Liverpool Banter Archive June 18 2011
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18 Jun 2011 23:43:08
Haha I just sold Agger, Cole, Jova, Poulsen, Ngog on FIFA and replaced them with Zapata, Hazard, Mata, Adam, Cavani. Additional transfers were Wickham, Downing, Enrique, Barrios, Doni.
Top of the league already :)
18 Jun 2011 23:35:39
18 Jun 2011 17:32:29
Good afternoon readers and ed's
Quiet on the transfer front, seems to be the same names every day. We apparently have monitored Iago's situation at Juventus. Its thought Chelsea and Tottenham are also interested in the Midfielder. I hate to say it but i think you ed's got it right about babacar being a no no. My source got somewhat carried away! Anyways what are your thoughts on Iago eds? Have you heard anything about the possibility of enquiring on the player?
Adzii {Ed009's Note - Iago moved to Villareal last year.}
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he moved on a loan deal not on a permanent transfer {Ed001's Note - ah ok cheers for that, never checked that closely to notice it was just a loan.}
18 Jun 2011 23:25:19
Ok, so we need Zapata for CD then a left back for the defence and that should be it! Enrique or Clichy would do nicely, won't set the world on fire but they know the premier league and are consistent in it! Midfield wise, i think we are packed in the middle now with Henderson and the emergence of Spearing so we need to focus on wingers. I think N'Zogbia would be a class player to bring in, Mata would be fantastic but we need to keep away from young or downing, neither are good enough for us! Jeffren would look good on the right with his pace. Up front we should take a gamble on Wickham. He is young with bags of potential and if he doesn't make it then Carroll and Suarez can pick up the pieces easily.
Looks like it will be a good season ahead, not sure about leagues and cups but we are going in the right direction for the first time in about 6 years!
18 Jun 2011 23:18:06
Reports in Spain saying Liverpool have had a bid for Real Madrid winger Pedro Leon. Any truth in this and is he any good?
The Poacher
18 Jun 2011 23:14:20
just a thought but the lad ki from celtic is asian our pre season tour is somewhere like maylaysa or somewhere like that.
so i am 99.99% sure we will be signing an asian player for the sales in t shirts and kits.
i am sure we will sign him or chu young park (monaco) for around 6 mill
or the bolton winger chung young lee for around the same price.
the mancs make tuns of money with park so well do the same
hope well just get honda "/
18 Jun 2011 23:08:10
We should have a look at young foreign players such as Varane, Usami, Honda and sao paulo Lucas what do you think eds? {Ed001's Note - I think I am happy to trust to Kenny to find the players myself.}
18 Jun 2011 23:02:48
In response to an early text regarding Bojan Krkic, good shout mate, couldn't believe it myself. He ticks all boxes in regards to the criteria we are looking for and is a more than decent player. Well worth a punt and I'm sure he would flourish and grow at the club. Also a steal at the price!!! Anyone else agree? Eds?
PaddyB
YNWA {Ed001's Note - my worry with him is that he seemed to stall and stop making progress. He needs regular first team football, I doubt he would be any more than a back up for Suarez for us.}
18 Jun 2011 22:41:10
I can see Downing signing, Which wouldn't be my first choice or second or third for that matter. However, I'd trust KD and DC's judgement and can sort of see the logic behind the signing. He has a very good cross, which could provide carroll with some quality service.
However, I would much prefer A.Johnson because I rate him so highly. Why he doesn't play a bigger part in the city squad really does leave me dumb-founded. For me he's the most talented english winger around. The chances of a deal are much slimmer than with downing and this is why I expect to see downing.
I also think that there will be a space for mata to come in regardless of either of the previous signing. Especially knowing we have missed out on marveaux, we are crying out for at least 2 quality widemen. I just have a gut feeling that Mata is our biggie this summer. Do you think this could be the situation regarding these 3 players ed?
Thanks
JamieLFC {Ed001's Note - certainly seems to be close at least. Nobody really expects City to sell to us or I would expect a much bigger push for Johnson.}
18 Jun 2011 23:12:32
Whats the chances of "Zico" coming i thinks he a really good player and one for future would be good to snap him up and also what is "Rudi Voller" like does anyone know? because if he was really good big clubs would be chasing him right ed?
YNWA! (Adam)
P.s. Cheers for the T.A.R.T Joe45 ;) Much appreciated. {Ed001's Note - apparently that's how it works, a player is only good if everyone wants him.}
18 Jun 2011 23:00:52
Does anyone know if Tom Ince signed a new contract? I know his was up & his dad told him not to sign a new one, but it hasn't been announced that he was released?
18 Jun 2011 22:57:44
ahhh its only june 18th...time is dragging almost two months to go! all this speculation and accusations on here towards certain posters doesnt help but i suppose everyone is just like me, eager to get our new players in and get cracking with the new campaign so i can understand the frustrations of all, i dont mean to remind or depress everyone but wtf are we gonna do til aug 13/14? its getting to me bigtime and the suspense is driving me crazy! is this normal guys?..JG..
18 Jun 2011 22:50:10
Hi, only recently found this site and i have to its the business.Only problem is it is highly addictive i cant get away from i love it.Keep up the good work eds.(RD.RED)
18 Jun 2011 22:39:05
eds, is that valencia-game really happening? i can't find it on the fixtures-list. is it just a rumour or has it been properly announced? thanks. {Ed001's Note - August 6th according to Valencia.}
18 Jun 2011 22:50:51
Suarez Carroll Eto'o
Mata Gerrard
CL winners 2012
18 Jun 2011 22:47:23
Just heard KK has built a flux capacitor and will be going back to the early 60's to sign Pele.
Thats a long way back, going to need a lot of rubbish to fuel it for that amount of time travel...maybe that rubbish tip over by stanley park has enough?
Davey Liver
18 Jun 2011 22:38:33
Blair I hope hodgson does come back then. CASTER TROY
18 Jun 2011 22:38:29
I've seen 'boring' as word used to criticise our potential signings. Strange criticism, but I assume you want us to go out and sign exotic overseas players. Fine, I hope we do get some overseas quality in myself - Mata would be great. But a problem that never seems to be discussed is one that is especially problamatic for northern clubs - location; the north is a real culture shock to your typical, spanish, argentinian, brazilian etc and most don't settle and if they do it's only for a few years before they want to go somewhere else. Somewhere warm or London. It's hard to build with that uncertainty.
I'm from the north and live in and love the north, but your typical footballer, especially an overseas one, isn't going to appreciate the same things that we do or even have the chance to experience them because they're in a bubble. Tevez is typical in his opinions of the north. I'm sure Kenny Dalglish knows this and it explains the transfer policy. What's the point in signing loads of exotic overseas players if they're going to leave you high and dry? And remember he played with some of the most skillfull players ever seen in this league - they just happened to be Scots, Irish, Scouse, Geordie whatever, and knows that he can get our targets and current squad playing the type of football we all want for our team. You see, he's done it before - with not a spaniard, italian, brazilian, argentinian in sight, just 'boring' old brits.
Po
18 Jun 2011 22:16:19
Eds,
Re: Cristian Zapata, I've seen him play a few times as I spent a lot of time watching Udinese because of Sanchez, and I became an admirer of him.
With targets such as Downing(26), Adam(25), Gago(25), Marveaux(25, missed) and Zapata(24), all approaching their prime, do you think Liverpool are adressing areas with immediate talent, so as not to potentially hinder to introduction of youngsters. I cannot think of a phenominal right winger in our accademy, which could explain the youthful purchase of Henderson. Downing would be replaced by Sterling, Adam by Shelvey, Gago by Coady, and Zapata by Wisdom/Wilson. It is a good tactic Imo. As it would mean that in 4 years when the youngsters are ready, these players will still have re-sale value, or be good squad players.
Back to Zapata though, along with Dejan Lovren of Lyon, he is one of my favourite defenders around. Do you rate him at all?
YNWA! (Adam) {Ed001's Note - I have not seen Zapata much at all, sorry.}
18 Jun 2011 22:31:21
I believe Scott Loach would be a great back-up keeper, but he may not join as he would want regular first team football but im sure the draw of Liverpools reputation and he Could get the chance to be future liverpool and possibly England keeper.could get him to join. If the rumours are true about doni not joining are true who would u have.??
18 Jun 2011 22:28:04
18 Jun 2011 20:52:41
Liverpool are now playing a home friendly against Valencia on August 6th.I wonder if this is part of a transfer. I remember Torres coming and a friendly was part of the deal.mmmmm
Jiminy Cricket
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I read somewhere today, might been on here, can't remember now, but, man city had a friendly with Valencia when silva signed..... Can anyone remember if this happened?
Sean
18 Jun 2011 22:17:03
Kenny seems to be struggling to get any signings or are the media blowing it out of proportion? Henderson is a great signing, Adam saga is dragging on so long its boring, That Blackpool Chairman seems to want to sell him to anyone except us...I hope it doesn't affect the other players that we can't make any signings
Are we seen as a desperate club for signings who will pay over the odds for anyone we are interested in?
SaggartBhoy
18 Jun 2011 22:16:45
Ryan babel as player manager ah ha ha ha ha!! Your having a laugh! Marcus babbel maybe but not ryan, almost as bizarre as aguero signing! At least the eds let some people with a sense of humour through
18 Jun 2011 22:10:26
Hey eds,
Cmon what's going on??
I thought you were gonna keep us updated with Charlie Adam?
How did his round of golf with the new clubs go?
And did he have egg or pineapple with his gammon and chips at the 19th hole?
Cmon eds, I'm on f***ING tenterhooks here..
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - I know, sorry, I didn't even let you know which horses he was betting on at Haydock or anything. I am hanging my head in shame as I type.}
18 Jun 2011 22:05:58
Now that Roma have bid for Clichy and Arsenal are now in the chase for Enrique, are we still gonna sign a left back.It seems like we've lost our targets.Any idea if them 2 two are still a target or are we looking outside the prem.We defo need one.Vargas would be my choice. Jonny Boy
18 Jun 2011 22:05:19
hi edds
do you think any think willl happen tonight. Just been looking around on the internet and a lot of sites say adam is going to be ours in 48 hours but don't no my self and that friendly with valencia is in the deal with mata thats just what it says but how likely is that tho we get him then they play against him but most sites i go on say the same ssn, goal, and lots more what you think
you edds are great by the way you do us LFC FANS the world of good
lee t
18 Jun 2011 22:04:07
Just a thought Ed,
If Dalglish is 'King' and Fowler is 'God' does that mean that fowler is though of in a higher regard by liverpool fans, surely, Dalglish should be re-named, all mighty ruler of the universe, if Folwer is God?
(Not bringing folwer down)
18 Jun 2011 21:59:46
Just heard KK has built a flux capacitor and will be going back to the early 60's to sign Pele.
18 Jun 2011 21:57:37
Hi eds just like to make a point about marveaux signing for newcastle instead of us, I'm delighted by this he showed a complete lack of ambition and himself to be a money grabber, I'd much rather see sterling, suso and shelvey givin alot of game time instead.seems to me that any player playing half decent under 21 is automatically worth 15-20 million and we should be giving our current youngsters a chance instead of chasing these overvalued and overrated players.any thoughts eds??
Growler
18 Jun 2011 21:56:24
anyone want to buy a couple of t.vs? no good to me anymore, all my spare time is took up with this site, wonder if the doctor can give me something to help my addiction, lol. misses going mental about me on here, every ten minutes jumping back and forth from banter to rumours, cool though, well done all.
liverpauler
18 Jun 2011 21:55:36
just watchin xabi interview again on lfc tv, he not in it for money n he love lfc, mon kenny , class act !!!!
18 Jun 2011 21:49:14
Ryan Babel being lined up for return as player manager. King movin upstairs. WATCH THIS SPACE.
Mervin K
That is the funniest thing i've ever heard!!!
18 Jun 2011 21:46:35
Ryan Babel being lined up for return as player manager. King movin upstairs. WATCH THIS SPACE.
Mervin K
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Hope this is true Merv, i heard Hodgson was coming back. WATCH ME HANG MYSELF.
Blair Mayne YNWA
18 Jun 2011 21:43:54
Ed what's this pedro Leon business do you rate him? it's refreshing to hear were not just after overhyped British player s I ve a feeling there's going to be a few surprises coming up! Just hope were not dissapointed come September like we usually are
YNWA
The freshmaker {Ed009's Note - I don't rate the player much at all, personally. Then again he has hardly played for Madrid.}
18 Jun 2011 21:41:27
Ed anything on Adam Johnson mate?
Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed009's Note - I'm afraid nothing has changed since last week, when it came to light that a bid had far more chance of being accepted than we could have known. I still believe there is only a chance of him leaving if they buy a replacement though, which they inevitably will. It will then be up to liverpool to make a significant offer, which I hope they will.}
18 Jun 2011 21:34:02
My Top ten most underrated players since 2006:
10. Arbeloa
9. Riise
8. Crouch
7. Finnan
6. Lucas
5. Pennant
4. Alonso
3. Riera
2. Kuyt
1. Benayoun
None of these players have constantly gotten the respect they deserve, and we didn't realise how important some of them were until after they'd gone.
Top 10 Flops since 2006:
10. Bellamy
9. Dossena
8. Aurelio
7. Cisse
6. Babel
5. Jovanovic
4. Konchesky
3. Cole
2. Voronin
1. Aquilani
Either failed to live up to expectations or Cost, or both! Some just suffered injuries constantly...
YNWA! (Adam)
18 Jun 2011 21:30:39
Believable if you prefer Johnson
Unbelievable if you prefer Downing
18 Jun 2011 21:29:02
I just had to say that I think Jesus Fernandez SUSO is ready to play 1st team football next season. If players like Jack Wilshire are playing I can't see why Suso can't be. Let it be known to the world how good Suso really, he's an excellent player, one of those gifted players that come round every 10 years or so, like Lionel Messi, but, he is not like Messi, he is his own unique player that brings something very different to Liverpool or to football for that matter. I for one will be getting his name on the back of my shirt just so people know. I think he will play a massive part in the future glory days that seem to be coming.
I would just like to ask one of the editors if they rate him at all? What position do you think he will be best suited and who signed him please? Thanks for the site too!
Daniel Hanwell {Ed009's Note - I rate the player very highly, he will be a real star, its clear to everybody. I believe he was initially signed by Benitez. The academy is the reason that man will always have my respect, if nothing else.}
18 Jun 2011 21:25:01
Sylvain Marveux, Clichy, and now Jose Enrique....we're dodging bullets left right and center right now.
18 Jun 2011 21:23:06
Man City faced Valencia straight after they got Silva last year on the exact same date that were playing them.thiscould mean we got mata i hope.
18 Jun 2011 21:15:26
18 Jun 2011 20:31:51
Well, well, well once again us Liverpool fans have been let down by another promising Yanks again.
Their Policy is young and useless.
DC has not got a clue, why do you think Arsenal got rid, and now we have the idiot.
KK maybe good but i think the last 10 games were a fluke.
we have no chance winning the premier league and getting 4th.
NJE
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Clearly not a true lfc supporter... or not one at all
18 Jun 2011 21:15:14
IM begining to think its K.K who is throwing us all for a loop reguarding transfers, so far knowone sighned that as been touted by any I.T.K's or even anyone guessing lol, just the one KK new, henderson, maybe guys we should open another beer and wait for the king to pick his court.
Martin
18 Jun 2011 21:10:45
Can i just make a suggestion;
KK and DC have both said we will sign the top young talent from around the world, or if that fails proven premier league talent. Seen as most proven premier league talent is tied to contracts or chained up by a greedy chairman *cough* Oysten *cough*, and all the top young talent is either at:
a) The South American Cup
b) The U20 World Cup
c) The U21 Euros
d) The U18 World cup
Is it really a surprise that we're currently so quiet in the transfer market? Just food for thought. When all these tournaments are over, we may well see a barrage of signings at the gates of Melwood!
YNWA! (Adam)
P.S. Couldn't stay away.You swayed me Kev ;)
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Ah i'm delighted mate!
There was no need to get so worried or whatever about the misunderstanding yesterday - look some people have certain levels of tolerance (if that's the correct word in this case) i guess & you were just unlucky that those with low levels were online last night / yesterday.
Fair play to ya for coming back lad - it's as much your site as it is anyone elses (maybe Ed001 might disagree on that though lol?!).
We are all one big happy (sometimes moaning lol) family at LFC Adam regardless of your background - that's what makes our club special.
Welcome back & keep up the good posts mate!
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
18 Jun 2011 21:09:21
Re: "...Marveaux. I understand we pulled out at the last minutes for whatever reason. However, if we did follow through, he would have signed on a free and it would have been announced on 1st July as that's when the international window opens. I'm curious as to how the barcodes have announced the deal prior to 1st July and that they've paid a fee for a free agent..."
Dunno on the terms of the deal but I think you'll find we had Thursday pm/Friday am pencilled in for the Marveaux announcement
18 Jun 2011 21:01:55
The weekend is slow for rumors!! I honestly believe that Adam will sign, but the move will continue to be a protracted one.
Bojan is good, but does he have the strength to cut it in the EPL?
Ed, do you believe that a LB, Winger and ST is all we actually need? {Ed002's Note - I think perhaps a CB as well. Perhaps another winger also.}
18 Jun 2011 18:56:05
My Top Three LFC Premiership Unsung Hero's:
3. Danny Murphy
2. Stephan Henchoz
1. Didi Hamann
18 Jun 2011 20:44:34
i posted about ki months ago, my mate knows people in celtic and he told me we were looking at ki and izzaguirre, it seems interest in izzaguirre has cooled but ki was always an option, although it seems adam was first on kenny's list.
db9
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What?
There are "people in Celtic"?
Oh my goooddd!!!
Does anyone know about this?
Have you told anyone?
It's like the miners in Chile all over again!
Better not sign off my name in case i get ridiculed :)
Ed, don't spill the beans :)
18 Jun 2011 20:40:09
Theo Walcott ..? Whats the bets lads?
18 Jun 2011 20:37:28
It's ridiculous the way people try to disprove Macca's info - they forget footballer's are people who can change their minds and alter decisions for any number of personal and professioanl reasons. They're not horses or virtual gaming weapons that are exchanged at the deciision of the buyer and seller. That doesn't make em better or worse and I'm not going into one of those 'give footballers a break' discussions here, but Macca certainly deserves one - the major reasons I visit this site is a for general consensus rumours and opinions abt the football club I love, in order to form a reaosnable view abt potential developments , and b) coz of people like Macca providing respectful informed info.
...even Kenny can't give us 100% defo info on players signing because he is not Professor X from the X-Men (actually he's better than that!)
Get excited everyone, LFC are entering into a successful era.
JA
18 Jun 2011 20:32:19
Adzii {Ed009's Note - Iago moved to Villareal last year.}
Iago only moved on loan to Villareal. However he had broken into their senior team after playing much of the season with Villareal B. He has a relatively cheap buy out clause in his contract at Juve. But he has NOT signed permanently for Villareal YET. DC will try to persuade the youngster to move to Anfield, but after his 1st season back in spain since leaving Barca B he could be quite hard to persuade. We are interested though.
K3
18 Jun 2011 20:31:51
Well, well, well once again us Liverpool fans have been let down by another promising Yanks again.
Their Policy is young and useless.
DC has not got a clue, why do you think Arsenal got rid, and now we have the idiot.
KK maybe good but i think the last 10 games were a fluke.
we have no chance winning the premier league and getting 4th.
NJE
18 Jun 2011 20:30:36
Liverpool will host Spanish side Valencia for a pre-season friendly on August 6th.
Will winger Juan Mata, appear in the game for Liverpool or Valencia? Is this late inclusion part of the transfer deal?
18 Jun 2011 20:21:25
18 Jun 2011 17:46:35
liverpool have arranged a freindly with valencia on august 6th. (mata's first game for liverpool/last game for valencia)
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Wonder what Liverpool and Valencia where discussing when they decided to arrange a pre season friedly between the 2 clubs...Mata perhaps.........
18 Jun 2011 20:15:51
Id sack the idea of adam coming to liverpool and just put an £18million offer in JAVI MARTINEZ then persue DAVIDE SANTON, JUAN MATA and that CRISTIAN ZAPATA!!
I would also put a cheeky bid in for LUCAS RODRIGUEZ and ERIK LAMELA
If this happens we will make it 19 league trophies and put us on parr with manure.
18 Jun 2011 20:15:25
Can i just make a suggestion;
KK and DC have both said we will sign the top young talent from around the world, or if that fails proven premier league talent. Seen as most proven premier league talent is tied to contracts or chained up by a greedy chairman *cough* Oysten *cough*, and all the top young talent is either at:
a) The South American Cup
b) The U20 World Cup
c) The U21 Euros
d) The U18 World cup
Is it really a surprise that we're currently so quiet in the transfer market? Just food for thought. When all these tournaments are over, we may well see a barrage of signings at the gates of Melwood!
YNWA! (Adam)
P.S. Couldn't stay away.You swayed me Kev ;)
18 Jun 2011 20:14:11
The only midfielders we should be looking at now are
J. Mata Valencia.
A. Johnson City.
K. Honda CSKA.
S. Cazorla Villereal.
A. Turan Gala.
E. Banega Valencia.
Every single one of the above are improvements on the current squad and are also viable targets.
We have Gerrard, Henderson and Cole who are all English (Cole will be an impact player). So we have enough English players in midfield.
We also have Sterling, Shelvey, Coady who are also English, plus if we got Johnson that would be another. We also have Glen Johnson who can operate there too.
Come on reds enough of these overpriced targets like Downing and Young and let's buy some technical quality from overseas.
18 Jun 2011 20:09:22
Aguero ; I want leave from Atletico Madrid , i like transfers to Liverpool
18 Jun 2011 20:07:13
Not a rumour, so much as a 'does anybody know...' we were linked (through the gossip column on the lfc.tv website) to be interested in the south Korean captain, Park Chu Young, he has given many interviews stating that he would love to play at Anfield and believes KK is building a squad that will challenge for honours. Does anybody (Ed's included) have any news as to why he is not being mentioned? if you watch him you can see where he would fit in, and he is from the Suarez / Turan mould. He fits the FSG model, and also the KK sort of player. Fast, agile, wirey and strong.
Please post Ed's as I woud really like to know if anybody has any info...
18 Jun 2011 20:02:56
Ed it seems to me that if you are a young english player then transfer fees are no object to LFC hence Carroll and Hendo, but if you are an even better talent like bojan, mata and zapata, then money will become very tight at LFC. Does anyone agree with me and will they also agree that we may well miss out on a few league winners this season... again!
18 Jun 2011 19:54:17
Valencia to visit Anfield for a pre-season friendly. Could this be part of something to do with Mata?
Source : thisisanfield.com
18 Jun 2011 19:52:58
good evening guys posted months ago liverpool were put off by marvaeux's fitness record not surprised he failed his medical, newcastle done what we did with the aquilani deal be warned lol.seriously aint heard anything much about downing rumours even though they seem to be gathering pace no doubt by his agent, heard the adam deal to be completed shortly depending on the meireles situation raul all day long for me jmo.the only other rumour's round this neck of the woods that seem genuine are zapata and wickham which are again down to agents not the players what do you think ed's? great site by the way gonna cost me my job one day lol.
melwood mole
18 Jun 2011 19:47:39
Hi Ed's,
Please post in rumors,
How is it that Newcastle are able to sign all these Players when the international window doesn't open until 1st July!
Also why is it that when there is a lot of talk on here about players that we are looking to sign everyone else it gets in there and signs them. Marveoux, Jones Young and now Gervinho. {Ed009's Note - they haven't officially signed them yet, the paper work can't go through until 1st July, but they can confirm that an agreement has been struck with the club and player. Players who are highly rated by us will always likely be highly rated by others too.}
18 Jun 2011 19:47:14
ed do you get paid or do you do this for fun {Ed009's Note - we do it because we're such a lovely bunch of guys and girls! And because we need something to do with our time of course...}
18 Jun 2011 19:44:07
Hope its not signs to come, i know its early and all, but players linked either turning us down or we are just not getting in there fast enough...comolli with low offers my guess.
18 Jun 2011 19:42:43
Ed, can you clear up what youn think the situation is with Charlie Adam?
Its really annoying me that we have not sorted this deal out. He is a top quality player who I believe wants to sign for us? am i right?
Is it the Blackpool chairman being a complete person waiting on manchester unite or aston villa with a bigger offer? {Ed009's Note - Oyston will accept an offer from Adam that he believes to be fair; what that means though is anybody's guess. He is even willing to force Adam to stay for the duration of his contract so he doesn't have to pay Rangers any money.}
18 Jun 2011 19:42:16
cant seem to find anything on a liverpool vs valencia friendly at all.... think some people are telling porkies unless you want to prove me wrong
18 Jun 2011 19:34:53
All this talk about buying the best british talent its a joke.Any world class british players are unavailable.While we are scouting mediocre talent city, chelsea and utd are trying to bring in world class players.This policy of buying british might have worked for kenny in the last century but we are in a different era now.Back then it was mostly british players v british players and handful of foreign players in the mix.Now in this era with the massive influx of world class players in the premier league you have to match the other teams in this department if we are going to compete.So i am afraid with this approach we will be as far away from the premier league title as ever.Buying mediocre british talent(adam, downing, dann, fleck)is simply not going to work.More players like saurez, reina, alonso that is the way to go.Sorry if this comment annoys people but its true.Ed, what is your opinion on this ? (RD, RED) {Ed009's Note - I believe the most important thing is to strike the right balance - typically 'flair' players such as Luis Suarez as well as some british, gritty players willing to fight for the shirt.}
18 Jun 2011 19:08:05
Liam Ridgewell, Ashley Young & Diego Forlan have all called off their weddings recently within a few days of getting married.
Wonder has Giggs anything to do with all this?
The Forlan story / rumour is an interesting one i must say.
Does Giggs go both ways i wonder? (On the pitch i mean of course lol).
Irish Kev.
18 Jun 2011 19:38:50
lets face it no one outside of the inner ring knows who we are going to sign lets just wait and see and stop all these wishlists ie 60mil for ozil higuian benzema you must admit it makes for good reading and lols
18 Jun 2011 19:23:17
Last week people slaughtered macca 4 saying only british players would be signed due to marveux. And now loads of foreign names keep getting mentioned on here. Seriously we will buy british. Mata wont come. Lets see on 31st august if macca is right but i bet he is.
18 Jun 2011 19:07:54
Some posters on here seem to have forgotten that dalglish took 'roys team' and turned our season around, sure the jan transfer window had a big part to play but he got two hatricks out of maxi and one out of kuyt against man u, it was exciting to watch! And most those players will stay, gerrard was as good as a no show most of last season, have patience! I wasn't old enough to have seen kenny the first time but I cannot wait for the first game of the season! Were back!
Lfcmatt
18 Jun 2011 18:58:00
these ki rumours from celtic better be false , the chap cant even get into the celtic starting 11, obv its not july 1 yet but hopefully there is some real quality coming in ,
irish kop
18 Jun 2011 18:55:48
Ed what does charlie adam nailed on mean please thanks very much well in liverpool for winning the masters tournament YNWA PATRIK BERGER {Ed001's Note - it means if Karl Oyston stops messing about he will join us.}
18 Jun 2011 18:54:20
18 Jun 2011 17:21:57
Adam will sign..
Macca
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I'm guessing fake Macca as this is not on his page
Square tomato {Ed001's Note - if it doesn't go on his page it is not verified as him, that is the whole point of it.}
18 Jun 2011 18:47:11
It's not ignorance or arrogance redman. I'm just old enough to remember the last time Kenny was in charge and if you are, then you'll no why, i'm asking for patience. Kenny will get it right on the pitch and off the pitch. And to read some of the posts on here slagging Kenny off, is a f*cking disgrace.Only 3 weeks into the transfer window and people are already getting depressed. That's why patience is the key mate, they should come back on September the 1st and voice their concerns, after the window shuts. But to judge now is not only premature, it's just stupid.Blair Mayne YNWAPs. IF you are spoiling for a fight then i'm your man mate. But be warned, i'm a black-belt at Nintendo.
i agree with fans being patient its the comments that came across t me any way that seemed arrogant and looked as tho u was putting ur self on a hire tear than some fans. n ps it would only be a spoiled fight rather than me spoiling for a fight MATE ;) redmanjft96
18 Jun 2011 18:11:43
Bojan looks Roma bound this true any eds heard? {Ed001's Note - sorry no, I haven't heard of any move being done for him.}
18 Jun 2011 18:07:09
18 Jun 2011 09:21:19
Sylvain Maerveaux has signed for Newcastle, thank god to be honest, he said there was a contractual disagreement. Rumours were we offered 40K and he wanted 60K. Typical greedy player looking for a payday......average player at best......
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Over the past 15 years or so too many times Liverpool have been stung with purchases of supposedly 'new' Zidanes, 'new' Deschampes etc (La Tallec, Pongolle and Cheyrou etc.) If complications have been shown at his medical we should support Comolli and Dalglish.
18 Jun 2011 18:06:29
Hearing Henderson will be dropped from the starting XI on Sunday by Pearce; I really hope he does, Hendo needs a rest. He played almost 40 games this season.
18 Jun 2011 18:05:21
Wish i could just wake up on the first day of the season. cba with all these random rumours
18 Jun 2011 17:49:05
Really hope we sign mata! Probably the signing I want most this transfer window {Ed009's Note - the very same as me.}
18 Jun 2011 17:48:57
to the person who said adam will sign by thursday "the latest"...anybody can say that as it gives u a 5 day flexibility line so less of them posts..its like me saying we will sign a winger in the near future...
and ed, i have heard people mentioning maccas page..whats that?? thanks james grove {Ed009's Note - its just a page collating Macca's rumours.}
18 Jun 2011 17:48:25
How will Canales sign for us after the euro under 21 tourney.He's in the Spain under 20 squad for the under 20 world cup.And do they not pay tax in Germany.Is that a defo that Barrios is on 45k a week after tax.How do you know.If its a double his wages it will be 90k a week re of what tax he has to pay, although i'd think he'd expect a 100k a week to leave Dortmund with our tax system not.Jonny Boy
18 Jun 2011 16:47:48
Afternoon eds can you confirm what date the squad got on there tour of Asia please .cheers psv {Ed009's Note - I tried looking it up for you but was unable to find specific dates, its in late July I believe. Sorry mate.}
18 Jun 2011 18:19:58
Ed I heard a whisper today that Liverpool are bid for Bastian Schweinsteiger have you heard anything? If I was to rate the chances I'd give it a 0 but just want to see what you think thanks.
GT {Ed001's Note - I would think it would be a wasted bid to be honest, I haven't heard of any bid being made either.}
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Thanks for the answer.
GT
18 Jun 2011 18:19:44
I think we need to sign Mata, looks to be an unreal player and will be a massive sign of our intent...what ya rekon?
18 Jun 2011 18:16:42
zapata would be a great signing, hope it comes off.can't sign off as kb thats my initails but dont want to pee off the real one.lol.
18 Jun 2011 18:11:31
Apparently Valencia are playing a friendly with us and Hamburg, maybe they're getting Elia and we're getting Mata?
Or just a massive coincidence?
18 Jun 2011 17:58:57
Thanks ed's as ever you never post my comments must be you guys doing the other comments eh? Any way top answers on the questions you get asked, he may sign, looks likely, unlikely and i thought kop talk was bad!!
Its in the same league! the made up one! {Ed009's Note - good one mate. Go have a pie with fat Dunk.}
18 Jun 2011 17:57:12
Here's how I see it. Adam wants to play for us. He does not want to go anywhere else. I want players who want to play for us. Charlie wouldn't be my first choice but as a LFC supporter I will support any player who wants to play for us and whom KK thinks will fit in with us. A creative type is needed and with Stevie and Charlie delivering balls to Carroll and Saurez we will be able to unhinge defenses from central positions. Throw a combo of Adam Johnson/ Downing/ Mata on the wings then we become a very attack minded team. Lucas's continued growth will be of utmost importance as a DMF and I think he is one of the best in the EPL at doing this.
Chi-Paul
18 Jun 2011 17:55:02
18 Jun 2011 17:21:57
Adam will sign..
Macca
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Does he have to?
18 Jun 2011 17:54:54
newcastle have signed marvaux. roma are now favourites to sign clichy. arsenal favourites to replace him with enrique. adam looking less likely day by day. talks about downing/johnson are dying down. dann is talking to stoke about a move. i am happy that KK is back but either he or comolli are moving too slow and we are losing potential players because of it. i know they like to make sure the player they want is suitable but you got to approach them before they decide to move somewhere else.
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look at the names again. nearly all players nobody in this forum wanted. it's all quiet, a good sign. no binge buying in the epl, but probably lots of deals taking place in the background. cheer up mate!
18 Jun 2011 17:30:32
18 Jun 2011 17:07:49
Expect Zapata, Downing, N'Zogbia, Adam, Whickham and a top class left back to come in. Dialogue has been opened with Bolton about Cahill but I suspect he will go to Arsenal, with Zapata being our most likely option. I would consider bringing Paul Walsh back up front too, he's banging them in against Everton on The Masters......
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I thought how well Berger played, both him and Walsh looked as good as they used to, saying that so did Kvarme (yes he was still rubbish)
Anyway, with Kenny being in Spain last week I would be very surprised if he was not there for Mata, probably talking to his dad. I have total faith in him joining us as soon as the U21s finish. Last time I talked to my contact, who is close to the man himself, I was told that everything is looking good.
We can all talk about rumours but I would be surprised if we hear anything until the men in the know let us know. Why would we risk someone else diving in so early in the transfer window.
For the guys that are saying we have not signed enough people so far, do you think we can sign loads of people at once, can DC and Kenny be in Spain, France, Romania, England, Scotland, Ireland all at the same time.
18 Jun 2011 17:28:02
The younger, impatient next generation fan mate. Who don't seem to have much trust, in what Kenny will do. All they have to do is show some patience and as Sir Martin Broughton would say "Keep the Faith"Blair Mayne YNWA blair u are a hipecrit what happened when roy was in charge did u 'keep the faith' then and be patient then err no so do 1 dont make out that ur some sort of elite fan u full of it. because keepin the faith is somethink u know about when i suits u. regardless if roy was the right man. but am sure ur guna tell me this was different. redmanjft96 please post ed am not being aggressive just dont like it when people day in and out kiss other peoples arse and is always up the eds arses {Ed009's Note - I understand your point but it seems as though you are spoiling for a fight.} no not spoiling for a fight just dont like it when people jump on the band waggon t make out there real fans because they may have been on this earth longer than some fans it come across as ignorance and arrogance while u contridict ur self. redmanjft96
18 Jun 2011 17:22:13
Poor boy, how on earth will he survive on only 70k a week. {Ed002's Note - He will of course have a significant pay off from Liverpool to keep him going for a while.}
He'll only to be able to buy A COUPLE of ferraris a week, A COUPLE...how could he live like that?
18 Jun 2011 17:20:28
Liverppol looking to sign John Fleck of Glasgow Rangers. KK is willing to offer Danny Wilson on loan as part of the deal.
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sincerely hope not!!
the guys an arrogant t*t... he vistied the pharmacy my girlfriend works in, a year or so ago, to pick up a prescription for a family member. on bein asked to confirm the address (pretty standard question) he started hurling abuse at her... so he better not sign for LFC!!! egocentric morons need not apply :)
18 Jun 2011 17:19:33
LFC will sign 1 top player in the region 20-25m. and it will be for left wing position. Top in the list is Juan Mata and Juan Vargas.
Another winger other than mata/vargas will be sign for RW. downing.nzogbia.adam johnson all under consideration. IF downing is confirmed signing then there will be no more nzogbia or adam jhnson...
pokweLFC
18 Jun 2011 17:19:28
jose enriquie 9 mill
possibly the best LB in the prem after ashley cole
18 Jun 2011 17:18:03
Liverpool are looking to bring Paul Walsh and Patrik Berger out of retirement...
Or maybe I've just got "Masters Fever" :-D
Anyone watching it? We just smashed Everton 5-1 and Walshy got 4.
Matt S - YNWA
18 Jun 2011 17:04:33
In the old days Liverpool did all their talking behind closed doors, we as fans only found out when players were signed , lets just believe in Kenny and the team, to do right by the club
18 Jun 2011 17:03:52
The younger, impatient next generation fan mate. Who don't seem to have much trust, in what Kenny will do. All they have to do is show some patience and as Sir Martin Broughton would say "Keep the Faith"Blair Mayne YNWA
blair u are a hipecrit what happened when roy was in charge did u 'keep the faith' then and be patient then err no so do 1 dont make out that ur some sort of elite fan u full of it. because keepin the faith is somethink u know about when i suits u. regardless if roy was the right man. but am sure ur guna tell me this was different. redmanjft96 please post ed am not being aggressive just dont like it when people day in and out kiss other peoples arse and is always up the eds arses {Ed009's Note - I understand your point but it seems as though you are spoiling for a fight.}
18 Jun 2011 17:01:33
Ed, don't you think trying to get steven defour would be amazing instead of any other cm's....and by the way i think hendersons going to be a great buy.... {Ed009's Note - any chance of Defour seems to have died after he signed a new contract with Liege. I agree with you on Henderson.}
18 Jun 2011 17:00:07
Why is anyone bothered about sylvain marveaux joining another club when we have the funds to buy a better left winger who ain't got injury problems. Im over the moon we didn't sign him. It is clear that Juan Mata's dad has hinted that Mata will indeed sign for a club with good heritage and history and not a club that just splashes the cash, so I can assure you Juan Mata will be a Liverpool player in July. Cristiano Zapata will be signing also, much better player then Phil Jones and Dann put together and from an Italian League that's basically all about defensive tactics, so he's coming. I think its fair to say that them 2 players including Henderson is very good business at the beggining of the transfer window, Be patient, there will definitely be a new left wing back, someone with good quality coming in, a left winger, central midfielder, striker and most possibly a right winger too. Don't forget the players we already have too. What Im more concerned about is getting rid of players that I know are not good enough and are sucking the wage bill dry. Once their gone, sometime in July you will see at least 6 quality new signings by Kenny and Damien. There's plenty of fish in the sea. In the mean time read up Damien's history of transfers and im sure you will feel much more patient and optimistic. Now sit back, chillax and enjoy the summer, we have a good fixtures list this season, it could be our time to shine.
Daniel Hanwell
18 Jun 2011 16:59:53
hi ed anymore news on Barrios deal? and what would u rate him out of 10? {Ed009's Note - on ability? 8. On likelihood of a signing? 4 probably. I still don't think its likely.}
18 Jun 2011 16:59:49
Today reading this site has been funny. Everybody is commenting about missing out on signings but lets be honest there hasn't been a great deal of movement in the transfer market anyhow. Marveaux has even admitted himself that there was a dispute with the contract. If that is the case it would have been around length and money, I for one am glad we haven't signed him. He has not played for the best part of a season and would end up bench warming. I am not fussed about who we sign as long as they want to play for Liverpool Football Club. Lets be honest the squad we currently have beat Chelsea, Utd and City last season under KK's guidance. We have signed a few players on free's over the last few season's with none of them making a huge impact. Instead of whining lets get behind the team working on the additions to the squad and wait to see what they come up with. LFC didn't used to conduct business in public and for the last few years they have. Since the arrival of John Henry & Co the traditional way has returned to Anfield and everything is be kept private. They surprised us all in January and I am sure they will do it again. I for one didn't see us being top of the list to sign Jordan Henderson but we got him. YNWA - LFCSOUTH
18 Jun 2011 16:57:23
I am slightly annoyed by kennys seeming transfer plan. Young and english and boring!! The english players are notnthe best and we need the best i will be seriously disappointed if we sign the likes of downing, adam etc. These are not good enough and shouldnt even be condidred. We have the money so we should spend the money. Not waste it as in the cases above.
Unfortunately i can see the likes of dowming and adam coming as well as clichy etc.
If these happen ypthen i can see us being in the same position as last season, even with kk and dc
Rant over.
18 Jun 2011 16:56:15
so many link's to player's coming in and yet were being beaten by lesser team's for their signature get's you dawn a bit {Ed009's Note - we only lost out on Marveuax due to our unwillingness to cave in to his wage demands. Do not worry about it}
18 Jun 2011 16:55:41
Is a spell check feature possible? 50% of the user posts are unintelligible...maybe it's shorthand and i'm not savvy...
27-USA {Ed009's Note - most web browsers have one of those anyway! I don't feel people should be put off from posting for fear of ridicule though.}
18 Jun 2011 17:10:53
Hi Ed, just switched on sky and seen Marveux signing for Newcaslte, why what when?!? please explain, very dissapointed red {Ed001's Note - he had a medical, the results suggested that the op he had to cure his long standing groin problem wasn't entirely successful and that he still has a weakness there. So we pulled the contract offer on the table and made a different offer, this had a lower basic wage but higher appearance bonuses. He rejected it and Newcastle jumped in with an offer that matched his wage demands.}
18 Jun 2011 17:10:15
Hey ....
Luka modric had 6 assists last season and Gareth Bale had 1 assist last season .....
...... Who was setting up the Tottenham Hotspur goals then ?
1977
18 Jun 2011 17:07:37
Ed do you know what's happening with Turan?
He was apparently nailed on for Valencia or Athletico but haven't heard he's signed for either, is the deal dead for him?
If so I don't understand why (if Kenny is a fan) we haven't shown any interest.
The news Marvueax opted for Newcastle isn't that bad. He had injury/fitness issues so well done to the club for not caving to his wage demands.
There is still a number of wingers out there I'd take over Marvueax which would be the below.
A. Turan Gala.
A. Johnson City.
S. Cazorla Villereal.
J. Mata Valencia.
K. Honda CSKA.
I believe the above are all viable options for the reds. {Ed001's Note - I don't know what is happening with Turan, he has been talking to Atletico for a long time. The length of time the talks have been ongoing suggests one party is dragging them out a bit though. Likeliest thing is that Atletico have to sell to buy.}
18 Jun 2011 16:44:54
Why did Dzsudzs k go to such a sh*t team... was it to do with money? {Ed009's Note - the Russian teams presented him with a very attractive package. So no, it wasn't to do with money at all ;).}
18 Jun 2011 16:42:15
no inside info, probably a stupid call but i could see our surprise signing being... giuseppe rossi. barcelona will run out of cash before they get him. he's young, and best of all he qualifies as homegrown. not likely, probably would get a 0 out of 10 from the eds, but it would be a surprise splurge of cash i could see fsv signing off on {Ed009's Note - how dare you be so pessimistic, I'd give him at least 0.25!}
ye - any decent player gets mentioned, sanchez, aguero, rossi and the eds say no chance - 0 out of 10
stroll on!!!! {Ed009's Note - Thats rubbish, Aguero is a ten out of ten and Sanchez is a nine. If a question is asked we will give our honest view, regardless of sly digs.}
18 Jun 2011 16:37:42
Is anyone else releived that toon swooped Marveaux?
I didn't rate him that highly, but was only looking at his statistics, never seen him play. Modric's stats don't look impressive either, but you can see his quality so maybe that's not a perfect measure.
I don't think the french hold up well in this league
18 Jun 2011 16:36:30
18 Jun 2011 13:46:35
according to marca pedro leon spanish u21 winger has turned down a double your money offer to join us and decided to stay at real madrid, one other point why can't oyston be a gentleman like dave whelan and realise players want to better themselves and move to bigger clubs, just sell adam you annoying git, just a quick thought eds, i thought a latvian guy owned blackpool so surely it's down to him.
paul {Ed001's Note - Oyston is in charge, Belokon just puts up the money, the one hope is he puts pressure on Oyston to sell Adam so he can get some money back on the deal.}
Pedro Leon is bloody awful.!!! I have seen him several times live and on tv and he was really poor everytime. If we are offering deals o players like him we are in trouble.
Matt B
18 Jun 2011 16:32:27
Gago, Baines, A Johnson, Padolski, and a solid centre half and we are top 4 contenders
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finally nice to see someone else on the podolski bandwagon.
18 Jun 2011 16:31:37
While Gago has struggled for game time at Real Madrid, the 25-year-old has made 100 appearances for the Spanish giants over four years, making him an attractive signing in the Barclays Premier League.
Liverpool, however, look to have bowed out of the race for the star, with Kenny Dalglish concentrating on signing younger players with experience in English football.
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Have we heard this transfer policy mentioned on here before?
Cheers
Macca
18 Jun 2011 16:31:06
u know wat ed we dont need a holding midfeilder , its attack, attack all day long thats when were just rampant who disagrese, ed imnot on the ball , like hes good , like him s**t him but imfromliverpool and we r the best fans i the world and we know r stuff , we r going 2 win somthin this year , all 2 wembley boys second home
18 Jun 2011 16:30:19
I think you should put a list of confirmed in's and out's at the top of the page because i know that I like many others will be going on vacations and be away from the site and the list would be a very quick way to see what we missed. Thanks in advance if you do put this in. {Ed009's Note - There is in fact a "transfer news" page on the main site. I see your point though and it could perhaps be looked in to.}
18 Jun 2011 16:28:31
The younger, impatient next generation fan mate. Who don't seem to have much trust, in what Kenny will do. All they have to do is show some patience and as Sir Martin Broughton would say "Keep the Faith"Blair Mayne YNWA u the same impatient u shown over roy did u show any faith there u hipocrit. the way true lfc fans always back there managers till they go. so looks like u fit into the next generation of fans. or u just guna tell me that was totaly different. redmanjft96
18 Jun 2011 16:10:30
Was just reading down the page & came across a post from someone saying there is nearly civil war on here today.
Guys, as soon as a signing is made you all seem happy for about 2 days but then seem to find something new to moan about.
Why don't you just leave Kenny worry about signings & concentrate your energies on supporting not constantly criticising.
I have been a fan for nearly 25 years & have never come to a situation as bad as this where all the fans seem to do is moan over & over again that we haven't signed this guy or that guy!
Try doing your job & support, let Kenny do his job & manage.
Last time i looked those were our roles anyway.
We will sign good players before September 1st but we all need a little patience.
I want all the top players arriving too but we have to be realistic - this is not Football Manager on the PC.
So relax & enjoy the window instead of nit picking please.
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
18 Jun 2011 16:10:13
18 Jun 2011 15:06:29
Barrios is willing to ditch champions league football this year as long as Liverpool can double his current £45,000 a week contract.
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But with the UK's 50% tax that'd be what - nearly 120k to double his post tax earnings..
18 Jun 2011 16:03:06
hey ed's i have to be honest with you and i think i speak for most liverpool fans we are getting frustrated with no transfer action when i see other clubs like the scum (united) and chelsea trying to tie up deals for world class players , my question is do you reckon now that its seriously quiet on the transfer front that it could be the calm before a massive storm and that we could be signing like 3 or 4 players in a row ? thanks {Ed001's Note - I expect things to carry on as they are, we will continue to only sign players who want to play for us and not those who want to play for the money. There will be more signings to come, but I don't expect it to be a huge flurry of them, just a drip drip drip of signings through the window.}
18 Jun 2011 15:55:04
Hi Eds ,
Just looked through fixture lists for next season roll on 15/10/11 and 11/2/12 ! There's some great games ahead, bring it on !
Rebel_Red
18 Jun 2011 16:25:14
Any chance of Edinson Cavani joining us next season? Haven't heard much interest, but we're listed as 8/1 for him to join on skybet. Think he would be a great 3rd striker and link up well with Suarez. Thanks Eds, love this site. (post in rumours)
Cheers,
Jay Bird LFC {Ed009's Note - He only just joined Napoli, so I am almost certain he will not join. His strike partner Lavezzi, whilst also unlikely, would be a fantastic signing if it could be pulled off.}
18 Jun 2011 16:20:45
Ed do you think that the reason that Marveux went Newcastle is because we are looking at another winger?
Cheers
Omar1997 {Ed009's Note - I don't think its the direct reason; we would have signed him had he accepted our reformed contract offer, with more emphasis on appearance bonuses. I do however believe our unwillingness to budge suggests we have other deals in the pipeline.}
18 Jun 2011 16:20:02
Has Adam posted today eds, hope he has, always interesting to read.I think we should go all out for Vargas as left back, people say his defending is suspect but with what Steve Clarke has done with Glenn Johnson he could do the same with Vargas.Plus he can play out wide and attacking midfield and is one of the best crossers in the game.I'll be keeping my eye out on the Peru games as well as watching Zapata.Look forwards everyone, not back.I'm sure we'll have a squad going for the top 3 min after the window closes.Jonny Boy {Ed009's Note - don't think he has, but you needn't worry, we won't allow him to be driven out for one remark that was over reacted to. By the way, its refreshing today to hear your positivity.}
18 Jun 2011 16:13:05
ed im a proper scouser i hope i dont sound a nugget but im , this is a massive one 4 the reds, ed we have got to catch up 2day through revenu, man u if im rte 1.2 mil a game thats a big advantage , but u know wat i like about these owners , they know how 2 mke dough , 25 mil new balance kit sponser, everythin is just is lookin a top firm , them yanks know how 2 do business, ed if your a classy babe , can i take u out lolxx {Ed009's Note - where would you take a girl like me though? McDonalds doesn't quite get me going anymore...}
18 Jun 2011 15:45:58
Chelsea tv is free today on sky. Torres goal rush is on at 1600 - 1601. TJ.
18 Jun 2011 15:41:21
Joe Coles new club will get him on £20 grand a week less then his current contract at Liverpool, he is that desperate to leave.
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Poor boy, how on earth will he survive on only 70k a week. {Ed002's Note - He will of course have a significant pay off from Liverpool to keep him going for a while.}
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beans on toast for a while then!! you heard it here first ;)
18 Jun 2011 15:40:40
Ed009's Note - I'm sorry for the vague answers, but it depends on what you consider world class. I think Mata is a possibility if we can make an offer which betters the other interested clubs' in terms of fee and probably wages. I also think we could see a surprise foreign left back and a 'world class' striker too. But the latter suggestions are just based on my perception of things. I am sure our team will be stronger and more exciting next season than it was this.}
I believe we need to look at the Chelsea model. They were a strong team but not a championship team and then they hired Jose and he brought in Drogba, Essien, etc. So, world class would be players of Essien calibre. Using this benchmark, a lot of squad players are being linked with us.
18 Jun 2011 15:36:02
just been looking on the man city rumour site and alot of people r saying "Adam johnson to liverpool" and the latest one was 2day at 2:00 saying " Adam johnson is having talks with liverpool" Ed do u know anythink about this and whats your rating of this happening out of 10 thanks. {Ed001's Note - I don't have anything new to add, I don't believe any deal would go ahead until they got a replacement in. I am still not entirely convinced they will even consider dealing with us, though Mancini has much more sway there now and he would be open to selling him to us.}
18 Jun 2011 14:55:11
{Ed001's Note - on Adam, the lad himself thinks Oyston will just refuse to sell him for any money and he will be forced to see out his contract. Selling him would cost Oyston more than just letting him go on a free and that is all Oyston cares about. He is only interested in money. Ngog is on holiday.}
Ed, i may be missing something, but could you please explain why it is costing Oyston more to sell him than let him go for free this time next year.. {Ed001's Note - because the fans would cause hell if Blackpool didn't spend money on a replacement. Any replacement would cost, at the very least 3m of the 4.5m that would be left over for Blackpool from the sale if he was sold for 10m. No player costing 3m or more will accept wages of 4k a week, which is the amount Adam is on. A 3m+ player expects wages to match the price tag over the length of their contract. So everything gained would go back out again, leaving Oyston as the only person to come out of the deal without gaining anything. By just letting him rot in the reserves, Oyston still gains nothing, but nobody else gains anything either. A spoilt little greedy brat like Karl Oyston would rather everybody else lost out than everyone but him gained.}
18 Jun 2011 15:52:04
Similar to a few posts down, i am concerned about us not getting our targets. If our main targets are only to be from the premiership (as in what macca states) then if we are not careful we will lose out on an increasing number of them. Jones, young, and adam (i know oyston is at fault but still) are examples. Are we going to be left with Downing and Javis type players? And what of wickham? Does it mean that we are not really going for him either? I know its still early in the transfer window and KD/DC know what they are doing, however i worry. Any thoughts on this? K.Bennett
18 Jun 2011 15:47:37
Hi ed's iv been checking out this site for a while now, and i love it.
I always see a lot written about lucas moura, may i add another very talented youngster. By the name of sergio araujo from boca juniors, what a kid. Who needs aguero if you can get sergio araujo. he would certainly fit the fsg philosophy. And in a couple of years he would rival messi as the best player in the world.
Simon
18 Jun 2011 15:33:28
Joe Cole will be allowed to join Nottingham Forest on a season long loan. Liverpool do not want to lose Joe but they feel he needs more first team football and Delglish see's Forest as the ideal place for him to regain his fitness and touch. Liverpool will pay 50% of his wages. Nottingham Forest are said to be over the moon at this appointment and would like to thank Liverpool for allowing such a player to join up with Steve McClaren.
Bollocks, Is Joe Cole a rising youngster who need playing time! He will be with Liverpool or will be sold! I want him out though! He is useless for us, even if he finds his form he has 1 or 2 seasons left in him! LFC wasting crazy money on people like Cole! Not Kenny or FSG's fault, Purslow and Hodsons fault!
18 Jun 2011 15:30:39
top news eds gettin sold , dont ever talk s**t , ed 'a gonner lol {Ed009's Note - pardon?}
18 Jun 2011 15:30:33
Well done to Macca he never thought that we was going for Marveaux.... not got enough for us anyway.
Just found out that we have put a bid in for Bale, but I don't no about price, part ex etc.
He is over rated, but I think he will make a dramatic difference to our team.
Rookie
18 Jun 2011 15:10:30
ed hope u can post this, all am after is a way 2 say a propper thanks 2 the owners puttin the fire back in to the supporters that we havnt had 4 a long time , and we can do anythin , i hope we can do it all again , but all true football fans know its not going 2 come 2morrow , we r behind but i really think i feel good about this season , bring it on , to all proper reds
18 Jun 2011 15:09:23
To all that are slagging off the ed's and macca.....
Go away you silly little boys, if you do not like the site or what both the ed's and macca say then just dont come here. I for one love reading this site and love the work the ed's put in and intersting points which macca brings. These people have contacts/knowledge im guessing then 99% of people on here. I just hope that the slagging off and name calling does not prevent the ed's and macca posting cos i for one will miss the points addressed on here
18 Jun 2011 15:07:10
Hey ed, im not that worried that things are not going as fast as we hoped. I love the fact that we really dont know our targets ( not saying that you eds are not informed but nice to see things being done behind closed doors). however do you feel it could be late july and aug before we see more players coming in. I also feel that the biggest job this summer is getting rid of all the flops we have. Do you feel that is could be late in the transfer market that we see the likes of cole and them leaving {Ed002's Note - I am yet to be convinced that Cole will be leaving.}
18 Jun 2011 15:06:41
Why is everyone buzzing about Adam? He lost possession of the ball 68% of the time last season. His defensive work rate is poor. Ok it might be harder keeping the ball for Blackpool than us but the premier league is the premier league he would still be facing the same opposition. We have plenty of CM's (Gerrard, Lucas, Meireles, Spearing, Shelvey, Henderson now plays most of his football in CM.) Why not let Jay Spearing step up? Fergie has been bigging Adam up for ages increasing his valuation but why do you think he never bid for him and won't?!
Why don't we try and buy the likes of Downing/ Johnson/Wickham/Dann/Baines and being linked with Mata is great whether he'd come is a different story. We set the bar with Suarez, Henderson, why lower it with spending the money on Adam. He is talented but not Alonso talented which many people are comparing him to. And if he does come, i really hope Kenny creates him into the player we need, because he isn't at the moment.
18 Jun 2011 15:19:51
Just read that Liverpool and Man Utd have contacted Basel about Xherdan Shaqiri.
Have you heard anything about this Eds? {Ed009's Note - no, I've not heard anything unfortunately.}
18 Jun 2011 15:16:03
Joe Cole will be allowed to join Nottingham Forest on a season long loan. Liverpool do not want to lose Joe but they feel he needs more first team football and Delglish see's Forest as the ideal place for him to regain his fitness and touch. Liverpool will pay 50% of his wages. Nottingham Forest are said to be over the moon at this appointment and would like to thank Liverpool for allowing such a player to join up with Steve McClaren.
18 Jun 2011 14:28:02
Liverpool have made a take it or leave it offer with blackpool and will not budge as they don't want to be held to ransom by a cocky chairman.
Instead they are leaving there options open and not going to buy another CM, they are moving for Adam Johnson, and are about half way thru talks. The player wants the move after being allowed to talk to kenny.
Stuart Downing or Nzogbia are the players being looked at for LM at the moment along with Mata but the feeling in the club is that after the U21 tournament either Utd or City or chelsea will come in for him with CL football. So they are spending alot of time trying to get good deals for either downing or Nzogbia.
Connor Wickham fee looks set to be argeed at 10.8 million, 6.5 up front and the rest based on apperances both club and internation level.
There are other targets apparently that have heard from another source but i don't think he is very realiable haha so aint gonna even bother telling anyone lol
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Ok about Mata is getting ridiculous. Mata has no priority of CL football. If he had that he would have left Valencia long time ago. Of course he would have preferred to play CL but that will not be his priority. Also he doesnt care about money. Liverpool offers something that other teams dont! We are the holy grail of football. The players/manager who succeed in getting us back to our glory will be heroes. Kaka didnt go to City, not because he didn't believe in their project but because nobody will care for a City team that won the league. Also there are players who are not interested in an already "ready-to-win-league" team because they see it as "we are just an addition". Among the teams you mentioned, apart from Liverpool, he will be just another player. In Liverpool he will be a core player. So as I see it if those 4 bid for him it will not be down to his choice of CL, but down to which team offers the most to Valencia. If it was down to him he would have preferred the team that offers him potential of becoming a great and which team develops him the most. And just to add the only team out of the 4 which will bid for him is City as Chelsea and United have other targets. We all know United will get Young so United is out of the picture. Barcelona is also out of the picture and so is Real. Out of City and Liverpool Im sure he will pick Liverpool. So mostly it is down to money, the team which will offer the most to Valencia. If we dont go firing on all cylinders for him then we have no real vision.
18 Jun 2011 14:40:26
maybe we never got marveruex cos the king must have sum1 better up his sleeve could be adam johnson
18 Jun 2011 14:28:29
Adzii
I know it a rumour site Adzii, and im not a neymar, sanchez, messi optimist (but I think as a club we should be looking for the best)
I know nothing about transfer for liverpool, thats why i come to this site to see what peoples opinions are!! And all im saying is that Macca is suposed to be in the know. and he said Marveaux was 100% nailed on, and i agree from what ive seen he would only be a squad player.
Id like us to go for Mata if possible.
18 Jun 2011 14:28:20
Hi Eds,
I ve been away for a 3 days and onlty got back this morning, so i ve missed out on the last couple of days transfers action. Anyways, i'd just like to make the following points:
1) Marvereaux (spelling), apparently fails medical and wanted more money so he signed for Toon- jog on, - better quality out there
2) Charlie Adam - KK & DC are not gonna be held to ransom by some two pot chairman from Blackpool - re-above - jog on
3) As a true LFC supporter, I dont care if a player is free or forty million, as long they bring quality and are prepeared to fight to wear the beloved red jersey we wear, then I am happy.Remember people, for every person player who thinks some other club are gonna give him a better oppurtunity simply by the fact the chairman flashes the cash in wages, there are a thousand players who would cut their right arm off to play for this club(now i know a one armed player might prove cumbersome but you know what i mean!).
Everyone know that if LFC show interst in any player the price is gonna rise significantly.People come on this site criticising the price paid for Henderson, saying hes played crap at under 21 tournament yadda yadda, if the lad has a great season next season and setting up goals for Andy Carroll week in week out, thoose very same people will no doubt change their chune to hes the best thing since slice bread.
I for one am not expecting a miracle next season, ie winning league, but I expect us to push for it. I want to win the league, more thanm anything edlse.When KK took the the job on, he knew it was a rebuilding process. Its like buliding a house, u can put the roof on until the foundations are laid. I have no doubt in my mind that KK will be sucessful, but if it takes time so be it.
I dont want us to be like Man City, with the approach, if you throw enough money at it, something is bound to happen, let it be good or bad
KK & DC we bring in players that will lay the foundations of succesfull side for years to come.
What your views Eds/people?
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18 Jun 2011 14:25:14
18 Jun 2011 11:00:13
hello eds..... and other liverpool fans.
before i get to my rumour, just want to say. why is every banging on about "marveaux" like he is the next messi....... at the end of the day. he is now a newcastle player. so why bother wasting the eds time. secondly..... his choice makes me think he is scared of a club like liverpool. as he would be found out sooner than at newcastle if he is not up to the EPL standard.
- I think he had to choose somewhere with a history of paying 5 years wages for 6 months playing time like I did.
Regards
Michael Owen
18 Jun 2011 13:53:22
Referring to Ed001's most recent comments about the Adam and Oyston Saga:
I understand completely what you are saying about Oyston not wanting to let the deal go through because half of the fee goes to rangers and the rest will be expected to be used by Oyston to sign and pay Adam.
But surely that is why we offered Shelvey for a season long-loan, thereby giving Blackpool a replacement central midfielder. I have even heard that Spearing could go there on loan as well. So in this case Oyston gets two midfielders and probably around 5m for one.
Anfield Rapstar
18 Jun 2011 14:54:01
Marveaux passed his medical but there was signs that his body wouldn't last.
He wanted a 4 year deal at minimum of 60k a week, we said no.
Newcastle then signed him without giving him a medical at 65k a week.
18 Jun 2011 14:53:44
Lots of rumours we are in for Rodwell, WTF?? Is KK deliberately winding up Whiskey Nose? Love it! Red77
18 Jun 2011 14:48:25
I think not signing marveaux is a good thing... King Kenny is not "Roy trigger happy Hodgson". We knew Aquilani had problems and still signed him... But king Kenny knows better... Today football is ver advanced with Sports Science coming into play.
If you know a player has a particular injury - would you wanna pay him 60K a week and risk him being in the treatment room all the time... would you wanna buy a house which has a faulty pillar and weak foundations... would you and your family wanna stay in it... Answer is simple - NO.
18 Jun 2011 14:22:22
Liverpool are reportedly closing in on Columbian defender Zapater (spel?) after making him one of their main targets.
Clichy looks set for Roma after having an £8m bid accepted.
Jose Enrique looks Arsenal-bound after being targeted as Clichys replacement.
Personally I'd rather have Zapater than those two although I am a fan of Clichy.
Harry The Red
18 Jun 2011 14:09:48
eds, do you think we will get adam johnson? he is amazing! {Ed009's Note - I agree, he is a fantastic player. I think that if we were to put together an appropriate bid, there is a chance that we could succeed in acquiring his services.}
18 Jun 2011 14:02:48
liverpool is still in the race of geeting adams.
Dalgish wants stars in liverpool.
he wants good midfilders.
18 Jun 2011 14:01:05
Let's not be downhearted losing out to Sylvain Marveaux - I wish Newcastle's revolution well and hope he plays well for them but , we have not missed out on him because we can do better .
He always seemed like a freebie anyway - Bernard Diomede .
Now we can get back to make some serious transfers .
18 Jun 2011 13:45:54
Lucas Rodrigues Moura da Silva i believe we have first refusal can you confirm this would be a fantastic signing.....
18 Jun 2011 13:42:48
missed out on jones
missed out on young
missed out on marvaeux
adam deal dragging on for weeks
clichy deal dragging on for weeks
mata deal dragging on for weeks
downing deal dragging on for weeks
wickham deal dragging on for weeks
dann deal dragging on for weeks
enrique deal dragging on for weeks
not saying i want/wanted all these players but we've already missed out on 3, surely we need 2 get a move ond stop messing about an get some good players signed up!!!... and the 1 player we have signed is definately not up 2 standard and never will be. you can tell by just watching him for 1 minute on the ball. He just hasnt got it!!
18 Jun 2011 13:40:26
i think clichy chances of signing are low considering what kk said to aw at the emirates
18 Jun 2011 13:39:30
Apparently santos maikon leite is available for 5-6m if this true he is deal of the transfer window as this guy has the speed of a cheetah and has the right boot of a lightning bolt and more trickery than a magician plus he is 22-23 so just about fits everything fsg want. a striker who can play just as good or better on the wing. what do you think Ed do you think this would be a good deal? {Ed001's Note - I have no idea.}
18 Jun 2011 13:36:50
I have just intercepted this secret binary coded message from Charlie Adam's Twitter feed,
"00001111100010001010010101000010101011111010010101000010111111001010000100101010"
For all you lunatics who can't read binary it says,
"Looks like I'm on my way to Liverpool for £10m, DJ Campbell is really an alien and Holloway wears womens knicker's"
So that's that then its now 100% official Adam will sign for Liverpool. Always keeping it real,
Samson Rasher
18 Jun 2011 13:36:24
ed i was just watching the 3rd kit video on the lfc officall website and the kit that andy carroll has got on has got the europa league badge on the arm why is this? {Ed001's Note - I have no idea sorry. My guess would be it was just a mistake.}
18 Jun 2011 14:00:25
Once again we're interested in medicore players, but that's what you get with no CL football...
18 Jun 2011 13:54:29
i think if lfc wanted marveaux they would of got him. so i take it they did not see what they thought they wanted thats why they gave up on him. as for adam i wouldnt waste anymore time with it. the blackpool chairmen needs to wake up and realise that the player dont want to play there know more.(what a knob). players i hope we do go for is elia, downing, mata, dann. i do think they should give aquilani a go (not sure what he wants. they say he wants to stay in italy time will tell) one player i think they may get is javis and i think they will try for is lennon. we will just have to wait and see.
18 Jun 2011 13:52:37
just wondering how the saga of aqua prevented us taking marvoux spelling may be dodgy surely he was worth a punt on a free youtube shows him as a skillfull player
18 Jun 2011 13:49:03
I have not read through all of todays posts so this may have been said before.
I, for one, am glad that KD and DC are not being held to ransom by anybody, ie Marvaux and Oyston. We are showing that we are not desperate.
We are also showing that we only want players who want to come to the club for the honour of wearing the shirt not for as much money as they can get, we are not Man City or Chelsea and never want to be.
KD loves our club and believes players should see it as an honour to play for us. I can imagine his thoughts when Marvaux refused to sign until he got more money out of us, especially last minute thinking he'd got KD where he wanted him. "Well there's the door mate, go and sign for some other mug" I can hear the king saying.
It bodes well for future business as players and selling clubs alike will know that we will not be held to ransom.
18 Jun 2011 13:00:58
I think we are all loosing track on who lfc will sign because we spend too much time watching sky bet and ssn. The adam thing is typical they suspend betting nowing full well that the day after that Oyston would do an interview with ssn and say there no offers?! Don't listen to the rumours on SSN.It isn't conrete what they say. You better off listening to local papers us journalists do have inside info with the club.
JD#LFC {Ed001's Note - actually Oyston lied through his teeth, Liverpool did make an offer and Oyston was forced to change his statement to admit talks were ongoing. The only problem there is Oyston, he is refusing to deal, with anyone.}
18 Jun 2011 13:00:45
hi ed after reading most of your responses it amazes me how people believe you have inside information especially seeing how marvaeux has signed for the toons and how many of you editors claiimed he is "100% ours"
but i do enjoy having a laugh and seeing who people say we are linked to.
as you can see kenny does not give much away to anyone as all our signings so far have come out of nowhere and only he knows and will not be giving information out which could alert other teams about our dealings!
thank you marc jft96YNWA {Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? Are you completely clueless? We had the deal all sorted, then the medical results showed issues, so we asked him to take a smaller basic wage with bigger appearance bonuses in return. He refused and went to Newcastle who met his demands. What is so difficult to understand about that? He even confirmed himself that the deal broke down over personal terms. Now stop trying to sound clever and having a pathetic little dig about nothing.}
18 Jun 2011 12:57:59
Just up to see Marveau signing for the toon.
Why are fans getting their knickers in a knot over a player who I presume would have been 2nd fiddle at best to our 1st choice winger.
I like other fans are desperate to see us sign quality & am just as impatient to see it happen asap but surely July will be a more realistic month to see deals go through.
The smart money may be on downing, adam & enrique to sign but my question to the eds is in all reality are deals made between clubs that they will sell a player to us if we dont go for a player they are interested in? -seems unlikely to me!
Trust in the King please fans
(& adam and downing are next to sign! ;-))
5uarezTimes {Ed001's Note - those kind of deals very rarely happen.}
18 Jun 2011 12:57:53
do u think after missing out on marveax we will try go for jarvis, i dont really rate him much but could be a decent squad player and cheap option. thanks
18 Jun 2011 12:51:32
Alberto Aquilani has provided more Premier League assists (6) than Luka Modric (5) since August 2009
18 Jun 2011 13:29:27
Ed don't you think cissokho would be best for left back....i think it will be him or clichy that we're going to get. {Ed009's Note - he would be my favourite signing for left back by a country mile, but Lyon have an infuriating policy of escalating transfer prices to english clubs. I think Clichy is unlikely due to Wenger's stubborn nature, unless we offer ludicrous money.}
18 Jun 2011 13:27:35
Skybet now have Aston Villa as the second favorite to Charlie Adam at 5/1 while Liverpool are 1/3.
GT
18 Jun 2011 13:25:51
{Ed001's Note - on Adam, the lad himself thinks Oyston will just refuse to sell him for any money and he will be forced to see out his contract. Selling him would cost Oyston more than just letting him go on a free and that is all Oyston cares about. He is only interested in money. Ngog is on holiday.}
Can you explain how selling him would cost more than just letting him go on a free. That doesnt seem to make any sense.
18 Jun 2011 13:19:39
This clammer for signings off the new generation of fans who are not prepared to be objective is truly shocking.
You need to take a long hard look yourself. In fact i am getting really brassed off with the total lack of knowledge on these pages. The fans who know a little about the game are spending too much time answering the ridiculous spouting's of this next gen fan.
As a true fan. The attributes you are showing is not up to the job in hand. If you actually had to apply to be a fan of this great club, these idiots that come on this site would get as far as putting their knowledge on a postage stamp.
Seriously a player fails a medical and you moan becuase another club takes a risk and signs from under our noses. So fast forward onto December and pretend we signed him, Marveaux is out with a recurrence of his long standing groin strain. He spends the best part of the winter chatting to Agger.
You spend the best part of the winter coming onto this site and slagging off the club for signing a crock and why didn't we sign Aguero?
For Christ's sake grow up, show a modicum of intelligence. I am getting bored.
Bob the Red
18 Jun 2011 13:19:14
18 Jun 2011 01:28:56
18 Jun 2011 00:26:06
This is the list which Comolli has drawn up and KK is willing to go by it.
Players In:
Lucas Barrios - £17mil
Gael Clichy - £8mil
Charlie Adam - £9.5mil
Scott Dann - £10mil
Players Out:
Joe Cole - £3.5mil OR Part Exchange
Milan Jovanovic - £5mil
Paul Koncheski - £750k
Christian Poulson - £2mil
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did he drop the list in tesco or somethin?
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F**k me that made me laugh
18 Jun 2011 13:15:53
If we are going to get in the top for who will we be replacing. All of those teams are looking to improve their squads also. If we are only looking at players like Downing & Wickham while Chelsea are after the likes of Lukaku then we will get 5th or 6th. {Ed009's Note - I believe we could replace Arsenal. I am almost certain that we will not make signings as big money and dramatic as Chelsea, but I am equally certain that we will improve our team as much, if not more.}
18 Jun 2011 13:15:46
for the record we cant lose charlie adam from under our nose's as we have done with Marveux... even tho Marveux is wasted.. we need to actully sign our targets now like we did with henderson.
18 Jun 2011 13:15:03
top site ed.im a new feller on this site , and its f****., the best site that i know , i in mine and have listened 2 all the people that make this site , wat it is and if i can put it simps we all want the beat players , but some feller said (lets walk before we run) so true , u can buy superstars all day, still doesnt make a team , we r all lookin 4 the big sighnin, but we have got the best fans in the world and , we knoe wats comin , the league, then fa, and all the rest in it boys love allu xx and ed lol
18 Jun 2011 13:15:01
People keep saying Owen Oysten is being a pain holding up the Charlie Adam deal but, to be fair he's only trying to do what's best by his club. We weren't happy when Mascherano was being chased by Barcelona and kept saying he wanted to leave, why should Blackpool be any different. In a way it's refreshing to see a chairman standing up to players. Charlie Adam has a contract. He was happy with it when he left Rangers, he can't just expect Blackpool to tear it up just because he got a better offer. We should have done the same with Mascherano.
Stell
18 Jun 2011 13:13:42
For all the people criticising missing out on Marveaux, I wouldn't worry, there are very few examples of free transfers that have been successful, they are usually already established players looking to move for a bumper wage rise so wind their contracts down, (Sol Campbell, Ballack for example) You would rarely get a decent young prospect on a free, if they were that good, you can bet they would not be allowed to slip through their clubs fingers. And I think Liverpool have been stung on free transfers enough (Voronin, Jovanovic, Cole). We even missed out on Chamakh who looked good for a few months, but then disappeared for the rest of the season.
18 Jun 2011 13:12:47
If we can't get Baines or Angel, then i think the next best option would be Criscito, any thoughts?.
Also, if we can get Aurelio fit all season, we'll only need a part timer anyway.
18 Jun 2011 13:06:27
Hi eds and Liverpool fans, my first post on this great website. I think Liverpool was right to turn down marveaux with him possibly bend prone with injuries down the line. I'd like to see Liverpool go for Leighton baines he would be a clever signing and also cahill. Also Adam Johnson I think they should go balls out for him he would bring quality to the side and again a great signing . Iam getting to the stage of sayin forget Charlie Adam even thighs I'd like to see him at lfc maybe instead we could go for and put the money up for alonso and make a real bid for him as both him and lfc would love it? What's ur thought on a striker , bojan? And a left winger apart from downing?
18 Jun 2011 13:05:28
ed's is there any chance that we may got surprised by our winger signings ? i mean payet, elia..... in stead of mata, downing.. {Ed009's Note - I suppose there could be a chance.}
18 Jun 2011 12:47:42
Marveaux to sign this weekend... or not?
Yes? According to ouest-france (link below), Marveaux passed his medical with us on Thursday. Internet rumours of him having failed the medical are described as crazy, having been completely denied by Marveaux.
According to ouest-france, Marveaux himself is insisting that only final points of negotiation remain to be agreed. Apparently, he should sign this weekend (not that we would hear until July anyway).
(www.ouest-france.fr/ofdernmin_-Probleme-medical-a-Liverpool-Marveaux-dement_6346-1838542-fils-tous_filDMA.Htm)
No? Meanwhile, football.fr seems to be the root french source of confirmation of that the medical was failed, seemingly citing themselves as their information source - which may or may not mean they've simply been scouting the internet. Who knows?
Make of it what you will, folks.
18 Jun 2011 12:44:52
Hi Eds and LFC family,
So Marveaux has gone to Newcastle, is it medical or wages or both? If medical, Newc always have crocked players - Ben Arfa, Dyer, Parker, Taylor so there medical staff are always busy - another added to list possibly?
It's not a big loss, Kenny and Comolli MUST have plans up their sleeves, I feel this because of the Torres out and Suarez & Carroll in.
We are still strongly linked to Mata, Johnson, Downing and if we play same formation as we finished last season we will play 2 cb, 2 wb, 3 cm, 2 attackers/wingers and a striker!
Have faith, we do need a left back and attackers/wingers for sure.
Thanks for reading.
Bazzaa {Ed001's Note - both, because of his medical we were not willing to meet his wage demands.}
18 Jun 2011 12:44:28
Well done Kk and DC for sticking to your guns. Marveaux had a value based on his talent, free transfer status and injury record. If he demanded to much we did well not to take him on. The big transfers will happen in July, till then be patient and let's see if we get a couple of decent premiership based players. Reality Red
18 Jun 2011 12:39:29
According to reports in the Express & Star, new Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish is planning a £9million bid for Blackpool midfielder Charlie Adam. Is that the sort of signing that could help McLeish to win over doubting Villa fans?
SSN
18 Jun 2011 12:38:51
This is the list which Comolli has drawn up and KK is willing to go by it.
Players In:
Lucas Barrios - £17mil
Gael Clichy - £8mil
Charlie Adam - £9.5mil
Scott Dann - £10mil
Players Out:
Joe Cole - £3.5mil OR Part Exchange
Milan Jovanovic - £5mil
Paul Koncheski - £750k
Christian Poulson - £2mil
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No way we going to get 750k for konchesky he cost us 5m he should atleast be worth 2-3m
18 Jun 2011 12:33:28
18 Jun 2011 12:09:10
Joe Coles new club will get him on £20 grand a week less then his current contract at Liverpool, he is that desperate to leave
i have a feeling he will be staying, i think under kenny and clarke he will do much better
18 Jun 2011 12:33:01
Well Macca,
We can all use the player changed his mind, or the situation has changed as an excuse!!
YOU seen to be nothing glorified fan!!
We again seem to be losing out on so called targets..clichy, Marveax, adam, enrique and so on..
Do you really know anything about transfer targets or will you hide behind the above excuses!
Andy Ireland
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What a idiot. This is a rumours site, your probably a neymar, sanchez, messi optomist. Do us all a favour and shut up. Marveaux was practically signed if it wasnt for a medical problem and also his ridiculous wage demands. I thought he may have been a decent player for liverpool and the squad but looking at the small print on the player it doesnt stack up. Grab yourself a crystal ball mate and lets see how you get on predicting who will be the "next player" to sign for LFC.
Kind Regards :)
Adzii
18 Jun 2011 12:20:04
Marveaux....thank god we didnt sign him. Newcastle are welcome to him.
Its opening the door to possibly bidding for Adam Johnson...who in my eyes will become the best winger in England, possibly even europe.
Eds, how do you rate our chances of Adam Johnson?
And also..what is the Udinese centre half Zapata like? I ain't seen much of him.
Thanks Lads
Site is quality.
Coxy. {Ed001's Note - impossible to say on Johnson, first City have to get a replacement, then they have to be convinced to sell him to us, that will be the main sticking point. I have never seen Zapata play sorry.}
18 Jun 2011 12:31:12
Morning lads, just wondering if there is any truth in the lucas barrios rumours, il admit i watched him on youtube, i know not a reliable source but he does look like a real poacher, a lot of his goals are from a few yards out ala hernandez of united, hes really quick and and good in the air!!
Also to be honest it did sound as though marvereux would have been a decent player and i would have liked to see him at anfield however i am glad that we didnt meet his wage demands if they were so high, i mean we pay jovanovic about 100,000 a week!
Ed where did all these lucas barrios rumours come out of?
TQ
18 Jun 2011 12:29:53
The Gago rumours appear to be gathering pace, what's your thought ed? Likely or not? A player worth getting? {Ed009's Note - I think the player would be a decent signing on the cheap, but I haven't seen enough of him in the last few years to know how he would perform.}
18 Jun 2011 12:28:05
ED's
Why is everyone so glum so we lost Marveux big deal, if we believe what we hear it was not about playing for LFC it was about the money (mercenary)okay the guy was free but we dont need another sicknote and his injury record is pretty poor.
The good thing is none of us really can 100% say that anyone will sign until it happens.The club is keeping everything in house and thats the way it should be.
We have still been linked with some great players like
Lucas Moura, Zapata.Mata, Barrios, Hazard, marvin, diego, sakho, coutinho and the list goes on.
We need to be patient and have faith in what KK is doing.
REDFORLIFE
18 Jun 2011 12:25:47
Hi Eds, fantastic job you guys are doing!
The sylvain Mavrouxe (spelling) saga will prove to one and all how shrewd DC is. As well as 'unclear physical future-to-be complications' the player's demands may have been a factor in us pulling out. KK always said certain players the club will do without.
This could be a blessing in disguise.
Redpersian in London
18 Jun 2011 12:23:55
18 Jun 2011 10:29:23
To Ed001,
With Charlie Adam, the problem is purely Oyston, he is refusing to sell again, even though Charlie has told him he wants out now and doesn't want to play for Blackpool again, purely because of Oyston. Oyston's thinking is that if he sells him for say 10m, 55% of the money goes to other people, the fans would expect the club to pay at least 3 or 4m on his replacement. Any replacement is not going to sign for the 4k a week Charlie Adam earns, he is going to want a lot more. So it will actually end up costing Oyston money to sell him now, whereas if he waits and releases him at the end of next season it costs nothing.}
Just read your reply above, and all what you say makes sense and begrudginlgy kind of agree with it. I would love to see Adam play for LFC (and I probably will before too long) but Oyston is only looking after his own interests in the same way any of us would. Lets be honest to the majority of footballers these days, clubs are just places of business that pay their wages, and they'd happily toss the club and all their adoring fans aside as soon as a better offer is put infront of them. When all chairmen can see this happening why should they treat the players anymore than just comodities?
Tommy Walsh
oystons a prick, i mean whats he gunna do next time he wants to buy a player every player now will be like wow dont wanna play for them if thats how they treat their players, , , and i think charlie adam should jus collect wages and not play for them or buy his contract out or liverpool should offer him the money back if he buys his contract out lol
18 Jun 2011 12:23:51
With Charlie Adam, the problem is purely Oyston, he is refusing to sell again, even though Charlie has told him he wants out now and doesn't want to play for Blackpool again, purely because of Oyston. Oyston's thinking is that if he sells him for say 10m, 55% of the money goes to other people, the fans would expect the club to pay at least 3 or 4m on his replacement. Any replacement is not going to sign for the 4k a week Charlie Adam earns, he is going to want a lot more. So it will actually end up costing Oyston money to sell him now, whereas if he waits and releases him at the end of next season it costs nothing.}
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thing is i compleatley agree, but in 12months time when Adam can go on a free this means he will have 2 replace him anyway, thus meaning he wnt get a player on 4k a week anyway to replace him, so why not sell him now, get 3/4m that he can spend on a player, rather than it come out of his own pocket in 12months time, because he would be gaining 3/4m now where he would be at even more of a los in theory in 12months time!!??
WelshRed
18 Jun 2011 12:21:22
Humble pie on the Marveaux signing eds or not, your track record on signings isnt very good lately is it nothing on carroll and henderson, there was no chance of suarez and marveaux was a near certainty...!!! cheers olly {Ed009's Note - hmmm delicious pie}
18 Jun 2011 12:16:28
I know this isnt a rumour , but i think its worth a read for those who are dissapointed at the fact that marveaux wont be signing for us. If its true that he cant cross , and is injury prone, then I dont think he's the type of winger for us. Im aware that this might come back to haunt us!
Dara D
18 Jun 2011 12:15:41
Don't see what the argument is in Blackpool keeping Adams and let his contract expire as it will cost more to sell him now. I mean yes sell him now for £10m 55% of that is due to 3rd parties and a replacement needs to be found costing more in wages than he is on now. But what if he walks out in a free next year a replacement needs to be found only difference is they won't have £4-£5m in the bank as they won't get a fee for him. Only person who will benefit will probably be Adams as he gets a fatter signing on fee.
18 Jun 2011 12:15:33
8 Jun 2011 11:31:22 Nice to see the doom and gloom moungers are back out in force again eds!..........Why cant people be patient?.....So far under FSG, KK and DC we have Had one transfer window with not much time (KK) and I think you would all agree that we done some cracking work, No one really knows on here whats truly going on behind closed doors and its a long long time till this window shuts. Infact it has'nt even truly opened yet! (July 1st)......So grow up stop crying and wait!!
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Cracking work? You think that paying 20m too much for a player of very questionable fitness and bad discipline is good work? Carroll has potential ill give you that but 35 m is what you pay for proven and experienced players, no youngster filled only with potential has ever cost that much!
And then paying 10m over the odds for another player with potential?
Id rather have saved the 30m. They may well be worth it eventually but that's a 30m pound gamble there!
Suarez was a good signing and fully justifies his price but carroll won't justify it for a couple of years yet. Let's not spend over the odds from now on unless they are guaranteed quality.
Mr E
18 Jun 2011 12:15:25
I think everyone needs to relax a little. We are only mid way through June and a lot of people are getting impatient with the perceived lack of movement in the transfer market.
Have faith in our King, he will provide!
Just to lighten the mood, I heard this funny quote the other day:
Statistically speaking 6 out of 7 dwarves are not happy!
Fabian Treezle
18 Jun 2011 12:15:09
Just a quick question eds, if marveaux failed a medical for us how has he signed for newc? Surely he would of failed there too.
Cheers,
Red dave 82 {Ed009's Note - {Ed009's Note - he didn't fail his medical per se, but it cast light on several detrimental problems with his body which could lead to severe injury problems in the future. As such we were unwilling to bow to his wage demandes. If you ask me it shows our intent in the market; clearly we believe we can find a replacement to sign instead.}
18 Jun 2011 12:12:03
I am happy none of us have a clue! roll on the good times!
Rivoo
18 Jun 2011 12:10:40
Re Marveaux signing for "mediocre club" have a bit of respect for toon please guys!
I am told Pool were cautious about groin strain and Toon decided to take risk thats what FatAsh does
18 Jun 2011 12:10:16
I love the way everyone is now coming on here saying that all of the ED's got it wrong over Marveux and that Macca is talking out of his backside..... It does make me laugh...... Also everyone was saying what a great signing this Marveux was gonna be for us and now that he has signed for Newcastle everyone is saying that he is sh*t..... The bottom line is that we did not want to take the risk on an injury prone player and Newcastle did.... Will he be the next Messi.... I doubt it.... Should we panic.... Course not.... Kenny is in charge!!
P.S Stop slating Commoli..... If Kenny says that he is doing a good job then that is good enough for me as well.... Kenny could bury him with the fans by saying he wants him out now.... Has he done it...... NO.....
RANT OVER..... I'm off to tesco for some crispy cremes!!! I have to feed my jonnybarnes arse!!
jonnybarnes89-90
18 Jun 2011 12:06:51
Hi Ed's,
What is going on at the moment? We seem to be losing out on all our targets either to greed (Marveaux, not really bothered tho tbh) or because we're not brave enough to tell people to stick it and move on to someone else (Adam, due to Oyston).
All links seem to have dried up so is it likely we could just end up with Henderson and the youngsters we signed?? {Ed009's Note - No, I very much doubt that is all we will sign. There is a long time for the Adam deal to be finalised and I believe it could well still be. I also think there will be several other signings that will improve both the squad and first team. Don't worry yet.}
18 Jun 2011 12:03:41
hi ed, what is CRISTIAN ZAPATA like as a player? i have never seen him play and was hoping to get your views on him?
thanks, jlk {Ed009's Note - he's a very good young defender. Sturdy, good in the tackle and the air and comfortable on the ball. I believe he would be a good signing.}
18 Jun 2011 12:00:34
Hi ED, just wanted to comment on the Charlie Adam saga; I think Charlie Adam' conduct during this whole process has been fantastic; it is obvious he wants to come to Liverpool but his chairman is refusing to discuss or accept any deal. Rather than putting in a transfer request to force the issue but leave Blackpool under a cloud or going to media with his complaints he has kept a dignified silence.
He hasn't joined yet be he is doing things 'the Liverpool way'
JG
18 Jun 2011 11:58:52
Charlie Adam, Some want him, Some dont. Oyston doesnt want him to come to LFC, Adam wants to come to LFC. Adam will not pay for Blackpool again, After the way hes been treated. I can only see one result. Modric will go to Chelsea, Adam will end up at Spurs. Personaly, I would like Adam to sign, But cant see Kenny being held to Ransom. But after todays goings on who knows were he will be playing next season. I only hope Oyston grants Adam his dream move to Liverpool.
18 Jun 2011 11:58:13
hi all, is it right that marveaux is 28 yrs old? if so he has made no impact at any level be it club or country, so i reckon our sights are being aimed a whole lot higher and rightly so. good riddance
all red {Ed009's Note - he's 25 at this moment in time.}
18 Jun 2011 11:57:42
Ok a lot of people keep saying "I only want players that play for the badge" etc. Madrid are the most successfull and prestigious club in the world, they have very few players that play for the badge. Milan are next, the same goes there.
There are few players in todays football that play for the badge, why should a player not be paid significant sums if he is significant to success? People on here recently have been saying that we shouldn't make low bids to teams for players as its not the classy way to go, why should we make embarassing wage offers to players?
As for playing for the badge.... it can CONTRIBUTE to a player signing but is not the main reason even for local lads like stevie g. You think if we offered gerrard pitiful wages he would sign because of his love of the badge? Of course not.
Rewflo
18 Jun 2011 11:49:19
Well Macca,
We can all use the player changed his mind, or the situation has changed as an excuse!!
YOU seen to be nothing glorified fan!!
We again seem to be losing out on so called targets..clichy, Marveax, adam, enrique and so on..
Do you really know anything about transfer targets or will you hide behind the above excuses!
Andy Ireland
18 Jun 2011 11:43:50
I have been reading everybodys posts since last year and decided to get in on the action! People are claiming that certain players are good squad players....correct me if I'm wrong but you need 15-20 first team players. This is the only way we will reign again.
On another point remember that this is a rumours website not a 100% it will happen so stop slating and take everything with a pinch of salt.
On that note I think that Adam, a. Johnson and mata will be pulling on the mighty reds shirt next season.
Keep it up ed's!
Darwin
18 Jun 2011 11:42:47
So stop bring so glum. We could stil bag Mata, Cazorla, Clichy, Zapata Honda and whoever else ( as we know there's always a signing no one even sees coming ala Meirelles and Henderson )
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its not doom and gloom because of marveaux, its because our transfer targets are modest ones and even they turn us down. Only reason we got henderson is coz we paid ridiculoys price for him. What targets are left? Mata? Forget about it he will have much better options than us this summer.
The only players we sign are the ones noone else is interested in or players that we outbid everyone else for.
We don't bid for aguero, pastore, etc because they would laugh in our face. 3 years time maybe we will be in a position to turn world class heads, until then we will have to make do with whatever is left when the successful teams have finished buying
Mr E
18 Jun 2011 11:42:42
pls fellow fans calm our skins down as kk and dc will get the right players in (bet you im right soon)
18 Jun 2011 11:42:36
people are on about Lucas Barrios and i can tell you most of his goals are generated by other people(assists) and he seems to aware of being in right place at right time and if we were to go for player like him we will need wingers so in my opinion wingers should come first before we look another striker/forward . otherwise him and carroll/kuyt will struggle
18 Jun 2011 11:42:30
Some folks need to lay off the Eds...Its a blessing that we havent got Marveux and I would assume all part of KK and DC plans. Maybe they knew Newcastle were interested, allowed him to join then in order to sort out woeful left back issue out...Enrique likely to sign now.
The Eds and Macca clearly stated that this was a nailed on deal, but this was prior to his medical. Nobody knows why or how he failed the medical but he did. Maybe WE failed his medical after Newcastles interest deliberately.
He is not a world class player as will be demonstrated at Newcastle and quite frankly we can do far far better.
ED(s) - who can we expect to see signing or are the most likely to sign?
WelshKopStar {Ed009's Note - the hardest thing is when people slam us for a wrong prediction which we could never have foreseen before asking us for our new predictions. This isn't aimed at you of course but it can be rather astounding. It's impossible to say with certainty who we will sign; I would have said Adam but Oyston is reacting badly; I would say Downing but its far from certain and so I'll be crucified if its wrong, but those remain probably the two closest to making a move. Thank you for your support, by the way.}
18 Jun 2011 11:42:13
hoping to sign players with real quality and are going to improve our club. Would love to see mata and johnson. And also wickham for the future!
18 Jun 2011 11:39:19
Thank god we never signed marveux use what ever money we were gonna pay him in wages and put toward getting mata the guy is quality and would improve our play so much him suarez adam and gerrard linking up so powerful come on kk&dc pull it out the bag...stevo
18 Jun 2011 11:38:40
Come on lets be fair.. Are we now expected to know the results of the medical before he has one or if he asks for more money..
Do you want the lottery numbers for Wednesday..
As i keep saying, situations can change..
Cheers
Macca
18 Jun 2011 11:35:05
{Ed001's Note - we took a look at the reports from his medical and weren't keen on paying him what he wanted due to certain identified weaknesses flagged up. Newcastle came in and met his demands. Simple really, he chose the money over the chance to play for us.}
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Ed I remember once asking about his wages and I think Ed002 said along the lines of his wages being very low compared to players in England. I don't remember his exact wordings but I asked that question because of high wage demands by free agents like in the case of cole and jovanovic. Anyway its good that we didn't budged from our stance for a player who is both unproven in PL and has a significant injury record.
VM YNWA
18 Jun 2011 11:34:15
A medical was failed with Marveaux. After all that messing around! Let me just reitterate to all fellow posters this isnt the eds mistake and misunderstandings, he was pretty much odds on to sign. This is unfortunate news as he would have been a terrific inclusion to the squad
Adzii
I disagree he wouldn't of been that good, JOVANOVIC springs to mind
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A pacey french 25 year old winger is alot more use than a lanky lazy striker who has been adopted to a left sided winger. Did i mention hes 28/29 also? Marveaux would have been a good aquisition in my mind.
Adzii {Ed009's Note - I agree Adzii}
18 Jun 2011 11:33:01
Liverpool will sign Craig Bellamy for £20 million, and Reina will go to Notts Forest on a free. Ashley Cole will join for a packet of biscuits, and Xavi will be at Melwood in the next few days. He couldn't refuse the chance to work alongside Poulsen and learn from the best. Ngog has convinced Messi to join in January as they are best mates. I heard this from a half naked man in a public toilet. It was the bottom half.
18 Jun 2011 11:31:22
Nice to see the doom and gloom moungers are back out in force again eds!..........Why cant people be patient?.....So far under FSG, KK and DC we have Had one transfer window with not much time (KK), and I think you would all agree that we done some cracking work, No one really knows on here whats truly going on behind closed doors and its a long long time till this window shuts. Infact it has'nt even truly opened yet! (July 1st)......So grow up stop crying and wait!!!
Your either on this march with Kennys army or your not?
18 Jun 2011 11:29:02
Hi Eds, great site it's so addictive.
With Adam only having one year on his contract and Karl Oystar not wanting to sell why dosen't Adam buy out his contract and join us on a Bosman or Iam I missing somthing?
Cheers
p7909. {Ed009's Note - whilst it is a possibility, with his (comparitively) meagre wages, he can't afford to do so without spending a lot of his money. I don't think you should be too pessimistic, we could still see a resolution to the Adam deal.}
18 Jun 2011 10:01:41
eds, is cristian zapata any good?? and do you think we are likely to sign him? cheers {Ed009's Note - I rate Zapata highly, as a young and sturdy centre back who's comfortable on the ball. There is a chance he could make the move, but at this time nothing is anything near concrete.}
18 Jun 2011 09:07:37
Sylvain Marveaux Sign's for Newcastle, Ed 02 any idea why it fell through with us?
Thanks
Pete {Ed009's Note - after his medical we were unwilling to accept his wage demands in light of the several problems with his body which could lead to him often being injured. A shame because he'll make a good signing for Newcastle. At least it means another quality winger, hopefully.}
18 Jun 2011 11:24:44
In reply to the post:
18 Jun 2011 09:58:08
Have been checking the website out for ages, addicted to it. Keep up the good work eds! This is my first post so please post on the rumours page, even if it is not an actual rumour.
Before i went to bed, marveaux was nailed to join liverpool or so it seemed. Wake up this morning, and he's joined the magpies!!
Okay I'm not really that bothered that he hasn't joined but do think he would have been a decent squad player.
My concern is that this doesnt looked good for Liverpool, to be beaten to the signing of a player because we wouldnt offer him enough money. Let's just hope that if we are looking at better players that we offer them a deal they cannot refuse, instead of losing them to mediocre clubs!!
I have in faith in KK but i bet old purple nose is having a bit of a chuckle at reading we lost out on a player we were allegedly nailed onto sign since January!
Red legend YNWA
Now I'm having me a chuckle about losing out on Marveux. Why are people worried to the point where they ask 'Couldn't we offer him enough money?' or 'What does it look like when the Toon beat us to the signing of a player?'
Everything about Liverpool's business is being conducted aka the days of the Old Boot Room. Look at the transfers of Suarez & Carroll. If we wanted Marveux then he'd be an LFC player right now. Either his previous injuries are a concern or he wanted ridiculous money for a player who needs to prove his fitness (I for one am pleased that Kenny is treating the clubs money as his own and ensuring LFC dont pay over the odds!) KK has every right to walk away from a deal if it doesn't suit LFC for any readon. OR the issue of Marveux being nailed has just been a smokescreen and there is better yet to come.
IMO I believe its the latter. So stop overanalysing, take a step back and look at what FSG, DC and KK have done thus far. Does the lose of Marveux seem consistent with what we've seen so far with our own eyes. Therefore, if we have faith in KK, then believe - In KK we trust!
Stevie G
18 Jun 2011 11:23:28
Who thinks we will only sign Henderson this summer. Why are targets taking so lOng?
18 Jun 2011 11:22:28
Rumours please...
Dont see why people are complaining about the Marveaux deal falling through. Im glad we sent him packing rather than wasting our cash on another (possible) Aquilani/Babel/Jova etc etc. These are the type of players we usually snap up without a second thought and end up failing! Good for us we didnt meet his demands. Hope we get Adam soon!
Phil
18 Jun 2011 11:22:14
heard joe cole signed extension for liverpool and extra £10,000 a week
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you live in cuckoo land if you believe that.
18 Jun 2011 11:18:03
Let's face it all chaps none of us have a clue what is going on or who is being looked at. No one really knew about Henderson and we all thought marveaux was in the bag.
Personally I like being surprised!
That said though I'd love to see mata and benega at the club!
ADAM
18 Jun 2011 11:01:33
Ed's my first post on here but got to say it all makes great reading. I personally think that all gripes about missing targets now that Marveaux has gone to the Toon is ill conceived. The LFC way has always been to do things behind closed doors. KK is returning us back to those ways and I for one am glad of that. I am sure that KK and DC know who they want and what they are willing to pay. We got Joe Cole on a Bosman last year and that has been a disaster - Marveaux probably would have been the same. I would rather we commit ourselves to players that want to play for the badge and not the money alone.
18 Jun 2011 11:12:45
we should not sign anybody on bosman transfers because they always seem to flop Voronin, Jovnovic, Cole ect and i think Marveux would have been just the same
LEECH
18 Jun 2011 11:05:41
marvaux deal must of been dodgy for dc and kk not to follow up signing.
they will have replacements no doubt.
18 Jun 2011 10:46:32
The best option would be Elijero Elia, the boy does magic!!
he would be perfect for liverpool fc
what do u think ED? {Ed001's Note - he can't cross or pass, he is just Ryan Babel all over again.}
18 Jun 2011 09:53:54
Ed's, how do you feel on losing out on marvueax? I'm a tad disappointed but hopefully it means more chance for other, better, wingers. Thanks :) {Ed001's Note - I have never seen the lad play so I don't really care one way or the other to be honest.}
18 Jun 2011 10:25:16
I think it's Marveaux-lous news that we haven't signed a money grabbing midtable player from a poor French league where he has only managed 16 goals in 100+ games. Now let's sign Mata and prove where we want to be. Village
18 Jun 2011 10:23:49
Whether anyone wants to admit it or not our transfer dealings thus far are a bit shoddy. So jones was a top target, united nicked him, young was a top target and united nicked him. Now I can take united stealing a target, they have history, success, wages and euro competition on offer. But if marveaux was a top target and we lost him to newcastle then what hope is there of persuading hot propert like mata?
Macca is right we will only sign british players because that's all that is available to us....and not even good british players.
I know we are building a team for the future but that's what we ALWAYS say, I'm tired of false dawns everu 5 years. We as fans deserve success after 20 years of patience. If downing couldn't even help villa into europe why should we expect him to help us to the title.
Bit of a rant I know but am I wrong?
Mr E
18 Jun 2011 10:19:34
Hi eds, a lot of your posts mention buying young players with a high resale value...but surely if we sign a top young talent the last thing we will do is sell him on??!! {Ed001's Note - it is just in case we have to sell them, because they don't work out or want to leave.}
18 Jun 2011 10:19:19
This will be just another typical "off-season", we will be linked with all and sundry, good, bad and indifferent, but the end result will be the same.
We will be linked with all manner of high quality players, however reality will bite and once again will will settle for third tier mediocre players, of which we will pay over the odds for (as always), and in turn the club will try to convince the fans that they are "quality", but unfortunately on field performances will glaringly highlight the opposite.
Again the club will profess at trying to lower the wage bill, but that it is simple in theory, in practice the parasitic no marks will be as ever reluctant to leave the "gravy-train" (although they classify themselves as footballers they don't seem too perturb at actually playing football).
Downing, yeah let's get Downing .... yes he can cross a ball, but that's it, he will be just another waste of space and money, he'll play one good game out of five or six, like he has done his entire career. In that one game he does decide to play well in he will look a Billion dollars, a world class player, however, for the next four or five games will see him go through the motions, loose the ball, put crosses into the stand, etc, etc, just like he has for his entire career.
Marveaux, absolutely "nailed on", yeah, only through the Grace of God and probably a lucky piece of medical interpretation have we saved ourselves from buying (obtaining - free transfer) another crook, who would legally thieve around £60,000 a week for impersonating a "footballer".
I hope Henderson can prove his worth, not totally sure, let's just hope he can transform perceived promise into actual on field ability.
Rant borne out of frustration! - feel free to slate me, ridicule my loyalty, question my actual allegiances, etc, etc but at least I've voiced my opinion, an opinion that i'm sure quite afew supporters secretly harbour but ever dare state.
18 Jun 2011 10:17:24
Hi Ed's.
Any news on the LB situation? It seems that Clichy is goign to Roma and Enrique to Arsenal. If we were after Baines, surely we would have moved for him by now (he would be my first choice)?
Does this suggest that a LB from outside the UK is looking likely. If this is the case I would hope its Cissokho.
Fensh {Ed001's Note - I have never been convinced we were after Enrique, Clichy was just people assuming because we spoke to Arsenal and DC brought him to England. I can't see a single worthwhile LB target in the UK to aim for, so it does suggest we will be looking abroad.}
18 Jun 2011 10:14:23
18 Jun 2011 08:17:59
Metzelder on DC and KK radar in a £15mil offer. The german internation has been on comollis list since his Arsenal days.
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Metzelder is garbage and I'd be gutted if we paid £15 million for him. Metzelder and Mertesacker are one of the worst centre half pairings I've ever seen in a national team. We should go all out for Subotic. Bundesliga player of the year in my eyes.
18 Jun 2011 10:11:13
Ok we can all safely say Sylvain Marveaux has signed for Newcastle now can we all talk about something else now cos it's getting abit boring now
big red john
18 Jun 2011 10:10:32
i think we need to forget marveaux now. It was obviously the correct decision not to push the boat out to get him with his medical record. As another poster stated he has missed 72 games in the last 2 seasons. Did we really want that baggage on our bench commanding a large wage in the process. Not for me. I think that there are bigger and better players on the horizon. Think mata, downing and any other surprises that may come to light. Cos lets face it, business at LFC is now being done the 'PROPER' way, the way it used to be conducted.
Steve(first time poster)
18 Jun 2011 11:03:21
Not so much a rumour but just a thought, with Enrique and Clichy possibly out of the equation, does anyone think this could pave the way for ''marquee'' signing Gareth Bale?
Just a few things making me think, we've heard there will be surprise transfers, he fits the British and young targets, didnt Comolli pick him up for Spurs?, and Harry Redknapp will be off for the England managers spot next year, possibily cash + Joe Cole for a deal?
JUST A THOUGHT THATS ALL
18 Jun 2011 11:00:14
It will be interesting to see how fit Marveaux stays next season. I have only seen him on Utube but he looked decent. May not be a great loss but that depends very much on who we get in and at the moment nothing seems to be going our way. I know there is a few weeks to go but we could do with a bit of good news to cheer the fans.
It seems the lack of European football and the reluctance to pay asking prices are proving big problems as most of the teams we are competing against for players seem to have either CL football or loads of money or both.
At the end of the day though it is only eleven a side and as has been proved before it is not necessarily the most expensive teams that win things.
18 Jun 2011 10:59:13
It's good to see we have learnt from the Aquilani mistakes of signing an injured player, if they're only available for less than half a season, they're not worth the hassle. If Newcastle want to take Marveaux on, fair play to them - pay an extra £20,000 a week- get your man. From a Newcastle point of view, they've made 3 good signings in Ba, Cabaye and Marveaux. This shows the "weaker" teams are strengthening, add to that last years top 4 starting to move in the transfer market with the likes of Modric and Sanchez, I feel this will only ramp Kenny's transfer plans into overdrive as next year the league will be closer than ever.
Papers seem to be claiming some our "targets" on their way to other clubs - e.g. Enrique to Arsenal, Clichy to Roma, but I'm sure Kenny and DC have plans. DC has said that we will move early so it gives us time to reassess our targets if we don't get our no1 choice.
18 Jun 2011 10:56:31
So we've missed out on the signing of Mareaux, I for one am not going to lose any sleep over this.
It seems to me as though Kenny and DC are being very shrewd in the way they are signing any players. Each player has a value, what they're worth in terms of salary and also what will be deemed their future value. The club seem to be looking at these 3 aspects and if all 3 don't fit then there will be no deal. In Mareaux's case, he was not worth the salary he was requesting (due to past injury problems), so in the end he chose a salary elsewhere - which in my eyes proves he is a player who plays for the money and NOT the shirt!!
He would only have been a squad player anyway and i'm pretty sure KK and DC will now move on to their next target on the list.
The bottom line is that Liverpool FC will end up with players who WANT TO PLAY FOR THE CLUB.
Thats 3 3 of our targets now that have slipped away to other clubs, Mareaux, Jones and Young, and all 3 of them chose money, cleary not worthy of wearing the Liverpool shirt.
I expect there will be other targets who will go the same way, so what!! I for one only want players who want to play for us.
I think this summers transfer business is going to turn out pretty damn good.
IKK+DCWT
18 Jun 2011 10:53:55
Just been on the Barcodes site, they are very smug on how they took a player from under the 'bin dippers' noses. All I can say is, thanks very much Barcodes, we are 'Over the moon' as you might say. You are welcome to a greedy, injury prone, average player. Enjoy the Andy Carroll money, oh sorry, you can't, that's in Mr Ashley's bank account!
18 Jun 2011 10:51:58
MONEY MONEY MONEY
i am not unhappy over the proposed transfer of the injury prone french winger sylvain marveaux collapsing, if newcastle are willing to pay him what he wants thats there problem his injury record is almost on a par with owen hargreaves check it out, we could not go into a season relying on him to do the biz every week even for £300 a week, this is a big position for us to fill a key to the success of the team, he is a good player but not better than other players linked to us move on redmen, bob paisleys skids
18 Jun 2011 10:51:39
The reason Marveaux did not join the club is that he wanted more money than the club were willing to pay as he would have only been a bench warmer. I think that KK and DC plus the owners have done the right thing here, dont you think we have enough bench warmers in the team ? We are trying to get rid of the dead wood that are on crazy money not add to it.
Slider
18 Jun 2011 10:49:05
why do I keep reading 'Liverpool look at Zaypata after missing out on Marveaux' ? Clearly two completely different players, stupid people.
18 Jun 2011 10:43:34
It's pretty clear 2 me no one knows who where goin sign it will b shock after shock old way is clearly in motion
Rigg10
18 Jun 2011 10:41:15
lucus barrios is worldclass, hes one of the reasons dortmond won the league. If we want top four this season forget about the nearly men and spend the money. Once we achieve our goal, we can buy anyone, we just need to get that champion league spot. why spend 15mill on average players just to double the money the following year. utd will be looking for title 20. Liverpoll really need to step it up. Sick of watching class players playing for crap teams, and s**t wearing the red colours..... forget championship manager we need to get on whiskey noses toes, he knows kenny will fight thats why they started early. oh and nzogbia is a way better player than downing, even johnson leapfroged him and he was the golden boy at middlesborough.
YNWA, Liverpool till i die!
18 Jun 2011 10:41:05
Marveaux did NOT fail a medical...this is a stupid, irresponsible rumour...He had his medical at Melwood on Wednesday...obviously he also had a medical at Newcastle's facilities yesterday and has now put pen to paper on a deal for them. This timeline is a matter of record...clearly some people actually don't know how to operate a proper internet search OR sift the chaff from the wheat when they do!
Was he our number one wing target? NO! And I dare-say he understood this so has chosen to go to where he believes he will get more play time.
I believe our targets are: Adam, Downing, Dann, Enriquee, Johnson, Wickham and now perhaps Zapata as he would be a serious improvement to our defensive line. These are my guess NOT any amazing knowledge like people on this site pretend to have access to. I also hope we will be in for Mata but actually think we might not. The Liverpool of old is back and none of us are ITK FACT!!!
18 Jun 2011 10:39:53
Lesson learnt stay away from bosmans, Cole, Poooulson, Javanovic are prime examples. They are only interested in bleeding the club dry and getting splinters in there arses.
Curled1
18 Jun 2011 10:38:57
Damien Duff once chose Newcastle over the mighty Reds. Look how that worked out for him!
Good riddance to the French Harry Kewell (Sylvain Marveaux). I for one did nt want you to sign
18 Jun 2011 10:38:12
The medical does not lie. Marveaux would of been a ricky signing that could see LFC sign another player that will deliver little due to injury.
18 Jun 2011 10:35:10
To all the people that are having a wine and proclaiming that no body on this site knows anything. All transfers are subject to the player agreeing to the terms of the contract.
To that end Marvaux would have signed for us if he agreed to the terms. However what looks more likely with hindsight is that he wanted more money than the club wanted to pay him.
How can the Eds, or anyone at the club even KK and DC know that the player will turn down the contract.
So please stop the moaning about Marvaux to the Eds. This player was clearly not going to start in the first team anyway.
Most of us would prefer the likes of Mata. Perotti, Payet, Honda, or to a lesser extent Downing.
There is a long way to go til the start of the season so nobody panic.
Vinnie LFC
18 Jun 2011 10:33:12
people here who claim to know reliable sources know f!@king nothing. they didnt know henderson was going to sign , they didnt know bout zapata wen all of a sudden he emered as a transfer target, most of them even macca and eds said that marveaux is going to sign and people claimed to ave seen adam in melwood....all bulls**t. King Kenny has something ese in plans and he is not going to tell your "reliable" sources nor is he going to leave a list of players he would like to see in anfield under your table . so stfu and post only geniune rumours. PEaCe
CLeO
YNWA
18 Jun 2011 10:32:42
Heads up everybody its a long transfer window, we will still have plenty to be happy about when our dealings are finished, well done to the club for not giving in to another greedy player who has a history of injuries.
18 Jun 2011 10:31:48
To tell you the truth Ed, I think we've come across really badly with the Mareaux situation. If you are going to sign a player, he should be completely researched. To say he failed the medical and/or had a difference with money makes Liverpool look like we hadn't our homework done on him. Surely before a player has a medical, there is some wage structure partially agreed. I know Newcastle came in with more money but again this shows that the player never had Liverpool at heart. With money so precious how could we actually try to sign a player who obviously has no real interest in LFC. I think the Adam deal is making us look like we haven't got the clout to land our favourite players (even though its Blackpools fault).
18 Jun 2011 10:09:24
Just to let youse know expected to see adam johnson on the right winger next season and mata on the left wing.
THA UNKNOW
18 Jun 2011 10:07:20
Will people still stop crying about us not signing marveaux!? Seems a lot of people want us to just aimlessly add to our squad for the sake of it. That ethos has got us lumbered with some very average signings in the past. I bet these were the same people demanding we signed voronin, cole and jovanovic because they were free and now bitch about how poor they are/were. The club are taking a more measured approach now and I for one am relieved to see us pull the plug. Who knows, marveaux may well go on to be a decent PL player but i'll trust KK if he thinks he can bring in a better alternative.... And if you're a true red, so should you!
Chally.
18 Jun 2011 10:06:43
Sylvain what ever his name is, was not good enough to
wear the shirt simple as! i didn't even know who he was.
So dont worry lads whats for us wont go past us.
leave it to the king i trust him he will bring in the right players.
18 Jun 2011 10:06:20
I am pleased that Marveaux has gone to Tyneside-he is not the quality we are looking for to take the team to the next level.
Mata and Johnson are much better targets and are more likely to put the fear of God into our opponents next season rather than someone who is a squad player at the very best. Gone are the days we will pay 60or70k to someone who will warm the bench for five seasons.
On the other hand, we are being linked with class players such as Zapata and Cassano- they are definitely more like it
18 Jun 2011 10:04:01
So Newcastle have signed a player you wanted, even though he was on a bosman free transfer, in other words he will get more playing time at Newcastle, that is a warning to other players wanting to join Liverpool.
18 Jun 2011 10:01:32
This is a great site (top notch infact)
But thetr are too many top names floating around that are possible targets and getting my hopes up
we have already missed a couple of them
Whilst manure chelski and the gooners are spending large and hi-jacking deals along with harry i dont see us selling till we have our targets done and dusted
I'm staying away for a few weeks
See what happens
I have tried this before mind you and it lasts a few hours as i need to know whats occuring :P
I dont mean any offence EDs
Just bored of getting excited for nothing
*54D13R*
18 Jun 2011 10:01:15
Regarding the Marveaux deal to Newcastle.
I'm sure alot of us will be bashing all the people who were touting this is a done deal and he would undoubtebly sign for us on Friday.
But i'm sure we will ALL forget the Eds and Macca's response (Not Verbatim) of anything can happen in football even at the last minute...And nothing is certain no matter who supllies the information, as there are factors beyond the informations control.
Chipkin9
PS: One of the Eds mentioned that the Marveaux deal fell through because he wanted more wages, and it was the same thing with Roma's keeper Doni.
What's worrying is, is that the players fault r the clubs?
What if the club are coming up with insulting figures?
What if the same thing happens with Mata etc etc...Assuming he is bound for us.
Chipkin9
18 Jun 2011 09:59:23
liverpool should sign pato 25 million
18 Jun 2011 09:57:38
I for one am not worried that players we are linked with have, appear to or will sign for other clubs. They do not realise the privilage it is to play for LFC and the support they would receive from the Anfield faithful. Dont want the mercenaries to bleed the club dry again, we want players with passion and pride in the red jersey. We have plenty of young players busting a gut to get into the 1st team. KK and DC will get the right players with the right attitude. Plenty of time left in the transfer window.
18 Jun 2011 09:54:19
Cut and pasted from SSN
Newcastle United have beaten Liverpool to the signing of French midfielder Sylvain Marveaux.
The 25-year-old had appeared on course to sign for the Anfield club, on a Bosman transfer.
But now Newcastle have nipped in to poach Marveaux and offer him a five-year deal which he has accepted.
The left sided midfielder has been Tyneside to finalise the move, which will shock Liverpool who had presumed they had his signature in the bag.
Newcastle looked at Marveaux earlier in the year, but it was presumed they had given up when Liverpool made their move - but that was clearly not the case.
Marveaux is now set to become Newcastle's third signing of the summer, and he is the third French-born player to sign following on from Yohan Cabaye and Demba Ba.
He will officially join Newcastle on July 1st.
Delight
"It's a great coup to have signed Sylvain, who has received interest from a number of other clubs, " said Toon chief Alan Pardew.
"He may not be well known to many of our fans but he is a real talent and a player we have been keeping an eye on for some time.
"It's been a good couple of days for us on the transfer front."
Reports emerged on Friday that Marveaux had failed his medical at Anfield, but he confirmed this was not the case.
"I do not want to go into details, but if I did not sign in Liverpool, because there was a contractual disagreement between the parties Thursday night, " he confirmed to L'Equipe
He wouldn't of got first team football, personally I'm rather glad we didn't sign him.
Peace Out
18 Jun 2011 09:52:49
Sylvain Marveaux has joined Newcastle United, after Liverpool failed to put up a good enough deal for the player.
It is believed that liverpool wanted to pay a part of the wage based on appearances, and marveaux was looking for more in the direct wages.
As long as we get two of Mata/Johnson/Downing, i wouldn't be very disappointed in losing out on marveaux.
w0rd
I'm not dissapointed at all buddy!
Weasel
18 Jun 2011 09:52:46
It seems as though Kk and Dc are taking a more positive approach when signing players. Offering them a lower salary but very high performance bonuses... So players who are either injury prone or who want to get rich as a bench warmer are not going to find the terms very favourable. But thats a good thing as Kk and Dc want resusts from their investments...
Excellent approach i say. The players need to give it their all and LFC will have no problem paying them what they deserve!
Kennys logic YNWA
18 Jun 2011 09:51:23
Heard from a mate that the Clichy rumour is a smoke screen for Gibbs that would be a better signing than Clichy but can't see Arsenal letting him go for anything less than £10 mil
18 Jun 2011 09:51:17
Morning ed
i didnt want to get involved in the marveaux debate thats on here at the moment, however i will say i for one am glad we havent signed yet another injury prone greedy waste of space. He is 25 now and wont technically improve much more. We have been caught out so many times by bad free transfers. Fair play to the Liverpool board for not paying stupid wages! YNWA
LeeWils
18 Jun 2011 09:50:39
18 Jun 2011 09:19:17
Ed, do u think there will be any transfer activity for us over the weekend? Cheers!
{Ed006's Note - Possibly, its hard to tell as we should have signed Adam by now but the Blackpool chairman is playing games.}
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Karl oysten obviously doesnt want to sell to us unless we offer stupid money. He was a prick in january and he still is now. Let adam go elsewhere, we can find better players rather than play stupid games, quick enough to accept spurs bid in jan and would too for utd {Ed001's Note - he doesn't want to sell full stop. No matter how much money is paid for Adam they would have to pay it out on a replacement on higher wages. Oyston is refusing to speak to anyone, even Charlie himself about it!}
18 Jun 2011 09:49:22
It's how things should be but it's becoming more obvious that the media, papers, Twitter and rumour sites don't know what lfc are doing in transfer market. Which means other clubs don't know. It was highly thought on this site a few weeks ago that we enrique, young, , mareaux, jones, Adam, downing, just the names that could be done before July and so far we have signed a unknown target.
18 Jun 2011 09:48:39
Out of interest can someone tell me what barrios is like? Haven't seen any of him like!
In Reply To This..
A cross between Suarez and Carroll..
6.2 FT tall.
Skilfull, Quick, Good in the Air, Good Finisher. Gets goals, and is Paraguayan, you might compare him to Roque Santa Cruz but quicker and better.
JamietheRed.
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So he's nothing like Santa Cruz then? Thank you for clearing that up then. Could you let me know if he is nothing like Demba Ba aswell please? Cheers mate.
MUSHROOM
18 Jun 2011 09:48:32
We have been linked with mainly with left sided players Mata, Downing and Adam Johnson. I am wondering who is going to play on the right. Are we going to play Kuyt or Glen Johnson in that position. We surely are going to have to get someone wide right and I think it will be Jeffren Suarez.
18 Jun 2011 09:47:56
Kevin de Bruyne to chelsea, with them leaving him there for a year?!?!, i thought genk was a feeder club for us, why aint we taking up the option on him 1st ??!!
18 Jun 2011 09:47:37
Why are people moaning about the fact we didn't sign Marveaux. He just wanted to fill his pockets, we have enough of those kind of players at Anfield already, Cole, Jovanović, Poulsen. For all intense purposes these players are about as use full to us as bookends. Do we really need any more?
I think the club has done the right thing, because he is a big gamble, and we could end up being stuck with another player, no one wants to buy. I am sure KK & DC have other targets, DC has spent the last few months flying around the world, and wingers have been on the agenda for a very long time. Ross
18 Jun 2011 09:40:10
Hi Eds
Just like to say well done to the club for letting Marveaux go elsewhere, we are Liverpool and should not let any player dictate to use, because of bad decisions in the past we are stuck with Jovanovic and Cole on huge deals and we cant move them on.I have faith in Kenny other players will be brought in on our terms.
18 Jun 2011 09:37:28
To be honest I think it is a blessing in disguise that Marveaux has not signed for us, he is an average to good player at best and is not what we needed to go places this season.
18 Jun 2011 09:12:18
Ed why are we still chasing very very ordinary players, will we never learn since when has henderson been worth 20 mil carol 35 mil i would sooner bank the money then pull out all stops when a real player comes up. We are still a big club and still have appeal also please stop chasing free transfer cant think of many that have worked for us they are free for a reason especially ones nobody wants so frustraited as a season ticket holder {Ed001's Note - sorry but you might want to try giving the players a chance before you start whining about them.}
18 Jun 2011 08:54:20
Marveaux has signed for Newcastle. Ed: Was he any good? I know he was free, but surely we can get better.
{Ed006's Note - We will get better.}
18 Jun 2011 08:28:33
Morning Ed's,
I'm addicted to this site, however I look at it god knows how many times a day and since I've been looking not one person nore Ed's shown any hard evidence on players. Nobody knew about Henderdon signing until few days before it happened. Everyone said that we had Young in the bag, Jones was coming in and that Marveoux was a definate. Not only are we losing out on our first choice targets, Newcastle have been dealing and signed Players that are better linked than ours. If we can't attract Players like Marveoux then the likes of Mata won't be coming. I really hope I'm wrong, just sketching out that we will over the odds on players like downing who ain't good enough.
18 Jun 2011 09:23:02
Morning eds
I for one am glad he's not coming, I think he was only ever going to be an impact player and I think there are options out there. Hearing strong rumours that two signings will be made by end of next week, Adam and Downing
cheers
Hol
18 Jun 2011 09:20:53
Marveaux has signed for Newcastle because he wasn't offered as much as Newcastle, end of subject.We obviously were concerned about his fitness and wouldn't take a risk on a five yr contract, at the wage he wanted.I personally think it makes sense.The lad looks a good prospect, but he will be no use to the squad if he keeps picking up groin injuries.
Jiminy Cricket
18 Jun 2011 09:34:59
glad marveaux hasn't signed for us. Bosmans always want huge signing on fee and wages. can't even think of a good one for any team let alone Liverpool (maybe mcmanaman for real even tho he was on bench 95% of time). glad he's not gonna be our new kewell, voronin, jovanovic or cole!
18 Jun 2011 09:34:10
Sylvian Marvuex signed in New castle after failing medical in LFC
{Ed010's Note -Morning my "Pool" friends. As you hopefully can appreciate, this subject is "hot" news and we have received hundreds of posts on the subject. It is totally impractical to publish every post from every contributor. This post has been selected at random and I wish to thank you all for the time you took in posting your posts.
I will also post this on the banter page, in order for any discussion or debate, to take place. Cheers Ed10
18 Jun 2011 09:33:48
You guys should be happy we didnt sign Marveaux it allows us to buy better players if he just wanted the money i dont want him to wear our shirt, there are many quality wingers who would love to play for Liverpool Perroti, Mata , Downing this could only mean good news
and the eds do an excellent job and in football no deal is completely nailed on so why do people take it out on them. not a rumour but it needs to be said
Raj
18 Jun 2011 09:32:59
No-one expected Jordan Henderson; everyone expected Sylvain Marveaux.
LMAO - just goes to show journalists make it up and LFC is almost watertight again.
Wickham, Downing & Adam are expected, maybe it's time to expect the unexpected!
18 Jun 2011 09:31:44
So Marveaux failed a medical yesterday but has signed for the Toon this morning? Errr B*ll*x! More like Newcastle outbid and outmanouvered us. The guy is on a Bosman and has taken the best deal on offer. The worrying thing here is DC. He's French and has been involved in this for months. We have to question his capabilities after this ? To have had Marveaux at Melwood for a medical on Thursday means we must have still been in for him so this is not some masterful tactic within a grander strategy and for him to sign for another team within 24 hours is embarassing.
GoNadz
18 Jun 2011 09:26:36
Despite passing medical at Melwood, Marveaux rejected Liverpool offer over a contractual dispute on Thursday night. He has subsequently signed for Newcastle, as the reds miss out...again. Can the ed's or Macca shed any light on what the dispute was over, a guess would be that Marveaux was looking for a higher salary as he was coming in on a free? However why would he have a medical before agreeing terms, perhaps Newcastle came in at the last minute and offerred 70k a week. This coming after Pardrew said in the press that he couldn't compete with wages offered by the top clubs. Looks like we have been done on this one, Marveaux scored 10 goals and made 8 asssits in the season when he was fit and he may not have been in the starting 11 every game but he would have provided ability and strength in depth on our left side - perhaps though he is a greedy mercenary....
18 Jun 2011 09:23:54
i work just outside Liverpool airport and on my way home earlier today i seen Eljero Elia in the passenger seat of a car hopefully we can persuade him to join.
an I 'seen' a flyin cow go over me farm yesterdoy dwn ere in the west country!
18 Jun 2011 09:13:44
I posted udinese info yesterday and stated I knew of 3 players who would be leaving udine in the summer, one was sanchez, one was inler. I can now reveal the other is kwadwo asamoah who will be heading to milan.
I don't expect zapata to leave udinese as theywould prefer to keep him for next season, however udinese are a selling club and if we meet the 15m price tag they will ley him go. I don't expect this will happen
Rewflo
18 Jun 2011 09:06:31
marveaux signed for newcastle , delighted because he is not up to liverpool standard and we didnt need to invest 40,000 a week on someone on the injury list, really happy and now i can see us getting top quality players for the liverpool way.
Y.N.W.A
18 Jun 2011 09:04:28
18 Jun 2011 02:07:30
Sylvain Marveaux's proposed free transfer to Liverpool is on hold after his medical showed up problems with his groin injury.
The 25-year-old missed most of last season following a groin tear.
He has signed for Newcastle.
Rossi46
18 Jun 2011 08:59:50
Well, well. There's a turn-up! (and yes we all know what I'm talking about) Now can we have less of the pointless 'Hey Eds, what are the chances out of ten?' questions, please?!
Seeking professional help, to try and reduce the amount wasted time I spend refreshing this page. As Denise Mina might say: When will there be good news?
18 Jun 2011 08:59:28
Don't normally post but marveaux has signed for newcastle so we can look elsewhere for a winger maybe mata or johnson
18 Jun 2011 08:58:47
Any news on maybe signing Matty Jarvis we were highly linked with him before the end of the season I think he would be a great asset and he is well suited to FSG's transfer policy
Cheers A-man
18 Jun 2011 08:56:33
marveaux gone to the geordies anything to say super macca
18 Jun 2011 09:10:12
It doe not surprise me that Sylvian Mareux has failed his medical.On closer inspection, he has missed a total of 73 games in the last 2yrs due to a "groin" problem.
Charlie Adam - simply not good enough for us
Downing - same
If we are wanting the crop of British talent why dont we utilise Raheem Sterling - only 16 but surely good enough to give a few "minor games" to.
i personally would loan out Jonjo, Spearing, Flanagan and would hope we pursue - Defour, Long, Sanchez
The jury is still out on big Andy and unless we get some quality wide players he will be as about as much use as Air Miles are to Dennis Berghkamp.
18 Jun 2011 08:55:24
Morning all, so with the news this morning that Marveaux has signed a 5 year deal with Newcastle I think one conclusion can be drawn. Nobody on this site, posters or Eds has the first clue what is going on at Anfield. Dont take this the wrong way please Eds because I love the site and the banter is superb and you do a great job but all this talk about contacts at the club is nonsense. Nobody is doing any more than making educated guesses. Still love it so keep it up
Thanks
Chris in Tamworth
18 Jun 2011 08:53:12
Today just about sums up why you should never put a 100% true next to your rumour.... About as shocked as anyone to see marveaux sign for the toon but hey, that just means now our back up winger can be downing, with mata first choice ;)
18 Jun 2011 08:49:46
Sylvain Marveaux has gone to Newcasle because Adam Johnson and Juan Mata are Liverpool bound
18 Jun 2011 08:49:15
Well it seems we were all fooled by the marveaux signing. And i for one am glad we havent signed him. There are alot better wingers out there even if it was gunna be a free. Proves hardly no1 knows wtf is going on...its all good! Zapata to sign. Quality defender and will put skrtel to shame. Shabba
18 Jun 2011 08:48:12
Just read on a major sporting website, Sylvain Marveaux has signed for Newcastle.
I for one am actually quite glad as it allows us to pursue targets such as Adam Johnson and Juan Mata that should hopefully help us to push for this seasons target of a top four finish.
Heres to FSG getting the cheque book out!
18 Jun 2011 08:46:04
18 Jun 2011 02:06:25
Out of interest can someone tell me what barrios is like? Haven't seen any of him like!
In Reply To This..
A cross between Suarez and Carroll..
6.2 FT tall.
Skilfull, Quick, Good in the Air, Good Finisher. Gets goals, and is Paraguayan, you might compare him to Roque Santa Cruz but quicker and better.
JamietheRed.
Post in Rumours Please. Cheers Ed(s).
18 Jun 2011 08:39:08
The media make my blood boil - Adam to choose Lfc over man u because of 1st team chances!!!
Argggggg!! R they havin a laugh, scholes has retired n hargreaves released, so more chance of fletcher, giggs n carrick keepin him out than Lucas, gerrard, meireles or Henderson?
Media so pro sc*m it makes u sick.
Jimbob
18 Jun 2011 08:38:37
I see Marveaux is fit enough for Newcastle...
18 Jun 2011 08:35:36
To all of those who said marveux is joining this weekend FACT!! he has just signed for Newcastle. He was a back up option if kk's other bids fail.... This could hopefully mean Mata or corzola deal maybe close
First time poster cheers eds great site
18 Jun 2011 08:34:27
Sylvain marveaux will not be moving to liverpool he has signed a five year deal with newcastle and will joint them on the 1st of july. Another winnger we aint getting.
Tim YNWA
18 Jun 2011 08:33:57
i'm getting really angry at the fact we are losing out on good players like phil jones marveaux and we are gunna end up with downing and jarvis or something, i just hope kenny produces some class signings which i trust he will :)
{Ed006's Note - Jarvis and Downing are much better players. Just because a player is foreign doesn't make them good. Look at Poulsen, Adam is better. Jovanovic, Downing is better.}
18 Jun 2011 08:29:14
Marveaux failed medical at Liverpool, Newcastle have now signed him. Glad club are not taking risks we have too many players who suffer constant injuries, we don't need any more. Source SSN
18 Jun 2011 08:44:35
18 Jun 2011 02:06:25
Out of interest can someone tell me what barrios is like? Haven't seen any of him like!
In Reply To This..
A cross between Suarez and Carroll..
6.2 FT tall.
Skilfull, Quick, Good in the Air, Good Finisher. Gets goals, and is Paraguayan, you might compare him to Roque Santa Cruz but quicker and better.
18 Jun 2011 08:43:54
What's going on with our negotiating? First Doni backs out after not being able to agree terms (although the deal may be back on) - and now Marveaux has signed for Newcastle after citing problems with our contract offer. Are we being too cheap in our offers to foreign players? It's hard enough that we don't have Europe to offer!
18 Jun 2011 08:43:53
Looks like Newcastle have beaten us to Marveaux; according to BBC website. I have never seen him play, so not sure if that is good or bad. However, with him and Demba Ba, Newcastle will surely have their fingers burnt when it comes to injuries.
18 Jun 2011 08:42:36
Been reading that the French lad we where signing on a free has gone to Newcastle
My guess it's because he's a winger and for some reason we just want 10 or centre mids
On the other hand our track record with free player is very poor over the last few years so mite be a good thing
Red weedon
18 Jun 2011 08:41:37
Sylvain Marveaux has signed for Newcaslte and states that he didn't fail a medical and it was a contractual issue!
Sylvain Marveaux! Tell me one person that has had a medical before agreeing terms for a transfer eh! You failed your medical! NUFC good luck
Its obvious to me that Newcastle will only get free transfers! The £35m they from the Andy Carroll sale will be used to pay the wages! Hence the risk on Sylvain Marveaux.
18 Jun 2011 08:28:16
Newcastle United have beaten Liverpool to the signing of French midfielder Sylvain Marveaux.
The 25-year-old had appeared on course to sign for the Anfield club, on a Bosman transfer.
But now Newcastle have nipped in to poach Marveaux and offer him a five-year deal which he has accepted.
The left sided midfielder has been Tyneside to finalise the move, which will shock Liverpool who had presumed they had his signature in the bag.
Newcastle looked at Marveaux earlier in the year, but it was presumed they had given up when Liverpool made their move - but that was clearly not the case.
Marveaux is now set to become Newcastle's third signing of the summer, and he is the third French-born player to sign following on from Yohan Cabaye and Demba Ba.
He will officially join Newcastle on July 1st.
Delight
"It's a great coup to have signed Sylvain, who has received interest from a number of other clubs, " said Toon chief Alan Pardew.
"He may not be well known to many of our fans but he is a real talent and a player we have been keeping an eye on for some time.
"It's been a good couple of days for us on the transfer front."
Reports emerged on Friday that Marveaux had failed his medical at Anfield, but he confirmed this was not the case.
"I do not want to go into details, but if I did not sign in Liverpool, because there was a contractual disagreement between the parties Thursday night, " he confirmed to L'Equipe.
Well thats that then
18 Jun 2011 08:27:59
Although i am ever-so-slightly disappointed, I cant help but laugh at the fact that Marveaux is off to Newcastle after being 'nailed on' by an Ed or few and possibly Macca but I apologise if this is incorrect. What is correct though is that Marveaux WILL be a Newcastle player and therefore you cannot rule out ANY possibility of ANY single player joining a club. Obv, it has to sound realistic, a bit like Aguero to Liverpool? Dont even try and slaughter me now because alot of you are eating your CARP right now........................Marveaux...........Pssh!
Kam
18 Jun 2011 08:25:28
Ssn report sylvain marveaux signed for the magpies. Wats going on I thought he was a sure bet for us. That's now two targets lost. Not a good sign for transfers ahead. Maverick2201
18 Jun 2011 08:25:23
Hi guys just to let you all know marveaux has signed for Newcastle I dont know if thats good or bad?
18 Jun 2011 08:21:00
What happened with Marveaux? Popular opinion is that he failed a medical and yet he just signed a 5 year contract with Newcastle!!!
{Ed006's Note - Contractual disagreement.}
18 Jun 2011 08:21:00
Sylvain Marveaux has signed a 5 year deal with Newcastle!!
So much fo being nailed on to sign for LFC, this just shows the Eds are full of sh*te!!!!
{Ed006's Note - It actually proves that the player wanted more money than we offered and turned us down.}
18 Jun 2011 08:19:53
Hi! No rumour this is just what I think Lfc signings will be including already signed could be like for like
John Aldridge = Andy Carroll
Peter Beardsley= Louis Suarez
Juan Mata = Ray Houghton
Adam Johnson = John Barnes
add in Steven Gerrard and Dirk Kuyt and you, ve got yourself 90/100 goals a season
What do think ...
Kidmillions
18 Jun 2011 08:00:39
Newcastle United have beaten Liverpool to the signing of French midfielder Sylvain Marveaux.
The 25-year-old had appeared on course to sign for the Anfield club, on a Bosman transfer.
But now Newcastle have nipped in to poach Marveaux and offer him a five-year deal which he has accepted.
The left sided midfielder has been Tyneside to finalise the move, which will shock Liverpool who had presumed they had his signature in the bag.
Newcastle looked at Marveaux earlier in the year, but it was presumed they had given up when Liverpool made their move - but that was clearly not the case.
Marveaux is now set to become Newcastle's third signing of the summer, and he is the third French-born player to sign following on from Yohan Cabaye and Demba Ba.
He will officially join Newcastle on July 1st.
Just to show that NO one is in the know regarding transfers you can guess all you want .....
18 Jun 2011 07:56:13
Toon seal Marveaux coup
Newcastle land winger
What happened to this signing? I read on earlier posts that he failed a medical at LFC for his groin injury!
Surely that would mean he would also fail a medical at Newcastle?? Or that SKY SPORTS NEWS would state that he failed a medical at LFC?? Thats two missed players and I have also heard from a friend that the Adam and Downing deals are at a stand still. We have not lodged a bid for Adam and SAF and UTD have so he may be signing for them unless we lodge a firm bid. Also Mcleish wants Downing to stay and will be holding talks with him and his agent to stop him leaving.
Jon LFC
18 Jun 2011 07:52:53
MARVEAUX failed his medical according to the mirror. headline is confusion as marveaux fails his medical.....what is the confusion? surely if a player fails a medical and he's been out all season then the club just dont sign him...remember aquaman? why are we still after him anyway when he has a long term problem with his groin.
as for adam i wonder if there are not better options available? is he really much better than the players we already have? can stevie g not hit a good free kick or agger or suarez? great job ed's love the site.
18 Jun 2011 07:52:23
jonjo is really good mates with my cousin ,
jonjo has told him the media has probably said who were gonna buy its just a matter of getting the price sorted . jonjo also said he doubts we will get as kuyt gerrard and hopefully 1 of our new signings can all play with one of our 2 strikers he also said alot of youngster will be giving bench time .
The players that are nailed on if the clubs find a price are : scott dann
1st gaiel clichy 2nd enrique
charlie adam
jaun mata
1st adam johnson/ 2nd stuart downing
he also said lfc are finding it hard to get rid of player because there wage demands to other clubs are rediculous .all signings are to be completed by july 1st so the squad gets maximun time together..
redted
18 Jun 2011 07:50:57
before all the eto rumours start here jus need 2 remind every1 that etos wages are probz more than agueros ryt now so dnt be thinkin he kumin 2 us kuz his wages will be well 2 much....if he kums 2 da epl the onli club he going 2 wil b man city kuz ov there mad money
18 Jun 2011 08:17:05
why and how have newcastle beat us to the signing of maveraux?
18 Jun 2011 08:16:56
....Newcastle United have beaten Liverpool to the signing of French midfielder Sylvain Marveaux.
The 25-year-old had appeared on course to sign for the Anfield club, on a Bosman transfer.
But now Newcastle have nipped in to poach Marveaux and offer him a five-year deal which he has accepted.
18 Jun 2011 08:13:19
Just seeing that Marveaux has just signed on a free......for Newcastle.
Fantastic:
Ashley Young to ManU
Phil Jones to ManU
Anyone else a little worries that all are targets going elsewhere?
18 Jun 2011 08:12:28
Looks like Newcastle UTD have beaten Liverpool to the signing of Marveaux!
Not all that bothered as I would have imagined him as being more of a Squad player, more concerned though that we have been pipped to the post again.
Dex
18 Jun 2011 08:11:57
Marveaux has signed for Newcastle - that puts that one to bed !
Source - sky sports
Love the site ! Read it everyday! Love the enthusiasm on here!
As a suggestion - would it be possible to publish the "hit" ratio of some of the posters? I e we will be able to decide for ourselves the valid and true sources .
18 Jun 2011 08:08:56
Further news on Marveaux, loiks like he's signed a five year deal for Newcastle.
Shame... I think he's a good player, but he is injury prone. May be a bullet dodged.
Aje
18 Jun 2011 08:08:46
Well I hope that marveaux is rubbish because turning us down for newcastle is embarassing.
Another transfer poached by someone else.
Now I think macca is right, we will only sign british players from lesser teams because when a second rate french player snubs you for newcastle its clear your stock is low in europe.
Mr E
18 Jun 2011 08:03:44
to allow newcastle to sign mavereaux after what seems like an eternity of rumour that he was to come to lfc must mean we have a better alternative lined up, thank god for that i had never heard of him hopefully a johnson and mata are the players.
18 Jun 2011 07:49:23
Marveaux gone to Newcastle instead of us, mmm what's going on there then? How come our transfers seem so slow compared to others? Not going to say have sources, but seen lots of big flash cars around melwood, how many deals do you believe to be close and who? Cheers
18 Jun 2011 07:48:17
So Marveaux has joined Newcastle. So this means he has passed a medical at Newcastle. Which means he never had a 'failed' medical with us.
I don't even think we were ever interested in him. If we had made an offer for him, why would he chose Newcastle over us?
We're just going to buy British. That means we will sign Downing, Adam, Dann and Wickham.
{Ed006's Note - He wanted too much money.}
18 Jun 2011 07:46:07
Marveaux has signed a 5 year deal with Newcastle! So we can end rumours of this player joining
18 Jun 2011 07:46:01
Not really a rumour but an observation. Meireles was earlier being linked to Inter and now Eto is being linked to the EPL. Would there be any chance of this happening?
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Why would we need eto?
18 Jun 2011 07:46:01
my first post but ive been reading the site for a while and this transfer has just confirmed what i thought!well done eds Sylvan Meareux has gone from a 9 to join reds to joining newcastle!!!
18 Jun 2011 07:44:53
Marveaux joins Newcastle United on 5 year deal.
Who the f*ck saw that one coming?!
18 Jun 2011 07:42:42
marveaux has joined newcastle and not one of you including all the eds saw this coming what a load of rubbish you all have been talking
Deano
18 Jun 2011 07:42:24
newcastle have just signed sylvain marveaux on five year contract so he wont be at anfield next year apart from playing against us, thank god cos he is useless, , , , , ,
18 Jun 2011 07:40:58
Sylvian Marveux will sign by tommorow
{Ed006's Note - 0/10}
18 Jun 2011 07:38:03
how did we get gazumped by newcastle for sylvain marveaux
18 Jun 2011 07:35:03
marveaux joined newcastle last night so every1 was wrong i thought you lot said he had a medicle at anfield last night ?????
18 Jun 2011 07:08:42
Hi, just been jogging around Stanley Park and bumped into former Liverpool midfield hero Jan Molby! Apparently KK is looking for back up for Stevie G in case of any injuries and with the Adam transfer not done and dusted yet he has told Jan if he can lose 5 stone by the start of the season he will sign him on a 10 year contract. (If anyone on here know's Jan you will not be surprised if I tell you he wasn't jogging himself, he had just got 3 sausage Mcmuffins and was looking for a quiet place to eat his breakfast).Does anyone have more news on Ken Aguero?
(Great site Ed's I am totally addicted)
18 Jun 2011 05:45:39
Kopites,
Quick question for an American Red over here. In your opinion, what's the most reliable newspaper for transfer talk? Guardian, Daily Star..etc? If either of those are complete trash, I apologize! It's nearly impossible for me to gauge who's accurate across the pond.
Cheers boys
JCS
18 Jun 2011 05:37:31
Taylormade refers to Chuck Taylor of basketball and the company that makes them is Converse which was huge in America before Nike came along
wot are you on converse are good sellers only to the brits whom come over here ther as cheep as Gola lol
18 Jun 2011 05:17:17
not a rumor but i did see a note on the rumor page a few weeks back from someone about the new liverpool film about our champions league final, does anyone know when its out or have a good link to down load it? cheers and great site eds
18 Jun 2011 02:57:22
Just to clarify on the Lucas Moura "bid". It is coming from a brazilian internet site called lancenet [dot] com [dot] br. It states that we have put a 20 million DOLLAR "bid" in for Lucas Moura. That comes out at roughly 12 million POUNDS.
For 12 million pounds.. thats a bargain from what I've seen of him.
T-Dog.
18 Jun 2011 02:43:18
Is everyone being realistic? Charlie Adam to come and Raul Meireles to go? Adam or Meireles? I know which one i'd have and its not Adam!
18 Jun 2011 02:42:16
just a thawt eds and hope u post it to see wat the fellow liverpool fans think....robbie fowler is the best finisher ever iv seen....how much would that boy be worth nowadays?
18 Jun 2011 02:28:09
Whether he is actually the Reds primary target we will have to see, but what do we know about the Colombian?
Zapata started out life with Deportivo Cali in the Primera A in his native country and his impressive displays got him a call up to Colombian U20 squad for the 2005 World Youth Championships. At the tournament he helped Colombia to the last 16 where they lost outto Argentina.
Impressing a both club and international level, Italian Serie A club Udinese bid for the player, along with his Deportivo Cali club mate Abel Aguilar, and he moved to Italy for the start of the 2005/06 season. Zapata had only played 17 league games back home for Deportivo Cali, and despite being relatively inexperienced aged just 18, he became a regular in the Italian club s side.
After 20 league appearances in his first season, he made 35 starts in Serie A in the following 2006/07 campaign. In 2007 he made his international debut for Colombia and was awarded a new contract in October 2007 to keep him in Udine until the summer of 2012.
Described as a strong, athletic and quick defender, he is also versatile and can play at right back as well as in his favoured centre half position. He also two footed although his right side is his strongest. At 6ft 2, he is a relatively tall defender but has an excellent jump to win a disproportionate amount of headers. He s also an efficient passer and a good tackler.
Named in many Italian football website s team of the season, Zapata is now 24 and beginning to develop into a top class centre half. Only having 12 caps for Colombia may however hamper any move to the Reds as he will need to have played 75% of internationals in the last year to qualify for a work permit, although nobody quite seems to know whether he currently has dual nationality by possessing an Italian passport.
18 Jun 2011 02:19:42
the only british based players who we have been linked with i would take are:
adam no more than 10m
downing no more than 12m
a.johnson no more than 16m
dann no more than 8m
clichy no more than 8m
we shouldnt be held to ransom on these players
abroad:
barrios likely 15m plus jovanovic
lucas rodriques unlikely but over 10m
honda unlikely max 12m
turan there is hope possibly upto 15m
mata a must 22m
zapata quoted between 8-14m
cazorla never worth 18m tops 15m
holtby under 10m
18 Jun 2011 01:39:12
Lucas Barrios has told BVB chairman he wants to join Liverpool. Apparently he is eager to work with Damien Comolli and Kenny Dalglish. Word on the streets is that we will offer £15mil including Jovanovic to the german champions
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would be a good signing if it materialised, just checked his goal scoring record on wiki... pretty impressive!!
eds, there are many rumours lingering round just now, in you opinion - who, other than adam and downing, do you think would suit liverpools way of play (would adapt) out of the main rumoured players?
cheers {Ed001's Note - Adam Johnson, Connor Wickham and Mata. Not necessarily the best players, but I feel they would be able to slot in very easily.}
18 Jun 2011 01:36:41
Man Utds run in next season could not have been better if they had selected the teams themselves .....AGAIN !! Their last 14 games are no brainers .....thats a straight 42 points at the end of the season for them......and theres nothing Liverpool can do about it..........oh and just for good measure they get SUNDERLAND as their last game....oh what a strange coincidence ......!
Add on top of that all the refs theyve got in their pocket.... someone is not playing a straight bat in the FA...........and it happens every year too !
or maybe Im just paranoid about old whiskey nose eh ?
Tel 1949
18 Jun 2011 01:11:33
"Ed009 Blair Mayne? {Ed009's Note - no, I'm not haha. Not sure whether to take that as a compliment or an insult ;).}"
Take my advice Ed009 and take it as a compliment mate, i'm the one who is insulted.
Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed001's Note - personally I was insulted that someone would think I would let you help edit! ;o)}
18 Jun 2011 01:18:18
Rumour has it that Luka Modric is looking for a 'boot boy' to lace his boots. But applicant Jordan Henderson failed to make it as "he is not fit to lace Luka Modric's boots", according to Spurs Manager Harry Redknapp. What's your take Eds? {Ed001's Note - my take is Harry Redknapp is clueless, that is why Spurs are not in the Champions League next season. The only reason he doesn't rate Henderson is because the brown paper envelopes aren't forthcoming. After all. if Modric is so great and VDV is as good as he tells us, Bale is the greatest thing since sliced bread according to him and all these other t'riffic players at his disposal are that good, why couldn't he get them into the top four? Personally I will take Kenny Dalglish's assessment over a no mark like Redknapp anyday.}
18 Jun 2011 01:07:28
So Liverpool are at home to Chelsea on May 5. What are the odds that is when we win the title in front of a certain Spaniard?
18 Jun 2011 00:59:07
man utd side 2011-2012 probert clattenburg jones walton halsey dowd foy marriner mason howard webb martin atkinson . subs blatter platini
18 Jun 2011 00:52:23
I would just like to say that i am both Irish and blonde and after reading Adam's banter, i could have sworn he was describing me. I'm not saying that all Irish and blondes are thick (neither was Adam) just me, some people are so touchy and sensitive.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Ps. My nickname back home, is The Blonde Colin Farrell.
18 Jun 2011 00:31:19
Adam, it was a joke that kinda wasn't taken as a joke by some folk, i'll admit i over reacted myself.But reading your posts since and what Irish Kev and others have said you'd be doing this sight and yourself a disservice if ya change ya name or stop posting, by the reaction its caused is because your posts case always worth reading mate, no one wants to lose em.We aint Utd fans lad, hope ya get ya chin up mate.YNWA mate Jonny Boy
18 Jun 2011 00:26:37
THE FUTURE OF LIVERPOOL FC: 10 PLAYERS WHO CAN LIGHT UP ANFIELD FOR THE NEXT DECADE
ByCraig BloomfieldChris Mendes
Thursday, June 2
Liverpool owners Fenway Sports Group want to assemble a young, athletic squad and the signs are that they may not have to spend big sums to achieve this aim, thanks to a promising crop of young players at the club.
No less than seven Liverpool players are in the England U19 squad for their European Championship Elite Qualifying Round matches in Switzerland this week. This follows the success of young English players John Flanagan, Jack Robinson, Martin Kelly, Jonjo Shelvey and Jay Spearing in the first team last season, under Kenny Dalglish.
Here, talkSPORT takes a look at the players Liverpool fans will be hoping go on to sustained first team success at Anfield
Andre Wisdom
Date of birth: 9 May 1993
Position: Central defender
Need to know: Wisdom moved to the Liverpool Academy at the age of 14 from Bradford City and was part of the side who reached the 2009 FA Youth Cup final. He also scored in last year's European U17 Championship final win for England against Spain. "Andre is an excellent player on and off the pitch, " says Liverpool reserve boss John McMahon. "He is a great talker on the pitch and he is really good in the dressing room before the game so that is why I have made him captain."
JACK ROBINSON
Date of birth: 1 September 1993
Position: Defender
Need to know: Robinson became Liverpool's youngest ever player when he came on as a sub against Hull in 2010 aged 16 years and 250 days. He made two further appearances in 2010/11, putting in assured performances at left-back against Arsenal and Birmingham. "Theo Walcott didn't get a kick against him, " said former Arsenal winger Paul Merson. "I have seen the next Ashley Cole and his name is Jack Robinson."
CONOR COADY
Date of birth: 25 February 1993
Position: Central defender
Need to know: Conor Coady captained England to the U17 European Championship title against Spain in 2010. "He is a good all rounded footballer with a tremendous attitude and sense of leadership, " says Liverpool's 1977 European Cup hero, David Fairclough. "Conor has captained his country [at U19 level] a year ahead of his age group, " said Kenny Dalglish. "I've seen and known these boys for a while now and their progress is really pleasing."
JOHN FLANAGAN
Date of birth: 1 January 1993
Position: Right back
Need to know: After injuries to England right-back Glen Johnson and Martin Kelly, Dalglish was forced to play Flanagan at right-back but by the end of the season he had made the position his own, making seven appearances. "John has surpassed all our expectations, " says Dalglish. "He is not fazed he is going to be an asset for us."
THOMAS INCE
Date of birth: 30 January 1992
Position: Midfielder/Forward
Need to know: The son of Paul Ince, youth product Thomas Ince is more of a creative player than his former England captain father. He's featured for the youth and reserve sides both on the left wing and just behind the striker, while his first senior outing as a late substitute in last season's embarrassing Carling Cup defeat to Northampton was followed by a brief loan spell under his did at League One Notts County. Ince junior featured in six league games there, scoring twice and in October 2010 Liverpool's assistant manager Sammy Lee suggested "his team ethic and work ethic is superb" while his dad lauded him as flair player who "needs to be pushed to express himself".
MICHAEL NGOO
Date of birth: 23 October 1992
Position: Forward
Need to know: A 6ft 4in target man in the mould of Peter Crouch, Ngoo began his career as a Southend youth player where his impressive performances attracted the attention of the Premier League big boys. He won a trial with Man United, but Liverpool were first to cough up the £250,000 required for his services in 2009. Ngoo has since impressed for Liverpool's youth team and England's U19 side and looks likely to make the step up to the club's reserve squad next season. His former youth mentor at Southend describes him as "a coach's dream with good feet and vision".
JONJO SHELVEY
Date of birth: 27 February 1992
Position: Midfielder
Need to know: A goal-scoring midfielder whose progress has developed more quickly than his England U19 counterparts, Shelvey benefitted from the experience of senior competitive football before his big move to Anfield. At Charlton, he entered the record books when he became the youngest player to represent the senior side at just 16, going on to play more than 40 times for the Addicks, scoring seven goals. In April 2010, Rafael Benitez snapped him up at Liverpool for a fee rising to £3.4m and Shelvey has since managed over 20 games for Liverpool's first team in little over a year at the club. One to watch out for next year.
RAHEEM STERLING
Date of birth: 8 December, 1994
Position: Winger
Need to know: The nippy winger may still be 16, but Sterling quickly became the talk of the Kop in February 2011 when he scored five goals in Liverpool's 9-0 youth team mauling of Southend. Kenny Dalglish was watching from the stands that day and must be thinking about breaking him into the first team in the next few years. At just 5ft 5in, Sterling relies on quick bursts of pace and mesmerising step-overs Cristiano Ronaldo would be proud of. He joined QPR as a nine year-old in 2003 and stood out so much for their youth sides that Liverpool paid £600,000 rising to £5m depending on his progess to bring him to Anfield in February 2010. Here are his five goals against Southend
MARTIN KELLY
Date of birth: 27 April 1990
Position: Central defender
Need to know: A Premier Reserve League winner in 2008 and nominally a centre back, Kelly stepped in last season as right-back cover for the injured Glen Johnson and was one of the Reds' best performers until a hamstring injury ended his season prematurely. "Martin's done very well and it's like a new signing for the club, " said Dalglish. "It is impressive when you come into a team that isn't playing as well as it can and you play as well as he has done."
JAY SPEARING
Date of birth: 25 November 1988
Position: Central midfielder
Need to know: Spearing was captain of Liverpool's 2007 FA Youth Cup-winning team, but despite playing against Real Madrid in the 2009 Champions League his chances in the first team under Rafa Benitez were few and far between. A loan spell at Leicester City in 2010 has been followed by an impressive run of appearances at Anfield under Kenny Dalglish, in the absence of Steven Gerrard. This led to Spearing receiving an improved contract and praise from Dalglish: "It's just reward for the performances he's put in and he thoroughly deserves what he's got He's certainly reached a higher level than he has done before." Indeed, at 22, Spearing is almost a veteran compared to the other players on this list!
i think he missed off suso from that list.DORSET RED
18 Jun 2011 00:20:08
{Ed001's Note - what about in the early days? The pre-war titles I mean, I can't remember whether there were any Irish in those.}
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If i'm honest i really don't know too much on it mate!
Bill Lacey played in a title winning LFC team in the 1920's if that counts?
Elisha Scott from the north of Ireland is the one that first springs to mind most especially.
Being that Liverpool has such a strong Irish connection i have to guess there would have been a few more in there at various times.
My first memories of "Irish" Liverpool players were Aldridge*, Houghton* (my personal favourite), Whelan, Staunton & Tony Cousins (you guys probably have never heard of him).
Too young to remember Beglin, Robinson, Heighway & the like (only saw them on tape unfortunately). With the exception of Barnes & Houghton i have to say i thought Heighway was the most amazing winger we've had even though i'm probably slightly biased.
Could do with those 3 now eh?!
Cheers,
Irish Kev. (* = Born & Raised in Britain)
18 Jun 2011 00:14:21
Ed1 said that City may be willing to let Johnson leave once they've found a replacement which they're looking for right now.Would them signing Sanchez be considered a straight replacement for Adam Johnson and possiblly free up a chance of us at least putting a healthy bid in for him. Jonny Boy
18 Jun 2011 00:22:32
"i work just outside Liverpool airport and on my way home earlier today i seen Eljero Elia in the passenger seat of a car hopefully we can persuade him to join."
Sounds like he's been kidknapped!
Surely under new owners we would allow him to have the luxury of sitting in the back of car rather than hiring Davy Liver.
Dirks Engine Room
18 Jun 2011 00:00:54
OIIIII! Suarez's left ball stop hogging all the covers!
Suarez's right ball
18 Jun 2011 00:00:12
This will be my last post under this name. I may or may not post again. However I find it ironic how I'm being bullyed off the site by haters with no sense of humour for apparently being a bully. I thought the
" ;) jkz " was a hint i wasn't being serious. Apparently not. Sorry again if I offended you. I'm not a nasty person. Guess Banter should be changed to "Liverpool Civil Discussions"... Theres an idea Eds ;) In memory of:
YNWA! (Adam)
P.S. Like to thank Blair in particular and Ed1 and Ed2, you guys are my personnal favourite posters. Even If I did have my differences with Blair at the start ;) We both rose above the BANTER!!! {Ed002's Note - I think we will just end the thread with this. You don't need to change names or disappear and we can all move on. Folks are sometimes overtly sensitive - don't worry about it.}
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Sounds like you have booked yourself a one way trip to dignitas there adam, chin up mate, i doubt any of the keyboard warriors would say them things to your face :)
mikey
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Stick with it mate. I enjoy reading your posts.
The Real KB
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No need for the name change, i think keep the name! will all be forgotten about ! {Ed009's Note - it already is Adam lad}
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Adam,
Can't believe it's come to all this mate - seriously now man just don't worry about it!
I'll be fairly annoyed if you stop bothering sharing your posts just because some folk over reacted to your joke earlier - forget about it mate!
I was blonde before it all fell off me head & Irish & i wasn't offended so don't worry what others think - you apologised & if that's not enough for them, that's not your problem my friend!
They need to move on - someone else will say something stupid tomorrow & all your stuff from today will be long forgotten.
Where has the old LFC family spirit gone?
And Mikey, i came up with the "keyboard warrior" thing (i think) so hands off lol!!
Cheers,
Irish Kev.