Liverpool Banter Archive November 18 2015

18 Nov 2015 13:01:30
hey eds as we know BR did not register Texaira in the EL squad but can JK still register him at some point? like maybe after the group stages like when you buy a player in January?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Liverpool has the opportunity to change the registered squad after the January transfer window.}

18 Nov 2015 14:03:09
nice! because that Brendan bloke hade no sense.

18 Nov 2015 14:37:03
This is a bug bear of mine, BR didn't register Texeira in the EL squad because there wasn't space for him. Although Texeira can be added to the squad after January this will only happen if another space is freed up.

This may happen if players are sold in January, if Texeira is promoted above a current first time player or if Texeira is included at the expense of an injured player.

With Danny Ings long term injured Texeira may take his place.

18 Nov 2015 14:51:46
Muscatred- there wasn't space for him because Rodgers picked other players ahead of him. Your post is ridiculous.

18 Nov 2015 15:14:23
Sam, you may claim that you would drop Milner or Lallana from the squad for Texeira but I bet Klopp won't do it.

18 Nov 2015 15:44:02
The problem wasn't Tex not getting registered for the EL group stage squad as such, but more that having picked the likes of Benteke, Sturridge, Frimino, Milner and Lucas, they were given NO game time during Rodgers' time in charge. If he had no intention of playing these players, why not omit one and include Tex? It was poor decision making and management by Rodgers.

18 Nov 2015 16:17:11
AG, he only played two games, who are you to say he had no intention of playing them. Half those guys you mention were injured for those games. I've said this too many times, BR's given you lots of legitimate sticks to beat him with, fill your boots on those. But just give up on these stupid and illogical ones.

18 Nov 2015 18:52:42
I'd have dropped allen for him to be in the squad.

18 Nov 2015 20:27:30
It was poor management. Accept it and move on.

18 Nov 2015 21:28:46
Sam

And so does you not a manager of any team. Drop a CM for an ACM and play Lucas through out the season close to 60 matches.
Brilliant.

BR would have got boots had he dropped any notable name for Tex.

Klopp is just months away from getting abuses on this site. Ed02 was pretty much right on the fans.

18 Nov 2015 22:44:03
Imagine being criticised by Harry haha. Was playing Lucas mentioned? Or have you imagined your own little scenario to suit your argument as usual? Texiera is an attacking midfielder but played many times in the u21s in your fave dlp role where he didn't show well but can play there.

Anyway that's not what's being talked about. Fact the squad was picked excluding texiera. Fact there is no limit to saying he has to pick X midfielders X defenders X attackers.

Obviously a balanced squad is what you want when the squad was picked virtually everyone was fit meaning all the midfielders at the club were available for selection in all of their variable favoured positions meaning someone like Allen who has no defensive skills and no attacking skills doesn't need to be in the squad. he has no place in our squad he doesn't function in any of the roles we use.

18 Nov 2015 23:57:34
Just because it's Harry doesn't mean he's wrong. Everyone bi*ches on this site that BR had too many no 10s. You would drop our second holding midfielder for another no 10. Even if Tex had played there in u21s you'd drop an experienced premier league and International player for an unproven kid playing in his un-favoured role? I bet if I searched the archive I'd find you bleating on about BR playing players out of position, the very thing you're advocating now.

You've made a ridiculous argument and it's one you're only sticking to because you haven't got the character to admit you said something stupid.

19 Nov 2015 00:23:17
STS, you're arguing with harry just for the thrill there. He is right about the squad choice, the balance of the squad was fine. To get Tex in you can't remove a dm, lb or another position because you will just leave that position scarce. It would of meant dropping one of the 'cost a lot of money signings'

Would the owners or fans of been happy with that or did Brendan have the balls are the questions.

You mentioned also about DLP that Tex can civet ky but not very well, what's the point in playing him there then and Brendan would of been slaughtered if it had of gone wrong, yet your condoning it now. laughable.

For the record we do need a DLP that is were a lot of problems in possession come from, none tk split the defence with a great pass. You throw Alonso in the middle, and think of all the games were we dominate possession and think of how much better off we would of been.

19 Nov 2015 02:02:20
Sam is right, Muscat. Your post is ridiculous. You keep making excuses for BR by trying to state what he may or may not have thought by not picking Tex for EL. Nonsense, again! BR's player MISmanagement has been well documented which was one of the reasons he got the boot so don't really care for what his thought process was. Trying to convince us of the contrary by making pointless suppositions as to what he was thinking is just plain desperate. Your boy was a loser and rightly got the boot for his rank incompetence and mismanagement. Get over it and yourself!

19 Nov 2015 02:42:25
Agree on the balance of the squad but he wasn't going to play in the league only the odd games in the cup so why not keep him in the Europa squad where his game at this time is probably better suited? The tough games should technically be after xmas so its could have been assessed then. The fact was BR was clueless in Europe and knew he would need his best starting 11 to scrape draws. Our progression was never going to hinge on the inclusion/ exclusion of one player of 25 ( where as it might in the latter stages) . just begs the question as to what was the plan for him other than 3 odd cups games. down to BR.

19 Nov 2015 07:58:35
Personally I'd have had Texiera in the squad over Chirivella, but that's just me I guess.

19 Nov 2015 08:29:48
Allen offers absolutely NOTHING going forward I've said this for 3 years. I'd have happily dropped him for tex, who as Sam said played deep sometimes for u21's and played well. Not only that, he's not weak on the ball, and has a greater passing range. You are also neglecting Chirivella and Rossiter who can also play those roles, and can play being u21. So we were stocked.

There's absolutely no need to mention Lucas either, that's just strange.

The last part about fans criticising Klop is just one of the most incomprehensible thing's I've seen, not surprising where it came from though given Harry quite comprehensively assured us BR was going nowhere after being kept on in the summer.


Muscat, Ohio is right, you find any way to defend BR, you need to get over it.

{Ed001's Note - I don't get why anyone would defend the EL squad, it was terrible choices by a man desperately trying to keep players on side, rather than making the difficult decisions. There is no way Allen should be anywhere near a first 45 Liverpool squad, let alone 25! He offers nothing, no experience, no effect, nothing but a body on the pitch.}

19 Nov 2015 06:09:04
Sam, Not sure on other names. But he was pretty bang on not playing CAN in the midfield. He is 1 year away from any role in the midfield, whether you like it, admit it or not.

19 Nov 2015 11:02:07
If he had been playing can in midfield last year he wouldn't be a year away. You can't improve unless you get regular game time in that position.

{Ed001's Note - Can is not a year away anyway, ridiculous comment by Harry as usual.}

19 Nov 2015 11:49:44
Totally agree ED, he's good for the most part and will only improve with age and experience.

19 Nov 2015 12:21:31
Loving the concept of Can being liable to make some off decisions in the midfield, so Harry thinks the best way to solve that would be to put him in the defense where there is no cover for a bad decision. Surely if someone is likely to be out of position, fail to make a challenge or lose the ball then you want another line behind them to deal with the fallout?

19 Nov 2015 13:23:45
Hjikle

Where did I claim to play him in the defense. For a player whose biggest weakness is discipline and position would never play at CB nor DM. That much is clear.
If he has no place in the team, then like every other player he should start from the bench.

18 Nov 2015 10:38:53
I know it's not football; but RIP Jonah. Really pulled rugby union to the forefront for me, a legend in what he achieved.

18 Nov 2015 11:06:25
There certainly will never be another one, a beast of a player.

{Ed002's Note - The club have said this morning that Henderson will not be available for another week.}

18 Nov 2015 12:37:47
I hope that was posted on the wrong comment Ed. Jonah Lomu was an absolutely Legend. He was an absolute beast and unfortunately both his career and life have been cut short by a rare Kidney disease. He was at the forefront of Rugby Union when i was growing up an inspired me to take up the sport. RIP.

{Ed002's Note - It was - it was about an injury to Henderson and a statement the club has issued this morning.}

18 Nov 2015 14:08:45
Even though hendo is a beast also :)

18 Nov 2015 20:38:16
Unbelievable player. Such sad news. Will always remember him taking out Mike Catt in the WC. Mike did everything right and still couldn't stop him! True sporting hero, will be sadly missed.

18 Nov 2015 22:19:34
I once heard a Kiwi heavyweight boxer referring to Jonah when he burst onto the scene. He said "Jonah Lomu, he is awesome, with a capital O."
Just imagine how good he could have been if it wasn't for ill health.

19 Nov 2015 07:38:52
RIP, you brought a lot of joy to the game and a true gent.

17 Nov 2015 20:31:09
Ed001 I recall reading a thread about players who nearly signed and it got me wondering, what ones known or not do you feel would have made the biggest difference to us and what ones are you happiest we missed out on?

{Ed001's Note - David Silva was the one we missed out on most of all, I feel, he is a magician. Though Ronaldo is a better player, he would not have stayed long so would have made less of a difference overall.

Pretty much every player that Comolli tried to get and failed with are the ones I am happiest we missed out on. Toivonen, for instance, has shown how completely average he is.}

18 Nov 2015 06:17:38
Comolli still gives out "expert" advice and pops up in shows and highlights his "contribution" to clubs like Liverpool! Joker.

While a lot of Comolli's recommendations were poor, Payet was a player he put forward to Kenny but Kenny chose Downing.

{Ed001's Note - again this crap about Payet, it was not a case of him 'choosing' Downing. Payet had off field issues and the club was warned off moving for him. The whole reason he was available for West Ham to buy was because of his constant problems. Please stop regurgitating crap from Comolli's mouth about Payet, and how Comolli was one he desperately wanted rather than Downing. Comolli was the one who put forward Downing's name, due to his stats being excellent. No idea why this lie is being constantly perpetuated about how he didn't want him. Comolli is a slimy snake who should be ignored.}

18 Nov 2015 08:20:50
I don't get why Downing got such a harsh ride from our fans?
I thought he was bought originally to compliment Carrol, but often KK would sub on off for the other, I never thought he played too poorly when he did play, and in his first season, he had Enrique behind him, who was woeful which really didn't help.
2nd season under BR he was constantly changing position from left back (joke) to right wing, to left wing. Once again I never thought he had a particularly large bad patch, he just never really got on the score sheet, and let's be honest it took Suarez a LONG time to get firing at LFC too.

18 Nov 2015 07:52:36
Also, FSG were dead impressed by the video of downing kicking the balls into the bins!

18 Nov 2015 09:25:43
That's news to me Ed001. The Payet thing I remember from Ed002's comments but is been a while since that happened so it is quite probable that I am remembering what Ed002 has said wrong!

18 Nov 2015 08:17:23
Thanks for the response ed, just out of interest however, how close were we to actually getting silva over the line?

{Ed001's Note - we had a deal set up for both him and Villa which was just waiting on final details and signatures. So very close.}

18 Nov 2015 11:50:30
I seem to remember that, Carroll, Downing, Henderson and Adam were all bought as an attempt to 'Moneyball' the premier league. Downing, Henderson and Adam were the three players who had created the most chances the previous season and Carroll was the player most suited to scoring these chances.

I'm pretty sure Football can't be 'Moneyballed', Baseball can be broken down into statistically measurable and consistent moments, Football is a far more fluid affair with vastly greater variables.

{Ed001's Note - forget moneyball, it is irrelevant to football, just moronic journalists who keep talking about it to make themselves sound clever.}

18 Nov 2015 12:45:55
Oh my, never knew we were that close to signing both Villa and Silva! Why did the deal collapse at the last minute Ed001?

{Ed001's Note - it was a long time ago now, but if I remember correctly G&H pulled the plug as they had run out of money. I seem to remember it being the spark for the war Rafa got into with them.}

18 Nov 2015 14:35:06
Thanks again ed. Never realised it was that close! I seem to recall someone saying that we nearly had benzema signed before higuain got injured. I assume that we had that deal done until that point or was it never that far along?

{Ed001's Note - it wasn't done but it was being worked on.}

18 Nov 2015 17:27:46
Alexis Sanchez is also another one. I will add Ali Deli too. I thought yaya toure was on our radars too.

{Ed001's Note - Sanchez was not another one, he had no intention of joining us sadly.}

18 Nov 2015 23:04:21
I didn't know we were working on Benzema! that would have been interesting. Probably one for the Euro pages but personally though i do like Benz, Higuain was banging them in for RM! I knew about Silva and Villa would have been interesting! I also heard a long time ago similar time we looked at Villa and Silva, we'd also had a look at Alves but again GH didn't have the money, or rather didn't want to spend the money?

19 Nov 2015 08:04:44
You know Benzema is currently sitting in a French jail for trying to blackmail his teammate right?