Liverpool Banter Archive July 19 2012
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19 Jul 2012 22:17:03
Demba Ba is believed to be included in a swap deal for andy Carroll. Daily Mirror.
Oh god I hope not - and how the hell would the Daily Mirror know what LFC are doing - it may be a deliberate leak from Newcastle hoping for something like that to happen - I suppose Demba Ba and 25 million might just be worth it, but nothing less.
John B
And how much would they pay us to take him on?! Looney Toonies newsflash it's not the last day of the window so we've got no reason to be pressured into a stupid move like that. 20m+ take it or leave it. Oh and btw they need us this time bc their cut from a Carroll deal to another team would pay them enough to buy their striker, or ofcourse buying Andy instead would get it done too. Either way they're looking to replace Ba so why would we want to take him.. azkop
There is now way in the world anyone will pay 20mil + for Andy Carroll. His value is simply not that high people. If everyone would take off their Liverpool blinders his maximum value would be 15mil tops. We overpaid for him in the first place and we will pay for it when he moves on.
BrisbaneLFC
19 Jul 2012 21:54:24
Hi eds ( everybody )
I see people saying sell cash in on Suarez
My self I think that's ridiculous do some people know how good he actually is ? His skill passing an ball control is close to the like of Ronaldo messi & xavi his finishing is better than Rooney van Persie ECT his airial skills are as good an Cahill ( Tim great in the air for a small man ) he's a superb all roundplatter agree or notI no he didn't score loads of goals but I think fume will tell, I know there will be haters IG mancs evertonians but haters will hate let them that's alls I can say agree or not?
Thanks
Sponge Bob x
Honestly, I haven't seen to many people (if any!) clamoring for us to sell Suarez. There are, however, those who are being realistic and saying it could well happen.
From my perspective, I'm actually a bit ticked off at him. He knew quite well what he was doing bringing the whole affair up again the other day and it puts the owners in quite a crappy position.
Putting it another way-
Let's say your manager's manager tells you to absolutely not talk about something and you do anyway. Is the proper response for them to:
a) give you a huge raise
-or-
b) sack you
So, if this ends up happening (which is entirely possible at this point) please don't be PO'd at the owners/manager, but Suarez himself.
It also doesn't exactly help drive his value to us on a sale up with him (and his good buddy) acting this way as now it's a bit more obvious to anyone paying attention that his presence may not be exactly desired at Anfield next season.
Great player? Yes. Utter knobhead? Also yes.
Totally agree luis is one of the worlds top ten footballers, it d be personic to sell him
There is no doubt he is a fantastic player, but a better finisher than Rooney or RVP? No chance, too many times he was wasteful.
I wouldnt like to see him playing against us anyway hes our best asset on the pitch at the minute.redness
I agree with some of it but he isn't commanding in the air, thats just dillusional, and his finishing isn't as good as van persies or rooney or else he would've had 30+ goals last season. i would love him to stay but if we can get 40 million for him then i'll take that. maybe we can get them to take on aquilani as part of the deal.
derryred
Straight swap for Thomas Muller would be the only reasonable trade out I can think of. I don't wan't Suarez to leave but if he does indeed want to leave we would need a player of the same caliber. Maybe we could sweeten the deal and throw in Downing, Cole, and 5 - 10M for Muller and Kroos I would take that trade in a heartbeat.
Coley
Not hard to be better finisher than Rooney ! ..... most over rated Striker in prem !
If Rooney tried to chip the keeper from the halfway line we would have to alert the international space station
He is a great player but he will never be able to relax as every week the press will bring up the evra problem and the pressure on him will be too much , he might choose to go even though we are all on his side we can not change things for him. he missed too many games last season if he would have been on the pitch we might have finished higher and kenny may have still been with us. if he does go we need to replace him with true star players not no marks. red mick tag
Its who follows him as it shows a lack of ambition to some players more so when you have to replace in that time players could be being linked with moves away lets say reina skertl agger lucas they are ambitious what would a player think were trying to sign then
The mancs are jealous because he is a better player than any one they have got and if whiskey nose had him he would fight to keep him at the club instead of still staring the s*** like he has today suarez interview was in his own country so whats the problem n he is right the mancs want rid cause they cant handle him mancs think they rule the premier league lets face it how many shady penalties they bin awarded n how much fergie time is added to every game ther not winning
Suarez with the right players upfront with him will be amazing.
Rodgers knows this and is concentrating all his efforts in providing the right players upfront.
kidmillions
I agree Suarez is a top player, I had a little giggle when you said he's a better finisher than Van Persie and that broke into laughter when you said he had better arial skills than Cahill. Suarez has scored a few tap in headers my friend. Positioning yes, arial ability, I don't think so.
19 Jul 2012 21:54:57
Pacheco and suso would make a good partnership with somebody behind them.
Lil Red
Either would be best behind a excellent front two, but neither will make it liverpool, suso maybe
Lad, Suso is no striker and Pacheco is not an all out striker.
19 Jul 2012 21:46:42
sell carroll and suarez and sign bent and defoe with 25m spare to sign moutinho
Funniest post ever - Bent and Defoe.......... and people moan about signing Borini, calling him a Chelsea reject, when he rejected them.
2012 - Carrol + Suarez out, Bent and Defoe in
2013 - Hello, Championship!
That's the most mental suggestion ever.
Bent and Defoe!? haha
Got to be a chelski or Man Utd supporter who posted this. person.
19 Jul 2012 21:41:01
Did anyone see the Martin Caceres interview about Suarez going to Juventus? Cant believe he's allowed to say things like that. That has to be some sort of a ''tap up''.
19 Jul 2012 21:35:26
kristoffer peterson has some class, looking forward to seeing him and sterling on either wing, coates and sama coming through, pacheco and suso in the middle, lucas behind and armin hodzic or jerome sinclair upfront.
Also heard we are after mirallas and munian, munian depends on carroll or downing sale and allen will sign by next week, so will dempsey.
Lil Red
Your about 5 years away from anything like that... if they all make it! But they are all very good prospect at this point.
Suso and sterling are definitely ready for chances in the first team
19 Jul 2012 22:22:10
I think the midfielders we should be going for should be out of the below.
S. Defour 10-14 million.
I. Munian. 20-25 million.
R. Elm. 7-9 million.
G. Ramirez. 15-20 million.
E. Banega. 12-16 million.
I. Affelay. 5-7 million.
M. Krasic. 5-6 million.
L. Ocampos. 15-20 million.
Sell
Spearing 2-4 million.
Aqualani 4-6 million.
Adam. 5-7 million.
Downing. 10-12 million.
Eccleston. 2-3 million.
Cole 3-4 million.
I think all the above are still attainable to us even without CL football next season.
Jonesred
19 Jul 2012 22:14:15
If Newcastle want to sign Carrol why not try for Cabaye and Santon.
Both are quality players. Santon could cover the full back positions, and Cabaye is ready made for the midfield. No doubt he would be a great signing for us. I would rate him at the 15 million valuation with Santon at 5 million.
This would be good business for us as we desperately need more creative player in the middle. Newcastle signed him for a bargain 2.5 million last summer, so would be a good deal to them too.
In addition to this if we could sell
Carroll. 20 million. (Cabaye & Santon)
Adam. 5-6 million.
Eccleston. 2-3 million.
Aqualani.5-6 million.
Downing. 10-12 million.
Spearing 3-4 million.
And we bring in.
I. Munian. 20-25 million.
I. Affelay. 5-7 million.
G. Ramirez. 15-20 million.
M. Krasic. 5-6 million.
Cabaye (Carroll swap)
Santon. (Carroll swap)
This would give us a squad of
Reina. Gulasci.
Enrique. Agger. Skrtle. Johnson. Coates. Carragher. Kelly. Santon. Flannagan.
Gerrard. Lucas. Cabaye. Henderson. Afellay. Krasic. Munian.
Sterling. Suso. Coady. Teixera.
Borini. Suarez. Ramirez. Toni Silva. Morgan.
That's a strong squad to compete on four fronts (challenging top four), Europa league, league cup and FA cup. It would also have a lot of creativity, pace, youth and hunger.
If there was to be any other signing, I would personally go for Rasmus Elm who would cost roughly 6-9 million. Quality midfielder with a food range of passing.
Jonesred
The club has no interest in any of those players
Dreamland - massive turn round of players, that is totally not needed.
JOhn B
You are in absolute dreamland if you think Newcastle would offer Cabaye as part of any deal. He is by far their most influential player, would have to be stupid money for them to even consider letting him go!
Stone YNWA.
Is this original post a joke?! Firstly, cabaye would not want to join loverpool in my opinion and is worth to newcastle at least 25m, didnt we learn from carroll THEY DONT SELL CHEAP! They also paid 4.5m. And santon a 5m valuation, more was paid last summer for him, he is young, capped by italy, played in champions league, and again every newcastle player is for sale but only for extortionate prices as most of the key players are tied into long contracts. We need to get realistic and although i want carroll to stay, he must onlynbe worth about 15m?
J red
19 Jul 2012 22:09:27
I very often hear (or read) this ridiculous quote "form is temporary"
Can this not mean good form is temporary?
If I said "form is temporary, mediocrity is permanent" would that be just as relevant?
Chris in Tamworth {Ed022's Note - I say this constantly mate but very few people agree. Gareth Bale is the perfect example for me. He has some good form, and then deemed as World Class. How does playing well for a few games make you 'World Class'. After all, Class is supposed to be permanent, and form is just temporary.}
The full saying is form is tempory class is permanent, it's saying even the best have off days, but as for bale he isn't world class
Good point on Gareth Bale. For me, Spurs probably should probably try to get a ton of money while they can. He looked markedly less impressive last year than in the previous in my opinion.
I agree with both of you. same thing goes for nani if you ask me, as it does for lots of wingers if you think about it.
derryred
Yes I'm fully aware of what the full saying is, what a shame you don't have the intelligence to understand my point
Chris in Tamworth
The old inconsistent winger conundrum?
Don't think Rodgers will be signing any? Thank God!! He's a 2 defensive midfielders man with attacking fullbacks as an outlet. Two players in one there instead of your old inconsistent winger.
kidmillions
19 Jul 2012 22:05:57
eds in regard to to the right back chelsea are interested in , you say lfc would be interested in him should glenn johnson leave. i must admit i had an idea that chelsea would try to sign glenn , amid rumours he wanted to maybe move back south. also it wouldve given chelsea the whole england defence. as far as i know no approaches for him so im pleased about that. godbless 96 all reds steviep62. {Ed022's Note - They seem set on Cesar Azpilicueta I'm afraid.}
19 Jul 2012 22:03:17
Why did fsg appoint KK in the first place if all along they wanted a manager like Brendan so they don't have to spend money, it's obvious they had no plan when they came, once they saw they didnt have the funds to compete with the teams around us they sacked KK. If they expect Brendan to win us the league with £10m buys in the hope they turn good we will be fighting for 6th place for a number of years to come. Also I get the feeling our owners are happy to sell any of our players if the price is right.
I disagree with just about all of that. They appointed Kenny to appease fans and get them re-engaged with the club after Roy. This obsession that Rodgers was brought in solely because he will bring in cheap players is very closed minded. He has a great brand of football and club structure philosophy. In regards to selling players, there may be some truth in that however this is how the business model works. And I believe it can work for the long term. I dont want to see our best players go bbut if we can bring in two quality players for one out then we will position ourselves well for a successful and sustainable future.
Andy K
I think they wanted someone like Rodgers but kk turned them around first season but sadly didn't work out so went to original plan
19 Jul 2012 21:55:08
So Brendan Rodgers classes Fabio Borini as exciting? A player who has played 33 games in 4 seasons. Looks like were in for a real treat this season. Rodgers is small time. David ynwa {Ed022's Note - To be fair, Borini suffered a pretty bad injury and was out a fair ol' while, and then he was also in a reserve side, and then followed by being loaned out for half a season until suffering a different injury. If you work it out, his goals to game ratio is pretty damn good.}
He is also only 21 so how many games do you expect a 17 year old to start, as well at chelsea when your competing with the likes of drogba and anelka and such over the years.
derryred
19 Jul 2012 21:20:29
{Ed022's Note - Hi all. I just wanted to notify you all that there has been a pretty hefty update to the Player Profiles website. This update now allows you, the fans, to upload your own profiles on any player, in any league, in any position. So, now rather than seeing just my own opinion on a player, you can now see other fans' opinions also on those players, as well as dropping a comment and giving your own. This update has taken a fair bit of time and I'm hoping that you'll all use it to the full etc, and just to come over to the site and have a look. - www.player-profiles.co.uk - thanks all.}
19 Jul 2012 19:33:22
Eds is there a chance that skertal will go and if so how much would we be looking at for him and who would we be interested in to replace him ? {Ed022's Note - There is a chance he could go yes, and we would be looking at the 15 million mark I presume, but don't take that as gospel. I've been told that Kjaer would be a possibility.}
19 Jul 2012 18:30:25
Eds do you know why Coady wasn't taken on the North America tour? {Ed022's Note - I'm not sure, perhaps the other posters may know.}
He was away with the England U-19's him and Robinson. So is probably still on his holidays. Suso won the U-19's Euros with Spain, England only got to the Semis. But Suso decided to not take a holiday so he could go to the US with the 1st team.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
He has just been on international duty and the reserves/u18 have games in the uk, not everyone can go to the US
What defines the good players from the great? They want it more.
Jatt YNWA
Coady was pants for the u19s. Championship player at best.
He's not on his holidays he played for the reserves against the US U20s yesterday. Obviously Rodgers doesn't seem to rate him as highly as the other youngsters and I don't blame him.
Martin
He never went on the tour because Brendan thought he was covered in central midfield without him and Rudolfo asked for him to be left behind for the Academy games. Thats all.
19 Jul 2012 18:27:07
Eds, just a quick question, is Borini with the squad now in boston on the tour? cheers {Ed022's Note - No but he will be next week.}
19 Jul 2012 21:12:51
Fed up of all this stalling over transfers Man Utd just go out and buy new players while we just seem to mess about, also cannot believe we buy a player for 35 million and are prepared to sell for 20 eighteen months later, not funny! justice for the 96
How can u complain about the club and the sign off as justice for the 96? Cretin
Totally agree. We just seem to fanny around in the transfer market every season.
Neilp
On accounting principals, it would only be a £4.5m loss, which really isn't that terrible, especially if the money will be reinvested into new players that fit Brendan's system.
Hold on a second because i would prefer BR to spend money when he knows exactly what he wants and there is no way he can do that after a few weeks. i think that in january or maybe next summers window we will get to see some bigger signings.
derryred
Most of lfc transfers are done late in july early august , i do not think they like paying wages untill they have to.
19 Jul 2012 20:47:54
Whats the Rondon situation Malaga have to sell and that boy is a beast, seems purpose built for the prem. There was speculation to the prem but nothing after that. Anyone got info.
Mgy
I hope we have big AC at the club come the start of the season so we won't need anyone....
Red PG
Answer: We will sign Dempsey and Allen and that's it. With Borini that will bring our purchases to a total of about 25 million. We will sell Carroll for 15, Kuyt, Maxi and probably another player. In the end we break even on transfers, lower the wage bill, and hopefully have a more successful team next year (by successful I mean finishing in top 6, and going far in Europa league). While it may seem as though I am being sarcastic, it is a realistic appraisal of the situation, likely transfer business and goals for coming season.
Canada Red.
I have a friend who has done some scouting for liverpool mainly in spain and portugal, but he has also been in the croatian league and italy... He told me couple weeks ago that rondon was scouted heavily, but interst shifted to borini because of malags valuation of the lad, this is also the guy who told me several months ago that liverpool seemed to have an interest in mateo kovacic, but the eds put me in place for stating that so i dont know who to believe anymore. Thx for a great site eds
cheers LFCBear
Carroll is a lost cause he is never going to give lfc what we need , he would be ok in a team of stars who could carry him but we are a team with out a lot of very good player to do that, and therefore is contribution to the game is no good ok he might score some but so would i if it was on a plate like most of his goals are .
19 Jul 2012 20:43:10
I'm looking forward to the new season. Whilst I don't find the names we are linked with exciting, that's because I don't know my football as well as BR. I'm also looking forward to seeing him in charge, as I think he is one of those managers who will be able to discipline average players into playing well in a team and make them look much more than they are - i.e. the team will be more than the sum of the parts. I also think we have some great youngsters who will play more of a part this season.
Br is a young man and lots of people know more about football than him including many lfc fans but he is in the job like it or not , i would like some decent players who give us a chance and the fact that the top clubs are signing proven stars and we are at present signing players who might end up being good should show fsg what is realy required to be up ther with the "BIG" boys. but what ever happens its our club so we give them all the support we can red mick tag
19 Jul 2012 20:40:22
Hey eds quick question? Remember ye other day when fsg put on there website that Dempsey had signed, was that a mistake? Well I kind of gather that it was but I'm just thinking that it whoever put it on there wasn't doing it for fun! Ha the question is how can they get away with putting that on there website when it obviously wasn't true! Ha plus to anyone that thinks we're a team of the past guess again mark my words....... WE WILL GET INTO THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WITH BLOODY EASE!
Camsmack {Ed002's Note - It was nothing more than a mistake.}
19 Jul 2012 20:34:25
I think people arnt realsing the team chelsea will have next year: mata,hazard,marin,lampard,cole,terrry, to name a few
And? What has this to do with Liverpool?
MR EM
Cech, Torres, Cahill, Mierelles, Oscar Essien to name a few more. Doesn't make them a great team just means they spent a lot of money on players and Di Matteo will prob be sacked by Jan.
Red 1
Are you worried - they can only play 11 at a time - same as us.
John B
Chelseas defence is terrible though. Cole is past it now. Terry is awful, Cahill is not much better, Luiz is even worse and they have got no right back.
Are you worried - they can only play 11 at a time - same as us.
John B
Who cares about Chelski? Obviously they will have a bunch of stars and will compete for title. They always do. How is this relevant though??
And? So they have spent yet more millions on magnificent players who will waste away on the bench while lamps, jt and the usual posse start every game.
I dont think people are realising the team liverpool will have next season, borini, allen, dempsey.... sh.t but we will also have suarez gerrard,agger, lucas, johnson, i think carroll will stay. joe cole, aquilani, enrique, all class players then we got youngsters such as hendo, shelv, sterling, coates(i like him), kelly then we got the likes of downing and adam lol. and hopefully are keeper starts being class again. think belllamy is gone
I think people are very aware of the team Chelsea will have next year but this isn't a Chelsea forum.
AD
As long as Terry is in the team they will concede chances every game.
Why are you bothered about Chelsea or any other team?
KJS
They have also lost one of the best strikers the premiership has seen. I think people are underestimating the loss of Didier considering his form even last season for them.
I'm a lfc fan through and through but anyone who says ashley cole is past it now does not know much about football. he proved in the champions league last season and at the euro's with england that he is probably the toughest left back in the world to play against STILL!
s.p
So thats a lot of winger to fill in the 8-1-1 formation he likes to play.
derryred
19 Jul 2012 20:32:23
Just seen Ceceras' interview on espn, Said hes gonna do everything he can to get Suarez to sign for Juventus. He said they are room mates and he says it to him all the time.
Surely this can be classed as tapping up?
Not tapping up. Just wants to see his buddy at Juve. My money is on it happening but perhaps not til January.
If he wants to play with LS so bad, perhaps he will sign for Liverpool? No idea if he's any good though.
Leffeman101
I'd sell for £40m+. Not a penny less. But get the players that Rodgers wants in first, or we will be held to ransom.
19 Jul 2012 20:30:22
Joe Allen has agreed personal terms with LFC...... free to be agreed by both clubs now.
Trini_red
How can terms be agreed, a fee has to agreed between the clubs first before the player can be spoken to.
John B
How can terms be agreed, a fee has to agreed between the clubs first before the player can be spoken to.
John B
That is tapping up my friend, fee needs to be agreed before personal terms are discussed
Fee has to be agreed before personal terms. Didn't you know that?
If you're in trinidad you're unlikely to have sources in melwood or swansea
Actually the club can give permission to discuss personal terms and then continue to discuss the fee after they have been agreed.
Ben
A fee does not have to be agreed. As long as the selling club gives permission the buying club can start talks With the player.
Tapping up is if you go straight to the player without consulting the club. What Trini_red has said is plausible.
Aussie Red
19 Jul 2012 20:21:04
Why do we need Allen when we have suso. Use the money for another addition to the front 3. Schurrle, belhanda, or munain. And then snap up that mirralas definitely worth a go with his buy out clause. Any thoughts Eds or other posters? YNWA
Anyone who bothered going to the nextgen games last season will tell you that both Coady and Suso, whilst both talented, are some way off from being first team squad players. If they are ready, the management will play them, but at the moment they aren't.
19 Jul 2012 20:18:06
watching sly sports and it says that brendan rodgers has confirmed his intrest in joe allen but he has a clause in his contract that he cant sign any swansea players for 12 months unless another club puts a bid in for allen
19 Jul 2012 20:16:25
Apparently swansea have inquired nto boltons Mark Davies, possibly a replacement for allen?
19 Jul 2012 20:11:32
Fulham played a friendly last night against German outfit Lokomotive Leipzig. No Dempsey on the team sheet! Looks like M.Jol is preparing for life without him.
LFC Brasil
19 Jul 2012 20:07:26
Rumours that a deal almost reached for Allen. Liverpool offering player plus cash.
10m plus Spearing permanent or Shelvey on loan
19 Jul 2012 19:53:00
adebayor has now signed for spurs!
19 Jul 2012 19:51:15
junior hoillett joins qpr sly news
alan waddle
No read it again, it says he agrees to join them, not he has signed
19 Jul 2012 19:48:00
Sly sports now reporting that Swansea have approached Bolton for Mark Davies. Similar player to Allen so it looks like they are making plans for his departure possibly.
Leyland Wool
19 Jul 2012 19:42:48
Swansea make approach for mark Davies to replace the Liverpool bound joe Allen. Joelfc96
19 Jul 2012 19:42:01
We've been linked with 2 players from MLS back in may, one of them was Fredy Montero of Seattle Sounders. Just watch him played friendly game against Chelsea, he score twice and showed great display. Any recent news about him Ed? {Ed002's Note - Nothing worth mentioning.}
19 Jul 2012 19:38:35
10m for Dempsey - what a mini-Carroll like situation! I'd pay 10m for Walcott though-hopefully contract talks with Arsneal-as per newspapers-won't go far.
19 Jul 2012 19:35:07
Eds do you think there will be any signings over the weekend or is it hard to tell??
Thanks Daleik
19 Jul 2012 19:33:54
Hi eds and fellow reds! Just wanting to ask a question about a site called livefootballtickets.com. Is this a legit site? If I pay for tickets will I receive them? Any response would be extremely appreciated. Cheers in advance.
Gazman10
19 Jul 2012 19:33:37
- Liverpool Manager Brendan Rodgers is not prepared to meet Fulhams valuation of Clint Dempsey. Their attention will turn to Daniel Sturridge with a bid of £12 million. Due to the age and potential sell on value. Remaining additions to the squad will be Joe Allen, Theo Walcott and Daniel Sturridge. Carroll will only be sold if valuation of £20 million is recouped. Stuart Downing will be sold if £12 million valuation is met. Sterling to break in to first team as Brendan is very impressed with ball skills and attitude. Iggy
And you came by this very specific information directly from the club, or just copy and pasting what's been said ( or guessed ) on this site earlier today?
John B
19 Jul 2012 19:28:57
Hi ED's With Swansea reportedly interested in Bolton's Mark Davies is this a sign that they are lining up a replacement for Allen?
I think you need to ask laudrup because how can the eds know. he could also be trying to bolster his squad.
derryred
19 Jul 2012 19:27:52
cant reveal my source but its genuine and he told me that we're going to make a surprise 5 million pound bid for paul scholes to help allen develop. you heard anything about this eds?
KDIZZLE
Wow weve already had the most immature now we have the most stupid comment today.
Why would we spend 5 million on a has been player to develop a youngster when thats what coaches are for and we have Steven Gerrard.
I think your source was pulling ya pipe mate and to be fair it doesnt sound that hard.
Kopping a feel
Would rather he learned from the master Stevie g than some overrated has been
19 Jul 2012 19:27:32
Hi ED, do you think that after (and if) we sign Dampsey and Allen we won't sign any more player?
I think we must sign another winger.. {Ed002's Note - Much will depend on who leaves.}
19 Jul 2012 18:32:47
Hi eds.
Is it true we are lining up sinclair from swansea after olympics?
Ryan7 {Ed002's Note - I think there might be some interest after the Olypics.}
Sinclair was always going to be target if Maxi left. If Maxi stayed we would have tried to convince him to see out his contract and sign him on a free next year.
No why would we sign him. he is no upgrade on what we have.
derryred
19 Jul 2012 18:24:42
Does anyone seriously think that with signings like dempsey, allen and borini will turn us into genuine top 4 contenders? in my opinion with signings like those we will b battling with the likes of newcastle and dare i say everton for a place in the europa league i'm not being negative just realistic
Your being totally unrealistic about your negativity :)
kidmillions
Well maybe after the first season but in 3 or four seasons time when allen and borini have peaked then maybe we can be talking of title challenges. you need to see the bigger picture.
derryred
You may be right but until Brendan has had the opportunity to get his system drilled into the players, his training regimes and ideologies part of the players mindsets then how can you possibly know who we'll be challenging. Football is not FIFA or FM it works in a hugely different way. Players do not have pre defined characteristics or abilities.
Pacheco for example may flourish under BR or players like Kelly who are well thought of may not. Different kinds of personalities can be affected in so many different ways.
Please just sit back and enjoy the football and leave the players to their jobs. Too many people seem to enjoy the transfer side of it compared to the actual sport itself which just seems crazy to me.
Tokyored
19 Jul 2012 18:21:37
Hi Eds....what happened to interest in Christian Tello? Is it dead. {Ed002's Note - Quiet right now.}
19 Jul 2012 19:20:52
Joe Allen- 6th highest percentage of successful passes in Europe last season with 90.3% only 2% behind xavi, this lad is gonna be class
Agree...he completed over 2000 more passes than our highest player and also more tackles than any of our players!
Which direction were the passes? its said about jack rodwell that hes worth £20m+, hes also nicknamed jack, jack, forward and back!
19 Jul 2012 19:03:30
Hi guys/gals/eds It appears most fans are against signing DEMPSEY reason being his age and sell on value,which would be understandable with any other club but lets not forget we are LIVERPOOL! and are talking about selling a player age 22 who is finely showing his ablity for half of what we paid for him just a few months ago,wouldnt be a bad idea if managers were forced to take some business classes which might save our club a nice few bob going forward (godin)
19 Jul 2012 18:47:07
Hi Eds, brilliant site, keep up the good work...
All I wanted to know is Eds, is if we're still in the race for Isla and Huntelaar
Please reply...
Cheers, JC {Ed002's Note - There is no race.}
19 Jul 2012 18:20:53
According to Opta Stats, Stewart Downing set up 55 shots in the PL last season, though none resulted in goals.
Kez
I like Downing, he was unlucky, had he converted a few of the shots that hit the post/bar earlier on then his confidence would have grew, hope hes still with us next year.
Paul the red
That's cos the bloke shooting was Andy Carroll!
Not most of the time it wasn't, Carroll did not start in all games, a quite a bit of the time he was brought on later on. So don't try and drag us down that path. The other players Suarez, Kuyt etc were just as to blame. We did not deliver as a team last season, for whatever reason. We now have to assess that problem and get over it, and you don't do that by panic buying and selling. We need to keep hold of our top players AC included, and add to them, this maybe impossible but we must try, or we will be left behind. Players do not become rubbish overnight, remember form is temporary.
Downing was too tentative. He was disappointing THE WHOLE SEASON, you don't get lucky if you are not in the right positions or have the right mentality as seen with Carroll and Torres.
Downing was too tentative. He was disappointing THE WHOLE SEASON, you don't get lucky if you are not in the right positions or have the right mentality as seen with Carroll and Torres.
Think Downing w[ll fit in very well with BR style of play. Agree with previous poster he needs to improve his confidence. Might need hypnosis or accupucture.(Or a kick up the backside!)
Think Downing w[ll fit in very well with BR style of play. Agree with previous poster he needs to improve his confidence. Might need hypnosis or accupucture.(Or a kick up the backside!)
I think downings crosses had too much spin on them for the forward, causing them to miss the target. there must be some reason that we didnt convert enough chances. there was plenty. he wasnt that bad at crossing the problem he had was beating the defender to deliver the cross
Well hold on there if you look at our goal return to chances you cannot really blame are wingers for this. i think, at anfield in particular, we spurned 2 golden chances a game on average so we cannot blame the new signings for this which seems to be happening all of the time. end of the day it is a team effort and not any one players fault.
derryred
19 Jul 2012 17:54:59
The results at the end of September will be interesting.
But in August, the beginning of September, October, and the rest of the season won't be interesting?
I don't want to sound like a Brendan Rodgers hater or anything like that , but I would not be surprised if LFC only had few points by the end of September .
Having said that , Brendan Rodgers has my total support regardless of results during this earl;y stage of his LFC career .
EdWood
Well looking at our first 6 fixtures i would expect around 10 points because we have a pretty hard start in:
wba away, man city home, arsenal home, sunderland away, man united home and norwich away.
derryred
19 Jul 2012 17:52:10
Was I the only LFC fan to spend last season trying to defend AC to every Manc and Blue nose I met! He's not great they know it we know it as well, it's our hurt pride talking!
I defended him, whenever he played. I actually believe he should get given a much longer run in the team, instead of off of the bench. We can not afford to sell him on the cheap, because we will not get a replacement so cheaply, Borini and Dempsey don't count as Borini was used as wide man at Roma and Dempsey is an attacking mid.
He has had 18 months to prove himself and he hasnt done it yet. This crap about him not getting a run in the team and coming off the bench is just that , crap! He played 35 PL games, starting 21, which is more than half, of those 21 he started, 17 were full games and 4 were being subbed off around the 75 minute mark.
The fact is he scored 4 PL goals in 35 matches, at a rate of 1 every 9 games. This poor goal return and the fact that he was poor for the majority of the season is probably one of the reasons he is being looked at to move on. He really only has himself to blame for the predicament he finds himself in.
BrisbaneLFC
19 Jul 2012 17:48:00
Rodgers has confirmed interest in Joe Allen . So it looks like andy carroll will be departing and we will be signing dempsey . Rodgers has also said that he will be changing the formation next season in order to get more goals to a 4-3-3.
I don't see allen joining anytime soon if at all.
19 Jul 2012 17:47:12
quick question for ed002 if possible, I am looking for help and advice on american holidays, i am looking to take the missus there next year and we are looking to stop at 3 destinations so i was wondering if you could offer a helping hand as to which states would be most worth visiting as its my 1st trip to america. many thanks
scouse simon {Ed002's Note - Washington, Oregon and California. Keep away from the East Coast where they have that whining accent, the midwest, the south and the deep south.}
What are you looking to do/see, Simon? There's quite a few of us American types on here who could provide some advice, but much depends on what sort of vacation you're looking to take. Visit big cities, see some nature, or head to beaches (such as they are)?
Ed 002 your out of your tits we don't have a whining accent scousers do..............not us
ri red {Ed002's Note - Rhode Island, don't whine? Like a two stroke lawn mower.}
I would go to New York city, Miami and las Vegas. When your in Vegas rent a car and go to LA to check that out too if you want. Culture in NYC , beaches in Miami and party in Vegas perfect trip I'm jealous. {Ed002's Note - There is no culture in NY. LA has few if any redeeming factors. Vegas is a neon hell.}
Haha don't mind Ed 002 the Midwest is Santiago Segurola actually very nice and I would suggest Chicago. The two best states to visit by far though are California, Hawaii. If your looking too relax and love the outdoors then nowhere will beat Alaska :) my favorite place to go {Ed002's Note - I have never been to Hawaii - I do remember some of that old Maui Wowie back in the day.}
Woah woah woah Ed002. Oregon is pretty awful, theres nothing fun there. Go to Washington DC, go to NYC. Boston is amazing. An accent is an accent, the experience you get from being in NYC is unreal. Cali and Washington are extremely nice but its all the way on the west coast so if you want to be in an Airplane for over 14 hours not including lay overs and such, I'd stay stick to the East Coast. If you really wanna go out West, go to Utah or Arizona and travel the forests and explore nature down there. But stop off in New York, NYC is amazing and offers almost anything for you. {Ed002's Note - I was referring to Washington State not DC - which has no redeeming factors at all. Oregon is a green and pleasant land. It takes about 11 hours at most from London to San Francisco or LA and the skip all of the East Coast.}
Obviously the east coast is where you want to be, the west coast is full of rich spambags...Come to Philadelphia and eat a cheesesteak and you will instantly see that its the place to be. Not sure about the whining accents...Im sure you could look past my accent being that I am an extremely handsome young american man ed002....
phillyred {Ed002's Note - A visit to the Kartoffelmuseum is Munich is highly recommended over going to Philadelphia. I am also an extremely handsome american man.}
New Orleans Best Place in America full of great music and Culture , not false like most of the states K.O.B
I agree the west coast is where its at , the Oregon coastline is stunning , i believe its also ware they filmed the goonies
CrAsH
Seems like ED002 is from west coast.
I agree with California and always wanted to go to Portland, Oregon but Washington? ahh... you need to travel some more ED002.
To be completely honest
Minnesota is place to be....Some people really underestimate Midwest but I personally think its a decent place to be. People here are amazingly nice and its Land of 10000 lakes (Anywhere you go in Minnesota, you will find a lake within 10 mile radius).. Mall of America (Biggest in United States) and no Tax in clothing...
Chicago, Illinois is good place too but is very crowded..
And not to forget Miami, Florida.. Must go..
Live-On-Pool {Ed002's Note - I have flown over 5M miles in my life - I am looking to perhaps ravel a little elss.}
NYC has no culture? Silly ed002, you need to live here and tell me theres no culture. This place is amazing, come here or go out west but just dont go down south unless you go to New Orleans or Miami. Everything else down there is rubbish {Ed002's Note - I was born in America and lived there until I was 24. I concede that I like the Village.}
Chicago, San Diego & San Francisco are the places you need to visit:
Chicago - go to a Cubs game for some real american fare, plenty of museums, nice shops for the missus & the food is divine.
San Diego - the best city in the world, enough said.
San Francisco - there is a reason us left coasters call it "the city", and that's because it never sleeps & it is truly a cosmopolitan city with different pockets of the world right in one place but distinctively american.
And if you want to go to Oregon, which is a fabulous state, take a drive up Highway 1 from the city to Oregon, beautiful scenery the entire way.
Stay away from Los Angeles, Miami, New York & Las Vegas.
an american red {Ed002's Note - And I of course consider the Bay Area home.}
Wow, first of all thank you all for the replys it will really help me, were looking for a cultured break, maybe somewere like san franciso ive heard is nice? preferably a 3 stop holiday would be nice, but again i really appreiciate everyones help. thanks ever so much,
scouse simon {Ed016's Note - Go to Canada if you get a chance, Vancouver.}
Simon m8 this is my second try to post... Go to Boston, DC and San Francisco if u can.
Simon mate,
Both coasts have its differences and both have it's attractions.
DEFIN visit California. Be vary of San Fran though, don't walk around in pink. NEW YORK CITY IS ALSO A MUST ALONG WITH LAS VEGAS. Huge musts. When your done partying and stuff, head out to Chicago( my home town) and Louisiana. Montana is current warm and not snow packed. Winter I would avoid it. I live in Georgia right now( work) and must admit that Ed2 is more than right. Nobody here knows if there's even 3 countries in brazil or if Australia has buildings! IT IS AVOIDABLE. But it has it's was to charm you.
AnfieldUSA
19 Jul 2012 17:43:59
Why are people saying theres no point signing Dempsey due to having no sell on value? Surely the idea is to sign players that can get us to the champions league so then we will have more money to sign younger quality players? Or is it just people that like to moan? Red89
Because most people think they are playing Football Manager, that's why.
Some people on this site would moan if we signed Messi. Seriously, the trolls would find something. His hair is too long or he's too small.
19 Jul 2012 17:43:58
i heard rodgers is keen on marseilles andre ayew and rasmus elm anything on those 2?
19 Jul 2012 17:42:27
ed02 further to my rant about cavani etc , could you say if we cant get him , who in the same class could we get , depending on money etc etc ? thanks steviep62 {Ed002's Note - Liverpool have bought Borini already and efforts are being made for Dempsey. If Suarez leaves perphaps someone else will come in. But Cavani, Benzema, Falcau etc., no.}
19 Jul 2012 17:41:19
hey ed i think LFC need a pacey player like all the other top teams have ie MU (young nani rooney etc) chelsea (mata torres hazard marin etc) spurs (bale) man city (augero silva etc) arsenal (walcott ox) so r we linked with any pacey players?
Laughed my ass off when you said Rooney.
BthekingB
Erm Liverpool need Muniain or Griezmann they have pace to burn..!!
Erm Liverpool need Muniain or Griezmann they have pace to burn..!!
19 Jul 2012 17:38:49
Ed's,
Do you know Liverpool's training schedule in Boston? I'm heading down to Boston next week to watch the Roma game and would like to watch some of the training sessions as well. Looking forward to the new season! YNWA
Axeman {Ed002's Note - Schedule no, but I think they are training at Harvard.}
I don't think you can access the training centre, I'm heading there on Monday. There is a competition on NESN website to win two shirts and see them train.
They're definately training at Harvard and it looks like people are watching from the pictures posted. We're planning on stopping by the Harvard Stadium on Tuesday and hopefully we'll see the boys train. Thanks Ed002 and others. If anyone knows the training schedule, please post. YNWA!
Axeman
19 Jul 2012 17:34:06
On a side note can I just say it's a shame that Ledley King has had to retire. When fit I think he was one of the best defenders to grace the Premier League.
All the best to Ledley.
Tristan
LOL one of the best defenders to grace the prem are you drunk or on the funny cigs because king was crap and whats he ever won.
Sometimes it's not just about what you won.
Dedication is a wonderful thing to have.
Tristan
He's held in high regard and hardly ever played. if he had have stayed fit throughout his career he would have been immense.
He won the Carling Cup 2008 - don't knock it
cozinoz
Didn't spurs win something like 70 percent of the games he played. he was a great player and injuries dogged him.
derryred
Ledley king always gave it all,its a shame all his injuries got the better of him.
19 Jul 2012 17:29:32
hey eds this is my first post so please answer what are your views on these players sinclair cavani allen demsey walcott munain and soldado {Ed002's Note - Found by using the search function.}
Sincair probs NO
cavani defo NO
allen maybe
dembsey maybe
walcott probs NO
munian probs NO
soldado defo NO as he has signed a new contract...
19 Jul 2012 17:19:24
Hi eds was wondering if you still think it likely that suarez will leave liverpool this transfer window? All that talk seemed to have quietened down.
{Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}
19 Jul 2012 17:10:18
i don't think it's anything to be sad about or something to be worried about if we only sign borini, dempsey, allen and walcott,
borini, dempsey and walcott could add real quality and creation straight away to an otherwise non creative team at all, last season once got past the half way line we looked clueless,
we have quality in our side already, half of our team last season was playing in it's first season at the club proper, carroll, suarez, henderson, adam, enrique, downing, everyone needs time to settle, most teams don't have half their team needing time to settle,
next season can NO way be as bad, i believe everyone will come on leaps and bounds under brendan, the right coaching and tactics can make anyone play well, i believe brendan is going to be a true leader of men at LFC, i believe after seeing gerrard for England he is going have a fantastic season for the reds next year, so really 4 signings could be enough, especially if joe cole comes back and plays well and shows us the quality he has,
he had a dreadful first season what with getting sent off then going straight into a serious injury and then kenny took over and wanted nothing to do with joe so he basically never got a chance then went to lille and was brilliant, that doesn't happen by accident,
ONWARDS AND UPWARDS redmen, cut out all this negativity, this is a new era under a new manager probably with a new system we may have not seen the likes of at liverpool for a long time, we want to see our team compete, not be happy with mid table, its time to compete !!
Clive5times !!
Walcott will definitely be wearing red next season - it's my guess that it will be the same red he wore last year - Arsenal will not let him go unless it's for stupid money.
John B
We lack creativity??? Ur having a laugh!! We created alot of chances last season...... We just couldn't put ball in the net
Allen is the most creative player of the one's mentioned?
19 Jul 2012 17:03:08
signing allen wouldmake great sense
future midfield of
henderson lucas allen looks good to me
It looks a bit more than good. People who say Allen is rubbish, you obviously havent seen him. And Hendo, cracking player. In CM he runs the game. Lucas, best all round tackler, passer and DM in the prem, close to world class standard and young. That would be a worldie of a midfield, esp with Borini, Sterling, Suarez? upfront, probably not though.
Burnsy
Forget the henderson bit and i might agree. I think everyone is desperately tellin themselves that he is gonna be great in the future but if you really watched him last season he was horribly out of his depth and i just dont see him becomin a top player
Square pegs and circle holes with henderson last season got played in a role which he couldnt adapt too be given the roles of lucas and stevie when stevie wernt there, also had to do spearings job when he played because all he done was run round like a headless chicken in the middle of the park an even when he was playing good it was below average so doing those two jobs dragged hendo backi abit, when played with a player who could play well shelvey for example hendo played pretty well
Hendo has a good touch and a great engine. he pbviously has lots to improve on but people expected too much of him last season, he was 21 and moved away from his home and family to play for liverpool. that is a big step. kenny saw something in him, hodgeson has seen something in him, ferguson saw something in him (as united also had interest in the lad) and now BR has seen something in him. he has got potential and now he has had a seaon to settle in. he plays best as a box-to-box midfielder which suits BR's plans. he can be a great player for us.
derryred
19 Jul 2012 16:57:20
i know little of joe allenbut what little i do know is he is comfy on the ball,good tackler. my question is where would he line up in the liverpool side? alongside lucas with gerrard in advance, or alongisde gerrard in advance of lucas
whats his best position ?
19 Jul 2012 16:56:07
Ok I hold my hands up..... I was on here saying we shouldn't go near Allen from Swansea...... But after watching a few videos of him in action for Swansea then yeah he actually looks really good..... But I'm sticking to my guns on Theo Walcott, he's a headless chicken, just awful n I really hope we don't go in for him at all...... Leave him at a*******s.....Dempsey I'm 50/50 on, he's nearly 30 and costs 10 million when he's out of contract next summer? Give over! Wait till next season n get him on a free instead..... Looking forward to seeing borini in action, great to hear Lucas is back too.... Go redmen
Agreed but still prefer strootman ahead of allen
19 Jul 2012 16:55:36
ledley king;
thanks for the ledley well wishes, it seems ledley was classed as a world class defender not only by fans of teams in this country but fans of teams across europe as well due to the amount of posts on various spurs sites from fans all over, THIERRY HENRY said, he was the toughest opponent and best defender he ever faced, ZINADIN ZIDANE said 'thank god i only ever had to play against him the once'! their is only one true king and that is ledley king! thanks for the nice post's guy's.
one other note ed, what is santi cazorla like, seems we have been strongly linked to the malaga player?
sbn
19 Jul 2012 16:48:28
route one football as long as it's executed well is much more exciting than pass and move
Yeeeah just like those great entertainers wimbledon used to do it!
19 Jul 2012 16:45:59
Mascherano: "Agger rumour? He's a great player, good passing, can score. As a person, he's fantastic. Respectful and committed."
So I'd assume Barca are interested if hes talking?
19 Jul 2012 16:45:54
Am i the only one who can see how over rated Allen is he is like a second Henderson who most of you fans hated but you think Allen will be good?
Hendo is better than allen also Shelvey has more potential starting to get pi**ed of with our dealings.
Am i the only one that's losing the will to live with these bl**dy negative posts?
MR EM
No, MR EM, you're not.
It would be interesting to see the extent to which age relates to negative/positive posts. Any chance, Eds?
Ginger Rodgers
Behave yourself soft lad, have you actually seen him play? he's a crackin player, so frustrating reading the poo that people write
19 Jul 2012 16:44:44
Hi Eds and fellow Reds, Is it me or is LFC TV online a joke its says a year cost £44.99 but you can a month pass for £2.99 pm which is £35.88. Which to me is very daft why pay more unless you get something extra ( which to me looks like you dont) Reason I came across this is becuase its the only way to watch LFC on Tour for the preseason matches or does anyoneknow if it will be on lfc tv channel
Am I missing something here
Thanks
You only get the first 3 months at £2.99 read the small print ;-)
If im not mistaken its only 2.99 for the first couple of months or 3.. then its something like 10.99.. check it out im not 100% sure
Espn r showing the matches in america so it will be not be on lfctv
No not £10.99 after three months its £4.99...
Its on LFC Online (you have to have membership)
The matches are all online not just espn, also on the tv chanel but delayed
19 Jul 2012 16:40:55
James Pearce confirmed last week during a live Echo web chat that there is an agreement in place between Liverpool and Swansea. This is in place for 12 months and can only be circumvented if a player requests a move or is transfer listed. {Ed002's Note - Which makes much more sense.}
Thank god as i don't want Allen or any other Swansea player there just not good enough...
19 Jul 2012 16:37:11
Ed's, does Munain have a release clause of 21M on his contract? (I only ask this as this is the case on FM 12!)
Also, I know we are unlikely to get him, but which clubs are interested?
Cheers! {Ed002's Note - Search function.}
Munian will not be going anywhere until after the olympics...if he goes! besides there seems to be a que and i believe were now behind united, spurs and chelsea?
Behind spurs GET REAL, Liverpool is a bigger name than spurs in Spain. and Chelsea have 15players in that role already
Liverpool is a bigger name than spurs in Spain...
Liverpool are a bigger name than Spurs in every country...in my sporting vocabulary they're not even the top Spurs team! that would be the NBA's San Antonio Spurs!
19 Jul 2012 16:35:13
With Rodgers being confident enough to break his silence of Dempsey and Allen deals, one can only assume that they are extremely close to signing.
19 Jul 2012 16:29:45
In an interview for Sport Bild magazine Kevin Grosskreutz has expressed his desire to play for Liverpool. Do you think he will be good enough and is anything possible?
Thanks. {Ed002's Note - He said Arsenal around Christmas.}
In an interview with the west derby merseymart I stated my desire that I'd like to play for Liverpool........
Dirks Engine Room
You're not good enough Dirk - try Everton
Puzzled
Bit harsh Puzzled....
In fact, I was told that if I lost weight, developed some pace, improved my right foot, developed a left foot, trap the ball, shoot and tackle .... I'd have a future in the game.... Like Charlie Adam!
Dirks Engine Room
19 Jul 2012 16:24:40
Liverpool and Brendan Rogers did not agree a legitimate deal with Swansea, instead it was more like a "hand shake agreement" meaning that Rogers can sign players from Swansea. Rogers only said "I won't sign any players from Swansea" which is just words.
This means the Allen deal can go ahead. {Ed002's Note - If that is the case and the agreement is dishonored I am afraid his reputation would eb rather badly tarnished. And I really can't see it.}
Ed i so hope your right that you think that as i do not want Allen tbh i think he is abit over rated.
And BR should have his name tarnished if he dishonours that agreement i think thats very harsh for him to do that to his former club.
19 Jul 2012 16:24:35
really looking forward to seeing some unseen talent next season like Armin Hodzic - only 16 and 6ft.....................
19 Jul 2012 16:23:24
Dempsey and Allen will both come in, Munian will come in but only if Carroll goes, out the door will be Bellamy, Spearing, Aqua and Downing. We will have a 3 forward line up with Suarez, Borini, Dempsey and Carroll/Munian all competing for a place. Sterling and Suso will make a lot more appearances this season. Also we could be doin business with Barca before August. Come on you reds!
Is that you Brendan - didn't think you'd have the time to tell everyone what your plans are. But at least now we know. It is you isn't it Brendan ?
John B
19 Jul 2012 16:20:31
Eds do you think we'll buy a striker because i dont c Suarez, Dempsy or Borini as a out an out striker? {Ed002's Note - You know who has been bought and who the targets are.}
19 Jul 2012 16:11:09
Borini - Italian international
Mirallas - Belgium international
Dempsey - US international
Walcoot - England international
Are you disagreeing that they are internationals?
19 Jul 2012 16:18:28
Just heard a rumour over in ireland that Rogers is going after James McCarthy from Wigan and Ryan Sawcogoss from Skoke, as Stekal going to Man City, Dempasy deal all ready done 10 million, come d reds
I shall be sorry to see stekal go.
BigBadBen
I shall be even sorrier to see Sawcogoss arrive.
Nice one Ben
Yeh, he was a great player Stekal.
Very good at stekal(ing)
Couldn't help but laugh at this post...good stuff
19 Jul 2012 16:12:16
I have heard that Liverpool have make an enquiry about Alonso from Real Madrid. Joe Allan is a back up for him. If Alonso doesn't sign they will come back to Allen.
Also no interest has been shown for Downing and Adam at this moment!
You just waste your time and my time here by you writing this and me reading it. STOP THE LIES
19 Jul 2012 16:09:38
- - Clint Dempsey wants to join Liverpool as he says he wants to play at the highest level. No mention of how they plan to transport him back to the 80s. Toonarmy
Maybe hes on about challenging for trophys something newcastle havent done since 50s
Well at least LFC have been at the very top , unlike some ...(cough) Toon !
Must admit, that's some decent banter! Could you perhaps teach Sir Alex x how to do it properly?
What a comedian you are ToonArmy. You made that joke up all by yourself didn't you? Oh no, wait a minute you nicked it off Paddy Power's website...how original.
Geordies getting cocky, maybe we have been transported to 1927 instead lad! lol
Chris
Nice one Toonarmy - at least we had an 80's, and a 60's and a 70's, and won a few things in the noughties as well - what was it ?- Inter City Fairs Cup in 1968, not a great record for such a BIG club eh.
John B
Good job he didnt say he wanted to join u lot then cos he wud have to b taken back to the 60s for your last trophy , u finish above us once and think your brilliant but your average at best at least we won yet another trophy , now go back to your own site and read what your cockney run club are up to ..... steve ynwa
Enjoy your one season while it lasts god you lot have come out the woodwork itll be west ham next a team needs to be built with time im affraid you have a selling owner enough said
Dont get mad lads its just the reaction the Geordie wants. I must admit it was quite funny and made me laugh when i read it. Lets just see if they are quite so cocky at the end of their season.
Redbill 16
19 Jul 2012 16:08:44
Any signings will be in the £10-15m range at best, so anybody expecting Cavani, Ramirez, Falcao Hulk etc can forget it . Andy Carrolls expected transfer will start a merry go round of players coming and going. Expect a big bid for Gerrard to come in from Anzhi........EXPECT IT TO BE ACCEPTED TOO ! !
CovRed
Wouldn't suprise me the way BR already ruining the club selling a top player in carroll and getting average players like Borini and Allen in.
Expect a long year ahead.
Anzhi pay ridiculous wages but don't want to pay high fees.
The Russian
19 Jul 2012 16:08:23
Was at an event today with an ex-Newcastle and Liverpool player. He told me that Newcastle have bid £20 million to buy Carroll, with Ashley not prepared to go any higher. Said Carroll was wanting to Liverpool, but not necessarily to join Newcastle, he just wants out after it being made clear he's not wanted. Totally genuine post.
If they had bid 20m hed be having his medical now mayhem 1981
Have to agree with mayhem on this one. I think if this were true we'd already be looking for a new number 9.
Only passing on what I heard, from a reliable source! And he said Newcastle had offered £20 million, not that it had been accepted.
Well for £20m it would have been accepted by now. I bet the reason Ashely wants him is so that he can sell AC again for £35m to Milan in a season.
19 Jul 2012 15:55:45
Hi, a while back there were reports from one on the ed's regarding two members of the scouting team coming over from manchester city to be part of the lfc setup. All has gone quiet since, any update?
Cheers
Glen {Ed002's Note - They arrived weeks ago.}
19 Jul 2012 15:52:16
Any insight please Ed,on current hold up in Stadia decision?Ta {Ed002's Note - There is no hold up.}
19 Jul 2012 15:51:22
We have enquired about Ryo Miyachi from Arsenal today? Rodgers tried to bring him to Swansea on loan. Liverpool willing to pay upto 5 million.
2 hopes of that happening and 1 of thems bob
trev the gooner
19 Jul 2012 15:49:55
Eds, With regards to luis Suarez....
With him bringing up the Evra situation again do you think this could quit possibly be him hinting he wants to leave, as he was told by directors of the club not to mention it again, or do you think he is happy at Anfield
Many thanks Matt {Ed002's Note - Try the search function Matt - this has been covered.}
He is a Liverpool player, under contract - but as BR said, every player has his price if an acceptable offer came in. I personally don't think BR will let him go.
John B
19 Jul 2012 15:48:52
Ok Ed Transfers complex now a days=Agents,etc,etc.But that doesnt escape the fact that others do get their deals done quicker.Without as much-will he/wont he sagas.Going on for all pre season.It always seems LFC's dragged out.Can go back season after season,and it features us.Aswell as that ive mentioned,on a similar line-The sooner Carrolls situations resolved,the better for all concerned.LFC,and indeed everyone can plan ahead
What situation? - did you not listen to BR's interview, there is no issue with Carroll, he is a Liverpool player and like all of the current squad likely to remain that unless a substantial off for him ( or anyone ) comes in.
John B
19 Jul 2012 15:08:45
Hey eds any interest in grosskruetz, said it would be a dream to play for Liverpool and he is most certaintly an upgrade on what we have {Ed002's Note - I doubt it.}
19 Jul 2012 14:53:12
Ed, have the dates of games been changed yet incase we were to get into the EL, as I have bought tickets for Liverpool Vs. Stoke on October 6th, and was wondering will it be changed as there our EL games down for October 4th.
An Dun Red {Ed002's Note - Try the club website - they should be up to date.}
19 Jul 2012 14:47:41
i'm amazed at the scepticism at joe allens possible arrival, this kid is exceptional, watched quite a bit of swansea last couple of years and he is such a good player, he'd walk into our team and would be well worth 10-15 mil, i'm actually amazed that man u haven't shown an interest as he would be ideal for them, quick one on affelay, if he's so good why is he available for such a small fee? i think he's a bit too much of a fairy to hack it in the premier league
antthered
Worth it don't make me laugh he is so over rated.
They have not shown interest because they have good scouts that realize he is so weak and average and would not cut it.
They probably will also laugh when we buy him for an extortionate fee..
Not too sure myself but come on ev one give the kid a chance mayhem 1981
19 Jul 2012 14:39:36
Am i alone in thinking that Brendan Rogers will do nothing to lift our club back into top 6? Yes his swansea side played keep ball well but were very boring to watch, side,side,side back, side side back. As for losing Downing and Carroll for big money, we should be so lucky. Lets be honest, Carroll worth about 10m max and Downing 5m max. We were blind to think K Dalglish had spent well when he splashed 84m on Carroll,Downing,Adam and Henderson. Money wasted in my view and it will be hard to recover from. No im not holding much hope for getting back among the elite and in fact getting back above Newcastle who seem to buy quality for cheap. The 35m we gave them got them, Tiote,Cabaye,Cisse,Santon,Ben Arfa and Ba! I know what package id rather have. Lfc1974
Boring? I thought they were class, made an absolute joke of teams last season in their first season in the Premier League remember. There are better players at Liverpool and with Borini, Suarez, Dempsey and Gerrard as attacking threat i cant see Liverpool being very "boring". If we play to the style of Swansea, Spain and Barcelona then i'll be well chuffed. You have no clue about football mate if you think keeping the ball is a problem, would you rather Liverpool players run around like headless chickens trying to get the ball back after giving it away or would you rather other teams try get the ball off us?
Rocky
I think your mistaken about Ben Arfa there mate..........
STEVE
RED4LIFE
From all the negative posts on here your not alone unfortunately. If Liverpool hadn't signed BR Tottenham would have we're lucky they where waiting for England to take Redknapp. Give the guy a chance please!
19 Jul 2012 14:36:07
May be stupid question,but if there is a bid for a player,could player's club hide it from the player or his agent,if they don't want to sell ?? LFC83 {Ed002's Note - Sure.}
Would a bid from another club not go via the players agent? Dont know really but it would be of benefit to the agent to keep aware of any bids due to his pecentage of any fee. If it works like this then i dont see how a club could keep it quiet from the player.
Redbill 16
19 Jul 2012 14:26:33
I think Santi Cazorla would be a good option for us! He is BR's kind of player and he is spanish for our new tiki taka style! Imagine a front 3 or Cazorla Borini Suarez! Also would be available due to Malaga's money troubles
Cheers
Lee LFC
19 Jul 2012 15:47:32
Hi eds everyone, does anyone know what channel the first pre season game is on?
Cheers rothred.
For us USA reds, it's on Fox Soccer Channel, Saturday at 1pm PDT (or so the DVR tells me).
RDL
19 Jul 2012 15:44:36
Eds
I'm trying to get a handle on how to get Gerrard and Lucas on the field at the same time. BR played a 4-3-3 at Swans and will most likely play that at Liverpool. With the front 3 being Suarez, Borini and Downing/Bellamy(If he stays) or even Dempsey. Who plays in the Middle? Does Lucas play center DM? Does that then push Gerrard out right? Who plays on the left, Aqua, Hendo, Adam? Help me out I have been racking my brain trying to figure out with the players we have how the starting line up would be? I see if Dempsey came in the he plays up top but if we bring Allen in that's another CM or CAM who plays the outside mids? And where does Lucas play once fit??
U have a good point i think gerrard will play on rightside lucas in the middle and left is open.
forget adam he cant play in a 3 man midfield.
agger will push into midfield once we have the ball thats how 4/3/3 works.
gerrard or the left midfielder will be close to the central striker.
adam does not have the qualities to play the ball in a tika taka way.
4/3/3 only works when you are very good on the ball.
Lucas will be cdm with gerrard and someone else in advance of him from what i can tell
------------lucas
------gerrard--adam/aquilani/henderson
I think the same back 4 as lasy year. Gerrard and Lucas play in a holding and defensive mid setup respectivly. Adam, Aqualini as the cam. The forwards would be left to right Suarez, Carroll, Borini/Sterling/Suso. This is based off of who we currently have in the squad.
Coley
Think several others have posted similar things, but assuming Allen and Dempsey are in, a line up similar to the below seems possible:
Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Gerrard Lucas Allen
Suarez Borini Dempsey
Several variants of the above are all feasible, but generically I think that's the idea (my opinion of course). Quite frankly, this would seem a pretty decent side to me.
RDL
First choice will probably be Lucas, Gerrard & A. N. Other (Allen, Hendo, Aquilani, Adam).
Lucas will be the most defensive of the three, the other two will likely have more licence to roam. Which one is nominally to the left or right probably won't matter much, but Gerrard will probably crop up more on the right to exploit his ability to send in deep crosses.
- Something Red -
Ii's supposed to look like this when were on the offensive
....................reina
..........skyrel...........agger........
....................lucas.................
johnson.......gerrard........enrique
................allen.......................
.........suarez..borini..dempsey...
and like this when were on the defensive
.....................reina................
johnson.....skyrtel...agger.....enrique
............gerrard......lucas...............
...................allen........................
........suarez.............dempsey.......
..................borini.......................
kidmillions
Good description kidmillions and I would concur with that. LB/RB had better be prepared to run their socks off tho. Well, guess everyone should since it's all about movement.
19 Jul 2012 15:44:32
I'm a little bit concerned about the prices being touted around for Allen. Although he is a quality young prospect we have to remember he has only had one good season! I would happily sign him as that (prospect) but to be throwing prices of £15m around is ridiculous and I would be dissapointed for the likes of Shelvey, Henderson and Suso with the latter having a fantastic tournament. Surely it is now time to offload Spearing? Lovely lad but not Liverpool class i'm afraid. What you think Ed002? Surely £8m and add-ons tops for Allen.
Hope we don't sign him for 15m, sad thing is that someone like Villa or Sunderland will get him for 6m. Its just because its Liverpool clubs instantly double a players value, its the same for Chelsea and United.
Remember Michael turner who Hull signed for 350k in 2006. Liverpool were interested in the player in 2009 and were quoted 12m, you know what happened Turner eventually signed for Sunderland for 4m. Its because it a club like Liverpool that's interested the likes of Swansea and Fulham, or Hull will look to at least double up a players value. Allen or Dempsey will probably end up been sold to clubs like Everton, Villa, or Sunderland, for about 6m each, their more realistic values.
Kiddo
Allen is a better footballer than all players you,ve just mentioned.
19 Jul 2012 15:44:06
I can't see Walcott being anything more than 12 million. He is in the last year of his contract and was taunted all year by Arsenal fans for not performing.
BthekingB
Seeing as chelsea offered 25mil for him i think your a bit off in your valuation chum
Walcott is not worth £25m!! Chelsea never offered £25m either, he's worth £10m at the most, but he's a terrible player either way so cant see Rodgers going for him when he's gonna buy Dyer next season, would be a total waste i think.
Rocky
If Chelsea offered that much, which I highly doubt, how long left on his contract, 1 year is it. Arsenal would have snapped their hand off
Or chelsea are way off, weve seen what "top english" talent gets you. Thought wed learnt. Lets just keep sticking our hand in the fire and keep getting burnt
Dont believe it. arsenal will get no money and lose a player if thats their asking price
Walcott £25m? You'll be saying Andy Carroll is worth £35m next
Puzzled
19 Jul 2012 15:43:13
Fabio Borini, Joe Allen, Clint Dempsey and Theo Wallcott will be the only signings this summer i'm afraid guy's...
Cheers Tom
"will be the only signings this summer i'm afraid" ...........catch yerself on for christ's sake... clown !
stevie.
LOL
I would love them all to sign..with Downing and Carroll out of cause.
and why does our pre-season games start later than everyone else's when we have a game earliest on 2nd of august?
Brendan Rodgers had spoken about interest in Dempsey and Allen and has also said they we hope to sort out one or two deals before the start of the season which is 2nd August - (he didn't mention any names but i know who I'd guess are close)
so 1 or 2 players in within 12 days.
19 Jul 2012 15:37:45
Lets forget Selling Either of our Centre Halfs or keeper for that matter.Reina had a poor season-relative to the high standards he set himself.He admitted as much.New keeper coach after being unhappy with last should change that.Our defence isnt the problem.And compares well with most.Its the bedrock.Its creativity and pace/drive-middle and wide we lack.Plus an out and out goal scorer.Dont do Souness and throw baby out with bath water.Or we will pay.Build on fairly solid foundations.And lets stop fuelling the rumours of players leaving
19 Jul 2012 15:19:47
Seems like Skrtel wants away - obviously doesn't possess the small club mentality required at the mighty Pool lol
19 Jul 2012 15:08:39
Swans have signed michu according to skysports. Does this mean Allen is coming?
Superfan
19 Jul 2012 15:08:30
Hi Eds,
Any chance of seeing Wijnaldum in the Premier League this year? I realise he moved last summer.
Cheers,
ForzaRed {Ed001's Note - I very much doubt he will move again this summer, probably next summer though, if he does well again this season.}
19 Jul 2012 15:02:17
Skrtel's admitted there are clubs interested in him. 'Offers on the table' was I think how he put it.
Although he has turned into a top CB during the last season or two, and alongside Agger, lets remember he was previously a bit heavy handed at times.
If money is an issue, maybe it makes sense sell him and make Coates the new first-choice CB alongside Agger, with Wilson and Kelly as backup.
But is Coates ready for the step up? And if Kelly covers RB, do we need more CB cover anyway?
It's a big gamble using Coates a first choice starter, but he has to make the move sometimes, and most times he's played he's looked a class act to me.
If we could raise 15-20mill or so from selling Skrtel, we could look to buy a top quality wide player to give more options going forwards.
Who reckons Coates (or even Wilson) is ready for the challenge of being the new starting CB?
I like coates but havent seen enough of him. hes good on the ball, strong, tall. only thing i can him needing work on is reading the game. which is what lucas has learnt to do over the years and has became a class player.
I think Coates should be given a chance. He was young player of the tournament at Copa America and has obvious potential. He will get fed up if left on the sidelines for too long.
We would have to be patient though. For those of us old enough to remember, when Alan Hansen first stepped up he was a liability for a few games. Thank goodness wee didn't have internet forums and 24/7 TV as we might have scared him off.
If Skrtel is to go then so be it and good luck to him. But I do think it's time to give Seb a chance.
KJS
19 Jul 2012 15:01:33
Former Liberty Stadium boss Rodgers has already taken ex-Swansea player Fabio Borini to Anfield and Sky Sports on Wednesday revealed he was lining up another raid.
So buying a player who once was on loan to your old club is a raid now apparently
So he is basically making us into the average swansea side he had....
19 Jul 2012 15:34:37
Anyone else see Sigurdsson scored after coming on as a sub for the yods last night? Bit of a mistake letting that one get away. Andy Carrol will be sold but never mind we will sign Dempsey!!. Look at what the teams above us are signing and who they are linked with and you will see a massive golf between us and 5th place next spring. If it's lack of funds the fair enough I can except that. If it's lack of insight I can't axcept that. I said when the club apointed Woy he was the wrong manager. I said the same of the king. Undecided on BR, at first I thought great apointment, but as the days are passing my hope is slowly passing away. 5th 6th or 7th are all improvementsbut it's not the improvement the club needs. We are falling behind spurs and Newcastle not to even mention the other 4 teams above that. We must make key signings quality players otherwise we cant compete
He scored against Stevenage not Real Madrid !
KJS
Knee jerk reaction much?!
A player scores a goal in a friendly against Stevenage. Give him the Balloon D'or now!
"Bit of a mistake letting that one get away"
...OH BEHAVE !!
Stevie.
19 Jul 2012 15:28:11
Lfc reserves vs usa u-20 score 4-2
goal scorers
bijev,silva,pelosi and hodzic.
This means that vijev is back.-mihir {Ed002's Note - Obviously for the summer all loanees return to their club.}
19 Jul 2012 14:34:08
eds does BR want to keep downing or shift him on? personally im not bothered either way. downing has the ability to perform, last year he didnt. although in earlier games of tge season like the game against arsenal he looked very promising. however at this point, an offer of 10+mill i would sell and put towards getting someone like munian to replace him directly. munian borini suarez up front is very exciting. to all the moaners out there, i bet getting one signing like munian would change your opinions on our transfer market and on BR! players like dempsey and allen would only improve our twam! crackin job on the site eds as well! one of, if not the best rumours site out there. keep it up.
Rab
19 Jul 2012 14:30:26
Liverpool FC are targeting
Dempsey £6-£10m
Walcott £15-£18m
Allen £7m
and are actively trying to sell
Carroll - minimum of £15m - No loan.
Downing - minimum of £12m
15-18 mill.. wouldn't pay over 10mill myself, but hey Rodgers knows a lot more than me, I HOPE, lol
STEVE
RED4LIFE
19 Jul 2012 14:20:47
Eds,
Got any news regarding Kevin Grosskreutz ?
Heard he said he would love to play for Liverpool. Since we are short of winger, is it possible if LFC make bid for him?
And, anything new on Joe Allen n Dempsey?
Thanks Eds.
p/s : Cant wait for LFC 1st match pre-season.
Kimi'LFC
19 Jul 2012 14:20:17
I think this might be the last season for Carragher but that might be a good thing for Wisdom, Sama & Wilson. I don't think either of them are ready yet to take first team responsibilities week in and out but a few appearances here and there will certainly get them ready for the season that carragher leaves.
He only has 1 year left on contract so would agree with that
Carragher shouldn't ever, and I mean ever have got that contract,but I don't think he will get many games for us.He's a Legend but he's a lucky boy pulling in them wages,no wonder Skrtles a bit peeved over his contract,when old father time sits on the bench and his paid top dollar.
19 jul 2012 14:05:20
people dempsey is 29 he has 8 months til he is 30 so can put in a good 2 1/5 - 3 years.
10 Million would be dead money mate with no sell on value.I would rather invest the money on a younger player.We should wait till end of transfer window and offer 5 million.
Not sure why people are moaning about his age, he's a real quality player, i don't hear anyone not happy that steven gerrard will be playing for us next season at every availible game he can and he's over 30 !
age is a number and means nothing if your as good a player a dempsey can be, most the chelsea team are pushing up the ages and just won the champions league and FA cup,
But a good investment to tide us over til the young ones bed in
It's not all about sell-on value.
that is for a kid, who makes good and then either wants away or a crazy offer comes in for him. You don't buy every player with that in mind
Puzzled
19 Jul 2012 14:04:54
2 youngsters we are keeping a very close eye on are M'Baye Niang and Lewis Dunk (the one with the comical own goal against L'pool last year)
We are also tracking Etienne Capoue as another ball winner in midfield who could replace or complement Lucas.
Clint Dempsey will join for £8mil by the beginning of next week.
AZ
19 Jul 2012 14:20:10
No rumour but more of a question for any of the Eds or anyone else in the know!
Any idea on what BR has planned for Suso this year? I was hoping he would get drafted into the first team slowly this year and maybe get some games in the Carling Cup/Uefa?
Would you say he is good enough to be playing first team yet?
I havent seen much of him but from what I have seen, read and heard he does look the dogs!
Yorkshire Kopper
How can anyone know that, Rodgers hasn't even seen him yet
19 jul 2012 14:05:20
people dempsey is 29 he has 8 months til he is 30 so can put in a good 2 1/5 - 3 years.
19 Jul 2012 14:04:54
2 youngsters we are keeping a very close eye on are M'Baye Niang and Lewis Dunk (the one with the comical own goal against L'pool last year)
We are also tracking Etienne Capoue as another ball winner in midfield who could replace or complement Lucas.
Clint Dempsey will join for £8mil by the beginning of next week.
AZ
19 Jul 2012 13:54:12
i would love us to sign shawcross
And to think us Liverpool fans were once considered to be amongst the most knowledgable in the world!
Chris in Tamworth
Mate he only looks good because stoke play a very low line and pack the back. he will be expased at liverpool. also he cannot build attacks.
derryred
19 Jul 2012 13:53:35
Hi Ed i have just read Rodger interview in which he told he want to sign allen and dempsey. And once he signed them our transfer business complete. I dnt thnk so. I hope lfc should sign a quality winger and a striker to replace carol. What do u reckon about this. Do u thnk with allen and dempsey signing our busines over or u expect more arrivals.
Plz any of Ed should response of this.
Thanx. {Ed002's Note - Much will depend on who leaves.}
19 Jul 2012 13:53:22
From previous players stating they are under contract with a club but do have other offers on the table this is usually the better way of saying im going to leave if u let me, and this situation applies to martin skrtel, we should cash in on him while we can we have carra (although his career is coming to the end) coates kelly the youngsters to blood into the team. Hes above average at best and this money can be used for other transfer targets what we need and that is goals. Also i think 15m for allen is way too much i would say 10m is high for a player after 1 season in the prem , we dont need another charlie adam situation.
Rug red
19 Jul 2012 13:50:26
Abit of a weird question really, wondered if a red or a fellow red could help. What is our official club Emblem now, is it the golden Liver-Bird or is it last seasons Red, White and Green one?
Sam Adzii JFT96
19 Jul 2012 14:01:49
koptalk make me laugh :) our non members site is down for updates this has been going on while transfer window is open should have been done with in a week that was june!! but u can join our members site ie pay 10p a day i get the impression they after more money & nothing wrong with their non members site
19 Jul 2012 14:00:53
with all the talk of the difference in play we will adopt this season, did anyone else notice how carra said training was exactly the same as normal? the same as any other pre-season?
just though it was a bit strange as you would think it would be completley changed.
cheers
speedy
Errr, I think what he actually said was there was more ball work and instead of runs and ball work being seperate it was all linked together in 1. He said he didn't want to be disrespectful to past managers by comparing training.
He did not - he was asked is it any different and he said "errrrrmmm, not really no"
19 Jul 2012 13:59:01
just seen JAVIER MASCHERANO in bagels about 10 mins ago (just sprinted back to work to type this) and yeah javier said that he is having talks with liverpool but hasnt talked to rodgers face to face yet as hes in the U.S of A.
what you think liverpool fans?
GINGER DAVE
..and did you see Javiers wife? She did not want to live in Liverpool, maybe divorced? If Javier makes a good job when he is home, I think she is happy, where ever she lives!
Why do people keep spewing out this sort of s**t ? Why does it even get posted ? Pathetic....Unless you have some reliable credible info, keep your childish stupid, dopey comments to yourselfs. Now go and do your homework before you get told off
ReDDaZ
19 Jul 2012 13:58:59
Eds do you know of any out and out strikers Liverpool are interested in? {Ed002's Note - Liverpool bought one in Borini.}
19 Jul 2012 13:54:12
i would love us to sign shawcross
19 Jul 2012 13:53:35
Hi Ed i have just read Rodger interview in which he told he want to sign allen and dempsey. And once he signed them our transfer business complete. I dnt thnk so. I hope lfc should sign a quality winger and a striker to replace carol. What do u reckon about this. Do u thnk with allen and dempsey signing our busines over or u expect more arrivals.
Plz any of Ed should response of this.
Thanx. {Ed002's Note - Much will depend on who leaves.}
19 Jul 2012 13:53:22
From previous players stating they are under contract with a club but do have other offers on the table this is usually the better way of saying im going to leave if u let me, and this situation applies to martin skrtel, we should cash in on him while we can we have carra (although his career is coming to the end) coates kelly the youngsters to blood into the team. Hes above average at best and this money can be used for other transfer targets what we need and that is goals. Also i think 15m for allen is way too much i would say 10m is high for a player after 1 season in the prem , we dont need another charlie adam situation.
Rug red
19 Jul 2012 13:50:26
Abit of a weird question really, wondered if a red or a fellow red could help. What is our official club Emblem now, is it the golden Liver-Bird or is it last seasons Red, White and Green one?
Sam Adzii JFT96
19 Jul 2012 13:38:14
Hey Ed , i heard today that Lucas is meant to be back in training 2 months ahead of schedule , did you hear anything about it? ( it's not from twitter, i dont even look at twittter)
cheers, Zincho
Read the official LFC website! Yes, he's training and it's a cople of months ahead of plan.
Maz
Read the official LFC website! Yes, he's training and it's a cople of months ahead of plan.
Maz
That's true. It's on the Liverpool Website. Should get a run out on the tour.
That's true. It's on the Liverpool Website. Should get a run out on the tour.
Have you not seen the pics on the official site, the training pics, the ones with lucas training with the squad
19 Jul 2012 13:21:52
Zlatan Ibrahimovic ON £220,000 A WEEK that means he can by my house and pay my wages for 3 years in one week, this is why so my clubs struggle.
And people on here say - another one we missed at 15 million - how funny is that?
John B
And people on here say - another one we missed at 15 million - how funny is that?
John B
Totally agree, they're playing football not saving lives. I love football but this is the one issue that really really pi**es me off.
Jud.
That's reportedly after tax. 34 million over 3 years with no tax to pay. Seems a bit excessive, unless he can also find a cure for cancer and develop a formula for world peace while he's there.
Red Steve
Although lfc could never hope to spend the likes of the money manu,barca,ac milan ect could spend,lfc where never shy of putting their hands in their pockets,your neighbours everton and the likes of arsenal and others could vouch for that,last year alone 114mil, never mind 20mil for robbie keane 20mil for aqualani,the list goes on and on so its funny then that all i hear from lfc friends now are complaints about when the new uefa financial fair play rules are coming in and how unfair it is,are you lot serious or are you having a laugh,it must be one of those ironic sort of jokes,i get it now lollollollollollollollol
19 Jul 2012 13:18:41
Does no one else believe that buying dempsey and selling carroll would be a huge mistake? i mean no offence to Dempsey but he is 30 ish he looks good cos he is a big fish in a small pond but in my opinion he is going to be another Adam or Robbie Keane! he is no where near liverpool standard i mean we cant expect to be top 4 if we are relying on him, Where as Carroll is young and based on the last few games of the season and euros he is looking like a quality player and one that will only get better with age and match experience!!!!!
Reallyy? and what was caroll at newcastle?...not a big fish in small pond..common..sell him..not beczo he is bad..its becoz..BR wont play him this season..we play pass and move...and not his style..and if he has another bad season with liverpool...then his price will still decrease.....or pls aski KK why on earth did he signed....
Carroll = 6 league goals in 42 games for Liverpool. 1:7 ratio.
Dempsey = 50 league goals in 184 games for Fulham. 1:3.68 ratio.
Carroll can only get better but I think a lot of people are misjudging Dempsey, and just about every other player we're strongly linked with just because they don't play for a world class team. I'm tired of listening to people say Allen or Dempsey are not good enough and we need to be signing Aguero or Cavani etc... we're not in that league at the moment unfortunately as we don't have "a wee barrowload of money" to spend.
19 Jul 2012 13:09:37
Affellay to Arsenal, Liverpool upping their interest in Walcott.
No substance to the Downing leaving for 12m rumour, he will have another season to prove himself.
Andy Carroll anxious to have his future plans confirmed, sources close to the player say he wants to stay at Liverpool and prove his critics wrong, he feels strong and hopes that he can be a key part of the new regime.
Agger probably wont go to Barca, however I wouldnt bet my house on him staying, im not that sure!
I actually beleive Fulham when they say no approach has been made or is expected for Dempsey. LFC will chase another striker, but there is no solid info as to who they may be looking at.
They are my thoughts.... Ive been right before, lets see
19 Jul 2012 12:58:36
BR has confirmed interest in joe allen but no negotiations are taking place. They are also close to 2 deals. who they are i dont know.
thanks people .
BEN
19 Jul 2012 12:54:08
Hello Eds and fellow readers,
I was doing a little research on BR and his signings for previous clubs. His loan signings (not all of them of course) are what impressed me and how much return he got from them and just how key they eventually became to his system.
I just wondered what anyones thoughts are on BR doing the same at Liverpool for example if he managed to get Tello from Barca on loan? I think it would be a great deal for all parties. What are your thoughts?
Also any other REALISTIC loan signings BR could possibly make??
Thanks
Kam
Personally I'm very impressed with everything about Brendan Rodgers so far. Just before he joined I searched youtube and google for just about every interview or column inch I could find about him. He comes across as focused, professional and a great orator.
His tactical approach is a perfect fit for Liverpool's historic pass and move style. If you google 'Brendan Rodgers tactics' there are some great articles and quotes about how he approaches the game too.
Getting back to your original question though, I can't see him taking on loan any players at Liverpool, he's only loaned players at clubs that don't have the financial clout or status of Liverpool. However his loan targets in the past have been promising so that is a good sign of the type of signings we can expect. Easily his best signing at Swansea in my opinion was Fabio Borini, his impact was tremendous and I think we're in for a treat with him and Suarez next season.
The people we've been confirmed as linked to so far are great and a good sign of the type of player we're targeting. Sigurðsson would have been great for us, shame those horrible b******s at Spurs got him. Allen is a great recycler of possession, he wins the ball high up the pitch and can pass and move. Dempsey has been one of the EPL's best performers in his position for 4 or 5 seasons and Borini is a real hidden gem I think. All the players we're being linked with are just below the radar of the big teams and that's the reason I think Brendan Rodger's is making the right moves. As soon as Liverpool target a high profile player we get shafted. There are plenty of top class players for a fraction of the cost of the Cavani's and Ramirez's of this world. I just don't see the point of buying these players at the top when if you have the right scouting network you can pick them up before they cost £30m plus.
Personally I'm very impressed with everything about Brendan Rodgers so far. Just before he joined I searched youtube and google for just about every interview or column inch I could find about him. He comes across as focused, professional and a great orator.
His tactical approach is a perfect fit for Liverpool's historic pass and move style. If you google 'Brendan Rodgers tactics' there are some great articles and quotes about how he approaches the game too.
Getting back to your original question though, I can't see him taking on loan any players at Liverpool, he's only loaned players at clubs that don't have the financial clout or status of Liverpool. However his loan targets in the past have been promising so that is a good sign of the type of signings we can expect. Easily his best signing at Swansea in my opinion was Fabio Borini, his impact was tremendous and I think we're in for a treat with him and Suarez next season.
The people we've been confirmed as linked to so far are great and a good sign of the type of player we're targeting. Sigurðsson would have been great for us, shame those horrible b******s at Spurs got him. Allen is a great recycler of possession, he wins the ball high up the pitch and can pass and move. Dempsey has been one of the EPL's best performers in his position for 4 or 5 seasons and Borini is a real hidden gem I think. All the players we're being linked with are just below the radar of the big teams and that's the reason I think Brendan Rodger's is making the right moves. As soon as Liverpool target a high profile player we get shafted. There are plenty of top class players for a fraction of the cost of the Cavani's and Ramirez's of this world. I just don't see the point of buying these players at the top when if you have the right scouting network you can pick them up before they cost £30m plus.
Excellent post sir. Nice to see some positive thinking for a change.
19 Jul 2012 12:38:12
Brendan Rodgers turns down loan deal and only wants to sell Carroll. The BBC writes reds will sell carroll for 20mill.
Or should it be will Carroll sell for 20 mill. Once again Newcastles ashley seems to have over a barrel as Liverpool clumsily paint themselves into a corner.
Will Carroll sell for 20mill. Has anyone heard of serious bid interest yet? not just dodgy links to cheap loans and ac Milan or some other unlikey destination, meanwhile Carroll sulks at the thought of moving out of his comfort zone.
The whole thing leaves Liverpool fans cold.
And who said he could go for 20 million - not the BBC or the media I suppose, Elvis is still alive and working in Tesco's.
Don't blame Carroll for media specualtion, has he been interviewed and said he wants to go, has BR said he wants him to go - NO.
BR said everyone has a price - that includes EVERY player at the club.
WTF is wrong with modern day, new age LFC fans.
John B
I blame BR for mentioning the links to Carroll deals like with fulham too often and saying that he wants to keep Suarez but EVERY player can be sold at the mention of carrolls name it's clumsy the old age Liverpool coyness needs a bit of practice from BR. Meanwhile the speculation from the media is set up to make things fall even flatter if no move does come for andy. Andy wants to move because Rodgers wasn't coy he just sent the message out player going cheap even if it was subtly done. - wrong move and no serious bids and a player that wants to leave as a result.
I blame BR for mentioning the links to Carroll deals like with fulham too often and saying that he wants to keep Suarez but EVERY player can be sold at the mention of carrolls name it's clumsy the old age Liverpool coyness needs a bit of practice from BR. Meanwhile the speculation from the media is set up to make things fall even flatter if no move does come for andy. Andy wants to move because Rodgers wasn't coy he just sent the message out player going cheap even if it was subtly done. - wrong move and no serious bids and a player that wants to leave as a result.
You mean what is wrong with modern day internet LFC fans. Some of these utter buffoons have never even set foot in Anfield. They demand instant success with no idea how football really works. Rodgers has been slagged off regularly before we've even played a game. He's slagged off for us being linked with players we may have absolutely no interest in. Ridiculous.
19 Jul 2012 12:29:36
Skrtle skeptical of liverpool future. Any defenders we're linked with if he leaves?
19 Jul 2012 12:29:10
Hi Ed's brilliant site, keep up the good work! Just wanted to relay info regarding Lucas and Joe Allen, Lucas is set to return in the pre season tour after being two months ahead of schedule ( Fantastic news, really missed him last season) and sky sports source says Rodgers has confirmed only interest in Joe Allen at this moment in time.
mozzilfc
19 Jul 2012 12:26:22
Hello Ed002,
can you please explain why so many people are so keen on Allen's transfer? Is he some kind of saviour for this club? Correct me if I'm wrong but we thought that the likes of Downing, Henderson, Carroll, Adam would ensure CL spot last season. Maybe Allen will be great if he comes, but still it is up to the whole squad rather than an individual to ensure wins. {Ed002's Note - Until I complete my plan for world domination I cannot account for individual thoughts. Since last season Liverpool have had problems with the players gelling, with suspensions and injuries and now have a new manager. Allen is obviously his choice.}
19 Jul 2012 15:01:40
Downing, Henderson, Carroll, Adam are all Dalglish signings. Just because they didn't work out as well as expected instantly doesn't mean they won't work out at all and it certainly doesn't mean that every player we get linked with from this day forth will be rubbish. If you didn't get chance to see him play last year then the next best thing is watching some video's of him, then I hope you will see why Brendan Rodgers is showing an interest in him. try this video for starters.
Joe Allen - The Midfield Magician
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nVGBk_lnt0
ED002, This is news to me ! I thought you had completed your world domination plan already ?
tel 1949
19 Jul 2012 12:24:50
Hi Eds & Reds
Liverpool reserves are playing the USA U20s today, was just wondering why it being played "behind closed doors" I also believe the Under 18s have got 2 games coming up at home which are both again "behind closed doors". Can you please shed some light on to why this might be? Truth be told I enjoyed watching the reserves and academy games last season more than the first team!
Any Input would be greatly appreciated.
{Ed002's Note - I can only guess that the costs associated with staffing and policing such games would not be covered by the small income that would come from it.}
19 Jul 2012 12:22:23
11 million for dempsey at 30 years of age is stupid we could get a cracking young player like affelay for less and if we need to sell him later there is a resale value come on its purely because he is american i know he scores 22 goals last season but i think it was a freak season for him how long has he been in the premiership he doesn't score 22 every season were is this exciting player br was talking about it cant be borini cause we know nothing off him .ed really whats going on with the selection of players if you want to play like barcelona do you think that they would buy these type of players???
We could have both? Since when is 30 ancient, if you're fit enough.
A team requires balance, this could be a few experienced players mixed with yoth and people forget the youth we have coming up and it's about time we started growing our own talent too
Dempsey is 4-5 months older than RVP. Nobody is calling him old.
Chi-Paul
If dempsey is a flop then do you really think we will get half of our money back no chance he only has one year left on his contract why 11 million look what united are getting for 20 million rvp
If dempsey is a flop then do you really think we will get half of our money back no chance he only has one year left on his contract why 11 million look what united are getting for 20 million rvp
How old is zlatan again?
how old was sheva?
how old is alonso? (i know you want him back)
Personally I would rather have Dempsey than Afellay. In every game I have seen Afellay play for Barcelona he's been too selfish and frankly hasn't done anything since he moved to Barcelona. dempsey however has been a fantastic player for 4-5 seasons in the Prem. He's scored a lot more goals than Afellay ever has and that's against Premier league opposition, no disrespect intended to Spanish or Dutch teams but the majority of them are not the same quality as the teams Dempsey faces week in week out.
How old was gary macallistair when he was signed to mentor stevie g? no matter how great the talent it still needs nurturing
19 Jul 2012 12:21:50
why dont they make the transfer window 1 month it would make it far more exciting .is anyone els getting totaly pissed off with this window so far it is so slow ,why do you think this is ,i thought liverpool would be alot more involed so far come on liverpool we need better players
Do we need better players, or do we need the ones we have to produce the form they are capable of to justify their transfer fees? - I personally think the latter is true. Downing, Carroll and Adam cannot have another season like that last, Joe Cole and Aquilaini are quality players, imagine them playing to their potential, with no new signings, current players stepping up, great youngsters getting a chance - who needs a transfer window, right tactics, right mentality and effort, BR could have some serious selection problems.
JOhn B
19 Jul 2012 12:15:25
Wen does liverpool start their euro campaign. do they have to qualify or do they go straight into group stage. can any1 help Im want to take my son to a match b4 school starts and im having probs getting info re leverkusen game. cheers {Ed002's Note - Third qualifying round
Draw: 20 July 2012
First Leg: 2 August 2012
Second Leg: 9 August 2012
Play-off Round
Draw: 10 August 2012
First Leg: 23 August 2012
Second Leg: 30 August 2012
Group stage
Draw: 31 August 2012
Match: 20 September 2012
Match: 4 October 2012
Match: 25 October 2012
Match: 8 November 2012
Match: 22 November 2012
Match: 6 December 2012
Knockout Rounds
Round of 32
Draw: 14 December 2012
First Leg: 14 February 2013
Second Leg: 21 February 2013
Round of 16
First Leg: 7 March 2013
Second Leg: 14 March 2013
Quarter-finals
Draw: 15 March 2013
First Leg: 4 April 2013
Second Leg: 11 April 2013
Semi-finals
First Leg: 25 April 2013
Second Leg: 2 May 2013
Final (Amsterdam)
15 May 2013
}
19 Jul 2012 12:07:30
Hi Edds,
Could you please confirm whether we are going to sign every single Chelsea youth player circa 2004-2008 and also whether we may sign all Cristiano Ronaldo becuase BR knows Mourinho doesn't he!?
19 Jul 2012 11:49:58
Just checking premier league awards how does howard web not get a mention? He's been man u 's best player for years and he's homegrown.
Lil Red
19 Jul 2012 11:48:21
a bit of banter
to the tune of daydream believer
when they paid that massive fee
kenny-D was full of glee
he bigged you up and said you had 2 feet
but now they,re skint
they,re after clint
buying old dont cost a mint
now you must go,theres no meet in the scouse
chorus
cheer up andy-c
blame it on fsg
cause they,re day dream believers
and they hired kenny-D
cheer up andy-C
blame it on LFC
cause they,re sad and deluded
and they,re no PSG
Meat - you person dear lord what are we sending these kids to school for?
Andy C
Don't quit your day job, if the secure housing that holds you allows you to have one. More John leslie than John lennon.
Milamber
19 Jul 2012 11:38:21
I have been watching the youth team alot since raheem sterling first made an appearence an i have been blown away by this kid an i think hes well overdue a run in the first team. Anyone who knows a bit about the lad, will know hes lightning quick good feet and excellent skill ! Oh an ofcourse he knows where the goal is! The only thing lacking at the minute is his final ball and decision making at times! Im sure with a run in the first team he will get better because he will get told off if he dosent make the right choice lol... i think we have possibly the next big thing in english football ! Ladies an gentlemen i give you Raheem Sterling!
do any other reds rate this lad as highly as i do?eds?
Woozlfc28
Sorry to burst your bubble, the kid is never going to be world class, we need to stop fooling ourselves, year after there is a new wonder kid coming through. Dalle Valle, Pacheco for example! Sterling will be a good player he may reach parity with Walcott's level, even become an England International, but he will never be World Class. Every so it would do us all some good if we were to take our red coloured glasses off and see the realities and stop been such fantasists.
Truman
Truman I know weve heard it all before with the names mentioned but I think Raheem sterling does look like hes going to be a great player so much so that if he dosent get a game quick he will be asking for a trnasfer and id bet Tottenham allready waiting.
Dear Mr Truman,
May I kindly know on what basis you say that Sterling will never be world class. Also can you please name a few players in their later teens who you are sure that one day be world beaters. I applaud your confidence in trashing a very promising player. Your acute ability in spotting talent would be very helpful to our club. I request you to please consider a scouting position at our club.
Thanks,
oldmonk
ps: ignore all the decency
Sorry mate but no one mentioned he was going to be world class but the lad will be an excellent player for our club! Stop being so negative an go support man city if u want world class players u clown
woozlfc28
Well oldmonk,
Firstly I never said Sterling was never going to become a good player, I just stated that he will never be a World class player. It would do you well to read a post before you comment, should be no problem, you seem to think you are such a smart ass anyway.
Seems you have decided that Sterling is going to be world class, maybe you should be our chief scout, you know which teenage players are going turn out to be world class, offer your services to Liverpool instantly, with you on board the Liverpool team will soon be full of young Messi's, Pele's and Maradona's.The reality sadly is your the red tinted glasses specimen that I was talking about!
Truman
ps: the ass part was right anyway
Sterling has one thing Dalle Valle and Pacheco did'nt have and that is the same ingredient that our senior team hasn't had in a good few years... SPEED. Speed kills defenses and having it makes you look even more ruthless than you are. Remember Torres as his peak before he got hurt, Walcott has this sort of thing that that make defenders soil their drawers too. Even the Mancs have an abundance of speed in Nani, Valencia and Young. It can be very frustrating as a fan because to do things perfectly at speed isn't easy but when it happens and works its beautiful and fluid. Sterling has the makings of a true superstar. He's not ready yet but will get an expanded role this season. We as LFC fans need to be patient with him and adopt him as our darling. That would mean no negative whisper campaign and lumping him in with other players that do not have his skill set.
Chi-Paul
Yeah! Wolcott is world class.Probably second only to Messi.Cheers he will be a red soon.Good days ahead.Well hope you win the league.
roan
19 Jul 2012 11:21:17
With all the "rumours" re: who's coming in and who's going out. Especially from certain aspects of the media, just remember.....
" A lie (rumour) gets half way round the world before the truth has time to get it's trousers on "
Just a thought.
Mr Slonk The Red.
YNWA
19 Jul 2012 11:12:30
I visited my nana this morning and as she was walking to the kitchen to make a cup of tea for me she tripped and fell and as she fell it sounded like she said 'Dempsey will sign today' could this mean anything? ps she is ok just a little shaken.
Most reliable source I've heard on here for a while.
Hope she dusted herself off and made your cuppa. I'd have been parched after that palava
My dog broke wind this morning and I swear to god it sounded like his arse said 'Lionel Messi' - surely this is a reliable source?
Gazman
Hope your nana is ok say hello from the Red fans and tell her she will NWA
Muggitzo
Very interesting that, but as I was putting my trolley back at Tesco, I heard a car jam its brakes on. Believe me the high pitch squeel sounded just like ' Dempsey will sign today', now is that a coincidence or what !
tel 1949
For some reason I can imagine this being a television advert for a sports magazine
19 Jul 2012 11:01:34
hoping to take my son to the leverkusen match.frist time making the trip to anfield. it doesn't seem to be xshowing up on the ticket fixture list. can any1 help. thks
redfast
I was looking at the same fixture,probably best to call the club for specific details,enjoy your trip.
12th Aug Official site - click MATCH - click FIXTURES.....its there
cozinoz
Cozinoz, the fixture is there but it does not come up of you click on tickets. Ticketing info is not there yet.
Enjoy redfast. Great thing to be able to share with your boy. Taking my boy to Boston. He's nearly 10 been a red since he was 4. He's been doing chores all summer for neighbors and family and has saved up over $100 because he wants the new strip. Little does he know I have one for our trip and he get to keep his hundo. Can't wait.
Chi-Paul
Redfast ,
My first time to Anfeild was with my Son ,so enjoy and get in early
chi-Paul enjoy the Trip to the USA, LUCKY RED FANS
19 Jul 2012 10:59:32
Can anyone tell me how the BBC interpreted what BR said yesterday into Liverpool will accept 20 million for Andy Carroll. (BBC)
Absolutely beggars belief how they get away with it, and that people believe it.
Someone this morning on the site even said LFC will let Downing go for 12 million -I can understand rumours and banter - but please, it would be nice to see believable rumours from proper sources.
John B
Whats not believable about it? Seems believable to me, RedTurk
19 Jul 2012 15:12:15
There are none, mate, and that's the problem. The only genuine ITK here is Macca and a couple of the eds. All the rest is speculation. The sad part is that many journalists come up with even more ludicrous stories than the average troll-poster!
19 Jul 2012 10:56:20
Joe cole speaking very highly of raheem sterling and Jordan Ibe. Give the lads a chance this season.
PKM
Like i said Jordan Ibe would break into the team in the 2013-2014 season he already has the physical attributes to do a decent job right now but he needs a good run in the reserves set up and by that time Nacho if he can keep doing well will also be there alongside morgan.
Haych
Well hes hardly gonna trash them is he? seriously mate, read nothing into that, that was just normal professionalism. Cole may not rate them at all and we'll never know
19 Jul 2012 10:53:27
After winning the cl chelski are buying like crazy and after beating a championship team on penaltys we are buying crap.we don't have the players to play the type of football rodgers wants to play.the dogs on the street know it.top ten if we're lucky.rodgers out by christmass hopefully then with a bit of luck fsg will soon follow.
You're a happy fella aren't you?
Remind me, who did we beat away in the 5th round of the Carling Cup....Chelsea wasn't it?
Who did we beat in the semi-final..........City wasn't it?
But all you remember is drawing with Cardiff after dominating the game and conceding last minute equalisers. Perhaps you should follow a different sport?
JRG
Other teams fans normally want us to keep our managers - this is a an oddity, something missing from your post though - what team do you actually follow?
John B
Hopefully you'll be gone long before them, get back to the everton page lad.
Yawn. Its getting to the point where, if they don't leave a name, it's quicker to press 'disagree' and move on to the next post
cozinoz
Will you change the record please? It's getting so repetitive.
LFC is a club that has been traditionally built on it's sense of community (both inside and outside of the city), an uncanny knack of defeating the odds (too many examples to mention but Rome 77 and 84, Paris 81, Molineux 76, Anfield and Istanbul 2005 spring immediately to mind) and an ability to create superstars as opposed to buying them ready made. We're certainly not a rich ogliarch's plaything.
Judging by the total bilge you (and it's not just you to be fair) have posted, you're clearly not an LFC fan as you don't seem for one second to be capable of grasping the ethos of the club.
As for wanting FSG and BR out, why?
All I can say is I'm eternally grateful that they're in charge and not somebody with your outlook. They understand that a club needs to be self sufficient. They can also see the folly in changing the core fan base to a bunch of transient glory hunters who will jump to the next flavour of the month club whenever somebody with far too much money on their hands turns up.
I could think of nothing worse than a huge stadium filled with glory hunters waving a pathetic plastic red and white checked flag and not being able to sing any of the songs celebrating the club. Like it or not, basic economics guarantees that a new stadium costing £300m plus would need to charge London prices to break even. I for one would much rather have a redeveloped Anfield attended by those who the club really means something to
So can you, and all of the other "fans" who are symptomatic of a culture that doesn't seem to understand the concept of deferred gratification, get behind BR, his players and most importantly the club? If not, hopefully it'll be you that's gone by Christmas but please don't geel you have to wait until then. You'll not be missed.
AD
Will you change the record please? It's getting so repetitive.
LFC is a club that has been traditionally built on it's sense of community (both inside and outside of the city), an uncanny knack of defeating the odds (too many examples to mention but Rome 77 and 84, Paris 81, Molineux 76, Anfield and Istanbul 2005 spring immediately to mind) and an ability to create superstars as opposed to buying them ready made. We're certainly not a rich ogliarch's plaything.
Judging by the total bilge you (and it's not just you to be fair) have posted, you're clearly not an LFC fan as you don't seem for one second to be capable of grasping the ethos of the club.
As for wanting FSG and BR out, why?
All I can say is I'm eternally grateful that they're in charge and not somebody with your outlook. They understand that a club needs to be self sufficient. They can also see the folly in changing the core fan base to a bunch of transient glory hunters who will jump to the next flavour of the month club whenever somebody with far too much money on their hands turns up.
I could think of nothing worse than a huge stadium filled with glory hunters waving a pathetic plastic red and white checked flag and not being able to sing any of the songs celebrating the club. Like it or not, basic economics guarantees that a new stadium costing £300m plus would need to charge London prices to break even. I for one would much rather have a redeveloped Anfield attended by those who the club really means something to
So can you, and all of the other "fans" who are symptomatic of a culture that doesn't seem to understand the concept of deferred gratification, get behind BR, his players and most importantly the club? If not, hopefully it'll be you that's gone by Christmas but please don't geel you have to wait until then. You'll not be missed.
AD
Daniel Agger helped us with getting that late penalty against City in the Carling cup and Lucas man handled Yaya.... LOL
19 Jul 2012 10:50:41
Hi Eds, could you please give us an idea of a possible starting 11 for our first prem game? formation ect.. cheers {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}
Riena
johnson ..agger ..skrtle...enrique
gerrard...alonso
messi......suares.....ronaldo
rvp
Reina
Kelly Skrtel Coates Enrique
Agger
Gerrard Aquilani
Johnson Suarez
Borini
Change aqua for allen and thats a cracking team. always said johnson is natural winger plus good protection for kelly .theres a poacher there in borini and where you put agger suits him perfectly
Come on now, are you saying joe Allen is better than aqualani...
19 Jul 2012 10:44:27
"When we meet real tragedy in life, we can react in two ways--either by losing hope and falling into self-destructive habits, or by using the challenge to find our inner strength."
So, fellow reds take from this what you should, use the recent disappointments we've been through as a source for change, positive change, use the hurt we've been through as supporters as a force against whoever we face, fight the temptation to give in to the power of negativity and come out fighting. Positive strength from the stands is like having a second 11 out there, let alone the fabled '12th man'. Time for the liver bird to rise again and take it's rightful place at the top of the tree.
Bring it on trolls....
The captain
19 Jul 2012 10:40:25
Eds,
what is going on? carroll, agger, skrtel, reina, maxi, bellamy, adam, aqua, kuyt, cole, downing, henderson, doni, shelvey, spearing are all mentioned as possible outs or are already out. I know that some of them will go and some won't but how many in your opinion will departure before the start of the season and how will this squad be completed? thank you.
Who's said that Cole, Downing, Reina, Skrtel, Agger, Doni, Henderson or Shelvey are going anywhere?!
Shelveys just signed a new contract for gods sake!
May be reality has kicked in and the powers that be do not think certain players can get us to where we want to be.
19 Jul 2012 10:35:17
Ed just been looking at the squad for the Toronto game. There's three names I've never heard of can you tell me who they are as I've never heard of them?
Sanchez Diaz.
Lobato.
And Lucas Pezini
Jonesred
Lucas pezzini is lucas leiva
Lobato is Daniel Pacheco
and Sanchez Diaz is Jose Enrique
Well we all know who Lucas is...but the other 2?
Inter Yannan
All part of players names i.e Jose Enrique Sanchez Diaz, Lucas Pezzini Leiva, is this a joke?
Here's the squad I got from Toronto's website (our one doesn't have it):
Goalkeepers: Peter Gulacsi, Bradley Jones
Defenders: Daniel Agger, James Carragher, Jon Flanagan, Glen Johnson, Martin Kelly, Jack Robinson, Jose Enrique Sanchez Diaz, Martin Skrtel, Daniel Wilson
Midfielders: Charles Adam, Alberto Aquilani, Joseph Cole, Stewart Downing, Steven Gerrard, Jordan Henderson, Lucas Pezzini Leiva, Jonjo Shelvey, Jay Spearing, Raheem Sterling
Forwards: Fabio Borini, Andrew Carroll, Daniel Pacheco Lobato
I'm fairly sure Gerrard, Jonno, Kelly, Hendo & Carroll won't join up until the 23rd and will miss the Toronto game though. Certainly none of them are in the training pics on our own site.
- Something Red -
19 Jul 2012 10:28:24
Hi Eds and all,
love the page, i can't help but think these days that Liverpool are not showing enough intent in the transfer market. Getting pipped to Sig by spurs was a poor start and then generally a much slower period than most other clubs we should be competeing with. Thoughts?
We weren't pipped for Sigurdsson - we bid what BR thought he was worth, Tottenham bid more and BR didn't want o go any further. The lad moved for money.
John B
We didnt get pipped, we didn't put in a bid. Rodgers had agreed a fee and wages when still at swansea then as soon as he went to liverpool it all went up so out of principle he decided not to put in a final bid.
19 Jul 2012 10:21:04
Good morning fellow reds and ed's,
Firstly I would like to say how excited I am for the coming weeks, looking forward to seeing the fruits of our academy.
Quick question on ability alone who do people prefer aquilani or cole?
Finally I propose to you all a challenge for the remainder of the tour and further on. Stop this bickering, stop the negativity. Rome wasn't built in a day. Barcelona didn't become the force from buying all these "world class" players, have some patience! Imagine how much better if we were united to the cause and retake our throne as th best fans in the world!
Peace boys, we are Liverpool and we stand firm!
Kind regards
the southern red
19 Jul 2012 10:20:41
Hypothetically speaking EDs if we did sign Allen and Dempsey, who would you name as our 4th acquisition if you had a free bet.....Berger king {Ed002's Note - I am not really interesting in such games, no doubt others will be.}
I'd love to see the back of downing , such a safe player that rarely seems to take the initiative , very frustrating......Berger king
Don't put yourself down Ed002 - I think you ARE really interesting
Puzzled
19 Jul 2012 10:16:31
I think with additions of Walcott, Dempsey, Allen and Mirallas and we'd certainly be stronger and with Suso, Sterling, Shelvey, Teixeira, Coady, Toni-Silva and others coming through our squad will be a lot stronger and we could also be in for some exciting football!
19 Jul 2012 10:11:16
Fact: The media have spent more time thinking up possibilities for Carroll's departure than BR, Newcastle and Aston Villa put together.
Source: Every football newspaper, internet site and premier league news outlet there is.
Okay........It might not be fact, but it is still amusing to think that 1 player transfer is amounting to so much speculation. Maybe we should keep Carroll if he demands so much media attention and put him him goals!
If he goes, then i wish him well, but if he stays i hope he melts the opposition net 20 times this season.
Levans
19 Jul 2012 10:04:25
I'm trying to decide which is my favourite crap idea for signing players, based on what people sometimes post on here.
I'm tempted to go for the one along the lines of 'we'll sign 'X' the Japanese player because then we'll sell lots of shirts in Asia. I'm sure we'd all like to believe that Asia is some blissful nirvana where they all share a common love. But it's a bit like a Chinese team buying Thomas Muller because they expect to sell lots of shirts in Europe. The Chinese being as likely to buy the shirt of a Japanese player as we are of a German player.
Squre Red
I so agree with u, just to lazy to type it out
Kaizer
19 Jul 2012 10:03:21
hi Ed...
i love this site...from far israel...
thank you ! {
19 Jul 2012 09:56:53
Eds, would really like to know are we looking for a cover for Lucas in the DM position... and also whether Spearing deserves another chance under BR? And what about the future of Downing... is it as bleak as Andy Carroll?
Cheers,
Gogol {Ed002's Note - Aside from the unsubstantiated rumours about Denisov I don't know of interest in any DM players. I would think sufficient cover exists and there are other priorities. I think after the tour there will be a better understanding of who might leave.}
19 Jul 2012 09:46:19
just interested in whether you guys or anyone else knows why when i log onto the liverpool website its saying "error5" where they have the latest news on the main page on the flick through tabs?
Hello, IT. Have you tried turning it off and on again?
19 Jul 2012 09:53:50
any idea what's going on with Teixeira? he hasnt gone on the preseason tour, so was wondering if he's either still injured, goin on loan or moving on (already)? cheers. {Ed029's Note - He's only just come back from an injury, so I think they didn't want to risk it flaring up again}
19 Jul 2012 09:42:53
Hey eds,
There has been some rumours with Newcastle buying carrol by exchanging a player, Ba seems to be the guy most people point to. Hate to be unpopular but I would hate that! What are the chances if such an exchange occured that Liverpool could ask for a player such as cabaye or Ben arfa?
If we are raiding Newcastle again would love it to.be those sort of players. Thoughts? {Ed002's Note - The subject has been addressed at some length already.}
19 Jul 2012 09:38:36
I think allens got a slight simularity to How inesta players that's why rogers likes him. Obviously he's not the finished article but it's there.
Scouse ben
He is no were near or ever will be Iniestas level...
G BOX
Hes more in the Xavi mould. Pass, pass and pass.
RedSox69
19 Jul 2012 09:17:50
with sly say swansea want £15m for joe allen does anyone else think this price should not be paid for him by lfc me i think he is a £8m player..
cheers to all mal.
I think it is usual for teams to want the most return on their players mate, it is up to the buying club to negotiate the price downwards and not pay over the odds. Like we did all last summer !
Rik int Wirral
The precedent has been set by us purchasing Jordan Henderson for £16m last summer!
Personally with Jordan in the squad, the need for Allen is not immediate but should a number of our central midfield options go, Allen would be pretty near the top of the list for potential arrivals
RedSG
We should not get our fingers burnt again it happens every year lfc always pay too much , if the player wants to play for us he should do a masherano and force a deal , i did not like what he did but he got what he wanted and lfc did not.
For that price it would be better to integrate Suso into the team and keep Aquilani for a season to give Suso & Teixeira a season to develop and get used to the demands of first team football.
19 Jul 2012 09:09:43
Got all the home games now up until new year, happy days!!
Tugger
So have i mate just heard i live in south wales downing to swansea could be a straight swap mate i hope
19 Jul 2012 09:07:35
Eds.what's the chances on Dempsey signing before weekend
{Ed002's Note - We cannot sensibly say when signings will complete.}
Personally I think Fulham will not sell to us because of what went on yesterday, unless we pay well over the odds - which of course we have form for. Just look at what Swansea are asking for Allen, although I wouldn't be surprised if Allen is wearing the red shirt next season. I think it just depends on BR's power of persuasion.
John B
19 Jul 2012 09:04:55
hey lfc fans.....
chelsea are REALLY strengthening...i mean wow...hazard marin oscar and soon to be moses...
pff well with those signings..they have definitely tied up a spot in the top 3........man city will be there..lets face it..and so will man u..cos as much as they have s*** players..they do it every year..
so........arsenal and spurs and newcastle.......against liverpool.......who dont seem to be strengthening in terms of top quality!..
do fsg actually realise that they are asking for too much when they require champions league football...but offer no real funds to COMPETE in the transfer market....(and remember when that guy said they can compete with anyone)
does anyone else agree..in this sense.....guys...eds..
red lobster
AGREE 100% mate. Its scary how Chelsea are speding. Top 3 are unfortunately fixed and Spurs will spend too.
Spending big money but the premiership is not an easy place to gel into quickly. It will be interesting to see how these players bed in, if at all. Playing away at Stoke on a cold winters night with premiership defenders banging into you is a far cry from the South of France or Sunny Brazil.
Rman
I agree mate - although I think the wheels might come off at spurs AVB is a bit of a clown IMO. Arsenal will have massive pressure on them too this year - no trophy for donkeys years - and no RVP to win games for them. I for one love what Rodgers is proposing to do - I'm just not sure we have the personel to do it. I wanted to see 3 top quality players come this summer to show PSG's intent. All I see is books being balanced. Kennys signings have lot to do this coming season.
Fingers crossed we can scrape top 4 - gonna need a miracle though.
Gazman
As you say, there's City, Chelsea, the Spam, Spurs, Arsenal, and to a lesser degree the Geordies who are looking pretty good. I would think that they will be dropping some points against each other, with a few draws. If (a big If) we show alot of consistency against the teams we should be beating (our undoing last season) we should be up there. We have an excellent history of beating teams with better players, by having a better team. Last season we did well against the clubs which finished in front of us, and I can't see why we will be any different this season. The key will be beating the teams that finished below us on a consistent basis, and cutting out those draws.
I 100% believe we can beat Chelsea and City next season, no matter who is on their team sheet. One thing though, we need to hang on to Luis, and one more signing that has that touch of magic would be nice!
Nick
Best give up now then and 'support' someone else.... That was sarcasm in case you missed it....
The captain
There's still nearly 6 weeks to sign players and I honestly think we'll do quite a lot of business before the window closes.
Regarding Hazard, I don't think he's gonna live up to the hype that he's created about himself. Yes there's a few tricks and that but I don't think he's gonna enjoy the Premier League, he'll be in Spain within 2 years.
This is stuppid..i understand..chelsea and city spending...if we wins our home games..i can see us beating UTD this season...its not about buying big players..its about winning big games...one goal will make the differnce...and by the way..we had money last year to all those chelsea bought..and we bought..great MR.caroll..who can only score with head...Mr adam..dont have anyting to say...Mr.Downing..for 20 mill?...we could have got 3 affaley with that money....and we screwed our own money...now we have to fight with what we got..and KK..proudly wnt upstairs...its a fact that he took us from the hell...but he left again in the same mess....
Personally, I'm not too worried about Chelsea's spending. I find it strange that a few big signings were done before Di Matteo got the job permanently. They are players that he will probably have to fit into his team even if he doesn't want to play them. Same when they bought Torres. I can see Di Matteo sacked before Crimbo. They just seem to have bought who was most expensive without looking at what their team required. I think they will start the season scoring bag loads of goals, come up against another top 4 challenging team, get beat and then the wheels will fall off. Similar to last season. (For the league anyway)
Gazza {Ed002's Note - Chelsea are replenishing an old squad with attacking players moving on (Kalou, Anelka, Drogba, Malouda) they need to bring in attacking players, a right back etc.. The manager has an input to the process.}
I suspect that Chelsea's signings are not RDM's but being bought by the owner again. The problem Chelsea face is that RDM only got the team playing well when he employed a very negative, cautious approach last season. Players like Hazard and Oscar will not be much help in that system. It remains to be seen if RDM can actually get his team to win AND play attacking football. It may take time for Chelsea to settle. Arsenal will be in the mix and Newcastle/Spurs will be strong again. It's gonna be a big ask to get CL for LFC!
LFC_SA {Ed002's Note - The players at Chelsea are bought after consultation between a number of people including advisors etc..}
Have you ever thought - when they cross that white line it's 11 against 11, unless of course you're at OT and Howard Webb is the referee.
John B
The Captain¦.Which part was sarcastic the first bit, middle bit, or the dangly parts at the end?
Coley
It's obvious that Ambramovic was trying to sign a few 'stars' to try and lure Pep Guardiola to the job, then when Guariola made it clear that he wasn't going anywhere yet, then, and only then did Ambramovic offer Di Matteo the job full-time. This is after he won the F.A. cup and the Champions League! He should have been offered the job the morning after the Champions League final! There's something a miss for me and thats why I think it might not gel at Chelsea. It's not just about throwing a load of big names together for big money and hoping that they gel or even like each other, it's about building a TEAM, a team that will play and work for each other, I wish that some of the people on here would remember that at times!
Ashy
Chelsea do look pretty strong. Hazard is a player with quality, but i'm not too sure about his mentality. Seems too self absorbed and could wilt. Marin could be a star, same for Oscar if he signs. I think they'll give City a run this year if they find a striker to score some goals, more so that utd. 3rd and 4th up for grabs, and I genuinely fancy the Reds to be there or there abouts
Milamber
19 Jul 2012 08:56:28
We dont need a lot of players IMO to reach top 4. We have an excellent core in -
Reina
Skrtel
Agger
Gerrard
Lucas
Suarez
Dempsey will be a good addition. He's in his peak form, has a couple of playing years left. Perfect time until which Sterling will mature.
Carroll should stay. We keep talking about "Tiki Taka" and Spanish way of playing football. Its not happened yet and its not going to happen overnight. So Carroll might find a role too. Atleast give him a chance.
If wages are an issue, we have already got rid of Kuyt, Maxi, Aurelia (all on comparitive higher wages).
Maybe get rid of Cole (dont see a role for him).
PKM
Please comment people.
I too agree..but we need a goal scorer..and a player like ramirea..whom we should have bought at 16 mill..now common..if we paid 20 mill for downing..16 mill was a fair price...
We do have a good core of players PKM providing we don't sell anymore..i.e Skrtel,Suarez and maybe Reina.Also people keep on talking about "tikki takka" or whatever it's called, like it's some magical knowledge that only certain managers possess. If it's that good and Swansea played good football last season why did they finish mid table, maybe it was because they didn't have the quality of players or manager they needed...Oh wait a minute? is,nt that where we're heading..my point is what happens when this tikki takka is not working and teams park the bus,whats our alternative. Plus have we got that one player who other teams will fear. Swansea may have played well last season but most teams seemed to know how to handle them' I'll support team, and manager to the end , but I'm sure it's not just me who is worried about the way things are going and are truly worried about next season, I hope my worries prove to be groundless. Just need the season to start as stomach is in knots.
If teams resorted to "parking the bus" to stop us playing, that would be progress in my eyes. It would mean that they were scared of what we could do. Last season, every team we played believed that they could beat us, no fear at all! And a lot of teams did beat us, including Swansea! Granted, it was mainly down to our very poor chance conversion rate over the season. If BR manages to change only that, we'll be a better side!
LFC_SA
19 Jul 2012 15:29:05
1st time posting on thie fab site. have you any idea why Pepe Reina isnt listed on our LFC team site on the tour. Is this because he is not going to join the guys in the US or perhaps he is looking for an exit? Getting worried as I dont see us many rumours around about us signing another keeper? Would hate to lose Pepe
19 Jul 2012 08:46:46
Hi eds do you think that bids will be made for players before we sell?
Thanks
Mighty reds {Ed002's Note - Sure.}
19 Jul 2012 08:40:43
"we don't like to talk about another clubs players" - no - we just claim to have signed them on our website..
Gazman
It wasn't our website, and it didn't say we'd signed him. Apart from that, good post.
19 Jul 2012 08:25:06
Its all just a big merry-go-round smokescreen.
ITK
It's more smoke and mirrors at this stage. If we pick up the spare man and let the ball do the work then we always have a chance.
Gazman {Ed029's Note - Thanks Gazman for a nostalgic trip down to cliche-ville}
It's a game of two halves ed. we have a mountain to climb. The fans are going to have to be the 12th man but you always play to the final whistle, etc.
Gazman {Ed029's Note - He's got a good touch for a big man!}
Don't forget that we can only beat whats in front of us and we should only look as far as our next game.
Gazman
It all depends on how the gaffa sets out his stall.
19 Jul 2012 08:09:08
I wish people would stop banging on about the cost of players, it is irrelevant as long as the business model in the club can support the transfers it matters not a jot, what is important is ability, to play well within the team not how much is paid. does it matter that AC cost 35M surely only to the owners who in the end will take any hit on the cost if he is sold cheaply. the only time it becomes a problem is if we do a rangers and lets face it that is more likely to happen to City when the oil billionares get bored of playing FIFA.ray3037
Never gonna happen...these oil billioners have enough money..the only thing they dont have is FAME and NAME across world...and they will surly have it with football...alos UAE is far developing and qatar will be hosting world cup...the asian market and the middle east market now is developing...and this will have a significant factor...and common mate..football fever is like alcohol..you never get bored especially wen u are wining...
19 Jul 2012 08:02:31
This new philosophy being brought in will really increase the whole teams fitness as I read that we are expected to win the ball back in 7 seconds of losing it and players must always run over to the player on the ball where ever he is to give him plenty of options to pass to!
19 Jul 2012 07:24:20
Andy Carroll to Aston Villa, Final figure will not be disclosed but somewhere in region of £8-£10m with remainder of Downings transfer that is still owed being cleared.
Agent P {Ed002's Note - All transfer fees are now logged on a database and in the public domain. They may not initially tell the fans, but it is logged.}
And you unbelievable information came from where?
John B
19 Jul 2012 07:22:52
Ed's I'm sick of taking the Time to post up comments and yous never put them up.and yous continue to post others about the same s**t..I love the site but you should post up actual fans comments and not dreamers and people who copy and paste sly sports articles {Ed002's Note - If you are posting, as you say, about the same "she*p" as others and not signing your posts you are likely to lose a few.}
19 Jul 2012 05:09:44
I have heard that Theo Walcott will be signing for liverpool for around 18 million next week.
JFT96
18 mill??,,,for running all the way to other end of he pitch?..for god sake buy ramirez?..he is the next siilva, or iniesta we are missing..ramirez, suarez and boroni..with gerrard lucas and aqua behind...can u imagine..we will score atleast 2 goals every game...apart from lucas every one can socre...cant believe y are we buying walcott???
I believe that he could be signing but I don't believe that it'll quite be £18m, £15m at most probably.
I hope we do sign him though, he'll add quite a few things that we don't currently have. Also 22 goals and 24 assists in two seasons from wide certainly ain't bad and will strengthen us.
Ramierez > Walcott, yet we want to buy Walcott for 18m, there is something truly unnerving about our club
Walcott is better than Ramirez. It's funny how so many people are now experts on serie a. If they were they'd see how limited ramirez actually is
19 Jul 2012 07:01:58
il be honest and say i was getting worryed about who lfc was going to bring in but after watching the likes of toni silva, suso the other week maybe we dont need to spend as much. silva is fast and very skillful and for suso he will be world class in time. with the likes of sterling,ibe,morgan, also coming through i think we will become a top side again. i just hope we give them a chance.
Totally agree with you mate. Dempsey and Allen should be enough.
We need to give a chance to Shelvey, Sterling, Suso,
19 Jul 2012 05:54:29
Eds - I read your forum a lot and funnily enough we have a forum that chats about LFC - being supporters. I/we have no inside info - but sometimes hope we can detach ourselves from emotion. one thing that interests me re carroll - is that he has suffered so much criticism yet the games i have seen him play the delivery has been appalling? we have no width / wingers to supply him.
the only reason I give is that if tikka taka football does not work from time to time because you get a scenario where the team defends e.g. chelsea CL win then Carroll is your go to man.
Carroll is young big strong - a.k.a. Attila the person - he will and does strike fear into the defences of other teams - hence we should give him a chance?
he will sell us shirts too!
cheers
R
Ahahah..common mate...even david luiz can dribble caroll from his own penalty box....caroll cant control the ball with feet..whya re people not understanding..have u not seeen this in past 18 months..he is not kun aguero?....
19 Jul 2012 05:49:00
Eds, will we sign Joe Allen? {Ed002's Note - There is certainly interest.}
19 Jul 2012 03:42:12
I've been reading this site religiously for the last couple of years. At least 5 times a day I jump on to check out any progress. But to be honest, I'm finding it harder and harder to read the banter page because of all the whinging. Why do so many people think that we need expensive big name players to succeed? Like every single team sport, it is about how you play as a team and not how much certain individuals cost. I'd much rather have a Lucas or a Spearing who would play their heart out just for the team and the team only, players who have no regard for their own personal glory. If you are going to have a whinge, at least understand what makes a successful team. Better still, no one wants to hear the whinging so if you can't be positive about this mighty club, just don't bother commenting!! Very pumped for the upcoming season
Joel in Australia
I agree but not sure Spearing has the ability although I don't question the heart is there.
19 Jul 2012 03:32:02
Ed001 it's great to see you back editing this site a bit more. Always look for your comments and enjoy reading them. I would also like to show my appreciation for the one editor who has stayed on to edit the whole time, and has continually had to deal with the abuse from the trolls on this site. Whats more she's never lost her sense of humour. Ed002 you are and always will be appreciated on this site, even if you do have a soft spot for chelsea ;-). You are an honorary Red in my eyes.
Cheers ed002.
KiwiRed {Ed002's Note - You are very sweet.}
19 Jul 2012 03:20:00
freddy montero from seattle in mls looks very good vs chealsea
19 Jul 2012 03:12:40
Possible? If it is Carroll = cash plus Tim Krul
It would need to be Carroll plus cash = Krul.
19 Jul 2012 02:52:38
So NUFC want to offer Demba Ba as part of the player plus cash deal.
Ba cost them peanuts (was it 1m), and they charged us 35m for AC.
If this deal goes through it will be the greatest hoodwink of all time.
Surely the Mngt team at LFC (and owners) could not be caught again.
This is junior level negotiations.
Cmon LFC, don't make us a damn laughing stock 'again'!.
His value is what other teams would pay for him now not what he cost nufc to buy him. More to the point though is Ba's knee problem. We do not want another crock. I would rather take cash only and look elsewhere for a striker ...unless Cisse was part of the deal ...
19 Jul 2012 02:47:23
does everyone agree in selling downing instead of carroll?
10m.... that would give us the funds to buy someone like Kevin Mirallas and we want to sign Dempsey regardless so it would make sense. That way a loan deal for Carroll wouldn't seem bad but with no sell clause just a seasons loan or keep him.
in
borini £10.5m
dempsey £7m
mirallas £10m
Allen £12m
£39.5m
sell
downing £10m
kuyt £0.5m
bellamy £2m
spearing £2.5m
= £15m
in the end spending just £24m for three new attackers and 1 creative midfielder; Borini, Dempsey, Mirallas. all three can play as strikers, with dempsey and mirallas also able to play in wider positions on the wings. with allen and dempsey able to play through the middle at attacking midfield or in allen's case an attacking minded cm.
strikers/forwards/attackers
suarez, carroll, borini, mirallas, dempsey, sterling, cole.
with that group you could play any three upfront and they would work well together (bar a front three of carroll, cole and sterling together)
midfield
lucas, gerrard, shelvey, henderson, allen, aquilani, adam, suso
As to your first question - NO.
There is no way Downing, Carroll or Adam can have as bad a season as they have just had - so before we even kick a ball, or sign any more players, we should already be better than last year.
Simple thought, but then again - football is a simple game.
JOhn B
19 Jul 2012 01:40:05
Do u think the signing of Borini and the inevitable signing of Allen and Dempsey is what we need to take us to the next level and establish ourselves as a top four team?! Apart from the potential price, do u think we are making the same mistake as last season by signing average or slightly above average players?! I know we have lost that reputation and attraction for world class players to come to us due to consistent bad league form and lack of champions league but surely there are better players out there?! I know we don't have money like city but they went and bought Y.Toure and Aguero who I'm sure you'll agree won them the league. Until we buy players of that standard we are not going to win the prem, get into the top four or be taken seriously by other teams. We are going to become stuck at mid table for a very long time!! Sorry to be so negative but it's a reality check.
RedCOB YNWA
We already have World Class star players at the club? Gerrard,Suarez,Agger,Lucas and Reina so if we add Borini,Dempsey and the soon to be World Class Allen to the supporting cast of Johnson,Skyrtel,Enrique,Kelly,Carra,Coates,Robinson,Flannagan,Henderson,Adam,Cole,Shelvey,Suso,Sterling,Morgan and possibly still Carroll and Downing this would be the best squad we've had for long time even if we do end up losing Carroll and Downing
kidmillions
We have 1 world class player unfortunately - Saurez - and there is nothing inevitable about Allen and Dempsey.
John B
19 Jul 2012 01:20:10
was wondering if the eds or any fellow reds could enlighten me as to pacheco's standing with the club. i remember awhile ago someone posted something about an incident or maybe his attitude? any info would be appreciated.
cheers eds {Ed002's Note - I suspect we will know more once the tour is over.}
18 Jul 2012 23:01:57
Alright ed, have you heard anymore about defensive midfield cover for Lucas? I've heard moussa sissoko but not much else! Does BR even play with one?! {Ed002's Note - It does not seem to be a priority.}
Victor Wanyama would be the one to get for me.
18 Jul 2012 22:06:20
Ed, it was on the Northern Irish news a while back that Rodgers is brining Liverpool to play crusaders in Belfast. I was hoping to get tickets, but would you imagine he would bring a full strength squad? I know it's not to the middle of august but I was wondering if you knew anything on it. Great site eds, really appreciate all the work you put into it!
Kelly23 {Ed002's Note - I think you would do best to check the details of friendlies on the club site.}
18 Jul 2012 22:05:26
With ac Milan's poor financial situation do u think we could do a Carroll + cash for pato, i know it is wishful thinking with no champs league but he has expressed interest to play in prem {Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely.}
19 Jul 2012 02:57:26
Sadly, all our bitching and moaning, and indeed 'infighting', makes us easy targets for opposition fans.
I pleading all the lfc fans to come together now because im tired of the other club supporters thinking they can come to our team and slate everything out team has achieved. Who cares who we get now because this has got personal. It's time for us to remind them why we're known as the best supporters in the world and the most successful English team. Lfc is the most hated on so I guess we're doing something right ahhaah YNWA
19 Jul 2012 02:20:44
i think Jordan ibe will be ready sooner than when sterling was ready due to his physical ability as well as having the pace but he might have to wait to improve his technical side (which is not that far of) & because of his previous experience of playing with wycombe.
we have the new lennon but with a better end product (sterling)
the new rooney (jordan ibe)
the new silva (suso)
the new deco (joao teixeira)
the new fowler (morgan)
the new gerrard (shelvey)
the new company (wisdom)
now it's up to the LFC coaching staff to manage them properly and keep them at least until they are 21 like barcalona and real madrid do, they realize that most players take that extra bit of time to reach that stage where they can make the step up.
like we are doing with Ecclestone i think that he just might have strong armed his way into Rodgers plans as a useful squad player, or sent out on loan to Swansea, by what he has been showing in pre-season so fare.
Lets not call them the new anyone. let them be themselves. bright future ahead of everyone there.
Kaizer
This post looked gud until u put shelvey as the new gerrard lol
Think we have Rafa to thank for all the hard work he did setting up a productive academy that we are now seeing reward from!
NS
Nice of you to visit our site Mr Henry. I can see that you have been hanging out with your mate Mr Lerner again. We don't need to spend any money when quite clearly we have such world beaters in our junior ranks eh.....( there is a big step up from reserves to epl first team so don't put too much hype and pressure on these young lads).
Looks good but how you can see any comparisons between Shelvey and Gerrard?
I hate when people call young players the new whoever.
I will only thank Benitez when he eventaully sells his house and goes back to Spain - this club owes him absolutely nothing.
John B
Ok watch how Shelvey plays; he is a leader, he runs back to tackle, he runs forward in support, his long range shooting is class and that's all I mean that some similarities can be seen.
obviously their game is identical but i can't think of another player that Shelvey could be similar to...Lampard maybe? although I think Shelvey has a more direct play to his game
But when i liken a player to another it's just the player i think with the most similar attributes, as some people don't know what our youth is like and what they could become as they don't know each players mold and their attributes.
like if i say Andre Wisdom is likened to Micah Richards & Kompany I think most people would get the picture; he is a defender, broad shoulders, big frame, powerful etc.
also that the kind of talent we have has the potential to be or even eclipse the stars that i have suggested as no doubt sterling will.
But certainly my opinion is subjective the REAL point is that we have the talent but how we manage them is key, as well as the time we are prepared to invest in them because we pay so much to get them into the academy and then when they are 19 we discard them, or, we buy other young players for lets say 16m and then we have no choice but to focus on that player and as a direct result there is a youth player or players that all of a sudden isn't seen as good enough.
John B. I think your completely unfair on Benitez tbh. Yes his job has ended with us but he's proven himself to be a Liverpool fan time and time again since his departure. I suppose you'd have rather he didn't donate to the Hillsborough fund as he doesn't deserve any respect or recognition from us?
SideShowBob
18 Jul 2012 22:07:14
I personally dont want AC to go and I was one of the very few people backing him up throughout last season saying he has the potential to be the new Zlatan.
But a manager is their to make the decisions and Ill support him, the players he brings in and most inportantly our wonderful club no matter what.
I'm feeling very optimistic for the new season, I feel we are the drak horses in regards to the top 4 next season. It will be tough but we're Liverpool!
But one thing we must do is keep hold of Suarez...he's irreplaceable.
18 Jul 2012 22:20:49
we dont need no more americans or english (except dempsey as hes good) in our squad. we need to go accros the world like some spaniards,uruaguians,brazillians would really improve our sqaud. chelsea are taking all the good players and made loads of signings so quick.BR needs to do that too! YNWA.
And some Lithuanians, Thais and Mongolians would be great too.
As for 'no more Americans in our squad'......wtf?
cozinoz
Think the original poster was tired and emotional
Puzzzled
Youre looking tired, Puzzled mate - all the Zs in your name today
cozinoz
18 Jul 2012 22:18:26
I hear there will be no more signings until some of our players are shipped out.
we willing to listen to offers for Downing, Aquaman and Adam.
Re Walcott: He wants to preferably stay in London,
Personal remarks: I wouldn't mind Walcott at LFC.
I have no clue what the real situation with Big Andy C is, have heard too many conflicting remarks
Cheers mates
South African YNWA
And what newspaper did you read this - because there is nothing coming out of Liverpool suggesting anything you have written is correct.
John B
Hey John B
I didn't read it from any newspaper mate. I got it from my source. The strongest info i get from him is related to Real Madrid as that's where his connections are. but he knows i'm a LFC fan so he does try get a few things regarding us when he can. I'm not claiming to be the next I.T.K guy, just posting what i was told. i guess time will tell, but he strongly believes what he told me about: sales 1st then we'll buy again after
Cheers mates
South African YNWA
18 Jul 2012 22:05:08
It's interesting that BR said £35m, 3 times in the quote. This is a Technique used in negotiating, whereby you reinforce the message of "value". From my viewpoint he is clearly saying that this guy was thought of so highly that a fee like that was paid and an acceptable offer would have to be a lot closer to the valuation of 18 months ago, than the offers we have had so far. He wants to offload AC but is playing a good game of "see who blinks first".
Nigel
I am a Newcastle fan, and although i do not really see the point in bringing Carroll back, i would be happy enough if we did sign him.
When it comes to your comment i think you are correct. However, LFC paid well over his true value, and will need to be more realistic when it comes to selling. After all, if he is not in the plans of BR, then why would you have a £35m on the bench, when you could have cashed in for around £13-15, and brought in 2 players that will improve your squad.
Who blinks first, well we will see. Although NUFC do not need to sign him, whilst LFC may need to sell him. We will have to wait and see.
Col
Very true agree fully. Ed wouldn't the best deal for us involve Cabaye and or Santon possibly with 5 million cash.
Obviously this would depend on Newcastle willing to let go, but both have great promise.
I would value Cabaye at 15 million tops and Santon at -4-6 million.
Jonesred {Ed002's Note - The best deal would be cash and Liverpool could decide who to buy. I don't see any chance of Cabaye.}
19 Jul 2012 01:48:32
bring back yossi
19 Jul 2012 00:53:52
Can i just say, i support Man City and i like to have a look around on other clubs websites. Not being bitter or anything like that, but why do your fans think all these top players in the champions league at top clubs would come to use? Just about got in the europa league by beating a championship side on pens? Players like Villa, Xavi, Llorente, Walcott, Affelley will not take a step down to come to use. Get used to the mid table players and not that good players while were running away with the title. BLUE MOON!
Yeah, if only we had some billionaire to come and buy us the league..........
cozinoz
The Champions League is bigger than the Premier League, how many times have you won that?....oh...0.
Cool story bro. Enjoy your oil money while it lasts.
KiwiRed
Please define the word 'use' as in your post.
Heavens forbid can you even spell, are you a functional illiterate.
They would come to us because we are still a huge club that is admired all over the world. Some players are fans of us and would love to wear the red shirt. It is a huge emblem of European football.
Better that they want to play for us than they be mercenaries and come for the money. Bit like your team really. If you's (correct spelling) did not pay stupid wages you wouldn't have a good team.
Gazza
We just did scrape into Europa league BLUE MOON mate. We won the final on pens against a Championship team. On top of that we played brutal as well in it. Had to spring Dirk from the bench. But...................we beat Citeh in the semis on our way. Just to point out to you, that yous won the league in Fergie time which we're happy about but you were closes to having no silverware with a Billion pound team. We'll hang on to Skrtle so if we're so rubbish, so don't come asking.
Chi-Paul
Thank you for your kind input BLUE MOON (any significance to the fact that you need to spell your name in 'upper case'?)
I have to say that the temptation to be sarcastic and address you in derisory and monosyllabic words is almost irresistible however I shall try...
I sat with a Man City supporter on the last afternoon of the season and watched him die a thousand deaths as a ten man QPR almost prevented you from taking the Premiership title (talk about being between a rock and a hard place, Utd were the alternative so a no-win situation for me)
I was however, happy for my Man City pal (who has supported them for 30 years) to be back in the winners circle.
I do have a question for you 'blue moon' (lets dispense with the formallity of upper case shall we old chap)
If you were in a position of unlimited expenditure and able to buy anything (maybe a brain to start with) then of course you can buy the best players in the world and then the rest is 'simples'
Except its not, is it... Yes, agreed you won the Premiership (almost didn't, Joey Barton, bless his cotton socks was there for ya) You fell early in the Champs League (the biggest test of class) and finally let me graciously arrive at your talented bunch of mercenaries...
Hmmm Tevez seems to slide off the lips (great golfer) Adebayor, Viera (200k a week, genius) Santa Cruz et al are just examples of the brilliance you have put on the payroll. In fact, much though this pains me, and it is in the interest of balance... you have spent more in the last four years than Ferguson has spent in the last twenty five, and to win what? The Fa Cup and the league once (in 43 years?)
Wow, I am impressed (suitably)(kind of) (maybe) (not really)
Anyway, I am close to being facetious at this point so I will just say that you may be (for all I know) at the beginning of a dynasty unknown to the rest of the footballing world and if you are, let me be the first to congratulate you.
Until the point of world football dominance has arrived however, I should just like to request that you keep your supercilious and brainless gloating to yourself, pay the extra 9% on your season ticket and go forth and multiply...
You are a grade A person...
MikeinUSA
Come to use what? Oh, I see, you're from Manchester - makes sense now!
All the best.
LIVERPRES
Not being bitter or anything like that, but i do hope city go and buy another 4 players for 200 million and then get their ass kicked by FFP rules just likes some other teams like chelsea,psg,anzhi etc..
How did you do in the euro cup? Enjoy your one off.
The hat.
For soemone whos only supported their team for the last two years you seem to think you know alot about football.
We dont need Xavi,Llorrente or the likes because we realise football is a supply and demand business why be in the demand bracket when we can be the suppliers of world class players and keep the best for ourselves.
I bet if I asked you the words to BLUE MOON you wouldnt have a clue so pipe down.
You obviously have no clue about what a good footballer is either Xavi,Villa too old Walcott,Affelay are sh"t and Llorente is the only one out of your dream list I would take.
Kopping a feel
Haha a cocky city fan. Its been a long time since one of them was about, glad to see you've taken your bought title and new found riches with a touch of class.
CQ
Werent you the guy who a couple of years ago changed his club from Neverton to City? LOL
Sj
You should change 'while were running away with the title' to 'while our Kuwaiti Sheikh buys the Premier League title for us'.
That said, I've already put in a request to Bill Gates to help us crush you just so I can go to your message board and brag about how our investors are richer than yours.
And who did we beat in the semi-final to beat that Championship team on penalties? While I think many players discussed here are unrealistic, some fans are young, some clueless, some gullible and others dreamers. While I am sure all Liverpool supporters appreciate your feedback Bruised Moon, I think some sustained success over decades may assist your credibility.
Andy K
Glad you enjoyed your one season of success, with all your youth policy players. Sadly I think the southern big spenders will ensure you will not be doing it again, unless Mansur spends another wedge.
John B
Yeh but we didn't have to spend a billion just to win 2 trophys
It only takes a little bit of success to bring out the arrogance in some supporters.
You would do well to remember where your club was a few seasons ago. If it wasn't for the Manchester council giving you a stadium you would still be in league two.
Your club is at the mercy of a person who, if he decides to stop funding, will see your club disappear into obscurity.
Enjoy your success while it lasts, but be careful who you kick on the way up, as you will get kicked twice as hard on the way down.
JRG
Small club with a sugar daddy.You were a joke for years until the oil money came in. You'll be in an awful mess when he leaves.
To be fair. He has a point. Illiterate yes, buT still valid. Having said that, I can't wait for the day when Mansur gets bored and City go down to league 1. Make no mistake - it will happen. It will happen to Chelsea too.
Gazman
Gazman
What we have achieved u can only dream about .Tommy Irish Red.
Anybody that has supported liverpool all their supporting lives i put the age on this about 8 so for me since 1983 supporting liverpool fc, we have had many ups and downs in this period we have seen r team lose the league in the last min we have come mid table under souness we lost kenny 91 roy evans was on the way to winning the league and they brought in that t*** houllier who undone all roys good work with the youth.But most of all and never will we forget we lost 96 good reds sheffield 89 so whatever some man s***ty fan is slabbering about will not annoy us as we will support liverpool through the good times and especially the bad times thats what real supporters do not these new money plastic fans.Tommy Irish Red.
Blue Moon, you need some humility, you can count yourself very lucky what happened to your team, but if you were a true supporter of City you will have been through the downs aswell as the ups so it isn't very becoming to gloat.
As the song goes " you ain't got no history 5 european cups, 18 league, thats what you call History!
Come back in a few years Blooded Moon...
Phooey
18 Jul 2012 23:51:53
for those of u coming to the game at fenway and want luis suarez to stay . i think we should sing the suarez song loud to let the owners know what he means to most of us . i would start the song but i am american . i would have to ask for u brits or scousers to get us going . i look forward to meeting some of u guys here although i here u guys are relentless ball breakers .
ri red
I'll be there for sure. Will sing Untill I get a phone call from my doctor saying in too loud lol;).
AnfieldUSA