Liverpool Banter Archive July 19 2013

19 Jul 2013 23:49:43
Benteke signing a new deal? Thank god for that but it does tell us something, there is no way that ANY decent clubs were in for him which just goes to show don't believe ANYTHING you read on social media OR in the papers. No disrespect but if ANY of the top six or seven teams were in for him there is no way he would have signed.

Disagree. I think top teams were in for him. They just couldn't guarantee first team footie and with the World Cup coming up he needs playing time to edge lukaku for the Belgium squad.

Can't believe Spurs couldn't offer him first team football. He is twice the striker defoe is.

Ynwa

Spurs have to move adebayor first.

He's definitely twice his size

20 Jul 2013 08:07:32
yeah some delusional spurs fan was on here saying he was waiting on them must have got sick of waiting on them like david villa.maybe they realised that they didn't qualify for cl and can't sign every decent player that goes on sale.Tommy Irish Red

Didn't LFC enquire about him? {Ed002's Note - About his availability a while back.}

19 Jul 2013 23:02:03
Has Suarez gone to Indonesia eds? {Ed002's Note - He is not due to have done.}

Suarez, along with Coates and Reina (if they haven't been transferred from the club) are due on the 22nd July, so aren't in Indonesia at the moment. {Ed002's Note - They won't be going to Indonesia at all. The players are due to be in Australia by July 22. Obviously at least one won't be.}

Suarez, along with Coates and Reina (if they haven't been transferred from the club) are due on the 22nd July, so aren't in Indonesia at the moment. {Ed002's Note - They won't be going to Indonesia at all. The players are due to be in Australia by July 22. Obviously at least one won't be.}

19 Jul 2013 23:25:50
suarez is giving Liverpool one more season, just thought i, d let you know what I heard from my mate this aft who works for blackburn rovers, he, s working on the spearing deal.Id love it if jay came to the blue and whites,

19 Jul 2013 23:31:42
Liverpool echo just reported pepe is going to napoli on season long loan

And queue the moaning about lack of ambition, FSG out, Ayre is an person, etc, etc.

20 Jul 2013 08:17:36
well done fsg for sorting pepes replacement before he left, let's be honest he has been a great keeper for us but some of his ranting in the media about other clubs was annoying, maybe he was misquoted but for me once any player says stuff like I couldn't blame suarez for wanting to join a bigger club his time is up.Tommy Irish Red

20 Jul 2013 09:38:44
RDL, what are you on about?
why on earth would we so stupid to loan him out?
sell him! You should be concerned, the club is going to the dump. Saints and Swansea will finish ahead of us this season the rate we are going on about it.
Seems we have done our summer shopping.

19 Jul 2013 22:25:34
Reina close to signing for Napoli on loan.

19 Jul 2013 22:19:40
Reina going to Napoli on season long loan with a view to permanent move

The Source

19 Jul 2013 21:39:09
I hope most fans can see that we have done some great business in this transfer window, for realtively normal fees. The Transfer Market is frankly ridiculous at the moment and it is almost impossible to get any value. We won't get in the top 4 via big money signings, we need to try and find players in the mould of coutinho and sturridge and hope we can improve them, much the same way Klopp has done at Dortmund. I can't quite beleive that PSG have spent 27 mill on Marquinos. If that's the rate then scalke are quite rightly holding out for 20 + million for Papa. Eds is this the last season before we see some more normal fees being paid in light of the new FFP rules. Or are they just arbotrary and clubs will find a way round it? Thanks Neel {Ed002's Note - I have explained the FFP rules at length so you can look that up.}

I think Rodgers is doing exactly the right thing, he's bringing in very skillful players who will improve the overall strength of the squad and change the style of play which has developed over the last few years which needless to say has been very drab. Given the chance I believe he will bring in very good first teamers but the problem with us is we have to convince them to join as we're not in the UCL. T

How do you know the style of play will change? I assume you know how many goals they'll score too. Too unrealistic that.

Teams like Dortmund come round once in a blue moon were they compete at the highest level having spent moderate amounts. Fact is teams win via big players and unfortunately that costs a lot. Take your rose tints off eh.

Teams like Dortmund come round once in a blue moon were they compete at the highest level having spent moderate amounts. Fact is teams win via big players and unfortunately that costs a lot. Take your rose tints off eh.

19 Jul 2013 20:56:17
Hi Eds,

Do you know of any interest in Vilhenna or Clasie (both from Feyenoord) from any clubs? They both seem like decent prospects

Thanks :)

19 Jul 2013 19:35:43
Hello Eds,
a number of respectable LFC reporters have said that LFC are interested (or have enquired) about Bernard. What I wantd to know was that if Suarez was to do a U-turn and stay as BENTEKE do you reckon we have enough funds to sign Bernard, Illori and possibly Jorginho? {Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to trying to unrevel any weird scenarios like this.}

19 Jul 2013 19:19:10
This is the best site for accurate info (from eds). To all the people saying we over paid on recent players, only time will tell. Carrol and coutinho should have proved this. Its how they perform on the pitch that will dictate wether we got good value or not. In the mean time let's support who ever pulls on a red shirt 100%!
D. Agger!

Is this seriously Daniel Agger or just a lame poser?

Ole, Norway

Yes it is the real Daniel after mate

19 Jul 2013 19:15:18
just read comments made by Ian ayre regarding transfers and the fact that being away will not hamper our current transfer activity.
firstly its nice to hear but secondly I feel a little sorry for him, as the guy in LFC through and through and only wants the best for our club. Yet he still gets so much stick if we 'miss out' on a target which for whatever reason something with the transfer was clearly not right financially for LFC.
It also suprises me how many of our so called fans get on hisback over players that we have never even been after! and they also act like they were somehow involved in the negotiations and then blame ayre for it all.
Just be patient my fellow reds and trust the men in charge, as I think they are clearly working in the best interests of our great club.
YNWA *****

Totally agree. I think Ayre is doing a good job so far in the role, would people prefer to have Damien (yes whatever price you say) Comolli, back in charge of negotiations, don't think so.

19 Jul 2013 19:05:09
Can I say for the record that I am very happy with the players we have bought, Alpas, Alberto, Mignolet, etc. will be fantastic for us you wait and see, if Pepe and Suarez stay all the better, if they leave we shall replace them and I think have a great season.

I have to say, I second this notion.
I just get the feeling Mignolet and Aspas will shine next season. Don't think Pepe or Luis will be here next season though.

I'm not sure if we'll reach top 4, but if we don't I think we'll be really close to it in the end

We will be pushing top 4. Really? how did you work that out? At the moment our first 11 is no better than last year when we finished 7th. Caragher has gone, Suarez misses first 6 too. It could be argued our squad might be a bit better with Aspas & Alberto. Toure is ok but better than Skytel? If Suarez goes we will be severely weakened - it's not just his goals it's his work rate which constantly gives defences problems. All the top 4 have strengthened and the spuds are looking to. Unless we sign a couple of proven players 6th is all we can hope for. {Ed002's Note - I think it likely Suarez will miss the first 38.}

We will be pushing top 4. Really? how did you work that out? At the moment our first 11 is no better than last year when we finished 7th. Caragher has gone, Suarez misses first 6 too. It could be argued our squad might be a bit better with Aspas & Alberto. Toure is ok but better than Skytel? If Suarez goes we will be severely weakened - it's not just his goals it's his work rate which constantly gives defences problems. All the top 4 have strengthened and the spuds are looking to. Unless we sign a couple of proven players 6th is all we can hope for. {Ed002's Note - I think it likely Suarez will miss the first 38.}

19 Jul 2013 18:41:55
Hi eds and fellow reds, recently we seem to be linked with any player that's heading for their respective clubs, so makes it very difficult to even guess who we may end up with. But, whoever we end up with I have full faith in BR to make us fight for top four, whether we get it or not is something I'm looking forward to see. I just wish some 'fans' would just get behind the team! P.s. great sight eds and thanks for the hard work, One day it'll get me in trouble at work!

19 Jul 2013 18:14:03
My mate up here in Newcastle has just told me we have put in a bid for Ben Arfa!?!? She told me about Carroll too and I didn't believe her. Anything on this snippet Eds?

Scouse in 6e0rdie Land. {Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any bid.}

Bloody hope not .

19 Jul 2013 18:02:03
An explosion of posts about Eriksen signing will be coming soon but I don't buy it!

Do a quick Google "last hour" search and reports are that he's agreed terms with AC Milan, (hope he has, then people will stop going on about him), more likely imo but don't believe those either. This one is going to rumble on a while longer yet. (Sigh)

19 Jul 2013 17:48:30
Hi Ed's,
just wondering how many posts you have to deal with on a daily basis? On average if you can, if not what would be the highest amount you have had to deal with?


Brenton Rogers {Ed019's Note - During deadline day last season we had over 5000 - just on the liverpool site}

That's 3.4722222 per minute!
WOW!

19 Jul 2013 16:01:58
Im just wondering if Suarez stays when is the first game after his ban, i'm not sure how many games he's got left 6?

He will be making his comeback against athletico Madrid.

MIKEY

So it would be the Madrid derby then.

19 Jul 2013 15:25:14
Just watching the season review on lfc tv. Showing all games and goals, I've wanted to see all conceded because I wanted to count how many errors pepe has made. So far there has been 5 errors. 3 fumbles, 1 hesitant play ( equalling a pen) and a shot under his hand a keeper should easily of saved. It's just gone to adverts, and we aren't even in November.

I seriously think that mignolet won't only stop us losing points, but with his shot stopping, he will win us some points. A goal keeper change has come 2 years to late for me personally, but I really hope mignolet is first choice.

Sorry, that was just by the end of September. He didn't play through October due to Injury. In december now, should of saved first goal against villa.

Keep on watching and you'll notice he only had an awful start to the season and his form was massively improved from Christmas.

I like Mignolet and I think he's a great replacement, assuming Reina leaves, but Reina is 10 times better with the ball at his feet so it would be great if they had a year together to push each other and improve Mignolet's kicking.

Yeah we all know the start of last season was a tough one we didn't defend well at all leaving pepe vulnerable at times . but as the season went on he def improved making some great saves in the process. Hope he doesn't leave because then we will have two grt keepers nxt seasono))

Cheers Alfie

The end a the season pressure was of reina isn't a top keeper

Goal keepers can also use their hands so I wouldn't worry about what reina can do with his feet as it's not all that important.

MIKEY

Reinas distribution of the ball helps set up attacks and is something he does very well, he is also a very good shot stopper, that equals a very good keeper in my opinion, he may have had a so-so season last year, but who wouldn't after some of the performances from the rest of the team! e.g. Oldham.

I see your point redgeorge but how many of reinas passes or long throws actually got us goals or points last year? Whereas his shot stopping or lack of it sometimes cost us dearly and that effects the defence and makes them nervous and unwilling to move out, and puts tons of extra pressure on the attackers if teams get an undeserved goal off us and then parks the bus. A goal keeper needs to be a shot stopper first and a distributor second. Reina has been off the boil for a while now unfortunately.

MIKEY

Reina is, imo a good shot stopper, he is also a great distributer of the ball, but in terms of defence, a team is only as good as it's weakest part and that for Liverpool is, and has been for a while now, set pieces and defending crosses. I am of course not laying all the blame on Pepe, there are other members of the squad culpable but, the 2011-12 season 24.1% of goals conceded came from set pieces, 2012-13 that rose to 28.1% and that isn't including crosses, just corners, free kicks and throw-ins. Teams basically know now that if you can get the ball into the box aerially they stand a good chance of scoring and some at least, of the blame lies with Reina's ability to deal with these situations. Also imo, this improved a bit when Carragher was brought back into the team but it has to be addressed in the longer term, which I think Brendan is trying to do in signing Toure and Mignolet especially with Jamie gone. One more aerially proficient defender and I think this will improve dramatically from last season (hopefully, again imo, Skrtel out, Papa in). I'm all for playing the ball out of defence to help set up attacking plays but the defence is after all, the defence. Just my opinion.

19 Jul 2013 15:00:06
So guys I was just wondering, with all the spanish football people saying Liverpool have over paid by 75% on there players from Spain wot do u expect of them this season?
CTR

I expect they will play football.

City overpaid by about 300% on Negredo and 150% on Navas.

Alberto was slightly overpaid but Aspas was a bargain considering.

Aspas has proved nothing.

It all balances out mate. We underpaid 500% on Couthino

Gazline

If they beat your club (whoever that is?) they will be worth every penny!

And overpaid 1000% on Carroll and Downing.

19 Jul 2013 14:36:20
Apart from the "The Real Fantasy Premier League" does anyone have another fantasy premier league code?

I would like join as many as possible.

O'seunfunmi (Anfield Red)

If you're interested I could set up a league for the Metro Fantasy League. But since it's generally not as liked as the Fantasy Premier League, I wouldn't be expecting a lot of people to join. Nonetheless, if you're interested, reply on here. Cheers!

sama491

19 Jul 2013 13:24:22
R.I.P. Bert Trautmann
A football legend

. and a true gentleman .

Legend .ant

To play in an FA cup final with a broken neck and you have to ask yourself about the antics of todays players?
Then it was Glory now it is money.
Win at all costs by fair means or foul.

Livern01

19 Jul 2013 12:55:05
RE Harry Scousser's teams post:
I dunno Harry, I reckon we'd need a defence ;)

I just don't see Suarez staying mate. Back a few months against Zenit, he was my Hero and I wanted him to be the next vice captain after the passion he displayed when the free kick flew in. I saw his many issues (greed, suspensions, wastefulness etc.), but I had faith he would learn from them, and become the player he has the potential to be. He needs to learn to look up and pass, calm down and play, and work on his finishing/decision making. I trusted him to try and change. However, after he went and bit somebody for the second time, I realised he does not have the ability to learn from mistakes. He is what he is, and will never change. He is great for entertainment. When he plays, he's a frigging steam train, and he does things others aren't stupid enough to try, which makes him look volatile and better than what he actually offers to the team. After my respect for him was gone, so was my love; and this has allowed me to view him without the red tinted glasses. He isn't the be all and end all, and he's never been in the same league as the Fowlers, Owens and Torres's of old. He is just a good player, whos flair makes him look better than he is, and has always had every team he's played in built around him.

If he stays, I'll support him regardless of my lack of respect, but the transfer fee he would command would offer more to the team than Suarez currently does. I'd be astonished if anybody will pay £55m for him. The only coach on earth I think could control him is Mourinho. Because he would just drop him till he has no choice but to learn. Mourinho is the only coach on earth, who has taken power back from the players. If Wenger signed Suarez, He'd play every game he was fit for, because Wenger would be too scared of repercussions if Arsenal lost, and Suarez was dropped. Mourinho is so good, because he does what's best for the team over the course of the season, and couldn't give a **** about what the papers print. Todays paper is tomorrows cat litter.

19 Jul 2013 14:03:34
YNWA Adam.

Thanks Mate. let's keep fingers crossed.

with Asaps coutniho and suarez behind sturridge. we would get into cl without any doubt.
we would then need just a defender and a LB.

Harry does not need a defence he needs a committal

Gotta agree Harry think that would be a cracking attacking force, get Johnson to sharpen on on the defensive side of his game and think we'll have a chance

Swallybean

19 Jul 2013 12:00:21
Hello Ed L'equipe are reporting that we have interest in Ben Arfa and have discussed a potential transfer with Newcastle recently.Can you confirm this or do you have any knowledge about this. Thanks {Ed052's Note - I haven't heard of any interest from us in a while, but will check}

1) He is injury prone.
2) Newcastle will demand silly money.
3) Personally don't think he is all that.
4) Much rather buy Bernard with the £15M or so Newcastle will want as I feel he along with Coutinho, Aspas, Sterling, Ibe can be very good fro us next season.

1) So is Daniel Agger and Steven Gerrard. Agger played all 38 Premier League games, Gerrard played 36.
2) The expected price is £12 million, that's not silly money. Liverpool will likely start bidding lower than that.
3) No one is all that, he is still a quality player. Attacking midfield and right wing would be secure for a season.
4) Bernard's price is rumoured to be £20 million+. Our squad would look good with either player.

Just giving an alternative point of view to the list you gave.

Bernard looks off to porto if we are honest. One of his owners has a share in porto.

19 Jul 2013 11:18:59
I'm sat in work sweating like a glassblowers a. e already and it's only 27 degrees here.
Its 38 in Jakarta today and the lads are playing footie in there tomorrow.
I'm knackered just thinking about it.
The Goathertder
JFT96

My heart bleeds! I'm sitting in Basra & it's 52 degrees. lol.

Come to northern india in the summers and you'll experience temperatures above 40 degree. hope LFC come for pre season to India next summer.

Basra - I salute you mate and the rest of the lads.
I'm an ex-WO1 - 34yrs man and boy.
Stay safe.
The Goatherder
JFT96

In Dubai its 53 degrees.

In my oven its 200 degrees at the moment, do I win

19 Jul 2013 19:29:04
43 with the humidex
In one of the coldest national capital cities.

Glad to get some hail during yesterday's game.

Moan when its cold moan when its hot i'm loving it checking the page out with a cold one this is the life pub tomorrow watch the match then on the coach to haydock races with the lads to watch a bit of madness can't wait

mayhem 1981

My bbq is 400 degrees . I win

Be safe basra, ant

Iam in bed with the 3 degrees I think I win ha ha

19 Jul 2013 11:02:22
With CL football next year the ultimate goal what would you fans say if we don't reach that but see an improvement in our play? I like all of you want to see success now. But more than that. I want to see consistent success. Every year seeing us make the last 16 of the CL and challenging for the BPL title. I really feel we have a good squad and will do well this season, but I think with the signings BR had made our teams more likely to peak in 2-3 yrs when these superkids are now young men.:.
.

The chances of top 4 for the next 5 years is the same as your username.

Perfect

LFCSetForTopFourTheNextTenYears

19 Jul 2013 10:31:05
Hey eds what are the chances of us going for Papa and Ashley Williams at CB or is it 1 or the other depending if Barca make a move for Agger or Skertal moves on? {Ed002's Note - I don't see AW in the loop at all right now.}

19 Jul 2013 09:44:36
hi eds if barca do look to agger as maquinhos opts for psg and thiago silve decides to stay could there be a possibility of Sakho being a replacement for agger
Thanks {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

19 Jul 2013 08:49:03
Eds and fellow reds when Suarez leaves what would you do with the money.

a) instantly try to find some big name player to try and replace Suarez ( I use the word replace loosely).

b) try to find two or three players to fill various other positions needed filling in the squad.

c) wait a season and use the money when and if we get champions league or europa to attract a better caliber of talent to help us push further.

Kopping a feel

If we loose suarez, and don't use the money, i'm pretty sure cl won't be next year.

For me, I'd go with the second option. Go for Susaeta and, dependant on who else leaves, either a CDM (my choice would be Medel) or Papadopoulus IF skrtel or agger were to leave. Personally, I reckon that would give us a squad capable of attacking that top four, it would have solidity and loads of creativity and goals.

Do you honestly feel we will make CL or Europa if we don't use Suarez money?
I reckon we will have atleast 60 million to spend with the probable sales of Suarez (45m), Reina (8m) and others including Spearing, Pacheco, Coates, Assaidi and Flanagan.
The best way to spend it go for Bernard (LW), Ben Arfa (RW), Illori (4th CB), A back-up LB and possibly a good back-up keeper like Alex McCarthy.
All pretty much attainable if we try hard enough. But can Ayre and LFC achieve this I doubt it.

We will have even more than that! However we won't spend it all.

I'd go to Vegas and put it ALL on red! But then I am a gambling addict :/

HB

Don';t fall into the trap of thinking that if we sell players for 60M, that money wil all be used to buy players. We are a heavily indebted business. We have got to start paying down the capital of our debts.

19 Jul 2013 15:36:43
Assuming we got £50m, a compromise between the figures being thrown about I'd go for a top winger for about £25 - £30m (I'd love Alexis Sanchez but its unlikely), and then keep any left over improve positions where players leave ie Agger leaves and we get £15m say, we put another £5m from the Suarez sale to try and get a better defender.

Don't get me wrong, Agger was an example, I love him, really I do!

19 Jul 2013 08:24:52
Suarez will definitely leave this this summer. You can't keep a player that wants to leave as it will affect the whole team's morale. When he leaves expect sturrige to be the number 1 striker. That is why Liverpool is looking for an eriksen type of player to play behind sturridge like suarez did.

Why he will perform no matter what he wants as its a world cup year andhe will still be worth thesame price or morein a years time. Ronaldo stayed with utd for a year more thanhewanted and still performed. Suarez will stay unless we get a offer over £45m at. Least. We have no need to sell.

Ynwa

Yes but nearly all players who went to united respected the club and their success, and particularly respected fergie. This was evident with ronaldo as he respected the man more than most and for that reason was gentlemanly enough to give united another season of his best efforts, and in return ferguson gave him freedom to move.

Unfortunately, players no longer respect us, nor the manager, nor the fans. Suarez will not give us another year of his best performances because he has shown his true colours to be that of a weasel, he will cause more trouble on purpose and play sh*t just to get a move. This will result in us getting significantly less money for him if we sell him next year, look at the united/rooney saga- player is kept despite wanting a move and could have moved for 50 million, now thanks to unmotivated performances is worth 25-30.

Anonymous woolback

19 Jul 2013 07:38:15
What ever happens re Suarez nothing lasts forever.
I'd love nothing more then for him to knuckle down and give us another year but que sera sera.
What I will say is that we Play Coutino through the middle behind the main forward in Sturridge particularly at home send wedding with the signings we've made so far I'm liking the shape of the team.
Obviously we'd have to go with a straight 433 away like Are Emalee away last season but I'm so optimistic about what's going on at our club I belive somthing special is on the cards. A rubbish load of technically superior load of youngsters, plus the gnarled veteran's like You're, Aggressive Lucas And Gerrard. Signings still to come people still to go. I'm backing these guys all the way. Back these boys from the get go and not halfway through the season when it's obvious something very special is happening at out great club. Keep the faith, a bit less of knee jerkery wouldn't go a miss either.

19 Jul 2013 07:10:30
Morning eds and all fellow reds! First time poster. I've been following the site for a few months and appreciate all the clarification on rumours and paper pants(as I call it).

Been Reading a lot of negative posts towards fsg and it makes me laugh how FANS really don't seem to grasp the situation our club has been in, imo since G&H got it all so wrong, as I said IMO!

Not only have fsg come in and stabilized lfc financially(not an easy task seein as how far in debt we were) but have also put plans in place to make sure we don't get that close again! (Anyone remember the Hanson Relic comments)? I do!

Also they have been very astute in bringing in a gaffer who can manage the expectations of supporters by saying the right things but also imo can not only build a successful team with attractive football, but can also manage them!

Rodgers has an eye for talent and i'm sure all the impatient/desperate, need a tent fans will be singing the names of whoever he does bring in. Me thinks some people need a mimosa or maybe Ritalin? Good day!

Southern Red

A good post Southern Red, but I think as usual, many won't understand and will continue to slag off the owners, some players and the manager.

The real AG

Boys. Keep saying this. Don't get wound up with these people. Just ignore them and don't entertain them in the slightest. The majority of fans are just buzzing for the new season whatever happens.

There has always been negative fans and like I say they'd be last pick for the footy match on the way to watch the reds play. Or talking to the coach driver while the rest of us are havin a laff and singing songs.

All in all ignore the negatives and focus on the positives. Life is much more fun that way and you never know what the team can achieve too.

Alfie

19 Jul 2013 06:17:02
Just hypothetically. if a woman footballer is good enough to play in the premier league ( or any other major league) is it allowed? The french team at the women's Euro is pretty impressive {Ed002's Note - It is not allowed.}

Give it up John Terry!

The real AG

Hi Eds,

Didn't Perugia try to sign a woman footballer a few years back?

Marc {Ed002's Note - As a gimmick but the rules do not allow it.}

Keeping it tight at the back would be a hole different ball-game!

DaveyBootle

How about playing it fast and loose?

Or dribbling round the box?

MIKEY

19 Jul 2013 02:23:17
Kevin-Prince Boateng will be pursued.

AC Milan are currently trying to get a deal done with regards to Christian Eriksen.

What Milan pay for Eriksen will likely be the fee for Boateng.

Only if Suarez leaves will we go for someone like Bernard or Shaqiri.

As Mourinho says, he is more interested in his haircut than football.
Not the right attitude that we are trying to install back in the club.
We want winners who will give their all the bring the Reds back to where we belong

We wanted Mkhitaryan regardless of Suarez so I doubt it matters if he leaves or not!

Kevin Prince Boateng is an awful player, let him stink out some one else's starting line up, not ours.

19 Jul 2013 01:22:52
For what it's worth, I'm not expecting a lot of people to agree with me, but after watching La Liga last year, I've got high hopes for Aspas. Directly involved in 52% of Celta Vigo goals last year. Remarkable stat. Only 25 too. He bleeds for his club too. Clinical finisher who is fiercely loyal. I reckon he will be a new fan favourite.

JFT 96

JP

19 Jul 2013 08:13:04
I really like him, went to the friendly against Preston and his first touch and vision to link up with the players around him is superb. I think he will do very well for us as part of a front three.

Not having a go JP, and I like your posts, but hard to say he is fiercely loyal to his club when he has just left his boyhood club to 'take the next step'. I am sure the Celta fans don't see his fierce loyalty!
As I say, I tend to enjoy your posts (especially if I am in need of a bit of optimism!), and this 'loyalty' issue is everywhere, but as long as he gives 100% every day I will be happy, but he can't confess to being a lifelong LFC fan.

Nick

He is a very good player, but I would think he needs to first earn a place in the starting 11 first.

The real AG

Nick, for what it's worth mate, he was with Celta Vigo for a ridiculous amount of years. If you were in a faltering team fighting a relegation battle, and you got the opportunity to go to one of the most famous clubs in the PL, you wouldn't turn it down. He went into the crowd and cried his eyes out with the fans after he (once again) was involved in the goal that kept them in La Liga and the deal to Liverpool had been completed. To me, that's still loyalty. Either way pal, I think he's going to make us all very happy fans!

JFT 96

JP

19 Jul 2013 00:35:18
Hey Eds, you guys really do a great job on this site. I just have a quick question. i'm pretty sure these would be more realistic signings if suarez leaves but I know we used to hold interest in Turan and Gaitan. Gaitan was from a while ago and Turan was a little more recent. But each of them would be able to cover a wing position which we definitely need. Would you see any possiblity eds? Turan would be more likely I would think. Thanks guys {Ed002's Note - Right now, no.}

19 Jul 2013 00:23:32
We should all stop going on about Suarez. Yes he is a great player and if he goes I'd rather he move abroad than have him compete against us for a top 4 finish. Remember when Torres left. We were all ranting on about how he could replaced. Then came Suarez. If he goes we will replace him too. It does not have to be a 40m plus player. BR knows what he is doing and we should give him the support we are famous for. We will be much stronger next season and I for one can't wait till it all starts over again. BR is the right man to bring the club forward and we should all look forward to what is about to happen.

19 Jul 2013 08:17:53
Very much agree mate. Life was over when Torres left and no one could see how we would move on and get a decent forward, then Suarez, £23.5m.
It just goes to show that we don't have to spend the £40m mark to get that level of quality. We buy someone around the 15-20m level who in turn are then worth the 30-40. This does not have to be a striker, Bernard would be a superb example.
Papodopolous would cost us up to 20m but if he was a success for us then the figure becomes 30, if not then we've got a young ferocious centre half who will give his all to win the ball, he will learn humility with age.

Anfield Andy

Kevin and kenny springs to mind.

18 Jul 2013 23:48:46
I am so sick off Liverpool buying bargin bin players, Like a 10 million pound player is going to make any difference to our team at all.

Seriously what are FSG, Ayre, BR playing at.

I remember when Liverpool spent just 10 million on Xabi Alonso in 2005. Well there's 10 mill we will never see again. I mean why can't we show are intent and sign marquee players like chelsea, At least they looked like they cared when they spent 50 mill on torres AND they got value for money too.

I say bid 40mill for daren bent, He may not be worth that but at least it will look good to fans like me that we are showing intent.

The last thing I want is more bargin bin deals like this

agger - 6 mill
reina - 6 mill
xabi - 10 mill
arbeloa - 3 mill
lucas - 6 mill

Seriously people get a grip less money dosnt mean less quality!

Well put mate.
Coutinho cost just £8m and has been the quickest settling Brazilian since Juninho. Veron who was proven quality acquired over £60m in 2 Prem transfers and never settled at all. It's not about the expensive big name player but the correct player to improve the squad.

Coutinho cost £8.5 or something like that and many of us already have are hopes pinned on him delivering plenty of goods.

Nothing wrong in getting value for money, especially when we really have little choice else to fall back on. There is an exit door and like Rodgers announced all players have their price. Rodgers obviously has his own ideas and really needed his own squad to implement them correctly which is why Rodgers has been heavily involved in the youth market but I'm sure Rodgers might bring one or two other faces in and certainly if we are to sell are goal machine Suarez.

It is frustrating at times but we are not a City or Chelsea and when we tried to be it almost bite us in the butt. Which is why we have gone with Rodgers after he showed excellent management on a small budget now he has brought in his own players after a good while of scouting since January I think we will surprise many of the half empty glass drinkers and rival fans that only want to see the magnificent footballing institution that is Liverpool fail.

Thought you were being serious there for a while

Most sensible post of the day mate.

Cheers

Good stuff there

Veron cost 45m on 2 transfers. Still an absolute waste of a fortune, just thought i'd correct you.

18 Jul 2013 22:54:59
We as supporters need to stop moaning about the lack of bussiness and big names we are executing.i am under the impression that Brendan is waiting for suarez saga to be sorted before he spends the bulk of his kitty aswell as any money from a possible suarez sale.This is maybe due to the fact that he has built the side around suarez and should he leave brendan will have to change targets in order to suit a possible new formation or centre forward upfront.Just my feelings on the situation and maybe a possible explanation as to why bussiness has slowed down.so let's support brendan i'm dead sure he has a plan and knows what he is doing

LYON KING

I think Suarez wanting to leave has been on the cards a lot longer than we've known about it, last summer he was yachting with Nedved trying to get a move to Turin with Juventus, Suarez has only ever seen LFC as a stepping stone to Mardid, Barca, one of the Milans, Juve and Bayern. He's apparently willing to go to Arsenal and they never win anything even with Cesc, RVP and others. So that just shows you, he talks crap and wants out, let him go, like you mention and use the money on strengthening the squad. Easy, thanks Mr Suarez and enjoy Spain, Italy, Germany even France then the headache is gone and a new headache arrives in replacing the annoyance with huge and unquestionable ability.

18 Jul 2013 22:48:35
I think Toure and Gerrard signing again is great, we have a squad that is way to young, loads of talent and potential but lacking experience.
I don't think we can attract the likes of Lamela or HK and I think we should be looking at players instead who can bring leadership and experience to the squad, players the youngsters can learn a bit from and who can help us get something from the games we have struggled to grind out wins. I have no one in mind really but players like Sneijder, Alonso, Gareth Bary, Van der vart, I'm not saying those positions or players but that age group who have won and have experince at big clubs, to help the team develop over the next couple of seasons.

Reina, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Toure, Gerrard, Lucas and Downing are all well seasoned campaigners. For the most part, this is also the spine of the team. With various levels of youth around them, it would appear a great mix to me, already.

Andy K