Liverpool Banter Archive May 19 2015

19 May 2015 22:50:52
2 things to do:
1_ changed the coach; big players want to work with great coaches who have won something.
2;o change this false thinking that we can not attract big PLAYERS; city was a middle ranking team . and brought stars, monaco promoted from the second division and brought the stars, Anji FROM cold russia brought stars .; Why these teams CAN ATRACT BIG PLAYERS, and these teams have not AURA OF LIVERPOOL FC ;there a simple answer . money . LIVERPOOL has to pay if he WANT TROPHIES.YNWA FROM ROMANIA

19 May 2015 23:07:25
Weren't Anzhi from like some Southern Russian city with serious criminal problems and religious tension or something like that?

19 May 2015 23:12:42
We have spent money just like these clubs have BUT have been terrible at maximizing the benefits by poor scouting and a lack of a transfer strategy. We can't blame the other teams for spending the cash just because we are not good at it.

19 May 2015 23:20:11
Its not that we can't attract them fellow red, but we are actually not in for them!

Tom Werner was asked in hos last interview about targetting players and he said the club were happy with the policy of younger players but of the right older player became avalia le we would put ourselves in the mix!

If we sign expensive players rhwy will be because we make them expensive rather than them being expensive!

The club is summer.will have done all there scouting and will have a list of players who they are going to target and they won't have worldlys on! Like Sanchez wasn't getting targeted before the world cup last summer he was a reaction to Suarez going!

Like because we spend say 30 mil on benteke they doesn't mean we could of got cavani if he goes for the same, its not because cavani doesn't like the manager its because that's not who we are targetting.

The next manager that comes in if Brendan goes will be a head coach whose main aim will be to develop young players, utilies the academy and play attacking football!

Its won't be say anchelotti and 80 million on 2 top top players!

We will pursue our own targets selected throughout the year but if the new coach comes in and goes I really like this player then asking as he meets our criteria then we might pursue but if klopp came they ain't getting hummels or reus or gundogan!

Its not the manager its the model!

And that's not a critism of fsg but just how it is! Or what we believe it to me! Hey they might surprise us this summer!

20 May 2015 06:43:27
Sorry Austin, there is nothing wrong with the model. What is wrong is the complete lack of planning by BR, the TC and the scouts that have wasted the funds provided by FSG to implement the model. The model isn't flawed, BR is.

20 May 2015 07:23:46
If i remember rightly, all of the Anzi players lived and trained in Moscow and were flown in for home games before flying straight back to Moscow. In relation to your other point about attracting star players, there are quite a few out there who would turn out for North Pole FC if the price was right. If there main motivation is money then who can blame them as at the time Anzi were throwing stupid money at players before things went pear shaped.

20 May 2015 09:11:41
Didnt say I thought the problem was the model Brisbane, just stating what it is! Because a lot of fans are under the assumption that were only not get so called big names because the manager doesn't have the pull to get them. Which could be the case of we were actually in for them, but were not.

20 May 2015 09:13:13
Didn't say I thought the problem was the model Brisbane, just stating what it was. a lot of fans are under the assumption that were not getting the so called world class players/big names because the manager can't attract them. Which could be the case of we were going for them, but were not so no need to give Brendan more stick for something Tha is out of his control

20 May 2015 09:54:18
Its proved to be the case he can't attract world class talent hasn't it? Talk of player unrest and BR's treatment of some of them surely means that the issue is BR.

{Ed002's Note - The term "world class" is subjective in the extreme and if you asked the fan-base to list a "word class" team only a handful of players might be common across the lists. Clubs do not look at players in the same way the supporters do - they are not looking=ng for "world class" players but for players who will (a) fit in with the club, (b) fit in with the squad, (c) who will improve the team when picked, (d) want to play for the club, and (e) are affordable.}

20 May 2015 10:35:30
Certainly understand that Ed002, was just reusing the term in my response that the previous poster used himself. I certainly understand where we are at in terms of looking at players coming in.

20 May 2015 10:45:10
How's it been proved brisban?

We have only gone to past the intial bid as far as we know with sanchez and he chose arsenal for location? was that true eds?

The other we know we had interest in Costa, Willian, mkhitaryan didn't even get past the intial bids for them to actually.reject us over rodgers.

I'm not complaining about our model or who we tartarget as I do think it will bring long term success but I don't think Brendan deserves to have us blame him.for not "attracting" the big names/world class players.

{Ed002's Note - All of this is history that has been done to death.}

20 May 2015 13:04:04
Kop 11 where are anzhi now?

19 May 2015 20:49:23
Hi ed01 if your around I know your prob getting bombarded with similar type questions but if you had a moment to give your gut feel into what management changes you see happening This summer. My gut feeling is we are stuck with Brenda for a while longer asit seems there is no leads or anything coming out of the club so close to the end of the season. We know the club are conducting a top to bottom review and we were told as early as November that tis included rogers position. 6 months on and it's the only area of the club where changes haven't been made. Ed2 is saying that the owners are taking advice and how they won't be swayed by one result and because of the review it may rule klopp out but my point is that it's been 6 months of advice and come next Monday he should be gone

{Ed001's Note - I can't see what reasonable intelligent person could possibly think, if they had access to behind the scenes information, that Rodgers should still be in a job. If nothing else his tactical failings, so badly exposed in Europe, should see him receive his marching orders. I don't understand why it has taken so long. When he failed to understand what Basel were doing after the first game against them, and still failed to figure out during the second match, needing to sit down and analyse it afterwards, that should have seen him booted out immediately. No half decent, let alone top quality, manager should need more than 30 minutes of a game to figure out what the opposition are doing. So my gut feelings says he has to be gone, even if it is way too late and shows a lack of decisiveness that is coming to characterise FSG's time at Liverpool. Too many committees and not enough action.}

19 May 2015 23:25:07
If they do a six month review with his position under scrutiny and come out with announcements that BR will be kept, that would be a severe waste of time and six months we will never get back. They should have cut bait back then or simply say they would keep him and do nothing. What I can't understand is that with the Red Sox, the owners don't play and act decisively YET with LFC, they dither and form committees that don't accomplish a thing (see TC). At another big club, they would have already had his replacement on deck like Utd did with LVG.

19 May 2015 23:26:46
If that was true noone would lose! Its one thing identified how to stop a system but then actually stopping it!

And all the managers who faced in the pomp pep Barcelona only one actually found a way to really stop them without parking the bus an praying you don't concede (even tho that is a method) but bielsa your man eds was the one who found.a system to stop them and pep "copied" it when Bayern played Barcelona!

The above doesn't make the others managers bad does it?

And how long did it take other teams to figure us.out when we adopted the same system? We got figured out but not for something like 13 games, and considering it should be 30 mins and then your sacked! We should have got 13 managers sacked!

20 May 2015 02:20:02
Do you think FSG will appoint a committee to conduct a review of how the top to bottom review went? I appreciate sound business, but if an employee isn't performing well enough, and in fact costing you money and embarrassing the business, you get rid of them asap.

20 May 2015 04:24:58
What?

20 May 2015 06:36:10
The owners love baseball, it's their passion.
LFC is not, they knew nothing about football when they bought us. Hence the difference in their actions. With LFC they need advisors and committees and do everything remotely, with the Red Sox it's completely the opposite.

20 May 2015 07:59:48
They need committees to deal with committees and have meetings about meetings about meetings.

20 May 2015 09:17:23
Austin, I am assuming that the 13 games you are referring to is our unbeaten run this season? Did you actually watch the performances during that run? I am guessing not, as while we were collecting the results during the unbeaten run, majority of the performances were pretty rubbish, nothing different from the whole season. Bar a few wonder strikes here and there during the run, it would have ended much sooner than the 13 games it went for.

20 May 2015 10:52:32
Brisbane my point wasnt that we were winning but more that it took 13 games to properly figure us out, and prior to that ed had said that if a manager can't figure out the system and react to In 30 mins they should be sacked so I pointed out that 13 mangers should of lost there.jobs because they.didn't figure.us our in 30mins.

I can see your very anti rodgers which is fine but read through posts properly before you post back.to them :)

21 May 2015 09:22:39
If you twist people's words enough you can really make them have said anything can't you?? The ed said with Liverpool against Basel. it wasn't like Accrington Stanley against Barcelona. we had the quality on the pitch that night regardless of the manager to win both of those so the players take some blame too. but clearly the eds main point was saying over 180 minutes against that opposition given the circumstances we were in the performances were not acceptable. and again have some context it is not like every other game we are blowing teams away or even playing well. I think I have been truly satisfied with a performance 3 times this season.

{Ed001's Note - lfc18, if you think it took 13 games for teams to figure us out, then you need your eyes tested! We had been figured out long before and scraped results due to some stunning strikes from distance. Look at the Swansea game, for instance, they had us in all sorts of trouble, just lacked the quality to put it in the back of the net.}

19 May 2015 22:16:30
Sterling fiasco on the news at ten, what a full scale mess. Well done FSG another PR triumph

19 May 2015 22:23:18
I'd imagine the owners aren't involved personally with the PR department of the club Red Wool, they'll sort it out but don't blame them for what was most likely another's mistake, if anything their faith in their staff has been rewarded with disappointment.

19 May 2015 23:13:11
It's the owners fault. Simply because it's always the bosses fault. They picked the manager, they picked the committee, they blindly allow our club to sell it's best players and give massive amounts of money to clowns to go buy terrible players. They are good owners! But cannot be ruled out of any blame mate

19 May 2015 23:27:06
They are partly to blame because the more they dither and don't snuff this out ASAP, the worst we and they will look in the media

19 May 2015 21:42:24
the first thing the owners have to do is not sack Rodgers or hire klopp. That is secondary

It Is to Protect the club and players. There has to be a severe code of conduct put in to stop players talking to the media without the club's permission. And if it is implace to harsly improve it.And we seem to have every ex player knowing what is happening from the insIde. They also should be nowhere near the club if they do not work with the club.
I do not gI've a toss about Rodgers atm.his time was up along time ago.
The club is being torn apart by the media because they have been given meat to feed on. We are a laughing stock. Look at sterling now. He is being slaughtered. His agent we all know is a disaster but this all came about by the club and manager.
What's happening at Chelsea, arsenal or united? It's quiet because they run a club properly. De gea looks set to leave but look at van gals support to him while addressing the media and do you see his fans turning on him even of he wants to leave ? Nobecause united handled it like a top club.
Were are the leaders in the dressing room too? I said months ago henderson was not a leader especially when we were in a bad patch he was like many nowhere to be seen in sorting out the players.
The entire club is a mess. But it can and should be sorted this summer. We need a manager and winner to take over, the committee needs over hauled and the owners need to employ better advisors and a top PR person to keep the club looking in a professional manner.

19 May 2015 22:19:27
I'm sure the players wouldn't talk to the media unnecessarily, before approaching the club if they have a problem, with Sterling I suspect he may have felt he had to put across his circumstances and 'put the record straight' so to speak in response to the demonizing of him by the media, mind certain players probably would ignore it anyway, not everyone is a true professional.

19 May 2015 23:31:31
Awesome post, BR! We seem to bungle almost every single thing in the public eye and have an uncanny knack for airing our dirty laundry with the help of our clueless managers like Rafa and now BR. Pathetic attitude by the club and as long as we keep repeating our mistakes, we will continue to be nothing but a big club turne punch line in the media

19 May 2015 21:19:58
Lfc tv muting the sterling speech in account of the boos . Like we all knew he would be

19 May 2015 21:40:25
I personally think it's shameful that we are booing him based off of reports in the media.

19 May 2015 22:19:49
Agree Tj ; planes, booing and impatience.

What has happened to our fan base?

19 May 2015 22:22:18
I think he's a grown up boy and he's laid he's own path . That bbc interview and the leaking of it all . It's Suarez without the bite . Obv we know about Rodgers etc . But saying he's been bullied is rubbish . Plus all this agent talk ! He's able to think for himself . He could have waited till the season is over to seek talks .

20 May 2015 06:28:24
Booing him is just daft though. We have a poor manager whose future is still undecided (meaning he could stay), a player in Sterling who has been misused on the pitch and, through combination of bad management and bad PR, been allowed to draw a huge amount of attention to himself off it. As a club we have failed spectacularly in every competition we've been in this season and been miles away from silverware - Sterling is hardly a boyhood red or a local lad so, unlike say the Gerrards and Flannagans and Carraghers, doesn't have that same affinity. That isn't to say he doesn't like the club - but expecting absolute loyalty in the face of all these issues is ridiculous. Most ambitious players would be questioning their future at Liverpool in the current climate - booing a player for doing so simply alienates said player. Ridiculous.

19 May 2015 20:19:10
Long time reader first time poster or Liverpool looking at anyone defensively at the moment for next season or is this too premature to talk about? Sorry if this has already been spoken about.

{Ed002's Note - Read the posts please.}

19 May 2015 18:59:50
Eds, I've just read that Ings has rejected us and will sign for Moyes Real Sociedad in Spain. You got any update on that please?

{Ed002's Note - Twitter again?}

19 May 2015 19:12:01
No mate I'm not on Twitter. Just something a mate just text me.

{Ed002's Note - Ask him and stop bothering me with it.}

19 May 2015 19:45:26
He doesn't no. i guess he must follow twatter. Good to have you back with us. Youve been missed mate. Xxx

19 May 2015 20:10:19
I mentioned a few weeks back that a mate of mine was drinking with Ings and he said his preferred club was us.

19 May 2015 20:35:17
So what name do you go by? Dezmondo or Scousebag? Or is it a ploy to look as if you're only asking half the questions?

19 May 2015 20:56:45
Wouldn't we owe Burnley a fee for Ings due to his age?
Whereas Sociedad can get him for free.

19 May 2015 22:02:32
We'd owe burnley 4-5mil were as real would owe around 500-600 grand.

Something like that anyway

19 May 2015 18:32:52
I'm hearing Rodgers will be down at the docks after the weekend, apparently he'll be taking a look at a 'shipment' of anti aging cream the owners have thrown in for him, the plan is he'll be shipped via container to Lagos. He should get a nice tan down there managing C.O.D United FC. :D *Don't take too seriously*

19 May 2015 18:18:53
Hi ends just wondering if I've done anything to offend anyone hee as my last 3 post haven't gone up. If so then I apologise as I hadn't realised I've caused offence

{Ed001's Note - they haven't come through, unless they were directed at Ed002, in which case they will be held for him and she will pick them up when he is about.}

19 May 2015 18:51:32
Cheers ed, was wondering what I could have said

19 May 2015 19:28:49
Cheeky change of pronoun there!

19 May 2015 17:54:50
Klopp to LFC, Rafa to Real Madrid, Ancelotti to City.

19 May 2015 18:28:09
Rafa at Real :-) that's funny to see riots within and shirts being burned within a month, and that's just the players

19 May 2015 20:57:48
Pellegrini to Napoli?

19 May 2015 17:19:36
Losing Sterling is not the worrying factor.
What is more concerning is WHY,, i hope it's money,, because if it truly is that he feels he can't succeed at Liverpool then there is something massively wrong within the club

19 May 2015 17:51:56
There is something massively wrong with the club tho! A CL win in 2005 and some minor trophies over the last 20 odd years show this. Numerous different managers have made no difference in the persuit of the "holy grail"

19 May 2015 18:03:14
We're the ninth richest club in the world, with a manager that wouldn't fit in the top 100 and players for a top 40-50 team, most of whol we massively overpaid for. Great teams need great players. Time for FSG to smell the coffee and realise this is football, not batball.

19 May 2015 18:26:53
The only sensible way I can't think of why this has happened is!

He is true to his word and it is about ambition and tropihies etc.

Now the club almost won the league last year, could of been in two finals this year. City have won nout, arsenal still might not, same for man u, and Chelsea did win Tha league or something haha

But they are all showing that they are going towards that with there transfers each window, we all not each will invest what 100 mil this summer!

And the only thing I can think of is him and/or his representatives have spoken to Liverpool about there plans in the transfer market and its targets like ings, Milner etc (which doesn't inspire any of us, let alone a kid on the dressing room looking around going we need a world class forward and I - aa much as he might so well - don't think ings is what you want to hear without someone like vietto following him in)

That's all I can come up with he has asked for or looked for signs of ambition inside the club and isn't happy with the answers.

But what negates that for me is the commitments of sturridge, coutinho, Henderson who will also what to win trophies.

The other side for me is for example sterling has another indifferent campaign like this year noone is going to pay what he's asking for, so he could just be trying to get him move whilst he is still (a future worldy, because himself or his agent might think if we don't fo for it now we won't get the chance again)

19 May 2015 18:42:30
he wants to win trophies constantly,play cl football,doesnt liked been bullied. time to leave.ur club can't meet his requirements. goodbye

19 May 2015 20:54:12
Roberto, go back to your depressing bluenose page please. No banter ever comes from you and tbh how can it, your club has had a terrible season, maybe not so much for you guys but let's face it you where relegation candidates at one point. Your manager is far worse than ours and you'll never win anything again. So hush that beak and stick to your own page. Btw miralles is leaving your club for the same reason, bloody miralles lol. Blue joke

19 May 2015 21:24:09
the one who turned your team down,how much your manager spent.look forward to thurs nights nex season we will back above you next season

19 May 2015 22:03:06
Yeah. We dodged a bullet there Roberto. Martinez makes Rodgers look like Mourinho. Good luck with that.

19 May 2015 23:50:27
Hey bluenose, have your pathetic team and crap manager who is a pro at fighting relegation more than playing the CL, escaped the drop yet? because that seems to be your lot every year bar the one which happens every ten years where you come fifth. Stick to you club that hasn't seen a trophy, not even the Pl in twenty years. There's a reason your team is called Neverton.

19 May 2015 17:08:05
I think we can safely say Sterling is a goner. The loss of Suarez without a like-for-like replacement is probably interpreted by him that the club lacks ambition. Luckily we have Ibe - but iof the same problems exist then the same thing will happen which means in a couple of years we'll be saying 'luckily we've got Sinclair'.

FSG are at a crossroads now. With the potential easing of FFP, FSG will have to realise that success in the Premier League (and thus access to Champions League) means buying big players and keeping the best of your own crop.

Liverpool have the fifth largest turnover in the Prem and are in fifth place. That in itself tells a story.

19 May 2015 17:38:11
FSG needs to get things right this summer, and it most certainly is last chance saloon. They have been very very supportive so far, but they have made plenty of mistakes, and LFC don't want another one. They need to get the management right and appoint the right manager, that's the first step.

19 May 2015 17:45:04
RL, not even certain we will remain 5th either.

19 May 2015 17:56:51
I know kpm, it's shameful that on the last match weekend of the season we are relying on winning away at Stoke and on Everton & Man City to beat Spurs and Southampton if we don't.

19 May 2015 17:59:15
As i have said numerous times AG. FSG are not above criticism. They hired Rodgers who was more or less completely unqualified to take over Liverpool. Dazzled by a big dossier and a bit of Northern Ireland charm had them weak at the knees. Do Fsg use the same "advisors" as the last time? Would you use them again? Get the right man in charge and a lot of other things will fall into place. Pay the extra money to get a top manager. Sell a player if they are skint to pay his wages. Do something for dear sake. Just don't saddle us with another untried, untested manager at out club. We deserve better.

19 May 2015 20:20:03
Time for the boot room.

Time for the spirit of Bob Paisley as well as Shankly.

FSG are obviously impressed with smooth talkers.

Well they should listen to rough talkers that are down to earth.

I have supported Liverpool since 1965.

Who on earth are their advisers ?

20 May 2015 06:40:02
Yes Yuri just what we need, to keep romanticizing the past, because we don't do that enough.

I don't mean to be sharp but I wish, just once, that we as a club would look forward instead of backwards.

19 May 2015 16:46:49
Good afternoon all Eds and Reds

Anything positive to post today at all please? Anything at all? Must be something.

{Ed001's Note - the stadium is progressing well.}

19 May 2015 17:08:47
Brendan's tan is coming on. Botox next.

19 May 2015 17:11:25
Lol love it Ed, nice one mate. It won't be ready for next season will it?

{Ed001's Note - sadly it won't all be completed then no.}

19 May 2015 17:20:54
I'll bet my pension that although it will be started under FSG, they won't be the owners when it's finished.

19 May 2015 16:40:44
I am really worried that who is the player we can look up to.

We always had influential players over last decade.

I started watching liverpool with owen effect, then I found a beast in Gerrard, Class in alonso, grace in Torres and pour brilliance in suarez(best player ever to play at anfield one of a kind,,, Barca nearing treble).

With Gerrard leaving I cannot find a player we can look up to.

BR learnt it from suarez that he need a leader by which team can revolve around.

He found it as coutinho as the season started, who was no where to be seen in 1st half of the season starting rodger's trouble, none of his signings also clicked leaving BR in dilemma.

Later Rodgers changed his tactics and determined Sterling as his key player (sent him on vacation) and changed his formation to suit him.

After a run of from, he also lost it(leaving us short off top 4 pursuit)

Again rodger's main signing "lallana" is always out injured.


Liverpool need to have a player who is less injury prone, keep consistency on performance and can lead the way upfront.

Liverpool has raw talents and injury lists but no one to rely upon may be A. Sanchez esque player.


Nevermind the age, I will be even glad to see Di Natale upfront :) :)

19 May 2015 19:48:06
Another fan clamouring for marquee signings. Wow.

I wouldn't worry, heroes are often made when there is nobody else left to step up. I am sure some players will surprise us next season.

20 May 2015 06:48:53
@Jerrin

Look to Coutinho and Henderson - a quality, hardworking core that could run the midfield for years to come.

Look to the youth in Ibe and Markovic - players who have been on the periphery but show big potential and, under the right regime, could shine.

Look to Sakho and Lovren - a potentially strong CB pairing who have been so woefully mishandled by Rodgers that he has made them player much worse. Under a quality manager they will improve.

Look to Sturridge - a man injured this season but, when on form, capable of getting goals in any situation.

Look to the academy - if we find a manager brave enough to turn to it there are rough diamonds who may just step up - and personally I always find it more satisfying to see a player make the grade, I think all the fans root for these players a little more.

Look to the future - splurging lareg sums of money has so far failed. This suggests we need a change in tact. let's hope for responsible, wise ownership and with it responsible, wise transfers. Quality is important but so is finding the right player, the right fit, and these sorts of players need not cost the world. Our investment, our transfers, need to be smart - spending a load of money of a single player because we "need quality" will help nobody.

Look past the current manager - he has failed, even if Suarez was still here I don't think we'd have won a trophy, not with the system employed this season. At best we might have hit 4th. He has failed, we need to look to the future, to a quality manager prepared to make big decisions, prepared to be brave. A manager prepared to drop under performing veterans, a manager prepared to give hard working youth prospects a fair crack at the whip.

The club is in a dark place at the moment - but turning it around is not some impossible dream - there is still potential but great things.

19 May 2015 16:36:39
Hey ed001!

I have two questions if I may!

1) do you reckon that BR will be replaced after what you revealed yesterday about unrest in the squad?

2) do you know if Jordon Ibe's contract extension is done? I read somewhere that it will be announced this week?

Cheers

{Ed001's Note - I don't think the recent events are relevant to the decision Gordon is making.
Ibe should be done and dusted and announced any day now.}

19 May 2015 19:07:38
Ed001- who is Gordon and how come he is so involved with the changes process? As for a decision would you be more inclined to thinking Rodgers will be going in the summer or do you think we're stuck for another shocking season

{Ed002's Note - He is the man who is effectively running the club.}

19 May 2015 21:26:11
Cheers ed002 hopefully he can make the correct decision

19 May 2015 16:23:04
Eds, been reading that vidal has been linked i believe this to be papers looking for a story to sell papers because of stevie leaving.

My question is could vidal be a viable option can't imagine him being cheap but the figure floated round seems to be not what you would expect.

Thanks

{Ed001's Note - Arturo Vidal? Only in my wet dreams. We should have gone for him years ago but no one listened back then when I raved about him. Now he is established as a world star we have no chance, even with his knee problems.}

19 May 2015 16:06:55
Hi Ed,
If Arsenal do come in for Sterling, would Walcott be a feasible part of any deal? Thanks

{Ed001's Note - it is difficult to do swap deals, so I wouldn't expect it to be done like that.}

19 May 2015 17:38:06
It`s either for Sanchez or straight cash or they can jog on.

19 May 2015 15:56:18
Sterling is a very promising young player. The problem with young players is that they are prone to being very inconsistent. I think we can agree Raheem hasn't had the best of seasons, but the problem is that we have relied on him too much. Other than Coutinho (who is young and inconsistent himself) nobody else has been able to pick up the mantle when Sterling is having a dip in form. If Sterling played for Chelsea, or City his inconsitency wouldn't be so obvious because he would have team mates able to help him out when needed. So the fact that he wants to leave doesn't suddenly make him a bad player, that being said, I'm not too worried about Sterling leaving. I think we already have players in the squad capable of more than covering Sterlings departure. My worry is what Rodgers is going do with the money. For me, Coutinho is the one we really need to build a side around not Sterling. I think we desperately need a top class striker and keeper, but Rodgers will probably go chasing another young AMC, a position which we are already well stacked in. I know the Eds see a defensive midfielder as a must, but I would like to see Can given that chance, I know he's more of a box to box player, but alongside Henderson that's a lot of running, energy.

19 May 2015 17:43:31
BR should be sacked if you`re going to keep the vvery few good players we have because players don`t hang around dithering clubs.

19 May 2015 15:06:59
When Moyes was not working at United they got rid of him and got in an experienced manager with a proven track record - yes they have spent money - so have we, but Van Gaal we get them back challenging next season and players will want to play for him as he is a big name in euro football.

Am I right?

19 May 2015 15:36:10
im only interested in liverpool i'm not interested what man utd does or does not do , i could not care less about them liverpool is in such a mess with the manager who picks players to play out of position and we have a child holding the club to ransom , making us look weak and a laughing stock, if he was any good i would understand but he is not also we have better players coming through

19 May 2015 15:56:28
I wish people would stop using Utd as some kind of barometer for success and hailing Van Gaal as being an exmaple for us to follow.

The last I checked they were pretty pants too. Considering our season has been a disaster, we were pretty close to them just a few weeks back. All their 'big money' signings have been gathering more splinters than our crop.

They have been trash all season and picked up a little towards the end, but let the Van Gaal bandwagon keep rolling on, because I don't see them getting close to the title any time soon.

19 May 2015 16:16:03
We will get closer than you lot you're best players are going to jump ships and leave you lot fighting for mid table at best

19 May 2015 16:37:30
@Dazw

You may indeed get closer but you're still a pretty poor outfit.

That's a cast iron fact sir.

19 May 2015 14:49:23
Hi just thought I'd mention that Macca did suggest the players are still in favour of the boss.

19 May 2015 16:23:09
That won't go down too well with some on here, they only want to hear people rubbishing Rogers They are not interested in things like facts if it doesn't suit their way of thinking

{Ed001's Note - so what do you call a fact? Is it a rumour that suits your way of thinking?}

19 May 2015 18:54:51
Macca gave his opinion as he saw it and nothing more. he did not claim it to be facts and BTW, the players have NO say in the matter because they are employees who are paid to do a job and paid to air their opinions on who manages them.

19 May 2015 14:25:42
The real problem with the Sterling episode is that it is creating a swirl of unrelated and nonsensical speculation dragging in John W Henry and the manager. The kid (for that is what he is in many aspects) simply acting out a fantasy that sees him dragged into the Real Madrid circus and emulating others of that well known celebrity team - incidentally, a carousel that throws off stars as soon as they've used up their star status coupons. (Odergaard is a Sterling clone and both will be singed by the Spanish sun!)

What is irksome about all this mess is that there are questions about BR: he was not really the high-profile manager LFC should have had in the first place. Now it's a matter of repairing the damage wrought by an excellent coach but average man-manager. Too much talk about replacements - Klopp and other high profile managers at this stage. I suspect Klopp has been landed by another club (unless JWH has been hard at work as we speak!) and yet the usual suspects fill the name games.

I've been staggered for years by the sport that is the only place of work I can think of where you can be sacked for poor 'performance' - for that's what losing is if you take the manager's salary and call yourself the boss - and walk into a job at another club! "He was useless at ABC United and got them relegated, but hey, let's make him our manager and ask him to spend £20 million of our money!"

Football in crisis? Not when you can cover up all our mistakes with cash. And you thought F1 was predictable and boring.

19 May 2015 13:32:33
What a mess.

My take on the current situation is that having followed this site for the last couple of years both ed 001 and ed002 know what they are talking about andthey are both of the opinion that Brendan has to go.

Having looked at our issues over the season I agree with them.

The problem will come in getting the right man to replace him. For my part I always wanted Klopp and I still do. I just think he will come into the club and be a modern day Bill Shankly.

If FSG are taking advice then surely Klopp's name will have figured. We know that it is really difficult to get any inside information on what is going on given that the control of the club is dealt with by Hogan the London office and the guys in Biston so how do we know one way or another whether wheels are not turning with a view to sorting things out?

Given how the Boston Red Sox were sorted out I would be really surprised if Brendan has been able to persuade the owners that he should get another season in charge.

My feeling is that Brendan will be sent packing. My hope is we get Klopp through the door. If not Jurgen then I don't know. None of the other possibilities excites me really.

I would be pretty unhappy to have a new season with Brendan messing about playing people out of position.

Lucas should be our captain and first name on the team sheet when fit. He is a top class footballer and a brilliant role model for our club.

We should make it a priority to bring our academy players through. Get at least one of them on the subs bench every game and give them game time whenever it can be done. Show the youngsters we are serious about wanting them to be the way forward.

Let's just get it all sorted out before the new season starts.

19 May 2015 14:10:03
I agree with you sadly photos are emerging of Klopp in a Turkish airport for talks with Fenerbache, but my take was always give Rodgers til the end of the season and if we haven't qualified for Champions League or won a trophy then his time is up, which imo it is

19 May 2015 14:25:31
Your right. What a mess indeed.all rival fans are having a right good laugh at us. The whole thing is a joke and ots mainly down to one man who looks like keeping his job!

19 May 2015 14:28:44
I agree quite a bit with Ed001.

I believe he favours Bielsa?

Whilst Klopp would be a good addition there are other top class PROVEN managers out there.

I believe Ed002 favours Schmidt. Yet there could also be Unai Emery. Ancelotti(if available).
Klinnsman I am not sure about. Rafa on a short term contract.
Yet there are others.

If FSG are as successful as has been mentioned here. I believe they will look at things thoroughly.

My immediate concern is some of our best players leaving the club because of uncertainty.

Telling anybody in the club about decisions, is a problem, because of intrusive media.

19 May 2015 16:48:25
Don't forget Stevie Nicol.

19 May 2015 18:24:36
Not all down to rodgers, he didn't hire himself, miss management of players sent on loan etc. Poor leadership from the top right down and nobody seemingly learning from their mistakes.

19 May 2015 12:40:22
Hi Ed001,

Are there any "under-the-radar" players which you would like to see us sign?

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - good question that one, I will put together something for the others page, like I did with our U21s, so I can give a proper answer. It will give me time to go through a few squad lists from teams to put some in my mind, as under the radar players don't get mentioned and so aren't at the forefront of your mind.}

19 May 2015 13:11:27
Eds. Is it true FFP is to be relaxed now and allow rich owners to give funds, not loan, but donate?

How will this impact Liverpool, as the current top 4 have this option but also FSG had this FFP in their grand plan to compete.

Will they look to sell up seeing as unable to go toe to toe.

{Ed002's Note - It is not really like that - but I answered this earlier on the Chelsea page and perhaps here.}

19 May 2015 12:45:46
hi eds what do you think is the realistic price liverpool will say they will take for sterling its not good for anyone involved in the club to be constently in the press the way we are we are becomeing a laughingstock

{Ed002's Note - I really have no interest in discussing money.}

19 May 2015 13:17:00
Im expecting a lot of disagrees but I think he'll be sold for around the 20m mark. I'd be surprised if anyone paid much more considering a poor season and now becoming a Suarez-style thorn in the clubs' side.

19 May 2015 13:40:01
Hardly a thorn, he's basically done a misjudged interview and now it's been said he wants to move on. If he stays then great, he could develop into a great player.if he wants to go then he should go. It will be for a lot more than 20 mil. Full England international and only 20. Milner went for 25 mil 5 years ago.

19 May 2015 12:38:40
eds do you think BR will be fired this season. I am a liverpool fan for 20 plus years and to see our club going thru this is not good. personally i think he must pack his bags and go

{Ed002's Note - My opinion is that he should be moved on. Macca has suggested he will stay. We'll see.}

19 May 2015 12:52:13
Decisions need to be made quickly. We near a precipice.

What if Lucas and Coutinho followed Sterling out of the club?

We would we be then?

I fear for the future.

19 May 2015 13:11:47
The Liverpool Echo are also stating that he will stay but as they are a mouthpiece for the club I don't believe them. I believe the club must move Brendan on for the long term good of the club. The longer he stays, the more damage he will do with players etc.

19 May 2015 12:14:13
Sorry but the Sterling situation is totally down to BR
Last season he was a great player flying at defenders scoring goals very hard to defend or play against.
This season playing at wing back tracking back defending cover the woeful centre backs.
Same can be said for Ibe,Lallana,Markovic.
He's destroying our best players by playing them out of position and insisting on playing Allen and Skrtel.
His stubbornness to take advice on his defence has caused massive issues and could come back to haunt him(I hope).
Wing backs are generally full backs who attack well are good on the ball(Johnson & Moreno)not wingers or attacking midfielders.

A change of manager and coaching staff with the introduction of a DOF would make a massive improvement to the team next season without any new players.

Just one more point if Balloteli was bought by the committee/owners against BR wishes then we are in a real mess,I would never dream that this would happen a Liverpool.

19 May 2015 12:38:14
Well its not totally down to Rodgers. Sterling's agent is having a massive input.

19 May 2015 12:45:17
Tottaly down to BR? No. Rodgers has meddled and handled things badly as usual, but Sterling is no baby and he knows exactly what he wants.

19 May 2015 13:38:21
No matter what league you play or whatever age you are if you are a good player not playing in your preferred position but winning things and being successful you will stay.

If you are a good player continually played out of position and not winning things you will leave to a team and manager that will.simple.

19 May 2015 13:39:33
Everyone is to blame including SG who should have just deflected the question instead of messing w/ other people`s money because no one ever messed with his when he was negotiating his contracts to become the highest paid player at the club, tbh. But BR and the club made this a circus in the media and that is where the issue is being fought out.

19 May 2015 11:52:41
Hi Eds, if Rogers where to go do you think fsg will appoint Klinsman I believe they wanted him befor BR but turned us down in favour of USA team

{Ed002's Note - If and when Mr Rodgers leaves the club will have a number of people that they will look to approach and talk with.}

19 May 2015 12:30:20
Right now I'd take Klinnsman over Rodgers. At the very least he would attract better players in the key positions we need. Being a former striker it's highly likely he would play one in the team too.

19 May 2015 14:11:43
I would not. he isn`t that good and is only here in the U.S because no other club would take him as he was a failure at Bayern and he would never move away from California where he is settled sice he retired almost 20 years ago. He is just as big a control freak and a dictator as Rafa is and the U.S don`t know any better when it comes to soccer management so they just deal with it. he should stay exactly where he is.

18 May 2015 17:11:25
hi ed02 I read on euro page that fsg have advisors and they have not suggested klopp to them I no your probably sick of the word klopp but my question is do u think these advisors are any good? because surely they should suggest him even if he turns us down?

{Ed002's Note - The fans just flip-flop between one idea and the next. I cannot rationalise your expectations.}

19 May 2015 16:21:29
my question was are the advisors any good?

19 May 2015 16:21:29
my question was are the advisors any good?

{Ed002's Note - I have no way to measure goodness.}

19 May 2015 11:34:41
Hi Eds,

I was wondering whether Berahino will be staying at West Brom this summer, and whether Liverpool have any interest? Also who is James Milner most likely to choose out of Liverpool, Man City and Arsenal?

Thanks in advance, doing an awesome job!

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any Liverpool interest in Berahino. Milner really has been done to death - and I have nothing to add to what has been said.}

19 May 2015 11:19:03
Eds
Bas Dost has had a great season. Which teams are interested?

{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages.}

19 May 2015 11:16:46
Hello Eds.

Ed002 why do u rate Roger Schmidt as a good head coach?

Eds what is your opinion on our scouting system & why don't we follow the system used by Juventus in Identifying and buying players?

THANKS.

{Ed002's Note - (a) Try the search engine. (b) The scouting system has been revamped this season already.}

18 May 2015 19:18:24
So ed UEFA are looking into relaxing the FFP rules to allow more owner iinvestment.

Would that come into effect this summer?

Thanks

{Ed002's Note - Right now UEFA are trying to deflect a legal challenge and are looking to relax the investment that can be made – but are still aware that they need to deal with other issues, most notably the capping of television income and sponsorship. UEFA has spoken to a number of clubs but have generally not found them supportive – all three English sides spoken to are against the plans to relax the investment cap. However, UEFA has now turned to the association of European clubs and they are keen to have some input. They are traditionally ignored but they have been actively discussing this issue with UEFA. However, they are excluded from the discussions that UEFA and specific clubs have with each other – and it is that forum that will eventually settle on the more critical television revenue and commercial sponsorship caps. There will regardless be a relaxation this summer, but it may not be sustained without ratification – and that won’t happen anytime soon. None of this will be good for the English sides. The worry UEFA has that the two potentially largest beneficiaries both play in the French league.

19 May 2015 14:54:51
PSG and AS Monaco?

{Ed002's Note - Right.}

19 May 2015 11:10:36
Ed 1 would love a response from you, failing that Ed 2 will suffice ;). I have been on this website for too many years to remember. I appreciated the owners are doing a good job and want the best for the club. It should also be noted that they have a lot of money invested into the club so those saying they have lost interest need to get some perspective.

The clubs seems to be a shambles at the moment, at least from the outside looking in. Eds it has recently been said that the club do not at the moment appear to be making any managerial movements or steps towards it i.e. assessing managerial candidates and I for one am with Ed 1 in that it seems baffling. In regards to the Raheem Sterling situation some people are so quick to blame Raheem but Rodgers has not made the situation any better with his verbal diarrhoea, I mean can he honestly just keep it shut for once? If my manager at work told me off for something and I kept ignoring them and doing it over and over again I would eventually be sacked, so what makes Rodgers feel invincible in that he just ignores the warning the owners have given him on numerous occasions.

My question is what needs to be done in your opinion, change of manager, change of players as the players are not up to standard required or change of coaching staff as the players are not being coached in order to maximise their skills and potential or the appointment of the infamous "DOF", I have my opinions, which is a managerial change is needed for starters but would like to hear the opinion of the Eds and also fellow Liverpool fans.

{Ed001's Note - in my opinion we need to change the coaching staff and manager, then let the new man make the decisions on the players.}

19 May 2015 11:56:42
BR will not leave now because getting rid of him will seem like a 20 year kid has called the tune. Whether you like BR or not, if you want change or not, this has put the Owners in a very difficulty situation. Personally I think Sterling's agent has been briefing the press to get to this situation and Liverpool haven't handled things as professionally as they should have. I agree BR should not have been responding to questions about contract talks but he was responding to questions. Similarly SG was asked about Sterling's contract situation and responded. Perhaps both should have batted away the questions but I do wonder why the press would keep asking questions about a 20 year old's contract

19 May 2015 17:13:03
No it will not be because BR`s blunders have been going on WAY before Raheems issues so your idea of a kid calling the shots is factually baseless. For me, the agent can do what he wants BUT the club have to remain respectful of the player and his wishes in order for the player to respect the club`s position so a middle ground can be reached. The club has disrespected and bullied him into signing a "fantastic contract" (dumb comment from BR)to the point that he is upset and money is no longer the issue as it NEVER was based on the Eds info. We are now reaping the rewards of ineptitude and incompetence so blaming him for this fiasco is wide off the mark.

19 May 2015 11:07:39
I know there are so many guys who don't rate Lallana but I think he will be a Liverpool great and his comments today on a very average season shows he understands what is expected of him from not only the club but himself. Looks like we have another who doesn't think he is a prima Donna.
Well done Adam, let's see your best next season.

19 May 2015 11:22:42
I expect him to put in better performances consistently next season. I expect significant improvement from other senior players like Lovren.

19 May 2015 11:37:37
Lallana will come good, he is a class act. Has been abit start stop for him this season but all being well next season he will hit the heights that's expected of him.

19 May 2015 11:46:28
Needs to be played in the silva role. Out wide he's just wasted and ineffective. Very talented boy though.

19 May 2015 13:16:32
I rate the guy, think that like Coutinho suits playing as a more attacking midfielder in a midfield 3, or behind the strikers as a no.10, can clearly play out wide but not quite pacy enough to ale the most of his talents.

19 May 2015 17:16:29
Lallana is the most Skillful English player in the EPL, hands down. He just needs to be fit and play a role consistent to his qualities and he will be great because he has shown us glimpses of what he can do.

19 May 2015 10:55:35
Raheem Sterling is poorly advised, Ridgers has played this out in the media and the club have handled this whole thing naively, but it doesn't take away the fact that Raheem Sterling has disrespected LFC on multiple occasions now, and at 20, he is no baby and knows how things work. There is no need for a player who doesn't want to be at LFC, sell him.

19 May 2015 11:24:11
100% agree. I don't want any player, regardless of how good they are, disrespecting the club. the manager could have kept his mouth shut at times. let's face it, the players and their agents hold all of the cards now. is this football that I was brought up with? no. getting fed up with managers who think they are the dogs b******s. players who think that they are the most important people on the planet. agents who are the cause of a lot of grief amongst us mere supporters. Academy players should be made to travel to away games with us mere morals. let them realise what it means to us. they may grow up into more decent players who realise just what it means to us. or, maybe they are all the same, fed up, long time, taken for granted payer of superstars wages.

19 May 2015 17:20:16
Barking up the wrong tree, guys. He is young, naive and prone to mistakes and bad advice. It was the club`s job to protect and look after him in a professional and sincere way. That wasn`t done. Worse, he was hung out to dry by the club and an incompetetent manager who used him as a distraction to cover up his own failings and now look what has happened. I will not blame a kid for doing kid stuff because it is the job of the club and the manager to step in and save himself from himself instead of using him as a sheild to cover for their blunders.

19 May 2015 07:54:56
Hi eds just a quick question regarding potential managers for next season. With BR's position under review and knowing a lot of the dressing room would be happy to see him gone, has the club had contact with any potential managers? Everyone would adore Klopp but I can't see it happening personally.

{Ed002's Note - This has been dealt with over and over.}

19 May 2015 10:21:15
right eds two quick questions which if possible I'd like quick short answers:
1. who would you realistically LIKE to replace Rodgers
2. who would you realistically LIKE to see replace Sterling

I quite respect and appreciate your honesty and opinion but at the same time I understand that what ever answer you give it will be scrutinised like hell!!!

{Ed002's Note - (a) Schmidt, (b) Pedro.}

19 May 2015 11:00:23
(a) Klopp (b) Vela

19 May 2015 11:08:37
Hi Eds,
Who is Schmidt, what club is he currently managing and why do you rate him if I may ask?
Many thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

19 May 2015 11:22:04
Bayer Levurkusen. He's done a job and a half.

19 May 2015 11:28:04
Unai Emery
Aubamayeng

19 May 2015 17:21:01
Reet is on the money there

19 May 2015 18:47:17
Thanks Cruyff

19 May 2015 10:14:33
Recently i read a reply by one of the Edds saying that Pogba left united because Fergie wanted him to sign with another agent.Iwonder was it because Fergie didn't like his agentor was it some other reason.Iask this because of the Sterling situation because there is no doubt in my mind that Sterlings agent is the main cause of what's happened.Having said that i think that Sterling has shown his true character and is on the slippery slide to nowhere icant accept any excuse about his age.As regards his present agent does he represent any other of our players if so i think we should do a Fergie and try to get them to change agents and its probably impossible but i would not entertain any player he represents

{Ed002's Note - I think you have misread something - that was not the reason Pogba left.}

19 May 2015 10:50:31
I don't think i was mistaken so i will ask the question again.Whe did Pogba leave united

{Ed002's Note - Because of some specific advice provided by his agent and another person.}

19 May 2015 10:18:18
I'm all for a player wanting to progress themselves and win trophies, but you have To ask yourself this raheem, where's your best position, along a front line, so;
Will you get in at arsenal ahead of Ramsey, Sanchez, theo, welbeck, giroud, no because they're all better. How about Man City, nasri navas silva aquero etc, no because they're all better. United? Di Maria Rooney mata rvp januaz Young Valencia, no because they're all better. Chelsea? Costa remy hazard cuad willian, no because they're all better. Madrid or barca? Hell no. Bayern? Lol. So the question i'd be asking, where do you actually want to go lad where you're going to get 90minutes at a club that will challenge for trophies?
The boy needs to give his head a wobble and actually think.

19 May 2015 10:32:48
Sterling is currently better than a fair few of those names mentioned. Navas,Nasri,Young,Valencia, janzuaj,Remy,Willian.

I really don't see how any of their performances in recent months/years have been better than Sterling since he broke into Liverpools first team.

For the record I'm not that bothered what happens with Sterling. I said I don't think he's as great as general Liverpool fans make out(I said this all the way back in September when every one still loved him.At the same time however I do believe he's performed better than a fair few of those players you have mentioned he couldn't replace.

19 May 2015 09:32:58
So as today is Sterling day
I will add my bit. Sterling has not got a clue, this is all down to his advisers. You can get this n that, play here. A 20 year old kid will not have the life knowledge to take everything into consideration. This is an agent/adviser who sees pound signs for himself. Yes Sterling is one of our best players but he is far from perfect. Going to a club where they have 11 other Sterling's could stall his carrier, but hey at least the agent gets his cut that's all that matter.
If he goes to the wrong club he could end up a Sinclair, Rodwell. just my opinion.

19 May 2015 10:01:13
100% agree with 99problems.

19 May 2015 10:10:57
The best place for sterling is at Liverpool but under another manager.
Seems like this latest leak is to try get rid of Rodgers, kids got some balls. However his head will be growing as well if he gets his wish.
Do we really need another player with too much power at the club?
I would be in 2 minds wether to sell him or not if I was the new manager coming in.

19 May 2015 08:19:14
My take on the Sterling situation,
For him to say in a bbc interview that you want to play with world class players every week and that we have good young players coming through when he is Still one of the young coming through himself is laughable, now there's no doubt Rodgers has done a terrible job in the media when it comes to the handling of our affairs and we know Sterling has been badly advised too but having had 3 kids myself and always being a fair judge of personality this kid is so above himself it's unreal, he's shown promise and no more, he's quick, so is Lennon, Walcott, ince, Ashley Young, is his finishing better, on a par, or worse than those players? You'd argue worse right now, his finishing is nothing short of woeful in the main, and his final ball and decision making is poor too,
I'm not posting this as a reaction to the bbc this morning I've thought this all season, the lad isn't good enough to make a difference and be classed as one our guaranteed starters, he's not worth 100k a week and he's not going to tear up the prem or anywhere else once he leaves, take the money, get some proven people at the club including a new manager and let's crack on because lads like this are causing us to be viewed in the second tier football sense and not at the top table
Big window and summer this one as this current set up dosnt cut it right through the club

19 May 2015 09:02:22
Which is why when we make a load of money on him, the club win. He will sit on some clubs bench and watch all the world class players play.

19 May 2015 08:12:39
Hi

So Carra say's on Sterling - "I think for his football development, he needs to stay at Liverpool. He doesn't need to move club - he needs to change his agent, that's what he needs to change."

So from a Mr Liverpool I can't disagree, shut up and play football.

I only hope it all gets sorted out. Only want the best for Liverpool and wherever it's best for Sterling (praying its Liverpool)

My guess is it's BR will be moved along.

19 May 2015 08:08:52
I cannot believe Sterling has gone to the media to say he wants to leave.

19 May 2015 09:39:12
Why not? Want to know how best to leave LFC see Suarez last year. Sterling to bite someone during last game, that's next.

19 May 2015 07:59:19
Lot's of poster seem to think we can fix the Sterling situation by sacking Rodgers. I do agree that if we can attract a good manager like Klopp then Brendan needs to go, but i also feel that once a player starts moaning about wanting to leave and doesn't want to fight for the shirt then they also need to go. Which is a shame because he is a big talent but I'd rather give the starting place to someone who will fight for it and has that hunger to excell, even if they are not as talented. Just my opinion.

19 May 2015 09:47:32
Not always the case look at Rooney
Fergie convinced him to stay an he puts everythin in
Players can be convinced Rodgers has to go it's tht simple

19 May 2015 10:22:55
And he held the club to ranson on more than one occasion and is now earning close to £300k per week. Would you convince Sterling to stay by offering him stupid money and making him the clubs highest earner. I wouldn't as he hasn't performed anywhere near the level to be rewarded to this degree and what message does that send to the other players when it comes time to renew contracts.

19 May 2015 06:06:18
Hi friends,

I know most of us are worried in the direction in which liverpool is heading to

Teamwise the better way to ho ahead will be sticking onto certain crop of players.

I am not going with "outstanding" group quality thing as BR say.

To me it is simple add players who can play consistent and less injury prone in pl.

And give chance to young group for cup competitions.

Players like henderson, skertel,sterling,can ,markovic,ibe, mignolet will certainly make this group. Bring other players who can complement them.

Play them in natural position, that is important, it is the simple thing which rodgers not doing. l strongly believe this will help to built a strong core.

Unfortunately there is no suarez , by we can build a team around.

19 May 2015 01:12:45
Can someone please explain to me this obsession with klopp? He took Dortmund from 2nd to fighting for relegation half the year to 7th. very similar to another team I know. So why do people think he would do any better here?

{Ed001's Note - because he has done a lot more than your post points out. His record over a long period of time is excellent.}

19 May 2015 01:20:58
Edd001 it's heartbreaking we have not even approached klopp yet. If Rodgers is our man then we have a probably but if he isn't we seem completely unprepared.

{Ed001's Note - it just seems the club want to go in a different direction, which I don't understand.}

19 May 2015 02:32:46
The fact that we are not even trying to get him is baffling.

19 May 2015 03:02:13
The OP conveniently fails to mention the strides BVB have made since 2008 as well as the two Bundesliga titles, and German Cups he has won before this average season (one where he will win at least one more trophy than BR) and how he made a name for himself by defying and beating big clubs like Bayern, Real and the like. Comparing Klopp,to BR is the poorest excuse for support for BR to be kept which smacks of desperation and dishonesty.

19 May 2015 03:58:14
lfcohio- To answer the question, I would recommend watching Dortmund play a few games. Klopp sets up his teams pretty well, his in-game management is good, and he makes good substitutions, all of which are things BR is suspect at. I watch Dortmund quite a lot, nearly as much as Liverpool, and even in this their worst season in a while, I have never seen them look anywhere near as disorganized as Liverpool have many times this season (e.g. against Villa and Palace) where we looked more like my over 40 Sunday League team than anything remotely of the Premier League standard.

In addition to which even in this admittedly poor season, Dortmund have already won one trophy and may well win another as they are in a Cup final.

19 May 2015 06:15:08
I think Klopp would pretty much unify all lfc fans, be great for box office and the quality of football. Do the right thing FSG!

19 May 2015 06:42:26
Apparently there is a genuine concern that Klopp's method has been "found out" after Dortmund's disastrous league campaign. That's why Klopp is not getting offers from "top " clubs.
This is what I have been told

19 May 2015 07:14:24
Jurgen has a difficult first interview question:

Owner: You publically asked to be released from your contract mid season because "you were no longer the best man to coach Dortmund". Why do you think you are the best man to coach my club?

He did himself no favours with his press statements about leaving Dortmund, he was hawking himself out all over Europe and it hasn't gone down very well.

19 May 2015 06:59:20
Ed001 do you know who the club are looking at as a potential replacement for BR? I can't see him being here much longer with the sterling situation and other players being unhappy and wanting him gone. I appreciate any reply. Thanks

{Ed001's Note - they haven't been looking as such, I don't know why they haven't, but it is true.}

19 May 2015 07:54:26
As opposed to Rodgers doing himself plenty of favors when in front of a camera, Ron?

{Ed001's Note - ah but he was hawking himself to people that would never have an interest in hiring him, such as Barcelona, on a daily basis, so that must be different.}

19 May 2015 08:39:02
Thanks for your reply Ed001. I would have thought the owners will need to make a new manager a priority now as you have confirmed several players are unhappy and want BR gone. It won't take long for the fans to really turn on him the way he is going and once the other stuff you mention comes out. I just hope we at least try for Klopp. No harm in asking him once the season is over.

19 May 2015 09:29:24
Adrianp74.can you please tell me who these players are that want him gone?,because I haven't heard one current player criticise him l.in fact quite the opposite I can understand if you want him gone but please don't make up facts to suit your argument

19 May 2015 09:48:28
Red since 64 - it's not me saying it. Ed001 has said this on the rumours page under one of the sterling based threads. I tend to believe the eds as they know far more than we do.

{Ed001's Note - pointless speaking to since 64, he just won't believe anything, even when it is proven true, unless it fits his beliefs.}

19 May 2015 09:52:59
I would imagine the following players would be amongst a list of 'unhappy players'

Sterling
Markovic
Can
Lovren
Borini
Lucas
Lambert
Manquillo
Balotelli

That's quite a list of players who 'potentially' dislike the manager.

Certain players will be because of game time, others constantly out of position and the rest never really given a proper chance.

19 May 2015 10:15:59
Thanks ed001 keep up the good work mate!

19 May 2015 00:13:09
Is Klopp a realistic target? Could he be convinced on the project by FSG? I'm sure there's more to it but are we attractive enough for him?

19 May 2015 00:02:36
Ed001 do you think now the Sterling situation is beyond salvageable?

{Ed001's Note - no, bring the right manager in and he could convince him to sign.}

19 May 2015 00:24:55
Thanks Ed, I really feel sorry for all the players if Rodgers can be like that, a real shame. :/ Anyway, keep up the good work. ;)

{Ed001's Note - he is just out of his depth.}