Liverpool Banter Archive November 19 2016

 

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19 Nov 2016 23:38:23
Top of league same points, same goal difference as favourites to win league, happy days need I say anymore.

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20 Nov 2016 12:02:34
Surprised you got dislikes for the truth lol but there you go, it is indeed happy days mate, I certainly have no complaints.


20 Nov 2016 13:02:51
We are more than in the mix for top 4, which MUST contito be the target. The title? We'll talk in April if we are still in the same position we are in now.


19 Nov 2016 22:21:41
I think I missed a memo and didn't know about a drinking game that was going on today which must've been down your drink every time the commentators mention Daniel Sturidge, for a guy who didn't play the majority of the match they sure did talk about him A LOT XD.

Believable7 Unbelievable1

19 Nov 2016 19:23:33
Evening Eds, pity to draw today but a draw away to Southampton is not all that bad as they will take points off the big teams there. Anyway, just wondering have you any info on how close grujic is to making the first team, I know he was a sub today and I thought he should have replaced wijnaldum as his height would cause problems from set pieces.

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{Ed001's Note - well he was a couple of inches away on the bench today.....}

19 Nov 2016 20:46:05
It's just a matter of time for the lad I think, I believe we'll be seeing more of him soon, will be interesting I think he can do well.


19 Nov 2016 22:00:22
I believe he isn't going to play much this season and with club monitoring midfielders makes it even harder for him and possibly Emre Can.
ED02 got it bang on with his assessment. There must be a reason club is watching Herrera.


19 Nov 2016 22:24:30
He'd better play him a decent bunch or he will have work permit issues for next season. I do think he's a talent and has shown flashes of abi, it's and skill in preseason and in the EFL game vs Spurs. The header vs Barcelona was just brilliant. Per the Hector Herrera links, I'd take those wi a pinch of salt.


19 Nov 2016 18:54:20
Not the result we wanted today boys but we will have these kinds of games this season.

We're an attacking team that likes to exploit spaces in behind teams unfortunately that means some teams will try to resist this by putting everyone behind the ball and defending well for 90 minutes - see today and Man Utd for recent examples.

Chin up boys! Hopefully we see Sturridge get some more game time over the next few weeks!

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19 Nov 2016 19:30:59
Stud be was actually very good today, IMO.


19 Nov 2016 19:31:18
I meant Studge.


19 Nov 2016 19:30:08
Its not a bad result and a tricky away fixture out of the way. No real reason to be concerned at all. Two premier league cames coming up that we hopefully should win. Its all good.


{Ed001's Note - I think people forget our record there is not that good, so it is not so bad at all.}

19 Nov 2016 20:48:10
And to your point Ed, it's a sign of changing times in our favor for the Saints to actually give up and choose not to compete with us from the off because they knew they could get a hammering, shows how teams now fear us, even on their own patch.


19 Nov 2016 20:53:43
To be fair I was worried we'd lose it so a point is fine by me, bring on Sunderland.

Still unbeaten in 10 games, it's not all doom and gloom :)


19 Nov 2016 22:02:08
Am I the only one who is ambitious for league title! I am disappointed we did not beat an awful Southampton. But let's move on.


19 Nov 2016 22:10:03
No you're not the only one who's ambitious Harry!

Just some of us aren't going to throw the dummy out every time we lose and call for knee jerk reactions.

Performance wasn't too bad, and hopeful still for the season.


19 Nov 2016 22:21:06
Thank you Puzzled.

Arguably our best chance in years to go real at the title and nothing else.

Let's do it!


19 Nov 2016 22:26:34
Took the words right off my keyboard, Puzzled. Harry, because we all don't post "special" comments like you, doesn't mean we don't want the title. Far from it, really.


19 Nov 2016 22:20:17
We got battered there last year, so getting a point is a huge improvement.


19 Nov 2016 22:42:23
Course it's a bad result, saints offered absolutely nothing and were there for the taking.


19 Nov 2016 22:58:04
so hard to break Southampton down when they set up for a point at home i was hoping they would play, a point away ill take with a little frustration but as many others on here have said its not too bad and we move on.


19 Nov 2016 23:11:34
Mr Naughty bad result? come off it, we got a point against a decent team, after the international break, a team who really needed a win, we did good, should've won it, but it's not about should've or could've or whatever the hell, we drew it, we didn't lose did we? We can't win every single game, we will lose some and we will draw some, that's football. Be all and end all is we're playing fantastic football, we're top (at the moment) and should we drop down tomorrow so be it we'll only be a point off.

If somebody had of said we'd be in this position at the beginning of the season after 12 games i'd of probably laughed at them out of been realistic, how about get behind the team and look to the next game? what's done is done, a good point (imo) let's look at getting another 3 agaist Sunderland.


20 Nov 2016 05:04:22
I don't know how all of a sudden Southampton became a good team. They were beaten by a modest hull city the other week and completely owned by Chelsea 2 weeks ago. We enjoyed 65% possession yesterday and they literally had no clue when we opened them up time and time again. Except that one CB, they were all over the places.
Stop making them look like a Barcelona. They would he ripped apart by City.


{Ed001's Note - don't be such a fool. Saints are a good side, a couple of blips does not make a team crap. Citeh have been battered a few times this season, as have Chelsea, it doesn't stop them being good sides. It is how a team gets on over a season that tells you how good they are and Saints are top half, and that makes them good.}

20 Nov 2016 06:51:41
Yesterday they were very poor Ed01. They did nothing all match.


{Ed001's Note - because they were being dominated. You are missing the point, as usual. This wasn't them being bad, it was us being good, that is why he is loath to make changes.}

20 Nov 2016 12:38:12
Did harry just say they'd be ripped apart by city after they drew at the Ethiad a few weeks ago, amazing.


20 Nov 2016 13:14:29
I guess the Saints getting a very good point at the Emptyhad, is now considered a battering from City. Complete nonsense being posted here again by the usual suspect. I suggest you watch the game again as City were VERY fortunate to get a point in that game as the Saints were outstanding. Saints didn't get a kick in the game because we were on top of them from the first to the final whistle, creating enuff chances at least four, to win. Hence, weDID break them down. We fluffed our lines and that can happen. The moaners just can't let go, can they?


20 Nov 2016 14:01:45
Hamilton is on another level.
Mate I am disappointed because we couldn't finish our chances. What do you expect me to do? Praise Southampton because we couldn't score from 3 yards?
It's frustration because the team has set a standard which is on par with City and Chelsea. 3 teams who will compete for the title this season. Every points dropped count.


20 Nov 2016 14:30:57
Please Harry be positive about the point we earnt, my word mate at time's your painful. Nobodys making them out to be a Barca, we was indeed better but it doesn't make them a rubbish team does it? they're a really good team who can upset top teams as they have done this season already. You need to understand we will drop points, shocking points from time to time as we did against Burnley, but have we had a shocker like that since? no we havnt - We're joint top and your moaning about us not beating a good team who really needed a win? you need to come to terms with football mate because this is how it is. Still top, today we MAY end up a point behind top, to me we've done incredibly well. Stop moaning about it and think about Sunderland, Yesterdays game is history now.


21 Nov 2016 00:43:14
Deflect much, Harry? You're disappointed. Take a number and join the queue, genius. We all know you are never happy even when we win as you always have something ridiculous to say or something to moan about. We are a point off the top spot yet you talk about other teams. All you do is moan and post rubbish on here and you have learnt nothing even after the Ed's and other posters continue to hammer you. You act as if you're the only fan who cares about our club and its performances and then post your opinions and project them as fact. Get off your high horse and quit your bellyaching because you don't care about LFC any more than the next poster on here.


19 Nov 2016 18:25:24
Impressed by Van Dijk today. He should have been booked for that shirt pull on Firmino, but he was clearly their MOM today. I'd read that he was a slow lump over here, but I saw quick reactions and agility. And an ability to make a clean sliding tackle. If Klopp decides to replace Lovren in the summer (which is not actually a necessity), I'd say Van Dijk would be a good option. Wouldn't mind teams fearing LFC's "Twin Towers" at the back.

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19 Nov 2016 19:02:41
Pls, no more Saints players they aren't the only players on earth that can improve us. In fact, there are more than capable CB's elsewhere, those that are even better than Van Dyke.


19 Nov 2016 19:44:45
Yeah, it's hilarious. We had 4 players from Southampton playing in our squad today. But I agree, there are other, and better, players out there.


19 Nov 2016 20:17:01
I don't care what club there from if they better than what we got and we need to trust in Klopp . Van dijk has got everything in his game . Pace good in there air. Good on the ball . I don't get why people get so mad from buying from saints .


19 Nov 2016 20:53:22
Reis, So you have no problem from a PR stand point, with us always buying their players? I could tell you how illogical your thinking is but it will take too much time. As for Van Dyke, he may have had a good game and indeed has all the tools necessary to be a great CB. However, he has concentration issues as he tends to switch off often, something he did as he allowed Firmino to get behind him and then pulli him back. Had Clattenburg caught that, it would have been a straight red and then they would have gotten hammered. Either way, he's not fit to lace Matip's boots.


19 Nov 2016 21:26:21
The game needed some creativity, and that is why I'm unimpressed with Klopp waiting until the 75th minute to make a change. The game was crying for more incisive movements, and the fact that the front 3 was dropping ever do deep tells you we needed to change something. Sturridge and Origi should have come in earlier for Coutinho and Mane. Actually, I'd preferred Ejaria for Gini to be honest. Yes, it could have been worse, but it's also a missed opportunity to stretch our lead at the top.


19 Nov 2016 22:03:49
He would be priced out for a move already. I guess UTD are watching him already and might be Chelsea and City too ( all looking for defenders )


19 Nov 2016 22:28:20
Noski, what is with you and your Ejaria obsession? The guy has only played two games yet you now think he's better than Wiji. Baffling, really.


19 Nov 2016 22:50:33
Is Liverpool auffering from a PR perspective for buying so many Soton players?

Van Dijk was awesome today.


{Ed002's Note - Or maybe the lack of a plan B? Top of the table, it isn't too bad.}

20 Nov 2016 05:07:33
Hamilton

Not sure what are you trying to say here. It's not about who is better or worse. When you see someone having an off day on the pitch, You bring another player from the bench.
It's as simple as that.


{Ed001's Note - not always.}

20 Nov 2016 10:17:38
He is like a young Skrtel. He is good in the air as long as he is unchallenged or has the run on the guy he is challenging, and looks great on match of the day because his terrible positioning forces him into lots of last ditch tackles.

His reading of the game and decision making is dreadful. He was fortunate not to be sent off and even more fortunate that our front 3 had an off day. Even though they did 45,000 miles combined over the international break, they still cut through Southampton easily. Sadly they just didn't have their shooting boots on.

Definite no on Van Dijk though. I'm sick of highlight reel defenders. I want another Matip! Someone who is so good they can actually look like the game is easy to them.


20 Nov 2016 13:18:09
Spot on, MK. He looks good in highlight reels but I wouldn't touch Van Dyke with a ten foot pole. As I said, we have Matip who is not on the same planet with Van Dyke and Skrtel. Also, thank you Ed. It is not as simple as just changing systems. Our system worked as chances were being created and we were playing well so why change it.


20 Nov 2016 14:04:24
Adam

Tah is a tank. A monster of a defender. Highly impressive.
Sule is another fine defender who should have no problems for regular game time with us.


20 Nov 2016 15:03:37
Not really seen enough of Tah or Sule to judge.

Still think we should go after Wimmer. If he is too pricey, I'd seriously consider Ben Gibson of Middlesborough.


21 Nov 2016 00:58:14
Spot on, MK. I watched Gibson vs Chelsea and trust me, I see why Chelsea are in for him. The boy has everything but most of all, his level of concentration was top notch as he individually never switched of. Van Dyke is not in his league as he was excellent and even made and average defender in Callum Chambers look great. I said earlier, there are much better CB's in the PL than Van Dyke and with Matip, Fonte and Gibson, there are three of them right there. Can't say much about Tah because I haven't seen enuff of him but I watched Sule at the Olympics this summer and he was also outstanding especially vs Brazil's Gabriel Jesus and Neymar.


21 Nov 2016 15:46:53
Hamilton, I don't have any Ejaria obsession, and there's no way I can prove he would have been better in that game. But in hindsight, you can see Gini was one of the players that didn't cut it on Saturday. I don't have anything against Gini, but one of the main things that makes our midfield work is the creativity of Lallana opening up channels for the front 3. That was sorely lacking on Saturday in my opinion, and that is why I thought Ejaria might have been an option. I'm not comparing the two players, but that kid has played very well most times he's git an opportunity. Ed002 keeps talking about a plan B, and we seem to be riding our top of the league or close to top of the league crest. You saw it in ManU vs. Arsenal on Sunday, that Oxlade cross to Giroud's head. Let's not get carried away, even though we're doing great at the moment. When it's not working, don't wait until 76th minute to make a change, especially when the opposition is not threatening at all.
I don't claim to know much, but we created the least number of chances in that game compared to the 4 before it. That should tell you something.


21 Nov 2016 18:53:26
You`ve been impresed most times Ejaria has placed. How many times would that be? Tweice because he`s only played two games? You make too many general statements on this topic to be taken seriously. now regarding a plan A, B, or C, why would we change what was actually working? We had them pinned in, they could create one chance to write home about and we may not have been at our best BUT we created more chances than the Utd game and bar poor finishing, we win the game so again, what needed to be changed? You have to think of keeping the team shape and balance intact when you make a change and playing in crosses is not the way we play. Also by doing that, you are playing into the Saints hands as our strikers will never get to the crosses before Van Dyke and Fonte do. This is the part you seem not to understand. It seems you just wanna moan with no idea of what you are actually moaning about. Bottom line is, Saints parked the bus, we unlike the Utd game, created 4 clear chances and in a tight game, that should be enough to win and we didn`t convert them. Simple as that. It has nothing to do with system changes, personel, or nothing at all because most importantly, chances are being created. That is what should be understood here globally. It took me a while to understand as well until I read other information.


22 Nov 2016 08:55:17
So for you playing for U23 don't count? So the only time you can count or analyze a player's potential to effect change is when he plays for the first team? I quite disagree. I think we did okay, but we could have easily won that match of we had the right personnel.


19 Nov 2016 17:20:14
Match review ed?

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{Ed001's Note - not much chance of that, I have to subscribe to stream them here and the internet has been so slow I couldn't watch anything. I can barely edit as it pages take ages to load up.}

19 Nov 2016 18:07:47
Ed01,
Any chance of watching a reply mate?


{Ed001's Note - not unless the internet improves. Which is unlikely here. It has got gradually worse over the last few weeks.}

19 Nov 2016 18:13:51
I think the stats tell the story of that game. We had 65% possession. We had 15 shots on goal (though only 2 on target - thus we did not score) . Southampton managed to muster a measily 3 shots (0 on target) . We also had 8 corners (they had 1).

One team was trying not to lose, the other trying to win, and that is reflected in both the stats and the play that unfolded today. We just needed a goal and we missed a couple of really big chances. Mane had 2 very good chances in the first half. Firmino, Coutinho and Emre Can all had very good chances in the second half - all fluffed their lines.

In terms of good and bad players I think most of our team did well. Our centre-backs did very well. Goalkeeper had nothing to do (distribution was decent though) . I thought Wijnaldum was very bright for 60 odd minutes before fading. Henderson was good though playing very deep - not sure I like him in that role. Firmino was full of energy and running (as is becoming the norm), Coutinho involved a lot, Mane likewise.

I thought Milner was quite poor today, lacked effectiveness on the wing (largely due to the right foot-left wing conundrum) . Nevertheless he can play better. Emre Can was also sloppy with his passing and possession today, particularly in the second half (which is why, I am assuming, he was subbed) . Apart from that the team played well, certainly well enough to win.

Southampton, against the top teams, will lose and lose frequently if they set-up with such an overwhelmingly negative mindset. Usually a point away at Southampton is nothing terrible - we really dropped 2 points today though: we were the better team and we should have won.


19 Nov 2016 18:34:31
I don't disagree that we should have found a way to win that game today but I'm sure that I heard Southampton have only lost 1 home game in 2016 and have won 10 of their last 13. Not the result we wanted but it happens and we will move on.


19 Nov 2016 18:38:56
I think an issue is also Klopp's use of his plan B. Any decent coach knows exactly what is wrong and what is not working at half time. So he tries to either correct his Plan A at half time or move on to his Plan B around the 60th minute of the game. If we are to assume that Klopp's Plan B is to use Sturridge or Origi or both, he needs to move to that Plan B sooner than the 80th or 90th minute. We've seen this type of result so many times already where teams park the bus and watch LFC dominate possession, control of the game and spray shots everywhere except at the target. I'm not sure Plan B would change a result, but what do you lose if Plan A is not working, and you know it? Move to it sooner. Both Sturridge and Origi have proven they have goals in their legs, from the past.


{Ed001's Note - but, if your team is dominating and having shots, then that means plan A is working. Makes no sense to change it.}

19 Nov 2016 19:09:32
It has nothing to do with plan A, B or C so let's just stop with all that. Plan A worked and created enough chances to win the game by at least two goals. Our front three did not have their best game vs a Puel team who if you know his history from his Lille days, you would know his team's are very well organized and are tough nuts to crack. We created enuff to win but our front three had an off day and that can happen at times. I know many will talk about this being like Burnley but that is a false equivalence. Vs Burnley, we made poor decisions in the final third and created next to nothing. Here, we created four good chances in a tight game but our normally reliable strikers fluffed their lines. We move on!


{Ed025's Note - good post that hamilton..

19 Nov 2016 19:29:10
I'm happy with performance. As far as draws go there was a lot to take from the game, especially after internationals.


19 Nov 2016 18:51:01
But ed anyone could see we needed to change something. It was getting easy for them. Substitutions were too late especially Origi.


{Ed001's Note - hmmm if you say so, I just think people are whining over nothing. We created chances and failed to take them, it happens, there are days like that. Klopp has done fine so far, I don't see there is a reason for criticism today.}

19 Nov 2016 19:02:45
Dominating means we had the ball and we tried our best to break the wall. We were missing sitters after sitters Ed01. All we needed was a natural striker who knows how to put the ball in the net and we had 2 on the bench.
Southampton hardly came to us which meant we could afford to drop a CM for a striker and go with two holding.

I don't think it was anything with plans. We should have bought Sturridge as early as the 60th min for any of the CM. Sturridge wouldn't have missed those sitters.

I just get a feeling Klopp would eventually put sturridge into the mix a lot more as he could finish any kind of chances.


{Ed001's Note - and a natural striker does not help in the build up, so we might not have created the chances for him to put away. Sturridge has been awful this season, I love him but, right now, he doesn't deserve to make the bench, let alone be put on early.}

19 Nov 2016 19:32:33
Thanks, Ed.


{Ed025's Note - credit where its due mate..

19 Nov 2016 19:35:52
Well, your premise is correct, Ed001. We clearly dominated in every measurable area during the game. However, if we are to assume that the goal of plan A is to score more goals than the opposition and they're not coming, then shouldn't Plan B be looked at? I see it almost every game with the teams that are midtable and below. They place 11 players behind the ball and just defend. And you see LFC's 8 players (Karius, Matip and Lovren staying behind) butting heads against the opposing 11 with no breakthrough. When the interchanging of positions, the interplay and the quick one-two trickery of the starting front trio is not giving you goals, then the more direct play of Origi and the moments of individual brilliance from Sturridge, have to be tried out. We saw today that Southampton were not set up to win the game. Austin was alone upfront all game long and Boufal had some runs up on the left. Seeing this, I would have eased up on the pressing a little bit and brought in Sturridge and Origi, to shake things up a bit and try another approach. But I'm not Klopp - and very happy he's Klopp and I'm not. ;-)


{Ed001's Note - we are top scorers, I think Klopp is very justified in ignoring you.}

19 Nov 2016 19:57:32
Nah! Not whining ed1. infact we played great footy against a well organise side. Just thought origi substitution was very late. We had lots of corners and some crosses which we were very poor in the middle. He would've mad huge difference 👍✌.


{Ed001's Note - no, you think he would have, there is no way of knowing if those crosses and corners would have come if Origi was on the pitch.}

19 Nov 2016 20:20:20
Hmmm seems ed1 you didn't watch the game. If you see the game you'll get my point👍.


{Ed001's Note - don't talk soft, the point is still the same, if you change the team then the same chances are not going to come. If Origi was on, someone would have to come off, their contribution has gone, so the game changes. Also Origi makes different runs and movements and gets involved differently, so the game changes because of that too. It affects the other ten as well, so their game changes to accomodate them. I don't need to watch any match to know those simple things.}

19 Nov 2016 20:46:55
Ed1 sry for bugging mate. Coutinho was completely non existent today . changing him would've make no difference at all interms of crosses creating etc. Little magician was missing today big time. Maybe he needed a rest tho.


{Ed001's Note - of course it would have changed things, he played through balls according to the stats, he will also have drawn players to him to cover him. It is nonsense you are speaking.}

19 Nov 2016 21:02:11
Kopitef, let it go because I would be embarrassed if I was being owned the way your being owned by Ed01 right now. It seems you're just moaning for the sake of it. We lead the PL in goals scored, chances created, shots on target and possession so you have nothing to teach us, the Ed's or Klopp about attacking football. Also, On one hand you say we should have changed the system or eased the press (something that was actually working as chances were being created) while on the other, admitting that we played really well but were unlucky. Which is it? You also say Ed maybe didn't watch the game just because he disagrees with you. Pls, stop now because you're getting owned, big time.


19 Nov 2016 21:21:39
I'm not teaching anyone . its just my opinion. What has to do with top the table? every game is different. Moaning? 😂😂 maybe you need to see who is moaning 😂😂😂.


19 Nov 2016 21:27:47
What press your talking when they were just happy to give us possession and just sit back wait for the final whistle.


19 Nov 2016 22:01:04
I like Sturridge, but if he'd come on early, we might have lost a bit of momentum, because he won't press like Firmino, he doesn't have the same movement, he isn't as involved in the buildup play etc. Maybe his introduction would've been a bit of respite for Southampton.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm somewhat pleased with the result. That the team can play with so much intensity after the international break is impressive.


19 Nov 2016 22:08:50
Ed01,
I would sub either Can or Wiji for sturridge as both had very less impact on the game and chances created.

Coutinho dropped into the middle and there was no need for 2 CM apart from him and Hendo.

I would take a chance bringing Danny, dropping Phil alongside Can and Hendo.

I am 110% the outcome would have been different.


19 Nov 2016 22:30:18
Kop, your opinion is your opinion but is devoid of logo pic and facts, as Ed and I have told you but if you still wanna go down that rabbit hole, be my guest.


19 Nov 2016 22:56:04
There are always answers that solve the worlds problems after the fact. But on this occassion, we created more than enough to win and win it the way Klopp sent us out to play.


19 Nov 2016 22:08:50
Ed01,
I would sub either Can or Wiji for sturridge as both had very less impact on the game and chances created.

Coutinho dropped into the middle and there was no need for 2 CM apart from him and Hendo.

I would take a chance bringing Danny, dropping Phil alongside Can and Hendo.

I am 110% the outcome would have been different.


{Ed001's Note - yes, without Firmino's workrate and movement up top, we might have released pressure on their backline, allowing Saints more freedom on the ball and letting them get back at us. This is just ridiculous. The decisions were made for a reason, for starters, how do you know Sturridge's fitness was capable of coping with a longer run out?}

20 Nov 2016 08:21:52
I said I would drop a CM for sturridge. I have no complains over Firmino starting, But Sturridge should have come a lot earlier.
By your take mate what's the point in having subs if the first teamers are never going to be subbed at all.
Nothing to do with tactics, Saints offered nothing and we were missing sitters after sisters.


{Ed001's Note - you would drop a CM which would change the system which was working well. By my take? I am merely pointing out that you are talking crap when you say something WOULD have made a positive difference, rather than MIGHT. You are making assumptions with no basis in fact, just pure hope. Sturridge up front weakens us right now, much as I love him as a player and would hate us to lose him, he is not anywhere near his best.

I have never once said anything about subs not changing it, so no idea what you are on about. Quite the opposite, I am pointing out that the changes are far more than your limited whines about yesterday. How about, for once, you take some time to look at the whole thing, instead of just one limited piece of evidence and you might actually learn something.

You would do well to stop talking lies about it being nothing to do with tactics, you just make yourself look stupid when you dismiss truths with stupid assertions with no basis in reality. Saints sat back BECAUSE of the tactics Klopp utilises. So your utter nonsense about it being nothing to do with tactics just shows you lack insight into football. You need to take some coaching courses and actually learn more than just which players are great on FIFA or FM or wherever you discover your latest crush. It is a team game, one change changes the whole team dynamic and you have to weigh all that up when you make a change, not just say we are putting in crosses so let's throw a striker up top. That is the kind of thing morons like Harry Redknapp do and then wonder why their lack of tactical acumen fails so miserably in Europe and why English managers are a joke.}

20 Nov 2016 14:47:04
Lol Ed01, That's more than what Muscatred post on the other page section. With my limited knowledge mate I would have taken a chance with Sturridge as we were firmly in control of the match. It's all If and But excatly Klopp took time to bring one in. An assumption which did not succeed.
Sturridge worked really hard in those limited 12mts and set up one really good chance. He want being selfish at all and ran a lot yesterday.

Y Sturridge, because he has that magic to score from absolutely nothing. The goal against Sevilla in the EL final. His three attempts against Watford and two goals against Spurs.

I am no manager and I can't take a call. But I would have brought him purely because all we were missing was a fine finisher.


20 Nov 2016 19:02:07
From what I saw, we were easily the better team. On another day, would have scored a lot. But Saints defended really well too.
A thing I thought I should point out was the substitution. If we want to make one to find a winner, I'd give him more than the last 5 minutes. Very odd to sub Mane on the 90.


21 Nov 2016 01:02:54
So safe to say that Harry learnt next to nothing from what Ed posted.


19 Nov 2016 16:57:36
Liverpool have been flat today and Klopp should have made the substitutions earlier. City top now.

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19 Nov 2016 19:11:50
No, they are not. We are top based on good and/ or on goals scored. We were a bit flat in the first half I agree. But we were much better in the second but our normally deadly strikers had an off day. I also agree that Klopp should have made the changes earlier.


19 Nov 2016 19:15:39
We are still top on goals scored. If Chelsea win we won't be top but as of now we are still top.


19 Nov 2016 22:12:27
Wrong! We are still top. Equal on points, equal on goal difference, Liverpool ahead on goals scored. Only Chelsea could overtake us tomorrow, but I'm not bothered, as we're very much in the mix.


19 Nov 2016 22:13:16
Sturridge should have started or put on a lot earlier. Poor timing of subs.
Positive however is a clean sheet. Matip also fantastic.


21 Nov 2016 01:10:13
Studge has not earned the right to start as he's not in the same league as Couts, Firmino or Mane so it's the bench for him until further notice. The Studge you want to doesn't exist and doesn't fit the way we play so he deserves nothing as Klopp owes him nothing. We didn't need to change anything earlier as we were dominating them and creating openings and enough chances so why should we bring on Studge on when he wasn't needed because we were always on the front foot?


19 Nov 2016 16:56:35
We played well and we deserved to win. Had 2 or 3 really big chances that we should of scored. Southampton were woeful - to sit deep, defend and hope for some sort of a counter at home is, for a club with european aspirations, quite pathetic. 2 points dropped but positives were a good defence and an ability to create quality chances even against a team intent on getting almost every player behind the ball. We weren't at our sparkling best but we were hardly terrible either - felt like one of those games were we'd never score. Onwards and upwards though .

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19 Nov 2016 19:09:27
We need to be better at breaking teams down when sit deep. Coutinio and Lallana are both big players in those situations. Oh well. Other results were not too bad for our top 4 ambitions.


19 Nov 2016 19:12:51
Fully agree with you, Seano. At least it wasn't like the Burnley performance which was like watching paint dry.


19 Nov 2016 19:44:27
Agreed Hamilton - thought we actually played well today and created some good, clear chances. Was just a shame we didn't seem to have our shooting boots on. Any comparisons between today's game and the Burnley one are very wide of the mark.


19 Nov 2016 19:47:13
@Beddoerocks - we broke them down a number of times and had 3 to 4 chances were players were in on goal. We simply didn't finish the good chances we created - I don't see any issues with us breaking down defensive teams (at least not from this game) : it was simply a case of not finishing what we created. These games happen - we'll play worse than that and win games this season, it is simply one of those things that sometimes happens.


19 Nov 2016 22:28:51
Who cares if chelski go top tomorrow? It's mid November!


19 Nov 2016 16:55:30
Oh well, you can't win em all,
clean sheet at least. 👍.

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19 Nov 2016 16:55:04
Shame we couldn't get that elusive goal today but Southampton are no mugs and will continue to pick up points off top teams this season. Not unhappy tonight, let's hope there are no trolls on tonight.

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19 Nov 2016 17:09:42
its like we lost are rhythm after the international break. we had great chances but fluffed them. i didn't like how can was playing up front while continho was put in midfield trying to rip people.


19 Nov 2016 17:21:11
This international break excuse is gettimh boring now.


19 Nov 2016 19:13:33
Spot on, Harry. The international break nonsense needs to stop.


19 Nov 2016 19:15:53
The international break clearly affected our performance, as can be easily deciphered from Coutinho's performance today.

I think the boring thing here is your inane replies Harry.


19 Nov 2016 19:35:58
AG, the international break affected all teams in general. Check out Utd, Arsenal, and even Barca. Teams like Spurs and Spurs were able to rise above it but others could not. We played well enough to win but our inability to finish off chances had nothing to do with the international week. We fluffed our lines and that happens at times. We move on.


19 Nov 2016 20:24:52
Exactly. It affects everybody and the games you mentioned were all very close games and one could argue that none of Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Barcelona played well.

We move on of course but clearly the international break had an effect on our performance today as 1. It broke our rhythm from before the break and 2. Players like Coutinho clearly suffering from the effects.

Even then we had some good chances but unfortunately we couldn't take them. Thankfully there are no more of these international breaks for another 4 months or so!


19 Nov 2016 21:05:12
Spot on, AG.


19 Nov 2016 22:08:22
The international break is a valid excuse. That it affects all teams doesn't mean it affects them "equally" and therefore everything should equate back to the way it was before the international break.
How many teams have S. Americans in them, who had to play during the week? Do all players recover equally after travelling? How many players from other clubs weren't called up during the international break and stayed behind to work with the coaching staff? How many players left their countries early because they didn't play the friendlies and thus returned to their clubs early? There are lots of other valid questions.
There's no way you can say the international break has no effect.


19 Nov 2016 22:26:09
Wasn't football a team game and Liverpool not relying on one player. Contradicts when people say Coutinho had an off day and then they say we are a team game.
Kindly stick to one argument.

We have enough strength in depth to beat Southampton. If not accept Coutinho is extreamly important.


19 Nov 2016 14:23:10
Thank you ed01 for the preview, you are the best.

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{Ed001's Note - awww thanks mate.}

19 Nov 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Liverpool match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Liverpool Live Chat page

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19 Nov 2016 13:35:27
5live says Coutinho starts.

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19 Nov 2016 07:53:43
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Previews

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19 Nov 2016 08:05:52
Brilliant work Ed01.


{Ed001's Note - cheers Harry, I hope it was what you were looking for?}

19 Nov 2016 08:13:46
Ed1, absolute class to read first thing in the morning of a footy day. Cheers mate. Brilliant as always.


{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

19 Nov 2016 07:57:35
Wow!


19 Nov 2016 08:32:51
That's exactly what I was looking for. Spurs vs West ham would be a very tricky fixture.


19 Nov 2016 10:07:30
True Harry, i'm hoping West Ham get a win, but can see a draw coming.


19 Nov 2016 12:01:40
Good read ed001 thanks
Up the pool.


{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

19 Nov 2016 13:25:25
What, no transfer info or score predictions? You are slacking 001 ;)


{Ed001's Note - I never give score predictions, they are bad luck!}

19 Nov 2016 14:40:04
wow that was a good read, just a paragraph a club, short, simple and easy to read.

u know u have to do this every week now don't you ed001? i will be looking towards this every game ed001 ;) .

appreciate it ed001.


{Ed001's Note - I did think I was making a rod for my own back there!}

19 Nov 2016 14:50:46
I understand your a busy man ed1 but if we could get this weekly I'd be delighted lol no pressure l, I don't expect it week in week out but I ignored my newspaper this morning due to your post, fantastic mate.


{Ed001's Note - I am glad you enjoyed it mate, I will try and get one done for each set of Prem games when I can.}

19 Nov 2016 14:59:07
Thanks ed1 have a good day mate!


19 Nov 2016 14:59:07
Thanks ed1 have a good day mate!


{Ed001's Note - you are very welcome mate, you too.}

18 Nov 2016 23:34:18
Hi Ed001,

Was wondering whether you had time to do a match preview? Always a great read and much appreciated.

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - I did the Liverpool only one yesterday or Thursday and it was put on either the Others page or the Teams page. I will have the full Prem preview one done this morning.}

19 Nov 2016 08:30:09
Yes half way down the others page zpecialone.


 
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