Liverpool Banter Archive October 19 2010
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19 Oct 2010 23:30:58
Was watching the gooners on tv3 and mark lawrenson was on he told a joke, he said that liverpool are changing the name on the trophy room 2 the room ha ha he he what a gobshyte for saying such a thing there is a alot of former players who always have something to say about our club , does anyone else notice this and why are they doing this?the always saying that in our day this and there day that, i bet when the were playing for liverpool former players didn't say bad things about the club to the press, the say that modern players are just in for they cash but still the don't mind selling their story to the press, just grumpy old men:)
19 Oct 2010 23:10:42
We are playing Napoli next and will beat them by 6 goals, Will draw at blackburn home. Then lose to bolton. Then beat Napoli by another 6 goals and get battered by Chelsea 4 goals.
Come 10th Nov 2010 we will have a new manager
19 Oct 2010 23:02:09
We need to find a manager that aquilani would respect and want to play for. we need someone that Gerrard, cole and torres will love playing for and we need him before jan window.
A new manager will get a couple of wins out of the team, just because its a man coming in and everyone wants to impress.
19 Oct 2010 22:52:58
You lot need to look at that pile of sh*t who pretends to be a top striker/ ladyboy. Blame the yanks, fine, blame the fat spanish waiter, fine, but Uncle Roy? Do me a favour, have look at the diving cheating Spaniard up front. How he can look Gerrard in the eye after a game is beyond me. One pulls his tripe out, the other tosses it off most times.
MANC RED
19 Oct 2010 22:48:25
We should have bought Diego Perez in the summer, he had a great world cup. Looked like a rock in midfield.
alot better than polusen
19 Oct 2010 22:24:02
Roy has carried on the tradition that Rafa started by using players out of position Gerard, Jova, Lucas, Babel, Cole, Meireles all being played out of position having little or no impact on games.
19 Oct 2010 21:52:39
This will give is WAAY more attacking options
And Reina WAAAY more practice picking the ball out his own net!
19 Oct 2010 21:43:27
GUYS our defence is SH'ite lets face it.
I say we take a risk against napoli and try a tottally different formation i say we go - kelly carra konchesky
lucas
meireles gerrard
Johnson Joe cole Babel/ jova
Nando n'gog
This will give is WAAY more attacking options
19 Oct 2010 21:31:53
Dont you think we're getting ahead of oursevles abit talking about new mangers an wishlist for january, i think we should be talking about a very tricky away game we've got coming up in naples on thursday
who do you reckon deserves to start out there out of that pile of passionless s*eep we've got mate ?
19 Oct 2010 21:28:54
I think a major problem with getting in a coach from abroad can be that, the epl is like no other league in the world, and can make great players look very average ( veron, robinho, forlan etc) foreign managers tend to buy from there home countries.
i think any foreign player coming in to the prem can not and shud not be judged for at least 12 months. (just look at malouda). i think the board at liverpool really thought they had the write man in hodgson and i think he tried to play it safe with his transfers. after all the carp rafa brought.
19 Oct 2010 21:28:36
19 Oct 2010 21:13:02
So what did stevie, carra and torres fall out over?
Apparantly it was something to do with conditioner!
19 Oct 2010 21:27:43
Alright Ed! Great call on O'Driscoll(spelling), good, young intelligent coach/ manager who deserves a chance to coach/ manage at higher level just cos he aint got a fancy foreign name don't mean he aint any good, some of the spoilt brats at our club need bringin down a peg or two, as for this supposed meeting on monday between Purslow, Kenny & the Big 4 c*ckheads at our club they need reminding that they play for LFC & if they don't like it then piss off, we aint got time to try & massage bruised ego's, pull your socks up lads & buckle down cos the real fight has already started, we are all in this together, the board have done their bit its about time the players done theirs.
96 reasons why we shud never give up
YNWA
19 Oct 2010 21:26:37
Ed, do you really think Roy is going to be gone in the next week or so?
I was never happy with his appointment but tried to back him. I think if I could see any small sign of improvement I would continue to back him but it seems we just don't want to play football anymore. The passing, both speed and accuracy, this season has been nothing short of terrible, I also blame Sammy L for this and not sure what he offers anymore. I don't know what Roy is seeing in training but it aint happening on the pitch. When you look back at all the games, bar the second half against arsenal and about 15 minutes against united we have been appalling. We have no wingers but continue with the 4411, if we had wingers and it wasnt working I'm happy to persist but we have sqaure pegs in round holes so lets just try a different formation. Lets try anything, kids included to try and get some pace back into the way we play. The defence is looking extremely suspect, I know there has been criticism of Carra but I'd still have him at the heart of the defence, Kelly at RB he looks a great prospect. We seem to keep changing the team throughout, is gerrard playing off torres or mereiles playing off torres make up your mind and stick to it for a few games.
The players have to take some responsibility but they look lost at the minute and its Roy's job to ensure that they at least know what they are trying to do.
The only thing to cheer me up this week was the Rooney news!
This would be my team:
GK - Reina
RB - Kelly
LB - Konchesky (no hoper but we have no one else)
CB - Carra
CB - Skirtel
DM - Poulsen/ Lucas/ My Gran
CM - Gerrard
CM - Mereiles
AM - Cole
CF - Torres
CF - Jovanivic (he always was a striker before we decided to play him left wing!)
Cheers
Jon
{Editor's note - I think RH will be given to January}
19 Oct 2010 21:25:50
Not sure what the post about Sterling is about, but if you want to see him he's on youtube. Good dribbler but too lightweight in my opinion for the premiership. Needs to develop more pace too. Amoo is the way forward. . .pace, power and an eye for a finish.
Pieboy1812
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Raheem Sterling
DOB 08.12.1994
Correct me if im wrong but do premier league rules state players have to be 16 ?
LFC1
19 Oct 2010 21:24:15
I can't believe so many people on here slating Ngog. He is played on his own as striker and everyone moans saying hes s* t, but yet when its torres doing nothing its coz he gets no service? I personally think Ngog is gonna be quality in a few years
Rumours
Who I would like to come in:
Taiwo
Turan
Pavlyuchenko
Players that will come in if Roy is in charge:
Chris Brunt
Carlton Cole
Paulo Wanchope
Stuart Ripley
Kevin Gallagher
RED BOB
19 Oct 2010 21:20:36
Liverpool are in rebuilding process.This means, financial situation of the club is still in process then when the paperwork is complete then Chairman, Director, board will be reviewed. The the coach/ team manager will be assessed before the players situation will be looked at. I believe Purslow will stay, Broughton on wants to continue at Liverpool as he has enjoyed the fame that comes with the job. Hodgson I feel will be moved on and the players, expect a clear out . Dalglish is very pally with certain NESV members and has impressed them with " what he'd do" if in charge of the team, also the kop chants his name. My money is on Dalglish to takeover within a couple of weeks and a new manager to come this summer (unless Dalglish gets a champions league spot). Torres looks set to leave this summer if there is no champions league plus theres a clear out and a massive transfer budget
19 Oct 2010 21:15:35
"Re: alexis sanchez
an how much would we be paying for him? {ed's note - Udinese and United were quoted £25m in the summer, though that price might have dipped with 6 months less on his contract and no firm interest at the price.}"
I think you will find he has a contract through June 2014. Sharkey.
19 Oct 2010 21:14:19
I have a question for ya ed. .i agree with a lot of your opinions you talk a lot of sense. But what do you have against o'neil? he done a fantastic job for wycombe, leicester, celtic and led villa to highest finish in years. For most jobs he has stayed the course. Out of the 5 clubs he has managed he has left 2 for fall outs with the chairmen. He has teams playing well. I think oneil would do a good job. I might be wrong as i also thought hodgson would do ok.
{Editor's Note: We would do as well to keep Hodgson - O'Neil would not be a step forward.}
19 Oct 2010 21:13:02
So what did stevie, carra and torres fall out over?
19 Oct 2010 21:12:31
Hi ed, theres a young german/ english lad called lewis holtby, i think hes the under 21 captain of germany and the nxt big thing, do think players like this would be the way forward, rather than mega bucks for finished article?
{Editor's Note: It helps if you can create the finished article yourselves. But it will always be hit and miss.}
19 Oct 2010 20:53:53
Man city have money to burn even if they get rooney they will snap are hand off for torres test them i say
ADAM JOHNSON. .MICAH RICHARDS. AND 50M
SWAP FOR TORRES
then go buy suarez and dzenko
19 Oct 2010 20:53:22
Ed
ed Sean O'Driscoll? that gave me a right good chuckle i must say. {ed's note - he has a better record than Shankly had before he took over. All these big name managers you all want have no knowledge of the kind of football played on these shores. Rafa and Houllier have shown how difficult it can be. If you are chuckling at O'Driscoll, then it is purely because of who he manages and not on his ability at all and to dismiss a manager purely because of that is not a clever thing to do.}
Ed i agree give the guy a chance, Donny Rovers play some very nice football and have established themselves in the Championship.
Perhaps we were all gutted when Shanks came from Grimsby? ?
LFC1
19 Oct 2010 20:14:49
Jose Segura could be the right man, he is already at the club, has achieved success in his short career and is only 49, so he'd be long term manager (with Carra coming in as assistant in a couple of years).
Oh, did I mention that he played an integral part in the development Iniesta, Fabregas, Arteta & Victor Valdes, to name a few.
YNWA.
eamonfire
19 Oct 2010 20:12:51
There is only 1 way Rooney could ever redeem himself. .and that would be to see out his ccontract and return on a lesser wage to Everton.
19 Oct 2010 20:11:50
Rooney hates Liverpool with a passion so no chance he's coming our way. We have more of a chance getting Messi
19 Oct 2010 20:10:57
Apparently breaking news in turkey about Rijkaard's quit and they are saying he's been offered the Liverpool job. Don't know how true this is as nothings been confirmed yet.
19 Oct 2010 20:08:59
Just been comparing Rafa and Hodgepodge see below:-
Rafa
Total Games all clubs 54.40% win rate
Woy
Total Games all clubs 40.34%
Source Wiki
Says it all really.
Come back Rafa. Save Our Souls.
19 Oct 2010 20:08:32
With all the talk about former, current and future managers aren't we all overlooking the obvious? Liverpool aren't playing well and the players seem to have lost all desire to give it all for the club.
How is it possible that Gerrard and Torres play on the tip of their toes and at the slightest hint of physical contact they are more than happy to pout and give up possession? Carragher makes errors on both sides of the pitch (and blames everyone else for it) and even Reina has had some blunders here and there. These are supposedly our best players! Even a bad manager (*coughBenitezcough*) can win regularly when the top players are willing to play hard.
So in January we need:
two wingers
a centre back
that ever elusive new striker
and some fighting spirit
we get rid of anyone who doesn't want to play hard for the club no matter who they are.
YNWA
Olivier
19 Oct 2010 20:07:21
Made up with the Spanish Waiters interview - surprise surprise - it's someone else's fault he bought s* te with the vast amounts of money he was given.
At least it guarantees one thing - he can sell his mansion in Caldy safe in the knowledge we won't be burdened with him again.
And if you ask me who could have replaced him - ANYBODY - the 10 year old kid in row 35 on the Kop couldn't have done any worse in the transfer market.
Yeah Hodgson's signings have been awesome! Guess this proves your point.
P.S. I diddnt hear Raffa slag Liverpool but have a view on what happened so again your chatting sh*ep
19 Oct 2010 20:01:58
{Editor's Note: Manager's along the lines of Shankley a few and far between.}
Bloody hell, even the ed's can't spell the great man's name right
{Editor's Note: That's a oops I guess.}
19 Oct 2010 19:59:03
Stephane Courbis - Adebayor's agent claims Liverpool may get the striker in January transfer.
Adebayor claims Liverpool would be his prefered destination should he move clubs and stay in England.
This all depends on money for both club and player but Adebayor could well be a Liverpool player come January
19 Oct 2010 19:58:50
Granted Ed they are but we need a disciplinarian (cant spell it lol) Hiddink would fit this bill but would only do it short term (as i said the other day . 2mins and gone)
I would love to give Pelligrini a chance, but not to sure of his managerial strictness,
I wish i had the answers to this problem.
as for now i keep racking my brains on who we should get to replace Roy.
LFC1
{Editor's Note: Hiddink is not going to happen. Slaven Bilic may fit the bill - and maybe could be available.}
Bollox, Bilic couldn't manage a curry. The only man who can do this massive job is Kenny Dalglish, he has unfinished buisness with us.
Sooty
{Editor's Note: From 19 years ago...}
19 Oct 2010 19:54:29
BREAKING NEWS: WAYNE ROONEY WILL NOT RULE OUT EVER PLAYING FOR LIVERPOOL OR MAN CITY.SSN
Even if this were true we couldn't afford him! Not without sellin torres and id rather hav torres! Even if we did lose torres and get rooney, we'd still be in the same position as we are now. . in desperate need of a striker. Im not gonna deny that the thought of gettin rooney and keeping torres is mouth watering but i'd say the likelihood of that happening is somewhere between a million years and never!
I read somewhere that there could be a loop hole in his contract that would allow him to leave the mancs for 5mil but his wages would cripple us
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Would they though? Rough figures. .Torres is going to cost Liverpool about £50m over 5 years fees and wages.
Rooney at £5m leaves £45m for wages. .that's £173k a week. .not far short of the £200k reported in the media that Man C will pay him.
Now, if Rooney is a flop, selling him after a couple of years for, say, £20m results in a £3m loss (£5m fee plus £18m wages). It wouldn't be the first time Liverpool have lost a bit of money on a flop!
As you said, a rooney-torres partnership is mouth watering. .As would the financial benefits of a successful partnership. .
{Editor's Note: Just forget the £5M loophole - and Rooney moving to LFC for that matter.}
19 Oct 2010 19:51:18
DANNY WILSON AND NATHAN ECCLESTONE GIVE LIVERPOOL RESERVES 2V1 HALF TIME LEAD AGAINST BLACKBURN
19 Oct 2010 19:51:16
We should try to sign shunsuke honda at least e'll have a good engine!
19 Oct 2010 19:43:56
Perhaps Mike Tyson would be a good choice . . . okay he mite no jack S*eep bout football but would put some fire in our bellies
LFC1
19 Oct 2010 19:43:34
Anfield quiet? It's called PTSD
19 Oct 2010 19:43:11
Roony will not be joining liverpool, he hates every thing about liverpool, he is everton through and through. the frank rijkaard rumour seems to be gathering pace. he built the foundations to the barca team that blew away madrid in his tenure. yes he had money. . . and look what he did with it. ineresting times at the moment, with rooney and torres both looking likely to move in the nxt transfer window, both around the 50 60m mark. i personally think roony will go madrid and torres to barca. but if city get both then they will be unstoppable.
19 Oct 2010 19:40:41
Dear Editor, ARE YOU MAD!? . Sean O'Driscoll your choice of Manager!? . Id rather my Nan manage us than someone who can't get a side out of the Championship! Are you Really a Liverpool fan?
{Editor's Note: That was a different Ed of course - but you have to say O'Driscoll side plays attacking football and he is young - time to create a dynasty.}
19 Oct 2010 19:40:06
{Editor's Note: You can get 200/ 1 on Alex Ferguson being the next manager. Worth a bet?}
This is what pisses me off about the bookies. Wanna know what the odds are on Elvis Presley landing in an alien spacecraft in the middle of Central Park? 5000 to 1. Five measly thousand to one?? If I was thick enough to make a bet that ELVIS PRESLEY would do that, I would want more than 5 grand for being right ffs. And if Fergie was to manage Liverpool. . .
19 Oct 2010 19:39:57
There is only one thing to say and it was said today:
If I see John the milkman in the Wirral, with this bottle, I'd say, 'It's milk, sure'.
Now! !
19 Oct 2010 19:38:18
Why are people writing stupid comments about rooney! he won't ever join our club. even thow i would like him here with torres up front. roy needs to be sacked NOW! ! !. . . get frank rikjaard with alan hansen as his number two. bring in ian rush into the set up. . we need wingers NOT STRIKERS ON THE WINGS! so try and get adam johnson, ashley young, mata, arda turan. buy kaka to play alongside gerrard and benzama to play alongside torres. and maybe mexes from roma for nothing as he is out of contract in the summer i think. . football aint a hard game to play. you just gotta know what your doing and roy hodgson DONT! from bristolian scouser YNWA.
19 Oct 2010 19:35:45
My mate just suggested a Torres/ Rooney straight swap. This is probably the only way Liverpool could afford Rooney (although it's a ridiculous rumour anyway in my opinions *rolls eyes*).
Also, I doubt it'd please either player.
Thoughts?
{Editor's Note: It is all just nonsense.}
19 Oct 2010 19:35:14
Ed, I read your comments on who you'd like to have as coach next & even though I like O'Driscol, he wouldn't have the respect of the players. Pelligrini has a good track record, but may find it hard settling in England. I would like us to get David Moyes or Joachim Lowe.
Gav the red
{Editor's Note: I doubt that Moyes would be an option. I also cannot see Low as much above a zero chance.}
19 Oct 2010 19:34:51
{Editor's Note: Manager's along the lines of Shankley a few and far between.}
Shanks would not survive today. for a start he wouldn't get enough time. baconface as well. The truth is all the old legends would be in the same boat nowadays. no patience from the board, no time to make an impression. Get instant results or pop off.
I don't want expansive football, I want to win first, then let's worry about playing nice. the question is, does the team have the character to win first?
19 Oct 2010 19:31:06
Granted Ed they are but we need a disciplinarian (cant spell it lol) Hiddink would fit this bill but would only do it short term (as i said the other day . 2mins and gone)
I would love to give Pelligrini a chance, but not to sure of his managerial strictness,
I wish i had the answers to this problem.
as for now i keep racking my brains on who we should get to replace Roy.
LFC1
{Editor's Note: Hiddink is not going to happen. Slaven Bilic may fit the bill - and maybe could be available.}
19 Oct 2010 19:30:14
Pieboy1812, you've got the right idea son, i would prefer someone like louis van gaal in as carra is groomed as he did this with mourinho an we all kno how that turned out also he prefers an attacking style of play aswel, bayern played inter off the park in the cl final but lost to a couple of smart counters by his former apprentice's side
Forget Carra, he's as thick as sh*te. He'll end up managing Tranmere. This is Henry Winter's hobby horse, let it drag its sorry ass to the knackers yard. BTW if you do not think Carra and Stevie G have too much say, imagine Woy put them on the transfer list. .who would stay and who would go? Answer: Woy would go. Who has ever been more undroppable than that fkn carthorse carra? Watching him change feet is like watching the QEII unmoor
19 Oct 2010 19:26:41
If Liverpool want world class players, first we need a world class manager
{Editor's Note: You can get 200/1 on Alex Ferguson being the next manager. Worth a bet?}
19 Oct 2010 19:24:39
Right
As i said after the game on Sunday.
Time for Calm . . . (did i not ED)
Ok i don't think (in fact know) Roy is not the man for the hotseat at Anfield, but come on some of our players need a F* * n big kick up the ass !.
I think the boardroom issues (not helped by Rafa) have turned the players off (and given them excuses to hide behind). . . we need someone who is capable of removing the "Bad apples" and progressing what we have till Jan.
I was all for Pellegrini . . . but after hours of thought am wavering . . . towards . . . i need to think for a little longer as i said we need a "shankly" type boss who will not allow egos to rule !
LFC1
{Editor's Note: Manager's along the lines of Shankley a few and far between.}
19 Oct 2010 19:23:17
Pieboy1812, you've got the right idea son, i would prefer someone like louis van gaal in as carra is groomed as he did this with mourinho an we all kno how that turned out also he prefers an attacking style of play aswel, bayern played inter off the park in the cl final but lost to a couple of smart counters by his former apprentice's side
19 Oct 2010 19:05:50
This is theturdz speaking
just seen the fergie press conference god he looks and sounds like a broken man think he will call it a day after this season he got no money o spend the glazers are in a worse situation than we were and il drink to that what goes around comes around.
im lovin this ha
19 Oct 2010 19:00:47
Whats with all the rafa hateing at the moment?
he dropped a few clangers, an made sum dodgy signings i agree an sometimes his tatics were suspect
lets not forget he made us no 1 ranked team in europe by takin us to sum of the hardest places on the continent an winning, nou camp, bernabeu, san siro etc
away from football as he was leaving he could have took 16m with him as his contract stated but took only a third
he donated money to various charitys run by fans
now im not calling for the immidiate re-instament of rafa by any stretch, jus that us football fans can be so fickle at times
i wish him every success at inter
id love to here ur views ed ?
{Editor's Note: He lost the plot midway through his tenure and he wasted very large sums of money.}
19 Oct 2010 18:48:26
"Ed I hear there is a Fifa loophole that could see Rooney leaving manure for £5m"
10 or 11
19 Oct 2010 18:48:13
Hi Ed
Just 2 questions
1) what are the chances of aquilani coming back?
2)what are the chances of rooney playing for liverpool ;)
just imagine rooney upfront with torres! with stevie g linking up with them as well!
Dan
{Editor's Note: (1) just about zero; (2) zero.}
19 Oct 2010 18:20:02
Just been watching the Joe Januszewski interview on the website and I must comment this guy is amazing supporter and I have faith that we are in the right hands going forward. Just hope we get Roony to hiss off the Manc's
19 Oct 2010 18:18:59
19 Oct 2010 18:03:24
According to the "Globe" NESV have started the search for a new manager.
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DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THESE NESV GUYS. THEY MEAN BUSINESS.
19 Oct 2010 18:17:56
World exclusive! Raintitrombone is not dead in fact he is now spouting his rubbish on the manc rumour site. also **e***** is flying the liverpool flag by winding up the mancs about shrek! well done mate
19 Oct 2010 18:17:30
Ed I hear there is a Fifa loophole that could see Rooney leaving manure for £5m, I know Fergi would not sell to us but can you imagine Rooney and torres together!
19 Oct 2010 18:17:12
Hodgson will leave Liverpool on friday morning! !
19 Oct 2010 18:15:22
Hey Ed why don't you create a fans page of www.football-rumours.co.uk on facebook. Im sure by doing that we will be able to know each other very well, and would also be able to attract more readers as well as posters. Im sure we can do that. Wat say?
Dan Roger.
19 Oct 2010 18:14:41
19 Oct 2010 18:07:28
Please note, posting bollix from SSN is not rumour, it`s bollix. Stop it, stop it at once.
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Well said mate!
Blair Mayne YNWA
19 Oct 2010 18:14:34
18 Oct 2010 19:21:40
I believe that Manuel Pellegrini does has passable English (may need some work though). I seem to remember Guillem Balague saying so on Revista da La Liga last season.
Another interesting choice as new manager would be the attack minded Atletico Madrid coach Quique Sαnchez Flores. Good attacking football and one for the ladies I believe.
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Revista said last season that Quique Sαnchez Flores does speak good English.
19 Oct 2010 18:11:59
Tought it would never happen but Matin O neill is tipped as the new Liverpool manager . . I thought he would hold out for the Man Utd job in the next few years but it makes sence as his is available and has EPL experience in abundance. .
TrueRed73
19 Oct 2010 18:10:10
BREAKING NEWS: WAYNE ROONEY WILL NOT RULE OUT EVER PLAYING FOR LIVERPOOL OR MAN CITY.SSN
Even if this were true we couldn't afford him! Not without sellin torres and id rather hav torres! Even if we did lose torres and get rooney, we'd still be in the same position as we are now. . in desperate need of a striker. Im not gonna deny that the thought of gettin rooney and keeping torres is mouth watering but i'd say the likelihood of that happening is somewhere between a million years and never!
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We can't afford £5 million? that's his price in June! And yes I would pay that for him, it would be stupidity not to!
{Editor's Note: Don't get carried away about that being his price in June. I am not going to sit and explain the ruling or how it works, but you need to go and look it up.}
19 Oct 2010 18:07:28
Please note, posting bollix from SSN is not rumour, it`s bollix. Stop it, stop it at once.
19 Oct 2010 18:02:31
SAF will sell rooney to liverpool but only if pepe reina is part of the deal. torres will not entertain the idea of staying in the prem as barca have already informed his agent they will make a bid in january for him. the deal could be something like reina plus 50m with the torres transfer to barca covering most of that fee
19 Oct 2010 18:01:34
Someone needs to tell the new owners that rooney would be the best signing they could ever hope to make. He and torres would be untouchable and this is the best chance they will EVER have of signing him. I don't mean to say i think its likely, but the possibility is so mouth watering its well worth making a really public push for him and seeing what happens. Maybe some banners publicly luring him to anfield might sway him to the cause. . .Duckula
19 Oct 2010 17:55:06
Ed. . I've been meaning to ask for a while now!. . .Do people really fancy this Honda bloke. .I mean. come. .on?!. .He's OK. .but don't people get that basic gut fealing about whether or not a player will be any good for us. .cos i for one don't think he'd help in the current situation we're in!. .Sadly i think he'd be one of those players who look good when things are already going well, rather than the type who'd dig deep and come up with ideas when things are going wrong! !. .
(Please correct me if I'm way off the mark Ed!)
SI
YNWA
[Editor's Note: General I agree with you. He is a good player - but nothing spectacular.}
19 Oct 2010 17:51:20
Cant you all see when paco ayesteran left liverpool that's when it started going down hill, of course with h&g coming in aswel
i am suggesting we should get him back in as assistant as he was the tactition who won us many games. benitez's tactics werent very good after paco went. .wonder why
19 Oct 2010 17:50:28
In response
{ed's note - I feel like I am getting RSI replying to this question! My choice would be Sean O'Driscoll of Doncaster Rovers, failing that Pellegrini, Laudrup or Di Matteo.}
Do you realy think O'Driscoll is good enough to make the step up? ? im not to sure, its going to be a massive task who for whoever takes over.
19 Oct 2010 17:49:00
My choice for manager would have to be Guus Hiddink I think he is a great manager with proper tactics and a massive pedigree! I think he would command the respect of star players which I don't think Roy Hodgeson does! He would also be able to attract better caliber of players! I also think that the club shoud let Fernando Torres leave for £35m at least and buy Karim Benzema £20m and Lisandro Lopez for £15m then a decent winger probably Ashley Young for between £15-20m. Seriously need to sure up the defence aswell I would bring in Gary Cahill for around £10m and Phillipe Mexes for around the same price. A defensive midfielder should also be purchaced Lassana Diarra for about £10.5m. A massive clearout of deadwood is needed aswell I think get rid of kyriakos, Aurelio, agger, skrtl, maxi, poulsen, Lucas, jovanovic, babel so I rekon to sort out this big mess
19 Oct 2010 17:47:18
Alan dzagoev sounds like a player who could be great for lfc. Young, clever, attacking and doesn't seem to be getting too much press over here, so perhaps cheaper
{Editor's Note: Dzagoev is well enough known here to have been a target for Chelsea for some time.}
19 Oct 2010 17:45:32
Ed. .I'm not rubbishing peoples opinions but to dissmiss Frank Rijkaards ability as a manager and prospect of managing us is ridiculous! I don't care what his record in Turkey is. . He managed Barca and and was VERY successful there playing beautiful football! . .He is also used to handeling quality players and knows what sort of football he wants. And whether or not Barca's chairman picked what players were bought, I'd be confident he'd buy the right players for us purely based on the fact that as a player and manager he's only really ever been around quality! . .Can you really picture him buying a Konchesky or a Lucas?!. .I cant. .And for all those saying Gus Hiddink. .Yeah he's a good coach. .But i can't really remember when he was last at a club for 5 years or more, and can't picture him doing that now. .
SIYNWA
19 Oct 2010 17:44:21
I am wondering why people want any short term manager appointed. hodgson has tried and its not worked, fair enough, thanks and goodluck in your next job. liverpool fc is a rebuilding process (tbh i feel 3 or 4 player would do for now). so why wait another moment, the new owners should get their own man and start their new era in winning fashion. still bring on napoli lol.
i think blackburn is roys last chance, if he even gets that long.
ed any thoughts on when you think the change will happen and who will be the new man incharge
always a red
{Editor's Note: No thoughts on when; critical is it being the right choice for the club - not some short0term solution.}
19 Oct 2010 17:28:24
Got to praise the ed again. .
Very patient, replying to almost all posts and queries. . Great work!
Breathtaking PHOENIX
Red for life!
Ps. Am looking out for different ways I could spread about this site. Its just amazing.
A feature the eds could include is identify themselves, and have a profile for themselves. It ll be amazing . {ed's note - I suppose we could all do some kind of profile, though it is hard to know what people would want to know about. Thank you for the compliments mate, it is a plus that there are a number of us now, I don't think any one of us could keep up on our own!}
19 Oct 2010 17:12:13
Please people stop talkin bout Elia, hes jus another babel, fast but the touch ov a rapist
David Amoo is young, talented, passionate an hungry get this boy startin against blackburn
pacheco should be startin aswel as shevely
19 Oct 2010 17:09:14
Strachan. . . . . . . . . .oh god we have hit rock bottom. .he's just another martin o neil midget with a chip on his shoulder against anybody taller than him. . . most people. . . geddit.
this is a rumour site not a wish list. . .
my bro is a cabbie and they're always first with the gen info. . .
nowt as yet. .
but wait
news in the offing
and woy is staying.
19 Oct 2010 17:01:43
Why do people keep saying sell Johnson, Hes an attacking full back and that's what we need, and people sayin to sell Johnson are looking to bring in midfielders . So whos goin to play RB?
19 Oct 2010 16:58:18
Whoever posted the following. . . . . . . . .19 Oct 2010 16:38:54
Work for the spl in youth development. . . . . . strachen walked out of job due to approach from purslow will be in media at weekend.
please drink sensibly. . .2 mancs in 1 week signing for us after god knows how many years non trading between clubs. . .
really try shandy in the afternoon not loopy juice. .
king kenny07
ps(can u post where you bought ur grog from. . ta)
19 Oct 2010 16:56:47
Just heard that Kevin Doyle and Matt Jarvis could be part of a double swoop on Wolves. Also, Honda of CSKA Moskow is likely to be approached and we may also be looking at the possibility of bringing Peter Crouch back. Personally, I would only take Doyle and Honda out of these as I think the other two are just average players. Bringing Crouch back would be a huge step backwards and I would rather see someone with a knack for scoring goals brought in eg. Forlan, Suarez or Tevez. However, I very much doubt that we would have that sort of money available.
In regards to Hodgson's future, I do feel as though it is time for a change. I haven't heard any confirmed reports of a sacking, although I do believe that a board meeting was held last night. Whether it was too discuss the manager's future, or new players, I don't know.
19 Oct 2010 16:56:05
Hodgsons odds in the betting industry have been slashed, and he is now favourite to be sacked next!
now lets have a laugh at who's the bookies top choices to be our next leader:
7/ 4 Martin O'Neill
5/ 2 Kenny Daglish
10/ 1 Frank Rijkaard
11/ 1 Didier Deschamps
12/ 1 Guus Hiddink
14/ 1 Jurgen Klinsmann
16/ 1 Martin Jol
20/ 1 Jose Mourinho
hmmm!
believable- someones in the know
unbelievable-media B.S!
{Editor's Note: Odds are very much driven by where the money is being placed. So if someone were to place a large bet on Didier Deschamps to be next manager his odds would shorten.}
19 Oct 2010 16:54:26
Ed. I totally agree with what you ve said as to how the club works regarding transfers.
What I am trying to say is , suppose the manager has good plans and justifies the reasons for the player acquisitions, the new owners would sanction it if its in the region of 25mil plus 20mil from player sales. It neednt be that this is going to be our expenditure in the jan window itself, but if the situation demands it, and if it solves our present issues and helps develop our long term challenge to the top places , I think they wouldn't hinder it.
{Editor's Note: I think the board will be open to proposals. Certainly just sitting on players who will never get a game makes no sense - so some can be sold.}
And as far as my info on the biddin is concerned. I am not saying I am 100% right, but Since I have kept a keen eye in the takeover issues right from april in this site and elsewhere. I have read in certain trustworthy locations that the bidders were asked to commit 25mil in the jan window for player sales. It was a prerequisite. And this was echoed by steve macmahon who mentioned somethin in similar lines.
Unfortunate that am not able to recollect where I read it though.
Breathtaking PHOENIX
Red for life!
19 Oct 2010 16:54:16
Rooney will play for liverpool. coleen wants to move back to the city and doesn't want him around manchester anymore. this is all her pressure. if we get a player of his standard for 5mill that's a bargain. even 20 mill is a bargain.
he cannot go back to everton and i couldnt see him playing for tranmere can u! !
19 Oct 2010 16:51:16
Ed is there any susbstance to the hodgson sacked rumour?I know there's nothin official so unofficially?
{Editor's Note: Nothing as far as I know. A regular poster has confirmed that there has been nothing on the wire service.}
19 Oct 2010 16:50:29
Work for the spl in youth development. . . . . . strachen walked out of job due to approach from purslow will be in media at weekend.
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dd
19 Oct 2010 16:42:50
19 Oct 2010 16:29:23
Been told by good friend that wayne has been talking close with stev g and want to join liverpool
ha ha ha. A boyhood evertonian and former blue, leaves man utd to come and play for liverpool!? And not just any liverpool, a liverpool currently struggling and a long way from getting back to where we all hope to be. I don't think so
Redfish
19 Oct 2010 16:36:15
When Hodgson leaves - I hope Sammy Lee is in the taxi with him.
Sammy - decent player - lousy coach, lousy manager.
RedTed
19 Oct 2010 16:30:27
Now where have these rumours started? the chef's girlfriends sister in law cuts a players hair and he said he had been sacked. ha laughable
19 Oct 2010 16:30:22
But ed it Is known , that during the bidding , all bidders were asked to commit a minimum of 25mil for player investment.
And it is known that the singapore guy made it 40mil to improve his chances.
So why do you still think the owners won't allocate funds. Also, now that we have cleared debts, we have the 25-30 mil which we would otherwise spend yearly. The owners themselves have talked about this. Agreed they are not going to splurge like the sheikh, but spending wisely doesn mean they won't commit 25mil plus player sales. Which I think they would based on their history in boston red sox.
And I follow linda pizzuti -wife of john henry who frequents twitter more than john henry herself. She has posted a link , which has a sports analyst talkin about how the new owners could do the same good things that they did at boston red sox which includes purchase of talent who will commit themselves to the cause of the club. So I don't see the new owners not even allocating 25mil.
Breathtaking PHOENIX
Red for life!
{Editor's Note: I have no idea where you got the information on the bids from. Clubs simply do not work the way you think. Any money to be spent will need to be justified by the manager to the board. If the board agree, then the other player's club will be approached. The board will not provide a pile of cash and let the manager do what he wants.}
19 Oct 2010 16:28:34
Hodgson rumour coming from a journo on t*tter! I'm sure if it was true it would have blown all over Internet already
19 Oct 2010 16:24:00
Where have the "HODGSON SACKED" rumours come from if you don't mind me asking?
Probably the same source that said Rijkaard had been sacked yesterday.
19 Oct 2010 16:22:44
WHEN hodgson goes an it has to be when an not if, what are the chances of louis van gaal comin to us? top manager plays attractive attacking football an plus when its time for jaime to retire, which lets face it is gonna be sooner rather than later, van gaal could mentor him for the job, i mean the last person he mentored was the special one an he didn't turn out to bad
whats ur thoughts ed ?
gaz
19 Oct 2010 16:22:19
ED is this true?HODGSON SACKED
{Editor's Note: Nothing official at this time.}
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It sounds like you've heard the same rumour ED have you?
Blair Mayne YNWA
{Editor's Note: We need to wait until the club makes a formal statement.}
19 Oct 2010 16:22:15
- -LFC-GLOBE-BREAKING NEWS- -
UNCONFIRMED REPORTS CLAIM THAT STEVEN GERRARD AND JAMIE CARRAGHER HAVE HAD A BUST-UP WITH FERNANDO TORRES WHILE NESV HAVE STARTED THE PROCESS TO SEARCH FOR A NEW MANAGER. MORE ON THIS SOON.
lfc globe do have good sources i guess; they have the exact teamsheet hours or a day before kickoff most matches, ahead of every body else!
harry5:o
19 Oct 2010 16:19:20
I don't mind rumours about players, but please don't get my hopes up about woy. If he is sacked I shall be weally weally happy. Even worse than souness.
19 Oct 2010 16:18:40
Ed I know when you say nothing official you mean club statement yeah? But have you heard ANYTHING at all? You seemed pretty sure he would bite the bullet at some point?? ?
{Editor's Note: You should wait until the club makes a formal statement.}
19 Oct 2010 16:18:23
Probably a couple of blue noses trying to cause a frenzy for a laugh. I'd do the same to them in the same position.
19 Oct 2010 16:16:47
Fergie's got a starring role in the new harry potter film aswell!
You cheeky manc's will do anything to get us going won't you?
Redforlife
19 Oct 2010 16:16:44
I have a theory. Rafa left not because he wanted to but because he saw no end to the boardroom troubles. So desperate to finish his 'masterplan' he kidnapps hodgson and implants a clone of his brain into him. This why hodgson plays the same system, tactics and players as rafa. Changes nothing when its not working and then defends the performance as if he has just shut his eyes and imagined everything went well! If hodgson suddenly grows a goatee then il know im right!
Whats this about hodgson has been sacked? Where are people hearing this?
Redfish
19 Oct 2010 16:16:07
I have heard from a reliable source that the following are targets for January:
In:
Keisuke Honda- 13-14 Million
Steven Defour 10 Million
Lisandro Lopez 13-15 Million
Niko Kranjcar 8 Million
Ibrahim Afellay 7-11 Million (Depending On ManU Interest)
Out:
Babel (6 Month Loan- possibly permenant 10million)
Lucas (11 Million*turned down 10 from madrid*)
Ngog (5 Million)
These are targets, and how much we are willing to spend or take for them. Not Fact!
19 Oct 2010 16:15:50
19 Oct 2010 15:35:47
19 Oct 2010 15:17:03
Id just like to say thanks to blair mayne on the manure rumour/ banter pages.
fantastic work, keep it up m8. lol
harry5:)
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Thanks for your support Harry5:)
We've been listening to these MAN'URE fans for months. Coming on here and ridiculing us when we were probably at our lowest point for many years.
It just feels good to give somthing back lol.
Blair Mayne YNWA
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(( yeah totally agree.
its so funny, manure fans are so arragant and are such glory supporters. u shud support your team through thick and thin.
i know a manc who only supports manure when they win. but if they lose or draw they don't care or pretend they don't care. i find it funny myself!
But yeah they've been goin on for a year or so now about the doom and gloom at lfc. but actually theyre in a position miles worse. we 'HAD' a debt of around 240mill but manure's have a debt of around 800mill+ .
now they sold ronaldo for 80mill but that went on the debt. in the summer rooney could of went for the same , but now rooney could even buyout his contract for as little as 5mill and then leave on free. lol.
but if someone signs him he could have a 5mill signing on fee so its not as if he will lose money from doing that.
manure fans ave been saying torres is joining them for ages to play alongside rooney (lol). but now they may even be playin at liverpool together. lol
(unlikely but not impossible)
harry5:))
19 Oct 2010 16:12:58
Honestly would love to seen king kenny back in the hot seat + this would help because hes been a scout lately so would have some good transfer ideas.
The players id love to see come in and are are as follows:
Out.
LUCAS
kyriagos
maxi
that adds at least 10-15 mill to the reported 30mill we are suppose to be gettin in january
Ins.
Mata
nzogbia
defour
so the team to save liverpool becoming the next leeds is
reina
johnson carra agger konkesky
gerrard defour
nzogbia cole mata
torres
19 Oct 2010 16:12:02
To the he two posters that say hodgson has been given the sack.
Wheres the source??! ! don't put such bold claims up without one. !
RedSox69
19 Oct 2010 16:07:49
Can anyone confirm where the reports of Hodgson being sacked are coming from
If its true its great news, the blokes clueless
19 Oct 2010 16:07:33
Did anyone else see (sorry if already posted) Gerrard/ Torres goal celebration when Stevie equalised against Sunderland? Torres with the assist and Stevie ran straight past him. Torres just trotted up to the halfway line. Normally they would be off together. Very bad sign.
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Couldn't understand myself why the captain ran off as if he'd scored the winner against utd instead of grabbing the ball and running back to the halfway line with Torres and try to win the game.
19 Oct 2010 16:06:41
Next 24 months:
-Rooney leaves Man U
-Giggs, Scholes, Neville and VDS retire
-Vidic leaves
-Replacements will be sub-standard because of lack of money
-Man U drop out of top 4
-Glazers take on more debt
-Man U are in the same position that we were, while we laugh at them from the top 4.
19 Oct 2010 16:06:03
Rafa is as mad as cheese. A product made from a white liquid in a bottle=milk.
I think he needs to move on now and start talking about his own team.
It's over Rafa let go mate!
19 Oct 2010 16:01:15
For those who are saying success will take a while. How long did it take Harry Redknapp to turn Tottenham around.
We have the nucleus of a good squad, get the right manager in, a few decent signings, get rid of the deadwood and we'll soon br back where we belong.
As for us getting Rooney? Why not? It was either Cole or Gerrard who said in the close season that they were excited about players we'd signed and ones we were going to sign. Ferguson has said today that this has been going on since before the world cup. Has Rooney mentioned something to Stevie I wonder?
19 Oct 2010 16:00:32
Rooney to Liverpool?
Don't be ridiculous.
He hates our club more than any other, Liverpool fans hate him with a passion, we don't want his ridiculous wage on our bill, we can't outbid City, he's in terrible form.
Personally I'm looking forward to seeing him go to City and become the most hated player in England.
19 Oct 2010 15:58:50
Reports coming in that hodgson has been sacked
whos the source?
19 Oct 2010 15:57:19
Am at work and just logged on to see whats happening. reports that hodge sacked?. from where, is there any truth to this?? ?
chris 1
19 Oct 2010 15:54:06
Did anyone else see (sorry if already posted) Gerrard/ Torres goal celebration when Stevie equalised against Sunderland? Torres with the assist and Stevie ran straight past him. Torres just trotted up to the halfway line. Normally they would be off together. Very bad sign.
EPortRed
19 Oct 2010 15:54:05
Has woy gone?
19 Oct 2010 15:53:51
Bring in Michael laudrup, an up and coming European coach that knows about Liverpool and has played for top clubs!
19 Oct 2010 15:52:38
Hi ed/ eds,
Just wondering if you could help on the strong rumours carra and gerrard have had a bust up with torres over his commitment to the club and attitude? carra had an exchange of words in the derby and torres gestured a sush like sign with his hands? Im not trying to stir trouble just of lot of lads who go the game with me have heard the same. I know we always jump on rumours but it makes sense the way team spirit is at the moment
19 Oct 2010 15:47:10
I NO ITS A LONG SHOT BUT NESV SHOULD DO ALL THEY CAN TO GET ROONEY I NO HE HATES US N VICE VERSA BUT MAYBE GERRARD COULD TALK HIM ROUND , AND I FOR 1 WOULD FORGIVE N FORGET, ROONEY PLUS TURAN ALL IT COULD TAKE IS 2 PLAYERS TO TURN US AROUND , WOT DOES EVEYONE THINK?
REINA
JOHNSON CARRA AGGER KELLY
TURAN GERRARD MIERELES COLE
TORRES ROONEY
SUBS KUYT JOVA JONES JONJO, LUCAS, NGOG SKRTLE , KONCHESKY
19 Oct 2010 15:46:46
Anyone read the Rafa quotes on the BBC site?
What on earth is he going on about re: a bottle of milk? ?
19 Oct 2010 15:44:15
Forget sellin glen johnson. .
He is home grown. We would want to get atleast 15mil for him which no one will pay.
I would love to see him go.
Lucas-8mil, babel-9mil, maxi-4mil are sure to leave.
21mil plus 25mil from owners is what we ll look to spend.
1 striker, 1winger out of 4 is what I think will happen for sure. And all this IF liverpool are in top half atleast, and the quality of signings will depend on who is at the helm. So don't believe rumours now. If we have an aggressive manager who thinks forward-we mite see kuyt, johnson leave.
What is your say on these points ed?
Breathtaking PHOENIX
Red for life!
{Editor's Note: As I have said, I don't expect the owners to allocate a fund.}
19 Oct 2010 15:38:35
Fergie has just confirmed that rooney is leaving manure. . chelski don't want him, AFC don't want him, citeh could go in for him but tevez left manure to get out of his lime light SO WHO DOES THAT LEAVE? wew have new owners wanting to break in to new markets and who is the biggest english name in english football other than beckham. .rooney! i don't believe it but veryone i speak to insists rooney will come to liverpool in jan on the websters rule (one year player buy out clause) meaning he'll be £5 mil tops! don't worry about hime being a blue, our number 23 has always been a blue. .
19 Oct 2010 15:35:47
19 Oct 2010 15:17:03
Id just like to say thanks to blair mayne on the manure rumour/ banter pages.
fantastic work, keep it up m8. lol
harry5:)
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Thanks for your support Harry5:)
We've been listening to these MAN'URE fans for months. Coming on here and ridiculing us when we were probably at our lowest point for many years.
It just feels good to give somthing back lol.
Blair Mayne YNWA
19 Oct 2010 15:32:30
We need to play attacking football, play another striker with torres so he can get support and more confidence, try jovanovic there or babel. We need pace on the wings put johnson on the right and cole on the left. In the middle we can have gerrard and raul. This will give us attacking flare, quality supply into the box with johnson and cole, and hopefully more goals.
So many people have been saying this to me for weeks now !
Why can't the boss see this too ?
Negative football = no points, Attacking football = points!
AND WE NEED POINTS !
SioLFC
19 Oct 2010 15:32:26
19 Oct 2010 07:55:50
Jan transfers rooney to man city £50-60m, torres to manure £40-50m, dzecko and forlan to lfc £30m and £12m, good deal for us i think.
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DD
19 Oct 2010 15:30:50
Ed, without trying to throw you in at the deep end, who do you think should be in our starting 11 in this weeks europa league match, in your opinion !
{Editor's Note: I am afraid that I don't have time to get involved in fantasy football.}
19 Oct 2010 15:29:30
I would like a FOOTBALL manager at LFC - Mourinho but it won't happen. So for me there is only one option - Hiddink. If not Rijkaard or O'neill in that order. As for outfield signings I would like to see these players in the red shirt Eljero, Elia, Afellay, Turan & Benzema. I think Ibrahimovic would be a good foil for Torres.
red deano
19 Oct 2010 15:26:09
I think that the new owners should make one 'big money' singing to bring back the excitement at Anfield, and i think it should be Wayne Rooney! Fair enough he plays for the enemy but imagine Rooney/ Torres/ Gerrard/ Cole!
Futures bright YNWA
19 Oct 2010 15:18:56
It really pisses me of that ngog is, firstly, being looked upon as dead weight, with most fans calling for him to be sold. and secondly, not being used more by roy, correct me if im wrong but is he not our leading goalscorer atm? the lad is only 20/ 21, loads of talent, pace, aerial ability, and has it in him to score more. .provided he is given the chance. i say drop torres and play babel and ngog up front. i only say drop torres because he has looked lazy and ineffective of late, maybe due to the fact that he knows he will still be picked when fit, regardless of form, a little competition may bring him back to form
19 Oct 2010 15:17:12
Every one remember that fateful day at the ataturk stadium, 3-0 down! anyone remember the feelings and emotions we all went through? feels a little bit like now didn't it!then in the second half, 11 liverpool players, with true grit and determination played their hearts out
for us, to do the impossible, and win, so lets get behind the lads and help them in their time of need, lets help turn a spark into a flame, lets re-ignite the feeling that
brings us all together as one, because we are liverpool fc, and we never walk alone, so lets believe like we did against ac in the second half. . .we can do this together!
Posted something similar last week mate, you are dead right. If you believe you can, you will but if you believe you can't you are probably right.
Kopitetillidie
19 Oct 2010 15:17:03
Id just like to say thanks to blair mayne on the manure rumour/ banter pages.
fantastic work, keep it up m8. lol
harry5:)
19 Oct 2010 15:16:45
I would like a FOOTBALL manager at Liverpool - Mourinho, but it won't happen. So for me there is only one option - Hiddink. If not Rijkaard or O'neill in that order. As for outfield signings I would like to see these players in the red shirt Eljero, Elia, Afellay, Turan & Benzema. I think Ibrahimovic would be a good foil for Torres.
19 Oct 2010 15:14:25
We should get rooney i reckon he'd come to team up wid gerrard and wind the mancs and the mancs feeder club up, if we are serious about being great again he should be our flagship signing. .
19 Oct 2010 15:13:28
So good to hear that Carra and Stevie and still buddies with Nando. We just need to get back to winning ways.
19 Oct 2010 15:12:10
We need to get behind Roy, he has been thrown into the deep end. Its the old owners who are to blame. Liverpool will bounce back. Come on ye reds.
19 Oct 2010 15:09:32
To the person who posted this
If we loose to Blackburn i will sell my season ticket on ebay
why would you want to risk getting negative feedback on ebay ?
give me a buy it now price and i will have it
bigg2966
19 Oct 2010 15:06:21
Hi well all I'm gonna say is Liverpool only need around 13 million nd some good art of buying players.
Well if we sell Johnson possibly to inter we are looking 15 mill nd babel nd maxi adds 10 nd poulsen nd insua nd jovanovic nd aqua another 20 nd 7 for Lucas brings total to 52 mill. nd 10 for kuyt. . brings to 62.
With that money I will go to valencia nd bring Mata nd Miguel nd banega for combined 30. Honda for 15 nd hamsik for another 15 . .nd lorente for around . .15 . . . hope this is what we all looking at .
19 Oct 2010 15:06:00
IF Roy leaves or sacked i would pull out all the stops to get Pelligrini. People on here say about Riijkard and how he plays good attrative footall (which he does). But remember Pelligrini also plays good attractive football and got Real Madrid there highest ever points total in their history and then sacked him.
For me IF i was J Henry or whoever is charge of these things. I'd be on the blower right now to Pelligrini's agent just my opinion.
Blair Mayne YNWA
19 Oct 2010 15:05:28
I think that the new owners should make one 'big money' singing to bring back the excitement at Anfield, and i think it should be Wayne Rooney! Fair enough he plays for the enemy but imagine Rooney/ Torres/ Gerrard/ Cole!
Futures bright YNWA
19 Oct 2010 15:02:43
Rafa criticises Christian Purslow today in his Press Conference. I thought Rafa was the one who forced out Rick Parry? I think Rafa is trying to rewrite history.
19 Oct 2010 15:02:34
To the fella who wants to sell his season ticket if we lose against blackburn i, ll have it off you for £1000 seriously as long you put it in my name next season
19 Oct 2010 14:54:29
If the rumour abot carra stevie and torres fallen out is true i think they should all go. Carra is to slow, gerrard is past it and torres does not want to be there. I would give some young guns a shot they would show passion and desire to play for the shirt. Which is missing from are team performances.
19 Oct 2010 14:53:16
Every one remember that fateful day at the ataturk stadium, 3-0 down! anyone remember the feelings and emotions we all went through? feels a little bit like now didn't it!then in the second half, 11 liverpool players, with true grit and determination played their hearts out
for us, to do the impossible, and win, so lets get behind the lads and help them in their time of need, lets help turn a spark into a flame, lets re-ignite the feeling that
brings us all together as one, because we are liverpool fc, and we never walk alone, so lets believe like we did against ac in the second half. . .we can do this together!
19 Oct 2010 14:51:13
What happened to the bloody simple 4-4-2 with janko sitting right behind torres and i believe we should play johnson in RW torres partner
my team
pepe
kelly carragher skrtel konchesky
johnson gerrard meireles cole
janko
torres
ed what do you think in this and please put it in rumours i want to see the fans view on this
19 Oct 2010 14:48:54
Can anyone imagine rooney and torres upfront. WOW
torres as leading striker with rooney tucked in behind; with gerrard behind him. WOW.
also to rub it in even more he could buyout his contract for 5mill and we could sign him on a free. then give him a 5mill signing on fee. lol
but then again this is only wishfull thinking. lol
harry5:/
19 Oct 2010 14:46:50
19 Oct 2010 14:28:57
ED: Can we have a third button. . . . "incomprehensible" for those posts that are just nowhere near understandable? :)
Pardon?
19 Oct 2010 14:46:10
Alright, about the Torres talk. I think we all agree that we wouldn't mind seeing him at Barca, Real etc. BUT WE WOULD MIND, if he went to ANY other premier league side.
I honestly think that the move to United is total crap. Torres wouldn't go there, especially since he's loyal to Liverpool.
19 Oct 2010 14:42:03
Rooney want to leaves UTD, We should go all out of our ways to get him. .
Him and Nando
Awsome
coyr
19 Oct 2010 14:38:51
19 Oct 2010 13:23:41
19 Oct 2010 11:18:15
If we loose to Blackburn i will sell my season ticket on ebay
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you have to be the shallowest chap I have ever come across on this website! have you heard of YNWA?
Kopite70
Come on Ed's you edited my comment. . I most certainly did not type chap for the B*ll end that wrote the above about season ticket! Is this banter or not!
Kopite70 YNWA {ed's note - banter and abuse are different things mate.}
19 Oct 2010 14:28:57
ED: Can we have athird button. . . . "incomprehensible" for those posts that are just nowhere near understandable? :)
19 Oct 2010 14:21:06
I'm not saying this will definitely happen (obviously it's very unlikely it will) but a word of warning to all Liverpool fans. . Success will not happen over night
Good comment mate.
Bob Loblaw
19 Oct 2010 14:11:58
Hello Ed, first of all a big thanks for the last week as I would not of been able to keep up with what was going on otherwise.
Now on to the mess on the pitch. Roy has to start playing an attacking team from the start.
GK - RIENA - Best in Prem
LB - KONCHESKY - Best we have at the Moment
CB - CARRAGHER - Need his experiance
CB - AGGER - can defend and attack
RB - KELLY - Better than Johnson
LM - JOVANOVIC - Best we have at the moment
CM - MEIRELES - Play him in his position
CM - GERRARD - Play him in his position
RM - JOHNSON - Cant defend, no KUYT, can attack
AM - COLE - Behind Torres with freedom to attack
F - TORRES - Get bodies in the box and support him.
SUBS
JONES
KYRGIAKOS
LIEVA
SHELVEY
PACHECO
BABEL
NGOG
Not good to win the league but will have to do till January. Would get us out of this mess .
EST.1892
19 Oct 2010 14:01:23
We need wingers. .and we will not be successful until we get them. .?
19 Oct 2010 13:50:13
I promise I am not a Liverpool fan, nor am I a fan of one of your so-called big rivals. However, something that has been on mind for a few days since the takeover and your defeat at Everton is the current situation.
A lot of Liverpool fans are very disappointed in the way Roy Hodgson has started his tenure at a big job. He has not been helped by the likes of persistent media intrusion into the backroom running of a club that only a few years ago was challenging for honours. Unfortunately the only headlines recently were about the debt and the mis-management by the now former owners. The call for Roy's head from a lot of fans seems a knee-jerk reaction that could also be attributed to the players not doing their jobs, especially as Hicks and Gillett can no longer face the wrath. However, new owners often listen to the fans (popularity is never a bad thing when you take over!) and the manager goes. From there, the favourite to take over is one of your terrace heroes who had a very succesful time in the past at Liverpool and is 'the one' to lead Liverpool out of the unfamiliar basement battle and on to success and up the table. Step up Mr Dalglish.
I now refer you all to only a few years ago (2007/ 2008) After a difficult start in his new job at a bigger club than he was used to, plus a lot of problems going on in the boardroom, Sam Allardyce is struggling as Newcastle boss. From there, the boardroom wranglings initially seem to be over as Mike Ashley takes over. Unhappy with Sam, Mr Ashley thinks the sensible option is to call up a former manager who also is a legend at the club possibly as a knee-jerk reaction. Subsequently, the most succesful Newcastle manager of recent times, Kevin Keegan or 'The Messiah' as he is referred in those parts comes back to save Newcastle.
You know the rest of the story.
I'm not saying this will definitely happen (obviously it's very unlikely it will) but a word of warning to all Liverpool fans. . Success will not happen over night
19 Oct 2010 13:46:10
If we are going to take a new manager he must be top notch this time. If we go for a average manager again that's how we will end up - average. It has to be from Hiddink, Ryjkaard, Van Gaal or Mourinhio. There is no use saying they will not come to us. We are Liverpool, 5 times champion of Europe. We must aim high and get the best if we want to be the best again.
19 Oct 2010 13:45:43
RE:
19 Oct 2010 10:23:01
Rikard is carp, hes on the verge of getting the boot from galatasary just now 9th in the table not good
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Good news for Liverpool so as he wouldn't cost millions in compensation. He's a good manager who developed a brilliant Barca team around Ronaldinho with talented youth (which Liverpool have) and by buying good players. I reckon he should be given a shot at the job. I'd trust him with a good transfer budget to get the right players.
19 Oct 2010 13:45:36
Ed do u think looking at the current situation even manure can miss out on 4th spot?
{Editor's Note: No I don't.}
19 Oct 2010 13:42:58
It amazes me, how even though we are conceding goals and losing games, it is the midfield and not the Defence, that fans want changing. I have posted consistently since May that our Defence Arbeloa leaving Aurelios' injuries and Carra not being the player he and some fans think he still is, were the reason we finished seventh last season. If we bought two dutch players Vlaar and Emanuelson, both young, both tallented, both can defend up the pitch and both a goal threat. Imo Ron vlaar is the ideal partner for Agger wins everthing in the air and can play the ball out of defence and can shoot from distance.We have a manager, who as always been a defensive coach, making the team play too deep.We need a manager who like rijkaard or Laudrup or Martin Jol like to play up the pitch. Yes I love dutch football. Since i was a child watching that fantastic dutch team in the 70s.I have said all along Carra should be shown the door.I have seen better centre backs shown the door at his age. I saw him on saturday hoof the ball aimlessly up front. later shouting at Torres for not moving for him.I would be arguing with him all the time if I played for liverpool probably end up having a fight with him.Showing passion his one thing, but bullying fellow players when your not exactly playing well for 18 months.is a joke.I want Ron Vlaar a proper leader.
19 Oct 2010 13:41:25
To the person who wrote this:
P.S. I agree that Hodgson is failing because he is trying to carry on with Rafa's formations and tactics. Get a couple of wingers out there and lets start attacking.
You really think that Hodgeson is going to win the respect of the players by walking in and saying "right I'm going to carry on using Rafa's tactics and formations; you know the ones that got you to 7th in the league last year"?
Fulham used a 4 - 5 - 1 formation whilst Hodgson was there the main difference being to his current formation is that players had Zamora to hit; Torres is good in the air but he's not an out an out target man like Zamora.
Hodgson is failing due to none of his signings being anywhere near top form; buying mediocre players (ffs I'd rather some of the up and coming reserves play than have Poulsen or Konchesky on the pitch); not replacing players with similar assets - i.e. no wide players have been bought yet 2 + benyoum were sold in the summer and generally not having a clue how to change a game using substitutes.
The squad has no creativity apart from Gerrard and if his playing off Torres there's no one able to do anything behind them.
How many times in the last 3 matches has a defender or midfielder gone to pass through the oppositions midfield and it has gone to the opponents player and put us right on the back foot?
Players are struggling to pass 5 yards to each other and from Hodgson's body language I don't think he knows how to get us out of it.
I'm all for supporting a manager when we play well but don't get what we deserve but we are getting what we deserve as we are not playing well and the manager can't motivate players.
I'm no supporter of Babel but he done more in the 5 mins he was on than Cole or Maxi did in the game; at least he offers somethign different.
No wingers were on Hodgson's transfer list if u believe Pulslow's interview on LFC TV yet we have central minded players playing on the wings who don't have pace!
Rant over until Thursday night when I have to listen to Roy tell me that's the best the team have played blah blah, says Torres isn't fully fit / lacking confidence blah blah and how Napoli's 7th goal went against the run of play in out 9 - 0 defeat!
I was joking in that last paragraph before I feel the hate!
Hoola
19 Oct 2010 13:23:41
19 Oct 2010 11:18:15
If we loose to Blackburn i will sell my season ticket on ebay
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you have to be the shallowest chap I have ever come across on this website! have you heard of YNWA?
Kopite70
19 Oct 2010 13:14:54
Hi ed
I don't know why you don't post up my contributions anymore. heres hoping you post this one.
{Editor's Note: Very few contributions do not get posted. If they are not rumours they will likely end up in the Banter section.}
I would like to know - at this stage of the season, is it within the rules to recall players out on loan?
{Editor's Note: It depends on the contract between the two clubs.}
if we could, aqua is one we gotta get back. .
{Editor's Note: He would not come back. He wants to make his loan a full on move.}
heres how we should play
4-3-3 - this is a team that I feel has little liabilities. or passenger players. apart from skrtel - these are all what i like to call real football players -
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johnson- skrtel- agger- aurellio
- meireles- gerrard- aquaman-
- - - babel- - torres- - cole- - -
have ngog, kuyt, rodriguez, shelvey/ poulsen/ lucas - i like the look of shelvey(better touch than lucas), konchesky and carra as subs
please post ed.
thanks
faizal
19 Oct 2010 13:13:01
Team to play Blackburn should be:
Riena
Kelly, Wilson, Skrtel, Konchesky
Maxi, Meireles, Lucas, Babel
Pachecho, Torres
19 Oct 2010 13:09:19
Ed in your personal opinion how many games/ days untill they give the boot to roy?
{Editor's Note: I expect it to be driven by the time taken to find a replacement. However, by my calculation it will 23.6 days time.}
19 Oct 2010 13:00:47
Hey Ed and all :-). Firstly big up to all the Ed's, having to answer each post regarding how long Hodgson has left, i must have seen over 50 of those posts. Yet you still comment on those post, that's commitment. Jan transfer window is still a long time away and this gap before the window is the crucial time. I'm not a major fan of Roy's but that's who we have at the moment so we must just accept it for now. I don't know if he must be convinced we 2-0 down before a game starts, so he can look to attack in a game instead of defending, then counter-attacking. Even on the counter attacks, there is no pace / sense of urgency, thus the other team can get back into their defensive positions. Why not start with the team that ended the Everton game. Possibly moving Carra back into cb with Skertel and playing Kelly rb. Maybe put Joe Cole instead of Ngog (but on the wing), with Jovanovic and Torres up front. Babel has the pace we lack and Jovanovic looks to have that sense of urgency we need.
When Jan window comes, whether it's Roy incharge (I personally hope Pellegrini), manager must buy the following players:
Ibrahim Afellay
Adam Johnson (If possible, though highly unlikely :-( )
Turan (If we can't get Adam Johnson)
Banega
I doubt we are gonna go on a spending spree in Jan, but all these players have confidence (which could spread accross the team) and will offer the creativity needed in the team.
Obviously some deadwood should go, to make way for these players.
Lucas, Poulson, Maxi, Ngog.
The rest are needed for the moment until the summer window
South African YNWA
19 Oct 2010 12:50:19
Lets all be Positive, we have new owners so we should be better off than we were before.
Lets get behind the players and Manager now. We can not look at the future, we need to first sort out the present.
We need to get our mindset on playing a 4-4-2. Can not rely on one man upfront.
I would play the following and use the resources we have.
Reina
Carragher - Skrtel - Agger - Konchesky
Johnson - Gerrard - Mereiles - Cole
Babel - Torres
We need to be more attacking. We as a team need to work as one. Have faith in defenders holding out, so strikers need to get ball to create chances.
I have faith in the team, management and owners.
We as supporters need to follow suite and have faith in our CLUB! !
19 Oct 2010 12:47:05
To the original ed:
Read this site for a long time and ever since you first started commenting on the back of posts, you seem to have an objective, realistic outlook on all matters of concern regarding LFC. I myself tend to jump around erratically when anything goes wrong and have had to take out insurance on my TV. I am possibly the worst type of fan there is when comes to supporting as I am quite pessimistic when things go wrong and am on top of the world whenever we win. I have lost count of the amount of in-depth discussions I have had with my mates regarding what and where it went wrong (here's a quick list of what we usually cover)
Previous Owners the one area no LFC fan is divided on, bad news always after money as their main objective, ownership sorted now, I think and hope they are what they say they are. I know a physio at LFC and he has said some good things upon meeting them.
Rafa I always hoped he would win and be at the club for a long time and I think he would have if he'd had been backed astronomically. However he spent a lot of money (all be it the banks) and we surely should have at least one decent winger and another striker for that money. I can't decide whether he budgeted and took a risk on players working out and sacrificed a bit of quality to get the quantity he need to make his tactics work, he certainly one of the best tacticians in the game, or did he genuinely think some of the players were good enough. In my opinion Lucas may be a good player in other leagues but he can't play centre mid in Prem or any English league as he is too weak. I said after a friendly against Atletico Madrid at Anfield that if we played him centre we would get relegated (pessimist in me) and ok we didn't get relegated but we were dreadful last season. Towards the end of the game he brought vorinin on for lucas and dropped Gerrard back to centre and as soon as he did athletic struggled on stopping the ball getting behind the back line and we had more chances in the last 10 mins than we did the whole game. I know it was only a friendly but had Gerrard been there for the whole game we would have destroyed them. Ngog is simply not good enough at present he cannot hold the ball up and conceded possession too easily. Kuyt I like but he is not a winger and surely pace on the wings is a must for success. At present Id play Johnson on the right and Kelly right back. A few more positive points about Rafa are that he made a lot of money for Liverpool. If he'd been allowed to spend do you think he would have signed some of the players he signed or do you think he would have got better quality in. Youth system and certainly the new coach are a positive, I know he spent a lot of money on youth but he overhauled it twice and its seems to be good at the moment so possibly got it right in the end. The new youth coach, Rodolfo Borrell said when he took over. Most of the youth squad were at least three years away from breaking into the first team, and given his current record of training youth players I for one am going to trust his judgement.
Roy Not my first choice before he took over but I understood why he got the Job. Man Management style was good and Liverpool has a lot of players that hadn't lived up to their billing, Babel for one. I hoped he was going to bring this to us when he came but he seems to have left it behind and carried on with rafas tactics of a 4-5-1 with lucas in the middle which has disappointed me. I like Meireles good player but he's not a right midfielder and if Roy wanted a winger why didn't he sign one. Meireles and Gerrard in the centre I think, won't win us the league but would get us out of the mess we are in now, certainly get more creation for the forwards. Id either play Cole behind Torres and a Jovanovic or Pacheco on the left or Jovanovic/ Babel up front and Cole on the left or Cole on the left and Pacheco behind Torres. I know there is quite a few options there but if one isn't working out you would could simply switch the players without out using subs so early in the game, I know you're not a fan of Joe Cole, I personally am and again I'm aware of his performances so far but I think that could be said about the whole team. He worked well at Chelsea, I just hope he can rediscover form.
Another reason I am disappointed with Roy is the fact that he hasn't really given any of the youth a shout and it's not as though were on a role at the moment. Pacheco is better than Ngog in my opinion and Shelvey is better than lucas. I have heard you talk highly of Mavinga in the past would he be worth a go at left back?
I appreciate there is alot to cover here but I rely on Level headed fans to talk some sense and save my TV a horrible fate. If you're too busy mate no prob's it has started flickering a bit anyway.
Bob Loblaw
{Editor's Note: Great post Bob. I think that you have provided a fair summary of what many of the fans really think when they sit down and put their mids to it, and they are not simply reacting to a single performance or loss. In my view many of the problems stem from playing a number of players out of position. The suggestions that you make do seem sensible.}
19 Oct 2010 12:24:53
All this talk about liverpool not sacking there managers in the middle of the season is not really true. i don't recall us sacking anyone from shanks to daglish. they all resigned. . souness was sacked in january (mid-season) evans was asked to leave (oct). . houllier & rafa (end of season). .
when roy was appointed i liked him as a man, but did worry about what tactics he would bring, as i couldnt remember watching any of his sides attack. and i of course remembered blackburn and the mess he created there. he left and they went down!
i think this job is far too big for him, we as a club have to act now. not in january as that's far too late. we have now a run of games (chelsea apart) that we should be expected to win comfortably. as this is liverpool and we are expected to win games. but sadly i cannot for the life of me see where the next win is going to come from. i will stick my neck on the line now and say blackburn will beat us this weekend. . they are strong, have strength and like to pump the ball in the box. our players at the min, get out muscled in every department, and i cannot see them fighting and scrapping for points like you have too in the bottom 5 of the table.
so please NESV make your first big decision and get us a manager that can kick these players up the backsides and make them play with a bit more pride in the shirt!
19 Oct 2010 11:55:24
Before slating Rijkaard based on his failure in Turkey, it's worth noting that Guus Hiddink failed at Fenerbahce (sacked after a year) , Loachim Loew failed twice in Turkey, Vicente del Bosque failed at Besiktas, Luis Aragones failed at Fenerbahce. Success in Turkey is not always the best way to judge a manager's career. After all Graeme Souness had a pretty successful season at Galatasaray. No-one is calling for his return.
19 Oct 2010 11:48:11
If it was my money. I would write a blank cheque to get
Johan Cruyff :
on a five year contract to manage the club and build it up from the bottem. Give him freedom to do things his way.
Have a release clause for both parties if it was not working out, say after 3 years. I am sure he would love the challenge.
We need a revolution at the club not a one year wonder.
Barcelona ( dare I say Spain) are where they are today because of his work at the club when he was manager.
I can live without trophies for a couple of years if we end up playing quality football with quality youngsters learning how to play properly.
Come on NESV - we don't want you to spend 50m on a player we want you to be visonary and lay the foundations for a longer lasting success. If you are in this for the long term this is the way to go.
Anyone agree with me?
RED FIRST & LAST
{Editor's Note: He is in his 60s, out of managment/coaching for 13 years and has spent the past tear as Catalonia coach. I think yesterday's proposal to have Jason McAteer is just as good.}
19 Oct 2010 11:40:44
I think people are being a little unfair on Rijkaard. Yes he had a lot of great players at Barca to work with but he managed to hold a few big egos in check whilst he won the league and CL and the manner in which he prioritised youngsters from La Masia, integrating them into the first team quickly, has to be applauded. He wouldn't be my first choice, but i'd hardly say his time at Barca was assured success - he was pivotal in blooding young talent into the first team which is something we've lacked from managers for years now.
19 Oct 2010 11:18:15
If we loose to Blackburn i will sell my season ticket on ebay
19 Oct 2010 11:16:56
Liverpool need to get rid of Babel, jovanoic, Maxi, Konchesky , Poulson , Hogson, Sammy Lee, Degen , Aquillani, all backroom and sports science staff what a waste of money i say keep the Greek his a good squad player we need a top quality striker and some fast wingers a left back that isn't a west ham reject and a real defensive midfielder not like Roys signings all attack minded he should be sacked for this disaster he is out of his depth northampton, Blackpool, Everton it just gets me Angry he needs to go
19 Oct 2010 11:01:26
The fans need to play their part in our recovery. We need Istanbul like support every game for 90 minutes from now on, not the usual moans and groans whenever we give the ball away or when things aren't going our way. We're expecting our new owners to pull us out of the s*eep, but why should they if we're not gonna play our part. Players, manager, owners and supporters need to make Anfield a place to to be feared again, it's a team game, and we're all in the starting line up on Sunday.
19 Oct 2010 10:56:19
Liverpool 11/ 1 to be relegated from Premier League - ha ha
19 Oct 2010 10:52:03
Next arse in charge
Joe Januszewski has emerged as the Liverpool fan within the New England Sports Ventures empire who persuaded John W Henry to proceed with his £300million Anfield buy-out.
Januszewski, a senior vice-president at NESV, 'I'm a 20-year follower of the mighty Reds, Liverpool FC is my passion. 'I sent an email to John and Larry Luccinho (Red Sox CEO) a couple of months ago and told them to monitor the ownership situation.
'It was as a fan, really. I told him that maybe we should take a look
19 Oct 2010 10:45:59
Remember if you do not have 26-30 points by Dec 31 you will get relegated, no matter who comes in they will not settle until mid Feb, thats far to late, stop spending your new owners money, start getting to grips with were you are in the table, its time to grind out results, 12 games until the window re-opens, 36 points up for grabs, thats should be your only target, focus on the prize.A football fan.
19 Oct 2010 10:45:41
Ex barca manger who changed barca for the better frank should get liverpool job
woy will be gone for spurs game if not before. i worked it out the other day 9 point upto spurs game before everton game, but wernt to be so i think we got 6points in the bag in 6 games
blackburn home 1 point
bolton away 0points
chelsea home 1 points
hard draw as we do peform for big games
wigan away 0points
stoke away 1 point
west ham 3 points
by this point in time we have a new manager in line to come in and beat spurs with the best team performance played all season. can any one argue with my points tally at the minute the way liverpool playing under roy
believable = agree
unbelieve = disagree
(ed please publish as i would like to see results)
19 Oct 2010 10:45:33
RE: fails to get a win vs Blackburn
Roy will get 1 POINT in the next two games. Wotch this space.
19 Oct 2010 10:44:03
Roy can have liverpool at the bottom of the table come Xmas, and u fans will love him for it, cause u will know that the players are rubbish, the owners are cheap and the managers the only man still left in sinking ship.
Bye bye Torres, enjoy Old trafford. Gerrard may go too.
19 Oct 2010 10:40:57
RE: Fergie will be lining up for Torres to replace Rooney.
I think fergie has learnt not to buy liverpool rejects. he is still hurting from owen purchase. why buy another loser.
19 Oct 2010 10:39:11
Stuck between a rock and hard place. The manager has to go or should he stay. Its more a question of time.
Hodgson is lucky that NESV are cheap. Not prepared to fork out for new manager, but it doesn't stop fans from dreaming of something better. Someone who will be able to do the job that Benitez wasnt able to. A technical coach that is interested in great young players.
LFC is 10 year project and a young man's game. Hodgson is close to retirement age. Really doesn't have the fire/ determination that fergie showed with his "to knock liverpool off perch" speech. Will he create technical players at anfield? Does he have the ability to find a cheap player like Steve Bruce or mark hughes can?
19 Oct 2010 10:34:18
In response
Lets forget about this Gerrard playing off Torres tactic. . Gerrard needs to play alongside Maireles as a centre midfielder.Yes it worked well for the first season but now teams have sussed it out.Why Hodgson is playing Meireles on the right baffles me, he is a top international central midfielder.Give Jovanovic a go as Torres 's strike partner and please play with 2 strikers.
100% bang on mate, rafa only used him there because he used to play mach as the holding midfielder and alonso as the playmaker, he would play him on the right , the left and up front, BUT i remember gerrard being compared to the next patrick viera, the next roy keane.
weve already got one of the best defensive midfielders in the world, h-ckin use him there roy you duck, gerrard mirelles central, that's it no arguments, two wingers two strikers.
19 Oct 2010 10:32:44
Ed, its not in our tradition to sack a manager after less than 10 games. However its also true to say that we have not in over 50 years had a worse start than this. The next 3 league matches are critical. If we get two wins from these matches we will be in the top half of the table, confidence will return and Roy will then have time to put his ideas into practice. On the other hand if we don't pick up many points from these games the pressure will really be on and I can see the board then having to make a very difficult decision. Whether we like him or not there is a manager available with premiership experience who could get some fire into the players bellies. Martin O'Neil could do the job and I have little doubt that he would guarantee us safety. Whether he is the manager to take us all the way to the top is a different question, but if in a few weeks time we need to say goodbye to Roy, he will be an option (though not a popular one) to manage us to the end of the season. Reality Red
{Editor's Note: I agree that sacking the manager after only a few games is not the really the right thing to do, but I do recognise that the start could really not have been much worse. What I don't know is the impact that the off field turmoil had on the performances over the past couple of months. As I said on Sunday, if Liverpool had won at Everton then to a man the posters would be saying "Roy has turned it around" etc. But if he does need to be replaced, I am not convinced that Martin O'Neil is the way forward - but as a stop gap he is a much better option than Kenny Dalglish. Whether or not O'Neil would consider such a short term contract or not is another matter. The ideal would be to start looking for a replacement manager/coach now and hang on for the right man.}
19 Oct 2010 10:30:18
Liverpool needs a major overhaul of the squad whoever the manager may be.
GK- This is probably the only area where we're ok Reina is the best goalkeeper in the league, and Brad Jones is a decent backup, plus he qualifies as home-grown.
RB Glen Johnson hasn't looked anything like the player we signed from Portsmouth for £17m YES £17m! Looks a liability in defence and in attack isn't looking as dangerous as before. He has been linked with moves abroad, and if we can recoup or even better the money we spent on him I think we should accept. Phillip Degen is still on the books and should be sold or released immediately. In Stephen Darby we have a good, young player who could step up, with Martin Kelly capable of filling in also. If we were to sign anyone Gregory Van Der Wiel from Ajax would be the man to go for.
LB With two injury prone players in Fabio Aurelio and Paul Konchesky, it is an area that requires major reinforcements. Konchesky was signed for £3m and one of our brightest prospects, but he looks out of his depth I would rather have kept Milly Insua and therefore kept Lauri Dalla Valle. Fabio is far too injury prone to be considered. So we should aim to have Milly Insua PLUS one more LB. There aren't many good left-backs around, but Taye Taiwo has yet to sign a new contract at Marseilles he would definitely be an improvement on Konchesky and Aurelio.
CB Agger, Carragher, Skrtel, Kygriakos, Kelly and Ayala. For me Skrtel and the Greek can go. Soto was signed to replace Hyypia and he hasn't done that but recently has been our best CB, which says it all really. Skrtel is a not a good enough player to merit being 1st choice. We should sell these 2 and bring in a quality defender e.g. Mertesacker, Hangeland, Cahill (HG), Shawcross (HG) and promote Ayala and Kelly
CM Sell Lucas and Poulsen pronto. Poulsen is proably the worst player to put on the Liverpool shirt in the last decade, and Lucas is really poor how he is in the Brazil squad I don't not know? Gerrard and Meireles are quality players, as is Aquilani HE MUST NOT BE SOLD! To supplement these 3, I would sign Ever Banega the closest thing around to Alonso. With Spearing and Shelvey we have 2 youngsters who could make it - Shelvey more likely than Jay.
Attackers Cole, Kuyt, Jovanovic, Babel, Maxi. The last 3 I would happily see sold. Maxi and Jovanovic have followed the trend of our recent Bosman signings cheap and nasty. Babel had a v.promising 1st season but the signing of Riera curtailed his 1st team opportunities, and since then he has done nothing of note. Dani Pacheco is more deserving of a spot than Maxi! We have been linked with a lot of players, but for me Arda Turan and Eljero Elia are then players to sign. Young, skilful and in the case of Elia unbelievably quick. How Roy Hodgson felt Van Der Vaart wasn't the type of player were looking for it beyond me he was exactly the player we needed.
Strikers it is sad when after Torres our next striker is N'Gog. N;Gog has done brilliantly when he has played, but he shouldn't be the one to replace Torres. Kuyt was a £10m striking flop, come good as a wide midfielder, and the amount of good strikers we have let go Crouch, Bellamy, Baros
is unbelievable. Recent players linked Lisandro Lopez and Mario Gomez are the right sort of names, Lopez would be my choice has scored goals wherever he has been.
19 Oct 2010 10:26:44
Best signing we could do now is move heaven and earth and get Guus Hiddink. We need him NOW.The way we are playing and the body language of the players is bad, Hiddink would turn it around very quickly.Sorry Woy you have too go.Ed do you think Woy has long left to turn things around?
REDDAN
{Editor's Note: It looks like he will probably be on his way sooner rather than later. Hiddink is not an option - he simply will not be available unless you are proposing a job share for Liverpool/Turkey.}
19 Oct 2010 10:23:37
Ed, do you believe Hodgson would be out in this month? I hope , he does. . possibly our worst signing ever.
{Editor's Note: It is looking more probable than possible. Also, it is unlikely that he would go based on one or two results, it will be a decision base don what is seen to be best for the club. If he is to go you would expect another manager to have been lined up first - and that in itself is a problem.}
19 Oct 2010 10:23:01
Rikard is carp, hes on the verge of getting the boot from galatasary just now 9th in the table not good
19 Oct 2010 10:22:07
Bent last chance to join a big club? he couldn't hack it at sputs little fisj big ocean syndrome! tried a smaller club in sunderland and did well so why go even lower to the likes of liverpool? he's been relegated once with charlton already and doubt he would relish another relegation battle? and whilst were on the subject of big clubs sorry to say but all the big boys now see you as yesterdays chip paper! your just an old has been scalp now for the lower league clubs!
19 Oct 2010 10:21:31
Ed! there are rumours that Fergie will be lining up for Torres to replace Rooney. . can it happen. .
It would be disaster for Liverpool and their fans. . anyone but Man Utd. . can't even think of any Liverpool player going to Man Utd (not even his highness Lucas. .)
{Editor's Note: I think it most unlikely to happen.}
19 Oct 2010 10:17:04
Rikjaard being linked with the job.
i for 1 would welcome. i think he would demand and get the respect of all players to perform to highest standards, plus he would attract good high profile players in future. i can not see woy attracting the best of what is available. joe cole was sighned by the name lfc and jamie rednapp (saying he would become a kop idol0. frank would jump at the chance to get away from turkey and join another big euro club, when he joined barca they wer way behind rea, l he got the team together and took them an extra couple ov levels. and started the sexy football they playing today
19 Oct 2010 10:12:53
Aint it bout time, that we got rid of babbel, lucas, maxi, the greek and johnson imean when is enough going to be enough with these players.They are not up to the job time and time again they don't perform on the pitch i mean am sick of it am paying good money like te thousand of people week in week out i can see it so shorly the manager must i mean come on enough is enough.
19 Oct 2010 10:10:17
BLUE PRINT:How come teams like barca, ajax, arsenal, man city produce quality youth players.
Barca's youth academy has to be up there as one of the best. bara have produced Puyol, Valdes, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Fabregas, Pique. great players
Arsenal's youth is bought to the club. They don't produce youth they buy players developed primarily by other clubs and academies.
Boca Juniors also seem to produce player after player in argentina. Gremio's academy produced Ronaldinhoh, Anderson and Lucas Leiva
Ajax are the blue print and regularly produce great players over time. The fact that hundreds of professional clubs attempted to synthesise the Ajax model would suggest theirs they are superior.
Chelsea seem to be sitting on youth explosion. Just weighting to happen.
Man u havnt produced much since giggs, scholes, beckham. Liverpool havn't produced quality since Owen and Gerrard.
Harry had a bit of setup at west ham producing Rio ferdinand, lampard, carrick, j cole, g johnson ect. Most of the england team came from West ham.
So it is possible to produce good english players.
Man city produced Micah Richards, Steven Ireland, Michael Johnson, Nedim Onouha and Sturridge. Man city could really been something if Oil money didn't turn up. They had great youth at the club
Real Madrid have produced alot of players that play in europe, but nothing of real quality that would get into a real team. Unlike bara who produce real quality players.
So i figure the youth set up should be judged on the quality of the players it produces. Not the number throw the door.
Which brings me back to the uk, I figure Senrab F.C has produced the best young players that have gone on to make it in the premiership. Senrab FC is a Sunday League football team, based at Wanstead Flats in East London. They run fifteen teams for age groups ranging from 5 to 17 years old and they seem to get a few players.
This just has me thinking back to Gerrard and Owen. Gerrard was a natural athlete player. He would of made it any where because of his physical ability. Just lucky he knocked on LFC door. Micheal Owen as also natural talent, his speed meant he would make it. Rooney also was a strong kid and would of made it anywhere.
A true player is the creative soul. someone like zola or messi or even George best. People who learnt to do magical things with the ball. Then bara and Ajax would of produced those kinds of players.
England never really learnt how to produce a player with real skill like paul gascoigne, Beckham, scholes.These players may be the exception that proves the rule
19 Oct 2010 10:08:10
Lets forget about this Gerrard playing off Torres tactic. . Gerrard needs to play alongside Maireles as a centre midfielder.Yes it worked well for the first season but now teams have sussed it out.Why Hodgson is playing Meireles on the right baffles me, he is a top international central midfielder.Give Jovanovic a go as Torres 's strike partner and please play with 2 strikers.
19 Oct 2010 10:03:18
Morn ed how do u think it will go WE NEED NEW PLAYERS IN AN LOTS OUT?? i think roy has 1 more game in the seat for me the blackburn game will be his last if we go down to them. i like the man but i can't see the NEW owners seeing this carry on little gaffa needs to find a back bone an fast. are players need a roasting they need to take some of the blame for this. roy needs to start letting go he is to much of a mr nice guy they are so flat no fire in are game. the players are not working for roy an it needs sorting soon if this goes on there will start to be infighting from the players. carra, stevey, torro had a spat after the everton game so they say an it will carry on an on if its left like this ed whot do u think JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE {ed's note - I don't think we need many changes in playing personnel, we just need the ones we have got to start caring about the club.}
19 Oct 2010 09:25:16
In response
Lets not forget we used some of our so called hungry youngsters against Northampton and were humiliated! !
No mate he used nearly all of them, a very stupid and irresponsible thing to do, he should of just used 3 at the most at any one time
19 Oct 2010 09:21:57
Waiting for the Jan window to re-open?wrong, if you don't get another 20 points buy dec 31st, you will get relegated, thats 6 wins and 2 draws from 12 games, its time to start doing what other teams used to do to you, choose the teams you believe you can beat, and go for 3 points, teams you think you will struggle against shut up shop, park the bus, grind out a draw, all very negative I hear you say, it could be the key to your prem survival, it won't matter who you buy in jan, players need time to settle in, most transfers are not completed on Jan 1stso your looking at the middle of Feb, thats to late, you need the 26-30 point by Dec 31st, or its relegation, no ifs or buts, Liverpools future hangs on the points you get before the window re-opens, Im not a Liverpool fan, and this is not a wind up post, its an observation from a football fan of 45 years, forget passion and pride, its time to do whatever it takes to get those points on the board.A football fan.
19 Oct 2010 09:14:24
In regard to the following statement: [PS: Roy's tactics is changing formation to suit his players. So far in Liverpool I havent seen him doing that. He's carrying on with Rafa's. That's what letting him down. I hope he understands this problem and solves it as soon as possible.]
I agree with this, I hoped Roy woul of stopped playing Lucas in the traditional midfield role because torres and gerrard don't get the service need when he does.
19 Oct 2010 08:37:55
Bearing in mind the nationality of our new owners does anyone think they might try to get Bob Bradley in as Manager? He has done a decent job with the USA national side.
I know he has a contract with the national side until 2014 but you never know.
19 Oct 2010 08:32:44
I think that we have started trying to find excuses for our poor form recently, From money troubles to managers tactics, also player form and attitude. Now what I think is that Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher are so big at Liverpool that they are bigger than Roy and don't respesct him as much as they should. Think about it, Kenny Dalglish would be a great appointment. Who is bigger around Anfield than the King? Noone! He would get Carra and Stevie begging to play for him because they are fans of his and watch him play when they grew up, maybe Carra didn't like him as a blue. The first thing he would do is unite the dressing room, that's what we need right now.
What do you think of my comments ed?
{Editor's Note: Gerrard would only have been nine when Dalglish finished his career - so it seems unlikely I am afraid.}
19 Oct 2010 08:09:20
NESV's meeting with SOS yesterday was to outline their plans for the club, but the subject of Hodgson did not come up. However, reports in some papers this morning are indicating that part of Hodgson contract had a release clause subject to a new takeover. So the question is "will Henry make his first major decision soon?".
Gav the red
19 Oct 2010 07:58:58
Ed, any truth in this do you think?
Also spotted at Ewood Park: Rijkaard's agent next to Ten Cate. Interesting, because Hodgson's certainly not there.
Chris
{Editor's Note: NO.}
19 Oct 2010 07:55:22
Ed, at the Blackburn V Sunderland match i noticed a number of managers together watchin the game, Alex Ferguson & David Moyes were there and beside them Kenny Daglish! I thought this was a bit strange, shouldn't Roy have been attending this match to watch Blackburn seen as though we're playing them this weekend? Maybe Roy won't be in charge this weekend, it'd be ironic if Kenny was back in charge this weekend against Blackburn, not looking too good for Roy IMO. . Do u think Roy could be gone this soon?
Could it be he still likes to watch the team he managed to the premiership rather than hes scouting them coz hes gonna be in charge?
RED BOB
19 Oct 2010 07:48:19
Realistic Liverpool Transfers I would make (January)
Ins:
Honda
Aguero
Taiwo
Outs:
Babel
Poulsen
Maxi
1st Team
Reina
Johnson Carragher Agger Taiwo
Gerrard Meireles
Cole Honda
Torres Aguero
Subs: Shelvey, Pacheco, Aurelio, Kuyt, Ngog, Jovanovic, Jones
19 Oct 2010 07:14:12
Walking my women? i have to go to liverpool to do that! surelyeven u can see that!
19 Oct 2010 06:50:14
Ed wiv all teh probs we having on the wings and in defence then maybe woy should go wiv this formation
. . . . . . . .reina. . . . . . .
. . .kelly. . ayala. . .agger.
johnson. . . . . . . . . . aurellio
. . . meireles. . gerrard. . . . . .
. . . . . . . .cole. . . . . . . . .
. . .babel/ jova. . .torres. .
but with 3 good buys in jan we can convert this into either 4-4-2/ 4-3-3
personally i would go for
benega-12m
taiwo/ gibbs-10m
llorente-15m
either of hese wingers mata, affeley, elijia, turan, sanchez , honda
and as you can see i have said gibbs at lb wat do you think of him?? ?? ?
and i know the players i have stated add up to a bit but we could generate a good bit of the funds by off loading players who are not needed plus if signed honda im sure he would generate his own wages given the commercial aspects of his sale
19 Oct 2010 04:42:50
Fan from Singapore. Hodgson has to replaced asap. His replacement? I would suggest - Louis Van Haal. B Munich was in the same situation as Liverpool after the Klinnsman farce. VH came in, shook the whole team and took them to the Bundesliga. Your thots Ed?
{Editor's Note: Why would Louis van Gaal leave Munich?}
19 Oct 2010 04:39:17
"I don't have 'Sheikh' in front of my name, " said the American, referring to Manchester City owner Sheikh Mansour.
"When we spend a dollar, it has to be wisely. We can't afford contracts that do not make long-term sense."
He added: "We have to be smart, bold, aggressive."
19 Oct 2010 04:07:12
I have a lot of respect for Joe Cole coming out and stating his own form is below par and pledging to improve his game. I think Hodgson's tactics are weak but still think some players need to shoulder responsibility (Cole being one of them). Feel sorry for the bloke to some degree - hasnt been given that central role he was promised when he came here. He is no left winger in my opinion - get him in the hole Roy - LIVERPRES
19 Oct 2010 02:26:30
"The main problem with Liverpool is that back to front you are c* p. Reina, Gerrard and Torres are your crown jewels, and they look like they want to play for someone else. At best, your poor to basic average. Wake up, Wise up and take an honest look at the team you support. You were well beaten at home by the relegation favourites; Blackpool. You hung on against West Brom, the same against Sunderland. You have been incredibly lucky to get the 6 points that you have amassed so far. Then to add insult to injury, Everton out played, out thought and had the most comfortable games for many, many a year. Liverpool are in trouble, serious trouble and changing the manager is only going to make things worse."
I am a life long Liverpool fan and I'm afraid to say that I agree with this non-fan's view (except I believe replacing Roy would help if the correct replacement could be found). It's time we took a long hard look at ourselves. We're a huge club globally but that is diminishing every time we churn out poor performances like at Everton. We are no longer league winners, European giants or even one of the Big 4 and a lot of work needs to be done before we are.
I know this will spark a reaction but I think it's time to leave our history in the LFC museum and start thinking with ambition and motivation to become a good footballing side again. .even if that means dispensing with a lot of LFC tradition and Boot Room philosophy. Bill, Bob and Joe are long gone and so are the major trophies (2005 excluded) and Kenny, after a decade away from management, is not the answer.
We have new owners on board with a new approach and their own philosophy. All previous attempts to emulate Bob Paisley's style of football and Shankley's philosophy have failed - let's give thanks and respect to their success but accept we are in 2010 and we need a New Liverpool to bring us glory - a young, progressive, tactically aware manager would of primary importance. ynwa
CLH
19 Oct 2010 02:22:56
I think Gilles Yapi Yapo from basel is just the kind of Defensive midfielder we need at liverpool.
19 Oct 2010 02:10:22
Hodgson guided the Swiss national team to the last 16 of the 1994 World Cup and qualification for Euro 1996;
Ok, managing a international team is alot differentthan club management. He doesn't have to purchase players and most of the time he is having dinner + wotching games with his buddies. he can organise world class talent to play defensive football. Erikson can do the same provs nothing about his abilty to change at club level
People always say He was flop at Blackburn but we forget that he guided them to a UEFA Cup spot.
Well blackburn was his first english management pointment in premiership. He did well first season, but his transfer dealing let him down in the end. he purchased flops and in the end he took blackburn into drop zone before he was fired.
Do I have to mention what he did with Fulham?
(Also he was voted LMA Manager of the Year 2010)
Well fulham, he took fulham into drop zone too, and almost sent them into firstdivsion, but jamie bullard and mcbride saved the team. He did get a few average prem players at fulham like hangerland, gk, duff, ect. But i really could see him doing anything more with that team.
Now LFC is different- we have world class players. big expectations. But will have to start from the youth up. Thats not nothing that hodgson has ever done. He also never played attractive football.
His life has been build on introducing 4-4-2 and zonal marking to countries what played otherwise. He bought english fire to sweden, He isn't a technical coach like wenger, or has the fire like fergie. He won't be able to splash the cash like beni.
Plus Hodgson doesn't have a pair of balls, won't play his style of football. So what good is he to lfc at the moment. we didn't want a beni copycat. I never liked a beni style of play, but it got results.
Hodgson has taken all the bad parts of beni, and decided to forget about the result. He is the mental if he thinks he will stay in a job. im surpised he isn't at the club picking fights like beni did, he has all the bad traits and none of the good points.
please, his only real success was a inter when he turned them into fitness robots that would play for ever.
I don't agree with his style of play. I want to see attacking football at anfield. Frankie boy will try to put on a show for us fans. we know we are not going to be toppin the league. so lets enjoy the football and big score lines.
19 Oct 2010 02:09:43
If the rumors about Rijkaard is true and if Liverpool Board is really looking to sack Roy and appoint him- - - -Then I'm speechless. I can't believe my beloved club has fallen this far. It's not only the fault of owners, board, managers, players. We, the supporters also have our own- - too unreal, high expectations and not understanding the situation, coming out with ridiculous ideas, blaming everyone. And all this people here. .use your head, Rijkaard's a Turkish-reject and we're seeing him as the one who can turn things around in Liverpool?- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
To the person who said this. We will be lucky if rijKaard wants to come. what he achieved in barcelona means nothing to you? coming out of the decade dominated by madrid, to make them champions of europe and spain (a couple of times) is what every manager dream to have. do u think any of the big players we whish to have will come for Roy? Yes rafa left us with poor squad with all the money spent in years, but he never left us with a squad to be in bottom 2. Roy bought in his first season, poulson and Konchesky and loan away aqullani and insua. transfer of merieles was faccilitated by christian (chairman) and the opportunity of his availability for a fair price. but those two players played under ROY and he recommended them. what has Roy achieved of what can be aknowlledged by a bigger team expectations like Liverpool. swedish league and Nowregian leadue. please!
If a liverpool Manager is satisfied with a performance 2-0 defeat, no clear cut chances, then he is never meant to have that job. our club isn't fulham or finland.
ed what do you think? can you post this please
19 Oct 2010 01:18:25
19 Oct 2010 00:51:32
Ed, at the Blackburn V Sunderland match i noticed a number of managers together watchin the game, Alex Ferguson & David Moyes were there and beside them Kenny Daglish! I thought this was a bit strange, shouldn't Roy have been attending this match to watch Blackburn seen as though we're playing them this weekend? Maybe Roy won't be in charge this weekend, it'd be ironic if Kenny was back in charge this weekend against Blackburn, not looking too good for Roy IMO. . Do u think Roy could be gone this soon? {ed's note - it is possible, though Kenny was always going to the match anyway. I would think it more likely the new owners will wait until they have a replacement lined up before they swing the axe though.}
seems like a scottish get together
harry5
19 Oct 2010 01:11:13
All these rumours are a load of hotdogs there no truth in them!
If u want the truth il give u the truth are new manager will be:
ronald mcdonald
19 Oct 2010 01:07:16
Hey ed u said
{ed's note - there are lots of players falling out within the club at the moment, Gerrard and Carragher are not popular right now. They have too much power and are beginning to be resented by the rest. I believe Roy will be gone sooner rather than later, within the next couple of weeks, maybe even sooner than that. That is just based on my reading up on NESV, how Roy is seen by the players and fans and the fact that if he is removed within a month of the takeover it costs less to sack him. Brings these things into focus when you hear about Strachan just ripping up his contract and not taking a penny when he and Steve Gibson spoke and decided it wasn't working out.}
mate do u no any examples of players not getting on?
19 Oct 2010 00:21:09
- - - - - - reina- - - - - - -
kelly- ayala- agger- mavinga
amoo- gerrard- -meireles- cole
- - - - pacheco- - - - -
- - - - - torres- - - - -
sorted. ed, what'd you think? {ed's note - I would say that is just about our strongest line up.}
19 Oct 2010 00:05:11
RE: Hodgson > oozing with confidence smelling of success after his fulham exploits. But now he looks a broken man.
The man doesn't ooz anything. lol, he came lfc like a man who thought he found golden ticket, lotto ticket that would make all his managerial dreams come true.
The funny thing is, hodgsons best quality is his ablity to do nothing and he hasnt been able to do that at liverpool. what i mean is he likes to go to a club and play the same starting 11 in the same formation and same style. Nothing changes. Here at lfc, he has turned into fantasy manager, trying out players in wrong positions, kids, changing tactics at half time. When will he get back to doing the simple things well