Liverpool Banter Archive April 01 2012

 

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01 Apr 2012 23:54:25
making points in dalglish's flaws is one thing but its disgusting how abusive people on here are being about dalglish...one of the biggest legends in football and a man who has gone through good times and the worst with liverpool some people should be ashamed of themselves.
I admit i dont know if dalglish is the right manager for us but i will never be disrespectful to the man...I think the ed's would agree with me.

KingMiz

I think most the regular posters and people who support the club would too

cozinoz

Not detracting anything from KD acheivements in football. i think you will find that beyond half of l/pool and half of glasgow dalglish was never liked whilst as a player or manager by other football supporters

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:39:18
For all those people advocating a return for Rafa, just remeber the reason why he left Valencia, and the reasons why he fell out with Parry, which were both over transfer control and input. With Liverpools current system, which consists of a director of football, Commolli, having a large say on transfer matters, is this an environment which Rafa could operate successfully in?

David

Ridiculous...rafa is the last manger who took us to CL football..mind it..KK will take anotehr 10 years to make us enter..with this team..he made spanish players conquer EPL...his vision. was, silva, villa, negrado, alonso, martinez...if he would have got 100 mill..he would buy 4 World class players from spain...and he would have won the title...

He fell out with Parry because the solicitor ruined so many opportunities to sign quality

The question is, would Rafa had made good use of those players he wanted to buy? Giving what a poor man-manager he is, he probably would have screwed up those players real bad had he actually signed them. And i hate his type of football. I don't ever want to see it again in my life.
NO to Rafa coming back for me.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:36:21
If we win the FA cup, I think Kenny should stay. Two trophies more than anyone else (for me at lest) would be a decent season.

RuncornRed

At least we lost to newcastle a team on the up.its the losses to the bottom teams that get me.lets give to the end of the season and re evaluate.jimmybosun.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:28:16
Last weekend I thought that this was the lowest we could be and the only way is up. This weekend, I am revising the thought and updating the new 'lowest'. Unfortunately, I had done that last week too. So every weekend we sink lower and lower, our hearts meet a new way of getting broken. The usual terms like disappointed, frustrated, angry feel slightly insufficient to sound of what we feel right now.

The fact of the matter is that we are closer to relegation tonight that we are to a Champions League place (4th 58, LFC 42, 18th 28). At the start of the season, a Champions League place would have been the target and I'd really like to see someone deny that. On 01.01.12, we were 6th, 2 points Arsenal who were 4th and equal on points but 4 goals behind Chelsea in 5th. In the next 12 games we lost a remarkable 16 points on Arsenal. Being so far away from Champions League, surely the season has to be termed a failure in that respect, although every target should have some buffer for failure and Carling Cup victory plus FA Cup semi (and possibly the cup itself) can be the balm. Sometime back I thought fairly beaten to a Champions League place would be less hurtful than finishing 5th and being tantalizingly close to 4th. However, the commotion that I watch every weekend hoping the Liverpool that turns up would be from before Suarez was banned, is, euphemistically speaking, depressing.

Bad performances divides the Liverpool fan-base into two sections. One who criticize the manager, the other who criticize the critics stating that we need to support the team. I am not someone who slates the manager (slightly subjective though) but as a fan, I think people have the right criticize the team/ performance/ tactics/ selections et. al. just as they are expected to praise the team when it puts in a good shift. Name calling is uncalled for though. Just to clarify, I am a Kenny supporter through and through but I have some little questions that beg to be answered:

1. What is our best formation? I don't suppose we've kept the same formation for two games in a row. That's probably also apparent in those passes that go to places where a player was expected to be but wasn't even close. We've been seeing a lot of that lately. Some (two) of our better games were when Suarez and Carroll were upfront and Gerrard behind them in what could be called a 4-1-3-2 or 4-3-1-2. Although those games were against a lower league opposition (Brighton) or an under-strength team (Everton) so it does not establish itself as a rule but if that was when we saw Liverpool play their best football why wasn't it persisted with in at least the game immediately following those two?

2. What's Stevie's role? I suppose Stevie played his best when he is entrusted with the role behind the striker. Since Stevie and Suarez are our best players, why don't we give them roles that bring out the best in them and select the rest of the 8 (apart from GK) around them? Is it that the rest of the squad is inept to fit in vacant roles (like DM, or Downing/Bellamy as RW) and thus our best players are summoned to roles that only bring out half of what they can be.

3. On that note, since most of the players are new, why can't the new signings play will in two different positions while the Stevie & Suarez are expected to excel wherever they are placed? Jordan Henderson hasn't been the best on right, so has Downing, Bellamy has struggled on right as well, Adam has struggled at most places. While Stevie is expected to play AM, DM, or slightly wide, Suarez is expected to play CF, CAM, LF and whatever else, why aren't any of the new ones doing anything of note in any of the unnatural positions?

4. Why did we buy Charlie Adam? I remember a quote from Damien Comolli when Aqua was loaned off that while he is a good player, he isn't going to get much gametime at Liverpool since 'he plays in a position for which we have a certain Steven Gerrard'. I can understand that the position being talked about is that of an AM. We also had Joe Cole who does well behind the striker although he wasn't given many opportunities there. I can also understand that Stevie is aging and for the future we might need someone young like Jordan Henderson. But Charlie Adam is about the same age as Aqua. If Aqua was at £80,000 per week, I don't suppose Charlie is less than £50,000 and we had to pay another £9 million to get Charlie. Also, I believe Raul Meireles was only asking for a pay revision since he was at an incredibly low wage. Why refuse that? Let's understand, we sell off (or loan with an option) Aqua, Joe Cole and Meireles to be replaced by Adam and with someone with promise for future because all 3 of them occupy Stevie's position but then play Adam as AM and Stevie as DM?

5. Why do we have a thin squad? Kenny recently complained that the squad was thin and tired after the loss against Wigan. That said, he has had a number of outgoing players in the past 3 windows. What's baffling are the loans. Ever since Lucas' injury, our midfield has looked shaky. While it is a credit to Lucas, it also points out the fact that we do not have enough cover. The squad is trimmed too thin with younger players not ripe enough for first team, fringe players loaned off and first team players injured.

6. Who is the striker? Dirk Kuyt is a workhorse, Craig Bellamy is more of a winger, Luis Suarez is more of a creator and Andy Carroll, well let's just say that he is out of form. Who is our striker? Again, three windows have passed and we've not addressed this issue. At the start of the 2010/11 season we did not have Torres and looked a little edge-less upfront. As a measure, we would have wanted to sign Suarez. But then Torres wanted out so we bought Carroll who wasn't fit at that time. While we needed other strikers, may be even someone like Ryan Babel or David N'gog, Ryan was sold in January and N'gog in summer. A lot of good things were said about Pacheco but he too is away on loan. Effectively since December 2010, good or bad, we sent off 4 strikers and bought 1 half-fit/out-of-form striker (since Suarez was already needed and is no one's replacement). The lack of ammunition upfront was noticed in the first half of the season but wasn't addressed in January either.

7. Big one: was Andy Carroll a panic buy? He came to LFC injured so we can't question him about his contribution last season although the strike against City at home last season was something to behold. However, almost one full season with him fit is about to finish and he has shown nothing to give us any confidence. While he is young, there is a gulf in his game from when he was a year and a half younger to what it is now. If he doesn't fit how LFC play their football, why was he bought? To partially answer some of the above questions, some of us feel that Downing, Adam and others were bought to provide for Andy. How can the entire line of attack fail so miserably? Was Andy Carroll just bought at that time because his was the only club willing to sell at that time (considering it was Deadline Day and that foreigners might have a problem with work permit etc)?

8. What's the 'plan B'? The Kenny Dalglish that we all know conquered Stamford Bridge with his sheer tactical prowess despite being without an out and out striker in February 2011. In 2011-12, teams have come to Liverpool fearing Liverpool and parking the bus. In the process they leave with a point and at times three. While the teams have changed, what hasn't is the fact that we don't seem to be having a plan B for those situations. On similar lines is what's happening these days. We've suddenly lost our rhythm and confidence and just can't seem to get out of the whirlpool. This is when a plan B is needed but where is it when we need it the most?

9. Finally, what happens to those players who haven't done well? All the new signings would never work. Sometimes more flop than succeed as 2011-12 has witnessed in the case of Liverpool. While we haven't played players like Maxi and Dirk who did well last season because there had to be room for the new signings, their omission has costed us more than we've gained. For players who have come to the club and haven't done well, are we willing to swallow our pride and sell them? What's been spent has been spent and can't be helped but at least it clears positions for new signings and lessens the amortization bills for subsequent years.

As I said I am a huge Kenny fan but I never wanted him to come back to managing the club for I feared that if it didn't work out, it wouldn't be the best last image of Kenny in active duty. While our best laid plans are falling, I still don't think Kenny should go. As a manager, if there is anyone on this planet who can arrest this free fall, it is Kenny. All he has to do now is to shrug off whatever happened (he looks extremely weighed by the recent run), swallow some of his pride (and let some flops go) and do what he does best, take Liverpool to their deserved position. Europa League next season should expose the young guns and a few changes in the first team personnel should help us go back (comfortably please) to top-4 or further.

Here's looking forward to the next weekend and hoping we turn up in the 2011 avatar.

Phew!! A bit long.
AJI

I didn't read it but i agreed anyway for such a lengthy post..fairplay
Red Dave

That was a great read with some very good points (most of them i agree with) I hope someone involved with Liverpool high up can think like yourself and indeed most supporters.... This is Liverpool fc the greatest club in England but for how much longer? These owners will have to spend yet again and I think get DC out his signings have been close to shocking!

You're not the greatest club in England.

OsgoodIsKing

Yes we are Osgood - always will be too

cozinoz

OsgoodisKing, you aren't even the best team in London! Despite spending how much?? Therefore i would keep your opinions to yourself.

ChrisE

OsgoodNoGood

I think theres a bigger more successful team just down the M62 who will disagree with you, and i think every other fan in England, Britain and the world will agree with them.

And i'm pretty sure i never mentioned anything about Chelsea being the greatest club in London?

OsgoodIsKing

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:27:11
Been watching juventus v Napoli tonight. Very impressed with juve's arturo Vidal. Great display including a brilliant goal. Have we any interest? Could be ideal winger to provide ammo for Carroll to feed off. Believe he can play defensive role as well. Fantastic site eds keep it up! YNWA

I thought he played in the center or at least that's what I saw when I watched juve play which is a while so I maybe wrong

High wages bad attitude dont think we really want him here tbh

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:21:43
I occasionally get a bit negative, make knee-jerk reactions to defeats and over-react by trying to apportion blame to individuals.
When we lost at QPR I spluttered my distaste in a diatribe of vitriolic musings.
A home-loss to Wigan had me besides myself with disgrace.
Impotence at home reminds me of my first marriage....(except I didn't have Steve Clarke to coach me!).....and the refusal to acknowledge you've signed a bunch of crap (despite the media-opportunities to hold your hands up)
Yes, my friends, I've joined the "Get Kenny Out" Brigade........................not in a nasty "Get Woy OutT" or "You Yankee b**tards" way.
I mean we might consider nudging Kenny upstairs. A sort of re-shuffle.
The loyalists on this site will call for me to be be-headed in front of the Liver Building as a heretic!...However, I withdraw my loyalty to the crown!....Whatever the consequences, I'm changing my religion!
How many times do we have to declare "Today was a disgrace....today was a lost chance.....we should have won, we should've drawn, we were robbed, f***in' refs, f***in' media, their goalie was brilliant, we hit the bar 17 times!"?
Kenny should step down........we'll take it from there!
ANFIELDPETE

Take some medication lad!

You can get back onside, when we win the Fa Cup. Were all frustrated it's allowed.
kidmillions

As long as the op does not join the disgraceful "Bring Rafa back" brigade.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:21:36
This isn't transfer rumour, but i am sick of how people are treating dalglish we have won a cup for the first time since 2006 and are in the semi finals for another. Rome was not built in a day. People are saying the performances are unacceptable but answer me this, what is there to play for? We can't get fourth we have been unlucky most of the season, if all you want is instant success be a man city or chelsea fan. We are building, Shankly was in charge for over 20 years, he built liverpool up and up and up. That is how it needs to be, Dalglish will build us up and up and up. Have patience

You're missing the point, it's not about instant success it's about watching a level of football that is acceptable. We're not stupid, we can all handle getting beat but when your team can't string two passes together or even hit the target when given the chance it's not ok. Just look at the way we defend, anyone can run back and get into position but when you don't press the ball then they will just pass it around you. We're not even getting the basics right anymore and for a professional team it's not good enough.

And the attitude of some of the players today completely disgraced the club... I swear Kenny got told off by Gerrard when he went on the pitch to sort the goalie change i mean what is happening at the club? I think Gerrard might actually be the problem today... 1st time i'v ever said to my man u supporting mate Gerrard played real bad today with no excuses he was just dreadfull

The players have lost faith in dalglish, n thats completely understandable. Worst manager in the epl.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:14:10
I thought today Carrol was much more like the player we bought from Newcastle, daft dive apart of course. Shelvey looks like an LFC player, I'd like to see him get more starts.
Suarez has moments of pur genius but I wish he'd focus on himself more than what opponents and referees are doing and just get on with the game.
The reason we have poor results and the odd good one is because our players are inconsistent and I do believe tinkering with the team every single game is one of the main reasons for that (for the "bring back Rafa" brigade remember he was just as bad with changing players all the time).
I feel that some ego's simply won't put the effort in unless they feel it's a big game (top 4, derby or cup match) and again the CC final showed the arrogance of some of our so called big money big time charlie's.
Too many players feel assured that, when fit, they are guarenteed their shirt and hence the complacency against teams we/they are expecting to beat.
Shake up needed and today showed the first real dissent from players towards KK, I'd suggest to keep his job he needs to show some players who is in charge and drop them.
I'd tell them all they are playing for their place against Everton and only those who perform against Villa will play in the semi-final then drop Gerrard, Carrol, Enrique and Skrtel to the bench v Villa. I'd then give 3 out of those 4 half an hour against Villa and see how they respond (realistically Skrtel will have to play against Everton anyway).
We will lose that semi-final unless the riot act is read to them and even then some of them don't care and might just be happy to sulk to get the manager sacked anyway.
Sad state of affairs but Carrol's performance today sums up too many in our squad as that's the first time I've really seen him show 30 minutes play with the kind of passion he had in a black and white shirt. I've seen Johnson, Henderson, Downing, Reina, Gerrard, Carrol all have days were they looked disinterested and that cannot be tolerated.
Modern players have too much power and too much money, sometimes professional pride goes out the window because they are premier league, well that's why they are not champions league standard, sort them out or ship them out KK, if you don't they'll get you the sack..............ask AVB how he feels watching Chelsea play compared to how they played for him........egos, egos, egos, it's the same for us now.
Good Luck KK, you'll need it with some of these players.
ALB.

Shelvey's s**t, who else other than Blackpool would he get a game with?

He lacks pace, vision, guile, the only thing he has on his side is his age and his physicality. He stands no comparison to the Liverpool midfielders of old, and is representative of our sad decline.
I hope I am proved wrong, but I think he's got Fulham squad player written all over him.

David

David, he's 20 and has bags of talent, at times he reminds me of Gerrard early in his development driving from midfield with; pace power and determination

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:10:31
Bring Rafa back, support him financially and he'll bring success back to Liverpool, guaranteed. Look at the spanish league, it has the best players and there is nobody better to tap into and attract players from the spanish league.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:02:54
Not a wind up. And I know a lot of ppl will think I'm stupid, BUT... How about Roberto Martinez? He started the Swansea revolution, he's kept Wigan up with virtually no money and half his better players are constantly linked with moves to the 'big 6' given a chance, he'll implement some bloody good passing play, and he's obviously got an eye for talent. Look at Moses, you've got to be daft to not see how that lads starting to use his potential

 

 

01 Apr 2012 23:18:54
Hi eds i know that he might not be a popular choice but how about Jose Mourinho as our next manager i love Kenny grew up watching him but we cant live on sentiment alone and maybe he should be moved upstairs NOT sacked and if we have any ambition to win the league i think he is the only man forget about negative football he's a winner all his teams win he has won the league with every club he has managed and the champions league with 2 of them people say he would need a blank cheque but i'm not so sure at porto he won the champions league with players that most of us never heard of before fair enough he has spent millions since that but main quality is getting players to play week in week out and we are just not doing that at the minute our squad is not far away in my opinion and with some quality additions and a manager getting the best out of what we have i think we could do great thing next season and with Mourinho as our manager he would attract top players despite not having CL football the question is would he come and do FSG have the ambition to go all out and get him and then support him because i really do believe if he came we would win the league with in 3yrs 100% your thought please thanx.

Scouse Born Irish Red {Ed003's Note - Cant see it }

I agree - we could get him for 3 years for around £35 million - now where .....?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:58:59
I have been reading this site for months and cannot believe some of the comments put on here , ITS SIMPLE , Liverpool Football Club this season in the PL are not good enough , they have no desire ,no courage and no heart to fight for the one thing we Liverpool fans want , TO BE CHAMPIONS AGAIN.
It doesant matter how good a player you are , if you dont have all the above attributes , please dont wear our shirt, because most of our current crop of players dont deserve to play in the red shirt in front of the best supporters in the world.

50 Years a red

YNWA.

Top post,ild love Ed to forward to LFC,and it to be shoved on wall in dressing room!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:57:14
Kenny must go bring back rafa now we have owners that back the manager

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:50:56
hey ed's.......do you think the board will wait till the end of the season to assess the managers situation or do you think they may be tempted to let kk go to try and save what's left of the season ie fa cup. Alot of people say they will have a hard job in sacking kk but at the end of the day these men are successful business men so they must have a ruthless streak as well {Ed002's Note - Please see earlier answers.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:50:49
Ed, Who would you like to see in Goals Vs. Everton? Jones or Doni?

Fans, who would you'd like to see? {Ed002's Note - It'll be Doni.}

Given a choice between them two...i'd have to go for Enrique. (He couldn't be more of a liability than he has been at left back recently)

David

David, lets be realistic it will be suarez. how could you forget that save on the line against gyan in the world cup quater final.
Shanio1

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:48:14
FSG Want to win??
Just go and get Mourinho!!
Give him full control, stack of cash, title in Three Years.

So youre prepared to give Maureen 3 years full control and a stack of cash and yet you want Kenny out bearing in mind he hasn't got full control, nor has he had the cash that Maureen is used to getting and yet with a team that has still to gel properly and has been plagued by injuries and suspensions to some of our strongest most influential players we have won 1 trophy and are in a fantastic position to lift 2 more?? - it's wrist exercisers like you who don't have the guts to sign your not even half baked ideas for a bit of positive banter - i can't believe there are so many out there that having realised 6 weeks ago we were going to struggle for top 4 and that we have already qualified to play in Europe next season you are only now calling for the head of quite possibly the 3rd most successful manager we have ever had.
Go and do some wrist exercises and try not to impregnate any women along the way, the potential for another person born into this world and to be blessed with some of your defective genes does not bode well for the future of mankind.

YNWA
ash240970

p.s. eds is there any chance these pages can be made members only so we have to log in and our username is shown by our posts? - it may discourage some of the people on day release from posting idiotic, thoughtless garbage. {Ed002's Note - It comes up now and agains as a suggestion but the powers that be do not really want to move in that direction just now.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:48:06
It's no surprise at the lack of goals. Look at what we bought, and what we bought them for.

Adam - Support to assist
Downing - Support to assist
Henderson - Support to assist
Enrique - (finally a left-back but still;) Support to assist.

Adam & Downing especially were bought to get the balls to Carroll, who is spending most his time on the bench.

Great tactics, buy to support someone in particular, then exile the someone in particular.

~ DownUpMoose

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:38:53
I have to agree with kenny, every team needs a little bit of luck to win games! But I was dragged up to beleive that in life we create our luck! All of the players need a goals target next year and a massive kick up the arse! If they want a bit of luck, they need to go out there and make it themselves!

Danski

Luck is preparation meeting opportunity!

kd has had his opportunity

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:37:43
As a north east based liverpool fan I was at the match among the toon faithful. It was horrible. Has to be the worst performance for a while. Where is the pride and passion? We are crying out for someone like harem ben arfa and have been for years. He put the fear of god into Enrique today. Hba has pace and ability to create something out of nothing. Don't think we've had that since the days of shaggy. Got to feel sorry for Carroll. He hasn't a chance the way we play. Ne width or crosses which he thrived on at the toon. Give sterling a chance for the rest of the season. The league is over now. Give some kids a chance and get rid of the deadwood in the summer. Fearing the semi against everton.morale seems rock bottom and can't see where our next win is coming from. Kenny needs to sort it and fast. Team for sat subject to fitness:- Doni, Kelly, skrtel, agger, Johnson, sterling, gerrard, aurellio, downing, Carroll, suarez. Hope the board see sense and also get rid of comolli. His record stank at spurs. Even worse now! This is only a blip. We'll be bounce back. YNWA {Ed001's Note - how could Ben Arfa put fear into Enrique when he was nowhere near him at any point in the game? That was half our problem, Enrique was MIA!}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:33:57
Oh my god if i hear another person suggest avb am gona kill myself! Are you people so thick or what?!?!?!?!

Peter

If you think he's a bad manager whilst calling us thick I feel sorry for you !

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:33:54
Here's another stat guys

Adam downing caroll and henderson have all scored 6 goals....

No wonder why wqe are so crap!
It will only get worse

No one is playing well, why blame the new players all the time? Think about it.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:32:15
Will you please stop with this it's the "liverpool way" it's doing my f**king head in.....it's NOW 2012 not 1982 and we need to move forward!

A new Manager with new and fresh ideas! Someone who is not affaid to drop Gerrard and Carra. Once this happens then only then can we move forward!

I'm sorry it does your head in. Perhaps the club should change the way it goes about things, to please you. The Liverpool way isn't against moving forward.
Rigsby.

I don't really know what the "Liverpool way" is to be honest. Whatever it is, it isn't working.

'The liverpool way' died many years ago. Most of the blind fans have not even realised this.
Indian Buzzer

I remember Wembley Way that was our away ground

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:31:25
I think we should all realise Kenny is a Temporary measure and he will move upstairs in the summer and the manager that will take over is none other than Jose Mourinho and I don't think many will moan if that actually happen. Jose has said many times he has a keen liking of our beloved club,and lets be honest he loves a glory mission and what bigger glory mission is Liverpool's rise from obscurity back to the levels we expect! We should say THANK YOU Kenny and we want Jose!

Mourinho's going to city.

David

You will not get Mourinho. He will come back to us or go to Citeh where he can win their first league title in however many years, and maybe the Champs League. Then he will leave after 3 seasons or so, by which time he will be a legend at another club. At Chels he's a legend, Inter = Legend, win title with Real overthrowing best football team ever (Barca) = Legend, win first title with Citeh = Legend. Oh and Porto achievements = Legend. He won't go to you i'm afraid.

OsgoodIsKing

That's fine. We need a manager who is going to build something - someone like a Brendan Rogers. Mourinho and LFC are not a fit.

You DREAMERS. Maurinho is staying put at Madrid.

Rodgers is not tried and tested at top level

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:29:36
kenny is the king but it is time for him to say fair enough i had a go and step down. time for rafa to come back and finish what he started.

Rafa won CL with Houllier's team

Rafa won CL with Houllier's team

That's more than Houllier did then.

Rafa may well have won the CL with Houllier's team BUT, answer me this, would Houllier have won the CL with his own tem? Me thinks not.

Red Oz

Its 7 years ago and history, who cares anyway.
What is more important is 'RIGHT NOW!'.

Alonso and Garcia were stars of that tournement. Were they Houlliers signings? I think not.

BthekingB

Yeah houliers team.... where luis garcia scored a crucial goal in the quarters against juventus. garcia again in the semis against chelsea. and xabi alonso with a penalty in the finals.

redkenyan

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:28:51
Hi eds just want your personal opinions as to why you think we have imploded like we have? Really can't get my head around it.

Thanks in,anticipation

Neilp {Ed001's Note - confidence mainly.}

Confidence my apse , lack of quality and leadership more likely . 60 k + p/week and no confidence ? Bless .

I think it started after/because of the Arsenal game. Not having a RB and Agger getting injured, didn't help either.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Well isn`t Kenny supposed to be the mans man, making the players feel invincible, confidence to take the world on........cleary that is working

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:23:11
Suarez, Gerard and now Carroll - LFC diving like Barca these days. Shameful behaviour by Carroll today.

There were 2 instances on MOTD2 where the divers got away with it and penalties were scored!
DM2012

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:21:11
I honestly two give two monkeys chuffs what all yous think but i, given some decent financial backing would have rafa back in a heatbeat for sure no
jaydee.ynwa

And again, in English, please.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:15:41
{Ed022's note - brand new player profile on Cristian Tello of Barcelona, he's also my Player of the Month for March after several impressive performances. Let me know what you all think over on the site. www.player-profiles.co.uk - thanks all.}

The way things are going Ed022 mate. You might want to create a manager profile. lol

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

 

 

01 Apr 2012 22:09:23
First time I am saying this, but I think Kenny's time in Liverpool will be up at the end of the season. Still got to have respect for all he has done for the club. I think it would be detrimental to get rid of him now, going into a semi-final with a new manager who does not know players would be ridiculous. In terms of replacements far too difficult to say at this stage.

Unfortunately, I am yet to see any glimmer of Carroll hitting form. I was hopeful with his age but is just not replicating the flair he had at Newcastle, possibly a combination of lack of ability and players around him.

Henderson again has age on his side but has shown no signs of hitting any kind of form expected at a club such as Liverpool.

I think a serious overhaul of both staff and players is required in summer. After a last summer with such a big spend will FSG give any kind of money to Kenny, or any manager. Who am I to speculate?

Difficult times for LFC but support the club and players! YNWA JFT96

-Al-

The sad thing is I think most of these players, Adam aside, were Commolli recomendations. Carroll definately was, Kenny said as much in his autobiography, and Commolli agreed on the price! So even if Kenny did leave, it mightn't get much better.

David

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:50:59
In response to a post yesterday, regarding a 80K or 90K stadium.
Let's be honest, we would never come close to filling it.

Are you kidding

Your right - Championship crowds are always small compared to the PL. No point building it and then having it half empty by 2013/2014. Should ground share at Goodison.

Everton/liverpool ground share makes sense to me. Lazio do it {Ed003's Note - Great,that's all we need tonight,cheers! }

So where is the money coming from.
Its:
1 Groundshare.
2 Redevelop Anfield.

The club can not afford a massive stadium.
Reality check.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:28:57
fellow fans! Do u think that kenny has lost the respect of senior players? would the likes of carra and gerrard turn againt him or allow other players to question him?
cheers
ashy77

Of course. Gerrard and Carra are like most players - love the manager when things are peachy, and blame the manager when things aren't. It would NEVER be the players' fault afterall.

LIVERPRES

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:44:16
I have been a red over 30 years. Kenny supported us during the dark days of Heysel and Hillsborough. He always gave 100% in the red shirt. We should be criticising the players who don't share our passion and are poor every week.
We have one trophy this year and maybe another one to come. In Kenny I trust.
By the way Kenny doesn't buy the players Commoli does. Sack him!

Completely agree with keeping Kenny but sorry to burst your bubble but Kenny has the final say [excluding owners] on who he buys.

BthekingB

Another babbling interview by Daglsh on MOTD2 - defending Carrolls dive and refusing to condone Reinna....hilarious, beginning to remind me of Kevin Keegans meltdown on TV - at least he was in a title battle lol!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:40:04
Guys , once you accept that we are a middle of the table team , the pain eases . There must be hundreds of posters on this site who weren't born the last time we won the league .

Even the unborn won't see LFC win a title in their lifetimes!

Middle of the table teams don't spend over £100 million on players....

I'm one of those fans so I probably don't understand how good and the feeling of the club when kenny had his playing days and first spell but this season I must say I'm starting to become unimpressed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:35:59
Things are really messed up at the minute. Clubs have bad patches, but losing 6 in 7? Liverpool have lost their way and it pains me as a fan to watch this type of football. The lack of creativity in our starting line up, let alone our squad is horrific. Suso? Is he the answer? Maybe in the long run, but we are supposed to be a top club, we just about beat Cardiff in the carling cup. That's horrendous. Enough of this English talent, Kenny had the chance to build something and he bought mediocre players. Enrique and Suarez, the only two NEW players since "KK" had been there who have performed to a champions league standard. The £35 million on Carroll, £20 million on Henderson & £20 million on Downing were big mistakes! We missed out on players like Mata & Aguero. This has turned out into a rant, but the team needs a kick up the arse and should start playing for the badge and what Liverpool means! What do you think eds?

@_sms92

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:43:23
My choice for next manager of the lfc franchise would be Bob Bradley. American soccer coach and the current manager of the Egypt national football team. previously coached in the American college game and later in Major League Soccer as well as USA national team.

With him, I would transfer in Michael Bradley a soccer player with Chievo. I hear he can play number of positions. Bob Bradley would help the brand on international stage and more Americans would identify with the team. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool is not a franchise.}

These Evertonians-who never fill there own ground and would kill for our international fanbase- try to think of themselves as a proper local club, as it's the only thing they can attach themselves to and identify with in the face of such a lack of success, that will probably and hopefully last for generations. The same numbnut wrote into the Echo recently calling Liverpool a franchise, fact is the support in the city for Liverpool outnumbers Everton by a ratio of 3:1, hence the empty seats at Goodison every week.

Pity them. They are a joke (United feeder club, United reserve player retirement home).

David

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:31:56
Transfers Out- Newcastle last two seasons
Sanchez Jose Enrique £6,300,000
Andrew Carroll £35,000,000
Totals: £41,300,000
__________________________________________
Papiss Demba Cisse £10,000,000
Demba Ba Free
Gabriel Obertan £3,000,000
James Perch £1,000,000
Ismael Tioté £3,500,000
Yohan Cabaye £5,000,000
Hatem Ben Arfa £5,750,000
Davide Santon £5,300,000
Totals: £33'650'000
Mehdi Abeid Free
Sylvain Marveaux Free
Robert Elliot £100,000
Dan Gosling Free
Sol Campbell Free
________________________________________

I don't mean to be funny, but we seem to funding smaller clubs so they can beat us. This strategy to purchase from premiership seems to have strengthened our competition. They seem to have purchased 12 medium priced players and got 3 world class players out of them and a few functional players.

We did the same thing at Sunderland, we helped fund their rebuilding program and Steve Bruce went out and got allot potential in. Maybe Steve Bruce should be our Director of Football. Seems to know his way around a bargain or two.

We created the monster called Newcastle. So we can't be surprised when they beat us. Mike Ashely would of never of financed them in the transfer market unless some person paid £35million for one player.

Well we should be grateful to Chelsea then

You forgot an extra 4 mil we got for Nolan.

Man City, Tottenham, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal. - Champions league Squads
_________________________________
If you look from 6 to 9. Newcastle, Sunderland, Everton, Liverpool.

We managed to fund our competition. Making it harder for us to get 5th spot. We would of had a easier time of it this season, if we didn't spend our money in the premeirship.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:29:33
Rafa or The chosen one or Pep Guardiola... I think only one of these three can overcome our failures

Rafa is free been here knows inside out... alot of the senior players would have to move on though from their differences...with money no doubt would win title...

The Chosen One Liverpool is probably made for someone like him although I think he would have to be bought out of his contract..alot of local lads would be moved on and african/french would be recruited to add steel to the team not so attractive but winning style..

Pep he would bring a G

Lol why PG leave Barca for a mid table PL team? Hilarious!

Do you mean the special one?

No he means Harry Potter

OsgoodIsKing

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:28:03
andy carroll is a professional footballer. april fool !

Whos the fool now didnt this finish at midday?

mighty reds

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:25:17
Liverpool played some good football.
Carragher is past his sell-by date.
Reina has lost his edge.
Shelvey looks good.
Gerrard is better playing on the right.

Liverpool played some good football for 10 minutes
Carragher is well past his sell-by date
Reina has had no protection since Carra returned
Shelvey deserves a regular start
Gerrard is better on the bench

Carragher's problem with shandy has caught up with him!
Give Coates a shot until Agger is fit. Shelvey looked good today ... Play him for the rest of the season. Is Coady injured ? I would give him a run in the team or at least on the bench.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:25:06
If they hear me I would do this revolution first Kenny out , Capello or Benitez In . Second : Maxi , Kuyt , Carroll , Cole , Aquliani , Adam , Darby , Aurelio , Bellamy , Caragher (retired). In : Higuain or Cavani , M.Suarez , Lennon , Armero , Afellay . Third : If this is so we are challenge for the title .

Why on Gods Earth would Higuain, Cavani or Lennon give up CL football to join Liverpool?I knew you lot were deluded but this is beyond laughable. Wakey, wakey, you've just lost 7 out of 8 including Wigan and QPR where you blew a 2 goal lead and you're about to finish below your local rivals who have a transfer budget of .£6.50 in luncheon vouchers! In serious decline boys, and I think some of you know it

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:19:44
its only a game......

Not if your a die hard fan! Its more than just a game!

Shankley would be turning in his grave - only a game, are you an LFC fan!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:13:51
stevie g......needs dropping (TRUTH)
carra...(finished)
spearing...( not good enough)
Enrique...(no confidence)
Reina..(drop in form)
Downing (up and down full career)
adam..(bargain bucket buy)
Henderson (played out of position)
All these accept henderson would be up for sale if i had my way...
The first two especially..(northern terry & lampard)...
Kenny,if you carn't see the team is weak,then your not the right man for liverpool fc...

Good analysis of current players.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:00:00
I've got a horrible feeling that KD will be gone and Brendan Rogers will be brought in. As a Chelsea fan i honestly hope this doesn't happen because he is exactly what you need at your club. You won't be able to attract Mourinho or managers of that calibre, so Rogers is exactly what you need. It would be a match made in heaven, a big cub for him to step up too, and a good young manager with PL experience who can build a solid CL team without an astronomical budget. Mourinho obviously seen something in him when he hired him. I honestly believe he will take over and i'm dreading it. What would be peoples thoughts on this one if he was to take over? Is he your number 1 choice or is there someone else you all would rather see?

OsgoodIsKing

Osgood - no idea who we'll look to but what about your own vacancy?

I think it all hinges on us getting a top 4 finish. If RDM can get a top 4 finish, win the FA Cup and we put up a decent showing against Barcelona if they get through against AC, then he will get the job if he believes he is ready. If not then i am praying we bring back Jose. And if not either of them then i think Capello will come. Regarding Rogers, i think its important you make a move soon because once Harry goes then its between Spurs and you i think. And i don't think there's too much between the sides.

OsgoodIsKing

If Rodgers is turning down Chelsea why would he leave one mid table club for another?

He turned down chelsea because he doesn't want to manage a team with no soul "I'll go chelsea if I want to ruin my career"

Correct me if i'm wrong but we're in a battle for Champs League place and you're in a battle for Top Half Finish. Rogers thinks Chelsea would be too big a move so soon in his career, whereas you would not be.

Last few seasons:
Chelsea Managers - Scolari, Ancelotti, AVB, Jose
Liverpool Managers - Woy, KD, Benitez

Thats the difference. We are a more glamourous prospect than you now and you have to accept that.

So as i said before, you should go for Rogers. And a club with no soul? The same club who i pointed out to you before supported Nando through thick and thin whilst you turned your back on Carroll. Give it a rest. Get rid of KD and bring in Rogers, he will be your saviour and the long term manager you crave. If you don't then please stop dreaming of getting Jose, he would never go to you.

OsgoodIsKing

I think Brendan Rogers might be perfect for us.

We desperately need a young manager, who will be here for a few years. No more former players or former managers, please. It shows a complete lack of ambition or courage.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:58:22
Let's face it we are a joke not only have our recent results been a joke,but the home record has been awful too many draws and now too many defeats.If your home firm is top class then you can take defeats like today but we haven't got enough home points.Also i am no great fan of Jordan Henderson but dalglish insists on playing him right midfield and if he is anything he is a central midfielder.We are in trouble does anyone think we need someone like Mourinho.

Maybe he plays him there because henderson also gives the ball away in the middle

So why did he buy him you nugget ?

He was bought with the idea that he would replace gerrard in the long term obviously you even bigger nugget watch him for Sunderland and you will see.At the moment though it's not happening for him.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:55:30
J. Reina
G. Johnson
J. Carragher
M. Škrtel
M. Kelly
Lucas
J. Spearing
Maxi. Rodríguez
Raul Meireles
D. Kuyt
L. Suarez

This was our team last year. When we where winning games by 5 goals. Glen Johnson was playing on the left and cutting in. Maxi was enjoying seeking in to positions to score from left.

Kelly was good on right, and Raul Meireles managed to turn up and score goals. Without have Andy Carrol in the team the players where forced to pass it the liverpool way. Popping the ball left to right and looking for the opening.

Kuyt offered work rate and Carragher offered leadership. Maybe the biggest problem is in the middle of the pitch, both Lucas and Spearing where hard tacklers. Covered alot of ground on the pitch.

Changes:

LBK: Enrique v G Johnson = I found Glen Johnson liked to cut in from the left, seemed to work very well. Enrique is capable, but nothing special moving forward and every attack comes from your fullback.

DM Lucas injury has been major lose

Raul Meireles been a big lose in the team. Just seem to be the glue that put all the parts together.

Kuyt vs Andy Carrol: The team seem to have need to punt the ball to Carrol. Long balls and hopeless play. When ever he is in the team, the play changes. We stop passing and start with the long balls.

Now Liverpool should be a passing team. All the best teams like to play the ball and we should do the same, but with Andy Carrol in the team, it seems to be easier option to long ball to him. This unconscious tactic seem to work in away games, but not at game. I really don't think it helps us play football.

We could have Messi and Ronaldo upfront , until we learn not stop a potential attack by passing the ball back after we cross the halfway line then all the above is just wishful thinking .

Honeymoon period have you ever heard of it? That's all it was nothing else.

J

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:07:11
ed have ye considered starting a live score update as part of the site and just post the scores as they happen . it would be alot better than waiting for flash to load up on the phone. just an idea :-) {Ed001's Note - we did have a live score update in the past, maybe we should sort out a new one.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:00:06
On raffa {Ed001's Note - because all he wants is more money to spend on players getting paid far too much. All the while playing petty political games to try and gather more power to himself. He is not the answer.}

Ok eds, who in your opinion is the answer? {Ed001's Note - I don't know, someone who just coaches the side to play football in the right way. Bielsa is probably out of reach, so maybe Michael Laudrup. I know people are hot for Brendan Rodgers, but he only took over a team already playing that way, so I am not sure he is the answer.}

Would like to see Laudrup actually be a refreshing change and a unique appointment by FSG.

However I would still like to see AVB given the job with enough time to build his own team I think we could be very successful, do you have an opinions On Villas-Boas ed001? {Ed001's Note - not convinced, too many strong personalities at the club that need to be removed, not sure he is the man to remove them.}

Ed001, you have mentioned Michael Laudrup a couple of times, and I for one would be really keen to see what he can do. Is it just your own desire, or is there some suggestion that there is interest from Liverpool? {Ed001's Note - there has been interest in the past from him, he is a Liverpool fan and the club did consider him as a replacement for Roy when they were looking around. Whether his name would still be in the frame or not now, I really don't know. I just like the way he sets his teams out to play.}

What particular strong personalities are you referring to ed001?

S.G.L. {Ed001's Note - Gerrard and Carragher in particular.}

Ed001 you are a lost cause mate...Michael Laudrup? Unproven in the top european leagues and no experience in the PL...are u for real?

And of course Benitez wants total control over team affairs, what top manager doesnt? The poor man had to deal with people sticking their noses in when it came to transfers and squad matters so of course he's gonna be unhappy and fight for control.

Michael Laudrup is not the answer. We need someone proven that knows the city and knows the club and can attract the best players i.e mashcerano, alonso, reina, torres, agger...his name is Benitez, it is a no brainer.

If you ask Ferguson, Redknapp or Wenger which manager they'd fear most at our club they would say Benitez. Support the guy in the transfer market and get rid of commoli and we will fly trust me.

Benitez will not be scared to come in and get rid of the big personalities and he will not tolerate the level of play we've seen recently.

If we gave Benitez 100 million we would be sitting comfortably in the top 4 this season. Its a no brainer it really is. We cannot afford to take risks with unproven managers like Laudrup. We need to get back to winning ways and fast and Benitez with money and control will ensure this.

Like I have said many times its Benitez or Mourinho...anybody else is a risk.

Kenny Dalgish is so bad I cant articulate enough how inept a manager this guy is...I said this when he was appointed, he is a walking disaster. He's clueless, totally and utterly clueless and completely out of his depth. He failed or quit at all his previous clubs and I just cannot understand why he was given the job in the first place, it made no sense. Its like me failing to run several small business and then being given the job to run microsoft...its insane beyond comprehension. His overall managerial record is average at best and thats being kind.

The man is always full of excuses too and this has been common throughout his managerial career...there's always an excuse for everything. He needs to man up.

I just hope and pray we lose to Everton in the FA Cup because it will almost guarantee he will not be manager next season. My biggest fear is that we win the fa cup and give him another year...we will be in DIRE trouble if this man is our manager next season, DIRE.

Leo {Ed001's Note - you really are a complete tit, wanting us to lose? Pathetic.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:09:30
Liverpool by tradition have quick, ball playing strikers. Currently they have Andy Carroll. Mancini has said Balotelli is for sale with the club itself saying they will listen to offers. Welcome to Anfield Mario

Why would he move to a poor mid table club for?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:07:57
Maybe the way to look at things at the moment, is to ask ourselves the question, how many of our first team players would get into the man u, man c arsenal, spurs and chelsea teams? I would say, Gerrard and Suarez when they are on form. Apart from that, no other player. I would have included Reina in the first half of the season, but his form has gone down hill.

Suarez or Gerard wouldn't make it into the MUFC squad

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:06:23
The season was over for us weeks ago but the least we want from the team is a bit of passion for the shirt but most of the players don't look interested in the slightest.
I personally want some of the young lads in the team now just to show a bit of enthusiasm and I know there not ready for the first team permanently but it must be obvious to Kenny that the fans aren't happy so play some of these young lads till the end of the season we have nothing to lose and more to the point neither does Kenny now

Mat lfc

I agree Mat. I can't think of one player who had a decent game against Newcastle. Time to play some youth. I am also glad to see Reina out for a few weeks - he is a one-man circus at the moment.

LIVERPRES

 

 

01 Apr 2012 21:05:24
To all who lambast any doubters of KD , May I remind you we support LFC , not KDFC . His management skills and his backroom staff are totally inept and have been found wanting on far too many occasions to consider this post a "KNEE JERK" reaction . As I posted a while back , those who blindly follow are nothing more than Lemmings !

Signed Post

Mark C

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:19:52
Rumours have it that we have no money ATALL for summer except sellings.
Don't know if it's true hope it's not! Let get the players we need! YNWA

If it's true then we are in the poo and for a long time - because what we want to sell isn't worth much -

Your 'rumours' are false. If you don't even know whether they're true or not, then why even post?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:53:11
I think the biggest mistake KK has made was not to strengthen in Jan - we clearly needed another striker and a replacement for Lucas.
Unfortunately, Kenny chose to show faith in the players he'd got - and these players have not repaid that faith, and are letting him down badly.
But, we can't keep changing our manager every 6 months - at some point we have to look at the only constant of 3 years of under-achieving. The players..

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:46:40
For few fan Kenny is bigger then Liverpool . if anyone not support Kenny they can't be Liverpool supporter ?

rock.

Dead right...!!! they are brain washed.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:45:02

Alan Pardew the next man for us .

Why would he leave Newcastle who are pushing for Champions League to join LFC who are closer to the relega tion places than the CL places

He just has better players, plain and simple what did he do when he was getting sacked in league 1 etc

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:29:32
The truth be told, I think the LFC players 'gave up' on the EPL a long time ago, its as though the just don't care anymore.
The team has a very soft mental composition, they are not 'tough and resiliant' and performances of late are proof of this.
w

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:27:38
Hi I think that if it was any other manager rather than kenny they would have been out. I have nothing but respect for him but I can't see my side play like this. I think Benitez should come back. He always bought well with little money in compared to kenny. Henderson=20mil Torres=20mil

Not dissagreeing with your entire post but Henderson was 16mill and Torres was 26mill.

Woy didn't get your support. He was out in half a season.

Jus Glad Woy didnt get a full season

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:26:14
Hello All

6 defeats out of 7...how come no one is calling for Daglish to go. If it was roy hodgson he'd be gone already.

The only way he will save his skin I think is to win the FA Cup.

His signings have been terrible...apart from maybe enrique and he was roasted today at times.

What do the masses think?

Red Andy Ireland

I think...that you didnt scroll down before posting, lol

He has failed on an epic level! HE HAS TO BE SACKED!

TIME TO GO....

We beat Everton, look on the bright side

Thats a big 1-0

Stick with him, its the liverpool way.

The fans are the biggest problem.

We only beat Everton as Moyes rested half their team, and results since that game for both teams goes to prove that.

J

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:19:57
If this was any other person then they wud be sacked. I dont doubt wat KK has done for the club in the past and recent future but his overal record as a manager is poor. He is not to blame in the clamour to get rid of woy the easy but wrong choice was made due to fan pressure who must now take some of the blame..then there are the players over priced but based on todays performance a lack of passion stevie g was no captain today,carra is past his sell by date, pepe lost his rag awful awful..pls kenny for the good.of the club step down

I wonder if your this ruthless at work. Are you like Alan Sugar on a war path. you're fired.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:34:22
Right, after watching today's game I'm obviously not happy like the rest of you but I personally don't think some people understand the rebuilding job kenny had to do. Yes, we aren't good enough to finish top 4 yet, but with a couple of signings (3 in my book) then I really do believe we will be right up there.

At times some of the passing football I have seen this season has been fantastic but that killer instinct isnt there. And from watching how bad we were last season it has made a refreshing change.

I think the worst thing that happened last year was the great run of performances we had, as I believe it made people think we were better than what we were.

Our squad was awful, but now I believe it has depth and in my opinion with the losses of Kuyt, Maxi, Aqua, Cole, Aurelio and some of the oter fringe players if we can manage to bring even two top draw attacking players, well we are in a good position.

I think Kenny should be given another season, however I feel he will move upstairs amicably.

Thanks for reading

Sisco

My god what an absolute load of crap....rebuilding my arse!

Daglish's tactics are way off!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:17:24
Hi, I am a Chelsea fan.I have always had respect for your club and its history.I think KK is not to be blamed entirely for the losses ,most of the blame should be falling on the players,AS in our case with AVB.I will not talk about Caroll or Henderson.But i will say that the whole team including Steve G did not show any passion or desire to win.Of your buys ,I think Adam has the potential to succeed,KK should give him a free role whenever he plays.I also think the policy of buying mostly English players is s***,because most of them are not up to the mark.Another blatant mistake was to let both Aquilani and Joe go.I agree they did not have the best of times at Liverpool but they are proven class players and would have been great as back ups. Because when the players who were bought were not performing they would have stepped in.This would have made a big difference to your squad and the overall performances.It is just my opinion.Good luck for the rest of the matches.
roan

Cheers mate, there was only one person out there who gave a damn in the red shirt; Jonjo Shelvey. I believe he will be great in a few years time. I agree we should have kept Cole but Aquilani wanted to leave England hence why he has been loaned out twice. I'd love to have kept him but he made us pay millions for him for nothing.

BthekingB

Nice to see from your comments that fans of rival clubs get along and can be very sportmanship to one and other.

Shevley is not good enough and if we start thinking he is we have major problems.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:00:37
ed or anyone is there anywhere you can watch full game after it has finished as due to work i find it hard to watch the matches . Thanks all
ps. give kenny a chance at least another season

Lfc tv show them

 

 

01 Apr 2012 20:10:38
We should hire a coach like marcelo bielsa of atletico bilbao.

Yeah cause they just grow on trees don't they pal

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:59:52
In the summer I want no more English players (unless their and England regular and playing for a top team), kenny out no more English managers to replace him (because they tend to bring in the english s**t), a PROPER right winger (not a striker played there, not a CM played there, a natural right winger!), a proven goal scorer, and adam, henderson, carroll and downing to be sold and replaced if we receive half the amount we paid for those idiots (unlikley). Then maybe we might compete.
But being more realistic,Kenny will stay, Suarez will leave, we'll buy bent for 40m and turn our squad into englands B/C team, and become an official mid table side and have to rely on winning the FA cup/League Cup to gain access to europe. Sorry to be negative but the way we're going at the moment I wouldnt bet against it.

Redman

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:54:57
Home from the match today and I was disgusted with the lack of effort and passion. We were up in the skies and could tell Andy dived, I just don't understand why. On paper it was a good team we put out but the performance was(after the first 18 minutes) appauling. One positive was Shelvey looked composed, always wanting the ball and shown much more than Henderson and Adam have in there last few performances, so deserves a run in the team now. I really wanted Kenny to do well but it just isn't happening unfortunatly. The whole team needs to do more, and so do the coaching staff.
On another note, why put Aurellio on the bench in the place of a youngster? He hasn't got a future here and should not get anywhere near the bench again this season.
JFT96
Smithy

Did any notice when reina got sent off and kenny came on the pitch gerrard made it clear he was in charge not kenny? the whole team were arguing amonst themselves, has kenny lost the dressing room? amd why thr hell did carroll dive , maybe with riena not avail it will be a good thing he has been disinterested for weeks

Could not agree more with the original post and the first reply. Aurellio? I would not be happy if I was a youngster. Reina - haven't thought much of his ability for the past two seasons - we could all name quite a few keepers in the EPL better than him. Two season's ago most of us thought hw was the best in the league and was only missing out on being Spain's No1 because he didn't play in Spain - what has happened?

LIVERPRES

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:47:16
Supporters on these pages calling for Kenny Dalglish to be sacked need to realise what this man has done for and what he means to this great club. IF and WHEN he does hand over to another manager it will be on terms agreeable to all concerned and engineered to keep his reputation intact. Our owners know that any acrimonious split with him will alienate the supporters, and that is something they will not do. He will not be sacked but come the day there will be a gentle elevation onto the Board where he belongs and can still weave his magic at the club he loves.
Be patient and if you need to direct any anger at anyone it should be towards the players who aren't prepared to sweat blood for our great club.
Midsred

What magic can kenny weave, that's a tactic you know, I think you've been on the magic

Mate, we all know what he has done for the club, and that is why he is loved and respected as a person - and always will/should be. .

We also have to look at what he is doing to and for the club now. A judgement call has to be made as to whether we risk another year of League disappointment for another cup next year, or make a change after this season, to try and move forward. It will be hard for the players to be motivated for a league push next year if changes aren't made.

I love Kenny mate, but I also love Carra and Gerrard and dont think they should be in our starting line up. It isn't about disrespect or lack of appreciation for what they've done for the club - it is about what works for the club.

Kenny's own words are that "no person in the club is bigger than the club" or words to that effect.

LIVERPRES

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:45:46
First part of the season we had an average of about 2 points pr game. In 2012 our average has fallen to about 0,6 points pr game...! What has changed, how do we solve this? I dont really care if we end the season as nr 5 or 10, but we're soon in danger of Championship football if we keep this up...

Absolutely gutted about our league performance.. Remind me again why we didn't buy or loan in January ?
Btw, does anybody have stats ón points, goals etc with Agger vs Carra in defence?

LFCopenhagen

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:45:18
Ed - are you to zap the doom and gloomers with a laser from your super computer? {Ed002's Note - I have my Giant Laser in Full Nullify and Ravage Destroy mode at the moment. It is pointed at a semi-detached house in Wallasey with a white front door and a less than nifty gold handle at the moment. That is not you, is it?}

Ed - you may have just chosen the most common house with the most common front door, so statistically you may be correct, however, because your laser set to Nulify, pleae accept my apologies! {Ed002's Note - Sure. Man that is one cheap lamp you have by the front door. And doingy. Is that like a 20W bulb or something?}

Distant bulb wattage recognition to add to your powers of patience and saracasm when dealing with the 'everyone outers'. I'm amazed and deeply troubled at the same time.

"the ball never gets tired"

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:38:39
Carroll shouted "f**k this as he stormed off. He also told dalglish "you havent got a clue". So he obviously does not see his own failings today. He sees kennys tactics as the problem. Some may agree. But I would not be surprised to hear that he has asked to leave in the near future.

Aintree red

How do you come to know these words were said 'aintree red'? i'm intrigued!!

If I told you that I wouldn't get any more info like that in the future.
It's up to the individual to believe me or not. But I know it's true.

Aintree red

But be assured its from the inside.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:41:32
Should i stay or should i go?

If i stay there will be trouble

and if i stay it will be double.

Kk

Jessie! James!

BthekingB

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:40:08
Raving about Tiote!! He is very average would you say he was any better than Shelvey Newcastle were no great shakes. Today the game was lost upfront. Strange tactics not changing to 4-4-2 at halftime and taking Shelvey off when Gerrard was having a bad game is beyond me and Bellamy was so off the pace of the game it was untrue!
Can't believe it but close to saying Kenny needs to go. But not quite!

Lyndon

You made some very good points there , and they were so obvious , bellers off and maybe hendo on , to get a grip on midfield , if only sterling was tthere to come on in the last 10 mins ,
redforever

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:31:29
Ed I've been through the archives and seem to get the impression that you think Rafa will not get the job but I find any reasoning behind your opinion.

If you have explain your opinion previously and I have missed it, I apologise but why do you think Rafa will not get the job? {Ed001's Note - because all he wants is more money to spend on players getting paid far too much. All the while playing petty political games to try and gather more power to himself. He is not the answer.}

Ed001. I'm intrigued by you're seemingly anti Rafa attitude.

During his time in charge we won two trophies and bar his last season our points total improved year on year. Statistically he was a proven manager. Aside from the stats, the team by and large played with a tactical know-how and employed a resolution that is entirely absent from this side.

I would argue that the team was in much better shape under Rafa's guidance than now. Kenny fundamentally lacks, in my opinion the ability to tactically organise his side. All too often this has been plain to see.

Who would you choose between the two to manage liverpoil? {Ed001's Note - would that be the Rafa who constantly asks for more and more money and the Kenny that manages within the club's means? Rafa did great work setting up the youth academy, but he is not a coach. Maybe Rafa's politicking might mean he is better suited to being a director of football?}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:37:01
Were in the top six, Were in the top six, JOSE ENRIQUE, Were in the top six {Ed002's Note - You are missing some apostrophes.}

Well said ed2. While everyone around you loses their heads keep the Grammar in order!!

Lyndon {Ed002's Note - I was tempted to write "Youre" missing some apostrophes.}

'Were in the top six' Ha ha !! Besides what does top six get ya, Europa? Enrique has that already!

Sorry Ed! That's due to Lager.
I think

Lyndon

Its a dig and Jose who said Newcastle would never again be in the top 6 under the current regime. Grass aint always greener.

The difference is Liverpool are embarassed by a top six finish, whereas the Geordie illiterates are tickled pink by it. You were a championship side last year, Ipswich finished fourth not too long ago. Know your place lads and enjoy the top six. Wow the top six, is that the equivelant of Newcastle winning a cup, or league or anything. In our worst season in a long time we've still won more than you have in the last 40 years! your club is an embarassment, and a fat cockneys play thing.

David

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:35:22
I am so down that it needed twp great kenny lines to make me laugh..
Kenny-downing is better then what we thought.

Kenny-it will take hell lot of a player to improve this team.
You have to say kenny does say some funny lines..good man..

Red indian
Ps-it hurts so much its unreal..

This just proves what a fool he is when it comes to football management in the modern day, he has no clue or eye for talent what so ever. Please just go.

E.H LFC

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:20:55
After a performance like todays I think we can all forget us bringing anyone decent as no one will want to come to the Liverpool flops. we could throw millions at players and they would now rather go to newcastle. =( sad day to be a liverpool fan.

We don't need high profile players. Just a good manager. Look at cisse and ba. You wouldn't consider them high profile or world class, and I'm sure players of that ilk would come to us. We just need a man who can get the best out of good players.

Aintree

What Ever.
I'll Never be sad to be a Liverpool fan

Lyndon

Your taking too seriously. Kenny Dalglish had minimum target this season.

-Not to get Relegated
-Gain a European Place
-Finish in the top half of the table
_________________________
He managed to over achieve and won the Carling cup

+Achievement (silverware at Anfield)
________________________________
He could get FA Cup too. Great Season for us. Keep the faith

Carling Cup
FA Cup
European Place
_____________________________
5th Place Finish

= result would be European place and we already have that.
____________________________
Carling Cup
FA Cup
European Place
5 th place finish
_________________________
Champions league Place

We where hoping, but knew that Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City all have better squads. Rafa saw the problem and left. Both Tottenham and Man city have been getting stronger. In the end someone was going to get pushed out of champions league spot
__________________________
Premiership Title
Carling Cup
FA Cup
Champions league place

Its a pipe dream that may happen in 3 or 4 seasons time. It will take time and resources to gain a title win.


Really we need to look towards the management of the club. They need to invest in players. I mean invest in world class players and not worry about wages and transfer fees.

I think this seasons target was champions league...?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:20:30
I didn't see the game against Newcastle, but how did you think we performed. (remove the goals). what was the game like and where can i watch the game. is it on youtube?

Rubbish and don't bother

Do yourself a favour and dont watch the game. not a good watch in anyway or form...

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:20:00
after watching the fball played by swansea b rodgers must b worth a shot if the king goes

Lol like he would manage us

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:16:25
{Ed002's Note - I am not so sure that Benitez will be returning to Liverpool. Wait and see what happens. Maybe Super Stevie Nicol is available.}

Ed was this Tongue in cheek? What do u think steve would be like our manager? {Ed001's Note - I think he was more trying to wind me up, he knows my feelings on Nicol, great bloke, couldn't half drink, but his management style makes Houllier look like Bielsa. 10 men behind the ball, even when attacking!}

Lol thought you guys might have had some inside info.

So ed002 is a he?

has this gender issue been solved yet? {Ed002's Note - We are getting some specialists to check. I had no idea it was so complicated on your planet.}

Thought you had to be behind the ball to attack or you were offside

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:15:38
What happened today when Reina got sent off, cameras didn't show aftermath

He butted a newcastle player in the face coz of an he tripped him when running out of goal! his reaction was terrible and he deserved to go off! looks like the bitter blues may win the semi finals now! hope not! hate to admit it but there current team and form is much better and if things continue we will be living in there shadow! Garston-red {Ed001's Note - so you are Garston-red here, yet signing yourself as an Everton fan on other posts? Bit sad and pathetic that isn't it? Be honest and stop wasting our time.}

Ha how sad must you be to pretend to be a fan of another club, well done Ed 001 you made him look like an even bigger kn@b! LOL.
JFT96
Smithy

Well done ed 001 {Ed001's Note - the thing is, he could have easily come in as an Everton fan and given us some stick, they are above us after all. Why the need to lie and pretend to be a red I will never understand.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:14:00
Id happily let KING Kenny stay in charge for another season or even 2 to be honest, the bloke is a legend in my eyes and always will be

Everton Fan

And the basis of you being happy is Been above us!! LOL
Says it all twonk!
Happy for you

Lyndon

I must concur!

If Kenny does leave though I will only be happy if Raffa is brought back

United Fan

''Lynda''

Im happy because... Look at the job david moyes has done with 8m spent this season, we are a team, we play for each other, we are settled, We have a great manager and chairman... Look what your ''king'' has done with 130m this season, dont get me wrong, i love when liverpool have a bad day, but my god, its not just the everton fans who are enjoying your fine season, Its the footballing world my friend, Kenny has turned you into an absolute laughing stock, you cant deny it, great signings, great tactics, great home recored, great amount of goals scored, great support at anfield, no booing at all, kenny even looked great in his designer ''we love suarez t-shirt'', kennys interviews this season have been priceless, like a comedy sketch show, so call me a twonk all you want kid, and im glad your happy for me, i could go on for days with this but i dont wanna make you cry, see you in the semi final lynda, id say doni will have a very busy day

Everton Fan :)

I see "Lynda" I'll take it as your are six year old and a bit slow. Leave a name on your next post and get Back to me a week on Saturday.

"Lyndon"

Haha ambulance for lyndon please

Everton Fan 1
Lyndon 0... davey

Nope im not 6, im 15 actually and im a girl... and i just destroyed you in banter, so technically, you just got mocked by a 15 year old girl, and yes ill see you a week on saturday, (bill kenwright is my dads friend and were going over from dublin for it) my dad got a box for the game so ill be there with all my family, where will you watch it? you barstooler, anyways gotta go babes, school in the morning

Everton Fan

May i add david moyes net spent in 10 years is 21m. lfc net spend in 10 years have gotta be well ove 250m

LOL, Taxi for lyndon

I see!! You Destroyed me by calling me Lynda!!
Ya I now believe you are a 15 year old girl!!
Like I said get back to Me a week on Saturday!

Lyndon

I doubt Liverpool have got 250m net profit loss from players. It will be high but it can't be that high when we sell players like Torres for 26m over what we bought him as well as Xabi Alonso for around 20m for what we bought him.

BthekingB

Yes!! and Going in a "my dads got a Box"'makes you a die hard fan???
You Muppet!!

Brilliant working class Put down
Silly "GIRL?"

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:12:23
Ed, do you know why Andy Carroll was so angry at the end of the game and walked straight down the tunnel? I presume it was the Newcastle fans reaction to him but you never know. He didn't even acknowlege Dalglish. {Ed001's Note - I would hope he was angry with his own performance, he let the side down, but I think it was more the embarrassment of being dragged off in front of the Newcastle fans who were giving him so much stick.}

Thinking logically he stormed down the tunnel as he didn't want to sit and get the abuse thrown at him from 50,000 people

Only reason he would have been given abuse would have been because of his shameful dive {Ed001's Note - he was getting abuse before the game even kicked off, so you are clearly wrong.}

Typically a player storms off down the tunnel and rips his shirt off if he is very angry with the coach or some refereeing decision - not because of opposition fans.

There is trouble afoot - make no mistake.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:15:00
The league has been over for liverpool for a month now. Since we won the cup, KK in looking at the FA Cup knowing that if we reach the final and win, this season on paper a success.
We need new players but we have to sell, with possible sales making 20M to 25M and a extra from the chairman making it 50M in total. I would like to see KK there next season and bring in 2 or 3 top players, defence, midfield and striker.

Kenny bring in top players?! Your havinga laugh mate, any man who thought henderson was worth 16m, downing was worth 18m and carroll was worth 35m has absolutley NO eye for quality what so ever. He truely believed they would us compete for the league (and many fans), well I will happily say I critised those decisions and players from day one, and it looks like they have lived up to their critisms!
Kenny, bye bye.

pete

I have to say, downing looked really good before he joined us.

That's cos he was surrounded by really poor players.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:09:30
carrol and enrique leaving the mighty toon to go to better teams. wrong there like, newcastle are a much better team than liverpool, although yous are a bigger club you are not a better team. you spend stupis amounts of money on crap players and we made yous look like fools today

When was the last time you won anything mmmmmmmm?

Didn't we make you look fools at Anfield (3-1)? ...oh & we've won something this season where you haven't.

If you Newcastle fans where offered at the start of the season either:
1) Finish 6th in the league with no tropheys
2) Finish 7th or 8th in the league with the Carling Cup and at very least a semi final in the FA Cup
You know which one you would have taken, so I dont understand your point.

Never thought i would see the day when a Liverpool fan uses the carling cup in terms for gloating!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:04:59
if the team sticks to the same next game minus reina, bellamy(cant play every game) for downing we might see an improvement, but nahh. it will be carroll dropped, henderson starts, shelvey benched for the next 10 games, coates will probably get a go, maxi will probably start . if adam was avaible, he would be goin in and out. kuyt will start too. this is the reason why we'll never be consistent , except for losing. kenny is not a manager. the players dont care coz they all want a game

 

 

01 Apr 2012 19:09:17
is there anyway to get a poll on here, be interesting to see how many people think kenny should go and how many think he should stay {Ed002's Note - It is already there somewhere based on agree or not.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:58:13
At least our bench is looking stronger these days, about £60m worth of "talent" on it today...

The Jackal

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:57:25
Some people on here need to show some respect to Kenny Dalglish, I for 1 really hope he is giving another season

Man United fan, #20 on the way

I can understand what your saying, its a shame people don't show historical people the respect they earned. If this was SAF returning to man utd, no one would of given him this much time in the job.

The truth at Anfield is that the right person is manager and the wrong people are in charge of the club. If kenny was at Man City, he would of been 20points clear by now. The players just not up to the job this year. Next year they will be. players get stronger and wiser {Ed002's Note -

Ed are you lost for words too!!

Lyndon {Ed002's Note - Invisible ink actually.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:54:58
We should all get behind KK and the team atleast till the end of the season. Then if he leaves or is sacked I would like to see the Athletico Madrid manager get the job anybody watching them play would love to have that style of football at their club. Stan the man

Simeone has only been in charge for half a season, bit too inexperienced for liverpool yet.

Nevada

How much do you want to bet, he meant bilbao?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:53:44
Why don't some ppl actually look at the game?

The ref quite frankly was a disgrace. Red card for the hand on the goal line and the grappling on Carroll in the box.

Don't even get me started on the rein incident.

Blame the ref not kenny.

Realistic red

Agree to a point. But after they scored confidence had gone and it needed freshening up at half time to 4-4-2
Who ever did the fitness test on Bellamy wants shooting!

Lyndon

Ehhh, no

Blame Liverpool

He's been penciled in for the Everton game

Krul never made a save?

Don't be so narrow minded. If Carroll had stayed on his feet instead of taking the easy way out we would have been one up and could have been a much different game. Referee can't be blamed for six defeats in seven. Wake up and smell the failure

Red since 86 but we should play suso, Morgan, sterling for rest of season as we can't make cl and already in Europe

Sign off is hilarious

Regardless of the incidents Liverpool were second best after they scored. Good 15 mins but got dominated after that. Carroll is the biggest waste of money along with the rest of the summer signings barring Jose.

We started well and granted didn't create loads but 2 pens (his dive was after the first foul) would have changed the game completely. We are in bad form, we need a break and didn't get it.

Realistic red

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:47:28
I like all lfc supporters a disapointed with result and the way things are going at present.
my father put it into perspective for me,he is a lifelong chester city fan and says well i wish my team were were yours is, at this time you are the 8th best in the country and there are millions who would trade places in a heartbeat.
So for me i dont care if KK plays a mad monkey at centre forward, im a liverpool SUPORTER and proud you cut me i blead RED , liverpool was my choice fro very young and will be why god grants me the breath to live.
Iknow there are others like me, and i proud of you all.
i LOVE my club and i proud to say it and i call on all true supporters to let themsellfs be counted, as the first load of dross we need to get rid of are not players or manager but the glory hunters and fickle people masquarading as lfc fans.

martin p

p.s yeh i know i cant spell , lol : )

Delusional.....

Jman

Frankly mate you should be worried if you bleed any other colour but red.

Kenny knows some players are not performing, he probably knows he made a couple of bad signings, but he is always trying to talk the team up. unlike some of you so called fans ready to pull the team apart. They are Liverpool players who need you support more than anything, we cannot change the team untill end of season, so for the remainder of the games get behind them bite the bullet ang give them every support you have got...Bobbinred

Some may disagree with you but im with you 100%. I will love Liverpool till the day I die. Right now we aren't playing well and I hate to see us lose but it wouldn't change how I feel about my team. People can complain about it and have a knee jerk reaction to this run of form about how we are terrible and how we will get relegated but even if that happened, which it won't, it wouldn't change my love for Mighty Liverpool. We are building a team for the future and not just today or the past few games. The youngsters will hopefully get a few games for the remainder of the season and we can see what they can do. Everyone may think the world is ending but I will stand but this team through the good years and the bad. Also just want to thank the eds for their work and their patience to put up with all this ranting and complaining.

Red Rat

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:50:01
Can anyone explain why KK contnues to play JC instead of giving Coates a run in the team surely this would be the perfect opportunity to give the lad a run of games to see if he is up to the challenge. I'm not having a go at JC he is a Liverpool ledgend, but when you have a potential top class defender that needs experience, so he can hit the ground running next season doesn't make sense. I for one wouldn't play Carroll again this season the lads confidence is shot. The more he plays the worse he gets. Henderson has been the biggest dissapointment for me. I know he's young but I just don't rate the lad he is average in all departments. Adam and Downing have both been poor this season, but I think they will become good. Would I keep KK on as manager to be honest I'm on the fence. I would love KK to be the saviour of LFC I really would he deserves it he's a true ledgend.

Elmo

LFC for ever.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:49:15
One question, why pay 35 million for Carroll and not play to his strength?

Apart of Suarez and Bellamy all of Kenny's buy have a why in there .

Why pay 35 million for Carroll and not pay for Murinho?

Can you please tell me what his strengths are,I have not seen any evidence of any.

Derek

Carroll doesnt have strength of any kind, hence the contiuous picking himself off the floor from the slightest touch.

Steve

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:46:22
1st time poster, long time reader.so frustrated by the recent results. Trying to make sense of it all. At the end of last season we were playing great football, scoring loads of goals and gathering lots of points with what i consider was a worse squad. Got rid of so much deadwood in the summer which was an achievment in itself. Up to the Arsenal game we just seemed to be missing a couple of pieces from the jigsaw ie. Goal poacher. The performances in the cups were great. I dont take the arguement that we ONLY beat cardiff in final.look at the great results along the way! Its like the players have given up since the arsenal game. They are letting kk and the club down. Attitude just not good enough. But cant just keep sacking managers. Stability and patience needed. Players need to stand up and be counted. I just feel kk will get it right if given time. Last 10 games not fair reflection of what Kenny has achieved and will achieve. Its always darkest before the dawn. YNWA
CillDara Red

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:45:06
KK has to take the blame he was the one who paid huge money for average players. I dont think you will finish top 10 this season

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:43:51
On a positive note!.
Congratulations to Sami Hypia on his appointment as interim manager at Bayer Leverkusen.
Well done Sami and good luck.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:40:53
Got to say we were outplayed today. Very impressed with Newcastle. Tiote is quality we should look at him in the summer. Need to keep the faith with King Kenny.

Up until the first Goal we were well and truly the better side. Should of had a penalty. They scored confidence went.
I found no changes at halftime very strange when we obviously needed 4-4-2.
Until today I've back Kenny but strange choices today!!

Lyndon

Keep the faith Lyndon

Remember the Alamo

Got to agree , we knew at half-time that changes had to be made , and to see that it was shelvey being the one taken off , well , I was speechless ,
redforever

I'll try!!!

Lyndon

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:39:14
Today's match..
Well the drama of diving, dramatic acting, poor defending and dodgy dicision's I think I was a good game.
Never a sending off, was a penalty and carroll should of scored but confidence just isn't their up front of goal and that's the difference between mid table and top of the league.

Give Dalglish at least one more season and if that gets too much then maybe bring back Rafa.
In my opinion Gauriola and Mourinho are never going to be the next Liverpool manager.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:36:43
i cannot understand some people on this site i have been a supporter since 1964 and have never heard such rubbish about lucas being a great player.if he is going to be our savior next season then god help us
tonywebbo

If you can't see what a difference Lucas makes you do not know Football and having a Dig at him today is Totally out of order!!

Lyndon

Lucas only began to tick in half a dozen games before his injury
You cannot expect him to come back after such a long lay off and pick up where he left off
I don't buy into the argument that if Lucas was playing our league position would be different - in this day and age 38 games are not about one player
People using Lucas as an example if giving a player 3 or 4 seasons in the first team to find his form are totally deluded - do you think other clubs will wait for us until our signings have had 3 years to bed in ???
People forgot how many decent players flop at big clubs due to mental pressure

Leam Red

Lyndon, thats the most agree's you have ever had!

Cheers!!!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:32:16
Hi Eds and all,

Wish I was celebrating but not on that result!

I am in agreement that KK's tactics have been figured out, but to sack him and keep going backwards (Rafa) is debatable. Rafa is, like KK a Liverpool legend and I fear he, like KK may damage that status if he returned. The reason I say this is alot of fans have called for KK's time to be called, I am not calling them disloyal as I like them know how much he means to the club. I would not want to see that happen to Rafa too.

Basically I am saying if KK quit or whatever now, Rafa is the only available candidate with the qualities, however if he refused who else would come in at this point in the season? Anyone think its bad timing? Eds your opinion (not about new manager candidates, just my last point).

Thank you.

Bazzaa {Ed002's Note - I am not so sure that Benitez will be returning to Liverpool. Wait and see what happens. Maybe Super Stevie Nicol is available.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:31:52
It's time to go KK.

Agree (if you want kenny out)

Disagree (if you want Kenny to stay)

TheBA300

Lets have some positive comments and start supporting the mansger and club. They need us more than ever. Kenny is the only manager to win a trophy for 6 years at least have some appreciation.
mighty reds

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:33:46
this is the worst liverpool team i have ever watched. why on earth are players such as spearing, flanagan, carroll, downing, hendo, adam and others, still playing in the livepool team when they are not even good enough to wear the shirt. how on earth is replacing torres, alonso, macherano, babel and other good players with these useless players a working progress?. i had enough of people saying that they are young talent and all that carp. we need champions league football. imagine one day in the champions league (which we will never be in with these players) we face a team such as real madrid or barcelona, and we had a midfield of downing, adam, spearing and henderson. we would be destroyed so badly that it wouldn't be funny. what a joke we have become. there is no point of watching the team play against aston villa next weekend, because our season is over and its gone from bad to worst. i feel sorry for kenny but him and comoli should have never bought those useless players to the club. also kenny should never ever start spearing, adam and others who are not good enough. i apologise for a long comment, but this is a joke and there needs to be changes.

Is it really the worst Liverpool team you've ever watch!!
If so you have not supported them very long

Lyndon

No offense mate, but you don't know your history. We won the Champions league with Igor Biscan in the team!

And Traore

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:28:02
Hi eds/everyone, can anyone let me no we have lost 6 out of 7 games is this the worse run of the games we ever had?

Lfc fan from Cardiff.

I might be wrong, but i think it might be the worst since 1954.

Stu.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:25:40
Check out the Newcastle team in Jenny's first game in charge of them.
Then check out his last team before he was sacked.
We are next unless he goes now. He hasnt got a clue.
Blackburn won the league cus of shearer not dalglish
Please just go and let avb build a young exciting team
Go pepe too
And sg can't play cm and rafa knew that
Gulasci
Kelly skyrtl agger new lb
Gerrard Lucas new cm downing
Suarez new cf

Subs
New gk
Johnson coates Enrique
Sterling Shelvey hendo Adam
Carroll Bellamy

Sell
Kuyt 5m
Aqua 5m
Cole5m
Reina 10m
Maxi 2m
27m

Buy
New gk 8m
New lb 10m
New cf 25m
New cm 15m
48m

Net 21m
This would challenge and be able to cover injuries
Maybe a replacement also needed for spearing and carragher

Actually, this message has made me realise just how bad out team is currently!

Chris in Lichfield

What's the point of this. Yes, Shearer did the job for Blackburn, but KK bought it, when many were wondering who he was.

What? Nobody was wondering who he was. United had tried to buy him right before he went to blackburn.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:25:01
Personally i think we need to forget about big name signings, a league 1 player would consider carefully a move to Liverpool at the moment. No big name is going to risk his reputation until there is a proven track record (current NOT past). I also think JH would do well to forget about any stadium plans and keep the money in his pocket. Filling Anfield at present size will be a problem now. Can't see shirt sales etc adding much to the coffers either. It is a really depressing picture at the moment.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:23:46
Lotve people saying too clicky at LFc.ILd have to agree.And some appear to have far too much input

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:23:37
hey lfc fans............


my only worry...........is dalglish choosing rubbish players in the summer and maybe not listening to commoli.......

and also im worried that NO QUALITY PLAYERS will come to us because of our poor league form..........


and im sure someone will say...oh well we dont want them then...........but if thats the case................get used to being a mediocre team with a great history thats long gone.

No need to worry about that! Kenny wont be here after the season ends.

Steve

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:21:41
Usually after a result and performance like today I would be feeling very downhearted (or as the missus would say a right miserable get) Today I have tried a different approach I have pretended to be one of those overpaid players ,and do you know I feel a whole lot better,its much easier to take yet another defeat when you really could not care less.

For all those who think winning the Mickey Mouse Cup is improvement think again,we only won that on penalties and since then we have been crap.Obviously the players think they are big time having won a trophy,there is no sign of any commitment or desire and IT STINKS.

Derek

Well said mate players are a disgrace to the jersey.fact

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:20:34
kenny has got to go and i would love to see brendan rogers to take over, ed what are your thoughts on this?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:17:49
Oh dear another shocking defeat today, did the reds have a shot on goal, saying that the grass was long and very easy to fall over.
You need to get behind my friend King Kenny as I want him to stay at Anfield forever.
I see your short of a few goals maybe I could loan you a forward I have who is back in training.
I'm sure Michael could probably outscore your whole team put together.


Sir Alex x

Go away.........

I agree my old friend sir alex,give kenny a new contract and 200 mill
a.wenger

Well at least we will finish this season with one more trophy than you...

Barcelona.

Dont say that because wether you like it or not they are probably going to finish with yet another Premiership trophy.

Nevada

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:15:24
Hi there guys,

I haven't commented for a while as my source has been very quiet as of late but yesterday I did have a phone call from him so I will give you all an update on what he told me!

Supposedly the morale within the squad is at an all time low since Kenny took over! The majority of the players don't get on with Kevin Keen and his methods especially Carroll and Bellamy! Both want to leave at the end of the season!

FSG are also very unhappy about recent results and are drawing up a short list of possible replacements! Top of the list is Brendan Rogers who has previously worked with Steve Clarke!
Rafa is also still interested in coming back to club but with the possiblity of him having the England job on a temp basis so he is unlikely at this time and he would not work with Damian Comolli!

No incoming transfer details to report as it is still very early but there will be a big exodus of the bit part players!

Hope u appreciate the information guys!

PAULMONDO YNWA

Looking at your contacts past history it seems he knows less than nothing. Your previous posts seemed to be telling us that Rafa would be arriving in the summer, Bellers would never sign, but Elia would. Downing on hold because of N'Zogbia signing. Skrtl leaving, and an enquiry for Higuain. Bids for Diego, Barrios and Aguero and, if Aguero did not sign, Cavani or Lavezzi would.

You need a new contact.

I have wondered about our coaching staff for a while now. S.C spent years with jose winning titles and cups so i really did expect him to bring a bit more guile, passion and knowledge to our squad. Brendan Rodgers worked under both of them and hes got his Swansea side playing some lovely stuff and scoring goals with supposedly lesser players.
Had heard before about keen not being all that as a coach. That surely is something that needs to be addressed first.
A lot of people have called for kenny to go and for raffa to come back, but i think raffa's reign wasn't the same when he fell out with paco esterban.
Really do wish that kenny can turn it around but think the vultures are circling. {Ed001's Note - the goalkeeping coach, whose name escapes me right now, also needs to be looked at, Reina's lack of form should have been addressed by now.}

Is the GK coach not J. Achterberg?

Nevada

Well said ed pepe has been woeful this season.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:10:03
If Kenny does get sacked, Who will manage Liverpool in the last games?

RedMachine

One of the Eds

Any one us couldnt possibly do a worse job

Woy the return or maybe big Sam.

Careful what you wish for!.

Then again which of the Eds would want to take over with such players at their disposal

He won't get sacked. Much will depend on, first, whether we win the FA Cup and, second, whether we can win a decent number of our remaining games. It well be that KK is encouraged to step down with some grace over the summer. But all this depends on a quality manager to replace him. There are not too many around.

KK is still and always be a legend , he was big and clever enough to get rid of nearly all of the dead-wood , but he stuck with too many older players , who are clearly well over their sell by date , I think that Kenny will move up-stairs , and hopefully , a tough young manager like Bredon Rogers will take over .
redforever

Joanna Lumley

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:09:28
I'm bored of saying this, it's been the theme for most of the season. Ultimately we're paying for not having a finisher in the team and we missed the opportunity to get one in January. Also very suspect about Carroll's dive...maybe he didn't want to score?

And while Suarez does some amazing things at times, he adds so little value through poor passing and sloppy finishing. An effective forward would breed confidence throughout the team - if we had a better clear-cut chance conversion rate, we'd be in the top 4. People wouldn't be moaning (like I have done!) and Kenny would be safe.

It's not entirely Kenny's fault, but I still think he'll be moved to another role in the summer. I think he's lost some of the players and clearly Reina is getting frustrated, hope Doni's up for it, we need him for the semi final...he was one of the best keepers in Serie A.

On a positive note, I really liked Shelvey today, seemed to have more about him than Adam. Add a goal scorer ilo Carroll together with a right winger and the returns of Lucas, Agger and Johnson and we've got a quality team. Wait for next season, things can only get better.

Sir Masher

Forget Agger and Johnson, they will spend more time on the treatment table than the pitch. We need players that can play not the walking wounded.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:05:56
Im not going to slag off the team, individual buys or the manager.. the recent results are born out of frustration, not because we are not good enough! There have been plenty of games where we have played teams off the park but for whatever reason we are not putting the games to bed and this breeds frustration.. from kick off the players are now waiting for everything not to go their way.. the minute a free kick or corner is given against them its further proof in their minds that they wont win no matter how well they play!
From the first game of the season this has been the case, 1-1 with Sunderland.. should have wrapped it up but we were unable to.. and this followed thru in a lot of games.. then the debarcle with Suarez.. Should have been dealt with quick and easy with an apology for any offense caused tho no intention to cause it had occured.. but instead there was a them and us attitude that took hold and turned everyone against us.. opposition fans, refs decisions, commentators, journos.. we have 4 strikers that cant score, new players that seem to be in awe of Liverpool Fc instead of believing they belong there..
The future looks good, we have some good players, we have a good owner, we have great fans.. lots of excellent youngsters coming thru but we desparatly need some decent PR and someone to build confidence in the players to channel that frustration in the right direction and stop feeling sorry for ourselves and blaming everything on everyone else! Were better than that!
ItsNotRocketScience

You have stated what the problem is,but what's the answer ?

Baz

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:05:43
I think Kenny should be giving another year, but the board should refuse the purchase of any more over rated english players. 20 years ago with kenny in charge, all opposition teams played with 11 british players times ave changed.. move on! 35m spent on a foreign strikers would mean guaranteed goals.

Surely if you restrict who he can buy,you dont trust his judgement.Therefore you dont retain him.Sorry but silly post

Suarez is foreign the last time i looked but don't see the goals.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:07:30
King Kenny has lost his throne he is now the Court Jester and chaos reigns in the kingdom.

TIME TO GO.......

Pathetic response. Dalgish may well be managing poorly, but that does not mean that self respecting LFC fans should call him the court jester. Frankly, anyone that does should be ashamed of themselves. This guy has done a lot for the club, a huge lot and has suffered as part of our tragic history. Show some respect.

Too right , KK has been brillant , in all that he has done for LFC . am sure he knows that he will move up-stairs after the semi-final , or at the end of the season .
redforever

What a twonk.....pot noodle fan

 

 

01 Apr 2012 18:03:56
This summer we have to consider a top to bottom clear out.

There are players, with big names, who may now be doing more harm than good.

And there individuals on the sidelines, with big names, who may now be doing more harm than good.

We have to be ruthless if we are to have any hope of reclaiming our place in the game. Hopefully our owners are up to it.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:58:12
The Magpies' current number nine Papiss Demba Cisse has scored as many Premier League goals (five) in 420 minutes as Carroll has managed in 14 months at Anfield. I wonder how many people would sign Carroll before Cisse, or Demba Ba for that matter, if they had the choice now?

SmileyStarz

I think you'll find that Carrolls signing was viewed with skepticism by most fans even before his poor run of form.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:40:37
hi everyone and the eds, I have not been on for a week because I am so frustrated with our performances and I just like to get on with things, but to be honest today our passing was not there and our spirit was not there and we just looked lacklustre, this is not liverpool that I am used to watching.
I just hope we can all just look forward to next season because this season was overshadowed with off the pitch issues that have distracted everyone by next season all the team should have gelled together and we can all move on.
Let us not start to blame individuals that is just childish, football is a team sport. Let's concentrate on the fa cup and getting to the end of the season, and that is it. Ed001 what is your take on the current situation.
thankyou hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - most of the issue seems to be too many changes, we never seem to put out a settled side, even when we don't have injuries. It is little wonder we can't get going, too many new players not able to settle into a style of play.}

I Agree ed1. I've always backed Kenny. But today out of the Blue he played Shelvey who I bought had a good game. But sterling not even on the bench?
Bellamy straight back from injury and not upto the pace of the game. Then I'd of changed it a half time to 4-4-2. But he waits for ages

Lyndon

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:40:14
With the 35m for Carroll and the 6m for Enrique that you paid us we ended up with, Ba-free, Cisse-9m,Cabaye-4m,Santon-6m, Ben Arfa-5m,Tiote-4m, total 28m. I think your spending on Henderson-16m, Adam-9m, Downing-20m makes everything look like a panic spree. Now you trail Newcastle by 11 points and i think you must agree we looked head and shoulders above you today.

Don't entirely agree, if we has a finisher the game would have been over before half time. You ain't that good, both your goals came out of nothing and you certainly were not controlling the game. Your passing is too sloppy for Champions League - if by some miracle you qualify (you won't) you'll go out in the qualifying stage. So what will you achieve this season?

Sir Masher

Sorry, how many trophies have you won this season......sorry how many in the last 5 years.......oh 10 years.....shall I go on. Go away silly person, your having a good season, normal relegation form will return next season.

Sooty

And that's why people are laughing at Pool now cause you too arrogant for your own good .

Arrogance is an insult thrown by someone who just stolen the last sausage roll from some fella who snogged his first girlfriend 40 years ago and now thinks he's even. Well done.....Newcastle will always come undone, the only club run by post match radio phone-ins.....

Too arrogant... Well see when your decent players leave in the summer for a bit of money and we won't be buying anyone as they all turn out to be *****

Must be all those league titles that Liverpool have been winning that has made them arrogant...oh wait on just remembered the last title win was 1990

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:39:09
Here we go again, very bad results and let's do for the manager. I have supported LFC since 1977. Those that say the league was easy in the 1980s compared to now are talking rubbish. KK is trying to instill the passing play that made LFC a great team in the '80s. If you think this a dated approach, you don't understand what has made United great.

That said, KK has lost the team and has made too many changes. We hammered Everton, but the team got changed next game.

The Fenway approach is to analyse stats and we need some seriously look at what players are really performing and what players are not.

Two points to bear in mind:

1. When KK took over he did a great job making up for the mess that Roy made. He got the team passing again and enjoying play. He brought on Flannigan, Kelly and other youth and the team shone. But it was held together by Mirielles. Selling him was a huge mistake, but there was an underlying problem in whether Gerrard and Mierelles could play together.

2. Up to Christmas, we did well. True we chucked away lots of points at home, but we were not losing. If the draws at home had been wins we would have been top of the league. It started to unravel over the Christmas games and it has just gone downhill since them. Clearly the Suarez affair has hit the team:

The current problems:

1. We are just not scoring enough goals. Both Carrol and Suarez are at fault. Suarez is a good player but he misses far too many chances. We need new goalscoring talent and a real 20+ a season guarantee;

2. The mid field is a problem. Gerrard is getting on and it is not easy to see who he plays well with. Lucas' injury has been a real problem for us. Adams, Downing and Henderson were all too similar and no thought about how they woudl integrate. Downing was great against Cardiff, but the three get rotated far too much to allow them to bed down. At least one or two of these should be sold. Speaing is a back up player only. We need at least one quality central midfielder that can control play and pass. We need far more width and speed on the wings - it was always a shame that Babel did not come good.

3. Our passing is far, far too inconsistent. KK should have them going over and over this again in training and players that mess up in games should be dropped.

4. Defense - again, far too many changes are made in defence and our cover is not strong enough. Agger and Skirts work well, but Agger is too injury prone etc etc.

It is not clear if changing KK will sort the above problems, as we need to maky significant changes to the team and a lot of new players have bedding down problems. That has been the failure of this season. We were playing well at the end of last season with young talent, but changed that and the loss of Mierelles and then Lucas' injury has caused untold problems. In the summer we should not just buy for the midfield. We need worldclass buys in defence, midfield and upfront. But our key acquisition needs to be a real goalscorer. Personally, I'd rather cash in on Suarez than sell Carrol for nowt. I think that Carrol could work....

Rubbish

You say its not clear if changing KK will solve the problems when every problem you mention is down to KK. thgfest

Seems Gerrard can't play with anyone surely that isn't right he was a world class player ,even down to England and Lampard ...its nonsense he needs to suck it up

Pardoe

A few good points but miereles holding it together? He was crap.

A lot of people had there doubts about downing but you got "so you know more than kk them".

Charlie Adam had done nothing all his career until last season , was he a sensible buy?

We do need a new manager someone young , everyone keeper harping on about this project we. Well we need the manager to match.

LAVERS

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:37:34
Whole club has been set up around a certain style of play:

- pace at the back and missing Johnson and in particular Agger

- a solid midfield - Lucas has been a massive miss

- people joining Suarez from midfield - however energy/passion has gone from this area and no matter how well Carroll plays it will disrupt this flow

- pass and move again Carroll will not fit and surprisingly Adam is a bit of a miss (if Lucas was fit)

Therefore it is a worry that our buying has not backed up this approach

- either play Coates or buy another centre back (maybe Kelly - if we buy a paced right back)

- need a solid holding midfielder to back up Lucas- sorry like spearing but not a top four player

All asking for attackers and I would agree but two injuries Lucas and Agger have really cost us and who would have thought we would be so dependent on them - played better with them in team and suarez and Gerrard out

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:49:58
Forget likes or dislikes.Who in World football(granted with financial backing)is a born winner.A success at every club ge manages?!! If you want success Fenway go get him,and back him financially

I mentioned him not long ago, Mourinho hate him or love him will bring success (granted financial backing) but he would get that with are current owners. I also feel he would be able to persuade those who wouldn't usually come to us without Champions League football to join because they know under him it won't be to long before they win a trophy and are back in the Champion League and eventually title winners, which is the ultimate goal after all. Personally he is my number one choice, whether we could get him or not is another matter all together but stranger things have happened in football. With Mourinho's ego the chance of being the first Liverpool manager to win the Premier League title and return us to number one in the league could work in our favour and be used as a bargaining tool by FSG to lure him to Anfield.

LFC4LIFE

Mourinho would never leave Madrid for Liverpool, like offering him the job at Osasuna

Or Rayo Vallecano

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:49:05
Lucas Out
2years later.......
Lucas is our best player

Rafa is Crap
2 years later
Bring rafa back

Everything is crap
2 years later
Everything is crap

Support the team or do one....simple as that

Yes, things are going well. Yes some players are not performing. Yes, it is very frustrating. And yes we are entitled to have an opinion. But......and it is a big but......we are LIVERPOOL....we are a team, a club, with values based on simple principles on and off the pitch. Forget the stats, forget the if buts and maybes, just support the lads, give them wings to play, don't clip em. Luca WAS crap. And now he isn't. Did Shankly win all his games? Did Alex Ferguson win anythinh in his first five seasons? Was Wenger crap and now he's brilliant.

Grow up, have some pride....

It's some of the players that need to show pride!

y

Excellent post.

Sooty

S**te post
How can you support a team who give up and have no passion at all.
The players have let kenny down, theyre all too kushty.
We are Liverpool what does that mean ?
We are below Everton and woeful to say the least
100Million spent on DEADWOOD
Carrol,Henderson,Adam,Downing (sunday league at best)

LTP the red

"How can you support a team that shows no passion...."

You are part of the team you numpty. Ever heard of the 'trinity'. That was the point of the post. If you are a footballer, you'll understand. If you don't understand football you're just another finger pointer who wants to spend some money, stick in the microwave for 2 minutes and there you have it....sorry LTP the red(self proclaimed) but there are too many people like you who are quick to shout Sh@@te.

Thats the problem......

You don't support the players you support the team the names are just the side show it is the club who will be hurting more than anythin.g who cares about the players?
The hurting of the club is beginning to show Adidas dumped us as we were not good enough and we are now a laughing stock and to be honest it's embarrassing

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:48:53
I have heard KD say a few times in interviews that no one is bigger than the club but Im starting to doubt if he really means it because although we are on course to finish in our lowest league position in my 32 years of being an LFC fan and has clearly lost the faith of the majority of LFC supporters and it seems that now even the players are doubting him he does not seem to want to do the right thing and admit that he has failed and step down from the managers job.Our owners need to sack him now because this has become agony for us fans who only want whats best for our club and KD is only turning LFC fans who used to idolize him against him by not stepping aside.EC 05

Did Kenny make that Newcastle player get away with handball on the line, did Kenny make Cisse 5 yards offside when he received the ball to score. Did Kenny make the team play the worst passing game i have seen them play in all my 41 years of watching Liverpool. No he didn't, He put out a team that should and would have seen off Newcastle easily on any other day. We are not performing, full stop. All the players need to have a word with themselves, and get off Kenny's back.

Sooty

Is the 05 the year you were born, cause your speaking like a seven year old.
gazza 2012

How do you know the opinion of most Liverpool supporters ?
KJS

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:48:27
any chance of roy evans or , and phil tomo coming back ,,!ah those were the days

No to first,yes to 2nd

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:34:19
Hi ed after reina red card it shows he is not happy with the situation at the moment. Do u thnk he wil leave in summer. And whts abt kk the result isnt going right. Do u think he will leave. Thanx great site {Ed002's Note - Please take a look through the other answers - all of this has been addressed. Than ks for teh compliment.}

Reina doesn't make many saves !!!!!!!

No he just misses them and concedes every game

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:32:05
Are people starting to realise that Kenny is not the man for the job yet?

It's not funny at all - and those defending Kenny need to wake up. We must limit the damage here.

As stated a few weeks ago - we will finish 10th or lower - there is no hope.

Kenny has done a terrible, terrible job - and it's getting worse.

We have now entered the Hodgson zone.
Souness did better than this.

Expected the defeat 100%. Not surprised. If anyone out there is surprised - what have you been watching recently? Wake up.

Our club is a shambles. Kenny has lost the players.

Sick of spelling out whats wrong every week - just read my posts from the last few weeks if you want a detailed analysis of the incompetence of Dalglish.

Dalglish will leave - thank f*ck - as I explained before - he has no clue. NONE.
The players want him gone too - you'd need to blind not to.

As for those that think defending Kenny is 'noble' or some crap - thank God a bunch of Yanks who know very little about the game are in charge of LFC, even they know more than you lot - they may save our club, you lot would have it collapse.

Educated fans my arse! (the ones that can't see the obvious that is.)

BJH YNWA.

This is the worst run of form I can ever remember...

Probably because it is.

Totally agree 100%, all this Kenny is god crap is starting to grate my nads. I've watched a lot of football over the last 30 years or so and I've never seen anything as bad as this.

Repetition is the mother of learning, eh?
Keep repeating it and you will believe it.
Nah, I prefer a more logical approach.
We need to change things, we know that, but let's keep some perspective.
By the way, who would you appoint as manager, BJH?
Rigsby.

This is hurting KK to the core. You can see that from his face which has crumpled since the turn of the year. The Suarez affair did for him, to be honest. His position has been untenable since. But I don't blame him. He rescued us last season. It is the players that have let is down and some silly belief that Suarez should get games. He does not score enough goals and the odd jink and turn does not disguise that fact. I suspect even a ring rusty Owen would be better for us at the moment.

Some truth in what you say

I loved my last job but in the end I could'nt cope with the pressure,the owners got rid of me because I could'nt do my job properly. I had been there a long time but that does'nt matter ,when you've lost it you've lost. Sorry Kenny your time is up !!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:31:49
Ash Young cost 20% less than Downing, he is younger than Downing and he has scored four goals, seven assists in 18 games. Downing has played 29 games and has no goals or assists. I know who got the short stick there. If you include his international games Young has ten goals and thirteen assists in 28 games this season. Edz will Downing be sold this summer? I would swap him for Zaha.

The relativity of their prices is pointless as Young was first choice from what was being said in the summer but had his head turned by United. Also Young only had a year left on his contract as Downing had 2

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:30:17
A terrible display, they all need to go, they aren't sticking together, they don't deserve to wear the Liverpool shirt!

Anyways, enough about the fans...

How amusing. A fan being critical of fans who are critical.

Nevada

Its been a very emotional day fans have been filling up at petrol stations all over the uk.

 

 

01 apr 2012 17:28:25
ed,how come kd did not get booked for going on to the pitch {Ed002's Note - He would have done if he had stayed longer and will likely get a nice letter from the folks at the FA. The referee was rather busy at the time.}

How come Carroll didn't get booked for going on the pitch? Haha.
Rigsby.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:26:49
Id be happy for AVB to be Liverpool manager

I think AVB would be an excellent appointment to be honest,, him or Martin O'Neill

He couldnt break the click at chelski so no chance of doing it here.

Rather Oneill outve them 2

Clique

Martin O neill - HELL NO!

Steve

 

 

01 apr 2012 17:26:07
..i think its all over for kenny.

and it should be....major of our problems are due to a dimensionless approach by kenny . on the field. somany things come on mind if u really judge him.

1. jack of all master of nothing = all players he has brought in all different .just dont understand each other, or may be he is failing to form a team. a team which playes like team
2. constant change in formations he really doesn't know what is his best starting 11.
3. he and even players dont know what are their best positions.
4. team selection is just so poor..i mean where is downing(no he hasnt turned in to messi overnight) but still in last few weeks downig,gerrard, suarez our best players n what he does ? downing not playing gerrard so deep what the f.
5. frustration .is getting on the pitch now they behave like wenger i mean.make wrong tackles,wrong moves. get punished n then make silly talk n faces.confidence is so much down.

6. small things like ..abt hitting the woodwork like things should be sorted out in coaching .

7 tactical things like whether to play carroll or not he isn sure .one match he is there next he isnt one match gerrard plays higher next he plays deeper , same with bellamy,same with henderson central or right side? same with the formation i mean how and earth that team is gonna play as a unit ..
.carrol,suarez,downing and gerrard ..must start regularly day in day out.he is toying a talented n rather new team as if they r madrid or barca .he thinks no matter who n how n where i play any one of them they will or they should perform.

look at newcastel,swansea,sunderlend..all teams less then us but perform or try to perform to their full potential ..coz they r well organized n play simple thing that is football.

Does it hurt to much to include Everton in that small list of clubs too?

Kenny n the staff IS MAKING A MESS OF A TOP 6 TEAM.

i mean i know its not a team that would win the league but still a team which is so unorganized, dont know what is their best team? best formation? ..this team is not bad . at all

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:24:39
I'm so glad I sold my 3 villa tickets last night,buying fa cup tickets tomorrow morning and selling them together with my west brom tickets,don't think anyone will buy west brom tickets on their own and I can't blame them,wish me luck. Zaydan123

Go you big boy. We are so proud of our no.1 fan!

What an idiot. Let me ask you a question, do you stand there at Anfield and sing YNWA? Next time you do, listen closly ...
Walk on through the wind
Walk on through the rain
Though your dreams be tossed and blown

I like many others have slated the players, and Kenny at times, but I would NEVER turn my back on my team, NEVER.

Why dont you buy the tickets from me then? Zaydan123

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:23:44
Well where from here? This is very very poor! Some extremely puzzling line ups recently! He dropped Carroll when he was starting to show something (whatever that maybe), Downing similarly. No fun getting mocked in the pub by all insundry, had no come backs really. Comolli conspicuous by his abscence of late, while things aint going so well.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:23:43
We've got the best midfield in the world. We've got the best midfield in the world.we've got Jordan Hendo, little Frodo, Gerrard and Jonjo shelvey.Oh how times have changed.

Jiminy Cricket

I think that JonJo Shelvey has the making of a really good player , in fact , I believe that he will be our new Stevie G ,
redforever

02 Apr 2012 14:57:40
Lee YNWA :)

We've got the best midfield in the world...fans 'singing'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayivhplxuwM

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:23:13
eds how long will fsg stick with kd? its getting worse every game surly it would make sense to get rid now and get a new manager who would have the remainig games to get to no the team, who he wants and doesnt want but mostly get the team playing how he plays then we would be ready for the new season instead of doing it at end of season witch would mean bedding in period. also who do you think would be a good manager for us i do like rafa but the saying is never go back so i just dont no? anyone realistic choices please post {Ed002's Note - Please read answers to other posts.}

Emery - works with budget, attractive football.

Laudrup - available, young and ambitious and attacking football.

Van Basten - Good coach, attacking football, not afriad to drop big names if they dont perform.

Nevada

First choice has to be Klopp, imho. Only then look to others.

I think Klopp is an unrealistic choice. Why would the manager of the german champions playing champions league football with 80,000 fans chanting for your team really want to trade that for battling for 7th place with no champions league football? He would be crazy to leave dortmund right now.

Nevada

I didn't say Klopp would jump at the chance. I said he should be the first phone call. Big difference.

Oh, and most managers want to test themselves in EPL eventually.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:16:02
Eds . the young to downing comparsion was more about value we payed 4million more but not alot to choose between them .and they came from the same team. cheers psv

Surely you are kidding! Young has scored more goals made more goals and been injured for large parts of the season Theres no comparison between them

Pardoe

Eds . ref to surly you are kidding reply.read the full posts before answering. it was a conversation with eds about lfc scouting team.not the way they play

And these chances Young has made? Who took them was it Rooney, Wellbeck or Hernandez? Downing is creating chances for ?? bit of a difference don't you think.
kidmillions

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:17:50
Ed I posted about our forwards being more clinical and not KK's fault and you didnt publish- any reason why? {Ed002's Note - No idea - perhaps another Ed deleted it or perhaps it is published on another page. What name did you sign it with?}

PASTED FROM ANOTHER SITE...and well said by the author
This problem needs addressing... I'll make this clear now, this post is not a knee-jerk reaction, it is not heat of the moment, it is just months if not years of observation.

There is a large majority of fans at the moment who do not support our team the way they should.

I am talking mainly about the insulting of our own players and moaning at matches, and I would like to emphasis the at matches part. The reason being that after a game on the forum or to your mates you have the right to criticise the players, however not during the game.

When we played stoke the other day, I was sat between two 'fans', neither of these fans sang YNWA nor did they sing for the first 18 minutes, for 18 minutes all they did was groan at EVERY miss placed pass, they did this for 18 minutes until one of them decided to shout "****** OFF DOWNING".

Sadly this isn't even a minority of fans... I go to every game and I am constantly finding myself mad that all the people around me a moaning at mis placed passes instead of applauding the intent... seriously is it any wonder why players look short of confidence?!

People will say oh well it's besides the point were moaning for a reason, well wake up call. Thats a load of crap! Don't expect our players to be ambitious if you moan when they mess up. do it on here by all means but for god sakes whilst your at the game bite the bullet and make some noise!

"Wheres your famous atmosphere?" stop sitting down complaining about henderson adam and carroll and support the lads when your at the game, they all have bad baggage yes but whilst your at the match be a fan and stop moaning.

Will it help if you stop moaning? yes. Newcastle did it today, applauded EVERY pass and EVERY shot, look what happened... Athletic Blibao did it against man utd, look what happened they wiped the floor with them.

Those of you that think it is JUST the players and managers that are to blame are deluded. we are the ones who make anfield electric, we are the ones who make the place bounce, yet 'WE' are the ones who blame the players and overlook the fact that anfield is now about as noisy as a graveyard.

Like I said this isn't because of the defeat to newcastle, this is because newcastle fans showed today how to support their team.

Take note those of you that groan, and the next time you do remember that it is doing nobody any good at all.

True,but playing **** football week in week out is doing no one any good

Good post that mate congratulations

Pardoe

Newcastle fans like all fans have their moments , they are enjoying their team playing well and that makes fans take note and be there for the team , we are always there for the team but it is not recipocated , the present players are poor , if babel had as many chances as the current players he would have put them away. red mick tag

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:17:41
some similarities here between woy and kk,
both have or had team of disjointed individuals,
both have or had lack of goals and goal scorers,
both struggled to get higher than 7th,
both had or have lack of leadership on the pitch,
both had or have players who looked uninterested when losing,
both failed to take lfc up to the lofty heights promised,
both blamed referees and injuries,
thats where the similarities end.
woy got sacked, kk wont be.
we are 6 points worse off this season under kk but yet no decision will be made till end of season.
sorry but that isnt good enough. billy

Both not giving any tie to build there own team...maybe

 

 

01 apr 2012 17:14:08
oh dear scousers!
even everton are above you.

ywnw the pl

Yeah that's cos their players give a s**t unlike the red team in Liverpool.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:11:53
For people calling for a new manager and throwin names around as possible replacements, lets be realistic.
Jose Mourinho is NOT gonna leave Real Madrid with all their star players and infinite amount of cash to come to Liverpool.
If he comes back to the premiership it'll be to Chelsea or City.
Lets cross him off the list for one.
Martin O'Neill seems to be the front runner,, what do you guys think and who would you like to see?
DublinRed

O'Neill seems to have the ability to inspire players and find one or two bargains in the transfer market. I would be fully supportive but let's wait and see

Hans

Get Roddy Collins in! :)
anotherdub

Defo NO! threw his toys out the pram & deserted Villa when Randy Learner wouldn't give him any more cash - wheh he'd been given millions already. Poor behaviour.

I think O'Neill has limited ability/style.
Top 6 at most, but can't see us winning anything under him.
Would love to see Brendan Rogers given the chance.
Brilliant young British manager. Team plsy lovely football too. {Ed001's Note - Rodgers didn't create the style of play though, he took over a team that played it.}

Dont let O'neil anywhere near liverpool. He is the most overrated manager in football history. Spent millions at villa and couldnt even make it out the group phase in europe. Only trophies he won were at Celtic and anyone can win trophies when youre the only team in scotland capable of winning them.

Nevada

Roy Evans

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:11:51
i mentioned in july 2011 that the kenny sping would not be there now we are mid table everton above us totally unacceptable situation specially given the inflated transfer fee's payed last summer .
now it is critical because it effects the academy reserves these young guys came thinking they were coming to lfc a great club only to find they have come to a possible a villa drastic changes need to be made this summer i like kenny but sentiment is not enough for this great club a caroll should have been put into the reserves long ago like it or lump it same with Henderson the summer signings were total cack wish we could afford to send them shelve stacking at tesco's thank you all mal

Totally agree first move get rid of kd, sc and the summer signings from last year apart from enrique and bellers then lets get a new young hungry long term manager with a new vision for the club and team we cant live in the past for ever

 

 

01 apr 2012 17:09:08
andy carroll walked into the geordie dressing room after the game to collect his win bonus.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:06:11
Only Suarez and Shelvey played well today, should not have taken Shelvey off. Good to see Suarez chasing balls right up until the final whistle; shows he cares.

What is going on with Gerrard? He has been woeful of late, I am a big fan of his but it looks like he needs a kick up the back side to me.

Fell free to comment.

Vinnie LFC

Which is one of many issues we have. On current form Gerrard and carra shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. However, because he is "Gerrard" he will always get picked.

What's wrong with Gerrard ? It's called arthritis male , it's a wonder the poor guy isn't in a wheelchair by now !

Suarez did not play well at all he was as bad if not worse than carroll for large chunks

Its been a click all season . thats why were in a mess. till the clicks broken were going backwards

I agree there is something wrong behind the scenes that is not right, there is a distinct lack of confidence in the team. The thing that really annoyed me today was that the players did not seem angry even though they were losing AGAIN! Seemed like they were going through the motions.

Why oh why did KK take off shelvey , and too many players are going thru the motions till the semi-final , well I have got bad news for them , Everton now have the edge , losing pepe , losing yet another game , cant see us in the cup-final , and if we did get there , what chance would we have , sorry but today was the very last straw , we have sunk too low now , KK has lost the plot , 1st time that I have said that , but our season is not only over but , if , if we get beat by Everton , then this would be a disaster .
redforever

Suarez was at least a menace and worked hard, Carroll was dire unfortunately.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:01:51
Eds, just another quick point what the focking hell is wrong with our scouting team . we spend over the odds for maybe players but everyone else seems to buy cheap quality . for example ba free cisse look steady downing 20 million A,young 16million at least young can cross a ball,think comolli should take some of the blame. rant over. big weekend in two weeks on the 15th jft96.psv
{Ed001's Note - not sure how you figure out Young is a good buy, but there you go, he goes missing when it matters. As for Downing, he is a confidence player, the question has to be asked why he got dropped when he is finally starting to get going? Also, if players are tired, why did we not rest them and play others instead?}

Commoli made a couple of decent signings for Spurs but that is all....Bobbinred

Our scouting team sucks , when we bought Carrol , who by the way , will be a very good player in 2/3 years time , we had to change our style of play , we are so much better , when we keep the ball on the deck , remember the winning run we had , when KK took over ,
redforever

I agree with ed001 {Ed002's Note - Post of the day.}

The same thing happened to andy carrol , just when he started to play well , he gets dropped , now downing , by the way , if I was picking the team neither would play , its goals that win games , and their return is a joke , look lets admit to our mistakes in the transfer window , sell off all these players that have just not made it , buy younger players that fit a winning blueprint , and go from there .
redforever

Young is a far better, far more dangerous player than Downing has been this season. He is also younger, quicker, has ability to take players better.... he is basically a far superior player. Downing might be a confidence player but for 20 million i expect him to be feeling confident most of the time - his performances have been consistently awful, he needs to shape up badly. And his excuses of needing time to settle into a big club etc are a joke. he has played in the premier ;eague his entire life - surely one of the advantages of buying homegrown players is that they don't need time to settle in!? Completely unimpressed by a seasoned pro failing to perform time and time again.

The only time he ever looked good was in the Carling Cup against weaker teams... perhaps a standard he should play at because certainly not good enough for Liverpool.

SMc

Totally agreE SMc.
We are woeful and embarassing.
Our strikers couldnt hit a barn door

LTP the red

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:01:41
Eds: Not so long ago Macca said we were looking at signing 5 new players this summer. Do you guys think those transfer targets would remain the same if there was a change in management between now and summer, considering the extensive scouting Commolli & co have done with these players? {Ed001's Note - no idea, impossible to say without employing pure guesswork.}

Make that 6/7 players , we need another clear out , and pepe needs to go as well , he is letting far too many goals in , we have nothing to lose now , give the young lads some game time , coates shelvey should be starting every game now , and the older players need to sit on the bench , can anyone tell me why kuyt was on the pitch , when shelvey was not , poor dirk s legs have gone , his touch too , pity , he has scored some great goals for us , but he needs to go , carra , same as , sorry , but dont feel too good about the rest of the season , think its going to get even worse ,
redforever

 

 

01 Apr 2012 17:02:24
I will support the team till the end of time. But does the players even care? What a bunch of low profiles non-hearted w**kers

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:57:28
Many of you 'fans' on here are a disgrace. You'll be cheering when the team lift the FA Cup. Sort it out.

P.s Have a little respect for the manager.

DaveyBootle

So you enjoy being 8th in league with the possibility of not making the top half then plus there's no guarantees we'll win the F.A Cup anyway.

Hans

And you'll be crying when we lose to everton.
Shanio1

Everyone respects the manager. He is the greatest player in our history. But we need to make changes. Simple as that.

Oh, and all fans can all celebrate an FA cup win. We don't need your permission.

Stuff the leaguel Just focus on the FA Cup. Just want to knock the bitters out then the chavs/spuds! Singred

I have no respect for dalglish. Call me whatever u want. If the man really loved the club, he wud have stepped aside by now.
Indian Buzzer

What manager ?

Yes there has been a lot of knee-jerk reactions of late , but today was a pure disaster , from KK down to the tea-lady , terrible tactics , same aweful subs , used so badly , always too late , and pepe getting sent off , just capped the worst day of this season , so far , I will be a bag of nerves come the semi , everton will be so up for this game ,
redforever {Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure that teh tea lady does not travel to away games.}

Ha you would have to be a die-hard Liverpool fan to go to any away games , its a very long way back , we were gutted , in , the pub , I couldnt even drink another pint , and that tea-lady mite have better things to do , sorry , but we are now in a very bad place , who would not be feeling very low ,
redforever

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:56:45
We started really strongly but again failed to take our chances. Kenny needs to talk tour forwards about being clinical in front of goal.
Andy Carroll gets himself into a goal scoring position and then decides to fall over to try and get a penalty ( maybe he forgot we cant score from the spot at the moment too)
Suarez has the goal gaping and all he has to do is keep his composure and pick his spot but he gives the defender a chance to block his effort.
These incidents are not the fault of the manager- In fact I can go on about the number of times we got into good positions but instead of the wide men looking for a simple cut back to a red shirt they decide to go for the ball across the goal.
Kenny is as one of the most intelligent players to have ever graced the pitches of this land. He must be more pissed than anybody that our players are not using their brains more where it counts - in the final third.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:54:09
i donno what your all talking about kenny has done a brilliant job of creating the worst liverpool team that ive ever seen step on a pitch.

You obviously don't remember what Graham Souness did to LFC. He destroyed us

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:53:54
Afternoon eds and fellow reds . hate to say it but our season is finished , to many injuries and suspension NOW, the frige players arent good enough think we should ask kenny to move over .need more tactical manger kenny has steady the ship but cant change games .clarkey good at a top club with defenders who can play keep ball but our players are not good enough .after the last three weeks i think we are about 3, 4 years away from champs league and thats with the big five slipping up , any thoughts cheers psv

Why do people keep saying his tactics are bad? Is there something wrong with pass and move football?

If you ask me (and I'm aware that you're not) Kenny is lacking in the player motivation department and talent identification.

Nevada

You can pass and move all day but you have got to score goals !!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:52:28
just for the the people who said gerrard was shouting at kenny is a lie he was saying to kenny flanagan will go left back an i gerrard will go to right back FACT look at it again if you dont belive me ye gang of muppets
my name Joel

So Gerrard was making the tactical decision
Bean

No gerrard wasnt making a tactical decision he was simply saying to kenny who had come on the pitch to tell him he knows already what the king was going to say my name Joel

Dalgleish was giving orders to Gerrard. who then passed them on...Bobbinred

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:51:57
the people who wanted gerrard or carra as manager . well with kd being told to get off the pitch by gerrard showed who the manager has been this season. no more managers who have connnections to past liverpool teams we need a new direction

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:45:52
The set of players we bought were quality before they came here as I said 3 months ago, and they still are, so......look at the coaching if you want to know what changed.
We've had bad luck, sure, but I've never seen a run like this where confidence has just got lower and lower. The costs to this club are frightening in every way and if the boss thinks we'll be fooled by an FA Cup win, he can take a hike!!
At least KD could just for once explain via the media why he's failed so badly instead of being "canny" - isn't he big enough to do that for the thousands (and millions) of us who keep the faith and always will?
Give us RESPECT man, and then walk quietly away -WE gave you that and a fair shake after all.
PS Sorry for Pepe who's probably more pissed off than even we are.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:44:46
Why bother buying young starlets? When they never play in th first team. Everton and united let young players play nd learn, if Wayne rooney had signed for Liverpool he would still be in the reserves. I bet Raheem Stirling will leave Liverpool for someone like fulham sometime soon, be great and then sold to united or city for 30 million in 3 or 4 years. Why don't we give him a shirt and let him be our messi. Oldest football cliche "if your good enough your old enough". Messi plays almost every minute of every game for club and country. Gerard,Owen, and fowler all have been great young players, give raheem his chance before he goes else where to get it.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:48:24
hoping that match was an april fools prank and the real one kicks off tomarrow
derryred

Lol
taran

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:43:59
so carroll started and you guys lost!

stats or no stats..this current team of yours sucks big time..

Rudi

I think were all aware of how bad we are dont really need reminding.

Whats that supposed to mean Sherlock?

DaveyBootle

And you support??
Or are you a wanderer? utd, city , arsenal, spurs , Chelsea or are you a Newcastle fan today

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:43:36
I feel that some of the players deep down inside have lost faith in Kenny. We have become an absolute joke and the butt of all jokes. Today really hurt, if you love the club like many of you do it hurts when you see our club performing like this and seeing the players lack of believe in themselves and as a team.

I saw when Kenny walked onto the pitch just after the red card, Gerrard telling him to go away. Tensions are running high and patience is wearing thin for both players, staff and fans alike. I love Kenny for what he has done in the past for Liverpool but I don't feel he is the man to take us forward. Yes he has steadied the ship in shipping out players on high wages thus reducing the wage bill and won the Carling Cup and could possibly win the F.A Cup but we are slowly going in the opposite direction in the most important target which is improving in the League and one day becoming serious title contenders.

In terms of a new manager I don't think Rafa is the answer and not because I thought he did a bad job as manager. I actually love Rafa as well for what he did for the club as well and for the fact he wasn't just a manager he actually loved and loves the club. Plus he gave me some of my best nights as a Liverpool fan.

The man I want unfortunately would be difficult verging on impossible to attract or so seems to be in the opinion of ed002, but feel if we could bringing him in would guarantee success and that man is Mourinho. Love him or hate him and many do in both respects you can't argue with his record and the fact he always no matter where he goes has the players playing and giving their all not only for him as a manger but as a person, which seems to be painfully lacking at the moment. He also has that ability to united his teams and has them playing as a team. These are qualities we are lacking and need and I am sure Mr Winter and co are aware of who Mourinho is and he fits their criteria in what they like as a manager.

LFC4LIFE

Gerard didnt tell Kenny to go away you muppet, he told him that Flanno was going left back and that he was going right back...stop making up stories

Don't know what game you watced. Gerrard clearly KK to get off and the body language from Gerrard was clear. No way will the Special Once come to LFC. He will cost 12 million a season and is a winner.

Hmmm, I am not in the habit of making up stories or replying to plebs who feel tough calling someone a muppet behind a keyboard without having the balls to sign their posts... well I guess one out of two aint bad!



LFC4LIFE

Never mourinho.

never ever mourinho.

never ever never mourinho.

anybody who says otherwise is wrong.

king tubby.

Dear Mr LFC4LIFE

signing your post with an obvious pseudonym is not exactly 'signing your post'.

Your disdain suggests an honest sobriquet yet your sign-off suggests hiding in a closet.

Mr King Tubby (real name and address and everything)

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:41:50
Goals upfront and from the midfield. We lack goals. We play ok, better than most.
Carroll not really good enough tecnically and goals return is awful.
Downing good player, doesn't score enough for his ability, shooting technique is awful.
Adam can score and play but is an attacking midfielder that we use more defensively.
Henderson good young player but again not noted for having an eye for goal or a good shot.
Spearing again not a bad covering squad player but no eye for goal whatsoever.
A lot of games we will all these players on the pitch at the same time and Maxi who does have an eye for goal warming the bench. It's very well being young and having energy in abundance but we need Goats!!
kidmillions

I agree, "goats" are the answer, we need goats

Goats is certainly an interesting suggestion. Presumably they wouldn't be any worse than some of the donkeys we've got at the moment.

Please no more farm animals, we have enough with that great big donkey who wears the number 9.

The only goat around here is the original poster.

A truckload of goats will do for me

I think 3 more goats and a couple of sheep and we should be Ok...:-)

You guna be doing some kind of sacrifice or ritual with those goats you're after?

I can do you 2 sheep for £50 but goats are out of season, a bit like Liverpool ; )

Gav

Couldn't agree more..Goats are the future. They seldom fall over, are good on all surfaces and would definitely not have gone down the way Carroll did...I'm just about to Google "goats" to see where I can get a couple!

Goats!.
We have £35m donkey!

Too many sheep at lfc .

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:37:50
Just a question for the staunch dalglish followers (and ed001 is he is about)

Should we get knocked out the fa cup would you still want Kenny in charge next year?

Nevada {Ed001's Note - I would still say the same as I have all along, assess it in the summer.}

Why assess ed? Im not exactly a fickle fan as many call me, but i lost hope in kenny when he signed all this dross for over 100 million. He has gone from being a hero to a zero.
Indian Buzzer {Ed002's Note - You would rather take the knee-jerk approach then? Spearing as player/manager the rest of the season?}

Ed001 you said dalglish should be given at least one more season!

{Ed002's Note - That was last year.}

Despite our league performance this year, I would still be willing to give Kenny next year as well. I very rarely base any of my assesments using emotion and I still think the problems we have could be fixed by Kenny and co. The issue of motivation seems to be a difficult one, players seemed to be more up for it when Woy was in charge.

Nevada

19th in 2012. That isnt exactly knee-jerk, is it? Personally, wud love to see gerrard as player-manager for the rest of the season. Chelsea r doing quite well under terry, di matteo is merely a puppet.
Indian Buzzer

Indian buzzer will ya stop with your craziness please. Your April fools is killing my heart.....

Dublad

Gerrard and Carra are the problem with our club together with this insistence on living on past reputation and past glories.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:37:46
Yes I agree. Kenny is dreadful and his tactics poor.

Carragher should not be playing at top level amymore, Coates should start.

We are slow, boring, don't score goals, leak goals with out Carragher and we are a poor side.

The league Is your bread and butter and this Is where you should be judged not in the cups.

Go now kenny, Clarke in temp charge and make an appointment close season, mourinho is the one to do it and he would love the challenge.

Mj

It sure would be a challenge!! Be realistic, he isn't going to leave the biggest club in the world to come and manage Henderson, Adam etc....

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:37:25
Just a few things about that result today. Why is gerrard not getting any stick he was shocking today how many times did he give the ball away that's the worst I've seen him play. Another thing that's starting to annoy me is this obsession with playing a defensive midfielder I can understand it when Lucas is in the team because he is one of the best around but spearing seriously? He brings absolutely nothing to the team at all he can't pass and he can't even defend that well. I can't even say lets get behind the team because they don't deserve it.

Mat lfc

It's a team game for which you need team mates capable of doing their job.
kidmillions

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:34:15
Cheer up guys.

Next season we'll have a new kit, a new manager, new players and a new stadium plan.

Adam

You guys are so funny.....at least you can still laugh at yourselves. A new kit is the best you can hope for - what players would want to join a sinking ship?

Is that Charlie Adam?!

Another stadium plan.
Don't think that will happen for a long while.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:34:09
Dont know why you are all complaining. There is nothing to be gained from the league for us this season now anyway. We stopped having a chance of even salvaging pride weeks ago after the defeat at bolton.


Players dont care about the league now so why should anyone else?

Because a loss is still a loss and it is disappointing even a friendly loss in pre season is disappointing so we are still a team in the league playing the best teams in europe why should we not care

Then they shoudn't be playing for Liverpool!

So you're happy to just lose the last 7 league games too and finish well into the bottom half of the table?

Then I'm sure you'll attract loads of world class talent to your squad in the summer...

haha, genius!

Gav

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:11:04
Ed 001 ( as a lfc fan) I would like to get your take on our current state of affairs please. Last season when kk took over we played some great football and I've no doubt we were playing with a new lease of life after Roy's reign, could not have gone down anymore. Then kk spent a lot of money in the summer and I think (without sounding like I'm slagging players) that none of the signings have performed anywhere near what we thougt or what they are capable of. There must be reasons for this other than confidence, I mean they have had long enough now to settle.
If a player has ability and is used to the epl then surely it's down to the manager and staff to find there best position and get them playing to there ability. They are not doing this and why? Is this the managers tactics? Is this the managers training? Last year we were all pulling our hair out when our players were clearly not playing for Roy, I am starting to see the same look in recent games, not just because weve been getting beat. Is it that the kk factor has now left the team and were left with the reality that they don't believe in him or the staff?
The desire and willingness seems to have totally left us now.
I'm not saying kks times up but to be so far from
Cl places let alone the top is truly disturbing.
The owners have some real questions to be asking now of the team and staff, even kk who simply can not live solely by rep.
Just food for though for now though.
Andy the red.
{Ed001's Note - it is hard to say, confidence is clearly low, to play the style of footie we are trying to, you need to have high confidence. Why it has been allowed and who is at fault, I really don't know.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:41:16
hopefully kenny will sacked soon get rodgers or rafa in the summer.
wonder why sterling wasnt on the bench never mid stating.why did carrol go down through on goal and not put it in the back of the net.we have lost 6of last 7 games.reina red card doni could hardly do worse.whats happening to our great club?
Shanio1

I tell you what's happening to our 'great club'. It's so-called fans like you posting comments like this in a disrespectful manner.

DaveyBootle

If the leauge started at the start of the year we would be 20th and thats a FACT.
and a questain for you how many games have you gone to yoursel? you cant just go to other people calling them 'so called fans'. p.s you can call them so called fans but you know what i mean.
Shanio1

Davey from bootle...do you honestly believe that the original poster is not at least a little bit entitled to feeling how he does given our performance this year?

Sports are all about the games you win.

What's all this "show kenny some respect" when people question him or doubt him, get a grip. He's put himself in the hot seat and if results don't go the right way why shouldn't anyone question him? Yes he has done more for the club than anyone else ever has and yes he deserves massive respect for that, but to all get in s tiff when anyone suggests he's not up to it is pathetic. (eds I appreciate you probably delete post that genuinely do disrespect him).
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion And some feel his time is up, this is not disrespectful this is football.
Andy the red

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:41:02
How many of u fools are Going to stick behind dalglish after that.been sayin it all year this joke of a manager couldn't manage a p**s.is he sleeping with spearing.the worst player I've seen in years.and don't be fooled that we're missing lucas because he is a donkey aswell.buy buy dalglish u won't be missed.

Fools? That offends me as a Kenny supporter coming from a simpleton like you.

DaveyBootle

Buy buy....he already did - Downing, Adams, Carroll and Henderson. Me fail English, that's unpossible

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt the purpose of being a Liverpool fan to support Liverpool? Not Kenny. If what Kenny achieves falls in line with what Liverpool wants then I would be a Kenny fan too. Until he does however I am still just a Livepool fan.

Nevada

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:40:51
Sentiment and emotion can come into it but only by so much.
Surely all this talk of KK being a legend etc etc means he will be moved back upstairs or leave by mutual consent rather than being sacked.

That is the only option.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:40:29
I think its probably a good thing we qualify for europa via league cup because there is a good chance we wouldnt be in europe next year otherwise...

Then again do we really want to play in europe if we are going to be this poor?

Nevada

We still have to play a qualifier before we actually in the europa league, we may not make it still, nothing is secured yet m8 unless we manage to win FA cup.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:40:20
it hasnt bottomed out yet . there is still worse to come . a great percentage wanted avb as manager this year would owners want him . its a hard call for owners to make but something has to be done . for me its michael laudrup. . kenny second time back has failed owners wont take gamble of rafa coming back it will be a fresh broom. laudrup is available now take the gamble. cos at the moment were going round in circles.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:40:13
This is the first time I have posted in support of Dalglish being replaced as manager and I do so with a heavy heart because the man is a true legend and a gentleman. Regrettably the current form is so bad that I don't think Dalglish can turn it around, and I'm sorry to say the major problem has been the quality of his signings.
We can't give Dagliesh a further opportunity to invest in the squad unless he has a drastic rethink about the current recruitment policy and lets be honest he's unlikely to do that.
Its such a shame I hoped for a glorious return for the King but its simply not worked out, anybody else would have already been dismissed, but Kenny has ( and rightly so) been given more time because of his iconic status. But, Kenny wont resign, hes a warrior, that's why we love him the owners have to make the big call and fire him, and we cant have him in a senior position at the club either, imagine the pressure on a new manager having the King overseeing all that you do. Either the youth team or an ambassadorial role is suitable.
Its tragic, but it has to happen, thank you Kenny for everything, but its time to go.
My choice for new manager is Brendan Rodgers, what a brand of football he plays.
With Regret

Andy H

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:39:18
It's a sad day for me, My 6 year old son just told me ''he doesnt like liverpool anymore coz they keep losing'' My heart is broke, Thanks Kenny and the players for making my son lose faith in our once great club, I dont think ive ever felt so upset, davey

Davey grow a pair of balls ye wool

Looks like the club just lost a fan. Dont worry mate, back here in India, more n more former liverpool fans have started supporting man city n chelsea, n i dont blame them. Im the only fool still sticking with kenny's sinking ship.
Indian Buzzer

The club is still great .

Qwerty

Tell your boy to supprot Man United. He won't be upset any longer

Still living in the past i see Qwerty why am i not surprised.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:26:11
We've had a 35m dilemma hanging over our heads all season, I think it's undoubtedly true we tried to offload him to city in January. And furthermore he'll be gone in the Summer. If we had only paid say 5M for him I don't think Kenny would let him anywhere near the team.
But because he is 35M flop we have to put up with him for monetary reasons and to entice someone to buy him. He's always looked like a lad who would be more comfortable playing for THE DOG AND DUCK on a Sunday than being a professional footballer.
I find it really embarrassing having that type of player at the Club! I knew this would happen; certain players can drag the level of the whole Club down! Anyone who disagrees; take a look at our goals return.
kidmillions

The only flaw with your argument is that our entire team hates scoring goals. Cant heap all the blame on carroll.

Remember last year when we scored for fun at the end of season? where has that mentality gone.

Are you the guy who has been telling everyone "we are a work in progress" and anyone who disagrees is a "Kenny hater".

You have been trying to divide LFC fans all season. Now you have the cheek to write posts pretending our problems are all about Carroll.

I sign my posts, unlike some and i do still support kenny and have said all along he has made one glaringly bad buy. Don't all managers make bad buys? Get rid of the bad buy and influence and move on. But sacrifice Kenny for that lazy git Carroll never.
kidmillions

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:24:39
A disappointing scoreline but my god we have had no luck today at all. I mean we had a stonewall penalty and sending off not given. There second goal was a mile offside. Reina was a bit silly but it gives Doni a chance now so good luck to him.


I thought youn flanno was brilliant today and fairplay to kenny for giving youth a chance.

I thought some of our football was really good in the first half. But the fans need to really get behind the team next week. Surely its up to us fans to give them our support rather than always criticise and really get behind the team next week. We just all need to stay together and give Kenny and the team our support.

I am going next saturday and i will be cheering on the boys more than ever and lets see if we can get out of this run and go into the semi on a high.

Its easy to slag the team off when we lose but lets show why we are the best supporters in the world and give them our full support.

Positives was flannos performance and mins on the pitch for shelvey and bellamy.

Kenny is the man and deserves patience and time. But more importantly lets show our support.

Mighty reds

I agree we should show our support but we can't use luck as an excuse today, if anything we were lucky newcastle didnt make it 2 nil after hittin the post two minutes into the second half.
We're really clutching at straws when our positives are flannagan and shelvey.

I think Flannagan ball-watches too often and was caught out on a few occasions today.

DaveyBootle

How many games are you going to attribute to bad luck?!

You do realise that by saying every defeat is bad luck then you are also saying when we win its because we were lucky.

I prefer to think of it as we lost because we werent good enough and when we win its because we were the better team.

Nevada

Well if any loss can be put to bad luck its today's game, as Mighty Red posted, we should have had a clear penalty and they should've been down to ten, both of their goals were offside, maybe the first one is touch and go but the second was a very clear offside.

Roy

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:24:33
Play appauling for most of that game. The first 20 minutes we were dominating but we seem to panic when we don't get a goal. They did get a goal out of nothing really and that was the turning point of the game. We didn't believe we could score.

I do believe, however, Shelvey played very well and was probably the best player in a red shirt today. Probably shouldn't have been subbed and we should have had Sterling on the bench.

BthekingB

Very good post , shelvey was our best player by a country mile , plus 3 men up front took a player from our midfield , great to see bellers back , but he was very rusty , so to take off shelvey was a big mistake , should have been a forward , and got a better grip on midfield , plus its now we should be giving the young lads more games , so play coates , shelvey for the rest of season , and i think its time to buy a new keeper , pepe is nowhere as good as he was ,
redforever

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:53:47
Hi ed001, If you could please answer these.

1. If you were the manager what would you change in the team?

2. What do you think is going wrong with the team?

Thanks ed001, im in loss for words and thoughts right now. hope you could enlighten me a lil bit

AVERDISSAPOINTEDRED {Ed001's Note - 1. Reina, he has been poor for 2 seasons, we can't keep waiting for him to return to form. Time for him to be dropped, if he doesn't respond in the correct way, then he will have to be sold in the summer.
Carragher is simply not a good fit for our current style of play, either change it or drop him, for me Coates deserves a chance to play a few games.
Enrique has been poor for a while now, he is constantly caught up field or he drops back too deep and gives the right winger too much time and space to pick a ball, like he did today for the first goal. It is time to drop players who aren't performing, I know Robinson, who would be a great replacement, has been injured, but Aurelio is well suited to our style of play.
The big one is Gerrard, he is not playing well, we all know what he is capable of, but we can't afford to carry him for 85min in the hope of a flash of brilliance. At his best, he has power and pace, he obviously isn't able to manage that for a full match at the moment, why not sit him on the bench and bring him on to turn a game? Just until he gets his fitness back and can work for 90min. Shelvey has shown signs of being good enough to cover for him, he is certainly playing better at the moment, give him a run.
We can't really do much else with the midfield, we just don't have the players, but Coady deserves a chance to play as the holding midfielder, even if just from the bench. He offers more pace and power (and height!) than Spearing.
Carroll just isn't performing, he is constantly looking for the easy option of a dive, rather than trying to use his strength to bully defenders. If he can't be rid of that, then he shouldn't be in the team, Kuyt up top would be a better option for me.}

Wasn't Reina flexing his muscles this time last year, saying he'd move on if things diidn't turn around

he is contracted to LFC until June 2016

Have to agree with Ed001.
I think Coady needs to be given a chance as well. He's 19/20 (I think), and should be pushing for a place on the bench in the senior squad. I would hope to see players like him and Sterling get playing time, either in the last games of this season, or on the bench for next season. Not much point in having an Academy if it doesn't produce players for the first team (Yes, I know Kelly, Flanno and Spearing were from the Academy). I'd hope our Academy is for more than producing players to be sold for small profit.
Perhaps, the management team will decide to drop some of the underperforming first-teamers for the some of the remaining games. Give Coady, Sterling, Coates, Shelvey and perhaps Morgan a run out, and maybe give our big names a good kick up the backside.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:52:56
ed001 what is your view of todays game and do you think kenny should resign.

I personally believe that we might end up in the 2nd half of the table but i blame the players more than anyone but kenny has to take a lot of blame too.

I think our players have a disgraceful attitude apart from suarez but including gerrard.

KingMiz {Ed001's Note - there are a lot of issues, but I don't see how it would help removing Kenny, Clarke and Keen don't seem to be offering anything either. We may as well finish the season and then make a decision, but if one goes they all have to go.}

I agree with ed, no point changing things now it wont salvage anything from the season.

I also agree about coaching staff. For me some very big decisions need to be made about playing staff also. Carragher, Gerrard and Reina and Enrique need dropping, they are too comfy and coast by on average performances. They need reminding that hungrier players are waiting.

There are some massive motivation issues within the team which have been present all season (hence our poor home record) and very few players have shown desire to win. People might say thats the players fault but its also the coaching staff as its their job to make sure players are focussed or to drop them if they are not.

Nevada

I think Suarez has the worst attitude out of anyone at the club.
KiwiRed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:33:23
getting fed up of this now , exscuse after exscuse, i have supported dalglish but he has to go now, i would love to see brendon rogers come in,or a return of rafa.

also i wouldnt be surprised to see alot of players leave ones who are under acheving and ones who are to good for the club.

also now top layers will want to join us the way we are playing. i dont now whats happining to this club.

Rodgers will be in the running for any of the top teams when vacancies become available - why would he leave Swansea who are a side he has built and are on the ascent for a club in decline like LFC?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:31:22
I just wana say the LFC.TV phone in is a joke only letting certain callers through an nothink about kenny,s position at the club just a false phone in talking about all s**t i wont be watching ever again

JOEL

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:29:06
The strength of our squad as yet again been shown up this season.I am unclear on who made the call on the players we bought ,but they got it wrong.Spearing and Carra have been given an opportunity to show everyone if they are upto the task of driving us forward, and imo. six defeats in seven tells us they are not.Gerrard doesn't have the same effect on the side as he once did.We need a complete clear out of the old school and the average local brigade.I thought Kenny would be ruthless with certain players but it has come obvious in recent games that Carra and Gerrard are telling him what to do.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:28:16
very disapointing again today spearing looked out of his depth. think kk deserves his crack at fa cup no matter how bad we are in the league ive said it befor the league was over after the arsenal game and if kk gets us the fa cup for a cup double(i no theres still along way to go yet) then this season could stil be good. if somebody sed a cup double at the start of season we'd of taken it. but if it goes belly up im torn as to who shud be aloud to spend the money in the summer. if kenny was to go think we shud go all out for martin o neil and bring larson with him for right wing...redman matt

I agree,,, I'd like to see Martin O' Neil, he's done wonders this season with Sunderland without any money,, they're only 2 points behind us,, Imagine if O'Neill had of spent 112 million.

O'Neill is even worse that KK when it comes to by s**t players for lots of money look at the state he left Villa in

Oneill has never finished higher than 6th as a manager in the EPL. We need better than him.

Steve

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:22:09
Would you stick with Kenny Ed? I believe he's lost the dressing room.

Gav the Red {Ed002's Note - My views remain unchanged. "He's lost the dressing room" is another much over used cliche.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:21:35
You guys are speaking nonesense. I saw the headbutt and replays. It was pretty obvious even to non physicists that it generated enough wind power to have caused significant damage to a nostril hair. It had to be red.

Tekneek {Ed002's Note - I don't think that blindly defending Reina is going to help. It was an over-reaction and a particularly stupid thing to do. The referee had no choice at all.}

His form is woeful so...
He deserved to be dropped anyway

Contact or no players are not allowed to show retaliation, hence why cards are shown.

Nevada

Once you put in the head , like pepe , barton did , it should be a five game ban , there are some things we need to drive out of our game , this is one , anyway I think pepe will be gone in the summer , his form has dropped big time , then again , I think there will be big changes come june/july , we badly need another top manager , who will be brave enough to drop or rest players when they are not performing .
redforever

Remember babel got sent off for less reina had the ball and ran back to confront the newcastle player ok he made a big play to get reina sent off but it was reinas' fault any way its a chance for doni who by the way drives the best red ferrari you have ever seen , he as taste lets hope he has the class in goal for us , he needs us to get behind him from the start.

 

 

01 apr 2012 16:21:23
bring back king kevin keegan too steady the ship

Oh how I wish Kevin Keegan would return as a young player. He was simply just outstanding. Suarez can be like Keegan if he finds a nice partner. Not Carroll, he has been useless And I hope we sell him after throwing the Liverpool jersey on the floor. Utter disrespect can not be tolerated, as we are not mancester united, mancester city, or Chelsea. We have a strict conduct dulling for the players to follow.


Georgia red.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:20:57
Flanno looked completly out of his depth today, when he has played in the past he has done alright but today he just looked like he couldnt handle it. Maybe the sun has made the players think they are on their summer holidays already? Bellamy was poor today i thought for his standards, he seems to be better as a impact sub. 4-3-3 away at Newcastle was a bold move from Kenny, which didnt pay off, I dont have a clue why he didnt make a sub until 78 mins, it was a joke!!
Yes we can say the ref was poor and bits of luck didnt go our way but at the end of the day we where extreamly poor once again, I think Kenny needs to hang up his boots before his reputation is tarnished for good
Really disapointing! Being fair I think Doni isnt a bad keeper, so it could be worse with Reina missing the FA Cup semi final, Doni just doesnt have the experience in our team thats the only worry, but I think he will do okay. The club might as well appeal the red card, he misses the semi final anyway, so they can appeal and win it and then he makes the semi final, or appeal and loose the appeal and he misses 1 more league game, which isnt much of a loss as we have nothing to play for in the league anyway

Flanno and Shelvey were the bright spots today you plank.

Shelvey good, Flanno not great at all. Wake up man

Flanno did not play to his usually standards, though I was impressed by jonjo shelvey but I feel him and gerrad cannot play together in the midfield. Something was wrong with gerrad, no emotion, he yelled at Kenny; something needs to be changed


Georgia red

Agree , flanno , but shelvey in particular , were are best players , think our midfield was week , cos we played 3 up front , so to take off shelvey was a huge mistake , as our younger players need more game time , bellers was a bit rusty , and never plays 90 mins , so why not take him off , and kuyt and hendo , come on , redforever

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:20:26
Another poor performance. So given we can't make any transfers what would you do to change what's happening at the club? Do you still have faith in Kenny?

Reddan

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:19:23
What happens if we bring in a new manager and he doesn't win us the league immediately. Why do you people feel justified to celebrate when Liverpool win ? Why do only certain players get your abuse ? If Liverpool win the FA cup will you celebrate ? Not one moaning fan deserves to celebrate anything associated with this club. Until recently we had deserved to be in top 4. The league is basically pointless now so why does this result matter so much ? I personally would be delighted if 90 percent of you fans stopped supporting Liverpool. The fans job is not to criticise the players and manager it is to get behind the team and sing their heart out.
To end with a quote from the great Bill Shankly: 'if you don't support us when we lose or draw don't bother supporting us when we win.'
Ernest Redding

Shut up you tool....we have now lost 6 in 7!

That's why fans want kenny out!

I quite agree, and it's not only the players that need to look at themselves, the supportes too. The Newcastle fans put us to shame, when did we last get support like that at home. They sang and supported their team even when passes were going astray....Bobbinred

If some of us pay our hard earned money,to watch us, we're entitled to criticize.

I understand what you are saying but no manager should be allowed to continue managing this team with the results that we have had.

Nobody is bigger than the club, if shanks team had performed this badly this season then I think he would've fired himself.

Nevada

Is that you kenny?

He also said
"For a player to be good enough to play for Liverpool, he must be prepared
to run through a brick wall for me then come out fighting on the other side."

The current squad will not do that for KK so i my view they all need to go

Rubbish.

What makes you think being unhappy with the team means you are not a true supporter? In fact, it is probably the most passionate supporters who feel most unhappy today.

And given that the players and coaches make millions due to fans' spending, we have not only a right but a responsibility to make our unhappiness known.

Actually it is the fans job to criticise as every club needs it to happen
What was your opinion on Hodgson then Ernst redding huh? Did you blindly support him when we were appalling

We have lost six out of our last seven league games,so I think as supporters we do have a right to question what is happening on the field.As for having ago at certain players,I agree that some people will single out the players they feel are under performing.If I say Carra as been on the slide for three seasons, and that if jay spearing was born in bristol would he be hyped up as much as the man is.Andy Carroll hasn't shown me he's worth 35 million.Hendo hasn't been giving a run at the position he played so well at last season for Sunderland.Downing should never have been bought for 20 million.It's all about opinions.We should have gone out and bought a replacement for Lucas in January.

Again, I was as disappointed with the display, as I was the result. Liverpool is my team (although I don't go to the match, anymore) so it matters to me when we lose and matters even more when we play badly and lose. Even if you think it was 'just' a league game.
I feel the need to take out my disappointment and frustration (ask the wife!), so I have a moan and have a go at players and staff, at times. It's because it matters to me; probably, too much.
But there's a way of doing this. Some people go way over the top and some of the comments about the likes of Dalglish and Carragher, for example, are out out of order. They are fans, like us and it matters as much to them, as it does us; if not more.
They may no longer be up to their jobs but they deserve more respect.
We should be allowed to moan about 'our' team, because we care. But let us not get abusive. We are better than that, or we should be.
Rigsby.

Why is he a 'tool' egg-head? He's supporting the manager. Sort it out.

DaveyBootle

Most of us fans support and get behind the team win, lode or draw but everyones entitled to there opinion. There are some fans that want to stick with Kenny and some who don't, some would play Saurez and Carroll up top, some Saurez and Bellamy, thats what football is all about, opinions. We all get behind the side no matter who's playing when they cross that white line

Most of us support the club, not individual managers. This does not mean former players and managers are not revered, and rightly so.

But at the end of the day, the club is bigger than any individual, and always will be.

I gave up on Woy when the football was abysmal. Granted we have not been playing great football of late but I would give Kenny the summer and 6 months to turn it round. If anyone deserves a bit more time surely its him. Or are all you fans to fickle to even realize that ?
Ernest Redding

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:17:01
Hi eds n reds

In my opinion we lack three crucial things..Pace.Technical ability(flair) and lastly a natural finisher..all the teams in the top 5 have these attributes and we don't..that's why we are where we are and they are where they are

atlfc70

You forgot Kenny 2 important characteristics desire and commitment, since the new year, these have been lacking from most of the team except for the game against Everton.
Roy

We also lack midfield Steel. Gerry is/should be a impact player coming on.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:14:23
Come on doni

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:13:27
I might apply to become the Liverpool manager next season,I can't do a worse job than king kenny. Zaydan123

Have you the balls to tell Carra to sling his hook.You have,well then the job is yours.

Can i have camollis job? I could do far better than that useless...

Peter

No you can't have his job,I want full control. Zaydan123

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:11:44
If it doesnt change now,has to in summer.Come on Fenway,shock us-Jose and backing please!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:11:14
So what will the priority be.
Build a new stadium, or build a team that can fill that stadium.
This is the dilemma that LFC are facing!!..

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:10:58
We basically imploded today, in front of millions. We have gone from bad to being an embarrassment. Gerrard shouting at Kenny on the pitch said it all.

It's a shame we put Kenny in this situation. He should have been a six month caretaker. But his pride would not let him do that, I guess.

The owners and Ayre now must step in, and try to stabilize the club once again. A sad day all round.

Agree..but we need a new manager thats for sure we can't let kenny waste anymore money on his British players. he really doesn't know any other market. RIJKAARD or KLOPP.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:10:20
Like i said earlier in the week,If carra starts were in trouble...We leek goals when he plays...Why carn't kenny get this into his head..First name on the sheet...stevie and carra...Those two names printed on when fit...JOKE

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:09:33
was actually shocked to see gerrard shouting ''go away'' at kenny when he walked onto the pitch, kenny needs to go NOW

I'm not shocked at all"well done Gerard"kenny is making a mockery of liverpool FC he needs to get sacked today {Ed001's Note - actually, Gerrard doing that is a disgrace, no player should ever do that to his manager, he is as much of an issue as anyone.}

What was kenny actually doing? i think for an instance he had a brain freeze and thought he could go on between the sticks!

Gav

Kenny is to emotionally attached to the club he does not see things with a clear head. Get him out and replace him with someone who can see things with a clear vision.

J

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:08:33
Well , they have said for more than forty years that LFC supporters are the most knowledgeable in the game which explains why most of us travelled expecting to lose today , check this week's posts for confirmation .

A man I have respected and worshipped for almost as long as that has become a joke in football terms , and has dragged the club down with him .

Why should a man in his sixties who has been out of the game for so long have a clue how to earn Premiership points ? The answer is , of course , he doesn't .

So sad .

So sad but so true
Fans have lost hope and faith under kenny

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:06:46
i cat believe the some fan , ut of all the managers we ould replace keny with they go and ask for rafa , thats a step bacwards , support liverpool fotbal club instead of manager because neither rafa or kenny is the answer , plus no matter who is our manager i will support liverpool football club ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,mikey b

Now write in English please

How is it backwards,

Under Raffa we where a top 4 team, getting to the latter stages of the CL.

Now where just S**t, most people go on experince. Kenny may have been good 20 years ago, but then again the USSR was still in go then.

Is your memory that bad that you dont remember us being 7th in rafa's last season he had a part in destroying our team aswell you know.

You want us to not go backwards but tell us to support a man that is further from the past than rafa?

How is this progress that kenny talks about.
the rafa team of 09 would have thrashed this team. H&G F'ed us up before they went by getting rid of rafa

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:05:24
Thankyou for steadying ship.And everything youve done for us Kenny.Dont sulley the memory now.You dont look as if you can motivate them anymore.Or if you have tactical nouse.Carrols storming down tunnel showed a lackve respect

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:05:09
With the current form of our team, especially, in my opinion, pepe reina, who now, regularly gets nutmegged and beaten at the near post,and the other players, especially the recent signings, who were never good enough for our team. Bearing in mind we are currently 31 points behind the leaders. Who, and how many players do you think we realistically need, to become challengers for the premier title again.

We need a new manager first, then players.

Well we need about 3/4 years it seems we are so far of challenging its unreal.

11 new players, with the whole team as it is now as squad players.

but to be honest the vast number fans that asked for kenny to get full time job is to blaime as you forced FSG's hand.


SIDE NOTE:
do you guys think that kenny has dialog with rodolfo borrell?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:05:06
god liverpool. we didnt even play good today, and still won 2-0. is king kenny still a king? a

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:03:46
On the positive side of things, we will continue doing what we do and at the end of the season we will add up the points and see where we are, should we win our last 7 matchs we would have equalled a club record premiership lowest points tally.
Thanks kenny your the king..
You can go now.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:03:07
from BBC Radio 5

".....if the season started on first of January, Liverpool would be bottom of the league....."

And if my aunty had balls she'd be my uncle

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:03:05
I think Kenny needs to tell the players that each game is a cup match prior to kick off, maybe we might win a couple of games then!

Just out of interest, who does everyone want as manager next season ?
Should Dalglish leave.

Hans

AvB or Klopp. Plz not Rafa

Rafa back mate
wafa

Klopp.

Alan Hansen

Rafa Benitez. He's available, love the club, and tactical genius

I think Kenny needs to tell players he's off

How about Unai Emery ?

Hans

Emery or klopp. Young and dont seem to be backed with100m and still do better than most managers who are backed with 100m.


Georgia red

Paul Lambert for me just our level

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:01:39
Would absolutely love to be in the LFC dressing room after that shambles. Yes, things went against us. Yes, the ref was awful as per usual. But I'm not going to bleat on about that. Newcastle deserved to win because they scored two and we lacked imagination.

This season and my belief going forward has me totally baffled on what has gone wrong in 2012. 2011, we played some fantastic football, without the goals. 2012 ? - Agger being injured, Spearing playing regularly, the 'Suarez' affair, no 20+goalscorer(not addressed in January=criminal).... I could go on and on and on..

I am beyond pi**ed right now.

The whole team should hang their heads in shame, they DO NOT deserve to wear the shirt. Kenny, like Ed001 said has made too many changes, too often. No continuity all season.

Heads needs to roll...

Lee YNWA (I realise I'm waffling-can't think straight-SO ANGRY!)

We need to us our reserves more they are called reserves for a reason, with our first team players isn't performing then u give someone else a run. and get that "first team player" motivated. we have nothing, NOTHING to play for in the league, play ngoo hes better than carroll, suso, adorjan, sterling. silva could have been playing now hes that good. but at least hes getting game time somewhere else.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:01:30
Ba,
Cisse,
Ben Arfa = 11 million

Carroll,
Downing,
Henderson = 75

Yes we get it you h**king idot...we paid a lot of money for our players!!!

Ba,
Cisse,
Ben Arfa= 0 winners medals


Carroll,
Downing,
Henderson= 1 winners medal

The money paid is not the issue it's the desire and passion that is, do you think Cisse, Ba and Ben Arfa will stay if a big money move is made for them - I don't think so.
KernowRed

Those 3 from newcastle were bought for 20-25million.

I see your point, but no need to exaggerate it.

Whats an idot?? oh I see,, you can't spell you moran

Yes fella...you got Ba , Cisse and Ben Arfa.....the pound signs will be going round and round in Ashleys head....ha , bet AT LEAST 2 out of those 3 will be sold....nice while it lasted eh!? Pinhead.

Well, to be fair, we aint gonna get any big offers for our players are we? Maybe suarez, if barca or real come sniffing do you honestly think he will turn them down? Gerrard only never went to Chelski coz he was threatened.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:59:13
Another disgrace performance today. 3 losses on the belt. Im sorry but Kenny needs to go at the end of the season, even though he's won us a cup and we are in a semi final in the FA cup. We have drawn far too many home games this season and lost too many away games for our standard. The reason for this is because we cannot score, Kenny brings in over 90 million worth of 'talent' and they cannot even convert chances! He doesnt have a clue about the players to buy, Carrol is a joke, Adam was a championship player and now getting in the starting 11 of a top premier league club! Downing so much for his crosses havent seen any of our players score from one. Henderson is getting better but still not worth 18 mil. Suarez cant fault him, might not of scored many but without him i couldnt of seen us creating any chances. Enrique has done excellent until the past few games IMO.
Kenny gone please

I think kenny focused way to much on the cups, and neglected the league, thats the reason why the players are so spent.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:59:05
Who signed these morans?Remember kks last reign?Speedie and Carter?5 at back.Only did it with Fagan and Evans.Harford at Blackburn

Morans! with an 'O'

thank you!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:58:52
I thought the Carling Cup win was supposed to be the spring board to a strong finish to the season??

Feck me!! It's like most of the squad thought that the Wembley win WAS the end of the season coz they haven't turned up since the final.

Frenchy

To be honest most of them didn't turn up at the final either......

Nor before that game either to be fair!

Gav

 

 

01 Apr 2012 16:02:36
play all our promising youngsters with are best players and we will start building a good squad but then that would mean dropping 100 mil worth of s@it!

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,doni,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
mendy,,skrtel,,coates,,enrique
,,,,,,,,,,,gerrard,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,downing,,,,,maxi,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,suso,,,,,,,,,,sterling,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,suarez,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Flair: suso, gerrard, maxi and suarez would be sooo creative

Pace: enrique, downing and sterling

mendy and coates are solid.


jones, sama, flanagan, Aurelio, henderson, adorjan, morgan

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:53:46
Just got a email from lfc ticket office saying with the climax to the end of season approaching fast,watch your heroes live in action on their travels when they visit Ewood park to play Blackburn.I think I'm going to give it a miss,I rather watch paint dry

Had tickets to the villa game next sat but think my dad has sold them now, which is disappointing as we hardly ever get tickets

I sold my villa tickets,I'm buying fa cup tickets tomorrow morning,I'm selling my west brom tickets together with fa cup tickets. Zaydan123

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:53:09
i think we all agree that we need kenny to resign to upstairs and get a manager (not coyle,rodgers,oneill,pardew etc) but a european manager who'll want to sign european players, not these mediocre british players, i mean one glance at the world rankings shows where england are so why buy players that cant even make the national team and some cant make the squad. i think
bielsa,klopp,mazzarri,ranieri or even enrique would do a decent job if i say so myself. believe if u agree, if not unbelieve pls

wafa

Ranieri don't make me laugh he's terrible he got sacked by inter just the other day

I am watching Swansea vs Spurs right, both sides playing a level of football that would beat most sides in Europe. Both have British managers.

I have been saying this for some time and my ideal replacement would be Mourinho, or Klopp as both are quality managers and we may not like Jose but he has won the league he has managed in and would be 1st choice for me

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:52:33
ed, havent seen the match just heard the result, what did you think of the match and performances and is it true gerrard told kk to get off the pitch and if its true i think gerrrd has to be shown the door in the summer disrespective of kk managing atm? {Ed002's Note - I rather think Gerrard was doing Dalglish a favour to avoid him interfering with the game. The performance was not good but Newcastle played well - particularly Ben Arfa and Cisse.}

The captain showing a bit of leadership, there was no need to KK to be there. Selling Gerrard for such an incident would be foolish.

RedSG

Gerrard shown the door lol jog on

Gerrard was saving Kenny the embarrassment of being sent to the stands (and a 3 game ban for going on the field of play during the game) just about the most effective thing he did all game.

Shocking, joke and laughing stock!!

redredundantsoldier

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:51:43
Lets have it right, now we have really started to come apart at the seams. That is a new low in the season of woe. The owners will not be able to ignore the growing mayhem at the club. It's not something you can play your way through, this is rotten to the core. The whole squad is losing the faith in the manager. The tactics are now so toothless that after 60 minutes the team loses all direction. We can't score because we don't have a strike force capable of scoring. We need to find a new Owen or fowler, a poacher who feeds on half chances and can make something out of nothing.
If there is still anyone who has 100% faith in dalglish they are living in the past and it's that type of thinking that will drive the final nail into the coffin of the great Lfc. We are 20 years into our decline, it's not something that has happened over the past 6 months. Sadly we are in critical condition now and need serious attention. We are in it up to our necks.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:51:23
What happened to Sterling today, why wasn't he even in the team?

Curled1 {Ed002's Note - He is just a kid.}

If your good enough your old enough. He can't be any worse than the s**t we currently put out. {Ed002's Note - For a team built on cliches no doubt.}

Ye but so is chamberlain and he still gets in the team at arsenal

Just a kid, when do you stop being a kid?
Owen,fowler,Stevie etc all kids when they made their debuts and carried on their careers. If they are good enough then let them play {Ed002's Note - He is just 17 and subject to being a "child" in the eyes of the rules that have to be followed. He still has to attend school and is limited on the amount of time he can train. Obviously you are unhappy with the Academy and Reserve staff - so perhaps a campaign of hate to get rid of them and get Sterling in as first team player/manager is the way forward. Just regurgitating cliches will not solve the problems that the team has right now.}

Ed, If he is not ready then get him OUT of the 1st team squad. Otherwise get him on the bench at least....

The Jackal {Ed002's Note - As I have said, I expect a cameo or two. Why are you so angry about him?}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:51:14
Dalgliesh to stand down after the FA semi final should we lose.

Then he will be standing down then

It will motivate the players more if he was sacked a day before the game as they would feel they can play their best without the fear of playing so good when he is in charge that everyone thinks he should be given a chance....which he has been given a chance more than Roy. ed's can talk about fans calling for rafa's head in 2005 but this is miles worse than that. seriously its worse than last season as we had two transfer windows to make it right.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:58:34
how anyone can defend kenny after today disgrace is beyond me , he took too long to make the subs and he kept andy carrol on the pitch too long , why he does not keep to the 4-4-2 winning formation he's had this sason is beyond me again , the team are all over the place and i think the last 2 defeats have knocked the stuffing out of the players , 2 wins in 12 games is not good enough for liverpool , up untill we bent over and took it up the hoop of the f.a. over luis ban oits not been the same , they should have appealed his ban and dealt with it then , but that does not take away that kenny has been out of the game too long and its showing , he does not seem as sharp as he once was as a manager and that is costng our club , i believe the mantra that no man is bigger than the club , i support the club , not the manager , like most fans do , you get the rafa group who want him back , and the you have the king kenny group , well im a liverpool fan and these men have hurt our club and kenny keeps hurting it , i cant wait for the end of the season , wich will bring an end to the embarrising football getting played by kenny tactics ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,mikey b

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:58:27
I was not over the moon when we placed Dalglish in charge. I always support my team but I was very sceptical Dalglish could work in the modern era, he has been away from football for far to long and football has evolved a lot since the 90s.

His transfers have been an 80m waste. I wasn't impressed with our summer transfer activity but have tried to be positive and support the team. UNfourtunatly my initial sceptisim has Been proven right.

Dalglish needs to step down Imeidietly, Steve Clarke should take temporary charge until we can find a world class replacement in the summer. For the rest of the season we should play Coates instead of Caragher, and Coady, Suso and Sterling should get some game time. If we finish 6 or 10th there is minimal money lost but the experience these quality youngsters would gain could be invaluable next season. I would love to hear any ones opinion on my thoughts. YNWA

Jkjk23

Agree coates needs game time and carra look out of it.

also agree with sterling, suso and coady. i'd add jack dunn to that list as he is practically a two footed daisy cutter magician.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:57:46
Oh dear oh dear. Am working away in Texas for a couple of days so had to catch up with the results on-line. Sounds as though we were tactically inept today, and the Toon wanted it a lot more.
Never been one to call for a managers head ( apart from Hodgson ), but something isn't right at anfield at the moment and something has to be done. Fenway will outwardly support Kenny, but behind closed doors they will pile on the pressure. This is the way Kenny should have handled all discretions this season, instead of accusing he media and neutrals of a witch hunt. I don't think even an FA cup win can heal the damage that this season has bought to the club.
There are seven games left for the season, we are already in the Europa league next year, play youngsters in these last matches to see what there is coming through, because lets be honest NO big name players will want to come to Anfield at present.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:57:08
Kenny came in last season to steady ROY's ship, he did a good job of it, now we need another manager to steady KENNY's ship because it is sinking very fast, you have to be BLIND not to see it.

Is it 5 or 6 loses in a row?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:21:44
Just like to say how bad we're are and I think that kenny should go now and save face , only thing I don't understand I if kenny was a cockney like Roy he would have gone ages ago wake up mr Henry grab this club by neck and stop living in past and glory days and get manager that will bring respect to this club once again and players that r worth the money and not over payed tossers

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:21:30
The April Fool time was at Newcastle this afternoon

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:21:29
Come on the get behind kenny and the team gang are you enjoying watching this crap, he has spent a fortune making us crap, if he loves the club as he says then resign immediately

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:21:21
can someone please tell me when agger and bellamy are back?

x

Bellamy?? :))

Bellamy was on the field today but didn't play...

Chuck Norris

Craig played today

Agger you have hurt us.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:20:54
There is only one answer if the Fenway Group are serious about being successful at the highest level - Jose Mourinho....

As much as it hurts me to say it, like it or not, this team and coaching set up is simply not good enough. Not even close.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:20:46
this team and season is awful, how can the kenny lovers excuse this. He has been backed by the owners assembled a poor group of players when will they take their rose tinted spectacles off and see the season as it has been poor

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:56:04
If he doesn't walk away now his reputation will be in tatters. Also I recently read his autobiography and if he really loves LFC like he says he does then he has to walk. It's killing me watching us play like this.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:55:23
Why did kk sub Shelvey instead of Gerrard for Downing? Shelvey was playing 10 times better than Gerrard. Why is Carra still starting over Coates? This run of form is just shocking...

Tekneek

Gerrards playing like going through motions.Or is he just finished?

Motions hopefully

I wouldn't say finished he is playing like we have nothing to play for nd did you see Shelvey give Gerrard some looks when he kept passing to the other team, like is this the Gerrard i wanted to be like.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:54:51
Hey eds nt a rumour just a say... Andy Carroll blatantly fell down web he cud hav scored and I for 1 think his career shud b finishd at Liverpool

He worked harder today.But he just doesnt have enough ability.Never will

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:54:37
I remember those day when i startred watching football in rafa bentiz days torres and gerrad complementing each other as husband wife for team.We were not playing attractive football like these days of kenny but scoring a lot of goals. Now liverpool is like divorced family. Performances of both gerrad and torres dimnished.Then rafa bentiz left Roy arrived but time for liverpool become worst and then he get sacked. Kenny arrives i does not heard his name before but in the way season finished and made signings i hoped that we will in top four but now we struggling to get top 10. I remeber the wonderful performences of riena at liverpool in previous season,caroll at newcastle and dowing at aston villa what they does not perform near to their shadows. According to me reason is man management and tactis. Take todays game we played with 3 at upfront but no one on left wing. Right back of newcastle has full freedom to help central defenders. Riena was the best goalkeeper PL but now he is not in pl top 10 goalkeeper. I don"t know kenny dalgish is a lengend or something more . but i know he is not right man to lead liverpool.

 

 

01 apr 2012 15:54:25
the grass was too long.

Yea Tel 1949 Kb and waro will use likes of that

I think it was Denmark who Ireland at home in Dublin.

I can't find the quote but Jack Charlton either blamed the pitch or the time of year for the poor performance

To be fair, the grass was a bit long today...:-)

Tel 1949

The wind was blowing in the wrong direction too tbf

and it didnt help Liverpool that the clocks went forward last week...I think Carragher and Gerrard particularly are still playing one hour behind, lol

Gav

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:50:54
No fight left at all in this team.
It all went downhill after the Lucas injury, is anyone still in doubt about how great a player he is?
This team seems to miss agger, Lucas and the players gerrard, carra and kuyt used to be far too much, nobody wants to step up and prove they deserve a place.
I'm just hoping last summers spending was phase 1 out of 2. We will need a similar clear out and a similar amount spent this summer.
Nothing much wrong with the tactics we were brilliant until the first goal went in, then it was as if the confidence switch was turned off.

MIKEY

Who would you clear out MIKEY?

Roy

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:49:57
We were good before we conceded, should have had a penalty for the handball. Suarez should have scored only he shot straight at Perch. Carroll would have scored if he didnt dive, not to mention the fact he completely gave up after 70 minutes. Suarez stood the ball at the back post open goal and Carroll was parked at the edge of the box he just couldnt be bothered. The difference between Newcastle and us is that all Newcastle signings have bedded in seamlessly while ours are completely disjointed and their attitude is one of defeat. Kenny needs to rip into everyone of those players today. I dont think Kenny is right for the job but I would stick with him until the summer we dont need anymore instability. I think he will do the right thing in the summer and step down but until then I will support the team even if they break my heart I will keep supporting.

88

It was never a handball ,come on well beaten today lets just admit it.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:49:48
I think the reason we're so "Brad Pitt", is because Kenny's lost the dressing room ages ago.

They don't believe in him, and they see and sense it in training, that he lacks the tactical qualities required to succeed in modern day football.

This results in the players feeling an inadequacy to compete in the league, which they take unto the pitch...it's frightening when you think about it! Even more so when you read comments from fans who'd follow Kenny over a cliff, defending his ineptitudes.

When Downing was coming on, Kenny didn't utter a single word to him. What does that tell you?

It tells me he hasn't a truck and crew!

Kenny I don't worship you...Don't let the door hit you on the........Oh Kenny!

StrabaneRed

One of the ed's mentioned that there might be an issue with the coaches, a bit like Donegal's Cassidy and McGuinness :)

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:49:32
Great decision Kenny and co.Not to get Striker in Jan

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:48:54
Just a thought, spearing is just not up to standard but watching gerrard is so frustrating
A player who used to mix it with the best now seems so average and seems as if he has given up at times in the pitch.
Maybe its time to look beyond gerrard as a certain starter and look to future because we have a long long way to go if we want to get back to where we want.
Coates should be starting from now on, he cant make things any worse.
As for Pepe, i doubt he'd be here next season. Maybe he could follow Andy....

I agree about spearing just isnt up to the required standard and if he is suposed to be our ball winner we are in trouble hurry up back lucas!...redman matt

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:48:49
What the F*** is happening?! It's like we dont want to play anymore! i cant imagine the locker room right now! our passing was abysmal! I dont know who to blame anymore! We changed our formation three times! Our subs were late! and our players' attitude sucks! We play 20mins like were the team to beat then they score and its like we dont want to finish the game anymore! I cant remember when was the last time we came back from behind and won a game! In fact its the other way around ryt now we always lose our lead and end up losing! We must first change our attitude before we could even plan on being on the top4 again.

YNWA
AVERYDISSAPOINTEDRED

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:47:57
Ed, is Reina really banned for the cup semi?

Thanks {Ed002's Note - Nothing is yet decided about the length of the abn - give it a couple of days.}

Automatic 3 game ban for violent conduct {Ed002's Note - As decided by a panel in a day or two.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:47:46
Ouch! Gerrard shouting at Kenny, Reina out, Carroll tosses jersey....all but the crying. When the manager loses control, he has to go. Nevermind the sentimental side of it all. The lad has to go. I feel sad for Kenny.

Sensible post.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:47:28
hi ed i m from India.Plz tell me honestly what u think now? KK should step down(removed) or not??Plz answer i m big fan of site also Macca's view !!? {Ed002's Note - My view is well known and remains unchanged.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:46:45
ed would you rather have rafa back or get relegated with kenny next season? {Ed002's Note - There is no point in asking ridiculous questions. Sorry.}

Not rediculous. i know you dont like rafa but he would be the best we could hope for. he knows how to get us in champions league. i know you think kenny should stay but i feel everything is gonna go even more down hill from here.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:46:24
The team played an April fools joke today

No we are the april fools joke

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:45:51
Well Done boy's Liverpool win 2-0 ooops April Fool :) I want to weakup next morning and see new news Kenny been sacked .


hhh

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:45:45
Dalglish has got to step down. His tactics were wrong, waited until the 75th minute to make a change, no time for the substitutes to make an influence. Tempers are blatently high in the Liverpool camp.

Please shed some light on this, and let others give their opinions.

His tactics were fine.
Players are responsible, stop blaming the wrong person.
KK didn't headbutt anyone, or miss the ball like flanno.
Simply put, if the players do not have the heart, passion, belief, or dedication to play for LFC then they can p*ss off!.
Tired of KK getting blamed week in and week out.

78th minutes m8. joke

Let's just say this, of I was the manger today I would rip into them all in the dressing room fine them and threaten them, if they dont improve then actions will be taken

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:45:31
How did Carroll get on today cozinoz?

SHED END

Carroll had a great game for newcastle it was like he never left..

Brillant

he showed a great turn of pace, running down the tunnel :(

Well said Shed end.Cozinoz and co.are our worst tunnel vision brainwashed fans.Were not all as daft.And coincidently most arent who actually GO regularily!

I think Cozinoz is probably 'away on business' or something. You are unlikely to hear from him or his co-tools for a few days

Wheres Blair been recently? And Tel 1949?

Gav

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:45:15
I need to understand something.

When we bought Torres from you for £50million he was awful, he struggled to hit a barn door and couldn't control a ball. He looked past it and you were laughing at us because he was a 'Liverpool' lad who loved your club and didn't like being at Chelsea. Despite all that we stuck by him, we sang his name nearly every home game, even against Wolves when he was on the bench we sang his name. We have supported him non stop from the day he signed for us, its no exaggeration to say that he is already up there with JT and Luiz as one of our favourite players in the squad, and fast becoming a Chelsea legend.

So if we treat OUR players like this, then how come you all have seemingly turned your back on Andy Carroll, apart from the odd one or two? Its disgraceful. We hear you constantly hark on about how you are the best fans in the world, yet how have you shown it on this occasion? You call us plastic fans yet when one of our players was struggling, we supported him and all stuck together behind him. One of your players is struggling yet all you can say is sell him and cut your losses?

So excuse me if next time i hear one of you say that you have the best fans in the world, with the best support, and that we are 'plastic fans', i take it with a pinch of salt.

OsgoodIsKing

Torres becoming a legend? Your having a laff? If your saving that then Winston Bogard is also a legend.....

Dublad

Utter tripe, you need to look at the posts on your own page to see how you support your players, you pillock. Although i would agree that a lot of Liverpool fans are exactly the same.

Everytime Andy Carroll gets on the field he gets a massive reception by the Liverpool fans, we may not think he's good enough but everytime he puts on a red shirt we get behind him, so don't comment on something you haven't a clue on.

Mate with respect have you watched LFC this year? I know what you're saying in that we all have to support our players but Torres is in a different league to carrol and was always going to come good. Going back to your team if they played anything like we are I honestly think you would change your tune, it's one thing sticking by people when they have a bad run of form but when your team is playing the worst football in the league it's hard to take. Jeff.

I have to agree with this post 100% - as much as it pains me to say it.
Been supporting LFC since Evans was manager.

Lol cheered me up that did!!

red snake

You had hit the nail on the head there Osgood. We know we are the best supporters in the world. All that matters to me mate.

Melbourne CFC

We have eyes and with them you can see even a misfiring torres has top class ability, the same cannot be said of carroll.
i don't think you would give carroll the same support as torres.
kidmillions

I've got to take what Chelsea fans say with a pinch of salt, if Torres is "fast becoming a Chelsea legend".
Legend? Are you familiar with the definition of legend or are you that hard up in the that department?
Rigsby.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:44:37
Please bring raffa back. Pleeease......

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:40:05
Revenue stream difference between LFC and Man Utd was £44million. It's now around the £140million mark. That's the task to fix.

-Shane.

You cant fix it its an unfair race we have a 1.2 engine they have a purring 4.2 sovereign v8 engine.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:43:28
Well done king kenny
What great progress we have made under you,your signings have been outstanding carroll,downing,henderson,adam have been a success,we can't wait to see who you buy next season,I thank you for the super performances that I have witnessed I am speechless.

Once again thank you kenny for the great job you have done at Liverpool.

Will the last person to leave please turn the lights out our season is over

Thanks kenny"thanks"

It has been over for a while m8 even the players know that, you must be the last person to realise that, switch of the light plz :)

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:43:24
Support Kenny the worst will happen we will Relegated then win championship and say we are champion :) How he still in the charge it's not £110m team.

R-R

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:42:39
In my opinion Carroll needs to go, His reaction after getting subbed was pathetic, You can say he started okay but not worth 35 million more like 35 quid.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:42:16
April Fools! We havn't kicked off yet. Hope we win.
Shelvey and Bellamy playing. Carroll upfront, go get em Big Man! Wee Jay defensive mid against those big lads,
"Piece of cake" go show em Jay!
Liverpool to win 3-1.
kidmillions

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:42:05
Ed, do you think Reina actually made contact with Perch. If he didnt, is it still violent conduct and a straight 3 game ban because he made the head movement towards Perch? I am assuming contact has to be made, or am i wrong? Cheers

The Irish Rover {Ed001's Note - the red card would have been given for violent conduct, not that I care, he has been so poor I think it has done us a favour.}

{Ed001's Note - the red card would have been given for violent conduct, not that I care, he has been so poor I think it has done us a favour.}
===========================
Do you care to expand on that, He has been exposed because of some awful defending --not just today, the same applies against Wigan and QPR, and the defense is being exposed by lack of protection from midfield, you can't just blame everyone but the management who clearly are responsible for this lack of form... Sorry No 1 , I love Kenny probably as much as you do, but its obvious to me its not working , the signing were mostly wrong and as well as we play going forward, if we dont have a goal scorer all the good build up is wasted , and the defense is suffering now because they have to compensate for the big gap in the middle ....
We miss you Lucas, please hurry back.

Roy {Ed001's Note - yet a lot of the pressure on the back 4 has come from Reina failing to clear corners, his decision making has been poor and he has just stood still when he should be taking command. What happened to him organising the defence? That used to be one of his big strengths, he just doesn't look like he can be bothered any more. But you are only interested in trying to make another anti-Dalglish point, when this was happening before Dalglish took charge.}

That is absolute tosh; When have I made an anti-Daglish point/comment? At the start I was defending him, up to a month ago I was defending him, I always thought its down to the new signings and always said we can't be 100% sure these were Kenny's , but its obvious over time , what he is trying to do is not working he does not have the team to play the type of football he wants, and however hard you try a square peg wont go in a round hole.
I still think he a liverpool legend, and will always be even if we were relegated, but at the same time I am not blind.
As for Reina, you just contradicted yourself, you start by saying he has been poor this season, and when asked to explain, you say this been happening since before Kenny took charge, well which one is it?

Roy

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:41:44
Ed, give me some signs of hope other than the FA Cup, or is there any? {Ed001's Note - for this season? Not really, sorry.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:40:25
Delglish needs to go! He gets his team selection wrong a lot! We have some great attacking players a great prospect in sterling but he never gets it right, Bring back Benitez! This is getting inbarrising!

Your spelling is inbarrising.

OsgoodIsKing

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:39:12
I think even the Kenny supports most say he has to go after today's shambles, We would have been better under Woy.


Under Raffa, Newcastle used to be our whipping boys, It really pains me to see how far we have fallen in 2 years it really does.


Im to young to remember Kenny first time round, but the league most have been easier to win, if he could win it.


Raffa back is a most even till the end of the season we need some who can win a game.


In Raffa we trust!


Time to get your coat i think kenny


Rushdentillidie

KK will be gone by the end of the seasson, he is sacking himself.
Should never have been brought back.

But what makes you think Raffa would want to come back. Didnt we get rid of him last time, as he wasnt good engough :(

Things that go around come around

I'll admit I am / was a Kenny supporter but to be honest it ain't looking good, we need that modern day manager that will take us forward, sorry KK but it's for the good of LFC.
KernowRed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:39:08
I not going to come on here and slate Dalglish and the players but just give a honest opinion.

I've supported LFC for 25 years and can't remember being on such a poor run.
I look at the team when 3/4 years ago, we had players like Mascarano, Alonso, Gerrard and Carra in there prime, Torres and now lookat the side today, Spearing, Shelvey, Carroll, Flanagon ( not saying ther bad players) but not in the same league as 3/4 years ago.
This with the fact that every game we change the strikers and midfield is the reason why we are so poor at the moment. You can't go on cup compitions you have to be judged on your league performance and we are simply not good enough.
When you can't score against a make shift Newcastle defence and the keeper admits he didn't really have to make a save then you have problems.

Feeling really p****d and can't wait til next season, just hope there are some major changes, have a feeling there won't be.

Bilverstone

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:38:06
Hi everyone, listened to the game on the radio didn't sound like it went well, what's next? can't wait until this season is over, going back few season look at the players gone and no one has been replaced alonso, mascherano, riera, Torres really upset lfc fan.

Lfc fan from Cardiff.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:37:35
Hi eds n reds

Said it before and I'll say it again..kenny ain't the man for the job..the game has changed too much..he takes too long to change things and when eventually does its way too late..when you buy poor players you end up a poor team..and we r now a poor team..and kenny thinks this squad is good enough makes me think he's livin on a different planet..we r a laughing stock now and with this current bunch of wasters I see no sign of improvement.Gerrard seems like he's somewhere else and far from the player he was a year ago..To finish..things look really grim and kenny should go now before it's too late

atlfc70

It already is TOO LATE!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:36:43
We need to get rid of daglish,comoli, and all the pathetic signings they have made, starting with carrol. What was kenny and comoli thinking about when they signed him,henderson,adam and downing? Unf****ing beliveable!!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:36:32
What has happened to my beloved club, I just want to see us do well and I know that does not happen over night. I was not expecting a title challenge but I am shocked how we look one dimensional and once we concede we never go on to win. What hurts more is we are not only getting beaten but getting humiliated and having games fizzle out instead of looking like we can pull it back in the final minutes of the game.


Today was one of the most painful days in a while as a Liverpool fan with being outplayed in the second half, Reina sending off, Carroll understandable anger at being taken off, lack of imagination, just a sad day. I can't even imagine what is going on in the dressing room now.

I love this club above any man and whether it is right or not in my opinion and I stress opinion I feel the owners will bring in a new manager. The stats they read out in the early part of the game was shocking. Would like to hear others opinions on what they feel should happen in the summer regarding players and manager?



LFC4LIFE

What is needed is a radical clear out. Start tonight by thinking who you want to keep. Build a team around them. Invest some money. Get a Manager who can deliver. Not one who hopes he can. Bring on the younger players they will lose to start with but they will be better than the dross we field at the moment. Don't leave it till the end of the season start tonight. Then we'll have a better chance of hitting the new season running. The KD/KK era is over. Recognise it. Start tonight forget the sem-final we have bigger fish to fry. If Paisley was here he'd shift the lot out of Anfield. Get on with it management your share value is falling every day and our patience is spent.
Bring back the quality. If you fight, play well and lose we'll still support you. But we won't tolerate this junk any longer.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:29:12
is this a April's fools joke or what.
k-h

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:29:03
I'm loving your work Kenny & Reina.....haven't been that entertained in a long time. Quality, absolutely quality stuff.

And this won't get any better until Kenny goes!

 

 

01 apr 2012 15:28:47
kb,cozinoz were great.three players short.tel,waro-your wrong wrong wrong wake up

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:28:31
besidz this ref never ever doing us any favours but the truth of the matter is LFC NO GOOD. what the fck was carroll doing when there was a goal wide open and the donkey falls over.
SAD

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:28:18
you guys suck!i mean the response to the first goal was abysmal! so much for better football under kenny!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:28:08

I'd like to try and add something positive to this page. But I can't...

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:27:50
What utter crap. Reina definately past sell by date. Spineless, gutless and totally bereft of any game plan or ideas. This is the worst i have ever seen. Couldn't win a kick around on the park with U11's at the moment.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:27:48
After that game I am convinced the FA have told referees to penalise Liverpool for their refusal to be bullied over Suarez and Atkinson is too poor of an actor to make it look genuine!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:27:43
Totally gutted... the players just don't care anymore. There is a depressing ineviatibility to all our matches, play well for a spell, lose a goal from set peice or cross then just implode.

No quality, no belief, no passion or pride. Not even any common sense as Pepe now misses Semi final.

Some poor ref decisions today but it's only hiding the truth. Only problem is how can this change .. if Kenny said that's it now who would manage to end of season... Clarke, Keen, Comoli?

Always support you LFC but today was just shocking. The fans deserve better than this

D 2308.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:36:26
Tim krul didn't make 1 save!

Because he did not need to, we were woeful, uninterested and deserved to lose.

Hold on boys its no big thing to get beat of newcastle today, you are dismissing us like were s**t, the best thing for you is to realise that teams have caught you up, and ya not as good as you think, big clubs, make me sick!!!

I thought he pushed one onto the crossbar from Bellamy?

You mean that cross?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:35:32
Anyone who defends Carroll now wants their head testing! complete and utter waste of fookin money.
Have been sayin it all season. Now it looks like to me the players don't want him on the pitch and Kenny is sorry we ever got him.
Would be happy if he never played for us again "Took his shirt off and ran down the tunnel, cheeky b**tard.
As for pepe we won't miss him the way he's playing.
kidmillions

Yeah but who the hell is going to buy him!

We have to pay him to leave!

Thanks Kenny, what a F-ing joke we have become.
King my arse

It's not just the players, is it?

Actually what you have been saying all season is that we are "work in progress" and all critics are "Kenny haters".

But hey, don't let the facts get in they way. You are always right.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:35:10
Just want to point out we never played that bad under benitez!
I actually think kenny doesnt know what hes doing he should step down before he tarnishes his name anymore.

lack of passion through out the game, no energy, no flair no creativity,tactically we have no idea
bring benitez back! Everyone goes on about he wasted alot of money but i reckon he would of bought better player with the money daglish had n to behonest i cant see carroll's value doubling n a bit more u know like torres did which might i add was a benitez signing so for the money we wasted under benitez im pretty sure benitezs boat was settled with the sale of torres.

But when it comes to tactian benitez is one of the best n he would either bring out the best in daglishs signings or get rid of them.

ACHILLES.

Agreed Benitez wants back he was pushed out by the old owners with John w Henry backing him Rada would make us a force again

Big massive SIGH from me, I feel the exact same way, but you're wasting your erm finger breath!

Too many people here are blinded by idolization and still believe:

A) The game hasn't changed
B) It's still the 80's
C) It's acceptable.
D) Kenny needs more time and money. ha!

StrabaneRed

PS: I'm not a real Liverpool fan btw

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:33:50
Presumably now Reina is banned for three games, and given his repeated experience at diving all over the place in the Premiership and handling the ball in the World Cup, you lot will have a ready made replacement in your so likeable little Uruguayan!

Coates? What does his nationality have to do with anything?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:33:22
Us fans are practically dying inside it hurts that much and to watch things like this again and again is painful.
To top the day off I have been called a carp fan for getting angry and saying the truth about what we are and family have sold the tickets to the villa game next week.
Please let this be an April fools

Don't worry the April Fools will be here to defend Kenny soon enough!

StrabaneRed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:33:16
Dear oh Dear, that was horrible. On the plus side 42 pts should keep us from the drop, for this season at least.

MASSIVE changes required, from Commoli down. The reactions of Carrol and Reina does not suggest a happy camp.

And remind me why Sterling wasn't even on the bench. Too young my ar*e. Other than Suarez, he is the ONLY direct player in the 1st team squad.

The Jackal.

Why not mention kenny's name ? comelli ? all the buy is kenny's choice

With 21 points still to play for even Wolves can get in front of us.
KernowRed

I have been tight lipped but am afraid im starting to agree. I'm not saying sack him, him and him, but something is clearly wrong within the squad, once we conceded our heads went down and nobody looked interested. Very upsetting.
Issues need to be looked at, only Wolves have dropped more points this year!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:32:47
wow... 1.16 goals per game this season arent we a brilliant threat. shame is i though carroll looked classy first half today but people will still blame him when it was the whole team being terrible.

Classy! Are you for real

He dived when through on goal

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:32:29
Just heard on 5live that if the season had started on the 1st of january, we would now on the 1/4/12 be bottom. No April Fools. Would any other manager survive?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:32:25
Eds, do you think that Liverpool could get relegated this season? With the bottom teams winning and us keep losing there must be a strong possibility?

What do you think? {Ed001's Note - nope.}

Lol relegated? come on thats abit extreme

I am not an ed but we will be definitly be playing championship football next season.

Oh the glamour of it!

Can't wait!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:32:13
Kenny out! Comolli out! Less points per home game than Hodgson... that says it all.

Gav the Red :-(

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:32:02
Get Rafa in as caretaker until the end of the season to try and get things back on track - then make the decision in the summer whether to keep him on or get a progressive younger coach in (like Brendan Rogers).

The players do not look like they are playing for KK or the club anymore.

Too many passengers.

Not enough fight or desire.

We were doing well until they scored. rather than say right! I'm not having that! Let's get back into this match!! we just stood off them, gave them space, didn't fight for any ball and looked like we had given up.

They are not passengers they are players that don't have to fight for their position and when 4th spot was beyond us all we seem to care about is the cup. I would like to see us win the FA cup - goes without saying - but come LFC you're playing like you're clueless right now at one point we had 77% possession with nothing to show.
KernowRed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:31:46
lol love simpsons handball. Relegation this season boys?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:31:31
The first thing I would do this summer would be to get rid of that useless lump Andy Carroll. Let's face facts, he is never going to come good. LFC need a fast, mobile striker alongside Suarez.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:31:15
Is anyone else thinking now that Kenny did indeed inherit a fantastic side in the eighties and quit when it started to go wrong? The evidence is mounting and some people need to stop deluding themselves into thinking that he's going to get it right. This is truly the worst lfc side I have ever seen.

Actually some of Kenny's first signings were Barnes, Beardsley, Houghton and Aldridge. Whilst I'm not defending his current signings you I'll think you will find that those 4 players were the spearhead of the team that won 1988 and 1990 titles and narrowly missed out doing the double in 1989 losing with last kick of season at Anfield after we were still trying to deal with Hillsbrough. Stop trying to rewrite history and discredit him.

Totally agree , inherits a great team, buys well (and more importantly easily..players want to play for winning teams) We know the reasons why he left, and how it was effecting his decision making (remember 4-4 Everton cup replay), he left an ageing team in 91. This is a very poor side, technically and commitment wise.

davinspain

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:30:56
Gerrard shouting at kenny ''just go away, go away'' when he walked on the pitch.. Carroll throwing his jersey on the ground when he walked straight down the tunnel.. Reina suspended for the cup final.. Kenny, please, i am actually begging at this stage, get out of our club, you have turned us into a laughing stock

Yes I noticed that too! It was shocking.

Today was clearly the breaking point. Don't think there is any way back for many people at the club.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:30:08
Gerrard Telling Kenny To get of the pitch say's it all , It all goes back to Suarez return at Old Trafford since then we have lost our way , Players , staff , Fans
I don't think Kenny should go , but the back room staff needs looking at at I Have said fo r Months Pepe is out of sorts
Bringing Carrol of won't have helped his confidence , no point in that sub and Playing him with now wingers need's to be looked at
But Let's support them till the end boys
K.O.B

How can a manager stay on after his captain tells him to just "go away" on the field in front of millions? {Ed002's Note - You don't think that Gerrard should be applauded for saving Dalglish being sent off for interfering then? It seems it is easier to spew hate than to think rationally.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:30:06
I dont care who says its not reality to expect someone like Mourhino to come in but in this modern world of football its people like him who win things on a regular basis, the games changed and in every sense, another season wasted while we wait for yet another rebuild, get a modern day manager in who knows all the modern systems etc and give him a warchest, only buying the best will restore us to the top four not a 20 year rebuilding plan, which for the record is pretty much what its been upto now,
Top drawer managers bring top drawer players, fact

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:29:45
For a team that's supposed to play pass and move football both have been notably missing today. And do they not practice basic heading of a ball to another player?
After a promising opening Liverpool just fell apart. Credit to Newcastle. Gave us a football lesson in passing, movement, how to close down and apply pressure when not in possession and more importantly how to finish clinically.
Worrying times for Liverpool.

Gordy

You're right Gordy we never and I mean never close down players to stop the pass or shot - back to basics is where we should go.
KernowRed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:29:28
Improvement on last year.... F#ck sake we had a lucky win in the mickey mouse cup that we never deserved to win and are now worse than Everton...
Cant wait to see what pile of crap Liverpool buy next transfer market... Diabolical....
Perch you are a disgrace as well
Angry Red

And Pepe action was o.k i take it .

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:27:38
What happened to the team that use to play with confidence?
Invernesian

The confidence disappeared

When did they play?

How long ago?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:27:18
Carrol cheek to storm off after THAT miss.Goodbye and good riddance

That dive you mean,,,, disgraceful

He stormed off so that he wouldn't have to sit through the abuse which is understandable

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:27:07
Perch is a diving peice of sh11 never a red but we got what we deserved
Depressed {Ed001's Note - Reina shouldn't have reacted, first sign of passion he has shown all season.}

There wasn't any contact and if he wanted to stitch him one I'm sure he would have made a better job of it.

But just like us all season sh!t happens and things go against us, oh and the fact we're playing crap doesn't help either.

Dublad

Agree ed!

Ed in your opinion do you think reina wants to leave and will leave this summer? {Ed002's Note - I am not going to second guess what Reina wants to do. There is evidence of stupidity but none that he wishes to leave.}

Like that ed completely agree

We even miss with head butts!

Suarez has done plenty of diving too ,difference is he's got goals so you don't mention it .

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:27:05
outplayed totally by newcastle, new stay tuned to watch the MIGHT SPURS

a team you could only wish to be as good as

I'd rather die than wish to be like you pathetic spuds...flash in the pan side that will be no-where when tea-bag face leaves for the England job...Watch how quick you rats will desert that sinking ship..

You could only DREAM to have what we have :)))

In all serious though mate, when was the last time the spuds achieved anything or merit? No its ok, you can go ask your grandad and get back to me, i can wait.

Melbourne CFC

Melbourne, ur a master of starting arguments involving two other teams on another clubs banter page, only if you could go start one on united's page.


Georgia red

Mighty spurs?. the mighty spurs who got battered by man city 5-1 at whl?. the mighty spurs who got battered 5-0 aggregate by real madrid?. what has spurs won in the last 4 years?. nothing. spurs fans who thought that they were going to win the league this season, must have no brain.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:27:05
Let's see what KK has to say now, we were a wee bit unlucky a wee bit tired and all this crap pathetic

Only had one week break between games..

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:26:59
Hey Eds, apparently we have signed Lakov Goalz as well. Going to be a good season next year I hope. What are your views on him? {Ed001's Note - I am pretty sure we signed him in the summer.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:26:58
Mr Dalglish you are testing my patience buddy!
Looking forward to Doni taking the first choice keeping role Riena hasn't been good enough this season...
Suarez will leave on his own accord he doesn't want to end up like Gerrard constantly on an up and downer believing its Liverpools year at the start of every year and finding out its actually next year or the year after!
This is becoming a disgracefull Liverpool side... Has Gerrard still go it? Is suarez a Goal scorer? Is Carrol good enough? As for Kuyt and Bellamy the experinced players, Are they even good enough for back up!
I'm ashamed to wear the shirt today but I'm gunna do it believing yet again that the next season will bring better times
Good luck hopefulls
Positivly Red!

Testing your patience, are you for real? I'm at a stage where I'm now actually laughing at our performances!

I never in all my life (34) seen a team in the top flight of English football in such a sorry state!

Look at Gerrard he gave the ball and ran on looking for returns or ran on looking to help out hoping others would find him when they had the ball.

Neither of the above happened

Its not Gerrard's fault his team mates are P*SS poor

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:26:49
what a load of sH*t what is Dalglish going to complain about now they were too tired against Wigan. How about cant put put together 2 passes or cant pass in the right direction.
Even Rafa wasnt this bad at least he bought some decent players Alonso, Torres, Arbelo, Reina when he had money to spend.
Only Wolves have accumalated less points than LFC since the turn of the new year.
Sad Times

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:26:19

no points ,no goals, no keeper, no pace, no good,hope it picks up soon arrrggghhhh

Can't get any worse, I hope

Dublad

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:26:17
This is what I call PROGRESS!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:25:39
Still believe were good enough KENNY?What a stupid comment.As was were tierd last week.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:25:27
ha. What a rubbish team

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:24:55
Good luck eds.

Wavertree Red

....and reds

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:24:43
I am not a good fan, because I simply can't take this. If Kenny still in charge next week, I will not watch. 20 years and this is a new low

I stopped watching ages ago,if that's what the players have to offer then I can't be botherd to watch its simple as that.i won't be buying no tops,caps,mugs,flags or any sort of merchandise for my money to be wasted in crap useless players who have no right to be wearing a Liverpool shirt and if kenny is still in charge then I won't be watching next season either.alot of delude fans will say don't turn your back on your team but it's the players and manager that have turned there back on us.I'm tired of hearing progress"what progress !!???we have lost 6 out of 7 games,also keep hearing"be patient it will take time"I think 22 years to win the league is more than enough time don't you think.big things need to change starting with sacking kenny then getting downing,Adam,Henderson,spearing,kuyt, reins,Carroll,carra out ASAP.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:23:53
There's no sentimental values in football your either good enough or not, Carroll is s**te and Dalglish and Comoli have failed.

Come on Mr. Henry do the right thing and sack All 3...

Wizards sleeve

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:23:42
Sickve it JOhn Henry please save our club! Act

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:23:22
IMO dalgliesh should not be sacked. Its more the players fault. You watch the whole game today and not one player is playing with passion and desire. No one wanting to go and gett the ball back, everyone just waiting for someone else to do it. Newcastle score and they all look defeated. No body getting behind eachother. Nothing! Absolutly awful!

Yet kenny subs were late and they were bad he switched steve G's position twice in 2 sub and kenny looks lost its same sub every match carrol ,downing ,henderson are either taken in or out

Kenny is the one who creates the atmosphere of passion and desire. its becoming clear that the players don't buy in to his way of thinking and that shows in there performance.we have no plan B when things dont go our way.and the players we've signed for the money we've spent are shocking.sorry but the book always stops with the manaer,end of.

But dalglish bought the players,,

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:22:30
Not looking forward to the FA cup semi. Everton are goin to murder us

We'll probably win to be honest.

Dublad

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:22:06
We've just turned onto the laughing stock of the league and people still think Kenny is the man for the job, what planet are they living on, there all rubbish and to make matters worse I see smiles on the players faces on the bench when we've just been humiliated, it really I'd time for change.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:21:57
Kk must leave he is clueless tactics are pathetic Carroll is as much use as an ashtray made from chocolate,time ror Jose or Brendan Rodgers

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:21:49
What a f*****g shambles.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:21:45
Cozinoz,Tel,Waro,Give it time EH? B$£"llocksx

It's idiots like you who have built up that much pressure on the manager and team that it's not surprising that once we go a goal down knowbody wants the ball and take any responsibility to try and get us back in the game! Sadly poor excuses for reds like you will probably get your way and have the manager sacked, I will look forward to your reaction when the next fella we get in has a bad spell and see what sh**te you write about him, oh no wait you don't sign your posts so I can't!

Waro

Waro.

LFC fans are (were) known for their knowledge of the game.

No-one respects you for just blindly following - the same goes for the others.
If you think thats what fans do - then you must be following the wrong sport.

I have repeatedly highlighted the multitude of problems with KK. If you can't see the obvious, your lack of knowledge is your own problem.

I know too much about the game to be happy with this.

Articulate why you think KK is doing a good job. Convince me.

I've never read anything constructive from you or your ilk, whereas I have written many a detailed analysis on our problems - which have been proved correct. Go look at them.

Clearly I was not wrong.

Who cares if he signs his post - even if it's a Utd fan, he's spot on - and clearly understands the game better than you.

BJH YNWA (signing your name doesn't make your opinions any less bland or any more insightful btw)

ps - The more time KK has had, the worse we have become. Terrible. I don't want him to oversee another summer, we may not recover for years....

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:19:45
Our club has become the laughing stock of english football. I can't see anymore than a mid table team for the next few years. I am as big a fan as anyone but i am so annoyed looking at these players, they couldn't be arsed playing for our great club.


DISGRACE.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:19:18
LFC full of problems...when liverpool are like this it makes it so hard to defend them...

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:19:14
I seriously can't take this anymore
I am in pain everyday at the thought of what next week may bring and just like all the others it is a woeful performance and abhorrent decisions
I cannot believe I am going to day this, nor do I want to but
Kk out??

You mean say this not day this. i think.
Shanio1

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:18:49
Aside from Hillsborough and Hysel, this is the LOWEST day in the history of the club

Alan50

That's the day we lose the semi against the bitters

You've forgot Bolton, Qpr, Wigan, Norwich and Swansea already? Fair play.

StrabaneRed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:18:39
Chin up lads, at least you'll get to see your new keeper in action.

DB-Red

Suarez in net? He did well in the world cup

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:18:32
Was the second goal offside?

Trishan

What would it matter?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:18:29
An all new low in our history. Reuna out and Enrique in net. This is worse than when we had Roy. Atleast wuth Roy we had Torres who could score. What do we have now? A 100 million dollar circus. Forget FA cup. We will be demolished by Everton. IMO, Kenny has to be sacked or else the owners look pathetic surely they cannot accept this

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:17:38
Humiliated at Newcastle....Players, manager & coaches. What is going on!

-Shane.

Totally inept and you have to look at the manager......he really doesn't know who his best team is. After that shambles I give up now.....mid table if lucky, don't know who to play for the best, and a string of embarrassing results. Bye bye KK he's just not good enough

Wanna hear the truth? Liverpool are rubbish

Rubbish rubbish mid table team

I said after the Cardiff game we looked like a Championship side. Calling us mid-table is probably generous.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:17:27
Does that straight red mean Reina misses the FA Cup semifinal?

YNWA USA

Yes

S.G.L.

3 match ban, includes semi with the bitters.

davinspain

No, different competition mate.

Yes.

Stu.

Yup. N i hope kenny gets banned fm the touchline as well. His presence is like poison to the players.
Indian Buzzer

The way Pepe has been playing mate, it won't be that big a loss.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

Believe so {Ed002's Note - It means that a panel will decide if it is one game or three - three if violent conduct - which I suspect it will be.}

Yes he will, but don't be too bothered he has been crap for ages

Yes, he misses the next 3 matches including the FA Cup.

Yes different comp but it's still a domestic ban so he will miss the semis

Domestic bans apply to all English competitions; he will miss the semi.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:17:10
Carol started the game like a 50 mil man but ended it like 50 pence man, sorry game for Liverpool, will see a different keeper next game since reina was not at his best maybe that is a good thing all in all it does not look good for the manager, Kenny must hope the league ends tomorrow.

Yes, Reina gives the impression of a man who wishes he were elsewhere.

With Kenny, the owners must do the merciful thing and put him out of his misery. He was the wrong person for the job full-time, and it is harming everyone.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:16:46
Two words 'sack him'

Who the ref?

MIKEY

The ref was a complete nob
k-h

The linesman :)

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:16:41
I am disgusted

YoungRed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:14:34
The team were amazing today... Until we conceded. After that they were pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Carroll I think was great until about half time, but i don't think that KD actually has faith in him at all. The players attitudes are just ridiculous, but KD isn't helping himself. I'm not sure the players believe he's got what it takes to take us
Any higher

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:14:33
just seen he subs. kenny will leave or get sacked at the end of the season. or this form will carry on to next season and we will get relegated

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:14:32
Shambles. Embarrassment. Joke. Digracefull. Shocking. Abysmal.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:14:28
Kenny to be sacked tonigh now please just go.... How much of a mess did it look like when he walked onto the pitch clueless. Henry please get rid

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:14:01
Well, at least you can't blame Kenny for that one, lol. Pepe, you utter cretin.

Jimbo77

Perch is a fish,

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:18:04
Going on todays performance, we are seriously turning into a mid table club. There was no passion in the team at all, a few glimpses of what could be but no end product.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:16:05
Wonder what kennys excuse for this one will be? Tired again? Or unlucky whats the betting

Too much rest.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:15:51
A massive over reaction by Pepe to the foul that will get him a 3 game ban. Not good enough at all.

Think it probably shows the total frustration in the squad. They really seem clueless at the moment.

If I remember rightly they did the same thing against arsenal at the start of the season, got gervinho sent off {Ed002's Note - Reina got himself sent off.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:15:40
What the f*** is Aurelio smiling about...get the f*** out of the club

GuvTOB

Its laugh or cry

Don,t blame Aurelio! Blame the other overrated, useless, talentless, passionless load of rubbish!
For the sake of LFC.........do the decent thing, and go now Kenny !

He is smiling coz he is definitely gonna get a game the way the rest of the squad is playing. If i was a fringe player, i wud do the same.
Indian Buzzer

He was probably laughing at the sight of Enrique in goal, i know i was!

The Crow

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:15:29
Wow, just wow. We are definitely cursed.

I'm convinced now.

Lee YNWA

I think your'e right, somewhere there's a witch with a united scarf on laughing her arse off.

Cursed?

More like just rubbish.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:15:24
pathetic, they harry and hustle us when in their half and we stand off when their in ours. doesn't make sense. newcastle are far the better side. if kenny stays he needs someone with tactical nous alongside him and an attack coach as our attack is woeful at best. there is no pace or flair and now reina has been sent off and that newcastle player should e ashamed of himself. what a joy today is
huddz red

You got the biggest diver in Suarez ,you lot make me laugh you really do.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:15:16
Im sorry Kenny and Reina have to both go. Reina has been useless for ages and that was just stupid
si

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:15:15
Disgraceful

Curled1

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:15:06
What a f**king circus, shocking performance.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:14:55
We have imploded! Kenny will be very lucky to be manager next season...

RedSG

Hell be lucky to be manager tomorrow.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:13:51
Shambles-go Kenny ffs

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:13:46
the players have all let kenny down

Totally agree 100%
The players are woe-ful

Gerrard was shocking today
Suarez,Bellamy too
3 potential world class players awful

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:13:40
We're an absolute mess!
Think that was Reina's Zidane moment, he won't be here next season.

-Shane.

Reina, Gerrard, Carra, Kuyt, Maxi, Aurelio, Aquilani, Cole, Spearing etc must all go. Time for complete clearout.

I'd only keep: Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Kelly, Enrique, Adam, Hendo, Suarez, Carroll, Downing, Shelvey with youngsters.

Should get enough cash for:

GK (I would choose Vorm)
DM (" Sissoko)
RM/AM (" Ramirez)
CF (Barrios or van Wolfswinkel)

All possibles.

You'd keep Carroll and Henderson? What planet are you on??

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:13:04
This is depressing and a shambolic performance....hang some of these players out to dry publically....Reina just sent off f*** this...f*** this

GuvTOB

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:12:47
Why the hell does KK wait until there is 10 minutes left??

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:12:01
see ya pepe

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:11:43
Time for kenny to go he's out of his depth bring in jose

Jose? Do you mean Jose Mourinho? Get real pal, he's at the biggest club in the world, managing some of the best players in the world, with an unlimited transfer budget, not to mention the huge wage he is getting paid by Madrid. Why on earth would he give all that up to come to LFC? Some people haven't got a clue.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:11:39
What a bunch of toothless b*****ds, sick to death of this rubbish. We're making crap teams like Newcastle look brilliant. Kenny should do the honourable thing and move aside, how much more evidence do we need that this isn't working and I'm not having the usual transition nonsense, other teams have been in transition and still managed to play some good stuff. I can handle getting beat by a good side but we're getting beat by everyone and we can't even play to a decent level anymore.

You see it's arogance like that ,that makes other fans hate you. Newcastle outplayed you today and you showed no passion or desire to win .As for Newcastle being crap ,that would be why they are 6th and been up top all season and your what 11 points below them. grow up fella and get real and a bit of humility wouldn't go amiss either.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:11:27
Christ! We are worse than bloody Evercrap! What an awful season!
Ultra red

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:11:19
A depressing air of inevitability.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:11:11
Things don't seem to be working for whatever reason....down to luck, or lack of confidence?? Nobody knows.....but something needs to give...either Damien Comolli or KK....looking at the way JH runs Red Socks, he fired a coach who had won 2 world series, so winning the League Cup and maybe the FA Cup might not be enough to save DC or KK....just my opinion, would like to hear what the eds and others think

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:11:08
Too late for subs to change the game now dalgleish get out and plz plz plz don't come back

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:10:45
hopefully carrol walked down the tunnel to a waiting cab to take him anywhere else but anfield.

aussiepool tristan

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:09:57
Straight down tunnel Carrol-f him off Kenny

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:09:34
We are so byas now if it was any other manager he would be sack but it kenny itno different kenny made bad signings his mistake he should take responsiblity for his action and go I love the king but fair is fair he should leave

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:09:29
These players arnt arsed. They arnt playing for the Manager that's a deffo.

Spriggo

Why wud they want to play for a clueless manager? Id rather play for woy or big sam.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:09:24
If I here the word progress from Kenny again I'm going to lose it. How have we progressed, The league table is the measure of progress not the Carling cup. we could end up in the bottom half. EDs - would you trust Kenny and Commoli with more transfer funds? El Pistolero {Ed001's Note - it is not the money that bothers me, it is the attitude of the players.}

If we had a decent manager, the attitude of the players wud have been better. Hey ed, dont u think kenny has lost the dressing room? He has tarnished his reputation, n proved alex ferguson was n will always be a better manager than him.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:08:59
Kick there a ses.Heads went down too easy after their 1st

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:08:55
dalglish must resign at the end of this game

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:08:42
I am so disappointed the way Kenny as showed such loyalty in Spearing he's a crab, and not good enough period.We are a mid-table team now and will soon be relegation fodder with that hobbit playing week in week out. {Ed001's Note - and yet he has played better than Gerrard, but you aren't whining about him.}

Sorry Ed I don't think he has played any better.If your'e telling me Spearing is good enough to be our defensive midfielder, then get use to us losing matches.

Get real ed. You know spearing aint good enough for liverpool.

Spearing played better than Gerrard

Yeah that's right in the Twlight Dimension

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:08:35
im really hurting.:((
k-h

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:08:07
Tel 1949,Cozinoz,Waro,Kb-Whats todays if,but,couldve,shouldve?Apologists of KD_WE care more about LFC lads.Much love

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:07:42
Shut the door on yer way out Kenny, oh and take Carroll with you!!

Curled1

Leave kenny alone he's doing his best we're work in progress.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:07:17
Hi eds

Watching he game at the moment two down, 72 mins gone and no sign of a sub!. He is a great legend at the club but he quite simply is not good enough to manage Liverpool. Look at his record and it is very poor indeed. Why play carrageen ahead of Coates. Spearing is not good enough. Oh as I type he does bring a sub on.

Any fan who thinks kenny is the right man are letting their heart rule their head.

I know you love the club kenny so do the right thing and move upstairs before you damage your reputation.

Please post this eds.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:06:40
whoever wants to have a go have a go, but the excuses have got to stop. i have been sticking up for kk for ages now. we are an embarrasment now, it is hurts so much to see again another loss. kk PLEASE LEAVE TONIGHT. you are ruining are club. we are going to finish second half of table this year. its an awful time for liverpool and the fans

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:06:36
Reina isn't trying Enriques early season promise gone Suarez skilful but wasteful Gerard past it Spearing Shelvey not premiership standard Bellamy too old Carroll a flash in the pan even without Kennys wonder signings Henderson Adam Downing we are still appalling to be fair have the same feeling I had before Hodgson went let's lose some more just to get rid of Dalglish and Clarke

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:06:32
Don't worry lads, KD has sent on our saviour - Downing!!!!

FT

We have hope downing and henderson are here to save the day
Looooool

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:05:44
i thik we should all give nto a laughing stock

so hats of to you KK hope you are sacked in the morningKK a round of applause for turning us i

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:05:33
Why wait this long for subs?.......Embarrassing, worst weve played this season.....Maxi, Kuyt and Downing all get picked for their national sides.....but not for us.....strange........and not good enough

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:05:03
Atleast we can't get relegated. Can we? We needed a change ages ago, and the first one is for Newcastle. Kenny, you are making me hate you.

Next year will be our year you can bet on it.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:04:10
Can you make a sub kk?

Tekneek

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:03:52
Get used to this lads. No longer are we a team to be feared, instead we are now a mid table team full of average players. The top 5 are well ahead of us on the pitch and off it.
And why does dalglish hestitate to make substitutions?!!

Seems like he doesn't want to upset his pampered stars?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:02:53
Kenny Dalglish, You were my hero, Now uou are not wanted, Please leave our club right now...Graham

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:02:43
I wonder if we will manage to win a league game from now till the end of this season?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:01:31
Kennys right it will take some hell of a player to do a better job than the ones we have....believe

 

 

01 Apr 2012 15:01:21
The best signing we can make for next season is a new manager, the way Liverpool are after this season is a complete joke.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:59:46
So, so pathetic. "great response" indeed Kenny. Well done! Our only bright spot last week was Sterling, so naturally he isn't in the squad. We look like a scared team. Back to the drawing board all over again. Hopefully it will only take new management and not an entirely new team, but it might.

Big clean out in order.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:59:34
I know a lot of the 'keep the faith' brigade will slaughter me for this, they'll say I should stop supporting the team. But this season, the performances, the suarez evra incident, dalglish's awful handling of the media, the lack of ability shown by our new signings, the conversion rate, this season has been an embarrasment. Our name has been dragged through the mud, we've gone backwards on the field, we scraped a carling cup against cardiff, a competition under benitez we laughed at, we're behind everton in the league, closer to relegation than top 4. United, city, tottenham, arsenal and even chelsea depsite all their problems and newcastle are way a head of us. I knew this season was going to be one of transition but not a transition into mediocracy. I actually don't want us to win the f.a cup, because all that will achieve is to hide our awful performances in the league. Can't see us going anywhere fast. Smithie

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:58:48
No fight...No skill...No passion...No Team and a blind ref... This is pathetic ! Not sure if I can invest anymore money or time into this current team ! 30 years and I just feel deflated. When it's not going your way it just doesn't go your way ! Poor Kenny it takes a lifetime to build a reputation and one single season to ruin it !

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:58:41
That's why Newcastle are above us, take their chances, retain possession, full of ideas, and can finish!.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:58:03
IM SO PEEVED AT THE TEAM TODAY...

BUT why doesnt dalglish change it.........he always waits like 25 mins after a goal before making any changes...
its pointless

its just so backwards
he deserves what he gets...he runs the team..he buys the players and he is in total charge..........thats the whole point and responsibility of the role!

he needs to be sacked ...period.......everton will easily win if the team continues in this way
but dalglish needs to be sacked...........simple

red lobster

Change it how the bench is crap aswell

The most disappointing player for me is gerrard. Looks a shadow of his former self. The team needs a serious kick up the arse. Thanks the kk for stabalising the club but now we need new fresh modern ideas to progress. Kenny should know better than anyone if a player is fit enough to wear the shirt. His signing have been dreadful

Jman

Players not interested and look distant from the manager.... Poor tactics... Poor discipline... Kennys lost control..,

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:57:19
Lfc players attitudes in games = disgraceful apart from suarez only one who's trying

I don't think he's 'trying' more than any of the rest of them, he's just the only one with quality.

-Shane.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:57:02
So difficult to watch this, and its getting worse by the minute.
Cisse vs Carroll, what more can be said.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:56:47
Still half an hour of football to enjoy today .

Bring on the FA Cup semi final , the Final and next season .

Qwerty

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:56:39
heres an april fool for ya, kk to win the league this year,i'm sorry but he's gotta go,and this team needs a total rebuild,shocking outclassed by the toon

 

 

01 apr 2012 14:56:39
got to be major changes endve season!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:55:38
Cisse and partner play on shoulder of last man,ever alert.Ours collect deep and have to beat three men to create chance

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:55:18
Kenny Out Please

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:54:46
wat a fooking joke KK has turned us into, and he aunt even got the balls to change things around he needs to go NOW

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:54:13
you no need £30m to have a top class player. ba and cisse is rocking . kenny u know the door right ?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:53:03
is Kenny wait until FA cup or leave tonight ?

wtf

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:53:03
Are you keep the faith, In KEnny we trust going to be happy when we get F**n relegated. Dalglish has to go , we cant give him any more transfer funds. Our league for this year is a joke. I cant take much more than this, our league form is only better than that of Wolves..

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:52:52
This could get ugly. I see a few red cards coming our way and a good drubbing, ala Tottenham game early in the season. Whatever confidence the players had in Kenny is dead. Nobody on the field has any belief. U din't blame Kenny, but he HAS to go.

I can see the steady progress that KK, Commoli et al have said that the team is making.......unfortunately, it's all been downwards since Christmas (except for cup matches). KK was asked at the start of his tenure if he was worried about spending lots of money with the added pressure it brings & he basically said it's not the money, it's whether the player performs. Sadly it appears that most of the new players are playing no way near the level of their price tag & I think the only solution come the summer will be for KK to move upstairs & Commoli (who is equally to blame) to go. We will see by the calibre of the replacements (managers, staff & players) how serious FSG are about getting Liverpool back to the top because it's likely we will have to pay sickening prices & wages to get anyone half decent to join us when we are languishing between 6th & 10th by the end of the season depending upon the run of luck we have until the end. Somehow we need to find someone with a fresh pair of eyes & ideas to get us back on track. I am a fan of 40 years and even my patience is being stretched.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:52:17
Good job we have more than 40 points....

Adam

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:52:08
its official liverpool, are now s**t. they are not even playing well.
huddz red

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:51:57
Why do we always back off teams when Teams attack against us, look at the 2nd goal

From Dan H

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:51:21
surely kenny has got to go now
i am sorry but 8 points since jan. if hodgson was still in charge we would want him sacked would we not

i love kenny but hes gotta go now

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:51:09
i cant watch them lose again, come on for F's sake...


somethings gotta give
aussiepool tristan

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:50:53
Ive supported Liverpool for 37 years and I can't remember us having such a useless squad of players no passion no commitment low skill Shelvey has been our best player today enough said. I've felt so depressed by our team as I am now. Dalglish has lost the plot and we are a second rate mid table team

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:50:39
Ah for f**k's sake!
They're not even trying anymore.

-Shane.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:50:39
2-0
bye bye Kenny.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:50:38
We played for nothing and we will get nothing

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:49:53
I repeat - get in there Cisse lol

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:49:03
Holy crap we are horrible!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:48:54
I am not a FICKLE FAN i do not like to be negative BUT KENNY HAS DONE MORE HARM THAN GOOD AND DURING THIS TENURE HIS DECISIONS HAVE BEEN BEYOND MORONIC.

He now deserves to be sacked.

TIME TO GO.......

We're work in progress kk will get it right.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:48:12
Gerrard v poor

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:47:56
Get your fookin heads up Redmen!

Two words dalglish out
We looked better than this under Hodgson ffs

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:47:16
Great that by Carrol eh Cozinoz and co

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:44:31
hey lfc fans.......

i agree with some of the posts............
the players look defeated.......and cant be bothered

if they feel like that...no point playing against everton then!

and all this crap about oh we will perform rubbish on the lfc site everyday wont mean anything

They have given up carling cup was the target and it was completed season over in feb

It kinda looks that way to me too mate. If this is the case then it's up to Kenny and the rest of the coaching staff, to f*cking sort it out. IMO Kenny got it wrong today. We know Castle play 4-3-3, we know that Newcastle have defensive problems because of injuries. So why did we play Carroll and Luis together, without any wingers on the pitch to try to wip in crosses?

We should have played 4-4-2 to give us the width, which will bring Andy into the game more. The more I watch our games or see our line-up, it's like being back to the Rafa days. We havnt had a settled starting 11, in the league all season. We play our best 11 in the Cups, hence the reason we are doing well in them.

I said when Hodgson was in charge and results were dire, the buck always stops with the manager. That's no different for Kenny. He's our manager and the buck should stop with him. He picks the team, he buys the players etc, etc, etc.

If these results continue and we get knocked out of the FA Cup. Then I hope Kenny does the right thing for the club, whatever that may be.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:41:16
For me id sell reina and johnson get a good bit of cash and buy a very expensive striker that way outwith transfer budget both arent worth there prices, i mean for me the defence is lost whats happend they cant handle balls in box at all, this is demoralising to see this painful to say newcadtle united will be going 11 points above liverpool wow put it into perspective that is abysmal and simply unacceptable. 43m on the bench not good enough not all to blame kenny commoli is a waste of wages and space hasnt a clue on scouting he is controlling transfers interested to see if players bought were dalglish's judt a thought,

Don't need to buy a very expensive striker, just the right player. Newcastle showing that with Ba and Cisse.

-Shane.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:39:48
lowest position and goals for.For ten years,Well if try and walk it in/or never shoot-will be!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:37:45
If we stay alert-this time!-at the back,and lift our heads(which dropped after goal)we can win this.IF we actually shoot-AGAin no end product to nice approach play.Same old im afraid

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:37:39
Odds on a Liverpool player will be sent off!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:37:23
One minute into second half and we already look beaten.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:35:28
When its going against you it really is.Defo a pen

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:34:51
goal line tecchi would have shown that line stop end of

It wouldnt be used for that, dont be ignorant.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:33:53
Poor first half and once again it seems like anything on target ends up in the back of our net!! Carroll has looked livelier than he's ever looked in a Red shirt mmm! Still no goal though? Will he score? Feel sorry for Gerrard with Spearing in particular ineffective alongside him.
Kuyt and Downing on 2nd half and go for it; any defeat no matter what the score is no points! So go for it!
kidmillions {Ed001's Note - feel sorry for Gerrard? Spearing is having to cover for him, he is sauntering round the field.}

Well said Ed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:33:34
Couldn't remember my Betfair password in time...............left it too late but at 2/1 was gonna bet on Newcastle win.....f***in' gutted!
Was gonna put £50 on the obvious!
Once again, a bit "miffed" by Kenny's decisions!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:32:46
Can't wait for all the positives frim Kenny after the game. Perhaps he should point out that Cisse has twice as many goals as Carroll, in 1/5 the games. Impressive by Cisse. Woeful by Carroll.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:31:29
What a load of rubbish,if this is progress then I can't wait to be watching npower league football next season,as I said weeks ago I can't see a win coming up any time soon,have you seen we have on the bench??!!
Well I hope all you deluded kk fans are happy with him

Are barca Playing today rather watch them than this load of crap

The Liverpool way is dead

RIP

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:30:05
This is embarrassing and very difficult to watch. Ref has been poor but the team have been worse. There is no quality in the team apart from Gerrard and Suarez, who are the only ones capable of anything. If this was any other manager we would all be calling for his head. Personality aside and statistically speaking he is the worst manager we have had in 7/8 years.

FT

Are u even watching Gerrard play? Ambling around doing feckall. Take him off

Then don't watch

Read the post unnamed poster!

I said capable of anything. Gerrard may not be having a great game but he is still class.

FT

Gerrards finished

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:29:41
I really cant believe that decision about the handball by simpson. It was a stonewall penalty and sending off. Yet again we are being done by bad refereeing decisions. We have been by far the better team.

Come on reds lets get justice and win this.

Mighty reds

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:29:26
I wonder how Kenny is feeling right now, and what he is saying to those fools in Red?

C'mon boys, get some magic in the game!

Teez

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:29:07
andy carroll, why cheat? he's a disgrace to our club, it was easier to score

Anyone consider he didn't want to score? As everyone has pointed out....it was easier to score, goes down, gets a pen, he aint nominated taker.....Liverpool may (or may not) score, but Newcastle boy aint scored against his boyhood side....bottled it....despite the grief he took from the home fans

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:28:30
Is it me or can anyone else see the body language of the player doesn't seem right? I'm sure there something wrong in squad gerrard,bellamy,suarez they just don't look they want to be on pitch,
On the other note,if we loose today,Kenny should resign as he can't do more then what he has done and we are becoming a laughing stock,in any workplace if you don't perform you job is under review all the time even if u were once very good with your emplyer that's how the reality is and it should apply,
After reading rafa interview about football and how he use to analyse player fitness and their performances and his reasons for rotation,how he was keeping up with computer technology etc,I'm his one of the best we had and I'm sure his one of the best available we should snap him asap I don't know what the ED's opinion is on this

BRING BACK RAFA BENITEZ...!!

DK LONDON

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:27:28
Newcastle are 2nd to every ball In the middle of the park, we need 4 in midfield to get hold of the ball.
If we lose this then it's 6 out of 7 we've lost. That's not good enough.
Players?manager?

The crowman

We NEED a finisher....a Fowler, an Owen , a Rush , a Torres ....someone who can just put the ball in the net!

KJS

I like carrol and still hold hope that there's more to him than what we've seen but we do need a striker with a footballing brain. There was a moment when shelvey s took it past one and had to have a shot because carrol was standing behind him! There's no movement from the players to create any space.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:26:06
I'm gunna get Realistic right now... We need Torres back this years problems are becuase Torres isnt with us! Yea He is crap and Chelsea and thats becuase Chelsea are'nt Liverpool
Bring him back!
Kenny Stevie Suarez and Torres would be a winning system i swear!
Agree unless your mental in the head

Ill get me jacket (straight one) in that case.

Chuck Norris

Kenny?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:24:19
The decision making in the box is shocking , we need to bring in a new forward coach , team playing well but Gerrard's final ball today is poor and will Pepe ever take command of his box he could have come for that cross just like in Norwich and Arsenal game

The Pepe we know has done a disappearing act like the Nando we knew did. He obv wants to leave.

Now look what the gobs**te has just gone and done. Really hard times for us fans. Something has to be done.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:24:15
Spearing is awful. That's where we are going wrong. Looks like s lost boy out there.

Neil

Hopefully he is watching Tiote...

Chuck Norris

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:23:38
Carroll should have stayed on his feet as it looked that he would scored but,he dived and ruined it for both himself and the team
Bellamy is not fit and it shows by him practically not moving from the right he shouldn't be playing
Come on REDMEN we need to win this or actions must be taken
Bean

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:23:30
Why does Reina no longer punch every ball inside the 6 yard box? He used to do it all the time.
I've also lost count of how many times he is static when a shot or header is made towards our goal. Is it anticipation, fitness or desire that is lacking?

Shelvey looking ok. Spearing playing ok. Carroll playing ok. The rest have got to up their game a notch or 2.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:22:47
At least we are consistent. Haha it's just the norm at this stage.
Hopefully celtics can do better against Miami later

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:22:30
Why wasn't Ben arfa booked for diving in the Liverpool area & why wasn't it shown five times on the replays like carrols???

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:21:47
I think bellamy should be replaced for the second half his touch wasn't great today made so many wrong passes.

Just when Downing has finally found some form and confidence he is dropped... I don't know anymore...

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:19:12
you may not agree but think we need downing and suprisingly enrique looks iffy dont know where he gone

Downing is the only winger we have. Should play LM everygame.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:18:10
There making us look like fools...if carroll scored that then it would have been a different game but you can tell why their above us in the league....

But we can still win come onnn Liverpool

KingMiz

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:15:42
Great opening 20 mins but now been made to look like fools. It's hard to believe that at a club like Liverpool, that spends millions every year on new players and youth set ups, that we have absolutely nobody capable of putting the ball in the net on a regular basis. Shocking!

-Shane.

We do but he plays in the u18 team...
Adam Morgan

We cant expect adam morgan to come and save us hes the future its not fair to do that in the condition we are

If someone like Morgan is good enough, and it's quite obvious that none of the first team players are capable, then why isn't he been given a shot? It's very frustrating.

-Shane.

Isn't it obvious that the entire system seems to be faulty, been so for years now. For all the talk about the academy, the only player from the system ( that's worth mentioning) is Stevie G. Who else have we produced to graduate to first team or to sell on for tidy profit to other clubs? A total teardown and renovate is needed ala Chelsea and City. Although this will rankle the purists, have been a supporter for 30 years now, I don't think there is any other way....

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:13:57
Worst points at this stage for 10 years and worst goal tally for 10 years, if someone says this is progress i'm going to slap you with my glove and challenge you to a duel.

Now lets all calm down and not panic, KK says 'judge me (us) on our points at the end of the season'. So more than 42 but less than 50?

Oh yeah....progress....kippers at dawn !

davinspain

Made me laugh - thank you.

If we equalise, we'll go on to win I think.

Lee YNWA

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:12:04
Liverpool dont look interested, worrying to see that gerrard is showing no emotions when giving the ball away,

He's lost it and only plays when he likes

Gerrard worse player in team today decision makeing is terrible bit like my spelling

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:05:45
For me its same old prOblem nobody in the middle playing on the shoulder. On the other hand for me gerrard is playing wirse than anybody i like the way and carrol is playing i feel he is getting better around the floor that dive the work upto it was sensational i would buy a goalscorer has to be from abroad forget english players not at required level, but keep carrol aswell he is a different asset and is getting better nO matter what people say. The team are not playong very ambitiosly, gerrard is terrible at the moment. {Ed001's Note - more of an issue, where is the Enrique we had at the beginning of the season? We seem to have his twin brother playing now!}

Exactly enrique that played with newcastle three years ago struggling in the championship

I'm sorry but Carroll is getting better?
This first half he has been nothing short of woeful

Chris in Tamworth

I recall KK being dumbfounded that Enrique couldnt get a game for Spain...a wise old bird that Del Bosque.

daveinspain

It's no coincidence that our results have deteriorated since Gerrard came back into the team. He has been brilliant for Liverpool but he has had his day. Newcastle improved by selling the "characters" in the dressing room. Kenny needs to be strong and tell Stevie and Carra that they are finished. If he isn't strong enough then we need a manager who is. It's as simple as that.

Chris, jog on he has made a few good runs and should have scored. yeah he gave the ball away a few time but at least he is trying which is more you can say for Gerrard who doesn't look bothered
Woeful has been the ref for not giving handball and a pen
Bean

Jose has been poor for months, we've had a lot of players in the same boat. Aurelio should come on for him, get some crosses in for Carroll.

RedSG

And where has Gerrard gone! Wow, even Shelvey looks miles ahead of him at present. Shelvey tries to go fwd, Gerrard just seems to be playing Hendo role - pass back/sideways or give away.

Chuck Norris {Ed001's Note - Gerrard has not come back from his injury yet to be fair, but he is playing well within himself, being polite.}

Enrique has looked pretty terrible recently, although from an attacking sense there's no left mid to pass to in front of him, which is why he's constantly running into trouble. I've got a feeling there's a goal in this game for Carroll though, get downing on the left, have him and bellars throw everything into the box, and I think he'll get at least 1. Still in this game, gonna be tough but it was gonna be tough before the game started. Newcastle can fair pass the ball about.

Rugby Parker

Bean, you are a joke, Carroll is a joke and as long as he is our striker Liverpool will be a joke

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:00:46
Torres woulda put most our chances this year away

Lol dont be silly

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:00:41
Carroll has had three golden chances. I know it is all a confidence issue. Perhaps send him for yoga classes.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 14:00:00
Typical of our season this opening 20 minutes, we look good on the ball, create a few chances... then concede.

Quality goal by NUFC, got to hand it to them, it showed what we've lacked all season - a quality final ball (the type Andy Carroll would thrive on) and a clinical finish.

Andy looks better, neat touches, why he dived I don't know, had he stayed on his feet he might have scored... We can still get something out of this game, as we are still creating.

RedSG

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:59:17
are we actually playing without a left winger?

Kaizer

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:56:31
Vintage Pool' again!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:55:07
Can only think Carrol didnt wana score against them.What a dope

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:54:55
does pepe reina ever ever try to save ball. he is s**te. not worth the liverpool shirt anymore.

If you are talking about the goal, Reina was exactly where he needed to be covering the near post. Cisse did exactly what he should have done and put his header across reina to far post. No keeper would have stopped that.

Steve

So what the f*** was rh
eina doing with that 2nd goal. he is useless. get rid of him. look at tim krul save after save, weeks of reina letting them

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:54:38
hit the bar( AGAIN ) should have had a pen and 1 of there players sent off, think Kenny has smashed a mirror whilst walking under a ladder

Waro

While kicking a black cat.

Wher was the pen then ? saw a dive and a shoulder clearance {Ed001's Note - since when has the arm been part of the shoulder? It was his arm, but the ref didn't see it, so he couldn't give it.}

You have got noone but yourselves to blame, if Carroll diddnt try and cheat you would have been a goal up, teams get what they deserve

SHED END {Ed001's Note - so what about Ben Arfa's dive then? Why did he not get booked and why have not got what they deserve? Drogba does it 50 times a match, but I bet you don't whinge at him do you? Go back in your glasshouse.}

Bit high for deffo pen ,but guess thats it if ref dont see he wont give unless certain but there ya go this season all over

Had we got a pen, what are the chances of actually scoring from it? The players have shown they have the ability, maybe they dont seem to have the ambition any more. C'mon lads, pull ya fingers out

Ed001 drogba is often slated on our site for the way he acts, as he should be. Torres was aswell with that miss against man utd. Im going to steer clear of being a smart arse as i can sense your mood.

Melbourne CFC {Ed001's Note - it's fine mate, I was just pointing out that it is the same with every team, you can't suggest that a stupid dive is the reason for our bad luck. If that was so every team would have no luck!}

Everbodies fault but your own, game after game. Carroll had an open goal and chose to cheat. Simple as that im not condoning diving or what Drogba does, Your talking of 'curses' and 'voodoos' and 'smashed mirrors' when basically you just aint good enough

SHED END {Ed001's Note - but that doesn't take into account Ben Arfa not getting booked for diving as well, nor why the ref missed the handball off the line.}

Not at all ed001, but in this game I think that dive is the difference. If you took the lead there it would be a different story. When Newcastle went to Anfield 15 minutes in you knew the game was over, they stopped trying it seemed.

Now it is in reverse, every player with there heads down in a red shirt. Liverpool have been extremely unlucky this year, but some of the blame has to lie with the players. You know that in the PL it is vital you take your chances and make your own luck. Refs are the last people in the world you can rely on to make decent decisions.

Melbourne CFC {Ed001's Note - I don't think that dive made the difference, more of a difference was the ref not booking Ben Arfa for a blatant dive and then booking Carroll for another one. That is why heads drop, when confidence is low and the ref does that, it just makes you think everyone is against you.}

Apalling

I think 001 is spot on with that, most of the players dive, suarez, nani, drogba, ronaldo to name a few, it just depends on how the ref see's it
DJ

Liverpool players use to thrive on knowing everyone was against you ed001. Mental strength of the boys needs to be addressed i think.

Melbourne CFC {Ed001's Note - very much so.}

Im going to refrain from jibes at your fellow reds for a couple days ed, they only have you to thank for this. I like you, you created an amazing site and have more patience then is good for you!

Good luck for the rest of the year mate, i sincerely mean it.

Melbourne CFC {Ed001's Note - we need it!}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:53:57
Do you reckon that as much will be made about thaw handball off the line as when Suarez did it at the world cup? At least the ref got the decision right with a penalty and red card. We have had some cr*p luck this season. Nick.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:53:48
Looking good , then Carrolls swan routine, the inevitable woodwork....then NUFC score. This post has been typed with ever decreasing optimism.

daveinspain

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:53:34
Get in there Cisse lol

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:52:27
Reina looks very sad. No reaction on that goal. Who is surprised we are losing again? 13th next week. No April fools either

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:52:20
Reina no longer seems to anticipate shots from close range

I think Reina will leave at the end of the season. I don't mind actually in the least, he looks half hearted.

Cant blame pepe=going backwards

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:51:07
According to Broadsheet Henry now making us no1 priority,and working through night to make us a success.Newsflash John-LFC ALWAYS our no1 priority.So why werent we yours from the off?!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:50:38
Ok enoughs enough can someone please shoot that voodoo witch that has put a spell on Liverpool... How many times do we have to hit the post or crossbar?

Speeds

As many as it takes to get on target

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:49:27
Liverpool started well carol looks up for it should have scored rather than look for pen.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:47:49
what the hell was carrol up to. it was easier to score

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:47:32
How is it possible to dribble the keeper and then fall Carol must be the stupidest player ever

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:47:05
If we lose or draw coz of what carroll just did I hope kenny gives him a massive smack round the face...

KingMiz

And Cozinoz and co rate him lol lol-we used to have knowegable fans!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:45:38
Absolutely disgraceful from Carroll. A dive that blatent should be a red card not a yellow. Typical Andy Carroll always on the ground, always whinging!

As long as the same applies to Ben Arfa - we're 1-1 for diving for penalties

cozinoz

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:44:09
omfg andy carroll just produced a moment of brilliance and f'd it up!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:43:47
Carroll needs some more work in the pool - this new approach to not losing games won't work with poor dives like that

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:43:04
looks like Carroll has been taking diving lessons. Shame he can't score.

Im sure Gerrard will pull him aside and give him a few tips on how to make it look more convincing.

CT13

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:40:44
Biggest April Fool story has to be most of the Sunday papers including Liverpool when they talk of clubs tracking the likes of Hazard, Strootman etc. Do LFC fans honestly believe Liverpool can still compete for signings with Champion League teams?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:34:07
Carragher again, since agger gas been out weve looked shakey at best on defense, a lot of cheap goals. Need a center back this summer Coates not fully ready.

I'm sure one of the relegated teams will offload a CB that can be picked up cheaply.

I hope your not including Roger Johnson

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:30:23
Carroll to score a hat-trick

one with his knee

one with his shin

one with his fat ar?e

:)

He already skirted an open net to dive and get a yellow instead

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:28:11
Awww come on same old liverpool ... Lack of movement slow play... Take carrol off for kuyt... Sheeeeez man.. Wait .. oh sorry its only pre game warm up.. Sorry All ;-p

Speeds

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:26:01
come on reds lets be positive for the team today...we can win today and we can do well for the remainder of the season...have faith in kenny i think he would be the first to admit he's made mistakes but have faith that he is the manager to take us back up.

Hes brought in youngsters for the future, hes trying to make us a sustainable team not a team who buys the best and then they get old and they're all deadwood.

KingMiz

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:24:56
Well thank God for that- Downing has been dropped for today's game. It is just not his form which has let him down- his decision making in crucial positions is also questionable- he oftens shoots from acute angles when he better option should be to find someone in the box. Shelvey ahead of Henderson also shows a positive intent.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:18:54
Ah well, if you can't beat them, join them. I'm
going for Newcastle to win 4-0 today. The reasons are obvious! Thwy are a team in form, where as we are not, & last but certainly not least! Most Liverpool fans on this forum actually want us to lose as if to prove some point. So there you go! 4-0 Newcastle! Easy

The Irish Rover

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:02:03
I'm well excited about Shelvey getting a game!
Bellamy being back to but droping downing is sad but bellamy is just that little bit better buddy!
Changes from the last couple games needed to happen and im satisfied with the team Kenny has put out today
Agree?

Posivitly Red!

Yes. It's a shame agger and Kelly miss the game though.
But really looking forward to watching shelvey.

MIKEY

Would of been more excited with Coates playing. Any Suarez and Gerrard 1st goal either one I'm a winner.
kidmillions

 

 

01 Apr 2012 13:01:36
Finally Shelvey gets the nod over Henderson. I think this will be a positive move, however, how Downing can be in his "best form" and start on the bench is strange. Would have thought Bellamy would come off the bench. Good luck lads! Especially hoping for a composed game from Flanagan. The only one I am worried about is Carra. He is too slow for Ba and will be pushed around by Cisse. Newcastle will get 3 or 4 with Carra at the back.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:59:49
Newcastle 1 Liverpool 3

I dreamed that exact scoreline!
NextGenRed

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:59:05
Haha, top work from kopsource there.

Stu.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:54:57
So Carroll starts, wonder how many minutes will have gone when I read the first
"Kuyt on for Carroll" post?

At least 90 from me.

MIKEY

Oh dear Carroll.
Goes down too easy under no pressure then dives when no need.
Kuyt on for Carroll please

Chris in Tamworth

I honestly can't see what Kuyt offers, he is so slow it looks like he is not moving and his touch is like Michael Jacksons right hand.

He fell on the ball man! Lmfao

Chuck Norris

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:53:54
Sickve hype Efc,Moyes and Kenwright getting.Especially off Sky.Yea done well of late.But lets stuff them in Semi-Shut them up!

Beat then 3 or 4, that will quieten them down.

Burnsy

It's a good mid-table battle....Sunderland, Everton and Liverpool. All 40+ now so probably safe from the drop

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:53:49
i like that kenny has seemed to listen to the fans with the team selection but hes only gonna completely change it next game and play or of his signings over players doing well. which he has done all season {Ed002's Note - Dalglish does not let the fans pick the team.}

No but hes under pressure and he must have an idea what the fans would like.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:51:51
If Kenny truely believes this squad is good enough to compete next season,and its hard to find better players then weve currently got,as hes quoted saying today.We really are in the S it.And Kennys lost it,big time!

Need 4 players and quality one's:

GK
DM
RM/AM
CF

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:49:36
Arsenal get Podolski.Mancs in for Strootman.What are we doing?

Floudering in 9th?

Melbourne CFC

Keeping it quiet, lke lfc now do.

Keeping ours under wraps like usual maybe?

MIKEY

Not attracting any top names worth getting excited about as LFC are a mid table team....you don't see Sunderland, Norwich or Everton getting press coverage so why should LFC?

If there like recent signings ild be keeping quite too Mikey

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:47:54
Liverpool: Reina, Flanagan, Carragher, Skrtel, Enrique, Gerrard, Spearing, Shelvey, Bellamy, Carroll, Suarez. Subs: Doni, Aurelio, Maxi, Henderson, Coates, Kuyt, Downing.

K.O.B

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:47:11
Ed do you think Rafa will be strongly considered as a replacement for Kenny if FSG decide to change the manager? If not, why? {Ed001's Note - do you really need to waste time asking that?}

Come on Ed1. Explain it to him!!

Lyndon

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:45:36
Bellamy & Shelvey both starting. Good line-up

Singred

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:43:44
1st 11
Reina
Flanno carra skrtel enrique
Spearing gerrard shelvey
Bellas carroll Suarez

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:43:12
riena
flanno syktel carra enrique
spearing
gerrard shelvy bellamy
carroll suarez

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:10:43
Good luck Sami....interim manager of Leverkusen.

GuvTOB

Quote from former Bayer Leverkusen head coach:

"I didn't come to Leverkusen to turn a second-placed team into a fourth- or fifth-placed team."

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:07:51
Hey all
Obviously hoping for a win today but would take a draw with the way results have gone for us.

I Would like to see Carroll start with Suarez.

Im going for a 2-1 Win!

Come on you scousers!

G BOX

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:02:26
all the Kenny supporter lets be honest if any other man in Kenny's place now do u still want him as a manager ? we support Liverpool not Kenny . as Liverpool is bigger then any individual .

rock.

Because Kenny Dalglish is the best man for the LFC job .

Qwerty

Hiding behind the " nobodies bigger than the club" quote

Doesn't make you look any better

Our last 2 games we lost to qpr and wigan.
qpr beat arsenal yesterday, sack wenger?
wigan beat stoke yesterday, sack pulis?

yeah, sod it. sack all the premier league managers week in week out.
s.p

 

 

01 Apr 2012 12:02:25
how do you like it down there at 9th then lads ? wouldn't get used to it though, might not even be top ten next...

 

 

01 Apr 2012 11:58:23
Liverpool will lost today and Kenny on the way out. then only we can win FA cup.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 11:50:48
Hi all,

I may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 31, but I don't believe that Sterling will be with the first team today.

Last week Jordan Ibe replaced Sterling in the reserves when Sterling was with the seniors.

However, yesterday, Jordan Ibe yesterday played for the U18, and the reserves play tomorrow, so it suggests Sterling will be playing with the reserves, otherwise they would be one winger short.

Hopefully i'm wrong as I would love to see another cameo from the young lad.

Burnsy

Wooo, for once i'm right in my prediction, but gutted i am

Burnsy

 

 

01 Apr 2012 11:44:19
Looking forward to todays game.....our front three of cisse, ba and ben arfa

your attacking with gerrard, carroll and suarez.

coupled with agger and collocinni being out means it could be a high scoring game.

The atmosphere will be amazing today, hope both our fans behave and the game could be an absolute classic

Toonfan

Got to agree with this.
I'm going for a high scoring draw today.
Obviously hoping for a win though, we seem to up the tempo for games like this, especially after some horrid results against the lower teams. But that's the Liverpool way. The hard way.

MIKEY

Could be a classic this game today, goals, goals,goals a think 3-3 draw for me, all the best
black and white fan

I think there will be goals today, but it depends on us. If we miss some early chances, our confidence will go to pot.

Liverpool need to score early if we have any chance of winning today. NUFC have some very good players, who have the confidence of a season of good play.

I hope big Andy plays today, maybe playing in familiar surroundings can revive him.

RedSG

 

 

01 Apr 2012 11:22:52
Almost our worst premier league campaign! And still idiots bury their head in the sand and say it is progress! Replace money grabbing Yonks with no money with money grabbing Yonks with no money and still idiots bury their heads in the sand and hail LFCs new responsible owners!

Wake up we are in irreversible decline! I will always support LFC but the powers that be seem to constantly make idiotic decisions. As a result we are no nearer winning the title,probably further away than ever.

You clearly dont understand how business is done in the real world.

Please eds i cant take no more i think the negative mongers need to calm down a bit

gee man {Ed002's Note - Go for a walk, take some time off.}

Even if all that rubbish was true, at least I enjoy watching the team play most of the time, and at least in most games they show some desire to win.
Last season it broke my heart to watch them playing such awful football, and so awfully.
If it bothers you so much, go support another team- which you probably do anyway, right?

Agree with ed.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 11:20:09
I'm actually really worried about the game today. We lose and we are in a whole heap of crap and the same debates will be had again which are fully understandable.
Can't see today being a good day
JBP

We will win

gee man

We will win today.
We play well against big teams
We are due a win
It actually cannot get any worse
Carroll will probably start

Burnsy

Hate to say it but Liverpool will lost.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 10:21:24
hey eds any idea if sterling has traveled today?

thanks {Ed002's Note - No idea at all.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 11:08:44
F**k the cups we loose today make the assistant manager or the scout they would do a better job then Kenny he is the worst manager for 60 years.Any other manager would be sacked

No Name!!

Lyndon

Give your head a wobble you dope!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 10:57:31
Hi All,

This is my view on our players and how they performed this year and projection for next year..

Reina-Hasnt had his best season and a deputy is reuired to push him,sometimes i think on his way out but my heart says no,,possibly big offers from Milan/PSG would come and turn his head,in that case some like Adler,Neuer ideal replacement.

Enrique- Very good and i think looked little tired and i would buy Vragas as deputy nd who could play in wing and give Enrique rest as we have Euorpa leauge next year

Carraghar- Terrible and possibly next season is his last,push hm to coaching,cant do any harm as coach as players would hardly understand him,,big ego

Coates- Possible world class and will defo play more games and we should see his potential next year

Agger-Best CB we have but must be handled carefully and rested (loads depend on how Wilson & Coates play to get him rest nd stay fit)

Skrtel-Best year in LFC colour and must be played in right side CB as perfoms better

Johnson- Possibly sold and if so i would expect Isla/Clyne to be bought,,

Kelly- Must stay injury free and should be natural replacement for Carraghar in CB with backup for RB

Flanagan- Loan hin out he needs to play and develop

Aurolieo- 100% out as hardly plays and Varagas is ideal replacement

Spearing- One question for anyone who thinks Spearing is good, Will be be first team member on any of 19 other PL teams, if answer is 17-18 teams no then he is just squad player at best

Gerrad-Injuries and poor form and he should only be played on Premiership and should be replaced by other on Euopra/Cups by Henderson/Sissoko(SHOULD WE BUY HIM)

Lucas-Played well and expect him to start next season
Adam-Hit and miss and will never work with Spearing and looked much better with Lucas,,got potential and we have seem him do at blackpool so why not with LFC ,he needs to put his head down and do what he does best(set pieces) then trying to do something(Tricks/pace/stamina) which will be hard,must be only used for 60 odd minutes

Henderson- Kenny is ruining him as he is natural CM only and wont settle on wing regardless,Henderson himself needs to work hard as next season is his make or break at LFC

Shelvey- Well underrated and KENNY should play him, i believe he would do better job on wing then Kuyt/Henderson and on holding CM positon better then sideways passer Spearing,,if not given chance i expect him to be loaned and possibly on way our of LFC

Kuyt- Great servent but needs to go,,Matt philips,Ramirez good replacement

Downing- Must be played on Left wing and should be told not to cut in too much as makes him predictable and takes edge way ,Next year make or break

Carroll- Stats show we better when we play him as he attracts defender and makes them worried, Needs to carry on working hard and kenny please start with him,,next year he will be either big hit or fall out with club

Suarez- Carry on playing way he is and put head down,,Defender hates to play against him nd will score/create loads..

Sterling- More time on playing for first team should be given.5 touches/2 chances created agaisnt wigan tells his potential..play him regualr on Euorpa/CUPS with sub on PL

Suso- Again same as Sterling
Robinson-Loan him out to get better and learn trade ..2 years on he should be no 1 of lfc but loads of hard work on his part nd needs to be palyed more

Another youngsters like Morgan/Nacho/Silva/Coady must be laoned to learn trade and get better..we all know Maxi.Cole.Aqua all pretty much as good as gone...Sign another gk,LB/LW,RB,dMC,RW,ST Which with all going outs should only cost us 25 Mill and no addition on wage and we will be where we want to be,,,luck plays part but it fortune only favours brave,,dont feel sorry for ourself and YNWA

Reina - out
Gerrard - out
Carragher - out
Aurelio - out
Kuyt - out
Maxi - out
Spearing - out
Doni - out
Jones - out
Bellamy - out

Promote the youngsters next season and buy:

GK
DM
RM
CF

Lets rebuild with the quality players together with our youngsters everyone raves about.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 10:53:41
Carragher has said Dalglish should be given more time

Completely agree with him, give him the summer to rebuild, and see what happens next season. Everyone knows what happened with Fergie when he started managing United. Have to be patient and wait.

Sadly Doubt if many on here will take notice of him. He's been getting plenty of abuse on here lately!!

Lyndon

Dalgish should be given more time - Carragher should be given less time (or even time then he wouldn't be available for the First Team)!!
Dutchmal

Sorry kenny, but you returned and made a bad thing worse you have set back the clubs recovery ten years! you are an epic failure!

time to go.....

I disagree. I think the two biggest issues with LFC at present are Dalglish and Carragher. Yes, both are legends. But one no longer has the legs for the game, and the other no longer has the mind for it. Both should receive honorary dismissals. Or we can trudge along for a few more years and bask in the glory of a history that is becoming all too distant.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 10:53:40
Went on the anfiled tour last week and the tour guide lad said as he spoke to us when we move to stanley park, anfield will be regenarated. is this proof where moving?

 

 

01 Apr 2012 10:45:18
remember chelsea under Mourinho when they won the league and they played a midfield/attack of


------makalele------essien------
duff--------lampard-------roben
------------Drogba-------------

they had drogba scroring from crosses into the box and he linked ply up well for lampard to get goals.


well if liverpool tried this it might be similar (when all fit)

-------lucas------henderson----
bellamy-----gerrard--------suarez
-------------carroll--------------


would get the best out of carroll with him knocking it down for players running in, bellamy, gerrard and suarez can all interchange positions


what do you think?

ToonFan

Suarez & Bellars aren't wingers tho. They are more than likely to link up with Carroll, not supply him with crosses.

The Irish Rover

I think you mispelled your name at the bottom.

Melbourne CFC

I think that would be the best option we currently have, perhaps with Bellamy being replaced by Gaston Ramirez in the summer and occasionally Downing coming in for Henderson, with Stevie dropping deep and Suarez moving centrally.

The defence when fit will always be GJ, Skrtel, Agger and Enrique.

The other alternative will be a new striker coming in for Carroll and perhaps some more steal in midfield next to Lucas, such as M'Vila (we can dream).

Papa G

Very interesting post. Completely agree

I don't think al of these players have been healthy (or not banned) at same time to see this one. On paper it looks good, but in truth, Suarez doesn't operate so good as a winger. You should probably swap him for Gerrard here (Stevie does play on left for England, so would work....oh right, England are crap).

Melbourne CFC. He never misspelled his name, believe this or not but not all opposing fans are purile,bitter and jealous some are sensible and can discuss football on a mature level.

Try is sometime!

MR EM

Thanks. i wouldnt use them s wingers as such, more have then as forwards either side of carrol. it just gets your best players on the pitch.

and how have i misspelled my name meblourne?

toonfan

Yeah I disagree as well sorry, I like the formation but Bellamy and Suarez can't/won't do the job your asking.

Maybe this will work.

---------Lucas----gerrard-------
New winger---Suarez-----downing
-------------Carroll--------------

I believe this is probably the only way Carroll will end up a success at anfield.
But I could be wrong.
The right winger would have to be pacey, able to beat a defender and have a good cross on him. Currently we only have downing that can do this. Defences can easily set themselves up to defend against this kind of player from one side, if we had 2 players like this it might help delivery from both sides as the defence will have to keep an eye on both wings, we currently offer nothing from the right wing.

MIKEY

Well you have certainly misspelled mine old mate.

Ok Mr EM lets have a 'mature' discussion about football. Bellamy and Suarez while they can be a tricky duo for opponents offer nowhere near as much trickery as robben and duff. They do not have the same pace as either of these wingers when at Chelsea and there finishing is sometimes wayward, whereas both Robben and Duff were considered quiet clinical when playing at Chelsea. Crossing abilities are a world apart also. Suarez is not a wide man by nature, both Duff and Robben were.

Makalele is one of the all time greats of the PL, a player that has yet to be replicated. While I think Lucas definately proved his doubters wrong last year I am far from convinced Lucas is widely considered as world class as Claude was. Both in his ability to track back and break up oppositions moves, as well as link up attacking bursts.

Essien and henderson are in completely different leagues. Although the bison has definately lost some pace and ability since all his injuries, when he was at his prime he was a beast. Henderson I think can become quiet a talent if given time, but I do not think he will ever reach the heights of Michael.

Drogba was the best ST in the world at one point in time. His ability to hold up the play, to create chances for other players, as well as create something out of nothing for himself was incredible. His heading ability was world class. (Search the first goal he ever scored for Chelsea, unbelievable power and accuracy). The way he could get a ball to diviate in the air is only bettered by Cristiano Ronaldo.

While Carroll has shown glimpses of his ability at Liverpool and a real threat in the air at Newcastle, he can not be compared to Drogba off 04-10. Didiers strength against opponents is fair superior as well as his all round game.

Lampard and Gerrard and very similar. I think if Gerrard was 26/7 again he could quiet easily fit this position. Unfortunately both of them have lost some pace and ability.

I am not trying to put down your players, but to compare your squad with Chelsea's in 04/05 is laughable. To consider your team could play the formation Chelsea did back then and succeed to the level Chelsea did, or even to compete for a title is off the mark. IMO

(The very mature) Melbourne CFC

Melbourne CFC. I thought you be Out Celebrating Torres First goal since I last taxed My van. Lucky for you lot I tax It Every 6 months not 12

Lyndon

Lyndon mate there is a time and a place, trying to act like grown ups at the moment.

Melbourne CFC (shakes head in disgust)

Goodluck today though mate, Ill be hoping for a LFC win to be honest, keep Newcastle off our tails.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 10:42:44
Has anyone realised just how important this game is today ? If we lose these next two on the trot we could go as low as 13th... Come on the boys !

I think we will get a draw today, and likely next week. However, after a run of losses, this will be displayed as a small 'victory' by Kenny and co. I actually think every dark cloud has a silver lining, and perhaps a 13th place finish is what we need for owners to take team in a different direction.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 09:57:26
Did Carroll really shave his 'golden locks'?!

Singred

Doubt it where did you here it

LOL It was an April Fools' joke by Kopsource! Singred

 

 

01 Apr 2012 02:22:22
Ed003 ( I feel he is a good scout-type person) or any Ed, if you could choose either luuk de Jong, matias suarez, Jackson Martinez; who would you pick
Let me remind you
1) luuk is dutch and they seem to adapt quickly to the premeir league, he's quick, a good finnisher, strong, and good in the air

2) matias- quick, though maybe weak, makes up for it with his runs, movements and clinicality.

3) Jackson- doesn't play in Europe and still isn't prolific, that just may come down to his service and the quality of players behind him. He's strong, fast, good ball controll, does posses movement intelligence. And just a decent player, he can turn out to be a huge success or a huge failure. {Ed002's Note - De Jong.}

Luuk de Jong may turn out to be another Dirk Kuyt- we need someone prolific- De Jong does not strike me as a player who will score 20 goals a season

Why wasn't my name posted?
It was Georgia red. There anything bad about that? I'm sorry if there
Is

 

 

01 Apr 2012 09:36:36
any news on stadium ed? thanks {Ed002's Note - Nope.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 09:16:52
Everyone has an opinion on LFC due to our position in the EPL. I think that KD camolli and the players are to blame collectively for this showing. LFC owners have done all they needed to do? If they were let down then those who are responsible should face up and leave.

You, my nameless friend , have let the club and the supporters down by showing no support or resilience to our wonderful.
Try taking your own advice....face up and leave this site, because decent supporters cant stand the constant whingeing from no named contributors like you

Tel 1949

Tel the dreamer back after his sulk.Still living a fantasy

 

 

01 Apr 2012 07:38:49
Hi all,
Heard abit of a crazy one there down the fish mongers, apparently J Henry was ripping with Comoli when he found out that Damien was sneaking up to Kenny's window at night and playing subliminal messages about starting Henderson instead of Maxi and it worked.... needless to say Maxi is starting rest of season

 

 

01 Apr 2012 06:27:10
eds, need your answer:
1-is it possible raheem sterling will be in 1st team nxt season as a backup winger.
2- lfc still interested in ryad boudebouz,diego perotti? Or we have other target.
3-Based on current season, is lfc still going after young english player that dont meet xpectation or will owner finally realize and go after international talent?

-dtg'lfc {Ed002's Note - (1) He may be in the first team squad but rememeber he is still a child in the eyes of the FA and there are rules covering the amount of time he can train and his welfare. Perhaps after Christmas you will see more of him. (2) I do not know of any interest from Liverpool. (3) The management team pick the players not the owners.}

Everybody rips Chelsea, where owner Abramovich has too much say in the players they buy. However, they certainly are top 4 every year (and I am not convinced they are out this year...). Perhaps owners should step in here too. Or replace the management team. We have been woeful in 2012. Worse than at our worst under Hodgson.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 08:39:41
Think we are in for a big summer in the market.

Positions that we will strengthen will more the likely be the following..

GK
LB
Wing
DM
AM
ST

We may look for versitility in an AM who plays on the wing. Or a striker who can play either wing, or AM. We definately need another holding midfielder. Spearings ok, but we need to strengthen. Aurelio will almost certainly leave and will also probly be replaced. I would like to see come in

Any decent young Keeper
Any decent back up LB preferably experienced
Hazard (wing/AM)
M'Villa (DM)
Higuain, Cavani or Lewandowski (ST)
Eriksen (AM)

Sell
Aquilani
Cole
Maxi
Adam
Carroll
Pacheco
Aurelio
Spearing

I agree with you, however, all these targets are impossible. Perhaps focus on Eriksen, who will be expensive, but we can offer first team football which Man U, etc. cannot. I would also look to sign another attack minded forward, however, your list is not attainable (Hazard, Higuain and Cavani are never going to play for LFC and we should all forget about them). Lewandowski plays for German champion and is a hero. Why on earth would he leave that for LFC? Lets try and be realistic. Nobody leaves a champion in a big city to go to (potentially) bottom half team. Too risky, unless we could offer him ridiculous money, which we can't.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 08:35:33
Hi ED001,

Do you not think that we have become a little obsessed with this 'players who want to play for lfc' and 'harmony in the dressing room' players. I remember your comments on Tom Ince thinking he was better than he was and wanting more money. Everytime I saw him he looked class down the left but we let him go. Look how well he is doing for Blackpool. I also feel Henderson is preferred to Shelvey as Shelvey has a few attitude probs and Hendo is a 'yes man'. Surely we need to work harder to get problem players with ability to fit in than flog them off somewhere else. Pacheco and Ecclestone also spring to mind.

I watched Blackpool wipe out the Saints the other day and Ince was just as good if not better than Phillips... {Ed001's Note - I think you need to watch it again, with the sound off so you can't hear the commentator verbally masturbating over how great he is, even though every attack that ended up at him broke down. He dallies on the ball too much, tries to do too much and his passing is wayward. He has ability but not the sense to use it, his decision making is woeful.}

See your point Ed, but surely Ince couldn't have done worse than Downing this season? And would of cost nothing.

Surely decision making and the like come with exp, but the lad has ability and I feel we are too quick in moving young players on at times.

Pacheco was a 'lazy trainer'. So what, he is young and needs to be mentored. I also feel we missed a trick with him. Could have been a top player if given a chance imo. What next, Suso has an identity crisis, late for training a few times and we move him on? Just think we have to work with these young lads and have patience.

Would be sad days for lfc if Suso, Sterling, Adorjan, Morgan and co never come through and never even get a decemt crack like many others haven't. Even Amoo, could he really have been worse than Kuyt or Hendo has been at times down the right? Would love your thoughts ed. {Ed001's Note - sorry but decision making is not something you can coach and it is very rarely improved by experience when it is a player of Ince's arrogance. I don't think you realise the difference between youth football and first team football if you think Amoo could have been any use, he simply never made the improvements required to deserve a shot. As for Pacheco, he didn't need mentoring, he needed a kick up the backside, which he has been given. Sometimes you just have to accept a player won't make it with you and for their sake you let them go. It is all very well saying to have patience, but they need to have discipline, by putting up with lazy players, ones who don't make an effort in training, you send out the wrong message to the rest. You have patience with the ones who are willing to learn and try, not the ones who think they have already made it.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 04:24:42
So finally 50 mill paying off....his finish was a delight to watch...we're is our beloved andy carolll?? Tell him to learn how to control the ball.....
"....Form is temperory....But Class is permenant...."

If Kenny actually gave him a run of games with Suarez upfront we would see our Big Andy score and make a few.

Are you still crying over Torres? I wouldn't have him back in a straight swap for Carroll, he's burned his bridges.
If you want to support Torres I'm sure Chelsea would accept you with open arms, feel free to go.

Ashy

 

 

01 Apr 2012 03:38:08
i'm confused, i'm a liverpool fan from london and all my pals talk up and big up luka modric of spurs. the best centre midfielder in london so the saying goes? this a fair call in many in may eyes and many aspects too, modric being so pretty on the eye with the ball at his feet.
but, as a footballing fan the stats suggest different, that's especially true if you dont rate charlie adam?! i agree that since lucas's injury that his(charlie's) form has massively dipped but despite this fact he's head and shoulders above luka and his team mates stats up to this date. charlie adam has covered the most opta stat miles at lfc at 164.4 miles so far this season. shocked? irrelevant, as it's true and scotty parker even struggles to match this. he has also out passed most of his team mates and out tackled most too despite the needless fails. add to that his assists and goals scored ratio this year also beats luka modric on both counts then i sit there and think how bad is he really at £8/9million? chelsea offered £40million for luka last summer for a midfielder that on every count couldn't touch adam's stats from centre midfield(season 2010/2011), this season luka has still not beaten adam either despite a massive dip on 'visual' form for both. so, the question is? is adam that bad or is luka that special? they both played special last year, but adam won the stats. they both were indifferent this year, adam has 'so far' won the stats as well. spurs fans laud modric and would refuse £40million for his talent, lfc fans criticise charlie adam despite his stats making a mockery of modric's for 18/24months and would accept 4/5million for him in this summer coming.....
i'm not saying adam is anything but a premiership midfielder but when you really look at it, it's a funny old game.
food for thought....

Good post. Carroll, Adam, Downing & Hendo don't become bad players overnight. I think where Kenny has got it most wrong this season is settling on a consistent formation and style that suits the players he has brought in. Adam was never decent defensively and must play in a 3 man CM. Carroll can't play pass and move, Hendo can't play RM. Downing should stay LM but spends half the time RM where he cuts inside and is ineffective. Even Gerrard playing so deep amazes me. Confuses the hell outta me.

Chuck Norris

Yes Chuck but Adam wasn't a good player the night before was he

Stats dont always tell the true story

i know its different but when flintoff played cricket for england his presence lifted the team.

He doesn't have the best stats of an england player by a long way but he was a match winner....he effected the game when it really mattered.

Modric does this, Adam doesn't

Toonfan

I disagree. Henderson really did become bad overnight. He was good for Sunderland, signed for LFC, then had a horrible U21 with England (I have no idea how he became captain) and has rarely shown anything but hustle on LFC. Perhaps played out of position yes, but do any of you really see him as our central midfielder? I just don't see the potential here, even recognizing his youth. We should really stick with Lucas and go out and buy an expensive talented player, like Eriksen. It will be the only way forward in my opinion. Adam was always a squad player, nothing more. Kenny likes him because his a Scot I assume.

@toon fan, original poster here.

but luka didn't have that affect on his spurs team mates initially, it's something he's developed over a few seasons. i just highlighting how demanding lfc fans have been on the new arrivals. charlie adam has been far from earth moving in his 1st season playing a role he's far from comfortable in but he's still given the club a massive shift and has continued to beat luka modric's 'significant' stats again this season. just imagine if he settled in a position he was comfortable in and found a bit more form? people keep saying stats don't tell the whole story, it does when things are considered more significant like lionel messi breaking scoring records for fun because he's the world's best player for instance. funny that as christiano ronaldo scored more league goals than him last year and is 1 infront of him this season too! more food for thought that one...

stats don't lie for me, and when lfc fans look back in a few years it'll show kenny won us our 1st of 'maybe' 2 trophies in over half a decade with what is realistically the 6TH strongest squad in the league(not far from where we currently sit).
not a kneejerk fan.

s.p

 

 

01 Apr 2012 01:45:36
Anyone else want sterling to start this next game
Give him the go ahead of henderson

No. I'd like to give him 20 minutes at the end no matter what the score is at the time. He needs to be nurtured into the game not just thrown in to see what he can do.

BthekingB

He is not ready yet mate. Read the posts.

Carroll
Downing Suarez Suso
Spearing Shelvey
Robinson Agger Skrtel Johnson
Doni

Subs: Reina, Coates, Flanno, Adorjan, Gerrard, Hendo, Sterling

He's a similar height and build to Iker Muniain who at just 19 has played over 100 games.
So I think it's time to start giving him minutes on the pitch, only then can you see if he's ready?
kidmillions

The Spanish league is much less physical than the premier league so the amount of games munain has played is irrelevant
NZL_red

I would start him for sure. People talking about the physical nature of the game.....for cripes sake! He's playing a game of footy, not walking through a dangerous neighborhood in Somalia! Wenger takes 'chances' all the time with young, 'delicate' players as do Barcelona. They seem to do just fine. Or even better, they become superstars.

I wasn't expecting soo many people to agree with me lol!

 

 

01 Apr 2012 01:08:49
Eric Banterna your one joke us very annoying and was never funny.. Try think of a new one instead of moving into premier league place and changing the number

 

 

01 Apr 2012 00:56:51
Eds just a quick question:
Do you know how long it has taken john henry to win the world series (baseball) with the Red Sox?

Just want to know it as an indication of how far we may be away of the PL title.

{Ed002's Note - Two years but it will be no indication.}

Great job guys site is best ever t
He also helped end a curse where the red sox didn't win a world series in like 80 years also they compete in same division as the Yankees with their unlimited payroll we are in great hands with these owners they are smart rich and most of all want to win

Hi ED002, saw a thing on John Cena (yes I know) and him saying that although Henry & co have brought them the world series, a lot of fans miss the old way the red sox were. They have been transformed into a Yankees mach2, buying success, raising ticket prices and introducing the plastic flag brigade. Essentially loosing the identity they had and connection with the avg man in the street. What are your thoughts? Do you think lfc will end up like chelsea? {Ed002's Note - I don't think that Liverpool will have anything like the cash injection provided by Mr Abramovich nor the on going financial support he provides for the club. FSG are not as strong financially but they are responsible owners looking for the club to be self sufficient - remember it is an investment to them. At present Liverpool is costing them a lot of money to run - a lot more than they anticipated. The Red Sox cannot be compared to Liverpool at all so I would not get too concerned about Cena's comments.}

Not all Red Sox fans feel this way. Some feel instant success (and increased ticket prices) has lost the connection to the true fans and changed their philosophy. Food for thought.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 00:49:26
EDS do you know who Martin Lipton is,is he a reliable source? {Ed001's Note - if it's the Mirror journo, then no, not really, that's why he works for a tabloid rather than a broadsheet.}

Martin Lipton is the lazy journo that replied to me on twitter that 'it wasnt his job to print the truth'.. it was his job to 'find the headline'..
So, IMO the mans a waste of space as a credible source.
ItsNotRocketScience

 

 

01 Apr 2012 00:35:36
Ed,

Some analysis :

I was thinking of some midfielders who have a high chance of moving this summer.

Sneidjer - has been inching for a move for long time
Hamsik - spent too long in Napoli..may look to move
MVilla - looks like he may move
Hazard - will move this summer
Eriksen - unlikely but u never know
Martinez - depends on what happens to Llorente
Modric - we may not get him but he will move
Kaka - we will not get him but he will move
Sissoko - may move from Tolouse

I know you may feel that we have less chances for any of them but I do feel we may get one of these players this summer especially as our opponents for all players except Kaka will be EPL clubs....

I havent included players from Bundesliga as I dont expect the clubs there to sell the likes of Kagawa, Goetze, Kroos, Scweinsteiger eyc.....

Barca and Madrid midfields are already packed...

Paris St German already have Pastore and Matuidi....so any new recruit looks difficult with Motta, Siissoko, Menez,etc....

I believe we have a real chance with one of these players this windows....

Your thoughts?

LiverBird
{Ed001's Note - wages are a major issue, for instance Kaka was the highest paid player in the world before Ronaldo signed for Madrid. Sneijder was asking for 250k and bonuses and use of a private jet to move to the UK. That immediately rules those two out.}

Sorry,

I forgot to mention it.

What I meant was if Chelsea, ManU and Man City went for the likes of Modric, Hazard, Sneidjer and Kaka, we may have a very good chance with MVilla, Sissoko, Eriksen and Hamsik.

I do agree that Martinez will be very costly especially as Bilbao are one of the clubs in Spain who are well off and only play Basque players. So selling a player will be for reasons other than financial reasons....

LiverBird {Ed001's Note - Eriksen is unlikely, he is looking to move to Spain.}

The only 1 we might get is Sissoko, and we should have bought him instead of Henderson.

Chuck Norris

 

 

01 Apr 2012 00:18:39
Hey eds,
Any idea of interest in narsingh, schelotto,albrighton,zaha,redmond...all wingers ofcourse!
On a side note...while everyone talking about sterling..how about SUSO... Hes mature beyond his years (mentally and physically) and he plays very well on the right of midfield...just what we need! Why isnt he playing first team?
Are we gonna see him at least next season? {Ed002's Note - There seems to be no obvious interest in any of your random list of players. I suspect Suso will get a chance when the coaching staff think the time right - and as you say much is expected of him.}

 

 

01 Apr 2012 00:15:08
Ed,

Realistically, can we fill an 80000 or 90000 capacity stadium?

Or to rephrase, what is the capacity that Liverpool can expect to fill every week?

LiverBird {Ed001's Note - on current demand, yes we can. Depends on ticket pricing, financial climates etc, but yes they do expect to be able to fill a stadium in excess of 60k without problem.}

Is 80K or 90k realistic.
Even Barca and Real Madrid fail to fill their stadiums week in and week out.
Considering that Barcelona and Madrid are far larger cities than Liverpool, are we not 'over estimating' potential attendances.
Surely 65-70k is more in keeping with a city the size of Liverpool.
Consider average crowds at the bigger European clubs, and it shows variances of 10-20% from capacity.
Granted, in the North of England large crowds are needed (economically speaking) to generate similair revenues to that earned by London clubs, but surely long term sustainability is more important.

 

 

01 Apr 2012 00:04:00
Andy Carroll has said he won't celebrate a goal against Newcastle tomorrow.... Same as every other game then, Andy!

Don't get it - he celebrated 9 times this season

Who said he's in the team?

Hasnt scored 9

 

 

 
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