Liverpool Banter Archive February 01 2011

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01 Feb 2011 23:36:42

Ed just a question because I was watching the real madrid game against osasuna that they lost the commentator said Alonso and mourinho are not on good terms do you think it is futile to bring him over with KK in charge with other world class players in the summer, worth a try.?

hibsylfc

{Editor Note: No mate, I think we should just target someone younger and try to build a young, vibrant team who can help us progress.}

01 Feb 2011 23:35:30

Team for stoke tomorrow:

Reina
Johnson Carragher Agger Aurelio
Meireles Lucas
J.Cole Gerrard Kuyt
Suarez

01 Feb 2011 23:28:31
A lot of talented keepers out there we could replace Reina with:

De Gea
Lloris
Nueur
Asenjo
Outside chance: Stockdale? ?

01 Feb 2011 23:28:27

I meant to say Reina has been a couple of times captain.thankyou

hibsy lfc

01 Feb 2011 23:25:03
Make a song for Reina please let him know we still respect and love him, he has been loyal. Hopefully now with Mr.attitude gone from the dressing room and we have the brightness of Suarez around and the aerial threat from carroll we are going to climb up into cl spot.KK on lfc tv just said the owners were very supportive and he thanked them so please let us all pull in the same direction and let the owners know we appreciate what they are doing for our club, we will then be given money as KK has also said will be given to spend. We have all learned to be wary after the rotten previous owners treated us the way they did, but NESV have supported KK and did what the fans wanted which was to bring him in and also made money available for our club to invest to whoever KK wanted .So support at tomorrows game please to the team , KK, and NESV.ed what is your take?

hibsylfc

{Editor Note: Reina knows we all love him. And I think we should support the owners fully - they have invested money in our club and have spent this window, despite doubts from people.}

01 Feb 2011 23:23:14
I just remembered my brother has an El Nino tattoo on his back. lol

Blair Mayne YNWA

Sucks to be him :)
Doesn't Torres have a YNWA tattoo on his arm?
Sucks to be him too i guess if so.
Irish Kev.

01 Feb 2011 23:18:40
As much as I find Andy Carroll's well documented off-field activities utterly distasteful, in terms of pure footballing ability, I have to confess that his talent is potentially immense.

Having watched him play this season, there are times, as demonstrated against us, when he is almost unplayable. Kyrgiakos, arguably our best defensive header, barely got a look in and the other defenders were forced to resort to fouling him on more than one occasion. And it wasn't just against us, as he single handedly destroyed Sunderland and gave the Man Utd defence an absolutely torrid time. He is unbelievably strong, far more mobile and pacy than some posters on here have suggested and his movement off the ball is very impressive. He is certainly more than just a 'hold up' type of centre forward and the power in his left foot is reminiscent of Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink at his best.

Brian Reade described him as Duncan Ferguson with a ponytail and a previous poster suggested he is the best header of a ball in the premiership. I would go further and say he is probably the best header of a ball in the world! Can you name anyone better? Edin Djeko. .no! Christiano Ronaldo. .maybe!
Yes, it is certainly a huge sum to have paid, he still has much to prove, not least in his private life and there is undoubtedly a risk. But there is an obvious reason why he was held in such high regard in Newcastle [in footballing terms] and why Commoli and KK were prepared to invest that amount of money. Alongside Suarez, who can be described as a slightly taller and faster Tevez, we could have gained a strike partnership capable of tearing opposing defences to shreds.
Hopefully Summer will see us focus upon bringing in one or two quality wingers capable both of pulling defenders out of position and delivering accurate crosses. Any of Alexis Sanchez; Edin Hazard; Arda Turan or Marko Marin would be ideal.

P.S. Whilst I agree with the poster who stated that Liverpool and Man U will be the greatest beneficiaries of the 'financial fair play' ruling, I would also add Arsenal to that list. Although their worldwide fan base is well behind the other two, their overall net income is substantial. Man City and Chelsea, meanwhile, could potentially be the biggest losers. It must be remembered, however, that the only sanction is exclusion from European competition and some clubs may be prepared to run that risk in pursuit of a Premier League title.

The Shoe Shine Boy

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Just in relation to your first sentence, please do not believe all you read in the papers!
I know a reasonably well known celeb sports athlete in Ireland (will not name him / her as i value my life thanks) but the local press some of whom know him / her on a one to one level & their family have made up front page stuff on them before just to sell papers. It's their job! They (the press) actually rang me at my work one day to ask me something innocent sounding to do with him / her because they knew i was friendly with him / her but twisted it completely to make him / her out to be nasty. Couldn't believe it when i read it myself.
And this is only a local town / city newspaper, so imagine how a national & international paper works to sell their quotas. Don't believe at least half of what you read!
I'm sure some is true, but nowhere 100%.
K.

01 Feb 2011 23:17:25

Fantastic buisness by the red men. Not only have we signed two quality front men for 2 million.
Torres 50 million. Babel 6 million. Gone

Suarez 23 Million Carrol 35 million. Signed

We have created a brand new strike force which we havnt had for years. We have also saved on our crippling wage bill. Suarez is on far less than Babel was on and Carrol is on less than Torres was. So both have signed five year contracts probably saving another 10 mill in wages over the next five years, If we had kept Torres. So in the summer releasing more funds. Sign Adam Johnson he wall fall down pecking order now he is injured especially if Man City do well without him. Also sign Ashley Young. The rebuilding has begun. Well done red men.

01 Feb 2011 23:40:22

Reina will be here for a long. long time - he will be the next captain of this club!
I would be devasted if he left as he has consistently been our best player over the past 2 years.
RedSG

01 Feb 2011 23:28:31
A lot of talented keepers out there we could replace Reina with:

De Gea
Lloris
Nueur
Asenjo
Outside chance: Stockdale? ?

01 Feb 2011 23:28:27

I meant to say Reina has been a couple of times captain.thankyou

hibsy lfc

01 Feb 2011 23:25:03
Make a song for Reina please let him know we still respect and love him, he has been loyal. Hopefully now with Mr.attitude gone from the dressing room and we have the brightness of Suarez around and the aerial threat from carroll we are going to climb up into cl spot.KK on lfc tv just said the owners were very supportive and he thanked them so please let us all pull in the same direction and let the owners know we appreciate what they are doing for our club, we will then be given money as KK has also said will be given to spend. We have all learned to be wary after the rotten previous owners treated us the way they did, but NESV have supported KK and did what the fans wanted which was to bring him in and also made money available for our club to invest to whoever KK wanted .So support at tomorrows game please to the team , KK, and NESV.ed what is your take?

hibsylfc {ed's note - Reina is my favourite player personally, fantastic for us for years now.}

01 Feb 2011 23:06:29
01 Feb 2011 22:33:58
If this reina rumour is true ill b gutted even more than losing torres esp if he moves to arsenal hopefully he will change his mind by the summer with NESV and kenny in charge! Wt you think about this ed? U got anymore news macca?

Big Si

{Editor Note: I hope Reina doesn't leave but he'd cost atleast £20m.}

I would demand at least £35m for reina from either man utd or arsenal while letting him go a bit cheaper if he wants to go back to spain. Best goal keeper in the world by a f***ing mile. If he was to go i wudnt mind us goin for smithies of huddlesfield young english and cheap cud have huge potential something NESV like

Big Si

if torres was worth 50mill then reina is worth miles more, he has been r best player by far consistently

01 Feb 2011 23:10:40

If reina goes what about that keeper from lyon lloris is it what you think ed

DARCY YNWA

{Editor Note: I'm not convinced about him personally, any time I've seen him he is shakey and tends to make mistakes. I would take Shay Given from Man City - he would be a cheaper solution and would enable us to invest in other positions.}

01 Feb 2011 23:05:47
Question for people would you rather manuer win the league and get it over with or see torres get a winners medal
manu bel chelsea un bel

01 Feb 2011 23:04:02

Your supose to be editors, your just a f***ing joke promising minimum of 3 signings. we had one injured person and one foreigner. And you blame it on Andy Carroll. Get you facts right, your like SSN

to the kn. who wrote this we did sign 3 players actually 4 but 1 on loan look at ssn u fu. . g p. .k get ur facts write b4 you havea go at sum 1 crnt stand people like you who think they know it all
great site by the way ed an brilliant job over busy period*(please post o rumours)
saurez 7
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And don't forget mate we had a 20 mill bid turned down for Micah Richards.

Blair Mayne YNWA

01 Feb 2011 23:02:33
I was delighted when harry redknapp was left with an egg on his face trying to sign Adam. He didn't even want him, that was just to take p**s out of lfc. I had a lot of respect for harry, but this season he has been talking out of his a**e, so no respect. it would have been all over ssn that lfc had been gasumped by this son of the b***h.

kopking

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Absolutely agree 100%, served the p***k right.
Shows how jealous Spurts are of us eh?!
Ha ha!
Irish Kev.

01 Feb 2011 23:02:21

For me we need
lb
2 wingers
centre defender
poss another striker in summers for when one of the 2 are injured
for me it would be
baines of everton
shawcroft of stoke
albrighton villa
adam johnson mancity
charlie adam would be a good signing for centre mid.
striker the french lad at madrid would be good
then i think we have a titel winning team
what ya think ed

{Editor Note: I think we need a centre-back, left-back, creative midfielder and a winger. My choice would be Richards, Santon, Martinez/Banega and Turan/Mata.}

01 Feb 2011 23:02:02

Hi Ed's - it's shents.
Just a note of thanks to Ed's for posting my comments and providing your thoughts on the subject.

Having read Ed's comments - I re-read the rule paragraph and I bow to your wisdom. (and Master's in English :-)
My error was reading Uefa Club competions as UEFA Cup - (I know - what a person :-) )

Thanks again guys. Keep up the good work and don't let the mindless fools who slate Ed's get to you - the rest of us appreciate you efforts.

Shents.

01 Feb 2011 22:59:30
A few months ago I posted that we would lose Torres, Reina, Mascherano after Benitez left and one of the eds slated me. Unfortunately, it's coming true.

{Editor Note: Didn't know Reina had left. Torres and Mascherano's futures had nothing to do with Rafa Benitez leaving at all.}

01 Feb 2011 22:58:31

Well done to the eds over the last few days, difficult to keep the site ticking over with all the madness. It seems that seeing as they will both have just 12 months left to run on their contracts in the summer, that Ashley Young and Charlie Adam may be subject to bids from Liverpool, as their respective clubs know that they are unlikely to sign new deals. Rumours suggest that we were juggling a lot of deals going into the last few days of the window but the Torres situation meant that not all of them were secured. Definitely expect a left back in the summer, perhaps a centre back (not an immediate priority) and a winger, maybe two. We've all heard of interest in Marveaux, but Gervinho, Hazard and Turan may also be targeted. Would love Aguero but not sure what his new contract entails clause-wise. (There were apparently tax issues with the old one.) I'll round this long post off by suggesting that we should look at Neven Subotic, excellent young defender (given his age I wouldn't be surprised if he was on our radar) that has apparently got a clause in his contract allowing him to leave for 20 million euros. Ed, what do you think of Subotic/ any knowledge on his contract?

Rush

{Editor Note: Subotic has been getting a lot of praise and rep for his performances, but I haven't seen him play. And I think he's going to sign a new deal.}

01 Feb 2011 22:51:43

Ed wiv all thoughts turning to the stoke game wiv them being such a physical side. if im not mistaken we do still have jovanovic then i would play 4-4-1-1

starting line up

. . . . . . . . . . . . REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

KELLY. . . . SKRTEL. . . .AGGER. . . .AURELLIO.

JOHNSON. .GERRARD. .MEIRELES. .COLE. . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . .SUAREZ. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . .JOVANOVIC. . . . . . . . .

if we don't play this team the maybe a 4-3-3-

. . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . .

KELLY. . . .SKRTEL. .AGGER. . JOHNSON. . .

. . . . .GERRARD. .LUCAS. . MEIRELES. . . . .

. . . . .SUAREZ. . . KUYT. . . PACHECO/ JOVANOVIC

wat do you think ed?? ? ?

in summer we need to go and buy

SUMMER INS

CISSOKHO-10M/ TAIWO-free
RICHARDS-20M(hg)
SAKHO-12M
BENEGA-10M/ ADAM-10M
HONDA-12M/ HAZZARD-22M

TOTAL-74M APPROX

SUMMER OUTS

SOTO-1M
SKRTEL-6M
AURELLIO-0.5M
INSUA-4M
JOVANOVIC-5M
COLE-6M
POULSON-2M
KONCHESKI-2M
KUYT-8M
AQUALANI-14M
JOHNSON-15M
DEADWOOD-10M

TOTAL- 74.5M APPROX

WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME IN ED?? ??

{Editor Note: I would play the second line-up you mentioned. With Pacheco instead of Jovanovic. And I would like Mata, Martinez/Banega, Richards and Santon to come in.}

01 Feb 2011 23:02:33
I was delighted when harry redknapp was left with an egg on his face trying to sign Adam. He didn't even want him, that was just to take p**s out of lfc. I had a lot of respect for harry, but this season he has been talking out of his a**e, so no respect. it would have been all over ssn that lfc had been gasumped by this son of the b***h.

kopking

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Absolutely agree 100%, served the pri(k right.
Shows how jealous Spurts are of us eh?!
Ha ha!
Irish Kev.

01 Feb 2011 22:59:30
A few months ago I posted that we would lose Torres, Reina, Mascherano after Benitez left and one of the eds slated me. Unfortunately, it's coming true. {ed's note - Torres and Mash were both leaving regardless of Rafa staying or going.}

01 Feb 2011 22:54:35

Ed I think if we buy Honda, Turan, mata, coentrao( I think maybe meireles can persuade him), Adam, I personally like Mata the most along with Honda but I gave a few names just incase one or the other was not possible to bring over. Oh and Lukaku! what do you think ed? I think the success of Fergie has been his bench players are close to the level of the first 11.thanks

hibsylfc {ed's note - I don't think there is any need to add more than 3 or 4 players. I would rather we gave players like Suso more chances.}

01 Feb 2011 22:51:43

Ed wiv all thoughts turning to the stoke game wiv them being such a physical side. if im not mistaken we do still have jovanovic then i would play 4-4-1-1

starting line up

. . . . . . . . . . . . REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

KELLY. . . . SKRTEL. . . .AGGER. . . .AURELLIO.

JOHNSON. .GERRARD. .MEIRELES. .COLE. . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . .SUAREZ. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . .JOVANOVIC. . . . . . . . .

if we don't play this team the maybe a 4-3-3-

. . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . .

KELLY. . . .SKRTEL. .AGGER. . JOHNSON. . .

. . . . .GERRARD. .LUCAS. . MEIRELES. . . . .

. . . . .SUAREZ. . . KUYT. . . PACHECO/ JOVANOVIC

wat do you think ed?? ? ?

in summer we need to go and buy

SUMMER INS

CISSOKHO-10M/ TAIWO-free
RICHARDS-20M(hg)
SAKHO-12M
BENEGA-10M/ ADAM-10M
HONDA-12M/ HAZZARD-22M

TOTAL-74M APPROX

SUMMER OUTS

SOTO-1M
SKRTEL-6M
AURELLIO-0.5M
INSUA-4M
JOVANOVIC-5M
COLE-6M
POULSON-2M
KONCHESKI-2M
KUYT-8M
AQUALANI-14M
JOHNSON-15M
DEADWOOD-10M

TOTAL- 74.5M APPROX

WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME IN ED?? ?? {ed's note - I have seen nothing in Jovanovic to see any reason to give him a game.}

01 Feb 2011 22:38:14

With you ed, a winger and a lb, can kelly cover at cb if required? what your views in the central mid, if gerrard was to be injured next season or suspended, should'nt we think about bit of quality there and off load a few, we should have the funds, also don't we have cash coming from juve for aquilani to come in the summer,

i would be hoping for 4 players of quality my self come the summer

what you think ed, on these points

phil - belfast

{Editor Note: I would have Kelly has first-choice right-back. I think he's earned it. And Danny Wilson as cover at the back. And I think Meireles on form is more than capable of filling in for Gerrard. A Xabi Alonso type player is what I believe we should go for. With Banega and Javi Martinez being my favoured options.}

01 Feb 2011 22:38:03
Keep hearing people talking about Pepe going. Any logical reason for this or just people's paranoia?
EyeSak

01 Feb 2011 22:37:41
Ed I just don't see reina doing what torres did because he has been a couple of times and he is the one that always sorted things out for the new foreign players when they came in.He genuinely cares and he never sulks and drives the team forward.Plus he could have done a runner now with selfish torres all he had to do was put a transfer request in. So I can't see that coming but if you all remember every transfer window we always had clubs after torres because he obviously was open to offers there is no smoke without fire.

hibsylfc

01 Feb 2011 22:37:10

01 Feb 2011 22:23:49

Hi ed why do you think we could not get young now and what will change in the summer in regards his availability? and who do you think we should buy? thankyou

hibsylfc {ed's note - Villa will buy again in the summer and they know Young is unlikely to sign a new contract to stay there. Personally I think we just need a left back and a couple of wingers in the summer. What about you mate?}

id like us to get a lb glen johnson has done really well since hes been over there, but i know hes not permanent there, so yeah lb and 2 wingers and maybe replace poulsen and lucas with better mids and a centre back i think we need to improve r centre backs cos skrtel and the greek rnt good enough

01 Feb 2011 22:50:53

Hi ed
where do you think we will finish now in the table
i think 5th. think 4th is just a little too much to ask for. if we had about 5 or 6 points more i think we could of got 4th but just too much to ask so 5th i think

what you think ed {ed's note - I do think we will be pushing for 4th.}

01 Feb 2011 22:49:26
Don't be surprised if reina leaves end if season.the team he wants to leave for? Arsenal.mark my words he wants to play for them.Tell them ed.

{Editor Note: Would Scrooge/ Wenger match our valuation for Reina? I doubt it.}

If we can hang onto Reina for another 2 - 3 seasons maybe we can do a player plus cash swap for Aguero then?!
Reina wants to one day play for Athletico to emulate his father as most of us know so when that time comes maybe Aguero will want to come to us too as part of the deal. Or swap for De Gea if he is still playing well & Manure haven't gotten their filthy hands on him by then.
Just a thought.
Irish Kev

01 Feb 2011 22:46:09
I just remembered my brother has an El Nino tattoo on his back. lol

Blair Mayne YNWA

01 Feb 2011 22:43:02
In reply to the two paragraghs conflicting each other maybe i worded it wrong but i was trying to say was that it was discreet quick and done. The fact that we don't know if there was bids for young and richards made at all proves this. This time last year it would be all over the papers two weeks ago and we still would not have got them its going back to the liverpool way.

01 Feb 2011 22:39:37
Hi Ed, Is there any truth is the speculation about Reina, is he the next one to walk?
Great site {ed's note - hard to be sure, he was happy, but then Torres said he was happy to wait until the summer.}

01 Feb 2011 22:38:03
Keep hearing people talking about Pepe going. Any logical reason for this or just people's paranoia?
EyeSak

01 Feb 2011 22:34:40
As much as I find Andy Carroll's well documented off-field activities utterly distasteful, in terms of pure footballing ability, I have to confess that his talent is potentially immense.

Having watched him play this season, there are times, as demonstrated against us, when he is almost unplayable. Kyrgiakos, arguably our best defensive header, barely got a look in and the other defenders were forced to resort to fouling him on more than one occasion. And it wasn't just against us, as he single handedly destroyed Sunderland and gave the Man Utd defence an absolutely torrid time. He is unbelievably strong, far more mobile and pacy than some posters on here have suggested and his movement off the ball is very impressive. He is certainly more than just a 'hold up' type of centre forward and the power in his left foot is reminiscent of Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink at his best.

Brian Reade described him as Duncan Ferguson with a ponytail and a previous poster suggested he is the best header of a ball in the premiership. I would go further and say he is probably the best header of a ball in the world! Can you name anyone better? Edin Djeko. .no! Christiano Ronaldo. .maybe!
Yes, it is certainly a huge sum to have paid, he still has much to prove, not least in his private life and there is undoubtedly a risk. But there is an obvious reason why he was held in such high regard in Newcastle [in footballing terms] and why Commoli and KK were prepared to invest that amount of money. Alongside Suarez, who can be described as a slightly taller and faster Tevez, we could have gained a strike partnership capable of tearing opposing defences to shreds.
Hopefully Summer will see us focus upon bringing in one or two quality wingers capable both of pulling defenders out of position and delivering accurate crosses. Any of Alexis Sanchez; Edin Hazard; Arda Turan or Marko Marin would be ideal.

P.S. Whilst I agree with the poster who stated that Liverpool and Man U will be the greatest beneficiaries of the 'financial fair play' ruling, I would also add Arsenal to that list. Although their worldwide fan base is well behind the other two, their overall net income is substantial. Man City and Chelsea, meanwhile, could potentially be the biggest losers. It must be remembered, however, that the only sanction is exclusion from European competition and some clubs may be prepared to run that risk in pursuit of a Premier League title.

The Shoe Shine Boy

01 Feb 2011 22:33:58
If this reina rumour is true ill b gutted even more than losing torres esp if he moves to arsenal hopefully he will change his mind by the summer with NESV and kenny in charge! Wt you think about this ed? U got anymore news macca?

Big Si

{Editor Note: I hope Reina doesn't leave but he'd cost atleast £20m.}

I would demand at least £35m for reina from either man utd or arsenal while letting him go a bit cheaper if he wants to go back to spain. Best goal keeper in the world by a f***ing mile. If he was to go i wudnt mind us goin for smithies of huddlesfield young english and cheap cud have huge potential something NESV like

Big Si

01 Feb 2011 22:28:22

Ed was that the real macca that posted about benzema

{Editor Note: Yes.}

01 Feb 2011 22:27:35

Ed Suarez has not played for a few weeks been banned will he be match fit and will he even start , i think we will have to wait a few weeks to see the best of him what do you think

{Editor Note: He will have been training during his ban and played a practice game against Galatasaray recently. I would hope his fitness is pretty good.}

01 Feb 2011 22:20:27
Ed, do you think Roman bought FT because he wanted him as he did with Shevchenko.Wont they have to change their formation to suit him.?Things looking better for us than they did 4 weeks ago.

{Editor Note: Either they change to a diamond 4-4-2 or a regular 4-4-2 - which Chelsea players don't like playing, or they play Drogba wide right in which case he'll sulk and moan. Then Torres will have to play wide right and he'll not be as effective and he might get unhappy. A lot to work on for Carlo.}

they have 3 big egos there, gunna be tough keeping all 3 happy altho they could go for 4-3-3

01 Feb 2011 22:19:37
Losing reina would be a huge blow to us but he would easily cost someone 25 mill if this was to happen I would go for alan mcgregor of rangers you would probably get him for 6 mill hes a very good keeper and ruminate to be a target for fergie what do you think ed?

{Editor Note: I would refuse to sell to Man Utd for any price. I would hope Reina had more respect for us than to go there.}

01 Feb 2011 22:14:54
All the gossip about the owners having to spend the Torres money are incorrect. I have it on good grounds that Liverpool have approx 70m for summer signings and will be looking at signing Young, Adam, and Benzema. We are also looking at strengthening other areas but I have not been told of any other players coming in. We put a bid in for Young for 18m but it got rejected and told to come back in the summer.

The bad news is Reina also wants out, he will be gone in the summer. He isn't enjoying life with LFC and is very annoyed that he can't have his own trainer. I am more gutted about this news than Torres going. Just hope it isn't to the gobsh***s up the M62.

I have this news from a very reliable person who knows an ex-player who was involved in the Torres transfer, not hard to work out. He told me about the Torres deal weeks ago, he had his head turned in the summer by Chelsea.

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Spot on.

Not as sure on Reina yet though.

Macca

If this reina rumour is true ill b gutted even more than losing torres esp if he moves to arsenal hopefully he will change his mind by the summer with NESV and kenny in charge! Wt you think about this ed? U got anymore news macca?

Big Si

{Editor Note: I hope Reina doesn't leave but he'd cost atleast £20m.}

01 Feb 2011 22:12:05

I hope Torres plays on Sunday and I hope Carragher steams into him and puts him out for the rest of the season, that would teach the moody, lazy git. Why has he gone to Chelsea, a club with no history, s**t plastic fans. I'm not bitter, it feels like I've been betrayed by a friend. On a positive note I reckon that given time the Carroll Suarez partnership will work, they can only inprove as Liverpool players. Ed, what di you think re: the Suarez and Carroll partnership?

{Editor Note: They both have a lot to prove, I hope they can produce the goods.}

01 Feb 2011 22:10:42
So the great torres has signed for a big club!this boy seems to have forgot how much the biggest club in the world done for him!i used to have so much admiration for him but everything he has done said and acted has sickened me!who does he think he is!and as kevin keegan once said i will love it if we beat them! !ed do you think the players will shake his hand?i would do a wayne bridge

{Editor Note: They'll shake his hand. I would hope that our players are more concerned about getting a result against Chelsea than Fernando Torres leaving.}

01 Feb 2011 22:08:17

Just a quick reminder to everyone cuz i havent seen ne1 mention this but thank f*** tht london p***k konchesky has gone for the rest of the season i was getting sick of seeing his ugly mug gracing anfield

He's not gone for the rest of the season, just a 93 day emergency loan, that's til end of march

01 Feb 2011 22:08:05

Did anyone see sky sports reporting Carroll signing. .They said that Ashley and pardew asked them to emphasise the fact that they tried to keep carroll. .( maybe just so they didn't have the toon army turn on them)
Reality is carroll didn't want to go and apparently has proof that they wanted him to go. .( texts )

He recently told friends how pleased he was at signing a new deal and that he wanted to become a toon legend like shearer. .

Pardew said two weeks ago he was not for sale but when the torres situation started to unfold they new they may get a silly offer from us that they would accept. they turned our first bids down ( good PR )knowing they would be improved as we were against
running out of time. .

I have know doubt he was asked to hand in a transfer request cos they wanted the money and told him this. .

Reckon he will still do a great job though if he keeps his nose clean.

Ed whats ure take on this story. .

{Editor Note: Regardless of what happened, if Carroll didn't want to be here he wouldn't have signed and it is as simple as that. He genuinly did love Newcastle as he is a local lad and he was a hero with the fans so he wouldn't have just packed up and left if he wasn't excited about the prospect of coming to Liverpool.}

01 Feb 2011 22:06:00
I think it's time for us to not even talk about Torres now. We signed Suarez and Carroll yesterday and should be looking forward to see what they bring to our team. Torres is history Suarez, Carroll, Suso, Pacheco, Coady etc are our future.

Blair Mayne YNWA

01 Feb 2011 22:05:02

Not in the slightest bit bothered Torres has gone. I have said for a few months now the lad has got no soul and no pride. Now he has no class as well. Wouldn't be suprised if Acholotti is sacked in the summer and Rafa is offered the job with the chavs. Not a bad outside bet.What do you think Ed
ROYZERED

{Editor Note: Glad he's gone also.}

01 Feb 2011 22:04:55

Half of these fans are fickle one second were not ambitious and not buying anyone the next is were spending too much on a player (which is what happens in Jan) P.S Andy Carroll has potential (proper potential noy like Babel) to a great and its good to have him in red. ED agree? -Mc

{Editor Note: People are like that. Some very fickle fans around.}

01 Feb 2011 22:03:21

If like me your concerned pepe may leave let's make the lad feel loved and tomorrow give him the biggest support if has ever heard

LFC1

01 Feb 2011 22:03:10

Ed, do you think Roman bought FT because he wanted him as he did with Shevchenko.Wont they have to change their formation to suit him.?Things looking better for us than they did 4 weeks ago.

{Editor Note: Either they change to a diamond 4-4-2 or a regular 4-4-2 - which Chelsea players don't like playing, or they play Drogba wide right in which case he'll sulk and moan. Then Torres will have to play wide right and he'll not be as effective and he might get unhappy. A lot to work on for Carlo.}

01 Feb 2011 22:03:06

I was delighted when harry redknapp was left with an egg on his face trying to sign Adam. He didn't even want him, that was just to take p**s out of lfc. I had a lot of respect for harry, but this season he has been talking out of his a**e, so no respect. it would have been all over ssn that lfc had been gasumped by this son of the b***h.

kopking

01 Feb 2011 22:02:16
Evening ed what do you think of jovanovic with his pace down the left wing he can cause all sorts of problems for defences I think he just needs a few games

{Editor Note: I think he's hopeless. The sooner he goes the better if you ask me.}

01 Feb 2011 22:02:01

Evening ed everyone .psv elnino is now known as just psv , two quick points do you think suarez and kuyt up front tomorrow?and kenny on lfctv now said they will spend big in the summer as well if needed , so do you think kenny got job for longer time than end of season ?cheers psv

{Editor Note: I think Kenny will go for a front three of Maxi, Kuyt and Suarez. And I think he'll get the job now. The fans love him and the players seem to also.}

01 Feb 2011 21:58:32

Just a quick reminder to everyone cuz i havent seen ne1 mention this but thank f*** tht london p***k konchesky has gone for the rest of the season i was getting sick of seeing his ugly mug gracing anfield

lfc4lifeynwa

01 Feb 2011 21:57:45
This is more fact than a rumour.Im not here to explain the rules of the Financial Fair Play as they can be found with ease through google.However what i will tell you is that there are only going to be 2 teams in the Premiership that will benefit from this.And that's Liverpool FC and Manchester Utd FC.
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What about our old friends Woolrich Arsenal? Surely they will benefit as they have been operating under the same rules, albeit self-imposed, for the last several years. I would say they are in an even better position than either the Mancs or us because they have the stadium and no debts.
Anfield Rapstar

01 Feb 2011 21:54:53
Funniest thing I read today was that Carlo Ancelotti was ecstatic about the Torres and Luiz signings. Yet as of this this afternoon he still had not met them. ron Gourlay, Chavski's CEO stated this today.

Now since the signings and medicals and all the gubbings was done at Chelsea's training complex, you would have thought the man would just pop round. Afterall, he goes there everyday and you would think he lived closeby. you would think that being at the contract signing of the club/ uk record signing would be something he would really want to be at.

Even, if he was away in sunderland preparing the team you would think he could be flown back or he could delay his departure to Sunderland.

Seems to me he is dead man walking and will not be there much longer. This looks like Abramovich deciding who should play like shevchenko. Be interesting to see how team morale is affected when either drogba or anelka is left out. Neither are shrinking violets. Looks like torres will be as popular as shevchenko was.funny if they finished sixth.
madrileno rojo

01 Feb 2011 21:47:10

Why was Konchesky allowed to leave? no replacement

{Editor Note: You seriously wanted that waste of space here?}

01 Feb 2011 21:45:32

Please post this rumour:

All the gossip about the owners having to spend the Torres money are incorrect. I have it on good grounds that Liverpool have approx 70m for summer signings and will be looking at signing Young, Adam, and Benzema. We are also looking at strengthening other areas but I have not been told of any other players coming in. We put a bid in for Young for 18m but it got rejected and told to come back in the summer.

The bad news is Reina also wants out, he will be gone in the summer. He isn't enjoying life with LFC and is very annoyed that he can't have his own trainer. I am more gutted about this news than Torres going. Just hope it isn't to the gobsh***s up the M62.

I have this news from a very reliable person who knows an ex-player who was involved in the Torres transfer, not hard to work out. He told me about the Torres deal weeks ago, he had his head turned in the summer by Chelsea.

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Spot on.

Not as sure on Reina yet though.

Macca

01 Feb 2011 21:45:27

01 Feb 2011 21:32:58

Liverpool will target further reinforcements in the summer transfer window.
Expect to see King Kenny target Fucile for full back cover, with a strong possibility that Johnson could be moved out to Tottenham.
Micah Richards could again be bid for, depending on city's summer spending.
A centre half will be targeted, with Cahill and kjaer the most likely targets. Jovanovic could be swapped in any move for kjaer.
Left back is another position to be filled, with coentrao, baines and cissokho high on the list of possibles.
A centre midfielder could be signed, depending upon players out, with Adam a possible, although interest will be high. I would expect KK to watch banega, matuidi and flamini to fill this position.
Wingers will be signed, with marveaux likely to arrive and turan a favourite of KK, although plenty of players will be considered, including young, mata, drenthe, Jarvis, payet, n'zogbia and Milner just some of the possibles!
I would expect a further striker to be signed, someone with pace or a fox in the box. . Benzema or lukaku could be signed.
Good times ahead for Liverpool. .
MJ
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funny I heard most of these names 4 weeks ago and how many dud we get?? You are guessing you know nothing a guess or a player you would like to see dies NOT constitute a rumour

01 Feb 2011 21:44:12

Ed, is there any truth in Carroll not wanting to join?

{Editor Note: If he didn't want to join why is he here?}

01 Feb 2011 21:43:58
Please please let him play i would like nothing more than see The Spanish Mercenary scum get worked over by Gerrard, Kelly and Skrtel

Now the reality is hitting when i read this, Skrtel vs Torres, hope Skrtel has studied Torres in training!
Irish Kev.

01 Feb 2011 21:41:17

To the person saying "mark my words, reina is going to arsenal"
arsenal have found their keeper in scenzy (spelling)
he's got potential, and if he is playing now, and wenger has named his as their number 1, then why would he wast 20/ 25 mill on reina. . when he has a player good enough for free

01 Feb 2011 21:33:47
Here's a quick question for the ed's and anyone else. Can you name a single player (who has been a success at Liverpool) who has left the club and gone on to be more successful? I honestly can't think of anyone.

Redfish

{Editor Note: None spring to mind right away.}

McManaman, Keegan, Anelka (although unsuccessful at Liverpool). Not many - but normally players go backwards when they leave us. Torres was unsuccessful here too in terms of titles. He will probably be successful at Chelsea so let's brace ourselves. No point in being bitter against him, he'll learn in time that he had his best years with us in the EPL. It's sad he's gone yes but he hasn't been the same player for the past 10 months at least, probably more in fact. If we give Carroll & Suarez decent service from next season when Kenny will really get deep into the transfer market for wingers & creative players hopefully they will bang more in than Torres. Carroll can be unplayable. If Suarez adapt to EPL we could be back big time! Can definately see a return to challenging for top 4 next season followed by challenge for title by season 2012/ 13. Don't be down guys & stop the hatred towards Torres, just forget him now like he's most likely forgotten us. My words to fellow Reds are: Move on now, don't dwell on negativity & encourage & support what we have who could well be better than what we had.
Start showing why WE are considered the best fans in football - support your own, don't knock others.
Ed? Anything encouraging info or words for the haters & upset folk on here that you'd like to add?
Sorry if i've put you on the spot.
Cheers,
Irish Kev.

P.S.
Feel sorry for Newcastle fans - Carroll showed some loyalty to them at least, if we show him our support & he bangs em in, he might just show us the same loyalty if Chelsea come knocking on his door in 3 - 4 years with a crazy offer. Difference would be, we wouldn't force him to go.

01 Feb 2011 21:33:34

With a bit of luck the lady boy won't play against us on sunday anelka putting in a man of the match performance so they won't change the front two

01 Feb 2011 21:32:21

For all the people complaining about Nando leaving and not being 'replaced', think again! I really believe that with Carroll and Suarez up front we have THE most formidable forward pairing in the league. In his time at Ajax Suarez was usually played just off a bigger taret man, and in the position he scored an absolute tonne of goals. We have not only purchased Suarez a target man we have bough the best target man in the world at the moment. Defenders, even experienced ones are scared of Carroll, so hopefully with these to we will quickly forget about the once loved 'Fernando Torres'.

01 Feb 2011 21:32:04

Looked at the LFC first team squad page and noticed suso, sterling and wisdom have been alocated squad numbers, which they didn't have before the window shut, does this mean we cann expect to see them maybe involved with the first team at some point this season or am i just reading into this a little bit too much?

01 Feb 2011 21:30:09
What the f*** is the point of loaning Ecclestone if he doesn't bloody START.
pointless, ridiculas! ! ! !

Harry5:)YNWA

01 Feb 2011 21:28:10

Great great site. Only discovered it last week. My wife hasnt seen me in three days, just sitting here reading all the updates. There is a definite mood swing towards Liverpool in the last month. Build on it next year to finally win the title, especially if we don't make Europe. It could be a blessing to concentrate on the League

01 Feb 2011 21:25:38

01 Feb 2011 20:14:45

01 Feb 2011 19:00:22

Ed can suarez play in the europa leauge then or not iv tried to work it on the site but people are saying yes some saying no what does it look like?

{editor: I don't think so.}

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according to Alan Green on 5live tonight Suarez can play in the Europa league. and himself, Graham Taylor and Chief football reporter for the BBC Mike Ingham went on to slaughter Torres for his comments about going to a big club and general disrepect towards us, and all thought we had done excellent business in our transfer dealings after being put in such a position by Torres. . they didn't pull their punches with him and said he has stained his reputation forever with the way he treated the fans and club. . ripping stuff!

Red til Dead

Europa League Regulations Article 18
18.17 For all matches from the start of the round of 32, a club may register a
maximum of three new eligible players for the remaining matches in the
current competition. Such registration must be completed by 1 February
2011 (24.00 CET) at the latest. This deadline cannot be extended.

18.18 One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered provided that the player has not been fielded:
− in the same competition for another club; or
- for another club that is currently in the same competition

suarez hasnt been fielded by ajax in the europa league therefore he can play

01 Feb 2011 21:25:16
2nd liverpool home shirt this season just been ordered. .gerrard 8, thank you very much replacing judas 9, can't wait to beat the chavs on sunday

01 Feb 2011 21:25:04
Why should liverpool go for another striker. In my eyes they've got 3 quality strikers. Why do they need another. So stop sending all these messages about us getting a new striker. All I know we want a winger to support Suarez and Carrol
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why should we go for another striker? I'll tell you why, because Carroll is massively overrated and will prove to be a huge waste of money. He is one dimensional, ponderous and lacking in any craft oh and you can add to this the fact that he is a violent thug as well. He isn't in the same class as someone like llorente or Aguero or even Barrios. And he's not on the same planet as Torres. Suarez is a top signing and he should have been joined by a top striker not a massively expensive gamble. Even if we can't attract the very top players because of not being in CL there are other players that we should have signed for example N'zogbia was easily attainable. Now before you all start slagging me off I will be right behind the team always and I am desperate for Carroll to prove me wrong because I only want the best for the club I love so don't call me down for having an opinion
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i'm not having a pop mate but i disagree with you capello has already sat him down an told him in no uncertain terms what he needs to do to get into the england squad and i think k.k will guide him and show him how to be a better player and i think hopefully him and suarez can be the destructive partnership that we all hope, so in other words he might be 1 dimensional at the moment but i have evey belief that the manager knows what he is doing, and i also believe the squad needed this wake up call for we may not be in the champions league this season but we soon will be.
y.n.w.a huddz red

01 Feb 2011 21:23:46

Hi just a quick question to MACCA or any ED in the know There is no doubt Honda is an amazing talent and we were interested in him so why did we not get him and is there any chance we will get him in the summer?? Are we still interested? ?
Thanks

{Editor Note: I think because he was tied up with the Asian Cup. But hopefully we move for him in the Summer.}

01 Feb 2011 21:23:32
Ed, where do you think we will finish this season? And do u think anyone won't shake torres' hand on Sunday? Plz post

{Editor Note: I think we'll finish 6th personally. And they will shake his hand I think.}

01 Feb 2011 21:20:29
Can't see anyone else getin managers job now after kk spending that amount of money on his players. We will rise once again keep faith ynwa

01 Feb 2011 21:14:07

ED / / will torres play against as on sunday {ed's note - personally I wouldn't be surprised if he chipped his nail varnish or something and wasn't fit. But he is certainly talking like he will play.}

Please please let him play i would like nothing more than see The Spanish Mercenary scum get worked over by Gerrard, Kelly and Skrtel

01 Feb 2011 21:13:02

01 Feb 2011 20:57:03

The Europa League eligibilty issue appears to be causing some confusion but the way I read it is :
If Suarez has been fielded by Ajax in the Champions League and they have now been relegated to the Europa League he CANNOT play for Liverpool.
If Ajax are knocked out of the Round of 32 by Anderlecht Suarez becomes eligible to play in the Round of 16 - Provided Liverpool have registered him as an additional squad member of the 3 they are allowed to register today February 1st 2011.
In short, LFC had to register him today hoping that Ajax get knocked out of the Round of 32.
Carroll should also have been registered today to make him eligible for Europe.

suarez is eligible to play in the europa league the uefa relaxed the rules just recently allowing him to play in another european contest for another team aslong as he hasnt been played in the europa league for ajax which he hasnt, he wasnt even registered for the europa league by ajax, check it out the rules have been relaxed

01 Feb 2011 21:11:07

Does anyone know a decent streaming site for tomorrow night's game i normally use atdhe.net but it says it's been seized by homeland security?? any help would be great. . . please post ed. .
longlivekingkenny

01 Feb 2011 21:10:00

01 Feb 2011 20:17:00

Quote: Noticed the post below (from KopIdol) re Suarez' eligibility ya da ya da. . and I think there's a key word that may have been overlooked that seems to imply he is eligible.
That key work being 'fielded'.

That's right. think back to Owen. He was left on the bench for Liverpool in Europe because he would have been cup tied should he move - to Real Madrid as it was at the time. Suarez should be OK for Europe
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Sorry to disappoint everyone but Suarez has appeared 9 times in Champs League this season including the qualifying rounds scored 4 with 4 assists (and picked up 5 yellow cards on the way too). I don't think he will be playing in the Europa League for us.

01 Feb 2011 21:06:51

I was led to believe that a work permit is still required for suarez is this the case ed and how long till we can expect carroll to be match fit

DannyBoy5150

{Editor Note: I don't think Suarez will have any problems getting a work permit. And I think Carroll is a few weeks away from fitness.}

01 Feb 2011 21:05:55
What are the chances of benitez joining chelsea if ancellotti gets sacked in the summer then he can argue with torres again and torres will end up at somewhere like blackpool in aswap for adam lol.
huddz red. y.n.w.a
p.s welcome to our 3 new players, hope you do well, and thanx to the eds for all their hard work over the last month.

01 Feb 2011 21:05:18
How bout to the Abba song:-

There is something in the air tonight
He was full of s**te
Fer-nan-doh
Chelsea overpaid a nice 50
to LFC
Fer-nan-doh

01 Feb 2011 21:04:21

Kelly- - Carragher- - Agger- - Johnson

- Meireles- - - - - - - - Lucas- - - -

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- - - Suarez- - - - - - Pacheco- - - -

- - - - - - - Carroll- - - - - - - - - - I like the look of that mate!
Also Suso to rotate with Pacheco, think they are both more than ready now!

Thankyou there are other formations I would play but and Ed correct me if I am wrong but Gerrard won't move from the middle and Johnson won't move from defence due to his England place.Johnson and Kelly would be more like Wingbacks anyway with support from Meireles and Lucas.I only put this formation due to hearing that Dalglish plyas the christmas tree formation and wondered what he would do if I could play any dream formation it would be.

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KELLY- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AURELLIO

JOHNSON- - - - - - MEIRELES- - - - - -GERRARD

- - - - - SUAREZ- - - - - - -PACHECO- - - - -

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I agree that Suso is quality and fully understand you wanting to put him up but I think Dalglish won't and to do so would be too soon and dampen the lads confidence I believe Pacheco is the one ready and it is time to show our faith in him as I have watched him and he is very dynamic.

RED WILLY

01 Feb 2011 21:00:59
Ed how do you fancy liverpools chances on sunday is carrol playing torres , drogba, anelka v suarez lets play 4 a draw

{Editor Note: Carroll isn't going to play. And I think we can nick a draw.}

01 Feb 2011 21:00:27
His armband lied he was a red
Torres Torres!
Hes just a rent boy like the rest
Torres Torres!
In our backs he plunged his knife. .
I hope John Terry shags ya wife
Fernando Torres Chelseas new No9.

Now lets move on YNWA. .

01 Feb 2011 20:59:47

The ink is still wet and I've heard that Torres is already regretting the move to Chelsea, might explain why he said the things he said, to convince himself that the move was the right thing to do. You heard anything ED?

Summer Moves
Ed can you see us going back for Adam (for some reason I can see us cooling interest)?

Looking at what and who we bough I can see Defence and wide players being the priority, Left Back, obviously, maybe Right back (anyone heard anymore rumblings about GJ moving on?) and CB to partner DAgger.

Exciting time ahead.

Red G

{Editor Note: Not heard anything about that mate. And I think if KK is still manager we'll go in for Adam again. But there is a possible bidding war now that Spurs and possibly Man Utd are sniffing around.}

01 Feb 2011 20:58:43

How good would it be if Torres plays on Sunday and he pulls his hamstring and he is out for the rest of the season

01 Feb 2011 20:58:38
First i would like to say i was much more impressed with the way we done business in this transfer window as much as the business we done thanks k.k.
Tores had to go but i have an issue about Carroll. I read last week that carroll went to sweden to see the top muscle specialist in the world because he should have been back 2 weeks ago. 35 million for a player with 6 months premiership experience and possible long term injury worries what do you think

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To whoever posted the above, there is strong contradiction between the 2 paragraphs.
I totally agree with you regarding the Carroll issue and therefore disagree with you that we done impressive business.

Roy

01 Feb 2011 20:57:10

Why should liverpool go for another striker. In my eyes they've got 3 quality strikers. Why do they need another. So stop sending all these messages about us getting a new striker. All I know we want a winger to support Suarez and Carrol
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why should we go for another striker?? I'll tell you why, because Carroll is massively overrated and will prove to be a huge waste of money. He is one dimensional, ponderous and lacking in any craft oh and you can add to this the fact that he is a violent thug as well. He isn't in the same class as someone like llorente or Aguero or even Barrios. And he's not on the same planet as Torres. Suarez is a top signing and he should have been joined by a top striker not a massively expensive gamble. Even if we can't attract the very top players because of not being in CL there are other players that we should have signed for example N'zogbia was easily attainable. Now before you all start slagging me off I will be right behind the team always and I am desperate for Carroll to prove me wrong because I only want the best for the club I love so don't call me down for having an opinion

01 Feb 2011 20:54:29
Its time we moved on from Torres, lets stop being bitter and concentrate on who we have. As kk said the important people are those at Liverpool football club and want to play for Liverpool football club.
Torres was a good player for us , maybe not always, but in a lot of the times, lets just remember his good contribution and the many goals he scored for us.
If Torres did play against us , I am sure Carra feels the same way we do , and I am sure he (Carra) won't mind a red card if it meant a chance to show Torres how he felt.

Roy

01 Feb 2011 20:54:28
Hes half a boy hes half a girl torres torres
he has a willy and a hole torres torres
hes gonna get his bum bashed in
by ashley cole and essien
fernando torres chelseas new high class whore

01 Feb 2011 20:52:22

In terms of Carroll returning from injury, I hope we learn our f****g lesson and try not to rush him back too soon, like we did with Torres

01 Feb 2011 20:49:13

This is actually hilarious once you get over the shock. . .Cast your mind back throughout our illustrious history, and our absolute legendary players, matches that stand the test of time, quotable managers full of character, our massive successess, the most knowledgeable and best pasionate fans in football. .etc. . Think about our glory. . Now how many players have ever put in a transfer request to demand a switch to Chelsea? Our 'Nando is a record signing for them, he just wanted to wear their number 9 which has been previously worn by such footballing giants such as Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. . .What have we come to? But I know where we are going, and El Nino will regret this like so many that have left 'to get trophies.'

01 Feb 2011 20:41:30

HI ed I haven't been on the site for half a day and it feels like a lifetime because i was always on it, anyway is this gossip about reina true or is it just talk because if it does happen it would be disgusting.thanks ed

Hibsy lfc

{Editor Note: I've actually heard nothing about Reina.}

01 Feb 2011 20:40:44

Liverpool are waiting for a Wigan relegation. If so Liverpool will make a bid for both N'Zogbia and Figuora-Mc

01 Feb 2011 20:38:45

First i would like to say i was much more impressed with the way we done business in this transfer window as much as the business we done thanks k.k.
Tores had to go but i have an issue about Carroll. I read last week that carroll went to sweden to see the top muscle specialist in the world because he should have been back 2 weeks ago. 35 million for a player with 6 months premiership experience and possible long term injury worries what do you think
great site

01 Feb 2011 20:38:42
So there's a transcript that says carrol didn't want to move - so what, big deal, he's a red now and wearing number 9. When he finally plays let's get behind him and show what it really means to play for Liverpool

As for Torres that boy can Ram It

01 Feb 2011 20:37:50
I think people dnt understand what carroll is a capable of, all defenders in the prem do not like playing against him(he bullies them more than the drog and davies), hes the best headerer in the premiership, has the best hold up play in the prem by far, and has a very could left foot, and his link up play is also very good. and for people critisising the owners saying we only spent the money from torres and babel, at least they let us spend it, look at united when they sold ronaldo, the owners only gave them, 18 mil for valencia. Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll could be a potential devestating force

01 Feb 2011 20:36:40
Ed?

Hope you can get some news from Macca regarding Riena. Were is his head at will he stay and be part of the new era or like Torres is he after £££ and instant success.

Please Ed , Macca what do you know regarding Pepe.

DONT BUY THE SUN

{Editor Note: I know nothing about what's happening with Pepe but he's said he's fully committed to Liverpool. He's different to Torres though. I remember there were reports he handed in a transfer request and he immediatly came out and said they were lies. Reina has class.}

01 Feb 2011 20:28:07
He big hes red he'll butt in the head . .andy carroll! !

01 Feb 2011 20:27:32
Suarez starts tomorrow night with gerrard playing behind him anchored by meireles and Lucas in the middle. Carra and ngog on the bench. This is a fact

Red Paddy

01 Feb 2011 20:26:35

We all thought he was a red torres torres, money came and turned his head torres torres, you spend more time on ya hair your vein, you should have gone back to spain, fernando torres could have been a legend no9

01 Feb 2011 20:24:51
Hi my name . is Ess, Kay, Bainz, Im a FB user and
I help run a page for are beloved LFC fans around the world Are page is called . true Kopites we are the reds. . Im going to the Chelsea game on Sunday . and i was wondering if you could help me spread or promote this song to the fans I bodged up so we can all sing it together.
make Torres blood boil. Im mean That's the least he deserves!

f*** torres.! . . . torres!

the pricks got no morals or sense.

at chels**t you watch he'll be benched. .

f*** torres. . . . torres

(steve gerrard anthem)

please let me know if your willing to help. . truly yours from . . a pleated fan . . y, n, w, a

ess kay bainz

01 Feb 2011 20:24:44

Sure we spend too much on Andy, but it was never going to be easy the way Torres forced the club into deadline day.
We had to get a very good replacement, and we did.
Suarez on the other hand, will work well on both flanks, up front ur just behind, super deal Comolli.

And then it's time to shut up Balague and go to Chelsea and and nurse your partnership with Benitez(who will be there soon if Chelsea loose to many games), and Torres(is he your son?)

So stop talking about Liverpool spending to much money when your "new" club has done it every window now.

A big praise to NESV for backing Kenny 100%, and imagine we bring in Andy and Suarez and the outcome is -2£, this will suit us for the future!

We should be proud of the owners and think about it, they were willing to spend much more but Kenny and Comilli didn't wanted to be held ransom everywhere!

This is a big signal that things is changing, and it might be quicker than NESV is talking about. But they're action, not words.

And now everything is to be done on the pitch starting tomorrow against Stoke!

The future looks bright, start making the present bright lads.

JC

Anyone agree?

01 Feb 2011 20:12:53
Huh! Where are the 'Agree/ Disagree' buttons ? {ed's note - they had to be removed, they overwork the servers. We are trying to figure out a way to do them that will not put so much pressure on them so they can come back though.}

01 Feb 2011 20:09:33

01 Feb 2011 19:50:04
Ed/ / / harry rednapp is a joke big time charlie, what a wa**er chasing are targets to bump there price up. sniffing round like a lost dog on ssn being all smug made a tit out of himself when the tangys called his bluff ha ha ha . what u think ed

{Editor Note: Stinks of desperation if you ask me. They are packed with central-midfielders and it seems as if he just wanted to get someone for the sake of it.}

told ya harry redknapp will bankrupt tottenham if he keeps buying like he does for the sake of it {ed's note - I don't know why you are talking about him chasing our targets though, they were after the likes of Llorente, Rossi, Aguero and we weren't. Adam was a desperation move though, a gesture to appease the fans as no one else was coming.}

01 Feb 2011 20:08:58
Realistically we won't be signing anyone over 24ish from now on as when we start to developed or build new stadium we will be quiet in the transfer windows just arsenal were for a few years.
We will get a young hungry team together with excellent youth coming through like the lad from Coventry I hope which will freshen the team up instead of big transfers.
Expect a good summer of transfers and then news on the stadium situation

01 Feb 2011 20:08:26
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . Kelly. . .Carragher. .Agger. . .Johnson. .

Gerrard. . . Meireles. . . . Lucas. . . . Aurelio

. . . . . . . . .Suarez. . . .Carroll. . . . . . . . .

01 Feb 2011 20:07:27
Blue is the colour
Judas is the name
All I want is money
Don't care about the game
So cheer me on when I go lame
Because Judas, Judas is the name

Love

Fernando

01 Feb 2011 20:06:49

This is more fact than a rumour.Im not here to explain the rules of the Financial Fair Play as they can be found with ease through google.However what i will tell you is that there are only going to be 2 teams in the Premiership that will benefit from this.And that's Liverpool FC and Manchester Utd FC.

They are the two highest EARNING clubs in the Premiership.And are the only two that have any major fan base throughout Europe and the rest of the World.Im not telling you that by 2015 Liverpool will be in a constant trade off with United for the league title, But what what we can surely be certain of is that within the next 8-10 years Liverpool will be winning titles as quick as they did in the 70s-80s.

On another note id like to thank the editors for there great work throughout yesterday.And also when it comes to transfers don't worry.We have seen this time and again.Dalglish knows what he is doing.People forget the Rush situation and the initial questions asked of the players bought with the money.But we ended up better off for it.Who was Aldridge? Would Barnes of been your first buy?No.And look how that turned out.

01 Feb 2011 20:05:58
Torres saying in interview, he hopes he can score a goal against us on sunday and that this club hes at now is the top there is no higher level ha ha come on torres even u can't believe chelsea is the highest level of a football team there is lol more like barca

01 Feb 2011 20:01:30

Abramovich has made a big statement of intent with regards to what HE wants. . NESV, with KK and most likely Stevie G and Carra have made a big statement of intent of what they need to bring our mighty club back to what it was. That's the difference between a greedy tycoon and owners who respect the tradition of their club and the desires of the players and fans. Now let's pre-empt and start making enquiries for possible summer targets: Podolski, Honda, Turan, Adams, Ramos. Come on John and Tom, you've given us a taste of what your intentions are, now let's make this club a 'bastion of invincibility' once more.

01 Feb 2011 19:56:46
01 Feb 2011 19:46:17
HE'LL PUSH YOU OVER AND STEAL THE BALL CARROLL CARROLL
HE'LL GIVE YOU A BOOT WHEN YOUR DOWN CARROLL CARROLL
HE'LL POKE YOUR EYES AND GOUGE YOUR FACE WHILE DRAGGING YOU ALL OVER THE PLACE
ANDY CARROLL LIVERPOOLS NUMBER 9

REDMAN

Taxi for redman!

01 Feb 2011 19:55:39
Does anybody know whether or not Dalglish is still involved in player agency?

01 Feb 2011 19:53:05
Torres to the bigger club lol? cumon the sunderland

01 Feb 2011 19:52:47

Chelsea are losing already to Sunderland.
Good luck at your 'top top' team Fernando
YoungRed

01 Feb 2011 19:49:46

Ed what do you make of this Carroll conversation that has come out? Do you think he is happy to be a red? And do you think now with two proper strikers we are better than we were?

Seano

{Editor Note: I think he's delighted to be here. And I hope they both perform so we'll have a team as opposed to just this "two man team" label.}

01 Feb 2011 19:46:17
HE'LL PUSH YOU OVER AND STEAL THE BALL CARROLL CARROLL
HE'LL GIVE YOU A BOOT WHEN YOUR DOWN CARROLL CARROLL
HE'LL POKE YOUR EYES AND GOUGE YOUR FACE WHILE DRAGGING YOU ALL OVER THE PLACE
ANDY CARROLL LIVERPOOLS NUMBER 9

REDMAN

01 Feb 2011 19:43:21
Hope nando wins the tittle at chelsea really do then that will mean united havnt. Good luck nando and thanks but did u not see that golden sky on the horizon. New chapter now in lfc history now very exited red.

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Great point, Torres leaving has been heart breaking, but i'd rather he help cheski win the title then the man u scum (Arsenal winning it however would be millions times better)!
Redish

01 Feb 2011 19:41:28

So bored with this andy Carrol bull, bring on next saturday. Lets get back to the football

01 Feb 2011 19:40:45

Gr8 site, keep it up. Ed whats your take on the caroll signing. ?

{Editor Note: Cost too much, but still has a lot to prove.}

01 Feb 2011 19:39:25
He's big and hard an now a red Carroll Carroll
You'll never walk alone again Carroll Carroll
We bought the lad from Geordie Land
And now he wears a red armband
Andy Carroll Liverpool's number 9

Evered

01 Feb 2011 19:37:46

RE: NESV

When we sell Gerrard in the summer for 60million, will the club go out on stupid spending spree for some player at 60million. Sell to buy club now.

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Torres wanted to leave, we had bought suarez, didn't sell anyone bar babbel £6mill, before hand. Looks like torres wanting to leave at short notice meant LFC put all effort in signing replacement striker- whereas if he had stayed Adams & Young MAY have been more likely to happen. Torres replacement became clubs main priority, we have a decent enough midfield (lacks a bit of width) at mo. Things looking up at anfield. . YNWA. Redish

01 Feb 2011 19:34:16
Torres has gone big deal, so what. We won the champs league and the fa cup without him and absolute naff all with him.

Thanks for goals Fernando now sod off get yourself a new London style haircut to go with the team that you believe is at the highest level. Take care though not to fall from this level because it's a long way down!

01 Feb 2011 19:33:45
IF the rumours are true that Carroll was forced out of Newcastle then look on the bright side . . . that should give him some extra incentive to prove them wrong! He has a few issues off the pitch sure ( he is young after all) but given the right guidance (KK) he could become great. I was surprised at Shearer's comments about the move as he was supportive of the lad. .I would have thought he would have been disapointed. £35M is still a bit steep mind!
IggyPop

01 Feb 2011 19:31:26

I never knew that English people could be so angry

01 Feb 2011 19:28:39
Hi Ed, first of all I would like to say how funny it is that someone had a rant at you, this is because you got it wrong. . i think this person needs to learn what a rumours website is, it's not called Liverpool-facts! As for my question is there still a chance to sign on loan for a bit longer (such as the summer transfer window)? I'm talking about warnock to Liverpool, we need a left back still!

{editor: No chance of loans Im affraid.}

01 Feb 2011 19:28:24

Can all these people stop giving the owners a hard time! they have come in, wiped our debt, looked at the club from top to bottom and made good decisions.
By the time KK came in, we were into the Transfer Window and his first task was to get the team playing again and give them and the fans belief. Only once he had assessed what he had to work with could he start to look at transfers so at most 10 days before the window closed.
With Torres handing in a transfer request, it was obvious our attention was turned to bringing in another striker who was not cup tied for the Europa otherwise all we would have been left with Kuyt and Ngog. Why do you think he wouldn't let Torres go to the Chavs for his medical until we were 99% with Carroll?
The owners will invest, and they will do it well, but they were forced into a corner. If we had spent another 10m on Adam (still not sure about him though) we would have bought well in an inflated January market.
Considering the changes this season, and the speed at which they have had to learn the game and the passion of LFC, I think they have done a cracking job, and if our new No. 9 can do the business with 20odd prem goals a season for the next 5-10 years, £35m will look like a great piece of business.

01 Feb 2011 19:28:21

Good day ed so ok ft has gone but were did it all go wrong i still think its gerrard he gives new players a hard time doe not let them settle so hence they are sh**e , the big boys stand up to him aloanso, mascarono, torres.raffa gerrard is like a big baby anyone gets more credit then him he gets them out. i think its about time to get him to move on . what u think ed john w henry said he want a young team . ps can't see him saying any think to carroll seen the size of the lad

{editor: I wouldn't want to sell Gerrard, another ed would.}

01 Feb 2011 19:27:36
01 Feb 2011 19:01:12
TO THE TUNE OF YOUNG MAN

NANDO

YOU WERE THE MAN IN THE RED
I SAID NANDO YOU LET THE CASH RULE YOUR HEAD
WHY NANDO
YOU MOVED SOUTH AND YOU SAID
THAT YOUVE MOVED TO A BIGGGG CLUB NOW
HA HA HA HA
CHELSEA ARE NOTHING BUT THE KGB
THEY SEND KIDS TO WORK IN A FACTORY
SELLING OIL FOR HIS OLD LADY
WELL YOUVE MADE YOUR BED RIGHT NOW

REDMAN
PS feel free to change

Torres you backstabbing turncoat
we won nothing with you
neither will they

(you may need to re jig the tune a bit)

01 Feb 2011 19:26:55
Any chance FT is in his hotel room looking on this site? lol

Still surprised he went! ED do you think he was bluffing and it back fired? To see what would happen I.e like Rooney?

Still we will never know, but reading his comments on here from chelseatv he was probley reading off a board?

His loss our gain.

Lee73

{editor: He wanted the move}

01 Feb 2011 19:25:48
Kelly- - Carragher- - Agger- - Johnson

- Meireles- - - - - - - - Lucas- - - -

- - - - - - -Gerrard- - - - - - - - -

- - - Suarez- - - - - - Pacheco- - - -

- - - - - - - Carroll- - - - - - - - - - I like the look of that mate!
Also Suso to rotate with Pacheco, think they are both more than ready now!

01 Feb 2011 19:25:05

Wish i could have got a ticket to sunderland tonight i hope nando has took his bad luck with him but im torn for sunderland to win because they will deffo drop points and chelsea well we all hope they just end up in a religation battle:)

{editor: Torres isnt playing tonight.}

01 Feb 2011 19:22:38
I can't wait till Sunday and hear what songs we wil be singing.

01 Feb 2011 19:21:37

God I hope we beat Chelsea on Sunday now Torres has open his big gob

01 Feb 2011 19:19:37
He was a red and now he's blue Torres Torres
He was a red and now he's blue Torres Torres
He was a red and now he's blue
Just wait til Carra smashes you
Fernando Torres Judas piece of Sh1te

like it but made a few changes

Chelsea came with £50m torres torres
he was a red but now hes dead torres torres
he sold his soul to become blue
CARRA'S going to criple you
Fernando torres judas piece of sh1t

REDMAN

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NOT TAKEN THIS AT ALL WELL HAVE YOU. .

01 Feb 2011 19:15:57
01 Feb 2011 16:53:23
He was a red and now he's blue Torres Torres
He was a red and now he's blue Torres Torres
He was a red and now he's blue
Just wait til Carra smashes you
Fernando Torres Judas piece of Sh1te

like it but made a few changes

Chelsea came with £50m torres torres
he was a red but now hes dead torres torres
he sold his soul to become blue
CARRA'S going to criple you
Fernando torres judas piece of sh1t

REDMAN

01 Feb 2011 19:15:32

01 Feb 2011 19:00:22

Ed can suarez play in the europa leauge then or not iv tried to work it on the site but people are saying yes some saying no what does it look like?

{editor: I don't think so.}

yes he can, uefa relaxed the rules recently so suarez will be in the europa league

01 Feb 2011 19:13:20

Suarez is allowed play in Europe FACT! ! it's been said on five live just , Torres u back stabber

01 Feb 2011 19:11:25

Hope nando wins the tittle at chelsea really do then that will mean united havnt. Good luck nando and thanks but did u not see that golden sky on the horizon. New chapter now in lfc history now very exited red.

01 Feb 2011 19:06:58

Surely now with the contracts of Charlie Adam and Ashley Young running down to only 12 months at the end of this season , Kenny Dalglish will be picking them up in the summer for a reduced fee :

£9.75 million - Ashley Young

£4.75 million - Charlie Adam

adding quality and pace to the side , I think that is good business .

Now I have to say I would love NESV and Kenny Dalglish to break the bank in the summer and sign :

Gareth Bale for a full £50 million , here is hoping .

1977

01 Feb 2011 19:06:41
Hi Ed.

Just wondering if you heard about any notable transfer OUTSIDE of england? Any targets snapped up, or notable sums of money? Cheers mate, it just seems in england we only heard about big transfers from inside england. Thanks

{Editor Note: Nothing massive mate from what I know.}

01 Feb 2011 19:06:37
Alan pardew said earlier that andy carroll was 4 or 5 weeks away from playing, is this true ed?

{Editor Note: I'm not sure mate. Probably correct.}

01 Feb 2011 19:06:28
What aload of b****x people speak "asset stripping" if that was the case then they would not reinvested the money received we have rejuvinated our forward line with the ruski cah and will be better of in the long run

TC

01 Feb 2011 19:04:45
Here's a quick question for the ed's and anyone else. Can you name a single player (who has been a success at Liverpool) who has left the club and gone on to be more successful? I honestly can't think of anyone.

Redfish

{Editor Note: None spring to mind right away.}

Just after posting I thought of one! Steve Mcmanaman. Won league and champs league with Madrid and helped batter united on the way! Think he won coca cola and fa cup with us. I'd say his time with real was more successful. It'd be interesting to hear who he enjoyed playing for most though!

Redfish

01 Feb 2011 19:02:23

Carroll cannot play against the Music Hall Jokes aka The Rent Boys.
A target-man is needed.

Why not try The Greek as a centre forward?
He could rough up the Chelski defence and drop a few headers in the path of Suarez and Maxim to slot home.
I'd love to see the Greek knocking the Rent-Boy defence about a bit ?
Yasu

01 Feb 2011 19:01:12
TO THE TUNE OF YOUNG MAN

NANDO

YOU WERE THE MAN IN THE RED
I SAID NANDO YOU LET THE CASH RULE YOUR HEAD
WHY NANDO
YOU MOVED SOUTH AND YOU SAID
THAT YOUVE MOVED TO A BIGGGG CLUB NOW
HA HA HA HA
CHELSEA ARE NOTHING BUT THE KGB
THEY SEND KIDS TO WORK IN A FACTORY
SELLING OIL FOR HIS OLD LADY
WELL YOUVE MADE YOUR BED RIGHT NOW

REDMAN
PS feel free to change

01 Feb 2011 18:59:01

I think we should look at this very positively. . we are rebuilding a young, dynamic strong team. . we could have England's No. 9 playing up front for us for years to come! Sounds great. . looks like we could be playing two up front again. . I think that in itself is a step in the right direction. . lets go back to the attack, attack, attack philosophy this club was built on

They are looking to bring in young quality, with a selling on profit. . we know we have the money. . we were willing to spend another £20 in the transfer window on Micah Richards. . imagine that had come through. .

We got Jamie Carragher ready to be groomed by the King himself. . who will steer the ship in the right direction with Stevie G leading the line and finishing a glorious career with the one club he's always loved. .

We'll have Agger, Merilies, Suarez, Johnson, Reina all relatively young and established International stars and if rumours to believed. .We are going to be looking at bringing in the likes of Hazard, Young, Sahko and Richards. .

Finally fair play to the guy who recommended Yuto Nagatomo, he ended up signing for Inter Milan.

01 Feb 2011 18:58:57

To the tune of save your love my dear

kiss our arse fernando kiss our arse
all the goals you scored us are in the past
you were once a hero but now your just a zero
so kiss our arse fernando kiss our arse

REDMAN

01 Feb 2011 18:56:16

Evening Ed, I hope things have settled down for you after yesterdays epic events!. .

It has been suggested Blackpool delibrity refused our offers for Adam just to spite us, hence accepting a bid from Spurs that was lower than our offer.

Do you know if this is true and have you had word of any other failed bids due to the focused effort in securing Carroll?

Young could possibly have been another, but there must have been a few we didn't know or expect especially after the way LFC have conducted themselves over this transfer windowc (which has been great to see, even though difficult to tolerate at times! Long may that continue).

Cheers
GodKopBadKop

{Editor Note: It wouldn't surprise me mate, Karl Oyston is a clown. He's made himself out to be a right tool in recent weeks.}

01 Feb 2011 18:53:46

Ed. y not comment on teams?

{Editor Note: We usually only comment when we are asked mate. But apologies if we miss one or two, we have to much to edit and we sometimes miss people's questions.}

01 Feb 2011 18:52:08
To be fair to Torres he has stated that ". . I only have good things to say about Liverpool. They made me a top player and gave me a chance to play at the top level. I will never say anything bad about Liverpool. I have been very, very happy there. ."

I think his comments are lost in translation. What he meant is that Chelsea are competing for all the trophies that Liverpool aren't. He wants to win the league and champions league and he thinks Chelsea can provide him with these medals.

Don't get me wrong I still think the manner in which he left us was a disgrace but I think his statements were taken out of context. In his eyes his believes Chelsea are competing where we are not. And to be fair he's right. . At the moment! but this will change. Soon lampard, Terry, drogba, cole et al will all be past it and Chelsea will have to rebuild. But because of the new rules they will be unable to buy their way out of trouble. They are in decline and we are slowly on the rise again after our fall from grace. I think after the summer he will look back and wonder what he's done! And we simply won't care anymore.

Here's a quick question for the ed's and anyone else. Can you name a single player (who has been a success at Liverpool) who has left the club and gone on to be more successful? I honestly can't think of anyone.

Redfish

{Editor Note: None spring to mind right away.}

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Red Fish, I think you are spot on. . . .

We can be happy bcoz Torres was not worth 50 million in the market. . . . .Yes his value to Liverpool was higher but I am convinced that Liverpool have come out as the winner in this deal. .

Plus Chelsea didn't need a center forward. . . .still they have gone ahead and blown 85 million on Torres (transfer+wages). . . . .Soon they will realise it was a monumental mistake. . . . It looks almost the same as the Shevchenko deal. . . .

As for players who have left Liverpool, we shouldnt look beyond MASCHERANO at BARCA where HE WILL WIN BUT HE WILL NOT PLAY

And we should appreciate Andy Carroll's love for Newcastle. . Good to see some loyalty. .

01 Feb 2011 18:50:22
I know carroll may have been a little over priced but i think we got abetter deal. two players that are of great quality now and will be of world class in a few years, plus we got rid of an inconsistent, injury prone striker. At least carroll and suarez will fight for the red shirt and will play with passion!

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You also forgot that Carroll is FIVE years younger, in five years time Torres will be worthless when Carroll will be in his prime and with the impending fair play rules this could be a big issue in the future if we decide to sell. This could be a very good bit of business, i just hope Kenny can get control of the violent side in him

01 Feb 2011 18:50:05

I will admit i was a person who thought this thing wif nando had just been blown way out of proportion y oh y would fernando want to b part of a old old team with no way of gettin any where near the way they used to play because the mobsters just lost intrest in buying any one he wants and just trying to keep them in cl football and once tht has finshed i do reckon hell just go a pack his bag which will end up in a massive clearance of players to stay in the prem all i can say is tht im suprised tht he left but we ended up wif 2 awesome strikers to the only one and i wish nando luck as hes goin to need it the team chelsea have got at the moment will last 2 to 3 years max before roman has to splash the money he has this window and do reckon hell leave before then and then fernando squirmin back tht it was a mistake blah blah blah liverpool only way is up and so we should the past years weve had and well played yesterday eds much apprieciated

01 Feb 2011 18:43:40

01 Feb 2011 15:45:52

Hi Ed's,

done some research on the Suarez Europa league eligibilty and found this

18.18 One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered provided that the player has not been fielded:
− in the same competition for another club; or
− for another club that is currently in the same competition.

As Ajax are in the Europa League Suarez cannot play for us. If they had qualified for the next round of the champions league then he would have been ok.

I've included my email so if you want the link for the full set of regulations let me know.

Please post on the rumours page

KopIdol {ed's note - I know mate, I have been trying to point out his ineligibility for a while!}

Doesnt it say if he hasnt been feilded? Which he hasnt been?

Mick*****

01 Feb 2011 18:39:44

Ed with the new financial rules in place in the summer how much do u guess we can spend

{Editor Note: Don't know mate, but the club accounts won't be reviewed until like 2012. I don't know the rules properly myself mate. All I know is that we should be fine.}

01 Feb 2011 18:39:07

To be fair to Torres he has stated that ". . I only have good things to say about Liverpool. They made me a top player and gave me a chance to play at the top level. I will never say anything bad about Liverpool. I have been very, very happy there. ."

I think his comments are lost in translation. What he meant is that Chelsea are competing for all the trophies that Liverpool aren't. He wants to win the league and champions league and he thinks Chelsea can provide him with these medals.

Don't get me wrong I still think the manner in which he left us was a disgrace but I think his statements were taken out of context. In his eyes his believes Chelsea are competing where we are not. And to be fair he's right. . At the moment! but this will change. Soon lampard, Terry, drogba, cole et al will all be past it and Chelsea will have to rebuild. But because of the new rules they will be unable to buy their way out of trouble. They are in decline and we are slowly on the rise again after our fall from grace. I think after the summer he will look back and wonder what he's done! And we simply won't care anymore.

Here's a quick question for the ed's and anyone else. Can you name a single player (who has been a success at Liverpool) who has left the club and gone on to be more successful? I honestly can't think of anyone.

Redfish

{Editor Note: None spring to mind right away.}

01 Feb 2011 18:37:58

/ / Decent English players worth targeting:

Leighton Baines
Garry Cahil
Ashley Young
Micah Richards
Charlie Adam
James Milner
Adam Johnson

/ / Decent Foreign players worth targeting:

Javier Martinez
Keisuke Honda
Arda Turan
Edin Hazard
Fabio Coentrao
Juan Mata
Bastian Schweinsteiger

if we sign any of these we'll be sorted!

BENNOMANNNNNNNNN!

{Editor Note: Adam is Scottish by the way.}

01 Feb 2011 18:37:41
{Editor Note: The owners funed the Carroll deal. The full £35m. Liverpool won't get the Fernando Torres money for up to 28 days I gather. They could have easily waited until the Torres money came through and used it to replace him in the Summer.}

hi ed,

about what u said there does that mean the 50mil from torres wil go into the summer kitty i know theres not really a transfer kitty as such but it would still be seen as profit for the year? and so we can spend big with this new rule on spending happing next season?

RedBob

{Editor Note: It'll just go into the club, and the plans for the Summer will be made closer to the time. And I'm not sure exactly how the Financial Fair Play rules work, but we'll definatly break even like required, and make a profit.}

01 Feb 2011 18:36:54
01 Feb 2011 16:18:10
I'd be very disappointed with our fans on Sunday if they booo Torres. He was brilliant for us. I'm sad to see him go but he will soon realise that Chelsea fans our cockheads, and when he looks back in a few years he will regret it. We will be back at the top with the king in charge.YNWA
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Don't boo him. Just ignore him. Then he'll soon realise he will never be loved by them like he was loved by us.

01 Feb 2011 18:36:04

Liverpool team when carrol is fit

Reinia

Kelly Carragher Skrtel Johnson

Gerrard Lucas Mirieles

Kuyt Carroll Suarez

Am i right or wrong not enough width for 4-4-2 i personally think

01 Feb 2011 18:33:23

The situation is though, the torres deal DID happen and Charlie DIDN'T happen. I know they tried but we are desperate for width. Unfortunately a net spend of 2mil doesn't look good on the owners. I know they were trying to splash the cash but if there happy to pay 35 for carroll, then why havent we got 1 winger at least? I do however believe this summer will be incredible for the club.

{Editor Note: The owners funed the Carroll deal. The full £35m. Liverpool won't get the Fernando Torres money for up to 28 days I gather. They could have easily waited until the Torres money came through and used it to replace him in the Summer.}

Ed are we desperate for width I seem to remember a commentator mentioning that Dalglish likes to play the formation called the christmas tree formation.

so four defenders 3 midfielders two forwards and a striker heres what I think if I am right that Dalglish will go for.

Kelly- - Carragher- - Agger- - Johnson

- Meireles- - - - - - - - Lucas- - - -

- - - - - - -Gerrard- - - - - - - - -

- - - Suarez- - - - - - Pacheco- - - -

- - - - - - - Carroll- - - - - - - - - -

Obviously I could be wrong so don't slate me just what I believe he could play.

RED WILLY

{Editor Note: The Christmas tree formation is just the 4-3-3. We do need width but we'll have to address it in the Summer.}

01 Feb 2011 18:32:06

I just want to say that losing FT is a kick in the teeth but we will move on hasnt been the best this season anyway i for 1 wish that torres gets a prem and champ winners medals to be honest he deserves it for the goals he scored for us he knew we probably won't win anything for about 3 to 5 seasons so in my opinion hes
right to leave so good luck to FT

On to good news though if suarez can score in the PL and andy carroll can fulfil his potential we could be on to a winner Maybe add 2 wingers in the summer and BOOM we are back in the mix THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT
YNWA! ! ! ! !

01 Feb 2011 18:32:02
Cant Believe our ex no9's comments, He was the idol of the Kop, and even when his hart was clearly not in it, we all sung his name, he has snubbed our club and fans in the worst way i have known from a player, WORSE than Owen! Far worse, then you have Babel who has gone and arguably not given the chance in his favoured position (although i believe he was) commenting and wishing the club well for the future. A decent human being!

01 Feb 2011 18:30:55
Hey el nino go on take the filthy russian money i know were you can put along with all your teamates judas you sold your hide for the filthy russian money you you b*****d

01 Feb 2011 18:29:44

Torres says he would never say a bad word about liverpool, but in same interview he makes lfc out to be a little club .he says it was my destiny to play for a top club . cheeky b*****d.chelsea are not bigger or never will be bigger than liverpool football club.the lad is just a liar.when i heard he was first going i though never mind players come players go.but the more you think about it the little s**t has basically dragged lfc through the gutter. i really hope he fails at chelsea and they get knocked out of cl and they don't finnish in top 4 . but hey , , im not bitter , i will miss him but he could have conducted himself a bit better

01 Feb 2011 18:28:19
Hi Ed, thanks for keeping us up to date yesterday, mst've been mental. NESV, I feel, have kept to their word, I think they'd have backed KK in the transfares anyway. If the rumour about the talent scouts is true then they really are going to turn the Club around adn get us on the right track.

Question though Ed, Do you thinkthey'd have backed Kenny with the transfares if they weren't going to keep hi for the long-term?

{Editor Note: Not sure myself. I do think Kenny will get the job permanently myself though.}

01 Feb 2011 18:23:10

Ed You are wrong about Europa competition and Suarez's eligibility.

You have failed to read the last para of rule
Rule 18.18

Believe me I'm a lawyer used to reading this type of document! !

One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered, provided that the player has not been fielded:

− in the same competition for another club; or
− for another club that is currently in the same competition.

THIS PARA!

Furthermore, if the player's new club is playing in the UEFA Europa League, his former club must not have played in the UEFA Europa League at any
point in the current season.

Ajax have not played, past tense, in the Europa competition yet, therefore a strict application of the rule is that he is eligible.

01 Feb 2011 18:17:27

Suso now has squad number 35, any thoughts on this ed, as regards to wednesday?

{Editor Note: It is good to see him getting a squad number, hopefully he gets a few appearences.}

01 Feb 2011 18:16:54

Now that torres is gone and two new strikers came in, which formation will we use now? Will suarez play on the wing or in the hole behind Carroll?
Any thoughts ed?

{Editor Note: I still think Kenny will go with the 4-3-3 he's been playing. Using Carroll up front with Suarez and Kuyt as inside forwards.}

01 Feb 2011 18:15:28
"It is not perfect for me but we will see what happens and I only have good words about Liverpool.

"They made me a top player and gave me the chance to play at the top level.

"I will never say anything bad about Liverpool. I have been very happy there, but now the history is different and I am playing for Chelsea.

"If I have the chance to play, I will do my best for Chelsea and hopefully I can score." Guys come on, bitching anout torres isn't going to do anything. He is a genuine guy, and yes although his leaving does feel like a betrayal, it was the right move for him and for us. We should remember him as the fantastic footballer he was.

01 Feb 2011 18:13:01

Ark at torres saying it's his destiny to score against us on Sunday .hope saurez steals the show cause I think he is gna be the signing of the season thought I would be gutted if torres left bit I can't stop smiling i think team spirit gne be ten times better cmoooon u redssssss

01 Feb 2011 18:10:27
Ed Great Job Yesterday must have been difficult trying to control all rumours and updates, Anyhow

We have reduced the age of our squad
we have brought in a striker in the kk mould .
We have a big strong target man who will scare the crap out of most defences.
We know have a better nucleus of players that need some fine tuning in the summer, couple in couple out
We balanced the books in the window.
The owners backed KK with money that would have been used to service debt once over.
We should be looking to the future with optimism

Yes we lost FT but so what he is going to an ageing squad.If we thought we had to re invest then they need some serious money spent.

I know which club I would rather be at the moment.

REDFORLIFE

01 Feb 2011 18:09:48

When will Carroll can get back to play with us?

01 Feb 2011 18:07:14
Ed who do you think will line up in attack on sunday? Carroll won't be fit for a few weeks, bit worried we'll be a little light up top till then. .
what do you think? Desperate 4 a win sunday (and 2moro of course)

lfc bwp

{Editor Note: I think we'll play the formation we've played for a few weeks now, with Kuyt, Suarez and Maxi as the front three.}

01 Feb 2011 18:04:23
Hey ed, first great job yesterday thanks. Secondly I was just wondering if there is a chance that we actually signed Honda and it just hasn't been reported yet because he's still away with Japan?

{Editor Note: Not much chance of that mate, or I'm sure we would have known by now.}

01 Feb 2011 18:03:27
Could we be at risk of losing Pacheco in the summer if we don't give him more minutes on the pitch? ED do you see him being given more of a chance to show what he is capable of under KK?

Glov3z the Red

{Editor Note: If he doesn't get minutes under KK then I can see him moving on. But that's what I think.}

01 Feb 2011 18:01:28
{Editor Note: It could be done although I don't think Hazard would come. He seems to have his heart set on the Arsenal move.}

Lets not give up. He might be too expensive for Arsenal now.

01 Feb 2011 17:59:38

{Editor's Note: The financial fair play rules come in to effect 2014/ 15 using the financial information from the three previous seasons. As such, 2011/ 12 is the first season where compliance should be made. As such, this was the final window for that one last fling.}

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That is correct although between these dates, a net loss of £39m is allowed until break even in 2015. Owners are allowed to add a further £30m to their books although this can only be spent on infrastructure (ie. stadium, training facilities etc.)

the £30 million is to be reduced to £10 million a year after two years, and infrastructure costs are not taken into account

01 Feb 2011 17:58:59
- - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - - - -
kelly- - carra- - - - - -agger- - -mavinga

- - - - gerrard- - - -mierelless- - - - - -

johnson- - - - - - - - - - - - - -cole

- - - - suarez- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - carroll- - - - - - - - -

Is how i would line them up

bench

Gulacsi
wilson
aurelio
shelvey
lucas
pacheco
ngog

UCCM

01 Feb 2011 17:53:05

"01 Feb 2011 14:10:13
Does anybody know what the punishment is for breaking the fair play rules? If it's financial then City and Chelski will just pay the fine and spend like crazy!"

They can be barred from European competitions

AND arent allowed to buy players

01 Feb 2011 17:52:55
01 Feb 2011 17:26:59

Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Johnson

Lucas Gerrard

Kuyt Meireles Maxi

Suarez Caroll

This is the team that will line up against the Rent-Boys and Judas on sunday. Caroll will return to training soon. One final thing, thanks to the Ed's for yesterday . . . Great job!

+ Macca and Ed's any summer targets?

{Editor Note: I don't think the Summer will be in the minds of the people at the club just yet.}

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

So are we playing with 12 players then?? ?

This would be my team:

Reina

Kelly Carragher (Skrtel if hes not fit) Agger Aurellio

Johnson Gerrard Miereles J.Cole

Suarez Carrol

Subs: Kuyt, Maxi, Wilson, Soto, Pacheco, Shelvey, Jones

01 Feb 2011 17:52:38
01 Feb 2011 17:26:59 Reina Kelly Carragher Agger Johnson Lucas Gerrard Kuyt Meireles Maxi Suarez Caroll This is the team that will line up against the Rent- Boys and Judas on sunday. Caroll will return to training soon. One final thing, thanks to the Ed's for yesterday . . . Great job! + Macca and Ed's any summer targets?

I know its not clear in the paste. .but since when have we been able to field 12 players?

01 Feb 2011 17:51:40
Given the financi requirements of clubs now can we afford to buy Richards, hazard, LB and another winger as if I understand right our owmers will not be able to give us say 80 million to fund this. Will they have put money into the club already to cover this foe the summer

01 Feb 2011 17:50:57
Poor Suarez is being outshone by the Carroll-Torres situation, I hope he starts wednesday, and scores, he deserves some limelight

01 Feb 2011 17:50:23
In reply to:
Simple question:
Who does Torres know at Chelsea?

He knows Benayoun and actually mentions that he's looking forward to playing with Yossi again in his Chavski interview.

01 Feb 2011 17:50:16
Ed or macca have u heard anything about why torres decided leave when he did or how other players and kenny reacted to his transfer request? I heard that the squad refused to train with him and even talk to him have u heard anything like this from ur sources at the club? Im not too fussed he's gone just the way he did it but like kenny said no one is bigger than the club!

Big Si

{Editor Note: No-one seems to know the full extent as their are different stories.}

What stories have you heard then ed or can't you say?

Big Si

{Editor Note: Well the ones about him wanting to win trophies and the like. Others that he was tapped up and got the cash waved in his face. And others that there was tension between him, Carra and Gerrard because of his attitude.}

01 Feb 2011 17:50:10

Ed wats happened 2 the believable/ unbelievable and agree/ disagree buttons?

And i think carrol was a great signing, 35m, i don't care, he'll provide us as a striker for like 10 years.
Gerrard to clip the lofted passes, carrol to use his strength and hold it up, laying it off for suarez to score goal after goal.

Exciting times!

E.H LFC

{Editor Note: It's getting sorted mate.}

01 Feb 2011 17:46:37

- - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - -

Kelly- -Carragher- Agger- - Johnson

- - - - - Meireles- -Lucas- - - - - -

- - - - - - - -Gerrard- - - - - - -

- - - - - -Suarez- -Pacheco- - - -

- - - - - - - - Carroll- - - - - - -

This is how I would line them up. That is a very attacking 4-4-3. I really want Pacheco to get his chance and I think he has it in him. No wingers I know but fullbacks can supply width as well Meireles, Gerrard, Suarez, and Pacheco. All capable crossers. Plenty of depth at the midfield positions with Joe Cole, Shelvey, Poulson, and Spearing on the bench. As well as attackers with Kuyt, Ngog, and Jovanovic. Would you line them up differently?
Anfield Rapstar

01 Feb 2011 17:40:18

Ed, regarding the new financial rule in the summer, what does it really mean? Can we only spend from what we get from LFC net or include owner extra cash injection?

{Editor Note: I think at the end of each calendar year a club has to break even or face being excluded from Europe. I don't know them myself mate to be honest.}

01 Feb 2011 17:34:01

Great bit of business bringing in Carrol, I will have to be convinced on Suarez. But we still havn't solved our problems at centre half, that's where our priority should be, Skrtl, Agger, Soto and Carragher are not good enough or past it. We need 2 quality players with a goal threat from set piece Hangelund and Cahill will do for me.

01 Feb 2011 17:33:17
Come on sunderland take 3 points and then. .

i hope torr does score against us just so he can see were over him (which were not). then suraez smashes in 3 liverpool fans go crazy 4 suraez. oh and were only small club closing in on them fast and 4th. . . . i got a feeling the players will put a masive perfomance in for us, cause of judas. come on reds win 2mo and sunday will make my year. .

01 Feb 2011 17:33:00
Can't believe Torres. . he says he wanted to join a big club. Chelsea will never be as big as Liverpool, He said he wanted to win things. . Liverpool will rebuild, Chelsea have another season or two in that team and need to rebuild. Just as much chance here as there for the long term. He said he's destined to score against us next game. I thought the man had some class, but this just goes to show how little respect he has for Liverpool and the supporters. Hope were two nil up in the last minute, and he gets wiped out by Carra or Stevie G! Put the little p***k in his place!

We worship him for 3 and half years, and this is how he repays us! We stuck by him through the injuries and loss of form! He could have been a Legend, now he's just a dog end!

El Diablo

01 Feb 2011 17:31:52

I know carroll may have been a little over priced but i think we got abetter deal. two players that are of great quality now and will be of world class in a few years, plus we got rid of an inconsistent, injury prone striker. At least carroll and suarez will fight for the red shirt and will play with passion!

01 Feb 2011 17:26:59

Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Johnson

Lucas Gerrard

Kuyt Meireles Maxi

Suarez Caroll

This is the team that will line up against the Rent-Boys and Judas on sunday. Caroll will return to training soon. One final thing, thanks to the Ed's for yesterday . . . Great job!

+ Macca and Ed's any summer targets?

{Editor Note: I don't think the Summer will be in the minds of the people at the club just yet.}

01 Feb 2011 17:26:14

Why haven't you put my msg on the site? Suarez is f*******ing eligible!

{Editor Note: Why do people always spit the dummy out and come up with their conspiracy theories? Your message was put on the site so take the time and effort to look for it.}

01 Feb 2011 17:26:02

Players to target in the Summer:
Hazard - £15million
Honda - £12million (Shirt sales in Japan will increase revenue)
M'Villa - £15million
Taiwo - £Free }Total = £57million -
Marveaux - £Free (excluding
Cahill - £15million Lukaku)
-Lukaku - £20million (If Kuyt - £8million/ Ngog - £5millon are sold)
Players to Sell:
Aquilani - £10-15million
Konchesky - £1million
Degen - £1million }Total = £25million
El Zhar - £1million
Poulsen - £2million
Insua - £2-5million

TOTAL - 57 - 25 = 32MILLION spend (Not including Lukaku if purchased)

Possible Team:
Reina
Kelly Cahill Agger Taiwo
M'Villa or Honda
Hazard Gerrard Turan
Suarez Carroll

Subs:
Gulacsi
Carra
Shelvey
Johnson
Lukaku (Kuyt or Ngog)
Marveaux

+ One of - Pacheco/ Suso/ Coady/ Lucas

Talk about strength in depth. Thoughts ED? Realistic?

Glov3z the Red

{Editor Note: It could be done although I don't think Hazard would come. He seems to have his heart set on the Arsenal move.}

01 Feb 2011 17:24:46

Interesting body language from Torres.

Perhaps he has just found the article by Stan Collymore ?

Will history repeat itself aka Michael Owen ?

To quote Stevie G from the article below - who himself twice turned down Chelsea, put it best when he said that lifting trophies with the club meant "a lot more than winning seven or eight trophies somewhere else."From 'Click Liverpool' :-

Last night brought about the realisation that will haunt Fernando Torres for the rest of his career.

Minutes after breaking the British transfer record, he sat stonefaced in front of an in-house camera crew and expressed his delight at finally securing a move to Chelsea.

But as he talked about his switch being "destiny", the look of dread in his eyes that accompanied his monotone spiel suggested otherwise.

Somewhere amidst £50million worth of footballer sat a little boy lost from Fuenlabrada.

In that brief moment when it dawned on him that he had sold out on those core beliefs he had harboured growing up in the Madrid suburb, 'The Kid' truly lived up to his nickname.

It will live long in his memory as well as in those of the Liverpool supporters who feel betrayed by his deadline day defection to Stamford Bridge.

Torres went on record last summer, following his return from the World Cup, to dismiss fears that he was set to leave by insisting his commitment to Liverpool was no different to that on the day he arrived. Throughout the recording, his eyes beamed and so did his smile.

By comparison, his West London screen debut was morose and the attempted sideswipe at his former employers was another example of the child within trying to convince himself he had played no part in any wrongdoing.

Throughout his three-and-a-half-year stay at Liverpool, fans were hoodwinked by Torres's countless sound bites about how he was proud to play for a 'trabajador' - a humble, hard-working club in Spanish - and live in a city with an equally significant history.

But his decision to switch to a club whose general ethos is the complete opposite has shattered illusions within the fan base that he was 'one of them'. He was anything but.

It was perhaps testiment to the powers of persuasion 'Brand Torres' - the collective term used to describe the striker and his representatives Bahia Internacional in some private quarters - held over supporters to the point that every word he uttered was perceived as gospel.

In isolation, incidents such as the armband presented to him by friends, with the words 'We'll Never Walk Alone', just months before joining Liverpool appeared an innocent coincidence.

But the relentless PR offensive undertaken by Torres and Bahia has alerted Kopites to his possible motives and view this and other instances in an understandably cynical light.

Had he quit Anfield in the summer, when fears of administration loomed large under George Gillett and Tom Hicks' reign, his move would have been understood.

Engineering a move at the beginning of the transfer window as Roy Hodgson's short-lived tenure as manager was drawing to a close, too, would have been met with disappointment but also a begrudging acceptance given Liverpool's fortunes this season.

But to leave a club under the management of Kenny Dalglish, who has united all factions, and owners who are already backing up their pledge to make Liverpool great again with actions, speaks more about a player who had mentally checked out a very long time ago.

Like Michael Owen before him, Torres left Liverpool in a bid to collect silverware, but Steven Gerrard, who himself twice turned down Chelsea, put it best when he said that lifting trophies with the club meant "a lot more than winning seven or eight trophies somewhere else."

Owen's lasting legacy was tarnished by his actions and Torres has followed his predecessor in the Anfield front line down this particularly murky path. Liverpool had the last laugh and if recent history is a trustworthy benchmark, they will do so again.

Both had the potential to become eternal legends at Anfield but instead chose to pursue the gravy train in the hope of a quick fix. Owen found out this to his cost and in time Torres will too. The little boy from Fuenlabrada trapped within already knows this.

01 Feb 2011 17:24:36

Trawling around various sites. Carroll pictured with KK doing interviews - Suarez the same. On Torres it said he hadn't met Ancellotti yet!
Speaks volumes!

01 Feb 2011 17:21:02

I really think suarez is available
For Europa league as he hasn't played in it his year and he's only played champs league the new rules all players transferring in jan can and will be made eligable to play As they haven't been playing in the competition as they are starting to class them
As two different comps from three yrs away so you won't be able to go to Europa if you get put out of champs league
Simples! !

01 Feb 2011 17:19:26
01 Feb 2011 17:05:05
Its good to see liverpool strengthen their squad Carrol + Suarez in for injury prone torres is imo good business.
I am an Arsenal fan and i would be glad to see Liverpool back in the top 4 as i am fed up with the kid in a candy store attitude of ManC and as for the yids lol the sooner they go back to mid table the better

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As I Liverpool supporter, I agree.
I think I speak for us all when I say of the teams capable of winning the EPL THIS season, Arsenal would be the team most liked by us to win it (sorry but next season WE will)

01 Feb 2011 17:17:44

£175k a week and Torres still argued over his cut of shirt sales - of course he went to Chelsea to win things - greedy little sod.

He says he hopes he scores against us on Sunday - i hope he doesn't.

01 Feb 2011 17:16:56
If Carroll is bought for £35 Million. Why not Llorente, Aguero or Negredo ?

Anybody know why ?

I think its because, kk wants to reproduce, the toshack keegan partnership, but he wants to do it with two people who are grafters and will work hard, there both fighters. llorente aguero negredo are quality players but I don't think the route kenny wants. I do expect 2 quality wingers in the summer however. Id love to see us get Walcott and elia, not everyones cup of tea but serious pace, something we lack massively.

01 Feb 2011 17:16:38
Great job over the window and all year ed's! Don't let the idiots who think this is a factual news site get you down.

bdazla

01 Feb 2011 17:14:52
"If Carroll is bought for £35 Million. Why not Llorente, Aguero or Negredo ?

Anybody know why ?"

I think (it may have been Balague who mentioned it) we inquired about Llorente but he either wasn't ready/ willing to move or his President was still blocking any attempts from anyone to sign him (before his tenure ends). Aguero might have meant smashing our wage structure and would likely have taken all of the Torres cash once tax was taken into account, plus we already had Suarez who needs a target man to work off of. Negredo i do like but he hardly has a great goals to games record and likely Dalglish wanted someone he knew could take the physicality of the league. I think we overpaid, but pickings were slim, 11th hour, Jan window, not cup-tied etc all inflated the price.

01 Feb 2011 17:14:49

When kenny works his magic he will make suarez the new dalglish and caroll the new shearer now that would be some forward line

01 Feb 2011 17:14:33

Did we sign a player from milwall if so is he any good?

01 Feb 2011 17:13:43
01 Feb 2011 16:58:19
Torres "This is the target for every footballer - to try to play for one of the top clubs in the world and I can do it now. I have to be very, very happy as I am.

We worshipped this W***stain and he comes out with this.

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Agree, very disappointing as he will KNOW how this will upset the fans of him at LFC.
Tells you a lot about the man really.
One thing IS for sure, he will no longer be the top selling shirt in the world (as he was at LFC). He will soon realise (and his 'advisors') that Chelski only have a fraction of the support LFC have and they are NOT, in any way or manner, a bigger club than Liverpool Football Club. Anyone who thinks that is a delusional fool

01 Feb 2011 17:12:58
I know this is going to come across as a bit spiteful but does anyone else think it would be really funny that if Judas Torres plays on sunday and gets crunched in a 50 / 50 with SG or JC and is out for the rest of the season. Wouldn't that be justice! !

01 Feb 2011 17:11:57
His armband proved he was a red Suarez, Suarez

You'll never walk alone it says Suarez, Suarez,

He bought the band from a lad in spain,

Tall blonde hair, forgotten his name

Luis Suarez Liverpools number 7
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That's all well and good, but A. He doesn't wear an armband (that was Torres), he never has.
B. It doesn't rhyme!

Need a new song lads!

01 Feb 2011 17:11:57

Hey Ed just wondering what formation you think will Liverpool play now they have 2 proven strikers. .do you think they will stay the same and play Suarez on the left(4-3-3) or play 2 up front and probably sacrifice meireles or gerrard in a wide position to play a more defensive minded midfielder (4-4-2) because surely they can't play meireles and gerrard in there together that's too risky

Cheers Deano!

{Editor Note: I think Kenny will play 4-3-3, with Kuyt on the right, Suarez on the left and Carroll up top. Maybe a 4-4-2 with Gerrard on the right is possible.}

01 Feb 2011 17:11:01
Having maintained silence throughout the transfer window, I am writing by way of expressing my unwavering support for the club, the club's owners, King Kenny, and all of those players who pull on the red shirt. I also wish to thank our editors for their superb work. The signings we have made delight me, and so too does the dignity that Ryan Babel has displayed in the wake of his transfer. Less pleasing was the manner in which Fernando Torres left the club, but I am more disturbed to hear of fans burning Liverpool shirts simply because they carry Torres's name and number. Such acts display mistaken priorities. In burning the shirt, you are also burning the Liverpool badge, which represents everything our club stands for. The front of the shirt far outweighs the back. Turning to our new signings, I feel Kenny and the owners have reacted superbly by bringing in two extremely promising strikers, and another talented England youth international. NESV and Kenny seem united in their ambition. I am thrilled. As fans let's lift the names of our new players so high, they will never regret joining our great club. Let's make Anfield feel like their first home, let alone their second.

Red Owl

01 Feb 2011 17:09:00
01 Feb 2011 16:51:06
Simple question:
Who does Torres know at Chelsea?
When did the tapping up occur?
Don't think there are any Spanish players at Chelsea?
He WAS tapped up and yet the FA will NEVER chase those things.

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The Russian mafia man went down to the world cup in S Africa.
Thats when his (and his agents) 'head was turned' me thinks

01 Feb 2011 17:08:42
Ed or macca have u heard anything about why torres decided leave when he did or how other players and kenny reacted to his transfer request? I heard that the squad refused to train with him and even talk to him have u heard anything like this from ur sources at the club? Im not too fussed he's gone just the way he did it but like kenny said no one is bigger than the club!

Big Si

{Editor Note: No-one seems to know the full extent as their are different stories.}

01 Feb 2011 17:07:57
Fernando torres was his name,

torres, torres,

he wants to go improve his game,

torres, torres,

the champions league you'll never have,

. .so f*** off with the other chavs,

you lying, scummy w**ker. .chavski's number nine. . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

He's always got a dodgy knee ole ole

And now he's gone from LFC ole ole

He'll spend his days in the treatment room

Sat next to Yossi Benayoun

Fernando Torres Chelsea's new number nine!

TOP BANANA!

01 Feb 2011 17:07:09
Have a word sunshine, it strikes me your acting like the niave old woman who sees everything though rose (stars and stripes) tinted glasses. As ive said I'm happy with the two lads brought in but you have to ask yourself what would've happened if Torres hadn't been sold. Great months business for the owners. Marginal net spend and reduced the wage bill significantly. The other targets requiring realistic offers fell short as the owners weren't prepared to invest at the right level. So why all of a sudden are NESV the best thing since sliced bread?

NESV have always been good owners it didn't just happen during the transfer window. They brought in the manager everyone wanted, they have given the fans a say in the club. i don't care about net spend or wage bills all i care about is that we have a better team now than at the start of the transfer window.

01 Feb 2011 17:06:38
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01 Feb 2011 16:56:36

If Carroll is bought for £35 Million. Why not Llorente, Aguero or Negredo ?

Anybody know why ?

Surely Ever Banega, Arda Turan and Juan Mata must have been possibles?

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I think it was mainly AVAILABILTY.
I expect we will see some movement in the summer and I would expect at leats one of those (or a player of similar stature) to be with us then.
Rome wasn't rebuilt in a day. Kenny is at the helm now, keep the faith

01 Feb 2011 17:05:05
Its good to see liverpool strengthen their squad Carrol + Suarez in for injury prone torres is imo good business.
I am an Arsenal fan and i would be glad to see Liverpool back in the top 4 as i am fed up with the kid in a candy store attitude of ManC and as for the yids lol the sooner they go back to mid table the better.

01 Feb 2011 17:03:47

Let me give you guys my two cents regarding carrol and adams and the ol foe arry rednap. why carroll cost 35 mil? cause harry bid 25 for him the same day so we had to go higher

Why we bought him? cause kenny wanted to buy the right player and not just someone who would fill in for 6 months and he paid the price for it. and with el Fu**ero deciding so late he wanted to leave so late we had to panic buy but kk wanted to get the right player still

Charlie adam's deal was again f***ed for us by arry. he came in with late bids with more money so blackpool held out and since he just didn't want a rival to buy him and nothing else he withdrew claiming it was a technicality.

Also i think we pissed blackpool off with the initial low bids and then them seeing that we're buying carrol for 35

True Red

PS. as they say in hollywood i hope torres breaks a leg. mean it

01 Feb 2011 17:02:51

I posted a few days ago saying that Torres would definately be going, after learning from a mate who was at a party attended by a lot of the players who were talking about it.

He's also told me that Nando threatened to tell all about why he wanted to go if he wasn't allowed to leave. Hence the panic in getting a replacement and paying over the odds for Carroll and abandoning all other targets. If this had not been the case we would have packed in at £25m, and either looked elsewhere or kept Judas til summer.

But the owners knew he had to be let go and at the same time had to get a half decent replacement to apease the fans. Don't know what his reasons are but they certainly don't want us to know. I'm guessing it's something to do with a certain 2 other individuals in the team.

01 Feb 2011 17:00:24
Although Andy Carroll did not want to leave Newcastle. It is quite possible that it will improve his career as well as his wage packet.

His England career chances have improved quite a bit ?

I am sure we will have to play Aurelio and Johnson further forward to provide him with crosses.

We paid too much but I think he will prove a handful for other teams to deal with.

01 Feb 2011 16:58:19
Torres "This is the target for every footballer - to try to play for one of the top clubs in the world and I can do it now. I have to be very, very happy as I am.

We worshipped this W***stain and he comes out with this.

01 Feb 2011 16:57:53

Ed! Do you know the exact detail of FT deal? Will we get the full cash in one lump sum or installments?

{Editor Note: I think it'll be one lump sum, apparantly received in up to 28 days.}

01 Feb 2011 16:57:23
Eds, please can you tell me is it this summer 2011, spending is restricted to incomes

{Editor Note: I think it's taken over three years or something. But we'll be ok, we're debt free and not only do we break even, we make profits.}

01 Feb 2011 16:57:15

01 Feb 2011 15:41:49

Just noticed this in Carroll's first interview on LFC official site:

How much are you looking forward to making your Liverpool debut?

"I can't wait. I just need to get myself fit and then look forward to my debut. I'm just working in the gym at the moment and hopefully will start running soon. I just want to get started."

Just how long is he out for?between 4-5 weeks . . .if you listen to pardews interview on the sky sports website. . grrrrrr

01 Feb 2011 16:56:36

If Carroll is bought for £35 Million. Why not Llorente, Aguero or Negredo ?

Anybody know why ?

Surely Ever Banega, Arda Turan and Juan Mata must have been possibles?

Stan Collymore has told talkSPORT that Chelsea are taking a huge gamble if they sign Fernando Torres.
The Liverpool striker has been linked with a move to the Premier League champions and even handed in a transfer request in order to fast-track a move before the January transfer window closes on Monday night.
But former Liverpool frontman Collymore believes the Blues reported outlay of £50m on the injury-prone Spaniard could be a massive risk by a club desperate to salvage their season after falling out of the title race.
He said: "A £50m outlay plus £20m in wages for [Roman Abramovich] who has been reluctant to spend money in comparison to when he first came in represents a massive gamble on Chelsea's part.
"Because Fernando Torres's injury record isn't particularly great that £50m or £60m could be used to strengthen in other areas.
"It's much like the Darren Bent scenario with Aston Villa. Yes, spend £18m for a goalscorer but only if you continue to add in the other areas."
Collymore also insisted disenchanted Reds fans need to trust in Kenny Dalglish and the board to do what is right for the club, adding: "The biggest thing for Liverpool fans is to trust Kenny Dalglish and the board because they aren't going to let Fernando Torres go without getting top dollar and having two or three other players in mind.
"And if they don't come right now, don't worry about it because I'm pretty sure they'll come at the end of the season and continue what is very much a rebuilding process at Liverpool.
"£50m is massive for Liverpool at the moment, it will get players back on board, they have a quality one in Luis Suarez, and it's just a case of keeping the faith.
"Kenny Dalglish will have had a target list for the end of the season so maybe it might be a case of paying over the odds and trying to get one or two of those in now.
"If Fernando Torres stays and his heart isn't in it what value is that to Liverpool come the end of the season.
"Yes he's probably in the prime of his career, yes he scores a lot of goals, yes he's idolised by the Kop but £50m whether it be now or at the end of the season, maybe plus a player or two, he represents top of the market.
"If Fernando Torres has intimated that he wants to go then Kenny Dalglish and the board at Liverpool will be looking at potential targets. Don't forget they've already got Luis Suarez in the door.
"If you look at Liverpool and Chelsea in terms of getting the best deal � Chelsea need to rejuvenate their squad but they're putting a hell of a lot of money and faith in one player."

01 Feb 2011 16:55:57

Fernando torres was his name,

torres, torres,

he wants to go improve his game,

torres, torres,

the champions league you'll never have,

. .so f*** off with the other chavs,

you lying, scummy w**ker. .chavski's number nine. . . .

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He's always got a dodgy knee ole ole

And now he's gone from LFC ole ole

He'll spend his days in the treatment room

Sat next to Yossi Benayoun

Fernando Torres Chelsea's new number nine!

01 Feb 2011 16:53:29

18.18 One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered provided that the player has not been fielded:
− in the same competition for another club; or
− for another club that is currently in the same competition.

Right so has he played in the ecup or have ajaxs not played yet in the comp cause they were in cl. if he has not been fielded in the uefa cup for ajaxs then he can 4 us.

01 Feb 2011 16:51:58

All over the place its abt andy carroll 35 millions? joke rubbish . .and alllll

but it was not abt money. never .football is played on the pitch not in banks . . lfc showed every body they can compete here also. .and r not going to bow to any xyz. let it be torres whoever

its a straight msg to whole Europe and to footballing worlds lfc r still big in money and ambition

it was abt showing world we r big enough still there and want to achieve something .

many will point out abt carroll move critisize it. .but he and liverpool r on the front page of january transfer window in big letters with a swagger and attitude that was lost somewhere

01 Feb 2011 16:51:12

From what is being said is it right to assume that saurez becomes eligible for Europa league if ajax were to get knocked out? Shed any light ed? Nice one

Wavertree red

{Editor Note: I don't think he is.}

01 Feb 2011 16:51:06
Simple question:
Who does Torres know at Chelsea?
When did the tapping up occur?
Don't think there are any Spanish players at Chelsea?
He WAS tapped up and yet the FA will NEVER chase those things.

01 Feb 2011 16:49:48
"01 Feb 2011 16:22:42
Torres comments on moving to chelsea:

"I am joining a team that is at the top level. There is not another level after Chelsea."

The only player to leave Liverpool for a BIGGER club yesterday was Paul Konchesky to forest who HAVE won two European titles TWO more than Chelsea!"

MAGNIFICENT POSTING!
Just wish I could have dreamt that one up.

01 Feb 2011 16:48:49
Premierships leading scorers this season so far:

A.Carroll (YNWA) - 3rd

Torreski (chasin £££'s) - 10th

Who got a bum deal in the transfer window?

BigBadBen

01 Feb 2011 16:48:07
I hope Torres plays against us on sunday. .so we can crunch that p**sy!

01 Feb 2011 16:47:26

Hi Ed's,

done some research on the Suarez Europa league eligibilty and found this

18.18 One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered provided that the player has not been fielded:
− in the same competition for another club; or
− for another club that is currently in the same competition.

As Ajax are in the Europa League Suarez cannot play for us. If they had qualified for the next round of the champions league then he would have been ok.

I've included my email so if you want the link for the full set of regulations let me know.

Please post on the rumours page

KopIdol {ed's note - I know mate, I have been trying to point out his ineligibility for a while!}

Yeah but he hasnt played for Ajax in Europa yet.

Matt Wollacott

01 Feb 2011 16:47:12

When news of interest in Suarez first broke, I remember a post saying "if suarez signs, Torres will leave" I thought it was a bit bizzare at the time and was suprised as it was at least week before the press got hold of any offer from chelsea and at the time there was no hint of what was to come, don't remember who said it but. . Someone on here is obviously pretty well connected either with Torres, or the club. But if it's with the club. . . . . .Grassy Knoll? ?

01 Feb 2011 16:45:16
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01 Feb 2011 16:16:56
Go to SSN website and watch John Aldridge's interview and he'll explain it for you, all though i suppose you know more than him don't you? Got your little ''Yanks Out'' flag ready for tommorrow? With fans like you who needs the Manc and Everton fans?

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I've just seen it, John doesn't mention the merit of the owners, he expresses an opinion as to what a good signing Carroll is, something which I wouldn't dispute. The point I'm trying to make is where's the intent from the owners? Carroll wouldn't have happened if Torres wasn't sold. The Adam debacle demonstrates their intent, i.e. there is none unles theres an incoming fund. Big loss not signing Adam, he would've been the icing on the cke and big addition to the type of culture we need in the dressing room. For £10 mill, still a shrewd buy but NESV wouldn't stump up.

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Thats your opinion. I trust the opinion of LFC officals who are professionals. Kenny is back. If he thinks he is not worth £10m, that's good enough for me.
I think the problem was the p@ick Oyston trying to get one over on Adam.
Never know we might get Alonso back in the summer!

01 Feb 2011 16:43:25

Ssn said earlier torr can play in the cl so i don't see why it should be different the other way.

also remember when owen was going, raf put him on the bench cause of RM did not wanting cup tied (not that it mattered-lol)
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I know expect josie mourinio to take back over in the summer off the chesh!t, carlos has said torr and luis were not the plan he had.

01 Feb 2011 16:42:24
Torres saying on bbc hes looking forward to banging goals in against us and its destiny, p***k i hope carra kicks s**t out of him,

01 Feb 2011 16:42:01
I can't believe some of the s**t I am reading on here this afternoon.

Just three points I want to make:

1. Thank you to John Henry, Tom Werner and NESV for making us feel good again and doing what you came in to do - make us powerful again.

2. Thank you eds - without you, there wouldn't be a place for these knockers, whingers, whiners and clowns to bitch and ask for Rafa back and Torres to stay!

3. Torres plays for Chelsea. No need to discuss him on a Liverpool site!

Steve Parker

01 Feb 2011 16:41:15
These two boys up top are fighters and they are the start of the return to our rightful place as no1. Joined a big team yep you believe that fernando t****r we'll see! ! !

01 Feb 2011 16:40:46
01 Feb 2011 15:03:14
Whats this obsession with Llorente.

1 How do you know he wanted to come.
2 Have you ever really watched him play.
3 On what basis is he better than Carroll.

Macca

i totally agree macca , llorente is older than carroll , i don't think he is as strong as carroll , carroll seems to be better in the air than llorente , i would prefer a tough young english centre forward with some premier league experience , then llorente without a doubt. andy carroll could be the future of england and the future of liverpool. suarez and carroll both give us something torres never has , and that's 100% all the time , torres under roy hodgson was dreadfull , so lazy sulky and moody. suarez and carroll partnership will be awesome because they both give us something different and give us different options.

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Surez and Carroll are going to scare the s**t out of the Prem defences.
For far too long some teams have been able to 'bully' us. No more (more like our attack will bully THEM). Still a couple of 'weak links' but their on their way out.
Kenny is THE man. He knows what he's doing, a couple of more signings in the summr (quality such as Hazard, Mata type / level) and the fantastic kids and young players coming through, I do think we are at the beginning of a new 'golden age' for the most succesful team in the history of English football.
The pansy press know this and will do all their spinning to make everything we do look negative.
It US against them again, love it, because I know who will win.
Keep the faith, we have new owners who DO know how to run a football club in the 21st century and we have the King back!

01 Feb 2011 16:36:55

Ed, do you know when Andy Carroll will be fit to play?

{Editor Note: No idea mate.}

01 Feb 2011 16:33:14

His armband proved he was a red Suarez, Suarez

You'll never walk alone it says Suarez, Suarez,

He bought the band from a lad in spain,

Tall blonde hair, forgotten his name

Luis Suarez Liverpools number 7

01 Feb 2011 16:30:48

To those moaning about the owners not spending enough, Chelsea offered 50m to buy torres off us which we had to accept because it is in his buyout clause - this was 2 days before transfer window deadline (why would we try to spend 50m as quickly as we can and not get good deals).
If the Torres deal didn't happen and the owners bought Adam then we would have spent about 32M overall - stop moaning! We'll get more players in the summer.
Olly

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The situation is though, the torres deal DID happen and Charlie DIDN'T happen. I know they tried but we are desperate for width. Unfortunately a net spend of 2mil doesn't look good on the owners. I know they were trying to splash the cash but if there happy to pay 35 for carroll, then why havent we got 1 winger at least? I do however believe this summer will be incredible for the club.

{Editor Note: The owners funed the Carroll deal. The full £35m. Liverpool won't get the Fernando Torres money for up to 28 days I gather. They could have easily waited until the Torres money came through and used it to replace him in the Summer.}

01 Feb 2011 16:30:16

Hi eds, I have been addicted to this site since 2008 and have to say its brilliant and you are doing an excellent job. . But it is my first time posting any thing on the site. . I have a question, I personally think to replace torres you need a player with the same ability, some one who can create a goal from nothing and also have the ability to take players on someone like Aguero who I thought would have been a great replacement. I know Carrol is a different type of a player but with Suarez what is he like I have only seen his videos on youtube, Is he a player who can dribble and take players on and socre goals from nothing or is he dependant on good wingers giving him crosses (like carrol will need). If he requires wingers then we are doomed as we don't have any quality wingers. .Sorry for the long msg. .
KS

01 Feb 2011 16:29:53

This is theturdz speaking
the plastic flag waving chelski fans turned out in force to welcome torres to the bridge last night all 12 of them meanwhile up at anfield andy carroll was mobbed by the adoring lfc fans we know a hero when we get one hes going to be massive for us and only 22 can't wait till he settles in hes got the right manager and coaches around him also carra and stevie g to help in on his way don't forget his mates at newcastle scouses joey barton and kev nolan will also give him advice on what it means to play for the mighty reds.
good times ahead for lfc onwards and upwards we go

01 Feb 2011 16:29:14
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01 Feb 2011 16:24:52

Camolli?
whats his job?

{editor: Director of Football Strategy.}

WELL HES DOING A FINE JOB AT THAT THEN.
fottball strategy my ass!

01 Feb 2011 16:22:42
Torres comments on moving to chelsea:

"I am joining a team that is at the top level. There is not another level after Chelsea."

The only player to leave Liverpool for a BIGGER club yesterday was Paul Konchesky to forest who HAVE won two European titles TWO more than Chelsea

01 Feb 2011 16:18:46
Can't believe Torres said that Chelsea were on a completely different level and were a bigger club, Chelsea will never be as big a club as Liverpool. I am personally glad to get rid of the mercenary and can't wait for Sunday to see Carra get at him, and for Liverpool to win and rub the little traitor's nose in it.

01 Feb 2011 16:18:10
I'd be very disappointed with our fans on Sunday if they booo Torres. He was brilliant for us. I'm sad to see him go but he will soon realise that Chelsea fans our cockheads, and when he looks back in a few years he will regret it. We will be back at the top with the king in charge.YNWA

01 Feb 2011 15:49:53
Please stop criticising the owners. What more could they have done?
The Suarez deal was going to take place anyway and when Torres decided to leave they went over the top to provide a replacement. They could have done a Mike Ashley and said there wasn't enough time to find a replacement ( I bet Newcastle don't spend half of that £35 million in the summer) but they made the Carroll deal happen. Please tell me how they are saving on wages when Carroll + Suarez = 170K per week and Torres was on 110K a week.
They were also willing to buy Adam for more than he is worth but Blackpool put the blocks on it.

Harry J

01 Feb 2011 15:49:30
"They have spent a lot of money on getting me here and I just want to repay them for what they have spent. I'll do my best and think I can do it. I want to win trophies with this club and help push us forward."

- -Andy Carroll's message to Liverpool fans.

(P.S. Try to spell his name correctly. He is our, Liverpool's player for Godssake! )

01 Feb 2011 15:43:22
If we're being honest, the writing was on the wall as soon as Roy Hodgson was appointed. Torres wasn't going to stay anywhere where the manager had no openly positive things to say, and his decision to leave was set in stone. What disgusts me about Nando's move to Chelsea is that he hasn't even had the decency to agknowledge the fans he's left behind, fans who idolised him even when he wasn't on form. Instead, he's chosen to state how he feels he's moved to a 'big club'?? Chelsea are nothing of the kind, they are a plastic club with plastic fans and hardly any unity and a couple of bought trophies. Torres has left a massive club behind with a wealth of success, tradition and unity, not only in the club but between the club and fans that Chelsea can only wish that they had and will never achieve or buy. I believe that he is in for a rude awakening at Chelsea, and will rue the day he ever decided to leave our mighty club.

01 Feb 2011 15:38:55

Well thank god it'sall over, for now anyway

Thanks to the americans, Kenny and Commolli for all your hard work. It is simple really, after recieving 50mill from chelsea we were never going to be able to buy 4 or 5 players as all our targets prices would have doubled so they prioritised buying a mammoth striker who is young and deadly to be supported by the pacy and aggresive, but great finisher in Luis Suarez.

To the ''fans'' giving the owners stick about not actually spending out of their own pockets listen to this. .

We persuid and then signed Suarez before Torres talks had taken place and we did try to keep him so he wasnt bought as a replacement for Torres, he was bought to form a partnership with him.

Torres is gone, good riddance. he was a great player, yes, but he will never be bigger then liverpool football club, no one will.

We paid a bigger fee then expected for Carroll but I remember a curtainrooney being signed by the mancs after 1 good season with the blue noses and he managed to do ok, so I have every faith in Carroll.

The bottom line is this, we now have a quality strike partnership who have half a season to gel, then a full pre season together which willbe the time the americans spend big againand bring in 2 quality wingers. Young and Turan will sign im sure they will for a combined fee of about £30-40 million.

We are on our way back with kenny in charge, so to all the sceptic's still not happy, have some faith will ya.

LFC Till I Die

01 Feb 2011 15:38:03
"That statement is, liverpool is run by a bunch of idiots. They know nothing about football and have managed to over pay for the boy Carrol. Harry Redknapp almost rolled over laughing at the amount lfc paid for him. The rest of the world is thinking the same. They will see liverpool coming in the following windows. Very disappointing

I know Kenny wants to play Long ball football. Try to win it by one goal. They football will be so rubbish from now on. That the fans will want rafa style of play. I want to see good football. I haven't seen it in years. Now we are going to turn into a long ball team."

What type of monkey wrote this? Total Nonsense.

Carroll was bought using Roman dosh. Frankly, I don't care how much he cost. But I am really pleased that the King and NESV etc acted quick in signing him. This will have given everyone a boost. And he looks a handfull. And he won't mind getting stuck in. Lets just hope he stays out of trouble.

Also, why would the King want one dimensional football? Which of the teams he played in or managed were one dimensional?

I am thinking though that Kenny will want hard grafters like himself and his previous team mates so am not surprised to see Carroll, Suarez and interest in Adam.

Rormac

01 Feb 2011 15:37:09
Just a few points: Firstly to the Editors, well done for keeping a great addictive forum runninng especially when you get unfair abuse, the site is for rumour and banter. Secondly some people are so negative about the way the club is being run. Short memories! The previous owners nearly destroyed us and FSG are building the club back up and think with KK back at the helm we will make more progress in the second half of the season which will be reinforced in the summer with more players. This should see us ready for a top four challenge. Thirdly the purchases of Suarez and Carroll I believe to be good business, as both have future sell on values due to their ages and talent. Lastly Torres has shown a lot of disrespect to the fans and club, the club and fans are and will always be bigger and better than any player. His comments have made KK team talk easy on Sunday! We do not need players of that character at our club, hope Carra (if fit) and Stevie show him the error of his ways on Sunday, those plastic rent boy supporters are welcome to him. Suarez to show him what desire and passion is wearing KK's number 7.

EVO YNWA

01 Feb 2011 15:36:38
Go to SSN website and watch John Aldridge's interview and he'll explain it for you, all though i suppose you know more than him don't you? Got your little ''Yanks Out'' flag ready for tommorrow? With fans like you who needs the Manc and Everton fans?

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Ive been a Liverpool fan since I was 7 years of age and stood on the Kop initially with my grandad from 1978, first game being against Birmingham when we lost 3-2 and David Johnson got sent off. I've seen players come and go and ive seen ownership swap hands. Ive got an opinion and untill they prove otherwise I havn't got the time of day for foreign owners who have no allegiance to the club besides financial gain. Its niave fans like you the club don't need who get sucked in by rhetoric because you wouldn't be break down a financial transaction unless it slapped you in the face. In fact I'd go as far to stay that the country's in the mess it is due to voter apathy from people like you who no doubt believed the spin from this coalition and are now whinging saying that we were lied to. Well if people worked it out for themselves in the first place rather than being taken in by nonsense, we, the people, may have a degree of control over things.

01 Feb 2011 15:36:30
At least we should get to see Luis and Andy over the next few years in their prime as scoring machines. Welcome and good luck to you both.

I would play Joe Cole on the left of Luis against Stoke. . Kenny obv been waiting for him to be 100% and he's needed now to run and create and score. If you get a chance Joe don't die wondering.

I'd put Aurelio down the left and Maxi on the right.

4-3-3

Reina (GK)

Kelly Kyrgiakos/ Skrtel Agger Johnson

Maxi Meireles Aurelio

Gerrard (c)

Suarez Cole

Save Carra, Lucas, Kuyt and Carroll (hope he'll br fit) for the Chelsea game

01 Feb 2011 15:35:51
Team for tomorrow vs stoke!

Reina
Kelly Carra Agger Johnson

Kuyt Gerrard Lucas Maxi

Meireles

Suarez

With Gerrard, maxi and Kuyt with more or less free roles when attacking but keepin a tight shape when defending! What do you all think? ?

01 Feb 2011 16:16:56
Go to SSN website and watch John Aldridge's interview and he'll explain it for you, all though i suppose you know more than him don't you? Got your little ''Yanks Out'' flag ready for tommorrow? With fans like you who needs the Manc and Everton fans?

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I've just seen it, John doesn't mention the merit of the owners, he expresses an opinion as to what a good signing Carroll is, something which I wouldn't dispute. The point I'm trying to make is where's the intent from the owners? Carroll wouldn't have happened if Torres wasn't sold. The Adam debacle demonstrates their intent, i.e. there is none unles theres an incoming fund. Big loss not signing Adam, he would've been the icing on the cke and big addition to the type of culture we need in the dressing room. For £10 mill, still a shrewd buy but NESV wouldn't stump up.

01 Feb 2011 16:16:16

Why were fans burning torres shirts?. to be honest it kinda made me sick and embarressed. same thing when gerrard left. torres turned his back on us i understand that but how can some fans burn his shirt. that i will never understand.

01 Feb 2011 16:15:47

To those moaning about the owners not spending enough, Chelsea offered 50m to buy torres off us which we had to accept because it is in his buyout clause - this was 2 days before transfer window deadline (why would we try to spend 50m as quickly as we can and not get good deals).
If the Torres deal didn't happen and the owners bought Adam then we would have spent about 32M overall - stop moaning! We'll get more players in the summer.
Olly

SO WHY DIDNT WE BUY ADAM WHEN WE HAD MORE MONEY TO SPEND?

01 Feb 2011 16:11:29
Reading some of the posts on here about the signings we made last night are shocking, support whoever wears our red shirt and forget about the little t**t who caused all of this in the first place, he can't even thank us for the support we had shown him over the last 18 months, he showed never be welcomed back at Anfeild, hope Carra does him on Sunday. Liverpool to win 2-1

01 Feb 2011 16:07:55
01 Feb 2011 15:25:46
Reina

Kelly Carra Agger Jonhson

Lucas

Meriles Gerrard Suarez Carroll ColeMacca

macca you not only good at posting rumours, you now want on the team playing beside cole as an extra man

nmac

01 Feb 2011 16:07:03
Guy's for Liverpool to succeed we need further investment. We should be happy we have two strikers for the price of one and in my opinion at least we will be able to play the ball long when we have to and hold up play, very useful if you are 1-0 up and all hands to the pumps. I feel this is a positive and Luis Suarez has all the potential to be the next Torres, he is an exceptional finisher and knows where the goal is.

I for one am still reserving my judgement on our owners until after the summer transfer window. We still need some more class to come in, especially in the wide areas. I would also like to see some of their own money spent to make sure we get the 3-4 key players in the summer, that will allow us to challenge for the title. If we just sign the one, with the Aqua money and other sales, I will not be a happy chap and neither should anyone else be. Remember they still need to invest in other infrastructure, (stadium) which has not happened yet. I am sure it will and I am being pessimistic, but the longer we are out of Champions League Football and not competing for the title, the further the club will fall into mediocrity and Liverpool will just be another team making up the numbers in the Premiership. That for me would be an unacceptable position and would leave us with little to no worldwide support.

01 Feb 2011 16:02:55

In relation to this Sw AC "text" what a load of absolute b******t. what kind of a person would post that about their so called 'friend'. Yes he did not want to go and i hugely admire that about andy carroll but he looked pretty happy last night with kk. nt believe this rubbish!
DCG

01 Feb 2011 16:02:54

Would people stop complaining about Comolli. His job is to scout and get the transfers through. Just because we paid what some people say is over the odds for 2 players, everyone is going on about him not doing his job properly. What if he decided that the price was too high and we didn't get them? What if we were left with a disgruntled F.T. and lost him in the summer for 25m and couldn't get a replacement? What if Spurs got Carroll and someone else got Suarez? We would look like a skinflint miserable tightwad club unwilling to act like a BIG CLUB and buy what we feel are the best players! The Adams deal was unnegotiable for us as the Blackpool chairman was busy playing with Adams future in revenge for Adams taking them to court in the summer. Watch Blackpool disintegrate between now and the summer as the chairman has broken promises to Adams and Holloway(who would have been due money from Adams sale). Both are upset to say the least!

01 Feb 2011 16:01:29

Dalglish signed Alan Shearer in 1992 and he led Blackburn to the title. Shearer had had 3 seasons in Southampton's first team. In 89-90 Shearer scored three goals in 26 games. In 90-91 it was four in 36. In 91-92 it was 13 in 41. But the British transfer record was smashed for Shearer when he signed for Blackburn at exactly the same age Carroll is signing for Liverpool. By the time he moved Shearer had appeared three times for England, Carroll so far once. In real terms it's a ridiculous figure, but in football terms Dalglish knows exactly what he's doing. He wouldn't waste Liverpool's money, and he had the chance to back out when Newcastle turned down £30m. He matched Newcastle's valuation because he knows he's signing the real deal.

We will NOT miss Torres! He is a ladyboy parasite!
Souness 11

01 Feb 2011 16:01:00
Go to SSN website and watch John Aldridge's interview and he'll explain it for you, all though i suppose you know more than him don't you? Got your little ''Yanks Out'' flag ready for tommorrow? With fans like you who needs the Manc and Everton fans?

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Im quite sure John Aldridge isn't going to burn his bridges with the owners by denouncing them is he! Have a word with yourself pal.

01 Feb 2011 15:57:47

A club that has already said they intend to buy young players and sell on at a profit.

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Sorry but you're out of order with that. The cl;ub has NEVER said this. They want to reduce the average age of the squad and get value for money. That means that by buying young and having players over the length of a contract or longer, they aren't shelling out zillions every year for players who only play for 2-3 years.
Don't slag off the LFC owners on a hunch - use facts instead and you'll earn some respect around here.
And tell me how on earth they plan to make a profit on Andy Carrol after spending £35m?? No one will pay more than this in the future, especially with the Financial Fair Play rules coming in.
)Tikmeister(

01 Feb 2011 15:56:07

I must say good luck Fernando you really have done everyone proud in a red shirt you are a truly great forward and will go down in Liverpool history

El nino number 9

One of the best strikers to grace our historic pitch.

Jake,

Forever red.

01 Feb 2011 15:55:36
When will carrol make debut

01 Feb 2011 15:55:04

35 Million for a player who don't want to be hear!
Not his fault not blaming him but its like when fowler didn't want to go his heart just wanst in Leads or city
not the best buissness
should have made Nando stay till summer and made him go abroad
and Bid for aguero and Young and should have made sure we got Adam

01 Feb 2011 15:54:45

With regards to questions about Suarez's eligibility

Rule 18.18

One player from the above quota of three who has played UEFA club
competition matches for another competing club in the current season may
exceptionally be registered, provided that the player has not been fielded:

− in the same competition for another club; or
− for another club that is currently in the same competition.

Furthermore, if the player's new club is playing in the UEFA Europa League, his former club must not have played in the UEFA Europa League at anypoint in the current season.

Ajax have not played in the Europa competition yet, therefore a strict application of the rule would rule be that he is eligible.

01 Feb 2011 15:50:55

Anybody know how Carrol's is? AKA what will be his first game? -Mc

01 Feb 2011 15:41:49

Just noticed this in Carroll's first interview on LFC official site:

How much are you looking forward to making your Liverpool debut?

"I can't wait. I just need to get myself fit and then look forward to my debut. I'm just working in the gym at the moment and hopefully will start running soon. I just want to get started."

Just how long is he out for?

01 Feb 2011 15:32:44
NESV? Torres to Chelsea? Andy Carroll? Precocious talent? Dont quote me on that!

01 Feb 2011 15:30:58
Guys. . calm . .down. .calm down. .

I think this has been a brilliant piece of Business. .

Suarez, 49 goals last season, 33 in 34 in the league. .

OK, so its not going to be as easy in the prem. . but hey how about we put him down for 15 goals. I think he'll be in the 20s myself. .but lets say 15. . he's also a brilliant playmaker and a complete handful. . if you haven't watched his videos you should, he's prolific and can score from anywhere and they are NOT tap ins. .

and Carroll. . ok so a few disciplinary problems, but hey he's 21! living in Newcastle. . give him a break. .if i was a pro living in Newcastle. . i reckon id have got into a fair bit of trouble as well and i'm not a thug!

But this season he has played 19 and scored 11, that means with 38 games he's on 22! that means he's a 20 goal a season man. .at the age of 21! Thats better than Shearer! He's got amazing potential!

I've watched the videos of him and he's amazing in the air and not bad on the ground either, he'll also cause lots of problems, take up 2 defenders on every set piece and we will have Suarez sniffing around him to pick up the pieces. . awesome!

Last time we had a partnership like this was Fowler and collymore. and boy did they produce. .

hats off to KK, great business and as for Torres. . He's been great for us, spoilt it at the end, but he's had so many broken promises that i can't really blame him. . personally i think we should give him a cheer when he comes out for Chelsea and show what fantastic supporters and what an incredible club we actually are!

01 Feb 2011 15:29:47

Some of the comments posted on here and people being critical towards Macca and the Ed's are over the top. This is a friendly rumour and banter website with a bit of the odd truth (Macca)

Last summer I have never felt so low as a supporter. The club I loved was in a financial mess, we had players who lacked heart and desire, we had players who wanted to be elsewhere. Mistakes continued to be made with the appointment of Roy Hodgson.

During the first part of the season the issues began to surface, Torres's performances were a disgrace, his body language showed it. You could see it when you went the match, you could hear people like Aldo talk about it, Sky would report on it. He was giving nothing. Macca would probably know better but the atmosphere in the changing room must have been bad. We lost Mascherano who never wanted to play and is now happy to sit on a bench. As a team we were sinking faster than the Titanic. Some supporters turned on players who cared about the club (Kuyt, Lucas etc)

In October and the change of ownership began the long recovery of Liverpool FC. Yes performances were bad but in January Kenny returned. He has brough the club back together, people are working together, I feel as though this is my club again. The owners are listening.

Look, if we had sold the Torres of 2 seasons ago I would be gutted, if we had sold Babel of 2007 (he still had promise) I would be gutted. But in all honesty what have they contributed in the last 18 months? NOTHING

What we have now is 2 players that want to be here. 2 Players that will fight for the shirt. We have a great manager who is improving things (his press conferences are fab). We have really spent £2mill in this transfer window transforming our strikeforce that is good business makes sound financial sense.

In the summer we will bag a few more quality signings. make no mistake this football club is on its way back. Yes we will suffer a few more dissapointments along the way but next season will be a good one. I listened to redknapp this morning talking about Chelsea and then talked about Carroll. He is worried about us. I have no doubts Torres will regret his decision, Tom Werner and John Henry won't in appointing Kenny

01 Feb 2011 15:29:01
01 Feb 2011 15:03:14
Whats this obsession with Llorente.

1 How do you know he wanted to come.
2 Have you ever really watched him play.
3 On what basis is he better than Carroll.

Macca

i totally agree macca , llorente is older than carroll , i don't think he is as strong as carroll , carroll seems to be better in the air than llorente , i would prefer a tough young english centre forward with some premier league experience , then llorente without a doubt. andy carroll could be the future of england and the future of liverpool. suarez and carroll both give us something torres never has , and that's 100% all the time , torres under roy hodgson was dreadfull , so lazy sulky and moody. suarez and carroll partnership will be awesome because they both give us something different and give us different options.

01 Feb 2011 15:25:46
Reina

Kelly Carra Agger Jonhson

Lucas

Meriles Gerrard Suarez Carroll ColeMacca

01 Feb 2011 15:25:29
I overslept and the nurse just woke me up. What the f**k happened? Torres dyed his hair and left us, Voronin dyed his hair and he's back! Its all gone mad!

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

01 Feb 2011 15:17:35

To all the doubters about andy carrol and dalglish making this signing.

keeny knows what he is doing and his record speaks for itself.

shearer to blackburn from southampton transfer record
barnes to liverpool from watford tranfer record
beardsley and many more

01 Feb 2011 15:17:27

He was a red and now he's blue Torres Torres
He was a red and now he's blue Torres Torres
He was a red and now he's blue
Just wait til Carra smashes you
Fernando Torres Judas piece of Sh1te

Ha ha, ALL SING THIS SUNDAY.

01 Feb 2011 15:15:32
Can't believe all these ignorant fans complaining about the owners only spending what the club bought in.

1- as already mentioned, they could have pocketed it ( alonso style)

2 - I am pretty sure the Torres money has not been paid in full up front - so where did the money come from?? ?
So give credit where credit is due and be thankful for two great signings that we could not have imagined 12 months ago

01 Feb 2011 15:15:09

My feeling is Man Utd would not sell any of their best players to Chelsea, they wouldn't sell Heinze to us. We should have insisted on Torres moving abroad or not atall.

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Juan Veron?
Mark Hughes?

well veron was a fukin s**t buy an fergie was probably glad to see him go an at the time hughes was playin chelsea werent the supposed force they are now

01 Feb 2011 15:12:51

Hi ed, just wondering in your opinion what our best starting 11 would be now given everybody fit. thanks

{editor: I would play: Riena, Kelly, Carra, Agger and Johnson. Gerrard and Meireles. Kuyt Suarez and Maxi and Carroll up top in a 4-2-3-1 formation. Suarez would work best if he was in the 'Gerrard role' just behind a less mobile Andy Carroll.}

01 Feb 2011 15:09:23
Fair enough, i wasn't suggesting censorship, just wanted to know if our support had turned into a group of old women overnight or if it was a case of a lone nutter starting the anti-NESV bandwagon prematurely. Keep up the good work, i bet you have to read a lot more of that type of thing than ever hits the site.

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Have a word sunshine, it strikes me your acting like the niave old woman who sees everything though rose (stars and stripes) tinted glasses. As ive said I'm happy with the two lads brought in but you have to ask yourself what would've happened if Torres hadn't been sold. Great months business for the owners. Marginal net spend and reduced the wage bill significantly. The other targets requiring realistic offers fell short as the owners weren't prepared to invest at the right level. So why all of a sudden are NESV the best thing since sliced bread?

01 Feb 2011 15:07:46

Rather tired of the anti owner s**t frankly - there is nothing that can be changed until the end of the season, so. . lets get on with it and get unified behind what and where we are, PLEASE!

Hearing the discussions on 5 live and SSN yesterday the most obvious line up will be 442, but some were suggesting other formations. . any suggestions anyone?

Cheers,

Hey ed'(s), when will the buttons come back - good to be able to show your favour or not for a comment?

Suffolk'n Red

{editor: I am not sure when they will be back.}

01 Feb 2011 15:07:11
Can you explain to me where in your opinion, NESV have invested their money in rebuilding the team?
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Go to SSN website and watch John Aldridge's interview and he'll explain it for you, all though i suppose you know more than him don't you? Got your little ''Yanks Out'' flag ready for tommorrow? With fans like you who needs the Manc and Everton fans?

01 Feb 2011 15:06:52

Carroll was my first choice! So chuffed

01 Feb 2011 15:06:24
I am slowly coming to terms with what happened yesterday. First off, we did over spend on Carroll, but so did Chelsea on Torres. Both are huge risks as it is unlikely that either club will recoup the money they invested in the players. Liverpool had no choice but to sell Torres. He put the club in a bad spot and no-one was going to bid more for him at this or any other time. I was initially upset about Carroll, but if the club can help this guy achieve his potential, he might be huge for us. There were probably not that many options to begin with and had it not been for Torres' (dirty) money, it would have been a quiet deadline day. Those who like Kenny, get used to him because he is staying. Getting Carroll was probably his doing, and he has tied himself and LFC to a 22 year-old punk. I am not being pessimistic at all. The kid will need to be brought up properly. If I were a 22 year-old who was bought for 35 million I might have a hard time keeping things in perspective. I fear that this guy will be a challenge to keep out of bars, fights, tabloids, sex-tapes and whatever else stupidity a kid with too much time and money might get into. Again, I am confident but it will be a big task nonetheless. If we get wingers with speed and a decent left-back in the summer then the job will have been done. As for now, we have only balanced the attack a bit more. As for Fernando Torres, I respect his talent but his sulking and lack of effort this season were an insult to everything that is LFC. Watch him run, smile and applaud the Chelsea fans on Sunday and don't ever forget he stormed off the pitch after the last home game without greeting the fans when he knew it was his last. I won't boo him or burn his shirt, but he is dead to me.

01 Feb 2011 15:06:15
Two strikers with different qualities and potential. Pace power, aerial ability. Both desperate to show their worth to the club and the supporters and for the princely sum of £2million! What a bargain!
Meireles is playing well, Kelly is settling in now and providing width on the right and Johnson is doing ok at left back. Carra is back, now we need Cole to step it up for the run in.
Tottenham are half the team they were at the start of the season so they can be caught. The teams above apart from the top four have much poorer squads than ours.
Sorry 'the sulk' left in the manor he did, but lets face he hasn't put many shifts in during the last twelve months so forget him. Onwards and upwards! YNWA

01 Feb 2011 15:06:14
I for one am very happy with the window. Sulker gone and two promising lads in, along with some good youth players again. It's not our money so just see the players and not the cash.

Reina
Kelly Carra Agger Aurelio
Lucas
Merieles
Johnson Maxi
Gerrard Suarez

I would be happy with this tomorrow night.

01 Feb 2011 15:06:07
Hi Ed, now that things are quieting down a bit regarding the site, i was wondering if it's possible to re-introduce the Bel & Unbel buttons?. Ta.

{editor: I am not sure, they may be off for a little while.}

01 Feb 2011 15:03:26
OKAY, 50M FOR TORRES AND 6M FOR BABEL AGAISNT 23M FOR SUAREZ AND 35M FOR CARROLL LEAVES A 2M NET SPEND BUT, BEFORE EVERYONE GOES OFF ON ONE AGAISNT THE OWNERS, WE WILL TRULY SEE THEIR INTENTIONS IN THE SUMMER WHEN THEY REALLY HAVE TO SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY TO FINANCE MORE REBUILDING. REST ASSURED THAT WITH KENNY GUIDING THE CLUB WE ARE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, HE WILL IDENTIFY WHERE WE NEED PLAYERS AND HE WILL BRING THE YOUNG UN'S UP THROUGH THE RANKS. WE MUST NOT ACT LIKE OTHER FANS FROM OTHER CLUBS, WE KNOW OUR FOOTBALL, IT IS WHAT SETS US APART. SO NOW WE SIT BACK FOR THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS AND WATCH AS WE BUILD CONFIDENCE AND A RETURN TO PASS AND MOVE, AND THE RESULTS WLL COME. IN KENNY WE TRUST!

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Im with you on that, I am disppointed and the opinion I'm drawing from the pattern of behaviour and signals coming from the owners isn't favourable. However, I'll reserve full judgement until after the summer and I sincerely hope I'm 100% incorrect in my prevailing thoughts

01 Feb 2011 15:03:14
Whats this obsession with Llorente.

1 How do you know he wanted to come.
2 Have you ever really watched him play.
3 On what basis is he better than Carroll.

Macca

01 Feb 2011 14:59:43

FANS
i am sick of liverpool fans on here, all people do is moan, it is impossible to please some fans, net spend etc, WHO CARES? we are going the in the right direction, i think any one who has any respect left for torres is crazy, he jogged around anfield feeling sorry for himself for months, then pulls his finger out for 2 or 3 games knowing he is playing for a move, carroll will be as good as drogba in a couple of seasons, torres couldnt trap a bag of sand or pass water, ok he scored a load of goals and i loved every minute of it but andy carroll is a real hand full and will prove a great all round team player for liverpool, stop moaning we are on the up, bob paisleys kids

01 Feb 2011 14:56:03
WILL EVERBODY PLEASE CALM DOWN AND RELAX ABOUT EVERYTHING! ! ! !
TORRES WANTED TO GO, THERE WAS NO POINT IN TRYING TO PERSUADE HIM TO STAY, 5O MILLION FOR A WORLD CLASS BUT MOODY AND INJURY PRONE PLAYER IS SHREWD BUSINESS. I LIKE MOST FANS BOUGHT INTO THE "THIS IS THE ONLY ENGLISH CLUB FOR ME BS".
YOU LIVE AND LEARN, IN 2011 A ONLY CASH BUYS LOYALTY AND EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT.

OKAY, 50M FOR TORRES AND 6M FOR BABEL AGAISNT 23M FOR SUAREZ AND 35M FOR CARROLL LEAVES A 2M NET SPEND BUT, BEFORE EVERYONE GOES OFF ON ONE AGAISNT THE OWNERS, WE WILL TRULY SEE THEIR INTENTIONS IN THE SUMMER WHEN THEY REALLY HAVE TO SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY TO FINANCE MORE REBUILDING. REST ASSURED THAT WITH KENNY GUIDING THE CLUB WE ARE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, HE WILL IDENTIFY WHERE WE NEED PLAYERS AND HE WILL BRING THE YOUNG UN'S UP THROUGH THE RANKS. WE MUST NOT ACT LIKE OTHER FANS FROM OTHER CLUBS, WE KNOW OUR FOOTBALL, IT IS WHAT SETS US APART. SO NOW WE SIT BACK FOR THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS AND WATCH AS WE BUILD CONFIDENCE AND A RETURN TO PASS AND MOVE, AND THE RESULTS WLL COME. IN KENNY WE TRUST!

01 Feb 2011 14:55:00
I absoloutly p***** off with this. im not annoyed at the fact that torres left, it was going to happen one day, one thing that really has annoyed me is the replacement we have bought in! 35m for a thug version of crouch! whats the world come too?! its been half a day and already carroll has said he was forced out of newcastle. so there we are, we have a 35m unhappy lump of wood who hasent even kicked a ball for us yet! why couldnt kenny hang on to the money untill the summer and wait for better options to become available eg llorente, gerviniho! the whole point of selling torres was so that the money we got for him could be re invested into the squad but thanks to carroll, wev only got 15m left! please carroll, im begging you on my hands and knees, please be worth the 35m oh i might just get a sniper and shoot commoli! director of football stratergy? pfftt my ar**

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01 Feb 2011 14:52:31
"{editor: We can check IP adresses yes but if someone wants to moan its their choice.}"

Fair enough, i wasn't suggesting censorship, just wanted to know if our support had turned into a group of old women overnight or if it was a case of a lone nutter starting the anti-NESV bandwagon prematurely. Keep up the good work, i bet you have to read a lot more of that type of thing than ever hits the site.

{editor: You would be suprised, most people don't post abuse but it happens which is understandable with conflicting opinions.}

01 Feb 2011 14:52:01
Is there just one bloke whinging, or are there lots? All the doom and gloom replies seem to be coming from only one poster. Ed, any chance you can check ip addresses so i know whether we've all turned into a bunch of moaners or if there's just one in our midst banging on about NESV, sharpening his pitchfork and readying his "YANKS OUT" banner?

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Can you explain to me where in your opinion, NESV have invested their money in rebuilding the team?

01 Feb 2011 14:51:58

Ed considering we didn't sign any wingers , do you think kenny will still keep the 4-3-3 formation with maxi wide left and kuyt wide right? and suarez / carroll up top , or do you think he will go 4-4-2 when both carroll and suarez are fit , and still play maxi left and kuyt right? back up wingers ( jovanovic , jcole , pacheco , ince ) there not the best but least we have few players , i think pacheco wide right and t.ince wide left should get a few games , young and pacey.

{editor: I would rather see Pacheco given a run up top. I expect to play either a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1.}

01 Feb 2011 14:50:59
I wouldn't, I bet he was grinning like a cheshire cat. Don't get me wrong, I think Carroll and Suarez could be a potent partnership but £35mill for carrolls a joke. Do you honestly think they would've spent £35mill on him as a partner for Torres. Not a cat in hells chance. He came about because of the Torres sale and ticked the boxes as a partner for Suarez because his wages are far less than they would otherwise have to pay the likes of Llorente.

I bet you wouldn't say that to kenny?? ?

01 Feb 2011 14:49:59

Camolli?
whats his job?

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Identify cash strapped clubs and try and pick pocket them of their decent players. Pretty much akin to someone who goes out trying to identify ailing businesses suitable for asset stripping in order that he can cream of a finders fee.

01 Feb 2011 14:49:53
CARRAGHER vs TORRES
Sun 6th Feb 2011
Stamford Bridge.

01 Feb 2011 14:43:03
Is there just one bloke whinging, or are there lots? All the doom and gloom replies seem to be coming from only one poster. Ed, any chance you can check ip addresses so i know whether we've all turned into a bunch of moaners or if there's just one in our midst banging on about NESV, sharpening his pitchfork and readying his "YANKS OUT" banner?

{editor: We can check IP adresses yes but if someone wants to moan its their choice.}

01 Feb 2011 14:42:51

I absoloutly p***** off with this. im not annoyed at the fact that torres left, it was going to happen one day, one thing that really has annoyed me is the replacement we have bought in! 35m for a thug version of crouch! whats the world come too?! its been half a day and already carroll has said he was forced out of newcastle. so there we are, we have a 35m unhappy lump of wood who hasent even kicked a ball for us yet! why couldnt kenny hang on to the money untill the summer and wait for better options to become available eg llorente, gerviniho! the whole point of selling torres was so that the money we got for him could be re invested into the squad but thanks to carroll, wev only got 15m left! please carroll, im begging you on my hands and knees, please be worth the 35m oh i might just get a sniper and shoot commoli! director of football stratergy? pfftt my ar**

01 Feb 2011 14:42:32

From what i can gather and I'm no expert the new financial rules don't stop a share holder from investing I'n their business so Chelsea or city can still buy expensive players however where they will fall short of the rules is I'n the area of turnover, at the moment Chelsea are running at about 70m a year loss and this is not acceptable under FIFA rules and they need to break even, which is why they are trying to reduce the wage bill and trying to increase revenue ie moving grounds making their ground bigger(no real point coz they won't fill it anyway) and increasing shirt sales etc world wide, unfortunately for chelsea they don't have a world wide fan base unlike Liverpool manu Barcelona Real Madrid and poss AC Milan and therefor they will come unstuck I'n the next couple of years as the like of Terry Drogba and fat Frank retire or leave they will becable to afford to buy the best but won't be able to afford to pay them unlike the other world wide clubs mentioned above! Looks good for Liverpool unlike some

01 Feb 2011 14:42:30

Hi ed, apparently Torres can play in CL after playing for us in the europa, so surley saurez can play for us in the europa

WRONG! torres can play because u can't go from Europa league into CL but you can drop out of CL and go into europa league, that's why suarez can't play and torres can
md

?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?
I Think you need to re read your statement there mate. . .

01 Feb 2011 14:40:31
All he does is piss and moan, Torres, Torres
John Terry's got a new WAG to bone, Torres, Torres
You sat on the bench at the World Cup
Here's the last words you'll hear from The Kop
Fernando Torres, S*ck a F***ing D*ck

LFChad

01 Feb 2011 14:37:35
Wouldve loved to see fergies face yesterday when we paid 35m for carroll. he will be carpping himself at the thought of who we can buy in the summer, league title next season folks, its looking ours

ryan c belfast ynwa

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I wouldn't, I bet he was grinning like a cheshire cat. Don't get me wrong, I think Carroll and Suarez could be a potent partnership but £35mill for carrolls a joke. Do you honestly think they would've spent £35mill on him as a partner for Torres. Not a cat in hells chance. He came about because of the Torres sale and ticked the boxes as a partner for Suarez because his wages are far less than they would otherwise have to pay the likes of Llorente.

01 Feb 2011 14:35:20

01 Feb 2011 13:45:15

RE: NESV

When we sell Gerrard in the summer for 60million, will the club go out on stupid spending spree for some player at 60million. Sell to buy club now.

Just grow a pair, pick your rattle back up and think about what you say.

Yes we have sold Torres and babel but neither should have been here due to ability and attitude let you decide which is which there and we've made a £2 mil profit. But clubs need to be willing to let players go which they are not in Jan.

Let's not forget the compensation for Roy and his team and selling Torres was not in the plans?!

As NESV have said all along the spending will be done in the summer so if we are making a profit there come back and have a whinge I'll support you until then let's watch Carroll and Suarez gel ready for next season. Great signings and great work yesterday eds

01 Feb 2011 14:31:44
Absolutely over the moon with dealings this window. ok 2 out 2 in + 1 on loan, but its the intent from the owners im impressed with.

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For christ sake, what intent? If you want to draw a conclusion on intent just take Comollis carry on before the Torres deal as how they like to do business. i.e. if they can't pick pocket it doesn't happen.

01 Feb 2011 14:29:49
His hairband proved he was a blue torres torres, everything he said untrue torres torres, it was rumor but now it's rife, john terry's gonna sh*g your wife, fernando torres chelsea's ladyboy

01 Feb 2011 14:29:22

RE: NESV

When we sell Gerrard in the summer for 60million, will the club go out on stupid spending spree for some player at 60million. Sell to buy club now.

What does that even mean? - we sell players to buy other players?

I think you'll find that's pretty much how every club works. Also, I find it hugely unlikely that we'll sell Gerrard for £60M in the Summer. I think people need to stop attacking NESV over the Torres transfer - it's very simple and the Eds have been saying it all day: Torres wanted to leave.

Would you want us to just force him to honour his contract? - what do you think would have happened then?

Seriously, just move on and support the players we have in the team now. Fernando has gone and it was his own choice, I have no doubts that the owners would have rejected the bid if Torres had said that he wanted to stay.

Parma Violet

01 Feb 2011 14:29:04
All these fans moaning about what we spent how we spent it come on now have a reality check we bought 2 players 23 and 22 years old at what 27million each.

we don't have to spend on strikers now we have 2 good stirkers that will score goals in the prem. maybe 1 more in the summer but we have 2-3 that can do the job from the bench plus some young players in the reserves.

these fans that moan all the fricking time p@#s me off

what do you want the club to do torres hands in transfer request wants to go so f@#k off then.

we have to get replacement saurez wasnt a replacement for him he was to be his partner.

for me the perfect partnership will be saurez and carroll think about it carroll can smash the defence then you have saurez to take advantage sound good to me.

ok 35 mil is alot of money to much for carroll.

before we had 1 player that could score goals if he wanted to now we have 2 that have the potential to score and destoy clubs

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Your living in a dream world mate. If you think NESV have done us any favours your sadly mistaken. I'm not denying that i'm hapy with the incoming players but by no means is it a statement of intent by the owners. Commolli was trying to tap Suarez up with the Babel money plus whatever was on the horizon fot Jovanovic, that's why he was hovering around the 12mill mark. The bar was raised purely and simply when it was clear Torres was going. It was a great days business for the Americans, nil bet spend whilst at the same time reducing the wages bill, the owners are quids in. If they wanted to make a statement they should've ensured Adam's signature and brought in a winger. That didn't happen because it would've ment using their own money. Massive disappointment we didn't sign Adam. Twofold as he's got a fantastic left peg and would be ideal to hit Carroll, secondly a good addition to the changing room culture in order to get the right attitude and having the right personnell to grind out results when backs are against the wall.

01 Feb 2011 14:26:56

Cant believe you lot yes it was a downer to lose torres
but the guy wanted to go , so was the right decision .
yes carroll was overpriced but we shoud be glad the torres money went straight back into team as hicks and gillett will have been lineing there pockets.

the owners spent a bit mostly on wages and fees and yes we all hoped for a couple of extra buys im positive they will have got adam and ashley young if there clubs were willing to do a deal .

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. . .KELLY. . . CARRAGHER. .AGGER. .JOHNSON
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. . . . . .KUYT. . . . . GERRARD. . . .SUAREZ. .
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{editor: Torres no longer plays for us.}

01 Feb 2011 14:24:37

Absolutely over the moon with dealings this window. ok 2 out 2 in + 1 on loan, but its the intent from the owners im impressed with. not only did we get 2 fantastic strikers with loads of promise, we got them in style. 35m for carroll is a bit extreme but personally, based on his performances this season so far i think hes worth every penny, and will prove it over the coming months. getting rid of torres is a big statement from us. shows we're not afraid to lose our best players if it will benefit the team. a little disappointed that we never brought any wingers to the club, but i won't let that annoy me. i know the club tried and that's good enough for me. to those who think thatwe could only buy carroll and suarez with the torres money, if that was the case then why did we go to man city looking to pay up to 20m for richards? where was that money coming from? really can't wait for summer, this window was a pleasant surprise, to see the intent by the owners in bringing world class talent to the club. wouldve loved to see fergies face yesterday when we paid 35m for carroll. he will be carpping himself at the thought of who we can buy in the summer, league title next season folks, its looking ours

ryan c belfast ynwa

01 Feb 2011 14:22:41

Hey Eds, I for one (and I think I speak for the majority) think you guys do a great job.
I would like to thank you on everyones behalf.
Keep up the good work, must be recovering today after a rollercoaster day yesterday. I would buy you a beer if I could!
Dont let bast@rds grind you down. . .

{editor: Thanks a lot mate. Us editors thank you all for contributing, especially yesterday.}

01 Feb 2011 14:18:27

All these fans moaning about what we spent how we spent it come on now have a reality check we bought 2 players 23 and 22 years old at what 27million each.

we don't have to spend on strikers now we have 2 good stirkers that will score goals in the prem. maybe 1 more in the summer but we have 2-3 that can do the job from the bench plus some young players in the reserves.

these fans that moan all the fricking time p@#s me off

what do you want the club to do torres hands in transfer request wants to go so f@#k off then.

we have to get replacement saurez wasnt a replacement for him he was to be his partner.

for me the perfect partnership will be saurez and carroll think about it carroll can smash the defence then you have saurez to take advantage sound good to me.

ok 35 mil is alot of money to much for carroll.

before we had 1 player that could score goals if he wanted to now we have 2 that have the potential to score and destoy clubs

01 Feb 2011 14:14:52

With our strikers now being Andy & Lou I can't help making comparisons with Little Britain.
solidair

01 Feb 2011 14:13:55
Does anyone know what the odds are for carra to get sent off on sunday for clattering the spanish fagg*t ?

01 Feb 2011 14:09:39

Torres wants to take a leaf out of ryan babels book, left the club a true gentleman and is still making it known his love for the club and he wishes us well when it didn't even work out for him. torres has betrayed everyone bar none at the club and his quotes sinse signing for chelsea saying that he is now at a big club and can focus on winning thins in his career was truly uneccessary. hes broke many hearts and acted extremely innapropriately , and i for one will be one of the ones to not wish him well for the future and hope he (which he will) sooner or later hugely regrets wat he has done to the supporters and everyone involved with this truly great club which in terms of size chelsea will never amount to the stature of. All the best for the future to Ryan Babel, a true gent and will reach his potential elsewhere good luck lad ynwa

01 Feb 2011 14:09:13
I know Kenny wants to play Long ball football. Try to win it by one goal. They football will be so rubbish from now on. That the fans will want rafa style of play. I want to see good football. I haven't seen it in years. Now we are going to turn into a long ball team.

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You either know absolutely NOTHING about football or your a Manc or Bitter Blue!

Remember pass and move it's the Liverpool way and it's KK way!

01 Feb 2011 14:06:49
Hi guys we got no chance winning the league this year but 4th spot is still possible, my main point of posting today was I wish arsenal win the league reason
1. Mancs - will take over our record titles
2. City - I don't want them to think money can't buy trophies
3. Chelsea - I hope torres don't win s##t with them

Lfc fan (Cardiff).

01 Feb 2011 14:06:28
"Whoever posted this who cares your oviously not a real scouser coz if you was there is no way you would want man u to win anything ye joke don't come bk on here spouting such s**te ok"

Why thank you for such an eloquent reply, you are in no way a stereotype of an illiterate fan more rabid about rivalry than you are interested in the spirit of the game itself, well done, give yourself a pat on the back. Oh and by the way, i said "may", if you're having trouble working out what it means ask your carer.

Anyone else noticed that since this site started getting serious hits it's becoming harder to have a reasoned debate without sweary little children sure that if they spout enough hate about rival teams it'll make them appear like more genuine fans?

01 Feb 2011 14:01:56
All this talk of carroll being forced out of newcastle, is andy happy to be at lfc or just come for the money. your views ed? pls post in banter

{editor: He wouldnt have come to LFC if he didnt want to.}

01 Feb 2011 13:53:30
Hi ed am I right in thinking that we bid for young Richards and Adam last night and where signing suarez to play along side Torres anyway not to replace him.so why are people slagging of nesv when the tried to spend near on 50 million(including Suarez) to strengthen the squad.January is a f***ed up window and I'm sure we will spend big in the summer. Unfortunately fernando(the bitch) Torres made it difficult to close deals because we had to replace him and prices where inflated because of the 50 million every one knew we would get for him and the lateness of his transfer request. We fans have been let down by nando and noone else.
Thanx for all ur hard work eds great site

01 Feb 2011 13:49:00

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Kelly- - - Carragher- - -Agger- - -Johnson

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I think that will be our line up. Hope Carrol can score a goal. With such a big Price tag around his neck. The world world be watching him in his first game, Nothing less than a Hat-trick will please the crowds

01 Feb 2011 13:48:38

Think people are reading too much into this Andy Carroll thing. Just imagine now that you're a Liverpool player and Damien Comolli told you to hand in a transfer request so they could take the money. I'd be feeling hurt and would probably do the same. He felt he wasn't wanted and let's face it, Newcastle are his club so of course he's going to be heartbroken to be leaving and unwanted by the board, but he's here now and will give 100% for the club. He and Suarez could be the best thing that's ever happened to the club, people only have good things to say about them.
YNWA

The Sheep

01 Feb 2011 13:47:27
I for one cannot wait to see Andy Carroll pull on the LFC shirt when he is back to full fitness. They guy is an absolute monster! 6ft 4 and built like a brick sh*t house. His video on youtube is one to watch. YNWA.

01 Feb 2011 13:45:38

For those of you having a pop at the owners (doesn't show intent becouse of low net spend etc), we were rammed good and proper by Torres with his last minute request. For me I think they did a stand up job pulling it out of the fire with next to no time available. Safe to say it wasn't plan A for this window and honestly see them improving the squad further in the summer.
Just need to get behind the boys now!

01 Feb 2011 13:43:04

RE:Can we say NESV/ Fenway Group has made a "statement to the rest of the footballing world" with the purchases of Caroll and Suarez

That statement is, liverpool is run by a bunch of idiots. They know nothing about football and have managed to over pay for the boy Carrol. Harry Redknapp almost rolled over laughing at the amount lfc paid for him. The rest of the world is thinking the same. They will see liverpool coming in the following windows. Very disappointing

I know Kenny wants to play Long ball football. Try to win it by one goal. They football will be so rubbish from now on. That the fans will want rafa style of play. I want to see good football. I haven't seen it in years. Now we are going to turn into a long ball team.

01 Feb 2011 13:40:33
As i am gutted Torres is gone we got a fantastic price for him with David Villa only going for £37m last year end of season Torres would have had 18months remaining
therefore we would have got not even half that amount.

Ok we paid over the odds for Carrol but so what so did Manure with Rooney they took a chance and he went on to be a success so lets wait and see on Carrol who really cost us f all.

KiNg

01 Feb 2011 13:40:24

With these too signing and what's being said at Anfield does this mean King Kenny's going to offically become the manager. Or are we still seeking a new manager?

01 Feb 2011 13:40:24
As i am gutted Torres is gone we got a fantastic price for him with David Villa only going for £37m last year end of season Torres would have had 18months remaining
therefore we would have got not even half that amount.

Ok we paid over the odds for Carrol but so what so did Manure with Rooney they took a chance and he went on to be a success so lets wait and see on Carrol who really cost us f all.

KiNg

01 Feb 2011 13:38:18

01 Feb 2011 12:45:12

Luiz Suarez should be able to play in the Europa League, yes Ajax are in the Europa League but they have yet to play a game in it, so Suarez hasn't played for them in the competition for them so he shouldn't be cup tied

{Editor's Note: I am by no means sure this is correct.}

Ajax ended up third in the Champions League group G, won by Real Madrid, with AC Milan second, so they have not yet played in the Europa League

Northern Git {ed's note - makes no odds, they will be playing in the Europa League and that rules Suarez out.}
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I don't think it matters if you played champions lge or europa lge.The rules state that a club is allowed one player who has played in europe for another team.Therefore Suarez would be elgible to play for us eveb though he played champs lge for Ajax

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Just to clear this up:

Playing in either the Champs league or Europa league makes you ineligible to play for any other team in either competition. However, at the end of January when re-registration for the competition is put in to UEFA teams can submit one player who has already played in competition for another team.
This is why Torres is ok to play for Chelsea and why Suarez will be ok to play for Liverpool.

Tony

01 Feb 2011 13:37:53

Re: arbeloa Alonso, Mascherano and Torres

real madrid
bara
chelsea

we have asset stripped, those players where most of the very best in world football. no offense to the team, but bit medioca now

the team has no width, no intellect passing in middle of the park

01 Feb 2011 13:36:17

To the person who said

Wot is this lad from Coventry like?

Someone on the banter page yesterday said they were a coventry fan and rated him very highly Boothroyd also gave him a glowing report I have heard he can play left back and left mid so we may have signed a winger after all.

KopIdol

01 Feb 2011 13:34:33

As a Liverpool fan I am a bit gutted to lose Torres but if he wanted to go then cash him in. I think he stitched us up a bit though waiting until a couple of days until the end of the window to hand in a request. If he'd had handed it in a week eralier we could have thought about the investment better and got value for money.

Any Carroll is a gamble at 15m let alone 35m but for some reason I have a good feeling about what we have bought, I just wish we were able to bring in Charlie Adam as well I think those three would stroll into our side and make an immediate impact.

NESV have made a statement. A good statement, that tells us all they are right behind the club and the manager. Lets hope it is well recieved by the Players and the fans so we can all move forward.

Walk on.

YNWA

01 Feb 2011 13:34:18

Just a word of encouragement to everyone. The Financial Fair Play rules kick in soon which will help put LFC at the top of the tree again. No sugar daddies splashing cash for Chelski and Citeh. Teams will have to operate within their profit margin which will put Liverpool, Manure and Arsenal in the driving seat. Power will shift back to them. Also, this does not take into account 'infrastructure' so stadium build will NOT be subtracted from profit. The future is extremely bright - Torres has jumped too early and may well be in the same position again soon.
More good news - Chelsea posted a £70m loss today for the year.

)Tikmeister(

01 Feb 2011 13:33:26

I am gutted Torres left, and totally blame Gillette & Hicks for this, where had they invested to sign top quality players to relieve the workload of Gerard and Torres then we have won the league instead of coming 2nd and also Torres would not have to keep worrying about pulling his hamstring every time.

I am sure Torres loved Liverpool and would have stayed, but he was under threat from Llorente taking his place in the Spanish team, and being injured and as observed in the World Cup, him flat out on the pitch. . remember Marco Van Basten who was Art in Motion, and had to retire early through injury. .which was sickening.

It makes me sick when you see what Chelsea stand for, how the owners made their money to fund that club in the first place, where i know some proper Chelsea fans who have walked away in disgust.
What pops into your head when you hear the word Chelsea, (not football) it really is true Chelsea have no History, carp songs, no morals, just a gathering of yobs who hate everyone, and even no flags, or no scarfs, no identity, no history, just a bank account buying everyone. .
I think Torres is in for a shock at the Bridge, a big world away from a proper footballing Institution at Anfield with the greatest sight in Football singing YNWA.

Its all about (Liverpool + Football) V (Chelsea + Money), with Chelsea (like Man.U) buying the Premiership, and can't stand Liverpool who beat them against all the odds, so have to do what all dictators do, and sneak around and brainwash Torres to go shopping in the Kings Rd. .so thanks for the memories Torres, but anyone who leaves Liverpool, their career goes down, and he may never win anything again. .i wonder if Barcelona have asked already what's the Chelsea buy out clause.

So financially its a straight swap in money for Suarez+Carroll for Torres+Babel.

I can see with Torres doing all this last minutes stuff, has put Liverpool in a rush job to sign someone instead so we don't have only N'Gog, who will dishearten Suarez straight away.

Carroll is a giant old fashioned lump who in his few games has scored with either foot and and his head against the top teams, and no doubt would be getting more goals throughout the season, with a bidding war in the summer starting at 20-25m ending up 25-30m.

Dalglish has done what Fergie did with Rooney in his first few games with the blue noses, and saw the potential and go and sign Carroll who was the best of what was out there with a couple of days on the transfer market, and he's English so accommodating Platini's fair play scheme, and also being the target man to lay the ball to Suarez to introduce him quicker to the Premiership.

I am sure Suarez and Carroll goals added together will be more than what Torres will get, so we have profited from the financial exchange, . . .where if any of them get 1 more goal than Torres then we have done amazing business.

Overall forget the 35m fee for Carroll, the extra 5m to nail the deal now, has made big news all over the world, so a great marketing statement from Henry and Dalglish to attract top targets, and Henry hasn't put his hand in his pocket yet as he's broken even. .so i really hope he buys big in the Summer and make a humongous statement.

All the teams from 1st to 4th in the league have to play each other, where they will all drop points, where if we go on a mad run with Suarez and Carroll going goal crazy, anything can happen with us getting into 4th.

Michael Kop
YNWA

01 Feb 2011 13:32:11

Surely if luiz can't play in europa league torres can't play for chelsea in champions league!

{Editor's Note: Torres can play but I think the problem with Suarez is that Ajax are in the same competition and still in it. Torres can play as you are allowed one player as an exemption.}

01 Feb 2011 13:31:42

Just to shed some light on our loan move for Thomas from Coventry, he's a highly rated 17 year old who is playing in the England youth team.
I have family that are coventry fans and are involved with the club, from what they can tell me he is the best thing to come through their academy in years.
He signed a 3 year contract on his birthday and now they're gutted to be losing him, the loan move is thought to include extra money for appearances with a view to buy for 1-1.5m at the end of the season.
Bright prospect for the future.
Jack

01 Feb 2011 13:31:17

We can't keep asset stripping at this rate. carrol is not worth 35million. his name is up their with kaka now. the quality is being stripped from the club. Gerrard is our only player left

01 Feb 2011 13:30:28
Has anyone else noticed that Liverpool have just replaced Babel and Torres with Suarez and Carroll. Carroll doesn't even want to be at Liverpool and we didn't improve the areas of the squad that need improving. No lb, no cb, no wingers

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It takes time to build a squad and January is a difficult time to buy. We want the best and they just aren't available in Jan. I understand we psuhed for Young but this couldn't be done. If we're honest, ALL areas of the team need improving. Summer will be an exciting time.

)Tikmeister(

01 Feb 2011 13:27:29

Can we say NESV/ Fenway Group has made a "statement of intent" with the purchases of Caroll and Suarez? Think about it. Sold Torres & Babel for a combined fee of £56 mill and bought Caroll & Suarez for £57 mill. Is that a statement of intent?

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They could have pocketed the money and not brought anyone. Suarez deal was secure before Torres said he wanted to leave. Is that intent enough for you?

)Tikmeister(

01 Feb 2011 13:24:58
Seems to be a worrying trend in the last few windows of losing players like Alonso, Mascherano & Torres. . . .hope Reina isn't next. If he does well then there's the second best shot stopper in Premier League sitting on Man City's bench who would probably love to play for Liverpool.

So nice to see names like Carroll & Suarez as replacements though & not, Konchesky, Jovanovic or Cole!

-IamTheCosmos

01 Feb 2011 13:24:52
Would like to say a big thankyou to the eds for all the hard work over the last couple of days also can't believe peoples negative comments about not bringing in anymore players do we really want the likes of nzogbia adam young and warnock at our club the money will be spent in the summer on better players.if man city brought carroll for 35 mill nothing would of been said he is a great talent, english and defo one for the future

01 Feb 2011 13:24:22
Ed, whilst very disappointed Torres bailed out, on the other hand we got a huge price for a player who was no longer motivated to perform at his best and has suffered numerous injuries. Putting aside the fees paid for Carroll, which was dictated by Torres's timing. The bottom line is that if Carroll and Suarez perform as Kenny expects we have signed two very good forward players at who have the potential to be true world beaters at no net outlay. NESV were prepared to net spend this transfer window (without selling Torres) at least £30m (and possibly more if the rumours about Micah Richards are true). This money is still available to spend in the summer as will a further £20m from the sale of Aquilani, Konchesky, Insua and one or two other marginalised players. This means Kenny if he wants should have 50-60m to spend in the summer. What I particularly like about our signings is that we have not made the same mistake as in the past by spending 5-10m on mediocre players who may or may not make it. We have this time signed two very talented players and with this come inflated transfer fees. Yes we do need a quality left back and winger, but we will buy quality as and when we can. Its time to go back to the quality over quantity formula. Depth will come from the very talented pool of youngsters which Kenny will continue nurture. Having regularly watched Rodolfo's boys it is clear we have several very talented youngsters who like Kelly will sooner or later make it into the first team. Robinson Coady, Suso, Sterling to name a few and we continue to hoover up raw but very talented youngsters such as the deadline day acquisition from Coventry (as Kenny has said thank you Rafa for overhauling our youth academy!). Big transfer fees do not guarantee success, but it certainly increases the chances especially when the money is thankfully being spent by canny Kenny who when he has spent big on signings throughout his managerial appointments overwhelmingly these signings have proved successes. Despite Torres we are on the up. No debt, a top quality legend of a manager and bursting with youthful talent. By this time next year Torres will realise (though he won't admit it) that he could have stayed at Liverpool and achieve his dreams. The future is looking very very bright good. Reality Red

01 Feb 2011 13:22:24

Hi Ed,

This is not a rumour. But could you tell me when the Fair Plays Ruling from FIFA comes into effect 2011/ 12 season or 2012/ 2013 season (i.e you have to spend within your means)?

With those Chavs operating a £70 million loss (as stated by the Independent today) on top of spending money on Torres and Luiz for combined fee of £70 odd million, they have never been able to spend what they bring in.

Torres might just get his wish in a year or two years time (if they carry on this way), as they won't be eligible for the Champions League even if they qualify! !

If you look back at this transfer window just gone, NESV have already started applying this principle in preparation for this, or maybe they just missed out on other potential targets i.e Adam & Young and this was not initially intended.

What are your thoughts ed?

By the way Torres has told the media (Five Live): "He would have no qualms scoring against Liverpool on Sunday. It would be like destiny". FACT!.

Torres has turned into a miserable, bitter and twisted footballer of late, I'm sure he's had his brains removed.

Fields of Anfield Road

YNWA!

{Editor's Note: The financial fair play rules come in to effect 2014/15 using the financial information from the three previous seasons. As such, 2011/12 is the first season where compliance should be made. As such, this was the final window for that one last fling.}

01 Feb 2011 13:22:14

"01 Feb 2011 12:23:13

Riddle me this ed? Can we say NESV/ Fenway Group has made a "statement of intent" with the purchases of Caroll and Suarez? Think about it. Sold Torres & Babel for a combined fee of £56 mill and bought Caroll & Suarez for £57 mill. Is that a statement of intent?"

Can't believe there are people out there, supposed supporters who are immediately looking into negatives after we've smartly and neatly did some decent business. There aren't many Chairmen or Owners who would immediately put the money we made back into the pot. Not just the profit from torres, the whole lot. . Randolph and Mortimer wouldn't have. . We're moving forward, our purchases are a statement of intent. Get behind the club! YNWA. . Great site. .

01 Feb 2011 13:17:46
When you search andy carroll on wiki, look at a few of the related articles:

-"Buffon tips Carroll to have a bright future"
- " Ian Holloway: Carroll is the best striker in the premier leage"
- "Capello wants to pair Carroll with Rooney for England"
- and something about his finish being "sheareresqe"

I know some are exaggerations and comparing him to shearer is stupid, but maybe there is more to him than we first thought?

01 Feb 2011 13:17:15

Has anyone else noticed that Liverpool have just replaced Babel and Torres with Suarez and Carroll. Carroll doesn't even want to be at Liverpool and we didn't improve the areas of the squad that need improving. No lb, no cb, no wingers

01 Feb 2011 13:15:39

Carroll & Suarez are KK's new Shearer & Sutton. Then with signings in the summer of Adam & Coentrao, these will be his Sherwood and Le Saux. This is starting to look a bit familiar isn't it.

The Smashing Machine

01 Feb 2011 13:12:32
All these years we've loved and adored Torres because of his ability and not shown the same level of effection for Babel, now Torres treats us like dirt and Babel comes out and makes that nice statement to us fans and the club, it proves that a players ability does not reflect the stature of the man!

Babel YNWA, That Spanish bloke can jugger off!

01 Feb 2011 13:10:54
Spurs bid 24-26m for Carroll, that was the starting point for our bid. It was always going to be high buying their best player on a 5 year deal on the last day of the window.

i also doubt very much that this wasnt pushed through by Kenny himself.

01 Feb 2011 13:09:11

Before FT coming here to LFC, he is not a world class. Same with Carrol and Suarez. LFC will make them world class. surely in coming years we will win more trophies and FT will be sad that he is not the part of team as he will win nothing expect this year and maybe another year.
st YNWA

01 Feb 2011 13:05:06

Before every one gets on Carroll's back for the statement he made about not wanting to leave Newcastle etc. .

Do you not think that it is a good bit of PR on his side so he dose not get slated by his old fans when he returns to st James Park.

Unlike Torres with his comments.

Monkey The Red

01 Feb 2011 13:05:03

With our obvious lack of pace throughout the team i reckon for the rest of the season we could end up playing a bit more direct than usual and with the likes of agger, aurelio and gerrard who can ping a ball around i don't think this would be a bad thing and come the end of the season bring in to pacy quality wingers, a left back and atleast 1 maybe 2 centre backs then watch us go next season.
Paul

01 Feb 2011 13:04:46

A lot of rumours going around that the eds are finally gonna get some sleep. Congrats guys on handling the past month, it's been emotional to say the least.a��Quick question, do you think we'll look for wide players such as honda and turan in the summer or are we gonna stick to our guns and get the most out of the style that we're gonna adopt now?

01 Feb 2011 13:01:56
Hey ed, have you had a chance to speak to the players since the whole Torres transfer request rubbish happend? What is their take on all of it?

DownUnderRed.

{Editor's Note: The wrong Ed for this, but he has not said anything to me about it.}

01 Feb 2011 13:00:19

Sheesh Lawrie Sanchez is stupid, was on sky sports and said Meireles is now a LW stupid chap.

Matt Wollacott

01 Feb 2011 12:56:33

Ed, there are rumours going round that Torres won't play on Sunday as the Chelsea staff think the Liverpool players will go after Torres, do you think he will play against us?

{editor: I would hope so, it would be fantastic to see Gerrard vs Torres.}

01 Feb 2011 12:56:19

Again, please stick this in the rumours.

As far as the owners making a 'statment of intent' they absolutely did that! People seem to forget that they spent approx £57 million! They didn't spend 7mill! Just because they got 50mill for Torres that doesn't mean they were 'a bit tight?!'

That 50million went into the business and out again on the same day - that's a huge layout. They could have held it for the summer (or said that was what was happening) but no, they put up and backed KK to spend it as he saw fit. As for the Carroll fee being high - it's relative: the Torres deal will cost Chelsea 100mill over 5 years and the Carrol deal cost us around 55! In it's own right it is over inflated but in that context it's not, and he's English and his wages aren't sky high and he wears a fu@@>n t-shirt in Jan!

Torres is a sulker and a mercenary and just remember; trophies won with Torress = 0! Compare that with the likes of Baros, Heskey, Owen, Fowler, Crouch and even Cisse! They all won things with Liverpool but are ''half'' the player!

01 Feb 2011 12:55:35

Glad to see whinging face gone, did a great job and gave us some great times, but fir the last 18 months have hated seeing his moaning face put a dampener on our team so, so long and lets watch our great team play with a smile on their faces. onwards and upwards

YNWA

Lewy Scotland

01 Feb 2011 12:54:01
Does anybody agree that we desperately need a big centre back? People always say that we should have replaced Alonso but i think Hyypia was as big a loss, Skrtel is an accident waiting to happen, i hope to god we replace him in the summer

01 Feb 2011 12:53:24

Shellsuits, Lonsdale, Donnay, Le Coq Sportif, and now Andy Carroll. . . . . . . . .Mike Ashley has been selling overpriced S**t to scousers for years! ! !

01 Feb 2011 12:49:03
As Liverpool have signed 2 strikers in Carroll and Saurez does that mean we are playing 4-4-2 from now on? Also playing with Carroll he will need plenty of crosses because he is so strong in the air but Liverpool have no wingers to supply him with. Liverpools best 2 players at delivering the ball are Gerrard and Aurlio are they going to play wide right and left to supply the quality balls that Carrol will need? Then leaving Merieles and Lucus to play centre midfield? Just an idea?? Ed where have the agreed and believe buttons gone?

Basil

{editor: They had to be removed because they were causing the servers to crash. I will ask if they are coming back.}

01 Feb 2011 12:45:08

Good job ED's. . especially in the last couple of days

And for those who keep slagging the ED's off why don't you do a Torress and F OFF!

East London Kopite

01 Feb 2011 12:41:03

Before too many people start saying that the owners didn't spend much of thier own money just rememeber, They where in a position to have laid out for Suarez and only got in the money for Babel. This to me shows commitment to spend the money if needed.

It just happens that with Torres leaving they where able to balance the books.

I can see us being "big dogs" in the summer transfer window with the summer budget plus at least part of the Jan money saved by Torres leaving to spend.

I would have liked us to get Adam yesterday but feel that we need wingers more and don't know why Downing wasnt bid for.

BIGJON

01 Feb 2011 12:36:14

Ed you summed it up in one of your earlier replies 'commoli is a good scout', the problem is we've had him doing our negotiating whish he doesn't seem to be very good at i think the sooner we bring in a new chief exec the better, any news on who it might be? also pleased with our 2 new strikers my only gripe is no knew wingers, how close were we to signing any and who were they ?ps ignore the d*ckheads who slag u all off if u had all the answers u wouldn't be workin on here.
Paul

{editor: No news on the CEO.}

01 Feb 2011 12:34:57
Thanks Eds for all your hard work especially over the past week. It has been an exciting period of activity. Good luck to the new signings. Disappointed Nando left when he did without giving Suarez a chance alongside him. Lets push on now for a top 6 finish.

Would like to see sign in Summer:

Mata
Banega
Ball playing centre back
Left back

01 Feb 2011 12:34:52

Just to clarify the situation, Fernando Torres CAN play for Chavski in the champs league and Suarez CAN play for us in the Europa. Theres a rule apparently that every team can have one player in the squad that has played for a previous club in Europe that are eligible to play for there new team.

On a different note, slightly dissapointed with yesterday, not helped by torres request i know, but we needed wingers and that should have been sorted out.

Anyway When fit, Suarez & Carroll will be an awesome partnership even if Carroll was forced to come to us! !

01 Feb 2011 12:34:35

A club can request to sign a player on emergency basis, e.g. if several goalkeepers are injured at the same time. In England, clubs from the Football League Championship to the Football Conference can loan in players from 8 September to 25 November and also from 8 February until 24 March. An existing loan deal can be made permanent at any time outside the transfer window.

I guess this means that PL clubs can't loan in outside the window ed?? {ed's note - that's my belief too, I really can't find anything in the FA's handbook pertaining to loaning in players outside of the transfer window.}

Didnt Citeh get in an emergency loan keeper the other season because Birmingham wouldn't let Hart go back? ?

{editor: Yes.}

01 Feb 2011 12:34:22

ED's, I wouldn't take to much notice of all the negative nonsense spouted by the likes of the below, slagging off yourselves or the owners.

They're are probably bitter and twisted Bluenoses or mischief making Salford United (SC*M FC to you and me) fans = = "Your supose to be editors, your just a f***ing joke promising minimum of 3 signings. we had one injured person and one foreigner. And you blame it on Andy Carroll. Get you facts right, your like SSN.= =

Anyway, what's the status of Carroll's injury, when would he be available to play? Getting loads of mixed messages from 1 week to a month.

{editor: I would say 1 to 2 weeks.}

01 Feb 2011 12:31:42

Everybody moaning about us not getting any wingers in january stop panicking, i'm pretty sure a couple of deals or pre-contract agreements are already in place as there are loads of excellent players who have just gone into their final 6 months,
summer moves will be 2 out and out wingers, a decent leftback, a replacement for gerrard and carragher and another top quality striker.
next year
reina
kelley agger . . . . . . . . . .

johnson mirelles . . . . . . . . .

saurez carroll

4/ 5 players short and our team is good to go and will be challenging for major honours next season, i even think the wingers are already sorted on bosmans, probably young and french, give DC a chance

01 Feb 2011 12:29:30

Love the 2 signings but can't help but think we havn't addressed our lack of pace and creativity out wide and our need of a specialist left back. Carrol will definitely give us more presence up front as our former num 9 could be bullied and wound up easily but worried about our creativity.

01 Feb 2011 12:29:19
Ed, how will Torres react to making his debut against Liverpool? will gerrard and co shake his hand when the teams line up? will he get some rough reatment from liverpool? and will the limelight being on torres allow suarez to play without pressure and thrash chelsea?

Kam

{editor: The pressure would only be on Fernando if he were to play.}

01 Feb 2011 12:29:05

I honestly can't believe we paid over 35 mil for carroll i think it was 20 mil too much i hope im wrong but he has had a half a year in the prem and done ok david villa was only 35 mil im a bit sad about this if the owners were serious about spending money thet shud have offered a bit more money for the players we really need like a winger and a lb they didn't really spend anything cos of our sales and im a bit weary if they r willing to spend the money that we desperatley need to strengthen the squad please print this ed and can i have ur opinion many thanx mark

{editor: It is a very steap figure but we had to pay that to get him. Lets just hope him and Saurez can form a partnership to remember.}

01 Feb 2011 12:24:00
Just saw this on Chelski's website, a copy and paste from what Torres said about Liverpool

"It is like the destiny. It is not perfect for me but we will see what happens and I only have good words about Liverpool. They made me a top player and gave me the chance to play at the top level. I will never say anything bad about Liverpool, I have been very happy there, but now the history is different and I am playing for Chelsea. If I have the chance to play I will do my best for Chelsea and hopefully I can score.
"
He is "some what" said something nice about us, but the cheeky f@cker said he hopes he can score. I have to say I wish he showed some class and thanks us fans for giving him the love and support we did when he played for us.

01 Feb 2011 12:21:51
We all that he was a red, Torres Torres
But now he's gone to us he's dead, Torres Torres
He scored some goals and made us cheer
Who gives a s**t, Suarez is here!
Fernando Torres, you'll always walk alone

We found out that your heart's not a red, Torres Torres
So we bought in Suarez instead, Torres Torres
He'll score from, he'll score from there
He'll score from f***in anywhere
Luis Suarez liverpools number� 7 (hmmm doesn't quite work does it!?)

Redfish

01 Feb 2011 12:20:20
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01 Feb 2011 11:53:08
"quick question would we rather manure win the league and torrers to have a shocker at chelsea or torres to play awesome and chelsea win the league? ?"

It's a sad state of affairs but i honestly think i may prefer the former. I love the game and profoundly dislike the modern phenomenon of financial doping. By rights Utd would have had number 19 some season ago before the butcher of Grozny's pal flooded the market with dirty roubles. Say what you like about Utd, but at least their success was legitimate. I may hate them, but i can respect Utd as a genuine football team.
Whoever posted this who cares your oviously not a real scouser coz if you was there is no way you would want man u to win anything ye joke don't come bk on here spouting such s**te ok

01 Feb 2011 12:18:41
Yes TORRES is gone and we have more options to build on we were too dependant on torres to get goals! kuyt, gerrard sureaz and carroll i hope these players gel and we challange for the title next year, happy babel is gone and torres knew he was going since rafa left he could have been more loyal to the people that were paying his wages (can we get anyone on loan? ?)

01 Feb 2011 12:17:30

Off the topic - don't get me wrong I can't wait to Suarez and Carroll play in our red - but I am equally excited to see Mereilles develop and play - damn I think he is going to HUGE for us. .looks like a new signing with Kenny here!

PS see Reina has been very quiet on the Torres saga?

{editor: Reina is a true pro and is committed to our club.}

01 Feb 2011 12:16:26

Dont slag off the eds.
The service they proivide is free to the user. If you don't like it, don't use it.
You morons who slag them off, i'd like to see you do it for nothing.
Well done eds. Keep it up.
Torres to get kicked all over Stamford Bridge on Sunday.(hopefully)
RED FIRST & LAST.

EDS PLS post in both Rumours and Banter.

01 Feb 2011 12:16:21

Please oh please will all you supposed liverpool fans on here stop slating the owners saying "they havent spent any money" blah blah blah! they have spent money!
look at the transfers of both Suarez and Carroll and that is proof enough! if we were still owned by the other clowns we would have sold traitorres and they would have given that cash straight to whoever they owed at the time and we would all be on here crying about losing a player and not getting anyone in.
get behind the king and the team because i think this is just the start of a great new era at the club and we are well on the way to getting back where we belong!

01 Feb 2011 12:11:42

"The Madness of King Roy XXI"

Financially it makes great sense: £58 m (inc Babel cash) in and just about the same going out.
On a football level it makes even more sense to my jaded eyes: Torres - tawdry and lacking motivation, often injured and seemingly more interested in immediate success than another 12 months down the line. That's fine with me.
Carroll: promising, powerful, young and well respected by the so-called pundits. A bit of Crouch and with a powerful shot. He will do well with us.
Suarez: he can finish and with Andy to play off . . .?
Think this might be a very uncomfortbale partnership for some Premier League defenders in the next 14 games.

A few words for the future:

A very BIG thank you to John Henry and Tom Werner who did show the colour of their money in the way we wanted. They effectively made us a big spender in the way we used to be. Respect to them.

Caroll & Suarez: they are not Fernando Torres. Some of my fellow posters shot themselves in the foot by banging on and on about a Rafa comeback. Torres is gone and we need to forget him and show our vocal and physical support for these new players. Show them they mean something to us and we know they can do a great job.

Fourth place: I was never sure we would finish in the top 12 this year, but some results have gone our way. I don't think we can make fourth, but if Chelsea can slump, then so can Man City and Spurs. We could . . . might . . .maybe . . . grab fourth, but I won't hold my breath.

What I do know is that we can start the 'second half' of the season with a potent strike force (once Carroll is fit) and that gives us hope.

Honda: what happened and WHY?
Adams: did he really want to go to Spurs?

Steve Parker

01 Feb 2011 12:09:16
"Liverpool fans like signing carroll and suarez? torres was twice the player of them both. unlucky, you went from bad to worse and torres will be laughing it up in the chanmpions league with you pushing for europa a"

Ah you silly Chav f*cker. Fernando Torres and Chelsea FC will over the course of the next 6-12 months find out the ugly truth about each other. As you're generally so fu*king stupid I'll point it out to you. He's a money grabbing bell end who'll stop trying and will jump ship the second anybody is nasty to him. You're a plastic club, with no heart, no soul and £750m owed to a Russian who has lost 40% of his fortune over the past couple of years and is about to bankroll the 2018 World Cup.

Enjoy the short term while it lasts. you'll be crying into your watery £5 a pint lager soon enough

"They score our goals they play upfront, they're better than that Spanish c**t, they're Carroll and Suarez Liverpools new strikeforce"

01 Feb 2011 12:07:20
1987. . Ian Rush leaves for a club record fee. . KK signs arguably the greatest attacking triumvirate in the clubs history. .Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge. .the rest is history

Fast Forward 24 years. .

2011. . Fernando Torres leaves for a club record fee. .KK signs two great strikers to form another great attacking triumvirate. .Gerrard, Suarez, Carroll. .we will make history

Fernando WHO?

01 Feb 2011 12:01:26

Get Taiwo and Marveaux on Bosman's. Taiwo for left back and Marveaux is better than Charlie Adam. Couple of wingers and we're sorted. Shaqiri and Hazard for me.

01 Feb 2011 11:53:08
"quick question would we rather manure win the league and torrers to have a shocker at chelsea or torres to play awesome and chelsea win the league? ?"

It's a sad state of affairs but i honestly think i may prefer the former. I love the game and profoundly dislike the modern phenomenon of financial doping. By rights Utd would have had number 19 some season ago before the butcher of Grozny's pal flooded the market with dirty roubles. Say what you like about Utd, but at least their success was legitimate. I may hate them, but i can respect Utd as a genuine football team.

01 Feb 2011 11:49:00

First of all, great site Ed. Kept on getting regular updates about the transfers. Also, was the ayala loan deal called off? If so, why?

{Editor's Note: I am afraid I don't know.}

01 Feb 2011 11:47:02

Luiz Suarez should be able to play in the Europa League, yes Ajax are in the Europa League but they have yet to play a game in it, so Suarez hasn't played for them in the competition for them so he shouldn't be cup tied

{Editor's Note: I am by no means sure this is correct.}

01 Feb 2011 11:46:08

I jus had another look at suarez on youtube, i kno not the most reliable source but jesus this guy can score from anywhere, im unbeleivebly excited bout seein him play, i kno it mite take time but id love it if he announced himself bigtime an bagged on wednesday

ed what u reckon mate ?

{Editor's Note: He is a good player.}

01 Feb 2011 11:40:26

Eds, re torres, sponsors, image rights etc, just a thought, as sponsored by addidas, did he need to move to a club branding addidas to keep up his sponsorship with them?

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That makes no sense at all. Torres is sponsored by NIKE!

01 Feb 2011 11:39:11

Great job over the last few day's ed's really enjoyable stuff, i think we've achieved super owners in nesv and i'm happy with how the club conducts it's business these day's it's proper order, also i think we've made two super signing's people are saying about the cost of andy carrol? 1.remember he single handed destroyed us this year ask carra about him lol, 2. i reckon the scuy or someone else would have signed him in the summer, i'm disgusted with torres hardly a mention of lfc in his interview also his bit at the end in which he say's "i hope i play on sunday and score", thought we'd have got a couple of wingers but with everything going on didn't help ed do you reckon if the torres thing never happened we'd have been more successful in other areas? also di you think we'll be in for some big names in the summer? pls post in rumours,

01 Feb 2011 11:38:56

Hi, does anyone know how the players reacted to torres over the last few days?

01 Feb 2011 11:37:06
Torres to be used as a crutch at Chelsea - to help to stop Drogba falling over. Seriously though, Torres knew that we were getting Suarez and trying to get others in so he knew that the new regime were going to improve the squad but he did, nt just leave. He left it so late in the window to tell us. I hope that he falls flat on his face at Chelsea and he has lost the respect from a lot of football fans, not just Liverpool fans. At the end of the day the team will improve under Kenny. MONEY TALKS.

01 Feb 2011 11:36:47

ED do you know what happened with our move for Honda, and do you think we will still go for young in the summer?

{Editor's Note: The club did not follow up on Honda. Young is a possibility for the summer}

01 Feb 2011 11:35:33

HI ed couple of questions for you!IM a little worried that weve lost another pacy player and have now less pace in our team when we clearly need it badly THOUGHTS? and also i had a bit of an arguement a while back with one of the eds about carroll when he said he was lazy sub standard and didn't now where to run I thought he was a serious talent maybe worth 15 mill not 35 but just wondered what he thought of the deal and is he happy he has come to liverpool? think it was the grumpy editor LOL. good job the last few days!
DCG

{Editor's Note: It wasn't with me.}

01 Feb 2011 11:35:12

Ed's well done with the site over the last few days. I've not always agreed with you's but you've done a great job. Fair play.
Why are people having a go at the owners? They've jumped in to the prem transfer market with both feet if you ask me.
A while back everyone was worrying about us signing the likes of C Cole and Dempsy etc. . We've signed two quality players for the present and future. Who between them will offer far more than a injury prone sulking player who was looking at a move for the past 2 seasons.
If this is what has happened in Jan, then I'm looking forward to the summer. Blackpool messed up the Adam deal, not the owners. They've also backed Kenny fully otherwise they wouldn't of paid £35m for Carrol (in ratio is the same as what Utd paid for the promising but not tested Rooney). So we have shown that we are going to compete.
Ed, what is the possibility of us still signing Warnock on lone? Is it still possible?

EPortRed

{Editor's Note: Loans are allowed in exceptional circumstances only.}

01 Feb 2011 11:34:02

Thanks Ed(s), you guys have done a great job in the last few days, RESPECT to all of you guys! The jokers that moan about the ED's being wrong, this is a rumours site, if you can't accept this, then don't log on you apses!

Torres gone! Life does not end, we shall see at Chav City whether he will get the service and get the support he had at our club. He will never be remembered as a LEGEND. Torres just shafted us for money! I for 1 have packed my torres t-shirts away, the man has made me physically sick. I just hope Carra gives him a Scouse welcome when we play against them on Sunday!

Another quick point, all those fickle fans moaning about lack of spending. Realise this - the owners have spent money to bring Suarez into our club. A classy forward who is mean scoring machine. Also the ambition of our owners is clear to be seen, wait until summer you guys will be singing their praises. Our owners refused to pay over inflated prices in this transfer window, which I and most intelligent fans will agree is smart business acumen.

Now here are my rumours, and people I think King should look at in summer. Turan this boy can play and is skillful a smart crosser with the ball and look at Taiwo as a left back. We need a player in the mould of Alonso in the centre of the park and please sell Poulsen and get rid of Aurelio no way good enough to wear our shirt.

Overall click (BEL) if your happy with our transfers or (UNBEL) if you think we rushed into buying these players.

YNWA

Asian Liverbird

01 Feb 2011 11:33:38

After reading some boards this morning I would like to chuck my tuppence worth in please ed.
(Excuse any spelling mistakes)
Firstly I think we have done exceptionally well this window, we sold a striker who did not want to be here, sulked a lot and was not a team player only played for himself, secondly we have bought 2 strikers with the sale of torres, so 2 for 1 in anyone's book is a good deal. One world class striker, and one under KK's tutuion will no doubt become world class. I have no doubt KK & DC tried to get other players (Charlie Adam) and so on but, if people don't wanna play ball what can you do. For all we know we could have agreed pre-contract's with some players for the summer window. I am a happy chappy today and look forward to the summer window.
PS : Great site ED. I know you said we were after more player's and unfortunatly this has not happened, and I see you have had some stick for it this morning but, you can only go on what you have heard and pass this on, if it comes off great, but people should remember in the transfer window things change in the blink of an eye. Keep up the good work guy's.

Slider

01 Feb 2011 11:32:37

About blackpool s charlie adam, blackpool held up on signing the transfer forms deliberately, as they wanted to keep there star player. and harry said the deal was about 6 mill. i thougth lfc offerd more what do you think to this ed.

01 Feb 2011 11:32:27
No mention of the south korean kid who was reported as being signed yesterday. . . .Any news about this ED?

{Editor's Note: I explained yesterday, he signed for Wolfsburg on Sunday.}

01 Feb 2011 11:30:29
Please, please, please, don't waste your energy on Sunday booing that money-grabbing turncoat who has showed his true colours (obviously not red) by moving to 'a top club'. Don't give him the satisfaction. Instead save your energy and your loudest voices for our new lad Suarez who says he's joined 'the most important club in the world'. He's our new number 7 and deserves a proper Liverpool welcome. As KK said, the most important players are the ones that are here and want to be here.

01 Feb 2011 11:30:12

All in all, not a bad result yesterday. It's a shame we couldn't get Adam in, but perhaps in the summer we'll be back for him. Our front line looks exciting, and it's good to have a player who physically worries defences. If, come the summer, NESV find another £50-60M to spend, we'll be in great shape.
Ed, is it likely any other player (ie Pepe) will do a Torres in the summer, and if so would that worry you, given that NESV have proved they will buy to replace?

{Editor's Note: He may do, but it doesn't worry me.}

01 Feb 2011 11:25:04
I think most of us would have taken a straight swap of Torres for Carroll and Suarez would we not? We only ever got half a season out of el Judas anyway. If he hadn't been so injury prone maybe we would be closer or even at that "next level" everyone always talks about.

01 Feb 2011 11:24:39
Wouldn't it be funny if Judas' goals against Chelsea contributed to them not qualifying for the CL. Redemption :)

01 Feb 2011 11:23:51

Ed do you think el sulk will play on sunday or will there be an agreement that he gets the sniffles

{Editor's Note: Perhaps on the bench.}

01 Feb 2011 11:23:48

I think some people need to have abit of reality check. torres wanted to leave liverpool in the summer. broughton/ ayres etc persuded him to wait till we was sold. if he was sold in the summer the 50 million would have been used to by H&G to pay debts and enable them to still be in this club.

Torres was always leaving in this window, ask macca he knew weeks ago and did post on her too.

yes he felt liverpool was going nowhere and he chose to leave. going to chelsea only time will tell. if he helps them win the league this year and stops the scup winning more league titles than use we will be all happy. .

lets forget him now, we have just welcomed two brilliant strikers to this club, lets get behind the boys and get us up the league and qualify for europe. i still believe city can be caught. .

jay

01 Feb 2011 11:21:24

Although I'm very happy with the 2 major signings yesterday can I just point out that Liverpools new owners haven't actually spent alot of their own money!
We sold Torres and Babel for around 56m and bought Carroll and Suarez for 57-58m! Why are they being credited with all this praise!
Surely if we had signed a LB and Winger then praise could be given but that's all they have done is replaced two players!

Also I heard a rumour Turan will def join in the summer!

Paulmondo YNWA

The owners cleared the debt from the club when they bought it didn't they? For example the £35 m spent on Carroll this year, was spent on the intrest repayment on our debt last year? I know who and what I would prefer.

01 Feb 2011 11:20:31
Does anyone know if suarez speaks any english?

01 Feb 2011 11:19:28

Linda pizutti says on her twitter that the transfer window has closed and now the building of lfc starts, what a woman i love her, john henry you jammy git, lol

01 Feb 2011 11:16:49

Editors you did a great job.
Please STOP posting anything that you find offensive to yourselves. We do not want to hear from uneducated morans.

I have enjoyed this site for the last few weeks but if all I see on it is people slagging you and NESV then unfortunately I will not be coming back again.

Remember guys. . . this site is about Liverpool rumours. . .NOT LIVERPOOL WHINGERS!

Get a life and move on

once again. . . WELL DONE EDS!

Scout

01 Feb 2011 11:16:42

Ps i forgot , get off the ed's backs no-one knew who was coming or going but some will claim to say told you so.

01 Feb 2011 11:14:19

You guys to an amazing job, keep up the good work. I was glued to the screen over the last few days.

One suggestion would be if you post crediable sources when posting.

01 Feb 2011 11:13:29

Suarez brought in to partner torres club spend £22m, torres wanted to go knowing this so we get carroll in his place.a good piece of work by kk and liverpool.torres heart not in playing for liverpool, suarez and carroll will be awesome upfront.good days ahead.

01 Feb 2011 11:11:21
Torres to score an own goal on sat!
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Chelsea are playing Liverpool on SUNDAY

01 Feb 2011 11:11:00
01 Feb 2011 10:15:57
Here's a scenario for you fellow reds.

Would you prefer Chelsea (and Torres) to win nothing this season and finish 5th - this will mean the Stum beating them twice though and clinching title number 19.
or
Chelsea beat the Scam twice to clinch CL spot plus they win the CL Final.
like to hear your preferances too ed's
IKKWT

To be honest I hope Chelsea lose all their remaining games and eventually get relegated.
Then we just have to catch up next season. With the new mentality, it can be done.

Northern Git

01 Feb 2011 11:10:49
Anyone read the statement Adam put out as soon as the window shut? Fair play to him, he made his feelings known, handed in a transfer request early, continued playing for the team and giving 100% even when it looked like the chairman would block a move and afterwards comes out and reassures the fans that he'll continue to put in a shift and give his all. I may not agree with the idea of buying another CM but surely this is the calibre of individual we need at the club. Top man.

01 Feb 2011 11:10:22

Hey ed can you please answer my question is suarez able to play in the europa league?
thanks
frank irish red

{Editor's Note: No, Suarez is not available for the Europa league.}

01 Feb 2011 11:09:51
01 Feb 2011 10:41:02
Liverpool fans like signing carroll and suarez? torres was twice the player of them both. unlucky, you went from bad to worse and torres will be laughing it up in the chanmpions league with you pushing for europa a

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Look everybody! A 14 yo chav skiving from school has got on his dad's computer. .

01 Feb 2011 11:08:13
After Torres comments the man is dead to me and I'm thoroughly glad he's gone. Anyone who doesn't think Liverpool are a top team doesn't deserve to wear the shirt. Enjoy your so called 'top team'.

I must admit i was initially frustrated with the whole 'NESV-net spend' scenario, but after having time to calm down at least they reinvested all the money from torres' transfer and i think its clear that had other clubs been willing to deal they would have spent more. I guess we will all find out in the summer but i say we can do nothing about jan now so lets support our team and move on!

Speaking of which, will carroll be fit for Stoke? If not will he bit fit for Chelsea?

We have a potentially lethal strike force and in Suarez I believe we have a new tevez. But our biggest problem all season has been creating chances for our striker(s). The fact we didn't get any wide, creative players means we still have this problem. I just wonder if now Pacheco will finally be given a chance. �The same goes for Cole who has been written off by many but in my opinion has played nowhere near enough games for us to judge him.

Anyway with all this in mind, with all our players available I think this would be our strongest line up:

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Kelly- - - Carragher- - -Agger- - -Aurellio

- - - - - - - - - -Lucas- - - - - - - - -

- - - - - -Meireles- - - Gerrard- - - - -

- Suarez- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Cole-

- - - - - - - - - Carroll- - - - - - - - -

Or when we really wanna go for it:

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Kelly- - - Carragher- - -Agger- - -Aurellio

- - - - - - - - - Gerrard- - - - - - - - -

- - - - - - - - - Meireles- - - - - - - -

- Pacheco- - - -Suarez- - - - - -Cole-

- - - - - - - - - Carroll- - - - - - - - -

I'm still not convinced with Johnson at LB and Kelly is havin too good a season to be dropped. We'd have the likes of Wilson, Shelvey, Jovanavic and Kuyt on the bench. It's not the greatest team but i think it would see us through to the summer when we can hopefully really make a statement in the transfer market. Namely a new CB, LB, DM & WINGERS�

Banega, Turan, Honda, Hazard, Coentrao, Taiwo, Gervinho. These are the type of players I want to see us go for. 3 or 4 of these and we really would be in business!

Redfish

01 Feb 2011 11:07:46

Hi Ed
I apologise if this has been asked before but did we put a clause in the Torres contract saying that he couldn't play against us on Sunday?

thanks

RedDan

{Editor's Note: No idea, but I doubt it.}

01 Feb 2011 11:07:01

"01 Feb 2011 08:54:28

As torres is able to play in champions league for chelsea is suarez able to eligible to play for liverpool in the europa league!"

Afraid not, the ruling is convoluted but this is another reason Dalglish was desperate for another striker and i'd wager finding one not cup-tied made matters even worse.

01 Feb 2011 11:05:02
Nananana nananana FERNANDO TORRES YOU MONEY GRABBIN TW£T na na nanana

01 Feb 2011 11:03:05
His armband said he was a red: Torres, Torres.
Then Roman came and turned his head: Torres, Torres
He showed us that he doesn't care,
He'll not get much support down there.
Fernando Torres: Judas number 9.

AG

01 Feb 2011 11:01:47
People, NESV didn't spent 2.8 or whatever people are saying, club and news websites are saying that the 50 million will be paid over 4 or 5 years. IMO, we may have gotten twenty the minute the paperwork was signed. NESV still used THEIR money, from THEIR pocket, we haven't gotten the 50 from torres just yet. John has spent massively, and i'd like to thank him, we'd be in big trouble if you guys didn't come and help us out

01 Feb 2011 10:58:05
I know lots are being said about how much was spent. How much was brought in by sales.
As one editor said if it had been H&G it would have vanished and no buys!
I for one would have loved a winger and CA from Blackpool. But we didn't get them YET?
Kenny knows what he wants!
We have to trust him!
We did it the old LFC way quietly!
The stupid comments by RH have gone as has the negativity!
The laundry washing in public have gone now Rafa is no longer here!
We have two new combative strikers who will fight for our cause!
But going back to the original point, we all hated the debt we lived under and that was sucking the very life blood out of this great club
So come on lads if it turns out we have gotten rid of some dead wood and brough the new lads and it has cost us 2 to 3 Million and no large scale debts as a result. Isnt that good business for us the Club by careful owners!
Not pond sucking scum like before.
Kiwi
P.S (Eds) why one poster would abuse you for getting a prediction wrong is beyond me. For god sake lads we need to stick together, We are LFC.

01 Feb 2011 10:55:31
For those slagging NESV, they are business men and not going to spalsh the cash like Abramovich - no comments on him or where his money comes from as that may be contrued as slander. The BUSINESS we have done this window is probably a net spend of £2M with a reductuion on the wage bill getting rid of Konchesky, Babel etc. This is good business and the summer should bring us more cheer. Remember that they have said they are not averse to increasing the wage bill. I expect more sgnings of the same ilk in summer, a winger or two, Adam etc.

Torres was obviously angling for a move for ages, did not play well for us until recently and got his wish. As they say "BE careful what you wish for". Wonder how much he will get for his house in Woolton? My only real worry is that Reina may decide to leave!

01 Feb 2011 10:51:43
01 Feb 2011 10:03:02
Luis Suarez £22.7m & Andy Carroll £35m. . . . . . .nobody expect dis 4rm Lfc.2 great signing, u're highly welcome.LS7 & AC9. . . . . . .YNWA! LFC BASH.

Panic buying on an epic scale. . Desperate REDS!

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Sorry, I don't see a net outlay of c£2-3m as panic buying how shortsighted is that, are you mad!

We have taken a risk, but what were our options, sick with a miserable sulking Torres and a lacklustre Babel. We now have a strikeforce that by the end of the season will be challenging for the top scorers post the transfer window. ., be realistic, injuries aside this is true!

Se NESV hasn't yet dug deep to reinforce, is that not positive for us and the long term gain of the side? Width is a problem I appreciate, but there are low cost options that we can follow in the summer, and more importantly attract to a global club - sorry Nando you're an ass on that one!

The objective will be young creative market opening prospects that will be shortlisted down to those that offer the best sporting performance and market opportunity based on the length of contract and outlay. Honda is an obvious one, there are others to. .

Don't forget that we now have (albeit very pricey) an English centre forward, spuds have invested heavily, but what is their exposure to the level of investment and risk of return. How many people did we hear that they had bid for in the last 48 hours, err most of them. . !

That's panic buying, our hand was forced the outcome is as good as we could expect under the unreasonable circumstances that Tossers (spelling) thew in our faces, so we cashed in on the asset without breaking the bank. .

Pity Oysten is such a ring piece - that would have been a very solid investment at £7 rising to £10.

Still we are where we are, that's it well done LFC all. . let the good times rise

Suffolk'n Red

01 Feb 2011 10:51:04
Move johnson to right mid, cole left still lot too prove, and thanks 4 getting me involved 4 a month, u r s**te, block me wot eva, u put me in difficult pos, i love lpool but u guys s**te, me 4 new rumor page {ed's note - could you repeat that in English? Only no one was blocked at all, nor could they be because of our server problems we had to remove all extraneous programming until the transfer window closed.}

01 Feb 2011 10:50:54
Why are people still bitching about Torres, He has shown his true colours, we need to move on, and get behind the team.
Lets hope the Owners can get some more quality in the summer and we will start to challenge again, and bring back the glory days, YNWA

01 Feb 2011 10:48:28
This morning while i was trying to explain to my distraught 7 year old that torres had gone the more i was explaing to him the more convinced i became i mean we have lost a fantastic player no one can disagree with that but we also lost the biggest moaner when things are not going his way can anybody remember the last time he didn't have moan and a sulk when someone put him on his a**e? we became to reliant on him to win matches so we might have lost a fantastic player but in my eyes we gained our team back.

quick question would we rather manure win the league and torrers to have a shocker at chelsea or torres to play awesome and chelsea win the league? ?

01 Feb 2011 10:48:11
Torres to score an own goal on sat!

01 Feb 2011 10:41:02
Liverpool fans like signing carroll and suarez? torres was twice the player of them both. unlucky, you went from bad to worse and torres will be laughing it up in the chanmpions league with you pushing for europa a
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Let me guess torres was s**t when he played for us, but now he's with chelski he's the best striker in the world! Dickhead.

01 Feb 2011 10:39:17

I don't grudge Torres leaving. .we will need some time for rebuilding Liverpool and we have to perfect our style of play. Hope Suarez and Andy turns out to be worth the money we paid for them. I trust Kenny and the new owners. They have proved their intent in this window.
What i learnt in this window: i am still a Torres fan but more importantly I AM A LIVERPOOL FAN always and will always support my payers and coach.

01 Feb 2011 10:37:48
BBC Sport: Chelsea have broken the British transfer record by paying a reported £50m to seal the capture of striker Fernando Torres from Liverpool.
The 26-year-old Spain international signed a five-and-a-half-year contract with the Blues. "This is the target for every footballer - to try an earn as much as humanely possible. I mean who would not want to earn £175k per week?, " he said. "Chelsea are one of the oldest teams in Europe and are really in need of somebody young and attractive up front. I mean have you seen Drogba - his hair looks like Darth Vaders helmet."
Chelsea also brought in Benfica defender David Luiz for a reported fee of £21.3m but no one was particularly bothered. Torres stated, 'I mean yeah, Luis has a decent barnet but not in the same league as mine.'
Torres, a World Cup winner in 2010 and European champion in 2008 with Spain, spent three-and-a-half years at Liverpool after joining from Atletico Madrid for a fee of £20m, scoring 81 goals in 142 matches.
"I'm so happy and proud to be here, " added Torres, who is available to play in the Champions League having only featured in this season's Europa League and could face Liverpool in the league on Sunday but may be a little scared.
"It's been two, three, four very hard days for me - a man can only lie to the fans for so long before they start getting suspicious and the pressure of thinking how to spend that extra £55k each week was getting to me, but I'm prepared and ready for the challenge. I know there are many old players here and so I will work not have to run too hard to win a place in the team. I am looking forward very much to helping my new team-mates this season and for many years to come or at least until I get bored and need some more money or better weather. It's my dream to win the Champions League and as Liverpool are not in it I'm sure I have to be in a different team, so Chelsea will do.'
"I am a big fan of all of the Chelsea strikers, " said Torres of his competition for a striking berth. "When I was very young I remember Anelka was playing for Arsenal. Obviously Drogba is the best striker in the world by far. So although not heroes of mine, they are people I have heard of."
Manager Kenny Dalglish said earlier on Monday: "Movement is part and parcel of football but the most important people at Liverpool Football Club are the ones who want to be here."
Liverpool had been angered by the timing of Torres' transfer request last week and reportedly believe the London club "tapped up" the player by encouraging him to express a desire to leave. Torres, who signed a six-year contract when he joined the Reds, had been linked with Chelsea before.
The west Londoners were reported to be interested in luring the Spaniard from Anfield in the summer of 2008 and made a bid in May 2010, but after helping Spain win the World Cup in June, Torres pledged his future to Liverpool.
He said at the time: "My commitment and loyalty to the club and to the fans is the same as it was on my first day when I signed." When pressed further on this, Torres stated, "Yeah I did say that but I did not say which club."

01 Feb 2011 10:36:33
In reply to adidas comment torres sponsored by nike

01 Feb 2011 10:36:05

HE PLAYS UP FRONT FOR LFC, SUAREZ, SUAREZ
HE WANTS TO PLAY FOR KING KENNY, SUAREZ, SUAREZ
WE BOUGHT THE LAD FROM AMSTERDAM HES PART OF KENNYS MASTERPLAN LUIS SUAREZ LIVERPOOLS NO.7 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NAAAA NA NAAAAAHIS TRANSFER PROVED HED BE A RED CARROL, CARROL
HELL SCORE MORE GOALS THAN TORRES DID CARROL, CARROL
WE HOPE HE DOESNT GO TO JAIL BUT IF HE DOES WE WILL PAY HIS BAIL, ANDY CARROL LIVERPOOLS NEW NUMBER 9 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NAAAA

GERRARD N CARROL IN ONE HOUSE ( CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP )
THE LAD IS GOIN TO BE PURE SCOUSE ( CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP )
THE KOP WILL GO SO FU*KIN MAD ( CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP )
BECAUSE ANDY CARROL THE BIG LAD ( CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP )
WILL SCORE GOAL AFTER GOAL ( CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP)
AGAINST MIKE ASHLEYS NEWCASTLEEEEEEEE

HE ALWAYS NEW HE WAS A RED CARROL CARROL HES GOT A DIRTY GREASY HEAD CARROL CARROL
HE PUNCHES BIRDS HE BURNS HIS HOUSE BUT WE DONT CARE THATS f***IN SCOUSE ANDY CARROL LIVERPOOLS NUMBER 9 ha ha

01 Feb 2011 10:35:58
I am happy with the signings
ok we did not spend out alot of money because we used what we had from the deals of judas and babble
but at least they spent it and on 2 strikers.

but hope in the summer they spend abit more
we need some wingers for them to score goals esp carrol. would of been good if got adam because his delivery from corners is excellent

so to fellow lfc fans
shut up moaning at least the owners spent the money if the other 2 cowboys was here we have no signings

and get behind the team

01 Feb 2011 10:32:33
Ed s is it safe to say our wage bill has decreased cause with reports of carroll signing for 75 k p/ w and suarez 70 k p/ w compared bable s konkchesky s and trateze s wages have we not spent much and saved money {ed's note - we have reduced the wage bill, good move as it was far too high.}

01 Feb 2011 10:30:24

01 Feb 2011 03:52:03

ANDY CARROLL WOULD KNOCK A COW OUT IN 1 PUNCH! Weve finally got a hard b****rd to knock down the defence walls and set Suarez free. Must say im absolutely gutterpointed about Torres i really thought he would become a true Lfc great. Oh well YNWA. Please post on rumors

Lol I heard his ex was a bit ova cow with him. Let's hope she is out of his life now,

01 Feb 2011 10:26:35
I no people are unsure and I no u tube is not a good reflection on a player but Suarez looks better than Torres and Carroll is ideal bring on sunday
Great job ed's and macca

01 Feb 2011 10:26:12

Hi guys
Carol is out for a month at least. He was due to start running again next week by the Newcastle medical staff and if there is a reaction to his injury he could be out for longer .
It was mentioned yesterday on lfctv by the commentator who looks like Martin samual from the daily mail

01 Feb 2011 10:25:12
I hope i'm not the only one who's over the moon just because for once we're not asking where a transfer fee to us disappeared to or how much of it we'll be allowed to spend.

Oh and to all those keen to knock NESV and Comolli because of the way things panned out regarding wingers and Adam, bear in mind the old saying - "The best laid plans of mice and men often go tits up thanks to one cowardly twunt chasing dirty roubles". They said business would be done late in the day, and if they were not chasing their own tails to find a number nine their task would have been infinitely easier.

01 Feb 2011 10:23:39
Do not shoot me down for this, but have we not just sold Torres for 50 million, Babel for 6 million, sent Konchesky and a few others on loan. We have bought Carroll 35 million, Suarez 23 million. So we brought in 56 million and spent 58 million. Net spend 2 million. Now the wages of those incoming are certainly less than those outgoing. Torres was 110.000 k a week and Babel 60k per week. My bet is the new boys will be 80k week each. Therefore in wages we save 10k a week or 500k ish a year. We loaned out Konchesky, so we also save his 60k wages or maybe half if we are paying half. Therefore out net spend this window is basically nothing.

I am not having a dig here, but I wait with baited breath for the summer window as I have seen no ambition from FSG as yet. Like I said I will reserve judgement in the summer. Given we are lkely to pick up money for the aquaman and various others that will leave, I am looking to see how much of their money they will bang into the club.

Oh, i also forgot the extra money from the Mascherano sale that was not spent which was around 6 million, so since FSG took over, we are 5 million in the positive. IMHO that is not good enough and that is what Torres means by lack of ambition. If Torres had not left, I am not convinced we would have signed anyone, but that is just my opinion and I wait to be proved wrong in the summer. {ed's note - you might sound like you had a clue what you were talking about if you even knew who the owners were! FSG do not own the club.}
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Bollocks mascherono was sold before NESV so I wouldn't have thought that sale is anything to do with them. Yes they only spent 2million but would our previous owners have done that?
To many players in wouldn't have done us any favours as they need time to gel. Babel was a waste of 60 tho a week so Atleast there tidying up the wage bill to enable us to get better players. Torres is reported to be on £200 tho a week so we have suarez and Carroll on less than that between them I know which I'd prefer.
Hopefully in the summer there's more money to spend seeing as they've not had to spend in this window. The future looks bright

LAVERS

01 Feb 2011 10:22:37

In reply to -

01 Feb 2011 08:31:11

Eds, re torres, sponsors, image rights etc, just a thought, as sponsored by addidas, did he need to move to a club branding addidas to keep up his sponsorship with them?

HES SPONSORED BY NIKE

01 Feb 2011 10:22:30

Hey all. .

crackin site that helped make yesterday amazing! not my most productive day in work :p

just a couple of queries:

1) are we still paying the retainer to athletico for first refusal on aguero?
if yes what are are chances now torres is gone?
{Editor's Note: No - there never was a retainer.}
2) what the hell happened with torres? was stunned, whatever about leaving but to chelsea? was there a bust up or was he always selfish/ petulant? really lost on this tbh?
3) how does carrolls house arrest kinda situation effect him now hes on merseyside?
4) do people believe we will make top 4 with our current crop?

you'll never walk alone. . (except for torres)

dublin red or dead

01 Feb 2011 10:20:49

Is Carroll REALLY overpriced? 35 mil seems a lot but lets not forget Englands last young talent, Wayne Rooney. He went for 30 mil when he was a teenager and he's worth double that now after years of helping "them" win trophies. And lets face it, once we got 50mil for Torres we were never in a position to find a bargain. At least these owners had the nuts to pay big money for a replacement, the last lot would have sold Torres and left us short.

Overall, i think that was a good days work and i'm happy with Lou and Andy up front.

Well done KK and the Board.

01 Feb 2011 10:19:33
My opinion torres babel = 30 goals a season ?
suarez carroll = 35 goals plus maybe another 8 produced by carroll holding the ball up etc so we have spent in theory 1.6mill and we should get more goals?

01 Feb 2011 10:19:26
I wouldn't boo torres at the weekend he wants to win the champs league well how many european cups have chelsea 0 lfc 5, he should be ashamed of himself saying that chelsea are a bigger club what did we the fans do on him only support him through thick and thin.
well i can see it now chelsea finish 5 win nothing and we win the europa league.
welcome andy and luis so what if we didn't get adam raul can pass a ball as good as anyone we have good young wingers coming through what we have now is players who will fight for our club, so we lost torres but gain to good strikers which we really didn't pay anything for i can understand why we paid way over the odds for carroll, deadline day torres threw a spanners in the plans of KK spuds tried to sigh him we had to act fast or risk the chance we would have got no one.
YNWA kinghenry

01 Feb 2011 10:19:24

Eds, re torres, sponsors, image rights etc, just a thought, as sponsored by addidas, did he need to move to a club branding addidas to keep up his sponsorship with them?

Chris {ed's note - no he moved to a club that offered him huge money to go there.}

Torres is sponsored by Nike NOT Adidas

01 Feb 2011 10:16:09
Dissapponted over Adams but if someone takes their head out the sand we have a player twice as good who might sway back to us now. . Aquaman.
{Editor's Note: He won't be returning.}

01 Feb 2011 10:15:57
Here's a scenario for you fellow reds.

Would you prefer Chelsea (and Torres) to win nothing this season and finish 5th - this will mean the Stum beating them twice though and clinching title number 19.

or

Chelsea beat the Scum twice to clinch CL spot plus they win the CL Final.

like to hear your preferances too ed's

IKKWT

01 Feb 2011 10:13:41
We may have paid over the odds for Carroll and then not bought anyone else in the overinflated market yesterday but we must now be one of the strongest teams in terms of potential.

Liverpool make a good level of profit and the new rules will surely lower player prices in future windows.

01 Feb 2011 10:13:41
People on he have a dig at Nesv for not spending any money
Torres and babel 56m
Suarez and Carroll 57.5m

Buy didn't we have a 8m bid for and Adam and a 20m deal for m richards turn Down

Bit pissed of that we didn't get a winger in with this cash :(
Could have gone for Sanchez now that would have been a jan transfer window to remember

Wee don

01 Feb 2011 10:11:57
Andy Carroll mobbed by fans and welcomed by KK photographed with KK in front of lfc crest

Torres welcomed by reporters and random homeless guy welcomed by some suit as ancelotti was in Sunderland perish the thought he may have travelled up after the squad to welcome his new star player

Speaks volumes to me Torres will be crying into his golden locks before long when he realises what he's done

01 Feb 2011 10:10:33

Pepe will now go in the summer I reckon. Last of the Spaniards really now cuz we have no more Garcia, Riera, Xabi, Nando etc. I know we have youth players like Pacheco but I do reckon it helps to have fellow countymen in your team. Discuss? ?

01 Feb 2011 10:09:26
Given the choice, if you were a professional footballer, would you prefer medals or legendary status at a club where your name would live on long after you were gone?
I would prefer the love and passion of the mighty LFC fans.

MUSHROOM

01 Feb 2011 10:07:30

Any truth in the rumour that Spurs matched our bid for Carroll?

01 Feb 2011 10:06:04
I can see the headlines now for next year when we pull in the trophies. .

"Kop in Wonderland"

Author - Luis Carroll

Can't wait

IKKWT

01 Feb 2011 10:06:00

If carroll passed his medical how come he can't start against stoke tomorrow?

{Editor's Note: He is injured.}

01 Feb 2011 10:05:55

I think they should give joe cole a chance to play on the right wing. what u think ed? KK have not use him at all .

01 Feb 2011 10:03:02
Luis Suarez £22.7m & Andy Carroll £35m. . . . . . .nobody expect dis 4rm Lfc.2 great signing, u're highly welcome.LS7 & AC9. . . . . . .YNWA! LFC BASH.

Panic buying on an epic scale. . Desperate REDS!

01 Feb 2011 10:02:30

Liverpool fans like signing carroll and suarez? torres was twice the player of them both. unlucky, you went from bad to worse and torres will be laughing it up in the chanmpions league with you pushing for europa a

01 Feb 2011 10:01:13
01 Feb 2011 08:25:47
We've got to get rid of Comolli. He has cost us vital time and money with his negotiating tactics and it is only going to get worse in the Summer. He should have had a list of targets ready to go first week in January. As it stands we got one of our targets and a very expensive panic buy on the last day of the window and he's been here almost as long as the owners, let us hope and pray John and Tom see through him and cut him loose as soon as we get a CEO in.
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Stop whinging.

01 Feb 2011 10:00:25

Ed, did LFC bid £20m for Micah Richards?

{Editor's Note: I doubt it.}

01 Feb 2011 09:54:26

I didn't think Andy Carroll could sign with us as he had been ordered to live with Kevin Nolan by the Newcastle courts?

{editor: He may have to live with Gerrard. That would be very interesting.}

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This doesn't apply anymore although I believe he has to stay away from Newcastles big market for a while, not a problem now eh?

MUSHROOM

01 Feb 2011 09:52:16

Some fans are still not happy with our owners having only spent £2m net outlay. We tried to get Micah Richards but City refused our offer of £20m last night. That showed the owners intent. Save the money for the summer and reinforce then. As for Torres and his statement, very dissapointed in the lad. Wants to go to a big club, yeah ok, oh and by the way £180,000 a week with another £2m per year image rights thrown in. Does that make it a big club?. Torres has let himself down and will not be treated the same way as other former players are. He will join the likes of Keegan, Owen and McManaman amongst others. He could have been a legend, revered by Liverpool fans, spoken about in the same breath as Kenny or Rushie. He has joined the pensioners in an aging team but all of that money will make it worthwhile. BIG CLUB- YOU, RE HAVING A LAUGH SON. Lets support the new lads now and forget past traitors. Come the summer and expect another 3 players in and let the good times roll again.
Lifelong red

01 Feb 2011 09:52:12

I think Kenny is going to carry on for some time. We need a left back. Has Taiwo signed an extension yet? If not, get him on a bosman. Marveaux will be another Bosman. Couple of wingers needed now. Shaqiri, Griezmann, N'Zogbia, hazard, elia, sanchez. Loads of options out there. Anyway, would appreciate any info about Taiwo.

01 Feb 2011 09:51:22
All this talk of Andy Carrol being overpriced is not the fault of the owners. I mean Harry Redknapp bid £25mil for Carrol and then £33 mill for Llorente and I think £20 mil for Mario Gomez. So put the blame at Harry Redknapps door, he knew we would have a windfall and would look for a quality replacement and tried to price us out the market. When he bid £25 mill for Carrol there was no way Newcastle were going to let him go for less than £35 mil because of Harry's 25 mill offer.
Also to all the fans complaining about NESV are you stupid? Do you have any brains?
They just spent £58 mill albiet it was the money from Torres deal but they still used all the money to improve the squad. They also made a bid for Micah Richards for 20 mill which was rejected and they made a bid for Ashley Young for 20 mill (I think) and Charlie Adam bid for 10 mill so if all there offers were accepted they would have spent 108 mill would you have complained then? If a Club doesn't want/ need to sell and the player does not want to leave then deals aren't going to happen but obviously for the retards out there that's NESV's fault. Behind the scenes the owners have put in so much effort to improve the squad and I am sure they will do the same in the summer. However, I think you 'Real Liverpool Fans' probably want H & G back and would rather the owners sell our top player and not spend the money.

01 Feb 2011 09:51:15

Not to keep going on about nando but had anyone pointed out that torres got injured for spain.
. we then spend several years trying to get him fit again, finally fit and playing well now he's gone of to the south. . can't help but think we've got the back end of that deal. . at least we've got a good old british forward now, he might be able to stay up in the box. .

01 Feb 2011 09:50:22
Hi i work in clintons the card shop and have just served gerrard and carragher they were both buying huge get well soon cards, they also paid extra for them to be deliverd to stamford bridge first thing monday morning, they were both addressed to a mr torres?? ? what could this mean lol

01 Feb 2011 09:50:10

Was feeling bad about losing torres since friday but after yesterday full of joy again well done owners and kingkenny for not sitting back and leaving us in despair shame about adam would of top it all off nicely note to kk kuyt and maxi are not the answer on wings try playing cole on left and stevie g or johnson on right we need good crosses and those 3 are our best

01 Feb 2011 09:49:51
The last few days shows how much our great club has moved forward.We have a massive blow of Torres saying he wants to go, and unfortunately for Saurez overshadowing his move slightly but we have got two great strikers.Ok Carroll is very expensive but we weren't the only ones in for him, Tottenham were showing a lot of interest so he is sought after.
If this had happened in the summer we would not have been given the money it would have gone who knows where.Yes we didn't get the wingers or Adam but the speed of the movement for Carroll shows we mean business.I thought Torres was the best striker I have seen for a long time and was gutted he wanted to leave but I must admit if we had sold him in the summer I would have supported it, because for a long time he hasn't looked like his heart was in it.
Watching Carroll and Suarez play I wouldn't like to try and defend against them, and we havn't scored many goals with Torres so lets see how many we score without him.
Can't wait to take my seat on Wednesday night and see Suarez, then I believe Carroll may be fit for Sunday so God help that "big club" and all those prima donnas.

01 Feb 2011 09:48:16

Judas come and have a go if you think your hard enough. Enjoy your fa cup. We will enjoy the europa league. There were ten fans waiting for torres at chelsea waiting for you. And we had hundreds waiting for carrol.

01 Feb 2011 09:47:38
Well what a hectic deadline day that was! I feel as though I have to write these comments to get them off my chest. The Spaniard Traitor who left this fantastic football club needs to learn some respect. He has handled the situation apallingly. Firstly he played for 18mths like a spoilt child and put in little or no effort to the clubs cause. Secondly he hands in a transfer request 3 days before the transfer window shuts. (why not Jan 1st). This I believe was designed to cause maximum disruption and drop us in the s**t. Thirdly when the guy eventually signs for one of our rivals he has subtle digs about joining a big club and that he is now at the level he should be. I agree he is now at a level he should be. In the gutter and playing for an ageing team who will now have to accomodate 2 sulkers and drogba who all play as a lone central striker (ideally). I for one hope chelsea realise that he will struggle to live up to his own hype and probably has half the passion of Drogba. When things start to go wrong he will disappear up his own a**e.
Finally I wish to congratulate LFC on signing 2 young and hungry strikers in Carroll and Suarez. We already know they will put in more effort than a certain Spaniard. YNWA

01 Feb 2011 09:42:58

Hi ed,
Hope u guys got a chance to digest the transfer window. Wow it was crazy! !.
How would u guys rate our signing? Do u think we got enuf?
I just can't wait to see sua n carr on the field. Torres who? ha .

01 Feb 2011 09:41:38
Ed's forgot to tell you yesterday that it was a great site and being on the site all day was intresting to say the least.

I was one of the fans who was distraught yesterday, still a little pissed off but what the hell.

As a club we will move on and Torres will win nothing again this year, Aas a fan we will get behind them, my one concern is, as it was yesterday, was the lack of any other signings, forget the money, i think it was available, the problem is we signed two potential world class strikers, Suarez will set the preimiership light and Carroll will be leading Englands line this year so i think we will cope, BUT, the lack of any other signings still mean we have the same 9 players behind him that let players and goals past them like water flowing through my fingers, a late Micah Richards bid again seemed in desperation.

31 days of transfer window and we end up running around like headless chickens.

Hoping we can get 4/ 5 spot but now concentrating on the summer signings.

Walk On.

01 Feb 2011 09:41:31

Although I'm very happy with the 2 major signings yesterday can I just point out that Liverpools new owners haven't actually spent alot of their own money!
We sold Torres and Babel for around 56m and bought Carroll and Suarez for 57-58m! Why are they being credited with all this praise!
Surely if we had signed a LB and Winger then praise could be given but that's all they have done is replaced two players!

Also I heard a rumour Turan will def join in the summer!acutally LFC werent gonna sell torres, in the first place and had already bought suarez, so then they bought carroll, then got 60 mill back, which is around 10 mill profit, but they were prepared to spend money which is good!

01 Feb 2011 09:40:49

{editor: Your right they didn't spend much but, if this were Hicks and Gillett it would be spent on deby repayments.}
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Is Deby an extremely expensive local hooker?

Ed, Do you know how many visits you had to this site yesterday, it was hammered all day?

{Editor's Note: I don't know what Stats we have but will find out.}

01 Feb 2011 09:40:09
So, it's time to move on, hope that the benefit of Torres to Chelsea is no more than the benefit that Liverpool have had during the last 18 months. I wish him no ill, but I hope he has less than moderate success. I hope Chelsea have even less success and the status quo of a London team never having won the Champion's League/ European Cup remains. Suarez and Carroll hopefully will quickly become the most fearsome strike partnership of the premier league, and always score more than the potentially leaky defence lets in.

Northern Git

01 Feb 2011 09:39:49
Ed, so was our nett spend £2.8m after Torres and Babel out?

{Editor's Note: No - quite a lot more. The fee for Carroll was "over" £35M and you have to account for agent fees etc..}

01 Feb 2011 09:35:02
I think bad day at the office springs to mind here, how can anyone whos supposed to know about football not see and address the issue of the fact we need width and a decent central defender or 2 at least, sure, we sold torres and babel, and replaced them with im my opinion 2 overpriced signings, only time will tell if this was correct, but if as a manger and a chief scout you can't see were screaming out for the above mentioned, and you can't negotiate these signings in 31 days, then its P45 time i think, ive been in business for 40 odd years and i could have sourced and sorted these deals out satisfactrily, and don't give me all this Jans a difficult transfer window, Money talks and bulls**t walks, if the money was available like we supporters were told it was, it should have been sorted way before the last hours, and you can't tell me nobody knew a week beforehand torres wasnt on his way, i love the lub, always have and will, but this was a disgrace in my book, Nesv really need some one savvy in getting deals done and dusted early doors,

01 Feb 2011 09:33:40

Give the new owners some credit, they may not have dipped into their pockets this january considering the money gererated from sales. But at least we didn't do what the scums did when they sold Ronaldo.

Look I know most of us are hurting for the way torres left and his interview yesterday with CFC.TV was very disrespectful. But at least he didn't go to united and maybe CFC can push for the title now.

For me the best signing of this window has got to be the return of KK, the guy has bought back the old way of doing things. No player is bigger than the club, if they want to leave then get to stepping. .

We could have kept torres left him on the bench and sold him for 70m in the summer. .

LFC for life, Long live King Kenny.

rp86

01 Feb 2011 09:32:52

01 Feb 2011 07:18:19

Can we still make a loan deal, ie a left back.

{editor: I think so, yes.}

what do you think the chances are that Warnock or someone else will be brought in to free GJ up to play on the wing infront of Kelly?

{Editor's Note: There are no loans allowed now.}

01 Feb 2011 09:31:30

What do you think ed. . . Will suarez start against stoke or against chelsea?

p.s it was nice having ur company for the past 1 month, i visited this site every day during jan, cheers to all eds

{Editor's Note: He will likely start.}

01 Feb 2011 09:28:25

Am I only one who is glad to be rid of torres? We can finally play 2 QUALITY strikers, youngfer than him. 2 strikers who won't sulk, and will run and get the ball. It will make everyone else in the team step up. In my opinion, good riddance Torres.

01 Feb 2011 09:27:19

Morning Ed. .

Please explain how Blackpool could turn down both of our bids for Adam last night, with one of them being in the region of 10m, then Harry Redknapp comes on talksport at about 11:30 last night saying he missed out on Adam by 2 minutes after having a bid accepted! . .Sam Matterface asked Harry how much the bid was and I swear to God Harry said he thinks Levi bid around 6.5 - 7m! ! ! !

Why did blackpool accept less money from spurs?
They are taking liberties with us and his career and he should should just show his dissapointment on the pitch now! !

YNWA

SI

01 Feb 2011 09:26:16
NESV bought carrol for 35m n many fan said it was an idiotic desicion coz its way too much.but i think if NESV decided not to buy carrol last nite, the same fan will say NESV r same like H&G, dont want to buy any striker to replace torres.they will say NESV want to keep torres money in their pocket.its never being easy to satisfied all the people.fact!

Mr.E

01 Feb 2011 09:25:51
Must admit I am disappointed that we finished up about as we started. O.K. we have 2 strikers instead of one but still no one to give us proper width and get the crosses in.
Also Suarez is EL cup tied and Carroll is out for 2/ 3 weeks injured so the numerical improvement is not as good as it could have been.
Mainly disappointed that we have not signed a wide player despite looking for one for months. Makes me wonder how good Comoli really is.
I know the disgusting behaviour of Torres gave us a lot to handle and I am sure the 2 new signings will be good for the club but we still failed to strengthen the team to any significant extent.

01 Feb 2011 09:24:23

Ed(s) simple question - do you think this has been a succesful transfer window for us and why?

{Editor's Note: Are you happy with where we are now compared to two weeks ago.}

01 Feb 2011 09:21:27

With the treachery of Torres, i have a bad feeling pepe reina will leave in the summer and i really hope its not to man u, possible?

01 Feb 2011 09:17:39

Liverpool are interested in bringing back paul konchseky and also signing G Neville, T Bramble and also C Cole. well not really but if we start mentioning these players as potentially targets Harry Redknapp will be putting bids in for these players. Ed do we get any commission with regards any signings Tottenham make as we do the scouting/ leg work and last minute Harry then tries to move in a nick him.

couple of words to start a song, "he was a magpie now a liverbird Carroll Carroll"

01 Feb 2011 09:16:17
What an amazing deadline day. I'm worn out. . . but prob not as worn out as the ed's, well done last night, especially with the server crash.

On to our transfers, i've got to say i'm really excited by our new strike force and really think they will be an exciting patnership. A little dissappointed we didn't get any wingers but think the whole Torres situation probably put us back about half a day in terms of what plans the club had with it's targets.

I wish people would get off NESV's back about what transfers we made. They've spent close to 60 mil this window, and NO, that's not the Torres fee as we won't have even received that yet. That money was spent regardless of FT staying or going. The problem we had was the timing of FT's transfer request, had that not happened then we wouldn't have had to spend all of yesterday trying to tie down another striker and we could have concentrated on the targets we were planning on going for. So you came blame FT for us not getting more players, NOT NESV.

I think the summer will be when our main transfer activity occurs, and i'm sure KK will be given the money for FT to spend on more targets, i reckon he'll have a 100million war chest to play with.

Sorry to see FT go but i'll get over it, and so will everyone else. It's just the fact that he's gone to a rival that sickens me, but hey, that's life. I really think he'll regret it though. I don't like to think badly of people but I hope he spends as much time on the injury table for them as he did for us.

Just remember FT. . . the grass aint always greener!

IKKWT

01 Feb 2011 09:06:19
Ok mate if Commolli running round Europe trying to pick pocket on the cheap is doing everything they can then so be it. Wake up and smell the cow muck, no investment whatsoever and there won't be unless we sell. With the exception of Gerrardand Reina theres no real family jewel so lets just hope something comes through the academy eh.

{Editor Note: People are getting more stupid on here.}

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To all NESV haters like the fella above. They had agreed 22million plus fee for suarez before torres put his transfer request in, therefore taking away babel money they were stumping up something like 18 million. Commitment me thinks? Not the sort of 'spade in the ground in 60 days' s**te from H+G, just doing, not talking.

Muzmacol ynwa

01 Feb 2011 09:05:10
There us no doubt in my mind that Caroll is a young, great player in the making and we did well to sign him. It's his off field antics that worry me. But who better than Kenny, Carra and Stevie to try and steer him right? If they can get his off field attitude sorted, we may have just signed Englands no 1 striker for the next 10 years? Let's all stay positive. Bye Nando you'll be missed and not forgotten, come back when you've sucked enough money from Chelsea and just wanna play football cus you luv it again.

01 Feb 2011 08:53:01
It is about time the fans got behind the team, and show the players and the owners what it means to be part of Liverpool Football Club, this is what the reputation of the club has always been based on.
At the ground against Stoke we should be singing and urging the team throughout the game, sadly the last few games I have been to this has been missing, we must remeber that the players who have passed through the doors of the club, many did not turn up as a lengend but many certainly left one.
All the money aside Carrol has the potential to be that person, to help we need now to believe in the motto, "You'll never walk alone!"
Also against Chelsea on Sunday we can raise the roof at Stanford Bridge, as a constant reminder throughout the game to Torres of the club he has left behind, because Chelsea will never have the reputation that Liverpool has earned, it doesn't matter how many trophies they win they will never, ever be as good as Liverpool!

01 Feb 2011 08:52:38

His attitude proved he is a red suarez suarez
Liverpool is my dream he said suarez suarez
We bought the lad from uraguay,
We'll win the league and watch r**t boy cry
Luis suarez liverpools no.7.

01 Feb 2011 08:50:39
Ones short, ones tall they're good on the ball carroll suarez
ones short, ones tall, they're good on the ball carroll suarez
they'll break ya jaw or bite ya ear
but all you'll hear from the kops a cheer
who the f*** is fernando torres

how dya like that ed ? {ed's note - made me smile, even if I am not keen on either's past, the song is still good.}

01 Feb 2011 08:49:17
I think the andy carroll deal i great business. If we were to sign an at the time world class striker we would be having to pay around the same some but wages of probably 90,000 more a week than what carroll's 70,000-80,000 a week contract, who has the potential to be world class, he scares to death every defender in the league. this alone would save us 5 million a year, just look at shevshenko was on 130,000 a week cost 32 mill and flopped (not prem proven), as for torres and drogba that sounds lethal, but it won't be for too long wiv the drog allready soon turning 33

01 Feb 2011 08:46:00

Do not shoot me down for this, but have we not just sold Torres for 50 million, Babel for 6 million, sent Konchesky and a few others on loan. We have bought Carroll 35 million, Suarez 23 million. So we brought in 56 million and spent 58 million. Net spend 2 million. Now the wages of those incoming are certainly less than those outgoing. Torres was 110.000 k a week and Babel 60k per week. My bet is the new boys will be 80k week each. Therefore in wages we save 10k a week or 500k ish a year. We loaned out Konchesky, so we also save his 60k wages or maybe half if we are paying half. Therefore out net spend this window is basically nothing.

I am not having a dig here, but I wait with baited breath for the summer window as I have seen no ambition from FSG as yet. Like I said I will reserve judgement in the summer. Given we are lkely to pick up money for the aquaman and various others that will leave, I am looking to see how much of their money they will bang into the club.

Oh, i also forgot the extra money from the Mascherano sale that was not spent which was around 6 million, so since FSG took over, we are 5 million in the positive. IMHO that is not good enough and that is what Torres means by lack of ambition. If Torres had not left, I am not convinced we would have signed anyone, but that is just my opinion and I wait to be proved wrong in the summer. {ed's note - you might sound like you had a clue what you were talking about if you even knew who the owners were! FSG do not own the club.}

01 Feb 2011 08:42:04

Ed devasted about fernando think all get over him on Sunday when carra has him in his pocket (hopefully)

01 Feb 2011 08:29:42
Have jst read on 365Football that Carroll was forced out of Newcastle! reported Text from him stating he dsnt want to leave but there forcing him cause they jst wanted the money! So tell me again Why do we want him if he didn't even want to come? . . hoping this dsnt turn out to be another aquaman purchase. by or so much $$$ sell a yr later for half the price. . Thoughts Ed? ? {ed's note - I don't see how that matters? At least he is not an incredible sulk forcing his way out. I had been saying all transfer window that Ashley was trying to force the lad out but no one would listen.}

01 Feb 2011 08:28:49
Hey Reds,

Well Well . . what a brilliant end to the transfer period.

Torres . . what can I say about him. I'm sure all of you feel the same thing. The only reason we feel dissappointed is because he left us for Chelsea. Had he have left for a different club in a different European country, we'd not have bothered as much. DO NOT FORGET how crap he has been over the past 18 months. We stood by him with hope in our hearts that his form would return, but it did not. Whenever I saw him play, it just seemed that his heart was not in it, and clearly it wasn't. Why in the world would we want someone who didn't want to be a Red. I am glad he has gone because he was a bit of a primadona. The only thing that kept us supporting him was hope. We do not need hope, we want results, and this he did not give us since his first season. Good riddance and for a SUPERB fee.

With our 2 new strikers, we have got a new breed of player. A ravished, hungry, hot blooded, dedicated, very tough and 100% loyal pair. They are real footballers. Ask Ajax or any Uruguyan about Suarez or ask the crying Geordies about Carroll. They could have gotten into any first 11, but they chose Liverpool. I don't care how much Carroll cost us, perhaps it was a bit steep, but then again when he starts firing, we will look back at £35 mil as a steal. After Torres's transfer fee, we hardly spent anything.

Even Babel who never performed to his abilities at Liverpool departed with happy thoughts and good wishes for our beloeved club. Did we get the same from El Nino? No. He could have at least uttered a few gracious words for the support he received from all of us. He shall miss the chants from the Kop. he shall miss support. He shall miss LFC.

I know in my heart that with Kenny we will climb to the top once again . . by next season we will be THE team in the EPL.

I'm having a good laugh right now . . Torres in Blue . . ha HA. He is certainly not as good as Drogba and he will find out soon enough when he is substituted on a regular basis.

Do I wish him well? Certainly not. I wish him the worst, but not because he left us . . because he plays for Chelski. He is gone and thank god for that. He is now the enemy.

I supported Ghana at the World Cup so also hated Suarez. All is forgiven my dear Red, I always wanted a player like you at Anfiled, and here you are. A hot blooded Street fighter. BOO YAA! With Carroll by your side or at the front, you 2 are going to TERRORISE defences. I look forward to it.

Finally, a big job well cone to NESV, Kenny and Comolli. I haven't been this excited since our last Champions league title. Thank you for listening to the fans, thank you for supporting Kenny and thank you for believing how much the beloved club means to us. Much respect.

Of course, a thank you to the ED's for a brilliant site. I have become far less productive at work since I found you guys :):):)

01 Feb 2011 08:28:32
Hey Reds,

Well Well . . what a brilliant end to the transfer period.

Torres . . what can I say about him. I'm sure all of you feel the same thing. The only reason we feel dissappointed is because he left us for Chelsea. Had he have left for a different club in a different European country, we'd not have bothered as much. DO NOT FORGET how crap he has been over the past 18 months. We stood by him with hope in our hearts that his form would return, but it did not. Whenever I saw him play, it just seemed that his heart was not in it, and clearly it wasn't. Why in the world would we want someone who didn't want to be a Red. I am glad he has gone because he was a bit of a primadona. The only thing that kept us supporting him was hope. We do not need hope, we want results, and this he did not give us since his first season. Good riddance and for a SUPERB fee.

With our 2 new strikers, we have got a new breed of player. A ravished, hungry, hot blooded, dedicated, very tough and 100% loyal pair. They are real footballers. Ask Ajax or any Uruguyan about Suarez or ask the crying Geordies about Carroll. They could have gotten into any first 11, but they chose Liverpool. I don't care how much Carroll cost us, perhaps it was a bit steep, but then again when he starts firing, we will look back at £35 mil as a steal. After Torres's transfer fee, we hardly spent anything.

Even Babel who never performed to his abilities at Liverpool departed with happy thoughts and good wishes for our beloeved club. Did we get the same from El Nino? No. He could have at least uttered a few gracious words for the support he received from all of us. He shall miss the chants from the Kop. he shall miss support. He shall miss LFC.

I know in my heart that with Kenny we will climb to the top once again . . by next season we will be THE team in the EPL.

I'm having a good laugh right now . . Torres in Blue . . ha HA. He is certainly not as good as Drogba and he will find out soon enough when he is substituted on a regular basis.

Do I wish him well? Certainly not. I wish him the worst, but not because he left us . . because he plays for Chelski. He is gone and thank god for that. He is now the enemy.

I supported Ghana at the World Cup so also hated Suarez. All is forgiven my dear Red, I always wanted a player like you at Anfiled, and here you are. A hot blooded Street fighter. BOO YAA! With Carroll by your side or at the front, you 2 are going to TERRORISE defences. I look forward to it.

Finally, a big job well cone to NESV, Kenny and Comolli. I haven't been this excited since our last Champions league title. Thank you for listening to the fans, thank you for supporting Kenny and thank you for believing how much the beloved club means to us. Much respect.

Of course, a thank you to the ED's for a brilliant site. I have become far less productive at work since I found you guys :):):)

01 Feb 2011 08:28:23
Dear Stevie & Jamie,

Please help me.
I saved up all my pocket money and my Christmas money and bought my first ever Liverpool shirt with No 9 and TORRES on the back. I was chuffed to bits when I got it 2 weeks ago and all my friends were really jealous of me - he he!
On Sunday I wore it at my football club training and those same friends made fun of me because they said Torres was leaving Liverpool. I didn't believe them but, they made me cry.
This morning my Dad told me about him joining Chelsea, I cried even more because I know those same kids will take the mickey even more now. I'm frightened to wear my shirt ever again.
So I am asking you to do me a favour on Sunday. PLEAE, if you get chance, can you give that slimey Spaniard a h. .king good kick in his greasy cods from me!

Thank you.

Harry (aged 6)

PS - My Mum has burned his book this morning and my Dad said he would buy me a Stevie G shirt on Saturday!

01 Feb 2011 08:27:58
Can't beleive torres used the 'big club' dig at us ,
lets see who's laughing wen we kill ur title chances for good on sunday , personally i am excited to see the caroll and saurez partnership great piece of buisness i think , alough 35 million a bit steep but he is a future star ,

ed how long is caroll out for i have haerd he has already been out for a month and he is nearlly back ?

{editor: He is nearly back.}

01 Feb 2011 08:27:33

Torres quoted as saying "target for every footballer is to try to play for one of top clubs in Europe"
Didn't he sign for Chelsea?? ?
Adios Torres. . alreeeeet Carroll. New number 9.
Liver_bird

01 Feb 2011 08:25:47
We've got to get rid of Comolli. He has cost us vital time and money with his negotiating tactics and it is only going to get worse in the Summer. He should have had a list of targets ready to go first week in January. As it stands we got one of our targets and a very expensive panic buy on the last day of the window and he's been here almost as long as the owners, let us hope and pray John and Tom see through him and cut him loose as soon as we get a CEO in.

01 Feb 2011 08:24:30
The should be no room for ex players at Liverpool football club. Xabi alonso was forced to leave by Rafa. He was a great player and deserves to come to LFC and watch his fellow players. What we shouldn't entertain are players like mascherano and Torres who shown no respect to this club. They played and were played for a job, that's all.

As much as we all loved them for their contribution, we should understand that they were here only for the sake of glory and earning the highest they could. Imagine mash wasn't able to brake into the westham team. LFC gave him the chance to prove himself. He stabbed us. All foreign players get home sick or want to move on. We made a mistake by signing so many of them, that is the reason we are in a mess now. Lets learn from the mistakes and go home grown for the majority of the players.

01 Feb 2011 08:19:08
Firstly, thanks for the mobile version of the site. Much easier.

Secondly, why all the hassle about what the Eds may or may not actually know? Isn't this a rumour/ gossip site? Isn't half the fun not knowing whether some of the more outlandish suggestions may actually be true?

I thought it was a fascinating deadline day. And the reasons that all clubs leave it so late are fairly opbvious, not least becasue its a competitive business. If you can get the oppositions top man late one it gives them less time to find a replacement etc.

Shame about Torres. But that's football. He'll be in spain, or maybe italy, before he's 30. And still searching for trophies. Chelsea's best move was David Luiz. Good, good player. The sort we need.

Whether Andy and Lu turn out (yeah, I know) to be the new tosh and keegan I don't know. But you look at them and think "goals".

I believe we did try for a winger but I'm not sure who. My money's on a French league 1 player but I haven't sussed who. Not Hazard (hasn't he said no thanks?) And prob not the crocked Marveaux.

Line up? Who knows. 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 (4-5-1)?

Dawkins

01 Feb 2011 08:18:45
Carroll injured? out for a month? really hope not.
we need him up in attack with luis.

to all lfc fans:
Please lets not boo torres on sunday if he plays.
cheer and he will realise even more - the mistake he's made.

what you think ed? great site by the way.

Don't boo torres you're having a laugh, throw f***ing coins at the c**t, ive finally joined a big club, you'll eat your f***ing words from next season hope terry likes your misses, i suppose if he doesn't he can alwyas f*** you your queer girl

01 Feb 2011 08:18:24

Morning all,

I for am gutted somewhat regarding torres, but more amusingly his quotes after signing 'i have signed for a big club now, i am happy, i am now playing for a team that i should be playing for at my level' . . Well fernando good luck and thankyou, especially for your timing, but onwards and upwards i say. Oh and remember, chelsea need a huge overhaul in their aged squad.

Chris

01 Feb 2011 08:16:08
Torres has reported that he has joined a top club, mmmmm what are we apart from having a bad season, hopefully now we have rid of the whinger and have players who will show grit and passion for the rest of the season

01 Feb 2011 08:13:13
TRAI (TOR ) RES

01 Feb 2011 08:10:05
Spare a thought for Newcastle fans lads and lasses. They must be gutted! The signing of Carroll to them must be like us selling Robbie Fowler when he was 20. They have lost their local boy hero and best striker midway through the season - got loads of £££s but can't do anything with it until the summer. Hope they stay up!

Be interesting to hear what Alan Shearer says about this on football focus at the weekend!
Iggypop

01 Feb 2011 08:03:56

We'll have to go the rest of the season with Aurelio as our only natural left back. Johnson can fill in there, but he's not even a good right back so good luck there. LB and LW positions are my only concerns now. Anyway, we now have a better squad than we did day before yesterday which is encouraging. It's also a real shame that Charlie Adam knows he could've been playing for one of the greatest European clubs in history in us, yet finish the season at 8,000 a week at Blackpool.

01 Feb 2011 07:49:37

Cant believe we still haven't bought a winger

01 Feb 2011 07:36:24

Ed, when will carroll be fit and do you think suarez will be played up front on his own until carroll is fit

{editor: I expect Carroll to be fit by Saturday, not sure if he will play against Chelsea. I think N'Gog may get a chance or even Pacheco with Suarez.}

01 Feb 2011 07:36:07

Hi ed, great news about suarez and carroll thank god we got the sulky traitor away, i was wondering where the bel and unbel buttons on the site where? site or just my comp? cheers mate!

{editor: They had to be taken off because they were overloading the servers!}

01 Feb 2011 07:35:42

Ed, what do you think about this buisness done for us during this window? I personally can't say I'm happy as we splashed a load of cash on Carroll and we didn't sign a winger. I'm not disappointed, but I can't say I'm happy.

{editor: I am not fussed, we sold a sulky injury prone traitor for £50m and signed one of Englands top rated young strikers for £35m. Suarez is another good signing. I am a little disappointed we didnt sign a winger.}

01 Feb 2011 07:35:14
Oh luis suarez, better than torres,
he came from ajax to liverpool,
hes continental,
hes f***in mental,
so don't take our luis away

01 Feb 2011 07:33:36
He punches birds and burns his house.
But we don't care that's fkn scouse.
Andy carroll liverpools number 9
na na na na na na na

01 Feb 2011 07:31:10
Has anyone seen Comolli?? Maybe someone should tell him the transfer window is shut and he can come home now?

01 Feb 2011 07:25:28

Alot of people carrying on about torres he is gone now he didn't do much don't forget he was the only real striker we had i think he got upset that we brang in another striker he knew what was happening with liverpool new era he didn't want to be part of injury prone im glad he is going to chelsea good bye why do people love theese players they don't care about you its the club you love not the players he is just a name and number livrpool will walk on watch out man u man city chelsea arsenal maybe tottenham were back

01 Feb 2011 07:24:54

Luis Suarez £22.7m & Andy Carroll £35m. . . . . . .nobody expect dis 4rm Lfc.2 great signing, u're highly welcome.LS7 & AC9. . . . . . .YNWA! LFC BASH.

01 Feb 2011 07:23:33
If anybody doubted LFC look at the posts we generate. Massive.

Spriggo

01 Feb 2011 07:23:05

Please put this on rumours, thanks Ed.

I've been told by Roman's uncle gardener nephew the reason they bought torres is bcos Roman can't stand to witness torres score against them come this 6th Feb. So hes left with no option other than to make torres one of them, albeit of the sum of money he has to spend. lol

But guess what? He'll be having new headache as now he has to dig for more money to buy suarez and carroll too. who both will score goals for liverpool, at stamford bridge, in front of his very eyes!

in KK we trust!

liverthen

01 Feb 2011 07:21:27
You know u should of stayed a red torres torres,
U could of been a f@*ckin ledge torres torres,
U said u'd be a red for life, now john terrys sh*ggin your wife,
Fernando Torres, chelsea new rentboy!

I wanna thank nando for the good times but shocked and ashamed that he was so fickle in his move to chavski, "a top level team" who we'll be 3points behind come sunday tea. Although nando's gone our squad has improved, shame no wingers, maybe we'll see more of pacheco and amoo? Anyways new chapter in the mighty red history, its club first above any player, even the greatest player to ever wear the shirt knows that and in Kenny we trust. Long live the king!

01 Feb 2011 07:19:57

Hi all what an exciting day yesterday was

just red that torres said he can now play for a top club bit of a dig at us i think proberly because some of our fans were burning his shirt outside melwood i say good luck to him break a leg son (or get one sunday) hehe isn't sureaz better than carrol and blackpool are just mean to adam had the chance of 2 big clubs us and spurs he will go in summer but i think we will get him utd were just trying to get us to panic buy f*** you fergie didn't work now go and retire

lfcmike

01 Feb 2011 07:10:34

So we sell
torres 50mil
ryan babel 06mil= 56mil

we buy
andy carrol 35mil
luis suarez 22.7mil=57.7mil

gr8 we only spend 2.7 mill nsev r making us fools

01 Feb 2011 07:04:28

Hey Guys

So the transfer window is finally shut.
Now lets look forward to our next match against stoke.

Who do you all want to be in the starting 11 for the game tomorrow?

01 Feb 2011 07:01:34
Look carroll wasn't my number one choice but from what i've seen of him at least he has some fire in his belly unlike torres. chelsea will be screwed when both anelka and torres get pms at the same time! good luck carlo.
at least we're doing things the right way and buying young players

01 Feb 2011 06:31:28

Over the moon we have got carrol and suarez(how long is carrol out for) but feel sick to my stomach seeing torres holding a chelsea shirt! i for one wish him well but wish it was in another country,

01 Feb 2011 06:28:37

Guys. Its been a sensational day for liverpool. .in past 7 years. .
New owners just showed y they are just brilliant. .we recieved 56 mill from sales and we spent the same amount in puchase.
Very sad to see Torres leaving us. .but great to see bringing carol and saurez. .
now people say he is not even worth 20 mil. i do accept it.
spurs bid 30 mil for hi but turned down.
Now he knows that he has to perform. .becoz he don't have any choice. and i think he will. .with gerrard, meireles, saurez, kuyt, maxi, liverpool looks solid up front. . . .
chelsea. yes they got the best striker in the world. .but wer is he gonna play. 4-4-2. with essien and lampard in the mid. .and malouda on the wings. .with drogba and torres up front. will not work. .torres has only worked in 4-2-3-1 formation.
chelsea and torres gonna regret. .
but I am happy since. we have striker at the age of 21-23. and pool will not buy any other striker for another 5 years. .means. both carrol and saurez gets enough time to settle. .and they would.

waiting for feb sixth. just beat chelsea. .and that's enough.
chelsea has to play man u home and away, city, arsenal, spurs, liverpool and sunderland. .top 4 finish. very difficult for them. .

Ed what u think on the above?? ?

01 Feb 2011 06:27:23
Firstly, thanks Eds, must have been hard work yesterday, especially after reading some of the posts from complete planks on here.
Why are some of you NEVER happy? This time last week people were moaning that there had been no activity, that Comolli was a thief for taking wages that he'd done nothing to deserve etc. Now your'e moaning because we've just smashed our own transfer records TWICE in three days. .FFS what do you people want? ? Torres wanted to go, so let him. Get as much money as you can for him, which we did and replace him with talent that will put the fear of god into defenders. .Suarez and Carroll do that in my book. .Total lack of class from Nando with his comments after signing for Chavski. .what a perfect match they are.
Let's move on and back The King now.
G SPOT

01 Feb 2011 06:16:08
ED
Looks like we have done some good business. Lets look at this in detail

We sold
Babel 5.8 mill
Torres 50 mill
Total income 55.8 mill

Purchased
Suarez 22.8 mill
Carroll 35 mill
total outlay 57.8 mill.

Books balanced which is great.

If we can raise 25 mill in the summer off player sales (Aquilani, Kuyt, konchesky, Insua) and the board will sanction 25 then we ca do some major rebuilding.

KK revolution just starting

01 Feb 2011 06:08:56
Let me get this right, nando said in his CHELSEA interview he wanted to play for a big club. . .cheeky f***er.

hope carra snaps his frickin legs.

what a complete t*sser!

matty b

01 Feb 2011 06:08:35

Just like to say i know everyone is slaggin you off because your leavin this late in transfer window but you had some amazing games and i shall be erternally grateful to you . . . thank you PAUL KONCHESKY!

01 Feb 2011 06:02:54

Watched Torres interview & was disappointed with his comments. Idolised by the Kop & led fans up the garden path. I was in the Hodgson camp at the start, but accept it was a wrong move & that manager/ club wasn't a good fit, but I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking all that tine towards the end of Hodgson's reign, we all were anti-Hodgson. Looking at it now though I feel sorry for the guy as he backed Torres up all the way, but it turns out Torres form coincides with the transfer window & angling for a move from the start.
Torres interview - no mention of him missing LFC, No mention of a thank you for his time at LFC, No mention good luck to team.
Says he's joining a bigger club, a step up in his career. . I hope like me that we all feel a little stupid for putting so much faith into a player & mentioning him in same breath as Rush - taking him into our hearts as a Kop hero!
On his day he maybe one of the best in the world, but as a man he's a disgrace.

Gav the Red

01 Feb 2011 05:35:43
I wonder how Chelsea will accommodate the three ego's up front. Someone will have to sit on the bench at some stage - Drogba, Le Sulk and now El Sulk - I can sense some dummy spitting coming at Chelsea, but what else is new - Good luck Carlo - LIVERPRES

01 Feb 2011 05:26:19

MACCA has been proved wrong this time but still we love u and will follow u even on twitter

Great STEVE MACCA

Was Macca not the man who said Kenny would lead us through the storm ?
Was Macca not the man who said Suarez would be signed ?
Was Macca not the man who said Ratbag (Sorry Torres) would leave?
If Macca was alive 2000 years ago he would be hailed as a prophet and we would all be now placing a baby Macca in the crib at christmas.
And from now on we shall all be know as Maccabites and revolt against fickle Bas****s who pretend to love our club. I hope the fans travelling next Sunday unveil a banner with the words Torres spewed last week.

"My head is in Liverpool and on helping save our season. I am professional and I always fulfil my deals."

But my bank account is up Romans Ass and I miss Rafa so much.

In the words of a previous Liverpool Legend " I would Love it if we beat them, LOVE IT."

YNWA

01 Feb 2011 05:24:17

Have not slept. Too excited about yesterday's goings-ons. Sad to see Torres go as he is my absolute favourite player. Bt his departure may just be exactly what we needed. Carroll and Suarez seems to be the makings of the next great Liverpool striking partnership. I just wonder what the rest of the team looks like for this year. Barring the odd chance that we have signed another player and it is just not public knowledge yet (like Arshavin was at Arse), I would think we will line up like this:
Reina
Kelly, Carra, Agger, Aurelio*
Johnson, Mereiles, Lucas, Gerrard**
Suarez, Carroll

*Aurelio is our only senior left back in the squad at the moment but I would not be surprised to see Insua recalled, or Wilson given a chance here

**I think Kenny will talk Stevie G into putting a shift in on the left for the rest of the season. But if Gerrard is in the middle then Joe Cole or Jovanovic would be out on the left.

Any additions, corrections, or concerns?

Anfield Rapstar

01 Feb 2011 05:10:01
Anyone got a pigs head ready for sunday? lets show him how much of traitor he is!

01 Feb 2011 05:09:53

It's okay to make fun of me writing so much at a rumour site without writing about a rumour, and it took me some time to write it, but I can't sleep because of the pain seeing Torres in the Chelsea interview, and the excitment arround our new striking force. So why not? I have used my last six hours thinking about the partnership between Suarez and Carroll. Suarez - probably a better finisher than Torres(and Torres is a good finisher), he got a great first touch(unlike Torres) and likes to go wide and make perfect crosses with his right foot. Suarez is agile and can turn very quickly. Are you getting to close as a defender he's going to run arround you. Carroll is opposite of Suarez. He's big and strong and probably the best header in PL. He's a lefty and scores with his feet as well as his head. He workes hard and would be as important at ofensive as defensive set pieces. And that is worth a lot for Liverpool. For a long time we have been giving away goals almost every game on set pieces, maybe Carroll can change that. Think about the service Suarez are going to give Carroll with crosses, and the assists Carroll can give Suarez if he heads the ball down to him insde the box. Both the strikers can also score from distance. The only thing that we are missing is great speed. I don't know how fast Suarez and Carrol are, but I guess that its not to bad, but neither Walcott-fast either.

I'm always positive, as we Liverpool fans often are, and after six hours with late night thinking I can't see why not Carroll and Suarez are going to score 20 goals each per season for the next ten years. It's sad that we didn't get a left wing and left back, and I feel really bad for C. Adam. But it's anyways next season that are important. And if we spend our money well in the summer I think we are back among the title contenders. So maybe this is a rumour about Liverpool getting back to where we belong, and also a rumour about our new amazing strikers.

"THE HORSE AND THE CANNIBAL CONQUERS THE PL!" I like the sound of it all ready, .

01 Feb 2011 05:09:15

His Transfer said he was a red, Carroll, Carroll.

You'll Never Walk Alone we Said, Carroll, Carroll.

We Hope he doesn't go to jail,

But if he does, we'll pay his bail,

Andy Carroll, Liverpool's lu-na-tic

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ha brilliant mate. Hope he recovers fast. Really hoping he'll be there to tear up the Chelski defense on Sunday.

01 Feb 2011 04:59:14

Just hearing that Chelsea had offered 70 million for the pair of Gerrard and Torres. Kenny virtually begged Gerrard to stay till the summer. expect to see him leave for Madrid for 25 million.
now clubs know we're looking to sell, and they see we're willing to pay over the odds for overrated replacements. . expect us to get sc$%wed in the transfer market for years

why is kenny looking to buy overrated English players who we know fall short of their potential with alarming frequency now a days?

is this some sort of statement? that he will buy English and Scottish players? is he living in a world 20 years ago?

Anyways gutted, not going to go to support anything now. i don't want to watch us struggle and with a biter and the future joey Barton now playing for us, HAH

{editor: Suarez it from Uraguay, hardly the East coast...}

01 Feb 2011 04:43:20
1-the people complaining about Carrolls fee are ridiculous. Newcastle werent desperate to sell. Sometimes you have to force a teams hand and make an offer they can't refuse.

2-Considering we essentially had zero net spending this window we should be able to spend big this summer. No reason we can't go out and buy another big time forward in the summer. Another star type player. Imagine an attack force of Carroll, Suarez and another star type player. Could be scary.

We were obviously willing to spend money on Suarez and Adam this window and that would have been without the Torres money. So that shows about 30 mil in terms of willingness to spend. Id be shocked if NESV wouldn't have been willing to spend a similar amount in summer. No reason we can't splash out 60 mil plus in transfers over the summer for the right players.

Adding 2 young players like Carroll and Suarez could be the absolute key in returning us to glory!

01 Feb 2011 04:25:34

Why is everyone talking rubbish! we lost Torres n paid well over the top for carroll who is injured, i know the owners have done the best thing by us by buying us a striker now, but we only got him coz lorente, hulk and agureo won't come now. please don't get too excited we play chelski scum in 6 days time n we will watch torres score 3 against us.

01 Feb 2011 03:41:44
Let us all welcome in a new era under KK, a strike force to strike fear into the premiership for years to come, add some width in the summer and we will look down on Torres and his lumbering band of mercenary aging dinosaurs from atop the table!
Never has a player left such a sour taste with his hollow words. 50 million squid for a player who seems to have lost a yard of pace since his injuries is a great piece of business.
I for one remember the glory days when our side was built around homegrown talent, up and coming British players with the odd world class foreigner. I say bring in Adam, Young, Richards as well as the turkish delight of Turan and silverware will follow!
YNWA

01 Feb 2011 03:28:40
We have to realise that although the carrol fee was immense to say the.least , but we were not going to be left with just one striker, so who to bid for? carol had been scouted by us and was probably a summer target but with nando puttin in transfer request and us loosin konk (tfft), we we light in the home grown dept. also we all heard of newcastles struggle.to get nzogbia from wigan late on ten then twelve mill. don't ya think if he, d av gone in around twenty mill ashley would hav got his man? it was real late in the window , carrol is english (thers six t ten mill just for nationality in todays silly market).and to be fair age.is on his side.
newcastle fans rated him big time, a mate of mine , a geordie, thinks we got a bargain, im not sure bout a bargain but if he lives up to his hype and stays out of the nightclubs we could have a gem. bin a while since we had a strong physical player upfront, heskey was the last lump we had up front n we all know how many goals he got for owen. pity the stoke game comes so soon cud av dun wit carrol for that one.
summer wish list . . .santon , contrao, arda , cahill (g) , connor wickham .
ynwa j496

01 Feb 2011 03:23:00
Welcome Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll. Welome to the best supported fans going. We will back you regardless. Good luck and don't be afraid we have got yor back.

Spriggo.

01 Feb 2011 03:15:40

We bought the boy from Geordieland, Carroll, Carroll
He cost 35 million pound, Carroll, Carroll
He'll get the ball he'll score the goal
He's bigger than the Superbowl
Andy Carroll, Liverpool's Number 9!

01 Feb 2011 03:13:24
I have serious doubts over Suarez being able to perform in the premier league only time will tell.
As for Andy Carroll he has only 6 months experiance in the premier league and so far has done very well and it's a shame he's injured.
Some fans would still be unhappy if we had just signed Messi and David villa. What are your thoughts on Carroll and suarez ed?

{editor: Both good players, I am hoping they form a formiidable partnership. Suarez behind Carroll has potential to be deadly.}

01 Feb 2011 03:07:02
Hi eds, doing a great job, looking at lfc site, has kenny shrunk or is ac a tall son of a bitch, looks awesome, jimmybosun,

{editor: Andy Carroll is 6 foot 3.}

01 Feb 2011 03:02:14
It's time for the fans to get behind the whole team now, owners, directors, players and the staff.

No more moaning at the match which has players scared to hold onto the ball or scared to pass it for fear of negative reaction from the crowd.

The owners have shown their intent by backing the king financially, now its up to us, the fans to back the team in a positive way, COME ON LIVERPOOL!

YNWA

01 Feb 2011 02:55:43

He used to play in black and white Caroll, Caroll
He said I'm off your�fc*king **** Caroll, Carroll
We brought the lad to merseyside
There's nowere for defenders to hide
Andy Carroll.�Liverpool's�new 'number 9

01 Feb 2011 02:55:24

He shoots, he scores, he'll break your fc*king jaw, Andy Carroll, Andy Carroll.

01 Feb 2011 02:55:04

Ed, i am delighted with signings of Suarez and Carroll but it sickens me to see Torres in the blue of Chelsea. Can you please explain what may have triggered his move? as i don't believe it was the fact that chelsea are a bigger club and in an ideal scenario we would prfer Tores and suarez upfront instead of Suarez and Carroll. did torres have major bust up within club?

Kam
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I believe there could be 65,000 more reasons per week that made him switch - a shame - didn't think he was like that (hope I'm wrong) - LIVERPRES

01 Feb 2011 02:51:04
Have NESV pulled off shrewd business or pulled one over our eyes?
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How could they have pulled one over us? They brought in Suarez to play with Torres. Torres wanted to go so they replaced him, which means they reinvested the sale proceeds back in to the squad (instead of aking a quick buck as some posters have suggested on here in the past). They promised us nothing this window.

Us fans have been crying out for a lot, but they didn't promise anything. All they said is they don't want players here who don't want to be, and they will buy young talent in preference to older "experienced" players on high wages. They have delivered something for us to get excited about in my opinion.

People spouting off garbage like that are impossible to please. Stop looking for negatives people - unite and support what is happening at our club.

This comment is to all doubters in general and not a pesonal jibe at the original poster - LIVERPRES

01 Feb 2011 02:50:35
Can we please stop bashing NESV. That was good business today. Summer will be here soon. Today is not a bandage for this year. It is for the future, and will benefit the team in the short term as well.

When there is more money spent will the whining and moaning stop.

NESV are good owners

{editor: People have to think that if this was still the HnG era the money for Torres would have gone on debt repayments.}

01 Feb 2011 02:36:42

A bit disapointed we signed no wingers i'd hoped we'd be in for turan or honda but carrol 35m? and suarez wil do for me roll on sunday 4pm torres i had a love for but not after his interview it's sickening

01 Feb 2011 02:34:48
Ed, i am delighted with signings of Suarez and Carroll but it sickens me to see Torres in the blue of Chelsea. Can you please explain what may have triggered his move? as i don't believe it was the fact that chelsea are a bigger club and in an ideal scenario we would prfer Tores and suarez upfront instead of Suarez and Carroll. did torres have major bust up within club?

Kam

{editor: I can't help but believe he was tapped up. In his interview for Chelsea he said that he is glad its all sorted after 12 days of negotiating. Hang on? Was it not the 26th we rejected a bid? He was tapped up.}

01 Feb 2011 02:32:43
He shoots again and scores a goal Suarez, Suarez
Not a f***ing a**hole like, Torres, Torres
From Red to Blue just for cash, Nando you can kiss my a**, now Andy Carroll is wearing your number 9!

Now you play with Terry and Fat Frank, The Plank
When you said you stay you gave our chain a yank, a yank
Money means much more the the shirt? Like a pr*stit*te in a mini-skirt
Fernando Torres, Chelski's new f***ing swine!

When you come back to Anfield all your gonna hear are boos
And ask yourself why did I ever want to join the Blues
Once again when were on top, you'll be forgotten at the Kop
When Andy Carroll beats you in exta time,
ANDY CARROLL LIVERPOOLS NUMBER 9!

01 Feb 2011 02:29:56
Just seen Torres on Chelsea tv, Newcastle fans will see the same when Carrol appears on LFC tv.
Torres has been at Liverpool for 3 and a half years but leaves on a whim in 3 days, why are we still giving these people our support?
Is now the time to say as football fans that the adoration of players is over? That we want our team to do well, but that we know our heroes are a few £k from belonging to someone else.
Or is the new reality that there is no loyalty, players don't want trophies, just cash, and that as fans we are the ultimate mugs because we still care?

01 Feb 2011 02:25:42

Ed can you please give the exact update and information on Carroll's injury?

{editor: He should be back for the Chelsea game I believe.}

01 Feb 2011 02:24:20
Hi ed.im trying to kill 2 birds with one stone so to speak im a staunch lfc fan and also run a hedgehog rescue from home, im unemployed and got made redundant 2 yrs am aged 55, i have some vids on yt of hoggies from the past couple of yrs and named some of them after pool players, ive changed the name of the ones called torres to traitor, the next 2 males we get in will be called luis and andy, can i just say all hoggies are not flea bags as the hundreds ive handled only the poorly ones have fleas, which has been about 5 this yr, and they are host specific they will not live on you yr dog or cat, please lets look after these poor little endangered animals, it would be such a shame if our grandkids grow up never having seen a hoggie, if anyone is interested in knowing more get in touch with me via yt or the eds, please eds put this plea in forum, ynwa jimmybosun, (thats my name on yt)or warrington hedgehog rescue, come on you reds,

01 Feb 2011 02:24:08
Where to begin. . . . . .
Nando's timing was horrible. He's was essentially a greedy twerp at the end of the day and his play for the most part over the last 2 seasons will beg a lot of questions to be answered. His comments tonight were shallow and misinformed. Thanks for the memories and good riddance. My parting shot to nando is this. . 'your 2 goals against Chelski this season may have cost you a title come May". Backs to the wall with 2 days to go we came out and went after our targets. Llorente, Aguero, Adam, Young, Nagredo, Tivonen etc were all felt out. What pissed me off more than anything else were the actions of Slur Alki regarding Adam and 'Arry "Del Boy" Redknapp regarding all other targets we had. He tested the waters regarding the prices and established a price and gave an impression that they were in the market. I believe they were both meddling. We ended up overpaying but who would be fair when they knew we had 56M in our pocket. Thankfully KK was and is at the helm.
The big picture is this. We got a potentially lethal strike force. I'd prefer to have 2 instead of one. They're younger and will be hungry. As for the thug comments i'll say this. He's away from home in a big Fish tank and no longer in a fishbowl. Andy is a guy with alot to live up to. At Liverpool under the tutelage of KK and Clarkey, with the title of the most expensive British and club record fee he can become an exceptional player. Someone need to take him under their wing and help him mature rapidly. Saurez (seems genuinely happy to be here) and AC will score more than Torres will on his own. I've stated here in the past that I love what Kevin Davies does for Bolton. AC is a similar type that will simply score more goals. N'gog will learn more of how to play as a big man too now that AC is here.If he develops as he is, he will become a nice option or a nice moneymaker in another market for us. Joe Cole has to go wide now if he wants to play. He's good enough and hopefully begins to live up to expectations. Over all I'm happy and if we can add 2 or 3 more pieces in the summer (Cahill, Sakho, Honda/ Turan and a speedster wide man, promote Jack Robinson now, we'll be in great shape.

Welcome Andy. Alot is expected of you on and off the field but you have a clean slate.

Welcome Luis. I feel sorry for you having being overshadowed on your big day on Friday with FT's antics and than again today with AC's arrival but you can become a superstar.

Well done KK and staff in keeping the upsurge alive. We trust you and you'll always have our support.

Well done Mr. Henry and Mr. Werner. NESV showed us that your here to do the right thing for LFC and its Fans. You've answered the bell 3 times now and did it with class and distinction.

Well done Ed, Editor and all other eds on a great job over the last 3-4 days for giving us fans the news and forum to express our views and humour.

Finally, LFC fans, we are brothers and sisters together in one big family. Let us get back to the Liverpool way and support out warriors on the field of battle. The humour and passion of some of the diehards here can be seen by all. This is the greatest club in the world and we need to get behind it. It's time to sing and be heard again. Good times are coming and we need to be as one.

Chi-Paul.

01 Feb 2011 02:18:57

# His transfer proved he was red Suarez Suarez,

You'll never walk alone he said Suarez Suarez,

We bought the lad to replace Torres,

He'll score more goals come on Suarez,

Antonio Suarez Liverpools number 7. .

Na na na na na na na na na na na na. .#

{editor: Antonio?}

01 Feb 2011 02:15:58
This might just be me, but it seems that nobody has ever questioned just where Abramovic got his money from. He's often quoted as being a Russian oligarch, but just how do you get that job. As I understand it the break up of the Soviet Union led not to freedom of the people but to large portions of a totalitarian sate being carved up for the benefit of political supporters.
So, Fernado Torres has shown that he is not only not a man of the people (i.e. Liverpool) but is very much a man of the Man is who is not a Man of the People (Abramovic).
Torres is not only a liar and a hypocrite, he is too thick to understand who he works for.

01 Feb 2011 02:11:02
Carroll injured? out for a month? really hope not.
we need him up in attack with luis.

to all lfc fans:
Please lets not boo torres on sunday if he plays.
cheer and he will realise even more - the mistake he's made.

what you think ed? great site by the way.

01 Feb 2011 02:06:07
{Editor Note: People are too paranoid. Trust me, there have been funnier theories about the eds. People tend to get touchy if you disagree with them on something. But I'm glad it entertains people, at least some have a sense of humour!

I think that the internet has opened some of our minds up in brilliant ways, but others are ill prepared for the minefield of misleading information that they can not decipher as truth or myth. . The agent fees, legal fees, helicopter rides, signing on fees, staff costs and bungs etc must have cost the clubs millions on top of the transfer fees themselves. It would be interesting to know how much it actually costs a club overall to sign a player, can somebody out their pull some records up from company house?

01 Feb 2011 01:57:22
Carroll EPL stats this season so far:

Games : 20
Starts : 19
subbed off : 1
GOALS : 11
ASSISTS : 7
Bookings : 4
Sent off : 0

Scored against : Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool & Arsenal to name a few. .
Home goals : 7
Away goals : 4
Hat-tricks : 1

Profile : 6'3 in height
Strong, reasonably quick, very good in the air (set piece defending and attacking), has good aggression, young and can hack it against 'big' clubs!

Luis Suarez is very quick, has excellent ball control, excellent finishing (bags of goals from pens, free kicks, left foot right foot, head, in & out of the box), very good work rate, technical (can play anywhere in an attacking role), a good dribbler and is a pain in the arse to mark!

These two have masses of potential and are both young and hungry. and they're styles should compliment each other very, very well!

Plus they have Kenny as coach!

Im over Torres now, like kenny said, players come and go. .rush, fowler, owen, torres. BUT WE ALWAYS MOVE ON AS A CLUB AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE!

YNWA

Drezperado

01 Feb 2011 01:55:41
Liverpool Rumours
Ok guys, so today could have gone worse.
suarez - 25million- beats defenders, scores magnificent goals, very determind attitude.
- - - IM FEELING GOOD- - - -

carroll - 35million- Will hold up the ball, bring attackers into play via head ons-flick ons etc. .
scores goals aswell, as we all know already.
will give 100% fight for his shirt.
- FEE WAS BIZZARE, BUT WE GOT 2 STRIKERS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE-

Team at start of next season (hoping)
P.
- - - - - - - - - - REINA- - - - - - - - - - - -
M. D. M. F.
KELLY- - -AGGER- - -SAKHO- - -COENTRAO

- - - - - - - - -CHARLIE ADAM- - - - - - - - -
S. R.
- - - - - - GERRARD- - - - MERELESS- - - - - -
G. L.
JOHNSON- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUAREZ
A.
- - - - - - - - - -CARROLL- - - - - - - - - -

This would be a fantastic team :-)

01 Feb 2011 01:54:04
Liverpool Rumours
Can Suarez and Carroll play in wednesdays game against Stoke?
Or is it more paperwork which needs to be done?

01 Feb 2011 01:53:11
Can't believe Carroll injured till end of next month. Could of done with him against Terry on Sunday.
Hope sueraz is as good as the hype. I think potentionally we now have a fear strikeforce which could be mouthwatering. I would of liked to see a new LB, CB, DCM, RWM and a LWM come but I reckon we will have a busy summer.
Mourinho has indicated his wish to be back in the EPL but high doubts over Liverpool being his destination.
Dalglish is probably the best man for the job anyway.
Shame to see Torres leave and worst of this drama was his dig at Liverpool.
We havnt really spent much considering Torres fee and babels.
I genuine believe next season we will challenge for the title.
We have the spine, the manager and owners all set for success.
Pity Adam's diddnt get the move he wanted but then hey, his contract runs out soon so I believe we could get him cheaper come summer.
Carroll reminds me a little of big Duncan Ferguson. 35mil is a little steep but they he maybe hugely successful

01 Feb 2011 01:52:45
Liverpool Rumours
Suarez signs a 5.5 yr deal and will wear the number 7 shirt!

01 Feb 2011 01:52:41
Liverpool Rumours
I believe that XABI ALONSO'S transfer is the worst transfer of all time. . and not fernando torres>>>>>

01 Feb 2011 01:52:32
Nando - that was a mistake. You will learn in time, but by then it'll be too late. I am massively disappointed in your lies, I wish you well in the champions league this year, I hope it is worth it for this one half season. If things go as planned for us though, you'll be chasing our shadows next year and wondering how you missed out.

Suarez and Carroll - ignoring the money aspect here - they're both goal hungry, young and could work well together. I am excited to see what happens when they play together properly in a few weeks. It'll be interesting to see how Suarez helps in terms of width at the front and how they play off eachother. I think this is the first time in a while that we've got a real physical presense up there and look forward to someone who can actually head a goal or two without giving away a goal or four (soto!)

Charlie Adam - I genuinely feel sorry for you, maybe the summer will be a possibility?

NESV - I continue to be impressed with you - keep it up, I anticipate a very interesting summer indeed. Ignore the doubters on here, you never promised anything in this window - and we were still poised to spend big, I genuinely believe Suarez and Torres would have worked - as it was not to be, we sold Torres at the right kind of price. Maybe Carroll was a bit pricey, but I'd prefer to judge that at this point next year. He was bought last minute, as the third top goal scorer in the EPL, as Newcastles top scorer, is young and is English - it was always going to be pricey, but they still did it.

KK - You've obviously had quite a hand in the carroll deal, but I think you may be the one smiling about this one in a few years. I hope and am genuinely excited to see this new strike force terrorise the defence of every other premier league team. Suarez/ Carroll's goal rate will undoubtedly be special if/ when they click.

Yes, wingers, yes another defender, but I am genuinely interested to see how this plays out. I am optimistic.

HodgsonOut

01 Feb 2011 01:52:10
Has anyone got any songs for Carroll and Suarez yet.

01 Feb 2011 01:52:06
With carroll now up front, surely johnson will have to play on the wing. he's our best crosser of the ball. would be an improvement on kuyt and then hopefully wilson or mavinga can be given turns at left back?

if this happens then I am kk's jedi padawan

numondo

btw. .nesv may have overpaid for carroll and hired a goose like comolli but bringing in the king to restore order was one of the most inspiring moves ever. .lifted everyone (except torres) and for that I'm thankful.

01 Feb 2011 01:49:47
Its one of those is it Eds, have you had the Harry Rednapp brown envelope off John boy? Ive sent three posts tonight sticking the boot in on the owners, with justification and reasoning but they havnt been posted. The last time I went down this route around two months ago, one of the Eds suggested I don't bother posting if im not happy. Have you a two edged sword ethos then, i.e. endorse capitalism but drop the iron curtain when it suits.

{Editor Note: More conspiracy theories. Put the dummy back in and grow up. We've had multiple posts having a pop at the owners and they have been posted. Make the effort to look for yours.}

+++++Gobalistiks note+++++: I have to say Ed that this is the banter that I enjoy most on this site, I remember this guy from the last time. Ha ha ha, brilliant stuff.Maybe you should start a new section called "mock the ed". You get some random cr@p thrown at you, but it is compelling to read your shots back.

{Editor Note: People are too paranoid. Trust me, there have been funnier theories about the eds. People tend to get touchy if you disagree with them on something. But I'm glad it entertains people, atleast some have a sense of humour!!}

01 Feb 2011 01:44:36
Liverpool Rumours
Hey Macca,

Cheers for all the info you've posted on here.

Any chance there is another signing in the works subject to a medical?

Or did we simply run out of time.

GB6644

P.s Hows the spuds bidding for Adam, do they realise DC works for us

01 Feb 2011 01:43:36
I am sure we payed over the odds for carroll but do you think KK had any other choice I am sure he did not , plus we really were left with no time and KK was not going to do the same mistake benitez did was leaving lfc with one striker again. So fair game and thankyou KK and Nesv I can honestly say we look a better team with suarez being like tevez and carroll cracking all defenses we are going to have a cracker season. ed what do you think?

hibsy lfc

{Editor Note: They have a lot to prove to us, so lets hope they can produce the goods.}

01 Feb 2011 01:42:43
Liverpool Rumours
Here's to the next transfer window
with the funds of £35 million for carroll
expect Liverpool To spend £135 million on messi

:P i joke

but a CB, LB, RW, LW, ST, And Maybe a CDM will be bought in the summer all of top quality

expect big players now the red revolution has begun !

YNWA

01 Feb 2011 01:32:20
Liverpool Rumours
You Eds on this site have no idea what so ever. All your in the know S**T comes from educated guesses sourced from the media and those of you who claim Liverpool ran out of time, they had bloody 31days to complete deals why wait till the last day and piss fart around with dodgy insulting offers? so stop your in the know B******T and all your pathetic excuses. As you said all it takes is a few hours to thrash out a deal and im sure there is more then one person who has negotiating skills to get a deal over the line.

go on i dare you to post it!

{Editor Note: LOL. You clearly know nothing. We don't claim to be in the know at all. Now get to bed, school tomorrow.}

01 Feb 2011 01:32:19
Please support the current team and do not forget the players we bought are young and as torres will be ageing and always injured our lads will be surging going forward. KK and nesv could not have done better we just see the result of everything, but I can assure you there were big and bold decisions to be taken and it was not easy and of course this is an ivestment and not cow muck as you said. When we bought torres for 20 million no one knew him even John terry head butted him remember we gave him his name and sold him for 50 million so he is not investing. I do agree wingers should have been bought but I do not believe for a minute that KK just sat around doing nothing about it. Just look at sly harry redknapp he could not sign anyone not even a cat , so please let us all pull in the same direction and that is support KK, the board and NESV. your thoughts please ed?

{Editor Note: Torres had to go. His attitude was rotten this season and instead of moaning about our situation he should have tried to help us get out of it. Good riddance I say.}

01 Feb 2011 01:32:17
{Editor Note: £35m was over double of his real valuation. He has a lot to prove now.}If he's given service i guarantee he will score quite a few. Luis Suarez will score loads too if the service is provided he adapts to EPL. Lack of English may be an initial problem.
Can't wait to see them both in action together now.
Exciting times could well be ahead.
I think in the summer we need to strengthen at centre back (1 established & 1 young top prospect), left back (established), young attacking central midfielder (Hazard would be perfect as he can play as a winger too), 2 wingers with pace & skill (one has to be top quality) & do everything in our power to fend off bids for Pepe cause they'll definitely come in the summer now his friend has left & he may be tempted.
So many need to be shipped out.
Gonna be a mad summer to ed.
Brace yerselves for some overtime :)
Irish Kev.

01 Feb 2011 01:28:26
Thank christ its all over, ive got pressure sores on my elbows and thumbs, ive been on here all day with talksport in the background, my wife even said you never talk to me i said i do i told you to feck off and leave me alone, so we now have a scary attack force, and we won't miss so many of the sitters like ngog and maxi has, carol and suarez know where the goal is, they are going to put the squits up many defenses, if they can't go round them they will go through them, seen some brill suarez goals tonight, hes as good as torres, goes through defenders as tho they wasn, t there, and hits them from halfway like alonso, happy days, jimmybosun

01 Feb 2011 01:22:51
Well wow what a transfer window. Torres gone but let's not forget the brillant job Kenny has done got the best fee. . Fick CheSkiZ. The Set of cretin. I really believe this move will be Torres downfall! All I hope is that we do Chelski this weekend!

01 Feb 2011 01:22:18
Liverpool Rumours
PLEASE POST! You keep ignoring me. Thanks eds!

I can't belive what fernando torres is saying:

"CHELSKI ARE A BIG CLUB" are they nando?
They got history have they?
We stuck by you when you were injured nearly half of every season - when you were not on form the last 18months.

That was because we believed in you and adored you.

I DONT THINK CHELSKI FANS WILL BE SO FORGIVING.
but don't worry, youll find that out soon enough.

HAIL KING KENNY YNWA! !

01 Feb 2011 01:15:30
Liverpool Rumours
Transfer window is over but a rumour had it that LLORENTE IF HE was to come to the prem would most likely come to liverpool hence the uninterest to join spurs and of couse it is jan

hibsy lfc

01 Feb 2011 01:15:18
Liverpool Rumours
Ok so our team has two new strikers. suarez and carrol. two young and attractive players. thank you torres. johnson is doing good at left back and i suspect he will make tha position his
our squad need two wingers and charlie adams in the summer
so i go for young
adam johnson
charlie adams
team for now should be

reina
kelly carragher agger johnson
maxi merieles gerrard cole
suarez carrol

after summer for 2011 to 2012 season
reina
kelly carragher johnson
meriles adams
young gerrard (adam johnson)
suarez carrol

01 Feb 2011 01:14:34
Would you have preferred that we didn't bring in another striker at all? We bought their best player half way through the season - what else do you expect but inflated prices? Stop and think about it guys - LIVERPRES

we bought suarez already. if we are playing two up front then we play kuyt or ngog or my choice, gerrard! I noticed a few posts saying that we have too many in midfield and that lucas and meireles work well together. seeing what gerrard did against a good team like napoli in limited time shows that he could do it.

we should have bought a winger instead and a forward in the summer. missing out on adam is disappointing but blackpool owner is a troublemaker.

numondo

01 Feb 2011 01:13:44
The one thing that I don't get about why we bought Carroll is that we've no wingers. Carroll loves to head the ball, and is very good at it, but who's going to swing in the balls for him?

-IamTheCosmos

To be fair, Newcastle don't really have wingers either.
Barton is a central midfielder playing out wide right for them. Can't even think who plays left wing for them.
On a different note, saw Torres' first Chelsea pictures & interviews earlier - now i promise i am not bitter as transfers happen in football all the time but i couldn't help feel he had a dig at us in the interview. Wonder what Gerrard thinks of him now?! Would love to know. Hope Luis gets off to a flyer against Chelsea on Sunday. Probably won't start against Stoke but will against Chelsea surely. Wouldn't it be sooo good if we beat Chelsea now & see Torres cranky girly face yet again, this time in a blue shirt. Wishful thinking eh? Oh, if there is any justice in the world i tell ya.
Irish Kev.

01 Feb 2011 01:10:15
Babel says on his twitter tonight thanx to the great fans and good luck to liverpool he didn't want to leave and he loved hearing ynwa being sung, we should have kept him, he loves the club,

01 Feb 2011 01:05:53
Liverpool Rumours
Blackpool have really taken the p**s out of us tonight!

They rejected both of our bids today, the second one being 10m i hear, Then at around 11:30 Harry Redknapp calls talksport and tells them live on air that Spurs missed out on Charlie Adams by 2minutes! !. . . When Sam Matterface asked him how much they bid for him, he said 6.5 - 7m and it was accepted by Blackpool but they couldnt get the paperwork signed in time! . .Their chairman is really taking the Piss out of us and Adams career! . .

Surely this is a "rumour"?

SI

01 Feb 2011 01:05:17
Babels departure Looks more worrying then Torres's, the only "winger" to have real pace and run at defenders. .

the thought of having to put up with kuyt and maxi for another 5 months is killing me. .

N zogbia, Jarvis, Young, I'd have even settled for SWP on loan, someone who can actually beat a man and get to the line. . .

Looking forward to hearing the Eds opinions on the business conducted over the coming days. . .

Have NESV pulled off shrewd business or pulled one over our eyes?

what's the opinions of Comolli, looks a poor DOF, tries to bargain, waits very late, then offers what club is asking for,

Who will be the new CEO. .

All to be discussed in coming days surely. .

Fair play for keeping the site updated reguraly throughout the hectic deadline day. . . . .

01 Feb 2011 01:03:58
And then he proved he's not a red Torres, Torres im off to Stamford Bridge he said, Torres, Torres, he kissed the badge upon his chest, handed in his transfer request, Fernando Torres told us a pack of lies!

jay b

01 Feb 2011 01:03:57
Last but not least thankyou to all the eds you did superbly keeping up with all us depressed fans, get ready now for the summer transfer window. Do you think we will spend big?

hibsy lfc

{Editor Note: NESV are willing to invest. We'll hopefully get some top players. People need to remember that you don't have to spend £40m to get a top player.}

01 Feb 2011 01:03:51
Liverpool Rumours
Ed do you actually think andy carroll is worth 35 million? i think we paid 15m too much

{Editor Note: Definatly not mate.}

01 Feb 2011 01:02:22
Liverpool Rumours
Hi guys, what an ending to the transfer market! We've made some good signings for defo, but i'm still not entirely convinced that 35mil is what we should be paying for carroll. I'm still pretty gutted that Torres has left the club but i hope he do us a favour and stop manure winning that 19th league title! It's a shame that the Carroll transfer went on for so long as I'm pretty sure that we could of got another player or 2 in. Here's something for you guys to think about. NESV have only spent roughly 8 million out of their pockets, as the 50 mil generated from torres allowed king kenny to splash out crazy money. Now, if Torres had stayed do you guys think NESV would give the the same amount of funds to splash that sort of money around on other players? It remains to be seen. When the summer transfer market opens again, that's when i reckon we should judge them and show us that they mean business.
Looking forward to the 2nd half of the season as this would give the 2 new strikers to know each others game and hopefully become the most lethal strikeforce in the prem for next season.
Oh and by the way. .i wana say a big HA! in your face tottenham thinking that you can get Charlie LOL! Who the hell do they think they are bidding for all these names that we're linked with. Trying to hard to make a name for themselves.

ps. to the eds, what your thoughts on NESV atm. I like the way they handle their business behind closed doors. You think they could put major investment this coming summer after what we've seen tonight mate.

Dirty Ryder

{Editor Note: NESV had given the all clear for KK and Comolli to persue players before Torres handed in his request. Suarez was one of them and others included the likes of Ashley Young, and we were willing to pay £20m for Micah Richards. It's clear they intended on investing in the squad. And people forget that NESV are also going to be paying their wages for 5 and a half years. Carroll is on a reported £80,000 per week which works out at a further £23m.}

01 Feb 2011 01:02:03
Just caught the Torres quip about he's now joined a bigger club.
maybe he's got a point . . when he put his transfer request on friday he may have been encouraged by seeing no movement apart from us still fannying about offering a pitance for Adam and Suarez, much to the frustration of many supporters at the time.

His transfer request seemed to trigger the doubling of the Saurez offer and paying an obscene amount of money on Carroll, with comolli ensuring I guess we didn't pay over the odds . . 35m unbelievable

I suppose in real terms we spent a couple of million net and took a hell of a gamble and still without wide players or an 'Alonso' type midfielder.

Chelski spent over well over eighty million in real terms without losing a world class player . infact gaining two . maybe that's what he meant.

Totally underwhelmed for the second transfer window running and just hoping it works . starting on Wednesday followed by another matchwinning performance at the weekend.

01 Feb 2011 01:01:17
Liverpool Rumours
I can go to bed tonighjt for the first time in a while and say I'm pround to be a liverpool supporter . I don't give a s**t about torres he does deserve my time . Suarez and carroll want to play for the bade that's all I care . I may be drunk but I know I love suarez and carroll more than I ever loved torres . Remember the badge at the front of the shirt is bigger than any name at the back of the shirt . Ynwa

Welshred

01 Feb 2011 00:59:35
Heads up everyone I know torres has gone but wait in the summer when we get LLorente or aguero who are better players than him we''ll see whos laughing then? ed your input please thankyou

hibsy lfc

{Editor Note: If Carroll and Suarez perform we won't really need another striker, apart from perhaps a backup striker. You have to remember what we paid for both of them, and it certainly suggests they aren't seen as short-term options.}

01 Feb 2011 00:59:24
I think the fact that Torres wanted to leave few days before the window closed, disrupted us from going to our other targets. I am not disappointed with the fact that we didn't sign Charlie Adam. It would have been fantastic but it wasn't a necessity. however, i am very disappointed with the fact that we didn't sign a left back. Johnson had a couple of good games there, i can't see him being consistent there. besides now that we have Andy Carol we need more width than ever. he is a kind of player who is more effective getting balls from the width than the center.
As far Torres is concerned, yes it is a big loss. but we don't need a superstar who is not motivated to play. In suarez and caroll together we have a much better striking force than Torres alone. Together, they will give us more airial treat, both fighters, more strength and power. the only thing that may be missing is that little bit of quality finish touch. but even for that, suarez will prove to be vital. we may not see beautiful goals like Torres' but we will see tones of goals anyway.
i hope we continue from what we have left of in summer and strengthen our left back, defending midfield, center back and wings.

miccmak

01 Feb 2011 00:59:05
Liverpool Rumours
I think its a disgrace the way some of the reaction with the torres transfer, can hardly blame the lad wanting to win more trophies were in a rebuilding progress will take us about 5 years to get to the top, he deserves champions league football, and bar this season his service for the club has been fantastic. don't get me wrong i am gutted that he has gone but no1 is bigger than liverpool fc!

YNWA!

01 Feb 2011 00:51:50
Liverpool Rumours
Please post Ed:
can we loan Adam with agreement to buy for 10-12 million? Is such a thing as in loaning a player despite window being closed?

01 Feb 2011 00:50:44
I seen the Torres interview and I'm heart broken to hear what he had to say , he is now playing for a big club. I and probably all Liverpool fans would say that we are bigger club than Chelsea. To the fans that burned his top, you need to wise up. We will all miss you Torres. Good luck. Also andy the thug Carroll, not a bad player, but holy f*** 36 million, that's about 20 to much. I think suarez will be a great signing. YNWA. Joelfc1893

01 Feb 2011 00:47:54
Liverpool Rumours
So, team for stoke will be:

- - - - - - - -reina- - - - - - - -
kelly- - -skrtel- - -agger- - -johnson
- - - - meireles- - - lucas- - - -
- - - - - - - gerrard- - - - - - -
kuyt- - - - - carroll- - - - -suarez

I am considered about the service caroll will get. its a shame we didn't get someone like young/ payet/ elia/ turan

01 Feb 2011 00:47:36
How are ye all. .
Well the window is shut. I just got back rom the pub (I went there because I had heard on ssn that Damien Comolli left Melwood and figured nothing else was goning to happen) and switched on ssn. I just saw then Chelsea Tv interview with Torres. When all the crap was going on over the last day I was thinking, "right, hes going to chelsea so let him go, Liverpool will be all the better for it". And that has not changed now that hes gone. I still think we will be better without him; a player that did not have his heart in it anymore. But when I saw that snippet of the Chelsea Tv interview I felt absolutely gutted. Questions raced through my head along the lines of, 'why is he going there?' etc etc. Its a weird feeling but I just wanted to express somehow seeing as its just me and my girlfriend here and she has no interest. Venting I guess.
Great work today Eds, even in complete chaos, like today, you give us dedicated and unrivaled coverage. As long as this site is up I'll be logging on.
First time long-poster, sorry guys
LfordRed

01 Feb 2011 00:47:35
Hey Ed's, Can't believe some people are not happy with Carroll. He's one of the best header of a ball i've seen for ages, he's got a sweet left foot and is as strong as an ox, i agree £35mill was a bit steep but, he's only young and if he comes on like he is, he will be unbelievable. What do you think ed?

Sooty

{Editor Note: £35m was over double of his real valuation. He has a lot to prove now.}

01 Feb 2011 00:47:30
Liverpool Rumours
All the NESV haters need to grow up. Atleast we spent the money that we brought in, which is good as it shows we are self sufficient. And get off the editors backs its not their fault we didn't get more players.

And i think a big well done should be given to all the editors especially over the last month its been hectic.

DanLFC

01 Feb 2011 00:47:16
Its one of those is it Eds, have you had the Harry Rednapp brown envelope off John boy? Ive sent three posts tonight sticking the boot in on the owners, with justification and reasoning but they havnt been posted. The last time I went down this route around two months ago, one of the Eds suggested I don't bother posting if im not happy. Have you a two edged sword ethos then, i.e. endorse capitalism but drop the iron curtain when it suits.

{Editor Note: More conspiracy theories. Put the dummy back in and grow up. We've had multiple posts having a pop at the owners and they have been posted. Make the effort to look for yours.}

01 Feb 2011 00:46:59
Liverpool Rumours
Glad to see owners stand by their word, although getting 50M for Torres did give them the chance to spend big (Not a criticism, though) I heard Adam was being driven from Blackpool and loved it. Could've been the finishing touch. He could've been the buy of the transfer window, funnily enough.
Ed, do you think we'll get him in summer?

{Editor Note: If Dalglish is manager we'll probably go for him. But I'd prefer Javi Martinez or Ever Banega - Banega would cost around the same as Adam.}

01 Feb 2011 00:44:45
Some of the criticism of NESV on here is beyond belief. Does anyone seriously believe if the previous owners had still been here LFC would have spent £50M+ on players in January? Indeed, had H&G still been around, it would've been an exodus this month. NESV kept to their word, and I've no doubt there's more to come in the summer. We've signed two players who, although flawed, have masses of potential. The Liverpool squad is stronger now than it was at the start of the season, and things are looking up. Anyone who wants to talk down the owners should remember where LFC were in the summer.

01 Feb 2011 00:43:49
Fully agree with comments about NESV. they have done a superb job in appointing Kenny, making funds available and encouraging Kenny to go after what he thinks is best for Liverpool. This is a massive vote of confidence by the owners in KK ability to spot real talent.

Because of the last minute hitch of Torres, our other potential signings could not be done as the club would have liked, however in one respect maybe this is a good thing. We have two brilliant front men now, we can get new players in the next window, as Im sure KK will be planning. . . .Turan etc.

Now is the time to rejoice and support everyone at the club who are trying their best to put the mighty reds back where they belong.

Have patience. .remember Kenny is a Jedi Knight!

Scout

01 Feb 2011 00:43:22
Don't get me wrong, I think carroll is a good player and I will support him as a red no end but it is a crazy high price. I think it was a panic transfer because of torres
*************************************

Would you have preferred that we didn't bring in another striker at all? We bought their best player half way through the season - what else do you expect but inflated prices? Stop and think about it guys - LIVERPRES

01 Feb 2011 00:40:52
I see sneaky harry redknapp was at it again trying to nab adams from under our noses wht is it with this dell boy who ever we go after you can bet harry goes for them f*** off lucky harry:) anyone agrree, torres discusts me i just burnt his jersey a treater a mercenery fact why didn't we sign a winger this still baffles me:)

01 Feb 2011 00:37:24
For those posting that nesv are a joke ect, get a life obviously the most of these posters havent a clue about football or how a club operates. . . . changing practically the whole team mid season would have been a disaster waiting to happen. . . in my opinion nesv have shown real intent in forking out 35million for a pretty unproven youngster! summer will show that nesv mean business hoping kenny will get the job cause i think he's shown with the signings and recent displays he knows how this club should really operate. . . finally i'd like to wish fernando all the best in his future career and to those who burned his shirt shame on you. . . thamks for the memories "el nino"

Watch his interview on Chelsea TV then wish him luck, the T**t.

Sooty

01 Feb 2011 00:37:18
Please all liverpool fans stop giving nesv a hard time we were not sat in the rooms with KK and we do not know how hard it was to do the deals. No one wants to do business in January simple as.KK and everybody I am sure did all they can we should support them and thank them and we can't forsee the future what if carroll takes us to fourth, KK is experienced remember. Let us welcome our signings and thank everyone for their efforts. We are on the up definitely we have been through the bad it can only get better.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Ok mate if Commolli running round Europe trying to pick pocket on the cheap is doing everything they can then so be it. Wake up and smell the cow muck, no investment whatsoever and there won't be unless we sell. With the exception of Gerrardand Reina theres no real family jewel so lets just hope something comes through the academy eh.

{Editor Note: People are getting more stupid on here.}

01 Feb 2011 00:37:16
Ed, is it possible that liverpool could still get warnock in on loan? Heard it mentioned on bbc sport after the window shut.

Stu.

{Editor Note: If the required paperwork was handed in before the deadline.}

01 Feb 2011 00:36:48
Liverpool Rumours
Just wonder ed, great site bye the way with the money spent on carroll and suarez in for a combined fee of 57.6 million approx and with the money genarated bye the sales of the judas and babel the new owners havent really spent much money, where was the much required width the team is screaming out for, how do we get crosses into the box for the big man to score, it doesn't add up, a don't feel we have sorted out any problems that were evident in the rafa era. can and will there still be a suprise signing made bye the morning. Or will major signing be made now in the summer. Thought money paid was a bit on the dear side for andy what your views, a didn't think KK and DC would rush into buying someone for that amount of money.

{Editor Note: I think we'll make good signings in the Summer. John W.Henry is willing to invest. Plus, we made moves for players before Torres handed in his request - like Suarez. But the owners deserve credit for re-investing the money into the club rather than perhaps only giving a percentage of it for transfers. And we were also bidding for Richards at around £20m, and Young who would certainly have cost atleast £15m.}

01 Feb 2011 00:35:09
For me, as a sequence of business transactions, I would say that is a brilliant result.

Well done all involved.

Frenchy.

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Is that you John. I can see that it may have been a good days business for you i.e not spending a penny but I don't see the correlation with a brilliant result for the fans!
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We were trying to buy Suarez weeks before Torres handed in a transfer request (which was rejected) and we actually tried to keep Torres. So were was the money coming from for Suarez?

The major point here is we invested the Torres money back into the squad. So if we were buying Suarez anyway then there will be money left out of the Torres deal. Which you can pretty much guarantee that NESV will spend that too in the summer, after todays actions.

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. Suarez was getting bought to play alongside Torres not to replace him. . . .

01 Feb 2011 00:34:50
Suarez and Carrol essentially cost us what we got for Babel and Torres. Call me crazy but Id rather have Suarez and Carroll than Babel and Torres. Then consider we essentially spent no money this window and we should be able to spend big in the summer. What do people think the formation will be once the 2 new strikers are here and settled. I hope its:

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Kelly- -Skrtel- -Agger- -Johnson
- - - - - -Poulsen- - - - - - -
- - - Meireles- -Gerrard- - - -
- -Suarez- - - - - -Kuyt- - -
- - - - - Carroll- - - - - - -

Play Suarez on whichever side he prefers to play and give him lots of freedom to move centrally. Then in summer we can target one more attacker, a defensive midfielder and a defender. Which considering we spent no money this window should be doable.

I think things are looking up. We shouldn't be so dependent on 2 players any more like we had been for so long. With the emergence of Meireles since Kenny took over and 2 quality strikers to go along with Gerrard we won't rely on just a couple guys. A couple more smart signings in the summer and we can be right in the mix nest season!

01 Feb 2011 00:34:50
Can't believe some of the plantpots on this site about our owners go back to the players we lost under the other two carpet baggers and who we brought in? Mate if that would of been them with Norman Wisdom in charge we would of sold Torres and got Carlton Cole probably On the strap , we have made a statement today that Liverpool Football Club is back Carroll and Suarez I'd have that anyday than a sulkin and lazy traitor who had not put a decent shift in til Kenny came back , oh except Chelsea , wonder why? ? , So I say congratulate an thank the owners cos LFC are back! , bless ya loads

01 Feb 2011 00:34:33
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Really shouldnt have looked but i couldnt resist a peep on chelsea's website. .seeing Torres made me feel sick to the stomach :( he wasnt just a great player, but i really felt he was part of the fabric at LFC, im still in shock! not sure whether we were betrayed or it was only fair as he served us so well with no trophys for his efforts.?!
On a good note, i can see the attributes of Luis and Andy really working for us! think NESV deserve a lot of credit for spending, if these two can gell in the next 6 months then we get get two quality wingers that tho how to get the ball to the forwards as well as stevie and raul in the mix we could be a force to be reckoned with once again!

Drezperado

01 Feb 2011 00:34:23
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Hey Ed, i'm Gutted about Torres to Chelsea, just realised how much i loved him as a player. Let's hope we beat Chelsea on sunday. Will suarez and carroll start against chelsea, or are they carrying an injury. Thanks.

CraigLFC

01 Feb 2011 00:34:09
Alot of you are complaining that we paid too much for Suarez and in particular Carroll. The problem that LFC had is that we had to pay these amounts in order for the current team to allow them to leave half way through a season - especially as both players are so important to their teams' success (and possibly survival in Newcastle's case).

I understand some people saying that we could have got other world class strikers for the same money that we paid for Carroll. That may be true, but those players must want to come and play for LFC, and/ or be available to leave.

Both players are young and have signed long-term contracts (for what that's worth these days) and will be hungry to succeed at LFC. I think that is priceless and can only be a good thing for LFC.

I think the failure to secure wingers is not sitting well with fans, and I can relate to that. But some new blood has been brought in to the team - new life, and two forwards that want to play for LFC are way better than one who doesn't.We are in a better position that we were 3 days ago in my opinion.

One final note - you must feel gutted ed - suarez and Carroll - neither of which you are a fan of, and no Honda or Adam - feel sorry for you mate. Great job today eds - LIVERPRES

01 Feb 2011 00:33:42
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Arda Turan's agent gave the possibility of "Summer" availablility.

Just Sayin.

Christ just 67mins after the window closes and the summer transfer rumours have started, God i love this site. How long will Carroll be out for Ed. .

Sooty

{Editor Note: I heard he trained with Newcastle recently? Not sure though.}

01 Feb 2011 00:32:23
What a little brat Torres has demonstrated himself to be. We all gave him every excuse under the sun when he wasn't stepping up to the plate but deep down he just wasn't interested as he was cooking up his move to the west end. I hope Skirtle kicks him off the park on sunday.

01 Feb 2011 00:30:42
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When wil caroll be available to play and is torres allowed to play agaisnt us sunday

01 Feb 2011 00:30:22
The t**t was speaking on Chelsea TV, u'd think his time at Liverpool never happened. He never loved this club just used us as a stepping stone.

Sooty

01 Feb 2011 00:30:08
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By God give the Eds some rest, will ya?- - - What a day?!

01 Feb 2011 00:28:45
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We could still get adam overnight, they can put it down as a loan intially with an option to buy in summer,

01 Feb 2011 00:25:44
Let us hope the b*****d torres gets injured and is out for months as he always was here. He said he is happy to be playing at the top level again f**** T*** ungrateful we gave you your name at leastall pundits disrespect you even harry redknapp said he would not buy you on SSN

hibsy lfc

01 Feb 2011 00:24:04
The one thing that I don't get about why we bought Carroll is that we've no wingers. Carroll loves to head the ball, and is very good at it, but who's going to swing in the balls for him?

-IamTheCosmos

01 Feb 2011 00:23:40
6.5 million spurs bid for for Adam and it was accepted, what the hell did we bid

01 Feb 2011 00:22:19
Please all liverpool fans stop giving nesv a hard time we were not sat in the rooms with KK and we do not know how hard it was to do the deals. No one wants to do business in January simple as.KK and everybody I am sure did all they can we should support them and thank them and we can't forsee the future what if carroll takes us to fourth, KK is experienced remember. Let us welcome our signings and thank everyone for their efforts. We are on the up definitely we have been through the bad it can only get better.

hibsy lfc

01 Feb 2011 00:22:06
For those posting that nesv are a joke ect, get a life obviously the most of these posters havent a clue about football or how a club operates. . . . changing practically the whole team mid season would have been a disaster waiting to happen. . . in my opinion nesv have shown real intent in forking out 35million for a pretty unproven youngster! summer will show that nesv mean business hoping kenny will get the job cause i think he's shown with the signings and recent displays he knows how this club should really operate. . . finally i'd like to wish fernando all the best in his future career and to those who burned his shirt shame on you. . . thamks for the memories "el nino"

01 Feb 2011 00:20:56
Confirmed what i posted about a hour ago that Harry Rednapp had made a last minute bid for Adam.
He confirms the bid was accepted but certain stakeholders in Blackpool didn't sign the necessary paperwork in time.

Would of been intresting to find out what they accepted for a fee and even more to find out if Aadm fancied it.

£6.5-7m . Heard it myself on Talksport cannot believe that we would, nt pay that.

{Editor Note: It was more than £6-7m Blackpool wanted. Perhaps double that.}

01 Feb 2011 00:20:38
WELL DONE ED'S HECTIC DAY THX FOR KEEPING US INFORMED!

MEALS

01 Feb 2011 00:18:45
RUBBISH TO UR "NET SPEND" WAT A LOAD OF CRAP! ! THEY COULD OF GONE FOR ELMANDER OR SOMEONE MID PRICED. THEYVE JUST SPENT 35 MILLION ON CARROLL, ARE U DUMB. THEY DIDNT NEED TO DO THAT AT ALL. NEVER BLEEDING HAPPY! TORRES IS GONE! GET OVER IT. SOME OF U "FANS" ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS BLONDIE F***ED OFF.

01 Feb 2011 00:16:16
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ha hah unlucky harry got none of his transfer targets and we got carroll when they bid for him 1st lol they are going out of champions league and not in top 4. roll on summer 2 wingers, cb, lb, cdm and we will be up there

01 Feb 2011 00:15:04
Traitor has just said hes always wanted to play for a top team and now he is, what a tosser hope someone sorts him on sunday

01 Feb 2011 00:14:52
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Any late deals left ed i just don't get it we had a month to do deals i can't believe it very angry and concerned

Feb 2011 00:14:26
Some of the fools on this site whinging about NESV's net spend, there are significant costs involved in a transfer not just the fee itself. Plus they said all along that it is too difficult to sign people in January, were lucky that we signed two good players. .

Feb 2011 00:14:05
Very disappointed to lose Torres, but we've got two good strikers now and we broke even in the transfer window with the extra bit of money from Babel. Hopefully that means there's a lot more to be spent in the summer. £50million from the owners & an overhaul of a lot of players should get us righ back up there next season.

Thanks for the goals Torres, now we'll start winning the trophies.

-IamTheCosmos

Feb 2011 00:13:51
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So, Commolli travels Europe for months and in the end he goes for Andy Carroll, Luis Suarez and fails at getting Charlie Adam? How much quid does this guy make? I could have done the same job with a computer and a phone. I am absolutely gutted. Forget Torres, he's been replaced with Suarez alone. But Carroll was a dumb, panic move. We needed width and speed and for all the money spent, we got none of that. A left winger with some speed and good delivery was a must. This is unacceptable.

Gutted Fan

Feb 2011 00:13:00
It's really starting to p*** me off all the NESV bashing on the Banter page.
Just grow up if there was an other player out there that they could have got for the money they where willing to spend they would of spent it.
We all seem to forget we are a massive club still, BUT a club that can't offer Champ league.
And as Torres the Traitor proves most foreign player crave CL.
So let just get behind the club now until May and see if KK can get the team playing football again.

Markolfc
ynwa

Feb 2011 00:12:18
Imagine what old whiskey nose will be thinking tonight?

not thinking but laughing his a*** off! manure spends 6m on a fantastic player like hernandez who doesn't even play every game and we break our transfer record for a player who is unproven. I hate old scum as much as any reds fan but he won't lose any sleep over this. remember we've lost torres.

I never ever want to see a fellow reds fan on this site bagging chelski or mancity for overpricing the transfer market. what we did today paying 35m for carroll absolutely destroyed the transfer market. case in point, if carroll is worth 35m then I don't see how hazard or gervinho or sanchez or cavani could not be valued by their clubs at 40-50m each!

don't get me wrong, I think carroll is a good player and I will support him as a red no end but it is a crazy high price. I think it was a panic transfer because of torres.

and while I'm ranting, comolli is a terrible scout/ negotiator. if I knew that I could be that bad and be able to work for the mighty reds then I would have chosen his occupation.

great site, Eds

Feb 2011 00:11:05
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Your supose to be editors, your just a f***ing joke promising minimum of 3 signings. we had one injured person and one foreigner. And you blame it on Andy Carroll. Get you facts right, your like SSN.

{Editor Note: Like you said, we're supposed to be editors. We edit this website so we fulfil our duties. Perhaps you should look up the word "editor" in a dictionary. And we just heard that there would be more in - and we did infact make bids for other players which failed. So perhaps you should get your facts right.}

Feb 2011 00:10:57
FFS stop whining you miserable pessimists. . you should hear yourselves. At least we came out of this with excellent possibilities and got shot of a miserable sulk who couldn't be assed to help make us great again. Can't wait to see Carra's first tackle on Sunday. We've got young players coming through and two attacking full backs who can both cross a ball. NESV did good business today after Sulk left us in the mire. Stop moaning IN KENNY WE TRUST.
Newtydreads

Feb 2011 00:10:53
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Expect one more signing.
I know you will all have a go but remember i said this.
As KK has said, when there is something to say, it will be said.

There have been other negotiations going on.

Keep an eye on the news tomorrow.

Soulmiester

Feb 2011 00:10:40
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Quote from torres on chelsea tv ( every player wants to play for the top clubs in the world and i can NOW do that) any legacy he had at liverpool should be firmly gone with that one sentence out of his mouth. . lets see the chelsea fans stick with u nd sing nd shout ur name when u decide to have one of ur famous sulks. . hope kelly does him next sunday

Feb 2011 00:10:01
Im not sure which ed it was but can you please explain how 1st one ed was so sure adam deal was agreed (done deal) also as informed by one of the eds we were expecting at least another , possibly two more deals possible winger(young , nzogbia, hazzard , turan ) being mentioned. I appreciate you cannot name your contacts but some info on who we placed legitimate bids with would be appreciated. Also how do you think the new strike force will settle in , predictions for sunday reds vs Chelsea and possible summer dealings keep up the great work boys
red all over

{Editor Note: Adam would be here if it wasn't for Oyston. It looked a certainty. And the other player we were in for was Ashley Young I gather. And I hope they settle in well obviously.}

Feb 2011 00:09:29
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Ed's personally it will be quite bizarre if we hav nt dun a deal fr a winger becoss carrol feeds of wingers personally think the king will make suarez n carroll bigger than torres do u tink we've signed anyonee plzz. Plz comment wud luv to no wt u think nabs

{Editor Note: I think that's us finished this window. The Summer window is the big one if you ask me.}

01 Feb 2011 00:05:12
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I think we at liverpool with our big heart should wish torres goodluck and thank him for the great moment he gave us. . . Ynwa lfc

01 Feb 2011 00:04:35
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Charlie Adam was almost signed by Tottenham after Liverpool deal collapsed, they've missed out on Adam by 2 minutes said Redknapp, apparently they have offered more than Liverpool in terms of transfer fee.

01 Feb 2011 00:04:23
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Wow had ssn on all day and to be honest glad it's over. Just want to say thanks to the owners. Not missing sulky one bit thanks to the signings of suarez and carroll. We are once again heading in the right direction and one day that title will be ours. Suarez and Carroll signings show that we can still attract big names and we'll be a force sooner rather than later. Torres interview on Chels tv i'd love to wipe that smug smile of his face come on LFC let's show him what we're made of!

01 Feb 2011 00:03:52
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Torres has said he is so happy to have joined chelsea, and basically said he is joining a bigger club than liverpool, im sure us liverpool fans cannot give him a good reception when we play chelsea after the way he forced this move to happen, and in my eyes must be seen as a traitor, liverpool are on the up and i think a win at chelsea will show the money grabber that he has joined a club in decline and left a club who are going to once again be the greatest force in english football under king kenny

By the way great work liverpool by getting a great homegrown replacement albeit at an inflated price

01 Feb 2011 00:03:45
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Ed I would like to thank all of you for the effort that you all put in through the window. Great to see that you all were able to keep up with all of the crazyness of deadline day (and some of the posters)
Thanks
NI Red

01 Feb 2011 00:02:32
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Ian dowie just said on ssn that usually medicals can take place afterwards so aslong as we sign players subject to a medical.if adam a no go then it must be either
young
n'zogbia
hazard
honda
turan
gervinho
we can't end tonight without at least 1 of these

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Dude the window is closed, no more purchases. Loans maybe !

Coopcrow

01 Feb 2011 00:02:25
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Hi ed it's big al I told u torres can go and babel with the rest of the deadwood but I neva mentioned carra or stevie and u replied with a cheap laugh to amuse your fickle band of followers who don't have a clue about the game.Liverpool are on the Warpath I see it you don't lad Ed you need another job kid ynwa big al

{Editor Note: Amazing some of the theories people come up with. Is it any wonder the other ed laughed?}

01 Feb 2011 00:01:57
Come on guys give kk and nesv a break, who would you rather have up front, torres and ngog or carol and suarez, have looked at the vids of suarez and he looks as good if not better than torres, he can go around defenders as tho they wernt there and even tries a axbi from inside his own half, hes got the lot, imagine those two against the mancs, vidic and rio will brick themselves, and stevie and cara won't bully them, its looking good, jimmybosun

01 Feb 2011 00:01:31
For me, as a sequence of business transactions, I would say that is a brilliant result.

Well done all involved.

Frenchy.

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Is that you John. I can see that it may have been a good days business for you i.e not spending a penny but I don't see the correlation with a brilliant result for the fans!

01 Feb 2011 00:01:14
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We realise this is not how it works, but here are a few players who have moved in the last few years for less than Andy Carroll: David Villa, Didier Drogba, Andriy Shevchenko, Wayne Rooney, Michael Essien, Sergio Aguero, Thierry Henry (in fact, we reckon Carroll's fee is more than Henry's cumulative fees throughout his whole career), Ruud van Nistelrooy, Mesut Ozil, Arjen Robben, Wesley Sneijder, Franck Ribery, Alex Pato, Carlos Tevez, Xabi Alonso, and of course Fernando Torres, the first time round.

got this of 365 football, the big point they missed on there is alonso was 10million at 24/ 5 sold for 30 million at 30, torres 20millon 23 sold 50mllion 26. so if carroll can be as good as i think he can be in 3 years 70 million if sell on. nearly all the players above would now move 4 less if re-sold (im not saying all so don't bit me) lol.

i think we have signed the new dogba.

01 Feb 2011 00:00:42
TORRES ON CHELSEA: "It's every footballer's dream to play for a big club and I can finally do that now"

01 Feb 2011 00:00:27
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The gloss as gone off this January transfer's because once again we have bought a player who can't play because he's injured, Newcastle have seen us coming, just like Chelsea, did you see torres gloating like a pig he is!

31 Jan 2011 23:58:23
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Ed earlier this month i had an argument with you over carroll and how i said you where disrespecful and i apolige but now we have signed him how do you feel?

31 Jan 2011 23:58:15
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Why oh why does Harry Redknapp always have to go after other clubs' targets? He should have his own bl**dy scouting team.

First it was Carroll, then it was Adam. As soon as it becomes public knowledge, Harry doesn't waste any time getting the brown A4 envelopes ready.

Why can't he leave our f*****g targets alone?!