Liverpool Banter Archive November 01 2014

 

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01 Nov 2014 22:59:45
Helo eds, is it possible mate that the owners
want to speak to gerrard over his contract because there could be a different offer on the table to him, like managing maybe with carra involved? Little whisper I've heard as the owners are not happy with Rodgers ego?

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{Ed002's Note - Zero chance. They are far from being complete idiots.}

Certainly worked when Shearer took over at Newcastle. oh wait.

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01 Nov 2014 22:18:07
Biesla or Klopp are the only ones we may be able to get that would be an upgrade, we do have to ask ourselves whether we'd be able to get them though? I know Biesla isn't happy at Marseille, but I'm not sure about Klopp.

Absolutely disgraceful performance from all of the team bar Mignolet, ironically.

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{Ed002's Note - Neither will be moving to Liverpool midseason.}

De Boer is a winner too, with success at every level as a player.

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Jeorje Jesus of Benfica anyone?

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Jesus of Nazareth anyone?

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De Boer is the best option out there. Klopp will have offers from some of the elite clubs which LFC certainly are not at the moment, Bielsa and FSG simply will not get along i'm sure of that.

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01 Nov 2014 21:52:39
Ed's 001. Do you think there's any chance Klopp would leave Dortmund and come to us mid-season? Am I right in thinking he doesn't break contracts? Also do you think he's waiting for City or Arsenal to come in for him? This is just a hunch but I think this season is Wengers and Pelligrinis swansong . Klopp and Dortmund are bottom 3 in the Bundesliga and this would be the ideal time to steal a march on our rivals and grab him. Your thought's would be appreciated pal.

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{Ed002's Note - He is not around. There is no chance.}

01 Nov 2014 19:10:20
We have a very good squad and first team when fit. Yes Rodgers should have bought 3 top players( one being a worldclass GK) but the problem is Rodgers not the quailty atm. It may look as if the players are "average" but.most are far from it. Our midfielders and forwards have a hell of a lot of quailty. Coutinho, sterling, sturridge, lallana, can, Henderson. Moreno and flannagan will develop into top class full backs. But we Need a defensive coach in. That should be a big priority whether Rodgers gets sacked or not. And secondly someone ask where are the young stars in this team? Why are they loaned out and not getting game time? Bring ibe, texeira back into the squad maybe lori. Give suso a.chance in the team, McLaughlin a chance. Then at the end.of the season let gerrard leave( if not involved somehow) Johnson, skrtl and toure( who will leave) go to make room for the youth. There is huge quailty and.potential in that squad. The only player that should be.purchased is a goalie, a top drawer one and work with that squad. Markovic needs a season to really settle and origi will be arriving. Ballo? Let the new manager decide. My preference would be klopp

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Couldn't agree more with you big al

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Why only a defensive coach why not offensive one either? as much as we are poor defensively we are worse going forward. in 3 of our last four games we didn't score and didn't look like scoring. We have some decent players in the squad, yes but if you compare them with what chelsea. City , Arsenal and manU have we are a lacking a bit. In any case BR has done what he can. Time for change.

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Big Al is on the money. It is some of these same players that smashed teams last year all the way to almost winning the league. This year, they are now looking like shadows of their former selves. It`s either they lack confidence, in poor form and/or they have been shackled by the tactics BR is using. IMO, it is a bit of everything. The worse for me is that based on todays lifeless performance where only Balo and Migs get a passing grade, those problems don`t look to be going away any time soon. That is my biggest worry and I`m afraid BR might not survive this. As for a new manager, I really don`t know.

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01 Nov 2014 21:54:11
If I had a choice I would keep Brendan if possible but under the guidance of a dof my preference being jupp heynckes who may be talked out of retirement.

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{Ed002's Note - Never going to happen.}

Johnson should start ONLY if injuries make it impossible to leave him out.
Gerrard should never leave the bench inside the 70 minutes marker.
Balotelli. . fill in the blanks

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01 Nov 2014 18:42:15
Hi ed 1 if your about do you think if we loose the next few games the manager position will be reviewed by the owners i know they are ruthless but who would replace rogers if he were to leave especially since we won't be looking to spend wildly again i know we have great youth players so maybe they would get a try if brendo were to go

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}

Ed, it would be very difficult to find a manager mid season. do you think KK would take over for the rest of the year and then start a manager search?

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{Ed001's Note - that would not be a good idea, has he not suffered enough at the hands of the 'fans'?}

Maybe try Stevie and Carra 😉

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Surely ed, Brendan has to swallow his pride and recognise that he may be better off having a more experienced hand behind him who could help on the football side of things. Or is a dof sort of position totally out of the question?

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BR is staring down the barell at the moment because as much as our probs are clear for us to see, it seems like nothing is changing. In fact based on that lifeless performance, it might b getting worse. The players seem restrained and shackled in a game where in my view, Balo and Migs came out of with passin grades which is saying a lot. I don`t think BR survives this if things don`t change. He must remember that as a coach, you are paid to win. If you`re not winning and regardless of what you did in the past, you will be sacked.inning

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It doesn't require experience to accept and realise that the changes he has made to our style of play from last season are atrocious! that's just human instinct!

Sorry But i never thought i would say this, but i cannot see this improving a morsel unless rodgers swallows his pride (unlikely to happen) or is sacked, he's gone completely bananas.

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Redohio, I am sorry but why do Mario and Mingolet not deserve any criticism?
To a man yesterday, we were pathetic.
I am sick of the player's being forgotten about while we all have a go at the manager.
No effort, No passion, Gutless. from the players yesterday.

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Redohio, I do agree with your first point though. Things do not look like they are improving.

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Jonny, that`s because that`s my opinion and you are entitled to yours hence, your disagreement is welcome. That is the beauty of debate.

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01 Nov 2014 18:38:01
The problem with sacking Brendan mid way through will be lack of available managerial upgrades.

Idealy would like Diego Simeone to be our next manager, he has an aura about him, a fight about him which is contagious to his team and the supporters as well. ( something which I havnt seen with LFC manager, be it houllier, rafa, roy or Rodgers, only king kenny to some extent)

Carra would be the best option to see us through to the next summer, and then get an experienced manager.

Eds your opinion on this.

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{Ed002's Note - Simeone will not be moving to Liverpool mid-season. Carragher as a manager is certainly not going to happen.

My opinion is that you are living in a fantasy world.}

Fantasy it is.

Well I was talkIing about Simeone for the following season thou.

Thanks Ed

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{Ed002's Note - As I said, fantasy. Simeone will not be moving to Liverpool then either.}

Klopp just lost his 7th game of the 2014/15 bundesliga season. Might be a deal that could possibly happen should FSG be interested. Circumstances are there.

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It is true that Klopp might have taken his BVB team as far as he can because he`s been there for years. However, that doesn`t mean he would want to join us as a rescue mission or might be waiting to make that next step which in my view, we are not it. Just a thought.

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{Ed002's Note - Klopp will not be moving to Liverpool midseason either.}

King Kenny, Carra? Stop wearing your hearts on your sleeves, ridiculous suggestions. Daglish's tactics were terrible, it would be a backwards step.

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01 Nov 2014 21:47:44
Klopp has just lost seven games so he should replace our manager for losing some games?

You for real??

Hahahahah.

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King kenny would have never lost us the title last season with 3 games to go. the chelsea and palace games make me feel sick. and i don't blame no1 else but rodgers for his stubborn tackics

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Dortmund has been playing great football this season. Lots of chances created. However, without Lewandowski the finishing has been terrible.

BR doesn't understand football.

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01 Nov 2014 17:58:59
Question for Ed1 if your around mate.

Do u seriously think we need a change in manager?
It seems Rodgers has no plan other than possession football and attacking.
Do you think with a more experienced manager we would have won the EPL last year ? I mean mourinho or ancelotti would not have bottled it with 3 games to go with the title in sight. Attacking Chelsea like we did leaving ourselves open at the back, for no reason really, I think a more experienced manager would have seen that game out. Same goes for the palace game.
Also the transfers! Is this actually Rodgers' fault? Or is the transfer committee to blame? Is Rodgers being made to buy players he doesn't want? Because in all seriousness not one of these new guys look an improvement on what we had last year.
We could have spend 100m on two or three players and been fantastic again.

Sorry about all the questions but would love your view.
Cheers

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{Ed001's Note - yes, yes and both. I do think it is time for a change, because of the latter two points.}

It seems a bit defeatist to me to change managers in November.
There are plenty of premier league games left.
There is the FA cup and league cup still on the table.
Changing managers in November is very risky, it's like writing this season off. Until we are out of all the cups and not in the running for top 4 I think we should stick.
Once you change managers during the season it's like writing the season off.
I think we have too many good players to give up on this season.

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He needs replacing no question he's well out of his depth at a club like Liverpool, but I think you need to take all the time It needs to get his replacement right first time.
A succession of quick fix panic failures would just see the likes of Stirling and Sturridge get poached by other clubs and put you back years.
I think you will learn from the BR experience and go for a tactically astute manager who's tried and tested even if he doesn't come cheap

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Ed1 take it one step further do you think these next two games if we don't see any improvement the owners will review Rodgers position?

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}

Act in haste, repent at leisure as they say.
Get the right replacement signer sealed delivered before you ditch BR, if that's next week great if it takes till January so be it.
When your talking about the next 10 years the next 7 or 8 games aren't the be all and end all.
A quick fix is usually a S*%t fix in my opinion

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Ken,
We are not improving and won't, we have become worst from 1 to 11 since last season.
Change is needed

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After that perf, I don`t see BR surviving this period except he catches lightning in a bottle and win 4 in a row which will only buy him time and nothing more. The probs are still there and worse of all, they don`t seem to be on the way to being solved. God help us.

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Lads we were awful at the back last season we were lucky we had SAS or we would of been found out then so this is not just happening this season

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01 Nov 2014 22:12:24
Gunner how many times have arsenal fans call for w-----s head, I think all clubs go through tough times I think there is things to be changed but not necessarily the sacking of the manager maybe better help in the background.

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01 Nov 2014 16:39:45
Eds, I'm not suggesting anything, just asking a question. Do Gerrard and/or Carragher have their coaching badges?

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{Ed001's Note - Carra was going for them, not sure how far long he has got. I don't believe Gerrard has yet, but I could be wrong.}

Ed001, Gerrard did say in Jan that he had started his coaching badges then.

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01 Nov 2014 16:38:34
I will be really surprised if BR will still be there on Xmas. The problem is the way we look I am not sure we will be attractive for a top European manager given that it is unlikely the owners will spend a lot after last summer. Yes, a good manager can and change a lot, but more and more I become convinced that we just don't have the quality we need. Of today's starting 11 and subs I don't think there are more than 2-3 (plus Sturridge) that are top 4 material unless they have a Suarez playing with them. The expectations will always be high so a lot of pressure on the manager and players. For me the only answer is Tony Pulis. I think he will be happy to take the challange. But every game BR is in charge will mae us less attractive even for him.

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Settling for 2nd best and un-proven signings are the reason we are in perpetual transition.

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Wow. The only answer is Tony Pulis. Do you people even know what you write?

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Go all in for Klopp. Pulis is clueless.

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The question is if Klopp will want to come. You are asking him to come to a team that will not play CL next season and that is unlikely to invest what is needed to compete with the likes of Chelsea, City, Arsenal and ManU (will the owners probably thought they did do this last summer but I don't think they have money for massive buys and it wil also be hard to attract world class players). And the expectations will always be top 4 spot. So is this worth for him the trouble of leaving Dortmund?

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Lots of people asking for Klopp which seems a stretch for me, but does anyone know how good his English even is? I presume he can speak a bit, not sure as to his fluency?

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He's fluent.

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Klopp might want to wait for a team where he can have another crack at the league and UCL and Liverpool will NOT be his choice in those circumstances hence, those asking and hoping for him need to calm down and think rationally about it.

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Cheers, dwarfonaboat. Wasn't sure about that aspect.

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01 Nov 2014 15:50:16
I have always defended and believed in Rodgers. But after today I can't defend them after that. The only thing I would say is that it's unfair to pick out individual's, the whole team was poor apart from Mignolet who yet again kept us in the game. For Ed1 to say its a disgrace, I really can't knock that judgement of the game.

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Well I have to say, that todays game was one of the worst I have seen from a Liverpool side for many a year, we were so bad in every aspect of the game, they looked like strangers playing together for the first time, and I was shocked at how poor we were, it looks like the team are no longer playing for the manager, or for the fans, there will be a tipping point, were the owners will have to act, because we will no doubt slip down the table, lose cup games, and our season will be over, and still BR will spin another big cover story to the yanks,
well this game is the tipping point for me, the team today was badly chosen, as was tactics, subs, and we will be taken apart by Real Madrid and Chelsea, I can't take one positive from todays game .

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Ed01 is right. It was as lifeless a perf as I have ever seen in a couple of years. If BR wants to keep his job, he`d better do better because as oone who has been a BR fan (and critic when need be), that WAS a disgrace.

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01 Nov 2014 15:39:55
Well, it could be worse lads; we could be playing Real Madrid away and Chelsea in our next 2 games. Oh wait.

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I bet Jose will be looking forward to the game next weekend. Last season our fans criticsed his 'negative' tactics at Anfield, this time round they will probably win and also play us of the park for good measure.

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We will get walloped good and proper in the next two games, and then i think the owners will show pretender Brendan the door. The guy got lucky with the SAS diamond, apart from that, all he has done is waste money on mediocrity and stuck to his useless blueprint.

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01 Nov 2014 15:17:06
rogers words after game, "we passed the ball well but lacked that cutting edge in the final third". what he should have said was we had three strikers on the pitch and not one mustered a chance worthy enough for any to be called a striker. or he could have said basically we are crap and if we had played for another 180 mins we would still have lost and not scored. rogers your tactics are wrong your team is playing like they don't know each other, you are going to get yourself sacked if you don't alter what everyone else can see.

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And it's not going to get any better any time soon, Madrid in the week then Chelsea next weekend. We're done for.

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I suppose if you consider spending 30 minutes of the 90 knocking it about between Lovren, Johnson, and Skrtel passing the ball well then by that standard mission accomplished.

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Couldn't agree any more RDL!

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Im so disappointed with our standard of football its untrue. Not a chance will we get top 4 or top6 at these performances. Balatelli is the worst cent forward I've seen at this club for years i'd of rather had andy carroll an i'm deadly serious.

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BR is "brendaning" himself here folks.

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You can't blame the strikers with Gerrard and Henderson playing the ball only between them because they haven't got the guts to play forward, the balls Gerrard plays forward are 90% hopeful, Hendo can only pass 10metres left, right or behind him. I'm starting to think Henderson next to Gerrard is a bad combo, because Hendo is starting to copy what Stevie's doing, but the reason Hendo is in the team is to counter Stevie's role in the midfield which is to be stationary. Emre Can should replace Henderson for the Madrid game, also Lallana for Allen. Can, Gerrard, Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana, Balo

Skrtel and Lovren play ok but they still drop too deep and invite pressure which we can't allow, they also see waaay too much of the ball. I don't know how Rodger thinks it's working…the point of playing it from the back is to move the ball UP the pitch and not circulating it around R/LCB, C/DM, GK because by the time the ball gets to Coutinho, Sterling, Balo they are faced with three players to beat with no support as Coutinho is on the opposite side of pitch to Sterling and Balo is in the middle, causing the ball to go to R/LB the back again to CB, GK, CB, DM, FB, out wide, lose the ball and start from scratch. It's gotten so tedious it's baffling.

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Nice post haych.
Pretty much what I was thinking.

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It is not about Gerrard or Hendo having the guts to play forward, it's because there is no movement at the front for them to play to, they keep looking for the forwards to make a run but there is nothing.

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All your points are correct, guys and most importantly, it looks like the team is starting from scratch like w did when BR arrived. The players look like strangers on the pitch and this cannot be down to our two strikers being sold and injured. It is down to coaching and tactics. That is the problem for me and he`d better fix it and fast or he`ll be gone, period.

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01 Nov 2014 15:16:51
Would Steven Gerrard really risk his Liverpool status for another seasons pay packet? I think he's calling someone's bluff

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After these past few games i'd be off myself if I was SG.
I couldn't play in that team at present no matter what my allegiances were.
SG has lost it but he looked good today in that side, says it all.

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He should retire in the States if he cares for Liverpool FC.

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Not Gerrard's fault that we are struggling. Clueless Brendan has been shown up to be a glorified pretender to the throne. I have had enough of this s**t, he has to go. If i was Stevie, i would reject whatever Brendan and his amateur understudies promise, and move to MLS for one last payday, or join an elite club to win a league title if someone makes an offer. The club is in absolute shambles. Really surprised that FSG have not taken action as of yet.

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01 Nov 2014 14:16:14
Edd001, do you know why Lambert is getting little game time. Is it down to fitness or what he's doing in training?

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{Ed001's Note - Rodgers doesn't think he is the right choice, that is all it comes down to. He knows about his back problems and so he doesn't train properly, so you can't judge him in training.}

Cheers Edd001, what are you making of the game mate'

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{Ed001's Note - I am not sure I can give my thoughts without swearing! It was a disgrace.}

More money wasted then boss are transfers

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01 Nov 2014 14:54:55
Can't remember lambert even touching the ball. There was one or too times where the ball was played in behind the defense for him and he just stared at it mystified

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Edd001, hahaI got past that stage years agoits only football, the players and.manager would not get as emotional as fans.thats for sure, certainly not Rodgers who is truly appalling atm, his current management is nowere near what a Liverpool should be achieving both on and off the pitch.

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Why did Fabio not start? I'm struggling to understand why Brendan is continuing with Balotelli as the lone striker when it's clearly not working. Also Lallana should have been brought on at half time.

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Why sign him for 4 mill if he has a back problem ? Most ridiculous thing I've heard sorry

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If we see the same quality of performance v Chelsea and Madrid then we will not only see us get absolutely annihilated but that will be it for me. It almost looks like Rodgers has lost the dressing room. Not sure how much longer these woeful performances can continue

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Back issues? Really? If we knew Lambo had back issues and couldn`t train normally, why the eff did we sign him? No wonder he`s always off pace with the other players atimes. It is these types of things that make BR look stupid in the TW. And Jgs is roght. It seems like the BR had lod the DR because w/ the way they playd today, they didn`t seem too bothered at all neither was there a sense of urgency aabout our play. Newcastle played a negative tactic because they did not need to win. We did and played like we were content w/ a draw. That is worrisome for me.

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01 Nov 2014 13:55:42
Atleast we got a shot on goal! Balotelli with nice shot at keeper from 50 yards out.

Anyone else think we should sub Stevie for Can, Lallana for Allen and Borini for Johnson? Yes, move to a back three. We need a win, not grind out another goalless draw

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We deserve nothing from this game. I think BR is being found out.

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Lfc are not a good team anymore. its a fact. last year they were riding a wave . with top strikers

now they pass it around the back. then into gerrard. then its nothing.lfc can't even penetrate teams anymore that's why they don't score goals.

but honestly. look at newcastle. can you really say they are even a good team. i think they are average at best. yet for them. today has been comfortable.

nothing will change this season with that man in charge

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I think calling that lot average is being complimentary mate.

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Mr Red Lobster,
You must have a red face, because, if Newcastle were so bad, and average, how can you possibly defend Liverpool and Brendan Rogers, and you 100, million quid spent .
You were second best to a superior AVERAGE Newcastle side.
So, wake up, smell the coffee and admit, Liverpool are a very average side.
-fact

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W/ that perf, I can`t argue with the toon there.

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01 Nov 2014 13:44:32
Sterling is sticking to the touchline? He need's to come in to midfield & run at them. Balotelli still not doing too much upfront on his own. I wonder if Lambert is thinking what do I have to do to get a game.

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Sterling should have been re-positioned or replaced as he had a poor game, i'd have swapped with Lallana to inject some desire.

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Least effective game Raheem has had in a long time. Mind you he wasn't the only one. Hendo had a poor game and Lovren looked suspect again. The worst performance in my opinion was from Johnson whose game seems to have hit a new low

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Hendo was played out of position and that is BR`s fault. BR is not playing to his strengths and is shackling him which will ONLY reducing his production for the team.

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01 Nov 2014 13:09:33
Janmaat just ran from the centre circle to the left channel of our penalty area without anyone so much as attempting to track him. Luckily Skrtel was alert and snuffed it out when the ball reached him.

But we can't keep doing things like that.

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We have looked poor so far. A complete shadow of last year. Gerrard looks like his legs have gone. Sad to say but his time is up, still a legend but time to be phased out. Johnson looks an accident waiting to happen and Allen just looks too weak and unaffective.

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Mr Dennis, BR will play Johnson and Gerrard every non leage-cup match when they are fit. Someone said here it is in GJ contract and there must be something with Gerrad as well. They have automatic place on the starting 11.

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01 Nov 2014 13:02:15
Can't make my mind up about Allen. Thought he was integral, but today looks completely lost. What is going on on training? We look like a bunch of strangers put on the field for the first time

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01 Nov 2014 13:23:08
Actually I think Allen's been one of our better players today. He's dropped deep to cover Gerrard's forward moves a couple of times and for my money has used the ball far better than Gerrard from that position.

Since Lucas has clearly slept with Rodgers' wife or something, maybe Allen should be the deep lying midfielder.

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Are you even watching the same game? Allen has been poor, outmuscled in every challenge, giving away possession to easily, poor passing and giving away cheap fouls. Why BR dropped Can is beyond me, he was just beginning to find his feet. Henderson aside, we don't appear to have a midfield.

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Allen is useless, he's never going to be a top player, if he gets to being an average player he`ll have improved 10 fold.
Henderson, well ill say it again, runs a lot but produces feck all, both have poor touches, both are poor passers of the ball.
BR, Pascoe and Marsh should be replaced with Alvin and he chipmunks.

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01 Nov 2014 12:57:00
Are we playing with lead ball today?

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Forget a lead ball. lead in the boots more like. least energetic flattest game of football I've seen in a while

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Fear, confusion and lack of confidence more like it.

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01 Nov 2014 12:46:02
Just play 2 up top please everyone can see we play better

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01 Nov 2014 12:33:23
I just hope that goal gives Mario confidence. Every game I've put a fiver on him for a hatrick. Heres hoping todays the day.

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That will never come up,

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Got to sometime!! Or is that wishfull thinking

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01 Nov 2014 12:14:03
see banana boots is holding your team to ransom AGAIN, GET RID he's FINISHED

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There's always Everton i guess. They take all the washed up players. Just ask a Utd fan!

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01 Nov 2014 12:06:23
One up front, no Borini, what does that say after a decent performance and especially after things changed when we went two up top in the week. Stubbornness will get you out the door faster than you think.
Come on let's have a result
YNWA

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Yeah every week I'm beginning to just hope to see two up top and give balotelli a partner and every week I'm still surprised and disappointed.

Not even sure why anymore!

Ah well let's still hope sterling and coutinho support well and interchange and we smash them!

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Ive got a feeling Sterling will be up top with Balotelli with Coutinho behind. Doubt it but I hope so.

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01 Nov 2014 11:33:33
I have to say I've kept tabs of shelvys performances at Swansea and he's developing into an excellent midfielder. Its always nice to see younger players who left the club doing well. Texeira is also.doing well at Brighton. Good to see.
On todays match, I predict a scrappy win

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01 Nov 2014 11:04:58
Eds what does splitting the CBs and dropping SG in between actually contribute to our play?

cheers !

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{Ed001's Note - it is supposed to give the full backs more freedom to get forward and allow the midfielder to get on the ball more easily to create by using his better range of passing.}

01 Nov 2014 09:22:19
EMS, problems with my keyboard on the laptop yesterday so couldn't respond to your post.

I hate it when people make comparisons between millionaire footballers and the average working man because you just can't, but i will flip that argument, if you were playing for a team you had no particular affinity with and you never played and were basically told that you will be 4th choice to play and were on say 70k a week, then a side you went on loan to and who played you every week and were the fans liked you and offered you an extra 10-15k a week would you stay or go if a permanant move was offered? ( A PAY RISE AND PLAY EVERY WEEK ) or would you ask a club who showed you love and played you as there main man no respect whatsoever and ask for almost double what your on at the club were you don't get a game? A mate of mine who has connections at the club and who has never given me bad info before told me that that was more or less the scenario that I have just given you.

On your other points YES he is crap and YES he is a mercenary! That's my opinion you have your opinion which is the polar opposite to mine, but that's what they both are opinions ( although imo mine has a little more basis in fact ) so there is no right or wrong.

The Italian's first touch is a header his positional sense is poor his hold up play poor his movement poor and he couldn't finish his tea, so those imo are the reasons he's crap and what i was told about the Sunderland deal is why imo he's a mercenary.

I'm sure you will now come on here with some opta stats to try and buffer out your reasoning as to why he's this great player who deserves to be playing every game but let's just keep it simple, look with your own eyes when he plays and think why the Manager who gave him such high praise and clearly rated him is trying to move him on and rarely plays him even though we are having the worst striker crisis we've had in years, stats can be misleading EMS, so you really have got to stop coming on here and pontificating to people and passing yourself of as the all seeing eye and a football expert, because your not, your an ordinary fan with your opinions just like the rest of us.

Welshboydave, i wish this site was ran under the old system because I would tare a strip off you but sadly , it's over edited now so it wouldn't get posted, which I can understand because it must be a nightmare at times, but listen up DAVE, if the Italian scores 20 goals this season I will go to the opening game of next season at Anfield in a full Everton kit, I will go you one better, I will do it if he get's 20 assists. He's a lot like yourself DAVE, CLUELESS!

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I cannot think of too many people that would be party to that information inside a football club. Not even taking into consideration that surely that info would need to come from Sunderland? Or that even Borini or his agent would make his pay demands public. So i am sceptical to say the least Waro. I do think he should have moved somewhere tho. You would think that footballers would want to play evwry week in what is a relatively short carreer. Cheers.

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01 Nov 2014 10:36:19
Waro,

Could it be that like most footballers, Borini back himself and believes if he works hard he'll get a chance to stake a claim for playing week in week out? Plus a footballer's career is a short one and perhaps he believes he has a better chance of winning trophies by staying put? Finally, it's a squad game and you need a mix of talents to balance a squad. So I have no issue with a player willing to play 20 games a season or play largely from the bench if they give 100% and help us win games.

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01 Nov 2014 11:14:24
Tare a strip off me? Mate, I'll take my advice from somebody capable of spelling 4 letter words, thanks!
#goborini

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01 Nov 2014 15:56:51
Waro, spot on. Absolutely spot on.
Get a grip of yourself EMS.
Balotelli me ar**!

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01 Nov 2014 08:55:59
Newcastle 0 Liverpool 1. Borini

On teletext this morning.
Amazing really because I haven't put teletext on and have just woken up.

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Hopefully we have finally figured out how to defend at set pieces otherwise we might find ourselves chasing the game again.

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01 Nov 2014 09:22:19
Does teletext exist?

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Is Borini playing?

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Think you were still asleep

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01 Nov 2014 08:34:28
I just hope borini and mario play up front together today! He's clearly isolated on his own up top.

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Here's hoping they get a few games up there

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01 Nov 2014 08:22:25
Hi Eds hope you doing fine just heard the horrific news of lallana's car been damaged by the monkeys is it true?if yes was he insured against the monkey damage?

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{Ed001's Note - it was only a safari park! You accept liability when you enter them and I am sure he can afford the damage.}

01 Nov 2014 09:37:48
What's so horrific about it ? Lol

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01 Nov 2014 07:46:55
We lost the title because of one reason our manager was putting himself first.
We needed a draw, chelsea had to win or there hopes where over.

So why when Chelsea was time wasting after 2 mins where are boys chasing the ball? because Rodgers went for glory.

Just like being 3up against palace he went for goal difference.
The maths said it wasn't happening but he knows best.

Jose never played a blinder Rodgers showed his arrogance . People might disagree but I think it's the most stupid/arrogant bit of management ever.

We need a draw they need a win we should of been kicking the ball away not running around like chickens. He went for the win because he's big headed. Sit back take the draw and it's in our hands.

And now look at us our best right back is on loan. And I go every game the left back, gets over, run every game. It's evident our full backs get overrun. Rodgers has twenty permanent signings.

Sturridge continuo, and even tho I think it's our weakest point Moreno are the only success. Stop blaming balotelli and like costs fans no what he is a luxury so why can't are well paid scouts/manager see that.

If he can't run for Milan his club he loves why would he for Liverpool. That's not his game but the great Rodgers will sort it. That's the end of my rant

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Our defence was the biggest thorn in our title charge last season. This season we have only gotten worse.

Until we start conceding less and start keeping clean sheets then we will continue to struggle getting the results we require to finish top 4.

Moreno has been excellent. I am actually a fan of Manquillo too and would play him ahead of Johnson on any given day. Skrtel has been very poor, finds it very difficult to play in a high defensive line and is a reactive defender. We need proactive defenders. Lovren has been poor too. We will continue to ship goals with these two as our CB pair. No communication whatsoever between Skrtel and Lovren. They just are not on the same page.

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When we lost the title to Arsenal on goal difference Kenny went from his usual 442 attacking style to a 451 which very very rarely played to just nullify them to get a draw or only lose by 1 goal, look how that turned out, we were saying at the time why worry about the opposition just play your normal game " can't believe he did that ", etc etc. So whatever tactics a manager uses it only looks great if it comes off, also our defence was just as bad as this season so we may have lost anyway playing nullifying tactics. Hindsight is a brilliant thing.

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{Ed001's Note - I am with you on this point Waro, I don't think he should have played for a draw. I do think he could have dropped the centre backs splitting while Stevie dropped inbetween though. That was always an accident waiting to happen, the centre backs should never be ahead of the midfield, it is only inviting pressure. Plus there is never a need for a midfielder to drop that deep to pick up the ball, it is just a ridiculous fad that I used to scream at Jamie Redknapp every week when he started doing it. It was stupidity then, it is stupidity now and it will be stupidity next week too.}

STEVELFC, excellent post, Everyman and his dog new what Chelsea were going to do in that game, except the legend that is RODGERS. not.

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Great reply that Waro.
At the time we had won 10 games in a row so why change anything that you are doing then in a run like that.
The original poster. At the start of last season you would have been accused of being mad if you thought we'd finish second.
We did over achieve, and because we came so close everyone forgets the 20 odd years of being nowhere near winning the league before Rodgers nearly did it.
If we as supporters aren't wiling to give the team and manager time after last season's heroics then I'd question whether we are actually supporters at all.

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{Ed001's Note - we hadn't had 20 odd years of being nowhere near, Rafa had a glorious failure as well. It is nothing new failing like that. As for time, he only deserves enough to show whether or not he has learnt the lessons of failure or not. He has had plenty of time to show that he is still clueless about the defence, that he still has no idea how to handle youth players and that nothing has changed. Secondly, heroics? Bit over the top that. They played a game, that is not heroic, and to suggest as much is just silly. Saving lives is heroic, playing footie is just not.}

Have to agree with the Ed. A midfielder splitting the defence is ridiculous and both fullbacks should not be caught too far forward at the same time

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That system is suicidal and and accident waiting to happen and it did.

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01 Nov 2014 07:03:12
About todays poll, i don't think that in any sport a coach is lucky" if his changes and/or his tactics always seem to come off. Surely no matter how unconventional the tactics seem to others if they always work that coach is good.

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