Liverpool Banter Archive September 01 2010

 

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01 Sep 2010 23:59:37
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Johnson*- - Carragher*- - -Skrtel- - - Konchesky*


- - Gerrard*- - - - Meireles - - - - - Cole*


- - - Kuyt- - - - Torres - - - Jovanovic

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:58:20
Hi Ed, love the site.
One query though: the other day you said that Liverpool had money to spend on a striker/ winger but would not use it as they would have to pay over the odds on a panic buy. What is your source on this?
I only ask because the window was open for months, not just on deadline day. If it was crucial that we bought a new forward and the money was available then surely it should have been done long ago. It sounds as though there may not have been money available at all seeing as it is fairly clear that Mascherano and Aquilani were swiftly replaced with cheaper players with (presumably) lower wage demands. {editor's note - the Mash deal wasn't completed in time to give Roy the money to spend sooner. He decided that the priority was creativity in midfield, and I have to say i agree with him, no point buying a striker if he is not getting service. But if the service is good enough even an average striker can score goals, Andy Cole showed that at United.}

Nice point ed but not even taking it from somebody who knows and just by using some common sense. .
everyone knew Masch was off.
It was written on the wall from last season when his family problems became to much. .
when Rafa (just like he did coincidentally with Alonso and payed off when they reiceved 30 not 10-15mil the following season) convinced him give it one more season rather than selling to Barcelona!

Roughly the money could of been worked around with before his eventual sale. . a rough fee known.
and inquires made about a replacment, replacments or different player. .
This is just hypothetical though. .

As in truth though it was. . the mighty (and probally free or next to nothing) Poulson was signed! wow. .
Without at looking at all the other great deals puslow, broughton, h&g and the BANK lined there pockets with this summer. . .

Better profits next season though. .
Lucas
Insua
Aqua
Torres
babel
maybe even gerrard

And fans still daydreaming of sugar daddys, investment and marquee signings, like lemmings fattening THEIR coffers with merchandise and ticket sales. .

O to be a Liverpool fan. .

WAKE UP!

InHisShadow

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:54:30
01 Sep 2010 23:21:22
What a load of pish some of you scousers talk! A few are morose and drowning your sorrows already. .some of you are talking things up and the others don't know whether the cup is half full or half empty. So what if Chelsea named a smaller registered group when LFC can only name 21 and two of them have never played for the club? The important point is to understand that other clubs have quality players, unlike Hodgson's Hopefulls. Roy is the perfect appointment for a mid table team. He is a safe pair of hands and maybe has the nous to make a silk purse from a sows ear. But because you lack confidence in him and the makeshift team of alleged delinquents, wannabe somewhere else's, wanna see new owners, enjoyed the helicopter trip to WHU and Lucas. .you're already praying that Shankly has been reincarnated and will find his way home. . And one of you suggested that his ethics are in question. FFS. .for anyone to suggest he'd regret the famous quote about football being more important than life or death if he'd been around for Hillsborough. . Huang your head in shame. What are you saying?. That those tragic fans and their families regret their loved ones supported Liverpool? That's as bad as saying I was proud my son joined the army, but now he's dead I wish he'd never been loyal and prepared to take his chances. Hey. .just blame it on someone else, avoid the reality and bury your head up Gerrard's backside. Too many people politicise and tribalise football. All Shankly meant was that communities are bound by their hopes, hard work and achievements. When you're in a team NOTHING is insurmountable. As he also said 'At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.' Where's the holy trinity now? Players wanting away or mouthing off about the owners, a stooge manager picking up the crap Rafa left behind and fans who have forgotten that it's club first and foremost. .no matter what.

Sorry to offend. .but it needed saying.

Glenbuck Boy

Your way of course Glenbuck you've taken what i've said about a delicate subject and misconscrued what i meant.

All i was trying to say is nothing is more important than "Life or Death" nothing.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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01 Sep 2010 23:36:49
Roy is mad if he thinks c.Cole is better than babel. Come on Roy give him a good run in the side and see what happens. Roy you have excellent man manager skills babel just needs an arm put around him.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:35:51
Premier-League-25-man-squads

1 Jones, Bradley *

2 Johnson, Glen McLeod Cooper *

3 Agger, Daniel Munthe

4 Aurelio Rodrigues, Fabio

5 Gerrard MBE, Steven George *

6 Torres Sanz, Fernando Jose

7 Cole, Joseph John *

8 Jovanovic, Milan

9 Kyrgiakos, Sotiris

10 Rodriguez, Maximiliano

11 Kuyt, Dirk

12 Pezzini Leiva, Lucas

13 Carragher, James Lee *

14 Reina Paez, Jose Manuel

15 Spearing, Jay Francis *

16 Darby, Stephen *

17 Skrtel, Martin

18 Poulsen, Christian

19 Babel, Ryan Guno

20 Konchesky, Paul Martyn *

21 Meireles, Raul Jose Trindade

* Home grown

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:30:49

"You are totally wrong. It would be harder to name 5 players he didn't make a profit on."

1.Keane 2.Dossena 3.Pennant 4.Riera 5.Luis Garcia 6.Morientes 7.Sissoko.
Babel and Aquilani are also destined to lose money. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
Although He did make money on quite a lot of transfers aswell.

Harbinger {ed's note - Sissoko was sold for a profit.}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:24:07
Whoever put his must me mad
Finally got over yesterday? van der vaart to tottenham how much is he on a week id say 100k does anyone one know how much we got meireless for 10 .7 m 11m or 11, 5m?

my team against birmingham
roy will pik his this is my team anyway here it is
reina
johnson skrtel agger konchesky

poulsen
kuyt meireless janvanovic

gerrard
torresbench carragher jones babel lucas kelly

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK CARRAGHER IS ONLY GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE BENCH HE WILL BE PICKED CENTRE HALF EVERY GAME HE IS ELIGIBLE FOR UNTIL HE RETIRES HES A GREAT PLAYER WHO IS A TRUE LFC LEGEND

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:21:22
What a load of pish some of you scousers talk! A few are morose and drowning your sorrows already. .some of you are talking things up and the others don't know whether the cup is half full or half empty. So what if Chelsea named a smaller registered group when LFC can only name 21 and two of them have never played for the club? The important point is to understand that other clubs have quality players, unlike Hodgson's Hopefulls. Roy is the perfect appointment for a mid table team. He is a safe pair of hands and maybe has the nous to make a silk purse from a sows ear. But because you lack confidence in him and the makeshift team of alleged delinquents, wannabe somewhere else's, wanna see new owners, enjoyed the helicopter trip to WHU and Lucas. .you're already praying that Shankly has been reincarnated and will find his way home. . And one of you suggested that his ethics are in question. FFS. .for anyone to suggest he'd regret the famous quote about football being more important than life or death if he'd been around for Hillsborough. . Huang your head in shame. What are you saying?. That those tragic fans and their families regret their loved ones supported Liverpool? That's as bad as saying I was proud my son joined the army, but now he's dead I wish he'd never been loyal and prepared to take his chances. Hey. .just blame it on someone else, avoid the reality and bury your head up Gerrard's backside. Too many people politicise and tribalise football. All Shankly meant was that communities are bound by their hopes, hard work and achievements. When you're in a team NOTHING is insurmountable. As he also said 'At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.' Where's the holy trinity now? Players wanting away or mouthing off about the owners, a stooge manager picking up the crap Rafa left behind and fans who have forgotten that it's club first and foremost. .no matter what.

Sorry to offend. .but it needed saying.

Glenbuck Boy

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:18:47
LIVERPOOL TO BE BOUGHT WITHIN THE NEXT 23 DAYS! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
{Editor's Note....WOW..AMAZING...MUST BE TRUE....A few details would help mate!}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:07:21
Does anyone else think we should give Kelly a decent run in his preferred position of RB?

This would allow us to move Johnson up to RW, allowing him to get forward which he most definitely can do, much better than I believe Kuyt does for instance.

It would also make us stronger at the back when Johnson finds himself in the wrong half of the pitch.

What do you think? {ed's note - I agree about playing Kelly at right back, but his preferred position is actually centre half mate.}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:07:00
Finally got over yesterday? van der vaart to tottenham how much is he on a week id say 100k does anyone one know how much we got meireless for 10 .7 m 11m or 11, 5m?

my team against birmingham
roy will pik his this is my team anyway here it is
reina
johnson skrtel agger konchesky

poulsen
kuyt meireless janvanovic

gerrard
torres





bench carragher jones babel lucas kelly

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:06:24
When you walk through a storm
Hold your head up high
And don't be afraid of the dark
At the end of the storm
There's a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of a lark

Walk on through the wind
Walk on through the rain
Though your dreams be tossed and blown
Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone

Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll ne-ever walk alone


When you walk through a storm
Hold your head up high
And don't be afraid of the dark
At the end of the storm
There's a golden sky
And the sweet silver song of a lark

Walk on through the wind
Walk on through the rain
Though your dreams be tossed and blown
Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll never walk alone

Walk on, walk on
With hope in your heart
And you'll never walk alone
You'll ne-ever walk alone

JUSTICE FOR THE 96
IN ROY WE TRUST

 

 

01 Sep 2010 23:04:54
Liverpool have only named 21 players because we only have 21 players over 21 years old. Not because we are making loan signings.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:55:40
Since everyone posting their team i'll do the same

Reina

Johnson
Agger
Carragher
Koncheskey

Poulsen

Meireles
Gerrard

Kuyt
Cole

Torres

4-1-2-2-1

Subs:Jones, Aurelio, Skrtel, kelly, Lucas, Jovanovic, Pacheco,

I would rotate carragher with kelly

any thoughts

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:45:08

My team this season
riena
jhonson carra agger konchesky

merelies poulson

bable stevie g cole

torres

bench jones, skirtel, lucas, maxi, kuyt, ngog, jovanovic
reserves, soto, aurelio, kelly, shelvey, pacheco
formation 4231 away from home 4141 at home push meriles alongside stevie g or put kelly right back and johnson rightwing drop bable to the bench


wat do you people think with that starting 11 ?

at times stevie can go right wing and push bable up front

second team
jones
kelly skirtal soto aurelio

lucas shelvey

kuyt pacheco jovanovic

ngog
bench- gulasci darby ayala sterling suso spearing
n amoo

please leave ur comment ed wat do you think of the teams don't you think merailes stevie cole bable and torres cause some damage and rip teams apart. {ed's note - I have to say I am not a fan of Babel, he needs to work harder on the training pitch in my opinion. But a run of games might do him good, though if I was going to play the 3 of Gerrard, Cole and Babel, I would prefer Gerrard more right sided. His crossing is top class and I would want him to get more opportunity to use it. Cole I would prefer central, where his lack of pace is not so much of a hindrance.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:44:01

This woud be my 1st eleven what you think?

RENIA

KELLY CARRAGHER AGGER KONCHESKY


JOHNSON POULSON MEIRELES COLE

GERRARD

TORRES

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:38:20
Sorry blair if i offended you but i hope your werent talking about me with those comments because i never lied to any1 or posted and of that rotten language, so sorry if i frustrated you

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:33:51
01 Sep 2010 22:10:20
Blair Mayne I couldn't agree with you more but now I've thought about it the dog also has to rank above football on that list.

One of my favourite shanks quotes has to be "I'm just one of the people who stands on the kop. They think the same as I do, and I think the same as they do. It's a kind of marriage of people who like each other."

AG

Shame on me AG i forgot about my dog which believe it or not is called Shankly. I'll take him out for 2 hours tomorrow instead of one and hopefully feel a little less guilty.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:31:14
01 Sep 2010 22:09:59
I know it might be too early but

JANUARY INs AND OUTs:

Babel is a good player but i think its best for him to go back to holland, that's if he wishes to further his career, with him gone we need a striker and a winger
if we signed a striker babel coud have gone winger, if we signed a winger babel could have gone striker,
if babel leaves we need both.And i think babel should leave to further his career.And i know what you're saying about lucas, he doesn't deserve the entire blame but the kid doesn't have star quality, tbh i was more impressed by leto, we should've kept him for a winger. and i also wanted ben arfa but the jordies got him, so i think lucas should leave to a team that can give him a game every week 90 mins this is easily best for him. once he's gone, that's it we don't need a replacement we've got poulsen if we ever need that role, meireles can deputise and spearing needs games aswell, and hes better than lucas. So, with babel and lucas gone that would probably raise 16m plus the other half of masch money plus 6milliom budget = 33million.

IN:
winger up to 18million(turan, a.sanchez[please! ])
striker up to 15million(any suggestions people-a.carroll)

OUT:
LUCAS(please! )
babel

ROUND ROBBEN {editor's note - didn't Leto have work permit issues? I am pretty sure we had no choice but to let him go as he was not able to get a work permit to play for us. Though I could be wrong so I would be glad if anyone else could tell me if I am correct or not.}

sorry ed looks like i forgot about that oops

but he was still good tho

ROUND ROBBEN {ed's note - no worries mate, it is always a shame to lose young players.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:29:51
Yes it`s dissapointing that we did not sign a winger, after all Liverpool have always played thier best with wide players and 2 forwards, but chin up I believe we have the squad to finish at least 3rd,
Roy is a more attacking coach the Rafa, so will play a more attacking formation (liverpool play there best when attacking) Ok it might take a few games to get it right, but when it comes right it will be right.
The players re there, they just need to gel, I think they will.
It`s a case of `we believe`. . . and I`m sure there are a few who do `believe`, trust me it will come good for us

Life long Liverpool Fan.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:22:52
01 Sep 2010 21:50:33

It is quite sad how this website has lost many people from 5pm yesterday on.

and can blair and sharkey and red paddy and ag stop arguing and post rumours

ed i think you should make a liverpool debate site, where people can correct other peoples rumours or mock them. how bout it ed?

ROUND ROBBEN

It's friendly banter with Sharkey, AG, Red Paddy etc ROUND ROBBEN hence the name of the page/ site.

IF i had any rumours then i'd post them on the Rumours site but like i've said from day one i havn't got any so there's no sense in posting bullsh*t and lying to LFC fans like some do. We deserve the truth but unfortunately with LFC that's a word they don't use very often in the corridors at Anfield at the momment so we have to stick with the rumours which makes for very good and very funny reading.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:10:20
Blair Mayne I couldn't agree with you more but now I've thought about it the dog also has to rank above football on that list.

One of my favourite shanks quotes has to be "I'm just one of the people who stands on the kop. They think the same as I do, and I think the same as they do. It's a kind of marriage of people who like each other."

AG

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:09:59
I know it might be too early but

JANUARY INs AND OUTs:

Babel is a good player but i think its best for him to go back to holland, that's if he wishes to further his career, with him gone we need a striker and a winger
if we signed a striker babel coud have gone winger, if we signed a winger babel could have gone striker,
if babel leaves we need both.And i think babel should leave to further his career.And i know what you're saying about lucas, he doesn't deserve the entire blame but the kid doesn't have star quality, tbh i was more impressed by leto, we should've kept him for a winger. and i also wanted ben arfa but the jordies got him, so i think lucas should leave to a team that can give him a game every week 90 mins this is easily best for him. once he's gone, that's it we don't need a replacement we've got poulsen if we ever need that role, meireles can deputise and spearing needs games aswell, and hes better than lucas. So, with babel and lucas gone that would probably raise 16m plus the other half of masch money plus 6milliom budget = 33million.

IN:
winger up to 18million(turan, a.sanchez[please! ])
striker up to 15million(any suggestions people-a.carroll)

OUT:
LUCAS(please! )
babel

ROUND ROBBEN {editor's note - didn't Leto have work permit issues? I am pretty sure we had no choice but to let him go as he was not able to get a work permit to play for us. Though I could be wrong so I would be glad if anyone else could tell me if I am correct or not.}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:08:09

Hi Ed, love the site.
One query though: the other day you said that Liverpool had money to spend on a striker/ winger but would not use it as they would have to pay over the odds on a panic buy. What is your source on this?
I only ask because the window was open for months, not just on deadline day. If it was crucial that we bought a new forward and the money was available then surely it should have been done long ago. It sounds as though there may not have been money available at all seeing as it is fairly clear that Mascherano and Aquilani were swiftly replaced with cheaper players with (presumably) lower wage demands. {editor's note - the Mash deal wasn't completed in time to give Roy the money to spend sooner. He decided that the priority was creativity in midfield, and I have to say i agree with him, no point buying a striker if he is not getting service. But if the service is good enough even an average striker can score goals, Andy Cole showed that at United.}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 22:03:12
Do you think itandje will even play for are reserves again ed {ed's note - I hope not, in my opinion he should have been sacked in disgrace for his actions during the memorial service.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:50:33

It is quite sad how this website has lost many people from 5pm yesterday on.

and can blair and sharkey and red paddy and ag stop arguing and post rumours

ed i think you should make a liverpool debate site, where people can correct other peoples rumours or mock them. how bout it ed?

ROUND ROBBEN

{Editor's Note: I don't think they are arguing - occasionally children bicker a little - that's all it is. It was bound to be quieter for a few days after the rush of yesterday - coupled with there being an international break peoples mids have probably moved to other matters for a day or two. No doubt we will be back on track as soon as there is news (or rumour) of the take over.}

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01 Sep 2010 21:42:55
To the person who asked for 5 players that rafa made a profit on.
1.alonso
2.crouch
3.baros
4.bellamy
5.owen {ed's note - how can you include Owen? He came through the academy, it is ridiculous to put him in there, especially as there were a lot more players that Rafa made profit on to be fair to him.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:37:44
Seriously guys take a good, long look at yourselves. The majority of the posts are embarassing at the moment. Some appear to have been sent mad by their build up anger. Others have predicted the financial apocalypse of the club. Others have predicted relegation!

And the minority, cause that is what we now are, sit tight, bemused and wondering when the hell is going on.

Yes Dumb and dumber are profoundly to blame for the mess they have created off the pitch and washing any laundry they find in the public domain for all the pro-hating liverpool media to feast upon, a manager who followed likewise and used the fans support against the owners.

Two seasons ago we went as close as we've ever been to getting that elusive Premier League title, i had one of the most enjoyable days ever as an LFC fan in March 2009 (yes 2009) when we mullered manure and then. . . . . . implosion galore. We had a bad, bad year yet fans on here are going on as if this spell we're in has been going on for years and years.

We all know the position regarding the financial state of the club. We are up for sale, so for Christ's sake this window above all others was not going to be the biggest we've ever seen. Yet fans seem to forget this and in their ignorance go on the rampage becuase we haven't signed a world class player.

Let's look at the glass half full rather than half empty eh? We're up for sale, dumb and dumber will be gone soon rejoice. Surely we should still be celebrating from that announcement from April? It's as if it hasn't been heard because people are so impatient that they are making up stories that we'll be bankrupt FFS!

Let's look at the signings. Mascherano was a waste of time last year, got his head turned by Barca and no doubt would have been no different now. The only issue was we saw his childish sulking, whereas last season only the club saw it. Insua was very unprofessional and ill disciplined in his training routine and got found out. By the end of the season he was a massive weak link. Aurelio, whilst an excellent player, is undoubtedly injury prone and has been his entire career which is why we actually got him for a free in 2005. Aquilani was bought injured, struggled to settle in a struggling team itself and there were concerns he was a bit of cissy when it came to pain in his ankles. Reira faded just like he did when at Citeh and when he was playing didn't work hard enough defensively (see Insua and we had real issues down the left hand side) Benayoun, whilst creative going forward was in a team that didn't have room for someone who was a flair player only. He needed to work harder defensively and sadly he was poor at this and not all that effective going forward IMO either.

We have to admit the squad needed changing. With little amounts of money and with the knowledge of 12 out and 12 in can never work, this is a slow process that is just beginning. Can we not all see this? ?

So let's have a bit of patience and give the manager time to gel, the players time to adapt to new systems, the new players time to settle into the area and into the club as well.

If i were a Liverpool player i think i'd enter the transfer market for supporters and start shipping some of you lot out. You give so much stick to Lucas perhaps yous lot are the equivalent of what you call him. Only in your case you are useless, you are a disgrace, you are not worthy of supporting the shirt and you do deserve to be supporting Stoke. So sign all your posts as Lucas in future.

Bob the Red

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:36:10
Members have a vote on transfers as well as player selection and all major decisions.

www.myfootballclub.co.uk/ how-it-works

The idea is possible, so lets look at Arsenal

The Arsenal Fan Share scheme is a nice PR move (purchase a portion of a share for £100)

excited Arsenal fans think that they could finally own a piece of their club


#1: This can provide fans with a chance to own a share of their beloved club.

Fine Print: you buy a portion of a share "£100 ( priced at a little over £10k per share),

#2: AFS shareholders can attend the AGM and will have a say in Arsenal's affairs.

#3: Anyone can buy a piece of Arsenal.


Fan Ownership v Ground Realities

Fan ownership is an exciting idea, because eventually the local fans as well as the global fans make the club what it is. Keep in mind that it's exciting for the fans, not necessarily for the club owners,

who see football fans as consumers and therefore:

1. Acquirable from other clubs, particularly by targeting overseas fans aggressively or targeting young fans locally.
2. Monetizable assets, hence the emphasis on match day spending, merchandising, betting partnerships, etc.

Arsenal Fan Shares is based on a noble idea – that fans should have a say in their club's future. The problem is that this idea is practically impossible to implement at Arsenal,


AFS may be a good idea in theory. But Arsenal fans won't get what they are being promised.

Barcelona' style ownership structure

Barcelona Fan ownership share Scheme has been running for the past 23 years.


Every five years, an election is held among the socios(members) for club president, and the winning candidate installs a board of directors and determines club policy.

As a fan memeber you have rights. For the Fans annual membership fee of about 150euros , he acquires the option to buy a ticket to all Barcelona home matches for another $200.

That's per year, not per game. This is possible only because the club is not run to make a profit, like nearly all the professional sports teams around the world.

"The idea of the club is to satisfy its "Fan Member" at the lowest possible cost to them. Nothing more, "


This is a the Baraclona philosophy


FC Barcelona's ownership structure is revered across the world and regarded as a model of the ideal football club.

Barca is owned by its ever-growing membership of 156, 366 'socis' (members), who pay 150euros each year and are represented by a randomly-selected group who meet with the board and vote on major decisions.

These representatives have a major say on significant issues such as sponsorship, finances and sporting affairs, while the president of the club is elected in four-yearly polls.

The achievements of the illustrious club since its founding in 1899 are testament to the ongoing success of the structure, as is the fact many clubs have attempted to copy the model over the years.

So why does Barca's system work so well?

All adult members are eligible to vote in the presidential elections every four years.

Club members selected randomly by computer and age, and 25 chosen by the board, join the directors, former presidents and other officials at the annual delegates assembly to discuss key issues, approve the annual report and forthcoming projects.

Only members can buy season tickets, with membership fees contributing to the overall price of the ticket.

Fiscal rewards for membership include discounted tickets for the club's various sports teams including football, basketball, handball and hockey as well as club magazines, e-mail updates, sporting and cultural activities and free entry to the Nou Camp tour and museum.

Ultimately, though, it is not the material rewards which make the Barca membership structure so prestigious.

In a modern game spoiled by disaffected supporters and unaccountable owners, it is FC Barcelona's utopian democracy which justifies its famous slogan 'More than a Club'.The whole point of fan ownership is that, instead of being answerable to an indiscriminate number of unknown shareholder (Hicks and Gillett)


But instead whoever is running the club is answerable to US the Fans, and the thousands who turn up each week and pay their hard-earned money to watch their team.

Everyone - from the chairman through the players to the janitor - answers to the owners of the club (the fanbase) and nobody else.

If the Fans stopped going to the stadium, people would start to take notice quickly

We need to move away from the ownership of something so special as Liverpool fc.

we can not have one person owning a football club that is built by fans for fans


(If the fanbase left tomorrow, Hicks and Gillett would be left twiddling their thumbs)

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:34:27
Hey, everybody, cheer up - maybe we could cheat like Spurs and sign Toivonen and N'Zogbia, send in the paperwork and say Martin Broughton's dog ate the first draft, we were going to make a new one but the printer was down.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:29:26
There is some absolute numb nuts on this site! i can't believe the amount of bone idle people that think we will sign players like augero, adebayour, van de varrt, mario gomes, young, etc etc! This is not Football manager! we can't afford players like this at the moment. There wages are massive for these kinds of players.

Lets face some facts!

We are in HUGE debt. So bad infact, that by early october we have an bill for roughly 100m to RBS for the interest on the £400 and odd million debt we owe them. (Thats just to pay off the interest not the actual debt). This is why we have not gone stupid in the transfer market. the mascherano money has gone to help chip off some of this bill and not on players! This is exactly why players such as Lucas and babel were offered to west ham for cole and the same to spurs for pavlyuchenko! its because we have no cash availlable!
Has anyone wondered why so many squad players have gone on loan? this is to reduce the wage bill of players that are not going to feature much!

I don't care if it takes untill next summer to get a new owner/ owners either! If it means waiting longer to make sure we get the best person/ people to take us forward then so be it! Or would you want to have another laurel and hardy in charge of the club like at present? or worse still end up like Leeds United a few years back and Pompey this year? i know what id rather have! !

Roy has done a great job of upping our quota of home grown players for the new 25 man squad rule. This has been done on a very tight budget! 8 million for 5 british players! This was an absolute must as we were well behind in this quota compared to alot of teams.

Another thing that gets me is the amout of people that blame Lucas for anything liverpool do wrong! Im not saying hes the best thing since sliced bread but the amount of stick that boy gets is wrong. Hes a liverpool player and we should get behind him and the team because as fans that's what were supposed to do! through think and thin! The team lose together and win together! So stop jumping on the band waggon for hating lucas and support the lad, which might inspire him to have more confidence on the pitch!

I don't know any players/ staff at the club, or pretend to know someone like a mates mate, dads girlfriends dog told me blah blah rubbish. i just speak the truth because its the club i love! Get behind the lads and stop moaning! theres a team up the M62 that like to do that sort of stuff, so feel free to go join them for a few seasons. you might just fit in well.

Y.N.W.A-Justice for the 96

Ricardo

Reply. .

Amen sir! couldn't have put it better. The Lucas treatment disgusts me. I'm s* t at football but if i had the chance to play for liverpool, I wouldn't turn it down, i'd do it for free! Lucas may not be good enough but he gives 100% every game, and in terms of attitude, he's right up there. He doesn't sulk about the pitch when he's getting nothing but stick from so called "supporters" at the games or on the forums, he carries on trying his best. For that reason, I will never boo him!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:28:14
I agree with you ed babel will be a lost cause this season hopefully we can ship him out in january lucas and kuyt should follow them out the door why there is still some value.
cant believe in a window when so much was promised are best signing cost sod all.
and are deadline day deals saw plessis, el zhar, insua, swedish guy and dalle valle go and koncheskey come in.
how we didn't have a back up for carlton cole if he was are number 1 target must only be because there was nothing there at start of day and only babel and lucas swap would do a deal allso gutted van der vaart is missed at just 8 million could have played left side
haveing seen are squad only contains 21 players i will remain positive as i believe liverpool can still sign players on loan but does the new rule mean now squad has been submitted any loan players can't play till january any way when new list is put in (please advise ed) {editor's note - as I understand it, no changes to the squad may be made until the next transfer window.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:22:52

01 Sep 2010 19:23:47
HODGSON SHOULD BE SACKED FOR GETTING US INTO DIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE I'D TALK rafa any day

I can't believe how many LFC fans are still slagging Roy off. We've played 7 games won 5 drew 1 and lost 1 it's to early to judge him when the season's over then come back on this site and tell us "I told you so" if we've had a bad campaign.

Roy is probably working under worse conditions than any other Premier League manager and for me is doing ok.

Instead of slagging him off maybe we should be thanking him for taking a job never mind the managers job at the mess that is LFC.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:19:14
Who here thinks we should play Babel up front with Torres, playing a 4-1-3-2. I think playing Babel in his proper position will probably bring better results!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:09:58
01 Sep 2010 18:32:27
Liverpool have only named a 21 man sized squad.

Chelsea have only named a 19 man squad and Arsenal 20.

Proof that size really doesn't matter!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:07:49

Blair Mayne I have to say that your normally pretty calm and measured in your responses, I have indeed tried to wind you up numerous occasions to no avail. You indeed quoted Sharkey last time I tried, you may remember. I have to say the forum wouldn't be the same without the regulars, we have all got one thing in common LFC is the most important things in our lives.:.

AG

I'm a pretty calm guy AG as you know but when so called LFC fans post stuff about our great club along with total rubbish about WW 2 in the same paragrath you have to question what kind of LFC fans they are.

Again i have to disagree with you as the most important thing in my life is family then friends (which you're probably the same) i'll admit it LFC come a distant 3rd but there's no denying my love for LFC and our concerns for what is happening at the minute.

A great man once said "Football is not a matter of life and death, it's much more than important than that" I think if Shanks was still with us and seen what happened at Hillsborough, Heysel and the terrible fire at Bradford etc. I think and hope Shanks would probably regret saying that.

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. Had to take two of my Valium earlier AG but chilled out now mate.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:03:52
Sharkey - just a small note for the record - Blair Mayne is probably Irish (or Northern Irish to be more precise) - his name is that of the one of the founding members of the SAS, leading Irish boxer and rugby football player who died in a car accident in the early 1950's, a statue to his memory is in his home town in County Down - a place far removed from anything in the home counties!

Anyway back to our common love - LFC. I think our club is being run in a way that is more like the way it should with the exception of our two owners. Once we see the back of them in any way that has a positive outcome for LFC will see us to the next level. All those nutters saying Roy is a yes man and Broughton, Purslow and Ayers are con-men really our out of their mind - these are the same guys who blocked H&G re-financing and worked to keep Gerrard, Torres at club and bring Merieles to LFC.

Patiency, we are waiting 19 years for the league title we can wait a few months to see back of H&G

YNWA

RED PADDY (there is only one)

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:01:47
Regarding our activity this window I'd like to say that all the talk about us having no money is not the point. .we have had bids for Lucas and Kuyt and if sold it could have given us about £20m. Lucas does his best but lets face it, he's just not good enough. Kuyt is also doing his best but is getting older and he won't bring us any trophys. To bag about £20m for the both of them would be like x-mas. We have plenty of players to fill their boots and could have spent the money on a player like Bent or Llorente.
Babel is another player that we could have sold. .he gets about 7 minutes every other game and £10m for him would make a bid for a player like Turan or Mata possible. So, in january I'd like to see the back of Kuyt, Lucas, Babel and a bid for Bent and Mata plus Hangeland! If big money are available from new owners we should bring in Edin Dzeko. Dreams aside I can see Torres leave in january and C.Cole to replace him:(

So, either we applaud Kuyt and Lucas every game for doing their best and end up midtable or we do what other big teams do when a player doesn't perform. .replace them with BETTER players. Kuyt and Lucas are not the only ones to play poor, but they are the only ones to play poor and still get 90 minutes EVERY game. My team after next window:
Reina

G.Johnson Hangeland Agger Konchesky

J.Cole Meireles Gerrard Mata

Torres Bent

 

 

01 Sep 2010 21:01:38
HODGSON SHOULD BE SACKED FOR GETTING US INTO DIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE I'D TALK rafa any day

Are you on drugs, how the hell has Roy got us into this mess, he's probably saved our season, with the signings he's made, We will have a great season and show them all that last season was a blip.

YNWA

Sooty

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:52:51
Tell me guys, why are most of you kind of angry/ gutted. . our squad is not that bad. . me thinks we can hold on there maybe until january
This should be our starting 11

. . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . .
Johnson Carra Dagger Konchesky
. . . . . . Gerrard. . . Meireles. . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . .Cole. . . . . . . . . .
Kuyt. . . . . . . Torres. . . . . . .Babel

we can whoop some arse with this squad, against tougher sides we could drop Babel and play Cole there and play Gerrard in Cole's position and then Poulsen in Gerrard's position. What do you think fellow REDS? I was using a cellphone to post this it might look distorted

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:49:24
Just my thoughts based on thirty years love & tears for the club + a bit of common sense.

'Nothing is achieved without hard work' - B. Paisley.

D


Great Post! !

'Nothing is achieved without hard work' -BILL SHANKLY!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:45:27
Why did u not post my statement regardin david moores ed?

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:43:56

2 great players and 1 great fact. .Jonjo Shelvey became the youngest ever player for Charlton Athletic breaking the previous youngest ever Paul Koncheskeys record. SMF

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:38:40
I've just heard a rumour that Steve Bruce has an enormous head. Is there anything in this Ed? {ed's note - can that be classed as a rumour? Surely that is a provable fact?}

depends which head he was talking about ed x

{EDITOR'S NOTE: Whats with the x lol}

i tink someone likes you ha

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:34:08
I waited as all fans did, for signings that didn't come. Ah well, we move on. Roy said he wouldn't panic buy, and he kept his word. I believe Babel is better than, Carlton Cole, and just needs a run of games to prove it. Rafa didn't trust him, as he didn't fit into his rigid system. Lucas will be a decent player, of that I have no doubt. It's just unfortunate that he is learning his trade, in a team that needs to build it's confidence again. When we put 4 past Utd at their place, Lucas was superb, and Alonso didn't play! Come on everyone, get behind the team and Roy, and let's make Anfield the fortress Shanks built, again! YNWA J4T96.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:28:12
Dani pacheco not in the squad ed any idea why is he still under 21 ?

{EDITOR'S NOTE: Yes he is under 21}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:24:34
Well thanks guys for making me feel like the kid at christmas that nothing! how the f$%$ can spurs get VDV and we get kondonkey joke. Any way rant over, bring on the new owners bring on manure top four finish this season and money to bring in some big guns next season YNWA. .

Tomsy

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:18:58

Hey ed, i was reading the squad list for the prem and there's only 21 names, if we do get someone on loan which is a big if can we play him in premier league matches?

{EDITOR'S NOTE: There is a squad of 24 and players under 21 dont be included in the squad}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:15:35
Have you all worked out not only why noone for any decent money came in. . but also why noone on a loan like VDV etc. . ?

Money. . plain and simple. . broughton, purslow, H&G AND. THE BANK! all the same. . experts in money. making money and s* tting on anyone that gets in their way. . WAKE UP! stop being the laughing stock of country and world believing that these people actually care for the club. . they care about greed! #
Just think professional footballers become so, and make it because of their love (actually OBSESSION) for the the game. . Yet even these players are now tainted with the curse of GREED!. . So if this is so for football players.
What of the people who have no football background and had already caught the greed bug years ago in their own professions (BANK, purslow, broughton, H&G)
Work it out. . the only way this greed fullfilment works is by doing it in a way that pulls the wool over the fans eyes. . like thay have been doing. .

While window after window people spend there time dreaming of sugar daddys and marquee signings people lose sight of what is happening in reality, in the present, right in front of their eyes!

The anti Liverpool media(pro man u & Chavski), the Bank, H&G and their puppets purslow and broughton. .
Have so far done this
1.Through the media turned you all against the manager who wanted this club at the pinnacle of world football so they could sack him without you knowing why they really wanted him out(he was even telling fans last year and also got torres to call them out to about money. and def would of this year) and even got your brainwashed backing to do so. . .

2. Then signed a few players mostly on free's and media exaggerated prices while with the other hand asset stripped our club with the sales
of masch and co.

Then Next year they will pocket a fortune selling when there plans truly take fruition. .

aquaman 25-30 mil Maybe more when he shows what a player he is)
Insua 6-10 mil. .
Lucas 6-14 mil (dependant on season)
THen the reason purslow was in madrid the sale of Torres 50-80mil (far more than this season after bad workcup which would not of enbled madrid to recoup there transfer fees through torres shirt sales, and him still carrying an injury)
and gerrard 20mil
and you know what these people are so good at their jobs in pulling the wool over peoples eyes while they make millions you won't even notice. .

Aqua - will be out of sight in italy.
Insua - they already got you lot calling his blood so you ll want shot of him
Lucas - they did the same
Torres - your'll all think it was him and bless him for staying for another season.
Gerrard - same as above. .

And yet while all this is planned and their greedy little hands in glee at how easy this was too pull off. . your all still fattening their bellys as you buy the merchandise, season tickets and gate reciepts. .

But don't blame yourself. some of us tried to warn you but the reason these guys are making millions is because their so job at their jobs. . and we're just the little people they stamp on as they destroy our club. .

AFC liverpool anyone. . may as well start thinking of names for the new club now. .

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:14:23
To the guy that slated the Ed and put him in the same bracket as H&G, I have to say that you'll probably find what your looking for on koptalk. That's right, if you want to be told what you wanna hear and pay for the pleasure of it fat duncs yo man! The ed has been honest, blunt and spot on about everything he says about the club. Broughton and Purslow have kept the club from falling apart along with the real fans that have kept the faith. . To add, the owners of the club are parasites and I detest them as much as you but just remember they could be worst. They could have just refused any transfers in until the club has been sold etc and where would we be then. Poor old Everton had a £1m budget! Ha ha.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:08:06
All these banters are not credible one thing is credible is this lfc are going into addmiristration sure mr b & mr c/ p & i/ a are not credible anymore there is no one had bid for lfc . i was telling to myslef even torres will leave next january this is a torment that he will leave for barca. where lfc will compete next i beleeve in the ch/ ship next with 10 adrift cause off addministration but Y.N.W.A.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:05:42
Hi fellow fans just heard a rumor from a friend of mine is that rbs have frozen intrest payments owed to them , could this mean we are on the verge of being sold? as what bank would do that unless something was going on behind the sceens , iam not saying this is true but it would make sence lets hope its true

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:04:07
I heard from a source today that no sale is in the pipeline the yanks are trying to keep hold of the club get funds to build a new stadium increase turnover to more than 300million and keep it heavily in debt paying the minimum off with the turnover this will then keep it as an active business

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:03:01

Blair Mayne I have to say that your normally pretty calm and measured in your responses, I have indeed tried to wind you up numerous occasions to no avail. You indeed quoted Sharkey last time I tried, you may remember. I have to say the forum wouldn't be the same without the regulars, we have all got one thing in common LFC is the most important things in our lives.:.

AG

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 20:01:27
January 12th 2010 QUOTE "i understand the fans are a little restless but i can promise you that this summer's transfer window will be big"

It may surprise a lot of you but this came from the same man who said "the spade will be in the ground in 60 days" in Feb 2007.

Now a Texan usually has issues with size and generally tends to tell a few whoppers. Well Ol' Tom you proved the stereotypical theory you tell the biggest whoppers this side of the atlantic.

You've just gotta stop what you're doing and listen.

In Tom and George we trust.

Bob the Red

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:54:08
Why are there no official Liverpool FC Club shops in the south of the country? I am from East Anglia and there are many reds fans from here ?

RS

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:48:56
I think as fans we are all bitterly dissapointed that we haven't managed to bring in a top quality striker. But it's not all doom and gloom if the team can still be hanging on to the coat tails of the top 4 and the club is sold by January. Then we can bring in 2 top class players and I think we can still win the prem. Have faith and Y.N.W.A

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:46:57
Ed. . . what are your views on the reserve boys making it in the League cup? Ince, Ayala, Pacheco, Spearing, Irwin, Martin, Shelvey to name a few ?

RS

{EDITOR'S NOTE: Will be good for their development }

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:46:27
I think liverpool are moving in the right direction with woy alrite we were all dissapointed on deadline day but we've brought in better players than last year and are a better team no doubt about it

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:40:36
Whoever buys Liverpool, the first thing they should do is frogmarch those two American leeches Tom&George to the Cape Cannaveral, strap them to a rocket and launch them far out into outer space, along with their lying cronies Boughtman and Purslow, the puppet Hodgson, and the "main" editor of this site who-in the past couple of weeks-it's become clear (to the eagle-eyed, of course) that he's nothing more than Purslow's stooge. GET 'EM CHAPS OUT AND SAVE THIS PLANET, NOW!
GRRRRRR!
I'm a p*tted off Grizzly right now;me rage is that of a wounded, vengeful leopard gunning for his shooter!FOOKEN CRETINS!
I'm gonna SAVAGE SOMEONE!NO, NO, NO. .I'gonna MURDER someone!
Egads what have we done to deserve this?
GRRRRRRRR! h*ck! !

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:37:49
HODGSON SHOULD BE SACKED FOR GETTING US INTO DIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE I'D TALK rafa any day

1st Its gone bedtime
2nd What Mess has Roy got us in.?
3rd If you want talk Rafa, do it after 6 its cheaper
. . . for christs sake ED. .these people shouldnt even be allowed on computers are you accepting text messages now? it must be hard to type with 6 fingers on each hand! SMF

{Editor's Note: You should see some that don't make the cut. But in fairness, it has to be an open forum - within certain bounds - so poor spelling and use of English are not great reasons for rejection or cens*rship.}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:36:39

Look my Woy did his best! We were only ever window shopping or looking in the bargain basement. Obviously Mrs Rednapp got Harry to the sale rail first and he got the best bargain. Will try to get him to make a list next time(always a good idea when serious shopping is involved), get up earlier, and not take him handbag shopping for me first. He' s such a love. .
Mrs H X
PS I can start a list on fridge door if u want to send me ideas . . .

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:34:46
Sorry didn't see your comments about dropping the war comments and i agree this is a football forum! Just watched Liverpool v Tranmere Reserves and Suso has potential !

RS

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:31:15
Oh My God! What has W**I got to do with football indeed? We are not anti American just the two thieves that claim to own the club for any reason than profit! If they were English we would hate them just as much for ruining our club!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:23:47
HODGSON SHOULD BE SACKED FOR GETTING US INTO DIS MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE I'D TALK rafa any day

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:18:16
Just a comment more than rumour - and reflecting on some of the infectious but often madly irrational posts we get on hear from time to time.

1 - Last day of transfer window is not really that big a deal. The important thing is RH clearly has a plan for how he wants Liverpool to play. He has brought in three quality midfielders with some very canny buying and a more robust defender. The former to get a better supply to FT and a few understudies. The latter I saw play at Fulham and whilst he may not be the most elegant he is a bit of a unit that will add some serious and needed steel to a back four that was pushed over too much last year. That is why Liverpool were interested in Carlton Cole - another player I saw live last year. He scared the hell out of Liverpool's back four and made them look very average. The Reds have lacked a bit of presence and energy and you cannot rely on Stevie G to be the centre of everything.

2 - RH is famous for improving average players. Look at the work he did at Fulham with Hangeland, Dempsey and Zamora. He will get a lot more out of the likes of Lucas, Ngog, Babel and Skrtel than we have had previously. They need coaching not just booing and replacing. .

3 - Liverpool will be sold and they will be bought by a major player. Its important this is all done correctly this time and that is what Broughton is doing. Tottenham? Man City? Chelsea? Go round the world, the High Streets of Asia and Europe you get to see the true world. Real Madrid, Man U, Liverpool, AC/ Inter and Barcelona. As a brand (and I work in marketing, including sports promotions) - Liverpool are so powerful that fans have nothing to fear. That is why they have such a huge sponsorship deal. There is a much bigger picture to global sport than Man C spending a few million on superstars and winning a trophy or two.

4- Lucas. How many people have seen the guy play? I saw him play live twice last year and I want to point out a home truth that may not be popular. Stevie G was more out of position, over hit more passes and missed more tackles than the young lad from Brazil. Stevie G was horrendous when I saw him - yet fans would rather attack Lucas, who I think is maturing into a rapidly improving midfielder. The inconvenient truth is that Torres, Gerrard and Carragher all had bad form in 09' - even when they were fit. All three are great players and that is why they will come back stronger. Greatness is getting up off the deck when you've been knocked down - and that is what they will do.

5 - The best teams in the world do not need or have superstars in every area. Liverpool already has five truly European-class players; Reina, Gerrard, Cole, Torres, Kuyt (fantastic WC) - and Jovanovic and Merieries (sp) should also be knocking on the door too. Jose Mourinho knows this. Any idiot can buy a few superstars it takes a Great club to MAKE superstars. Liverpool are a great club. You can keep your cheque books. Liverpool MAKES legends: St John, Keegan, Souness, Dalglish, Fowler, Gerrard, Torres.

6 - My prediction? Liverpool will be sold in next 2-3 months. In January they will buy a decent but not superstar backup to Torres, maybe Toivonnen or C. Cole. The stadium plans will go ahead. They'll get top 4 with a bit of luck and will have a good run in one of the cups. Next summer will see some serious changes and will be when they make a trophy acquisition to support Torres. This year is just about 'steadying the ship'. And it could be that Dalglish and Hodgson take a more mentoring / Director of Football role to a young talented manager. I think the 'boot room' ethos and pride will make more of a come back, something lost under Raffa. Gerrard, Carragher, Hypia, Murphy could all feature in future coaching structures too. The dynasty and heritage needs rebuilding and Hodgson and Dalglish will do that.

I have no connections to the club whatsoever and my uncle doesn't clean Fernando's missus' bling.

Just my thoughts based on thirty years love & tears for the club + a bit of common sense.

'Nothing is achieved without hard work' - B. Paisley.

D

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:14:45



Liverpool and all its glory is the World in one city.
thats why YNWA so lets not eh, lets walk together to a bright new day and all the ickle birdies will sing in the trees etc etc we just want a particular two Americans gone, they are a disgrace, they would be if they were English, French, Martian, Cantonese or Uzbekistanian. We all want them gone and they will be. .like all History
its just a matter of when

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 19:07:31

I still think our squad is really good. The only player we cannot lose is Torres as we have no world class cover. I have to be honest this could be an opportunity for us to give Pacheco a chance. I hate it that clubs like Barcelona give young players such as Bojan the opportunity when needed; however, in England we never seem to be willing to risk our youth. I think our best team could be (please excuse my spelling of our new midfielder):


Reina

Johnson Carra Agger Konchesky


Cole/ Kuyt Gerrard Mareilis Jova/ Cole

Pacheco/ Babel

TorresI don't really see that as a weak team. I think it would cause most teams problems. If pacheco struggles can always draft Poulson in if we need to pack out the midfield and let Gerrard 'bomb on'.

The only other weakness is potentially speed on the wing; although i don't necessarily buy this. Furthermore, I believe Torres and Babel in a 4-4-2 would cause all sorts of trouble for most defenses.

Sorry to rant its just we are still LFC and within that team there are still 5 world class/ supurb players. I also trust roy. . and believe he will make us a team which is arguably more important.

Pass and Move!

Step up Mr Hodgson. . . Its your time to shine


_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _and the 5 world class players are?

Torres - Yes
Gerrard - Yes
Reina - Yes
J.Cole - No


JAMESSS

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:57:21

Please can someone tell me who mr Ellison is?

{Editor's Note: Not that it matters at all but he is the CEO of Oracle (a large American corporation) and is himself American. He likes boats and cars and amongst other things will not be buying Liverpool FC. He does however have a son who is known for squandering money.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:56:01

{Editor's Note: I think we are done on all of the war related posts and responses. It needs to be dropped.}

()()

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:49:38

If we are as miserable about the situation imagine how gerrard and torres must be feeling

they were promised new owners, funds for players who come up to their level and agreed to stay on this basis.

watch the game against Man City again - we were smashed out the park. We werent much better on sunday.

i have a horrible feeling we will be in a relegation fight this year and i can't see G&T staying beyond January for that. In addition who would want to come.

Yes in Roy we trust and all that but how the h*ck have spurs pulled off a signing like Van der vart for £8M. Unbelievable.

I just hope that Roy plays Gerrard off Torres with Meireles and Poulson holding. Kuyt Right, Cole Left. Agger and Carra Center halves, Konchesky Left Back and Johnson Right Back.

I don't want to see Lucas or Babel in a liverpool shirt again.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:48:54

Where is all the Money?? ? ?

Robbin Cowboys! !

Let's get real and stop talking about this dreamsnd that dream. .

The most important thing to do is get rid of the two thieves who are asset stripping our club.

Administration here we come! !

Big Roge. .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:27:55
Darrius Vassell - Unattached - Pay as you play (30)
Jérémie Aliadière - Unattached - Pay as you play (27)

{Editor's Note: They are unattached for a reason and would add nothing except money to the wage and insurance bills. It would be better and more financially sensible for us to use the players we have available who are not getting a game.}

I disagree ED, if their pay as you play they wouldn't cost us anything because they'd never play so we'd never pay LOL

In fact we could make money of the shirt sales, that could knock £80 of our debts

Come on, Vassell? I'd rather play Voronin up front! On second thoughts you say Vassells unattached. . . . . .?? ?? ? ?

YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:23:08
Blair Mayne YNWA shared his view on Anglo-American relations with us at 01 Sep 2010 18:15:59:

"What a stupid post you have to remember one thing you IDIOT you probably wouldn't be born IF it wasn't for us Brits i.e the Pilgrims and Settlers.

You probably would be speaking french now only for us Brits and don't forget you ignorant torto*se you can trace your founding fathers all the way back and you will find that they all came from yes you've guessed it BRITAIN."

Unless you're a Native American which i very much doubt.

Here endith the History Lesson pelic*n!"

You know I think you have just been had here Blair. I am guess some youngster who has never been outside of the home counties has stroked you the wrong way on this just to get a rise. And they have.

Sharkey.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:21:25

01 Sep 2010 17:42:34
For the person who said this:

DEEP BREATH

Chill guys what is so wrong with the current ownership? Dont get me wrong If richer candidates hitch up then great but in the meantime Hicks and Gillet have invested a great deal in the club SPENT MORE THAN UTD THIS SUMMER. Seems alot of you guys are just anti American which is odd seeing as we saved your ass during 2 world wars!

So lets hope for more money but be gratefull for some of the superb work our current owners have did and are doing. Remeber a bit of loyalty YNWA.

Calm reflective balanced American

UNCLE SAM

You have proven yourself to be a true dimwit as firstly you may have forgotten the debt the club is now in, due to Hicks and Gillet. The fact that the new stadium is not underway. Do I need to go on?
Oh and lastly your use of the English language is terrible :
. . . . . . . . ."be gratefull for some of the superb work our current owners have did and are doing."
. . have done and are doing you numpty! !

The war reference is disrespectful. I bet you are about 20 years old and have never read a history book IDIOT



YES I BET HE THINKS THAT WW2 STARTED IN 1941, NOT 1939.
ALL OF OUR GRANDPARENTS WERE EITHER FIGHTING THE NAZIS HAND TO HAND OR BEEN BOMBED AND BLITZED OUT OF THEIR HOUSES FOR WELL OVER 2 YEARS BEFORE AMERICA JOINED THE WAR AND THAT WAS ONLY WHEN GERMANY DECLARED WAR ON THE U.S AFTER THEY(THE U.S) DECLARED WAR ON THEIR ALLY JAPAN.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:20:46
Why have we had no press conference? its been so quiet, even Konchesky hasnt been paraded. ED what do you think? I think the fans are atleast owed an explanation as to why we havent signed a forward.

In Roy we trust
YNWA

Realistic Red {ed's note - I don't see the need for press conferences all the time myself. All that happens is people start fantasising about what so and so really meant, no one actually listens to anything said in them. I also don't see why the club should explain anything to us with regards to transfers. We know they made bids for a number of strikers, we also know the prices quoted were ridiculous, what more can the club add to that?}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:20:45
01 Sep 2010 17:49:50
Right how can people click unbelievable when there is no better option. It is very much believable just not what we wish right now. Get the Yanks out and maybe we will have a chance at staying in the prem, I worry we would be the next Leeds.

01 Sep 2010 17:18:36
Liverpool Rumours

Right if we are in need of a striker then let dip into the Free market and get a player on the pay as you play deal I have found the following players who are not attached to a club therefore can sign on a free:-

Darrius Vassell - Unattached - Pay as you play (30)
Jérémie Aliadière - Unattached - Pay as you play (27)

Now I know these players are not "Liverpool quality" players however, they would surely help in getting us a striker and both have proven past records in the premiership.

{Editor's Note: They are unattached for a reason and would add nothing except money to the wage and insurance bills. It would be better and more financially sensible for us to use the players we have available who are not getting a game.}

[Editor's Nemesis: That I will concede if the deals wasn't on a pay as you play deal, I mean I understand that we have Milan, Dirk, Ryan, Daniel, David and of course Fernando who can all operate as a striker and without Fernando I would play two up front with Cole just behind and three in the middle. We don't play with width, Roy will use Paul and Glen to give us width.

Personally I believe our best team would be as follows

With Torres

Reina,
Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Konceshky
Miriles, Poulson
Kuyt, Gerrard, Cole
Torres

Without

Reina
Johnson, Carrager, Agger, Konceshky
Miriles, Gerrard, Poulson
Cole
Kuyt Babel

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:15:59
01 Sep 2010 17:48:32
01 Sep 2010 17:39:48
Chill guys what is so wrong with the current ownership? Dont get me wrong If richer candidates hitch up then great but in the meantime Hicks and Gillet have invested a great deal in the club SPENT MORE THAN UTD THIS SUMMER. Seems alot of you guys are just anti American which is odd seeing as we saved your ass during 2 world wars!

What a stupid post you have to remember one thing you IDIOT you probably wouldn't be born IF it wasn't for us Brits i.e the Pilgrims and Settlers.

You probably would be speaking french now only for us Brits and don't forget you ignorant torto*se you can trace your founding fathers all the way back and you will find that they all came from yes you've guessed it BRITAIN.

Unless you're a Native American which i very much doubt.

Here endith the History Lesson pelic*n!

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:15:08
I posted this last night but i still have not got a answer , so i will try again . Does any one know what time Turan will be signing as i want to go and get my tea .Im getting really hungry now as you all could guess .

()()

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:14:00
David ngog, david amoo, michael ngoo

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 18:08:43
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I AM NOT ANTI AMERICAN (esp. if Mr Ellison is the new owner). BUT H&G WERE NEVER RICH ENOUGH TO OWN LIVERPOOL. NEITHER KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CITY OR FOOTBALL AND DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE ETHOS, ETHICS AND GENERAL BELIEFS OF THE CLUB THAT MAKE IT TOTALLY DIFFERENT TO MANY OTHER CLUBS AROUND THE WORLD AND GREATLY ADMIRED FOR THIS AROUND THE WORLD (but not obviously in Texas and Colorado .

YES and remember their first press conference? A ''FRANCISE'', a FU* ING WHAT? We should have known from that statement alone that they was clueless about our great club!

YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:48:32
01 Sep 2010 17:39:48
Chill guys what is so wrong with the current ownership? Dont get me wrong If richer candidates hitch up then great but in the meantime Hicks and Gillet have invested a great deal in the club SPENT MORE THAN UTD THIS SUMMER. Seems alot of you guys are just anti American which is odd seeing as we saved your ass during 2 world wars!

So lets hope for more money but be gratefull for some of the superb work our current owners have did and are doing. Remeber a bit of loyalty YNWA.

They have single handedly destroyed our club, they have only invested loaned money into the club which has created the debt problem and you only joined the war at the very end when Hitler was loosing! So show us some loyalty, remember we gave you America! !

YNWA

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I AM NOT ANTI AMERICAN (esp. if Mr Ellison is the new owner). BUT H&G WERE NEVER RICH ENOUGH TO OWN LIVERPOOL. NEITHER KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CITY OR FOOTBALL AND DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE ETHOS, ETHICS AND GENERAL BELIEFS OF THE CLUB THAT MAKE IT TOTALLY DIFFERENT TO MANY OTHER CLUBS AROUND THE WORLD AND GREATLY ADMIRED FOR THIS AROUND THE WORLD (but not obviously in Texas and Colorado .

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:42:34
For the person who said this:

DEEP BREATH

Chill guys what is so wrong with the current ownership? Dont get me wrong If richer candidates hitch up then great but in the meantime Hicks and Gillet have invested a great deal in the club SPENT MORE THAN UTD THIS SUMMER. Seems alot of you guys are just anti American which is odd seeing as we saved your ass during 2 world wars!

So lets hope for more money but be gratefull for some of the superb work our current owners have did and are doing. Remeber a bit of loyalty YNWA.

Calm reflective balanced American

UNCLE SAM

You have proven yourself to be a true dimwit as firstly you may have forgotten the debt the club is now in, due to Hicks and Gillet. The fact that the new stadium is not underway. Do I need to go on?
Oh and lastly your use of the English language is terrible :
. . . . . . . . ."be gratefull for some of the superb work our current owners have did and are doing."
. . have done and are doing you numpty! ! !

The war reference is disrespectful. I bet you are about 20 years old and have never read a history book IDIOT

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:41:19
01 Sep 2010 14:34:26
The official site works then doesn't something is going on at anfield. it better involve signings

_ _ _

Lightbulb blown at Anfield, very strange. Must mean that Aguero has been signed.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:39:48
Chill guys what is so wrong with the current ownership? Dont get me wrong If richer candidates hitch up then great but in the meantime Hicks and Gillet have invested a great deal in the club SPENT MORE THAN UTD THIS SUMMER. Seems alot of you guys are just anti American which is odd seeing as we saved your ass during 2 world wars!

So lets hope for more money but be gratefull for some of the superb work our current owners have did and are doing. Remeber a bit of loyalty YNWA.

They have single handedly destroyed our club, they have only invested loaned money into the club which has created the debt problem and you only joined the war at the very end when Hitler was loosing! So show us some loyalty, remember we gave you America! ! !

YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:38:52

Milan Jovanavic and Stevie G have better goal scoring records than Carlton Cole.

With Kuyt, J Cole, gerrard, Jovanavic, Ngog, Maxi and Pacheco we have players who can weigh in and help Torres out. Not to mention both Raul and Poulsen can score more goals than Lucas, Mascherano and Alonso. Let's just give them all time to gel . . .3 games lads, 3 games! !

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:38:50
If Tottenham were to take the fourth place over Liverpool by one point because of late Van Der Vaart goal, surely Liverpool must look at legal avenues over the late signing Of VDV today (afer the deadline yesterday.
It looks like Liverpool could have taken Pavluchenko from Spurs, if the deal between Spurs and VDV had been sorted early yesterday afternoon.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:35:43
Rafa is an excellent tactician, however the problem is that what works on paper doesn't always work in reality. Rafa's system doesn't rely on pace it relies on hard work and possession. If the opposition doesn't have the ball they can have all the pace and skill in the world because without the ball its worthless and when they have the ball the team works hard to get it back, It's the reason he loves Dirk Kuyt so much.

When the players didn't work Rafa doesn't do man management so players that are underachieving get the cold shoulder where as other managers try to coax them into form, it doesn't work all the time but sometimes it does. Due to our current financial constraints Liverpool need to make good some of the players they currently have because they can't afford to buy knew. That's why Roy is here and Rafa isn't.

Bob Loblaw


BOB! you couldnt have written that any better, couldnt possibly agree with you more, and i think if rafa stayed torres and gerrard would have walked. well written

Sorry you are mistaken. . more propaganda from the Rafa out media/ FA/ Manure/ Chavski circus. .

Yes rafa's team is based on HARDWORK. . a fluid system that changes from 4-3-3 or 3-3-4(with the full back forward as is always the case) when attacking nd 4-5-1
and when defending with 3 to dominate in midfield and the wing forwards helping double of with their fullbacks.

Surely even an idiot can see that wing forwards with pace help this system alot. . and an idiot rafa was not. .
For those of you with a short memory let me remind you of a few things. . Firstly. this crappy system you all call it was copied first by Moriniho t Chelsea. then alex changed his lifetime 4-4-2 to it(remember people whining about Rooney playing as a wing forward) and a lot later by arsenal. . Maybe their all idiots tooo?
Or maybe rafa's system changed the way football is played. . And those OOooooo' ing about Barcelona's play. Guess what. .! Yes you got it!
copied after rafa employed it to such great success at Valencia.

second point. . the reason we had no fast wingers/ wing forwards. after the first season Rafa publicly explained that when he put a bid in for a winger chelsea and man outbid him for them. then dropped their interest at the last minute. in the end he had to but strikers and use them here. Not his choice. . .

And thirdly. . it may not happen now (as we have an english manager in and the threat of this "waiter" winning the league is over) But watch man u arsenal chelsea play. . when they defend there wing forwards backtrack to help their fullback. just as we do it. . . But. . and here's the big BUT!
The media. papers, sky, etc will always put us up on the screen and talk about and write about us playing 4-5-1 with 2 defensive midfielder(which in fact is more attacking as it means each one can cover their full back when he bombs forward). . But when Arsenal/ Chelsea/ Man u play it. . its 4-3-3. with 3 in the middle they say. . nothing about 2 def mids. . This is called media brain washing proven by the fact that so many liverpool fans actually beleive it. the idea was to get you all to turn on him. .
I know some of you will disagree as it does seem our wing forwards are back further most the game where the others(man u etc) seem more forward. . well the simple answer is this. faster wing forwards like the others have and we were never allowed to buy, means they can get back quicker. . and forward quicker. . but mainly because they just simply had better teams with better players playing teams that defended far more meaning they were forward more often. .

And as a trivial quiz question. . When was the only time the anti liverpool media actually said one of these forwards wingers(from one of those 3 other teams) was not a forward but only a midfielder? ?

Answer: Ronaldo! . . why?. simple. . because it sounded far better saying a midfielder rather than a striker(or wing forward to be more precise) score 30+ goals in that season. .

Rant over. .

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:34:51
After the recent alleged 'spot ' betting and match fixing scandal involving Pakistani cricketers and officials, do any Liverpool fans worry that if the club is taken over by new owners from India, China or the Far East, that because of the illegal and legal betting markets in Asia (often organised and run by the mafia) and the interest in the EPL, the club could be 'pulled' into something very underhand and illegal that could / will bring the club into massive disrepute (knowingly or unknowingly).

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:27:28
The site was down for only a short while, no new signings, no sale as of yet. This is a rumour site and the rubbish that's spouted on here is laughable but a funny read altogether! no one saw Miereles on these sites and no ONE knows anything that is happening behind the scenes

thanks

Liverpool FC has submitted its 21-man squad to the Premier League. Home grown players: Carragher, Cole, Darby, Gerrard, Johnson, Jones, Konchesky, Spearing. Non home grown: Agger, Aurelio, Babel, Jovanovic, Kuyt, Kyrgiakos, Leiva, Meireles, Poulsen, Reina, Rodriguez, Skrtel, Torres. Roy Hodgson can also call on U21s Gulacsi, Kelly, Wilson, Shelvey, Pacheco, Eccleston and Ngog for Barclays Premier League games.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:24:36
Liverpool FC has
submitted its 21-man squad to the Premier League. Home grown players:
Carragher, Cole, Darby, Gerrard, Johnson, Jones, Konchesky, SpearingNon home grown: Agger, Aurelio, Babel, Jovanovic, Kuyt, Kyrgiakos, Leiva, Meireles, Poulsen, Reina, Rodriguez, Skrtel, Torres.

plus these are the available free agents left:
Free Agents! (strikers) Kalu Uche, Joseba Etxeberria, Fabio Celestini, Walter Pandiani, Angel Rodriguez , Gaizka Saizar, Diego Costa, Antonito, Michel , Mario Bermejo, Nicolas Vigneri, Matias Alustiza

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:23:04
DEEP BREATH

Chill guys what is so wrong with the current ownership? Dont get me wrong If richer candidates hitch up then great but in the meantime Hicks and Gillet have invested a great deal in the club SPENT MORE THAN UTD THIS SUMMER. Seems alot of you guys are just anti American which is odd seeing as we saved your ass during 2 world wars!

So lets hope for more money but be gratefull for some of the superb work our current owners have did and are doing. Remeber a bit of loyalty YNWA.

Calm reflective balanced American

UNCLE SAM

{EDITOR'S NOTE: What has world war 2 got to do with football mate?}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:17:04
Hi im a physio at melwood and andy carrol came for a medical yesterday he will be revieled some time today

Should'nt you be back at school?

With grammar like yours, I think you should!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:16:25

Liverpool have only named 21 players so what happens now ed?

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:12:49
The Squad list is out.

Not bad. Just start playing football and start winning. . DO LFC

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:12:45
To the guy that said this. .
LFC4TUNE'

Unfortunately, we do not have enough players to fill the 25 man squad. (youngsters such as Kelly, Pacheco do not need to be included. We could have done with Aquilani and Insua instead of loaning them.)
The squad is:
GK - Reina, Jones*
RB - Johnson*, Darby*
CB - Carragher*, Skrtel
CB - Agger, Kyrgiakos
LB - Konchesky*, Aurelio
RM - Maxi, Kuyt
CM - Gerrard*, Meireles
CM - Lucas, Poulsen, Spearing*
LM - Jovanovic, Babel
ST - Torres, N'gog
= 24 - we can have 7 HG because we only have 24 players.

What about cole?? and N'gog doesn't count either because of the U21 rule.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:07:47
Well disappointed nothing shocking happened yesterday but nothing bad happened either - why are so many "fans" on here mouthing off! Would rather have the squad just announced than one without Gerrard, Pepe, Torres etc. .

Yes the squad is missing genuine width and pace but you find a number of formations and ways to play with this, it will be more of a problem at home when teams like Wigan, Blackpool, Stoke come and organise behind the ball than it will be away from Anfield.

Anyway let's really get behind the team and show our support - we are supporters of Liverpool Football Club - just because we don't supposedly have a team full of stars doesn't mean it is not a good team - it's the sum of the parts that count, that will make it a great team

YNWA

RED PADDY (there is only one)

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 17:04:29
Liverpool are in a steep decline, they will be lucky to finish 7th this year. .

gerrard- - hasnt had the fight for a long time

Cole- - the reason chelsea released him is becoz he was injured to much and did not justify his wages, how can getting chelscums scraps be a good thing?

Torres- - Injury prone, leaving next year, and he does not contribute to general build up play as much as other strikers. although he is one of the best finishers the world has ever seen(coming for a ManU fan that's saying something)

Reina- - consistantly one of the best keepers in the PL and the world. . .let down by a make shift defense.


Liverpool are a team with great history, however too many 'fans' spend to much time shouting there mouth's off about this history. Do not dwell on the past! There are alot of Liverpool fans that realise there is alot of trouble at their club. The take over which is needed is not coming as LFC are slipping down the leagues and all prospective buyers are put off at the thought that they are obvisouly in decline.

You are in the same position as ManU and both sets of fans, apart from hate each other, should realise the true enemy of both great clubs, THE AMERICANS. . . .


you lot need to get rid of the americans by any means possible, could you possbily take out the Glazer family while your at it?

JAMESSS

p.s i dnt really want to get involved in another slagging match about ManU vs LFC, my best mates a Liverpool fan and lets be honest, at this moment in time there are bigger issues(americans) than a rivalry that will continue forever.

there needs to be a change in the allowance of foriegn owners in british football clubs. .


answer:

American's out (leagally or illegally?), MUFC and LFC split between season ticket holders?

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:56:16
I'm happy that babel didn't go to spurs or westham cox I had a bad feeling if he did go they'll get the best out of him and we would have been gutted and ripped off, I think he's going to blosum under Roy I think he's going to do great rafa the fat f* kin Spanish Chief didn't give him a chance I hope he can prove every1 what a great talent he is

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:54:06
I've just heard a rumour that Steve Bruce has an enormous head. Is there anything in this Ed? {ed's note - can that be classed as a rumour? Surely that is a provable fact?}

depends which head he was talking about ed x

{EDITOR'S NOTE: Whats with the x lol}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:51:49

What time do you think the squad will be announced today ed?
{Editor's note - I am not sure when it will be announced}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:48:49
Im finally over not signing a striker but dnt u think club should come out an aologise to fans and explain why , instead of hiding away waiting 4 it to blow over that includes broughton n purslow not just the yes man roy

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:44:53

"Babel shall prove himself this season. hopefully roy will give him more of a chance in the ST position. Roy did say he would give him a chance. and roy rates him. . and tbh (so do i)."

Roy rates him so highly that he sent him by helicopter to Spurs/ West Ham and then when the deal fell through Babel had to return by train :) RH did give him a chance. . . . . . . a chance to join another club.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:43:24

Liverpool FC has submitted its 21-man squad to the Premier League. Home grown players: Carragher, Cole, Darby, Gerrard, Johnson, Jones, Konchesky, Spearing. Non home grown: Agger, Aurelio, Babel, Jovanovic, Kuyt, Kyrgiakos, Leiva, Meireles, Poulsen, Reina, Rodriguez, Skrtel, Torres. Roy Hodgson can also call on U21s Gulacsi, Kelly, Wilson, Shelvey, Pacheco, Eccleston and Ngog for Barclays Premier League games.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:38:51
Dear Ridgebackred
Keep up lad, the education continues, keep coming back, and I'll continue to make you look foolish.
TA TA for now. .

''I know they come into FORCE the season after next''' ''Next season with the new Uefa rules on spending'' NOT ONLY DO YOU KNOW NOTHING BUT NOW YOU ARE STARTING TO LIE! and the previous post saying it 2012/ 13 was MY post!

Don't try to twist what you wrote just because i made you look a fool!

''Chelsea have already done it by clearing their debts''
Let me educate you (once again) Chealsea are debt free but owe Abramovich £726m. The loan is interest free, but it is repayable if Abramovich gives 18 months' notice, this means with the new rules and if Abramovich sells, Chelsea are fu* ed, so you got that wrong as well

From now on if you need to know anything just ask me, you have a big mouth but no knowledge to back it up, the education continues!

LOL LOL LOL

YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:38:30
ha saying Beyonce's coming i'm sure that would inspire the lads I would score her anyday! !

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:27:17

Liverpool will get bought in octobe r fact the bank will take the club of the yanks FACT

expect new signings as funds will be avaliable.

mustifer

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:27:01

Ok everybody transfer window CLOSED. Lets deal with what has benn done and what has NOT. Lets just get behind the lads and hope we can get rid of the yanky doodle danders before the jan transfer window.
My feelings are that Kun Aguero will sign in jan when we have the money for him, what a lift that would be mid season.
How many years have we been doing well at christmas and lost the pace in second half of season, so if we can do it this year we could have a very good season.
Also on the plus side all disturbing player (masch, reira etc) are out of our squad. Good team spirit this year.
Roll on the good times.
YNWA

Gavlar

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:25:28
When will this end? Transfer window has closed yet we're still expecting the unveiling of additional signings. Are we delusional or clinging onto false hopes? And we Still have some goofballs still claiming to be itk about players coming in. Get over it, only marquee signing is J Cole. I won't blame Torres if he leaves in Jan. Let's just hope we can scrap for top 6 cos anything higher will be a miracle. What will happen to us if both Torres and Gerrard get injured? I think I'm better off concentrating on my fantasy football. This Liverpool heartache is getting too much to bear. When will I stop being the object of ridicule by my manure and chelski supporting friends? There Ed, I got it off my chest. Will appreciate if u post this as I'd like to read what others have to say.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:18:09
01 Sep 2010 16:09:28
To this guy

Does anyone have an opinion on MEIRELES? i have no knowledge of him at all although his national side manager say we have signed 'the complete player' ?


Raul meireles is a good solid player with over 30 caps for his country and four League titles in Portugal. He was played quite deep for porto yet scored some important goals in his time there (Champions league aginst Chelsea although deflected). He played over 150 times for porto and has a good fitness record. He can play a holding role well as he likes a tackle yet is also capable of bombing on and getting the odd goal. With his experience & winning mentality its a no brainer that he will be a good adition to our squad. My only negative is that He's played all his life in Portugal and as we've seen many times before may take some time to addapt to the pace of the English game. . . Then again who dosn't?


Thank you !

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:16:20
Forums are also working for me too.

Must be just a select few who are having problems.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:15:26
Babel shall prove himself this season. hopefully roy will give him more of a chance in the ST position. Roy did say he would give him a chance. and roy rates him. . and tbh (so do i).

People are saying he's had his chances. In my eyes not as much chance has been given to him. he came to us as a Young Talent. and when some one plays without confidence because you get frozen out by a certain person (Rafa) it shows on his performances. . maybe if he has a starting chance for a good few games instead of one week he plays next he doesnt.

Got to say he didn't help with his outburst on twitter.

But that's what frustration is. at least he ACTUALY wants to play. unlike Useless rats like Masch who sell out. .


Have Faith in Babel! and maybe he'd start believing himself too.

NO HAVENT YOU HEARD BABEL IS CARP! HE STINKS!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:13:27
I can get on the site, i'm on it right now

Konchesky ( the first interview )

Strange

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:10:13
Im on the liv site forums not working though
{Editor's note - In what way are they not working}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:09:28
To this guy

Does anyone have an opinion on MEIRELES? i have no knowledge of him at all although his national side manager say we have signed 'the complete player' ?


Raul meireles is a good solid player with over 30 caps for his country and four League titles in Portugal. He was played quite deep for porto yet scored some important goals in his time there (Champions league aginst Chelsea although deflected). He played over 150 times for porto and has a good fitness record. He can play a holding role well as he likes a tackle yet is also capable of bombing on and getting the odd goal. With his experience & winning mentality its a no brainer that he will be a good adition to our squad. My only negative is that He's played all his life in Portugal and as we've seen many times before may take some time to addapt to the pace of the English game. . . Then again who dosn't?

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:09:27

Babel shall prove himself this season. hopefully roy will give him more of a chance in the ST position. Roy did say he would give him a chance. and roy rates him. . and tbh (so do i).

People are saying he's had his chances. In my eyes not as much chance has been given to him. he came to us as a Young Talent. and when some one plays without confidence because you get frozen out by a certain person (Rafa) it shows on his performances. . maybe if he has a starting chance for a good few games instead of one week he plays next he doesnt.

Got to say he didn't help with his outburst on twitter.

But that's what frustration is. at least he ACTUALY wants to play. unlike Useless rats like Masch who sell out. .


Have Faith in Babel! and maybe he'd start believing himself too.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:08:24

Mate i promise u it let me on ,
wen it lets u on look ,

1st article was konchesky interview then
quotes from liverpools signings
then konchesky to play in carra testimonial
wait and see then i want an appology

y would i lie about being let on a website u doughnut

{EDITOR'S NOTE: JAMMY}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:07:12
Vdv signed for tottenham, im having a rant on here because on the general rumour sight spurs fans will just give me s* t XD, but the rules are put in for a reason. the transfer window closes at 6 and deals can't be made after so how come the vdv deal didn't go through in time but harry apealed and the now have him in there squad. i mean wtf. does this mean any club can just buy a player now and go " oh we spent the time giving him a medical, flying him over and doing the paper work. can you just lets us have have him?"
rant over :|

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:04:44
Spurs get van der vaart for 8m i think its shocking that were not going in for players like him especially at that price hodgson seems to be doin ok at the moment but we need those yanks out asap

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:02:48
Seems the Liverpool website is only letting a selective few on at the min while the website is down according to some of these post.

" it let me on for a minute ". did it really, you must have been the only one or maybe its just my computer.

not saying anything is goin on but its just down and knowone can get on.

unbelievable = can't get believable = can get on

Scots Scouse

 

 

01 Sep 2010 16:00:32
Vdv signed for tottenham, im having a rant on here because on the general rumour sight spurs fans will just give me s* t XD, but the rules are put in for a reason. the transfer window closes at 6 and deals can't be made after so how come the vdv deal didn't go through in time but harry apealed and the now have him in there squad. i mean wtf. does this mean any club can just buy a player now and go " oh we spent the time giving him a medical, flying him over and doing the paper work. can you just lets us have have him?"
rant over :|

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:59:24
Ha Ha Babel is CARP! ! Never a truer word said in jest, yes he does stink lol

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:59:04
Next season with the new Uefa rules on spending will have his value at around 20million, be happy with that would you?

Ridgebackred. .

I thought i told you not to come back until you read a few books, the rules don't apply until 2012/ 13 see i said you don't know anything about football! LOL LOL LOL LOL

I need to continue the education of people like your good self

YNWA

I know they come into FORCE the season after next, but as the Editor pointed out, clubs are really gonna be tightening their belts, Chelsea have already done it by clearing their debts, there is only one club spending beyond what they make, and that is Manchester city, and they're going crackers with the chequebook at the moment, but it will stop, it has to.
Perhaps you should think about what's posted before you let your mouth railroad you into looking like a chump. For now though I'll let you off, but in future it's brain first, mouth second.

Keep up lad, the education continues, keep coming back, and I'll continue to make you look foolish.
TA TA for now. . .

Ridgebackred. .

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:57:51
The Konchesky signing reminds me of the signing of Michael Thomas lol. At least Konchesky finished on the losing side when he scored against us in 2006! Perhaps he might now officially admit it was a flukey cross?

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:55:48
Why was everybody so upset that babel would leave. He must be one of the most overated players we've ever signed! What does he bring to party? . . No confidence! No final ball, and to be honest looks out of his depth when he does play. Apart from one decent long range goal away to Leon what else has he done! I don't like carlton cole but believe me he can't be much worse than babel.

I agree with this, but i always feel that there is something there, like all of a sudden he's going to come to life and show us all how good he is, he is certainly the most frustrating player i have ever watched! Let's hope he comes to life soon!

I could'nt agree more Babel is always on the verge of being great and then. . isnt!
Why is Ryan Babel like jigsaw puzzle? . . He goes to pieces in the box! !

Maybe he will come good. na your right he's carp!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:55:48

Does anyone have an opinion on MEIRELES? i have no knowledge of him at all although his national side manager say we have signed 'the complete player' ?

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:52:37
Why was everybody so upset that babel would leave. He must be one of the most overated players we've ever signed! What does he bring to party? . . No confidence! No final ball, and to be honest looks out of his depth when he does play. Apart from one decent long range goal away to Leon what else has he done! I don't like carlton cole but believe me he can't be much worse than babel.

I agree with this, but i always feel that there is something there, like all of a sudden he's going to come to life and show us all how good he is, he is certainly the most frustrating player i have ever watched! Let's hope he comes to life soon!

I could'nt agree more Babel is always on the verge of being great and then. . isnt!
Why is Ryan Babel like jigsaw puzzle? . . He goes to pieces in the box! !

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:50:06

So the transfer window has closed.

Where's Turan, Aguero, Parker, Adebayor or anyone else you so called insiders had mentioned? Or does the medical require 72 hours to complete?

Deals Liverpool had missed out on:

Rafael van de vart - 11mil Euros
Loic Remy - 13mil Euros
Asamoah Gyan - 13mil Euros
Klass Jan Huntelaar - 13mil Euros
Boriello - Loan to Roma
Eidur Gudjohnsen - Loan to Birmingham

Seems we really could not compete in the transfer market? Any of the above could have provided us with a good attacking option!

On the other hand, perhaps having too many "egos" or "stars" on the team would be disruptive? For example, how would Spurs play VDV where they already have Wilson Palacios, David Bentley, Jermaine Jenas, Luka Modric, Huddlestone among others?

And on a brighter note, at least we got RAUL MEIRELES! Looking forward to seeing him get a few goals for us!

YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:48:01

I was disappointed that Dalla Valle and Kacaniklic were used as make weights for Konchesky to come as i had become fans of them watching them regularly play. Hajdu and Suso are unknown quantities but i am worried that Roys purchases have predominantly been players at the end of their playing days ?

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:47:35

So much for your predictions ed, what went wrong?

{EDITOR'S NOTE: What predictions were they?}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:46:17
Why was everybody so upset that babel would leave. He must be one of the most overated players we've ever signed! What does he bring to party? . . No confidence! No final ball, and to be honest looks out of his depth when he does play. Apart from one decent long range goal away to Leon what else has he done! I don't like carlton cole but believe me he can't be much worse than babel.

I agree with this, but i always feel that there is something there, like all of a sudden he's going to come to life and show us all how good he is, he is certainly the most frustrating player i have ever watched! Let's hope he comes to life soon!

YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:44:38
Bit of advice: some of you are spending too much time sat around looking at computer screens hunting for news about LFC.

Get a grip, take a deep breath, and things get into perspective, and if you spent all day yesterday waiting for things to happen on transfer deadline day you're a sucker and Rupert Murdoch iloves you

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:43:38
Next season with the new Uefa rules on spending will have his value at around 20million, be happy with that would you?

Ridgebackred. .

I thought i told you not to come back until you read a few books, the rules don't apply until 2012/ 13 see i said you don't know anything about football! LOL LOL LOL LOL

I need to continue the education of people like your good self

YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:43:24

Pretty annoyed with the club as Hleb was what the club needed in terms of width and would of allowed to kuyt and jovanovic to play as the 2nd striker but noooooooooo we end up with no one!

Lets hope the americans are gone by jan so we get some quality players in and start competiting!

YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:43:15
I would also have to agree. never do you see torres saying "i want out".

everytime he is accused of saying such things it never comes from his mouth.

OH torres is on holiday, lets say that he wans out.
OH torres is out injured, lets say that he is fed up.

untill i see the men himself come out and say these things then i will continue to not belive.

what are your thoughts ed?

Jack the RED

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:43:03
Why was everybody so upset that babel would leave. He must be one of the most overated players we've ever signed! What does he bring to party? . . No confidence! No final ball, and to be honest looks out of his depth when he does play. Apart from one decent long range goal away to Leon what else has he done! I don't like carlton cole but believe me he can't be much worse than babel.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:39:56
I have to say that i am again dispondant about the coming season. Having seen very average performances so far this season we again look to the same faces to drag us through the year again. I for one was a supporter of Rafa and felt the demise of the club was due to the owners who were less than supportive. Funny how before the Americans took over LFC were flourishing, yet now we are floundering struggling to put away a team like WBA ( No disrespect intended) a team we should beat comfortably. Unfortunately i have always been and always will be Liverpool through and through no matter where they head but hope like many others that genuine interested parties will come to the clubs saviour . . . . . . . . and soon !

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:39:35

Anyone know why LFC site's down

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:35:04

Next season with the new Uefa rules on spending will have his value at around 20million, be happy with that would you?

First of all does anybody have any proof that Torres keeps making demands, i know he say's publicly what he wants which is only what we all feel but i have never seen any proof of threatning to quit unless he get's what he wants, i may be wrong but i believe it's just another stupid rumour.

I may also be wrong on this but i thought the new spending rules come into force during the 2012/ 13 season which would give us next summer to buy new players, ED am i right?

YNWA {ed's note - I believe so, yes, but each year the rules will get tighter on spending. It is probably easier to start the belt tightening now and get the club prepared than end up having to get rid of 10 players when no one is spending just before they come into force.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:29:41
One question please Ed? Why has the transfer window not been extended to midnight like it used to be? Fat cats at the FA tired of staying up late ?

{EDITOR'S NOTE: I think it was to give squads time to get there dealings done and 25 man squad ready for today}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:29:40
01 Sep 2010 14:59:28
Torres to stay?

Don't know about you lot but im getting sick of Torres demanding "new owners, new signings or im off". He's blackmailing the club at every opportunity! Its a joke. If he dosnt wana be part of our rebuilding process and just wants to moan every time the chips are down then theres no point in him staying! I realise he's a great player but NOBODY should be bigger than the club. After all he should keep his opinions to himself and be glad to be playing for the one of the greatest clubs in the world!

"i said the day i returned to train that my future was at liverpool. i have a contract untill 2013"

"it's a delicate situation because were not in the champions league but its still the biggest club in england and to play at anfield every week is a privilege"

"hopefully we can find a consortium that buys the club and can make liverpool able to fight financially with chelsea and united"

the word HOPEFULLY aint a demand! torres loves playing for this club. he is a true gentleman that remembers his roots and remembers what we have done for him.

this sounds more like a player that is willing to see things through than throw in the towell, just because he says what everyone elts is thinking it don't mean that he is blackmailing us.

you want new players and new owners, so to does he. you can say all you want with no criticism so why can't he have a say?

YNWA

Jack the RED

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:27:30
I have been an avid reader of the banter and rumours page throughout the transfer frenzy and regularly laughed at some people and their vivid imagination! Just wanted to thank the editors for their stirling work which goes unthanked by many. I just wish i was in a position to receive genuine facts to share with true reds fans. Thanks again !

{EDITOR'S NOTE: We will continue to have footie chat and banter and adding to the site in the near future will you continue to use the site between windows as the banter is great when the season in full swing}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:25:46
Torres to stay?

Don't know about you lot but im getting sick of Torres demanding "new owners, new signings or im off". He's blackmailing the club at every opportunity! Its a joke. If he dosnt wana be part of our rebuilding process and just wants to moan every time the chips are down then theres no point in him staying! I realise he's a great player but NOBODY should be bigger than the club. After all he should keep his opinions to himself and be glad to be playing for the one of the greatest clubs in the world!

Fernando Torres is too good to play for us at the moment, he's been fed a belly full of lies by the people he looks to for answers, he's had the balls to publicly castigate our current owners for their shambolic attempt to run our club, and you question his commitment?
If the current incumbents are not removed in the next season, he will be the Barcalona marquee signing of next season, and I for one would thank him for all he's done, and wish him well with his new club, but for Nando the club would be in a far more precarious financial position. At the moment he is Liverpools most valuable asset. Next season with the new Uefa rules on spending will have his value at around 20million, be happy with that would you?

Ridgebackred. .

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:20:40
ABSOLOUTE JOKE WE COME ON THIS SITE TO EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS , IF FANS ARE UPSET THIS BANTER PAGE IS THE PAGE TO EXPRESS HOW THEY FEEL TALKING BOUT STOP MOANING TO A FAN WHO IS OBVIOUSLY UPSET AND RITLEY SO , WHY IS EVERYONE BEING POSITIVE WEN WE ALL KNOW WE ALL WANTED A STRIKER AND DIDNT GET 1 EVEN THOUGH WE WAS LED TO BELIVE WE WOULD GET 1! JOKERS
IT DNT MAKE U A BIGGER OR BETTER FAN BECAUSE U DNT MOAN MATE! !

Still moaning i see! It doesn't make me a better fun just nicer person to be around, you on the other hand must be a right miserable bu88er!

Also, one striker will not make our season, better we buy the best guy in January than panic buy now and end up with a 10 million pound turkey!

Lighten up for fu* s sake!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:19:15

I have to say i am bitterly disappointed a striker was not signed, myself i wanted Van Wolfswinkel, young promising and with all those linked i expected someone to come in, so lets pray Nando doesn't et injured again or its back to square one AGAIN!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:14:31
Tennis? Nah stick to footy, I need to continue the education of people like your good self

So Sorry mate, i never read your post, i read enough yesterday to realise that you do not know enough yet to banter with, but there is hope, buy some books on the sport and come back in a month or two, and don't get angry i've had a lot of fun with you, so don't get upset! LOL

YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 15:08:36
I've just heard a rumour that Steve Bruce has an enormous head. Is there anything in this Ed ? {ed's note - can that be classed as a rumour? Surely that is a provable fact?}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:59:28
Torres to stay?

Don't know about you lot but im getting sick of Torres demanding "new owners, new signings or im off". He's blackmailing the club at every opportunity! Its a joke. If he dosnt wana be part of our rebuilding process and just wants to moan every time the chips are down then theres no point in him staying! I realise he's a great player but NOBODY should be bigger than the club. After all he should keep his opinions to himself and be glad to be playing for the one of the greatest clubs in the world!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:58:12

01 Sep 2010 09:47:53
Can we still sign a stricker on loan?

How about Steve Stricker? I know he is a golfer but maybe he'll turn out to be the next Ken Aguero. Both of them in the lineup would be awesome.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:56:24
Hi

Its me again from South Africa.
Question for the editor. .
Who is Suso and Adam Hajdu?

Faizal {editor's note - Suso is Jesus Fernandez, a young Spanish player we got from Cadiz (I think!), looks an excellent forward for the future. Hajdu I don't know much about, all I know is he is very highly regarded and the club wanted a closer look at him. I believe we got him on loan to do so, but I am not sure if I have that right, I am struggling to keep all the transfers moves straight in my head after yesterday!}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:53:51

Breaking news! !
Aguero had signed yesterday but someone gave him this harry potter book and he by mistake read out the disappearing spell.! ! ! : : : :
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01 Sep 2010 14:48:59
Ed, could it be possible that we have signed a player and are still waiting approval?, example would be the VDV deal with Spurs.
Very disappointed with yesterday. I thought we would have at least getting 1 striker, not a world class striker but someone average who we could have used as back-up for the squad.
Also where do you think all our money is gone, the sale of Mascherano the promised 15m transfer kitty and the sales of fringe players like Riera and so forth.
Have the yanks put some of this cash into their back pocket to fund their 20m pound penalty? {editor's note - it is possible, but highly unlikely, that we are just awaiting clearance for a signing. As for the money going anywhere, it hasn't, we were trying to use it to sign strikers until the deadline. I am sure it will be set aside ready for January.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:47:50
The liverpool site has been down for a considerable amount of time. . . . whats going on.

hopefully its sumthing to do with the Takeover or possibly a signing on loan not sure but its probably best not to keep are hopes up.

look what happened we got are hopes up for the transfer deadline nd all we got was konchesky, So lets wait and see guys and not get to excited

LFC'S MANGO

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:44:46
Great window for squeezing the Yanks out! No money for them and no prize assets gone (Mascherano money was obviously used in part in the Mereilles and Konchesky deals)

Try looking at it this way:
At one point it looked like no incoming transfers, Torres, Gerrard, Johnson and Kuyt off (at least). Instead they all stayed and we got 2 very good footballers (Cole and Mereilles), decent LB's and a couple of other squad players.

On balance this is great work by Hodgson. If we'd bought a top striker then great but it didn't happen (maybe Babel will now get a proper shot and there's clubs interested for Jan if he does no good).

Benitez dragged the level of football down so much by losing Alonso and thinking he could play the same formation using Lucas or Aquilani. Now Roy will slowly alter the shape of the team and over time get them playing for each other and the club again.

New owners are on the horizon so all is not bad - heads up, get behind Hodgson and the team and be patient! Wot d'ya reckon ed? BZ {editor's note - I think the club has taken a step forward, it might not be enough to make the top four, but it is definitely in better shape now than it was when Rafa left.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:44:17

01 Sep 2010 14:31:29
In reply to Roy

(IN RAFA WE TRUST

We missed your insight and the way you say the truth that no one want to acknowledge.
Yes Rafa team in Inter will dominate for the next few years, I expect Carra, Gerrard, Kuyt, Lucas and Torres and the rest of our super stars to join him come January. Not to forget the best assistant manager in the premier league Sami Lee , who will also join him soon)

What are you on about! I wouldn't expect half those players to go there.

Gerrard - I think it's quite obvious that Rafa Frustrates Gerrard.
Carra - never going to leave whilst he is still good enough for Liverpool and when he does get passed it Inter won't want him.
Torres - Think he will go back to Spain and I think we can all tell now that he's going to be Barca's no. 1 transfer target next summer (lets hope we get mega rich before then so we won't need the money)

Out of all that you have mentioned I think only Kuyt who will be 31 by then and Lucas are the only possible and at present I wouldn't mind them leaving. Call me old fashioned but I like my wingers fast and able to cross a ball and my Midfielders strong and able to pass forwards and tackle.

Don't get me wrong I'm not against Lucas and Kuyt, I would certainly have them in my squad, especially Kuyt as his effort is second to none, but I think we lack pace on the wings and I don't think Lucas is good enough at present for any team hoping to get champions league football. If Lucas is to be played he needs a role further up the pitch so that if and when he loses the ball it can be retrieved by other midfielders rather than our centre backs trying to defend an onslaught of counter attacking football starting from the behind the half way line. Any free kicks he gives away from soft tackles won't end up in another set piece goal, which has happened to frequently. Lucas is too soft for a defensive/ deep midfield role and he is not as good as our other attacking midfielders so at present substitute appearances and cover is all that I would use him for. I have watched Shelvey play a couple of times now and although that is not enough to form an opinion I certainly feel that he played ok and showed promise, I know I have seen Lucas have worse games and still get the full 90 mins. I hope Roy uses shelvey, he has played in the championship in the starting 11 so surely he should be given the chance to prove his worth, Obviously King Kenny thinks so.

Rafa is an excellent tactician, however the problem is that what works on paper doesn't always work in reality. Rafa's system doesn't rely on pace it relies on hard work and possession. If the opposition doesn't have the ball they can have all the pace and skill in the world because without the ball its worthless and when they have the ball the team works hard to get it back, It's the reason he loves Dirk Kuyt so much.

When the players didn't work Rafa doesn't do man management so players that are underachieving get the cold shoulder where as other managers try to coax them into form, it doesn't work all the time but sometimes it does. Due to our current financial constraints Liverpool need to make good some of the players they currently have because they can't afford to buy knew. That's why Roy is here and Rafa isn't.

Bob Loblaw


BOB! you couldnt have written that any better, couldnt possibly agree with you more, and i think if rafa stayed torres and gerrard would have walked. well written

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:44:04
ABSOLOUTE JOKE WE COME ON THIS SITE TO EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS , IF FANS ARE UPSET THIS BANTER PAGE IS THE PAGE TO EXPRESS HOW THEY FEEL TALKING BOUT STOP MOANING TO A FAN WHO IS OBVIOUSLY UPSET AND RITLEY SO , WHY IS EVERYONE BEING POSITIVE WEN WE ALL KNOW WE ALL WANTED A STRIKER AND DIDNT GET 1 EVEN THOUGH WE WAS LED TO BELIVE WE WOULD GET 1! JOKERS
IT DNT MAKE U A BIGGER OR BETTER FAN BECAUSE U DNT MOAN MATE! !

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:38:53
There will be no more signing in 2010 trust me i know. the reason i know this, the window is closed now ha ha.

the site being down is odd, but could be a number of reason.

i do know vdv has not signed for spurs though been a late hitch and they asked for special treatment from premier league. souce SSN.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:38:20
I know everyone has been dissappointed by transfer deadline day. But, this isn't so bad. .is it?

Reina
Johnson - Carragher - Agger - Konchesky
Kuyt - Gerrard - Poulsen - Meireles - Cole
Torres

We need a takeover and then we need to add pace to the wings, and another top class striker, and we'll soon be back to our best.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:31:29
In reply to Roy

(IN RAFA WE TRUST

We missed your insight and the way you say the truth that no one want to acknowledge.
Yes Rafa team in Inter will dominate for the next few years, I expect Carra, Gerrard, Kuyt, Lucas and Torres and the rest of our super stars to join him come January. Not to forget the best assistant manager in the premier league Sami Lee , who will also join him soon)

What are you on about! I wouldn't expect half those players to go there.

Gerrard - I think it's quite obvious that Rafa Frustrates Gerrard.
Carra - never going to leave whilst he is still good enough for Liverpool and when he does get passed it Inter won't want him.
Torres - Think he will go back to Spain and I think we can all tell now that he's going to be Barca's no. 1 transfer target next summer (lets hope we get mega rich before then so we won't need the money)

Out of all that you have mentioned I think only Kuyt who will be 31 by then and Lucas are the only possible and at present I wouldn't mind them leaving. Call me old fashioned but I like my wingers fast and able to cross a ball and my Midfielders strong and able to pass forwards and tackle.

Don't get me wrong I'm not against Lucas and Kuyt, I would certainly have them in my squad, especially Kuyt as his effort is second to none, but I think we lack pace on the wings and I don't think Lucas is good enough at present for any team hoping to get champions league football. If Lucas is to be played he needs a role further up the pitch so that if and when he loses the ball it can be retrieved by other midfielders rather than our centre backs trying to defend an onslaught of counter attacking football starting from the behind the half way line. Any free kicks he gives away from soft tackles won't end up in another set piece goal, which has happened to frequently. Lucas is too soft for a defensive/ deep midfield role and he is not as good as our other attacking midfielders so at present substitute appearances and cover is all that I would use him for. I have watched Shelvey play a couple of times now and although that is not enough to form an opinion I certainly feel that he played ok and showed promise, I know I have seen Lucas have worse games and still get the full 90 mins. I hope Roy uses shelvey, he has played in the championship in the starting 11 so surely he should be given the chance to prove his worth, Obviously King Kenny thinks so.

Rafa is an excellent tactician, however the problem is that what works on paper doesn't always work in reality. Rafa's system doesn't rely on pace it relies on hard work and possession. If the opposition doesn't have the ball they can have all the pace and skill in the world because without the ball its worthless and when they have the ball the team works hard to get it back, It's the reason he loves Dirk Kuyt so much.

When the players didn't work Rafa doesn't do man management so players that are underachieving get the cold shoulder where as other managers try to coax them into form, it doesn't work all the time but sometimes it does. Due to our current financial constraints Liverpool need to make good some of the players they currently have because they can't afford to buy knew. That's why Roy is here and Rafa isn't.

Bob Loblaw

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:30:47
I don't understand? everything you said just proved me right that you do know nothing!

Jova-no better than Kuyt, grafter but little end product. Kuyt voted the best EPL player at the world cup! Do you know better?
Cole-Lazy injury prone glass kneed cockney out for last payday. One of the best creative players in England according to every expert, Do you know better!
Wilson-Good prospect, not needed tho'. Four players in front of him. AND!
Meireles-Should play more games than Aquilani, the only decent player we have aquired this window.
One of the most impressive players at the world cup! Althoiugh this doesn't help the Liverpool haters like yourself!
Konchesky-we've given a player that roy tried to sell as Fulham boss, a four year deal at the age of 29, and got shut of our brightest youth player to boot(who was valued at 750k, Rafa rejected a 3 million bid last season) Our brightest youth player? You thing he is better than, Amoo, Pancheco, Shelvey, Kelly, Ince, etc. You are clueless! !
Shelvey-Not needed, how many CM players do we need. This guy is going to be a top player in the near future, although you would rather have Pennant or Gudjohnsen!
Fernandez- You'll have to help me out, I know nothing. . . . . If you don't know who Jesus Joaquin Fernandez (SUSO) is what the hell are you doing supporting Liverpool!

Why come on a football site! stick to Tennis!

YNWA

I've come to the conclusion that you're a moron, I'll disect your points and prove your mental instability,
Kuyt may well have been voted EPL player of the world cup, but who would you rather have in your team? Rooney, Torres, Drogba? Ngog has a better goals per game ratio so far this season than Torres, rooney etc, would you have him in your side? When people describe Torres, they say top three striker in europe, Kuyt, he's a grafter, the championship is full of grafters pal! Grafters are what CM should be, not wide men, the best he has to offer is that he covers well enough for our 'wandering rightback'
Cole is NOT one of the best creative midfielders in the game, ask the Ed's opinion, he's a failed left winger that Chelsea felt comfortable in leaving for nowt, ask yourself, why was that? ?
Wilson, AND! he is not needed, we have an abundance at CB, money wasted this window. All this 'one for the future' is bollix, if we don't sort out the here and now there won't be a future. How many 'one for the future' players have actually become part of the 'furniture' in the last 5 years?
If you think Raoul was one of the most impressive players at the world cup you I wouldn't want you on my scouting team, he'll be better for us than Aquilani that's for sure, because he'll play more games and has the discipline to hold when our captain goes 'walkabouts'.
Dalla Valle, the best finisher we've had since owen, Rushies words not mine, he lacks outright pace though, I will concede that, but football is played mostly in the head, if you can read the game you'll find the positions, being able to hit the net on a regular basis is more important than being able to run fast.
Shelvey, again, not needed this window. Pennant or Gudjohnsen would have been more use to us this window, we are seriously lacking in depth as far as tried and tested premiership players go.
I'm not a 'Liverpool hater' far from it, but I am a realist, we went into the window desperately needing a Striker to cover Ngog, he should not be having to cover Torres on his own. Also we were short of a left back, because Roy obviously didn't fancy Insua. Assuming Benny's and Riera's fees covered Rafa and Roy's costs, we could have technically had between 20-25 million to cover these two positions, but unfortunately we buy ones 'for the future'.
Tennis?? Nah stick to footy, I need to continue the education of people like your good self. . . .

Ridgebackred. .

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:30:18

I am a big liverpool fan and i just wanted to know weather roy is getting another striker or is he happy with what he has got

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:23:17

The Liverpool web site has been down for quite a while now. . . something big to be announced maybe?

*Na they havnt payed the website hosting company the annual £50 bill*

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:22:36
To the guy that said - no no no no no,
Just NO!
rafa too much money, not enough product
champions league, - houliers squad, plus alonso(who rafa alienated and was recomended to rafa by paco herrera, an assistant who also RAFA also alienated (a huge loss to lfc imo)),

fa cup - if that season had not been Gerrards best ever in a red shirt we'd have been battered in that
game!

2nd. in the league- that season was ours for the taking. . easily our best chance ever of regaining our crown- so what does rafa do? ?. . .stupid substitutions away from home, take torres off and stick anyone but babel up front, or even take off torres and bring on a midfielder/ defender? ?, too many draws cost us oh that and the " FACT RANT" just to spur on man u when they were struggling.

first of all, rafa bought alonso (good buy) he also bought luis garcia (good buy), your basically tryin to say that rafa should not get any credit for them two who put alot into the champs league win that campaign? ? the f a cup final, yes gerrard was awesome, the two late strikes where brill, that was a great season for gerrard. i suppose your not going to give rafa any credit for bringing gerrard on so much in one season? ? ?
rafa had his faults but nearly every player he bought he made a profit when they were sold on, maybe not robbie keane but we could mention some or fergusons buys if you like. . . . .all im tryin to say is rafa did a great job, we did play some great football under him and i will remember some great nights at anfield with him in the hotseat. he got alot of grief but still stayed when alot was against him. the time was right for him to leave and us to begin a new era, if he was that bad would he of just walked straight into inter. . . . i don't think so. anyway give the guy a break he does not even live in england and he is still getting grief.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:21:53

Dnt moan course we should moan broughton said wen hodgson was unvieled that he would have a significant transfer budget and all money from sales . We spent about 22mil and gained bout 34 mil and u say dnt moan it's people like u who give the owners an easy ride we have needed a striker for 3years and still haven't got 1.disgusting it's our right talk up wen I pay nearly 40pound a week to see ngog n Lucas playing 4the biggest club in the world so yes a will chucki

If you don't like it stop going and save your £40!

You think that you'er giving the owners a hard time by coming on here and moaning? How does that actually work?

We all come on these sites to get away from our wifes constant moaning, and your here and worse than she is!

YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:20:17

Jovanovic played as a striker at times for standard and was the leagues top scorer, why don't we play him upfront for us?

reina
johnson carragher agger konchesky
cole gerrard meireles babel
torres jovanovic

subs: jones, skrtel, aurelio, poulsen, maxi, kuyt, ngog

not bad till january eh?

E.H LFC

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:18:57
The website isn't down, your iq is!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:16:27
Why would roy save money till jan if we sbould have new owners by then ed? {editor's note - it still makes sense to have money to spend, you don't know if the new owners will get the finances sorted quickly enough for Jan otherwise. It would also be stupid to plan on new owners just in case.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:15:06
01 Sep 2010 14:11:21
Liverpool Rumours
The Liverpool web site has been down for quite a while now. . . something big to be announced maybe?

Please shut up you complete tard!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:12:17
Looking back, it was actually a good summer transfer season for Liverpool!

Liverpool had brought in a total of 11 new players, and most who left were more or less adequately replaced!

GK-Brad Jones
Defender-Konchesky, Wilson, Aurelio (re-signing)
Midfielder-Shelvey, Meireles, Poulsen
Attacker-Cole, Jovanovic

I'm missing a couple. .

Looking at the above, history shows Jovanovic, Cole and Meireles are more than capable of contributing a few goals. And if Kuyt, Ngog and Babel are able to chip in with a few more, perhaps we'll stand a good chance at the top of the table?

Nevertheless, a striker signing would have been the icing on the cake. Any of Wolfsinkel, Gomez, Toinovenen, Ruiz, or even C. Cole or Santa Cruz would have been even better.

Still, let's support our team and hope that results do go our way!

YNWA - cinelli

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 14:03:18
Is anyone else having trouble getting on the lfc website?. very strange if ya ask me. hopefully a loan buy in the next few days is the key but im getting fed up with boring transfer windows-Cmon roy show us what your made of! !

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:58:55
Www.liverpoolfc.tv not working could this be what we are waiting for?
something is up ?
any so called sources no whats going on

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:52:24

Hi, what happened with the official page? it is unavailable. . maybe something is happening? :)

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:51:18

LFC teams: 1st 2nd

REINA JONES
JOHNSON CARRAGHER AGGER KONCHESKY KELLY SKRTEL KYRGIAKOS AURELIO
GERRARD MEIRELES POULSEN LUCAS
KUYT COLE JOVANOVIC BABEL MAXI PACHECO
TORRES NGOG

Not bad, there ok.
but with them all playing at their full potential and a good team spirit like we showed in 2008-09 when we never gave up and scored loads of winners in the dying minutes, we could achieve anything this year.
harry5

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:41:34

Liverpool are currently working with the PL at looking into signing Van Der Varte from Real Madrid on a 5month Loan which in January they will have the option of buyin the player for £8.5M. . . the deal with spurs was not done in time which liverpool had the heads up on and steped up the efforts before spurs cud try and do the same! Real wud prefer to send the player to Liverpool with the links in the past and no it cud form a better relationship for the future if Gerrard decides that at the end of the season he wants to move on if the owner situation doesn't come to what he was promised!
has come from a very reliable sourse within Anfield and if all goes to plan he will be at Anfield this Evening to have a medical

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:40:55

What money is this that will be saved for January? Not heard about the October deadline? The money will have gone towards interest payments and probably refinancing by then. People need to wake up and smell the coffee on here. Look at the fact we can't even get 25 players together for our squad. We have re-couped more than we have spent in yet another transfer window, Our wage bill is probably 200k less per week now. Mission achieved by our loveable owners, asset stripping and cost-cutting. But roll on January hey to see more ludicrous Aguero and co links!


MUMMY GOT YA UNIFORM READY? ??

PLS go back to school and get educated, To asset strip anything, you would sell your biggest assets- - torres , 50m offered twice, by citeh and chavski, deal not done. .gerrard 25m offered from real madrid, and enquiries made by other cubs- - deal not done. . .mascherano- - wanted to leave last year when barca came sniffing-deal not done-wanted to go this season with 15months left on a contract and a transfer request getting 22m is a - -done deal for any club, Just who the hell is asset stripping liverpool you NUMPTY?? the fekin CHUCKLE BROTHERS? ?
. . .this is the worst bit asset stripping i have ever seen, if your to be believed. .

J4 96 YNWA

jasonlfc(7)

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:38:24
Van der vaart coming stop these lies why do you people like getting our hopes up i mean seriously? get some sense 99.9 % i bet u van der vaart won't sign. if he does ill be the first 1 thanking u but if he doesn't ur a f* kin liar

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:38:24
25 man squad

reina, jones, gulacsi
Johnson, Kelly, darby, Wilson, carra, agger, skrtel, Greek, aurelio, konch
kuyt, maxi, gerrard, Lucas, poulsen, merieles, babel, jova
ngog, torres, cole, pacheco

still have

Shelvey
amoo
mavinga
ince
Robinson

all these don't need to be included

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:38:13
I can't beleive the amount of personal vitriol on this site today.

These refugees from shopping at JJB Sports, washing their pitbulls, signing-on and struggling with the Daily Sport's Easy Crossword should leave the rhetoric and verbal cajoling to th'real fans' who are often on this site.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:36:04
Liverpool are currently working with the PL at looking into signing Van Der Varte from Real Madrid on a 5month Loan which in January they will have the option of buyin the player for £8.5M. . . the deal with spurs was not done in time which liverpool had the heads up on and steped up the efforts before spurs cud try and do the same! Real wud prefer to send the player to Liverpool with the links in the past and no it cud form a better relationship for the future if Gerrard decides that at the end of the season he wants to move on if the owner situation doesn't come to what he was promised!
has come from a very reliable sourse within Anfield and if all goes to plan he will be at Anfield this Evening to have a medical

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:31:51
Aguero turned down a transfer to Liverpool as he felt he would never get in the team with Ngog still there

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:27:23

Santa cruz not in 25 man MC squad.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:25:58
STOP STOP PLS STOP.

"How quick you were to welcome Roy and dismiss the legacy of Rafa. But now Roys futile transfer dealings have exposed the fact that we have lost the worlds most adept manager and gained a plonker.
Rafa has already assembled a mighty squad at Inter we can only look on with envy as they gain all his talent. And lets show some respect to him as most our players were ready to jump ship and be re united with him yet no Rafa stayed loyal and did not plunder his old club.

If we are not carefull Torres and Kuyt will defo demand a move to Inter come January.

IN RAFA WE TRUST"

no no no no no,
Just NO! !
rafa too much money, not enough product
champions league, - houliers squad, plus alonso(who rafa alienated and was recomended to rafa by paco herrera, an assistant who also RAFA also alienated (a huge loss to lfc imo)),

fa cup - if that season had not been Gerrards best ever in a red shirt we'd have been battered in that
game!

2nd. in the league- that season was ours for the taking. . easily our best chance ever of regaining our crown- so what does rafa do? ?. . .stupid substitutions away from home, take torres off and stick anyone but babel up front, or even take off torres and bring on a midfielder/ defender? ?, too many draws cost us oh that and the " FACT RANT" just to spur on man u when they were struggling.

last seasons disaster. . . again stupid sub's refusal to play yossi, defensive formations, utter praise for masch and lucas.sweet f.a for torres and gerrard. way to win the lads. .NOT
Goodbye rafa , thank god we have a RESPECTFUL, INTELLIGENT, ASTUTE, ARTICULATE, HONEST and SUPPORTIVE and FORTHRIGHT Manager in ROY, and the club is doing it's business in the time HONOURED TRADITION of the LIVERPOOL WAY! !
Rafa was good at europe, but give me the premier league any season. ROY is cleaning up a MESS left behind, and as far as i can see, by spending very very little if nothing, is doing a dam fine job.

J4 96 YNWA

jasonlfc(7)

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:25:40

Do you know that not one rumour was posted on here about the Meireles signing and as many fans from Tottenham and Arsenal claimed Joe Cole was signing for them as LFC fans.

Also many of the rumours people post on here are not substantiated with any credible evidence and are just snippets taken from goal.com, football365.com or their own deluded minds.

Who cares if there is £15M for a striker left in our budget? There are 20+ games until then for things to change radically on the playing and ownership front.

What disappoints me is hearing Redknapp say yesterday that his chairman phoned him to see if he wanted to take a punt on VDV with 2 hours to go before the deadline. With an abundance of midfield talent already, the chairman began the potential move! In years gone by VDV, Huntelaar, Wolfswinkel etc would have been brought in by LFC as the norm and the fans expected it.

Now we are left to get excited by the prospect of C. Cole signing!

* * WELSH KOPITE* *

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:20:17

Liverpool are currently working with the PL at looking into signing Van Der Varte from Real Madrid on a 5month Loan which in January they will have the option of buyin the player for £8.5M. . . the deal with spurs was not done in time which liverpool had the heads up on and steped up the efforts before spurs cud try and do the same! Real wud prefer to send the player to Liverpool with the links in the past and no it cud form a better relationship for the future if Gerrard decides that at the end of the season he wants to move on if the owner situation doesn't come to what he was promised!
has come from a very reliable sourse within Anfield and if all goes to plan he will be at Anfield this Evening to have a medical

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:20:16

01 Sep 2010 13:09:52

01 Sep 2010 11:56:23
'
So who will our 25 squad be?

LFC4TUNE'

Unfortunately, we do not have enough players to fill the 25 man squad. (youngsters such as Kelly, Pacheco do not need to be included. We could have done with Aquilani and Insua instead of loaning them.)
The squad is:
GK - Reina, Jones*
RB - Johnson*, Darby*
CB - Carragher*, Skrtel
CB - Agger, Kyrgiakos
LB - Konchesky*, Aurelio
RM - Maxi, Kuyt
CM - Gerrard*, Meireles
CM - Lucas, Poulsen, Spearing*
LM - Jovanovic, Babel
ST - Torres, N'gog
= 24 - we can have 7 HG because we only have 24 players.

Great team - I would still include others e.g. Cole?

And what about Jonjo Shelvey, Danny Wilson? I'm sure they could be in the 25-man squad? And I only counted 21 in the original List! With Cole, Shelvey and Wilson that makes 24!

Anyone else?

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:20:11
What money is this that will be saved for January? Not heard about the October deadline? The money will have gone towards interest payments and probably refinancing by then. People need to wake up and smell the coffee on here. Look at the fact we can't even get 25 players together for our squad. We have re-couped more than we have spent in yet another transfer window, Our wage bill is probably 200k less per week now. Mission achieved by our loveable owners, asset stripping and cost-cutting. But roll on January hey to see more ludicrous Aguero and co links!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:19:56

Right! The Transfer season is over. We are all a bit gutted that yet again Gillette and Hicks have milked the club rather than invested in it (no suprise there).

NOW IT'S TIME TO GET BEHIND OUR TEAM and cut out all the in fighting. It is going to be a tough enough season as it is without the fans getting at each other. We have to find a balance between supporting the club and keeping pressure on Gillette & Hicks to leave ASAP.

It is my belief that Hicks and Gillette will cling onto the club for as long as possible and will assett strip it as much as they deem necessary to keep hold of it. For example, sell Torres in January to keep up with the payments. Waiting for the economy to pick up and hence lending conditions ease (4 years from now) The only option the fans have is to make their business completely unviable to force a hurried sale. This option forces the price of the club down, thus giving the new owner more money to spend on a new stadium, players & marketing.

With a heavy heart I have decided that I will continue to go to matches though I will not spend a penny in the stadium or on merchandise until we go out and buy a big player, someone that can make a real difference to the team. I just feel that the money I spend with the intention of helping the club improve is infact lining the pockets of people that don't care about us or our club.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:19:15
As for the others - I accept criticism, but correct your grammar and spelling before lecturing me, please.

Once again shut up, corporate executives ha ha. More like corporate slave, anyway your boring everybody now.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:14:28

Ed, seems the Loan window only opens next week?

When does it actually open and when dies it close? Perhaps we have a Striker in mind whom we like on loan? Such as Mario Gomez or Roque Santa Cruz?

What are our chances?

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:12:34
RE: So who will our 25 squad be?

Joe Cole?

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:12:22
LFC4TUNE

YOU HAVE LEFT OUT COLE AND HE IS HG
25 MEN
8 HG

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:11:15
Dnt moan course we should moan broughton said wen hodgson was unvieled that he would have a significant transfer budget and all money from sales . We spent about 22mil and gained bout 34 mil and u say dnt moan it's people like u who give the owners an easy ride we have needed a striker for 3years and still haven't got 1.disgusting it's our right talk up wen I pay nearly 40pound a week to see ngog n Lucas playing 4the biggest club in the world so yes a will chucking moan

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:09:00
We should get behind our team want the yanks out as much as anyone does but we must support the team we have always been the twelve man now we have to score the goals. . . . .

Hopefully yanks gone soon then new owners then january buy some new players here is hoping fingers crossed

JUST GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND THE MANAGER


YNWA. . . .

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:08:10
Roy should try and get a reject from one of the top 10 teams such as: Jenas, Bentley, Santa Cruz, Adebayor(not used), Kranjcar/ Pavlyuchenko/ Keane(don't need all of them), SWP, or any one who isn't making the 25 man squad. which we will find out at 5 today. Come on Roy, try and loan someone! (can we loan after 5pm today?)

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:07:31
Were 5 points off top and 4 points of bottom were closer to relegation :@
long season coming up sad faces all around

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:04:55

Hopefully the Aguero rumours will taper off till the next transfer window. Never know, say it often enough. .it might just happen.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:03:40

Hi im a physio at melwood and andy carrol came for a medical yesterday he will be revieled some time today

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:03:35

4-2-3-1

- - - - - - - - -Torres

- - - - Babel- - -Cole- - - Kuyt

- - - - - Meireles- - -Gerrard

- Konchesky- Agger- Carragher- Johnson

4-4-2

- - - - - - - - Torres- - -Babel

- - - - - - Cole- - Gerrard- - Kuyt

- - - - - - - - - - Meireles

- Konchelsky- -Agger- - -Carra- - -Johnson

SERIOUSLY IT'S NOT THE BAD GUYS!

COME ON THE REDS! !

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:03:27
Unfortunately, we do not have enough players to fill the 25 man squad. (youngsters such as Kelly, Pacheco do not need to be included. We could have done with Aquilani and Insua instead of loaning them.)
The squad is:
GK - Reina, Jones*
RB - Johnson*, Darby*
CB - Carragher*, Skrtel
CB - Agger, Kyrgiakos
LB - Konchesky*, Aurelio
RM - Maxi, Kuyt
CM - Gerrard*, Meireles
CM - Lucas, Poulsen, Spearing*
LM - Jovanovic, Babel
ST - Torres, N'gog
= 24 - we can have 7 HG because we only have 24 players.

What about Joe Cole? ?

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:02:46
I wonder with all the hype and Liverpool fans knowing yesterday we had money to spend , why has there not been any official statement from Roy or the club , each transfer you hope that a club manger is given money by the board to replace or strengthen key postitions in the team Roy at some point must of told the board he would like x amount of millions to help Torres up front to get the money , MY POINT IS HE FAILED TO DELIVER AND SHOULD BE HELD ACOUNTBLE , this mistake could put us in the same position as last year season over by OCTOBER would like your views ED please

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:01:41
I wonder with all the hype and Liverpool fans knowing yesterday we had money to spend , why has there not been any official statement from Roy or the club , each transfer you hope that a club manger is given money by the board to replace or strengthen key postitions in the team Roy at some point must of told the board he would like x amount of millions to help Torres up front to get the money , MY POINT IS HE FAILED TO DELIVER AND SHOULD BE HELD ACOUNTBLE , this mistake could put us in the same position as last year season over by OCTOBER would like your views ED please

 

 

01 Sep 2010 13:01:09
Ed, why would roy save money for the jan transfer window, like you said, considering that we sbould have new owners by then, so this money would have been taken away when h and g left the club?

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:58:13

Ed, where do you think liverpool will finish this season? Being the "deluded" lfc fan i am im going with league champions, as i always have ever since i can remember. Like i keep saying, even though im dissapointed im gonna keep the faith.
P.S. To whoever keeps saying torres09 needs a strike partner, have you seen him with spain(d.villa07) or with robbie keane alongside him? Hopeless! He is a lone striker! And no quality striker would want to sit on a bench! Ngog, babel, pacheco, etc would do for now.
P.P.S What is done is done people. Im done moping and ready to get behind my team, so lets all do the same. Its gonna be a great season just watch. And after 5 years we finally have a manager who celebrates when we score a goal again.
Red bl00ded!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:56:41
SHORT MEMORIES

All this moaning about Rafa's treatment of Alonso!

Is it any different to the treatment of Lucas and Babel by Hodgson, did he not offer the pair yesterday in a transfer swop deal for a very average English player C.Cole, only days after saying Lucas is not for sale, and Babel is definately part of his plans , and he will play as a Striker.

For all or any faults Rafa may have had , he was still Manager on the best night I have ever experienced, as a Liverpool fan, , , ISTANBUL. .

Get over it , it may have been time for a change, but lets face it we swopped a top class manager, for at best an ordinary one.

Before you argue, compare their records in the top League's i.e. England, Spain, Italy.

And no I do not consider SWEDEN or NORWAY top leagues!

What has Hodgson ever won??

rasone

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:56:07
We need a striker, arsenal have chamakh, donkey dane and persie, utd fat head and mr burns, chelsea drog and le sulk. . .they also have young up and coming lads on par with ngog, ie.sturridge, welbeck, walcott, vela. .but most of all have 2 good strikers. . .we have to get another. .but the good thing hopefully about yday is as I think Cole wasnt the answer.and id rather we didn't buy than just buy for buyings sake. .Huntlaar would have been a good 1 out of who was available. . but if roy doesn't fancy him, or swaps have to be involved. then so be it. .but a striker(sorry the right striker) is needed as soon as possble . . .I need some new trainers but im not going gettng some donnay. .i'll wait till ive a bit more money and get some samba. . SMF

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:55:28
SHORT MEMORIES

All this moaning about Rafa's treatment of Alonso!

Is it any different to the treatment of Lucas and Babel by Hodgson, did he not offer the pair yesterday in a transfer swop deal for a very average English player C.Cole, only days after saying Lucas is not for sale, and Babel is definately part of his plans , and he will play as a Striker.

For all or any faults Rafa may have had , he was still Manager on the best night I have ever experienced, as a Liverpool fan, , , ISTANBUL. .

Get over it , it may have been time for a change, but lets face it we swopped a top class manager, for at best an ordinary one.

Before you argue, compare their records in the top League's i.e. England, Spain, Italy.

And no I do not consider SWEDEN or NORWAY top leagues!

What has Hodgson ever won??

rasone

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:54:19
IN RAFA WE TRUST

We missed your insight and the way you say the truth that no one want to acknowledge.
Yes Rafa team in Inter will dominate for the next few years, I expect Carra, Gerrard, Kuyt, Lucas and Torres and the rest of our super stars to join him come January. Not to forget the best assistant manager in the premier league Sami Lee , who will also join him soon

Roy

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:53:22

'
So who will our 25 squad be?

LFC4TUNE'

Unfortunately, we do not have enough players to fill the 25 man squad. (youngsters such as Kelly, Pacheco do not need to be included. We could have done with Aquilani and Insua instead of loaning them.)
The squad is:
GK - Reina, Jones*
RB - Johnson*, Darby*
CB - Carragher*, Skrtel
CB - Agger, Kyrgiakos
LB - Konchesky*, Aurelio
RM - Maxi, Kuyt
CM - Gerrard*, Meireles
CM - Lucas, Poulsen, Spearing*
LM - Jovanovic, Babel
ST - Torres, N'gog
= 24 - we can have 7 HG because we only have 24 players.

YOU SEEM TO BE FORGETTING JOE COLE! MAKES 25!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:52:10
"Actually Steve Im sat at my boring corporate job reading your boring posts. Do yourself a favour and wind your neck. . Your not a real fan, what difference would one player have made to a squad."

Not a real fan?
Season ticket holder since 1978.
Every home and away game since 1984.
You know nothing about me, but as with all 'corporate executives' you have a knowledge of everything you know nothing about.

ONE signing can make all the difference and if I was being charitable I would say that 'a real fan' would know that!

As for the others - I accept criticism, but correct your grammar and spelling before lecturing me, please.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:51:12
I am a life long liverpool fan aged 53 from liverpool not that it makes me any better than anyone else, but that's incase i get labelled a glory hunter or wooly back or whatever,
we have got to realise no one has the right to win every trophy and be the number 1, all this pointing the finger of blame has got to stop.
every football fan on earth knows the yanks are to blame, so why every other week are liverpool fans moaning about something else, to blame roy in any way over the transfer dealings is way out of order, the meralles signing will prove a great one, and koncheskey will do a good job and save agger from any more humiliation at left back, we will be ok stop moaning be patient red till dead

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:50:35
{Editor's Note: As for the money, nobody ever seems to take account of signing on fees for the free players, agents fees (I bet Col'e were not insignificant), extra wages - so nobody knows what was really available.}

How long has Christian Purslow been an editor on here.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:45:16
It would seem there will be no takeover before the end of October. This is when the loans are due. Lets hope it finally happens and the Liverpool board have taken their time and chosen the right owners this time.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:44:44
An answer. .

to this guy/ girl,

Unfortunately, we do not have enough players to fill the 25 man squad. (youngsters such as Kelly, Pacheco do not need to be included. We could have done with Aquilani and Insua instead of loaning them.)
The squad is:
GK - Reina, Jones*
RB - Johnson*, Darby*
CB - Carragher*, Skrtel
CB - Agger, Kyrgiakos
LB - Konchesky*, Aurelio
RM - Maxi, Kuyt
CM - Gerrard*, Meireles
CM - Lucas, Poulsen, Spearing*
LM - Jovanovic, Babel
ST - Torres, N'gog
= 24 - we can have 7 HG because we only have 24 players.

missed out kelly, wilson, etc and as meny reserves as you can shake a big stick at ace, the home grown rule gives a minimum amount of home grown , not an exact amount.
hope this helps
J4 96 YNWA

jasonlfc(7)

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:40:22
Come on reds. lets all get behind our team and support the boys that we have on the pitch. whether we like it or not we don't have the money of man city NO ONE DOES!

We have spent in the window, and none of us are taking on board how much cole was givin for a signing on fee. but that would have been a few bob. We do have a stronger sqaud than last season, so instead of moaning and groaning about who or should of or could have signed. lets put the effort into support our great club.

Yea the Yanks are ruining it, but they will be gone soon, and finding the right buyer is the thing we all want most, and there is no point in rushing into any deal.

all clubs within the next few years have to spend within there means. so you can only buy players and pay wages for the money you generate within your club. i.e. shirt sales etc. City will never be able to generate that sort of cash. so expect the bubble to burst and burst big.

Keep the faith reds fans we have the best support in the world so lets get behind the boys we have!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:38:26
IT'S NOT THAT BAD!
A GREAT KEEPER AND A SOLID BACK FOUR
KUYT helps JOHNSON to go up and down the wing
MEIRELES likes a shoot at goal could be the new ALONSO
GERRARD solid 10 to 20 goals again
JOVANOVIC needs time but with PK at leftback mybe he will push forward and get a few goals
COLE will get a bag full of goals from wings or uptop
LUCAS AND MAXI hands down both are good subs
BABBEL this has to be your year to shine
TORRES injury free season and more great goals

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:28:26
How quick you were to welcome Roy and dismiss the legacy of Rafa. But now Roys futile transfer dealings have exposed the fact that we have lost the worlds most adept manager and gained a plonker.
Rafa has already assembled a mighty squad at Inter we can only look on with envy as they gain all his talent. And lets show some respect to him as most our players were ready to jump ship and be re united with him yet no Rafa stayed loyal and did not plunder his old club.

If we are not carefull Torres and Kuyt will defo demand a move to Inter come January.

IN RAFA WE TRUST


ARE YOU COMPLETELY OFF YOUR FACE!
if torres signs for inter while rafa is there i will eat your crusty underwear. RAFA HAD CLEARLY LOST THE SUPPORT OF TORRES AND GERRARD! its rafas average signings over the last 6 years that have got us in this position. sold baros, sold crouch, sold keane, they werent superstars but they would be very handy back ups now and he never replaced them, as well as signing rubbish like lucas, lets not forget his treatment of alonso. if rafa was still there the club would be so far up sh*t creek there would be no return and torres would be at chelsea and gerrard probably sunning it up in spain, get out of rafas arse, hes gone and thank god for that, start showing some support to what we have

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:28:12
01 Sep 2010 11:12:44
TO THE JUDAS BRIGADE

How quick you were to welcome Roy and dismiss the legacy of Rafa. But now Roys futile transfer dealings have exposed the fact that we have lost the worlds most adept manager and gained a plonker.
Rafa has already assembled a mighty squad at Inter we can only look on with envy as they gain all his talent. And lets show some respect to him as most our players were ready to jump ship and be re united with him yet no Rafa stayed loyal and did not plunder his old club.

If we are not carefull Torres and Kuyt will defo demand a move to Inter come January.

IN RAFA WE TRUST

Rafa has already assembled a mighty squad at Inter WTF you mean rafa came in after JOSE assembled a mighty squad he played against A.Madrid lost first game of the season drew great start he is off to ill give rafa till x mas an he will get the boot

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:21:52
Well if i was a spurs fan i would be happy wi the VDV signing cause that's all they need if that does go true i think we should get bently on loan

I disagree mate Spurs needed to buy at lest one centre half and not another midfielder. The only reason they bought VDV was because of the price he was available for which was 8 mill according to Harry Rednapp which was to good to turn down and he was right.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:19:08
It's not all bad. . . .

THEY'R NEARLY BACK IN SCHOOL! !

There are no hidden agenda's , and no signings under the radar. . all along we have been told accordingly, by Roy himself. ."we have room for one more striker, but it will be hard, we will try, but it's very difficult" (roy's words).
But we all had a sneaky feeling that roy was just being cautious, and keeping things quiet.
couple of facts. .
We saw on deadline day as we were watching ssn etc, clubs who were loosing players to other teams were all adding this and that to the deal last min, asamoah gyan, eider gudjohnson, etc etc etc, we got the mascherano money way too late to be really effective in the transfer window, the fact that we managed to pull off the mereiles transfer was roy's best bit of business to date after the retention of torres and gerrad.(so much for the naysayers who keep touting were being asset striped).
As soon as the Cole rumour broke, this site was awash with people displaying there disgust @ this option, then when that deal broke down and 6pm came around, it's all "roy's a fool, wtf is he doing, etc etc etc".
I'll tell you what he has done. . .
he has improved our squad a lot, from last season, just think back to some of the sub's we had last year, if the squad had lucas , masch, and gerrard in, our bench had dalla vella, el zhar, aqualani (injured and unfit) etc, this season we can use aurellio sparingly without the wory of the whole defence being reshaped mid match, we have like for like replacements on the wing, with jovanavic, cole , kuyt, (aurellio can play there-after all he not great @ defence), with the fringe players getting a chance to shine, in europe and carling cup, up front, pecheco, will get more of a chance(something you were all begging for ), we have excellent cover @ center back with the option to use carra as right back or left back, FACTUALLY our squad is so much stronger than the past 2 seasons.
Now i'll just mention a few things we did not do. .
1.Panic and pay 20m for a crocked footballer who won't play til january.
2.have the board buy a striker without consulting the manager, so we won't loose 6m+wages in the space of 5months (robbie keane anyone).
3.sign a player we won't get until end of january or even the season.

I refuse to believe it's just me who can see that, whilst the takeover is going, AS WE WERE TOLD. .until mid august even into october.(again not being rushed-thank god this time, anyone remember the " You only sell the family silverware once" comment? ? well we sold the family silverware to CASHCONVERTERS)we are getting stronger as a unit, albeit, that the first squad has not changed much, our bench is more solid, we have a manager that the players Enjoy working with, oh and no matter what fund's are available from new owners, in the future, we have @ least 15m in reserve for januarys transfer window.

Now this is no M.citeh type building (thank god- effectively citeh have changed most of their squad 4 times in the last 3 seasons(sven-and the maxicans, hughes and the arsenal, and now the itie with anyone who's expensive))

THIS IS GOOD NEWS AT A MAJOR POINT IN LIVERPOOLS HISTORY. . FRANKLY I'M MADE UP WE HAVE ROY IN CHARGE. IF THE CLUB WAS RUN BY SOME OF THE POSTERS ON HERE, WE'D BE AWAY TO TRANMERE IN TWO SEASONS.

KEEP THE FAITH GUY'S, N GIRLS

J4 96 YNWA

jasonlfc(7)

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:15:09
Woy is gonna need a miracle to finish in the top 4 we needed a striker wide man none happened jans gonna be busy YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:13:38
Why all this negativity. Yes it would have been the icing on the cake if we could have signed a top class striker, but we need to be realistic. Shanks did not build his empire in a summer. Given that Roy's budget was spend what you generate, once we take in to account the cost of compensation for Rafa and Roy this is exactly what Roy did. Given these restrictions I think Roy has done very well. With limited funds Roy cannot solve all our problems in a summer. We will play differently under him with a more attacking formations at home and players like Babel played in their correct positions or not at all. This in itself will improve our results. Roy has also got rid of a load of players who were unable to make the grade. With the exception of Mascherano all the players who have left were despite ample opportunity unable to forge a guaranteed spot for themselves in the first team. As for Mascherano he wanted out and despite a reduced fee Roy has spent this sum wisely on Meireles and Pouslon, both of whom are as capable as Mascherano defensively and offer a more potent attacking game. Poulsen is far better than many think. Mereless has been quietly added and he is a £20m+ player who we got for £11m because he was in the final year of his Porto contract. This is a great piece of business, no one saw it coming. The free signing of J Cole was also a great piece of business . Whilst we would all have liked a new striker, Jovanovic has a terrific record in Belgium and IMO he is more than capable of playing up front which is his preferred position. He has the pace, strength, touch and desire to succeed in the premiership. Kuyt and Babel can also play up front if required. Konchesky is a very steady performer and although he has arrived without much excitement he will solve our left back crisis of last season. He will be our left back equivalent of Steve Finnan. We have also signed Wilson and Shelvey who both have the potential to be first team players. Pacheco and Kelly have shown that they have the guile to play for the first team. A year away from the champions league could even be blessing in disguise. It will mean Roy using his best 11 in every premiership players and there will still be plenty of games available in the less demanding Europa Cup to give Pacheco, Kely, Shelvey and Wilson first team experience. Between now and the January transfer window we can all also expect new owners news. Roy has proved that he is a good man manger and that he can get the best out of players. Reality Red

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:07:42
Hi ed, i bet you've got some sort of hangover from yesterday. lol

Anyway, on the rumour pages you have "believable" and "unbelievable" buttons but on the banter pages you don't have them.
So how about have "agree" and "disagree" buttons on the banter pages?

harry5 {editor's note - good idea mate, I will look into it.}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 12:03:21
Pablo,

Your post is extremely optimistic but I think you miss the point slightly.

Yes, some of the players brought in are better than those previously, however, are the likes of Konchesky, Poulson and Jovanovic the standard of player Liverpool should be interested in?

Personally I don't. Yes we may on a player by player basis have improved but we are still miles short in terms of being able to compete with the quality sides of the Premier League.

Liverpool have had to re-assess their situation based on finance and appear to have concluded that only decent, Premier League players can now be attracted to the club. These signings are intended to consolidate a Europa League position whilst the issues surrounding the takeover are addressed. It is now unreasonable for fans to expect what has been expected of Liverpool in previous seasons.

My belief is that Roy Hodgson has been brought in as he has a good reputation for working within tight constraints and getting the best out of a mediocre bunch. It'll be interesting to see (if Liverpool ever gets sold) whether new, wealthy owners see him as the ideal candidate to take Liverpool back to the top.

The transfer of Joe Cole proves that despite Liverpool finishing 7th last term and having no Champions League, we are still Liverpool, one of the most decorated and respected teams in World football. Reputations don't die over the course of one season and it's refreshing to see playes like Joe Cole realise this. If we have the money, we can continue to attract the biggest names as we are still one of the biggest clubs. Get the ownership sorted and we'll be back in no time.

PACMAN

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:59:14
This is not a rumour, just some thoughts. .

first of all, at least 95% people here don't post rumours, just rubbish and their wishes from playstation, so get over it

second, i think LFC did bad on transfer market this summer like previous years also, expect signing of Raul Meireles

the last past years transfer policy was really bad:

Rafa sold Riise for one mistake, then we want him back
we sold crazy Bellamy, but he was kickin' at City (not only other players lol)
we sold Crouch, and now we want him back
and the worst signing ever, Keano, with all due respect
we sold Yossi, who was one of our best players the last 2 years, and get J. Cole who even didn't play much
we sold Alonso, and get who?!?!

stupid Rafa ruined LFC, take over youth team and didn't play noone

if Pacheco is so good, why don't Roy force him now

too much dead wood in our team

Roy could put some bids for Kranjcar and/ or Bentley since they both aren't in first plan

i understand that Roy tried to sign Mladen Petric from HSV, but apparently didn't offer enough -> and i would definitely would like to see him in red

we need at least 4-5 good new players, otherwise 7th place is what you can expect. . sorry, but i'm just realistic

cheers

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:56:58
Weak. I had a feeling we wouldn't get anyone on deadline day, but not to worry im happy we now have a load of english players at least, and young suso was being heavily praised as a future don a few weeks back. Oh yeah and konchesky is a really solid player, hes not just there for the quota. Anyway, i thought id draw attention to the fact that we held back konchesky's signing til deadline day - presumably because the owners had no intention of getting anyone and just wanted a deadline day 'gift' to supplicate the fans. At the start of the transfer window, someone said that there were NO prospective buyers and it was all a show for the public to highlight the fact the yanks werent going to invest anything. . . Ive not heard any feasible takeover rumours, and we have clearly worked at a deficit this window, so im starting to think this is all a massive pr coup to deflect our attention away from the fact no-one is going to rescue us while the yanks insist on pretty much doubling their money. Anyway my reason for posting is this - with the new financial rules coming in next season, teams will only be able to spend what they earn plus 15mil from the owners. . so how the hell are city going to cover their wage bills? 100,000 a week is 5.2 million a year, and they must have 4 or 5 of these by now. So either my maths is bad (which is true) or they are gonna have to drop their wage bill dramatically. If this is the case, surely liverpool is a very attractive investment as we have massive worldwide incomings, so next year city won't be allowed to spend anywhere near what we can if we don't have the debt payments. Am i just being optimistic or is this actually the case does anyone know? Duckula

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:44:08

ED, I was disappointed to see Dalla Valle leave Liverpool. Do you know if Liverpool have a buy-back clause and first option with him when he signed for Fulham? Also ED, do you reckon this will be a big loss for Liverpool in the long-term as he was only 18 and scored lots of goals in the Youth Cup and Reserves? Cheers. {editor's note - I am disappointed too, but the feeling is that he lacked the pace to make it as a top level striker, and, as far as I can find out, there is no buy back or first option clause. But I wouldn't be surprised if one or both have been included, it would make good sense to include them just in case.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:39:18
Ed, looks like the sale of LFC will be in October. If RBS take over & sell us to cover the debts, will we get punished i.e. Fine or points deduction?

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:36:55

Steve Parker, now your moaning that somebody has a dog and wears sports clothes, is there no end to your constant moaning? I'm loosing the will to live after reading your posts! ! !

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:35:15
Steve Parker

Actually Steve Im sat at my boring corporate job reading your boring posts. Do yourself a favour and wind your neck. . Your not a real fan, what difference would one player have made to a squad. In my opinion it would be extremely limited as to what impact even a marquee signing would have for a number of reasons. We need several world class players and not just one that we rush through just to satisfy the likes of you!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:35:12
Any available EPL strikers in our price range were not good enough for LFC (eg Cole). Foreign strikers were either out of our price range, too much of a gamble or unproven. We simply didn't have the cash to bid or buy the class of striker that would have pleased any of you anyway, so quit with the mind-numbing moaning and gear up for a strong season - LIVERPRES

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:29:41

{ed's note - I edit all the sites and the same moaning is coming from every single team's fans. I just think fans are never happy, they always think they could do better, they don't realise how difficult a job it is signing players.}

well if i was a spurs fan i would be happy wi the VDV signing cause that's all they need if that does go true i think we should get bently on loan

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:27:43

Hi guys just a point id like everyone's opinion on . . . it concerns babel . when he first signed i was delighted having watched him star for for holland obviously i thought he would be eased into the which never really happened , clearly rafa didn't rate him and i was of the opinion that rafas management style didn't suit ryan that he needed the arm around the shoulder approach now roy has come in i thought this is when we are going to see the best from ryan. but i am beginning to wonder if it was ryans attitude was behind his poor career thus far as roy was desparately trying to offload him yesterday im sure those events are going to hit ryans confidence as the new manager clearly doesn't rate him.
anyway guys what ye think are we ever going to see the player that we all know he can be
YNWA

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:21:24

"01 Sep 2010 11:04:16
Steve Parker - Just shut up, it is moaning, its not interesting and your opinion just does matter."

Well thank you for the personal abuse.
I am sorry you had to interrupt your morning - washing your pitbull terrier and selecting something to wear today from your JJB wardrobe.

My opinion does matter and nice of you to say that.

Everyone's opinions matter as the club is built on that foundation.

It is interesting because the fans want to know about team signings and selection.

Good luck at the chippy at lunchtime and don't get any dog crap on your new Nikes!

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:12:44
TO THE JUDAS BRIGADE

How quick you were to welcome Roy and dismiss the legacy of Rafa. But now Roys futile transfer dealings have exposed the fact that we have lost the worlds most adept manager and gained a plonker.
Rafa has already assembled a mighty squad at Inter we can only look on with envy as they gain all his talent. And lets show some respect to him as most our players were ready to jump ship and be re united with him yet no Rafa stayed loyal and did not plunder his old club.

If we are not carefull Torres and Kuyt will defo demand a move to Inter come January.

IN RAFA WE TRUST

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:05:25

What the f went on yesturday, king kenny who is a f*ckin legend of the pool recomended turan and we did f*ck all about it, gomez looked like a real possibility and did f*ck all about it, carlton cole look like it was on and did f*ck all about it , now people are saying well get the right stricker in jan tran, but wat 4 example if wer not sold by then and wer mid table wit no chance of any silverwere hmm?all because we hav no back up 4 torroes, ngog, and babel hm? i am a life long supporter and pissed fu*kin off

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:04:22
Daniel Pacheco need first team chance, if you agree with me click bel.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 11:04:16
Steve Parker - Just shut up, it is moaning, its not interesting and your opinion just does matter.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:51:05
We needed a striker and or a winger(if we bought a striker babel could stay wing, if we bought a winger babel upfront, if we bought both bye babel) and 2day i was really hoping to sell lucas, but we didn't do ny of the above that is gutting for every fan.

Well done 'woy

ROUND ROBBEN

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:41:49
Unsigned noted at 01 Sep 2010 10:16:54"

"Torres says in spanish news
Hopefully we can find a consortium that buys the club and can make Liverpool able to fight financially with Chelsea and United. .

why didn't he say owner? why say consortium?
. coz if you think about it , its harder to say consortium in spanish. .SMF . . . I'll wait."

Torres was asked a series of very loaded questions so I would not read too much in to any of the translated responses.

Sharkey.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:33:58
Not too happy with postings that tell people to stop "whingeing" and "crying" - we pay to support and are entitled to complain!

NO team (say again - NO team) in the history of the Premier League and before that, has ever won the title without scoring lots of goals.
Strikers score the bulkof those goals, supported by attacking midfielers, wingers, penalties, free-kicks and own goals.
To score you need someone up front!

You CAN NOT win the title by having a rock solid defence and then NOT scoring EVERY game, even if it is only one goal!

If that were the case, then formations could be 5-5-0!
Then you hope a midfielder gets forward and slots one in.

I still feel we are hiding from the truth here guys.
Forget the financial restrictions - we and the staff knew that before they signed deals.
We know it is hard to find quality - but we STILL need a striker!

Don't suggest that we need to give Roy more time.
Don't say that he needs time to bed in and develop what we have.
If you read these pages, we have been excited for weeks now about Roy and our chances this year.
Those chances have slipped way back now.

Yes - give people time and they will work well under Roy.
But it won't keep us in the top three and we won't keep hold of Torres as we do that.

That is not moaning or crying, it's just a factual comment.

The state of the club's management, its finances and instability was not a shock to Roy when he signed the contract.
We (the fans knew about it) and we hoped he would come in and work fast to stabilise us.

He as at the back.
He has flooded us with midfielders that will do well, but we have FAILED (for that is what it is) FAILED to grab a front-runner to score and take the weight off, support and stand in for Torres and Ngog.

That is NOT maonaing.
This is reality and not a nice one at that!

Steve Parker

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:22:36
Liverpool will have to sign a new striker in January. not to support Torres but to replace him.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:22:07

A Pre-season of improvements! ! !

Looking at the facts, there has been an overall improvement from last year for the follwing reasons:-

Konchesky is better than Insua
Kelly is better than Deggen
Jones is better than Cavilleri
Jovanavic is slightly better than an on-form Riera, (although these days were few and far between, and also remember he slagged the club off), / Benayoun (when on the left)
Meriles is better than a sulking Masch
Poulsen is better than last season's first team choice Lucas
Gerrard is better playing in midfield than being messed around last season playing in no-man's-land
Cole is better than, well we didn't really have anyone else up front in his position
Ngog is a better player for LFC being able to come off the bench as an impact player, however I still feel a year's loan abroad would do him the world of good

We have more depth to our squad than last season, with good young players able to come in on an infrequent basis. Quite frankly having Lucas as our 1st choice CM and having El Zahar on the bech as a "game-changer", it couldn't have been worse

Pablo

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:16:54

Torres says in spanish news
Hopefully we can find a consortium that buys the club and can make Liverpool able to fight financially with Chelsea and United. .

why didn't he say owner? why say consortium?
. coz if you think about it , its harder to say consortium in spanish. .SMF . . . I'll wait.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:16:40

I thought i would put a comment here as I love coming on this site and reading all LFC supporters rumours and fairy tale stories, but now the window is closed you all sound like a bunch of crying little babies.

So we didn't spend big on players but did any of you really think we were going to with the Yanks in charge? We have a team which i feel will be up there, once RH gets his methods across! We are known worldwide for the way we support our club but if people came on here in the last day or so they would just think we are a bunch of whinging tw*ts!

I support Liverpool Football Club in the best of times and in the worst of times! So some of you should stop moaning and get behind the team!

LFC420 {ed's note - I edit all the sites and the same moaning is coming from every single team's fans. I just think fans are never happy, they always think they could do better, they don't realise how difficult a job it is signing players.}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:15:42

I would just like to point out a couple of things to my fellow supporters on this site.

Personally I think we have done really well in this window, we have sold/ loaned a raft of players trimmed the wage bill (BIG TIME) got rid of a load of (Dead Wood) as people call it and have a stronger team for it. We have bought a left back/ attacking mid/ def mid all positions which needed to be filled. We have spent around £20 mill this window and before people say yes but we got a load of money from sales IE : Masch and so on, do you think Barca just gave us a cheque for £18 mill, sorry to dissapoint you it does not work like that these days they call it (INSTALLMENTS). As for the current owners as much as everyone hates them I know there was supposed to be £15 mill to spend plus sales but I think everyone is forgetting one thing here. Why would you pump more money into a club if you are selling it that's like me advertising my car for say £4000 I know its worth that because that's what the book says but maybe if I put on some new alloy wheels on it that would cost me say £1500 I might get a bit more for my car (come on people) aint gonna happen also remeber when Roy came in and Raffa went compensation had to be paid both ways. In my opinion for what it is worth there will be no more players coming in until Jan so I emplore all the true fans on this site to get behind the team and Roy and stop all this negativity and bulls* t and stop posting all your crap.

PS : Ed your thoughts please. {ed's note - I agree mate, Roy needs time to work with the players and get them playing the way he wants.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:13:28
At the risk of offending the Editor, I feel I have to make another comment following on from my lengthy one a little earlier.

You (Editor) said there was probbaly no-one of quality out there.
I can accept that - but that still means we are short of a striker.

EVEN a poor Carlton Cole or a loan striker would have given us a chance.

Someone has just written about being also-rans by Christmas.
I am so unhappy about that comment becuase it rings so true.

There is more to this episode than meets they eye.
TRUTH IS - we are now hunting for sixth and no higher.
Bye bye Torres and maybe a couple more come the January window.

What started out as a bright and promising new adventure only a few weeks ago, has turned into the same old - same old struggle of the past two years. {ed's note - no offence taken mate, can't have an interesting discussion without disagreement. But I feel I mustn't have worded myself properly, I meant no one of quality out there within our budget. We had a number of positions in desperate need of strengthening but only limited money to do so. Priority, rightly so in my opinion, was given to a left back, good managers always sort out the defence first.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:10:45
In reply to Jamseyboy.

Good post mate but just a few things to clear up,

Benitez was the manager that sold Beneyoun not Hodgeson. When Roy got the job he said that the deal had already been concluded and there was nothing he could do about it, I don't know how true this is but that's what he said in a statement. The other point to up is the Aqualani deal, I agree with you, the player gets playing time and gets back to his best and comes back to us, however I believe that the deal may have an option to buy at the end, which in all fairness Liverpool can turn down, but to add to it Aqualani released a statement saying that he hopes to make the deal permanent next year. I personally don't think we will see him back in a Liverpool shirt unfortunately, but I suppose Liverpool hold all the cards hear. I Think a good season at Juve may just drive up his price, hopefully I'm wrong but if Roy rated him I don't think he would of let him go, I think he did it to free up wages for Mirelles (spelling) as he rated him more and fits into the system(s) he has in mind.

Good post though mate.

Bob Loblaw

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 10:00:24
Where's the striker that so badly needed as either (i) backup to Torres or (ii) will play up along side him - lets hope that he can stay fighting fit because there is no viable goal scoring alternative from what I can see

Couldn't even manage a couple of loan deals at the death or the intelligence in the transfer market to pick up the likes of VdV at €8m (looks like spurs have bagged a bargain)

Wish Waldorf & Stadlier (2 old guys from the Muppet show) would sell up and get out of town so that our great football club can return to normailty and we can challenge year in year out for the PL title and not be just also rans by Xmas

 

 

01 Sep 2010 09:56:01
01 Sep 2010 09:38:28
I was just thinking after yesterdays disastrous showing what if all of a sudden new owners appear in the beginning of september . . won't that seem strange after the window has shut! sounds to me that any new owner did not want to spend any money either just to give the message to the fans we aint no man city or chelsea spenders . . . . . . . . . . .oh dear sad times ahead . .hello championship . .

Yet another bell end that should stick to the London forums!

Kopite70

 

 

01 Sep 2010 09:55:28
Am i the only 1 on here that feels rh is not doing hes job he had the money and does what buys a lb who i don't rate come on liverpool pull your selfs together or we be laughing stock again

 

 

01 Sep 2010 09:51:57
If Liverpool has signed anyone & have not yet made it known, I am sure we will find out today as the squads have to be handed in today for the EPL

Enjoy

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 09:45:02
In reply to Matt YNWA


Think youre right mate apart from chelsea. Last Season Abromovich cleared there debt, I remeber because SSN broke a story about chelsea making a loss of 237 million or something like that but in the same report they also read out a statement from abromovich saying that in order to comply with new fifa ruling chelsea have cleared the debt on the club which is why the accounts report for that year showed the massive loss. If they are in debt it must be new debt accumilated this year but I can't see whear unless they have done work to their ground or chelsea village.

Your right about everyone else though.

I think tottenham might of got the bargain of the century if they pull VDV though, would of loved him at Liverpool and for 8 mil.

Bob Loblaw

 

 

01 Sep 2010 09:39:52

How is it so glaringly obvious to me and 99.9% of Liverpool fans that we need another striker and not to Hodgeson? He had all summer to sign one as back up and now if Torres is injured we are screwed. Look at the other top teams in the league and look at us. I'm no manager but I would have signed a striker first and foremost after last season.

UTD - ROONEY, BERBATOV, OWEN, HERNANDEZ, MACHEDA
Chelsea - ANELKA, DROGBA, KAKOUTA, BORINI, STURRIDGE
ARESNAL - VAN PERSIE, ASHAVIN, CHAMAKH, WALCOTT, VELA, BENDTNAR
SPURS - CROUCH, KEANE, DEFOE, PAVLYUCHENKO
CITY - TEVEZ - ADEBAYOR - SANTA CRUZ, BALLOTELLI, JO, OTHERS
LIVERPOOL - TORRES, NGOG?, PACHECO?

I'm well pissed off. ITS OBVIOUS! for god sake, even if it was a stop-gap loan or something. If Torres gets injured we can't score. I can't believe it. NGOG isn't good enough and Pacheco isn't ready. LOOK at the other teams Roy.

I want to get behind you Roy but I think you just made your first massive mistake. Why wait til the last few hours to make bids? what a silly risk. If I was in charge we would have had a quality striker as back-up. Even Cisse would have been better than what we have and I think he would've played for free. There has to be a loan coming in, ther has to be. I still can't believe it!

ANGRY

Gazman

 

 

01 Sep 2010 09:38:28
I was just thinking after yesterdays disastrous showing what if all of a sudden new owners appear in the beginning of september . . won't that seem strange after the window has shut! sounds to me that any new owner did not want to spend any money either just to give the message to the fans we aint no man city or chelsea spenders . . . . . . . . . . .oh dear sad times ahead . .hello championship . .

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 09:13:23

Dose of reality has been administered.
The failure (for that it was it is) to sign a forward is as much a criticism of our own actions as it is of the system of transfer windows.

We have known for a number of weeks (since Roy Hodgson was appointed) that there would be a need for a new striker. The uncertaintly of Torres' commitment to the club and the lack of back-up in that role was evident to all. To now be looking back at a failure to sign another striker is not a pleasing situation.

As Spurs wriggle and suggest the web servers they were using were to blame (is this just about the most laughable excuse ever?) for their failure to sign van der Vaart: something they will achieve and it will because the FA/ Premier League are too weak to control the clubs, I ask why we didn't sign him?

*I believe Roy Hodgson will be an excellent manager for us.
*I suspect he will lead us to a promising future.
*I also think his man management skills are to be lauded.
* BUT - why did we not conclude a deal for a striker sooner?

I suspect this is something of a mixture of disasters here.
*A failure to bargain/ negotiate and work sooner rather than later.
*A lack of 'real' funds available despite the inevitability of the Mascherano money coming in.
*Possibly a lack of real guile and decisive talking from Christian Purslow?
*Is this a Rick Parry situation in the making?

I want to know why we were unable to buy one of the following:
*Loic Remy
*Artem Milevsky
*Rafael van der Vaart
*Carlton Cole
*Jean Pierre Gignac
. . . and a host of other strikers that were being touted as possibles during the past month alone!

Don't just read this and say, "Well they weren't available, " or "Roy didn't fancy him . ."
We have missed out on at least two top-rated strikers that we could have had and as supporters, we are due an explanation.

We go into the first month of the season with Torres (not quite fully fit), Kuyt (not an out and out striker the way we have played him), Ngog (currently carrying a slight injury), Pacheco (young, willing and a prospect) and Jovanovic and Babel who are seen mainly as wider men.

WHY do we not have another striker after four weeks of a transfer window?

I am NOT interested in hearing about how hard it is, how difficult it can be and how long it takes to conclude such deals.
We have had 29 days (just the Transfer Window) and more beforehand to work out who we wanted and plot/ plan for that buy!

No doubt there will be many reading this that will shrug and say I am talking nonsense.
I dismiss those suggestions.
We go into the season about the same (maybe even a little weaker) up front as we eneded last year's miserable campaign.

Football management is not rocket science.
There are certain managers who are labelled 'genius' and 'brilliant' and other words only Alan Hansen uses about everyday actions, but it is relatively speaking, a simple task.
Buying a striker for so many millions is not that hard is it?
The fans can suggest people, so why did we not buy one?
Roy and his staff have had a month to work out who they wanted and if he would fit in.
What is all this last minute panic buying?

WHY did we (LFC) not say a month ago - "we need another striker" (we did).
THEN why did we not target a number of those potential strikers (I'm sure we did).
SO - why did we not engineer, persuade and manage to buy one?

If Torres pulls a hamstring, tweaks an ankle and is out for a three week run, who replaces him?
Ngog is injured at present and so who comes in?

We are flooded with midfielders, but apart from Steve Gerrard, few of them will perform as out and out strikers.

For a massive club (because we keep banging on and telling everyone in the world we are that - and as a fan of 49 years standing I still think we are) we are shamed by our inability to buy a striker.

We have spent around £25 million (?) recently and yet we do not have a striker that could have been bought for around half that sum.
Even a poor Carlton Cole would have given us that extra insurance.

As fans we are not entitled to any explanation by our clubs, or so it always seems.
On this matter, I would like to know why we have wasted money on defensive midfielders and failed to buy a striker.
We may still finish in the top six, but without firepower we will not get into the top three.

Editor: I would be interested in your comments as well as those of other disgruntled fans on this issue. {ed's note - personally I think the problem came down to quality. Roy was looking for a top class striker on the cheap, there just wasn't one available. So then the club turns towards players who are prospects, again clubs wanted ridiculous money for them. That is why we had the club suddenly trying to make panic moves for players like Carlton Cole, who a week ago wasn't seen as good enough by the management. I am not too disheartened myself, we had this same problem last season, but now Ngog has some more experience and we have a manager that might even give Pacheco a chance.}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 09:09:45
I think its s* t what they done t ryan babel yesterday the club should be ashamed of treating a player like that and t put on top of it we were trying to buy a second rate striker in cole that's no better than babel

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 08:47:24
I was reading this page last night. I could not believe what I was seeing! There was the odd clever person and the Editor, who knew what they were on about. However, the majority of the people posting were so stupid!

I quote " such a bad transfer window! ". Ridiculous.
Roy had no money to spend. At first I thought Jovanovic looked quite good, I can now see he isn't. But then again he was signed by Rafa! Jonjo Shelvey, I watched him in pre-season against Kaiserslauten, he looked no better than a league 1 player. Maybe it was an off day, but he was also signed by Mr. Benitez. Roy arrived, sold Benayoun. 6 million for a 30 year old Isrealian! Great money! Another 5 million for Albert Riera, good at times but inconsistent mainly! Joe Cole. Has been so unlucky since joining. A missed penalty and a red card. He has looked a great player though and on a free, one of the coups of the summer! Danny Wilson, haven't seen him play for us yet, but saw him for Rangers last season, looked fantastic! Alberto Aquilani, I think this could be one of the best moves of the summer for Juve and us! Juve get a great player for the season for free who has showed signs towards the end of last season and in pre-season of being a excellent player. He will be able to extend his skills even further by having regular first team football in his home nation at a top team. He will come back to us fresher, better and hopefully more physically able ready to compete next season. Roy brought in Brad Jones, a good signing, a very good keeper who would be ready to step up if Reina was injured or sold. Diego Cavalieri shortly left, he didn't look good enough for the PL. Jones was brought for 2.5million. Cavalieri sold for 2.5million. Mr.Konchesky is a great signing! PL experience, English, Europa league experience and a very small price. Raul Meireles looks another great buy. European and international experience. Javier Mascherano. 20million for a player who hated the English culture, always got pointless bookings, couldn't pass a ball and never scored. Meireles scores, passes, makes GOOD tackles.

That 20million from Masch people keep on banging on about has gone to future wages, transfer installments etc.

Still a chance we might get some loanees. Ed any idea who it may be?

Jamseyboy.
{Editor's note - I doubt we will get anybody else}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 08:47:19
Our team for next year

Reina

Johnson
carragher
agger
konchesky

jovanovic
gerrard
meireles
kuyt

cole

torres

bench:
jones
aurelio
skrtel
maxi
babel
poulsen
Lucas

Now with a bench like this one there I so much depth that any of these substitutes can change a game

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 08:43:34
You see people should not worry any more I am sure that Roy hodgson has got it all sorted out. Look we can play babel up front or even young danny pacheco also kuyt and jovanovic can play there with maxi filling in on the wings. We now have a more stronger and better squad with more depth and lots more attacking options on the bench. There is no need to worry we will easilly get top 4 in Roy we trust

 

 

01 Sep 2010 08:39:14
Ref Matt YNWA and the clubs in debt etc; firstly do you know how much Man U spent this window (without moving anyone on)? Smalling 10m, Henandez 7m, Bebe 7m - this on top of a big squad.

Have you seen how many first team/ fringe players have joined and left our club in the last 3 transfer windows:

Sold Summer 2009: Hypia, Pennant (both free), Alonso (30m), Arobeloa (undisclosed - thought to be 3.5m), Leto (2m), Hobbs, Anderson, Hamill (all undisclosed but probably brought in approx 2m between the three).

Bought Summer 2009: Johnson (17m), Aquilani (17m), The greek (2m - only bought due to injuries to the other three CB's).

Sold Winter 2010: Vorinin (1.9m), Dossena (4.5m).

Bought Winter 2010: Maxi free (signing on fee may have been 1.5m).

2009 - 2010 net first tem players change = (10 left) - (4 in) = 6 less players.


Sold Summer 2010: Mascherono (17.5m + add ons), Benny (6m), Reira (3.5m), Nemeth (1.5m), Plessis (undisclosed), San Jose (2.6m), Cavalieri (2.5m), dalla Valle and Kacaniklic (although could argue these arent first team/ fringe players).

Left on Loan Summer 2010: Degan, Insua, Aqualini, El Zhar.

Bought Summer 2010: Cole, Jovonavic (both free), Poulsen 4.5m, Konchesky (4m), Jones (2.3m), Wilson (2m), Shelvey (1.7m), Meireles (10.7m).

2010 - 2011 net first tem players change (including loans as these are option to buy at end of loan) = (13 left) - (8 in) = 6 less players.

Total 12 less first team players over 1.5 seasons; also with transfer fees alone (I appreciate agent fee's and taxes etc. have to be considered but as these are not available then I have not included them) then net transfer spend is negative by approx 14m (i.e. the board haven't invested any money in new players in the last 1.5 seasons - this doesn't include the Robbie keane sale either).

I'm not saying quantity over quality or that the squad in terms of players was too great but I do not see us as a team going forwards with these restrictions.

Remember last year (prior to maxi joining) when Benny, reira, Gerrard, babel and aqualini were out injured we struggled against teams to create anything. Look at the team now and tell me where the creativity is should J Cole and Gerrard be injured.

Where are the goals if Torres gets injured?

In terms of debt what did the Yanks say to us when they bought us? No debt on the club so whilst I appreciate we are in debt as they have pilled this on us we as a club will always have to over achieve to get to the champions league.

Wait till later today and they announce the 25 man over 21 squad - Liverpool will only name approx 21 players - Shelvey, Kelly, Darby or Pacheco will have to be named as the eighth home grown player as we don't have anyone else to name.

Until new owners are found it is doom and gloom - won't stop me supporting the team till the end but don't believe anythign coming from the board and from Woy (nothing against Woy just I think he goes to the board to say - can I have a new striker they say yes, he says "I want that one" they say oooo can't you choose a cheaper one; and so it goes on - if we enquired about C Cole on Sunday after the game why are we still haggling at 6pm Tuesday?)

rant over

Hoola

 

 

01 Sep 2010 08:20:25
SSN have reported that Santa Cruz has been told he will not be part of their squad. Is there no chance of pulling him in on loan now Ed? I know City won't want to give us him but if he's just sat every week on his arse surely its better for all that he can go somewhere an get games?

Spriggo
{Editor's note - I think you can still loan players}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 08:11:58

Just because we have signed nobody on deadline day does not mean a thing apart from there was nobody that Roy felt would improve the team for the money he had available, thanks to the thieving, treacherous septic tanks.
Keep the faith that a takeover will happen and funding will be available from the new owners, Roy will spend wisely and bring back the glory years.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 08:09:09
I beleive last minutes C.Cole bids failed for good. I don't think Cole is far more better then Babel. Babel should be given a chance to prove his capability. Cole's ratio 6 games 1 goal is totally can't help Torres by scoring goals. . Anyway just waithing for Liverpool takeover and can't wait to see F* kin Yanks out of LFC. YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2010 07:53:43
I hope so much that these rumours about RBS forcing the sale are true. Despite making some money available for singings, it is clear to me that the owners did it only in an attempt to maintain the value of the "franchise" (hate this word) and not to improve the LFC. As it stands, we have a squad to be in top six come January and hopefully not to far away from the 4th spot. Then, with new owners, we need to replace Ngog (st), Lucas (cm), Kuyt (rm) and Babel (lm) with quality (approx 30 milion each) players to see us finish season in top four. It's a great web site, by the way. Thank you Ed.
Red Herring
{Editor's note - So you want to buy success, that is not the true liverpool way}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 07:43:37
G&H have made £17.1M profit on transfer dealings in 2010, and the substantial transfer budget £12M to £15M appears to have gone missing again.


taken from scousenotenglish
YANKS OUT!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 07:27:34
Squad of 25

25)Reina
1) Jones HG

2)Johnson HG
23) Carragher HG
37) Skrtel
5) Agger
16) Kyrgiakos
3) Konchesky HG
6) Aurelio

4) Meireles
21) Lucas
28) Poulsen
8) Gerrard Hg
10) Cole HG
19) Babel
18) Kuyt
17) Maxi
14) Jovanovic

9) Torres

that's not even 25, I know, but it just shows the sorry state of our squad

U21

24) N'Gog
34) Kelly HG
32) Darby HG
33) Shelvey HG
39) Eccleston HG
46) Amoo HG
42) Gulasci
26) Spaering
22) Wilson

 

 

01 Sep 2010 07:26:18

01 Sep 2010 00:32:14
Pssst. Okay here we go. The players were introduced to kenny huang at anfield on 23rd July and were informed of the big plans for the future. As the meeting was done with h+g blessing the players were convinced that the club was moving forward they even gave huang signed shirts etc. It has since been revealed that huang was working for h+g in an attempt to start a bidding war along with the Kirdi interest. As you can imagine the senior players are not happy and are all prepared to leave in January.

Brilliant. . you get the award for being the biggest nob on this site. . .and what is worse is you didn't even put your name to it!

Kopite70

 

 

01 Sep 2010 06:53:11
SHAME, SHAME ON US ALL!

We all sounded like NEWCASTLE FANS on T.D.L.D, we will sign him or him or him all lies with a hint of envy.For the time being it is what it is.So its time to button up, and face that strom and walk on and Y.N.W.A

TOP 4 CUM ON!

REDMAN

 

 

01 Sep 2010 06:08:59
The team is weaker than last season. All we have is 2 midfielders in 2 out. 1 winger come midfielder in 1 out 1 left back in 1 out still ngog up front when Torres is out and h&g make money again not to sure on price of all deals but nice little profit again. i don't think they are ready to sell yet when every year the debt goes down and with that there profit gets bigger. what do people think.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 06:06:05
01 Sep 2010 00:32:14
Pssst. Okay here we go. The players were introduced to kenny huang at anfield on 23rd July and were informed of the big plans for the future. As the meeting was done with h+g blessing the players were convinced that the club was moving forward they even gave huang signed shirts etc. It has since been revealed that huang was working for h+g in an attempt to start a bidding war along with the Kirdi interest. As you can imagine the senior players are not happy and are all prepared to leave in January.

. . . . .and what a Grade A tw*t you are!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 05:45:12

"Ac milan got ibra on loan y couldnt we? Newcastle got ben arfa on loan why couldnt we? What am I missing here"

It's called Champions League football for Ibra and we wouldn't take ben arfa due to his Mascherano-esque hissy-fits

 

 

01 Sep 2010 05:17:31
Stop crying you bunch of losers - we have had our best transfer window since Torres came in. You bunch of ingrateful whingers make me sick. Well done Roy Hodgson - our squad is far better now than it was at the end of last season (and more comfortably meeting the home-grown quota rules) - LIVERPRES

 

 

01 Sep 2010 03:24:34

A disappointing end to the transfer market for us. There's no power upfront. Once again, we are mostly relying on Torres. I wish he had signed a striker but its just a wish now. Nothing was official except Konchesky. Noe, lets c, how hodson shapes up the squad.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 03:13:52
Forgot to send a return contact! "a web site for realists to purvay"


Regards

Ralffff

 

 

01 Sep 2010 02:48:38

Well fellow Reds, the transfer market has slammed its doors shut again, and im actually quite happy with what we have achieved. Considering we didn't have the best season last year, and a lack of funds, i think the talent we have brought in is up there with the best.

• Jovanovic (starting to look sharp already)
• Poulsen (passes the ball forward unlike Lucas)
• Meireles (hopefully adds flair to our Midfield)
• Cole (getting back to his best at Chelsea?)
• Konchesky (hopefully solves our LB Problem)

I feel as though we are still lacking a Winger with pace and a good final ball. Im sure RH knows this also!

Considering the Takeover, could it be possible that the Insua loan gives us some sort of option to buy Turan come January? ED your thoughts?

Or am i being ambitious?

RedBear
{Editor's note - RH has done the best he can with the money he had available}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 02:43:41
Liverpool team after january 2011 transfer window close.
new owners by october 2010

reina

johnson carragher skertl konchesky

mireles

A.young gerrard cole

torres S.aguero

after takeover, rh will buy carlton cole, david bentley, ashley young and sergio aguero in january 2011 transfer window.

nigel
{Editor's note - Have you seen the future or can you read RH mind???}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 02:35:23

Why have we been let down AGAIN and AGAIN. . . any simpleton can see that we need a quality back up to play with or in place of TORRES. . . . this has stemed from when Crouch left, he was the last out and out striker here when Torres arrived. . . .
WHAT is going on with certain comings and goings. . . . .
I KEEP having this inkling that Roy is just a YES MAN. .
quotes "Poulsen is not a replacemant for Mascherano" he clearly is. . . .
"Meireles has been brought in to add to the squad coz we lost players in midfield" you sent AQUILANI on loan! !

we were bidding for CARLTON COLE! ! !?? ?? ?
and from the crap im picking up now, we were offering Babel and Lucas?? ?
get a grip man. . .he aint fit to clean eithers boots. .

im sorry folks but A QUALITY STRIKER has been our top priority for 3 seasons. . .yet we've mished and mashed around the rest of the squad. . . .GET THE STRIKER. . .worry bout the rest later. . . DON'T like this week say a "striker is priority" its too late. . .
sunderland. . . ASAMOAH GYAN. . . .might take his time to settle in. . . but for crying out loud. . .they have got a good player there. . . .he's bullish, scores goals, quick, strong need i say more. . . and we are f* *ing around trying to sign CARLTON COLE! !

seriously makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes. . .

perhaps the Insua loan deal is something towards getting Arda Turan. . .but knowing us nowadays. . we'll be bidding for Eagles of Burnley. . .

ooohhhhh im sssooooooo confused and annoyed. . . . .

nevermind time will tell. . . . .

Y.N.W.A. . . J.F.T.96

 

 

01 Sep 2010 02:34:42
01 Sep 2010 00:56:35
Ed do you think liverpool could still get turan as Gala signed Misimovic

is it possible that he could be going even with out SSN or any1 else knowing cheers ed {ed's note - SSN had watchers at the airports, I doubt Turan could have slipped in the country unnoticed. It is not like we would have had to hide him, there would be no fear of being gazumped as he would choose Liverpool over anyone.}

Im not been smart wen i say this ed but every new only at the last min VDV was at spurs. but is it possibel he could sign tomorrow like the window shuts a 6pm yesterday but what if you wanted to sign a player from australia it would take 24hours or so to get to liverpool.Just say paper work could have been faxed at 5.59pm an the player could fly in today is that possibel. an 1 more thing would the F.A be allowed say anything to SSN if papers were faxed or would they have to keep that to themselfs cheers ed

el irish nino
{Editor#s note - I am not sure, the word would slip up by now}

 

 

01 Sep 2010 02:26:21
I've jus found out dat all the money raised from transfers out will be used to refinance the club debt!

 

 

01 Sep 2010 02:16:05

Im sick n tired of the yanks n their promises I really hope dat the takeover is near completion

 

 

01 Sep 2010 02:07:05
I know it's a rumour site and people are saying such and such about certain players coming to Anfield. Doesn't look like Roy has signed a striker which he promised us unless there's one behind the scenes, away from the public eye i hope so anyway. If someone does surprisingly join we will all find out who are the real "s* tStirrers" on this site.

OldfieldLFC
In Roy We Trust.

 

 

01 Sep 2010 01:41:31

* * *L.F.C.* * * BEING RINSD BY THE YANKZ TRUE FACT ALL THIS HIPE ABOUT MAKING A LATE BID FOR COAL WAS A COVER UP TO KEEP ALL FANS QUITE SPURS BIDED 10M FOR BABLE WESTHAM ACCEPTD 9M FOR COAL WHY DID WE NOT DO A DEAL FOR COAL YANKZ MADE OUT WEST HAM BACKED OUT COS THERES NO REPLACEMENT FOR COAL PACK OF LIES THEY JUS WANTED TO SELL BABLE TO SPURZ R.HOGSON SAID NO TO BABLE SALE IF WE CANT GET COAL TRUE FACT. . . . . WAT DO U THINK ED IS HICKS LIEING OR NOT. . . YOUNG RED FOR LIFE. . . . F. . KING HEART BROKEN WE CANT GET A COVER FOR POOR NANDO. .
{Editor's note - I am not sure he is lying, West Ham would have needed to get cover}

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 01:24:04

Ac milan got ibra on loan y couldnt we? Newcastle got ben arfa on loan why couldnt we? What am I missing here

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 01:11:31

Liverpool Squad as it stands: (I hope we can secure a striker on loan)

FIRST TEAM
GK: REINA, JONES, (GULACSI),
RB: JOHNSON, KELLY,
CB: CARRAGHER, AGGER, SKRTEL, (KYRGIAKOS),
LB: KONCHESKY, AURELIO,
RW: KUYT, MAXI,
CM: GERRARD, LUCAS, POULSEN, MEIRELES,
LW: COLE, JOVANOVIC,
ST: TORRES, NGOG, BABEL, (PACHECO),

RESERVES
GK: HANSEN, BOUZANIS, CHAMBERLAIN,
RB: DARBY, MENDY,
CB: WILSON, (AYALA-LOAN), IRWIN,
LB: ROBINSON, MAVINGA,
RW: AMOO, POLOSKEI,
CM: SPEARING, SHELVEY, PALSSON, COOPER,
LW: INCE, BRUNA,
ST: ECCLESTON, SUSO, SARIC, SIMON,

Why are these still here? - ITANDJE, BROUWER,

Harry5

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:32:27

Ok so no new striker, but this is our 23 man squad:
1. Jones, 2. Johnson, 3. Koncheskey, 4. Meireles, 5. Agger, 6. Aurelio, 8. Gerrard, 9. Torres, 10. Cole, 14. Jovanovic, 16. Kyrgiakos, 17. Rodriguez, 18. Kuyt, 19. Babel, 21. Lucas, 23. Carragher, 24. N'Gog, 25. Reina, 26. Spearing, 28. Poulsen, 30. Itandje, 32. Darby, 37. Skrtel

And our under-21's who should be considered:
12. Pacheco, 22.Wilson, 33. Shelvey, 34. Kelly, 39. Eccleston, 40. Ayala, 42. Gulacsi, 43. Bouzanis, 46. Amoo, 49. Robinson

Personally i think we should play like this in the premier league and latter stages of cup comeptitions:
Reina
Johnson Carragher Agger Koncheskey
Meireles
Kuyt Gerrard Babel
Cole
Torres

Subs:
Jones, Skrtel, Aurelio, Poulsen, Maxi, Jovanovic, N'Gog

Europa League group stage and early FA Cup stages:
Jones
Kelly Carragher Skrtel Aurelio
Kuyt Gerrard Poulsen Jovanovic
Pacheco
Babel

Subs:
Bouzanis, Kyrgiakos, Koncheskey, Lucas, Maxi, N'Gog, Torres

Early League Cup Stages:
Jones
Darby Wilson Kyrgiakos Aurelio
Amoo Lucas Poulsen Jovanovic
N'Gog Pacheco

Subs:
Bouzanis, Ayala, Kelly, Gerrard, Maxi, Babel, Eccleston

To be honest who cares at all about the league cup, we could use a decent run in the europa league and the FA Cup but if we go out its no big loss, this season is all about the league

The young players who we know are increadibly talented (Kelly, Pacheco, Wilson, Ayala) need to be starting some games against smaller opposition and really clocking up the minuites they get on the field, especially in the europa league where they can improve in some very diffrent enviroments.

Other young players who have real potential (Shelvey, Eccleston, Bouzanis, Amoo) need to make the odd cup apperance and get a few league sub apperances to really improve to a good level.

Other players need to be tried in diffrent positions, i.e. LUCAS. he came to us as a box to box midfielder like the brazillian Gerrard, his problem was Benitez stuck him next to Mascherano and he wasant allowed to venture near the oppositions goal under any circumstances. When he was played in Gerrard's role in the 4-4 against chelsea i thought he was outstanding and needs to be given a license to roam whereever he wants.
Other players who need variation to adapt better:
Babel, Kuyt, Jovanovic, Pacheco, Kelly

and my suggestions go on, i think we still have a decent squad here, that with the right managment, can go a long way this season.

rant over

JJJ

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:32:14
Pssst. Okay here we go. The players were introduced to kenny huang at anfield on 23rd July and were informed of the big plans for the future. As the meeting was done with h+g blessing the players were convinced that the club was moving forward they even gave huang signed shirts etc. It has since been revealed that huang was working for h+g in an attempt to start a bidding war along with the Kirdi interest. As you can imagine the senior players are not happy and are all prepared to leave in January.

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:24:04
Why does everyone keep going on about turan?

Hes not even that gud for gods sake. FORGET ABOUT HIM

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:17:05
NO 4 f*ckS*KES

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:15:57

Ell rather than wait to share what I've been told and type it when the other "itk's" start reforming I have had a few days to talk to a few people and ask some questions etc concerning the sale of our club.

And tbh it's not easy reading initially because the anger we are feeling now as regards to a VERY poor showing during the transfer window . . .but

Mascherano WANTED to go, even though Roy tried to convince him that certain things would happen in the near future, he didn't want to stick around to find out.

Last week Roy had a meeting with broughton, purslow and dalglish, and whilst they talked about possible signings etc Roy asked how much of a budget he would have, he apparently mentioned purslows £12 million plus sales quote, but was told some genuine info about the takeover and was told to wait and see.

Basically broughton and purslow informed Roy that hicks lied to them all when he mentioned a big summer etc and that money from player sales would be sacrosanct.
Basically he is trying to delay the inevietable from happening etc. .and this leaves us with broughton and purslow being pitched against the two "owners" Ayer is a minor point because he's already made his pitch with broughton. .but purslow was wavering, but now has come into the fold.

Basically you will start to see a few things with hicks in the coming weeks. Anything from the ramblings about the stadium to the amount of revenue that has been generated etc, but as many of you may know on the 1st they get fined £20 million and whilst the sale of mascherano MAY go towards this. .it is still good news.

I've talked to a friend about the "new owners" and why haven't they made their approach for the club made known to the public and quite simply put. .it's because the time is not right sadly.

They confirmed that the following two are definately interested and that they have done DD and as I've stated all along they are:
Shiek Mohammed and
A group from abu dhabi

They also stated that an American has just entered the process of doing due diligence and that he may also take this further, but as regards to who it is I don't know. .but apparently a senior representative of his was at the match the other day and he's going to be seen at a few more matches in the very near future.

But the link between all this again comes back to the meeting had last week. .and what with the fine heading towards g&h there is also the October 6th hearing.

And the STRONG indications are that rbs are being forced by the government to start calling in certain high risk debts and this has alerted the interested parties .

Roy has been made aware of what is going on, and he's been promised that if he can keep Liverpool on track til the next transfer window then he will be given an "open cheque book" because the end is coming for g&h.

Again believe what you want to believe, knock what you want. but these things are happening, I know it's demoralizing at the momment and I hate to say things will APPEAR to be worse in the coming weeks, BUT IT IS NOT. Re banks will force a sale and whoever buys us be it shiek Mohammed etc could dave a few hundred million and if this happens then trust me, the next transfer window WE WILL BLOW ALL OF THEM AWAY big time

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:13:49

Can we still get players in via loan after the windows shut?

 

 

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:10:47
U p**fs stop making s* t up get a life

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:06:27
Liverpool best line up:

Reina

Johnson Carragher Skrtel Konchesky

Gerrard Meireles

Kuyt Cole Jovanovic

Torres

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:04:59
Sounds to me as if liverpool havnt signed anyone this window. . . .get a grip people! !

We have signed meireles (absolutely brilliant), joe cole (likewise), konchesky (solid left back, in desperate need of one), danny willson (will be a brilliant player), jovanavic ( looks good a strong if we play him in the correct position), as well as giving babel a chance up front and pacheco more game time i think liverpool are in a very good shape after this window. . get behind roy and the team and we can do very well this year

Scottish red

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:00:39
I have been glued to the tv since morning with high hopes and the internet hearing all the other transfers going through and in the end around 3 or 4 o'clock we hear of a bid for Cole what crap and silliness is that LFC deserve more than that I can not believe we could not get a more decent striker to come.

what happened to Huntelaar he was in the North west , llorente, dszudzsak, etc these are all better strikers than Cole.I am very dissappointed and I feel down any positive or wise words please to lift me up and every body else?
why did we not get asimoah gyan?

come on Lfc! ! ! !

 

 

01 Sep 2010 00:00:03
A poor showing in the transfer window? should have gone to spec savers! 3 internationals and a very good LB .you aint serious are you?? .omg i believe you are!.take a step back. . .who exacty have Chelski signed , Manure and Arse?? ?? . you got to be uckking kidding.if you going off who Sunderland have signed as a benchmark , who the uck is he for 13 million hmmm
looool

 

 

31 Aug 2010 23:53:37

Ed, king kenny recommended turan to roy. If King kenny ended up being the manager for liverpool, do you think we would've signed him by now?

Anyways, I have given up hope of EVER signing Arda Turan.