Liverpool Banter Archive September 01 2012

 

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01 Sep 2012 23:37:32
The most annoying thing about deadline day is how after 24 hours no explanation!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:34:28
I think we can just about cope until January:
1) We have a good strike partnership in Suarez and Borini
2) We can play Gerrard in a more advanced role
3) Raheem Sterling will get game time
4) Assaidi is a capable goal scorer (netted double figures last year)
5) We can play Morgan and Pacheco in the League cup/ Europe

and finally Brendan Rofgers has been told he can will sign players in January, expect a bid for Walcott and possibly going back in for Sturridge.

Irishdom15

Wait until injuries. We have 7 good players and a bunch of kids or unknowns. Wait until oct, we'll be bottom of the league.

We have no strength or depth. Im betting on LFC to get relegated 25-1 looks like a good bet at the moment. Poor squad last season, weak squad this season with our best players walking,

At last some positivity. Someone feels the same as me. In jan both Walcott and sturridge will be far cheaper barring them signing new contracts. Methinks blessing in disguise
Huddz red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:29:30
DROGBA:

So Drogba was meant to be paid 250k a week by the Chinese goverment, so whats going on with the country and the football. Its a poor international showing to let the world know you can't honour your debts.

But this also leaves Drogba to go somewhere else and I don't think he will be going to liverpool.

1-Drogba is a massive name in world football and why would a club like liverpool want big commercial successful name at the club when we can have the delights of Walsh football in Allen.
2-Drogba wages and length of contract. Will they pay a massive signing on fee, 250k a week for 3 years. on a 32 year old. Well considering they let some impressive players leave after they finally bedded in, then why would they want a beast like drogba to come.
3-liverpool couldn't close on clint demsey. why would they want a free transfer

He's 34 not 32 and he would never get a 3 year contract on that kind of money at his age. Still though he has another year or two in him at the top level. Great finisher.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:29:03
Someone on the rumours page has claimed conor coady has been asked/told to leave anyone know anything? & good luck to the reds tomorrow.....y.n.w.a. Paisley's genius

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:27:05
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEEASE, 'NO' Anti FSG banners or Anti FSG Chants tomorrow for Christ sake. Ian Ayre screwed up, and he may just pay for it with his job... So, GET OVER IT ! LFC Supporters are the best in the world, let's not smear our good name with a stupid knee jerk reaction. Let's remember, we got rid of Andy Carroll, ANDY CARROLL... NOT Messi NOT Iniesta and certainly not a prolific goal scorer so let's all relax. Sahin

Ian Ayre is being made the scape goat... Everyone is being blinded by FSG. It's them that stipulates the rules and money available. Ian is just the fall guy.

Slowpoke

What has John Henry ever done to you liverpool fans. Didn't he come up with 200million pounds to buy you lot out of trouble.

No Gratitude from football fans. He is free to asset strip the club asset, relegate the club, built luxury flats on Anfield. Its up to him what he does to the club.

No worst than previous owners. sad but true. Tom Werner hasn't got a clue about football and shouldn't be chairman in my opinion. You need someone with solid business sense. I wonder if LFC next documentary could be Marry Porter coming in to fix a broken business.lol

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:24:41
IMO I think who ever didn't sanction the Dempsey deal didn't realise the other side of the coin - that being the experience he could have offered to some of the younger players for the next 3 years which would have helped players like Morgan, Suso and even Borini develope into better players. So what if there was no re-sale value the knowledge someone like that possesses is priceless to a young team just like Carra and Stevie G offering advice. As the Eds have said 'a learning curve' for the owners but as long as they learn for it.
KernowRed

Dempsey was tapped up in April, tapped up by mistake by BR in a press conference in August, but Fulham knew the score and didn't like the under-handed way lfc operated in trying to get Dempsey.

Who wasn't sought for footballing skills, but because the americans wanted a All-American face for America. The poster boy for their new product to the americans. He had it all and they in Tom Werner tapped the player up in the crudest of ways. Ian Ayres his but-monkey totally put his size 9 in just to muddy the deal.

BR might of wanted him, was told he was coming in. Tom Werner thought the same and so did Clint Dempsey.

Clint Dempsey will become the highest-paid American soccer player in history after sealing a blockbuster transfer to leading English Premier

The United States national team forward completed a switch from his previous club Fulham with just minutes left before European soccer's trade deadline expired after agreeing to a contract worth an estimated $22.2 million over three years.

Estimated £90'000 a week wages for three years.

Tottenham paid £6 million for Dempsey in the end.

Liverpool would only offer £5 million.

No way Levy would break the pay structure for Dempsey. He is not on £90k.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:20:34
to everyone upset about the lack of signings, think about this......
the owners came in and released 100mill to spend on the team. blame dalgliesh and comolli for us having such a average squad right now.

They did release £100 mil, but did recoup around £75 mil. Not saying they aren't good owners abd are paying the losses we make, but sales should be considered.

Papa G

I am getting sick to death of hearing inaccurate statements about Liverpool spending £100 million on players last year. How do people keep forgetting that we sold Torres for £50mil and I believe Babel was sold for around £5-6mil. Those two players leaving pretty much offset the cost of Suarez £22mil and Carroll £35mil. So in actual fact Daglish spent around £50 million of the owners money bringing in 4 players which created a strong squad, even if half of them haven't performed to their potential yet. And we all know British players are stupidly expensive in today's market.

Well rafa, hodgeson and H&G must also share blame too.
derryred

This old chestnut keeps cropping up and i for one am getting sick of it - i mean it's not hard to understand is it ....FSG have not spent 100 m or anything like .
if they came to KK and said "here Kenny spend this 100m " i would back them all the way . BUT ...they have not spent that money - the vast majority was recouped in sales .
PLEASE go figure people !

They have spent 100m, they regained a big percentage yes, that could have gone to servicing debt, but they chose to spend it on players. Its money spent, not out of there pocket but its still 100m all the same. If you sold your car for 10k and then went and bought one for 20k doesn't mean you only spent 10 of your own.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:14:26
Ok, last night was disappointing; especially as we're thin on the ground up front. But look at the bigger picture- we paid a lot of money (the full whack) for Allen.
And Sahin; he was nailed on to go to Arsenal at one point and we pulled him out of the bag. There's even claims he came to us because of the money! We all looked at it positively when we got him, when he looked to be going elsewhere, so let's take the rough with the smooth.

And please no more Michael Owen talk. He hasn't been fit for years. Just because he's available doesn't make him suitable. Who next? Thomas Brolin? My nan could sign on as a pay as you play contract and she hasn't got a boring, monotone voice.
Rigsby.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:13:56
Whilst we're suggesting resigning former strikers on frees, Florent Sinama-Pongolle is without a club :p

- Something Red -

With good reason!

Ciario

Or david suazo

Dont be disrespecting Pongolle,he scored one of the three goals needed to overturn olympiakos in 2005

NAVANRED

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:09:35
Hi Ed's. Great site.

I was wondering what you thought the chances are of us signing Llorente or Yarmolenko in January. As things stand, both of their contracts are expiring in 2013, so perhaps a cut-price deal could be arranged in January if we act quickly. IF we got even one of these, our problems up front would be solved.

A deal for either of these players seems unlikely to me, but I was just wondering what you believe the chances are.

Thanks {Ed002's Note - I have no idea.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:08:35
Transfer dealings were an embarrassment however,
1 Other clubs know we won't give in to rediculous fees, no more taking the piss in terms of outrageous fees
2 We really must appreciate that we are not likely to make CL or challenge for the title (not for a few years) therefore unlikely to attract CL players
3 The damage done to our club is cumulative ovr years of mismanagent. It is NOT BR of FSG ( shame Rafa lost this marbles with his FACT rant, downhill from there)
4 If you really support the club then keep you head held high, no need for protest or over emotional reactions, get a grip and channel your positive support to transform Anfield into the experience that Shankly envisioned not the passive corporate cold expectant experience it currently is, unless we score. Fed up of being out sung by away supporters!

Rant over

Too right! Make Anfield a fortress again. If we are unbeaten at home all season I'll be very happy.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:07:06
Ok chaps, enough is enough! Let's pick ourselves up from the last 24 hours. Everything happens for a reason and we will bounce back with a good performance against Arsenal.

Our squad is not all that bad. Look at Arsenal they lost Van Persie and Song! Which would be like us selling Suarez and Lucas! They have 2 new strikers with no priemership experience. At least we have one! Our midfield and defence is much better than theirs. Now let's move on to Spuds, they spent more than us because they sold 2 of their best players, Modric and VDV and replaced them with Dembele and Sig! As good as they are they are not better than the outgoing players. They have no creative midfield player, we have!

Newcastle neede to sign a striker, but the did not. When Papa Cisse, Demba and Tiote go to African Cup, they will be in trouble!

Chelsea! Well, anybody watch them get outplayed yesterday!
So in a nutshell Manu and City are the clear winners. 3rd and 4th is up for grabs!

So keep the faith!
REDrum

Yep great to see you put things into perspective for all of the fans. May i add that as soon as chelsea hit a rough patch it is clear that RDM will be in trouble.
Also their defence is horrible without terry and on top of this, without terry and lampard i really don't see who the leaders are in chelseas team. We are packed with them in agger, carragher, gerrard, lucas and suarez.
derryred

African cup was last year

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:03:46
I'm sorry, but doesn't all this smell of desperation! We've got what we've got. Let's just accept that. Some one, some where got Friday all wrong. Time now to realise that and get on with the season. The sooner we do the better and we need to stop thinking that the cavalry (Owen, Drogba or Anelka) are about to come running over the hill

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:02:42
Theres a reason most these players are without clubs, it's because no one wants them!! There is literally not a single name on the list I just saw which I believed would be a good signing (bar anelka and drogba but obviously theres no way). The most sensible thing to do now is just wait till january when we can bring in a quality player worth their wages, and in the mean time just hope suarez and borini stay fit and morgan and yesil can come good!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 23:00:58
Hey eds, just wondering how do you decide which posts go on the rumours page of the website or the banter page? Because their seems to be alot of crap coming through on the rumours page but a lot of good posts on the banter page.

Cheers

vox30 {Ed002's Note - Some of the Eds have different opionions on posts. I'll flush the crap in the morning.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:58:33
Looking forward to the game tomorrow. Need to get 3 points and move on from yesterday's massive disappointment. Hope we don't suffer too much from one of the most inept pieces of transfer business in our History, but fear the consequences will be significant during the season.
Come on Reds lets' show them what we're made of
Victor

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:53:30
Guys,

Stop putting so much emphasis on Sahin being our saviour.

He is

1. Just coming back from what was effectively a year out with lots of injuries I clouding a serious one that needed surgery. He will need time to get back up to match fitness levels.

2. He has never played in the Premier league. Virtually every player needs at least 6 months to adjust. Who says so? Arsene Wenger the first manager to play an all foreign team in the premiership.

3. We may get 3 or 4 good months out of him but then he will be gone. Real Madrid want him back as the long term replacement for Xabi Alonso. Mourinho wants him to get back to peak and learn the attributes you only learn in the PL.

I am not saying he is a bad player. Heis in fact on his day quite majestic but we may not see that from him, so stop getting your hopes up.

Orrin

If he doesn't turned out to be brilliant, Madrid won't want him back and will offer a purchase. The standards for brilliance at Real Madrid are very much different from our own. If he does return to Madrid, which is the most likely outcome, we can then make a cut-price offer for Alonso who will then be in the final year of his contract provided he sticks to his claim of not wanting a contract extension. By the way, Sahin looked good throughout pre-season and he was playing out of position.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:53:18
Well played Andy Carroll, unplayable yet again. Rodgers should have kept him and played him without worrying too much about his style, Carroll would have fitted in, corners are part of the game, as are free kicks.

It's going to be a handful for any defence playing Big Sam's tactics with an awesome target man such as Carroll. The lad had a good day today, minus the hammy strain.

Our set-pieces under Rodgers have been effective without Andy so far, I wouldn't expect a change. If you're suggestion we switch to the "style" of Sam Allardyce, then clearly you know little about tactics in football. Our team is, and was with Andy Carroll, closer to Rodgers style than it is to that caveman football Sam plays. Carroll had a good match against Fulham, but that proves my point more than it does your own. Like it or not, Andy Carroll did not perform well for us.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:52:37
Where does the future lie with Conor coady

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:48:20
Eds, will Andy Carroll be allowed to play against Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - No.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:47:15
3 points tomorrow lads that's what we want . I love my Liverpool family . Come on get right behind the lads tomorrow . You'll never walk alone .

Jamesy

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:37:21
Every club is playing great football so far this season does not really matter who you sign. cheap deals looking great

GAM

Have stopped lookin at pon for a week,why am i gettin the cougar life ads still,the wife will have a mickey fit 1 ps mega site

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:32:49
im sorry but has everyone forgotten assauidi (spelling) he looked gr8 in the vids and could score plaently of goals

Ah yes the youtube sensation, must be amazing right? Lets not get our hopes up for him to be our savior

Milan baros looks amazing on youtube...any questions?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:20:48
Hey guys

I think gerrard shud play alongside allen as the 2 midfielders and shelvey above them....why?

Cos shelvey will get his ass in the box!! Sth gerrard doesn't do anymore...he seems too lazzy to gamble...so its better shelvey play ther


We need to start gettin our midfielders nto the box i

Oh look Gerrard bashing. How original. Has it occured to you he might be instructed to be disciplined and not burst into the box every oppurtunity?

In any case, I have two words for you: Nuri Sahin. He's going to play alongside Allen with Gerrard in front.

- Something Red -

Where would Sahin play then?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:16:03
Guys. What would be the worst scenario:

1. FSG save Liverpool from liquidation by purchasing the club and it's debts, thereby ensuring the ongoing existence of the club, or

2. We miss out on Demspey through a **** up.

Get a grip. comparing FSG to H & G is insane.

Red Machine

Or we loan out our 35m striker and not replace him, leaving us with suarez and maybe borini will get a few seen as tho yesil wont be in the first team

I totally agree, some ridiculous OTT fans on the site..

Zero

Nah, Kenny Huang was the real saviour. We'd totally have Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka, Cavani and Modric by now if we'd sold to him.

I mean clearly FSG are charlatans. Haven't spent a penny of their own money in buying a loss making club up to its eyes in debt and spending at least £50m nett on transfers...

- Sarcastic Red -

Listen, if you have a young player hardly in the reserves at Liverpool and now he is potentially our third choice striker, you know something is wrong. I find ironic how last season when things were not going well and posters were asking about maybe playing Morgan, only to be told he is still young. Now this seasonwe are informed that we still have Morgan as if hes had 3/4 seasons of premiership experience under him. A total joke. Someone screwed up! Fact!

The Irish Rover

Wold u prefer to be playin in league 1 like rangers are doing in scotland, man the **** up and accept that we could be in a awfully lot worse predicament than we are now,these guys have put in the bones of half a billion pounds to save the club so a wee bit of gratitude maybe? we still spent almost 35m this window,hellowww ! {Ed063's Note - Some common sense at last! We have responsible owners who want the best for the club. When we over pay for a player to get him in they get abused, when we stick to our guns and refuse to pay more than the player is worth they get abused. Some people are never happy}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:14:59
Whoever the owners are, whoever the manager is, whoever the players are, tomorrow and forever we must support Liverpool Football Club!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:12:09
Heard today that a 7 month contract is on the table for Didier Drogba. A striker will be signed in Jan and Drogba will go to LA Galaxy at the end of his contract.

Absurd - absolutely ridiculous. Drogba loves Chelsea, and we couldn't, rather wouldn't pay his astronomical wages.

Give him a SHORT TERM £100pw contract until Jan plus 500k sign on fee. = £2.5m {Ed002's Note - You can't do that. The rules don't allow it.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:08:10
Hi Ed's,

just been looking through the list of free agents from the site provided. In a the first 25 players listed, 5 of them are ex-liverpool players!!
Just thought that was worth mentioning, i'm not sure how many more there are after that??
Any advances on 5?
Pongolle, Kewell, Owen, Heskey and Biscan (Note, i didn't go futher than the 2nd page of results)

Red Viking

Siname-Pongolle/ I thought he was pretty good when we had him. His end product was a bit slapdash at times but he was quick and very skillful on the ball.

Sinama didn't get enough games....big ged had stars to placate

 

 

01 Sep 2012 22:06:13
Hi Eds are the rumour about Owen true
Thanks keep up the good work kyle8 {Ed052's Note - No}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:49:32
Team for tomorrow 4231
Reina
Kelly. Agger. Skrtel. Johnson
Allen. Henderson
Borini. Gerrard. Downing
Suarez

Lol u wish, sterling or assaidi ahead of downing, he is our new lb becos he is not gd enuf up top! Sahin has to start against average joe jordan henderson. RedTurk

Shelvey is ahead of Henderson.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:46:22
Got a feeling what happened on deadline day may just strengthen the resolve of BR and the players. We have a good squad albeit a bit light on frontal cover. I think they may come out fighting from this.

Gazline

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:42:59
Hi Eds, SERIOUS QUESTION PLEASE LOOK INTO..
Is it possible that LFC signed a foreign player who requires a work permit to be granted. The deal was signed prior to the transfer deadline, but would only go through if a work permit was granted. Could it be that we are just sitting tight waiting for the work permit application process??
YNWA The Pirate. {Ed052's Note - no chance}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:38:18
Hi eds, great site. I'm just wondering about the Carroll deal. Is Carroll able to refuse a pernament transfer at the end of the season to return to Liverpool. Thanks in advance {Ed002's Note - I really don't know the provisions of the deal but he cannot be made to sign a contract he doesn't want to sign.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:37:30
Hi Liverpool family

Last night i was so gutted and disillusioned with the farce that was our so called transfer policy.

However I have now calmed down and thought rationally about what happened.
FSG's policy has always to be self sufficient and to only buy players who are young and will appreciate in value. When you look at the players they have provided money for e.g. Boriini, Allen and Assaidi then all should appreciate in value and contribute to the team for years to come, however if you look at the prospective transfers, Dempsey (29), Sturridge (cost around 18 mil and hasn't done anything), Walcott same as Sturridge, then maybe its better we do wait and pick someone who better suits the policy.
We are all saying we should give the youth a chance, well now they have 5 months to prove themselves and all of us may be be very surprised how they will adapt.

Also we have to remember we kept the vultures from the door and we still have one of the best center backs in the league in Agger.

So lets give FSG a little more time and see if their policy starts be reap the benefits they are promising, and for one thing lets do what we do best and start supporting the club from top to bottom.

You Will Never Walk Alone

From a calmer and more positive Liverpool supporter

Evered

It would be nice to hear your response to all that went on last night Eds and by the way a great job by all the eds last night, pure class

I agree. and also they have reduced the wage bill massivley. and although we havent got the depth upfront we still have a very very good starting 11. and when you look at what we did against city with a squad of an average age of 24. they are looking for the future security of the club.

althought i am still cautious as this policy could still have a negative effect. or cause us to miss out on a few good deals. eg demsey.

In response to your calm rational post Friday rationalisation, in five months, with NO proven striker, it may be too late to even contemplate Europa cup football.
Is this progress? Gambling of the highest order I call it.
The ONLY priority for investment for nearly 12 months was to strengthen the goal SCORING ability. Not to sign new midfielders like Allen, good as he is, or the other 'midfielder' Borini. Prioritising Swansea players over a proven scorer squandered £25m of funds which could have gone towards a top striker, a Falcoa..etc Look how many times last season the midfield dominated games only for strikers to fail to convert, either hitting the post or the bar. Look up the stats for yourself. The engine was already there. It needed goals. To win games to give them confidence. Unfortunately no amount of coaching will give a team confidence. That only comes from Leadership, and that only succeeds where there is respect.
Looking at tweets from LFC player about Carroll today, they aren't exactly pleased at him being forced away. Respect may be harder to come by for Brendan. Especially when Carroll bossed the defence today and drove WHam to solid victory.

Where does Downing figure into that "young" and "appreciating" value bit?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:37:16
Right guys..

Lets not pretend yesterday was not a huge dissapointment but glad to see alot of the anti-FSG posts have gone today showing it was probably just heat of the moment madness.

However Mr Ayre does have to go, terrible buisness sense and has massivly let the club down. His head must roll if we are to be taken seriously as a club to do buisness with. The Dempsey Fiasco was horrific to watch, Why on earth would he offer 22 year old Henderson for 29 year old Dempsey?

So yes, he must go and I was wondering how likely this is eds?

I would also like to extend my thanks to all the Eds for a fantastic website with some great posters and top quality banter! A fantastic display all round yesterday and just a shame we didnt get the big deal your efforty deserved.

I am sure in Jan we will have funds to strengthen the squad and (if teams actually take us seriously) get that striker we will all be signing on FM 12/13...

Red-David-26

Are you suggesting Ayre offered Henderson against the wishes of the manager?
If Henderson was offered to Fulham, it would only have been with Rodgers approval.

Hendo was a year long loan offer wasn't it?

- Something Red-

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:34:02
Eds what r ur predictions for tomorrow? {Ed002's Note - A little light cloud in the south but a generally mild and pleasant day.}

Best response all year.

Papa G

Ed002 you are a true legend

Brilliant ed!

Zero

That was really funny ed002....
"LIGHT DRIZZLE"!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:33:56
I am getting so sick of all this anti Ian Ayre comments. Do you people only have a five minute memory? Ian almost single handily saved this club remember all our protests to get H&G out who came to the front and lead by example through out that court case?

This man is a Red true and true he loves this club every single bit as much as any supporter he stopped us from becoming a Rangers he lead the revolt listented to all us supporters and acted in the most proffesional manner through out...

Dont get me wrong alot of ques need to be answered and I tink Rodgers will demand answers but until that comes out if it ever does remember we owe alot to Ian Ayre a true gent, professional in every sense of the word and a big factor in gettin H&G out.

3points tomorrow sahin plays a stormer everything ok again ;)

Ste

Is Ian Ayre not the one that introduced the membership fees and keeps putting them up every year? Rest assured he is not perfect.

Mighty reds

Hi ste,

I agree and disagree. Yes, He is a true red, but personally I'd move him back to finanical director. Seems MD is too much for him. I know we have to be clever in the market, but from what it seem is that he was just playing silly buggers and LFC have now put alot of teams noses outta joint.

He should stick to what he is good at and concentrate his efforts on the commercial side of the club.appointing a man with no experience of running a football club to that role was a mistake and should be rectified. lets get someone in with football experience

He is also a yes man to either the manager or the owners, depending on which is present.

Ayre's a decent man, I'm sure. So was Parry. So was Moores.

He was a good Commerical Director, but his ability to perform beyond that role was already being questioned last season and the Dempsey affair just adds to it. Maybe the club should try to get him back to the role was good at.

- Something Red -

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:27:39
Just want to thank the ed's for all their hard work over
The transfer window. Much appreciated. I am still confident
We will be challenging for top 4 come the end of season.
(irishred)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:24:17
wot a joke are club liverpool are!!!!!!! 1st we loan out our 35 million record buy for a 1million loan fee, dont replace him so leave ourselves short of strikers and also agree a permanant 17million fee at end of season which if carroll leaves permanant we will be 17 million loss on him. we offer henderson to fulham straight swap for dempsey, why? we paid 16 million for henderson and were prepared to swap him for a player that fulham want 5 million for!!! we also sell charlie adam for 4 million despite buying him for 8.5million (yet again a 4.5 million loss). we are the top guys that run the club doing?? and people wonder why we arnt?cant compete with the teams at top of the league, we pay over odds all time for players and take a big loss when we come to sell them. i can understand them selling adam as we got sahin and assiadi in for midfield but thought we would have got more money for him seen as he was only here 12 months, i can understand that if he doesnt like carroll that he may want to sell him or loan him out but u do that after u bring in someone to replace him not the way we have done which has backfired bigtime and left us short in attack...like i say its a joke! how do the owners expect us to challenge for a champions league spot when we are short on attackers?? i thought thats why dagliesh went cos they wanted champions league spot... it wont happen again this season, how can we compete when our rivals for the 4 champions league spots are spending x amount of millions??

Hello,oh nameless one. Just as a matter of interest how much of this has come out of your pocket? Don't tell me that what you pay at the gate is part of that money. FSG are the owners of LFC and are the only ones who can decide what is or is not spent on players. I keep posting that they are not going to spend lots of money but are depending on the academy to develop into first-teamers. I know that it is going to take time but it will come. We are (at last) introducing these young players into the team and so far I am pleased with their progress.
Dutchmal

We're looking after the club, not the season person.

What we paid for players and what they are worth have no relevance. Man Utd paid £31 mill for Berbatov and sold him for £4 mill, who gives a toss. We just need to buy better for the system we play now....what we paid was history.

Hi eds and dutchmal,but what the lad pays at the gate and on his jerseys and what ever other merchandise he pays for out of his pocket does pay for signings and all else cause in the end its a hard earned money thats going into club not just fsg they will walk away in end in tact but we b still spending are money cause we love are team and want the best.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:22:49
when br took over he said transfers were going to be sorted by a panel i will say that this as prooved inadiquate inept foolish .
the scouts brought in what was they payed for ?
i have supported fsg until now my mind has changed by this transfer window we have been left weaker than before we have sold or loaned players that might be needed over the coming months .
now im feeling our club has been turned into a 3 ring circus run by red nosed scary big footed freaks who are only any use as comedy butt kickers.

cheers everyone lfc forever fsg sort yourselves out. mal....

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:22:07
Running towards the cliff edge. No parachute.

When things go wrong. They go badly wrong.

Redlime

I hope that it is a high cliff otherwise a parachute is of no use to you - you'll be squashed before it even has time to open.
DM2012

He said no parachute you person

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:06:07
Hi ed just here in Portugal on me hols and never looked at a bit of transfer gossip until the last few minutes. I am soooo gutted at reading through your replys tonight. just a couple of questions
1) What will this window do to Rodgers now cause I have to agree with you he was lied to big time, how can you work with people when this happens.
2) Do you reckon we will sign Michael Owen now that the window is shut and he is a free agent and we need a striker very badly

Missed you so much this week : )
Frog. {Ed022's Note - I think Rodgers will accept this as he has no choice in the matter, but he'll certainly be ticked off that's for sure. The one thing I will say to everyone though is that the owners have clearly made a mistake and it is a learning curve, and to hear that they've received death threats etc is completely disgusting. They are trying their best for our club, and they will get it wrong from time to time. Everyone makes mistakes, but in January I hope they will rectify the mistake and go for another Striker, and possibly more. Nevertheless, time will tell.}

What was BR lied to about?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:27:53
EDs.....is it at all possible that we could have signed someone needing a work permit and done the paperwork before the deadline, but the deal was relient on the work permit being granted which would take a few days????
YnWA The Pirate {Ed052's Note - No}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:38:42
Ed's do you rate Ngoo? Could a player profile be done on him?

Kind regards

The southern red {Ed052's Note - Yes and yes}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:33:18
Ed 052 you're typings falling apart mate, get some sleep -Lol
You guys have done agreat job. Thanks for the entertainment. I will now unstrap the monitor from my partners head and actually look her in the eye when I talk to her!
REDditch {Ed052's Note - It's because of automatic text on my phone mate}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:14:02
Quick question edds, if Suarez was to get injured, would Liverpool be allowed an emergency loan deal ? thanks {Ed002's Note - Of course not.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:13:56
What about Gudjohnsen, he is a free agent at the minute. I would also really consider making an offer to Anelka. I fully understand that he may cost a lot of money but maybe he would come foe something in or around Carrolls wages.

Also I would like to say a massive thank you to the Eds for all of their honesty and hard work. We may not have all agreed with what they have all said but we are all on the site because their info is always the best.

Macca is a legend and there is no need for you to apologise about yesterday mate. You are undoubtably in the know. Anybody who questions your info or motives should be ashamed to call themselves a fan.

I feel sorry for Rodgers as he was kind of hung out to dry yesterday. I don't know who was to blame but I really believe we have the right man in charge. Good times are ahead my friends and I hope you all enjoy the season ahead. Jaffer 81

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:10:26
Hi eds can you guys put a list of free agents up? And also send 1 copy to roggers lol naa stick to the first point only thanks

AznRED {Ed002's Note - I did it earlier - search for tinyurl.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:10:14
Eds please answer, if Suarez or borini gets injured don't we get special dispensation to recall Carroll? Thanks {Ed002's Note - I have not seen the terms of his deal but I would think not.}

I think if money is exchanged in the loan you cannot cancel or recall the player until the loan period is complete

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:10:12
Hi Eds, just wondering if you could inform me what current striker free agents there are? Obviously Owen is but can we ideally get someone else? I believe Drogba is on a free again but would his wages/ties to Chelsea be a stumbling block? Many thanks. {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers dealing with all of this.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:07:29
Evening eds thanks to all of u & Macca for all your hard work during the window , now I don't know y so many people r moaning I personally think are squad may be a bit thinner but I feel its a lot stronger great defence & midfield & although some of our attacking players are unproven yet we have quite a few to choose from , suarez , borini , sterling , Morgan , assaidi , yesil , Pacheco , downing , I think we will be fine with all these & if the midfield chip in with goals as well then all the better I think people are worrying over nothing , once again thanks eds .... Steve

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:06:50
i believe promises were made to BR and not delivered.
Really hope theres sum form of protest at the match tomorro. BR should have known better than sell himself short without cover.
and any1 who believes this bull that fsg are furious with how th deadline went are deluded they could have stepped in, jus more broken promises.
ps. defo dont want that lil person owen back

No protests they don't help the club

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:05:07
Can't believe all the negativity I think it's been a great summer. Are starting eleven will be the best we've had for years, the youngsters are gonna get a chance. I don't think the lack of goals has anything to do with personnel , once we turn the corner and get Brendan's ideas implemented the goals will come along with the confidence . We've saved loads of money on the wage bill, a really young squad what a great platform to build on we only add young top quality players from now on. Dempsey is to old and to much money fair play to fsg for not breaking there rule, 20 million for downing never gonna see anything back off that. Exciting times ahead

Brtd;)

Good post,too much negativity we"ve signed five players this window five good young players we should all get behind the squad and brendan for the rest of the season. dom

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:02:44
When Ian Ayre was interviewed for his job , was he told it was for the LFC board room not the KFC drive thru !

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:01:41
I've got to admit, I was one of those who was, "slightly miffed" shall we say, last night. However after taking everything in I have to admit I am still feeling optimistic about our season and somewhat excited about the youth getting a chance to come through the ranks.

I would be more comfortable in the thought that it was Ayre that messed things up, as I just can't (like many others) fathom why the owners would not stump up the funds for, at the very least Dempsey, this would also remove the suggestion that Rodgers may now think he has been lied to in some way, the last thing we need is a rift between BR and the owners. That said, if we had signed the players we did sign on the final day, I would have been happy with that.

Lets get behind the team now, time will tell.

Great work from all the Ed's and Macca

 

 

01 Sep 2012 21:00:24
just want to say thanks to all the eds and Macca who have almost been spot on throughout the transfer window, pitty we never got a striker and dempsey but hopefully the team now can get enough goals till january. YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:58:43
Been thinking about FSG selling up after some have made comments and it makes much sense BUT, if they did, I do not think they came in with the intention of cleaning up and then selling up... I think not getting 4th has cost them too much...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:38:27
chill boys in the next window were going to sign kate MOSS as a striker. we will then have the fastest two forwards in history STERLING MOSS .

alan waddle

It would be better if we signed David Silva then we would have STERLING SILVER!
Dutchmal

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:58:13
It's about time we put the transfer deadline to bed and stop moaning we have a great team, maybe no to many options available but I think we can cope sitting around and blaming people ain't going to get as anywhere so it's about time we support the team and the coach.

Liverpool fan from Cyprus

Well said mate . I lived in limasoll for 2 years . Love Liverpool , love Cyprus . YNWA

If you lived there for two years you would know that it is 'Limasssol' or 'Limasol'!
DM2012

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:57:39
Here is the situation as I see it, fsg bought our beloved club when we were in dire straights, they shipped out woy who I believe was brought in by Gillette & hicks to see us over coz he wrked with limited funds at fulham & got best out of players. They then brought dalglish back much to the delight of EVERY SINGLE FAN, he done a gr8 job in his 6month deal & was duly given a 2 year deal, after a misserable first full season in charge & sum very questionable transfers was deemed surplus to requirements, we then went after a very good young manager who done wonders at Swansea, was told that our current wage structure was way to high & wud b given limited funds, still Rodgers took the job on & seems to thrive under pressure, after a busy transfer window brought in sum very exciting talent in Allen & hopefully sahin. Lfc r goin the right way under Rodgers & I fully believe that, jus wish sum of the fans could do too. Now I'm not goin 2 hide my dissapointment regarding deadline day, we look considerably weaker than we did on Wednesday the 29th, but I have had a bit of time to reflect & think even tho a lot of questions will need 2 b answered we shud wait for now, get behind our team & show the players that r there that they still playin for the best damn club in the world.
Rant over!
YNWA

Well said mate

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:53:48
Im just wondering why so many want us to sign Owen or drogba or anelka? They are all too old too slow too greedy for our club. Liverpool fc is better than that. We have up to 8 players capable of playing up front and scoring goals so we have no need to worry. I'm glad no one was bought yesterday because I don't think the players we were linked with are any better than what we have already. Borini will come good and score goals as will suarez and Morgan will develope as the season goes on. Stevie will score goals as a front player now we have Allen and sahin in cm. We in a far better position than we were this time last year. Onwards and upwards we will go but we must be patient with BR and give our full support and stop this crap about getting the owners out. In 5 years we will look back and be glad of the way the owners have run the club and made it self sufficient and a success both on and off the pitch.
YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:52:51
I am always "glass half full" and I don't think this has been a bad window at all.
Yes, I would agree we are a bit light on the striker front but our midfield is unrecognizable from last season.
We have 2 young players who have been signed who some have never heard of...
I think Assaidi(spelling) and the german youngster will both be in and around the 1st team straight away and why not.
If we are thinking long term then why not blood some youngsters and see what happens. We have all been saying for years that we have a good crop of youngsters coming through and yet when we buy no-one then everyone is all depressed about it.
jonnybarnes89-90

Problem is when our youngsters come good FSG will sell to make a profit or be poached by a richer club, it will be a merry go round

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:52:29
Ed's, Who do you think will take Lucas spot in the lineup tomorrow ? TorontoRED {Ed052's Note - Shelvey}

Should be sahin, better player, better tehnique, quicker on the ball and good tackeler. Shelvey is way too slow to play in the middle, the guy is ionly gona get slower aswel thats the sad thing. RedTurk

What about sahin ain't he gonna start with Allen and Stevie ? {Ed052's Note - Coulddo but I think Shelvey}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:50:56
Eds - Does Ian Ayre have absolute financial autonomy when it comes to transfers? The tone of the posts suggests that the failure to sign Dempsey and the strategy applied to that deal was entirely his fault. To what extent would FSG have input?
CD75 {Ed052's Note - FSG put the cash up and trust him and others. }

Thanks Ed52. And thanks for your fantastic work.

Eds not my post but you didn't really answer the question. Did Ian Ayre have funds for Dempsey or just the measly £3m we are being quoted as bidding. Not having a go just interested in getting your view.
Cheers
Red Nick {Ed052's Note - He did}

Cheers 52 - red nick

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:46:55
COME ON GUYS WE WANT ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out ian ayre out - GET GONE YOU CLOWN.

Maybe you should collect some facts before you string the man up. do you KNOW exactly what happened when we didn't sign the hugely overrated D.Sturridge? I didnt think so...sheesh- keyboard warriors...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:44:22
I have been saying since FSG tool over that we need a Liverpool based Chairman and CEO to be able run the club effectively. This was evident in the Suarez debacle and the last 3 transfer windows.

How does where they come from have any influence on the quality and suitability of the job ?
derryred

Ian Ayre is from Liverpool..?

Zero

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:43:51
I'm glad Henderson turned down a transfer away to fulham, because if that would have gone ahead i assure you this season would have been much worse because of our failings this transfer window.

YorkshireRED.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:38:50
heard carroll done a hammy today,so if he would have stayed and it happened we would still be in same situ,so lets use what we have wisely....still a man down without replacement striker,lets hope they all stay fit.... allfc

After bossing the defence and setting up 2goals, good shout ian

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:33:36
Earlier i read a post writing about our fans owning the club or at least owning the majority now if there is 71 million fans worldwide as quoted if only half of them put in ten quid each we could run this club ok ,we would get special discounts on games and we could all vote on players in and out how can we set it up and what could we call ourselves i think L.F.W - Liverpool fans worldwide- give me your thoughts -dribbles-

I would cry if some of the fans on this page got to run the club. The owners have more sense than we do and you have to accept that.

derryred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:25:48
Has saviola become a free agent eds ? {Ed002's Note - No.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:33:02
Ian Ayre couldn't run a bath never mind a football club. LFC just seem to go from one PR disaster to another.

How was last night a "PR" disaster?

Except to fans who just silly amounts of
money spend on players even if they
can't afford it.....

Man city's only a few miles down
the road your more than welcome

Lyndon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:31:42
edd who is the best available loans out there, is there a striker list?
5gold stars {Ed002's Note - There are no loans - it is too late.}

Sorry free agents
5gold stars {Ed002's Note - I provided a link earlier.}

Correct me if I'm wrong but you can sign players on loan, for another 2 months I think, only short-term loans though...

Stone YNWA. {Ed063's Note - Not in the premier league}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:28:15
Should give Suso and Morgan a chance plus new lad Yemil, we have Sterling already, you will win nothing with kids ??remember those fateful words ....... YNWA!

Suso join midfield and Gerrard striker.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:23:22
The lot of you on here are absolutely ridiculous. You're all calling for FSG's heads when they've done nothing but be good for this club! They're trying to run the club in a sustainable way, which is totally the right way to run a football club.

Do you expect them to spend all of theirs' and the clubs money on players? WE DO NOT HAVE THE BILLIONS OF MAN CITY, and trust me, all this big spending is going to be the downfall of Man City in the long run.

Don't forget that John W. Henry and co had already spent millions of their own money on bringing in Allen, Borini, Assaidi and Sahin before deadline day.

Think twice before making such stupid comments on the running of the club people.

vox30

What you say is arguable mate. You have to spend money to build a team that can win things. Whatever we think about that doesn't really matter, it's essential. Sustainable is admiral and is preferable but isn't enough on its own. Money has to be directed to the team, otherwise we will become perennial also rans. FSG only go so far with this.

Totally agree, read today with all the wages saved from yesterday to January will generate £20 Million !!

The club has been running at a loss for the last two years, paying average players 50-100k a week ! all coming out of FSG pockets!

I am disappointed we didn't bring anybody in, but i do think they are doing what they think is best for the club.

If yesterday we had no one signed at all, then in the last few hours pulled out
Allen
Sahin
Assaidi
Borini
along with the young german lad i think everyone would have been delighted !

It's time to bring on Arsenal tomorrow and get 3 massive points !

G BOX

Nice to see that we do still have fans that believe in the long term future of the club, not just the next four months. Wish that those who think the glass is half empty would just go refill their glass with whatever they want.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:27:14
Hi Eds,

First of all, fantastic jobs you are all doing.

Personally, I believe FSG are excellent as owners and are taking the necessary steps to enable Liverpool to again compete with the top clubs. This will not happen overnight, the majority of people have unrealistic expectations or little understanding of how much time/effort/money it takes to restructure and turnaround any failing business, let alone Liverpool football club. The main thing is FSG have a plan of action and a track record of success to back it up.

Clearly, the mess up with Dempsey is an isolated incident. Very badly handled, but these things happen. Mistakes will be made, the likes of FSG learn from them.

Otherwise it has been an excellent summer with positive signings and reducing the overall wage bill - therefore freeing up funds later down the line and bringing in funds from success on the pitch later(hopefully, never guaranteed).

The question I have is regarding Andy Carrol. Talk about cutting your losses! Clearly Brendan Rodgers doesn't want him - but is it purely down to Rodgers not thinking Carrol is good enough/doesn't fit his system, or is it down to Rodgers believing Andy caroll just does not have the right attitude/parties too much/doesn't work hard enough to play for him?

Thanks in advance, Dom

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:26:54
1 of the ed's stated before that fsg have spent 600 million buying Liverpool and on transfers and debt . What I wanted to know and don't really understand is we have had over 100 million back in transfers , and various other money out of sponsorship and deals and right's so has all this come off the 600 million or has that been spent as well funding the club .

LB {Ed002's Note - THe Ed may have been speaking in a different currency - it is not that high yet.}

Ed2 I don't like being negative am an old school supporter who think's we can still beat anyone no matter who is in charge or who the players are I support the club before anything . With what you an ed1 know about the club are fsg the right people to take us were we need to be challenging up the top end of the league and stable in finance .

LB

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:21:25
EDs what do you think will happen now in the forward department? Do you expect Morgan to have a more permanent role in the first team squad and do you think Yesil will be used in the first team squad regularly? If not who do you think will make the step up from the reserves? Thanks.

Luke JFT96 {Ed002's Note - I would expect Morgan to be on the bench more.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:17:37
Can i just say no matter what people think of the owners leave Henry and his wife alone on twitter. The abuse lets the vast majority of true fans down. We may not agree with everything they do but lets show them some respect not death threats thats unnaceptable. Im shocked and sad at some of the things i have read today from so called liverpool fans.Everyone is unhappy we didnt get a player in but certain things on twitter are just sick.

Red raj

The world is full of morons, unfortunately some are LFC fans, lets hope he recognises its not all of us. Some people should be sectioned for their behaviour, because its on the net doesn't make it acceptable.

Not a twitter person myself, but this is sad news. What do these persons think that they are achieving? And death threats? To anyone who sent or even thought of sending this sort of message, f**k off, we neither need nor want you at the club.

The owners have been personally sent death threats on Twitter, wtf is going on with people? No LFC fan is truly happy we didn't replace big Andy, but is that really the way to go, let's just support the manager and the players that we do have and see where it takes us!

Keith

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:52:13
Eds do you know if rodgers rates suso? hes a top player. go you think he will feature in europa league and carling cup games.

Thanks, Ghandi Floss {Ed052's Note - He is worried about his attitude#. I love h. He will play I hope}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:37:09
Eds thanks for your work over the summer. What was the deal with Joe Cole? Was he told that he could leave and refused or was he a player Rodgers wanted to keep?

Thanks
Mighty reds {Ed052's Note - Juat couldn't get rid of him}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:02:08
Jonathon Pearce at West Ham : 'Carroll dominated the game today.'
This system that he does not fit into at Anfield. Will fail spectacularly.
Fools !

Redred

Yeah, we should just play like West Ham and Stoke. None of this passing the ball on the deck. Lump it forward, get it in the mixer. Hoooof.

Kev.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 20:01:36
Brendan Rodgers in despair as Liverpool's owners refuse to sanction a £7 million deal for Clint Dempsey

Hard talk: Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers could not talk the Liverpool owners into paying out £7m for Clint Dempsey
Picture: REUTERS
By Chris BascombeLast Updated: 4:12PM BST 01/09/2012
Liverpool failed to fill the void left by Andy Carroll's departure because the club's owners refused to sanction a £7 million deal for the former Fulham player Clint Dempsey.

Brendan Rodgers, the Liverpool manager, spent transfer deadline day trying to convince his hierarchy of the need to secure the American international.

Fenway Sports Group were unwilling to meet the price - understood to be £1 million above that quoted to other clubs - and now Rodgers faces the improbable task of leading Liverpool back into the Champions League with Luis Surez as the only experienced striker at the club.

As the clock ticked before the closure of the transfer window, it emerged that Rodgers was not just frantically negotiating with Dempsey's club Fulham, but also his own board as he argued his case on the merits of signing the 29-year-old.


Will Liverpool finish in the top half of the Premier League
Dempsey had earlier rejected the chance to join Aston Villa, desperate for Liverpool to re-open negotiations, before finally holding talks with Spurs. On another difficult day in the tumultuous recent history of the Merseyside club, it became apparent that one of the main stumbling blocks to a deal was FSG's new, restrained transfer policy and determination to enforce more prudent financial management.

Despite slashing the wage bill by millions, including offloading Carroll on the presumption it would free funds for a replacement, Rodgers was informed the fee for Dempsey was too high and that he could offer only up to £5  million. FSG were reluctant to spend significant money on a player in his late 20s entering the final year of his contract.

They have stated previously they would rather invest in young talent than those who will have no sell on value at the end of their contracts, and they are still reeling from the millions wasted by the previous management regime.

It seemed inconceivable as the deadline approached, having allowed Carroll to join West Ham on loan, that Rodgers would be left with only Surez as a senior striker, but that is the hand he has now been dealt until January. Should Surez suffer an injury in the next few months, Rodgers will have only Fabio Borini - signed predominantly as a wide man - as a realistic alternative.

The transfer window has provided a thorough education for the latest Anfield incumbent on the financial reality gripping the club. He may feel it has little in common with the public pronouncements when he joined Liverpool.

Chairman Tom Werner suggested last season that Liverpool could match the top clubs in Europe. "I would say we certainly have the resources to compete with anybody in football," he said on April 12.

At Rodgers's unveiling in June, a club statement went even further, suggesting the high spending of the previous management regime would not impact on the new coach's transfer plans.

It read: "The owners are always willing to provide funds where necessary to strengthen the squad.

"There will be no requirement to sell players this summer in order to fund new purchases."

These claims do not seem to tally with Rodgers's failure to get the green light to sign Dempsey, particularly given the number of senior players who have left since he was appointed, many of whom he was helpless to prevent departing. Numerous high-earning players have departed since the end of last season, including Dirk Kuyt, Craig Bellamy, Alberto Aquilani, Andy Carroll and Maxi Rodriguez.

Fabio Aurelio, Charlie Adam and Jay Spearing have also been moved on, equating to a conservative estimate of £20 million slashed in wages, and yet Rodgers still found himself pleading in vain for the funds to force through the Dempsey deal.

Liverpool also held talks with Chelsea for the loan signing of Daniel Sturridge, but the England international wanted to make the transfer permanent.

Rodgers possessed neither the funds nor the inclination to bid £15 million for his services and Sturridge was a substitute in Chelsea's Super Cup defeat in Monaco.

The early part of the day at Anfield was spent offloading players. Adam moved to Stoke for £4 million, Spearing headed to Bolton for a season's loan and youngsters Danny Wilson and Nathan Eccleston headed to Blackpool on loan.

If we pay over the odds the owners get slated, if they set a price and stick to that price they get slated. The mistake that was made was to announce the Carroll deal before the Dempsey deal was done. It gave Fulham the knowledge that they could hold out for what they wanted. Not the owners fault. Could be a blessing in disguise, as we needed to send a message that we are not going to pay over the odds any more. God knows we've been doing that for a long time now.

They got the club at a knock-down price. they tried a cash injection which didnt work.
they still have the option of selling up and doing ok.
wouldnt be at all surprised to see it happen
maybe i wouldnt mind too much either

Len

The question I would have then is why did we turn out the lights hours early (according to reports) if 5M was hypothetically available? Surely we could have found a youngster worth a punt at that price- a Guidetti, Volland, someone of that ilk?

What bothers me isn't what happened with Dempsey, but that apparently rather than trying to move to plan C, D, or E (which we didn't apparently have) and working to the end to try and bolster a depleted squad, everyone just gave up and went home.

RDL

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:58:00
Hi Eds,

In preseason I thought Pacheco was our best player and expected him to get a chance in the Europa league but obviously that hasn't happened. Do you think he'll get any game time at all now? Maybe he can make a difference.

KingHeskey {Ed052's Note - No. I don't think he will. Personally I think he should be released or loaned}

Ah ok thanks for the reply. Hopefully Morgan can take advantage of the opportunity then.

KingHeskey

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:57:29
just had a terrible thought what will happen if suarez gets injured...

Better touch some wood mate.

Red raj

Or banned??

We will be in the rubbish

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:51:12
eds is isaac cuenca still a free agent? and if he is do u think liverpool would approach him {Ed002's Note - Cuenca is not a free agent.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:49:05
With effectively £6m becoming available from the carroll deal (loan fee and wages covered) plus sales money from adam, can we expect in january for us to target a young but highley proven striker? I would expect to see ayre go, and someone who has sense to be able to get deals complete. I would not expect you to give names,but do the eds or Macca have any thoughts as to what will happen?

Red from the wood

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:48:57
First post after last night,

What I want to post (dumbed down for the kiddies on this site) is:

What the Flip!?! Flipping mother truckers! What the flip were they playing at last night?!? Way to flip up another transfer window you bar stewards!

What I feel obliged to say is:

It's ok folks, lets just forget about that poor show last night and get on with the season. We are weak up front for at least half a season but getting huffy an going on about how bad the window was wont help the club at all. Let's just see how we do before we bring on the moan brigade?

Noshbag

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:43:30
Eds . Any chance of Assaidi playing a part tomorrow ,our is he still not fully fit. Cheers psv {Ed002's Note - I really don't know. Sorry.}

The medical staff were amazed at his fitness during the medical so he is superfit. Question is over his readiness to step into the system but t won't be long especially as we now have few other options in his position.

Simon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:41:49
Is anyone else out there not devastated by the yesterday's events?
I agree that it is worrying that we are short of options up front but I feel this transfer window has been ok for us. I'm glad Adam, Spearing and Carroll have moved on in search of first team football elsewhere and good luck to them. It was clear from early on that BR didn't feel they had the correct technical ability to suit the style of play he is trying to implement at Liverpool. At least he had the courage of his convictions and moved them on. How divisive would their presence have been if they were moping around all season?
I'm also glad that we weren't desperately scrambling to get bodies in just before the window shut. It smacks of desperation and in our experience has resulted in some very expensive flops! (enough said) Could this be why fsg were so cautious - they've had their wallets burnt already!

Lets be positive about this - we've got Allen in (who looks fantastic) apparently Sahin is a super player (and I loved what he had to say yesterday - he's an ambitious lad) I loved Borini's attitude and endeavour against City last week. Sterling is a fantastic talent and BR isn't afraid to give him a shot - maybe he'll give Morgan a game as well.

I felt the whole 'Dempsey Affair' was messy and I think he could have done a good job for us but it didn't happen. On the other hand, he's in his late 20s and he'll never repeat his form of last season. Now lets hope Borini and Saurez can stay fit and Lucas can rehabilitate quickly. I'm not disappointed that we didn't sign a Walcott or a Sturridge. I don't feel either would improve the squad, simply added depth and both players are very into their own performance rather than the team (- just listen to any interview Theo Walcott gives - it's always about him. You'd swear he didn't play a team sport)

Tomorrow's game is massive for us now. A win represents a steady start whereas a defeat would leave us with 1 from a possible 9! I'm still feeling positive however - we've kept Agger and Skrtel, Enrique is fit, and we have young players who are bursting for the opportunity to impress. As a Liverpool fan, I'll back the team no matter what!

CD75

I agree completely with you. I believe we had a great transfer window, its ridiculous how much people are whining on not getting dempsey and losing carroll, what the f**k did he do for us last season. I'd prefer do give morgan or yesil a chance.

GlJosh

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:41:48
i hope we get drogba that would be immense!

Hes wages would probably ampount to 6mil on a year loan anyway so no hope there, wud av been gr8 4 a year
5gold stars {Ed052's Note - Firstly he is now a free agent, so w wouldn't get him on loan.

Secondly, he would cost lots more than 6m. You are looking at perhaps 180k a week. That's pretty much 10m.

You then have his signing on fee. You are looking at another couple of million, is not a bit more.

You have an agent fee also, add a bit more then.

Finally, you have bonuses. Per goal, thousands, 5 figure, no doubt.

Therefore, all in all you are looking at 15m for him. He may only score 8 goals, like he has in his last few seasons.


Then, at the end of te year we get nothing back for him.

Finally, all he does is dive, or fouls people. He gets the team a bad rep and picks up loads of cards.

Anyway, that's my view. I cannot see how you can possible say we should consider him, 2 million per goal seems a ridiculous waste.

Anyway, he would never ever come, he won't play in the premiership again, and only Chelsea.}

How much do you get for qualifying for CL again Eds?

Not trying to sound sarcastic but if the drog got us into CL it makes perfect business sense our season could be ruined by january due to lack of goals.

Hopefully we'll still be well in contention by jan and we can purchase Damiao, Llorente or someone and put this all behind us

Still cant believe we were offered Damiao for 3 mill loan fee then 13 mill at the end of the season and it messed up due to high wages...erm future superstar striker or a snip and we turn it down. Terrible business.

Shak Attack {Ed002's Note - For the group stages a club can expect to make perhaps £20M or so all in.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:39:53
Lads & Lassies,

Stop going on about Anelka and Drogba. They cannot sign for anyone in the EPL until Janurary. They became free agents after the window shut so have to wait it out. Too expensive anyway. Both were on 300,000K a week by all accounts.

Chi-Paul {Ed002's Note - If they become free agents they will be allowed to sign for other clubs as their owners would have been in breach of contract.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:52:14
hi eds and all,everyone seems to b blaming ayre today over us not getting anybody yesterday,but to me this is complete and utter bull,i believe br was well aware yesterday that we were not signing anybody,when he left yesterday at 6 o clock r so,if we were getting anybody he would of stayed,and if he was lead to believe otherwise by ayre r ;fsg' that there would b signings made he should have the balls to resign and tell fsg were to go with there false promises that they made to him if thats the case,ray

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:51:32
Ed now that we only have 2 strikers do you think the likes of Sterling will start more often? And Morgan?
Cheers mate,
DublinRed. {Ed002's Note - Two strikers arrived ijn this window. Morgan and Pacheco are still at the club.}

Pacheco is a striker now? news to me ed. Is that just for this year?

The Irish Rover

Pacheco was signed as a striker as was suso

So is Yesil going to be used in the first team?

I hope so. he's further along than morgan. morgan has promise but he's a loooong way from 1st team standard. (having said that, so was charlie adam ;) )

len

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:50:19
Been reading the posts of the last 2 hours and have to say that the eternal optimism is a credit to our supporters, but the apologists for Ian Ayre sicken me. When will the deluded people defending the guy realise that he is and always will be a liability when it comes to transfer dealings. He has made us a laughing stock in the press and amongst the ranks of the bitter fans of rival teams. I am sure he thought he was doing the right thing yesterday but he has left us seriously exposed and I for one would not let him run a bath let alone LFC. FSG need to remove him from his post if its proven he and he alone had the final say on transfer dealings yesterday.

Ben the Ball

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:48:43
Eds please answer if you can.
Do you know of any free Agents we could snap apart from Michael Owen? If Suarez was to get injured we are serious trouble. I think we can forget all about the top 4. I do not doubt Brendan Rodgers ability but if he doesn't have the correct players then how can he produce?
I am travelling to anfield tonight for the game tomorrow and I am lookin forward to feeling the atmosphere around the ground, will be strange I think. If Ian Ayre is at fault then he must go!
Kyle

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:33:43
Hi eds, just a quick one. I was just wondering, is there any connection between liverpool being short up the fro t end, emile heskey being a free agent and lfctv playing all the heskey goals as i type. I bloody hope not but just checking. A reply would be much appriciated. Keep up the good work eds. Cheers.
Jimmyred.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:29:23
Only read the first 15 posts and every one of them mentions either drogba anelka or owen. No wonder the eds get fed up.
Cant believe we got no one in yesterday, and now we have to go another season watching players play out of position, borini on the wing and suarez as main striker when we all know suarez creates more chances, borini offers nothing on the wing.
Kuyt bellamy maxi carrol all gone, borini in. So when we think of changing things in a match when it isnt working were supposed to rely on having morgan come on? ian ayre, what a to$$er, like a greasy used car salesman. Hope hes gone soon

KopBob

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:26:31
Is Ayre going ed's?

Thanks

LFCgreg {Ed052's Note - Maybe}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:24:05
Well with the transfer window out the way. Do you think that we will have any news on the stadium?

Seems a long time that we heard anything, and I am starting to fear that nothing will happen as per H&G.

YorksRed {Ed052's Note - Yes soon}

We wont be getting a new stadium, we cant even folk out a few million for a stiker that we need so bad. Where the hell is the money for a stadium coming from.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:21:53
hi, eds, read somewhere that carroll was off loaded because of financial reasons, and not just because he didnt fit in BRs plans....any truth in that?
And i more question what if 1 of our strikers get injured....can we get carroll back like we recalled shelvey last season around jan....thankx for ur reply.... {Ed052's Note - A bit}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:16:02
Ed do u think we should sign any one of drogba, anelka or del piero...they all knw where the back on the net is..cud be worth a punt...and also can we sign any of them for half a season...ie till the jan window opens...this way we can probably afford there wages and wont be short on strikers...and then we can get someone in january...
Shayan {Ed052's Note - No}

Sry to bother u again..bt thats no for no we should'nt sign any of them...or no we cant sign them till jan..or no to both my questions...
Shayan {Ed052's Note - No problem. Just no. Don't sign them at all!}

Thnx ed...wat wud i do without u guys...all u eds are just simple awesome...!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:14:57
The West Ham owners keep referring to the Andy Carroll deal as having an option to buy .

If they stay up , are they forced to buy ? Or is it another Aquilani style scam .

If they are forced to buy , that is not an option . {Ed052's Note - Only if he perfor
S }

 

 

01 Sep 2012 19:06:42
Ladies, Gentlemen. My first post here because I have my first (and possibly last) piece of authentic 'transfer gossip'.

As you may or may not know, I've recently undertaken a beginner's course in Mandarin Chinese. Three afternoons a week, I don my wife's authentic silk robes and long Fu Manchu moustache (also belong to my wife) and I travel into Liverpool's Chinatown when I attend lessons given by Master Kim (four feet five, heavily warted, £14.50 an hour). This afternoon's lesson took the form of a field trip and we travelled to a local illicit noodle den where Master Kim proceeded to teach me the ancient art of listening in to other people's conversations. Well, I'm not one to gossip outside my native language but using ears now attuned to Mandarin, I overheard Didier Drogba's agent agreeing terms with Liverpool for a six month contract. Mr. Drogba has agreed to dive for Liverpool and will be on a cash-per-penalty contact. He has also agreed to bring some authentic Ming nipple clamps back from China, which John W. Henry has promised to personally attach to Mr. Iain Ayres's already heavily bruised scrotum before showing him the door 'Boston-style' (i.e. closed and at very high speed).

I've double checked that I had my gerunds properly particled and the notes were verbatim which I'd scribbled in soya sauce onto my noodle napkin. Master Kim has also given me permission to post this information and to recommend his services to anybody wishing to learn Mandarin Chinese. I know many of you might doubt me but the conversation was definitely authentic because I heard Tom Warner's voice over the phone line and he was ranting that he hasn't felt this angry since Lisa Bonet brought her pet salamander onto the set of The Cosby Show.

Nigel Ping (not my real name)

Thanks Mr Ping

Nigel Ping (Not your real name),

Will replica authentic Ming nipple clamps be available in the club colours. If so, how much and when will they be available?

Carmen Sutra (not my real name)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:58:53
Was just wondering is sahin available to play tomorrow? {Ed002's Note - Yes.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:58:45
A disappointing day yesterday, absolutely, but there's nothing to be done about it now. Let's all just look forward to playing well with what we have.

There _are_ goals in the team, and with decent performances we should still be able to have a good season.

Let's hope we really get the ball rolling tomorrow at Anfield!

DK

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:55:04
Ed is lucas barrios going to be released from he contract with the chinese club? he would be great for us {Ed002's Note - You are simply clutching at straws.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:34:22
Hi eds! Has anyone got any news on contracts for suso and sterling has i think they have under 12months on there current deals?? {Ed002's Note - Suso I don't know. Sterling will likely be offered a 3.5 year deal in December.}

£3.5m a year?

That's 72k per week. more than Theo is getting right now. That's good anyway we gotta keep him.

Suso has to be kept as well. we need to start giving our Foreign starlets the same chances, this thing where Brits get special attention is Bull.

3.5 year contract!! Doh

The Irish Rover

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:32:59
i have managed to find out what went wrong on deadline day sturridge didn't come because chelsea weren't able to get schurrle ......? arsenal wanted to much for a player in the last year of his contract so no move was made there ......... damiao wage demands were higher than everyone already at the club apart from suarez and gerrard we will be signing owen on a pay as you play and in january expsct us to make moves for walcott and llorente MANY THANKS IQBAL {Ed002's Note - I explained earlier that the only approach made for Sturridge was for a loan move via his agent.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:42:45
drogba has been released on a free,lets get him in for 2 years would add some much needed firepower {Ed052's Note - Let's not}

Bringing Drogba in for whatever period would slow and hamper the development of Borini, Morgan, Yesil and any other youngster by an equal amount of time. And by the time he leaves we'd still have to look for another striker(s) and the youngsters would still be where they are now. What's the point? Better to throw the youngsters into the ring now, across the various competitions we are in, and let the chips fall where they may. There is no alternative to accumulating experience. ra1969

Morgan is useless. Did you see the Hearts game. Never gona make it. Rather Ngoo

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:42:35
Not much of a rumour but more of a question Eds, are there any strikers out of contract that we could sign excluding Owen?
Thanks {Ed052's Note - None that are good enough}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:29:24
calmed down a bit now after fuming last nite because i think we all think dempsey was nailed on wanted to come and when carroll left i just thought it was 100% on. i know he is 30 but when somebody scores 23 goals last season 6 mil is not expensive. im just thinkin to get a quality striker fsg r gona have to stump up 15 mil plus anyway to get 1. 6 mill wudnt even get doyle from wolves! a few seasons back we had torres and ngog as our only forwards,that was bad enough, but kuyt and bellamy could fill in. borroni has to chip in with goals now and him n saurez hopeully stay fit.............redman matt

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:27:21
hi eds, is this yesil guy any good or is he just another ngog.

kss {Ed001's Note - he is far better than Ngog.}

There is only one ngog

Then Yesil should be playing. Ngog wasn't that bad, he was better than Carroll (try to say i'm lying because you all know its true)

he had a better goal return for £3m

and they had about the same strength on the ball, Carroll was a Muppet.

Given the fact he hasnt played for us yet very hard to say

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:24:47
Eddoo1, I wud be grateful for your opinion on yesterdays events. Imo ian ayre shud be replaced as soon as because I think he's a clown and I also think that the owners personic behavour yesterday cud have a lasting effect on their relationship with BR as I believe he was undermined and must be furoius. Quote "I must be a nutcase to let carroll go ot on loan" I.e with no replacements. Edoo1 what is ur view please mate?

Melbourne' {Ed001's Note - I think Ayre has to be removed, with immediate effect, from his position. He had a very simple job to do yesterday, buy a player that was desperate to come, from a team who were happy to sell. If the money simply wasn't there, then don't mess about offering them players who are not going to want to go there, just pull out of the deal. Walk away from the table and leave it be. If the money was there, then do the damn deal, don't mess them about, not when you have made a mess earlier with the posting on the website announcing the deal. You have to pay for your mistakes, that was a huge mistake, we needed to put it right with them. A good leader would know that, he would know that good relations with other teams is essential when we don't have the money to just buy everyone off.}

Ed001(or any ED) would you consider keeping him on as a commercial/financial director working with Billy Hogan? To his credit he has done a fine job in respect to getting the Standard Chartered and Warrior kit deals. Or did he simply make too big of a blunder yesterday for you? {Ed001's Note - I am not being funny, but how difficult is it to sell a kit deal or advertising deal for a worldwide brand? I would get rid, like we should have done after his lack of leadership all last season.}

I think he just bid with no intention of getting anyone in. {Ed001's Note - Dempsey was led to believe that we were serious about signing him.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:22:38
Ed001, what do you think about playing Gerrad as striker coz he is better finisher then Suarez or Borini {Ed001's Note - but his strength is in bursting forward onto the ball, strikers very rarely get to do that. It is certainly an option if we get injuries though.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:42:06
Anelka and Drogba are free agents!!

So am I!

Redjinal

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:17:52
Sorry, I just don't buy all this nonsense about blaming Ayre for everything, the owners have to shoulder some of the blame.
Or is it truly a case of them not understanding, or so hellbent on reducing the wage bill that they lost track.
The transfer window was open for 6 plus weeks, there can be no excuses.
Are these owners and Ian Ayre 'fit and competent enough' to manage and run LFC, short answer 'NO'!.

Move on FSG, you are a joke!.

FSG Own the club. Henry / Werner have ZERO input or dealings with transfer negotiations. The only owners that do that kind of thing are Abramovich, Mike Ashley, and maybe sometimes Steve Morgan.

Ayre was appointed to run it as a commercial business. He sits down at the board table with the owners and produces a projection of what funds are needed after sitting down with the manager to predict what players are going out, who is being promoted and where the team needs strengthening.

Werner and Henry have no issue with finances but if they are told we need 30m to do our business and thats what they release, then that is what has to be spent.

If you deal badly with outgoings and don't meet your own predicted income then the money you have to spend is less, its very simple. If you allow the whole world to see you are desperate for something the price goes up. The whole world knew we were desperate to buy so why would they help a rival?

We have bought some excellent players in good deals.

Ayre has done exceptionally in the day to day business of the club but gets outgunned in football club matters compared to the commercial business deals. The deals signed over the last 18 months regarding sponsorship and commercial matters have all been excellent and put the club on a solid footing, better than the previous 2 sets of owners could ever have managed, yes he is no Peter Kenyon or Daniel Levy but lets remember just what he has achieved before he is put in front of a firing squad.

Bring in a Football Man to run that side of the business and let Ayre use his skills elsewhere within the business.

FatJanMolby

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:17:51
Ed's would you think Liverpool would go for Drogba and Owen, both free agents.. swallow some pride ? {Ed001's Note - nope, I wouldn't have thought so, unless there are injuries.}

Unless there are injuries? Wouldnt it make more sense to have some cover?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:17:10
Hi Eds, please can you tell me the options if Carroll has a good season for West Ham. Can we get him back even if they want to take the option to buy him? Any idea what price they would have to pay for him? He could have a market value of 25m in May and we might have already agreed a price of 18m. DeddyRed {Ed001's Note - I believe the deal is that, in the event of relegation he returns, if they stay up, he joins for 17m.}

Don't worry I don't think we will be relegated

I believe he had that clause removed from the contract otherwise he wasn't going

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:16:42
id love drogba on a 1 year deal..free agent


LFC-IRE {Ed052's Note - haha, if you pay 300k a week for him, why not. Is Drogba worth 15 million in wages people?}

He wouldn't get anywhere near £300K

Simple answer Ed052! If he can get us top 4 then he would be worth every penny

We badly need a striker, drogba is proven, im sure we could get him for far less than 300k a week, and even if we payed that, we must have reduced the wage bill by at least that much by now so a short term deal would make sense.

LFC-IRE

200 grand a week then
A SNIP???

For a player in his mid 30s


Lyndon

Given he was prepared to go play his football in a Mickey Mouse league for huge money, it's clear that Drogba's paycheck matters more to him than his football. So I would be surprised if he accepted anything less than a basic wage on par with Gerrard. Which is somewhere between £120k and £150k a week, depending on what source you believe. Hell I'd be surprised if he even accepted that. Then there'd be goal bonuses to think about. He'd also want a big signing on bonus as well. A £5m signing on bonus over a 2 year contract would be the guts another £50k a week and close to £100k a week over a 1 year deal.

£300k a week isn't as far from the mark as you think. And I'm sorry, but it's far too much for him. And here's the thing: someone else will offer him that.

If Rodgers feels like wasting a few minutes, I suppose he can have the club's admin staff make an enquiry with Drogba's agent, but I guarantee you their demands will be well above what is wise for us to pay. Otherwise he'd still be a Chelsea player.

- Something Red -

Would anyone pay 300k a week for him? I think no matter what if he wants to play again he's going to have to take a pay cut unless city or other big spenders go in for him,
Lpoolkris

For so.eone who can find the net in the premier league, deffinatley. We paid 35 mill for carrol pluss wages for 18 months. That twice as much! You eds dont know all u claim to. {Ed052's Note - Mate, Carroll didn't work, so your point makes nO sense. }

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:16:11
Any chance of bringing Drogba in now he's a free agent? We desperately need a proven goal scorer. {Ed052's Note - NOOOOOOOO}

Would just about undo all the good work that Rodgers has done. Singred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:15:43
Alright eds now that Drogba and Anelka have both been released, do u think that there's a chance we could sign one or both of them?

Aaron {Ed052's Note - no}

They have not been released its all nonsense

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:13:45
So §hanghai Shenhua have released Drogba and Anelka.

Thus they become free agents.

Which means they can be signed despite window being closed.

Wouldn't be too shabby if we could get Drogba for a year, no?

Singapore Red {Ed052's Note - it would, we could go insolvent with his huge wages}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:13:11
Drogba has been released.. surely he is worth a try? {Ed052's Note - no}

Ed052 yes he is... stop hating {Ed052's Note - It's an opinion. It would be a waste of money IMO}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:11:16
Thanks to all the eds for the once again brilliant work.

Much appreciated by me and the rest of the lads on here

Future looks bright for us even without a striker

LondonLiverbird {Ed052's Note - Cheers, it does yes}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:09:52
Drogba, Anelka and Owen all free agents. Surely gotta take a punt on one of them.

Any interest eds?

PD6 {Ed052's Note - no, as I say, why pay Drogba 300k a week when I am an equally good actor. I have perfected my dive now}

Drogba...Anelka....Owen

All still want BIG wages to go with their BIG egos !

No thanks

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:09:36
Hi Eds! Heard Anelka & Drogba have been released from Shanghai Shenhua. Have you heard anything about a move of either to us? Think either of them would be perfect! {Ed052's Note - no, we are not in the business of paying rubbish player 300k a week for falling on the floor}

He gets 200k a week

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:07:17
Ed any chance of us trying to bring in ivan klasnic, he is a free agent? {Ed002's Note - No idea.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:05:33
I doubt Drogba will sign for a prem club with all his Chelsea links but Anelka maybe

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:05:16
First time poster eds what do you think about the chance to sign dogba on a short term contract? {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers please.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:04:07
When opposing fans sing "you know what you are"
to Suarez, shall we not sing, "you know your a star"
at the same time, turn a negative into a positive, he will be playing alot this term.


you know your a star
you know your a staaaaaar
Luis Suarez
you know your a star

Great shout mate . Hope we do it tomorrow . Let's be load against arsenal tomorrow come on we are Liverpool .
YNWA

Jamesy

Nice one......hope The Kop read this and belt it out tomorrow !

Luis suarezzzzzz
we know your a star

 

 

01 Sep 2012 18:04:00
Real shame we can't sign a striker to address the Goal scoring problem, and far worse after sending Carroll out.

The deadline day failure I believe is due to many reasons,

1- FSG: What kind if owners are they? can't spend mare 6M on a player when we are so desperate. Of course Dempsey is old no sell on value but then why pursue him so much in the first place.
Difference of being a top 4 team might have been getting a player like Dempsey who can score goals. AM afraid we have blown a real chance in Dempsey.

2-Kenny Dalglish & Damien Commoli.
Dalglish, great player, manger, great man but he screwed the club and wasted hell lot of money.

THE BIGGEST WASTREL LFC HAS EVER SEEN AS A MANGER.

The wasted money is costing the club and would continue to do so for few years. Asa result in my eyes he has now become no better than Graeme Souness.

3-THe big headed deadwood, Spearing who messed up 3M deal and changed it to a loan deal, what the fuk is this little bug eyed freak thinking, returning home again, get lost....stay away from LFC.

Joe Cole- oh god he is like a cancer, another greedy chap who wants to fight for his 90K week wages and to improve his bank account rather than improve the team.

I said it even before, BR took too much time assessing the deadwood, no second thinking for the likes of Joe Cole, who we should have tried from moment he returned to ship him out. Was never good enough far worse with respect to his wage pack and what he offers.

How many of you guys would have liked if Dirk Kuyt stayed and Joe Cole left, Of course if Kuyt had stayed we have an experienced player who can play and give 100% everyday. 100 X better option than Joe Cole. Shame.. Shame... What a club has we turned out.

KEEP THAT COLE AWAY FROM THE TEAM. GREEDY BOY

Regardless of what has happened I believe we still can fight for top 4 spot, I hope BR gives the likes of Morgan & Ngoo a chance along with new signing Yessli, I am sure they can't do worse than Carroll or Joe Cole.

I hope BR gets enough funding for January window and he dose good scouting and get prepared for some shrewd but exciting signings.

My worries of FSG once again grew bigger, can't spend 6 million on a player, still no, news of Stadium issue, wonder whether they have even some plan or not.
Assure BR of signings but lied to him.

JW Henry, Tom Werner, No more sweet talks with no action, if there is get the hell out ..

Bosco

Souness was worse

Jamesy

Kenny done wonders for LFC

Admittedly his transfer picks did not work out as expected.

However SAF made lots of mistakes in the transfer market and they cost Utd more than Kenny's mistakes cost LFC the difference is Utd could afford them LFC cannot, is that Kenny fault, hardly.

AnCo

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:59:19
The supporters have been taken for mugs for the last 20 years. And u're only waking up now, when FSG is trying to un-muggify the club. The club needs to be self sustainable, it needs to generate its own transfer funds... When man united started having success in europe they expanded the stadium the marketed the club so to generate more income. When liverpool had success in europe none of that happened. So we have an 80's infrastructure that can't support the salaries of the new mellenium game. So much for holding onto the past... This club has been a dinosaur for the last twenty years, with owners in denial of how to take the club forward and stay in the black... FSG know they gotta undo before they do.and its better to go one season understaffed, ending in with a profit to be used for transfers and finishing 10th and a club repaired , than it would be to finish 8th, deep in debt, overpaid average players on the wage roll and without and means to sustain the overexpendature other than selling the club again, or end up like rangers.
There are a handful of clubs run as hobbies of the rich. But all the rest are businesses that need to sustain themselves. No use investing good money when you know its going into the pockets of overpaid average players contracted by previous owners. This season is just a spring cleaning.
YNWA The Pirate.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:55:23
One of anelkas big career regrets was not signing for Liverpool on permanent deal. Surely there would be a chance to make a name for himself. Go out with a bang. I no you will shoot me down and say no way but I disagree, I think there could be
Tommy.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:55:01
can someone please explane to me how fsg saved are club from adminstaration when if they never bought us it would of been kenny haung or one of the other 10 serouse candidates that broughten an co had identified!was fsg the only ppl who was going to pay off rbs? no so stop talking cr*p!they bought the club 250 million pound cheaper than mills fiance on the promise they would spend that money on players!net spend is just under 50 mill in 4 windows!50 mill is what kenny haung promised in the first window and further funds afterwards!we are being taken for ride,this club makes 220 million a season an we carnt pay 2 mill for a player that would repay that in shirt sales in the states alone!
deano mcc {Ed002's Note - Kenny Huang was a charlatan. Try the search function - I explained all of this at the time.}

So their was only fsg who wanted to buy us?i seem to remember an indian tycoon a singapore bid the mills fianance that hicks an gillett wanted cause they had offered 550mill.i remember broughton saying they was 3 proper candidates thats had passed their due dillagents process of them.my point is fsg didnt save us from administration cause they wernt the only ppl who were prepared to pay rbs off.
deano mcc {Ed002's Note - There were a couple of other interested parties - hence the ongoing court cases. And your figures are incorrect - Liverpool do not have income of anything like £220M per year - it is more like £180M - unless you are using some other currency. You also need to know that the money from shirt sales does not go to Liverpool - it goes to Warrior.

Certainly there are fans who don't deserve FSG as owners.}

Its ok for a chelsea fan to believe we should be spending like a mid table team and should have owners want mid table spending!we are liverpool fc club an we deserve better than that!we dont have mid table support who believe we should sit in mid table for the next 3 years.we are one of the best supported clubs around the world!no my freind fsg dont deserve us!
deano mcc {Ed002's Note - Just drive them out then. I suspect the sustained abuse of Mrs Henry on Twitter is helping your cause.}

The only people who made bids were FSG and Huang.

More people may have been sniffing around, but they didn't make bids.

- Something Red -

Ed002 you know you're wrong so then you change the topic. If not fsg, there was another bid and countless more would have bidded later. The others would have had more ambition then these americans who obv dont know what they have got themselves into, or anything about football for that matter. Just another pair of business minded americans. At least arabs and russians use their money because they are football fans as well.

Hounsred {Ed002's Note - There was no later. Kenny Huang was a charlatan. The money from shirt sales does not go to the club. The turnover is not £220M. What was wrong?}

Hounesred glad 2 see thier are liverpool fans on here understand the basic concepts of what has happened here!ed002 is picking me up on minor detials rather than answering the question did fsg save livepool fron administraion which is yes but so could of at least 10 other options that wernt giving the chance cause ian ayres an purslow an broughton wanted fsg cause they told them they would spend 250 mill on the players an stadium!which they avnt!
deano mcc

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:53:39
Just want to say HUGE thank you and appreciation too all the eds on the site especially ed001 (the creator the architect) you all do a fantastic job running frankly the best football site there is, awesome. YNWA

Square tomato

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:48:21
a lot of results have gone in our favour today, hopefully we will win tomorrow and then we all start getting champions league fever again! on a side note, west brom are flying! well done clarke!

john

Yup none of your relegation competition picked up points increasing your chances of staying up this season

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:51:42
Let's not panic just yet. Worth remembering how well Spain did in the euros with NO strikers! I expect our much improved midfielders to start contributing more goals this season.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:51:14
Ed - is the new contract for Agger on the table? Is he going to sign? Surely with so many outs, we can reward him with a bigger pay package. Singred {Ed002's Note - I don't know that there is an offer right now.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:51:08
We need to understand what actually went wrong before we start blaming anyone. If as everyone suspects it was Ayre fault, then he will surely lose his job. If it was an FSG decision then if nothing else, we will understand their thinking.

Either way, Brendan Rogers and all the supporters worldwide were badly let down, and of course we need a full explanation of events and reasoning.

We still have a superb bunch of players and exciting times are certainly ahead for our youngsters, but to us supporters, this appears to have been an unholy c**kup

We need to remain calm and rational until the truth comes out

Tel 1949

Spot on...

dd

"badly let down"
Did I miss the press conference where Brendan Rodgers said we were buying Messi on deadline day.
How can you feel badly let down when you don't know what was happening in the first place?
Brendan Rodgers will prove his worth now that the window is shut. He knows what he has got to work with and it is a lot more than what he had at Swansea and look at what he did there.
Brendan Rodgers said he would love to have signed a couple of players last night and for whatever reason it did not happen.
All that matters now is to get a win tomorrow and fill this young squad with a bit of confidence and see where it takes us.
jonnybarnes89-90

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:50:29
!! Anelka and drogba released by shanghai, we should sign one of them!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:50:15
Didier Drogba free agent..
Here is your chance to make up for yesterday Liverpool..
His wages will be high and hes getting old but on a free he would be a great addition..
Snap him up BR!:D
DublinRed.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:50:14
geordie here in peace i see Andy Carroll had a blinder for west ham today ...just wondering what you scousers think about what happened with AC ? ...geordie tom

I think I am a little upset, but I am glad Andy is getting some game time and seems to be having a blinder from what I hear. I hope he isn't badly injured.

JitB JFT96
YNWA

Hi mate , most fans agree that it was bad dealings by whoever at anfield ( I A ) but I still think we have a squad capable of doing good things this season . Liverpool supporter from the northeast .
YNWA

Jamesy

Andy playing well for West ham is no surprise, they play the sort of football that suits him. People need to realise that if he scores 20 goals this season it's because of the style of football they play, he would NOT score 20 goals for us.
So, good to see him playing, wish him all the best for his career, but he's not and never was a Liverpool player in my opinion. We move on, he moves on, end of story.

The captain

Hi geordie friend i for one am very happy to see andy carroll playing and looking good i dont think he had a fair crack of the whip with us, and ive always said , if he left it could come back and bite us on the bum!!! steviep62

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:48:27
City is really over rated. The only outstanding players are augero & toure. Tevez silva & balotelli can be considered very good but not what I consider irreplaceable. Our midfield is the best in the league. Even with lucas injured because it is so balanced with perfect blend of defensive & attacking elements. Allen & Sahin will rule any midfield in the league shelvey will be shining if given the chance or Gerrard but I would let gerrard all out attack. He would be just like Rooney & score for fun. I'm signing cause by January even the people who think I'm delusional will see. SLODGE

The best? An unproven Allen, sahin who spent most of last season injured and an aging and increasingly less influential Gerard? Get a grip

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:47:31
Hello Macca
any truth in the rumour that Ian Ayre could be moved out ?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:47:16
eds could you lot potentially create a page or list of some sort of all the free agents who are available at the moment and what do you think of all this owen rubbish returning to LFC.

Rays Of Red {Ed002's Note - There you go: tinyurl.com/c8vbkqd }

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:45:25
Hi eds. With the obvious need for a forward, and drogba being released by his Chinese team. Do we stand any chance? Or wages and Ian Ayre the issue?

Ktown red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:45:23
So much for money making top4 spurs drew and nearly lost,everton lost 2-0,lets silence the guns on sunday to creep up the table and have a great start to our best season for years -SALLY-

Everton lost to west brom as well :D
sack the manager the board & the players, abandon ship everton are going down, notice they can lose to wb but not such a big fuss is made by the media

Everton were going to win the league yesterday if you listened to their fans, as they have the best squad in the league.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:43:23
Brendan Rodgers will be given money for a striker in january, no doubt about it. 2 strikers will be bought in, sturridge on loan till the end of the season and Edin Dzeko. {Ed002's Note - Chelsea has made it clear that Sturridge is not available for loan.}

Problem with buying ion January is you have to pay over the odds. And every team on the planet knows we will be after a striker so the minute we sniff round one the price will rocket. RED LENIN

Yes that will be clever, wait until january when our seasons all but over and buy 2 strikers in the most inflated market going as your potantially buying 2 teams top scorers or best players, if they didn't fre the funds up in the summer they certainly ain't going to do it in january when it will cost double !

Sadly, RED LENIN couldnt have hit the button anymore if he tried. That is exactly what our problem will be in January.

Carb

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:42:37
Eds do west ham have a option to buy Carroll at the end of the season? {Ed001's Note - yes.}

Could they buy him in january if west ham wanted to?

JR

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:39:16
everyone is saying lay off br its not his fault but i say he was far too busy getting rid of the few players on this team who could score goals

What is so hard to understand about it? he was instructed to reduce the wage bill before he signed anymore players which he clearly did then wasn't backed with the funds to sign dempsey. Simple as that mate so lay off him!

Ian The Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:38:09
Afternoon eds fellow reds , both drogba and Anelka been released .worth a punt .what age is Anelka cheers psv {Ed001's Note - 33.}

Take them both till the end of the season.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:37:09
i wonder if drogba or anelka could find them selves in a red shirt for a season?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:37:08
I think LFC should try and get either one of the following free agents quickly at all cost;
1. Michael Owen
2. Didier Drogba
YNWA

Which is the lesser of two evils?

Cuchulainn's Hounds

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:36:55
has drogba been released by the chinesse club? if so would he be an option?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:36:27
It might seem a daft comment, but with the dissapointment of Liverpool not signing anyone yesterday, even though Rodgers indicated that maybe at least 1 would be made, I am expecting Rodgers to make an enquiry about Michael Owen, even if its just to add a bit more depth to the forwards. Athough he went to the hated, I would still have him back for a short term solution.... If he's fit, he can score goals, and we need goal scorers. Would be a cheaper alternative than to sign Drogba or Anelka, and we know that FSG don't want to pay over inflated wages, but I would like to see Anelka rather than Owen at the club if possible, regardless of wage difference.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:36:00
As im sure that the Eds have heard, do you think that we could go in for Drogba since hes fallent out in china, do u think we could seriously consider him as cover upront , with him being a free agent and all ?

Thanks in Advance. {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:35:50
Hi Eds,

What are the chances of Drogba becoming a free agent?

If so, would both parties be interested?

Thanks,

Eddie {Ed002's Note - He will become a free agent. There has been interest shown in him by a number of clubs as I explained.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:35:34
Anelka and Drogba have apparently been released by Shanghai Shenhua, and I know there is basically no chance of Drogba, but what about Anelka on a free, Ed's?
Cheers
Unagi {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:34:40
for ed002

1. you disappear for last few days of transfer window
2. you're "conveniently" back the day after the window closes
3. you have an intimate knowledge of which teams are interested in players from most major leagues in europe and around the world
4. you know a lot about how the finances regarding transfers and within a club work
5. you've mentioned before that you speak to scouts and agents
6. you hardly get anything wrong

all of this leads me to 1 conclusion...... you are the guy who sells the hats scarves and badges outside anfield :)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:33:34
ed002 if carol plays well this season can we have him back if we want him or do west ham have the first say if they want him? might be a silly question but im not sure on how it works

cheers {Ed002's Note - I don't know the terms of the deal - but will try and find out.}

I think the terms of the deal are that we cannot recall him.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:27:41
Did anybody else hear that Drogba has been released from his contract because they can't afford to pay him?! I know we would face massive competition but is there even half a chance he could be an option with us being so desperate for a striker?

Come on, think it through. One of the only positives of this window is the wage bill has been cut. We're not going to blow it all on Drogba's £200,000 a week wages.

JitB JFT96
YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:26:07
Didier Drogba is a free agent. Would be a good signing as cover if we could reach an agreement with his wages!

Drogba would be VERY expensive cover, Anelka would be a bit cheaper and would be more likely to sign, Owen would be even cheaper, and is desperate for a club. These 3 would only provide cover and depth for the forwards, Can't see Drogba playing for Liverpool any how, but I'd say that the other 2 would sign.

Well if he cared about the quality of the league he was in more than his wages and contract length, he'd still be a Chelsea player. So I reckon we'd have to pay him at least £120k a week (probably more) for 2 years. With a signing on fee in the millions. For cover.

Yeah... no.

- Something Red -

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:25:04
Now we have the opportunity Drogba can leave the chinese club so we should get him on a 1-year contract fast. Hes a really good quality player and would come free just high wages but that we can afford because hes free!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:23:57
Hi All, I posted last night with my opinion regarding FSG but more importantly LFC. My opinion is that Liverpool is a business and FSG are good business managers, also that it is better to sign players that really want to play for liverpool than prima donnas who just want the wage packet at the end of the month. In that post, I never mentioned a player in particular but Mr Dempseys name was thrown back at me stating that he really did want to play for LFC.

Well how true is this? IF Clint really wanted to play for Liverpool then he would be adorned in red for the Arsenal game tomorrow. He would have placed his boots on Jols table, situated his red socked feet on Jols desk and requested a transfer. Then when the Spuds came in good ol Clint would have politely said "erm no, I really want to play for LFC" and so it would have been.

Okay, I know Ayre is the wrong man for the job and I know we should have signed him but we didnt. He is 29, had one year left on his contract and in my opinion personal terms were important to him.

Do we know what his wage demand was?

Fact is LFC needs to profit to grow and if we had landed him for our bid price it would have been good and Ayre would have lived a little longer.

As I am aware, City spent 37 mil last night and we spent about 30 mil in the entire window. Not that bad really and mark these words, young Assaidi will quad in value over the next 3 years.

Borini, I wouldnt give house room to.

Alan is quality and the youth in particular Sterling are going to make a long term difference.

LFC will be okay.

Sorry but I'm not settling for "Okay"

Not settling for okay? Implies that okay has a scale attached to it and certainly suggests a better outcome than not okay.

What is okay in your book?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:23:20
Eds/Reds

Is Nacho any good he never seems to play when i check, Is he injured, noot good enough ?

Thought he was another Pacheco-Suso type or is he abit of a let down ?

Cheers UCCM {Ed019's Note - Not ready}

He links up well with cheese

You mean for the U18s Ed ?

U18s played and lost today and Nacho wasn't in the squad are there just better option's at the accademy ?

Cheers UCCM

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:25:44
I was really disappointed last night that we didn't sign a goal scorer, for me at least this was our problem last season...and I don't feel we have fixed this issue. I wont pretend to understand what went wrong but it happened and there's nothing we can do about it. We have a big game tomorrow and its time to get behind the team because its not the players fault (I don't blame Rodgers either, from his interviews he seemed quite positive that we were bringing in a few strikers).
No matter how negative the fans are the reality is our squad has improved, Allen, Sahin, Borini, Assaidi and Yesil are potentially a major improvement and with youngsters like Sterling and Suso fighting to get into the team I personally believe we could have a really good season. Last Sunday as I watched the match what impressed me the most wasn't the passing game we played or even the great performance by certain players..what impressed me the most was the fans...they were amazing...and I really hope we all being our A-game tomorrow.

We are known has the best supporters in the league... its time to start acting like it,
Bazingaa

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:22:08
Ed drogba anelka and Owen all available on free agents do u think there's any chance of a 6 month deal for any of them especially he s a big impact player {Ed002's Note - Earlier answers deal with this.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:21:14
drogba released by shanguai. gotta be worth a punt as a free agent. still got it, knows premier league inside out and we are short on strikers. makes sense to me to at least contact him

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:21:10
drogba as been released . well that would change a lot of things lol

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:20:25
I can't believe people are still making excuses for FSG. What they did yesterday was the worst thing I have ever seen in 50 years of supporting the club.

We are in 4 competitions and have 2 strikers. Even forgetting about injuries and suspensions, they will have to play virtually every game. Also, we can't even bring anyone off the bench to change a game. Morgan isn't ready and, even when he is, I'm not sure he will be up to it. If running around like a headless chicken gets you noticed now at Liverpool, it shows how far we have declined.

Assuming Dempsey gets 15 goals a season, that is a 30 goal swing to one of our rivals for 4th spot. Not sanctioning an extra couple of million for a proven Premiership goalscorer is not even a good business decision. Dempsey's goals could have easily paid off the extra fee by more bonus money for higher placings in the league.

Finally, if you are still not convinced what FSG are really about, consider what THEY themselves have already said. Their policy is to buy young to develop, with a sell on value. That means we buy players cheap when they are young and are on low wages. Then, if any are successful and would expect higher wages, they would be sold on for profit, to win trophies for somebody else.

Their vision for Liverpool is not one of Barcelona or Real Madrid. Their vision is of Ajax, who produce and sell their best players for profit. THAT IS THEIR POLICY - what more do you need to know? Within 2 years, if this lot stay, we will be like Arsenal. No trophies but always capable of making some profit by selling our best players.

Ian Ayre will probably be the fall guy for the flak they are getting. I can't believe he wasn't on the phone to them, saying he needed an extra couple of million to clinch the Dempsey deal. So it is pretty clear that FSG refused to sanction.

They are trying to take Liverpool supporters for mugs.

redmersey

Redmersey mate we are not allowed to queston our owners especially when ED2 SAYS THEY ARE ONE OF THE BEST OWNERS haha YONKS OUT I'm sure these are same people supported hicks and gillet

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:19:48
This is becoming rdiculous, there are ''FSG out'' pages now on facebook.......why.......because we failed to get Dempsey, forget the fact they saved us from administration, forget the fact they gave the fans what they wanted in KK, forget the fact we are currently playing some of the best football in many years and forget the fact that they brought in some of the biggest sponsors in the EPL.............they never got Dempsey!! It's rediculous!

MR EM

Got to agree mate I was upset last night but I agree fully what you have said . It doesn't help when you watch the deadline when you have had a skin full .

Jamesy

I'm tempted to make a Facebook account entirely for the purpose of registering my disagreement on those pages. Just to make sure FSG know that most Liverpool fans still have functioning cerebellums.

- Something Red -

Yes go back to bed , there's nothing to see here , keep drinking the Kop Kool Aid.
We kept quiet while H&G almost ran us into the ground, it won't happen again.

The Freewheeling Mark Arm

We kept quiet when H&G almost ran the club into the ground?

That's news to me. I must've imagined all the protests at the games and SoS and the support for Rafa after the "I am focused on coaching and training the team" press conferenence.

What a vivid imagination I have.

- Something Red -

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:18:47
ED, would you think there is any chance of Anelka now? He's no spring chicken but surely there is a better chance than of Drogba (which will never happen) {Ed002's Note - I am not convinced that he would want to return to England.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:17:31
Drogba allegedly released. Heading to LFC? Would snap him up in a heartbeat. Forget about the wages. We need a striker.

Forget the wages!!

Another Succesful Businessman no Doubt!!

Lyndon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:16:51
5 great signings in this window. Keep calm, just because we missed one on deadline day we shouldn't at throw the rattle out of the pram. Bright future ahead.

SioLFC.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:16:13
Hi eds, is it true that Anelka & Drogba have been released? If it is, any chance of Liverpool getting either of them on a free? {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:11:12
Drogba and Anelka are realeased by Shanghai, they are free agents now. Drogba wouldn't want to play for anyone else in the league except Chelsea, but we could get Anelka? Something's better than nothing. We need someone who knows where the net is. What do you think Eds?
Furqan. {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:10:42
Come back Kenny. We're short of strikers!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:15:16
Drogba and Anelka are released by Shanghai Shenhua, and they are now free agents..we are desperate for a striker at the moment, so any 1 of them signing would be a big boost for us..but huge salary may hinder the transfer..BUT STILL !!
rameshbaralpkrnepal {Ed019's Note - Why pay huge salaries for backup strikers}

We may well have done previously but I feel the last months activity show's we're not being foolish with outgoings from now on. Unless you're going to tell me Borinni or Assaidi are on 90k a week?

FatJanMolby

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:15:04
Drogba for a season or two anyone? I'd take him! Superb player, high wages but will score goals all day long! {Ed019's Note - Nononono}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:10:13
Another draw and lacklustre performance from tottenham today, if we play as well tomorrow against arsenal as we did against Man city I'm sure we will win the game as arsenal look toothless to me and lightweight.
Plenty of positives people in our chase for the top four, positive support is what we need now. Just see how Sahin and Allen get our midfield purring. We are in with a much better shout than people are giving us credit for, just get behind the team and spur them on. That is all.

The captain

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:10:11
Didier Drogba released on free by Shanghai Shenhua apparently?

Surely worth a punt for a season? (if he'd play for another PL club other than chelsea?)

Shak Attack {Ed002's Note - He left Chelsea because the offer was for a one year deal and not two.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:07:49
i think our team looks rather good this season, contrary to popular belief. Another striker would be good, but the team that nearly beat man city last week did not include Sahin, lucas (for most of the match), assaidi or a fully fit enrique.. things look fine.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:03:37
Could any eds clear up what buy back clauses do they have for yesil? Thanks {Ed002's Note - I have no knowledge of his contract. Sorry.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:11:09
People forget the club is going to be run as a self sustaining business.....I think what we have done in this window getting rid of some big earners who arent going to play yet drain the club of cash has been fantastic. shame we just could`nt move Joe cole on.Our global fan base is Easily in the top 5 to 10 in world football, bring through the youth, help fund new stadium or re-develop anfield, increase revenues, future is brighter than alot of people realise....Time and patience......YNWA.

77to2005

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:10:56
Stick Coates up front, we could do with a big man up there, ;-)
Huddz red

True he is more mobile than carroll.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:09:40
Ok we didn't get what we all wanted yesterday but we need to get behind the team and BR. Tricky few games coming up but run into new year is not too bad. Look at Spain they don't play with a striker. Towards last season people were crying out for the youngsters to get a chance, now they will and I have no doubt that they will show their value. Chins up and get behind the team, be the 12th man in Anfield. LFC till I die Noel

Well said!

FatJanMolby

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:09:31
Wish people would grow up a bit, it's not the end of the bleeding world. We've brought some good players in, have some promising youth players to come through and most importantly we seem to have a manager who seems to know what he's doing. The owners are not running a charity, why should they chuck tens of millions around on unproven foreign superstars after the disaster of last seasons spending? They're running as a business, let's just see where this all goes.
Could be worse, we could have AVB in charge! Funny to see spuds fans calling for his head already. Dodged a bullet there. Beat Arsenal tomorrow and the winds of victory will blow all of the doubters and fair-weather fans back into the positive.

Square Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:09:31
I know everyone is disappointed we didnt sign Falcao, Damaio, Dempsey, Sturridge, Huntelaar or any other striker.

By all accounts Ian Ayre is taking the wrap from above and below and looks like he could be on his way if what is read is to be believed.

Everyone saying FSG are ruining this club really needs to calm down. Carrol left on the understanding that Dempsey & Sturridge would come in from what I believe. Sturridge turned down the move on personal terms as he wante a permanent move not a loan. Agreement had been reached with CFC, nothing to do with the owners or the manager, he just didnt want to come after earlier being sounded out.

The management team tried hard to get Dempsey but no deal could be reached with Fulham over the fee, we would not reach their valuation of the player, simple as that, I'm not sure if the asking price for us was different to other clubs but if Fulham have other offers they prefer and don't want to do business with us they don't have to.

I personally believe the buys we have made have been good, before yesterday I was happy with the business done so far and anything else would have been a bonus.

Kuyt was an excellent servant but never good enough a ball player to play in 4-3-3 and no where near quick enough. He simply wasn't good enough and had to go

Aquilani didnt want to be in England, we can't keep a player on 80k a week to play him only in away Europa Cup ties.

Maxi - Wanted to go home, a good player but hardly got a game last year and didnt look like getting any more this.

Spearing - Did anyone think he was going to get a game ahead of Allen, Sahin, Gerrard??

Adam - I thiink about 98% of LFC fans were happy this guy was shipped out.

Aurelio - Probably shouldn't have re-signed after we released him the first time.

Andy Carrol - I think personally we got the best option possible. A striker that scores 6 goals in a prem season that would get maybe 15 sub appearances this year. He's gone to a club where he is going to play 90min after 90 min, be the focus of everything West Ham do and improve. We may not want him but his value is only going to rise at WHUFC whilst they are paying all his wages.

Bellamy - Women! Why do you always ruin everything. This I think is the one we shouldn't have let go. Old maybe but a perfect left sided forward for our 4-3-3 and really wish we'd kept him.

No everyone who's complaining about no strikers being signed. Step forward Mr Steven Gerrard. With Sahin in and Shelvey playing well SG will move forward

Our attacking players

Suarez
Borrini
Gerrard
Sterling
Ossaidi
Yesil

Suarez SHOULD improve in front of goal, Borrini I have said I believe will be an excellent striker given some time, encouragement and confidence from US the fans. Gerrard is an excellent finisher no matter what anyone says he cannot do Box to Box anymore so let him stay in the oppositions box...

With Sterling, Ossaidi and Yesil all injecting much needed pace into the side those 6 look dangerous in a number of combinations especially with the passing and quality of Sahin & Allen feeding them

The biggest problem area I have thought for a while has been LB, with Enrique not providing the pace, quickness of thought or passing ability going forward that our wing backs need to. With Downing being in that position I'm really hopeful he can be as good their as Baines is for the blues.


Get behind the players we have, stop moaning about the ones we don't have. Rodgers is doing better at moulding a balanced team than any LFC manager has for a generation and I for one am happy that the next 15 years looks very bright. Don't sound like spoilt, ungrateful Arsenal fans and lets be the kind of Liverpool fans the world respected 10 years ago rather than the wingeing moaning lifeless gooners who'll be here tomorrow!

You'll Never Walk Alone


FatJanMolby

Great post.

This is a great post :) u know mabee we can un-earth a new gerrard or fowler from the youth we have that mabee would not of had a chance before... Remember 'at the end of the storm is a golden sky'
I was angry last night but are things really that bad i think now... So lets push on, no point in moaning it aint gonna help! YNWA remeber that
Rickblfc....

Brilliant post, well said.
What people are missing is the fact that compared to spurs and arsenal (in my opinion our closest rivals for the top 4) we have forward momentum and a clear plan in place for the first time in years. Both of those clubs seem to be suffering a malaise of sorts. Just support the boys for christs sake!

The captain

At last a sensible, considered and realistic view on our great club. The reality is that Suarez will head the front 3 for ost of the games and we have a multitude of options now left and right of him. Yes he can be a bit sloppy in front of goal but anyone who understands football will know that he creates space and opportunities for others. This is a style of football which is current and will have longevity and not the short termist Clint Dempsey merchants who really are a little clueless. They probably like watching reality TV shows on a loop...... {Ed001's Note - nothing short term about bringing in Dempsey, what a ridiculous thing to say. He is 29, he is not a player reliant on pace, so he should be able to play at his top level until he is 35. That is 6 years, what is short term about that?}

I was not saying bringing in Clint Dempsey was short termist. Instead I was using this as an example of people who jump on certain bandwagons thinking that popularity is the answer. He would have been a useful addition, but we need to get over it and look at a much bigger picture. So we messed up over one deal yesterday, get a grip.

I am still laughing at this one : "best ...manager..moulding a team.. in a generation...".

Are you a blue in disguise. Brenda hasn't won anything or created any system. Did you see Hearts game or West Brom. And surrendered a lead to half awake Coty. What moulding are youon about.

There was an engine of a team that delivered two cup finals and European football for a net investment of around £60m last season. That's been dismantled to gamble on a 'system' proven at a championship club.

Brenda may be a good coach but he is no manager. Squandering the relationship of your squads morale by hounding Carroll when since last season everyone knew that the main and only priority was to Strenthen The Strikers. Dominant football last season didn't convert to enough goals. So top of list strikers. But no, Brenda targets two midfilders, Allen, Borini, for £25m, when he could have added any one of the top strikers bought by lesser clubs in the transfer window.

And to add insult not even the new additions were required. You could say £25m was spent unnecessarily. The ONLY priority was a striker.

Lets see how many teams this year get two cup finals and European football for net £60m investment. The Euro income alone will gift £7-8m to the coffers courtesy of last season efforts, despite Brenda nearly throwing it as a gift to Hearts. As Carroll found today, winning is better than a good looking loser.

So ed oo1. Is our new managers team not centred around pace and dynamic movement of the front 3? Is that not why Carroll was let go? We all have our opinions and we all want the best for our club, I have no doubt about that but lets be realistic and not worry too much about a fairly decent prem player with a fairly decent prem record who we didn't manage to get last night. There is a bigger picture than this and I doubt that the net result of his signature alone would equate to many if any more points than we will achieve this season or next. We have Suarez, Borini, Assaidi, Sterling (sparingly), Gerrard and Cole who can chip in until we find another solution if necessary in Januuary. {Ed001's Note - movement doesn't mean the same as pace, we want movement not just outright pace. Otherwise everyone would be trying to sign Usain Bolt! Look at some of the better strikers around, they can offer movement and creativity without needing to be lightning fast. Dempsey is very good at getting his body between the defender and the ball and receiving. He creates himself space, attacks the ball well in the box, all the things we need. This is not FIFA, pace is not essential and we are not only looking at pace. You clearly have no idea about the system we are looking to play, or you would know it has nothing to do with pace.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:08:27
Move in for Drogba now!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:08:18
just heard that drogba has been released.....

would you take him? {Ed019's Note - No chance}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:06:50
Just heard anelka & drogba have been released, any chance of either one of these eds?

M {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers. Keep in mind, that a significant signing on fee and significant wages would be required.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:06:17
Drogba released , cant we get him now hes a free agent {Ed019's Note - No, he'll ask for Astronomical wages, he'll go to Qatar or some place like that imo. He's Chelsea through & through anyway, would rather take back owen}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:03:11
well there is the blue noses bubble burst and the spuds are doing well after hijacking all of our buys!!!

Its a funny old game!

Mike S

Spuds played horrible. So did sig.

Yes i was being ironic Spurs were shocking, thats the point i was making :-)

Mike S

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:02:17
Hi eds and reds!

Apparently Drogba has been released by Shanghai so he is FREE AGENT.Do you think we will go for him?He had mentioned that he had joined Shanghai for experience not for money and eds pls post this I am pleading you!

Aneesh {Ed002's Note - See previous answer Aneesh.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:01:30
Did u enjoy your 55 minutes Gylfi?? Hahha sorry had to say it

red moose

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:01:27
Yesil will train and be apart of the first team, he has been added to the first team player profiles on official LFC site.

no number yet though.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 17:00:33
Hi eds did/do we have any interest in Michu? I know we've got quite a few midfielders but he has been AMAZING for Swansea.

Dan from Preston {Ed019's Note - He just signed for Swansea}

We had interest in him before he signed for swansea but once again he was over looked.

ACHILLES.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:59:48
Ed is it true drogba has been released? We do need a goal scorer.
Cheers {Ed019's Note - Yes}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:59:36
Quite frankly I am shocked by many of our so called "fans". Yes FSG or Ayre messed up yesterday. But the world isn't about to end. We are still the same team that out played City last week. I don't see any benefit in spewing our rage on the internet. I don't see any benefit in getting the banners out again to get rid of the owners. I don't see any benefit in starting rallys against them. I'm sure they realise and hopefully have learnt from their mistake. Let's see how the team we have gels under Rodgers and see if we need/get someone in Jan.

JitB JFT96
YNWA

A lot of the things being said are truly shocking!

and more than likely come from the "Sports Direct Customer"' type of fan!!

Lyndon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:55:57
Drogba released pull out all the stops LFC Drogba and Owen pls.

If only to see Torres face :)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:54:50
, Ed002 has emerged as the favorite to take Ian Ayre's job after FSG has sacked him for his fiasco for not bringing any players last night.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:58:51
hey lfc fans............

now that we are short of strikers....................STEVEN GERRARD MUST GET IN THE DAMN BOX AND SCORE MORE GOALS!!!!!
lead by example mr gerrard if you are playing behind suarez.........its as simple as that now?

i always see kevin nolan getting in the box...sigurdson and michu........he has to step up...or if he doesnt wanna do it..............play the role alongside allen..and let shelvey be the one further forward....

do u agree eds that others need to start getting in there?

red lobster {Ed019's Note - Yes}

Gerrard can score goals if he's played that far up the pitch. His shooting technique both long and short is outstanding. He's easily the best finisher at the club.

But if he's not given licence to get into the box from the manager, what's he supposed to do? Be an irresponsible jackass and leave gaps in the middle and have our passing moves breakdown?

- Something Red -

I say play Gerrard as a CF. We have the depth in midfield and we can have Suarez and Sterling supporting him. He is a great finisher, decent header of the ball, and can hold up play. Why not?

TravisLeeLFC

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:57:46
Nice to hear that spurs got booed off today. And Fulham got stuffed.

Red Machine

Spurs are a small time club anyway

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:16:27
Eds great site thaks for all of your hard work during yesterdays frantic fail of a transfer deadline, just wanted to know if there is any chance of bringing in another striker on a free, are there any under the radar strikers we could still have a go at? If not I am very fearful for our chances with only 2 genuine first team forwards. Also could Cole also still go to France/Russia can't see us keeping him with everyone else gone.

-California kopite

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:48:47
Quote from Tom Werner at the start of the transfer window

"I would say we certainly have the resources to compete with anybody in football,"

What a difference a few months makes huh?

gh*lfc {Ed052's Note - We can mate, the difference is we are sensibly and actually want to be a solvent club. We messed up on one deal. We have made 5 great signings though}

Resources. Is he talking about funds or things like facilities etc. ? {Ed002's Note - I imagine people are reading too much in to what TW said.}

Well said edd052 , completely agree, people on here are getting too carried away, we've paid over the price for players in recent windows and glad the club have decided not to pay over the odds now. Dempsey wasn't worth 7M at 29
Bilverstone

Ed052, how can you say 5 great signings? Borini, untried and untested. Oussaidi the same, Sahin good player though he is, is he really great? The young German, no one knows what he may be capable of. Which leaves Allen, granted he has shown so far that he is going to be a star, but to say 5 great signings is an overstatement. Hopefully you will be proved correct, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. {Ed052's Note - Fine, be negative and rid holes into our players before thye have even started. Allen is world class, so Is Sahin. Assaidi looks terrific, and Borini will score a plenty, he did in Seria A, and loves Rodgers}

Ed52 mate you don't understand or your ignoreing coz FSG don't want to put their own cash when comes to transfer then how can we compete eg kenny spent 100M in transfer but had to sell players like toress for 50m raul for 11M babel 7M ngong 4M it means 72M were recouped means our net spend was 28 million then reduced massive wage bill to recoup 28M then how can we challange or compete. {Ed052's Note - Haha, you are wrong mate. Kenny spent around £130 million. He recouped around £70 in transfer fees. However, the wage bill rose massively with all those signings. In total, he cost around £70m +, in one window alone.}

It's like banging your head off a brick wall fsg said they were gonna buy young players with future resale value obviously some people read this ignored it and thought we were gonna spend 400 million on players,I wouldn't wanna end up like leeds,Portsmouth or rangers

Hey I wasn't complaining , just viewing the perspective.

gh*lfc

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:45:06
BIG thank you to Macca and eds, only found the web site by accident begining of june this year hooked from the start, if i d have took Macca's predictions i d be up a few quid (damn)on yesterdays antics gutted but still hope we can get top four fingers and toes crossed

paisleys lad {Ed052's Note - Cheers. Macca is great}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:44:34
Macca no need to be sorry. you were fantastic this summer.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:44:21
great work on this site eds, highly addictive especially deadline day.....i waited and waited for confirmation on Dempsey, hoped maybe we would snare Walcott ,what i thought would be an exciting day ended up a massive anti climax {Ed052's Note - Thanks mate. It wasn't for us, we all wanted to run away and cry in Ed001's pillows :'( . It was, but that's football}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:54:15
Atleast the Spuds didnt win tonight, they are reallly struggling.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:53:15
Steve Clarke 7/9 points from Liverpool, Spudz and the Bitters. Well Done.
P.S. get in snodgrass too while we're at it.

Chi-Paul

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:42:49
To all eds,
Do you think we are paying the price for the recklessness of King Kenny's reign? Loved him as a player but never rated him as a manager.
Thanks {Ed002's Note - The placement in the league last season was the price paid. It is now a clean sheet and time to move on.}

Clean slate {Ed002's Note - As in clean slate of paper?}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:41:55
Why are people so against making Adam Morgan our 3rd striker? What would you rather do sign the next Michael Owen or sign the old one who only wants to join Liverpool to smart up his CV and Bank account.

Young players only become 'The next big thing' by playing in the first team and unexpected situations like our current one is one that can make a player. If we sign Owen, or any other crap striker who is a free agent for a reason, all we will do is hinder Morgan/Yesil/Pacheco's progress. I mean look at Carroll's role in the squad as 3rd striker, he was never going to change much was he? If anything Owen is more likely to get injured on the bench than Suarez playing every week. People complain at the lack of homegrown talent coming through our Academy, well here is our best prospect Striking prospect since Owen and people fail to realise he could have a similar impact that Sterling did only a week or two ago. People could have just as easily said ' we need to sign a winger ' instead of using Sterling but we used him , he played well and now no one even mentions it anymore.

This same scenario is what transferred the careers of Wilshere, Welbeck, Sturridge, Owen, Oxlade-Chamberlain etc. i.e the clubs were short and turned to youth and reaped the rewards, why can't people just have a little faith that things might work out with Morgan?

And I haven't even mentioned the fact the our midfielders will score goals this season...

rant over

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:41:24
I got flamed yesterday for saying Liverpool shouldn't be held to ransom for players. I think we have done well this transfer window and not getting Dempsey is not the end of the world. Do we need and out and out striker, of course but with the finances being as they are I don't believe there were many reasonable options. So we move on, personally the idea of more young players getting games as a consequence pleases me. Clearly we won't reap the rewards of this immediately but blooding them now bodes well for future seasons. I have faith in what FSG are trying to do and as the finances improve our ability to buy top class players will too, the truth is at the moment we can't afford to buy them. The worst thing to do would be spending money we don't have and getting in deep trouble again. And as an aside the overreaction from some people here is just symptomatic of media saturation, and its ability to whip folks into a frenzy. Mind you trying to reason with people baying for blood is akin to asking a rabid dog sit. So probably what I'm saying will fall on deaf ears, but I'm sure there are still enough rational fans here who can see the bigger picture and see that the future is promising with an excellent manager, sensible ownership and some cracking youngsters too.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:41:09
Ed002,in your opinion, do you think we will buy more players in january? you would assume we would having missed out on strikers when rodgers said he hoped to bring a couple in {Ed002's Note - I would think a player or two will come and go in January.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:18:15
Does anybody know anything about this Gillon McLachan who is rumoured to have been approached for the CEO job ?

Guinnessred8

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:30:55
Well it wasn't what we wanted but we did bring In 1 striker, and it will be good for the boys In Resevers like soso morgan which are both strikers to play in Europa. I think Pacheco can play more first team football. And Spain played with no striker using the same system as us (lets hope it don't get to that). if we beat arsenal all won't seem so bad. '_' YNWA. Murray

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:21:43
Ed2 don't give me crap dont tell how the owners are taking loss coz when they bought the club they knew everything about it and what was needed coz if we don't qualify for champions league then the loses will continue the reality is they don't have money to be liverpool owners coz I say again 80% of clubs in europe make losses so that's not excuse even your beloved chelsea are making loss for decade and still spend

FSG OUT YANKS ARE SH**t {Ed002's Note - I am sure they have done nothing to deserve a fan like you. I have explained the situation and that the owners were not expecting the levels of losses they are seeing. The club has been losing more and more money as the years go by and they pick up the tab. But hey, feel free to get the "Yonks Out" flags flying down at Anfield; join up with Twitter and abuse the owners and their families; the Facebook campaign of hate is always popular; perhaps graffiti on the stadium will drive home your viewpoint? No doubt you have some lager-swilling, pot-bellied, shaven headed, tattooed, knuckle dragging friends you can pop round Melwood with to threaten the club staff. Some sort of small fire and an anonymous letter as a waring to get out - that's gotta be a good approach.}

Well said, Ed...

Get them told Ed002!!

What a disgraceful post!
Ed002, plz back me up on this one. Why the heck cant most liverpool fans see that it was dalglish and commoli who ruined the club's funds last summer? Who is 'King Kenny?' Didnt he get dethroned 20 years ago?
Indian Buzzer {Ed002's Note - I would not want to take away anything Dalglish did for the club and he was an excellent choice after Hodgson left. The mistake was that the owners caved in to the wishes of the fans to give Mr Dalglish the job on a full time basis. I really don't think he was up to it. Certainly the events of December 21 put the first nail in his managerial coffin.}

Ed 002 has hit the nail on the head. The owners and liverpool football club as a whole has done nothing to deserve a fan like you!
It's fans like you that damage the integrity of the club whilst clearly knowing nothing about the finances of the club and the amount of money that FSG have pumped into the club over the past couple of year.
Your clearly just an angry person with nothing better to do than go mad at an editor that doesn't get payed for the great service he provides

TyroneRed

Nice one Ed

ND

Certain Liverpool fans need to be very careful that they do not force FSG out which leads them to accepting the highest bid for the club which just happens to be an eccentric Chinese businessman who will borrow half a billion and secure it against your club. The FA and EPL have no power to stop it from happening again and why would FSG care about what state they leave you in when they have been abused by the fans?

You may be skint, but at least you are not in danger of going bust.

Disney!

Well ed great to see you put that muppet in his place.
derryred

Haha yes Ed, impatient moronic fans like him can do one

So 80% of the clubs in Europe making a loss. Makes it OK to do it!!!??

You are either really young or .........
I'll edit myself to save Eds time

Support you team and don't talk about
What you don't know about

Lyndon

Sorry ed, i have tattoo's and i am a true specimen of what a gentleman is lol {Ed002's Note - Obviously I apologise to the nice lager-swilling, pot-bellied, shaven headed, tattooed, knuckle dragging Liverpool fans like you Chris.}

Hey, c,mon ED I am not one of his friends. Ignore his comments and the rest of the no brain cell brigade.
Robbie

Ed2 for a Knighthood!!!
That had to sting abit
Arise Sir Ed2

Lyndon {Ed019's Note - How do you he's/she's not a Sir/Dame already?}

Fair play ed002, there are too many so called fans out there who don't have a clue. I understand peoples frustrations with yesterday and the lack of senior strikers but this could be a blessing in disguise..it'll give the youngsters a chance and who knows, perhaps one or two will make it and save us money. If not there's always January. And to all those who slag the owners, they are business men, who are trying to make Liverpool a viable and profitable business..if we spend above our means, like any person, we will be in even worse trouble..remember Leeds..keep the faith and keep supporting the team instead of moaning like a spoiled child.
Ballina Red

I'm telling you guys, self-immolation is the only way to get their attention. Get yourself a can of petrol and some matches and head down to Melwood or Anfield.

And it'll spare the rest of us your drivel, but that's just a bonus.

- Something Red -

Hey Ed002, Leave me out of this, LOL. I don't know who that poster is but I agree with you. I saw something written to John Henry on twitter posted online last night that was as vile as anything I have ever seen or read. I understand the 0.01% thing and have always been proud of the real LFC supporter. It's time to roll behind our manager and team. No need for abuse. I'd also like to say "great job" to all the Eds for keep us informed and providing us this great site. Thanks to each of you.

Chi-Paul

Why do they call us Yonks! I am a American and don't blame a whole country and ppl for FSG and Ayre's screw up!! {Ed002's Note - It is because they are not very bright I am afraid.}

Thanks ed, i knew you'd understand!

Chris, the larger-swilling, pot-bellied, (i have hair) tattooed, knuckle dragging liverpool fan.

Sorry bit Sexiest!!
Dame/sir

Lyndon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:30:40
hi eds is there anything in these m owen rumours im still in shock we never took any one in ,ithink it was rogers who decided not to sign anyone,remember sigurdson ,had the chance to sign him but rodgers pulled out cause he wanted more money,,think thats wat happened last nite ,,dont think he be there after xmas {Ed006's Note - No mate this has nothing to do with Rodgers. He knew we needed a new striker and he would have given out names. The men upstairs let us down over Dempsey. It was one big mess.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:30:28
Eds, really wanted to know who from the academy will feature more as we are one striker short
lykonred {Ed006's Note - Morgan and Sterling.}

Pacheco?

ChrisMiz

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:18:28
Andy Caroll is already looking like a £35 million striker after joining West Ham Thanks FSG

Well the long ball game, or as i call it "anti-football" tactics favour him.
derryred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:18:20
Eds, what do you think of us signing Michael Owen? Macca just suggested it live on ESPN USA feed. He is a free agent.

{Ed006's Note - I suppose more is better than less at the moment.}

Would FSG sanction such a move? He is 33 in a couple months. Very rarely fit and has no pace anymore. He would cost at least £4m a year in wages and he would expect a hefty signing on fee. How would FSG feel about committing £5m+ on Owen and he manages to play just ten games in the season? I have to say it's a desperate solution and to be fair if FSG were that fussed about a striker they would have done more to bring one in this window. I would say you are clutching at straws. Give youth a chance.

Disney!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:12:07
Couldn't care a less about anyone other than Steven Gerrard, if he's in the team it's gonna be a war with anyone.

We lost 4 goal Carroll and the cries for Owen are there. No Owen. We have Gerrard.

He'll never be Gerrard.....

Because he is a striker...

Alright Steven, How are the kids?

Nonzy

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:11:46
Difficult to say who was at fault yesterday. However, if we aren't firing on all cylinders by December, wouldn't be surprised if Ayre is shown the door. If we do well in the league we will look like a very smart group, bringing up young lads to play in first team. Perhaps this is for the best. Now Morgan will have to play, and we all know he can.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:27:11
Hi Eds and Macca? Do you think Owen is a possibility on a pay as you pay deal?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:24:17
Drogba got released today as shanghai cant pay his wages, liverpool should try get him on a free, only problem is his wages though

Get him Liverpool. he is free agent so don't have to pay any transfer money.

Yep would have him for a year

This has to happen!

This has to happen!

Having seen Drogba at the cup final last season, he was immense, sign him up. Think he'd want 2 years but offer him 1 year.

Very unlikely, Anelka's worth a punt though.

Papa G

Got to say he's a proven handful of a striker with a great record. Would he settle for a sensible wage - doubt it but he would be an asset, and he certainly knows where the net is.
ND

It will completly go against the transfer strategy. No point in panic-buying he is a good striker but he relies on early ball which is somthing he won't get at liverpool.
derryred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:23:44
hi eds great sight .look because of the disaster of yesterday and not replacing Carroll can rogers terminate the loan of Carroll I no its been done before but it have to be in the clause .

DANNY IN THE BACK {Ed063's Note - No}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:23:38
Marco bueno should of been bought this summer!

ACHILLES.

I think he's on a pre-contract with us. What's the hold up with him eds?

ChrisMiz {Ed052's Note - No mate, we never wenrt for him]

Again i think thats a bad move not signing him, And the agreement we hav with nacional in uruguay about having first refusal or something like that on up and coming talent, well they have one in gonzalo bueno the guy is electric.

ACHILLES.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:22:39
im so glad siggurdson didnt come to us, he looks awful {Ed063's Note - Spurs in general do...}

A lot of fans wanted AVB as our manager........thank god that never happened!

MR EM

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:10:52
What is happening to our club? Are FSG determined to turn us into a mid table selling club? how are these guys any better tha H&G? We are becoming a joke! We had weeks to tie up Dempsey! He's now a spurs player? we let Andy C go! No replacment? why? Was this all an exsersise in reducing cost? Ian ayre what does this guy do? He should take lessons from D Levy, there will be excuses! none will make sense! It's a disgrace what is happening to our club- CL winners in 2005 the decline is alarming... top 10 finish if we are lucky- Man city-Chelsea-arsenal- Man Utd-everton-spurs-Newcastle all far stronger than us, FSG sell up go leave our proud club, before you kill it!! Please!!

Go boil your head you fool, obviously you dont understand that FSG saved the club, you aint got the balls to sign your post.....................Wirral Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:10:34
Ed both anelka and drogba have been released from the chinese side. Is there any chance we may be interested in bringing either in as free agents? {Ed002's Note - Drogba's agent has been approached by several clubs including one from England (Manchester City), two from Russia (Anzhi is one and I suspect the other is Zenit), and there is interest from the Middle East and United States. I would doubt that Nic Anelka would return to England. I would think signing on fee and wages would be an issue for many clubs.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:09:25
At least we will buy a striker in jan ,gerrard can play as a striker with luis and borini , anassaidi , sterling , Morgan , we could really have done with an all out striker but one of the best finishers in the game is gerrard , let him be supplied by sahin Allen sterling shelvey anssaidi , gerrard can play up top , do u think Carroll is a better finisher than gerrard no , can he hold the ball up better than gerrard no , is his pony tail better than gerrards barnet no :)
Thanks
Jeff

I've been saying this for weeks!.. Gerrard up front = GOALS!

Rodgers would have to consider playing Gerrard further forward now...but I would also like him to play Borini in the middle of the front three...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:09:03
Ed2 your on Fire today!!
All you need is some Moneyball posts and your
days made!!

Lyndon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:08:30
i would not get your hopes up for signings in jan. this is the way its going to be now. i dont give a flying f**k how much the owners have put in. thats how it works in football like it or not. they talk utter crap and dont have a clue. for all the fans who think there the bees & es will soon see the true colours of what they will do with the club. we are becoming a joke and they treat the fans like there think and dont have a clue. as far as i am concerned they can f**k off and take that waste of a space they call are manger who is full of sh*t. what a person letting carroll go. he is to single minded to be lfc manger and will fail badly. we lose tomorrow and you will soon see the fans on his back.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:08:18
Just seen Clint Dempsey at Argos, returning a Liverpool FC pencil case

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:08:17
Btw ian ayre is the definition of a clown. I hope he's replaced by sum1 who knows how to carry ot his job ;

Melbourne' {Ed002's Note - Like my old buddy Wavy Gravy you mean?}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:05:08
Sum supporters r just shy of intelligence. See this net spend, its nonsense. I stated that when money is made I.e from sales it is made available again. We have spent over 140m u tool whether its all from sales or.not. plus we r paying huse losses of over 50m.each year for mistakes by the previous owners. Eds great job cuz I wudnt have the patience for sum naive people.

Melbourne'

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:04:58
Hi Eds can you tell me what are the chances of landing a significant player in Jan? {Ed002's Note - "Significant" is a subjective term. However, if pushed I would say the chances of signing a "significant" player in January are marginly less than signing a bearded player in January.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:03:43
Hi ed(s) Was wondering what the chances of of Owen actually coming back? {Ed002's Note - I have no feelings of what the chances are at all.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:03:04
FSG need to sell up fast. They talk a whole lot of s**t. Werner has lied to the fans about funds Henry has just lied about everything. A donkey could do a better job then Ayre. SELL THE CLUB FSG

Donkeys are pretty clever
Just look at the talking one In Shrek!

Oh! By the way you are a fool
You could do with Ed2 tearing you off
A strip.

Lyndon

I agree, that's why Torres left, he knew these owners were just like the last. Pacify and tell everyone what they want to hear, meanwhile doing what they want. Torres knew no further investments were going to be made and went to a place where he knew investment in the team was going to happen. Buying players and recognizing talent are always going to be speculative and risky, and if FSG are looking for guarantees they can go back to America and play "Moneyball" with their 20 run losing Red Sox . . .

You should really do your Homework
Before posting

The longest losing streak I MLB
Is 24

The redsox have lost 4 straight
Spouting of without getting you facts
Right maybe you should run the Club!!!?

Lyndon

Sorry, the score was 20-2 last night, so the Sox lost by 18 runs. Who said anything about a losing streak, lol.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:02:56
eds will yesin (if thats correct) be on the bench tommorow, as we dont have any other strikers? i see owen as a must sign.
Ben {Ed002's Note - I have not decided on the line up yet. You are aware that Pacheco and Morgan are still with the club? Joe Cole another option perhaps?}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:02:19
I love ED002 says it as it is welcome back
;-)

Mike S

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:01:22
'Ed002'

Fair enough on the "self-sufficiency" point. And don't get me wrong mate, I'm not saying I want FSG, or anyone else for that matter, throwing money around kamikaze. I wasn't expecting them to, and I don't want them to.
I believe in the correct way of doing things, like Spurs.

Still with you ed002, I saw your post where you explain the repercussions for failure to attain Champions League this season.
If indeed we fail to make top 4, do you see players like Agger and Suarez being sold to keep up with costs in the medium term?

As you've said that lack of CL will threaten "self-sufficiency" even in medium, how would FSG be likely to respond to this? Is a sale of the club really out of the question?

WILLIE {Ed002's Note - Certainly FSG are not in the position to keep propping the club up financially in the longer term. It has been made very clear this week that FSG were not aware of the "money pit" nature of the "soccer" business at the higher level. However, in a couple of years the longer term options for gaining an income from the streaming of games will become clearer and the potential benefits will likely be quantifiable. This has from the start been seen as key to the long-term success of the investment by FSG. In the interim they are to be pushing for the blocking of illegal internet feeds of games.

There will come a point where the money FSG has invested in Liverpool could provide a much better return elsewhere - and at that point they would maybe look to sell, perhaps via a floatation. }

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:00:47
Hi Ed's well done on yesterday and throughout the summer. I can't imagine how stressful it was with all the questions being asked !

I've read that Sturridge would've been signed permanently if we'd have sold Carroll. Does this mean FSG are playing safe with money or simply just don't have it to spend ?

Thanks in advance

Hans

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:00:39
Guys let's face it. It'll be suicide to wait until January to add another striker. Our only hope now the window is closed is to try and snap up a free agent. Ryan Babel was a free agent a few hours ago until Ajax brought him back home. I say we do the same for a certain ex player. I am of course talking about non other than the goal scoring machine himself. Emile Heskey. Haha I kid, I kid. Its Micheal Owen of course. Look, there are some things you never lose as a player. He may have lost his legs, but he knows where the goal is.I wouldn't expect him to start. I wouldn't expect him to play every game. But I know for sure that if this guy comes on as a sub every now and then, he'll sniff out goals like a blood hound. He was my childhood hero and I could be talking heart over head but every fan loves a goal scorer. If he gets goals, all the past will be forgotten. We need help upfront that's a fact. So at least till the Jan window, please find a place in your hearts to give this guy a chance. #Prodigalsonreturns.
DAni.

I'd sooner lose every game this season and be relegated than have the mercenary back at our club.
Reports suggest Drogba and Anelka have been released, if BR thinks we are THAT desperate for a striker to come in then why not have one of them till Janurary. We've saved £450 000 a week after this transfer window, so give them £3 mill sign on and £80 000 a week, we'd still be quids in.
If BR thinks the team is strong enough without them then lets get behind him and give him our FULL support.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 16:00:25
Carrol already hurt at west ham. Removed from 2 England international games.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:58:52
My opinion is that Owners won't be force top 4 finish under BR this Season. In other words, they won't sack BR if he failed to reach Top 4. And, they will be happy with top 8 which they may think quite achievable with current set of Strikers.
Its time for Rogers to act. He had to influence players that they can achieve top 4 position thus forcing the owners to back BR in January
INDIAN RED {Ed002's Note - The very, very clear target is a top four finish. I would not link it to the sacking of the manager.}

I f the target is a top 4 finish this season,then BR might as well resign NOW,it's NOT going to happen

alan50

Hi ed002 thankyou first of all for all your hard work and all other eds, but I am not being funny, but you said the owners clearly have a top four as a target,with what happened yesterday we are even more of the target do they not quite understand the prem, do they not have someone that told them yesterday go for dempsey the club are short on strikers?
hibsylfc {Ed002's Note - The top four and Champions League football is a very clear number one priority. Clint Dempsey is a player who the club were interested in but unable to reach agreement over. No more. It is gone. History. You really need to move on from the festering sore that was yesterday.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:51:21
I just wanna give a big thanks to the eds for keeping me positive , i posted earleir on taday and i was a steam train with one destination, Ayre!
From reading ur posts here guys , ill say, i see the light at the end of the tunnel. I can see our youth players being given a chance in abundance this season. And remembering how we made city work , its gonna be an exciting season.
A big thanks to the Eds!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:52:46
I am dumbfounded at the inept attempts to bring in players on the final day of the transfer window. The arrogance of Ian Ayre in particular has got my blood boiling because why on earth did we leave things to the last minute with no plan B if things went wrong i.e letting players leave before replacements were in the bag. If we are expecting Fulham to roll over and accept the tapping up of one there players without fronting up with the money then the club is truly run by persons. I saw enough against City to believe that we can hold our own against a top side, but then saw enough against Hearts to know that our fringe players are not going to fill the gaps when we get injuries and suspensions. FSG have obviously learned that throwing massive money at LFC to recruit the playing staff backfired when the cheque book was given to Kenny but to then go to the other extreme
and suddenly let the new manager miss out on Dempsey in particular because they wouldnt top up what we received for Adam etc on the final day is pathetic. I thought further investment was dependent on Champions League revenue going forward so if that is the case how are we going to get there with not enough quality in the squad for all competitions. I feel sorry for all the fans who year after year for the last 20 years have started the season with high expectation of winning the EPL but with every passing year it gets further and further away. David Moores and Rick Parry sold us down the river and for that they should be eternally ashamed.

Ben the Ball

Is that your Professional opinion that it was
a shambles. In what way do you have
a clue about the dealings of multi-million pound transactions.

Just wondering!

Lyndon

Anyone who doesn't think yesterday was a shambles is kidding themselves...

it's not just about being unable to sign Dempsey...the fact is we badly need a striker and we didn't get one no matter how cheap or unknown...it seems there was no plan B other than Dempsey...it seems Rodgers was not told that the only replacement planned for Carroll was Dempsey etc...

shambles...mess...debacle...call it whatever...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:51:49
Yesil looks like an amazing piece of business, he looks a great talent....but.....Whats this 'buy back clause' all about? I have heard different amounts on what it would be some even saying the same amount we paid for him! Is this correct as that would be stupid and I would be gutted! Eds please clairfy this as this was the glimmer of hope at the end of a dark deadline day disaster ! {Ed002's Note - I don't know any details of his contract. Sorry.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:51:37
One can hope dzagoev and lewandowski will sign during the jan window can't he?
AnfieldUSA {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath over either arriving in January.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:48:26
Currently looking for a new Chief Exec. Already offered the job to one guy from Australia (declined due to family reasons). Expect a new one in soon and backing from FSG in January. John Henry not happy with last night. Thought he could trust CEO to run things!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:46:01
Although things didn't quite go to plan yesterday FSG shouldn't be complained about, they've already invested 140mil into the club in the last couple of seasons, not like they're being tight. Blame Ian Ayre if anyone, he was the one being stubborn over deals.

KGB1892

What is the nett spend? Where is the stadium? 60 mill for Torres alone.
Gazman

Wrong , FSG have not invested 140 million into LFC , Most of the money has been from sales off our players , they have put in a lot less !! {Ed002's Note - The cost of running a club is far more thatn the cost of transfers. Liverpool has been making a significant loss - the owners have been making up that money.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:44:59
Hi ed's thanks for all the work you have done!

I for one am content with the window, yes we messed up the dempsey deal but what we also didn't do is panic buy! It has been the Bane of liverpool for years, and at the end of the day what's done is done.

Now into players.
How is Ngoo doing from what I have heard he is scoring quite a few in the U21 etc?
Ibe is quality but too young and not quite ready would you agree?
Suso, I really want to find out what's going on with him he is such a good player!
Regarding sterling are you worried that with him playing so much at a young age will he in later years get more injured like owen?
Can you think of any suprise packages from our youth setup that might spring up this season?

Really excited for tomorrow I'm picturing a borini and sterling 2-1 win!

Cheers for the comments.

Kind regards

The southern red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:43:00
Why get involved in the final day scramble just for the entertainment of a website, Jim White and the pockets of some very unscrupulous people? It has backfired. We could have had Sturridge earlier last week. {Ed002's Note - Sturridge was not available for a loan. Liverpool would not have had the money to buy him without selling Carroll.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:42:30
a statement would be nice ! they no the fans are p****d of and baffled but no-one at the club has had the decency to tell the fans what happend. then again were only the fans what do we matter. jack {Ed002's Note - What happened was simple. Liverpool and Fulham could not come to an agreement over the transfer of Clint Dempsey. That is it.}

Dempsey wasnt the striker we where after. yes we wanted him but rodgers wanted 2 players and one was a out and out striker. and no its not as simple as how ed says. why couldnt the deals have been done ? why was melwood shut at 7 ? they should tell us what went wrong instead of fans all over the world 2nd guessing and blaming everbody from moores to even spearing !

Rubbish it wasnt as simple as that , the facts were LFC didnt have any strikers to bring into the club after letting AC go , if dempsey failed , why wasnt there another striker to come in ?? its bad management of the window ,

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:46:35
Why do people want free agents to sign just for the sake of it. They are free agents for a reason, the youth we have are all better than these players and will develop more by being thrown in.

KingHeskey {Ed063's Note - Excellent point}

I think Owen is an option. Depends on who is around on free. Wouldn't sign just anyone
Tommy.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:40:42
Michael Owen.

A player who has a natural instinct for scoring goals; a finisher who takes the majority of the chances he is given.

There's no doubt in my mind that this season we will create chances with the likes of Suarez et al in our team, so could Owen be the man to score the goals?

I wasn't happy when he joined Man Utd either, but if he can come in and 'do the job' for us, I'm willing to overlook that....

Just want to see what everyone else thinks... click agree if you would take him back, disagree if you would never have him back in a red shirt again....

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:39:58
What's all this about Liverpool offering £4m plus Henderson (a £16m signing) for Dempsey yesterday. Yet Spurs get him for around £6-7m. Sounds desperate to me.

Hendo on loan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:35:35
hey eds do you reckon ayre will lose his job over this? i read you say that he is probably the most blameable person regarding the transfers that were meant to happen yesterday, i would just like your thoughts on it?

thanks :)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:35:05
hi edds

still fuming at the owners but nothing we can do at min.

do you think there be any transferes in jan or do you think they going to let us down again {Ed002's Note - Why have the owners let you down? Because Dempsey didn't sign? Pitiful.}

Why is it pitiful? We all felt like a replacement would be signed for carroll including all the eds! So you get your hopes up and then it doesn't happen so your let down.

Everyone just needs to move on, it is annoying but what can we do.

JD

Well Said Ed2

They bought the club when on the brink
Invested 100 million which sadly was slightly wasted with the buys. But things are better sponsorship wise and marketing
Wise and on the youth side of things.
But what do they get Foul mouthed abuse
on tweeter
CLASSY???

Lyndon

The owners have let this club down because they dont invest enough of their own cash into it , FSG are worth $ 27 billion , yet they have not put much fresh money into LFC , ITS A DISGRACE !!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:34:14
Anyone heard anything about Danny Wilson recently? Was tipped to be hot property but seems to have disappeared.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:34:14
Carroll looked great for the Hammers today. Good luck Andy. I bet he'll knock 20 in this season playing alongside Nolan again, and he fits perfectly into Hammers style

Coop

Swear he got injured?

He was rubbishe, he done nothing special, get over yourself mate.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:34:14
no harm but a few of you liverpool fans are a disgrace constantly whining and, saying if we dont get CL the manager has to go , we finished 6th 7th and 8th last 3 seasons, if we managed to stay in touch of CL and finish 5th i think that would be great progress.. brendan had a budget to work on and i think he did well, last season you were constantly sayin spearing and adam are rubbish get them out, now you want them replaced when its obvious they wouldnt have been playing anyway, if carroll could have being sold then we would have signed 1player at least but we only could get a loan, maybe we shoulh have sold gerrard because his performances but especially his ATTITUDE for the last 2years have been disgraceful (barring 1or2 games).

brendan is trying his best lets support him and get behind him, we have some good youngsters coming through maybe now they will get their chance and if i remember corectly all last season you cryed about our youngsters to be giving a chance , maybe you are all the type 3 fans brendan spoke about , why not be type 2 fans at least and support our manager and team YNWA JFT96 +(ed2 and Macca i love you both)

majestic69

Explain why gerrard's ATTITUDE has been awful the last two years??

I agree that people need to give Rodgers time, and that he has to work within a budget, but beyond that you're talking out your arse.

I'm not sure what your point about Adam and Spearing is meant to be since they've been replaced by Sahin and Allen, both far better players. Which is what all the people complaining about them being rubbish wanted, isn't it? And they got it, and now the team is better off for it.

In what way has Gerrard's attitude and performances been disgraceful in the last 2 years? Because it's something I've really not seen. At all.

I don't get this fascination with bashing Gerrard lately. Is it to seem edgy and out there by saying the club captain isn't up to scratch? Cos it certainly couldn't be based on his performances on the pitch, not unless you need to visit Specsavers. Leaving aside the fact that he's one of the best players to have ever pulled on the shirt and could've left for Chelsea twice and Real Madrid once rather than staying here, but didn't, he actually played well most of last season. After Suarez, he was our only attacking force worth talking about. He's not going to score 20 goals like he did playing off Torres playing in a deeper position, so get used to it. And he was also England's best player in the Euros (although that's not saying much).

He had a bad game on the opening day, and people decided between that and his age he must be finished and a liability. I notice such people were silent in the wake of the Man City game.

Unbelievable really.

- Something Red -

I agree this sudden culture of gerrard bashing is not something that should happen at our club,he is not beyond reproach no-one is but a lot of "supporters" on here have extremely short memories...... Paisley's genius

Majestic69 theres a Taxi waiting outside
for you!!

Lyndon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:33:42
Hi eds, please post.
Are there any other good free agent strikers available that you know of? Apart from Owen. And might we show some interest?
Thanks, Kyle {Ed002's Note - I have no idea if there is any interest in out of contract players Kyle, but I would not bank on any arriving.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:32:42
hi eds and all the reds What The Hell happened yesterday?? What does fsg think that we the fans will raise money by fundraisers to buy world class players what is ayer doing?? absolutely disgusted. hope the current squad can produce good results.good luck BR.cheers!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:30:19
So the window is shut we have bought some real quality into the club. I was a bit disappointed yesterday that no striker was bought in but I will get over it and let's hope the next star is born. I like Morgan and we just bought Yesil. FSG are good owners so let's not be too critical. Let's just hope everybody chips in with goals.

My question to the eds is Ngoo anywhere near the first team? I know he is a bit awkward but can score goals.

Also is Raul a free agent?

I would also like to thank all the eds and Macca for there great work during the window.

Mighty reds

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:29:57
FSG don't insult us with the signing of a well past it manc crock who has no club OWEN , he turned his back on us no we will do the same , all in all a good transfer window no use sum young players ,
Jeff

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:29:55
Hi fellow reds.
Being a supporter of the Liverpool for over 30 years and living in Australia doesn't mean I care any less than you guys that are lucky enough to experience on a weekly basis the atmosphere of a true football game that most of you get to see regularly. Firstly a huge thank you to Ed 01 for creating a site that is a must read for any football follower, it really is fantastic. Now onto my little rant and appologise if I offend anyone but I have been patient throuout the last twenty years and up until I woke up this morning looking forward to the Carroll replacement , what do I actually find is no one . Now exuse my angst but WTF. Obviously Rogers was promised certain signings otherwise Carroll would still be amongst us however he was let down in a big way . We all know what we are lacking in and yet it wasn't addressed so where does that leave us ? I really hope that our youth and new strike force do the business otherwise the owners will cop a bashing of gigantic proportions. I still and forever keep the faith because that is what a true red does , however would like to see us climb out of the mire we are in currently. I will live and die a red no matter what . Aussie Jim

I live in Australia and I stayed awake the whole time! I thought it would be exciting and we would have at least a couple new players. I went to sleep at 9am...

It is the worst end to a transfer deadline I can remember by us...I was just stunned...

It began amazingly with us being linked to Damiao...one of the very few players who I believe could really help make us great once more...don't know if all the loan news was just rubbish but then everything quiet and went downhill fast...

apparently there was a transfer deadline show on LFC tv that went for four hours with no news and Melwood closing early etc...embarrassing

I would like to thank all the Eds for their efforts and continuous news when possible...Cheers Eds!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:26:11
Eds?

Reckon Samed Yesil might get some first team action after a few months in the reserves or will be waiting for a few years?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:19:15
that why KKpaid over the odd for carrol. Either u pay or f..k off on deadline day as selling teams already knew carrol went 2 WH earlier n we were deperate to sign a striker. As for BR he thinks borini n morgan is better than carrol ,as far as i know they hv not set the championship,serie A alight.every one got a clean slate except carrol from the beginig.
Budashow

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:14:54
I have been a supporter sive I was 8 (1988) and have had ups and downs along the way.

Yesterday was an absolute shambles, as the rest of you know. How is it possible that FSG & AYRE have let this happen?

Rodgers is not to blame, his faith must be shattered in both of them & I bet he is wondering the same. How can he operate like this? Rafa had it with Parry & now Buck has it with Ayre.

Buck will really have to work magic now & I am sure Suso will have to get a chance as we have no one else....

I really feel for the rest of the squad too, they have been here before.......Stevie, Carra, Pepe, Agger, Skrtel etc must be thinking more lies, its all talk no action.

Whatever happens I will still get behind the team week in week out, win, lose or draw. Liverpool is my team and I will support them whatever.

I have said it before, we all need to rally behind the red men, now more than ever & not let this club slip in to the doldrums. We start tomorrow against Arsenal......we can beat them & we will beat them but we all need to believe & I for one do.

Thanks to all the eds & Macca for the updates too.....much appreciated.

Crooky
YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:05:39
On yesterday, I agree with ed002,is It the end of the world we didn't sign Dempsey? NO!but we shouldn't be too shocked that we didn't sign anyone yesterday! As obviously for one reason or another finances were not available,let's not forget , likes of spurs sign players then sell at profit! Berbatov ,van de vaart,modric! We sign players then either loan them out,sell at a loss, or cancel contracts,so sorting out finances is vital for us to kick on &compete, further point is we signed borini ,Allen asaidi ,if Dempsey was so crucial, why not have made him one of the priority signings! Also important that we get someone in who can
Actually negotiate and broker a deal!a plus point is that the likes of sterling Morgan etc will perhaps get opportunities
This season, were in the past their growth would have been stalled by mediocre foreign players!! Let's move on now and get behind the club the manager and every player who pulls on the red shirt

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:58:28
"sell carrol" "dempsey too old" "give the kids a chance" careful what you wish for i say . You guys are not happy unless you're moaning about something support the club . If your finances were looking grim the last thing you would do would be to splash out on a big New car its all the same principle ! Great work over the last week or so Eds STEVE L

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:57:38
Were signing Emile Heskey on free transfer. Oh no...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:56:57
I want to apolgise for my previous over reactive posts!

If there's ever a time when Brendan and the boys need us its now! Starting with the game tomorrow!

Come one you reds!

K.Bennett

Ps, well done to Andy Carroll today! I'm happy for him!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:56:11
What is the likely hood that Assaidi will play soon? I am looking forward to seeing him in the front three. Also, is Yesid capable of being integrated into the first team over the coming months, or is he simply too rough at the moment?

I feel Owen needs to come back in, to allow the squad room the breathe. Lots of pressure on Suarez.

Ice Popp

Yesil needs to greatly improve his first touch and strength...if he does that then he will definitely get some time...

but I'm much more concerned with Suso and his lack of opportunities...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:52:35
Ed002, you've often praised FSG for their 'responsible' approach to growing this club. Clearly the notion of "self-sufficiency" is something you hold in high regard. You seem staunchly opposed to any idea of FSG lavishing their own millions on players, like the owners of City and Chelsea.

So, I just wanted to hear your opinion of especially Roman Abramovich. What exactly are his long-term plans for Chelsea? Since you seem a fan of "self-sufficiency", would it be fair to say you think him an irresponsible owner?

Lastly, believe me I'm most happy with FSG's blueprint and approach, nevertheless I should ask, why, hypothetically speaking, would it be ill-advised of LFC owners to spend, say, £150m, of their own personal wealth on players, while for City and Chelsea it's seemingly okay and without trouble?

I would appreciate it if you could address these matters, ed.

WILLIE {Ed002's Note - You seem to have misunderstood something. The notion of "self-sufficiency" is something the Liverpool owners hold in high regard - I have no feelings about the matter at all. I have not said anything opposing the owners spending their own "millions", just warned the fans not to expect them to do so - and quite correctly it seems. What makes you think I am a fan of "self-sufficiency"? I have said nothing in this regards at all. I don't see Mr Abramovich as being "irresponsible". Why on earth would the Liverpool owners wish to throw a £150M at buying players? I have spent the last year making it clear that you cannot expect vast spending on players and that expectations should not include the likes of Cavani, Hazard, Aguero, Sanchez, etc.. You have to accept that this is where the club is.}

Ed, what is your expectation for the team this season based on your reply?

Sam armchair {Ed002's Note - It is far too early to say what will happen over the next nine months, but Liverpool are a decent side and I would expect them to be in the mix for the European places. I don't expect them to win the league. Rodgers has come in with a good reputation and should be given the support of the fans. Backing should be given to the players who are employed by the club. Dempsey was nothing more than a speck in the history of the club.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:51:45
Ok so here goes...

I think we can all agree that the deadline day did not go to plan. We all wanted another striker/attacking option and it is frustrating. However, we now need to move on and be POSTIVE. Here's why:

*We only have two international strikers in Suarez and Borini. Well it's the same for Newcastle, Tottenham, Chelsea and Arsenal (granted Walcott can play up top). We're all in the same boat. It's making sure goals come from midfield that will be key!
*Tottenham and Arsenal are in transition, as are we. We have just as much chance as fourth as the rest of them!
*Our midfield is up there as the best in the league (Nuri Sahin will be amazing)
*The bad luck of last season has to run out! Suarez will score goals and give the lad Borini a chance, if we get on his back then the pressure is twofold.
*Anfield can be a fortress again. I believe the way Brendan has us playing will create a far more difficult game for visiting teams (Man City case in point).
*The wage bill has been lowered significantly, we are now not overstretching the club. We are becoming a better financial model. We will have money to spend going forward.

All in all folks, lets stay positive, create a great atmosphere at Anfield and remind the rest of the country why we are the best fans in the world, who stick with our club through thick and thin. BETTER TIMES ARE COMING AND BR IS THE REASON.

Misschinandlerbong

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:12:04
Reality check to some supporters! The owners have invested 140m thus far. Any money that is available is given to BR. After kk's shud I say dissapointing buying of players, the owners have learnt from paying over the odds for players. In a slight ' sense, br collected kk's tab yesterday but I for one am delighted with the squad we have now comparing it with 2 years ago. We have a world class GK, a terrific BAck 4, a wonderful midfield and a worldclass player in suarez. Not to forget we have a terrific youth set up and diamonds such as suso,sterling and robinson to name few. We don't have a worldclass GS yet ' but future investment will be on a GS as the rest of the squad is near sorted. We have improved a lot and r still growing. We just need time and support! Ed?

Melbourne' {Ed052's Note - Agreed!!. The owners have invested more than I could imagine in our wildest dreams. EVen around £40 million more after last seasons shambles. AND PEOPLE STILL COMPLAIN!!}

It must be some reason why there is rumours, that Ayre soon are history in Liverpool?

Mate they have not spend anything last year they didn't even spend 50M for get about 140M

Toress 50M
Raul 11M
Babel. 7M
Ngong. 4M
72M came from sales in total kenny spent 100M deduct 72M =28M net spend from owners and reduced massive wage bill

Kopite {Ed002's Note - And what about the losses the club make on a day-by-day basis - who pays for that?}

I would like to hear your reply in a 3 -4 weaks when too little goals has been scored , we still in the lower part of the table , and somebody gets injured ...
Optimists dont win !

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:11:58
Firstly, I'd like to thank the eds & Macca for keeping us informed before and during the transfer window. After a good nights sleep I have come to the following conclusion. It were a risky decision to allow AC go on loan to another EPL club before finding a replacement. Secondly, I can understand some fans over-dramatic reaction to last nights shambles, but here's a thought. I f you were a in the business field, gave 'x' amount to spend on on a product, that money is then used for products that don't match it's initial value (with no re-sale value) would you inject further finances until you're sure to have re-couped the cost? I think FSG & Rogers (as evident) have sold/loaned out the players that have been on high wages, that haven't really contributed to the cause. Yes, our current squad looks thin, but the quality of the players available is evidently a lot better then what we had last season. I do not understand some fans who keep thinking all is lost when all you have to do is have a look at our 2005 Champions League team and compare it to now. This 'project' as Rogers puts it, is for the long term, and not long ago did he blatantly say he does not have the finances to compete with the very best at this moment in time. We have now saved around £23 million or so in wages which hopefully will be invested back into the team come January. I'm sorry for the long post Eds, but do feel some fans need to see the bigger picture.

Sahil P {Ed052's Note - Cheers mate. I agree with most iof that. It has been what I have been saying too}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:10:22
Good morning eds and Macca.
You guy's do a great job and thanks for the info when you get it Macca.
I'm feelin a bit deflated at the min after last nights transfer window shutting and no attackers coming in.
I would like different ed's opinions and Macca's if you get the chance on a few things.

1) Was money so tight we couldn't afford the extra 2 mil for Dempsey (which was the money we got for Adam) or was it the owners refusing to pay any extra money due to his age and situation with Fulham?

2) Was it bad negoiating we missed out on all our attacking targets or were we just unlucky with how the night unfolded?

3) Were we trying to sign anybody else other than Sturridge, Dempsey and Damiao.

4) Is it down to people within the club why are transfer activity has been so poor over the last few years (I don't mean signing player who don't perform I mean why are we signing players for large somes and at times giving them away)?

5) Do you have faith in Ian Ayre?

Owenlfc82 {Ed052's Note - 1) No, the deal got messed up. It was silly and will not happen again. Also, Fulham wanted more from us. Dempsey is still shcioked that he didn't come to us

2)Both

3) Maybe, it is possible yes

4) Transfers this usmmer have been great. COmolli and KD can be blamed for the previous windows.

5) Yes and No. He has seemingly messed up some deals, but I beleive that he is a supporter, and loves the lcub}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:09:19
as we now have fewer attacking options do the eds think bringing Owen in is a possibility {Ed052's Note - NO}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:07:26
Hi ed's, after waking up and realising what happened (or lack of it) last night, firstly, we should of learned that leaving transfers till last minute is a risky business, u either pay over the odds (£35m-carroll) or get no one! We got no one, but there's 4 months to wait until january, let's hope brendan has all the luck in the world and we get no injuries, the youngsters will be givin a chance, which could be the making of them. But let's all move on, its no good moaning about it, its happened! We all wanted to keep agger, skrtel and suarez! We did, and that probally cost brendan more transfer money! We might struggle, we might not , just support the team and management and hopely fsg an give us some answers and insurances about the future! Anyway I would like to thank all the editors on another great effort these last few months (clap, clap, clap) and also a thank you to Macca (stella info). I'll still be the site all year round! Good luck brendan and the entire lfc team on the season ahead , what doesn't kill us. Makes us stronger comes to mind! Be positive, be realistic but most importantly be happy
DHH L20 Kopite
Y...N...W...A JFT96!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:06:37
Ed surely there is some small fee we could pay if we wanted to bring back Carroll? {Ed052's Note - No, I dont beleive so - he would cost a lot to bring he back}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:06:29
wer gonna win the leauge !
wer gonna win the leauge !
and nobody will believe us
nobody will believe us .....
wer going to win the leauge .

i still believe

mark my words

thanks nacc;:]][} the last few months were interesting to say the least!
dannybhoy

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:05:23
Macca, You do not have to apologize. You were right till the end. The owners' strategy backfired and we are stuck with only two strikers. Can we recall Carroll or would we have to move Yesil to the first team?

What other options do we have?

O'seunfunmi (Anfield Red)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:03:59
think everyone needs to calm down. let the results speak for themself. you wont be moaning if we beat arsenal tomorrow. yeah we didnt get dempsey, lets move on. we still brought in allen (class) sahin (class), assaidi (possible gem), borini (will improve) and raheem is like a new signing. yeah if suarez gets injured or borini we are short on striker options. but we have young morgan and possibly yesil. we have so much class coming from midfield that these boys should rise if it comes to it. allen, gerrard and sahin in mid with the choice of sterling, assaidi, suarez, borini, morgan, yesil?! as front 3. i think we will be fine. look how we played against an city. we dominated them apart from the 2 defensive mistakes. lets be positive. and if we are shying of goals come jan im sure we wont make the same mistake of not bringing someone in.
lets get behind the team. liverpool 3 - arsenal 0 YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 15:01:49
What a performance by andy Carroll. Good luck to him at west ham

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:50:24
eds are there any sites you know of that has a list of current free agents? {Ed002's Note - clutchingatstraws.com}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:49:36
I can take all the dempsey thing, not the great disaster people are making out.
Owen comeing back no way!!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:49:22
eds- any truth to arye being replaced by the australian Gillon McLachlan from the AFL? {Ed002's Note - Seems unlikely to me at this time. We'll see.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:50:24
eds are there any sites you know of that has a list of current free agents? {Ed052's Note - Ed001 said earlier - enter transfermarkt into the search function}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:49:36
I can take all the dempsey thing, not the great disaster people are making out.
Owen comeing back no way!!!

Agree, we save and gel and play the managers way, in January if needed we will no doubt asses the market and what is needed for the squad.

Owen, Klasnic and Heskey are not options for LFC, that would be panic buying.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:49:22
eds- any truth to arye being replaced by the australian Gillon McLachlan from the AFL? {Ed052's Note - I have heard the rumour. However, I would think it a bit quick for a replacement to be lined up. But the owners are quick and know what they are doing, so possible}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:47:48
hey eds and fellow liverpool fans,i follow this website regularly but dont post too much,anyways i was just as dissapointed yesterday as everyone else but it was really only because i was expecting us to buy someone especially damiao he would have been special!
The more i think about it tho im very optimistic for this year,especially seeing br giving the kids ago,i mean to start sterling against city shows that he has no fear in giving the young lads a go!
I mean im sure the likes of adam morgan and suso were delighted to see us sign no new players as it would have pushed them down the pecking order and who knows this could be the year when morgan or the new lad yesil breaks into the team gets a few goals and becomes a regular member of the team!
Great site eds and cheers for keeping us up to date with the transfers yesterday got my hopes up a bit with damiao tho haha!

Quinner {Ed052's Note - Thanks mate - and yes, even if you ar enot optimistic, then you might as well be!! It is looking good for the clun never the less}

Cheers ed and optimistic i will be! I can see morgan the local lad coming on late on against united and bagging the winner!

Quinner

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:46:59
Hello all
Just spoke to a relative of Michael Owen.
He said lfc have not spoken to him, but everton have.
Also considering going abroad .
Very disappointed with yesterday's dealings or
Lack of them. Mid table here we come .. Hopefully the young lads can play a bit more and prove themselves .
Red ken ...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:44:38
hearing arye about to lose job to australian Gillon McLachlan the job of Chief Executive

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:37:47
Hello Eds,

Very dramatic night last night and I'm sure you're very busy but could you possibly give us a rundown of any half decent strikers that we could get on loan please?

Thank you,

Emlyn {Ed002's Note - The opportunity for loans have gone.}

Sorry my error,

I mean free agents?

Thanks,

Emlyn

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:35:45
Eds, Can you give us an update on Doni situation? Is he staying or leaving? I personally feel that Jones is at best no.3, we need Doni as no.2 to Reina.
If he's going then we should try and sign Craig Gordon. I think if he finds the right club which supports him then he still has the potential to be a good keeper.

Also good news (rolling my eyes while typing this as good news) is that Pacheco loan move has fallen through. Looks like he's staying.

Eds any weight in Owen to LFC rumors? Or is it fan talk? {Ed002's Note - Doni was looking to move back to Brazil. If Liverpool agree to cancel his contract he could still do that as a free agent.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:35:02
Last night's disaster left me feeling completely empty and shocked, I am so incredibly disappointed in the owners, we had six weeks to stump up 6 million! possibly a couple more for the one type of player it was vital we signed this summer and we let spurs tie up a deal for that player in half an hour even though his first choice was to come to us. The owners have not done what we could of at the very least expected from them and that is give our club the very best chance possible of getting where we want to be come the end of the season without paying rediculous fees, they have let us all down. I hope we can get the results between now and January and then give them the chance the put yesterday's mess right in the winter window, I'm sure they will realise and do this, if not I'd be very surprsied/very very disapointed. Feel sorry for BR he must be fuming.. anyway I'd like to say a HUGE thank you to all the eds and Macca for their continued hard work through another hectic transfer window, it is much apreciated :)

CLR

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:34:28
I have chilled a bit after last night and can only blame the way these transfer deadline days are sensationlised nowadays lol, but after reading some of the more 'level headed' posts I am certainly more positive about things this morning. FSG didnt tell us any lies, they said the transition would take time and so it is proving. If mistakes were made in our strategy yesterday then no doubt that will be dealt with accordingly. Lets trust in Suarez and Borini to get us the goals and pump up the noise for the Gooners tomorrow! YNWA

Ciario

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:34:23
Ed, what do you make of all that? I am genuinely very interested in knowing what do you think of the owners and the team responsible for conducting the transfers.

While Spurs and in particular, Daniel Levy pulled of some excellent deals in Sigurdson, Lloris, Verthoghen, Adebayor and Dembele for roughly the the money we spend for Carroll and Henderson, we can't even cough up an extra 1.5 million to sign Dempsey!

Ed001 in particular have insisted that we have responsible owners. While I don't doubt that, I am now seriously worried about the ADVICE FSG are getting about 'soccer'. It's pretty clear that Ian Ayre is a usless person, first he sat and did absolutely nothing during the Suarez thing, now he does this. I can only sympathize with BR. Do the FSG even now what is happening here?

Now, I guess one positive that could come out of all this could be the reputation that we over-spend on players. After last summer, we probably needed one of those deals that dragged on and on and on before we signed somebody up for peanuts. I thought this was exactly what was going to happen with the Demspey deal, but nope, we seem to have overplayed their part and Fckued up big time.

Also, this probably means that we WILL have to spend in January. If LFC are anywhere near top 4 come January, I would have to salute BR. But keeping in mind the overly inflated nature of the January window, does anyone expect us to spend money? Thought so, after this anyway.

It, looks like the kids will definitely get a chance this year. We will play all of our Europa group stage matches before January and this probably means we have no option but to give the likes of Sterling, Morgan, Yesil and Pacheco chances. Hope one or two of them steps up!

Sorry for the long post lads, and I would be happy if any of the ED's reply. It's time to concentrate on football now like it should be, lets hope we do well.

AG {Ed002's Note - So the club missed out on Dempsey - hardly the end of the world.}

Ed002, welcome back. Sorry about the above post, overreaction to yesterdays events. Now, I have calmed down.

One question though, do you know of the rumours circulating about LFC trying to replace Ian Ayre?

AG {Ed002's Note - I have no idea where the rumour is coming from but there is a suggestion that they might be.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:34:20
Not posted for a while - huge respect to the eds and contributors for keeping this site as interesting as they do,

Yesterday was a plain and simple joke - I know that there are many different parts of a plan that can fall though, but really loaning out Carroll and bringing in absolutely zip, is nothing short of suicide on and off the pitch.

The one real signing i'd like to make (if I could) is Christian Purslow - though the cowboy affair he handled himself with dignity and professionalism, helping to get the best deal he could with Broughton.

I'm sorry Kenny, several of those purchases would not have been sanctioned as they didn't stack up and you need a businessman not a puppet, which is what Ayre has sadly demonstrated to us...

BR has to have the players to show us what he can do... Michael Owen, really! If, we have to sure - but we shouldn't...

PLEASE bring back a Christian Purslow that guy has the savvy the club needs...

Fingers crossed for Sterling to show us his massive potential against the Gooners tomorrow,

Cheers all Reds and the Eds,

Suffolk'n Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:33:45
Ok we haven't signed anyone today.... And for every fan who is disappointed imagine how disappointed Brendan Rodgers is! He is a straight up guy and wouldn't say he's hoping we would bring in 1 or 2 without genuinely thinking we would bring players in. I have been following this page religiously for the past 3 years, even whilst on tour in Afghanistan for 6 months! Yes the owners have been a bit tight with the pennys this summer but for a group of people who know little about football and spent so much last summer you can understand why they are a being a bit cautious this summer! They're business men not LFC fans! They're trying to make our club a stable, self sufficient business. And OK losing that option of AC without a replacement is a blow, but we have made some good signings this summer, who here is going to tell me Assaidi isn't going to be a gem, or end of the season Borini isn't going to have 15 prem goals. All of last season people were crying out for sterling to play when things weren't working out... Now he is, who's too say he won't grab 6-7 goals this year.. I won't! And I'm sure another promising youngster who has scored goals at every level Adam Morgan will play more than even BR expected. I'm not going to pretend that I'm not disappointed we didn't sign Dempsey, that guy was a steal for the price spurs paid but FSg didn't think it was right. And for the sake of £6m I'll go with them... Bring in an Arab, I'll take my chances! We've got a good squad, and the Liverpool fans who have had a good look at what we have got will know that! This was always a transition season anyway! Let's start playing good football with the good signings and good players we have got then see where we are end of the campaign! Joe Allen = great signing Assaidi = who knows? Fabio Borini = I'm confident he'll score goals this year! Nuri Sahin= we all know his pedigree! Excuse me if I've missed any signings but you catch my drift! Eds relax its over for 6 months, thank you for a great sight to browse and look for genuine reds info... And a few giggles! And for anyone who has ever doubted Macca, I dont know the guy but the last 12 months he has convinced me he knows the score, so people who question his knowledge, and this summer he has proved he knows! PIPE DOWN! Always have been and always will be RED

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:40:19
Surely Suso should get promoted we got of 2 midfielders and lost one to injury. we only have shelvey and henderson as back up. and if one of them get injured then someone has to come in from the youth. it would make sense to mixed them in with the first team now while we don't yet have such a problem.

also Yesil is about the same size as Assaidi and bigger than Sterling if he is a goal getter than he will get goals. {Ed052's Note - He should get chances, but hasn't Suso gone on loan - all very confusing}

Suso has NOT gone on loan. He confirmed the rumours were fake on his official twitter last night. He has also said he is still serving a domestic ban hence why he hasn't been involved in squads.

Yes, id give suso a chance.
brendan, if ur reading this, give susu a do.
UNCLE ZAINY BEAR.

Eds...what is this domestic ban for Suso? {Ed052's Note - Red Card, last game of the season vs Man United. Its just an irdinary ban}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:40:13
Hi Eds Rumours seem to be gaining pace about us possibly wanting to re-sign Owen as he's on a free. Are these just knee jerk reactions to the disasters yesterday or is there anything in them ? Thanks {Ed052's Note - No, we wont sign Owen, or any other freebies for a while anyway}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:33:12
Question for the Eds and Macca really - do you think that FSG realise how big a screw up the last day of the window was - leaving us with only 2 senior strikers - or are they likely to be happy they stuck to their guns on finances? I'm just curious as to how they're likely to perceive how the window went. {Ed002's Note - You are making more of the club not getting Dempsey than really matters.}

Demsey's not really a striker, imo.

He'd have been a useful player to have around because we are a little light in terms of numbers for our front three, but I'm not totally destroyed over it.

- Something Red -

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:32:49
Hi Eds, just a couple of things.

I'm from Melbourne, Australia and have been following this site for a while now and would like to thank all the eds and Macca for all your feedback. I was up and awake all night waiting and hoping for some signings. As we all know, we were extremely disappointed. I cannot get my head around the fact that we got rid of AC before we had a replacement in line. I understand that he doesn't fit the game style but why not just keep him there? Was this a FSG instruction or one from BR to get rid of him?
Also what are our options of signing players after the transfer window closes? Is it true we can only sign free agents? {Ed002's Note - Rodgers wanted Carroll out. Once the transfer window shuts only free agents can be signed.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:31:55
Eds please post this and give ur opinion on the subject.

Now that we've messed up on deadline day it is very important that we sign micheal owen on a year long deal (pay as u play , wages whatever) we have no other options and the forwards are thin.. hes obviously not the player he used to be but if fit can still score goals.. please provide an opinion on the subject.. Ian Ayre should be sacked and ridden on the back of donkey around merseyside

True Red {Ed002's Note - So Liverpool missed out on Dempsey. It is not such a big deal.}

Dont agree 002 it is such a big deal and unfair on the player {Ed002's Note - It is history and Dempsey has a new career at Spurs. Half the people were saying that "Dempsey is not Liverpool class" or some other magniloquent BS. Suck it up and move on.}

Ed002. It's not just about Missing out on Dempsey it's about leaving BR with unproven kids if Suarez is injured or suspended so yes it is a big deal! {Ed002's Note - Rodgers has got the other players he wanted and Liverpool are in the top ten spenders world-wide. If you don't think the likes of Pacheco, Sterling, Morgan etc are good enough to provide a little cover for Suarez then they should be released from their contracts and allowed to resume their careers elsewhere. Cole is back at Liverpool and is perfectly capable of playing as a forward. Borini has been added. Samed Yesil, of which much is expected, has also been added.}

Had to look that up el taciturnity

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:29:53
what an absolute disaster yesterday was. we shouldnt leave things to the last minute why didnt we go in for damiao sooner? why are the owners so stubborn? i reckon ian ayre is going to be sacked now too. i cant understand why we would let big andy go and not bring in a replacement. seriously short of options up front now. im really worried about where the goals are going to come from

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:06:02
Maybe this is our "you cant win anything with youngsters" season. Its gonna have to be!

The Irish Rover

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:25:26
Ed's just a quick question, Do you think Yesill will play a big part in the 1st team or will he be a youth player getting bit/no chance in the 1st team this year? {Ed052's Note - no, bits and bobs Depends how it goes for him in the reserves}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:25:26
Afternoon eds could you clear this up for me please Andy Carroll gone on loan was it 2 mil upfront with the option to buy for 17 mil at end of season, also what I's he on at us and how much are west ham contributing to his wage. Thanks for your time.

Cheers

Kingkenny {Ed052's Note - yes, 100% wages}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:07:28
who else thinks that Walcott should be an option in January? he'll be able to sign a contract for the following season on a free and add something to our attack. {Ed002's Note - No, he won't be able to talk to Liverpool in January - only clubs outside of England.}

Oh right, thanks for clarifying. it would still be a good time to make an offer, as Arsenal would be under pressure. Thanks to the eds for a cracking job over the last few days.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:06:30
A pity our final day deals didn't happen, but I'd still rather see Adam Morgan as a striker option on the bench that AC.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:05:52
Did Suso go on loan to Genk in the end eds? Or has the transfer window in Belgium not closed yet?
Thanks! {Ed002's Note - He is still with the club.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:05:20
The way I look at it is this:-
Our failure to sign a proven striker will provide the perfect opportunity for Sterling to get enough game time to prove himself. It's a vicious circle at his age; he needs the game time to step up to the next level, but would not be risked if we had proven, more senior, strikers, thereby frustrating his progress.
Let's see what he can do. I personally see him as one of the best once he's had enough experience, so throw him in at the deep end. We've got nothing to lose now.
solidair

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:05:05
{Ed002's Note - Much will depend on qualification for the Champions League. If there is no qualification again this season, the club will be in a poor position financially and it will be difficult to see it becoming self-funding in even the medium term. So it is tough to say when they may look to move on from the investment.} well we no went wont make top 4 top 8 looks more like us eds do u think they will sell up cos they cant keep afford to make us better i for one no they have no cash if they did y no players they should sell as soon as b4 they loose more money on us

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:04:48
Goal reporting Liverpool to restart there search for a new managing director

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:03:31
I'm waiting for all the signed and unsigned posts to appologise for the bull they've been posting on transfers of recent :-P. I for one did believe we would sign a striker and at least another player!

I still look forward to seeing Sterling, Sahin & Allen play week in week out. God help us if Suarez gets injured

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:02:56
Ed052- Very optimistic
Ed001- In the middle
Ed002 - Very good looking but pessimistic (a lot of things said are true though)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:56:08
Eds what's the chances of BR wanting Owen back? I for one would love it, perfect tutor for young Morgan {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what he wants in respect of Owen.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:51:51
Trying to find via the search function to no avail... Could someone clear up the following:
1. Did Suso go to Genk or Gent and if so, is it on loan?
2. Is Pacheco still here?
3. Where is Doni?
Many thanks!
rjb {Ed002's Note - All are still with the club.}

Many thanks Ed002....great job and thank you for all the effort! Hope you had fun stateside!
rjb

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:23:21
After this disastrous day, we could do a lot worse than sign Robbie Fowler.... I kid you not !

Would prefer Robbie to Owen, but wouldnt be surprised BR signs Owen considering the mess Ian Ayre has now left him in.

What on earth was Ian Ayre doing by letting Carrol go, when he knew he wouldnt ( or maybe couldnt ) bid a sensible price for Dempsey ?

Looks like axe is gonna land fairly and squarely on his head this time. I bet FSG are fuming !

Tel 1949

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:20:19
Hey all n' Ed's, i spent the majority of the day glued to sky and Liverpool rumours, bouncing between the two. So i'm gutted we seem to be overall lacking in organisation skills and couldn't negotiate a simple deal for a proven goal scorer who wanted to come to us. But that's the end of my negativity, today it's gone.

We have many an option to play in a front three. Sterling did very well against Man City, Shelvey played in a front three for Blackpool and bagged 6 goals and a couple of assists in a couple of months on loan, he's only got better since then. Gerrard played there against Hearts for some of the match, Borini, Assadi canplay in the front line as can Yesil and Morgan play in the front line, if needed.

Not to forget a certain number 7 Luis Suarez, who is quite effective in attack. So i think Liverpool have plenty of options for scoring goals and going forward and January is only 4 months away if we are really struggling with injuries, form and goals, which i don't believe we will be.

Suarez, Borini, Assadi, Sterling and Gerrard will be enough, if we can cut out conceding silly goals we'll be very good. I like Carroll and supported him all the way through, but let's be honest he didn't get us goals in the league and for all i like cups, i really want to progress in the league, otherwise we might as well have kept King Kenny to get us to a couple more cup finals. Just my opinions.

Peace, Ollieston.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:19:29
Great to see Fulham getting stuffed :)

Aye, and Carroll winning the man of the match probably!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:16:25
Well done Ed052, a bit of common sence on here, we have very good young players, and versatile players, we will be fine. Actually looking forward to it.
RNred {Ed052's Note - Thanks mate. We have nothing to get worked up about, or worried. It is just silly. It is politics and we shall see the football do the talking}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:14:14
Sound like big AC is having a really good game for the hammers, hope he does well there, gutted we let him go.
Paul the red {Ed052's Note - I want him to do well, but I wanted him to go. Hopefully he does well, and goes there on a permanent at the end of the year}

He's playing well, it'll help maintain some value in him. But I looked at the BBC's commentary and they're crediting him with goals that he was involved in because of 'his presence'.

Is the whole world full of hyperbole now?

- Something Red -

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:10:46
Why are people getting into such a state because we failed to sign Dempsey? He was probably our only realistic target on deadline day but he was not that crucial in whether the time will succed or fail. Give the team and system time to develop and reassess in January!

Redpath {Ed052's Note - We can re asses in January, and see if we need to sign anyone. We cannot do worse than last year}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:09:28
Hey eds any possibilities of getting drogba or anelka? after the recent problems of the chinese clubs

YNWA {Ed052's Note - no}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:09:19
hi eds
hearing ian ayre is going to be sacked
appently fsg are unhappy at him for the handling of dempsey. are looking at replacing him next week {Ed052's Note - Could happen yes}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:08:42
How much money have the owners spent on players minus the money from sales?
Any news on the stadium yet? {Ed052's Note - Well, this summer, it is around £40m. BUt no news on Stadium. I expect something soon though}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:08:05
alright eds, great job you all did over the transfer window in receiving about 12 posts a minute and on top of that completing all them player profiles throughout the window.
Now i obviously would've loved us to sign dempsey as well as another striker on top of what we already had but now assaidi, sterling, morgan, borini and yesmil have a proper chance to show us what they can do and we can really benefit from this in the long run.
Yes it is a huge risk to be so undermanned up top but we can improve in January if we so need, as long as we remain in the hunt for the top 4 then we will be grand.
My only real worry is if we get an injury to Suarez before January. I would also have loved us to get rid of Cole but all in all it was a good window.
People really need to stop panicking.
derryred {Ed052's Note - They do mate - just what I have been saying}

Aye ed cheers for the reply, how do you reckon the transfer window went for us on the whole?
I actually think it went well. The wage bill has been addressed. We have more options out wide in Borini and Assaidi and our midfield has been buffed up. We finally got rid of aquilani and the older bit part players were sold. Spearing can also perhaps learn a thing or two from his loan spell with Bolton and can hopefully return a better player.
derryred {Ed052's Note - No problem. I think the window was agreat success. The calibre of player bought in has been superb. Dalglish said he would only buy players who improved the squad. That was talk, and BR has actually done that. Outgoings has been good too. People are getting too worried about the outgoings as well. EVen in an injury crisis, the players who have left wouldn't have played, so they might as well have left. HAHA mate, we agree on everything tbh.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:44:25
Why don't we go for Michael Owen - free agent - and we need back-up striker

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:43:14
Ed's

I've read in the past from a few different people that Liverpool are one of the worse teams to deal with over transfers because we are arrogant. Years ago we may have been able to get away with it but nowadays do you think teams just don't see us as the giant we once was and refuse to put up with our attitude towards them?

dmedly

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:46:32
Hello Ed002, a nice n' easy theoretical question for you. :)

If Carroll were to receive a nasty injury, can Liverpool recall him?

It seems as though it is much more difficult when money has been accepted as part of a loan deal. But if Carroll were to do his ankle again would Liverpool insist that he return to the parent club?

How in all likelihood would it pan out, as we have a lot of money and value tied up in Carroll. Cheers Ed. {Ed002's Note - If a player has a serious injury whilst on loan he would almost certainly return to the owning club.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:45:12
Hi eds,

This ones for ed002 (my fave ed) do you think the club is for sale at the right price ? Surely FSG can't take the club forward without champions league money.They must have planned ahead when the took over thinking that we would be there already. After hearing the ammount its costing them surely they will consider offers.

Thanks

Red raj {Ed002's Note - The club is not for sale at this time. FSG are taking the club forward.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 14:00:37
I have it from a very good source that FSG are furious that no new faces came especially Dempsey and are putting the blame at Ian Ayres feet.....he will be the next casualty at LFC...trust me .... redneck

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:54:57
One positive from andy Carroll going to west ham is they are now an one man team which won't be able to play against us so should be an easy 6 points.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:50:56
great seeing big andy doing well today. YNWa
Capetownred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:48:34
this fsg statement that liverpool should self sufficant means what they want is liverpool fc to genarate their own cash for players without them having to put any dollars in!the whole idea of selling the club was to find someone who had the finaincial power to compete with man u at the time an possible chelsea!we was self sufficant to a point under moores but he didnt have the big money we needed to compete so he sold to a pair of clowns!if fsg havnt got the money to put into the club then they have misunderstud thier mandate just like hicks an gillette.ayres an purslow wouldnt sell to kenny haung cause his multi billion dollar company was funded by the chiness goverment but who are air china owned by?these are the ppl fsg want to build are stadium?this is what the yanks call a cluster f*ck!
deano mcc

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:48:22
Michael Owen to sign a 2 year deal. He was waiting to see if Liverpool signed a striker before joking another club as he is desperate to resign for us!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:41:41
What strikers are free agents that we can sign edd
Bazman {Ed052's Note - Ones who may not get into my local pub team}

Nice one ed052 can people just move on now if i hear anyone being negative by me in the game tomorrow ill personally throw them out im personally looking forward to the game and cant wait to see sahin i think he can score some goals for us this year

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:41:12
Dissapointed YES disheartened NO. Have a gut feeling that Samed Yesil will be our star striker this year. We have a good core of a team that outplayed the Premier league champions last week and one that WILL beat Arsenal tomorrow.

Kris the Red

Unless Suarez goes on a scoring spree...

our star striker this year will be Borini as soon as he is played in the middle where he is most comfortable...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:38:58
At the end of the day none of us are a coach/manager/negotiators. Obviously it looks like we are short up front, but we don't know BR's plan's. Morgan etc might be what he's looking for. We all need to sit tight and see how we are placed come January.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:38:41
Hi Eds. A question about Andy Carroll's loan.

Do you know if there is (or even rumours of) an agreement for West Ham to buy him at the end of the season? {Ed052's Note - yes, £17m I believe}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:37:00
Team Vs Arsenal

Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique

Gerrard Allen Sahin

Suarez Borini Sterling

Jones Kelly Henderson Shelvey Downing Assaidi Morgan {Ed052's Note - Now that is some team!!}

Agreed! Hopefully with Assaldi coming on after the 65~70 min mark. Looking forward to seeing what this lad can do!

K.Bennett

Isn't Agger suspended for 3 matched??

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:35:18
I think I might be the only Liverpool supporter who thought the window wasn't that bad. I need yes we needed a striker, but suarez and borini I think will bang in the goals. If I was Rogers I would bite the bullet and sign Owen for 6months. I don't really care who he played for. I IS a afield legend AND does score goals. Plus I think he would play nicely with suarez as I need a poacher.
I am really happy about sahin and Allen. Sterling needs to be sparingly, Its a great chance for youth....

Eds is Pacheco with us still? Also I hear babel was let go on? Can he come back?

Please liverpool fans I really think it will not be as bad a season as we think.....

Mands {Ed052's Note - Pacheco is with us I think}

Owen is a manc!! He is no legend! Get a grip

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:34:25
Eds any chance we will go for Babel and or Owen whom are both on frees? {Ed052's Note - no}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:30:25
WE ALL NEED A REALITY CHECK!! Turn on your tv and look at the wars,famine,homeless,debt,drugs.We are lucky enough to even support a team like Liverpool.Ok we missed out on Dempsey,Walcott and Sturridge but so what.We got rid of(in all due respect)Carroll,Ecclestone,Adam and Spearing in some form or fashion.We earlier farewelled Bellamy,Maxi,Kuyt,Aquilani and Aurelio.We have signed Borini,Allen,Assaidi,Sahin and Yesel.We also signed the best up and coming manager in world football in Rodgers.We should be excited that we have a young,classy and exciting team that will be underdogs in most oppositions eyes.Since when did a 17yr old kid bring you to your feet every time he touched the ball.Our only weakness will be injury related,where is all the "deadwood" YNWA {Ed052's Note - thanks for putting it all is perspective.}

Excellent post. Some posters on this site should stop behaving like spoilt children.

dd

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:30:22
Time for a reality check after all the doom and gloom!

Is everyone forgetting last Sundays game were we played the champions off the park.

It was the youngest starting XI for 8 years, all the players are still there except the 5 mins from Andy Carroll. Allen looks class and we have more creativity to come in to midfield with Sahin. Raheem has been a revelation but can't be expected to play 50+ games at high intensity, however we also saw how effective he is as an impact sub on Thursday. If Brendan can manage him well, sharing the workload with Assaidi it looks well for the Future.

Adam Morgan will benefit from his first start, he got in to some good positions on Thursday but didn't get played in, which will come when Allen and Sahin get to know all our strikers movements. Yesil has a great record at U19 International level, so can be introduced slowly if needed. Gerrard can also be pushed a little further forward if needed to interact with Suarez.

Shelvey also looks as if he is relishing more game time and has looked to be getting better with every game.

Yes I agree we could do with a proven striker as cover, but let's get it right, as good as he was last season, Do we really want a player who goes on strike when he doesn't get what he wants?

We have removed £450,000 a week (£23.4m a year) from the wage bill from players who were not going to figure. Let's also not forget that we have conceded 6 goals in 4 competitive games and 5 of those have been from our own errors. If we can get back to the defensive record of last season, we don't have to score a hatfull every week. Give Borini time to settle, Suarez a bit more luck (he has 2 in last 2 games), I am sure we will create more chances with Allen, Sahin and Stirling than Adam, Henderson and Downing that we had last year.

Let's get behind the team, the manager and the owners and I'm sure that if Brendans signings show more promise than Kennys £80m overpriced flops last year, the owners will have more confidence to back him in January with another couple of quality signings like Huntelaar or Llorente who are young and proven.

Bottom line is we are not a mid table team as some are suggesting, changing 0-0's from last season into 1-0's and cutting out defensive errors will have us moving up the table.

Please post this Ed's as some of the fallout from last night is ridiculous, I know we are disappointed about yesterday because we all expected at least 1 to come in, but suggesting the owners should sell is over reacting and clearly people can't remember or dont want to remember the mess that they found us in only 20 months ago.

Cheers,

Warrington Red

Excellent post

KJS

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:30:09
Ed's, Who in your opinion was responsible for NOT signing Dempsey?was it that the owners wouldn't pay 6mill for him or was it down to Ian Ayre

alan50 {Ed052's Note - AYre most probably}

Thanks Ed's,just to ask does Ian Ayre decide the valuation of a player,is it up to him and him alone that decides whether we pay the 6mill for dempsey or not.

And lastly if he wouldn't pay the 6mill why did Rodgers not contact FSG or FSG contact Ayre and TELL him to sign him,now that it seem that FSG are blaming him,surely if the owners wanted us to get him they should have made sure we bought him

alan50 {Ed002's Note - It would not be Ayre making such decisions alone. I have no idea who called who regarding the matter.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:20:01
Let's not all have a go at gag. We gave signed a gem in allen got a world class player in sahin for a season. A promising playe in boring and couple of great potential stats. At the same time we have slashed wage budget and got rid of a lot of older players and deadwood such as ecclestone. Yes we could have done with a striker but I think we have done well this transfer window considering our budget and situation.
Aggerdo
Please post not had one on for a while

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:19:32
Watch it folks! If we're not careful, we'll let a disappointing last day flavour the whole summer. Sahin & Co will wonder what they've let themselves in for and the principled Rodgers could walk (he's not one of us and he won't accept the guff Kenny took!).

But the whole summer has been good. We've got Rodgers and he has a plan. We've kept Suarez, Agger and Skrtel. We've brought in Allen, Borrini, Sahin and the two young lads up front who are both exciting. We've got Lucas back, Johnson looking rejuvenated and Shelvey raising his game. Downing is giving Enrique some competition at LB and we've promoted Kelly, Morgan and Sterling etc from the reserves. The Academy is strong and BR has shown commitment that he'll play the kids if they're good enough.

We've trimmed the wage bill (like I ever had to worry about that in the old days) and we even satisfied the begrudgers by getting rid of Carroll, Adam, Spearing (whether we gave them enough of a chance or not). FSG have made a good start and promised that they're here for the long haul. So what more do you want?!

One thing that's clear to me though is that no-one likes us any more. The press see us as an easy target, other clubs play hardball and old Taggart has succeeded in making everyone else as jealous as he is! Even the F.A. like a bit of Pool-bashing every now and again.

So now, more than ever, we need to stick together, we need a siege mentality and we need to stand tall. Rise above it and act like the most successful team in English football history should. Not become divided, not harass the owners, not criticise our own, and we need to keep our own counsel.

There's no point people here sigining YNWA if they don't mean it! We are Liverpool and we will never walk alone.....

Coyle's Law States....... {Ed052's Note - here here. We have had a wicked summer, Yesterday was a slight downere, but it was only as we thought people would come in - they are not nwecesary. We have Morgan, Sterling, Ibe etc. Suso. We can still acahieve. It is a team game}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:19:20
Rumours have it we are in for Dempsey, Ramerez and Sigurdson in January. Lol come on guys we have some world class youth we can now turn to. Lets hope tyo a great season! Agree Ed's? {Ed052's Note - yes, people say play youth play youth,. he is doing, and people go, buy an old player, be held to ransom, and give him far too much money}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:17:51
Am I the only one who believes that no deadline day signings may actually be a positive?

Granted if Suarez gets injured then we could be in a spot of bother, but almost all teams (bar the two mancs) rely on one main striker to provide/create the majority of the teams goals! Having a small squad could help build a great team spirit, help the players get a true understanding of Rodgers' style through plenty of playing time AND bring through some of our supremely talented youngsters!
Two or three signings yesterday could have meant very limited playing time for Sterling, Borini, Henderson etc. which would probably have stunted their growth and development. All in all I think the squad is more than capable of performing extremely well at least up until January!

Patsy

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:14:25
I wouldn't be surprised if LFC sign Owen on a pay you play deal for a year.. They need cover and his free..

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:10:39
There was an interesting topic on the Liverpool Official Forums suggesting we take a look at Klasnic on loan. Majority of people in the thread said yes as a back up.

I always thought he was half decent, think he could do a job as a backup striker. Can we still get him Ed's? I know it has a 1% chance of happening but still, we need someone, anyone!

Opinions?

Nico {Ed052's Note - no, we wont, and he is worse than what we have}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:08:29
Eds is there anyone on a free that we're possibly looking at? Or is it just see how it goes and reassess in January? {Ed052's Note - no}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:07:46
Cheers ed {Ed052's Note - Thanks}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:07:35
I was wondering does carrolls loan have the option to buy and also if they gave us the amount could we reject it and decide to keep him {Ed052's Note - yes, £17 million. No it has to go through I beleive, but Carroll could reject him. I dont understand the facination with Carroll. I though people didn't like long ball football?}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:04:17
Hi eds.

What role will samir yesil have? Will he be a first-team player/rotation option considering our lack of strikers?

Thanks

Puzzled Red {Ed052's Note - Resrve, and maybe some games yes}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:02:26
can we predict some strong signings in january given the massive reduction in the wage bill as well as the money recouped from transfers? do you think we have worrying times ahead? we needed a striker every lfc fan must pray suarez dooesnt get injured! {Ed052's Note - We copuld get a couple of good players in Jnauary yes}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 13:00:01
Hi eds, thanks for all your hard work, especially over the last few days!
I think we all feel quite deflated & let down today, having loaned Andy out, who was at least showing signs of improvement, and not replacing him.
Just wanted to know your feelings about where our goals are realistically going to come from?
Sterling looks pretty decent but isnt going to get many goals from the wing (or maybe he will?). Borini looks hopeless at the mo. Suarez has the same problem as last year. Whats this Morgan kid like? Have we got any others waiting in the wings?
Dont think I can face another season like last year! {Ed052's Note - Thanks mate. This season will be great. DOnt worry. We will play good football, and achieve}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:27:30
Ed002 welcome back were you at the match last night? what did you think of it?
Campbell {Ed002's Note - Sadly I was on a flight back from America and missed it.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:20:57
Hey eds, can i just firstly say what a fantastic job you did yesterday and throughout the summer. Your efforts are truly appreciated.

Like many other fellow reds i am thoroughly disappointed with the inability of the club to sign a striker yesterday. Leaving us with two, more playmakers than proven goal scorers in Suarez & Borini. I dread to think what will happen if either of them gets injured, as young Adam Morgan still seems very raw and not yet ready for the first team, unless Yesil was signed as a back up?

I was just wondering if you happen to have any information on whether we could be trying to utilise the free agent market to bring in a temporary striker on loan? Dare i say, perhaps Ryan Babel or some other player who would be able to fulfil that role if required of them?

Thanks again Ed's
HX Red {Ed052's Note - Cheers mate. We wont be getting any free agents - luckily}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:19:24
Got to get Owen on a one year pay as you play deal.
We are seriously under resourced in the forward dept.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:18:50
This Yesil lad was signed for about £1mil right? Apparently there's a buy-back clause in the deal meaning that if he does become successful and a fantastic player, Leverkusen can buy him back for the same price.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:57:55
Hi Eds, thanks for all your hard work ,just a thought , Has Bellamy left cardiff and retired ? if so does that not make him a free agent and doesn t mean we could re sign him . Thanks again ,cheers ant {Ed052's Note - Cheers, no I dont think he has.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:57:10
do you think yesil will be given a chance in the league? and may sterling be given a run of games? {Ed052's Note - perhaps in Europe. As I have said Sterling will play most weeks if he keeps performing}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:55:35
I think we should follow the likes of Ajax and appoint a former player as director or head of transfers. Maybe someone like Steve Mcmananan perhaps? Thoughts please. {Ed052's Note - No. Rodgers is in charge, we will not undermine him}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:48:44
hi eds, could we still get someone on loan or does that finish with the transfer window? {Ed052's Note - no. We wont sign anybody. It's fine. Will people stop panicking!!

Ed52 you really are clueless ... your prob one of these guys who said that if the right player becomes available we will get them ha we are some joke... {Ed052's Note - Thanks my friend. I am sure we will get along fine}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:45:40
Hi, eds. it might seem like a stupid question, do you think we will sign anyone during the winter transfer window?

Ratan {Ed052's Note - yes}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:43:17
hey eds, like everyone else I cant understand yesterday. I was wondering if you think we may go for a free agent. Maybe bring back Babel, he would make for a decent 3rd choice striker

Anyways, thanks for all the hard work, I guess you guys can rest easy now lol. I read this site everyday , and enjoy it immensely :)

buster {Ed052's Note - babel has gone to Ajax. There are no good free agents. We dont need to panic. We have plenty of options and a great youth set up}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:37:24
The only people that are going to ruin our club are the impatient fans. To compare the owners and call for their heads over 1 transfer window is ridiculous. You all need to roll your necks in and concentrate on supporting the team. Yes i agree it is disappointing that we did not get another striker in but how many of you have said "give Morgan and Sterling a chance?" well now they have it and you are still moaning. I for one will not be calling for anyones heads as I have listened to what they have said all along, it is going to take time for Rodgers to implement his system, it is goingto take time for the club to build up its finances and get us competing for big name players again and it is going to take time to build or redevelop a new stadium. Honestly I have never seen so many whinging bitches in all my life, no wonder our clubs fans are the laughing stock of Britain, ease your expectations, we should be getting behind the team and acting like every match is a cup final to spur on the team, not unsettling them with banners and abuse towards the owners. I am embarrassed to call myself a Liverpool fan from reading a lot of these posts. If you cant get behind the team because we did not spend big money then go and support City.

Ratty888 {Ed052's Note - We had a greeat transfer window, but just one bad day. It has gone now, the owners are great. They have invested more than I could ever imagine. We are going forward, and that is important}

Oh Raty8888 you were one of them supporting Hicks and Gillete until they destroyed our mighty club

Haha no i was not H&G were obviously destroying the club, FSG are obviously not destroying the club, the people that are destroying the club are the impatient fans who expect us to sign all the top players in the world, spend all our money in the process ala H&G and then moan and spit hatred at the owners and management when they do not get their way, it is damaging towards the club and players and needs to stop. We have some good young players who now have the chance to shine, get behind them instead of crying over an overpriced player we did not sign. Ratty888

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:37:07
Hi All....

I am upset like everyone else with yesterday but we have to get on with what we have and really look at what we are left with.

There was enough people on here wanting to get rid of people like Adam and Spearing. DONE

We got Sahin... and without CL football... that is a coup for the club... we have a squad of midfield which we can really be proud of for the football we are trying to play.

Downing could be used as a left back and Sterling could be used more? Not all bad.

We have the new winger who hasnt even kicked a ball yet... lets give him a chance.

Yes we are one striker short but now there is nowhere for this team to hide waiting for others to score... thats the squad.

Dont get me wrong... im upset ... but half full rather than empty.

DJred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:30:58
Not so much rumour but I wouldn't mind us signing Michael Owen and Ivan Klasnic on free transfers both have good scoring records and could help the young strikers along with playing supporting roles for our main strikers, what do others think? {Ed052's Note - We dont need to make short term rash decisions}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:28:54
Free Agents who are strikers:

Michael Owen
Ivan Klasnic
James Beatie
James Mcfadden
Brett Ormerod
Emile Heskey
Darius Vassel
Mikael Forsel

Personally none of these are ideal. The top two would perhaps be useful short term solutions. However I think giving youth a chance until January is the best option and just pray Suarez and Borini find their shooting boots and don't get injured. Its a great opportunity for Yesil and Morgan to step up with a bit more playing time. But the fans must be patient because its a big ask for them to come into the first team set up. {Ed052's Note - We have enough people who can score. SHort term options are not needed}

Del piero, Kanu from Portsmouth and Robbie fowler would pay us to play.
We dont need this, we have good players.

I agree. Youth should be given a chance as we did with RF and MO. We have Morgan and yesil so why not? Is Andy Johnson available or has he signed for someone? He would be on my list.

Iggypop {Ed052's Note - AJ has gone to qpr}

Thanks for posting this!
I think Klasnic would be good cover.
Or a super sub.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:27:52
Bet AC has a stormer today, and is man of match with a goal or 2!

Englishbull

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:26:57
Whilst I agree it is not an ideal situation and at this stage we look short up front, I don't believe things are as bad as they seem. If you look at our contenders for 4th place (Arsenal & Spurs) they are both, in my opinion, weaker than they were last year, whilst overall we are much the same if not with more quality.

Barca don't necessarily play with an out and out striker but they do have Messi - come on Assaidi!!!!!

FT

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:26:39
I know we are all disappointed at the deadline day debacle, the nadir of which was the Dempsey fiasco. I see lots of people posting how we are short of strikers, bring on the youth, etc. The one player whom no-one has mentioned is JOE COLE. Now it seems unlikely, but I can only imagine he must be part of the squad who we will rely on until January.

Of course, we may not even get any funds in January - FSG may decide they are happy with top-half this season, develop the youth to see if we have unearthed some gems, and reassess over the season and make approaches for targets well in advance of the end of this season, so we hit the ground running in the summer transfer window.

It would be a MAJOR success to get into the top 6 with this squad, but the performance against City MUST give some optimism.

Tough season, but we must get behind BR and the boys. {Ed052's Note - Every season will be tough - this year no different, but we are in better shape than Newcastle and Arsenal. Spurs have lots of changes so may not click. If we click as a team soon, play like we did against City, top 4 is easily achievable. It is a team game, not 11 individuals}

Well said Ed052, here's hoping, staring with a win against arsenal. {Ed052's Note - haha cheers}

Ed052, Don't know were your coming from,better shape than Newcastle and Spurs,are you having a laugh,both have better squads than us and both have GOALSCORERS.

As for 4th place being easily achievable, I think you go and have a blood test done,there is more chance of Citeh getting relegated this season.

Our 1st team is alright,our bench will be a joke and if we get any injuries were finished,plus the fact due to our squad being so small we won't get the opportunity to rest players for certain games,so to fight on all 4 fronts is in my opinion IMPOSSIBLE.

Bottom half finish this season for me and don't think we will qualify from the Europa group stage either.

alan50 {Ed052's Note - Erm, Arsenal haven't scored yet. Cisse nor Ba have either. They both seem to have forgotten how to score. Defoe is rubbish and SPurs may not score enough}

Ba scored in Europa game Ed and has just finished Ramadan fast. {Ed052's Note - WOW. Europe, even Suarez can score in Europe}

Ba scored first game of season

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:25:41
A team can sign the biggest names in the game. But if those players don't play well, its pointless. A 50 million pound player having a stinker is not any better than an average players bad day. Look at chelsea last night. A trashing is a trashing. Nobody remembers chelsea's team lineup, just that they got trashed. So stop judging our team on paper and comparing them to other teams 'on paper'. It means nothing. Its what happened on the pitch (as BR's team have proven against man city alrrady this season). Price tags only matter when you want to buy something. The minute u pay, the price tag means nothing(as andy carroll has shown us).
So lets give BR the support as he's probably the only manager who can turn lead into gold.... NOT ON PAPER, BUT ON THE PITCH!
Ynwa The Pirate

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:23:38
well its been a frustrating day today for most of us here. disappointed to see dempsey slip away to spurs.

on the brighter side, the business conducted over the window isnt that bad. the wage bill is reduced with some players leaving. the players who've come in are promising.

letting carrol leave might have been a mistake but its rodger's ship now and he decides the people on board. so lets back him.

we've got a thin squad at the moment. however we may see the youngsters get a chance. sterlings looking good, suso and morgan will get better with more playing time. and we might see yesil on the pitch soon enough.

most of us agree that we were not really going to challenge for the title. champions league spot was also difficult. the situation is still the same. so dont be distraught fellow reds.

i also believe the club management and scouting needs an overhaul. Eds do we need a window for restructuring in that deptt.?

thank you Macca and eds for the fantastic effort you've all put in all this while.

to all fellow reds, lets hope for the best and support our team through thick and thin.
Neo {Ed052's Note - thanks mate. There is no reason to be negative as people are being. That will destroy the club. we are not in big problems. A couple of mistakes were made last night, but over the last 2 years, only good things after good things have been happening. It will continue to get better and better}

Well said Ed52
He was a fan a long time before a lot
of use!

Lyndon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:17:41
Can I Just Say THANK YOU To All The Eds For the Hardwrk They Have Put in Over The Years. Great Work! But I Would Just Like To Say That For All Of Those Blaming FSG And Rogers For What Happend Last Night Your Very Wrong. The Men You should Be Blamming Are Arye,Kenny(with all due Respect) And DAMIEON COMOILI. Arye Is Th Worst Negotiater Known To Man Kind He Pays over the price for a n awful lot of players Kenny nd Comoili Both Throw 110 mill down the drain on over priced players Such as Carrol,Dowing,Hendo,Adam And this is the reason why there not enough funds for this window Thanks (please post) Kay! {Ed052's Note - thanks mate. I have to agree with what you say. However, even though blame may lie with Ayre, dont be hard on him. He loved the club as much as any of us, so be fair}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:14:49
think we have to move this issue aside now a feeling that everyone is against us can be used to great effect lets get behind the lads hopefully they will be hurting like us and put that extra ten percent in when it matters spread the positivity fellow reds lets show everyone why were the best supporters in the world mayhem 1981

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:14:47
Lay off the owners..and even Ian Ayre..they obviously tried their best to sign players for the club..we've still got a good squad and young strikers/other players coming through from the academy (i.e. Yesil, Morgan etc.) and if we continue to play how we did against city (minus the mistakes) we will do just fine.

There's a bright future ahead, fellow reds..

Trust in FSG, trust in BR..

Zero {Ed052's Note - here here, we said Zero. Only one mistake has occured, it can easily be fixed (probably by beating Arseanl tomorrow haha)}

The Voice of Reason!
Well said.

Plus we still have the buy of the season
Mr Allen

Lyndon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:14:41
I wud really like to thank the eds.....have been following the site for a long time...as well as Macca....good info....really unfortunate that we cud not make better use of the transfer window...gud luck to BR...with the team we have if we make it to top 4....it will be all down to good football...YNWA {Ed052's Note - Thanks mate. We did so well until that last day. However, 5 good players have come in, and we have a smallish squad, but packed with only quality players!!}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:14:29
hi eds, although it's still early to say, do u think there will be funds available for the winter transfer window? {Ed052's Note - yes}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:13:27
Eds,
Please can you enlighten us on what went wrong? Surely it can't just have been lack of funds otherwise we wouldn't even have been discussing certain deals. FSG playing Russian Roulette? Inability to thrash out final elements of deal in time? It may show that we won't be held to ransom, but that's academic if the hostage is lost! Disappointed and a little nervous for the coming weeks...
Dr Dwarf {Ed052's Note - It is not FSG's fault. We were close to deals happening, but they just didn't get thropugh. There is a bit of criticism of Ayre - we will have to see what happens to him. Dont panic though, everything is fine}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:12:43
Eds quick question. Thought little dani p was the next big thing.... What the hell happened? Same with babel he's been released and gone to Ajax. {Ed052's Note - I know. Pacheco, he failed to work hard enough on his game. Babel a bit of the same, but he actually just wasn't good enough}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:12:13
What a day !
Huh ? I bet no one saw that coming, although some did say it , but no one truely believed it. I know i didnt.
Eds , please post this. Id like to hear ur views and other fellow reds on this .
I saw Rodgers press confrence yesterday, im very good at reading body language , but the man seamed like he didnt believe his own words. I think he the intentions of the board of not to sign anyone and was trying to forces them to deal.
BR is the best thing to happen to lfc in a longtime, but i feel fsg have deeply offended him, he is a man of intergrity and his word is true, but Ayre and the board have made him look like a headless chicken on deadline day. Before BR came to lfc , he outlined a few demands with regards to controling players and purchases, i fell that fsg have done exactly what BR asked them not to do before he joined.
Id like ur views on this eds .
Oh and i think the squad looks good , but thin. We can expect a lower chance creation this season and fewer goals , i also expect a few big name departings in january. Fsg have lost the faith of players like suarez , agger and reina. {Ed052's Note - No, we tried and tried to get people in, it just couldn't happen. We expected 2 or 3 in, and were so close to doing that as well. The players are happy. BR will be a little pissed off for now - but he is happy with the squad. Also, epople complain about so many players leaving - but they diodn't even get a game, so why does it matter? I still think we can do well this year}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:00:12
need a new striker bolt anyone lol free transfer!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:59:10
Eds im interested to hear your views on what went on in the last 48hrs? From our stringing along of Dempsey and Fulham to offloading Carroll and other forwards with only Borini and Assaidi coming in to replace them all? Cant say im too happy about he whole situation and lay the whole blame at FSGs door. {Ed001's Note - it is hard to tell, we know Dempsey hung on all day waiting for us, refusing offer after offer to go elsewhere. We know Fulham feel we messed them about and were playing silly games trying to force them into a corner. What we don't know is the full story from our side. Did Ayre play a high stakes game of poker and lose badly? Or was he under instruction to fail in order to reduce our wage bill? Personally I am of the opinion that Ayre messed up, though I do think FSG wanted the wage bill reduced, I also think they were happy to sanction the signings of Sturridge (on loan) and Dempsey. Dempsey certainly was led to believe that we had every intention of making a deal for him, hence why he waited. My opinion is that Ayre was trying too hard to be a tough negotiator and just made a complete hash of things. He has already shown a complete lack of leadership over the course of the last season, now he has shown an inability to make a deal when a lot depends on it. Any goodwill we ever had with Fulham has been completely and utterly shredded this transfer window. That might not seem important to some people, but this is Liverpool, we have always prided ourselves on fairness.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:56:56
Hi there Ed's and fellow reds!

Now I think we can all agree that we are all disappointed in what went on last night, mainly focusing on the fact we failed to bring in any form of goal threat yesterday, something that we do seem to lack with a real lack of depth in attack.

However, I have seen many people say "we don't have a 30 goal a season striker" or "there's no way we can score enough goals to get into the top four".

If I'm being honest I'm not sure I agree. The average amount of goals scored to get into the top four over the last few years has been just under 70 goals. This number seems like a pretty big ask at an initial look, but when breaking the team down into sections and looking at the goals those areas can provide I would say we have a solid amount of goals in our squad.

Defence: Johnson can grab a few, while Skrtel and Agger are both threats from set pieces, and maybe Enrique or Kelly will chip in with one or two. I would say 10 goals from defence is a realistic target.

Base Midfield: I've split the midfield into two sections as it makes it easier to look at different players scoring different goals. Looking at the players who will make up the base of our midfield (Allen, Sahin, Lucas, Henderson) I think they can all get 2-4 goals each so we can say about 12 between them?

Attacking Midfield: I would assume that maybe Gerrard and Shelvey, and maybe even Suso, will play as the more attacking minded midfielders in our formation and I think that 12 goals between them is not unrealistic.

Wingers: The players that will play as support to the strikers (Sterling, Downing, Assaidi, Cole) should all grab a few goals for us. Downing can't be like last year, Sterling looks dangerous, Assaidi has scored goals in Holland, and Cole may add a couple. I reckon about another 15 from those guys.

Strikers: This is the area we need to strengthen and a lot of the burden will fall on the shoulders of Borini and, especially, Suarez to score goals. I think Suarez has 15 in him over a season, while Borini should get at least 10. Morgan, Pacheco and maybe even a free transfer signing should get 5 between them, assuming they get games, which it looks like they will.

So with those goals added together we have 10, 12, 12, 15 and 30. That's 79 goals. I honestly don't think any of the figures I've suggested are unrealistic (as long as we haven't offended the woodwork gods like last year). And who knows, there might be more goalscorers added in January.

So maybe things aren't so bad after all?

Red Maverick

Your missing the point lad, this team cannot score 70 goals a season {Ed052's Note - Yes it can. It erally erally can}

There's looking on the bright side and then there this

Agree with you mate, maybe it looks a bit too optimistic in respect of the deadline shock, however, if we manage to get 3 points against arsenal tomorrow, there would definitely be something to build on, and i see no reason why your math shouldn't happen. Jackie, YNWA, JFT96

I like your optimism mate, but you are just throwing numbers out there to reach a figure that is attractive. I wouldn't be banking on us scoring 79 goals on the basis of guess work.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:54:16
A spin on last nights events....

BR now has to revert to his plan B, after missing out on 1-2 strikers last night BR will now change the team set up from 4-3-3 to a 4-6, the Barca way.

Gerrard, Sahin, Allen, Suarez, Sterling, Lucas (when fit) Borini (until Lucas returns)

Assaidi, Henderson, Morgan, Suso, Downing as back up

As for Joe (Aquilani) Cole If I was BR I would let him rot, I wouldn't allow him anywhere near the club, mercenary....

Curled1

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:05:39
Red sox lost 20 - 2 last night. Worst result in twelve years. Beaten by ex players! If you read their website they have got rid off 260m dollars of wages this year. FSG are financially restructuring both teams. Just thought you need to know.

Yeah and BOTH teams will suffer hugely.

If you can't afford it don't buy it

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:05:14
Hi eds, I posted last night a few optins I looked up as free agents, (kanoute, Castro, van nistelroy, del perio, m.Owen, Ruben, and Ryan bebel.. I would go fo Ryan babel again play him thru the middle and tell him to shoot on sight.. I can believe also after our euro draw we didn't buy. Man city bought all them players because the got a tough draw in Europe? What you think eds. {Ed002's Note - Babel signed for Ajax.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:03:51
Ed02 in you honest opinion do you think the owners really have the financial clout to sustain us as a club at present or could you see this becoming another hicks and gillett scenario?.. I know they arent mercenaries like they were but i cant see how they can sustain losing a million a week, they just havent got the wealth and becoming self sufficient is a million miles away..

Thanks for your time

Ian the red {Ed002's Note - The owners have been picking up the significant losses the club have made since they arrived. A lot of money has been committed to transfers. Not being in the Champions League means a loss of income from the competition and from the club's main sponsore, Standard Chartered. The goal is to get back in teh Champions League and sustain that position. A player was missed out on in the Window - Dempsey. It matters not. The owners are doing what they can to rid the club of the financial drain of fringe players who have been on expensive contracts. Clearly there is finally the recognition that Comolli and Dalglish screwed up. That too has been resolved.}

Usually I agree with you Ed002 and you always make sense however this time you are wrong Kenny did not screw up going into the transfer market is a gamble for any mgr.

How much has Fergie or Mancini spent on players that did not work out considerably more than Kenny, only difference is that those two clubs can sustain these problems much better than LFC.

AnCo {Ed002's Note - Why the meaningless comparisons? Do you think that Carroll was good value for money? And Dowing worked out? Henderson has been a reverlation? Coates? You think all of these players were value for money and worked out well? Where did the club end up in the league with Dalglish as manager? I appreciate what Dalglish means to the club and what he has given over the years but you really need to take of the rose tinted glasses and see the mess he made of things last year.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:03:38
any news on anyone coming in in january lol
exmouth red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:03:33
Not being funny and i know everyone says he has an attitude but give pacheco a chance stick him up front hes a very good player did well in pre-season so why not? not like we are spoiled for choice.

ACHILLES.

Thank you

he is miles better than Morgan anyway.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:02:29
another set of promises from the yanks looks to familiar to me.no stadium to start gone quite.get rid of carrol no replacement.tragic these yanks are to similar to the last lot if you ask me.they said they would be able to compete with the top clubs for players .....well whats happen tom are you remiding us of the old owners hicks and his cronnie

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:02:13
Great site eds !! Can anyone else see similarities between h.g and fsg ? Spend big in year one ... Then start to fail with getting players in..... Us fans will blame chief exc ayre ( rick parry ) owners have more time .... To build stadium .... Both never started !! But hey it's ok some one will save us .... Maybe some yanks ..... Then do the same dance !! Brendan rogers wasnt my first choice as manager ... But he's been well screwed !! Why did they never consider rafa .... Because he would have never stood for it !! He would have Sussed them straight away

Rafa would have taken the £4m from the Adam sale and brought in someone with the same potential as Borini but two years younger.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:01:50
Hi Fellow Liverpool Family

The dust is settling and the sun is rising, just getting over the events of last night (excellent Eds, by the way).
Liverpool are not a local club, not an English club, nor a European club, they are a Global club and that comes with a great deal of responsibility to its supporters from all over the world. When the club manager goes on TV and states to the media of the world he is expecting new players, and even weakens his team in the proviso this happens the people at the top have a responsibility to achieve that goal, whatever.
When supporters all over the world are told that the club is so financially sound that it can compete with the big boys and are able to reach the top 4 of the league and then as we have seen last night, cannot muster up an extra couple of million to secure a signing the manager has requested, it makes us all believe that the owners are not being totally truthful AND THAT THEY ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED with this great club.

If we are feeling let down this morning, take a few moments to for the likes of Suarez, Skirtle, Agger, Reina, Gerrard, the manager to name a few. All these have recently signed long term contracts with the club on the proviso that Liverpool would be fighting for the top 4, last time this happened our most prolific goal scorer of the past 20 years was lied to and rightly left.

We all seem to be blaming Daglish and Comolli, however the same people at the top signed the cheques for these players showing how inept they are in football management.

The ramifications of last night could be massive, and more detrimental than losing and extra million on a player who is capable of scoring 10 - 15 goals a season. January may be a very destructive window for us, if we dont do well in the next few months and players, rightly so force moves out of the club. Sometimes in business you have to speculate to accumulate, and show your intent to move forward, it will be very interesting how the club play down the debacle of the past few days as most of the Liverpool family and the outside world see us as a club with little direction with inept inexperienced management and god forbid a club that could be in total financial crisis once more!!


A sad worried Evered

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:01:47
Mikael forssell, james beattie, michael owen, darius vassell or emile heskey? strikers without clubs... who should we sign? i would take a chance on judas... best of a bad bunch and we are now desperate. waiting on a backlash now but im just trying to cling on to some sort of positivity after yesterdays disappointment regardless of how little there may be... at least we have kept onto pacheco.. will come in handy now

ryan lfc belfast ynwa

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:01:09
everyone i speak to thinks not,but i think borini will fire under brendan ,just a hunch but its what i believe ,given a little time... allfc

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:00:42
I think we should post a link to this page on the official site and do all we can to make Rogers and Henry see it!!

We want you gone already guys! Take a hint and Do One!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:11:27
A team can sign the biggest names in the game. But if those players don't play well, its pointless. A 50 million pound player having a stinker is not any better than an average players bad day. Look at chelsea last night. A trashing is a trashing. Nobody remembers chelsea's team lineup, just that they got trashed. So stop judging our team on paper and comparing them to other teams 'on paper'. It means nothing. Its what happened on the pitch (as BR's team have proven against man city alrrady this season). Price tags only matter when you want to buy something. The minute u pay, the price tag means nothing(as andy carroll has shown us).
So lets give BR the support as he's probably the only manager who can turn lead into gold.... NOT ON PAPER, BUT ON THE PITCH!
Ynwa The Pirate

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:11:01
I know were all disappointed with how the window finished, but its not the end of the world.

If Assaidi goes alright then we will be okay. If him and Suarez torture defences out wide and supply good balls for Borini and each other i cant see why we wont score goals. We have seen how good young Sterling goes, who is to say Yesil wont be a hit as well. Give the team a chance, lets do all we can do and get behind them yeah, YNWA right?

Fan from down-under {Ed052's Note - It is not that bad. Youngsters will get a chance, and, we dont know how the team will play. people say our squad is small now, but the players who went didn't play anyway - so it can only be good that they have gone. yes a player or two in would have been nice - but it doesn't matter. We have plenty of quality players to be working with}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:10:31
edds
do we have a option to recall carrol
if a player gets injured etc {Ed052's Note - no, but we dont need either}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:10:28
Unless FSG make some statement about what has happened along with a gurentee that it will not hap[pen again , then I fully expect to lose Suarez and Agger in the January window. Why on earth would they stay? {Ed052's Note - They wont leave in January. ANyway, you have no idea how the team will perform. We have plenty of players who can score if they click. We could end up top 4 easily. It isn't all about big money signings, and new players in you know!}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 12:08:19
We have still got Pacheco, Yesil, if he is ready to play and there is still a possibility of signing a player on a free.

Zero

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:22:23
morning eds052


know its unlikely but what about Michel Owen he is a free agent so it would be a bargain and can still do the job


redman tid {Ed052's Note - No chance sorry}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:53:50
The amount of rubbish trigger happy supporters are spewing on here is pathetic. Fsg out? And then what given there is NO suitable buyer right now?

I understand the feelings I'm gutted as well but this is ridiculous what I am reading. Now ofc of makes very poor reading that we did not buy anyone to cover and I'm sure rogers did not see this coming. However. There was a major issue of wages which has now been dealt with. Furthermore how can people continue to state that we 'should' be able to spend big as if it is a divine right. Football is a business and business needs money. Face up to it and move on.

Finally I'm still rather optimistic. Our first team is still strong. And so is the bench. And we have a strong youth core coming too.

RedM

Your having a laugh,strong bench,what planet are you living on

Jones,Carra,Coates,Morgan,Henderson,Downing

It's no wonder City bought 5 new players and Chelsea spent 80mill,they must be terrified

alan50

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:53:46
John w henry says expanding anfield or new stadium is not necessary as some fans think

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:53:26
To all the posts on Rumours about FSG shafting Rogers. Last time I checked, they signed Borini and Allen for him THIS window virtually as soon as Rogers requested them. That is £26M between them.

They signed Ossaidi for £3M.
They signed Yessil for £1M.

£30M spent.

They stumped up for Sigursson but HE was the one who upped the personal terms he had already agreed to take at Swansea and Rogers knew that. Who likes to be made a fool of? It is not stubborness, it is good sense.

We got back in £4M for Adam and the rest are loan deals. Yes some savings on wages but still a healthy net spend for people HE wants.

We got rid of loads of high earners like Maxi, Dirk, Aquiliani etc.

New contracts for Skrytel, Suarez and a few others.

And we have Sterling, Morgan coming through, both very promising and can contribute THIS season.

This window was successful. We didn't get the cherry on top of the cake but we still got a very nice cake.

Be happy.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:53:09
Ed do u think there's any chance we can sign anybody from France, knowing that it's not closed till Tuesday
Cheers
Gary {Ed002's Note - Liverpool cannot sign anyone from France. PLayers may be sold to France though.}

Joe get on your Bike

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:53:08
It makes me laugh that everyone's complaining if anything I thought you would be happy that it looks like youth have took priority. In 4 years or even 3 years time we will have a fantastic young team. I'm glad the big pile of poo carrol has gone and happy kuyt has as well. We're looking to future with a fabulous young squad and new style. Up the reds

Scouse ben

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:52:58
We self destruct everytime we're on the up! The club scores more own goals than any other club.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:51:33
Rogers will walk or be sacked in May after a terrible season!

FSG will continue their H&G style reign or terror selling our best players.... but don't worry lads!! They have smartly organised a documentary to showcase to the world what total and utter shambles we are.

Lets get the "Yanks Out" banners back again guys and force these pathetic idividuals out of our club with a nice little restraining order around Anfield that no Americans can come within 5miles of the place!

Oh and loving the new stadium btw! Seriously how broke are these pathetic clowns! I am all for cutting costs but loaning out an England international and bringing in nobody is totally stupid.

If we lose tomorrow thats it! Season over, will be in serious danger of relegation based on some horrific prefromances against Hearts and WBA. Any person could see we needed a goalscorer since Torres left!

Henry, Werner and Ayre Get Out of my club and go join an investment bank where your shamless cost cutting will be appriciated!! Suprised they aren't renting out the away dressing room Mon-Fri to bring in some extra pennies!!!

Furious David!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:50:17
eD... Do you think ,Assaidi can play the role of striker in future?? He looks so like a sriker .....

FaZzY {Ed002's Note - I have no idea. What about Pacheco and Morgan?}

Morgan is not ready.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:50:16
the main concern that i have with the risk fsg are placing on us with few attacking options is that say the worst happened and suarez picked up an injury which wud rule him out for 6 months then we wud be left with borini as the main striker and after that morgan or yesil. in my opinion this is not a problem that a club with top 4 aspirations shud be forced to deal with.

a very nervous lfc fan

Well Chelsea have only got Torres and Sturridge, they are a so called top 4 team

Plus mata hazard ramierez that where ther goal will be made up Torres 20+goals sturridge15 midfield and defence 30. We have luis15+ borini10 at best midfield and defence 20 thats the problem ,and Chelsea are not the best are they

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:49:37
Few posters seem to be clued up with free agents we could pick up. Anymore names for us. Desperate times an all that......
Tommy.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:46:51
brendan rodgers isnt to blame for not signing a striker on deadline day he hands the team upstairs a list of names that he would like at the club its upto the team and ian ayre to pursue these players and they've failed to do so,so i think it should cost ian ayre his job cos lets behonest a striker was priority for us and now we will hav rely on youngster adam morgan which i dont mind cos he his going to be class but its alot of pressure on a youngsters shoulders.

Brendan rodgers is a breathe of fresh air we played good football last season but under him were playing better this season hes promoted youngsters and we will be a dominat force once again jus the wheels are in motion at the minute give it time people exciting times ahead!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:45:34
i feel sorry for B.R today he has been let down in a big way by the board so llets stick by him and vent our frustrations ant them

Becca

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:45:16
So we let go of four senior fowards: Kuyt, Carrol, Maxi and Bellamy and we signed an average and inexperienced Borini leaving us with just Suarez as our only potent strike force.

Well its now clear that FSG don't care about LFC, despite so much gondwill from supporters of this club. Now FSG want to squander it on the alter of carelessness.

We must now hurry and get in free agents as a way forward or outrightly convert Assaidi a striker to remedy our shortages or we are doomed this season.

Ed 001, is Assaidi ready to play yet?

Sad Fan {Ed001's Note - should be, there is no reason for him not being ready.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:44:45
Ed's, seeing as the the deals we had in place fell through, can we recall Carroll if needs be ie. Injurys etc? Is there any chance we can go after any free agents? Are there any decent ones available? Sorry about all the questions

Kopite81 {Ed001's Note - no we can't. Not really, no. It is mostly has beens or never has beens that are available for free transfers.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:44:02
Eds do you know why we loaned Carroll out for 1 million? It makes no sense at all.. The only thing I can think off is basically we want his price to go up and he won't do that on our bench? {Ed001's Note - because we don't want him and it is pointless paying a player to sit on the bench.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:43:00
Don't bite my head off but trying to find any silver lining out of this disastrous transfer situation. At least we can see some of our youngsters given more of a chance.

Adorjan
Ibe
McLaughlin
Ngoo
Sama
Morgan
Wisdom
Coady
Suso

I know we can't rely on youngsters before you say but i hope a couple of these may get a chance now.

FowlerGod. {Ed001's Note - Suso joined Genk (or was it Gent? I always get those two mixed up!).}

It was supposed to be Genk, but I'm sure the move fell through Ed.

Papa G

Didn't know. Was it on loan?

FowlerGod. {Ed052's Note - Yes}

Suso hasnt moved on loan he still at liverpool COME ON EL MARVELOSO.

That's the same thing that happened to the promising Chris Mavinga under Roy, he complained that chances only go to British players and was shipped out.

Suso should be played at RWF ahead of Morgan. Morgan did nothing in that game against Hearts, he was completely out of his depth.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:41:57
I have just been out to buy a takeawy for dinner in Stafford city, a suburb in Brisbane, Aus. Who stands next to me, a man and his son wearing a LFC warrior track suit. First words were, bad day at transfers, so we have chat. What we discussed is the magnitude and size of following around the world. Something that FSG still cannot grasp. I work with four Aussies not expats, who follow this website and love LFC. They dream of winning lotto and taking themselves to Anfield and seeing the team in the flesh. Tomorrow there will be a lucky 45,000 there to watch the reds. Get behind the team, they are good enough, it is important that we step up and lift. It is the responsibility of the team to step up and lift. What we can't do is wallow, in self pity, no one is going to get us out of this but the current players and fans. Forget FSG, their true colours are shown, they are a PR disaster, the trust by the fans is gone. I went back for the stadium tour with my kids last year, tears welled up as I stood on the Kop with 30 other tourist. I cannot be there, I cannot emigrate back, but I support LFC by buying their shirts from the club website and forever talking positively about LFC is an Icon. FSG don,t understand but you and I do. Good Luck tomorrow. Future is in our hands. Beancounter.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:41:41
Let's move on some crazy statements,we have strengthened the team but weakend the squad.yeh we should of got a striker but it didn't happend for us in this window.ppl are forgeting we blew 100mil on average players on stupid wages last season.i for 1 just wouldn't want us to sign just any1,a panic buy like we did we Carroll.allen sahin boroni,and with young players coming threw we will be ok.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:41:36
We could still get Heskey & Owen every cloud and all that!
Mr optimism

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:40:28
Hey guys a spurs fan here
Probably the last ones you wanting to be hearing from today ....
But I have a soft spot for the club due to freinds and some family being supporters
I am sorry to hear your club has kind of screwed you over for strikers and depth ....
Shipping three players that were in and around first team last season and signing nobody is rediculous ...
However I have heard that a certain English forward at Chelsea could be a loan target as that window is still open ...
Before I get blasted for you guys not wanting loan players let me just say
Ade was loaned to us last year look how well he did ..... *shrugs*
And as a spurs fan I must say the Dempsey thing ..... Im still undecided on the guy .... I don't think hes good enough for top end clubs Liverpool - spurs etc
Although i got slated for saying this last time i hope we are both in the top 4-5 this season
Bear yid {Ed001's Note - the loan window is NOT open. We already tried and failed to get Sturridge on loan.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:40:09
Hi all,

No doubt you are all pretty disappointed like me. But to put a twist on it may be we have proven a point in the mean time that the club wont be held to ransom when it comes to transfers which will bode well going fwd.

As I conttinue clutching at straws, does anyone know who is available on a free transfer at the moment? Aside from Owen, isnt Babel available on a free after being released? Cant find a decent list of free agents on the internet if anyone could post a link in their reply?

Cheers

Andy Npton Red {Ed001's Note - Babel signed for Ajax.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:29:42
I am usually not very reactionary and quiet calm in my posts but I actually feel a little betrayed by the owners. I feel a bit stupid because when I have been talking to my manc and evertonian mates in the pub I have been telling them how great our new owners are and just wait until you see us at the end of the window when we have a quality strike force. I actually don't know what to think now. The owners have f**ked up big time. Sorry for my depressing tone. I'm hungover and disappointed.
Red Greco

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:29:06
How have lfc got the cheek to put the deadline show on again on lfc.tv salt in the wounds fsg ayre go

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:29:04
just a big thank you to you EDS for all your hard work well done boys walk on,ed is there any chance that we did sign a player or player's but lfc have not broke the news yet,i know im just hoping but you never know,cant see that we will a lot of player's going with none coming in ??.jay essex red for life red till dead...... {Ed001's Note - sorry mate, no.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:26:10
Well after digesting all of yesterdays goings on I feel firstly that deadline day should be banned and a much better system should be conceived ! I think that most of the fans comparing FSG to Faustus and the devil have been carried away by the hysteria that goes with this ridiculous, farcical spectacle that is the transfer window ! Secondly look at what happened last year when they backed KD to the hilt and went out and bought any player over 20 M that suited the new regime. If it was me I would struggle to give a new up and coming manager silly amounts of money before he proved himself as the right man for the job. If we find ourself in a promising position in January I am certain that they will buy big. Thirdly are us true fans really that dissapointed about Dempsey ? It strikes me that when we buy a so called proven premiership player they go into meltdown and can't deal with the liverpool pressure 'a la Kewell'. Come on people a new day has risen along with another roller coaster ride of a season and if we spank the arse tomorrow this will all be a forgotten saga ! Come on the boys... Come on Brendan... and last of all but not least come on the faithful fans after all we never walk alone ? Tobiwan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:26:03
Owen seems like the best bet. Sign him for 1 season and that gives us the January bargains and who knows, maybe Liverpool is his soul club and he may bang um in again.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:25:57
Stop blaming FSG for our transfer deadline day fiasco. They r running liverpool at a loss, gave dalglish 80 million to spent, which he threw down the drain.
KENNY DALGISH : From hero to zero. We r still suffering coz of his incompetence.
Dont even get me started on Comolli. They have made us a laughing stock.
Indian Buzzer

Indian Buzzer - you are wrong. The money Kenny spent was almost entirely funded by the sale of Torres and Mascherano....70 million... Kenny bought crap, but the owners are businessmen....not {Ed052's Note - You are wrong. Kenny spent around £70 million out of the owners pockets. This summer, the owners have spent another £30 million. They ahve payed of debts, and got the club, £300m, managers staff - £50m. We are talking around £600m we have cost them, they have made zilch}

Yeah they gave him £80m a guy that they had no long term faith in which says something about them.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:23:12
Forest fan in peace.

Whats happening to your club?

Players leaving......

No signings.......

Unable to attract big name players......

Some of your best players knocking on a bit......

Promise this is not a wind up, just an observation.

I like to see Liverpool challenging, I think the PL is a better place with Liverpool up there.

Just wondering whats going off from your point of view?

Good luck and hope to see you in the PL soon and revive those great games we used to have.

You have no right to say that we can't attract top players or our clubs in trouble, even if you mean good. Last time I checked, forest struggle to attract our reserve players.
AnfieldUSA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:19:09
Eds, do u think now the window has slammed shut, and we did not make any sort of adequate replacement for AC would Michael "judas" Owen b considerd with him beeing a free agent and all? Please post a reply!

Decs_lfc {Ed001's Note - why? We would be better off signing no one than that little leech.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:40:04
I am angry at owners, as most on here are. But imagine things from their perspective: they spent close to 100 million last year on new players, in a catastrophic spending spree that made the team weaker, and we had to start all over again. They will have lost on every player that we sold (example, C. Adam. 9 million last year, plus wages. Left for 4 or 5 million). I can see why they want to play things a little wiser this time around, though I am sure nobody is happy with the absence of Dempsey. I suspect part of that was Fulham wanting to teach us a lesson. Lets hope we can do the same to them when they come to Anfield.

Canada Red

70 Million Came from Torres , Babel , and Raul {Ed052's Note -

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:40:03
We can still sign free agent player right?

if so, then why worry?

We can still add our firepower with Owen, Heskey, Fowler, Rush and even Dalglish!

All free agent and proven goalscorer

*Damn, this window is a disaster!!*

Fowler is still in fighting shape. Get the old man out there.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:39:59
I am gutted about yesterday I really really am HOWEVER.

We outclassed the champions on England Man City. And the reason we lost was two stupid mistakes ( Kelly should of cleared, trying to take it down was stupid & the back pass well no more needs to be said ) but other than that we controlled the game.

And that was without Assaidi and Sahin and without suarez playing his best ( i.e hitting the target ) although he has already scored two this season out of 3 competitive games he played in. He will score more and start taking his chances, he has ability its clear to see but it been a long summer for him and will just time for him to take get top gear.

Plus massive bonus this year his how sterling has come on. He has serious potential. Morgan will come through and work his socks off and get in positions to score. He already had one disallowed. And I still expect Borini to get 10-15 goals.

Overall I am livid with FSG. I noticed eds mentioned champions league qualification and they may sell but I am sorry you don't buy a club and say your going to build or expand stadium if you don't have the money to do so! It was basically a lie. They hoped champions league qualification would happen then they would use that money to fund expanision.

I still BR will get us playing and playing well. Let's get behind team. If tomorrow we can win we can turn the negativity in positive stuff. Get behind Suarez, Assaidi and Sahin, backed up with Allen and Gerrard and young Sterling we should have more than enough chances to score.

Jordan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:37:03
Guy on says Henry has no more money to invest. He also said Henry expected champions league by now

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:35:09
I dont know your opinions but i would rather have had Dempsey then Borini. That signing was useless

Borini was a great buy. He will be a good player for us, still only young and getting used to Premiership pace.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:33:44
No rumours (obviously) but a question. Was it that we completely ballsed it up last night or was it that our real targets didnt become available to us?
Cuttsy {Ed001's Note - we messed up, Dempsey was hanging on, rejecting offers, all day and, in the end, was left with no option but to go to Spurs.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:33:15
Lads, we are all confused, and upset after yesterday. I must have checked the transfer countdown 100 times while at work......

However, lets still get behind the players and Rodgers too. Surely Rodgers wanted to sign players. We all wanted the young guns to have a proper go, and looks like they will certainly get it. We are clearly not deep enough to compete in all competitions this year, so I think we should play almost exclusively young lads in Europa league, including our new 18 y/o striker. We then focus on the league, and perhaps defending our Carling Cup crown!

In January, provided we have performed well, I suspect FSG will cough up the cash for an out and out striker, but who is not relevant right now.

There is also the strong possibility that FSG are looking to get out of the footballing business. Their beloved Red Sox are having a dreadful year, following massive investment in the team in the offseason. Surely this tainted their opinion of spending millions on more players and perhaps sports are not their strong point.

I hope the lack of activity hasn't affected the players we already have. We need them playing 120 percent if we are to have a go at Arsenal.

I for one am keeping my chin up. While Gerrard may be disappointed at the lack of recruits, I bet Morgan, Sterling, Shelvey are licking their lips.

Can't wait till tomorrow. Always a better day.

Coop

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:32:45
Ed's can we get a greif councillor on the Liverpool site during these hard times I just can't cope :-(

L-G

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:31:01
I know we are all gutted but we have got to make the most of this unfortunate situation, the figures I'm hearing by not getting dempsey and all the players wages we've got rid of we must be saving close to half a million quid a week, make use of some of that money and get started on the new stadium or up anfields capacity to 60,000. If we could manage like this for two year adding some clever loan signings the stadium will be complete and the extra income could be vital for us to compete again. I'm not saying all these figures are spot on nor do I think it is as easy as I make out so don't have a go, but I'm sure good buisness men could make the most of this situation. Also I'm not sure Ian aire is up to the job of running this buisness I'm afraid.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:24:27
Gutted. Absolutely gutted. Mr Rodgers said he'd be an absolute nutcase to let Carroll go if he hadnt a replacement come in. He said Samed Yesil was signed to help the reserves not the first team. Something tells me he is just as gutted as we are. When you cannot pay 6 -7 mil for a player whos scored 23 goals in a season, something's not right. Reports say we've put about 450k off the wage bill this window - that's about 23mil per year saved on wages. Impressive? Yes. Good financially, and that seems to be all the owners are interested in.

Every one under the sun knew that Liverpool needed a striker - a goal scorer. Its been well documented. Even the owners knew that. So please tell me where the sense is in us letting Carroll go, having already let the likes of Kuyt, Maxi and Bellamy leave. We know Suarez can score - he's gotten two in two so far. But his reluctance to shoot when he had an open goal vs hearts shows why we need someone ruthless. Borini has yet to prove he can get them on a regular, he missed a chance vs hearts and city which suggested he may not quite be the finisher yet. Sterling is too young to have all that pressure on him. It'll be unfair on the lad. I am yet to see Assaidi but I doubt he'll be our 15 goal a season man. My only hope now is the whole team can chip in with the goals. Skrtel can score goals. Gerrard can score goals. Sahin can score goals. Luis can score goals. Johnson can score goals. However, there is no doubting the league is a squad game. While the starting 11 are good, the squad is paper thin. As it is, we can't do anything until January, but seriously, what the hell are FSG playing at? You don't get CL by balancing your books. Getting CL balances your books.
DAni

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:01:47
Hi Eds, well done to you all for your excellent work and sorry you had no good news to report for all your efforts.

My question is regarding free agents like Michael Owen. Are their any other 'free agent' stickers looking for clubs that we can sign up for 6 months, till the next window? We can not risk going into the next 6 months with only 2 strikers.

LloydyRed4Life {Ed019's Note - I think that we'll weigh up the option }

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:01:27
Just sitting here searching through ebay - not for a striker though - and wondering if the future of buying and selling players could be done through a website like ebayish, can you imagine that you have to bid in a 3 day window and the player can speak to the team he fancies most to thrash out terms. Just a thought.
KernowRed

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:01:11
What is all the moaning about? I think the club dipped it's hand in it's pocket quite well this transfer window. Everyone focuses on the last day and no doubt Rodgers wanted a striker in, but is it such a big drama? We have moved on Aquillani, Kuyt, Maxi, Adam, Carroll and Aurelio. We've brought in Allen, Borini, Assaidi and Sahin. It gives our youngsters like Sterling, Suso Morgan and Pacheco something to play for. Expectations have to be managed too. We have no Champions League, a high wage bill and 8th place to reflect on. I think we have done well in the transfer window considering.
Had we bought Hulk for 40 million or Falcao for 50 million, everyone would expect us to achieve 4th place as a minimum. This new young team can do without the pressure. Let's see how they go until January. If we're in contention for top 4, then get the cheque book out, or else, let the team develop without the pressure and expectation.
It is a long road to our destination- the title. Don't try and run before we can walk.
The Quaggar

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:00:52
What is everyone on about? We have a great strike force :Suarez, Borini, Pacheco and Yesil.

They will destroy defences in the PL what do we know the fans are stupid, Ian Ayre should be knighted.

League title #19 here we come!

I like the positive thinking. But I am still unsure.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:00:47
ED'S I have been on a lot of LFC websites and the level of abuse aimed at FSG is quite alarming, a lot of it is well over the top with fans even wishing death to Werner and Henry, do you know if they have people that monitor websites and will be aware of the feeling of the fans and just how bad it is?

MR EM {Ed019's Note - I'm sure that they do. They'll be disgusted and shocked by it}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:00:19
Lets look on the bright side we kept Agger I would rather not have a striker and keep him than lose him and gain one or two strikers

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:59:37
Its down to Suarez to prove everyone worn now

GAM {Ed019's Note -

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:18:48
i think we are in danger of slipping into bottom half of the league , the teams that get relegated dont score goals , fact , i think we will be panicked into spending too much in january window for new strikers , so all this seems to me like false logic ? ie not spending 6 million for dempsey , our owners have put little money into this club , no new stadium , no fresh money for players to get us into the champions league ! we need new owners fast

hope u post this ? as i want to see how fans feel about FSG , great site eds , do u feel the same as me ?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:18:19
BR to walk!! Not happy after demanding an explanation and getting told FA

Ooh we might get 'arry

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:18:02
Any word on who may be targeted come January? Llorente is likely to be on the move then, though I am not keen on him.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:17:50
what happened to walcott, dempsey, llorente, sturridge and damiao just to name a few? i dont see how we couldnt sign a single soul.

AG

Ed's, I have been posting under the name 'AG' for a while now and the now the above poster has come up with the same one. I mentioned this some time ago too?

The real AG {Ed002's Note - What do you want me to do?}

Well, I could give you my email id and request the other poster to change his name? But, I guess it's easier for me to change my own sign-off. Sorry to bother you eds. Thanks for the reply.

The real AG

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:17:44
i think we are in danger of slipping into bottom half of the league , the teams that get relegated dont score goals , fact , i think we will be panicked into spending too much in january window for new strikers , so all this seems to me like false logic ? ie not spending 6 million for dempsey , our owners have put little money into this club , no new stadium , no fresh money for players to get us into the champions league ! we need new owners fast

please post this eds , as i want to see how other fans feel about FSG at mo , thanks great site , was watching all yesterday

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:17:01
Really pissed me off.
If its the owners FSGs fault y cudnt they stump up 7m Dempsey went for 6m! 6m! Thats peanuts in terms of football and in what we need to spend to were we want to be.
YES Kenny & Commolli spent heavily but alot of it was covered by the sales of Torres,Babel,Meirles fringe players Ngog etc. and lot of guys off the wage bill. Even so if FSG cant stump up a few mill then thats pathetic. WE HAVE TO SPEND IF WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE TOP!
BUT if its Ian Ayres fault in negotiating then sack him. Really cuz he seems like a person anyway.
We lost 2 targets who we all thought wer 100% signing.
Feel sorry for Rodgers, bet he had it all panned out he must be really fuming.
He said he was going to get replacements.
We got only 2 recognised strikers.

Funny them jokes about Everton about ther transfer funds and kenwright picking up pennies But with their minimum funds they got a BETTER strike force then us. How did Jelavic and Mirrallas cost? 12m? Or less?

1. Owners need to back Rodgers financially and keep to their word.
2. Get better 'negotiaters' replace Ayre.



F5.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:15:22
right we have assaidi,sahin to come in, we hven`t got an out and out striker but we will just have to do with what we have, i hope he plays borini down the middle on sunday, we have to see whether he is going to bag us some goals,hope so
great work by all you Eds yesterday, it must have been difficult to keep up with it all
you must be as disappointed as we are but thats it now, nothing we can do

wardie

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:13:02
John Henry has released some this morning. 'The club is going to be signing on the dole, we are trying our hardest to save up some funds for next window, we might be able to sign a free agent if we're lucky.'
Unbelievable

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:12:49
Hi eds, just heard whispers that FSG are interested in selling the club, have you heard anything?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:11:52
EDS

Any chance FSG would sell the club. All of the fans have turned on them on twitter some really nasty things have been tweeted to Henry , FSG, and even his wife. {Ed002's Note - Sadly that is what some of the fans are like.}

And these people claim to be some of the "best supporters in the world".

They are in fact a disgrace to humanity, let alone LFC and, through modern media mange to drag the good name of this proud and historic club through the gutter.

The most knowledgeable, fair fans in football...... maybe once, maybe even now but I'm not so sure.

Sad.

Mrpjd

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:11:07
Make no mistake Dempsey wud have added something to the team and for just 6-7m was a steal. So where does this leave us clearly if the current team cannot keep us up there top 6ish come jan we will have players wanting to leave either in jan or summer. I had faith in the current owners that they were looking to the future but this TW Has put the writing all the wall... We will be a cup/mid table team with onlyb our fab history to fall back on and even that will start to wear thin over the years to come. I do hope the owners try to explain what they are up to I do feel sorry for BR as he is doing his best what he has ,kenny has a lot to answer for we are loseing 50percent on his signings after just one season..let's face it he was out of touch and sud never have been trusted with that sort of money..the fans that cried out for him should go take a long look in the mirror

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:10:52
cant say i wasnt disappointed last night. one striker and i think we would have being ok. demsey i am not sure on, 30 next birthday, br is building for the future. look at the good points in the summer
cleared out certin players not good enough for liverpool.
allen and sahin now in the middle of the park. thats class.
jury out on assaidi and borini, but suit br style of play.
we know how we are going to play. the system and style is clear to all.
kelly, robinson, coates, sterling and shelvey are bright prospects.
susso, sama, yesil and morgan will get their chance.
our senior players agger, skertle, renia, suarez, johnson and stevie g are still with us.
we spent 30mil, recieved 10 mil. step by step.

look at some big money buys in last few years.
liverpool
andy carrol 35mil now worth 17mil
downing 20mil now worth 7mil
hendo 16 mil now worth 8mil

chelsea
torres 50mil now worth 20mil
shevchenko 30mil sold for 10mil

man u
berbatov 32mil now worth 5 mil
anderton 23mil now worth 7 mil
de gea 20mil now worth 8mil

look at arsenal, always in top 4, never buys expensive donkeys, club not in debt, just well run. thats what i want for liverpool.
we will need good youth players coming up and some astute singings of 20 an 21 year old players before they become stars and price rockets.
br plays nice football, has a plan, now we will see if he can spot rising stars, yesil and assaidi, hopefully he can.
only 4 months to next window, if we are struggling for goals which we might then we can have another look. would dempsey have being the difference between seventh and fourth, i dont think so. also clubs know they cant hold us to ransom, we have draw a line. i run a business and i know which companies i can extract more money from.
we have progressed this window, from the mes kenny left us in. i loved kenny as a player, grew up in 80s watching him, still the king for me but in the cold light of day he will look back on his singings and think wtf. he did lift us though in jan 11 when things were bad.
its the start of a new era, lets enjoy

B O H

Sensible & realistic post. Yup I was p*ssed off last night too... But avoiding financial meltdown is the long term aim.

dd {Ed052's Note - It is mate. If the club makes a profit, then we will hit the jackpot}

Arsenal is a financial and footballing role model. I have huge amounts of respect for them.
AnfieldUSA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:10:45
Some people are getting to carried away, you sound like a load of kids who didn't get what they wanted for Christmas , I think Ian Ayre's done a fantastic job at the club, it's not as easy to sign players as people think, I for one would not spend 7M on a 29 year old with 1 year left on his contract.
Bilverstone

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:10:41
Morning ed fellow reds , I don't know all the facts and figures ,but fsg with what they spent in total to. What they have earned from Liverpool FC they must be in profit. The part I fail to understand is if there was no money availible to spend why get rid of kenny and Clarke .should have told them to trim squad and deal with what you have left.it like a false dawn .they bring in new gaffer there choice ,then tell us top 4 is a must .but the squad is weaker than last year so you don't need to be a scientist to work out . Almost the Roy situation again .thought we were over this . {Ed002's Note - You are right that you don't know about the figures - they have taken a massive financial hit.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:09:31
Bring back owen on a 1 year deal.we need another striker

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:53:57
Who in our team can play a false 9 position of needed? If we get some suspensions or injuries to our strikers then we have problems. Any chance of calling Carroll back if we need him?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:49:10
Hi Ed's is there any half decent free agents that we could sign on loan to bolster our team?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:08:46
Hi ed's & fellow reds,
I'm clutching at straws here but is the dead
Line the same for loan players as well?
If so then there is only at a push Owen
To look to:-/
Hope we all get behind B.R & the team
Coz the owners don't seem to!

Magsy

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:05:44
Has everyone forgot luos has scored two in two games and Martin skertle chipping in aswell Gerard will score a few and also borini , raheem has got tons of goals for the reserves and only need one to boost his confidence just a little and ed am I right in saying that sahin was either dortmunds top goal scorer or second top goal scorer the season he left for Madrid?? Stop lookin at the down side! We still on the same points as spuds and we have had to play city too at least give the squad a chance


Jayblair89

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:05:10
we have got to be looking at Owen! still has what it takes in the prem and we need some1 who can actually score goals now that we are left with strikers that have dry spells very often

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:04:32
What LFC should do is show some utter respect to Dempsey and Bloody give him the money they wanted to pay for him. H respected us and we ditched him

sorry Clint

Chinny Hern

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:03:46
Why do we always get the owners who dont care about football and the club. They end up being buiseman who only want profit. Look at West Ham with David Gold he's loved the club since a boy and always want best for them. They are not the ricest club but David Gold is willing to spend his money to improve the club. Why cant we get an owner like this !

 

 

01 Sep 2012 11:03:39
any chance that samed yesil will be our back up striker? {Ed019's Note - Yes }

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:57:14
Alot of negativity going around, yes from me as well. Granted we didn't get what we wanted which was a top proven goal scorer, this doesn't mean we're going to end up 10th or anything, i still believe with the current team we've got, we can go far. Im not saying top 4.

Lets think about things a little more, are we forgetting how much we all wanted Stering to be involved last year? newsflash... he's not involved he's like a new signing already...

We've got Joe Allen, what a little legend this fellas gonna be, I really think the lad will do well.

Sahin - need I say more? absolute legend, a younger version of alonso who will create goals and score!

Agger - thank god he didnt go anywhere him Skrtel and Coates are fantastic we have a strong defence!

Borini, I must admit i dont know what to think about the lad at the moment, but I really think he can end up a decent player for us - Suarez I reckon this seasn he has something to prove, I really beleive he's going to end up knocking em in left right and center, Id really love to see it anyway.

Now we've got rid of some garbage lets support the team until January and get behind BR, after all this isn't his fault and I think he can make some magic happen with the team we've got.. think of Swansea and what he did for them, who bare in mind wasnt exactly superstars yet they ended up 11th!

The ony thing that worries me is back up, we dont have much back up at all, if suarez was to get injured/banned.. then its time to worry a little.. until then... lets get behind the team we love!!

oh and Id like to say a massive thanks to all the eds, what a great job you guys do! please post this as id like to hear more views.

Don

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:56:22
Ed, do you think that FSG may have realised their mistake (surely they will when they see the lack of goals) and back Rodgers in January? Cheers pal

ToonRed {Ed002's Note - What mistake is that?}

Like letting Carroll go when u r not sure a replacement will be brought in time. Just one of many I can tell if you want to.

AJ {Ed052's Note - We had a day to bring in a replacement. That should have been enough}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:55:08
Rodgers' #LFC is a long-term vision. This is just the start, a first step. Further investment will come, probably in Jan. Ben Smith

Stick with the team or **** ***

GAM

January buys are always overpriced because they are usually panic buys. never get value in Jan. {Ed052's Note - Suarez was good value, as was Skrtel, wasn't he a Jan buy?}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:54:41
Ok, so the window was a let down. But lets look for the positives. We should have beaten Man City with the players that were already in the squad. We have lost some deadwood. This gives some of our very talented youth players a chance to step up to the plate. I get hacked off with people bitching that we havent signed experienced pro's, people seem to forget that we do have Assaidi and Sahin to come into the side. If a fat troll like Rooney can set the league alight when he was 16, why cant we give Suso, Morgan and Yesil a go.

Strangely, after being pretty glum, then pissed, then covered in kebab last night....I am feeling optimistic this morning. Or maybe it is the Costa I have just drunk holding back the hangover. Either way, I will be in the pub tomorrow shouting away watching our boys batter the Arse.

Chin up people...YNWA

nuclearboy

LOL well said!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:54:30
FSG dont have the money to build a stadium , they aint got 400m to just chuck at the problem . They aint got money for players either. John W Henry only worth approx 1 billion he aint wealthy enough to take us to the promised land. Tom Werner is only worth 400m so they can't in my eyes promise what they intended.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:53:42
First, thanks for all your work last night Eds. It was ultimately a disappointing night but you lot did some great work. So cheers.

Now just one question, who do we blame? Whose fault is it that signings that we needed haven't materialised? I know it seems stupid to try and point the blame, but I'm worried that some fans will immediately jump on BR's back, when I think this has nothing to do with him. It seems Brendan kept his side of the bargain in offloading deadwood (which I'm pleased about) and cutting 450k p/w of the wage bill. It appears to me, that Brendan has been lied to. Simple as. I struggle to believe that a manager would let a striker go out on loan, when we were thin on the ground anyway, without the promise of a replacement and investment. So I suppose my questions is, is it FSG's fault?

Also Eds, how do you think this season will pan out? I was always ready and excited to buy into this long term project idea, I think BR's great, but one injury before January and this season could be a complete disaster. If FSG aren't prepared to give BR the funds it seems he was promised, and results take a turn for the worse and Brendan ends up getting the sack maybe two years down the line, I'm going to be mightily peeved off. FSG saved us, but at the moment I'm not too happy with them.

Thanks Eds.

Jack

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:53:34
If you can call this a positive i hear from a friend of his wife Walcott is 100% to come in january he has his heart set on Liverpool

So had dempsey

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:53:13
Look we did not get the striker(s) we wanted yesterday and yes to lose out on Dempsey for by 2 mill is not only criminal it shows our current board have a small board mentality. But what is done is done. Financially we are in a much stronger position now and the wage bill I have read somewhere is 23 mill p/a after the outgoings s lets hope this is a springoard to a new stadium/Anfield extension.

The truth is none of the players who left started the Man City game and that is the performance we have to build on. The bench is very weak for striking options but we have to back the kids and give them the confidence to prove their potential. Hopefully we will keep free on injury and Suarez and Borini will keep us in the hunt until January.

We all know Brendan was seriously let down yesterday and no blame for this should be left at his door. So that being the case we have to get behind him get behind our team and stop talking about the what ifs. .

Kev the Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:51:46
This is a complete cock up how can we let big ac go on loan and bring no one in to replace him? this is a complete joke if Suarez gets injured we are in big trouble. And to top it off Southampton bought Ramirez?? WTF?? i cant believe how bad this business is!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:50:59
Thank god ED002 is back to talk sense. Wouldn't of got our hopes up unlike ED052. The only good thing from yesterday is that it shows Mr Ayre is a liability in negotations, he should go back to the commercial side where he was quite good. He certainly isn't a chief exec. At least Adam Morgan will get to show his qualities in the first team, it's time to show the talent he has. Si

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:49:13
Well another shambolic transfer deadline day. Yet again we go into the season with a lack luster front line. We know now FSG are in it for the money and not interested in showing investment. Hopefully the likes of Morgan and Pacheco will be given chances up front and i personally think we should look to bring Owen back. At least he can finish. As good as suarez is hes not a goal scorer. Jurys out on Borrini as well. Still we'll see. At least we know now Rodgers job is safe. How can anyone complain when we get rid of 4,5 or 6 playerd and got none in. Rant over

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:45:43
I think FSG/LFC urgently need to address the situation to appease the fans. A press release is a must. I'm sure they have their reasons after all they're not mugs, are they....?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:45:32
What about Raul, Saha, Owen as all(as far as i know)are free agents?

Raul and saha are taken

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:41:56
FSG wanted a sell-on fee for dempsey? What about the money that they lost[or probably will] on Carroll?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:41:04
If I was FSG I would not bank roll a £19million deal over 3 years for a player with no sell on value. That's what spurs have committed to with Dempsey. They'll be lucky to get £2mill back when he's 33.

Dempsey wanted a last move as a retirement fund, do we seriously need another one of those players! We have too many of them, one called Joe Cole!

We can recall Carrol anytime if injuries hit, we've given him what he wanted... an opportunity to play footy week-in-week-out. {Ed001's Note - we can't recall him, they paid a loan fee.}

Ed001 - seriously, we can't get him back if need be? Okay, I'm changing my opinion, we're in trouble then...

Thats £131k pw

my guess is he was prepared to stay and make fulham suffer but spurs paid too much in the end.

The 19million includes the fee spurs paid to Fulham... his wages will be between 75-80K per week.

I think we forget that a player costs more than how much we pay for them and if they're carp, then you're stuck with them on the wage bill.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:40:26
The owners did not want to spend more than 4M on Dempsey because he did not have a resale value......... Well , buying Carroll for 35M and loan out to maybe get half back... Thats resale value right there...This just dos'nt add up

T23 Hero

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:29:36
Come back Sheikh Mohammed Rashid El Maktoum save us from these american no nowts . Get the stadium underway and a squad capable of challenging for major honours and not just becoming a mid table team. The fans are owed and deserve better than the "Yanks yet again".

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:28:09
is owen our only option now?wouldnt mind a fit owen even though he joined the mancs.nd also i feel this was one of our better transfer windows barring the last day,we did get good quality in.

Yesil is better than Owen!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:28:08
Boot room blarney-Well i think liverpool will be fine ok we couldnt get a couple of players on deadline day but so what i think we have a great team albeit a smaller squad it just needs all the players to man the pumps and step up to the plate we have a fantastic defence ,a fantastic midfield and our forward line will have gerrard suarez borini we will give youh a chance which is great for our future now if we had got more players on deadline day we wouldnt be able to give our youth the chances,im excited and i think we will surprise everyone,we will get a lot more respect as we would of done it on a shoestring instead of wasting over 100 million trying for top4 and failing and getting laughed at , this will be the making of us and a bright future indeed. On another note i cant believe how fickle some of you fans are when michae owen was touted around at the end of last season some were saying i quote - i wouldnt touch with barge pole ,wash your mouth out on michael owen, hes finished i hate him ,and thats just a few now its like what about owen he available he will bang in goals well maybe he would but we should forget him if we had him back we would look 2 faced just as if we had torres back ,we are liverpool and we will be great again we should all pull the same way and show the world why we have the best fans in the world .

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:27:27
Just a thought after this debarcle.

We pay over the odds for players last term and get shafted by other teams.
As a result (amongst other excuses) They sack Kenny and his team.

They get Brendan in and he rightly targets better players even ones within budget.

yet we get none.

Look around, our cousins over the road yet again get a decent crop of signings on a shoe string.

Daniel Levy does what he does best, even if you hate his style.

Add to the list Stoke, QPR etc not big money but active signings and bag the majority of the preset targets.

There is a common denominator here can you se it.
Its called Business Accumen and Negotiating skills.

Which our board have jack...

Blame anything you like but if you cannot even seal a 17 goal a yr striker, who wants to play for us and no one else and hes a snip at 6mill, then whoever was doing the deal needs to go and go now.

Sack the deal makers and stop making scape goats out of the managers, or We may see BR quitting later in the year outta pride and frustration.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:27:16
Hi eds ive just been reading the posts to get a feeling among the supporters and its a feeling of anger and being let down. Well thats how im feeling to lets see who the blame falls on with this cockup

gee man

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:27:15
Is it possible that we can bring back AC? We are buggered otherwise, unless we play Stevie upfront!

dxbred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:26:57
Lads, its been disappointing that we haven't made futher signings but there's nothing we can do now. A positive will be that our youngsters will be given more of chance to shine.

PunkRed

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:26:33
Massively disappointed with last nite...letter Carroll go was a mistake anyway in my opinion and is now and even bigger mistake...I get the feeling that even if he scored 30 goals this year BR would still want rid..and I've got the feeling we are massively skint...

Steve in Shropshire

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:22:01
Anyone fancy coming to watch AFC Liverpool ?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:21:57
I feel for BR, he must be feeling really let down. Where are the goals coming from next season, why wouldn't we pay 6M for Dempsey and why wasn't there a plan B. I'm not talking about a rash purchase over the odds but in light of the fact they were playing hardball for Dempsey there should have been a contingency striker for when Fulham said no. Ayre leaving at 9pm last night must have left BR with steam coming out of his ears, I was fuming! Unfortunately with a paper thin squad relying on kids we will be a mid table team this season. Breaks my heart. Manx red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:21:54
I feel so sorry for clint dempsey,,this man put his whole career on the line to sign for liverpool and the club and system let him down badly

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:21:27
We pissed Al Fayed off per the Hodgeson saga and riled him & Jol by unsettling Dempsey. What did we really expect Fulham to do? Accept a stupid offer for their best player just because he wants to join us?
Amateur negotiations from an amateur board & Ayre. I hope they learn a lesson and get someone in who knows the game, is an ambassador for the club & is also respected in the football world.
We look like mugs!
Ultra red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:21:08
rodgers is as much to blame as fsg.he must have give the go ahead for kuyt maxi bellamy and carroll to leave.he should have had players nailed on to sign not leave it till the last day.what was he doing going home at 7pm he should have stayed till 11 fighting his corner with ayre.well done brendan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:39:35
want to thank eds for all their hard work over the summer, although a part of me feels a lot of it was for nothing now.

Im not sure who is responsible for this but theres been a massive balls up somewhere and I hope we find out who.

Im pretty sure Dempsey didnt want to go to spurs, but as the clock ran down and liverpool didnt up their bid, he had to go to spurs because hed burnt his bridges with fulham.

I really cant understand how we had so many potential targets and didnt sign a single player. As much as it pains me to say it, I think we "need" Michael Owen.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:38:35
I'm gutted but we can't lay down & die. Good thing we have Gerrard because he is going to have to return to his 2nd striker role, like how he played with Torres. Shelvey will fill the void he leaves in midfield with Henderson as back up. We still have Borini, Morgan & Yesil. So that's 5 strikers! Sterling gets better & better with every game & will be our go to man. Suarez is so confident in Sterling that he seems to actually pass to him with his second touch of the ball. That means a lot because Suarez rare passes the ball with out trying to make something happen at his own feet. This suggest he believes in Sterling. Ok all you youngsters, here is your chance. Let's go Assaidi. Make the most of it.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:36:25
Disappointed is an understatement, so can only imagine how Brendan Rodgers feels this morning, he got well and truly mugged. BR I believe has the clubs best interest at heart and while I have had reservations mostly due to lack of knowledge as I did not watch Swansea last season apart from when they played us, he cannot be blamed if this season falls apart in spectacular fashion as how FSG believe we can compete with only two recognised strikers is baffling. Anyway heres to BR and the squad and hoping he and they can perform miracles and give us fans plenty to cheer about. I believe we gotta stay positive even though it will be hard and get behind the team and hopefully assaidi and yesil can hit the ground running and like sterling show us that if your good enough then your old enough to be in the first team and give us a few surprises this season up top, as for our midfield well I do believe we have one of if not the best midfield in the league and we held onto our defence so maybe just maybe the season wont be quite as bad as some of the doom mongerers on here keep saying. All we need now is for the owners to learn from this windows mistakes for the future windows and inherit the same passion and belief as the manager and the majority of fans and the club will move forward and the future will be bright. Ynwa.

D15Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:31:02
I know everyone is pissed off that we didn't get anyone in yesterday, however what's done is done and as Liverpool fans we have to be positive and unite. It was clearly not Rogers fault, I'm hoping that this means the likes of NGOs, ibe, Megan, yesil, suso will get more of a chance.
Ed's could you tell me how these guys development is going and whether they are ready to go into the first team squad.

I also read a good post earlier about how much we are saving on the wage bill people forget we couldn't sustain that without being in the champions league. We aren't Chelsea or city and we have to take time to transform.

I'm still feeling positive about life right now, rememebe our performance against city! We were unlucky not to win and that was without aissadi or sahin.

Regain that positive passion and put that behind Brendan so that we can become that force we were before, we are Liverpool and we WILL rise up again!!

Kind regards

The southern red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:20:46
Well that was a transfer deadline day to forget but lets get behind the team! BR is paying the price of previous managers failure in the transfer market BUT it does give our youngster a chance to shine! Another postive is that we have reduced our wage bill significantly and bought in some good young players so please lets not be all doom and gloom!
RedRich

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:20:03
We have to of done the worst business I think it's time for ayre to go I think we're gonna bring Owen and babel back both free agents but dats really not good enough Lucas is out for 3 months we got rid of Adam spearing Carroll and eccilstone we got rid of 4 and didnt bring in 1 replacement something is seriously wrong we needed a striker and got nothing Suarez is good but misses a lot of chances borini is still young not yet proven I feel sorry for Rodgers in 2 months everyone will be looking for him to leave

Babel went to Ajax I think

Murph

Sorry to burst your bubble babel copter landed in amsterdam yesterday and never took off again

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:18:55
Liverpool have only two strikers suarez and borini and rodgers opted not to sign or funds were not provided or he has fiath on morgan. Is morgan ready for first team. If not does it means we have only two strikers.
Eds reply please.
INDIAN RED. . , {Ed002's Note - I will predict that Samed Yesil will turn out very well indeed.}

Hope so. If you don't mind ed, can you tell me the best sites for free agents (no need to search yourself) Cheers. {Ed001's Note - try www.transfermarkt.co.uk then use the search function on there to filter out all players with a contract.}

Agree Eds! Yesil looks the business

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:18:29
Arsenal: Lukas Podolski , Olivier Giroud , Santi Cazorla

Chelsea: Marko Marin,Eden Hazard, Oscar, Cesar Azpilicueta, Victor Moses

City: Jack Rodwell, Scott Sinclair ,Maicon, Matija Nastasic, Javi Garcia

Utd.: Shinji Kagawa, Nick Powell, Robin van Persie, Alexander Buttner

Spurs: Gylfi Sigurdsson, Jan Vertonghen, Emmanuel Adebayor,Mousa Dembele, Hugo Lloris, Clint Dempsey

Players in: Fabio Borin, Joe Allen, Oussama Assaidi, Nuri Sahin

Now look at the other team's signings and compare them to ours...and before anyone says that we didnt have champion's league...neither did spurs but they managed to get top notch players...and as for the fact that we didnt have money..seriously we dont even have 8 million to spend on a proven epl striker..its bemusing...On the basis of these signings do any one of you see us beating any of the above mentioned teams...
These teams were already stronger then us..but they went on strengthened themselves...we are so short of cover upfront...
Do we really have a genuine chance of getting a top four...
Our best hope is to somehow stay in the competition for top 4 till Jan and for that we have to play week in and week out like we palyed city minus the errors and improve our scoring...and then get some more decent players in...and then hopefully try and make a push for the top four...Hopefully BR can save us...
Shayan

Sahin Borini and Allen all significantly improve the team from last year.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:18:23
I know its frustrating people but a few days ago we were linked with everyone, more midfielders and most were saying we are over run in that area. We let two midfielders go and now because we are all pissed off we are shouting how thin the squad is. We should have signed a forward in my eyes but as we didn't i just hope young Morgan can show some class and develop massively this season. He seems to know where the space is and his positional sense is great, lets hope he can find the net.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:16:54
hi eds just my opinion but i think fsg realized they over spent on every player we brought in last season so they are seeing what rodgers can do with little money before they give him some real money do you think thats the case or are we really more skint than swansea

Nah fsg, are a business and they have to pay their shareholders first {Ed052's Note - FSG will want the club to sucseed, so any critisim of them is silly}

Sorry ed i have to disagree H&G wanted the club to succeed too!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:16:28
Are FSG getting ready to sell LFC, because they clearly have 'no appetite' for football.
Still nothing on the stadium.
Lack of strikers being brought in (one in, three out).

If there is a plan, it exists only in John Henry's head, because its just not working out.

Mr Henry, Werner, Ayre, please p*ss off now.

I honestly can't see Brendan Rodgers wanting to stay, as the owners have lied to him about their 'supposed ambition'.

Another long, frustrating, and disappointing season ahead.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:15:38
OK fellow Koppites, like most of you I have been left somewhat bemused by our lack of activity on Deadline Day.
I believe that we have suffered this transfer window because of the stupidity and reckless abandon with which we behaved last year and the club have adopted a 'we won't be held to ransom' attitude when enquiring about players. Rightly so in my opinion. If a player actually wants to come to our great club then he can make it happen. I would rather see the likes of Morgan/Sterling/Coady/Suso and others, get their chance at the club rather than one of the many mercenaries circling the EPL. From what I have seen so far, I absolutely believe that Brendan Rodgers IS the correct manager for Liverpool and has made some astute signings before the last minute scramble. If he believes that what we have at the club already is better than some of the overpriced stuff out there then who are we to doubt him?
In Brendan we trust, we still have a great team and lets be honest-any of the players moved on this window have all been the topic of conversation on this brilliant forum as being not bloody good enough for this club.
Just my own thoughts.
YNWA
De Red Bishop

Asking 6 million for a proven goal scorer isnt been held to ransom ? we offered 3 million for a player who scored 17 prem goals last season , when other clubs ie aston villa , spurs , rightly believed he was worth 6 to 7 million , our owners were wrong , they havnt put much fresh money into this club , false economy ! as we wont get into champions league , and will loose more revenue as a result !!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:15:26
Morning all,
Well the positives ........ only 121 days until we can buy someone!

Surely FSG must realise that Ian Ayre is not up to the job and should be replaced by someone more competent.

The savings made in wages should allow us to buy in the January window and offset the higher prices paid.

The young players that so many call for will now get time.

FSG must realise that business should not be left to the last minute, get in done early.

And best of all, I've just had another bacon sandwich and cup of tea!

The players and manager will really need the 12th man that is Anfield, so get behind them all. Protest to the owners by email, letters (does anybody have any email addresses of the owners/board members?) etc, but do not get on at the players or manager. They will be feeling as disappointed as we do.

Cheers, JLT.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:15:14
Our problem last season was a lack of goals, priority for this window a goal scorer but what do we do? sell kuyt, Bellamy, maxi and loan Carroll to replace with a 21yr old striker. Absolutely shocked by how inept we are in transfer negotiations.
Kev-lfc

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:13:33
mornin eds, even though i am dissapointed we did not sign anyone yesterday im happy we did not sign players for more then they were worth and we did not fall for wage demands ect, yes i know some fans are angry but id rarther us do that than panick buy like we did last year payin a forture on players that were not worth it and players the fans did not want ie downin, hendo carroll ect, so even though us fans are unhappy no more players came in we should be happy we did not do what we did last year and waste millions on panick buys, also a big thanks to all the eds for there hard work its really appriciated, so lets get behind the boys now and fully support them on the rest of the season YNWA!!!!!!!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:05:22
People on this site seem to be putting comments on that make them look utterly thick.

We had already spent £30 odd mil. We all knew that we had to cut the wage bill and that once that initial chunk of money went then we had to sell to buy.

Spero didnt want to be sold so we loaned him even though he has been told he has no future. That would have been £3mil, likewise with Joe Cole and the Donkey which is Andy Carroll. They both didnt want to be sold either. If these players had of gone like we asked them to then we would have had a lot of money to throw around yesterday.

As we could sell them what is the point of keeping them in the squad if they aren't going to have an effect. Carroll scored less then 14 goals since Jan 2011! Well worth £35 mil.

Im glad we didnt stump up cash dempsey. We are not the same mugs who are going to throw money at people on demand like we did with Carroll, Henderson and Downing. We could have got all these players at half the price if we had been astute.

All this Yanks out business...Shows that some football fans are well and truly personic

I don't think 6/7 million is throwing cash at Dempsey. If we miss out on 4th dare I say it 6th the owners will rue the missed Dempsey opportunity!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:04:55
Eds is it possible for fans to own there club. Was reading that we have 71mill fans so if we all just gave 2pound each in the summer we would have 142mill to spend, spuncership deals could pay for wages? Is this possible ed?
YNWA
DW {Ed001's Note - it is possible, but all of the attempts to buy have always looked to sell shares at a ridiculous price. I have always said someone just needs to set it up with shares at a reasonable price, so every fan could get involved.}

Thanks ed. Wish we could buy the club if everyone gives 10 pound to buy it even if the owners want a rediculas price that would b 71 mill. Or could each fan give money even if fans didn't own the club
YNWA
DW {Ed001's Note - we give money, every time we buy a shirt from the club shop or subscribe to the website or buy a ticket for the game. A share issue would mean a lot of shares need to be made available or price them higher. It would need to raise a hell of a lot more than £71m though!}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:04:03
Hi ed, great site.
Let's see who is responsible for the transfer fiasco.
If ayre is still in a job then it's the owners fault and they have no ambition or care about our club.
If its not there fault then ayre should be signing on the dole on Monday morning!!
What top players we have left will be looking now to leave the sinking ship at the first opertunity now!
Gutted!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:03:26
Now the dust has settled i still think we have a decent side,good enough to finish in the top four.IMO.

If things arent going that great by January i think the americans will put there hands in their pockets to help us reach that top four.Surely ?

Stevie Corby

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:00:55
Right ed's I've calmed down form last night, dose anyone no that the hell last night and who f**ked up? Cheers {Ed001's Note - we did. All us, I am afraid.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:57:53
Great site eds, only site worth looking at. Im a life long liverpool supported and couldnt believe we had nothing else in the pipeline lastnite, how could the owners not have put up the extra for dempsey, the guy is guaranteed double figures. As for the big man being loaned out with no replacement UNBELIEVEABLE. i hope he hits the ground running at westham and bags 15 goals. Good luck big man YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:12:40
There are a few strikers with Premiership experience available who are on the PFA site as out of contract. Mikael Forsell, Darius Vassel, Brett Ormerod, James Beattie, James McFadden, Emile Heskey, Ivan Klasnic as well as Michael Owen. I would suggest we sign up one or two of there on a short term contract to provide cover (and variety) until January. I'd personally take a punt on Forsell and Klasnic.

Bob

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:53:29
Eds, Please tell me that we are in with a shout of getting Michael Owen Back? Thanks
Dan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:53:16
Can a transfer become official even before either club makes comment? Could transfers fail after the close due to poor medicals?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:52:55
Somebody please tell me what happened last night? Why did we not sign anybody? Morgan, yesil and suso to get more chances now? I have never felt so bemused. We may hope BR can work miracles. Why did we not just sign mirallas before everton?
Worried red
Kyle

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:51:39
morning eds reds well to say the least dissapointed but not suprised. when i saw brs interview , talking about players going out , carroll going , adam etc , he talked about money , reducing the wage bill etc, so nobody comeing yesterday was on the cards. what i dont understand however is, if we got at least 4million for adam, 1million for carroll loan fee , ?million for spearing fee, surley we couldve got dempsey!! diamo, sturridge, walcott, maybe all of these were out of reach, or was there something else eds? great work by all of you eds congrats again and thanks for all the info and replies. godbless96 strviep62.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:51:34
Not a rumour! I just want to thank the Eds for the fantastic job you guys have done over the summer! Appreciate the initiative and the hard work. I am a huge fan of this site!

Johna

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:51:15
Screw it play samed yesil a bit see how he gets on fowler and Owen weren't much older if at all nor was Rooney so who knows?!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:48:06
Morning all, This is the day after the very disappointing night before, We are all a little shocked and angry with the club not buying any new players but we have to move on and accept the transfer window is firmly closed until January.
I honestly believe that Brendan Rogers is as angry as we the fans are but its not as if we haven't brought anyone in over the past few weeks,... We have a real gem in Joe Allen, We have Sahin who is a real talent and will hopefully fit in to the team straight away.. Then there is Assaidi and Yesil who knows we could have a goal machine in young Yesil, We have Morgan who once he realises he doesn't have be a defender,midfielder and striker could also settle down and be a very good goal getter...We have Lucas who should return from injury in 10 / 12 weeks.
For what its worth i feel we have the striker we crave for already at the club in Stevie G he can now move forward knowing his position is covered by the players i have mentioned.
We gave the Prem league champions a torrid time and but for a lapse in concentration would have won the game.
Yes we should have bought a striker but its not as bad as we think, Lets just wait and see what Brendan is going to do...Lets wait and see how the new players fit in...I honestly think we will be ok and in a few weeks be cheering our boys on as we climb the table in search of the honours we deserve.
Thats my 10p worth..
Bobby.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:47:33
Michael Owen back to the Pool.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:47:00
Omg Ed's... what a sad morning to wake up to. A teem promised to be strenghtened with depth and quality. NOT done. Do you think there will be consequenses. FSG, Ayre or Rodgers. Even thou I dont feel Rodgers i fully to blame. But he did send out Carroll before a replacement brought inn. BAD MISTAKE ! If FSG wants to make a name for themselves this is surely BAD publicity.
I dont think the First 11 that we used against City is that bad, but what now if we we get a suarez banned or injured, we are in deep water. With literally no striker as subs. If we use downing on LB and Cole injured all we have as winger left is Assaidi. This is as thin squad as it gets.
I am so gutted. how long do our beloved club have to deel with this, we are Liverpool for God sake.
We just have to cross our finger fellow Ed's and Red's and stand together with support to our club. Great job Ed's...Keep on what you doing. great respect. YNWA

T23Hero

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:46:24
Its not a complete disater we still played brilliant agaisnt hearts one bad move in the transfer window aint gonna chance that
If we just pretend the fact our replacement is injured untill january doesnt feel so bad then lol tbh i think the fact that lucas got injured again is just as big a loss to us than no replacement striker

Yes we played brilliantly against Hearts but did you notice yet again that we had problems scoring?

Puzzled {Ed052's Note - But Puzzled, we didn't really go for goals. We controlled the game, and when we had to score we did. That was extremely impressive]

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:43:54
Come on Eds, wakey wakey. who do you think we will be buying in the January window? Only joking,get some rest before all the whingers start again. much appreciated by regulars on here.
Robbie

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:43:52
Fsg only gave rodgers 20m including wages according to ben smith on bbc. That is bang out of order bout time liverpool fans joined in raising concerns im afraid 20m isnt going to change 8th to 4th position. Delusional

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:12:03
If I was messers Henry and Werner I wouldn't be showing up at anfield for a while!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:11:31
Doesn't suarez have the copa america this year? So we are pretty much stuffed for 1 month atleast if it is this year

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:10:57
Is there a way for us (the fans) to voice our transfer failings to our baseball loving owners and can we pursuade them to re sign michale owen , natural born experinced striker . {Ed002's Note - Facebook, Twitter, defacing the ground, anonymous threatening letters with words cut from the pages of magazines.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:10:45
It is all down to FSG not willing to put up the money

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:09:45
Didn't want Sturridge and definitely don't want Owen. I would have liked Dempsey but kinda support the owners stance not to be mugged off by Fulham by paying a premium just because we offended them in some way. What does pss me off is that we couldn't see this in advance and plan otherwise! I feel for Rodgers. He will have learnt an important lesson where Ayre and the owners are concerned. Time for us all to support the manager and the players we do have here. Already I can start to see the benefits of Rodgers coaching and system. Work hard on the striker side of coaching and we'll be alright. Keep the faith fellow reds. We are where we are, and hope Suarez stays fit!

The Robin

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:08:41
Pardon me if I'm wrong but FSG just can't pump their own money into the club. I always thought that owners only guaranteed loans from the bank. Man city and Chelsea are hugely in debt to the bank. I know with their owners money when the preverbial hits the fan they can pay the money owed. I agree with the business model FSG are trying to use. Will make us stronger in the long run. Any way under the new fair play rules you can only spend what you earn. Will be interesting when that rules come into force. If Uefa don't enforce them FSG will sell as they will realise they won't be able to compete with the money teams and get Liverpool back to their rightful place. But if that does happen we will look like a better proposition to be sold. Books will be balanced and hardly any debt.

Gazza {Ed002's Note - Neither MC nor Chelsea are in debt to any banks.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:08:21
We now have a mountain to climb. Not impossible, but will be daunting.

My own view is that this team should be good enough even for a top 3 challenge. Our defence was 3rd best in the league; in Skert and Dagger we have top, top CB who are as equally capable on the other end of the pitch, as with Johnson.

Our midfield's immensely improved. Lucas, Allen, Sahin and Stebie will dominate lots of midfields this season. This is traditionally an area we have always excelled.

The problem, I feel, really is Suarez and the way we tend to play, in relation to Borini.
Since towards the end 10/11 campaign, Suarez has been unbelievably profligate (i.e. 1 -1 draw Arsenal, Emirates. Will play with his head down, is hasty and lacks composure and technique largely unrefined. He seems to have lost his poise.
Though a score of great goals, he remains a bad goalscore.

Suarez is easily a 35-40 goal-a season forward. Only if he could sort his crap out. If he'd converted half, just half, of the chances he got last season, things would have turned out differently for us.

Borini. I have seen enough of this guy to know that we got ourselves a talent, a very good, natural goalscorer. Ironically, I don't see him being that good of a scorer with us because of the way we playing.

Borini, like Javier Hernandez, is of value only in and slight around the box, that's his manor. He looks for, springs upon, and finishes off anything created in that box. He gets you goals.

But the openning two league games we've seen him made redundant. Borini's completely and utterly useless on the wings. He has neither the pace nor skill to suarez past players. We'll get nothing from him there.

And people have judged (and dismissed) him based on that, wrongly in my view.
Evaluate the lad centrally and I bet you'll be impressed. He's good feet, agility and an excellent technique.

Stick him in the mid and let the more creative players (Ster, Oussa and, to an extent, Suarez) get on with it out wide.
The endless supply should see Fab banging them in for fun.

Another thing that worries me is sometimes our lack of numbers/bodies forward when we attack. For instance, just last week against City, how many times did Suarez or Fabi had to hold onto the ball longer than necessary/go it alone because of want of support?

You watch Luis get the ball, turns his man, looks up, sees no support streaming forward, and attempts to take a 20 yard run, which comes to nothing.

This isn't new. That element was there in many of our games last season.
It's so starkly different from the other top teams.
When Kagawa, Silva or Cazorla get the ball in an attacking position, immediately hordes poured forward to support and give options.
At any one time of an advanced, United, Arsenal, City would have 6 or so players in and immediately around the box.
Us it's a completey different story.

This needs to change, quickly. Our play also needs to utilise Fabi's strengths better.
Suarez MUST sort himself out. For such a brilliant attacker he's appalling dire in front of goal, save for one or two occasions.
If he can do that, I'm in no doubt we'll have a good chance at top 3.

That said, one can't help but be appalled at the spectacular cock-up we've made of the striking situation. How we made such a good job of putting ourselves in such a perilous position will be a matter of discussion throughout the campaign.

If Carroll and Dempsey both go on to have blinders at Tot and Wes and Fabi doesn't work out, with Suarez continuing being his profligate self, I foresee recriminations of biblical proportions.
The fickle mob already has the knives out. Hopefully though they don't get the indulgence.

We have a huge task on our hands chaps. We going to have to dig deep. Lady Luck has been very harsh on us in recent times. Hopefully this time round she'll be a much kinder mistress.

I know it's I ought to rather focus on my own team, but got to say what a relief it was seeing Le Gooner and Spuds failing to make any hugely important additions last night.
Moutinho, Willian and Llorente (in addition to Vertonghen, Dembele and Dempsey) would have taken them to another level.
Massive, massive relief.

Finally, I hope we get off the mark tomorrow. Borini and Suarez on the scoresheet will be great... and a clean sheet.

BARNEY

 

 

01 Sep 2012 10:07:31
Any chance of Owen joining?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:56:38
well ed's that was an anti climax im well pissed off,i heard on this site that fsg were going to spend big in january!any ideas?ynwa {Ed002's Note - None.}

I wonder when john henry and his sidekick tom [ bullsh.. ] werner are coming over , we can compete with anybody in europe blah blah , we will make do with what we have but the way we are run is a joke . ie the manager chase fiasco and now this transfer window fiasco , its embarrasing to be a liverpool supporter with these people in charge . i will support liverpool no matter what but at the moment i am fuming with the lot of them . dublin red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:55:59
If any of you lads is as gutted as I am right now and is fuming with the management please add me on facebook, we'll have the chance to talk about liverpool and football.
A True Red from Italy
p.s. You'll find me as Cesare M Bandini

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:55:52
eds, if that is IF suarez or borini gets injured, can we recall carroll from the loan as we did last year when shelvey was loaned out?

CLeO

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:55:40
Eds please, please post this! I'm the only Liverpool fan not angry, yeh I am upset that we didn't get our striker we needed! But why are all you getting on the back of the owners arnt you all forgetting they came and took our club over when we were at our lowest thanks to the previous owners! You all gave to remember it was always going to be difficult to sign players cause of how bad the club had been ran, over played players who will still at the club that needed to come of the wage bill and not forgetting the prices that the club played for last year! This club is still very much in re building process! We are far from winning the league that's the truth, 1st step is 4th and we can do that this year, there has been promising signs from the players, an font forget there is another window in January! So I suggest you should get behind the owners and the manager and support your club!! Ynwa. Please eds post this I beg you!
Cheers
Scouse 1892

Well said scouse 1892 agree totally all of people on ere expects success happen over night. FAR FROM REALITY!

ACHILLES.

Yeah another window.... Great we can sell Suarez and Agger and loan out Stevie G to bring in low cost players Andy Wilkinson, Shaun Derry and any other Center Mid as thats all the Manager seems to think we need!!!

I am with you Scouse 1892. Lets be honest , the mistake wasn't letting Clint Dempsey slip through the net, it was with letting Carroll go without a back up in place. It leaves us a bit thin ,yes, but I don't want to be buying another stop- gap like Clint (and those of you who say he will get 15 goals a season...you can't guarantee anything..look at FT last season for proof of that!). We have a young side who need to grow. So long as the owners AND the fans are patient we will reap our rewards.
KJS

Well said scouse, besides I think it's pretty disrespectfull to the players and the youngsters, and manager to write the team off because we didn't buy Dempsey?
I mean he's not exactly Messi.
RNred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:53:46
What a disaster yesterday was. WE ARE LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB but did not have the ability to sign the required players needed in order to achieve our goals set out this season. How the hell can we let Carroll go out on loan without securing the urgently needed replacements for the team and the squad. I have never seen a weaker , thread bare sqaud as we have now. The owners and Ian Ayre need to be ashamed of themselves as they have let our beloved club down massively. WE ARE LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB and SHOULD have the ability to sign BIG name players. I am calling for FSG to put up or GET OUT. By January we will be out of the league cup , Europa league and probably mid table in the league which is where we will finish at best. I wouldnt even blame BR for walking. At the end of the season i am sure some of our current players will also be thinking the same as we are lacking AMBITION in a serious way and last night has proved this. Sorry to be negative but this is the REALITY!!!

The reality is that Liverpool cannot attract big name players no more.

Even if

"YOU ARE LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB" {Ed001's Note - well that's a load of nonsense. We can attract them, it is just that we won't pay the money the selling club needs to let them join us.}

The Reality is you are not a big enough club now to sign big name players. Im not saying you wont be again but at the moment you need to rebuild the sooner you accept this the better it will be for you. I gues i will get a load of abuse for this but sorry guys & gals its true.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:51:30
Absolutely disgusted by last nights antics, theres gonna be a lot of very unhappy fans, players and of course Brendan Rodgers too, many promises broken and unless they spend big in January to gain everyones confidence i can see this being the downfall of Liverpool, as much as it pains me to say it... Southampton spent more than we have! Another miffed red.

Cheers Squeaky

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:50:30
Really disappointed with letting Dempsey get away from us when it was obvious he wanted to come and to lose him to spurs is even worse! On the up side we have a young really forward and confident thinking manager, who I believe will get this right. He will get us playing as a team and build confidence with the younger players! Luis Suarez is one of the best footballers around all he is missing is the finish if he starts to put even half of the chances he creates away we will defiantly compete for 4th! Dubred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:48:50
the most amazing thing is that we dont have a no.9
that every team has in football all over the world super crazy...........gr8 stuff the yanks or red sox losers
please sign michael owen

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:48:38
As a positive minded, fully supportive fan, I'm trying to draw positives from the transfer window rather than just focus on the disappointment of not bringing in a striker yesterday. I was hopeful of some exciting names arriving as the day unfolded, particularly Damiao, he would've shown a real statement of intent in the league this season, but if he was asking for crazy wages etc then we are better off without.
It's a chance for players like Morgan to step up possibly and get us the goals we need, he looks to be a very good player to me so let's get behind him and support him.
A massive thanks to all the Eds for all their hard work, they kept us in the loop all day with the possible ups and the eventual downs. Cheers guys and gals, it is appreciated.
I have one query for the Eds. With reports of Ayre failing in various negotiations yesterday, and FSG playing hardball over the Dempsey fee particularly, do you see Rodgers sticking with the project he's started now? He seems to be a very strong character and my worry is that if he feels he's been undermined or even lied to, he may walk. Also, do you think Ayre will keep his job? Answers very much appreciated.

The captain {Ed002's Note - Rodgers knew the constraints when he arrived. The club missed out on Dempsey. He will have to suck it up and move on.}

Ed002 - Rodgers may have known the constraints but I really think he was swung a story on Dempsey. It wasn't his fault we missed out on him. FSG and Ayre pushed there luck and they lost out and therefore left the club in a pickle. I just saying because I just hope fans don't give rodgers that much stick, sure he is just as furious as us. But like you said time to move on and back the team, we haven't even seen assaidi or sahin play yet! {Ed002's Note - It is just one player that the club missed out on. It would be like saying that teh Cheslea manager will leave because Cavani was never signed.}

Cheers for the reply Ed002
Here's to 3 points on the board tomorrow

The captain

So ed002, when Rodgers talks about getting bodies in because the squad is pretty thin. This before he shifts out another 3/4 players, all he was going to buy was Dempsey? Does that not make our squad thiner?

The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - There are 32 players listed in teh first team squad including those under 21. Not too thin.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:48:13
I hate to even think of this....but at one stage in the not too distant past, fans of Leeds and Notts Forest must have thought that they would never end up where they are now.

Watch out fellow die hard Liverpool; fans, it's happening here now.

These owners are BUSINESSMEN - they have no passion for our club, they don't bleed Liverpool, they are interested only in a balance sheet....we are heading for years of mediocrity...

Old Swan Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:36:13
Spent yesterday hoping to get someone else along with Dempsey. Finished it hoping to at least get Dempsey. Today angry and disappointed don't do it justice. FSG and Ayre have really left us in the brown stuff up to our necks. So disillusioned now where previously I backed them. At the minute I'm no longer looking forward to the season and only 2 games in. Thanks FSG.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:35:41
Just wana say I've just woke after last nites total embarrassment and feel no better, Ian ayre and Fsg have let every Liverpool fan the squad and more importantly brendan Rodgers down bigtime, everyone's mentioning the 3 players who left yest, what about Bellamy, maxi etc who weren't replaced either, whole things a joke! Gazza84

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:35:04
Here's a though! If they'd be interested that is haha
Owen Fowler n Heskey are FREE and very soon Anelka and Drogba shall be too :)

54D13R

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:35:00
You can laugh but id take owen on a year deal, any info on pacheco will he be used eds, is he considered at all

Lee {Ed001's Note - he will have to be!}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:34:09
Ok folks I think it's time to make our voice heard it's time for fsg to move on and let us compete with united city spurs and Chelsea enough is enough it's the way football is now money talks and money is something we don't have as usual, how on earth can we sign the players that will improve us when the owners won't invest I think it is time now not next year but now for fsg and Ian Ayer to pack up and sell up so we can move on, it's going to be hard to hold on to the few great players we have when our owners don't have ambition,
I thank them for saving our club but they have too go plaese sell up and take Ian Ayer with you let's make our voice heard.

Cheers
Pauric

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:33:54
I feel as let down as everybody else on here especially with not getting a proven goal scorer in. Carroll Going doesnt bother me as sterling/Morgan should easily outscore his tally from last year.

We all called for spearing/Adam to go week after week so we got our wish there.

How would we all be feeling if it was agger/skrtel/suarez that had gone and we had the money to bring in replacements FFs look at qpr 12 players in what is that all about I'd rather have what we've got that no other team has...... The best supporters in the world

'Fire in your belly comes from pride and passion in wearing the red shirt. We don't need to motivate players because each of them is responsible for the performance of the team as a whole. The status of Liverpool's players keeps them motivated.'

Stewyb

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:33:34
Trying to describe last nights events? You know when you wake up with the mother of all hangovers after a mad house party and your trying to piece all the forgotten bits together, only to suddenly realise that you caught your best mate shagging your girlfriend?
Well, that would put it in a nutshell for me!

I cant believe we have been left in this situation. We have put massive pressure on young Morgan and the other young guy signed from Germany. There is just no way we can have 2 recognised Forwards, and that is before we factor in injuries. Make shift forwards, square pegs into round holes. More games than last year playing in the Europa Cup.

Massive saving on wages with Carroll, Aqua, Adam, Kuyt, Maxi, Ecclestone, Pacheco, Spearing etc shipped out, with Borini, Allen, Assadi only brought in? £300,000 a week saving in wages? £15 million a year? And yet £2 million could not be found even for Dempsey?

I will always cheer the players on the pitch! Its in my nature, as it should for every Liverpool fan and its not the players fault. Gerrard and Carra must be bewildered this morning. Yet i cant say the same for B Rodgers or Fsg. Has Rodgers been shafted or did he know how this would pan out. I dont know so i cant excuse him from any blame.

If you dont invest in this league every year, you go backwards. These are the facts. We have been bent over a barrel this morning and shafted by Fsg.

The Irish Rover {Ed001's Note - would you take the job knowing you were going to lose all those players and not replace them? There is no way he would. It would be like being invited into the UFC but being told you have to have your arms tied behind your back while your opponent has his free to use.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:32:38
what about Ivan Klasnić....worth a punt

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:31:58
At least this forces us to use are youngsters. Morgan Or the German lad could be the next best strikers. How was Morgan the other night? I didn't catch the game. {Ed001's Note - he tried too hard the other night, if he can relax a bit and just play his game, I have faith in him to be a good player.}

Morgan made Suarez's blood boil basically.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:31:42
As a fan of both Liverpool and also the Red Sox, I've seen FSG make both teams uncompetitive whilst they claim they have the highest standards for the teams. The Red Sox "dumped" at least 4 major players this season and replaced them with youth players...and they are now well out of contenntion...maybe for next year too.

Sound familiar?

Jon

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:27:46
How can we trust the owners after last nights fiasco. " We will back Brendan". Was FSGs Comments After Signing him . I as a red, Since the 70s, Feel that they have let the Manager, And us paying fans down the river. No Funds, No nearer a stadium.....Anyone else feel like a H&G Coming on.......Fuming red....!! TJ.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:48:02
I hate to even think of this....but at one stage in the not too distant past, fans of Leeds and Notts Forest must have thought that they would never end up where they are now.

Watch out fellow die hard Liverpool; fans, it's happening here now.

These owners are BUSINESSMEN - they have no passion for our club, they don't bleed Liverpool, they are interested only in a balance sheet....we are heading for years of mediocrity...

Old Swan Red

As a Forest fan when we used to lock horns in the late 70's and in the 80's I never thought you see us in the 3rd tier of English football. But it happened

I can't see this happening to Liverpool, you are and always have been a much bigger club with a much bigger infrastructure and you are still a big international brand.

I do think the days of Liverpool being a top club again could be some way off without some Man City type of investment.

Good luck though and I hope to see you in the PL soon.

PS

Its Nottingham Forest, never Notts Forest. Thank you.

Ok mate were in a bad situation no that bad

RED BIRD

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:46:14
Hi Ed's, currently out of the country and wondering if you could help me with a few things?
Did LFTtv run a live programme from melwood last night?
And whats the news comming out of the club this morning mate? although I should imagine it's quite quiet.
RNred {Ed002's Note - It will be business as usual today. The club missed out on Dempsey and now it is time to move on.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:45:44
The yonks are hopping mad at Cole for rejecting the move to Kenwrights's mob.
Sure 443k per week off the wage bill seems like a lot, but losing Cole would have been the big shiny cherry on the top for the FSG gang.

Rodgers proving a very useful puppet, a certain taciturn Scotcher who used to manage LFC would never have allowed this fire sale

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:45:40
What time scale would ED 02 put on FSG selling LFC on? {Ed002's Note - Much will depend on qualification for the Champions League. If there is no qualification again this season, the club will be in a poor position financially and it will be difficult to see it becoming self-funding in even the medium term. So it is tough to say when they may look to move on from the investment.}

So ed2 are you saying if we dont make CL we could be in serious trouble?

majestic69 {Ed002's Note - The CL is the number one target. Considerably more income than from the EL and additional money from Standard Chartered.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:43:58
what an awful day yesterday!!

liverpool squad is now weaker

teams like west brom, sunderland, fulham, everton newcastle....have now surpassed our squads in depth and firepower

we dont have a plan B...and we all know most teams will sit back and we dont have the players upfront to change it if suarez didnt score...and we dont have the players upfront to change the tactic if we need a last minute goal..e.g pumping the ball in..with 5ft4 players wont work.

and lastly owners who dont understand the premiership...it takes youth and money ...simple..we needed forwards...how else can we explain it


i want lfc to do well..i really do...but we cant score bloody goals.........and getting rid of caroll is just the dumbest thing ive seen.... i cant see us finishing any higher than 9th or 10th..im being real here

red lobster

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:43:50
Ian Ayre & FSG OUT OUT OUT!!
As a loyal supporter for 30 years I think its time they both went. What happened over the last few days has been nothing short of asset stripping and mis-management by Ayre and FSG.
They have lied to us.
Simple as that.
Red4Life72

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:42:33
My friends, don't blame the owners,as much as he is king the blame goes to Kenny , he wasted so much money last year, Brendan is picking up the pieces, we have reportedly saved £20m plus in wages over the next year with what we have shipped out, and I agree with the players he has shipped out,it's about stabilising the club on a sound financial basis, let's get behind Brendan and the team .

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:41:33
Goals scored last season prem: 47
Bellamy = 6
Andy Carroll = 4
Maxi Rodriguez = 4
Dirk Kuyt = 2
Charlie Adam = 2
Goals scored minus the players that have left: 29

Did we desperately need a striker last season.yes!! Was that the most important position to fill this season..YES.

I cannot see the workings of not putting in a half decent offer for a striker/ forward.

I really hope the new players we have got the best and hope they find their shooting boots.

Darwin lfc

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:40:20
Shocking isn't he word to describe how I feel about yesterday. We have let Carroll, Kuyt and Bellamy all leave and have not replaced them. Ian Ayre is a joke the man needs to go! He is never CEO materal the man is a tramp, as for FSG I am honestly dissopointed by them this is starting to look like the H&G era all over again. Sorry to say this but any hope of top four in my eyes has well and truly gone now folks I just don't see where the goals are going to come from this season. Brendan you made a bad choice to join LFC we are pottless and are starting to look the laughing stock of the EPL.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:40:17
"I need a minimum of three strikers. Once the window shuts, that is it until January. I have got (Luis) Suarez, Fabio Borini, and Andy Carroll. I would need to be a nutcase even to consider at this moment to let Carroll go out."

....rodgers must be fuming with the owners!

jg {Ed002's Note - The club were keen to sell Carroll all summer but could not find a buyer will to pay an acceptable fee. The only real issue was that a deal was not done for Dempsey.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:38:06
Is there anychance we could apply for an emergency transfer? Like you can for goalkeepers. Only for a striker. Is the loan window definitely shut too?
I can't believe this, how are we going to compete.
Tough times ahead.
Kyle {Ed002's Note - It is closed.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:37:00
Brendan is shocked, join the bloody queue mate. Not being able to sign a new striker is basically saying, oh sorry but we give up. What a joke, Ayres better walk because of this. 4th place my a**e, lucky to get 8th

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:36:45
something needs to be done about ian ayre,we don't need people like him at our club...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:36:42
I must admit I got a bit bitter and twisted last night window shut but no business done, this morning I'm more optimistic in that we have no choice now but to go with youth and out of all this might come something good, and to say no business done is not strictly true, allen has been terrific, borini looks great with his movement, sahin has joined - even tho' its only for the season lets get the most out of him, assaidi and yesmil might get their chances sooner rather than later and may yet prove to be astute buys, we could at least give adam morgan a good run once he gets used to the prem we might not need to buy in jan, come on you young guns go for it, chins up guys we are lfc.
stevieH

Your wrong mate , we have no goals in this team , we are in real danger , we have lost players who scored us goals , dirk , maxi , bellers , carroll , wake up to the fact we will be in bottom half of the league , hovering over the doomsday senario , relagation , teams that dont score , dont win games , the teams that win the least games get relegated !! its that serious mate

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:27:00
To all the posters that maintain we shouldn't be so harsh about FSG and their financial commitment to the club. Yes, I kind of agree but most of us are not angry at that we are angry that they have put their trust in a complete tool like Ayre who has now proven himself to be incapable of the basic intricacies of the Managing Director position at the club. Why would you believe that someone without former experience of negotiating new and existing player contracts could do it? What's worse is that we'll never hear an answer to our questions, we have become insignificant in the whole scheme of things. I'm not one of those fans with unrealistic beliefs about our great club BUT to miss out on Dempsey?? Seriously?? That's INCOMPETENCE where all the capitals are justified ;)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:26:04
I think we need to be positive. If the manager gets us playing the way Swansea have, we can beat anyone on our day. Certain players are playing to keep their job next season so they will up their game. Assaidi, sahin, yesil and sterling will be stars this season. Borini will start scoring soon, we have already a draw against champions so it on and up from now on. BR will get us to where we need to be without breaking the bank.
The dark red.

Your wrong! we cant score goals , we have only 2 strikers , we are playing in europe this year , more games , we lost players that score us goals , 11 players out only 5 in , weaker squad , fewer goals scorers , its going to be awfull season , hovering over relegation !!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:25:10
Hi Fellow Liverpool Family

The dust is settling and the sun is rising, just getting over the events of last night (excellent Eds, by the way).
Liverpool are not a local club, not an English club, nor a European club, they are a Global club and that comes with a great deal of responsibility to its supporters from all over the world. When the club manager goes on TV and states to the media of the world he is expecting new players, and even weakens his team in the proviso this happens the people at the top have a responsibility to achieve that goal, whatever.
When supporters all over the world are told that the club is so financially sound that it can compete with the big boys and are able to reach the top 4 of the league and then as we have seen last night, cannot muster up an extra couple of million to secure a signing the manager has requested, it makes us all believe that the owners are not being totally truthful AND THAT THEY ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED with this great club.

If we are feeling let down this morning, take a few moments to for the likes of Suarez, Skirtle, Agger, Reina, Gerrard, the manager to name a few. All these have recently signed long term contracts with the club on the proviso that Liverpool would be fighting for the top 4, last time this happened our most prolific goal scorer of the past 20 years was lied to and rightly left.

We all seem to be blaming Daglish and Comolli, however the same people at the top signed the cheques for these players showing how inept they are in football management.

The ramifications of last night could be massive, and more detrimental than losing and extra million on a player who is capable of scoring 10 - 15 goals a season. January may be a very destructive window for us, if we dont do well in the next few months and players, rightly so force moves out of the club. Sometimes in business you have to speculate to accumulate, and show your intent to move forward, it will be very interesting how the club play down the debacle of the past few days as most of the Liverpool family and the outside world see us as a club with little direction with inept inexperienced management and god forbid a club that could be in total financial crisis once more!!!!


A sad worried Evered

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:23:41
We have cut our wage bill massively this window which is much more important than most people here think. Aquilani, Kuyt, Maxi, Bellamy and Carroll were all on far too much money. I would rather see us not sign anyone than have to go through the pain of seeing another highly paid £20m+ signing bottle it over the next 12 months. Allen and Sahin are much better in midfield than Adam, Spearing and Aquilani so our midfield is better. Andy Carroll, as painful as it is to accept is not going to score the goals we need, he's a square peg in a round hole at Liverpool. We play with one central striker, so Borini and Suarez can cover that role. Plenty of teams only have 1 or 2 recognised strikers. Yesil and Morgan can fit in when/if needed. Sterling, Downing, Henderson, Pacheco, Suarez, Gerrard, Borini and Assaidi can all play as wide attacking midfileders or wingers. We have enough cover. The important thing is we saved a huge amount on wasted wages this window, still have plently of cover and just because we didn't sign anyone for £35m on deadline day is not a bad thing given our previous deadline day signings. Why is it always doom and gloom. No signing is better than wasted millions on inflated deadline day prices.

MarkB.

Rubbish , you got no clue mate , we wont score goals , therefore we wont win games , and we will be bottom half of league , stop defending the owners , who havnt put any fresh money into this club , they havnt invested in new players to get us into champ league , they havnt sorted out our stadium either , they are running this club on the cheap , we are in trouble ,

Sorry most teams have atleast 3 strikers if not 4.Ive been a fan for over forty years and can not remember a time when we were so weak in attack i just hope we make it to january in a decent position this is shaping up to be a very difficult season
TED

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:22:52
well we've one option left ....michael owen .........its better than nothing though

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:22:17
owen til jan?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:22:13
I've been trying overnight to look at this in the most favourable light, difficult though that is.
The owners desperately want the business (because that is what it is - don't get dewy-eyed) to be successful and therefore the finances needed to be brought under control. That being the case they were determined not to overpay (as per our last managerial regime) on fees and wages. Yes it has backfired big-time and I am as bitterly disappointed as the next person.
But two things REALLY stick in my throat over this.
(1) Brendan Rodgers has been well and truly screwed,doesn't matter whether it was the ineptness of Ayre rather than a deliberate ploy. (2) How Dempsey was hung out to dry...it was clear that it was 'made known to the player' that we wanted him.He publicly turned Villa down stating that he wanted to come to us.He refused to play for Fulham because he wanted away (and we might all have opinions on that !) and then,and then.......we refuse to meet Fulham's terms and he has to sign for someone quickly since he had obviously got no way back at Fulham. I think the way our behaviour towards Dempsey has worked out has been disgraceful, if not disgusting. Will ANY future player trust Liverpool f c?

Puzzled

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:20:18
Well appears Liverpool are upto their usual tricks the fail is strong in your club

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:18:04
ok, its the morning after and we are all disappointed, but, lets put some perspective on this. We removed 24 million from the wage bill, we made good signings prior to deadline day, we have a great manager, we gave city the hardest game they've had in a long time, people say we only have 2 strikers, but what about Adam Morgan? one piece missing, OWEN. Sign him up, pay as you play, great cover, point to prove and free, if FSG get this done we have the cover needed to compete.
Its not ideal, certainly not most of our first choices, but, Owen will score goals, ok maybe only 10-15 but that could be the difference between 4th and 6th. Some come on doom mongers chin up, we'll be giving arsenal a spanking tomorrow then you'll all be cheering. YNWA
Andy H

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:17:50
Just to point out, we are in the same boat as Chelsea, who only have Torres and Sturridge as their recognised strikers.

While the last day has obviously been a disappointment hopefully the extra cash from wages saved yesterday will help us in January and in the Long term.

Im just disappointed we couldn't get Damaio


JTR

We are also in the same position as Tottenham and Newcastle, who only have 2 recognised strikers.

JTR

Chelsea also have a much stronger team with numerous players that can chip in significantly with goals unlike us who have been finding goals hard to come by for some time
TED

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:17:12
I Have watched the Reds Since the 70s, And cannot believe the way our club is being run,. Andy Carroll was stating he wanted to fight for his place, Given that we only have Borini, And Suarez. And after the window, That is what we still have. I am speechless....And also feel totally let down by the owners YET AGAIN......!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:15:38
Morning eds, OMG what a night last night was, cant believe what a mess we appear to have made of conducting business!
The only possible reason that I can think of for slashing the wage bill would be if we are about to start work on a new stadium or refurbish Anfield.
Have any of the eds heard anything regarding a stadium announcement?

Thanks for all the hard work you do.

David.

A new stadium will be empty with the s**t owners we have.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:15:37
Rodgers is just a full on joke! Got no hope for this season

FSG are a joke too

It ain't Rogers though is it ,you could tell in his press conference he was expecting players in ,he has been let down by the owners Ian ayre,he wouldn't have let caroll go if he thought no one was coming in,we need new owners who can compete cause this is a joke,AND WHERES THE STADIUM PLANS, they no different to h n g

Its not his fault. At least understand the roles and responsibilities before you post. Ian ayre must take responsibility, but I would love to know his directive, it may not have been his fault after all. We have spent a lot more than we pulled in so don't be too harsh. They have to resolve the mess dalglish left the club in also.
REDditch

Its NOT Rodgers. We need to back him more than anyone.

Red G

Can't blame Rodgers for this he was let down, he knew and publicly stated we needed more players but club wouldn't and had no intention of spending a penny!

It's not Rodger's fault. It's the fault of the owners and Ian Ayre. RED LENIN

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:13:26
I thought I'd do a squad assessment to take my mind of things a little.

As it stands bar our attack we're in a very strong position. Pepe seems to be fairly sharp again, bar that howler.

The defence is strong. Agger and Skrtel thankfully stayed and are one of the best partnerships in the league. Johnson looks in good form and seems to have become a stronger defender in the last year, to add to his good attributes going forward. Enrique can't be any worse than he's been in recent months, if he finds that early last season form then we've got one of the best left backs in the league. If not then Downing may well work in that position, with less pressure to male things happen in the final third. We've got great back up provided by Coates, Kelly and Carra with Robinson looking quality for his age.

Our midfield now is much stronger too. Gerrard is fully fit and looks like he'll relish under BR, if used sensibly. He's learning how to slow down a little and make impacts sensibly rather than bombing around all game. Lucas out is a blow I'm a massive fan, which you'll know if you've read my posts. But for the first time since Masch we have someone to fill that void, in Joe Allen. He's a little terrier, with good upper body strenght and a great engine. He has truly wonderful passing, of all varieties and he'll be vital to our season. Sahin is also a quality addition, who if fit can be one of the best deep lying playmakers in Europe and I hope he really shines for us.

Shelvey and Henderson are a year older and looking better all the time. Shelvey is still a little erratic at times, but consistency should come. Henderson is a steady reliable player, but his main positive is his ability to pick a through ball. Twice against Hearts when he was central, he picked Suarez out with two perfect through balls and I think that's one of the strongest parts of his game. Given our recent departures I wouldn't rule out Coady and Suso appearing in the squad.

Up top is where we have issues. Suarez can be a wonderful playmaker and score spectacular goals, but his attitude may still let him down. He needs to keep focus and find his scoring touch fast. From his time in Holland we know he can score plenty, he gets into the same positions in the EPL, but it's just not happening. The optimist in me feels it'll happen, quite frankly it has to, but we'll see. Borini for me has traits of a quality striker. His positioning is very good, he plays very well of the last defender and will make opportunities. He just needs to take them and his confidence to his pverall game will rise. Asaidi is a shrewd signing, he's an unknown quantity, but from what I've seen an exciting prospect. Seem to have good skill and ball control, plus an end product, so let's hope he settles quickly. After those three though we're stumped really and relying on youth.

Sterling is a wonderful prospect, but he's not ready to play every week. We don't want to be Arsenal, where we're unintentionally injuring young players due to overuse. When players are young they're likely to blow hot and cold at times and we don't want his confidence to drop of he struggles. However he does have that rare quality, a combination of pace and composure, something Lennon and Walcott still struggle to master. He can lift the crown, like Suarez in one mesmerising run and i see fans loving him no matter what. He's our most exciting prospect since Gerrard and honestly has potential to be a top class player for club and country, sooner rather than later.

We've also now got to rely on Morgan and N'goo perhaps. I dot think either are ready, but they both know how to score and perhaps we'll be surprised by one of them.

That last section highlights our struggles this season. We may be forced to rely on unproven players (well we're in Borini and Asaidi) and push youth unlike in recent years. Perhaps it'll bring the best out of players, or perhaps confidence will drop and they'll struggle.

It may be a difficult time for BR, the fans and players alike. Or just maybe things will click, players will stand up and be counted and we'll produce results until January, when we have to reinforce.

Papa G

Nice post papa

Tel 1949

Sense at last.
REDditch

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:12:22
do you think yesil n Morgan are now 3rd n 4th in line for 1st team playing time? Maybe ngoo will get some games in cup competitions ? Time too keep our fingers crossed n hope no one who plays for Liverpool gets injured or there maybe trouble ahead . feel sorry for BR this morning has too face the press after being well n truly let down. anyways lets hope the young lads take there chances and save us millions bout time youth gets a chance !

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:12:17
Deadline dealings seem to be a calamity of errors and i am sure BR among others feel badly let down.
I fail to see why we would let AC leave before we secured another forward however on a positive note we managed to keep some top players that were rumoured to be leaving (Pepe Reine, L.Suarez D.Agger) and we brought in a few that look promising especially J.Allen and Sahin IMO.
So all in all i think we have been left short in some positions but hopefully can be dealt with until Jan then we can strengthen again.
P.S. A quick thanks to eds on this site for keeping us grounded during transfer frenzy.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:12:03
Who would u want for 7m dempsey now or probably the next falcao or some other young striker with great potential in january

But why would we assume we will get ANYONE in January? We all thought there were more incomings this window,including the manager if you witnessed his demeanour at the last press conference.

Puzzled {Ed052's Note - We will get players in January, dont worry yet!! When there is one hour left in the January window, then panic}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:10:59
ed , has pacheco left as well or is he still here ?
any other free agents we could possibly sign apart from Owen ? {Ed002's Note - Pacheco is still with the club. There are plenty of free agents but you might be clutching at straws here.}

Hopefully he is clutching at straws. I'd rather we faced relegation than sign that cheap, turncoat selfish little man. RED LENIN

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:10:02
Hey Ed's,

Now that the dust is settling on a frustrating night. Do we know how much was offered to Fulham? Reports suggest that Adam went for £5m and we got £1.5m from the Carroll loan, with Aston Villa offering £5m + £2m add ons and Spurs eventiually signing him for £6m, am I right in thinking that we didn't offer up to the £6.5m available to get him?

Did Fulham want more from us than they'd accepted from AV and later accepted from Spurs?

If not I think we have insulted Dempsey who was clearly holding out for us, and given one of our top 4 rivals a helping hand in getting there.

Great work last night

Warrington Red {Ed002's Note - I don't know the detail. But it is history now.}

There is just no excuse for not getting Dempsey he was left with no option but to join spurs unbelievable
avoo

ED002 yes it is history now, but is it also evidence as to how Liverpool f c are going to treat potential new players? I say this as someone who has been supportive of the new owners but this behaviour is hard to defend

Puzzled {Ed002's Note - Liverpool missed out on one player - it is no big deal.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:08:35
We may have the worst strike force in the league now!! Unbelievable Let's hope our midfield chip in with 40 goals or more

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:56:50
Everyone should back Rodgers still.
He tryed desperate to sell the dead wait! as u lot call them.
To generate funds. The owners are stupid. I don't think u should believe wat they say. Liverpool is a business for them nothing more! Liverpool needs a owner who cares for the club... Someone who wants to give his last dime to help us. Hopefully one day that will happen.

Or hopefully some billionaire comes along.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:56:33
Thank you FSG for showing us your cards.... You can now leave please. Take Ian Ayre with you. Ill get the taxi fare.... you have just potentially blown millions by notting us players to get us into the champions league.... Great cheers for that...

Lets hope BR can pull a rabbit out of the hat and perform a near miracle. I hope the youngsters now get a chance.

Slow poke

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:06:12
You know why we keep losing to the 'lower' sides like Swansea, Wigan Everton, is they have bigger and better squads then us.

Eds I know Owen is Free, but any news if FSG will pay for a cab to pick him up?

Taxi fare would be too much for them!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:04:22
Is Br the type of manager who will voice his opinion to FSG Ed's?

The harsh truth is we were outspent by a club in over £400m worth of debt and had to float on the stock exchange to bring money in!

How are we expected to make up the most amount (8th last season) yet spend the least (£27.8m) it's just not possible when the likes of Chelsea who only finished 2 places above us last season ate spending £80m. Now obviously I'm not calling forus to spend that much but there's only so much you can trim the wage bill before making your squad worse.

RedsMatt {Ed002's Note - You perhaps need to understand what managed debt is and what the difference is in income between the two businesses.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:03:30
Who is at fault here? Fsg for not stumping up? Ayres for not getting it done? Rodgers for getting rid of Carroll without a replacement? Kenny and Commoli for squandering cash?
I do feel sorry for br but now he knows what he is up against. Hope Pacheco and Morgan take there chance and who knows if cole stays fit he may stand up and be counted... That's if he can actually stand up without his hamstrings going.
FowlerisGod

 

 

01 Sep 2012 09:02:48
Now that the window has closed and our supposed attacking targets have not been acquired who is going to score our goals? God help the Anfield woodwork this season!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:59:05
I understand (including myself) at the frustration of last night. But without FSG stepping in when they did where would will be now? They splashed the cashed with Kenny last year so I can understand a more business like approach now.
Hopefully we will remain injury free and look back at the market in January.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:57:39
People on here have been moaning for years that the young kids haven't been given any chances now you are all moaning we haven't spent millions on new players. Maybe Sterling, Morgan and Pacheco have saved us 30 million. Lets not forget Allen, Surhn, Yesti and the Morrocan fella. Not saying we don't need another striker but January is only 4 months away

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:56:39
Once again it comes to light, we need to sell before we buy. FSG have had their fingers burnt in the past with KK's and Comoli's extravagance.

Brendan should come out and tell us how it is, getting Cole, Carroll off our books is more difficult than we thought and other clubs are holding us to ransom.

Come Jan or next summer these free loaders should be gone and fresh faces will arrive, we just need to pick the right faces and not some of those that KK, comoli picked. Brendan will see to this, give him a chance his hands were tied with lack of available funds.

We are not going to have much success overnight but in in a years time we will be a stronger team with a new outlook and a stronger more experienced squad.

Big Bill

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:43:13
i believe the club for sale and we streamling our out goings to make us look more profitable to buyers.

I hate to slate FSG because of everythin they did, but they've totally screwed us now. Lets hope the excuse is they are sellin because i dont think much else will fly with every fan who could see we needed carroll or a replacement.

Carb

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:42:11
FSG are an absolute joke. We were wrong to think that one bunch of yanks would be any better than another bunch of yanks. All they want to do is make a fast buck. Leaving us with two strikers, neither of which know where the back of the net is, is just suicidal. Our club will never move on with these persons at the helm. I have supported lpool for 35 years and have never felt so angry as I do today. Brendan Rodgers has been hung out to dry. How the hell are we going to make top six, let alone top four. Absolute disgrace.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:42:05
Borini is an Italian international footballer who was in the Euro 2012 squad that got to the Euro final in the summer. He's a good player. Give the lad some respect.

Who isnt giving the lad respect the fact is hes a young player with potential but we need more than him and suarez to improve on last season

These are the players that BR said will excite us . So when your ready

He also plays for lfc and last week hit the post from 4yards out with an open goal .so no don't give him a break

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:42:02
Up until yestersday I was willing to give our owners the benifit of doubt but after that underhanded shafting of Brendan I really hope they just stick the forsale sign over the gates and crawl back under their rock! Really struggling to express how gutted I am and I'm sure 99% fans r the same.

It's 1 thing giving kids chance to progress in cups but this year really is make or break for us as a club if we don't challenge guenuinely for top 4 we will never be able to attract top players wether we have money or not! What a dark time for our great club betrayed again by yanks, jft96

L-G

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:38:58
Eds I'm devastated by yesterdays debacle, and I'm at the point where I believe FSG are no better than the Texans. OK they are more careful with the clubs funding and spending, but to the point where we look like a bunch of non acheiving c*n*s !
Carroll gone, when I think everybody thought he was about to have his best period for the club, Dempsey gone to Spurs after our ridiculous pursuit over the summer, where we clearly p*ss*d Fulham right off and we got punished for it last night, another season without a decent right winger ( Assaidi is s*i*e ) and a strikeforce of Suarez and Borini who will do well to score 15 goals between them all season. ( Love Suarez, but he needs an out and out striker with him) People are now saying get Owen in which is a joke and if he signs thats it for me Eds.
Thanks for your brilliant site over the last few months, and maybe we will get some extra funding off the skint yanks in Jan.
Feel sorry for BR, keep your chin up Brendan and the fans are right behind you .

YOZLFC

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:38:31
hi eds with us losing out on dempsey and getting rid of carroll (very bad mistake in my opinion) do you think we could offer owen a return to the club? no1 would want this but we need someone who can put the ball in the net and lets face it if suarez gets injured or another lengthy ban borini doesnt look as if he could cope on his own just yet {Ed002's Note - I would doubt it.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:38:09
Eds we have made a late late late move to sign Ryan babel. U heard this? {Ed002's Note - He signed for Ajax.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:37:14
To all who still have faith in fsg wake up! We are going backwards under them. If our main focus is cost cutting then we will never catch up. We will struggle for goals and be an even less attractive destination next summer and yet again fsg get us in the media glare for all the wrong reasons. We look a real mess a joke and weak. We conduct our business with no class! Fsg out

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:36:51
I know we're all dissappointed with the failures of last night, but we have to stay positive. The window has been good for us. We've lowered the wage bill, which was an albatros around our necks for some time and it really restricted our options.

We've brought in some quality players in sahin, assuidi, this turkish/german striker and dont forget Allan.

Also the lack of incomings mean that youth players will feel they have a real shot at getting some first team action so will give 110% in training which in itself will push all the other players to work harder.

Now you cant have everything your own way, we just have to accept that this window the owners got what they wanted instead of the manager getting everything he wanted.

Come on lads lets get behind the boys for Arsenal!!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:35:11
Mickey Quinn is talking anti Brendan rubbish this morning on . Unbelievable in my view. So outdated in his views. Liverpool and Brendan are unbelievably and surprisingly being defended by mark Saggers usually a Liverpool hater.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:33:41
Morning Eds, LFC fans. I must confess to being utterly bemused at the actions of the club in the last few days, why on earth we have thought it a good idea to weaken our squad after a horrendous season is beyond me. What do you think the fall out will be Eds? With the manager, fans etc. If any of course. We need and should be playing champions league football, let's hope our injuries are kept to a minimum!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:33:36
what kind of formation do you expect us to play now that our strike force is so limited.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:33:13
One more out in LFC only fee is for a taxi... Ian Ayre pack your bags

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:23:59
Is it true that the loan transfer window stays open longer? or have i made that up?

still a possiblilty of sturridge?

Scottish red {Ed002's Note - Not for EPL clubs.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:19:36
It's not that we don't have faith it's the we all know what we're gonna be saying through this season "squads good but need some one to finish games off by putting goals in" same as last year. it was the one area major changes were needed and we still didn't do anything. If we get an injury up front now, were done for. Same old story with lfc. Never trusted ayre to be honest and now the owners are gonna find it tuff as the fans that were supporting them are finding hard to defend them. There is alot fans out there against these new owners and they have probably tripled in size now. Not the sort of thing we need now as we enter a new season, still awaiting a goal in open play.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:32:29
Hello Ed(s) and reds..
I would really appreciate it if you could put up a list of free agents, I know Owen is still free, but are there any other options that we may be interested in the attacking department?
Cheers
RedSox69 {Ed002's Note - We don't have the time right now.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:31:53
Far far too negative people. Was Dempsey really our saviour? Really? We were being held to ransom by Fulham just like Newcastle in Jan 2011.

It's not missing Dempsey ,it about players going and not being replaced

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:30:37
disaster last night we need a proven striker, if suarez was to get injured what would we do literally we have lnowone thats why we have to sign michael owen, we have no other option

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:26:14
Hi eds with no strikers coming in does that mean the likes of Morgan,Pacheco and that new kid getting starts? {Ed002's Note - Morgan will get chances.}

He is a kid and not ready yet. We are well short

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:25:42
this isnt the end of the world people. we have a decent squad. we didnt need dempsey anyway, not an out an out striker, our midfield and wingers are good. all we need is a number 9, which we might already have in adam morgan given half a chance. i for one am glad to see a lot of fringe players who arnt quite good enough of the wage bill, which needed doing anyway. and as for top 4, its possible arsenal are in the same boat as us, they cant get the ball in the net and spurs just wont be good enough with villas boas in charge! so lets get behind the team and hope for a number 9 in jan.
thanks
ozziboy

Mate we will be lucky to finish 9th

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:24:28
Hi eds yesterday was searching huntelaar to see if Lfc had made a bid for him and Wikipedia came up and said " Klass Jan Huntelaar is a prolific striker who plays for Liverpool" what do you think happened there eds?

P.s I'm telling the truth it really did say that {Ed002's Note - It will be kids vandalising it.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:23:14
Hi eds, any truth in the rumours that Fulham wanted more money from Liverpool than what they accepted from Villa and spurs, or is it the truth in Fulhams claims Liverpool offered only 3 million for Dempsey?

cobra {Ed002's Note - They can ask what they want of any club.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:21:11
Can someone tell me where all our goals are gonna come from this season?? Cos if Thursday nights any thing to go by it's gonna be a long hard season again! I'm absolutely gutted and feel let down by FSG, it's maddness that we let ac go for 2m and not get a replacement! Role on jan 2013! Chin up reds

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:19:05
Michael Owen ' Liverpools Number 9

Would the club consider it?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:17:43
I realy hope Ian ayre resigns this morning and if he doesn't we need to drive him out

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:16:52
Can't believe that this is true, but trust me it is, Liverpool have approached Hargreaves about a one year contract. YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:16:08
Can we have a adults only page!
Some of the things said on here have
been absolutely tragic and could only
of been said by someone under the age
of ten.

Spurs only spent what they got for modric

Let's get behind the team!!

you got no clue , we are all behind our team , but we area lso grown up enough to realise our lack of goals this season will mean our team struggles , especially when u see the players all other teams signed , FSG havnt invested any money into this club , no stadium news , little money for players , and messing up an important transfer window , i think people have the right to complain about all this , red till i die !!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:15:36
As long as we still get Michael Owen I will be happy.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:15:35
If we are saving 450k week on wages that works out about 7.2m by Xmas so surely the tons will give us something in jan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:14:31
Absolutely gutted about our Liverpool FC this morning. Like many have said how can we possibly of let Carroll go without finding a replacement? Can't believe Dempsey went to Spurs, and genuinely feel for our future as a club. All we need now is for an injury and we'll be a mid table team at best! Worrying times ahead..........

PS Andy Carroll will score today!
28 Camborne

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:14:30
Why has there been so many players seen at John Lennons airport then?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:13:49
Morning all,
Horrible night last night, and there is no doubt who is at fault for the debacle. It's done now though and we have to pick ourselves up and dust ourselves down. After checking the net this morning (incase we had signed a striker in the middle of the night, or I had dreamed the lot!) I looked at our squad, including the youth teams. I've started to feel a bit better. Firstly, We proved last week that we have a first eleven that can compete with anyone in this league. add to that sahin, who I believe will be our new alonso, we have a midfield to die for! Weve got suarez (world class). Then you have Assaidi and yesil, two young attacking options brought in by BR, and like Borini will need a bit of time to adjust. Morgan and Ngoo have promise and will get the opportunity to show what they can do this year. Then there is Raheem Sterling, who has the potential to be world class.
Defence is solid and has cover. Midfield is sorted, and good cover in shelvey and hendo, and of course Lucas. Attacking is lightweight, but we have to believe that this was not BRs doing, he was lied to, and that's why Andy was allowed to go. The owners and Ayre should be ashamed of themselves this morning, but BR, and the supporters will show that we can rise above it. If anyone can give the new kids belief, we can!
We have been let down and lied to again chaps, but I reckon BR is just as deflated as us this morning. Let's get behind him and the young lads in the team. With confidence and support, they can still do a lot of damage.

Keep supporting!

Davedee

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:13:41
sturridge , cavani and llorente to sign in January window. remember the name (ha ha). Just thought that i would start it all over again.
robbie

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:13:14
Probly worst deadline day ever bring back michel owen hate him or love him he is still one of the best finishers around and would be a great back up /sub
Lfclee

He cant finish a game without a six week lay off after, get over it, Owen is crap and has been for a long long time. Ask Newcastle fans if they would have him back?
Fowler was and still is a better player so why not give him a third spell as a super sub?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:12:00
how bad was that window worse than last year when we bought garbage,rodgers left early & ayre put the lights out that say's it all,rodgers said weeks ago we are bringing in a player who will be loved by fans a very exciting player have i or any other fan seen him,we are in deep sh*te if we lose luis for any reason & i feel that the owners are really not backing the manager just stabilizing the club,no nearer a ground decision ,no investment in a striker we have waited for 2 season's for,yes the dead wood has gone but cole is a english aguilani just picking his wages every week,put him in the reserves i say at least he will have to put 90mins instead of sitting picking splinters,it could be a long hard season & i feel we are gonna be nowhere near 4th spot again.ynwa

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:11:22
Gutted last night when we didn't buy an out and out goalscorer, however waking up this morning and seeing our front 3 options of Assaidi, Yesil, Suarez, Morgan, Borini, Sterling, Downing, Gerrard & Pacheco then we certainly have every chance of success.

Yes I don't agree how we have conducted ourselves completely and yes I think Ian Ayre should have the good grace to resign rather than waiting to be sacked but if our game is played at the pace and quality of the Man City game without the basic errors then we can score goals and plenty of them.

Suarez misses lots of chances as many times he should pass to players in better positions by making the right options i could score 10-15 goals per season never mind the lads mentioned!

We need the crowd to stay with the team and all believe!

RedLee

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:10:35
Pls ed do post,its not romour but a hope of lfc fan:
As a livepool fan am dissapointed by our lack of signings on transfer dead line day,but at end of the day theirs bigger hope of rodgers signing so far,his idea's,philasopy,style of play and chance that he gives to our young guns who clearly better players and more motivated than kenny's signings,i dn't know why ppl are gutted of two players not signed but then getting behind our hero's,in rodgers in we trust,ywna

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:57:05
Hi Eds. Great site, thanks for all the hard work. If only our owners could do likewise. Although I would settle for them being on the same continent once in a while. BR must be gutted this morning. More FSG lies and broken promises. Can't blame Fulham for wanting top £ for their 20 goal striker. It is our transfer dealings since FSG came in that have been amaturish so other clubs are gonna take advantage. I like the look of Borini, but I hope he got broad shoulders as there is little help for him and Suarez now.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:09:23
Really now. FSG willing to cuff up 35m on a man who ends up going on loan and probably never coming back to stay for just eighteen months and not ready to give up 7 million on a man who is a proven premier league goalscorer. SEVENTY million for KD who bought players from nowhere but our very own britain[bar sebastian coates] and not even thirty million for BR who was heading in the perfect direction in terms of buying players for the club. Why loan out a striker without finding reinforcements first? Big andy was just about finding his feet and now instead he will he bagging up goals for west ham. This is probably the most quiet window I have seen yet

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:08:11
To have only two recognised strikers (particularly the wasteful pair we have) to start a season is shocking business. Sounds like we are truly skint. Maybe the plan is to keep the ball in midfield for 90 mins and draw every game 0 0. Really hacked off.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:05:04
I am absolutely disgusted with last night, I dont understand for one minute why FSG would'nt put up the cash for Dempsey when we have just recieved 5 million for Adam and correct me if im wrong, 2 million from west ham for Carroll on loan. Dempsey was desperate to join Liverpool and personally I feel sorry for the lad, he's ended up at Spurs which im not sure wasn't his first choice. Rodgers will be fuming, and rightly so, if we are to pick up injuries to any of our forward line now (suarez, borini, sterling) we are absoulutely nakered. Our squad is paper thin and I dont know how we will cope with Europa League, League cup, FA Cup and the league, we now dont have the squad to be able to rest players. Letting Carroll go and not replacing him is almost laughable, its a bit of an embarrassing day to be a red today, as a season ticket holder of 10 years il stick by the club whatever the circumstances, but I am very concerned now with this season.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:05:01
Hello Eds,
can you tell me who will play upfront with Luis now? Cole, Borini? I can`t believe Liverpool didn`t pay 6m for Dempsey after selling Adam. I bet Rodgers is furious. If Suarez is injured os suspended we have NO strikers at Liverpool. Great job by the owners! Can`t wait for Jan window. Will we sell Suarez, Cole, Sterling and get...no one?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:04:32
Well I'm as disappointed as everyone else today but I also feel that we may now have to play our younger players more often and could see them really push on and develop under Brendan. If players like Adam Morgan and Michael Ngoo suddenly start to thrive then we have set ourselves up for years. I know it's worrying but without faith we will never get anywhere.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:02:46
Hi. I am from. South Africa. We are 1hr ahead of you guys so the cut off time was 12am for us. I am sick with the flu and set the alarm for 11pm my time as sky news had the last 1hr transfer updates. I waited and waited for transfer updates from Liverpool and was fuming when no transfers where done. Down here are mainly Liverpool and Man united fans and I always win debates when it comes to both these clubs but how do I explain what just happened. Its beyond belief...an abomination....yes we did make some signings and all we can do as loyal supporters is get behind our current squad and cheer them on to a great season. We will have to make the most of this and still hold our heads up high as I for one believe that the history and greatness of Liverpool will never die. Let's the games begin people...goodluck

 

 

01 Sep 2012 08:00:36
So, another transfer window passes, and all these rumours come to nothing. Spurs sign another of our targets, as they did with sigurdsson. Why can't our owners etc act as decisively and quickly as Daniel Levy at spurs? It makes Liverpool look like amateurs! Maybe if we were an american baseball team they would have been more interested. Let's hope they learn from this, and give BR funds in January, although it'll be too late then.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:59:59
I am not getting as worked up most on here,as I believe in giving the younger players a chance to cover the first team.We had far too many players on the books,and we have swept the decks as they say.Morgan and Ngoo might get more opportunities,Pacheco,Adjoran Suso,even Texiera are capable of stepping up if the first team squad needs help.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:59:02
Hi eds and everyone,

I would like to ask following last night's transfer no show, what is going on at the club? Are FSG simply not backing the manager or did the club simply run out of money and had to sell more in the transfer window? Is it really just arye who is at fault?

Thanks
Gerald

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:57:19
An early Christmas request to Santa:-

"dear Santa, all I want for Xmas is for Ian Ayre to walk into the sunset and to be replaced with David Dein. Pretty please!!!"
Pieboy1812

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:52:57
Remember earlier in the year when Liverpool were allegedly knocked back by AVB prior to BR taking the position? I think we all know why now - AVB came from a club where they spent money (Chelsea) and wanted to be at another like club - and he is (Spurs). Maybe this is the reason that he rejected Anfield - he saw what a mess the finances were in and how we would act in the transfer window, and he ran a mile.
BR on the other hand comes from more frugal teams, and was therefore not put off by this fact. With this in mind, BR deserves all of our support. He is at Liverpool for a reason - to do a job regardless of the money or lack of it. His transfers done will have to perform immediately, but hopefully in 4 months time (if we're not out of the running for the top 4 by Christmas as usual!) the savings made by running on a thread bare squad (apparently upto £450k a week if the papers are right) might mean we can do some business in January...here's hoping!

fishyred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:50:21
To be fair to FSG, they have spent 36 m on players in this window ! Is it their fault all Rodgers has done is chase midfielders ?

CovRed

FSG would not dare come to liverpool again.

What was there net spend then mate? i can tell you it was penny's, these guys are worse then h&g.RedTurk

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:48:47
Fsg are ckearing the decks, maximising comm revenue, tying players down to contracts,....looking to sell?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:48:25
It is quite clear that all is not well at LFC.
Either Ayre has messed up big time and needs to be sacked or the transfer window has shown that FSG really are in trouble and Ayre has executed their plan.
In no way can BR be blamed for any of this. Not even if we finish bottom half of the table!!
Time to get behind BR and the team, but show FSG and Ayre that we are not happy with them.

I hear you mate , but BR should have made sure the replacement player were in before off loading . BR is the only hope for the fans ,the top nobs don't give a rubbish

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:48:18
The Dempsey deal was lost because the board would not stump up an additional £500k for the transfer fee ! That is all our offer was short of Fulhams asking price and they would not budge, due to other offers on the table and their perceived previous 'tapping up' - By all accounts, Rogers is livid and has made it clear to the board.

However, the window is closed now and we will have to work with what we have - Personally, believe it is a good thing, as we will have to give our youngsters a long awaited run in the team, with Sterling, Souso and Morgan to benefit.

How do you know what the other costs to the deal were - wages, add ons, etc? How do you know Clint didn't want to stay in London?

cozinoz

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:48:12
FSG looking like the G&H show all over again.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:46:57
We are real need of a back up striker.we need to bag a free like owen.what do you say eds

Whats he gonna do, we dont want him back... we're not that desperate, man id rather have heskey back.. least he ddint go to Man Utd

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:45:37
He eds and all reds.
Why would fsg cut the wage bill by half a million a week. 25m a year. Think of it we did not spend one penny this window.
Are they planning to sell. Every promise made has been broken. New stadium - redevelopment of anfield - all on the long finger.
Fsg are hicks and Gillette and we have been fooled twice by the yanks .
Time for fans to take action .
I fear b r Will realise soon that these people are persons and Will leave. Ayres Will be the scapegoat and fired. Another salary saved.
Yanks no thanks.

So, the new players coming are not getting paid each week... wow, great deal for FSG

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:45:21
Am still waiting for the new striker to be revealed today,it was not leaked out yesterday,no need to slate FSG.this is gonna surprise the world today how the deal went..
Blood red fan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:44:54
Ok, here's something to think about.We weren't gonna win the league this season anyway, and I remember Rodgers earlier on saying getting into the top 4 will be hard and not to expect miracles. Trimming the wage bill was important for lfc to stay afloat. I think we have a very good squad compared to last season and we will push for 4th spot. If we get are close by Jan, expect a striker then. Trust in Rodgers he will get the best out of all the strikers. And all the playing staff. Spurring is only worth 5mill, Dempsey was a good choice but screw Fulham, they r the ones to blame.
The dark red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:44:48
Hi eds,
Why is it so stressful supporting LFC? :-/
Do you think the owners are wary about splashing the cash after Comolli's and King Kennys heavy spending last year?

It seems to me that we're now paying the price for it.
SA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:42:19
Great work Eds over the last few days (as ever) but you should all get some kip in a dark room. Before you do, are there other strikers put there who are out of contract that we could sign apart from Owen? i couldn't think of any.

Iggypop

 

 

01 sep 2012 07:42:06
morning eds and fellow reds, just got up feeling really optimistic about our chances this season. fsg have really dug deep to back up br, bought in some real quality forwards as promised. followed through on their promise on a decision for the new or redeveloped stadium, wait now i've woke up, must have been dreaming!!

is it only me who wants answers? i really feel sorry for br, goes on press conference says 1 or 2 forwards will be brought in, told to get rid of carroll to fund moves, carroll goes, then fsg pocket all the savings in wages and run.

£6 million for dempsey? wtf, bilbao desperate to be rid of llorente, no bid.

i hope br can some how get us through till we can be sold by fsg, posted a few times about not trusting them, some fans agree others call me an un loyal fan. i'm loyal enough to be honest, we are a laughing stock of a club again. how are our players meant to play on sunday when they and their manager and club have been left out to dry.

where have all those people gone who said trust in fsg, they want the best for the club?

is this the best for lfc?

we need to demand answers and try and get behind br to c what he can do for us and hopefully fsg will do the right thing and sell the club.

please post on rumours page eds need answers and opinions

cheers from a very scared life long
red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:22:37
I know 1 guy who'll be pleased with yesterday..Borini...let's hope he takes the opportunity and stays fit.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:21:59
paid 35 m for andy carroll. wont sanction 7m for dempsey.....where is the logic?

redkenyan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:18:42
Dempsey could have made us top four challengers but now we will finish top six at best. The owners only had to spend 6 or 7 million and the millions on offer from the Champions League would have achievable. FSG please sell the club.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:13:25
It doesn't get any better after a nights sleep. I wonder if Ayre slept?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:08:41
In 2010 FSG spent 300 million to buy 2 players for Boston Red Sox and now they dont have 6 million to buy Dempsey......

No wonder where all the money goes .... You dont have to be a rocket
scientist just see Red Sox performance this year and can understand
where will they invest......the season has been pathetic and they have
to invest in Sox big time.....people make fun of Glazers ...FSG are no
different.....someone rightly said Abrahmovich has invested more in
Liverpool than FSG.....

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:06:45
I have atleast 3 positive comments to make about last night.
1. Pacheco is not going on loan anymore which means that he can be used for us. So atleast we now have another striker.
2. Now that FSG screwed up big, we will have to use alot more youngsters. This may mean the likes of Sterling, Suso and Morgan will get more game time.
3. We have reduced the wage bill by a considerable amount so that is okay.

We all know it sucks. But now all we can do as fans is get behind the team and force them onwards. We get behind Rodgers as it isn't his fault about this mess and we help push towards Champions League. If we beat Arsenal we will once again see the sun at Anfield.
YNWA
GOD

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:06:39
I bet Suarez and skertl are over the moon at signing contract extensions now. No doubt person ayre promised them bags of new signings for a top four finish. It's not just the fans who are cheesed off with this lack of support from fsg, BR and all the players will feel pretty narked off right now too, especially luiz and skertl.
I will support our team til the day I drop but the support for the owners has seriously deteriorated now, just trying to make a quick $ by slashing the ballOned wage bill.
Mid table finish me thinks.....
Seriously fed up red, chris

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:04:53
Now we loaned Carrol out to West Ham, we only got Morgan as a back up striker... I really hope he shows he is good enough... Bad bad deadline day according to ins.
DanielDenmark

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:04:43
Let's not feel too bad, we have great players. There's alway January!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:03:57
Drogba anyone?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 07:03:46
After yesterdays fiasco i for one am heartbroken over what a shambels our once great proud club has become ive been a liverpool fan for 30 years always enjoyed the highs and lows through out the season s i understand clubs trimming wage,bills and saving money i read some where brendan rodgers say that he had nowhere near the strength and depth of the squad that he wanted so next plan sell a loan players to weaken it further with no one coming in .i feel sorry for brendan rodgers i feel he,was made a fool of and used i woudnt blame him if he walked away . Ian ayre you should resign fsg back us or sell us dont drag us down any further the european kings are dead long live the king

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:57:59
First of all i would like to thanks all the editors for the hard work they have put in and i am a regular reader here and supporting my club from last 10 years now, i wanna say that after last night i feel really reaaly disheartened but i am quite sure the owners are looking to sell the club because what they have done could really haunt our beloved club and also the relationship between brendan and these guys also must be bad from now on....i would be very happy if some rich billionare buy our beloved club and help us achieve the bpl title...and i still hope luck is on our side and we did perform well and finish in top four this season
thanks..

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:53:50
I'm a little bit dissappointed and surprised we didnt get Dempsey or another forward. But glad we dodged Sturridge. Its been a very good window and the squad has improved, man citys has as have Chelseas but dont think Spurs, Arsenal or even Man Utds, with age and form catching up to some, has. If we're fighting for top four come jan I trust the owners will buy a forward. Everyone calling for the owners heads need to get real they spent a fortune last year and the management delivered buggar all. I think they're trying to get their reputation back and ensure they wont be taken for mugs again in future windows. We were/are the laughing stock of english football with some of the prices we paid and if people stop adding 2-3m as soon as they hear its Liverpool then this windows been a success.

Hopefully Assaidi and the likes of Suso, Morgan and the new kid Samed are given a chance and take it, and if that happens, which is easily possible, then we'll soon all be asking Dempsey who?

Lets not forget how we played against city last sunday and hope thats the norm for this year.

CQ

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:53:09
People are forgetting assaidi, he is another option for sterlings position, it ain't all bad. Suarez,borini,assaidi,sterling,Morgan,downing. I also feel now, Gerrard will have to play in our front 3 for a better goal threat.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:51:20
As a supporter of 35 years down here in NZ I am totally underwhelmed by this transfer window. I understand that FSG were burned by the low performing signings and results from last season (after huge expenditure) but to see the lack of foresight or total support for BR is very sad. We now don't have a potent strike force and are one injury or suspension away from a crisis. I don't see more than one potential 20 goal person and can't see how we will score 70 or 80 goals in the season - this is a debacle in the making. I hope the lads prove me wrong - I wait with baited breath!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:49:52
In protest nobody should go to the arsenal game

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:47:40
I bet Suarez and skertl are over the moon at signing contract extensions now. No doubt person ayre promised them bags of new signings for a top four finish. It's not just the fans who are cheesed off with this lack of support from fsg, BR and all the players will feel pretty narked off right now too, especially luiz and skertl.
I will support our team til the day I drop but the support for the owners has seriously deteriorated now, just trying to make a quick $ by slashing the ballOned wage bill.
Mid table finish me thinks.....
Seriously fed up red, chris

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:45:25
Just looking at the first team I think suso,Morgan ,yesil,Pacheco are gonna have to play a big part this season oh and sterling but that's obvious anyway

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:43:46
ian ayre needs to take resposibility for last nights fiasco , has made fsg look like amatuers and made br look a fool for letting ac leave without having any cover .turncoat owen looks our only option now i know we have morgan and the young lad we just signed but are they ready for the responsibility if anything happens to suarez.
im happy with our other signings but to leave ourselves so light up front is not good.

exmouth red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:32:35
Taxi for Ian ayre,straight to the dole office to pick ip his p45 after yesterday's shambolic dealings in the transfer market, oh and special thanks also go to fsg, for telling us lies and filling us with false hope.
Jonny71

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:31:25
I bet you Adam Morgan is running around the house screaming with joy.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:30:09
Shiut up about Carroll
The manager didn't even want him as back up, even if BR had known that no one was coming in he would have gone saving £80k a week.
Yeah missing Dempsey was disappointing, he's decent back up to what we have, not a worldy though.
Now the kids have a free run at it, a tight squad with hungry young pros who can become the new legends, some won't quite make the grade like spearing but you can't say he didn't have a chance to prove himself.
Look at the positives.
PistolPete

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:17:25
To be honest, no surprise to me that no money was spent, just pleased we got Allen - my problem, and thoughts are with Brendan - if he was promised funds for at least one striker, and was shafted by the owners by not giving him and and basically forcing into loan AC, and selling others, does ths make his position untenable?

Another thought though, could it be BR's own fault, he quite publicly stated AC and others were being let go because they were not going to be first choice and be on the bench, surely then any prospective signing would be thinking the same, it was obvious BR had his first choice 11, and a semi decent bench, so the prospect of any signing being an automatic first choice was very thin, and the players we were linked with, would all have wanted that.

I know if I was Dempsey, Sturridge or any of the BIG names we were linked with, I would not go somewhere I wasn't guaranteed game time.

John B

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:11:18
Our transformation is complete.we will now play like swansea,have their ex manager,have budget like swansea and will probably finish. At position near swans in table.

BR will do well now to just finish top 8.


It all makes sense now why owners wanted BR or managers like martinez because top managers like rafa and van gal would have eaten ian alive for such disaster.

We are now a mid table club FACT! With top fans!
I am sad and I now only. Have my red family.

Red indian

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:28:43
First and foremost, I do agree that the transfer deadline day was a disaster for us. But the people who are panicking, there's nothing to worry about. We do have attacking options available. There's Morgan, Pacheco, Yesil and even Downing can cover for us offensively. I know they are not the best, but they are good enough in my opinion.

This will also give young players mentioned above to gain experience. Unfortunately, this is something we have to deal with for 3 months. I agree things are not looking good, but hopefully things will work out for us eventually.

Something for us Reds to feel optimistic...

TheDarkKnight

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:28:40
br dont have clue. send carroll on loan and get no one back in. what hell is going on. if we didnt have the money to get some one then we shouldnt of loaned carroll out but no. this will back fire on him big time. the owners are full of crap dont have clue. iam sorry to say this is bad news all round. iam really worried where the club is going.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:28:06
once a yank always a yank , we should have learned from G/H's . the same promises broken , why oh why do we fall for it time and time again , the owners are just custodians for a number of years , its us the fans that keep the club afloat week in week out , its us fans that put the money into the club through buy tickets and season tickets , plus the kits , not just 1 kit in most cases depending on our children and how many we have , then its the tops home and away for the adults , the last few owners have ran our beloved club into the ground and we have let them , its time to take our club back , and for all the fans who don't want to be negative , well southampton bought a player we would have loved to have , and he will score more goals than borini, so will evertons new strike force and players , jelavic ,who by the way wanted to come to us , his goals made everton finish above us last season and meralles who is dubbed the belgium ronaldo who cost 5 mill , who ever was in charge off scouting or buying the players need to be sacked , also look at swanseas new players , and laudrup was linked with us , but maybe he knew he would not get the money from our owners he knocked back ,

before its too late , us the fans need to take our club back and vote with our feet and money , its called hard love , but in the end we will be saving our club from relegation , because if we get a few injuries to our few key players we dont have a good enough squad to compete , this is not a knee jerk reaction , its reality , because if there is no money for rodgers then were as the sponsorship money from warrior gone , or the money from the other sponsorships , we had 4mill from charlie adams sale and dempsey cost only 6 mil , and a few players cost less than that today , i dont belive fulham would not sell him to us for the same amount as spurs bought him for , they are in a buisness they dont punish , plus dempsey could have said no to spurs , and kenny has to hold his hand up for his part in our down fall ,

as ive said its us the fans that will save liverpool from the reality of relegation , because every other team has done good in this transfer window , and will not be scared to play us as they all have better squads and players ,

eds you have not posted any of my posts since june , so could you please post this as its from a very concerned fan , who is not knee jerking but facing a reality what we all should look at , if suarez and borini gets injured who will be our striker to come on and scare defences

mickey b , a true fan of liverpool fc ,

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:20:40
Well done FSG, I bet you lot are sipping the champaign tonight, roughly £23.5m saved in wages over the next year!

Anyone else feel like they are creaming us?

Make your profit and piss off please as its clearly all you Yanks are interested in!

Good luck Rodgers, think you are going to need it if we get a few more injuries!

Scarface

Considering we were loosing about 1m a week then we are half way to sorting that problem out, If and when we get champions league football we will be in the black, then being able to move forward.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:19:36
LIVERPOOL
Players in: Fabio Borini (Roma, undisclosed), Joe Allen (Swansea, undisclosed), Oussama Assaidi (Heerenveen, undisclosed), Nuri Sahin (Real Madrid, season-long loan).


TOTTENHAM
Players in: Gylfi Sigurdsson (Hoffenheim, undisclosed), Jan Vertonghen (Ajax, undisclosed), Emmanuel Adebayor (Manchester City, undisclosed), Mousa Dembele (Fulham, undisclosed), Hugo Lloris (Lyon, £7.9million), Clint Dempsey (Fulham, undisclosed).

And it seems we want top 4..
Havent been this disappointed with a transfer window before..all promises and no actual signings...

Red Saudi

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:18:16
All I can say is...

Your not famous, your not famous, your not famous...... Your not famous anymore!

Youuuurrr not famous anyyyy more...

Tree Blue

And you are? One cashed up billionaire and you think you have a good club?

You never were !

Classy from the tree. Comes here to thumb his nose when they did f.a. for years. Easy to win the lotto pal but your lot will ever be respected. City will always be grubby spoilt rich kids

cozinoz

Agree but note not anymore and not NEVER ha ha ha ha ha ha bluenose

*you're *you're *you're * you're *yoooouuuurr're

Learn proper grammar before you take the pi55

The crowman

We still have 100's of millions of fans worldwide whilst you have 5,000 fans in Liverpool.

Blue rubbishe.

Tom.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:13:20
I guess theres always Heskey...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:29:16
although Dempsey a decent player he's not a world class goal scorer I think and I hate to say it but I think we are paying for the massive mistakes made by the previous management

 

 

01 Sep 2012 06:03:58
dont shoot me but i can see rodgers walking...he must be pissed off ...from day one we all knew strikers were the no1 priority...big andy was always going to leave ..all this rubbish about not letting a 35mill player go on loan???...so why leave it to the last day of the transfer window....i think yesil is carrol replacement and not going into the youth team..y else wud he be in the stands at the hearts game....i might not be making much sense but i am so pissed off at the moment.i just dont understand wot the **** is going on at lfc...dave d

I don't this BR is naffed off... I think he sees that exactly what it is - a rebulding process that starts with getting rid!

When you look at an amazing building and admire the architecture you forget that before they got above ground they spent half the time digging dirt out and putting in proper foundations so that the building will stand. FSG are now doing the digging... getting rid of players who are taking big salaries but are not even playing or way past their peak... when they've gone - which most have except Cole - they'll now start with their original intention and plan - buy quality prospects who will be on lower wages that can peak with us and potentially resell if needed.

Joe Allen, in 2-3 years will be worth £30million. We could sell in 4-5 for probably £15-20 million. Now that makes more sense that running after players who want their last big move to top up their retirement fund. You pay higher wages and have no resale value.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:54:15
I can only look at this one way. We lost three proven international strikers ( Kuyt, Carroll, Bellamy) for combined close to nothing in transfer fees. We replaced them with one player in Borini, who is totally worthless when he doesn't have the threat of Suarez on the field with him. I fear that in any game Suarez does not play in, we will score 0 goals in. If Brendon Rodgers can keep us in the top 6-8 until January with one striker with a track record of scoring goals, he might be the greatest manager of all time. He is going to have to be creative... Try Gerrard, Allen, or even Glen Johnson up top when Suarez is having a rest. Morgan is not ready, and I have to believe Pacheco isn't ready either... I can't believe I'm saying this, but we might as well bring back Owen at this point. He is old, but not dead! I bet Brendon Rodgers wishes he was back in Wales right now.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:50:25
Now where are all those fans who say that "Liverpool FC buy players who play for the shirt and blah blah blah". At this moment i would rather preffer to support Chelsea or Man City whose Rich owners atleast have a willingness to sign up players the coach feels will strengthen the squad. I mean if City got a bargain of a deal of 7-8M for Sinclair then what the hell were we doing??. It just shows you that IF you have rich owners you can do stuff.

Ed's correct me if i am wrong, but wasnt there a while back when the Prince of Saudi Arabia was interested in buying off LFC??...Rant over.... {Ed002's Note - Prince Kenny Huang you mean.}

Go and support Chelsea or Man City then. We ( THE REAL SUPPORTERS) will continue to turn up, home and away, and support OUR team. This was allways a long term plan to get us self sustaining and get young players in who will be with us as we try to get back to where we once were. Do you want us to be the next Leeds or Portsmouth?
Robbie

Mohammed rashid el maktoum

This is sad... did you ever wish that you had other parents because they were richer than yours?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:46:56
what the hell is fsg thinking with this huge wage bill stuff ?
we should have loaned suarez to accrington stanley & downing to qpr to reduce the wage bill a bit more..
and while they are at it loan sterling to spurs as well and get a couple of quid from them..
we have toooooo first team strikers for 50 + games this season and brendan wants more ! I'm sure FSG's "soccer" experts must be thinking Brendan is obsessed with squad depth sh*t..

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:43:22
ED'S is Sahin available for the Arsenal game??? {Ed002's Note - Sure.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:41:53
I want carroll back!

Cheerio

I didn't want him to go !!!
KernowRed

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:39:17
Could it be the club will be sold AGAIN!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:37:18
Hello eds..! I think you guys need some rest now.. Please post this in the rumors page..

This Dempesy fiasco would have happened if Spearing agreed for the permanent move and we got that 3 millions...?

I know this doesn't count now and specially a target not acquired because of so little amount has to be the owners fault..

I am from India And i was up till 4 in the morning in the hopes of getting any good news. Till now the owners have hardly put a single wrong step but this is very bad.. We don't have sufficient players in the squad to play..

But my dear Liverpool supporters don't lose heart. We have few brilliant players in the academy and we have got a brilliant young striker just arrived so maybe Rogers with his footballing intellect guide the team towards success till December. Then we have a transfer window.

I thing we should give Suso a chance to play and move Gerrard to front three.

Yesil, Sterling, Suarez, Borini, Assaidi, Gerrard, Morgan

We might just have a wonderful thing here.

Rogers has no fault in this nor the players so please lets just support them and be loud at Anfield so we can gather as much points as possible...

Musicnation

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:35:10
can we still sign michael owen as he is a free agent? {Ed002's Note - Yes.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:27:29
So when's an oil rich owner going to take over? We'd have a better stadium, players and trophies.... THEN WE WILL RULE THE WORLD! *insert evil laugh

YNWA!
JS

Its what we need, if we dont get a rich owner, a billionaire, we wont be winning the league.. its as simple as that these yanks cant hep us, they are clueless and i think they're about ready to bail

Don

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:19:02
Pacheco, Morgan and Yesil look like they will get some minutes. Hope they can put it in the back of the old onion bag for us! Cheer up mates! We still have some good young fellas that can play! January will be here before you know it!

Cali Red

What makes you think we'll buy anyone in january,FSG's time at the club has been amateur at best.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:18:23
Hi Eds,

Does the clubs like Madrid and Barca are owned by Fans?

If yes, How did they buy the club?

Are there any clubs in England run by fans (not single owner)?

These Yonks all we had just broke promises and current owners are trying to become one of them...

AngryRed

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:12:24
Last day of transfer window as lively as the kop at hearts game

Scouseme

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:11:19
I am disappointed like all of you, but not that much. I am not frustrated that we missed out on Dempsey. I think 4-5 mil for a 29 years old who is also in the last year of his contract was a fair offer. Good thing is that we didn't get bullied by Fulham and paid over the odds. Remember what happened last summer? Downing for 20 mil, Adam for 8 mil, 35 mil on Carroll.

I have to admit, I am bit worried about our finishing ability but I believe Suarez and Borini will improve. Credit to Rodgers for getting rid of the deadwoods, they should've been gone long before. I think we had a fairly decent transfer window.

I love, really love King Kenny. I supported him through thick and thin, never ever criticized. But what I learned from this window is that he wasted at least 80 mil on stupid transfers. I know he's not the only one but I don't want to get started on Comolli. Before you blame FSG, think again.


Jack D.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 05:03:13
I can't wait to play Spuds!

Seems like every player mentioned in the same breath as Liverpool, Spurs jump on it. Whether we make an offer or not, they've thrown a bid on the table just incase we're serious. I'm guessing they have a plan, and that plan has succeeded and made us their own private enemy this season!

Red7.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 04:43:34
Keeping business until late implies one of two things:

1) you hold on to your assets (in this case AC) until you find a replacement - FAILED

Or

2) you pay the hostage's premium. FAILED

if you do not want to face either of these consequences, then you should do your business very early in the window.

This is not business 101, anyone who tried to scalp a ticket at a match or a concert knows this... Shocked at what happened.

Ayre has done some magnificent deals on the marketing side. But i guess transfers is not his forte.

Sharing my thoughts ..

Barnes' Left Foot

 

 

01 Sep 2012 04:42:58
Absolute JOKE.....broken promises....This is what you get when panic buying last season...would have kept Carroll until we had a replacement in the bag....we will struggle without an out an out goalscorer...Suarez is too wasteful

 

 

01 Sep 2012 04:40:31
I'm pretty gutted to see our handling of this transfer window. Im sure even Commoli would have tied up Dempsey. I can't sleep, lying in bed thinking about what could have been. Looks like Yesil will have to step up quickly. Also young Morgan. I think we can expect to see Gerrard playing an even more advanced role. Nice1 Eds, been reading this site for a few years now. Great job.

JFT96 YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 04:39:29
I try not to post after Liverpool lose a game because the emotions take over and its quite hard to see any positives through the negatives. Today I have the same horrible feeling in my gut as when we lose a game, so much so thats its 04:09am and im still awake moaning on the internet!

Looking at the situation objectively lets look at the positives;
1. We have improved our midifield substantially with Joe Allen and Nuri Sahin. Both are excellent ball players and are a huge improvement on last season.
2. Fabio Borini looks like he has the making of a very good player when he settles down a bit. So far his finishing has been a bit erratic but his movement in and around the box is very good, he'll get himself into alot of goal scoring positions.
3. Oussama Assaidi, I don't know anything about him other than the videos that we've all no doubt watched and the profiles the Ed's have done. So I suppose it can only be a good thing we've an attacking winger.
4. We didn't lose Agger, Skrtel or Johnson.
5. Brendan Rodgers (no doubt hes as pissed off about today as all of us).
6. We have trimmed down the wage bill

Here are the negatives:

1. We have found out the hard way that our transfers are being handled by Mr beans apprentice. The way LFC has conducted its business today is nothing short of embarrassing. We must be the laughing stock of Europe. Lets hope it has cost Mr Ayre his job.
2. Andy Carroll. I was in the 'Pro-Carroll' group, but regardless of whether you liked him or disliked him, only a Buffoon would allow him to go on loan without already securing his replacement, especially as we were already light in the striking department.
3. Injuries or suspension to any one of our 2 strikers and we are really in the mire.
4. But most of all, what is really annoying me at the moment is that with BR in charge and with the defence and midfield we've got, I really believed that if we added a goal scoring striker we had a real chance of finishing 3rd maybe 2nd.

I still think our starting 11 is good enough to challenge for the top 4, but it is unrealistic to think we won't pick up any injuries or suspensions. We will have to treat the FA cup, Europa league and Capital 1 cup as reserve games because with our squad so threadbare we simply can't risk losing anybody for the league.

Disheartened But trying to look on the bright side

Tommy Walsh

Fantastic post. I feel exactly the same. What could have been? Wouldn't it help a lot if someone came out and said 'look this was the plan, for whatever reason it fell through - we've learned from it and it won't happen again'. Just some explanation of what went wrong yesterday. Even if not signing any more players was the plan all along!

Undoubtably our 1st squad has improved dramatically but I can't help but feel adding an out and out goal scorer would have put us back in contention. We probably needed two. We certainly didn't need to lose one!

I totally agree. our first 11 has improved and we have got rid of adam etc which was always a plan this window. i feel we have enough depth all over except for a striker, as is obvious.

at least we will see some suso, morgon etc get some minutes.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 04:36:42
What a mediocre club we have become!

I am now despondently questioning FSG and whether they really did us an favours when they bought us.

FSG talked about understanding the rich history of our club. They continuously talk of being guardians of a moment of our history as opposed to thoughtless owners of a football franchise. BUT times have moved on and we need our ownership to have moved on with it.

In a modern age LFC cannot any longer operate a wall of silence as it is disrespectful, pretentious and damaging. Social media now means that everyday fans are a 'source' for lazy journalists and consequently stupidity must be answered and squashed quickly in order to avoid informational 'breakdowns'. More importantly as the modern fan yearns for up-to-date information it is fundamental in market strategy and relations. I no longer have any faith that they meant any of what they said let alone understand that we are not their average American fan. WE are the guardians of our traditions and Werner shows a complete lack of understanding this whilst Ayre's scouse accent does not mean he automatically understands this.

FSG call themselves 'needfully ruthless' whereas they'd more accurately be described as personic as no possible grounds exist for them to think they can really succeed in a game they clearly do not understand. We need them to give us a fast reply but given their usual strategy we will get nothing.

The real people that have brought our great club to the point of utter disrepute are the sell-out Moores family who had a stronger tradition with Everton than LFC. Their blue-greed moved us to the brink of administration and now to being the second best club in Liverpool. The ghost of Sir John must be walking the current corridors of LFC whilst laughing madly at the work conducted by his nephew. They had the chance to make us what Man City have become but THEY chose something else for us. Oh how lucky we are, It is a very sad time to be a red whilst destructive and obstructive powers have a greater say than we.

WE bleed red blood, WE cry red tears, WE wave red scarves as WE walk the red trail. It is sad to think that WE have no say and will probably get no explanations.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 04:33:03
Well this disaster is not FSG i dont blame them not spending but Dalglish his fool hardiness has put us here.
Carroll wouldnt be on loan coz they wouldnt have wasted money on him Allen wouldnt be needed if Henderson wasnt bought.
Then you have Downing well that 20 mill could have bought a better winger and a decent left back.
The other fact is Rodgers and the rest of us all know not to dump players thinking someone is a shoe in it doesnt happen.
Those that fail to plan plan to fail.

I agree. Deadline day's disaster is nothing but an echo of KK's regime

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:55:59
get a grip, yes i feel bad foe BR working with peanuts but please remember, we was almost bust, not so long ago. being prudent is important. if KK and DC was still in charge that money would have been spent on duds.its those plyers who have put a bugger on this window.i think if we did have at least another £10m or so we would be in a very strong position, i think Br has signed a couple of good players in allen and sahin, and in the other two he has shrewd backup buys at low wages. imagine if we had sold suarez or agger, would the squad have been better off, imagine trying to please fans if we sold them two or even would we be able to replaces them with players of same status and impact on our team. i doubt BR would have been able use it all for transfers fees for them anyway, if we are still balancing books in accordance to last seasons woes. however i feel it will make his team even more determind to score and get results. and hopefully the positive impact of his signings shall be enough for the club to back BR sufficiently in the next two windows. its hard, i know, but in BR we should trust. (even with his hands tied)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:55:08
Broken promises again, what else can i say..

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:53:38
The only thing that will save FSG a whole lot of grief, particularly if we lose on Sunday, will be the immediate sacking of Ian Ayre.

I really hope we can dig out a win coming up and perhaps that will be a catalyst to somehow pull the squad together, but if it's 3 points dropped on Sunday, I'm afraid things are going to get very, very ugly...

We're not suddenly going to get battered every week!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:53:01
What a fiasco. FSG obviously don't have or are not prepared to spend again after last seasons diabolical spending spree on Carroll,Adam, Downing, Henderson & Enrique. Looks like some kids will now get a game or two, hopefully Susu will feature. More worryingly than the lack of players coming is the lack of new/larger stadium. without this we won't be top four again for a decade.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:52:35
Hello guys, this post is to put things into perspective.

Very disappointed by what happened last night. I think we should forget about Top 4, unless Brendan can really work magic with this squad.

So how many of you want Ayre to fired tomorrow?

Now, I am just saying that it would be difficult to gain Top 4 as Spurs have most probably strengthen their squad.
Lets see, VDV, King and Modric out : Dembele, Vertonghen, Sig and Lloris in.


Corvin

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:50:58
some may disagree with me, but the one man i feel sorry for, apart from other liverpool fans, is the manager. i think he has been duped by the owners, he put his faith in the likes of ian ayre & that has cost him & the club.the media will make him look like a clown & some of the fans will also blame him, and come the end of the season, if we do not finish well, he could well be sacked. i honestly feel he would not let carrol go, if he wasn't promised a replacement. what happened to the money we saved by selling the likes of aqua & the rest, has it gone to boston? what happened to the adam money? the fans need to get some serious answers from the owners. we now have to put our faith in the likes of morgan, suso etc to carry us on till january at least, which is a more difficult time to do business. i would like to finish off, by urging the fans to give rodgers & the team time & support, they'll really need it now.
an extremely disappointed reds fan.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:32:00
I think a lot of people are getting carried away..yeah we definetly needed a forward but for whatever reason it didn't happen...if its true we were talking to damiao its shows owners mean business.keep faith .stay positive...we had a rough transfer window last season when fsg did back Kenny...so caution must be used by them...
MrJimmy

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:51:42
hi eds and all fans, I still can't sleep and it is 2.33 in the morning I have a lot of questions to the eds, do the owners know they have screwed up badly they have upset everyone including their manager BR. Why were they even involved in the bidding wasn't ayre dealing with it. If they continue to blunder like this we will soon want them out, things like this can cost the club a season= less revenue. They are not very good business men, and this is not baseball please have they not gathered this by now. I and all the fabs are so so annoyed.
They should now in the Jan window let BR get who he wants in striker I mean.
I hope they do realise how careless they have been in this transfer of dempsey, letting BR make carroll go and then not signing another striker, pathetic. They are jeopardising their own investments.
eds what are your feelings about this? thankyou
hibsylfc {Ed002's Note - There was never going to be vast expenditure without money being raised from sales.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:59:41
Ok guys, today has probably been the most disappointing day in quite a while. I have been reading this site everyday for years and the last 4 weeks been hoping to see a llorente, damiao, Dempsey to sign to help our light weight forward line. It didn't happen so now we need to support the team and manager ( god forbid BR quits over this debacle ) so we can start picking up points. Our first 11 can compete with anyone in the leauge. And looking at the options we have in each position I still feel we can finish in top 4 if we support the team.

This squad is still better quality than LY we might not have the depth, but I take quality over quantity all day. And now suso, sterling Morgan and coady can get some game time to show if there as good as we hope.

Don't worry guys, BR is a top coach and I'm confident we will climb the table with this squad. After we beat arsenal on Sunday we will be all smiles. :-) Like if you agree.


Reina/doni

Kelly/Johnson/cara Robinson/Enrique/downing

Cara/Coates/Agger/Skertel/Kelly

Allen/Lucas/Sahin/gerrard/Henderson/coady/shelvey

Gerrard/borini/assadi/suso/cole Sterling/downing/assadi

Suarez/borini/Morgan/yesil

Jkjk23

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:27:02
'We are here to win'.. FSG said on day 1. And sorry to say, after 2 seasons I see that they don't have enough clue and money to win.

Last season = no clue, KD shouldn't be given permanent job & spent silly money for average players.
This season = no money, I believe FSG should spend as BR looks like have an eye for quality players but they don't (though we have released some players to lower wage bills).

2 season = 2 poor decisions from FSG, 'We are not to win' with them. When FSG came in, expectation would be LFC challenge the title not struggling get into Top 4, and looks like we are (in consecutive 3 seasons). 2,5 years is enough to see FSG quality in handling our club.

We need right owner now I believe. we need stable owner who don't hesitate to spend. No offense, I am LFC fan from Indonesia follow my club since 1991 and want to see LFC win the title.

What a muppet you are lad. Why blame FSG for giving kenny the job last season dont forget it was ALL the fans chanting his name when hodgson was in charge, so FSG did what the fans wanted and it back fired so blame the fans not FSG. Plus they have spent loads of money and its not there fault the manager bought crap.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:20:04
there is plenty of blame to go around thats for sure but i blame rodgers the most if he wasnt so busy railroading daglish signings out of town he might have time to find replacements. the way he handled andy carrol was like a green amatuer.

ian ayre is the man to blame not rodgers he was lied to simple as that... He was told to reduce the wage bill which he did then wasnt given the funds he needed. He couldnt have done anymore so lay of him you fool

Ian the red

You can't blame BR he is the manager he has no control over transfers this is dealt with by FSG or Ian Ayres. I agree with ED001 comments last night about Ian Ayres the bloke is a liability and the longer he keeps his role, the longer we are going to suffer. his handling of the transfers yesterday were a complete shambles. Spurs paid 6 million for Dempsey and we are now going to have to wait until the next window and clubs will make us pay through the nose as they know we have to buy. Ross

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:18:22
To All Ed's, what is your opinion on deadline day and this transfer window for us? Do you share our frustrations? Johndog {Ed002's Note - I am surprised a deal could not be done for Dempsey. The rest, without the sale of Carroll, is as expected really.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:17:30
If we fail to get CL this season we wont be blaming the posts or the manager

We'll be blaming FSG and Ayre.

Shouldve let that sheikh buy our club when he was interested

In Brendan I trust

Shak Attack

Do you mean the one that needed bailing out by his neighbours in Abu Dhabi?

I'm as disappointed as anybody with what happened yesterday but the reality is that when we were on the point of liquidation, the only buyers to step to the plate were FSG. Irrespective of what happened yesterday, every supporter should be thankful that they were there when nobody else was.

I am sure that during the coming weeks, more will emerge and then maybe, more rational views will be forthcoming.

For the time being, let's just move on and get behind the team and the club. With a bit of luck, we'll do well up to Christmas, hopefully making us more attractive to players during the next transfer window. Who knows, maybe we'll even be in with a shot at my dream signing, Llorente!

Ginger Rodgers

That so called sheik i believe is bankrupt, where would we be now

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:00:04
Been so busy venting my frustrations, almost forgot. THANK YOU EDS ,

 

 

01 Sep 2012 03:00:02
On a positive note, we have still got many options for the forward line among the squad. Brendan plays two wingers/ forwards with a striker in the centre.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the likes of Gerrard, Shelvey, Assadi and even Downing and Cole play there at times throughout this season if needed. As well as Suarez, Borini, Sterling, Morgan and even the new lad Yesil, again if needed.

So we have approximately 10 options for the front three that Rodgers prefers to play with in his tactics. Not saying it's all roses, Dempsey and Damaio would have been Champions League. Hopefully this galvanises the squad.

Shelvey was putting quite a tally together for Blackpool as a support striker before we recalled him last season. Sterling looks good for a few assists and Borini is pure trouble for defenders in and around the box. Suarez will need to really pull his shooting boots laces tight and become the clinical finisher, Morgan might even be able to get 5 from the bench, he's a quick learner and likes the tap.

Ollieston

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:59:38
Well, I guess everyone is as disappointed as me.
I had enough off totenham stealing the players we scout for just because they don't have a decent scout
with siggurdson and dempsey headed there and us having interest in lloris before them and even them having interest in nurd sahin and joe allen before we got them.
I bet AVB is laughing he's ass out now when he sees that we haven't signed anyone today because of him.
Do you guys think we can still sign people like llorente and damio on loan cause i don't see any cover on our team but is it allowed cause i overheard that the loan window would close later if i'm right can an edd or a red give me a date.
thanks, I would just like to thank the adds for this great site that i've been hooke to throughout out this summer and would like to ask if it's open after the transfer window closes.
dido

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:58:49
Eds, sorry but I'm bored on the night shift. What on earth happened today? I am absolutely she'll shocked. Not the fact that we didn't have the marqee signings everyone wants but more the fact that we let Carroll go and then failed to get anyone in as a replacement. BR is clearly no mug and recognised the need for more fire power early this week in the press, but then to get no one in after releasing a £35million striker on loan is ludicrous. Something is amiss, and I doubt it was anything to do with BR.
I wouldn't be surprised to see some boardroom movement soon.

That all said, we are still Liverpool fc, we still have a decent, if somewhat thin squad. BR clearly has a good eye for talent, plays some good football and represents the club very well in my opinion. It's now four months until we can next look to buy more firepower, moaning isn't going to get us goals. Let's see this as an opportunity to blood some more youth and build a stronger support which supports our manager, players And club as best we can. Starting with three points against Arsenal on Sunday.
Andy the red.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:53:05
A massive thank you to all EDs for there outstanding work...now you guys can get some much deserved rest!! {Ed019's Note - Not with 700 posts waiting!! }

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:50:36
we offered £3m for dempsey which was rejected. Spurs and Aston Villa earlier in the day had agreed to an asking price of £5m, with a further £2m in add-ons.

vivek12011

You are sooooo wrong on your figures. We F**cked up by claiming, weeks ago that we had Dempsey. Fulham have seen their arses over it and, quite rightly have gone out of their way to make sure that we were not going to get him. The amount that we offered was same as the one that villa had accepted. Fulham wanted more becuse it was us. We were not going to be robbed again. There is not an unlimited amount of money available. Simple. NOW BACK THE TEAM .
robbie

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:46:06
If you're going to the game on Sunday please don't boo people. We need to try to get Sahin to stay..

BthekingB

Who would we boo?

Completely agree. I just don't get the negativity towards certain players and previous managers. Don't people stop and think about the impact that this may have upon prospective signings? How many of you would respond positively to your manager and work colleagues constantly getting on your back when you're doing the best you can?

Ginger Rodgers

I totally agree! If anything, we need to convince Nuri to stay at Anfield

K.Bennett

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:44:31
Hi eds, we're obviously all baffled and personally I feel sick to the stomach that for the sake of paying a few million more than we wanted to the owners have shown such a lack of ambition.. for something that was a NEED!

The owners will be completely at fault if we have another terrible season in front of goal, even if we do the same as last year, they can't blame Rodgers one bit.

But now all is said and done we have to get on with it.. we have a solid defence and midfield, midfield definitely better than last year even if attack has gone from being average to very average in terms of strength in depth, so do you guys see Morgan playing more of a part this season now or Dani Pacheco?

It may just be too late by January to get anyone in, a very sad day.

Cheers eds, JATT-RED

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:33:31
Yesil is a super player. I'm fine with him signing and us not signing another striker. With the proper development, he can be great.
AnfieldUSA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:31:46
Since Pacheco's deal fell through would it be fair to assume he may get a chance to live up to all his previous promise? I for one hope he proves me wrong and shows he could handle the first team.

American Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:10:16
Ed can I ask, is it not possible to get players on loan outside the tranfare window? Or do you have to have exceptional circumstances to apply for a loan while window is shut ?? {Ed002's Note - Exceptional circumstances for a GK.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:10:00
This was obviously going to happen. Any new manager had to sell the previous regime's players before buying. Should have stuck with Kenny and tried to build on what we had rather than rebuild from scratch.

The Yonks still need to prove their intentions by building a new/renovated stadium.

Bill

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:09:15
Our owners remind me of my daughter who wont eat her dinner cos she has been grounded. She is being stubborn but she is the one who ends up starved! We sold Carroll ,Bellamy, Kuyt, Eccleston, Pacheco. Thats 5 strikers out. We bought Borini, Assaidi, Yesil. I remember we had a problem last year. Thats right..we couldnt score goals! So instead of adding strikers to the squad we have removed 5. We wouldnt pay 5.6m for Kevin Mirallas or 7m for dempsey. And now were going to have to sit in our bold room till January and cry!! Its not easy supporting Liverpool. Yer AnaI (Ian Ayre)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:07:25
If we fail to score against Arsenal on Sunday there should be a protest. FSG & IA OUT!

Evert on fan?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:06:15
Dani Pacheco is still with us Eds right? If he is then does that mean he would stay with us until January or is there any way he could leave still. I'm happy that at least he is still here as a strike option. Really hoping you can answer this eds. See you guys in January! Great work this summer.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:04:06
hey eds...good work today...lets just pray and hope suarez is not injured..i think they are trying to give youth a chance.which i pray works out

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:03:55
Hi guys,

Just heard from a friend (who is from Liverpool but not my normal source) that Brendan Rodgers is considering his future at LFC after recent events. Ian Ayre will be leaving the club very shortly aswell. It all started during pre season when he was promised funds to stamp his authority on the squad and these funds have not been granted. Rodgers has had to move people on before purchasing others as we all know. I heard Rodgers wanted to keep Aquilani but FSG refused to sanction Joe Allens move unless the wage budget was reduced. Same thing happened today but Chelsea refused Sturridge's loan and Dempsey was missed due to Ian Ayre's poor negotiations with Fulham. Still no real money spent on improving the squad.

My opinion is that FSG has got no real long term plan for the club (prime example is the delay the new stadium/Anfield extension) and by reducing wages they are effectively asset stripping to make a quick buck before they sell! The squad is no where near good enough so how can Rodgers be expected to compete in all comps.

Only thing which is looking bright is our youth/academy players!

Would love to hear your views guys


PAULMONDO YNWA (A very disappointed Liverpool fan)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:03:46
time to dust the banners of lads and get these yonks out.

welsh tom

You're the yonk

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:02:21
Liverpools treatment of Clint Dempsey was shameful. He could have moved to Villa but declined and stated he wanted to come to us. What did we do? Let him swing in the wind and then not buy him. Good luck at Spurs mate you dodged a bullet by not coming to these clowns.

Agree with the first bit of your post. I've been concerned by what appear to be some of the unethical antics of the club during the window, specifically the Allen and Dempsey negotiations. Obviously, I am not privy to the details but if what has been previously reported is true, then maybe the club deserves what it got. I feel that since Houllier left, much of the dignity of the club that has been developed since the 1960s and maybe before has evaporated. I know that times have changed but certainly some of the actions of the club have left me feeling distinctly uneasy. I imagine that Shankly and Paisley must be turning in their graves.

Ginger Rodgers

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:25:50
i am just as angry as every liverpool fan about today. but people need to give the owners a break. can you blame them for being careful with their money after spending around £80+ millon on Carroll Henderson Downing and Adam. imagine what they thought when we where offering fulam a 20 million pound young english player with great potential who could possibly have 9+ good seasons ahead of him (jordan henderson) PLUS! 4 million pounds! for a 29 year old who is worth around 7 million and has maybe 3 good seasons left in him ( clint dempsey). dont get me wrong i would of love to sign him. but thats ridiculous.

BigMan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:13:28
Suarez and Borini will have to step up their games and make sure they are not as wasteful as before, concentrate more once within the box and we might have to use Yesil sooner than we thought, Morgan too at least until January....kinda risky but doable! Owners made it harder for the team, sad to say, but after Comolli and KK, I understand they're being careful!

YNWA
HK

 

 

01 Sep 2012 02:11:08
Okay lets look at this two ways

Negatives

Only 2 senior forward players - Suarez and Borini - and both of these have a recent history of struggling to get enough goals.

Letting a senior striker leave, Carroll, and then proceeding to fail to bring in a replacement ( either the loans mentioned of Sturridge, Daimao (spelling)) or Dempsey.

It is worrying that having received a loan fee for Carroll ( either £1 to £2 million), fee for Adam (£4 to £5 million) plus the removal of wages for Carroll, Adam and Spearing that we offered only £4 million for what was at 6pm our only transfer target. A target that had stated we were his preferred destination as long as we could agree fee with Fulham. To know that Spurs got him for £6 million is galling - as for the sake of 2 million I would have preferred us to have just done the deal - as Dempsey would have provided good cover for RM and striker.

We are possibly only 1 injury ( or one ban in case of Suarez) away from a disaster.

After the wastefulness of Comoli and Dalglish era (£35m Carroll, £16m Hendo, £20m Downing, £7m Adam,) it is sad to think we missed out on a transfer target for £2million. (p.s. - £9m Coates and 6m Enrique and Bellamy free were good deals).

Cole not being sold.

Possibly Hendo disgruntled after being offered as a makeweight in Dempsey deal. (I also wonder what Carroll is thinking now as he will return in a years time.)

But lets not forget the positives.


1. We have kept hold of Reina, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Lucas, Gerrard, Suarez - all of which have attracted interest and which some media said we were destined to sell.

2. We have kept hold of Sterling who at close season was reported to be unhappy at failure to break into squad. He looks lik he will be a very important player for us now.

3. We have sold/released/temp loaned - Aurelio, Maxi, Kuyt, Adam, Spearing, Silva, Darby, Carroll, Eccleston, Aquilani, - out of all these players its only Carroll I wish we had kept hold of as others were at end of careers, others were nowhere near team and others were deadwood ( goodbye Aquilani).

4. We have bought some good young players - Yesil for £1m which might save us millions over next few years.

5. Useful players like Borini £11m and Assidi £3m - both young and replacements for Kuyt/Maxi/Bellamy.

6. Sahin - loan fee £3m - but a very good player and wouldnt have afforded a player of his ability on a perm deal.

7. Allen - £15m - but already looking a class act and only 21.

8. Promotion of youth - Sterling, Morgan, Yesil, Robinson will get a lot of playing time and we may bring forward others , Suso? - and whole team (Gerrard and Carra apart - now youthful).

9. Downing as a LB - turning a misfiring player into a valuable team/squad member and maybe boosting confidence.


So yes deadline day was a huge disappointment but the transfer window ( all 2 months) was not. Also if FSG were truly trying to make a quick buck they could easily have sanctioned sales for Suarez/Agger.

Also when Lucas returns from injury you can push Gerrard into the front 3 to alternate with Sterling to increase forward options.

so cmon WE are Liverpool - lets back team and manager and see where we can go this season.

YNWA

D 2308

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:51:40
So maxi kuyt eccleston Carroll out. Borini in. To fix our goal scoring drought. Only ones walking alone are our strikers.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:50:53
So we let go the following:

Bellamy ( GB Captain )
Kuyt ( cant stop scoring goals at his new club )
Maxi ( great player )
Carroll ( not given a chance despite his 35 million price tag ?)
Spearing ( good squad player )
Adam (quality left footed player )
Aquilani ( Italian international, quality midfielder )
etc....

We then attempt to offload players who will now lose all their enthusiasm because they know the club dont want them:

Henderson ( England U 21 Captain)
Cole
Pacheco

As a result, we now have TWO strikers and we have lost SEVEN top players in the process !!

What on earth is going on here ????? Surely someones head should roll here ?

Bitterly disappointed.... :-(

FSG may have stepped onto a bridge too far......

cannot see any positives so far ?

Tel 1949

Spearing and adam quality? ahem ahem.
Indian Buzzer

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:47:39
Disastrous day for Liverpool , totally gutted and let down ....again - much like BR i suspect !
We don't know what's gone on inside the club but i think this is the day FSG 's honeymoon period ended .
Realisation hits us hard and
Liverpool a laughing stock ...again !
Very depressed tonight .

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:47:35
After three messed-up transfer windows, the owners surely have to stand up and accept their share of responsibility for LFC starting a new season with only two senior strikers, when every other major team has at least four.

Are we still paying the price for the lunacy of jan 2011, and paying 35m for Andy C?

And after that in July 2011, King Kenny choosing decent but not great players, and in most cases paying at least 50% more than those decent players were actually worth?

Are the owners now so cautious that Ian Ayre doesnt even feel he can risk raising his bid for Dempsey by another million pounds to maybe 7 or 8m, without risking getting the sack?

Or is he so incompetent that he couldn't see that the increased fee Fulham wanted, although unfair, was actually still worth paying, in the light of Carroll being no longer in the squad?

When he was sitting across the table from the Fulham team, could he not see that for the sake of perhaps 1 or two million, LFCs entire season could now be at risk, and our already slim chances of a top four place now lie in ruins?

I'm astonished and saddened that FSG have set up a structure where their man at the negotiating table feels he has no leeway to raise his bid no matter what the the circumstances, even if an extra million could save our season.

For the first time since they arrived, I'm doubting the competency of J Henry and co. Three shambolic windows can no longer be blamed on Comolli, Dalglish, or even that spineless puppet Ayre.

We are now nearly two years into their reign- it is FSG who are now responsible for what happens this season.
How many mistakes are they going to make before they wise up and get a bit of perspective about when and how much it is appropriate to spend, instead of lurching from one extreme of throwing away 35m on Carroll to the other extreme of denying Rodgers a third striker for the sake of a million pounds? Where is the consistency? Where is the common sense?

In all honesty, even though they made a good choice in Rodgers, if they continue to hamstring his efforts, and to lose the club 40m of CL revenue for the want of an extra million on Dempsey, we would be better off under new, more shrewd, and more sensible owners.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:46:39
Owen to sign on a 6 month contract or a 1 year deal, not inside info, but i can't see it staying like this. Owen isn't great and he's not the player we had, but he could help.

Wish we kept Bellamy.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:46:33
23 million a year is a lot of money and on top of that there. Is all the money we lost on the sh#t players dalglish bought in . We lost money on Charlie Adam paid 35 million big andy it all adds up but I think we should of kept him because I don't think we will be scoring lots of goals I hope I'm wrong YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:45:39
Hey Eds...I'm a Liverpool supporter for the last 30 years and i've just realised what our beloved club has become.......a mediocre middle of the table club with no ambition.......Poor BR now knows the ship wreck he is caught up in......I think i speak on behalf of a lot of liverpool supporters (even tho i have no right to) when i say disappointment has now turned to anger..Please please please post so i might get some re-assurances from other readers.......
Unreal job ye are doing lads..Keep up the good work....

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:45:08
rumour has it we have no real strikers. and before you mention suarez, his shots to goal ratio is stinking

lurganite

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:42:46
I just hope BR dosen't walk, cause I would'nt blame him if he did. He was made to look likea tit.
joe Gallagher

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:42:27
I dnt tink I wil b extendin my Livapool contrct as a FAN afta dis dispointin tranfer deadline negotitions by Mr Ayre! I hv 2 check all d offers on my table and c where my future lies. Although it cud stil b at Anfield bt am nt so sure yet. I wil let u guys knw wen I mk wot seems to b d biggest decision of my CLUB SUPPORTING CAREER! Pls note dat it's nt abt d money bt abt d club being able to match my ambition. I wnt to sing,shout,clap and cheer in d champions league and also win TROPHIES!!
Djoe.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:40:16
It's an absolute disgrace that we have allowed players to leave before we have replacements confirmed, who is responsible for that kind of decision. In any business you surely ensure you have enough people in place to cover basic tasks, we take great care in preparing handovers when we go on holiday and only allow so many people off on holiday at the same time. The same principals must apply here, Kuyt gone, Carrol gone, Maxi gone (anyone forgotten his goals to game ratio when he did play), no but wait it's OK we have Suarez, let's hope he doesn't do a Evra, or god forbid Joey Barton and get another long ban! It's ok though guys we have Borini.
Sorry I know, I should always back the club, I love this club and will never ever stop believing but this is possibly our lowest point ever especially letting Dempsey go to Tottenham. Sturridge and Walcott were pipe dreams never going to happen. Who will be on the bench on Sunday, ridiculous!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:40:13
Seriously FSG so many out and very little in
I know about the finances but wow at least 6 people in and around the first team gone

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:40:09
Would never post normally as I'm still of the belief that the closed door is our the lfc way! But am I on my own thinking another year half season of being toothless up front ... Hope I'm wrong but top ten if we are lucky!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:40:09
Well at least we'll get to see more of Suso, Shelvey, Sterling,Robinson, Morgan and that German lad... Hope we'll make it to to January unscathed.

Keith YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:58:54
Michael Owen ---- no thanks...but i'll take robbie fowler for now...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:39:15
ed do you think there is any chance of owen? and im absolutely fuming at the owners theyve let rodgers down big time! {Ed019's Note - Yes unfortunately }

Do you mean to say we might actually sign that traitor Ed? Seriously?

Sj

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:36:11
would like to say well done eds/Macca for this great site.

also eds are we really this scint

deano

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:30:22
I heard from someone not long ago that FSG are good at managing fan expectation...

I expect to see on LFC's website aoon, Agger signing a new contract which will be used as a way of softening the blow as it were.

I won't be falling for it.

Lets chuck Yasil in there and see if he can bang them in for us, u never know.

All i know is i wont be getting much sleep tonight because we was 1 goal scorer away from a top 4 finish...cant see it now. Suarez, sahin, etc wont stay if we dnt get it this season.

Cant believe they mugged BR and fans like this...In BR I trust.

Shak Attack

You can't just chuck a 17 year old kid in and hope for the best. It's not fair.

Ash

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:29:00
Eds will pacheco get a squad number, always look decent in pre season never gets a shot, can you give any info, also do u think players such as suso ibe texiera will move into first team cover, thanks

Gingerviking

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:27:28
Honestly what just happend I think we need to sign someone who knows how to sign a player for what there worth before we even bother looking at anymore players for jan why the puk did we let ac go seriously undermanned with the team we have we need a early exit out of all cups to concentrate on the league that was embarrassing what ever happend to carrol won't leave if we can't get a replacement

KC

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:27:24
hi eds quick question do u think we mite take michael owen on a pay as ye play deal he wud b a decent player to bring off bench if we needed a goal just a thought.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:25:03
Eds or any one please tell me where can i find the list of free agents.


AJI

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:24:09
Posted a few times ed. I think that at 9.30-10 pm deadline day. When we walked away from Dempsey and failed to sign any striker. The yanks condemned us to a season of pure frustration and toil. Feel sorry for Rodgers at the complete tosh he was fed when he took over. The fans at now having to support a team that has not been given the help required by an owner. And the lads, as they have to work very hard to make the season positive. I feel let down more than anything. If fergie wanted a striker. He got rvp, spurs got Dempsey, we have unproven borini, and suarez is not gonna score 25 goals a season.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:23:10
Dissapointed ? .... for sure !

I cannot believe that LFC have loaned out our £35 million pound striker and replaced him with NOBODY ?

We have only two recognised strikers in Borini and Suarez.... so much for Brendan playing 4-3-3

Last season we had Carroll, Kuyt, Suarez and we really struggled.

We now dont even have 3 strikers ?

Who on earth has cocked this up ?

Absolute disgrace, very very disillusioned

Tel 1949

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:14:43
I'm thinking we're not over-reacting enough. Anyone fancy immolating themselves down in front of Anfield or Melwood tomorrow?

Yeah, I'm disappointed we didn't get a striker, and someone needs a serious talking to and perhaps their P45 over it (Ian Ayre, I'm looking in your general direction), but writing off the season over it? C'mon fellas. People were floating a few days ago over the City performance.

And by the way, Clint Dempsey is not the 'natural goalscorer' we need in any case. He scored plenty last season, but he's not an out and out striker any more than Gerrard was when he was hitting 20 a season. And that's what we need. He'd have been a very good player to have in the squad given we're a bit light in our front three, but wouldn't have been the ultimate solution to our prolifigacy.

- Something Red -

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:09:49
Dont know why everyones having a dig at FSG they made us a debt free club and gave daglish a sh@t load of money to spend and it got squandered aint there fault (I aint pointing my finger at daglish btw) but as much as i like rodgers and the way we are playing football under him and also players he has brought in i think he should of gone for someone like a jordan rhodes rather the dempsey but business should be done at the beginning of the transfer window cause if left to late were left in the **** like we are now strenght in depth in midfield but lack of firepower upfront, jus put adam morgan on against arsenal hes good enough and will only get better.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:07:14
Before everybody puts all their hopes on sahin remember

1. he had a lot of injuries last year and is a long way from being match fit, partcularly for the Premier league

2. He has never played in the Premier league and therefore will need time to adapt. Wenger says it takes 1/2 to a full season for doing that.

3. Once he has adapted he will piss off because he is wanted at Real madrid and if they don't want him he will want to go to a Champions League side.

Orrin

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:06:50
On a brighter note, we are in a transition season with Brendan under no demands or guarantees from the owners. Which is quite handy seeing as they've left him with a mountain to climb, especially if we get an injury to Suarez or stevie!
Right, on to the brighter note-Samit yesil, suso, adorjan, ngoo, sama, wisdom & ibe could all be knocking on the door of the 1st team over the next year with a few others and I'd expect jerome Sinclair not to be too far behind them.
A little lack of depth this year could result in the emergence of a couple of youngsters earlier than expected, over to you suso lad. It could be your time son
S.p

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:06:31
Feel sorry for Rodgers having to pay for the bill that the previous regime has stuck him with. He has to manage the squad properly now - field the kids for the CO cup and the Europa League, just focus on the Premiership. Singred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:58:49
Ok so we've missed out on a striker and I'm just as disapointed and dumbfounded as anyone else with this. It's happened now so best we can do is look at our options available when one of either Borini and Suarez get injured, suspended or suffering a loss of form.

1. Firstly we can employ Gerrard forward, he enjoyed a spell there with Torres and it proved successful, yes he's older now but could still do it easily.

2. Secondly we have Morgan yes he's still raw and inexperienced but hopefully that will come with time, and the appropriate guidance from the staff and squad.

3. We can sign a free agent. I know the rumours are already rife that we will get Owen, but he's not the only striker available in world football so there could be another striker out there who is a viable option.

4. Another youngster could burst onto the scene.
We have a number of top young strikers on our books, and maybe just one of these will break through this season. Like Sterling has,and like Kelly before him. We have the likes of Ngoo who is currently doing really well too.
We have also just bought the German youngster Yesil who could break through straight away.

5. We still have Pacheco. Although he hasn't been getting any gametime of late, but he could still do a job for us if given a chance. The lad still young and I'm sure he's capable of scoring some goals if he gets some games.

Think we still need to start looking at the positives instead of the negatives. For years now on this site I've read "we need to give the youngsters a chance "well it looks like we are gonna be doing that this season.

Jonesred

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:58:36
Macca was right..no money unless AC was sold..he wasnt..so nobody in...no goalscorer..i dont know wot think now..i was buzzing earlier

atlfc70

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:58:02
Any other frees you know of worth looking at other than the likes of Owen and Babel Eds? Can't help but feel if we're hit by injury we're incredibly short up top.

Cheers,

Jack

(You've all done a quality job throughout the window by the way, think I speak for most when I say it's much appreciated.)

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:57:21
Ok window closed. Now for football.
Everyone giving out cause Andy Carroll gone but wtf did he ever do that was so great?? Half a dozen good games in a year and a half?? Time to wise up people. We have some good players and some good young players who might get a chance to make names for themselves. I would of liked a new striker but I do think we will be ok with who we have. Just gotta have faith. We didn't lose anyone who was gonna play regularly or make a big difference so nothing lost.
I'd just like to thank the ed's now for all their work and putting up with all the needless abuse they get. Good job lads!! YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:56:06
An explanation from the owners would be nice, just clarify what happened. Everyone around us has strengthened in this window (mostly from us) we needed goal scorers, why didn't we get any? Being held to ransom is not an excuse! Everton, spurs, stoke and Sunderland will all push us for league position.
I can confirm that we had 2 medicals reserved at the hospital with the lfc & hospital staff
M15rk

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:55:52
Was really confident that we would get 4th with Dempsey and Walcott/Sturridge coming in. Now I see us struggling, Spurs have spent well. I believe Dembele and Lloris are absolute coups for the price they paid. Ian Ayre has let us down badly if we had the money for Dempsey then we should have signed him atleast. Hope he gets the sack and we get someone decent like David Dein or Brian Barwick in. And if the owners are to blame then I clearly question there ambitions for the club.

Cheers,
Hassan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:55:14
we needed to strengthen in cerain positions and instead we weakened.
We are going to play 70 plus games with no World-Class strikers....Borini,Morgan and Suarez won't get us progress.
I'm depressed.
We are all gutted at FSG aren't we?
Don't blame Brendan.
ANFIELDPETE

P.S. Where's the new stadium ????

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:54:40
does our current front 3 situation mean world beaters like cole and pacheco will get a look in?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:54:15
Unfortunately another shambles of a transfer window conducted by LFC. We have now let go Aurelio, Kuyt, Maxi, Bellamy, Aquilani, Spearing, Adam and Carroll. We have replaced them with Allen, Borini, Sahin and Assaidi. So we are 4 players down on a squad that Rodgers said was thin when he first became manager. So how does anyone think we are top 4 contenders? FSG are clueless just like the rest of the American owners in the Premier League. At this rate we will end up like the Villa.

Very disappointed LFC fan. YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 01:00:37
Bad day at the market at least we held onto cole and pacheo,some back up on the wings at least.

G.Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:53:32
This is going to be a very long season without a striker, why do we do this to ourselves. I am at a loss, defo no top 4 this season so again no champs league, so again no money next season for players, a vicious circle we may not now get out of. I feel totally deflated, I really am in shock here, £4 million for Dempsey what a joke.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:53:09
Well thanks eds you've all put in a shift since the season ended, we cant blame you that we haven't got anyone but I would prefer Ed0052 controlling our transfers seems to have an eye for talent and do more scouting work than all of our scouts combined.
Andrew

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:52:24
John Henry, Tom Werner / Broke back mountain...
Sorry my mistake somebody actuality scored in that one.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:52:04
This might sound ridiculous but it also may not be, Did WHU pay a fee for Carroll, if not is there a possibility we could recall him from his loan?
Iceman

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:51:52
Looking at our squad as it stands, I think we are 1 or maybe 2 light up front, and thats it.
Sterling, Assaidi, Suarez, Borini, we then have Downing (our new left back!) and Cole (who we thought would be gone by now). If any of those get injured we may have to rely on Yesil, or Morgan until January. Gerrard could also play there at a push though.
Looks like the owners were playing hardball with Fulham, but is that not what we want having overpaid last summer?
I like BR, the fact he has a clear strategy and in the main is lowering the age (and wage bill) of the squad. As he says himself this may take a few windows to get right.
Have faith people.
YNWA.

The Jackal.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:50:59
From the Guardian Web site...

"Right, so no Dempsey, (thankfully) no Sturridge, and Liverpool are looking a tad light up front. If Suarez is injured and/or racist, they could be in trouble."

Thought the Suarez comment was quite clever...

O.K. back to fuming at LFC and the lack of signings today....we gonna suck soooooo bad! It will be so embarrassing when the likes of Reading, Swansea, QPR and Norwich kick our a*sses! :(

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:50:46
Hi eds,Macca and fellow reds fans.If we dont sign anybody we will just have to promote from the u21 squad ie Morgan,Amoo and hopefully we can steer clear of injuries and come Jan be still in the hunt for CL places,Borini will come good and score his fair share of goals.It is not ideal if we dont sign a replacement for AC but we just have to deal with it.
Thanks for getting me through this window and look forward to the rest of the season.I still think we will sign someone tonight but if not so be it.

Eric The Real Red

Y.N.W.A

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:50:28
I am really disappointed for tonight and I am Sure comes jan we would be 10th in the table. I blame BR for this because :
1. He told owners that he don't want Director of Sport who would have advice the owner better on transfer policy.
2. He send players out without ready made replacement. Same mistake to when we let alonso go without someone to replace him.Happy Day?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:50:04
Look, we're all a bit disappointed that nothing happened on the last day, but if you look at what we brought in over the summer, it looks not too bad. I think Sahin is going to be boss, Allen looks like he was made for us, and Borini looks a prospect. I don't see Dempsey tearing up trees for spurs, like he wouldn't have done for us. Ayre might have ballsed up, but the owners have stated time and time again that we will be working with a business model and you can't fault them for sticking to it. We have what will get us to January, no doubt of that. So sleep on it, and it will look smarter in the morning
ferd

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:49:35
Eds any truth in Michael Owen rumours? It's mind boggling that we let Carroll go and not bring in a replacement?

Gibzkit.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:48:50
andy caroll out and no replacement its a joke were are the goals coming from 3 out 0 in thats top4 out the window was the owners not watching last season we needed top class finisher.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:48:37
man u lost title to 1 goal-answer, buy epl top scorer for 25 mil/ even when theyre skint
liverpool were maybe 20-30 goals behind them-answer= sign decent midfield player, a winger nobodys heard of, another promising midfielder with no option to buy for nearly 10 mil and an 18 year old german striker again thats never been heard of, sounds promising,

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:48:17
Not only does our team seem weak, all the other teams have improved making the league even tougher. Add to that we're adapting to a new style and trying to introduce youth. It's gonna be either a season of miracles or one of the worst seasons in recent years.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:47:57
So how soon can we get Carroll back?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:47:20
Firstly I want to thank all the ED's who took time to keep us up to date.

Now I want to say I am very disappointed in the transfer deadline day, I do think we have signed some good players Allen will be great for us. However we needed a out and out goal scored somebody to get 15-20+ a season. What worries me is that our only senior strikers will be expected to start every important game(Suarez and Borini).

Admittedly I think I was getting a bit unrealistic of getting my personal favourite target Damiao I think that he would have be excellent for us.

I think FSG have left us to rely too much on the youth this season, Sterling was fantastic vs city however can we expect him to do that week in week out? I also like Morgan however can we really rely on him to score goals in my opinion he is too young to be put in that position.

What if god forbid Suarez or Borini get injured or banned? We will be in trouble!

I think now the goal has to be put the strongest possible line up every week for the league while letting the youth try in the cups.

We struggled last year to find goals which will be the problem this season or at least until January, I love LFC and will always support them I did think we could push for top 4 with a striker it will be a lot harder now I do still think its possible and we have a strong 11 but it will be tough.

I don't know where the blame should be placed for our lack of players, as far as I understand FSG/Ayre were just not willing to budge on the price for Dempsey is that the case?

Could any of the ed's clear up what happened with the following:

Damiao : As far as I know we stumbled on the wages if that the case?

Sturridge : No idea what happened there was it just chelsea not being able to bring in replacements?

Walcott : Again no idea


Thanks again ED's whether or not you answer you have at least kept us informed of what's happening.

Thanks!

Rk {Ed002's Note - I was surprised that a deal for Dempsey was not made. Damiao was never an option. Walcott would need someone else to answer as I knew nothing of the matter.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:47:09
Massive massive error...... No back up striker midfield that don't score goals. Dempsey 6 million 17 goals last season! Downing? How many did he score? 16million! Fsg have seriously made a huge mistake. We now only have Adam
Morgan as 2nd choice striker! Not saying he won't come good but it's to early for this lad! Borini will run all day but cannot finish I have watched this kid ain't strong enough for the prem! Rant over fsg pull your finger out

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:46:11
finally we see what FSG is really made of..
one genius move happened though...for the young german...he made the right choice to join us..now hes in the front seats behind suarez instead being just another youth signing...good luck young yesil..

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:46:00
1. Credit to the few posters who said that we wouldn't sign anyone. They got knocked down at the time but unfortunately they were right.
2. You can't directly blame FSG for the problems. They appoint a managerial team and then its up to them to do the deals. Also the total investment, since they came in, has been pretty good, but we've pissed it away.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:43:50
Liverpool in a SENSETIONAL after transfer deadline swoop for Gary Linker! He is eligable as he is NOT contracted to any club and can be signed up at any time. Liverpool feel he will bring lots of experience and have insisted they pay BBC money for him, even tho they dont have too. LFC have insisted in paying money for his services as they want to keep their tradition of paying a lot in recent years. Liverpool have also inquired after former arsenal great...Alan Smith to form a DEAD..ly partneship with Linker.
Watch this space....LFC have Bruce Groblar in sight as pepe making too many mistakes.
Mike
Uvbindoopd

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:42:45
My wife and kids went to bed tonight because I was so excited about the transfer window I have left my family down and I think lfc have left the fans down
I feel sorry for br he has a tough job after 30years goodbye Liverpool And goodbye footballb

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:42:43
Not saying it will happen but I for one would love to have Owen on a pay as you play. I cried when I found out he left (I was about 10). I would be delighted to see him come home and don the shirt that made him famous. For off the bench 7 in 52 is not bad.
Andrew

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:42:15
Did we at least hold on to Pacheco? He has to remain a better option than Cole in a front 3...

TravisLeeLFC

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:42:09
if FSG where relying on Ayre...is this a case of Ayre not preforming of FSG not providing the cash required?

and what does it mean for Ayres job security?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:42:04
I feel sorry for Brendan Rodgers been told lies by the yanks wouldn't blame him if he resigned. The club is a shambles

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:39:34
Sorry Clint

We Come Not To Spend !

Ayre and FSG have rightly stitched BR up and I would say he is a very pissed off man right now

With him being a big man of principals, it would not surprise me if he walked out on LFC and, although I love LFC with every morsel of my being, I can't say I'd blame the man.

Mr Henry, Mr Werner and Mr Ayre hang your heads in shame, u dropped the ball big time tonight (no pun intended, sorry Pepe)

Gussy

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:39:21
why would brendan bank on aloan signing of sturridge when chelsea have only two recognised strikers in torres and sturridge. was he letting carroll go praying for chelsea to sign someone to understudy for torres so that we could have sturridge

this seems like idiocy to me, banking on another club to do business for us

tom1975

Dont think it was rodgers doing.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:38:54
Ed wat has really got me is the fact in the last couple on transfer windows good strikers have been available and we haven't even acted on it. Just look at Moyles he signs 2 good strikers in 2 windows for not earth shattering money, Keflavik for about 6m I think and now miralles for around the same both know where the net is and we spend 11 m on borini which I must say may be good business in time to come but we have needed a striker for time now. I honestly don't think that FSG know what thee doing am I'm really dissappointed, Also with BR why let AC leave on loan and have no cover for him wat a joke.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:38:27
I have to say I am very disappointed with the owners and Ian Ayre. The owners say football is about scoring goals but with two strikers playing a 433 we are short. God forbid if Suarez was to get injured last season was bad enough for goals yet now we have less choice, this is very worrying. People say we spent big under KD yet what we sold covered for a lot of it. In January when we desperately needed a striker we got nothing. This summer we have spent in all £29 Million which some of it was covered by sales. Yes FSG bought us out of bankruptcy and our wage bill if a lot less than what it was. But under them we have failed to fill the whole of which Torres left, Suarez is fantastic but hes creative. My worry is who is going to score the goals and how across all competitions are we going to cope? People are so worried that they are calling for the traitor himself Owen, others I see on Twitter are calling for Fowler to come out of retirement or have looked at the Drogba thing falling through and are hoping we can sign him, something I believe wont happen as one his wages are massive and 2 he'd go back to Chelski. Which brings me too my next thought, after Ian Ayre messed up today do we really need his rash decisions come January? I say someone has to go for the mess that was deadline day, I feel sorry for BR as hes been made to look stupid. One thing I dont get is if we dont have money why let Carroll go on loan sell him to raise it or keep him and if the replacement is landed he can be loaned? Ed's is the loan window closed too or is their an extra week like we had in January? These are worrying times and I hope we can get through it and the kids step up but their seems to be a lot of pressure on Suarez now like their had been in the past for Gerrard. Also the kids are under pressure as their role has become a lot more important, this worries me as a lot of them have a lot to learn still.

JD

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:37:52
I think FSG sabotaged this deal deliberately because as Macca made clear they didnt want Dempsey.
They left Dempsey out to dry.
What will future potential LFC prospects make of this as i worry it could damage us for the future.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:36:26
So the team that drew 1-1 with Hearts at Anfield, don't need to strengthen their squad?
What an absoloute kick in the nuts today has been.
We have become a mid table team with no ambition what so ever.
Look who Tottenham have signed and we do nothing.
Does anybody think that we will struggle to match last seasons 8th place (which is no where near go enough).

totally disappointed and despondent.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:36:04
lol wellcome to the real world of running a football club prudently also thanx must go to mr.k.dalglish for spending money like it grows on tree,s and leaving another football club in a much worse state than he found it,thanx ken

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:35:49
Really disappointed, there's no way Carroll should have gone until we had a replacement in place. Just pray we don't get an injury up front!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:35:45
Tonight I must say I felt really let down by the owners and Ian Ayre, in fact that is an understatement, it's sickening to think that all the other clubs have strengthened and the 1 place we needed a player and they f**k up BIG time. But the blame cannot go on BR and we all have to get behind the team till January when hopefully Ayre will be gone and we can dig deep to maybe buy Llorente for 8-13m. Lastly Ed's could you tell us what happened with Damiao deal? Was it wages that was the problem?

Thanks

Irish redman

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:35:26
Whilst I agree that we are short on strikers and goalscorers, people need to realise that this club is a work in progress and will be for another couple of years. Whilst I don't agree with missing out on Dempsey due to not making funds available to Rogers, you must see that the owners have got to be pretty pissed with having bought Carroll, Henderson, Downing and Adam for a combined total of £80M (yes I understand we got £55M back for Torres and Babel) and they have done absolutely nothing for the club since they arrived.We have spent around £50M net since the owners arrived, and managed to cut the wages down. It is frustrating not having signed a recognised striker and letting one go out on loan, but at this point (apart from signing a free agent) the only thing we can do as fans is get behind the team and the manager. YNWA

I agree, and J Cole is still there on £5.5ml per annum. Still a bit of sorting out to do

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:35:20
Hi guys not a rumour but a pause for thought, i like most of you have been through the mill today and close to kicking the telly in, but if you look at our midfield it is up their with the best of them, and didn't spain just win the euros without relying on a striker, and a certain barca use that system too..so where as i think we were mugged by our own owners, there is a silver lining...get some of the new boys into the team...and sed how we get on....just a thought. Mannie.

Get real mate were no were near barcas caliber in midfield how hard can it be to sign one f...ing striker on deadline day spurs done in one hour what we coudnt do all summer. total b......s thats what i think.

gee man

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:33:47
Really disappointed, there's no way Carroll should have gone until we had a replacement in place. Just pray we don't get an injury up front!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:33:15
so now we got an even smaller squad.... i quess we must settle as a mid team now, cause this is goin nowhere

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:33:10
Ask yourselves this why did the American owners buy our club in the first place Was it for the love of the club or was it because they bought it cheap and seen an opportunity to sell for a big profit I no which I believe shameful the new hicks and gillet

You thought they loved Liverpool FC, it's money but there philosophy is that success brings in more bucks so they commit to getting the revenue's in to invest to see the success. They've been kicked in the teeth with Downing, Carroll, Henderson and Adam and will be very cautious about who they buy from now on...

Oh, they want to make money.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:30:02
id say only for allen arriving this transfer window like last one, was a complete disaster. not quick enough, usuall yanks think theyre smater than everyone else, if we cant get the goals with suarez n AC then hows it possibal with only 1
hope BR gets a magic wand for xmass

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:32:36
I feel awful for Rogers the guy has obviously been had.

It seemed like he was leaving putting every faith to others in signing a couple of players.

The man stated that he would give his life to make Liverpool better. Its too bad others within the club don't have that same passion.

The man has a serious job to do until January. Most fans will be doubting him now more than ever and he has to overcome that.

Rogers can't really publically blame the owners and Board for the lack of transfer activity so I suppose he is going to have to accept he could well be the Scapegoat.

N.I Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:32:11
Not a rumour just like to say this is a sad day for us no signings when we quite clearly need at least 2 looks like FSG are not intrested in the club at all i feel like we have fallen behind everton and will finish no higher than 8th am absolutly gutted about this


gavthered

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:32:11
Now after we missed out on every single striker , could we go for owen , babel , raul ? i think they'd be better than nothing

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:30:19
our owners are pure rubbishe if im being honest. broken promise to brendan rodgers and us fans

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:29:54
I hope yesil is good because I reckon he is carrolls replacement ....wtf is fsg doing ....no better than other yanks I had high hopes ....i bet Rodgers is loving this ......

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:29:24
FSG - We Come Not To Pay

No, we come not to spend 100,000millions a year and put the club in masses of debt and buy players irresponsibly as is what they must feel happened last year.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:28:29
Well it looks like the final day of transfers has left us with a smaller/weaker squad than we started with. I can only presume that this was expected and BR is happy with the remaining squad of players.

I was there Sunday and yes we played really well BUT cannot see that amount of effort being available from a small squad in all competitions! To play this high energy game will not be possible in the league, europa and cup games so can see us drafting in under 21's to play in cups. OK till we play top teams.

A little worried to say the least. Looking forward to a club statement tomorrow.

Keep up the good work!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:30:58
Warrior slogan "We came not to play" has BR decided this is best achieved without players? I hope that we are not struggling by January.
#19

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:28:45
if our owners have messed up the dempsey deal well quite frankly they should come out and apologize because they had all the time i the world to sign a striker and still failed not good enough.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:28:03
Okay, that's it! I can't take anymore of this!

I have been posting on this site for 18 months~2 years and have always supported the men in charge!

We've had more downs than ups in the last few years but I don't think I've ever felt how I do right now!

I feel like crying!

This is terrible!

I admit it....I've been having blind faith!

Eds, great job as always! And Macca too! Love you always!

K.Bennett

Have you been drinking....:-) Love you to K.Bennett!

Only kiddin' I can tell you are passionate and love the club. I don't think this is as bad as we think... really.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:27:51
So where are all the goals going to be coming from. Very, very disappointing FSG, cheapskate yanks. Its going to be a long-long season.
Forget about top 4, because it won't happen.
You can't wage war against a enemy with limited firepower.
So much for FSG's supposed commitment to 'building', its all a lot of sh*t!.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:27:22
Just wanna cheer you up Eds and Macca

Terrific job you guys have been doing and I believe you'll continue to do so :)

I'm proud of the boys we have right now...totally behind Brendan's Liverpool ! ..Y.N.W.A

Goodnight,

Indian Kopite Suhas

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:27:11
Ed, what a total disappointment today has been. Once again Ian Ayre to blame, we can all see he is a anchor dragging the club down why can't the owners?

£7m for Dempsey not stumped up...what a joke.
We are stuck with 2 strikers, one who can
create but can't score the other who is 21 and trying to settle into a new team, very very silly Mr Ayre.
Why can't they see he is bad for the club?
I hope we win Sunday, big call but our season could rest on this 1 game.,we have to win.
Let's get behind the team on Sunday and chant Ian Ayre out.

Cheers
Aussie Red

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:26:53
am i right in thinking ryan babel can still sign for liverpool after deadline day eds? got to be worth a punt surely

Ryan Babel has signed a 1 year deal with Ajax

Signed for ajax on a years deal

He re-joined ajax

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:26:19
Ed why the hell do Spurs get special dispensation to sign Joao Moutinho? Absolute tosh. There is deadlines for a reason and just because they were stupid enough to leave it to the last day is their problem. Sorry just so frustrated at Liverpools lack of activity..
Blanco7.. {Ed002's Note - They won't.}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:26:02
That was embarrassing. Osama assaidi needs to be one hell of a player otherwise we are going to be in for another very long season

The squad is good enough to handle the pressures until the January transfer window.

Sahil P

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:25:06
the owners are only interested in making the club profitable and then selling it. Us fans were romanticized and blinded into believing this would happen by signings of new players and major investment. However, like most American business owners the manner in which they make a club profitable is not by attacking the main issue i.e. investing enough to make us champions league contenders but by cutting costs and reducing excess spending. Look at General Motors for an example. They survived profitably for decades squeezing the absolute max out of limited resources. They fired workers to keep accounts in balance and provide the illusion they were making a profit.

This short term ism is often seen in the business world were profits are made by reducing the companies costs and not by innovative ideas ( in the case of GM better cars). This is the very way Henry has decided he will make Liverpool profitable. He reduces the wage bill massively by selling stars i.e Torres and bringing in long term cheap assets on low wages - Henderson who occasionally turn out to be class - Allen Suarez. In reducing wage costs the company runs down its bills and seems more profitable to outside investors. FSG get a fair amount of money, BUT our club is even further away from where we want to be due to the unwillingness to spend any money on class e.g Dempsey. Normally I am quite a positive poster (use the archives if you don't believe me) but this transfer window has totally shaken my confidence in the owners.

thanks for reading guys if you did and any views would be appreciated,

Ernest Redding

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:24:52
Disappointed we didn't get a striker, but over all pretty happy with the window.
We are in much better shape as a club and if lady luck stays close at hand until January, I still see very good things ahead.
I can understand the frustration, but I don't think it is all doom and gloom that majority of posters seem feel.
Looking forward to the season.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:24:52
Bananarama tune.

Joe Allen, Joe Allen
Hey hey hey, Joe Allen.

Na na, na na na na,
Hey hey hey , Joe Allen.

Could work with Nuri Sahin too :)

Billy Mc

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:24:08
I don't know why everyone is surprised I mean this happens all the time we haggle over a couple of million and eventually lose out anyway. We really need to have a long look at the people who are responsible for negotiating these deals because lets be honest they are rubbish

Would you have been saying the same thing if (like last year) we paid over the odds for players? Al-Fayed: 'We would like £6,000,000 for Clint'. Commoli & Daglish 'Hell no! That's insulting...Here's £15,000,000'. I am glad that we're trying to play hardball with other clubs. Just because we're Liverpool football club does not mean we have to pay over the odds for players.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:23:44
The only thing i can think of that we did not sign a striker and attacking winger forward is that we will get them cheaperin january i.e. walcott and so forth with short term contract left....still very surprised and really dissappointed as all the scoucers are tonight no clinical goa lscorer bought or even loaned in!
We have 4 comps this year the league, europa, fa cup and capital one cup. There is no way Luis Suarez and Fabio Borini are going to play every game as they most likely will start most games...or maybe it shows that Rodgers knows Adam Morgan is a goalscorer and can be our new Robbie Fowler..he is not an attacking winger cutting in on his left foot..he is a pacey striker that is direct and finishes so play him in his proper position...put suarez on the left and leave him float...I am really irritated we have signed nobody and my final thought is does Rodgers see the pool as spain played the euros as possession of midfield players and no strkier ..one that can float? All the rest of you scoucers thoguhts are welcomed and also to you eds..thanks for keeping us all posted today

Shane

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:23:19
I'm can't believe we missed out on Dempsey!! This is poor managing as we let Carroll go!! Eds can we get anyone else in on loan or is it wait till Jan?

Please post and answer

Redman 10

From what I can tell, Fulham made sure Dempsey did not sign for us for the way we handled the situation at the start of the window. They would rather sell him on to another club then to accept defeat.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:23:18
Well well eh, real support from fsg that's it as far as I'm concerned they knew we needed fire power desperately they knew we spent an entire season struggling to hit the back of the net and they wouldn't give us the money to turn that around, shocking! their was all us fans thinking about damio or llorente and they wouldn't even stump up 6 mill for dempsey I'm in complete shock, so now we have to limp on till Jan with no Carroll who was starting to show promise at the back end of the season! I'm sure people will try and sugar cote this but It's a disgrace rodgers must be wondering what he's taken on! 4th place you must be joking!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:22:53
Have been shocked by LFC 3 or 4 times in the last 2 years or so. The H&G fiasco, The Torres-Carroll deadline day dealings, Kenny's sacking and the last 4 or 5 days of this transfer window.

I understand trimming the fat. I understand financial responsibility and I also understand making hard decisions for the long term future. 70% wages to turnover was way too high. I really like BR and what I've seen and heard from him so far in his short tenure. He's brought in Allen, Sahin, Assaidi, Borini & Yesil. He's give Sterling, Robinson and Morgan a chance. All good so far.
But letting Carroll go before a replacement was brought in was sheer lunacy. BR may have thought that we had a couple of replacements lined up and left it in Ayre's hands to close the negotiations out, but surely it will be nearly impossible for both of them to work together another day based on the lack of movement today.
Personally I think BR has been sold out by the owners and the Managing Director. To be left so short of cover in the forward position for such a club is scandalous. BR will be judged on his league form. If I were him, I would send the kids to the Hawthorns for the League Cup game. I'd send a blend of youth and fringe seniors to the Europa league ties and simply play our best strongest available in the league games from now until the next window. FSG and Ayre have tied his hands. A blind man could see that there aren't enough goal scorers in this squad.
So stunned. I hope Brendan stays but wouldn't be one bit surprised if he walked. Gutted just simply gutted.

Chi-Paul

On loan so we can recall if needed whilst giving Carroll what he wants, a chance to play and if he turns it around he could increase his value as a player making it easier to sell next year and recoup more money.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:22:38
ed, does it seam the yesil guy will play apart this season, considering we're lacking in front?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:22:27
Wonder if we'll all fall for this s**** in January aswell.
Cripes knows who they'll try & sell then.
Probably be Suarez, Lucas & Sterling out.
Andy Wilkinson & Barry Bannan in.

Mick D

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:22:21
On a day that L.F.C. fans felt there was a lot of hope, it seems the dead wood was partly cleared BUT the owners didnt pull through. The reason I am writing this is, if things get rough before Jan, please dont blame B.R. He has done what we wanted, i.e.tried to introduce good football and got rid of said players. It is not his fault the owners didnt back him. The last thing we need is pressure on the manager and knee jerk reactions, because then we really have lost what Liverpool is and become just another mid table club that has lost its way. Maybe the young Turkish Striker will pull through, he seems to have slipped under the radar!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:21:50
Eds, it's been a long and disappointing night...are only options are know free transfer, I've scouted leagues here is the ones I got- (free agents) van nistelroy,del perio,kanoute,Ruben,castoro, and ex players. M.owen and Ryan babel... Interested to know who use and fellow fans would take out of this unwanted crop.... I say babel or rud..

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:21:29
Wow what a let down deadline day was! Is it just me or is everyone else a little confused about letting Caroll (35mil) go on loan but not being able to afford Dempsey (7mil).

Let me put this to you all. Suarez gets injured or suspensed and Borini is a bit sore and can't play. This is a very possible situation. Who do we play upfront? Assaidi isn't a striker. Adam Morgan and new boy Yesil? Don't get me wrong both may be our main strikers in years to come but not now.

We were already struggling for goals and we seem to have no depth at all now.

Does anyone think its worth offering a 1 year contract to Owen or Carew just for some depth? Cause i am really concerned.

Geoff

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:20:47
This may be a stupid question, and possibly already been answered, but does the Carroll loan have a recall option?

Cheers Eds

Joe

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:20:39
Michael Owen anyone? Rather him than nothing

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:20:16
I hope FSG realise what a complete mess they have created. I hope they and us don't end up regretting their actions......

ConnorsLFC

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:19:56
FSG have pulled the wool over the eyes of brendan rodgers , as an intelligent man he would have realized that our squad would of and is now down to its bare bones with all our outgoings , to sell 3 r 4 first team players and not be replaced is a shambles , and to have missed out on dempsey (a proven premier leauge player) for only 7 million is a joke , also to see a rising star in gaston ramirez go to newcomers southampton is heartbreaking.

hopefully now rodgers can work some magic with with some of our younger talent and slowly introduce them into the first team setup.

In rodgers we trust ! Y.N.W.A

tOSH

Its not that bad. We are covered well in all positions, with an excellent first 11 and sturdy cover for them all. Chelsea got ripped to pieces last night by agile technicians, and we can do that too. United doesn't look that strong, and City had real problems at Anfield last week. Arsenal is struggling already. Spurs and Newcastle isn't that good two years in a row. Top four? Why not?

Its not that bad. We are covered well in all positions, with an excellent first 11 and sturdy cover for them all. Chelsea got ripped to pieces last night by agile technicians, and we can do that too. United doesn't look that strong, and City had real problems at Anfield last week. Arsenal is struggling already. Spurs and Newcastle isn't that good two years in a row. Top four? Why not?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:19:48
Ed 1 how come spurs got granted extensions to 1am to sign moutinho, I'm so pissed off fsg are full of lies do you remember when Tom werner said we can buy anyone match anyone the is money to spend he is a tool. Thanks eds Tiger jay {Ed002's Note - They didn't. As I said at the time - Werner weas not discussing money.}

You've only got to look at his suits to tell you Tom werner hasn't got any money...

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:18:33
Absolute joke. Lfc get mugged off in overpriced British players last year and now the owners won't cough up an extra 1-2 mil for a proven epl goal scorer. What's going on? So much for progression hey! All the hype lived up to nothing. Hope we can compete in all comps with 2 recognised forwards.
Laughing stock of the premier league.
Thankyou eds and Macca for all your hard work, seems like the owners let us all down this time.
Chris... YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:17:06
Over the last few months I've been optimistic in my posts but tonight I'm disgusted, I feel terribly let down by FSG. We have left ourselves tragically underpowered upfront and finding it hard to understand our transfer activity today. I feel sorry for Rodgers, it seems to me at least that he expected(like the rest of us) a new striker or two would be signed.

Ed001 has been proven right..Ian Ayre is a absolute waste of space and should've been sacked last year.

Oh and thanks to all the Ed's, they do a great job and at times a tough one.

Disappointedly,
Bazingaa

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:15:06
Seriously banging my head on the wall, it can't be right that we wouldn't pay £2M IT CAN'T BE, what the hell is going on, I'm normally the last person to criticise the club always trying to find positives but I'm lost right now! Why let Carroll go if there's no replacement at least sign someone! ANYONE! FSG have some serious answering to do. Off now before I punch the computer screen.

ANGRY The Reactangle

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:14:48
the only positive i see today is that spurs didnt sign moutinho

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:13:48
Let me get this straight in my head, we let 8 of our 1st team squad leave - we managed to muster about £12m in sales (at their peak these players were worth over £100)
We have bought in 4 1st players with an outlay of £30m

Net spend of £22m

Squad is weaker and lighter than before
Club made false promises again eg AC would not leave without a replacement coming in etc

Other teams have got stronger and we are embracing a major transition in our football style

All we can do is keep the faith

Leam Red

You've just hit the nail on the head, at their peak they were worth over £100million. They're not at their peak anymore but still want lots of wages every weak!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:13:41
Like pretty much everyone, I'm pretty PO'd right now, but maybe for different reasons.

I don't care that we didn't sign Dempsey, Sturridge, or Walcott, or even that we let Andy go out on loan. Not too fussed about Kuyt, Maxi, or even Bellamy.

What I'm seriously annoyed with is that by all accounts the lights went off at Melwood hours before 2300. Ayre and company should have been on a mad scramble to find anyone even remotely decent to provide coverage for the bench. Guidetti on a loan from City, buy Volland from Hoffenheim, Shane Long from WBA, hell even having Ryan Babel or Benayoun back would be preferable to doing absolutely nothing. No- instead they just appear to have given up and went home. No effort, no attempt, no fight, no will to even try in pretty desperate straits to improve the club. If they don't give a crap how can they expect the players to? What sort of message does that send to the fans and players?

Completely and utterly shocking. There are almost no words for this monumental disaster. I've supported FSG whole-heartedly and defended them against attacks on here quite a lot. The only possible action they can take at this point that would maybe satisfy me as owners would be to sack the person that is Ian Ayre post-haste and bring in a real director/chairman type first thing Monday morning. Anything else and I'll be forced to join the 'FSG out' crew because this is absolutely diabolical.

RDL

I find it hard to believe we let Andy go and didn't get a striker in, but to say get Babel or Benny back to do nothing is silly. We already bleed money out of the club, why add to it with nonsense signings. Dempsey would have been fine for me, but cant understand why we didn't sign him.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:13:28
Guess we will av to start playing Morgan

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:13:27
we are very near to be a good team but last step missing. one good striker can boost our confident much strong. lets hope raheem do a striker job assaidi can be a 2nd striker gerrad can do that too.

hhh

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:13:10
Can't we sign a free agent anytime, like Michael Owen? Do we have to coduct transfers involving free agents during the window? Please clarify that for me, if you don't mind, eds.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:10:37
Anyone know what the score is on being able to recall Andy Carroll from West Ham loan?

Hes our player at the end of the day like

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:05:59
Shell shocked! I don't think iv ever felt this gutted about LFC. I mean I have every faith in BR but the reality is to compete in the PL we have to invest in proven world class players. What is our ambition? Where are we trying to go?

Does noone understand this from the US? Please tell me today was a dream and there is a different reality! Unfortunately it is not!

This is a time for us fans to unequivocally support our club. Through thick and thin. BR we support you. We will never walk alone. People please please no negativity

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:05:58
To be fair. If we stuck to our guns in the transfer market and refused to pay over the odds, we shouldn't really complain. Splashing out on overpriced players didn't help us last year. Now we are forced to play some of the youth players coming through the ranks.
We always say... we sold 3 or 4 or more players? But only 1 or 2 have come in. Well what is the point of having a youth development system if we never trust them to develop in or through the first team.
The manager and management have drawn a line in the stand for future dealings. Gone is the soft touch easy Muggs pay any price style of last year.
I think we will be just fine.
WEA

Very well put, i would have liked a striker but as you say lets hope the faith in the likes of Sterling and Morgan will pay dividends

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:03:45
Once again we are a joke in the transfer market.JH for an astute business man you need wake up.We let 3 players go on the last day of the window from a already limited squad and you think this is the way to compete in the league.You wont even spend 6mil on a striker we desperately need.what happens when the injuries come and they will espically if it to our only two strikers or midfield then we are relying on Morgan,Ibe? I only wish you spent as much passion and money on LFC as you did on the Red Sox.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:03:26
What an absolute joke. Rodgers was saying a few days ago we were short on players due to some leaving and not being replaced then we let 3 more go the day before the window shuts and bring in an unknown striker. With Lucas injured for 2-3 months we are looking very bare and if we think we are going to buy in jan look at what happened last time (Carroll). We will prob be in the bottom 3 by then anyway, these yanks are starting to look like copies of hicks and Gillette just new faces, time for a reality check it's going to be at least another 20 years before we get anywhere near winning the league, we have become a selling club and an absolute joke with everyone laughing at us mainly down to the stupid deals we keep making- selling class players cheap and buying average for a lot, hope am wrong but can't see it getting better any time soon, if we get beat on Sunday it will top of a miserable week and I can't believe spurs of got 2-3 players over us this season!!

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:02:24
Ok not a happy bunny but allen[awesome against city]sahin borini assidi and the highly rated german kid in ,spearing alan and AC out plus some other highly paid under achivers [kuyt excepted] balancing the books after KK's and DC's awful spending spree last year, that we all thought was so good at the time/fsg have wised up I think,hope the results and the kids convince them to open the purse strings when the next window opens.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 21:58:54
Ed052 you have been a legend mate cheers for building hopes of Dempsey, sturidge and Damiao! You sure you are not just one of guys who comes on here and has a laugh? Rob {Ed052's Note - Everything we told Tou wa 100% true}

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:08:54
Great news Ed's, in January we can do it all over again. :)

Sturridge i mean, we can wait all day over a below par player to arrive, only to see him make a cameo in a cup final with 100 million people watching Chelsea lose 4-1.

Days never a bad one if Chelsea lose 4-1. I'm looking on the positive already.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:08:47
On a positive note well chuffed for Adam Morgan.. Hopefully, will get some game time this year...

Also, surely suso will get his chance.

And lets not forget Sterling. Class. Like a new signing.

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:08:33
Michael Owen will sign on a free

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:01:42
hi eds so is it official we have signed no one on deadline day?

 

 

01 Sep 2012 00:01:17
looks like another long season! where are the goals going to come from? will be lucky to finish in top half prem. Dempsey deal should have been finalized weeks ago.
can't believe we wasted valuable transfer money on borrini, when we needed a proven premiership goal scorer (dempsey)

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:59:42
Go through our squad list, we are so undermanned it's untrue. We don't have enough players for the league let alone Europe. How can you achieve 4th or higher without goal scorers? How do you play 3 up front with only 2 first team strikers? (I appreciate we have some extremely talented youngsters...)

I stated earlier you have to question the senior management structure and why we didn't have more staff or support mechanisms to the manager and MD. Only one thing worse than overspending is selling and not replacing.... I find mself for the second time this Summer seriously question our owners. Once again I expected greater leadership but am severly disappointed... like others.

I'd apppreciate your thoughts in particular Ed001 and 002. I remember 001 also being disappointed in the handling of our managerial change.

I hope some of those youngsters we have all praised are ready to step up, because they will be needed... a lack of goals was my big fear!

Sorry for the rant. Thoughts appreciated.
Richards

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:59:41
Udinese , Young Boys , Anzi , Liverpool.
Be Ready for lost the Europa League 1st round.


hhh

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:58:46
do you know ive been stewing for about and hour and i thought to myself **** it ...come on youngsters at lfc ...lets step up to the plate and show the rest what its all about ....lfc forever thick and thin !! fact!

Totally agree with you, lets see how good they all are not just the young uns it's time to step up and say I'm SPARTICUS let's not forgot the recent signings if they were all signed last night a lot of people would have been happier than today.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:57:38
Eds wtf has happened to us? My whole family are sitting here devastated. Why was Rodgers given the nod to talk positivley at the press conference earlier today when we had nothing lined up?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:56:49
could we go after any free agents,we need a goalscorer? someone like klasnic

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:56:38
One player who we can still sign... Free agent so can sign after deadline, as we need a striker... Dare I say? M.Owen! What you reckon Eds? Thanks, Alan.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:56:31
Liverpool are going to struggle to score goals now! Will finish outside top 8. Michael owen can still join?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:55:49
Oh well Ayre left us in lurch,how incompetent is that man? Mr Owen still looking for a club we football fans are quite fickle and if he was to come back and score the goals we require (which he was born to do just read gerrards book) all his exploits will be forgiven.
YNWA JFT96

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:55:43
lets hope Asaidi is boss!!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:55:34
Our lack of movement in the window today leaves us with only one option?

Michael Owen.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:55:05
Hi eds, any chance of Liverpool signing any free agents in the near future, such as Owen or Fowler?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:55:01
LFC is a business and as a business man, I see the need to plug the leaks. FSG bought into LFC when to be honest we were close to bankruptcy. One of the main reasons we were in that position was because of the astronomical wage demands from the prima donnas that was the team.

Many of these players were playing for money. Not for the love of LFC. Struggling in mid table, Roy was not going to do it but KK might. I suspect that on advice, FSG were tilted to KK and made a rather snap decision. When KK was appointed, I gave him 2 years however I did not believe he would be given such freedom to spend the way he did. That said, having spent like this he would need to produce at least 4th spot and a CL shot.

This obviously never happened and s such CL revenues could not be relied on but I am certain they were expected and consequently, Kenny had to go. His method did not work and the wage bill got bigger still.

So really, what do fans expect? Another 50mil investment plus wages?

Never! The remit now will be to consolidate. It was mentioned just after BRs appointment that there will not be any silly money available. Money needs to be saved in order to grow. Quite frankly players these days DO cost too much and it is about time Liverpool bought players who actually want to play for Liverpool and not a wage packet. I would rather see a 3mil player trying his hardest to win for LFC than a Prima Donna with his head in his hands because he just hit the post yet again,

I am actually quite optimistic about this season even though we are lighter up front. We have brought in players that can score goals and will always make chances. At the same time we have not been held to ransom by other clubs which is a benchmark for the future. A good thing. If a player really wants to ply for LFC then he will.

Go Reds.because you are reds.

I do generally agree. But if you talk about players who want to play for us, then surely Dempsey fits the bill? It's not like we would have broken the bank to sign him.

Well said!!
Darwin lfc

Dempsey DID want to join us! Have you been living under a rock or something?

But dempsey really wanted to play for us and we couldnt even afford him,Im starting to have second thoughts on these new owners.Its a fine line my friend between success and failer and as things stand its pointing towards the latter. very angry red. From the day Rodgers came in he even stated himself this team needed goals.Guess what sure we will just get rid of all the players that produced half of our goals last season and replace them with imaginary friends.Its going to cost us big time come the end of the season not getting a proven striker how can you loose money buy not even spending any I think fsg just showed us big time. I hope im wrong.

gee man

Dempsey DID want to join us! Have you been living under a rock or something?

But dempsey really wanted to play for us and we couldnt even afford him,Im starting to have second thoughts on these new owners.Its a fine line my friend between success and failer and as things stand its pointing towards the latter. very angry red. From the day Rodgers came in he even stated himself this team needed goals.Guess what sure we will just get rid of all the players that produced half of our goals last season and replace them with imaginary friends.Its going to cost us big time come the end of the season not getting a proven striker how can you loose money buy not even spending any I think fsg just showed us big time. I hope im wrong.

gee man

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:54:48
I'm not one for defending Ian Ayre or the owners but
Isn't it possible that what happened is that Fulham would do everything in their power to deal with anyone but LFC after the website fiasco and complaint to FA etc. Agree £5M +£2M with villa and then ask for more when liverpool come calling ?
Regardless this was one disappointing night for all fans, players and the manager too I'm sure so they need us all the more this sunday and the rest of the season.
Red Derry

We have had 3 months to get a goalscorer in not 1 night.

We have had 3 months to get a goalscorer in not 1 night.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:54:27
Listen the owners were unhappy about the whole Suarez thing but they have just embarrassed our club for the whole world to see VERY IRONIC

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:52:49
So many fans on here saying we are in trouble roll on January. What makes you all think FSG wont sell us down the river then too.
They are a small fry set up trying to play hard ball with the big boys and well look at whats happened again tonight

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:52:23
Eds,

when we entered into negotiations with damiao what went wrong or did we just deicde hes to expensive etc? im shocked we have not replaced any of the out goings. {Ed002's Note - Wishful thinking I am told.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:51:54
want to thank eds 52 and 001 gud job guys even when u dont earn a dime for this.all we can do now is not loose hope....buh imo i tink fsg have some explaining to do.when did we become a club that cant afford 6mil

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:51:40
With BR stating that he needed 3 strikers in his team before he let Carroll go, was he under the impression he would have the backing/funds for a replacement or did he take a huge risk letting him go with no certainty of a forward coming in ?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:51:30
No players have signed... Denpsey was close but ufortunality liverpool tried to play the hard ball and tottenham stole the march. but Liverpool will focus on Micael Owen who is a free agent this season to add the firepower....

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:51:24
Ok at this stage we are desperate and Ed you did hint it IA needs to try and get Owen in, never thought I would say it but what choice do we have now??

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:50:20
Is it a sign of desperation. Michael Owen is a free agent ? Surely better than nothing. Yes, it pains me to say it.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:50:04
Gents,
Regardless of what has come and gone in the last few weeks , "i" think we are well equipped for the coming season. Brendan & FSG have a business plan which aims towards the new rules, due in 2015. If a player has no value then we will not buy them (ie Sigurdson). Brendan will move 1 of Gerrard, Sahin, etc further forward. Watching the game against Man City I thought we were awesome, if we play like that for 9 months we will be in the top 4. Regardless of all the "missed targets and opportunities" I still remain faithfull to the cause. YNWA Dangle1979

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:49:53
well that was a frustrating evening.

Just as a general question Ed's, do you think there is a possibility, with everything going on at the Red Sox and similarly here with the pillaging of our wage bill, that FSG are preparing to sell us?

To spend so little when we have re-couped as much as we have with the shipping on of deadwood, that it could possibly be to make the club look more attractive to potential buyers? just a thought.

hwtk {Ed002's Note - Not just yet.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:49:05
Been replying to posts all week. FSG have not and never have spent a cent on LFC squad.

Am really shocked by how this window has turned out, wonder how BR feels? Trim that squad reduce the wages and left with nothing.

Bring back Hicks and Gillet

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:49:05
First time posting and just want to say you guys do a brilliant job all year round.Especially at this stressful time of year. 2 points to make if you don't mind
1. Can we still sign a player after the transfer window closes if they are only a loan signing and if they are coming from outside off Europe eg leandro demiao? And secondly
2. Seriously, what are we going to do if Sueraz gets injured or has a another long spell out of the team. I know we have borini, Morgan, sterling and Yesil but none of then are proven strikers yet at the highest level?? {Ed002's Note - No, only out of contract players. 2. You have answered the question with the list of players.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:48:50
I don't think FSG quite realise what they have just done. Basicaly they have just blown it. For the next two seasons at least we will perform worse than under Dalglish. They will be booed & abused should they have the courage to attend games, and Hicks & Gillette are now actually looking the better option. I cannot believe they tried to play hardball. They aren't in a position of power to play hardball and now definately won't be for two seasons at least

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:48:16
Latest rumour: Liverpool have been thwarted in their attempt to sign Michael Owen, his non existent transfer fee is the stumbling block.
Irishdom15

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:47:54
Hey, eds

Wondering if a deal for Damiao could be possible in January if he doesn't go anywhere else until then obviously. Thanks. {Ed002's Note - I have dealt wityh this - try the search function.}

Would but it's not availabe, Ed. {Ed001's Note - it will be back soon.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:47:29
And so it continues . Mid table looming lesser teams winning players we should get all day long . I find it harder and harder to belive how fare we have fallen . I realy feel for gerro and Carra . Ther hope of lifting a prem leage title gone . Good luck for the season y.n.w.a

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:47:12
In rafa I trust

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:46:28
Blame FSG, blame Ayre. They must surely bare some of the blame, but I feel that my fellow countryman should have stepped up and said "We must get this man" I believe(d) him to be a man of principle.I am gutted.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:46:05
Hey Eds is Ian Ayre a Manc ?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:45:57
Shame on you FSG, your handling of the Dempsey affair has dragged the Liverpool FC name through mud..... you obviously have no idea the credibility the LFC name carries, LFC is just another business for you and extremely shameful how you treated him!

As for deadline day activity, No Ambition! BR could have turned our fortunes around, my opinion of you has changed BIGTIME today!

If we can't even afford Dempsey for £6m, what hope do we have; please sell up and jog along!

One word to some up FSG - DISGRACEFUL!!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:45:47
Ed's do you think we will bring Owen back?? He is the only one we can go for now is he not??

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:45:19
I am really disappointed that we didnt get a striker in today because now we only have suarez and borini. Whats going to happen if they get injured? One word to sum up the feelings of every liverpool supporter. Gutted.

Cheers

Sam

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:45:13
Eds I am absolutely gutted! Dempsey to Spurs for 6 mil, what is wrong with Liverpool buying a player for that price when they clearly wanted him, are we really still a big club in prem? A big fan for 35 years but what's happened??

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:45:06
Hi all,
So disappointed at the lack of transfers, but cant help feel even more sorry for rodgers....the way he was talking he was definately expecting stuff to happen today! he has his work cut out for the season now, and even in january i dont think we'll do any major business because of inflated prices etc. on the other hand, we have been slagged for our poor business in the transfer market all year so maybe they are trying to tighten the purse strings and avoid any excess spending anymore!
As I said, were in trouble for the season ahead, I hope this doesnt happen but i can see morale dropping amongst players and fans if unless brendan can work wonders.

Cheers

kk

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:44:44
The only way we could have looked more ridiculous tonight is if we had tried to sign dempsey on loan until the end of the season!!
Really disappointed with fsg

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:44:40
We needed to catch up to other clubs, all we have done is fallen further behind, why loan carrol out n not bring a replacement in? I dont see where our goals are coming from this season, don't blame Brendan blame FSG!!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:44:27
Im really dissapointed that we didnt get any new players today like everybody else but it could of been worse, we could have actually signed sturridge

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:44:24
This is the 1st time i feel like fsg are having us over! How can we get rid of the players we have today and not bring anyone in? To coin an american phrase i feel Brendon has been thrown under the bus (big time!)
From now til Jan we as supporters need to show the manager & team just why were the best fans in the world, remember we are liverpool fc and the manager and the squad will never walk alone.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:43:38
This club has become a joke, purely because these ducking yank owners haven't got a clue! They might have got us out of administration but look at us now....we can't even afford to mediocre players, whereas all all rivals have got stronger. Even everton are looking formidable, and I think will finish above us again this season looking at some of the players we bought. These yanks must be tight if the likes of stoke and QPR can afford to spend more then we can! Ducking joke! And we are now up rubbish street because we are now short upfront!

Very frustrated fan

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:43:25
Why did Pacheco move break down? Could the club of stopped it due to lack of forwards.love to see him take his chance. Talented lad
FowlerisGod

Valladolid needed to get someone out before they got him in; they failed to do so.

Lewis Bower

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:43:18
Like most fans the Liverpool ones are very fickle & i'm no different but after tonights disappointment i'd be happy to take Michael Owen back. At least then we'd have back up for Suarez & Borini if they get injured

IF Owen can remain fit that is...

Red PG

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:43:08
what a total total embarrassment.......
every man and his dog know we need strikers....but no we dont get anyone in....
Ayre has to leave and anyone who dosnt shout up at the Arsenal game should be disgusted with themselves, absolute joke of a bunch of owners and a really embarrassing LFC.tv tonight on sattelite tv,
when is it going to get better....fan forever, losing faith in this clubs owners, how the hell do we compete with city and utd never mind Chelskis spending, this club said we can compete with anyone.....Well...it lied..it lied to us all and we all fell for it.......Ayre out before anyone......
on a par with Villa etc.....no more window excitement for me...its just false promises
YNWA JFT96

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:43:00
FSG and Ayre are a joke.

Red raj

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:42:27
I hope the owners and Ian ayre took Brendan Rodgers out to dinner tonight, as I heard he likes to be wined and dined before he gets F*cked!

So disappointed...

Cmac

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:42:12
Let's hope this Yesil kid is as good as he is hyped up to be because he will deffo be chucked into the deepend now.

FSG need to just sell, they've mugged Brendan and the fans off

Full support BR he is the right man for us but we need new owners plain and simple.

Excuses will make things worse, BR and the fans deserve an apology.

BR must be just as mad as us, lets get behind him and the team.


Shak Attack

 

 

31 aug 2012 23:42:06
ian ayre out!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:42:02
With us missing out on all of our targets and the deadline passing do you think theres a chance we may take owen back eds? we are absolutely desperate for a striker....

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:41:59
FSG are spanners.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:41:55
would like to thank the eds today they done overtime.and all for nothing.
thanks for this great site

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:41:39
Ed's am I missing something?? Someone at board level must be taking the piss (don't want to be knee yerk but this has many similarities to what the yanks are doing at villa)!

"I need a minimum of three strikers," said Rodgers. "Once the window shuts, that is it until January. I have got Luis Suarez, Fabio Borini and Andy Carroll.

"I would need to be a nutcase to even consider at this moment to let Andy Carroll go unless there are other solutions for that.

I also remember a quote from Werner saying the aim would be to play attacking, attractive football..... So he sells/releases Kuyt, Carroll, Maxi and Bellamy and replaces these four players with Borini! Big boots to fill Borini boy.

Ah well. If we beat Arsenal on sunday all will be forgotten for a few days!

redder than red
YNWA

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:41:22
Atleast Heskey and Owen are free agents........We can still get them! Oooo the possiblities :P

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:41:14
Everyone saying its ayre to blame but im sorry he cant spend what the owners dont give out, these 2 yanks are the same as before and by the way where is this stadium? Im telling you they are getting ready to sell taking as much from the club as they possibly can and ian ayre is a muppet who will do anything for extra cash in his back pocket! Oh by the way eds can you post atleast 1 of my posts today thanks. RedTurk

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:41:11
I know people are disappointed about our lack of signings but to say the club is being ruined is ridiculous.
They have spent, and spent big on young talent and we ended up further away from the CL spots.
Perhaps BR has said he is happy with the majority of the squad and is happier to take longer-term approach, who knows?
Hope we win against Arsenal or the "Yanks out" brigade will be on the march...

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:41:05
Sadden but not surprised by this window!
Why is everyone surprised by the actions of the owners. They intend to replicate the Arsenal model of running a football club. With due respect to the gunners (who have won less than us in the last 7 years) are praised for the way they run it. The way they run it means that they will only pay money from what they generate, so they will never speculate. Guess where we're going as a club? The problem with copying this model is being that Arsenal have consistently been in the Champions League they have got away with not achieving anything whereas we need to speculate just to get the level they're at. Spurs are leaving us behind, Arsenal will be there again. (This cuts me in half to write) Chelsea & the two Manchester teams we're not even on the same pitch. So unless BR gets us into the Champions League we will be seeing more of this type of window.
But this is my team, from a babe in arms to a grandfather, this is MY team. I am humble & grateful to be able to share my journey with my fellow fans, the best in the world. We ALL need to show the players, the manager, the suits who own us and opposition fans that we are a club that no one can replicate.
Keep the faith & don't Mickey mouse the one phrase that is truly ours 'You'll Never Walk Alone'
Foxy 68

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:40:57
Firstly I do not have all the facts - only a few people possibly do.

I'm not going to say FSG out etc... However I find a few things strange and the oucome since then even more so.

This isnt a conspiracy theory, it's just my thoughts.

FSG come in do the due dillegence realise the cost of the club especially the wages.

We sell babel and Torres for a similar amount to Carroll and Suarez. I appreciate sign on fees/agent fees taxes etc.. may have added to that so we may have spent more than brought in.

Summer comes and we get rid/send on loan lots of players (El Zhar, Cole, Aquilani, Poulsen etc..)

We spend (as per press) a further £52m on Downing, Henderson, Enrique and Adam. Why did we spend so much if we clearly haven't got it?

Commercial revenue is up; players being sold/off payroll (I appreciate that some have had no resale value or we've had to pay to get them off the payroll); then the same happens this year - all be it no big name players are off on loan (at this point in time).

No nearer a decision on the stadium.

Have we been asset striped/ready for sale as the owners now appreciate football (soccer) is completely different to what they know?

I appreciate this is negative but 2 or 3 signings would've given us options in attack - Sterling can't play 60 games this year. there will be injuries and suspensions.

I think they thought the outlay would've got us champions league football last year - now it hasnt they are concerned 9we've lost some big earners of the wage bill as well now - Aquillani, maxi, Kuyt, Adam, prob £300k per week - £15m a season.

I may be reading too much into this but I'm struggling to understand how we left it late and when we did didnt move thereafter.

Hoola

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:40:30
Heard from a reliable sauce that Rodgers will resign tommorow

Probably the same sources that said we were signing a striker. 100% unreliable.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:40:18
What a joke top 4 no chance why would Suarez agger sign new contracts if this was what was going to in the transfer window if Brendon has been lied too he should walk our club is turning into a joke

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:40:13
really peeved off tonight what really gets to me is they let carroll go out on loan knowing they only had 4mil to get a replacement for him? did they actually expect to get dempsey yet any other decent player for that? doesnt make sense what u think Ed?

I'm even starting to doubt FSG too now. Can you actually confirm if FSG have actually spent much money since taking over. This sounds silly but when you think of the amount of money we have rasied off sponsorship with SC and Warrior and then wages saved the players that have left and the Torres cash how much has actually come from thier "investment"?

Do you think maybe the fact that BR spent 12 mil on Borrini who only looks average has made them change there mind in sanctioning BR's other targets?

Be nice to know your thoughts in it all maybe i'm looking too much into it all and missing something here?


Cheers
Lee

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:40:07
what an absoloute joke
once again prooves americans no nothing about football
if i was rodgers id quit tell them to shove it . we are now a mid card table club no more if we are lucky.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:40:04
so we pay 3m out to put in new corporate sections in the ground yet we cant put that towards getting a striker rather take more money off our fans than give us more chance of getting in the top four shame on fsg they need to wake up fast to how this game works feel sick tonight mayhem 1981 please post eds

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:53
Since no strikers were brought in do you think we should look at bringing Owen and/or Babel back to Anfield?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:52
Thanks for doing all you do Ed's. I'll see you again tomorrow and days there after. A great site and I appreciate all that you do.

Cheers,
DT

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:41
Don't know whether to cry or punch the wall... :|

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:32
really feel for br we will finish season same as last season if not worse who is to blame br answer sack the manager,owners haven no money great work ed

donegalred1

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:22
I would not be supprised to see grafiti on the wall saying henry out

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:21
Club let down BR and he must be re-thinking his position?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:10
Come on guys... everyone's now calling for the FSG heads to roll? Seriously?

First, they're not the ones negotiating these deals. That part is on Ayre's head... and clearly he failed multiple times this summer. So direct your pure hatred towards him, not towards our owners who splashed a fair amount of cash this summer.

Second, we all know LFC are now a work in progress that will take years to grow... not months, not days, YEARS. Let's have some patience.

Third, while I would have liked a few more players (Demps) to come in, I think the stubbornness we showed yesterday is, in a way, good and needs to happen from now on. We can't be constantly bullied into paying more than we should for players.

Lastly, can we all get excited for the next couple months? We're in Europe, we have excellent youngsters ready and willing to play, and we can play some great football.

We'll find the back of the net eventually. I have patient hope.

AmRed

Mate it's too late. I admire your optimism but and I dread to think what's about to happen but it's done. There has been divide between supporters in relation to the new owners. There are some that are dead against them because and excuse then as being the same as last American owners. Then there's the fans that have championed what they have done with the red sox. It always seemed that the ones supporting were winning the battle and were the majority but there's going to be a shift in the balance and once that happens it's gonna be futile to defend the owners. We all know that IA (Ian ayre or intelligence artificial as I'm now calling him) days are numbered and will follow rick
Parry and purslow out the door and then the owners are going to get protested against.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:08
I have a gut feeling that we will sign Owen now... Absolutely gutted as spirits were so high this morning.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:05
fsg r like the tories cut cut cut

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:39:01
Does everyone have the same view as me?? We needed a striker, not 3 new midfielders. Every game last season it was clear we needed a prolific goal scorer. The first thing that should have been done over the summer was buy a Bloody PROLIFIC GOAL SCORER. Kuyt, Bellers and Andy have all gone. Not saying there prolific but theres money off the wage bill but where is the reinvestment back into the squad for the attacking part of the team. Yes we did make some good signings. But will they be enough?? What a devastating window. Surely Andy's loan was 2 mil up front and Adams was 4 mil, almost enough for Dempsey. Some one who scores goals. I feel let down once again.

Jackson87

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:38:53
Having been caught up with the olympic spirit, and as a life long liverPool fan i find it hard to say this but i dont care about footy anymore

The way clubs fleece their fans
The lack of player loyalty
The astrononic wages for little skill and effort

I say this with a very heavy heart

Shoot me down if you like but i feel it needed saying

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:38:52
LOL im just thinking of the abusive Tweets JWH and Lynda are getting.....aaaha

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:38:48
I blame martin broughton

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:38:45
really disappointed tonight - expected some action
but got none - thought we wanted to get back into champions league - no chance who have we got to score 20 goals this season -

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:38:34
Big shout out to all the Ed's!

Thank's for the great site. Have to say it is quality and don't pay any attention to all the dicks who give you guys abuse.
And thanks Ed001 for coming up with it in the first place.
Keep the faith!
Thanks
Campbell

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:37:49
I hate to say it but i bet owen will sign in the next few days. put a few bob on it. BAD mistake though if it happends.

Andy kophead.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:37:43
No more yonks no more ayre this is the worst ive ever felt as a liverpool supporter. This is the worst transfer window ever. We are so light in numbers we are going to have to take kids out of the school to play.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:37:16
Eds whats the chances of michael owen, fowler, heskey lol owen maybe ok just a thought

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:37:13
Fellow reds it's hard to take but it's feast or famine. We spent £100m plus last year and it got us nowhere. This year we have been more cautious. We had to reduce the the squad of average players on high wages but haven't replaced them with the players we wanted! So be it! We haven't panicked like previous. Surely no one was excepting a title challenge were they! A couple of years and Rodgers will have us challenging without the massive ego's or wages. YNWA.
AK47

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:36:50
Ed's, do you think this will pave the way for a return for Owen?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:36:49
I'm a first time poster but long time reader but tonights frustration has made me post. All I can say to sum up tonight is 'Potty Trousers'.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:36:44
1)Man United
2)Man City
3)Chelsea
4)Tottenham
5)Arsenal
6)Newcastle
7)Liverpool

I'm sorry mate but i think you will find Everton above as well by the end of the season.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:36:27
It seems Liverpool are incapable of learning from past mistakes. Leaving transfer deals to the last day is always fraught with danger.
Now, mainly due to poor decision making by FSG, we have been left with a paper thin squad.
Let's hope and pray our top players remain fit at least until January.

Gordy

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:35:16
People can air their own views to the owners just tweet

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:34:41
Ok lads is not good I agree but let's try and put a positive spin on stuff eh?
We only had 3 strikers last season in Andy Luis and Craig, now we have 2 but BR seems to have faith in the young lads so hopefully one will make the grade.
Got money for Jan I hope when target may be available.

One good thing is Ayre will go, terrible choice, not a footballing man and he can't seriously keep his job.

Just hope we can hold on till jan! Borini may be good and Sahin looks a great buy!

The day has been made worse cause of the high hopes we all had but lets thank the eds for some great work and support our team. If Ayre, FSG and BR have messed up then they will pay the price I am sure!

Give this new squad time!

Red-David-26

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:33:14
Eds thanks for all of your hard work not just today but all year around.

I am stunned we have let AC go and not replaced him. We are seriously weak up front now.

Surely we should have done our business a bit earlier. Was there an issue in getting players to come to us who were available or was it all down to the fact we simply have no money?

Cheers

Garthy J

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:30:59
Eds - a quick question. Can we recall AC from his West Ham loan? If we can then BR needs to do so straight away. He has been left high and dry in this window by miserlyness - ineptitude of FSG & Ian Ayre. Recalling AC would send a message to them and to the fans.

Bob

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:18:43
Well thanks for all your comments editiors really appreciated just a shame we couldnt make the iconic signing that we needed to turn the last 12 months around let's hope BR DOESN'T GET THE SACK AND WE END UP IN CHAMPIONSHIP

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:13:35
Eds I am seeing a lot of negativity towards br but I am wondering if he can really be blamed I imagine he wanted players and wasn't backed properly would I be right in thinking that ? Thanks hope today hasn't been too manic for you lot hopefully a break now although more likely a lot of moaning to deal with

 

 

31 Aug 2012 20:44:45
so thats it then is it, ED02 do you think we have finished in this window, no striker no nobody? {Ed002's Note - Yep.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:29:47
Very frustrated by the business (or lack of) today. However, I do think people are being pretty harsh; the owners have always said we're working towards a sustainable and profitable model at the club. We failed to offload Cole's huge wages or get rid of Carroll on a permanent basis, we can't simply keep avoiding the leaking hole in our club's finances. I can see that we're undermanned in the front line but let's just hope the owners know what they're doing. To say they're after the money simply isn't true when they're spending vast amounts just on the day to day running of our club, which has become vasty over-inflated after years of mismanagement.

Walt White

The owners care little about LFC that was shown yesterday and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

FSG only had to add 2M to the 4M from adam to buy Dempsey and they could not do it.

Were a selt sustaining profitable club to say there putting there own money in day to day is stupid wake up and smell the beans the problem is there making big mistakes along there way comolli was a mistake and im affraid aye cant do the job hes been handed its like they couldnt find one for him so give him a vacant one any normal person would have

You believe Gerrard and Carra should win the league but really this is a long-term project, Liverpool is bigger than any player.

Have to agree with you Walt, although I remain highly suspicious (that might just be my socialist feelings towards management comming out) towards the owners.
All year this site has been flooded with posts about us overpaying for players and now thay stand firm and refuse to be held to ransom they get abuse.
We have been saying for a long time the future of our club lies with our youth, well it's time to start that future. After all, how many goals did Dirk and Andy get last season and Louis avoids 8 suspensions that like an extra player.
RNred

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:29:23
As disappointed as we all are, let's just think back to last Sunday. We outplayed the champions with basically the squad we have. Replace Andy and Lucas with Sahin and Assaidi and I'd say that is equally as good if not better (although we will miss Lucas... Again!) If we can continue to put in performances like this, and take our chances, we can definitely be in the top 4 come the end of the season. Hopefully a bit of activity in January to bolster the squad in that final push for top 4 and all will be forgiven. 3 points on Sunday is the first step... YNWA

KingHeskey

Who's there to take these chances. Think about the mood and spirit around the dressing room now. AC looked like he fitted in and was always laughing with team mates. Spearing and Adam both wanted to stay and fight to play for LFC. Lucas out for months. BR will be deflated. Its not good times at all

What... Followed by a hard fought 1-1 with the mighty Hearts!?

Yea that's all well and good but it's not the big clubs or the cup semis and finals we struggle in it's against the sides were expected to beat, do you think that 11 can play 2 games a week? They can't and as much as people don't like Adam and Carroll they can do a job off the bench, fair enough moving them on but without replacing them is utter madness! Someone has dropped the ball and its not the players, manager or the fans but were the ones will suffer. The Owners cleared out all these players to save money that's the bottom line!!
Damo_45

We out played them but couldn't finish them off, which is our problem and why we need a clinical finisher.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:25:48
for 18 months people have been screaming out for adam morgan to be given a chance, well all owen and fowler need were games so this could turn out to be a good thing and do we really need palyers in the squad who are prepared to just do a tevez or a masherano and go on strike like dempsey did because they cant get there own way, this is going to be a really good opportunity for rodgers to truly asses his squad, were getting rid of a lot of fringe players and hopefully building a decent size transfer budget for next season when rodgers truly knows where he needs to improve.

Jaydee ynwa

Just trying to be optimistic

ps ian ayre is a total kn0b

Thanks mate...

Excellent post, let's now get on with what we do best - support the manager and players through golden skies and storms. Come on you reds. Remember YNWA

Sorry mate but if you think Adam Morgan is the answer to our problems, then you need a big wake up tablet!!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:24:07
Thanks for all your hard (non-paid) work, what would we do without you guys? I'm sure I speak for all the fans of this site when I say 'YNWA'

Cheers to you all

SteTheRed

If i could press agree 100 times then i would.
robbie

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:23:29
Evrybody needs to calm down we havent seen 2 ov our signings play yet assadi could be a falcoa in the making lol i still have a good feeling about this year im not to sure about the owners but what do i know about buisness but for some reason i belive in brendan i just cant help but think this man is goin to take us to glory and build an empire i think he will be years to come i hope evrybody gives the team a chance and sings there hearts out at games because obv the team needs us and brendan needs us as we need him i hope he pulls it off this season although i think we will finish 5th i hope he gets 4th but if not this season deffo think he get it next season this is just my opinion stay positive lads and come on arsenal. STEMLOCC1

Falcao could have been a liverpool player in 2008 but hicks and gillett refused to offer 5 million for him

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:23:14
Absolutely devastated and feel let down by FSG however...........let's remember who we are. I have faith in BR and the squad we have and most of all i faith in the fans. Forget dempsey, forget sturridge, forget wallcott, we have fans all over the world who will be bigger than any signing we could have wished for. I'll be red until i die and i don't need, want or appreciate any yanks trying to get in the way of the love i have for my club. We will never walk alone now lets show them gooners we mean business. YNWA

That old chesnut is getting olde

Its a new day, its a new day and I'am feeling blue

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:18:35
Disaster night - looks like we had very little funds to play with. Sickened to see another target picked off by spurs. I wonder will we turn to Owen at this stage seems that we have no striker cover with Andy gone. I believe we can still sign players on a free? Eds?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:18:17
Now we know why Raffa didnt come back! He wanted full control over transfer, make sense.

FSG have no money, why dont they admit it a sell up.

As for the stadium news, i wont hold my breath

AFCRushdentillidie

Benitez didn't come back because he isn't any good, and he wasn't even considered.

John B

At best Anfield will be redeveloped and then only if a major sponsor comes along to fund at least 50% of the project.

Time to wake lads and see FSG as they are not much better than H&G

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:18:35
Well Rodgers said we need a player and we've got no-one. Expect the panic signing of Owen in a few days, but none of the targets we were after. Really disappointing. Still, we have a good midfield and first-choice defence, but our problems will be in front of goal once more. No change from last year.

Red Ollie

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:18:35
best thing that happened all day was that I found out I share the same birthday as Bill Shankly (and Pato, Javi Martinez and... Joey Barton)

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:18:32
It seems today's been a bit of a let down but if you think the possible line up could be; Reina - johnson,skrtel,agger,enrique - allen, sahin,gerard - borini, Suarez, sterling
It's definitely an improvement from last year, only problem being the lack of back up. Also, want to thank the eds for all their hard work over the whole transfer window! With all the abuse you've had to deal with, you's really do a fantastic job!

Love it, its a nice team, but you cant rely on sterling to be in shape for a whole season, he is 17, and the prob is not our best 11 players, but what happen when we needs to change the team cause of injuries? tired players and other stuff like susp really gonna kill this season for us, no chance in hell for a 4th spot with this squad, sorry for beein a person

We also have Assaidi, Cole and Downing to feature and possibly Pacheco and Morgan to play small parts do we not?
Stick it out for a few months then try again.

Red7.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:13:27
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers says getting recognised goalscorers in is the number one objective for the final hours of the transfer window.

Speaking at his press conference ahead of the Arsenal match on Sunday, the Reds boss said There's no doubt we need to add goals to the team. Getting people who are recognised goalscorers to come in is the number one objective.

-Just got this from ThisIsAnfield Ed's, don't like the way we've handled this situation, Brendan was promised that he would be given the money to buy a striker which we haven't got. That is bad enough but the owners only really gave Rodgers 30m to spend.
Ian Ayre/FSG= Skittles for Brains!
Cheers Ed,
Loyalred.

Yh and the worst thing is BRs gna have to take the rap 4 it...while the owners hide and watch behind there curtains

Money was there. Dempsey wasn't and sometimes deals just don't happen, sometimes it's beyond the control of Ayre. S**t happens. Let's get back on the support wagon.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:18:00
Look on the bright side. A great transfer window. We could have sold Suarez, Agger and even Gerrard if the offer "met with the clubs valuation". We are a selling club now. Only players we can now afford are out of contract third choice bargains or loanee bench warmers. Suppose that's what you get with baseball owners.
Beancounter

If we wouldve added Dempsey, our squad would be much, much stronger.

Wait amigo it will get worse just like in the days of H&G

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:17:49
after this window we will have problems keeping our players with a few injuries we be in trouble.
suarez will be our new torres promises made and not kept he will leave.
agger skrtel will follow.
what a mess these americans are not the correct owners for us we had problems scoring goals and this window they have spend 11mil net.
the only reason we did not get a 20/30mil striker is they dont want to spend their own money.
we have a young team and with a class striker we could have made top 4.
now we wont and players will leave mark my words.

Players can't just leave, they have a thing called a contract, and I don't think the Americans will be very cooperative if somebody wants to break us contract.

John B

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:17:35
Great work today Ed's. I'm a little disappointed with the anti climax from the club, but you guys have been tip top... Thanks to all the genuine posters too... You've given us some hope til the end.... I kno we're gonna have a decent season, we'll play arsenal Sunday with the same side that gave the champions a lesson last Sunday, except with the addition of Sahin... Plus, it's only 3 months til January ;-)

Cheers

Chubby Alonso

3 months is a long time in football mate...

Red PG

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:16:17
After such a dissappointing day, I have a really bad feeling that we will sign Michael Owen!!

Cheers

Dan

Hope so - whether people like to admit it or not, his goals per minutes played, even at the other lot is still pretty good.
17 starts, 37 sub appearances (majority of which he came on after 70 minutes or later), and scored 19 goals.
If nothing else, he would be a pretty useful impact sub, he's exceptional at keeping defenders busy.
All we have to do is keep him fit.

John B

Owen is better than no one ,swallow our pride and except our position , he will play ,the attitude of the fans will not cause him problems and he will put the ball in the net, i do not like certain things about him but we must do what is best for the team. red mick tag

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:16:46
I just don't get it, why loan out Andy Carroll
unless we had a trick or two up our sleeves, with the number of competitions we are in how will we cope? I know this isn't BR's fault, I feel desperately sorry for him. Spurs got Dempsey for £6m which is an absolute steal! If we had issues matching Damiao's wage demands, it's ridiculous, it's not like we're paying any other new signing's wages! I am fully in support of not being held over a barrel regarding players demanding huge wages, but we're kinda desperate now! So very bitterly disappointed, as I'm sure everyone else, including eds are. Thanks for all your hard work eds, I really hope you don't get supporters frustrations taken out on you.

We gave louis an extra 60,000 a week and we have to pay at least 70,000 a week for sahin plus the loan fee etc, we made this by moving carroll, spearing and adam. red mick tag

Owners are clearly in financial trouble...no other explanation...
I doubt Damiao was asking for absurd wages...Dempsey was seemingly affordable...
Carroll was loaned out just to save money on wages...

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:16:30
Great site I've been on here all day, all I can say is lets hope we don't get any injuries especially to Suarez and lets hope the youngsters can perform when called upon. Also is the Carrol deal a loan with a view to buy? If he does well will he be playing at Liverpool next season or will West Ham be able to buy him outright without the reds having a say?

Not sure, but i think both clubs plus player needs to agree to sell

With Suarez, you have to hope to avoid both injuries and bans.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:15:54
well the owners have proved to be right stubborn persons tonight. we got 4/5 for charlie adam, loan fee for carroll, but we can't cough up 6/7 million for a proven goalscorer? what if suarez or borini gets injured and we have to rely on morgan upfront? its a joke, feel so sorry for brendan he must be fuming

Dont forget rodgers was desparate to get rid off carroll .............andy.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:15:47
when will our owners realise it is not the possesion of lfc but the future . we are here for life . they can walk tomorrow , dont take it out on BR he was stitched

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:15:16
Hi Ed thanx for ur great work during whole transfer window. But i am very dissapointed that lfc didnt sign a striker. All day news coming we will definately sign a striker but at the end we lost 1 and did sign. I dnt know whats going on at the board. Rodger sad he will sign a striker. Bt didnt do that. I hope it didnt cost us much. And our owners i dnt thnk they have any care about club. They only trying to make money. Its time for the fans to get up and fight for club otherwise they destroy club.
Thanx again to all the eds.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:15:13
the worrying thing is if spurs finish above us thanks to goals from siggy and dempsey we will look like the biggest mugs in the pl

Is this why avb turned us down did he know our problems

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:15:03
Can anybody tell me where the goals are coming from this season PLEASE,Suarez is not a out and out goal scorer,I really fear for our team if we pick up injures etc,owners not good enough (yet) again, promises broken yet again

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:14:47
FSG not prepared to spend money on Dempsey Red Sox must need new pitcher/player as its becoming more and more obvious we aren't a major concern to FSG as long as red sox are sorted

Stop all this spending money on the red sox nonsense, FSG has two separate budgets for the two teams, no amount of money spent on one team affects what can be spent on another. Anyways the Red Sox cut 270 million in payroll obligations two weeks ago, so spending money on the Sox is clearly not an issue

Their interest in lfc is a speclative one , they are in it to get more than they paid and will do asap once they balance the books they will be pushing for a sale.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:13:57
Owners didn't screw us - I hate to say it but it was Kenny and Comolli's spending last season that cost us. Very, very disappointed. Singred

Actually, they still screwed us!

They gave Kenny whatever little money (Side money they set aside from Red Sox), they had, and Kenny/Commili spent it carelessly, ridiculously, irresponsibly (Join in with synonymous adverbs if you want).

People are now only waking up to the realization that they are running the club they wrong way.

They care not for success, they care more about profit (And baseball).

Thier business model involves employing people on 3rd tier wages (Managers included), buying younger players in hope they'll profit from selling a few years later and of course sponsorship etc etc.....

Bottom line is we were hoodwinked by letting a company buy us when they owned another "Franchise".

It means they have interests other than Liverpool!

Recipe for disaster!

Here's hoping they surprise me in January and shove my opinions where the sun don't shine.


StrabaneRed


PS: On a positive note the players we did purchase/loan in look very good in foresight.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:13:55
Well let's look at the bright side I'm as annoyed as every other Liverpool fan but we still have Agger:) and as for the attacking department... STEP UP ADAM MORGAN!

Cheers

JonesyLFC

Is agger going to play as a striker

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:13:33
A massive thank you to all Eds and it's clear that you're as gutted and puzzled as the rest of us at the new regime's transfer policy. Just to keep you guys working - what's the deal with Carroll? Can we get him back if/when we need him?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:55:14
Ok so we wont sign any1 our deals were done yes idealy we could have got a striker but look we got joe allen what a great player he looks borini looks good he wil find his feet fact sahin is a quality player and wil be very good asaidi (spelling) looks a great prospect and wit stirling stepping up looks the part to all be it needs a bit of strength but will be class and morgan gettin the nod last nite he didnt look out of place so these players cuming in and stepping up wil and are going to make a difference and remember we kept our best players so not all bad keep the liver bird high on your chest from irish red across the pond edds can i just say aswell what a great site wel done truly addictive would love your feed back

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:12:27
If we lose to arsenal after today's debacle I'm not visiting this site for a month!

dmedly {Ed063's Note - Thats a wise decision haha}

We will beat arsenal , ynwa

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:12:05
Well it's 23:03 in the UK now; it's not impossible that something goes through unannounced however it is unlikely.

I must say given the amount of players that left last summer compared to what came in and also this summer I am a little concerned; this morning the thought of Demsey, Sturridge and Diamaio had me dreaming of top 4.

I'm not knocking our business, Sahin, Allen should be/are class. Borini has something to prove while the other chap (apologies) is unproven and may take some time to settle.

Defensively we look ok; Midfield should be ok when Lucas is back however I'm most concerned about upfront.

I know its a business and we've had to take a big hit on a number of players and in the future we should look a lot better but a bit disappointed to what we could've had compared to what we have.

It's great selling Ecclestone and pacheco (if he has been sold-not sure) but that leaves us v weak as a squad.

I wouldn't be surprised if BR has to focus on the premier league and forgo Europa and Carling/Capital 1 Cup.

To think two or three forward players would've made the difference.

Deflated.

Hoola

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:12:04
To all the editors well done you did more work than Ian Ayre tonight and yours did a better job. In all seriousness thanks for all the hard work yous have put in.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:11:53
oh Boy! In one day potentially a brilliant transfer window in years has become one of the worst in recent seasons...jeez...gutted. I cant believe i am saying this but hope that we keep Pacheco now as we are severly undermanned upfront. Also (out of utter desperation) sign Owen...arghh! {Ed063's Note - Pacheco's gone and I'd rather see Morgan given a crack than Owen!}

Pachecos move fell through
Do pacheco and yesil have squad numbers?

Pacheco's still here, real valladolid move fell through last minute...

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:11:49
Ed's what your take on all this?

Lee73 {Ed063's Note - My personal take is one of bemusement. I dont know why certain deals didnt happen or fell through. But we freed up a lot of wages and got rid of fringe players in the process. Now s the chance for the youth to be promoted, which is a great thing in my mind.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:11:45
Cheers eds for the last few hectic weeks, I'm pissed off tonight & you must be feeling the same.
Ultra red {Ed063's Note - Cheers mate. It was very frustrating}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:11:43
Ed, can we still sign someone on loan {Ed063's Note - Not sure}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:11:12
if they didn't want to spend money on Dempsey due to his age then why not spend the money for Damiao? he fits the profile 100%

Uppady people that is FSG.

They have no cash to spend on lfc

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:10:59
Lets get started on the January rumours, LFC to sign a striker :-)

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:10:40
i hope we win on sunday because the owners have just heaped a load more pressure on BR, this rebuilding process is obviously not on their agenda, they will never pay the money for the players he needs so it`s down to wheeling and dealing and relying on loans

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:10:37
Sunday could be fun. Do you think Ian will be there?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:10:33
Why on earth was carroll allowed to leave on loan with no certain replacement? Really can't understand this as now suarez and borini are the only 2 recognised centre forwards at the club and let's be honest borini does not look ready to be in the starting 11 week in week out. Sorry about the rant guys just really disapointed we have not added much needed goalscorer to the team really hope we don't sign that traitor owen now out of desperation we shud have signed dempsey when we had the chance cheers for all you're hard work edds apreciate it.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:10:28
Sorry eds but absolutely f.....g fuming and I bet Rodgers is to,can't believe after the players we have let go and all summer to sort it out we have not brought a quality striker in.No excuses from the owners let us all down,champions league football my arse.
Tomo10

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:10:25
What the hell has got on with FSG, they are worse than when Hicks and Gillet came in at first, 2 strikers who neither of them can score, morgan just isn't old enough now... the good feel at the start of the season already gone it seems

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:10:16
might aswell sign michael owen seen as we have no strikers will be lucky to finish top 10

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:10:09
What you reckon then Eds, with our skeleton front line, I'm assuming Morgan will be featured more but what about Yesil? Dumped in the deep end I know but what else can we do?

JFT 96

JP {Ed001's Note - I don't see we have a choice either.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:10:01
Cant wait to see the documentry now to understand what the hell they were thinking!

Taster123

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:09:58
New manager, cr*p owners, everything looks downwards, no strikers, cr*p board...2005 anyone?

RedKopite

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:05:44
Listen I don't care what you say but I think when spurs come for clint he went for them so he could stay in London, also I don't think Brendon wanted him... And remember we have two signings who haven't played a game yet... We ave good owners who are backing the manager and this one want waste money on players for the sake off it...

Pookymonster

Good owners that back manger they must think this is base ball the screw up big time big big big time

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:05:43
Hi eds I'm clutching at straws but any chance deals could be done from foreign clubs because thier transfer deadlines are different to the EPL one? As I say I'm clutching at straws but livid after today.

Thanks eds, brilliant site. {Ed063's Note - Not sure}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:05:31
I hate saying this but ithink the thefirst two transfer windows have scared fsg as to how quick you can lose a lot of money on buying players that you don't believe are worth the price you have paid , i know people will say that we are going to fall behind but we have to be honest with ourselves our history is second to none but we are in a bad place right know we need our spirit our desire in the stands to let the players we have now that we are with them all the way not matter what happens from now til the end of the season they do not walk alone lets get behind br and the team and give anybody we play against the hardest 90 of there lives
davy p a proud red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:05:20
well done all the eds on a frantic few days not so well done fsg, lets all get past this now buck has got to go with what he has and we all need to get behind the team and help out as much as us supporters can do and wow we can really help them on the pitch
up the pool
Redan {Ed063's Note - Excellent post}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:04:59
Really can't understand this, two strikers for the season? Is this more down to the owners lowering the wage bill eds?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:04:51
Question for Eds. Do you think the owners will give a reason for our lack of activity, particularly the Dempsey saga? As a supporter of 40 years standing, I feel a tad embarrassed that we couldn't cough up what was a relative small amount, for someone who could have solved our goal scoring problem. Rome 77 {Ed063's Note - I dont know if they will or not. But think of it as a chance for Morgan etc to have a crack in the 1st team, so its not all bad}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:04:48
Hi eds what has happened with Doni
Lewis

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:09:44
SHAME ON LFC
Ian Ayre and Yankees have to go. can't stand this situation anymore.
A protest should be done.
Stop blaming us, they are just exploiting and embarassing the club and the fans.
FROM italy
GUTTED

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:09:38
So with the window closed and with us being abit lightweight with the lack of incomings question for eds and fellow reds......would you sign Owen? {Ed001's Note - no, I wouldn't.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:09:03
Even signing Owen will be positive now!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:08:57
What are FSG playing at ?? We've now left are selves way too unmanned to compete in Europe aswell as the premier league. Please tell me this wasn't down to Rodgers ?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:08:42
Only one player we can now sign after deadline passes - Michael Owen

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:08:32
window closed ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED WITH FSG TODAY....... we now have a strike force of Suarez, Borini(still a work in progress IMO)and Morgan(not ready for the lead role just yet).............I mean WTF.....how are we gonna play EPL, EL, and the cups with such a lightweight strikeforce........We have lost Strikers.....Carroll, Eccleston, Pacheco, Cole injured...we have freed up so much money with wages going out either by sales or loans....I just cant see the logic in not signing a striker, when its obvious we are lacking massively in this department.

Limerick Red

How are we gonna play ?
Easy mate - we won't be in any of the cups for very long .... so that's ok then .
Now ... the league - i'm afraid if you don't score goals we know what to expect there too !

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:08:31
Was BR selected for his football style or because he had the lowest transfer budget of the candidates? Hicks and gilette all over again. The last 3 seasons i have sat like a person waiting for something i think can win us the league, bt still i wait for the club to respond to the BEST fans in the world. Where do we go from here??

Sorry for the rant but every game i watch now i think we will lose.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:08:26
what was so out of the question in paying £3mil for Damiao on loan to then pay £13m next summer (that would have no impact on this seasons books)

i hope we get him in January as the domestic Brazilian League ends that time. (due to the seasonal difference)

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:07:59
Looks like these Americans have gone from one extreme to the other. From going to paying silly money for players like Carroll and Downing, they are now doing the exact opposite by quibling over a few quid and missing out on targets. This doesn't fill me with confidence and seems to be a reactionary approach that implies that they are not really sure of what they are doing. I and many fans were supportive of them initially but this really leaves a bad taste and smacks of amateurism on their part.

Letting Carroll go out on loan without a replacement guaranteed is just absolutely crazy, and could come back to haunt us, and for what, to save a few quid on wages. You have to f**kin pay wages to players, these Americans seem obsessed by the wages that they have to pay. I am truly gutted tonight, and i'm sure most of us reds are. I think that the Americans have really fu**ed up this last couple of days and has damaged a lot of the goodwill felt towards them by many fair minded fans.

David

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:07:54
Shocking. Now we'll see whether Rodgers is loyal to the owners or loyal to the team. Because is it stands, the owners have lied to him and made him look a fool. Personally, if I were in the same boat I'd publicly stick two fingers up to them and walk on the spot. We have a good squad but to small. We are now in a position that relatively few injuries will make us struggle to finish as high as we did last year. I get the impression that the owners are gambling (stupidly) that youth will come through and bail them out. They deserve everything that happens and Rodgers has ny sympathy. I think the owners have failed to grasp that the war is 8 months long, through fixture congestion, injury and suspension and there is no mercy - certainly far less than they showed Dalglish. Stupid, short sighted people. RED LENIN

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:07:54
Is there anyway we can start a protest or atleast get a petition going to get Ian Ayre out? No football knowledge at all. Strikers bring goals. We have Suarez who needs 4 shots to score and borini who hasn't scored a premierleague goal. Jeez ngog could score in Italy.

Is there any light at the end of this tunnel?

H Red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:07:44
Absolutley livid.

JimmyHustle

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:07:41
is sahin playing sunday

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:07:21
we've spent the last few years being ripped off for sub-standard players bid what they're worth and not a penny more. Maybe next transfer window we'll be taken seriously-well done br!

If you think it was BR's doing as a plan for the next window or the one after, then you're crazy.

Rodgers got let down by Ayre n' co.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:06:59
I wonder what Rogers was thinking when he saw all the staff leaving Melwood no doubt he was still expecting a deal.

He said he would fight with his life for the club its too bad that no one else will.

He was said to be furious when leaving Melwood earlier on.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:06:53
The entire LFC squad have scored 221 goals in their LFC careers, Gerrard accounts for 150 of those, Suarez is next on 23 and everyone else 48.

City scored 93 last season.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:06:24
I don't know what's worse - the fact that we've missed out on Dempsey, or that Dempsey was seemingly our biggest target.
Nothing against him, he would have been a much needed signing and I'd have been very happy to have him, but when AC left I thought a goal scoring centre forward was on the cards.

But I think we all need to take a step back and calm down. Nobody's died, and Liverpool will go on.

This is far from an ideal situation but perhaps it can act as a wake up call to a lot of us. This is a long term project.

Youth / academy players will get much more of an opportunity this way. Morgan, Sterling, Suso etc. will get games.

I'm disappointed of course, and still believe that getting rid of Andy Carroll without a superior replacement (or any replacement for that matter) is a ridiculous piece of business.

Rodgers made his mind up that he didn't want him and was too stubborn / arrogant to give him a chance.

I seem to remember BR saying "I'd be a nutcase to allow Carroll to go out on loan. He cost the club £35 million, no way is he going on loan"

So what happened?

There have been so many inexplicable occurrences these last few days that I'm not sure what to think.

I guess I'm just happy that Suarez and Agger weren't sold as well.

Joe

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:06:18
Can't believe what I've just seen. Not signing another striker will cost us millions in our league position. Now confused on fsg's strategy at making us great again, no stadium plans, no new players mid table season. I recognise we spent on players last year but who agreed the fees? Comolli or Ayre? I think we need a strong leader as MD. very disappointed tonight

 

 

31 aug 2012 23:06:17
not only have we missed a quality player who is a proven pl goalscorer for the sake of 1-2m, but he has gone to one of our biggest rivals for a top 4 finish! surely the chance to weaken your oponent to that top 4 spot was worth an extra 2m?!

shocking ownership from fsg and shocking leadership from ian ayre.

now lets get behind brendan rodgers, cause if we lose him we are truly screwed!

red g

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:04:28
fuming with fsg and there tight penny pinching since theyve been at the club if you work out the ins and outs theyve not spent anything really feel sorry for brenden rodgers in his challenge head with 2 strikers

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:04:04
BR has been hung out to dry by the owners!

I've backed them all along but am stunned at what's happened today...absolutely stunned. I actually feel sick.

The owners and IA are a disgrace.

I know most will disagree with me but we have the hand we have...let's play the hell out of it and get behind BR and the team starting on Sunday and support the term we love!

Irish Al

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:04:34
Well ****.

Great effort Eds!

Thanks for the evening despite the disappointment. SSN got nothing on you lot! {Ed001's Note - I dunno, I would say Natalie Sawyer is a distinct edge!}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:03:53
The man I blame most is that Ian ayre. Sure he is a LFC fan but he is just an absolute moron. The other clubs must be laughing when he arrives to negotiate a deal.

He is a smug little ******* and think dressing in his suit and tie is enough to do the job. Piss off mate and do us all a favour. Dunno what David dein is doing at the mo but that bloke got things done properly. No coincidence things went down hill when he left the gunners.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:03:52
We might aswel just put Samed Yesil straight into the first team he can't be any worse than Morgan was vs Hearts.

ST; Suarez, Borini
WF; Assaidi, Sterling, Downing

AM; Gerrard
CM; Sahain, Allen, Shelvey, Henderson

FB; Johnson, Kelly, Enrique
CB; Agger, Skrtel, Coates, Carragher

GK; Reina, Jones

again we have an incomplete squad of only 19 first team players.

Hopefully,

Suso, Yesil, Ngoo & Morgan will be given chances.

disappointed in the owners we had 48hours to get a striker in and with player like Llorente, Aubameyang, Damiao and Sturridge available for under £20m shows what they think of LFC.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:02:34
Hi Eds, love the site. Utterly bemused with tonights lack of activity. When our main problem is scoring goals we now have less options than last year without Dirk and AC. We are in danger of becoming a laughing stock. At what point do windows close in foreign leagues?
Keep up the good work.
YNWA.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:02:29
I've cracked it! We can't sign anyone because of Ian Ayre's Jacamo clothing range he wears when meeting players! We got lucky with Sahin, maybe he thought he was a strange fan who had wondered off from the tour group, but Damiao and the rest took one look at Mr. Ayre in his stupid gettup and thought 'Is this guy serious?'

Oh and he sucks at his job too.

MikeyRed92 {Ed063's Note - lol}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:02:27
I'm sorry fellow fans but I stated this time last year that the owners were not going to continue to pay out large sums of money but would rely on the youth to come through. That is what is going to happen but too many fans expect it to happen today and have no patience at all.The likes of Dempsey are only a temporary solution. Please get behind the club and the team. If you feel that you can only complain all the time then go to another club. I think that we are going to be a lot better this season than many of you expect. We have already got several players who are going to be worth 20+ million pounds so just give them time to develop. Everything will be alright believe you me.
Dutchmal

We are behind the club DM, why do you think we moan when things don't go right for us?

The owners let us down.

I think it's a disgrace when one fan tells another fan to go support another club...it disgusting. (I sometimes wonder if the person saying it supports someone else, and hopes we go and support thier team instead).

Other than that, I know you're a true red and mean well. I also respect and agree with some of your posts.

StrabaneRed

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:02:26
gutted

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:02:25
hey edds really pissed off fan here. just wanted to know is there an opportunity to do loan signings after 1.9? Thanks for everything

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:02:24
Apart from Owen, are there any other free players out there that can sign now that the transfer window has closed?

Maybe there is going to be a mass promotion from the youth team (Morgan, Ngoo etc)

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:01:55
We made a late bid to sign some striker called W parks, dont know if it went throug though! {Ed063's Note - No we didnt}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:01:42
with owen being a free agent,we may aswell sign him,
i think that deal can be done anytime now that the window is closed,jesus this is embarassing,

unless i missed owen going to anyone today ed?

red jay {Ed063's Note - No one has signed him yet.......and for good reason!}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:01:06
please post i too the day off work for deadline day what a dissapointment feel et down and an awful season aheaf

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:00:57
Really dissapointing day,no striker in,fsg has let us down in the market

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:00:55
I genuinely wouldn't mind Owen at this point, purely to make up the numbers. This is an absolute joke; incompetence disguised as shrewdness, but the fact of the matter is we have two strikers, neither of whom are clinical goalscorers- Borini doesn't even look ready! Pathetic.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:00:43
Everyone out and nobody in on the final day , Liverpool should be able to balance the books better.Since Torres left we have not had a proper goal scorer , also noone in the reserves is ready so BR and the coaching staff will have to earn their money but with the players they have left.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:00:35
fsg have lot answer for..i cannot believe we havent signed a striker or anyone else!its seems as tho they lied to rodgers coz rodgers himself was expecting to sign at least 2 players 2day,how do they expect us to challenge for top 4 by not replacing carroll we need a goalscorer!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:00:32
compare Levy at spurs to our management team. We pay over the odds for average players and will always lose money on them.. He buys quality and sells on at a profit. We are being run by amateurs embarrassing.


Kev the Red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:00:22
So there you go people, You have been bashing me all summer for blaming owners. If there are still people out who wants to support them u guys need to admit in a hospital. Especially after what happened yesterday and today. I can't remember a worse day or the whole transfer window than this since i started supporting the club. Screw their policy and long term plan. We will be lucky if we stay top 10 until January. Just imagine if Suarez had freak injury and gone for some months like Lucas.

AJ

 

 

31 Aug 2012 23:00:17
Never in my life have i been so angry. We gave away 3 players and signed 0

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:59:57
What the hell has happened everyone knows we need a striker and we get no one at all

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:59:28
Not only was not signing Dempsey bad on a footballing level, but it was simply bad business practice. Dempsey's goals could have got us into the top 4, and, let's say, the quarter final of the europa league. The europa league prize money would have almost paid his fee alone! Add to the fact that Dempsey would have been a great assett in opening ourselves up to the american market. What this means therefore that unless Sterling, Morgan and Yesil bang the goals in unexpectedly, we have no choice but to buy in January. Now, of course, this will mean having to pay over the odds, and the loan options will be few and far between.

In short, we have cut our nose off to spite our face. I hope we do not live to regret the decision and don't look back and think 'we should have just paid what Fulham wanted.'

Rafa's Purple Goatie

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:59:20
Eds,

Throughtout today whenever people have said no one will sign to day... you guys have said they are persons and we will sign at leat 2 players if not more....

What happened.


what do you think of the management nwo? {Ed063's Note - I dont know why no one signed, it was a bizarre day.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:58:26
VORONIN CAME BACK ALL IS FORGIVEN...... Oh my god we are screwed if Suarez gets injured

Eds is babel a free agent?? {Ed001's Note - no he went back to Ajax.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:58:26
Lets's go and spend 35m on a player and then get rid of him when we need him more than ever. Why why why are Liverpool FC making stupid decisions like this. Over the last 20yrs we have made wrong decisions with management, players & owners. Hopefully BR will get the best out of what he has available but it's a tall order.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:58:16
I feel for Rodgers. He has been absolutely screwed by the owners.
Guys, as fans we need to get behind him all the more to show that he will never walk alone despite those personic owners holding their cheque book too tightly.

JitB JFT96
YNWA

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:58:09
Didn't want him before today, but can seriously see Michael Owen signing now.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:57:46
Ed pretty please post this on the banter page. As much as I love Liverpool,I'm afraid our beloved club is run by persons. Even a blind man can see we're in desperate need of a clinical finisher and AC leaving does not help at all. To be honest I'm furious as much as I am disappointed. Another season of ''we would have won if...'' and ''we were so close if only'' and ''...hit the post again''... dammit 8th again.
capetownred

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:57:26
"If Ian Ayre was negotiating a transfer at the bottom of my garden, I'd draw the curtains." - Bill Shankly.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:57:13
The fact that rogers was lied to is a bad bad sign! If our owners are already showing signs of going back on their words then this club is screwed! Its a horrible thought but the way i understood it, Rodgers would have complete control over transfers and would be given money. Next minute it was sell to buy, and Rodgers did the selling...then got left looking an arse like the rest of us!

gareth

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:56:37
are we keeping pachecho now seeing asthough we have no one else??

tom1975 {Ed063's Note - No hes gone too}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:55:59
I guess this is what it feels like to be an arsenal fan.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:55:53
Hi All am really worried we have not signed a striker ,how could we let Carroll go and Kuyt and Bellamy and only brought in a poor replacement in Borini ,just hope Suarez does not pick up an injury or the five months to january are going to be a very tough time.We should have had someone in the bag before Carroll was let go.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:55:29
I cannot believe now that Carroll was loaned out Rodgers is going to have have a lot of explaining now they have failed to sign a proven goal scorer.
I understand Carrolls role and he still offered something a little different looking over the transfer window we are screwed.
Almost the only club to come out worse off then they went in and still managed to spend 20 odd mill god.

Dont blame rodgers mate! we all know whos at fault!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:55:04
Liverpool the club with history, a history of bad decisions of laughable proportion, Managers, Players, Public relations, the club is becoming a joke.BR must be quite dispondant after today's farce.How can a club with CL expectations fail to replace a main striker after 18 months.£100m last year couldn't raise £6m this year.King Kennys crown has become Brendan Rodgers noose.

wevebeenshafted.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:54:38
I said it this morning as a joke but seriously we might just have to give ryan babel a call..MonaghanRed

He's gone back to Ajax

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:54:31
yesil could be playing more than we thought!? rodgers is no doubt as fuming as us...

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:54:17
Utterly disappointed with my beloved Liverpool Football Club today. I, like all of you on here, are passionate about the club and will support them through thick and thin. But what I find extremely distressing is that those higher up within the club don't have the same level of passion and desire, this latter point exemplified by today's shortcomings. Clint Dempsey has now gone to Spurs for 6 million (yes, a meagre 6 million that we couldn't cough up.) I do wonder how Ian Ayre is still in the job sometimes. To offer Jordan Henderson to Fulham is ridiculous. The boy has a fantastic attitude, works incredibly hard, but his problem is primarily with confidence. Attempting to flog him will not exactly ease these issues. He will become a class player. Additionally, to leave Carroll out in the cold and flog him to West Ham for the season when we do not have a suitable replacement is BAFFLING. Carroll repeatedly stated he wanted to fight for his place at the club and rightly so. Carroll showed us all in the latter stages of last season and over the summer his true potential. Cheers Andy for making John Terry look like a drunken amateur in the FA cup final. I hope he scores a bucket load at WHUFC and shows Rodgers what he is missing. WE FANS make the club. We go to the games, buy the merchandise, support the team and ultimately make the club the success it is today. I do believe the owners are the right ones, despite my anger at this current moment, but HOW do they expect us to be challenging on all fronts when we are severely short of a strikeforce. This ultimately puts outrageous amounts of pressure on Borini and Suarez. God forbid if either one gets injured. I don't know if those at the top realise, but the more goals you bang in, the more likely you are to win the game. We as fans, have just got to hope we have all the luck in the world with us on the pitch until the January transfer window opens again. If only those at the top had the same level of desire and passion as us fans. Such a shame that the transfer window ended in such disappointment after all the excitement of Sahin signing. Let's hope we can pick up our spirits for the game against the Gunners on the weekend. Come on you Red Men. YNWA.

P.S. Maybe Brendan is taking this "let's play like Barca" idea too far, as we will soon be lining up with our Central Midfield as our forward line.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:54:09
Tonight showed that LFC used transfer window to reduce wage bill, not to strengthen team. Gutted

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:53:57
What a farce. We need to sign some serious players in janurary or pull something right out of the bag in the next few months because tonight has been an absolute shambles.

Cheers eds, great effort all window as always.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:53:43
Don't blame rogers for the lack of activity today. Blame kenny and comolli for the millions wasted last year. Paying over the odds for sub standard players. Now most clubs think they can hold lfc to ransom over fees. Thanks kenny, u screwed us over.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:53:39
If I was Agger or Suarez I would seriously question where I would be in January!
No ambition from FSG/Ayre

Considering the Downing situation Dagger might be on the right wing and Suarez in goal (no jokes about Pepe's loss of form please, Class endures!)

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:53:28
I think we should all give the owners a break, they have spent a lot over the last few years and have every right to be careful with their money. Let's just support the team. {Ed063's Note - We have responsible owners who have backed us financially, today was the first bad day really. They played with fire and got burnt over Dempsey, we need to move on. Perhaps its not a bad thing as it will give the youngsters a chance}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:53:23
Any chance we are lining up loan players. Can this be done after 11pm.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:53:17
I sense that all of the Eds are just as pissed off as the rest of the fans. I feel sorry for you guys. Hardly slept the last few weeks and for what?. I would just like to say thanks Eds for all the hard work you guys have done, even if it was for nothing.

YNWA

Mikeyred92 {Ed063's Note - It was a very frustrating day where several deals were on one minute only to be off the next}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:53:06
Hey Ed, just wondering..
IN:
Allen(15m)
Sahin(loan)
Borini(10m)
Assaidi(2.4m)
Yesil(1m)
TOTAL:28.4m

OUT:
Spearing(loan)
Carroll(loan,1.5m)
Aquilani(5.5m)
Adam(4m)
Kuyt(1m)
TOTAL:11m

So we have only spent about 17.5m.. Why would FSG not just cough up another few million for a striker, considering Carroll could be gone for 18m next summer? Any ideas Ed(s)?
Cheers mate,
DublinRed.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:52:53
Bad night for LFC but this isn't the disaster some people think. If we look at the players actually sold (Adam, Kuyt, Maxi, Aquaman, Bellers) that's nt a lot of money or players we were relying on. Looking at the players bought (Borini, Allen, Assaidi) That's almost £30m and good quality.

We've loaned out Spearing and Carroll (the big move) with Sahin loaned in.

Rodgers isn't big on strikers (nor are Barca for that matter) and the players in and still there should contribute more under his system.

OK, ths has been a very bad day for LFC, but the owners have spent money, have not been reckless by overspending, and can still call players back from loan.

YNWA
Redfin

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:52:46
Give Pacheco a number already!! He and the 18 year old we singed yesterday and morgan are our only backup.! {Ed063's Note - He has left the club}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:52:26
I don't see any point in loaning out AC and then not replacing him! We are now much weaker with no depth or Plan B up front. We haven't addressed our key problem last year (having a consistent goal scorer) if we pick up any injuries or suspensions to our few forwards we are in deep trouble.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:52:26
What has happened in the last 2 days... lost players and brought no one into cover? Major mistake.
When does the Loaning transfer window open till?

FowlerGod.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:52:11
Absolutely gutted!

Too many players that don't want to permanently leave our great club cost us.

Personally I don't blame FSG, after all they have saved us and who can blame them for being a bit more financially cautious after the last couple of transfer windows. However I do have one question, what the hell is Ian Ayre still doing in any job of importance at LFC?! He is the one I would love to hear from as negotiator (he certainly takes credit when they are done) of bringing players in .... Terrible day at the office.

Eds thank you so much for all of your work, much appreciated by all of us and I'm sure you're all as disappointed as the rest of us.

ToonRed

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:52:02
What an absolute joke we are, truly upset and disappointed with the club tonight, it seems as though they never had any sort of plan what so ever. It's going to be a long wait till January :(

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:52:01
Fsg to mean to pay an extra million so we end up with nobody on transfer deadline day this will not go down well with the fans

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:51:57
So we all know that there is no value in the Jan market so it looks like no striker until next summer. Maybe Owen wouldn't be so bad! Better than nobody. YNWA

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:51:43
Finally the truth emerges...
Ian Ayre " rubbish I thought it was supposed to be a comedy, not a bloody documentary!"

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:51:21
Mikey Owen to celtic
amc

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:51:18
what on earth is going on! No signing! Why let carroll then! We will be screwed till january! Wrap luis up in cotton wool! Where will the goals come from?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:50:43
Well Done Liverpool for breaking all the liverpool fans with the promises that you said.. We all expected Dempsey, Ramirez, Walcott, but instead you gave us ZILCH NOTHING ZERO...

Sincerly Yours a disgusted LFC fan DuffBeer !

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:50:52
Is Pacheco on his way out?
Can LFC call back AC back?
Are we allowed to sign a player on loan
after the Deadline? {Ed063's Note - No we cant recall Andy}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:50:39
Is Ayres doomed? He shoould be!!

Sid

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:50:23
So it looks like it will be the dynamic strike force of suarez, borini, owen and heskey, just great!
Lfckid

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:50:06
How has it come to this? Surely BR has proved his worth by off loading players and reducing the wage bill so why have FSG not supported him and allowed him to indulge in Clint Dempsey? Any idea Eds?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:50:04
I was in Liverpool tonight and I've met Suarez in the philomonic, he gave me half a pint of his beer saying '
I can't finish that' - typical! {Ed063's Note - Haha!}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:49:21
i think some supporters were right when they said that there will be a surprise in the end , i always had faith and backed brendan rodgers and the owners but this is too much , i mean if we dont have the money you coudve off told us not sell our back-up striker and not plan on getting anyone else .


sabe3

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:49:02
Really dissapointed that we have let Caroll go and not replaced him. FSG are a bunch of persons just as bad as the other Yanks that owned us. If Suarez gets injured or banned who do we have, even with him we aren't scoring goals enough goals. We are not going to win the league in this century!!!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:48:44
Our new motto "we come not to pay"

Pmsl funniest thing all day. Thanks for the laugh.

StrabaneRed

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:48:43
Tonight we suffered the results from both the lack of commercial investment in the last 20 years, and the poor investment of the KK period. We seem to lack a co-hesive direction as a club and are currently stagnating. bR has made some good signings but not enough. He has also shown his inexperience in the handling of the AC situation.

This is going to be a tough season and my fear is that without a strong showing we will lose are best players either in January or at the end of an unsuccessful season.

As a result we risk as a club going backwards not forward. Even Everton with their financial problems have a better balanced squad than us.

Tomorrow is another day I suppose.

Midlandred

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:48:18
I am an American and Liverpool supporter so let me be the first to say i am beyond disappointed in the club today. We need goals, and they sign no one. Its going to be a long season.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:48:05
Well done we just managed to make our squad even weaker
Suarezs and borini plus Morgan left whey the hell did we let Andy Carroll go bring back Bellamy and dirk

I think the best we can hope for now is dirty Micky owen back can't believe I've said that

Top 4 chance gone today :(

Sad red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:47:53
Who cares about Dempsey? He's 29 for crying out loud. About time Liverpool stopped throwing good money around for poor return. We have got Joe Allen this window who looks fantastic, we have Sahin on loan, let's see how he does. We have Sterling stepping up and he's been great so far. The club has even managed to ship out some of the lightweights, just a pity that bludger Joe Cole is still around drawing his obscene salary. Be positive folks, small steps, Rome wasn't built in a day and we're not ManC.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:47:36
we are now a mid to bottom table team dreading the season now and no before anyone says spend big money ffs we could have improved with minimum spending not happy

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:47:12
The one good thing sorry the only good thing to come out of tonight is that the youngsters will have to get there chance now

Mat lfc

Accept one of the best suso has just one on loan

Chris r

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:46:35
If the club had planned on offloading Carrol from before, they should have held onto kuyt for the season. The guy had been deployed as a winger all his career and he could have finally played as a striker, I think he could have fitted into BR's style. Anyway I will be happy with a 5-6 palce finish this year. Cant balme BR when the owners are being so stubborn, I bet he is as shocked as to know he has only 2 forwards. Maybe we do what spain did in the world cup and play with a false 9 like fabregas. Sometimes u cant help but wish that the club had been bought buy some oil barons instead of the yanks.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:46:35
Hope nobody paid for info from there sources!! If so I woul be looking for my money back.. The most anti-clinactic transfer deadline ever! Looks like Suarez is going to have to carry the goal scoring burden hinself, although I think borini will chip in with a few. I wouldn't blame BR either, he doesn't carry the purse..

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:46:22
Sorry for being so irritated but is there anything we can do to get Ian Ayre dismissed. He is clearly out of his league.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:46:05
Micheal Owen?

Edds shed some light?

Harry In Wiltshire

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:46:03
Shame on Liverpool, another window, another bunch of targets lost to rivals. Top four looking unlikely indefinitely with only TWO strikers!

MHD

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:45:57
David Ngog to sign on loan as he is the only one who can now get to Melwood before 11pm deadline.

Seriously though, Eds, does it have to be fee agreed, medical done and personal terms agreed to meet the deadline?

Crap day, but we will need to move on and get back behind the team again on Sunday.

BobbyF

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:45:01
No Bellers, no Dirk, no Maxi, no Plan B Andy - who have we got who can actually score in open play? Answers on a postcard to BR please. Our lack of a finisher is potentially blight our whole season. Hard to feel optimistic right now.
ND

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:44:58
Going to be very interesting to hear what Brendan Rodgers has to say tomorrow, I'm sure he feels as betrayed as the rest of us!

Ciario

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:44:57
First time post. I am in the states,Texas, and for the life of me can't figure out why we lost Dempsey?? He wanted LFC more than anything?

Gonna be a ruff season, and all of our competitors added to their roster! How can we expect to be top 4 with such weak signings

Have faith we are red or dead my friend we Will never walk alone

It's quite simple really, Liverpool thought they would try and get Clint on the cheap by screwing over Fulham. This has been the plan for weeks now and he turned down Villa and Sunderland, but Spurs were too hard to turn down as they are a bigger club than Liverpool now. Ayre trying to screw over Fulham and get Dempsey on the cheap cost Liverpool. Liverpool wanted a striker to replace Carroll and a winger to come in. Fans thought they were getting Dempsey and Walcott, but got Yesil and Assaidi instead for a combined £3.4m. Liverpool are pennyless.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:44:51
Shame on Liverpool, another window, another bunch of targets lost to rivals. Top four looking unlikely indefinitely with only TWO strikers!

MHD

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:44:49
Evening to all Eds & Fellow Reds

The following could be our most effective lineup till Jan2013

Reina

Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique

Sahin Allen Shelvey

Gerrard Borini

Suarez

Subs to choose from:
Doni
Coates
Henderson
Sterling
Assaidi
Kelly
Downing
Carragher
Morgan
Lucas (when completely match fit)
Flanagan

Cant fathom why some reds are saying relegation is even a possibility. Just hoping that Gerrard and Suarez can combine like how the former did with Torres between 07-10. Also hoping that Borini and Sahin settle down soon. Keep the faith, lets not encourage any ridiculous banners or protests against FSG or BR, after all it is a business for our owners that they intend to passionately support and if the damage has already been inflicted by our previous owners they wont dissapear in just 18 months .We must endure and if we are taking a hit for a year max maybe we shall once again be a force to reckon with.

Thoughts please.

Cheers
Ani

PS: Eds a real massive job you lot have carried out through out the transfer window. Truly admirable.

Great post. Very refreshing in these times of doom.

Guys, I am just as devastated. Our hopes were built up only to be dashed on the final day. I know the owners said we have the resources to compete, Brendan said we will need someone to replace Carroll before selling, our squad is thin, trying to win the EPL for Stevie etc.

But this is real life, we are not playing fifa or cm. We cannot reset and go back again. Sure, somebody screwed up big time in this transfer. Maybe he will pay the price, maybe he won't. We all know someone who screwed up big time and got away with it.

But ask ourselves, would Dempsey not coming in change us from a Top 4 team into relegation candidates? Just one player?!? Come on!! I like Dempsey, and would be ecstatic if we got him. But we didn't.

Let's get behind the boys right now! That is what they need from us. Anyone care to guess how Skrtel or Suarez must be feeling now? What about Stevie who is probably going to retire in a few years time? The reality is we still have strong squad. Everyone just have to work harder to chip in those goals until Jan.

To the Eds, you are probably gutted and getting slagged for your inputs / predictions. Nothing can ever take away the fine work you guys have put in. Thanks for your hard work!

DCsg

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:44:39
Hey eds great work as always. Just wanted to ask if there are any players like owen but from any position without a club who in your opinion may be able to add something to our squad? cheers CRAIG {Ed001's Note - I haven't looked at the free agents to be honest, so I can't think of any and I certainly wouldn't want Owen.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:44:26
what a load of rubbish..we sell maxi, Kuyt, carroll and bellers, and we sign Borini and a couple of no marks. cant believe it...we are usless in the transfer market...have been for years. id take michael owen right now..

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:44:23
I have a little theory I'd like to run by you all. Liverpool are looking for more firepower to put together a significantly inproved squad. We have Carroll, but we feel we need more. So, we ask about Dempsey, Sturridge even Walcott and are told by their respective clubs that business can be done. We then decide to LOAN, not sell, Carroll in the hope that money comes in at the end of the season. Once that is done; we even get Damaio offered at a ridiculous price so we enter talks. Then, Fulham, Chelsea, Arsenal and the Brazillian club just jerk us around untill we have no time to do anything else. Now, we are set to finish well behind all the aforementioned clubs and Spurs who might have played us through their Brazillian buddies. I know this is reaching, but that's what happens when you sit around all day waiting for nothing.

P.S. I wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers quit because of today.

(a very depressed) Canadian Fan

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:44:22
seriously, heads need to roll for this - what a farce, we look like penny pinching, potless losers.
any truth in the rumours that BR is considering his position ? - have to say he's been royally shafted by Ayre / FSG.

Yes, it is true. Rodgers is considering his position.
How would you feel if you were stabbed in the back ?

Fly on the wall.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:44:16
pele and john Barnes seen at melwood well as much chance as any player tonight

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:43:58
same thing again....we just think everyone wants to play for us and so we dont need to pay much .....please tell the top brass...THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO...

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:43:44
John William Henry II (born September 13, 1949) is an American futures and foreign exchange trading advisor who founded John W. Henry & Company (JWH). He is the principal owner of the Boston Red Sox and Liverpool Football Club, and co-owner of Roush Fenway Racing. In March 2006, Boston Magazine estimated his net worth at $1.1 billion, but noted that his company had recently experienced difficulties.[1] In May 2007, reports in the Wall Street Journal[2] and Bloomberg noted further difficulties with the firm.

Nuff said

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:42:47
Why the f**k are have we let Eccleston go as we will need him on Sunday!!

Very disappointed from a very loyal Red.
Cornish Red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:42:41
100% confirmed no signings for lfc

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:42:30
if we don't get anyone can see our top players being utterly disappointed and leaving as soon as they can, MrT

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:42:23
The team that scores the most goals wins, we seem to not want to score goals but get high possession stats, well done br let's get the top 4 with 0-0 draws.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:42:10
Phil McNulty

"Seems very much like tonight was the night Brendan Rodgers picked up the tab for £100m spending under Kenny Dalglish.

My thoughts exactly.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:42:09
Very disappointing day for LFC fans, really can't believe how short of experienced attackers were left with.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:42:08
Tom Werner, Said "We have the money to compete with any team in the world" that was on the 21st July 2012,

Fast Forward 31st August 2012 (Tonight he should be saying the squad is weaker than it was on Thursday Morning 30th August 2012.. Because we played
poker with the clubs Season and Lost


Deano95

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:42:04
Hi Ed's,

Any idea how much we got for
Nathan Ecclestone?

Will Adam + Ecclestone funds be given to BR to fund a loan deal?

Great work on anti-climactic night

Warrington Red {Ed001's Note - I am pretty sure it was a free transfer.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:41:59
not a rumour i know but a very dissapointed red if we dont sign a forward in this window. surely the yanks cant be haggling over 1 or 2 million quid or is it another ian ayres masterstroke the man couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery.if this is the case and brenden rogers wanted someone in i think it will be very interesting at melwood in the morning.what do we do if saurez gets injured

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:40:18
I like Brendan Rodgers a lot and think he will turn out to be spot on. however, i have backed our owners and been supportive but this is worrying times for any LFC supporter. Who knows we might end up doing well until christmas but Suarez is going to have to hit the target and not the woodwork on every attempt and our midfield are going to have to be really solid and Defense not making anymore silly errors!

I, Like every other normally non moaning supporter am shocked that Carroll left on Loan without us being sure of Dempsey or another great striker!?

I have been naive and truly thought if we let him go on loan we must be damn sure of troops coming in. Its hard to believe we have ourselves in this position

Gareth

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:40:05
With FSG reducing the wage bill to this extent basically stripping the first team down to the bare bones, does this make it eaiser for them to sell us? {Ed063's Note - Who of our best players left? Agger stayed, Skrtle stayed, Reina stayed, Gerrard stayed, Suarez stayed, Lucas stayed, Sahin joined, Allen joined etc. We offloaded players not in Rodgers plans}

Ed 63,

Good point. But squad is now threadbare if anyone is injured and apart from Allen team is no better than last year. In fact it is worse because our forward line is so weak.

Sahin is going to need time to adapt and to get match fit after the injuries. so do not expect him to show much for first few months. Then he will go back to real Madrid.

the Sahin deal is making less and less sense to me as it will disruot the team next season when he leaves.

Orrin

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:39:58
Well, what an anti-climax. Nevermind, it'll soon be January.
So, Eds, what are the chances of Cavani joining us in that window......ha ha ha.
Rigsby.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:39:58
so yesil will be part of the first team sqaud it seems and he was saying in his interview, i ll train hard for one to two years and then hopefully make the first team,, sorry son you re starting next week.......

tom1975

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:39:44
i feel so empty right now... All that waiting and optimism lead for nothing absolutely nothing. Byebye top 4.

Realistic Red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:39:40
Bitter disappointment is an absolute understatement. Surely BR would not have sanctioned Adam & Carroll (although they didn't really work - they could have been vital if we have any injuries) leaving if he thought we might possibly sign no-one today.

Is there any chance of a striker coming in last minute?

Been glued to the site all day! Keep up the good work, and fingers crossed!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:39:33
Cheer up reds. I would rather have Allen than Adam and borini than Carroll. Let's all get behind the team and BR. We've also got Morgan young up and coming striker who will surely get a chance. You never know he could be the next Robbie Fowler.
Thanks for all your hard work Eds. no doubt the merry-go-round will commence in January.
Cheers
Red Nick {Ed063's Note - That is definitely one positive - the talented youth at Liverpool will get a chance}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:39:16
Hot News
WE have just offered £20m for Carroll
Current England International with lots of potential.


..Oh come on reds smile eh

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:38:43
Ed, I am a little confused why we have not aleast bought a striker and how the squad has been left so light. Is this a deliberate act by the owners or has the whole process just not been managed very well, through incompetence?

FT {Ed063's Note - I honsetly dont know what to say, Dempsey was ours if we out an acceptable offer on the table and we didn't. I dont know why not}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:38:26
well the same thing happened last january when we were crying out for a striker, everyone was convinced we,d get one then nothing happened. well we appear to be going down the same route. if i was BR i wouldnt be happy fsg have let lfc down.
billy

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:38:24
Nathan Eccleston another Red gone, another striker at that. There must be something in the works to bring players in or it would be abolute madness not to add to the squad!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:38:14
So we go into the next four months with our best XI
Pepe
Johnson, Agger, Skyrtel, Enrique
Sahin, Allen, Gerrard
Sterling, Suarez, Borini

Subs - Coates, Henderson, Downing, Morgan, Cole, Assaidi.

Sorry to say but the options are so limited. We will struggle no doubt and if gerrard or suarez get injured we will be in big trouble. Perhaps we should get Owen on a free.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:38:09
No strikers, no goals, no hope. The owners, the management need to go. They have let the supporters and the club down. How can you lose 2 strikers and no replace them and expect to score more goals than last season. Ian Arye you a joke. Steve. Cumbria.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:38:02
i'd take Michael Owen right now! so we have another striker

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:37:56
Absolutely gutted at the moment...why do we do this to ourselves every window?

I can only ope BR has a plan B in terms of how to get goals from the squad we have. Maybe Suarez will become the new Van Persie and score a boatload.

I'm sure I'll feel better in a day or two, especially if we can get 3 points off the Gooners, but at the moment absolutely gutted...

A BIG, BIG thanks to all the eds for their unflagging efforts and for putting up with whiners like me.

Cheers, all.

Doha Red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:37:54
Eds,

Do you think it has been a good Transfer window for Liverpool FC? How long can Rodgers or Ayre now survive?

Fanbase is changing to younger fans who do not have the same patience and want a club that competes. This is not one that will for a long long time. we are now too far behind and our only hope is resting on our academy as it is clear FSG are not willing to invest.

So next summer we will really need the following:

Replacement for Sahin (end of loan- he will not stay seeing the mess we are in)
Replacement for Carroll (Being sold)
Replacement for Henderson (clearly not wanted)
Replacement for Carragher (Age has caught up)
Replacement for Gerrard (Not a regular starter)
Extra striker (to make 4)
Extra Right Winger (No cover)

We have maybe Suso coming through and that is about it.

Where is the money coming from for this. We do not have too many crown jewels to sell.

FSG so focused on Financial fair Play that they forget we need to qualify first. Also not sure if FFP is for the Europa League or just the Champions League.

Orrin {Ed001's Note - it is not a good window, though it is not as bad as it feels right now, we got an immense player in Allen.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:37:36
Susaeta, Muniain, Llorente, Dempsey, Walcott, Damiao, etc etc ? LOL. Have I missed anyone out ? Probably quite a few

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:37:31
well, that deadline day went well.......

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:37:30
Whoever said no one was being signed was right it also makes sense why Morgan played the other night ,he will be cover on the bench we have no money the squad is going to be made up of reserves we are in trouble

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:37:30
Why didn't Dempsey have to do a medical at tottenham

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:37:28
Its obvious these yanks dont know how to do business in the transfer market.First they say we have bought dempsey 2 months ago,then fulham report rodgers to the PL for tapping up, now we lose out to the spuds. Gutted no striker coming in dont know where goals are coming from

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:37:28
FSG: **** SCORING GOALS #WeComeNotToScore

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:35:03
Just one question, if theres no one in the offices, how can nathan just sign for blackpool? preying for a striker, please tell me theres a chance ed, keep up the good work

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:54
I assume the bitching money mad
Kneejerkers didn't see the way we played
Last Sunday!

Chin-up we made the signing of the
Season in Joe Allen

Lyndon

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:39
Kuyt, maxi, Bellamy, Carroll, Pacheco, ecclestone all out. Left are Suarez, borini, sterling, Morgan, downing, assaidi and maybe cole to cover top three places. Anyone else a little worried?

Cheers
Greggers

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:37
Not happy like everyone else but can't agree with all the comments about the owners....unfortunately, they did back us and spend big but it was last year, and a lot of money was wasted on mostly rubbish by Kenny and Commoli. Got to stick together lads, back BR and the owners and accept we are balancing the books and ride out the storm. We are the best fans in the world, so let's show it and trust that the good times will return. We have the right man in charge, i truly believe that!!
RedMatt

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:27
Southampton sign ramirez... missed out there!

HBRed

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:25
eds reds been upto melwood tonight , nothing , saw ian ayre drive out , a web site drove out but it seems they went to anfield ,but it seems nothing anyway. dempsey gone to spurs!! what the hells going on? steviep62.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:25
Another lfc striker leaves - Nathan Eccleston to Blackpool!

PJH

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:25
With no-one being bought on the last day and with the wage bill being cut down have liverpool at least broke even in terms of finances this summer after buying allen and co?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:23
There must be a signing Eds. Rogers said it would be suicidel to let Carroll go without a replacement at this stage of the transfer window. what do you think? ps, great reading all day,thanks {Ed063's Note - Samed Yesil? The 18 year old German lad we signed?}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:36:55
Massive cock up by our owners we really are a disaster when it comes to transfer market.We let 3 first teamers go with a already slim squad and bring no one in complete and utter balls up.

I too am gutted. We have really handled this transfer period badly in comparison to our rivals. Maybe there is another agenda who knows? The important thing is to not only be a fan of LFC but to be a member. Buy a membership and support the club financially. It's the only way to ensure our long term survival. Hopefully current/future management will get it right in restoring this once great club to where it belongs...On Top! YNWA.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:36:50
I would like to see stevie g's face tomorrow when Brendan tells him he can still realise his dream of winning the premier league with LFC.I will always be grateful for fsg saving us from administration but tonight has just taken the piss we are falling further and further behind the top six never mind the top four.I'm a lifelong LFC fan but these are worrying times.

JR Red.

I think stevie was wachn Ssn like the rest of us and pulling his hair out

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:36:45
The owners have a lot to answer for. We have lost Belamy, Kuyt & Carroll. And bought Borini. Squad has been stripped and other clubs around us have strengthened. Something is not right!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:36:39
Ian ayre has joined the circus as a clown and fsg have joined the debating group 'talk is cheap' they found it easier than paying a few extra million for dempsey or competing with the best. Must say not signing anyone feels like a loss especially on my birthday!

Lil Red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:36:22
Just seen Collymore in a car park in his car He keeps flashing his lights at me Is this a sign that he wants me or is he really signing and thinks I'm Ian Ayre

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:36:17
what the hell has gone on nobody coming in and we let a striker go out on loan who broke the transfer record for us this is unbelievable and i have been a red since 71

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:36:15
OMG This is just a joke, never been so dissapointed in LFC in my whole life

Think that FSG really need to give BR the financial backing we need to actual compete or it looks like we are going to be siting in mid table, I just cant believe this

A really concerned red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:35:57
Time for Brendan to earn his corn!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:35:49
This is a complete joke i didnt mind caroll going to west ham cos i thought we had a replacement lined up now we have no back up striker except morgan... really hope something happens in the next 25mins but i doubt it.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:21
am really struggling to believe carroll would of gone without us replacing him fulham were always going to be akward after hodgson and now dempsey also knowing there would be other clubs apart from us interested the deal should of been done days ago to avoid this scenario and if it had ended in deadlock then we would of had time to look at other options. arrogance,ignorance,stupidity,bad management all said in the alan hansen manor by fsg just hope br doesnt take any stick as he been let down by fsg as much as anyone and as far as owen rumours going round id rather stick with what we have that lad would sell his own gran if he thought he could get a medal for her proper mercenary

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:20
We just got rid of another striker something has t be going on..not trying to be optimistic jus amazed and completely confused! The yanks will walk alone

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:09
The Writings on the wall for everyone to see, we need a proven goalscorer and what do we do send out Andy on loan faff out about over pittance for dempsey, are we so self assured that other clubs would just bend over and sell to us? we will be out of champions league contention by November, Mid table by Xmas fighting Relegation by febuary. I am sure that if we we appointed AVB, Van Gaal, Laudrup and even Benitez again none of them would of left us so lightweight.
I realy hope borini suarez and Morgan, Pacheo are the answer but i am going to go to bed slightly worried.
Is owen still a possibility after Today!!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:34:07
this is pathetic, not being funny but if suarez and borini get injured then we are screwed! FSG want champions league but not willing to invest! i am praying there is a player coming, im praying...

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:33:58
Top ten side is all we are!!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:33:52
Can not believe we let big andy leave and alive not replaced him. If the owners think we will make top four with the strikers we have they are in for a shock top half if we lucky ! Gutted

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:33:36
a lot of pessimistic fans on here. while a goal scorer would have been nice, it wasn't vital to our success. based on our performances so far (and we're still developing) we've looked superb. the players we sold we didn't play and our young players are filling the gaps well. i'm glad to see that rodgers and fsg will not be forced into making ridiculous buys just because it's deadline day. dempsey is too old to command a large fee. and while the difference was 2 million or so, by principle we should have said no. as for carroll, he doesn't fit with this style of play. never have we brought him on and he has been a game changer. i think liverpool will be great this year! in rodgers we trust! YNWA!

What a ridiculous thing to say. A goalscorer was vital. It is what we lack more than anything.

Sahin and Allen will not pitch in with 10 goals, Suarez is not a natural finisher and Borini is a young guy. We will be lucky to hit 50 goals this season which is a requiirment to make the top half.

Orrin

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:33:29
what shambles tonight has been. There is no chance we will sign anyone

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:33:09
Ecclestone finally leaves for Blackpool

Great! another striker goes... doom and gloom!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:33:08
Drenthe and Owen are both free so I guess if we are desperate they may be worth a pop ? No deadline to worry about either. What do you think ?

Johnty

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:33:06
Never fear Ian ayre has just popped out for a euromillions ticket in an attempt to raise some much needed funds! If we get the winner llorente will be signing before 11pm!
Mr optimisim

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:33:06
what happens now if saurez gets injured or banned??????? we are srewed. will knotty ash

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:32:44
Doesn't look like we will be making anymore signings...you never know though.

Just would like to Thank the eds for always giving their all even when we give them a tough time. They've truly been great this transfer window.

Thanks eds you're all #1 (even if you're not Ed001)

Stanz

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:32:25
hi ed with us not bringing any more in do you think we might see the german lad playing in the first team sooner than expected.
gaz {Ed063's Note - I would expect to see a fair bit of Morgan personally}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:32:23
Last minute deal for south American sensation Winston Parks being trashed out, work permit already granted but time us against us.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:32:20
Adam was rumoured to be 4 million.
Didn't we get 2 million up front for initial fee in Carroll loan deal? (or was it 1, or 0?)

Can't see how we couldn't match Spurs bid, even on sell-to-buy basis.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:32:16
Gutted with our performance today but I would be more gutted if I were a spurs fan. At least we've signed Allen(class), Borini(potential) and Sahin(Alonso). They have replaced Modric with siggurdson, van der vaart with Dempsey and freidel with lloris. Have they actually improved at all?? I think not! Still think we need a striker but here's hoping that Suarez/Borini/Sterling step up and start to find the back of the net.

Allen is a class player but will score around 2 goals.

Sahin will take a while to settle in and then he will be gone. He is not going to stick around. He will score a maximum of 2 goals.

Borini is an outside forward and will be lucky to get into double figures.

Where as the spuds have also bought Bembele to replace Modric. then they have two goalscoring midfielders in Siggurdson and Dempsey who will both make double figures.

Spurs are stronger than last year as they have more depth in their squad. We have much less.

Orrin

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:32:08
See you all in January ! Maybe ?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:32:00
Cannot blame Ayre on this, simple fact is we don't have any funds. FSG are not interested, this window shows it. They have stitched BR up over the last couple of days to get the wage bill down. I reckon they are getting the books ready to sell the club.....(fingers crossed)

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:31:56
what happened with damiou?
lucky the red {Ed063's Note - Wage demands stopped the deal. That was the end of it}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:30:54
Can a deal be done this late, I mean with medical and personal terms etc. ?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:30:52
Hi Eds what do you think happened tonight?

Can you believe we let Carrol go out without a replacement?

Rodgers has been saying the squad is ligjt but we have since let 3 players go without a replacement.

What is going on.

Everyone wss confident if people went out we wou;d get 1 or 2 in... but I can't see what the owners are thinking.

Ian Ayre definitely is not a good negotiater..
Something has to change.

Through out the day all the eds thought we would have 1-2 or more people in....

so you must all be disappointed and questioning why...

Macc has always said trust the owners they have money...

but... I hae to be honest today does not make sense....


Red Indian. {Ed001's Note - Ayre tried to be clever and unfortunately he isn't.}

I don't think it's just Ayre.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:30:46
please post eds !! what the hells going on ? why have liverpool football club allowed players to leave and not replaced them , unbeliveable !! we have waited far to long , to get are bussiness done , be lucky to finish top 8

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:30:44
FSG recently got rid of the 3 biggest contracts on the books at the Red Sox without replacing them (to the best of my knowledge). Now they get rid of Carroll and several others without replacements.

Im worried. FSG have been a bag of rubbishe so far. They just brought us and put us on the shelf until a manager can magic up Champs League football from knowhere.

Unfortunately, I think Kenny and Commoli blew our only shot at getting them to spend money last year with some awful buys.

Good luck Brendan. We are right behind you, but not those who employ you.

Embarrassing night.

Red G

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:30:35
Now we see that we are still on our way down and not up.

Small time,disapointing today.
Sold everyone and not nearly enough replacements.
This is small time,absoloutly gutted.

My beloved club is still sinking.

Fu. !

Goodnight everybody, we should absoloutly show the owmers and bosses what we think on sunday. That this is not acceptable.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:30:26
We sold adam for 4mill, we have saved AC's wages,how is it we could not afford the 6mill spuds have paid for Dempsey?

alan50

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:30:15
Scraping the barrel I know, but I think now we may have to take a punt on Owen ...

He will do till January. It's pathetic that we are in this situation really.

I agree. lets go for the lost lad, and get him back home!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:29:43
Thanks fsg screwed up again where are our signings borini just not good enough, Carroll gone Adam gone spearing gone and no one to replace them your having a giraffe.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:29:38
Looks like Rodgers has quit the managers job to take up weather reporting on the BBC.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:29:35
FSG are looking to sell the club,hence why they've been shipping players out left right and centre.With all the players gone since the summer the wage bill has been cut by nearly 26m.This they are hoping will attract a new owner.They have no money to strenghen the squad,and no money for a new stadium.They have told close aids that they know liverpool fans will not put up with another episode of false promises.Im sorry to report but the turmoil is about to start again people.

It does look like asset stripping...

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:29:34
Oh I'm such an unhappy fan after this ! ! Spurs and all the other going for 4th strengthen their sides and we weaken ours ,just can't get my head around this ! ! Are we supposed to have a heart attack every time suarez goes down from a tackle now , just can't believe the club has done this , clowns

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:29:32
Ian ayre to resign. The man has absolutely no clue what he's doing at least Damien comolli brought in players

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:28:54
We the Liver are the best team in the league with the hottest young manager in town. All you haterz ou t there are going to hate because you plastic glory hunters are plastic glory hunting hunters, No?


Red Plight

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:28:05
Hi eds,
seeing as we wont sign anyone, can we recall carroll?
FBIRED {Ed063's Note - No}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:27:52
i hope borini can improve because i`m not convinced by him, because we will be looking at him to bag 15-20 goals this season if we are to get anywhere near 4th spot, if we don`t win against arsenal on sunday there will be a massive backlash, the owners have just heaped a load more pressure on BR, the big man gone,no replacement, very dangerous ground for everyone involved

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:27:45
3 hours ahead where I am now, gutted, early start in the morning to.
Ed's any chance of a list of the targets we tried for now the window is closed. Maybe in the morning. Good night Ed's and fellow reds, and remember we slagged them off all year for paying to much and not giving the kids a chance, step on up Mr Morgan and Co.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:27:44
We are still paying the price for allowing the first lot a yanks to run our club! We live in a world where football clubs are run like a business. What only seems like a couple of million pounds that FSG wouldnt stretch to for Dempsey is a fundemental business philosophy that they have built there business on....... Doesnt help us on the pitch, we are going to struggle!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:27:43
what will happen if suarez/borini gets injured?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:27:37
So Dempsey gone for 6mil, we wouldnt offer more than 4mil..yet, three outgoings today (combination of loan and transfer fees aswell as reducing the wage bill) and we wouldnt offer the extra few million, then to top it off, we let the big man go (who didn't want to leave, and wanted to stay and fight)...then to top it off we struggled against hearts, where it was clear we needed more quality, and Morgan is nowhere near ready... what the hell is going on, eds?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:27:21
We've been had by the yanks again, i know i'm going to get slated here but i just don't care. I'm scouse and proud from the day i was born i have loved our club bought all tops and went to as mant games as i can. I just can't be bothered with all the lies and false hope these so called business men bring upon ouyr club any longer. For years now we have been dragged through the mud with americans and i just want them GONE. As the good old americans say... you talk the talk but you can't do the premiership walk. We will always be duped and no doubt ian ayre will get the blame for this as a smoke screen. The americans sign the cheque book not Mr ayre. They put us in this position so we need to look at how they handle buisness in my eyes very BADLY

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:27:18
Disaster night?
the transfer 'game' seems to have failed BIG time... not complaining just a bit shocked more than anything. if Suarez gets injured at the start of the season before Borini settles we may struggle a bit, although i was impressed with Morgan last night and sterling has been a revelation since pre season, coming on leaps and bounds!
bit gutted we didn't get close to walcott, we obviously weren't interested in gaston too much, nor were city and spurs!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:27:00
hi Eds... thanks for your hard work very disapointed

Im calling on fsg to sell the club we are going further behind the top teams spurs have now pushed outa the top 5.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:26:47
What are we playing at haven't they seen that we can not score and there not correcting that with a land mark signing come on FSG thought you where going to turn this club around....

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:26:24
Well there you have it. What a day to remember, a day that saw Liverpool football club offically become the laughing stock of the EPL. Not only did we let players leave this transfer window for next to nothing, we have failed to replace some of them, and most importantly, have failed to aquire what was clear to fans and pundits alike; a goalscorer. Sure Suarez could score 20. Maybe even Borini could. England could win the World Cup, the champions league final could be held on the moon but I seriously doubt it.

And to top it off, we have loaned yes loaned out a player who cost us 35m pounds nearly 2 years ago, who was one of only two strikers in the first team, and now, the man everybody had excepted to join, has now ended up at our closest rival for 4th place, which we are now miles from getting. Just like Siggurdsson. Only this time we couldn't even afford the sodding 6m fee.

One word. PATHETIC.

Even Fulham now have a goalscorer, and we are left with egg on our faces. You can't blame BR. He had a plan. But he didn't plan on working under two guys who can't tell a football from a pigskin, and a man that should be advertising for Jacamo rather than be our 'managing director'. Hang your heads in shame because your lack of backbone in this transfer window has left this great club up rubbish creek without a paddle.

Why is it that this football club is completely clueless when it comes to the transfer window? Seriously? We should have realised that when we sold one of the best strikers in the world and replaced him with a complete donkey for 35m, followed by a 100m spending spree that saw us drop 2 places.

I was fully behind the owners this season, but having failed to address the most basic of problems within the squad, and to some extent created even more problems, I can only predict the future; a league campaign that sees us dominate most games yet fails to find the net. I can't believe I acutally believed we would sign Damiao. Not a chance with the 3 stooges running the show.

Forgive me eds and fellow site users, but I am in complete diserray by how this once great establishment is now being run by people who are completely incompetent, and no I don't blame the manager, I feel sorry for him.

Here's to getting 8th place.

Losing the Faith,

MikeyRed92

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:26:21
Why is pacheco being let go now that we have no forwards?!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:26:16
I don' t think any real fan would have moaned about getting rid of the players that have gone (loan or not), this club need rebuilding, no more panic buys, no more average players, go with the youth and let BR do his job, build his vision and let the financial guys make us a force, I want to see a few years of stability and direction that is the only way a vision can be realised, keep the faith jft96

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:26:12
We are a joke fsg cleared the wage bill at the red sox and they have done the same here
Who do we blame Rodgers ayre or fsg. I can't believe that Rodgers would have let carroll go without already having a replacement at the door ayres pathetic way of going about business and his dealings have been a joke for a while now and he needs to go or do we blame fsg for not giving us a little money that we need to buy a striker. They said we could compete with anyone and we can't simple as that
Why did we waste 1mil on the yesil kid yesterday when we needed it today
Highly disappointed I can't believe that we haven't signed a striker today
Jbplfc

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:26:04
Ian Ayre.FAIL ! >-Z


Stevie.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:26:03
Guys who needs dempsey when we got borini. Good way to blow 11mil pounds.

No point in blaming Borini.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:25:49
We've totally screwed this up!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:25:44
Dempsey signed 3 year deal at Spurs, lot of angry LFC fans today, hope the owners come out and explain thier motives, 6m for godsake, and Carroll gone.. Great stuff FSG

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:25:22
Fullham wanted more money from us than what Tottenham was willing to pay...

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:25:03
persons letting dempsey go personS

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:25:03
just a big thanx to all the eds who bring us the info, even if you do get stick for it

rob {Ed063's Note - Cheers mate - as Ed052 said earlier the biggest thankyou definitely has to go to Ed001}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:24:52
We and our owners are now the laughing stock of football

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:24:44
I'm as disappointed as you guys, but we should remember that Allen, Borini, Assaidi, Yesil and Sahin is still a really good transfer window for us.

Lets not forget, we've managed to keep a hold of all our key players when there have been individual times this window when we thought we were gonna lose suarez, agger, skrtl...

the squad HAS improved. we just were all expecting a little more today in terms of a striker to turn this good window into a great one. lets get behind the team anyway and hope someone finds their scoring boots!

x

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:24:36
why do other clubs go about their business so much better than us,year in year out,we're so poor in transfer windows.dhlfc

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:24:35
I need a minimum of three strikers. Once the window shuts, that is it until January. I have got Luis Suarez, Fabio Borini and Andy.

I would need to be a nutcase to even consider at this moment to let Carroll go out, unless there are other solutions for that. At the moment there isn't.

We have lost a lot of players this summer and I have not replaced them, as of yet. That is the reality of where we are.

We might look a little silly in an hour's time.

Still, 4 months to work hard and hope to god we don't injure any strikers! YNWA

Dont blame Brendan for Ayres mistakes.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:24:23
Just to say, if we've let AC go on loan without a replacement or 2, is it just me or should someone be sacked for lack of organisation/planning for what is looking like an inevitable outcome........

Mpc

Ian Ayre should be sacked. He is clueless.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:24:15
please post this ......... FSG Have been brilliant but im worried about the goal threat we was probably one or two million away... explanation tomorrow in Brendan we trust

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:24:04
You should have sold Carroll back to the toon!!, you might have had the money to replace him with Dempsey or Sturridge. On loan to West Ham!!, they will probably finish above you now too!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:23:56
What is going on!! Why didnt we just give that extra 2mill for dempsey? I really feel for BR this season, he has got his work cut out. If he pulls this squad together and gets a result at the end of the season then he should be knighted! As hard its going to be we Liverpool fans must get behind the players and BR and be that 12th man every game and roar the mighty reds on.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:23:51
LFC fans - Let protest aganist FSG on Sunday! henry out!

Let's not because they saved us from administration...fool.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:23:50
If its true that Fulham quoted LFC a higher price than they agreed to with Spurs or Villa then I applaud FSG for not paying it. They can't allow the club to be held hostage in negotiations. Just hope for reinforcements in Jan.

JKell2007

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:21:33
It's not all doom and gloom at least we still got joe cole NOT.

Eds wondering if u could tell me if that young lad from Leverkusen is ready for 1st team football and do u think he was Carroll replacement ?

Bangor eye dave YNWA {Ed001's Note - he was bought for the U21s, but he might have to play more in the first team.}

An injury to Suarez and he is first pick.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:48
£6mil it's pathetic
The hat

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:46
Apparently we offered 4 mil for Dempsey. Spurs offered 7 and got him. 8 mil for Adam, 16 mil for Henderson. But no 7 mil for Dempsey. Disgrace. Mid table mentality for a mid table team.

FSG apparently not willing to finance a deal for someone who is so old. Irrelevant of how many goals he's scored.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:40
It is sad to see so many people getting upset because we didn't sign Dempsey. The guy is 29 years old and in the last year of his contract. He is worth 3 million at the most. I am glad we didn't pay over the odds for him. Remember Carroll, Adam, Downing, Henderson?

Hes worth what the market dictates, Villa tthought 5-7 Spurs 6...so u really havnt a clue do you ?

Red Til Dead

I agree with you..buh at least we should have gotten other targets..hw can we hv just 2 fowards

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:38
Really can't believe or understand it. If the owners weren't willing to stump up for Dempsey why give the go ahead to Carroll's loan?!?! It makes no sense at all - really really frustrating. Feel for Rodgers, clearly going to be angry about this. If they wanted top 4 they should've shown more ambition.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:34
Eds awesome job tonight. I am really disillusioned with the new set of yonks. Why do these heartless brain dead persons get off on messing with are club? We seem to go from bad to worse, surely the fan back lash will cost them on this? {Ed063's Note - Cheers mate. Im not sure what went wrong tonight and who was to blame.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:32
"ESPN understands that the fee Fulham wanted for Dempsey from Liverpool was higher than that they accepted from Spurs or Villa"

That was always going to happen because of the tapping up tax.

We've been blamed for unsettling the player after FSG put it all over their website. So Fulham wanted more of us than others. It was an F-you to Liverpool, if anything. {Ed002's Note - It was nothing to do with the web site error.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:30
This has got to be up there with one of the worst transfer activity I think I've witnessed. How on earth you can justify sending out a £35m striker (granted he's not every bodies cut of tea) really is beyond me. Let him go and have no back up. Great business LFC
GodKopBadKop

It can't be justified.

So one needs to hang, the owners need to apologies and Rodgers needs some serious backing in the next window.

I'd be so tempted to walk after being lied to. No manager would let Carroll go and not get another forward option in to replace him.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:29
Benayoun to west ham

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:27
Just want to add something for all you people getting angry about ac going on loan and saying he would have been are top goal scorer can I just remind you he's only scored 2 pl goals at anfeild in 18 months sorry but emile heskey scored more than that and if you say he didn't getting the playing time kk always played him we have to face it ac is rubbish! (redneck)!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:19
today has been one of the most frustrating days...

i think the centre of midfield [gerrard lucas allen sahin] is looking as strong as it did in the days of Alonso and Masch. the defence has some good additions from the academy such as Kelly Robinson and Coates, and Sterling has given optimism regarding the width of the squad.
With Suarez we have someone who adds that flair, and then today happened.

It started off well... the rumours of Leandro really excited everyone and someone of his calibre could really complete the team. tbh, anyone who can consistantly finish would. and then the offloading of the fringe players to cut the wages and squad size. but then it stalled!


Eds... do you think that with the deadline fast approaching, that FSG will commit to one last signing to complete the team...or does it look like that the excitment will fade out and we will be strugglign for goals again?
and what do you think of the squad we have at our disposal now? are you happy with it?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:07
Fsg not willing to put money in until they sell the club

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:01
This seems like an FSG exit strategy,no stadium ,no investment and now stripping back the assets,we have lost Kuyt,Aquailani,Maxi,Aurelio,Bellamy,loaned out Spearing and Carroll and just sold Adam ,got rid of ecclestone and Pacheco what the hell is going in ?? How much much money has been clawed back and saved on wages,there will be uproar Eds but FSG know that that's why it's turn the light off when you leave the building they're gone mate,spare a thought for the manager he's well and truly been Richard rowntreed bless ya Liam

Assets my ass !
We couldn't sell most as they had no value.
The reality is that they were financially overpaid liabilities who had to go to lower the wage bill and allow a new squad to be built over next 3 yrs or so. That's the plan.

Kuyt, aquilani, maxi, Adam, caroll, spearing.... Assets? Cough

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:09:58
Congrats LFC we lost our only hope in scoring this season because we wasted all our money is such a terrible player as Borini is in fact and loaned away the big AC , this is going to be a hard season and a mid table finish is something we will have to accept.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:09:57
So less than an hour to go and no striker signed yet. I still believe we'll be signing someone before the deadline because:

(i) BR would not have allowed AC to leave had there been no replacemnent in place.

(ii) Liverpool have not followed on their initial interest of taking Sturridge on loan.

(iii) Liverpool allowed Dempsey to slip off easily without a fight.

So are we in for a surprise? I strongly believe so.

k_g

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:09:50
Hi Eds Been watching all day in the hope of some good news to take us forward - The one thing we have needed for the last season which is obvious to everyone is a goalscorer and its all well and good FSG trying to play the game and get players at a bargain but sometimes when the sellers know you need them more than they need to sell you have to get a deal done. But why did we get rid of AC BEFORE a deal was done to replace him. I know he didnt fit BRs plans but what options do we have now ? Lets hope that in the next hour David Copperfield arrives and manages to magic a striker for us ! Seems the only way we will get anything now

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:23:20
what a right tit Brendan Rodgers has been made to look after shipping out all these players thinkin some comin in...i'll put money on now that Ian Ayre is sacked before xmas as scapegoat for the obvious backlash at this shambolic transfer window, anger and disgust dosnt sum up how i feel at this mess.

next press conference should be interesting

Red Til dead

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:22:46
Absolutely gutted, could not score goals last season, struggling again this season and no striker coming in. This is a disgrace, Suarez misses more than he scores. We are destined for another very bad season, no matter how good a manager you have if you can't score goals forget about it. Worst season ever coming up, only hope FSG get bored and sell us, finally we get the right manager and they give him no money. Disgraceful transfer window.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:22:29
Who else is not surprised that once again Spurs have gone for a Liverpool target? Seems to be a bit of lack of imagination in the scouting department there....

77chris

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:22:12
Liverpool FC are 1 Big F*cking Joke!

We get what we deserve nothing!

American owners pissing about they really don't have a clue!

Season is over for us!

Thatracoonstolemybacon

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:22:09
Ed, what's the script with these yank owners, they say they would back big like they do in America, it's in the last hour and we've bought no big name and there moaning about 1 or 2 million for Dempsey. Even the saints are splashing out 12 million on wingers, if no one comes in we will be lucky to finish in the top 6.

Worrying times ahead!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:22:02
I should have signed it but I said Dempsey would be sold to someone else. Best thing to do is get behind BR and the team and see what the owners say.

YNWA
Marc

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:21:53
We need a striker. Wtf.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:21:47
I bet stevie is regretting saying we will finish top 4.. How do the owners expect top 4 with one striker... If people at the club are happy and think we will get top 4 they need there heads checked... disastrous night and probably a disastrous season to come...

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:21:46
What are the owners doing, to our club, I think we will be introuble this season, our squad is paper thin, any injuries and we will struggle. It's going to be a long long season

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:21:43
I expect a fan backlash, i cannot beleive the owners have gone from one extreme to the other we now have one striker and a bunch of kids (borini included) who may be talented but have a long way to go. Why let carroll go without a replacent! Give it two years and we will be sold again giving them the profit they are looking for, we will be back to square one with a weak and overvalued squad.

Red Grand

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:21:41
First time poster....what can I say. We are now a true laughing stock of world football.

How will they ever explain this.

Joke is putting it mildly.

Top 4 ..... You are having a laugh....top 10 will be a good result.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:21:17
Hi! Im your conscience!
This is just a bad dream. You need to wake up now!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:20:50
Dempsey to spurs for 6m.
That hurts...

MIKEY

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:20:36
Where are our goals going to come from? We need a forward who has 20+ goals in him.
Suarez: maybe.
Morgan: unproven and unfair expectation on a young lad.
Borini: unlikely.
Maybe from midfield.
Stevie g: Has he got 20 goals a season left in him? Don't think so, and the lads carried this club for 10yrs it's about time others manned up.
Sahin: could do but unlikely.
Hendo: No.
Allen:No.
Downing: Ppfftttt.
Sterling: Will he get enough game time?

Gutted.

KNEE JERK

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:20:29
yossi benayoun has rejoined west ham

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:20:23
Am I the only disappointed fan here??

First sigurdsson now Dempsey- how are we ever going to compete in the top four.
It's been a shocking window I think lfc got it all wrong.
Fsg it's football not just a business, there are fans here wanting the prem :(

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:20:21
Think next hour could define rest of season. No proper signings in window has cost us in past.

Must be something on cards due to so many players offloaded if not its gonna be a long and disapointing season again.

Brendan ave a word fella or your be off like KK.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:20:02
So Michael Owen is starting to look like a good free agent because we cant be going through a season with two, really only one because borini is hardly senior, strikers!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:19:46
Look on the bright side, we haven't lost anger (yet)

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:19:42
LFC TV reporting no more deals to take place, absolutely gutted and feel embarrassed for certain players at the club.

Not enough quality up front, Carroll should of stayed. Typical of us.

Won't get top 4, needed quality today.

Hope I'm wrong but nothing has been on the cards all day!

Great site by the way!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:19:32
Great news, struggled to score last season, struggling this, so let's sell a striker and not replace him. Borini doesn't look like he's got 10 goals in him either. FSG what are you doing?, the odd couple of million here and there to make sure we get the player could be extremely costly in may

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:19:27
gutted I am, been waiting all week for this

Don

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:19:26
#WeComeNotToBuy is trending on twitter ! What an absolute joke letting Andy go without a replacement. Step forward Fabio Borini, it's your time to shine young man.

KingHeskey

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:19:25
wat a to bob club weve become i aint prepared to be treated like a mmug bye yank entreupeners fxxk it

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:19:06
Cant believe today.............really gutted!
Big pressure now on Sterling & Assaidi to provide the ammunition for our 2 strikers. Heaven help us if we get injuries & suspensions.
Sadly think top 4 will now be out of reach unless FSG pull their finger out in January by which time it could be too late, top 10 at best - more than happy to be proved wrong.

Anti-depressants here I come, unless someone can give me good news.........

Great work ed's just a pity its ended like this.

Leyland Wool

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:18:49
We are the only team weaker after the transfer window for the sake of 2million. Are we really that skint?!!

DICKIEDIDOH

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:18:40
Adam gone, Aurelio gone, Maxi gone, Spearing loan, Carroll loan, Kuyt gone, Aqua gone! Anbody else?

Ins? Assadi,Allen,Borini and Sahin loan! 7 out and 4 in, and Rodgers makes statements about needing to get players in the beef up the squad and help the players already here.

I am completely stunned! Is Rodgers an Fsg yes man? 2 recognised forwards and a heap of pressure on young Morgan. Lost for words! Surely they have to sign someone!

The Irish Rover

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:18:13
how the hell do we get Ian Ayre out of club

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:18:38
Dempsey to Spurs £6m

Just sayin

Blue Ben

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:18:36
The only reason i can see everyone leaving other than they've just given up is to drive and meet someone half way as they would've ran out of time otherwise. Maybe someone couldnt get a flight in time. You never know

Cudge

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:18:29
Sly r reporting Dempsey has cost spurs 6 million , we sell Adam for 4m , so we only pay 2m for him great business I think , I'm totally p*ssed off that we have not signed anyone after letting 3 go ,

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:18:25
VERY Disappointed in actions tonight. Have been watching and waiting all day for the "great" signing and we let Dempsey get away for a piddling 1mill and still no "big name" as was intimated all day and more inportantly no sign of a replacement for AC.

Any comment Ed ... have i read things wrong
thanks for all the hard work anyways guys {Ed003's Note - I don't think you have}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:18:08
I'm sorry people but can we all remember the fact that FSG are not all that bad. If they hadn't had bought the club then we would not even have been in a situation where we can moan about not making signings more moaning about debt and relegation. Thank You

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:17:25
A mate of mine has a connection with Michael Owen through horse racing. MO's reluctance to join Stoke has been fuelled by his desire to stay on Merseyside. He was initially hoping that Everton would come in for him but it now appears We have jumped into pole position. This deal won't be concluded tonight but can and will be done during the international break.
Not sure I'm happy with it but better than nothing I suppose!
red1

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:17:18
no more signings. Sorry to disappoint you all. Confirmed the chief executive does not trust brendan wants to wait until next year. Scared to spend after dalglish spent so poorly!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:17:18
When it comes to transfers we are a joke, no plan B, just Suarez and a couple of kids.
I also wish Spurs would employ there own scouts and stop trying to steal all our targets.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:17:09
Would like to thank all the Ed's for all their hard work over the last few weeks. Although seems its going to be a disappointing end to the transfer window.

Now all we have to do is get behind the team and hope Suarez/Borini/Sterling/Morgan get us the goals we need.

Dave

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:17:07
Ed's I've been told that we only offered £4m for Dempsey, do u know how true this is compared to what Spurs have offered?
GodKopBadKop {Ed001's Note - it is true that we only put 4m in cash on the table.}

Well we think Dempsy will come with us. when Villa put £5m why we put £4m ?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:17:06
Cock up of epic preportions....
I'm going to sleep now and dream about ehat could of been
Expect a backlash fsg
Rickblfc....

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:17:03
Our club is run by clowns , letting AC go with out getting in another striker is sheer madness , Spurs buy dempsey for 6 mill , surely he is worth that ? he has scored shed loads of goals , i predict a goalless season , we will panic in january window due to lack of goals , and pay over the odds for a striker , its false logic ,
the owners need to start investing money into the club , they arnt doing this , we are falling further behind the champions league places ,
owners should invest now to get us into the champions league , i fear for our future tbh

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:17:00
How do they expect 4th place when ever ton,Southampton and villa are outspending us,it is a complete joke.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:16:49
Well done eds saying that we're going to sign Dempsey and another striker

Ainslee Ming Lao {Ed001's Note - thanks.}

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:16:38
So I got £20 Rodger won't last till January.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:16:26
Nothing... Absolutely nothing... Gobsmacked! We lose Carroll and don't even replace, Dempsey was a steal at 6m. Oh dear FSG, OH DEAR. LAUGHTERPOOL.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:16:12
BR say's in a press conference in the week that there is no way he will let Andy go without a replacement. He says he needs the very minimum of 3 ?
He is going to look like an person now! This will be brought up all year.
RNred

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:16:03
So disappointed tonight. The only thing that can change this now is results.

God help FSG if we don't score goals

Aldos tash

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:15:46
WTF was the Portuguese translator rubbish from earlier? Can't even get Dempsey for 6 million and people were talking about the brasilian lad.
Relegation looms, no stadium, all rubbish.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:15:42
I feel really ashamed to be a Liverpool supporter tonight however it makes you think how the top Liverpool players are feeling, they obviously have been promised players to strengthen the team and the club lie and let them down. We are really in big rubbishe.

I can see a few transfer requests in January, after the players seeing Liverpool not able to pay 6M on a player who scores over 15 goals a season and they also see their rivals Spurs signing dembele and others.

I bet there is a little smile on Andy's face at the moment

I really believed in the new owners, however I am beginning to think that they are typical Americal Bull shiiiters.

Evered

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:15:35
Has Ian Ayre been sacked yet?

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:15:12
NOT HAPPY we need new owners NOW
avoorochie

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:15:09
what the hell is going on here? this is absolute chaos madness. the whole season is going towards a big screw up!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:15:07
suarez and borini better start working on their finishing RIGHT NOW!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:15:05
Demsey signs 3 year deal wi spurs for.......6 million, thats right we couldn't bid 6 mill, on the plus side I saw rushie polishing his boots YNWA

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:15:04
God help us if we Suarez or Borini get injured cos we haven't got a prayer. Morgan looked out of his depth against a mediocre Scottish team. We will struggle to score all season thanks Fsg. It will hurt to the bone every time I see Carroll or Dempseys name on score sheet this season.



Completely peed off Halifax Red Kris.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:56
Last minute wonder kid Wot De Fook signs for £3.50 and a Chow Mein

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:46
sadly not a rumour, but a yell of frustration. Why oh why would we have missed out on dempsey like this? Who would ANY football player prefer to play with? AVB OR BR come ON! FSG are a laughing stock over here right now. I'm sick of this s**t. 3rd window in a row we've missed opportunities. sick if it.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:34
The morning started with the Damiao rumours looked that there were possibly 3 top players coming in, we have nobody loaned out our record signing and are getting further behind, going to be another long horrible season.

Alex

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:32
Come on guys, we matched and bettered Manchester City last weekend, and we still have most of our starting squad from that game. Carroll was never gonna get a game, and so it was better that he got game time. The loaned players have been sent out for the same reason too. We still have Sahin and Assaidi to look forward to.

Stay Positive.

Piledriver

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:18
Yes ok we are all disappointed that we haven't signed anyone today and the owners will face the backlash of it...... I'm not bothered about missing out on Dempsey at all, spurs are welcome to him......I told you all we don't have the money to sign anyone else..... We need to balance the books...... On a positive note we have freed up a lot of big wages being paid to average players which I'm glad of..... Only joe cole to go now lol.......we just have to accept that we are starting from scratch and building from there..... It's going to be another season of us being a midtable team.....we just have to be patient lads ...... The foundations are being laid for a strong future..... Keep the faith .... YNWA

Andy kirk
Chorley

''We need to balance the books.''

I understand we need to reign things in, but almost £300,000K a week has been lightened from the load since Rodgers has come in.

We couldn't have done any more in that respect. Joe Cole didn't want to leave his £80,000 a week for Russia. Rodgers tonight was stiffed by FSG and Ayre. I don't think for one moment Rodgers hasn't got mental at Ayre and seen the owners true colours.

How can he give his everything to Liverpool knowing he's being lied to on season defining decisions of a 23 goal last season striker for the sake of £2.5 million which are close rival was openly happy to pay.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:17
epic fail.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:11
with liverpool putting in a 4 mill bid for dempsey which to me bare in mind is an insult it just makes me think there's somebody else ready to sign for us within the hour? surely they wouldnt let dempsey go if there wasnt..

Don

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:09
Well done for letting carroll go before someone else sorted really clever thing to do

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:05
the owners have only ever been looking for making money out of our club! they need to go simple as. There whole idea has been to cut down the wage bill and pocket the money for themselves. they've made our club look like a complete laughing stock. Really hope all the fans turn on FSG they deserve it for the way they have behaved. shocking.

Danny

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:02
I am usually the most positive Liverpool fan you can find.

Tonight I am angry.

I don't blame Brendan Rodgers for any of this.

The owners are *supposed* to be successful businessmen.

Replacing Andy Carroll with thin air is f'ing ludicrous.

Dempsey, even at 7.5 million, would have been a no brainer.

Damn.

Matt S - YNWA

I feel your pain mate, along with 99% of the Liverpool supporting population. I am normally extremely positive and optimistic but right now I feel like things can't get much worse. I honestly thought that we were in that situation when we finished 8th last season, but with our lack of squad depth I fear things are about to get a whole lot worse. Why did we invest £15m in Joe Allen (absolutely no disrespect intended, he is a superb player and very happy with him), when we could have used Suso, or kept Adam, and actually bought someone who can score us some goals! Clean sheets will guarantee us a minimum of a draw, but that's all we seemed to get last season. Do the owners not understand this? Surely the worlds biggest football dunce can see that you need goals to win! Unless BR can do something really special I can see us losing Suarez, Reina, Skrtel, and Agger next summer. We have some very hard work ahead of us...poor Brendan.

Absolutely gutted, I'm not a moaner but wtf have we just done?? Watched all the posts for the last 3 months thinking your all stupid and it will all come good,obviously I'm the dxxk,feel sorry for br he ob thought we would be signing at least 3 players....role on January and we can all start again..

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:14:00
I'm sorry but what the owners said about being ambitious is just a load of bull. Tom Werner said we can compete with the best financially, obviously not! Brendan Rodgers is supposedly really P*ssed off because he wouldn't of let Carroll go if he knew he wasn't getting any one. "it would be stupid to let Andy go with out a replacement" Straight from Brendan Rodgers mouth. Can one of the eds please tell me how our owners can pay £200 million on two baseball players yet they won't pay an extra 500,000 for Dempsey. We just look stupid!

Upset Fan {Ed001's Note - baseball teams have a lot more money, you can't compare the two sports.}

Yes you can the money comes from the same pot.....FSG. I think they are looking to sell the club make a few bucks

Marty

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:13:42
i am pissed off with whoevers to blame for us not bringing in a striker letting carroll go and leaves us with 1 proper striker in suarez so pissed.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:13:41
I find it very disappointing that Liverpool has let all these players sign elsewhere. If they've spent so much money on players like hendo and downing any idea why they didn't want to pay 7 million for Dempsey whose a proven player or gaston Ramirez for 12 million?

Mike

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:13:22
What a loud of rubbish the American owners could not stump up and extra couple of millions for Dempsey which would of gave us an even bigger fan base in America and shirt sales they would rather make the fans unhappy and keep there money in there pockets

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:13:21
Would love to know what rubbish Suarez was fed in order to sign a new contract.....the same crap we keep getting fed no doubt.!

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:13:18
all thats gonna happen now rodgers wont be given the time he needs when thigns go bad fans will turn and will be such a waste

 

 

31 aug 2012 22:12:44
liverpool have a 15m bid turned down by man .u for howard web expect to come back wit a improved offer

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:12:39
Aaaaaaaahhhhhh wats going on does br know something we don't cause we need goals can't start a season with just Suarez and borini I'm really worried wat if one get injured I hope there's a surprise or it looks like a bad season

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:12:24
What a joke ! Sell and loan players and don't get anyone in very light in numbers now say Stevie gets injured playing for England and Suarez gets injured we are very short have to use young players! The club seems to be going backwards who's negotiating the transfers? Cos they ain't doing a good job! A very disgruntled Lfc fan like most tonight I guess please post like to hear others thoughts

Hold on did you forget about sahin, allen, borini, assaidi and that lad we signed yesterday.
We are alright and this squad could likely do the business until january.
However if we get an injury to one of our forwards than we are in trouble and i would've wanted dempsey, he is even worth 10 million in my eyes.
derryred

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:12:22
Ian Ayre you are a joke, Dempsey has just signed for Spuds for 6mil, yes only 6mil!! Get out Ayre!! All the blame is going to go on to Brendan Rogers, and Ayre will be in the back ground laughing!

Northern Ireland Red

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:12:17
Cannot understand why the owners would let Carroll go and not bring anyone else in. This is a disgrace. FSG are proving to be no better than Hicks and Gillett. We now have a forward line of which two are youngsters and Borini who can't score and Suarez who is not prolific. This is terrible management from top to bottom of the club.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:11:57
Unless something happens soon I really think liverpool's negotiators should be looked at. We always seem to get beat to targets or pay over the odds such as caroll and hendo. Maybe they need to go

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:11:54
i sent this in last night but wasnt posted,
FSG are starting to worry me, frst they name kenny as manager on a 3 year deal, give him in excess of £100m to spend, then sack him and say he was never a long term soloution. why let a man spend that type of money on players if you dont see him as a long term manager?. then they bring rodgers in and say he is here for the long term, yet they refuse to back him in the market in the way they did with kenny. i find it a little bit hypocritical, and very annoying..
thoughts eds?


LFC-IRE {Ed001's Note - once bitten, twice shy mate. They were trying to show they weren't going to be taken for mugs again, it back fired on them.}

In answer to the ED01 response, I'm really not seeing this as the "Rick Parry" approach of not being able to secure the last £2m, I really think this is "Liverpool will not pay over the odds", Adam, Enrique, Downing, Henderson - revalue them and you probably have us overpaying by between 15 and 25 million, even adjusting for the potential they had before last seasons disaster. I'd rather be the club that negotiates smart loans and pays realistic fees than the club that got milked for fees since Benny got that European cup.

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:11:52
Dempsey to spurs confirmed the fee is 6 million wat a steal if we cant pay this how will we get llorente or sturridge even walcott #disguste

RedVic

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:11:24
Stop moaning you shower of footie manager tarts.

DaveyBOOTLE

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:11:19
Calm down lads. January is not too far off the corner. We'll take our time, identify our targets and make the move. Or would you rather we overpay for more garbage once again?

There are lots of Assaidis, Ben Arfas and Cabayes out there waiting to be snapped up on the cheap. This is why we hired Fallows and Hunter to do a job.

Personally, I would love us to look into the Spanish market for more of the Michus and Kones. That in my view would be the best way to go for now and its called wheely dealing as we have seeminly stepped off our high horse.

But on a more serious note, if nothing happens by January and we don't sign nobody, I would not be pleased at all with FSG. In fact, I might quit eating American flavoured doughnuts and hot dogs.

You put assaidi in the same sentence as ben afra and cabaye why? Not even seen him play yet. Hope you are right

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:11:17
are we gonna now call it the wage bill cutting window instead of transfer window,rob b

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:55
another 2 pair of plonkers,yonks defo out

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:53
FSG **** Scoring Goals

 

 

31 Aug 2012 22:10:51
ieds i just cant get my head around this whole situation of us signing no one yet it is ridiculous we are a laughing stock what a joke! no dempsey because of fsg being stubborn over 1-2milliion if we dont sign another striker i can see suarez leaving next summer because of too much pressure on his shoulders. i was very optimistic up until now with players coming goimg and our football but now im bracing myself for a tough season i think suarez getting injured would give the owners the kick in the teeth they need i mean look how cleverly spurs have done business and how city have strengthened even further

 

 

 
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