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01 Sep 2014 23:44:15
Hi guys who else would of loved Sandro to lfc if we had room in a way gutted he's gone there seems like a top bloke
I can't wait to see the Vine Video from the changing rooms if Joey Barton starts getting mouthy. Sandro will eat him alive!
01 Sep 2014 22:40:34
Sturridge Balotelli Lambert and Borini it is then for the season ahead.
I would take that. It is better than Welbeck, Sanchez and Sanogo at the present.
Curled1
I'm happy with that.
4 options who can all score goals
Maybe Borini won't get many gamy games but he will give his all when called upon and is more than capable of banging in a few goals if he does
01 Sep 2014 22:24:48
Borini back on to sunderland
01 Sep 2014 22:47:31
i am reading qpr deal is off because of wage demands.where did you read sunderland cole25?
01 Sep 2014 22:09:44
Sorry eds I know you don't like people having a go at players but i'm really angy with borini and his transfer situation. It appears its all about wages with this fella as if the bloke can't survive on the wages these clubs are offering. Borini needs football to help him improve but all he is doing is thinking money. Hope he enjoys it in the reserves. Sorry eds i'm really having to watch myself and what I say.
Not angry with him at all, would you join QPR or Sunderland after Roma and us? I wouldn't either. Admire his will to prove himself.
We're the ones who gave him a contract that lasts the next three years. Not sure why people are seemingly so hostile at the kid as if he tackled Ayre and made him sign it against the club's wishes.
Lesson to learn here is we need to be better about our signings and have a clear strategy in mind for what we're going to do with them. Assaidi, Aspas, Borini, Alberto, Ilori, etc- they're all symptoms of the same problem. Stop blaming the players for it.
Obvious to me he thinks more bout money than football just hopeing sunderland pull it out the fire.
Spot on RDL.
01 Sep 2014 23:25:47
Yeah I have to say the lad is trying to save his career. And he did us some favours with important goals last year. We signed him up for several years. If he wants to play for us enough to risk everything who knows he might come good. Other players have done.
Being angry with him is silly. We don't know the full circumstances at all.
How on earth can we, as Liverpool fans, be angry with the guy?
We signed him, gave him a 5 year deal at a certain amount per week. I've always thought that whenever he played he gave everything. He went to Sunderland and played his heart out. The guy has always given 100% for the club, and now suddenly he is expected to jump ship and take a massive pay cut?
What would you do, in your job? You've been giving everything for 2 years at a firm in the top 5 in the country, even being shipped out to another office at the other end of the country to try and prove yourself, but still you aren't getting anywhere, but you are on £40k a year and that is guaranteed for the next 3 years.
Or would you take a job somewhere else for £25k a year, knowing that you'll have to work just as hard, for less reward, with a higher chance of being injured on the job, and the possibility of your company performing so badly they aren't even considered one of the top 20 companies next year!
How on earth can we blame him?
Cant blame him. he is in a strong place in the deal and now he's staying we should use him when needed
If I am borini I will stay and fight as hendo did rather than play ugly football at qpr.
02 Sep 2014 06:58:04
Winding me up seeing people slate Borini. The lad showed real ability on loan last season and hlis obviously willing to fight for his place.
Hes showing more determination and loyalty than many a mercenary out there (Odemwingie to name but one). This lad wants to save his career and is willing to work to do so.
It will also help his club and international career to get some game time with his fellow countryman Balotelli. If Balo and Borini get going we could have Italy's strikeforce as our back up to Englands in Sturridge and Sterling!
Good on you Fabio, you show these 'fans' what it is to fight for a shirt.
02 Sep 2014 12:14:51
Kiwikop
If I am Borini, I would have got a clear message from my manager, If I am in his plans or not (Clearly He is not, Which is another shame )
He had 30 days to find the right club.
01 Sep 2014 22:03:17
Can someone please explain to me why it's such a terrible thing to change your mind about a player.
Is it really a cardinal sin to state upon signature that you didn't rate X player when they played for Y team or you call out that the player was having a poor run of form only to be impressed by more recent performances e.g. Henderson or before that Lucas?
Why is it we have to make a judgement call and stick to it instead of rating a player depending on their form?
I think as long as you state own up to your scepticism and state that the player has made you change your mind then most don't mind. Constructive criticism should be encouraged.
It's those ultras that radically change direction from ultimate bashing (X is crap, I wish Y was injured.) to shouting down anyone who slightly criticises anyone, that ruin it for everyone.
Blind faith isn't a virtue, but neither is the b*tching that goes on. However support is necessary.
01 Sep 2014 21:48:27
Mario Baletolli 16 mill
Danny Welback 18 mill
(Figures are assumption)
I know which one is the deal.
Agreed, welbeck is awful.
Welbeck has the one attribute Balotelli has always lacked - a work ethic.
Balotelli has almost every attribute Welbeck lacks, including the crucial knack of controlling ones own feet unlike a Bambi impersonator.
£16 million for Balotelli seems to look better every day.
I don`t know which is worse, tbh. Arsenal buying an aweful Danny Welbeck or the fact that they paid a whopping 16m to buy an aweful Danny Welbeck. Someone please help me.
I am really surprised Wenger went with Welbeck after purchasing Sanchez.
01 Sep 2014 21:31:57
Can we buy the Eds a cake when silly season is over? You know, Toure style. You'd prefer a cake to a Bugatti right?
Although from what I read, some of the Eds could stay off the cakes.
01 Sep 2014 20:56:31
If Lucas doesn't leave tonight or go on loan, I won't be disappointed at all! Experienced player, and we can't win every game with the high press, we are going to need an out and out sitting midfielder occasionally, especially in Europe.
I agree profusely.
01 Sep 2014 20:55:29
Hi eds, just want to thank you all for your excellent work, Addicted as usual the whole way through. Borini does it again by the looks of things, 2 bids accepted and he's still there because of greed and knowing he's not wanted and is 4th choice, if he's still there at 11 he's a joke! Cheers again eds, catch u all in January ;)
So if your employer suggested you were no longer needed but you had a 3 year contract, would you happily skip off to a less renowned employer in a new city for less pay? Or would you scan the job market hoping for a more comparable opportunity while fulfilling your current contract obligations?
I respect Borini as it seems his motivation is more to do with ambition and proving himself than greed.
If Borini wants to stay in the reserves, that is his choice and HIS alone.
01 Sep 2014 21:03:13
Deadline day, the journalist awaits his big moment on ssn, all set, he steadies himself and authoritatively reads his transfer day script, he senses his report coming to an end when.
. and Everton runs up behind and places a strapping purple dildo in his ear!!
haha.
Can't beat the scousers!!
Wouldn't surprise me if Everton sign that Dildo up.
{Ed001's Note - they tried but he decided to stay at Man Utd. Oh wait you didn't mean Cleverley?}
01 Sep 2014 20:56:48
Brilliant job all summer eds. Love the site please keep up the great work
01 Sep 2014 20:52:00
I'm not even taking any notice of who is transferring to where.
Messi could have joined us for an old pair of John Barnes' tights and I wouldn't have even noticed thanks to Natalie Sawyer and the other presenter Kate (not Jim White lol).
Wow!!
Rolling my tongue back in as I write this.
01 Sep 2014 20:01:24
So looking like both Lucas and Suso will stay with us this season.
Borini also yet to agree terms with Qpr.
Ed if these players wee to stay on I take it they have little chance of getting much game time? And also not doing us any favours with paying there wages.
{Ed002's Note - I haven't decided yet.}
01 Sep 2014 20:29:45
Chelsea fan here, saw the post about Hazard and Sterling below and thought I'd chip on.
Though I agree Hazard has his fair share of off days for a player with his ability I really think he is world class. As a Chelsea fan it hurts me that we don't see the best of hi more often, cause of the way we are usually setup, whereas the way scumpo. (pardon false habit) Liverpool play suits Sterling to a cup of tea.
I think Hazard has really matured and like last season would have a very good spell but how long will it last? Hopefully for us, a month or two longer. If he were in your team I assure you he would be doing the job for you guys week in week out cause of your style of play but with us Jose expects more from his wingers. Sterling in our Chelsea side wouldn't play half as well as he is now and more importantly wouldn't fair half as well as hazard does. So honestly, I think Hazard is a better player. Sterling like Owen was is made for you guys. For his sake hope his smart enough to realise that and not move elsewhere cause under a different system I can see him being a flop.
At the age of 19 Sterling scored more goals in a tougher competition than Hazard did at the same point in his career, at the moment it's impossible to compare a 23 year old Hazard to a 19 year old Sterling. But Sterling will only get better and better and if you think he's good, we've got Ibe and Markovic to follow.
Helmet, I wouldn't dream of trawling through the chelsea, city or utd pages,
weird
I fully agree w/ you. As for Hazard, I`ve known him since his academy days at Lille and frankly, Sterling is a better player at 19 than Hazard was at that age. Reason being that Sterling has a lot of responsibility at Liverpool at 19 and thrives on the pressure of playing concistently for a big club that Hazard either had or was not willing to embrace at Lille. There were times where his Lille teamates would say that Hazard never really applies himself and that if he did, he would be one of the best players in the world. But it was ok because the French media would never criticize him for spells of inconsistency because they wished he was French and not Belgian and his then coach Rudi Garcia would always back him and protect him from critics come rain, hail, snow or shine. Even at the WC, he was average at best as the likes of Origi, Mertens and De Bruyne were much better than he was in a system that is very offensive which should have suited Hazard while Sterling was OKat best in a defensive England system which is unsuited to Sterlings strengths which globally, supports your point. Also, Sterling tracks back to defend and win the ball back for his team because BR demands it while Hazard doesn`t seem bothered often times which as we all know, attracted Jose`s wrath. All in all, I don`t know if Hazard is inferior to Sterling BUT based on having watched both players rise thru the ranks, I can tell you that Hazard is defo NOT better than Sterling especially on current form.
01 Sep 2014 22:19:40
I have to disagree firstly because you are comparing apples and pears - Sterling and Hazard may have the same label - but are very different players. Second - 'Jose expects more from his wingers', this is nonsense. Third and final comment - saying 'honestly' before a biased opinion does not a fact it make.
I'd like your opinion on what you mean by more from the wingers. If you watch Raheem Sterling closely he works tremendously hard for the team. He tracks back consistently and holds the ball up with his strength so well for a little fella.
Sterling attributes come with his attitude he has a wonderful ability to block out the occasion and produce his best football. He's not better than hazard he's they are quite similar in all aspects except age. That's why sterling is more exciting due to being 19.
:)
Hazard is now playing more defensive than offensive so Sterling is by far the better attacking player
I'd have to worry about Sterlings bus-parking abilities in crucial matches though.
Whoever said belgium play attacking football, and with the likes of Origi and de Bruyne playing hazard didn't shine. You might want to go watch Belgium. They certainly do not play fluid attacking football, they play posession football and try to break teams down slowly.
Sterling had a good season last year. Infact I was one of his critics the previous year because of how much he gave the ball away. but let's not get carried away, we won't be as attacking minded this season, and score 100+ goals, I'll expect Sterling to play a much more defensive role.
Both at the age of 19, Hazard was a much better player going forward. I wouldn't even begin to compare them as they are now.If you watch chelsea games, you will see hazard is almost always double teamed sometime even triple teamd, to simply stop him. Give him a sterling 1 on 1 situation and he would shine more.
01 Sep 2014 20:17:17
Hi Eds,
Great work on Transfer Deadline Day.
I've been hearing on twitter that we are after Petr Cech and Victor Valdes.
Any chance we will get those players in this transfer window.
Many Thanks
{Ed013's Note - Valdes is the most likely of the 2, but I imagine doubtful. All of the Eds appreciate your comments mate}
01 Sep 2014 19:14:38
Hi eds, any chance of Romero still or is it off now?
{Ed013's Note - I believe it is off}
Thank Jesus! I guarantee you all that lfc dodged a minefield with that ove not happening. Romero is aweful at best. And forget the WC because Argentina haven`t had a decent goalie since Cavallero in 2002 and Romero is the best of the worstin that country at the moment.
01 Sep 2014 22:32:31
I'm sorry but he would be better back up than jones. Plus we have a better chance of going on a cup run if Romero is in goal rather than jones. I don't intend to bash any player as jones has been great for the club, but this is the harsh reality.
And you know this how, Kman? Fact is that Romero is rubbish and that is why he`s been on the bench almost everywhere he`s been (Dinamo Moscow, Monaco, Alkmaar etc)
Id rather have Jones than Romero. Save the money for a better GK come January/next summer.
01 Sep 2014 20:03:04
Just checking other pages and red dawn (Liverpool supporter) posted on united page saying who's said they thought was stronger. Most of them genuinely believed they had far better individual players. Everyone try and be as neutral as possible but I honestly look at their team and tbh I can't get my head round how they can believe that. It's like us saying we have better individual players then Real Madrid!
Who cares who is better individually, it matters how they fit together as a unit. Liverpool has a much better team. Once the new players get acclimated with the system, there is no limit to what they can achieve. Sunday was a perfect example of that. Just wait until Lallana gets going. He and Henderson together will be brilliant.
01 Sep 2014 20:24:53
Red
We will beat them well and clear. I could guarantee you that.
And Pls. stop obsessing both RVP and Rooney. They have been average like Gerrard from years now.
01 Sep 2014 20:29:52
Mate it's a debate? I would rather a great team with less individuals as it is a team game. I found it odd how they genuinely believed almost all their players were individually better.
01 Sep 2014 20:37:17
I'm sure the A Madrid players didn't care who had the best individual players last season when they won the league.
I'd take De Gea. I reckon the back four that played against Spurs is man for man better than Shaw, Smalling/Evans, Jones/Rojo, and Rafael.
Henderson in the middle.
Gerrard/Carrick/Ander Herrera? I rate Carrick and Stevies on his way out, but his set pieces and long balls and captaining abilities are far superior. Herrera is as yet unproven.
Sturridge was English scorer last season. Has more to his game than RVP.
Last 3 positions. Balotelli Coutinho, Sterling or Di Maria, Falcao(?), Rooney. Our three our younger, hungrier, cheaper and as yet don't throw their toys out the pram ever ten and a half months for a new contract *cough* Rooney *cough*. Falcao is proven as an oustanding player, versus Balo. Sterling is 19 and is providing the goods already, Di Maria is unproven in the PL as of yet. Rooney versus Coutinho, Wayne wins based on last years goals/assists.
So thats:
De Gea, Moreno, Lovren, Sakho, Manquillo, Henderson, Gerrard, Sterling, Rooney, Falcao, Sturridge.
Having written this essay though, I'd still rather have our squad which play attractively, are younger play and well together than their counterparts. Falcao, Di Maria, Mata, Rooney and RVP will probably end up costing United over £60 million a year anyway and will never play together as a group of five players anyway.
Evening Twist,
Nice to see my posts aren't going unnoticed!
I too was a little shocked at the reaction over there. Apart from the expected cries of "We're better la la la" most genuinely believe that they are in a better position that us.
It'll be very interesting to see how it plays out this season. I can see United being much better than last season. But I really do feel that if we play like we did on Sunday on a regular basis we could be in for yet another exciting season!
I couldn't care less how good their players are, the english national team had world class players for years and were always poop. If they believe falcao is a centre back then they are sadly mistaken, how they managed to make kagawa, mata and now maybe di maria into average players is beyond me.
Everton have only survived thus far in the premier league because they play fantastically as a team even though they are at a disadvantage when it comes to players, whereas spurs spent 100 million on class players but completely decimated their ability to play as a team. Really desperate time for united fans, they really are in denial at how their club is slipping away.
Spot on Tommy mate!
Let's be honest, they thought Cleverly was better than Henderson.
Januzaj better than Sterling
Kagawa better than Coutinho
Welbeck better than Sturridge
So forgive me if I don't believe a word they say! Still waiting for the world class Mata to turn up ha ha
Redtwist, it all stems from blaming Moyes for everything last season. Can't have been that the players are s##*e, must be the managers fault.
When they finish sixth this year, they'll blame 352 or Louis Van-Launch it, whilst convincing themselves that they still have better players than us!
Good lineup, Jolly. I would however NEVER take Rooney over Coutinho or Balotelli. Rooney has been passed it since 2011 and is just palying for money at the moment.
Redohio, I merely put Rooney in based on his stats of 17 goals and 10 assists last season. I'd rather take our younger, hungrier and less costly players.
Someone should organise both teams of players to turn up on a pitch and throw a ball in the middle of them. THEN, we would see whos the better side. I'd even pay money to watch.
01 Sep 2014 23:39:04
Good debate lads, I do agree that I'd rather a great team then individuals (a Madrid being great examples and in a way us last season) jolly no way would you want Rooney! Think he's really past it
Obviously I'd rather have a great team over great individuals but I can kind of see where they are coming from. I think in terms of capability, then JollyRed is spot on. However I would say that on paper United have the bigger names. The likes of Rooney, Falcao, Van Persie, Mata and Di Maria are all household names and on paper are bigger names than Balotelli, Sturridge, Coutinho, Sterling and say Henderson. However on the pitch is what makes the difference, and although United may have more household "bigger" name players, I think we have a promising young team who on their day can run riot on any defence. That's my opinion.
Jolly good then, Jolly.
One of their esteemed supporter was adamant they were going to finish 25 points ahead of LFC last season.
I wouldn't take them seriously at all.
The Real AG, I believe it was 'at least' 30 points.
Yeah, he kept reducing the number of points as the season went on. By the 6th game of the season, it was down to atleast 15 points.
01 Sep 2014 19:58:30
According to reports, the Borini deal seems to be stalling over his wage demands of 90k a week which QPR are unwilling to match. I would be seriously pissed if this deal does not go through.
It seems Borini's priorities have changed completely from wanting to play football regularly to milking as much cash as possible from his employers. Either it is his advisors or his fiance who are really making all his decisions for him or the guy has just lost his way. Be happy sitting in the reserves and falling further down the national squad pecking order Fabio.
01 Sep 2014 20:13:36
Y would he take a pay-cut. That's what happens when you pay insane wages to players and then dump them
For this very own deal, I blame Rodgers.
If you had a contract from Company A whereby they paid you a salary of £X per year would you jump at the chance to go to Company B and be paid £.75X? Thought not.
Harry, there's no way that Borini is on £90,000 a week at Liverpool. I'm not having that.
Just for the record, you are the most reactionary character on here that I have ever known. You have a flakey, transient opinion on everything Liverpool related that happens.
01 Sep 2014 20:46:46
Or see things for what they are "I will waste a season of my career at Loftus Road but not for less than 90k per week"
01 Sep 2014 20:47:08
The guy is just trying to get his own back on the club for not playing him enough. Let him rot in the reserves
Ive always said he's not here for football reasons. Fact is he thinks he's better than he is he's a very average player.
Agree with Boom. He's an Italy international. He has ambitions and a high opinion of himself. Who doesn't once they reach those heights?
01 Sep 2014 21:54:06
Alan
90k might be his wish, and surely Sunderland could offer only close to 50k, which might be his current pay.
To jump from a potential CL club to Non CL club. You need insane money or deal is off.
Falcao is the best Example. He could play for any team who would give him a bumper deal.
01 Sep 2014 21:55:52
Alan
I am pretty straight and Blunt and never being Biased.
Falcao a week ago. worlds best
Falcao now. Overrated doggy knee.
Really?. You admire such people?
If Borini`s on 90k a week, then I defo messed up my professional life choices because that is theft. I don`t believe that for one second. Harry in case you are unaware of how certain transfers work, players often ask for impossible wages if they don`t want to go to a club that they don`t like. It is clear that Borini wants to go back to Italy and until that happens, he will happily sit in the reserves and pick up his check. Pure and Simple!
01 Sep 2014 22:04:37
I agree with Alan, there is no way Borini is on £90k p/a. I reckon it's more about the status of the club, I could be wrong of course, but Sunderland have had a fee agreed for nearly a month, maybe Borini wants to stay and fight for his place & I say good luck to him, he's going to need it as currently there are 3 clearly defined choices that in my eyes come before him.
01 Sep 2014 22:19:18
Alan can I borrow your sword of truth for my next work meeting?
Borini (around £45k) same with Assaidi (around £25k) neither of them are on the wages they want from clubs to make a transfer (£90k & £70k reportedly). They know they'll be lucky to get on the bench let alone game time but they decide to stay. It's their choice though they signed a contract with us and can pick the time they want to go but they'll just end up suffering by staying.
I doubt BR will even give cup matches to those who have refused transfers, we have youths to blood in. I'd like to see Yesil and Sinclair be given run outs in the cups again this season and Canos too, looking forward to watching him for the U21.
Harry, you said in your post 'y would he take a pay cut' implying that he's on £90,000 a week. You then go on and blame Rodgers for giving him such a rewarding (non-existent) contract.
As for your next two posts, I fail to understand how me pulling you up on incorrect wage information, suddenly makes me the champion of mercenaries like Falcao!
You all have to forgive Harry, he is just clueless.
01 Sep 2014 19:54:10
Ah come on LFC, bid for someone even just for the fun of it.
25 million euros for Messi with a clause he must score 30+ goals
01 Sep 2014 19:45:12
Reports online saying if the boring deal goes through we will replace him with konoplyanka.
That would be very good.
I hope this happens
01 Sep 2014 20:52:21
It took the president of Dnipro nearly 24 hours to confirm the transfer in January, not too sure he's the right man to be buying from in a rush.
Borini?
Freudian slip there.
01 Sep 2014 21:45:13
Excellent. Macca would be then regarded as the Greatest
01 Sep 2014 19:19:07
Hi all.
I've been away for a few days and missed the match on Sunday. I've read the reports, all sounds like were on our way again.
Did "the Word" pop his face in before the game?
Looking through the posts looks as though were the ones sitting pretty, after making some fantastic early signings.
Good to see teams like Utd and QPR making the same mistakes we made with big Andy. oh what a nice place it is to be once again.
Roll on the next game at home, with Ballers being introduced to the Kop.
xxxx
01 Sep 2014 19:59:54
Sandro, Caulker, Borini and Lenon.
Whats the big Mistake here mate?
01 Sep 2014 20:46:45
Either your spelling of Lennon, or your use of a capital M for "mistake" Harry. Take your pick ;)
What Harry? Did he mention spurs?
01 Sep 2014 18:43:45
I know sterling has been getting praised a lot but he is already one of the best wingers/play makers in the league. Even watching hazard I would still prefer sterling even at 19. Can you imagine how actually good he will be? Very exciting player and you've got to put Henderson in the category as well. Our squad is full of quality and potential.
Agreed. This time last year I thought that the Ox was a better player than Raheem, but now I would take Sterling every time. I know Ox has had a bad injury, but even without it, I think Raheem would still be the better player (and I am a fan of the Ox).
I am delighted that Sterling got a few Seasons with Suarez. He must have learned a huge amount from him, but more importantly if some of Suarez' fight and will to succeed has stuck with him he will be phenomenal.
Thy shalt not covet the gooners' ox
! (thanks Nick - been waiting all year to say that)
Hazard on his day is one of the best players on the planet, but these days do not happen too often. Sterling is more consistent and has a much better work rate. Hazard has too many off days imo and is not world class yet. Neither is Sterling but his consistency for a 19 year old is nothing short of amazing. He has also added more goals to his game, so I would rather have him than Hazard in the team.
I personally think hazard is very talented but is so inconsistent and enourmously overated its insane, the world of football speaks of him as a god but honestly he is so inconsistent its embarrassing.
01 Sep 2014 20:01:38
Indian
You got it partially wrong. Hazzard is still world class talent. But When you play him as WB, He looks poor. Same goes with Willian.
Too Defensive and No attacking.
Hazard is a huge talent and very good player BUT can only do one thing, attack. He is not a complete footballer yet and at 19, he was NOT performing in a competitive league and playing different positions week in week out like Sterling is doing now at Liverpool. That I can guarantee you. I know this because I`ve known him since his debut at Lille 7 years ago. Despite him playing in a sometimes restrictive system at Chelsea, he is not consistent enough even in a Belgian system that is very offensive as we saw at the WC where he was average at best and outshone by Origi, Mertens and De Bruyne. Hazard can still get better BUT has to add a lot more to his gae because if not, he will be left behind by the likes of Sterling, Navas and even Januszaj.
01 Sep 2014 18:38:59
Come on Harry, come make a bid for Glen Johnson.You know it makes sense
Yeah - "common" Boom, do us all a favour ;)
Discount deal £3m + £1m if you stay up.
Would be the best piece of business we do in a long time. Johnson leaving would actually benefit the club, and i'm not talking from the financial point of view.
01 Sep 2014 19:41:37
Harrys reaction to that would be . " Well you know he's a top top top player , triffic lad"
01 Sep 2014 20:19:00
luke
Insane. that nearly gave me a mini heart attack.
01 Sep 2014 18:13:29
On ESPN Transfer centre, it says Yusuf Erdogan transferred from Liverpool to Southampton and it has the authentic Liverpool logo before his name. Does anyone anything about this?
Who the duck is he?
01 Sep 2014 18:56:44
This guy is/was a Trabzonspur player , no connection with LFC , as anyone with access to a computer could have found out .
There is a young Turkish goal keeper, Yusuf Mersin at LFC. Maybe Erdogan is one of his middle name/names?
01 Sep 2014 20:49:00
AG, Mersin was released in July.
01 Sep 2014 21:31:15
Yusuf Mersin left LFC in May .
Ah right. Thanks for that fellows.
01 Sep 2014 18:03:12
For those of you doubting the impact Fenway have had, back in 2010 the auditors had to 'qualify' the accounts showing a £55m loss (i.e the club couldn't sustain the losses). In that window we signed Paul Konchesky, Christian Poulsen and Milan Jovanovic, plus Joe Cole and Raul Meireles. Only Meireles could even be considered a partial success. We were out of the Champions League and on a helter skelter ride to oblivion. Since then we have come close to winning the league, got back in the Champions League and have spent a fortune on the squad. We have quality players in all positions and are on the up, playing lovely football. We could easily have been in the position of Rangers FC, climbing back up from the Conference League. They have done a pretty good job.
. waiting for Waro or Ozone to respond. get ready.
The success is down to Brendan Rodgers. Absolutely class the way were passing the ball, slick speed and determination to get the ball back and hunger in the entire squad to score goals. Masterstroke by FSG getting BR
Man, can't we all learn to love and live with each other? LOL
01 Sep 2014 20:04:26
Oh dear. Waro would love this. You are gone. lols.
02 Sep 2014 06:24:54
But I read, particularly from Ed002 and I have no reason to not believe - we are still losing money and it's not sustainable
01 Sep 2014 17:57:33
Radamel Falcao to earn £346,000 per week as Manchester United pay £24m for season-long loan . Ouch
01 Sep 2014 18:24:37
Football madness exceeds itself yet again! He's not what they need.
Ridiculously stupid deal imo. Unless RVP is going under the knife, signing Falcao makes absolutely no sense. No use signing all these expensive forwards if the midfield and wing backs cannot create chances for them. They bought neon lights to decorate their shiny new car but forgot to install the engine.
£40m deal LOL
Reeks of desperation over there after di Maria and falcao.
I don't think the loan fee is that high. But why are you posting this here?
They are going to have to go for goals over clean sheets that's for sure.
Surely that can't be true can it . for a loan?
To be fair they had to do something to cheer up the miserable lot in the stands. They've no champions league and are already out of 2 competitions this season
01 Sep 2014 20:06:49
That figure might be close enough, else he would have been with Juventus.
Eds did confirmed Juventus Interest in the player.
Falcao to snub CL?. Surely He would be paid at the highest.
01 Sep 2014 17:49:53
I hope Coates has a full season at Sunderland and we get him revitalised for next season, for me he has all the raw ingredients to be the top class CB we actually need in the team alongside Lovren.
01 Sep 2014 18:28:38
Gotta disagree with part of your post, north.
I do wish him well if he gets a move and hopes he does well wherever he goes.
However, I cannot see him as a regular starter at any time for us if we continue to play the way Brendan has us currently playing. He's just too slow.
Someone else said that a good loan may set him up for a permanent move to an Italian side where the pace of the game would suit him better, and I completely agree.
He may have done well under, say, Benitez or Houllier when our defenders tended to sit a lot deeper.
The puzzle for me is why Illori hasn't been tried so far, even in pre-season, as with his pace, I would've thought he'd be ideally suited. Let's wait and see in the cup games, I guess.
He has potential mate but he has already played his last game for Liverpool. We will have Ilori back from loan next season with Lovren and Sakho already first choice and Jones from the Academy, I simply do not see space for him in the squad. He will probably end up in Italy next season if he does well.
Coates has never had the maturity, concentration or desire to play for Liverpool, never really seen him put in a good performance.
01 Sep 2014 17:49:00
Hi Ed, Just a tad curious as their has been no word what so ever on a Romero/Valdes today? ssn haven't mentioned anything involving us and was just a bit curious because we are terrible with keeping our business a secret, do you think their has been no mention because it is more a less wrapped up or because we are not interested in Romero and would prefer Valdes, I also know that we can sign Valdes at any time due to him being a free agent?
{Ed001's Note - it is more because it is not a big story.}
Ed001, is LFC even interested in Valdes or is it just media c**p?
{Ed001's Note - I believe he is being considered in case we can't get a deadline day deal done.}
But wouldn't the signing on and agent fees along with his high wages be too much for the club? Its high time the club starts bringing down the wage bill, UEFA must be keeping a close watch on the club's accounts.
{Ed001's Note - I don't think money is his main motivation right now mate.}
Eds what will happen to jones . will he be playing for the U21s
{Ed002's Note - Jones is likely well beyond that.}
01 Sep 2014 17:42:27
We should make a last minute bid for Matheus Biteco from Gremio. I think he will be a very good player in the future, similar to Fernandinho but also would be a decent option to have in midfield with his technical ability, pace and athleticism.
01 Sep 2014 21:20:10
We've just recovered from Suarez, why on earth would we now got for Biteco?!
01 Sep 2014 17:40:56
Any news on out goings Macca if borini actually wants to leave.
01 Sep 2014 17:40:19
Would be grateful if you could post this on the banter page Ed's please.
Lyndon, I need to take you to task over your reply to my post this morning son.
1. I don't hate Joe Allen, imo he just isn't good enough.
What I do hate are posters like you who excuse his p**s poor performances on things like him becoming a new dad who may be getting up for a night feed with the baby ( for the posters who never read posts claiming those as reasons for poor performances, trust me, people actually said this! )
2. I have never repeat NEVER criticised Jordan Henderson, in fact it's the complete reverse, I have always defended him and said he had great potential and needed time, a few of my mates never liked him from day 1 and as I say I defended him to the hilt with them.
So in summary Lyndon, if your going to lie, then at least make your lies something worth reading.
There endeth the lesson, consider yourself schooled.
His good performances have greatly outweighed his 'p*ss poor' ones in recent months though. he's a great player to have in the squad in my opinion.
01 Sep 2014 18:08:45
You were at him all the time!
I'm sure Eds can find posts if still available to them?
01 Sep 2014 18:08:56
Very harsh to call his performances piss poor. I think he's a decent player lallana will most probably replace him but a very good squad player. IMO Gerrard played really bad Sunday every pass was shocking. I don't think he's lost it but if there was a person to criticise from Sunday it would be gerrard.
Hmmm, at him all the time, yet you've nothing to back your lies up, now that is strange! Tell a lie often enough and people will believe it, is that what your going for?
I seem to remember you saying Sturridge was a terrible buy and a equally terrible player with a poor attitude. Hmmm!
People will just always hate Waro for some reason (The owners). I am on your side for this argument though.
To be honest, at least waro admits he is wrong when the time arises, I have a sneaky suspiscion that many users here change their opinion willy nilly based on whether it is an upward or downward curve, eg the people that slag off gerrard after one bad game and then want to make babies with him after he absolutely nails a fifty yard assist in a game.
Anonymous wooly back I totally disagree with your post oh wait a minute I might totally agree with you i'm not sure ill get the commin consensus then let you know where I stand lol
02 Sep 2014 11:15:07
Waro oh! the irony of being schooled by someone who's more than likely hardly stepped foot in one!
I never said sturridge was no good. But yes I said he had a bad attitude. But I never once abused him or any other player at the club to the levels the did about Henderson in particular and others.
I was more than happy to give a young man time to adjust like say Lucas. Oh! Another you abused ALOT!!
01 Sep 2014 17:21:05
Any chance of a last minute move for Arturo Vidal eds? It'd be nice to have someone of that quality Warming the bench should super Jordan Henderson ever pick up a knock.
01 Sep 2014 19:26:02
This was an excellent joke and well-deserved appraisal of Hendo's quality. I agreed with it DBol :)
01 Sep 2014 16:38:31
Who is going to be vice captain? Eveyone who is mande vice captain appears to suddenly leave. Carragher, Reina, Agger
01 Sep 2014 16:51:06
Going by your logic Johnson needs to be made the vice captain
Carra and agger hardly left suddenly.
I wouldn't call retiring 10 years after being appointed vice-captain a sudden departure.
On a more serious note, the most likely candidates for the vice-captaincy are:
By age/experience - Lucas, Skrtel, Johnson. All of these are likely to not feature too much or leave soon.
By on field presence - Henderson, Lovren, Lallana. Mignolet potentially, but only if he could command his area a better. Sakho also has experience as a captain. I would give it to Henderson, since the others four have only been here a little while.
Should be a toss up between Lovren and Hendo, but I would pick Hendo because Lovren is a newcomer.
01 Sep 2014 18:21:11
To be fair, Carra was a vice captain for 10 years, so hardly a curse!
01 Sep 2014 18:23:01
BTW, should definitely be Hendo, with Lovren and Lallana in the wings for the future once they have more Liverpool games under their belts.
Wouldn't personally pick Migs or Skirts given that their lack of communication has been highlighted as one of our defensive weaknesses in the past, hence hardly a ringing endorsement for vice-captain-hood!
Hopefully Henderson as vice captain and then we have a dynamic VC on the field hopefully when BR starts dropping Stevie to allow Can take that position and utilising Stevie as a Super Sub in a more attacking role.
01 Sep 2014 16:31:38
Eds - If Liverpool were to sign a free agent like Valdes, don't they have to be listed on the 25 player roster to be eligible? Or can the team leave a space (go with 24) and fill it in later?
{Ed001's Note - a space can be left.}
It is a maximum of 25 players on or over the age of 21.
When Coates, Assaidi, Borini and Adorjan leaves today, LFC will have 19 players (of the 25 spaces available) whoa re 21 and over.
The likes of Sterling, Suso, Manquilio, Emre Can, Yesil and Markovic don't have to be included in the 25.
Right AG that much I understood but I think the list has to be submitted tomorrow and I didn't know if you could add to it later if there were less than 25.
{Ed002's Note - Yes but with the possible exception of Valdez Liverpool won't be. The squad is plenty big enough already.}
01 Sep 2014 18:34:13
Manquillo, Markovic & Can do need to be included in the CL list because they haven't been at the club for 2 years. Unless they removed that restriction this year.
The system is:
"A" list - max of 25 players of any age, of whom 4 must be trained at the club and an additional 4 trained in the association.
"B" list - Any number of players as long as they're under 21 (I can't remember the exact date at which they have to be below 22 on) AND have been at the club for at least 2 years. Sterling, Suso & I think Flanagan can go on this list, and thus not take up places on the "A" list, but Manquillo can't because he hasn't been here long enough. So along with Markovic and Can, he has to go on the "A" list.
By my reckoning, if we sell, loan or just don't select Coates, Assaidi and Borini, we'll have one available space on the "A" list that can go to a non-association trained player.
01 Sep 2014 16:23:21
Some deals today are incredible. Abel Hernandez to Hull and Falcao to United are some major coups!
Abel Hernandez is a decent player, but not great. He is very hit and miss.
The Falcao one is baffling. Do Manchester United need a striker?
I'd say that falcao signing would be a positive addition to every squad in the premier league
Hernandez will prove to be a good deal for Hull.
United just getting Falcao to get teams to focus on their attack rather than their weak defence. BUT, if arsenal doesn't sign a striker then they may have a fight on their hands.
I'm of the same opinion as AG here.
Surely they need a DM and CB?
Seems like a buy to appease the fans?
Ps who cares: they are rubbish ;0)
With those strikers in front of that midfield and defence it's like getting a Ferrari to tow a broken down Allegro.
01 Sep 2014 16:18:11
Borini - so we have had £14m accepted by Sunderland, but he doesn't want to go there.
We have £13m or so accepted from QPR and he does? Maybe they are showing some ambition, but it seems a strange choice above Sunderland.
Maybe he wants to live in West London?
QPR also signing Sandro by the looks of it. If they get Borini and Sandro, I would not be surprised to see them finish at least in the top12. Also got Caulker, so a pretty good transfer window for them.
If you were a 23 year old successful and relatively rich italian, where would you live? Sunderland och London?
01 Sep 2014 16:45:20
They're probably offering the wages he was happy to sit in our reserves & take rather than move to Sunderland
Hes greedy get rid of him
They got Fer, Ferdinand, Isla, McCarthy are also signing Sandro so Borini obviously feels that they have ambition and that they will be good for him, not saying the location is a factor in this deal but it's also a plus.
01 Sep 2014 16:01:21
Borini YNWA!I appreciate your hunger and determination to succeed. You didn't make it at Liverpool but you will at either QPR, Sunderland or Inter.
The Borini saga is really getting tiresome. The lad really needs to realise that he is some way of being an attractive proposition for the top clubs. Spending a couple of seasons at QPR or Sunderland and building his reputation by playing regularly and then moving to Italy would be a very good career path, but he seems to want too much to soon. At Inter or AC Milan, he would be a bench warmer.
Has he agreed to the deal this time?
01 Sep 2014 15:59:10
Sandro apparently going to QPR for 6 million quid. Seems an absolute bargain! Think he'd be a quality replacement if Lucas were to leave.
Anyway, it's nice having pretty much all your business done :) We've got excellent depth and quality
Agreed mate. Sandro is quality, and at 6 million GBP is an absolute steal. QPR doing some really good business, hope Borini also goes there. Cannot see them getting relegated with those 2 in their team.
01 Sep 2014 15:44:11
It's true that watching deadline day is no way as entertaining seeing we got most of our deals done and dusted before today but it's also great to know we r stronger looking more solid and playing attractive football now! I can well remember the disappointment at the end of the last window ( Johnson was still going to b a first team player) no strength at the back no real strength in depth yet we still finished second! Now our defence is equipped I see another strong season ahead Y.N.W.A
I still remember the window before when we had the Free Agent rule book out trying to work out if we could still sign Owen after the window had shut! Yes, Michael Owen! How times change ey!
01 Sep 2014 15:29:11
we had a very good transfer window so far, I was hoping we would bring a top top defensive midfielder to rotate with gerrard or even play them together in big matches away from home like chelsea often do.
if lucas would leave today we will be short, can is not ready for that role yet.
henderson could play that role but we need him as a running midfielder his energy helps the team.
we are 1 midfielder short unless BR thinks rossiter will get game time.
if cuates, assaidi, lucas, borini, suso leave today we will have 20 players in the squad not sure that's enough.
and mignolet does not convince me he is a good shot stopper just a opinion.
we played well yesterday we are a team that is building for the future and I think we are nearly there.
Malta
Yes I agree. We are a Mascherano type player away from challenging for the title.
01 Sep 2014 16:51:11
Agreed, someone of that ilk to break up play and fill gaps in defence - Vidal would be awesome in our team & thought Medel could have been a good (cheaper) option too
Vidal is not a mascherano type player At all. he's like a deep lying, box to box, hard tackling, creative, energetic, playmaking, quick and powerful midfielder!
Well, to some extent anyway. But he's got it all basically!
01 Sep 2014 15:22:43
A moment of appreciation for Daniel Sturridge on this day, his 25th birthday.
I can only say that he has been sensational for us over the last season and a half and can only wish he keeps it up. At this rate he will surely be remembered as one of Liverpool's greatest ever strikers, and hopefully will outshine his former striker partner - having got more goals in his first 50 games than Torres, Daglish, God, and Suarez.
Somebody send him a cake
Don't let Mario light the candles! ;0)
01 Sep 2014 14:54:41
James Pearce of the Liverpool Echo has confirmed that there is genuine interest in Victor Valdes, but any deal for him won't be done today. Any possible deal would probably happen in October/November because of Valdes' injury.
Well my fellow reds, it looks like we're officially done with our signings for the summer, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's delighted with what we've got (though, I would have liked a bit of deadline day drama on our part.
I am not really a big fan of Valdes but between him and Romero, I would pick Valdes hands down. I am not even sure Romero is as good as Jones let alone Mignolet. Just hope we do not offer Valdes a ridiculous signing on fee and wages just bcoz he played for Barca.
If we want to sign Valdes, we will have to give him a very significant signing-on fee and huge wages.
I wouldn't sign him, seeing as he is still recovering from a very serious injury.
They are both poor GK`s. Romero is is the best of the worst in Argentina regardless of his two penalty saves at the WC while Valdes benefited (no fault of his) from a very good Barca system that defends through ball possession. Each time he was exposed, he was aweful. I`d rather keep Jones than sign those two clowns.
Redohio, I would also like to see Mignolet and Jones keep their places for this season, but BR obviously thinks differently. Imo, I would sign a top notch keeper like Kevin Trapp or Ron Robert Zieler for next season than try out hit and miss keepers like Valdes and Romero.
Excuse my ignorance, but what is valdes' injury! Would it affect a goalkeeper as much as an outfielder?
Torn ligaments
Buzzer, I`m with you too. If BR thinks Migs needs competition, then he should get a GK that actually COMPETE and or take his spot because those two clowns are so INFERIOR to Migs to the point being ridiculous. If we can`t find a keeper to compete then let`s try to improve on what we have through good coaching and enouragement instead of buying for the sake of it.
01 Sep 2014 14:43:17
Hoping we sign a decent defensive midfielder and another 'keeper.
Ain`t going to happen because we already have Can who can play the DM position and the two Gk`s we are linked w/ (Valdes and Romero) are frankly inferior to Migs and Jones.
01 Sep 2014 13:58:01
Henderson. Jesus. To think a lot of us we're so unsure of him. Impacted on two of the goals and overall just fantastic. Next captain?
Ps somebody should tell louis that Falcao ain't a centre half!
01 Sep 2014 13:38:39
I can't help but feel a we bit left out today. just as all our business has been sorted.
A well here's dreaming of a we buzz before the window shuts!
Munchhausen.
01 Sep 2014 13:15:31
I read some comments by Waro down the page. And I agree that Balotelli looked decent - in fact he looked better than I remember him to have been. IMO his display could be summed up as honest; team-player and overall 'promising'.
However, Stevey on ssn alluded to the fact that Balotelli's level of commitment must be maintained over the longer term; so for me the jury's still out. I was impressed tho. And, like Waro, I was very much against his signing. If I'm proved wrong I'll stand corrected and will gladly hold my hands up to EMS and others.
On Joe Allen - I thought he was solid and decent against Spurs (where he had been ineffectual against Citehs giants). he's a solid player IMO and I don't think we should let him go - its a long season and we'll need the squad. I don't see the value in depleting it.
Finally, on Brendan; I think he was a little unsure on tactics/formation/his best team - as well as having new players to settle etc but he seems to have sorted that after stuttering in first couple of games. So I think we'll grow and get better as the games. come. The mans a genius IMO. Oh, and his home town is just up the road from me so I might be a tad biased.
01 Sep 2014 12:27:22
Hi ed1 or ed2 can tell me what happened to the teenage winger Mathias Pinto on trial.
Thanks eds
{Ed002's Note - I really don't know Jo Jo.}
01 Sep 2014 12:40:20
Jo Jo
Mate. Magnificent Avtar Image.
Sure I heard it was for three weeks, maybe ongoing.
01 Sep 2014 12:09:42
Ed002,
Have you heard of any rumours or whispers of any other players coming in apart frm a keeper?
Cheers
Kj
{Ed002's Note - RTP.}
01 Sep 2014 11:58:08
Glad we got our business done early in the window without the last minute silliness of Dempsey & Kono.
Good win & performance yesterday, hopefully will play the 442 diamond more often than 433 as it seems to suit us better, it did last year & I think Sturridge benefits from having someone playing alongside him. Lallana then slots in for Allen for me in our best 11.
01 Sep 2014 11:30:42
Some quotes from Sunderland manager Gus Poyet, who says the Black Cats are still hopeful of signing Fabio Borini from the Sunderland Echo.
He said: "Yes (I still want him). I know Fabio and I'm a big believer that when you know the players, you know what you are going to get.
"You are convinced that he's the right player with the right mentality.
"I know how people think, but unfortunately we cannot give the true information over why he's not with us.
"From the outside, it looks like he doesn't want to come to Sunderland.
"But I can promise you it's not like that.
"I keep it open because he's still a Liverpool player and then maybe he can be a Sunderland player."
Could it be we still are looking for yet another forward and won't release Fabio until its complete?
All conspiracy theories welcome!
01 Sep 2014 11:12:30
Not really sure what to make of United signing Falcao. I mean yes he's a great player, but it was their midfield and defence which has been letting them down all season. I also don't like the way they're throwing crazy money around to buy their way out of their crisis rather than earning their way back to the top. I know people will say we spent over 100mil on players but ours were mostly young players with potential. Fair enough they're in a difficult situation but it's ridiculous and they're just hitting the panic button. I mean one of Falcao, Rooney and RVP are going to be on the bench anyway so I can't see the logic.
On another note, great win yesterday. I've watched it back and the 4-4-2 diamond really gives Sterling plenty of space in the hole. Henderson I thought was brilliant which is something we're getting used to. Lovren and Sakho was a bit hit and miss but it kept us a clean sheet so I'm not complaining! Balotelli and Sturridge worked well for me. You can see that Sturridge clearly plays better with a partner up front, and the initial signs are good. Moreno was excellent, and had it not been for Sterling's outstanding display, he would have been my MOTM. Also a question Ed, we seen Gerrard struggling in the first half of yesterday's game, any injury news or was it just one that he ran off?
Cheers,
01 Sep 2014 11:39:10
RVP As I heard will have an operation on his knees, So Falcao on the last minute to replace him. RVP was a poor purchase for UTD. Just one season and rest on the treatment table.
Untill they play Fletcher and Carrick in the middle, I ll have no problem in beating them.
Lets see If they pull in Vidal.
{Ed002's Note - You need to take all of this to the MU page and not clutter it up here.}
Some of Sturridge and Balotelli's link play was exceptional for a striker partnership making its debut. The cross for Balotelli in the first three minutes and the Balo backheel later on were personal favourites of mine.
Also like just to note how amazed I was with Balotellli's first touch.
The one signing that Manchester United could have made to actually worry me would have been Vidal. He would have solved the whole problem in midfield, the best box to box midfielder in the world with incredible work rate. Falcao imo is just a panic buy to appease the fans.
{Ed002's Note - Maybe they will sign him?}
01 Sep 2014 12:20:27
thought all the lads worked hard for a good result,balo missed a few chances but was getting in the positions. more pleased with his non reaction to dier going through the back of him. old balo would have got him by the throat.
01 Sep 2014 11:00:11
Hi everybody. I am very pleased to be member of this site for the first time and to be able to communicate with fellow LFC fans all over the world. A big thanks for the Eds for accepting me as member. As for our match against Spurs I was really astonished and over the moon by our display against a good Spurs side. I really think our team has improved from last season even if we have lost Suarez. For his first match Balo was outstanding even if he has missed some chances and Moreno. my goodness what a cracking player he is and Sterling for me is the Messi of our team.
{Ed002's Note - Welcome Salim.}
Welcome to the site Salim!
Hi Salim :0)
Welcome salim
Morning/Afternoon/Evening everyone
Welcome Salim
01 Sep 2014 14:32:29
Salim
Reet says Hi. lols
Harry
You could always choose the right option depending on your time zone
Reet mate, I think Harry is constantly in the dark.?
01 Sep 2014 10:58:52
Last season we struggled at times with 4cbs in our team without europe. So it would be a good idea if we keep coates as our 5th this season and maybe even play him ahead of Toure.
Still gutted that Agger left.
01 Sep 2014 11:13:24
So we should just disregard FFP in favour of keeping a serially mediocre lump as 5th choice?
Coates is not a mediocre lump. your not a LFC fan for sure. The premier league is simply a bit too fast paced for him, his reading of the game considering his lack of experience and game time is pretty good imo. Just hope Poyet can revitalize his career. I can see Coates moving to a top side in Serie A where the slow pace of the game would suit him.
01 Sep 2014 14:34:16
I haven't seen anything to the contrary.
01 Sep 2014 10:33:56
Falcao must be determined not to play Champions League football in his career. As soon as his club qualifies, he leaves!
Well let's hope history doesn't repeat itself. He's about to go to United according to ssn.
Lets hope he has a long career at the Mancs then!
01 Sep 2014 11:41:02
Falcao is a fantastic striker and on its day He is unplayable, He is a goal scoring machine, just because He signed for UTD or Chelsea, He won't be bad player.
01 Sep 2014 10:25:58
Hi eds, I've heard a rumour that Suso might be given a chance after all this season if he can't be shipped out this window, doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to le but just wondering if you've heard anything similar
Many thanks
Henlow red
{Ed002's Note - It has been a bit of a mess with Suso this summer. Him wanting commitments that the club, quite rightly can't give, the club pricing him out of a move to Porto, the club offering him as part of deals for other players, the kid saying he wants to stay but seemingly unwilling to commit to a new contract, the club wanting to move him on to get him off the wage bill etc.. Right now it looks like he is staying - perhaps when the dust settles a new deal can be sorted out. I would think chances will be pretty slim to be honest.}
Henlow! Lol so close 2 me
01 Sep 2014 10:25:00
I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised by Balotelli's effort yesterday. That being his first game since the World Cup, his link up and hold up play were excellent and his effort helping out the defence really surprised me, well done to the lad, just his sharpness in front of goal was missing but that's to be expected, if that's not just a one off and not just trying to impress early doors then I will hold my hands up and say I got him wrong.
Lovren had me a little bit bemused, some of his defending was outstanding but came from his own terrible defending ( sliding tackle on Adebayor for example ) if that makes sense, hopefully he will stop overly trying to impress and just concentrate on defending, but early signs are we've got a top class defender potentially.
Moreno looks outstanding so to Manquillo, the rest i.e. Sturridge Sterling Henderson etc were there usual excellent selves, Stevie first half and Allen all game were poor, hopefully Can will take Allen's place sooner rather than later, I hope that United get even more desperate and give us the £20mill that was rumoured last week, for half that price I'd carry him to OT whilst pulling a bus and over broken glass.
Excellent performance though all in all, but as I said after the City game, expect a few dodgy results while the Manager finds his most balanced team so factor that into your thinking for upcoming games.
Stevie G very guarded in his comments to Carra on SSports interview regarding Mario!
Once Mario manages to file off the corners of his thru'penny bit head, he might get a few goals
Encouraging start, but a long way to go yet.
01 Sep 2014 11:20:23
For once Waro I agree with you, although I think Gerrard will improve Allen was a bit of a weak link, despite winning the penalty.
How was Allen a weak link? Honestly can't work out why some fans are determined to have a go at him no matter what - he was economical with his passing, kept possession well, contributed both offensively and defensively (including winning us a penalty) and generally had a good game. He was not a weak link at all but he is certainly an easy target for fans who seem determined to put the lad down no matter what. Gerrard was woeful in the first half yesterday and, though he improved in the 2nd, was still very mediocre - if you are looking for a weak link in the team there it is. Honestly sick of the jib Allen gets, lad can't do anything to appease fans irrespective of how he performs, sad.
01 Sep 2014 11:42:28
Fornax
I am sorry mate, But there is nothing Gerrard to improve. Can is the best player at that position now.
01 Sep 2014 12:29:21
Based on what Harry? 2 hours of pre-season and half an hour of PL football?
01 Sep 2014 12:43:53
Hjikle
No Mate, 180mts of PL matches 2014/15, and almost 500 mts last season. Gerrard is the weakest link.
Have you ever imagined how good and complete our team would be with a player of Schniderlin in the middle with Hendo and lallana?
I can't agree with the comment about Allen.
He has been one of the better midfield performers for me this season.
Gerrard has been poor so far. And I love the man. Second half he was much better though so I am hoping its just him settling in for the season.
Overall the signs look good.
That front 3 we played yesterday is frightening in any one's language. If they hit it off we could be in for another fantastic ride.
I feel we just need to stay close to the top for the next 2 months and not fall back while our squad settles down. If we manage this then we will have a very good season.
Our style of play is already standing out again which can only be a good thing.
01 Sep 2014 14:57:10
Waro I see Allen is your new Hate figure at the club now.
season and an half ago it was Henderson
Think Rodgers used gave him your posts to read before bed!!
You've got to admit He made you.look a tad silly!
Gerrard played really well yesterday
Some people on here need to be reminded that the long serving Gerrard is not only the captain, but also the inspirational leader of a team that has seen its fair share of ups and downs in the last decade. But he is still the heart and in the core of LFC today. You don't replace that with a 20 year old newcomer. We all knew his career is on the downward slope. So put the knives away, and save us the myopic magnanimous "weakest link" declarations. He'll be eased off gradually, as we all expect. He may even walk off on his own as Carragher did. In the meantime, if you're a real fan, have some respect for a guy who's done a hell of a lot to make/keep you a LFC fan.
01 Sep 2014 10:22:47
Hi EDs, with rumours of Lucas, Borini and Coates being on the "Brendanded" list, any rumours emerging on cover? Defensive midfield especially?
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool is looking to move a number of outfield players on, not bring them in.}
01 Sep 2014 09:56:40
Monero's goal was so similar to the goal riise scored against Chelsea in the community shield in 06, Sad how that cl own goal against Chelsea sort of ended his time at Liverpool.
I loved riise but I hope monero turns out to be an even better lb. he's definitely going to be our first choice lb this season
As for Rb I think flanagan should be first choice when fit, then Manquilo and then johnson. I used to like johnson but with him seeming disinterested recently and probably leaving next season we need to give these boys a chance.
Skrtle, Lovern, Alan, Stelling, Monero, Manquilo, Ballotelli, Sturbridge, Garard.
Thank god we didn't sign Konoplyanka or Mkhitaryan ;)
Whoever the RB is this year, they're going to be busy once the opposing right wingers realise they ain't going to outrun Moreno! That kid's got natural speed.
Very quick, how he left Townsend for dust. . Wow!
AND Townsend just came on, he was fresh.
01 Sep 2014 08:33:27
Suso will be at ac milan on loan
01 Sep 2014 08:56:19
AC Milan's new look 11 cost 0 mill. All in lon or Freetransfers lols.
Im still trying to figure out how they can afford Torres' wages. Maybe Chelsea are subsidizing a significant portion or something. Has Aquilani written all over it.
{Ed002's Note - Why the obsession about other clubs and their finances - which you clearly don't seem to know anything about?}
I would want to see suso play for us. He looked a very decent player two seasons ago when he was part of the squad and has done well on loan last season.
I would atleast keep him till January and play him in the cup and see what he does. I think he could turn out to be quality
Agree with you Pakred - but the problem is the lad is seeking assurances about game time and we can't give him them. And when you look at our squad now, indeed Suso must be doing the same, you have to say its difficult to see where he would fit in exactly - his best position is probably at the tip of a diamond and we have Coutinho, Lallana and Sterling who can play there: is Suso going to displace any of those players? I like the lad but can't help feeling his days at the club are numbered - just hope he moves to a good team where he can show his quality. Don't get me wrong I'd like to keep him but there seems to be an impasse between the role the club see him playing and the role he wants to play - with his contract almost up I'd think it unlikely he will remain. If he does I'd be delighted though.
01 Sep 2014 08:32:34
Premier league team can't loan two players from the same club. Mistake there ed!
{Ed002's Note - Sunderland would be looking at both players with a view to a loan but would not expect to have both on loan (if that makes sense).
You mean view to a permanent deal ed? Lol
{Ed002's Note - If one is a loan with an agreement to buy at the end then that is within the rules.}
01 Sep 2014 04:11:44
Eds. I just want to thank you for all you hard work and for keeping us informed during the Liverpool transfer window.
YNWA
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
01 Sep 2014 08:57:44
Absolutely bang on Penguin.
Spl thanks to everyone involved with the sites.
31 Aug 2014 21:30:00
Evening eds.
Just wondered if you guys had any transfer rumours for us to look out for as the window closes. Not necessarily Liverpool related. Just curious
Cheers
Tom
{Ed002's Note - Try reading the other pages.}
01 Sep 2014 05:01:13
With a lot of talk about Lucas leaving, just thought i'd post a link to this video.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=R6SWhtu87x8
If nothing else, just to remind everyone what he's done for our club and what he is still capable of. Personally I love the guy, i'd take players like Lucas (proud to play for the club) any day over his more talented counterparts who just see the club as a stepping stone. (Suarez, Moreno etc.)
Moreno? Why mention him? He only just started playing for us?
Love Lucas, but I really don't see him playing ahead of Gerrard, Can, Allen, Henderson, Coutinho and Lallana. a move to another club might be the best move for him right now, if he can get a club that he would prefer would be a nice touch as well.
its true, some people see us as a stepping stone. but we have the opportunity now, to make us a club that people want to be in, and are here to stay, by winning. see people want to play for Barcelona, Real Madrid, and Bayern Munich because these guys are winners in their leagues and in europe. right now, we have the opportunity to do that, and we need the Suarez the Morenos to be there (of course I know Suarez is no longer here, just trying to put across my point). who knows, in 2 years Moreno might reject Real Madrid in order to stay put, don't rule that out yet mate.
Fyi.
Lucas is on pretty high wages couldn't match by any italian clubs.
I thought he is playing for free with Liverpool
Personally I think some people are stuck in a time warp when it comes to players and their loyalty. don't get me wrong! It is nice that a player has respect for our club. It means they have enjoyed their time at the club and the fans have madethem feel wecome, something that Lfc does better than most clubs, but sentiment should never get in the way of progress. To think that you should hold onto a loyal player and give him game time over a better quality player is absurd. I heard a wise old man once say "players are only transient employees of the club". can't remember his name tho!
I love how Lucas smacked down Indy K on twitter after he made up rumours of Leiva leaving Liverpool
Lucas is the best defensive midfielder we have. Albeit, he's the only natural defensive midfielder we have!
Personally, I think Lucas's injuries have taken their toll and he isn't able to quite reach his previous levels. Which is a shame because we desperately need the qualities he brings in front of the back 4. Qualities that the alternatives don't excel in.
Would I keep him? That would depend on where or how BR intends to use Emre Can? If he intends using him in that role then I'd let him go, if not then I'd keep him and play him predominantly in the bigger games where we clearly need to tighten up.
Whilst I agree with Irish Rover about sentiment vs talent, I think that he still retains enough ability for this not to be an issue just yet!
I think the problem is that our midfield looks sluggish when both Lucas and Gerrard play in the same team. Lucas is a class defensive midfielder but we need more dynamism if Gerrard is playing as well (which he definitely will irrespective of form) - as a result Lucas's role will be on the periphery this season (if he remains): I doubt he'd be happy with a bit-part role.
01 Sep 2014 11:47:09
Sirshinks.
The problem with Lucas is, he is static like Nigel Dejong. He breaks up the play. but doesn't add an inch after. similar to Mikel.
01 Sep 2014 12:22:24
hes not static he just positions himself well so doesn't need to sprint around. he's also a much better passer than mikel and de jong. having said that if gerrards going to be starting the majority of our games (barring injury he will) then its probably best for him and the club for him to move on.
01 Sep 2014 00:36:59
HI reds just wanna say that I am delighted with the performance and i'm happy with 6 points out of these first 3 difficult games
I just had a question that I was hoping someone would be able to help me with.
I want to buy a Liverpool membership that would allow me to buy tickets for both barclays premier league matches and for champions league matches can anyone help me out as too which membership I should be buying
Thanks
We truly are the best fans in the land
01 Sep 2014 09:08:21
Light membership is good enough fella.
01 Sep 2014 01:06:40
Hopefully that Morenon goal will be what's remembered and not the first city goal, had a touch of Riise about it. Shame Mario was a tad rusty today, should have been 5-0. I thought his overall effort was pretty good though, I'm almost certain he cleared from inside our box at one stage, not very Mario-like from memory. Great to keep a clean sheet and I notice Lovren is getting some good comments. Not bashing, just opining, I tend to think he goes to ground a bit too often, maybe slight lack of pace at times? It's obvious though that he organises well. Interesting to see what happens when Skrtel is fit again.
Mario actually played well, no doubt should have scored but I thought he held the ball up well at times and my a couple of excellent passes. He has brilliant ball control
01 Sep 2014 09:01:33
I wasn't actually worried with Ballo missing sitter.
The presence of the Italian all needed for Sturridge to hit the top gear.
Sturridge is deadly played with another striker.
He is the new Suarez at Liverpool
31 Aug 2014 22:53:14
Will be watching all the transfer news unfold tomorrow. Looking forward to the window closing tbh.
I'm guessing after Tuesday the rumours and questions die down. So, Just a quick post to say a huge thanks to the EDs, especially 001 & 002. All other posters on here too.
Really enjoyed some good banter, sharing thoughts, hilarious replies from the EDs thoughout the whole summer.
Thanks also for all the info, knowledge and gossip surrounding my beloved team. Great job Eds and hope between Tuesday and January you get a well deserved break
Wish you all a great rewarding season ahead, will pop by for some match day banter soon. Just wanted to get my thanks in early. Take care all
{Ed007's Note - What a crawler! A+ for brown-nosing, any others?}
Yes, Ed0033. can't think of anyone else tho! ;-)
01 Sep 2014 00:13:39
Alllllllllbert morrrreee-nooooo
Ooooh Ahhhh
I wanna knoo-ooo-oow
How you scored that goal
01 Sep 2014 00:01:32
Skrtle and Johnson injured. First clean sheet in 8 games. Enough said.
Well said mate. Shame BR and his staff cannot see it. We need to use this back 4 for as long as possible and let them gel, we could well have one of the best defences in the league if we do. As shown last season, tinkering with the defence simply to keep fringe players happy is not the answer. If it means Skrtle and Johnson on the bench for an extended period, then so be it.
Don't let that clean sheet fool you, Lovren and Sakho made some silly errors and got off lucky not conceding a goal. Credit must go to the fullbacks, Gerrard and Allen reading the game brilliantly and sweeping up nicely
Can't understand Skrtle haters. He was our player of the season for 2011-2012 and in our the first 2 games Skrtle was better than Lovren. That is fact
Yes Benny, but who played in the last clean sheet? Just asking because I have literally have no idea.
Also credit Mignolet, never gets much on here but that almost point blank save was major in the clean sheet keeping.
Also unfortunately Johnson has to be played as it's in his contract so unless he remains injured he'll be back
In fairness that was Lovren and Sakho's first game as a defensive partnership - they made some mistakes in the first half but by the 2nd completely neutralised Spurs. There understanding will only get better the more games they play together - I hope we do get to see them as our 1st choice defensive pairing.
Spot on, that defence will be one of the best in the league if it is allowed to play together every week, it was very solid and will only get stronger, been saying for over a year that skrtel and johnson are the problem.
Really unfair
31 Aug 2014 23:24:03
Despite the fact he never scored, I thought Sturridge had an excellent game. Dragged Spurs defenders all over the place.
He was brilliant. He is so good with the ball - his close control was sublime. I was hoping he would get a goal, but we didn't need it, so not bothered.
He didn't score, but agreed he was really good playing the role of provider. The opening cross to Balotelli was great as was the pass to Henderson.
Bit unlucky as he did have a couple of shots in the first half which were very close to creeping in, but overall I too thought he was excellent.
01 Sep 2014 06:46:39
Its evident. He would play the role of Suarez and Ballo ll be the Sturridge.
Sturridge needs a Man with him upfront and He is brilliant.same goes with England team. They should play the diamond.
He had an excellent game, but you could see that he really wants to score every time he goes out there.
31 Aug 2014 23:21:22
Hi Eds,
thanks for all the work and information this transfer window. Have you all got an end of window celebration planned?
Does anyone else feel we have brought too many players this window? I just struggle to see how they all fit in.
I will be very interested in seeing how we accommodate all of our attacking players this season: Sturridge / Sterling seem like definite starters.
I think the other 2 positions will be filled by - Lambert / llallana / ballotelli / coutinho . Markovic
We have definitely improved the squad and we look strong in all areas.
Does anyone else feel that this will be the season Gerrard will lose his place in the team?
Thanks
NO! why on earth would gerrard lose his place?
He is still one of our best players FACT!