Liverpool Banter Archive June 20 2017

 

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20 Jun 2017 22:38:43
Hi eds and fellow reds. 1st thing, I'm very happy with the deal for salah coming in to the 1st team. but please can you give me any info on the knock on effect it might have for one of the others regulars in the team? As in, who would you say will miss out on a starting place or do you know if any one of them will be sold? Thanks for your time
And effort you people put in for us fans! 👍🏻


Magsy.

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{Ed025's Note - just my opinion magsy but i think wiji may be the one to miss out mate..

20 Jun 2017 23:07:11
Can i promote my pennies worth? I have a feeling Emre Can will go, which will lead to Wiji having the freedom to peruse that slot in the middle. I know he is a slightly different model to Can, but I do think he has more of an alround game.

I would like both Wiji and Emre to be part of the "squad" being as we have the Champions league to contend with, but I'm a little concerned at why the contract extension has not already been signed. This makes me think he will indeed move on.

If we sign a left back then I suppose Milley can do the job for 2017/ 18.


20 Jun 2017 23:24:34
Hope gini doesn't miss out!
I think it will be lallanawho misses out.
with Hendo (when fit) and either gini or can I'm the middle.


20 Jun 2017 23:49:07
Hendo
Coutinho lallana
Mane sturridge/ firmino salah.


21 Jun 2017 00:23:34
Wiji is solid and more reliable than can. I can see them perhaps sacrifices can to free up some funds and room in the squad. Although I rate emre but still young and inconsistent.
Best case he stays and fights for his place.


21 Jun 2017 00:26:20
Don't think anyone will really miss out in the current first team, long old season with a *hopefully* lot more games.


21 Jun 2017 00:44:41
Gini might start the season on the bench but least klopp will have strength in depth, have better subs and can pick and chose who to play based on form.


21 Jun 2017 01:15:46
When I mentioned the other day that I wouldn't be too worried if Can was sold I was hammered. I didn't mean I thought he should go, just that if decent money came in for him, he wouldn't leave a huge hole. Unless Hendo continues to struggle for fitness and Klopp sees Can as a natural fit at the base? Barrmun suggested Lallana would miss out, can't see that at all, Klopp clearly values his contribution. Let's face it, we have oodles of flexibility in the middle and forward line. Let's focus on the defence now surely?


21 Jun 2017 02:02:31
im feel like in a midfield 3,

Coutinho plays when fit.
Lallana/ Gini compete for a role, or both when Coutinho is not available.
Hendo/ Can compete for a role.

but then again, it could just be a case of the best setup depending on opponent.


21 Jun 2017 02:47:32
It will be Emre wijnaldum and Phil as the 1st choice midfield. Emre and wijnaldum were our best midfielders last season and their partnership has developed hugely and played a huge role in getting top 4. Lallana was beyond average from January onwards and Hendo cannot be relied upon and Emre suits the 6 significantly more than Hendo, his passing is too safe and slow and lacks any penetration into the forwards. Hendo suits the box-box midfielder role as he plays on instinct, he thrived in this role in the 13/ 14 season, where his runs into the box, energy and athleticism improved the overall midfield.


21 Jun 2017 02:55:44
Nobody is going to miss out. Next season is going to be a long one with 60 odd games coming up so there will be plenty of game time for all players in the squad. The first 11 selected will depend on the opposition and their tactics so we could see the likes of Lallana, Gini, Sturridge and Salah being used and rotated depending on the situation. Coutinho, Firmino and Mane imo are the only 3 offensive players to be guaranteed starters.


21 Jun 2017 03:51:51
Agree with ED. think Wijnaldum will be on bench. Emre Coutinho Lallana midfield Salah Firmino Mane forward. leaves us with a handy bench in Sturridge Henderson and Wijnaldum plus whoever else. Henderson may be in instead of Emre but im liking how its all shaping up either way.


21 Jun 2017 04:11:09
Seeing as Hendo is our captain, it is likely that when he is fit, more often than not he will be in the 1st XI rather than captain the side mostly from the bench.


21 Jun 2017 05:53:12
Hendo has to be the first name on the team sheet when fit ofcourse. I will go all out and say that Henderson is the best CM/ CDM we have.


21 Jun 2017 07:02:46
Hendo
Coutinho Lallana
Mane Firmino salah

That would be my first choice, although with injuries and rotation I still see Wini and Can getting plenty of minutes.


21 Jun 2017 07:22:19
Classic that we are debating who will be left out before the season has started. And by the first international break we would have had our first flood of injuries and then we will be talking about which Academy players to give a chance to haha. We are developing great depth squad, that is good.


21 Jun 2017 07:49:36
With the way our injuries pan out and the amount of games we'll play, nobody will miss out for long.


21 Jun 2017 08:33:35
JK likes to tinker with his formations, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a double pivote with two from Hendo, Can and Gini. Smart runs into the box and at least one good passer on the pitch.

Couts and Lallana competing for the spot as AM.


21 Jun 2017 09:09:29
I think everyone, even Couts, will miss out on a semi-regular basis as players are kept fresh for our charge to win 3 cups and the league.


21 Jun 2017 09:50:20
Last season Klopp had a first choice 11 who played every league game unless they were injured. The question is whether that was forced on him by circumstance or by choice. Going into the season I'd place good money on Hendo, Couts and Lallana starting. Hendo is our best player in the deeper role, couts is our best player and Lallana is the living embodiment of how Klopp likes to play football.

I see the others getting a lot of game time due to the number of games we have but they will be rotation players.


21 Jun 2017 11:42:15
We need to get away from this idea of a first 11. One quality player coming in doesn't mean another has to miss out or leave. Football is a squad game, it's not about a first 11, it's about having 18-19 quality players to pick from. The 11 that start the match will depend on numerous factors, such as the opposition, whether we are home or away, how many games we've played that week.
Hopefully we will do well in the cups and Europe this season meaning we could play 50-60 games, we will see rotation a lot it's how the modern game is.
the great thing for us going forward is that we are now adding quality depth rather than merely numerical depth. One game we could have Hendo, Couts and Wiji in midfield, the next due to a different type of opposition could be Hendo, Can and Wiji. Similarly up front we have Salah, Mane, Firmino, Origi, Sturridge, and Solanke fighting for 3 places.


21 Jun 2017 11:42:16
Surely whoever deserves to be in the team will be in the team. If Wijnaldum is in better form than Can, he plays and vice versa. No one should be safe and everyone must perform to deserve a place in the starting line-up.


21 Jun 2017 12:27:01
Popa and two cents, most would agree with you but last season Klopp had a defined first 11 who played if they were fit (the exceptions being when karatsw was dropped for Migs and when Wiji came back in for Can) .

Klopp may well have to change this approach next season but I imagine he'll have a first 11 who he'll play as often as he can.


20 Jun 2017 17:22:10
Any chance of one of your lovely big transfer updates eds?

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - I am travelling throughout June so it won,t be for a while.}

20 Jun 2017 20:38:41
Where u off to ed002?
Harry is planning a new stalking trip.


20 Jun 2017 14:54:53
Ed's, reading between the lines, but assuming the Salah deal goes through, does this mean there is little chance of a transfer ban? I believe one of the eds said they wanted to wait till things had been decided.

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{Ed002's Note - It is entirely unrelated at this time.}

20 Jun 2017 19:50:21
Hi All,

If Salah signs and if it's the highest record signing for Liverpool,
what are the odds that we will beat that and get another high profile signing this Window?

Cheers.

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20 Jun 2017 19:58:02
Ed002 is the best man for giving odds.


20 Jun 2017 20:51:49
RTFP's :-)


20 Jun 2017 21:03:58
I have a feeling we will get someone else too. Maybe that Keita (spelling) . I hope it's going to be defensive signings but we seem to like stockpiling midfielders.


20 Jun 2017 22:50:35
VVD deal ain't dead.


21 Jun 2017 07:03:53
I still see VVD as a possibility and that will be over the salah fee.


20 Jun 2017 19:50:03
Where is sakho likely to end up next season. Got to be plenty I interested with the performances he showed at palace.

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20 Jun 2017 20:29:26
Roma are interested but I don't see them paying £30 mil as long as Monchi is in charge.


20 Jun 2017 21:23:37
If so wouldn't it have been useful as a bargaining chip in Salah deal? Not saying exactly how but could have been angle somewhere.


21 Jun 2017 02:57:28
We need to lower Sakho's asking price. Bring it down to 25 million and maybe someone will bite. If not, then make it 20 million plus add ons and im sure Palace will jump at the chance to sign him. Better to get something than nothing for a player Klopp wants nothing to do with.


20 Jun 2017 19:04:41
So City may have cooled their interest in going after Bertrand. Would in my humble opinion be a much more intelligent signing than spending the ridiculous money Southampton will be holding us ransom for VVD.

We can go sign two out of this world fullbacks compared to what we will have to pay after the tapping up of VVD and significantly improve our attack and defence during matches.

Fingers crossed!

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20 Jun 2017 19:38:10
Bertrand would be the ideal LB for us. We should have followed through our interest when he was at Chelsea. Maybe a deal can be set for for both Vvd and Bertrand?

Baz.


20 Jun 2017 20:36:35
Saints would love us.


21 Jun 2017 02:58:36
If not Mendy, then Bertrand is the best option available. Whether Saints to business with us is a big concern though. 20 million for Bertrand who has 3-4 peak seasons left in him represents good business for us.


20 Jun 2017 17:59:12
16 years ago to this day, we signed John Arne Riise. What would we do to have a player like him now.

A decent left back that can pile drive a shot when needed.

Ooh, ah! I wanna knooowwww, how you scored that goal.

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20 Jun 2017 19:03:34
Always remember him pinging a 30 yarder which hit the bar kop end. I swear the bar shook for the rest of the game! Absolute beast of a shot.


20 Jun 2017 17:34:01
Who is next after Salah?

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20 Jun 2017 19:29:00
Can's new contract?


20 Jun 2017 21:12:02
a left back .


20 Jun 2017 21:16:56
Any player or coaching staff to a fan.


20 Jun 2017 21:25:02
Complete left field signing for me.


20 Jun 2017 17:31:56
Eds. With the likely arrival of Salah, can I ask your thoughts please on were he plays? Mane being the RW do you see him on the LW with Coutinho central? I can't see Salah coming to be back up to Mane? Unless we are still after a LW and Salah will be rotated accross the front places depending on the game it self. I can only think Klopp sees him as a LW else we have not really addressed our wing issue. Thoughts please?

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{Ed001's Note - why don't people read through? This has been discussed and discussed repeatedly every single day.}

20 Jun 2017 18:25:28
Sorry ed. Fair enough I will have another look.


20 Jun 2017 18:48:12
Salah is left footed. We will likely see Mane play down the left and Salah down the right. Inverted wingers cutting in and hopefully two adept fullbacks for next season, one with a proper left peg and another with a right. Klopp said end of the season that he sees Coutinho dropping into midfield. We will be causing havoc all over the show for opposition defences.

That is pretty much all we we need to take it to the next level :-)

Problem is that Clyne is looking likely to run up and down the pitch next season again with little to no outcome.


20 Jun 2017 18:58:18
Cheers Max. Appreciate the info mate. I see what your saying. Sounds like the best option.


20 Jun 2017 21:13:56
forwards will inter change .


20 Jun 2017 21:31:06
I think it could be at beginning of season



Sturridge
Salah. Mane.

Firmino.
Coutinho. Can.


Henderson.


21 Jun 2017 00:46:32
I suspect more likely we end up with

Salah - Firmino - Mane
Coutinho - Gini
Hendo

If Coutinho drops to midfield I suspect Gini would be preferred over Lallana for the extra control he can offer

Very likely the wings could also swap if we're looking for them to cut inside rather than get in behind - personally though I'd start Salah on the left as Coutinho is very effective at cutting inside already, so a pacy left footed winger would be a perfect foil for him to create width (particularly against the more defensive setups)

As far as I'm concerned this is an awesome, PL winning quality team if everyone stays fit, and it also gives us lots of options to tweak depending on the opposition. We could easily swap the wingers, switch in Can for Hendo, put Llalana in for Gini, Sturridge in for Firmino or even play Coutinho forward again to give Salah time to settle. all of these would see little or no change in quality of the side but rather just allow us to play slightly different ways. We haven't seen that in years.

Hopefully we just strengthen the defence now.


20 Jun 2017 17:22:54
* would be better spent on a left back and centre half. We have enough strikers or played that can play through the middle. Wouldn't mind signing another winger to provide back up should the worst happen 😬.

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20 Jun 2017 17:45:15
One of Ojo, Wilson and Kent should be given the opportunity to cover if they aren't going out on loan.

I agree with your post though (the one below this) we have more pressing concerns Auba, Paul Joyce also reported that Klopp and Auba didn't have a great working relationship in Dortmund.


20 Jun 2017 17:19:33
I agree that a player like aubameyang would improve teams, but with the way we play I think we would become predictable. The issue we had last season was the ability to break down teams who sat deep, I don't think adding someone who's main asset is the ability to use their pace in behind is the answer. Firmino's ability to drop deep and link play with our two flying wingers (salah/ mane) will make us an absolute nightmare for defences next season, all being supplied by the little magician. The money it would cost for the likes of aubameyang.

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20 Jun 2017 20:01:55
Aubameyang or someone like is exactly what we needed against them teams.

We passed the ball around in front of the opposition defence without trying to get in behind, we made it too easy for them.


23 Jun 2017 01:02:56
A bit of a belated reply I know but have only just started posting. What you have said is completely contradicted, how would you expect us to run in behind if a team are sitting deep? Aubameyang is most effective on the break, if you're playing the likes of west brom they are organised enough to leave no space in behind and our possession will be in front of them. We now have pace on both flanks but with firmino and coutinho to link up play, teams won't be able to sit as deep. We are different animal now and a lot less predictable add an overlapping left back and !


20 Jun 2017 17:11:45
Evening gents. It's been a while since we had some news on the legend that is VVD. I was just wondering how good is it to apply a transfer requirement, if there is no buy out clause in the players contract. Wont the selling club just place a ridiculus price to keep, or punish the player and buying club for the miscunduct? In almost every case I can recall, where a player put in a transfer request, he had a clause the buying club just had to meet to get him. Do Virgil have a such?

Kind regards.

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20 Jun 2017 15:05:57
Widely reported £39m deal agreed for Egyptian Messi.

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20 Jun 2017 15:47:27
Can we please refrain from calling Salah the "Egyptian Messi"? It simply makes u as dumb as the idiots who coin such rubbish in the first place.


20 Jun 2017 15:49:29
Who did a turd in your kettle?


20 Jun 2017 16:18:48
Someone's tired!


20 Jun 2017 16:33:28
Lfcfan i like that. i would of gone with "who took a rubbish in your handbag" but i do like your version!


20 Jun 2017 16:56:13
Like having a Ferrari on each wing now with the Egyptian Messi and the Senegalese Ronaldo in our team 😉😂 we're going to be frightening on the break.


20 Jun 2017 17:03:16
Chill out guys. Had a difficult day, let's not talk about kettles or turds today. Just happy Salah is over the line now.


20 Jun 2017 14:53:38
Ed's, I know this.

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20 Jun 2017 15:28:57
I know that.


20 Jun 2017 16:52:38
I know nothing. It was him, yes him above, it was him I tell you. I'm an innocent Man. I was framed. He had one arm.


20 Jun 2017 18:16:11
A big boy done it and ran away.


20 Jun 2017 19:13:34
#KloppOut.


20 Jun 2017 14:10:09
If we keep studge I hope he stays fit because I really believe he can be prolific this season.

With salah looking likely and mane there to be the ones to sprint in behind studge doesn't have to rely on his speed anymore.

His pace has been gone now for a while and if he gets in the box just behind them he can be deadly.

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20 Jun 2017 15:15:48
A front 3 of Salah, sturidge and Mane will be almost unstoppable on the counter.


20 Jun 2017 16:36:09
Everyone knows xhaka is the best player in the league when your teams on the break.

Anyway, my mother always said that Granit is good on the counter.


{Ed025's Note - good stuff jolly..

20 Jun 2017 13:57:30
I keep seeing chilwells name pooping up recently. Is this people with reliable info or are people just guessing at that because they don't think that we will fork out the money for mendy and he was a primary target last year?

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20 Jun 2017 14:10:19
They are running out of names I guess. We moved on from the player last summer.


20 Jun 2017 14:59:53
If his name is popping up, where on earth are you looking?!? 💩.


20 Jun 2017 18:22:37
You wanna see a doctor about that jack, sounds like you have the alphabet runs.


20 Jun 2017 13:39:00
Until July 1 it's pointless speculating on players names.

What we can talk about is the attributes that we should be buying. I get age is important but for me the main things that are missing from Liverpool are a few players with real hunger, real passion and desire, with leadership. It can't be that hard to go out and find three players, forward, midfield and defender that basically want to out and out success. I know the money earn't now is so grotesquely high, the hunger is not there. It's basically a well paid job with your mates. But i prefer character as opposed to a Marquee signing. VVD would have had that, Sanchez has it at Arsenal, Kante has it. It is hard to find, i struggled to think of many. Liverpool currently have some good characters but no real 'winners". Henderson, perhaps Lovren? what do EDS think?

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20 Jun 2017 14:11:33
Quality!
Rest all secondary. Hunger and attitude might give you tons of possession against bus parking teams. Quality unlock the bus!


20 Jun 2017 14:31:14
We struggle for leaders. Once Henderson is out of the team we struggle. The quality is there but there is NO leader. I'm not sure vvd would have been the answer. But I do feel that some of The players we have need to step up. Players like lovern and Milner migs and lallana who all have experience should be doing more. I'm also expecting more from Gini and matip after their first seasons.


20 Jun 2017 14:36:49
Why would VVD have it - totally agree about Sanchez, he is different gravy, but not sure I would say VVD is that kind of person.


20 Jun 2017 14:41:02
Haircut. Must have fantastic hair. Oh and tattoos lots of them.

Seriously though. I'd like them to have desire to play for Liverpool. Don't have to have supported them since birth, just not a want or dream to play for Barcelona or Madrid or prefer to live in London etc and we're basically a stepping stone.

Things like quality and skill etc should be a given at the level we are buying at. They should be what is expected at in their positions, a defender who can defend or a winger with pace that can cross etc.


20 Jun 2017 15:00:33
just unlocking the bus won't do the trick, you also need a driver to drive it away. I say get a bus driver first.


20 Jun 2017 15:13:05
The majority of players already have the desire to win or they wouldn't have made it as a professional sportsman. Too many players also have the desire to own a Merc and become a household name on Instafacetwit. Some of the best players are the ones who have the desire to keep improving themselves, who stay behind at practice to work on free kicks or take psychology classes to gain a competitive edge.
I am not a big fan of the third best player in the world, Ronaldo, but there is no doubt that his dedication and desire to improve every facet of his game has taken him close to the top of the tree.


20 Jun 2017 19:19:53
Oohh Voronin. I'm stealing instafacetwit from you 😎👍.


20 Jun 2017 23:35:19
Third best. naaaaaaaa. Egotistical and a pretty boy but certainly the best player since Zidane. Pogba and Ronaldo together would be expected to win the title every season. sorry to say that but it's a 300 million plus midfield if that came to fruition liverpool fan or no you have to respect Uniteds spending power.


Watford Season Review

20 Jun 2017 13:25:30
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Watford Season Review

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20 Jun 2017 14:28:12
Take it to Watford page please Eds.


20 Jun 2017 13:08:47
I see that the Grumpy One is now being investigated for tax fraud by the Spanish authorities.

Who isn't?

Ed001. You've spent time in Spain should we be worried on your behalf?

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{Ed001's Note - no mate, I don't earn enough for that to be an issue!}

20 Jun 2017 13:15:05
He's lucky he does not live in the States. Tax evasion is a serious felony here, something that got the great Al Capone put away for donkey years.


{Ed025's Note - tax evasion is serious in every country brussels, and i dont know why you think capone was great?, he was a bully, thug and murderer mate..

20 Jun 2017 14:34:02
He was responsible for the death of my grandfather and you call him great? Wow.


20 Jun 2017 14:37:02
Sorry misread it thought you said Al Pacino.


20 Jun 2017 14:54:57
Yes his appearance in jack and Jill was enough to give my grandpoppins, pacino's biggest fan, a heart attack.


20 Jun 2017 13:07:57
I know this is off subject. But I need your help. I am returning to the UK for my first cold Christmas in 17 years. I have been back in the summer but have only just convinced the missus to show the kids a winter Christmas. Desperately want to see a Liverpool game, boxing day vs Swansea only fixture we can make. How do i get 4 tickets without paying almost a thousand pound for a package. It seems very difficult. Can anyone suggest anything other than Thomas Cook. Much Appreciated.

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20 Jun 2017 12:38:14
I know the interest in mendy exists. I just can't help but think if we are going to spend big on a LB would we not be better throwing that crazy money at celtic for tierney?

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20 Jun 2017 12:55:04
What makes you prefer Tierney?
I like the look of both players to be honest but Mendy is a big unit.


20 Jun 2017 12:55:41
Any evidence to suggest he would be a better option?


20 Jun 2017 13:07:07
Given how strong an interest we had last summer in Ben Chilwell, I'm surprised it hasn't been revived this year. I'd assume he would have improved and matured a bit after experience of a full EPL season and UCL campaign? Unless something has happened that I'm not aware of (question to Ed001 and everyone else)?


{Ed001's Note - he signed a long term contract at Leicester and is happy to develop there.}

20 Jun 2017 13:16:51
Chilwell is poorer than Moreno defensively hence, Klopp was right to not sign him esp. for the amount (10m) they were asking for.


20 Jun 2017 13:19:58
Thanks Ed001.


20 Jun 2017 13:20:50
Agree with the OP. Tierney can defend and attack. Mendy is basically an auxiliary winger!


20 Jun 2017 14:03:33
Tierney would be a good addition for anyone looking for a LB with tons of potential but also good enough to do a job at the moment. His value is only going to keep rising once he does move to a higher league (similiar to Wanyama/ VVD etc) . Has international experience, champs league, 1st team etc so for me represents a better transfer target than recent youngsters of Chilwell etc. Personally think he will not move this season but if possible to do a deal it would be far better value as his wages would be nowhere near Mendy's or the transfer fee and would be an improvement on the position for us.


20 Jun 2017 12:27:08
Hi Eds, have we shown any interest in Salah of Roma (former Chelsea fame) at all?

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20 Jun 2017 12:58:01
You been sleeping under a rock?!


20 Jun 2017 12:58:14
Do you live under a rock?


20 Jun 2017 12:59:59
Ask yer Da.


20 Jun 2017 13:02:51
Yer Da sells Avon.


20 Jun 2017 13:17:28
This was most definitely a joke post poking fun at people who ask silly questions without reading all the time.


20 Jun 2017 13:17:41
That must have been sarcasm at its worst.


20 Jun 2017 12:14:56
Hey Eds and Reds, hope you are all well!

Right, I've noticed on here over the last few days that there has been a bit of a debate on whether or not Liverpool do actually need a new striker or not and id like to just throw my opinion out there to see if people agree or not.
Firstly I do understand that defence is a priority as it is our weak point and that we did score a lot of goals throughout the team last season we ended up scoring around 78 goals which was I think the 4th highest amount in the league which is good.
But in terms of our actual strikers Sturridge only managed 3 goals origi got 7 and Firmnho got 11 (obviously he was in and out of that striker role and I actually prefer him a little deeper so he can see more of the ball) so for me I don't see anything wrong atall with getting a striker who can bag you 20+ goals as it would greatly benefit the team especially with ings going on loan more than likely, sturridge not being too reliable, Origi needing abit more coaching and solanke probably one for the future all of that mixed with us involved in the champions league part of me just thinks we do need it add to that area that's not to say oh I think we should go splash 100 million on mbappe (I wish) but the team can greatly benefit from adding a striker for example. Does anyone remember the poor run of form we had in January? I don't even know why I'm asking of course we all do it nearlly cost us the champions league and of course ruined our league chances. mane was away, most of our strikers were injured and we just missed that clinical finishing infront of goal we were dying out for a quality goal scorer there and then and towards the end of the season in my opinion it would of helped also.
Sorry I've gone on for so long but just to conclude what I'm saying I genuinely think a good reliable striker would do us the world of good next season and yes maybe it'll take a departure or two of our current strikers to get one but we wouldn't half benefit from it especially as I say with champions league on there horizon. I see nothing wrong with adding a 20+ goals to that tally we achived last year maybe that'll be the difference next season. Or could of been the difference the season just gone.
Anyway guys hope you all have a great day roll on the next season!

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20 Jun 2017 13:24:58
Spot on mate, a lot of people on Here get a bit excited! A TOP striker in a addition to defensive reinforcements will bring us to a new level, which we need as other teams won't stand still 👍 Goals win games, especially tights ones and with a possibility of 55 games to play we need options and depth to the squad.


20 Jun 2017 13:28:34
Nothing wrong with adding a 20+ goal striker, just not a priority while the rest of the team are scoring frequently.
Defence is where we need to improve right now.


20 Jun 2017 13:31:35
You have to consider the impact of changing the way we play to accommodate a traditional striker. Instead of playing of the shoulder of the last defender Bobby drops into midfield allowing our other forwards to overlap him, it's a key part of how Klopp sets the team up. Put a traditional striker in there and the plan has to change. That striker may well score more than Bobby but the other forwards would likely score less. It's a balancing act and you never know for sure how such a change will effect performance.


20 Jun 2017 13:51:59
It's well written and reasoned dilldog but I also think part of the problem last year was Firmino having to move wide because we had no wingers (when Mane left for Afcon and Coutinho got injured) . and then on top of that Sturridge wasn't fit, so we were basically left with Origi and no sub.

If we hopefully get Salah, then things change quite a bit because Coutinho, Salah and Mane can take the wide positions and Firmino can play exclusively through the middle, and then on top hopefully Sturridge can stay fit and that's two high quality strikers to rotate with Origi as a backup.

The priority for me is therefore to get in Salah and then focus on fixing the defence. Then, and only then, if someone comes along that's clearly better than both Firmino and Sturridge (tough but maybe aubemeyang for example) to try go for that person than can take the team to another level.


20 Jun 2017 14:00:16
Redroon totally agree mate I think it would be great Vital as you say in tight games and with a number of games to play last season it could defently be the difference.
And yeah VLF I agree defence is our priority be a top striker aswell would take us to another level I just don't think it should be overshadowed in a sense.


20 Jun 2017 14:09:30
Yeah Putney I see what you mean the team has a certain chemistry and a new striker may change that but surly there must be a striker out there who can fit into klopps system and also bag bundles of goals, it just makes me think how perfect someone like Suarez would be in this team now because he's the type you describe plays on the shoulder of the defender and works hard for the team pressing. Hopefully there's someone out there who may fit our style anyway
Cheers zimbo yeah I see what you mean Firminho did do that a lot, plus the fact he was the only person we had to rely on and the whole drunk driving thing didn't exactly help his cause I expect him to improve even more next season goalscoring wise. And yes I also agree to that if someone is out there who is clearly an improvement that's something we should go for.


20 Jun 2017 14:58:13
Spot on Putney red. Most 20 plus goal a year strikers are the focal point of attack and that's not how we play currently. We can't pay the going rate for a quality striker for a plan b way of playing. There is only one striker I can think of who would work in our system and bring the goals but we won't be going there again IMO.


20 Jun 2017 06:36:13
Hey Eds what is the status on any transfer dealings. Can you shed light on any preliminary deals, early negotiations, and any bids being made? Figured it would be easier to ask to be informed instead of throwing random names out there.

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20 Jun 2017 09:37:12
Christ almighty. I don't normally post, but I logged in especially to express my disappointment and incredulity at this OP. Do you not read this page at all?


20 Jun 2017 11:14:14
I know, he didn't ask the eds for any time scales either! 🙄.


20 Jun 2017 11:44:26
No, Harry, no deals this window. Same squad next year :)


20 Jun 2017 08:03:23
For me the best news in this transfer window would be countinho is staying.

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20 Jun 2017 10:00:37
Agreed!


20 Jun 2017 04:43:56
Morning all, apparently salah is going to wear the famous number 9.

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20 Jun 2017 06:59:13
With the way this saga has dragged out, I doubt anybody cares what number Salah wears. Just get the frigging player to Anfield now so the fans can be relieved of this deal and move on to some decent defenders.


20 Jun 2017 10:33:34
If he does join, he'll probs take number 22 from Mignolet.


20 Jun 2017 20:29:13
Just like I said early hours this morning, the echo is now reporting salah to favour number 9 shirt 👍🏻.


20 Jun 2017 01:51:24
Hi Eds.

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{Ed002's Note - You need to take this to th European pages. This is the Liverpool page.}

20 Jun 2017 02:33:46
Sorry Ed
I thought it being about Klopp would give it relevance on these pages az it appeared to be a roller derby coaster ride .
I was wondering if it could happen again?


{Ed002's Note - These things can always happen.}

20 Jun 2017 01:49:10
Morning all, If the talk around Liverpool is to be believed salah is expected on English soil early today. I don't like posting the usual hearsay but a few people I respect believe it to be true aswell.

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