Liverpool Banter Archive October 20 2015

20 Oct 2015 21:14:15
What's people's view of yarmelenko tonight ? Can play on either flank so would be a great addition but can't see the kitty stretching that far with Rubén neves coming in ?

20 Oct 2015 21:43:54
What makes you think Ruben Neves is coming in?

20 Oct 2015 21:58:44
This comes from a jounalist from Manchester seem pretty sure.

20 Oct 2015 22:16:42
Very unlikely unless we're selling a few.

21 Oct 2015 03:16:52
He would cost us money. Lazar Markovic would have done a better job than any other wingers at the club.
Shame we sent him out on loan.

21 Oct 2015 07:43:55
Says the guy used to say that markvic wasn't a winger 😂.

21 Oct 2015 08:03:20
Reet

Lazar Markovic biggest weapon is his incredible pace and intelligent on the ball which he showed at fenerbache couple of weeks ago.

A good manager could play him in multiple position. Out wide like Neymar or through the middle like Sterling.

You could play him like Nicolas Gaitan, Konoplayanka or Raheem Sterling. And for the love of god all of them are different players comes under the same category WINGERS.

Similar to people call Milner and Modric Central Midfielders.
I hope you are clear now Reet.

{Ed001's Note - Modric is a central midfielder, you talk some crap fair play! It was you that argued that Markovic was not a winger, now you are trying to fudge it and making yourself look stupid.}

21 Oct 2015 09:58:37
Wells said Ed001.

21 Oct 2015 10:25:05
And what you call Sterling ed01? Broke through playing at flanks. Had a fantastic season at Liverpool playing at the tip through the middle.

Gerrard played every position out there and one of his best season came behind Torres in a typical CAM.

Like you, I don't care what he is called in Google or wikki.
He could play on the flanks, but much better suited if played through the middle especially in a counter attacking set up.

Not an out and out winger like downing for sure which I still believe.

Pedro plays on the right hand side of front three, Is he a winger?

{Ed001's Note - what are you gibbering on about? Sterling was awful through the middle. Pedro is an average, at best, winger. You just rabbit on making no sense, now you are saying Markovic isn't a winger.}

21 Oct 2015 11:00:02
We should have gone for Kovacic

😉.

21 Oct 2015 11:02:46
Markovic could play either side in a 4-3-3 or at the tip in a diamond. Sterling was excellent the season before playing through the middle.
Anyone who plays on the flanks are generally categorized as wingers, Need not be an out and out direct winger.
Walcott played on the flanks, Certainly not a winger.
Sturridge played on the flanks for Chelsea in the past. Grizemann too plays there.

Much depends on what the manager wants from the player.

You could always play on the flanks and cut inside.

21 Oct 2015 11:14:59
Ron

Going into the season, People here will slowly realize what a big miss it was.

21 Oct 2015 21:12:47
Not me. He should never have been bought just like several other players signed under BR whose names I won`t mention.

20 Oct 2015 18:50:39
Djibril cisse has retired from football, thanks for the memories especially on that one beautiful night in Istanbul. YNWA.

20 Oct 2015 21:47:07
A real character. Didn't Rafa say Cisse did not understand the offside rule. haha. A big softie. YNWA.

20 Oct 2015 22:26:12
@ aklfc - Not sure if he actually said that, but tbf he would've been right. Cisse scored 19 goals in 05/06, but between lazy offsides and blasting his shots at the goalkeeper in 1v1s, he probably could have had 30.

That being said, two of his non-blasted shots were on important days. His placed penalty in the CL final and his overlooked but still quite tidy goal in the FA Cup final.

20 Oct 2015 23:44:03
Hasn't he just been arrested for blackmail?

{Ed001's Note - he was released without charge.}

21 Oct 2015 08:50:31
I met most of the players just before they got on the victory parade bus after Istanbul. A lot of the players just walked past when I was asking for autographs. Cisse was one of the only players that stopped and had a chat!
Legend!

21 Oct 2015 10:15:36
His behaviour sometimes let him down but I wish some at the club now had some of his passion and desire.

20 Oct 2015 17:48:03
I see the Express are reporting Reus today. You got to laugh. I wouldn't believe the date on the Rag. !

20 Oct 2015 19:06:48
It will 100% happen!

20 Oct 2015 22:08:13
Just a question and not a suggestion.
Would u guys sacrifice Coutinho to sign Reus?

20 Oct 2015 22:18:26
All day long barnsy.

20 Oct 2015 13:50:43
One thing that is really annoying at the moment constant injuries we seem to get from international breaks. Is the training regime that hard at these camps that it constantly breaks players or are the coaches not good enough to know enough about the players they do coach. Just seems that we can bank on at least half our players coming back used abused by national coaches.

20 Oct 2015 14:10:24
Perhaps the question you should be asking is how come players from other teams don't come back used and abused from international duty.

20 Oct 2015 14:25:24
Well they do 'Red since 64'. Often. Especially Arsenal and Spurs. However, our most damaging injury which was Ings happened when he was back training with us, and the injury to Gomez happened after a challenge in the game - not an awful one but one that apparently just caught him wrong. I can't think of any injuries except Sturridge's first injury last season (which he returned from in Feb, only to suffer the same fate training with us) recently that could potentially be much to do with international duties training methods etc - we've done pretty well in that regard with no key players reporting back with anything serious.

20 Oct 2015 14:57:01
You mean like the Ox, Walcott, and Jack Wilshere in the past.

Or maybe City wouldn't like Aguero, Kolorov and Silva fit. After the most recent break

Newcastle just lost their 1st choice keeper.

These injuries happen to a lot of teams during international breaks, but our fans don't really care for other teams physio room woes.

20 Oct 2015 17:19:21
It's happened to just as many players as liverpool ones. This week aguero kompany and silva all picked up knocks from city's squad.

20 Oct 2015 12:29:01
The article in the Daily Fail is interesting, kinda states what the eds had been saying about Bodgers, a complete fraud.
Yes I still don't like Ward and yes I still think Sterling was wrong but it backs up lot about Bodgers being a fraud.

Shame FSG didn't check this site out, the Eds are NEVER wrong, Would of saved LFC a whole load of negative press, a probably have Sterling still.

20 Oct 2015 13:40:52
The Eds are sometimes wrong and I am sure they are happy to admit this! Much of footy is opinion and they have a better education in football matters than me and many times will often be right, but we all make mistakes. for example I remember one ed saying Mignolet was a better keeper than Begovic and I do not think that was spot on at all! Do you

that said thanks for all their hard work.

{Ed001's Note - that certainly wasn't me!}

20 Oct 2015 14:26:33
In fairness Begovic has barely had a good good for about 18 months now!

20 Oct 2015 09:32:07
Hai Eds, Banter please

James Milner is a class act : Brendan Rodgers

James Milner is a complete footballer : Jurgen Klopp.

Here we go boys.

Who is going to bash Klopp first?

Lols.

20 Oct 2015 10:05:12
Come on man, no coaches have bashed milner, it could be due to his discipline, it could be due to his hardwork.

Whats wrong here, he is a complete footballer but not the best in what he do.

20 Oct 2015 10:15:31
They are very different statements.

20 Oct 2015 10:19:32
so klopp should have said qoute ""milner is trash and i don't know how he is at liverpool earning big wages . the club is run by morons i tell you, i now since i don't have any other player to play in midfield or flank or striker for that matter i have to keep him motivated u know, i don't give two cents about him though. Add to it he was club captain also when i came . what travesty that is . who made him captain? Wow i thought there would be no problems here but boy was i surprised. Damn now i think i should have taken the sunderland job instead. duh oh well i kinda am stuck with milner so here it goes - my obvious comment to make him feel good and uplifted- mind you its absolutely untrue and i can't stop laughing inside -----James Milner is a complete footballer " haha ha haa there i did it.

20 Oct 2015 10:22:50
Well there is no doubt Milner was very good for Man City, but tlhis performances for us were poor. I did not catch the Spurs game as I was working sadly so I don't know how he did there. The point is however, almost all players BR signed were good before they started playing for him. If Klopp believes Milner is a "complete player" then hopefully he can get the best out of him and we will have a terrific proven talent.

20 Oct 2015 10:26:12
Klopp is not the type of person to bash his own players, unlike most of the liverpool fans on here.

20 Oct 2015 09:58:25
A little bit edited an not what Klopp was referring to.

20 Oct 2015 10:27:57
what should he say then? Milner is of no use to me?

he needs to motivate the players. he inspires, something brendan should learn.

20 Oct 2015 10:36:51
So Harry is back then?

How unbelievable!

20 Oct 2015 10:53:46
Well obviously klopp is just as clueless Get rid now I say.

Why have you come here just to spread negativity again?
I'm not sure I've read anybody slate Rodgers for saying he's a class act?
In fact before he started to play we were all saying he is a true professional with winning mentality.
whether or not we needed him was the debate.

20 Oct 2015 11:30:15
Stop trying to twist other people's words to fulfil your agendas Harry. More stupid stuff.

20 Oct 2015 11:55:26
thing is we haven't seen the best of Milner on the pitch dosen't mean that Klopp or Rodgers for that matter has seen other things off the pitch.

20 Oct 2015 12:26:10
Klopps also not going to criticise the players you know. Klopp knows himself who he wants longterm. And Klopps opinion is far more important than ours and also more likely correct. Whoever he backs I trust in him.

20 Oct 2015 13:08:26
You have to take the whole statement in context Klopp was pointing out he had a squad of players who could play but they can still give more. You never mentioned the fact he said coutinho will play better and lallana will give 20/30% more . As for Milner he is a managers dream very professional and has great attributes however the issue in the summer was did BR signing Milner address the obvious issues we had in our team and you can say no however when he goes on the pitch he gives 100%.

It is unfortunately the new way fans react quickly put down our players and Managers but the last 18 months we have been in free fall no identity, no direction and very few leaders on and off the pitch. BR was a brave choice by fsg he said all the right things but he failed to learn and grow, it's easy to take plaudits when all is good but the test is when all is not well how do you react look at jose mourinho. I supported BR through most of it but come on he lost the plot towards the end .

Personally I will give a clean slate to all the players including Allen who gets such unfair treatment here and let's see what they can do. However don't worry as soon as klopp gets its wrong we will see more posts like yours however I am willing to bet he won't be blaming his friends and players .

20 Oct 2015 17:28:05
Eds, is it possible to hardware i'd ban this moron? Every week he makes a new account to troll with.

20 Oct 2015 18:27:43
Hsf

Rather than mocking or insulting another poster. You should have an opinion on the post.
1. About the player
2. About that line
3. How relevant it is with the previous manager.

You need not worry about my user name mate. at least I stick to my opinion throughout unlike other who are faster than ussain bolt in changing their tone.

{Ed001's Note - just give it up Harry. Move on.}

20 Oct 2015 18:50:03
You are always right harry. Geez you're worse than jmb/maze. Everybody jumped on you because you were trying to twist someone's words.

20 Oct 2015 19:00:19
"Class act" could refer to lots of different things, usually about character.
English is not Klopp's first language although it is excellent. He is often asking for help with vocab. "Complete footballer" is a vague term, it could be an expression which means he is very versatile and can play many positions.

No point in bashing Klopp, he's just in the door and still getting to know his player's strengths and weaknesses.

20 Oct 2015 19:22:43
Someone give Harry the biggest flake award please.

A pointless thread by a poster who specializes in it.