Liverpool Banter Archive February 21 2015

 

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21 Feb 2015 21:35:16
Well my home town team has just done us a massive favour by beating the Mancs.so come on the reds and get a result at Southampton tomorrow or it would have all been in vain and all my mates are going to take the raisins out of me

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22 Feb 2015 15:00:06
Vangaal said they play long passes not long balls lol.

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21 Feb 2015 20:58:32
First of all I couldn't careless about what happened the other night, we won the game end of.

Secondly well done to teixera for getting a double today

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21 Feb 2015 20:36:52
Is it right Parma are about to go bankrupt and as a result over 100 players at various levels will become free agents? Could this be why Brendan was in Italy?

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{Ed002's Note - Another 100 players, sure.

But Parma are in a dire position.}

21 Feb 2015 21:04:22
The chance of 100 more midfielders and defenders would attract Brendan like a wasp to jam. Everyone knows we are desperately short of both and down to our last couple of dozen.

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22 Feb 2015 05:16:51
But since one of the eds told earlier that BR has been relieved of his transfer duties, it would be odd for him to go look at players

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22 Feb 2015 07:17:09
It must be 10th RB Rodgers looking at.

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21 Feb 2015 18:51:24
Lets see what happened with our fans here. Tomorrow there will be probably one of the most important match of this season for us and instead talking about the match, the discussion here is all about Ballotelli. Instead togetherness of fans I see only two antipoles and row about the penalty. This guy has enormous talent for making situation like this. Eds, do you expect problems (or do you have already any info) in our dressing room, could have this situation any impact on the players, creating groups.? Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - I am done with the subject of Balotelli for a while. I have explained the situation as I understand it to be from someone close to the player. I have no interest in tittle tattle.}

21 Feb 2015 19:37:28
I'd certainly hope that this doesn't cause much disruption to the squad. Can't see much of a group forming in marios defence either, always seems like he enjoys playing the outsider part. He's never going to play 90 minutes either by the looks of it anyway. Probably banished from the squad for another few weeks!

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21 Feb 2015 20:26:10
I don't see the problem with it all. He scored, we won. Balo is a world class penalty taker why in the hell would Hendo or Sturridge take it when he's on?

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22 Feb 2015 07:18:17
Ballo is just proving how wrong Rodgers was.

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21 Feb 2015 18:24:26
An absolute MUST WIN game tomorrow

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21 Feb 2015 19:19:06
Totally agree.Its a must 3 points.Especially now after today's results and Southamptons position in the table. Next 4 weeks will tell it all.I have a sneaky feeling we will win though.Ill go for 1-2 win

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22 Feb 2015 00:03:52
If we wanna make 4th, we have to go into EVERY game with the determination and goal to win, PERIOD!

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22 Feb 2015 05:59:46
I completely agree with redohio FULL STOP EXCLAMATION MARK And COMMA further more COMMA DOT DOT DOT well COMMA you get the gist EXCLAMATION MARK

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21 Feb 2015 17:48:51
Hi eds you have any idea when Lucas due back

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{Ed002's Note - A month or so.}

21 Feb 2015 17:12:22
Hey eds. just want to ask something.
How was roy evans as a manager?actually i had just reached infancy when his tenure ended so don't know much abt him. from what i ve read, he was not able to manage all the ego's in d team.
Nd would he be a good DoF?
I think he would be nice bcoz he is acquitted to all our successes and victories. nd he must be quite aware of how d club was run during that time.
Thanks nd keep up the good work :)

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{Ed001's Note - he had us playing the best football I have ever seen but was constantly undermined by the *censored* David Moores. Roy would find his disciplinary decisions overturned etc constantly. When he asked for a defender he was told there was no money and given Collymore instead. He was managing with both hands tied behind his back and still managed to get us playing fantastic football. He just needed a chairman who wasn't only interested in how much money he could take out of the club and being the best mate of all the players, who laughed at Moores behind his back anyway.

He is one of the best coaches football has ever had and it is a crying shame he is not involved in the club's coaching set up.}

21 Feb 2015 17:29:49
Think I've asked about Roy Evans as a coach before and Ed001 gave a glowing review of him.

I was unfortunate and didn't get to really see that Liverpool play, I'm 25, so I'm old enough to have seen them play, just wasn't into watching football, just playing at the time ^_^

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21 Feb 2015 18:01:07
Thanx for d reply ed. must have been a great man for d club.
Any chance he can be approached for dof?

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{Ed002's Note - Could we try typing in English from now on?}

21 Feb 2015 18:25:12
The goalkeeper cost Roy and Liverpool a lot of trophys including the league. Calamity James

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21 Feb 2015 19:04:06
Any chance he can return in a coaching capacity?

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{Ed002's Note - Try looking forward and not back.}

21 Feb 2015 20:44:00
James wasn't that bad of a goalie. What screwed Roy Evans - who was an excellent coach by the way, and played some of the best football we had played for a few years before him and until recently, was constant undermining by David Moores and perceptions over how a clique of young players behaved off-pitch fuelled by the mnedia. Incidentally, I served in the Army in the 1980's with his nephew - who looked just like him but had ginger hair. One funny funny guy.

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21 Feb 2015 22:44:01
The Roy Evans era is one of my favourite times as a fan. We didn't win much (coca cola cup) but what fun times. Also, what a great bloody kit we had 93/95 season. classic!

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21 Feb 2015 23:04:59
I'd be happy to give him the managers job tomorrow

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22 Feb 2015 00:05:34
Which explains why we have been also-rns in the PL for 25 years with such shambolic ownerhip and useless transfer dealings.

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21 Feb 2015 16:56:08
United have lost. Things are getting tasty.

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21 Feb 2015 16:01:57
just seen that Joey Barton sent off in the first half today, he hada bit of a spat with Carra, over Hendo, but Barton is in more trouble now .

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21 Feb 2015 17:25:27
Hull V QPR update.

32nd minute. ''RED! Guess who? It's Barton, again. Ridiculous. Furlong tackles Jelavic and Barton was going to talk to the ref. But instead of that, he gets involved with Huddlestone and punches him in his 'below the belt.''

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21 Feb 2015 19:05:29
Always said Barton is World Class but not at football!!!

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22 Feb 2015 00:06:06
At twitter, then.

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21 Feb 2015 14:48:39
Big game tomorrow against the Saints! Just wondering what people think is a good result? A draw okay for us?
Personally think we need to win this one as Southampton are a challenger for the top 4 alongside us. Despite my heart saying we'll win, my head says a draw will be the more likely result against a well set up side with an organised back line.
COYR!
DRM

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21 Feb 2015 15:58:00
It's a must not lose game, it's that simple

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21 Feb 2015 16:11:35
A win, and only a win. That goes for every game in all competitions.

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21 Feb 2015 16:50:15
Southampton r favs to win the game tomorrow with the bookies.unbelievable Geoff.

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21 Feb 2015 17:27:19
I think Southampton are starting to tire. They've got a few injuries to key players as well.

We may have a Europa League hangover, but given it was a home game, I can't see that being a problem really. Had we traveled to Turkey then ok fair enough.

I think a win is on the cards myself, I'm not going to predict a score though.

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21 Feb 2015 14:06:56
Seems like Balotelli, who I'm not a fan of by the way, is getting all the flak from this penalty incident but I have to say, if, as it appeared to me, Henderson didn't want it enough then why shouldn't he give it to someone who is saying loud and clear "I want it".
Fact is he said I want this and Henderson let him have it
No problem for me

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21 Feb 2015 14:51:59
I think we need to forget this penalty incident. A big deal is being made over it as Balotelli is at the heart of it. The same thing happened with Swansea in the Capital One Cup final a couple of years back but there was no where near as much publicity made over it (there was some). To be quite honest with you, I'm sick and tired of the whole 'shenanigans'.
Let's just leave it at that!

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21 Feb 2015 15:18:33
Chris super mario has scored 27 from 29 pens, don't think Hendo has scored too many, so for me its a no-brainer, mario every time, maybe BR should have made this much clearer to the standin captain, also there was no need at all for our captain Stevie G to stir things up on ITV, anyway DRM, your right, let's concentrate on our next game, oh who will be taking the pen should we get one ?

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21 Feb 2015 15:54:13
Maybe Henderson would score 29 out of 29? Who knows as he's never taken one for Liverpool, Sunderland, or England. Being less experienced at it doesn't automatically mean it should be Mario. I'm sure Henderson would have scored it as well and if he had we wouldn't have had the last 2 days of completely unnecessary drama.

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21 Feb 2015 16:01:03
DaRedMan, capital cup final with Swansea was a totally different.In that game a player was on a hat trick and wanted to take the penalty, but he was stopped from doing so by the player nominated by the manager.I have been a fan of Balo and want him to do well for us, but in my opinion what he did was wrong.Henderson is a young player and only just been made captain and that incident will certainly not do his confidence any good.Balo put unnecessary pressure on him

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21 Feb 2015 16:08:06
I think you all need a little bit more faith in what your Captain says.

He sees it all, he's not soft and you could tell he's had enough.

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22 Feb 2015 00:11:00
Disagree, Davey! SG is captain and NOT God or Jesus who`s word any who beieve in him MUST obey. He made a mistake by throwing Balo under the bus on national TV. He could have glossed over it and dealt with it later in the DR. A captain should know when to talk and when to shut it and he should have just given a diplomatic answer an leave it there. If he is going to stick up for Hendo over Balo (who was proven right by BR, mind you), it should be in private and not in public.

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22 Feb 2015 00:52:40
RDL that ridiculous. You have a proven penalty taker on the field in a must win game . You don't say 'let's find out who could be the best penalty taker given a chance otherwise you hay as well give mignolet a whirl. You give it to the best person to take it. If hendo wants to take pens then gerrard should let him have a go when we're 3 nil up. Gerrard won't do that because he's interested in his glory and not the long term future of the club.

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21 Feb 2015 12:37:30
Personally I don't mind BR's open comments about Mario. JM Sir Alex, Wenger and other players openly questioned players. I think Balotelli needs a stern dressing down over the situation he has previously done it before. It shows no respect to the captain or the team. he did his usual antic of acting like a child.I'll be so glad when he's finally left the club, I don't think he's good for the dressing room at all.

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21 Feb 2015 20:25:44
I think you're being extremely harsh on him.

Just because the media want to blame everything but the weather on Balotelli, doesn't mean we should.

I'm not sure why this is still even being dicussed on here. In my eyes it was a non-issue to begin with and now it's just darn boring!

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22 Feb 2015 00:27:18
Agreed! Balo cannot please anyone and can do nothing right because the media will never leave him alone which to sensible fans of LFC and of other clubs, are starting to sound desperate and deluded. Fans of other clubs are even starting to defend him because they now see that the media hacks and deluded pundits(Redknapp for one) are out to get hi because they need a scapegoat to blame because LS is gone hence, they need another guy to beat up on. He is not the sharpest tool in the box and based on his history, these media trolls and pudits should take the rest of their professional lives of because Balo is a VERY mentally tough human being and they will NEVER break him. As a fellow man of color, I have nothing but RESPECT for his ability to remain somewhat calm off the pitch (not getting in trouble w/ the law or arrested by the police) despite the incessant abuse he has gotten (and still gets) in an instutionally racist country as Italy who call him every name in the book just because he has chosen Italy as his home. I would not blame him for not caring because I wouldn`t either. But he keeps living his life and might not be a role model BUT is a good guy to be around per the players who have been around him. I`m glad about the support he is recieving from LFC fans and those from other clubs who are starting to see what many of us have been seeing. I will support him for these reasons alone and if he keeps improving, I will defend him even more.

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21 Feb 2015 12:27:49
prob adding more fuel to the fire with the balotelli pen situation but in my opinion any discussion about it from the club or it representitives should be kept within the confinds of the changing room. i apreciate gerrard was working as a media rep at the time and was as such expressing his opinion ect but i fee he has only increased the tension around the situation.

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{Ed002's Note - Balotelli did the damage; Gerrard was put on the spot about it. I can tell you that the club are very seriously miffed at the disruption he has caused - again.}

21 Feb 2015 13:12:18
Balottelli was pretty much nailed on scoring the penalty, which he did, last time Sturridge had a chance from the spot - no pressure on him, he missed. Who knows what Henderson would have done. Fact is if Rodgers had anything about him at all, he would have said, if Balotelli is on the park, he takes it, if not then his nominated player, Henderson presumably would have taken it.

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{Ed002's Note - But as we know that wasn't the situation.}

21 Feb 2015 13:25:20
i don't for one minute agree with or support balotelli's actions in the slightest, as you pointed out its yet another incident in which he has caused disruption to the team and brought the media spotlight on the club for all the wrong reasons, i just believe that any rebukes by team mates should be don't in the privacy of the changing room and not futher faning the flames through the media.

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22 Feb 2015 00:30:42
Agreed Philly! It should be done in-house and the captain should know better and diffuse the situation in public. Now that BR came out and proved Balo right for taking the peno for whatever raason, now makes SG look like a mug and proves the case that everyone should have just calmed down and allow the media to to do their trolling. Hopfully, lessons have been learnt here.

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22 Feb 2015 00:46:49
Gerrard put himself on the spot by agreeing to do punditry on his own team whilst still playing for the club to earn a couple of much needed quid. Could you imagine Neville doing the same and then having to play with those players the next week???

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22 Feb 2015 08:11:18
Ed002, you say Gerrard was put on the spot? Yes maybe he was, but as captain of LFC that should be expected, and shouldn't he have been more diplomatic and neutral? Or shall we accept that the two most forefront figures of LFC can say what they please in front of the media?

Gerrard's damaging comments should not be taken lightly and could lead to potential divisions amongst the squad. I guarantee if it was any other player except Gerrard, he would undoubtedly be disciplined by the club.

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{Ed001's Note - the issue with Gerrard was that he should never have been there for one, and secondly Balotelli should have followed instruction and not left him having to comment. The issue was all down to Balotelli not being able to do anything but think about himself.}

22 Feb 2015 10:49:07
I really can't see the argument here. Ed001 has hit the nail on the head.

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21 Feb 2015 12:03:50
We're on a good run of form with Balotelli improving slightly and Rodgers comes out and creates more unnecessary baggage for the club. He's a complete liability with the media

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21 Feb 2015 12:57:12
who is the LFC communications officer ? he needs to be sacked for allowing Brendan Rogers alone in front of TV and radio to make stupid rash statements which under mine players and most importantly the football club. Brendan should be reprimanded over his comments on Mario we have a player who is only just coming to terms with what LFC are bout and showing signs of finding some form and he once again single him out for criticism poor man management

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21 Feb 2015 13:16:46
Ed when you say miffed at him again. Which him? BR for talking about it? Gerrard for publicly criticising? Or Mario?

I understand BR has said Mario WAS the pen taker? The only one of the three causing a problem then would be SG, for airing something on TV, if BR was correct.

I don't see the problem with having a striker wanting to score? He is better then Hendo in that situation. Only SG has caused damaged by going on and on about disrespect. What the hell is he doing in the pundit chair on match day?

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{Ed002's Note - Balotelli for causing yet more disruption.}

22 Feb 2015 00:34:45
If BR says Balo was the peno taker then where`s the beef? It was a non issue IMO, because we have seen this done many times. It was only a big issue because it was Balo and SG didn`t do his job as club capt and let it roll over his back hence, had to make comments that were later debunked by BR. Just my opinion!

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21 Feb 2015 11:13:29
Hey eds. just want to ask something.
If for instance both lfc and arsenal finish out of top 4. but arsenal winn ucl nd lfc win d europa league then what will happen?
Will england have 5 representatives?
Will dey hv 4?wid only d top2 gaining automatic qual.
Or will lfc miss out in dis case?
Thanks nd keep up the good work :)

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{Ed001's Note - I believe that is one of the instances that England would end up with 5 teams in the Champions League. Someone on the Everton site did post up the rules relating to it the other day, Cowpat Sid, it might be worth having a look at that, because it is very convoluted and not exactly clear.}

21 Feb 2015 12:09:14
Well in theory in this case we can have 6 teams in the CL, no?

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{Ed002's Note - No. The fourth placed team would lose out.}

21 Feb 2015 12:49:39
True - forgot this, the fourth team lose for the CL winner as Spurs remember only too good - but doesn't lose it to the EL winner

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{Ed002's Note - The rules have changed since then.}

21 Feb 2015 17:16:06
Hi Eds.If the Europa final was between say spurs and Lfc and one finished in top four would the loser get a champion league place? thanks in advance .

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{Ed001's Note - no. The runners up no longer get the places.}

22 Feb 2015 05:24:19
It does seem really odd for an Evertonian to post about CL :P

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21 Feb 2015 11:04:15
The manager is now confirming all our doubts about the Italian.

How the Kop sing his name is beyond me.

Still, someone is to blame for such a dire and naive signing.

He's a joke and one of the most overrated players I've seen in many years.

Poor old Rickie.

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21 Feb 2015 12:05:26
Yeah 24 years of age.
4 League titles
5 Cups
Golden Boy award
Seria A Team of the Year
Euro Team of the Tournament
FA Cup MOTM
92 career goals

Not to mention the millions spent on him. Not so bad for a 24 year old.

Yes the guy has not shown his true potential but have some faith and get behind the guy. As if his honours and stats are of an over rated player just imagine how good he could be.

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21 Feb 2015 12:03:28
Lol and u actually believe a word that comes outa Brendan's mouth? The man's a con artist and a one season wonder who will be sacked regardless of how much u worship him. Nothing has changed with respect to clueless Brendan shoving all the criticism and pressure upon Balo to save his own backside.

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21 Feb 2015 12:32:00
Marco remind me how many times he's been fined by the club, fined by others fined by governing bodies etc.
I could point out everything Edin Dzeko has won that he's barely fetured for same with Park Ji Sung.

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21 Feb 2015 12:03:28
Lol and u actually believe a word that comes outa Brendan's mouth? The man's a con artist and a one season wonder who will be sacked regardless of how much u worship him. Nothing has changed with respect to clueless Brendan shoving all the criticism and pressure upon Balo to save his own backside.

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21 Feb 2015 12:50:02
He is OUR player support him

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21 Feb 2015 12:57:20
When has he been fined by Liverpool? All this is his past.
Raheem got arrested for assault on his girlfriend do we still bring that up? No as the player was young and naive like Mario was.

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{Ed002's Note - I am aware of three fines at Liverpool. Just move on.}

21 Feb 2015 14:44:00
Ay, Marco, you've got a cheek lad.

I get slated on here for defending players, but by supporting this lad I would be as fickle as you are.

I couldn't stand him at City, in fact, I regularly laughed at the over hype of such a poor player, so you want me to be fickle because he plays for our club?

I work with City fans to, who all agree and couldn't wait to get rid of him near the end.

That my friend is fact, but if you happened to read my many years of posting (instead of your two minutes of it on here) you would see I'm as loyal as they come, but I will not defend this blert.

Dont patronise me on being loyal lad as this lad is taking mine and many others hard earned money.

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21 Feb 2015 15:29:53
Oh forgot Davey number one fan and only his opinions count. Get over yourself.

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21 Feb 2015 15:48:13
Personally can't wait till we get rid of Mario and lose his supporters on here.

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21 Feb 2015 15:59:39
Couldn't agree more, Bobatron. For some reason with that guy in the side everything always becomes about him. Would rather be discussing Ibe's great game, Henderson's excellent free kick that near crept in, or that hit by Moreno, instead we're talking about Mario who has again managed to make himself the center of attention yet again. For someone who claims to not want to be the center of the media circus, he sure manages to put himself there often.

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22 Feb 2015 00:26:02
Henderson's free kick wasn't that excellent as it didn't creep in did it? In fact it missed, just as the penalty would have missed had Henderson taken it.

Some people on here should open their eyes. Henderson runs all day but is crap. God forbid if he ends up as captain next season. Balotelli might not run as much but can influence a game just as as he has more class and a better touch.

Big Mouth Rodgers was at it again I see. Well he would have to back up what his skipper said in the tv studio, wouldn't he? The sooner Gerrard and Rodgers stop licking each others arses the better for everyone.

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22 Feb 2015 00:46:48
Davey, take a day off because you`re no better than the hapless media trolls who can`t leave the boy alone even when he scores a get-out-of-jail peno that got us the win. In the first half of the seaso, we would have killed for these perfs from him. Now we are getting them slowly and surely and people are still complaining. FFS, when he scores, they crap on him. He doesn`t, they rip him and make him the scapegoat for all our ills while we all know whose fault they are. I have stopped caring what people think about him and will defend him because to many, he can do NOTHING right hence, why bother. He is a handful. YOU THINK? But is NOT a lost cause based on his recent improvement on work ethic and effort and goalsHe is improving and has won us two games so he is doing his job and as far as he is doing that, I see no prob.

Boba is right. I will be happy to see him go as well. That way, he will no longer be the scapegoat for whatever probs will have and the true culprit(s) will have NOWHERE and NOBODY to hide behind.

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21 Feb 2015 10:52:09
Just to let everyone know our performances when we play thur, sun, thur, sun etc will be slower and more controlled so we don't burn out!

And anyone complaining about coutinho the other night, give your head a wobble the lads goosed he has started our games since unites I think, the boy does need a break which Brendan should give this Sunday!

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21 Feb 2015 09:35:04
Hey lfc fans

I agree with the posts regarding Rodgers unnecessary comments again on balo
Just tell him face to face without talking rubbish to the media
He talks about workrate besides the penalty. But did anyone actually see coutinho in that game??
He was so awful and extremely lazy. Actually watch that game guys and I remember saying to my friends. He's not even running take him off! And he gets subbed liked two mins later .

So he needs to use his damn brain
Don't alienate the guy . If u wanna sell him ok fine but encourage and be positive with the player until the end of the season

And also treat everyone the same because i saw laziness in that game too!

Other than that it will be interesting to see tiredness in the game on Sunday depending on the team because the same players will play again

60 mins mark could see Southampton swamp liverpool with attacks

Predicting a hard fought draw at best . 0-0

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21 Feb 2015 10:49:32
Totally agree with the first half of your post. Rodgers has the audacity to attack Balotelli in public when our play clearly improved with him on the pitch. What happened to the good old days when managers would try to give as little as possible to the media? Rodgers' frequent public stupidity seems to have rubbed off on our captain who couldn't keep his comments to himself.

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21 Feb 2015 11:06:44
Coutinho looked very tired for me, and has done couple last matches, also Besiktas did a very good job putting constant pressure on him. I have always thought that BR would be better with his press conferences when he gets som more practice, but i now start to give up on him. LFC cannot have a manager messing up something everytime he gives an interview, and its starting to get embarrising. I have never seen a manager talking this much crap about he's players and it cannot continue. When things is bad, its the players fault. When things look a bit better, he takes all the credits. i'm actually tempted to say i want a new manager. Peace

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21 Feb 2015 12:40:16
Ztooid, very well put mate. No doubt Brendan is a very good coach but an absolute embarrassment of a manager. Shocking handling of the media and the public criticism of his own players not to mention the soon to be broken promises to the owners will eventually lead to his downfall. He never owns up to his mistakes and that is the very reason why he has failed to push on from last season. If he admitted to his limitations and let the owners bring in people to help him, he would no doubt improve, but Brendan has so much arrogance that would leave Mourinho scratching his head and failure to protect his players from the media to make himself look good is just bad man management imo.

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21 Feb 2015 14:48:33
And how does red lobster see his own team doing this week? i'm going for a loss with swansea taking all 3 points

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21 Feb 2015 16:57:21
Oh dear lobster, looks like my prediction came true. Haha were breathing down your necks son

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21 Feb 2015 09:03:24
Hope Mario scores the winner against the Saints. Then everyone will shut up about the penalty.
You would have thought he had murdered someone the way most of the media and ex players are slating him.

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21 Feb 2015 09:23:06
That would be good and he has been far better recently, but he just doesn't help himself, does he?

Just one of those situations where someone has all the ability and the tools, but none of the application and sense.

Very frustrating.

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21 Feb 2015 11:07:19
Hope mario is nowhere near the pitch. That sorry excuse of a footballer.

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21 Feb 2015 12:27:10
We have been crying out all season for mario to show a bit of fight and an actual desire to score and win.
He knew he was the man to take that pen, he did and it won us the match.
Maybe if some of the other players and staff showed a bit of the same desire (including mario from the start) this season could have been a different story.

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21 Feb 2015 15:34:37
I am with you on this one Mikey, Mario with Stevie G out yet again, just had to take that pen, and this was the first time that I saw Mario looking like a Liverpool player, In just wonder what we would be talking about had hendo taking that pen and missing it, and what would our great Stevie G say then .

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21 Feb 2015 08:47:50
Hi eds, just want to know your opinions on Rodgers comments on Baloteli.Dont get me wrong, his attitude and application have not being good enough for the most part this season but in the last 3 games he's being the difference for us.Its one of the worst pieces of man management you are ever likely to see and for me two things are obvious in this, (1)he's actually totally wrong because he did work after the pen and actually made a good interception in his own box near the end and(2)it strikes me as "my own man Rodgers" said to himself I better get back into the good boys camp here i.e. Gerrard and Henderson and slate him after initially backing him the day before.Another pathetic and embarrassing interview from the manager of Liverpool football club!

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21 Feb 2015 08:44:25
Hi eds what you think of Rodgers comments on mario? Is more being made of it than what there was?

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{Ed001's Note - I am sure he thinks he is doing the right thing, but only time will tell when we see how Mario reacts.}

21 Feb 2015 09:02:32
He's helped change the game the last 3 games in a row and played really well against Besiktas. If I were Balo I'd be asking what I need to do right to stop getting criticised.

The goal was in the 85th minute. does a public comment about being lazy on the back of the last 8 minutes of a game (which I didn't see) make any sense whatsoever? Even if he felt it, surely a quiet conversation in the dressing room would be a better way to handle.

So annoying to see such rubbish in the press once again.

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21 Feb 2015 10:41:56
Zimbo Mario needs pushing all the time he needs to do more. Simples.

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21 Feb 2015 10:57:03
I think Mario seems to respond more to stick than carrot, seems to be working so far as he has improved since the Chelsea game. He is pressing more and getting in the box which is good.

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21 Feb 2015 11:41:55
Like everyone has said about him at press conferences. I'm sure he always thinks he's doing the right thing but he never learns that he keeps messing up. 2 weeks ago talking about sterlings contract and countless other times. BR should have a muzzle on him.

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21 Feb 2015 11:53:13
Rodgers is spot on about Mario.

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21 Feb 2015 08:28:53
A general comment - not necessarily about LFC although it is initiated by my frustration with how little we make from corners, free kicks and also losing so many balls after throw-ins and also how poor is our decision making in the last third sometimes. It seems that there is so little tactical work of that kind in football. In sports like basketball or American football teams can work on 5-6 different plays or scenarios just for one point on the pitch (e.g. throw-ins under the basket).

Of what I have read, a typical training day for a PL player will be 3-5 hours max including one or two meals, signings and PR duties etc. Even if there are fitness experts who say how much fitness the players should do, why not do more tactical work or at least 1-2 hours with video analysis looking at previous games and future opponents. These guys get so much money and do so little for it.

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21 Feb 2015 07:20:17
Can't believe Rogers latest comments on Mario. He has come back into the team after losing all confidence in a pis* poor side. And scored and helped create 3 winners in 3 games. He has finally looked like buying into the whole team thing, working hard and gaining confidence. And all he gets is he needs to work harder, and that BR isn't happy with his performance. Coming from a guy who says we were outstanding, and the better team after getting smashed 3 nill! Plus the whole Gerrard thing. No matter what Mario done when he came to Liverpool, he was doomed to fail IMO.

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21 Feb 2015 08:05:11
I know what you mean. Saw the comments this morning and once again found myself cringing at another Brendan interview!
He seems so desperate to protect the 'team' ethos yet has no problem singling out one individual who has shown real signs of trying to integrate into the team mentality.
Please make him stop!

Cheers

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21 Feb 2015 08:32:02
Hardly integrating yourself into the team by taking the ball off the captain, is it? Balotelli plays for himself, not the team and I'm not surprised as he's an incredibly divisive player, always has been. As the Eds have said, it will all end in tears.

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21 Feb 2015 08:54:59
rodgers is right lol its some fans low standards that think 3 goals and 50 minutes of playing is good enough and he has proved himself lmao

Say again thank god these fans aren't managers lols.

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21 Feb 2015 11:45:09
It's proving that he's capable of playing our system and working hard. Would you prefer he wasnt improving just so you could gloat on here even though that means the team may have been worse off. He's improved a lot, didn't realize it was such a crime acknowledging that.

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21 Feb 2015 13:06:03
I don't see rogers having a daily go about a player who cost more than Mario. Loveren who has been rubbish all season and does not look like a twenty million pound player more like a twenty pound player a bench warmer

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21 Feb 2015 15:47:14
Probably has to do with Lovren hasn't swapped shirts with anyone at halftime, hasn't stalked off the pitch rather than recognizing the supporters, hasn't been suspended for tweeting rubbish, and hasn't taken the ball off the captain to take a penalty himself. Lovren may not have played well, but he hasn't caused nearly as many headaches for Rodgers as Balotelli has.

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22 Feb 2015 01:49:56
I feel nothing for BR on that point, RDL. Why? because he had a chance to block the move if he didn`t want him as he did for Bony, Remy and the other strikers he was offered per the Ed`s info BUT didn`t. He stood by and let it happen so deserves NO sympathy from me. Hence, he deserves every bit of headache, backache or any other ache he gets.

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21 Feb 2015 04:39:53
Just saw that Bielsa's contract ends this summer.

What with the review overhauling pretty much everything in the club, it'd be no surprise to see Rodgers go even if we managed to get 3rd or 4th and won the Europa League and the FA Cup.

And then, maybe, just maybe, ed001 will get his wish of Bielsa managing Liverpool.

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{Ed001's Note - that won't happen sadly. Bielsa doesn't speak English.}

21 Feb 2015 08:03:16
Believe me zpecianoe if we either finish top 4 or win the EL or the FA cup, even ED001 will think it is more than crazy to get rid of BR and thw owners will never dream of sacking him (and rightly so).

And if we get two of the three (probably will not happen) or all three (surely will not happen) than BR will be with us for another decade if he wishes to.

In my view BR's job is pretty safe for next season even if we don't get any of these targets, as long as we keep on playing like we do at the moment. I think you and others here give way too much importance to this 'review' process. Senior figures in organisations very rarely pay any price becuase of reviews of this kind.And football managers don't stay or go because of reviews but because of results and progress.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but please don't speak for me. It would not be crazy to sack him, he would only have himself to blame if he was sacked. It would not be rightly so, because top 4 would be failure. Top 3 is where we should be, 4th is simply not good enough after the money we spent and it would all be at Brendan's door because it is his errors that have cost us the chance to challenge at the top.}

21 Feb 2015 08:31:06
Correct me if I am wrong ed001 but I am pretty sure I saw you saying here last week that it will be crazy to sack BR if he wins trophies.

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{Ed001's Note - never said it would be crazy to sack him ever.}

21 Feb 2015 08:49:36
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Top 3 Where we should be, are you sure. I know you have issues with BR which is rightly your opinion but the squad has finally settled from a slow start, basically a new team, yeah he should have sorted it earlier but there is nio right to win or come 1234, on your reckoning mourinho should have been sacked. the money he spent last year he won nothing, not sure about the year before.
The cost of sacking the turmoil etc . Are we city, you keep going on about are financial predicament well sacking certainly won't help.
It's like west ham, I'm no alladyce fan but especially that club be careful what you wish for. , I love watching Liverpool and love watching BR Liverpool, I have issues yes but no one perfect

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{Ed001's Note - oh for heaven's sake, my issues are that the slow start was Rodgers' fault, that is why we are not challenging Man City, which is where we should be. New team crap is just idiotic nonsense from people with no understanding of the game, it was nothing to do with new players, it was down to a change in system. He brought in mostly players who played a high pressing system, to add to a team of players who played that at the end of the season, then changed the system so no one knew their role. One man failed us. Rodgers.

As for the Mourinho thing, again ridiculous, Jose's position is nothing to do with this, but at least his team challenged immediately and then he took them a step further the following season. You can't see the difference between a manager improving the situation and one who takes the club immediately backwards after every good thing he does.

It costs a lot more to keep giving Rodgers money to spend each season than it would getting rid and getting a head coach in who deals with the players he is given.

As for West Ham, you have no idea what is happening there, so please don't show your ignorance any further, it only proves how little you know by including Allardyce in this. Though he is another that is failing miserably by his own stubborn failure to stop reverting to a system that failed.}

21 Feb 2015 08:59:22
Jeez, let the money go! If we had been the only club to spend big and others got free agents and loans then fine! But we spent not much compared to the other top clubs but also were the only ones to lose are best player and then our other world class player in sturridge for 5 months!

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{Ed001's Note - we are one of the biggest spenders in world football, how did we spend not much? That is just a downright lie.}

21 Feb 2015 09:22:42
@ed001:

Why won't Bielsa coach Liverpool just because he can't speak English? Or is it because FSG want an English-speaking manager/head coach? Because if that is the case, I think it's pretty ridiculous, they can always hire an English tutor for them!

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{Ed002's Note - Neither - Liverpool has shown no interest in Biesla.}

21 Feb 2015 10:58:16
Sorry I meant we are only spending what everyone else is spending, it's not like were spending and noone else is!

100 mil should get you a league if no one else is spending, but everyone does that is why the league is so competetive!

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{Ed001's Note - but we were second and spent more than the team above us and the teams below us, except for Man Utd, so we should expect to still be in a similar position this season.}

21 Feb 2015 11:47:38
Just to comment on the eds mourinho post, that wasn't just his team last year, that team has been getting built for 3/4 years, his only addition to the first team was Willian and now he cherry picked 4 world class players to take them the next level, matic, costa, fabregas and courtis (who was bought by avb)! He's not working with scraps, he is also showing his reluctance to work with young players ie cuarado over Marko (very similar except one was ready made and the other needed some work and patience) - costa over lukaku!

Mourinho success at Chelsea is a given with the players he has!

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{Ed001's Note - but that is down to good management, he is working with the club to identify the right players. We are spending lots to buy players we don't need, instead of just bringing in a couple that we do. So I fail to see your point. Jose is not asking for 20 players a season, unlike Brendan. So yes it is a given, because he knows what he is doing and builds on what he has, rather than throws it out and starts again each season with a whole new team.}

21 Feb 2015 11:57:08
You joking HA, we also lost Suarez and sturridge! Did the team above us lose toure or Silva? How about matic and hazard?

We also invested in the future more than now so Marko, can, origi, Moreno wernt really excepted to contribute until about now!

Again we would be sound if no one else spent anything!

Costa 30m, hazard 35mil, William 30 mil, Oscar 25 mil, fab 30 mil, cuarado 25 mil, ramires 20mil,

Sterling free, studge 12mil, hendo 16 mil, Allen 15 mil, Gerrard free, coutinho 8, can 8, Marko 20, lallana 25, ballo 16, ibe free, lambert 4!!

And aswel the wage diffeence will be huge!

So were spending to keep up!

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{Ed001's Note - Chelsea sold players like De Bruyne and now Schurrle to bring in the players they did, hardly their fault we can't build on what we have is it? How did we lose Sturridge? He was injured, hardly lost. Toure has been at the AFCON, Silva, Aguero, Nasri and Kompany have all had injury problems, or does that only count when it is Sturridge? Sorry but you are just posting nonsense.

We have invested badly, Chelsea invested well, which is mainly down to the managers's decisions. Jose finished 3rd and just brought in a couple of players to fix the holes in his team. Brendan finishes 2nd and buys a whole new team. His fault.

By the way, Gerrard is the highest paid player in that list by a margin, the wage difference is not that large. You are not making any sense.}

21 Feb 2015 12:28:32
I could swear in one of those endless questions to you about whehter he will stay at the end of the year you said if he wins trophies it will be stupid to sack him, Surely I am not imagining that - am I the only one who remember this?

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{Ed002's Note - The point is that Rodgers promised a challenge for the Champions League and for the Premier League (which he actually said he would win for the owners this season). He has failed miserably - there are no two ways about it.

As for the previous poster "never forget96", perhaps he should ponder that Chelsea has made a profit on transfers for each of the last three windows - they are balancing the books. He should look for examples to one of the other sides who fall in to the same category as Liverpool for FFP - under investigation.}

21 Feb 2015 13:14:04
The point is though at some point chelsea bought all these players without having the books balanced what they did was buy the best and buy virtually everyone with a talent and now 10 years later they're making profits in transfer windows by selling them. Chelsea's team first started being built when RA joined and for the first 5, 6, 7 years spent and spent and lost and lost but then he had a great team so didn't need to spend as much to maintain it. Then they started buying the top talents, luiz, lukaku, shurlee, hazards, Oscar etc etc etc etc last season we had the top team like Chelsea has but then we sold our hazard so that we could buy our future stars and yes we over spent but what's to say that in 5 years can, origi, sterling, ibe, coutinho aren't all worth £30m+? And then we will be making money in transfer markets if we sell them. Chelsea started to speculate to accumulate years ago 3 maybe 5 we've just had 2/3 so now we need the fruits to grow (which they are currently) and then we can sell them and make the money there always has to be the enitial outlay you just hope it's well spent and some of ours hasn't been as well as Chelsea spent theirs but they could offer wages and transfer fees we could only offer transfer fees meaning some of the top talents wouldn't pick us anyway

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{Ed002's Note - It is not about Chelsea but the point is that the players the poster quoted have been bought and the books have been balanced.

The problem Liverpool has is that a series of managers have pissed the money up the wall repeatedly. They have had money to spend and they have spent it badly. The money on Ilori, Aspas and Alberto could have gotten the club a high-end striker. The money on Lovren, Coates and Manquillo could have provided for a high-end defender.

Then you can consider whether money was well spent on the likes of Joe Allen, Fabio Borini, Simon Mignolet, Balotelli, Oussama Assaidi, Samed Yesil and the loans of Victor Moses, Nuri Sahin and Aly Cissokho?

Chelsea have spent better and have balanced the books - Liverpool have really fouled it up, ended up in massive debt which will be increasing considerably over the next couple of years, currently have prize money withheld and are one of the clubs under investigation with the possibility of joining the growing list of clubs being sanctioned for financial mismanagement.

This obsession about Chelsea 10 years ago is really embarrassing - but that is the world's most fickle fans for you.}

21 Feb 2015 14:59:28
I agree with everything you've said their that seems to me exactly what I put. My hope is that our latest set of buys turn out to be good buys like Chelsea's and we can sell them or they bring us the success which brings us the money to lower the debt in the future

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{Ed001's Note - glad you get the point being made! Sometimes it feels like making a point on here is like banging your head against a brick wall.}

21 Feb 2015 19:21:49
I agree with you, currently Chelsea are the absolute best run club on the planet! They sell well to buy well and they never seem to buy flops!

BUT. Torres 50 mil? Shevvers 40 mil? Kezman, veron, remember duff for 20 mil, Mikel 24 mil? And there's others but I can't think of them all so there's some of there flops over the years without balancing the books!

Annd up until now only costa, fabregas and luiz were bought by balancing the books and most recently curado! But drogba, robben, lampard, Torres, luiz, hazard, Oscar, William, shurlle, magic, Mikel, essien, makelele, cech, schevechenko, duff, ramieres were not bought balancing the books!!!

The reason mourinho was able to just add the right players is because all his buying was done before he got there so that team was ready to have the odd few added!

We will be this summer, st, cm and gk is all we need and ship some of the shit off! Last summer was needed no matter what people say but It was with the view of can, origi, Marko and Moreno leaving for big bucks! Imagine we hadn't got can, pretty sure the Bayern move would of happened this summer if he progress like he has with all our 'bad coaching'

I understand you get on our case thinking we are obsessed with Chelsea but we are allowed to defend our club when you claim there better run than us etc and seem to forget what they went through to get to that stage!

I firmly believe we will be there in 1/2 more years, no more 35 mil on ten pieces of crap but on one superstar! But we needed all of this to get to there!

Next year aspas, alberto, borini, Gerrard, jonno, toure and poss Enrique, Lucas, ballo, lambert, migs will be shipped off and I imagine depending if we can afford it st, cm and gk. A side point to that is I wouldn't mind Milner for cm lol

And last thing eds now we can be friends again, were we are with ffp do you not think Chelsea would be there aswel if the rulling was brought in earlier??

Oh and you can't seriously compare Chelsea losing lukaku, de brune and shurrly to us losing sturridge and Suarez! And toure was only missing for January! And don't start me on how much they have spent consistently for 5 years! And there debt free because of the lucrative sponsoship off fly emirates or something like psg get 150mil per year from the Dubai tourism budget lol

Take care eds I've rambled abit so sorry!

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21 Feb 2015 19:25:21
Ohhhh and balancing the books which you love talking about! Why do you never ever ever ever when talking about how much we spent last summer include the 65 MILLION we brought in and take that away from the 109? So we spent 44 mil! Forget the addons and that because you don't talk about them when mentioning any other team so just the figures we spent 44 mil and lost a world class player that our team was built around!

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{Ed002's Note - Where have I mentioned £109M? Everything you have said is from an embarrassing level of pig ignorance. You clearly have no idea about FFP, the amount of money the owners are allowed to contribute and the issues that Liverpool has. You seem to understand nothing about how clubs need to be financially responsible, how the transfer processes work nor how much debt Liverpool has accumulated.

The team was not built around Suarez - the runt wanted nothing more than to leave Liverpool and had been trying to do so for more than a season. Putting aside how he dragged the name of the club through the gutter, he also looked to take the club to court for stopping his move to Arsenal.}

21 Feb 2015 20:37:01
No you say "with the money spent" but don't include what we brought in money wise and what we lost player wise.

Another question is if he had asked would they have spent 90 mil this summer on costa, fabregas and Luiz? With no player/players bought with future sell on fee?

And the team was built around him, who you kidding? I didn't say he had a heart of gold or was loyal to the bone did I? He was a backstabbing little runt who I'm glad to see struggle away from afield because maybe he will value what he had here a little but the team was operating on the bases that as long as he doesn't bite someone he is.upfront and we play away to get the best out.of Him! 2 terrific seasons under rodgers :)

Eds I do have to ask but you literally just ignored the majority of what I.said.in my previous posts? Why can't we get a discussion going, I did raise sone good points that I would.of liked your opinion on instead of just choosing the one.to make you seem so much.clever than the rest of us 'pff haha money you fans don't.have a clue' who cares. We spend money lol

Have you seen how much them yanks spend at Boston red soxs? They committed like 110mil to one player last summer, they are in.breach of there salary cap there aswell so I beg the question does rodgers ruin both or do they themselves make bad decisions?

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{Ed002's Note - Your points were nonsense - you simply do not understand at all. You sure as hell don't understand how baseball works either. You have to stop going on and on about Chelase - they are meeting the FFP regulations and have done since they come in. They are spending less on transfers in than on transfers out. Liverpool are spending money they don't have on the transfer of players they don't need. They are well beyond any minor breach of FFP and continued again this last summer to abuse the rules. They are already under investigation from the previous year's infringements - they will be in further trouble again next season unless they can make very major sales before the end of June. Prize money has already been withheld. The sanctions can potentially be very serious indeed. Add to that crippling debts which will increase with the building work. Once the naming rights have been sold and the TV and other sponsorship come in 2017 the owners will be looking to move on.}

21 Feb 2015 23:27:22
I think its a good thing that the owners move on Edd. i'm sure they would love to have there time again, but you can't blame them for wanting to cut ties with the club. They have blown some serious money and if you look at the table, the club are no better off. If it was me and my money, i would be that mentally scared, i would prob trade the club for a six pack of beer and a pack of smokes. Then use the rest of my hefty wealth to lay up on my own island some where in the tropics.
but hey, that's me.

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22 Feb 2015 12:32:19
The owners ain't going anywhere lol! By 2017 they will actually start to be making some money, the new TV deal in, hopefully regular champions league, the likes of sterling, can, moreno, marko, origi could possibly have big.fees on there heads, the stadium will be built, and the likes of all are stupidly big wages will be cut. So sorry Eds 110% they will be here.

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{Ed001's Note - you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Your ignorance is astounding and this is getting embarrassing now. Just give up, you are clueless.}

21 Feb 2015 03:21:24
Why can't the man just shut his mouth??

If I was the owner of Liverpool FC - which, thank god I'm not - the first thing I would do would be to remove Brendan Rodgers from any and all press conferences. The man simply can't be trusted.

I mean seriously, is it just me or does Brendan cause more fires then he stops.

Why lay into Balotelli after he supposedly drew a line over the penalty saga??

Why talk about a lack of work rate??

Now, don't get me wrong, Balotelli is far from hard working but surely you could seen an improvement in his work ethic last night. He came back several times and supported the team a number of times, and is showing signs of improvement.

And what does the great Brendan Rodgers do, how does he respond to this?? Does he offer words of encouragement or perhaps praise??

No, he slates him.

Brendan was even asked if Balotelli would play next week against Besiktas and Brendan says this, "If he works harder then when he came on, he'll play."

Seriously, put a muzzle on him or get someone else to speak. Why is he allowed near the press conferences when he is clearly a ticking time bomb. Get Pascoe on conference duty and keep Brendan away from it.

He's clearly not listening to the owners who were, politely, telling him to pipe down. Does the man not realise that one bad or mixed season could easily result in his departure, due in no small part to his behaviour. Does he want to leave??

I truly am baffled by this.

E.D. Do you think the owners will look to move Brendan Rodgers before the season ends or keeping him but restricting him from taking part in interviews??

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21 Feb 2015 08:17:09
Maybe its what balo needs. He did ok the last three appearances but still needs to do a lot more. He's a big boy and should be able to take some constructive criticism

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