Liverpool Banter Archive March 21 2014

21 Mar 2014 21:55:04
were all Liverpool ant we??

4-1 tomorrow

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21 Mar 2014 20:19:11
Don't take the p**s but why don't the u21s have there names on there shirts?

Because it's the u21's

Just from a logical point of view I imagine it's because the team may change around frequently, usurping the need for squad numbers etc. As first team players oft appear to regain fitness. Just a theory.

21 Mar 2014 19:35:08
Was talking about it at work and got me thinking, only young so can't go as far back as most but here it is:
If you could have any one player from the past put into our squad at their prime who would it be?
I'm between either:
Xabi Alonso - love our current players, but Alonso was one of my all time favourites! World class and could defend control possession and start a counter perfectly, just imagine him Stevie and hendo/coutinho supporting our front 3!
Sami Hyypia - was thinking Torres but don't think he was flexible enough to suit our 3 forwards (and goals hasn't been a problem) and Hyypia would strengthen our back four immensely esp from set pieces!

Who would you go for?

I know we are blessed with an awesome strikeforce at the moment, but would love Fowler in his prime.
Was my favourite player for a long time.
Lets split it into areas of the pitch, as it might help with selections:

Striker - Fowler
Midfielder - Barnes
Defender - Marcus Babel

John Barnes without a doubt. As you point out, a commanding centre half is probably what we need, but JB was such a joy to watch and would suit our current system perfectly!

Souness. Sprayed the ball round like Xabi but hard as nails. Disaster as a manager though and not forgiven for interview with that newspaper.

We need a left sided player, so without a doubt John Barnes

Alan Hanson.
The way he organised the defence was commanding, and he could also play the ball out from the back very well. Brendan would of loved him in his team.
Also agree with Digger good shout!

Get a result today lads I'm starting to dream!

21 Mar 2014 18:37:52
Liverpool U21 team v Newcastle U21
Mersin, Randall, Jones, Paez, Maguire,
Rossiter, Brannagan, Smith, Dunn, Kent,
Petersen
Subs:
Baio, Fulton, Trickett-Smith, Bijev

21 Mar 2014 17:52:35
Liverpool U21s take on Newcastle United at Anfield live on LFC TV and LFCTV GO from 6.30pm.
Kick-off is at 7pm and Alex Inglethorpe's charges will be hoping to get back to winning ways after the 1-1 draw with Blackburn Rovers last time around.
Liverpool U21's are currently lying in 2nd place 3pts behind Fulham with 2 games in hand. Fulham play away to Man City tomorrow afternoon at 3 o clock.
I will post the team as soon as I have it.

21 Mar 2014 17:27:59
Hi All- was wondering cd someone enlighten me to the permutations of the next few fixtures-If we win all our matches will be champions or do City have too many games, or what's the story? Cheers

21 Mar 2014 20:36:28
It's not a question of permutations. Look at the table. 3 points for a win. I'm sure you can figure this out.

Mathematically no. But if we win all our remaining fixtures we will win the league without a doubt mate.
City will drop points as will everyone

I think if I'm
Correct but could be wrong so don't hold me to it. If Chelsea lose to arsenal tomorrow and city lose to united this week that puts the league in our hands. all we have to do then is win our remaining matches and it's ours.

If we win all of our remaining games and Chelsea and City win all of their remaining games (except losing to us of course) then we will finish 2nd 1 point behind City and 2 points ahead of Chelsea. Arsenal could win all of their remaining games (including against Chelsea) but unless they post huge scores, we will still finish above them due to our superior goal difference.

To be sure of winning the league (which of course I am not thinking about, and am only focussing on Cardiff!) we would need another team to take points off City. That's why I'm actually disappointed by RVP's injury as it pretty much kills any chance United have of nicking a draw in the derby, IMO.

21 Mar 2014 13:47:21
The real AG
I know Ed02 has said that we won't go for moreno but since ed 001 said that he wouldlike us to sign moreno maybe there is some chance we might go for him
As for Kampl well he is certainly one for the future and having watched him Ihe is better than most young players of his position in the Pl

{Ed002's Note - Which is why Real Madrid want him.}

Kampl or Moreno ed?

{Ed002's Note - Moreno.}

21 Mar 2014 15:47:53
Reet2107Liverpool, one request, let's try and keep the discussion to the original post. I am not sure if the Ed's prefer a new thread being opened when your original post is only a couple of threads below.

I know Ed001 has said he would like us to sign Alberto Moreno, and I am sure LFC would like a player like Moreno, but I can't see us beating Real Madrid, Chelsea or whoever else is trying to buy him, to buy him. Therefor, he is NOT a realistic signing.

Kampl is 24 this year and not one for the future. He is a versatile player having played Right midfield, central Midfield, Attacking Midfield, Left Midfield for Salzburg and has done well. But IMO, there are better players out there we can go for. Firmino would be my choice as I mentioned below.

I have no idea whether Real Madrid have an interest in Kampl (I am not sure if Ed02's reference is aimed at Moreno or Kampl).

"Better than most young players of his position" is subjective ofcourse. Also, I don't know if you are comparing him to EPL based players or not.

In the PL, there are many who are better than him IMO. Oscar, Nasri, Silva, Coutinho, Ozil, Cazorla, the OX, Eriksen, Barkley, Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj, Lallana, Gaston Ramirez just in the top half.

I know I have exclusively mentioned attacking midfielders, I have done so because I believe we are primarily looking for an attacking midfielder. You didn't mention who you were comparing him to, but Kampl is a similar type of player to the above mentioned ones.

{Ed002's Note - It was aimed at Moreno.}

Kevin Kampl this season.

Austrian Bundesliga - 25 games played, 9 goals, 17 assists.

Europa League - 11 games played, 3 goals, 6 assists.

Fair enough, the Austrian Bundesliga isn't the most difficult league in the world, but he has shown he is ready for the step up to a bigger club/league.

His Europa League record has been very good this season, and gives us an idea of how well he plays against bigger teams.

For me he is better than our Philippe with his passing ability and eye for goal. He would be a perfect fit operating behind Suarez and Studge, and as AG pointed out he can also play right mid, left mid, and central mid.

For around £8-10m he would be a great buy.

Red Rum

First of all I apologize for posting above as my original.thread was just below xxxit was a mistqke
Ae for Kampl I am not saying he is better thwj the players you mentioned bit his cost will be kuch less and and he will provide effective cover for the AM role in oir team remember suso can also play ij a traditional CM role

21 Mar 2014 11:42:24
Obviously this is just for fun but with Rogers "linked" with barca let's say he went what Liverpool or swansea players would he bring with him?

11-12 players i'd imagine.

I am not sure Barca would be happy with BR bringing "his" players from LFC or Swansea. I can see him going for Henderson.

Hendo was a key player in the midfield diamond agaisnt manU. He was the key link between midfield and attack along with Stirling. Anyway I think right now we'd beat Barca, we're fast on the break and would leave Puyol for dead at the back. Barca still play 2010 style football, its outdated.

21 Mar 2014 11:21:06
Who does everyone think we should sign for the three position mentioned on this site in the summer
My choices would be shaqiri, Moreno., Kampl
would also like ed 001 opinion
P.S please don't give unrealistic choices such as costa, Isco, Shaw

21 Mar 2014 12:37:22
Moreno is UNREALISTIC, as Ed02 has pointed out on many occasions.

Kampl, we could find a half decent player better than Kampl in the PL for a decent fee.

Shaqiri will a very good signing if we can get him.

My choices would be: Caner Erkin, Konoplyanka and Roberto Firmino.

21 Mar 2014 12:28:07
I think it depends 100% on who leaves.

I'd like Caner Erkin, Pedro Rodriguez and Suso (recall).

I don't see the need to spend big on a midfielder now. We need a new left back and a forward to replace Moses and actually compete with Sterling.

Konoplyanka appears to be a mercenary after any big move, Moreno will probably go to Real Madrid and Kampl (although a great shout) is not needed in my opinion. It'd certainly be "goodbye Suso". I would mainly like a keeper to fight Mingolet for a starting role to be honest. Shaquiri again is a good shout and I'd love him. I just rate Pedro slightly higher. We should have signed Friedel when he left Blackburn. That is what we need. A Friedel/Schwarzer/Lindegaard. Someone who is a capable duputy and won't cry about sitting on the bench.

Ricardo Rodriguez - Wolfsburg
Kevin Kampl - Red Bull Salzburg
Yehven Konoplyanka - Dnipro

Red Rum

East Midlands Scouser, I don't think you can just say Konoplyanka is a mercenary. It is LFC who have dropped their interest in Konoplyanka, not the other way around. Also, apparently he is very high wages at Dnipro, which I don't know whether Leverkusen, LFC or Spurs can match or would match.

For me:

LB: Erkin. Sandro or Rodriguez would be nice, but even more unlikely than Erkin. I suspect Bertrand might be about it, although maybe just stick with Flanagan/Enrique in that case.

LW: Markovic. Personally I'd love it if we were looking at him, but I have no idea how likely that is. Maybe Ayew? Konoplyanka seems more likely than either though.

CM: Teixera from Donetsk. Another one from the random name pile, admittedly. Optionally I'd be chuffed to get Meyer off of Schalke (which I imagine is unlikely) or Grenier from Lyon (probably also unlikely).

Ibe
smith/robinson
suso

I like Alex Sandro, but I think he will be very expensive; same for Rodriguez.

Alex Teixeira is more of a winger than a CM RDL. I would like him, but he is more similar to Willian than Oscar, if you know what I mean. Just my opinion.

Am I the only one who thinks Shaqiri is a bit lightweight? We have better than him already IMO.

Completely fair, real AG. And agreed about Sandro and Rodriguez. It's really hard to even hypothetically come up with many LBs that both improve the team and are realistic. Anyone happen to know if Danilo ever plays/played/is capable of playing LB?

Can't call Konoplyanka a mercenary guys. I believe he was willing to take a pay cut to join in jam, It was Liverpool who couldn't get it through.

21 Mar 2014 10:23:13
Hey all,

Not posted for a while but kept up with the content.

Questions to ponder, if Liverpool get Champs League, do you think we will keep Suarez?

If Liverpool win the league, will we keep Suarez?

If we get 80+Mil for him and he is sold regardless, who would you want to sign to replace him?

Do you think Suarez would stay? We can do without distractions such as this in the media and concentrate just on the next game.

Kosovo Joe

I think he will stay. If he does leave, I'd like Costa from Atletico. Nobody else is both within our reach, and close enough to Suarez's ability. Costa would only be within our reach if we Qualify for Champions league and sell Suarez though.

21 Mar 2014 11:11:37
if he wants to go fair enough sell him but if its a case of let's take the money just ask the spurs fans what they think we should do.

I think costa will go to chelsea with torres going back to athletico would be a good move for all parties I would think

I don't see LFC selling Suarez this summer.

I honestly think that he wants to stay.

21 Mar 2014 13:26:30
Suarez won't move this summer, Unless its Bayern or Real. And for all those who likes Costa to replace Suarez, How many assist does Costa have in his name?
Suarez isn't just a striker.

21 Mar 2014 15:04:38
Neither is Costa Harry. He actually sets up a lot of goals. He set up loads of Falcaos before he left.

While costa isn't as creative as suarez, he still does assist a lot. When he was the secondary striker to falcao last season, he scored 20 goals and assisted 15. I was pretty surprised when I saw this but he's actually pretty good playing off the main striker, and if we did get him, Costa and sturridge could potentially be another great partnership in the making.

Who can afford Suarez? If he left it'd be players plus cash which isn't good for Liverpool. He's got to be worth around £120m

21 Mar 2014 09:16:47
Hi just wondering if (god forbid) man u won the CL and finished outside the top 4 who would then face the CL qualifiers, Man U or the 3rd placed league team?

{Ed002's Note - This is all been done to death.}

21 Mar 2014 01:25:18
By my calculations [Obviously just estimated and taking into account previous years rankings] Liverpool's Uefa ranking for next season will be around the 55-65 zone. Not good at all no and definitely seed 4 but looking at this years 4 seeds the following teams are in seed 1 who are easily beatable:

Manchester United, Arsenal, Benfica and FC Porto. We have shown we can already beat Manchester united and Arsenal and I'm fairly sure we could breeze past Benfica and give FC Porto a good run for their money.

In Seed 2 there are even more teams that are beatable such as: Shakhtar Donetsk, AC Milan, Schalke, Marseille and CSKA Moscow. 5 Teams there that are definitely beatable and could see us beating them convincingly at home. Hardest name of the group is Paris Saint-Germain but they are possibly going to take Manchester United's place in Seed 1 next season if they get further on.

In seed 3 there are two teams that we would struggle against: Manchester City and Borussia Dortmund. The rest, such as Ajax, Galatasaray, Olympiakos, Basel, Zenit and Leverkusen are definitely easy to beat.

Seed 4 is the bottom of the pile, which is where we will find ourselves. You will be astonished at some of the teams in this category and every single team would love to avoid drawing us. Teams like Steaua Bucuresti, Viktoria Plzen, Real Sociedad, Austria Wien and FC Copenhagen are all teams in that last bracket. Napoli are in seed 4 as well as Celtic and they are teams that are up there with Liverpool in teams you wouldn't like to draw but overall we could easily have an easy group even being in seed 4.

Easiest group would be:

Pot 1: Benfica
Pot 2: Marseille
Pot 3: Olympiakos
Pot 4: Liverpool

We can definitely beat all 3 of them teams at home and Olympiakos have an awful record with English clubs [apart from Manchester United]. Benfica was put to the test for small amounts of the game against Tottenham [who we battered 0-5 away from home] and Marseille are not exactly world beaters.

Worst case scenario:

Pot 1: Barcelona
Pot 2: PSG
Pot 3: Dortmund
Pot 4: Liverpool

Let's just hope that doesn't happen!

I think the main objective next season should be to make sure we get in the champions league again.
If we don't progress far in it next season so be it.

Totally agree LAVERS. The aim next season should be to make sure we get CL football, that is, we finish in Top 4, while at the same time try and go as far as we can in CL.

Hi mate,

Just a heads up that we can't be drawn against other English teams in group stage. I also think it is wrong to suggest that having teams like schalke, ac Milan, benfica. We have no idea how good they might be next year, we have gone from from 7th to second in a year.

Take city into account and who they got in their first few CL groups.

I think on our day we could give anyone a game especially at anfield but being in pot 4 means we will have our work cut out for us

21 Mar 2014 09:45:21
Milan wouldn't do any harm, benfica is a superb team.

Spot on LAVERS

21 Mar 2014 10:45:13
i wouldn't worry too much about it let's just enjoy getting back in and take each game as it comes the way we are playing personally I think we are playing at a level of top 8 in the whole of europe with a few good additions in the summer hold on to our top players i'm confident of getting top 2 in any permatation giving.

Completely agree with Tommy Irish Red, let's enjoy getting back in and then let our football do the talking.