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21 May 2015 22:47:53
Eds - Can I just ask, can/have Liverpool spoken to Sterling without his bell of an agent being present? Does he actually know who he wants to go to ? Personally I think his name is tarnished now and his agent should be hung drawn and quartered for the way in which he's risking Sterlings future career
{Ed002's Note - Not about any contractual matters.}
21 May 2015 22:39:01
I think a lot of people on here really expect too much from our youngsters. Honestly I can't see many, if any actually making regular starting players, I hope I'm wrong I really do but players like rossiter who imo will never be a regular for Liverpool.
Again, I hope I'm wrong and the likes of flanno can make for good cases (ibe signed from Wycombe, sterling qpr etc)
Realistically who do we expect to make the squad by this time next year?
21 May 2015 23:44:59
Another blanket statement. Just because the manager doesn't believe in them does not mean they don't have chance. Maybe if we saw them in the first team game play, we would b able to form a better opinion with our eyes instead of making comments that lack any logic behind them. We've seen Sterling, Ibe, Flanno, Tex, Kelly and Rossiter play and have done fairly or very well depending so if there are those, then there are others as well.
22 May 2015 00:03:56
Every year we hype players up and become separated from reality!
My personal expectancy is with
Brannigan, o'hanlon, Phillips, dhanda, chirivella, Williams (but even there maybe one will make it as a prem player)
Plenty of others but the wide players have a tough path with the age of the first team and none are really standInG out as exceptional.
I don't hold much hope for rossiter although will love it as he is a scouser, but for his frame he doesn't possess anything that is going to help him avoid that being a probleM With him being a cm. Spearing 2.0. Just not got it all, will be a good mid prem player though :) same feelings with Sinclair, fast but not fast enough to play on the shoulder and strong but not.strong enough to act as a giroud/Drogba. Again got it all but not enough! These two have a lot of developing to do but fingers crossed for them and us!
The scout who brought madger, chirivella & canos to the club, holds very high hopes for the 3 of them. Especially chirivella who he says English football would need a 100 of him to change our culture as he possesses everything a cm needs! Valencia were also very upset to lose him as they believed he was there best talent from the.academy in ten years!
22 May 2015 00:10:29
I think you're right in that we expect too much and youngsters need to be integrated carefully or risk their confidence, however there are a lot like Sinclaire, Ojo, Chirivella, Branagan, Rossiter etc. that have the potential if handled properly (ie. 30mins here and there etc. ).
Thants not saying we can lose Gerrard and Sterling etc. and just go to the definitely need top players to compete at the highest level and to set the benchmark for youngsters to learn from.
22 May 2015 01:41:24
What ever happened to that young welsh kid that got an international cap
22 May 2015 12:20:47
We have plenty of players who can make the grade it depends on how they are integrated. With regard to rossiter being too small, its complete nonsense. Claude makelele was small in stature but was one of the best midfielders in the world in his time. i'm not saying rossiter will be world class but he has the ability and temperament to be an excellent player.
Ojo shows promise as does sinclair and there are others that could make the grade with the right guidance. Something rodgers is too inexperienced to be able to do ala harry kane at tottenham. Despite the impending relaxation on ffp lfc cannot spend £100m every transfer window to satisfy peoples need for a new team every season so we have to start imbedding some of the youngsters into the squad sooner rather than later.
21 May 2015 22:26:09
Eds could a way to negate agents be that the fa - I'm asking rather than assuming they can do anything like this - could put in a contract type that all clubs have to a dear to with the removal of incentives, buy outs, etc just a sheer money per week one, with the obvious rules and regs of being a professional football player outling media duties, fines etc!
Would that in anyway make dealings easier and therefore reduce the need for an agent to demand things put in contracts etc
And is there anyway the fa could adopt an nfl style system for pay ie "16-18 max pay 2.4mil (50k p/w) a year, 18-24 max pay (100k p/w) 4.8 per year, 24-retirement max pay 12 mil (250k p/w) per year" and obviously change it according to increases in revenue for clubs and keep in line with Europe, unlike the rugby were we have a salary cap and France don't so all the players go over there to get paid!
Cheers eds
{Ed002's Note - No, none of that is going to happen.}
22 May 2015 08:02:56
As much as we all say football is a business, and the players will treat it as a job. Meaning they have the right to chase the highest salary, like most of us will do. But in reality, I doubt many of our bosses have to deal with fifa fair play. And the threat of getting a fine for over spending. Yes, they can only spend what they have. But they are allowed to get loans and put in money of their own. Football clubs can't! So, for fifa fair play to work, shouldn't they start with trying some means of capping salaries to players? Then find a way to prevent the super rich clubs from buying players just to keep them on the bench. At the end of the day, its still more a sport than a business! Domination from a few sides will eventually ruin the excitement, which will eventually ruin the "business".
21 May 2015 22:38:22
ive read posts about us needing strikers and i agree but last season we had 3 strikers that were not used and instead BR put sterling out of position in a strikers role and because of this sterling thinks he is bigger than the club and he is demanding all kinds and getting it like his holiday what other club will send a player from the 1st team on holiday, its no wonder sterling thinks he can demand what he wants, well i hope the owners play hard ball and stick him in the reserves untill his contract runs out it comes to a point when pride takes over money,
getting back to the 3 other strikers we had well for me they were not played enough and because of this the team suffered lack of goals, i'm sure if they had been played all season then they would have added more goals to the team and set more goals up, but because BR never used the right players for the right positions we have had loads of trouble its down to him and him alone, why bring in manquillo as a right wing back and then not play him we are paying his wages, instead BR plays other attacking players in that role and out of position, they don't know the little things about the position this is why we have had such a bad season, i do feel sorry for the strikers because i'm sure they wanted to pkay and in very sure they would have dcored more goals than sterling so I've been thinking if BR stays at the club and we get a good striker in or a defender or a right wing back whos to say he won't do the same thing, i'm not so sure, the club can't afford to be run like this for another season because i think we will finish a lot lower, let's just hope the owners do the right thing and hire some one who has vision and will play the players in their correct positions
21 May 2015 22:04:02
Eds,
I haven't read his name anywhere, so I am just picking it out of thin air, Luc Castaignos from Twente as a potential striker. 22 years old, would fit the bargain mentality in terms of age, sort of a failed budding star after his stint at Inter (similar to Coutinho). could be a potential reclamation project that could reap big rewards for little money?? just curious your thoughts.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - None at this time.}
21 May 2015 23:05:40
Do we really need a 'potential reclamation project' right now? Surely the past few seasons have shown we need a better transfer policy than that? For every Philip Coutinho, there are ten Balotellis.
22 May 2015 03:48:02
OR he could be a complete a waste of money that reaps very little reward.( plenty of examples I could mention, all been frozen out for one reason or another) we already have Origi coming in to do that and there's talk of Ings too. what the last 3 years of transfers has shown us is that we need QUALITY right now not quality for 2 or 3 years time. that's the job of the academy.
21 May 2015 21:08:01
Eds is it tru that Fallows and Edwards might be moved on with Monchi coming in, in some capacity? Or at least is the idea being considered?
{Ed002's Note - Twitter again?}
21 May 2015 22:01:21
God I wish it were true. would be the best piece of business we could do this year.
21 May 2015 22:36:00
Is it though?
Sevilla are well run although I know when they were selling players as close as Alberto it was because they had money problems but I don't know wether monchi was at the helm!
My question is the type of players he brings in to Sevilla are;
1/ easier for Spanish clubs because of differences in laws (W/P's & ages youngsters can move over)
2/ have good connections with Barcelona and real for there young offspring and handmedowns!
3/ the players that are there are afew failed prem players (aspas, mbia, rhe lad who went to.reading) bur they all shine over there. My point being with this one is that does he have an eye for talent for the Spanish league and without any experience of the prem could he therefore transfer that to our league?
The other points are more about some.of the players coming in to Sevilla who have done well we might not have any access to, and therefore would limit his reach with scouts etc!
And another is the money side of things you get players go to la lagi for half of what the prem get charged and there for would you still count a lot of his buys as good if you say doubled there price tag?
I'm just raising a bit of the other side of the coin, if someone would set me straight or put my worries to bed then I'm all for monchi 😊 although balague was saying on last weeks revista that he had been ear marked for real/barce! But he had a great connection with Sevilla! So don't get your hopes up yet
Ynwa !!
21 May 2015 23:50:02
Seville is a club I admire a lot and play great footie with a great academy and structure with products like Reyes, Navas, Sergio Ramos, Sergio Rico and Moreno as well as shrewd signings like Alves, Kanoute. Adriana, Julio Baptista, Adriano, Banega and so on. Great club, IMO.
22 May 2015 00:41:00
Austin he brought in gameiro/bacca for less than balotelli and both have 47 goals combined. Sevilla are in their second european final, and done well in the league with those second rate players, you mentioned. They don't have the money yet still doing better than us with less wages and transfers spent.
22 May 2015 04:06:47
They have a plan and structure which has thrived for years.
22 May 2015 07:10:15
From what I understand, Monchi has a done a brilliant job of putting Sevilla on the right path. Would love it if he did the same here for us.
22 May 2015 09:45:22
Would sat years redihio as the sales of navas, negredo, medel, alverto was because they had crippling debts so well run for years wouldn't be accurate and Dorset red I didn't say second rate players what I did say was the players he signed for good fees would of been a lot more expensive had they gone to the prem and there for I said would you still think his buys were good if you say doubled there price tag.
Like example of prem charges, we wanted that Greek ad from.schalke and there was talk of a big transfer fee like 20/25 mil bit the year after or same year he went on loan to Leverkusen.
Gamero cost Sevilla 8/12 mil I think but would lf code a prem team about 18/20 mil. So therefore would you still count him as a good buy. That's all I meant.
And a lot of sevillas buys are failed prem players, so does he have an eye for talent over in our league?
Or would he still sign players like mbia for us?
22 May 2015 13:57:51
Every club has debt BUT the main point of my post was that they have found a way to remain competitive by having a structure and plan in spite of the debt and that is what should be applauded
{Ed002's Note - There are a lot of clubs that don't have debt.}
21 May 2015 20:57:10
Weighing up the departure of Gerrard and Sterling, it's the loss of Stevie's spirit and determination that worries me most. Sterling is looking like a spoilt kid hiding behind a bully of an agent. The shirt means nothing to him. Let him g
o and buy a couple of strikers with the money. It's passion for the club we need, as shown by Flano and Ibe - cheers fellas
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21 May 2015 20:19:58
What do Liverpool need this summer?
1. Striker
To be fair to Liverpool FC, there were no strikers available last summer but not buying this summer will be a disaster.
We need two strikers.
An English striker who can find the back of the net. ** Either Danny Ings or Charlie Austin. **
A continental/south american striker who can do any/all of the things
- can link play if required
- can score from outside the penalty box if required
- can hold the ball up for the wingers/midfielders
- should remain injury free
I have three choices
** Lacazette - I think we can get him if we want him. If we don't do it this summer, he will be gone.
Logic - He needs first team assurance which none of the top 4 can provide this summer. With Euros, next year he may not move without first team assurance.
** Vietto - He is my choice. He is fast and can really shoot from distance. He is Argentine and I think he is really mobile with good movement.
Practically it will be risky tbring him in.
** Bacca - He is good and pacy. Though he is not really a number 9 but he isn't bad. Best part he doesn't get injured often.
2. Midfielders/Wingers
In this department I would prefer James Milner and a left footed midfielder and a left footed winger.
The reason we should seek two left footed players is because a left footed player in midfield really opens up the pitch and creates angles which the opposition can find difficult to handle.
Someone like Verrati or Kondogbia would be good example of the kind of player we should look for, not necessarily them.
A left winger is imperative because of Rodgers tendency to overload the left. The opposition knows nothing will come in from the right. Hence a left winger.
3. Right Back
A quality right back. No big name but a solid right back with a decent final ball should be fine.
4. Back up GK
I don't much is required here.
21 May 2015 21:31:24
We have an English striker in sturridge zo I wouldn't count that as a necessity!
Those strikers are never happening, except for bacca who I don't really know much about as there are not many Sevilla games on except for Europa (maybe watch next Thursday's game)
Ojo is the left footed player I would bring through, its not a necessity and if we were to purchase one, it might block the line for ojo! Again though we wouldn't need one like downing ie to cross the ball, because we have noone to target!
I agree we need a defensive mid but with brendans refusal to play Lucas suggests to me he does like that deep midfielder to be of a play make type rather a defender, like can isn't a defensive mid but he can play a pass! But both kon and veratti are of the more aggressive midfields but verratti is Allen but more consistent and of a higher level he's certainly not a dm to break up play, I would love him though!
And a rb for sure but someone 28-30 as we have a lot of talent for that position in the ranks and it wouldn't require clyne for say 20/25 mil as we have a lot of players who can slot in until one of the younger crop are ready!
And gk is an absolute priority, mignolet is nowhere near good enough, regardless of goals conceded, we have actually had to change our style of play to suit him and therefore we lump the ball up to noone and continue to have the opposing team hurtling towards us over and over.
Striker - the best our budget and principles can buy. **must be injury free or a great track record! Its not even about goals but more you can't build a system without a striker and a gk! Someone like drog in his pomp with the right system would bring all our other players to life, look at giroud at arsenal (yeah at some point they need to improve that position to win a title bur still with the same sort of player)
Wings - ojo and if sterling goes pedro (as would give us maybe 2/3 good years and then leave the slot open for one of the kids to come through or step up (ibe,Marko) )
Rb - arbeloa/rangel etc
Gk - cech (number one 20 million pound 200k a week choice) but others are avalible but must be coming in as number 1 not number 2 or you end up with jones! Cech & ward for me (hopefully the stigma of young gk is breaking with the top young talent getting chances there coutios, de gea, ter stergen!) ward does look top notch!
21 May 2015 21:34:03
A new manager.
21 May 2015 21:44:36
In the entire world of football, there were no strikers available last year? Seemingly bizarre statement.
21 May 2015 22:02:06
I agree RDL - I stopped reading after that point.
I appreciate we may sometimes shop at a level lower than some (but appear to still overpay for some players when there level is lower than their price tag). But BR / Transfer committee seem to be able to buy square pegs for round holes then play the square pegs in a triangle system!
21 May 2015 22:14:55
Bacca would be a great get!!
21 May 2015 23:55:12
There was Bony and Remy who were virtually ready to be bought but BR either dithered on one as in Bony or rejected as in Remy so that debunks that first paragraph, right there. Bony would have been a great improvement on the dross strikers hope did get in so saying there no strikers in the world that could have improved us is just intellectual bankruptcy at its worst.
22 May 2015 07:26:52
Liverbird, an English striker, either Ings or Austin? Why don't we just give Sinclair the opportunity? It does my head in that we don't look to what we already have here first and give them an opportunity.
22 May 2015 10:53:28
Sinclair wasn't there last season plus he needs a to spend a season on loan.
Obviously we did not go for Remy last season.
Bony is not a striker with pace or constant movement, which is what Rodger's teams need. He is phenomenal but falls into the Andy Carroll style of player. I like him but he wouldn't have impressed us.he isn't much different from Balotelli except he doesn't sulk and is a team player.
22 May 2015 14:04:02
And Balo and Lambert have pace? Nonsense! Bony would have improved us with Stering Lallana and Couts around him and that is a fct, if compared with the dross he currently bought who combined, are not better than Bony.
21 May 2015 20:15:27
Eds, there's a few sites saying that we had a £14.4m bid for Vidal rejected recently. That's quite a specific number to be totally BS. but is it? If it's true it would be another example of the embarrassing type of low bids we've been putting in over the last few years - he's worth a lot more, so why not bid a sensible amount to start with? Cheers
{Ed002's Note - That would have equated to €20M a few days ago - a little over half the asking price.}
21 May 2015 21:09:15
Well at least Rodgers can't get the blame for that. What is the objective of putting in such low bids? I just don't get it at all! Not that Vidal would have accepted anyway.
21 May 2015 21:41:14
Start low and hope we don't anger the other team is our philosophy!
To be fair we don't have the money to go in with a huge bid, but imagine we bid 40m and (not that we would find out like) could of gotten the player for half of that! So I do understand it, but what I find is we start low with no intention to go higher, it would be alright if we would go to the acceptable amount!
Makes me feel like brendans asked for said player and the club do a bid like that and then go back and say "oh we tried" lol
21 May 2015 22:42:39
Start low and work up like with Lallana. Or take it as it is and completely false. Ed002 stated a few days back Vidal won't be joining Liverpool just like with Depay with United no point even getting our hopes up that we could be linked with a top player like Vidal
21 May 2015 23:16:22
Very much believable considering Liverpool's transfer tactics of joke bids to annoy the 'selling' club
21 May 2015 19:56:03
I'm not an anti-Brendon guy. But our team needs steel, passion and aggression. Klopp would bring this.
Player wise we lack the same Can, Hendo and Skertl show some but need experience.
I agree with some pundits that we require a manager not a coach developing youngsters, but that's exactly what the Fenway group want though.
21 May 2015 20:28:17
The thing is, I really want Rodgers out because I don't think he is taking us in the right direction but in an ideal world he never would have been a manager and would be a coach under a better manager at Liverpool.
He is absolutely a fantastic coach, it is such a shame he lacks the skills to manage a top team effectively.
21 May 2015 20:51:29
Skrtel should not be included in that list and needs to be gone along with the manager who thinks he is our best CB.
21 May 2015 22:00:34
BR unceremoniously pushed our best defender out of the club for peanuts, then spent £40m trying to replace him
21 May 2015 22:41:23
Agger had to me moved on regardless because of his injury record (unreliable in the long term) I know sakho hasn't been much cop with the injuries but that was the thinking behind agger!
And to be fair to the boy it does seem like we didn't push for a high transfer so he could go back to bronby! As I'm sure there were buyers our there for him even at 6-9 mil!
21 May 2015 23:57:31
I agree that his legs were gone but BR froze him out and forced him out eventually with his style of mismanagement
22 May 2015 07:29:17
I have never been a massive fan of Agger or Skrtel, but the way BR forced Agger out of Liverpool was ridiculous.
22 May 2015 14:04:30
Digraceful!
21 May 2015 19:55:45
Managers and Modern Football
Iv been thinking a while about BR being possibly sacked. I supported him through the season but really wouldn't be surprised if the club decided to let him go. I mean look around.
At all the clubs where expectations are really high (in terms of past success, fan base, the money splashed on transfers and the team available, ) managers have faced crisis:
Klopp with Drotmund, Ancelloti with Real, Pepe with Bayern, Moyes at United, Mourinho at RM 2 season ago, Mancini at City. (Exceptions like Wenger and Fergie of course)
In many a cases it has been unfair. I mean Real Madrid reached the semis of champions league and second in LaLiga, but he may still end up being sacked.
Even Liverpool for that matter, this season could have been a whole lot different if we had a good striker. It still puzzles me no end that BR did not push for a top striker in the summer and January transfer windows.
Maybe these days 2-3 seasons is all a Manager gets to show something substantial. The time of managerial eras may well be over.
If a Manager loses the plot ( like BR did this season) fans are within their rights to demand a change.
No manager can guarantee success and nobody can deliver season after season. So inevitably almost every manager will fail and may get fired.
No hard feelings to BR if he is sacked. I still respect him and contrary to what everyone may say and what we all feel right now, LFC is doing better than what it was 3 years ago. So please give credit where it is due, but BR did make some mistakes this season and if the owners decide to sack him then so be it.
P.S let's not even talk about the failings of the so called transfer committee (if BR is fired then so should everyone on that committee)
and the Sterling saga.
21 May 2015 20:30:54
To be frank, I don't think the famed "Transfer Committee" bought badly last summer with the exception of Balotelli. Even when seen in isolation, Balotelli is not as bad as Brendan Rodgers and the British media have made him to be.
Lets rewind and think again. Start of the season, Brendan was singing songs about all the players bought. I don't think he played any of them in the position where they have played all their life. The only exception is Lovren and guess what, I don't think he is that bad either.
If you are allowed protection of two defensive midfielders and your new club then decides to put just Steven Gerrard in front of you, then you are in trouble. His confidence was shot to pieces with weeks in Liverpool.
I am really torn to say that we should let Rodgers go because if he sets up the team well till Chrsitmas, his second half record can win him the Premier League. But he if a really big IF.
Even if he survives the summer, he may not survive the winter. WINTER IS COMING.
21 May 2015 21:16:10
To be fair, I think Rodgers has been treated better than most clubs as he is still in the job! A lot of other owners don't take this long to review a managers position. Not sure which way FSG will go but at least Rodgers can't say 'they didn't give me a chance to prove them wrong' (even though deluded Brenda would)
21 May 2015 22:12:25
The Liverbird - if you was a manager would you have put Gerrard in that position in the first place if everyone knows he can't play that position? If he was being phased out would you buy a replacement? would you play that replacement in Central defence or Right back whilst loaning and selling two other right backs on the books.
Who out of the players bought last year have played 10-15 games in their natural position? Then say that we bought well last year.
If you say Balotelli - then playing a game when the striker runs into space is not Balotelli does - unless to let off a firework or post on twitter.
8 players - possibly only Moreno playing in his preferred position, 115m spent - not good.
Don't get me wrong, I think Lallana, Markovic, Moreno (can has already come good) will be good signings but don't play them out of position constantly - why buy them in the first place.
22 May 2015 00:03:01
BR will say he wasn't given enuff time because nothing is ever his fault. Also,he kept saying we won't do a Spurs yet we have done worse than them and may end up behind them ater the season. What will he say then? As usual, he'll blame global warming and the owners' WAGS or the toothe fairy. He's a failure and FSG had better act or he will cost them more money than he currently has.
21 May 2015 19:54:38
Dear sir
I am writing to complain that a small child bullied.His name is Raheem I believe,I am reading that just wants to play football all day long and win prizes. He can't stay in his present placing as people are shouting at him and it's really not his fault. He thought he might win some prizes this year but forgot to turn up in champs league and semi final. He not interested in money not even if you paid him £900,000.00 a day, really. He just wants to play and play all day long with his mates. Preferably with his London mates who he hasn't actually met yet. Don't be mean to Raheem # he is only 20 which means he is just a kid really in football terms . I appreciate 20 is an adult in the normal world but poor little Raheem is not normal, he needs prizes and wants to be loved. Just not by you
If you would like to sponsor Raheem speak to his agent. Please don't be put off if he calls you a knob and says he hates all you represent. He is just doing his job
So let him go and play that's all he wants remember#dontbemeantoraheem
21 May 2015 21:01:52
Nice.
I am curious though, is twenty a 'kid'?
Or is it because he's a short arse and looks young?
He's old enough to be labelled a 'professional, and he's old enough to receive nice wages, and he's old enough to slap a few people around, drive a Rangie etc etc.
This 'kid' label is doing-the-rounds a bit lately and it doesn't wash with me.
I wish the lad the best of luck as any player is entitled to leave a club, but he's a big boy now and as he's made his bed, he must lie in it.
Judging by the way he's acting though (which in ways is very childlike for a twenty year old MAN), my lads got a Thomas The Tank Engine bed here he can have.
21 May 2015 21:53:59
At twenty years of age I was on my second tour of Northern Ireland at the height of the troubles as an infantry NCO & patrol commander.
20 is not a kid.
22 May 2015 00:04:41
You were still considered a kid at that age and your noble experience and the fact that you had responsibility at an early age, does and will not change that fact.
22 May 2015 00:26:44
That's right red, 'kids' in the forces are soldiers like the rest, 'kids' who vote are just voters, 'kids' who play football are pampered, spoilt and apparently are unable to make their own decisions because their brains are still spread out on a table in an Albert Dock booth.
21 May 2015 19:53:18
I am writing in this forum after a long time.
First things First. Raheem Sterling.
I have no affection or antipathy towards Raheem Sterling for not wanting to sign a new contract.
For me he is not a pivotal player. But why Liverpool cannot afford to let him go is because of the policy which we have decided to base our future on. Chelsea and Man City have no inclination or will to blood youngsters. So they buy English/British players from other clubs. FSG want to have young players from the academy in the first team. After a decade of ignorance, LFC is willing to give chance to youngsters because of FSG. Its a healthy and important policy because it gives the team freshness, energy and the unpredictability of the youth. If local lads feature, then even better.
Selling Sterling to any of the top four clubs will mean that we will not be taken seriously by these clubs or the young players (plus their agents) in future. So for the protection of our policy (plus framework) going forward, we must put our foot down and not sell Raheem Sterling.
Next pre season will then be a good time to decide what we want to do with him.
I think there are big takeaways from the Raheem Sterling saga for FSG. The first thing they need to do is to protect their investment.
1. While offering contracts to young players, they should be five year contracts (which they do currently). The focus should be a 3 + 2 rule. If the player refuses to sign a contract after the third year, they should be played as reserves in the cup games, if unavoidable. If Liverpool can pay Borini, Johnson and Enrique not to play, why can't they do the same to Sterling?
2. Every contract should have an unreasonable buy out clause. (Eg. Ibe's current buy out clause could be 70 million pounds)
3. We should stop doing business with the top 4 clubs. We must not buy from them (because currently we can't) and we must not sell them our players. We should be notorious to negotiate (or impossible like Bilbao).
Many other feelings at the moment but will write soon again.
21 May 2015 20:57:48
Agreed mate
21 May 2015 16:33:42
Ed001 I stumbled on a reply u made on the arsenal page where you said you expect big changes at Liverpool in the next few weeks don't worry i won't ask you about the specifics of it rather is it a change for the good or bad ?
{Ed001's Note - only time will tell on that, it depends on how the changes pan out as they all come from the review.}
21 May 2015 20:05:42
Hey eds.
Might be a silly question, so shoot me down if need be. But do footballers necessarily needs agents? don't the FA, if needed help footballers with contracts and moves etc?
Cheers
{Ed002's Note - They are not required to have an agent. The FA would not have any involvement in contracts.}
21 May 2015 19:32:10
One good thing about sterling fiasco I bet balo is feeling unusually popular at the moment
21 May 2015 18:16:18
Sell sterling and get konoplyanka on a free, or nobody at all. Or just don't sell sterling and convince him to sign a contract. I really don't care. He's not exactly carried us has he? And while he does have huge potential i'm kind of sick of the word so i'd probably prefer a developed player like konoplyanka.
Personally, i believe sterling is taking too much flak for this. I mean it is within his right to request a transfer, and i respect his decision, nothing wrong with that. I think a lot of fans forget these players are PEOPLE. They have families, dreams, aspirations and lifestyles too you know. Most fans seem to think they are nothing more than puppets, and that because they play for the team you support, they owe something to the fans, and the fans feel they have a right to comment on what players do with their lives. It really winds me up.
The main factor in making sterling believe this hype however has to be rodgers.
Remember when we had all this when sterling first broke into the team? You know, when rodgers was actually still sane?
What did rodgers do? Took him out of the team, stopped relying on him, and forced him to work in the reserves to protedt him from the hype. Good man management.
However now, rodgers' response to the hype has been to basically admit we rely on sterling, play him all game every game, make him un-dropable and even go so far as to play him completely out of position just to cram him into the team. Then go on to the media every single day about how he is the 'best young player in europe' and basically compare him to a demigod.
Who can really blame sterling for believing the hype after that treatment? We have ALLOWED him to hold us to ransom. When i say we, i mean rodgers.
So we have a horrendous season and obviously sterling with his new found hype wants to leave brodgers and glen johnson behind. You know, because h e thinks he's better than that. Who can blame him when you have to play under that muppet?
Rodgers bizarrly takes offence to this and feels he has a right to bully a player about in a situation he has created in front of the media. Truly disgusting behaviour from all parties involved really. Reason number 2628 why rodgers should leave. Its getting boring now.
21 May 2015 18:50:46
My car got a flat today, I so totally blame no other than Brendan frigging Rogers!!
21 May 2015 20:04:49
Rodgers didn't tell his agent to act like a muppet did he.jeez
I know he is not our fav manager but he is not responsible for everything. Sterling can tell his sodding agent to shut the hell up and deal with his transfer with some dignity.
21 May 2015 20:08:15
If you sell sterling you can always buy nani of us for the proceeds of his sale
21 May 2015 21:02:55
John B I reckon it's 50/50
Both parties could of behaved better.
Like the op says a right mess.
21 May 2015 21:13:42
And nobody told BR to stick his mouth in it and tell the media that he was offered a "fantastic" contract, did they? not blaming BR for everything BUT to say he had nothing to do with this is just moral bankrupcy. He, the club and even SG, have handled this as a collective debacle and the agent running his mouth and trying to make a quick buck while taking advantage of a naive youth won`t change that.
21 May 2015 22:37:33
Nobody said brendan was blameless i certainly didnt, but since he said that i have not heard him say anything further. The pundits wound up the agent and got his back up not rodgers, he could have kept his mouth shut and dealt with the club behind closed doors. He could have not advised his client to make an ill judged interview either. Its always a two way street. Now on me wanting rodgers out well i have been un equivocal about that and purely for footballing reasons. i'm not interested in his love life, white teeth, sun tan or toilet habits.
22 May 2015 00:09:46
I agree, John! You are blaming the wrong guy as in the agent because you can't control what he does nor says because clearly, the bar is not very high in terms of intelligence. However, we as a club, can control what we do and how we conduct our business and we messed up on that and BR, SG and the club are responsible for this. Can't blame something on what you have no control over.
21 May 2015 17:57:07
Ibe, Flanagan sign new deals.
Some positivity at last. Hopefully they'll all get much more game time next season.
21 May 2015 18:40:27
Everyone else is signing, only sterling who isn't 😊 well anyone we want to sign is signing!
21 May 2015 17:06:56
Hello Ed,
Its been reported that Sterling's agent has said he wouldn't be signing a new contract, and that LFC have now cancelled their meeting with him. Is there any truth in this news or is it again LFC leaking out news to the media to make Sterling look like the villain here?
Thanks a lot in advance!!
Ashish
{Ed002's Note - The meeting has been cancelled tomorrow.}
21 May 2015 19:37:43
Suarez and his agent were not even such tools when Suarez wanted to take the Arsenal offer. Not to worry though Sterling cost us next to nothing, we have everything to gain by selling him.
Out of Ibe, Ojo, Wilson, Canos, Kent we will develop a handful of great players over the next two-three seasons, hopefully they show more loyalty when the time comes.
22 May 2015 00:14:51
You might wanna check your facts about Suarez and his agent's antics because his agent was courting clubs like Juve, PSG and Arsenal while he was crying about leaving us all over the media for months to the point of threatening legal action. He was just as big a nuisance as Raheem's agent.
21 May 2015 16:15:18
Tried search function, eds how do u rate our current midfield?? It was pretty much non existant in a lot of games this season.
Secondly of our current crop of mid
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has some decent midfield players.}
21 May 2015 19:11:18
Just need a passing midfielder to dictate the play.
Red Rum
21 May 2015 23:04:02
Can, brannagan & Henderson 😉
Coutinho lw
Ibe rw
Sturridge st
That ^ has it all 😊
21 May 2015 16:08:26
Hi Ed!
Looking to see if LFC is actually looking into Vidal?
Is there any interest in charlie austin?
Thanks
{Ed002's Note - No, and not from Liverpool right now.}
21 May 2015 15:07:36
Hi Eds,
Can you elaborate on your view that Brendan Rodgers has lost the dressing room? Raheem Sterling is the only one who is openly upset but that seems more of an anti-Liverpool thing than specifically anti-Rodgers. The names I've seen that are supposedly upset are hardly players that are being hard done by. I'm just wondering what's the real situation which isn't being reported in the media?
{Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure I have never said Brendan Rodgers has "lost the dressing room". However, if he makes his way to the pitch (the green bit in the middle of the stadium) and goes down the tunnel, he will find the dressing room at the top of the stairs on the left.}
21 May 2015 20:15:05
Class response that Ed002, 😃
21 May 2015 13:56:28
Hi Ed's, a question if you will. On the LFC official website, on every story there appears to be a few (or single) posters spouting on about the sale of LFC to FSG and how it was corrupt and the sale was done through RBS etc. I'm not asking you to go into detail of finance etc, but is anything this person says true? It's more curiosity as I see the posts every time and whoever it is seems adamant. Thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - No, you go there and respond to Mr Hicks and him Ed002 says it is nonsense.}
21 May 2015 12:53:51
Hi Eds, you've previously mentioned the Webster Ruling, Article 17, in regards to Sterling buying out his contract. I thought the player has to inform the club two weeks before the end of the season of his decision to implement Article 17? Has Sterling actually done this? Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - It is not related to the end of the season but three years after he signs his contract - hence the mid December date.}
21 May 2015 17:44:35
If sterling goes would pedro be an option?
21 May 2015 18:16:53
You'd hope if Barcelona could buy a player in but they can't till January so I imagine they will hold on to him, unless they are comfortable with the progress of someone like (the lad who signed with Everton (GD). - I know his name but having a nightmare spelling it haha)
{Ed002's Note - Pedro is available this summer.}
21 May 2015 19:01:58
Well we could hope as that would be an idea replacement for what sterling offers us now 😊
21 May 2015 23:05:42
Any interest from barce in sterling?
Be great if we could throw him over there and get pedro our end! No worries about him going to one of our rivals then 😊
{Ed002's Note - No.}
21 May 2015 17:40:13
Hello all and Eds (thanks for your work as always too).
It maybe only be me, but hope not. All this negative talk of LFC is driving me mad. I agree there are many many issues and agree that Rodgers who i backed completely has made some major, if not inexcusable mistakes, but so many of you are destroying the clubs chances next season if Rodgers stays.
I think he should go and i would love to see only a world class manager take over but some posts are just desperately negative!
We purchased several players, some of which have not been great, but how many times have we seen players struggle in their first season with a new club, regardless if they played in another league or the same!!??
We have still got a really great core. and all this saying how Lallana, Lovren, Markovic are not good is stupid IMO. Marcovic is young and very talented-although he needs to work on his final pass/contribution. Lallana is starting to show what he can do and Lovren should be used more often and in the correct place.
I honestly think we will be much better next year even without any big signings and even if sterling goes and we replace him with sponge bob square pants!
It wouldn't surprise me at all to see us finish in top 3 at all. but as i said i agree with have huge issues, but seriously don't like all this slagging off players abilities
21 May 2015 18:12:34
Top 3 finish next season wouldn't surprise me either, even with Sterling going. And I do agree that there's more talent in the squad than has generally been shown this season.
However, I've come to the conclusion that Rodgers is very likely to undo any good work he does because of his pattern to date of not planning things long and medium term and to-and-froing on players (I can rattle off plenty of examples). I said it a couple of days ago, our likely future medium to long under him is to filter in and out of the CL places. So we could well be third next season. But then we'd be equally likely be sixth the season afterwards, then fourth, then sixth again etc. etc.
tl;dr I don't see him as someone who's likely to build the squad up and improve us continually in the long term.
21 May 2015 18:19:05
Remember that we'll be without our 2 top scorers from this season by then. There is much work to do now and through the summer for us.
21 May 2015 18:23:35
There were two ways last summer was always going to go!
Smooth and no problems or a year before we see what we bought!
Next year we will be fine! Regardless of how 'bad' Rodgers is, he has shown with the right tools he can challenge for the title!
With either or both the best gk and/or st we can afford we will be just fine!
Good thing is if Brendan stays the expectation levels will be down and therefore the pressure won't be as bad and just watch us fly 😊
You can save this eds and show it at the end of next season! Just to show all Liverpool fans aren't negative and/or clueless!
Or I'm wrong and ill never be able to post on this webpage again haha
This is my Alan Hansen moment! Wish me luck.
YNWA!!
21 May 2015 18:40:40
Something red, the ONLY reason we are in the position we are now is that rodgers has undone all the good work prior to this
season.
442 diamond? Nah scrap that, let's bring in the proven failure of the 433 slow boring passing again.
Skrtel and johnson lose us the league? let's just continue to play them then.
Young players make an impression on the team? Well let's not give more of them a chance, but buy lots of players for lots of money to force them out of the team.
Players show potential? let's just loan them out then.
Buying unproven talent for lots of money didn't work last time? let's do it again then.
Sturridge is injury prone, maybe we should find someone as a like for like replacement? No let's just refuse to buy bony or remy and get balotelli instead.
I could go on but i wont.
21 May 2015 19:29:58
The diamond wasn't sustainable through a whole campaign and it was already starting to get figured out at the end of last season!
Bony wouldn't of done much for us either way, don't act like he would of been fantastic for us! The problem is when the options are bony, Remy and ballo and he is potentially picking the one who he thought will work best for sturridge! Which bony wouldn't of succeeded with!
If the options were ballo, lacazette and vietto then yeah he dropped the ball but the options were pretty dire anyway!
YNWA
21 May 2015 19:34:37
Yeah, Woolly, that's pretty much why I think he'll just wreck anything good he does in the future. Because he already has.
(That being said, dropping the diamond isn't something I'd give him much stick for. When we played with it, we relied on unsustainable bursts of tempo and energy at the start and sometimes at the end of matches and we were usually second best for the rest of the game, even against average teams. Considering how many close calls we had, it's miraculous that we got as far as the Chelsea game before losing. The real issue was he didn't have a clear idea on how to replace it, but that's another debate).
21 May 2015 17:36:37
Whilst I agree Sterling and his agent are greedy chancers, well out of order and the slagging of Carragher in the press is probably the final nail in the coffin, you also have to consider that he possibly is serious about what he says - that he wants to win trophies. Which in turn means he doesn't see this happening at Liverpool. Personally, I think Sterling is the tip of a very big iceberg, there's more going on that isn't in the public domain (yet) and that Rodgers does not command the respect of the dressing room anymore.
21 May 2015 18:20:59
well yes, basically that is what Ed01 said, i mean in terms of the tip of the iceberg. Hope he is way off. but doubt it
21 May 2015 18:28:48
The trophies is utter crap!
In 3 years, and only 1 1/2 as a real starter he has almost won the league and been in 2 semi finals!
I know you dint win anything for finished second eds but we are showing more than other that we are at least close to winning trophies again!
The age of the squad aswel is huge as is the commitments of everyone apart from him! If we get a top striker in apart from Gerrard and jonno we can put that title challenging team together again! And we still have ibe, Marko, lallana, can, Moreno, origi, lovren and a fully fit (fingers crossed) sturridge to add!
He's talking a load of nonsense! Its getting his move before he doesn't reach this so called "POTENTIAL" and isn't able to get the big pay check!
21 May 2015 18:29:17
So it's ok to have a 20yr old very raw player ruin the dressing room?
21 May 2015 18:51:10
Mighty Reds, Is it a 20 year old that is ruining the dressing room? Or is it more likely a fake-tanned teeth-bleached clown? Is Sterling in fact actually a symptom as opposed to the cause.
21 May 2015 20:14:14
Red Lenin you are going on what rumours there is, but it's up to Rodgers to get rid of the bad eggs and do things his way. Who's to say that Sterling isn't the problem?
21 May 2015 21:10:23
You always back the manager over players. Sterling and his agent is a good example why this rule is correct.
22 May 2015 00:18:18
I will never back a failure of a manager especially one who has greatly contributed to this debacle. That is just blind faith. A manager is nothing more than a transient employee but the club will remain after he's gone.
21 May 2015 17:31:01
I see lloyd jones has signed a new deal. club must see a future in him to offer a new deal.
21 May 2015 17:22:40
Silent majority
We have done remarkably well without a centre forward, 5th in league.
15-25 from a fit forward and another would be totally different
Buys
We won't know until next season . it takes time
21 May 2015 18:23:27
its nice to read a more positive post! We have problems but i agree if we had a good striker we would have done a hell of a lot better
21 May 2015 18:30:14
Exactly! We have done it this year without a superstar like everyone above us (someone who has carried us) and without a striker (like everyone above us)
21 May 2015 19:42:41
Pete, that might be an excuse except for the fact that we do have a center forward.
Actually there are no less than five senior center forwards on our books (ie. excluding Sinclair, Yesil etc.). All of them signed by the current management, and only one of them, who had an established record of being injury prone, btw, was injured long term this season.
So why weren't any of the other four good enough? Buying five forwards and only one of them being any good is not good management.
22 May 2015 00:24:37
We bought strikers who can't get a game yet you all say we did it without a striker or better yet we did it with strikers who either can't score or are sicknotes. What did we achieve exactly? Dropping from second to fifth with over 117m spent? What progress is that? We should not mix positivity with mediocrity. I am always positive because if not, you will die early but I will never accept mediocrity nor make excuses for it and neither should any fan of this troubled yet great club
21 May 2015 14:54:04
E001 or Ed002 do you think the owners would approach Ancelooti to ask if he's be interested in the LFC job? Of course this is jumping the gun a bit but do you think they'd try to guage interest, or would this be done only after a manager were to leave?
{Ed001's Note - approaches would be left until after.}
21 May 2015 18:05:03
Would you think he would be of consideration Ed01? After that is?
{Ed002's Note - Don't hold your breath.}
21 May 2015 18:53:43
Thanks Ed001.
21 May 2015 16:10:33
A bit of a strange transfer season so far and a lot of warning signs. The never ending Sterling saga is likely to dragg and dragg and overshadow the whole summer.
In the meantime, every name that is mentioned in connection to us seems to be almost desperate to suddenly sign for another team.
There were a lot of talks for weeks about Depay and us and then within one day he went to United. Koplonkya was mentioned with us and then out of the blue he agreed a Spurs move (so now it is not only the top 4, we cannot even compete with Spurs, we seemed to become the outcast of the top of the table). Now Vidal, also out of the blue agree terms with Arsenal who weren't even mentioned as candidates to get him (did we really offer only 14 million for him? That is a bit of a joke).
We didn't even finalise the two 'certain' signings Milner and Inges. Our boss go to endless discussions with the owners, reviews are coming and going, the back pages are full of sterling, this will not help to attract talented players. Honestly I don't know what is going to be worse - this summer or the coming season, close contest.
The previous summer ruined us.
21 May 2015 16:56:55
You need to stop believing everything you see in the papers lol
21 May 2015 17:03:13
Where are you getting all this from? Is it all just in your imagination? The TW hasn't even opened yet just relax. Also their names are konoplyanka and ings. you should learn them if you're hoping they make it to liverpool
21 May 2015 17:03:47
Man you need to stop believing the papers
21 May 2015 17:12:49
You would have to wonder at the legitimacy of these rumours first of all, from our perspective, and from others clubs. What's to say Vidal or Martinez are no further to leaving their clubs?
21 May 2015 20:30:55
Fanobip
Good news Vidal is now coming to us fee about to be agreed.
Also benteke wants to sign for us.
Get in there
21 May 2015 15:24:44
With all that's happening with Sterling and his agent does anyone think he'll play against Stoke. I can't imagine he'll get a good reception from the fans
21 May 2015 15:56:03
Nope! He won't even travel :) he will be gone June 1st!
There's a lot more planning gone into all of this!
21 May 2015 16:06:44
The Stoke fans will give him a standing ovation
21 May 2015 16:08:20
The guy and his agent are making themselves look a little silly.
21 May 2015 16:09:30
Only players who want to play for the club should play for the club. He should be suspended without pay. I am sure he must now be in breach of his contract regarding talking to the media - if he isn't then whoever drew up the contract needs shafting with a knob as big as his agent!
Let him go warm the bench elsewhere!
21 May 2015 20:45:35
Perfect opportunity to give Ojo a taste of the good life.
Ojo, Coutinho, Ibe
Gerrard, Henderson
Lucas
Moreno, Sakho, Skrtel, Emre Can
Mignolet
Lambert, Sinclair, Branagan, Markovic, Allen, Lovren, Ward
21 May 2015 14:56:54
With Liverpool having cancelled talks with Sterling and his agent do you expect him to be put up for sale?
21 May 2015 15:31:56
He has to be surely? I want us to keep him but with his agents latest quotes it's not feasible. Let's sell him - but without the ridiculous circus.
21 May 2015 15:58:25
I think there´s two sides to this issue:
1. LFC won´t be bullied around by players, which we saw with Suarez, who were told that he could play with the reserves. Sterling has been badly adviced, by an agent who is more interested in money than what´s best for Sterling career.
2. As most of us know we have lost some good players in the last couple of years, and now we have lost Gerrard (currently our topscorer). It´s important that we find a replacement for these goals. At the moment we aren´t financial stable and using more money would lead to FFP breach, thus LFC must sell to buy. Selling Sterling would raise funds to buy players.
No matter what I think Sterling have put himself in a lose/lose situation. He wants a move to a title winning club, problem is that the current top4, Bayern, Madrid etc. have better players, and he will have to develop fast if he wants to be a part of the starting 11.
21 May 2015 17:08:22
I couldn't care less what happens to Sterling or his agent once he leaves.
21 May 2015 14:55:55
If you haven't seen it already, I strongly advise you to search for the Lego version of our 2005 champions league final victory, created by Ed Boyd to commemorate the 10th anniversary. great stuff
21 May 2015 14:41:31
Liverpool have cancelled tomorrow's Sterling meeting, let him rot on what he's earning for two years,
As for his agent, we'll talk about disgraceful
Things need changing and fast
21 May 2015 15:14:47
If we don't sell himand leave him to rot in your terms what if he invokes the webster ruling??
21 May 2015 16:05:41
This has been a debacle of epic proportions and I blame those involved within the club for not respecting a player and bullying him into signing a contract he is not happy with as if he has no right to decide if the contract is good for him or not and has no right to be happy. All this just played in the agent`s hands and now we are the fools in the media, not the player nor the agent
21 May 2015 17:09:37
Why? Sell him, make as much money as possible, move on.
21 May 2015 17:19:59
Redohio, can you really make excuses now for him? I think we know what he is like by letting his so called reps letting showing him up. There are also rumours that he is the problem in the dressing room. Carra was spot on with his comments.
21 May 2015 17:34:34
Red as much as I want the manager to go and he was very naive bringing this out into the open I can't defend Sterling at all the way he has behaved. The club is much bigger than one jumped up little fella
21 May 2015 14:39:41
Is it fitting that in the new training kit advertisement, Sterling is in it, and is looking away. I'm just so mad with this whole situation I can't stand it.
21 May 2015 14:25:40
Gentleman there's no new liverpool manager coming in.
21 May 2015 14:29:03
So is Rodgers just heading to Boston for a cup of tea with the owners?
21 May 2015 15:30:53
If this were the case, and I think most hope it isn't. It would be Liverpool's worse piece of transfer business this summer.
21 May 2015 15:57:16
Worst comes to worst we finish next season 7-5 and he goes then!
The only way is up with this squad, they ain't going to get worse!
21 May 2015 16:08:05
Kick, how do you know or have you seen Michael Gordon`s findings and recommendations? I reckon you haven`t
21 May 2015 17:04:12
Agree with kick.
21 May 2015 13:59:35
Ed1 do you see us as a mid table team now ?? And who do you rate at lfc currently as a top 4 player who would get into the top 4 sides as a regular . Coutinho been the only 1 ??
{Ed001's Note - depends on what you view as midtable really. I would say we are upper table personally, though finishing 7th (if that happened) would put us midtable.
Again it depends on the side, City wouldn't need Coutinho as they have Silva. Sturridge (when fit), Coutinho, Henderson (maybe) and that is at best. Though Sakho fit and on form is good enough too, nearly forgot him then!}
21 May 2015 14:22:25
Sterling also.
{Ed001's Note - potentially I would agree that him and Ibe are, but right now I don't know.}
21 May 2015 14:26:01
Cheers for the reply . I meant in terms of quality ability as appossed to who would need who . I struggle past coutinhp myself . A fit sturridge also but that he never is . fit .
21 May 2015 15:13:11
Definitely agree with Ed001 here on a fit Sturridge, Sakho and the potential of Sterling and Ibe. I would consider Henderson one of the best centre mids in the league, our player of the season for me anyway (consistency).
If Lallana and Lovren returned to their Southampton form then I'd have them in that bracket too but obviously not from this season's form.
Lucas would be close enough too. On form he'd be a step above Coquelin and he'd be a good squad player for the other teams.
21 May 2015 15:57:28
I doubt it if Henderson would have made it to the starting 11 of Chelsea or arsenal. As for Coutinho see what I wrote yesterday about Oscar who is conisdered more of a substitute in Chelsea and I think it at least s good.
But the one who the hype around is way to big for now given what we have seen from him is Ibe. Yes, he may has some potential - but in the games so far other than taking on defenders and few games and one or two shots on targets we saw very little of him. He is still light year away from Sterling in my view.
Re where we finish next year - I will only say that if Spurs are able to keep Kane and have a decent transfer window (Konoplyanka seem to be alreay on his way) and if they keep their manager I honestly cannot see us finishing above them.
21 May 2015 18:37:17
Coquelin isn`t better than Lucas. IMO, the reason LCoquelin looks good at DM for Arsenal (he`s not even a DM but a converted one)is that Arsenal keep possession of the ball so much that he is not put under that much pressure hence, is able to hide snd thrive in that system which have also made Adebayor, Fabregas, Song, Sagna and so on look good until they move to other teams and get found out as system players and nothing more. I need to see more from him before he gets into the Henry, Pires and even Kolo Toure who succeded outside of that Arsenal system
21 May 2015 13:30:40
Sterling's agent gave him a way to redemption at LFC
Distance himself completely from the remarks and agent. Sign the contract. Apologize and play his heart out.
Sadly won't happen. Money talks and Raheem seems to believe the hype.
21 May 2015 13:42:54
Loyalty means nothing in football, nor does playing time, it's about money (plus maybe a little bit to do with trophies).
If the agent is speaking for Sterling on this issue then I'm sure he will have burnt his bridges with most LFC fans & should be gone in the summer.
Yes, he is a good player but I won't lose any sleep over him going. He's scored goals but I've lost count how many good chances he's missed too.
It will be sad to lose him, especially as he's English but having seen his recent displays his heart is not in it, so cash in on him and give the cash to the manager to buy a striker etc. and hopefully that won't be BR having seen him waste the Suarez money
21 May 2015 14:19:13
Fact we know the agents names is way too much, un-professional spotlight hogging biff.
Understand the club has a lot to answer for but this ward guy must have a huge ego that needs feeding by the media.
Funny enough isn't he berahinos agent also.
Couldnt tell you who Stevie Gerrards agent is.
All no I want to be famous WARDY.
21 May 2015 14:36:33
I think money was going to play a part somewhere down the line, I did think he was going to leave at some stage, and I don't think there's any reasonable info on his actual intentions for a new contract.
21 May 2015 19:32:36
The agent has tried to use RS to futher his agenda and now every EPL club knows who he is and knows how self serving he can be. pity the club would have to share a huge part of the blame for this fiasco because if the club had not messed this up, i think RS would have seen his agent for what he really is. now, it is all up in flames and the situation has become untenable. To me, he`s gone and it`s a complete shame, not that he`s gone BUT for how this fiasco could have easily been avoided.
21 May 2015 13:28:44
Every new news article just makes me cringe a little bit more.
Another situation handled spectacularly badly by all those involved.
What was wrong with the good old days when things where kept in house and if there where disagreements people where quietly moved on.
21 May 2015 13:45:12
People use the media to get stuff done man. LFC used the media to pressure him to sign a contract, it backfired, and his agent has taken this to a whole new level of unprofessional-ness, and has used the media to get him out of LFC so Sterling (and the agent) gets more money. This will not change for the majority of things related to football in this age.
21 May 2015 13:48:44
How many times has Ed1 said it's not about money?
21 May 2015 16:15:49
RedRosie, then I am afraid Ed's 1 is wrong. If it isn't about money for Sterling, it certainly is or his agent
21 May 2015 19:42:27
Money was NEVER the issue. BR and the club tried to bully him into signing a new contract and we know this because BR opend his mouth and the bubble burst. Do you think it is fair to pressure him like the club and BR did in the media? if you think so then I suggest RS leave because this is not the best place for him and in case you don`t know, other players in the DR are looking at this and saying, "Is this going to b my lot if ever I told the club No to what they demanded?" People should ask themselves that before slating the boy for refusing to be bullied by a club and a failure of a manager.
21 May 2015 13:28:24
Rafa to be named Real Madrid boss. Thought he wasn't good enough for us? Still think that? I don't.
{Ed001's Note - he will only be a stop gap.}
21 May 2015 13:45:37
Which gap do you think Brendan will be filling?
21 May 2015 13:50:55
Phew. I had convinced myself that's where Klopp was going.
Keep the faith.
21 May 2015 14:03:09
he is good but i wouldn't want him back
21 May 2015 15:00:48
You know what's coming from the fickle fans if that is so. I've read a hundred times on here that Rafa ruined the club and isn't good enough etc. Get ready for the "we should have gone in for Rafa" or "if he's good enough for Real Madrid. " Etc.
Red Rum
21 May 2015 15:33:42
Actually if Real think Benitez is a better manager than Ancelotti then they're having a laugh. I know which one i would prefer.
21 May 2015 13:36:56
Who are they waiting on ed? Maybe brenda if he gets another year haha
21 May 2015 16:51:05
Real Madrid need a manager willing to take the job for a limited amount of time as Zidane gets himself ready for the big stage. Good new for us as this means Klopp is still on the market. Klopp for the kop!
21 May 2015 17:05:29
They are hoping Zidane proves himself
21 May 2015 17:25:54
Despite the disrespect rafa gets on this site he is a very good manager and i wager he will win trophies there and give barcelona a real run for their money. Some site dour football as a reason for not having him back but having watched napoli this season and valencia before he came to lfc i would say he can set up teams to play attractive expansive football with the right personnel.
21 May 2015 19:40:32
Benitez is a top coach imo
21 May 2015 19:44:51
I thought the same thing too because he is a worse manager and less successful than Carlo, a great coach and an even better man, who is well loved by the players, fans AND the media but Rafa is a stop gap so that can be understood.
21 May 2015 13:13:02
Just a post in response to one earlier regarding Sterling and our supposed interest. I think it's very unlikely we would show any serious interest in him. And quite frankly I hope we never do. I've said it before and I'll say it again he's massively overrated and not worth a penny more than £30m. I don't want him at United. I actually hope he stays with you.
21 May 2015 13:40:28
After the way his agent (and him) have behaved, I doubt he will be at LFC next season.
21 May 2015 13:44:16
I hope we take someone's trousers down for 40 million . I wouldn't deal with Utd ! Heinze etc . Your noisy neighbours will throw us the dosh . We don't even have to wear ski masks or produce any guns
21 May 2015 17:45:49
The beauty of it is that sterling cost us less the a mil, so it shouldn't be a bad bit of business.
Stand united with you getting depay i'd be surprised if you were after sterling, but on the other hand if you could off load di Maria for any where near what you paid you could use that money to get a better player.
21 May 2015 19:23:39
Hear what your saying Lavers on Di Maria, but we need to give him another season. He started brilliantly for us, up until his house got burgled and he seemed to lose his head. He was brilliant for Madird for a few years, he hasn't turned crap over night. If we can get him into a system that suits and he finds form we've got a world class player on our hands. Even despite a poor season his goals and assists are pretty on par with couthino an sterling so when you put it in perspective he should get another year.
Vidic and Evra first season were terrible and they turned out ok. Depay may take time to settle I think
21 May 2015 19:59:00
We will NEVER sell him to you regardless of if he was a 25 yr old world class player so move on.
21 May 2015 12:23:14
Konoplyanka is out of contract does that mean we will be looking at him again.
Also Milner being looked at for central midfield role worries me as Emre Can surely has done enough to make that position his?
{Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}
21 May 2015 12:39:16
Hi going to Spurs
21 May 2015 12:58:16
Or Roma.
21 May 2015 13:24:20
What as Can done to make CM his own position? He needs to learn to pass the ball a lot quicker to have any sort of future in our midfield. Also we don't know how good he is in CM as he as not played much there but when he as, he as not been great there.
21 May 2015 15:40:55
Personally I would have thought that Rodgers being such a good manager, and so tactically aware (by his own reckoning), that once it was known that Gerrard was definitely leaving, and that 4th place was no longer possible, that he would have moved Can into midfield (his preferred position), and given him an opportunity to display his ability (or not) to play the position in the Premiership (afterall, he was bought off the back of playing midfield formerly for Bayern Munich and then Bayern Leverkusen) . but alas not, the great "tanned one" knows best.
21 May 2015 15:43:23
Playing in defence and midfield is a massive different even when considering moving the ball quicker, so I think that's a little harsh on Can in that respect.
As for Milner, he's versatile, can play pretty much any midfield role. As well as fullback and forward roles. Thus, he can hardly be considered a direct CM replacement let alone someone that would immediately leapfrog Can in that position.
I'd like to see Can moved back into midfield, where he feels more natural, but posts like these seem a little pointless until a number of things within the club become clearer.
21 May 2015 20:02:39
"In hi own reckoning" is the right way to qualify BR and his managerial skills, or lack thereof. Can is a midfielder and should play ther and NOWHERE else except we need cover for a cpouple of games. Those saying he can`t pass the ball are judging him as a CB/FB instead of on his true position which is a false argument. Judge him at his best position instead of judging him when he is being badly used.
21 May 2015 12:11:04
No ones bigger than the club. Just get rid. The next Scott Sinclair!! Mind you he scored plenty before his move to City.
21 May 2015 12:32:47
exactly
If this was sterling breakthrough year what would he be worth?
It just happened that last season he was playing up top the with two of the best strikers in the league.
hes got the potential but the wages you're hearing about are rediculous
21 May 2015 12:54:31
I agree that Sterling isn't worth the wages being talked about. I see his agent is being completely unprofessional and making crude comments about Carra and belittling the club. I know Sterling isn't the sharpest tool in the shed but surely even he can see the damage his agent is causing to his reputation? The club also have to take some blame but I can't believe the things his agent is saying.
21 May 2015 12:58:52
Incredibly un-professional stuff.
21 May 2015 13:27:34
I hope everyone in football is very annoyed by this agent because his words don't do football any favours. Whether you like Carra or not, I watched what he said on Monday, he didn't get personal about Ward and stated what most people have been thinking - Sterling is being badly advised. This is the same guy who has been causing problems at WBA with their young player and I hope any club approached by this person about either player tells him to pee off.
Football needs to take a major stand against Agents in general because football has been bleeding money out of the game to these leeches for long enough.
21 May 2015 13:31:57
The only silver lining to selling Sterling is not having connection with this Aidy Ward.
Hope these comments and his growing rep as an embarrassing trouble maker dosent devalue his client. If we sell, we should get what we want, not £10m less cause clubs worry about themselves in a few years time when Sterling wants another pay day.
21 May 2015 20:06:54
It was the job of the club to look after him and take care of his best interests especially after realizing that this agent is a real peice of work. that wasn`t done and the club and BR made it worse by doing all their yapping in the media which has made us the laughing stock. Don`t really care for the agent because like many others, he wants more money for his client hence, more for him. It is the club and BR and SG, I balme for this debacle because had they handled things better, LFC would have looked in a stronger position REGARDLESS of if Sterling left or not, just like we looked good after Torres and Masch left like thieves in the night.
21 May 2015 12:05:37
Eds surely its the end of the line for Stirling now, pity he's letting his agent act like this. i get he doesn't like rodgers but to act like this is completely unprofessional
{Ed002's Note - I have explained before that the matter needs resolving this summer.}
21 May 2015 12:17:38
Seriously, he needs to publicly condemn the agent's words.
This is completely unacceptable and offending. I fear he is getting to the konchesky level
21 May 2015 12:49:59
Stirling Lines is in Hereford.
21 May 2015 11:56:10
Would it be viable and would it set a transfer precedent if a top team refused to deal with agents?
Someone needs to put their foot down here.
{Ed002's Note - In the past an EPL side made an offer to a player and his agent which they considered to be an appropriate offer. The agent put the player in a position where he demanded much more and told the club they would not discuss the issue again until the club put another offer on the table. On returning to negotiate, the player and his agent were presented with an offer that was £5k per week less than the previous offer. The player was eventually sold. In the past, two clubs in the EPL have refused to deal with certain agents, so another representative has had to help the players out.}
21 May 2015 12:20:03
Interesting.
I was thinking, that with the insatiable demand of players to play in the limelight of Madrid or Barcelona, surely it would be a good start if they were to act upon this.
I appreciate that some players haven't got the brains to deal with issues of this nature, and that they prefer their feet to do the talking, not am I criticising all agents as many are decent, but when they become egotistical, greedy and represent much more interests that the player, then you can't help but judge them as anything other that power mad.
21 May 2015 12:51:34
Surely the agent is only 50% of the problem? He is just the mouth for his client is he not? I'm sure Sterling hasn't taken a complete back seat. Yes, footballers a re not known to be the most intelligent people, but give them credit, they know exactly what they're doing.
21 May 2015 17:35:11
Im tending to agree with you stuie and echo what thierry henry has said. Sterling has to man up and make decisions for himself despite what any other party has done. Yes it should not have been aired by rodgers in the first place but likewise raheem knows club policy about press conferences but still did an unplanned interview.
He must have known it would fan the flames, surely he can't be that dense. No comment on his agent, he is just a kn*b.
21 May 2015 20:10:44
Stuie is right. The agent works FOR the player and NOT the other way around. It`s the players I blame for allowing their agents to mess with them all in the name of looking out for their interests. You think Jorge Mendes tells De Gea, CR, Falcao and his other super clients what to do? NO, IMO. He works for them and if he is as volatile as this Ward character, he would be out of a job. The players should step in and take control because in the end, it`s their career while the agent has other clients they can milk for dosh.
21 May 2015 11:21:47
Hi Eds
Haven't posted for a little while. Hope you're well. Couldn't find much of late on the search engine about this but is there any confirmation of Origi coming over this summer and any indication of him joining the squad for the summer tour?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, Origi will arrive in the summer - he will be expected to report back with the players after their vacation.}
21 May 2015 10:22:21
Morning ed's, anything I post now goes straight into other posts, is that because other posters can't handle my musings? Maybe more mainstream (boring posts) are what your after! OK I'll give it a whirl. ed002, will Brendan stiil be in charge in the summer? Oh and what are the chances of us signing ings? I know I know I should RTFP but I can't be arsed to be honest, so save us all the time kid and JATFQ😉
21 May 2015 10:43:54
I thought it was a good topic for discussion, but it was probably the way you worded it why it ended up on the "others" page.
Red Rum
21 May 2015 11:06:17
It's not good though red rum when you have to watch how you word your views to protect the delicate senseabilitys of other posters because they can't take banter on a banter site, the word "mollycoddled", springs to mind.
21 May 2015 11:12:46
Cant be arsed, love the honesty Waro. Lol
21 May 2015 11:35:56
I too have been relegated to the 'Other Posts' section. It's where all the cool kids are anyway.
21 May 2015 16:33:17
Luckily I've not been relegated to the others! God knows what goes on over there with you waro, but got to admit this post made me laugh. I think ed002 giggled too as it made it through. Why can't you be like this all the time 🙊
21 May 2015 07:55:30
Before the Eds slaughter me I know it won't happen and I know transfers don't work this way .
. But hypothetically if a straight swap deal Sterling for Di Maria could be done how would we react to that?
(Again I know it won't, this us Banter)
21 May 2015 10:02:20
Di maria has been shocking this season is he really worth the risk? Also there's his 250 grand a week to sort out.
If sterling is wanting to go then cash in and get ourselves a couple of quality players.
21 May 2015 10:19:43
Would prefer konoplyanka on a free and the majority of the sterling money spent on a quality, proven striker
21 May 2015 10:24:30
I get its banter but it's so unlikely you may as well ask if we had a choice of pele or maradona,which one would we choose to replace joe Allen.
21 May 2015 12:04:32
Yeah. That's equally likely.
21 May 2015 20:12:17
Di Maria was a flop and for 60m, an even bigger flop.
21 May 2015 07:33:33
So eds, the raging question at the moment is still unanswered. Where is Steve Finnan???!
{Ed001's Note - last I heard, he took WonderDogSparky for a walk and hasn't been heard of since..... Seriously though, I really hope someone does find him so he can be there, he was an unsung hero of the Liverpool side back then. Rafa bought player after player to replace him and he just played better and kept his place. Brilliant player.}
21 May 2015 20:18:58
Brought hin josemi and Kronkamp to replace him and he still beat them out for the starting position, to the point of them being sold for a loss. Goes to show how "brilliant" Rafa was in the TW, just as "brilliant" as BR.
21 May 2015 05:16:31
United fan here in peace.
Just read about our inquiry for Sterling in the papers today. In my opinion there must be very little to it, especially after the signing of Depay. We don't need a sterling type of player and if we do go for an attacking mid/wide forward it will be Bale.
Don't read too much into it, must be the agent leaking info or the club doing so to try to prepare ground for him leaving by trying to get the fans onboard.
21 May 2015 07:29:58
Yeah I am sure Sterling would leave us to go to a small club like you.
21 May 2015 07:45:17
Or someone in United just enjoys digging deeper in our wounds for a bit more LFC humilliation. There seems to be no denial that they approaced Liverpool about it and were rejected. Obviously no on in United who approached Liverpool ever thought they woudl get a positive answer but it feels like they enjoyed adding to the liverpool misery party.
21 May 2015 07:50:19
Good.
Let's hope it's true As it will bring on a juicy bidding war to line our pockets.
I'm not bothered where he goes ad long as as we are rewarded handsomely.
21 May 2015 08:07:50
Who cares? If he leaves he's no longer of any interest to me. If he goes to Man Utd or Timbuktu badgers, it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
21 May 2015 08:55:39
I don't really see an issue either, plus United have some decent enough players we could strike up a deal for. I don't believe anything the media say really tbh, and think this Sterling business has probably all been blown out of proportion anyway, but as Ron says it doesn't really matter to me where he ends up, he's not the be all and end all of our team. Let's just concentrate on ourselves and hope the owners pull us out of this mess.
21 May 2015 10:55:26
Sterling to United. Lol.
Red Rum
21 May 2015 01:04:43
You have mentioned various times about the activity of the scouts and transfer committee, and who has been looked at. My question is this, IF we change mananger- to what extent will these plans change? Will we start from zero ??
{Ed001's Note - no, the scouts still find the players just the same, the only difference would be which of those players would be first choice targets.}