Liverpool Banter Archive February 22 2015

22 Feb 2015 23:25:24
Really great result today.

Quick question (not a complaint).

Why did Lovren start on the right with Can switching to the left? Wondered if it was because Markovich was going to start over there and they've built up a good relationship.

23 Feb 2015 00:06:56
Lovren is too slow to match Clyne. Better with Can.

23 Feb 2015 00:33:40
Probably because when sakho is fit, lovren may play rcb and can in midfield

22 Feb 2015 22:43:45
I've been very critical of Mingolet this season but he'd has played very well lately making some supeerb saves, great save wth feet today denying certain goal, well done lad. Allen another improved greatly, but again Skrtel MOM for me today, he's took a hell of a lot if stick this season(and last) but he's done very well last ten games or so in particular. Oh yes, what a strike from coutinho.

22 Feb 2015 23:21:27
Allen was my MOTM. He more than held his own vs Wanyama and bar the rash tackle that should have been a peon, I thought he was great. As for Mingo, he has been brilliant and whateva he is doing, he should keep doing it.

23 Feb 2015 06:09:47
Allen was excellent in the second half and poor in the first half. Koeman did a blunder in playing through the middle in the second half.
Moreno made the real difference shutting Clyne completely in the second period.

23 Feb 2015 11:20:21
Southampton played through the middle in the second half because we played 5 at the back instead of 3 and there was no longer the space behind the wingbacks to play into.

22 Feb 2015 21:08:34
Coutinho, Ibe, Can, Markovic, Sterling, Moreno all barely 21. All first team regulars, will only get better. Forget the penalty nonsense from Thursday, let's look forward to what could be an exciting future.

22 Feb 2015 23:51:49
Sakho, lovren, sturridge, Henderson all barely 24. Futures bright.

23 Feb 2015 00:03:29
The bulk of our best players are probably under 25. I'm very excited!

23 Feb 2015 03:50:04
Trouble with good young players is if we aren't consistently competing in the CL, eventually someone who is will be talking to them. We have a good group of young players, yes, but in order to keep them together we have to be competing at the highest levels.

22 Feb 2015 20:43:25
I don't think tonight was amazing offensively, but you have to applaud the defence. I thought Lovren looked a bit shake in the first half, but looked solid in the second half. Moving Can to CB was an inspired move, and gives us someone who is comfortable on the ball and strong at distributing, two of the traits I loved in Agger. Markovic struggled a bit, Moreno made us look a lot more comfortable in the second half. Keep it going lads.

22 Feb 2015 20:37:45
Hi all what a massive, massive win today.I'm not going to start rating players or anything like that but a 2-0 away win against a top 6 team in bad conditions I'll take that any day.I said to some Red's at work that it will be between us and Utd for 4th place.I think we will get it but it will be very, very close could even go down to the last 2 games.Now wouldn't that be some send off for SG
P.A.Since my son was born on the 9th of this month we are unbeaten long may it continhe
Barry inLouth

23 Feb 2015 08:13:59
Lucky charm Barry. get in.

22 Feb 2015 19:04:52
Well done to the boys today, my only gripe is I think Lallana needs to up his game a lot more, a virtual passenger today, also thought sterling could have done a bit more but then again up front on his own, and finally Sturridge needs to start looking at options in front of goal rather than self self self.

22 Feb 2015 20:11:36
To be fair to Lallana it was a tough game for him.

22 Feb 2015 18:28:17
What a hard earned clever win.

Yes, we looked 'leggy' at times, but we proved what a team of grafters we are.

I'm still impressed with Southampton though who will fly with a quality striker.

Well done the red men; still marching on and still smothering the doubters.

22 Feb 2015 19:47:32
"still smothering the doubters?" what does that mean? when we played
really badly from the start of the season and fans voiced their frustration were they wrong to do so? or should we bow to your ego and smug reply? when Liverpool play bad i will be their critic, and when they play well i will praise them, i will always be a red and if i doubt BR or some player(S) i have that right.
how does it feel to think you're always right?

22 Feb 2015 20:17:59
Jackthelad - it's a note to people like yourself who were jumping at the chance to have a dig at the manager for each and every single thing that happened this season. So much so, that it seemed people were actually hoping we would lose just to spout more nonsense about the manager and show just how much they 'knew' about football, when it actually seems, as expected, those people knew very little indeed.

I'm not suprised this place has gotten a little quiet lately, humble pie isn't the best dish to keep eating week after week. I'm sure if we dip in form though, the usual suspects will be out in force.

22 Feb 2015 20:46:02
Still only 6th, still no silverware

22 Feb 2015 20:48:04
"How does it feel to think that you are always right?"
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I often ask myself the question mate ;)

22 Feb 2015 21:11:14
I just want to inform you that i had to press disagree to your post JimmyHustle

22 Feb 2015 21:15:38
I'm sure if we have a dip in form the usual suspects will be out in force?
Really. is that the same as saying that if we have an upturn in form the usual suspects will be out in force?
We are 6th in the league. .out of the champions league to the mighty Basle. . my humble pie is making me choke!
Is it the negativity or honesty of some fans that achieved this lofty goal? No. clearly not. maybe it's the 100+ million these fans have spent to achieve 6th place. .
Whilst I admire your desire to support the current management, I find your desire to have a dig at those who don't a little shallow. You are clearly willing to give the manager the credit for the upturn in form that has achieved us the lofty 6th place. who do you think is responsible for putting us in the position that means that 23 out of 27 (or whatever) only gets us to 6th place?
Look at my posts. I was pro BR early in the season. but it is his stubborn desire to play mundane, ineffective, impotent football for the 1st half of every season that has us scrambling for champ league footy.
Take the credit for the good=take the fault for the bad!

22 Feb 2015 21:26:53
Jackthelad is right, the fact remains that top four isn't going to be handed to us, and it's really just an outside chance for us. Considering that given the start of the season is both terrible to consider and lies at the managers feet and at the same time he must be praised for turning it around. But realistically it's still a worry given he is far from a great manager, just a great coach.

23 Feb 2015 00:00:03
Thank you boys for putting Hustle and Davey (BR`s no.1 fan no matter what) and their ilk in their rightful, pathetic places. They are ready to give the manager credit when things go well then make excuses for him when things go bad and these bad things are clearly his fault. They come here to gloat as if they know more than the rest of us while in reality, they are disingenuous and support the manager beyond logic just to prove they are better fans than the rest of us. The manager is NOTHING but an employee who if he does not meet expectations, will be shown the door regardless of your pathetic and disingenuous suppositions, your willingness to sweep all his blunders and mistakes under the rug, and the amount of excuses you make for him.

N BTW, 4th place was not one of the promises your idol BR made to the owners so he is still staring down the barrel and facing the sack because as of now, we are 6th.

23 Feb 2015 00:15:54
There's no need to be so self-righteous DaveyBootle.

23 Feb 2015 08:46:21
The pro Rodgers brigade and the anti Rodgers brigade are two bananas of the same nose.
Both as bad as each other.
Some people can't help themselves can they.
Just like to abuse people with a different viewpoint to them.
And they don't do it with facts and debate they do it with name calling.
Nice.
And for the record I am in the pro Rodgers brigade but I don't think you'll find me using words like "pathetic" or "self righteous" to describe our fan base.
It's not your team, it's not my team, it's our team.
For the record Davey, Jamie Carragher said yesterday that he doubted Rodgers could turn it around. Are you going to slate him for it?
It is natural to doubt a manager when things are going badly.
He has proved everyone wrong since December with the run he has put together and fair play to the manager and the team for that.

23 Feb 2015 08:49:13
I take everything back. . I'm sure I have slagged a fair few people off on this site.
Selective memory. That's my name.

23 Feb 2015 09:03:45
Actually RedOhio, no-one has put me in my place. I've actually been sleeping and have only just read this waffle 5 minutes ago, and it's a good job I skimmed the post or I may have fallen back to sleep again.

I think you'll find like most people on this site, I was as disappointed as most with the start of our season, the only difference was I wasn't crying and flailing my arms around asking for the manager to be sacked after 10 games. Nor was I looking with a microscope at everything the manager did and writing about it on this website to highlight to other supposed Liverpool fans. Some of the posts on here, actually most, were downright embarrassing. From formations, to team sheets, to tactical nous, to press conferences, to man management, to coaching methods, to academies, to transfers, to the clubs structure, you name it. Post after post all highlighting the negative effects the manager was having on all areas of the club - even to the point where people were saying he was destroying the club. What?? Absolute nonsensical waffle. So, like a few others on here that were asking for a bit of patience, I'm not suprised that it's gone quiet on here and the usual suspects don't have anything to write because they're struggling to tear holes in what the manager is doing at the moment. But like I said, as soon as we slip up, we'll see those same names back on the site posting more in depth footballing knowledge for us to read. It was never a case of not being critical of the manager or of the team, as at the beginning of the season we were very poor, it was the fact that it turned into a sad, pathetic attempt to belittle each and every facet of the manager.

{Ed001's Note - it is hardly sad or pathetic to point out mistakes in an attempt to make people see them. Sad and pathetic is what your post is, which is just a personal attack on other people, rather than showing any knowledge of the game yourself. Perhaps you should learn the difference yourself, rather than attempting to do exactly what you are whining about other people doing?}

23 Feb 2015 09:30:44
Laughing my bananas off at your re-wording Eds. Brilliant.

23 Feb 2015 09:33:56
Wow, shock horror, Ed01 appears out of nowhere to have a dig.

As I've stated numerous times, pointing out mistakes isn't the issue, constantly looking to find them is.

And I'm keen now Ed, since you've such a vast array of footballing knowledge, for you to enlighten me on exactly what your breadth of footballing knowledge is?

Maybe we can compare, and then you might get off my back and respect an opinion that differs to yours.

{Ed001's Note - are you really this stupid? All you did was make a personal attack on people having a different viewpoint from you, now you are criticising me for pointing it out to you! Give it a rest and grow up. You might want to try sharing some of your 'vast' knowledge of the game, instead of bitching at people, then you can have the right to criticise me for being on your back. You are nothing but a hypocritical mouth right now. If you have the knowledge, share it, but you do nothing but whine at others, never give a reason for why you disagree, just bitch at them.}

23 Feb 2015 09:45:09
And also, Ed01. Help me with this.

You point out mistakes when we're playing badly, yet you don't point out the positives when we're playing well? Actually, I've seen you again slating Rodgers saying he's taking credit for yesterdays win, and you're also saying the defence played badly.

So, you point out mistakes when we're playing badly, and then you still point out the negativity when we're playing well? And you don't have an agenda against the manager?

Laughable.

The most in form team in the country and you're still trying to find faults and have a dig at the manager. Pathetic.

{Ed001's Note - are you being serious? No one can really be this stupid surely? An agenda? You really are such a child you can't distinguish between your emotional lack of objectivity and other people having a different opinion.

Why would I need to point out the positives when a post comes in only pointing out positives? Have you not got the intelligence to understand what giving balance is?

Oh and we did not play well yesterday, we were awful and got a good result, nothing wrong with that, but I am not going to sit here and verbally masturbate because a blinded biased bloke shouts his mouth off at me for not doing so. Perhaps instead of being a complete tool, you should try, if you can, point out why it was such a 'great' performance, and why you believe we played well? I doubt you will though because you have never done a single thing but been a complete mouthy tool on this site and I am fed up with the likes of you embarrassing the club with their nasty posts aimed at fellow fans.

Grow up or go elsewhere, because right now you are the joke and I am not finding you in the slightest bit funny.}

*deleted nonsense*

{Ed001's Note - again just personal abuse with nothing to say but that. It is sad that you can't share your supposed knowledge with others. Bye.}

22 Feb 2015 18:19:25
Just wanna say well done to Joe Allen today; broke up a lot of trouble and kept the ball well;

Aside from the penalty shout that he created, he had a really good game.

22 Feb 2015 18:28:16
He was excellent today, the team played really well Defensively, which is great to see.

22 Feb 2015 18:34:40
Joe Allen was my MOTM! He`s got a lot of stick even from me and vs Wanyama today, I was crapping my pants BUT he more than held his own. ake a bow, sir!

22 Feb 2015 18:47:28
I've been his most vocal critic but I'm overjoyed to say he played really well today and humble pie has never tasted better.

22 Feb 2015 18:57:22
Skrtel was MOM for me. He won everything in the air and defended really well. Allen has improved massively lately though and deserves credit.

Red Rum

22 Feb 2015 19:03:31
Mr Dennis You will wake up in the morning with what did I do lastnight? Praised Allen.

Must agree he did play well but for me today it was Mignolet MOTM. He made vital saves and the one after the penalty appeal would have got praise if they were not discussing the penalty decision

22 Feb 2015 19:23:37
Motm has to go to Skertl though. I thought he was sensational. First to every ball on the ground and in the air. Despite the win I think we will miss Sacho big time. I really hope iy is a knock. Can't afford to lose him for weeks.

22 Feb 2015 20:14:00
Migs had shown true character, really we don't need to replace him but to have a good back up, which we don't really have at the moment.

22 Feb 2015 20:49:44
Missed this text when I praised Allen he was very good a preformeance like his 1st game vs city for lfc he bossed that game hopefully he can maintain this form credit for our super keeper today also

22 Feb 2015 18:11:00
Very professional performance. The start of a good week for us I am sure.

22 Feb 2015 18:37:50
Yes it was. The saints NEVER really created guilt edged chances and all they did was huff and puff and. Not much after that. I will say that we got a break for the second peno call because that was a stone wall pen. BR got his subs right because Marko was being run ragged and fixed it by playing Moreno who shut Clyne down in the 2nd half. We go again vs City!!

22 Feb 2015 17:33:42
Can we hold on. same as last time, a fortunate win !!

22 Feb 2015 17:09:57
Coutinho said he was working on his shooting I don't see it hahaha

22 Feb 2015 17:04:28
Shocking first half. The standard of redding (luckily for us) has been worse than poor.

22 Feb 2015 17:23:20
reffing I mean

{Ed002's Note - Best known for it's bridge, there is nothing else much special about Redding.}

22 Feb 2015 17:04:20
Not the best but we are winning.

Mignolet has made some great stops so far.

Would bring Toure on for Lovren as he is a red waiting to happen now.

Also Ibe outstanding

22 Feb 2015 16:19:32
Think we've just seen the goal of the season, what a strike!

22 Feb 2015 15:59:16
Team news disappointing
But, go get a win ye lads!
Upwards!

22 Feb 2015 15:55:36
Hey lfc fans

I guess my prediction of a Southampton win
Looks more likely lol

Don't be disheartened guys it's very difficult to win a Thursday and Sunday game

So it's a test of the squad are they good enough or not that's the answer we will all get today

Yes I also agree that ATLEAST balotelli should play upfront with sterling but this could be a bit of a nightmare game who knows

22 Feb 2015 17:22:51
Are you actually a Liverpool fan? It's just you never have anything positive to say!

{Ed002's Note - Most of the Liverpool supporters have nothing positive to say - but I suspect Red Lobster has Liverpool as his second club and Manchester United as his first choice.}

22 Feb 2015 20:06:46
Haha busted! Nice one Ed002.
looks like red lobster is wrong again

22 Feb 2015 15:27:51
Anyone know how long Sakho is out for?

22 Feb 2015 15:55:32
Should have a scan in the coming days according to BR. The problem is it doesn't sound like something that will dissapear in days. Bad bad news.

22 Feb 2015 15:57:52
He has a very minor hip injury .

22 Feb 2015 15:18:00
I hope Rodgers is up to something, because that lineup isn't promising. Rather than play both Balotelli and Sturridge, we have neither!

22 Feb 2015 14:07:31
2 teams above us have dropped points and we play another one, now is the time to capitalise. Our good run will have been pointless if we cannot win today. Come on lads :)

On another note, carra spot on with balo comments.

22 Feb 2015 13:52:46
Today we find out if we have really turned a corner or not. Very tough, very important game that is a must win.

There have however been many times this season when teams around us have dropped points and rodgers has failed to motivate the team to get a victory. Today we find out if we are good enough for top four or whether this season is a complete disaster.

22 Feb 2015 14:23:25
A draw would not be a disaster imo going by the league table not many teams get much at st Mary's.

22 Feb 2015 14:41:24
Thursday is more important though of course I hope we win

22 Feb 2015 09:14:10
It has just clicked why BR wants so many right backs. RB is BR backwards and we all know how much he loves himself ;-)
If only Brian Roy was still playing he'd be straight in the team!

21 Feb 2015 23:35:41
I think it's time the club gave press conference duties to Collin Pascoe for a while and see if he is an improvement on BR. Hell, even try out the water boy! he couldn't be as bad as BR.
But if we do end up with a DOF, and BR is still there, my hope is that the DOF takes the press conferences. As long as its not Martin Jol! lol

{Ed002's Note - That is not going to happen.}

22 Feb 2015 02:19:34
Why? I don't see any problem with Rodgers press conference. Maybe you wan't him to act like Mourinho, and embarrass the club?

22 Feb 2015 02:41:35
JM may be a tool but he defends his players, doesn't take all the credit for wins and hangs them out to dry for losses. He doesn't discuss transfers ( salah) or contracts ( sterling)

22 Feb 2015 07:16:05
Jose is head and shoulders above Rodgers In-front of the press.

22 Feb 2015 10:33:21
Mourinho operates on a whole different level in managing the press.

Comparing their media savvy is like comparing an eagle and a worm.

22 Feb 2015 10:35:37
Ambi, how is BR not beeing embarrising? You can't even compare the 2 of them.

22 Feb 2015 10:43:01
Defends his players like when he slated Hazard, Torres et al?

22 Feb 2015 13:22:23
I don't give a toss about his press conference as far as I am concerned he was employed to manage the team not stand in front of the camera