22 Jan 2014 23:30:57
BREAKING: Juan Mata has officially handed in a transfer request at Manchester United.
Now that`s funny.
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22 Jan 2014 23:30:57
BREAKING: Juan Mata has officially handed in a transfer request at Manchester United.
Now that`s funny.
22 Jan 2014 23:29:35
It's amazing that Man U can spend £37m on Mata.
Chelsea, City, Arsenal and Utd are just in a completely different league to everyone else. How can we or anyone else in the league ever compete with any of them for players?
The CL has ruined the game for smaller clubs and the money pot it is. A club with less money might squeeze into it the odd year but more often than not are out of the top 4 the next as the big 4 just spend.
Look at us, we might/might not get into the top 4, if we do get in we will no doubt still be unable to buy much to improve the squad much as it's so small, and if we don't qualify our top players may will want to leave. Lucky for us money doesn't always by success.
Funny old game these days, money money money.
I'm really happy for Sunderland tonight and as Wigan did hope they cause an upset to these billionaire powered clubs.
What are u complaining about?
We spend as much money as almost anyone else and it's just waah waah waah
It was all well and good when we were part of the Big 4 - Hicks and Gillette bled us dry and a handful of poor transfer windows (Aquilani, Dossena, Carroll, Downing, Adam, J Cole et al) compounded our problems. Now that we are out of the Big 4, we really shouldn't complain - notwithstanding that your point re finances it generates is valid.
We could never spend that sort of money unless we sold a player for a larger amount.
Even if BR wants any sort of player we seem to have to loan out another to cover the wages.
I'm not complaining about our club and with the owners they don't have unlimited funds so have to manage the spending the best they can.
These clubs can afford to buy without balancing the books.
That's the difference. Unless FFP really takes effect these clubs will just get bigger and bigger. How can Real Madrid spend £85m on 1 player yet still confirm to FFP with all there debt?
22 Jan 2014 23:26:51
Anyone else thinks Mata smacks of desperation on Uniteds part? I mean with there strongest team surely it would be Rooney in behind rvp? In this Rooney would be playing in matas role. And as seen at Chelsea Mata is less effective out wider which is partly why Chelsea are getting rid of him .
All I can think is that they're going to switch to 4-2-3-1 but they would need a squad change for that.
Main point in summary is I just don't see the point of this for msn u. apologies for non lfc related.
Opinios eds and reds?
Rooney doesbt want to play Mata's role, is Mata better than their entire mid? Er yes. So it makes sense for everyone. Sounds like sour grapes, because we are useless and potless in the transfer market.
They would play in the same position at the "number 10" role in behind rvp if Rooney plays up top with rvp do you think Mata will be effective in a more box to box or defensive mid? I would think not.
Saying he is better than their mids is pointless is Mata better than Lucas? Yes but who would you rather have holding in your midfield?
22 Jan 2014 23:24:21
Chelsea now odds on with the bookies to sign Salah. I'm guessing they're probably right. Very disappointing if so
22 Jan 2014 23:19:09
I think Borini's looked bright for Sunderland this season, could do with a few more goals but certainly looks a threat, reminds me of a Dirk Kuyt type player, hard working if not prolific, ed001 do you see him having a future at anfield next season? I for one hope so
{Ed001's Note - Rodgers likes him, so I think he will have every chance.}
I do too for his desire and determination to never give up and succeed. Others (GJ, Moses) could learn a thing or two from him because they both don`t seem to care about anything atm. And remember, he has a good finisher`s touch based on the goals he`s scored this season. Defo worth a punt next year.
22 Jan 2014 23:18:16
I genuinely need some help guys. I've tried everything I can think of, vinegar, lime, sucking a sackful of lemons and I still can't sort it.
Every time I see united play . I just can't get the smile off my face
22 Jan 2014 23:03:09
Good news boys! Lucas leiva has just tweeted that his injury is not serious and he will be back 'in a few weeks'.
I KID YOU NOT!
22 Jan 2014 22:56:33
Early summer we all wanted Alonso here, why didn't we make a move for his brother the left back currently on loan at Sunderland a good defender and a very good attacking full back who would have cured our left back woes and the thought of playing with his brother may have dragged xabi here.
marcom
22 Jan 2014 22:55:20
!Juan Mata has just been arrested attempting a U-turn on the M6!
22 Jan 2014 22:52:43
Ed001 just like to say thank you for creating this website been an avid reader since 2005 5 mins can't pass without me coming on here! I have to say though it used to be much better without all the nuggets who moan about everything and anything I don't know how you put up with them they're clueless to say the least!
Special little mention to Ed02 also! Keep the good info and sarcastic banter coming please its brilliant!
Also YNWAdam your posts are always a good read very knowledgable!
I work in an enviroment where I get to meet some football players sometimes so any little bits about us I get I will try and share. Its based right by the LFC offices also so I bump into a few of our players and legends sometimes whenever they go in to do an interview etc etc.
Anyway its nice to be part of the brotherhood again now I've registered! Heres hoping to a strong finish to the season and hopefully Champions league qualification! If we don't get it this season don't stress and claim this was our only shot the majority forget how much progress we've made in the last 2 seasons and with the standard of youth coming through the squads only going to get better!
YNWA
{Ed001's Note - thank you very much, it can be hard work at times, but thankfully Moyes provides much needed comedy relief......}
Just saw De Gea's gaffe, lol.
No bobble, no swerve and no dip. He just totally misjudged it and wow, what a howler!
22 Jan 2014 23:08:38
Cheers mate. Keep up the positive posts!
YNWAdam
Ed, you have no idea. He`s the gift that keeps on giving.
Great post. I agree with you on Adam's posts, always knowledgable and nice to read.
22 Jan 2014 22:46:55
Just tell united fans it doesn't mata, it's only the capital Juan cup! Apologies for the humour just couldn't resist. #moyesin.
On a more important note, I don't get all the pessimist comments were in the top four with both Everton and spurs heading to our patch. If we get reinforcements great if not stick by the team as anything can happen with the SAS
22 Jan 2014 22:36:29
Lucas has said on Twitter that it's not a serious injury and will be back in a couple of weeks! That's good news. Maybe we don't need a DM urgently now.
That`s why one should never panic.
22 Jan 2014 22:35:41
Anyone who didn't find that the funniest thing ever best get themselves down the docs. Classic comedy in the making there. Still laughing. Absolute quality.
22 Jan 2014 22:29:52
Is Moyes a double agent? . thought he hated us but he just keeps on giving!
Congrats Sunderland!
He isn`t. He`s just clueles and useless where ever he goes. Love it!
22 Jan 2014 22:28:16
Glory glory man united? Four out of five penalty misses? Oh deary me.
If there was any proof that incompetence is a top-down philosophy, this is it. Moyes should be there forever.
22 Jan 2014 22:27:44
How David Moyes must wish they'd placed the tunnel next to the bench at OT. Those walks passed the fans must be coming quite painful and embarrassing.
He will need a hardhat soon :)
And a boat.
22 Jan 2014 22:20:16
Stan maybe twitter isn't for you, maybe find another way to spend your free time.
Kicking hornets nests maybe?
Or chucking fuel on fires?
Replacing windows in glass houses?
Muffling empty vessels?
His opinions don't deserve racist abuse and death threats.
22 Jan 2014 22:38:11
He spends most of it dogging and beating up women!
A.Moran
22 Jan 2014 22:11:16
Couldn't script it better -de Gea classic mate
Script was better - the look on Moyes face!
Seeing that "face" never gets old. LOL!
His is looking a year older every day :)
22 Jan 2014 22:04:19
Sorry if I'm missing the obvious but why would United be using a third party to submit bids to Chelsea?
Don't united and Chelsea already employ people to send faxes/emails etc?
Is the third party a carrier pigeon?
Seems an odd transfer to me, he's not (in my opinion anyway) going to transform uniteds fortunes overnight. Looks like a long term change of playing style under moyes. In which case it seems a desperate move by mata in order to cement a World Cup place. Great player but I can't see him making waves at old Trafford until there has been a lot more changes in the summer and beyond.
Back to lfc and I can confirm salah is not on a Zurich to Liverpool Easyjet flight as that route doesn't exist.
It will be Geneva to Liverpool if anything.
Good signing if we can pull it off. I'm not worried too much by the amount of time it's apparently taking, the lad has a lot of options to choose from.
I know I have been saying this for probably 2 years on here now but can we please sign a back up/competition for lucas?
Our season could depend on it.
At least Mata can take a decent penalty Mikey lad!
They`re going to need much more than Mata after that gutless showing.
22 Jan 2014 22:03:32
Watched borini tonite thought he did well!
Well done lad!
He did great. Rendered Rafael useless going forward and showed great effort, work ethic, determination and ran his socks off. 'Hope he plays in the final.
22 Jan 2014 22:02:32
Just because ManU bid for Mata, does not mean he will go there. For one thing its not a move to make if he wants to play champs league next year. Secondly Mourinho won't let him leave so easily to ManU,
especially since they did not give him a job there.
Maybe a Mata deal could be done with a swap for
Rooney but that would only leave poor united worse
off. For 40 mil we would be better off buying two good
strategic players (not squad players).
I'm not concerned by the transfer to be honest. If we strengthen with salah and a DM then united won't catch us.
Also I can see the transfer dragging out to the last day of the window to squeeze a few extra pennies from United as there is an air of desperation from moyes as we saw with the purchase of fellaini.
He also has the "face" of desperation to prove it.
22 Jan 2014 21:42:26
Hi Eds,
My mates a hygiene technician at melwood and he swears he saw messi 2k14 scribbled on one of the toilet cubical walls; any chance of signing him?
I too have seen this act of vandalism and I can confirm it's written far too high up the wall for it to be written by Messi.
unless he stood on top of the toilet of course. Lol
22 Jan 2014 21:39:32
eds, I simply cannot understand why we haven't gone for juan mata, in my eyes it would be 40 million very well spent. the man is a genius! why don't we go for these high profile players when they are made available? its things like this that are the reason we aren't properly contending for the league, we haven't beaten any of the teams above us yet this season because we don't have that quality to get that all important goal in the big games so far, players like him provide that quality and were not going for them, instead we are going for the cheap options like aspas and luis alberto (who hasn't even seen the firsst team yet in the league this season) I just don't get it lads, I just don't get it!!
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool don't have that money to spend on one palyer.}
Juan Mata would have been a better value of signing a few years back straight from Valencia. Not too much more than it cost for Downing. £40m is far too much today
22 Jan 2014 21:49:00
LUIS SUAREZ. Enough for this season.
Thank god you are not the manager of Liverpool FC. you would drive the club straight to the ground. Chelsea have a wealthy billionaire to just pump and pump money into the club whenever they want such as Man City as well. Man U have spent the last 20 years accumulating vast wealth and power through their accomplishments and you expect us to just shell out 40 mil for one player like we can afford. If we were to listen to you, what would is we would buy mata for 40 mil and not have enough money to buy other players but he is so high profile for you that he is worth it. Then on his debut in the first game. he gets injured for 1 month and misses perhaps 5 games and we didn't improve any other area of the squad because we wanted him so badly. Like I said, you would drive the club straight into the ground, leaving it in debt. Then we wouldn't be able to compete in major competitions because we spend millions on buying high profile players. Eventually they will want a move away if we don't win anything and we are stuck with the debt. Then being in debt we can't buy new players and we slowly creep down the table through the years until we become relegated. Then we keep dropping and dropping until we can only play with lads from the local schools. This is what would happen if you took over Liverpool FC. Thank you for your time. =)
Meltham must have been asleep, unborn or under a bolder when we spent stupid money for yrs only to be bailed out by FSG when facing administration and oblivion. Leave the finances to the pros and concentrate on playing FIFA Manager where you can buy whoever you like in that alternate reality called playstation.
Redohio, thanks for your comment
FYI I was born, I wasn't under a bolder and I do not play football manager, but I have followed and supported LFC for over 30 years.
My remarks were a comment in response to the first post and my opinion that Mata would have been a better value for money player at the time from Valencia than Downing was, or Andy Carroll for example, but certainly not today and certainly not at £40m.
This was a response to glinbno9 who said he "simply couldn't understand why we haven't gone for Juan Mata" for £40m and you choose to slate my comment!
22 Jan 2014 21:35:04
I think Chelsea have enough midfielders already!
22 Jan 2014 21:49:26
But they have only 2 wingers.
Does mata play as an orthodox winger though? Or a winger we have traditionally seen at United over the years?
22 Jan 2014 21:31:00
Lucas just tweeted his injury is not as serious as first thought and should be back in a few weeks. Relief!
Great news that.
22 Jan 2014 21:26:00
There's a new story about salah every 30mins, apparently he's been spotted by Liverpool fans house hunting on mersyside.?
{Ed002's Note - You might want to not bother with Twitter.}
I never use twitter! I don't even have my own account.
{Ed002's Note - So Salah is roaming the streets of Liverpool?}
22 Jan 2014 21:50:18
Salah has decided to drive through almost all possible grounds in UK to confuse the Journalist.
So ed u wouldn't speak his name for the last week but now chelsea have been mentioned with him your happy to do so, so why not tell all us fans on here what's happening thnks
{Ed002's Note - I hhave said nothing. Try not being a cretin. NOthing gets said because of the vgetables. I am not taking abuse From anyone here. It is unacceptable.}
Love to see Ibe get a go myself.
And one or two of the other youngsters get a game at Bournemouth too.
Hopefully another one of them can step forward and claim a spot.
Yay Twitter! Salah medical Friday. His uncle has been at Anfield to watch a few games and his family are happy with the move. Interest in Fernando & M'Vila. Possibly Lars Bender for the summer. Yay Twitter!
22 Jan 2014 21:24:10
Eds I know you don't like talking about him but please please tell me some positives on Salah? Seems Che have come in for him, are we to far into talks for his head to be turned now?
{Ed002's Note - There is no point explaining.}
22 Jan 2014 21:23:23
Lucas has just said that this injury is not as bad as 1st though. SO some good news!
Lucas is the most under appreciated player, he works hard and gives 100% all the time. We really missed him first half against Villa, Coutinho just wasn't strong enough in midfield and Gerard sadly not quick enough in the defensive midfield role. Who knows, but I think at least one of Villas goals would have been avoided if Lucas had been fully fit to play from the start.
22 Jan 2014 21:15:51
Why are we wasting time and money on salah when tom ince is available for fraction of the price and is just as good, plus his 30 mintues up the road and knows the club inside out.
Because he's not as good and his dad is a prat and will end up ruining his sons career
Well not waisting money but a alternative would be a good option
22 Jan 2014 20:11:34
so i'm hearing that chelsea is in for Salah. eds is this true?
{Ed002's Note - LOts of people are interested in the kid.}
22 Jan 2014 20:56:23
so now chelsea bid for salah
what the hell
the twists and turns are starting
22 Jan 2014 21:13:14
Jose you are brilliant. absolutely brilliant. sold Mata to UTD to take the points away from Liverpool/Spurs/Arsenal/City. and Now Sign Salah to Hit us on Top.
If we don't get Salah then BR's focus will probably change to a central midfielder.
This is the style of Chelsea and Man City. They buy players to keep them from their rivals. Is there room in the Chelsea squad for Salah, will he play, will he care or is he money orientated?
The best move for Salah would be LFC, he would be a regular, the stage is set for him at Anfield to make a real name for himself. Come on Mo, think about it
There should not have been any twists and turns. This deal should have been wrapped up weeks ago!
Agreed Red Richard we again are too slow securing targets we do not learn
I fully agree richard, it is our own fault if we lose salah to chelsea
Calm down. If Salah goes to chelsea, he`ll be on the bench most of the time and will prob be shipped out to Vitesse or Hamburg on loan like the other rejects. So if he wants to pull a Willian, then that`s his choice. I didn`t care for Willian when he followed the money to Chelsea and I defo don`t miss him now. Just chill out, quit bitching/whinging and enjoy the season.
If there's no twist and turns he's not worth buying, I thought he was good at them :)
22 Jan 2014 20:48:30
Is it true Micah arichards has only 6 months left on his contract?
Could be a great option for full back and could even be used as a CB or even DM, strong, good in the air, tactical, good assists when he had a run in the team, I definitely think worth a punt.
I rated him very highly a few seasons back but I think he's a bit too injury prone a bit like Kelly in that aspect
22 Jan 2014 20:47:21
Hi eds, pals. Why are you guys expecting us to sign Mata? What do u think should happen to Suso if that happens? Suso is one player who is the closest to Mata, so why do we need Mata when we'l have Suso for only his wages next season without spending that much? Think about it guys!
Cheers
A Ghanaian fan
No one is expecting us to sign Mata. Manchester United bound he is!
22 Jan 2014 20:45:52
if we miss out on our transfer targets again surely its about time someone tells Ayres to rip up that copy of Parrys easy guide to transfer dealings!
100% agree! The negotiations for players have been poor for the last few years! We over pay for average players and take so long for players in demand just we will always be a target for gazumping
Lol, I think Ayre is on a different level of thinking. first he gave in to any number that was quoted by clubs, now he just bids half of the quoted price and puts his fingers in his ears to block counter offers while participating in a 528 hour staring contest.
22 Jan 2014 20:34:12
Just a quick one on Sakho.
Great to see him involved with the local school kids.
I wouldn't say he's expected to do it and certainly not 6 months after joining.
Fair play to you mate, this shows great humility and a community spirit!
22 Jan 2014 20:31:56
There are rumours that the Chavs are trying to hijack any bid for Salah, if that's true then well done to the transfer committee for dithering and losing out again. Also we genuinely need to replace Lucas, none of what we have left are anywhere near the quality to play that position(Allen too lightweight, Gerrard to indisccplined and on the decline and Henderson is better going forward). I think this window is crucial, get it right and we're back in the champions league, get it wrong and it's Thursday cup and another season on mediocrity and NO Suarez as he won't hang around for that.
22 Jan 2014 20:26:11
Looks like Chelsea are now in for Salah! This is what happens while negotiations take too long! We will either get him for a higher price or miss out! I hope we don't panic buy someone else now!
Could be a ploy buy Basel, could be nonsense or Salah could just completely refuse to move to any club other than Liverpool. which would mean that the price doesn't go up, sticking it to the man is the phrase.
I blame JWH for only coming for transfer talks almost three weeks after it has opened knowing that it is just a 4 week period.
They don`t need to come just for transfer talks. These meetings are set up way in advance and doesn`t hinge on TW`s. and besides, they own the club so they can visit when they wish and if they can`t, ther`s something called conference calls. If u`re going to slate the owners, at least make valid case and not make silly accusations.
22 Jan 2014 20:22:35
So chelsea now favourites to get Salah is it a case of we snooze we lose. or just paper talk
22 Jan 2014 20:59:51
As I heard they have submitted a 10 mill +2 bonus. and LFC with a 12 mill straight. This is going to be crazzzyyy.
To be honest we have dragged our heels when it comes to salah, culd have had this done weeks ago
serves us right if chelea do nab him
if I was him I d pick us, he won't get a game at chelsea
Our own fault
coud have this done weeks ago
22 Jan 2014 21:05:58
He would get games as apart from willian and hazzard they don't have wingers. schrulle is a striker for them.
No he wouldn`t. Don`t try to spin the situation. Chelsea `s just doing this because they see us as a threat just like they did w/ Willian when he snatched him from his medical at Spurs. It`s a common ploy by wealthy clubs since the days of Berlusconi`s AC Milan sides of the 90`s. Bottom line is if Salah wants to come here like reports suggest, then he will and if he doesn`t, good luck to him. Period!
22 Jan 2014 20:20:55
I would Luv to see us sign 3 more after Salah. Yann M'Vila. wants to come. Micah Richards. I'm sure he would come if we're in for him. The last one is Berbatov! Hope the TRUE reds agree.
{Ed001's Note - I would rather we signed no one, than signed any of those three! None of them are good enough.}
No way Ed 01, Richards would be a much better option at full back than everything we currently have.
Salah is good enough ed would you stop no options on the bench ibe is still to young in rogers eyes
{Ed001's Note - Salah wasn't one of the 3 mate. As for Richards, he has been awful for years and has an attitude problem, nothing like as good as Wisdom.}
When was the last time Richards played a game for City? Don`t want him nor the God aweful Mvila. Salah? Maybe.
22 Jan 2014 20:42:03
What's the moral of the story?
Don't use twa**er!!
22 Jan 2014 20:15:54
Yalany Bail is on trial at Sheffield Wednesday trying to secure a permanent move. I'm not surprised. He's 19 years of age, if he was good enough he would have at least been an U21 regular by now but instead the decidedly average Craig Roddan got in ahead of him last season and this season the excellent Jordan Rossiter's leap-frogged him.
To be honest Baio is better than Rossiter, like how Sama is better than Lloyd jones yet can't get a game at CB to save his life (Inglethorpe is prioritising the british kids hence Borrell's demise). for me Baio was in the top five best players in last years U18's along with McLaughlin, Peterson, Lloyd Jones & Ibe.
Haych, Baio is not better than Rossiter. Baio just isn't good enough for the LFC First Team. I do think he could achieve a mid-championship team starting place though, like Middlesbrough. Sama is definitely not better than Lloyd Jones, who is by far the best CB we have at the academy. He's huge and has quite a bit of pace. Sama's concentration lacks big time.
22 Jan 2014 19:42:08
Evening everyone. Finally!. We have have agreed deal with Mohamed Salah. £10m + bits and pieces! Roll on next one.
Sky Italian and other sources reporting Chelsea have matched our bid.
Trust Mourinho to put the boot into us again, one day he's blaming Suarez for diving, then he won't let us have Bertrand on loan and now he's taking our targets, he must be getting worried about the Pool.
Its is not a done deal until he actually signs. The longer it takes to more unlikely he is to sign! Negotiations have been far to slow
Not yet we dont
chelsea have moved in
We should just do one better than just go ahead a sign pedro
Also gave us moses haha
He sees us as a threat and I`ll take that as a compliment from the "Moaning One".
22 Jan 2014 19:34:06
Hi ed01, your opinion if I may? Before he signed for Norwich I asked if we should have a look at snodgrass, we had Carrol at the time and only the one winger in downing which I felt left the team unbalanced. We agreed he wasn't top quality, and in fairness probably wouldn't suit our current team. However he's done really well at nowrich. My new question is what about lee cattermole as a DM? He has played every level for England except full team, he played really well alongside Henderson at Sunderland, loads of prem experince, and he is a natural DM. 25 years old would be good cover for Lucas. I know he's no alonso or Masc but he could shield our defence, Sunderland have looked better since poyet brought him back in. I like you rate medel ( I like leroy fer too, have before he moved here and that can be searched ) but I'm thinking availability and price. You've allways given me fair intelligent answers to decent questions so look forward to your opinion on this.
{Ed001's Note - Cattermole is not good enough either on or off the ball. He often gets dragged out of position trying to force a challenge, when he would be far better off sitting in place and guiding the danger away from goal. An average player, at best.}
22 Jan 2014 19:54:02
If mata is worth 40 mill Then what is suarez worth scary thought
22 Jan 2014 20:19:08
Mata isn't worth anywhere near 40 mill. UTD doesn't have a clue what they are doing, They are buying a player whose preferred position is occupied by their best player Rooney.
Mata on the wings have been a failure till now for Chelsea. This might see the exit door for Rooney.
As good a player he is, $40m sounds a bit high. He`s a player they need but like Fellaini (27m), looks like Moyes got duped again.
Hes only worth what the buyer wants to pay
Dohhh
22 Jan 2014 19:49:08
Whatever happens tonight won't change my opinion, I really hope we keep borini and he has a career with us I don't know what it is but I really like him and hope he gets a proper chance.
He`s having a cracking game and would be nice if he scored the goal that sends the Mackems to the final.
22 Jan 2014 19:35:44
All the talk is of Mata joining ManU for £35/40 M! But if we get Salah, which I hope we do, he will have a huge impact on the EPL. IMO he will be a revelation like Sturridge and Coutniho.
A temporary DM cover and we are sailing. I know LB also needs looking at but Enrique is back in a forthnight as well as Flanagan.
I have a feeling there will be surprise additions to the squad too, so let's not wish we could've signed Mata, we can't BUT we will make meaningful signings. watch this space.
P.S. Could Sunderland do the biz tonight? I, in a sick way, want ManU to go to Wembley to get hammered by City but as the same time know how lucky they can get.
YNWA
We could not have signed Mata because a) we don`t need him b) we have coutiniho and suso who can play there c) we have no issues scoring goals and creating chances which would be his job d) we have other issues like fullback and DM spots to fix.
Id prefer their exit tonight with a deciding goal by Borini. A trip to the final will only go to their heads.
22 Jan 2014 19:25:08
Why is everyone so concerned about Mata going to United? He won't have the same impact for the Mancs that he would have for us, as they have other areas they really should be concentrating on, and they are forking out near on £40m for a player that hasn't had much involvement this season. I can't stand Jose as a person, but he bloody knows what he's doing regarding football, and this is a great bit of business on his part. Moyes has inherited a league winning squad who have not done that well at all so far, so until he finds his feet buying x, y, or z is not going to make a massive impact. If you ask me he should be questioning the way he is managing, or if its an issue with the players, sorting their attitudes out before forking out the cash. No doubt Mata is a great player, and most sides would take him, but we can't afford him and we have to deal with that. The last thing we want is to reach the CL and then be disqualified on FFP terms. let's worry about what were doing and leave united and Chelsea to it, because supporters getting angry or frustrated is not going to stop either clubs going about their business.
Mata may not be the savior that the mancs need, but a great player. Sometimes that 1 addition can help lift a team, e.g Ozil at arsenhole. to a strong finish 7 the still have sherk & percy sugden to come back. let's hope not.
YNWA
Where would they play Rooney if Mata was playing? Maybe sign that Rooney is probably indicated he's off.
We could not have signed Mata because a) we don`t need him b) we have coutiniho and suso who can play there c) we have no issues scoring goals and creating chances which would be his job d) we have other issues like fullback and DM spots to fix. We would like to have him BUT we really don`t need him.
22 Jan 2014 19:24:57
Stan collymore says " Twitter a vacuum for abuse " . I don't use twitter myself and will admit that I'm not to
Clued up on it, But if what I have read is correct Collymore gave a thumbs up to an absolutely crass tweet
from a so-called Evertonian, I won't go into detail about it but if you search the net you will find it, I also dont
condone racist abuse and death threats by anyone, But Collymore should be old enough to know when you put
yourself out there, some divie will always think its clever to sit behind a keyboard and rip in to him. So the
easiest thing in the world to do would be to close your twitter account, or would that choke the publicity you
you thrive on. Just a thought
Then he should shut his gob and get off twitter instead of trying to have it both ways.
22 Jan 2014 18:52:56
Guillem Balague just posted that Mata deal with United has been completed for 45 mill Euros. In my opinion, he is a good player, but not the type of player they need at the moment. Another Moyesy mistake perhaps?
In meantime we still need to find a proven DM to replace Lucas. Personally I would put Toure in there, he has skill and can stop things at source. One tackle from Toure and your out the game, he's a beast
Nah not a mistake he will do well. €45m, kudos to chelsea for using United's desperation & getting them to cough up an extra £7m.
Probably Moyes trying to get the fans back on side? IMO united should really have focused more on a stronger defensive midfielder (similar to us really)
And to think, he cost the same as Downing.
22 Jan 2014 18:46:39
why do people come on here slagging the club off for lack of signings.
its obvious to see that we work on deals for months before the window opens yes we do seem to start low with are offers and some times somebody out bids us, but to be fair if you were buying coutinho and sturridge off us today you would need twice what we got them for last january so it does pay off.
i am expecting 3 1st team players to arrive this window and maybe a couple of youngsters but with salah negotiations ongoing Liverpool will surely want this deal signed up before announcing other deals.
if we get salah this week expect it to kick off with a couple more to follow next week.
must say hope we get a decent buy on deadline day as every window I sit there waiting for the big deal only to find out Liverpool done there business days before
22 Jan 2014 18:43:21
This is what an Egyptian website is claiming:
Mohamed Salah is set to travel to Liverpool tomorrow ahead of his medical as Basel agree on £10million fee, according to KingFut.com sources.
The Reds have held numerous talks with Basel in recent weeks as they tried to agree on a fee for the 21-year-old Egyptian wonderkid Salah. Liverpool were unwilling to match Basel’s initial asking price of £18million, while Brendan Rodgers, Liverpool’s manager, was expected to bid £8million on the player this week.
Salah has attracted interest from big clubs all over Europe during this January transfer window, including the likes of Russian giants Zenit St. Petesburg, Turkish giants Galatasaray, Champions League runners-up Borussia Dortmund, Wolfsburg, and Atlético Madrid in Spain.
Two days ago, Newcastle United were also reportedly considering to hijack the Salah deal from Liverpool. However, according to a KingFut.com source close to the player, the Egyptian winger is expected to have his medical at Melwood on Friday as a £10million fee has been agreed between Liverpool and the Swiss champions.
What you make of it eds?
22 Jan 2014 18:25:25
Egyptian site KingFut has announced that a £10 million deal has been agreed for Salah and he will travel to Liverpool tomorrow to undergo a medical.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.
22 Jan 2014 18:18:10
Perhaps everyone should 'calm down' a little? United were bound to strengthen this window and again in the summer. Around 40m for a player Mourinho clearly thinks doesn't add enough to the overall team performance. We're not the richest club around so can certainly spend our money more wisely. E.g 21 year old Mohamed Salah for around 10m. Apart from Sterling, Assaidi (currently at Stoke) and Moses (currently doesn't make an effort) we have no other pacey players that can play either side of midfield. IF we sign him he should improve working under Brendan and along side Suarez/Gerrard etc.
I'm sure most of us would like to see the defence/midfield areas improved but I'd rather sign Salah now rather than possibly missing out in the summer.
We could not have signed Mata because a) we don`t need him b) we have coutiniho and suso who can play there c) we have no issues scoring goals and creating chances which would be his job d) we have other issues like fullback and DM spots to fix. Salah can play on either wing so he can give Sterling a break because he`s been playing too many games IMO. Great if it`s true because I read he wants to play here and nowhere else which is a plus.
22 Jan 2014 12:14:55
Ed, I remember people saying Sama is a great defensive talent. And we do need somebody good at LB and RB. Flanno is definitely good and so is Kelly. But both are injured most of the time. So why not give Sama a chance at that position?
How is Coady doing at Sheffield Utd? If we don't sign a replacement for Lucas, will he be given a chance?
Also, what do you think about Robinson and Wisdom? I'm a bit sceptical about Robinson, but I'm sure Wisdom will do well.
Will love your opinion
Cheers
{Ed001's Note - Sama is no fullback, he would not suit playing wide at all.
Coady is doing ok, but not well enough to suggest he is ready to be given a shot, not even sure he is doing well enough to get a new contract.
Robinson is doing ok, but not looking like any more than a Championship fullback, he seems to have found his level.
Wisdom is doing really well, one of Derby's better players since he arrived.}
Thank god I really rate wisdom is solid good lad
22 Jan 2014 17:48:09
Apparently salah is flying into Liverpool tomorrow eds you herd anything about this
Eds will not answer any questions on Salah mate. They've received abuse and been slated about him over the last few months so. Can't blame them.
I really hope the reports are true though, about time we had some good positive news.
Lets see if the photo's come in like with coates.
22 Jan 2014 17:41:25
Lots of rumours about Salah joining, including some respected Egyptian reporters etc. I just checked flights from Zurich, Easyjet flight arrives at Liverpool tonight at 21.50 pm. Presume we can expect the usual stories about taxi drivers etc all evening. let the fun begin!
22 Jan 2014 17:39:14
Hi eds,
I've heard that Manchester United have prepared a bid for mata! Is this true? I know it's not Liverpool related but I'm just wondering! Gutted it couldn't be us! Would definitely help secure top 4! Alternatively how is the situation with Salah coming along? Any updated? Thanks
{Ed002's Note - They submitted a bid this afternoon.}
Yes Man U have bid for Mata, that doesn't mean that Chelsea will except it. Would they really want to strengthen their rivals? If Chelsea could do a deal with Rooney then maybe. But can we wait until the deal is done before we hit panic button
Interesting to look at it from a Chelsea POV, it's basically United giving Chelsea £40M. He never plays,, they'll more than likely go out now and spend that money on a world class center forward (which they need)
My question is why is the fee so astronomical? Any other teams interested in Mata eds?
{Ed002's Note - I don;t want to get in to finances. DBol. There is some way to go.}
22 Jan 2014 20:07:37
Ed02,
When they say they have made a bid through a third party what do they mean.
{Ed002's Note - They mean that the bid was submitted through someone not employed bythe club.}
22 Jan 2014 17:31:21
according to Egyptian media Liverpool agreed 10m fee for salah youve probably all read it already if you sat refreshing newsnow and back and forth to rumours and banter on here every few minutes
22 Jan 2014 17:30:06
How to add Twitter followers: a guide by Stan Collymore
1. Start talking about one of the most searched footballers on the internet.
2. Consistently bring up one of the most used websites in the world.
3. Wait for people to search both terms on the internet and then click on your Twitter since it will be one of the first results shown.
4. If at all possible, do this during transfer season when people will be searching for said player on said site and/rumours about his potential tranback via search engine
5. Pat yourself on the back.
Type in wife beater as well
22 Jan 2014 17:27:39
Egyptian press (FilGoal) reporting that we have agreed deal for Salah, and he will be flying in tonight, or at the latest tomorrow morning.
22 Jan 2014 17:17:15
I wondered when it would start, Utd have bid for Mata and who have we signed?, well, no-one is the answer the same as Utd, they've bid for Mata upto now not signed him, Arsenal bid for Suarez last year what happened there?,
If we as people can see that we have a chance of top four with one or two extra squad players to bolster us then i'm sure the owners and Rodgers can see it too, Its not rocket science to be fair, but I don't understand all the whining, I mean we are in the top four as it stands and we are streets in front of where we were last season, can't we just enjoy the ride and see where it takes us?,
Just a side note too but is Mata really going to change Utd that much?, from where i'm sitting there in dire need of a whole back four and some central midfielders so if Moyes wants to blow the lot on a winger/support striker then fire away son as that's the last position they need help in
YNWA JFT96
22 Jan 2014 17:11:46
Hello again eds, I know this may be a difficult question to explain in detail but without going into figures, would you say that we will be within the rules of FFP once or if we do qualify for the Champions League? Or are the wages (which you say are the main expenses) we are currently paying, still preventing us from doing so? Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will be withing the requirements when they stop spending so much money.}
Is there a particular expense that you are referring to or is it simply a variety of everything. Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - It is clear.}
22 Jan 2014 17:01:50
Hi eds, hope you are all keeping well. Could you kindly confirm a statement which you made regarding Aly Cissokho, that he will be returning to Valencia once he's loan deal expires? I believe this was mentioned a few days back. Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - He will.}
22 Jan 2014 17:30:26
what date is it up?
{Ed002's Note - June 30.}
22 Jan 2014 16:47:09
Personally feel that without atleast 1 addition (ideally two) this month, then we will struggle to get top 4. It has been proven that without a defensive minded midfielder (ie Lucas) we are pretty poor a stopping the opposition from scoring, so a solid CDM is essential; what is concerning is Rodgers comments on how he feels that Gerrard really can continue to be the only 'defensive midifielder' in place of Lucas while he is sidelined as we can't keep trying to outscore our opponents every game, it simply won't work all the time if very often atall!
A winger it seems is the other position that we feel needs to be strengthened, as Countinho hasn't been great in recent weeks/months and seems to need a rest but as it currently stands we have no one to replace him.
These two positions have been of concern even when Lucas and Countinho were fit/playing well as its important to have other options but instead we failed to recognise this in the summer and bought unproven youngsters in alberto and illori who at 6/7million each, you would normally expect to be more than mere prospects and should be regularly part of the first team for that price; and chelsea and valencia cast offs in moses and cissokho.
I guess we'll see in the next week or so how much FSG and Rodgers REALLY want champions league football this year as I fear that Suarez and even Sturridge won't be around for much longer if we don't get it.
Where is Sturridge going to go? the stage is set for him to be at LFC long term with or without Suarez. The only team he would move to is back to City but he wouldn't consider that until he is at his peak in fear of being played out of position or playing as a backup striker.
22 Jan 2014 16:22:00
Starting to get a bit fed up with the lack of movement in this transfer window, only back in December BR was barking on abouth how small the squad is more players have gone out and now Lucas is injured . Was really hoping we made 2-3 good signings that can Help win us the 4 place spot! Can't see it happening unless we add now?
BR has done a great job but now is the time to back him in the market
Holding midfielder is now a must as we need to beef up the middle of the park!
Winger/ forward
I think we need a wingback more than anything.
22 Jan 2014 16:12:23
Utd panic about not making champs league spend £35 million on Mata.we are the closest we've been in years lose our strongest player and still mess about over prices Europa at best this year sorry
22 Jan 2014 16:35:07
Please list £35m players who:
A) Are as likely as Mata to actually be worth £35m.
B) Have a someway realistic possibility of wanting to move to Liverpool this month, and are at clubs who won't sell them this month.
Assuming we have £35m to spend on this window, which we probably don't because we're failing FFP.
If we even tone it down to what we REALLY need (replacement for Lucas), and a more reasonable price, I can still only see us panic buying someone who won't be worth what we pay for him in the long term, and may not even be good enough to help us into the CL positions between now and the end of the season.
Who is our strongest player, who we have lost?
Uhhhh. what? Mata has played in more games than people realize; his numbers are quite low for the amount of minutes he's recieved. There's no doubting he has talent, but I don't think he's worth 35 million on current form. Not to mention, that's the area united need the least amount of strengthening in, besides perhaps strikers.
In regards to your statement, why would anyone WANT their club to "panic buy?" No way would I want my club spending 10 million extra just to secure a player. The same bogus crap was preached this summer
"How can we get top 4 when we aren't buying Willian, Mickey, Costa".
Whaddya know, 1st place at Christmas break and 4th currently, with all to play for in the 2nd half of the season. Get a grip.
£10m or even £12m for Salah is reasonable no one is saying Liverpool must spend £22m for Salah. But to try and lowball a team for someone who's price tag clearly warrants more is pointless, it drags out the process which could have been completed weeks ago. And all its doing is making supporters restless, there is no negotiating genius being expressed by the club in doing so, it's completely pointless.
My point being that utd are spending so they have a stronger team to clinch a champs league spot and the rewards it gives, we light in the DM role a number of defenders that can't defend and people say don't panic buy.I agree but we must take a gamble as we now have 3 midfielders none of which can compete with the midfield of Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs or City.
22 Jan 2014 16:08:30
Hi eds,
I've just read that we are in advanced talks with Basel over the salah deal. Can you confirm that we are favourites to sign him and that we are in advanced talks now?
{Ed002's Note - We have no interest in discussing the player after the last lot of abuse.}
22 Jan 2014 15:20:56
So UTD getting Mata, well that puts them in top four at the expense of us. who we looking at? More bargain basement.
22 Jan 2014 16:04:42
A number 10 is just about the only position United weren't short on with Rooney, Kagawa, Anderson and Fellaini all capable of playing there. Moyes is an person if he blows his entire budget on Mata when he needs an entire defence and 2 midfielders. Still, I'm not going to complain. If Chelsea sign Mata that sends Rooney to the bench or out the door. They won't be any stronger than they were. The other scenario is they put Mata out wide where he is far less effective in which case its an average signing anyway. Mata would've been great for us to play in the hole, but for United its just a big money signing to appease the fans. It won't help them much if at all.
YNWAdam
A pointless post really. Would you swap Suarez for Mata? let's wait till the end of the window.
We won't even get any bargain basement. lol
Absolutely shocking transfer window by all involved.
Seriously missed a trick, we won't get another chance at top 4 for a long time.
Spot on regarding Mata Adam. However, MrT has a point about bargain basements. We need two first team impact players. Defensive mid and left back.
22 Jan 2014 15:14:25
Seamus Coleman is fine. #LFC v #EFC
Don`t care.
Depends who you ask. I am more into the ladies myself, but respect your comment and persuasion.
22 Jan 2014 14:57:02
Ed001/002,
I have asked around about Kovacic, but none of my contacts have any idea about his availability and interest from others. Wondering if you could shed any light on his situation.
I still believe Salah will sign, there haven't been any developments that as far as I can tell, however the club do maintain confidence.
Cheers,
{Ed002's Note - He is fine where he is and certainly won't be moving this month.}
22 Jan 2014 14:56:21
Ed001,,
could you inform the club shop that I think they are missing a trick,, a january style advent calender needs to be introduced with a photograph of a POTENTIAL signing in each of the 31 windows to satisfy the needs of many supporters,, plus a sweet in each that takes a minimum of 24 hours to suck.
22 Jan 2014 14:28:35
Really sorry to here about your bad health and wish you all the best for the future. I live in st ives, cornwall and cornwall and have never seen Liverpool play at anfeild. been to anfeild to watch England a few years ago but not the same and would absolutely love to go if you are interested in getting rid of your tickets I will happily buy them off you.
thanks James
You should reply to the original thread. This post was confusing until I saw Malak's post.
22 Jan 2014 14:17:12
LFC are not going to sign anyone this transfer window. We are turning into a joke, the mancs are having a bad season and are only 6 points behind us!!
Every Transfer Window we see posts like this.
Who have United/Everton/Arsenal /Spurs/Man City/Newcastle bought this window?
The premier league is full of joke clubs.
Please calm down to a panic, your attitude is the joke
What are you saying? Can you guarantee a CL place if LFC sign "anyone"?
Poor post and the only joke here is you mate.
22 Jan 2014 09:13:54
Greetings Ed, with the window about to close do you anticipate any moves from us beside the waste media is feeding us, 2nd Its some thing I asked a while back regarding a player we all proud of in South Africa by the name Siyanda Xulu currently playing in the Russian leg.Thanks for the quality work and compliments to the new year kind regards Tims uncle
{Ed002's Note - I am sure you will see some movement. Siyanda Xulu is not a player Liverpool would enquired after.}
22 Jan 2014 11:17:10
Eds, is it true Ever Banega is available this window for less than 10mil euro? Surely he would fit the profile of a player for our midfield. Good tackler, good passer, can dictate the tempo of a game and fits a position we need filled.
{Ed001's Note - yes, but he is available because he causes problems off the pitch, not what we need.}
He is quite an amazing "player". I am surprised the Cam companies didn't seek him for advertisement.
With Lucas, Suarez, Coutinho etc would make it very easy for him to adapt socially to the club & country (as they are all humble). we would then get a player that can control the game with ball distribution, defensive smarts and provide extra creativity within the midfield. Offer £6m + Aspas which would be like giving them £13.9m.
Add to the forwards by getting Mohamed Salah for £12m. The transfer fee would be no more than £18m for both players which is really good value as they would probably both go straight into the starting 11.
If LFC can manage to complete the loan deal for Coates to Nacional then that would also save them a few pennies as will Ilori going out on loan. Use Jordan Ibe in a more advanced role when needed to compensate for lack of strikers as he was a striker when we got him from Wycombe. with his pace, strength and good close ball control(which is better than sterling's in my opinion) he could thrive in one on one situations against centre backs.
It`s not that simple, my friend.
22 Jan 2014 13:10:12
Not many posts about this morning. Not many answers from the Eds either. Summits happened Eds?
22 Jan 2014 12:54:00
Any idea why the 'remember me' function isn't remembering me?
Have to log in before every post!
{Ed033's Note - this typically happens if your browser is set to clear your cache on closing the browser, therefore removing the cookie that was placed on your device to 'remember' you
22 Jan 2014 13:44:49
Ah ok. Thanks Ed! :)
22 Jan 2014 13:51:21
Why on earth would somebody set there browser to clear all evidence of previously visited websites after it is closed? Not trying to hide anything from the wife are you? ;)
YNWAdam
If you wanna do something on the sly mate, use chrome and hit ctrl+shift+n
22 Jan 2014 18:34:11
I'm posting from an iPhone lads, and I don't even ever close the page down, rather just keep it open in the background!
You could also use Opera and you can select open private page, which clears all when closed. It can be also good for blocking pop up ads and the likes.
22 Jan 2014 12:32:57
Ricky Lambert. that has to be a joke surely, not according to the BBC!!
Cabaya and Salah definitely, but please God no to Lambert. Lallana or Rodriguez fair enough!
Ricky Lambert? Surely this is a joke right?
Please explain more?
Sorry, my mate read it wrong….goes on about Liverpools transfer of Salah and proposed transfers of Cabaye and Lambert. I've just read it, and I think its talking about them as separate issues (thankfully!)
Sorry guys
Talk about jumping the gun eh'.
Atleast Matt explained himself.
22 Jan 2014 12:29:37
I've got an idea.
From now on, let's just pay whatever the selling clubs want.
£13 million for Salah? No problem, let me just whip out the chequebook.
£15.4 million you say? Agents fees and tax you tell me?
Yeah, why not. It's not like its real people money is it?
Oh, rival bid? **** it, £20 million all in, 8's over queens!
We really don't know anything about what's happening. Cool heads gents, there is time.
And just quickly, before anyone starts.
Carroll £35 mil
Downing £20 mil
Suarez £22 mil
Sakho £18 mil.
Just a quick example of FSG buying players for big bucks. Just so nobody comes out with a fruitless 'they won't spend big' post.
3 of the above were completed in the last few days of the windows. So nothing going to happen till the 28/29th at best.don't expect over £20m on one player though.
Ynwa
Best post in a long time
22 Jan 2014 13:43:02
I don't expect £20 million signings at any point during the window.
Just seems stupid of people to claim they won't spend big, when the evidence clearly suggests otherwise.
Any £20 million signing will get the same level of support from me as any we sign for £3 million or get on loan.
I think many folks were expecting too much this window.
I think Salah is probably the only we might get.
I will support whatever the club thinks is best regardless of whether I agree or not. That`s what true fans are all about. We have been great overall this season WITHOUT these 20m pound signings w/ the 2nd best attack and 7th best defence as well as the 2nd best goal difference (will be critical come May as City won the league on goal difference) so we`ll have to wait and see.
22 Jan 2014 12:22:32
Poor young Samed Yesil is out for the season yet again. He has suffered a new injury in the same knee and will need another operation. I fear this talent will fade away with injuries, but certainly hope he will recover!
22 Jan 2014 13:26:12
Its got Harry Kewell/Rob Jones all over it. Another talented young man with nothing but sky as his limit see's a big treatment table sized wall block his path. Yesil has so much potential as well :(
YNWAdam
Shame. The young man has a lot of potential. Let's hope he recovers from this and goes on to have a good career.
That boy is a talent, no question about it. The germans don`t call you "little Muller" if you suck. I just hope and pray he can get his career back on track.
22 Jan 2014 12:21:29
I can't take anymore. As a fan I was over at the villa match and we looked a little jadded through out the team. So this window is killing me. if we don't go for the throat in this window. I can't see the top four and if we don't get it I fear for the future. I hope i'm wrong but I can't stop this feeling. YNWA
22 Jan 2014 12:30:28
You are spot on. We need Top 4, and we are almost there, We need a couple of aditions.
Its shame BR never adressed these critical issues in the summer.
I went over myself gutted with how bad our full backs were and how stupid rogers was to drop lucas and play 4 attackers in front of to center midfielders most noticeable attacking minded midfielders how stupid could you be we paid the price
Agree 100% big stu ni. I said a few months back that we need to sign some quality not just squad players. We are carrying too many (Moses, etc) Can we hold on to Suarez is if we don't qualify for the champions league? There are possibly 4 teams after the 4th spot & maybe 6 after the top place, with better bench strength. We mean to show that we mean business. YNWA
Relax dude. It was a bad game for us and like you, I was tearing my hair out during the game. But, luckily we remain in 4th and let's hope BR realized the tactical error he committed and won't repeat it again.
I no but like the 1 match I go to watch that was hard to take I had no internet either so was holding in my rant haha
Yes we are still in fourth just! But still there. This is why we need to strengthen as we have had a few pieces of luck with results going for us. Sooner or later that will run out! Then we will be caught in the head lights. I repeat I really want what is best for LFC.
Big stu, could you please just calm down? U going to have a heart attack bro. He made a mistake and rectified the siuation and we fought for the draw. If Lucas had finished the game, we would have fancied us getting the win. He`s learn`t his lesson and I trust won`t do it again. Just chill out and support the team.
22 Jan 2014 12:20:26
Just want to say what a shame it if for Yesil to have suffered such a big injury again. Real shame for the lad. I honestly hope he can shake it off after a good recovery period and still be the star we thought he would.
Such a shame.
22 Jan 2014 10:40:09
Jose Mourinho just makes himself look more ridiculous each time he gives an interview. He has zero class, dignity and feels he can say whatever wants because he's the media darling. Conversely we have a manager who may not be as decorated at Maureen but is a gentleman and is dignified and a super ambassador for our revered football club and its traditions. He was obviously alluding to suarez and I really hope Luis destroys Chelsea when they visit Anfield. In the famous words of one of our footballing sons 'I would love it if we beat them, love it'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25804307
Aye, the guy is a clown. I would have thought their relationship might count for something but he seems to have no problem bringing Brendan down in public.
Best to ignore the guy. Most of the things he says makes little sense.
I suggest you don`t bother to comment about the Moaning One because his hypocrisy knows no bounds. Notice he said that he was not talking about Moyes when talking about coaches who moan whereas Moyes moans all the time. The only reason he said that is that he knows Moyes might never be a threat to him but knows Rodgers might be just like Rafa later was. Rafa was right about one thing. If you are not a threat to Maureen, he will be your friend and say nice things about you BUT if he thinks you could rattle him in the near future, he starts taking shots at you. According to rafa, "Jose was my friend UNTIL I started beating him and our relationship detiorated". I would take his jab at BR as a compliment to what he as achieved overall this year.
For some reason the press seem to laugh at everything he has to say; after all, he's a 'breath of fresh air'. He seems an arrogant, stubborn, stuck up manager to me.
22 Jan 2014 10:34:11
Hey Eds,
Is there any interest in us for Steven Defour? He'd be an absolute gem in our midfield
Thanks
22 Jan 2014 10:32:51
Hi eds
Great job on the site - on here nearly every day!
Just wondering if we've considered competing with United for Mata's signature as he appears to be available? Not sure we are in a financial position to do so at the moment, but would be an unbelievable signing if we could pull it off!
Cheers
Jkm
22 Jan 2014 12:32:40
We Need a DM and LB/LW possibly, Mata, unfortunalty isn't the one.
UTD too are buying someone for the sake of buying or there should be an agreement in place for Roney coming summer.
I can't see Rooney/Mata /kagawa starting in the same game or same position
We don`t need Mata because we have issues elsewhere in defence and defensive midfield.
If Mata is available you do need him, because he is far better than the players we have got. I'm not saying we will buy, but if he improves your team then yeah you need him.
Carlitoc, We don`t need him REGARDLESS of his availability because a) we don`t need him b) we have coutiniho and suso who can play there c) we have no issues scoring goals and creating chances which would be his job d) we have other issues like fullback and DM spots to fix. and e) we will not spend 40m on a player that we fundamentally don`t need. The mancs are desperate for anyone regardless of price so they can get hosed if they like. We won`t.
22 Jan 2014 10:32:05
Nigel de Jong, a player who would add steel, but is he a liability? a red card candidate or a chance we have to take?
this is my only concern, but I would take the chance.
22 Jan 2014 12:33:56
He is 29 and If we are supposed to pay 15 mill, Its a bad move, why not Mvilla. the lad is 23, Yes he has some offfield issue, so did suarez had, or Hernanez of Lazio.
De jong is a very good passer and ball winner BUT could be a bit rash in the tackle but I would take a loan if we can get it. We need cover for Lucas because God forbid, he could have a setback in his recovery and w/ no cover, we will be screwed. Also w/ De jong or any other, we won`t need to rush him back from injury just because we`re struggling in the DM position. and BTW, there`s nothing wrong with getting Lucas some competition.
People keep shouting about this guy and prob have never REALLY seen him play. He is not good enuff and his passing is abysmal. In our system, a DM just does not win the ball. He has to be able to start attacks from deep which Lucas (an ex-attacking mifielder) can do due to his skill on the ball and passing ability. As someone who has known him since his debut at Rennes in 2009, Mvila CANNOT fill this role. If we haven`t signed him yet then the club agrees w/ my opinion w/o knowing it. Just saying!
22 Jan 2014 10:31:29
Please tell me we are not going in for nigel de jong! I swear to god what is the point of signing a bench full of players that aren't ready for the premier league? Are starting 11 is strong if they are all fit but the rest of the subs are to young or inexperienced! i'm loving the style of football Rodgers has brought to Liverpool but i'm sick of us losing out on players because Liverpool will argue over the price!?! Salah is rated at 12 mil and we are offering 7-8? Would we let coutinho go for 8? Or sterling? No we wouldnt. this salah is a champions league player and we should cough up the money! Instead of signing second rate players like aspas, alberto, ilori. I can't see us loaning de jong but if we do I will start to lose faith in are transfer policy! Eds can u shine some light :)
He is proving in the pl
22 Jan 2014 11:39:59
Are you thinking of the right Nigel De Jong? He is first choice for AC Milan and was a regular fixture in the Man City XI that won the title. He is a very good defensive midfielder. His only problem is he can be a bit rash sometimes and he's 29, hence why I didn't think he would be considered by FSG. If we signed him, it would be a great bit of short term business. It could just be media bull though so if you really are disappointed by this link, don't shoot Rodgers just yet. I have seen us linked with Hernanes, L.Bender, V.Berisha and De Jong in the 24 hours since Lucas was ruled out for 2 months. At least 3 of the 4 will definitely not be signing, if any!
YNWAdam
Sorry Bigred29 but what planet are you on?
Nigel de Jong is proven in the PL, he's proven at all levels, even world cup finals (tongue in cheek).
Salah isn't proven in the PL and you want us to pay what you say he is rated at rather than what the club think he is worth.
Also since when are Salah, Coutinho and Sterling all the same in terms of value? Of course we would not sell Coutinho or Sterling for £8m as both are worth more. Nothing to do with Salah though.
Personally I would absolutely love to see De Jong signed. Yes he is a thug but he is top quality and he would be an improvement on Lucas who has not returned to his pre-injury levels. With Lucas injured he would be a huge improvement on anyone else we have for DM.
22 Jan 2014 12:35:37
YNWA
But Mate why did he leave to Milan, If he was influential, He would a decent adition sicne we don't have anyone to play as DM and also if it is a loan, He is 29, should go for Mvilla TBH
Go ask the City fans if they wouldn`t like to have him back instead of Javi Garcia who they sold him for? He is proven in the PL and is a title and FA Cup winner w/ City. He would defo do a job and wouldn`t mind him at all.
22 Jan 2014 10:06:18
Anyone who has been a regular on this site will know, I always support the manager and players and rarely, very rarely I slate a player or 2, (Downing)
Anyways here it goes, we will win games with Gerrard-Allen-Henderson, no doubt. Allen has already been injured twice and so has Gerrard.
If we don't sign a replacement for Lucas now I can 99% gurantee we will finish 6th at best.
And I read Rossiter this, rossiter that, from what I have seen and I get paid to scout players and that is not a joke. The kid is at least 3 years away from being even remotely close to make any kind of impact.
I was at the Stoke game, but lately I've been so depressed with our rubbish play and complete supportive fickle fans. I want to give away my tickets for the Derby and the Westbrom game, I'm done using my really hard earned money supporting BR & FSG, it's like they don't even remotely care if we don't finish in the top 4.
Sorry but the BS excuses about other teams squads and quality is nonsense, we have been first 3 timesthis season. Our first 14-15 players will get you top 4 with no injuries.
Sakho, Agger, Flanagan, Lucas, Allen, Coutinho, Enrique, Gerrard all have missed several weeks with injuries and only a fool thinks injuries won't happen again specially for a team that has 3 fit midfielders for 3 positions.
Its ridiculous, Toure has been brilliant when played at RCB, people want to slate without even thinking why his performances has dropped, its is because he has been playing LCB and he never mastered that side. I remember watching him in 2008 in th Can semis against Egypt where he got battered by Amr Zaki who scored twice at anfield if you guys remember. My point is Kolo Toure is only Brilliant as a RCB, not even LCB, so no he can most def NOT do a job there in DM what so ever.
Iam surely and slowly loosing faith in us being able to finish in the top 4, I always love Liverpool and support them, but I can't keep spending and throwing away my money like this when it's so obvious what will happen without a replacement for Lucas. I dream of being totally wrong, you see I love the taste of humblepie only if it's Liverpool related and like I said I hope Flanagan makes me eat humble pie because I doubted his qualities, ihope I'm totally wrong with this post.
Thankyou eds for the hard work. Peace
Ill have your derby ticket lad
22 Jan 2014 11:40:38
Don't go then, there are plenty of us who will.
Dave's dog
Surely you just contradicted yourself? Your post is the definition of fickle.
So you're basically saying we need to sign someone for DM.
22 Jan 2014 12:59:54
I agree Ryzaur.
How can we be closer to the top 4 than we've been in years, and so below par Malak?
Seriously, you've supported us through the dross of the Hodgeson era and watching Kenny spunk money like it's going the way of the Deutchmark, and now that our football is good (2nd top scorers in league and in 4th, higher than we've been in years) your dropping out?
Seems to me like your spitting your dummy out mate.
People here must think we won the league this year, given some peoples expectations.
22 Jan 2014 13:05:05
*hates fickle fans*
*is giving away tickets to the game of the season because we drew 2-2 with Aston Villa*
Seriously Malak, I've read your last few posts. Go and see a shrink before you end up drinking a bottle of Cillet Bang (or the Egyptian equivalent 'Salah Bang').
YNWAdam
22 Jan 2014 13:08:28
Me fickle? Haha, don't make me laugh. Learn how to read. I use a lot of money, I live in Denmark and my health doesn't allow me to do this anymore. I am done, last year I spent over £4000 on plane tickets, hotels etc. I was doing it this season too, my doctor said my blood pressure cannot take that 'away supporters life's so I came here to give away the tickets to any of you guys and get abused? Sorry I didn't share m personal reasons and illness with you!
I will go sell them instead.
22 Jan 2014 14:52:22
We can read, and we read your second paragraph which was embarassing. I'm sorry to hear about your health, but plenty of people get on with life whilst suffering from mental health issues such as depression (myself included). You didn't cite your health as the reason though. You just moaned about our small squad and "rubbish play". I can only dream of having £4k to blow on plane tickets. That is 40% of my annual wage! You have a good thing going there, getting to so many games. Don't throw it away because of a bloody transfer window and a few goals conceded. We've scored 9 goals in 3 games for christs sake! Regardless of the finances and health issues in play, this post is fickle. I usually enjoy your posts Malak and you seem a nice guy so don't take it personally, just stay positive mate. We are 4th over half way through the season with the second most goals scored!
YNWAdam
The problem is Malak, you didn't explain your ill health in your OP. I think the others thought you were just whining and replied.
I hope you get better but you need to keep supporting LFC man!
Sorry to hear about your health issues, Malak and hope you get better. However, I disagree w/ your post because it`s full of contradictions. You do know that if the season ended today, we would be in the CL, right? So how are we poor when we have the 2nd best attack, 2nd best goal difference and scored almost 100 goals in the past year? We`ve had setbacks but they are so few over the past year that`s it`s VERY unfair to say we`ve been poor. The Villa game is just one game we drew (w/ a whole 16 games left to play) and we`re still in position for 4th if not 3rd. Show some faith, bro.
Hey Malak
No point walking alone mate
I hope after a couple of good results over the next week you will be in better spirits
I would happily buy your tickets off you
if you still don't want to go
Regards
Arrow
22 Jan 2014 19:18:33
I will support Liverpool til I am dead, and I have said it before even if we were in league 2!
Nothing to do with the villa game lads, at all. more the fact lucas is injured and am dreading what we would do without him.
And the fact I can't go to the matches anymore, yesterday was the 'worst' day when I found out that I have something I can't control preventing me from watching Liverpool. I will keep supporting for ever. I just don't want injuries (squad depth)and mistakes in picking the starting lineup to ruin our best chance to return to the CL in 5 years.
If you haven't been to anfield on a Wednesday night then you are missing the best feeling of your life. Peace
Malak, God be with you and you have our support. We have had injuries thu the season. Yet thru will, guts, hadwork and a bit of luck we`re still in good position. Injuries will happen. BR has managed thing ok BUT we need to get the depth in if we can so we can make a good run at 3rd if not 4th. YNWA, my bro and stay strong.
22 Jan 2014 09:51:12
Morning Ed's.
An observation more than anything else to do with Man City. What I really like about Pellegrini is he appears to want to play his strongest 11 for every game and that's what most top sides have done in the past. Look at LFC in the glory days. Players like Phil Neal and Thomo were playing 60 games a year. Non of this rotational stuff.
I just think a lot of sides would do well to do the same.
What do you think?
JFT96
{Ed001's Note - he doesn't do that though, he shuffles them. Kompany and Toure rested last night, Aguero only played because he was coming back from injury.}
You do know that City can rotate their team and will still look like a strong 11 due to the expensive internationals they have as starters and on the benchwarmers, right?
Spat dummy out got slated backpeddled.
22 Jan 2014 09:30:01
Fellow Reds
some of the player's names being suggested here are beyond belief, to be honest.
We are haggling over 3/4 million on the Salah fee, having paid so much for other dudds already on our bench or going out on loan; yet people are talking about players in the £25M+ bracket! Come on guys, let's get real. we are where we are at and have to deal with it.
I hope we get Salah as his pace and goals will add an extra threat to any team. Salah, Sturridge, Suarez and Sterling (All s's) will scare any defence.
It's a defining season. here's hoping we are equipped to go for it despite any adversity thrown in our way.
YNWA
22 Jan 2014 13:03:00
Can you not see the reason we haggle over £4 million is BECAUSE we spent a lot on under performing players?
Bitten once, twice shy.
We`ve been bit before and NEVER again. However if we think Salah is the guy that can defo help us, then 12m is not that much to pay provided the staff think that highly of him. Studge was 12m and we paid it because we thought he would help us immediately and he`s panning out atm. So why not do the same for Salah? That`s just my opinion.
22 Jan 2014 08:36:55
Quick poll. What would fellow reds prefer if only one position comes in?
Centre Back
Left Back
Defensive Mid
Winger
Striker
With Lucas injury and severe lack of midfield depth, a big DM for me. Thoughts?
DM
Or Left back
DM definitely. Even before Lucas got injured.
LB I would say soldier on, we have enough cover until the summer (Johnson should be switched to LB and Kelly RB, Flanno will be back, Enrique will be back, Cissokho hmmm).
CB - we have loads, I don't care how unlucky we are with injuries we can't sign any more centre backs.
Winger - if they're good enough to start and versatile then yes please but otherwise don't bother.
Striker - don't bother, go with what we have.
We don`t need a LB because Enrique and Flanno will be back in a week to ten days. Sakho will be back next week too so we could be ok there. We need a DM and Kelly should be give a chance because GJ no longer seems to care that much anymore.
22 Jan 2014 09:43:37
Anyone who has been a regular on this site will know, I always support the manager and players and rarely, very rarely I slate a player or 2, (Downing)
Anyways here it goes, we will win games with Gerrard-Allen-Henderson, no doubt. Allen has already been injured twice and so has Gerrard.
If we don't sign a replacement for Lucas now I can 99% gurantee we will finish 6th at best.
And I read Rossiter this, rossiter that, from what I have seen and I get paid to scout players and that is not a joke. The kid is at least 3 years away from being even remotely close to make any kind of impact.
I was at the Stoke game, but lately I've been sodepressed
Agree on rossiter malak,, great potential and very high hopes for inclusion in the future but stranger things have happened as a place in the squad looks a possibility versus bournemouth. He has plenty of ability and his attitude is spot on but i'm not aware of to many central midfielders bossing games for a club of Liverpools stature aged 16.
That said the optimistic dreamer in me kicked in and I put together the team for the weekend based on brendans footballing philosophies,,,,,,
Reina
Ilori Sakho Agger
Allen
Mclaughlin Coutinho Smith
Sterling Ibe
Sturridge
Subs,,
Migs, Kelly, Flanno, Hendo, Rossiter, Assaidi, and Luis suarez incase things go pear shaped.
(i am aware this is at present not possible) Dream over,,,,
Delusional or Visionary??
Delusional - Reina isn't at the club mate, then again, neither are Assaidi or Ilori.
If we play that formation I'd like to see:
Mignolet
Toure - Sakho - Agger
Baio
McLaughlin - Rossiter - Smith
Sterling - Henderson
Ibe
Probably too many first appearances though.
Bless your socks cotton,,
did you not read the part where I stated in brackets that this at present is not possible.
i was trying to shoehorn ozone in at number 9 instead of sturridge but I feared he may have got sent of in the tunnel prior to the game arguing with aspas who he had selected to be the matchday mascot,,,,,,
Ha I will definitely hold my hands up there, woops, my apologies.
22 Jan 2014 06:54:51
BBC are reporting Liverpool are considering a loan bid for AC Milan midfielder Nigel de Jong, 29, as a replacement for the injured Lucas Leiva, 27. Personally I think that would be a great move he would put a bit of steel into our midfield and he has played in the league.
I second that.
22 Jan 2014 08:49:59
I see llori has made loan move to Granada now. Sorry if recycled news but couldn't find under search
22 Jan 2014 10:27:28
Bad news lads. Alonso has just signed for Real Madrid for £30m. You heard it here first!
YNWAdam
22 Jan 2014 05:39:43
Ed001, the contracts of following youngsters ends in 2014:
Stephen Sama
Jakub Sokolik
Conor Coady
Jack Dunn
Craig Roddan
Henoc Mukendi
Michael Ngoo
Villyan Bijev
Who all do you thin will get an extension?
Cheers
{Ed001's Note - Dunn is the only one that looks certain to get a new contract.}
22 Jan 2014 10:39:04
I hate the way we lose young players so cheap. Tom Ince, Alex Kackaniklic, Emiliano Insua etc. I don't understand why we can't loan them out and then sell them for a fee when they are worth a few hundred thousand or a couple of million. The 3 above are extreme examples as they are likely £5-10m players now but we need to look at this in future scenarios. Spearing for example was loaned about till he was 24, given a chance and fetched a few million that went back into the kitty. The only problem would be if these youngsters get put on large wages that prospective loan clubs cannot or will not cover. I'm not saying do this with every single player from the academy, but Stephen Sama and Michael Ngoo are good examples as they will leave for nothing and I gurantee you they will be involved in a 7 digit transfer before they are 23. Jack Dunn however is excellent and I doubt his contract will be left to run down.
YNWAdam
Adam, how many duds/failures do you sign on for years without making a breakthrough in order to make the few million? Ince went himself he was offered a contract but he knew he wouldn't play much so he rejected it. Kackaniklic would fetch like 3m now if even (can't believe we signed Konchesky). Insua wasn't getting games, he looked good going forward but it has taken a few years so I would say you would have needed to pay him 30k a week for 2 years before he would have been worth 5m (loan club might cover half of this maybe more but it's not worth the hassle).
Sama hasn't progressed, if he had we wouldn't have signed Ilori.
Ngoo struggled in Scotland.
Every team inevitably releases someone who goes on to be much better than they expected but you can't keep them all and the ones who are deemed most likely to make it will be offered to be kept on. E.g. Chelsea just got stung for circa £22m for Nemanja Matic after giving him away for practically nothing as part of the deal to sign David Luiz - they would have paid straight cash for Luiz if they thought Matic would ever have been worth £22m but it happens!
Agree, Sean Ireland. Young players don`t always pan out. How many young British players never got their chance at Arsenal (Sidwell, Bentley to name a few) but still had decent careers? Those things happen. Now, what doesn`t happen is selling a player for almost nothing and then buy him back for a king`s ransome like Chelsea did w/ Matic. That is just dumb but the media is hailing this as a master stroke because it`s chelsea (who can afford it so no worries) and maureen might moan if he gets criticized. If we had brought Ince back for 8m, the media would have called lfc wasters amongst all kinds of names. Just saying!
21 Jan 2014 23:51:42
General consensus is that if we finish in top 4 this season, it will be considered a success.
What though if the nightmare scenario occurs and we finish 4th but United take our spot by winning the Champions League. Does that mean goalposts move and it is an unsuccessful season?
Have you seen this united playing this season?
I wouldn't think so. I guess the main goal would be to achieve Champions League qualification. But at the same time, if you finish 4th in the league, that usually puts you into the Champions League qualifiers. And besides, it would be a 3 place jump in the table on last season. That's progress and the owners want to see progress.
There's probably more chance of Liverpool getting wiped out by a tsunami than ManU winning CL.
Haha.
United.
ha.
Win CL.
ha.
Post of the year.
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Still laughing while typing.
ha.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.
I would worry about getting into the top 4, not Utd winning the CL!
First of all, no. If we finish 4th regardless of champions league football that is a great achievement given we have been nowhere near the top 4 for 5 seasons now.
Secondly, Utd win the champions league? You're having a laugh aren't you?
I think you can be safe in the knowledge that if Liverpool finish 4th they will be in the Champions League next year. in other words the other scenario won't apply.
Man UTD 18/1 put £100 on them, atleast then if they do win champs league you'll pocket a nice little earner for your Liverpool misery.
I will predict it right now for you, United won't win the CL so don't worry about it.
22 Jan 2014 09:49:59
dont worry too much about that if we don't sort out defence midfield we will be about 6th imo and have you not seen utd this season against any team half decent bayern, barca.city, madrid, arsenal, chelsea.All these teams would beat them easily over 2 legs, even sunderland have a great chance to do that tonight.if I was looking at the team at the moment that looks more likely for 4th it would be spurs sherwood has them playing like a team now.We have times we look like a top 4 team and some halfs we drop to a lower end of the league this inconsistency may undo r hopes for 4th.
22 Jan 2014 10:25:23
I think their world has collapsed around them! An extreme culture shock! They can't handle it. They can still win loads on championship manager tho!
I also taught this we were not favourites in 2005 let's remember