Liverpool Banter Archive June 22 2013

 

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22 Jun 2013 22:32:58
Why don't you all give the new signings a chance before you judge them, seriously it's getting pathetic on this site for crying about signing this player and that player, we ain't got the money to go out and buy world class players, say if we did and the world class player turns out to be rubbish, then what would you think? Also you can quote stats all you want but the fact is that the players you quote stats about haven't played for Liverpool yet, so you can't judge them! They are playing in lesser teams! I for one am happy with the signings so far and I'm looking forward to the new season already

Ack17

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22 Jun 2013 21:32:01
Hi Eds. just a curiosity question. How at the teams chosen to play in the confederations cup. Thanks. Deejay. {Ed001's Note - winners of the regional championships, so European, Asian, Oceanic, South American, African and Concacaf champions. And the host nation.}

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And the world champions, so as Spain qualified in 2 ways Italy have qualified as European runners up

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And the world cup. Italy got in because they came second to Spain in Euros, who had already won the world cup.

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{Ed001's Note - winners of the regional championships, so European, Asian, Oceanic, South American, African and Concacaf champions. And the host nation.}
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And the world cup winners . most people ask why Italy is there . Its because spain are already there as world cup winners. so the European champion place went to the runners up.

Roy

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23 Jun 2013 00:15:29
And the World Cup as well ed. By the way, why are Italy in it? I can only assume it's because they were the World Cup holders before Spain.

An Dun Red

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Oceanic = Australian, Australia don't compete in this confederation as they don't feel it helps them develop as a team, they have FIFA sanction to compete in the Asian confederation.
Tilwud

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22 Jun 2013 20:50:33
Hi eds do u think mkhitaryan deal could be still be possible and can alberto play like countinho {Ed019's Note - Mkhi is still possible and I would think that Alberto and Coutinho would fight for a place in the 1st xi}

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22 Jun 2013 18:56:01
Liverpool ed, is mignoleit is good potentiality great keeper, do you rate him, thanks {Ed019's Note - Great player - although there is room for improvement. Check out my video on him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjgHsM3ve5g}

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I t seea lot of weaknesses to ignolets game

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22 Jun 2013 22:07:50
Big spending Monaco looking like where Reina will be moving to

Barry 1243

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Hope they do come in. They will pay a good price compared to other teams.

Chaki

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22 Jun 2013 21:53:37
PanARMENIAN.Net - Armenia and Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Henrikh Mkhitaryan commented on the situation with regard to his transfer and his whereabouts on his Facebook page.
"I am happy to see that people show keen interest in my career but I would like to ask all not only to refrain from making comments and but also to prevent the spread of unverified and false information, " Mkhitaryan said.
He said he has been reading various kinds of publications during the past several days, with many of them being odd. As for Ruben Hayrapetyan, the President of the Football Federation of Armenia (FFA), Mkhitaryan described him as a man, who exerted every effort to promote his career in best clubs.
Dwelling on his transfer, Mkhitaryan noted that his official representative is dealing with the issue. "I am not meddling with these affairs. If have a contract with a club, I just fulfill it, " he said. "If an agreement is reached between clubs I will be informed of the details and then will accept or reject it."
Mkhitaryan said he is currently in Paris, while media outlets "are making suppositions" regarding his travel routes. He said he didn't want to talk to journalists recently, as he cannot comment on something he is not aware about.
"A professional player has to obey the rules, " Mkhitaryan said, promising to inform his fans about the news through his page on the social network or the official FFA website.

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22 Jun 2013 21:50:38
Just watching the confederations cup and think it is complete joke how young Phillippe Coutinho isn't even in the Brazilian squad not to mention Lucas Leiva!

How does Scolari see Oscar as the Brazilians No. 10 in the hole playmaker. Yes Lucas Moura and Bernard are there but in my eyes Mr. Coutinho is on another level to Oscar!

I hopes he continues his form from the end of the season and helps destroy teams next season and that he will earn his place in his national side for the World Cup in Brazil!

Mikey LFC

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Oscar is brazils best player most games, and that is why he is there ahead of coutinho, i'm neither a chelsea nor a Liverpool fan I think you're being a bit biased, yes coutinho is good but that doesn't mean to say oscar isn't and countinho should be playing ahead of him.

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If Scolari does not recognise his talent then that's his problem, at least it gets rid of the risk of injuries he could pick up playing in the confed cup

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And would you be saying the same if they played for Utd or any other club? Of course not because your bias and believe or not Brazil have a lot of top class midfielders, so quit your moaning.

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Cause there are better players than those tbf

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Coutinho has been the talk of Brazilian football since his form in Liverpool. He will definately be there next summer!

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Hope he never gets picked for Brazil.

Don't want the lad picking up an injury or suffering fatigue.

Stay at Anfield lad.

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Wow. some response!

Im not moaning its just my opinion in how I see it!

I agree with few the last thing we would
want is for him to get injured but he has stated he is continually watching the tournament and has stated before he is itching to do everything he could to make his national team like all football players to play for the senior national side!

Overall I feel Phillippe offers more esp. key passes. through balls. Vision in this position and that what Brazil misses to play the likes of a Neymar of Fred in.

To the anonymous poster that said they have loads midfielders.Yes that's true Lucas Moura. wide attacking player for me. Neymar has that position cemented and Scolari won't drop Hulk. Bernard is another whom has burst onto the scene in Brazil but when he has come on doesn't seem the full article yet and Jadson.Coutinho is streets ahead of him.
Yes I am a Liverpool diehard and I support Liverpool players does not matter what nationality. But on footballing terms and what Coutinho would bring to that position for the brazilian side I would have him all day long over Oscar.

I would appreciate if these non name posters would enlighten me to what Oscar brings to the table more that Coutinho and no stupid replys like he is taller. higher price tag. plays for Chelsea. Simply Footballing terms and ability?

Mikey LFC

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22 Jun 2013 21:49:32
Hi eds.great work with the site before I start.just wondered if you would give your thoughts on luis alberto? Not really seen that much of him and thought you guys would have an idea if he was going to be a starter or more squad player.any feedback would be great.philynwa

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22 Jun 2013 21:29:37
Watching Aquilani against Brazil tonight. How on earth did we agree to pay £20m for that pile of rubbish? Pedestrian, uninfluential, missing.need I say more

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Not forgetting silly fouls mate!

RobInRed

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Reminds me of another £20m midfielder we have at the club.

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22 Jun 2013 21:11:08
iv heard a lot of speculation of torres being brought back last 48 hrs a lot of comments on various sites an tweets

any speculation on this?

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Lots of speculation, zero foundation .

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22 Jun 2013 21:05:01
Why are people so quick to judge mignolet? He's really good and I think it's great that he's close to signing for us. He's hungry to be the belgium #1 and makes it that much more attractive of a move to Liverpool. As for the suarez situation, he's embarrassed himself and the club enough that I want him gone. On the other hand, I would want either jackson martinez or aubameyang to replace him. If we can't get one of them, I'd rather us get some young forward to play third fiddle to sturridge and borini and not waste our money or get another RM and move aspas inside when needed. I think borini can be really good, but he needs time and the backing of the fans. You can't put all the eggs into the basket in one year. We're not city or chelsea so we can't splash out the cash and buy every person nor does every top notch player want to join us. Be patient and don't be too quick to throw backlash at rodgers and company. We will keep improving under him, but he needs time to get his players in. Feel free to put your insight eds. YNWA

NDred

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22 Jun 2013 21:00:00
Waro, you know how at a social occasion, there's that one bloke you and your mates can't stand, but you deal with it because you're all mates, as you all have things in common. no? That's because its you.
Youre not wanted here. your opinions are boring and not worth the read, the constant ed slagging then brown nosing them again. you're a deeply disturbed bloke, go get a hobby

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He might be negative but I wouldn't say he's not welcome here. He has a right to voice his opinion like everyone else. I don't agree with him, but I do agree with freedom of speech.

Nevada

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He might be negative but I wouldn't say he's not welcome here. He has a right to voice his opinion like everyone else. I don't agree with him, but I do agree with freedom of speech.

Nevada

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Ha ha ha ha, love all that me Benny, Knowing that I've got you wound up so tight that you don't want me on YOUR site literally makes my year! Love it lad L.O.V.E. I.T. Yessss, ha ha ha

Waro season ticket holder since 83/84 formally Kop, now upper centenary ;)

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Pointless post! We all have opinions (right or wrong). It would be better if some posters showed a bit more maturity.

The Irish Rover

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Forgot to say, been wearing superman pants since 1921, now wearing full spiderman suit.

K79

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Benny ball boy . you are a sheep who will just follow the herd and repeat what every other poster say without having an opinion or mind of you own . why don't you do one and go else where

Roy

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Waro, your welcome to voice your opinion anytime. Don't bother about those whining posters who know nothing of banter.

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Far from wound up waro. simply offering a solution to you're inevitably dreary life. you're around the 40 mark and your hobbies include spamming a banter website. Do you not have a wife and kids to spend time with? probably not as you'd always be complaining about them too. I would love to meet you in person. I imagine a pot bellied, yellow teethed, BO stinking, vest wearing, stella drinking, benefit collecting thief. but hey, that's just my opinion ;)

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PS still waiting for the photo of your son and the Liverpool player.

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I come onto this site to read comments about LFC not bitching from grown men/women!
I post on here sometimes but I never go back to my post to see what someone else has written because quite simply "I could not care less about what people on this site think about what I think! If that makes sense.
I always ask people to comment but that's basically done out of manners. (Really I could not give a rubbish).
The ed's on this site are amazing and I think they should be getting paid for basically conducting a psychological experiment which involves answering the same question at least 6 million times without being allowed to knock anyone out!
I respect everyone's opinion and the right for them to comment and if I come across a comment which I don't agree with or I think is completely stupid then I just whisper under my breath (my kids might be present!)
*N*BHEAD*
You should try it. It works.
Question for everyone.
Are you more of a Liverpool fan if you live in Liverpool than if you don't.
I know Liverpool fans in Liverpool that can't get tickets for the match so does that mean that they are degraded Liverpool fans because they can't go to the game? And are Liverpool fans who don't live in Liverpool even worse than Liverpool fans who do live in Liverpool but can't go to the game?
And what about Liverpool fans who live abroad. Are they even worse than Liverpool fans who don't live in Liverpool and those that do but can't get tickets? MY HEAD IS DONE IN LA!
It's like living in a facist state!
I welcome your thoughts:) seriously I do welcome your thoughts because I do read my replies because I am vain!

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We have become very self-defeating as a fan group.

Instead of acting like a load of whiny bitter losers, how about talking about points pertaining to Liverpool Football Club.
You are not compelled to post something every hour of every day. If you have nothing interesting to say then don't submit it.
The Eds are big enough (nearly) and ugly enough (really) to look after themselves.

So let's keep it relevant and stop bitching.

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22 Jun 2013 20:59:29
Mkhitaryan deal is in place with Shakhtar it is now a case of lawyers getting involved over fees to other parties! A LOT of paper work is involved along with Aspas so if Ayre pulls the 2 deals off I think praise is due! I expect Mingolet to be done on Tuesday and then 100% focus on Mkhitaryan Cheers PDLFC

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Not 100% Ilori and Arsu still on the go.

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22 Jun 2013 20:59:03
I do hope Macca comes back soon even if he doesn't have any info, he deserves credit and respect just like the eds for the work they do. And chill out guys bloody hell i'm sure we all have enough stress in our own lives without getting ripped on here too for voicing an opinion its meant to be an enjoyment not a chore

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22 Jun 2013 20:55:34
I am quite happy with Alberto signing he seems a very talented young player. I was talking to a friend and saying if we could sign another coutinho type player I would be delighted and I genuinely believe this guy could match him. From what I have seen, I think Alberto has a better shot on him, more accurate and has very intelligent movement compared to coutinho. not that coutinho's isn't good just he seems to get into better goal scoring opportunity's. We have a really could array of attacking player at our disposal for the season ahead and a few would technicians in coutinho, alberto, suso and hopefully mickey. who knows what will happen next season, are first game may be a rude awakening for the new players into the premier league. Will be a real test of there physicality. Brendan obviously rates alberto massiviely and I can see why. this lad has a massive highlight reel of assists and goals already and is really impressive in that respect, more so that aspas I should add. let's back him, could be a class player for us.

Danny

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He plays a different position to Coutinho, more of a false Nine, as much as it pains me to say.

Ciario80

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They are only similar in that they both have vision and both know how to weigh a pass. Otherwise they are totally different players.

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22 Jun 2013 20:37:34
Let me start by saying that this post is not designed to wind anyone up, ( but it probably will, ) I have read countless posts today praising the clubs signings so far, it's one thing being positive but some of you, I'm just not having it that these are your genuine opinions!

I think most of you are scared to give anything other than praise for fear of being jumped on by your brethren and reminded further down the line that you were less than complimentary about a player who may turn out a decent buy! You all rate every single player we sign yet have never ( in most cases ) even seen or mentioned said player before, then you reel of all kinds of stats to show what a fantastic buy the player is, how can every player we sign " really excite you " and make you " not be able to wait for the season to start ". It's not an opinion it's fear of being wrong and have it rubbed in your face further down the line.

Take Alberto as an example, I've watched quite a few clips today of the kid, and IMO he's all right foot ( his left looks like it's just for standing on ) and he looks ok with acres of time on the ball ( which he won't get here ), but doesn't look well balanced and a little lightweight, but that's just first impressions and you can't really form a cast iron opinion on youtube clips either way, but I will back the kid 100% and hope he does well!

But the regulars on here tell anyone who will listen that the player will be amazing next season and well done to BR and the scouts for finding them, COME ON NOW!

Just as people can unjustly slag a player off before he's kicked a ball, most on here go to the other extreme. But can anybody on here just give me an honest answer, why do you say that every player that Liverpool sign is going to be the dogs bo**ocks, that can't be your genuine genuine opinion people surely, but if you say it is could you explain to me your thought process behind it, and how you arrive at this conclusion on every player we sign!

Waro

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I think it's called optimism Waro

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I think it's called optimism Waro

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Thats a fair point I suppose, praising a player before kicking a ball is just as judgemental as criticising him, just a bit more positive is all.

I reviewed the signings earlier and gave a balanced opinion I felt. I watched a lot of football games over the last few days to educate myself on these players. I didn't just focus on the positives I highlighted their weaknesses as well. Not everyone says every player is the next pele, some of us just have formed opinions. conversely not everyone thinks every player signed will be a disaster. These two extremes only account for a small portion of the web traffic, as is often the case with extremes.

Nevada

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Just a quick question Waro,

Do you rate Morata?

Nevada

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To be honest, I don't know much about our new signings but I am excited about watching them play and seeing how they perform in a red shirt. That's probably what most people mean. Even most 'big' names (and not just long spelling!) take a season or so to settle. There's a lot of us genuine fans on here who have supported the club for long enough to remember what it was like to support all LFC players, new, good or bad, and certainly to welcome them to our great club and give them a chance to shine. If we don't get behind them and support them, how on earth do people expect them to settle and flourish. Fans are too quick to judge for my liking nowadays and should remember when they keep quoting that no player is bigger than the club, well no fan is bigger than the club either! Get behind the club, get behind the manager, get behind ALL the players and get behind the Eds or don't bother reading the site

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I agree mate the same was said about assaidi borini allen after some youtube clips see how they turned out.
7m for alberto without any first team experience and he defintely won't be a starter for us is a waste of money, we already have enough young players.

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This could be a first, but I agree with most of your post Waro. I'm off for a shower though as it's made me feel dirty!

Raoul

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They are prospects, they have potential. They have been hand-picked because they have talent and should fit in our system and flourish under BRs guidance. It's exciting. Get on the positivity train, Waro, and enjoy the ride.

cozinoz

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I actually just have a greater confidence and belief in our scouting network and ability to identify a Liverpool type player these days.

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Waro, Couldn't agree more! People can see from my past posts that I am not thrilled about some of the buys (or some of the buys from last summer) but that doesn't mean I won't support each and every player each match and cheer the entire team on. It doesn't make me any less of a fan than any of you just because my opinion (and that's all it is) is that the club could do better in the transfer window.

Kidmillions, I do agree that I have more faith in this scouting dept than in the past (based off the great signings from Jan). So I hope Aspas/Alberto etc all pan out and help the team but I can't help to be a little sceptical.

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I think if anything it's an overly optimistic view because we're afraid of what could possibly happen where they end up like our signings of the past few seasons. That being said most of our historically best signings have come from smaller lesser known clubs and our "big signings" whom we've heard of ended up flopping. It's up in the air for me

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Waro, spot on again lad.

Ozone

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22 Jun 2013 20:36:54
With us buying attacking players what have our scouts being doing dries mertens has just passed a medical at napoli reported to be 8.1 million fee, what a change he would make to our starting 11 missed!

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He was desperate to come to Liverpool and was hoping for a wage decrease too

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We can't buy every player.

KiwiRed

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Yes wage decrease because he mustve been on 200k per week for psv

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22 Jun 2013 20:33:31
Hi eds and all fellow reds I don't k.ow if this as been done to death or not but if when Suarez goes who will be looking at bringing in to replace him cause there's not that many players out there who could fill that big enough gap considering we don't have champs lge fball

And with all the usual suspects what people are saying like saldado cordoza and so on are these actually good enuf especailly with how camanding the premier league is with its pace and and the roughness I just want know who are realistic targets for us and for who's good enuf to fill suarezs gap cheers keep up the good work xx

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22 Jun 2013 20:28:45
There is a rumour that Tello has the same clause in his contract as Thiago Alcanataras and that he can leave for £10m. Any truth in this and could it be interesting for Liverpool if so?

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22 Jun 2013 20:28:00
Is there any chance of a decent player coming in to strengthen the first 11? Last time I checked our team was miles behind Arsenal Spurs ect in terms of quality and we seem to be linked with no one who will improve us. If Arsenal are signing the likes of Higuain what chance have we got of 4th if the best we can do (no disrespect) is Aspas? Mignolet Aspas Alberto Toure are these guys going to push us up the league? I can't see it personally
DBol

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22 Jun 2013 22:06:18
Couldn't agree more. Looks like Rodgers is trying to consolidate seventh. You wonder whether the owners have told him that there is no pressure on him next season.

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Higuain? Seriously! do you not think he's a bit slow to be £25m success story in the Premier.

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Stop your moaning will you, your like spoilt brats who can't get their own way.

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23 Jun 2013 00:29:29
Specsavers have good offers for the pair of you!
Or maybe you're completely blind the both of you!
You don't think Alberto is better than Shelvy? Or Aspas better than Downing? Or Toure better than Carragher? If that's your opinion fine, just man up and admit you're wrong when those players make you look really silly next season?
The unnamed poster is just a troll but obviously in love with Liverpool and scared his beloved bitters will have a tough long season!

[The only REDS]

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Kidmillions what has speed got to do with anything? Robbie Fowler, Van Nistelroy and Alan Shearer weren't exactly lightning quick

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22 Jun 2013 20:13:05
Dear eds 02

I'm sorry you are getting vitriolic prose from 'Leo the loser' but instead of over reacting and threatening to close the site down why don't you not post his comments? That way you render him impotent and millions can sleep easy at night knowing that when they wake up in the morning the Liverpool rumours site is still operating.

I appreciate the good work you do eds 02 but I can't help but that you abuse your power a little bit with your threats. you probably won't post this and if u do give me the opportunity of a right to reply much appreciated

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22 Jun 2013 20:08:43
Eds who do you believe we should and could get to rplace suarez

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22 Jun 2013 20:18:35
I understand the concerns of a lot of posters here. Last season we started off very poorly, not recording any win till Norwich, which was like the 7th game or so and even after that we were very inconsistent. This was because of our lack of attacking options till the arrival of coutinho and sturridge and then we started anhillating teams. This coming season however we'll be starting with even more attacking options (aspas, alberto, possibly mkhitaryan) and a better defense. We'll definately do better than last season, but with the top 5 also strengthening their squads significantly, and Suarez possibly leaving, I'm afraid that a 'better than last season's performance' won't be good enough for top 4. We have to replace Suarez with a proven goalscorer.

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22 Jun 2013 20:11:55
I was scrolling through the posts and it amazed me how many people want toshow up the eds or annoy ed002, it seems the minute you get a bit popular people are always waiting for you to make a mistake, just to show you up; also these people who are slating ed002 definitely don't know how hard it is to open a website, yet alone maintain it and make it popular. I had a go at trying to start a website myself but I din't even finish its hard work, so I can't imagine how hard it is to improve it, maintain it and edit it.

Its hard enough to do it for money, but to do it for free and only run on donations is really something to be admired. But yet again we have trolls and keyboard warriors injecting their poisonous opinions onto the site. The eds don't need it and the decent posters don't want to read it. Its annoying and time consuming and really p1sses the eds off.

Its also really funny watching some of these trolls fail in their attempts to annoy everyone, the liam fellow who feels his imaginary friends can crash the site, the leo fellow who keeps abusing the eds only to be finished by ed002 and other posters, pantpoon who poses as a Liverpool fan and the most annoying of the lot: no named trolls who aren't worth replying to.

But what is the point of all this trolling, what do these people get out of doing things like this, a golden medal, a trophy, a cookie, no they just get the satisfaction of knowing they annoyed others what sad little creatures, or gilfnards as ed002 would say.

So can these trolls go back under their bridges. You know its bad when an editor thinks of closing down the site. Finally please cut ed002 some slack and try not to get on his nerves, because he could be watching, watching and waiting, so enough with the questions. However on a serious note ed002 does put a lot of work into this site so show him the respect he deserves, even if his opinion conflicts with yours.

Lil Red

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22 Jun 2013 20:10:21
Christian Atsu
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Attribute------Rank-----------
Goals-------Lower than 20th--
Assists-----Lower than 20th--
Shots------Lower than 20th---
KPPG-------Lower than 20th---
SOG--------Lower than 20th--

I have to confess that it was hard getting video for his games as his appearances were low and often not for full 90mins. However I still feel that I can give an accurate reflection of what to expect. In my opinion he is still incredibly rough, he often get's called the ghanian messi because of his speed and dribbling ability, however I would think he is more comparable to another african player, Gervinho. Both have a similar ability to dribble and move at pace with the ball, and a tendency to do nothing once they have moved. His contribution to the team goals is a quite pitiful less than 1% (Though it must be remembered he rarely played full 90 mins). I'm struggling to see why we are interested as in my opinion we already have a player similar and better in Sterling, who has already adapted to the league. I even think that Ibe is also better.
Strengths - Very very quick, Dribbling, work Rate, Stamina, Strength
Weaknesses - Passing, Shooting, Crossing.
Likened with? Sterling.

Henrikh MKhitaryan
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Attribute-------Rank-------------
Goals-----------1st--------------
Assists---------4th--------------
KPPG-----------Unavailable------
Shots----------Unavailable------
SOG-----------Unavailable-------

As with Luis Alberto it was tough to get complete data or 'Mickey' as he has become known on these forums. However I think the info available plus the games I've seen have given me a good impression of him. He is a very fast player and has improved his goals year on year and is responsible this year for 39% of all goals scored by Shakhtar. In addition to this he is a player with a winning mentality, he has won a trophy every single year in Ukraine. I really think he could be an outstanding signing for us and in my opinion is clearly ready to make the leap to a more competitive league (though ukraine is not easy like people think).
Strengths - Ball control, Dribbling, Shot Accuracy, Passing, Vision, Creativity, Very Fast.
Weaknesses - Work Rate, Strength.
Likened to? - Imagine if Steve Mcmanaman had better shot accuracy and passing.

Hope it's been informative, any comments are welcome and appreciated.

Nevada

*Special thanks to ED002 for solving the mystery of the missing post. Thanks ed.

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Thnx for the effort put into that Nevada, intresting read.

Waltonred

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22 Jun 2013 20:15:01
{Ed030's Note -Another blog,You can read it here http://www.player-ratings.co.uk/playerratings-blog-6-my-take-on-the-suarez-situation.php thanks!!. }

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Loving these blogs ed!

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22 Jun 2013 19:44:13
Already impressed by LFC's newest signing . granted players always have politically correct speeches ready:

"I feel very excited, I've never felt so excited before but I'm very happy. I think I am the happiest man on earth.

"I was surprised [when Liverpool showed interest in me]. You never expect this to happen to you. But as the deal moved forward, I became very happy and I wanted to come to Liverpool.

"I have come here to enjoy moments with the supporters - and I know the supporters will help me to never walk alone.

"I hope that between us all we can make this club one of the greatest in the world, once again."

Well done son!

AmRed

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Ye it stood out to me sounded less typical like more heart in it he said aswell straight up I came cause the manager and the style of play. seems well up for the challenge and let's hope more hungry additions

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22 Jun 2013 19:43:44
Can I just state something to show how bad Liverpool are in the transfer market!

Dries Mertens moves to Napoli for 8m while Luis Alberto moves to Liverpool for 7m!

Sort it out Liverpool!

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Your point is?

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What a donut! Some people just don't understand! Don't comment on things you have no idea about.

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Can I just state how bad a supporter you are he hasn't even played for us yet and you have probably never even seen him play and already your slating him.

Sort yourself out

Gaz

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Did you ever consider he didn't want to come to Liverpool or Liverpool didn't him. We can't buy every player on the market, Simonpw

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22 Jun 2013 20:43:25
Just to beat Ed02 to the punch line. you can't compare transfer fees

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It just shows how incompetent Liverpool are to spend 6m on an unproven player when mertens is a far better

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It's not that simple man

NDred

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Mate posts like yours really bore me
MikeyD

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And you've watched them both extensively to make yourself unhappy - has it even crossed your mind that the particular player you mentioned wanted CL football, and a better climate than th EPL has to offer.

Wake up to reality.

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Go and support napoli then, if they interest you so much. kyb.

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I don't get it, Luis Alberto is going to a fantastic signing.

As Ed said we paid twice what Barca agreed to pay one year ago for him. Since that agreement he had a brilliant season at Barca 'b' which increased his value.

Barca have an eye watering amount of debt. I think we will see we got a gem of a player.

Our problem started in 2009/10 we are only just turning the corner (hopefully), so give over with your dribble and start supporting your club!

K79 {Ed002's Note - No, they simply did not want him.}

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Barca just like other clubs can't sign every player and do make mistakes(Jordi Alba)
Who's to say Barca won't be trying to buy him off LFC in a few yrs time.

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22 Jun 2013 19:28:40
ok this is my opinion so bare with me brendan rogers said he wants to add depth to are squad and seems a number of targets will arrive to do that this summer.
i am well aware of the fact we are no man city and limited to what we can bid for but i'm worried for the likes of assaidi, pacheco, suso, shelvey, ibe, morgan, yesil, and a whole host of other youngsters that are probably as good as the likes we are looking to bring in .
seeing two attacking players in and a host being looked at i'm sure suso for one will be looking very worried for his place, if we send these guys out on loan we then see us starting with a host of newbies still trying to settle to life in a iverpool shirt which is not ideal .with out a doubt we have the best production line in the premiership but these will only progress with game time and for me sending say suso out on loan and bringing in alberto is not going to improve the squad in the short term, and if we keep suso how will he get the time on the pitch he needs with alberto, alpas and possibly atsu and micky joining as well, when you chuck in the likes of sterling, borini and shelvey things become very congested.
im really excited about the players we are looking at but worry some like ince will get bored of reserve football before there chance for first team football
arrives.

mystic red

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Unless we sign ince it will make no difference to him who we sign

Gaz

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Who's to say that the likes of Suso etc won't say to themselves, " Hey if I get a chance, I've got to play out of my skin and train the same every day to keep my place etc. It's the competition that's needed across the whole squad to keep every1 on their toes, day in day out and week in week out. Those who don't rise to the challenge or make the grade won't succeed. It's the way it should be imo. The cream always rises to the top so they say. A winning mentality running through the squad from preseason until May, that's what BR wants and doesn't every Liverpool fan? But hey, that's only my opinion, feel free to agree or disagree, Simonpw

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Very valid argument mystic red.all I can really say to that is that's the business end of football.lets just hope when people work hard they get the recognition they deserve and there chance.which I believe Rodgers will be sensitive to that because he knows what its like trying to make it and he has put trust in the youth since coming in.but I think its virtually impossible not to have good players leave for whatever reason so let's hope lfc start to include buy back clauses with there youngsters like the mighty barca.very good point tho

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You misunderstood gaz I was referring to the fact ince left us a couple of seasons ago because he did not see a way into 1st team not that we were buying him.

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22 Jun 2013 19:17:27
New Business - Part 1
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Good morning everyone, I thought that given our current flurry of activity in the transfer market I'd review our signings and potential signings, to write these reviews I used (my now expected) Statistical analysis, but also went to the effort of watching full 90 minute matches of each player as well. I made sure to watch 3 games where they played well and three where they played badly so I could have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. I apologise for the length of this post, If you can't be bothered reading I suggest you skip ahead. Here we go.

*I didn't do Toure since we all know him pretty well.
*KPPG = Key Passes Per Game, SOG = Shots on Goal
Iago Aspas
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Attribute-----Rank--------
Goals---------16th-------
Assists--------16th------
KPPG---------13th-------
SOG----------5th--------

I've seen people compare him to a spanish craig bellamy, and I'd say this is fairly accurate. Not as quick as bellamy but certainly as feisty and difficult to play against. He is pretty strong on the ball and with an excellent first touch and good shot accuracy (50% - Suarez was 43% this year). He is not that prolific at present but it is worth noting that he was responsible for 46% of Celta Vigo's goals last year. So he is both creative and scores when given then chance. He is physical as I mentioned before so should not get bullied out of the game, and is generally very consistent.
Strengths - Ball Control, Accuracy, Creativity, Consistency, Big Game Player
Weaknesses - Temperament, Could be more prolific, Can sometimes play with his head down.
Likened with? Craig Bellamy

Luis Alberto
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Attribute----Rank------------
Goals--------14th-----------
Assists-------5th-----------
Shots-------Unavailable-----
KPPG--------Unavailable-----
SOG--------Unavailable-----

It was hard to do statistical analysis properly for Luis as records aren't kept of some the things I looked at, but you can see he didn't do badly (Was only 1 goal behind Morata as well)His game is focused on finesse and thinking quicker than the other players. He has a wonderful knack for finding space and creating space, and is not shy of a spectacular goal or two. He was responsible for 39% of all goals scored by Barca B.
Strengths - Control, Reading of the game, Passing (long and short), finding and creating space, Shooting.
Weaknesses - Can sometimes drift in and out of games, Stamina, Work Rate.
Likened With? Luis Garcia

Simon Mignolet
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Attribute-----Rank-----
Conc---------11th-----
Clean Sheets--5th-----
Shots Faced---2nd----
Saves---------2nd----
Save %-------6th----

Some of his stats actually surprised me, and I do this pretty regularly. Finding out he had the second highest amount of saves in the league the 5th most clean sheets was very surprising. Even more so was that his save percentage is 6th best (Reina was 13th this year). I fully think that with a good defence in front of him (instead of the shambles at Sunderland) he could be in the top 3 best keepers in the league.
Strengths - Shot Stopping, One on ones, Agility, Ability under pressure.
Weaknesses - Crosses, Stays on his line too much, Distribution.

. Please see part 2

Nevada

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Fair play mate, obviously a lot of effort put into that!

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Thanks mate, there's a second part on it's way reviewing Atsu and Mkhitaryan as well.

Nevada

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Good read mate
MikeyD

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Cheers mate

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22 Jun 2013 19:13:58
ed do you know if its true that Inter are now trying to sign Mkhitaryan? Cheers {Ed002's Note - He is being offered around - I am not aware of interest from Inter right now but there is interest from Italy.}

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22 Jun 2013 19:06:17
ed's now that fred has signed for shaktar and shaktar manager saying he has sold three players does this mean mickey is one of those players signing for us or close to signing for us i'll appreciate if u can answer thanks a lot lfc-liquid {Ed002's Note - It is irrelevant to the matter in hand. Liverpool know what needs to be done to complete a deal.}

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SD have sold Willian, Fernandinho and Razvan Rat.

The real AG

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22 Jun 2013 19:05:40
Hi all hope everyone is ok . My take on the signings that BR is making is that he is bringing in hungry players who want to play for Liverpool . This in turn works out well for us as the players are going to work harder in training to be in contention for a starting place . You don't have to be the most expensive players in the world to be the best if you have the desire to succeed and remember even cavani started on a reserve team at some point . Oh and please Leo give your head a shake as this site might just shut down because of you being a knob .
YNWA
Jamesy

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22 Jun 2013 19:00:13
Good Saturday evening Eds and fellow Liver Birds.
I never comment on this site, however I do read the posts every day and simply enjoy the comments, laugh at some, grind my teeth at others, but generally love the information given with a somewhat knowledgable back up. 90% of the time!

I was just thinking to myself re-recent posts and wanted to get the Eds thoughts. ( I am sure this has not been answered before) . Brendan Rogers has been a wee bit coy over Luis Suarez's situation with regards to whether he actually will be sold or not. As far as i'm concerned my main concern is the fact that LFC have in recent times dropped so many points early on in the season. Thus being a huge influence in the final standings Suarez will miss the first 6 games (18 points max) so why are LFC not totally putting all efforts in moving him on and getting 1 maybe 2 replacements to aid the fantastic Daniel Sturridge and possible great Borini? don't get me wrong we all love Suarez and the impact he has made, but Sturridge and
other top names can do the same.? I am all for attacking midfielders and up and coming Strikers, however there are plenty of Poachers out there who can bang in 18-25 goals with the support of Couthinio, Gerrard etc.
Yours and other reply thoughts would be very greatful.
Si {Ed002's Note - Liverpool are well aware of the interest of a number of other clubs and that bids will soon be made.}

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Good point made. i'm sure there are many more out there whom agree with this post!

Zack

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Full Brendan Rodgers interview on Si, makes for good listening, also gr8 news about SG recovering well. I gather from the interview that Suarez won't be going anywhere unless Liverpool get exactly what they want for him. Mignolet is competition for no1 jersey along with pepe and brad. All in all i'm very pleased with how things are developing, given Allen and Kelly will be like another 2 new signings this season too. If rumours are too be believed business is not finished yet either so, with or without Luis, imo we can really kick on this season and challenge not just for top 4 but for the title. Well I am the eternal optimist ha ha, but why not go into a new season with high hopes for a change. I know its early days and the windows not officially open yet but given how well we played towards the end of last season, with the players reported to be added to what we have, for once the teams above us don't seem to out of reach. Well that's my take on it anyways, YNWA Simonpw

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Well in bud bita sunny optimism on this wet june day.

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It's not the first 18 points it's only 12pts
2 of the first 6 games are League Cup.

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22 Jun 2013 18:45:52
No offense I don't think we need to spend 7m on an unproven player like alberto when we already have enough of them at our academy. why don't we give them a chance??

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Perhaps its because BR and his backroom staff feel that the academy players are not ready to make the step to first team regulars. Maybe just maybe Liverpool sent some trusted scouts out to watch Alberto and feel he would be ready to go straight into the first team squad. Then again maybe they just watched clips of him on YouTube and based their decision on that!

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You should read the article on the LFC TV website about buying and developing unknown players, it's very insightful. I would be surprised if BR and team are buying upcoming talents to stifle the youngsters we've already got. They probably have a solid understanding of skills and positions we need to enhance and are doing just that. No manager gave youth more of a chance last year than BR and if he feels the need to bolster the ranks it is probably baseyd on something. Also, Guillem Balague rates this guy a lot and he watches Spanish teams all the time. If we don't buy these stars of the future now we will have to pay top dollar later. Look at Aguero, we almost bought him for about £12M as an unproven player with a reputation (like Alberto) and now he's worth £40M+. Just a thought

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I was thinking something similar, i'm sure he'll prove to be a good signing but how does this affect Suso, Sterling and the likes?

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It's got nothing to do with what we need mate. It's The hedge fund concept. There are certain positions that carry a better resale value.

Ozone

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Why? We can have them now for 7mil before they are worth 22mil and want city united or chelski

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Hedge fund concept?

Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever ozone. But good to see you've come out of retirement. Waro has been struggling without you.

BigBadBen

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Unlike you and many many others Ben, I don't need back up, TRUST ME!

Waro

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Ben

Resale value=hedge fund

Ozone

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I honestly don't think we have a player in the reserves who can get the same amount of goals from midfield as this player. Texiera Suso and sterling are not as prolific in front of goal as this lad. I can see him taking Shelvey's role in the squad and can see exactly why the manager has gone for him. Shelvey was given plenty of opportunities last season and in my opinion didn't deliver.His touch and pace let him down to many times and his reckletvess in the tackle was also an issue.I think he will go and I wish him all the best, but let's give Alberto a chance to show what he can do before we judge his value for money.

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22 Jun 2013 21:54:53
Are these the same "trusted scouts" whome brought us the marvel that is (the assasin) Assaidi AND Joe (the hammer)Allen?
Touched lucky with Coutinho but I always trusted Sturridge would bag em. Still not a liked player from what I see?
Am I wrong?
Ynwa

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If he was bought for resale value. why the hell did we spend 7m on him? And why did we sell Carroll for 15m? You're hedge fund theory sucks Ozone

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So you think needed scouts to sign Joe Allen?

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22 Jun 2013 18:42:38
Ed's. I noticed ed002 say you can't block people from posting which makes sense whilst it is an open blog. To remedy this could you not make it that you have to sign in to post comments etc? That way you could block the users email from having an account? People who don't sign in could then continue reading through the posts but would have to sign in if they wanted to post. Just a thought :)

Cheers

100% Cotton

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22 Jun 2013 18:40:04
Asking this question to Eds to settle an argument with an Lfc friend.

An apparently reliable source told my mate that if Suarez goes he will be replaced by torres.

I told him it wouldn't happen, FSG would not be interested in a 29 year old with a massive salary, who's best days are way in the past.

Please confirm. Cheers

Jimbob {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

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1st post 4 ages, will b last 4 ages tbh from a longstanding loyal fan of your site.

It was a specific question 4 Ed's with vast your knowledge, about a specific rumour today.

The search brings up torres related stuff, doesn't answer my question & certainly nothing from the ed's.

Jimbob {Ed002's Note - Torres will not be returning to Liverpool.}

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Genuinely thanks ed02, 100% trust your comments.

Jimbob

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22 Jun 2013 18:26:58
"Disagree completely with Sydney's 2nd reply. Just because you have not heard of a player does not mean they are not good; rather it probably points to your lack of knowledge in terms of keeping up to date with football.

The real AG"

AG, IMO Liverpool needed to sign 3/4 TOP outfield players and promote youth instead of one top(ish) player, a 33 year old and six potentials (who will block the current youth by the way). BR will not be given the time to see how these players turn out. He will be sacked if you finish outside the top four next season and I genuinely believe you will with these players. Liverpool have enough youth and potential, it's quality you need, not quantity.

Disney!

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22 Jun 2013 18:51:09
Think it is a matter of quality and quantity, too many games last season when you looked at the bench there was little there that could change a game. football these days is about the quality of your squad not just eleven players.

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Anyone who said they had heard of Alberto prior to the Liverpool interest are telling porkies. Liverpool have several young players who play in the same positions as the players bought or being bought. Why couldn't Liverpool have bought 3/4 top players and let the youth fill in the gaps?

Disney!

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I agree with you that quality and quantity is what LFC need this summer. But then, how do you defi.e quality? BR sees Alberto, Aspas, Mignolet as quality. I am sure that it is CL or bust next season as I have said in the past.

I think BR can improve and make theae plahers step up to the nexf level.

The real AG

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Disney as lost the plot. I love it.

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AG, so do you think if BR had £200m to spend and could offer a player CL football, he would have signed Mignolet, Aspas & Alberto? We know he wanted Begovic, but he was deemed too expensive. Liverpool need ready-made quality, not potential. There is enough potential already in the squad.

Disney!

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Sidney if its more about the amount of quality in the team how did utd win the league instead of city. City have quality in every position a team of superstars. Most utd players are past there best. The only 2 in your team that looked top quality were rvp and Rafael. At times maybe kagawa. The difference was utd played as a team more. How many of dortmunds team would you have wanted at utd 3 years ago and look at what they did 2 seasons ago even though Munich has a team of super stars. Br must see potential in these players and must think they can fit into the team and do the job he wants.

Gaz

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Sydney you are just scare mongering mate, I Don't care if you don't think the lad Alberto his worth investing money in. I think he will.The lads a proven goal scorer from midfield and that's something we haven't had for along while.Time will tell who's right.

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All quiet at Man U Syd? Still trying to find a buyer for Rooney so you have a transfer kitty?

Regarding your concerns for Liverpool, I feel maybe misleading as to why you are concerned ;)

K79

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22 Jun 2013 18:15:34
Ed002:

The time, effort and knowledge you put into this site is nothing short of impressive and I think I speak for 99% of the fans on here when I say thank you, it's very much appreciated. If you stopped informing us of what is going on in our club I don't know what i'd do at work ha.

I understand the frustration that comes with the unexplainable abuse you receive but it's pretty much the same as the bbc blogs. People like Leo who stage as a Liverpool fan are pathetic and should be ignored. Please don't let them ruin it for the majority, that'll be letting them win.

Regards,

100% Cotton

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22 Jun 2013 18:09:22
Ok ed, thanks for letting me know the second post was incomplete as well. This was definitely completed I checked it twice and should include Christian Atsu and Mkhitaryan as well.

Thanks

Nevada {Ed002's Note - It doesn't - try splitting it in two.}

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Thanks ed, I'll split it now.

Nevada

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Thanks ed, just sent it in two parts. Thanks for the help and patience. Also ignore the post I added to my original incomplete post, sent that before I read your reply here.

Thanks ed

Nevada {Ed002's Note - The second one is incomplete - perhaps a control character at the start of the Atsu stats - you don't have a chevron there do you?}

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22 Jun 2013 18:08:25
Hi Eds. Is there anything new on Mkhitaryan?

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22 Jun 2013 18:07:50
Hey Eds, what's the latest on Mkhitaryan? Seems as though other clubs may have moved ahead of us due to his complicated ownership. {Ed002's Note - Done to death - read the posts please.}

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22 Jun 2013 17:52:24
ED2 Ignore Leo just a sad t$$t . Your posts are the reason myself and others want to read.

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First time post. Have been visiting this site for some time and would like to thank the ED's for the work that they do and say, the world is full of persons and clowns but thankfully they are not proper LFC supporters, please ignore these clowns. Keep up the good work it is appreciated. Bootle Toe

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22 Jun 2013 17:32:19
Hi ed's & posters,

Can anyone explain why some news says mignolet for £9m and some say £11m. Or is it all just speculation? Plus any inside news on where suarez could end up going and how much? Would prefer him to stay even with his 10 game ban each year.

Ynwa {Ed002's Note - Read the posts please.}

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22 Jun 2013 17:35:42
Good professional interview on from BR.
And I like his stance on LS.
Skurks

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22 Jun 2013 17:34:17
Just read an interesting interview with Rodgers on the goalkeeping situation. He said he's spoken with Reina and told him he wants competition in the goalkeeper department and that he's buying a goalkeeper . So maybe Reina might stay? It will be interesting to see what happens

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22 Jun 2013 17:21:42
Hi to all the eds, just like to say all the eds are doing a fantastic jobs, keep it up.

Lfc fan from Cardiff.

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22 Jun 2013 17:21:16
hi eds

is luis alberto primarily a no 10 attacking midfielder or can he play wide also

we seem to have a few for this role. coutinho, suso, shelvey, suarez and possibly mhkitiryan

is this the end of shelveys time at anfield?

tom1975 {Ed030's Note - He can play quite a few positions mate,Including Striker,Centre forward,Midfield and a few others. }

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Could you please tell me what the difference between a striker and a centre forward is? Whilst also disregarding and forgiving my ignorance on the subject!
In Buck we trust!

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22 Jun 2013 15:42:46
Hi Eds & Reds,

I was just wondering could I get your opinion on something, with signings of toure and Alberto confirmed, Mignolet fee apparently agreed and possibly 3 to 4 more possibly arrivals, it will be great to see great to see genuine competition in nearly every position. Personally I think Reina will stay for another year then go to Barca and Mingnolet will give him the wellneeded kick up the back side he needs competition wise compared to Brad Jones.

I think having Martin Kelly back will be like having a new signing as well. Regards CDM cover for Lucas, can you see Conor Coady getting a chance or does Jay Spearing have a second chance or are we looking at anyone in particular?

Thanks in advance {Ed030's Note - I don't see Spearing staying at Liverpool I think he will leave permanently this summer,I think Coady may be a Defensive midfield back up,I agree with you about Kelly btw. }

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Hi Anto, It's only my opinion, but I think if Martin Kelly stays fit, he has all the makings of a first class centre back, Height 6'3", good on the ball, also quite quick for his size, good in the air too and a gr8 defender. He would be a good back up for Toure/Skrtel and who knows given an opportunity there this season mite be a revelation. His versatility also gives cover for Johnson at right back. I honestly think if he gets in the team he will be hard to dislodge, I would also think he would be well able to play as dm as cover for Lucas, well that's my view anyway lol,
Simonpw

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Completely agree with the Martin Kelly comments, think he has all the attributes to be a top centre half for Liverpool for years to come! Hows his recovery coming does anyone know?

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Yeah agree totally.I really rate him and I think even though i'm not "in the know" that the club do too.

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22 Jun 2013 17:17:05
Hey eds sorry to bother you but I just really want to know if we are still looking at luuk de Jong. He is a very good player that would add a lot of quality to our side. Thx eds {Ed002's Note - No.}

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22 Jun 2013 16:54:39
Hi ed's and posters. Can any of you give a list of Liverpool players at the U-20's world cup, apart from Coady and Suso? Thanks in advance.

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Just flanagan

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22 Jun 2013 16:40:41
The post by Ed002 on the abuses she gets got me extremely angry, but disappointed even more. People like Leo have no place on this website as they do not respect the people that host it. Its like allowing a traveller free accommodation at your humble abode who is hungry, has very little information about the area and does not have a place to stay and them turning and criticising you hospitality!
What the Ed(s) do for us is much greater then their instant replies to any queries we have on the team and transfers, its bringing LFC fans from around the world together to express our views on the team we love and have some banter amongst ourselves.
Lastly, the Ed(s) bring some of us down to earth with our foolish speculato
Ions about Messi and the like joining and that's for many reasons!
-Liverpool may not have interest in the player we drool over!
-The player may not want to come to a club that's rebuilding or not having the means to pay extravagant wages!
-Etc
Like Joe Kinnear, they know a lot more about the game then some of us here and are in contact with people that actually are 'in the know', so to speak.
Note: the Joe Kinnear part was a joke, he is such a comedian LOL

Anyways, i'd just like to speak in behalf of 99% of fans on here and say we appreciate every ounce of energy you put in this website and may long it continue.
Cheers
RedSox69

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This site is starting to annoy me.

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Here Here.

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22 Jun 2013 16:18:41
wots with the people ed bashing, my god they give their time for free to provide this site which I for one really enjoy using and gain a lot of enjoyment out off so really wot is the point off pissing off the eds as the do a fantastic job!

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22 Jun 2013 16:05:01
Great work Eds,
Any chance of us going back in for De Vrij now Papa seems dead?
Cheers.

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Is he dead?! I know they said he was injury prone but I didn't realise it was that serious!

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Has anyone checked his pulse? Are you sure he is dead?

Crooky

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I think we were priced out of a move for de vrij aswell mate

mayhem 1981

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22 Jun 2013 15:57:28
ed's I got to say this is a fantansic site. I have been a daily reader since 2009. since then a lot has changed on this site. some for the better and some for the worse. I think certainly with posters abusing ed's more, has people forget it is just a rumour site. don't listen to them and please don't close the site down, would be sad to lose it. that's it really just wanted to say what a brilliant job you do

ashwa

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22 Jun 2013 15:52:35
Welcome to our new signing Alberto! In addition to Aspas and Toure we are getting our business done quickly which is always a positive. HM and Papa would be great coups if we can pull it off and if our players show their abilities we will be strong next season.

Onto the goalkeeper situation, I feel Mignolet will grow and move onto the next level when he joins, he is a 'steady' goalkeeper but his base attributes are good enough and he is consistent enough to turn into a top keeper in my opinion, he seems composed when I have seen him and his shot stopping and reflexes are excellent. Pepe is better regards to distribution as Reina is one of the best in the world in that department.

Though I cannot see both of them being here next season. I noticed ED002 noting recently of interest in him from Italy, would that be Napoli ED? Would be a good move for Reina, and I would wish him well as he has been a great servant to the club. Less so if he left to Arsenal though! haha Sometimes it is just time for a change and I think that time came/has come for Pepe.

Lets stay positive and give our players a chance before we criticise them. In my opinion we are on the right track and I have faith in the people we have in place who are making decisions. Look who we were being linked to a few years ago : ), and remember, its not even July!

The A man

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22 Jun 2013 15:50:50
Hi eds if we sell Suarez any interest in bringing torres back wouldn't cost as much as we sell Suarez some money left over makes sense.

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Do you know how much Chelsea are paying him a week? He won't be cheap at all.

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No chance of getting torres he wants to play in champs league and any way why would he leave Chelsea for us backward step isn't it he says he wants to stay there and continue to win trophies which chelsea certainly do we have to face facts fellow reds they are well ahead of us these days in more ways than one. BAZZALFC.

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How about we don't bring torres back, let's move forward not back

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22 Jun 2013 15:44:40
The real AG-troll hunter. Reckon there a film on there somewhere. Fair doos lad

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Hahah, I nearly lost it there for a second!

It's just that that poster brought nothing to this site except more abusive response, this time from me.

I really don't see the point of such posts. He or she is obviously not a LFC supporter.

The real AG

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22 Jun 2013 15:27:11
Now Ed2 please don't think I'm having a go because I'm not, I'm just trying to put some things into perspective.
When coutinho was rumoured to be signing you said you had concerns that he would maybe too lightweight. He has since flourished under BR.
You have now raised concerns over atsu and Alberto (valid concerns) an opinion you are entitled to although only an opinion and so to be taken with a pinch. The posters need to calm down and trust BR.
Ed2 is knowledgeable but his opinion on players is just that; an opinion. Not fact. Again not a dig Ed2.
I have full faith in Alberto and BR.
Thanks
Puzzled Red {Ed002's Note - The last thing I need right now is you misquoting me. If you look, I will have very clearly said that the Inter coaches considered Coutinho lightweight - not me. As for the Atsu and Alberto, if you read what I said it was a Spanish ex-English Premier League player who suggested they were of "Fulham quality" or whatever - not me. So in the future I would appreciate it if you skipped over anything I say rather than attempt to misrepresent me for whatever benefit you see in doing that.}

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You may be getting a little carried away as far as Coutinho goes. Suggest you see how he fares for a FULL English season rather than a few matches. There are plenty of prior Brazilian players who have looked great for a few matches and yet have failed to cope with the physicality of the Premiership over a longer period.

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22 Jun 2013 17:33:58
Few matches? Half a season is not a few matches.
If you understand football you would know Coutinho will be even better next season! But you clearly don't nameless poster. Errrrr, better luck next time troll!

[The only REDS]

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Think you will find he did NOT play all matches for half a season. But if you don't want to accept my viewpoint, that's fine. The game generates different opinions. But they are opinions, and you have no way of knowing how the guy will do next season, let's just wait and see. Perhaps every other European club who "resisted" spending £8m will also look wrong!

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Sorry ed . Clearly I've caught you on a bad day with the abuse on all.

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22 Jun 2013 15:20:17
hi eds is it not a bit crazy that Liverpool are signing a keeper that conceded nearly the most goals last season for a whoping 11 mil, he pulled off more saves than reina but that's obviously cause of the sunderland defence and also mignolets pass completion was way worse than reinas too and we need our keeper with that due to our style of play, surely we can get a better keeper than him for less even what's your thoughts. lfc red in the head

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Woah, slow down man!

The real AG

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He has less pass completion because he plays more long passes. Stats don't tell you everything

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22 Jun 2013 17:46:42
On top of that he made the second most saves of any premier league keeper last season. All these stats together tell us 1 thing.

Sunderland need a new defense

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22 Jun 2013 15:13:30
To all eds! Know that the world has its nay Sayers and trouble makers. But the majority is of the good! Far mor fans thank you for your work time and efforts. We are unable to stop the bad stuff but keep in mind the majority that love you!

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22 Jun 2013 15:00:43
At the risk of being ridiculed by some, If Suarez should decide to go and should that be to Real, then maybe the discussion of a cash plus Alonso and (here is were I may get some stick) possibly a cheeky 15-20 mill bid for Torres needs to happen. I can see where Rodgers is going with the young fresh talent, however both these have openly stated they have unfinished business at LFC they are both able to command an immediate starting place and they are BOTH class players. Torres for all his faults when he left can still bang in the required goals when given the opportunity and the service. Imagine Alonso, Gerrard and Torres through the middle.

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I don't need to imagine it, I watched it in the ''past''

get over it

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Torres is currently earning £175,000 per week at Cheslki, that's over £9m a year! Might be able to get him for a "cheeky" 15-20m bid (plus tax, agents fees etc.) but will end up doubling that over the next 2 years, can't see that under the new regime and personally would rather we invest elsewhere anyway.

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See as I said the usual suspects are quick to attack, I agree with ed 2 I thought this was a general forum for peoples views not a slag every one who's comments I don't agree with page. !

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People are still postin' about Alonso and Torres?
Really?
Do you really want them back?
I honestly can't understand that thinking you know?!

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22 Jun 2013 18:40:14
I have it on good authority that we will see Torres in a Liverpool shirt again.


When he's playing in Stevie's testimonial.

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22 Jun 2013 14:51:58
just got the best birthday present ever, a ticket to Liverpool vs melbourne next month off my misses!

gonna keep her around a while longer, ha see all you ausssie Liverpool fans there.

aussiepool tristan

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Haha, Happy B'Day and Enjoy!

The real AG

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Happy days
red rrab

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Have a great time man there is nothing like watching the Reds play live!

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Happy b-day, have a great time and make sure you 'reward' her.

Lil Red

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22 Jun 2013 14:46:10
Hi ED's

Surly for the 30 mill that HM will cost, could we not get Iker Munian. {Ed002's Note - But Rodgers wants Mkhitaryan.}

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Munain is not particularly good IMO. He was touted as the next big thing and has really so far failed to live upto expectations.

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But he doesn't score enough, assist enough or play consistently enough.

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I guess because of the potential goals he brings to the team. i'm guessing Munain is not as prolific as micky and also plays in a different position.

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He also has attitude issues, on and off the pitch Ed002 mentioned I think.

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22 Jun 2013 14:44:54
Anyone else think that Rafa may go after Reina?

There is absolutely no way Mignolet has signed for us to sit on the bench so cannot see Reina being happy to be second choice.

Logan

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Doubt it. Napoli have an excellent 'keeper in Morgan De Sanctis.

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Neapolitan ice cream is world famous

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22 Jun 2013 14:42:53
Come on now people.Lets be realistic with BRs signings at the moment.We haven't got the billions City, Chelsea etc have so we aren't going to compete with those clubs in the transfer market anytime soon.What Rodgers IS doing though is buying players who are going to fit into his system and play well tactically.Coutinho was getting knocked a bit by some before he even played, him being lightweight, pushed off the ball by more physical players etc.He took the league by storm and at 8m it was a shrewd buy.In my opinion I would rather us take risks on players that cost a lot less than maybe a 50m player that is banging in goals in Spain, Italy etc and comes to the BPl and is abysmal and we lose out on 25m when we sell him on.Im excited about the new season, this could be our year to get back in the CL all we need is a stronger squad and an ability to finish teams off when we play them off the park like we did with city, united last year.Cmon you Reds YNWA.

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Well said . Look at swansea with michu a steal.

Ynwa

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22 Jun 2013 14:41:53
If torres was offered for 10-15 million we should snap there hands off class is permanent and that lad on his day has bucket loads and I think it would soften the blow of saurez leaving .

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Torres will never come back get over it will yer

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22 Jun 2013 14:28:43
Do you think Suso will get more starts for Liverpool next season?

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Hope not

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Hope so

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Hope not. What!? The guy needs first team football to help him develop further, looked great the other night, has the potential to become a real asset for us and the ability now to add depth and competion to the squad, at the very least needs to be playing first team football on loan at a premier/championship club, but just, hope not, glad you're not Liverpool manager. I'm sure Brendan will do right by him.

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The same troll who has been going around, anonymously, slating perfectly good players like Suso, Alberto, Mickey, Aspas and the likes is the 1st reply poster. Get a life or rather, get back to your own teams page you nugget.

Eds, sorry for the exasperation, but there has been a lot of these pathetic losers around, slating everyone from the Editors, to current players and even the young players.

The real AG

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I think he needs them, he needs competitive football and lots of it.

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Yeah suso has the ability he just needs more game time.Give the young guys a run in the cups like Arsenal do.Even against lower league sides its much needed competitive game time.

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A season long loan to a lower PL team or a Championship team (Wigan?) would be a good idea.

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22 Jun 2013 14:25:43
Do people not think that persuing Christian atsu is pointless because he's a similar type of player assaidi is and he can't even get a game so why have two wages to play when we already have one that doesn't play.

Is it concrete that we are looking at Christian atsu?

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Asaidi is pony, another super promising youngster bought to fit the mould of mid table style we currently aspire to

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1st reply, same poster who has been going around anonymously slating all Eds?

The real AG

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22 Jun 2013 14:24:35
Hi Ed002,
nice to see Rodgers going for young promising players, but don`t you think he`s got that in the likes of Suso, Sterling, Ibe, Assaidi, Pacheco, Yesil, Morgan, Sinclair. maybe someone else. What`s the point? thanks for your time, work and efford to provide us puny humans with all the news and rumours. {Ed002's Note - I would think some of the youngsters will be concerned about their chances of a game for Liverpool.}

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All those youngsters are pi$$

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22 Jun 2013 15:05:23
Suso Sterling Yesil Ibe are "pi$$"? jog on mate

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1st reply, troll alert!

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22 Jun 2013 14:10:54
New Business
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Good morning everyone, I thought that given our current flurry of activity in the transfer market I'd review our signings and potential signings, to write these reviews I used (my now expected) Statistical analysis, but also went to the effort of watching full 90 minute matches of each player as well. I made sure to watch 3 games where they played well and three where they played badly so I could have an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. I apologise for the length of this post, If you can't be bothered reading I suggest you skip ahead. Here we go.

*I didn't do Toure since we all know him pretty well.
*KPPG = Key Passes Per Game, SOG = Shots on Goal
Iago Aspas
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Attribute-----Rank--------
Goals---------16th-------
Assists--------16th------
KPPG---------13th-------
SOG----------5th--------

I've seen people compare him to a spanish craig bellamy, and I'd say this is fairly accurate. Not as quick as bellamy but certainly as feisty and difficult to play against. He is pretty strong on the ball and with an excellent first touch and good shot accuracy (50% - Suarez was 43% this year). He is not that prolific at present but it is worth noting that he was responsible for 46% of Celta Vigo's goals last year. So he is both creative and scores when given then chance. He is physical as I mentioned before so should not get bullied out of the game, and is generally very consistent.
Strengths - Ball Control, Accuracy, Creativity, Consistency, Big Game Player
Weaknesses - Temperament, Could be more prolific, Can sometimes play with his head down.
Likened with? Craig Bellamy

Luis Alberto
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Attribute----Rank------------
Goals--------14th-----------
Assists-------5th-----------
Shots-------Unavailable-----
KPPG--------Unavailable-----
SOG--------Unavailable-----

It was hard to do statistical analysis properly for Luis as records aren't kept of some the things I looked at, but you can see he didn't do badly (Was only 1 goal behind Morata as well)His game is focused on finesse and thinking quicker than the other players. He has a wonderful knack for finding space and creating space, and is not shy of a spectacular goal or two. He was responsible for 39% of all goals scored by Barca B.
Strengths - Control, Reading of the game, Passing (long and short), finding and creating space, Shooting.
Weaknesses - Can sometimes drift in and out of games, Stamina, Work Rate.
Likened With? Luis Garcia

Simon Mignolet
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Attribute-----Rank-----
Conc---------11th-----
Clean Sheets--5th-----
Shots Faced---2nd----
Saves---------2nd----
Save %-------6th----

Some of his stats actually surprised me, and I do this pretty regularly. Finding out he had the second highest amount of saves in the league the 5th most clean sheets was very surprising. Even more so was that his save percentage is 6th best (Reina was 13th this year). I fully think that with a good defence in front of him (instead of the shambles at Sunderland) he could be in the top 3 best keepers in the league.
Strengths - Shot Stopping, One on ones, Agility, Ability under pressure.
Weaknesses - Crosses, Stays on his line too much, Distribution.

Christian Atsu
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Attribute------Rank-----------
Goals----------

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That was good, but where's the rest of it, I like this, its a basis for discussion on whether a player is good or not, and not just the usual, he's crap because he is not worth 20m.

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22 Jun 2013 14:44:37
I'm assuming that there is a second half to this post; can we get it up quickly if you've finished writing it, because I'm seriously interested

Thanks for sharing the results of your research with us

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Ed, can we delete this post please. I have submitted the full one since this was accidentally posted.

Thanks {Ed002's Note - You have submitted another incomplete one.}

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22 Jun 2013 14:07:53
Mignolet has got to be number one if we sign him.
It would be unlikely for Madrid, Barca, Chelsea, City etc to sign a second choice keeper for such an amount.
Brendan Rodgers has spoken publicly about us needing to buy more wisely than other big clubs with larger transfer budgets. I would be amazed if he were to allocate £10+ million on a keeper to only make a few appearances a season.
Pepe Reina seems a great character and the club has lost too many 'voices' in recent times but this may just be the right time to sell. His stock is high, he is nearing 31 and although he may not admit in public, I'm guessing he feels he should have more trophies. That coupled with a frustration of being kept out of the Spain side and the fact that his father played for Barca, he started at Barca and well Barca are Barca make me feel that a move is more and more possible with every passing day. I think that he would have given us one more season until the time when Valdes leaves and the jersey is up for grabs but it seems to me that Brendan has decided that he wants the long term replacement now and that probably means Pepe leaving sooner than expected (he is also on a massive salary).
I have mixed feelings on this. At his best he is one of the best. It seems like he really loves the club and he has found a place in our sentimental red hearts. That said I have been worried about his form for while and I feel this is down to concentration. He has been beaten in too many one on one situations too easily and makes some bad errors at crosses. I used to play in goal and whilst never fit to lace his boots (or strap his gloves! )I do understand that concentration is of massive importance in goalkeeping. I don't feel like he has been 'on it' for a full 90 mins for some time and I think his mind is a wandering and wondering.
A decent enough bid still has to be made however and we could end up with both for at least a season. I cannot see this being the plan.
You may or may not like Rodgers you've got to be impressed by his demand for unity and focus. It seems to me that if you look sideways at another Bird other than our own, he'll be quick to show you the door.

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Lucas will do a great job again next season, if Rafa doesn't steal him to Napoli. And remember, tough tackling CDMs get a lot of yellows and occasssional reds!
In my humble opinion, we need a speedy right winger.
Rodgers is doing well, I'm please with Alberto, could be another Coutinho (I hope). Mkhitaryan would be a great buy, right attitude, skill and pace.

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22 Jun 2013 14:04:57
The one thing that's worrying me is that the problems we had last season have (as of yet) not been addressed.
We scored plenty of goals but were weak at the back, particularly in the air. We were also a little lightweight in the middle.
Our transfers have been good players, I do like them and I trust BR.
But our side is crying out for a fast, strong CB and a tough tackling CDM. Neither of these positions have been filled (yet) but more worryingly judging from what the eds have said they won't be. The eds have listed our targets and there isn't one CDM there! This worries me immensely.
Would love to hear if other posters share my concern
Thanks
Puzzled Red

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What makes you think we need a new CDM Puzzled?

Lucas was the best performing CDM in Prem league last year, and one of the best in europe as well. I don't really see that as a problem position myself.

I can see your point on defence (despite finishing with the 5th best goals against in the league) I do think we need a more solid CB.

Nevada

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I would definately agree about our defence, we have been crying out for another Hypia for too long now. Unlike most I was was never convinced by Skrtel despite his one good-ish season.

With papa seemingly dead in the water and Alderwireld going elsewhere i'm not sure Toure will be enough to shore up our defence. Note, I don't count Ilori as I put him is the same category as sterling and suso etc, pleayers who still have to develop.

One thing most seem to have discounted is that with the signing of possibly 2 cam players, we might be converting Gerrard into a defensive mid seeing as his legs can't see him up and down the pitch anymore.

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22 Jun 2013 15:09:56
The problem there is that Stevie has a tendency to throw himself into tackles when its not particularly necessary and, somewhat like Paul scholes, doesn't always have the best timing. Also, I'm not overly sure he can force himself to sit back and watch the rest of the team go forward, especially when we are down by a goal or 2.

IMO, whilst the idea of CDM Stevie sounds good, it's probably going to be a year or two before there is any real hope of putting it into practice. Seems more likely to be the type of thing that happens when his legs go.

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We're clearly looking at CBs and the window isn't even open yet. Just be patient, just because we are signing attackers at the moment doesn't mean we won't bid for defenders. Maybe BR is making sure we get the right defence partner for Agger at the right price, hence not signing Papa.

Red Raw

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I agree that we need a CDM, as I just feel we need someone a little more physical and dynamic there.
Only to play alongside Lucas though; not trying to slag him or ask for him to be sold/replaced.

I've posted a few times about Stevie bein played as a CDM too, but agree it probably won't be until another 2 seasons?
I do think he'd be successful there though?

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Boys don't forget about Kelly and Wisdom they have great futures at right and centre back. Think one more will be signed though.

Alfie

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22 Jun 2013 14:03:24
Hi eds, question regarding Kjaer. With his coach coming out and saying he will likely leave because he is no longer first choice, where can you see him ending up? Why does change clubs constantly, is he problematic, not that good or just moving around by choice?

Cheers, Aiden {Ed002's Note - It would be speculation but Italy or Metalist.}

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22 Jun 2013 13:59:45
So forgive my ignorance but is Mignolet actually any good? Can't see us paying that much for a keeper for him to sit on the bench.

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If you look at his stats last season he was one of the better performing goalkeepers in the BPL.That includes Reina and he was in a side that was really struggling defensively in the latter half of the season.So yeah he is good.Belgium number 1 too in front of Courtouis which says alot.

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22 Jun 2013 14:32:10
First time poster, any views welcome With, Mingolet, possibly a couple of defenders, Micky, Atsu, Gerrard and Couthino strikers being Sturridge, Alberto and Aspas. I reckon we have a great team to assault the top four. BR is building good foundations, as previous posters have said, no player is bigger than the club. If Suarez was to leave, I see a shrewd bit of business (possibly player swap )with a 'Marque' signing coming plus cash. All the best to Reina if he goes has served our club well in the yrs he has been here. YNWA redforlife
Ps: Suarez was and still is a great player, but we could have scored/ won quite a few more games if he wasn't so selfish on the ball.

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22 Jun 2013 13:57:11
Just a point like but do you not think the scouting team and manager know a bit more about what the likes of Alberto are like on the field than anyone on here?
Its ridiculous, great players have to come from somewhere, what would you prefer 6 big name prima donnas that feel like they don't have anything to prove?, I for one like the idea of young hungry players who want to win things and prove themselves, let's not forget in between these new young signings there will be Gerrard, Agger, Enrique, Johnson, hopefully Mignolet already with Prem experience, Sturridge, Couthino both of hwo have had a taste of the Prem and done very very well in it, Henderson who is improving all the time in a system that's taken time to bed in, Lucas who gets in the Brazil squad who spent most of last year coming up to speed after a terrible injury,
I really don't know what you want, If Manchester United had signed any of these and then they turned round and said they were the next big thing we'd be saying on here 'why can't our scouting system unearth these gems'. Pull your heads in and wait and see, its common knowledge for anyone that saw us play that the second half of the season last year was a massive improvement, everyone getting used to the new way of playing, new players bedding in etc etc, in truth if we'd had that form in the first half we'd have been pushing for top four all season. I hate this new era of glory within 6 months or your shown the door,
Give the lads some chances before you write them off. Part time experts
YNWA JFT96

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Too true, if players are relatively unknown in uk they must b awful. let's be honest if we were linked/signed michu and benteke last summer many posters on here would have come out with same 'not good enough' 'why r we buying him' stuff. These r the same people who critise our scouts when other clubs sign these young/unknown players who then turn out to b class. I will reserve judgement until I have seen them given a decent opportunity in the team

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22 Jun 2013 13:56:39
Hey Ed(s)

Howz it going? Not football related but about registration why do I have to give me e-mail address? I won't be receiving spam will I?

ACHILLES. {Ed002's Note - No.}

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22 Jun 2013 13:55:26
Shout out to davylivercabs, silver Vito van with blacked out windows, Luis Alberto rides in style.

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22 Jun 2013 13:52:59
Welcome to Liverpool Football Club Luis Alberto Romero!

The real AG

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22 Jun 2013 13:47:55
So far Brendan Rodgers had done a good job in recruiting players. He knows what he is doing, buying players who really suits in his gameplay. For fans who are unhappy with the clubs activity, we could take Borussia Dortmund as an example. They were a very big club in Germany before their decline due to financial reasons where they finish at the bottom half of the table 6-7 years ago. Then they hired a young and hungry manager in Jurgen Klopp. He did not have the money to buy players. We are currently in their position once. And see where they are now? They were in the Champions League Final and the players that were bought from smallish clubs are world class right now. We should back Brendan Rodgers and support him in whatever he does to the team. Even he said once that he was taking Dortmund as an example. YNWA

SaZLFC

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22 Jun 2013 13:37:38
I'm so happy that we've been signing players so early. Once the transfer window opens, they'll officially be Liverpool players and can start pre-season training. I really hope Aspas, Toure, Luis Alberto and even Mignolet signing early gives them the opportunity to gel with the rest of the squad and adopt BR's style of play faster. This is very crucial to getting a good start to the season and hopefully we can push for Top 4 and beyond.

To all of you pessimistic posters who think we are not going anywhere signing young unproven squad players, think of the big picture. BR is building up a talented and versatile squad with players who play in a fluid system. If we sell Suarez (we probably will), we'll no longer have a "main man" who we look to and rely on to dig us out of trouble. Gone are the days of having 1 or 2 superstars in the team where everyone else merely plays a supporting role. In recent years, we used to depend on the brilliance of Torres, Gerrard and most recently Suarez.

This used to be fine, but think of the days when these superstars have gone off the boil. Every top player has off days. Remember how we were so poor and hopeless when Suarez was performing poorly? This is exemplified in our 3-1 defeats to Southampton and Aston Villa (correct me if I'm wrong).

Next season, we'll have so many players who can produce moments of brilliance to turn a match around. We have Coutinho, Sturridge, Borini (he's not that bad, his performances for the Italy's U21s were decent), Aspas, Alberto, Downing, Suso and Sterling ( they both should go out on loan IMO) and maybe Mkhitaryan and Atsu.

The point I'm trying to get at is that we don't have to rely on a player anymore. If 1 or 2 players are having a bad game, BR has plenty of options at his disposal. With all these players being so versatile, he could switch their positions around or bring on players from the bench to change the game. All these technical players have the ability to make a difference and this is what I'm looking forward to.

I genuinely believe that we can achieve Top 4 next season and hopefully push for the title in 3-4 years. I feel that Liverpool is a sleeping giant that has been underperforming for far too long (with the exception of the short-lived Benitez era). BR is the manager to take us forward and hopefully he succeeds.

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Top 4 don't make me laugh with these signings you really do need to get real my friend.

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22 Jun 2013 17:55:32
Another nameless troll, they multiply like bacteria! Top 4 is always the target, whether you think that's funny or not! In my opinion we have a genuine chance next season. Keep the laughing for the end of the season because I have a feeling you will eat your words and look very silly come May 2014.

[The only REDS]

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22 Jun 2013 13:34:24
Hi eds love the site! Probably a silly question but wil Alberto go straight into the first team?

Cheers keep up the great work

Dub red {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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22 Jun 2013 13:27:37
Sorry if this comes up so much Eds
But, what is the situation with the aspas and Mkhitaryan deals? and who would be the other option if we don get Mkhitaryan? {Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

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22 Jun 2013 13:27:10
The Premier League is to request a court order forcing internet service providers to block a popular football streaming website before the next season.

The League wants ISPs to cut off access to FirstRow1, which operates from Sweden. The BBC understands none of the ISPs plan to challenge the court order. If successful, the action will be the first sport-related site block in the UK.

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How come different countries such as the states get loads of live premiership footy, prob more than us. Pardon the ignorance. Arab countries an all. What's that all about. I don't get to every game so firstrow is my first port of call. Gutted if it goes

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22 Jun 2013 13:21:40
Is Aspas is any better than Jovanovic. They share the same position in left side midfield. Jovanovic is a gud Player who can't cope with Physicality of the PL. R u sure Aspas will cope with Physicality of PL? I have concerns with his Pace too . Sorry eds. The question seem to unfair. But, I am one of true Liverpool supporters from India.

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22 Jun 2013 14:21:53
Well you would of thought coutinho would'nt be able to handle the physicality of the EPL but he has exceeded expectations.

ACHILLES.

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Jovanovic was garbage mate

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If you're good enough, you're big enough. The best players in the league are the likes of Mata, Silva, Suarez and Coutinho. This is why we don't produce enough talent like this in this country because we're still hung up on having big physical players. Yes they have a place, particularly at centre half, but you only have to go through history, Best, Maradona, Dalglish etc. all small, all brilliant. And yes Jovanovic was rubbish. Aspas I gather is quite aggressive and strong, with a good touch.

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22 Jun 2013 13:15:35
Hi to all the Ed's,

Has there been any further movement in the Aspas drama? It's all gone a bit quiet.

Cheers {Ed002's Note - Nothing changed overnight.}

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22 Jun 2013 13:02:15
Any news on Okore from the Danish league? {Ed002's Note - He has agreed a move to Aston Villa.}

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22 Jun 2013 12:58:37
With regards to in coming things are pretty well know, looks like-Toure, Aspas, Alberto, Miglonet, Ilori, Mkhitaryan and another CB will be joing.

With regards to players leaving its anybodies guess- Suarez (almost certain), Reina, Coates, Skrtle, Shelvey, Spearing, Assaidi, Downing, Pacheco? Could they all be leaving?

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I would add to that list Christian Atsu or another attacking player (if Suarez leaves of course)

RedKopite

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22 Jun 2013 12:55:21
Hey Ed's has the problem with Aspas been solved?

Cheers {Ed002's Note - Not yet.}

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22 Jun 2013 12:52:09
hello Eds

Do you think we have concluded business for this summer or do you expect more signings? (apart from Mignolet)

Thanks
Pricey {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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22 Jun 2013 12:51:47
Hi eds, would you mind answering my question? It could save you time as it summarises the majority of questions posters have on this site.

Anyway would it be fair to say that these are our top targets:

1) Toure (Done)
2) Aspas (Done)
3) Alberto (Done)
4) Mingolet (Nearly Done)
5) Mkhitaryan?
6) Ilori?
7) Atsu
8) New CB (Papa?/Alderweireld?)

Great site anyway {Ed002's Note - Try the search engine. All of these have been dealt with repeatedly.}

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That'll be it, but I hope if Suarez does leave then Atsu can be changed to a more dynamic, exciting player e.g Muriel or Lamela.

Papa G

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22 Jun 2013 14:40:11
It's been mentioned multiple times that there would be work permit difficulties with both Muriel and Lamela

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Not just work permit issues, but also ownership issues with Lamela.

See what's happening with Mickey, Lamela would be much much more complicated than Mickey's situation.

The real AG

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22 Jun 2013 12:50:37
With Isco seemingly on his way to Madrid now, does that rule them out of the Suarez dealings now? Do you think there could be anyway we end up keeping Suarez or not Eds? {Ed002's Note - Done to death Alex.}

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22 Jun 2013 16:51:45
Perez pretty much said after Marca kicked the Suarez story out, that whilst some players are good enough, they aren't always right for Real Madrid, since then they haven't said much about Suarez but seem to be looking at Cavani, Bale, Isco and even Gungodan of Dortmund, (spelling is a bit sloppy sorry). So i'm not sure if they see Suarez as Higuain's replacement or if they want Cavani and Suarez to partner each other. Who knows, Bayern were credited with a interest in Suarez, Pep's getting Goetze and has been rebuffed so far in his plans for Lewandowski with Dortmund refusing to sell to them.

Also if Arsenal and Juve duke it out for Higuain as has been suggested, then only one of them will have the player, with Tevez and Suarez options for the Turin based club if Higuain chooses the Premiership, at least according to Italian press.

Suarez seems to have a few options, but he himself has shut up since Real haven't publicly made a bid as of yet. Peter Odemwinge would have handled this better I think.

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Cheers for the update, sorry for the question Ed

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22 Jun 2013 12:48:29
Very happy with the way Liverpool are conducting their business at last. BR is a breath of fresh air, the club has been crying out for 'technically gifted, quick players' for years.The likes of Sturridge, Coutinho, Alberto, Aspas and hopefully Mickey just highlights to me the sort of profile players BR and his scouts are going for. And he bought all of those for not much more than Carroll cost. we're finally going places!

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He wants fluid football, with more than just one player with the ability to pop up with an assist or goal, it does look good but wee shouldn't get carried away with things, it's going to be very hard to lose a 30+ goal a season striker and prepare and move on seamlessly, Torres was out of form and sorts when we sold him but Suarez is on fire and it's not ideal for Rodgers, but this is where he manages the problem and really earns his crust. I'm also excited by the way Rodgers is bring about his transfer dealings, i'm slightly anxious about Mingolet, I think Pepe although much moaned about is an excellent keeper, it's not an upgrade, at least not for now. Maybe it's politics?

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What 'politics'?

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22 Jun 2013 12:47:56
Eds and reds,
Rumours about saying Real Madrid have no interest in Luis Suarez.
Bayern Munich are now the most likely team to buy Luis Suarez.

If this is true, would they pay just cash or player/s + cash? {Ed002's Note - Bayern Munich has a number of players that they will be looking to move on this summer. But right now I would not expect any to be moving to Liverpool.}

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22 Jun 2013 12:46:00
Could Liverpool move for Lee Cattermole Sunderland have told him he is free to leave, he would provide competition for Lucas and is still young the any problem I see is he loves seeing the ref's card :)

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He also loves other things!
Cough cough snort.

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22 Jun 2013 12:45:49
Hi Ed's.

Is Alberto signed to start games?

Thanks
//Carl

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22 Jun 2013 13:16:48
Nope! He's the official ball boy for LFC.

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Sorry to disagree Ed, I heard he was the lawn cutter.

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22 Jun 2013 12:37:23
Don't want to seem silly but have we actually COMPLETED the signing of Luis Alberto?
I was under the impression that the only signings that could be made before the window opens (July 1st) were either from your own league (anytime after the final game of the season) or emergency signings (eg no availabe goalkeepers).

Anybody know otherwise?
Thanks in advance. {Ed002's Note - Subject to the paperwork being processed.}

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Cheers Ed002. So the headlines are correct and he has SIGNED but the paperwork cannot be processed until the window opens.

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A fan of the 'long ball' game, tony?

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22 Jun 2013 12:24:40
luis alberto. apparently top of lfc list.

oh great a 21 yr old.

well judging by our average crappy signings
what chance do we have of 4th.

the other teams above don't even need to sign anyone. and we r still miles from them in quality.

except for toure. this signings are just flimsy passers of the ball. why is brendan trying to copy barcelona when the premiership is completely different. its way more physical and these signings are just gona get beaten in the air. for corners.for free kicks. and won't handle the physical side.

rubbish average. UNNECESSARY buys

tony s

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Don't worry there's 100's of posters who have, apparently, access to Sevilla b and barca b games who swear he is class lol, nobody has watched him anywhere but youtube

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Rubbish average unnecessary fans if ya ask me pure oral soilage. barca signed him on loan and from what I've read after buying neymar for near 50 million and probably top wage and haven't not raised money yet we slipped in and got him with money on the table. maybe i'm wrong but if its true that's the way we should operate in the market. and if you want them type of players support stoke because big physical lads don't FIT OUR SYSTEM even our defensive mid is small in stature.and its not like he replaced the whole squad its a few squad players so far nothing more.find something else to moan about.and this time try something that makes sense

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So who would you like to buy? We bough Toure and it was said he is to old, we know have a 21 year old hrs too young. Who are you Goldilocks just wanting something just right. I have news for you we finished 7th last year I don't think the ronaldos and messi of the world are beating our door down to sign. So yes we maybe looking for something different.

Mike S

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Well i'm sure Brendan and the scouts have watched him and if they judge that he's good enough for Liverpool who are we to judge, give them a chance he knows what he's doing

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Oh look, two pathetic trolls. You are exactly what's wrong with the LFC fans now. B*tching and whining, negative tossers.

The real AG

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The same crappy squad that out played city both games!

LAVERS

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Not rubbish buys, but in reality they are not better players than the ones they are most probably replacing. Toure-Carra, Mingolet-Reina, and Aspas/Alberto-Suarez. MKhitaryan interest looks dead in the water, third party ownership makes it way too complicated.

Look at it this way our current team can't break into the top 4, even with a world class player like Suarez, why would this new team been assembled minus Suarez be expected to close the gap on Utd, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs.

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Perhaps Tony would prefer we sack Rodgers, hire Pulis and get some 'physical' players in to 'kick it about' and 'get at em'.

This kind of thinking is why the english national side is so poor. We focus far too much on physical attributes instead of mental and technical ones.

Had you been in charge at Barca a few years ago Tony you would've sent Messi packing because he was not physical enough.

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Yup, because Stevie was crap until he was 25, Rooney and Ronaldo also. Age has nothing to do with quality. The mental aspect of the game is what is gained through experience. Look at young Coutinho's awesome start to his LFC career. Give the players the recognition or derision when you've actually seen them play in our squad for a season. Even then you should still be giving them 100% of your support.

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So we are agreed as long as our youthful passing looks pretty we are happy to continue our Leeds style decline? In that's case Brendan is doing a 1st class job

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Errm didn't we finish higher than last year, I think some peoples definition of decline may be different from my own. Similarly, pre FSG when we struggled to find 20m in a transfer window to having a club now running as a business and while still running at a loss we can still find significant funds to buy players. Leeds style decline, I think not somehow.

The squad is threadbare of quality players to challenge for spots and keep each other on their toes, yet all some of our fans want to do is sign one of two big names, whatever they are, and if they get injured we are struggling again. Brendan will make mistakes as will any manager running a team, at least let's see how they get on before judging.

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"So we are agreed as long as our youthful passing looks pretty we are happy to continue our Leeds style decline? In that's case Brendan is doing a 1st class job"

Can you perhaps leave a name of some sort?

Why not leave a name so people can identify the individual they are educating when they respond to your silly little remarks?

The IQ levels of people who post namelessly on forums must equate with that of small mammals. like hamsters or gerbils.

Mind-bogglingly dumb when you think about it.

Sort your lives out, nameless posters.

BJH YNWA

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To be fair to Tony (dunno why like?!), he never said he wanted us playing like Stoke, or even playing physically at all.
Just said we're lacking there. (Although still disagree with pretty much everything else he said!)

And 'Fatboy'; spot on mate.
Leeds bought mercenaries and were ran appalingly; complete different kettle of fish.
As you rightly alluded to, we need quantity AND quality; we had a small squad last season (this was common knowledge).
Obviously we don't want to just buy for the sake of it, but we do need numbers.

Support ALL our players at ALL times, otherwise what does YNWA really mean?

Finally, I'm posting while not leaving a name, but I really don't think I'm mind-boggingly dumb or less intelligent than a hamster?!

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22 Jun 2013 12:16:15
Hey Eds, so Luis Alberto has been confirmed officially - where do you see him fitting in? Do you think he was bought to go straight in or is he just more of a squad player? Also, what can we realistically expect from him?
Dani {Ed002's Note - He will initially be a squad player.}

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22 Jun 2013 12:16:15
This transfer window is proving once again that we are buying players on the cheap who are unproven and untested. Simply hoping that they will come good in time is a ridiculous transfer policy.

Even worse, we are buying young foreign players who are going time to adapt to the culture, the language and the league etc.

With these young signings and maybe a couple more -we are depriving our younger players already in the under 21's of developing.

This is not the way to challenge for honours. We need some quality, experienced players to help us get into the CL. then further add to squad.

The policy seems to sign a youngster and hope for the best.

We won't get anywhere near the top next season.

M

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22 Jun 2013 13:17:57
Were a sell to buy club now lad, welcome to the new Liverpool, if couthino progress like we hope, he will go for big money in 2 years. This is the model everyone has been brainwashed into believing. Take a bow F$G take a bow.

Waro {Ed002's Note - All clubs need to be more fiscally responsible Waro and as you are aware FSG has been picking up the tab for transfers year in year out since they arrived. Again this year Liverpool will make another loss.}

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M for Misery is back. Have you ever written anything productive or even mildly optimistic on these pages?

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Clueless, pathetic. lots of words comes to mind when I read that drivel.

The real AG

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22 Jun 2013 13:51:54
Another sad clueless post from you.
Get over yourself, you don't know what you're talking about hence the negative clueless ramblings.
You are the worst kind of fan there is, am sorry to say so, you are writing the signings off and sitting there like the sad clown you are hoping for them to fail so you can come and gloat saying I told you so! Instead of wishing them the best and hoping they succeed. Your football knowledge is close to ZERO and obviously wrong about every single word you say, AGAIN.

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Dont bother Ed002, Waro is happy in his negative place.

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Why do people think this policy is new? We have always sold our best players for the right price. Alonso, Fowler, Owen, Rush, Keegan. It is not a 'new FSG policy' at all.

As for buying unproven cheap players, there's arguably more risk involved with big name players for big fees as when they go belly up it costs the club dearly.

Veron, Shevchenko, Torres, Keane, Aquilani, all signed for big fees and were household names (save for aquilani) and all underperformed tremendously. It's not about price or name, it's about if they fit or not.

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Tell you what Waro, most people on here with differing views will say in Brendan We Trust blah blah blah.

It's all part if the spin.

Yes we have to be financially sound but we need to be challenging first and that means buying proven players.

We are on a downward slope - It's all good having a footballing philosophy but English football is different to Spanish football.

You mark my words son - if one of those players come good . then he's off for a few million quid more.

What's happened to our winning mentality?

M

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Ed002, your very lucky the fiscal prudence hasn't been applied to Chelsea.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - It has nothing to do with Chelsea - who made a profit last year in any case.}

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A mid table Arsenal, that's what we are.

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Yes alright Ed, how on earth would Chelsea make a legitimate profit given their transfer spending and wage bill.i think the back door Russian energy deal may go a long way to balancing the books.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - The books are in the public domain. Winning the Champions League went a long way toward balancing the books.}

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22 Jun 2013 12:13:17
hi eds
seen we've just signed alerto from sevilla, thing i'd like to know is, is he any good I mean I watched the youtue vids and he looks very desent but youtue can make konchesky look desent, what sort of player/s is he similar to? cheers
fagan81 {Ed002's Note - Much is expected but he is very, very inexperienced. Barcelona rejected him at half the price Liverpool has paid.}

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Another ridiculous reply from Ed002. Everybody knows that English clubs always pay a lot more than clubs on the Big Island!

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Ridiculous reply!!

Ed002 gave a genuine response to the question asked, how is that ridiculous,

CRETIN!

ST33VO.

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Based on experience Awh well best way to get some experience is to play some games Rogers is a good coach so hopefully

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Reading between the lines of Ed002's post i'm getting the feeling she is not too impressed by this signing.

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22 Jun 2013 14:36:52
Ed002 is not the one to rate players abilities!

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Why then did we have to pay twice? {Ed002's Note - That was the fee that his club wanted.}

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Barca are clowns who never learn - they still haven't addressed their defensive flaws and yet they blow a fortune on Neymar.

Signing Neymar may also partially explain Barca's reluctance to sign Alberto - after all, where would he fit in? Barca have ridiculous options across the front.

Sevilla turned down the amount previously agreed with Barca as Alberto had an excellent season - the club now value him higher than they had previously - which makes sense.

I wouldn't pay much mind to what Barca do anyway, they've let the likes of Alba, Pique and Fabregas slip away in the past.

They will always be contenders for the Scottish PL - (sorry, I mean La Liga) - Neymar may well score goals and they may win the league again - but when it comes to Europe, they still just don't get it, they have needed to improve defensively for several years now.

Don't mind ed002 btw, he doesn't know much about the game - and he enjoys trolling LFC fans.

Take this Alberto example - he has played over 100 games over the the top 3 divisions in Spain - and won caps for Spain at U18, U19 and U21 level.

He is 20 years old, yet the ed calls him 'very, very inexperienced'.

What on earth does the ed expect from a 20 year old in terms of experience?

Oh, he's trolling. I see.

BJH YNWA

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22 Jun 2013 12:08:01
Are we going to pull out of the aspas deal?
Its very likely that it won't go through. {Ed002's Note - I am still expecting Liverpool to look for a deal for Aspas - my opinion on Atsu has been given plenty of times.}

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22 Jun 2013 11:37:29
Hey eds, Ed002, given our early additions in the forward department, do you think the money coming in from a potential sale of Suarez will be used to fund other areas?

Thanks {Ed002's Note - The defence needs work as we all know. I would not try and partition the funds coming in so precisely.}

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22 Jun 2013 11:46:37
Are the negotiations between Liverpool and Shakter dead? {Ed019's Note - No, transfers can take time especially when there are 3rd parties involved}

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22 Jun 2013 11:58:09
Mignolet will be in Liverpool next week finalising the terms etc of a £10.5m move to the Reds. This is fantastic news coupled with other recent activities and shows Rodgers is imposing his will on the squad and that the owners are backing him.

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Banter aside, it's funny how fan's opinions change over time when a player has been linked to the club for a while. The player seems to become a better player when lined to your club. This is not just a Liverpool thing, all fans do it. But if I was to come on here six month's ago and say you will swap Suarez, Reina, Carragher, Coates, Skrtel, Downing, Carroll & Shelvey for HK, Aspas, Mignolet, Toure, Llori, Alberto & Atsu this summer, there would have been UPROAR.

It's funny how players grow on you over time when they are linked to your club.

Disney!

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I agree with Sydney. One of the reasons that happens is probably because once a player is linked to a club, the majority, who probably haven't watched that player closely, go out and watch the player play and then come up with an educated opinion.

The real AG

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22 Jun 2013 14:01:08
Disney do you read your own rubbish?

Luis alberto is 2 times the player Shelvy will ever be.
Aspas was wanted by Benfica, Valencia, Spuds so obviously the lad has quality. And he is much better than Downing.
Mignolet had the highest saving % last season, made the most saves in the league and Reina haven't been himself for the best part of the last 3 seasons
Kolo Toure is just a good signing. Actually no, he is a great signing, the 4-5 times I watched City this season he played and was brilliant, specially when they beat you at old toilet and against Chelsea in the FA cup semi-final. The chelsea that beat you btw.
I think you are a small minded merchant who don't even know what you talk about, am all for banter, but when it's baseless, clueless and on top coming from a manc, I find no credibility what so ever in your nonsense disney.

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Normally Disney I would dismiss your insights as the trolling or confirmed WUM but unfortunately I can't this time.

Theo

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But we are not swapping them are we, carroll was never a part of our team being out of loan for a year, the suarez saga is well documented and coates and skrtel are currently fringe players. Reina has also been courted recently by Barca before valdes decided to stay and has also publicly offered his services to a BIGGER club last week. Its not as black and white as you are trying to make it out to be is it now disney.

The players we have been linked to or have signed are by no means under the control of any fan out there. So the reasoned, level headed fans would find it a futile exercise to be in UPROAR as you so dramatically phrase it.

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Like I have said, all club's have fans that do it. I am not singling out Liverpool. I know Liverpool cannot go out and buy the real top players for obvious reasons and have to resort to buying cheaper potential, but for me if Alberto was that good Barcelona would have snapped him up for a few million. If Aspas was that good a top club would have bought him. Toure (need I say more). Llori, another player I'd never heard of. Atsu? Who? Mignolet due to Begovic being too pricey. Mignolet is a safe keeper, but not a special keeper like Reina was before his demise. This MK fella looks a decent signing, but will end up costing £25m-£30m in the end. For me he is a £15m player at the most. I do not see these signings getting you into the top four, in fact I think you will drop further down the pecking order. Just my opinion.

Disney!

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I think it's true from what I've observed too Disney (for the most part). Its what the real AG has said along with just general hopeful and positive thinking on the fans behalf. Once it's' close or official most fans will support the signing and naturally get ambitious about the impact they can have on their team.

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FL, exactly, I am not singling out LFC. It happens among all fans. I am surprised LFC fans got excited about the Toure signing. I can understand getting excited about potential to a point, but Toure has had his day and was going downhill when at AFC. That transfer surprised me I have to say.

Disney!

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An opinion you are very much entitled to Disney, I agree they are not on the face of it world beaters, but how many world beaters did Man United have in their title winning team last season. yes just the one. It takes a team to win things as you well know, just give our unknowns a chance to kick a ball before we write them of as has beens shall we.

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I think in the Toure case (which I also was surprised) we were looking to try to replace leadership and obviously an experienced back with Carra leaving. I don't think any believe that Toure is going to have a complete revival at this point in his career, but he can do a job for us and hopefully help younger backs learning from his experiences. He's been a champion and knows what it takes. I think that mentality is really important with where we are at right now.

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Disagree completely with Sydney's 2nd reply. Just because you have not heard of a player does not mean they are not good; rather it probably points to your lack of knowledge in terms of keeping up to date with football.

The real AG

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Don't think we were getting excited about toure just acknowledged he will be a great replacement for carragher.

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22 Jun 2013 11:51:48
{Ed030's Note - Just to let you know there is a new blog uploaded you can find it at http://www.player-ratings.co.uk/playerratings-blog-5-rodgers-and-progression-under-him..php }

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Just read ed I agree love all the blogs, thanks {Ed030's Note - Thanks mate. }

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22 Jun 2013 11:45:58
Unfortunately to Liverpool, players aren't overly interested in being part of a project. They are only interested in playing for a CL club with big wages or just playing for a club that will pay ridiculous wages. MonaghanRed

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What about b Dortmund?

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Keep the faith man. they're not all like that. I hope our summer signings will restore a bit of belief.

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That's a pretty wide brush you paint with man, I'm pretty sure everybody likes a pay rise for their work.

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Rubbish mate

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22 Jun 2013 11:34:10
Hi edds can you tell me if u no how much roughly have we got to spend we seem to be linked with a lot of players and we have already spent the carol cash on Aspas and Alberto . Does this mean we are expecting a sale of a few players? Or did the owners have say 20 mill set aside for players regardless aswell for Brendan? {Ed002's Note - I have no interest in discussing money.}

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We have already sold Carroll which covers aspas and Alberto. Seems good business to me. Jord

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22 Jun 2013 11:27:47
So this is our current situation regards transfer. Toure, Aspas and Alberto are certain to sign. Fee for mingolet agreed so we can expect this deal to go througt. I think Brendan really want papa and we are just playing hardball and eventually we will sign him for lot less than 20 mil reported. I also think mickey atsu and illori will sign. We are losing reina, shelvey, spearing, pachecho, suarez, skrtel and coates and maybe couple of young players on loan. Very good job in my opinion. Loosing suarez won't affect much because in our system we will easy bang them in. i'm only concerned against big teams when you need this star player to make something out of nothing, but who knows maybe we sign someone out of blue. don't slate the players before you see them play in red shirt. Some people slate alberto. Those slated coutinho and look how wrong they were. IN BRENDAN I TRUST

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22 Jun 2013 11:25:55
Eds its not even july 1st and we're closing in on our fourth signing! given suarez is prob going to go how many more do you reckon were going to get in? and how many of the new signing we have gotten in are actually going to start {Ed002's Note - I would still expect Liverpool to look to HM and to Ilori and possibly another CB. Contrary to popular belief, I don't pick the starting line up each week.}

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Just hope the CB is either Papa or Zouma.
And I reckon we will also sign a LB or CDM but cheapish and young like that Brazilian lad Matheu Betico for CDM.

Also Ed don't you reckon we will go for Atsu?

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22 Jun 2013 11:23:01
Ed's I replied to mighty reds and benny baller last night and you didn't show it, that was comedy gold that post.

Waro {Ed002's Note - Sorry - I have no idea Waro. Must of been one of the other Eds who decided to cut it.}

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22 Jun 2013 12:51:27
Ok ed002, cheers.

Waro

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Gold waro, gold ;)

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22 Jun 2013 11:16:41
Luis Alberto has been confirmed. Welcome to the club.

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22 Jun 2013 11:14:51
hey eds great site, does anyone hope we can keep suarez I know he said some stuff in his interviews and the media loves to blow things up, but if suarez goes the very best we can hope for is a top 4 finish at best if he stays with his 20plus goals a season and the new signings were makin we can aim higher, man city, Manchester United and chelsea all have new managers and it mite take time for them to get used to the teams, if we get a good start who knows what we could do .777 {Ed002's Note - I suspect that the majority will be pleased to see the back of him.}

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22 Jun 2013 11:14:28
Luis Alberto: "It's a big step, " said the 20-year-old. "But I'm very much looking forward to joining Liverpool. It is a new culture, a new language, and I will have to adapt fast."

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Looking forward to it, I think he's got loads of potential, technical skill, and will end up pleasantly surprising us. Eager to see how he fares with our pace and physicality as well.

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22 Jun 2013 11:11:05
Luis Alberto confirmed this morning on the LFC website. Another exciting young player with great potential.
Welcome Luis!

Tel 1949

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This player looks awesome, some really exciting signings by BR.

Hats off sir!

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22 Jun 2013 11:02:59
getting really sick of players like suarez and reina, everytime the media speak to them they be little our club saying if a bigger club comes in for them there gone let me remind them .pepe you made some serious mistakes in goal which cost us serious points in the league and Liverpool stood bye you thick and thin, suarez who has single handedly caused more trouble for the club than any other player and got himself banned from many matches maybe if you two guys have a long think if you contributed more then maybe we would be in the champions league so don't critisize the club for your misgivings .

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I agree mate. These players who complain they're not in the Champions league.well play better for the club you're at and you could be. I can't fault Reina or Suarez though in terms of desire and will to win but when you miss a third of the season due to your own stupidity then you have to take some responsibility for why the clubs results weren't as good. I'd have liked Luis to stay for 1 more year after the club stood by him like they have. very few players leave Liverpool and go onto better things. Sometimes players need to realise that certain clubs suit their styles. I always knew Torres would bomb at Chelsea. he's not technically good enough, but Liverpools style suited him. I'd love to be a forward at Liverpool next year because the chances we create under BR's system is immense and will improve further this year. If we get a good start we'll be right in the mix.

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Well said whoever you are but as long as we get big fat fees for them good luck to them but your right in that is does annoy us the way they trash talk us, alonso showed us all the way it should and can be done when you want to leave, mash and torres showed us how it can go wrong . good luck to them all but once they want out i'm finished with them .lets get behind our new players and hopefully we can progress next season .

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22 Jun 2013 11:01:33
suarez ban if here go's to spain/france/italy ect will he still have to serve his ban cheers ed, {Ed002's Note - It is up to the individual FA but they will all uphold it.}

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22 Jun 2013 10:50:09
mkhitaryan deal is off due to third party ownership. He will go to Italy or stay where he is.

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That's about right, the one half decent potential signing falls by the wayside.

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22 Jun 2013 11:00:18
According to Luis Alberto completed his medical yesterday and is still in Liverpool. They have a picture of him at a local restaurant. Guess Davylivercabs was right in saying the car he saw at Melwood was Alberto's.
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22 Jun 2013 10:55:41
Some news in the official LFC site in next few minutes.

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Good effort mate

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Is rite lad, nice 1!

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21 Jun 2013 23:12:39
in your opinion eds who would be the best defensive option we are currently rumoured to be looking at
thanks {Ed030's Note - I would like Diame but I don't think we are interested. }

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22 Jun 2013 10:57:32
Is there any truth that Torres has been offered 2 the reds due 2 Chelsea still having £15 mil outstanding from his transfer fee? {Ed002's Note - There is no transfer fee outstanding.}

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22 Jun 2013 10:51:05
I do not understand the mentality of some people posting on this side. The seem to think that paying high
prices for players and bying big names will make the club stronger.Last season we bought coutinho for something like 8 mil and then unknown in the football world. He is proven to be one of the best signings made for the past few years. We signed Carol for 35mil (big money big name), he turned out to be a flop. we signed luis for 22mil. He turned out to be a nightmare for the club with his actions.

young players will want to prove themselves, they will fight for wins and glory and the most omportant it will not cost the club an arm and a leg.


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Alex you clearly don't know much about football outside of the UK. Coutinho is/was once of the biggest hyped youngsters to come out of Brazil in the last 10 years. He was and always will be a bigger name than Carroll (a one season wonder who noone would have known about had Comolli not had his head up his butt when he decided to pay 35m for him). The prices aren't what's at issue. The fans are asking for established/successful players, which can improve the first 11 not just add squad depth. Squad depth alone won't get LFC back to the Champions League. And improving the first 11 pushes a would be starter to the bench thus improving depth anyway.

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22 Jun 2013 10:48:18
11 million is a tad expensive for me. I would rather keep pepe and sign wagayama of celtic. He offers more steel in the middle of the park. i'm not slating Lucas but we do get bullied in the middle at times. Even a player like diame would do a job.

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22 Jun 2013 10:47:21
Is it just me that sees Reina's, Agger's and Suarez's interview as basically the same?
Real Madrid and Barcelona are big clubs but I am a Liverpool player until they sell me.

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22 Jun 2013 10:36:51
Come July 1st we're set to see Toure, Aspas, Mignolet and Alberto join, with hopes a deal for Ilori will be in place too by then. It is believed the arrival of another central defender and maybe Mkhitaryan will see our Summer spending complete, barring any outgoings (Suarez outgoing is accounted for with Mkhitaryan) as Rodgers wanted business wrapped up as soon as possible, in order to get the players playing together long before the seasons start.

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22 Jun 2013 10:36:35
Hi Eds,

if the rumoured fee for Migniolet IS correct, it raises the question of:

How much must stoke have wanted for Begovic?! {Ed002's Note - The fee quoted for Begovic was rather more - but that was a while back.}

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22 Jun 2013 10:36:23
Suarez and Reina are amazing players. But careful what you wish for especially when you are wishing to the media. Both have said they would leave lfc for a bigger club. that's great, see you later lads, thanks for the memories wish you all the best.
No one is bigger than the team.

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22 Jun 2013 10:30:42
I am gradually getting the feeling that we should always decide how much we think a player is worth then double it. If we paid a lot more for players then I am sure that a lot of the fans/posters who constantly moan about squad players, crap players etc would be happy. 20m does not always mean that the player will be great for us. trust in the manager and qualified coaches and scouts and then judge the players after a season or two.
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True, Keegan cost us £35,000 yet he was a fantastic player, Ray Clemence the same, you don't have to spend £25 million +, it's no guarantee, the people who moan about spending £5/10 million are the first one to condemn if the player is not an instant success! they are probably lining up with daggers in hand ready to backstab our new signings, everything is instant today, if we don't get fourth or win a cup all the BR haters will be out in force calling for his head.

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22 Jun 2013 10:28:05
I've posted a picture of Luis Alberto at the Amalia Restaurant last night. Please check it when it gets uploaded. I've not taken the pic, it was on frrole.com

Cheers

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Who cares he can't even get in their first team that's pretty pathetic considering the players they had. I hope you guys don't expect much from him he is a reserve team player at best.

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You're pathetic, he hasn't even kicked a ball and you're saying he's not good enough! Try SUPPORTING the players

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Deulofeu is stuck in the reserves at Barca, is he a bad player?

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Pretty pathetic post, no name? I wonder why? I hate spineless posters who don't stand by their comments with their team name! Luis Alberto will be a revelation! that's my prediction.

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To the poster who stated Alberto is pathetic for now being able to get into Sevilla's first team at the ripe old age of 20. I have a request of you. My mates and I were watching Dinner For Schmuck's and thought you sounded like a perfect candidate to invite if ever we hold a party like that. So would you like to be our special guest of honour?

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22 Jun 2013 13:28:02
I like how if someone has something negative to say they post anonymously COWARD! give the lad a break he's been in Liverpool just over 24 hours and your already on his back.

ACHILLES.

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22 Jun 2013 10:22:14
It would break my heart to see United sign thiago alcantara for just 15 million although he probably wouldn't want to come to lfc it would be worth a bid at that price

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I agree, I think Thiago is one of the best young players in the world and to get him for less than 20m is robbery. I know LFC would have no chance so i'm hoping he stays at Barca.

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22 Jun 2013 10:16:39
Is this Paulinho that same guy inter Milan wanted to sign in January help please I am 95% certain its him {Ed002's Note - Yes it is.}

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22 Jun 2013 10:08:30
Whenever I am about to sleep my brain activity increases denying me sleep, so last night I got this weird analogy about two people climbing steps. let's say one person is climbing the steps 1 step at a time and the other person is climbing the steps 2 or 3 at a time, this person will go ahead of the person climbing 1 step at a time but eventually tire down and the person steadily climbing 1 step at a time will overtake him. So now in football terms Liverpool is the club taking 1 step at a time and Chelsea/Manchester city are the other person. While we build our club slowly by trying to find future stars and some experienced heads the like of city who have zillions to spend can easily buy the superstars. I am not saying that the clubs who spend mega bucks will just stop doing so or they'll go bad but there is only so much you can be good. Football is a cycle and after being at the top for many years clubs have to rebuild at a certain point of time. I think Manchester United are at that point. We were too at that point a few years back but we didn't do it properly and are now facing the consequences. So Rodgers has built an identity, the players know which brand of football to play, the club is slowly being built back again. So what I am trying to say is that Liverpool will catch up with the top clubs soon if we take the 1 step at a time. Next season is another step, I have no doubt we will be better next season than the last one. This doesn't mean that we'll finish top four. Even if we don't the owners have to back Rodgers because if they don't we'll just end up back at the first step and then we'll have to climb the steps again.

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Thing is you got 6 others at the top of the stairs laughing at us

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22 Jun 2013 11:04:08
Another no name troll! Haha. Grow a pair will ya;)

I can guarantee no one is laughing! Maybe brain-dead nobodys but please believe Spurs & Arsenal realize the threat we are going to pose next season. The bitters will sadly not enjoy many laughs next season. Please believe it.

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You're absolutely right. I think it will be difficult to make top 4 this season, so if we don't I'm hoping the owners will stick by Rogers. It's the only way forward!

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22 Jun 2013 10:04:46
I'm a bit confused about the mkhitaryan stories. Heard he wanted to come to Liverpool and even changed his agent to push a move, but now apparently we are stalling on personal terms. What's going on? Do you think he will come, he looks like a great signing?

Londonred {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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We are not stalling on personal terms, he is only half owned by Shakhtar, please try to keep up .

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These partial ownerships need to be outlawed! It's a disgrace!

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22 Jun 2013 10:02:58
Hi to all of my fellow reds!I am concern that our bellowed club transform in to a club who will sell players after they broke up in the big scene.To all of you who think this is the wright path remember we are in an era of globalization not in 80's when in squads we are not aloud more then 3 foreigners.That's why big clubs don't have time to grow young players, maybe one or maximum two, because if they do that they lose big money from european competitions.To compete at the highest level we must buy proven players at their peaks not only young players with potential.In the 80's clubs have time to buy unknown players like Dalglish or Rush because the money from Europe was very little and the gaps between clubs was insignifiant.Now is diferent and if we lose the gap we losed forever.AND above even all the players don't have time to stick arround with one club because their carriers is short and they wanna win trophies.Sorry for my english.
Mircea

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22 Jun 2013 10:56:01
You should say sorry for your clueless ramblings, not your English.

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That is one of the worst posts I've read. However, The only Reds reply is quality & spot on.

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Eds, this post made me think you could set up a new page for some fun. I'm sure some of the posters on this site will eventually rise to fame in the Darwin Awards but we could always have an 'intellectual post of the week' award (said with a little sarcasm). Just a thought

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22 Jun 2013 10:02:28
Ed, is the problem with the HM deal something so difficult that the club will likely not get sorted, or is it just something that will take some time to get a conclusion from? {Ed002's Note - It is what I have explained it to be. Liverpool know what they need to do to make a deal happen.}

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Yeah they need to pay extortionate amounts of money to greedy agents and crooked businessmen!

Marc

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22 Jun 2013 10:00:54
Is there any interest in Memphis depay? I saw him at the U21 and I thought he was a quality player and has even more potential? He would be a better player than the other wingers we have been linked with. Also does anyone know what has happened to assaidi, was excited when we signed him but hasn't played a game? Is he injured and will he be back for next season?

Thanks for all the effort great site.
Londonred {Ed002's Note - In the short-term he will remain in the Netherlands.}

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22 Jun 2013 09:56:03
Morning eds fellow reds, not moaning but I feel the players that BR has signed / pre signed this window are squad players .I don't see any of the out field players going straight into starting 11 .

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Agree but let's reserve hard judgement untill we have all our business done I would expect atleast 5 to 6 more to come in could be plenty of first team players in that mix

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22 Jun 2013 10:52:43
Moaning the first you do when you wake up? "Nice"

In my opinion Iago Aspas, Kolo Toure, and Mignolet are starters and very good ones as well.

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22 Jun 2013 08:50:54
Hi eds do you think rodgers is trying to get his transfer targets before we report back to training on the 2nd july

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Semms like it mate, good way of doing things. make them gel before the season starts

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22 Jun 2013 08:40:37
morning eds and fellow reds, pleased to see that BR is being backed in the transfer market and I think the new guys will do well for us we seem to be strenthening in all the right areas with the kids to come through it will set us up for the future. I for one am pleased we are not spending silly money on players, as to be honest I don't think the club can afford it, but to be fair FSG have put their hands in their pockets and have/ will shell out big money to land targets, if we do sell players I do not expect all the money will be reinvested in players I think that the owners will rightly want to re coup some of their money as after all they are a business and if you want to do well we have to continue with the improvements and provide the manager with room to develop and to continue to improve both on and off the field. really pleased with progress so far and looking forward to the new season.

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ITs a dangerous strategy BR is following, it could eaqsily blow up in his face and then the Itrust BR brigade will become BR Out!

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22 Jun 2013 08:38:44
have Liverpool looked at illaramendi? we could have another alonso in the making. {Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

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22 Jun 2013 08:37:43
Not unhappy so far with BR wheeling and dealing.

Aspas could prove to be a shrewd signing, technique, skill and pace at a reasonable price, bearing in mind that Valencia amongst others wanted to sign him, I'd rather pay £7m now than wait a year and his price treble.

Luis Alberto, looks a good young player again, look at what Man U paid for Zaha before criticising BR, we could have got a bargain.

Mignolet, top keeper, premier league experience and potential to get better as he is still young, he's a big lad so commanding in the box and a good shot stopper. Very happy with that one!

As for who we are apparently still negotiating for.

Mkhitaryan, really hope we can pull that one off, bags of skill, pace and a good shot, again good scouting and homework by the staff rather than looking at who is the flavour of the month.

Ilori, personally not convinced, but if it happens I'd give the guy a chance as he probably isn't going to be first choice yet.

Papadopoulos/Alderwiereld, for starters it's going to be a nightmare for the shirt printers! But I'd be happy with either of them.

IF Suarez goes. I hope we go for someone like Luis Muriel, but I'd hope we demanded at least £50 m straight cash out of Madrid so that we can replace like for like.

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Top post mate, good to see some optimism!

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I have to say that the signing of Coutinho and Sturridge have encouraged me and I trust BR to get it right again.

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22 Jun 2013 08:36:44
surely suso needs be given his shot at that attacking mid role against lesser sides at home and possibly in cup games

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22 Jun 2013 09:56:16
I second that lol.

ACHILLES.

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Yes mate, I was more excited about him than sterling to be honest with you! just hope he can make the step up to the prem, he was pure class in the reserves!

billynwa

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22 Jun 2013 08:36:39
Despite all his talk, Reina is moving in the summer - Both Napoli and Barca have expressed and interest and, once Mignolet has been confirmed, we will do business - Expect a fairly small fee in the region of £5-7m only.

Surprise signing will be Lee Cattermole from Sunderland - Rogers is looking to add a little steel to the midfield and he has been told he can leave Sunderland - fee of £2.5m max - but do not panic - Not coming as a replacement for anyone - squad signing.

Deal for Mkhitaryan still very much up in the air - No fee agreed and interest from other clubs may well see us lose out - If we do, attention will be turned to Bryan Ruiz of Fulham, with a potential swap (plus cash) with Shelvey.

Suarez will go - Real Madrid interested, as are Napoli (but only if they sell Cavani) plus B Munich also a possibility - fee no more than £40m will be paid. Replacement? No idea but I hope they spend a good % of the money on a quality one!

All the above from a good source but personally, hope the Cattermole one is completely false!

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Of all the players in the EPL, I can't think of too many other players less suitable for the type of football we are trying to play than Lee Cattermole lol.

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Aint that 4 name's?

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Mignolet is being brought in as competition to Reina can't see him leaving and especially not for 5-7 million.

Cartermole I'd be stunned at and unhappy with. When the likes of Ever Banega is available for as little as 8 million, I'd rather we went for him before Southampton sign him.

Would take Muriel great potential, and I think the Mkhitaryan deal will happen next week once all the ownership issues are sorted out.

Alderweireld and Papadopulos are both great players so would be happy with either.

Would still want us to bring in Eriksen for the left. Going for a very reasonable fee so still hoping that comes off.

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Instead of Fox in the box we could have cat in the hole!

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22 Jun 2013 08:29:06
We should sign Spain trio:thiago alcantara, jese rodriguez, gerar deolofeu

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Seriously good if we possibly could abut we will not

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. Anyone want to take a stab at trying to talk sense to this poster?

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Run Forest Run

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22 Jun 2013 07:56:25
I am fully aware that the transfer value isn't really a reflection of the value the player can bring to the team but thought that it was interesting to read that Spurs aren't close to signing Paulinho for £15m and Man U are looming at Alcantara for ten same price. Now while we might not have the same allure as some (Champs league and the bright lights of London) I hope we don't get ripped off with Mickey, ESP when you look at the possibility or Eriksen / Honda etc. Mickey looks a cracking player but for the same price you could get Eriksen and a much needed DM in Wanyama?

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But what if some players don't want to come to Liverpool?

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Well said.

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22 Jun 2013 07:50:59
Please Ed what do u think about the signings Alberto and aspas are these just players like borini? Why do we keep buying these 6-7 mil unproven kids surely we need to sign 1 established player for 12 mil instead . no wonder Suarez reina want to leave

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Yes like Coutinho, just think what we could have signed with 8million we spent on him.

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22 Jun 2013 10:44:41
Pathetic post by all standards! What established players are going for 12million? This ain't fifa lad, wake up!

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22 Jun 2013 07:50:55
eds reds considering all the problems, so we are told, which players would you prefer? papa-alderweld- or douglas? mickey- erikson- honda? note that the third choice in each section would be a free(or small fee) it would be interesting to get your thoughts, of course the only opinion really counts is br"s! thanks, godbless96 steviep62.

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22 Jun 2013 07:36:29
Hi eds, it is now clear that Liverpool want to bring in another Cb, and the targets are Ilori and papa. Out of these two who do u think we will get and what will they offer the team?

Cheers {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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22 Jun 2013 07:32:07
Hi Ed002,
with Mignolet arriving does this mean Reina is going somewhere this summer? thank you. {Ed002's Note - I expect he will.}

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22 Jun 2013 02:03:14
We should buy Honda, the revenue we would get from the asain market would pay for his fee and salary by itself, so there seems to be no outlay from LFC at all, we have no asian players so it is a completely untapped part of the market for us that we should expose, he is a great player with sell on value so fits the LFC current model, I think its good business, financially and in terms of the team! Any thoughts eds? Thanks! {Ed002's Note - None of this is true.}

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Don't know how many times I have said what Ed002 just said.
The club get barely any money from shirt sales, they pretty much all go to Warrior; do people think they will pay 80m and Liverpool get money from shirt sales?
Secondly Liverpool should only sign players who are good enough to play not for any other reason. Japanese money? No thanks. American money? Not for me.

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22 Jun 2013 01:28:13
don't know if the situation been resolved yet, but I would go for papisse cisse, who refuses to wear Wonga shirt, with all the attacking actions at club he would score more 4 us then newcastle

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22 Jun 2013 01:26:50
9, 10, 11 million is a lot for a keeper but if we get 5, 6 years out off him its money well spent plus if pep stays or goes we will wwin which way he goes . so my opinion good business

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22 Jun 2013 01:20:43
Since Fred is close to joining Shaktar, is that deal relevant to Mkhitaryans exit? {Ed002's Note - HM leaving is related to a club paying the necessary amount and the player agreeing a move. It is nothing to do with anyone else.}

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22 Jun 2013 01:18:10
This lad. luis Alberto looks like a talent, those that know football know how hard it is to put perfect weight on a pass at any level. Time will tell but not many players of his age possess such a skill, not only that he has real presence about him which appears to strike fear into the opposing defence. As I say time will tell, the rigours of the Premiership have swallowed many a talent but Liverpool presents this lad with an opportunity to play to the style of football he was raised on. BR is building an attack minded, interchangeable side which will be very difficult for the opposition to mark, expect plenty of goals, a high work rate, more fluid football, beter distribution and push to breakthrough the top four. I trust BR's philosaphy and believe he can get this team to gel and hit the ground running. YNWA (WiseLFC)

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22 Jun 2013 01:06:36
Happy with the Mignolet signing, good to think we'll have a keeper that can get a few mom accolades during the course of the season and be responsible for gaining those vital extra points when the going gets tough.
Last season David Dgea for the eventual champions got quite a few mom awards.
You need that from your keeper if going to challenge at the top and over the last few seasons, no one can deny it's been a problem positition for us.
We've conceded goals from corners and free kicks on an alarmingly regular basis.
It's my opinion that Daniel Agger is the only one worth keeping out of the central 3 of Reina, Skyrtel and Agger.
It's very important that if we are to play an offensive attacking formation that those 3 positions are supremely strong.

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22 Jun 2013 00:59:45
Arsenal are very interested in Reina and Skrtel and talks over the last couple of days between agents are looking favourable. No fees have been discussed as yet, but if the price is right, both sides will be happy. Douglas is a new possibility for Liverpool as Papa is out and more money will be available for 'Micky' who is Brendans No 1 prority. Ilori is more or less done, agents fees holding it up. Atsus agent has told Porto to take our offer or he will leave for free next year.

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22 Jun 2013 00:56:19
Hi there, my first time posting. Heard a few rumours regarding a few youngsters. Sergi canos barca yungster. Pedro chirivella valencia yungster-nxt busquet. Herbie kane and yan dhanda from west brom to sign. Tyto the RED BULLDOG

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22 Jun 2013 00:37:28
Really happy with our dealings so far this summer, hope the alberto and mignolet deals go through without a hitch. These signings along with a defensive midfielder and centre back will really improve the squad and a top 4 finish is more than achievable

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22 Jun 2013 00:19:17
hey eds, are we looking to sale any player apart from Skrtel, Reina .
Are there any offers for Downing {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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21 Jun 2013 23:58:19
Hi Eds,

Surely if we could splash out about £20+ million on Micky and £11-12m on Mignolet, we could have instead signed Jackson Martinez for between £25-£30m?

This could have been a bargain buy (considering the inflated prices these days) like Suarez was. Poor transfer policy once again. Imagine Martinez, Sturridge, Coutinho and possibly Suarez if he remained; top 4 quality. What a shame.

Cheers {Ed002's Note - And not bother having a goalkeeper? Sure.}

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I think buying a top class attacking midfielder and a prem goalie for the price you want to pay for 1 player is not bad in my opinion.and I'm sure if/when we sell suarez we will invest in a top class striker.so chill out and be positive!

Ynwa

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Put Mickey in Goal Doh!

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21 Jun 2013 23:44:29
Mignolet - £11 million.
Fantastic keeper, but I am a little concerned at the impact on Reina - yes there has been this mention of Barcelona and we all know he does want to go there if there is an offer (boyhood club, champions league, fantastic team - I don't blame him), but Valdes is staying and Reina came out yesterday stating he's staying.

With Mignolet stating that being that its a World Cup year, he wants to be playing regularly and spending that amount on him means he's pretty much guaranteed the number 1 position.

It just seems that we are pushing Reina out, which is hugely disrespectful to a player who has given so much service to us. Its a World Cup year for Reina too and he needs to be playing regularly (Spain has a number of world class keepers). Especially as he has said he is staying.

I know that Reina hasn't been at his best in the last 2 seasons. But even at this level he is far better than most keepers. I think Stats can be misleading too as his "decline" has coincided with the decline of the club. In addition, saves, cross handling etc, we forget that Reina's distribution is the best, at times he is the starting point of our attach. With the cub looking like we can make a big challenge next year I think we would see a fantastic Reina next season.

Reina is likely to go to Barcelona next year with Valdes leaving. Mignolet will be in his final year of his contract and we would get him at much better value too.

I guess that's my two pence. i'm sure its apparent I am a huge fan of Reina - 3 golden glove wins - I also feel it would be good if he was leaving then the fans have a chance to give him a send off that he deserves. The way it looks is that we are now forcing him out. I can understand that his name was being mentioned with the Barcelona role (but his name has been mentioned with many clubs - Arsenal etc, yet he has never made noises about moving - Barcelona is his boyhood club) - but he has said he is staying.

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Sorry pal but Rodgers needs to do what is best for the club in his eyes.

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I agree that Reina is a great keeper but what would happen if Barca comes in near the end of the window and he leaves us, then we would slat BR for not doing anything. He has looked at a potential problem and has acted to bring in a very good keeper

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I guess having a keeper who can start an attack 4-5 times a season is better than having a goalkeeper who can make 10-15 simply incredible saves a season? Thought so.

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21 Jun 2013 23:29:47
eds now that madrid have bid for Cavani, do they maintain an interest in Suarez or will he go elsewhere?
Also do you think Reina will now leave? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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