Liverpool Banter Archive February 23 2011

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23 Feb 2011 23:57:08
5 down from last one mate thanks

23 Feb 2011 23:53:54
Please ed reply to my earlier post reallywant to know what your thoughts are mate thanks {ed's note - which post was that mate?}

23 Feb 2011 23:50:01
{ed's note - I see a huge difference in their attitude to the game and in ability to manage to string a run of games together. Robben has great ability but he would rather roll around on the floor and whine than play on when he is through on goal. Add that to him being injury prone and you have a player that is not worth buying when his wages are obscene.}

Yes Robben is a disgrace and is very injury prone. I didn't mean him personally I just mean that the quality we've been looking at (Young, Gervinho, N'zogbia, Turan) are a lot weaker then teams that we will be competing with are looking at (Mata, Hazard, Sanchez).

If we get Young, Arsenal get Hazard and Chelsea get Sanchez, we're just going to be falling away from the other clubs. If we want to be competing with them then we have got to be going after the same quality as them lot are. {ed's note - except that Arsenal will still have a porous defence, Chelsea will still have old men and Kenny will get the most possible out of Young.}

23 Feb 2011 23:48:36
Jay b {ed's note - I don't see the need to give Everton a player, they need cash badly.}

ed im not sayin theres a need 2 giv them a player, im sayin that they hav expressed interest in him and we could save a couple of million on signing baines if we included him and actually went for baines, although if we keep him for a couple of years he could improve, or could join everton and be a huge success. its just a thought {ed's note - I don't know I would want to give up Eccleston, I would rather lose Ngog, I don't see that lad ever making it.}

23 Feb 2011 23:35:59

23 Feb 2011 22:58:11
Ed do you know if we have been watching or had any interest in Arjen Robben? {ed's note - nothing as far as I know.}

Don't be silly. We neve look at world class players. Teams like Chelsea, Arsenal and United show interest in Sanchez, Mata and Hazard.

We should interest in N'zogbia and Young. You see the difference in quality? {ed's note - I see a huge difference in their attitude to the game and in ability to manage to string a run of games together. Robben has great ability but he would rather roll around on the floor and whine than play on when he is through on goal. Add that to him being injury prone and you have a player that is not worth buying when his wages are obscene.}

23 Feb 2011 23:38:33
Ed do u reckon we could get baines with maybe a player plus cash deal, possibly eccleston? i can't see him making it at liverpool 2 be honest, but baines wud be a real coup, been the best left back in the league this season. ed?

jay b {ed's note - I don't see the need to give Everton a player, they need cash badly.}

23 Feb 2011 23:03:08
Hi ed and all just looking through the good and the bad posts today. But do you agree that we need about 7 players i think another top striker my first choice would be aguero, but buy wickham for in a couple of years when he has adapted to liverpool system.
A quality defensive midfielder alonso back in heart beat, another attacking midfielder, adam and more importantly two worldy wingers if available for me alexis sanchez on the right and ashley young on the left if not honda.
and left back either leighton baines, or coentrao for me what do you think everyone and what do you think ed i really think we need these aquistions but i also know we need to sell first as well.
But as you probably had pointed out to you so many times and im sorry to bore you but net we have only spent about 3 million in january so with the bab man going and toress going so maybe we will spend big in summer but for the positons that r needed as above.

What do you think ed??
And who would you have?? ?
And please let me know the list of players you would let go?? ?
I would defo keep cole as kenny said he will give him time he needs to get back to his best defo for one more yera at least without the injuries so we can judge him for what he does on pitch?? ?

23 Feb 2011 23:02:01
Joe cole and glen johnson are quality england internationals, who both have great attitudes and work ethics as well as being extremely skillful football players.
I'm getting pretty bored of people bashing them. Let's be honest if you don't rate two of england's match winners then you have no eye for talent whatsoever.
Duckula

23 Feb 2011 22:31:58
Anybody got any idea if Sami is likely to return to join the coaching staff as was reported last year?

23 Feb 2011 22:07:30
Best realistic situation that this season could bring:

Arsenal to win the league over united.
Chelsea to finish in the europa league spots denying torres and most importantly chelsea champions league football.
Europe league victory, always nice to win a cup final.
Andy Carroll and Suarez to form some sort of partnership and to have a positive end of the season beating the teams we should beat!
I know I will be chearing on Arsenal to a certain extent (hope they get knocked out of the champions league to concentrate on winning the title!)
This is just my opinion, and looking back 2 months ago i would have bit someones hand off to be in this situation. Just wondering if you guys agree?

23 Feb 2011 22:10:12
We all know we need wingers. I can't think of many wingers who would want to join us and who would be good enough for us.

The likes of N'zogbia, Turan, Young, Lennon are not good enough IMO

We need a winger like Sanchez, Hazard, Mata but I don't think we can attract them to us.

I think Merveaux looks likely to join but he isn't first choice, good back up.

I do have a feeling we'll sign Charlie Adam, Ashley Young and Merveaux.

23 Feb 2011 21:44:41
Great suso on the updated version of FIFA

23 Feb 2011 21:39:28
Is it my tv or did the marsielle player taking the corners have an odd bod with short arms, i seem to remember him at wc and thinking same, ?

23 Feb 2011 21:41:41
Well manowe were no better away than us in prague,

23 Feb 2011 21:19:09
23 Feb 2011 20:17:49
Driving up for the game tomorrow night, any suggestions on where to park please?

try the garage opossite the permit holders car park . they usually ask for about a tenner and is pretty safe . . .one word of advice though get up there early

23 Feb 2011 21:20:08
BREAKING NEWS! !berbaflop has actually stayed on his feet in penalty area, mind you theres 15 mins to go yet, 25 with fergie time,

23 Feb 2011 21:04:24
No matter how you score them,
with yr foot and then with yr head,
yr name is andy carroll, youll always be a red,
jimmybosun, lol
what do you think, ?obviuosly to boyzones, {ed's note - I have no idea what tune it is though mate, you say obviously but I don't actually know any Boyzone songs. Luckily my daughter is a little young to have had that phase.}
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its one of their biggest hits, geez ed how old are you, was it cold in the ground this morning, loljimmybosun, {ed's note - 36 mate, but I have never been into boy bands mate, but then I have never been a pre-pubescent girl so they aren't going to be my thing.}

23 Feb 2011 21:00:59
Will people stop quoting around the 8 million mark for Charlie Adam, he will be available for around 3-4 million max.

23 Feb 2011 20:54:29
Where were we why couldnt get get players like this {ed's note - the same place every other club in the world that didn't buy those players was in.}

23 Feb 2011 20:55:37
Hi ed, just thought of a good chant for ac, i want the plaudits if its sung at anfield,
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no matter how you score them,
with yr foot and then with yr head,
yr name is andy carroll, youll always be a red,
jimmybosun, lol
what do you think, ?obviuosly to boyzones, {ed's note - I have no idea what tune it is though mate, you say obviously but I don't actually know any Boyzone songs. Luckily my daughter is a little young to have had that phase.}

23 Feb 2011 20:47:08
Yes why would it not be maicon was singed from monaco and so was evra only cost about 5 million to so ? {ed's note - what is your point?}

23 Feb 2011 20:32:17
Ed how come we can't get players like maicon or evra there deemed the best fullbacks in the world and they wernt even half of what they are worth now ? {ed's note - is this question for real?}

23 Feb 2011 20:35:04
Taiwo isn't playing but I know who we missed out in the summer. . Loic Remy; he looks sharp, good pssing, pacey. .

23 Feb 2011 20:17:49
Driving up for the game tomorrow night, any suggestions on where to park please?

23 Feb 2011 19:48:59
Huntelaar is having a good season at Shalke 04. He would be a good player to have in a team, especally for LFC because Huntelaar and Suarez played well together at Ajax.

23 Feb 2011 19:50:10
Going to watch Taiwo tonight (Marseille V United) and see whether he's any good against a quality winger (hopefully Nani is playing on the right).
Olly

23 Feb 2011 19:04:26
23 Feb 2011 17:39:06
No no no gerrard isn't a holding player !
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The older he gets the slower he will become. so will be a superb holding midfielder in 2/ 3 years!

23 Feb 2011 18:48:19
Suarez wearing the number 3 on his training gear today, i thought he was our number 7

23 Feb 2011 18:45:22
Kenny is looking to Sign Biram Kayal a young Israeli Centre Mid from Celtic. Good prospect in matches i have seen him in. 5-6m

Hardly gonna happen. Kayal gave an interview recently where he said that he felt at home in glasgow and wants to spend the next 5-6 years at the club.

People are saying that he was scouting at the Old Firm Derby, i doubt it but maybe he was, he was probably at the match because of his connection with Celtic.

I'd much rather us to sign some proven talent like:
Ashley Young ( 18m should be sufficient I'd say)
Niko Kranjcar ( 12m and not a penny more)

On of the above with marveaux would be a good summer
Charlie Adam should complete his move fairly early in the window for 8.5m

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Niko Kranjcar. . . . . .Spurs paid 2mil for him. . . Strange how can they ask 12 mil for him??

Same for Adam. . . .Blackpool got him for 500K but are asking for 14 mil for him. . . . .

Ridiculous prices and unbelievable hypocrisy. . . . .

23 Feb 2011 18:36:03
Martinez, M'vila and Banega are all much better options than Adam, he's really not all that.

E.H LFC

23 Feb 2011 18:32:15
182 top flight clubs and over 10,000 people from different countries were surveyed and the Reds outshone their opponents, and sit third in the table of the 10 biggest profit-making clubs in Europe, with United only placed in sixth position.
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Thats profit mate - Utd have a far higher turnover (its just their owners are remedials and super inefficient and have made a loss).#
Olly

23 Feb 2011 18:32:19
23 Feb 2011 17:39:06

No no no gerrard isn't a holding player !

Didn't read the original post u were replying to but Gerrard could put a motm performance in any position on the pitch. I seem to remember him playing a few blinders at RB as a youngster. Obviously u would want him further up the pitch creating and makin things happen but if needs be. .

Wavertree red

23 Feb 2011 17:58:41
Its really annoying that if we wanted Adam that much, we didn't just stump up 10 million in January, and played him against the likes of Wigan- who knows if his energy would have been enough to get us all three points, and he could have been vital in helping us push for 4th spot.
With hindsight, 10 million would have been cheap if it wouldve gotten us to 4th.
Home grown players are always going to be overpriced with the current rules, its a fact of life. God only knows what we'd have to pay for Adam Johnson- I dread to think.
Thing is, Spurs and others are going to be after Adam in the summer (which that d**head Comolli should have known would happen), so his price is going to go up way past anything we would have paid in January anyway.

23 Feb 2011 17:49:49
Not strictly speaking a rumour, but worth putting there Ed so as many people see it as poss.

From Goal.com:
"Liverpool are more popular than Manchester United, according to a report published by Sport+Markt and PR Marketing.

The report takes into account the amount of profit generated by merchandise sales.

182 top flight clubs and over 10,000 people from different countries were surveyed and the Reds outshone their opponents, and sit third in the table of the 10 biggest profit-making clubs in Europe, with United only placed in sixth position.

Real Madrid and Barcelona topped the table, which meant the Primera Division became the biggest league generator of revenue having generated 190 million, with the bulk of that coming from the Catalan and Madrid clubs."

Next time Man U or Chelski fans try to brag about who are the biggest club in England, tell them this.
Also, I heard LFC are the most-watched side on TV too, when they are in a top spot- probably not at the moment because not in CL, but soon. .

23 Feb 2011 17:39:06
No no no gerrard isn't a holding player !

23 Feb 2011 17:22:26
Just been chatting to a colleague about what Liverpool should do in the summer regarding transfers and below is our hypothesis.

We both agree that the 3-5-2 with wing backs is a good formation. With this formation we don't need wingers as the wing backs provide the width but do need centre mids to ping balls to the wings/ centre forwards as well as other tasks. So if Kenny is to favour this formation I assume his summer targets will be centre mids/ a LB and maybe a centre back (3 at the back, carra and kyriakos are old wilson is unproven so would neeed cover).

However, we also agreed that you can't always play 3 -5 -2, sometimes there is a need to play 4-4-2 which is where you need full backs and wingers.So if this were to be the formation Kenny prefers he will need to buy at LEAST 1 quality winger and probably a centre mid too.

Point being it makes it hard for Kenny to buy in the summer if he wants to keep both options open (4-4-2 and 3-5-2) because there would be a need to invest in a LB, Wingers, CM and possible another CB and another striker.

What do we think, is 3-5-2 just for this season with this squad or is it a formation Kenny and co might want to take forward and if so how is he going to buy enough quality for all positions?

NorthWestBest

23 Feb 2011 17:20:32
Watching bbc news today and saw a speech by ghaddfi (libiyan leader) his gestures and ranting reminded me of 'ol red nose' at manure any one else see the resemblence

23 Feb 2011 17:06:25
Do people agree with me that on the banter page it should be 'agree' and 'disagree' rather than believable or unbelievable (this isn't really banter).
Olly

23 Feb 2011 17:04:53
My point is the lad at the other end of the line could have just said sorry we don't do that which I know a lot of clubs do, he could not have cared. The ethos of Liverpool is no-one is bigger than the club. Liverpool is a family and we care for one another when you join this family. Through out the club everyone is respected and loved. No club understands how important fans are more than L.F.C. as there would be no club with out the fans. The actions by everyone at the club in this instance show what Liverpool think of our great supporters. Now Laurel and Hardy have gone and the old guard are back we are getting back to what made this club so respected and admired throughout the world.

I agree that this is great but FIFA need to introduce a wage cap so that people can go and see games and ticket prices aren't so ridiculous.

23 Feb 2011 16:57:40
Looks like Raul Meireles is going to win February's PFA player of the month (he's favourite anyway with Nani, Barton, Van Persie and Tevez behind him)
Who do you reckon's going to win it Ed?
Olly {ed's note - no idea mate, not something I take any notice of to be honest.}

23 Feb 2011 16:58:34
Ed, everyone trusts KK buting players etc, but if he doesn't rate banega and martinez and would rather but adam, i don't feel very secure mate even with the ashley young thing as well. If we buy Young and adam, i feel we could to doing a rafa buting poor players when better are available.However as a man manager kk is world class but with him and cammoli picking our players, I am quite nervous about the summer. Ed, thoughts? {ed's note - just because you and me might see Banega and Martinez as better players, it doesn't mean they are going to fit into the system Kenny wants to play.}

23 Feb 2011 16:51:47
Ed, any chance of us getting rodwell?

{Editor's Note: No, I would not have thought so.}

23 Feb 2011 16:35:10
Fellaini is first-choice because he's a hoofer and kicks people off the park. Rodwell is a tidier, more technical player and tries to pass the ball about. Sadly, Gollum doesn't like this and prefers to play the 'Fro.
Fellaini wouldn't get in a Champions League team, or any good team for that matter. If I could have any Everton player it'd be Baines, then Rodwell. Fellaini would be further down the list with his mediocre mates like Osman and Howard.

Tidier more technical player my a***. Fellaini is first choice because he is a better all round player. Simple. Look up his little trick against Man City last season for an example of technique. He would walk into our team and probably any of the top 4 teams as well. Rodwell is over hyped because he is English but can't even get a regular start for a team battling relegation!

he is overrated because he is englsh, fellaini wouldn't get into any top 4 team and everton are noy fightin relegation {ed's note - Rodwell is rated so highly because he stood out a mile as a kid and is one of the best young prospects around.}

23 Feb 2011 16:35:39
Found this on lfctv website, this is why kenny is a true king Search this Thread

#1 Today, 15:35
jezar
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proof we are one big family

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great read .
By John Doherty

A big hello to all my fellow L.F.C. fans. Here is a little story to warm your hearts about the great people at our great club.

I was in my local pub in Southampton (I moved there from Liverpool 21 years ago) having a pint or two when the landlord came down to do his shift. I was all prepared for our usual banter about his dislike for Liverpool (he strangely thinks Saints are much better) when he came out with "full respect to Kenny and Liverpool football club". I thought "here we go" thinking here comes the dig. He then went on to tell me a story of a local who is a nice lad who just found out he had a very aggressive form of cancer and he has less than 2 months to live. His mum phoned up L.F.C. and explained to the lad on the phone how he was a massive Liverpool fan and had never been to Anfield and his one wish was to see his beloved club once before he died. The lad on the other end of the line listened to her story which was just to get some autographs of his favourite players. The lad said to her "can I call you back in 20 minuets please?" 10 minuets later her phone rang and the voice on the other end said in a Scottish accent "Hello this is Kenny Dalglish here can I speak to your son please. Kenny had taken the time straight away as soon as he heard the news to call her back. He spent the next hour talking to him laughing and joking listening and sharing stories with him. This would have been the best day of his life until King Kenny invited him to Anfield where the lad was given the full works, he was introduced to the players before the game and then with his family was sent up to the directors box where a great big spread was put on for them. At the end he was given half the shop to take away with him. This was the best day ever he said and while telling his story you could see what it meant to him by his eyes welling up and his voice breaking. That should have been it but Kenny then found out that the pub had set up a collection for the ward that is looking after him and the hospice. Kenny gave £250,000 to it out of his own pocket! We all know that this is a subject very close to Kenny's heart with the sad loss of family members to cancer

So I hear you cry what's the point of this story.

My point is the lad at the other end of the line could have just said sorry we don't do that which I know a lot of clubs do, he could not have cared. The ethos of Liverpool is no-one is bigger than the club. Liverpool is a family and we care for one another when you join this family. Through out the club everyone is respected and loved. No club understands how important fans are more than L.F.C. as there would be no club with out the fans. The actions by everyone at the club in this instance show what Liverpool think of our great supporters. Now Laurel and Hardy have gone and the old guard are back we are getting back to what made this club so respected and admired throughout the world.

This my friends is why Liverpool will be back on top sooner rather than later {ed's note - that is more an instance about how great a man Kenny is than how great Liverpool is to be fair. Some work colleagues of me mam (Geordies from when she was working in the area) went to the hotel they knew the Newcastle team was staying in during Dalglish's time in charge. In the bar there was Dalglish having a quiet drink, after a few minutes plucking up the courage the pair of them went over to him and asked for his autograph. He said to them to hang on five minutes as he had to do something, then he would be back to sign whatever they wanted. Anyway he told the barman that whatever they wanted to drink was on him while they waited. After ten minutes waiting (and drinking!) they were beginning to think they had been fobbed off and were just wondering whether to wait any longer when they heard a commotion in the lobby. Next thing Kenny walks in with the entire squad and coaching staff and had them spend the next couple of hours chatting and signing autographs and when the pair left they had all sorts of signed shirts, photos and balls to take with them.}

23 Feb 2011 16:22:06
Ed, just reading someones comments about adam and i actually totally agree, we have never replace alonso' and ino adam isn't as good as alonso but i think he could become a great player in time just as alonso became great at 27 mark. Ed, do you not rate adam? {ed's note - he is a good player, but not at that level at all.}

23 Feb 2011 16:23:18
Why is everyone sayin were signing the likes of adam n afellay who r both too attacking we need a good holding defensive midfielder so maybe defour from standard liege but im not sure who out there is good enuf (What do you think ed)? {ed's note - Martinez and Banega are better than Defour in my opinion and he is not a holding defensive midfielder anyway.}

23 Feb 2011 16:28:13
23 Feb 2011 10:41:58
To the muppet who thinks Dossena never played for Liverpool, , dude go support another team please you clearly have no clue about the mighty reds. .
Jones101

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I have been a reds supporter for over 50 years and i know he never played for us "dude". Go back to school.

{editor: You must be joking, 08-10 he was a Liverpool player.}

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Anyone else spot the Irony?

23 Feb 2011 16:30:18
If kenny sticks to the 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 formation he is playing then to be honest i fink we only need 2 1st team players wich are coentroe for lb and adam or banega, but we need strenght in depth wich we aint had unlike the top 5 teams. wot u fink ed and peeps?

REINA
KELLY CARRA AGGER
JOHNSON COENTROE
BANEGA/ ADAM
MEIRELES GERRARD
SUAREZ
CARROLL {ed's note - we defo have a need for a stronger squad, Adam would be useless as a holding midfielder by the way, he has no defensive ability at all.}

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i meant to drop gerrard in to holding mid and adam wit meireles, gerrard aint gtn no younger, he has an eye for a pass and can tackle and being captain wud be able to influence the game more from a deeper role. wot u fink? {ed's note - he is very lazy defensively, which is why Rafa pushed him further up front, he constantly goes to sleep, hence the lunging tackles. It would be a terrible mistake to play him in a holding role.}

23 Feb 2011 16:09:04
Editor mate, as a suppoter for 37 years, at the end of the day you are just an Ed who i repsect, but you or the other Ed said that there is no need for him. He has been in outstanding form this season because he is a proper PASSING midfielder. He may not be the best but he is outstanding and is just what we need for the middle of the park.GERRARD is and never was a passing midfielder that sets the tempo, lucas isn't it and merielses looks like a lampard that pouches goals but isn't capable of controling the play. Yes we may have alot of cover even with shelvy but i feel adam would improve us in our play, and he is also excellent at set pieces'. Cheers mate

23 Feb 2011 15:36:02
If kenny sticks to the 3-5-2 or 5-3-2 formation he is playing then to be honest i fink we only need 2 1st team players wich are coentroe for lb and adam or banega, but we need strenght in depth wich we aint had unlike the top 5 teams. wot u fink ed and peeps?

REINA
KELLY CARRA AGGER
JOHNSON COENTROE
BANEGA/ ADAM
MEIRELES GERRARD
SUAREZ
CARROLL {ed's note - we defo have a need for a stronger squad, Adam would be useless as a holding midfielder by the way, he has no defensive ability at all.}

23 Feb 2011 15:10:09
I'm sorry, Harry J, but you are completely delusional if you think Fellaini could walk into our or any other good team's First XI. He's a hoofer. Distin gets the ball, hoofs it up, Fellaini takes it down, passes it to Saha or Cahill and they have a shot on goal.
He wouldn't last a second in any good footballing team. The reason Rodwell can't get in is because he plays football on the ground. Just look at Everton's next game and you'll see every time Fellaini gets the ball he's either heading it down for someone or passing backwards. He then gives it away and goes clattering into an opponent and gets a yellow card. He's not like Mascherano, Mascherano had a purpose; to break up play and give the ball to Alonso who would then mastermind an attack. He's just there to attack people.

I knew you were pessimistic and an all-round wet blanket, Harry J, but I never knew you didn't know a bad footballer when you saw one.

Martin

You seem to be contradicting yourself here Martin.
In one sentence you talk about him creating chances for Saha and Cahill, then you say he only attacks people and passes the ball back.
You my friend don't know a good footballer.
You will be telling me you think Lucas is better than him next!

PS
In his spare time when not committing GBH and going backwards the defensive player has scored 11 goals in 72 appearances whereas Lucas has notched up 1 in 100 appearances and the technically gifted Rodwell has scored 2 in 62

Harry J

23 Feb 2011 15:02:02
Dossena never played for us, he just occasionally wore the red shirt.
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He scored in both games when we put 4 past both the mancs and real madrid? I bet you were jumping up and down when scored, because I was? ?

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Well of course i did, Mr un-named poster. My point was that he was absolute tosh along with many other full-backs tried by Rafa (Josemi, Kromkamp, Degen, Insua). I suppose he's gone straight into your top ten full-backs on the back of his Old Trafford chip ?
G SPOT

23 Feb 2011 14:52:58
Dossena never played for us, he just occasionally wore the red shirt.
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He scored in both games when we put 4 past both the mancs and real madrid? I bet you were jumping up and down when scored, because I was? ?

23 Feb 2011 14:50:05
"It's BENOIT Cheyrou who plays for marseille. His older brother Bruno (the one who played for us) plays for Nantes in Ligue 2. Bruno simply didn't live up to expectations". . .

Ah yes, your right i remember him from when we played OM now. i was at a loss to see how Bruno would be playing in the CL . . French Div 2 is probably his standard. .(great winner at Stamford Bridge though). G SPOT

23 Feb 2011 14:42:20
Tidier more technical player my a***. Fellaini is first choice because he is a better all round player. Simple. Look up his little trick against Man City last season for an example of technique. He would walk into our team and probably any of the top 4 teams as well. Rodwell is over hyped because he is English but can't even get a regular start for a team battling relegation!

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I'm sorry, Harry J, but you are completely delusional if you think Fellaini could walk into our or any other good team's First XI. He's a hoofer. Distin gets the ball, hoofs it up, Fellaini takes it down, passes it to Saha or Cahill and they have a shot on goal.
He wouldn't last a second in any good footballing team. The reason Rodwell can't get in is because he plays football on the ground. Just look at Everton's next game and you'll see every time Fellaini gets the ball he's either heading it down for someone or passing backwards. He then gives it away and goes clattering into an opponent and gets a yellow card. He's not like Mascherano, Mascherano had a purpose; to break up play and give the ball to Alonso who would then mastermind an attack. He's just there to attack people.

I knew you were pessimistic and an all-round wet blanket, Harry J, but I never knew you didn't know a bad footballer when you saw one.

Martin

23 Feb 2011 14:26:22
Tidier more technical player my a***. Fellaini is first choice because he is a better all round player. Simple. Look up his little trick against Man City last season for an example of technique. He would walk into our team and probably any of the top 4 teams as well. Rodwell is over hyped because he is English but can't even get a regular start for a team battling relegation!
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Well, it will be interesting to see when Man Utd come knocking on Evertons door if it's for Rodwell or Fellaini. Unfortunately I don't think it will be Fellaini

The Irish Rover

23 Feb 2011 14:24:30
Ed will Andy Carroll play on sunday {ed's note - I doubt it, but you can never tell with Dalglish in charge.}

23 Feb 2011 14:16:13
It's BENOIT Cheyrou who plays for marseille. His older brother Bruno (the one who played for us) plays for Nantes in Ligue 2. Bruno simply didn't live up to expectations.

23 Feb 2011 14:11:32
Please stop staying you want Taiwo. I bet you have never really seen him play on regular basis. I can tell you he is absolutely not good enough for us. We would have a player who can barely cross and barely defend. He may have a tremendous shot power but it doesn't compensate for his flaws. So remember, TAIWO = NOT GOOD! !

23 Feb 2011 13:49:52
I agree Kjaer not good enough better option at CB would be Lovren or maybe Hummels or Ruano in fact Ruano plays left back as well and could be ideal. What you reckon Ed

{Editor's Note: I can't really think to start trying to compare four separate centre backs at random who, as far as I know, Liverpool have no interest in. Certainly Ruano will not be available.}

23 Feb 2011 13:40:00
Does anyone know where i can can text commentary for the youth game today vs Huddersfield. Should be a good game. Ed, any ideas?

{Editor's Note: I can't help but maybe someone else can.}

23 Feb 2011 13:22:45
ha i love this dossena "been a lfc fan for 50 years" guy. Everytime he posts something its more stupid than the previous post. I think he actualy slept through one of our finest premier league seasons! Book yourself into a home you senile old man.
PS re. Kjaer. Not good enough. How many of you actualy watch the german bundesliga and see how many goals wolfsburg concede and where they are in the table? A poor defender in a poor league. So stop repeating yourselves and cut out the kjaer to lfc carp.
Red bl00ded!

23 Feb 2011 13:23:13
" flat back four"
I assume you just mean 'back four'. A flat or 'square 'back four would be a defensive nightmare.

23 Feb 2011 13:25:54
Just watching SSN and saw the preview of the Marseillle / Spam match. Nearly wet myself when i saw "the next Zinedine Zidane" lining up for OM. Bruno effing Cheyrou. .was he toilet or did we get him too young ?
G SPOT

23 Feb 2011 13:27:06
Fellaini is first-choice because he's a hoofer and kicks people off the park. Rodwell is a tidier, more technical player and tries to pass the ball about. Sadly, Gollum doesn't like this and prefers to play the 'Fro.
Fellaini wouldn't get in a Champions League team, or any good team for that matter. If I could have any Everton player it'd be Baines, then Rodwell. Fellaini would be further down the list with his mediocre mates like Osman and Howard.

Tidier more technical player my a***. Fellaini is first choice because he is a better all round player. Simple. Look up his little trick against Man City last season for an example of technique. He would walk into our team and probably any of the top 4 teams as well. Rodwell is over hyped because he is English but can't even get a regular start for a team battling relegation!

Harry J

Harry J

23 Feb 2011 13:27:38
23 Feb 2011 12:10:07
23 Feb 2011 00:46:18
I've been pretty fortunate with my daughter in that respect MR EM. While other 8 year old girls have Mily Cyrus, The Jonas brothers etc, as screen savers on their mobiles, she has a black and white picture of Shankly on hers. Even at 8 years of age she understands the ethos, that is required to be an LFC fan.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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My eldest daughter is also 8 but unfortunately no matter how hard i try she has no interest in football, although i think i had a break through at the weekend, she came home with a build-a-bear wearing the LFC outfit, so my fingers are crossed that i am finaly making a break through!

MR EM

fair play to both of you for bringing your children up in a manner that will teach them respect and what loyalty means, i myself have a 3 year old son and we live 10 minutes from old toilet but when asked which football team are the best my son in the middle of Stretford said "Liverpool" - now that's my boy! !

bigg2966

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Guys, please learn from the master, i have two six-year-old daughters (twins), one I admit is into Babies, dolls and anything pink (another shade of red, I must add) but my other daughter is a full blooded red, she has a Gerrard kit which she asked for from Father Christmas, and she wears it all the time with the exception of when it is in the washing machine.

She watches games with me, she keeps asking to watch Match of the Day again and again to see the highlights even though she has seen them already that day.

Another red fan added to the millions worldwide - I thank you.

PS My Brother-in-law tried in vain to make her an Arsenal fan, when she went to stay with her Auntie for a weekend. I was not pleased. But she was a star and stayed loyal - Stevie G is her favourite player.

23 Feb 2011 13:01:22
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23 Feb 2011 12:38:14
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.
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When I first saw this I was waiting for the punchline, now I realise the poor boy is serious and genuinely has no idea that Dossena played for us! Ahh bless! I'm not gonna criticise the lad he's obviously new to the club and I want to give you a hearty welcome and congratulations on picking the greatest club in the world! Do a bit of homework (obviously not the stuff you've been given to do during half term!) about Liverpool and you will start to see just how special the club and it's supporters are and once again welcome!

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I personally don, t beleive that he needed a punchline and that joke is now on you mate for coming back with that he didn, t think he knew Dossena played for us.
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?? ?? ?? ? Is the joke on the earlier posters who questioned this post and the Eds as well then?? ?

23 Feb 2011 12:55:52
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.

Ive just seen a guy called Jimmy Carter he looked great and im sure i recognised him. He then tried to sell me peanuts and I realised he was the ex president of the USA and not that useless git who used to play for us.

23 Feb 2011 12:53:32
Re; Dossena

No, the original poster was CORRECT. Dossena never played for us, he just occasionally wore the red shirt. .just another one of the 10-plus attempts by Rafa to find a decent full-back. . (i did however rate Arbeloa). G SPOT

23 Feb 2011 12:49:22
I watched that game against Manchester Rovers on the big telly in the day room, and can confirm the move started with Gary Gillespie, pinpoint cross field ball to Harry Kewell who leathered it against the cross stancion of the goal apparatus and Dossena nodded the rebound, 100%.

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

23 Feb 2011 12:50:43
Watched the lyon vs real game and i was very impressed with there left side of cissokho and m.bastos i think a combined fee of £30mil would be a deal for them. Also if you get Lovren in that deal it would be a fantastic additions to our squad ?

23 Feb 2011 12:38:14
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.
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When I first saw this I was waiting for the punchline, now I realise the poor boy is serious and genuinely has no idea that Dossena played for us! Ahh bless! I'm not gonna criticise the lad he's obviously new to the club and I want to give you a hearty welcome and congratulations on picking the greatest club in the world! Do a bit of homework (obviously not the stuff you've been given to do during half term!) about Liverpool and you will start to see just how special the club and it's supporters are and once again welcome!

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I personally don, t beleive that he needed a punchline and that joke is now on you mate for coming back with that he didn, t think he knew Dossena played for us.

23 Feb 2011 12:40:19
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.
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When I first saw this I was waiting for the punchline, now I realise the poor boy is serious and genuinely has no idea that Dossena played for us! Ahh bless! I'm not gonna criticise the lad he's obviously new to the club and I want to give you a hearty welcome and congratulations on picking the greatest club in the world! Do a bit of homework (obviously not the stuff you've been given to do during half term!) about Liverpool and you will start to see just how special the club and it's supporters are and once again welcome!

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mate, i was only pulling ya leg, i've been a reds fan for many years! ha thanks anyways tho! lol

23 Feb 2011 12:10:07
23 Feb 2011 00:46:18
I've been pretty fortunate with my daughter in that respect MR EM. While other 8 year old girls have Mily Cyrus, The Jonas brothers etc, as screen savers on their mobiles, she has a black and white picture of Shankly on hers. Even at 8 years of age she understands the ethos, that is required to be an LFC fan.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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My eldest daughter is also 8 but unfortunately no matter how hard i try she has no interest in football, although i think i had a break through at the weekend, she came home with a build-a-bear wearing the LFC outfit, so my fingers are crossed that i am finaly making a break through!

MR EM

fair play to both of you for bringing your children up in a manner that will teach them respect and what loyalty means, i myself have a 3 year old son and we live 10 minutes from old toilet but when asked which football team are the best my son in the middle of Stretford said "Liverpool" - now that's my boy! !

bigg2966

23 Feb 2011 11:56:23
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.
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When I first saw this I was waiting for the punchline, now I realise the poor boy is serious and genuinely has no idea that Dossena played for us! Ahh bless! I'm not gonna criticise the lad he's obviously new to the club and I want to give you a hearty welcome and congratulations on picking the greatest club in the world! Do a bit of homework (obviously not the stuff you've been given to do during half term!) about Liverpool and you will start to see just how special the club and it's supporters are and once again welcome!

23 Feb 2011 11:52:43
Martin Skrtel for Simon Kjaer anyone? swap deal

23 Feb 2011 10:50:26
Don't want to get too deep into Everton on this site but if Rodwell iis better than Fellaini why is he on the bench for most games whereas Fellaini is first choice in their midfield?
Granted Rodwell is three years younger but Fellaini is only just 23 himself and is already a complete midfield player.
Back to Lucas. Put him up for sale at £10 million and there wouldn't be any takers. Put Fellaini up for sale at £20 million and there would be a queue.
Maybe its you who should have your head tested!

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Fellaini is first-choice because he's a hoofer and kicks people off the park. Rodwell is a tidier, more technical player and tries to pass the ball about. Sadly, Gollum doesn't like this and prefers to play the 'Fro.
Fellaini wouldn't get in a Champions League team, or any good team for that matter. If I could have any Everton player it'd be Baines, then Rodwell. Fellaini would be further down the list with his mediocre mates like Osman and Howard.

Martin

23 Feb 2011 10:39:11
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.
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We sold him to Napoli cause he wasnt good enough but I have a feeling you already knew that.

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He did not play for us you numpty! Check out wikipedia if you must!
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Ok, so you started following us yesterday is it? Put Manchester United 1 - Liverpool 4 in google and see who scored the last goal. And about wikipedia, it can be changed by anyone. I can say that Dossena played cricket for Essex and it will be on there until someone chenges it.

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No, i have been a liverpool supporter all my life and i have typed that in and the person who scored the goal was Ryan Babel. Don't try fooling me.

{editor: I hope your pulling our legs. Babel scored at the Anfield fixture when it was 2-1 Liverpool. When we won 4-1 Ronaldo scored a pen, then Torres, Gerrard (pen), Aurelio and Dossena. He also scored earlier in the week against Real Madrid at Anfield. You must have been sleeping through 2008-2010.}

23 Feb 2011 10:39:38
22 Feb 2011 18:38:46
{Editor's Note: Rumour has it that Liverpool may just be taking a little look at a defensive midfielder in Claudemir tonight.}

am I right in thinking that he plays for copenhagen?

{Editor's Note: Yes you are - he has been turned from a general purpose midfielder in to a defensive midfielder. I am not sure how he will be used this evening.}

how good is he and what would he be worth? {ed's note - how good is he? That is an impossible question to answer, why don't you watch and see for yourself whether you like what you see or not?}

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He's this good! come on guys how can anyone answer that question?

The reds are ;klug odsjdg tk good, makes about as much sence as the question

23 Feb 2011 10:41:58
To the muppet who thinks Dossena never played for Liverpool, , dude go support another team please you clearly have no clue about the mighty reds. .
Jones101

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I have been a reds supporter for over 50 years and i know he never played for us "dude". Go back to school.

{editor: You must be joking, 08-10 he was a Liverpool player.}

23 Feb 2011 10:45:33
ED DO YOU THINK WE WILL SIGN CHARLIE ADAM IN THE SUMMER?

{Editor's Note: Possibly. It depends on a number of things - who the manager is, what price Blackpool want for him, if Liverpool can find a use for him, if he wants to move etc.}

23 Feb 2011 02:45:38
My point is the lad at the other end of the line could have just said sorry we don't do that which I know a lot of clubs do, he could not have cared. The ethos of Liverpool is no-one is bigger than the club. Liverpool is a family and we care for one another when you join this family. Through out the club everyone is respected and loved. No club understands how important fans are more than L.F.C. as there would be no club with out the fans. The actions by everyone at the club in this instance show what Liverpool think of our great supporters. Now Laurel and Hardy have gone and the old guard are back we are getting back to what made this club so respected and admired throughout the world.

This my friends is why Liverpool will be back on top sooner rather than later.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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Manchester United would do the same and have done.

23 Feb 2011 04:23:03
23 Feb 2011 00:23:41
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.
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We sold him to Napoli cause he wasnt good enough but I have a feeling you already knew that.

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He did not play for us you numpty! Check out wikipedia if you must!
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Ok, so you started following us yesterday is it? Put Manchester United 1 - Liverpool 4 in google and see who scored the last goal. And about wikipedia, it can be changed by anyone. I can say that Dossena played cricket for Essex and it will be on there until someone chenges it.

23 Feb 2011 06:39:41
Morning ED

Have you heard anymore on the rumour about Kyriakous Popadopolous defender for Shalke 04 we were allegedly linked with in Jan. I think he would be a good addition to add competition in the squad, Champs league experience, pace , good at reading the game , full international, only 17/ 18 yrs of age, Deffo one for the future could be long term cb pairing him and Wilson.Price around 6 mill

Summer additions to the squad
Marveux (injury clearing up dependant)
Turan (12 mill)
Marin (12 mill)
Popadopolous (6 mill)
Taiwo (6 mill? ? )
Midfielder (estimate 12 to 15 mill)
Striker 10 mill

rough spend £ 60 mill

Out
Deggen (free)
Insua (3 Mill) GREECE
Aquilani (12 mill) ITALY
Skrtel (6 Mill) GERMANY
Ngog (3 mill)? ?? ? ?
Rodriguez (3.5 mill) SPAIN
Cole (5 mill) ENGLAND
Poulsen 2 mill ( DANISH LEAGUE)
Konchesky 2.5 mill (JUPITER OR MARS, will be as welcome back as a fart in a space suit)

Recoup £35 to 37 mill mill

Total spend £ 20 to 25 mill (possible)

your thoughts please ED

REDFORLIFE

{editor: There are too many changes there mate, this would not happen.}

23 Feb 2011 07:19:19
To the muppet who thinks Dossena never played for Liverpool, , dude go support another team please you clearly have no clue about the mighty reds. .
Jones101

23 Feb 2011 07:20:19
Liverpool season 2011-2012

in summer
Marveaux free
Coentrao 19ml.
Kjaer 10ml.
Lavezzi 20ml.
Mexes free

out summer
soto 5ml.
poulsen 3ml.
degen 2ml.
Konkckesky 2ml.
El Zhar 1ml.
Jovanovic 3-4ml.

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*You have 12 players in your 2nd team lad

23 Feb 2011 07:21:34
Some posters are constantly putting forward the argument that the Lucas critics are wrong just because KK and Dunga think he is good enough. I'm afraid this argument doesn't really hold water. KK tried to buy a replacement for Lucas at his first opportunity and Dunga believes Brazil should play with a defensive midfielder (mainly because that was his own position) and I'll think you may struggle to find too many Brazilian defensive midfielders. Therefore both managers are playing him more through necessity than desire. I agree that if he continues to improve he may get there but at the moment he isn't near good enough if we want to move forwards
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No kenny was looking to build a squad. You know like redknapp, wenger and mourinho do. You can't just have one central midfielder. And remember Charlie Adam has one problem. .he doesn't helP out defensively so they could both play seeing stevie g gets injured quite often. As for dunga that argument doesn't hold at all. .denilson, melo,
Anderson and even michel Bastos can play mdf. Do you Agree ed? {ed's note - it is a ridiculous argument, clearly Lucas is highly rated, clearly he is playing well, that should be the end of it.}
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What utter rubbish! If you really believe that KK was gonna buy Adam and then either keep him as a squad player or play him alongside Lucas at the expense of Gerrard or Meireles then you are a mug! The Dunga argument does hold water as your list or other Brazilian DM is very uninspiring. Towards the end of Benitez reign EVEN HE tried to replace Lucas, the first thing Hodgson did was try and replace Lucas and in his very first window KK tried to replace Lucas. If that makes him highly rated it seems a funny way to show it

23 Feb 2011 08:16:09
22 Feb 2011 18:41:13
Why do people on here keep mentioning Everton players like Baines and Rodwell as targets. It just won't happen. It is as likely as any of our players moving to United.
If by some miracle we were given the opportunity to buy anyone from Everton I would take Fellaini. Better than Rodwell will ever be and twice the player that Lucas is.
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You need your head tested mate if you think Fellaini is better than Rodwell!

The Irish Rover

Don't want to get too deep into Everton on this site but if Rodwell iis better than Fellaini why is he on the bench for most games whereas Fellaini is first choice in their midfield?
Granted Rodwell is three years younger but Fellaini is only just 23 himself and is already a complete midfield player.
Back to Lucas. Put him up for sale at £10 million and there wouldn't be any takers. Put Fellaini up for sale at £20 million and there would be a queue.
Maybe its you who should have your head tested!

Harry J

23 Feb 2011 08:30:39
Heard a rumour from a massive Everton fan that LFC are watching Rodwell! Can't believe it personally but would love it if LFC got him - views please Ed. {ed's note - excellent young player with the potential to have a great future in the game.}

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Agree with it.

Why look outside the city when you have an outstanding one in the City. . . . .

23 Feb 2011 08:43:39
ED
Do you think Liverpool could put in a bid for Blackpool's Matt Phillips, he's a winger and he's only 19 years old

YNWA

{editor: Sorry I have never seen him play.}

23 Feb 2011 01:52:33
Nice post blair BelfastRed

23 Feb 2011 00:46:18
I've been pretty fortunate with my daughter in that respect MR EM. While other 8 year old girls have Mily Cyrus, The Jonas brothers etc, as screen savers on their mobiles, she has a black and white picture of Shankly on hers. Even at 8 years of age she understands the ethos, that is required to be an LFC fan.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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My eldest daughter is also 8 but unfortunately no matter how hard i try she has no interest in football, although i think i had a break through at the weekend, she came home with a build-a-bear wearing the LFC outfit, so my fingers are crossed that i am finaly making a break through!

MR EM

23 Feb 2011 00:34:28
Ed, your thoughts on taiwo from his ability to our chances of signing him. I just thought this is a player comolli would follow having played in france and will be on a free

23 Feb 2011 00:27:24
Blair Mayne, Thank you for that story, i have been trying for so long to explain to my wife and children about why Liverpool and KK is so special and unlike any other club, after the misses stopped crying she told me she now understands.

MR EM
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I've been pretty fortunate with my daughter in that respect MR EM. While other 8 year old girls have Mily Cyrus, The Jonas brothers etc, as screen savers on their mobiles, she has a black and white picture of Shankly on hers. Even at 8 years of age she understands the ethos, that is required to be an LFC fan.

Blair Mayne YNWA

23 Feb 2011 00:29:45
5 million for aqua man what a joke if he is sold sell him for 12 to 15 million if not bring him back now what you think ed

{Editor's Note: This is old news and was dealt with around the weekend - I explained everything then.}

23 Feb 2011 00:13:09
Ok can I get this straight ed, do we click believable if we believe the person who wrote the comment or if we agree with your comment on that comment?
Olly

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thank the lord someone has finally asked that!

{Editor's Note: My advice is to press Believable - wait two minutes - refresh the screen - then press Unbelievable. I hope that resolves the matter for you.}

23 Feb 2011 00:23:41
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.
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He did not play for us you numpty! Check out wikipedia if you must!

23 Feb 2011 00:03:12
Blair Mayne, Thank you for that story, i have been trying for so long to explain to my wife and children about why Liverpool and KK is so special and unlike any other club, after the misses stopped crying she told me she now understands.

MR EM

23 Feb 2011 00:07:58
Just seen that article myself blair, amazing ey!

Stu.