Liverpool Banter Archive July 23 2015

 

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23 Jul 2015 18:59:15
Ed002
Could you give an update or a sort of summary om outgoings. I ask because with our squad so bloated there may be an unexpected department which us fans are not expecting

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool would like to remove the likes of Lambert, Borini and Balotelli. Enrique maybe. Sakho wants out. Markovic and Ilori have been priced out of a move. The others (Sterling. Gerrard, Jones et a;) have gone.}

23 Jul 2015 23:27:49
Sakho isn't going anywhere

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23 Jul 2015 23:58:27
Sakho wants out?

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24 Jul 2015 06:13:03
Didn't couple of days ago eds said he would be offered a new deal? What's going on at the club?

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{Ed001's Note - he has asked to leave.}

23 Jul 2015 23:33:36
Have we put such big prices on the likes of marko and ilori because we would rather not sell but it someone offers silly money we will?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

23 Jul 2015 18:26:32
Could FIFA, UEFA or FA's legally remove agents from football? I am not saying all agents are bad people but some of them have questionable morals. I read that Robbie Fowler's agent advised him to invest in property and on more than occasion advised him against damaging his career. Agents are in a position that determine all aspects of their clients lives but only appear to be after a quick profit. Do agents have a regulatory authority that monitors them?

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{Ed002's Note - Footballers are traditionally particularly stupid and need the advice of others. Younger layer do not and I have explained before there is a push from certain quarters to address that.}

24 Jul 2015 00:06:59
Agree with ed002, footballers are uneducated in the main and they are negotiating multi million pound contracts.
They definitely need agents.

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23 Jul 2015 22:11:53
Why does sakho want to leave? Are the club actively trying to sell him or would they preferred he stayed? If you could take out that mistake every game away from him, he could be superb. As it is he scares the crap out me every game. Saying that I hope he stays.

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24 Jul 2015 04:48:59
we have to sell you know. we have 26 first team players not including the youth and likes of balo borini lambert and enrique. we can select 25 that has to have two keepers so some players need to be sold. i think LFC are keep to move sakho markovic lucas and illori. while sakho will fetch a fair price , the other three might not fetch liverpools evaluation of them so i expect sakho to leave. we have ample cover for sakho too. maybe lucas too but i see markovic and sakho moving this summer along with balo borini and lambert.
its not about why he has to leave , Liverpool just have to sell and recoup some money and trim their squad. it just cannot be helped

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23 Jul 2015 22:06:01
Read somewhere that Digne can also play left wing. Would be a good deal for 7 million if true. Provides competition to both Markovic and Moreno. Plus he still young like Markovic and Moreno so has a sell on fee.

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23 Jul 2015 21:46:33
It's sad to see the striker at our club with the most ability close to leaving because he has the worst attitude.

Appreciate Balotelli cannot play as a sole striker and Rogers has not used his to the best of his capability but his lack of effort at times has been very disappointing.

Will the penny ever drop . Doubt it and he will have loads of regrets of what might have been when he's older.

Shame

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{Ed001's Note - do you really think he has that much ability? I am not convinced he is all that good when I watch him. He could have been, but he never worked at his game.}

23 Jul 2015 22:23:40
If you have augbility BUT have no wok ethic, you are a waste of talent, just like Balo is on his way to being

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23 Jul 2015 22:25:04
Benteke is looking to leave already?

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23 Jul 2015 22:37:10
For me Balotelli has the ability to get to the level of an Ibrahimovic but his total lack of application is incredible.

If he could look at Henderson for example in someone who has decent ability but a work rate that is top class.

Rino Gattuso was another when at Rangers he had nowhere near the same natural ability of Gazza , Barry Ferguson or Charlie Miller but won all the major trophies including the World Cup.

Amazing how your attitude can get you to the top or hold you back.

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24 Jul 2015 00:10:25
Why is it sad?
He's getting paid tens possibly hundreds of thousand pounds a week and he can't apply himself better?

He's literally stealing a wage from the fans.
Ciao Mario.

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24 Jul 2015 02:09:25
For me, as a complete outsider and never having met the lad, he had bags of potential but no self discipline. He obviously likes the attention but let's it control him rather than the other way around. Another in the line of 'What if' and 'Could have' I'm afraid

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23 Jul 2015 20:54:01
On a positive note, love the signings of Milner, Clyne, Firmino and Benteke.

However I'm worried that the same players at at CB and GK may continue to ship goals as badly as we did last season. Very very poor defending last season and poor GK for the most part so really wondering what's going to happen in our goals against figures.

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23 Jul 2015 21:23:35
As has been said a lot of this will have been put down to prior coaching, wether or not with the new coaches will improve this only time will tell

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23 Jul 2015 21:29:58
We ll score more than we concede, we have bought 4 attacking players to do the job.

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23 Jul 2015 21:48:06
Unfortunately for us I think BR is working on the basis of the same logic as European Glory.

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23 Jul 2015 22:24:43
Which has won us nothing and arguably cost us the PL in 2014.

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23 Jul 2015 22:29:56
I think the key will actually be in midfield and FB - for 2 seasons now we've lacked cover for the defence and poor defence out wide, but I hope with a 4-3-3, and Lucas at DM and Clyne at RB, and Hendo/Milner with energy to track runners from midfield, we'll have a far better time of it. A proper structure may give the CB's a chance to build confidence rather than being shot to pieces.

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23 Jul 2015 23:04:27
I hope we stick to the philosophy of scoring more than we concede. It's the only way to win games

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24 Jul 2015 02:58:37
No it is not, Ron and you know it. You do know that you can score goals and keep clean sheets at the same time or is your BFF not able to walk and chew gum at the same time?

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24 Jul 2015 09:47:00
I'm sorry but I totally disagree with the comment about our attacking minded 'score more than we concede' attitude losing us the PL title in 2014. If anything it was the sole reason we did that well, we had amazing attacking talent and had we focused on being defensive we would have ended just outside of the top 4 like normal.

It looks like another exciting season is ahead, where (unlike last season) we can be dangerous going forward with Coutinho, Firmino, Benteke etc.

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23 Jul 2015 20:37:40
Hello ed can you tell me where Sean o Driscoll is I heard him and hendo had a bust up

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{Ed001's Note - I really doubt that, O'Driscoll and Hendo are two of the most likeable people you will ever meet.}

23 Jul 2015 20:53:41
Maybe at home, but Hendo looks like he's ready to blow when he's playing footy.

He's gets so into the game even if it's a stupid friendly. Love him.

Can imagine him getting worked up in training aswel.

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23 Jul 2015 21:02:43
To be fair S OD hasn't been seen in any of the tour photos for a while. Not saying he's had a bust up with Hendo but bit odd. Is he maybe back at Melwood with the new guys, Phil etc? or maybe scouting Stoke and the other teams we play in the first few weeks?

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23 Jul 2015 21:22:39
He's not one for the limelight.
He'll be working in the background IMO.

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23 Jul 2015 22:00:38
Not attending training or the matches is definitely working in the background Ron!

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23 Jul 2015 23:05:51
Just because he's not in front of the camera doesn't mean he's not attending.

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23 Jul 2015 23:50:30
He hasn't been at training and he's not on the bench at matches. Is he hiding under the bench or in a Gatorade cooler box Ron?

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24 Jul 2015 01:07:14
Just because I am not in work doesn't mean I'm not working.

Natural

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23 Jul 2015 19:44:09
Crane lift for new stand cancelled today because of high winds . Benteke going to do the lift tomorrow after training ???

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23 Jul 2015 18:24:56
Actually quite pleased we have Stoke first game. Big test straight up and the boys will be up for some pay back. 15 days and counting.

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23 Jul 2015 19:53:55
It's the perfect start, lay some ghosts to rest, massive confidence boost if we win.
Milner, Benteke and Firmino buzzing
Stoke taking it easy after last match.

Going to be a storming start for the reds.

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23 Jul 2015 23:19:54
More than half the team that played Stoke last year probably won't even be on the pitch.

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23 Jul 2015 18:17:29
Like everyone else I am slightly concerned whether Benteke will suit our style of play.

However cast your minds back 12months to the Ballotelli signing - there was a player clearly not suitable for LFC in style, commitment or character.

I am far more enthusiastic about Benteke.
If we can find a system that brings the best out of him then we have got a helluva player on our hands!

The lad has a bit of everything about him, surely I'm not the only one who had panic attacks when I saw him on the opposition timesheet?

YNWA

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23 Jul 2015 19:52:50
I'm starting to warming to the idea of having Benteke. With the creative players behind him creating chances I think he could get 15+ league goals next season for us.

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23 Jul 2015 19:55:40
What is it about him you don't think will fit?

He has quick feet, plenty of pace and is a finisher.
I actually think he has similar attributes to Sturridge.
We just need to keep him focused.

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23 Jul 2015 20:11:07
Just checked out the training pictures with the lads still in Liverpool. Amazing we have 4 starters still back at melwood.

Also didn't know balotelli knew how to smile.

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23 Jul 2015 20:50:38
I'll be honest I'm not 100% convinced about him, more so the Managers ability to use the squad how he should,,, however back to the point. He will add something extra in the box for crosses and corners (Note - check out some of the last games he played and defending is not his forte e on corners as a team we have to defend - he ball watches / loses marker).

Also on the games against us some of the direct running, back heels while drawing defenders away with him etc. will allow a lot of assists (if the AM's score from them).

He's hoping we get a player that realises what he can do for us (and himself) - if we do he will be a v good signing

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23 Jul 2015 22:34:46
What I'm hopeful of is we set up with a more consistent team structure and selection now we have the players in place and a proper set of strikers to choose from. Last year was a shambles in terms of selection and strategy.

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23 Jul 2015 17:57:38
Eds is that are business done for the summer cheers YNWA

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{Ed001's Note - no we are selling players.}

23 Jul 2015 17:07:06
Commoli has been quoted talking about how much we've spent this year and is concerned the players won't gel. Have to appreciate the irony eh lads

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23 Jul 2015 17:41:28
Is he still out of work?

Or did he get a new job off the back of all the great work he did at Tottenham & Liverpool?

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23 Jul 2015 18:37:52
Thought exactly the same myself mate

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23 Jul 2015 20:43:13
I`m sure his "stellar" record at LFC, Spurs and Saint Etienne as a DOF, stands him in good stead to make such a well-informed judgement on signing players.

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23 Jul 2015 20:51:32
Probably disappointed that we didn't use any of the agents he used for the players we signed when he was with us!

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23 Jul 2015 21:24:12
I don't have much respect for the man but I can't argue with him. Getting so many players to gel will be tough.

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23 Jul 2015 22:39:26
Might be tough to integrate but this year's signings have been miles better than last, addressing very specific needs. senior midfield general to replace Gerard? check. RB to replace GJ? check. Strikers to replace Balo/Borini/Lambert? Check.

Firmino was a bit of a luxury but can play wing and also play second striker so v.useful (and everyone needs a bit of luxury now and again!) Coutinho and Firmino together. yes pls!

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23 Jul 2015 16:42:26
Afternoon Ed 02,

How's my wife?

I know this was a while ago now but was after a nod in the right direction.

Thank you for the electric toilet recommendation, it has really helped with the flushing of all the nasty little bits we pick up and store without realising.

My problem is that I'm now looking to purchase a full unit but everywhere I look I can only find wax versions or dl.

I would appreciate any guidance as I have been looking a while now with no joy.

Thanks in advance.

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23 Jul 2015 22:06:39
Strange!

Been looking for a long time and today after posting about it my lovely wife has found one on Amazon. I Swear I looked a while ago and nothing.

Result!

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23 Jul 2015 18:38:44
I can send payment in bitcoins if the price is right

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23 Jul 2015 16:22:51
Was just youtubing firmino and benteke, one link lead to another and I ended up watching all the goals from the 2013/14 season. God I miss suarez, I forget how good he was at times. I believe if we had one of milner or lallana we would have won that year, couldn't cope with our last resort being Aspas or moses, maybe even one of markovic, borini or lambert. A full back would have been nice too thinking back haha

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23 Jul 2015 15:41:12
Any word on Jerome Sinclair signing a new contract or do you think he will leave? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - They have been unable to agree a contract. I rather suspect that a number of the younger players will be looking to move on over the next year or so.}

23 Jul 2015 17:49:20
Not to fussed to be honest.

If they don't want to fight for there place then I don't want them.

Ings character got questioned on here because hr would take penalties last year.

He could of gone pretty much anywhere in the prem and of been guaranteed game time, yet he come to a club who he know will invest year on year on new players and still came knowing he will have to fight. That's character.

A snotty nosed 18 year old doesn't want competition? Doesn't want to have to get on that training field and batter his way into contention ?

He is currently on the sane path as Raheem, he got some game time at the end of the season, has been offered a new deal but wants to run away.

Theres the door mate.

For every u21 now there is another 20 u8's just signed. I know a lad by my work who just left united boys to cone to Liverpool and he's a good player- only 10 mind.

SinclaIr should sign and go get a loan and prove himself.

I mean if he wants to leave because he doesn't believe he will get a chance then he can rule out moving anywhere in the prem because there not going into a season with ab 18 yol as there starting forward.

Where's he going to go league 1 ? Work his way up. If that's the case then I wish him every success.

But why leave west brom tk come to Liverpool? He must of known it would be abit easier breaking in there than here.

I believe he is after more money and his agent already has somewere else lined up.

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{Ed001's Note - Ings dropped down the leagues for game time first, just like Sinclair is wanting to do, but you criticise one and laud the other. Amazing. People see what they want to see I guess.}

23 Jul 2015 19:09:14
Because of the amount of players we have bought in Ed?

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{Ed001's Note - yes. They have all found their route into the team blocked by new arrivals.}

23 Jul 2015 20:18:54
Hard to fight for your place when you're forgotten in the stands or on a random loan.

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23 Jul 2015 20:20:22
Sorry ed but remind me are we talking about the same Danny ings who was released by Southampton to then join Bournemouth who were in league one/two to later join Burnley who were then in the CHAMPIONSHIP, and now move to Liverpool who are in the PREMIERSHIP.

Your the one who violently assaulted his character because he wouldn't take penalties but wouldn't credit him for having the nuts to take on the mammoth that is Liverpool football club when he would of had properly more game time somewhere else!

And yet you haven't bashed Sinclairs character for not wanting to stay and fight for his place. What does he want guaranteed game time lol you earn what you get in this life

Some people really do see what they wanna see don't they.

I absolutely 100% guarantee its down to money and he will have somewhere else lined up, my bets Southampton, Tottenham or Newcastle.

All these kids & parents know the size of the club and the spending power and also the rate of top clubs playing academy players which is ridiculously low. Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and untied how many academy products in there Teams.

Why don't they put there kids in academy's like tranmeres etc.

Why also leave somewhere like west Bromwich to move to us. When you kbow thete is about atleast a 50% better chance to get a shot thete than here.
Money maybe??

It's the same as use always say if it was really all about champions league football why not move to Celtic.

Money money money.

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{Ed001's Note - are you really going to miss the point that Saints did offer Ings a reduced contract, but with no guarantee of playing time, so at that age he chose to leave, to get guaranteed football. Which is what Sinclair is after. Oh or perhaps it is that Ings chose Bournemouth for the money, then Burnley for more money, then us for even more money, while Sinclair is turning down more money to go elsewhere, where he won't earn as much! You really have no clue. Ings is now a senior pro, who bottled penalties and taking a low number so he could hide, while picking up a huge paycheque and a monster signing bonus. Oh and he joined us because he was guaranteed games by the manager, so hardly him having the balls to fight for a place is it? Whereas Sinclair is a young lad starting out his career and has been told he has been replaced and will have to go on loan to get games. Sorry if I miss the similarity but you really are talking utter bollox like a typical biased fan who slags off any player who wants to leave us, while missing the fact that Ings acted like a proper blurt trying to get out of Burnley in January to join us, while Sinclair has done nothing of the sort, just turned down a new contract. You are just making yourself look clueless, as you have no idea about either lad, nor what goes on and then you try and argue a completely ignorant view.}

23 Jul 2015 20:53:13
Comparing Raheem to Sinclair, who just wants a fair crack like Raheem was given is an insult and does a huge disservice to the poor boy. If we had the money we had now when BR arrived, I highly doubt Raheem and the other young ones like Suso, Wisdom and the like would have seen the pitch that year. Why? because that`s what is happening now. So you`re slating a poor boy who just wants a chance to have a career whether here or elsewhere and you slate him for it because a naive and poorly advised child did something akin to that BUT not similar in the slightest? He`s after money? And how do you know that? because you asked and he told you, right? Your post is pathetic to its core. You clearly know NOTHING about the sacrifices required to chase a dream. Your comment is the reason why IMO, youth players should stay away from our youth setup or lack thereof. Useless comment!

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23 Jul 2015 20:54:21
I feel for you Eds sometimes.

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23 Jul 2015 21:17:13
Danny ings was released by Southampton at the age of 15 in 2008. Hardly end of the rainbow stuff. He didn't leave man United to join Bournemouth did he.

He also didn't leave bournmouth and push a move through when Fulham came in for him and there was a lot interest there from other teams.

Did Sinclair really count as player this season to be replaced. How many professional games has he had?? Ibe went on and proved himself didn't he?

Why did he join us from West Bromwich if it wasn't for money?

I am sorry though I didn't realise Sinclair had been asked to go on loan but refused and asked to leave. Character there ed!

And I completely forgot about ings BBC interview and stating he wouldn't sign for burnley for 900.000 grand a week.

Aren't use the same eds who whinged 'oh there's mote to it' 'not sterling's fault' 'itz not for the money' blah blah blah. But ings is just a blurt.

Has ings got it written in his contract that he will get games? If not it means diddly squat doesn't it pal, Brendan could be gone in November. What then? It took nuts to make the move considering if Brendan goes he could be left to rot by the next manager.

And didn't ings just do his moves after he EARNT them? Sinclair doesn't deserve any game time, he's done nothibg.

Ings proved himself in league one, so maybe took the move to Burnley as a step in Quality not Just MONEY, then maybe he took the next move to us for the steo in Quality not just the money? He was on a ffree he was always going to command good money.

He earned where he is, to make the decisions he has. Sinclair is leaving because he isn't going to get game time when he hasn't been and had a full season anywerw so why does he deserve a shot? The club asked him to do something and he has refused.

If he had just come back from a loan At Derby and had performed really well and wasnt being given a shot theb I might just listen to you pal but until then.

"Off the field, Ings has gained a reputation for charitable acts. In November 2014, he launched and funded the Danny Ings Disability Sport Project to provide football coaching to children with disabilities and learning difficulties after being inspired to do so by a young disabled Burnley fan. Key word - funded"

Can see your sheep already commenting above lol

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{Ed001's Note - ah you are just unable to read and make stuff up in your head! Now I understand it. Bournemouth offered him first team football, Fulham would not, which is why he stayed there, yet you are slagging off Sinclair for wanting first team football.

Professional games? Well he came on as sub at the end of the season a few times, then was told this season he wouldn't even get that, but that seems to have escaped your notice with some bizarre inference it is related to Ibe, who has not had 3 first team players brought in to play in the same position as he plays. Talk about another ridiculous comparison to try and make an even more ridiculous point.

Not sure why you are bringing Sterling into it, probably because you are in the wrong so you are trying to twist it round to a completely different argument. Sad tactic but wasted as we can just skip the idiocy of that.

I never said Ings was just a blurt, I said he acted like one, as did Lallana, but I bet you aren't slagging either of those off are you? No because you are one of those embarrassing hypocrites.

Hardly takes 'nuts' to take a millions of pound signing fee knowing that if it goes wrong you will get a move elsewhere but will be set for life does it? You seem to be a very strange individual if you think that is bravery.

So you fail to understand that Sinclair just wants the chance to earn it like Ings did. You really are just making a fool of yourself with your complete inability to understand the stupidity of your argument.

I am not sure what that little piece about his charity work is meant to prove, Collymore does charity work but is still a piece of dirt. I can name you many others, Adebayor for instance, that are complete pricks but do lots for charity, including charitable foundations. Wilshere is another one. I wonder how much is just purely about getting tax breaks, like the money Elton John and George Michael pay to Battersea Dogs Home? Not that it is relevant to any of this discussion, other than to show how little understanding you have of the discussion.

Oh yes such a clever remark at the end, as it is clear that no one could possibly just agree with me and see what a fool you are making of yourself could they? You really have no idea what you are talking about and yet I am sure you will carry on arguing until I get bored and give up trying to explain it. I know I am wasting my time, you clearly have no insight into anything, your whole argument is nonsensical and based on some bizarre blinkered viewpoint, where it is ok to be a complete arse so long as you do it to move to Liverpool not away from Liverpool.

By the way, could you show me what exactly it is you object to with Sinclair? Has he made any kind of public comments for you to be ready to burn his effigy? Or has he simply turned down a new contract? I am sure once he leaves you will tell us all how crap he was anyway and how we don't need him etc etc.}

23 Jul 2015 22:45:52
I agree that criticism of Sinclair is un warranted and harsh however I think it is equally as harsh calling ings a bottler because he didn't want a low number especially when the only low number available was 8 which I wouldn't want to have following gerrard and besides is there really any need to put any additional pressure on yourself for the sake of a number?

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24 Jul 2015 00:56:21
We will only see about Ings. The fact is he did bottle it at burnley. Now he has purposely chosen a high squad number to "remove the pressure". Make of that what you will.

To my mind a squad number makes no difference at all. If he plays for Liverpool as senior pro then he could wear 9 or 99, the expectation and pressure would be just the same. For him to think otherwise is worrying. However, let's give the lad time and see what happens .

As for Sinclair I don't think anybody should have a bad word to say about the kid. If he wants to play football, and the club aren't going to give it to him, then we should all wish the lad well.

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23 Jul 2015 22:46:44
No ed you will end this conversation when you can't prove yourself right not when your bored. Lol

Let me break my points down for you since you have tried to make a tit out of me instead of properly talking about them.

I brought the Fulham bid in because you were alluding to all his moves being money orientated rather than for footballing reasons, so I was pointing out that if it was for money wouldn't he have moved to Fulham.

I mentioned sterling because you have so far called ings actions a blurt, made out he is a mercenary and said he has no character or not enough to be at a top team. Yet you wouldn't say one word about what sterling was doing, and blamed everyine else apart from him. Hypocrisy??

Sorry but anything above 20k a week and a couple of mil in signing bonus sets you up for life and I'm sure he had offers around that from lower end teams in the premier and abroad. It took courage to move to Liverpool no matter what way you put it. He hasn't come just for the money, that's for sure. He wouldn't of tried so hard to get a move in Jan if it was for money because he would of been better of waiting till the end of the season because he was going to get a better pay day. We could of easily agreed a fee in jan and he wouldn't of had the luxury of being a free agent.

Sorry ed but why not sign, go and do your year loan and then see what happens next year? If not go for your move then? What the difference in proving yourself at Brighton whilst a Liverpool player to doing it there but not being a Liverpool player. Isn't he not wanting to go and prove himself by refusing to go on loan and wanting a guarentee of game time here with having about 5 games all in all of "EARNT" experience behind him! Are you really so deluded that you can't see that?

You go on and on and on and on about how bad the fans are about slagging off ex players and current players, yet you haven't had one good thing to say about ings who is our current player. You said he did everything for money before and he's now set for life so I just pointed out that he does some good with it unlike some even including captain fantastic (oh sorry ed but yes that was a dig at an ex player. Sue me) I love how you only mention people who do it for the wrong reasons to take anything away from it. There are hundreds of people who do it for good reasons (sports stars, celebrities and the rest) why don't you mention some of them??

No you have everyone believing that you are always 100% right about everything. It's cringeworthy sometimes [ed001 - director of football would be good] [everyone - if we don't get a director of football in soon fsg need to f**kin go] whatever the subject, player or sandwich ideas everyine agrees with you. It must do your heads in.

To me my problem is an 18 year old boy has been offered a professional probably good contract offer from one of the biggest clubs in world football and been asked to go out on loan to prove himself and refused point blank because get this everyine who bother reading stuff that isn't red he thinks he deserves to be starting up front for Liverpool without having a loan but then and this is the cherry on the cake 'he wants to leave to prove himself?' why not just sign, go on loan and see What happens next year and if he's not in contention, he Can put in a transfer request and move on.

And it's not for money. The argument doesn't make sense. He can have a loan and prove himself but he doesn't want to, he wants to leave and prove himself? Confusing to say the least.

And no ed not on your nelly (to quote del boy) I don't know what I think of Sinclair personally he looks like he has all the tools to succeed but does it go like costa or ballo, is going to achieve what he's capable of. I hope so.

What I'm not happy about is the club the club getting subtly blamed for si clair wanting to leave and potentially others in the future, when this is down to him. He has an offer there, time on his side and the option to go get a loan and really prove himself and he himself doesn't want to.

It's for money, and I guarentee he will be off to Tottenham, Southampton or a Newcastle.

I don't think it is fair either to act like we're wrong for criticising players when they leave and also alluding to when we don't rate players

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23 Jul 2015 15:24:42
Ref: Sterling Transfer

I see this reported somewhere;

"Initial £35.2 million to Liverpool and £8.8 million to QPR plus £6.5Million if city win the champions league"

1. Is this type of add on clause likely?

2. If it is do City have to win it in Raheem's lifetime?

If you wish, rate both questions between 1 and 1 please (with 1 being highly hilarious and 1 being totally absurb).

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{Ed002's Note - There are clauses taking the fee from £44M to £49M in the same way as there are clauses taking Firmino's transfer up to an even more ridiculous figure. £8.8M goes to QPR and 20% of any future payments go to QPR. £2.2M goes to Sterling and 5% of any future payments go to Sterling.}

23 Jul 2015 16:16:49
Ed could you pretty please with a cherry on top tell us the current fee for firmino and what it could reach with clauses? Pretty please

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{Ed002's Note - He is costing Liverpool:

(a) Transfer fee - €41M with the potential to rise to €50M.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the EPL.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent £40M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years leading to this window).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (sometimes waived).

23 Jul 2015 16:42:36
Thankyou darling x

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23 Jul 2015 17:09:07
40 million on agents!! that is a serious amount of money. Thanks for explaining that Ed002 I hope you don't get too much abuse because of it. Hopefully people will start to realise that if you get 20mill for a player and spend 20mill on another player that the two transactions don't cancle each other out.

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23 Jul 2015 18:05:11
I didn't know players could be vat registered, those supercars must drink a lot of diesel! :-)

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23 Jul 2015 20:00:31
Oh my days, did we really pay 50 million Euros for him?!

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23 Jul 2015 20:21:46
How come you used euros for the figure ed?

Isn't it about £28 mil rising to £35mil??

40/50 makes it seem a lot more. Weird.

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24 Jul 2015 01:03:27
If a payment is structured over a few years, Is it fixed at the exchange rate at the time the deal is signed? or does it fluctuate?

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23 Jul 2015 14:42:55
Apparently from a reliable source, Liverpool are making fresh attempts to try and bring Reus to Anfield. Sources close to the player's direct representative Volker Struth claim that he is heading talks with Ayre but that he is leaking Liverpool's interest to the media to keep other clubs on their toes and in particular Real Madrid

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23 Jul 2015 15:12:50
The Ed`s have said it won`t happen so don`t know why people keep asking and believing lazy journos

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23 Jul 2015 13:16:09
Hi all, I'm after some opinions.

Do you think Benteke will sort everything out? and be a reliable goal scorer, which is exactly what we needed? I hate to be negative but I don't.

I think we've done well overall with the incoming players but Benteke for £32.5m is a but too much for me, we could of got a lot better for that money.

I hope I'm wrong of course, I wish the lad all the best and hope he surprises me.

With Benteke been the 7th signing I keep seeing reports which suggest he was the last? Then I see us looking at this player and that player.

Will we sign another player this summer?

I can't wait for this season, as I say overall I'm chuft with who we brought in, that'd do for me to be fair. but I keep seeing reports on Reus, Pedro etc. I really can't see such players joining us, let's be honest why would they if we can't offer CL football.

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23 Jul 2015 13:33:10
Who' are these players that are a lot better that would have joined us? You even pointed some quality players which would be unlikely to come. He's proven in the EPL so hopefully comes with less risk than bringing a foreign striker in from another league.

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23 Jul 2015 13:49:59
I don't think there is any point discussing this right now. Give him time and then make a judgement. He's scored enough goals with very little service for me to believe he will score goals for Liverpool but we just have to wait and find out.

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23 Jul 2015 14:14:19
I'm not sure Benteke will 'sort it all out' as you say, but he is a huge step in the right direction imo and will score goals.

Along with the other signings I'm confident we can make a move on that top 4 this season.

My only worry is the defensive unit and how they will look to progress from last season and even the one before that. We've seen them perform well in patches but the manager/ coaching staff need to make that more consistent.

Back to Benteke, I think he will justify his transfer fee over time. Similar to Henderson. Without using figures, now Hendo's fee seems fair but when we signed him not so much. Whether that's just down to rise in economy or not is a whole other topic.

Anyway overall I'm pleased with the window we've had as long as we can sell the players needed to make it financially sound, without creating another hole to be fixed in 12 months time.

Welcome all the new staff, players and coaches. Let's get behind the team and go again. Y.N.W.A

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23 Jul 2015 14:38:03
Thing is that BR needed a proven goalscorer, because we all saw what happened last season when we didn´t have one. Problem is that Benteke doesn´t have the ability of a £32M striker. I´m not going to say that he will definitely be a poor player, because I can´t predict such things, I can only compare how AV played and how LFC played, and make a barely qualified guess to how he will turn out.

The main thing that I´m worried about is if he is suited to our style. There has been questions about us being a team that crosses the least in the league, but crosses are worth nothing if they´re not precise. In the last 3 seasons AV created 243 chances via crosses - In contrast, Liverpool created 249 chances via crosses.

There has been a lot of talk about he doesn´t press and that he is lazy, but as far as I know he was told to play in this way. So the reason to why I´m sceptical about this signing is his decision making and timings of his runs. Next season we will probably play with Firmino and Coutinho, both who are excellent at creating through passes, but my question is what are the purpose of this if Benteke can´t time his runs correctly - It´s like eating soup with a fork, it might work but it is far from optimal. I have heard a lot of AV fans complaining about Benteke not making the runs, or he is offside (1,2 offside pr EPL game) - I´m not sure if this is something that can be "coached" away.
I would though like to point out that he has a terrific shot, his aerial presence is quite frightening, and I´m sure that he will create space for the likes of Coutinho and Firmino. The thing is that Ings is the player who would benefit from likes of Coutinho and Firmino, he´s a clever player making the right runs, being a constant nuisance to the opponent defenders, and I might add that he has a better first touch than Benteke.

Again this is not to bash the player, I´m just giving my honest opionion about Benteke, but I really do hope he will succeed at LFC.

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23 Jul 2015 14:52:27
Opinions:

1) We won't sign anymore until at least 3 players are sold.
2) with Coutinho, Firmino and Milner in the team, Benteke will score a lot of goals.

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23 Jul 2015 14:55:09
A couple of offside per game is nothing?? Sturridge is far more than that most games. Doesn't make him a bad player but if you're going to play on the shoulder of the last defender it's inevitable that you will get caught out a few times. i'd say he actually has all the ability of a 32 mil player it's whether we use it to its full effectiveness is the issue. Hopefully some tweaks to our play will see us get the best out of him. Really pleased we have him, at the very least no defence will want to face him- something we didn't have last year.

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23 Jul 2015 15:02:11
Benteke will score goals, maybe not as many as our recently departed Mr Suarez, but maybe he will. I a pleased he has signed, but not so with the price, but I think many would say the same! But he has scored a ratio of a goal every other game in EPL nearly, so he can do it.

Firmino is another signing that I am excited about, I think he could be a very good capture.

The general transfer activity has been positive, however As raised earlier, it's the defence that worries me. I hope the new coaching team will address this.

Overall I am happy with the work done, and we will have to see if any more in comings come with the obvious outgoings needed.

I will support the team and all players, even Balotelli if he plays (hopefully he goes), because they are wearing the shirt of the team I support.

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23 Jul 2015 15:06:36
Personally very pleased with the benteke signing. Providing he avoids any long term injuries I'm backing him to get at least 20 goals

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23 Jul 2015 16:10:09
Benteke ll score and that's something we were poor at last season. It's mad assuming there would be a new system for him to play.

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23 Jul 2015 18:07:45
Thanks for the reply's everyone - good luck to Benteke!

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23 Jul 2015 13:01:34
Congratulations Ed001. never been to Dubai so have no idea what it means to live there. Guess it's very hot. as it is here in Malta. We've had the longest heat wave ever and tonight West Ham play Birkirkara! Unbelievable in this heat. In any case just wanted to ask your opinion on the formation Rodgers is likely to stick to. will it be 433 or 4321?

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{Ed001's Note - thank you and yes it is hot, it was a cold day this week when it was just 37c. Mostly it is mid 40s this time of year. It depends on results as to the formation, I think he seems to be aiming at a two up top system though one striker will drop off when we are not in possession.}

23 Jul 2015 13:46:18
Congrats ed, if he plays two up top what does that mean for the midfield? Would firmino, coutinho, Henderson and Milner be first choice depending on form? Worry it would be a bit light

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23 Jul 2015 14:16:59
Firmino would play as one of the forwards I think Ronald. The one that drops deeper.

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23 Jul 2015 14:53:27
Sorry meant to say when sturridge was fit

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23 Jul 2015 15:08:33
Agree puzzled firmino will play off benteke up top

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23 Jul 2015 16:48:58
I disagree. Firmino and Coutinho will play wide, with Henderson and Milner in the centre along with one of Allen or Lucas holding. This is how Rodgers has been setting up this pre-season, the central role was promised to Milner, which natural leaves no room for either of the Brazilians in the middle.

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23 Jul 2015 17:34:32
I agree AG and I thing ings could get more games than people think.

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23 Jul 2015 19:27:05
I would go even further Den, and say that Ings will flourish playing in that spot. Ings running off Big Ben with Couts and Firmino feeding them ain't too shabby.

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23 Jul 2015 13:02:01
Reus is the new turan I take it 😉

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23 Jul 2015 12:12:59
Benteke to take number 9?

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23 Jul 2015 13:44:15
Where does that drop him off?

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23 Jul 2015 14:10:15
Either town or two dogs.

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23 Jul 2015 18:47:10
I hope it ain't town!
we've got another striker that likes the bright lights a bit to much 😉

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23 Jul 2015 19:18:22
he's built like a brick outhouse,i wouldn't get him through the dooor.

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23 Jul 2015 12:35:09
I heard today that Joe Allen could be heading to Everton this summer. Loan with rights to buy. Also heard that same deal being lined up by west ham for lovren.

One more point i think Mignolet will have an excellent season proving his form of 13/14. I can see Can being very influential in cm helping to plug the gaps in midfield which didn't help our defenders last year.

Firminio and Coutinihio to give defenders nightmares all season long - before Coutinihio moving to Barcelona in the summer of 16. He is defo a Barca style player and will go sooner rather than later(gutted)

Joao Texeira to break into 1st team squad ready for 16/17

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23 Jul 2015 12:55:51
Are You mystic meg? :)

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23 Jul 2015 13:09:03
No, he's mystic biged!

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23 Jul 2015 12:25:25
I heard in the echo we have made an inquiry over Reus! Any truth in this- I know the echo isn't the most reliable source for sports news

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23 Jul 2015 13:11:54
What? Is the echo talking to you now?Beware people who hear voices

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23 Jul 2015 11:05:13
Congratulations of the highest order to Ed001.

I want an invite to the stag do, so long as it's in Dubai.Mind you are stag do's any good in Dubai?

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. I have no idea, but considering the amount of hookers round this area of Dubai, even in broad daylight, I would think it would be a good place to go. Even Ed004 could get laid here. Just one tip for you, when a woman comes up to you and says '100 dirhams for sex', do not make a joke about it. I told her that was very sweet but I think she would be overpaying me with 100 dirhams and I would have considered her offer for much less. She was following me round for ages trying to explain that she was asking me to pay her and not offering to pay me.

Oh and don't ask for directions when no one understands your accent either. It was about 9am, so I assumed the people wandering about would be on their way to work in shops or offices, rather than hookers. So I asked a couple of people for directions, they just looked at me blank then some woman said she would show me the way. So she said follow me and started off walking around the main streets and then turned down a jigger, luckily I spotted the Metro station I was looking for and asked her what on earth she was doing when the station was over there in the opposite direction to the one she was taking me. Apparently she thought I was after a massage with a happy ending.

They are scarily brazen as well, I was talking to a copper yesterday, as I was a little bit lost (which is normal for me, I used to get confused which way to go stepping out the lift to go back to my apartment to my gf's endless amusement) trying to figure out where I was. In the middle of trying to get this copper to figure out what I was saying, rather than him keep saying 'sorry I no speak French' (which is OK as I don't bloody well speak French either!!), some woman just walked up to me and asked me if I wanted sex for 50 dirhams. I even had a woman in a full birka stop me and ask if I wanted sex for money.

Sometimes you just don't know what to say. I just stood absolutely open mouthed with no idea what to say at all to that. It was just funny at first, but now it is getting annoying, I almost miss the blokes that follow you round the gold soukh asking if you want to buy a fake Rolex or t-shirts etc. At least they knew when to leave you alone.}

23 Jul 2015 13:00:19
Ed,You should Have at least haggled the price down- unless you've been to the Comoli school of negotiation.

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23 Jul 2015 13:01:13
How much is 50 dirhams??

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23 Jul 2015 13:10:54
Just under £10.

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23 Jul 2015 12:49:24
Turning this into location location location for a minute. but what is Dubai like Ed, I have Dubai as an option to move to for work but it has never really appealed to me as a place to visit? ta

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{Ed001's Note - it depends on what you want out of life mate. It can be expensive if you get caught up in the lifestyle of eating out and spending all your time shopping like most here seem to do. It is mostly very clean and the free zones offer good earning potential. It is what you make of it really.}

23 Jul 2015 13:19:22
50 dirhams is about £8

I wouldn't advise dubai as a stag do myself. Alcohol is very expensive, you can only drink inside hotels and sports joints (such as yacht clubs). You can end up in prison out there for simply being drunk on the street and be in their holding cells for a week with only 2 drinks of water a day and 1 meal,no toilet paper.

Factor in the no public affection any birds in a pub or club and it gets boring.

Can't say I ever saw what ed001 mentioned with regards to the brazen prostitution as I was in the jumeira lake towers area. I think ed001 lives somewhere different,but there are thai massage places on every corner and flyers everywhere.

Ed have you eve been to a brunch? That was one of the best things I experienced at the atlantis hotel. and such a great atmosphere. I would suggest that as a starting point for any stag do. I might be heading back that way this December. throw it then ed001 :)

P.S congratulations

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{Ed001's Note - bit out of my price range mate, I was in the JLT area but it is far too expensive for me so I am in the Deira area now, Raif to be exact. As for a brunch, no mate, the Atlantis is way out of my budget. We will have to meet up if you are out here mate. Oh and thank you.}

23 Jul 2015 13:58:22
Cheers Ed, suppose could always do a year or so, get what you need then get out. May try and get there next year for a visit and see what it's like. I shall have to give you a heads up if I do for a few pointers. as to where the best massage is ha.

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{Ed001's Note - I hear a lot of people say that, but then they get caught up in the life and never save anything.}

23 Jul 2015 14:31:28
I've travelled a fair bit through work. I'm pretty good with stuff like that, though like you say, some aren't. Some people in Perth in Oz bought huge houses and expensive cars, then got made redundant and lost it all!

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23 Jul 2015 15:59:44
You should come down the road to Abu Dhabi Ed1. Much quieter and easy going and you have Dubai an hour down the road if you want a blow out. Will be down there on Saturday to catch up with some pals.

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23 Jul 2015 11:54:54
does anyone know if its possible to watch the match against felda?

thanks in advance.

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23 Jul 2015 11:31:36
Welcome Christian Benteke, let's see you bully your way into Liverpool legend. I hope you're the new Toshack.

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23 jul 2015 11:11:35
posting after along time.some people are not satisfied at anything.example--if benteke sings for man u.then the posts likes .
1.the only proven stiker avilable in epl but we are not even interested.
2.the perfect replacement for van persie.great signing for red devils.
3.how benteke go to man u?32.5 million for a class stiker like bentene is nothing in this days.
4.benteke and rooney upfront brutal.
5.why benteke come to liverpool?he knows the difference between lvg amd rogers.
6.strong strikes win matches like benteke(man u,costa(chelsea))

now we signs benteke. the posts like.
1.is benteke world class?if thinks so you are a fool.
2.my grand mother is faster than benteke.
3.why man u not interested even they need strikers?answer is benteke is not the for playing for any big club.
4.benteke is not for liverpool playing styles. poor signing.



so my words is love liverpool,love the players.not give bulls statements.benteke i love u because u are a red and i am a red(not from manchester),.,./,./banglared

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23 Jul 2015 11:20:08
Benteke, just a target man? You decide!

Christian Benteke goals and skills video link

P.s Ed007, I'd appreciate you working your tech magic for me please, lol.

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23 Jul 2015 11:33:22
Thanks mate

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23 Jul 2015 12:52:25
I don't normally comment on YouTube vids as they can make anyone look good. But. thanks Simon . having watched that I'm genuinely impressed by him. I think he'll fit right in and do a cracking job for us (just hope he ignores the price tag).

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23 Jul 2015 14:26:31
Shame it's been blocked by the premier league

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23 Jul 2015 11:01:15
Hi Eds

First time poster here. Have been following the site for years and have to say that all of you are doing a fantastic job. Awesome work.

I wanted to know your take on a couple of things.

1. What is your assessment of Firmino ? We did overspend to beat competition. What are the options he brings to the Liverpool side ?

2. With sterling having left,do you feel that pace up front , which was one of the key attributes of the Liverpool sides in the past couple of years may not be available in this years side. Even Sturbridge is out or could be out again during the season.

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{Ed002's Note - (1) He is a decent player but Liverpool spent vastly more on Firmino than was offered (and accepted) from another English side and roughly double what his termination clause was for German sides. They also agreed to very significant performance-based add ons. (2) Liverpool have Ibe if they need that type of player.}

23 Jul 2015 13:19:02
How come one minute were tight as a ducks aspe then the next were paying over the odds for a player ?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has repeatedly spent vast amounts of money and paid over the odds for players - that is what you often need to do if you don't have the money to pay for them. Right now the club will be borrowing against the additional income they will get in two years time.}

23 Jul 2015 14:32:30
Cheers Ed

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23 Jul 2015 10:30:26
I've serious reservations about this season, and to be honest I'm viewing the new season with trepidation more than anything. How Rodgers can not address the problem of the keeper and the woeful defence that's been awful for 2 years is quite frankly staggering! I'm starting to think it's a public resignation, maybe he wanted sacking for his pay off, because a so called football professional should be able to address and identify what our MAJOR problems are, any manager worth his salt builds from the back, not Swiss Tony though, he knows more than any manager past or present # LEGEND.

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23 Jul 2015 11:07:02
I am certainly cautious about the defending, Rodgers has been flippant about this for 3 years, and it needs to be better next season.

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23 Jul 2015 11:07:42
Couldn't agree more Waro.

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23 Jul 2015 11:09:01
I agree with you on the keeper part, defence though? Gomez and clyne are good players. Hopefully one of the new coaches can organise and coach our "uncoachable" defence. He has to find a central partnership that works though, if he starts with skrtle then you can have another "agree" lol

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23 Jul 2015 11:45:59
In fairness, he's bought 2 keepers and 8 defenders in 3 years so he has attempted to build from the back. He's just not bought correctly (evidently). The signings of Manquillo/Lovren and letting go of Agger/Kelly still grinds me.

But its a new season and I feel the squad is shaping up nicely. We could certainly do with a Keeper or DM but if we can move on the players that won't play (Balotelli, Borini, etc.) and can hold on to Lucas, I feel we have a team capable of challenging Top 4.

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23 Jul 2015 11:51:19
I fully accept that a lot of fans have trepidation over next season because of a lack of faith in Rodgers but accusing him of deliberately sabotaging a team to get a pay off is a bit much.

Liverpool don't have enough money to fix everything that needs fixing so they identified where they could spend their money most efficiently to make the biggest gains. They obviously think that's up front and not defence. If the season goes badly you can say I told you so but give them a chance to try their plan before you attack them for incompetence.

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23 Jul 2015 12:29:45
Oh Waro, can't you see that building a football Team is like making Love to a beautiful women, u have to buy her things that she neither needs or will ever use, you never confront her with her real problems and most importantly Waro, even when she is shockingly sh#t you must tell her she is outstanding.

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23 Jul 2015 12:13:25
Muscatred.

Liverpool have spend well more than 300 mill in past three years. Just don't byte the excuse we never had money to buy a top class Keeper and DM.

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23 Jul 2015 13:15:41
Agree Euro, we bought loads of players over the period we simply didn't need. Even this window, which I'm pretty happy about given most of the players are upgrades I can't help thinking a new keeper was a priority .We now have 9 strikers but still the worst keeper in the top 6 by some distance.

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23 Jul 2015 14:18:28
EG/Swish, we had the money, Rodgers just disagrees with you that that's where it should be spent.

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23 Jul 2015 15:11:10
That's the bizarre thing Muscat, BR likes to play the ball out from the back yet has a keeper that is absolutely shocking with the ball at his feet. Migs is a pretty decent shot stopper but I cover my eyes everytime the ball gets played back to him!

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23 Jul 2015 16:57:33
That's a very valid point, and the best anti-migs one I've heard yet.

If the midfield and forwards impress this year then I imagine spending in defence will be the priority next summer.

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23 Jul 2015 18:19:53
We don`t need to spend on the defence because we already have good defenders here, Muscat. Spending money has fixed NONE of our defensive issues so clearly, we know where the prob lies. Continuing to throw money at such a basic prob is just stupidity. The back 5 need to work as a team just like the five fingers on your hand. Money can`t fix that. Sound coaching and a well-drilled and coherent system, does of which so far, BR has NONE of those. Hopefully, the new coaching crew can fix our "uncoachable" defensive errors because clearly BR and almost 100m spent on the GK and defenders, can`t and won`t if the spending continues.

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23 Jul 2015 19:42:59
Not convinced that defensive personnel is the issue, more the coaching of the defence. Hopefully the 'new' coaching staff will bring defensive acumen to the side. The keeper? Swish is spot on.

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23 Jul 2015 03:46:45
Hi Ed002

Rumours flying around the net (no, not twitter) that Ed001 is engaged.

Can you confirm this? Did anyone else show interest? What fee did Ed001 have to pay?

Could this all just be a smokescreen?

Any info appreciated.

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23 Jul 2015 12:32:26
Ed001 has neither denied or confirmed but Macca has said its happening so its Gospel!!

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23 Jul 2015 12:53:38
The contract isn't signed yet. I've heard there may be issues with the medical.

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23 Jul 2015 13:13:19
Judging by ed001s recent response it seems that he had many offers and that the women out there are very cheap.

Congrats by the way ed may you have a long and happy marriage

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. The missus might prefer a short marriage though....}

22 Jul 2015 22:21:13
Hi Eds,

a few of questions across several topics. Tried search function but I'm either blind or have a limited attention span.

1) Allen - do you expect him to be moved on before the window closes or will he be given another 6 to 12 months? I'm struggling to see how he fits into the team with what we now have.

2) Hearing that the Benteke money gets paid 22m up front and the rest over 5 years. I was of the understanding no payments generally went longer than 3 years. Not fussed if you can't elaborate, just trying to educate myself.

3) I was very impressed with Gomez, Rossiter and Ibe when I went to the games in Aussie. Of the 3, who are we expecting to go on loan? I'd love to see the young guys be a big part of our starting team for league cup and Europa games.

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{Ed002's Note - (1) It would not be a surprise, Liverpool need to move players on and it is hard to see how a whole bunch will get a game - including JA. (2) I don't know the details but Liverpool has been spending money it does not have at this time. (3) I would not expect Ibe or Gomez to go on loan - I don't know about Rossiter.}

23 Jul 2015 09:54:50
Ed can you settle a debate for me, How important are statistics in Scouting?

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{Ed001's Note - it depends on the club. Brentford have now shifted over to an almost entirely stats based system. Most clubs use them as a basis to get ideas of which players to look at.}

23 Jul 2015 10:48:49
IMO, stats are important. They are a good indicator, albeit perfunctory at times.

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23 Jul 2015 10:53:45
I've heard that a system called Scout 7 is being used at Liverpool. You can check out their website for further information.

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23 Jul 2015 11:04:40
First time poster. On a serious note congratulations on your engagement I wish you all the happiness with your future Mrs Ed001. And thank you for all the free info. Please block European Glory he is a pest.

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23 Jul 2015 11:24:50
I think stats are overrated. You just can't look at stats and decide whether to sign someone or not. They help up to a certain extent. But if you are basing your entire strategy on them then there is a problem imo. Say revel Morrison for example. If you look at his figures from the games he actually puts an effort in you'll think he is right up there. But stats won't tell you the whole story. His offfield problems are obviously a major worry.

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23 Jul 2015 12:00:10
I know stats can be misleading, and affected by leagues and surrounding players. However, if the likes of benteke for instance keeps on track with his current stats or betters them, in a side that should be scoring more goals, then it must be a factor.

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23 Jul 2015 10:17:49
Would you say an effective scouting report can be created without the use of statistics?

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{Ed001's Note - yes, of course it can. The best scout we have ever had was Geoff Twentyman and he never used stats at all. Stats are very misleading anyway, as it is a team game there are far too many influences on them that can make what seems a good thing turn out to be a bad thing. For instance there was a stat that showed Jose Enrique was the best one on one defender in the Prem, the season before we bought him. The problem with that stat was that it failed to take into account that the reason he was not being beaten by players dribbling past him was because he was constantly caught out of position. So we bought a player based on stats that were completely and utterly misrepresenting the player's actual ability.

Stats have their uses, but they should only be part of an overall assessment, instead of the final say. More a way of checking what you are seeing is correct, rather than being a decider. For instance if you were looking at Mesut Ozil, unless you sit and just watch him you would think he is not doing enough work and is a bit lazy. The stats though show that he covers more ground than most players, it is just that he is not always doing his work where it gets noticed. He is the one moving off the ball to create space for himself or to drag defenders around, the kind of moves you don't always see. While you would hope a scout would spot that, it does no harm to have a look at the stats to see if they do back up your assessment.}

23 Jul 2015 09:51:54
Obviously you would expect on the first game of the season, the likes of coutinho, firmino, moreno, can to sit out, as they have had little pre season, maybe coutinho could play. The reports on Gomez at left back though, and morenos little injury, I think it might be a while before we see him in our first choice 11.
Then again, if Gomez does turn out to be excellent, I certainly would prefer Gomez and sakho with moreno left back that skrtel in the middle!

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23 Jul 2015 11:12:17
Coutinho and Firmino will be playing. Gaurenteed. Still 2 weeks of pre-season.

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23 Jul 2015 12:00:53
I'll hold you to that, maybe they will get minutes, but can't see them both starting.

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23 Jul 2015 13:44:41
Read the book about Geoff Twentyman. An honest old pro who had an eye for a player. Nothing flash about him or the way he went about his work. If you get a chance to read it then do so. You will be surprised at the players he spotted and the way he went about his work.

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23 Jul 2015 09:44:11
My recent observation is that FSG/Rodgers/TC seem to operate one season in arrears.

We needed an experienced support for Gerrard, a proven premier league striker to replace Suarez and a replacement/improvement on Johnson 12 months ago. We have them now.

So I'm predicting that Trapp and Kovacic will arrive next summer :)

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23 Jul 2015 12:55:16
Didn't Trapp just move to PSG?

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23 Jul 2015 09:14:30
Hi Ed

Now that Christian Benteke has joined i expect us to go into selling mode. I expect the following to be concluded shortly.

Lambert to WBA - 3.5 Million

borini to Stoke - 8 Million

Balotelli to besiktas - 12 Million

Enrique to Newcastle - 4 Million

Ilori - Short Term Loan - Leauge Club

Rossiter Season long Loan - championship side

Markovic - Season long Loan to Benfica

OJO - Season long Loan - championship side


With This done i think this will bring to a end our dealings in this window, however i get a feeling there may be a shock deal on the cards with a player joing

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23 Jul 2015 09:45:16
Can't see those prices happening, can't imagine any more signings unless lucas is sold maybe

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23 Jul 2015 09:45:24
Hopefully Ilori stays and gets some games.

Those first four sales and prices would be amazing.

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23 Jul 2015 09:49:15
I expect some regular to comment ( Incredible sarcasm to follow )

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23 Jul 2015 09:52:09
Borini and lambert will leave

Llori has been promised games

We will not be able to give Balotelli or Enrique away

Rossiter and OJO agreed

The jury is still out on Markovic

I still think a left back will come and a midfielder if Lucas/Allen are sold.

Hoping the sakho to Lazio are rubbish.

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23 Jul 2015 09:56:58
I think halving those prices would be optimistic. I doubt we will see a profit from any as we will no doubt have to supplement the equivalent salary if they had seen out their lfc contracts.

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23 Jul 2015 10:00:15
Think you may be shooting just a tad to high with that Balotelli price pal

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23 Jul 2015 10:59:29
Balotellu 12mil? Get out of dreamland mate, won't get half of that

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23 Jul 2015 11:01:00
I wish I could locate the fantasy world that the original post came from, £4m for Enrique is unbelievable .

We will have to pay another club to take him, as we did with Joe Cole and Aquilani, plus subsidising his wages .

As for Balotelli , we have offered him on loan to two Italian clubs and offered to pay 80% of his wages, we were turned down instantly both times, the lad is toxic.

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23 Jul 2015 11:50:57
If Carlsberg did sales of Liverpool players.

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23 Jul 2015 12:02:22
Can't see a left back being bought, Gomez and wisdom can cover, moreno obviously is first choice at the moment, sakho can at a push.

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23 Jul 2015 13:16:40
Gomez,wisdom,sakho are not left backs

Enrique will be selling programmes outside the ground

Moreno is a poor defender

A half decent side will exploit any of those players

If we are to return to the top four we need a consistent full back not make shift fill ins

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23 Jul 2015 08:42:10
We are usually linked to a lot of players some are genuine and some are not ,but those tend to be players who are in the news.My question to you Ed001 and Ed002,how effective is our scouting system and why are they not able to uncover great buys more often. And what suggestions would you give to improve the scouting system? would you be able to suggest a great scout how's services we should acquire or a management decision maker who can make a difference. Are FSG giving proper considerations to this aspect of the game according to you?

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{Ed001's Note - it is more about who makes the decisions and how they are made that are the issues for me. While I am not a fan of Brendan's transfer dealings, as the manager he should be watching players in the flesh before they are bought. That should be the final piece before a choice is made from the shortlist provided by the scouts. Long before that, every player that has received positive scouting feedback should have been thoroughly researched, not just how they perform on the pitch, but what they are like off it. Their injury history should be checked out, what kind of life they lead etc should all be known before signing.

From what I can gather, the manager is not watching players in the flesh, it is being done on video footage and scouting reports, from various members of staff. That needs to change. Forget worrying about paper talk when the manager of the club is spotted at a different game, the players need to be watched properly before being bought. While you can never get every signing right, we are getting far too few right lately and it is important we fix that.

To me FSG are not doing enough with regards to this area of the club. Paisley would have known every area of a player's life before making a decision on them. Mistakes like Balotelli could have easily been avoided just by a simple background check. It seems like they are just not putting enough effort into forward planning, so that we are left diving into deals like Balotelli in desperation. Perhaps sometimes they would be better keeping their money in their pocket, as we have played better after a quiet transfer window. I am reminded of a famous quote by Benjamin Franklin, 'by failing to prepare you are preparing to fail'. We are sadly very much preparing to fail of late.}

23 Jul 2015 09:47:39
In response to the eds comments, you always used to see fergie in the stands, basically every weekend he would watch a game that's not United, learning players and opposition.

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{Ed001's Note - exactly, which is what Rodgers should be doing every day we are not playing he should be watching someone else and trying to learn something, as well as scouting players.}

23 Jul 2015 09:51:24
Our Scouting is pretty poor as we never bring the players in the area we needed and the right one. We take gamble and pure gamble.

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23 Jul 2015 09:59:33
Ed001 - Brendan can't even be bothered to go to the u21s games, let along to further afield to scout players!

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{Ed001's Note - that should be a sackable offence in my book. The manager of the club should be at every Liverpool game he can be, at every level.}

23 Jul 2015 10:20:16
To be fair to Brendan and in complete agreement with ed1.

Is there really enough time nowadays for a manager to go watch a player as thoroughly as is needed to get a proper gage of what they are like.

Take this season into account the amount of games and travelling we are going to be doing, if Brendan wanted to watch say Kovacic he's going to potentially manage say at a long shot 5 matches, now is that enough to make a proper judgment on a player.

A question though taking the above into account - we may not do it - but do other clubs compensate this and say Wenger wanted Carvalho for instance, he knows he isn't going to get to watch him as much as he would like unless there was an end of season tournament like this year. Would they then send one of there most experienced and trusted scouts and allocate him to just watching Carvalho for the majority of the season ?

I understand there are some players that truthfully don't need to be watches ott like Milner for example. You know what you are going to get and you can get film on him from the past 10 years and struggle to find a game where he didn't give 100%

If it was someone like Salvio at Benfica then Brendan has to be honest and say I can't get to Portugal enough to actually watch the boy so ill send our top scout and sit him on salvio for at least 20 games but he can still try to get out there but how many times did we watch Moreno, markovic, lallana and can for example.

There can't be enough going into it otherwise we wouldn't end up with some of the players we do like ed eluded to further up the page.

Few questions.

How much does a scout make per year on average and how come more isn't invested into them?

Would the club ever go off old scouting reports when making a decision over a player for example Alberto who was sort out by Rafa would people in the staff remember that and say recommend said player ?

Do the club ever go off pundits and motd when selecting a player for example lallana last year was the highlight reel king, say it was April and he hadn't been watched much but he was getting into the England squad, had all the pundits raving about him and was looking boss on motd would they buy him from that alone, or they have to at least be watched a certain amount of times by a scout/manager?

Cheers ed nice bit of discussion for once, cudos on the engagement btw 😊

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{Ed002's Note - Typically there are a number of people that a club retains or employs regarding the "scouting" of players including a permanent Chief Scout and a perhaps a Head of International Scouting who all will report in to the club via a Director of Football or whatever. There is also be a guy who co-ordinates all of the reports and ensures that they go to the correct person. Obviously no one at the first team level is going to see or be interested in any reports related to kids so there is a hierarchy that deals with young kids, potential academy players up to the first team squad. There are then scouts retained by clubs in specific countries and/or areas of the world - France, South America, Adriatic & Old Eastern Bloc, Iberia etc.. On top of that there will be freelance scouts (often ex-referees and amateur club staff who will stay within their particular area of expertise and region). Once a player has been looked at a couple of times and reports reviewed, then someone from further up this chain will take a look. Eventually a chief scout will take a look, or if it is a potential first team player, then perhaps a coach or manager will take a look. Some clubs have advisors which include, taking one EPL side as an example, ex-managers.}

23 Jul 2015 10:37:21
Not going to disagree with that. Martinez is a terrible manager but he bothers to go to Everton academy games at least. I feel sorry for the kids at Liverpool with this guy in charge.

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23 Jul 2015 10:55:45
Ed001, Isn´t this a good reason to have a sporting director or DOF who can take some of the responsibility of the Manager/headcoach? He would have time for watching the youth, attending matches watching transfer targets etc. Leaving BR to just coach the 1st team.

If Benteke is a BR signing, then I doubt that BR have any idea how Benteke plays. We have so many creative players who likes to play a throughball, and Benteke is really poor at timing his runs which often results in a offside decision. This is why I think that Ings will be a better signing than Benteke (He has got much better anticipation)

I might come across as a negative person, but I´m just concerned that the club seem to put so little effort in, and would rather pay the price for not being prepared, than do that little further research to see if a player fit in properly. As Ed001 said we wasted a great deal of money on Balo, and I´m just afraid that we might loose even more money on Benteke.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't see how coaching the first team requires that much time? How is he meant to learn about the U21s and know if they are ready to step up to the first team if he has not seen them play? How is he meant to see the full picture of an opposition's play if he is not at the ground scouting them?

Craig Bellamy has talked about it at length in the season just gone, how we didn't understand what Basel were doing, as no one had the insight to see that they were changing formation when they got the ball. When they defended they used a back four, when they got the ball it became a 3, and it totally confused our whole coaching staff. Why the hell had Rodgers not gone and watched them properly after the first game? He couldn't understand what they were doing after that match, so go and find out, do your job for heaven's sake and find out how to deal with them to win us the second game!

There is no excuse for not taking the time to go and watch games, video footage is useful, all the computer animations are good, but there is no substitute for actually being there and watching it live.}

23 Jul 2015 12:43:07
I never really usd to watch the kids before Brendan because I just though what's the point, there never going to get a chance so why bother getting your hopes up.

Then Brendan came in and there seemed to be a big focus on youth so I started watching all the games and have seen Brendan only a few times and even then I might be being kind.

It is utterly disgusting, i know he brings a lot of the kids up to Melwood but he definatly won't be bringing them all up so is he missing someone. I assume that js there is someone playing well then Brendan will certainly be informed but he has to get to the games to properly see them.

Martinez does it. He's never bloody away from them.

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23 Jul 2015 08:59:16
hi just wondering whether now benteke here whether to expect any more arrivals

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23 Jul 2015 09:25:08
If there were to arrive more players it would be for the academy or u21.

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23 Jul 2015 08:19:15
Massive credit to all the ed's, particularly ed001 & ed002, who informed us way, way ahead of time of our interest in Benteke, the process as it went by up until the conclusion. Excellent work lads - as always the best source of Liverpool-related information out there: a big thank you for sharing it!

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{Ed001's Note - thank you, I just hope he does the business for us now.}

23 Jul 2015 09:05:42
They have been brilliant from years, If I recall two of their Busiest days

1. Torres handing a TR on deadline day with Caroll coming in.

2. FSG take over, this site litreally crashed.

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23 Jul 2015 08:14:31
Beasteke welcome to Anfield YNWA

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23 Jul 2015 07:47:07
Congrats Ed01 and Mrs Ed01 to be!
Just a quick one, is it fair to say that's our business done now, just concentrating on outs and loan deals for one or two youth players in the transfer market?
We need the boys back to Melwood now to start gelling with Mr Benteke and co, looking forward to a great season '. there's a golden sky. ' YNWA

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{Ed001's Note - thank you and yes pretty much focused on outs now.}

23 Jul 2015 07:46:38
Ed 01 congratulations mate!!!! Thanks for all answers etc. Even when predicted text takes over! !!! ( moreno- romantic/roma!!!!!.) Good luck!!!!!.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you stevie, sometimes it makes it a lot more fun when predictive text kicks in.}

23 Jul 2015 08:56:23
Good banter Ed 01 . I haven't seen gomez play yet how do you rate him? Full back or centre back? Cheers .

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{Ed001's Note - I have not seen him play for us yet, only seen him as a youngster in the Charlton youth teams. They had him as a centre back, but I have chatted with a few people at Charlton and they say he can play either just as well. Their belief is that he will end up breaking into the team in one position and be so good he will stay there and it will become his position by default.

23 Jul 2015 09:14:20
Was it a romantic Erection Ed? 😯

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{Ed001's Note - only when the missus is around....}

23 Jul 2015 09:23:41
Cheers mate sounds very encouraging.

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23 Jul 2015 07:43:39
Just a brief question, are we in transition again as it's not been brought up this summer and I miss it? After 300 million spent since he's been here it would be easy to think we need another 8 players before transition can leave us for good, it's like my lad in Fifa this, a new team every season!

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23 Jul 2015 08:07:24
Every team is in transition every season

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23 Jul 2015 08:18:33
Well, It depends and it would in all honesty, Apart from Chelsea and Arsenal who hasn't done anything with their starting eleven, others will struggle to gel together.

Ironically, We still haven't improved our weakest points in the team shows much the TC and FSG know about the game. I don't think niether woud have watched us play last season.

We have a very average GK and would continue into the next season ( his 4th year looking for improvement )

We got lucky this time with the signing of Gomez ( looks like a solid signing )

No improvement in the middle, means teams will press Lucas high up, conceed free kicks, swing the ball into the box and conceed goal. Matic won the title for Chelsea, where Arsenal are loking to add one, UTD have improved.

We have added 4 players + Sturridge upfront to score goals which is good and bad as 3 out of 4 would be on the bench anyways.

No team in the PL has won the title without a World class DM and Liverpool will not break this record. We lost the title because Gerrard couldnt, And yet no signs of Improvement.

Hope remains, Apart from Chelsea anyone could make up the next 3 spots.

Not being Negative, just an observation.

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{Ed001's Note - Man City have never had a decent, let along world class, DM.}

23 Jul 2015 08:48:43
Thats because Ed01, You don't rate anyone apart from Matic Above Lucas. If they have won two titles, They had a good title winning team. Yaya was one hell of a player on both the occassions.

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{Ed001's Note - or is it just because I understand that Yaya was never a defensive midfielder, while that seems to have completely escaped your attention?}

23 Jul 2015 08:55:37
How do you get lucky when you scout a player then go out and sign them. And you say you are not being negative

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23 Jul 2015 09:21:06
Did utd not have Darren Fletcher 12/13? Hardly world class

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23 Jul 2015 09:21:57
Red Since 64,

I would suggest you look back some of our previous buys and majoirty were scouted. Assaidi?
Lets face the fact, We litreally trashed BR and TC for buying Gomez ( Another Kid, Kelly given no chance. Wisdom has singed. blah blah ).
The kid was never bought for the first team in the first place.

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23 Jul 2015 09:30:23
I don't think you particularly need a DM to win a title.I certainyl wouldn't call carrick a world class DM if he could even be considered one when UTD won the title in 12/13,as ed pointed out City with fernando and fernandinho and toure won the title without any one competent in the role,Barcelona have proven time and again,you can win titles and champions leagues with Busquets playing there!!

I think Can will be sufficient cover there,we only got glimses last season of him in that role vs Hull or WBA (I think at home) and vs Real Madrid. we also have chirivella.

I don't think Arsenal really needed to add anything to their team maybe another centreback,and develop a plan B. They went out and got what they really required which wasa GK.

I don't get why Gomez is a ''lucky'' signing.Surely it means a scout has done his homework.

I don't mind that we added 3 new forward players. Sturridge is an injury worry,balo is a prat that needs getting rid of,Lambert won't get a chance,and Borini will probably leave,Those 3 won't feature. we came close playing a high tempo game,with pressure and teamwork and fluid movement up front.With the current signings I hope we return to that ( I am nervous about Bentekes contribution in that regard) however if we can just shore up our defense, we should see a vast improvments in results.

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23 Jul 2015 09:38:31
EG. Surely our forward line was our biggest weakness? We all worry about defence but you'd have been incredulous if we spent 50 mil on new CBs and still had Balo up front.

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23 Jul 2015 09:59:03
Muscatred.

Well not really, A team consist of 11 players and should be balanced IMO. Coming season is all about how much you score more than you conceed. that's exactly BR decided to spend 80% of his budget on adding fire power. ( I wouldn't blame him )

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23 Jul 2015 10:04:47
Bob.

Carrick is superb player and they have bought a Playmaker who could defend well in Schnider. He would sit there and do his job well.

I do rate Fernandinho / Fernando and its your call if you dont.

Busquets is a damm good player and He play alongside a world class CM who run the show.

Liverpool FC Midfield pairs are Lucas ( DM ), Allen ( CM ), I personally wanted an upgrade on either of them.

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23 Jul 2015 07:28:30
Hey Everyone. Hello ed01, Firstly Congratulations on your Engagement.
Would like your opinion on Texiera, what do you think of him as a player and do you think from this season to the future he will be a great for LFc or you think like other youth, he will also move on due to lack of playing time , because for me he will be great in midfield and will dictate our play in future from the midfield sitting just ahead of thr DM . Would like your honest opinion on it.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Deano. I really like Teixeira, it is just a shame he has been badly handled, plus injured a lot. This season is make or break for him, he needs to stay fit and then he can start to force his way into the team for the long term. He is probably the best playmaker at the club, but he does need to avoid the injuries or it is no use him being a great player, as he will not be affecting games.}

23 Jul 2015 13:15:06
Thank you ED for that reply, even i do hope he stays fit and get into the team, i think him in front of lucas will change our game completely and will get more sense of actual inch perfect passing game. Sorry to bother you with another question this is a bit of more tactical one and it includes Hemderson, Hendo is a good player but ed don't you feel he hesitates a lot to get into the deep of the midfield and make the play and specially against the teams which are playing a high press games against us. when players press high against our CB's lucas gets into their aid, he Mans up and take the ball and move the ball ahead, but now the case is when Lucas or whoever is playing a DM when they get pressed, hendo doesn't come to their resuce, he doesn't get close so that he n the DM can quickly get a one tow n take the ball ahead, i am not criticizing henderson but i think is it not the duty of the midfield player to do that.

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{Ed001's Note - it is not just Hendo that is a bit guilty of being slow to react, so I would think it is probably something they are not instructed to do, hence they seem to take too long to adjust to the need when it arises. I am hoping that the arrival of O'Driscoll will help with that, he will want them well drilled in responding to threats and communicating with each other when they need each other to do something different.}

23 Jul 2015 04:05:48
We have numerous attacking options and it will be interesting to see how and when they fit in. The most important area will be the defense. A solid defense and we could challenge for the league. If we a playing about till Christmas then it will be too late. So who would everyone like to see at the two main CBs and who is your preferred back 4? Sakho and illori/skrtel for me would like to see wisdom given some time

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23 Jul 2015 06:57:09
Sakho - llori / Gomez

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23 Jul 2015 07:18:49
Sakho & Ilori all day long

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23 Jul 2015 07:38:45
Sakho and ilori 100%.

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23 Jul 2015 07:58:27
Challange for the title? Why not also challange for the Champions League title as well?

We got into the top 4 only once in the last 6 years, we finished 6th last year and we lost in the summer two players who provided us with 16 goals and quite few assists. We got some decent signings during the summer (but nothing more than decent) but so did our rivals and some of their signings were more impressive than ours.

If you ask any objective person who knows anything abut football he will tell you that the top 4 have at least 8-9 better players in their starting 11 compared to ours (and I am being generous here becuase I think Chelsea for example has 11 better players) plus much better managers.

I think that if we can somehow squeeze into top 4 it will be sensational achievement which I can't see happening.

It is sport, and anythign can happen and you can always hope at the begining of a season but stating here that we can challange for the title is not serious.

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23 Jul 2015 09:41:07
Fanobip, I remember you saying almost exactly the same 2 seasons ago.

Not saying it will happen, but every season must start with hope, not suicidal negativity.

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23 Jul 2015 02:23:44
Not sure what you all think, but for me, the transfers have made us stronger. Even if you take out the black box which is Firming (meaning I am not sure what to expect, and could be a star) then I would still be happy. Did we solve all our problems? No, but I think we have too many to do that in one window. This squad looks like it can contend for top four.

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23 Jul 2015 07:23:43
Feels a bit too much like a repeat of last Summer i.e. the signings doubtless make the squad stronger, but without targeting the areas of concern

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23 Jul 2015 08:26:53
I think a lot of the 'areas of concern' have been looked at.
I don't agree that this has been the same as last year. The players that have been brought in, with the exception of Firmino, have got football experience of the English leagues which is a big plus.
We have replaced Jones, gerrard and Johnson with very good players and I think we have certainly looked at the forward line with Ings, Firmino and Benteke.
The defense could be a concern but with Skrtl signing a new deal, Gomez coming in (who I think looks a good bit of business), Ilori hopefully getting a chance and Clyne certainly looks a step up from Johnson.
Can we not be so down with the team? The squad looks good and I think it is moving in the right direction.

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23 Jul 2015 08:49:08
Very positive:

Clyne better than GJ
Gomez looks a great prospect and good cover across the back 4
Milner - excellent replacement for Gerrard, a driving force with lots of experience.
Ings - young and hungry striker
Benteke - scores a lot
Firmino - going to be a complete legend IMO
Origi back from loan looks decent.

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23 Jul 2015 09:33:55
I think we've been very targeted. Replaced leaving players. Sort out forward line. Job done.

The only one that doesn't fit that bul idea is Gomez and I expect nobody thought he was going to be pushing for a first team place.

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23 Jul 2015 10:37:54
Apart from not buying a proper goalkeeper which has been the imperative since before migs arrived and still is.

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23 Jul 2015 02:04:39
Like to say I am very happy with the signings so far. In benteke, Clyde and Milner we've added premier league proven players to the squad. In firmino we have a player who has performed at the top level in the German league and a potentially quality signing.
Whoever is in charge of transfers has done a good job so far.

Last season we signed youngsters, budget players and a hopeful signing in balotelli.

I truly hope we move out 4-5 players and bring in a world class keeper (looks very unlikely). Kovacic would be the icing on the cake.
Brendan Rodgers has absolutely no excuse not to get the team seriously challenging for honours and top 4 this coming season. The buck will stop with him.

Here's hoping for the best to come out from Rodgers and the new coaching team, exciting times ahead for all.

I predict us finishing 2/3 rd as long as Rodgers does his job right.

YNWA

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23 Jul 2015 06:58:45
Kovacic would complete our team. Yes
We might go for him once the season starts and how our midfield perform against stoke ( who are very physical )

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23 Jul 2015 08:28:20
I thought Kovacic has stated that he wishes to stay in Italy?

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23 Jul 2015 09:44:38
Right turn, Clyde ;)

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23 Jul 2015 10:48:05
I would not even say I was content with the squad, but it is what it is and no point moaning about it. We have signed some good professionals who have replaced what we lost but we have not really improved.

However, it is time to knuckle down and get the team working together and see where they take us.

Hopefully we are not embarrassed by Stoke on the first day of the season and I say that with all seriousness.

A couple of wins against some pan asian teams doth not make a premier league winning team and the players and manager still have a lot to do to convince me we have not spunked another £100m plus up the swanney.

To my mind we have consolidated our position in the mid to lower half of the top ten and with a tail wind we may sneak a top 4 if the bonafide top 4 teams have another stinker like last year and that's me being extremely generous.

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23 Jul 2015 01:28:35
Been away in Adelaide for the game (local to Australia - however nowhere near adealide) but congratulations on getting engaged Ed01! and would also like to extend a large thankyou to yourself and all the Eds for the hard work over the summer, looking forward to hopefully a great new season!!

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{Ed001's Note - thankyou rich, I hope you enjoyed the game as well.}

23 Jul 2015 13:16:07
I did enjoy the game Ed! atmosphere was electric however i'd had way too many pints by that point to take it all in. Even better was the open training session where i managed to sneak (jump the fence) onto the pitch and get Migs and Bogdan to sign my kit. However Migs didn't quite seem that impressed with me might i say

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{Ed001's Note - maybe telling him we should have signed a better keeper this summer could have had something to do with that? ;o)

23 Jul 2015 13:36:59
I thought i was just doing a service to this website mentioning to him that everyone who gets around without guide dogs would have loved Begovic on the tour as opposed to Bogdan!! In saying that though having met the two blokes now i must say that Bogdan is a much better person than Mignolet is! The bloke earns 100k odd a week and didn't even want to sign my Jersey, its just about the only thing i'd say his hands are good for atm! :')

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