Liverpool Banter Archive July 23 2017

23 Jul 2017 22:49:03
I was reading all the posts below, and I was like is this Liverpool banter. Or Chelsea banter hosted by an ed which creates lots of negatigity. Poor post ed. Your just having a bad day. Cheer up mate.
I hope I have kept loop holes for you to pounce on me. 😁.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you think I have done wrong due to you inability to reply to a post. Sorry.}So this appears to be just random nonsense.}

23 Jul 2017 23:11:24
Ed is our blackadder.

We love him, but he's a miserable sod. Haha.

24 Jul 2017 08:14:30
Ed just answers the question that gets asked and then gets asked 100 times whether there is holding meaning in his messages it's outrageous. If you read Ed002s posts as blunt and to the point they are not only clear but very insightful.

23 Jul 2017 21:51:56
Hi eds, with it looking like RBL won't budge on Keita, do you know who we would look to sign instead of him, if anyone?

Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I listed them all earlier.}

23 Jul 2017 20:51:54
Come on eds how stupid must we be to put another bid for Keita they have made there position very clear they don't wanna sell I can't help thinking lfc no sumet else coz it if was a lost cause we wouldn't keep trying for him (Keita) . Also who do u think we will go for when we finally realise it's time to walk away jus want this rumour to be put to bed now as there always a new story regarding the transfer everyday thanks for all hard work to keep us fans in the know.

{Ed002's Note - OK I will come clean. My fat buddy from Bolton and his invisible friend at TheFarm on Twitter has told me that: Can agreed a new contract back in June - right after Keita signed for the club. Right after he signed again in July the clubs reached an agreement to keep it quiet for a few years. Since then, Keita has signed again for Liverpool and has been on holiday with van Dijk who also originally signed in May - oddly enough on the same day as Sessegnon and Brandt.}

23 Jul 2017 21:59:04
Oddly enough I don't believe u 😂😂😂.

{Ed002's Note - He has moobs man, what is not to believe. He can't get a chick and sits in his bedroom at his divorsed mother's council house guessing which Twitter rumours will become true.}

23 Jul 2017 22:10:05
Lol ed. i do admit for the last few weeks to have being drawn in by the firm an the graeme kellys of the world. but when the eds describe it like that makee chuckle and think what a fool I've been

Keep up the good work eds.

23 Jul 2017 19:56:23
Not a rumour, just any opinion. I think w will offer 30m plus sakho for vvd. Southampton were one of the club's rumoured to be interested in sakho.
We get it man, they get a top quality replacement.
I also think keita will sign but I'm not sure is the end of the world if we don't. We have enough quality in midfield.
Would have liked to see nice pair pereira and nalbert come in but I think klopp is happy now with full back.

23 Jul 2017 21:13:47
It would make sense to offer Sakho to Southampton as part of any VVD deal. Question is. do they want him? And would he agree to go there. Got a feeling he wouldn't.

23 Jul 2017 18:55:34
With kieta looking unlikley as rb don't want to sell but i still beleve will sign. who are the altenatives on klopps list i am made up with the signings we have brought in so far.
Salah
Solanke
Robertson

ynwa.

{Ed002's Note - None of which were any of Klopp's first choices. If Liverpool don't manage to sign Keita then the first question they should ask themselves is "do we really need someone who we don't really want in midfield?". What is the shortcoming they are trying to address - no Lucas leaving as Grujic can fulfil that role.}

23 Jul 2017 19:14:14
My first choice was Gisele, life doesn't always work out the way you planned. Move on Ed.

23 Jul 2017 19:28:30
I do wonder if a midfield of can hendo coutinho lallana and gini will cut it in the CL though.

{Ed002's Note - And Grujic - but I suspect they will look to add one. But the approach taken is harvesting none of the first picks and in doing so seriously damaging the careers of others and pissing clubs off.}

23 Jul 2017 19:48:39
Grujic cannot play defensive midfield at this point, that much is very evident from the U23 games I have seen, and the pre-season friendlies. He has a lot of learning to do, particularly with defending and releasing the ball quicker.

{Ed002's Note - In which cae his WP will be an issue going forward. And keep in mind Lucas has been a fringe player for a while.}

23 Jul 2017 20:27:25
Bang on Ed02 with your replies . Move on from Kieta!

23 Jul 2017 22:01:36
I have always said that Keita was fool's gold and our inability to take a hint from RBL's continuous refusals and I hope that now, we have learnt our lesson.

23 Jul 2017 18:12:31
1st time poster but long time reader. Hi guys. Just like to say cracking job Ed's and I have to say from viewing this site for quite a while, big respect to Rob Keague. Love his positivity and respect his views. Anyway, enough of the love in, my views on the upcoming season:
Versatile, very strong attacking line up. Regardless whether Couts stays (and of course I hope he does), we have some very creative and exciting attack minded players that are all clever enough to unlock the tightest of defences of any given day.
Yes, I do believe we need some more strength in defence, but we have some young players with great potential. I know they are not ready yet eg. Gomez and TAA, but my point is, rather than spending huge amounts on 1/ 2 defenders now, maybe a couple of quality older players? Provide competition now, and more importantly, role models and 'teachers' to improve our potentials?

23 Jul 2017 18:16:23
Ha - Rob Keague, apologies! Don of course.

23 Jul 2017 18:25:43
😂
Good lads Rob and Don 🤝.

23 Jul 2017 17:49:26
Can, hendo and wij.

Do we think that's enough for the whole season?

Thoughts.

23 Jul 2017 18:06:18
Grujic? Lallana? Cautinho? Milner?

23 Jul 2017 18:07:13
Grujic? Milner? Ejaria?

23 Jul 2017 18:10:16
Can looks like going to Juventus.

23 Jul 2017 18:32:24
Can and Hendo deep, Wiji and Grujic in the box to box role and Lallana and Coutinho further forward. yes that's enough for me.

Most are versatile enough to play more than one position too, especially Can, Hendo and Wiji.

23 Jul 2017 19:50:55
For central midfield.

Not attacking. To keep the opposition out.

Potentially 60 games.

Hendo missed half of last season.

So again Can, hendo and win for the whole season?

23 Jul 2017 15:55:25
Hi Eds,

I've checked the search but haven't seen anything mentioned for a while with regards to any right backs we may be looking at? I'm not a fan of Clyne and think he needs replacing, or at least some good competition. Are we still looking at improving this position?

Also, with both Van Dijk and Keita looking increasingly unlikely to happen, have we looked at any alternatives in their positions, or is it a case of aquiring these guys, or nobody?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.}

23 Jul 2017 17:53:10
Is Trent Alexander-Arnold not good enough competition? I don't see an urgent need to spend money on a RB now when we have TAA and indeed Milner who could both push Clyne for the spot next year.

23 Jul 2017 19:33:41
As the Ed's have said before, our fullbacks are vital to our game, and what we have is two bang average options in Clyne and Milner (I'd probably argue Clyne is below average) and a young, unproven player in TAA. I don't think we should settle for average when we're hoping to push for a title challenge next season. I would like to see the same sort of ambition we're showing with the pursuit of Keita, Personally I was very disappointed with the signing of Robertson.

23 Jul 2017 13:16:31
If you know me, I like kova kova kovacic, enough of this Naby Keita ding dong and Harry Scousser will agree,
What do you say, home fans?

23 Jul 2017 14:32:02
four disagrees? some people not been here long enough to get the joke lol.

23 Jul 2017 14:35:52
Keita is the most dynamic midfield player in Europe . He's a dual cm . Can do the Kante stuff but he's equally as good in the offensive end . He's a huge talent . Would suit us perfectly . The intensive side of the game . Goals assists and breaking things up . The most no brainer target I've ever known .

23 Jul 2017 18:24:23
Shame we're not going to get him. Need to move on and find someone with a similar style of play and ability, there must be a player as good as him out there.

24 Jul 2017 12:31:07
Echo, from what you say you sound like you know quite a bit about Keita? Is this just from YouTube clips or have you ever actually seen him play?

23 Jul 2017 09:25:28
If we decide to sell couts, I personally think we will get one more season similar to Alonso (where he had an awesome season in 08/ 09) and then reluctantly sell next summer for big money!

But if we were to sell this year who would people want to replace him with in the 11?

23 Jul 2017 09:57:53
Easy.

Firminho and purchase another forward.

23 Jul 2017 10:05:14
Max Meyer of Shalke would be a like for like Onceared, but I would be happy to get Meyer now and let him and Couts rotate for a season then let Phil go next yr if he wishes too.

23 Jul 2017 10:47:29
Ante Coric maybe?

23 Jul 2017 10:53:48
We shouldn't sell Phil at all. no chance. We have a history of not replacing top players (still haven't replaced Suarez)
But if the club are stupid enough to sell our best player again, then the whatever the fee, got to be around 100mil imo, should be put used to buy one player equally as talented. We sold Suarez and spent 80m on about 7 players and it didn't work.

23 Jul 2017 10:54:50
Like the sound of coric but fear he's quite a way off being ready for the first team.

23 Jul 2017 11:02:30
Coric, Meyer, Firmino. I have no words.

23 Jul 2017 11:42:48
Agreed HX, just absolute nonsense.

23 Jul 2017 12:09:00
I appreciate there's not a great deal of options out there but if people genuinely believe they are good enough to replace Phil then they need to give their head a wobble.

23 Jul 2017 12:11:40
Yeah I don't get the Firmino comment, they're just not that similar in terms of their play.
It's pointless trying to get a like for like replacement.
For me if Alexis Sanchez wants champions league and Coutinho goes for £100m then I'd put a bid in for Sanchez.

23 Jul 2017 12:33:06
Agreed Ron but I really doubt he'd come after rejecting us last time.

23 Jul 2017 12:50:39
Renata sanches would be a good replacement should couts decides he wants to go really hope he doesn't though.

23 Jul 2017 12:51:29
But if an odd one but personally would get Aubameyang if the Keita deal came through. Swap to a 4-4-2 with firmino playing up top and hendo Keita midfield, plus mane and salah on sides.

23 Jul 2017 13:14:49
Acered - sorry, how on earth is Renato Sanches supposed to replace Coutinho? He is a completely different player, nowhere near the same standard, and also totally out of form. You just picked a name and thought it would sound good.

23 Jul 2017 13:30:11
Sanches, Coric, Meyer (who's not even better than Woodburn) and another forward (whoever that means) to replace Coutinho? Good thing some on here do not run transfer business at LFC. None of these players can replace Couts a they are not even better than his left peg.

23 Jul 2017 14:59:27
I'd go for Thomas Müller. Would love to see him and Bobby press together. That alone would give us 10 goals/ season. Plus the poaching, and his all around good guy aura.

23 Jul 2017 15:10:01
Eriksen, Pjanic, Isco, Suso and Lanzini are the type of players we'd need to look at to get a like for like replacement.

Only maybe Eriksen and Pjanic of that list are as good as Coutinho though and they have no reason to come to us. All the realistic options are a down grade at least for the immediate future.

Therefore I'd second what Ron has said and just go for a completely different kind of player. Somebody who can win a game single handedly, but not necessarily somebody of the same style as Coutinho.

23 Jul 2017 15:19:59
Neither Pjanic or Eriksen are on Coutinho's level, or close to it. Eriksen has an excellent delivery, but he has reached his limit as a footballer, overall, same for Pjanic. Coutinho is a top class player about to become an elite one.
Forget the conversation, we can't sell him this summer - period.

23 Jul 2017 15:38:48
MK agree on Isco. Decent player that can play as a Cam/ CM and on the wings. Could fill in well for couts and will probably cost the same. But I'd rather see couts plying for atleast another season.

23 Jul 2017 16:26:38
LoweLFC of course Sanches is not the same type of player that couts is who is?
remember when we picked couts up from Milan he was also out of form but class will come through in the end. Also so everyone who puts a name forward and you don't happen to agree with it just picked it out of the air just because it sounds good, what a stupid comment.

23 Jul 2017 05:50:36
Watched yesterday's game. Very realistic PL game in the first half. The Reds have an outstanding attacking lineup. My U11 team today dominated and had a very good attack but lack of quality in defence saw me lose soft goals. Liverpool have zero chance without a quality defence, if we lose Couts, very very disappointed, if we don't get Keita, so be it, we tried, but if we to get VVD I think it could be a game changer. Defending is paramount in my eyes. Sorry to compare to my U11's just trying to draw a vague analogy.

23 Jul 2017 05:57:47
lol my sons U11's team did the same thing conceding sloppy goals from switching off, but my son scored four created assisted three and we won so won't complain haha.

23 Jul 2017 09:58:51
I don't underatand what the big deal is.

23 Jul 2017 12:30:07
Sounds like we should be signing up your son for the youth set up Jay19!

22 Jul 2017 19:54:00
Hi ED1, one more question for you. Milner was not happy playing as a bit part player for City. How is he satisfied to be played out of position at LFC for the 2nd season? Is it the age? where he feels LFC is best club for him right now or no top club has shown interest in him? Thanking you in advance.

{Ed001's Note - it is because he was playing regularly.}

23 Jul 2017 04:32:52
Well he is playing regularly as a fullback. Although he was promised a midfield position by Rodgers but Milner must know himself he isn't going to be first choice with the quality we now have in midfield.

23 Jul 2017 04:48:20
Milner might not be very happy for long if Robertson is the intended fullback that provides the width. No place for him in midfield and Robertson is a natural left footer who will offer much more going forward. I can see Milner leaving in January if he loses his left back spot (only free space in the first team for him until Robertson steps in) . If he wants regular football, then there is going to be an issue. Hopefully he puts his personal targets to one side and can be an useful utility player for us next season.

23 Jul 2017 08:18:03
If everyone is fit, RB is the only place I see Milner playing in and again, that is debatable. Love his attitude and selflessness but that can only get you so far esp. if we want to get to the next level.

23 Jul 2017 09:08:26
I agree can't see him getting anywhere in midfield, defence maybe initially but I expect Robertson to take left eventually, and Alexander Arnold or Clyne will get right.

Great pro but I can't see where he's going to play next season, he could be possibly sold in January window depending on deals and progress of youngsters.

Full back births are starting to look stronger to me lot of choice.

Alexander Arnold.
Clyne.
Robertson.
Flannaghan.
Milner.

We still have Moreno too although I do expect him to leave this window.

23 Jul 2017 10:04:22
Milner will definitely get a fair share of midfield games and i reckon he knows that.

I suspect many don't quite appreciate the experience we have with our temporary left-back.

There were times when he was setting up all kinds from an advanced midfield role if my mind serves me correctly.

Great player to have at your disposal.

I also suspect that that defensive role will make him an even better player.

Why not throw him in front of the defence as a dm? Why not?

23 Jul 2017 13:27:39
If I remember rightly didn't he finish with most assists for the season when playing in the midfield.?

23 Jul 2017 18:13:19
Milner is completely overlooked, valuable player, would expect him to take over the Lucas shaped hole in the squad, cover for most positions.

22 Jul 2017 23:16:52
First time poster here so don't slaughter me. but it seems like Salah and Keita are replacements for couts . love this site been reading it for years, hello to all the eds great job.