Liverpool Banter Archive June 23 2013

 

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23 Jun 2013 23:15:07
So Henderson getting sold to raise now for Victor wanyama of celtic is the latest rumor I read! My question is would you lot be happy if it's true?

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No I think Henderson is going to be a great player in the future. Although Wanyama is a beast in midfield I would hope we could sign him with cash alone or through money from the possible Suarez sale. If it's true that we're not going for another striker and are improving the squad with the money, I would hope it's going towards Wanyama, instead of selling Hendo. Love his passion and commitment, think he could be a huge player for us going forward. With a Wanyama type player, a solid centre back, and hopefully Mkhitaryan and a decent striker, I think top 4 will be ours next season. Cheers.
ROI.

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I have never seen wenyama play atall. I know everyone was buzzing after his performance againts barca last year. But with MH coming in Henderson is going to be right down the pecking order. If its true I'd be happy. Henderson has great games but 70% of the time u don't even no he's on the field!

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24 Jun 2013 00:19:27
Because, most of them are fans of other clubs trolling. Some of them moan because they are "cheap" and unproven. I thought Downing & Aquilani were supposed to be proven?
Some moan because we aren't buying their favorite player on Fifa 13.
Some moan because they have enough ignorance to believe that a 10 min. clip on YouTube is enough to call a player rubbish or brilliant and have the arrogance to say they know better than the scouts who have been watching Aspas & Alberto for 8-9 months.
Some moan because we can't compete financially with other clubs and spend 35 million on 1 proven player instead of 4. What if that "proven" player flops? Or gets injured? We are back to zero.
Some follow whatever ed002 says ( no disrespect at all ed002) like its the holy word. And fail to make their own opinions.
Some want to slag off anything FSG & BR do, and write off players signed so they can come back later and say ' I you told he is cr*p'
Some are balanced and wait for the players to play first before giving praise or write them off.
Some just support everything blindly and some are just miserable.

[The only REDS]

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Lol good summary but you forgot the sad keyboard warriors whose sole purpose is to belittle and slag off fellow readers

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And some (The only REDS) just can't handle any opinion that disagrees with their own.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and a BANTER site is the perfect place to express it. Lay off everyone else just because they aren't as blindly optimistic as you.

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It's not true so I don't have to worry about it.

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24 Jun 2013 07:18:06
To the last poster.

Dude. what's you point?. should we moan (concerned, raise voice) or juts shut up (like we have been for years, waiting for the next year).
If we are brining Micky, I don't get where is hendo going to play?.

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Henderson is a excellent worker so probably play against big clubs as such or to give more ballance you have to mix it up but Victor is a big strong dm that we need tough one

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23 Jun 2013 23:06:04
Ed002 stop all the rubbish talking all the other eds give answers when a question is asked

But you always say {rtp} or {rtfp} and so on crap like that if you don't like being asked questions go and edit an other site or better again stop editing altogether you cried yesterday how much free time you give up to do this
Well we give up our free time as well and to listen to the rubbish you put up is a disgrace
Now piss of to the Chelsea site with your {rtp} and don't come back on this one
All you do is tell lies when you do bother to write anything anyways some people made donations to this site so they can read what people say not your crap
You cheeky posh person

{Ed002's Note - I have answered many, many times more questions here than anyone else and I rather think you will find what I have said to be way more accurate than anything else that has been provided. You of course are a serial abuser. Nevertheless, tell us what you have donated to this site and I will refund it - in fact I will double it and make sure it is returned to you. Or is it simply BS and more embarrassment for the Liverpool fans?}

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I really don't see why people would ask a question on this site if they aren't prepared to read previous posts? Ed thanks and keep up the good work!

RobInRed {Ed002's Note - It seems that one poster wants repeated answers - then of course he will complain and bitch and whine about that. We are still awaiting his details so I can double the contribution he made to the site and return it. Seemingly he has disappeared again - an embarrassment for the fans? We'll see in the morning.}

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Don't mind him Ed. Surprise surprise he didn't leave his name. people like this aren't worth your time Ed. You do a great job on here. I can't imagine how annoying it must be to be asked the same questions over and over again. Keep up the good work mate, you and all the other Ed's are legends! Cheers.
ROI. {Ed002's Note - We know who it is - someone who regularly abuses and often drags the reputation of the fans down. Pitiful of course. And another disappearing act.}

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OP, I'll give you some advice. your an person.

the end

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This crap should not even be posted on this site, however Ed002 I don't think it's fair to associate him with Liverpool fans, and claim that he's causing Embarrassment to Liverpool fans, because no-one can really ascertain who he really supports!

He might just come on here to make Pool fans look bad.

He's an embarrassment to himself and all football fans really.

PS: Quit the abuse you pack of petulant barstewards.

SR (StrabaneRed) {Ed002's Note - I do not hold anything against the Liverpool fans for the minority of those posting who seem out to destroy or harm the website, the club or the other posters.}

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I think that's so rude what the person just wrote. I know that the EDs give up a lot of their time to get us information and to keep us informed, especially ED002, and this is something that they don't actually have to do if they don't want to. Without the EDs this website won't exist and won't function so stop being an ass. If you don't appreciate what the EDs do and don't want to listen to what they have to say, then go on another bloody site and spread your crap there. If you know so much why don't you go and make your own website then since you're so cocky; otherwise stop abusing the EDs and appreciate them for once like the rest of us.
Rant over.

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"Tell us what you have donated to this site and I will refund it" not a chance of this person doing that Ed, he doesn't even sign his post.

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Oh here we go another keyboard warrior getting all happy because he thinks he's ard for abusing a person who provides her time and accurate information for everyone.

The guy must literally be in secondary school and can't be very popular so this makes him feel big probably. Quite sad :(

London red

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The eds shouldn't have to repeat themselves all the time just have a read through the posts before you ask your question it is that simple.

Eds I heard that Honda is available on a free, surely we are interested for free? Lol

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I posted on down Ed002 (waaay on down), IP ban these fools.

(Not to be repetitive lol)

SR (StrabaneRed)

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Ed please don't put him in the same bracket by saying this is embarrassment for Liverpool fans. you get tools in every society of people, he is clearly one.

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Here's a concept; if you don't like what the Eds are writing or responding with on THEIR website, sod off and stop logging on to THEIR website.

SpudRed

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We need to get rid of these so call fans who write posts like this and I don't mean off this site I mean out of the club completely

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Ed002 is the best one on all of these sites, please don't leave. The only time I don't like reading your thoughts ed are when it's saying Suarez is a disgrace and that we have no chance to sign some player but it's what we need to hear no matter how hard it is to take. You're very informative and for the questions you answer you give very interesting and insightful information rather than speculative answers anyone could get from some article. That's why I keep coming back atleast because you let us know something we otherwise wouldn't. Thanks ads, I appreciate your work and wouldn't blame you for quitting because of people like him but am grateful you stick it out for the rest of us.

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Please ban this OP. They are clearly a WUM.

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24 Jun 2013 09:11:06
You would know benny ballbag, being the biggest spanner in the tool box;-)

Waro

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'cheeky posh person' I bet that stung eh Ed002?

Puzzled {Ed002's Note - Oh it did Puzzled. It seems that he never donated to the site so that was all just embarrassing BS.}

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24 Jun 2013 11:50:52
People who don't have an IQ high enough to type a players name in the search function and then abuse the eds are headless chickens! Complete embarrassment!
Ed002, people like him hide when the going gets tough, he is simply a coward and you should know that we all appreciate your work.

[The only REDS]

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23 Jun 2013 23:01:35
Just thought I'd give my views on the transfers so far:

Toure - Whilst his best days are likely gone we are in need of new centre backs, especially with the likely departure of skrtel and coates on top of losing carragher, so he could be useful experience to have in the squad.

Luis Alberto - I am a little dubious as to this player. Admittedly I've only seen him play a few games and he seems at times he has potential to be a very good player but his price seems a little inflated for a player who has a lot to prove with little first team experience.

Aspas - I am quite keen to see how he fares. He has excelled in the past two seasons and whilst one of them was in the Spanish second division he was a prolific scorer and continued his form in La Liga. I think he could be a useful player.

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23 Jun 2013 22:04:49
3 players in and its not even july. is this really the same Liverpool :P

Keep It Up :)

Southern Red

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Ikr! there were a lot of times in the past few seasons where all the teams were bringing in players pre-July and I was wondering why we weren't doing that. I think last summer was a lesson for all of us and credit to BR for learning from it and I think we may have some more coming in before the window opens (mignolet, micky?)

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We're going to run out of things to talk about!

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I doubt it Square tomato, I think we've still got a lot of work coming in regards to the defense. Probably dependant on who goes but it should still provide the media with enough bs, plus this suarez affair will drag out

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Never fear Square tomato, there is always the players we didn't get!

Andy K

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23 Jun 2013 22:02:22
Evening eds, great site, I'm a huge Suarez fan and would be devasted to see him go but I think similar to modric last year Madrid are the ones pulling the strings with Suarez being so vocal about pushing for a move. Would love to see somebody come the other way, but think it will be cash only. With aspas, toure, Alberto already signed and mignolet looking likely, the squad depth has been deepend in key areas already and would love 2/3 class players signed with the Suarez cash. At the price quoted by the papers of 5m are we interested in Darren bent? Surely given the chances he's 20 goals a season, even after missing 20 sitters inbetween! That would still give a very healthy kitty to add a couple more.
Even though we are some way off the top 3, I'm very excited by what Rodgers is trying to build.
Matt2836

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23 Jun 2013 21:54:19
The writing looks on the wall re Suarez. Two new forwards in already, looks like we are planning for life without him.

Despite all the words about competition Reina looks gone too. Nobody buys a £10m reserve keeper.

I see it like this

Reina out. £10m. Mignolet in £10m

Carroll out £15m. Aspas and Alberto in £15m

Skrtel and Coates out £15m. Two CBs in £15m. (Llori is one)

Spearing and Shelvey out £ 10m. Wanyama in £15m

Suarez out £45m. Mkhitaryan in £22m

Still with cash over to see what can be done late in the window.

Not a bad window, but I would like another established quality player in with the left over cash from Suarez.

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Good post . what a was finking
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Seems about right except for Wanyama. Would love for us to go for him, and at a good price too, but ddon't think we're in for him. Don't know where Reina could go because of Valdes staying and atl. madrid loaning courtois. Napoli might be an option because of Rafa but I'm just guessing.

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I Suarez stays I think we will have a good window. If we lose him then no matter what we do we will have a worse team than last year and will not improve on 7th

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I recall we spent a record fee on Chris Kirkland a decade ago - and he was a reserve, so we do have history in this respect.

Funny also how Reina has changed his tune in the media.

He must be crapping himself now that Barca and Atletico have their 'keepers sorted for next season and he has an expensive contender for his place seemingly about to join.

I think Reina thought he could do 'better' than us - now he might realise that his career could go down the pan, and that there are few bigger clubs than LFC.

I only wish that I knew Mignolet was a good signing -

I honestly don't know enough about his game to judge. I never seemed to notice him v Sunderland, maybe that's a good thing though.

If I'm honest, I would prefer to keep both. Reina had been very good over the past few months of the season, looking almost like his old (world-class) self.

On that form there are few better 'keepers.

I can't see where Pepe would go from here. Arsenal?

All of that said, Pepe had suffered a major decline since Rafa left - Is his return to form permanent?

The competition should bring out the best in both men, and keeping both would be ideal in my view - but I suspect we will look to offload Reina.

Would Mignolet really join us to play 2nd fiddle to Pepe in a world cup year?

BJH YNWA

ps - a bit of a ramble there, just a few thoughts - can anyone assure me that Mignolet is brilliant btw - and I don't mean by 'shots saved' stats. Is he commanding, good dealing with crosses, is he brave, is he good one on one?

It took years of dross before Pepe arrived. I hope BR lands us a gem - he has earned my trust for being so right about Sturridge. I hope he is as right about Mignolet.

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23 Jun 2013 22:01:16
Don't want to be skeptical but we seem to be buying lots of mid-range, fairly unproven players. This is either going to be the greatest set of signings and the start of great things or more bruno cheyrous and a massive squad of not very good players. let's just hope they all look as good as Coutinho!

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23 Jun 2013 21:56:07
Gus poyet in the studio for spain v nigeria I wonder does he no brighton sacked him LoL Jon96

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23 Jun 2013 21:49:05
Coady scored for England U20's today, just to inform you all.

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23 Jun 2013 21:47:22
Who do you expect to be next through the door at Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - ICAQAT.}

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23 Jun 2013 21:39:33
Tony Barret(times) saying that mignolet to have a midical on tuesday. He is usualy bang on. Good signing imo.

Ynwa

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23 Jun 2013 21:35:27
Makes me laugh people slagging off luis Alberto before he's even kicked a ball! Note how much the mancs paid for Zaha who also played in the second tier and who's end product is questionable at best. Give the lad a chance, but for Barca being a bit short after spunking all that cash on Neymar Luis would probably have been signed by them.

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You are right, my friend. There is too much energy being wasted on this site. Some people don't even read the posts, they just scan them to enable their own need to ridicule others. Every signing has risks attached to it. Football is played 11 v 11 for 90 minutes. Price tags and salaries do not impact the score, performances do.

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I was talking to some Spanish friends of mine who agree. they're sure Barca were interested, but given their financial budget and the players they already have in that position they decided not to take up their option.

The think we've signed a good player, but they said his lack of pace could be a concern.

Raoul

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23 Jun 2013 21:22:58
Christian benteke is a definate target, not at the price villa are talking but he is of serious interest.Gabriel agbonlahor believes benteke is staying at villa for atleast another year with an improved contract mind!
Andy mac

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23 Jun 2013 21:06:03
Not Liverpool related but still banter.

Gus Poyet should never work as a pundit on BBC ever again.

He has only found out he has been dismissed as Manager of Brighton & Hove Albion LIVE on BBC.

Instead of focusing on the Nigeria v Spain, they decided it best to discuss his sacking openly, which is not only distasteful and unprofessional but also very disrespectful.

He should have been taking aside and informed in a delicate and private manner instead of airing his "Dirty laundry" for him; and for all to see his dirty boxers lol.

A bit disgusting from the BBC really.

SR (StrabaneRed)

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What?

Puzzled

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23 Jun 2013 22:07:02
They did tell him off air first, I would assume he gave his permission to discuss it on air.

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Behave - Brighton should be brought to book by the authorities for treating any employee in that way, be it the tea lady, the kit man or the manager - decency, and protocol should be followed, and Brighton certainly haven't done that.

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I though Gus showed extreme professionalism to carry on the way he did after being told he was sacked on telly .

If its true that he found out from the BBC, then its his club which is disgusting and Gus will have good ground for legal case and big compensation .

Roy

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Yep, Brighton thought it would be funny to fax the BBC whilst Gus was on as a pundit and have the BBC humiliate him on live television by interrogating him about it at half time. Instead of discussing the Nigeria v Spain game.

Very disgraceful from both Brighton and the BBC in my opinion. it should have been handled in a private manner.

SR (StrabaneRed)

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"They did tell him off air first, I would assume he gave his permission to discuss it on air."

Actually, I don't think they did.

The presenter showed Gus Poyet the letter/fax of what Brighton wrote regarding Poyets future a mere 1 or 2 minutes before the end of the first half.

The MOTD presenter said so himself, with no mention to us viewers that "Of course we've asked Gus".

Gus himself couldn't put it into words due to the language barrier but basically said it was unprofessional for the BBC to question him about it live. That's a pretty accurate description of what happened; So I don't think Gus told them "It would be alright to question me about it live".

SR (StrabaneRed)

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Totally agree with you Roy.

SR (StrabaneRed)

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I agree he should have been told of air. very distasteful from bbc, but i'm not shocked those persons did it. I felt awful for gus.

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23 Jun 2013 21:18:23
Ed's and fellow long term readers of this website. I have been getting on my high horse of late and bemoaning the trolls etc and wanting Ed 001 to review his objectives of setting up this website. Of late it is either genuine banter, w***ers sounding off or the likes of us moaning about it. Over the years the Ed's have added sub menus on the left of the screen. I, as many others, want a resolution to the tripe that inflicts itself upon the Ed's, so can I please suggest that we have rumours (where we all look for real info and possible truths), banter (for general gossip and realistic sharing of opinions) and then another sector for the vulgar of the earth that put this site into jeopardy. Great idea, but do you know what guys, I reckon being the twisted freaks we can be that that would the most visited page when there are no transfers going on as we like to give us good as we get especially when we feel one of our own is betraying the family.
Anyway just an idea and please Ed 002 don't give up on us faithful readers. There are so many readers that very rarely post as we have have nothing worthwhile to contribute or don't want to add to your woes, but do genuinely love visiting this site many times a day and value your input.
Keep up the good work and and you never know things may get easier when the transfer window opens!!!

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As the Eds know - there is nowt the genuine readers/posters can do about the kids and persons who post abuse on the site - therefore they will keep the site going or close it down at THEIR discretion

Puzzled

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23 Jun 2013 22:31:00
There is a far better solution, just don't publish any crap that the trolls send in. A short reply to everyone via email to them, warning them that if they make any more offensive comments the police will be informed. end of!

That should whittle down the brain dead numpties, who scroll the internet trying to be smart apses

ps Great work Eds. keep it up

Tel 1949

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23 Jun 2013 21:16:13
loosing suarez is a huge blow. imo coutinho will be the replacement. mkhitaryan will be the player coming through from midfield. sturridge in from the start of the season, 20 goals well within his reach. aspas and alberto are ok signings, good squad players. alberto is replacing shelvey. alberto has 11 goals in 35 games with 17 assists, incredible. thiago has 3 goals in 2 seasons, thiago is 22 also so if he was that good he would be playing more than barca b football at that age.
but I think we need another seasoned forward, not saying it should be lamela, but someone of that level. would love alonso in suarez deal, stevie and alonso with lucas and allen as backup. a powerful cb and we are off and running.
i said it before, a good start is half the battle. a lot of new managers in also, I think we could see a few surprises in pl next season. pl is very weak at the moment, what's the odds no pl team will reach qf in cl again. for that reason I think we have an chance to progress along with the improvement in our squad.
player by player we are improving.

B O H

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Agree 100%. while it fantastic to see us signing some newblood, they are all squad players, no one that you can honestly say would walk into the first team & command a place, definatly need a new centre back, midfield & if Surez leaves a goalscoring replacement, but players that will go straight into the team.
Canadian Red

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23 Jun 2013 21:11:14
Pepe Reina. Class act!

If only Saurez showed the club the same respect.

If Pepe does leave this summer I wish him all the best and thank him for his loyal service.

Aggers Left Boot

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Completely agree, how can some of the posters complain about Reina if he does leave, 8 years of great service to the club, could have left years ago but stayed due to a love for the club. Top guy. {Ed001's Note - he stayed due to being unable to agree personal terms with Arsenal.}

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Hes been courting barca athletico arsenal( who he frollicked with b4) . the " if a bigger club comes in quote", agger is d one u should call d class act. I hope reina goes
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What season was that and how much did they offer?

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23 Jun 2013 20:41:09
Eds what price would someone have to
Pay for zouma?

Basy {Ed002's Note - Less than Alderweireld.}

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23 Jun 2013 20:54:35
Iago aspas has been officially confirmed as a Liverpool player.

ACHILLES.

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23 Jun 2013 20:54:17
Well done conor coady for leadin england under 20 to a win and scorin

Basy

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England only drew the game .

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But they drew.

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Sorry, but they drew 2-2!

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Think you jinxed them mate . Lol
YNWA
Jamesy

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England faded badly last 15 mins, ran out of ideas and lost all shape, game should have been won in first half,
thought Conor Coady had a very good game, but they looked a lot like the under 21s, lacking that bit of class, and not improving .
redforever

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23 Jun 2013 22:52:46
Sorry lads I think I did jynx it
Lol

Basy

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A Draw is victory for England
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23 Jun 2013 20:15:33
Ed01 or any of the other Liverpool supporting eds say we miss out on top 4 but are extremely close like Tottenham last season do you think brendon deserves to get sacked? If we make progress I think it would disastrous to yet again start again! Rodgers I think is a quality manager and if we make clear progress he should atleast have another season.

What do you think?

London red {Ed030's Note - No,I think he should get at least another 2 season. }

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Think we should see how the season goes 1st lol

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Totally agree. keep him in. We can't afford another year of rebuilding and the like

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In order to get in, Liverpool will need to be consistent and to beat out one of the current top 4 along with Spurs, Everton and whomever else makes a push. If we are close, we will have had a better season than last. You can't change managers every year just because you didn't like your place in the standings. As long as there is progression Rodgers should stay.

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If there is a long term plan he needs to stay for a few seasons.

Personally I think we will be further behind the current top 4 come end of next season.

With the money they have and the quality they can attract we just cannot compete anymore.

If we do find a good player they want to leave within a few years as no CL.

BR should not be expected to form a top 4 side on the current budget.

Once we lose Suarez our side will be even weaker and as good as Aspas might be he is not in the same class.

We need another 3/4 years of rebuilding IMO and allow the youth to come through.

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23 Jun 2013 23:58:14
For me if Rodgers doesn't achieve the targerts set by owners and the money he has spent compare to a lot of teams, he needs to go simple as that, this is footy not a training center but LIVERPOOL FC

Kopite

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24 Jun 2013 00:00:32
Personally you think? And who are you no name poster? Just for future reference!
I think we will be a lot closer and so does any one who understands football. You clearly don't hence you not signing a name. Trolling hours.

[The only REDS]

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Tbh even if we finished 6th next season I would love to see BR stay on. He looks like a man who knows what he's doing. We would be going back to square one if we got rid of him. Unless we get a manager who goes by the same system and thinking of Rodgers, it would be starting all over again. We bullied teams last season and were it not for that bad start, we would have been a lot closer to the top 4. He is a very convincing character and I hope FSG realise that for the long-term, two seasons isn't enough to deliver long-term success. The foundations are set, now we have to build on it. As long as we improve next season I will be happy. Maybe a cup run and competing for top 4. That would do me. Cheers.
ROI.

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{Ed030's Note - No, I think he should get at least another 2 season. }

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It depends where we finish Ed30 don't you think . If we finish in the top 4 then well done to him, he would've done a fantastic Job, if we finish outside the top 6, then he should be sacked no 2 ways about it.

Roy

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24 Jun 2013 17:22:26
Yeah I agree. Do you think he will get sacked if we just miss it? Ed 2 I think said he will be likely to get the sack if he don't. Do you think he will?

London red

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23 Jun 2013 20:42:14
why are a lot of LFC fans on hear so down on our new signings and prospective signings?
can't you all see that a lot of these are being bought to fill out the squad, as the backup for the last 3 seasons has been poor! there will be a big signing at some point but the window isn't even open yet so let's not get so impatient as its vital that we get this signing spot on.
i for one am very pleased with the type of players that are being bought in and remember that we got two vital first teamers for now and the future in Jan and the owners put good money in but held firm and got great prices!
This shows that the club has learnt the lessons from the early windows under fsg. So be patient and enjoy the fact that LFC will be a more well rounded and balanced squad for next season.

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23 Jun 2013 20:38:59
Why do people get so touchy on this site. At the end of the day even if it is right or wrong everyone will have different opinions on players. If you believe pacheco is going to be the next messi go for it!

People who are putting Alberto down such as Ozone have the right to have that opinion on him. Although I would like to say players like fabregas don't have lightning pace but that doesn't stop him being a star. He passes, moves, creates space and scores a few goals. no reason Alberto couldn't do a similar job in the future IMO.

Danny

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23 Jun 2013 20:38:07
Aspas deal completed
In your face bitter trolls

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23 Jun 2013 20:24:49
Welcome to LFC Iago Aspas.

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Glad it's been sorted out, good news, welcome to LFC.

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Welcome to LFC!

The real AG

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23 Jun 2013 19:58:33
I am interested in what other fans might think about signings, if I wasn't I wouldn't be a visitor to the site.But I haven't got anytime for fans who slate players before seeing them.How can you justify picking holes in a 20yr old who has just played a whole season in La liga's 2nd division, scoring 11 goals and making 17 assist.He will replace Shelvey in the squad, who last season showed that he wasn't ready for the challenge.Alberto has been picked because he's shown the qualities Brendan wants, an attacking midfielder who can play as a striker, who makes chances for others and chips in with goals.He also might not be able to adapt to stepping up, but I will at least give the lad a chance.

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100% agree. Much improved scouting department has been working hard this year and I believe the committee based choices for targets will ensure more focused and astute signings.

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23 Jun 2013 19:43:32
Anybody else watching our boys for England u20? I will be honest England are not that good I'm afraid COADY is very composed keeping everything ticking in midfield not put a foot wrong and FLANAGAN needs to be loaned out next season.

AS i'm WRITING THIS OUT COADYS JUST SCORED LOL.

ACHILLES.

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23 Jun 2013 19:43:13
Nice goal by Coady, hope him and Flanagan get a lot from this tournament!

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23 Jun 2013 19:58:19
Hi eds are we in for strongman or de vrijs both would b quality additions

Daniellambretta

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Lol i'm guessing you mean strootman?

Danny

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23 Jun 2013 20:52:21
Who the hell is strongman? Do you mean strootman?

ACHILLES.

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23 Jun 2013 19:54:00
I personally like BR's ideas. I was quite critical last year but am willing to get right behind him and support. I think one of the biggest problems why our players don't perform at times is due to these negative posts people put up. I don't mean just on here but anywhere. Youngsters need time to develop. Everyone clicks at different times and need positive support from fans. BR and his team obviously see potential in these guys. I'd much rather have a team that can compete for the next 10 - 20 years rather than win the league once and players are then to old. I think these players coming in are going to be the future alongside Ibe, Sterling, Suso, L Jones, Wisdom, Kelly, Sturridge, Flanaghan. If we as fans think positively then it may help the squad to go and do what we all want them to do and that's win the EPL. Get behind our boys!

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23 Jun 2013 19:44:18
Hey Ed's. I've read that Liverpool have met Tellos release clause but the player wants to stay, any truths in that?

And do u think Liverpool will sell Suarez for under 50£?

YNWA

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23 Jun 2013 19:37:24
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that there may have been a few porkies floating around with regard to Brendan's alleged summer transfer budget? With the targets being linked and the quantity of players being talked about/signed already, regardless of players leaving (Suarez in particular obviously), it seems that maybe it was a bit of a ruse to not be in a position where we were being quoted massively over-inflated prices on potential signings. Good strategy if that is the case, because it was a fairly well publicised figure being touted. Just a thought.

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The sales are coming to balance things mate.

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Were roughly 8m net at moment with 20 to 25 budget i'd say we are were they said
mayhem 1981

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We haven't signed or officially bid on either £18m CB Papa or £25m Mkhitaryan. This is press not real.
What has be signed or as complete as poss before July including GK as it seems nailed. Fees not including agents and tax etc.
Toure - free but say £3m
Aspas - £7.7m
Alberto - £6.8m
Mignolet - £9m
Total - £26.5m
Budget quoted £20m in papers and add £15.5 Carroll sale

There are loads of extras in the transfers that cost as Eds have advised. so maybe £5m left for Astu or Ilori then it's sales to fund.
IMO
Carlos

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23 Jun 2013 19:36:08
Listening to Ozone, disney and the like we all might as well stop supporting LFC and find a top 4 side to start supporting. I guess they are frustrated by our development, but I seem to remember that we have not been challenging for the prem for 20 years now. While I would like to hark to the good old days, we have to accept that we are not a top tier team and have to shop in the second tier for players hence Alberto and Aspas and god I hope not Atsu.

But, and its a big but, what do you really expect, other teams on our level, i.e southampton have tried buying the odd superstar, ramirez, ruiz, etc, some pay off in terms of contribution to the team but they have not catapulted those teams into the echelons of the EPL now have they. They just don't have the funds to buy a whole team of world stars ala Man city and chelsea and we do not either.

Dont you think maybe rogers has seen this and is maybe trying a new model for LFC. Buying young potential, and building competition for places to improve performances on the pitch. A certain mr ferguson has done this with some degree of success. This model may turn out to be foolhardy in todays trillionaire owner scenario, but like many posters who agree with the opinions of ozone and disney etc do so on the grounds of they are sticking to their belief and opinion. So why cannot we afford brendan the same backing?

Maybe it goes all tits up and he is sacked next season, but we have been there before. We will keep rebuilding until we hit the right formula and go shooting to the top again, but until then I don't see the point of raising my blood pressure based on who rodgers is targeting. We have made poor signings in the past and will make them in the future, you show me a manager on this planet that has not?

I have posted before regarding my take on our targets, I don't think i'm being rose tinted in believing we will have a good season (albeit still missing out on top 4) playing some exciting football. At my time of life that's all I can hope for and would be pretty satisfied with that as long as we are giving it our best shot every game.

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Nice balanced post fattie, but I do tend to wonder the obsession with youngsters. This will lead to plenty of ours not getting a chance and leaving ala Ince.

I also think we could aim a little higher with some of our signings. We need more quality in our first X1 not squad players. Mertens as one example for a fraction more than Alberto and Aspas? Yes we can't buy everyone but common. I hope we seriously are interested in Wanyama.

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Spot on. All the realistic, rational Liverpool fans (and the owners) need to see, is progress being made, not an instant return to winning the premiership, but progress. I think most people can see that so far, that it is, and if Brendan can show it again next season I think FSG will continue to back him and give him the support he needs. It's not a dissimilar situation to the one the Red sox were in when FSG took over, which is one of the reasons they took the challenge on.

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Well posted mate. the one thing I had to laugh at was ozone slating llori and alberto however listed atsu on his wanted signings for the summer. there is no hope he would walk into our team and make a difference! Do I think Rodgers can win the league using this philosophy? Yes! Do I think it will take time however? Most certainly. If you think to next season though our summer in my opinion will be one of two things.

1) we finish outside the top 4 and will most likely look to add 1 or 2 big signings and a few more of these 7 million punts people seem to be soo fond of.
2) however if we some how qualify for the champions league I think we will be going for 3-4 of the big signings wherever we have obvious shortcomings as of next year and then replace any body who leaves

By this method obviously on the assumption that the signings work we could be in a handsome position in 2-3 years and I for one am looking forward to hopefully watching the rise of this team to (hopefully) the top! Well that's my 2 pence on it!

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I regard Gerrard, Suarez, Coutinho, Agger, Sturridge, Lucas and Johnson as Superstars/Top Quality players.
We just need a totally focused Goalkeeper with a touch of Class "Mignolet" and a top Class Centre Back?
I'm sure if it wasn't for his fitness issues? The money would be down and it would be Papa the Greek.
Perhaps and hopefully it still will be.

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Dont get me wrong fensh, I don't totally buy into the type of players brendan has bought and is targeting, but I do see why and recognise the progress we have made. I also agree with Kids assessment of the squad and what we need. But there is no point in me tearing my hair out about it (not that I have any) and just hope they by and large turn out good in the long run.

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Ozone sounds like a chelsea fan lately I think you have rubbed off on him too much ed02 any chance of your top four prediction 02 others welcome thanks
mayhem 1981 {Ed002's Note - My crystal ball tells me (1) Manchester City; (2) Chelsea; (3) Arsenal; (4) Manchester United (beating Liverpool in to the Europa spot by one goal after Liverpool has four points deducted for playing an illegal player - after Mkhitaryan fails a gender test). I am normally pretty good on these things.}

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Also, I don't think Disney will be too upset if we are unsuccessful.

Andy K

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Ed make it more specific next time please, Thanks!

RobInRed

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23 Jun 2013 19:24:01
Hi Eds and fellow Reds, I don't think Lucas is half the player he was prior to his injuries. This leads me to wonder if BR is looking to strengthen that area of the pitch? Would Witsel be an option to come in and general the midfield or is he not even being looked at? Also why are we loading that midfield positions? If Suarez is leaving should we not be looking at another striker to come in to play along side Sturridge? Or is that what we going to be using Aspas for should he sign?

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I think a good pre season is vital to him and us
mayhem 1981

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23 Jun 2013 21:05:04
Hi unnamed poster.

Can I ask you how can you say lucas is half the player he was before his injury. Look at stats with nd without lucas for this year nd then come back nd say same. lucas does stuff which goes unnoticed and his position has always been underrated. witsel is very dirty player nd is well known his ridiculous tackles nd I would say his timing is worse then lee cattermole. Watch his tackle on you tube nd tell me he is any worth buy.
Harry Oldbury

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To be fair, Lucas had a very serious injury, and having a break now and I agree, a good pre-season will get back up to speed .
redforever

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23 Jun 2013 19:23:15
People who criticise our signings before they have seen them play are probably supporters of other teams trying to get a rise out of everyone because they have nothing better to do with there life

James

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I agree don't slate the players, but concerns can and should be raised if there are any.

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Can you imagine how boring it must be not supporting us we are linked to someone new nearly every other day
mayhem 1981

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23 Jun 2013 19:22:57
Rodgers saying he is confident about Suarez situation! I think he knows he will leave and is making these comments to show Liverpool are playing hard ball and try and draw a bid for him sooner rather than later so we can get on with life after him and getting a replacement. For me I would have Torres back all day long. Ideally Suarez to come out and say he is staying at the MIGHTY REDS though! YNWA Come on LIVERPOOL

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All this Torres nonsense. If we did actually want him, would he even come back at half his Chelsea wages? Do people not realize he has lost a yard and is no longer the player we had?

Drives me nuts.

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You obviously didn't go to many away games when Torres was in his last season at Lfc.
He was a Disgrace! and just strolled through games and only got away with it because Roy Hodgson was under pressure and didn't have the balls to drag him off and sideline the cheat!

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What's people obsession with Torres?! I'm not being funny but I started getting proper into football in his last season with us (always been a Liverpool supporter just never watched it) and he was awful! He looked like a spoilt little brat who put no effort in then I saw suarez next season a couldn't believe the difference.

Torres may have been good but he is now crap! He ain't coming back (thank god can't watch his laziness on the pitch) so just drop it.

London red

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Torres found his level the other day, against opposition like taihiti.
Not the player he was, never will be.

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Didnt carragher say that he essentially downed tools, and that's coming from someone who played with him. Not worth wasting time writing about such nonsense. Oh, I just did!

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23 Jun 2013 19:15:39
I think we should snap up honda on a free I no its not till jan but he is some machine with a great engine can also go tru the gears with ease a bit of humour for a change but all joken aside he is quality if only JON96

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Think we can only get him on a pre till jan when his contract runs out
mayhem 1981

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23 Jun 2013 19:14:36
This website has become absolutely exhausting. The only people who contribute anything worthwhile are the Ed's, Nevada, 5 gold stars and Chris in Tamworth, plus a select few others. It's mostly been taken over by fans (questionable use of that word), either slagging off the owners, current players, new signings, new potential signings or asking the same daft questions over and over again.

It's completely devout of any banter or any real rumours/inside info anymore, which is sad given how enjoyable it used to be.

I don't claim to the greatest contributor, but I've always tried inject some positivity and a thought process to our current players, owners and potential signings.

Ed02 has been discussing shutting down the site. Personally despite the fact I'd miss it, it may be the wisest thing to do, if only for us to all be spared the ranting and ravings of Waro and Ozone. Plua Jonesred's ridiculous list of potential signings.

I just don't understand why fans, cannot discuss things rationally with a view of providing support. I'm not making bold statements about about never using the site, as It really doesn't matter either way. I just hope given time, that the site gets back to the enjoyable old days, which sadly seem lost.

Papa G {Ed002's Note - It was not a matter of shutting down the site, but the editors and the decent posters are sick of the abuse and the rubbish. We will have to start cutting all repeated questions etc..}

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23 Jun 2013 19:34:49
Count me In.
I have never ever abused anyone here. anyone.
but I have been constantly ripped by my fellow frndz.
I have become another suarez.

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Good to hear. I know and respect how much work you do and how far it's come since the original site, Ed01 setup all those years ago.

Appreciate the feedback.

Papa G

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As long as the posts are not abusive then everyones entitled to their opinion, even waro and ozone! Got to agree the repeat questions get very tiresome for us nevermind the eds.

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As a regular reader and sometime poster, I have to nail my colours to papa Gs post folks.

I have tried to explain on several occasions how this business needs to be run with mixed responses exactly down the line of this post.
I am a business consultant, I work with banks, financiers and large compAnies. I have 25 years experience.

This club is being run as a business. Over a number of years the owners are trying to get us into profit, build on fixed assets such as the ground and build a true value in players.

If they are allowed to do this, there is a chance for success. Why?
1. We will have a sound financial base to start to speculate, sometimes borrowing for quality because we know we have receipts coming in to pay off debt.
2. We will have a strong squad fighting to keep its place. There are prime examples in Liverpool such as Reina and Skirtel where lack of competition has beem detrimental
3. We will have an internstional brand which builds more revenue hence more speculation.
4. Add this together we could get 4th i.e. more money, more speculation and the cycle goes on.
5. This is then a model that can attract bigger sponsorship, bigger investment and here we are.


You see folks this is how business works. Do not get us mixed up with play thing clubs such as Man city or Chelsea where their success i'd conditionsl on the whims of a billionaire owner.

Support our team, they deserve no less

Dave Hall (davehall273)

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Papa g don't despair!
it gets like this in the close season, all we have to go on is speculation and guesswork!
so the trolls have there opportunity to wind us and the ed`s up.
once window opens for real 1st july. the posts and banter will improve, hopefully not at our exspence. other teams fans have been having lots of fun because of our recent buys, no need to name any, we all have our views on who. lol
I've been reading posts on this site for years, so I kinda know who to read and who to just scroll by.
the ed`s know what is best to do for there site, what ever they do i`ll support them. just like my Liverpool fc.
and it really is one of the best sites out there in the madness of this crazy internet thing!
only my opinion tho.
dbadger.

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A good reflection of how things are these days Papa. But I think the repeat posts and the ridiculous questions will mostly go away once the School Hols are over (or is it over already?).

The real AG

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Great post if i'm honest eds I wish you would cut the repeated posts I know I must be annoying with the abuse but we all appreciate it!

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Papa G, didn't I make a reply to you last week when you slagged off Reina for his decline over the last few seasons?

You're a hypocrite!

I'm just kidding :-P

I would hate to see this site shutdown; but you have to admit that people like Waro and Ozone make this site what it is as well.

Without negativity there is no room for constructivism; as everyone would be ignorant happy as Larry's :)

Without constructive criticism/negativity, we wouldn't be allowed to/couldn't point out the flaws within the club and correct them.

Our opinions matter to the club more than we think, otherwise we'd still have Roy Hodgson, Christian Poulson and Andy Carroll at the club.

It's discontent and negative thinking that prompts changes and that all equates to being constructive, so the next time we have a bad result and you have to read who's fault it was and what should be done, just embrace it.

SR (StrabaneRed)

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It is supposed to be a banter page not total abuse. keep Up the good work Ed's you are only passing on info on what you believe is true.

Ynwa

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I'm not aimlessly kissing FSG, BR and all players arses. I'm all for constructive evaluations of players and I gave mine, that Reina has been poor for the best part of two years. I'm very pro for the long service he's provided, but I'm not blinded by the fact we needed a change.

Go re-read my post/posts if you have to SR, before being completely disrespectful to what I write.

My main point is the pointless repetition and questions. Also the constant negativity towards new signings. None of you are scouts, or work professionally in the game. BR, the coaches and players deserve some respect, especially before they've kicked a sodding football.

Papa G

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That said SR, I've just re-read your post and will take back most of what I've aimed at you. None of this is personal, just don't see the need for constant negativity. Surely that defeats the object of supporting something.

Papa G

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Thank you papa . listen not to quote madonna. but u preach son u preach! I suppose we can't see who is posting, like age sense etc. simply got to ignore as best u canon some posts . its a free 4 all at times m8
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I'm sorry you've somewhat misconstrued my point of view Papa G.

I wasn't being disrespectful of what you wrote at all, nor was it intended that way.

I agreed with you about Reina in the post I referred to, I was making a point that what you wrote was both a negative opinion of him, but it was for the greater good of constructivism (Or constructiveness?) for Liverpools progression.

(I also didn't mean you were a hypocrite, that was lighthearted as you posted about negative posts :P)

I agree with your OP about abuse of the Eds and in general people spewing vitriol at other posters and all that, but Ozone and Waro are regular posters who's opinions we should respect even if it is negative and we disagree.

I'd like to put in other words the point I was trying to make in my reply to this post.

People need to be negative in life to be able to see/address issues.

If a player just isn't good enough, it needs to be known, so it can be addressed and a better player comes in.

Brendan Rodgers himself must have a negative side to him to correct what is wrong with the club, with regards to how he can change things for the better.

He looked at Carroll in training and instantly said "Crap", that's negative, but it's also needed.

Negativity should be embraced, not ignored.

SR (StrabaneRed)

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PS: And yes the repetitive questions are annoying as hell, but hopefully the Eds can and will do something to minimize the amount of duplicate questions (That get answered) that get posted on here.

Like I think one of them suggested to you.

SR (StrabaneRed) {Ed002's Note - Seemingly not - I am now being abused for not answering the repetitive questions.}

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I've just seen that Ed002, and made a comment.

Ignore it (Abuse).

If you answer or argue against the people mouthing off, they'll just continue to do so.

They have nothing better to do than to troll the internet.

You could always try blacklisting their IP Addresses from the site!

SR (StrabaneRed)

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23 jun 2013 19:09:21
notice to visitors!

please do not feed the trolls

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23 Jun 2013 19:05:01
Barca B stats:

Aberto scored 11 goals in 36 apps.
Thiago scored 3 goals in 59 apps.

Alberto was not always played as a sriker in these games. Now we got him for 6mill and it looks united paying 17.5 mill for Thiago.

Lets see how the lad does for us before any persons say bad buy.

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Spot on mate I totally agree.You don't score 11 goals and make 17 assist at such a young age if you haven't got something about you.I think he's replacing Shelvey in the squad to be honest.So we will see how he does.It doesn't make sense to slate player before seeing them.

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Alberto is a forward, Thiago sits in front of the back four dictating games. It's like comparing Joe Allen or Lucas Leiva to Mkhitaryan.

Disney!

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I'm all up for giving this lad a chance, but if we had the cash and the pull, everyone would choose tiago

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No he doesn't Disney, he plays in the exact same position.

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Sure every time I have seen Thiago he plays like Iniesta as an AM not further back dictating play like Xavi? Hence the no of goals he scores.

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Utd can afford to spend 17 million on players and get it wrong.We can't. That's why you are successful and were struggling to get in the top 6.The thing is We actually started to play well from January, good attacking football and as a season ticket holder I was happy with what I seen.I think it bothers you Disney, because your team no longer entertain your fans. They're are efficient and grind out wins.You're buying defensive midfielders.Rodgers is buying attacking midfielders. You jealous.

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Thiago was/is a long term replacement for Xavi. He is of course able to play as an attacking midfielder. He is very talented. But his preferred position and where Barcelona earmarked him for was to replace Xavi. I hope MU get him, but I will take nothing for granted.

Ahh Jiminy Cricket, if that is indeed your real name. I am pretty happy when watching my team, especially watching them lift the title (again). I think a more defensive midfielder or two is exactly what we need to go with our exceptional attack.

Disney!

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Wayne rooney nani and ashley young exceptional, rose tinted glasses disney

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Woudn't Busquets be the equivelent of Leiva in the Barca set up and Xavi the Stevie G last year?

Andy K

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From videos, Alberto seems very technical and stronger than he looks. the knock on him is his lack of speed. but 11 goals and 17 assists is impressive

Barca fans wanted the club to sign him permanently from Sevilla but their first team is loaded with similar players. even Deulofeu is having doubts about his future as Neymar has arrived, Tello wants to stay, and another big addition is expected to replace Villa

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23 Jun 2013 18:59:29
I clearly don't understand this football transfer business, I mean it should be like selling a car:

"hello I'd like to buy your car"
"I want £1000 cash"
"I'll give you £700 and a packet of quavers?"
"make it £800 and some skips and it's yours"
"ok"

Deal done in a few minutes :-D

Speaking to the player:

"would you like to earn £10k a week?"
"yes please"

Sorted

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It's never as Black and White or as simple as that.
Some years ago, I bought a 2nd hand car and thought I was getting a bargain?
Turned out, it had been in an accident and had a dodgy Mot.

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Love it! Maybe work something more like that if it wasn't for the money grabbing bl***y agents.

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Must have been a Ford Kewell :-)

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Why have the agents? What if the world of football turned they're backs on players with agents?

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Very good Fitzy.

Andy K

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23 Jun 2013 18:30:20
what the story with jackson martinez, thought he went to russia or something and now villa boas is quoted saying he doesn't want him? Could we be looking at him like reported a while back? {Ed002's Note - Porto are prepared to cash in on Jackson Martinez with interest from Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, Manchester City, Spurs, Galatasaray, Juventus and Barcelona. However, Porto will seek his full release clause of 40M euro but would likely need to settle for less. Two bids from Juventus were turned down.}

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23 Jun 2013 18:28:58
Alberto was loaned to Barcelona B from Sevilla. Barcelona had the option to make that loan permensnt but decided against it. The lads all right foot. He's built like Ngog and will in no doubt prove to be as effective as Ngog. He's not pacey, he started out as a winger and has been moved to a more central role probably because as he's matured his build no longer suits that of a winger. He won't possess that natural centre of gravity which allows you to drop either shoulder to suit in the central role as he's learnt his trade as a winger but he's now to tall and slow to be a winger. Guaranteed bad buy, mark my words. Another waste of £7mill.

Ozone

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Wow, Ozone wish there were more hols in you now

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And you regularly watched Barca B games last year did you? Why do people feel the need to slate players before they've even played!

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If this is your comment on a player of your own, I hate to see what you opinion on other teams players are. give him a chance first.

btw happy nationaldepressionsuicidal day.


ynwa terry

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Coutinho, Suso and Sterling are all "built like Ngog". Tell me Ozone, do you think they are crap too?

The real AG

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So he Scored 11 goals and made 17 assist in la liga 2nd division and you are slating him and calling him slow.He must have a brain to see a pass or a steady right foot to slot 11 goals from midfield.Give the lad a chance to show whether he can do it for us, before slating him.

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Any chance we can see him play first? What's with all the negativity? Last season Brendan bought, Allen (good start, then playing through injury so form dropped off), Borini, injured for most of the season but has just been included in the U21 tournament all star squad, as players that he knew previously and who he felt would fit in to the tactics/formation he wanted to implement. Then when he got the scouting network sorted at Liverpool he brought in Coutinho and Sturridge, who I seem to recall did all right second half of the season. As for Aspas, and Alberto, is it possible that he/the scouting team/owners etc. have seen something in them because they've carefully watched them and seen qualities in them that might benefit the team? Please at least give them a chance before slating them.

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23 Jun 2013 19:17:49
barcelona b would give a lot of lower teams in the premier league a good game. to score 11 and assist 17 in a season in your first season with a team is in my opinion a real success. you used ngoo as an example. a long rangy player? what about another example in peter crouch and he has been a success in the premier league. I will not mark your words because your just trying to obscure your own failings and take it out on someone you have no idea about. give the lad a chance and see how he does. atleast he will have real fans like myself and the vast majority of people on this site.

ynwa alberto
ynwa Liverpool

Calum Red

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Why did Barca B decide not to make it permanent? Because they didn't feel he's make it into the full team. Why was that? Because he's not as good as Iniesta, Fabregas, Tello, Sanchez, Pedro and other prospects already on the books. Oh, and some guy called Messi. Then again, what team does have players as good as them?

You seem to have judged him on his build and the fact he's 'not too pacey'. Have you seen him play a full match? Have you seen him play at all, apart from clips on Youtube?

Why not give the lad a chance? Or is your word final?

Mr Benn

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Rodgers asked Rodolfo Borello for his opinion on Luis Alberto.
Are you saying he should of asked you?
Would love to put people like you in with the professionals, just to see you get laughed out of there.

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Yes Ozone, but we will sell him for a profit, won't we. After all, that is the Fsg policy according to you.

The Irish Rover

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Suso and sterling were benitez and daglish buys I think, coutinho is a rodgers and commitee buy, I hope ozone is wrong but I don't know anything about him really except that he is spanish and young so he could develop into a good player, I olso know he is now a Liverpool player and was keen to play for us unlike some I am prepared to give him support and not write him or 7 million pounds off yet, support your team and manager is what i'm trying to say that's all .

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My eyes must deceive me then AG, I didn't realise that Coutinhiou, Suso and Sterling are 6 foot 2!

Ozone

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Terry, players come and go. I always support the team on match day but the pubs are full of debates including criticising players after. Suarez is a classic example of why you 'should be in love with the club and not the players'. Quote from Johnny Barnes.

I'll support any player who gives their all for the red shirt irrespective of whether I think they're good or not.

Ozone

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Think everybody has an opinion on how good they think a signing will be, we're all entitled to them but as supporters I think we all want to see the club do well and if someone we criticised being signed turns out to be a cracker then all the better for it lol - i'm not sure of some of the names been banded about but trust that those involved are more knowledegable than me! Just enjoy the banter and come on the pool!

Swallybean

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Mr Benn, I'm merely expressing an opinion. I hope I'm totally wrong.

Ozone

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Give him the chance to put the shirt on before you judge then ozone
mayhem 1981

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Ya, I've seen clips of him score inside the box, outside the box, with his head, from free kicks and set up goals for others. Down with that sort of thing! Booo!

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You say you will support a player who fights for the jersey, yet your already writing off a player before he has had his chance to fight.
- Rookie

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So because he's tall and not big built and not that pacey he can't be a success, the same description could be given of alonso but he did ok over here. Kenny was never the fastest either, the thing is when your playing the system were trying to its about good movement off the ball not necessarily been the fastest, you don't need to be able to and out run a defender if your intelligent enough to drop short and give yourself the time and space to pick out a team mate.

I'm optimistic about all our new lads, roll on next season!

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Whats the point of an opinion when its uneducated? you've never seen him play, let alone ever watched a Barcelona b game.
I don't have an opinion of womens shoes, because I have no clue about them, like you on alberto. give it a rest.

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I hope you are too but what are you basing your opinion on? If it was on having watched the player a number of times, then it might hold some weight. Given that it's based on his build etc., it doesn't really, I'm afraid.

Mr Benn

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So, Ozone, if we buy Mktaryan does your conspiracy theory go out the window about FSG/Rodgers buying only inexperienced, 7-10m, resellable midgets with potential? Or will you just claim him as an exception?

cozinoz

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Just checked and the lads not even 6ft so what's the issue with his height?

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23 Jun 2013 18:26:19
Hi Eds.

There's been talk of the whole loyalty bonus thing that suarez would be entitled to if he doesn't hand in a transfer request. I don't really know how accurate that is. but let's say he decided to skip out on gerrards testimonial or preseason for example.

Would that affect his ability to collect his bonus? i'm assuming he would be busy courting other clubs and being a rebel lol {Ed002's Note - No, it would likely mean a fine (maximum two weeks money) if he fails to return to the club on the due date. I appreciate he has said that he does not intend to train with the club again but I would doubt he would push through with such a threat.}

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Ed he said he doesn't want to train with the club again?! What an arse hole! When does training start?

London red

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Suarez said he does not wish to train with LFC again?

The real AG {Ed002's Note - Right. But Rodgers has said the club is in complete control of the situation. Phew!!}}

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I wouldn't take anything said by BR to the media seriously though Ed002, though I think you already know this.

The real AG

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Sorry but that is utter and total complete lies ed. you have just made that up on the spot, Suarez has said nothing of the sort whatsoever.

Where and when did he say this?

And you wonder why I have a go at you when you make outrageous claims like that. what nonsense. {Ed002's Note - This is what we don't need - Leo the fucking compulsive liar back. Last week you accused me of lying because I told you that Mkhitaryan had not signed. Now you are lying again and making further accusations - what a truly awful example you are for a human being Leo. The Uruguayan radio reported this - and it is in the transcripts - and the Uruguayan press went as far as interviewing Mark Lawrenson about it. Everyone explained yesterday after your foul abuse that you weren't welcome. But out you come again - spitting lies.}

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Ed do you have a link to this anywhere? I would of thought phil on the bbc would of jumped all over this if it were true. {Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you expect a link to.}

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23 Jun 2013 18:12:58
Glad to see that Mignolet has been brought in to challenge Reina and not as his replacement.

We still need to strengthen the defence this summer and would love to see us bring in Lucas Digne and Toby Alderweireld. The two would cost roughly 22 million combined and would add depth and more quality at the back.

Alderweirelds contrat situation makes him cheaper than he would usually be and we must take advantage of that. Digne is a highly promising left back who is still only 18, but looks class.

I still expect Ilori to arrive to replace Coates, and I think the sales of Skrtle and Coates combined would cover the fees for Alderweireld and Digne.

Midfield is one we need to add steel to the middle of the park. For me Lucas is not quite the quality we need. I would really like to see Banega brought in to replace him. Apparently he is available for as little as 8 million. That's a bargain for a player of his calibure. He can pass better than Lucas and he can definitely tackle better than Lucas. If we sold Lucas we can could probably look to get 15 million, which is almost double Banega's fee.

We still expect to see Downing, Assiaidi, Spearing and Shelvey leave, and we ave already brought in Luis Alberto for 7 million. In addition to Alberto I'd like to see Eriksen arrive still.
Again like Alderweireld he is available for a reasonable fee in the region of 15 million due to his contract nearing an end. He would be a big improvement on Downing on the left, and has so much more ability and versatality. At just 21 he could turn into a world class player for us.

In attack we have brought in Aspas which I think was a very shrewd move by the club. We also expect to see Mkhitaryan come in for roughly 22 million. Carroll has left for in the region of 15-16 million which is good considering he will never play for us again under Rodgers.

Whether Suarez leaves now or doesn't is anyone's guess, but if he did I think signing the above players would still be enough to make us contenders for a top four place. If he did leave we would still have a vast amount of money from the sale for future signings.

Jonesred {Ed002's Note - Digne is moving to PSG.}

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Disagree with Lucas leaving. Also, Banega has been used as a play-maker and at times as an attacking midfielder. It makes little sense to buy him as a replacement for a defensive midfielder, a very good one at that in Lucas.

There are already enough attacking midfielders ate LFC in Coutinho, Alberto and Suso, and possibly Mkhitaryan. There is no need for another in Eriksen and in any case, it seems unlikely he will join.

The real AG

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23 Jun 2013 18:10:37
Guys can I just say its all getting a bit personal on here. we all come here to look at what other SUPPORTERS think. We may not agree with them or the eds but its a rumour site for F***s sake.
Personally I think some of the things on here including mine can be quite funny especially when the eds are on form and give one of their cutting replys. let's all make sure eds don't pull this site by keeping it sensible.
P.S Many thanks for all the sterling work you put in to this eds

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There's been some good posts, esp today. Some good points and views to consider and debate. But people should hear out the argument.
The Juicer

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Well said.

The real AG

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23 Jun 2013 17:58:08
I notice that last night you summed up your grasp of finance by saying that:

'Resale value=hedge fund'

I think you're on to something. Does this also mean that
Piggy bank= pension fund?
Try not to stray into areas you don't understand, and stick instead the conspiracy theories - they were at least funny to read.

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No it means

'resale value=hedge fund'.

Nothing more nothing less.

Ozone

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Sorry ozone. I bow to your superior financial acumen. I will look to invest in the Luis Alberto hedge fund in the morning.

BigBadBen

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Give Lebron James a shout Ben, he'll be able to advise you on the intricacies.

Ozone

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Oh yes. Lebron James is a well known hedge fund manager, John Henry was the mystery figure on the grassy knoll, and Ed02 is a leading light in the illuminati. Ozone season is well and truly here again.

BigBadBen

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And so too are your childish attempts at sarcasm Ben.

Ozone

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23 Jun 2013 17:56:36
When will Aspas sign eds? {Ed002's Note - ICAQAT}

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I can't answer question after question?

LFC 2929 {Ed002's Note - I can't answer questions about timescales.}

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I can't answer questions about time?

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23 Jun 2013 17:41:25
hi eds, please may I ask why my post regarding the firstrow court case has been removed from the site. has it in someway offended people if so I apologise I genuinly asked for help in finding a solution to firstrow.

billy2013 {Ed002's Note - Folks had posted about a number of sites - many of which we could never advocate folks visiting.}

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23 Jun 2013 17:01:40
Any truth in gareth barry coming to Liverpool on a free as city want to release him? Kolo Toure is on holiday with him at the moment.

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Haha! Gareth Barry! I rather we keep Spearing in that case LOL.

The real AG

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Yeah its not like he won a premier league or nothing AG. would be a good back up. but will never happen

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Benny, having won a PL in the past is no excuse to get in a player like Barry. What exactly would Barry bring to LFC that Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson, Allen, Coady or even Spearing can't?

Also, he is probably paid as much as Gerrard, is approaching retirement age are factors to be looked into too.

But yeah, he is just an average footballer, over-paid beyond belief by City and won't ever happen.

The real AG

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I think 'Barry to Liverpool' caused us enough problems in the past. Isn't that what supposedly drive Alonso away, which then drove Masch and the eventual decline and sacking of Rafa?

Andy K

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23 Jun 2013 17:31:51
I remember Ozone being dead on about Andy Carroll a couple of years back, so treat him with more respect please.
But Ozone, would you not say that FSG would look more at last Jan's transfer window as a template to how to get better value?
Where I may agree with, to an extent, is if there is scrimping with the spine of the team - if Suarez were to be sold, we need to spend that on proven quality. Not the 7m shots as you say.
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Yes I believe there is a place for the 7-10 mill punts Juicer, definitely but they should be brought in to provide depth in the squad aound a world class spine of 4 or 5 to include Goalkeeper, centre half, centre mid and two strikers. We have class shortcomings in terms of defensive mid and centre half.

We've got similar to Alberto and Iloris in the academy. We don't need anymore. We need proven footballers to instantly comman a place in the first team. From what I've seen of Iloris, he reminds me of Sendoros. Who's scouting these players? The lad seems to have a concentration issue and dithers when he takes the ball out of defence. Why aren't we going all out for popodopilis? I can understand Rodgers reluctance to sign a defencive mid with popodopilis, he gives a high line and recovers fast and with that in mind I can see where the Armenian slots in. Alberto and Iloris are bad buys guaranteed, they bring nothing to the balance of the team and don't strengthen it in any way.

Ozone

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Anyone who understands football was right about Andy Carroll

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23 Jun 2013 17:47:52
ozone how can you say they are bad buys before even seeing them play for us? I understand your point about the need for a mature and strong spine of a team, but to say they won't add anything how do u know? alberto is the same age and around the same price as coutinho, how do you know he won't have the same effect? any player who we buy I will back to the max.

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I said something similar yesterday, but got a defensive response by some of the rose tinted spec wearing Pool fans. For me Liverpool shouldn't be buying 7-8 cheapies, they should be buying three top players and filling the gaps with the youth that is already at the club.

I think BR is doing exactly what Rafa did. Rafa made some good buys, but usually spent little sums of cash on several potentially good players. He wasted millions on absolute rubbish when he should have used the cash to buy 3-4 top players to add to Torres, Alonso, Masch etc etc.

BR IMO should be buying ready made quality, not potential or Toure's. The squad is full of potential and these new signings will only block their progress. Liverpool fans will reply in their numbers telling me I'm trolling or I don't know what I am talking about, but sometimes fans from other clubs can see what most of you cannot.

I regularly asked Ed001 for his opinion on United players as I wanted a non-biased opinion. I genuinely believe BR has missed a trick here and should have spent the money more wisely. I do not think he will see how these 'potentials' turn out, because he will be sacked come May. He needed to buy proven quality, not potential. He has enough of that in the current squad.

Disney!

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Ozone you speak a lot of sense. But who do you think would come to Anfield in the 'proven player' bracket. It seems there are a lot of players out there that fit the profile and their clubs would be willing to sell. But getting them to come to non CL teams is hard without mega money to spend, Monaco for example.

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Fair do's mate. I haven't see anything of the new boys, so I can't say either way really. If Pepe and Suarez leave, with Carra retired and SG a year older, I fully agree about replacing that spine.
Everything I've read or heard about the Greek CD is positive. He'd be a good signing.
The Juicer

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I agree on Alberto and can't for the life of me figure out why we bought him. last year when we spent 3 -> 4 m on Assadi, I did post he is a decent player for good price but he is no better than Sterling and Suso and will hardly play in the first team . Alberto falls into the same category, he is a decent player.But he is not bought for the first team . don't fool yourselves . he is at best a cover for Coutinho with fraction of the ability, and to me Suso/Sterling can do this role just as well . we could've saved our selves the 8 -> 9 m instead of buying for the sake of it .
Ozone, Your earlier point about the resale policy, I happen to share your cynicism, and to me the Mignolet / Pepe scenario is one to keep an eye on.

Roy

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I totally agree with you Disney.

Ozone

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You are wrong on Rafa Disney. If he got the players he wanted we would have won the league. Simao, Silva, Alves, Villa, Jovetic, Vidic, etc he wanted but the owners were pathetic. He then had to go for the 'risks' or 2nd or 3rd choices, hence them not being as good, and us falling short.
I think Rodgers is playing for time. Another season of massive turnovers of players and supposed time needed for players to bed in, I can see the excuses lined up already. Although if we get Papadopoulos/Zouma and Mkhitaryan I think we will suprise a few and do well. However deals for Papa and Mkhitaryan seem to be becoming unlikely.
JFT96
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Aspas, the Greek bull, Atsu, Wanyama, Torre, the Armenian and a left back coming in with Suarez, Skrtle, shelvey, downing and Coates leaving and I would have been happy with business. Instead Rodgers is bringing in players that won't strengthen the team.

Ozone

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23 Jun 2013 18:55:16
I have to disagree, this Alberto and aspas have been scouted by the club so the scouts must think they will be good players for Liverpool suso is a good player but look at coutihno no one expected him to be as good as he is, and he is along way ahead of suso and the other youngsters, I dnt think these players would be brought if the club didn't think they were better than what we have i'd wait and see before judging, I think Liverpool are starting to run a lot more professionally latley and I think the signings we are making and the potential signings of Mickey, mingolet, will push us on again next season, i'm excited to be a Liverpool fan at the mo,
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Smithy, I think the problems with MK is he is very expensive and he doesn't really want the Liverpool move. He keeps being offered to other clubs and in all honesty do you want a player at the club who doesn't want to be there? Or at the very least would prefer moves elsewhere. How long until he is trying to get a move out of Liverpool due to lack of CL? Will Liverpool be able to get £25m back on him? Highly doubtful even if he ends up being a big hit. I think he has a questionable attitude, but I think he is a decent player nonetheless.

Disney! {Ed002's Note - I don't think he has ever suggested he does not want the move to Liverpool Sydney. The issue right now is resolvable if LFC want to pay the price.}

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I don't agree.Alberto is a young lad who has quality and potential just look at the chances he creates for the Barcelona B team and the goals he scored for them.Only time will tell if he becomes a success, Personally I think he will be a great acquisition to the squad.

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IMO, Alberto will be a replacement and certainly an upgrade on Shelvey.

I simply don't understand all this hate for a young player who is ready to break into first team football. LFC's scouting has been shrewd of late, buying players who have a point to prove (Sturridge and Borini) and players who have lost their way a bit (Coutinho). This is being implemented with the likes of Aspas, Alberto and to an extent Atsu and Ilori. I agree Atsu is probably not the cleverest signing if it happens however.

There are some people who go around wanting the likes of Tello, Cuenca, Jonathan Dos Santos, Munain etc but don't want Alberto. How do you defend that kind of reasoning?

The real AG

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Fair enough Ed002, I just get the impression he would take most other offers if they were available to him.

Disney! {Ed002's Note - Certain other offers, sure.}

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I agree with your logic Syd & Ozone. Who would you buy if you were BR - obv within our financial means and that they would want to move to LFC?

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Fensh, I would have spent the extra couple of million on Begovic, signed Papa, Wanyama, MK and Benteke. Now that's a spine. Papa, MK & Benteke being the three top players I am talking about. I would use the kids to fill in the rest of the gaps.

Disney!

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Fensh, ins:- Aspas, Wanyama, the Armenian, Atsu (preferably a better winger but nonetheless), Popodopolis and a decent left back. Outs :- Suarez, Skrtle, carroll, Coates, Assiadi, (maybe Downing although he started to prove useful down the right in support of Johnsons defensive woes), Shelvey and Spearing. I wouldn't be surprised if we had some change out of that whilst at the same time FSG would be happy and we have a more rounded squad and better balance in the team.

Ozone

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Well I guess we are after MK and Papa though they might not arrive. I personally rate Mignolet and Begovic on par, Mignolet little younger so perhaps better option.

Just Benteke, I think I would prefer to see a second season of him before paying 20m. I think I might have had a go at getting Soldado. Even though he is nearly 30, I think he will give us the goals to make top 4 and might have come.

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Ed is there any indication that LFC will meet that price {Ed002's Note - I don't know what will happen.}

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Wow, a fair and reasonable debate on both sides including a manc who was both sensible and and fair in his argument and was responded too in kind. I disagree with Disney's argument but can see some merit at the same time. I don't think we are ready for the 'top up superstar' structure that has worked so well for United. Maybe we look at that when we reach the CL and can begin to look more at the top shelf options rather than blow our wad now. Of course that does does not answer the argument that we won't get CL without them however I still believe in the old 'a champion team will beat a team of champions' argument and think United are proof of that.

Andy K

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23 Jun 2013 17:26:41
Based on 1. last seasons team and 2. who we are reported to be targeting I am going to do a 4 part post comparing their maximum ability with 3. the best player from our academy in that position. 1=last season, 2=with targets included, 3=academy player:

This is part 1 of 4 to avoid a very long post.

Goalkeeper:

1. Pepe reina current ability: 8/10 potential ability: 8/10

Best attributes: distribution, passing, communication, rushing out and reflexes.

Weak attributes: command of area, handling (sometimes), inconsistent performances.

2. simon mignolet current ability 5/10 potential ability 7.5/10

Best attributes: Bravery, reflexes, communication, command of area, rushing out

Weak attributes: distribution, passing, mistakes and concentration (sometimes)

3. Danny ward current ability 4/10 potential ability 7/10

Best attributes: distribution, handling, bravery, concentration, rushing out and reflexes.

Weak attributes: command of area (sometimes), passing, strength

Goalkeeper evaluation: Reina is the best out of the four when he is on form he is one of the best in the world, mignolet could eventually become as good as him if he works on his distribution and passing as well as other attributes. Ward needs regular regular game time to progress, if trained properly he could reach a standard near reina or mignolet's max potential but I don't think he would reach their level due to lack of game time, however he is young enough to prove me wrong.

Lil Red

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Lil, I reckon that your thinking about Pepe on one of his better days, and to be fair, when he does put his mind to it, he is one of the best in the world, but, he did put on weight, bit slow, and lost his mojo, and let in lots of soft goals,
It will be interesting to see how Mignolet performs, great to see that he is 6ft 4ins, he will def be improving every season, and is still nowhere near peaking .
redforever

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You've only named 3

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I disagree. Reina was a 9/10 before his demise. IMO one of the best keepers around. I would say he is still a 7/10 now after his decline and still better than Mignolet. I also think you are seeing the best of Mignolet now. He has improved a lot since his move from Belgium and had his best season last season, but I cannot see him getting much better as he is almost 25. He is a good keeper, a safe keeper IMO. Begovic would have been a better buy.

Disney!

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I think that a goalie might reach their peak about the age 27/28 yrs, and stay at that level for another 4/5 yrs at least, so, if we do sign Mignolet, I hope he develops into a world class goalie,
Disney, not sure your young keeper will stay at united, when he improves, and he will, can see him playing for one of the big two in Spain,
redforever

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Redforever, I too expect him to move to Barcelona one day as he is an exceptional goalkeeper. Like you have said keepers can peak at 27/28, but Reina peaked earlier and started going downhill at those ages. I think Mignolet is what he is, he is a safe pair of hands, nothing flash and never will be.

Disney!

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23 Jun 2013 16:44:39
does anyone in the know have any idea as to whether BR rates Enrique, personally I think he's a weak link and if we're going to challenge for CL places, we need a new left back. He is ridiculously one footed for a Premier League level player and often has a couple of mad minutes where he seems like he's just lost concentration.
I honestly believe we really need to strengthen here, i.e. Alex Sandro
Thanks
Kopendlad

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I prsonally think he will stay this season. I think his time at LM did him good, he's strong, provides experience and has got much better going forward, you're right though, he does get caught out at times re: concentration. I think this would partly be helped by having some serious competion for his spot to keep him on his toes ie. Lucas Digne/Aly Cissokho and would also mean that we don't just shove Glen there when he's not available just because he can play there. Brendan seems to be trying to make sure every position has an alternative option which can only help the team (we had a seriously thin squad last year), players will have to up their game if they want to be part of the first team, and others will get their opportunity to make a particular position their own if they perform, and keep performing.

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23 Jun 2013 16:39:21
Some good signings so far I think and a couple more to come hopefully! Would still like to see a marquee signing a mihktayan or eriksen or someone just to show we mean business! Any latest on mihktayan of shachktar eds? Great site btw

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We don't need Erikson, we have Cotinhiou.

Ozone

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23 Jun 2013 17:42:56
I agree completely. He is great defensively and has good link up play, but his decision making is very poor and his crossing shambolic at best. We need another left to challenge him.

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8mil shot coutinho eh Ozone

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Ive just posted saying we need players from the 8-10 mill market but not a team full of them red Branch. It's a risky game.

Coutinhous a great payer no doubt but I also recall Kyle Walker having him on toast at our place last season. Let's not forget we have heavy winters and defensive big teams who find ways of doubling up on talent like Cotinhho. The lad has done well since he arrived but let's not jump the gun.

Ozone

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You've picked one game he hasn't been his best the truth is he's done a awesome job for us at such a young age mate.
and let's not forget he been only here a since january. One other thing I could pick out lots of so called superstars having a stinker during the season it happens.

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Ozone, is that the Kyke Walker who had a poor game at anfield and gifted us a goal,
redforever

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23 Jun 2013 16:31:02
what's the latest with Suarez? massive disappointment with all recent dealings but would still love him to give us another year it's the least he owes us {Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.}

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23 Jun 2013 16:10:08
Hey ed how much time will the aspas signing take.
And I heard that spearing and Shelvely are being sold if true how much are they being sold for? {Ed002's Note - I cannot answer about how long things will take and we don't discuss money.}

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23 Jun 2013 16:01:18
What's the latest on henrikh mkhitaryan eds all gone quiet the last few days! Also is it true that people are protesting for the transfer of him to Liverpool as they think he basically should be allowed what to do!

Cheers A {Ed002's Note - The situation is as explained.}

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23 Jun 2013 15:59:33
We have agreed £22.5m for Henrikh Mkhitaryan which should have secured him, however certain parties firmly feel they can get at least £30m (Which won't happen) what we have here is greed and nothing more.

From our point of view we have a deal in principle with player, agent, club however certain factions are holding out for a big pay off.

Things will change but at this moment I could not tell you which way as we've made our approach and left it at that, negotiations were going well until late last week then it got messy and quite frankly farcical

Kabir

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23 Jun 2013 15:44:15
Jonjo to west ham on loan and diame to Liverpool to be done in next 2 weeks. Not sure about fee!

Ynwa

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I'd be very happy with that, would love to see Diame boss our midfield and truly believe shelvey will come good, just needs consistency

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To send a player on loan it is so he can get game time and hopefully develop. what kind of development will you get with an allardyce team?

Puzzled

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I think diame has improved since he went there from wigan! Jonjo would get more game time, that's all he needs.

Ynwa

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23 Jun 2013 15:37:01
so are people happy with Alberto signing? My only worry is that he isn't the quickest, think his position should behind sturridge.

Danny

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Would have to ask Sturridge first if its ok to play in behind him. Only right.

I sped up my video player to 1.5x and he seemed to get quicker on you tube. Try it.

I think Alberto will do fine at LFC.

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Bargain of the summer.

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23 Jun 2013 15:28:56
If suarez goes just a thought why don't they try and get hulk with the money

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Because HULK in not that good!

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Not fit enough to tie suarez boots in my opinion. Use to rate him at Porto, but is very poor at times I think

Danny

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I hope your joking. he is shocking.

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What fantasy land are u living in

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Hulk is a LFC fan, it is his dream to come to LFC and halve his wages. He never really enjoyed playing champions league anyways.

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Hulk isn't good enough, but Aspas is fit enough to tie Suarez' boots ;)

Disney!

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You will certainly get what is expected out of Aspas rather than the sulking, and criminally overpaid Hulk.

The real AG

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Of course every player is a Liverpool fan even Messie lol

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Hey Disney, why don't you zip-a dee doo dah back to your own page.

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Have to agree about hulk, and I haven't seen too much of Aspas to judge the lad but il wait and see.

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23 Jun 2013 15:13:56
I don't think this is Rodger's or Liverpool's make it or break it season. If you remember Ian Ayre said some weeks ago that it could take 2 or 3 years for us to get champions league football. So getting top 4 this season or even next, would be, in some sense, overachieving.

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That would be to ignore the fact that we need to be back in the top four and challenging for the title, and any other trophies on offer - that's where we belong, and where we have slipped from.

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If Ayre said it, it must be correct.

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By what God given right do we "belong" challenging for all honours? We have to earn that right through a capable squad, good management and through the owners and the fans. We have been fortunate as a club to have been there or thereabouts for years, but we didn't start off there, it was through the foundations built and installed by Shankley, then Paisley that gave us the successful era we have been fortunate enough to have at the club, but, for too long we have taken that for granted and other teams have built and engineered successful teams around us, whilst we have become complacent and have overspent on mediocrity.

That is why we find ourselves where we are now, unable to compete financially with others, and not in a position to challlenge for the premiership at the present time (admitedly we weren't far off a few seasons ago), and also, not in Europe this coming year. I hope and believe FSG see the bigger picture of steadily rebuilding from the roots up, (as they did with the Red sox), and not just trying to buy instant success.

I also believe IMO that Brendan has to be seen to be making progress, but that top 4, is not an imperative this coming year. I'm sure Brendan wants to be aiming for that, and it would be a real achievement if we do it (I am personally really optimistic and feel we are really heading in the right direction, however realistic enough to know I am optimistic every time the world cup comes round with England, only to see Spain or Brazil or Argentina play their first game then watch England play there's.)

Progress is key, but Liverpool have a tradition (until the recent past) of not sacking their manager after 1 season, I hope Brendan gets the time to begin to build a new legacy, and I hope we fully appreciate it when and if, it bears fruit.

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23 Jun 2013 15:07:15
Lars Bender of Bayer Leverkusen would complete our midfield with his defensive and passing ability.
Is he available this summer eds?
Puzzled Red {Ed002's Note - If he moves it won't be to Anfield.}

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23 Jun 2013 13:57:05
Sly sports reporting that Mignolet's agent is saying no deal done with LFC.

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If you read it properly he basically says it will happen though.

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23 Jun 2013 13:18:15
Ed apparently David Villa has been offered to Liverpool and City. Do you know what Liverpool's response was? Cheers.
ROI. {Ed002's Note - Is this Twitter?}

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No Aidan Magee on tv was saying:
-Arsenal are on the verge of signing Higuain and have an interest in Fellaini.
-City still have hope in signing Isco.
-Spurs made 17m bid for Paulinho.
-And tv believe Barcelona have offered David Villa to Liverpool and City, but wages could be a problem.

Any comment Ed? Cheers.
ROI. {Ed002's Note - Mr Magee is simply speculation I would guess.}

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23 Jun 2013 13:34:36
Ed030 mate, apart from yourself and ed001, which other eds are Liverpool fans?

Cheers {Ed030's Note - Ed 052,Ed 019 and probably some others mate. }

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Just outta curiosity, whatever happened to ed006? {Ed002's Note - It is a pretty weird story and not one I can tell before the watershed.}

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Haha oh my, fair enough :)

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What happened Ed 022! He was probably my favourite ;) {Ed002's Note - May be back by Christmas - with good behaviour.}

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That's no excuse Ed, there is no reason why he couldn't edit this page from his cell. A friend of mine is on Facebook everyday whilst making clay frogs in Dartmoor. Beats number plates I guess.

Disney!

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Disney! lol

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23 Jun 2013 13:43:14
Any news on Simon Mignolet?

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Yes, he is sunderlands goalkeeper . andy.

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23 Jun 2013 13:36:53
Anything new on Southampton's bid for Banega? Just wondered if we had a chance

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We prob would have if we were interested.

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I'd like to think we were at 8 million. Would add steel to the middle which we sadly lack.

If he came in at 8 million, I'd sell Lucas for say 15 million (to Napoli maybe? ) and would see that as great business.

Still only 24 and much better than Lucas.

Jonesred

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Trouble with that is that unlike on your FIFA13 where you play him at dm he's been playing a lot further forward for Valencia an probably want to come here and have to adapt to such a deep roll.

Also why would you want to get rid of Lucas and leave us with just one player trying to cover that dm role, especially considering Lucas was one of the top dm's in Europe this season just gone and he managed it whilst recovering from two serious injuries, thank god your not our manager!

Fester

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23 Jun 2013 13:29:21
Eds, any truth in the Torres rumour, great site, red Baz

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I hear the deal is as good as done! 5m plus Jay spearing is apparently what there looking. Can you confirm this ed?

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23 Jun 2013 13:06:40
Afternoon Eds, all.

Not really a question about signings, but I was wondering, and for Ed002 in particular, do you hold a full time job as well as run this site?
You seem to answer most of the questions on the site, and if you also work, it must take up masses of your time. This by the way is appreciated by the majority of the users here, me included

I check this site a few times a day, and the fact you get a lot of abuse is mind boggling. You all keep us updated in your own free time, and I can't understand why a minority of people do what they do

It must at times get very testing, and that includes being asked the same things over and over.You know, I don't know how you carry on to be honest, but you do, and you do it for us

Thanks to all you Eds, it is appreciated


RD {Ed002's Note - Yes I have a job as well.}

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Hacking the rubbish off the shirts in the Laundry must be hell in this weather.

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So perhaps you should get to work mr unnamed poster? Hear underpants are your speciality.

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23 Jun 2013 13:28:56
{Ed030's Note - Hi all!, Just to let you know player ratings are now on twitter make sure to follow us as we will tweet when there is new content to the site like blogs thanks!. }

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23 Jun 2013 13:13:04
Any interest in Honda? {Ed030's Note - Fullham,Everton,Milan and Lazio who come close to signing him last summer before it fell through and they might well go back in for him. }

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23 Jun 2013 12:53:28
Imagine if Liverpool signed blew witsel from zenit perfect defensive midfielder would be perfect even though it won't happen just imagine the improvement he would make

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Is Blew Axel's brother?

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Or alex even

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Using my phone and use dictionary my bad Alex I ment

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23 Jun 2013 12:50:08
Expect Jonjonjo to leave, in the next 4 weeks. Alberto is seen direct replacement in squad. BR expects to get 4-5 million from one of 3-4 clubs interested. This means with relatively little money, BR has achieved a good upgrade. good business

cheers
Jasper

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What a load of crap. jonjo might well go out on loan but he won't sell him. alberto plays across the front. jonjo plays in the middle. a lot of you just can't see what br is trying to do can you. you all think he is trying sell most of the squad. HE IS TRYING TO BUILD A SQUAD. NOT SELL IT. OPEN YOUR EYES.
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Open your eyes stu! henderson lucas gerard allen and alberto coutinho are adequate cover in there . trimming the squad to free up other funds 4 other areas, shelvey I think will go
5 gold stars

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Shelvey is not good enough or suited to our style of play. Needs to move on and play regularly.

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I never said jonjo is good enough but he won't sell him. he may well loan him. I am opening my eyes. I can see what he is trying to do. most on here just think he should sell the squad every season.
stu

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23 Jun 2013 12:35:18
Hi Ed002,
any legs to the story ManCity will make a 35m bit for Suarez and that Liverpool are fighting with Arsenal for Papadopoulos? Don`t believe it but just want to check with you experts.thanks. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function please.}

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23 Jun 2013 12:27:54
Hello eds, if suarez it's to leave, any idea what strikers are our targets? Thanks {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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23 Jun 2013 12:15:41
It seems Mkhitaryan is the top of the transfer target list i'll admit iv'e never seen the lad play but listening to people who have he's a very talented player that could add goals to our team, for me the fee seems a bit high for a player relatively unproven but who knows he could prove to be worth it. But if the club has £20m+ to spend on one player I wish we'd at least inquire about Arda Turan, a proven quality player that has grown so much since his move to Spain and from what iv'e heard about him he'd move to Liverpool in a heart beat. I'm not sure Atletico would sell having already let Falcao go but you never know til you ask. Also Honda will probaly be going cheap which would certainly be a safer bet.

As for Skrtel's replacement Papadopoulos is a hell of a player and at 21 would probably be pushing to be captain in a few years if we signed him due to his leadership skills beyond his years, but his injury is an obvious risk and probably the reason many of the big spending clubs haven't snapped him up yet. Having said that the club could sign a player that's never been injured before and breaks his leg on his debut so there's always a risk of injury with any player. Toby Alderweireld will probably rise to top of the list and rightly so, he's in the last year on his contract and is yet another talented player to come through the ranks at Ajax.

This summer is make or break not just for Rodgers but Liverpool as a top club, if we fail to get in the top four or even close to it AGAIN that will end any lingering hopes of the club returning to the top, i'd imagine the owners will look else where in th manager department and we'll have to start 'rebuilding' again. Despite all this i'm cautiously optimistic for the upcoming season and feel we could finally pip Arsenal into the Champions League.

always a red

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23 Jun 2013 12:22:19
Paulinho is said to be considering an offer from spurs, fee apparently around £17 million. Could he be an alternative to Micky or would lack of European football count us out? {Ed002's Note - I would think lack of any interest from Liverpool would rule the club out.}

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23 Jun 2013 12:05:09
Is the move for henrikh mkhitaryan still one? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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It's about six now isn't it?

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23 Jun 2013 12:03:52
Hi eds
Re - shelvey.
do you have any idea if the young lad maybe considering going back down to the south or if BR sees now him as a defensive midfielder or even cover for that position with jonjo himself requesting more playing time in that position for our under 21's near the end of last season?

Cheers

R2tB

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23 Jun 2013 11:58:35
Eds which striker would you think we have best chance of buying if suarez leaves? 2. Is the tello rumours true? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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23 Jun 2013 11:42:52
I read somewhere that City and Madrid had struck some kind of agreement not to bid against one another . instead they will identify and target a player. Then discuss and agree whose turn it is to go for that particular player - thus avoiding a bidding war. With all the rumours coming out of late about 'Suarez to City' I wonder if they've decided that City can have a 'free' run at Suarez. If so, and he goes there. He can expect a rough ride in the press and at grounds up and down the country - not least Anfield! 50 million big ones please Mister Shiek!
Jackzokay.

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I really can't see Suarez moving to another Premier League club, if he's going to go surely he wants to leave the country, even more so I can't see Liverpool making the same mistake Arsenal did selling their best player to a league rival. The abuse he's had in every ground I wouldn't have though he could play for those very fans. Then again i'm not surprised by the things he says or does anymore.

always a red

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23 Jun 2013 11:38:26
Morning all ed can I just hve a simple yes or no do you really thing Luis will go and if so how much do you think. Fantastic site to ed. {Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

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23 Jun 2013 11:26:17
hey eds, I was wondering if you heard anything about diego capel these rumours don't seem to go away and I think he's quite average and do you know anything about atsu from porto coming to Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

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23 Jun 2013 11:31:07
Eds surely it makes sense to keep Suarez for 1 more season to get us back into top 4?
Say we get 40 mill for Suarez, but then don't make top 4? We have lost the 30 mill windfall from European football and we now still need to invest all the Suarez money to get us back in to top top 4 the following season . I know people say don't keep an unhappy player . Surely though Liverpool will try to keep him 1 more season and then grant him his wish with an agreement in place with the buyer .
To me it just makes sense if they can convince him 1 more season?

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Why don't you try convince him on twitter to stay another year? I'm sure he will listen ;-)

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23 Jun 2013 11:30:07
Hi eds. with Napoli interested in Suarez. Do you see a possible swap deal with Cavani. Works well fir both clubs and are both around the same price.
Cheers Mike {Ed030's Note - No there is near enough zero chance o that happening. }

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23 Jun 2013 11:23:45
Hi Eds, hope you all are well. Do you think any of the youngsters at Liverpool will become regulars in Liverpools back four this season?
Cheers
RedRich {Ed030's Note - Not next season mate,Although I think Mclaughlin may get a chance. }

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22 Jun 2013 17:35:16
Hi edds, just wondering what number do you think alberto will be assigned? Will he be assigned and untaken number or do you think we will wait to see what happens with other signings and sales? Thanks. {Ed030's Note - I haven't got a clue mate,Keep a eye on the Liverpool website there might be some information on his number there mate. }

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There will be changes in some numbers, usually most will be clear from pre season., For exampleI expect sturridge might want the number 9, and Mignolet 1.

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Heard number 9.might be wrong tho

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Common Ed, didn't BR tell you over supper last night?

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23 Jun 2013 11:17:56
Hi eds, do we still have any interest in Kyriakos Papadopoulos or our interest has ended due to the asking price of Schalke? Thanks! {Ed002's Note - Try the search engine please.}

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23 Jun 2013 11:17:01
Big difference in the way we conduct business in the transfer market compared to the big guns. They buy to make their squads stronger with the intention of winning trophys. We buy for resale value.

What on earth does Alberto bring to the TEAM? All right foot, one dimensional and lightweight. It says it all when on YouTube they provide an overview of his highlights but have to repeat certain goals displaying them from different angles. Roughly interpreted as he's crap and YouTube can't pad out the footage as there is nothing of any note.

Bigbadben, answer me this. Did Utd buy RVP for resale value or to take the league title back from their rivals?

Ozone

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23 Jun 2013 11:51:30
Pathetic post from a pathetic looser who doesn't understand anything! If you go by YouTube you soft lad then alberto looks great! But you even have to lie to make your view sound right in your small maybe nonexistent brain! We would have signed RVP if we were in a position to do so but you fail miserably to get where we are as a club at the moment! $odd off you circus clown.

[The only REDS]

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Give it a rest pal whinging before he's even kicked a ball.

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Or Ozone, you could ask Ben why did Dortmund buy young players with potential and coach them into world class players, winning the title two years in a row and champs league runners up a year later. It's amazing that you actually think we have the money to buy players like RVP - it shows a severe lack of intelligence to be honest mate. Would you be happy if we bought Mkhitaryan? Considering we aren't even in Europe at all I think it would be the buy of the season.

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23 Jun 2013 12:03:19
Amazing bull! Get lost

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This is a joke post, right? You say we're buying for resale value, then you say he's rubbish? So we paid 7m for a poor player to sell at a profit later on? Put your wooden spoon away, Ozone, and just admit you are clueless.

cozinoz

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Well if you really believe that Liverpool buy for re sale value then surely Alberto must be albe to bring something to the team or esle he wouldn't have a resale value.

The Irish Rover

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Are you for real ozone? Why don't you do something more constructive like banging your head against a wall or something? Seriously, bore off with your negativity and unrealistic expectations. We're trying to build something here, why not try and enjoy the ride?

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I have to say this is a really poor post. I would like to see Ozone come back with a good explaination of how you can re sell poor players for profit.

The Irish Rover

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I notice that last night you summed up your grasp of finance by saying that:

'Resale value=hedge fund'

I think you're on to something. Does this also mean that
Piggy bank= pension fund?
Try not to stray into areas you don't understand, and stick instead the conspiracy theories - they were at least funny to read.

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Oh god, bore off! He hasn't even played for us yet but he is rubbish. Bale is all left foot, was light weight when starting at spurs and he is just terrible! Maybe that proves your?! Maybe the best thing we could do is let mid table teams buy these talents at 5 or so mil then after a season we buy them for 20. Wenger bought RVP for 2.75 mil and I think he won the league with arsenal. Maybe he should have waited till he cost 24 mil.

Cheers
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Yes clueless season ticket holder who rarely misses a game home or away cozinoz. FSG have done their homework, they known with the 7mill -10 mill brigade there's little to lose. It's the best punt of the day. Worst case senario, they get there money back.

Mark my words, we, ll see 4 or 5 10 mills come in, then a week before the end of the transfer w indow Suarez goes for 50 mill after handing in a transfer request. Very cute FSG, well done laddos, you've hoodwinked the keyboard warriors.

Ozone

Ozone {Ed002's Note - Where do you get this BS from?}

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Ozone, you have clearly demonstrated in the past that you are clueless about business and now you have made it even more clear you are clueless about football.

The real AG

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Just because you have a season ticket mate doesn't mean anything.

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For some reason you're in the minority with your opinions, Ozone - and now people are starting to laugh at you. Looking forward to you headlining the Liverpool Comedy post section.

cozinoz

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So, 'cause you go to pretty much every game you can't be clueless?

Yeah, I've saw every Jay-Z concert so now I can spit like the God MC!

Sort your head out lad; can't even answer when people pull you for your lame, contradictory statements (i.e. How can a s*** player possibly drum up any re-sale value).

Have a day off 'Superfan'!

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Let's wait and see Ed002, it's not rubbish yet is it.lets review the matter when the window closes. Fowler 126, don't insult Klopp by comparing him to Roy Rodgers.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - I agree about the likes of Alberto and, potentially, Atsu and even Ilori. However, the are Rodgers picks - not the owners. In the same way it was Dalglish's fault when he went on his pissing spree, it will be Rodgers' fault if this goes wrong.}

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I remember Ozone being dead on about Andy Carroll a couple of years back, so treat him with more respect please.
But Ozone, would you not say that FSG would look more at last Jan's transfer window as a template to how to get better value?
Where I may agree with, to an extent, is if there is scrimping with the spine of the team - if Suarez were to be sold, we need to spend that on proven quality. Not the 7m shots as you say.
The Juicer

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So Bozone doesn't like the owners, the management or the new signings?

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It's like building a house.
You've got your plot but nothing else.

So what do you do? You start on the foundations.

You don't buy a top of the range dishwasher stick it in a field and build the house around it. That's what Ozone is proposing.

The top 4 are in the top 4 because their squads are sound. They just need to make adjustments. We're still building our squad.

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I think we are doing grate signings, buying players with good potential just before they breaks through. Coutinho only needed to get a chance, I think Alberto is the same chase. He plays in all positions at front and have trained the style with the team in the world that does it best. I feel like the risk of buying him is much less than for example some English talent to 2x the price. I'm a bit worried that we don't get a bid for skrtel and therefor we are not able to improve the defence, but if Rodgers manage to sell skrtel and replace him with someone that fits our style better I'm sure we will be top 4.

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Thought we had a 22m bid in for mikhi that's 12m more than what you say ozone I also go to every game and wish to god I never sit by you the pollution is getting to you I think
mayhem 1981

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The last poster. Alberto was loaned to Barcelona B from Sevilla. Barcelona had the option to make that loan permanent but decided against it. The lads all right foot, he's nothing like Bale as one of the other posters has tried to argue, his physiques different. He's built like Ngog and will in no doubt prove to be as effective as Ngog. he's not pacey, he started out as a winger and has been moved to a more central role probably because as he's grown he doesn't suit the winger profile. He won't possess that natural centre of gravity which allows you to drop either shoulder to suit in the central role as he's learnt his trade as a winger but he's now to tall and slow to be a winger. Guaranteed bad buy, mark my words. Another waste of £7mill.

Ozone

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So let me get this right, LFC & all it's staff are under instruction NOT to buy players that could win games. more players that 'could' maybe one day, be sold for on for a bit more dough?

Dave Demix

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Ed002, I know they're Rodgers picks. This is what FSG wanted when they appointed him, someone who they believe can get the best from the 7-10 mill market. i'm sure they'll have done some sort of financial analysis on this market leading them to believe a hidden gem here and their with resale value yields a return whilst at 7-10 mill and age on their side, there's damage limitation in the flops. let's face it, we'd still probably get £8-9 mill for Borini.

In their eyes Rogers is a potential Arsen Wenger (thats what they're hoping for) but unfortunately they've missed the boat. The timing of their investment in
LFC will blow their strategy out of the
water. The games awash with money now. Arsenal rebuilt their infrastructure at the right time. FSG cannot expect LFC as a business to generate sufficient cash flow for both stadium expansion and player investment. Arsenal enjoyed consistency with champions league revenue. We have more chance of platting fog than we have breaking ino the top four with a bunch of kids, the majority of which are midgets.

Ok Cotinhiou on his day can open up defences. The lads talented no question but I also remember Kyle Walker having him on toast at our place. Rodgers isn't addressing the lack of physicality within our side. West Brom 0 points, Stoke 1, West Ham 4 but we robbed them at their place, Diame running the show untill he went off injured.

I'm not surprised Suarez wants out and I'm not surprised Carras hung his boots up. The FSG/ Roy Rodgers journeys going nowhere.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - I can guarantee that there has been no analysis based solely on the value of players - that simply will not have happened and there will be no instructions to Rodgers to buy the best players he can for that price. The fundamentals are a need to get back in to the Champions League and start pulling in more income from the sponsorship options and from match day revenue. In order to do this it is recognised that the squad needs further improvement and that certain players will be retiring now or soon and others will decide that their future is elsewhere. These need to be replaced from the squad, the reserves and academy, or from the open market. Financial constraints are hitting all clubs due to a general recession and also due to both local and international "fair play" type approaches. Liverpool has invested a great deal in the squad in recent years and it has not really worked out - but to be fair that latter half of last season was looking encouraging. The problem is Rodgers has these ideas and this mater plan which he sees as needing these young touch players to implement and that is where I, and I guess you become worried. It is almost like he wants to build a Barcelona using second tier and unproven players. For me I will agree that I struggle to see any great benefits from Alberto, Atsu and the like - although a Spanish ex-EPL player tells me that Aspas will adapt and will certainly work out at Liverpool. The central defence needs sorting out and whilst Ilori will be a replacement for Coates and Toure will provide experience, if he wants value, young and someone who may slot right in, then he should look to Zouma - but he isn't (at least right now). To pay for all of this the owners will again be supportive but the bulk and any Mkhitaryan type buys need the income from those leaving to assist with the funding.}

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Ozone your a complete tool, first you say all rodger is buying is midgets now he is too tall lol
get a grip mate your away with the fairies

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Thanks for the reply Ed002, in a roundabout way I don't think our opinions are a million miles apart, certainly on Rodgers.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - And clearly on some of the players.}

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23 Jun 2013 19:10:22
i would rather have 5 to 8 mil players who have the potential to be great players and on decent wages. than some of the overpriced and overpaid players that we seemed to have bought over the last decade. I don't know why you get so worried about FSG, Ozone, they have backed the manager and are paying our losses of year after year. I agree that you are entitled to your opinion lad!. but let's give these new signings our support and hopefully you will be wrong Ozone mate. {Ed002's Note - The critical thing is to have the right balance of players and the right players for the club. It is nothing to do with their value.}

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23 Jun 2013 11:13:38
Eds or Macca, do you expect us to sign the Armenian chap?

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23 Jun 2013 11:09:55
Hi eds are we pushing to try and sign Christian Atsu? {Ed002's Note -Try the search engine.}

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23 Jun 2013 11:04:33
Suarez will be at Anfield next season. All transfer plans are based around him in the team. He has been told that the club want him to stay for one more season and believe that when we get into the top 4 next season he will want to stay for the rest of his contract. If we don't get a top 4 finish the club will not stand in his way. Suarez has agreed to this.
Out will go Reina Shelvey Skertal Spearing Downing Coates and there will be another 4 players brought in. It will all be done early July so the squad will have an entire pre season together and will hit the ground running. A good start is very important and the club is backing BR and doing everything it can to help this happen.

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I hope your right mate - would be great to see Suarez, Sturridge, Mickey Coutinho and Aspas at the club next season - It could be a very exciting tune for us reds fans - YNWA

Jam2275

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Who is this Mickey?

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Mouse; Minnie's fella

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Mickey is a big mouse that lives in Florida, he has a wife called Minnie! hope this helps?

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A lot of hope in your post but hope it happens
mayhem 1981

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23 Jun 2013 10:41:44
Good morning everyone.

Does anyone know if the friendlies will be shown live on LFC TV. Thanks

alex7777

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Most are on espn. gerrards testimonial is on bt.

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23 Jun 2013 10:19:20
Hi Eds,
Would Liverpool sell Suarez to a premier league rival if they paid more than a non premier league team. Maybe say 5m more than offers from abroad. {Ed002's Note - I really don't want to get in to any such bizarre discussions.}

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Suarez has stated he wants to leave Liverpool, man city do have an interest in him, but I can't see him going to another English club, that would just be stupid on Suarez part, he wants to leave because of the way he's treated in England, so why stay and join some other English team? It's just newspapers recycling an old story! I wouldn't worry about it!

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23 Jun 2013 11:09:00
This doesn't make any logic.
he said he wanted out of UK. man city is an EPL club.
how would the press be different If he joined city?

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Well Manchester Will be kinder to him then Liverpool like the media are nicer there?

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Well Manchester Will be kinder to him then Liverpool like the media are nicer there?

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Defo, yeah.
Kinder to an ex-Liverpool player who got banned for his antics with a Man U player and then could maybe sign for their biggest, city rivals?

C'mon lad; have a think before you type!

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23 Jun 2013 10:05:49
Hoops fan here looking forward to playing yous soon absolutely Hope yous guys get Wanyama shear monstre of a boy never fibra the ball away brilliant in the air thid bhoy will tear up the pl and has allready Tore up the Champions League I hear your the club he wants to go to hopeso ynwa

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I'd love him at Anfield mate, he's the sort of player we've been missing for years. Unfortunately we have a manager obsessed with midgets.

Ozone

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Agreed, the fact he can slot in at cb and dcm makes gr8 sense, like the yaya toure affect. plus be nice to get a goal from a set piece! lol
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What crap you talking ozone, sturridge isn't exactly a midget,
pity some of the supporters on here suffer from midget brian syndrome.

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Red Branch put your glasses on Sturridge Coutinho and Allen are all midgets.

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Daniel sturridge the six foot midget
good job you wernt directing the lord of the rings

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Alibabainoz I have my glasses on sturridge is 6' 2'' some midget alright unless your the jolly green giant that's not small.

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Messi xavi ineista all 5' 7'' hate to have those midgets playing for us

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But barcelona have busquets and song who are not midgets and break up the play, we need someone like wanyama or are we waiting till he costs 30m before we go in for him? JUst look at his potentia, he seems a makele like player with height.

Lil Red

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Your not trevor brooking are you ozone

mayhem 1981

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23 Jun 2013 22:49:16
How exactly are Luis Alberto, Kolo Toure, Simon Mignolet midgets? I didn't know I was in the presence of 8 feet giants

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23 Jun 2013 10:00:59
Morning all, it's obvious that we're desperate for a CB (at least one) and while I'd be pleased with any of the regularly touted options I can't help but think we could do a lot worse than make an offer to the spuds for Michael Dawson. Thoughts?

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What's with you and old spuds players Chris?

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Trust me, I've no love of spurs in fact on my most hated clubs list they'd be near the top but they do have a couple of players I rate and Dawson has always been one of them. I'd certainly take him over Williams (that talk has gone quiet thankfully) and I think they'd let him go.
I'd also like the Eds thoughts

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It possibly could have been Toure OR Dawson. Not AND.
That's my view.
And everyone saying Toure is Carra's replacement. How's that?
Carra, at his best, was one of Europe's finest. So his replacement should be of similar quality or potential.
Get the Greek. I've not seen him play, I'll be honest with you, but there is unanimous agreement that he's a top player. That would be Carra's replacement.
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Chris, there is no chance of dawson joining, I'm told he simply wouldn't consider the move? He was asked last year by a journalist after being linked to lfc! Also drop the spuds thing it makes you sound about 12

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23 Jun 2013 12:37:51
Spuds, spuds spuds, spuds.

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Im sure dawson is coming upto 30 soon with us already having toure its a no go for me
mayhem 1981

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23 Jun 2013 09:30:57
morning ed's hope your all well, keep up top class work you all do, I've not been on hear for a while, I can't wait for the season to start.im buzzing I like the way Liverpool BR an FSG are doing all the work behind closed door's just how it should be.BR bring in more young hungry player's I see that can only be good for are LFC, i'm very happy with who BR is bringing in.now we are moving player's on carroll is gone cheer's lad walk on, and other player's will be sold that are not in BR's plans, its just the way it has to be.but there will always be LFC and we have to move on, and if and when suarez is sold the boy want's out then go I for one don't care as long as we get top top money for him, its more money for BR to change LFC in to a force.i hope you (suarez) go down the same road as torro when he left are club never the same player fact.suarez just ask torro.in LFC, FSG, AND BR I trust.good times are just ahead for are red men and I for one can't wait bring on the good times.JAY ESSEX RED FOR LIFE RED TILL DEAD.

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23 Jun 2013 09:16:12
Have we got any real interest in any CDM's. As I think that's one position we really need to strengthen because if we where to lose Lucas again there is no backup?

Are the reports on Wanyama true?

Skurks {Ed002's Note - The priority is central defence.}

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In that case Toby Alderweireld would be a good choice because of his versitility.
Thanks for the reply,
Skurks

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22 Jun 2013 20:35:38
Ed 002 what is your opinion on Brendan after his first year in charge. I'm not usually optimistic but he gives me the right vibe in how he is doing things, the way he is doing is transfers I for 1 is very pleased because how I look at it he is able to progress a young talent to its fully capability, if you look at Dortmund they done it quite similar in bringinging quality young players and finding stability same time as upping there value, you can always go and buy your self a superstar but if you have a quality manager with a big word in transfers you could make a team of them they all start from somewhere. I hear all the eds and people in general speak about winning the prem saying it is far off but please correct me if I am wrong we might have worse players in FIFA statistics but we have a young hungry team all willing for success we have a family now ready to close the doors and ready to succeed. Thanks james {Ed002's Note - Everyone would certainly have been disappointed with the overall results after the first season but there were very encouraging signs towards the end of the season in terms of the way the team plays. However, I am a little concerned that Rodgers appears to be assembling a group of players (that may or may not improve the team) to play in a manner he advocates but would not suit any future coach coming to the club. I would think the chances of screwing up the primary target of CL qualification yet again would have to lead to a rethink on behalf of the board. Taking young second tier, albeit talented, players from other leagues is not only high risk but the club could end up with players any other coach would not want to work with. Settling in a different culture for such players is often not easy (Pacheco is a good example of this). So he gets a B- for now.}

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I couldn't agree more Ed002

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I think you're generous with your grade ed002. This season will no doubt be make or break for Brendan. What will be interesting is to see how many fans come out with the "transition" line when we could quite possibly have more players joining us this Summer than last. His spending at the end of the Summer will be up there with Kennys, or close to it.

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That's true if you sack Rogers you have to get someone with the same playing style to replace him or it will become much changing plus youth and experience sometimes don't cut it in our team not enough leaders and in the premier league you have to win ugly to win something sometimes

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It's CL or bust IMO.

The real AG

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23 Jun 2013 15:17:40
Dont worry AP second from bottom, they will blame Suarez my mate. Can read some on here like a book i.e. Benny baller etc ( and by the way benny boy, I will deal with you when I get in from work tonight ) I havn't had time today.

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Rodgers is definitely ALL-IN this season. strange that he is banking on this particular transfer strategy when you consider we played are best football when there was a balance between short/longer passes. Gerrard demonstrated this IMO. In the 2nd half of the season Coutinho, Sturridge were excellent, but to be fair players that Daglish apparently wasted money on provided the team with balance. Henderson, Enrique and Downing all at times were good. Henderson in particular, a player I think is all round better than Allen.

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23 Jun 2013 08:28:32
Hi Eds,
non Livepool comment but didn`t Barca do one heck of a business securing Neymar before Confederation Cup started? Now the price would be sky-high.
tom

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Yeah, everyone thought he was only worth a few quid last month

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23 Jun 2013 08:20:19
what about niang from milan to replace suarez

he s going to be a top player

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23 Jun 2013 07:23:15
Hi eds. Personally, I would like to see suarez stay, but his attitude needs to change. It is great that we showed we can win and score goals without him though. If he gets his wish, who would you like to see come in? Do you think a proper outand an out striker like a soldado or huigain would be good(i know not realistic options) or would we go with a similar player to suarez that drops deep. If we get mickey from shaktar, with us already having sturridge, aspas, alberto, borini, sterling, suso to play across the front line, would we better to invest the money in another mascherano type player, which I think we lack. Great sight as always, cheers {Ed002's Note - Sorry but this has been done to death.}

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23 Jun 2013 07:36:51
hi eds great work and grateful for your info ignore the haters a quick one
1.do u think we will sign left back tis summer {Ed023's Note - We have scouted a few left backs so it is possible}

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23 Jun 2013 07:32:49
Look on the bright side lads we could win the reserve league next season with Alberto, Aspas and kolo. {Ed023's Note - A very productive first post here..}

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23 Jun 2013 05:13:50
Here's the question for my fellow REDS, do you think the squad we ended the season with would have made top 4 if it had been the squad we started with?

Simply put, if we had Sturridge and Coutinho fr the start.

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We would undoubtedly have been closer, but still need to strengthen the squad as a whole to provide competition and cover for injuries, (Gerrard, Allen, Sturridge, Lucas, Borini all played last season when not fully fit because of a lack of depth.) Brendan seems to be addressing that early this window, which is very encouraging, plus another years experience for the likes of Suso, Sterling, Ibe, Coady and other players from the youth set up. It was also very much a transitional period for the team in terms of style of play, tactics and formation (very different from what we had been playing), which began to gel more after Christmas. I think we will definitely be pushing for the top 4 this season, (especially with 4 of the 6 teams that finished above us last term changing managers), but a good start and putting point on the board early will be important come the end of the season as these teams adapt and with the quality they have in their teams.

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No, I don't think we would have been top 4 but certainly would have finished above Everton and possibly made it farther in some of the cups. We clearly were more potent on offense but the issues on Defense and CDM haven't been addressed and would have cost us Top4 IMO.

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US Army . our defence was n't that bad last season, only 4 teams conceded less than us . the reason we dropped many points was because of missed chances in front of goal. (WBA and Aston Villa 2 examples where we had far more chances than the opposition but they managed to score and we squandered).

Roy

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23 Jun 2013 04:44:14
Any chance of Jackson Martinez of Porto as a possible replacement for Suarez?

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Probably not but we can live in hope!

Ciario80

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23 Jun 2013 03:59:11
Hey eds, just wondering if there might be any interest in Mateo Musacchio from Liverpool or elsewhere?

Lucky Red Slevin {Ed023's Note - Valencia has an interest in him}

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23 Jun 2013 03:51:44
Hi Eds - just a quick question - how can we make these signings pre 1st july. Luis Alberto has been paraded wearing the kit whereas Toure hasn't. Can we sign pre 1st july from overseas but not from British clubs? {Ed023's Note - You can sign a player but documents cannot be registered until July 1st and as for Toure - he is signed as of mid-June I think}

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Toure will sign on a free on 1st July once his City contract runs out.

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23 Jun 2013 02:24:14
I am really liking the fact that we have been very active early on in bringing players for the coming season. So far so good. brings a lot of optimism.

1. Toure - good buy - experience, replacement for Carragher. On a free, I think this is good business.

2. Aspas - I really do believe he will be loved by the KOP! He is technically gifted (as is expected of the spanish players), he is quick (especially over the first 10-15 metres - great acceleration), can beat a player with skill rather than just pace. But most importantly what will endear him to the KOP, is that he works hard, never gives up and really fights for the team. Anyone who watched the last game of Celta Vigo's season, with the team possibly getting relegated, he fought for the team and led them and provided the assist. The response at the end of the game when the players and fans embraced him and all the emotions that were apparent said it all. I really do like this player.

3. Alberto - good youngster. I know that many seem to be questioning why Barca didn't sign him, if he's any good etc. Barca have a so much talent especially in his area of the pitch. Consider the fact that Thiago is considering a move and can't get in. Fabregas the same (altho he's looking to stay). I don't have the expectations that he will have an immediate impact, but given time, he will be a good buy. I am somewhat surprised at the price. Sevilla just sold a first team player (23 years old - admittedly a left back - but still a first team player) for 2.5 mill to Villa. It does seem when we go in for a player, the value is much higher. But tbh its irrelevant as its not my money and i'm just glad FSG are putting the money forward.

Potential Signings -

1. Mignolet - fantastic keeper, although I think we will see Reina leaving. It is a world cup year and both keepers will have to be playing very regularly. but I guess time will tell.

2. Mickey - I hope he comes thru as he would be a first team starter and would make a difference for us. goal scorer, fantastic technique, quick and a position we need improvement on. The Attacking Midfield area is somewhere we do lack quality in the final third. Henderson has played there a lot the second half of the season ans Jonjo at the beginning. Neither did enough to cement that place.

3. Alderweild/Popadum - both great and would be good first team starters - alderweild also plays DM so could provide competition there.

As it is still early in the transfer window - I would love it if we could get competition for the defensive mid position and left back and a goal scorer.

I hope we see a better allen (who admittedly did quite well the first couple of games).

On Downing - (like most I hated this signing, and still cringe at the cost) - but he deserves some praise. he has worked hard, and him and johnson, do well together. he works hard defensively when we know johnson isn't that great there and it allows johnson to be more attacking as he knows he has downings support.

All in all. I am very positive - we have shown intent and have been pro active. But I do hope we make a few more signings.

PS - Suarez - gutted he may go. But we would definately need to buy to replace him. and buy big. I think sturridge is fantastic but he does have an long history with injuries and to have someone else who can put in 20 goals a season would def be needed. We would be losing 30 goals plus without suarez there. That has to be replaced (most top teams have 3/4 top strikers - . But its early in the transfer stakes, so a lot more to look forward to.

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23 Jun 2013 02:12:31
Any truth in the rumours linking Liverpool with Wanyama?

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I really hope so mate.

Ozone

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Same ozone mate, he's a great holding midfielder, let's do another coutinho on sutton.

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23 Jun 2013 01:44:22
really looking forward to watching coutinho, alberto and hopefully mickey playing together next year just to see those passes from coutinho and alberto and the tricks and goals from mickey could be exciting football!

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23 Jun 2013 01:35:52
Heard we are in for Deigo Capel of Lisbon for 6m, any truth in this Eds?

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23 Jun 2013 01:28:41
hi ed, could you confirm who Liverpool are currently interested in right now other than mkhitaryan and minoglet and do you think there will be many more arrvials after apas, alberto toure and eventually simon Minoglet {Ed023's Note - Search function, we have answered this question several times over}

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23 Jun 2013 01:27:52
ed's apparently we're interested in wanyama does this stop us trying to sign mickey thanks lfc-liquid {Ed023's Note - I wouldn't think so}

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23 Jun 2013 01:21:57
hi ads read on the mirror that mkhitaryan has a third party ownership is this true and can it affect the deal

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23 Jun 2013 00:03:18
Some rumblings going on that we are interested in Wanyama I really hope so if we manage to get him and Mkhitaryan that would transform our midfield.

GuvTOB

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I totally agree and really hope we are after him.

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23 Jun 2013 00:59:37
Is there any possibility that Mignolet will fight next season with Reina for the number 1 spot, can't see us spending so much on a keeper to not take over immediately as well as both keepers will want to prove themselves with regular football for the world cup 2014. If we sign Mignolet surely reina must be moving on?

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I don't want us to waste considerable chunk of transfer funds on a GK to give competition to Reina.

Sell Reina & buy Mignolet. Or keep Reina & get a young keeper who can replace Reina in few years time.

Chaki

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23 Jun 2013 00:48:24
Ed, do do you think we could sign tello and thiago? {Ed002's Note - No.}

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22 Jun 2013 23:53:24
Hi eds any news on King Kenny's or John Barns appointments to roles at the club?

Also when do you think we will hear any more on the stadium?

Thanks

Rushdentillide

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22 Jun 2013 23:50:31
Waro
I like reading everyone's "opinions" on here it's a great way to see how others feel . I don't want to get wrapped up in all the negativity that seems to fall your way ( some is unjust ) or fall out with ANY Liverpool supporters but IMHO the signings LFC are making might not be of the caliber you might expect but like I said earlier you don't have to be the most expensive players in the world to be the best . All players start out in a reserve side or b team at some point . I really think it's time we all stood together and give these players the time they deserve . I have admittedly been negative towards a certain MR Downing ( deadwood ) but thought he worked really hard last season and played well . BR is signing players who are hungry to succeed and this is a good sign for Liverpool . They will work hard to make the squad . If they make it then they will work hard to stay in the team if they don't make it they will work harder to make the squad . These are the attributes BR is looking for and I think this is the way forward . I love LFC I love the supporters but think everyone is entitled an opinion .
YNWA
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22 Jun 2013 23:43:49
Hi Ed's/Red's. Just wanting to throw something out there. With Brendan seemingly going for a sort of 4-2-3-1 formation with a flexible and interchangeable front 4 and all the attacking options either signing or being linked at the moment, it seems as though we have real competition for the 2 deeper midfield slots between Stevie, Lucas, Allen and Henderson (Gerrard IMO will definitely be playing deeper over the last few years of his career), could it be that Henderson is the player that could be developed into more of a defensive midfielder (like the way Lucas adapted) to fill the hole that lots of posters have been asking for? He has a lot of the physical attributes for the role, (Physique, tenaciousness, work rate, has a good first touch, good passer, can get stuck in), is still only 23, and was originally a central midfielder (before Comolli and Dalglish signed him to provide ammunition from the right for Carroll after a brief stint there with Sunderland). We have Conner Coady coming through who, longer term could fill that role also, but needs some more time to be a regular, otherwise he will be spending the vast majority of his time at Liverpool on the bench, which seems a huge waste. I can really see Brendan utilising him in this way and IMO, could work, and would mean we could use resources on other areas (namely defence and Mkhitaryan or alternative). Thanks.

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Completely agree. Hendo & Allen are both capable of being a Carrick for us. Passers who are disciplined and able to "hold" the middle of the park and get the ball to the front 4 ASAP. Both very capable of providing the energy to do the pressing so important these days.

Kidder

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Yep. I agree. Sounds very plausible.

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22 Jun 2013 23:42:52
is there any interest in wanyama? i'm hearing us among other clubs are interested in signing him and there's also rumors that there's a bid accepted buy southampton.

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Wanyama isn't better than what we have already. So better if we could find someone else of better quality than Wanyama.

Chaki

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22 Jun 2013 22:50:07
hi eds&reds questions for all those fans moaning about our recent signings DO you know anything about their mental toughness, their winning mentality or whether they will give a 100% a 100% of the time, probably not! but BR& his team do. So, until you've seen them play for THE REDS do us all a favour & put a sock in it.
redthrough

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22 Jun 2013 22:47:16
can anyone answer why lucas and coutinho don't get into the Brasil team, they have the quality

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Lucas has previously been involved with the Brazilian team but after injuries has lost his place and with so much talent it seems like he might not be a part again until he hits top form again. Coutinho was involved and highly rated in the younger teams with Coutinho being seen as second to Neymar as future stars but after his tough time getting games at Inter he has had to watch from home and now that he has shown his quality with Liverpool he just hasn't had enough time to solidify a spot but he is trying to push on for the world cup and get a call.

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Lucas was in Brazilian team prior to his injury, but I feel he can make it to the WC squad.
Coutinho came good only from January, so still need to deliver consistently going forward if he wants to get in to the Brazil WC squad.

Chaki

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22 Jun 2013 21:32:52
Ed’s, What Italians teams are looking at Suarz? With the other rumors that are floating around I personally think that he would be moving there instead of Spain. With reports of Rooney and Bale possibly to Madrid and Naymar going to Barca. I don’t think that they have the buying power to buy him. Are Munich still looking at him? Since Lewandowski isn’t going there I could see Munich still being interested. {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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22 Jun 2013 23:01:59
Hey Ed's will Liverpool sell suarez for under 50£. I've read that city Will make a move but only for 35-40£.

If Liverpool sell him what do u expect the price will be?


YNWA

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Well he certainly won't be going to city or any other club in england as surely that would just make a mockery of his bitching about the media and fa treating him harshly!

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It'll be a lot more than that. We're talking MILLIONS!

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He wants to move out of England, why would he move to city?

Chaki

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My personal view is that if city are interested the price is the same as Cavani, if they don't like it, then they can go away, and as with Madrid, no cast offs either, only players out of that team I'd want are Aguero or Silva and they won't sell them!

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22 Jun 2013 23:01:48
hey eds, I've a question for you or anyone with knowledge. the premier league are seeking court action to block firstrow sports from showing live matches. this is the site I've always used. would any body know of a site that would still stream live matches.
billy2013

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22 Jun 2013 22:59:10
Anybody know of what players are being released or are out of contract. Is Adorjan's contract up? Think he is a very good player.

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22 Jun 2013 22:42:55
I have been saying for the last two years that Liverpool will be buying young inexpensive players and using players from the Academy as the basis for any squad. There will of course be exceptions (like Toure) but things are panning out as I have said. This is the future of Liverpool. I would also like to point out to the critics that the likes of Downing are not bad players they are just not good enough for Liverpool. That is way they are professionals and the rest of us are just fans!
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