Liverpool Banter Archive June 23 2014

 

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23 Jun 2014 23:15:19
My honest opinion.

If Suarez were to leave I believe we would replace with three strong players. The team may even benefit.

However I would still miss Suarez. I am gutted England went out against Uruguay but I also felt ever so proud that Suarez tried to score not once but twice direct from a corner.

Statistics will tell me that we can improve as a team without Suarez but how do you replace those "OMG - look what he just tried to do" moments.

I just don't remember any Liverpool providing such magic before. It may be blasphemy I know to say it as there have been so many legends at Anfield.

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G1dgo . Suarez have n't left yet . save the tissues till later

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24 Jun 2014 10:41:58
To clarify, if Suarez were to leave for £x then we would not then be spending that same £x on new players. Transfers don't work like that.

We would buy a replacement froward. That's the only deal that would be linked to Suarez leaving.

What I'm saying is, there won't be a pot labelled 'Suarez transfer money' which we will spend on some players. Not to say we wouldn't buy anyone else all summer. Just, they are not all linked back to the Suarez one as "his replacements".

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Puzzled mate, I'm sick of you now. Your persistant reasonable and coherent posts are starting to rub me up the wrong way.

For the love of god, 'strt typin lyk dis blud'. Or at the very least insinuate that Falcao is a realistic option for us. You're making the rest of us look bad!

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EMS, I have to second that comment. Very biased and uninformed opinions of other posters comments

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24 Jun 2014 13:31:06
Just so that I don't take the credit EMS you should make clear you are referring to Puzzled Red and not to my good self

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24 Jun 2014 13:38:45
As much as I love LS playing for us and think it will be impossible to get a like for like replacement, he courts publicity and the hierarchy at our club must dread what he's going to say next.
Agree with many that Sanchez plus £50 million is the very best we can hope for.
If he does stay he will of course have the fans support (speaking for myself) but all these headlines he generates and the constant will he it won't he go to FCB or RM do get tiresome.

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In the same way as last season, I couldn't relax until we were 4-0 up (3 goals was never enough for Liverpool) I won't believe Suarez is staying until 1st September.

I must have been a fool to think my nerves would get a rest in between seasons.

It's hard work being a Liverpool fan but I wouldn't change it for the world!

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23 Jun 2014 22:53:04
Here's one for Harry. Apparently, Ajax have a sell on clause!

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24 Jun 2014 12:43:18
Please man. he is on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

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Think he has already had one posted some weird stuff ont eh other banter page

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23 Jun 2014 21:05:51
ok lads time to own up. what's the most cringe worthy footballers haircut you have have in your time.

Praying someone had the Ronaldo (Brazilian) haircut, you no the one just a finge bald everywhere else, Its on itv covouridge of the world cup were the little boy copies him.

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23 Jun 2014 22:19:15
The 80s spiked up look I looked like God rest him Gary ablett.

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My hair is jet black and I had the famous Robbie Fowler Blonde die in it, leaving it 2 tone. I did a couple of times put a Plaster on my nose also whilst sporting that white and green squared Carlsberg shirt.

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The fowler/matteo died bleach blonde when I was 9

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The Joe Cole red stripe going into a swirl at the side for a bet. It didn't stay long though and I eventually ended up looking like uncle festa. Haha.

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Haha lads i'm still trying to out grow my Sergio aguero haircut, the one he finished the season with shaved up to hairline height on one side then combed over to the other.

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I've still got the Carlos Valderama haircut.

Mrs A has the Taribo West haircut.

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{Ed002's Note - Where?}

I actually had that Ronaldo hairstyle once. although it was by accident!
Went to a new barber who was still learning I think.
I told him that I wanted a short back and sides with grade 1 and just a trim at the top.
He ended up putting a grade 1 on the top and realised his mistake only after most my hair was gone and only the fringe was left.
In the end he decided to make my entire head a grade 1 and left the fringe to create the Ronaldo hairstyle
Free haircut. But I didn't have a girlfriend for about the next three years haha X_X

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24 Jun 2014 06:14:10
yeah what Ed002 said, pics please

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Down his pants Ed!

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I have the zidane you know the one he had where his head was shaved and the bald patch on the back of the top of his head. My missus says its baldness I say its the zz

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Chris waddle! A long long time ago!

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23 Jun 2014 20:57:10
Barcelona interest not as strong as being publicated in media they are resigned to the fact they could not pay the money required in a lump sum coupled with alexis sanchez havin a preference for a move to italy however lfc are interested in the player.real madrid will look for an agreement with regards to installments and suarez tops their summer "wishlist".do not expect 100% of any fee to be reinvested into the team due to ffp and stadium development.

Cheers, andy

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23 Jun 2014 20:55:55
I ll pray to GOD, We won't make another Torres or Suarez at Anfield. If we don't win they would go. The loss would be Inevitable.
Someone rightly said, Either you remain a Mid-table or you must win the title.
4th spot and not the title is the only reason Arsenal have been loosing players.

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23 Jun 2014 21:24:19
That and getting bigger wages of course.

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23 Jun 2014 21:33:04
HF,

I have never thought of it that way, but you could be correct mate.

over the years, finishing 4th has never really done us any favours, apart, of course, qualification to the CL, but that apart, it has just helped us keep a healthy bank balance.

Good post mate.

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23 Jun 2014 21:49:15
Harry man, you're really going overboard with this Suarez stuff. Everyone and their cousin knows how good Suarez is. If he goes, he goes, the world will continue to exist, and life will go on. Your obsession with Suarez is equivalent to a teenage girls first love.

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24 Jun 2014 07:26:44
Harry if he leaves, you could give your love to Lucas?

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Arsenal have been losing players cus whoever's in charge or contracts at arsenal is a fool. The amount of players they allow to run down contracts till the bosman or final year is ludicrous.

They've also had the books to balance for a long period of time. It's very hard being a sustainable club and a title winning club in the modern age.

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24 Jun 2014 12:53:15
Phooey

Done mate. Here I start. Lucas. lucas. lucas.

Bob
I agree, They have been balancing from ages now. Have to see how many more years, the fans going to believe this.

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23 Jun 2014 20:55:02
Was thinking about why we missed out on players lately. if money was the only object, then it's not the type of player I would prefer in the red shirt anyway, but besides the more recent knock backs, why have we missed out in the last 20 years?

A player like Cahill, The West Ham or Southhampton talent fabrication, why is it we miss out. I am worried because I remember the struggle between Highway and Houllier about what homegrown talent we had, and frankly not much more than a handfull has come through since mid to late 90.

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23 Jun 2014 21:29:27
Hard

Good point mate, And the irony is we have been spending at will.

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23 Jun 2014 20:37:55
Eds

Does Brad Jones still have a future with us? seens as we are possibly on the look out for another stopper.

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{Ed002's Note - I don't see why not.}

No chance of Intandje then from Cameroon Ed? Looks a decent unit.

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He was on our books.
We got rid after he was pictured laughing at a Hillsborough memorial.
He's also awful

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Are you joking or being serious Dezmondo? He's been kicked out of Liverpool once already!

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23 Jun 2014 23:10:44
Hope that was a joke Dezmondo.

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24 Jun 2014 07:59:02
Lmao. Yes gents its a joke. I no he was with us at one point and yes he is not very good.

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23 Jun 2014 19:56:30
That moment, When Liverpool fans trying to convince them-self by enormous amount of excuses.

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That moment when you read something then think "is it me or should I stop drinking"

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23 Jun 2014 20:31:31
I kind of see Harry's point, but I have an irrational hatred of poor English

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23 Jun 2014 21:31:27
I am at my very best with 4 down.

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23 Jun 2014 23:42:29
I understand the words your wrote Harry, just not the sentences.

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23 Jun 2014 19:27:40
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{Ed002's Note - Wrong site BBB.}

24 Jun 2014 06:07:56
Apologies Ed002. Still not sure how that happened.
Technology sucks. (User error. )

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23 Jun 2014 19:09:26
Trivia question which I've no idea the answer:
Did Diego Maradonna ever play at Anfield?
One would think that with him being the player of the
1980s and with us being so dominant at the same time
he must has played at AF at some point?
If so did anyone watch him play?

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23 Jun 2014 19:29:59
I don't know about anfield but he was in the barca team that threw away a 2-0 first leg lead at old Trafford to lose 3-2 on agg cup winners cup 84.

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23 Jun 2014 19:51:58
Some one similar to him scored 3 goals for us last season. He was the closest I have seen of Maradona

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Harry, Henderson scored 3 at Anfield last year. But I think you missed the number 1 after the 3 there.

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23 Jun 2014 20:47:11
Piledriver

Spot on. Thank you.

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No maradonna never played at Anfield, I did see Cruyff though in 76 I think it was, can't remember score, think it might have been 0-0, but we won 1-0 away Toshack the scorer, any reds confirm that please, can't be arsed googling it

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He played at ot for barca and for spurs @ white hart lane

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No confirmation hey boys so I've just googled it, it was 1-1 at Anfield in second leg, Phil Thompson with the opener and equaliser by Rexach, can't remember either goal to be honest. Also read Cruyff played for Ajax at Anfield in 66 when they beat us.

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23 Jun 2014 19:02:59
Hi Everyone,

Papers full of Suarez Out Stories today.

I believe Ed002 is correct and unfortunately Luis Suarez is going to be transferred to one of the Spanish Giants.
I consider this to be a massive blow, and while I will fully get behind the manager and the replacement he brings in, I don't think we will be able to challenge as we did last season without Suarez.
That's one possibility.
On the other hand, if Sanchez is the replacement and Rogers uses the money to tighten the defence, then we may not be the same attacking force we were last season, but could still be successful.
As Kenny would say, We want players here that want to be here.

YNWA
Faizal

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23 Jun 2014 19:13:45
Agree100% my friend.Well said

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I agree to a certain extent Faizal. I do think he will leave and I think we will be fine as will replace him. We have goals all over the team and if Sanchez is included in any deal then that would be great

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23 Jun 2014 19:51:53
agree with the post as well but it might take more than one player to replace him . if we use the money wisely its onwards and upwards for us I say

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23 Jun 2014 19:53:43
Everyone want to be with a club who win the title ( Top Players ). You cannot blame Suarez or Torres. We haven't won anything since Torres left.
If you keep the same excuse year after year, We would be loosing our star players.

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Teams will be (and I appreciate due to his unpredictability that is difficult) better prepared for us next season; maybe a change in formation / players will help us.

Also maybe having a few better players in more positions will also help.

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23 Jun 2014 20:36:17
We got to 2cup finals without Torres and won 1 of them ,selective memory, young Harry

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23 Jun 2014 21:32:43
Cricket

Mate, You said about the FA cup and Carling cup?. In-between He won the CL.

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This may shock you Harry, but Torres never won us a single trophy during his time here.

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23 Jun 2014 22:09:02
You said we had won nothing since Torres left.I was just reminding you that we had.

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24 Jun 2014 08:13:29
EMS

I agree, But we could have in 2008/09, When Benitez blewed it up and then it all went wrong from there.

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24 Jun 2014 06:07:26
Faizal

Sorry Mate, But Ed002 have never stated he is leaving, There might be a possibility of a player involving deal from Barca. That doesn't mean he is off to Barca.
TBH I don't think they would even bid for him.

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23 Jun 2014 18:56:27
If Suarez goes, he goes. We should get a hefty amount of money in return & maybe a great player coming the other way too. I don't think we should go crazy & spend all the cash. We have to be prudent with our money from now on, so a window of Can, Lambert & maybe Moreno, Lovren, Lallana & Sanchez would be fantastic! As long as we are spending our funds wisely & trying to balance the books I'm happy. Suarez is an AMAZING player, but he wants to go, let him. I don't want him to go, but no point letting it ruin our summer either.

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23 Jun 2014 18:51:01
Eds has anyone shown any interest in memphis dupay. looks like a crackin young player and electric pace

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, but not Liverpool.}

23 Jun 2014 18:21:04
Hi Eds

Do you expect us to be back in the running for Lovren and Lallana after the World Cup and when the window is open? Also I've read that Moreno is not dead in water and very much still on.

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{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

23 Jun 2014 18:31:54
Asking the same questions everyday, and expecting different answers? Odd.

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I've not asked the same question everyday Puzzled Red at all! But plenty of others do. Try not to be disrespectful to other posters and maybe ask a few of your own.

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Maybe I should ask about Suarez seems as that's not been repeated o. Here much today has it? FFS

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23 Jun 2014 19:16:58
Hey.Dezmondo,you got my respect for speaking up for yourself.

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Thanks Jiminy, it's always been my way mate, everyone should speak up for them selves, I don't get why other posters slate or try to make others look thick with there daft comments. We don't get to see them all obviously as some are removed.

I read every post daily and only try to ask questions that I believe are relevant.

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23 Jun 2014 19:55:21
The Ed wouldn't be using acronyms of blasphemy if he weren't annoyed.

I don't ask questions regularly because this is not a Q & A site it's a banter page!

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I agree Puzzled Red. Its a pain in the arse and Dezmondo is one of the worst culprits.

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Well Puzzled Red this page is full of Q & A all day long. But never from you, intact you seem just to comment or criticise others posts.

You agree do you Irish Rover? Jolly good then chaps. let's keep the Banter going its awfully good reading.

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23 Jun 2014 21:37:38
Questions and Answers start debates which include banter.A prime example.It would be a bit boring if we all agreed now wouldn't it.? Oh I forgpt Desmondo, IShould rtfp to make sure nobodys asked that question this month.Just teasing you Puzzled and Irish.No Offence.

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Dezmondo you have eased off a bit lately, actually a lot, but you did ask the same questions about the same players regularly to the point I reckon you were either taking the p**s or on some sort of commission from theirs.

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Its a lot better than the monotonous questions asked by your good self every day of the week. Which get met with a RTFP.

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Fair point Alanhuyton, point taken. I think we all get cought in the same madness tbh. Banter is healthy but not insults ay. If we all dived in then most posts wouldn't get put up. Jiminy your bang on. It's good we all don't agree on everything.

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Give it a rest guys.

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The Eds must be laughing their pants off at this. :-)

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23 Jun 2014 17:53:35
Eds fellow reds, just a quick question / debate . The owners and club management have stated time and time again that we need champs league .this will increase revenue and incorrage better players to our club? I know it still early and word cups on but we are still getting gazumped by teams not in champs league . Ie spurs are after same players again as us. Is it purely down to money with these players now .

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{Ed002's Note - No, much of it is down to fans thinking Liverpool are "linked with" hundreds of different players - they are not.}

23 Jun 2014 17:53:35
Eds fellow reds, just a quick question / debate . The owners and club management have stated time and time again that we need champs league .this will increase revenue and incorrage better players to our club? I know it still early and word cups on but we are still getting gazumped by teams not in champs league . Ie spurs are after same players again as us. Is it purely down to money with these players now .

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23 Jun 2014 17:32:57
Personally, I think Suarez is a cracking player and I always enjoy watching him play. I know I'll get a lot of slating on here but I wouldn't mind him moving on now. We'd get prime money for him and it must be a total nightmare for BR and the club to make plans each summer not knowing if he is staying or going. I'm sure it would be a lot easier for the club to have 2-3 high quality players who are totally committed and loyal and wouldn't be so much hard work for the club?

Just a thought.

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23 Jun 2014 18:08:54
You can never say if any transfer is any good until a year or two down the line and if the replacement does a job for the team. It's all guess work.

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23 Jun 2014 18:17:13
Suarez is one of very few players in the world who are truly world class.

Selling him would be a big mistake I think.

I think some posters on here think we could sign "2-3" high quality players if he left. Realistically we MIGHT sign 1 player of (for argument's sake) Sanchez's quality to replace Suarez but I think that would largely be it.

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23 Jun 2014 19:55:22
Puzzled

Spot on with the Puzzle You got the dice right this time

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If Suarez does not want to play for Liverpool and wants to ply his trade in Spain then what can you do? Hold him at gun point? Under house arrest? I would rather have players that want to be here and I do understand how difficult it is to replace him. Basically you can't do a like for like exchange so I guess we have to find a style that will make us as effective without him. Life will go on without Suarez. Trust me! It did when Keegan left, Rush left, Kenny stopped, Fowler, Owen.

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23 Jun 2014 20:49:02
The Irish

Thats exactly he said last year. FYI, He hasn't utter a single word yet. let's nor crook up some stories which might happen like Titanic coming back.

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23 Jun 2014 20:53:26
The Irish

Trust me. UTD, SPURS, CITY, CHELSA and Arsenal weren't challenging for the title those time.
Look at UTD, They just lost a manager and now struggling for Top4

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23 Jun 2014 17:02:57
Hi all without wanting to open a can of worms I'd like to assure you all that my last post on this site (under a different sign off which was banned) wasn't ment in the way it came across. Had I have realised before hand how it would come across I wouldn't of posted it & had I not of been banned immediately I'd of been able to explain myself easily. However the problems it no doubt caused I completely understand the immediate ban. Maybe in light of this I have a potential improvement. perhaps some way for an editor to intervene for example say "have a read of that again are you sure that's what was meant" or maybe a sort after a post has got through & the guys been banned a way of communication so the guy could explain himself so the editor perhaps? Anyway sorry for that.

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23 Jun 2014 16:59:58
The site. What about patients and just seing what happens. Ar reet said. One frustrated red!

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{Ed002's Note - I believe there are many here who should be patients.}

Just a brilliant reply

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23 Jun 2014 15:54:59
Lets be honest, prior to the summer, everyone was convinced Suarez' get out clause was for if we didn't get into the Champions League. Why all of a sudden has this now changed. Its just journalists trying to sell papers.

So okay what if Suarez is sold this summer. We could get Sanchez in place of him, great! Sterling - Struridge - Sanchez, sounds good!

A lot of people are saying we HAVE to spend all the money we get for him and bring in other players and that FSG will have to show their real intentions for the club. i'm sorry but that's just daft! So you are telling me you would rather see FSG spend let's say 90mil on players, and potentially end up like Spurs? They have a lot more sense than that, Rodgers has his plan in place on who he wants to bring in, and he will do that thinking Suarez will stay. If Suarez leaves then surly we only need 1 player extra then to replace him, no point spending 90mil on 4/5 players to replace 1 player is there!? So come on, be realistic, if Suarez stays great! If he doesn't then don't be under the silly illusion that we should spend every penny on bringing in a load of players, it doesn't work!

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23 Jun 2014 15:11:54
If Suarez was sold to Barcelona, with Sanchez either included as a swap or an agreement made to buy him from Barcelona with part of the proceeds.

Add to this the possibility of then purchasing Balotelli who would come to us in a similar situation as Suarez under a cloud but with the potential to be one of the best players on the planet with the right structure around him.

And possible £30m in surplus if the figures quoted in the press are anywhere near correct, would you be happy with this.

If we can pull that off and land the key centre halfs and maybe one more midfielder I would be sorry to see him go but would accept that the departure of Suarez would put us in a stronger position for the future and give greater depth for the forth coming season.

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We have Sturridge. What would we do with Ballotelli?

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I would not go anywhere near Balotelli he is trouble and will disrupt our team.

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Would that be Bad Boy Ball Breaker Ballotelli - who does everyone's head in?

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There is a difference but, Suarez wears his heart on his sleeve and works his a**e off whereas Balotelli seems as if he doesn't give a s**t weather his side win or lose.

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23 Jun 2014 17:16:51
Balletoli could make any club famous.

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23 Jun 2014 18:26:22
Anyone even suggesting that name needs their head testing.

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I agree Davey. Just crazy to even suggest that head case.

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23 Jun 2014 20:51:40
Dave

hahah lols. Seems some gunners and Wenger need testing. that's the Rumours getting up

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23 Jun 2014 13:43:35
Afternoon Reds and Eds.
Just to put a different slant on all the transfer rumours regarding Suarez/Sanchez etc, what does everyone feel would be the impact on the team if Suarez left? I know it sounds a dumb question, because he is arguably the best player in the world on form right now, and a like for like replacement would be impossible, but what impact would it have on the way we play? It is worth noting over the last two seasons that with Suarez playing we score more goals (2.3 per game against 1.8 when he isn't in the side), but even more telling is that we actually concede less when he isn't in the team (0.6 per game against 1.3 when he plays)
Do his constant runs and movement, while creating chances, actually put more pressure on the midfield covering and lead to more opposition goals?
It may just be lies, damned lies and statistics, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.
This post is over on the other page as well if you would like to reply. cheers guys.

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23 Jun 2014 14:11:39
He brings confidence, Quality and above all 3 points. The only player apart from Suarez who could panic the whole defensive unit by constatnt charging and clever movements is none other than the legend Diego Maradona.

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Go visit the other page Harry, and I'll give my thoughts on that!.

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Its clear from the defensive stats that when he plays he completely distracts our defenders, they are just watching him with amazement and switch off.

Only a complete nutter would stay a Liverpool right now if Barca and Real Madrid came knocking at the door for a deal - so there is still a good chance he will be staying! because he is barking mad that fella.

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23 Jun 2014 18:29:10
You have accepted there may be limitations in your statistics. Which is good. Because there are.

We're a much better team WITH Suarez. It's undeniable.

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23 Jun 2014 13:15:00
Martin Samuel is giving Stevie g some stick today in the mail.

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23 Jun 2014 13:31:53
The whole media is giving him stick after the horror show in the WC

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23 Jun 2014 15:16:13
That's funny I thought football was a team game.Stevie g Y.N.W.A

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Stuff em and come home Stevie boy.

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23 Jun 2014 12:42:48
I have seen a rumour that Barcelona have opened bidding for Suarez at £68million. Which supposedly matches his release clause. Any truth to this bid?

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23 Jun 2014 12:52:50
Should the bid have been 68,000,001?

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Lol, I'm sure they mentioned it somewhere ;-), the Eds don't like discussing finances, fees and items within player contracts.

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That question wasn't necessarily to an ed…this is the banter page I'm sure figures raises speculation therefore we banter.

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23 Jun 2014 12:29:00
Hi Ed

I asked the question before regarding Sanchez and would he actually be intersted in coming to LFC, if Luis was to move on?

Has interest been registered via the two clubs and players representitives?

I appreciate you are a busy man, but the 'copy and paste' reply you gave me, I have read 50 times alreday as asnwers to anything regarding Alexis Sanchez.

Are you hiding something from us eds?. Is the Suarez to Barca / Sanchez to Liverpool deal looking increasingly likely?

Thanks in anticipation Eds

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{Ed002's Note - That is all there is about Sanchez right now.}

23 Jun 2014 12:10:26
Hi Eds, I'd like to know your opinion on a replacement for Gerrard who's 34 now and has around 2 seasons left, injuries providing.

Obviously Henderson plays next to Gerrard with forward runs, with Allen and Lucas good players in their own right, but we don't have a player in the middle of the standard of Gerrards prime who now dictates play with passing.

Basically my question is would you bring someone through like Rossiter and does he have the ability. Or if not who would you like to replace Gerrard?

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{Ed002's Note - Can? Hughes perhaps?}

If you want my opinion on the matter, Can is far to good going forward to shackle him into a holding role. He can cover the position, but like Henderson he is better utilised as a box to box midfielder. Eventually I see Jordan Rossiter stepping up to play the holding role in a diamond with Hendo on the right, Can on the left and Sterling behind the strikers or as part of a front three out wide. Coutinho is a Brazilian and like all South Americans will eventually want to play in Spain or Italy. It's a squad game though and until he chooses to leave he'll never lack game time with us because when he's on form he is unstoppable. I can see Allen and Pelosi being squad players in our midfield for years to come and perhaps Delle Ali will come in and fight to earn his place too. In the mean time we just need a player to replace Gerrard in the short term if Lucas is also to leave. Gerrard cannot be expected to play 50+ games next year and Can is just wasted when played too deep.

A move for Khedeira certainly wouldn't suprise me if Lucas is sold.

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23 Jun 2014 12:54:34
Khadiera would cost us some money, And I don't see Lucas getting sold. Khadiera is interesting couple of other teams aswell.

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23 Jun 2014 14:34:36
You beat me to it East Midlands Scouser. I would think the obvious successor (should he fulfill his potential) is Rossiter. At 17 (and already promoted to first team roster) I see similarities in the progression through the ranks between him and the young Stevie G.

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23 Jun 2014 16:41:40
Jordan Rossiter is 3yrs away from being a first team regular mate. He will get starts in the league cup, but Brendan wouldn't push him that young. Let's see what Can does before we start shouting for a 17 yr old.

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23 Jun 2014 17:18:23
And Can is just 3 years older to Rossiter. Excellent.

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23 Jun 2014 18:32:39
Harry make sure your rooms tidy before your Mum gets home.

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23 Jun 2014 20:57:05
Jimny

Thanks mate, I am all over the place today.

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In my opinion Jordan Rossiter is two years away from the main team (he is progressing really fast). and nobody suggested he should come in straight away. the initial comment asked what we will do in two seasons time when Stevie G is probably incapable of playing his current role. Rossiter, seems to me, answers that call. As has been said, Can might prove to be fantastic all across midfield but competition in all positions and at all times is a desirable objective for a team anyway.

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23 Jun 2014 12:04:13
Hi eds
I think now may be the time to start deleting some of the suarez posts (just kidding ) because today almost every post has been about suarez just the same old stuff wound around in different ways
cmon guys we all knew there was a chance he might leave so why overreact last summer he wanted out we kept him just *chillax*
Just please please talk about something else eg why we should go back for Konoplyanka. / why Rojo would be a very viable option. /where does Harry gets his figures from etc
and if you have too much spare time come over to the other banter page
rant over
a frustrated Liverpool supporter

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Send the Suarez posts over to Reets page haha.

Red Rum

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In that case I'll go mad rr
p.s you should come over to the other banter page

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23 Jun 2014 11:40:25
Hi to all the EDS and fellow REDS

Yes, it is annoying reading about Real or Barca aiming to bid for Suarez, annoying and irritating, yes. But unless, we go into CL (with Suarez) and beat the likes of Real or Barca, this will continue. Maybe then their players would want to come to play for Liverpool. Now wouldn't that be a kiss on the cheek?
It's quiet on the transfer front because of the WC, but I'm sure Brendan will have us ready to fire on all cylinders. And fellow fans, Suarez is happy here, it's all media nonsense and most importantly of all, after last summer, everyone knows that FSG play 'hardball', so things will only happen if and when FSG decides they should.
The club is in good hands. Rest easy.
YNWA
P.S. Always thank the EDs for the work they do. Always.

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23 Jun 2014 12:07:14
We will never be as big as barca or Real Madrid. They'll always trump us as global brands, income, fan base, stadia, wages and transfer fees. And it may seem silly but, the weather!

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Things would happen if his release clause is met and suarez decides he wants to leave nothing fsg can do about it.That's the main reason he signed a new contract to avoid what happened last summer not because he's happy here like he claims

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Things would happen if his release clause is met and suarez decides he wants to leave nothing fsg can do about it.That's the main reason he signed a new contract to avoid what happened last summer not because he's happy here like he claims

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Unfortunately, benny your spot on. Barca and Real will always be referred to as the BIG 2 even after Messi and Ronaldo have gone. They negotiate their own T.V. rights which gives them nearly 40% combined of la liga's broadcasting revenue, leaving the other clubs to feed off the scraps. Unfortunately for LFC, that is not the case in the premier league. Also, they have much bigger stadiums with less competition for sponsorships, giving them a much bigger windfall than any premier league club. Like IranRed said, whooping them in the champions league would be a good start to stop our players wanting to move to them. However with their financial muscle, they would just offer higher wages to any player they want, and eventually get them.

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23 Jun 2014 13:34:17
Indian Buzzer

But we did smash a Real madird and beat a Barca quiet convincingly. Madrid last won the CL 12 years back and Barca couldn't do anything before 2005.

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Harry we beat those two more than 5 years ago. I doubt anyone other than LFC fans remember that. We spent the last 4 years in mediocrity and we need to start all over again. World class players will not come to LFC because of the glorious past, they will only come if our club has the possibility of having a successful future, which would match their ambitions. Barca and Real also pay much higher wages than we do, so they will always have the upper hand. Plus who wouldn't want to play alongside the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar?

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23 Jun 2014 14:59:28
Indian

I agree, But then They are always the Big 2 doesn't make sense. I remember we were above all the biggies in 2008-2009. Absolute worlds Best.
But As you suggest to build something for the future should start from this season. Ronaldo has won a CL and a League title with Real in 4 years. that's not a execptional figure. So what is that keeps him at the club?
Sancehz + Cash and all these nonsesne is just a school boy maths. These things doesn't work in real life.

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23 Jun 2014 15:01:49
Although you're right Harry with regards to our results (100% against RM - 2 matches - and 33% against Barca - 2 wins, 2 losses, 2 draws in 6 games). I'm not sure what that has to do with the size of their stadia, their sponsorship deals, branding or finances. On revenue figures calculated in May and on the Forbes list they the are 1st and 2nd most valuable football teams on the planet at a worth of $3,440m RM and $3,200m Barcelona. we are 10th at a worth of $691m. Camp Nou holds 98,000 spectators (being increased to 105,000) and the Estadio Santiago Bernabéu has a capacity of 85,454 but might change in the stadium refurbishment for 2017. RMs operating income is $172m (2014 figures) their revenue was $675m. Barcelona similarly has operating income of $154m (under Man Utd) but revenue of $627m. We have an operating income of $61m and revenue of $331m.
In other words the gulf is huge. and in my opinion much of this is straight-forwardly down to Hicks & Gillette not delivering on their stadium promise during their awful tenure but the recent inability to not qualify for the UEFA CL has not helped matters either. Yes, we can beat them but I'm not sure we will ever overcome their financial dominance of the game in the world. I might be a bit doom and gloom but it's realistic enough to know we're improving now we're in good hands. slowly, but improving.

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23 Jun 2014 15:17:44
Reynard

I know this stuff. But then what's Chelsea and City doing with thier Prized asstes?
Cant see City selling Aguero, Unless they buy another Aguero, Same goes with Chelsea.
And let's be honest here, Chelsea aren't buying anything from their Owner's pocket currently.
They don't have a huge stadium or anythings such as Real or Barca.
The Reality, We still have some deadwoods who would not take the club to anymore further. And the one who gets sacrficed are players like Torres and Suarez.
If you don't win anything in another 2 years. You could see Sturridge and Sterling Joining the party.

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23 Jun 2014 10:49:19
Can I have another Name apart from Suarez who would get us 30 goals next seaosn, Leaving the Assist?
No more settling down. No more physicality. No more transition and no more Excuses.
Then you have a deal with any club, Or else back off.

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I could fo that job

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Looks like Harry is on the verge of a serious emotional breakdown. Get over it mate. Suarez will be gone soon and if we get Sanchez as part of the deal along with a huge chunk of cash to improve our defense, I would be more than happy.

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23 Jun 2014 15:30:53
The last time we won the title in 1989-90 John Barnes was our top scorer in the league with 22 goals (the top scorer that season was Gary Lineker or Alan Smith). A player scoring 30+ goals a season is not a fundamental requirement. A front-line that scores more than the opponents and a defense that concedes less than the opponents is what wins games and titles. Plus you have no guarantee that Suarez will get anything like 30+ goals next season (although I hope he stays). only Shearer has repeated the effort.
I'm simply pointing out that assumptions don't always help and the goal scoring stat you went with isn't really always as important as people think. In the entire 22 year history of the premiership the winning club has only provided the top scorer (or shared top scorer) on 9 occasions. I'm not saying it's not important but I'm indicating that defense is absolutely important from a statistical perspective. Defense is our big weakness at the moment and it has still to be appropriately addressed.

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23 Jun 2014 10:40:41
Do you think Suarez is trying to engineer a move away as the papers report? Or is it the papers/agents stirring the transfer pot to generate larger offers and competition between Real and Barca? Personally if the lads happy I want him to stay, but if its the old Suarez (Ajax scenario) and we get Sanchez plus enough money to cement lalana, lovren and a LB then maybe its a good deal for us.

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23 Jun 2014 10:35:57
Can the club file a complaint against these media BS. This is anoying to death. Do they have a hidden camera inside his skin to check what the hell he wants. Absolute ridiculous.

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23 Jun 2014 11:47:21
Now you know what it is to be a Saints supporter!
No intention to pull your leg about being a feeder club to bigger outfits, but IMO there is a basis for the Suarez reports and it will happen this summer.
There are certain players who want to play in the CL. There are a very few who want to win it, and are seen by clubs with that same ambition as key to their success. Suarez is in the latter category and this will drive him to make such a move.

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Clint dempsey comes to mind

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23 Jun 2014 12:58:32
St Marrys

I certainly feel your pain, If Lallana hasn't said anything publically. Suarez fortunatly hasn't utter a word. The only thing happening is because He beat an ordinary England Team?

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23 Jun 2014 20:58:02
At least we will have a break from any transfer dealings at StMarys.

The management will just be too busy explaining to Luke that it is important to keep his tackle clean otherwise he will end up with more than a red card! And that there is now no chance of a new shirt with Shaw and 3 printed on it! (Perhaps it was a cunning -excuse the suggestive note-to engineer a move into midfield.)

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23 Jun 2014 10:25:36
Just read some sad news. Red Sox manager of Production and games operations, Jack Lanzillotti and his girlfriend Jessica Campbell have sadly died as a result of a car crash. As our brother club across the pond, I think it is only right that we spare a thought for the tragic loss of these lives. You Will Never Walk Alone Jack and Jessica. Rest in peace. I'm sure neither of you will ever be forgotten And my ccondolences go out to the families and friends of both of these poor souls.

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Thank you for posting, I wasn't aware of that. That's awful news and our thoughts and wishes are with their family and friends.

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Ill second that. Sad news indeed. May they Rest In Peace

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My thoughts go out to their families and friends msy they rest in peace

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EMS-thank you for that post; sad indeed; a sudden loss of life in such a cruel manner is heart wrenching for any family; thoughts, prayers and well wishes to their family

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23 Jun 2014 12:53:11
Rip condolances to the familys bereaved Y.N.W.A.

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23 Jun 2014 09:58:25
I have noticed that the majority of negative story's about Liverpool Football Club originate from a website called
It appears most start from there or similar sites and then into the Daily Mail or Daily Star as 'it is reported that.'
Many made up story's about Suarez
The Liverpool Echo reports that Liverpool have had no contact over Suarez and a possible move anywhere
Also in reports, that in Liverpool's discussions with Barcelona regarding Sanchez, that Suarez has not been brought up at all
Don't click onto , they are only after hits and spreading misinformation about our club

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The Liverpool Echo (the best source for reliable info.) reports that Liverpool have had no contact over Suarez and a possible move anywhere
Also in reports, that in Liverpool's recent discussions with Barcelona regarding Sanchez, that Suarez has not been brought up at all

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Dylanjohara
You are either NOT a Liverpool fan, playing with yourself on this site, or if you ARE, then mate, you are a kingsize walley for believing all the tosh.

No Liverpool fan would even contemplate believing Suarez would leave if they read it in the 'star' or 'scum' or other toilet paper tabloids. So.

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23 Jun 2014 09:42:22
I believe suarez has played his last game for Liverpool with barca and Madrid both willing to do whatever it takes to get Liverpool to sanction the sale.
While it will be a sad day to see him move on I think back to the Torres sale and how I thought we could never replace him and we did.
Im now more nervous about who we get in with funds the Suarez deal will bring in.

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23 Jun 2014 10:36:52
He is not leaving mate, Just ignore the Press. Barca don't have a peny to spend.

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Its fans like you who believe suarez will go and that we could do better with other players, suarez is a one off, no one on this planet could replace him not even messi or ronaldo, suarez would be a great loss and is 10 times better than torres the traitor, why can't fans like you say no we don't want him to go, all the money in the world would not replace suarez, if he is good enough to play for barca or RM, we should be getting our team like barca and RM, where top players want to play for us, we should be the top of all the top players in the world, have you see in writing that suarez has said he want to leave, no he has said he loves the club and wants to stay and win things with us, so do you believe if suarez or one of his mates or family read this site and reads posts like your showing no loyalty, you have not said we should keep him at any cost but its not just you many fans on here are the same already excepting that he will leave, even some fans have gone on about his past even though last year he never done anything wrong

so instead of saying we should keep suarez at all cost your only going on about a replacement and the money

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23 Jun 2014 13:00:45
I kinda agree to Mickey. No one would replace him. England game is the latest Example. He wasnt fit, He wasnt ready. Others would have trolled with reasons. Any top class p�layer would need a top class game to score 2 goals, He just did it within seconds. And that's 3 points for the nation.

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How can you call torres is a traitor and then say that suarez loves the club?
The same guy that he wanted to leave last summer, as well as call everyone running it a bunch of liers?
Again last summer he tried everything he could to get his move, at least torres had some respect for the club.
I am not defending torres, I hope rots on Chelsea bench.

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23 Jun 2014 09:03:04
Morning Eds

The sanchez / Saurez thing has been done to death, but what I want to know is this

Is Sanchez interested in a move to Liverpool (If Suarez moves on)

Have the club registered interest with Barca or the players representitives to make them aware of the situation (If Suarez leaves) that BR would want to bring him to the club as Luis's replacement

If they have registered the interest. surley that's as good as saying the club are willing to sell him Suarez?

Thanks in advance Eds

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{Ed002's Note - There has been some interest from Manchester United, Juventus and Arsenal. Barcelona will be willing to let Sanchez move on and would be open to using him in a player exchange deal. There have been discussions Juventus in respect of Sanchez and there is no secret that his agent has confirmed that they would be willing to meet the terms that the player desires. However, they are far from agreeing a figure with Barcelona for the sale - very far indeed. Barcelona will be willing to let Sanchez move on for a very significant fee or would be open to using him in a player exchange deal. Barcelona were looking to replace Fabregas with Vidal and were looking to that as an option whilst there is such a difference between what is being asked and what is being offered. However, with talks dragging on and Juventus wanting to keep Vidal their attention shifted from Vidal to Koke and then to Rakitic. There remains the thought that Sanchez might be part of a deal for Suarez.}

23 Jun 2014 08:57:51
i know we don't talk about release clause and termination clauses, money etc.but if suarez does have one and real madrid or barca are planning to activate it by including players in px then surely this isn't possible as they would obviously value there players differntly to what we would!so in my eyes they either have to offer the full price in his clause(if thetre is one) or we have to come to agreement on players value in the px change which if we want to keep suarez tht much I don't think we will agree.IMO

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23 Jun 2014 08:52:58
Why is it that 5 weeks ago when I said Suarez would probably leave and suggested Sanchez would be a good replacement I got shot to pieces? "He's the best player on earth, selling him means we'll never compete again" ; "look at what happened with Bale" Etc.

All of a sudden now it's more clear that he's leaving the same posters who crucified me are all jumping on the Sanchez bandwagon. I swear over half the regulars on here are bipolar!

I'm glad you've all come back down to earth though. Like I said a month ago, cross your fingers and hope he stays, but if I doesn't it is not the end of the world.

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I'd still be hoping for stephan el sharaawy

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Ahhh the Pharaoh! Yes he is great. I must admit though, I don't watch a great deal of Italian football because I quite simply find it boring. German, French, Spanish, English and Dutch yes. I just struggle to get into Portuguese and Italian though. Portuguese is too much of a one horse race every year and Italian is just slow and boring. I only know know of players from clubs in those leagues if I see them play in European games. I do like Sporting Lisbon mind, since they thumped us in the Next Gen series I've watched them a lot.

I've liked what little I've seen of the Pharaoh. I'm told he suffers with injury problems though?

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EMS - When people get caught up in conjecture with no foundation you get all of these inane posters, especially so when fuelled by the mindless reporters from some of the rags.

they will link you to every player under the sun, they will dredge up old stories to feed the desperate masses starved of football who are dying for a little crumb of news, be it truthful or complete fabrication.

This Suarez thing has been done to death; the Eds have confirmed there is no release clause, but its still a debate.

I absolutely love Suarez and in my 35+ years of supporting my beloved Liverpool I have had the pleasure of watching some of the most amazing players in a red shirt, and he ranks up there amongst the best.

If he wants to leave, good luck to him, as much as I love Suarez, I love my club more; after Suarez's career is over, LFC will still be here, and we will have players replacing him, who could be as good if not better than him; we just don't know, we all felt the same after Torres left, and in came Suarez.

My point is we do not know what the future holds, and people stressing about what could be or couldn't be is just pointless, negative and a waste of time.

If Suarez was to go, I would love Sanchez to come in and I hope FSg do what's best for LFC financially in such a circumstance. If he stays; fantastic, compliment our team by also going for Sanchez :) rather than some of the other players linked (running at circa 100+).

What we don't know, we don't know.

Que sera, sera my Red friends.

Peace out
JFT
YNWA

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Lets be honest there are not many like for like replacements kicking around.

Lavezzi, Tevez and Aguero are pretty much it, but Suarez is the best of his breed.

We could go more out and out striker with Cavani, Balotelli or Lacazette.

We could go for a winger and revert to a 4-3-3 with Di Maria, Pedro or Candreva.

Personally I'd go for a more versatile forward who can play as a wide midfielder or a second striker alongside Sturridge; Sanchez, Reus or Müller.

Not many of these players are viable let alone attainable!

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Excellent post RedSanity. Couldn't agree more. let's hope he stays, but not begrudge him a move should he decide it's what's best for his career. If he does go to Catalonia, let's just hope we beat Barcelona 3-0 in the Champions league final courtesy of an Alexis Sanchez hattrick ;)

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23 Jun 2014 10:39:50
He must stay. We have to convince him to stay. We cannot afford another start from the fresh and transition. He rates Gerrard pretty high and I firmly believe He would stay.
The look on the face of England players, When He scored the first tells you How brilliant he is.
Sturridge and Sterling were Stunned.

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This may be a controversial statement but for me the pharaoh is the only player attainable that can replace suarez has age on his side and is massively talented I watch a lot of ac milan on theoother hand I do think either of jese Rodriguez / sanchez would do the job
p.s emc come over to the other banter page

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EMS if he does go to Catalonia; I hope we meet them in the final and win in the 95th minute courtesy of a corner from which Simon Mignolet scores through a ricochet off his back side from a deflected shot by Sakho ;) all aided by Reina (who makes his move there finally), coming out for the corner and flapping at it and punching it into Mascheranos path, who tries a clearance and puts it into Sakhos path, his thunderbolt deflects off Messi's knee onto Simons Derriere and GOOOOOOOAAAAALLLLLL.

Or some other ridiculous, outrageous scenario:).

and Harry; human nature is such that we as fans have an irrational love for our club (just ask the wives, not sure how old you are. ); but with some players they will come; we will fall in love with them, and they will leave, and we will either hate on them (Torres, Masch), or wish them the best (Xabi Alonso); not all footballers are your Gerrard type who will stay loyal (even though he did flirt with Chelski), to one club. At the moment it is all conjecture, we do not know what is being discussed, and as mentioned previously, if he was to go; we should thank him for his service to the club and wish him the best whilst doing what is right by LFC financially.

with regards to transition, this may not be the case, we still have a very good spine which Brendan is trying to strengthen, it's all about quality additions who will supplement this team and try and progress on last years performance; if we as fans loved the style of play last year, let's put a bit of faith in our manager to find the right players for our system so we can make that step up, with or without Suarez.

Peace out

JFT96
YNWA

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RedSanity

ive a;ready posted the same about getting sanchez to play next season with suarez, sterling sturridge that would be the best attack in the world

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I think the same way as RedSanity. Great post! Personnally I don't see Suarez leaving this summer.Its just what I think myself. I really hope he stays put for Champions League football, and another shot at the league title.
I don't read or buy into all the rag hype. The best info on what is happening in our club or what may happen, is on this site!
The club knows what's best for the club.
As RedSanity puts it, Que sera, sera!

RedShankley

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23 Jun 2014 13:05:47
RED SANITY

I agree, But then Y is hazzrd not wanting out of Chelsea, Certainly he would be a brilliant adition to Madrid or Barca. Y is Liverpool players wanting to go out.
Loving them, Ofcourse isn't that this game is all about.
Unless we don't stop this flow of players from us to any club, We are certainly not going to win anything or just being another Arsenal ( I love them though)

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23 Jun 2014 08:21:18
If Suarez leaves I think we should look to someone young but proven who will only get better, it's hard to think of anyone really! Not saying we'd have a chance but I wouldn't feel great with spending 60 million or whatever it costs to get falcao ( who's 29 in February) or cavani we need to be shrewd I'd much rather (and some would say I'm mad) get Sanchez and give borini a chance up front with sturridge, in spite of all this I I honestly think we won't sell we'll just value him so high it's would be near impossible!

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I've always liked mueller.I'm not the biggest fan of sanchez.

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23 Jun 2014 13:50:45
Love müller but think he's signing new deal

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23 Jun 2014 08:14:17
Can anyone help me?
I may have missed something but everyone is talking about Suarez wanting to leave etc

Did he announce this over last few days and I missed it? Or is this the normal Suarez Probably wants to go as sees Spain as destination but actually has not said anything this time around?

Sorry to ask but genuinely interested

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23 Jun 2014 10:22:14
same old story transfer window starts and the suarez is leaving bandwagon starts.

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23 Jun 2014 10:40:54
He fortunately haven't utterd a single word till now. Thank to GOD.

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23 Jun 2014 07:05:54
IMO if Suarez wants to go we should let him (not that I think we will have a choice if Barca or RM come in for him).

For me A Sanchez and £50+ would be a great deal.

If were struggling to find the cash required to get the likes of Albert Moreno fee structure were not exactly going to be able to improve the squad that much with the players who will improve the squad that BR wants.

I personally think Sanchez would suit us perfectly as a replacement for Suarez. He might not score the same number of goals but who would.

£70/80m buys us 3 or 4 really good players plus whatever money we get from players sales. Need to look at the long term and also realise were not able to compete in the transfer market with the overpriced fees for the top players that the likes of City, Chelsea, Utd are willing to blow.

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Why should we just let him go?

He should go only if a club meets our valuation. Be a bit more Daniel Levy/Mike Ashley when negotiating.

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23 Jun 2014 07:50:16
He's not saying just let him go Ken. He's saying Sanchez and 50 is a good deal, in his opinion.

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23 Jun 2014 08:05:58
As much as I love Suarez, I'd have to agree. However unrealistic, that would be an offer too good to turn down IMO.

We need a winger anyway, so it would just leave us with £50 million to buy another striker and fill the other holes.

Can Sanchez + 50 million replace Suarez if spent correctly? It definatly should be!

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23 Jun 2014 08:15:04
We don't have to let anybody go.

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23 Jun 2014 08:16:43
I doubt we will buy another striker of Sanchez comes in. Sanchez can play as a forward/second forward.

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I think it will be good business to get Sanchex and a heap load of cash. I don't want to see Luis gone but we have to be realistic about it and if big numbers come in then i'm sure it will be considered.

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But if Bale went for 85 million then why do some think its ridiculous to expect Sanchez and 50 million?

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23 Jun 2014 13:07:54
Daniel levy is the sole reason of Bale's massive figure. He would sell Defoe for 25 mill.
Sanchez is better than Bale, But how much do we value him?

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{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Bale.}

23 Jun 2014 06:59:04
Hi Ed's

I have tried the search function but nothing came up
up.All I keep reading and hearing suarez's release clause is this much is that much.Do you know any inside info on hthis release clause or is there even a release clause?

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - It is not a matter for discussion.}

23 Jun 2014 06:17:24
hey eds, couple of quick questions

1. whatever happened to our interest in Kyriakos Papadopoulos? He has had some injuries last year, but with his physical play, he seems made for premier league.

2. How come more english clubs/Liverpool don't try to sign more german players? Seems to me germany has a lot of young, skilled, fast, good on the ball players, mostly affordable players, exactly what we look for.

3. Who has impressed you eds at this world cup? Specifically looking for a Luis Suarez type breakthrough of 4 years ago, guy we didn't really look at, but now we should look to buy that's not at the big club yet.

4. Can you tell me more about Gabriel from Santos. Do you rate him? What's his price tag? Who's interested? Barca has the first option on him, are they looking to bring him in? What does that option entitle them to? Can it be sold/transferred/included to us if they do buy suarez from us? With the brazilians we have, and portugese speaking players on the team, he should feel at home.

5. This might be outside of the lines, but have we replaces our academy coaches that left for city? Do we have any interest in Jason Dodd and Paul Williams that just left southampton? Looking at how many 18-19 year old went straight into senior team there, that could be a great "signing".

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{Ed002's Note - (1) Nothing further happened with Papadopoulos. (2) I really cannot answer questions like this. (3) I haven't watched much of the WC. (4) Gabriel will not be moving to Liverpool. Much is expected of him and there is an agreement, as you say, with Barcelona. (5) I have no idea, sorry.}

23 Jun 2014 05:03:19
So Liverpool Targets

Lallana backup Shaquiri.
Moreno backup Bertnard.(Rojo)
Lovren backup Hector Moreno

Thanks,
Bhavesh Shah.

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23 Jun 2014 02:39:15
Guys. I don't think suarez will leave. I look at the bigger picture. The dude just had a kid plus his daughter is nearly scouse. Do u honestly think his wife and kids will want to move to Spain when they are finally getting settled in at Liverpool. If he does leave good luck to him. He will be replaced. Just think like he retired and we got a lot of money lol

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Suarez's wifes family live in/near Barcelona.

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23 Jun 2014 00:27:01
C;Mon USA

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23 Jun 2014 00:43:54
To all my irish American friends enjoy have a whiskey to settle them nerves.

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23 Jun 2014 00:56:28
Hard luck but still in USA hands.

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23 Jun 2014 01:43:43
Super proud of my team! We can lose and still advance! But I think we will do better

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