Liverpool Banter Archive June 23 2017

 

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23 Jun 2017 23:39:03
Omg I can't wait for the football season to start. It's only been a few weeks without any games and I am missing it do much.

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24 Jun 2017 00:49:31
Under 21 European championships and the conferderation cup is on, both have had several entertaining games.


24 Jun 2017 08:24:15
The U20 World Cup was really good too. Enjoying the Confederations Cup and caught the odd U21 Euro game. Hopefully BT or Sky will do some of our preseason games again.


24 Jun 2017 08:56:56
Spot on, Sakho. Those competitions are very entertaining indeed as I'm a huge fan of international tournaments myself.


24 Jun 2017 22:38:26
Yep they're great to watch players closely that you've heard about.


23 Jun 2017 23:31:52
Evening eds -

Southampton have appointed ex Liverpool Defender Mauricio Pellegrino as their new manager. Could this possibly have a positive impact on us signing VVD?

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{Ed002's Note - Has he helped to illegally approach the player? Does he have the ear of FSG to persuade them to further embarrass themselves and the club to go back on a crawlingly embarrassing statement to try and avoid an FA charge? Has Liverpool got £70M to buy the player - although maybe the price to Liverpool has arisen a bit now.}

23 Jun 2017 23:06:04
Eds. Any update please as regards to our pursuit of Luan?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

23 Jun 2017 22:59:28
Could an Ed possible answer a question? I'm not sure if anyone hear watches the Ligue 1 but there's a Midfielder called Jean Seri. Almost identical player to that of Naby Kieta. Do any eds know if he's been looked at as a possible option if the keita deal doesn't happen?

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{Ed002's Note - No. not by Liverpool - random player not moving to Liverpool.}

23 Jun 2017 20:42:16
I don't disagree xpertoyin. Klopps style of play isn't conducive to a "traditional" striker. And by that I mean on that is more of a poacher/ positionally aware/ fast but lacking stamina and tackling. He prefers the hard working high pressing and ability to pick a pass forward/ attacking mid style and would rather have 6-8 players scoring 10+ goals rather than one to two players that will score 20-30 goals. In theory it should be more difficult to defend with multiple outlets, but sometimes you need that strikers instinct to be in the right place at the right time. I'm sure he would be tickled to have a player scoring 20-30 goals but it isn't a necessity. And the fact lewandowski did/ does is just a testament (in my opinion) to how good and hard working he is. A player like firminio/ Suarez/ Sanchez will always thrive under klopp while players like ibrahimavic/ dzeko/ van piersie would struggle. I'm just hoping Sturridge can get fit/ adapt enough to be a 20-30 goal/ season striker again!

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23 Jun 2017 20:57:22
I really don't think that is true, especially whrn you think about Lewa and klopps time together. And for me it is a bonus having multiple players chip in but greater to have genuime goal scorer in the team pumping away goals as well.


23 Jun 2017 21:59:38
when lewa joined dortmund klopp changed his position to one he had never played and didn't like. he said he learned more in that year than ever and when played in his normal position the next year made him by far a better player.


23 Jun 2017 23:18:44
can't really argue with 70-odd goals together tho can ya!?


24 Jun 2017 09:07:10
The unnecessary argument for the arrival of a natural goalscorer, is nothing but a false argument fueled by some fantasy that we need one, which is not backed up by any metric in reality. Since JK arrived at LFC, LFC is top 3 in goals scored, chances created and shots on target in the PL, all accomplished without a so called "natural goalscorer" so why again, do we need to go splurge money on one (who will not come cheap by the way) when we have other pressing issues elsewhere within the team to address? We scored 76 goals last season (4th best in the PL) and was the best attack in the PL for most of the season, all without a true goalscorer. please, let us end this argument for good. We domn't need a natural goalscorer in this team but need to improve Firmino's output in front of goal as h can definitely do more there and the addition of Salah will only add to our goals output. We need a true LB and add better depth to the squad.


24 Jun 2017 09:32:59
We scored the 4th most goals and finished 4th, that's why we need to improve on goals scored, si we can finish above 4th!


{Ed001's Note - the defence was only 5th best, plus we only scored 8 less than the top scorers while conceding 16 more than the best defence. There is a lot more improvement to be made by improving the defence than attack. Liverpool always won the league through its defence.}

23 Jun 2017 20:38:49
Id like to see the ultimate tournament.
Forget the world cup. can u imagine the continent cup.
Africa
Europe
Asia
Australasia
North america
South america
Ok granted, europe, south america and africa will be by far the better teams, but what a team of talent from each continent.
Poor australasia will still have harry kewell up front.

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23 Jun 2017 20:59:09
Is that continent like how the world is geographically split or how FIFA split it? Cos if it is how FFA split it the unfortunately oceania's team will basically be the All Whites (New Zealand) with a few quick footed soloman islanders!


23 Jun 2017 22:08:56
Australia is in asian confederation hence them representing asia in the confederations cup.


23 Jun 2017 19:55:49
Oh a devilish devilish sense of humour does that new bugger Moore have is in fact even too much for a witty genius as I perhaps with my genius level intellect (as many like me seem to have) .

For those that haven't seen it (or didn't get it, considering where I am posting this lol only kidding mateys) he replied to someone asking to sign the rapid boy Aubamayeng, who I can confirm does possess the speed force, saying the profits from signing him would all disappear from lettering his shirt - this is a little joke from the Moore lad as Aubamayeng is in fact quite a long name and therefore each letter would cost more and more!

hehe really funny that boy moore certainly gave me a chuckle but I can't help but think Aubamayeng could sue the club for disrespecting his name and heritage which Moore clearly has done here.

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23 Jun 2017 20:07:51
What are you on about.


23 Jun 2017 20:10:37
No he can't because he does have a long name.


23 Jun 2017 20:21:15
Our nasty boy CEO talking about signing an other player tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk what will the fa say about that do you think.


23 Jun 2017 20:23:10
Surely being an ex EA Sports employee, they'd just charge the letters as a micro transaction?


23 Jun 2017 20:24:50
Ah yes you prove my point that I mentioned about the intellect hahahoho, sadly.


23 Jun 2017 20:52:01
Oh ignorance is bliss! You got your wires crossed matey this is real life not some kind of FIFA experience and Moore knows this. I myself am based in reality which makes my presence all the more menacing.

Perhaps you've been spending too much time and money on beer, "fags" and fifa points matey and therefore feel the need to take it out on the lovely boy CEO. What is it go on, be honest, 750 fifa points per day allowing you to play two drafts and then buy one premium gold pack? I wouldn't know as I don't waste my time on such childish trivial matters. Too busy fazing my hands through people, you know what I'm talking about Ron Keague x.


23 Jun 2017 21:44:58
I'll like some of what you are having. I'm sure the Eds too will. Perhaps not Ed001. He already has Harry for entertainment.


23 Jun 2017 22:09:08
I know what you mean Speedster.

Who gives our officials media training? Donald Trump?


23 Jun 2017 19:06:02
Eds reds. Re left back. Ghoulam napoli. i haven't really seen him play. Is he good enough? As i've previously saud i would have bertrand all day, but as there doesn't seem to be interest who do you favour realisticaly?

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23 Jun 2017 22:09:51
Never seen him play, MK takes in Serie A as does F, F&F.


24 Jun 2017 09:11:36
Seen Ghoulam play since his days at St. Etienne, with Napoli and with the Algerian national team. He is a solid LB who has a quality left foot (10 assists last season says it all, really) and would be great with us attacking wise. But his defending is very suspect. However, he is better defensively and offensively than Moreno but that is not saying much either. He would be great in our system provided his defending can be worked on or our system in midfield can help mitigate this defeciency.


23 Jun 2017 18:31:39
Hello Ed's, Let's discuss Origi. He has adapted I would say to Klopp's idea of what a striker should be. But as we can see from Firmino's tally of goals, that rarely translates to a 20 goals a season. From all indications we are not buying a striker, what do you think needs be done to get Origi and maybe Firmino to that height? Or are you of the opinion we don't need a 20 goal striker to win the league?

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{Ed001's Note - Lewandowski scored plenty of goals under Klopp, not sure how you can say Klopp's idea of a striker restricts the player.}

23 Jun 2017 20:11:58
The reason Firmino didn't score 20 last season was a) he had a broken season with several spells on the sidelines and b) he doesn't take any set plays (especially not pens) unlike the leagues other top strikers. He also had more support to provide easier goals for than trying to take on ridiculous shots himself most of the time.


23 Jun 2017 21:02:10
We create more than enough chances for whoever is playing in that most advanced position to have scored more than they did. Even sturridge jad some great 1v1 chances earlier in the season where he uncharacteristically fluffed his lines.


24 Jun 2017 09:16:50
Firmino is capable of scoring goals for fun as he did that with Hoffenhiem before he came to us. Any striker will score goals in our system BUT bar Suarez or Gab Jesus, no striker is asked to do ALL the dirty work Firmino does which Klopp requires of his CF to do so thos saying we need a natural goalscorer should remember that majority of them can't and won't do all the things Bobby does, which is important in our system. I do agree that Firmino can improve his goal tally by being more composed and focus more on his firt touch in front of goal as he clearly, has the ability to do better in these areas.


23 Jun 2017 18:25:50
Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE our stating 11 to contain VVD, Mendy, Keita and Aubameyang.

But by my calculations this would leave all of Sturridge, Firmino, Lallana, Lovren, Gomez, TAA, Can and Wiji (and more) on the bench/ sold.

Seems like a bit of a waste of talent that we already have in our ranks.

How many new signings do we actually need?

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23 Jun 2017 18:45:15
You mentioned 4 quality signings? That's absolutely what we need to challenge on all fronts. I doubt all the signings would actually come but bringing in 4 quality additions has been the clubs target from the start and it wouldn't hinder any player, unless they weren't good enough. TAA plays RB, so non of those signings would directly effect him. And you mentioned 1 midfield signing but then said atleat 3 of our midfielders would end up benched. Doesn't add up. Rotation and injuries affect the squad, take a look at a typical champions league squad!


23 Jun 2017 19:52:43
Mignolet/ karius
Clyne/ a. arnold
Vandijk/ Lovren
Matip/ klavan/ gomez
Mendy/ Milner
Hendo/ can
Keita/ wiji
Cou/ Lallana/ Grujic
Salah/ sturridge
Mane/ Origi/ Ojo
Firmino/ ings/ solanke

We are competing in four comp we need quality bench and strong squad depth to cover injuries and suspention.

With just Solanke salah keita mendy and van dijk we are perfect to go and win everything next season.


23 Jun 2017 21:11:17
Plenty of games where our bench consisted of Academy players plus Moreno and karius, simply not good enough.


23 Jun 2017 18:16:02
Why is everybody so worried about the VVD situation?
Ed001 doesn't rate or want him!
Soooooooo. We will sign him!

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23 Jun 2017 18:50:02
Certainty.


23 Jun 2017 19:29:25
Ed001 doesn't rate Boateng or Hummels either.

I SAID ED001 DOESN'T RATE BOATENG OR HUMMELS EITHER!

There you go lads. Job done. See you at the open top bus parade May 2018.


23 Jun 2017 18:11:42
Eds, is there any clarification on the Mbappe bid? I know we apparently bid around 67mil earlier in the year but I couldn't figure out if that was genuine or FSGs apparent low ball tactic. Now I'm seeing rumours of a 100mil euro bid, are we seriously interested/ willing to pay? And if so, is there any chance or is his 'heart' set on Madrid? Appreciate any information regarding this rumour.

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{Ed025's Note - can you really see liverpool paying £100m on a player?..

23 Jun 2017 18:26:39
it was Euros not Pounds on the rumour, I think this transfer window is about getting the players Klopp wants. So yeah, I do think we could, if Klopp absolutely wanted him. But my question was can any of the Eds clarify this? It's irrelevant if I can see Liverpool paying the money or not.

Cheers.


{Ed001's Note - no, it was not us that bid for him. This has been explained already.}

23 Jun 2017 18:29:11
£100m for one good season 😂🤡.


{Ed001's Note - he is a special talent Ronald.}

23 Jun 2017 18:48:50
Cheers ED001, I did check the search engine before posting but there was nothing clarifiying
the rumour that has circulated today. I didn't think we would sign him but wow what a player he's going to be!


{Ed001's Note - it was the Arsenal bid that was misattributed to Liverpool.}

23 Jun 2017 18:30:06
No ed 025. But saints are asking 70mil for VVD.


23 Jun 2017 17:39:19
Good afternoon ED01!

Hope you're well.

I'm sure you are sick of all this investigation talk about VVD, so I was wondering if there is any chance of us turning the tables on the Saints and get the FA to investigate them tapping up Pellegrino for over a decade? ;)

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{Ed001's Note - got to be worth a go like. They are known for long term forward planning.....}

23 Jun 2017 19:31:17
Or seeing as they are trying to blame us for ex-player Aldo being a bit thick, maybe we can try and take them to Court over Le Tissier being a terrible soccer Saturday commentator?


23 Jun 2017 17:19:33
So Southampton have a new manager. Ex Liverpool man. Smooth the waters Pelli. going to convince them we arenter a bunch of fools and are a lovely club. Give us VVD and retract the complaints. . ha if only.

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23 Jun 2017 17:28:04
VVD will sign for us, I'm really confident.


23 Jun 2017 18:29:53
I actually think so too. It's just the rest I'm more worried about and what will have to happen for us to get him. Ie basically paying Southampton to try earn some respect back, I know ironic, or the player forcing the move and Southampton realising our tapping up ended up in the same result with a simple face saving/ ban stopping apology in between.


24 Jun 2017 09:20:08
Never rated VVD and have never wanted him here as he is overrated, a bit lazy, always out of position and lacksconcentration BUT if Klopp wants him then so be it.


23 Jun 2017 16:52:01
Dear Eds,
Which would you prefer a Couthino or a Lallana feeding an attack of Firmino, Salah and Mane?

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{Ed001's Note - Coutinho clearly.}

23 Jun 2017 17:46:41
Hendo sitting coutinho and lallana either side and those three up front? Sturridge and origi can rotate with the strikers and wijnaldum and can with the mids at the moment?


23 Jun 2017 17:47:17
Why not both against teams who sit deep.


23 Jun 2017 16:13:17
Now that the Salah is done with, I think the next logical move for us is to sign 2 more players in VVD and Mendy NO MORE NO LESS!
Any more additions would be unnecessary. We don't want to shake things up too much such that we find ourselves going back to square one. The key is to build from last season and to tighten up lose ends. Simple!


In my eyes the transfer window is like cough syrup, you don't want to take in the whole thing at once (that will mess up your system) you just take in spoon fulls at a time till you feel better.

I think its also logical for the club to offload some players in Moreno, Lucas, Clyne, Origi (on loan) I think Ings would be of much more value to us compared to Origi.

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23 Jun 2017 16:39:30
There's only 2 types of players you let out on loan: kids and players you don't want and can't get rid of. Origi is neither of them and a loan would do more harm than good if you intend not to sell after that period.


{Ed002's Note - Absolute ubbish.}

23 Jun 2017 19:23:42
All red, so you only want to buy a LB and a CB, but ship out our RB, and leave TAA with all the pressure of playing pretty much every game? I'm hoping TAA will feature even more this season but him being the only RB would be such a risk!
I believe the plan was 4 quality players, I don't think that would shake it up too much at all. With how our midfielders get injured I'd say bringing 1 more in can only benefit us, especially if we're going on all 4 fronts!


23 Jun 2017 19:33:08
Ubbish is Dutch for "Messi is signing"!

Ed002 you cryptic old crackpot ;)


23 Jun 2017 15:59:01
Welcome to the LFC family Mo Salah.
I am very confident that he will prove to be an instant success for us. Not only does he have blistering pace but he has that football intelligence that some quick players lack.
I feel the need for speed!
Wow - what a mouth watering prospect- both Salah and Mane hurtling at full pelt towards the opposition goal.

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23 Jun 2017 16:15:01
He's got the lot. He's grown as a footballer since leaving Chelsea.


23 Jun 2017 15:37:39
Was the salah transfer the most expensive ever, I know this is done and dusted but different media outlets reporting different things!
Thanks for all your hard work eds.

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{Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}

23 Jun 2017 15:42:57
Does it really matter if he was or wasn't the most expensive player. it's a great bit of business, it's done and dusted and let's move forward to the next signings. not having a go but seen many posts here about how much I hid he cost. was it £30 mil or £34mil or so on and so forth. it doesn't matter.
Personally hoping we still get VVD done. LB and then let's see if any other bonus signings come in?


23 Jun 2017 15:02:08
Hi Eds, Thanks for all the hard work your putting in.

Is there any truth in what Sky Italia are reporting in that Chelsea have bid £60m for VVD.

If it is true would anticipate Liverpool contacting Southampton and making their own official offer for him.

By all accounts it seems like VVD still wants Liverpool move and that Klopp really wants VVD.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool' position regarding the player has been made absolutely clear. At this time that has not changed. This has been dealt with over and over again.}

23 Jun 2017 14:26:00
Ed, if you don't mind, whilst I'd love to see us sign Mendy for left back I'm sure we probably won't be favourites so I'm wondering how good and how highly (if at all) do you rate Tierny?
And is he an option for us?
Cheers.

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{Ed007's Note - Tierney's one of the best young LBs in Europe, solid at the back and loves a tackle, he's got a lot of speed so he's fast at getting up the park although his choice of a final ball can be a bit erratic at times but that'll get better with experience. He's not an option for anyone mate, he's not interested in leaving Celtic.}

23 Jun 2017 15:49:40
Thanks Ed007, now is there any chance of getting an opinion from someone slightly less blinkered? Perhaps someone who recognises that the Scottish premier league (or as I like to call it, the conference North, North) is not a great place to judge a player?
No offence Ed.


{Ed001's Note - Tierney would be my choice as he is excellent, from what I have seen. Ed007 is, for once, right.}

23 Jun 2017 15:49:07
I remember the time Celtic fans thought Izaguirre was one of the best left backs in Europe 😉.


{Ed007's Note - Everyone knows that he was before his terrible ankle injury.}

23 Jun 2017 16:30:37
Apparently he's very well grounded. One of the first to training wears black boots no tattoos or fancy hair do. Just a normal working class lad.


23 Jun 2017 17:45:10
Cant we tap him up before pregnency season starts?


23 Jun 2017 17:14:26
Cheers Ed001, and Ed007 only kidding.


{Ed007's Note - Good job - I was just about to send the troops to smash your windows and $hit on your lawn!}

23 Jun 2017 17:41:44
Scott Brown for Ballon D'or ay Ed07.? ;)


{Ed007's Note - Scott Brown for the next James Bond!}

23 Jun 2017 14:56:05
Banter please eds. with us securing Solanke and Salah so far, I for one would wholeheartedly love to bring in our two other main targets which from what I can see and hear are Mendy and VVD still.

That would bring our spending to about £150m on 4 players.
I for one say to that, excellent! Quality over quantity. About time.

Don't get me wrong we would all love Keita, Auba and Mbappe and all these other great players but I don't see us getting any of them and in all honesty, we need Mendy and VVD more.

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23 Jun 2017 16:33:35
Great post natural!


23 Jun 2017 14:55:49
Eds01/ 02/ 25 Just wondering what's your opinion on safe standing coming back? Apparently the Premier league have asked clubs if they would be interested and I think West Brom will be one of the first clubs to trial it? Do you think it is a good idea?

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{Ed001's Note - no, I do not think it should come back as it does not exist. There is no such thing as safe standing. People look back on it with misty eyes and forget how crap it actually was.}

23 Jun 2017 16:17:36
Standing shouldn't come back, it's gone and that's that.


23 Jun 2017 17:03:02
I'm all for safe standing, completely different to the standing terraces and completely safe too.
Better than standing in front of a seat at ankle height like what happens now.


23 Jun 2017 14:52:53
Who is the club's record signing? And how much? .

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23 Jun 2017 14:52:10
Eds do you think that this swap deal regarding moreno and ghoulam is something our club is looking to do?

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - no.}

23 Jun 2017 14:14:15
Hey eds I've just heard ..........

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{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page, you are on the wrong page.}

23 Jun 2017 14:06:50
I have a question for the Eds because i belive only them lol. I remeber that ed002 used to say that our club was 1mil in deficit every week. Did things change financially? I know you don't like to talk finances but i somehow have a feeling we are ready to spend this summer. I honestly wouldn't like that to be the case, we just have to find right players and offload right players.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes that changed. And has been dealt with on and off.}

23 Jun 2017 14:18:23
I'd be really interested to hear Ed001's opinion on the Salah signing. Overall I'm happy with the signing, he's made great strides in his whole game since leaving Chelsea and has consistently provided end-product over the past 2 seasons. With Coutinho seemingly dropping into CM next I'm very excited to see what our attacking output will be next year. I have to say I'm slightly concerned about him not being a left-sided attacker primarily however, it is worth noting that our attackers often 'switched' positions in game last year.

If this is the plan then what an horrific proposition for our opponents next season. Pace to burn, technical wizardry and I feel a more potent edge to fully capitalize on all the chances we will create.

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{Ed001's Note - I am happy with the signing, he is what we needed, as he allows Mane to switch to the left. Just have to hope he settles in England this time around, because he has a point to prove now.}

23 Jun 2017 14:38:35
Thanks for the prompt reply Ed, my only concern RE: Mane on the left is that We'd potentially miss out on having a true winger on the pitch, but I suppose this could be easily adjusted with reference to our opposition.


23 Jun 2017 15:26:28
Ed with mane right footed and salha left is playing them on those sides the way forward? They will both naturally want to cut in.


{Ed001's Note - not for me, but it is the fashion.}

23 Jun 2017 15:41:42
I guess if we had the right players in the fullback positions we'd have more options as they would overlap the wingers, besides we tend to play quite fluid anyway so Mané and Salah won't be contained to their starting positions (except during defensive work) .


23 Jun 2017 15:48:53
Not for me either, Ed01 as our front 3 are always in motion and movement during games so who btw MS and SM, is in what position is severely temporary as both are lethal from either wing. Regard the Salah signing, I've always said that LFC don't need to splash crazy money on players.

What we need is to pay what is needed to get the right player for our system and if that means breaking the bank for a player like Salah (who is EXACTLY the right player we desperately need) then, go for it and that is what Klopp does, has done and did with Mane, Matip and Wiji last season. Salah is quality and he will be sorely missed at Roma.

Another thing I like about Salah is the way he takes his goals. For a winger or wide man, he has the coolness of a natural goalscorer when he takes his chances. He does not seem to panic nor snatch at a chance at all. He is very calm, collected and shows great composure in front of goal. That to me, is an asset that we need in the first team. Great job getting the deal done and I am chuffed to bits with MS's arrival.


23 Jun 2017 15:52:19
Its a fair amount of money for a player that didn't settle first time around. I have my doubts about him. I would rather have went for Brandt.


23 Jun 2017 16:13:44
Hello Ed,
I digress a little, but i have always wondered why it is now the norm for right footed wingers to play on the left (CR) and left footed wingers to play on the right (Messi) . What is the reasoning behind this and why do you disagree (from your last comment)?


{Ed002's Note - It is not the norm but the argument for both Salah and Bernardo Silva is that playing on the right allows them to cut inside and have better options going at goal on their stronger foot - and both have been successful at it.}

23 Jun 2017 16:36:47
xpertoyin, I suppose it depends what you want your winger to do, are they only good for crossing and assisting? In that case a right footer on the right makes sense and vice versa. But if if they have great finishing and technical ability EG Messi and Ronaldo, you want them to cut inside to get a sight on goal, therefor you want them to be on there best foot when cutting in.


23 Jun 2017 16:49:47
Thank you Ed002 and AlexDavies.
From all indication, with Salah left footed and Mane right, we have a well balanced first team of wingers. Saying i am excited, is a clear understatement. And the window is not opened officially.


{Ed002's Note - No, Mane is a right winger who is versatile enough to play in the other positions. Salah is not a first choice player but has arrived being versatile as well.}

23 Jun 2017 11:42:20
I see Suso is being linked with a move to Spurs. have we been keeping an eye on him or have we cut all ties since he left?

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{Ed002's Note - I can't imagine there would be anything that would attract him back to the club.}

23 Jun 2017 10:58:45
Hey Eds, been a long time since last posted but thought of something there. We had our worst spell in the league when Mane was gone to the AFCON and now we have signed Salah I realised that will be going to it as well so do you think that we need to sign another person who can play on the wing as both of them will be gone?
Cheers in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - It doesn't happen every year and Liverpool can't add players just to provide cover for a few weeks in early 2019.}

23 Jun 2017 11:14:58
Who will cover for them if one gets injured ed? City Have Sane, Sterling and B. Silva, Chelsea have Hazard, Pedro, and Willian. United have Mkhitaryan, Martial, Lingard. You need Quality players to push each other for places look how it worked for Mignolet and we need depth and players who can give Mane and Salah a rest when needed especially now with us having to play more games next season with europe and I expect us to have a good cup run as Klopp will be desperate to win a trophy. I would like to see Ojo step up but I don't see that happening.


{Ed002's Note - Coutinho, Firmino, Milner, Ojo (if he stays). The club has quality young players but so many of you are so obsessed with replacing them.}

23 Jun 2017 11:21:15
As well as what ed has said. we already have other players. Mane went all the way to the final. Unlikely both will next time. We had other injuries. Were very reliant on playing one way. I think klopp changed that towards the end of the season. Hopefully in 2 years he will have developed us even more and finally let's face it's modern day football. If they are outstanding they could be at Barcelona or Madrid by then, or if not brilliant could be shipped out too.


23 Jun 2017 11:22:46
Why not just play without wingers for the 4 weeks every two years that the AFCON is on?

If we can't cope with 2/ 3 players being away for a few weeks every couple of years then we have massive problems that cannot be solved by buying more players.


23 Jun 2017 11:31:25
Did you just put lingard in as a quality option?

As ed said we have options should someone get injured - couts can slot back in there, we have lallana who can play there, wiji can play there. Not to mention the like of ojo and Wilson who could be given opportunities.

What about if Mane and Salah stay injury free, what does our new winger signing do then? Hardly a tempting move for someone to know you're 3rd choice pending injuries and a 3 week tournament that happens every 2 years.

FFS.


23 Jun 2017 12:29:14
Oh sorry Ed, thought AFCON was on every year. My bad.


{Ed002's Note - No, a couple of years ago they switched from even to odd so that was the time.}

23 Jun 2017 14:29:35
Hahaha, this question again. I really really hope we sign Keita, Koulibaly and Ghoulam just to watch people freaking out and blowing their tops when they realize what will happen in January 2019.


23 Jun 2017 14:32:29
But seriously. Hopefully Wilson, Ojo and Woodburn will be ready to step up by then and help us not lose the plot when our 2 speedsters head to the AFCON.


23 Jun 2017 16:15:45
So we sign an African player but that's not good enough. whenever a team signs an African player they need to sign another player in his position but from a totally different continent to cover him every 2 years for 4 weeks max. absolute rubbish. Sick of hearing the same stupid question being asked.


23 Jun 2017 09:50:05
Just want to give a bit of praise to Migs for how well he played towards the back end of last season.

It's a testament to how good he was that we aren't all clamouring for a new GK to be signed.

With Karius to compete with and a confident Danny Ward on the books it's looking quite good in that department at the moment.

Long may it continue!

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23 Jun 2017 12:36:44
I should apologise cause I've slated migs and to be fair if it wasn't for him I really don't think we would of made top 4 this year so SORRY bud keep it up 👍.


23 Jun 2017 08:12:49
Good morning all

Very pleased with the Mo Salah arrival I think he will fit into the team very well indeed.

Ed001, i've read down the page that you think our next move will be to sort out the VVD deal, I must say I am a little surprised by this given the clubs statement but I understands the points youve explained and I think the hardest thing might be Saints willing to talk to us, unless talks have already started again? My only worry is we don't spunk most of our budget leaving us short on funds in other more needed areas like LB. Also a right kick in the groin for Gomez, he isn't going to get a look in at all if another CB arrives. Thanks for your info again ed, have a good weekend mate.

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{Ed001's Note - I am not necessarily saying we will buy him, but we will look to sort it out one way or the other. With Saints now taking legal advice over Aldridge's comments, they are also likely to push the FA to take action, so I expect us to try and do something about the situation. There are some people within the club that believe we are waiting on him to hand in a written transfer request to return with a firm offer, but I would rather we just tried to smooth the waters personally.

Either way, any action by the player will cause a reaction and it is expected that he will take action with a further transfer request, probably in writing, as he looks to leave. If he is not granted his request, he had indicated a willingness to go further, to get a move.

I would hope that he was just upset and will calm down and realise that the best thing for his career is to just sit down with Southampton and agree to stay for a season, give his all, then leave next summer. However, he has indicated, which is part of the issue with all of this, that he believes he was promised that he could move on this summer.}

23 Jun 2017 08:32:33
The first action LFC need to take is tell the legends to keep the g**s shut. Do these idiots not realise they are simply making things difficult for the club? Aldridge should be given a strong lettered word by the club to watch his mouth. If someone else told one of our players to force a move out publicly, how infuriated will those connected to LFC feel?
Imo, we should just forget about VVD and move on. Last thing we need is a transfer ban.


{Ed001's Note - we need to do more than just forget, we need to make it right with Soton. Then we need to make it right with any other club we have dumped on in recent years too and start acting correctly in the transfer market. We do not need to cheat, to cheapen ourselves by tapping up players. We are a huge club, we are a big draw to many players, there is no need to do anything shady to attract quality players to the club.}

23 Jun 2017 08:44:35
Owe I see what you are saying now mate thank you for spelling it iut for me. A good solution might well be we smooth it all over with them and pursue other CB targets.


23 Jun 2017 08:37:20
Wow! We can't really blame the saints for the willingness to talk legal advice against Al's statement. Immediately I read about it, I was pissed personally. Although he has come out to say he was misquoted.


{Ed002's Note - The club really need to clean up their act and get the manager, at least one member of the coaching staff and former players to tow the line. It goes well beyond an ex-player saying "he would be a great buy" to making suggestions that the player could force a move by striking.}

23 Jun 2017 09:48:08
This type of behavior makes me so ashamed.


23 Jun 2017 10:46:25
Totally agree Ed002. Its embarassing.


23 Jun 2017 11:11:21
It was poor of Aldridge. Another showing of how irresponsible the club management team currently are acting.

His comments were inappropriate but Southampton won't get anywhere with there legal advice unless Aldridge is employed by the club. Is that the case eds?


{Ed002's Note - Really, that is what you think? Liverpool have for a long time been dreadful in their transfer dealings. The board trailed slime as the grovelled with Fulham to stop a complaint to the FA. Two warnings last season as I explained; caught again this season with manager acting in the most disgraceful manner; a grovelling apology and confirmation that interest has gone. Already banned and fined this season for tapping up another player. A separate court case pending about fouling up a child's career. A previous captain bragging about how he would illegally approach players he didn't know on behalf of the club. Now an ex-player and a regular paid contributor to LFC TV coming out with such a statement about another club's player.}

23 Jun 2017 11:24:58
have to agree with the eds on this, we don't need to be doing this sort of thing, we should be conducting ourselves in a professional manner, other clubs may do it too, but we are public with how we do it, which really is a disgrace.


23 Jun 2017 12:08:34
I mentioned a few seasons ago that fiorentina have zero interest in working with LFC again after having many issues with Aquilani siging and then again with Lucas. It's not a recent problem and is not restricted to just current staff or executives. This is a problem infesting the entire club and they have been aware of this for a long long time and done nothing about it.


23 Jun 2017 11:53:26
I am not disagreeing with you Ed002. I'm sick of the way the club has acted and continues too. I just think the state of the media and all there false news and freedom of speech etc it would be difficult for them to take action against Aldridge. That being said I wouldn't argue if they were successful in there legal advice. I'd be happy to be proved wrong as his comments were stupid.

The club and how Klopp acted that's different imo, it's a no win situation for the club. Personally I would think that even though a ban would hurt specially in the short term it would be the right thing to happen by the letter of the law. A statement does need to be made, seems the club never try and clean up there act. Hopefully something serious like a transfer ban against first team players would start a change.


{Ed002's Note - Who has suggested "action" against Aldridge? You don't seem to be able to grasp the situation here - and why start against the media and what has this got to do with "freedom of speech"? I guess you don't understand what that is either.}

23 Jun 2017 12:48:34
HI Eds
Is the legal action with Liverpool or John or both. Also I think you said the best thing mite be to sigh vvd to make it right and not leave him in limbo. Is this still the case. Or are we best saying sorry again and walk away?


{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about. Liverpool's position was made clear in a statement from te club.}

23 Jun 2017 12:38:49
Ed, im not getting dragged into this argument and I agree with everything you have said regarding our club doing things incorrectly and making a complete mess of the whole situation. Regarding the player, have Chelsea now made a new bid for him?


{Ed002's Note - Try the Chelsea page. This is the Liverpool page.}

23 Jun 2017 07:47:35
Morning Eds
First post for a while.
Would like to start be saying, as usual this window you guys and Macca have been the most reliable source of what's going on re potential transfer targets out there.
I agree with Ed 1 that a new left back shouldn't be a 'make do' option.
Ed 1 who do you think would be the best left back for us from those 'available'?
Is Mendy a realistic left back target and is he as good as everyone seems to think (I've not seen him play much? )
Finally, is there any chance at all of us re-building bridges with Fulham to be able to go for Sessegnon?
Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - from what I have seen of Mendy he looks perfectly suited to our play. He is a realistic option in terms of they would sell and he would like to join, but unrealistic as the cost, including wages, is just too high.
Personally I am not sure who is the best left back, but probably the easiest to attain would be Ghoulam.

Forget Sessegnon, unless he decides to run down his contract and leave Fulham on a free.}

23 Jun 2017 08:02:52
Have you seen Ghoulam play Ed001? Never seen him play and not liked what I saw from Youtube.


{Ed001's Note - not much mate. That is the issue, I have not seen many left backs of any kind of quality that we can get. If it was just go and get any left back, then Tierney stands out amongst those I have seen.}

23 Jun 2017 09:38:47
Mendy or Tierney. Either would be class and if they continue to progress, could be the best in their position going by what I've seen (handful of TV league games, UCL games, International games and listening to pundits and explayers views) .
These guys could be a LB for 8-10 yrs solid. Bar injuries obviously. The only two I've seen which have all the qualities on a modern full back but can actually defend as well.
Yes £50m say. That's £5m a season if they, as I say, profess and last 10yrs. Even if after 5 they wanted to go at this rate it's easily money back.
Otherwise in today's market £10-£15m is meh, average at best or invest in untapped potential which might not come to anything. It only takes 3-4 of those over that 10yr period to made not buying one of Mendy/ Teirney even more of a missed opportunity.


23 Jun 2017 16:00:02
Ed01, I have seen Ghoulam play since his debut at St Etienne and quite a few games at Napoli and with the Algerian team. He may not be the best defensively as many other LB's (bar maybe Betrand) are at the moment. However at 26, he has come in leaps and bounds since Rafa (who has no time for lazy defenders) signed him. Now with Mauricio Sardi (spelling) as manager at Napoli, they now play a more expansive style of football that is awesome just like Klopp does and Ghoulam has benefited a lot from that. He has better quality offensively and a terrific left foot, way better than Robertson but not better than Mendy. I would take a punt on him if Mendy can't be signed.


23 Jun 2017 07:35:58
Brandt to play at Leverkusen next season then join Bayern for 11m. And we want 15m for Moreno!

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23 Jun 2017 07:51:03
Does not concern us anymore. Brandt would have joined Bayern at some point anyways so better we targeted a player that wanted to spend his peak years with us irrespective of the cost.


23 Jun 2017 08:16:54
Brandt didn't want to come to us, end of.


23 Jun 2017 07:18:40
What's happening over sturridge? R we still looking to offload him? or is klopp going to percevere with him and take a chance over his fitness next season.

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23 Jun 2017 07:28:07
We are open to offers but not actively selling him is basically it.


23 Jun 2017 08:04:30
someone has to bid for him and a substantial one at that for us to even consider offloading him.
i don't see the fuss with studger. I think he is happy at LFC and wants to play and next year we will have CL and we definitely need him then.
If a tempting bid does come we can see to it but i think we should keep hold of him for next season.


23 Jun 2017 07:16:06
Just a thought. If we don't get a centre back this window, is it possible lovran can push on. He had some good performances last season. Could it be like when Lucas failed to settle quickly?

Probably on my own here, but I think if he kicked in to gear then the partnership with him and matip could be quite potent.

Who's to say if we got vvd that he would settle right away?

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23 Jun 2017 07:40:41
Lucas came from gremio (? ), was young and having his position changed.
Lovren came from Southampton after years In England and played in his natural position, as well as being older.
Oranges and lemons.


23 Jun 2017 07:48:28
I'm not so worried about Lovren as a starter, alongside Matip he's been OK. My concern is if one of them get injured.


23 Jun 2017 08:00:15
He is a good defender, problem is he could be having a good game for 75 minutes and the next 15 he looses all his abilities as a defender and human being in general and is just a error prone pair of legs with no brain, no reading of the game whatsoever. Simply put if he is put under pressure by opposition he bottles it up most times.
Again he is not a bad defender but i feel he lacks the fight when oppositions have a go at us. He is just no hyppia, carragher or agger as of yet and i feel we need an updgrade.
that said i would not be disheartened though if we carry on with the pair of lovren and matip.
i certainly donot see VVD as major improvement over Lovren. and there are very limited CB options out there.


23 Jun 2017 08:47:03
The whole defence needs improving.

More important than signing Salah.

We have to cut out the nonsense at defending set pieces.

A defensive lynchpin with leadership qualities and the abiliy to pull it all together iz a must.

Such players are unfortunately few and far between.


23 Jun 2017 08:56:54
My concern really is that we don't have a centre back partnership. Two persons to play together for at least 30 league games. Let them build an understanding. We haven't had that in a very long time.


23 Jun 2017 05:47:16
Guys, let's be serious here! Where are the Melwood lean pictures! Or are they planning a double lean with (Navy) Keita?

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23 Jun 2017 06:42:59
If you notice it closely, he is ever so slightly leaning on the contract.


 
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