Liverpool Banter Archive May 23 2015

 

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23 May 2015 23:10:33
Would we sell Raheem to Man City? I don't see them as rivals, they'll be going for the title and playing CL football. Aren't Spurs and Southampton more likely to be rivals next season, for that converted 5th place?

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24 May 2015 00:11:27
He can go where we will get the most money for him. He should only be a problem for around 2 games a season if he joins a premier league team. The money we get for him will hopefully mean we are not worried about other teams at all, but I live in a dream world.

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24 May 2015 00:44:21
Your posts are depressing. Even if some are realistic, I honestly do not see what your post here has added to the site other than a boring moan.

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{Ed007's Note - Well if we're being honest, at least it wasn't just a pointless whine like yours, what does your post add to the site? You can't even manage to stay on topic and would rather attack another poster for passing his opinion than tell them why you disagree. Obviously understanding irony goes way over your head, try listening to more Alanis Morissette.}

24 May 2015 03:42:04
Nailed it, Ed!

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24 May 2015 11:26:20
Well, we beat City with the current team so there's hope. I agree with you Max, but let's try and be supportive and optimistic. How's a team going to believe if the fans don't, right?

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24 May 2015 12:22:53
Alanis makes it into a thread! Haha, I just love this site. You just never can tell what you're going to read next!

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23 May 2015 22:23:58
I'm hoping we announce early on the signings of Montoya from Barca, and the free signing of Konoplyanka.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying in any way these deals are done. I just think signing these two would be great business by the club.

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24 May 2015 03:48:57
They are both not good enuff. Kono has interest from other clubs YET nobody has made a play for him as even Spurs have rejected him. That scares me that not a soul has made an offer yet. Also, Montoya has rarely gotten a game this year so why is he good enuff for us? VCos he played at Barca? Nonsense, IMO. In my opinion, they are not what we need

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{Ed001's Note - Spurs did not reject him.}

24 May 2015 06:24:43
Montoya is an average player. Konoplyanka would be a good addition but is he needed with Ibe being given a brand new 5-year deal?

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24 May 2015 07:06:33
Pretty sure the Ed's have said he is being looked at by about 8 different clubs and that we don't have any recent interest since we tried and failed to get him previously. i'm sure we aren't one of the three English clubs that have enquired about him. I am guess Konoplyanka is a non starter.

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24 May 2015 11:27:53
Montoya is a good player and pretty much everything that Glen Johnson isn't. Have you watched any of Barca's games this season?

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25 May 2015 04:29:50
I have, actually. He is always in street clothes in the stands so don't know which Barca games you watch

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23 May 2015 21:52:47
ed2 is monchi thinking of leaving? I know like 0.1% of him coming to us but what an addition he would be.

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{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him from elsewhere.}

24 May 2015 11:28:17
Do we hold interest?

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{Ed002's Note - Not at this time.}

23 May 2015 21:38:53
Hi Eds
Whats happening with Yann M`Vila? Where we interested at any stage?

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{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages.}

23 May 2015 21:24:13
Eds, on the Arsenal Page you mentioned Begovic, do you see us showing interest? . and perhaps could you share which clubs are interested? If you can. Thanks a bunch.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not shown interest.}

23 May 2015 20:25:52
have we shown any interest in Napolis Hamsik? i think he would be an ideal replacement for stevie g and get us goals from midfield and with Napoli looking unlikely to get into the champions league he may look 2 move on??

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{Ed002's Note - If Hamsik were to move then the EPL might well be an option. But for now that does not look like the case particularly given his issues with Benitez are seemingly over and Benitez will be gone soon.}

24 May 2015 06:25:34
Seemingly, a lot of the Napoli players have a problem with Benitez Ed002.

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{Ed002's Note - Three that I am aware of.}

23 May 2015 20:21:14
Question for Ed1, you mentioned Unai Emery as a potential replacement for Brendan a while back, but said this may be difficult due to Sevilla being CL candidates. Now that they have finished outside of the CL spaces, would this make him a more realistic option (assuming they don't win the EL that is)? I don't want to speculate on who will be the next manager, or even whether BR will leave, I'm just curious as to who realistic candidates might be. I think too many people are wrapped up in Klopp / Anchelotti / Rafa, and because we think LFC is the be all and end all of the footballing world, it is hard to view our club objectively, like the rest of the footballing world does. Thanks mate

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{Ed001's Note - it really depends on him. With there being a possibility Monchi could be leaving Sevilla this summer, I would expect him to consider his future there, which would make him an option.}

23 May 2015 22:21:31
Thanks Ed, is it known where Monchi may end up?

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{Ed002's Note - No, but there is strong interest from Napoli.}

24 May 2015 06:26:47
That must be fun for Monchi, working with De Laurentis, who is a nutter.

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24 May 2015 07:08:13
I wouldn't say no to Unai Emery if he became available. I think.e has done a great job at Sevilla

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24 May 2015 11:30:44
Has done wonders at Sevilla. Great coach.

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23 May 2015 20:23:30
Whats everyones thoughts of maybe using coates as a holding midfielder. he's tall/strong and can pass. Good positonal sense and could save us money.

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23 May 2015 20:45:17
Think he is too slow tbh but seems to be doing ok on loan this season

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23 May 2015 21:02:46
You must have sun stroke.

The lad can't even run.

Anyway, what's wrong with Lucas?

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23 May 2015 21:03:21
Severe lack of pace though. :/

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23 May 2015 22:06:04
Please, no more of these types of suggestions. Absolutely none of our CB can play that position, they struggle enough as it is in their most natural positions. Not even can is ready for that position.

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23 May 2015 22:09:19
Don't have to be the quickest in that position, if he can read the game well he will already be in position. Would be a benefit attacking and defending corners. But pointless as even when playing well in preseason he was never given a chance.

Add him to the list.

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23 May 2015 21:19:08
Terrible suggestion .

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23 May 2015 21:23:47
Is this you BR?

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23 May 2015 21:51:40
I using matic as an e.g haha as he's tall not that fast but one of the best holding mids in europe

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23 May 2015 22:34:01
I think Coates would be brilliant up front if Sturridge is injured. He can hold the ball up really well and what about that goal he scored once? Yeah, put him up front!

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23 May 2015 23:42:07
"what about that goal he scored once? "

Puts him on par with the four strikers we've got who've scored less than Evertons four defenders.

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24 May 2015 00:54:30
Ilori holding mid in an emergency?

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24 May 2015 00:49:15
Coates can't really run, as plenty others have noted. I'm surprised nobody picked you up on Coates' passing, I think he's poor in possession he doesn't look comfortable on the ball.

Anyway it's a terrible idea. And we still have Lucas and even if he was to leave we have Williams and Rossiter. Can should start in midfield too next season.

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24 May 2015 04:56:30
Baffles me posts like this. Moving aside Rodgers dropped our best dm in Lucas despite the fact we get results with him. How many players do we want playing in positions they're not supposed to? Why would you not just play can there and put Coates in defence? Probably because most feel Coates isn't good enough so why is he good enough to play in another position where he less used to it? Just shows Rodgers short comings after his 215 mil, we still have so many positions that need strengthening.

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24 May 2015 07:13:15
Coates strikes me as other one who didn't really get a fair chance to make it here. I wouldn't be against giving him a run next season. Along with Ilori. I think it's a shame it seems both of these guys haven't been given a proper chance.

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24 May 2015 11:31:21
Coates as CDM? What are you smoking, boy?

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23 May 2015 19:22:30
Afternoon eds few rumours doing the rounds about gaitan and salvio from benfica as replacements for sterling if he goes. Any info cheers

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23 May 2015 19:38:16
Interesting statistic: out of all football managers in the world, Rodgers is nr 9 on the list of top spenders since 2004. When you consider he's only been in the top flight since 2011 that stat is nothing short of shocking.

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23 May 2015 20:11:31
Where are Dalglish and Benitez ?
For a club without a multi billionaire sugar daddy backer Liverpool's spending per premier league point is awful.
So much more could and should have been achieved for the vast amounts of money that's been spent and putting the clubs very existence in question, now that really is shocking and a different way should be tried.

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23 May 2015 20:45:47
Back then you could buy a stevie g for £20million now a pougba is an estimated £70million. not the same type of player i know. Attacking players are usually more expensive So what would he have been worth in today's market.
There are many reason's to have ago at Rodger without using rubbish like that.

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23 May 2015 23:45:44
"There are many reason's to have ago at Rodger without using rubbish like that."

It isn't rubbish though. Brendan's record in the transfer market doesn't even reach the dizzy heights of abysmal. He's spent an absolute fortune in a very short space of time (over 100M in less than 12 months alone) and has very very little to show for itother than mostly dross.

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24 May 2015 03:56:43
Why is it rubbish? All we are doing is stating facts which completely support the notion that BR is a failure in the TW and even the owners knew this after his first two years hence, the commitee. If you cannot handle facts then don't join a conversation discussing them especially if you don't have the energy to do so

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23 May 2015 18:24:15
I have been watching the German league final day game earlier and after the game they went to Dortmund to see Klopp walk around ground it was stated that Klopp had been to Turkey during the week to talk to a football club about being manager think this may put Klopp out of contention for LFC so Rogers could be with us next season .
One other thing reading some post's you can't gel a team when you bring in several players per season Ferguson said he always tried to have two players for each position we have one keeper, four right backs three left backs five centre half's six wing backs four centre midfields five centre forwards try gel that lot mate

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{Ed002's Note - Fenerbahce have shown an interest in Klopp.}

23 May 2015 18:45:34
Klopp to the Kop is the headline they're waiting to print.
I think it would be a perfect match

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{Ed002's Note - You don't think Klipperty is awaiting the Arsenal job then?}

23 May 2015 19:35:58
Come on, Arsene will go on and on and on

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23 May 2015 19:40:43
He'll have to wait in that case.

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23 May 2015 19:12:58
Not unless he's a very patient man Ed, I think Arsene may well reconsider and want a new contract in 2 years time if we are anything like close to being either champions league or premier league champions between now and then.

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24 May 2015 03:58:12
He has been doing that for over ten years now and still no CL or PL titles so when is that' going to change?

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23 May 2015 18:02:57
hi ed002. it seams we are desperate for a striker who will not get injured and score 20 odd goals. so far you mentioned manduzic and benteke and i really like them both especially mandzukic who is born winner and remember won everything with bayern and scoring in ucl final,best in the air runs his socks off every game and has a real passion. i was wondering is he a realistic signing because sterilng is good as gone. what sort of fee would atletico command. and do you think he is better value for money than benteke

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{Ed002's Note - I have no interest in discussing money but Mandzukic will be sold this summer as Atletico look to fund a bid for Cavani and Vietto. Manchester City see Mandzukic as a replacement for Dzeko and it is a solution that perhaps suits all. Liverpool, Napoli and Monaco also have an interest in the player. "Apparently" (an agent's "apparently"), Manchester United and Arsenal remain interested. Maybe not.}

23 May 2015 18:21:33
thanks ed you are legend!

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23 May 2015 17:56:06
Can anyone give an assessment of how our loan players have done this season

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23 May 2015 17:55:36
You'll have to excuse me if this is just hearsay but my younger brother works for standard chartered his boss who's a Liverpool season ticket holder has been told that BR's job is on the line, has any of the Eds heard anything and also if you don't mind me asking what do you think off Rodgers

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{Ed002's Note - You need to read the posts Sid.}

23 May 2015 18:47:05
Macca posted that same thing.

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23 May 2015 19:31:51
why would his boss know? Cause they are the sponsor's? Don't think it works like that bud!
Might be wrong, and if I am Il book myself onto an Emirates flight so I can ask the flight attendent who are arsenal going to sign in the summer.
just messing.😆

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23 May 2015 19:43:18
Ed2, what is your opinion on Rodgers?

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{Ed002's Note - I was still living in the States when Clodagh Rodgers was popular here, so I can't really help.}

24 May 2015 01:21:05
"why would his boss know? Cause they are the sponsor's? Don't think it works like that bud!"

And you don't think people who invest big money into a sports team don't know more about what is going on in that club than the average joe on the street? Seriously?

In fact, it would be a dereliction of their corporate responsibilities if executives at Standard Chartered did not know what was going at LFC.

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24 May 2015 05:16:18
In saying all that, if you were ploughing 10 of millions in sponsorship into a club you would be entitled to ask questions about how the club intends to move forward on and off the field. You would want to see how that money is being justified which FSG would no doubt have to answer. They may not be specific but they could Disclose things such as ' there will be a managerial review ' etc

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23 May 2015 17:47:30
I am watching as I am typing higuain he is not what we need he is to slow for our football he suits RAFA's style of play Progba is not worth 70 million as being bandied about he has a lot to do to command a fee of that size foe me .

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23 May 2015 17:42:20
i just can't understand why he is letting ilori go and keeping toure, no offence to toure but i would rather have ilori, the lad can only get better and his value will go up, is BR the right man to bring the club forward, i think not and he has no-one to blame but himself, his mad positionchanges of players and the fact he can't handle sterling i think ilori will become one of the best defenders in the world he has it all accept faith from BR well he has joe allen who i think BR will usee to replace SG, in BRs mind JA is one of the best the owners have not made many mistakes but by keeping BR then it will be pne of their biggest mistakesif not the biggest

i can't see BR getting the players we need for the team so he is going to stick with his P.O.P tactics POP ( players out of position )oh well as long as we keep going to the games the owners will be happy and count the ticket sales,

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{Ed002's Note - Ilori won't go at the price being asked.}

23 May 2015 18:02:34
Ed I appreciate illori has been handled poorly and an exit is likely. If we can't sell due to asking price would he be willing to stay if given chances or is he desperate for the move as well?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot see why he would want to stay with a club that has done so much damage to his career.}

23 May 2015 18:33:07
Maybe the new head coach will convince Ilori to stay

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{Ed002's Note - The club are actively trying to sell Ilori.}

23 May 2015 18:44:47
That's a shame, more cluelessness.

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23 May 2015 18:48:04
And another one bites the dust.

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23 May 2015 19:50:58
What is wrong with the people running the footballing side of our wonderful club? I've watched Ilori play in ligue 1 a couple times this season and he's been very good.

What's the point of a strategy that's never executed?

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24 May 2015 07:32:27
There is no purpose to the money we spend, players never given a chance. Players bought then seeing similar players out on loan.

This is fsg side of things to be putting the right people in charge and to have a plan to move forward. For me the owners just haven't got the first idea.

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23 May 2015 17:16:28
Gday Eds, just wondering if you'd see the Sterling money being spent on Benfica's Salvio as a good deal, if you can compare, you think it would be a good/better direct replacement?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

23 May 2015 16:42:20
Hi eds do you see us targeting Milner and Ings even if the manager is changed?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

23 May 2015 17:54:08
This is why players want to leave the club and decent players don't want to join. I'm already looking forward to the season after,, when Brendan is gone

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24 May 2015 07:34:03
Pathetic! The top 4 will sign real quality and we sign ings and Milner.

We are already behind and by the looks of it never really going to catch up.

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24 May 2015 09:59:23
I think Milner and Ings would be quality signings for us, let's hope we can pull them off.

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23 May 2015 16:40:31
3 players I wish we had gone for in recent years are Turan, Medel and Honda.

I know it's not as simple as just 'getting them' but looking at who we've bought in the last few years and how much has been spent surely we could have made an attempt for these sorts of players.

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23 May 2015 17:49:34
Honda never wanted to come to England. Italy was always above England in choices.

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23 May 2015 17:51:08
what about Aguero , Silva, Mata , Alves all could of been wearing our shirt for less than the combined fee's Rogers layed out last season

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23 May 2015 18:18:24
@ Nevada. ahh haa thank you. I never knew that. Unlucky. I'm still a bit disappointed that we didn't even try but the reason you state is understandable.

@Albeydered. agree with those names too.

Would have been amazing to have got Aguero!

In terms of Mata. I may be wrong but I feel like I remember us dealing with his agent (his father I believe) and having convos regarding the possible transfer but that never materialised and the rest is history.

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23 May 2015 18:49:47
He wanted to go to Chelsea regardless of our interest and who could have blamed him? Not me, tbh.

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23 May 2015 15:30:03
Hey Ed001, what do u make of Konoplyanka as a player? If Sterling were to leave(which is looking very likely), would Kono be a good addition for the wide player berth or would u sign only a striker this summer? Personally i think Kono would be a good addition to the squad.

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{Ed001's Note - he won't be joining and I am not sure he is good enough for where we are now. No improvement on Ibe etc, so why bring him in?}

23 May 2015 15:57:52
Disagree. He is a fantastic player ed.

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{Ed002's Note - Stoke City, Wolfsburg, Napoli, Roma, Sevilla, West Ham, Spurs, Shakhtar and Bayer Leverkusen have shown recent interest in Konoplyanka who is able to sign a pre-contract with any non Ukrainian side. Sevilla, Spurs, Napoli and Roma have put the most effort in to trying to put a deal in place for the summer but Spurs seemed to have dropped their interest. His is representatives have rejected an offer from West Ham, telling them his preferred destination is Arsenal. If Liverpool are going to look to the player again (and I don't know that they are), then it would be perhaps to replace Sterling. Macca has said there is still interest. I understand the player would be interested if approached - but there have only been approaches from three English clubs at this time - Stoke, West Ham and Spurs. Clubs have been able to approach him since January. Dnipro have additionally offered him a new contract.}

23 May 2015 16:20:30
Score more goals than ibe would. Agree if we want to be in top 4 we need to aim higher but he's definitely better than ibe right now!

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23 May 2015 16:49:39
If all these clubs are interested in some way YET not a soul has stepped up and Spurs have outright rejected signing him per the Daily Fail, that means there's something wrong with him as a player and we would do well to step away. Btw with the way the owner messed with us the last time, I don't blame us looking the other way and also, we can use his wages and signing bonuses to pool into getting a true striker that we DO need because we are ok out wide.

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23 May 2015 17:49:13
Seen him a couple of times and personally disagree, is a very good player with pace and skill. Even so may disagree on quality but think we need a proper wide player and he would improve our squad by being just that, plus would offer something different instead of a creative attacking player better behind the striker (lallana, coutinho, Markovic, sterling, etc).

Sorry for the random "how do you rate them" but be curious to know what you think of higuain?

From what you say it is highly unlikely but a perfect summer would be higuain, konoplyanka, and lucas staying, icing would be kondogbia!

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{Ed002's Note - Well, Higuain has scored goals everywhere he has been - and pretty much a goal every other game. PSG may look to Higuain if Cavani is sold and Benzema not available. Arsenal may turn to Higuain as an option if they cannot bring in their first choice. And Manchester United may consider Higuain again. If Liverpool had achieved Champions League football he may have been a player they would look to - and perhaps they could still. It is not out of the question that he could stay at Napoli to see how he gets on post Benitez.

I am not aware of interest from Liverpool in Kondogbia. Kondogbia has had varying fortunes since moving to Monaco and whilst they were willing to let him move on both in the summer and, if the price was right in January, the only interested clubs have immediately back down for financial reasons. Monaco has FFP problems which are a little worse than those of Liverpool. They will certainly be looking to sell players this summer. Chelsea and Arsenal may well rekindle their interest in Kondogbia - but both will look to other players first.}

23 May 2015 19:53:09
Cheers for the reply eds, would love higuain but my affair with Christina Hendricks looks more likely! Can still hope though

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23 May 2015 12:55:58
{Ed033's Note - kawabanga has written an article entitled, Defensive summer transfer plans if I were LFC manager if you would like to read or comment on it.

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23 May 2015 14:28:04
Hi eds, i am sure you have been asked before but here goes.

Obviously nobody will get it right most the time but apart from your good selves, who tends to have reliable enough info or sources?

I tend to listen to you guys, macca and find independent and telegraph often not so far off. Overseas i haven't really got a clue who tends to have reliable enough sources

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{Ed002's Note - I really have no idea.}

23 May 2015 17:52:04
Keep your eye on these forums. Some posters share from time to time. I share whatever info I get from Italy and Spain as I know a few people in the sport in those countries. But there are others who share about the French and Dutch league too though I can't remember who they are right now.

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23 May 2015 14:13:38
Hi Ed's,

Benteke and ings are most discussed striker options in media.

I have also did a search in our pages but there is n't much regarding Charlie Austin.

Since QPR is relegated there is good chance that we can get him.

He is not a youth prospect (aged 25). He seems to be on peak of his career.

Also scored 15 plus goals in last 3 seasons( seems to be consistent). Very hard working and less injury prone as well.
Goal ratio with previous clubs looks fantastic as well. Did really good job with relegated team.

Unless QPR ask ridiculous money, we can get him right.

Or do you think he is not of liverpool interest at all.

Thank You.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown no interest in him.}

23 May 2015 14:16:48
Hi. In your opinion are there any players out there who would desperately want to join the reds for the love of the club?
Like a new Carra. Gerard. Fowler. Thompson. Neal. Hughes.

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23 May 2015 16:51:56
That era has passed. Players wanna win, compete and make money, all in one go. If they can do that consistently then they will "love" the club and wanna join

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23 May 2015 13:37:53
Hello to all EDS and fellow REDS

I think this time BR has done it to himself! Going on about that he is 150% sure he will be at Liverpool next year?!!!

I think he's gone and he knows it. He keeps assuring everyone that the review with FSG is just a review, but How?

After so much expenditure? So many mistakes? So many players bought and then sent on Loan??? Why???
There are a lot of questions to be answered. Many for which there are no answers unless someone owns up that they made a mistake!
FSG will seek answers and if they are who they say and think they are then BR has had his day.

Or am I just wishful thinking?

YNWA

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23 May 2015 16:55:03
Apologies if i'm mixing u up with someone else Iran.

Didn't u say last week that because Stevie said BR was the right man for the job, that you wanted him to stay on??

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23 May 2015 17:00:21
Like all politicians, he is as deluded and thinks he's leading the polls even tho they say the exact opposite. I wouldn't pay any attention to his blabbing off to the media because he's a proven liar and deflector which is why as Ed and Macca said, many of the players and staff are done with him. I'll take their info and opinion over his and those of his apologists here and his acolytes in the media

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23 May 2015 13:02:46
So, gutted to say it but he seems sure he's staying. So I think we should just accept it and start looking forward to next year with the positive things. The stadium, the years experience for the new signings, the maturity of growth. Oh god I can't do it, I just keep thinking about ilori not getting a game despite being a technical CB quicker than Ronaldo. marko lallana etc being played out of position. Losing Lucas. The positives will never out weigh the fool br. I actually stopped making the effort to watch us under hodgson, when I think back to it, I just remember dark clouds over head. Starting to feel it again.

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23 May 2015 13:56:45
I am dreading next season if BR still in charge. The return of Sakho and Lucas to the first team after both were dropped led to our improved performances and a string of wins. Neither are given public credit by BR and apparently both could leave this summer. We sold Kelly, loaned out Wisdom, loaned in Manquillo who seemed to be doing well, replace him with a midfielder Can. Can has experience of playing left full at previous club, is played on right, meanwhile GJ right full back is played at left full back. Both GJ who is leaving and Can who will play midfield are played instead on Manquillo and our new signing Moreno. Moreno tries to settle into premier league and is played as wing back, the lad literally doesn't know if he's coming or going. Lovern is bought to replace Sakho, Agger is sold, turns out Lovern is far worse than the other two. Stevie G is a great finisher with no legs, instead of playing him higher up, he is played as DM. Lallana is usually subbed around the hour mark. Markovic also trying to settle in is played at wing back, when more attacking play is needed he gets subbed. Don't get me started on Joe Allen. BR signed Borini, Mario and Lambert, although our number one striker has being missing most of the season, none of that trio have featured regularly. 30 million wasted there alone. BR might change the players and the system 3 or 4 times tomorrow against Stoke. It has happened throughout the season. I hope BR goes soon. We do have the core of a good squad, but players are being played out of position. Some are given credit while others more worthy are shunned. When they do well BR takes credit, when they lose BR doesn't share the responsibility. We deserve better.

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23 May 2015 14:04:49
Benny

Rodgers is ignorant to the fact he's had a poor season.

Lets just wait and see

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23 May 2015 14:21:38
I agree with Lavers. If Rodgers can't tell when his team has put in a bad performance, I'm sure he's equally blind to his own deficiencies. He would probably sum up his previous nine months in charge as 'outstanding'.

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23 May 2015 17:05:51
He's that deluded unfortunately for us or he is saying all these things so that when the chop comes, it will come as a shock to all bar many of us here that way, he'll turn the focus to the owners who would be in the eyes of the clueless media, the culprits for sacking him.

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23 May 2015 20:14:50
I'm really hoping he is replaced, but reading between the lines, I genuinely believe he is staying. It looks like the owners will keep him for next season. I think they are good owners, but the fact they are thousands of miles away and know little about football will continue to be an issue!

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24 May 2015 01:56:39
He's staying, move on

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23 May 2015 12:29:57
Ed's. What with Can playing out of position and Toure sure to be off and Lovren and Sakho looking shaky at best this season. And seeing a bit of Illori play this season and reading some reports do you have anything as to why he's looking to be shipped out and another young talent gone?

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{Ed002's Note - Ilori is not part of the plans of Rodgers. Liverpool have done enough damage to his career and are happy to move him on.

I still expect Toure to stay.}

23 May 2015 18:41:30
Would llori be ready to stay if we changed manager and he was therefore given a chance?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea. Liverpool have disrupted his career and are trying to sell him.}

23 May 2015 12:20:32
Hi eds just like to hear your views on Henderson, getting the captains armband, getting a 100k a week contract, and besides doing a lot of huffing n puffing what he actually offers as a centre mid, would he get into any of the top 4 midfields? For me our team lacks power strength and as Bren would say character as in leaders like alonso gerrard agger reina Suarez carra and so on . It's like to hear fans views on the likes of hendo as captain and who else they see stepping up to the plate, thanks

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{Ed002's Note - So Henderson out then and living in the past - extolling the vitues of those who have gone including the DF that wanted to sue the club.

The Dalai Lallana would be the obvious replacement. }

23 May 2015 13:08:16
Senseless post! Players are potentially jumping ship and the one who has the passion and belief to wanna stay and work is getting slated. If you like the past so much, you can move there and hang out with all these old guys and leave the rest of us to work on the future of our great club.

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23 May 2015 13:40:49
I must've imagined our unbeaten run whilst he was captain then.

Not to mention his 7 goals and 15 assists this season.

Just like Lucas, Hendo is massively under rated and there is a reason Rodgers shocking tactics were covered up when those two played in central midfield together for a couple of months. Probably our 2 best players and they seem to get constant stick because they're not quite as fancy as Coutinho or Sturridge.

Henderson has 3 times the assists of Coutinho who is dubbed a creative genius.

Just to clarify, I'm not criticising Couts either. If we played a midfield 3 of Lucas Holding, Hendo getting up and down with Coutinho in the advanced position we'd be winning a lot of games. Sadly, Rodgers prefers Coutinho out of position at left wing, Henderson at right wing back to accommodate Gerrard and Allen, and Lucas in the stands on the phone to Inter Milan.

Jesus that man knows how to misuse his best assets.

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23 May 2015 15:12:42
Clearly BR is out of his depth and doesn't know his best players. But if he stays on beond the last game then the blame has to lie with fsg qs they should now know it's time to get rid of him.

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23 May 2015 15:54:32
Henderson has been unfortunate to be a player who's been moved about constantly throughout the season. I remember against Arsenal him playing as a right centre back it seemed at times. Last season he was fantastic and he should be one of the first players on the team sheet with Lucas. As for captain if he doesn't get it, Lucas should although that'll never happen. Lallana and Sakho only other two I could think long term. Knowing Rodgers Joe Allen will probably get it for his fantastic character

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23 May 2015 12:16:37
Eds I would love us to sign psg's veratti I think the lad would be a excellent addition. And also with many strikers being linked I think gabbiadini of napoli has been superb this season and I believe he will only get better.

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{Ed002's Note - Not going to happen, sorry.}

23 May 2015 12:21:41
Ed002 I know m8, do u rate these players urself.

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{Ed002's Note - Verratti would likely struggle in England and has no interest in moving here. Gabbiadini is well respected but won't be moving to England any time soon - having already turned down the opportunity.}

23 May 2015 12:30:27
Ed002 Do u think micah Richards would b a good signing for rightback?

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{Ed002's Note - Rodgers has a system that does not involve a right back per se and Micah Richards would add nothing whilst that is the case. Liverpool already has right backs they are not using and Rodgers has Toure and Can who can play the right side of defence. It appears that Micah Richards would not likely get much playing time if he were to join. Add that to there being lots of interest in him but none whatsoever from Liverpool, and I doubt he is one to hold your breath over.}

23 May 2015 12:35:39
Marco Verratti is absolutely class. Imagine if we had him!!!
We'd defo be selling him to our rivals this Summer and making loads of money to buy Fabian Delph

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23 May 2015 13:09:46
Cos BR is not interested in any other DM whose name is not Allen or even Delph

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23 May 2015 13:29:20
What Rodgers does or doesn't want is irrelevant as he'll be signing on forthwith

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23 May 2015 20:16:23
Rodgers system is deeply flawed. It need to be more flexible against opponents with pacy wingers. It leaves a much slower CB to cover from the side, usually 1 on 1, allowing space both inside and at the edges of the box. Last game vs crystal palace was a perfect example of an incomptetent manager.

When implemented effectively, a 4 man backline with a CDM dropping deep when needed is much more pragmatic and dynamic. Why doesn't that work for Liverpool? Gerrard is not a CDM and Lucas is too slow. He's good, but a little too slow to cover the centre of the park in the EPL.

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22 May 2015 21:26:51
Eds are there any south american players we might look at ones who aren't big tent signings who we might be un aware of ?

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

23 May 2015 22:13:23
We should have a look at Marcos Guilerme, brazilian winger as well as his team mate Douglas Coutinho 22. Both will play for Brazil at some point in my opinion. Danilo brazilian DM we have been linked with since two summers ago although we are aware of him. Ezequiel Ponce young argentine striker though would need to sharpen his tools in another european league first. Lucas Romero young argentine DM similar in style to paulinho.

we could always take a gamble on previously linked players like Renato Augusto and Romulo DM at Spartak Moscow.

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22 May 2015 21:00:42
Mr edd 2 I believe last year said that Liverpool owners were paying off debts to tune of 1million per week. Has this amount been slashed and will this hinder the club regarding the fair play if it has not. I don't need figures just hoping it was dealt with many cheers mr edd 2

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{Ed002's Note - No, I think you misunderstood. During their first three years of ownership Liverpool were increasing their debt by £1M per week. The club carries very, very significant debt.}

23 May 2015 12:08:11
with exception to good managers like wenger are we in more debt though than other big english clubs?

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23 May 2015 13:24:15
Thanks mr edd 2 have a good weekend

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22 May 2015 18:21:08
Rodgers just cannot keep that mouth full of pearly whites shut can he.

Ed's have you heard his comments about Sterling? Ed02. I know you have mentioned the Webster ruling. is he that stupid that he cannot side step a question asked of him instead of making a statement about Sterling being at LFC for the remainder of his contract or two further years.

Can LFC enforce this although I would not see the point in doing. taking that approach and if not is this another foot in
mouth case?

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot account for what he has said - it makes very little sense at all.}

23 May 2015 12:42:41
Atleast he knows mathemathics, being 327% certain he'll be here next season and all.

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23 May 2015 12:53:09
No, he can't. It seems his mouth is a seperate person outside his body, that he can't control. Three yrs with countless warnings from the owners to watch his mouth yet all we see is him not being able to keep it shot.

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23 May 2015 13:30:20
I wouldn't worry Ohio he'll be off next week

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23 May 2015 13:47:46
Nothing that a 1000 managers have said about players before. Not a big deal.

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23 May 2015 17:11:22
If your bosses keep telling you to stop doing something and you think it's not a big deal, you'll be out of a job really soon just as your boy may well find out pretty soon

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23 May 2015 10:38:11
This time last year we were all singing the praises of BR and the team and this year it is exactly the opposite so what's changed.

We lost a world class player and didn't replace him.

Our manager has a serious case of foot in mouth

One of our bright prospects wants to leave, as the dirty laundry was aired in public.

Our transfer business was rash rather than methodical and we played a numbers game, get enough in and surely some will come good.

Our main striker was injured for the majority and the backup strikers we had for that didn't get a chance.

Our manager has a serious case of foot and mouth.

All this has contributed to us not capitalising on a serious chance of getting top four and building on last year. The others around us all improve and top four next year will be more difficult.

So how do we move on.

Personally I feel Rodgers has stitched himself up and hasn't learned from his mistakes. It is a shame as when he joined I thought maybe this might just work.

I will be surprised if sterling stays but, if he goes we should get some decent cash and Liverpool will move on.

Trust our youth, I'm not saying they should play 38 games but there are some very bright stars in the making and plan their futures rather than our current ad-hoc approach.

Invest in the key areas in our squad, Striker and replace Sterling.

Personally I would use preseason

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23 May 2015 11:21:03
Totally agree with how and why you got where you are now.
Personally I think the club has allowed successive mangers waste vast amounts of money paying way over the odds on inadequate players.
Stewart Downing 20 mil ? Andy Carol 35 mil ? Benitez Dalglish and Roger's have all been guilty of gross incompetence in the transfer market spending money the club couldn't afford to lose to recklessly and freely.
The club need to take thier time in choosing Rogers successor and find a man who is in it for the long haul who is happy to only spend what he brings in through sales for a while and get the stadium upgrade paid for asap while rebuilding solid foundations that are well in place when money to spend on playees is more readily available.

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23 May 2015 11:55:36
I think we all have a similar opinion of last season. This years results have proved Suarez was the main reason we achieved top 4.Rodgers keeps playing without a drilled back line or a CDM who plays the role correct. Our best spell this season was when Lucas got a run of games. Lucas should have been 1st name on the team sheet when fit, but that's Rodgers downfall, he doesn't pay enough respect to the opposition .Look at Mourihno, he watched Utd beat Spurs us and City and set his team up to defend, marked them out of the game and got the result, pretty, no. But he won another title.

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{Ed002's Note - Living in the past still - move on. The runt hated Liverpool and destroyed the club's reputation across the world. He cost Dalglish his job and the fans have given their support to Suarez rather than Dalglish - it goes to show what the Liverpool fans have become.}

23 May 2015 12:50:19
With Suarez we almost won the title, without him we finished 5th miles off.
With Suarez, Barcelona will win the treble,,, without him last season they were average

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{Ed002's Note - I appreciate that he means more to the Liverpool fans than Dalglish - a man who did so much for the club but so many of the supporters were happy to see discarded in favour of the MF. How many games was he banned for whilst at Liverpool (25 or so and then a further x month ban that was avoided by his sale). What did he cost the club in reputation? A great deal. And the cost in embarrassment of having a player threaten legal action and actively court other clubs? Don't ever talk of any proud history of the club and supporters - it is long gone now.}

23 May 2015 13:14:56
Dalglish backed him totally and quite rightly paid the price for doing so, its just a shame the club only got it 50% right by allowing Suarez to stay.

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23 May 2015 13:50:14
Yes and Arsenal wanted to buy him.

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23 May 2015 13:08:33
Why have I shown a lack of support to Dalglish by pointing out Suarez was the main reason we finished top 4. I named my son Kenny, after the greatest player I have witnessed in a Liverpool shirt. When Kenny got sacked I said I wished we would have sold Suarez at the same time. You just keep using Suarez behaviour to have a dig at Liverpool fans. Suarez was a nasty cheat, and I am glad he left, but his goals have been missed, by saying that in no way wishes we still had him at the club, or warrant you have ago at me. You don't know me.

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{Ed002's Note - The Liverpool fans go on and on about Suarez - they live in the past - they respect the foul little runt that has largely destroyed the reputation of the club - the new breed of fans are quite frankly awful. Dalglish should have nothing to do with the club and the fans that completely discarded him. I am more than happy not to know you.}

23 May 2015 14:06:47
Spot on Ed002. It's a real shame how it all turned out.

I know we NEARLY won the league last season with Suarez, but we didn't! As fantastic as he played, what difference has it made? We look even worse this season (partly because of unrealistic expectation from last season.)

If there was a choice between Keeping Kenny or Suarez I would have picked Kenny all day. I know many will disagree but when you look at things like racial incident, wanting to take us to court because we wouldn't sell him to Arsenal or biting 2 different opponents deliberately to help force his way out.Luis Suarez really took the p*ss out of Liverpool and all of us fans!

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23 May 2015 14:50:10
Eds 2 please don't generalise Liverpool fans as disloyal or fickle or whatever else because of this website I find I incredibly disrespectful. This is a Liverpool page. Yes you have to put up with morons a lot but seriously no need.Sadly the media is so all over football people hAve constant access to bullshit media driven stories. It s rife across the premier league fan BaSE. The new generation of football fan is built on this. I come to the site to learn from your inside knowledge and better understanding of the game and all that goes with it. Please for me will you be nice x

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{Ed002's Note - I didn't generalise - I was very specific.}

23 May 2015 14:51:13
Oh and Kenny is God suarez isn't fit to be his dog!

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23 May 2015 16:18:46
A lot of the true fans know Dalglish is the greatest Liverpool player ever, and probably one of the clubs leading legends. His name is sung in various songs (when we actually sing) but not all these fans have the insight which you have/give out Ed002 most are just fed through the papers into thinking Dalglish stood by Suarez and therefore he must have cost the club nothing

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{Ed002's Note - The Liverpool PR team screwed up prior to Liverpool’s game against Wigan on December 21, 2011 if they new what the team and Dalglish were going to do. It was very clear that evening that Dalglish would go in the summer.}

23 May 2015 10:26:07
Great to see Flanno and Ibe commit to the club. Well done lads. Flanno deserves a chance after a horrible run of bad luck through injury annd Jordan should be a joy to watch as the years progress.

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23 May 2015 10:14:55
I'd just like to ask Rodgers the Spoofer one thing? If u needed a new car would u buy a boat?????

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23 May 2015 12:35:57
He will have to buy a boat, because he is currently up 'She*p Creek' without a paddle.

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23 May 2015 12:57:47
He'd buy a boat and try to make it run on a formula one track. Then, when it doesn't work, he'll say the boat lacked intensity as nothing is ever his fault

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23 May 2015 10:03:19
Brendan rodgers said he's 150% sure he'll be manager next season - guess we won't be getting Klopp then.

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23 May 2015 10:28:16
Do you believe what this used car salesman says? Naive

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23 May 2015 10:29:04
Correct

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23 May 2015 10:47:01
That's because in Rodgers eyes we've had a good season and will finish up where we're supposed to.

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23 May 2015 12:37:04
"Wanna buy a motor?"

- Brendan Rodgers

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23 May 2015 12:45:12
Rodgers the snakeoil salesman.

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23 May 2015 13:00:52
What do you expect him to say? His arrogance knows no bounds to the point that even he thinks we had a good season and because the media is too busy getting material from his embarrassing behavior, they don't challenge him. I just hope FSG put us out of our misery.

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23 May 2015 08:50:38
Hi ed's can I ask if all the info that gets leaked to the press about lfc comes from Rodgers or is there more sources from within the club leaking info. It seems that everyday there is a larger portion of stories about lfc all over the media compared to other clubs. Most other clubs only make the headlines after their business is done while ours comes out at every stage of the process. If Rodgers gets his p45, will it lead to a complete clear out of management staff because there has to be more than him with a big mouth?
Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - most staff members at the club have it written within their contract not to reveal anything about club business.}

23 May 2015 09:25:12
Yes ed thanks for the reply. That maybe so but there does seem to be a culture of speaking to the media from within the current set up weather they are permitted to or not by their contracts. If a new manager does come in he's going to have to deal with it as well without a big clear out. A lot to be said for keeping things private until the time is right to release info.

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{Ed001's Note - no there is not, very few people are talking to the media, other than the manager and players. The staff are quiet.}

23 May 2015 09:47:20
ed001,there seems to be plenty of ex players/managers who are doing a lot of talking,they are close to the club and i think it would be naive to suggest they aren't being kept up to date by friends/colleagues inside the club

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{Ed001's Note - if you say so.}

23 May 2015 10:31:19
Not everything the media prints is from a source. They make 70% of it up.

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23 May 2015 11:19:54
Thanks for that ed. Enjoy the last weekend of the season before the madness of the transfer window. Let's hope things change over the summer for the better

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23 May 2015 12:28:26
Having a family member who works as part of the office admin and another who is a contractor providing services to some of the players, I can say that from where I stand, information is far more heavily protected now and the amount of tittle-tattle that leaks has dropped dramatically since FSG took over. Therefore who ever is feeding the press is doing it deliberately for a reason best known to themselves.

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{Ed002's Note - It is easy to find out information about most clubs. Liverpool has a DF of a manager who is more than happy to discuss club issues in public.}

23 May 2015 13:13:19
If you wanna know what's going on at the club, watch a BR presser and you'll find out. He is the reason we all know about the nature of the negotiations of RS's contract talks.

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23 May 2015 04:38:32
Ed 001, I've supported Liverpool for a long time now and I honestly can't think of a worse time than the current to support LFC. No players seems to be keen to join the club and all the media stories currently running is about LFC embarrassing themselves in 1 way or another, these are just stories, yes, and media likes to "spice up" a story by creating lies but I haven't read anything positive about liverpool in a long time, only positive things are stuff about our history, wich is completely irrelevant to me because I'm currently severely worried about my clubs future. What the hell is going on at our club??? And is there in all honesty anything positive to take out of the current situation at the club?

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{Ed001's Note - there is lots to be positive about with the stadium expansion underway, meaning we will have more money to spend in the future.}

23 May 2015 08:50:25
Last season was one of the most exciting in years. I agree this season was pretty depressing however most of that side is still around, so a couple of top players in, and hopefully a top coach, and we have enough talent to turn things around pretty quickly (Hendo/Coutinho/Llalana/Sakho/Sturridge/Can/Ibe etc. ) even assuming Sterling leaves

We need to be exceptionally careful in the coming months though as could unravel if we're not seen to buy in players that can make us competitive for the top 4 and players lose faith in Rogers (as I have)

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23 May 2015 09:13:40
All down to selling Suarez and buying carp

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23 May 2015 09:53:33
The last year of h and g's ownership was far worse.

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23 May 2015 10:32:48
There are so many drama queens it's unreal.
Can't think if a worse time?
You must have been a fan for 2 seasons then.

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23 May 2015 10:35:08
You can't blame the players! They are Carp as you put it. Seriously if a player is picked to lay for LFC how can you then blame players for not being good enough. and IMO some of those will absolutely be good enough but need to bed in over a year. Much as i am worried about liverpool i also do not think it unlikely we finish in top 3 next year, as long as we buy a good striker.

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23 May 2015 00:31:56
Hi eds, thanks for all great update on player transfer. My question is in Rogers. Has he ever taken responsibility for bad result by the team in an interview before ? I can't remember him doing that, it's always sugar coating or just blame players etc

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{Ed001's Note - no, he never takes the blame, one of the reasons he has lost the faith of so many.}

23 May 2015 09:50:09
The Manager should be made accountable for failure, especially considering the amount of funds the Owners have poured into building the squad. I believe in the squad of young players we have, most of them have shown glimpses of quality, but we need to play them. I think the way Rodgers treats them stunts their development.

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23 May 2015 00:10:07
Hi Ed
Ive just read the list youve put up on other posts to answer everyones repeated questions on possible signings.
Is there a list of players that are chomping at the bit to join Liverpool ? And if so can you post it please.
Great work by the way.

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{Ed001's Note - what list regarding repeated questions?}

23 May 2015 09:29:47
It was actually done by me. I don't think ed1 was around to see it:-D

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23 May 2015 10:49:52
Here's the list.

Ayew
Turan

Thanks for reading

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22 May 2015 23:25:24
EDs do you guys think 150% is enough or would 200% be more outstanding?

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23 May 2015 12:47:10
Depends. Is it top quality?

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23 May 2015 13:15:32
If it's from BR, I'll take neither

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23 May 2015 13:41:29
per·cent also per cent  (pər-sĕnt′)

adv.

Out of each hundred; per hundred.

n.

1. pl. percent also per cent One part in a hundred: The report states that 42 percent of the alumni contributed to the endowment. Also called per centum.

2. pl. percents A percentage or portion: She has invested a large percent of her salary.

3. percents Chiefly British Public securities yielding interest at a specified percentage.

adj.

Paying or demanding interest at a specified percentage:a 2.25 percent checking account.

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22 May 2015 22:53:13
Ed001 look like we won't get our wish Rodger think he is 150 percent sure to be manager wat do u think

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{Ed001's Note - I stand by what I have said all along.}

23 May 2015 13:16:01
BR said it so it must be true, right?

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