Liverpool Banter Archive May 23 2016

23 May 2016 23:09:20
Seems some people on here want every player sold and a whole new squad of 23 in. They also don't seem to rate any of the players linked despite not seeing them play. Hard to please some people.

23 May 2016 23:32:00
I want the best players to stay and up there game that extra percent. hopefully it will happen after a good pre season with klopp. But we need at least 4 or 5 new faces and to ship quite a few out. Buy quality and sell the ones who are under performing or aren't cutting it I'm afraid.

24 May 2016 08:09:49
If the 23 players bought in are all from Barcelona then maybe.

24 May 2016 10:29:04
8 or 9 new players will be just fine, thanks.
That's including the 2 signed in January.

24 May 2016 09:42:34
No, no ones wants a whole new 23. People want rid of the deadwood as we have an extremely bloated squad. On top of that there are a few 'first team' players that aren't exactly performing to the best of their ability, some would like to give them more time (Milner, lallana, Moreno as back up, migs as back up etc) some want rid of them and better players brought in. At the end of the day people want to see the first 11 upgraded. Our first 11 last season was about 5th or 6th place quality (city, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and arguably United all had better squads than ours) . The first 11 for next season has to improve in order for us to move up. It's all good having a new manager that can get the best out of them but we finished 8th and lost two finals, so that should explain the whole 'getting the best out of them' argument, if that's the best out of them then no doubt we need vast improvements. The improvements being scouted or have already been brought in don't exactly ooze the quality we would expect to improve the first team (not talking about marquee names) . Even before they kick a ball it's sometimes very easy to decipher who will shine and who will not. Not many of the players coming in really suggest to me that we are improving that much. Karius is an interesting one and I hope to god he's an improvement on migs. From what I've seen which is very little, he flaps at crosses and has very poor distribution, sounds familiar. On the other hand he has some qualities that migs clearly doesn't. Grujic and matip who I've seen plenty of since we signed them, offer nothing that we don't already have especially in the case of Grujic. Matip will be required especially as sahko is banned and players departing in that position, plus he was a free. Grujic, well the jury will be out and I'm pretty sure of the outcome. Goetze is an improvement on lallana, so if lallana where to leave I'd welcome him with open arms. But what would be the point of having 4 attacking midfielders and not having balance, stability or chemistry amongst the team, because as you would expect some players will be unhappy. Attacking midfielder isn't exactly the position we are lacking in right now, we need pace and players that are tricky and can run in behind as ojo and ibe are clearly not ready. Dahoud or zielinski, both seem like players we have already got. Dahoud is basically can, and the last thing we need is two cans in the middle of the park. Zielinski has a bit more quality going forward IMO as he's a forward thinking midfielder and has decent pace but again, offers nothing we are crying out for in midfield. We don't have much of a problem scoring goals, it's conceding that is our overiding issue, so get a bloody defensive minded midfielder. One that is more consistent than Lucas. I could go on and on, but what the fans want is rid of the obvious deadwood to bring in some decent coin, and buy quality over quantity. So far we haven't done these things but it's still early.

23 May 2016 18:53:08
So it seems Mario Goetze is staying at Bayern. We do seem to find it difficult bringing in really top players.

23 May 2016 19:36:41
Bayern are desperate to cash in on him, with just a yr left on his contract, ed2 as said he as no future with Bayern, we just need to meet the asking price and stop tapping up players.

23 May 2016 19:39:26
To paraphrase Ed002, RTFP.

23 May 2016 19:40:20
I only hope we don't waste money on rubbish like Yarmalenko or Shane Long.

23 May 2016 19:41:39
I think his mind was probably made up for him on Wednesday.

23 May 2016 19:42:00
Yes especially in May.

23 May 2016 19:44:14
We don't buy top players we make them!

23 May 2016 20:25:13
Good, I never liked his sly chubby face anyway. One sniff of Greggs and he would have gone full Tomas Brolin . Even if he is Klopp-kinder.

23 May 2016 20:30:50
Workshy I think we get the fact you don't like yarmalenko as I think every post you've put up, regardless of what it's about you mention his name, must be about 10 posts now lad, try another name instead so as not to sound boring.

23 May 2016 22:15:19
I'm just saying that I hope we don't go scrambling in the bargain basement for tat if we can't get a genuine world class player, Yarmelenko is just a common name that some posters on here think we should sign that frankly isn't very good. You could add Bolasi, Ben Arfa and Cheryshev as others who are poor that we should avoid.

23 May 2016 23:05:27
I'm glad he has stated his preference early to avoid another Kovacic scenario.

23 May 2016 23:09:41
I'm sorry to say yarmolenko would make any team in the prem better u look at everyone right side apart from William. He be up there with him. Just my opinion.

23 May 2016 19:28:48
I was told Klopp would attract players. Let's see.

23 May 2016 23:46:55
Workshy, bolasie i feel would add that bit of muscle and pace to our attack. And if klopp can get him to play with his head up for a pass then he will be a real gem. But dun think pardew will sell to us after his clashes with klopp.

24 May 2016 01:22:30
In other news, Seems Benteke wants to stay and fight for his place in the squad. So that means he must be staying, right? EDs have said that Goetze is available if the asking price is met. Nothing has changed in that respect.

24 May 2016 05:05:06
When a player says he wants to say, he always moves.

{Ed001's Note - did someone really say Willian was any good? Oh my, the Prem must have a dearth of right wingers if Willian is the best! Or has someone just forgotten how rubbish Willian is and how good Mahrez has been this season?}

24 May 2016 08:10:47
Willian is not good. Willian is really good at free kicks, but that's about it.

24 May 2016 08:45:38
Everyone cried when we didn't get willian ed, talk about a dodged bullet.

Buying players is never about buying the finished article, buying potential, buying 'top class' or making 'top class' players. It just doesn't work like that.

It always has, and always will, be about buying the right players that fit your club. The majority of these lads are good players, otherwise they wouldn't be at the top tier of football. Its just about getting them in a team or system that gets the best out of them, where they feel comfortable and are complimented by their team mates. Recent examples of this being mahrez, vardy, fuchs, huth, kante, alli, kane, sturridge, coutinho etc, but also expensivr players who do fit the team and win titles, such as costa and van persie.

I'm not the one who works on the training pitch with the players nor do i do the scouting, which is why i will be trusting klopp with transfers completely for this summer. You don't buy players from the japanese league and sell them on for €20 million unless you have an eye for talent and are good at coaching.

24 May 2016 07:56:58
I actually think willian has been very good this season. With out him this year chelsea would be a lot worse off and his set pieces/ workrate/ acceleration are great. Just my opinion. mahrez different class though although a bit lazy. I actually think he won't be able to repeat it this year coming but we will see!

24 May 2016 20:00:48
I thought Willian has had a good season but then again he might have been a stand out player from Chelsea who have been very poor. Though Mahrez is in his own league i think!

23 May 2016 17:22:10
Gotze's father told German daily "I know nothing of an alleged impending move to Liverpool. "Mario is my son. We talk to each other. I would know".

{Ed002's Note - The situation has been explained to you all repeatedly - nothing has changed.}

23 May 2016 20:32:22
No bid from Liverpool so no move to us, ed002 has explained this over and over. Bayern await a bid should we want him.

Baz.

23 May 2016 13:53:29
Hi Eds and Reds,

Gutted about losing that Final, but let's look towards the new season.

I would like to pose a few question to the Eds and Fellow Users.

Who do you see as a dead ball specialist in the current group of players?

Who do you see as a dead ball specialist who could potentially join the squad?

I know Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez, Neymar etc. are great dead ball specialists - Are there any players you know of that are not of that 'superstar' status (yet) .

Ever since Ronaldo left the Premier League, there hasn't really been that guy who you knew was going to hit the net from 25-35 yards out.

Please don't hate, this isn't a rumor, just wanna hear what the fellow fans think.

Thanks.

23 May 2016 17:38:26
Payet.

23 May 2016 17:50:46
Calhanoglu? I'd bet you Juninho Pernambucano could still take a better freekick than most as well even if he has been retired for a while.

23 May 2016 18:12:46
We need to sign a set piece specialist in the summer, whether that comes as a left back, holding mid, attacking mid or winger, we need someone who can take good set pieces. Not just direct free kicks but long range and corners.

Set pieces are so important in football as they can create goals against the run of play and out of nowhere, turning games on their head and swaying the momentum in tight matches. They can literally be the difference between glory and defeat, any top team will tell you that.

I'm sick and tired of us not putting enough emphasis on them, both attacking and defending, and i'm sick of seeing teams trounce us with scabby goald from set pieces without us being able to do the same. We'll never be a top team unless we can find an extra 15 goals from set pieces per season.

23 May 2016 18:15:46
The best in the EPl currently has to be Dimitri Payet. Almost Brazilian with his free kicks. And has a better success rate with crosses than Ozil. Would make sense to replace Lallana with him, instead of going for Gotze, particularly if Benteke is staying.

23 May 2016 19:45:07
Too old for the ££££ would he come he seems finally happy at west ham and the old attitude problems there's a reason some of these players are got cheep by smaller clubs.

23 May 2016 16:58:25
Ed. could the scenario of Goetze will stay at Bayern and run down his contract and have a verbal agreement in place to go to his next club (us) already? Therefore obviously gaining a bigger signing on fee?

{Ed002's Note - No, If Liverpool are party to any such agreement then they will certainly be subject to yet another charge from UEFA and a lengthy transfer ban. The club already know that they are waling a tight line having had seven charges dealt with by UEFA last week on the same day as two further charges against the club were made. Klopp's penchant for tapping up players is potentially a time bomb for an ill-disciplined club.}

23 May 2016 18:48:01
Ed2 sounds to risky for the club to ahead then with the transfer?

{Ed002's Note - Why? If Liverpool want the player they have been tapping up then they now need to go to his club and pay the asking price. They are looking to get rid of him.}

23 May 2016 16:27:40
Gotze seemingly committed to Bayern if his latest interview in Germany is anything to go by, eds any idea if this changes much or should it be taken with a pinch? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

23 May 2016 17:09:31
Sorry squire, only read the rumours page prior to posting!

23 May 2016 16:16:52
According to the Express' Paul Joyce, a move for Udinese midfielder Zielinski is Klopp's second-choice option, behind Dahoud.

23 May 2016 17:11:16
Any chance of signing both eds? or is it a case of one or the other, I still think we will sign zielinski myself but you never know how these things will turn out.

23 May 2016 15:55:08
In all honesty I would rather Mario Gotze stays with Bayern Munich next season.

The man is more concerned with picking up his big wage packet then playing for a side who offers regular match time. Losing out on Gotze is fine by me because we need players with drive and ambition not those who are just out for themselves and the money.

And besides, Gotze lost his hunger to perform a while ago and his talents have diminshed after because of frequent injuries. He is not worth the hassle, let alone 30 million as some people have quoted.

We also have a high number of attacking midfielders already at our disposal (Lallana, Coutinho, Firmino etc) and other problem areas we need to cover (Left back, centre midfield etc) .

The money should go to an area we needed strengthened and not a luxury signing that will appease the fans but offer very little else.

I might very well be in the minority here and will probably be lambasted by Liverpool fans on this site and elsewhere. But I honestly believe Klopp will shape our team into an efficient unit that is capable of beating any team drawn against us.

Just thought I would share my thoughts on Gotze, apologies if I upset anyone who really wanted him. There are better and more affordable players out there in my opinion. We just need to find them or, better yet, just tale Leicester's scouts everywhere they go and bug Steve Walsh's office for information on player recruitment:P.

23 May 2016 16:13:25
He is a world class player fit and on form, but there are much better options out there. I agree.

I'd rather we went for Rafa Silva but that's gone cold lately.

23 May 2016 16:33:01
I would set a deadline if I was klopp to get the deal done, I have to say for a player who appears less than jack whilshire he has a lot of balls, good luck with your surgery MK scouser, hope its nothing serious, love reading your posts.

23 May 2016 16:39:40
Wouldn't say he's all about the money only as all he wants is to play.

23 May 2016 17:08:41
if he wants to play then he would not be "staying" at a club that does not want him, let's see what kind of advice/ help his new agent brings him.

23 May 2016 17:56:45
Cheers king Kenny mate.

23 May 2016 18:24:18
We need first team quality gk lb defensively minded mid and a winger with pace i don't care what theyr names are aslong as theyr hungry and willing to work for klopp.

23 May 2016 17:01:43
How many times has a player said this just before move? Ancelotti has more or less said he has no plans for the lad, so let's see how this pans out. Sounds like a move is more likely than not, although maybe not to us. If we do go in for him, maybe this is just his new agent putting some distance between him and Kopp to try and avoid tapping up accusations as the club is under the spotlight thanks to Stevie G and it looks like this same scenario has possibly scuppered a Zielinski deal.

Let's see how it plays out.

23 May 2016 15:19:39
BILD reporting Gotze as quoted saying he plans to stay put next season and see out his contract.

vrcomp
Y. N. W. A.

23 May 2016 15:41:49
what they say and what they do are 2 different things, barring in mind he has pissed Bayern off, I don't think he will be a Bayern player come august.

23 May 2016 16:11:26
The best thing for a player to do if he wants to harden and strengthen his bargaining position during negotiations or talks is to say he is very happy where he is and he is not going anywhere. So, voila. It's all part of an orchestration. The public quotes from Beckenbauer and Low are part of it.

{Ed002's Note - Beckenbauer is very unhappy with him, as are Bayern. It is not part of some game.}

23 May 2016 16:33:28
I wasn't implying it was a game, Ed002. I was just saying that there is probably a whole lot more going on behind the scenes than what is reported by the Press or visible in any shape or form. I'm not from the footballing business so I have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, but I know manoevering when I see it. Saying he is staying put with a team that doesn't want him, firing his agent, while two teams (i guess) are trying to buy his services, seems convoluted and contrived.

23 May 2016 15:19:39
BILD reporting Gotze as quoted saying he plans to stay put next season and see out his contract.

vrcomp
Y. N. W. A.

23 May 2016 12:56:13
Looking at Van Gaal's history and experience, can it be a good idea getting him as a DoF if needed?, who do you think will replace ian?

23 May 2016 15:26:56
You do get that there is a little bit of a dislike between Man Utd and Liverpool, right?

23 May 2016 15:54:59
No thanks. Kloppo doesn't need any interference.

23 May 2016 15:57:52
Honestly, after seeing what he's done at man utd ( rivals aside) how could you want him anywhere near our club!?

23 May 2016 16:15:42
Klopp and Van Gaal working together would be like trying to mix oil and water. It will never happen. Unless there are sudden changes in atomic, nuclear and quantum physics.

23 May 2016 17:28:47
That would be like having Jose Mourinho as manager and Zlatan Ibrahimovic as assistant.

23 May 2016 17:47:26
Is this a serious question?

23 May 2016 14:51:55
Gotze staying at Bayern according to reports.

23 May 2016 14:41:03
Think it was the telegraph apparently quoting Gotze as saying he is focusing his attention on bayern!?! Looking forward to first training with ancelotti?

23 May 2016 14:49:57
Coutinho said something similar before he came here. Delph said something like that before he snaked off to City.

23 May 2016 15:19:22
Dosent make sense for him to stay. Still don't see him getting into the first 11. Bad move on gotze if he stays.

23 May 2016 17:16:55
Haha i like that little dig at delph snaking off to city, what's happened to him btw is he still a footballer?

23 May 2016 14:17:46
If Goetze does sign are the club not in serious trouble for"tapping him up"?

{Ed002's Note - There has been no complaint.}

23 May 2016 14:43:31
If Bayern want to let him go anyway, then you can't imagine them running off complaining to UEFA if Liverpool can help them get rid.

23 May 2016 14:02:56
How are we able to sign Karius now in May? What's going on with these transfer windows? Hummels signs 5 year deal with Munich.

Am I weeks behind everyone else, am I stuck in Groundhog May and everyone else enjoying life in June?

{Ed002's Note - LIverpool cannot sign Karius until the Window opens. Bayern Munich can process the Hummels transfer now.}

23 May 2016 13:22:10
Fun fact - Hendo was out injured as much as Sturridge this season (52% of the season) . How come fans think he's still meant to have been at the top of his game for 90 mins every match, but Sturridge deserves to gets managed, rested and protected to get the best out of him? I like Hendo, he hasn't impressed massively this season but I think it's fairly clear that he's had some injury concerns!

23 May 2016 13:58:47
I like Hendo too, sure he is never going to be the most stylish of players but we can't have a team of Coutinhos, need players who will do the dirty work and more. Hendo also showed he is more than capable of getting a good few goals and his passing is excellent. Just because he doesn't look as classy as Alonso or Gerrard when he plays long balls doesn't make them any less effective.

23 May 2016 13:00:42
based on what I've gathered our likely signings include:

Zielenski, Rafa silva, hector/ chill wall and potentially goetze (plus grujic and matip)

Wondered if anyone knew if any of these were good at set pieces? As think delivery for set pieces and free kick attempts are near enough non existent, whilst this can be a difference between a boring draw and a boring win.

23 May 2016 09:18:24
Just a quick question with regards to Sakho's upcoming ban etc.

Out of interest if he is banned for 6 months for example, do the club still have to pay his wages for that time, or due to the nature of what has happened does he get suspended form playing without pay?

Not implying anything, just settling a debate we were all having yesterday.

{Ed002's Note - He will get wages but no bonuses.}

23 May 2016 17:39:19
Hi EDs

Any idea when will UEFA announce how long Sakho ban will be.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - The date of the ghearing has yet to be announced, but LIverpool are back in front of UEFA for the latest charges on July 21.}

23 May 2016 08:04:07
Just heard that Barcelona might be in for Goetze.

Apparently, Messi is a big fan, and whatever Leo wants, Leo Goetze.

Special shout out to all you Lethal Weapon fans out there - big hugs!

23 May 2016 09:30:19
Why would messi want someone who plays in the position he occupies now in Barca?

23 May 2016 09:49:18
Pretty sure it's a joke mate.

23 May 2016 10:53:03
Honestly some people have no sense of humour. Made me laugh anyways Zeddicus.

23 May 2016 11:28:01
Lol snap!

23 May 2016 11:41:39
I'm glad I made a couple chuckle! It is silly season after all!

To be fair to Lee, Jim, I'm not sure that even his parents are old enough to remember Lethal Weapon, lol!

23 May 2016 12:52:11
Whilst the joke was good ( how anyone doesn't understand it U don't know) what exactly is lethal weapon?

23 May 2016 13:15:07
Leo and biscuits "butters", the phone call scene in Lethal Weapon 4. Still has me in stitches every time I watch it.

23 May 2016 14:13:37
Aww Reet! I forget you are also still in mid-teens!

Google it - a great film franchise starring Mel Gibson and Danny Glover, plus the irrepressible Joe Pesci as Leo Getz - tag line "What Leo wants, Leo Getz"!

Watch it! Once you turn 18, of course ;)

23 May 2016 17:29:41
Leo Goetze? We should sign him for sure!

23 May 2016 03:38:34
rumours swirling as regards to steven gerrard possibly cutting short his American dream to return to Liverpool in a coaching role, big mistake if this was to happen the last thing klopp needs is to have his authority undermined, plus if it goes wrong for jurgen we would have hysterical fans calling for gerrard to become the manager, he has left the club and personally I think it should stay that way, his influence around melwood is not always a positive thing, we have a crucial season coming up we don't need steven gerrard anywhere near it, punditry would be a better gig for him imo.

23 May 2016 06:25:31
how does having stevie around undermine klopp's authority? but yea some more time away from stevie is fine by me too!

23 May 2016 06:58:38
I don't see Klopp as the kind of manager to have his authority eroded by any player.

However, the bigger issue is that were Gerrard to return to the club (I think in ANY capacity) the club will likely face sanctions as a result of Gerrard admitting to tapping up players at the club's behest during his time here. Ed002 summarised this some time back but cannot find the post right now to back it up.

23 May 2016 07:24:15
But most people want Kolo as a coach?

I don't get the double standards.

{Ed001's Note - how is it double standards? This isn't a failed drugs test, a one off issue, serious as that was. Gerrard was with the club for many years, so it is about the influence he wielded while there and how damaging it was. Toure has not been a damaging influence while at the club. I do understand your point, but who better to teach people than someone who has made a mistake and learnt from it? Gerrard made mistakes, but has never shown any remorse or signs of learning from them. If he had, then everyone would be desperate to have him back, as he was such a symbol of the club for so many years.}

23 May 2016 07:47:16
thanks for summing up what I was trying to say in my post ed, I just feel it would to much of a media circus if we had gerrard back in any capacity, also has he any coaching badges? is he qualified for the role, kolo has been nothing short of a positive influence for Liverpool, hence the call for him to not only coach but also for him to be retained as a player.

{Ed001's Note - has Kolo got his badges? I am not sure off the top of my head, but I do know Gerrard has been working on his.}

23 May 2016 07:50:08
Ok I was coming at it from the 'coaching' point of view rather than the 'mentoring' point you make.
I don't see either of them as world class coaches. I want the best coaches, not former players who have lost their legs and want a wage.
If Kolo/ Gerrard are good enough as players then give them a player's contract, if not then let them go.
I'm worried about sentiment taking over ruthless decision making that's all.
I'm not advocating either of them coming in as coaches.

{Ed001's Note - got you mate, but a coach has to be a mentor as well, the best coaches mentor and guide, not tell. I think there is room for the Kolo and Gerrard, if they are the right kind of person. The issue is not about sentiment, it is whether they are the right fit, which sadly I don't think Gerrard is right now. Hopefully being away from Liverpool will give him a fresh perspective and he will become one. Toure, on the other hand, I am not sure on, everything I am told is positive, but I don't know for myself how true it is. I would keep him as a positive influence because of our shortage of experienced players, rather than to coach.}

23 May 2016 08:07:53
Cheers Ed.
On the Kolo thing, as far as I'm aware, he is the only current player who has come out and commented on Sakho's drug taking and he backed him.
Given his history, this was a major PR cock-up and I'm surprised people have missed that. Backing drug cheats publically is not a smart move IMO.

{Ed001's Note - I have not seen that, but it does depend on what he said and the context of it. I would think it is likely he was approached because of his past. If he has said something along the lines of Sakho has made a mistake which he will learn from, then fine. If he has backed him by trying to claim Sakho was innocent, then he should be gagged from ever talking to the media again!}

23 May 2016 08:16:29
All he said was that he hadn't spoken to Sakho but he knew how difficult it was, and Sakho knows what Toure thinks of him (which I assume is that he's still a good guy) . Hardly coming out in support.

23 May 2016 08:18:03
To be honest the actual quotes are not that bad and you're correct about the context.

As an aside, Sakho's provisional ban ends on Friday I think. It's a bit odd that UEFA haven't even set a date for his hearing when the provisional ban is about to end isn't it?

{Ed001's Note - the season is over, he is not going to the Euros, so there is no need to have a ban in place currently.}

23 May 2016 09:38:21
I think it is a huge mistake getting Gerrard back as a coach. His time is gone now and I think as a club, we should move on.

23 May 2016 10:24:15
Perhaps Gerrard will help Rodgers out at Celtic. Put some shorts on and be the number 2.

23 May 2016 11:25:08
For me there's nobody better to learn off from football ability terns . Gerrard can teach some of younger players and is a leader.

23 May 2016 11:27:30
i think gerrard done a lot for the club and did inspire a lot of players while he was playing here, even some fans like myself was made up when he played for us, as i knew he could win a game for us, also a lot of players would rather play for gerrard than kolo, i have not thought about gerrard coming back as a coach but i think as a player last season he could have helped us in the 2 finals, especially the one in Basel, we never had any leaders on the field and kolo played so he is not a leader where as gerrard was, i also think he would not step on klopps toes because klopp has a big personality, but hey its great the way you lot are turning on him after what he won for us, it was his header that started the come back in istanbul, not kolos.

23 May 2016 14:37:53
The comeback in instanbul had more to do with rafa bringing on hamman and also milan no doubt thinking it was game over at half- time, there were many heroic displays that night, not least dudek's miraculous save that defies logic, he did do a lot for the club, you are right, but just because some supporters can see that not everything he did was positive, does not mean they did not value his efforts on the pitch, it also does not mean that gerrard can come back to lfc whenever he feels like it, as for kolo he has something most Liverpool players don't have, a premiership winners medal, something gerrard could have had if he could have kept his emotions in check, his leadership skills were sadly lacking when it came to the crunch, if he had kept calm he would have got his rewards.

23 May 2016 11:04:28
It opens the door for klopp to have a bad run and all the Liverpool fans to start screaming for Gerrard to take over because he knows the Liverpool way.

Leave him be. The best coaches are the ones who didn't make it as a tip top player. They have more understanding of the game because instead if playing it they watch and watch and watch also they ditn undermine players by moaning about them not being abit to spray a 50 yard ball like they can. Like hoddle.

Let Gerrard spend the next 10 years working his way through the coachcing ladder and then if he's (without being Gerrard) got the merit to manage a top 4 club then bring hum in.

If he is briugh bakc it will also not give hum the hunger to succeed as much because again he's already made jt. Liverpool won't sack once he's on board.

Reject hjm give him that desire ti prove us wrong and hopefully wr can pick him up in a few years.

Zidane I a now another example of why ate can't be on the bench every week because if it goes bad he will be clambered for to be the manager.