Liverpool Banter Archive November 23 2015

23 Nov 2015 19:41:06
What's does everyone make of klopps assessment of firmino as a striker who sometimes plays in midfield and not a midfielder who sometimes plays as a striker.

23 Nov 2015 20:04:28
It wasn't an assessment of the player, Those were his instructions to Firmino for this specific game.

23 Nov 2015 20:32:18
Semantics.

Football is football, intelligent players can adapt their game to different role.

24 Nov 2015 00:18:14
He's played false 9 and no.10 before, and then every so often on the wing, and capable in all 3 positions depending on what you're looking for in terms of strategy (obviously perfect for high press and counters rather than crosses into the box) . I still see him more naturally as a no.10 though.

Having said that, Klopp played Lewandowski as a no.10 for a while to teach him how to be a striker so perhaps he really does see him converting to that mould.

Personally was surprised he wasn't used before as a striker when our forwards were injured, have always seen him as a possibility there, especially after seeing him and Coutinho play exactly this setup for Brazil a while back and their link play was obvious then too.

24 Nov 2015 07:52:28
I am not sure his finishing is good enough to play as a striker at the moment although it can improve of course as it improved with couts.

24 Nov 2015 09:23:54
Klopps as u know is a master of motivation. he is good at telling people with pictures and analogies what he wanted. he wants firmino to see himself as a real striker not some part time striker. i remember ronaldo was once a winger at man united until he receive some kinda mental training that ask him to picture himself scoring goals from all angles.

23 Nov 2015 16:16:35
Hey ed001, just curious what your thoughts were on Steve Nicol as a player. Never got to see him play and he's clearly Liverpool through and through. Seems to be one of the legends less talked about.

Just asking because the espnfc team always ask him things Liverpool related. They asked him about the team of the week and why lukaku was in ahead of Firmino.

They chattered on about statistics and what not. And he responded, quite hilariously, if Lukaku is that good, why is he playing for Everton?

Got a good laugh out of that.

{Ed001's Note - I loved Nicol as a player, he could play almost everywhere and look like it was his natural position. He may not have got the glory, but he was one of the most vital players at Liverpool. Couldn't half neck a pint down as well! Very underrated player, would walk into almost any team in the world on his day.}

23 Nov 2015 17:08:00
Was a good solid gutsy player. Could play anywhere across the back line and also lend a hand in midfield. He was Mr Reliable.

23 Nov 2015 20:32:57
Footballer of the year as a defender.

Pretty rare.

23 Nov 2015 21:04:46
Loved Nicol as you say could make any position look like he played there all his career. A player that versatile and good who playing in today's game would be worth a huge amount of money.

23 Nov 2015 21:16:59
remember him scoring hat-trick v Newcastle away

always ran with his thumbs up

quality, quality player.

23 Nov 2015 22:12:58
I remember that Newcastle game very well. I think he was playing RM that day but he could play anywhere you put him. What price would you put on him in today's market.

23 Nov 2015 22:41:23
Anyone remember his header against arsenal at Highbury? Think it might have been the first game of the season. We were wearing the grey candy strip that year.

23 Nov 2015 22:59:40
One of my list of unsung heroes - Chris Lawler, Ray Kennedy, Terry Mac, Ronnie Whelan all on the list too.

24 Nov 2015 07:56:32
I f***ing love Stevie Nicol on ESPNFC, his Liverpool bias shows and he has no shame. His bias manifestation seems to have intensified in the last couple of years.

24 Nov 2015 12:46:18
for me stevie nicol was one of those players who never got the credit he deserved, he was a great defender plus he scored a lot of goals, plus i think he had big feet lol :) )

23 Nov 2015 14:58:13
After the last game, I wouldn't change a thing! A lot of people are clamoring for Benteke and/or Sturridge to come in, instead of Firmino, but I simply don't see the need. Firmino's impact on the game, as well as that of Lallana and Coutinho, in harrasing and closing down the opposing back four's efforts to move the ball forward, has been mostly underesimated. Every time a ManC player from the back four tried a second touch on the ball, one of those three was within a few feet and forcing them into a mistake or a long, inaccurate, hurried pass. This gegenpressing in the first 15 minutes, set the tone for the entire game and ManC never fully recovered. People are too obssessed with labels, ie. "striker" when the role a player plays is far more important. Is Firmino a striker? No. Was he influential in all 4 goals that were scored? Obviously, Yes. So why do we care if we have a striker playing or not, if the set up of those three (Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana) allows us to completely counter and upset the opposition's plans, and get a generaly unexpected victory out of it? Do we really care who is doing the goal scoring as long as we score and win? Would Sturridge or Benteke do the same amount of pressing Firmino was so effective in doing? Benteke is simply not agile enough and too slow for it. Sturridge simply doesn't like to do it, based on what I have seen the previous seasons. Of course, every team has to be addressed tactically and differently, every week. But for me, Firmino should be starting every week and Benteke and Sturridge shold be brought in whenever the tactical need requires it. Not to overdo it, but I think this last game was like "the shot that was heard throughout the league" in the same manner that we beat Arsenal at home 2 seasons ago. Within 20-30 minutes the game was pretty much over, and that game set the tone for the rest of the season. I would replace Milner with Henderson, and place the 11 that started against ManC as the base for the rest of the season, while changing individual players according to form, injuries and suspensions. I was one of those who wrote that we would not climb beyond 5th or 6th this season. But the way those three in front played the game showed me how not only how they could score goals, but also how our defensive deficiencies in both midfield and the back four were lessened.

23 Nov 2015 15:19:47
Literally agree with every word. Hendo in for Milner, Sakho in for Lovren. Job done.

23 Nov 2015 15:53:09
I agree that they played very well in a counter-attacking capacity, but I don't know if that would have been the team I'd select if I was looking to break down a team. But you need all sorts of options to win a title. The core of the squad in place is extremely solid, you've just got to have a few interchangeable parts, and we definitely do. Fantastic performance from Firmino, Coutinho is on PotY form right now and Can played his best game in a red shirt. There is a lot to be proud of about Saturday's performance, but we can't get ahead of ourselves. Sure feels good though!

23 Nov 2015 17:34:27
Ra is right. Why should Benteke or Studge especially, just walk into the team? What has he done to earn that right? We are winning and scoring goals so until the opponents and or tactics dictate otherwise, he and or Benteke should just sit tight and encourage the team.

23 Nov 2015 17:38:31
Against most other teams they won't have a problem with kicking it long, sitting back, crouding out the space. As well as it works against teams that press, it won't work as well against teams that play to hit us on the break, we will need a striker to score more. Firmino stays in in my eyes though, just games where we expect to be on top, benteke or Sturridge up front.

23 Nov 2015 18:26:56
Agree and disagree. You have to be willing to adapt to what is in front of you - there's no point in a team set to rush and counterattack an opposition who is perfectly happy to sit there for the draw or try and nick a win. I'm happy with whatever and whoever Klopp selects for the job at hand - winning a game will not always be the same tactic.

23 Nov 2015 21:22:37
I would say our issues will come at home where playing counter attack will be more difficult.

24 Nov 2015 03:40:10
Agree 100% Agger, it's our ability to break down a packed defence with the opposition placing 10 players behind the ball that will define our season. That's why we need other options when Coutinho/Firmino are struggling to create space for a break through the middle.

Benteke will be invaluable in situations where we have to play with more width to stretch the defence (eg a 4-3-3 with Firmino/Benteke/Ibe upfront), and someone to feed off the resulting crosses.

Alternatively we could play 2 upfront with Benteke/Sturridge who would complement each others styles nicely.

23 Nov 2015 23:30:00
Great post. Very much agree.

I'm also curious about this point, I've seen a few times argued on here, about how people would not have gone with the same XI, if we were playing a team that would fall back and concede possession-- the assumption is that Firmino/Coutinho/Lallana wouldn't be able to break down a defense that has dropped deep. Instead, you go with Benteke or Sturridge.

I actually think this has it backwards. It is precisely the darting runs, creative movement, flick ons, through balls, and technical link-up play we saw between Firmino/Coutinho/Lallana, and to a lesser extent Can, that is necessary to break down defenses, including those that drop deep and concede possession.

The problem we had under Rodgers was that we would pass the ball around the box pointlessly, with nobody making such creative runs or darting through with pace, and eventually we would hoof a bad long ball or cross into the box, which would be cleared easily.

I could see Benteke's strength in the air being a nice option to call on in different circumstances, as a way of keeping teams guessing and mixing things up, but otherwise, this would be my Starting XI, with Hendo in for Milner, Sakho for Lovren.

24 Nov 2015 12:27:31
I disagree with adapting. Focus on being so good at your own game that the opposition have to adapt. Do you think Barcelona ever adapt based on opposition? Do they heck. Same players, same tactics, same formation. They're just so good at it its near impossible to stop.

Coutinho, Firmino and Lallana have a near telepathic chemistry. Why change that?

24 Nov 2015 13:07:41
ra1969, i can't disa gree with you, also it was the same team that beat chelsea so klopp knows what he needs for certain games, against the top teams he plays the top 3 because they have the agility and speed to close down the defenders when we are pressing high up the field, as you say benteke is not agile enough or he is not quick enough also, again he will use this team when we play the top teams away from home, klopp knows what he is doing and he is getting the best out of our players so long may it continue, its great the way he has got his tactics across so quickly and the players seem to be taking them on board just as quick, i have just watched natch of the day which i recireded and i think countino has put some muscle on in his legs, so the players have not just got better but they have put muscle on making the stonger in the challange nad it will be harder for them to get knocked of the ball,

again i will say it, i feel we will go on a winning run of games now that we have started winning games, and because of this we will have a chance of not just finishing in the top 4 but we could win the prem and another cup, so a double or maybe a treble could be on the cards, but for this to happen we have to first go on a winning streak then we will need luck, because our last game showed we have the pglayers and tactics and manager to win the prem so with a bit/lot of luck we could win the prem /europa or even the treble, it would be worth a £1 or £2 bet on it, just out of interest, our next game will show us how we are going to play for the rest of the season if we win it and perform the same a we did against man city then the other top teams better get out of our way, i'm now looking forward to our games something i lost when BR was our manager also what strikes me is the way klopp is smiling all the time, its infectious because after a game when he goes to our players they end up smiling giving them a fell good factor where as BR's smile was creepy lol ;)

24 Nov 2015 13:40:39
EMS - yes, Barcelona do adapt. Every single game. Every top team adapts; I'm not taking about big sweeping changes but they do change game on game. That's why you do things like opposition analysis - why would you bother if you weren't planning on adapting to it?

23 Nov 2015 13:51:34
Henderson fully fit, does he come in for can or Milner? He's always been athletic so could do well there, can cross the ball well too. If he goes in the middle, could mean drolling firmino to cam, lallana to the right and bringing in benteke or Sturridge, we will need an out and out striker in games where the opposition sit back and don't get countered as easily as Saturday.

23 Nov 2015 14:02:14
He is coming after a long-ish injury lay-off and I think we need to ease him back into action. Once fit, he probably will take Emre Can's place in the squad.

23 Nov 2015 14:39:14
Sorry I should have said when Henderson is fully fit.

23 Nov 2015 15:03:38
Henderson for Can and let him challenge for a starting spot. He's played really well the last few games but Hendo has a better passing range, creates more assists, has greater mobility in defence and doesn't give the ball away as often.

I don't see why we'd need Hendo in the attacking mids with Coutinho, Firmino, Llalana, Milner and Ibe available there.

23 Nov 2015 15:28:20
The natural answer is Can, but on current form it's Milner.

23 Nov 2015 16:29:39
Can is a very good player and gives our midfield a lot of power something we have lacked in the past, more than deserves a place in the team. He is growing all the time into a position he is learning again, he was excellent against City.

23 Nov 2015 17:41:26
Milner for me. He was average vs City along with Clyne.

23 Nov 2015 18:01:58
Milner was very good against City probably his best game in a red shirt, obviously keeping Henderson out of the side when fit is a different matter but we don't need to rush players back and risk them as we have a fairly decent size squad, it will be great to see Rossitier back this week as well.

23 Nov 2015 18:40:20
If we take off Milner, where would you fit in Henderson? Milner plays right midfield and I don't want Henderson being there. Klopp likes the 4-2-3-1 system and only changes it depending on how we are doing later in the game.

23 Nov 2015 18:41:21
Obviously just a guess but I think Klopp will rotate Henderson, Can and Milner for the two midfield spots either side of Lucas. At the moment Allen is the backup for Lucas but Klopp doesn't appear to be convinced by his ability. I suspect that's one of the positions he is looking to bring in a player.

We shall soon see as I think Lucas is now suspended isn't he?

23 Nov 2015 21:01:28
For Swansea he is.

23 Nov 2015 20:52:06
Milner was probably our weakest MF against City.

I'd say he comes out for Hendo.

Can has to work on consistency, but his link up play with Firmino/Coutinho was great-- far better than anything we've seen from Milner.

I also think Hendo will link up great with Firmino/Coutino.

23 Nov 2015 20:54:07
PS I should also say, Milner may have may the most perfectly timed through ball in the entire game against City, though Aguero couldn't pull the trigger on Milner's beautiful lay in for him.

24 Nov 2015 07:46:41
Mighty Red - shouldn't the fact that even in a game where you consider Milner as having been 'very good' he still managed to slip in that pass? What good did he actually do to justify ignoring a slip like that?

24 Nov 2015 23:42:37
Milner was poor and I was not the only one to see it. His dumb back pass almost cost us a goal. I would understand if a rookie did it. However, many of his apologists hail his experience, professionalism and work ethic, should be shocked by his blatant tactical and schoolboy error.

I wasn't. He can't pass, can't tackle and too slow. To crown it all, makes double than several players in the squad who are better than him. Go figure.

23 Nov 2015 12:28:40
Hello eds. Great great win the weekend. Can I just ask if any of the ends can tell me the sich with Sinclair, I've tried search engine, the last I heard of the kid was he wasn't signing any new deal and wanted out, is still the case or has this changed since then?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has charged at the moment.}

23 Nov 2015 16:16:31
Have you checked the fuse box ed? 😉.

23 Nov 2015 16:40:35
He's got electric pace.

23 Nov 2015 11:48:17
Stick or twist for next game vs Swansea? Meaning can you see Studge or benteke playing. loved the movement of the front 3 against city.

23 Nov 2015 12:29:51
I reckon benny will start on Thursday with studge possibly coming on in second half. Then where allowable we'll keep same team for Swansea.

23 Nov 2015 12:58:20
Many thought we needed Ben And or Studge or we're screwed. Now, they seem to now be luxury players at the moment. The beauty of having a competent manager is palpable.

23 Nov 2015 12:59:51
I'd stick to give the midfield more bodies as Lucas is suspended.

23 Nov 2015 12:48:20
Absolute no reason to change the team against Swansea unless its an injury. The front three won the game for us.

23 Nov 2015 13:49:09
There is a game midweek and I think the weekend's team selection will be based on how we get along midweek against Bordeaux.

23 Nov 2015 15:05:20
Lucas is suspended, Henderson is still coming back from injury (might come on later in the game) . Allen played well in the win against Rubin and unless he is injured against Bordeaux will probably play in the middle where Lucas has played under Klopp.

The only other potential change is Benteke in for one of the front three. I have a sneaking suspicion that we might see Enrique for the first time in a long time vs. Bordeaux.

Moreno has played a lot, Enrique trained over the break for the first time under Klopp and played the midweek u21 game vs. Benfica.

23 Nov 2015 17:38:22
I thought Enrique didn't make the Europa League squad?

23 Nov 2015 17:53:58
Allen is not a DM so why is he playing there? I say, play Milner at DM along with Can and Ibe wide.

23 Nov 2015 18:43:49
Enrique is not part of the Europa League squad currently.

24 Nov 2015 07:10:58
He's the official team social media secretary.

23 Nov 2015 10:18:58
Hi Eds, i just came across a middle eastern young footballer by the name of Omar Abdulrahman. The youtube is amazing. have you heard of this young talent in anyway?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, he is very well known. Why are you asking on the Liverpool page?}

23 Nov 2015 10:43:59
He's been around for ages. Not that young is he? Got a twin brother aswel.

Looks a really techinak cm. I'm sure arsenal were interest a while back.

{Ed001's Note - he has two brothers, I don't believe either are twins. He is unlikely to go anywhere without UAE connections, due to the fact that his entire family get UAE citizenship on the back of his ability. He is actually from Yemen. Plus he is very much a show pony, great skills but very little end product.}

23 Nov 2015 11:26:24
he is not that amazing at all. I have watched him live numerous times. Not only that, he is very lazy and also the level of football he is playing at is similar to league 1 or even lower than that. want to see something really amazing youtube the best skills and goals of a player called Shikabala or Youssef Msakni.

23 Nov 2015 11:59:12
Hi eds, bcos as u have guess, i will follow up by asking "any interest from Liverpool? " Sorry for beating around the bush.

{Ed001's Note - then you would be wasting our time asking about randomers that are well known to not be going anywhere near us.}

23 Nov 2015 13:53:31
He had a trial at Man City and there were strong rumors he might sign for them a while back but nothing came off it. He is doing very well in the UAE league and is a top assist-er for his team but I am not so sure he is suitable for the PLs pace, intensity and physical nature.

I wouldn't call the UAE Pro League League 1 standard as it is never that easy to compare the leagues. UAE do have one of the most professional leagues in Asia and I think most of Asia remains an untapped market.

{Ed001's Note - there were rumours but no substance to him as there was not a chance of him signing for him once they took a look at him mate. They are pretty much the only team that he would be allowed to sign for and keep the visas. Oh and he is pretty much the only star in the UAE league, which is terrible, crowds are League 2 levels. It is a strange league, with the sheikhs owning the teams paying for pretty much everything. Not sure it is all that professional as you suggest though, it is playground stuff and they refuse to allow non-Emiratis in their academies, so the youth teams are embarrassingly bad.}

23 Nov 2015 15:06:09
His visa status I have no idea about Ed002, but professional in the sense that when you look at some of the other Asian leagues, this one is a country mile ahead of others and only behind the K-League, A League, Chinese, Japanese, Iranian, and perhaps the Qatari league. I don't know a lot about the specifics about the league itself mate such as the youth academies etc but I think it's a really difficult place to judge players.

Lanzini at West Ham was playing in UAE last seoson and did okay, but is now doing very well in the PL as an example. Better scouting could unearth gems like Lanzini I think.

{Ed002's Note - Lanzini was very well known and was not scouted from the UAE league - Lazio and Roma had made their interest known two years ago.}

23 Nov 2015 09:41:19
I was really pleased for Skrtel when he smashed that goal in on Saturday. Ok, it's not really what he's in the team for but all defenders like to bag the occasional goal, and it's important that they do so, especially a cracker like that. Skrtel has been hammered by a lot of supporters over a long period of time and has some high-profile detractors in this forum, but I think some of it is unfair. OK, he's not the best in the business or the best we've ever had and he was culpable in the passage of poor play that led to City's goal on Saturday but I'd say he has been our most reliable centre back for a number of years now. What he may lack in communication and reading of the game, he makes up for with spirit, battling and good old-fashioned no-nonsense defending. I would certainly rate him above any other centre back we've had at the club since Carragher and Hyppia, although I do rate Sakho highly and expect him to become our defensive rock if he can avoid frequent injury lay-offs. Skrtel is now on his fifth Liverpool manager. He's had at least the same number of centre-half partners, often changing from one match to the next and countless different full-back combinations either side of him. He's not always had the best of midfield cover in front of him either and, whilst I don't think Mignolet is the disaster that a lot of people make him out to be, he's not one of those keepers that really bosses the back four and breeds real confidence in the defenders.

23 Nov 2015 10:00:48
I am not sure who started it, but this page has always criticized Skrtel. They bring up small small minute defects in him and blame the entire problem on his shoulder.
He is not a world class defender and he has never claimed to be one. But he does the job and survived 5 managers in the past 7 years at the club.

He is better than Cahil

Better than Per Mertesacker

Better than Demichelis

Better than Phil Johnes

All the above players are from top 4 clubs.

Blaming him for the goal conceded, what was Lucas doing to stop Aguero?

Ironically Klopp Favors Skrtel.

Brilliant post mate.

23 Nov 2015 10:48:20
Sorry mate but you said it yourself - he lacks in communication and reading of the game. Spirit doesn't make up for that - his lack of comms, and his lack of positional sense, costs us both goals and games and the bottom line is that there is no way to cover that with spirit. A great last ditch tackle can't compensate for not doing the simple stuff consistently.

23 Nov 2015 12:07:41
Yeah i was impressed by mignolet doing the sweeper role. It shows he is alert to situation.

23 Nov 2015 12:33:23
Skrtel is not better than Gary Cahill.

But yep, always gets bashed on here but always gets picked by the managers whilst the other defensive player has changed. Funny that?

23 Nov 2015 13:05:50
You can say 'he's survived, he's outlasted etc'.

Another phrasing would be 'he's the common denominator to a lot of long standing defensive issues'.

The reason Skrtel has survived so long has been Agger's injuries, Sakho being out of favour and Lovren's deficiencies meaning that backing up or replacing him has never been a high enough priority. But he's still a weakness in the line.

23 Nov 2015 13:10:48
Hijkle's post is spot on. The fact that he survived however many managers means absolutely nothing because his issues and flaws even after that period, still remain so what does that tell you. Last ditch tackles only means you were out of position to begin with so how is that a quality? Even Carra who played with him for years couldn't stand him as a CB partner. I agree he has improved under Klopp which makes Klopp a miracle worker in itself but don't fool urselves.

23 Nov 2015 13:19:40
Klopp favours skrtel. OVER WHO!? Lovren has been injured and just came back, now Sakho's out, BR got rid of Wisdom, Kelly, Coates (probably helped Carra retire early too) and Ilori, Gomez is injured and Toure (just came back? ) Skrtel has no real competition, as long as he stays fit and other injure themselves. We will see where Skrtel is in 2 years as to whether Klopp favours him.

Ed001 has pointed out to you god knows how many times the reason Skrtel gets a lot of stick.

Sorry but there is no ''favouring'' going on, he has had no choice but to play him really.

23 Nov 2015 14:56:02
Bob

Skrtel paired with Sakho when Lovren was fit and fine sitting on the bench and that would continue through out.

Klopp preferes Skrtel as the RCB.

Why should he wait two mroe years, He is 30+ and has been playing for the cliub from 7 years.
This is his last contract imo.

23 Nov 2015 18:27:09
He paired best with Agger, and a few seasons ago they were rated as the best defenive partnership in the league. They clicked, but he hasn't done so well with other pairings.

I'd go so far as to say a big part of Lovren's struggles last season because of Skrtel although we were just so poor going backwards it can't solely be that - BR was naive in defensive.

I was surprised the club negotiated on his new contract; I hope Illori get's his chance come January. I think Klopp is the kind of manager to bring him on. Back to Skrts - he is nearing the latter stages of his career, the club has to be looking to long term solutions.

Subotic?

23 Nov 2015 20:13:21
Lovren was out for a montha from mid september and missed 7 games. Even then I'm not sure Lovren replaces Skrtel. As I don' think either have shown themselves over the last year or so to be reliable. Lovren is a left CB too. You can' really say Klopp prefers any one he's been in charge for about 5 games of which he's rotated the squad in Europe and been forced to play Skrtel as we have no other right centre back.

Like I say we will see where Skrtel is in 2 years. I;m saying 2 years, as I;m expecting that's the point when Klopp will have built the squad HE wants and he PREFERS.

23 Nov 2015 07:28:40
Hi all,
Been a while since I posted but read every day, it's a great read (most of the time) . I was reading further down and saw someone mention Lucas missing next game . It never dawned on me until now but when JK brought Kolo on do you think that could be to see if he can play in that position as cover for next weekend? I noticed he played along side Lucas and he used to play in midfield many moons ago . Thanks for any feed back
Jamesee.

23 Nov 2015 07:42:35
I'd be surprised if that was the case. Kolo is just not mobile enough. He'd surely go with Joe Allen first? How far away is Rossiter? I'd personally have a look at Cameron Brannagan first. I know he's been training at Melwood lately, maybe Ed002 would have an opinion or a more "in the know" poster?

{Ed001's Note - Kolo is much more mobile than Allen, so that makes little sense as a reasoning to use him instead of Kolo. Branagan is not a holding midfielder, it would be Chirivella for that role from the youth teams.}

23 Nov 2015 08:48:21
Ah that's right, I've heard chirivella mentioned as a holding mid. Not sure if I agree on kolo being more mobile than Allen, maybe a few years ago? Just my opinion.

23 Nov 2015 09:53:36
It will make us more ckesr kf what's going to happen under klopp next weekend.

If he is going to do what he did under Dortmund then pedro will play.

If he still isn't confident enough in the academy then it will be Allen shoehorned jnto that posution.

23 Nov 2015 07:58:42
I wouldn't be surprised to see Allen occupying that position next Sunday. We don't have another DM and we never bought one in the summer. People wanted Can to take up that role.

23 Nov 2015 09:48:34
I don't think Chirivella is anywhere near ready to play regular football for the 1st team. He doesn't even stand out when playing for the u-21s. At least a couple of years away from being ready. He needs to grow a lot for that to happen. Rossiter is more ready for that role.

23 Nov 2015 12:07:15
There is this player I remember called Henderson? I could see him starting instead of Lucas. May leave us vulnerable but I would trust Klopp in what ever team he picks to be fair.

23 Nov 2015 01:27:31
Great to see firminio showing his potential yesterday, however let's hope he doesn't only perform against lower quality teams like city!

23 Nov 2015 02:55:23
I know what you mean, people need to calm down about yesterday's performance. It's not like it was a decent club or anything, only Man City away from home. ;) heheehee.

23 Nov 2015 03:46:18
The thing that's annoying me is LFC are not getting the credit for the game!
It's grating on me so bad.
Oh city didn't turn up!
The game was fake!
They missed key players!

Liverpool out played city. End of.
we need credit where it's due, because Saturday night was an incredible feeling and game to watch.

23 Nov 2015 13:22:46
Don't really care for the ops of pathetic pundits who are only mad because we shamed their prediction on the game's outcome. We all watched the game and we all saw how City got hammered in every dept of the game.