Liverpool Banter Archive August 24 2015

24 Aug 2015 23:08:23
So everyones praising Skrtel, well, I said I was going to start acting like an uber-moron and always go against the grain, so here we go(your fault Ed001, 100% your fault :D).

Skrtel is a warrior in football. He'll put his head in where it hurts and doesn't bat an eyelid. The headband has kind of become a iconic thing for him. But he is still make the same mistakes over and over again.

I'm not saying he didn't do a lot of work today, he did very well with his tackling and with his heading, but the same mistakes are being made, 3 times I found myself saying "he should be offside. " but Skrtel was playing him onside because he dropped deeper than anyone else. He went to ground so often as well, each time he dived in, I cringed like never before. He's also pulling shirts still and making a penalty looking inevitable.

I think we were lucky today, as I firmly believe had we played an in form Arsenal, they'd have put away some of those chances they had. But then again, we could have had 3 goals today too.

25 Aug 2015 00:04:34
Skrtel was immense today, we should support our players no matter what but to criticise them after a quality performance is ridiculous.

25 Aug 2015 00:29:04
Few disagrees but I've hit agree anyway.

Credit where credit is due and Skrtel made a host of good clearances and challenges tonight.

How the majority did not see that he was permanently a yard behind the rest of the defence and from this he helped set up numerous chances for Arsenal.

Yes he was better than usual and a lot of good clearances and challenges but he was also out of position quite often and dropped too deep.

24 Aug 2015 23:56:43
Hsf- Harry scouser forever?

25 Aug 2015 00:17:15
skrtle is very good at what he does; he'll throw himself into last ditch tackles and put his head in where it hurts.
He's a defenders defender, very much in the mould of Hencho or Jamie.
But where they had Big Sami guiding them Skrtle lacks a leader to pull him into position!
We need to appreciate what he brings rather than expecting him to be the new Hansen
ynwa

25 Aug 2015 02:19:19
Spot on Sean! Who do his fan club think would have gotten the blame had Ramsey's goal been allowed? He was the reason because he drops so deep that the other defenders can't step up or have to step and leave him behind which is what happened on the goal

25 Aug 2015 09:11:55
@redohio, someone needs to scream at Skrtel to get him in line. If you are not going to mark and stop a player then do not drop so deep that you play him onside when your teammates are otherwise defending together.

He got away with that one and he got away with a few others too.

Overall he definitely had one of his better games but it has to be pointed out that he could have easily cost us a few goals as well last night.

24 Aug 2015 22:58:45
Hats off to O'Driscoll, Gary Mac and Brendan Rodgers for organising the midfield and defence. This result will serve us well when we play away. Gomes best player for Liverpool along with Coutinho and Bentenke.

Impressive performance and was worthy of three points

25 Aug 2015 02:23:47
Great job by the staff and this is the team we need to field on the road especially in the big games like Utd away next.

24 Aug 2015 22:48:04
Was wondering about our set up today. Actually I thought we for once kept our shape through most of the game, which in turn freed up the positive offensive forces at our disposal.

Is this the new coaching staff having an influence ?

24 Aug 2015 22:40:29
There must have been some work go in pre season into the defence because although it hasn't been 100% solid it just looks so much better drilled. In our 3 games to date I can only remember 3 real opportunities for the opposition to score (excluding half chances) hopfuly we can find a balance now and improve further up the field and I think we will as firmino gets match fit.

24 Aug 2015 22:32:21
happy with a point at Arsenal!
Benteke was the beast I hoped he could be.
after that 1st half; Rodgers should've swapped the ineffectual Firmino with Ings or Orig and taken advantage of Big Bens dominance.i

24 Aug 2015 23:14:13
I would like to see origi more than Ings personally. think they will get there chances in the cups and games we are 2-0, 3-0 up in. I think that is there role behind benteke and sturridge.

24 Aug 2015 22:32:00
To all those thinking we did well defensively,how did we get lucky again with a linesman decision sanchez hitting the post,Sanchez and cazorla constantly getting the ball in the box in the second half and to Giroud. I'm glad we kept a clean sheet,but that still wasn't great defending.

They cut us open on the wings time and again. especially in the second half. This is exactly the same game we saw last year when neither team looked good and gave away possession almost every other touch

24 Aug 2015 22:51:45
Wise up. Do you think you go thru a whole game without any team getting the odd oportunity. You are being overly critical on a team that has kept 3 clean sheets. A massive improvement on last seasons efforts.

24 Aug 2015 22:53:42
. and they got lucky as well that we didn't score. If you want a top 4 team, be happy when we are a top 4 team.

24 Aug 2015 22:55:11
Carragher made a cracking point that our keeper made saves he should have saved anyway and he was right.

Many of Arsenals efforts was from areas outside the box really.

Anyway, it's not comments relating how well we defended this game, it's examples on how we defended much better than last season, and judging by that performance fills me with much more optimism in comparison


As for hitting the post etc, did you see our very own Brasilian cracking the post and crossbar?

24 Aug 2015 23:00:37
That's a rediculous statement . Cut us open !! ? We let them come on to us 2nd half . We should have been out of sight in that game . Near enough a perfect away game

24 Aug 2015 23:04:14
We played arsenal who dominate the majority at home, we weren't playing some school boys

Great performance.

We limited them to the least amount of shots they could have ay the Emirates.

If we can get the balance right between defence and big Ben then we will have a great season.

Kovacic makes a lot of sense now with his pace and vision in the center.

I do fear we are playing with just bodies in the missed rather than chemistry.

No creator and no scorer could prove a problem but and I can't believe it tbh with all the moaning I was doing but benteke. Wow, absolutely love him.

Sturridge in that space he leaves OMG

That is all, finally though a game on a Saturday, this 8pm stuff is getting on my nerves.

24 Aug 2015 23:04:52
Get a grip mate. We caused them as many problems as they caused us. They're a top class team of course they'll make chances, we kept them out and could easily have won it. Coutinho hit the woodwork twice and Benteke should and would have scored but for an unbelievable save.

Get on our team.

24 Aug 2015 23:13:58
In case you missed it we hit the woodwork twice.

24 Aug 2015 23:33:53
No Irish rover. But I was hoping the referral of ''time and again'' would make you aware this wasn't an occasional thing,it happened constantly throughout the game. I do not need to ''wise up'' the team has kept 2 clean sheets with the help of 2 disallowed goals. 1 clearly should have stood.
It's better than last season agreed.(It really couldn't get worse though) but any one thinking the entire back 4 had a great game is deluding themselves. At no point was any player or team for that matter playing brilliantly,hence Cech the keeper got MOTM for 2 saves,one which he says he saw all the way and another when he simply threw his body at the ball.(both those he admitted in his own post match interview) This was not a good footballing spectacle,entertaining,but nothing of great football on show.

I stand by the statement,that Cazorla and Sanchez opened us up for fun on their left that entire second half,I believe it was fro that side they also got the wrongly disallowed goal. You can bang on about clean sheets all you want,We've been lucky with reffing decisions. I expect that luck to run out.

Btw we really should have buried that game in the 1st half

25 Aug 2015 00:33:23
someone give bobatron a hug!

25 Aug 2015 00:59:01
Bobatron i just want to say thank you.

Now I know what I sound like when I bash a 1-0 win to stoke and Bournemouth.

I'm now just going to go on the score rather then the play.

Btw stoked to get a point at the Emirates, I doubt many teams come away from there with more.

Well Done lads

25 Aug 2015 08:08:45
5ive,if we let them come to us at 1-0.then that was utterly attrocious by the manager. You don't let a team come at you for an entire half. at 0-0
It wasn't luck they didn't score we missed,it was luck that they DID score and it was illegitimately disallowed. There's a complete difference between not converting your chance,and converting your chance for it to be ruled wrongly out.People need to realise that

24 Aug 2015 22:30:57
A great point tonight.
Coutinho showed flashes of brilliance the last few seasons, but this. it's like someone's flicked the "world class" switch (apart from that first half corner).
Can's pass placement was poor but his strength and ability to break up play made up for it.

While I wasn't sure about Benteke initially, I'll hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. He looks like a key player already.

Lastly, credit where it's due. Anyone criticising "Skittles" or Lovren after that performance tonight need to get back in the fridge.

So many positives.

7 points! 3 clean sheets! :)

24 Aug 2015 22:52:56
Coutinho just lacks that pace further than 5 yards, caught by Gabriel too easy in the first half, but he is an excellent player

24 Aug 2015 22:26:16
For all the average players you robbed us Southampton, I forgive you for Clyne.
Best signing 12 mill.

24 Aug 2015 22:41:44
You think Clyne had a good game vs Sanchez?

24 Aug 2015 22:53:44
As good as most I've seen against Sanchez, although ozil was out wide a lot too, and he still managed to get forward

24 Aug 2015 22:56:21
Not many do against Sanchez

24 Aug 2015 22:58:18
I think it was more a lack of support at times than anything he did particularly badly. In that second half monreal was probably the biggest difference for them down that wing. The overlap was nearly always on .

24 Aug 2015 23:02:09
He is the best we signed with 65 mill spend on Southampton players.

24 Aug 2015 23:02:19
Sanchez was busy that's it .

24 Aug 2015 23:03:09
Bob

How man full backs could actually better Sanchez? I doubt none in the league except Coleman.

24 Aug 2015 23:06:40
Clynes fantastic.

There's a lot more to come from this team.

24 Aug 2015 23:11:43
I think Clyne had a good game.

24 Aug 2015 23:13:39
i'm agreeing with you because yes, yes i do think he did.

24 Aug 2015 23:17:48
Yes he did

24 Aug 2015 23:21:25
clyne was phenominal start to finish. give your head a wobble bobatron

24 Aug 2015 23:28:27
He did boba

24 Aug 2015 23:42:22
I think clyne has been fantastic but Bob does like to be dramatic, 3 games and we have been far more assured at the back than we were last season.

25 Aug 2015 00:38:19
For a player who was up against Snachez, Ozil & Monreal with basically no cover or support in the second half, Clyne was phenomenal! People need to stop wishing we f up or always seeing the negative just to get rid of BR.

Yes our players made mistakes today but as a defensive unit they were better than we've seen in years

25 Aug 2015 08:09:51
Clyne was NOT phenominal from start to finish. Sorry BennyBaller,but they got through him on the right time and again.

25 Aug 2015 08:10:26
BTW i'm not saying Sanchez won't trouble any one,I'm saying what's far from the truth is Clyne had a good game

24 Aug 2015 22:20:01
Where are the skrtel haters tonight he's a beast he mops up others mistakes also. He's in top 3 in premier

24 Aug 2015 22:12:33
Would just like to say that Ibe was absolutely terrible today, I would have played with one less man than have him on, he was a liability today. To be honest, he hasn't been good in any of the games but tonight he was exceptionally poor. what do you guys think?

24 Aug 2015 22:32:10
He's a kid, what else do you expect?

Tgis is the problem, you see, and comments of that nature proves just how much unnecessary pressure is placed on the shoulders of young players.

Sort it out please mate.

24 Aug 2015 22:33:12
He's a kid I bet he loves supporters like u. Bet his confidence is sky hi reading this site. The boy will be quality just needs more confidence.

24 Aug 2015 22:35:28
Personally i think should have watched the game better, he came on 60 mins in when arsenal were dominating and we were sitting back hitting them on the counter, in a game were he wasnt up to speed due to arsenal pressing etc, he's a kid, what next rossiter was crap and should be dropped to bar having sanchez and ozil in his pocket?

really wonder why some people moan about youngsters not getting game time then they do and get slaughtered for it, give them a bloody chance were you as good as him at football at 19?

24 Aug 2015 22:36:00
He is better than Sterling they say. precise 10 times.

24 Aug 2015 22:36:59
Not his best but we must have patience with him, he is a young bloke.

24 Aug 2015 22:39:34
He had a bad 20 minutes, but he's 19 and I think we could stand to cut him a bit of slack. Players generally aren't the complete package, especially mentally, at that age.

Y'know when people we're on Sterling's back at the start of the contract saga and suggesting he wasn't even that good and that we had Ibe who was better, I speculated as to how long it would take people to turn on Ibe. But I thought it'd be longer than three games.

With Firmino, Lallana, Coutinho and Markovic on the books we can afford to manage him and won't have to rely on him as our only attacking outlet. He'll be fine over the whole season lads, relax.

Oh, and before you type "But Joe Gomez is 18 and had a great game", remember he's the exception rather than the norm for players that age.

24 Aug 2015 22:41:08
He was shocking tonight but it is early in the season so il give him some time, also let's not forget it was arsenal who in my opinion are the hardest team in the league to play against, for all The nice footy we can play they can match us.

24 Aug 2015 22:43:57
I said last week sadly I don't think him to llanna are up to it . Comparisons with Sterling are way off with Ibe

24 Aug 2015 22:46:40
I think it would be foolish to play with one less player.

He had the worst 30mins he'll likely ever have in his career. Is he 19 or 20?

He had a stinker. It will still be a good learning experience for him and he will still be an excellent player.

24 Aug 2015 22:49:48
so sterling was good every game then? anyone for forgotten the countless missed sitters he had?

24 Aug 2015 22:52:17
Yeah agree that he was poor tonight, but he is like 18 and coming on against Arsenal at Arsenal when they were having their best period.

I don't think he's at a level to win or change games, for that reason i'd play him more against teams we really should beat and beat comfortably or introduce him as sub into games when we are 2/3 - 0 up. I'd have liked to see Ings and his pace and desire given a go ahead of Ibe tonight.

Still a fantastic prospect and should stay rather go on loan.

24 Aug 2015 23:03:37
Get a grip for gods sake. He is young, he is going to be inconsistent. He was on scraps playing with his back to goal. He is not that type of player, get off his back

24 Aug 2015 23:13:11
Have all the haters had a bad experience from life? Did you learn from it? Sometimes you learn more from a bad experience than you do from an easy unchallenging task.

Lets hope that he gets to learn from that and the experience.

Let's give him time before we slate him - last season wing back, this seasdon, he's already played in two positions within 3 games.

24 Aug 2015 23:34:19
No people , I'm going with harry on this.He's young and needs time but he's been nothing to write home about these 3 games . He should come of the bench then as he doesn't deserve a starting spot currently

24 Aug 2015 23:51:03
Ibe was brought on when we were sat at the edge of our area simply trying to absorb and boot away any arsenal threat. He covered well for Clyne when he sauntered up field,took up his defenses lines well,and sat deep.
going forward he gave the ball away twice which I think was avoidable,but alternatively we were massively lacking in options up there.when we had chances to break,we simply didn't committ to the break and left it to Moreno,Ibe Benteke,and when he was on Firmino.

Whereas I know stats aren't everything.

Arsenal 1st half
possession-57%
Shots -3
on target-1

Arsenal 2nd half
Possession-67%
Shots-16
on target4

Arsenal clearly had a much MUCH stronger 2nd half
we fouled 8 times and received 4 yellow cards having received no cards in the 1st half. To say Ibe was poor is unfair,we were being battered as Arsenal threw in the kitchen sink.

24 Aug 2015 23:45:20
If you're good enough, you're old enough. Judging the last 3 performances, he ain't good enough.
I was hugely impressed last season with Ibe. What's happened??!? His first touch and awareness are aweful.

Possible idea to send him out on loan to one of the lower level Prem teams??? Less pressure, a lot more game time in the top flight? Perhaps I'm being a bit trigger happy.

24 Aug 2015 22:08:01
Nice to see a bit of optimism for a change.

The times they are a changin'

24 Aug 2015 22:32:54
The times will also blow in the wind with some of the fickle lot on here lad.

24 Aug 2015 22:36:05
We still played poorly in the second half.

Arsenal were just more woeful in the 1st. I don't think I've ever seen a half a bad as Chambers

24 Aug 2015 22:06:11
As i said several times it is not going to be defense and number of goals shich decides liverpools chances of progression.

24 Aug 2015 22:01:46
Really happy!

First half we were sensational! Credit to Rogers we were setup perfectly.

Second half we had to absorb all the pressure which was expected.

Keeping a clean sheet away to arsenal though!

No doubt certain people on here will find plenty to moan about though

24 Aug 2015 22:37:57
Ibe is the target tonight already as he had a "bad game" apparently!

24 Aug 2015 23:00:04
Betty,
You are commenting about Ibe on every post. He had a terrible game. So he is young, great then hopefully he will improve but he was terrible tonight, that's the truth so I'm not sure why you're jumping on every post giving out because people are saying what was clearly true.

24 Aug 2015 22:01:06
Skrtel is just the best, hate him or love him.

24 Aug 2015 22:27:15
Of course we hate him here. 😄😄😄. He drops deep.

24 Aug 2015 21:59:49
We've become 'hard to beat'. And that is a good thing, infact it's a very good thing!
Before the game I was happy with a point,, but after having more shots on target, Cech having the game of his life, smashing the frame of the goal twice and Benteke missing an absolute sitter,,,, I think we shoulda won

25 Aug 2015 06:44:06
He didn't miss. It was saved. Many lesser keepers wouldn't have reacted as quick to it.
He should have scored but at the same time he didn't do anything really that wrong

24 Aug 2015 21:58:21
Im a moaner on here, I do it regular, but not tonight, we grafted, we could have won it in the first half, we have massive positives, one of which has to be Lucas, surely we must find a space for him in the side, we looked more balanced, Gomez is 18, 18! he's going to be a beast that lad, Clyne is solid every single game, Milner solid every single game, Bentekkers put a shift in again, for me Couthino could release the ball quicker but puts it all in every game, I like the look of Firmino,and its a good start to the season, 7 outta 9 with the start we had and the way people including myself were complaining is a top top start to the season especially when that includes Stoke and Arsenal away as not many will get points at those grounds this year,
Overall a good 3 points and some really positive things, let's not sit and complain let's see things brightly for a change,
Its my new positive outlook haha!

24 Aug 2015 22:26:21
I meant a good point not a good 3 points.

24 Aug 2015 21:55:10
I'm impressed, would of taken a point before but really should have won that!

Clyne mops up everything, looking like a great signing.

Gomez is awesome too!

Coutinho looking like the main man, I guess it will take firmino a while to settle.

Benteke great out ball but not clinical enough, he's a one in 2 man and that's it. Hopefully we find some more goals in the team!

24 Aug 2015 22:05:52
He only had one real chance and cech pulled of a worldie! Disappointed with ibe though had a real chance to run at them but have it away too much! Firmino did well enough, back four looked solid enough, benteke was good again, still early days but I expect good things from him!
Draw was a fair result and better for us than them!
At least we had a spell of pressure, played well first half and pressed high! Definitely a game of two halves though.
Hope Lucas and can have done enough to get game time, Milner should be saved for big games or to replace hendo, works hard but doesn't do enough

24 Aug 2015 22:06:22
Just to add, I don't think our sub strikers are being used very well at all. Both strikers on bench have considerable pace which we would of done with on the break.

24 Aug 2015 22:11:13
One in 2 is good enough!

24 Aug 2015 22:16:43
Yup but in actually looking forward to seeing Benteke with Studge, they will cause chaos! Hope we play with Ings front on Saturday as well

24 Aug 2015 22:40:40
Finishing one chance is clinical fency.

24 Aug 2015 22:41:43
Lucas was top class, as usual. Big Ben fires the ball back to our defence at some pace, instead of holding it up sometimes to bring in people. Lost us possession once or twice, I think, doing that. Can was good but seems a little sluggish at times too. Firmino & Coutinho will be a real handful in the coming months, Gomez is solid, 18?? Clyne & Milner impress me more each game, Ibe needs a goal to settle himself down, just seems to be trying too hard & that's affecting his play. Mings was good, silly booking though. Centre Backs were ok, but still worry me. All in all a great result. Another clean sheet, & out of those 2 games last year we got zero points & conceded 10 goals!

Great to see Rossiter come on, will be a star & Moreno should be used more as an attacker, nearly won it for us at the end!!!

24 Aug 2015 21:53:48
Good result , clyne and Gomez are making the diffence to the back line ,it's early days but its looking a lot more solid this season ,Stil a good place to go to get a draw ,happy with the result and the performance ,come on you reds

24 Aug 2015 22:26:37
Theyre both quick and strong and have no problem taking the ball forward rather than back to the centre backs! Lovren seems to be growing in confidence, can't we just try him with sakho!

24 Aug 2015 21:45:52
Rossiter's positioning has been great but I've never seen a player more reluctant to take a pass. Tonight probably wasn't the best night to bring him on and especially for Lucas. Nerves have got to him.

24 Aug 2015 21:55:29
He was organising. Talking and pointing where the ball should go,he didn't want it at 1 point because milner was sat in the middle free with 15 yards,and Ibe Benteke and he were on the wing, passing it,he gave it to ibe with the angle to get it to Milner and Ibe looked to give it him back. There's a difference between shying away and organising the play

24 Aug 2015 21:56:06
Unless Lucas was injured or running out of puff - then subbing him has got to be the craziest decision I've ever seen!!!!!!

24 Aug 2015 22:00:02
Totally agree, but can you really blame him? He came on while we were doing everything we could to hold onto a draw. It was a really tight game, and I'm sure he was deathly afraid of making a mistake that would lead to a goal. He was playing tentatively, but I did see glimpses of potential. He had a few good tackles on the edge of the box and I don't think he misplaced a pass all night. I'm sure next opportunity he gets he will be more calm, he just got caught up in his own head tonight. Overall, I'm happy with the performance tonight. I thought we deserved a draw, and the defensive display in the second half was top notch.

24 Aug 2015 22:00:54
You could see it clearly somefella, he was gassed. For me he has to start with Henderson and Milner.

24 Aug 2015 22:02:39
I swear that sub was BR trying to make it look like he doesn't need Lucas when he quite clearly does.

That being said, Rossiter deserves a chance and I was delighted to see him come on.

24 Aug 2015 22:21:10
I noticed that bob but still feel he could offer himself up as an option while organising. It's not necessary for him to be static. It should come with confidence n experience though.

24 Aug 2015 22:37:58
I agree red eyes. Though wouldn't it have been more sensible to bring on Toure - he is experienced and vocal, he has played as a defensive mid before and was replacing Lucas who was sitting in front of the cbs for the entire 2nd half.

In hindsight though, they didn't score so the experience of that pressure can only do rossiter a world of good.

24 Aug 2015 22:44:41
Red T he was the option,he was still available,the preference is the pass to another player in space in the centre to drive forward than down a channel that's already narrow

24 Aug 2015 21:43:26
PLease give Skrtel some credit those that slate him. Communication poor but saved us several times so far tonight

24 Aug 2015 21:45:57
No he drops deep. lols. He sweat blood today. brilliant performance.

24 Aug 2015 21:49:15
He has also been 3 yards behind the rest of the defensive line for most of the game - putting a number of their runners onside. Been a mixed bag from him tonight as usual.

24 Aug 2015 21:54:55
Not a Skrtel fan, but he's suited to playing in a deep defence and he did well tonight.

24 Aug 2015 21:55:30
maybe so RedTD but equally he kept us in it several times

24 Aug 2015 22:17:18
I'm not disagreeing, he made some great last ditch stops. The near own goal was one of them. I was just stating his play wasn't all positive. Just needs work on holding the line.

24 Aug 2015 21:39:19
Crazy anyone complaining tonight, still early days and good signs, as for lucas, well if we sell him we must be mental, way more balance, top drawer player

24 Aug 2015 21:58:57
Yep. Lucas is first class. Totally agree

24 Aug 2015 21:26:41
Was working and missed the first half but 25 mins into second and we are getting a lesson from Arsenal, surely only a matter of time before they score, too deep and terrible passes out of defense.

24 Aug 2015 21:42:28
And Ibe keeps giving them the ball for some reason - I'd take him back off!!!!

24 Aug 2015 21:43:13
Mostly excellent in the first half, pretty even game so far really

24 Aug 2015 21:55:05
Just have to say when you bring on a sub you expect something from them and I thought Ibe was shocking, yellow card for Can trying to clean up one of Ibes shocking passes.
Subs need to be better prepared when coming on Ibe looked shell shocked. I know I'll get the he's only young but if he's good enough to come on he's got to get his head sorted and be ready for these chances when he doesn't start, Oxlade came on and was excellent for them.

24 Aug 2015 21:17:48
Can given the chance to play in midfield and seems to be good going forward but is very lazy tracking back

24 Aug 2015 20:58:57
Half-time: I'm well chuffed! Unlucky with a few. But we can play lads! Firmino, Lucas and the rest all playing well.

24 Aug 2015 20:55:04
Another thing, obviously in bias, but I can't see how Ramseys head wasn't offside? Any part of the body you can score with behind the line are you're off right?

24 Aug 2015 20:52:21
After watching that first half i can't actually remember us dominating as much as we have in a long long time, lucas and can are breaking everything, arsenals defence are making huge mistakes when we press and coquelan has saved them a few times. Hit the post twice and cech has just made what could be save of the season. We could be 4-1 up and arsenal couldn't complain (their goal should have stood imo)

24 Aug 2015 20:50:17
so erm.anyone else think Lucas is crap?? and should be moved on?? awesome servant to our club, and has smashed the first 45 tonight!! Benteke looking good, Firminho looking good also, great first 45!!

24 Aug 2015 20:46:02
You would think that arsenal cannot possibly play that poorly in the second half.

Have we missed the chance here?

Brilliance from cech though (granted Big Ben should have buried it but still).

24 Aug 2015 20:34:42
Anyone else agree looking class's out there? c'mon FSG block his sale boys

24 Aug 2015 19:59:18
i will be proved right or wrong about lucas tonight , in the build up to the game on SS1 it showed the game last season and the mistakes lucas made

As I've said lucas is in and i hope he plays well and shows me what a lot of fans on here see loads of fans on here say he should be the first name on the team sheet , well he has the chance to prove it to everyone tonight

I have been one of Lucas's biggest critic's , i really hope he prove's me wrong though and that he has a storming game and wipe's my eye , if not we can be in trouble because Arsanal pass the ball so quick in midfield and lucas needs to be on his game , this game will show us all if he has a future at our club or if we need a new def-mid before the window closes and it will also show us if he is in the same class has the other top def-mids in the prem at the moment , like matic ,

i wou;d have played Emre Can or James Milner instead of lucas ,

come on the reds

Y.N.W.A

24 Aug 2015 20:31:45
havent read all your post Brock but Lucas lookin every bit the quality you expect from a DM. If he is allowed to leave after what he has shown these first 30 min then heads need to roll. Go on Lucas lad

24 Aug 2015 20:56:03
Half time: Lucas playing very well. Team playing v well.

24 Aug 2015 20:57:35
He's proved it for years now, you shouldn't base your opinion on tonight's game.

24 Aug 2015 21:01:34
Can or Milner instead of Lucas? So you want Milner playing twice?

24 Aug 2015 19:47:34
Couldn't have asked for a better starting XI

24 Aug 2015 19:34:23
Brendan has just confirmed in an interview on Sly Sports that Lucas is the best defensive midfielder at our club

Eureka

Just keep him and play him. not just tonight but all the time.

The injuries to Henderson and llanna may turn out to be a blessing in forcing a change or two to our side.

24 Aug 2015 20:03:43
maybe he said that because we have no other def-mid at our club or to give lucas a boost before the game , tonights game will show us how good he is let's hope he does not have the same game like the last time we played them last season where lucas had such a poor , poor game , lucas is a very nice man and profesional but the best def-mid in the prem or one of them then that's going over top , i don't know any other def-mid who has cost the team so many goals against , i'm my opinion we need a new better def-mid

24 Aug 2015 19:20:14
Balotelli to Milan confirmed. No loan fee; no obligation to buy at seasons end. We'll never get rid of him. Why is he at my club!

24 Aug 2015 19:29:36
Coz, for some strange reason the club representative bought him at 16 mill an year ago.
He started close to 5 games through out.

24 Aug 2015 12:30:11
echo reporting a suspected injury to lallana ahead of the clash at the Emirates tonight?? have any of the ED'S heard anything. ED002? ?

{Ed002's Note - I am not in the UK right now and am a little out of touch.}

24 Aug 2015 18:53:14
Maybe he has a throat-ache from all the interviews he has been giving?

24 Aug 2015 19:24:11
Maybe he's alergic to nivea products

24 Aug 2015 19:32:42
Overdosed on 'Nivea for men'

Note: other moisturisers are available from all good boutiques. 💁

24 Aug 2015 17:15:33
I've just been reading that the Balotelli deal to Milan involves no loan fee and there's no Clause to buy him at end of loan deal. Surely some of these details are wrong.

If we are paying half his wages, plus no clause to buy at end of loan and finally no loan fee that's a bad deal by us.

I know we need to move players on due to FFP and squad size, but there must have been better offers on the table than this.

We will end up with him back this time next year and no doubt we will agree the deal again with Milan for another season.

Has a hint of Aqualani to it this. Deja vu.

24 Aug 2015 17:56:04
All depends on whether he's successful. If he becomes a first team player for them we can negotiate a decent deal in next summer (albeit we'll never get £16M back). If not he'll be another Aquillani.

24 Aug 2015 18:02:08
Absolutely not better offers on the table and you cannot force a player to join a club you wish.

24 Aug 2015 18:56:32
No better offer Balotelli will agree to. There was interest from the middle east and they would have paid good money. It really takes us back to last summer and who ever thought Balotelli was worth all this hassle. That guy is just as inept a person in his job as anyone.

24 Aug 2015 16:30:39
Obviously three points would be the most important but I'd love of we win today just so that we can wipe that smug feeling from the gunners. Have a look at their page. And I quote " Liverpool have no chance i'm hell of beating us tonight" God I hope we win

24 Aug 2015 16:56:17
I would take the defete given we play brilliant football. Early in the season and Arsenal away is not a do or die for me, But the experiments should stop tonight. A settled team and fantastic away performance would set up nicely for the next home and away game.
Both Milner and Can has been crying out for the CM role and what better than Arsenal to prove it.

24 Aug 2015 17:05:13
It's probably Waro and redohio posting on the gunners page

24 Aug 2015 17:07:15
Win more important than the performance today by far, a scrappy win would be more beneficial than a good display

24 Aug 2015 17:09:11
We never do well at the emirates, never!

So why do I have a strange feeling we will tonight?

24 Aug 2015 17:12:15
Yeah I was reading various similar posts. Why have arsenal fans become so smug and unlikeable all of a sudden? Perhaps they're actually worried about us for a change. The bookies don't give us much hope either. They have us at 4s to win. And 3s to draw.
I'm with you Reet. I'd love to see the smile wiped off their smug faces. Let's hope Big Ben batters them.
Can't wait till kick off. I'm dreaming of a result just like Muscat (but I'd take a draw if it was offered right now).

24 Aug 2015 17:15:57
Ron

That was class. lols.

24 Aug 2015 17:27:05
I'm thinking of asking the eds for a restraining order against you Ronald, your obsessed with me lad! Your displaying all the characteristics of of a twisted obssessed blue but with less charm and charisma😉

24 Aug 2015 17:31:55
Why the chough would you "take the defete"?

We are not the barcodes. This club is about winning things. That kind of mentality has no place at this club.

Can you imagine those words from any of our great managers?

24 Aug 2015 17:36:19
I tell you what, a win and a great performance would be even better :)

24 Aug 2015 17:41:37
Obviously the 3 points is the most important thing, but personally above all else I want a good performance with some real offensive threat, I want to see us move forward not just stick to the pass, pass, pass.

24 Aug 2015 18:03:52
User

Y take a good defeat, because we have been very poor in the first two games that a decent performance would do for me.

24 Aug 2015 18:30:54
EG talking like BR now. We may have lost ten nothing by I felt our boys played excellent and showed great character. Overall a wonderful performance.

24 Aug 2015 18:41:49
Jraz

The last line sums up. character and BR. 😂😂😂😂

24 Aug 2015 18:11:57
Harry.
Why would you take a defeat is beyond me? I'd be very happy if they had 95 % possession 100 shots on goal yet we got the three points.

Ed001 i beg you please let waro and rk om a podcast. The comedy value would be gold

{Ed001's Note - it could be the start of something beautiful.....}

24 Aug 2015 19:46:51
EG you really are talking rubbish. Winning is everything.

24 Aug 2015 16:13:24
I know you two have heard this a lot but you two do a great job with the podcasts very interesting and makes me laugh.

I think what Rodgers did was obviously backstabbing but I guess when it comes down to it youve got to do what you got to do to keep up there so I don't particularly blame him. My main issue with Rodgers (as you guys have said) is the style of play at the moment is awful and I'm confused why we don't go back to the season we came second so frustrating.

I've got work today till 9 so gutted I'm going to miss most of it but I'm quite pessimistic for todays game unusually. Arsenal will run rings round our defence if the midfield in front doesn't protect them well enough.

Fingers crossed though!

24 Aug 2015 14:20:24
We will be fine tonight, predicting a scrappy 1.0 win to us again.

24 Aug 2015 14:13:55
Delighted to see Ilori back in training, hope he gets his chance and grasps it.
Lucas conspicuous by his absence, would be very annoyed if we let him go. With Hendo's injury, I guess we'll know tonight once and for all if Lucas is going or not.

24 Aug 2015 15:26:37
Illori control is amazing he's a fast strong and good positional awareness

24 Aug 2015 13:07:46
BR on his playing style:
"That notion hasn't changed but as you evolve as a manager and a coach, you understand and recognise that at times there are different ways to win a game of football. When you have those types of players, that gives us a better way to win."

Seems like he's listening to O'Driscoll already!

24 Aug 2015 14:20:17
Isn't that just an interview about bentekkers? not his overrall philosophy?
BR shown he's not too averse to adapting after ed01 told us about Bielsa,the problem he faces at the moment is that we're still playing this slow tempo posession football which in the interview you mention he says
''Our conditions of our game won't change but hopefully because of the different strikers it gives that unpredictability to our game.''

Currently we are still playing that football,with only 2 or 3 people pressing,and when that doesn't work,Skrtel and couts end up booting in the air to Benteke,but there's no one in the follow up within 10 yards of the lad to take advantage in the territory.

I agree though Benteke does certainly give a different option,but currently we aren't using that option wisely,just more of an ''out'' when we're in trouble

24 Aug 2015 14:48:24
Thats more confusing than the previous one.

24 Aug 2015 17:35:12
Come on we can't just put everything down to odiscol. Whether it's his team selection, subs, interviews or shirt choice it's down to Sean.

24 Aug 2015 12:26:06
Hi eds
Old user who rarely posts these days.

Was at the Arsenal page, and they apparently believe we'll be a walk-over. Can't say I blame them, really. Here's hoping to prove doubters wrong tonight.

By the way, ed 1, how has Harry Scouser/Home fan/European Glory/ Whatever he'll soon start calling himself suddenly become a star in this site? Back in the days he was always running the risk of being banned.

Cheers, and keep up the good work!

{Ed001's Note - he still does risk that on a daily basis!}

24 Aug 2015 13:00:22
Infamy is the quickest way to get "known".

Maybe I'll start acting like a mega-moron, maybe my opinion will get noticed then xD

{Ed001's Note - start? ;-)

24 Aug 2015 13:39:46
He said mega ed. I think he is currently sitting in the ultra-moron bracket.

{Ed001's Note - hahaha.}

24 Aug 2015 14:00:30
uber-moron, jraz, get it right lad.

24 Aug 2015 14:07:27
It's alright though. I could have called someone a geek for using an LoTR reference, shortly after they've used a Starwars one.
;)

{Ed001's Note - I actually like LOTR but shhhhhh it's a secret as it is far more fun to wind up benny than admit that.}

24 Aug 2015 15:19:47
So I'm over opinionated, big whoop wanna fight about it?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oJimiVFCjJ0

24 Aug 2015 16:42:47
HATE LOTR. Seriously can never understand how that has such high following. Same cade with Star Trek and Jurassic Park

{Ed001's Note - the books Reet not the films, which are rubbish.}

24 Aug 2015 18:38:10
Talking about LOTR ed? Have to disagree. I really did not like the films. Mind you the books were even terrible. I'm a huge book warm but i couldn't get past 30

{Ed001's Note - the books are good but the films are awful. The books do take a bit of getting into though.}

24 Aug 2015 12:19:07
So how does everyone see tonight going,
1. What team selection
2. Final score.

24 Aug 2015 12:45:17
Arsenal 3-0 or 2-0
They have too much for lfc at the Emirates
And unfortunately only coutinho long range efforts and bentekes power are the only threats for Liverpool no one else in the team scores goals

24 Aug 2015 12:57:19
Can-Milner in the middle. Arsenal win 2-1.

24 Aug 2015 13:03:01
red lobster betting against liverpool winning? surely not? he's much more of a glass half full kinda poster isn't he?

24 Aug 2015 13:04:51
I'm going to be slightly optimistic and say a draw. Had a ticket for tonight as well but turned it down as it was in the Arsenal end!

24 Aug 2015 13:16:12
arsenal 0 liverpool 1, benteke goal scorer

24 Aug 2015 13:22:04
Draw 2-2. Can in for Henderson maybe a start for firmino.

24 Aug 2015 13:26:12
My team would be
Migs
Clyne - skrtle- lovren- moreno
Can
Hendo. Milner

Ibe. Benteke. Coutinho

Obvs would prefer sakho but I don't think that's going to happen. I'll go for 0-2 lfc

24 Aug 2015 13:46:42
Migs, Clyde, skrtel, lovren, gomez, can, Milner, coutinho, Ibe, firmino, Benteke.

1-2 to LFC, scorers Skrtel, Benteke, Sanchez.

24 Aug 2015 14:03:05
Arsenal haven't made the best of starts, but we've always been soft at the Emirates, aside from that 2-0 win under Kenny. I believe that is the only time we've won at the Emirates, no?

24 Aug 2015 14:13:54
---------------------Mignolet---------------------
---------Gomez----Skrtel-----Sakho----------
Clyne-------Firmino-----E.Can------Moreno
----------Milner----------------Coutinho--------
----------------------Benteke---------------------

I'd put Firmino in for Hendo as he's more than capable of playing central midfield, and use the pace of Moreno and Clyne to get in behind Arsenal in this 3421 formation.

Red Rum

24 Aug 2015 16:14:31
How on earth did Firminio end up behind Milner in that formation murder?

24 Aug 2015 16:23:07
Red Rum

Firmino should play up front. I would rather Lallana in the center mid than playing him wide left. He would get time on the ball and could be a useful player. Firmino and Ibe on either side as we need pace to pin down Arsena full backs.

24 Aug 2015 18:14:23
Not keen on Milner in cm at all. He's played as a winger/attacking midfielder all his career. Firmino can do a job cm even though I would much rather have him playing further forward. But since Rodgers is practically forcing Lucas out of the club, and we have NO other cm's, Firmino would be my choice for this game.

Red Rum

24 Aug 2015 11:15:11
This weeks podcast was good again ed an Benny.
I think you should be happy Brendan is being ruthless myself, if only he had a pair of balls that big to drop Gerrard when needed and to drop skrtle now.
The fact that he still insists on playing skrtle and not Lucas or sakho is still cause for concern for me, you can replace your coaches for better ones but if your still picking the wrong players then these coaches can only do so much, you can't polish a turd after all and Brendan's team selections are usually turd.
Hopefully the new team will convince Brendan to change the formation rather than be yes men and continue to let him pick the wrong players.
Not sure I have seen Adam post in a while but he would be perfect as a guest on your podcast to maybe do a statistics special.
Keep it up.

{Ed001's Note - I hate stats mate, they are useless on their own and it would take hours to explain the context for each stat.}

24 Aug 2015 13:55:21
'Balls to drop Gerard'
Seriously!! Have a bit of respect for a legend lad.

24 Aug 2015 08:38:45
Morning eds, reds,

Loan update.

Ojo was subbed off after an hour as Wolves lost 2 nil to Cardiff.

Lloyd Jones was an unused sub as Blackpool lost 2 nil to Sheffield United. It appears he was one of a few dropped for their awful start to the season.

Vigouroux and Williams played the full 90 whilst Stewart was a 70th min sub as Swindon beat Southend 1 nil.

Wisdom was an unused sub as Norwich drew 1-1 with Stoke. Wisdom is yet to get even a minute of game time.

Danny Ward kept a clean sheet as Aberdeen Continued their perfect start to the season by beating Dundee 2-0.

Alberto was an unused sub as deportivo drew 0-0 with Sociedad.

24 Aug 2015 09:16:04
Shame about wisdom I think of all our loaned players he needs game time most

23 Aug 2015 23:08:58
hey eds
would like to get your views on ibe and sterling
you have stated that you reckon ibe will be better, but why is this?
and what are your views on sterling? seen some rate him and some dont
would like to read your views

{Ed001's Note - I have said from the start Ibe will be better, he has a better attitude, he works harder in training, he is much more powerful and strong. On the pitch they are about the same level ability wise, but physically Ibe is streets ahead and is only lacking experience to move ahead of Sterling ability wise. With the attitude he has displayed, since he first started at Wycombe, he seems the type of lad to deal with the hype and not let it go to his head.}

24 Aug 2015 06:19:03
Disagree there Ed01, they are different players altogether and moving into the future they ll be different players.
IBe is an out and out winger while Sterling ll emulate a different dimensions and role.
Ibe is not half Sterling was at this stage, the lad had close to 13 goals two seasons ago. Sterling is a very clever player and would reach heights at city.
His assist for the first goal shows exactly what he is all about. He would be a regular starter for city for the next 5 good years.

{Ed001's Note - Sterling played with Suarez and Sturridge, that is why he got so many goals. Put Ibe alongside those two and he will get as many goals. As for what kind of player they are, that changes over time, Sterling was an out and out winger when he first came into the team.}

24 Aug 2015 06:44:12
Sterling is ten times better than Ibe and was ten times better at his age. I didn't hear any concerns from anyone about Sterling's attitude other than his wish to move to City and in any case attitude doesn't make someone who is less talented into a great player.

The common view here by the way was that Sterling will be a squad player at best in city. so far he is one of the first names on the team sheet and had his first assist yeterday.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but that is total nonsense.}

24 Aug 2015 07:33:35
Fanobip
Balotelli all the talent wrong attitude
Ronaldo when he first went to man utd was a decent player hard work made him one of the best players in the world

24 Aug 2015 08:06:33
yea once city sign de bryune or some other player let's see if sterling makes the starting team. he got his first assist yes but that wasnt any great work . kolarov just has a bullet left foot. sterling won't start if city acquire one big player.

24 Aug 2015 08:08:02
Not really Ed01, BR changed the Sterling we all knoow to a large extent with the way we played.
I have said this some two years ago, Suarez played a major part in the development of Sterling. His goals gave him the confident to push on.
Ibe will never be same as Sterling IMO. They are differnet players and would remain. Ibe is a winger and BR would never play him centrally at all. I can't see Ibe scoring 10 goals a season playing out wide.
It was not his goals that made city to pump 50 mill. He is almost there as finished article.

24 Aug 2015 08:18:45
Fano Sterlings attitude was mentioned on here a while ago. I specifically remember a personal thread between me and e001 talking about Sterling and Ravel Morrison about 2-3 years ago(when he was at westham) and it was touched on.
There were a fair few on here saying he could go warm the pines,but nothing I could see from the regular posters.EMS redohio,rencey waro etc etc.

There isn't even the remotest bit of truth in claiming Sterling is 10x the player Ibe is. That's just stoopid

24 Aug 2015 07:21:46
Agree with Ed001. Did you watch Sterling without Susrez in the team making space for him?
He was a different player. Ibe is at least as good as Sterling.

24 Aug 2015 08:54:54
I said couple of seasons back that ibe will be a better player than sterling, quite a few disagreed then, sterling is a great player full of potential, he was given an opportunity to play along side perhaps one of the greatest forwards in Suarez, Suarez although a complete . Lifted the team as a whole.
I've been watching ibe for some time after being told about him a while ago, and I've got to say he is going to be some player, in MY opinion better all round than sterling, I just hope he is given the chance sterling was on a regular basis.
He's got speed and power, his attitude towards the game is impressive for his age, his head hasn't turned towards look at me I'm amazing, he works hard trains hard and is improving all the time.
the whole team was woeful last season, sterling included, the chances he missed in at goal were in real, he didn't turn up along with the rest of the team for a lot of games last year, that's not me having a dig or blaming him, but you could tell that his heart wasn't in it, in ibe we've got a hungry player willing to work hard and play his heart out.
Any doubt he's going to be better than sterling should be gone by the end of the season if he's given the chance,
Sorry for long post, been a while but I've been watching this lad for years, always though he's going to be a belting player.

Lifelongred

24 Aug 2015 09:12:50
Akshit,

You sounds bitter to me, Once city signs KDB,we ll see affront three of Sterling - Aguero - KDB. Navas and Nasri would be benched.
The assist was clever piece of work by Sterling.

24 Aug 2015 09:15:18
Bob

The lad has no attitude problem and he just wanted a move to city. Let's be honest here. We will now have to draw a list of players who would want to move out from the club. All of the had one thing in common to win trophies elsewhere.
He is constantly booed by supporters and kept his head very cool. I could see him behaving well for the next 10 years.

{Ed001's Note - he does have issues, please don't try and sound like you are in the know.}

24 Aug 2015 11:34:25
I think currently Sterling is above Ibe but only due to the experience he has of playing approximately 2-3 years of prem football. Ibe has a great deal of potential but has a lot to work on with his end product, which I believe will come over time. Right now whilst Sterling hasn't got the most fantastic output, his movement is very good (probably something he benefited from playing alongside the likes of Suarez and Sturridge). That being said, if you compare them to when they both entered the first team, Ibe for me has shown a lot more to his game. If Ibe can continue working hard and developing his end product, I do feel we've got the better player

24 Aug 2015 11:41:19
Depay, ibe and sterling are what you get if you split Ronaldo into 3 players.

Sterling isn't a good individual player but he is a hell of a cog in a machine with his electric pace.

Depay doesn't have the pace contrary to what 'harry' believes but is a by the looks of things (although a one trick pony) very clinical once he gets it on his right peg.

Ibe is the one who can be better than both he has the pace, attitude and finishing ability but he is the one who doesn't offer an awful lot yet as he has to develop but that only comes with playing him. I've seen a few staying that he should he an impact sub, yet all season and beyond everyone has been crying about Brendan not playing the youth etc and now he is he best stuck with ibe because he is going to be one hell of a player.

You look at players now who think there great or want to emulate Ronaldo, yet they all forget how much Ronaldo put in to gr t were he is. It was his attitude that took him to the heights he is at

We all know sterlings stinks, depay ti he looks like he thinks he has made it. Ibe well the attitude looks fantastic and that will be the difference on who takes themselves to the next level.

Do you actually watch football btw first season sterling played and signed a new contract and developed well. Second season barely played didn't really get out in until Feb and benefitted from the system and then his first proper season after 2 seasons and he wasnt any good apart from a few flashes where his pace ocome out on top. If he wasn't English then your looking at people like delefeu, obertan for what he actually offers.

24 Aug 2015 12:33:48
Do you honestly think Sterling will be at citeh for 10 yrs not a prayer he'll be off in 2-3 years time abroad.

24 Aug 2015 12:35:01
EG I don't think we have to draw a list of players wanting to leave simply for trophies, but from a management perspective and playing time,I would hazard a guess financial incentives may have also led him to move to city too.

Sterling has received a lot of bad press,regarding shishas and laughing gas. which he was asked to stop doing by the club and ignored.
After the this is liverpool documentary,he came out and said BR apologised and said he was wrong,BR later denied that was ever the case. I've read/heard multiple other things too but couldn't possibly confirm them all. To put him the the light you seem to be holding him up to seems absurd.

24 Aug 2015 13:05:35
I seriusly feel for all thoes who are appreciating Countinho, Imagine if he hands in a TR?. Lols.

24 Aug 2015 14:11:48
You will always get bitter fans at every club. Heck even some of Chelseas acted up when Lampard left and the returned with City. You'll never stop dunces.
I don't mind when players want to leave the club I'll be gutted they're going sometimes,but it's usually better that they leave when their heart is not normally in it. The fans forgave Luis quickly enough after his shenanigans because he gave his all to the club. It's also widely known what he did with youth teams in his free time and how well he got on with people in the club.

If coutinho ever wanted to leave I'd wave him goodbye and good luck and hope he fulfilled his dreams,I just hope that in that process nothing bitter comes from his end towards Liverpool. He carried us on his shoulder last year,and saved us from embarrassment a few times,and started this season the same. as long as I feel a player has given us their all/will give us their all, they have my respect.

24 Aug 2015 14:56:05
BOB
I disgree, Majority of the players who performs good get a pay rise when they move. its simple math. Sterling moved because like us He doesn't fancy Liverpool winning anything under BR. what's wrong in it. Yes, the lad is guilty of creating a scene to force out a move, But footbal is football and everything is forgottem, I saw the KOP singing loud anc clear for Torres and Suarez at Gerrard Testimonial.

Sterling is still recieving abuses, but time heals everything. He is settled at city and I simply can't see him struggling, even if we wish for it.

24 Aug 2015 15:47:22
I have no idea what you're disagreeing with?
The idea that a player wouldn't move for money solely? we will never know why Sterling wanted to leave,clearly things weren't right between he and BR though. I don't think every player leaves simply for trophies at all. Take a look at the russian league with Hulk and Etoo, I certainly don't think they went there for the glory of the russian premier league or weather.
I'm not as sure as other Sterling will bag trophies at City,I'm not a fan of their current squads future. Which looks likely to rely on delph fernandinho and fernando when they phase toure out.

If football is all about winning trophies,Gerrard would have left us a long time ago as well as Agger. Some people have other factors.

24 Aug 2015 16:24:53
I've said for 2 years that Ibe was the better long term prospect than Sterling because he was more powerful, had more presence, kept his head up when in possession thus making him more aware, rode tackles better and has a better final product.

23 Aug 2015 22:29:32
Really excited to hear new Podcast, anyone know is it uploaded yet?? Can't seem to locate it if it is already. Cheers