Liverpool Banter Archive January 24 2013

 

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24 Jan 2013 23:20:11
Just seen Paul ince on the footballers football show on sky and while not giving to much away he was adamant it was not just us after his son and that he only wanted him to move where he will play. He seem fairly certain he will go in this window and had his usual smug look when suggesting it would not be to us. {Ed003's Note - didn't seem smug to me and he didn't suggest it wasn't to L'pool he just said other clubs are interested}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:14:45
Inter Milan are reluctantly allowing Coutinho to leave, and we all know who he wants to join, ask Lucas if you dont.

AsianRed


 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:11:36
1. Coutinho will be staying at Inter, we won't match their offer and he doesn't want to move to Southampton.

2. We are considering moving for Jack Butland as the Birmingham asking price seems to be very low (around the 4mill mark) and seems that Pep will be off in the summe, jack maybe loaned back to Birmingham until June.

3. Ince could be the only other signing this window, Been a breakthrough in the deal but Blackpool are waiting on the opinion of their new manager.

4. Suarez will be going nowhere, believes we were on the right track and will give us till at least summer 2014 for CL.

5. Expect an exciting summer, few new faces and one familiar....A certain number 14 we all know and love.

Watch this space. YNWA.


24 Jan 2013 23:26:27
Another crazy fan with deluded ideas. Are you on the board at Lfc. So how do you know all this? How do you know about what's going on with nice? Oh yeh I forgot your dad's brothers friend works at a pub and the guy who washes inces car goes in that pub and tells him all the new ince to Lfc gossip.


This is why we are called deluded, we will sign 1 or 2 players per window, the owners done it with the red sox,, that's why only 1 player this window, and there will not be loads of money to buy players, kenny seen to that with his andy carrol buy

mickey b


What like the exciting summer last year and the exciting January window we are now enjoying! FSG will not spend enough for us to compete for top players. The only exciting aspect of future windows for LFC fans will be seeing if we manage to hang on to the one or two top quality players we already have.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:10:48
Ed, just a random question here:

What's your thoughts on Assaidi and his Potential, and do you reckon he can make it at Liverpool?

Thanks


No, there is a reason he doesn't even get into match day squads.

Ben Rose {Ed001's Note - you mean because he is at the ACON? He does lack end product, but it is difficult to get a chance while not here!}


He wasnt getting into the squad whilst he was at the club either ed. He showed promise in early Capital 1 Cup games and Europa League but never had a chance in the Premier League.

I can only recall 3 or so appearances made by him in all competitions. Even when he was on the bench and Borini was injured and we only really had Sterling and Downing as options Rodgers would send Cole on instead (West Ham).

I hope he has a good African Cup and can come back and at least compete for a spot in the team.

Ben Rose


 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:10:18
Viktor Fischer please will do very nicely.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:07:06
marco rojas will sign before this transfer window closes heard this from a reliable source


24 Jan 2013 23:28:36
Whose the source because I just looked in my crystal ball and saw nothing. Come on whose the reliable source? Don't say the car parking attendant at melwood!


 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:05:08
Its all done. Nothing more can be done today as Coutinho will have a medical at Anfield before LFC are able to announce it.


Good made up lad don't forget to vote for razer to win


 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:04:13
mirko vucinic will sign before the end of january is what i'm hearing, personally I think its a load of nonsense what do you think eds?

koptom2


 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:04:00
hi eds are these ashley williams rumours true or just aload of rubbish? I hope there not after what he said about suarez an plus we don't want nomore swansea crap


24 Jan 2013 23:43:18
Get a grip i'm from swansea but a lfc supporter you got to give players a chance to bed in he's only young and ashley young would defo get into the Liverpool team he's head and shoulder better than our backs in the air

DRE


25 Jan 2013 07:54:38
Ashley Williams will be 29 in August, is that really " young" for a footballer?

Thomas


Never seen ashley young play centre half so ill take your word for it


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:55:49
Hi eds, is there any interest in Ben Arfa if not from Liverpool from any other club. If so how much do you think he will cost because personally I think he is a great player.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:45:50
Seriously this is really starting to p**s me off now, whether this Coutinho is decent or not is irrelevant, to lose one player to Southampton was embarrassing enough but to lose THREE?? What the hell is going on? Is there anyone who reads this page who knows a way to message our owners? I think they need to know how annoyed we all are at having the p**s taken out of us in the transfer market. Oh and before anyone starts with the 'we don't want to get ripped off nonsense' look back at what Ayre and Rodgers said about if we want a player we have the funds to get them and money isn't an issue; they're so full of it its untrue.


24 Jan 2013 23:36:39
The only thing that pixxes me off is people like you la. your comments are poor. Stop complaining. Why do we need to waste money on the crap that saints want. Wouldn't have any of them and they would only warm the bench. I'd like to send a message to the owners saying thanks for getting rid of hicks and gillett. Thanks for wiping out nearly 150m worth of debt. What thanks do they get? people like you posting ridiculous comments. Your a mug la and not a proper fan.


3?

Ramirez? We never made a bid, and our interest was evidently minor if at all.

Forren? We offered a trial, not a signing just for him to view Melwood etc. Southampton bought him so the trial was cancelled.

Coutinho. They have offered an acceptable bid, we havent. They are richer than us and can afford to splash out on him. If both teams had bids accepted and he chose Southampton it still wouldn't be embarrassing.

They are rich, ambitious and stable.

Ben Rose


Could you explain how we lost 3 or elaborate further i'm at a loss to see how we have lost 3 except for in your own mind where your probably a legend in your own lunchbreak


You're so full of crap - its true...
We lost three players? Who? We were never in for Ramirez; we only offer a trial for Forren, never made a firm bid either.
Why should we go into a bidding war for Coutinho? Inter can't force him to sign for Soton if he only wants to come to us - unless he's so desperate to leave that he says ok to them, like Goofy; in which case we are better off without him since he's not genuinely motivated to come to us... Singred


So southamton are a richer club than us, we have fallen more than you all realise, the players we were looking at but they signed would play better because we have better players than them, thier ambitions are bigger than ours, we realy should be worried about that, we all now have such low expectations that you all think its not worth a punt on a player, like every vlub who buys a player does, just because they are good at one club does not mean they will be good at another club, charlie adam, andy carrol, tom ince to name but a few, but it could also be visa versa, were the money could be well spent, so it come down to our ambition of the owners and the manager, can anyone tell me what else beside promotion to the prem BR has won, maybe its his mentality of buying swansea or players he has trained before, some one said di franco is free in the summer I don't know but there will be a big chance he come here because he has worked with BR before, sturridge has not and he has been a very good signing up to now who has all the ability to get us into 4th if he carries on scoring, maybe 1 more risky punt on a good player would get us that 4 th spot that would bring the better players back to us

mickey b


If Br wanted them they should of being bought end of, fsg gave him the job now they need to back him if he didn't want anyone that's fair enough, but the way people go on here about fsg is laughable.
If you like them fine if you don't fine time will tell now move on stop making a show of us
I myself think the sooner they go the better but I wouldn't call anyone who disagrees with me a clown or whatever .
These are lfc fans your having a go at.
Kop on
Eam


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:43:11
Ed do you know who coutinho wants to sign for IF he leaves inter us or saints thanx matey?


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:40:29
Less a rumour i'm on every day and I believe every name in Europe has been banded about and the eds have answered well. Small pat on the back for yourselves lads. i'm impressed in your knowledge and have tired to research myself to no avail.

Anyway with the release of Joe Cole how does our current wage bill look we have dropped so much dead wait over the last nine months. How do we compare to other top 5 clubs and or to ourselves this time last year.

love your site cheers


Joe Cole was on 90k per week, we are still paying 50k of that until the end of his contract (18 months) so that is only 40k off. Players like Kuyt, Maxi, Sahin etc are another 200k. However Sturridge, Borini, Allen and Assaidi (Aswell as pay rises for Suarez, Wisdom and Sterling) means we are about where we were but with a far younger squad.

Ben Rose


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:36:57
Eds, everyone seems to be asking about a coutinho deal. I'm interested in your thoughts on the player himself, good player, where would he play, good value etc? Sorry if already answered but can't find.
Cheers


Ctrl + F

Type Coutinho

Scroll through the 1 out of 2,000,000 results.

Then you can find. (Use the Rumours 2 page)

Ben Rose


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:36:38
The Liverpool way don't make me laugh. coutinho will sign for Southampton for £10m. He will become a fantastic player and when he is 23 we will sign him for £20m. Ayre will say this is a good deal as we have saved ourselves 3 years wages.

Ayre is not a great negotiator. He is embarrasing LFC again trying to get everything on the cheap. 1 place higher in the league is worth about 1.5m so if you like a player and really believe he can improve the team/squad 1m-2m is peanuts.

Something is clearly not right at LFC. If you have a better team and are nearer the top of the league you earn more money in TV. Sky schedule more matches. The money we are playing around with me is a joke.


If we value Coutinho at 8m then that is what we should pay. If Southampton want to pay 12m then so be it.
However, if he proves himself to be top drawer in the PL and settles well, our valuation of him may rise to 15m and we could bid that for him next year.
Or he may not be up to the rigours of the PL and our valuation may plummet to 5m.
There's no point whinging we didn't pay the extra couple of million when it is more than we value the player as there is no guarantee that he will be worth it. We already have a reputation for over-paying on under-performing players. Let Ian Ayre do his job and judge him on the amount we actually spend and the success of the player concerned.

cozinoz


What happend to tom ince then we sell him for a couple of hundred grand then buy him back for millions, that great buisness, I don't understand why we just did not loan him out, for a season or 2 then we would have the player for nothing, but could he also be a 1 season wonder, like joe allen, 15 mill andy carrol 35 mill, charlie adam, if we are willing to pay for ince I would ratehr have couthino, his potential and playing in a better league than the championship plus his skills and stats, do it for me, and just maybe if couthino played more games for inter he would be a lot better, but also if he played week in week out in the championship then I bet he would be valued more than ince, and there is no way we could afford him southampton would bid more for him, never mind the other bigger clubs, we have the chance to get a real gem of a player, I think we will blow it because we won't pay the extra mill or 2, I wonder how much sterling is worth, plus with his skill he would link up with suarez and sturridge better than ince, the south americans our on different wave lenghts when it comes to skill

mickey b


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:35:03
Sitting here watching the Malaga barcalona match and can't keep count on how many dives iv seen in this game between two world class clubs and still I haven't heard the team, cheat used once.
Irritating that suarez and his incidents are such major news. If the media are going to say it of one player at least be true of them all.


England is the ONLY country where Diving is a big deal, South America, Spain and Italy have accepted it, this is due to the media accepting it.

Aslong as tv and Sly Sports are around they will look at Diving as it is the only stories they seem to use. That and the Ball Boy situation.

Ben Rose


Let me get this! You are justifying diving and saying it's not a big deal and it's the press and media who make it s big deal!!

Are you alright?

Its not liked because it's Sh#t and nobody likes to see it and its wrong!

Lyndon


By nobody you mean the British press? If they didn't bang on then it would be socially accepted like in essentially every other country.

Imagine the World Cup Final, Rooney doesn't dive when he would have got a penalty to win it. Up the other end Messi/Ronaldo/Xavi/Benzema go to ground and get a penalty.

Paraded as a hero in their own country, nobody would care from other countries and like the 'Hand of God' we would still be talking about it in the next century.

If Rooney won the penalty and won the world cup would Sky and tv be poisoning your mind with lines such as "Cheats England Ruin the World Cup" NO it would be "Rooney leads England to Glory"

Diving is part of the game, just like heavy jossling from corners or when keepers rush off their line for penalties. These are all parts of the game that win and lose games.

Diving is not nearly as much of a problem as Racism, career ending tackles or match fixing.

Ben Rose


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:31:36
Problems with Coutinho and Ince aren't the fee. It's the terms the players want. We would prefer Ince. Coutinho is second choice. But both are being greedy personal terms wise. RED LENIN


Those that disagree, wait and see. It's Ince we want. Fee is no problem - it's his personal terms that is the sticking point - far to much being made of Blackpool digging their heels in - we are willing to meet their valuation. Coutino is second choice - again fee is no problem it's the personal terms.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:27:11
Getting more depressed in this winter of our discontent!!
I hope our seesaw season doesn't end up with southmapton gazzumping us in transfers! Next, it'll be Reading or Villa (with respect to both) who would entice players we are after, I suppose!
If we fail in signing Coutinho over £2M, then boys and girls and fellow reds...we are in trouble!
Real value is very very hard to find. Sturridge is one but to expect to get your way in every transfer deal smacks of arroagance or a team who doesn't want to spend money!!1
Hope I am wrong!

Support Brendan Rodgers!!
Iranred in London


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:18:11
Hi ed's.

Just a question/general opinion.

Do you think its a major gamble Southampton trying to buy a player for 10million in January. Because they are in the middle of a relegation scrap.

Especially an unproved 20 year old.

If they were to go down. I couldn't see him wanting to play in the championship, along with ramirez.

So if he was to sign, could he possible only be there for a couple months. despite the high fee?

Pug.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:27:06
Eds 002-Is a transluscent pre-pubescent boy a glow in the dark child or one you can see through {Ed002's Note - Maybe in the moriong.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:02:03
Ed002 What's the situation with Enzo Zidane? Heard he was set to have a trial with us was that true? If so when will he have the trial and is he actually as good as people say?
Cheers
Hungarian Red


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:52:51
just wanted to get ed002 view on coutinho, I expect him to play the number 10 role at the club. but the way rodgers plays ever player has to give 110% each game, the clips I've seen of him I doubt he'll do that, also rodgers likes each of his players to play a number of roles i.e downing left back enrique left midfield he doesn't do that for no reason, once again I can't see him doing that is he really what we needs?
eds Macca or anyone who has seen him play apart from clips on you tube would be grateful.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:07:59
last straw fans

the liverpool management team in charge of buying or negotiating team are a complete BUNCH OF people and have no PULL or strategy or just any skill to have that job

again...southampton have embarassed the club again..
now don't reply to this saying.."oh maybe we shouldn't have a player who says yes to another team"...wake up

southampton..have shown one big thing to me....and its ambition.............speculate to accumulate someone of worth

and i'm sick of all the talk the club as a WHOLE...about "oh yes we are trying to find bla bla bla

1 player..in january and he was from the premiership.....now I ask you fans.............are you happy abut what's happening

im teling you at this rate...newcastle who ACT FAST...swansea and southampton...WILL end up having better quality players than us..cos our club are....how I would describe as..............SLACKING

a very angry red fan


Did I miss something ?
derryred


Have you been on the sherbets tonight my friend?? Ha


Manchester Red fan?

Ben Rose


I totally agree.
Jud.


Did you even know who Coutinho was before last week?


24 Jan 2013 23:10:44
newcastle, swansea and southampton are all behind us. if you want to support a club that chucks money in a BLIND PANIC then go ahead.. I like to believe that the majority of liverpool fans are smart enough to know that panic buying is something that should not have to be done. we got our top quality signin the day it opened, how on earth can you say that buying a bordeoux striker who has never done anything special and two defensive players is ambition? moussa sissoko may turn out to be a good buy but its not ambition.. ambition takes strategy and planning, not throwing money at players and hope they stick.. rant over......

calum red


Yes iam happy the club is moveing in the right direction crying about what ifs you sound like a kid that through your toy out off the pram I want I want I would rather have players that want to play for us like hendo allen lucas shelvey not players that want to go to clubs for 10-20 thousand more as BR said he wants players that want to play for the shirt look at the so called players we mist out on in the summer they are realy lighting up the prem aren't they
red rrab


Le Toon have bought quantity not quality, your probably the type of fan who slates the club for paying too much money for average or unproven players. The Jan transfer window is not good for quality players but we did ok with Sturridge, still a week to go and we still need another forward
heres hoping

Red1


24 Jan 2013 23:21:45
You are deluded. Other than Sturridge who out there is worth buying. Do you just want Lfc to spend money on players that are gambles or save the money for the summer and get good quality. The Jan transfer window is a panic buying time that's why Newcastle have been spending the money they have. What exactly are you an angry red for. Lfc are close to the fourth spot so we don't need to buy players for the sake of it. Coutinho is not as good as Suso. The fact that we're haggling a price for him and Southampton want to spend big on him shows that he's not that good. If he was as good as most on here think wouldn't Utd, city, Chelsea etc all be in for him. Shut up mate and let's wait for a better player to come along. Angry red ha ha! Don't forget that most fans would kill to be in the position that we're in and have the players that we already have.


Are you experiencing football rage? If so please contact your nearest club owner and ask for thier job. You could also try horlicks and a nice hot bath.

Noshbag


Don't be so fickle.

I know transfer-saga's are annoying, and the like of twitter don't help.

But what will be will be. If we wanted a player so bad, we would do everything to get him.

But its what's doing right for the club, under dalglish we paid way too much for the players he signed. so now every club is taking the mick a bit.

but come on, If southampton want to spend 13$ euro's on an unproven 20 year old, then let them have him. that's stupid money.

plenty more good players around.


We saved money last summer so that we could have an exciting Jan window. Now we are being wise and saving our cash for next summer! I agree we have wasted money in the transfer market in the last few windows but some of you with FSG rose tinted specs on need to wake up to the fact that with our current strategy we can no longer compete with any club with ambition, and there are plenty of them. But what the hell lets all have the faith and look forward to the next exciting window or ground hog day as its called in the good old US of A!


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:07:41
Hi eds can you tell me Wat actually happened with Sahin and why he left ? Apologies if this has already been covered but I don't understand how we ended up playing 4.4 for a few months loan and the player doesn't get a proper look in ?
Daniellambretta {Ed001's Note - he got injured then couldn't get back in the team, so the loan was cut short as he wanted to play.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:05:24
Hi eds,

When do you believe the Coutinho saga will end ( weekend) and to your opinion ( I won't slate you if your wrong) where will he be come February 1st

GAM# {Ed001's Note - I think he will either be at Southampton or Inter, probably Southampton within the next few days.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:04:22
Would coutinho be cup tied in Europe ed?
Matt29 {Ed001's Note - I believe so.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:55:31
Southampton will sign coutinho.it will be confirmed in the next 48hours.I think this is good for us, there better options if we wait till the summer.let's hope we can get 1 more signing in before the window closes


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:50:42
Think it's safe to say Andy Carroll will not be signing for Newcastle in the summer, unless he decides to follow in Joey Barton's footsteps and starts doing interviews with a French accent..


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:47:27
I really don't understand why everyone seems to think Suarez is just going to up and leave if we don't get champions league. I'm not saying he will or he won't but unless you are Luis Suarez no one knows what his decision will be, so stop all the s**t that he is definitely going. Rant over



P.s any chance we could go for Arda Turan would love to see him at Liverpool.
Challo LFC


I agree, he and his family seem settled and quite a few players have described the squad as a family so I don't see the base... Suarez has never said a word.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:36:41
Did we not learn anything from the last transfer window? Playing hardball and refusing to pay the asking price for players hoping that on the last day their club gives in and accepts. I also read that they are introducing a basic wage for the players topped up with bonuses for success are we really going to attract the top players on these terms ( although some of our current squad may end up owing the club money if put on these contrats!) I also don't rate coutinho he's overrated and can't hack the italian league is he really going to make it in PL ? Saying that if BR really wants him and thinks he ca and add to the squad why don't we pay the money and sign him?


So you're saying we should go back to paying inflated fees like we did for Hendo, Downing, and Carroll. You can say Hendo and Downing came good but they're good based on last seasons standards which weren't high.


Well we didn't get dempsey, and that resulted in us getting sturridge. Sometimes good things happen to those who wait.
derryred


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:26:25
Ed001, what is your opinion on Coutinho? Is he worth the extra few mil that inter want or not? Seems we really want him but is he good enough for us?
Cheers

Aussie red {Ed001's Note - hard to say, he showed a lot of potential when younger, but lately he hasn't looked like much at all. He might just need regular footie, but it is hard to tell. It would certainly be a gamble.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:26:25
Hi eds, you might answer one of my posts one day!
Do you think it would be an idea to sell reina for the 15 mill and get butland and tom ince or jeffren or villa or roja or defender, plus sell coates, all this after we tie up coutinho which will happen I'm 99% sure of it.
All in all would be an amazing window

Kj lfc {Ed001's Note - god no, Butland has been awful this season, I would much rather keep Reina than get Butland.}


Butland has never been good though. He got called up for the Euros and suddenly became are far superior keeper than he ever was or will be.

We wouldn't fetch £15m for Reina anyway but Ed001 who would you like to see in the circumstance that Reina goes.

I would like to see Trapp or Akinfeev.

Ben Rose


Went to the Olympics not euros

jay83 {Ed007's Note - Beach volleyball tickets??


Went to both, did nothing at either except play poorly for a bad team GB side.

Ben Rose


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:21:05
Eds.do we really need another midfielder in our team last count we had Stevie g Lucas, hendo, shelvey, Allen, coady, in a line of 3 or is countino coming in to replace one of the above.ynwa {Ed001's Note - he is most likely to play as one of the front 3, more to fight with Downing and Sterling for a place.}


Think Brendan is having a rethink on 433 judging by the Norwich game and were more likely to see Suarez and Sturridge upfront with Coutinho/Suso in the hole just behind them. In a 4312 set up
kidmillions


Ed do you not think we will play 4-4-2 now that we got sturridge or will we stick to 4-3-3 ?
Josh


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:15:08
A big shout out to Jimmy Kebe of reading.
French born kebe announced on his twitter ac that he had agreed to join newcastle and was on his way to st james park this morning for a medical, only to announce later in the day he was only messing, but not before tv sport and had it splashed all over their pages as fact,

nice one jimmy, I was sick of hearing about the ball man all day.

Red jay


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:07:27
Very strange, I don't know coutinho from Adam but for some reason after reading the posts over the last few days I'm getting a bit excited about the possible transfer. If I sit back and think about is, he really going to change the first team in the short term?

Gavalaar


Guys guys guys, I'm telling you he WONT be signing for Liverpool. We haven't even had a bid accepted and Southampton have, I've heard that betting has been suspended because he is in talks with Southampton.


About as much as Adam did; Charlie Adam, that is, ha ha.
I think he's more one for the future but who knows, depending on how well he settles and progresses.
Rigsby.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:03:56
hi eds not a rumour but a question ? with suarez just signing a new contract and saying he likes it here do you reckon he will go if a bid is accepted for him by the club, just to play in the champs league as we can see our team is getting better with each signing or do you think he will give us another season if we finish 5th or 6th because the team is getting better, player by player, thanks in advance

mickey b {Ed001's Note - IF we accepted a bid, I would expect him to go, if the bid was from a major European club in with a shout of winning the Champions League.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 21:03:42
Hey eds do you reckon Coutinho will sign in the end? Obviously the Saints have bid higher than us but I've heard he isn't interested in a move there. {Ed001's Note - hard to say, right now Saints are in pole position though.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:58:30
Personal opinion on Suarez rumours. I think a lot of deals get debated long before the player signs. I think clubs (like Bayern, City, Chelsea, PSG, Madrid, Barca) are actively negotiating with LFC for the summer.
I think there will only be a deal done if we fail to qualify for CL. If we do, I can't blame Luis for wanting to leave, as long as it's not in this country.
He will not move before the end of the season. Selling in January is equivalent to giving up on top 4.
I think a 40 million pound fee is reasonable in the Summer.
I think FSG would like to draw a line under Suarez's LFC career, hopefully they'll have to bite their tongue a bit longer!

Marcus Aurelius


Hopefully they draw a line under their lfc stay if they want to get rid of him


A poor torres went for 50m


Why would fsg want to draw a line under Luis Suarez' anfield career when he's scoring every week, daft remark.


24 Jan 2013 22:35:28
For goodness sake leave the Surez rumours alone, he is a Liverpool player under a long term contract he has stated he is happy at the club and untill he says differently he will remain, FSG don't sell the best player we've had at the club for a very long time build around him. he is a joy to watch
In my opinion he is massive to the club, not only for his quality on the field but off it as well
Despite his sometimes bizzare antics he is hugely marketable and atracts fans worldwide, his shirt sales although not affecting the club directly helps to keep sponsors happy. Without players of his skill and commitment we surely will be and always be a mediocre club. Personally I would not sell him for any price.

Bobbinred


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:53:23
Eds please please reply I really want to know this

Where is Doni {Ed001's Note - out walking Sparky.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:49:55
When will we know if the latest bid for coutinho has been accepted or not?


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:49:11
Inter have agreed a fee for Paulinho which I Assume is the replacement for Coutinho.

GAM#


No, Paulinho is the replacement for Sneijder. They've already bought Belhanda as the replacement for Coutinho.


I know. Its a joke.


*Sneijder

Ben Rose


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:46:02
Seems he gets a lot of flak on here from the fickles and negative fans. He gets dogs abuse from people who know nothing about transfer dealings other than Chump Manager.

Well I wanna say a big thank you to Ian Ayre for the tireless behind the scenes work he does negotiating the best deals and helping build LFC into a stronger stable squad for the future.

So on behalf of the silent majority I hope you hear this above the moaning THANK YOU IAN! {Ed001's Note - nice to see you found the site ok Ian.}


24 Jan 2013 21:37:11
I totally agree with your comments. Didn't I Ayre do the best deal in January, 12M for Sturridge. Then some nougats on here complain when he doesn't spend 10M on a young Brazilian who can't cut it at Inter. Football fans are a fickle bunch.


Jeez you are deluded. If your happy with his work then I pray for you.


He is gettin well paid for what he does


Fair to say that the Liverpool supporting eds (Majority) believe him to be useless.

I have no idea what he does, how he does it or whether he is good or bad. As long as we keep signing players like Suarez and Sturridge under him I'll be happy.

Ben Rose


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:44:16
Hi eds
Read an article on tv about the Deloitte Money League (for revenues in 2011/12), Liverpool are 9th with £189M, Juventus 10th with £158M.... Why are Liverpool running a seemingly conservative transfer policy with these large revenues? With BR mentioning the money for bigger signings is not available?
Please explain if you can? Cheers {Ed001's Note - because we have large outgoings. Hardly difficult to explain or understand.}


We can't have many large outgoings left, surely our wage bill is pretty average compared to city, chelsea and united?

Gary {Ed001's Note - that doesn't mean we don't have large outgoings. There are more than just players costing money, planning the refurb of Anfield etc. Coaching staff, paying off previously sacked staff (from Dalglish to Commolli to Chang) etc etc.}


What you mean ed wages?

majestic69 {Ed001's Note - and pay offs, that was a huge chunk of money being used up.}


Juventus would have been higher than us but match results cost more for the Italian FA to ignore these days.
Scouse_Pride


It's not revenue you should look at - it's gross and net profit - both as a percentage and as a hard figure. And ours aren't good. They are getting better, but they aren't good. RED LENIN


Hypothetically speaking.

Revenue = 100m

Costs to run = 120m

Loss = 20m

Therefore we make no money, but actually a loss and hence don't have funds for signings.

Ben Rose


People tend to forget that we had to pay off Kenny and pay for Brendan from Swansea. These two fees alone were not unlike a decent player transfer in itself.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:40:00
This is how I see a typical day in January at the LFC offices :


Dave Fallows and Barry Hunter sitting around in their office, dave decides to switch on his computer
- they begin to read the rumours on this site for any new players mentioned in the posts
- theylook up the player's stats on Fifa 13 (FIFA 10 if we are looking at older players)
- they pop next door to Brendan's office watch YouTube clips of the player
- then they all go to Ian Ayre's and leave post-it notes on his desk with a list of players and plane tickets to their respective clubs
- Ayre phones up Werner & Henry who tell him our ceiling price
- Ayre jumps on a plane when the player's club refuse to take his calls

At the end of the day, the cleaner fishes out the post-it note from the bin and then phones up daniel levy / harry redknapp and southampton with an update

A journalist from the Sun is standing outside the gates looking through the rubbish in the bins the cleaner has just chucked out

The nextday the rumours start in the media

Leam red


Brilliant, bunch of waters that run our club :(

Not BR tho, top man, and top manager. Shame he has these persons to work with, feel so for him!


Absolute rubbish. Dave Whelan has a look first
Robbie


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:35:37
FSG we want value for our money. Ermmm a twenty year old with loads of potential is value for money get the finger out and stop being stingy for goodness sake. i'm beginning to have doubts here if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.


24 Jan 2013 21:41:34
You seem to be forgetting Daniel Sturridge and the good work done there.


£10m for an unproven 20 year old is not good investment.

He has done nothing to suggest he has large potential apart from play well at an Under-20s world cup, sign for Inter years ago and be Brazilian.

Aside from the usual video games he cannot be rated very highly for us to offer £10m.

Ben Rose


The kid had the potential to be a real talent m8! You have to gamble on his potential and hope his poor form is only based on confidence and game time, which I actually suspect! Coutinho has all the tools to be great, which was shown at Espanyol!

Ryan Whittington


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:31:45
Hey Ed, Quick question about Muniain. How many years on his contract does he have left at Bilbao and do you see him moving anytime soon including Liverpool?

Cheers Alex {Ed001's Note - it runs until 2015 and it is hard to tell, depends on if he keeps himself in line or not.}


Doesnt he have a rotten temper?

I wouldn't want such a bad attitude on the pitch if I am honest.

Ben Rose


Have you payed attention the the Llorente transfer saga? They've made it clear that they aren't going to let players go cheaply


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:29:54
Eds what is your views on xabi alonso returning to the club ? {Ed001's Note - I wish.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:25:55
hey lfc fans


i didn't know until now..that ian ayre had a different position before......and now I see why he is so pants at his job

can we please buy some damn powerful players...with some pace or strength...i hope we don't flood our team with tiny flair players........

oh man we need a new negotiator at the helm

i think every fan on this site would do a better job

red lobster


24 Jan 2013 21:44:37
Red lobster you don't know what your talking about. Didn't I Ayre renegotiate all the new contracts and sign D Sturridge. What more do you want? Another Commoli who signed any old mug.


You mean like Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Sterling, Agüero, Tevez, Silva, Mata, Hazard, Cazorla, Kagawa, Marin, Scholes, Lennon, Defoe and Walcott (all 5'6" to 5'7" 65-67Kg), or maybe someone tall and big like Suarez, Lucas, Rooney, Bale, Nasri, Oscar, Dembele, Ramsey, or Moses (5'10"-5'11" 70-80Kg)?

SpudRed


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:21:03
Why all the talk of Butland... has anyone watched him play he can't handle championship... whatd he going to do here? ....


Agreed, if reina is going to go then for me it's gotta be the Celtic keeper Forster. Young, good all round and Wouldn't command a huge fee or silly wages. His champions league performances have been top draw!
Matt29


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:02:40
ed or anyone who has read it i'm in the middle of reading "i am the secret footballer" and was wondering does anyone know who this guy is? i'm thinking its kevin phillips for some reason if you read it he says he didn't go through the academy football and was picked up later on which am I right in thinking he did? anyone with any ideas would be greatly appreciated

jayblair89


Geoff Horsfield?

BJH YNWA


Ian wright ?


25 Jan 2013 03:37:10
Bobby Zamora


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:42:12
I have got tickets for the Swansea game in Feb but with them now in the Cap1 Cup final have you any idea what the club will do in that situation.
I'm travelling over from Ireland so I will need to change flights and hotels.
Thanks in advance for any help.


My mate was booked to go the west brom game but it was changed to the Monday night so he paid 130 to change his flights to the Swansea game instead and now that's changed as well, he's like an antichrist, make sure if your changing flights to do your homework before paying to change them mate!
JJ


You will still be able to use your tickets at the re arranged fixture.


Having previously been in this situation you are basically going to be out of pocket. No problem with the ticket as far as I remember but could be a different story with travel etc. The Hotel will probably do something if you are re-booking for the rearranged game but flights usually don't.


No confirmaton of date change yet.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 20:06:31
Eds was just wondering if ye have heard any updates on how the Coutinho is progressing or maybe the lack of progress in the transfer?

Thanks

Irish redman {Ed019's Note - Nothing since the last update was given}


What was the last update ed019? I'm unable to find it. Thanks a million for all the great work on the site!

Thanks

Irish redman {Ed019's Note - He is close to joining now}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:57:07
eds, red's.only 7 day's left do you think we will sell anymore player's ed ?.your take on that please, now we all know times are hard, but I still think we will sign 2 more player's in this last 7 day's come on liverpool.im thinking 3 in the door for this window would be great, I've still no clue as to who we will bring in and like all of us i'm looking everywhere for news haha.we have moved some player's on, are wage bill has been cut.and we have 1 great young player in the door at the min, i'm very happy with the lad sturridge a very very good signing for us.all in all this could be a very good window for LFC.cheers eds.jay essex red for life red till dead, as always walking on with hope. {Ed019's Note - I can see some possible loan deals out}


Have you ever considered supporting Liverpool in the after life as well Jay?


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:56:30
What are the chances of insua

Please reply {Ed019's Note - -9.6}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:45:10
Liverpool FC to sign Jeffren and maybe Isco with a combined price of £35,000,000 {Ed019's Note - No}


That is a absolutely riduclous statement for 2 reasons.

ISCO will not come to us as many current Champions leagues sides are after him including Real Madrid.

And more importantly. Isco has a release clause of 15 million pound which means you are telling me we are paying 20 million pound for Jeffren.

So to sum up.Nonsense.

Davey Sulls


Davey Sulls you are wrong, hahhaaha. Its more than 15 mill and its increasing every season ;P


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:04:43
I have heard other media saying Liverpool have interest in Ashley Williams...thoughts Ed? {Ed019's Note - Nope}


Ashley Williams? you gotta be jokin, what are we now Swansea city are we, ?


They guy who insulted our number 7? No Way!

Piledriver


He's off to Southampton.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:38:41
Ed002 are Liverpool interested in Luke Shaw from Southampton or Ben Davies from Swansea. Both players are left full backs where we need cover, so it would be an ideal move.
Cheers Ben


You are struggling to find money for Coutinho. No chance that you could find what would be needed for Shaw, who is not for sale, having just committed his future to Saints.


You're not getting luke shaw


Jose Enrique
Jack Robinson
Glen Johnson
Stuart Downing

Yea we need cover don't we ...

BigD


24 Jan 2013 21:25:08
well said big d. jIr63


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:27:06
Im not convinced that we will sign Coutinho and think we are playing a complicated game of Ducks and Drakes in an attempt to tempt Blackpool to sell Ince at more reseaonable fee? or to lure another target we may not have heard of yet!!

Just all a bit strange how stories conflict about Ayre being in Italy, not being in Italy, on his way to Lisbon or pulling beers in the Lisbon!!

Thoughts on a Postcard Please


Thoughts along this line could fit on a postage stamp, nevermind a postcard. We are not bidding on Coutinho in an attempt to negotiate To Mince's price.

SpudRed


He was at 20 Chapel Street L3 today around 11:00. I shared a lift with him so I know where he was today.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:31:28
hey ed's not an lfc question but what's your verdict on Hazard and that ball boy?? IMO he deliberately time wasted as he stated he would on twitter and over exagerates to the fullest extent even though Hazard made little contact WTF are the FA playing at and amazingly Bale is correct the ref got it wrong shocking decision. {Ed019's Note - They are both at fault, but no doubt I would have done the same as Hazard}


I agree with both of you guys on this, I initially only heard about the incident and I thought, god, Hazard kicked a ball boy, that's shocking. But when I saw it and heard the kid was actually 17 and saw him deliberately lying on the ball I was like, eh hang on.

Haha If Liverpool were losin and running out of time and a ball boy did that, not only would I kick the ball from underneath him, I'd run back to him afterwards and do an Eric Cantona on his ass

Kelly Red


I commented last night in defence of hazard and after finding out that the ball boy is 17 I stand by my comments 1, what's he doing being a ball boy that age 2, He said before the game on twitter what he was going to do. 3, He was actually crying!! if I cried for getting the slightest touch when I was 17 on tv, I would expect a beating off my dad. he should be ashamed off himself. at the end of the day his job is to get the ball and pass it back.

SB96


The lad rolled over like drogbaused too, it shows how all this diving is getting into the youth of today


Hazard is lucky the boy didn't press charges, following the actual law he could have been guilty of Battery. Chelsea and Hazard are in no position to complain. He not only broke FA rules but the legal system.

However the boy made the most of it, what do you expect? A player kicks at you and your idols include players like Messi, Ronaldo etc etc.

Ben Rose {Ed001's Note - hardly likely, by his actions the boy would have been considered to be provoking the contact almost certainly. Hazard was clearly unlucky that the little cheat was also a good play actor. I would be ashamed if that was my child, he would have been made to apologise for being such a knob on TV if he was.}


I agree they are both at fault, but I have to disagree with you Ed. The ballboy was being silly by jumping and lying on the ball but at the same time Hazard did actually make contact with his ribs. Not saying the ballboy is innocent but there was many better ways for Hazard to deal with the situation. However I think John Solako's interpretation of the incident was embarrassing calling him a 12 year old when he turned out to be 17!!


No one can really tell whether or not Hazard made contact directly with his boot to the boys ribs. Hazard could have made contact with the ball forcing it against the boys ribs

Bobbinred


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:24:06
Inter Milan just agreed a fee with Corinthians for Paulinho. Looks like Coutinho is going somewhere.


Yeah Southampton.


24 Jan 2013 20:42:52
Why would Coutinho go to Southampton? They'll be in the championship next season. Disgraceful how the club treated Adkins.


Saints will finish above Liverpool THIS season, so don't think your chances look too good then.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:17:35
Personally I would love to since in a red shirt as well as courtiniho (excuse spelling) I can also see us getting a defender, and potentially moving for a keep. I mean reina has made a lot of mistakes at his near post this year which isn't good enough. We are liverpool not QPR. To qualify for champions league you need a keeper that is big strong and willing to dive. Reina a few times this year had lacked that.

I see butland as a great replacement especially at a cut price however it may be a risk. I also see krul, vorm and woschezny. We then need a defender as I said LB is possible, we need to keep hold of Coates send him on loans but don't let him move permanately, he has a lot of talent and can become a liverpool great. He just needs the chance. As for the summer luis Suarez will not move, he has improved so much at lfc and he is still young, I believe he will be with us for a long time. He and his family have settled and he has a lot of close friends at the club. Overall I think that if we can being in ince, courtiniho, butland and a LB and maybe another stricter by the beginning of next season we can challenge the big the likes of utd and spuds.

Ed, what you think?
ClarkieRed


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:15:28
I, ve heard Atletico Madrid have enquired about Suso on loan {Ed019's Note - Suso could go out on loan to gain 1st team experience if Coutinho joins}


Couthino is considered better than Suso then?


Coutinho is leagues ahead of suso {Ed001's Note - I don't think so, the only thing he offers over Suso is pace, in every other respect he is not as good.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:07:25
Coutinho reminds me of Maradona

Marc


The argy cheat or the like a virgin singer?

leeb7red


24 Jan 2013 21:10:10
if he is that good, why are we talking 8-10 mil and why haven't the mancs Chelsea Barcelona or Madrid come in for him?


24 Jan 2013 21:49:17
If Coutinho reminds you of Maradonna you are clearly deluded. If he was that good wouldn't every team on the planet be after his signature.


Maradona? ha


He reminds you of a short fat Argentinian who was a football genius?

Should have gone to Specsavers (other opticians are available)


 

 

24 Jan 2013 19:01:39
eds

what is going to be happening with andy carroll is he returning to Liverpool or is he going to be put up for sale ? {Ed019's Note - Sale}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:58:01
hey eds I was just hoping you could explain how the table for the richest clubs is worked out, if liverpool are the ninth richest club in europe how is it we are struggling the find cash to fund signings.

REDi {Ed019's Note - Our wage structure before was stupendous, the club was losing money on a daily basis. }


Most clubs with issues are spending too large a percentage of their turnover on wages.


Out of curiosity, what is Liverpool's current debt? How does it compare to ManU debt?


Liverpool's debt is less than £50m as £200m was paid off by FSG when they took over.


The richest teams show REVENUE, this is the money made before anything is deducted. If it was PROFIT then the top 10 would essentially just be German clubs.

If Liverpool make £98m then they are spending about £120m on wages and all other costs.

Ben Rose


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:56:06
Strange that so far there are no posts screaming about us not signing Sissoko but allowing Newcastle to have him.Come on posters and tell us about another star we've allowed to escape.If we signed every player on sale I guess we'd have the biggest squad in the world.

The Plank


Give it a rest you utter tosser


24 Jan 2013 19:35:26
Hey The Plank have you got a big wooden spoon to go with that post?

ACHILLES.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:53:22
Hi eds great site I'm addicted!
Sorry to ask but when do you think the Brazilian lad will sign? The Tom ince saga has gone all quiet too, and why does it take so long for liverpool, to, sign players BR stated he wanted the business done early on and now we are entering the last week, so maybe all these rumour s about players is rubbish and we will, just sign one player even though everyone knows we need more and more quality, the top, 4 is achievable but unlikely I thought Rodgers would be pushing the owners saying get us some more quality in to the squad and we may make a big push if not I can't see it !
Opions please ed as I respect and trust what you say {Ed019's Note - There is no certainty that Coutinho will sign, but what he decides should be clearer by the weekend}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:53:09
£15m for Zaha haha If a show pony is worth that how much is a thorougbred like Sterling worth £30m ? {Ed019's Note - Crazy}


All this from old whiskey nose who thinks a cheaper sturridge (proven) as a gamble which has so far paid off in spades, good luck wilf but scott sinclair bells are a ringing!!!!.The bells, The bells........

leeb7red.


Compare the stats of Tom Ince and Zaha.

Compare the price of the two of them.

Compare the wages required by both.

Personally I would love either but surely if Zaha is worth £15m then Ince is worth the £5-10m they want. Plus the 35% reported deduction.

Ben Rose


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:48:00
Looks like Liverpool may have a brand spanking new Ferrari pulling up at Melwood soon.

jinga jinga


24 Jan 2013 19:35:48
It'll probably be ian ayre then. Spending some of his fat bonus from fsg for not buying any players.


24 Jan 2013 19:40:34
Why? Is chris evans visiting?


Are we signing Fernando Alonso?
Scouse_Pride {Ed019's Note - Nailed On}


Jinga jinga?

I thought it was spelt Djemba Djemba


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:47:01
any interest in benzia from lfc ? {Ed019's Note - Nope]


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:46:36
To the EDs what is your opinion on the LFC backroom staff which specifically handle the signings of players such as Ian Ayre?

This is because I feel that at times we look sluggish to move in the market, obviously it is hard to tell because we cannot see behind the scenes

Over the last few days Newcastle have signed 4 players, with a fifth in Moussa Sissoko agreeing terms whereas we have been in deadlock over Coutinho

Obviously the scenarios are completely different but would it not be fair to question them considering it takes us a long time to sign players whereas other clubs are able to sign players quicker than we sometimes seem to

Thanks
SR {Ed019's Note - I think he is a poor negotiator}


Good post SR, I tried to post a list of players on here yesterday that were bought under FSG ownership, With the odd exception you will not see a club in england lose that amount of money in 2 years. They might mean well but it is clear they have no knowledge about football, players and transfers.
damien commolli, now Ian ayre.. we seem to have a low valuation of players and won't move on price so lose out..they need to read this website because we constantly list young european talents that could be bought at good value yet lfc never look close to making offers for them.

I hope coutinho goes to saints because he should quite rightly think they wanted me more and showed more ambition to sign me as with dempsey.

FSG need to wake up and get some real football people at the club.
Dave


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:44:31
Wilfred Zaha: 5 goals and 4 assists - £15 million
Thomas Ince: 13 goals and 10 assists - £7 million
When put like that you can come to either of 2 conclusions.
a) Alex has gone off his rockers
b) If the Zaha move is being seen by many as a ground breaking buy for Utd then we should snap Ince up for £7 million, some of which comes back to us anyway so the cash offer would probably be close to £5 million.
BARGAIN?
I'll go with option a. Alex has lost it, however the vast difference in goals and assists between the two really makes you wonder :/
With one of the eds suggested a deal COULD still take place, it would surely strengthen us.
Whats the general consensus in here. Coutinho and Ince would IMPROVE us IMMENSELY.
RedSox69 {Ed019's Note - a)}


Stats don't always tell the full story, sometimes it's best to just use your eyes.
To me Zaha has skill and pace and could be anything alongside better players.
Ince looks a good player for Blackpool but how much will he improve if at all, alongside better players.
That's what my eyes tell me.
So for me their both a gamble and I wouldn't take either player.
kidmillions


Haha ed, a) for me too :)
And well put kidmillions, just goes to show that football is a very funny game after all right.
RedSox69


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:43:40
Not LFC related, but can't believe the uproar over Hazard and ball boy . Personally think ball boy has case to answer. One can understand Hazards impatience to get on with the game as time running out. I think he has been too harshly treated, ball boy should be banished and not employed again.


Just imagine the uproar & witch hunt had it been Luis, 10 times as bad. The Manc loving press would be in their element.

Leyland Wool


Give the ball boy the boot, you mean?
Rigsby.


He's employed by the Swans as his daddy is the MD, worth an estimated £42 million? He also owns a (5 star possibly 4 star) hotel in the centre of town. I am assuming his dad didn't want to press charges as he's a little embarrassed by his spoilt little scrotes actions. Made him look a right c**k!


He is only a kid & to be fair hazard is young & impetuous, think we all made mistakes at their ages friend.....
Paisley's genius


His dad is a director and he was only filling in for a young lad who couldn't get there because of the snow, YNWA Simonpw


Yeah, that won't happen. The 17-yr old ball boy is the son of Swansea Director Martin Morgan. Hazard kicked the ball anyway and not the kid. he shouldn't have done it, and was stupid. However, the kid came in their dressing room after the game, shook everyone's hand and nothing else is going to come of it legally. Except, I'm sure the FA won't miss a chance to jump on public opinion and slap a ban on hazard.

Side tangent; if Suarez had done this there would be a mod outside melwood with pitch forks and flaming torches for a week.

SpudRed


He didn't half look old for a ball boy, old head on young shoulders:
Ref should have give him a red card as well.
kidmillions


Irrespective of the time wasting by the personic ball boy - I'd have locked Hazard up there and then for assault - no provocation warrants a kick in the ribs like that - simple.


24 Jan 2013 21:12:00
Spud Red - would the mod turn up on a Vespa?


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:42:34
ed's do you think that we will put a bid in for Moussa Sissoko if we don't get Coutinho. {Ed019's Note - He's going to Newcastle}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:41:16
Hi eds
The betting has been suspended on Coutinho next club.

Liverpool were 2/9
Southampton 8/1

just saying expect news soon.
Chris


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:35:35
In other news Newcastle United has stunned the FA in moving to a new stadium in France just outside Nice. When asked about it Pardew stated "that were just skipping out the middle man" -McMenemy


Seems logical. The FA will veto it just like we couldn't move to Cadiz under Rafa.
Scouse_Pride


Shirtless geordies with beer bellies descending on Nice.
The mind boggles:):)
kidmillions


Other french players on the radar is a guy called joeyz bartonz bid of 20mill I've heard.

leeb7red


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:34:28
I have a feeling were not going to sign no more players which in my view we won't make champions league football yet again, which is not good enough for LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB. Kieron, s.wales


Hope I'm wrong though


I have the opposite view.
kidmillions. s liverpool


So we will sign more players in your opinion?


I have a feeling you are a overly hasty person.


Double negative, who are we signing then?

RobInRed


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:19:11
Newcastle have sealed a deal to sign former Liverpool target Moussa Sissoko

The signing will be announced within 24 hours

MJS


It's not the former Liverpool player..

Plymouth Red.


MJS said former Liverpool 'target' not 'player'.

Andy K


24 Jan 2013 21:18:15
It said former Liverpool target. It's not hard to read is it?


Plymouth Red, he says former Liverpool TARGET...


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:16:43
tonight The Times says Philippe Coutinho wants Liverpool ahead of Southampton.

James Pearce of Liverpool Echo says Liverpool have made a 2nd bid 9m Euros - £7.6m and are confident a deal will take place.

Ian Ayre held talks with Inter today and increased Liverpool's for the brazilian who would need a work permit if he joins the club.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:14:58
imagine the field day sky and the media would have had if it was suarez that kicked that ball boy. We would never hear the end of it. On another note does anyone else think that all this talk of signing this player and that player is all just drivel by ayre and fsg to keep the fans happy and that they have no intention of signing anyone. They just want to get more players off the wage bill. I don't trust ayre and have no faith in fsg there full of crap.


No, I think the back lash they would get saying they was trying to sign this player and that player and get non would be a lot worse then saying that they are not after anyone else.

FowlerGod.


Yeah, Jeff Stelling would be like a dog with a bone on Saturday the SAF loving knob


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:06:28
have closed the betting on coutinho???? What does this mean {Ed019's Note - Nothing}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:06:17
Sissoko cost Newcastle 1.8 miilion

Why can't we do business like that?

Thatracoonstolemybacon


We had this last season with Newcastle.. yawn!! demba ba, cisse blah, blah!


I think we want quality, not quantity.


My god DO YOU EVER STOP WHINING?
AnfieldUSA


 

 

24 Jan 2013 18:04:27
Newcastle strike again and sign another player!!

Are you taking note Ian Ayre!

Thatracoonstolemybacon


Newcastle seem to be panic buying some players. Do you want Liverpool to do that?


24 Jan 2013 21:03:04
Who cares how many people Newcastle have signed. Wouldn't have any of them at LFC. Plus, I hear a lot of people slagging I Ayre off but didn't be just pull off a great buy in Sturridge for good money. Also, read loads on here about Ayre being a poor negotiator hmmmm! Who on this site can say they've sat in on Ayre when he's been negotiating with other teams for players. No one so please shut up about I Ayre you don't know what your talking about.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 17:40:01
HII ED do we still hold any interest in BANEGA think VALENCIA are haying money probs {Ed019's Note -If Banega leaves Valencia in January then Italy seems a likely destination with interest from Fiorentina. Inter Milan has had a long-term interest in the player but they will focus on players for other positions in January.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 17:59:40
Personally I would like Coutinho.

It would form quite a decent attack with him and Suarez behind Sturridge and a midfield three of Lucas, Henderson(A man who is standing up to be counted, must admit I had written the lad off to early but his calmness in possession, passing and if carries on being a goal threat he could be an English Alonso!) and Gerrard is actually a good line up and one which could get us challenging for the top four.(back four picks itself !)


The English Alonso?
The White Pele
can we have a prize for the most ridiculous comparisons. Can any one beat these gems?


Don't hold your breath mate, I really don't expect us to sign him.
Jud.


The Spanish Gerrard
The Black Messi

How is this for a comparison? Or do you only consider certain types of stereotypes as been ridiculous?

Soritre


The White Elephant - Andy Carroll


24 Jan 2013 21:12:55
Why do we need BR when the twonk who posted that message can pick the team. Every fan thinks he can pick a better team. The back four picks itself, imagine if BR said that when he's reading out the team sheet. Haha!


The scorer Fernando Torres
Scouse_Pride


 

 

24 Jan 2013 17:27:53
Yoan Gouffran signs for Newcastle for around £1.5 million.I now eagerly await a flood of posts along the lines of "Another star we've failed to sign" from posters desperate for any new face.Over to you guys!

The Plank


It is shameful that we can't seem to compete with the likes of Newcastle and Southampton .............


Yeah, your a plank alright!


RD


24 Jan 2013 18:37:16
I think your name says it all and your at thick as two short ones.


Plank you plank


Gouffran isn't that highly rated in France, so we haven't missed anything.


24 Jan 2013 19:32:48
you should walk the plank

redtilimdead


 

 

24 Jan 2013 16:56:35
Afternoon Eds hope all I well.
Just wanted to ask yourselves in the case of our current situation with Coutinho who is in charge of upping any fee on a player? Sounds a dumb question, but what I mean is, if we are actually in Milan negotiating the deal for Coutinhno then what happens in following if you know.

1 we bid 8 million so with news Southampton have bid higher then would Ayre then speak to the owners regarding upping the fee ( if we wanted to ) or would Rodgers have a say in the am punt we spend on him.

For example we bid 6 million I think originally for him, but at present Southampton show an interest. With Southampton bidding higher (or even any other club with any other player) would this involve Rodgers at some point or would he have expressed how much as a max he would want the club to spend?

In this current situation would Rodgers have a say in say bidding more or equalling the rival clubs bid?

Jonesred {Ed002's Note - I would imagine Tom Werner hasd agreed a limit.}


Coutinho will be a liverpool player before the weekend is over. Whether or not it will be a good signing, only time will tell. It doesn't really matter anyway cause most diehard fans (and I include myself in this) were quite prepared to write this season off with a view at looking at the bigger picture i.e. the lon term stability and growth of the club. A few good home results and other teams lack of consistancy and we get goose bumps and shivers up the spine. We all knew the long term plan when BR was hired, so deep breaths, relax and if we get the coveted fourth spot its happy days if not then we can be safe in the knowledge that it was what we expected. So PLEASE PLEASE stop harping on about not getting x, why or z in a pointless (my opinion) transfer window. Sorry for sounding so negative but I'm seriously starting to get crippling headaches trying to remember the multitude of various names being bandied about. (Ahhh, that feels better.might have a cup of tea and an asprin now)

Fred


 

 

24 Jan 2013 16:29:09
People saying Coutinho will ultimately sign for Liverpool regardless of an accepted bid from Southampton need to get their s**t together! This happened with Ramirez 5 months ago, it will happen again with Coutinho this month. Coutinho will sign for Southampton. Take the truth in, however bitter it is.

TheDarkKnight


How many times !!!!!!!!

we did not bid for ramirez

you wally !

thewelsh


LFC did not bid for Ramirez I think you're the one who needs to get their sh*t together.

AsianRed


This never happened with rimirez.........we never bid for him!!!!!!!!

mr em


We didn't put a bid in for Ramirez so is definitely no the same. Know for info before you start with this pointless drivel

RedSpud


Why be bitter? - if he wants to get more money than we are prepared to pay and what we think he is worth then that's his prerogative.
As been said on here numerous times by numerous people - we want people who want to play for Liverpool, not Forren, not Ramirez, not Dempsey or Sigurddson - let them play for what we consider inferior teams ( rightly or wrongly ). Liverpool Football Club to me is an institution, that players can get a good wage, and the honour of playing for us. If they don't they are not " missed " targets, they are people we don't want.

John B


No not yet...

Bruce Wayne


Ramerez hasn't actually set the Prem alight has he.
We never bid for him anyway.
Sure you support LFC?
Not bitter are you?


Never use Batmans nick name for such pointless drivel in future please. You should have signed it... The joker.

Davey Liver


If he comes to us "great", good addition to the squad. If he doesn't "who cares" there are other good players out there, or our other youngsters get more of a chance.

If I was you I wouldn't worry so much about it.

IMH


Yes, why would you want a rubbish Norwegian? He could be as bad as Jan Molbe!!


Holy Saints
Robin


Jan Molbe was nether Norwegian nor rubbish, he was a Great Dane.


Jan Molby the Dane was one of our best players ever!!


Harvey Dent approves of the original post.


You never saw Jan MolbY play pythagoras in boots my friend
Paisley's genius


 

 

24 Jan 2013 16:28:01
ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAD SOME SOCIAL NETWORK UPDATES ON HERE

Ian Ayre has sent friend requests to Massimo Morratti and Carl Oysten both have been ignored.
Everybody (with the exception of Ayre) are now friends with Mansfield (they ignored him too).
Old red nose is no longer friends with big sam
Rafa likes big Sams comment The one difference between Rafael's handball and Spence's was that Jordan plays for West Ham away against Manchester United and Rafael plays at home at Old Trafford.
Suarez, stevie g, carra and sterling are now friends with sturridge
Gillett and hicks no longer like LFC, Martin Broughton or RBS
John Henry likes Martin Broughton and RBS
Andy carroll has closed his account
Alan hansen likes thunderbirds
Loric remy likes 'arry
Alan pardew in no longer friends with 'arry


Lol Quality. ;0)

Phooey...


Hansen like thunderbirds XD

HAHA..

Davey Liver


Materazzi has poked Rafa... again.

Pep has started cyber bullying Jurgen Klopp.

Ramos is re-tweeting every one of Iker's tweets.

John Terry made a friend request with Demba Ba's missus.

Brendan is only spending 22 hours a day on the David Brent Appreciation Society page.

And, seen as Alan Hansen likes Thunderbirds, so does Lawro.

El Pi**edolero


 

 

24 Jan 2013 16:17:22
Coutinho deal agreed, which looks like a fine pickup. Huge talent in this young man..

phillyred


Where did you get this philly


Agreed, think Southampton did a good bit of business, would have liked to see him at Liverpool.


From phillyred's head of course


 

 

24 Jan 2013 15:36:35
Sturridge cost 12m
Allen cost 3m more
Henderson cost 6m more
Downing cost 8m more
Carroll cost 23m more

Excluding contract, fees and wages think LFC finally got a good deal with Sturridge.

Nath


Thats a £100.000.000 wasted then ! FACT !

Much love


Those figures are really embarrassing too be honest


And what about all the players we sold etc.....


Only carroll is the problem buy from list above, hendo and allen will shine for us for a good few years and repay the big fees with performances on the pitch. if we get the form downing is showing up to now until the end of next season then his fee will not be such a issue.
carroll cost too much not his fault but he could not play our style of football be it under KK or BR. cashing in asap should be priority.

redjohn79


 

 

24 Jan 2013 15:59:51
So the mancs have beaten us to another future star, and don't all pretend you didn't want him now because this site has been flooded with his name past few weeks. lets hope he's a flop anyway although he looks like he will become superb imo


Zaha? I might have missed something but the site has just been Sneijder and Coutinho for the last week or two, you must be on the wrong page.

15 million is a bit much for him two in my opinion, not worried about him at united at all

K-Man


Well show me wher his name has been flooded. Ed01 has said that the scout report on zaha wasn't great so clearly, Liverpool and Rodgers didn't want him.
derryred


I know, staggering how we have not managed to get him ! Oh wit, we were not in for him, plus the fact we don't need him. In case you hadn't noticed we have better players at the club already that we have nurtured. He is decent, nothing more, nothing less, and certainly not wirth that amount


Just like Ashley young?


If you're talking about Zaha I'm far from convinced by him and I don't actually think he'll be good enough for the prem

Chris in Tamworth
(By the way Eds why didn't my post about Bob Paisley get through?) {Ed002's Note - I put it on the Questions page Chris as it was so large.}


Didnt want him, don't think he's anything special, jdog.


Personally I can see a brighter future for Sterling when he reaches Zaha's age. Within the next 2 years Sterling will be a lot better than he is.

FowlerGod.


Who Zaha? To be honest I'm on the site everyday and don't believe many of us are very high on him.. Sir Rednose said our purchase of Sturridge is a gamble?? How about this gamble he's taking on Zaha? What a confused old freak he is.


I come on this site several times every day and I can't remember there being any great desire from Reds fans on here for us to sign Zaha.


The lad has barely been mentioned haha! Clearly a manc causing trouble, young winger, is something we have covered and cover for at younger ages yeah I'm really sad we've lost out...

Swampmonster


And?

DaveyBootle


Do you mean Zaha the player that none of us wanted because he has no end product?

MR EM


As stated previously on this site Ince's stats are far better, in a weaker side.


Ok thanks Ed

Chris in Tamworth


Yet again - don't feed the troll!


Will probably see him feature as often as Scott Sinclair.. remember him?

RobInRed


I think he's got the wrong page fellow reds. Arsenal is that way ------->>>
RedSox69


 

 

24 Jan 2013 15:44:22
The Deloitte revenues table always makes an interesting read

It is amazing how we consistently remain in the top10 despite all our issues : dodgy owners / smaller stadium / lack of champions league

On the flip side it is scary to see how the top5 clubs and other clubs have managed to increase their revenues by so much
The gap at top is widening at an alarming rate over the last 10 years

I can see FSG working hard to see that our revenues continue to increase whilst keeping our costs in check

Hopefully we can make the top5 under the FSG reign in the next 2-3 years

Leam Red

Note : does not include selling players just Matchday / Commercial / broadcasting / merchandising / sponsorship revenues


Whilst we all want the club to continue generating large revenues lets not forget the main focus of the club- to win trophies. Otherwise we could become a well financed club which does not win anything - a bit like Arsenal.?


But, you have to consider the expenses side of the financial accounts.
Revenues can not be viewed in isolation.
Accountancy does not work that way.


Higher revenues allow clubs to be spend that little bit more on say things like player wages........

Leam Red
P.s I qualified as an accountant in 1994 so have a little idea of how "accountancy" works


 

 

24 Jan 2013 15:27:49
Belhanda of Montpellier is moving to Inter for 14m.
Does this mean that Coutinho will be free to leave?

Keep up the good work! {Ed002's Note - See several hundred previous messages - it relates only to the funding.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 15:12:53
What I don't understand is that if we do get a CB then why does one have to leave? we only have 4 CBs compared to other teams that's not a lot, taking in the fact that carra will retire or leave come end of the season that would leave us 3. because I remember Ed saying skertl might leave come the summer.

Great job eds {Ed002's Note - Agger, Wilson, Skrtel, Carragher, Kelly, Coates off the top of my head. Coady?}


Andre Wisdom is going to be an excellent CB.

SpudRed


Oh, and Sama too. Coady is a CDM tho'

SpudRed


To be fair Wilson has left on loan and Kelly is out for the season.

However why do we need more than 4? Our third choice barely gets a look in and Coates wants to leave, as the 4th choice never gets a kick!

Papa G


Ed02 ? What? Wilson gone, Kelly injured. If Coates goes out on loan and Carragher cannot play many games (still in 3 comps you know). How does this compare to other 'top' sides? Two recognised CB's ?? lets hope Agger and Skrtel stay fit and can play every minute of every remaining game in the League, FA Cup and UEFA cup without picking up 5 yellow or 1 red card.

Another round of applause to Ian Ayre and the F$G wallet.


Kelly is back in March. Wisdom can also play at CD.

Personally, I would be giving Coates more minutes too, but I'm not the boss.

He's 4th choice at best atm. Perhaps BR sees Wisdom and Kelly as better options atm. If so, he's 5th or 6th choice, perhaps loaning him out isn't such a bad idea.

Skrtel is never injured either. He is made of tough stuff.

BJH YNWA


 

 

24 Jan 2013 15:10:34
Spurs related, but.... How good is this Holtby they have signed for the summer? Never watched him play?

Im a pool fan by the way :)


The new pele


One of the better players in the German u21 side. Which is a GOOD SIDE but I would like to state that ozil & goetze were twice the players he is now when they were both in the u21 side. He can become good though.
AnfieldUSA


 

 

24 Jan 2013 15:03:36
15-17m + Pacheco for Adan turan they have striker and winger lined up and need funds to pursuit knowing they have to be fast and Adan wants a move in the summer anyway Pacheco will go out and loan in Spain for a future investment ed remember this name jimjoe


It might be more believeable if you new his name... Arda Turan... keep it in mine next time you make up a story

K-Man


K=man did you mean to say mind not mine !


Are you asking K-Man?


I typed mine instead of mind, haha you didn't know the players name you div!

K-Man


 

 

24 Jan 2013 15:03:25
ed..great site..and excelent work..
Where is the statistical analysis of Countinho..
everytime we buy a player...no matter what it takes..some fans here brings the statistical analysis to support and convince our signing..
best passer
best ratio
best dribbler.
second best look
3rd best hair style...
4th best troussers..
blaah blaah blaah..
ex..henderson..downing..caroll...and Mr.Joe allen...


Its the longest ever saga that won't happen in the history of football.

Sorry i'm a useless person, and my bosses are tight as a ducks arse.

Sorry again, Ian Ayre


You do realise that most top teams use stat analysis companies to first stage evaluate players? United, Citeh, Barca, Inter, Chelsea, Juve all use the same company. They also have their own in house algorithms too. It's quite common. The head coach or DoF set the player types desired and stats are used to identify players that need to be scouted by eyes on.

SpudRed


 

 

24 Jan 2013 14:40:49
Madness how papers and speculation ruin people's career if you look at suarez at Ajax were he won trophys but was easy that was a big decision why he came liverpool I think he new what he was coming to when he came here and there was a lot easier options to get champions league football and trophys?..... But going to agree if we played football like last year meaning how drained and weak the team looked he would of left. But Brendan's style of play and the challenge he's got around him could make him see different and would rather pursuit this challenge..... We're 7th in the league had an average start new manager new style of play accepting money loss. Come beginning next season champions league or not suarez knows big Rodgers been targeting is summer targets wich will work around him an I no there's no believers round here or in uk that why it 40/1 50/1 but liverpool challenging title next season. The owners approach to Brendan I think is quality he spent last year 100+m on a team wich was speculated more than the weather last year so why make fools of them selves agen instead they have tested the water with the manager and not spent to hastey personal oppinion since Brendan been back he has showed that in players ... Henderson we would of got 8 now we get 13 downing we would get 5 now we get 10 wisdom 1m now 10m suarez 40m now 70m sterling 12m now 20m are u21 u19 teams working amazing liverpool fc was always known for its stability in manager and players that's when they won trophies was like a big family the same way borussia Dortmund done it juventus done it mountpellier have done it eveyone close playing and happy what you Wrekin Edda we on are way back


As stone cold steve austin would say.... what? what? what


What would Kurt Angle say?

What?


 

 

24 Jan 2013 14:35:08
Why in the world aren't we going after Belhanda? No, we are funding Internazionales' eventual buy. Idiocracy.


24 Jan 2013 14:55:09
excellent post..one of the best...
Infact I too wanted to ask this question..
Ed..we are buying a player..who is unwanted by another great club...
actually we are fudning inter to buy Belhanda...
Y don't we bid for him..
Cracking player...


Did you watch Belhanda last night in the ACON? He was tripe. Another overhyped player.


Maybe we have and he doesn wanna come here, is that not possible. Who knows exactly who we have approached? We are not saying anything, so unless other agent or club says anything, it's all speculation and guess work. I mean, that's why we're on here every day innit lol, YNWA Simonpw


Didn't we buy Sturridge who was unwanted by a top premiership club? Look how that turned out so far


I have yet to see any really good players at the ACON - if I was a club scout I'd be at the pool with a bevy rather than wasting my time at those games


That Moroccan player, Assaidi, has looked pretty good in the ACON so far. We should buy him.

SpudRed


 

 

24 Jan 2013 14:29:38
i really hope our owners don't think after one signing(sturridge)that everything is going brilliant, coz I really felt to get anywhere near challenging for 4th spot I felt we needed at least 3players in this jan?


Is that you Brendan?

Danny.


Ha nah mate any1 can see we needed a few good players


 

 

24 Jan 2013 14:15:26
How many people have actually kept tabs on Couthino career, or suggested him before he became a target, before the past two weeks there was no mention of him nobody was begging for him like they have with the likes of Carvani and Isco etc, now if we don't get him we apparently doomed to mediocrity and blame FSG for not splashing the cash. Is he really worth 10mil or even 8mil. Suso is a much better footballer in my opinion and can play in the same positions he can, if we get him then best of luck to him I hope he is successful, if not I don't think we'd regret it the kid has to prove his worth 10mil, its easy to criticize when its not your millions at risk. Leem.


Does it matter if people on here follow him?

He has the obvious labels of the " next Kaka" etc, etc, Southampton's new boss rated him at Espanyol, hence their bid, I believe we have kept tabs on him for a couple of seasons.

Info will only be leaked at will from club, but we cannot control agents, press and clubs chirping up.

Suso is a totally different type of midfielder and player in general, both would play together in future.

They won't go over value for the risk involved, Ed's have mentioned possible loan to buy option, which would make sense.
Piddy.


24 Jan 2013 17:30:39
Bruno Cheyrou was dubbed the next Zidane (seriously), Bable was compared to Henry so was Cisse, before he arrived, I wouldn't worry to much about comparisons, Kaka is also a different type of player to him, as I said he does have potential and he would be an exciting addition, I hope he is success if he joins or not, my point was that if we missed out on him there are other players available at that price or on loan that are equally as good or better if we don't seal the deal. I just don't see the point in slating FSG if we don't get him, my post was aimed at the negativity surrounding every supposedly "missed target" and the notion that it shows lack of intent, just coz we didn't buy a player fans think is the next messi or kaka based on a couple clips on Youtube. Leem


 

 

24 Jan 2013 14:14:36
MAYBE THIS WAS NEVER GOING TO WORK?

Coates out of the door and Marko Marin wandering back into mainland Europe; the door opens for Coutinho and he thinks four times while Ince just holds on and waits for more money?

Sometimes transfers are just not meant to be either through total neglect on the part of the people signing them or reluctance on the player's part. I never understood why we bought Coates when we had Carragher, Skrtel and Agger. It would have worked out for the player if we'd played Coates alongside Skrtel or Agger at some stage(s) but we often appeared to favour Carragher when there was a need for a centre change. Who can blame him for thinking there isn't much of a future at the club. Yes, we need more than three central defenders, but didn't Coates think he might be given more of a run?

Aquilani was a similar sort of deal - we had Lucas and SG and AA was thinking "where do I fit into this?" In the 1970s Liverpool bought players and then deposited them in the reserves before they were ready to slide into the full squad. That all wafted away with the money and ambition of the PL in the 90s. Today players want instant game time and even stipulate that in contract negotiations. Yet ask why we won't slag off some players who want away and yet we have a paroxysm when some players want to leave a club.

The badge kissers and the "I'm here for eternity and three extra years" players who walk away the next season - they're the ones to get the flak. But why? Football is a job and when Walcott, van Persie, Torres and Coloccini want out, why not I ask? We seem happy to let Coates walk away, along with Downing and Henderson, but it's because it suits us.

The most difficult part of managing a team in this era must be keeping them all happy. Even Sir Ferguson can't do that. Managers have accepted that players come and go but it doesn't seem the supporters have. I said yesterday that I thought Suarez would be off in the summer. I still think that and yet when he goes, I'll say it's sad but good luck to him. Yet too many fans scream for blood and think a player's contract IS for eternity and those three extra years.

Liverpool FC will see some big changes in the summer and LS will be one of them (sorry to say that) as well as people like Downing, Henderson and Coates. But it's important to remember that some matches are not even made in heaven. LS likes Liverpool but it is just one stopping off point on a player's career ride. Some stay for ever (SG, JC, Giggs, Scholes) but I suspect the majority of players wander the football club map for short periods of playing time. That is not a crime to me. I smile when people call players Judas and spout bile because that player signed a 3 year deal and you know - after three years is up he wants to leave. Shocking! Boot on the other foot says "but when you sign for three years and they want you out after 11 months, do get the whole of your contract paid up?" Getting the point here?

We continue to buy players and then see some get frustrated and annoyed at lack of playing time. This is not the 70s and it will only increase as the pressures on the game mount. Was it not Sturridge that reportedly asked for something like this? There's usually smoke with any sort of fire. Perhaps this is the true value of a manager in keeping the divas happy and the fans calm.
7ER


I doubt that Liverpool will sell Jordan Henderson or Luis Suarez for a good few years.

Red Owl


Ignoring your seemingly smug superiority (which I apologise if I have unfairly red it into your piece, but it seems pretty evident to me) for the moment, has it ever occurred to you that it is the dis-ingenuity that fans detest?

Let's take Torres for example. Did we want him to go? No, but in the summer we expected it. We prepared for it and we waiting for it. And then Torres came and told us all that 'Dont worry, I'm utterly committed and not going anywhere at all'.

And then, just 4 months later when the entire situation was better and we actually had a reason to feel positive about the club again, that is when he demands a move. Doesn't have his head turned by a once in a lifetime offer, but actually demands a move. And THEN to cap it all off, insults us (and Athletico actually) by claiming that he finally wanted to play for a big club (as though we aren't one) and giving an exclusive interview to a newspaper that no-one whose ever been part of LFC should ever speak to, especially not then.

Had he done this when it was easily justifiable, when we were prepared for it and then been honest after the move (i.e. I see Chelsea as a better prospect in the next few years of collecting major honors). The lying, the ego stroking, the vague deflections and not so subtle insults to win over new fans are what really upsets the fans. If Suarez wants to leave for a realistic chance of the biggest prizes in the next year or two, or. Demba Ba left Newcastle without much animosity, very few hated Modric for quitting Spurs. It's the false promises and the utter lack of dignity that really gets the fires going, not the fact of the matter itself.

Oh and btw, your examples are long out of date - the players you mentioned after their rocky start are actually doing very well thanks


24 Jan 2013 17:27:35
What a senseless post, what's wrong with you?

Is this going to happen every season? "suarez is leavin in the summer"...what nonsense, you almost sound as stupid as Ed002.

Suarez was leavin last summer, now he's leavin this summer then it will be the next summer and the next summer, grow up man...Suarez is stayin for the forseeable future, any fool can see that.

Why would he want to leave and where would he go? He wouldn't entertain another EPL side, italy is a joke, germany doesn't seem to attract anybody outside of germany and he won't waste his talent in the french league with PSG...there really isn't much choice so unless madrid or barca happen to have a spare 50 million plus all the fees, costs and wages that would be needed to afford Suarez, especially given he has just signed a long term contract, then I don't think he's going anywhere.

See what happens when you apply some common sense? Makes everything easier doesn't it. Suarez is not leavin liverpool for at least 2 seasons beyond this one, despite what the beacon of knowledge ed002 may have you believe.


He will leave you fool, how can you not see this?He wants to win trophies, not sit mid table.How many years has it been since a a league title was won?Be another twenty years.Stop kidding yourself you muppet.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 14:06:23
So much for 'we haven't got much money to spend' Got Sturridge, trying to get Ince and Coutinho. Total it will be 27 million for this transfer window.


Erm...Spent £12mil which should have been done in the summer is your memory that short? Do you not recall how we were left with nothing on the last day instead of covering Carrolls loan?

How much else has been spent? Got targets...And?


Believe it when I see it


Yes but how much have we shipped out the last year or 2?torres, babel, bellamy kuyt, maxi, they're just a few that come straight to mind!


 

 

24 Jan 2013 13:52:58
Hi! Eds: I know every club in the Premier has their own Rumours and Banter page. My question is this "If there was a rumours and banter league, who do you think would top?
kidmillions

{Ed002's Note - In terms of:
Number of users: Liverpool Easily
Best informed users: Probably Arsenal (but they are going backwards)
Best banter: Probably Manchester United but they have lost a lot since Blair started work at the Lamb and Vulture)
Most abusive users: Liverpool
Worst spelling users: Celtic
Tallest users: Aston Villa
Most overweight users: Liverpool and Arsenal tied
Users with the longest toenails: Spurs
Users with the best prawn sandwiches: Chelsea}


Can we send a raiding party to Chelsea's page for sandwiches?


Just so proud to be top:):)
kidmillions


This is the best post and reply on here to date :)


Most opinionated, most beautiful & only trthful Ed - Ed002

Nath


Ed02, if Arsenal are going backwards as best informed users, is there a chance we might overtake them? what can we do to become better informed? Is this the fault of the owners? Also, if I stop coming on here, will it affect the tie with Arsenal for most overweight users, and leave Arsenal top on their own?
important questions.

BigBadBen {Ed002's Note - I think there would be several other clubs before you got to being Best Informed. If you do stop coming I am pretty certain Liverpool will not be the most overweight anymore Ben.}


I'm sensing a satirical post in the horizing abusing Ed02 for putting us as the most abusive.
derryred


Kidmillions, how old are you ?


RD


We are so poorly informed, we don't even know which team's fans are more informed than us. Case closed.

Is the sandwich raiding party back yet? I'm hungry.


Living up to your name there Editor 002!

Clever!

Nath


 

 

24 Jan 2013 13:42:48
Eds fellow reds, how come when the words transfer and Ian Ayer are in the same sentance it all goes peck tong


What like say

Sturridge!!

Think of a new one


Pete tong = wrong what's peck


Ian aire is a waste of time if you ask me,


You say Sturridge. I say remember the summer? Sturridge was meant to be signed then.

What has Ayre done apart from clean up his mess from August ??

Thin squad just gets thinner 1 in 3, soon to be 4 out.

Nice job


Only signed a huge shirt sponsorship deal!

You can't even spell his name!

Mark


 

 

24 Jan 2013 13:06:39
Hi eds,
Do you see any resolution in this Coutinho drama today or anytime soon. Hope he signs for liverpool looks quality just needs to stock up a bit but only the same as raheem.
Thanks

Perth Red {Ed002's Note - Soon.}


Why do people always harp on about players "stocking up" or "being lightweight for the EPL". Have none of you seen Silva, Hazard, Mata etc?
Jeez...


The English league top teams going are obviously going towards smaller, skillful, more mobile, and talented players.

And look closer to home, Little Raheem is way under sized looking like a boy playing against men at times but he's a fighter and uses skill and movement to play and play well in a physical english league.

Coutinho may or may not do the same, time will tell should we sign him.

SpudRed


 

 

24 Jan 2013 12:55:42
Not player related, but can Liverpool please make a move on whoever does the transfer business for Newcastle, Southampton, QPR or whoever else can actually get business done swiftly.

Ayre OUT !


There all in the bottom 6.


Bottom six, but for how long? They've all improved their squads and we have a much smaller squad but are expected to compete in 3 top competitions.

We need to strengthen for UEFA, FA and to get top 4. What has Ayre done?

Less then a week ago he has just cleaned up his abortion of a summer window which left us without a striker - hence Sturridge arrived day one - its a left over summer deal. Ayre has done nothing but miss targets for over 3weeks !!!


Dense.

Hopefully for the last time; In Dec, we looked to loan Sturridge as we were not totally set on buying him. In the meantime, Rodgers talked with him and lots of his coaches and peers, decided he had the correct mentality as well as talent and then wanted to buy him. So, Ayre/FSG/LFC did buy him and signed him about 45 seconds after the Jan window opened.

SpudRed


 

 

24 Jan 2013 12:35:58
Ferguson was suggesting that it was a gamble signing sturridge for £12m, but he's more than willing to pay £12m (& that'll be with out the add on's) for Zaha. Think we got the better deal since sturridge had premier & champions league experience & Zaha has only played in the championship. He's all dribbles & flicks & no end product. Be gutted if Liverpool spent the money on him that Utd are about to spend.


Bebe was a gamble lol

LAVERS


& veron, djemba djemba, kleberson, bellion, andersson & carrick was 18/19 million no-one gets it right all the time not even a knight of the realm.....
Paisley's genius


It's all just the mind games of a sad old man who think they still work on everyone. Just like his abuse of referees, linesmen, or anyone else to disguise the shortcomings of his 'wonderful' team. I'm just pleased we have a manager who is rather more honest. Hilarious to see the term 'fergie time' being universally applied to any unwarranted extra time that is conjured up by browbeaten officials.

ND


Dont forget Berbaflop!


Carrick is a very good player.

The Irish Rover


After Yaya and Ramires, Carrick's the best in the ''Prem'' at the moment, in my opinion and exactly the kind of player we need.We did well to avoid that money grabbing no-mark(his name escapes me for the moment, oh well) and Coutiho(again, only in my opinion)is no better than Suso, but would be a good acquisition. Carriick has the right balance of vision, tenacity, youth an experience, this is what we need in our'' big'' purchase this season.!! Uglygeordiegenius


 

 

24 Jan 2013 12:33:30
i know that as LFC fans we are entitled to be judgemental of our squad but can everyone just get off allen's back, aswell as downing, both have shown what they are capable,
Allen showed why BR wanted him during the first couple of games he played for us, then he lost his way,

Downing was the opposite - he started bad but seems to be coming good at a time that we really need our current squad to perform.

if lucas was shown the door when so many LFC fans wanted him out, imagine what a gem we would have lost, he needed time,

although football players (the skilled ones) show at times their super human ability and excite us with passages of play that we never would of expected, we need to realize that they too are human, everyone goes through a bad patch.

Our squad is coming good, now we just need to continue with mommentum and if any other players are added they must be brought in to add quality to the rest of the team and not becuase of their individual quality.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 12:30:53
Exclusive

LFC have put in a bid of £10m for Smo kescreen and he will sign in the next 24 hours. They have been heavily linked with him over the last few transfer windows but seemd to opt for other players at the last minute.

A great signing in my opinion. Hard to pin down and great at drawing attention away for other players. I have a picture of him arriving at Melwood with his agent Fab Ricator.

Crazy Horse


Ha ha, like it, very nearly googled him lol


Crazy Horse pack it in please or you might find yourself in a burger!


 

 

24 Jan 2013 12:21:52
If paulinho is better than coutinho, why not buy paulinho instead.
Or is he too 'pricey' for a big club like liverpool? i'm slightly frustrated actually over our transfer 'policy'. not that i'm saying that we should splash millions on players, but can't we for once actually get our target without it being sntached from other clubs. Brendan's targets are by far better quality than Kenny's imo.

{Ed002's Note - So regardless of Liverpool having no interest in Paulinho, and regardless of his price, you think Liverpool should buy him. Rodgers' has done very well getting his targets - Allen, Borini, Sturridge, Assaidi et all all in five months.}


Paulinho is a center midfielder while Coutinho is a playmaker/winger


 

 

24 Jan 2013 12:14:34
Am I missing something or has the world gone mad. MU pay 15 mill for Zaha, we are struggling to get Coutinho for under 10 Mill and yet Spurs get Holtby for 1.6 Mill?
I am baffled.


There is no logic in football transfers, but every deal is different and depends on club, contract left etc etc etc I'msure Eds would not like to try and 'stack' one deal p against another and try and compare. Though you can fee free to do so Eds?

On Zaha, is the MU page full of people complaining about paying over the odds for an english player Eds? Or is that comment been trademarked by this page? Any complaints about the MU owners not understanding football? :)


 

 

24 Jan 2013 12:07:31
Please forget Courtinho signing as this will not happen. Liverpool will not pay over the odds for a player that is not English - Southampton can have him as I am sure he would prefer to play for his previous manager anyway I reckon this could be another Aqulani episode even though he is Brazilian.
Personally I don't think we will sign anybody else un this window as the owners not keen to spend. All I want to do is finish above Everton and I wish the experts and other people would stop this talk about finishing 4th as it will not happen especially after the Arsenal and Man City results to come - two defeats.


With that attitude mate you walk alone


24 Jan 2013 13:03:37
You don't get a trophy for finishing above Everton you know!


Nice and optimistic there, a quality fan.


24 Jan 2013 14:06:14
negative or what !
wolvo_Jake


 

 

24 Jan 2013 12:06:32
Am loving the WonderdogSparky updates Ed002.
I wonder if someone is having fun winding us up, and also who Ian is? Care to shed any light Ed002?

Thanks.

WelshBoyDave {Ed002's Note - There should be sufficient hints to identify nearly all of the characters. I fear the return of an old character later today. There has been a sighting at John Lennon Airport.}


Any telling who the old character is Ed002? {Ed002's Note - It seems it may not be until tomorrow as I am rather too busy to help them out with their spelling.}


Shame I do enjoy the stories they tell


 

 

24 Jan 2013 11:58:46
I feel 4th spot is in our grasps but only way I feel we will get it is to win our next 3 games to be in with a chance but after them 3 games we will have to do very well in the rest of the games I think we can only afford to lose 2 games to be in with a shot at 4th I am happy with the way we play all I think we need not is a out and out attacking midfielder would be perfect personally I can't see us getting 4th but I will be happy for 5th - 6th and I feel next season will be a hole new ball game just hoping we can hold on to Suarez for another year till champions league football is back home
Hammbone.


Currently on 34 pts, 16 games left. Max points possible 82. So, if we drop 12 points (say lose 2, draw 3, and win 11) then we have 70pts (same as 3rd last year and 2nd the year before) then we'll be solidly in the mix for 3rd-4th place. Big ask, but not impossible with a good run of games. A result against Arsenal and/or Citeh is key. We'll see.

SpudRed


 

 

24 Jan 2013 11:40:31
Is alan pardew secretly French ?

Redman


To be honest I always thought he was French because of his surname. Cheers

ZA13


Should it not be allan pardeaux.....


He does Sneer! a lot. Which is a French trait..
kidmillions


Be careful the secret police also known as the FA patrol the internet these days, just ask suso, they are a lot more dangerous with their 3 signings shrek, who plays up front for united, darth vader - I'll leave it there as I don't want a fine and hipp o'crite an irish man who has hit many teams unfairly.

Lil Red {Ed001's Note - I always though hipp o'crite was a Scottish guy with a red nose who has a morbid fear of people kicking balls?}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 11:37:17
Was reading about Coutinho, he said that he is very quiet and doesn't socialise much and is constantly guarded and watched over by his family.
Jeez! He's only 20 he needs to get out now and again and socialise. Liverpool would be perfect for him? Outside of football it's a wonderful City and the girls? Best looking girls in the World (she's not looking over my shoulder anymore, she's gone to make a cup of tea:)) little bit flannel, gets things done:)
Anyway back to the girls, Coutinho's family won't be able to protect him from Liverpool girls ( I once had a girlfriend that could climb up the drainpipe and into the bedroom 10 seconds after you switched your light off) there very adept at getting what they want. I wished I could sit and talk with Coutinho I'd tell him everything he needed to know about Lfc and the City.
Southampton wouldn't stand a chance.
kidmillions

{Ed002's Note - I am from California kidmillions and I am pretty sure the Beach Boys explained about "our" girls. And of course my wife is milling around today so I would not want to be caught saying anything different.}


24 Jan 2013 11:59:50
The mystery unravels, Ed002 is either male or in a civil union.
WelshBoyDave {Ed002's Note - There is no secret that I have wives Dave.}


On a serious note wouldn't that leave him fully concentrated on football. Think about it if you don't have a girlfriend at that age and you don't really go out then all your whole world would be football. He'll become awesome


Ed002 is female no doubt about that! no male is as touchy and prone to P.M.T as ed002. watch this. Hey ed002 any news on coutinho ?


Male, California born, multiple wives... I've got it. It is so obvious now...
Ed002 is Snoop Dogg {Ed002's Note - Not CA born, Bellevue WA.}


Seriously, Liverpool Girls have not done Everton's Fellani's career any harm:):)
As for ED02; We now, know where he get's his "Sunny Disposition!" from :)
kidmillions


Coutinho would be fine as long as his English is up to it and he didn't expect applause from the Liverpool girls!


 

 

24 Jan 2013 11:08:44
Just a thought really. I am sure Coutinho is a very talented player and would prove an asset but I thought a player more in the Sissoko mould was more important.I see Sissoko is pretty sure to end up at Newcastle now, but there you go, we cannot sign them all.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:57:04
Apologies as not strictly Liverpool related but just read that Newcastle's new signing, Yoann Gouffran is allergic to grass! Love it! Maybe Ac will be heading back there after all!

Red Mist


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:55:29
I have a feeling Ian Ayres is going to be shown the door this year, because of the poor results in the summer transfer window and again in this one.

By insisting on not paying an extra 2m for Dempsey he lost the player, and thus possibly lost LFC the half dozen or so goals he would've scored, and the extra 3 or 4 points they would probably have by now.

By asking for a 'training trial' for Forren rather than making a bid based on scouting reports as usually happens, he apparently lost the player.

By using standard but very time-consuming negotiation tactics with Inter (and open the bidding at an unrealistically low price), he seems to have just wasted a week of everyone's time.

He seems to have acted as if he was totally unaware that Southampton were very keen. Surely he knew that they were very likely to offer slightly above the asking price, and secure the player with a single bid?


FFS - Ian Ayre is an employee/pawn - he will have a remit from the owners exactly what to pay in fees and wages for every player - they are businessmen, and understand financial responsibilities - probably on recommendation from BR's valuation and other footballing people.
Dempsey had a value - we wouldn't meet it, and almsot certainly not Ian Ayres sole decision.
Forren was never going to be a starter for us, he had more chance of that at Southampton.

Get real - blame the hierarchy as a group, not an individual, it's no different that blaming the team as a whole when we don't get a result, rather than point to one mistake by one player in a game.

John B


Unfortunatly john b, the manager always gets the blame even though most managers don't pick the fee some managers don't even pick the players but they are the face of the club. Now ian is in the line because saint rodgers is too perfect lol


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:50:24
i don't get people who complain that LFC is not competitive enough in the transfer market, if LFC pay over the odds for a player then the owners, manager, scouting team get smashed about for not doing good business, just look at the comments about Henderson, downing, cole etc, then when proper resolve is done in negotiations for players then people say that we should pay the highest value for the player so the likes of SOTON and Spurs don't bazinga our deals,
lets not forget that football is more than a round ball, it s about generating a profit, you do this not only by winning games, selling tickets and merchandise btu also by buying young talent on the cheap and selling them on later in their career (if they wish to leave) at a much higher price tag.

LFC players are not only a assest but also a product,


For me its not so much that FSG should spend more money as such, because of course they have to spend wisely.

What bugs me are the tactics of taking up half the transfer window to make a couple of cautious low bids as we did with Dempsey, and then getting outbid by 2m at the last moment.

It is effectively an auction, and the top bidders usually wait until near the end to show their hand- just as Southampton have done.
They clearly value the player more highly than LFC do, and good luck to them.
But when the price difference is just one or two million, and a particular player can offer goals and PL points, surely you have to sometimes go over your valuation, because in the long term the payoff will be worth it?
If playing Coutinho meant us getting a few extra goals and points, and somehow getting into fourth spot, then I think it would be worth paying an extra five million for him.
But is he really that good?

The only strategy I think will work with the current financial constraints is to find low quality and low profile priced players like Michu, that nobody else is going after.


There's a difference between buying quality players for a high price, and just average players for a high price. Who would you like to buy : Falcao for 40, Cavani for 35 or Carroll for 35?. I know who I don't wanna buy..

Chris


24 Jan 2013 11:56:32
Can people stop banging on about Dempsey. The deal Fulham wanted was over priced for a 29year old. Plus his wages were too high too. He's a good player but too pricey. I like the fact that Lfc are playing hardball with transfers. Keep it up Mr Ayre.


Oops- I meant to say above we should try to find good quality but low priced and low profile players, like Michu.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:38:40
Hi Eds. There is one week to go in this window.

At the start it was clear we needed to finish the summer deal of Sturridge. Done.

BR clearly stated we have a thin squad, we need depth. F$G have clearly stated 'we have money' 'We can compete in the market with anyone else'

We have paid off Cole, Sahin and loaned out Morgan with Coates possibly joining him out on loan.

Squad gets thinner. One week left, do you honestly see any more signings. They want progression, Champions League football but keep reducing the squad.

Any more signings or is it another disappointing window and will it be, yet again, 'Wait until the summer, a lot of things will happen, Liverpool fans will be excited'...? {Ed002's Note - Your expectations for January were perhaps rather too high. Whilst some of the fans hang off every word and re-interpret everything the likes of Werner say you need to step back and see it in context. However, I don't think signings are complete just yet.}


I agree, I would rather have not let Cole and Sahin go until the summer if we are not going to get any more players in, they may have both been on high wages but if we are not spending them elsewhere at least they would have contributed to the squad with europa, Fa cup and PL games to come up?


Remember that things are not as simple as we fans make it to be, you need to plan ahead, and the fact that sahin and cole were offloaded now means that we have a lot of ambition for our summer deals, if we waited for the summer to get rid of cole and sahin then we would of been at the mercy of the clubs that were willing to take those 2, which would mean that the negotiations with the targets we have in place for the summer would have been put in jepordy as we would of been, so to say, shopping without our credit card.

also come the summer there are some contracts of existing players that we will need to extend, the only way you can do all of this is have a proper startegy in place and you have to be thinking one transfer market in advance, your winter business must be done taking into cosnideration what you have planned for the summer,


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:37:46
Going to put it out there..

Am I the only one that doesn't want Coutinho to sign for us?

Personally I think he's massively over rated and over priced

Just because he's Brazillian, everyones expectations are sky high..


Thoughts?

Apples ;96;


I agree. I don't think he will suit the club. I'm not saying he isn't a good player, he just doesn't have it for me. Inter fans want him gone, no other big team is in for him, he is not playing regularly, seems a tad lazy. I'd rather see Henderson, shelvey or suso play no 10.

Daveevad


24 Jan 2013 11:58:27
I'm not really convinced either, its tempting coz his Brazilian with some flicks and tricks and we all know how much we've always wanted a skillful Brazilian, he does show allot of potential, it depends where he plays really, I think he might add options to our squad but as a number 10, I'm sure there are other players we can afford with more impact on a match. Leem


If the fans think Allen / Sahin / Suso are all a bit weak for the EPL - then god help Countinho for the stick he is going to receive every time someone blows his off the ball

Leam Red


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:29:05
hey I think liverpool will achieve more than we we are expecting this season


I initially expected us to challenge for the title.. then down to 4th place... Can't see us above that at the moment... but really, what are you expecting?


Maybe 7th place instead of 8th


I think with the two Manchester clubs and Chelsea probably 1, 2and 3, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool will complete the top 6. But in what order? Anything lower than 6th would be a major disappoinment. Whatever else, we need to take points off Arsenal and Spurs when we play them and try to keep our present level of consistency. I for one don't mind losing the odd game if we keep winning the majority - this league is pretty punishing for teams who draw a lot of games. I don't expect either Spurs or Arsenal to just 'drop off the pace' (I expect this to happen to Everton) - it'll be a dogfight right to the end if we're to have any chance and we need to start by winning at Arsenal, something we don't do too often. My heart says fourth (especially as I'd be gutted to lose Suarez) but my head says 5th or 6th and goodbye Luis!

Belfast Pete


Tragically Pete, I think you are right.
I'm hoping he stays, but he's given us two seasons already and we haven't gotten any higher up the league.

If we can even get fifth place and we put in a really strong finish, he may decide to give it another season- but he couldn't be blamed if he went looking for CL football.

Its such a shame that in years gone by, he is the kind of player who would have figured in title and trophy winning LFC sides, but today we can't even get into the top four, which is all he really wants.

Some players like Nasri are ruthless enough to leave a top 4 side like Arsenal, to go to a side with a real title winning chance, like City.

Suarez would probably have been happy to stay if we were playing in the CL, but it looks like this season, yet again, it isn't going to happen.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:28:57
May I remind people getting too excited that people supposedly itk were also confident of Dempsey arriving, don't hold your breath lads.


If Liverpool don't match Soton's bid, then we won't get him, simple as that. Just because we have history doesn't mean we can bid 2m lower and get it accepted...

knightza


Knightza.

In fairness.

Hypothetically. Let us say it is now Jan 31st and we have offered £2m less than Southampton, yet Coutinho insists he will not move to Southampton.

It is not unrealistic to suggest that Inter may consider Liverpool's bid as being a more viable option under these circumstances.

BJH YNWA


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:22:04
looking at the youth u21s I think and conor coady really stands out should get a loan to lower league club or a run of games in the cup


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:13:37
Hi reds and eds, I've been watching Ashley Williams at Swansea now for some time, and impresses me hugely, superb defender reads the game very well and is so comfortable on the ball, with Rodgers links with his former club I think a cheeky bid for the lad would be great and he fits the bill of this pathetic buy young policy the yonks seem to want. {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what a "cheeky" bid is.}


They are in their 1st ever cup final and BR has agreed not to bid for their players for 1 year unless someone elses bid gets accepted. I'm sure given they are prob favourites neither swansea or williams would consider it now. Summer might seem to be more credible in my opinion depending on europe, position etc YNWA Simonpw


Ed the 'cheeky bid' is usually followed by the 'smokescreen!'

dannysmillions {Ed002's Note - Thanks Danny.}


Ashley Williams is 28, where does that fit in with fsg's policy.
Huddz red


 

 

24 Jan 2013 10:02:34
Not a rumour just thought I would post this as I found it interesting in the papers.

Liverpool currently 9th in the table off income last year!

Chelsea, Manchester United, Manchester City and Arsenal only teams ahead off us from England. It's not all doom and gloom we are still up there and without champions league football


 

 

24 Jan 2013 09:58:49
why don't liverpool go after zaha and who do you yhick will come in


Because Zaha is way over- rated and over- hyped.

BrisbaneLFC


Maybe because Utd have more money, will pay more wages and are currently top of the PL - simples really.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 09:38:46
Southampton aparently pushing through a deal for Couthino is very frustrating, FSG have said on several occasions that we can compete with any one regarding transfers.
Anyone apart from Southampton that is, they are compulsive gazumpers!!
I know there is the FSG 'model' BUT If we really want they player, please FSG sign the player, stop this embarrasing competition with Southampton for all our targets.


24 Jan 2013 10:45:02
you are getting it wrong...
It all started with KK spending over the odds for downing, hendo and caroll...
FSG cannot repeate this again and again...
And honestly we can't blame them..can we?
after 120 mill spend in two season...what actually we have given them back..
more losses..
No CL, No guarantee for atleast one more season...
We should have been wise from the day one when the new owners were reasy to splash the cash...

IF their sons or grand sons would be playing football high up...they would have never spend 20 mill on downing...
only blind fools will spend that money on 27 year winger..

should look to sign Another striker with 8-9 mill...

YNWA


All of our targets?? Really?

And if we enter a bidding war and end up paying 'over the odds' people will, as always, be queing up to have a go at FSG for not understanding football. For always paying over the odds for players. A poster earlier said they can't win, and that is exactly right!


We have already lost out on Couthino, Liverpool argue over pennies, while other clubs sign the players. Inter are never going to want to sell the player to us when Southampon are offering what is after all a reasonable amount of money for the player.

This is just repeating the Dempsey and Siggurdson fiascos. It won't be long before it affects the clubs standing and reputation with other clubs. Its just so small time from Liverpool, very embarrassing indeed. If Liverpool keep acting cheap and tacky. don't be surprised if we are perceived as cheap and tacky by other fans and clubs.

Jed


Sorry, but I am not getting it wrong
I fully understand all about KK and Comolli overspending on Hendo, Adam, Downing etc etc. What I am saying is that IF this is a serious target, why all the messing around for the sake of £1m or £2m. I trust FSG and mostly agree with their thinking, but to lose out for small amounts is foolish - in my opinion anyway


Is £1 - £2m a small amount?? It seems rather a lot of money to me!!

CoolhandLFC


Jed, what's embarrassing is that fans such as yourself and others, continue to fail to grasp any comprehension of the financial aspects and implications of running the business side of Liverpool Football Club. The fact that LFC are continuing to make losses running the club year after year and the fact that FSG have to cover these losses before splashing out on players and wages, and the fact that FSG place more importance on the clubs financial self sustainability than they do on splashing out millions on wages for players like Sneijder, means very little to the posters like yourself that simply don't have the mental capacity to understand the implications of poor financial management.

BrisbaneLFC


Brisbane get your head out of the clouds lad

Jed


Brisbane tell Fergie all about those financial aspects, I know united are in debt, but they easily can make their payments. I'm sure old purple nose could prove a flaw or two in your reasoning. His club is a money making machine and ask should yourself why? Their football club wins trophies to maintain their super high profile status, it is a huge business that generates massive revenues by utilising United's persistent success on the pitch to their business advantage.

They know investment in the players that win trophies is a key requirement, and that may seem to cost ineffective to you. But a winning team breeds stature and Man United are reaping the benefits of investing their ever growing stature. They get better sponsorship deals and merchandising sales, these monies in turn help pay for any upgrades required to the club. If United keep winning their revenue will keep increasing and they will remain the most attractive team for new fans and business deals in the Premiership.

By contrast LFC are investing in potential and will probably sell any player at a later date for profit. Liverpool will eventually be Arsenal like, run safe, have decent business deals and make reasonable profit, but they will not be very successful. United have it sussed we haven't.

Con


I don't agree with the Utd have it sussed. They are carrying a 800m debt. A few dry seasons and it could be all different for them. I would like to see the Pool managing a debt well within our grasp and not promisory notes that will be called in at some time..... {Ed002's Note - The debt at MU is nothing like that amount.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 09:28:55
Not a rumour as such

Hi Lads, just noted this morning that Liverpool are ranked in the top ten revenue earners in the world. Unfortunately this list does not give the expenditure and the profit/loss. Looking at Arsenal, United and City ahead of us, it is plain to see that the Anfield capacity has to be extended fast. We are €40 - 50 mill behind Arsenal and City who in my opinion would not have a fan base like the pool. If FSG are serious about their new application and building, then there will need to be some lean and some shrewd business done from within the club. In other words forget about marquee signings for the near future.
Also I have always believed that we should ground share with Everton, given the close links that both clubs have to each other not to mention that such a move would be beneficial financially allowing both clubs to develop their squads knowing that some of the overheads are shared.


Some good points, except for ground share, that idea just sucks!

Jed


I personally think a ground share makes sense. We need to improve capacity and Tranmere are crying out for a new stadium. Happy days.

Taffytel


 

 

24 Jan 2013 09:19:47
Starting to think that some of the people on here either have had a silver spoon inserted from birth or have a money tree in there back garden.

When any one any where wants to make a purchase they find out the price, if it is within the limits of the money they have available then great purchase away, enjoy new purchase whether its a new car, tv or a new player for your team.
If however the item is out side of your budget you have 2 choices, walk away save up till you do, or try and bargain the price down to what you can afford. So you either get the item or you don't. You may even get the item for less than originally expected this a bargain.

I take it like me a lot of people play fifa or such games and build the best team they can, I play ultimate team, I would love messi in my team, but I ain't got a million to spend on him, so do I sulk in a corner and stop playing? No I look round and build a team for less, same principal FSG are working to, we are working to a budget, funded by what our team earns and what the owners help with.
Sorry to go on but some people on here need to realise that not many teams have bottomless pockets, and for the ones that do things don't always work out. Best example I've seen for years, michu 2 million, Torres 50 million andy Carroll 35 million, if you hadn't seen any of these play who would you be happy with, you would assume that the higher the price the better the player.
Either some of you are blind to what the players " we have missed out on " haven't done so far or you are part time footy fans.
Every one is entitled to their own opinion but sometimes you have to think about what you say especially if its going to be posted on line.

Sorry for rant, I love this site for rumours and banter but when every other post is complaining about missing out on players or not paying enough it winds me up.
I'm actually starting to really believe in FSG and there business sense for our future. Patience

Lofelongred


Michu was an absolute bargain. But I think you might have to buy 10 x 2m, 3m or 4m players to unearth just one Michu? If your lucky. So when you factor in? Chance, Wages, All fees concerning transfers? You could still end up spending 30m plus. You gave 2 bad examples of spending a large amount on one player.
Better to identify absolute talent and pay for it? Suarez, Silva, Aguero, Mata, Hazard, Rooney, RVP and there's more were all bargains as everyone of them players imo were guaranteed to be successful.
kidmillions


Agree all better examples of bargains, was trying to point out that some people on here complain constantly we have over spent on players then complain we won't bid enough, was trying to point out that the higher the price doesn't always mean a better player. A player is only worth what a Team is willing to pay.
Lifelongred


 

 

24 Jan 2013 00:55:31
hi eds and fans, a question for ed001 please is pepe leaving and to where? hope you are your daughter are well. thanks
hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - I don't believe that he will be leaving in January, impossible to say beyond then. Thanks mate, we are both well, though she is growing up far too fast, getting calls off boys to meet them for a coffee. Ugh. She may be ready for that, but I know I am nowhere near ready! I need at least another 30 years to prepare myself for her growing up. How are you and your family mate?}


Can't wait for him to go, frankly the lad just isn't interested/good enough, either way we need to get shot asap.

Burps


 

 

24 Jan 2013 09:12:38
Can I respectfully make the suggestion that, come 2015, David Cameron p****es off and takes over at Man Utd when Ferguson calls it a day.
That way, if he wants to take them out of Europe, he will have my support all day long !
The Juicer


I wouldn't even subject the mancs to that flash mug. Lol

MIKEY


 

 

24 Jan 2013 09:05:30
Most english clubs will always pay over the odds for english/british players, but that dosent mean we should pay over the odds for young foreign talent with potential mainly because they usually take time to settle in our country and take time to get use to the pace of the premiership, we put enough expectation on young english players with high price tags. Also fans cannot have it both ways with regards transfer ploicy just because another club wants to pay more for a player it does not make him worth that much they are probably more desperate to get him, as has been mentioned on theses pages LFC have some wonderful talent coming through the ranks bringing in more 'potential' could hinder their progress, so IMO I think we should bring an experienced player (and I don't mean a money grabber, happy to be bench warmer) who would just be paving the way for our up and coming talent


Nah mate, we are just in the process of been out muscled by Southampton, it the norm for our club now, we are becoming regularly out maneuvered by other clubs in regards to transfers while we haggle and stall other clubs place acceptable bids and make deals.

Jed


So I take it Jed that you are happy to pay over the asking price for players? It's not a case of being out muscled as you put it, more a case of we alue a player at a certain price.....if Soton want to pay over the asking price that is there prerogative.....I'm sure if we overpaid everyone would be moaning about that too!

CoolhandLFC


 

 

24 Jan 2013 08:59:07
Hi eds. A lot of people seem to be wanting a sporting director fpr some reason but closer to the pitch, are there any rumours in bringing in new coaching staff. I for one would love to see Roy Evans back at the club in a coaching or asst managers role {Ed002's Note - The board has looked toward brining assistance in.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 08:52:57
Its amazing how Newcastle can tie up 3-4 transfers in 48 hours and with Liverpool every target turns in to a transfer saga. I think there is only one person to blame and we will continue to loose out on players while Ayre is at the club.

Red raj


Ayre is the new Rick Parry.Red PG


Newcastle are desperate mate. If they don't get bodies in fast, there'd be a real chance they'd get relegated.
I'd rather be in our position than theirs, so stop talking bull.
The Juicer


Yep then there was Parry then comolli, remember when he nearly blew the Suarez deal.

Other than them all being inept could it be that Lfc is a big club & other clubs try and inflate players transfer fee's.

Jimbob


24 Jan 2013 12:44:18
Of course Newcastle really moved fast in snapping up their first choice Centre Forward target... Loic Remy. They got him signed up so fast he was able to play for them the first weekend of January after the Transfer Window opened....

Oh no, hang on wait... no sorry.. they tried to sign him and ended up losing him to QPR... my mistake,

silly me - I thought Newcastle were perfect in the transfer market like you said.

This is not on a Playstation or XBox, this is the real world.

Thomas


 

 

24 Jan 2013 08:20:28
Just a quick question, I have tried to access the Liverpool website this morning but it just keeps sending me back to the first page. Is this a sign that they are holding it ahead of a major announcement or am I just being hopeful?


I've found LFC website to be fine this morning, so if I was you, I would not hold one's breath...


Maybe get your computer looked at mate lol

MIKEY


 

 

24 Jan 2013 07:11:59
morning ed, s
am I right in saying that if saints say offered 15 mil and the lad doesn't want to go play for them then inter will have to accept the lower bid from lfc. {Ed002's Note - No, they could keep the player.}


24 Jan 2013 10:42:03
means we have to up our bid to 10.2 mil?
no ways...I wish we should spend that money on another attacking midfielder...
Since Joe allen is not doing good...we can't keep spending more money on the same exact position..
9 mill for germio...would be ideal...another striker...
at the end ..only striker scores goals...

YNWA {Ed002's Note - Perhaps you and all of your friends should gt some Liverpool shirts with Germio on the back. I am certain they will attract the attention of the press and therefore the player (well known as a Liverpool fan) will no doubt join.?}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 07:08:31
I've included my email so you can let me know why my rumour was posted and then removed. I would understand it not getting posted at all as no doubt you are busy but to put it up and then take it down strikes me as strange.

1970Red {Ed002's Note - I have no idea, one of several Eds could have removed it for one of numerous reasons - perhaps it was attacting abusive mail. We are not able to enter in to discussion regarding it.}


 

 

24 Jan 2013 03:16:57
The Mirror ( for what it's worth ) is reporting interest in Ashley Wiliams. The same guy who "wanted to knock Suarez out" Should we read anything in to this, could the two work together, or is it a sign that Suarez could be sold for profit ?


 

 

24 Jan 2013 03:10:53
hi eds,

just wondering if anybody knows why we are so interested in coutinho ? don't know a lot about him because, he doesn't get a lot of game time for milan so he can't be that great...am I right in saying he plays in an attacking midfield role..

lfc89


Because BR thinks he can add to the team.

mgz


 

 

24 Jan 2013 02:44:22
So it looks like Ayre has pooched another transfer that BR and the club wanted. I understand not wanting to pay over the odds but the difference in amounts looks more like ineptitude then hard bargaining.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 00:55:54
eds please post and reply, IF we were to sign coutinho, could he play in europa games or not?
thanks in advance {Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

23 Jan 2013 22:46:42
This is to Ed002 with your in depth knowledge and the way things work in the world of football

This isn't a whinging, moany question/point..

What I want to ask is with regards to Ian Ayre, what is your honest opinion with how he is dealing with Liverpool transfers, especially this season, correct me if I'm wrong but does smell of incompetence, naivety? Do you feel we need some real experience dealing with transfers? (When I say "we" I don't mean collective "we" as I know your a Chelsea fan)
I'd appreciate your honest thoughts..

Cheers

Ray

{Ed002's Note - To be honest Ray I imagine he is in a tough position with all of the money that has been previously spent with a primary target of a Champions League place not being attained. Someone needs to go to the main board and justify not only why it hasn't worked, but why this fresh approach will. There is a recession on and folks want to see money that is spent being spent well. Did the £30M net spend in the summer give a real improvement? I don't know that it did. For January I expect constraints. The bids for Coutinho have floundered and given his lack of experience, lack of recent game time and how keen the Inter fans are to see him leave - there needs to be a practical spending limit on him before a line is drawn. I don't know Ayre at all and as is oft the case folks are keen to accuse without sufficient detail.}


For me weare in a difficult position.

1. We cannot afford the quality we need.
2. Not sure we could attract the quality we need.
3. With the money that we get/have from player sales/wage cuts to spend we can only afford the players we hope turn out good and add to the side.

Ayre cannot be blamed for the money constraints.
FSG have to take stick on the money spent as well as they appointed Comolli, try new his track record.

The simpe fact is these days as a club trying to become a force again with little money we will continue to go through players and waste money in the hope we get a quality bargin.


Good answer ed. RedTurk


Thanks Ed002, I appreciate your thoughts..

Its not so much not spending, its being linked to players and it either taking weeks or someone else getting them (I understand its not football manager) and all I can do is compare to other clubs, ie Newcastle were getting desperate, and then boom, they get players 'just like that'
Qpr, sign someone who a few clubs were in for, again just like that
If I pick them as its 2 example of teams who can't offer champions league football, that need players and seem to be getting players and value for money...
I understand about not paying over the odds, I think its really good but I'd of thought we would of been more assertive with our signing are targets..
I hate to say it but look at Chelsea, they are assertive, how do you think they would fare if it was Ian Ayre dealing with their transfer negotiations? {Ed002's Note - I think you answered a lot of it with your "it's not football manager" comment. These things can take time. Chelsea have had the same problems as Liverpool and in some cases much worse. Alexis Sanchez stretched out all summer 18 months ago, as did Cavani this summer. Efforts recently are proving a struggle - so I don't see this as an Ian Ayre related issue.}


Hello all,

Lets consider the H&G era where Rafa (I respect the man for what he did at LFC, but then facts are facts) signed these big players who want to come in for huge wages, and with exorbitant transfer fees. We all know what happened next. We were on the brink of administration - majorly because of the 2 yanks and partly due to bad transfer policy.

Did we all not learn something from that? No.

Ok fast forward to KK, where Comolli screwed up transfers by paying exorbitant money for the players that were second to what KK wanted. KK wanted Young, we got Downing for the same transfer fees. (Love the king, would have loved to see him here for 1 more season, but thanks to Comolli, he was blamed.) Finally, Downing is showing some return on his money.

(*Not mentioning Carroll, because his price went high because of stupid Roman and Alan Pardew. The simple deal for Torres was Carroll + 15million)

Did we learn something? Not yet.

Lets consider summer 2012. Sigurdsson wanted huge wages, so went to Tottenham. What has he done there? Does he start or sit on the bench. Atleast Joe Allen filled in for Lucas and earned his wages on the pitch and not on the bench.

Dempsey we lost for 2 millions, what has he done at Tottenham - 4 goals, we waited for January and bought Sturridge the first day, the guy has already scored 3 goals.

Now can you see something about patience and not being held to ransom, or paying players for sitting on the bench like Joe Cole for 3 years or Aquilani.

I am happy with the way we are telling our clients, you know where to go if you do not give us our price. I like this approach of patience and stinginess with FSG. I only hope that this patience is also shown towards BR and the players have respect for this patient and sensible approach too.

mgz


24 Jan 2013 10:50:19
Get a grip mate...
Torres and caroll sales are different...absolute different..
we sold torres for 50 mill..but we purchased it for 22 mill...meaning..we had a profit of 28 mill...
28+7 = 35 mill we bought caroll..
can we read such way?

Dempsy...is a good player...he is not getting a game at SPurs...
sturridge will start all games for liverpool and he will score..
Spurs play 4-4-2..with lenon and bale at wings...defoe and adebayor upfront...where would you accomodate depmpsy?

What are you saying mate?


 

 

24 Jan 2013 00:42:21
Hello eds, just seen a new story on tv that refers to a "Deloitte Money League". I think it shows how much we earned last season? Anyway, we're 9th and just under £50million above Juventus. Now if it is money that we made last year, without any European football then how come we can't compete with the likes of Juventus and Chelsea? Just wondering if you could clear this up for me because I don't know what to make of it at all. {Ed001's Note - it is turnover, not profit. It means we have more money coming in, but our outgoings are higher so we don't have as much to spend.}


That was a revenue chart mate, deducting costs bring you a profit. Which is why FSG want to increase revenues in any way possible also reducIng costs in the process i.e. joe cole and the like off our wage bill even if it meant paying them fat cheques. It means the long term future of the club is stable and hopefully, the profits made in the future could be used more wisely.
RedSox69 {Ed002's Note - As an aside, I would expect that teh £50M in the original post was meant to be £500M and it is the value of the club and not the turnover last year - it is also an out of date number.}


Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity. aklfc


 

 

24 Jan 2013 00:34:38
Coutinho will loose all street cred if he signs for Southampton,
bet he signs for us for less. Lets face if, you won't pull many chicks playing football on the beach in Brazil in a Saints shirt,
- may as well be wearing a Rooney face mask.


24 Jan 2013 07:45:38
Mr Coutinho is a happily married man, he will not be interested in " pulling chicks"

Thomas


Yes, but if you play for Saints you won't have your Ferrari hot wired every week!


This sounds like the Jeremy Kyle show with Thomas as the Christian relationship counsellor.

DaveyBootle


As an LFC fan, it makes me a bit sad to see our fans arrogantly disrespecting other teams and towns like this, especially when LFC still have it all to do, and to prove.

Coutinho won't lose any cred by signing for Southampton. That doesn't suit us, but from his viewpoint it might make more sense, because he's still very young. He'll get more PL starts and more playing time there, and he can better develop his game better than he would by fighting for a place at LFC.

If he turns out to be the player they think he will, then he can move to a top four side in another year or two.


 

 

24 Jan 2013 00:28:42
WE SHOULD FORGET COUTINHO AND GO IN FOR FREDY GUARIN...

Ronillz

PS butland is not a ready replacement for reina... David Osina from nice in France ... Guillerme ochoa .. Neto from fiorentina are ready replacements


 

 

24 Jan 2013 00:10:19
Seriously am failing to get our transfer policy. Over pay for Allen then under offer for Dempsey and Coutinho and lose out on two quality attackers.

Now we are likely to lose out on a seriously talented player for a bit of penny pinching, knowing our rotten luck when we play them again Coutinho will score the winning goal..marvellous.


Yip an dempsey is playing out of his skin so glad we did not get him in the last few transfer windows for every player that we so called lost out on none of them have done FSG all to get a place in our first team
red rrab


24 Jan 2013 07:07:15
i don't know about dempsy...but we did payed a lot awful money on allen..who is actually worth less than countinho...
one season doesn't make you a xavi...


Couple of bad games, doesn't make you a bad player.
kidmillions


A couple of bad games?


 

 

24 Jan 2013 00:00:43
AAnnoys me how another team always takes players from under our noses, we need to be in with a big offer or look Into other players, why are we focusing on one player?!?!?!?!?


Rubbish.. Pay what is necessary or move on with other alternatives!

Chaki


Which other team and which player?
Only one I can think of is Dempsey, and to be fair to FSG glad they stuck to their price as what has he done at spurs so far?
And what do you call a large offer for a player who has potential but struggled so far?
And what other players would you go for in January?
Activate brain not xbox button on fifa before posting

Lifelongred


 

 

23 Jan 2013 23:57:20
{Ed052's Note - I feel for Ed002
______________________________________________

Clearly you should stop this Ed052, it is unhygienic!

See I can work like the Mirror!

Shall I sign, na you know who it is!


 

 

23 Jan 2013 23:50:23
i think we should sell skirtel I think he's not that good replace him with michale dawson of tottanam


Ha ha ha cracker


 

 

23 Jan 2013 23:50:16
Has anyone seen the LeBron "Liverpool" Nikes? Beautiful sneaker.

Bruce Wayne


They are awful, they show some sort of griffin rather then a liverbird


Horrible trainer


 

 

23 Jan 2013 23:48:19
I understand that a club does have to be prudent etc, but it does seem that with the current degree of prudence, we will pretty much always be outbid as long as there is even one other club in the running.

And if we spend a week or so on each deal, it means we only have time to make three or four approaches during the January window. Given that with some players we can't even start our approach till halfway through (because of waiting and dependencies on other deals etc), I think we are at risk of running out of time and not getting any of our targets.

Surely it would be more sensible, if we are never going to bid a much as other teams, to only shortlist players where we can be sure there is no other serious interest?

We must have known there was a very good chance Southampton were going to come in for Coutinho, and that we would therefore almost certainly be outbid, so why bother making an approach in the first place?

It just seems like a bit of a waste of time really, and in all his faffing around on making bids and deals that are clearly never going to come off, Ian Ayres impresses me less with each passing day.

TC


If ANY player chooses to go else where for money let them go, we need players hungry to prove a point.
Daniel Sturridge, wasn't sure at first but he has come to us said the right things and plays football to prove himself, not just to improve his bank balance. This is the kind of player we need, not an over priced player who plays for a pay cheque not caring who pays it, and why should we pay more than the fair value just to buy a player, would you pay £10 for a loaf of bread? No because you no it ain't worth it.

Lifelongred


 

 

23 Jan 2013 23:47:50
So yet another player wer'e about to lose to another team, why the hell are we so slow?


 

 

 
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