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24 Jun 2013 22:49:01
Is there any truth in the Russian 'sources' saying HM deal complete for 20m?
Great sight, reading since this was just football-rumours with ed, ED and Ed
A reply would be great if you have time
Dr Dirkus {Ed002's Note - No.}
24 Jun 2013 22:18:47
Is it true mingolet is having a medical eds?
Thanks
Jlk {Ed002's Note - Just awaiting the cough.}
The Jewels was Funny - is this not Banter?
24 Jun 2013 21:54:17
I've just been told Liverpool is the best team in the world! I believe it. YNWA. Great site Ed's-do you think 17 mil is a big intent shown by LFC so far! or may be 1-2 major signing required for CLF this time round.
Cheers ED's great site.
The toffee hater. {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}
24 Jun 2013 21:20:00
Eds, if or when mignolet signs for us .do you think there will be much more activatiy from Liverpool .or will that pretty much wrap up the window for us {Ed001's Note - possibly/probably a couple more, depending on outs.}
To Ed001. Don't you think we need another cover for cb even if skrtyl stays?
Ynwa {Ed002's Note - The assumption remains that a deal can be done for Ilori.}
24 Jun 2013 18:04:53
Ed001 what do you make me Honda's recent comments with MK looking complicated might be a good cheap option and could use suarez money to strengthen the team dramatically {Ed001's Note - I haven't seen his comments sorry.}
24 Jun 2013 21:33:07
Heard a rumour about Shelvey to Villa/Norwich/Fulham in coming month, making room for a move for Honda on a free.
24 Jun 2013 21:25:47
A quick thought: Garcia, Arbeloa, Reina all brought to Liverpool before becoming Spain internationals. Alonso and Reina Became regular Spain internationals because of their performances at Liverpool. All were bought relatively cheap.
I want to see people get behind Alberto and Aspas, Liverpool will bring the best out of them!
Aspas is too old by now to get into the spain squad. They have plenty better youth players.
Excellent post mate - Nail hit right on the head. We have to give these lads a fair crack at the whip.
PL
Alonso and Reina were both well capped prior to joining us. I haven't even bothered looking up the others, but maybe you should in future.
Alonso was never a regular starter for Spain while at Liverpool, yes he won caps but he was never a regular starter, he only became an integral part of the Spanish side once he joined Madrid.
Reina has been a regular squad member but very rarely starts.
Read the initial post again. He didn't say alonso and reina we're not well capped before joining us, but that their subsequent performances cemented their places in the national team.
No, and I am direct quoting here, he said: Garcia, Arbeloa, Reina all brought to Liverpool before becoming Spain internationals
The key word there is BEFORE. Sigh.
Reina got his first start the summer he was bought by Liverpool, it was a push but it's true.
25 Jun 2013 01:19:33
Actaully del bosque has said that aspas was unlucky not to be in his confederations spain squad! Maybe now he's at a big club (and yes, we are still a BIG club, just incase the haters r on our site), del bosque will see how well he performs and who knows, could be playing in brazil next year! But I really hope aspas, alberto and who ever comes in, is given a little time to adjust to the new surroundings! I haven't seen much of either, but r last 2 signings turned out decent, people let's not forget how well sturridge and couthino did, we will have a great season especially if we can start the league very strongly, has our first few games are definitely winnable, momentum is a wonderful thing!
COME ON REDMEN, Jft96 Y+N+W+W
Yep del bosque mentioned aspas's name and said that people can question why he wasnt in. I think michu was mentioned as well with 1 or 2 more players. {Ed052's Note - Aspas is very close to a Spanish call up, and, a few goals for Liverpool and he will egt one. VDB has started to play with strikers again (Soldado etc)}
24 Jun 2013 21:13:49
Hi eds
Just wanted to ask apart from wisdom if their any other competition for Johnson, he had some excellent games and some shockers. I do hope BR brings in some competition. Also I think llori will tried in several positions because of his pace.
Thanks
Sajid {Ed052's Note -Kelly. }
Hey Sajid, RB is possibly the strongest position we have in terms of numbers. In comparison, our backup for Lucas is Spearing/Coady, our backup for Enrique is Johnson/Robinson. If we have spare cash this window I'm sure these positions would be considered more important.
RB backup we have Wisdom/Kelly/Flanagan/McLaughlin and Wisdom and Kelly can be considered proven quality imo not just prospects, Flanagan very solid a Phil Bardsley type player and McLaughlin a good prospect. RB is very well manned
24 Jun 2013 21:13:51
More news tonight about stadium expansion on Echo web site, but no actual plans just statements from
Ayre and the council.
24 Jun 2013 21:07:12
Eds if madrid could choose between suarez and cavani who do you think they would choose and if Liverpool do not sign mahithryan is there someone on they will target instead
Thanks
Basy {Ed002's Note - It is not necessarily a choice between the two. There is plenty of other interest in both players.}
24 Jun 2013 20:57:48
So Mignolet is set for medical on tuesday according to bbc
Personally I am happy about this one
gareth
Yeah me too. Think the competition will be good for both of their performances and if Pepe chooses to leave between now and next summer, we won't be at a huge loss or held to ransom prices.
24 Jun 2013 20:14:29
Just reading posts about BR wanting to sell hendo for wanyama. I seriously hope this isn't true because I think hendo is a top player and will be world world class one day. Wanyama is a decent player but very rash in the tackle, has bad passing and hasn't got the right temperament. BR is committing a huge mistake if he does go ahead with this.
Share your thoughts eds and fellow posters
Young Baller
I wouldn't mind selling skrtel, shelvey, or downing to make room for wanyama but I highly doubt Henderson will be sold.
Agree, don't think it will happen though, Henderson showed vast improvement last season, and with the attacking options being brought in, when used, I hope it will be in a more central position. With Stevie, Lucas, Allen, Henderson and hopefully a bit of sparingly used Coady, we have plenty of existing cover for the central midfield slots.
No, that ain't true.
Rogers won't sell Hendo, look at his performances at the end of last season. He's coming of age now.
ND
24 Jun 2013 21:01:24
I really doubt it's true mate:) Henderson will go nowhere:)
[The only REDS]
Well if it's true that the Liverpool Manager, wants to sell Henderson after the lad worked his socks off all season, to convince him that he's good enough to be apart of our squad.Well if I seen the Liverpool manager, walking around the local supermarket, I would walk up to him and say"HOY, YOU RODGERS, NO!"
Frank Doberman
And you'd be right Frank
Dave's dog
I'd really doubt this is true. Everyone appreciates the work Henderson has done and it's paid off he's after a very good season he's a promising midfielder.
I would like to see Wanyama join for backup/rotation for Lucas mainly but even Gerrard could do with the odd game off every now and again. I'd agree with Nabungatoko I'd sell those 3 but only Shelvey really relates to CM. Downing I think we've now signed/will sign enough better players that we won't need him. Skrtel is kind of separate though as selling him would have to fund a CB now DM.
Henderson IS up for sale because we want 'Micky' to play that role. He will be used as a back up unless someone offers what we feel he is worth.
25 Jun 2013 06:33:42
Mkhitaryan will replace Suarez. Henderson is NOT for sale, stop going by your fantasy football game it's getting ridiculous. Even if he doesn't start each game Henderson is and will be a Key part of our squad for years & years. Darn you nameless bitters & mancs.
[The only REDS]
I would love Mario suarez for DM personally may I asked ed052 what he thinks of this guy? {Ed052's Note - The Athletico Madrid guy/es AM guy? I would rather go for Medel, like Ed001}
24 Jun 2013 19:52:23
Hi ed52 just read your blog. A good read and I agree with everything you put. For me the team will be a 433 sturridge centre with coutinho and aspas either side and a midfield of Gerrard Lucas and mickey if we get him. Like you said there's plenty of goals in this team. Regarding Suarez I think he is top class and even though he scored a lot of goals last season he is not a clinical finisher. Sturridge is far more clinical in his finishing. Him upfront with so many creative players around him he will get chance after chance. got to be worth a shot at 16/1 to finish league top goalscorer.
Gax
I'd rather have Luis Suarez than Micky, Aspas, Toure and Alberto all together.
I agree, great blog ed52 and lots to be optimistic about, the great thing with it is that, as well as quality we have serious completion for places, the capability of a very fluid attack (harder for other teams to mark players out of the game), and depth for covering injury's/suspensions etc. To the second poster, without those options, what do we do when Suarez is missing for a 1/3 of the season like last year, great player, but in terms of being able to 100% rely on him, total liability.
Sitting in the stands after biting a player?
24 Jun 2013 21:42:21
Iago Aspas will surprise a few and become a fan favorite at anfield next season.
[The only REDS]
I'm hoping Aspas will be more Luis Garcia than Antonio Nunez for Liverpool.
You'd shunt coutinho out wide when he did so well in the middle toward the end of season? I think he's earned that spot myself. His talents are wasted wide
Nevada
24 Jun 2013 19:24:39
Hi eds, is there any truth in the rumours that have been flying around the web tonight about a £20 million pound bid for Henrikh Mkhitaryan? {Ed002's Note - From whom - is this Twitter again?}
Panarmenian.net used a Liverpool transfer update page as its source.so think about that for a second and ask yourself if its true? The answer is no!
RyanWhittingtonYeLgATO
24 Jun 2013 19:31:05
think we should sign that tightrope guy who crossed d grand canyon . he mite be d one to bridge the gap 4 us . ;-). tumbleweeds . on a serious note! honestly people asking 4 torres!, think about it the guy will cost 20 mill. to that effect we would have bought him twice for a combined fee of 43mil, just sometimes think guys! like I didn't on that joke lol. i'd rather go for soldado at the same age and let's face it he's better than torres and doesn't sulk . torres needs to be put out to stud( he's lost alot) on one of michael owens stables. same calibre of people, trully awful the pair of them
5 gold stars
24 Jun 2013 19:46:11
Are you saying that Torres and Owen are awful? Maybe you should have thought about that before you slagged off two really great strikers regardless of who they signed for they were fantastic when they were at Lfc. So Torres did a bit of sulking, he's a footballer.
Albertx Torres is crap! He sulks not like a footballer because not all footballers sulk. Watch him with his last season for us he Is awful! Get your head out his arse!
London red
According to your logic, even if it jus a joke, if we 'did' buy Torres for 20 mill, meaning we bought him twice for a combined fee of 23 mill, then, really he earnt us money as we sold him to Chelsea for 50 mill, so we'd have Torres and be 7 mill better off, but it's not going to happen.
I was relating to their behavouir whilst lfc players. quite similar . owen went on record in saying he would sign a new contract and no need to worry, he also said his biggest personal acheivemeant was getting a prem medal for them mufc( based on 5 appearances) . the man scored 2 wonder goals for us in the final of the f.a cup l and played a big part in d treble year which enabled him to scoop the european footballer of the year! in torres case he he sulked for a drastically long time . he knew there was interest in chelsea so he turned up the day we played them in november and scored twice and put d effort in until jan were he got his move . 4 a good 9 month at lfc he colllected his 125k a week without breaking a sweat and said what he said about the club .In respect of what I've said there, it makes them awfull. gr8 strikers but morals are lost on them .me I like hyppias fowlers caras gerards and d like
5gold stars
24 Jun 2013 20:59:52
65 goals in 102 appearances for Torres at Lfc. He was crap in his last half season but you can't deny talent no matter how bad his behaviour. London red did you know that stat or is your head firmly up your own arse.
Liverpool red.
Owen was European player of the year at Liverpool. Turned into a bellend but that deserves respect
24 Jun 2013 19:29:30
hi eds
i think we can win the league by getting the right players. eriksen and HM are a must
24 Jun 2013 19:48:51
From 7th in the league to champions that would be a premier league first.
Even hull city can win the league by getting right players.
Your squad is not good enough to get top 4 so to think you can win the league you need to get real my friend I would say with your recent signings I think it will be either 6th or 7th for you at best redmen. JOEYEFC.
24 Jun 2013 21:22:42
Joey, Roberto Martinez took over a premier league club in Wigan and got them relegated after dodging it for a couple of seasons. Think he can do better at everton probably not. He never improved Wigan regardless of money ect. Should be funny.
24 Jun 2013 21:19:48
Yeah and I predict a 16th, 17th finish for the bluesmurfs.
[The only REDS]
24 Jun 2013 22:14:26
Far from true there JoeyEFC. Tottenham losing Bale, Arsenal needing to revamp half the team, Moyes first season, this ouryear to get back in the champs league. Fair enough we won't be pushing for the title but i'd say we will finish betweeb 3rd and 6th
Anfield Andy
Lol joey says a lot about Everton when u have nothing better to do then look down your nose at your bigger better neighbours!
Well Joey if you think that's the best we can do then why are you trawling through a Liverpool banter forum. nothing interesting on the Everton one?
24 Jun 2013 19:15:49
After signing Simon Mignolet tomorrow, I think LFC will steep up there efforts to sign Mickey closely followed by Llori.
Then they will sit tight and wait for players to slowly to leave i.e. possibly Coates, Shelvey, Spearing, Pacheco, Assaidi. If these fringe players do go or one or two starters i.e. Downing, Skrtel, Reina or Suarez then you will see the likes of Astu, Tello, Muniain or Papadopoulos being targeted, but until there is some more out I can't see there being more in, than the deals we are currently working on, because of the wage bill / net spend.
Markolfc
24 Jun 2013 18:46:34
hi eds
can we get Brazilian wonder kid bernard?i think he will b a superstar. {Ed052's Note - We had him watched a couple of seasons back. I don't know of any lingering interest, and cannot see a need for him. He is a very talented individual, however}
Top little player. These are the kind of signings Liverpool should be making.
We don't have a need for talented players?
24 Jun 2013 18:17:21
Not slagging him off by all means but can eds or reds tell me why Lucas is now a DM? When he was bought he was an AM if I remember correctly. Just wanted to know, not trying to cause any trouble {Ed052's Note - Rafa just moved him back, and its where he has been since}
Cheers ed
Lucas on LFC TV said he realised he was not quick enough for the premiership and that moving to DM allowed him time to play, if my memory serves me right
Lucas just like Coutinho is currently doing; spent hours in the Gym to develop his core strength to deal with the physical aspect of the Premier.
Lucas's reward was, he was then able to play DM.
The thought of Coutinho
strengthening up and improving as much as Lucas did, is frightening. (for the rest of the premiership that is)
Coutinho
Hope he does not turn green and take his Shirt off or he'll be yellow carded!
24 Jun 2013 18:06:15
Micky move is on .he was supposed to hook up with shaktar donesk on sunday for a training camp he hasn't gone because he is expected on merseyside by the end of the week to tie up the deal .all ownership has now been sorted and a deal is in place you heard it here first . Loro cfl
Hope so mate he looks good from what I have seen . Anything on this eds?
YNWA
Jamesy {Ed052's Note - Nothing new that I have heard. It doesn't seem that the deal has moved forwards}
Ed 52 is the Llori deal or the Atsu one moving forward? {Ed052's Note - I have't heard anything new in regards to those moves}
24 Jun 2013 19:54:26
So when you say "heard it here first"? you mean its a complete lie that you've devised in you head?
ACHILLES.
Mighty Red its Ilori not Llori!
24 Jun 2013 18:04:43
For all the folks out there touting BR's signings as 'Too expensive'. There is one thing that is slightly counter intuitive, that a lot of us don't understand. The cost of a player coming in is not his transfer fees, but rather the total cost of ownership. And in many a case, over a 5 year contract, the biggest part of that becomes the player's wages.
Now I do not know what wages the players BR is signing are on, but I can tell you this much - they are much more frugal in terms of wage than those being signed by the top clubs. Mignolet's wage should be less than Reina by 2x, and Mickey's wage, should he sign, would be around half that of Gonzalo Higuain, or Isco.
Similarly, Aspas and Alberto are both in on relatively low wages, and even if we may have paid slightly over the odds for Alberto, if he gets to feature in 50% of our league games this season, it will be a steal in terms of the total cost of ownership of the player.
The same was also true for Joe Allen and Borini last season, who are both on wages < 50k pounds a week AFAIK.
Of course, TCO also includes agent fees, and the gazillion taxes. But overall, I believe we are doing sensible business.
Of course the proof will be in the pudding. Michu has proved that you don't need to pay top money for top players
So let's cross our fingers with these transfers
Better than 20 mil for Robbie Keane downing or 35 for Carroll
Ynwa new chaps
@1: I agree. And the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. Sorry to be a pedant but that saying is always mis-quoted lol
Mr Benn
24 Jun 2013 18:00:30
Which match do you think was our best team performance last season? Personally, i'll go with our 5-2 win over Norwich. {Ed052's Note - Swansea at home was pretty amazing. }
Newcastle away without Suarez was pretty special
Newcastle away 6-0 was the best for me. Personally having been inside St. James Park during LFC's visit during the Roy Hodgson days, I saw first hand how difficult an away ground it is.
Carroll scored 2 that day playing for NUFC, but then we had NGog, Konchesky and Kyrgiakos on the pitch.
The real AG
Newcastle away or Spurs at home
24 Jun 2013 17:40:49
Liverpool Scouts are working OT in Turkey! 2 or 3 players currently playing in the U-20 WC, will be bought, and loaned back out, maybe 1 will stay. Youth Movement BR loves to Build and L.F.C. Future will be Bright!
Hairy Yank.
24 Jun 2013 17:40:09
eds, how many more signings do you think Liverpool will make? and how likely out of 10 is it that suarez will leave?. I really hope he waits 1 more season and if we don't finish top 4 I would let him go.
great work keep it up!
pp. lfc {Ed052's Note - 2, 3 or 4 mate. We don't do ratings out of ten, but its very likely. I hope he doesn't wait 1 more season. People seem to have forgotten already he is banned for the first half dozen or so games this coming season}
Thanks for the reply and ill remember that for next time, and I agree with you :)
24 Jun 2013 17:36:27
Hi Eds and fellow Reds, just a quick question for you guys. I'm a fan of Lucas, I think he's a class player and I realize that his position on the pitch often doesn't get him the recognition he deserves. That being said, I feel Lucas is a) either still nursing his injuries or b) his injuries have caused him to become a little afraid to marshall the midfield the way he had done before the injury. My question is are we currently looking for competition for the DM position? I personally feel we need a few big physical boys in that midfield because we really struggled to match up to the bigger more physical teams last season. {Ed052's Note - I think the critique of Lucas post injury has been over the top. Although he may look a bit ungainly, he averages the same, if not more tackles per game post injury rather than pre. He also has a stupidly high pass percentage, and really links our game together. I'm not sure there are too many players in world football, if any, who could do a better job than Lucas at what he does. And no, I don't know of any peo9ple we have looked at for CDM. There were rumours of a youngster from Argentina called Biteco, but he'd only be a U18 or reserve if he came in. I think it is time to give Coady a chance. He played 2 first team games (if I remember correctly) last season, and was great in both.}
I totally agree with you on this ed. Lucas looked a little tentative right after his return from a 2nd significant injury in 2 years, but he has recovered since. Also, look at the record with and without Lucas to assess his impact. Now, if you want a powerful mid who is going to bully the opposition, Lucas is not your man. However, watch him against top opposition and he is often far more aggressive than usual. He'll never score consistently that I agree with, but when it comes to win a ball cleanly from the opposition he is top class. The brilliant Eric Cantona once said of Didier Deschamps that he was a glorified waterboy to which Deschamps replied: "Yes, I carried his water for years." It takes 11 players, fellas.
Canadian Fan
What I loved about Coady last season was when he misplaced a pass and was really pissed off with himself! You could really see how he wants to play to the best he can.
I completely agree agree with you with regards to connor making his transition to the first team, but with regards to Lucas I still can't see him being back at his best just yet. Perhaps a good preseason would help the lad. I still feel strong competition in that position would be healthy for the player and the club
Keep an eye out for Yalany Baio from the academy. Turns 19 start of this season. Proper little CDM, can play full back too.
SpudRed
@Ed052: Biteco could be a business venture set up by a certain Uruguayan striker.
Mr Benn
24 Jun 2013 17:10:08
Ed 002, I could be wrong but after researching the UK home office website and in particular UK immigration it would appear to me that whilst it is possible for a player to be granted a visa on an 'exceptional talent' basis, it also seems possible for a player to apply as a Tier 1 (Investor). They would have to invest £1m into the UK economy (mostly UK government bonds) but at the same time they don't even have to speak English. I guess there must be a reason why players don't go down this route, can you advise why? Is it because it be messy for tax reasons for the purchasing club to sort out the £1m for the player to invest. {Ed002's Note - You are wasting your time researching such things - none of the investor or bringing employment rules relate to footballers, musicians of folks like me all of which need a Visa.}
This investment method is typically used by HNW/UHNW investors, typically from a business/investor background. I have known a number of such Investments from Chinese, Russian and Arabic people for a number of years.
Irrelevant for footballers and similar professions as Ed002 mentions.
24 Jun 2013 17:10:08
Ed 002, I could be wrong but after researching the UK home office website and in particular UK immigration it would appear to me that whilst it is possible for a player to be granted a visa on an 'exceptional talent' basis, it also seems possible for a player to apply as a Tier 1 (Investor). They would have to invest £1m into the UK economy (mostly UK government bonds) but at the same time they don't even have to speak English. I guess there must be a reason why players don't go down this route, can you advise why? Is it because it be messy for tax reasons for the purchasing club to sort out the £1m for the player to invest.
24 Jun 2013 17:07:31
When Alberto and possibly Ilori come in, how much do you exect him/them to play in the starting 11? Thanks {Ed052's Note - I shall get my mystic ball out. That is actually impossible to answer. It is also impossible to make an educated guess. There are far too mnay variables}
24 Jun 2013 16:50:27
victor wanyama rejects southampton br should go for him ideal alongside stevie g a class player go get him br
Think you will find negotiations are still on-going with Saints.
I wish everyone would get off this wanyama band wagon, the boy is not good enough . No player up here in scotland is good enough at the moment to play for the mighty reds. rfc/lfc
Tom glasgow red.
24 Jun 2013 16:33:11
Ed052 you don't rate wanyama I'm wondering if we were to sign a DM who'd be your pick {Ed052's Note - Its not really that I don't rate him. I know how highly rated he is by many people in the game. You don't make an international debut at 15 if you don't have a bit of something about you. However, when I have watched him (mainly in the Champions League) he has been sloppy with the ball. Poor passing. And rash in the tackle. However, he is highly rated, but I still wonder if the fees (both transfer, agents and wages) are worth it for him. Who would I like? I don't really see a need for a CDM. Coady needs to have a go}
Ed., I agree with you, the CDM is not priority position and I too would like to see Coady given a chance.
He will need to up his game mind you and get more consistent in his passing but he is only young and U-20 Capt for England. Hope he gets some game time with the first team this coming season
Only seen Cody once for the first team in Russia didn't look grate
I disagree with DM not being a priority position. Lucas as much as we all love was so poor after coming back from injury. Giving away needless free-kicks and running out of position. I can't remember who it was but I think it was Jay Rodriguez in the Southampton game that just ran straight through our defence, Lucas had wandered off and didn't have any pace to get back.
Now I hope that he can get back to any sort of form but I don't really want to bank on that especially if we can only bring someone in during the January window.
I don't think Coady will make it either if I'm honest and I don't think we should keep him around ala Spearing just because he's from Liverpool.
GuvTOB
25 Jun 2013 07:06:50
Guvtop, that's a pathetic post!
Lucas was the best tackler in the league last season even with injuries! That's his job! To do the dirty work. He didn't start at southampton because of a little injury and the goal you mention was Skrtel's fault.
Coady is 19 and captained all England's youth sides from U17, U18, U19 & U20. Clearly got something other about him more than "being from Liverpool" nonsense.
Unless you have a crystal ball which predicts young footballers futures before they have even been given a chance then am afraid your opinion is flawed and based on something other than reality!
[The only REDS]
{Ed052's Note - The Only Reds has done a fantastic post, all about signings, departures, the Luis saga and aspirations for next year. It was so good, we've stuck it up as an article, so please please check it out, and drop TOR a comment : http://www.liverpool-rumours.co.uk/liverpool-blog-3-top-4,-luis,-signings-and-departures.-by-the-only-reds.php
Thanks TOR!!}
This is a great idea, and should encourage other to contribute.
Davey liver.
25 Jun 2013 06:37:59
Thankyou ED. Hope it was a good read, have a nice day:)
[The only REDS]
24 Jun 2013 16:41:37
pre season:Shakhta 0-1 Dynamo 23/6/13 @1800 hrs seems that Henrikh Mkhitaryan didn't play nor was he on the subs bench could be good news
Is he not on Armenia duty?
Yes I think it's about 1.2 million, but not sure with the fee .
24 Jun 2013 16:22:33
ed, s have Cardiff City agreed a fee for old Liverpool target 'Tom Ince and does lfc get any money out of it?
I believe we have a sell on clause of 25-30%?
One sight said 2.8 million pounds but that's probably just speculative
24 Jun 2013 15:42:43
Hi Ed002,
if Suarez goes do you think Rodgers will buy another striker, maybe someone a bit more experienced that the two newcomers, someone who more or less guarantees 15-20 goals a season?thanks. {Ed002's Note - No, I suspect the addition will be Mkhitaryan or the like.}
So Ed002 you're expecting a 'similar' sort of player to Coutinho to come in additionally to finish off the attacking line-up?
Dan. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has a very clear interest in Mkhitaryan. If they decide to drop that perhaps the attacking shopping will be done for now. Maybe Suso will get an option to show what he can do?}
And just your view what do you expect Liverpool to do with the suarez money {Ed002's Note - Right now Liverpool are planning on spending on Toure, Mignolet, Aspas, Alberto and probably Tiago Ilori and possibly Mkhitaryan. Add to that agent fees, pay offs to those leaving and significant other costs that will be incurred and it is a not insignificant sum going out of the door.}
what happened with Atsu ed/
Drigan {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it.}
24 Jun 2013 16:10:58
Whatever happened to Gerardo bruna? is he still at Blackpool?
I think so. He is the opposite of Tom Ince and Kacaniklic, rated higher then either when at LFC, but struggling in Blackpool reserves.
The real AG
Still at Blackpool I believe, I thought he was going to be a star but for some reason he left to go to Blackpool. I don't know why and I've never seen him again since. he was a reserve star player while at Liverpool.
Eds do you know what happened to him and why he left us for Blackpool?
Dragon3383
Still at Blackpool I believe, I thought he was going to be a star but for some reason he left to go to Blackpool. I don't know why and I've never seen him again since. he was a reserve star player while at Liverpool.
Eds do you know what happened to him and why he left us for Blackpool?
Dragon3383 {Ed030's Note - He is clearly not that good,He is not getting a game at Blackpool so I doubt he is good enough for Liverpool. }
24 Jun 2013 15:58:59
Hi Ed's,
Been hearing rumours that Torres is missing Anfield and wants to come back. Will never ever be as good or easy on the eye as Suarez, but if he is likely to leave for Madrid, would you take Torres back for a cut price deal? I don't think I could stomach him coming back to Anfield, although he has been hitting form again. Would any of you take him back?
Cheers, Big Red {Ed052's Note - I would only have Torres if we were paid to have him, and subsequently paid to play him}
True Ed052, he wouldn't suit us at all at present, but still a bit harsh on the old geezer. At least he wasn't insulting Liverpool as much as Suarez is now. That much I have respect for him. {Ed052's Note - Of course. But he handed in a TR, which is disrespectful. He could have waited to the end of the year. Football is a business now, though. Not much room left for sentiment. Torres wouldn't deliever, so we don't need or want him}
24 Jun 2013 15:57:04
Hi eds, with wanyama turning down southampton and a 12m bid being accepted by celtic, do you think maybe he's an option, I rate him higher than allen who commanded the same fee so could maybe be a good signing? {Ed052's Note - I don't know of any interest from us, and when we need to strengthen other areas, I cannot see that amount of money being spent on a position which isn't key/for a back up}
24 Jun 2013 15:56:01
I love how folk on here say the Mkhitarayan deal is 'too complicated.' Is it 'too complicated' for you because we haven't just gone in and bought him like a packet of jelly babies from the sweetshop or do you think it's 'too complicated' for a professional football club with decades of experience in player transfers across the globe? Why don't we just wait for the window to open and see whether professionals fully equipped to do these type of deals find it 'too complicated' (Mascherano anyone?) or whether there is another reason why we choose a different player for that position.
I'm not going to ask questions about Suarez, Eriksen or even Wesley bloomin' Schneider. I'm not even going to slag off Waro or the Eds! I will however, keep up with checking this site every 10 minutes on a daily basis because even for my own whining, it's still addictive if only for the bad spelling of my fellow Liverpool fans!
Feeling good about next season already!
24 Jun 2013 16:44:39
There are clearly complications in the deal and as Ed 2 points out, we can over come these issues by paying extra.
The real AG
24 Jun 2013 15:44:47
{Ed052's Note - Theres a new, much requested profile on Simon Mignolet I have just uploaded, so please take a look:
http://player-profiles.co.uk/simon-mignolet.php
Cheers, Ed052}
Read we get 2.8 million. bonus if its true. Its more than ince is worth
Nice one.
{Ed052's Note - Further to this, does anybody have any profile requests (I seem to have worked my way through all of them) or want me to blog about anything?
P.S. please don't request Ilori again people!
Cheers, and think of some good ideas!!!}
What about Ever Banega of Valencia. Munian, Herera and Susaeta of Bilboa.
Jonesred {Ed052's Note - Thanks}
24 Jun 2013 15:16:55
Hi Eds,
Just a question on Ince- if the news that he is going to be sold to card city is true, does that mean Liverpool get a portion of the fee because we have a "sell on clause"? How does that work?
Thanks
Pablosoccer31 {Ed052's Note - I don't know if we have a clause or not, but basically if true, we'd get a portion of the fee}
I have been told it is 35% of any future transfer fee on Thomas Ince.
24 Jun 2013 14:39:45
publichair {Ed052's Note - We cant be saying that mate, we'd never find anything out again}
24 Jun 2013 14:10:47
HI ED are there any teams interested in Suso? {Ed052's Note - I don't know of any interest in him at this time. But he will only leave on loan, hopefully to Bolton or Wigan}
I for one hope he stays and gets a chance. I think he is a great player.
stu
Hopefully, a full season out on loan would be great for him. It helped Jack Wilshere massively the year he went to Bolton.
A year out on loan looks like on the card for Suso. Clearly there was interest in him last summer and this summer as clubs look to make a permanent deal, but Suso has rejected their interest, or so he said.
Rather than Wigan or Bolton, I hope he gets a loan to the Spanish 1st division or at a long stretch, the Bundesliga.
The real AG
Prem team like Hull or Cardiff would suit me. We can keep a closer eye on him in this League. Would also like to see Coady go to the other team for a season.
Also happy with Wisdom going to Fu
Ham if true.
It will help then gain a full seasons experience.
Jonesred. {Ed052's Note - Neither Hull nor Cardiff play good football though. Wigan and Bolton do. A move to Fulham for Wisdom would be amazing}
Southampton would be a good place for a loan if he would get his game that is palace play attacking football could replace zaha
If Wisdom was to be loaned out it will only be to a championship team, so he could be called back if needed.That's my take on it anyway.
In all honesty Ed Bolton didn't when Wiltshire went there.
Jonesred
Swansea would be an ideal place for Suso and Wisdom to go on loan. They have a small squad and will need more players to cope with the demands of Europe and they play good football. It's a win, win.
Raoul
24 Jun 2013 15:06:15
Hey eds, are the rumors about henderson leaving true?many rumors have been coming out that hendo will be sold to generate funds for Wanyama
Br would be mad to sell hendo.
stu
24 Jun 2013 14:58:24
From looking at the LFC website i'm guessing every Silver Mercedes Vito with tinted windows near Melwood will be followed! Seems to be the vehicle of choice for collecting new players!
NS
24 Jun 2013 14:52:00
This is what Henrikh Mkhitaryan said on his official facebook page saterday. Hope you post this eds.
Dear fans
Of course, I thank all of you that are interested in football matters, but I'd ask that you not only chanek inappropriate comments, but also prevents those who are constantly creating various misconceptions spreading unverified information.
A few days have been a variety of media, news, forums and Facebook to read the information, which I have not even heard, but have indicated that they are a reliable source or my club and the other clubs close to their sources.
I assure you that none of these sources, and they have no chance to comment.
There are also many scripts that apply to people who for years have had a significant contribution to the development of my work, I would like to point out that Ruben Hayrapetyan is a man who has always done everything that I will come back with higher rating. I can play good football and will benefit the Ruben Hayrapetyan and my people and I will do everything that I will come back better the club and I always have a very good relationship with FFA President Ruben Hayrapetyan has nothing to do with the different news Found information.
My work deals with the transfer of my agent I as a professional football player, the club and my agent, I'm not interested in my case I have my official contract with the club and perform my duties is to take place between the clubs agreed a deal, then I only kteghekanam transaction details and I'll give my consent or not, if it's not enough for me now I'm on vacation, I am going to relax and Paris.
Russian and British media are trying to solve the problems, or that my actions are the conclusions of the days when he had to undergo medical examination that I went to, I was in at the time or saw me write the Vienna airport. I went to Austria and waiting for something, but I was leaving for Vienna, Paris and Geneva, my sister was off work.
I'm not planning any media to communicate with, because I can not comment on things of which I have no information on professional players are rules in life and I'm obliged to respect them.
I promise that you will be in charge of my football and my first kteghekatsnem FFA page or the official website:
Again, I want to thank all my fans I could not tell you everything.
Does this mean he's not moving to Liverpool?
24 Jun 2013 14:44:18
Read we're moving in on Elia again, Dutch winger.
Eds is this a boring made up old story or is this a new piece of info. Do you see Elia as an option rather than Astu (link which seems to have gone away)
Carlo {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}
24 Jun 2013 14:39:53
We should make a serious move for Thiago Alcantara, quoted as a possible signing for Man United for £15M!, we would be foolish not to throw a bid in. We have Rodolfo who has history with Barcelona, we have Lucas and Coutinho and given that his Father is Brazilian, would help in terms of settling in. A future superstar and Spanish under 21 Captain.
No brainer and an absolute bargain if you ask me.
Totally agree we should at least bid for him as Mkhitaryan deal looks too complicated and is more expensive, Thiago would play in a 3 man midfield with Lucas & Gerrard and would be a guaranteed starter which is what he wants, problem is thought when you have got Man Utd, Real Madrid, Man Cty, Chelsea etc also after you we don't really have much of a chance as they can all offer CL football and probably better contract.
Well said BigD, you're right, Mickys a complicated transfer (but not impossible) and more expensive. and yes the teams you mentioned can offer CL football but they are already packed with superstar players, will he get a look in?. with regards to the contract, apart from the ridiculous wages paid by Chelsea and City I'm sure we could match anything utd would be willing to offer him. Everything about us are more suited to this guy.
He would need champions league to get a chance at world cup squad material
Banega is an even cheaper option at 8 million.
Jonesred
24 Jun 2013 14:32:58
Its going to be our year next year I can see it Suarez is going to stay because of our rich history Hendo is really coming of age and is going to excell in this exciting squad Luis Alberto plays like Neymar #5TIMES
Couldn't agree more
Have we not being saying next year is our year for the last 23 years now?
At no point under Souness or Hodgson did I say that next year will be our year.
Andy K
24 Jun 2013 14:25:34
I just got a text message from suarez saying he is definately leaving Liverpool. But he told me his heart is set on becoming a roadworker/lollypop man. I had a suspicion the last time I was at his house. All the signs were there.
Smurf
24 Jun 2013 14:06:42
Do you no what really frustrates me about Liverpool. Nothing.! Love everything about us. The hardest thing for me was probably the fact that I had so many bromance's over that last season it was ridiculous and didn't no who my new favourite was going to be. First allen then sterling then hendo. Suso even got real close but didn't quite make the cut yet lol. but for now my fellow reds you can all sleep easy because I've settled now with the wee man himself coutinho. His passing got him over the line lol. Hope all is well with you all because all is well with us.!
Smurf
Great post smurf! nice to hear someone being positive in stead of the usual misery arses. :)
24 Jun 2013 14:01:16
Have you noticed Suarez changed his tune slightly in his last few interviews. He also done his first tweet in English since the saga started last night.
Ed. Would I be right in saying that Suarez probably realizes he isn't Madrids first choice target? It's clearly Bale and then there seems to be a few players in the frame to replace Higuian.
Thanks. {Ed002's Note - There is no link between Suarez and Bale.}
Suarez leaving will depend on Bale {Ed052's Note - How does us selling Suarez depend on a player from a different club who play in a different position moving?}
I think what everyone is thinking ed is that if Madrid do get bale there is a chance that they will of spent most of their transfer funds and then couldn't afford to buy suarez. {Ed002's Note - I have explained this before - no.}
24 Jun 2013 13:55:51
Hi Eds,
Will Liverpool receive 25 % of the 8 million fee for Tom Ince to Cardiff?
Regards
Marc {Ed002's Note - I don't know the provisions of his contract.}
24 Jun 2013 13:39:55
on the spurs site and rumour has it their new director of football amazingly has been told he can match r offer for HM will they ever go back into that hole they came out of 3 years ago.Tommy Irish Red
It's a free market any team can bid for anyone so please stop crying.
24 Jun 2013 13:36:05
hi ed, any interest in Chelsea's Ramirez I think he's got what we lack which is pace in the middle of the park? cheers {Ed052's Note - No. He isn't actually that quick, but quicker than most CMs. He is a superb player, and wont be moving}
He's not fast per se but his acceleration makes him look so quick because he tears past players. Chelsea have no reason to sell him and we have no reason to buy him
24 Jun 2013 13:34:59
Eds. Do you think will bring in a defensive midfielder for Lucas as your aware when Lucas was injured we struggled a bit, wot do make of signings so far great site .daveynwa {Ed052's Note - Perhaps, but it isn't a key position}
24 Jun 2013 13:34:14
This is the latest on Mkhitaryan from the club's website;
"June 22, 2013 - 14:08 AMT
Mkhitaryan's fans to stage protest near FFA premises
PanARMENIAN.Net - Fans of the Armenian national football team and Shakhtar Donetsk where Henrikh Mkhitaryan is a midfielder will gather in front of the Football Federation of Armenia Monday, June 24, to express displeasure over the situation with Mkhitaryan's transfer to Liverpool FC.
The organizers also issued an open letter which says that "Mkhitaryan fell a victim to FFA President Ruben Hayrapetyan's oligarchic system", which now hampers the player's transfer to the English club.
"Mkhitaryan can't fight against Hayrapetyan alone, as the latter always boasts about his personal contribution to the guy's successful career, fans say.
They also plan to demand Hayrapetyan's resignation.
Mkhitaryan said: 'I promise that you will hear any news first on my Facebook page or the official club website (Panarmenian.net)"
abbs
24 Jun 2013 13:32:42
afternoon eds and reds.just wondering what peoples thoughts on the new signings . though they aren't the big money superstar recruitments most people want i'm pretty excited for the season and can't wait to see if they move us up the league.couple defensive signings and il be happy enough with our activity for the summers work :) {Ed052's Note - People know my thoughts already}
Only time will tell. can't say a lot about them as I have not really seen them play.i hope they turn out to be class.
stu
24 Jun 2013 13:18:26
Hey Eds
whats the chance that Liverpool will sign both Mkhitryan and Eriksen, suarez will go for at least 40 mil, Mkhitryan is 20m and Eriksen 15m them both would be lethal
Thoughts? {Ed002's Note - Sorry.}
24 Jun 2013 13:03:07
Hi Eds,
Anything in this Wanyama stuff?
Really is a good player.
Cheers {Ed052's Note - I don't believe so, at this time. He'd command a huge fee, and his agents want a huge fee, and huge wages for their client. Is he really worth it?}
Celtic have accepted a £12m bid from Southampton for him & considering we paid that for Allen I would say that's a reasonable price for a Champions League proven player!
24 Jun 2013 13:42:21
he is really worth for an average fee.
coz if lucas gets injured, we are screwed.
An ex pro I spoke to last weekend who happens to be a Celtic fan told me Wanyama is definitely the real deal and he believes he would look very comfortable at a top prem club.
I haven't seen enough of him to comment though
24 Jun 2013 13:10:06
Luke Shaw anyone? If you stumped up enough cash would he join?
No chance. Southampton are no longer a selling club but a club on the up. They have signed some good players in the last 12 months and I expect them to snap up a good few more. MonaghanRed
24 Jun 2013 12:52:18
Hi eds do you know anything of henderson's future? Hope he stays!
13 reds
24 Jun 2013 12:42:38
looking at the defence of Liverpool the only position I think we need to fill is a left back I would keep skrtel
and use wisdom and I think martin kelly will be 1st choice centre half for years when he stays fit but I think we should look at danny rose to challenge enrique what does eds think
redstatto {Ed052's Note - Skrtel cannot play LB. I see no merit in keeping Skrtel}
24 Jun 2013 12:04:58
Hi Eds
What do you think to the rumour that Henderson has been put up for sale so we can use the funds to buy Wanyama? Personally after seeing his improvement last season I would rather keep Henderson. I rather see us sell Shelvey Assaidi, Pacheco and Coates and spend the money on a decenter CB.
And I don't think I've seen an answer to this but that assuming that Suarez does go who would you like to see replace him? I know we've seen answers like Cavani and Benzema but would be interested in your (more realsistic) thoughts.
thanks
RedDan {Ed052's Note - I will be very very angry if Henderson goes. He improved greatly, and with Suarez going, there would be no need to sell Hendo to fund Wanyama. I don't even rate Wanyama that highly. I would sell a lot of players before Hendo. I am happy with Aspas, Alberto and Mickey as a joint replacement for Suarez}
Ya I'd agree RedDan we should be looking to sell loads more before Henderson, definitely keep him. Your above list plus few mil for Spearing and sell Downing too as Wanyama would be a big upgrade on Spearing for DM backup/rotation and we've signed Aspas who can playing RW for Downing and we have enough young fellas who could play there and possibly Mickey or whoever else will come in at a higher level of quality
24 Jun 2013 13:44:00
there isn't anyone to sell.
downing, and shelvey is defo going. spearing would genrate 0 amount.
who else remains?. or might we need to sell Allen.
Sign Aspas, Alberto! I'd love Micky but admittedly the price is high so I think Eriksen would be a better option and almost all things included 10m cheaper. However if Micky signs great! Keep Suarez. Let Downing, Assaidi, Borini, Shelvey, Carroll leave ahead of Suarez. Not all them though.
Attacking options (I think BR wants this:
Suarez. Micky. Coutinho.
Sturridge.
subs: Aspas Sterling Suso Alberto plus whoever didn't leave.
loan out Ibe. {Ed002's Note - Ibe cannot go on loan just yet. I expect that matters will become clearerin the next week regarding Eriksen. Dortmund will make a decision whether they will look to complete a deal or look to elsewhere (specifically Pjanic) with De Bruyne and Bernard no longer looking to be options. }
Will aspas and mkhitaryan be enough to replace suarez? Considering how far off top 4 we were last year I think we will need those two in addition to suarez or someone similar in order to get back into the top 4?
BigL
@Harry those listed by RedDan plus Downing and Spearing would likely generate around 25m in sales. Carroll also just left for 15m, and yes I know we have spent quite a bit already on our 3 early signings. I wouldn't sell Allen seeing as the manager really wanted him and likes his style, etc
24 Jun 2013 12:35:07
Just seen a comment below regarding Aspas being a replacement for Suarez and if so there would be a lot of empty seats next season. Why?
When we have a bad seasons we are still Liverpool fans through and through or simply you are not a fan but some glory hunter who should be following scumchester Utd or Man city/Chelsea. Loyalty comes from within you cannot but a price on it!
I for one am really excited (as I am every season) about watching Liverpool attempt to break back where we belong.
YNWA
Bang on - SteveG
24 Jun 2013 13:50:37
Steve G.
Relaax. First the stadium won't be empty regardless of suarez. But we would loose some fans for sure. If we end up not bringing any high profile striker.
coz that's the world demands.
the sponosrs, the deals,, advertisments. common they pay to see the stars.
your second paragaraph is just a frustuation or jelousy. I never understand this. why are other fans disgraced here?
ed never takes any action. Ed are unhappy only if someone abuse the Eds.
and BTW You don't seem aan intellegent football fan.
Imotional for sure. Liverpool shirt, with the scarf and then. a beer in the hand 90 mts drama at anfield.
Whats this plastic fans?. which Liverpool culture tought you to label people by ths name.
what kinda respect is this?
calling someone of your gender, Plastic, person, person.
waaoooo. Liverpool Fc culture.
I'd still go the game if Gordon Ramsey was upfront an Lewis Hamilton was in goal always support the mighty reds . Lfc fazak .
A very confusing reply by Harry Scousser.
The real AG
24 Jun 2013 12:28:54
Any updates on Mkhitaryan ed? {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
24 Jun 2013 12:23:23
I've heard through a reliable source that there still has been no contact from Madrid about Suarez. There has however been ongoing discussions with Spurs for Bale. Interesting.
Ash
24 Jun 2013 12:18:15
Liverpool are ready to rekindle their long-standing interest in Eljero Elia.[Talk Sport]? edds {Ed002's Note - RTP please.}
24 Jun 2013 12:12:49
Eds, do the reports that Mkhi hasn't joined shaktar for pre season training mean a deal is getting closer? {Ed002's Note - Mkhitaryan was in Austria with his team mates but has since spent some time in Paris and Brussels. The situation that needs to be resolved does not directly involve the player.}
24 Jun 2013 12:12:44
Aspas and Ian Ayre . Related?
Carlo
24 Jun 2013 18:16:42
love child.
ACHILLES.
Which one?
24 Jun 2013 12:07:43
Hi eds what are the chances of adel Hernandez from urguary
Not really related but is this website your. Full time job or do u only work on it in your spare time {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath over Hernandez - and I have proper work that I have to do.}
24 Jun 2013 12:01:42
Heard of Henderson rumours to fund Wanyama, so happy if true, we need cover for Lucas and Henderson doesn't have that special something, he is just an average player, not Liverpool level in my opinion. Hope its true.
Henderson is an excellent player and I will be very disappointed to see him go, whether it's to bring in Wanyama or not.
The real AG
Agree with the real AG. Hendo was class last year and improved dramatically. I’d be gutted if he went. Matt
Another Blind Hendo Hater. Give him time :) shanks
Hendo is doing a Lucas and proving all u haters who don't give young players a chance to mature. The next 2/3seasons will see hendo one of the top English midfielders mark my words he will defo be a contender for the World Cup squad next year if he carries on from end of last season! I admire him as a man to as he never moans or never in the papers. Model pro well done Jordan u have changed a lot of people opinion and deserve your squad place at Liverpool
Hendo is exactly the type of player BR likes. Young and hard-working. He's silenced a lot of critics last season and won the praise of the manager couple of times. I would be very surprised to see him go unless he wants out.
24 Jun 2013 11:57:26
From what I've seen of these players I'd say.
Kurt Zouma > Llori. I think Zouma would bring more to the side and would be capable of making an instant impact. However I see one of these two replacing Coates. And if as Ed 2 suggests we were to lose either Skrtel or Agger, I would think we would go all out for Papa and perhaps a LB too since Agger can act as cover for that position.
Just my thoughts
Cheers
Puzzled Red
Was it one of your thoughts before ed002 put it into your head yesterday though?
The Juicer
24 Jun 2013 11:37:31
Luis does leave thos summer for 40 or 50 what are the posible transfer that could replace him.
Thanks
Ynwa
Jeez the Eds must be tearing their hair out
cozinoz
I think Heskey is still available!
Ynwa were going to sign nani. hooper. baines. Benteke. an Jervis ;) shanks
Cozinoz, yeah, if they have any left!
Ed002 has a beard, maybe he will start picking them?
The real AG
4 Jun 2013 11:29:37
Ed as it stands what do you think are the chances out of 10 for Suarez staying at least for another year?
Thanks Brad {Ed052's Note - 0.01}
I would have thought 2 in 10.
24 Jun 2013 12:14:45
A bit optimistic there ed052?
So your saying there's a chance Ed? :)
24 Jun 2013 11:19:17
Hi Eds, was just wondering if our purchases are dependant on player sales?
After selling Carroll we were able to complete the 2 purchases which would explain why it took a little longer to finalise.
Simon O {Ed052's Note - The answer to your first question is yes... and no. The owners will fund some signings, such as Aspas, Alberto etc. However, there will come a point when further funding for signings will come from player sales to make us more sustainable.}
21 Jun 2013 20:25:11
Hi ed's, just watching the U-20's and suso looking good and spain as usual. We have connor coady there too. Any idea who else we have at the world cup to watch? Thanks
Ynwa {Ed052's Note - I don't think that there are any other Liverpool players there, apart rom Flanagan. I will check, or maybe other posters will know. Teixeira perhaps, or Adorjan}
24 Jun 2013 11:22:10
I say this every transfer window and every off season - i'm getting very excited about next season! Surely with or without Suarez next season things are positive here are a few reasons:
- Second season for Rodgers so players, club and staff all know what he needs and wants from them and vice-versa.
- Full pre-season with the majority of players, if you recall last pre-season a lot of players had some time off after national duties.
- New players have been bought early maximising the time for them to bed into the club.
- Lots of young players out to impress and stake a claim above existing players and new signings.
- Sense of stability at the club.
- Sturridge, Gerrard and Allen should all be fit for start of season.
- Borini should be full of confidence after a great U21 campaign
- Suarez if he stays will mean we have one of the most exciting front attacking line ups in the league.
All these factors should help give us a good start in the EPL, the start last season was dreadful and cost us at the end of the season.
Lets be positive!
Cant wait for the football to start again!
24 Jun 2013 11:21:10
Like what I've heard from Aspas. Certainly need that bit of cockiness/confidence to play in his position (which Downing lacks miserably). Do I see him being a great player? no. But Dirk Kuyt wasn't the most technically gifted player, but I would say was a success at the club. This lad has the work rate and more ability. Good signing Brendan
Danny
24 Jun 2013 10:52:18
Hey Eds, not a rumor question but more to ask what your thoughts are. I recently listened to an interview with Rodgers and the feeling I got was that he is very much keen on having a bigger and better squad and most of the new signings are coming in to complement the squad players rather than replace them with the exception of one or two who may leave. He feels pretty certain that Suarez will stay as he said 'he is the type of player who would still give his all when on the pitch no matter what' kinda implying that if he were forced to stay, he'd still play with passion - the signings of Aspas and Alberto are again, to complement Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho in attack rather than replace them. The same with Mignolet (which he confirmed was coming to Liverpool) and Reina. I don't know how much he has to work with but don't you think personally it will be worth keeping Suarez for at least one more year? Especially given that the squad looks set to be a lot stronger this year if the likes of Mhiky and Papa/Alderwiereld/promising center back do join in addition to aspas, alberto and mignolet.
Dani {Ed002's Note - Suarez clearly wants to leave. I would never advocate keeping a player who wants out.}
24 Jun 2013 10:33:44
Hi eds, do you think if suarez leaves there's a chance we may bid for either jackson martinez or wilfred bony? {Ed002's Note - Not whilst Liverpool's interest is elsewhere. Keep in mind that Aspas will be arriving as well.}
Aspas is no way a replacement for suarez. If the owners think they can sell our best player and replace him with Aspas then they will have a lot of empty seats next season. {Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the owners. Rodgers has decided on the way he wants the football to be played and the players that he wants.}
True Fans support Liverpool fc not individuals
True Fans support Liverpool fc not individuals
True
But maybe not!
24 Jun 2013 10:14:46
This site is great though it used to be fun!
I remember reading how some on here seen every great player under the sun coming out of melwood in a black Mercedes and how someone would of been having a pint with john Barnes after a match and got some inside information etc etc
Then there was the serious and valued posters
Macca, eds and the likes of chris in Tamworth and red Lenin.
now all you seem to get is ed bashing Macca bashing and people who seem to think its better to be critical of every decision Liverpool make and every response the eds give.
If you don't like the decisions Br and the club make that's your choice but you don't need to trash everyone who thinks we are moving in the right direction and given time and support we might be on to something good.
Eds please keep up the good work and Macca any snippets is much appreciated especially to true fans
I am not afraid to leave my name not like most of the ****s who only post vile
Lurgan Red
24 Jun 2013 10:46:07
I completely agree mate, I've been a supporter longer than some on here have lived, I've witnessed all the highs and lows. You can't be supportive these days it seems, or have a positive view! If you do then wow, that can't be your real view! The worst mate is people who call it soccer and think they know what the game is all about and everybody else is blind.
In buck I trust.
[The only REDS]
Agree mate. many good posters have disappeared! Where have the likes of Blaire Mayne, the real KB, jonson6 gone to? They always had something intresting to say. Ed001 is also less involved in this site than he used to. Also what's sir alex x up to nowadays? he was funny for a bitter.
Cheers!
YNWA
Not to mention Daniel Hanwell ;)
cozinoz
There were some excellent posters a while back such as Bob the Red, Blair, The real KB, etc. Most have left because of the constant whining and abuse from the deludes.
The real AG
The best poster was Bob the Red but he appears to have been driven from the site by the extremists
The best poster is FowlerisGod.
Damn you blue sign off name!
24 Jun 2013 10:14:20
Haha Aspas is quite a condfiedent fellow isn't he, looking at what he's been quoted on the website! I love it.
Trust me! He can back it up too!
I hope so mate
Thats why at 25 he was playing for real or was he?
Suarez was playing for ajax what's your point
24 Jun 2013 10:00:04
i think the reason why we are purchasing all these players from spain etc is because rodgers likes all the technical players . let's face it they're the best players in the lge . suarez matas hazards coutinhos etc. but also for us we have rodolfo borrel in at the u21s . so that doesn't mean susos texeira won't get chances, he just means d system is going to be like this throughout the club . healthy philosophy . plus the carling cup will allow players chances . and suso will benefit with like players in the team and allow him to shine
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24 Jun 2013 09:54:42
Going back to Suarez as a few have this morning, look at it this way.
There is no loyalty in football, every player is in it for themselves and don't kid yourselves that there not.
I was like a lot of you years ago, if a player wanted to leave us, no matter what way they went about it I called the player all kinds and wanted the player gone A.S.A.P.
But I look at it differently now, I say use the player the way they use the club, myself personally I would say to Suarez, stay one more season, bust a gut for us and get us in the Champions League and you can have your move at say £30 million which at that price he could take his pick of clubs as he would be reasonably priced and at his peak, we would have the extra CL millions to cover the shortfall in his price whilst making a small transfer profit as well, and would find it a little easier to find a replacement for him as we could attract a higher calibre player with CL football.
I can see why a few feel let down by him, but think with your head and not your heart, it benefits the clubs long term future if we tell him what he wants to hear keep him for one more season, because if he does and we get CL football, who knows where the club could go, sell him and spew hatred towards him and we could fall further away.
Many on here say they don't support individual players they support Liverpool F.C. well Luis Suarez staying for one more season could just be the difference and be the catalyst to making us great again.
REMEMBER! THERE IS NO LOYALTY IN FOOTBALL ANYMORE!
Waro
Oh my god waro that has to be the only sensible thing you have ever said!
K.adlard
So why should we wait until next season to sell him for 30 million? When this season we could get 40 or 50 million, I know which I'd take, sell him now
True waro mate
I agree with everything you say there, but the problem is, how do we convince him to stay? he has made it very very clear he wants out NOW.
His constant media whoring, last summer with Juventus, this summer with Real Madrid and stupid comments like "It's all the media, the FA and everyone else's fault except mine" and "My family is suffering" card all point to an exit strategy he has thought up. He even said he doesn't wish to train with LFC anymore. This is down right disrespectful in my opinion and this alone is enough for me to hate his severe lack of professionalism.
The club has done everything to keep him and make him feel comfortable, but he keeps making it very very difficult for the club, the fans and himself.
He is a high risk to be kept in my opinion. He will already miss another 6 matches at the start of the season and there is no guarantee he will not do anything stupid again when he comes back from his current ban. He is no use sitting on the sidelines.
And, the last thing LFC need now, when we finally seem to be building towards a competent enough squad for a push for CL, is this clown messing it up again with his antics, which will definitely impact the rest of the squad.
The real AG
Great post Waro I agree completely with you. LMC
Waro, u really need to stop talking about Suarez. The guy wants out, let him go. No point in keeping a disgruntled player at the club. What is the guarantee we will get top4 next season even if Suarez stays? He has been here for 2.5 seasons, and we didn't get top4. Personally, I would take 40 million pounds for him, he is too big a baggage for the club to carry. The other players play much better without him, so i'm sure we will be just fine without him.
24 Jun 2013 11:01:40
But waro Suarez doesn't think Liverpool will achieve champions league, so how can you convince a player who doent believe in your team, the truth is he has got some very good offers and chance to win trophys neither we are showing ambition, we are still buying *pontential or unproven which we already have in numbers in our squad!
24 Jun 2013 11:03:48
Good post Waro., I completely agree about that there is no loyalty in football anymore.
In your opinion, what would keep Suarez?
Because I can't help but feel you are doing exactly what you say we shouldn't, thinking with your heart. I love Liverpool and would love Suarez to stay because just like you say it would make us great. But isn't that thinking with my heart? My mind keeps telling me he wants to leave, and I thought when he bit ivanovic it was his "unofficial transfer request" and that he would go to extreme lengths to push a move.
[The only REDS]
Indian Buzzer, with him and focused there's a very good chance we could get into the top 4, without him we will have no chance IMO.
We will see who is right on this particular point around May time next year.
Waro
p.s. I will talk about him all I want ok lad.
The only reds! I'm thinking totally with my head mate, Suarez is possibly the only player I can think of that you could keep even if he wants a move and he would not sulk or just go through the motions, he would still give a 100% maybe not for the team but just because he knows no other way to play football, and me personally, I don't care what his reasoning would be in giving 100% as long as he gives it.
And you asked what would keep him, assurances about a move for him as I've said in my OP, making it easier for him to leave and with some small amount of dignity. And even if we don't convince him and we refuse offers for him, that wouldn't bother me either, for the reasons I've stated above.
It's just my opinion on it and I could be totally wrong, but that's what I would like to see happen, because as I've said, it's about the club getting back to where it should be, at the very top of football and if means being just as vacuous and shallow as a footballer then so be it, let's play them at there own game and use them to get to where we want to be!
Waro
If we can get up to 50m this summer then we should cash in now.
All the big clubs seem to be spending big this year so it's the perfect selling time for a player like Suarez. No guarantee we would get 30m next year as the clubs willing to pay that price would have mostly done their striker shopping this summer.
Also no guarantee we would get top 4 with or without him.
He's going to miss the start of the season anyway and will probably get another ban during the season as well.
Finally he has his heart set on Madrid, or a move away abroad. There is a next to zero chance he will stay, it's best to just accept it and move on. I'm pretty sure the club has had all these discussions with the player and agent anyway in private. He wants out at any cost and it's a sellers Market for top
players. So it's inevitable really.
Have a bit of faith in the rest of the squad and the players likely to come in and you might surprise yourself.
I firmly believe now that we won't be successful if we keep Suarez, his attitude is disgraceful and will drag the rest of the team behind. He is a brilliant player however and I think he will do well at a club like Madrid where his attitude/ego won't be noticed as much.
MIKEY
Waro, its your obsession with Suarez that is so irritating. He is simply a trouble maker. Agreed he is a world class player, but is he the best player out there for our system? Is he worth all the hassle? I would think not. If u wanna see Sturridge, Coutinho and the other kids blossom into top quality players, Suarez definitely is not the guy to help them out. He refuses to pass when teammates r in a better position, he is a ball hog, runs into dead ends and shoots from awkward angles. His finishing is abysmal considering the number of chances he gets, and he is always in the headlines for the wrong reason. Now i'm not saying Aspas is good enough to replace him, but he may be a better fit for BR's policy. We need team players, and Suarez is not one. Just give the new players a chance.
Plus, Suarez does not believe in BR's project. If he had, he would not be spouting all this rubbish in the media. The guy did not even have the courtesy to tell BR he wanted to leave in person. He ain't a Liverpool lad by a long shot, so why would he stay another season to burst his gut to help us get top4 when he could just join Real, Bayern etc and challenge for the league and europe? your proposition may be attractive to a lot of Liverpool fans, but it definitely won't appeal to suarez or his agent.
Mikey, what guarantee is there that when you cross a road later you won't get hit by a bus? Nothing is guaranteed, 50mill this season 30mill next, how would you feel about him going for 15-20mill this season? You sound desperate for him to go because of the reasons you have stated above so more or less getting your money back on the player would be ok with you (genuine question)?
Because if that's the opinion of a majority of fans then why do you think we will get 50mill for him?
Waro
No major disrespect intended to Waro and the other posters who have agreed with this ridiculous idea, but yo have clearly never run a business.
No business, football or otherwise would jepordise a 50m deal for 30 m when the variables which impact on it are myriad, for example, form, injury and the as yet unknown impact of financial fair play.
All of these could potentially have an impact on Suarez's value in the next 12 months. If the club is committed to selling him ( and they should be) then maximising his cost now is the only sensible financial move. Anything else is just nonsense, ask anybody who owns a business ( I do obviously) and they will tell you the same.
I agree with Buzzer, the options you put forward Waro, will not be attractive to Suarez and in any case, we should not be begging for him to stay.
The real AG
If a player wants to leave he's unlikely to bust a gut is he?
Need Proof look at Torres before he left?
Stupid post Waro!
24 Jun 2013 13:15:24
I wonder if there's a nice version of waro out there called maro?
Just kidding Waro, I actually totally agreed with your post. It winds me up that clubs like Napoli play hardball yet we're expected to roll over because Suarez is throwing a wobbly!
Its not a stupid post at all nameless poster, its an interesting concept which you don't have to agree with if you don't want to.
I remain unconvinced of the merits of the idea, but I have to agree with Waro that Suarez is probably one of the few footballers around that would give 100% on the pitch regardless of problems in the background.
Nonetheless, I still wouldn't want a reluctant player pulling on the red jersey.
BigBadBen
24 Jun 2013 09:53:29
A football question, not banter or LFC related.
1. When a player is fouled in the penalty area, a penalty given and this penalty converted successfully, the player who gets fouled, does he get the assist?
2. When a shot is deflected in for a goal, I understand that the Dubious Goal panel decides if the original shot was going in, if it was, the player gets the goal. But if the panel decides it was going wide, and decide to award an own-goal, does the player who shot get the assist?
I have seen conflicting data in the past, for example, "transfermakrt" gives assists in both cases while the FA website doesn't give assist in SOME cases.
The real AG {Ed002's Note - I really have no idea and quite frankly it is only goals that count.}
1. Yeah the player gets the assist, same for free kicks.
2 no idea mate haha
24 Jun 2013 09:48:04
Can't wait to see those gorgeous legs and fancy feet this week. no not Luis Suarez but Sharapova.
I'd rather paint the fence than watch tennis
Puzzled
Was thinking exactly the same puzzled red
24 Jun 2013 12:21:26
COULD NOT agree more Puzzled:))
[The only REDS]
Id drink the paint puzzled
I'd rather watch the paint dry on Puzzled's fence than watch tennis. Matt
Right that's sorted then - no more mention of tennis on this page
Puzzled
24 Jun 2013 09:42:34
This constant, unwarranted and pathetic abuse of the Editors need to stop! Seriously, what is wrong with these fools?
The likes of Liam, Leo and unnamed poster yesterday are examples of todays 'keyboard warriors'. They sit on their apse all day, have nothing constructive to contribute to anyone or anything and their sad personalities only find liberation through abuse of others, just because their views and thoughts (that they dream about, however unrealistic they are) are argued upon and pointed out as probably not feasible.
I think I speak for the majority on here when I say, you guys, either cut out the rubbish talk and the abuse or shut up!
The real AG {Ed002's Note - The Editors appreciate everyone's support.}
Bring back the 'agree' button just for this post
cozinoz
Agree :)
24 Jun 2013 09:32:22
Just noticed that Suarez is poting in English again! Does this mean he is changing his mind about leaving, or is he now interested in Citeh?
Jarv
24 Jun 2013 09:26:59
It's being reported that Liverpool are trying to swap
C Tello for Reina
Apparently Tello has a release clause of £8.5 million
And we value Pepe the same.
Don't know if this is true.
Any thoughts
Lurgan Red
Valdes staying 4 one more season mite make that harder again. plus i'm glad rodgers buying minjolet as reina been spouting and thinking he holds all the cards . all of a sudden the balls ain't all in his court! only option now maybe will be arsenal. coutois at athletico also. his preferred move(s) drying up and he's out again saying aw ill stay,
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I would love if it was true instead a astu as the winger we were chasing tello
23 Jun 2013 22:47:11
Eds and reds who do you see as the better player, I know they're both different in what they do but Suarez or Cavani?
Only seen Cavani play a few times and haven't been impressed. {Ed052's Note - I'd say Suarez. I don't think there are many better players}
I don't rate cavani he is another dezko over hyped but figured out in the premier league if he went suarez work rate is tops never stops hero on the pitch but yeno yourself
23 Jun 2013 20:50:58
A question too an ed our fellow red haw long has this site been up and running and who are the editors appreasate any reply thanks . Lfc fazak {Ed052's Note - Many many years. The Eds are many different people}
23 Jun 2013 19:16:56
Dear eds with the u 20 world cup kicking off who are the plauers to watch. don't have to be players inked with Liverpool just any stand out players. {Ed052's Note - I don't think you can go far wrong from watching Spains, Germanys, Italy etc}
23 Jun 2013 07:00:06
Hi ed I like your opinion on lfc signings and targets good footballers but I believe in the epl you need some muscle look at arsenal since 2005 they've won nothing the year viera left 2004 keown retired surely lfc need 2 or 3 players like this wanyana or Diame the Greek guy what do you think
24 Jun 2013 09:10:31
Morning eds, can I just ask, what do why think the future holds for Jordan Henderson? Is he leaving, is he staying? Tbh I hope he stays because he had a brilliant season
Cheers JCRED {Ed002's Note - I don't what the plans are for Henderson.}
I doubt henderson will be leaving any time soon. He has been brilliant in 2013, and if he can keep improving, we will have a damn good player on our hands. If BR wants to offload another midfielder apart from shelvey, it should be Allen. Allen's a good player, but Hendo is more versatile.
Allen is loved by Rogers he is one of his favourite players
24 Jun 2013 08:51:05
According to Sport.es Liverpool have reportedly agreed to meet the �10m (£8.5m) release clause written into Barcelona attacker Cristian Tello's contract.
Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers is keen to further improve his attacking options and is clearly aware of Tello's obvious potential.
Redman
At this rate we are going to have eight or nine left wingers for the first team and no centre backs .
8 or 9 wingers. About time we've been crying out for wingers for years. Would be a great signing if true and yet again more competition.
Alfie
At this rate we are going to have eight or nine poor left wingers for the first team and no centre backs .
24 Jun 2013 09:00:54
I don't care about the way he left, get nando back when Suarez leaves, always loved the way he played for us, yeah yeah the split was acrimonious to say the least but i'd still love him back, Just my opinion, no rumours
YNWA JFT96
I don't care about how he left us now, but I do care about the quality of players. And Fernando Torres has lost his quality. So no thanks. Time to look forward, not back.
KiwiRed
To be fair he sulked so much it was unreal. he wanted out! only turned it on against chelsea in his last 3 months because he knew there was intersest, his celebration was like " yes" because he knew he showed them again! not celebrating 4 the lfc end of things, he was playing well because january was coming and making sure chelsea would come in . shame as we all loved him .i don't want him at lfc . he cried out!
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The Feranando Torres, who sulked and strolled through games? Carragher pointed out the other day that when he didn't get the move he wanted, he refused to put in effort and just strolled through games.
That is very very unprofessional and I never want him back again.
The real AG
24 Jun 2013 08:38:08
Henrikh Mkhitaryan has signed according to Liverpool twitter site, then removed?
Eds any news on this? {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}
24 Jun 2013 08:20:37
Eds quick question, due to the known ownership issue of HM do you see us still buying the player? WIll it just be a case of being patient like the aspas deal? Or do you think we will turn our attentions elsewhere? Seems quite stupid to not understand his ownership details before:.
Dave {Ed002's Note - Liverpool were indeed made aware of the situation and they are certainly aware of the agent and representation costs. It is a case of (a) is the club still interested? and (b) can the club negotiate an acceptable deal. I would think a deal could still be done as no other clubs are interested in paying the sort of fee being looked for.}
24 Jun 2013 08:15:46
do we know if sturridge will be fit for the kick off?
24 Jun 2013 08:14:52
I've been watching the posts relating to suarez for some time and this is the first time I've decided to comment on it. I know it's already been done to death, but as more time passes I really don't see him going to Real. It looks like they may have 3 main targets in Luis, Cavani and Bale, all 3 would costs close to £200million, which I don't see happening. Ok, so Real may have some spending money this summer but that figure seems far too high (Spanish government not exactly in a position to bail them out of money problems anymore is it? ) I think suarez will be bottom of the list of 3. Of the other interested clubs we won't sell to City after all the comments about the British media, if he's happy to play in England, it will be for us. If he is going I think it will be to Bayern, juve or athletico. Real may come in with a late, low bid and we'll tell them to get stuffed. I do expect him to leave this summer but wouldn't be surprised if we got rid in january. The way he's been behaving in Brazil I'd be tempted to stick him in the reserves for the rest of his contract and let him rot, but that's just me.
24 Jun 2013 08:11:45
Henrikh Mkhitaryan not a happy chappie with all the commotion going on for his sig to join lfc. what does the guy expect for every one to be quiet and not say or speculate anything. last message on his twitter account is Going to be a good week!
Yea I bit like saying "don't talk about me" while winking and nodding your head up and down.
24 Jun 2013 05:42:08
Paul Ince's little boy is going to sign for Cardiff City at some point this week.
Looks like we dodged a bullet there and we'll get a few quid from the deal.
ANFIELDPETE
24 Jun 2013 01:01:29
Ed would it be safe to say we can still expect a quality centre-back and competition for Lucas to arrive in this window? Cheers.
ROI. {Ed002's Note - "Quality" is subjective but I am confident a deal can be done for Ilori plus I would expect another CB as well.}
24 Jun 2013 03:45:22
does anyone think iago aspas looks like mr bean?
Well hopefully he "silences" his critics ;-)
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That is 'Gold' MR Stars ;)
The real AG
Why thank you AG. like to lighten the mood on ere ;-)
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Lol love it :) shanks
It's Senor Bean!
24 Jun 2013 03:32:28
do you think Luis Alberto is a good buy for that price? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}
24 Jun 2013 00:28:09
Suarez, Aspas, Sturridge, Borini, Downing, Sterling, Alberto, Suso, Assaidi now linked to Tello and Ince how many attackers do we need!
Assaidi, Borini and Downing out suso on loan and probably Suarez to leave, what do you think ed.
Still hope to see two defenders in and two out.
Pepe also to leave he's not a bench warmer.
Clee Red
24 Jun 2013 00:14:00
Hi eds and reds, how long has the shirt sponsors got left and do you know if we are getting new ones, thanks eds {Ed002's Note - Another 5 years.}
24 Jun 2013 00:50:06
im really impressed that Rodgers and co have all but signed 4 players already especially migniolet and toure, and i'm looking forward to watching aspas, and alberto play next season.
but I must admit i'm also worried that there could be a massive overhaul of players due to the pace players are coming in which could mean another season of trying to settle to play the BR way?
don't get me wrong i'm excited by every new signing we make it was just a thought what do u think reds and eds?
MikeyD
Havent signed mignolet
24 Jun 2013 00:35:28
I don't want to sound pessimistic but I would just like to express a concern of mine. Rodgers has shown that he puts a lot of faith in youth. Wisdom, Sterling, Suso and Ibe all promoted from the academy, Allen, Borini, Sturridge, Coutinho and Yesil brought in during the transfer windows. Rodgers has added Alberto and Aspas already to that list and no doubt they won't be the last.
My problem is will these players actually get the chance to shine under Rodgers? Many believe this is the all or nothing season for Rodgers. If we get top 4 it is the beginning of a new generation. If we don't it is the end of Rodgers as Liverpool manager as we know it.
So if this opinion is to be believed, if we don't get top 4 and Rodgers gets the boot, what will happen to these starlets? Will they be able to fulfil their potential or will they be sold on? Clearly Rodgers sees them as the future of the club. Hopefully he can stay on and help them become stars, as they clearly have potential. Rodgers must be confident he will be here for the long-term with these young acquisitions, which is always a nice thing. Hopefully he will be here for a long time, maybe even a Fergie-esque period of time. Who knows. One thing is for sure, it is going to be a very interesting season and one I am looking forward to. Cheers.
ROI.
So if we don't win anything it's the beginning of a generation? This top four rubbish annoyes me immensely
It won't be the end of Rodgers if we don't get top 4, I don't know where you get things like this from
My worthless opinion:
I don't think Rodgers remit is top 4 or bust.
His remit is progress and building a squad. He is bringing in youth as part of the building progress. We don't have the money to buy 30-40 million pound players anymore. So Rodgers has to buy talent and then nurture that talent.
We have a brilliant academy. The owners don't want a brilliant academy who's players never progress.
Kenny put himself in a position of top 4 or bust by signing expensive or older players - Bellamy, Adam, Downing etc.
Rodgers will be given a chance to see the project through barring a complete disaster of a season.
24 Jun 2013 00:19:22
As a major skeptic, even I must admit I am quite pleased with BR's signings so far. Alberto is quality, you will all see, Aspas, my spanish friend believes will become a fan's favourite. Toure is experienced quality, and a free! Mkhitaryan would be a great addition. Liverpool have done their homework and myh hats off to the scouting team. They have set their targets and are getting them!
Please to see BR saying the club has the 'say' whether Suarez goes or NOT! I think they will make him stay unless Madrid comes with £50M+, which I very much doubt, so be prepared to have Suarez back with our new signings!
Really can't believe we're moving so fast, buying young quality (would've had to pay twice as much if they were British players). Looking good. HAVE FAITH FELLOW FANS. YNWA
24 Jun 2013 09:17:26
I agree Iranred, business been good so far. hoping we sign mickey and mignolet, and couple of defenders before the season kicks off. really excited for new season.
24 Jun 2013 00:14:54
Looks like we still are using the moneyball principles like the first transfer window with FSG when we bought Henderson because he made a lot of assists and Downing for the same reason. That time we only looked at the english market and overpaid for mediocre players. Both have improved but I think we all can agree that we paid more that their value at the time. Seems to me that we have tweaked the principles and started to look into different markets with but still focusing on statistics. Now we have bought Aspas that have a great statistics with combined over 20 goals+assists last season. If you look at Luis Alberto I'm pretty sure he has the most assist in segunda division and on top of that he scored 11 goals.
Mkhitaryan also have a impressive statistics with 25 goals in 35 matches last season. Now it looks for me that we are not buying the most hyped players, but we are getting value for money. Time will tell if this works, but I'm sure we would never win the league if we tried to do the same as the rest.
Our strategy has changed since the departures of Kenny and Comolli.
OP, you know nothing if you believe we use this 'Moneyball' strategy.
The real AG
23 Jun 2013 23:55:55
Tello is just the rumour of the week guys chill out he wants to stay at barca
23 Jun 2013 23:18:22
ozone reminds me of me under kenny. I agree with a lot of what he says and to be fair he was asked about who he would get in and I agree again . listen people .its a good debate to have difference of opinion . it makes d world go around and provides our fingers with typing time.I understand that everyone is not blown away with the signingd we have made . My take is that br must be cock sure on what he is embarking on . by that I mean hie must have gr8 beleif in his system and d jigsaw he is trying to complete. I like the technical abilities of the players brought in . keep the ball hi intensity etc. but I just hope 4 some steel. wanyama r diame because u need that 4 when d fancy stuff isn't quite working in d odd game. i'd also like a soldado r villa for some clinical end to things but aspas looks good. everything is open to debate. it won't ruin my xmas if someone bashes my post. just stop asking the same rubbish. I scroll down and read it ain't hard
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Fingers crossed BR has belief in his system and confidence in the players he brings in; but also more importantly the players he brings in have confidence in themselves.
I also agree about a Wanyame type player; when I first read the headline "Liverpool sign Toure", my jaw dropped a little as I thought it was Yaya lol.
Lucas isn't strong enough for the position he plays in or the type of role he is supposed to be playing in our type of system.
We need a big physical presence in that defensive midfield area who can barge players off the ball and in general just barge past them too.
Saying that, I am also content that it was Kolo we got; he brings a vast amount of experience with him and has a good 3-4 years in him yet, so very shrewd I think.
If we get the players we need (And an adequate replacement should Suarez leave), then i'll have high hopes for the season ahead.
SR (StrabaneRed)
24 Jun 2013 00:49:46
I don't give a sh*t which player rodgers sells or brings, at the end of the day he has to deliver, and this time they will be no excuses and the amount of money spent is just going up, since he has been appointed, he has enjoyed extremely backing by FSG and everything will be clear next season and the money spent since his appointment.
23 Jun 2013 22:35:13
Hi eds my questions never make the website but I was thinking Liverpool seem to have more money than last summer with all thise links would you say that's the case?
Dave {Ed002's Note - They have some goodies to sell.}
23 Jun 2013 21:55:09
Hi eds is there any interest in Coates?
Icered {Ed002's Note - Not too much - perhaps some from Italy and South America.}
23 Jun 2013 21:34:00
Eds, the search function showed RTPs in general for my following questions, and the others were around 10 days old. I just wanted to check the Suarez situation is as it was in that Real Madrid will most likely buy him for £50m (I know you don't like talking money sorry) or >£25m + a player?
Also do you still believe we won't buy a replacement, as that leaves us very short on striking options in terms of those who can play on their own in a 4231 formation- Sturridge + Borini (Aspas and alberto are both more comfortable as one of the Left or Right forwards in a 433), and these two have had serious injury problems. We can't repeat last year's situation where Suarez was our only fit striker. A top striker such as a Gomez, Jovetic, Muriel. (Benteke I feel is too similar a player to Sturridge) And this I believe could prove the difference this year in us finishing inside or outside the top 4.
This is an oppurtunity, in my opinion, we really need to capitalise on, with all of last years top 3 adapting to new managers, the year the team have had to gel with BR could prove very decisive, particularly with a much easier start (touchwood) on paper this year fixtures wise, if one of Chelsea, City or United screw up a couple of early games we could be in the driving seat.
I also feel Skrtel has to go as he can't keep up with BRs attacking, possession based system and has looked all over the place in times this season (losing us the 2-1 lead with awful mistakes against City home and away) and a top quality, young centre back i.e. Alderwiereld, Sakho and Papadopolous (Admittedly the latter isn't that technical either but his defensive quality is too high to dismiss) has to be bought in to replace him. I rate Kelly but don't feel this is the year to bring through a centre half.
As I have afore mentioned I'm not to keen on Enrique at left back, and would ideally have him replaced with Alex Sandro, but at this moment in time, that seems unlikely.
If we can stay mostly injury-free in key positions (Gerrard, Agger, Lucas, Sturridge all are prone to niggles), bring in Mkhitaryan and one of both the striking and defensive options I previously mentioned, I really believe we can reach the top four this year. Maybe I have slight bias but we look almost as good a team with those signings as 08/09 when we should've won the league (the difference: Xabi).
Thanks eds for your work, I hope my views don't come across as too biased or unrealistic.
Kopendlad {Ed002's Note - I can't say who is most likely to buy Suarez but there is interest from a number of sides in Spain, Italy, Germany and England. For centre backs there are options out there - price will be a driver.}