Liverpool Banter Archive June 24 2014

24 Jun 2014 23:45:28
Seeing the England team in action against 'quality' opposition highlights how overvalued English players in the premier league are. eg 25Mill for Lallana? Really? I agree that he is proven in the EPL and at a decent price would be a good addition to the squad, but we are looking to strengthen in preparation for CL football, as well as having strength in depth to cope with the Premiership. If we as a club are going to be spending 'big money' or a good proportion of the notional transfer kitty on 1 player, surely we want players who have proven themselves in European football or/ and tournament football. I agree that buying or dismissing players based on a tournament performance is somewhat shallow, but all information must be used.
On a really positive note, I thought our own Daniel Sturridge was the outstanding player for England, showing great skill and determination. More of the likes of him please Brendan / board.

25 Jun 2014 03:10:17
I cannot agree with you more on this one Oxford. It's been bugging me for so long that PL teams have the nerve to ask the prices for the English players. Downing 20m.?? Carroll 35m.??
I like Lallana, I think he's a great footballer, but come on 25m. is crazy money for someone like him. Just look at other players in his position from other countries and we can get someone his quality for half a price I guarantee!!

I agree but Lallana is a top player IMO. Maybe not world class at all but don't forget he knows the EPL and that is priceless

25 Jun 2014 13:55:15
I'm sorry gareth, but that's not a good argument. There are tons of players in the EPL, that's just not good enough reason to pay over the odds. Again, Downing, Carroll, etc.

24 Jun 2014 23:41:25
I was hoping Suarez would stay but now I think it would be best for everyone if he took his sideshow to Spain. Irrespective of how good he is, the guys a liability and we cannot allow him to bring the great name of our beloved club down with his behaviour.
I'm sure we could identify some top striker who will fill his shoes and bring him in as a replacement.
FSG and BR must be tearing their hair out right now. Expect the hierarchy to sanction a sale imminently.

24 Jun 2014 23:35:27
All I got to say on the matter is chiellini get a tetanus shot because god knows where Ivanovic has been!

He should worry more about HIV and hepatitis B and C.

24 Jun 2014 23:36:46
If I can get back to other Liverpool stuff. was any one else diappointed lambert didn't get a run out tonight?

Agreed. We needed a more sensible striker out front

Are you not surprised with woy as manager?

25 Jun 2014 09:07:13
Bitterly so. I don't understand the mentality of playing Sturridge all game or bringing Rooney on. They have both played, we aren't going through the group stage and RL deserved his chance.

I'd have liked to have seen his link up play with his former team mates, I think England could have benefitted from it. Lallana coming off seemed rather strange too. I certainly don't think England will progress with roy as manager making such personic decisions

24 Jun 2014 23:10:59
Well Eds, if a deal for Suarez is going to be done, I sincerely hope a hush hush massive deal has already been done as his value will surely decrease now after his totally disgraceful bite on Chiellini tonight. Leopards and spots.

24 Jun 2014 23:41:19
You'll be lucky.

Listen, you gambled on keeping him when he did this for the second time and it paid off, he's got you into the champions league.

Now let's hope you do the right thing and sell him quick and keep the finances private. That I think would be a classy way to do it. Without letting this troubled player do any further damage to your club.

24 Jun 2014 22:43:23
Heres a question,
Say saurez gets a long international ban but this does not effect his domestic football and just say no club would touch him i'm terms of transfer, should Liverpool self impose a ban and if u think so how long would u think?

personally i'm sure there must be some breach of contract here, if Liverpool sacked him could they then sue him? Ala mutu? I know mutu was for drugs but it was a breach that allowed Chelsea to deal with him and do the right thing but if I remember right they then went on to successfully sue the pants off him.

24 Jun 2014 23:28:43
As much as what he did was stupid it would even more stupid for us to put a ban on him. I know your a united fan and you might have a slight bit of hope that we would but I can't see it happening.

I doubt Liverpool will give him a huge ban but I doubt Suarez can complain if they do. He cannot be fired and sued, sorry he can but it is illogical to defend him up to this point only to release him. We all know what he is like, it won't have an affect on his transfer as everyone knows what he is like.

24 Jun 2014 22:34:46
I believe the maximum penalty that can be handed out by fifa is 24 matches OR a 2 year ban for such offences.it has already been suggested that a 1 year international ban could be coming mr suarez way assuming he is found guilty!And please do not be fooled into thinkin FIFA do not have the powers to ban a footballer domestically although at this stage seems unlikely.

Andy

24 Jun 2014 22:29:08
Told you Johnson will go.

24 Jun 2014 22:06:39
As an ex professional player who has contacts within the game I can confirm that Liverpool football club are quite rightly appalled by luis Suarez's behaviour. He is in severe danger of being released from his contract. Discussions are on going

24 Jun 2014 22:15:46
Not in a million years will his contract be terminated. For many obvious reason.

Haha get real

There'll be days of condemnation and then LFC fans will start to rally behind him again. Club will say all the right things and attempt to maximise their investment. My gut instinct was he would leave anyway. This time I think the club will sell. But it will cost us both financially and in image terms yet again. He's disgraced our club several time and shamed the WC twice in 4 years. Unfortunately he will be remembered for this stuff more than the quality of his football. Adios Luis. I will never really know quite what I think of you. Pity?Anger?Frustration?Suspicion? We laugh at Mario with his Why Always Me? act but he's an amateur compared to you.

24 Jun 2014 22:40:19
I doubt even the owners know what to do about suarez nevermind your "contacts". to even consider releasing someone of suarez value ( even now ) to a club in lfcs financial situation is complete nonsense

Liverpool knew he was nuts when he was signed. Liverpool didn't give up on him when he bit Ivanovic. Why would Liverpool give up on him now?

24 Jun 2014 22:57:55
Well, we can sack him for breach of contract and then sue him for costs of a replacement player and lost earnings for not being able to sell him like Chelsea did with Mutu.

But given that Mutu dragged that out with appeals for years, and I think Juventus are still appealing it because they've been deemed partly liable for some of the compo because they signed him after he was sacked, I reckon the club will simply take the most expedient route and sell him.

You're probably right, but if his contract was cancelled, doesn't that effectively mean we don't pay his wages but we retain his playing licence and can therefore still command a transfer fee?

Given his track record, it's not inconceivable that there would be a clause in his contract containing heavy sanctions for acts such as biting, which I would assume is gross misconduct.

Eds, do you have a view on whether a fine, ban or sacking is viable/likely?

{Ed001's Note - it has only just happened, the club haven't even considered yet.}

I am not confirming anything just passing on what I have heard. Will have to see what the club agree after the discussions are complete but I am led to believe Liverpool are looking at their options from a legal point of view due to financial loss as a result of Suarez's actions but who knows what will happen when the dust settles. I do not have contacts I have friends that are fully engaged in these discussions. Suarez is in for a shock when the club do contact him because they are hugely disappointed!

25 Jun 2014 00:16:20
Dont be silly. The club wouldn't just release him from his contract.
They might sell him though

24 Jun 2014 21:59:00
This really is getting ridiculous! I think LFC must sell Suarez. We defended him too many times but after a great season when it seems he has overcome his problems, they have entered back. I don't think this will affect LFC much in terms of bans so it probably won't make a difference to any other clubs trying to buy him. I would certainly take 50m plus Sanchez.

24 Jun 2014 21:52:23
Heres my stupid theory re mr Suarez.
He bites his opponent when he played for Ajax and forced his move, then he bites again playing for us against chelsea when he first started wanting away. Now there's been all the rumours re a spanish move so what does he do today!
My theory is he is pushing LFC into a corner where they will sell him for a much lower price than the money they really want for him so he gets the move he wants.
Stupid as I said.

Yeah mate quite stupid as he loves playing for Uruguay and wouldn't sacrifice playing in the rest of the tournament for the reasons that you mention! He clearly has a lot of issues and struggles greatly to control himself. This is the most conclusive proof of that being the case unfortunately.

Well let's just see how stupid it is when we only get a third of the price for him.

You're quite right.

He's trying to lower his price so he gets a move. I hope FIFA does impose a word wide 2yr ban on him, then he will be released from his contract.

I don't care how good he is, he is not worth the baggage.

24 Jun 2014 21:43:11
Question: What Religion is Luis Suarez?
Answer: Chewish

Made me laugh.

24 Jun 2014 21:31:29
I'm not going to endorse selling Luis Suarez. Yes he has let himself down, yes he has let his country down, his club down and his family down.
We already knew he was nuts, we already knew he has had that flaw in him and we still kept him and he has rewarded us with a 30 goal season. For anyone to think he had turned a corner was ludicrous. 26 years of stupidity cannot be lost in a season but I for one will not boo him, or call for him to be sold, its unlikely we will get the 90 million for him now. This morning a lot of us were arguing how we needed to keep him. I just don't see how one incident should change all of that.

That's the thing, Calmdown. It's not just an incident. It's now a repetition of previous behaviour that Football Associations and teams have deemed unacceptable and banned. Many of us believed that he had turned the corner and reformed (would he have won player of the year, otherwise?). But the ugly beast has reared its head again. I honestly don't see how he can play at Anfield ever again. There would be considerable backlash from fans and the Press would have a field day with their spicing up of the most minor issues. He simply has to go. The question (and headache) now is how to collect the maximum for his transfer.

It's not just one incident though is it Calmdown?

Evra & Ivanovic ring any bells?

24 Jun 2014 21:22:53
Oh no, I've just woken from a a terrible knightmare. What happened was we went to the World Cup and the Liverpool players looked a shadow of what they had during the season, we only got one point and we limped out at the group stages. Added to that Suarez scored twice against virtually knocking us out in the process and then, in a decider against Italy, bit a player again.
Joking aside fellow Reds this may well be the beginning of the end for Luis Suarez in a Liverpool shirt. Keep the memories of his talent in alive because one day you'll be telling your children of his special talent. Unfortunately in the same conversation you may also be trying to explain his behaviour.
He should not kick another ball in this World Cup, he may not kick another ball for Uruguay for many, many games. Then there is Liverpool. The fans and the club have united to support the man through thick and thin but there was only so much we can take. He is taking the pi&&
I have read comments on how he would be gone if he wasn't so good and it is only his talent that has kept him at the club. I agree that his talent has probably been the major contributing factor to him still being here but he does look like he gives everything every time he plays and his effort and commitment on the pitch is as high as I've ever seen.
I have read comments about engineering a move and was almost convinced after the last time. This is different. Whether we like it or not he loves Uruguay more than he will ever love Liverpool. So to suggest that he would risk not only this campaign but possibly ever playing for them again just to engineer a move is extremely difficult to believe. That said so is biting opponents at least THREE times on the pitch. It is simply a massive flaw in his personality.
I just hope that someone has had the sense and bottle to insert some sort of conditions in his recent huge contract. Conditions such as " If you ever drag the Club through this crap again with anything resembling your recent conduct you are out on your ass without a penny owing to you".
Unfortunately I doubt it. I can't remember enjoying watching a Liverpool player as much as I do Suarez since I was running around with a Johnny Barnes number 10 sewn into my Candy strip. I equally can't remember being as let down by a player in all that time. I'm embarrassed and gutted in equal measure. We promote justice, it cannot be conditional. He deserves everything that is coming to him and all that may be taken away from him.

24 Jun 2014 21:16:57
SUAREZ = DISGRACE!

This behavior can never be excepted! It hurts to know that he also wears the red shirt. I will be so happy if he leaves and the great Chilean Sanchez replaces him and form the new SAS with Studge.

24 Jun 2014 21:12:55
He's dragged the name of our great club through the mud again. If anyone will take him, get rid. I'm absolutely furious with him.

24 Jun 2014 21:06:13
After such a good season, during which it appeared that Suarez had turned a corner, I hope that the club is not tarnished by this latest incident - just when Gerrard thought the worst was over! I'm now looking forward to building the team without Suarez and everything he brings with him. Let's hope he leaves without too much fuss. There are still exciting times ahead folks! YNWA

24 Jun 2014 21:02:20
Apparently Fifa can impose a football ban on a player at all levels (which includes club football). Even if it requires certain agreement from Uefa and the FA, I can't see them having any objections.

I understand that you can get carried away in the heat of the moment in football and have a kick at an opponent or put a hard tackle in, but not to this degree. You could clearly see him run about 20yrds to be right behind him (which was not for positioning) in order to bite him so must have been planned in his mind to do it. To me that just makes it even worse.

{Ed002's Note - This would be very rare - typically different FAs continue bans from one country to another.}

24 Jun 2014 21:00:23
Luis grab a snickers. Why?. Because you turn into a right diva when your hungry

LOL, now that's funny

24 Jun 2014 20:52:33
One of two things will happen I think. The World Cup is a FIFA tournament, so I can't see him being banned from the epl. Cl is uefa, so in theory he shouldn't be banned. So option 1) FIFA to ban him under there "all football" rule. Option 2) just banned from FIFA ( international ) games. Seems plausible ed?

{Ed002's Note - We will see. People should be more concerned about the club that the potential ban.}

24 Jun 2014 21:07:50
Don't get me wrong ed. I want him gone, I'm just more concerned no one will buy him if he's banned from cl and somewhere like la ligue

24 Jun 2014 20:46:03
Its quite clear to me that Luis Suarez has to go ASAP. Quite simply if a dog were to do that we would have it put down. He is a human being with the lowest of principles and once again has caused embarrassment to the great club that is LFC his fellow players and all of our fans. I`ve heard some fans already standing behind him. I`m really sorry but for me he is a liability and a massive negative to the good name of all our club stands for. I was a professional footballer for over 10 years in the late 70s and early 80s and was with my native and beloved Liverpool till I was 16. I would have seated blood to have stayed there and given anything to have had a longer time at Liverpool and I was a no nonsense full back who never took any prisoners, but I would have stooped as low as Suarez has on 3 occasions now. Its not passion or endeavour or the pursuit to win at all costs. What he does is just cowardice of the worst form. We must sell him after we do some work to minimise the damage if possible. I would take 60 million right now before the person gets a 2 year or even a life time ban. He is a walking time bomb and will never learn. Sorry fellow reds if you disagree but he is not the sort of role model we would like our sons and daughters to try and imitate.

Royzered I hate to admit it but I 100% agree with what you have said. As much as we all know Suarez is world class his behaviour is absolutely appalling and cannot be tolerated any longer. He must be sat down and strongly told that is behaviour is completely unacceptable. Liverpool football club need to release a statement stating that they do not condone his behaviour and look at moving him on at the earliest opportunity. He obviously needs some professional help with his anger management issues and I hope he gets all the help he needs, I just hope he gets the help at another club far away from Liverpool!

24 Jun 2014 21:31:22
He has been told his behaviour is unacceptable many times before and has also received support and professional help from Liverpool. He has obviously took no notice what so ever and will continue to act this way in the future.

24 Jun 2014 20:43:22
sigh. suarez has just bitten chiellini. is it a case of 3 strikes and your out. seems troubled and there must be psychological reasons for him to be so troubled, do you see potential suitors being deterred by this and what ramifications do you think will come his way. I personally think that most clubs in europe would still take him.

24 Jun 2014 20:55:37
The club have offered him ample help with whatever psychological problems he has & he has been unreceptive. There is only so much you can help someone until you wake up and realise enough is enough.

24 Jun 2014 20:36:53
Hello Eds, hello fellow Reds!
I have been reading posts on this site for a long time now and it has been a fascinating journey so far! As an observer I could only read, laugh, get annoyed sometimes or bemused but never had a time to get involved. till now. THANK YOU LUIS, you just made me register! Wife? She can wait, I will join her in bed later, kids? I will give them money tomorrow. NOW is the moment! :)
Well, well, well. Now you all see how much Luis loves Liverpool! He just ended the speculation linking him with La Liga without saying a single word! Instead of using his tongue to express his desire to stay, he used his teeth to mark a new chapter on the bloke's shoulder! Vampires never die, you know?
Now what? Will players insist on playing in armours against Suarez from now on? Will he be forced to have his teeth removed and risk to look like my Dad when he lost his denture?.
On a serious note - I love him as a player, I am patient and forgiving guy but enough is enough.
More to follow from me, not on this subject though. There are more interesting things to talk about.

24 Jun 2014 20:26:35
I don't think the club will get punished in this latest scandal. I'm pretty sure other players have done things at tournamounts or even away on international duty and done something.

If they try we will no doubt use a variety of examples were other players have carried out things and it's stayed within international games.

Fingers crossed. If there was any talk of a deal away from Anfield it will surely been have been put on hold now until punishment is confirmed.

I don't think (correct me if I'm wrong )the ban he will receive will be able to be imposed in England but I'm sure people will be looking for Liverpool to impose a ban.

24 Jun 2014 21:11:36
You guys are missing the point of this latest debacle (if it should be proven) if all you're worried about is how it might impact games he can play at our club. It is a disgrace too far. and the kind of mud it generates tends to stick for a very long time.

Ok off the high horse mate. Of course we are concerned about the image of the club.

My line of thinking is if there is only an international ban and not a domestic ban then it's better in relation to selling. If he was also banned domestically it becomes more problematic to move him on.

24 Jun 2014 20:22:37
leopards can't change their spots as a man he is a disgrace as a players he is a god sadly he will always be known for this crap

24 Jun 2014 20:16:44
hi eds/reds I am absolutely distraught, that Suarez is after going and doing this again, the tv station I watched it on reckon maybe he could get a 2yr ban if so I only pray its a international ban but if its not.what a disaster for the club it will be, I know the ref didn't see that, but its inevitable that he is going to get a ban.if its only a international ban "which I am praying it is" as much as I love suarez and I wanted him so much to stay, if madrid r barcelona still come a calling let him off, plus if it works out that way we won't get near the money we should get for him.my lord he has let us down so bad again.

24 Jun 2014 20:12:34
Suarez.suarez, it wall all affect Liverpool more than the imbecile of a man. But tbh I find it.funny because.its unbelievable.

24 Jun 2014 20:10:32
That to me shows saurez wants to stay at Liverpool lol

24 Jun 2014 20:00:53
quick question eds,
could FIFA (or even the FA) implement a ban after suarez's 'bite' that affects his club football (ie with us)?
However, regardless of the answer to this I think everyone who has posted negative things about him are extremely fickle and stupid. every single Liverpool fan loved him last year and we all knew his problems then, he has shown them and now everyone has turned on him. yes what he did is stupid but be grateful he did it at the world cup and not for his us.
George Best was equally troubled and his drunken actions brought shame on the red rubbish but they stuck by him and admired his genius. we have to do the same, accept he will do things that are inexplicable and simply marvel at his genius with the ball and enjoy watching him.
Selling him is simply pointless as no amount of money will ever enable us to replace him, there's no-one nearly as good as him in the World.
The 'image of the club' is not what is reflected badly on by these actions, it is just him (and possibly Uruguay). it shows how well Liverpool have managed him by how he's acted at Liverpool all season. Some will say he's harming us by being banned and while that is true, i'd rather have him for 30 games a season than 0. i'm sure I'll get some stick for this but it is the truth, we should stand by our own players and thank suarez for SINGLE-HANDEDLY taking us back into Europe.
Thanks

{Ed002's Note - Trying to make this about the likes of George Best is really embarrassing. It says nothing good about how Liverpool have handled him - quite the opposite. The image of the club has been damaged yet again by Suarez. Posts like this are pitiful. If he has done this then he needs to accept whatever punishment is coming. I will re-iterate, regardless of when Suarez leaves Liverpool he will give a wretched excuse saying he has been dealt with unfairly by the FA - which will give a true reflection on him as a human being.}

24 Jun 2014 20:20:20
It's OK excusing a teething baby from biting people, but even they don't do it as much as him. We are talking about a grown man (supposedly) who is clearly talented, and I still think is the best player in the world, but he continues to metaphorically shit on the clubs reputation and expect the club's hierarchy to wipe his arse for him when he does stupid stuff like this. No more excuses, he has to go.

Ryanthered - you have no idea of what being a fan of LFC is all about, if that's your view. It's not about geography, as you seem to think. It's about supporting a sport team with high standards, high morals and high human values, both on and off the field. Even if the team is continents away (which has been my case the past 35 years). Yes, we support every single player but subject to certain standards. minimal

Keep Bestie out of it! The only person George ever hurt was himself. He was also a truely nice and humble guy.

{Ed001's Note - I have to agree, Suarez is nothing like Best, who was a genuinely nice guy who just suffered from being painfully shy.}

Suarez is not fit to lace George Best's boots.

24 Jun 2014 20:40:15
im sorry -el pistolero- but firstly he's done it 3 times, I can guarantee you that a 'teething baby' bites more than that!
also this incident happened 7000 miles away from Liverpool in a blue shirt of Uruguay. it doesn't affect our reputation (unless the club publicly supports him again), only his.
there is no point in selling him as we would never receive the amount of money he's worth because of his behaviour and so all that will happen will be to weaken our team.

You are the only person who thinks being an alcoholic is the same biting a fellow professional.

On the flip side, you are the only person (I hope anyway) who thinks that Luis Suarez is a better footballer than Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi.

Ryanthered - so you're saying his 35 goals excuse his recurring bouts of attempted cannibalism? And what does that do for the club's image and reputation? Does that matter at all to you? Read the rest of the posts on this page, and see what the rest of us think of his 35 goal contribution against this completely unacceptable behaviour. I wonder how loud the boos and whistles will be if he walks onto the grass of Anfield ever again. It's a complete no-win situation for both him and club. But best for all concerned that he bow out now, before he is shown the door. With thanks for the 35 goals.

24 Jun 2014 20:34:01
thanks for the reply ed2, and that may well be your opinion, which you are entitled to. and you clearly don't like him.
however, the comparison is not embarrassing. I didn't make it about George best simply used him as an example- 2 mentally troubled players, both cause embarrassment but both are brilliant.
I will always support suarez as he has 2 clear things that are most important. clear passion for the club and desire to win (which he showed all last season) and an unbelievable ability- that at times makes an entire game all about him.
quite frankly I couldn't give 2 craps about his personality. he may be a horrible person, he may be the worlds biggest arsehole. But he is also the worlds best footballer. and it is that which is most important. so I'll be supporting him and enjoying his incredible talent which is a joy to watch and crucial to Liverpool at this moment in time. without him last year I highly doubt we would have made top 4

{Ed002's Note - It was simply a pitiful post that would have embarrassed many Liverpool fans. Trying to draw comparisons in the case is just a nonsense. Best was sick - Suarez is a nasty little shit and a poor excuse for a human being. Everyone knows that.}

24 Jun 2014 20:52:13
Alcoholism & Cannibalism are not comparable illnesses. I don't want to delve into the specifics of how much a child bites when they're teething but I think you missed the critical point to the analogy in that this is a child, not a 27 year old man who is completely responsible for his actions.

As Football represents a lot more than just a game you should be concerned about the messages players send out & whether we want to be associated with this lunatic anymore.

24 Jun 2014 20:53:12
no its obviously not the same but both cause embarrassment to their club, that was my point.
of course his behaviour is totally unacceptable, but it was nothing to do with our club and I will judge a footballer on his football and suarez is the best. the success of Liverpool is what matters most to me and I sincerely believe that keeping him is the best way for our success next season.
and @ 'believe' maybe you didn't watch much football last year but let me tell you Suarez was the best. the Spanish league contains 10-12 teams who go the big grounds accepting defeat, easy goals. not only this but none of these players create anywhere close to the number of chances for their team-mates as suarez and both were in much stronger teams. I love messi, think he is incredible but not as good as suarez.

{Ed002's Note - It is a great deal to do with Liverpool, and their sponsors.}

24 Jun 2014 20:56:02
and ed2, you cannot call someone 'nasty' unless you personally know them. he may do things stupid that doesn't make him nasty, he may well also be 'sick' - he could easily have some form of mental illness.
as I can't buy into this he's thick rubbish. no-one as intelligent on a pitch as suarez who can fluently speak 4 languages is stupid. i'm sorry he's just not stupid.

{Ed002's Note - Suarez is a pitiful excuse for a human being who has bitten at least three players, racially abused at least one player, taken one club to court, threatened to go on strike at another, dived and cheated during games, lied to the Liverpool fans, spent an entire summer plotting an escape from the club, threatened the club legally and cost Kenny Dalgliesh his job as Liverpool manager. That was perhaps the time for the fans to support the club and Dalgliesh - but know, they went with the runt. It is nothing whatsoever to do with how many languages he speaks.}

Sometimes I genuinely despair at some of the whoppers that call themselves fans.

I am sorry Ryan but this isn't the school playground. I get it, Suarez is your favourite player in the whole wide world. But he's also a massive dick. Deal with it.

RTR, you are delusional my friend, in more ways than one.

You are trying to defend the indefensible, a man who has BITTEN three separate opponents and racially abused another.

All this while also trying to convince yourself that somehow Luis Suarez is better than Lionel Messi & Cristiano Ronaldo, both of whom scored more goals than Suarez last season, over a goal a game in Ronaldo's case. You must be trying to convince yourself, because nothing could convince me or anyone else who has a clue about football, otherwise. We work on facts.

Suarez (a striker) couldn't even beat Ronaldo's (a winger) best season at Manchester United and Ronaldo has gone on to become twice the player he was when at Old Trafford. Now, Messi hasn't played in England, but I think if you have a little look online you might find a few stats that mean that is irrelevant surrounding the little Argentina genius. He is a four time Ballon d'Or at 27 btw & Ronaldo a two time winner of the award. Suarez at 27 is a zero time Ballon d'Or. These facts speaks for themself.

He's a great player, but take the tinted glasses off, he's not even on the same planet as Messi or Ronaldo.

For me Luis is sick
Psychologically sick
He needs help as well
He must meet a psychologist or even a psychiatrist

24 Jun 2014 19:52:10
Oscar Tabarez is claiming that the British media have an agenda against Suarez; which was applauded by all the Uruguayan journalists in the room (who seem to think it's funny).

Src: BBC

Thing is though, it won't just be the British press, it will be the Italian media et al now.

{Ed002's Note - The press have nothing against Suarez - everything is a self inflicted wound, the issues with Evra, the serial biting, the legal action against clubs, the lying, the cheating - you could not invent a player like this.}

24 Jun 2014 20:31:42
There is no agenda from the media, he brings it all on himself. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for the Evra situation, maybe it was simply a cultural difference? The Ivanovic bite was shocking to say the least, but the last campaign was an effective remedy and I genuinely thought that maybe he had turned a corner, now I hope he goes. Done.

We will see if they still think it's funny when he gets a whopping international ban and Uruguay get knocked out in his absence.

25 Jun 2014 06:04:00
I totally agree with what you are saying Ed002. What I was trying to say is that the press are really going to have a field day with this incident

24 Jun 2014 19:42:58
Everyones.shouting ban him do this etc, Liverpool could possibly lose a huge player if he gets a.lifetime ban with no way.of replacing him. If he gets a x amount ban and stays at Liverpool, we still lose a player and he is damaging our clubs brand. This will have a huge impact on the.club what's to come.

24 Jun 2014 20:12:24
Except we gain £200k p/w unless the club have drawn up a very stupid contract, which is unlikely.

24 Jun 2014 19:48:24
Time for Luis to go I have not cheered for one goal he scored since the Chelsea incident I can honestly say I hope he gets a life time ban and never plays again.

You haven't cheered for one goal that he has scored? That's easy to say now. I find that hard to believe (and look at my name)!

24 Jun 2014 19:39:05
I don't think Barcelona or Madrid would touch Suarez with a barge-pole after this latest debacle.

If they do, it'll be at a reduced price which will cost the club lots of coin we could have gotten otherwise.

The price will still be what we value him at or his clause says!id be surprised if anyones interested now

24 Jun 2014 19:37:58
I quite fancy an Italian for dinner tonight for some reason.

Get in there Mikey boy.

24 Jun 2014 19:36:36
Eds, sorry for posting about the Suarez incident again. A serious question though, could this effect his price or clubs interest? Or could some kind of sanctions be imposed which puts Liverpool in a difficult position with a player, unable to play, on high wages and no clubs to sell to? Thanks a bunch Eds, stellar work as usual.

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to money, but for now we need to wait to see if he is charged and, if found culpable, what sanctions are imposed. The club must hold off making any knee jerk statement and I expect that they will. In the first instance the club's responsibility will be to the sponsors - who won't be happy.}

It's definitely put the club in a bad position. They were probably happy to cash in on him this summer but this incident has once again disrupted their plans in all likelihood. Another summer dominated by Luis.

24 Jun 2014 20:03:50
Thanks Ed, I understand you wish not to talk about money, it does indeed leave the club in a precarious situation.

24 Jun 2014 19:30:04
Liverpool have withheld comments on their article about the Uruguay game on the official site. I really hope they don't try to sweep this under the carpet, this is something that has to be dealt with, either he goes or he needs to see real punishment, this is not acceptable! Who on earth will buy him after this though?

I am sorry, but Liverpool have every right to exclude this from their website. They have the intentions of supporting the international players, and the incident was not even a major point in terms of the game itself. They won't sweep it under the carpet internally, I can guarantee that.

24 Jun 2014 19:56:29
I'm not suggesting they don't have a right to do that, all I'm saying is after the last couple of incidents with Suarez the club have been over-supportive; contributing to KK losing his job in the initial one.

I'm glad they withheld comments until the situation becomes more clear for the record.

24 Jun 2014 19:28:59
Why isn't the Uruguayan team feeding Suarez? Poor lads starving for Italian and no one would get him any!

24 Jun 2014 19:25:22
Edd002 if I can get your imput mate. What.Suarez has.done again is just.beyond belief. With ban.looming this would surely put off.suiters or what they would now be willing to pay? Why would any club want.that

{Ed002's Note - I haven't seen it and he will remain innocent until any charge is proven. This really should not be a shock if he has done it - and clubs already know what they would be getting. A very good player who has no ability to contain himself.}

Haha no ability to contain himself, this made me laugh ed. He is clearly a bit soft in the donut despite the obvious footballing talent. I don't think its contrived to get a move though, he is just a supreme muppet. I bet his missus doesn't mind his nibbling ablities though!

25 Jun 2014 06:15:20
Quickie for Ed002.

Could the English FA ban Suarez for this latest misdemeanour or is it purely a matter FIFA?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I would think it a FIFA only matter.}

24 Jun 2014 19:19:07
regardless of his actions, stand by the man. I bet all of you spitting out your venoms at suarez today will be praising him come the start of the season when he's back to his goal scoring ways. YNWA is our club motto, there's no accept or unless or if you do this then p off stuck in there.

{Ed001's Note - seriously? So getting repeated bans costing Liverpool are not a bother to you? What happened to morals?}

24 Jun 2014 19:32:21
And what about if Aspas behaved the same, would you support him? Considering half our supporters weren't backing him when he wasn't even playing! Need to take off your tinted shades mate, this is one time too many

24 jun 2014 19:34:01
i have been the biggest suarez fan here. and he should be sold immediately. nothing and absolutelly nothing above my club.

24 Jun 2014 19:34:20
This may just be the craziest post I've read all day, this guy is a serial offender and I expect the club atleast to impose serious punishments on him!

{Ed002's Note - I suspect disappointment will be what the Liverpool hierarchy is feeling right now.}

I'm not sure what your last sentence means but, we don't need this again. Best player I've seen in our shirt, but he's besmirched our great club. Again

24 Jun 2014 19:42:30
Kinda makes me sick how people slag off Iago Aspas and there are still some people (albeit the minority) supporting him. We really should have expected something like this to happen, I don't know why I'm so worked up over it!? If the club's hierarchy are disappointed they're as foolhardy as us fans.

Super, some players are just too good to lose. He can be banned for 5-10 games every season, but he puts in a world class shift to the games he is involved with. It is perhaps why he is still a Liverpool players, and not a Real Madrid or Bayern player.

Well said super and ed. He's been supported through 2 massive incidents already, I don't care what he does for the team, it's not worth the damage he's doing to our image.
We've seen other big players leave, and he's no different to them, get the out the club. As was said by super, you wouldn't support Aspas, Allen or hardly any of the others if they did it! Suarez is no different. Bring in someone who has the dignity and respect to wear the Liverpool shirt.

Who would want him now really? He's mugged us off big time, as he will probably get his move but we will get less money :/

24 Jun 2014 18:52:17
What effect will Suarez's inevitable ban have on Liverpool?

Do FIFA have the power to hand down a worldwide ban for an on the field issue? I don't really understand the rules etc here.

Needless to say, if he wants out now, let him go! I love him as a player, I think he really is a genius, but this can't keep happening!

24 Jun 2014 19:33:00
It will most likely be a ban on International matches, I'm not sure what FIFA's scope for imposing ban in FA & UEFA competitions is.

Any idea guys? Eds/Reds?

Anyone know the rules on bans imposed by FIFA and whether they would apply for EPL/CL as well or just for international games?

I'm assuming any would have to be a worldwide ban to hit UEFA or FA sanctioned games right? Such as the bans we saw out in Australia for match fixing?

Cheers all

24 Jun 2014 19:17:49
What on earth is wrong with him. He just doesn't seem to be able to control himself. 3 times now is just beyond a joke. He is a great player but a complete disgrace and obviously has not learnt from last time which again is disrespectful to club and country given the amount of support the club gave him.

He should now get a lengthy ban for all football competitions. Really sad given his talent.

I think we've gave him more than enough support now. Absolutely shocking. I'm not even fussed about the money anymore, he deserves a lifetime ban. Dogs get put down for less.
As you say, shame with his talent, think he could be be best if he wasn't such a male genitalia.

24 Jun 2014 18:52:23
Oh sweet Jesus, I think he's gone and bitten someone. Again.

What is WRONG with him?

24 Jun 2014 18:51:05
Suarez bite again and now its Chellini the victime. Do you think Eds he will be sanctioned by the FIFA as the officials have not seen the action.

{Ed002's Note - If he has done something wrong then they will need to do something.}

24 Jun 2014 18:48:45
Anyone else hear that Suarez bit a Italy player?

24 Jun 2014 18:45:31
Suarez does it again. Did he Bite or head butt
Another Ban looming. Don't see now Barca coming.

24 Jun 2014 18:40:46
Oops Luis.

24 Jun 2014 19:13:46
Suarez is a disgrace.
It pains me as a lifelong fan to see this behaviour yet again, its just embarrassing now.

I hope the club sell for as high a price as they can get.

24 Jun 2014 19:21:02
Totally agree. I just don't want our club to have to deal with his idiotic behaviour anymore.

24 Jun 2014 19:11:47
Oh man! Not friggin again! What is wrong with that man? Seriously! What is this obsession with biting? Photos online are clearly showing it was a bite! What a PR nightmare FSG have on their hands again and what a truckload this man is, to handle. He wears out his welcome every single time.

24 Jun 2014 19:09:24
In a way it might be good that Suarez has done this again maybe this might scare off potential interest from other teams. Hopefully

24 Jun 2014 19:20:42
You actually want him to stay. What the hells wrong with you?!

I'd rather him sitting in the preverbial sin bin in Barcelona than us paying his wages to do nothing till Christmas

24 Jun 2014 19:08:00
How can Suarez complain about the English media when he does things like that. Send that animal away, typical that corrupt clubs like barca, madrid etc will still want him.

24 Jun 2014 19:06:52
Get Suarez sold I don't care hw good he is what a person.

24 Jun 2014 19:06:21
Well 2 things will happen now methinx, 1, Suarez has just devalued himself (doh!) and 2, FIFA will do nothing about it!

I really can't believe he has done that again!

24 Jun 2014 19:04:37
Suarez Suarez Suarez has done it again.

24 Jun 2014 19:04:08
FC Transillvania now also entering the race to sign Suarez.

24 Jun 2014 19:03:34
Can we just sell this rubbish FGS.
I am done and dusted with this person. "

Harry am sure you don't mean that about your bff

That's Luis's last fan giving up supporting him there.

24 Jun 2014 18:56:44
Enough is enough we can't keep a disgrace of a human being like this at Liverpool FC anymore.

3rd time yes 3rd time he's bit a player.

Sell Suarez now before he gets himself banned for life, Seriously i'm calling for Liverpool to have some respect for their identity and get rid!!!

24 Jun 2014 18:54:28
Apparently Suarez has bitten chiellini, haven't seen the incident myself, anyone else seen it?

{Ed001's Note - it looked like a bite.}

I'm going to pretend it was just a headbutt, because that's okay right?

24 Jun 2014 19:01:33
This is bullshit! sorry Ed, but this guy is crazy. Extremely talented, but seriously why does he keep on doing this to us and himself!? This is one step too far imo.

{Ed001's Note - it is worrying that he keeps doing it, as it would be if he kept getting into trouble for any red card offence.}

It was a definite bite. I think he's had enough support off us now. I don't care how good he is a player, he's dragged the LFC name through the mud and it's beyond a joke now.
If Madrid still want him after this, let them have him.

24 Jun 2014 19:05:33
Yep just seen it. I'm done. I'm literally done supporting him. This will only put of buyers/lower his value. I'm absolutely sick to death of the guy. Constantly throwing the support we've given back in our faces. I want him gone, I want him no where near Liverpool football club. You may replace what I'll finish this with, with the "person" edit, but I feel just this once, let this fact slip through. luis Suarez is a complete and utter flucking disgrace.

That bite could cost us tens of millions of pounds.

Pictures of the shoulder certainly show what look like teeth marks. What a loon.

24 Jun 2014 19:12:07
Close enough 01. What thoughts going through your head right now with this?

{Ed001's Note - same as I said last time, not worth the trouble, no matter how good a player he is.}

24 Jun 2014 17:40:46
If someone actually thinks Sturridge would fire us into title in Suarez Absence, Then they should check them-self out.
A single goal and 15+ shorts outside 25 yards. That's just what he has done so far.
We could see a lot more of those long rage shots next season. He needs a world class genius around him to chase the ball and feed him.

24 Jun 2014 17:53:08
England have had 4 shots and 0 on target so far. Making up ridiculous numbers like you've done reminds me why I don't bother reading your posts Harry.

24 Jun 2014 17:55:00
Oh,do you mean the whole World Cup? See, I really don't bother reading yours :)

24 Jun 2014 18:04:30
Rubbish how can you really watch England and come to that conclusion? What striker wouldn't play better with a world class striker around them?!

24 Jun 2014 18:19:13
Hahahha. here comes the excuses parade.
I am watching the England game and Sturridge one among the rest have been poor. His first touch and control have been poor and he is selfish to death.
The nos might be an exegarated, But never mind the actual are pretty close to it.



TBH, By the time I am writing this Sturridge is still missing balls.

Harry, you don't half talk some rubbish

24 Jun 2014 18:59:52
He doesn't take 15 shots from outside the area for every goal he scores for us, so I'm not exactly worried. Besides, based the World Cup, we should've been relegated with so many England players in our team.

I accept that Sturridge is a bit greedy, possibly more so than is ideal, but he scores enough goals to get away with it. So long as he doesn't get back into the habit of doing that thing where he gets the ball with his back to a defender, tracks back 12 yards to get some space, then turns and think about what he's going to do with it, I'm not worried about him.

As for him replacing Suarez, we will actually buy other attackers if Suarez leaves, it's not like Sturridge will be our only forward.

Its rather harsh to measure the contributions of a player playing national team football vs club football. some players can do the business for club and are non-existent for country. I think the way Liverpool plays enhances sturridges game.

24 Jun 2014 18:51:05
Harry I don't understand y u have to talk down another Liverpool player just to show how much u love Suarez who himself has had a far from good game. Sturridge is an excellent striker on the path to becoming world class!so do us all a favour and please stick to just talking about how great Luis is.no need to put down another Liverpool player.
Cheers

24 Jun 2014 15:47:02
People calling for Suarez to to quash these rumours about him leaving.
Even if he pledged himself to Liverpool every day there would still be stories about him wanting to leave and about teams wanting to buy him.
He sells papers.

24 Jun 2014 14:16:53
Any interest in Marcelo from us or anyone else Ed?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

Cheers Ed

Posted twice at exact same second ay. Wooooop

24 Jun 2014 14:07:36
Hi Eds,

Fairly new to the site and first time poster, so be gentle with me!

I've heard a number of rumours recently linking both Barca and Real Madrid to other forwards (ie Barca to Higuain and Real to Falcao) my question is if either of these rumours were actually true (and I understand that's a very big if!) and either of these were to happen, would that effectively end the club's interest in Suarez? Or is there the potential that either club could go for both Higuain/Falcao AND Suarez?

Cheers guys, great site, keep up the good work.

Robbo

{Ed002's Note - Clubs will generally have an interest in more than one player. Sometimes there will be more than one position to fill - Chelsea may well have four forwards leaving this summer as an example.}

24 Jun 2014 13:02:14
THey say everything in Life is a trade-off. There is no doubt that Suarez is an amazing player but there is also little doubt that he is not the greatest human being anyone will have the pleasure of meeting and this has been demonstrated multiple times in the last few years. He also one stupid mistake away from a Lifetime Ban.
Last year, when he was edging for a move, I believe Rodgers and FSG had a choice : Sell him and invest in the squad or keep him for one more season and hope to make the champions league. They took the second option and it worked. Now with Liverpool in the Champions League, I wouldn't be surprised if the owners sell him and invest in the squad. Atleast that is what I would do. He is a brlliant player but he is going to leave/retire/get banned at some time in the future. Maybe they would want to keep him one more season to consolidate Liverpool's position and then sell him. But believe neither Suarez, nor rodgers or the owners would have any plans for him to stay here more than 2 seasons.

24 Jun 2014 15:19:59
Sorry but I completely disagree. You haven't met the guy in person yes on the pitch he's a nutter but to say he's a horrible person without actually meeting the guy is ridiculous.

Right now the player is one of the best in the world i'd rather keep a player that can help us win trophies now instead of worrying about him retiring. If he wants too leave okay but I think we all learnt our mistakes about wanting him out last season

24 Jun 2014 12:55:07
hi eds and reds

im sure suarez himself said he was staying and that he loves the club and fans, I smile when some journos put something in a paper and your all falling for it, i'm going to stick with what the man himself said and not what the papers say,

24 Jun 2014 10:12:42
In all honesty I'm starting to want Suarez to leave as soon as possible. If he's staying and committed to the club then great, he's the best of the best and naturally I'd want him at the club. But if this drags on and on and he leaves having played the first game or so for us I would be in bits. Clubs will have seen us coming and demand huge fees, the late switch will be heart-breaking and above all, last season showed the importance of a good pre-season: we won every game bar the one against Celtic I believe, and went on to reach our highest position in the league for years.
If I were Brendan, and Luis had told me he wanted to go, I would call Barcelona and explain the player can move on, but a deal needs to be in place before the 20th July for argument's sake, and any deal must include Alexis Sanchez- partly as now that Arsenal are reportedly interested, the player seemingly rejecting them to join us could be huge for moral and unsettle some gooners.

24 Jun 2014 12:12:56
Totally agree. If he wants to move on then let him go abroad for as much as possible. He has been terrific for us, but he is not irreplaceable. Alexis is clearly a gifted player and could be a suitable replacement.

24 Jun 2014 12:38:12
I am not sure calling up Barcelona to get Suarez out of the club will help us financially.

24 Jun 2014 13:07:08
I was told a few days ago that his house is up for sale, maybe that's part of the reason the media are drumming this up, which may mean nothing but they've latched onto it. Look if he does go then good luck to the lad.

If Suarez is to be sold I wouldn't expect the deal to go through before we bring in several additional players otherwise clubs would demand higher fees knowing we have just received a large proportion of money for Suarez.

Red Rum

24 Jun 2014 13:12:16
It'll help me mentally though! Just want this sorted one way or another. Don't want another summer like last one or end up with the same problems as Spurs and sell at the last minute.

I agree with the O.P. He should just go if that's what he wants and end the twice-yearly speculation. Having said that, some of the fee amounts quoted by the press are ridiculously low and we should play hard ball just like the Spurs chairman.

Your right. Sell our best player just because he attracts hype. that's a sure way to build a title winning side. Suarez could chain himself to Shankly gate and still be linked with a move away.

24 Jun 2014 07:54:53
Well let's hope Uruguay get knocked out by Italy for the benefit of LFC. also can get the futures of a few players sorted/finalised.

One thing the World Cup has shown is that you don't need a team full of overpaid/overpriced so called stars to do well. Costa Rica to name just one. It would be great if we could find a couple of cut price gems out of the tournament :-)

24 Jun 2014 06:41:14
Hi eds, could you explain the situation with Emre Can, I'm aware we have "agreed a deal in principle". Could you sum up what that means and what's required to 100% complete the signing. I'm led to believe it's just awaiting the paperwork to be formally completed and submitted?

{Ed001's Note - just awaiting the opening of the international transfer window so the paperwork can be submitted. July 1st.}

23 Jun 2014 22:59:01
Any truth in the Falcoa to Madrid rumours ed. I would ask on the European pages but I feel it more relevant here due to that IF it was true I would affective put them out of interest for Luis. Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I would pull up your pants and wait a while.}

24 Jun 2014 08:05:46
Exaclty What I am getting here, That seems pretty much relaible.

Harry, the Falcao to Real rumors could well be because Real have conceded they will lose out in the race to sign Suarez to Barca. It does not change the fact Suarez has wanted to leave LFC for a quite some time. Barca will eventually get him.

24 Jun 2014 12:41:05
What Harry? You had pulled down your pants and was waiting too?

As big as barcelona are I can't see suarez, neymar and messi playing in the same team, I think if madrid get falcao it will make it easier for us to keep hold of him.