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24 Oct 2015 21:54:34
Mikey 1985,are you on the blob lad? Judging by your replys down the page you've been on a promise from a liar!
Are you after my title as most hated poster on here? Calm yourself soft lad!
24 Oct 2015 23:30:26
Haha I'm not well mate maybe I'm taking it out on everyone here.
25 Oct 2015 11:18:29
Who says your the most hated poster waro? Far from it from my perspective.
24 Oct 2015 21:32:55
Can't wait for tomorrow, just got a little feeling we are going to go unbeaten for a while, not smashing teams out the park but grinding out the draws and wins, slowly creeping up the table. I can see the news now about 10/15 games unbeaten putting us in a decent position.
Blast me for being a dreamer I don't care, do t get me wrong I'm not expecting the league or even top 4 but am I far from dreading the next game as I was last month.
I'm excited for tomorrow and looking forward to beating Chelsea piling the pressure on JM.
25 Oct 2015 04:24:14
Great. Now you've hexed us for sure .
24 Oct 2015 19:08:14
Ed2 if you don't mind, as it may be a touchy subject and not Liverpool related. What is your take on chelsea's start to the season. What has changed there and how secure is JM. I ask not as a gloat but as a football fan.
Mikey b.
{Ed002's Note - Things are obviously not going their way with results right now. They are certainly going to look for an improvement. Players they looked at in the summer did not happen - but they will look to improve again in January and the summer. Like MU a year out of the CL is a financial pain but the can overcome it. Clearly far from great.}
25 Oct 2015 01:39:54
I think the whole world bar Chelsea fans, are lapping up Jose's troubles. let's just say the football gods are at work.
25 Oct 2015 06:42:06
I actually don't mind Mourinho, but he deserves it. Can't bear Chelsea.
24 Oct 2015 20:02:11
okay, this is going to upset some people, but here it goes. I'm more interested in what the Eds think. I do agree that Lallana COULD (emphasis on could) become a superstar under this system. I do agree that the fans need to lower expectations for this season. Top 4 this year? I'm not so sure. Maybe next year. Klopp is brilliant and I believe will become as close to a legend as one can become these days. Football has changed. The days of a manager working his entire career at a club are over. Klopp will leave after his contract is up more than likely. This is a rebuild and this is going to be a process. Some hard decisions are going to have to be made. I do agree with those who say that Sturridge should be sold. He is unreliable. I don't agree that we use that money for immediate return in January. I also agree that we should cash in on Coutinho while we can. I, personally, believe Lallana will be much more effective under Klopp's system. Sell whomever we can afford to sell now and use those funds to buy one or two impact players during the summer. In order to become a more balanced and competitive club we have to build and develop the youth system and suppliment with purchases here and there. It should be up to the manager to determine who those purchases should be. If we blow our load (sorry) on one player, for example, Reus, fine, but understand that any reinforcements have to come from the youth system. What we need right now is continuity. The past two years we have thrown away money mindlesssly at players we really didn't need and essentially have had brand new teams. These days of instant gratification have adversely affected the way the club should do business. I do believe that we can once again become the giants of European football that we once were, but it will take patience and there has to be a process. I have to believe that Klopp laid out a 4 year plan to the owners showeing how to get Liverpool back to the top (he alluded to that when he said that in 4 years we would have a title) . However, to the fans that think it will happen this year is naive and unfair. We can do this without buying the most expensive players in Europe. It isn't about buying the best players in the world, it is about finding the right players for the system, something Rodgers couldn't figure out.
24 Oct 2015 21:13:29
Ye selling our two best players is surely the best way to go forwad. I am amazed of people who want to get rid of Coutinho. Other than Suarez we weren't able to bring a decent players in the last 5 year maybe more. Even players that were good in other teams can't find their best form with us. We sold our best player in the last two summers and see where it got us. Couts and Sturridge are the only two players in our forward game who are both very good and suits our style. Your fantasy about Lallana is nice but has nothing to be based on. He is ok but in his age he will not suddenly become a top player just because Klopp is around. If we can get 25 games from Sturridge a season in all competitions I am happy with that. Benteke as a first striker and he plays when he is fit. Who will buy him anyway?
And I hate this word cash in. We are not here for the business but to win games. Chelsea, City Arsenal don;t cash in on players. They keep them and win.
24 Oct 2015 21:38:21
I agree with what you are saying in principle mate. We all need to be patient and realise that a new system takes time to implement. I have to say I actually thought our squad was stronger than it actually is. The last few weeks have shown how far away we are. a couple of injuries and we look toothless but with benteke back and studge soon we should see a difference. Give the team time and don't expect miracles lads. People always want instant gratification but it's a process. I think the problem is that us fans have been waiting so long. YNWA.
24 Oct 2015 22:03:48
Not sure selling 2 of our best players (coutinho and studge) is the way to get success.
24 Oct 2015 22:22:07
If klopp can get the big money signings to gell we could compete with anyone. A fluid attacking trio of firminho, couts and lallana all scoring 10 to 15 plus 20 goals from benteke and the occasionally fit sturridge between them. That's a title challenging side. If one of those 3 can't contribute at least 10 goals a season then i think we should sell them because we won't ever score enough goals to be where we want to be.
25 Oct 2015 00:02:12
Eds, any of you, would you please give your opinion on my post and tell me where I may be going wrong? I really believe that Rodgers bought in a panic and didn't really think about what we really needed to suppliment and make the team better. I beleive he bought for buying sake without a plan or strategy and ended up screwing himself; he bought without thinking of the big picture instead of maybe saving back some money for what we really needed and using some from the under 21, to fill in where we needed. Where am I going wrong? I appreciate the feedback.
{Ed007's Note - Your punctuation is very poor.}
25 Oct 2015 00:40:40
Lallana has a great first touch and fantastic skill but I think he is 2 yards too slow at the moment.
25 Oct 2015 07:41:41
Agree with Bod.
25 Oct 2015 07:57:01
Lallana does an awful lot of running. That's great, but at the end of the day, you have to play to your strengths. And running speed is not his strength.
Perhaps Klopp could change him to a Silva type of player - one who relies on technique, intelligent movement and releasing the ball quickly to runners. Letting the ball do the work. I think Lallana has the ability to learn that kind of role.
25 Oct 2015 11:04:13
Haven't we learnt that selling our best players and replacing them hasn't worked at all yet - sorry but lallana isn't near coutinho in terms of that ability and why would you sell someone younger who is better and has ability to be a great? Lallana works hard and could be good but he slows the game down unfortunately - speed kills and if you want 3 or 4 touches before letting that killer pass go then that killer pass becomes 10 times more difficult.
25 Oct 2015 13:23:50
Spot on, Cialbray!
24 Oct 2015 19:36:13
Not ( perhaps) Liverpool related but saw the front page of the mirror just before. If it's true, and two players are going to come out soon I hope hope they get the respect they deserve and that there are no idiots hurling abuse at them. If one is an lfc player I'm sure he'll be supported by us all. It's great that we have reached a stage where people can be who they are. Good on them and good luck to them.
24 Oct 2015 19:52:03
Wasn't there a story about a few England players back along, nothing really materialised from it.
24 Oct 2015 21:38:59
I find the worrying thing that it is deemed front page news? absolutely pathetic from the mirror or who ever. People are gay, from footballers to dubai based website editors. All a bit too much for me, from the media side. To the fellas coming out, very brave and i applaud that.
{Ed033's Note - Ed001 only comes out at night, that's why his nickname is Nightshade
25 Oct 2015 07:43:07
WHO CARES?
24 Oct 2015 19:27:42
Crystal Palace are willing to sell Martin Kelly for 5 million and Liverpool decided to bring him home.
Nice dream I had last night, if only it were true.
24 Oct 2015 21:52:54
He is the one that should never have been forced out.
24 Oct 2015 22:04:31
Why would we pay £5 mill for an average player like Kelly.
25 Oct 2015 00:14:58
And why is he average exactly, Red? I remember him playing very well for us under KK and made the England squad for the last Euros and Spurs were interested in him before he went to Palace and has turned his career around after being messed about by the former politician sorry, manager. So again, how is he average?
25 Oct 2015 07:44:34
So people want to sell Sturridge because he's always injured yet they are moaning because we sold Kelly?
Weird.
25 Oct 2015 09:54:56
Not weird at all Kelly is playing consistently and has overcome his injuries by the looks of it.
He's a very good player. Nothing contradictory here Ron, Move on pal.
24 Oct 2015 18:43:57
hi edds any news on Tiago Ilori at aston villa. what is it with this guy keeps going out on loan and never plays.
{Ed001's Note - Sherwood wants to go with experience, it was a stupid loan move for the club to set him up with.}
24 Oct 2015 21:53:32
And the stupid decisions just keep piling up.
25 Oct 2015 01:03:17
As in experienced losers?
24 Oct 2015 18:26:09
I know it's not Liverpool related but do you think there's a chance Mourinho might be sacked?
Has a manager ever been sacked the year after winning the title?
24 Oct 2015 18:41:50
Ancelotti was sacked about 13 games into a season when he'd just done the double for Chelsea, I think anyway could be wrong.
{Ed001's Note - Real Madrid sacked the manager after he won the league a few years back. Was it Del Bosque they did that to?}
24 Oct 2015 19:42:26
ed001,becuase he won it playing ''boring football' if i recall.
{Ed001's Note - it was because he failed to win the Champions League.}
24 Oct 2015 20:46:30
In 1998 Heynckes won the champions league but Real Madrid finished 11 points behind Barcelona in the league. He was sacked.
In 2003 Del Bosque won the league but failed to win the champions league. He was sacked.
In 2007 Cappello won the league but the team didn't play attractively enough. He was sacked.
Guess Real Madrid will win the league this season and Rafa will be sacked.
24 Oct 2015 21:01:06
Chelsea did it with Ancelotti didn't they? They won it, then got 2nd and he got the sack?
24 Oct 2015 19:32:57
Thanks for your replies.
What do you think Eds?
Hearing any murmurs?
It does seem like he's gone a bit bonkers.
{Ed002's Note - Does the mathematical proofing of the "bonkeroo" measurement exist.}
25 Oct 2015 07:02:16
mancini?
24 Oct 2015 17:17:05
With Mourinho being sent off does that mean he will be in the stands next week?
24 Oct 2015 18:04:42
Yeah unfortunately.
On current form we want him pitch side. Lol.
24 Oct 2015 21:40:51
Isnt he now going to be banned from the stadia as he was already on a suspended sentence?
24 Oct 2015 21:46:36
Yeh while Jurgen scissor kicks every one of our 4 goals😎.
24 Oct 2015 16:36:25
Sorry if this is a stupid question but if we buy a player in Jan will they be eligible to play in the Europa League this season?
I thought I had seen somewhere that they couldn't but can't seem to find anything on it.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - It depends who is and which if any competitions he has played in before.}
24 Oct 2015 17:18:17
Thanks for the reply. So basically if they had already played in the EL with another team they would be ineligible?
{Ed002's Note - No, it is rather more complex than that.
Three players can be replaced in the January list, of those one player can have played in the group stage of the other European competition (so in Liverpool's case a Champions League player could be signed and registered) as long as his club has not dropped in to the Europa League.
Additionally all three of the players could be signed from clubs who played in and got knocked out of the qualifying rounds or play-offs of the Champions League or Europa League for another club.
Players who were unused substitutes are not eligible.
And nobody targets players under these criteria.}
24 Oct 2015 18:42:06
Thanks for the detailed reply ed.
24 Oct 2015 19:14:23
Ed, not to sound like a suck up, but your information is extremely informative and much appreciated. Really good stuff.
{Ed002's Note - No problem, thanks. Just let me adjust my trousers.}
24 Oct 2015 16:13:38
Some idiots on here at the minute, sell studge for someone less injury prone?
We already have benteke, firmino, origi and Sinclair, with Ings to come back. why add more to that?
24 Oct 2015 16:28:22
I veritably wouldn't advocate selling our best player and replacing with with no one.
None of the strikers we have are in the same league as Sturridge.
24 Oct 2015 16:57:13
If we sold him, we wouldn't need a replacement. I think we should keep him, he might get a bit more resilient, and when he is fit he's the best we have. What's the point of letting someone else have him even if he is rarely fit.
24 Oct 2015 17:21:34
Yeah you don't sell a player of such quality regardless of his injury record.
Especially as we have plenty of cover.
Even of he's only fit 10-15 games a year he's still likely to score 10 goals.
24 Oct 2015 17:27:07
Mikey1985 what are you talking about?
Are you telling me the forward line we have without Sturridge is good enough to win the league?
Benteke is very injury prone and will not score the goals that are required to win the league.
Firmino looks ok but is still completely unproven in the premier league.
Sinclair is a kid and completely unproven in the premier league.
Origi is a kid who looks ok in bursts but would not make it in any top six team right now.
Ings unfortunately is out for the remainder of the season which is a shame because he looked a real threat.
So yes I feel if we were to sell Sturridge we would need a replacement, further to that I feel we should sell him. Does that make me an idiot?
24 Oct 2015 18:06:49
Yes it does con, for starters you can't read properly.
24 Oct 2015 18:30:06
My reading is just fine mate.
I did ok getting the three degrees j have so I must be pretty reasonable at interpreting language.
You need to have a look at what your writing because you were implying that it would be crazy to replace Sturridge however in my opinion it would be crazy to not replace him.
24 Oct 2015 18:50:37
I don't think there would be much point on holding onto a player for 10/15 games a season really. His wages would be massive for a part time footballer.
24 Oct 2015 19:13:16
I'm implying don't sell him in the first place con.
24 Oct 2015 22:00:36
Mikey, I agree but a time will come when that option won't be as far fetched as you think. Studge is of no use to us I he's injured the quarters of the season. That is a fact and if he can't justify his fitness or wages by not playing, he's of no use to us. And if he's of no use to us? Why is he still here? Football is a business and if a player can't stay healthy and produce, why should his club stick with him for ages without him justifying that faith? That is the reality that you cannot deny codified you do, you'll be disappointed when or if this scenario occurs.
25 Oct 2015 08:20:09
We also still have Balotelli, he is only on loan!
24 Oct 2015 14:33:20
Getting of topic and away from the hysteria of klopp mania i just want to give a shout out to a genuine poster whos posts I've come to really enjoy reading on the various rumour sites that poster is dagenham gunner! Just want you to know mate your more than welcome to post on here anytime your posts are excellent and they are a breathe of fresh air from the usual slaggin between rival fans also great reading mate keep up the good work!
24 Oct 2015 16:06:16
Jeez get a room ;)
24 Oct 2015 19:07:25
He's made of plastic get rid.
24 Oct 2015 19:45:57
all lfc fans appreciate DG and his input tbf. Genuine chap.
24 Oct 2015 12:27:51
Right folks, finally taken the plunge and cancelled the Sky sports subscription. Don't watch enough footie to justify it.
However when I do fancy a match, any advice in the best free streaming sites?
24 Oct 2015 13:00:24
Get an Adndroid box. You'll never look back, has everything you need. About £60 I think in your money, i live in Dublin so it's €100 for one. Just plug it into your hdmi port, hook up to wifi and bingo!
24 Oct 2015 13:19:09
Which app on androidbox shows the games?!
24 Oct 2015 13:36:25
Android box was the best money spent ever and to make it even better the wife bought it for me.
24 Oct 2015 13:36:36
Once you have your android box you should sign up to offside streams. Its basically your full sky package in HD plus all your 3 o'clock games and pay per view events. It's £10 a month.
24 Oct 2015 14:54:37
I got a amazon fire stick chipped/fully loaded but find when streaming the footie it always lags and freezes. Is it the same with the Android box?
24 Oct 2015 16:07:13
Go the pub, they even have beer.
24 Oct 2015 16:21:23
Try Kodi it used to be XMBC.
24 Oct 2015 16:58:45
I like bt sport now, do all the European games, early Saturday's and there's always a European league game on if you're bored.
24 Oct 2015 18:01:53
Android box is good. Do go for it. Alternatively you can shift to any country in south asia. prices here are crazy cheap. For bout 2-3 pounds you can see all the major leagues their respective cup competitons. The European stuff the international stuff the mls and i'm just talking about football here.
24 Oct 2015 18:07:58
Android mate box. You get everything, use sports devil or UK-Turks on navix. Also hammys on nevix is good. Best £40 I ever spent.
25 Oct 2015 00:21:06
Researchin this androidbox thingy looks amazing. However does anyone know which one I should get?
{Ed007's Note - I bought a T8, it's the best thing I've ever bought until my PS4 comes next month. If my T8 could cook I'd throw my Mrs out.
Seriously though, come on to the Celtic page where we regularly talk about them in the simplest terms, we're all getting interested at the same time, you're all welcome.}
25 Oct 2015 18:17:15
thanks ed007 read through it all. however if i have an android phone can i also watch the games on it through something like mobdro? . I already have showbox on my phone and it is amazing.
{Ed001's Note - yes, you don't need the box at all. You could even get (depending on model) mini-HDMI to HDMI cable and plug the phone into the TV and watch it on the big screen that way.}
25 Oct 2015 20:13:50
ed01 this just blew my mind. i'm telling me mam to cancel everything lol. murdoch can suck it lol. I already head showbox on my phone and i thought it could not get any better i just downloaded mobdro and i'm watching formula 1 live from my grans. haha.
{Ed001's Note - mobdro is excellent.}
25 Oct 2015 21:01:33
thank you ed01, do you have any other apps to share with me.
{Ed001's Note - watchseries and popcorntime can be useful apps for TV and films.}
24 Oct 2015 12:17:42
What's wrong with our fans these days all I ever see now is our own players getting slated Ie skytel milner migs. Should for once this wknd get behind the team and be the loudest best fans in the world again. People talking about selling our best striker when fit. Let's have a bit passion for once try lift the team.
24 Oct 2015 15:02:21
And amazingly there's someone who disagrees with a your post. Sigh.
24 Oct 2015 11:09:36
Hey eds
Probably a stupid question, .....
{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to that - it simply leads to more and more Liverpool players getting trashed by many of the so called "fans" and I, for one, am sick of reading it.}
24 Oct 2015 11:49:23
To be fair ed, the 'fans' will find any reason to trash players.
{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to it Nick.}
24 Oct 2015 10:17:35
I know loads of people might not like what I'm going to say and disagree with me but I think its time we start thinking about selling sturridge. I think he can be one of the best strikers in the premiership when fit, and the keyword there is WHEN.
24 Oct 2015 10:52:48
Them wages could be going to somebody who actually earns it by playing.
24 Oct 2015 10:58:42
I wonder if there's ever been a player who was so injury prone who didn't do full training? Could be worth a shout with Danny.
24 Oct 2015 11:25:09
For what we would get back and also he losing it just isn't worth it
We locked him into a long term deal last October and for me I am looking at 20 games in all comps per season.
We have great options without him aswell.
24 Oct 2015 11:27:31
With his injury history, do you honestly think any other club would be interested. And more importantly would they pay what we would be asking.
24 Oct 2015 13:08:24
Ledley king used to have reduced training.
Due to knee problems I think? He was a good player who's injuries cut short his career.
24 Oct 2015 14:30:59
No guarantee his replacement or any other player for that matter will stay fit/not injured. At least we know Sturridge can score and hopefully the medics/physios can sort out his problems.
24 Oct 2015 03:49:46
Anyone else notice Lucas has had more shots the last 2 games than he has the last 2 seasons? Klopp has obviously had a positive effect on him already. Although nothing has came from his new found shooting boots up to now I'm looking forward to the lad getting on the score sheet a few times this season. He did join us with an attacking reputation after all.
24 Oct 2015 08:33:23
Our movement up front is so poor that we seemed forced to shooting from outside the box. I'd rather Lucas wasn't having more shots to be honest, I'd rather he was finding one of our strikers in space.
24 Oct 2015 09:38:56
Didn't rafa originally buy him as an attacking midfielder?
24 Oct 2015 09:39:41
Tbf he hasn't taken on anything that he shouldn't have. I think it was just that Rubin were sat so deep, that it allowed him to get on the end of balls knocked down at the edge of the box. I don't think you can claim its klopps doing.