Liverpool Banter Archive August 25 2014

25 Aug 2014 22:31:32
I must admit its a pleasure to see the majority of posters being positive. It is only one game, away, against a very good city side. We weren't poor, but just had lapses in concentration. No one disgraced themselves, and the signings showed signs of settling straight away. Adding lallana and balo into the squad should produce some spark and hopefully push city the whole way!

One thing that gets me, is lambert would have buried the chance where he passed to sturridge late on, must just be a confidence issue, but by god he should have shot! Not trying to put him down, but it was a bad decision in my opinion!

25 Aug 2014 23:06:14
Let's stay positive we signed 1 of the best strikers in Europe for 16m, big games get decided by a few mistakes we were running the game until Moreno made a slight mistake on a sour note I'm worried about r midfield but it's early in the season if we beat spurs all will be forgotten imo.

I agree with you, for once :-)

26 Aug 2014 00:28:54
Still think Lambert needs that first goal and then he'll be fine!

25 Aug 2014 22:30:19
Still early days and plenty to be excited about. We'll soon forget this result and carry on with the business of building a team with another top international on board. Welcome Mario!

25 Aug 2014 22:15:17
On a positive note, after the equivalent 2 fixtures from last season we were on zero points so let's not be too downhearted! Chin up lads. YNWA

25 Aug 2014 22:12:29
Disappointed but actually not that disheartened although there is now a bit of pressure for spurs on Sunday. We always knew it would take time for the team to gel but there were a few glimpses to indicate that the new signings have some potential. To me it was more about how professional city were than the mistakes we made and the fact that we have 3 more points from the corresponding fixtures last year is small comfort as City and Chelsea look as if they could be a cut above the rest this year

One of the biggest differences today was playing an established team with an established defence. Playing them at Anfield once our new recruits have had time to gel properly and we might see a different outcome.

25 Aug 2014 22:09:50
We were really impressive for a lot of the first half, and showed flashes in the 2nd. I have to say Markovic was great when he came on, Sterling was a tricky customer but we still seem to be falling asleep when it comes to defensive duties.

It is worth noting that City were very secure defensively & extremely dangerous going forward. Skrtel's positioning was poor for a lot of the game, although he did all the flashy stuff well; I think Lovren was carrying his performance for a lot of the game.

Despite the mistake for the goal I was mildly impressed with Moreno, I agree with the ssn commentators in that it was his first game in the premier league, not up to the speed maybe.

I'm sure that Sakho will get his chance soon, I just hope it is alongside Lovren as opposed to Skrtel as he really does compromise our defensive shape at times.

I think if you look back city weren't that great defensively. We broke through them a lot. Just needed a bit more belief and to be a bit more clinical. Not bad though considering we are bedding in some players still.

I tend to think Skrtel is our best defender. Positioning is important, but so is blocking and attacking the ball well.

He got in behind a few times in the second half, final ball a little off but did some good runs.

25 Aug 2014 22:06:22
There were a lot of positives to take from this performance despite the ridiculous end of the world predictions. We out-played them in the first half and were ruthlessly punished for a debutantes error. In my mind, the score flatters them a bit and we have a lot of new faces who have yet to gel completely. Give it some time and have faith in the team.

It also doesn't help when our momentum is halted due to an injury.

Keep your heads up and let's focus for the next game!

YNWA from Texas

Well said man. Loving the Texas connection too brother. Great state

25 Aug 2014 22:01:37
I thought there was some offensive positives, seems I am the only one. Sturridge unlucky when Harte saved, that could have gone in, even though Coutinho gave the ball away a few times he does still look like he can create chances for others, Sterling will do damage this season Henderson could have swivelled in the box and swung his left boot at it, surprised no one else has mentioned that as there was nothing between him and Harte 10/12 yards out, Henderson also had half a chance to have a pop off Gerrards chipped free kick its just that he lacks confidence in those areas.
Markovic looked full of confidence.
Can't expect too much away at city nowadays so don't be too down reds.

Agree, wasn't that bad. Moreno made a couple of mistakes but looked good and Allen done ok. Looking forward to seeing what llalana and Balo can bring

Bang on Al boy. Thought we created a lot of great chances tonight.

25 Aug 2014 22:14:29
totally agree some of the coments on here make me laugh

In my opinion, Studge`s goal should have been awarded because he was even and at that point, the striker has the advantage, just saying.

25 Aug 2014 22:01:11
we were second best in all departments in the second half, especially out muscled in mid field. Even Henderson was second best in most tackles. The only good thing is that Johnson might be out for a while. All in all I think we just lost to this seasons winners

You sir, are a DISGRACE! I might be fed up w/ GJ but would NEVER wish long term injury on anyone. You are not a fan.

25 Aug 2014 21:58:25
Don't get too worked up lads.

We played well for the first 30 mins and then got outplayed for the majority of the remaining game.

We won't be the last team to get tonked at City this season.

We put it down as a lesson and move on. just wish Johnson would ;)

Onwards and upwards

25 Aug 2014 21:53:39
Ed. Is there any serious chance of Harold shipman checking out the extent of glen Johnson's injury?

Harsh but made me giggle haha

25 Aug 2014 21:52:07
Too many players not at their best tonight. No options when going forward most of the time and switched off at the back too many times. Disappointing but it was always going to be a tough game so early in the season. Need to regroup and work hard to get ready for another tough game on Sunday.

Nice to see Lambert get off the mark. Shame that the gobrubbish who posted earlier got their wish with the Johnson injury - we were just having a little spell at the time as well.

The problem is that our system is such that it doesn`t allow for passengers. Players like GJ are passengers who offer nothing going forward nor defending meaning, we are playing with virtually 10 men. That was our undoing today. We got punished for our lapses BUT we didn`t crucify City when the fell asleep. To me, that was da difference. #Wegoagain!

25 Aug 2014 21:46:03
Also, was I the only one hoping that Johnson pulling up at the end was a serious injury? I don't reckon I was.

{Ed002's Note - I struggle conceptually with this man.}

25 Aug 2014 22:03:43
What the hell? Wanting Johnson to be dropped or sold, fair enough, wanting him to be injured? That's not cool, take a long hard look at yourself then have a think about supporting all the players who wear our shirt

I would be happy to see him replaced, but I wouldn't want him injured. he does not deserve to play ahead of manquillo even when fully fit, bt c'mon man.

Regardless of whether he plays for us or another team, why the hell would you wish a serious injury on someone? You need help, pal.

I was only joking guys! Chill! It's nice to know how loyal the fans are though, despite his poor performances

These are the type of "fans" we have in our ranks today.

If he has a clause saying he has to play when fit I'd rather he wasn't fit. I don't wish him any pain maybe he could eat too many donuts but I don't want him to be classed as fit. A transfer would be preferable to all the above

25 Aug 2014 21:44:04
All the excitement and looking forward to the season seems to have gone from only one game. There is still a big diff in class from our players and city's. All those players in and all that money spent and only 1 class player bought. Some of you guys said that you trust BR on the players he buys, well look where most of his previous players are now and without a one Mr Suarez teams are not going to be worried about us. Seems logical to have bought 3/4 class players who will make a difference with that money spent. Ok they will need time to adapt but this whole transfer saga sounds like another Tottenham Hotspur and we can't afford not to be in the Champions league next year.

Keep your pants and chill, bro. We`ve only played TWO games. Tottenham had a failure for a manager and a DOF who was incompetent at best who bought second rate players and changed the first eleven in one swoop. We have a relatively successful manager who has bought exciting, young players who will be a force if all goes well in a system that has been tried and tested in the PL. See the difference?

25 Aug 2014 21:37:48
Why is Skertl standing several yards behind Lovren playing City onside all the time? It is like he doesn't trust his positioning or pace!

Why is Johnson being picked? Seriously, his form has been very poor for quite some time?

Sturridge has disappeared from this game and what chances he has had he has not looked like finishing. What has happened to him?

I know it is very early to be over critical, but I think the difference in quality between the two teams appears huge. I really hope this isn't a sign for the rest of the season.

Already at this early stage, the game Sunday against Spurs looks critical. .

Thoughts?

Although I agree with some points you make, I really think it is wayyyy to early to hit the panic button. City are a quality side, and are extremely strong at home. It has been an off day, it happens mate. There will be games when we don't play like we all know we can.

25 Aug 2014 21:52:18
Missing Suarez?

Look at the second goal. Lovren presses. Tweedle dee and Tweedle can't be arsed to do anything but lose the ball, both playing everyone on side.

25 Aug 2014 21:59:01
I think you're panicking and overreacting. We really didn't play that bad today. All of their goals except for the second one were off mistakes. That third goal, I think mignolet was watching the screen across the stadium and had to step forward to see it. Moreno made a mistake on the first one but lovren didn't put him in an easy position. It just wasn't our day. They had 3 good chances and buried them. We had a few and didn't. It happens.

The bottom line is we played Manchester city at their place. We will be fine, don't lose faith yet!

Connorslfc, I read your post earlier (re Skrtel) and thought I must have misread the game, I just looked at some highlights again and no I never mis read the game you did, Skrtel was deeper than Lovren but mainly in line with the full backs, Lovren was more guilty of stepping out and leaving gaps in behind foe city's runners to be onside as our other 3defenders were deeper. I feel a lot of people have made their mind up about Skrtel and are so quick to try and find something to criticise, as far as I'm concerned Skrtel has been our best defender in thevfirstv2 games this season.

25 Aug 2014 21:35:00
Absolutely furious. No pace, awful firstvtouch, lack of stamina. We're looking very lightweight in midfield. The passing is terrible. don't get me started on Johnson and Mignolet. Both conning employment from the club.

Bit extreme. Think somebody needs to pick your toys up for you.

25 Aug 2014 21:31:06
I said nothing earlier before the game. I had a strong feeling this would be a bad result. Should we worry? No, we.have a great team and were in abit of transition. The Johnson situation isn't going to change.unless he leaves. Markovic is very.exciting, can has big potential to come in.and lallana who I have raved about will come in not to mention super mario. Bad result but we suck it up and move on, it was.coming.
Support the team gents, we have a hell of a lot of quailty that will take time to.show what were.capable off

25 Aug 2014 22:00:02
Thank you for talking sense.

25 Aug 2014 21:28:36
Wow! Aguero on the field for 10 seconds and makes our defence look non existent. We could get throttled today. Never expected to win, but was hoping our defence would have tightened up a bit. Doesn't seem so.

Because skrtel and Johnson remain

25 Aug 2014 21:28:16
So much for shoring up the defense. Confidence will be lacking after this one.

Confidence will be affected ONLY if you let it. The coaching staff will no doubt get them upbeat because really, losing an away game at the Champions where we competed for long spells is NOT the end of the world. Lighten up, bro because the sun will still shine tmrw.

25 Aug 2014 21:23:17
we can see what we are doing wrong instead of shooting when we are around their box we keep on passing it back, only markovic has ran direct at the defence and he is using his strength something sturridge has not got, ballotelli has got strength we will seee the difference when he plays using it, sturridge gets pushed of the ball to easy, its his speed and skill that gets his goals

Seriously? Did you not see his strength to get a cross in for Ricky's goal?

25 Aug 2014 21:20:02
I'm going to be creating a pay pal account in which donations can be made by the fans to pay off Johnson's contract. The guy is sheer dross. The clause to having to play him is unbelievable. Manquillo has been excellent and he gets dropped for that. Who's willing to donate?

Definitely willing to do that he's been awe full

Lol benny, your nearly as funny as edd002

IMH! Skrtels fault then?

I don't wish it on him but if he's out for a crew games it might be a blessing in disguise.

We'll reusch. Today's high points. Lamberts goal. Moreno. Markovic. And most importantly. Glen Johnson's injury.

{Ed002's Note - Sorry man - I struggle with the Liverpool support for fucking up their own players. Don't ever mention "best supporters" in the world. I really, really struggle with this concept man.}

Well you might get your wish.

25 Aug 2014 22:38:05
Alan, who is to blame then? Skrtel's positioning was poor throughout the game. Lovren is leading the line and you clearly see him and Moreno push high up the pitch when City are pressing forward. You then see Skrtel drop deep following Jovetic and Johnson just caught static in between in hos own little world. A defence has to either all press high or all drop deep, you can't have a mixture of both otherwise you end up conceding 3 goals.
So back to my original point of them having to do some serious work on our defensive tactics and having everyone on the same page and reacting as quicker.

Ok IMH! So 2 drop 2 don't, which 2 are to blame? City have quick players so you could argue drop deeper. I just think some people have clearly made their mind up about Skrtel and are quick to criticise him overlooking others.

By the way IMH, totally agree about Johnson, but then again who doesn't hey.

Careful Benny, the ''You have to support all players'' and ''stop the Johnson bashing'' brigade will be on your back lately.

Ed, I knew my strong views on Johnson would have you say that line. And tbh, I thought the team was great for the majority of the game. This guy though. I refuse to support him. He doesn't give a rubbish about the club, his colleagues or the fans. He's sitting on his 80/90k a week. Knowing he can't be dropped. He opitimises the type of footballer I despise. The sooner he's moved on the better.

25 Aug 2014 21:17:08
Moreno looks lost defensively

Its his first game in the premier league, away at the champions
we are playing 4-3-3 which means the player in frnt of him is very detached and not offering a lot of support

25 Aug 2014 21:02:00
although we have played well first half, everything is in front of Citeh's back 4.

There is no penetration and I worry that our midfield 3 doesn't have enough goals in them already. .

fingers crossed second half

25 Aug 2014 20:54:30
Played really well in the first half, shame for Moreno, just got caught out by the speed of the game and was left standing. It's not the end of the world at the moment, but we need to settle down. Why GJ is on the pitch is beyond me, but that has been done to death. Coutinho is really working hard but he needs to settle, far to often in the first half he was giving the ball away; leading to dangerous counter attacks. Hendo needs to get himself on the balla bit deeper and run at the city midfield. Every time we have done that we look dangerous and pick up free kicks. Buck has to be telling them to give the ball to Raheem because the lad is playing out of his skin. Looks dangerous every time he gets the ball. Joe Allen hasn't been bad but I would rather see Lucas on the pitch. All in all we are definitely not out of this yet. 3am where I am, so they had better not lose. I'm knackered!

25 Aug 2014 20:51:40
£117 million spent and still can't keep a clean sheet, and Johnson's still playing at the back!

25 Aug 2014 21:01:42
It was mistake and not by Johnson and we are playing the team that won the league last year away from home. And it takes time for a back-four to get used to each other. So save flippant judgements for a few weeks time at least.

Do you expect us to keep a clean sheet in every game? It won't happen matey, the prem is very competitive and regardless, we will have a very good season.

I agree. Assume Manquillo is replacing him but perhaps two new wing backs was too much for this game? I still would have done it thoigh

Absolutely shocking!
Do we actually work on defending in training??

Collectively as a unit we have been inept, Brendan's team selection was way too attack minded, this is City after all.

The midfield of Gerrard and Allen does not work. If Lucas wasn't playing then why not pick a defence minded player like Can who happens to be Lucas long term replacement.

We looked a lot more solid once Can came on.

25 Aug 2014 22:50:53
How Allen had a very good game. The game was over when Can came on and he personally didn't do a great deal, aside from get booked and dive.

25 Aug 2014 20:46:35
Tight game, and shouldn't be behind IMO. However, once again I must point out how utter useless johnson has become. His only role is to feed balls to opposing players. What does BR see that I don't?

Coop

U slate johnson but moren been the most useless player on the pitch

Moreno is a kid playing his first game in PL. what excuse does Johnson have? Not enough PL experience?

25 Aug 2014 20:43:05
Bad defensive mistake by morena but the boy will learn.
You don't get time.in the PL to dwell on the ball. Were playing better than city

So in spain you get time to dwell on the ball and make yourself look like a donkey? an he also was lucky not to give a pen away when u lunged 2 footed inside the box, he doesn't fill me with confidence at all seem a bit of a liability

25 Aug 2014 20:20:33
Edd002, I just read your post on the rumors page mate of your summary of.our buys and lallana being the shrewist buy and gerrards.long term replacement. Do you mean as our potential new captian or eventually the idea of him playing in that deep playmaker role? Thanks

{Ed002's Note - Captain, leader etc.. I would not get wrapped up in positions and tactics. Gerrard as a teenager chased around after the ball with endless energy (dog on the beach). In his early twenties he took that attacking role but would often play on the wing and could win the ball from the opposition (dog bullying the other dogs). By his early thirties he no longer has the energy to chase the youngsters after they score and has to settle back in to controlling games from that deeper position (wise old dog). By his mid thirties he will be a sports expert and game show host on an Arab television station (lap dog). Lallana will do just fine I think.}

Clear as day!

25 Aug 2014 19:54:40
I'm not sure why sakho is replaced by lovren. Does Rodgers not rate him ed? He hasn't really managed to get a good run of games to fully judge him

{Ed002's Note - #WonderDogSparky has apparently given an update on Twitter.}

Although I like Sakho, he doesn't fill me with confidence!

25 Aug 2014 19:28:09
To the tune of the Addams Family theme song:

He's crazy and he's kooky
His pace and class are spooky
Why must it always be me?
He's Balotelli!

{Ed002's Note - First two lines are great. But then you fell over your iambic feet.}

Lol lol Ed you're too funny, it was good until the last two lines haha

Who admits to googling the definition of iambic?

{Ed002's Note - An interesting question. Surely the educational system is not that far down the pan? I worry at the lack of Beatnik poets coming out of England nowadays.}

26 Aug 2014 07:59:34
Very good Ed002, but really, as if all football songs follow strict versification. work with me here:

He's crazy and he's kooky
His pace and class are spooky
His goals are never flukey
Signor Balotelli!

26 Aug 2014 05:42:27
Fair enough Ed002, but I do love that shirt he wore. I'm sure someone can come up with a better third line.

Come on you Reds!

25 Aug 2014 19:15:47
Is the must play clause almost confirmed with jonhson now? Manquillo has been brilliant, shame! i'd offer him 20 grand extra a week to remove it only one more year haha

COME ON RED MEN DO EM TONIGHT!!

JFT96 YNWA

{Ed002's Note - Manquillo lacks experience.}

25 Aug 2014 23:41:42
I agree ed but how do players get experience? By being given a chance to show what they can do, Johnson is experienced but that doesn't help his performances or more importantly his consistency, sterling didn't have experience but was given a chance, I hear what your saying tho, conversely if given a chance and diesbt take it the flak that would fly could damage someone beyond repair as I fear with Johnson :(

{Ed002's Note - He is inexperienced at a senior level anywhere. That will come through training with the squad (he has not done much of that) and being eased in to the team (don't throe him in at the deep end).

26 Aug 2014 05:42:11
Ed002 your right but and its a big but what's the use of the experience if GJ has another poor game, last season and last week that experiece never showed its head because he kept on making mistakes of a young player at least the young player has an excuse of little to none experience but he will elarn, the sooner GJ goes the quicker Liverpool fc can move on for the better,, for me manquillo should have started after last week, because GJ never done enough to get in the team this week

25 Aug 2014 19:06:57
Lucas not in the squad think he's leaving.

I'm not unhappy after last weeks performance, but still a great servant.

ha Brendan's Rodgers reaction from the Monday night panel was
Hilarious. When asked about balotelli he just replys trouble and laughs.

25 Aug 2014 19:17:30
You could only have 5 in the bench, 1 GK and 1 Defender a must

25 Aug 2014 19:11:04
So, Johnson starts. I wish him all the best. But that ends the speculation. He definitely has a clause in his contract. Else I don't see any reason for him starting ahead Monquillo or Flanagan.

Good luck to the Lads and Johnson.

Don't necessarily disagree, but to be fair Flanagan is still injured and Manquillo is still very young and inexperienced. Will be interesting to see what happens once Flanagan is available.

25 Aug 2014 19:19:06
Flanagan is unfit, but you're right it is ridiculous that he has replaced Manquillo! Outraged!!

Well said Harry, even though Johnson isn't everyones choice he is playing for us, therefore we should get behind him and everyone else that is involved.

Red Rum

Lol.this is the first time I have seen fans wishing a player all the best when he's still plays for Liverpool

Fornax

who made the most mistakes last week and who played the best out of the 2 last week, that's your answer for the inexperience

25 Aug 2014 18:47:40
So Mario Balotteli cost allegedly 16m and Di Maria costs for United around 64m so that is four times the Balotteli fee. Crazy each way you look at this!

Hardly crazy. either Di Maria is 4 times better, or United have 4 times more spending power?

1st point. Why does the fees bother you?
2nd point, why you so interested in uniteds transfers?

Unless he had a big help in them getting back into champions league then its not so crazy and they can afford it why does everyone get so hung up on fees and money so much who cares what any club spend as long as its within their transfer structure and able to afford it

I don't think the OP is bothered as such about the fee. He might find it funny that Utd are paying so much for a wing back!

Reportedly used as a 2nd striker or wide right in a 433 so not a wingback as such

No need for that type of reply Boca.

1st point. Why does the fees bother you?
2nd point, why you so interested in uniteds transfers?

1) I'm just basically saying that these are the two most recent big transfer news. It's just a massive difference between two players. Did I take a dig at United? no? I'm just stating the fees.
2) refer to first point

Do you not think the difference is crazy?
if it was the other way around with Liverpool signing di Maria I'd think it was crazy being 6m off of Ronaldos fee to Madrid

25 Aug 2014 18:33:51
All this talk of another cm, Why do we need one?

Well with Lucas not being included today I think that may signal his departure, may just be an injury or something but it's not been mentioned as far as i'm aware.

If this is the case, I feel another central midfielder would be required at some point this season, with only one of Can or Allen realistically being our option off the bench. If an injury was to occur we would have next to no cover, although Lallana or Coutinho could possibly drop back into a midfield 3 until a decent replacement is found.

{Ed002's Note - If it turns out Lucas has a groin injury I am guessing he has been "Brendaned" and will be leaving.}

25 Aug 2014 17:50:36
Sorry guys but couldn't resist the avatar lol ;-)

25 Aug 2014 17:38:32
Hyy Ed
I am happy with the transfers Liverpool made so far. I just want to know is there any more arrival u expect. I hope with a backup keeper and CM to arrive. And what your opinion about outgoings who u expect to leave.
Keep up the good work
And all the best to gerrard and co for tonight big clash with man city. Hope the y win.
Thanxxx

{Ed002's Note - There has been talk of Romero.}

25 Aug 2014 17:13:53
hi all

i think we have made a great deal in signing MB ( great initials lol ), he cost a lot less than other strikers we were linked with, h heas also took a 50% wage drop and he looked serious in the pics I've seen of him, which to me is a good thing because it means he is here to play football and show everyone he means buissnes what a fairy tale it would have been if he could have played tonight and scored the winner but he will get them next time, he fits BR model of buying players with a point to prove and if ever a player wants to make a point it MB, I can't wait to see him in a Liverpool kit, I think there's a good bet to be had on him to score 11 or more goals this season, I can't remember who was doing it but I think it was 10/11 to do it,

do any of the fans want him to take the pens or leave stevie with the duty, I prefer SG, does anyone know if he is any good at free kicks

I'd leave Stevie to pens and let balo do the freekicks

Hes scored some peaches of free kicks on youtube. Not sure how many usually fly over though. As not seen too much of him.

25 Aug 2014 16:45:24
I think balo is going to prove everyone wrong.

It's last chance saloon for him and he knows it. Rewind to saurez it was the same thing no one wanted to take a chance on him and look how that worked out.

People may point out saurezs biting but he's been class ever since he came and we've sold him for 3 x what we paid.

Play Sturridge and balo up top together.

I have to disagree with your point about balo and suarez, suarez always wanted to win and always wants to play, the same can't be said about balo in fact a lot of people have said the same thing about balo and I've seen it myself, he sometime is not interested in the game like he does not want to play, he mopes around and looks like he can't be bothered playing,

i do agree with you this could be his last chance to come good and that he looks like he wants it, he has taken a pay cut from 200 to 100 grand a week but there is incentives in his contract to make it back up to 2oo or near to it, the pics I seen of him showed me he looks more serious and he looks a bit older so maybe he has changed and we will get the best out of him, I hope so

I agree with you pal, but not being interested falls into the last chance bracket.

Balo messes up this time I'd imagine he's off to turkey lol.

25 Aug 2014 14:49:39
Afternoon one and all.

With the imminent arrival of Mario Balotelli, I can't help but think is he our new Stan Collymore?

Both players have had a troubled private life which has overshadowed their obvious talent to play football.

We all know where Stan ended up. Here's hoping Mario comes to his senses, concentrates on his football and realises his immense potential.

As for tonight's game I'm predicting a high scoring draw 3-3.

Gordy

I'm excited about Mario, He should be given the benefit of doubt until he does anything wrong while playing for Liverpool and if he does should still be supported.

{Ed002's Note - Like biting Suarez during a Champions League game?}

Ed you really are soooooo funny.

25 Aug 2014 16:11:25
yes Ed002 you just described the perfect scenario.

Balo does not resolve to violence on the pitch because he knows he will destroy anyone who dares challenge him, he's cocky like that. You know what I mean, he's that guy that would rather laugh in someone's face.

I'm talking about off field misdemeanours, that shouldn't not be over hyped.

Ballo not violent on the pitch? Lol

25 Aug 2014 14:44:50
theirs nothing I like best than being stuck to ssn or the Liverpool rumor sites on deadline day just waiting for that massive unexpected arrival.
every year though i'm left disappointed as are business is always done by the week before.
so if mr ayre is listening just for me keep that one deal back for about 10 pm deadline night .

Andy Carroll?

I'd rather we do our business early to allow players to adjust / climate ise to the surroundings etc.

I know what you mean fella.

Red Rum

25 Aug 2014 14:26:13
According to an article I was reading Henderson and Lallana were in the top 5 most hard working players in the league based on ground covered last season. There wasn't one City, Arsenal or Chelsea player in the top 10 of that list.

These 2 players are going to be crucial in our system this season with both players constantly harassing the opposition and not allowing them to dictate the game in midfield. Not only do they have bags of energy for pressing, but more importantly they have the ability to both defend and attack. In my opinion we have 2 of the leagues best all round midfielders who will prove to be just that over the course of the season. I just can't wait to see them play together now.

Red Rum

Spot on mate. When these two play together we will not lose the midfield battle. Their pressing is relentless.

Totally agree Red-Rum & EMS
Lallana is going to be a huge success.
He has all the attributes that all previous LFC managers have wanted (besides Hodgson)
Great technical ability, work ethic, attitude, commitment and humility.
I hope he comes on tonight and gets the winner.

Surely if none of the other teams have one & one of those finished above us then it shows that you don't need one let alone two?

25 Aug 2014 13:17:03
I think we can score tonight but it is the other end of the pitch which concerns me.
Watching City it seems they like to try and get in behind the full backs so it is vital we are switched on on both flanks and our midfielders cover the runs in behind from their full backs.
At Anfield last season they scored twice like this and I hope BR and his coaching team have identified the threat and have a plan to stop it.
Come on Red Men

25 Aug 2014 10:38:27
Why is everyone so defeatist about tonight's match?
I have seen several people mentioning a draw would be a good.
Guys we are supposed to be challenging for the title . We need to go for the three points and I don't care how-Parking the bus or other ways
This is Liverpool Football Club.
We need to have a winning mentality.
Last year without Gerrard with an average back line and a misfiring Suarez in that match we managed to outplay them.
We have a much better back line now. Sterling on fire. Lovren.
Manchester City looked average against Newcastle.
Their biggest strength Yaya Toure seems to be still craving for a Birthday Cake . Looked lazy and off the pace.
Aguero is not a 100% and I think Mangala also isn't.
Tonight provides an excellent opportunity for a win .
Onwards & Upwards

25 Aug 2014 11:09:26
I am more than confident of winning tonight.

25 Aug 2014 11:11:25
Agree. No reason why we shouldn't be capable of 3 points tonight. Why not? Enjoy the Bank Holiday, and the Match fellow Reds and EDs.

Loving the pic reet

as for tonight, I just don't think we are 100% fit and on form (nobody really is though). I will only be happy with a win but with that said, I will just be relieved we didn't lose if a draw is the outcome

Agreed mate it's a winnable game based on previous with city.

Points over performance in the first month mate.

I'll take a 1 nil bore draw tonight thanks!

Well said Reet.

We need to play exactly the same way we did last time we played them.

We need to ensure that we make it as frustrating for them as possible by not allowing them space to play.

I'm going for a 1-2 win for us with both Sterling and Skrtel to score.

Red Rum

Completely agree; we beat them at the end of last season and also in pre-season (although that would be classed as a friendly).

Sterling the key man for me tonight.

Go to win; if we only get a draw then so be it - win or draw and that would be improvement on last seasons games against both opposition!

I think city will win because, while we are title contenders, we have a whole new squad and have lost our best player.

City on the other hand are the reigning champions and have an unchanged if not slightly improved squad, and they are the home side, at a ground where nobody takes points from.

Not saying we won't be as good as them later on in the season, I just think this game has come way way too early for us as half our new signings won't even be playing.

25 Aug 2014 12:26:04
It's a big game for both teams, City will not be going into this game thinking they have an easy win on their hands. They will dread facing us at this stage just as much as we dread facing them.

Looking at it from the most pessimistic perspective, if were a bit shaky due to it being start of the season, if we're going to lose tonight at least get the City game out the way rather than losing to another side and still have to face City away later on in the season.

Predicting a scrappy 2-1 win to us, but wouldn't be disappointed with a draw for the toughest fixture of the season.

If we play like we did against Southampton then we will get humped.

I think we were extremely unlucky not to get something last season at the etihad. If happily take a draw, i'd love to see us win but they are a quality team - especially at home. It will be interesting to see practically a new back four if the new full backs come in along side Lovren - I'm not sure but I suspect Johnson will start at right back with Moreno coming into left back. City are very physical in the middle - we could see Can come in for Lucas. Then again Allen had a good game last week when he came on.

Options all over!

Excited for tonight

They looked poor last week and if I'm being honest so did we. Anyone can win this game if were better than them we'll take the points. All the talk will be on Balotelli taking the pressure off Sturridge and I'm backing him to fire us to a win. Absolutely can't wait for this one! Come onnnn!

Draw at halftime and Liverpool to win.


Red Rum

25 Aug 2014 14:06:26
Challenging for the title would and could mean a draw at their place and 3 points at ours.

Whilst I agree with all the comments, and whilst we certainly can be confident with our ability level, not losing is also important, especially away from home to a rival for top places. It's a 6 pointer. Having said that, some teams are not suited to sit and play out a draw and if we try and do that, it could backfire. So, attack is probably the answer. I'm sorry, that's 2mins of your life you won't get back.

Where as I agree with the sentiment, that we have a good chance of the 3 points. I'm happy with the draw.
people bringing up the game at the etihad need to rmeember the thumping they gave us in the 2nd half at anfield. (although I only read reports and saw highlights) Football is swings and roundabouts in turns of teams. This will be a tough game. I'm happy with a clean sheet 0-0, showing our defense has improved. Right now we have a shedload of new additions who have to gel together as well. I want a win, but I won't be upset with a draw

25 Aug 2014 08:18:34
Good morning all

Eds do we have interest in the young lad from Inter, Kovacic? I've seen we're trying to include him in a swap deal?

{Ed002's Note - Twitter again? I have no idea if Liverpool are interested - they certainly do not appear to have shown an interest.}

25 Aug 2014 14:31:59
Ed002 kovacic is BR main target to rotate with gerrard + can play the allen role. last january we were told he not for sale.
lucas will have to leave proberly to balance the books.
lucas is not the same player after his injury before he was our best player for a while.
kovacic is a very good player similar to boban, he is br type of player very good on the ball and sees a pass.
fsg will allow this transfer he will cost 20+ but he is young.
Malta

{Ed002's Note - Although a representative of Mateo Kovacic said that the player cannot perform under Walter Mazzarri and he would be ready to consider offers from certain clubs (effectively Borussia Dortmund, Bayern Munich or any of the major London clubs), the player has backtracked from that position. A deal with Real Madrid was being negotiated but the player is seemingly now happy at Inter. Liverpool never came in to it.}

25 Aug 2014 09:02:03
As much as I'm looking forward to tonights game I can't help thinking it is coming a bit too soon for us. City have virtually the same team as last season and we've got a lot of new signings and no Suarez. Hope the referee makes up for that shambles of a decision to give Sterling off-side in the last match we played at mancity.

25 Aug 2014 09:20:27
We should take the game to City. Plain and simple. We would concede, that's assured. We must score a a couple.
This game would show BR's Desire and Character.

Even with old team we won't have suarez ( ban) am happy with our team so rol on citeh YNWA

City have almost the same squad we came close to beating yeah, while our squad is arguably better than last years.

25 Aug 2014 12:45:25
Red Ace, I put that decision behind me after Sakho's flying foul on Dzeko at Anfield. Remember? I couldn't stop laughing, what was he thinking?!

25 Aug 2014 05:28:11
I know I might not be one of the true fan for folks in here with what am writing but I actually do fear for the youngsters and the club finance. I seriously think Brendon got no idea when he is buying a players. It seems like he is buying a player for the shake of buying.

Stu, migno and Cou being exceptions, all of his signing has rarely played a part for lfc. What was the purpose of buying Markovic when when had many talented youngster waiting to come through ranks. What does Markovic brings that Ibe would not? I still can not understand the need of buying wingers while kicking your younster! Sterling has been the player he is today because he got a chance. So, let us give others get a chance too!

Saying that with the signing we have made (if they live the expectations) we will not have to sign anyone for 3 years if none leaves. Assaidi, borini, aspas, alberto, illori? Why buy them if you can not play them? The signing we have made this seasons however have been great signings especially can, lovern and lallana. But I still doubt the signing of Markovic. And Ed002 with our signing this season, I actually think we will not be doing major bussiness for next 4 transfer window as we have strengthened all our departments, so with that the owners can solely focus on stadium. Whatever its is, Ayre deserves a credit for a wonderful window!

should BR be sacked shall he fail to get top 4? ( I think we will make top 4 BTW).

25 Aug 2014 07:34:37
Who was it again that gave Sterling his chance?

This post is just utter nonsense Rodgers has been one of the best managers I can remember for a long time in promoting youth players. Not just that but he also has built a top team with a British core. So the negativity in your post for improving the squad with the signing of one of the most highly rated youngsters in the world Markovic is totally uncalled for. The whole point of sending Ibe on loan is so he can get game time something he would not have got much of even without Markovic's arrival.

And no Rodgers should not be sacked if we fail to make the top four, I find it strange that you would even suggest that he should be.

{Ed001's Note - didn't Dalglish give Sterling his chance?}

Have to say you don't really make tourmaline very clearly in this post. I, sort of get what you say that BR has brought in a number of players only for them to be moved on, sold or loaned but that may be down to the players, the high expectations for instance success or the realisation he got it wrong either way I think he has learned from those mistakes. The new signings are all quality and yes markovic does seem if any the one that may not be needed given the players waiting to come through but he is obviously a talent so let's wish him well and hope, he gets the winner tonight!

This season will be tough but hey so was the last. Buckle up with Buck n enjoy the ride

25 Aug 2014 09:45:35
I think everyone so far is being a little disrepectful to Markovic considering you have not seen him play a competitive game for us.
This lad is highly rated worldwide as a future star of the game, I can't confirm that because I too have not seen him play.
Give the lad a chance before you berate him, he wears the shirt you adore and from what iv read he will be giving his all to help our club be succesful.

We all know Ibe has potential but you cannot compare him to Markovic.

He has won 4 league titles in 4 years, won domestic cups, played European and International football and is now experiencing his 3rd different country of professional football before he is 21.

I believe Ibe will get his chance with us eventually but maybe a loan is best at the moment for him to continue his development and show what he can do on a regular basis.

I mentioned before the transfer window began that I was worried about the quality youth players we have. Yes, Sterling and Flanagan have had a chance, but I think Rogers was forced into that decision because he didn't have the money or time to get somebody in.
Now he has had money and time I feel that he has overdone it a bit.
We do seem to have bought some quality and we definately needed to strenghten, but it seemed the perfect time to introduce some more like suso, ibe, flanagan and others.
I do really wonder what them players must be thinking.
Anyway, we have a great squad now with a lot of depth. And can't wait for the city game. Come on! YNWA

Didn't really get the point of the post, you seemed to contradict every point you where trying to make.

I can't agree with you there mate . BR has spent money and yes there have been players that have underwhelmed .

In every transfer there is an element of risk. I think that overall his signings have been positive, he has given, Studge, Hendo, Raheem, Coutinho the confidence to express themselves and now they are all regarded as top players who are worth significantly more to the club than before BR.

With regards to Allen, Borini I believe that he has given Allen numerous chances to prove himself and although he is a good player, he has not convinced me at all. Borini has had less opportinities but has in my view been unlucky that we had such quality ahead of him.

BR has got us into the top 4, looks like we are a good bet this year for top 4 as well . He has put a philosophy in place, and strengthened our unity . He has been heavily supported by FSG and not making top 4 this season would be a major setback .

So far so good, I think that he has promoted youth, Raheem, flano, Ibe stand out but our youth sides have a number of outstanding prospects and I beleive we will see further progress with the youth this season.

I for one am glad he is at Liverpool and enjoyed last season almost as much as 2001 ( Treble) 2005 champs despite not winning a thing .

EDD 'S 001 you are right it was DALGLISH who gave STERLING his chance, it is a total MYTH that RODGER'S gives youth a chance, he BUYS youth. . he most certainly does not promote youth, this is his 3rd season and to date he has not brought anybody through from the academy. .
as I say a total MYTH. .

Why do a lot of you assume you can just throw youngsters in to a high pressure season (demands will be high to finish in top 4 and put on a good showing in other competitions) and they will all end up playing like Sterling? Flanno has been in and around the first team squad for 3+ seasons, and last year was the first time he was praised for his performances. Compare us to Arsenal (who have been lauded for years for giving youth a chance and who, apparently, have some VERY talented young players on their books). Now that they're not guaranteed top 4 every season, how many of these youngsters do you see starting week in week out? The truth is that the big teams try and win every game because their fans demand it, and the best chance of winning any game is to play your best players.

I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see the youngsters get a few more minutes, but if you want success, you have to understand that the manager isn't just going to throw these kids in for no reason. Younger players will get their chances in the cups, and if they impress, they can stake a claim for a few more games.

Oh, and BR gave Smith his first EPL minutes, and has had a lot of the youth players training with the 1st team and travelling with the 1st team squad for experience, so I don't think he's neglecting the youth players, he's just doing it how he sees fit.

RUGBY PARKER, it was BR choice to have MOSES and CISSOKO on the bench last year, your not telling me that IBE and SMITH couldn't of done that job and gained experience and also saved the club money.

25 Aug 2014 03:58:38
With AC Milan chief executive Galliani saying Balotelli has left the club it is now hopefully only a matter of time before the paperwork is done and he is a Red.

Have a nice bank holiday and look forward to Tuesday.

24 Aug 2014 19:37:58
Hi Ed001 and fellow reds,

Just want to know your opinion on this one.

Ignoring their price tag, who you rather have out of Di Maria and Adam Lallana? I know they play in different positions and are different type of players. But I for one are very interested to know your honest opinion.

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - you have said it yourself, you can't compare them. I am not a fan of Di Maria at all though, lacks any intelligence about his play, hence his inconsistency. He does work hard, but it is often wasted, due to not having the know how to know where to direct his efforts for maximum effect.}

Di Maria's best position is behind the main striker, he is primarily a CAM but has operated on the right flank bcoz of his pace and work rate. Not sure if the mancs needed another CAM in their ranks. Poor Mata and Kagawa. Really got to feel for those two.

25 Aug 2014 05:46:48
Di- Maria would play on the flanks.
Either Rooney or Mata is getting dropped. and it must mbe Mata.

Harry, Di Maria can play on the flanks but it is clearly not his favored position. He played CAM for Real last season, and had his best season to date. As a winger, he is good but not world class. The Mancs have just bought another player who is best through the centre even when it is pretty obvious they lack quality wingers. Someone like Cuadrado or even Sanchez would have been a more valuable signing for them. Di Maria will simply take up Mata's space in the squad, so I really do not see much improvement to their first eleven apart from Di Maria bringing just the slight advantage of pace to their front line.

Boom
Rooney is past his sell buy date. Fergie should have got a fee for him and sold him to Chelsea. Although I am glad Utd still play him. He is nothing like the player he was in his early days.

Di maria's best season at real came 2 years ago operating on the left. He was terrible in most the games I saw last season. He doesn't have a clue wht runs to make and where the space is. He's good at running, so should be placed on the wing, he's a complete waste in the centre. He got replaced by bale on the right, kroos, and Modric are ahead of him in the role of playing further up, in an attacking role. Possibly even isco

Can't compare them. Di Maria is clearly faster and, one on one, can probably beat a man more comfortably than Lallana but in terms of game intelligence, seeing the pass and playing the right pass Lallana is better. You never know how new signings will do but Lallana has the potential to do very very well.