Liverpool Banter Archive February 25 2011

 

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25 Feb 2011 23:43:08
You two are SUCH fantastic Liverpool fans, both having fun slagging of our players, personaly if my wife openly slagged of one of our own players during a game i would be so ashamed of her, but what do i know, I'm just a Liverpool fan! !

MR EM

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It's more my opinion than 'slagging off'. I'm sure you'll agree that poulsen hasn't done much to warrant any praise whatsoever from anyone. I still support them both no matter what when there wearing the red shirt but it doesn't deny the fact that they aren't good enough, especially poulsen.

Stu.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 23:47:15
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and you would replace him with who?
I think our manager would have a better idea of deciding who is good enough to play for LFC
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So apprently, opinions are no longer allowed at football-rumours.co.uk?

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 23:48:35
Ed, i've always liked pablo hernandez of valencia. Think he'd be perfect for us but it's looks very unlikely we'll get him.
What do you think of him?

Stu. {Ed001's Note - I like him a lot, he would provide us with something different - pace!}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 23:35:15
Ed007 has got to be in the no surely.

Chris

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 23:38:59
You two are SUCH fantastic Liverpool fans, both having fun slagging of our players, personaly if my wife openly slagged of one of our own players during a game i would be so ashamed of her, but what do i know, I'm just a Liverpool fan! !

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Didn't slag him off, I was proud that my bird new something about football. . Personally Iam behind every player who puts on the red shirt when there playing, still aloud an opinion if I don't think he Is good enough, but as long as he is playing I have me blind faith in him, so do u rate every player that plays for Liverpool?? Do u have an opinion as a football fan?? Or r u like the bitters and think that every player in the team is the best in the world??

Joey k

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 23:30:21
Stu.

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I think just saying "poulsen" says it all, I went the game on Thursday with me bird, n she just said out the blue he is carp that number 28, in the middle of the match. . I couldn't of been prouder to call her me bird ha

Joey k

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You two are SUCH fantastic Liverpool fans, both having fun slagging of our players, personaly if my wife openly slagged of one of our own players during a game i would be so ashamed of her, but what do i know, I'm just a Liverpool fan! !

MR EM

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 23:15:28
25 Feb 2011 23:02:55
Couldn't agree more with joey k about kuyt. Time and time again i see him give the ball away or miscontrol it.
In my opinion one of the only things that keeps him in the team at times is the vital goal he always pops up with. He'll play an absolute shocker and then pop up with a goal just like sparta on thursday.
I give gim credit for his work rate but that's about all he offers. His technical attributes are pretty shocking. He's not very fast, and his crossing isn't very good either, which is something we'll need if we're going to start playing Carroll.
I would like him to sign the new contract though as he'd be a good back up striker/ winger to have. But i'd rather see someone with better technique and pace in his place come next season. Not sure who like!

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Thank god there are some sane people on this website.

Joey k

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I don't think i need to mention poulsen!

Stu.

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I think just saying "poulsen" says it all, I went the game on Thursday with me bird, n she just said out the blue he is carp that number 28, in the middle of the match. . I couldn't of been prouder to call her me bird ha

Joey k

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 23:02:55
Couldn't agree more with joey k about kuyt. Time and time again i see him give the ball away or miscontrol it.
In my opinion one of the only things that keeps him in the team at times is the vital goal he always pops up with. He'll play an absolute shocker and then pop up with a goal just like sparta on thursday.
I give gim credit for his work rate but that's about all he offers. His technical attributes are pretty shocking. He's not very fast, and his crossing isn't very good either, which is something we'll need if we're going to start playing Carroll.
I would like him to sign the new contract though as he'd be a good back up striker/ winger to have. But i'd rather see someone with better technique and pace in his place come next season. Not sure who like!

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Thank god there are some sane people on this website.

Joey k

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I don't think i need to mention poulsen!

Stu.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:59:03
25 Feb 2011 22:36:57
Couldn't agree more with joey k about kuyt. Time and time again i see him give the ball away or miscontrol it.
In my opinion one of the only things that keeps him in the team at times is the vital goal he always pops up with. He'll play an absolute shocker and then pop up with a goal just like sparta on thursday.
I give gim credit for his work rate but that's about all he offers. His technical attributes are pretty shocking. He's not very fast, and his crossing isn't very good either, which is something we'll need if we're going to start playing Carroll.
I would like him to sign the new contract though as he'd be a good back up striker/ winger to have. But i'd rather see someone with better technique and pace in his place come next season. Not sure who like!

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Thank god there are some sane people on this website.

Joey k

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:30:50
Is ED001 new? {Ed001's Note - no mate, we have just put the numbers in to make it easier for people to tell us apart. I was ed's note before.}

Ed is it possible you cud put a list up of the new and old names so we can tell wt ur new names are?

Big Si

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:36:57
Couldn't agree more with joey k about kuyt. Time and time again i see him give the ball away or miscontrol it.
In my opinion one of the only things that keeps him in the team at times is the vital goal he always pops up with. He'll play an absolute shocker and then pop up with a goal just like sparta on thursday.
I give gim credit for his work rate but that's about all he offers. His technical attributes are pretty shocking. He's not very fast, and his crossing isn't very good either, which is something we'll need if we're going to start playing Carroll.
I would like him to sign the new contract though as he'd be a good back up striker/ winger to have. But i'd rather see someone with better technique and pace in his place come next season. Not sure who like!

Stu.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:30:01
There is a lot of average players being linked to lfc on this website and it disheartened me to read it. Nesv will spend enormous in the summer. Regardless of European cup or not. Big money, think big win big. Sir kenny will be there, thank god. Stop linking average players to us get a grip. Richy red lips Williams

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:08:24
We should go for
m'villa.
marveaux is pretty much done on a bosman
a pacey winger maybe young, nzogbia

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:11:53
Just been reading some of the posts on lucas, im going to defend the lad hes come over from brasil a young skinny boy who in his first and second season was not good enough, but he has improved greatly, lucas has gained weight and confidence to go along with it and is still improving hes still a young lad changing from attacking mid to a defence mid its a whole new tactical change in mind set the lad has done himself proud i for one back the lad and can see him getting better and better.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:12:19
Would like like to see the below arrive this summer.

S. Marvueax (free)
E. Banega 13 million
A. Turan 10 million
O. Toivonen 12-15 million

If the likes of Sterling, Coady, Suso, Mavinga and Pacheco are given some game time as well. We could have a very good young squad developing.

What do you think Ed any chance of above?

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:13:29
Ofcourse kenny has a better idea mate just flouting my opinion round, and to answer you question, ever banega! id probably say scott parker was better too but by all accounts is a bit of a tool and maybe even james mccarthy at wigan. dya want any more?


Benega would be good, parker too old, mccarthy not good enough, we are building for the future not short term, players brought in will be young and sign 5-6 year contracts as our new strikers did.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:23:46
If some of you would just watch Lucas his game is to disrupt the opposition game just as Mashe did then pass the ball to gerrard or who ever plays in that position, he gives away fouls but that is the nature of his role, but unlike Mashe he don't argue with ref and get extra cards he just gets on with his game, he will end up a better player than Mashe.if you can't see it then you can't read a game of football.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 22:27:53
If we had a team of grafters with no ability we would be relegated. .

whoever is relegated this year will be hard working teams thay ultimatley lack ability. .

Dave. .
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YES YES YES YES!
That comment should end this argument all together.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:56:14
25 Feb 2011 21:37:18
25 Feb 2011 19:36:37
25 Feb 2011 18:55:16
To the joker who wrote kuyt was playing for a new contract have you never seen a liverpool match before since we signed him dirk has been the hardest working player by far played out of position and not once ever complained a true team player who runs himself into the ground every game no he isn't the quickest or the most skillful but as for heart hes unequaled a true liverpool legend and to suggest he tried harder for a new contract is doing him a huge disservice hang your head in shame
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In the league
4 goals
5 assists

That's isn't good anough for a winger/ striker who has played all season as first choice.

Hardworking is good, but not enough.

I know opta stats don't always give a fair analysis, but his pass completion % is 6% less than any other player at Liverpool, seems rather believeable after watching him give the ball away all season

Joey k
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Raul Meireles

5 goals
3 assists

Meireles 23 games
Kuyt 22 games
Based on your comments and these stats I assume you would like us to sell Meireles as well? ?
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Raul is a playmaker, and it's only his first season in prem and he is improving each game he plays in the prem, and if you read my earlier post regarding kuyt I never said sell him, I said his abilities would be best used in the last 20 mins of a game were leading to apply pressure to the opposition back four when there in possession with the one thing kuyt it good at, closing down and hasseling players, also rails pass success rate it 78% whilst kuyt is 72% HE GIVES THE BALL AWAY ALL THE TIME

Joey k

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:52:30
Gents, loved all the lucas points of view tonight and there all quality arguments in his prosecution and his defence but i suppose i am just worried that we are settling for less! i have decided that if he had quality around him then WE wouldn't have a problem with him but when we are playing indifferently then the knives are sharpened and pointed in his direction regardless!

Jay Mc

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:54:39
Rumours:

Poulsen, Konch, Jova, Aqua, Insua, Degen, El Zhar out

Marveaux, Young. Adam, M'Vila, Baines/ Enrique in Ed, do you think this is likely and could you tell me who we were interested in/ bid for in Jan?

{Ed005's Note - I'm confident that if we went for those players you mentioned that we'd be in with a great chance of getting them. Well we failed with bids for Micah Richards and Ashley Young in January, and obviously Charlie Adam.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:54:47
Anyone seen anything of Douglas Costa of Shakhtar Donetsk. He has been dubbed the new Ronaldhino and he scored in their first leg triumph in the latest Champions League round.
Worth taking a look at although he only signed for them
a year ago but may be tempted with a move to the premiership- whiskeynose was keen on him but didn't have the money

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:41:11
Is ED001 new? {Ed001's Note - no mate, we have just put the numbers in to make it easier for people to tell us apart. I was ed's note before.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:37:18
25 Feb 2011 19:36:37
25 Feb 2011 18:55:16
To the joker who wrote kuyt was playing for a new contract have you never seen a liverpool match before since we signed him dirk has been the hardest working player by far played out of position and not once ever complained a true team player who runs himself into the ground every game no he isn't the quickest or the most skillful but as for heart hes unequaled a true liverpool legend and to suggest he tried harder for a new contract is doing him a huge disservice hang your head in shame
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In the league
4 goals
5 assists

That's isn't good anough for a winger/ striker who has played all season as first choice.

Hardworking is good, but not enough.

I know opta stats don't always give a fair analysis, but his pass completion % is 6% less than any other player at Liverpool, seems rather believeable after watching him give the ball away all season

Joey k
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Raul Meireles

5 goals
3 assists

Meireles 23 games
Kuyt 22 games
Based on your comments and these stats I assume you would like us to sell Meireles as well? ?

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:28:33
I'm a little confused as to all the Lucas bashing that goes on around here. Sure, he was worthless in his first few seasons, but this year (to me, at least) he has looked the real deal.
Earlier, a commenter pointed out that they would need tackling/ goal stats, before they would even listen - well, Lucas has made the most successful challenges in the PL (source - Guardian).
He's also an intelligent player - doesn't shoot every time he gets within 50 yards of goal (AKA Mascherano), and picks his plays very well, and gets back to help out whenever needed.
Sure, there are a few creases yet to iron out, but I have strong hopes for the future with this lad roaming behing Gerrard and Merieles.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:30:26
Who would you rather have in your starting XI

Charlie Adam or Lucas Leiva. .

Scott parker or Lucas Leiva. .

Ed where do you stand on the great lucas debate?

Would u take 12m and replace or give him another season.? ?

Dave. . {Ed001's Note - I would much rather have Lucas than Parker, Adam is not the same type of player at all, I don't see any reason to compare them. But I would take Lucas out of the two if I had to pick one in my 11.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:31:30
Gents, just noticed all the lucas bashing/ praising post and can't help but wonder wether half of you are missing the point. I couldnt agree more that lucas has improved ten-fold over the last 18 months and has indeed been one of the more consistent performers (you could count these on one hand). this does NOT mean he is a GOOD player effort and determination gets you a chance. . ability keeps you there and him and kuyt and ngog and poulsen and skrtel are simply not good enough to take us were we want to go. end of story! I am not saying boo them at every oportunity because we don't do that to our players. but don't be fooled about players playing well for two games out of five and are starting every game.

Not kennys fault because there isn't much to choose from. . . but there will be come august!

Thoughts ed?
Jay Mc {Ed001's Note - sorry but I disagree, he will never be accepted by a few people who blame him for every bad game. He did not play badly last night at all, but everyone is whining about how bad his performance was because the team played badly, not him.}

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Last minute of the game, Lucas made a tackle(ish) that got him a yellow card, but if you break it down, he made that selfless interception to save a real good opportunity on goal. Xabi used to do it virtually every game. The guy is playing well in a role that is not natural to him and he is statistically the second best tackler in the prem (opta stats)

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:18:27
Gents, just noticed all the lucas bashing/ praising post and can't help but wonder wether half of you are missing the point. I couldnt agree more that lucas has improved ten-fold over the last 18 months and has indeed been one of the more consistent performers (you could count these on one hand). this does NOT mean he is a GOOD player effort and determination gets you a chance. . ability keeps you there and him and kuyt and ngog and poulsen and skrtel are simply not good enough to take us were we want to go. end of story! I am not saying boo them at every oportunity because we don't do that to our players. but don't be fooled about players playing well for two games out of five and are starting every game.

Not kennys fault because there isn't much to choose from. . . but there will be come august!

Thoughts ed?
Jay Mc {Ed001's Note - sorry but I disagree, he will never be accepted by a few people who blame him for every bad game. He did not play badly last night at all, but everyone is whining about how bad his performance was because the team played badly, not him.}
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completely see where your coming from but can i ask this, will you be happy if lucas is our starting defensive mid come the start of next season?
Jay Mc {ed's note - I would rather Lucas than someone like Cattermole or Parker.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:20:26
Gents, just noticed all the lucas bashing/ praising post and can't help but wonder wether half of you are missing the point. I couldnt agree more that lucas has improved ten-fold over the last 18 months and has indeed been one of the more consistent performers (you could count these on one hand). this does NOT mean he is a GOOD player effort and determination gets you a chance. . ability keeps you there and him and kuyt and ngog and poulsen and skrtel are simply not good enough to take us were we want to go. end of story! I am not saying boo them at every oportunity because we don't do that to our players. but don't be fooled about players playing well for two games out of five and are starting every game.

Not kennys fault because there isn't much to choose from. . . but there will be come august!

Thoughts ed?
Jay Mc {Ed001's Note - sorry but I disagree, he will never be accepted by a few people who blame him for every bad game. He did not play badly last night at all, but everyone is whining about how bad his performance was because the team played badly, not him.}

well said ed, i think people only see the best of what lucas does when we're up against better opposition an he has to do more of it, when we played chelsea he was immense, when we play lesser oposition he still does the same only less so, for some fans he will always be a scapegoat, but for me hes our player of the season, keep it up son

what dya say ed ? {ed's note - I agree he has become a scapegoat, he is playing in a position that doesn't showcase the best of a player's abilities and doing the job well. I never heard a single complaint about how many needless free kicks Mash gave away (or for that matter the ridiculous ones Parker or Cattermole who are suggested as replacements) around the edge of the box and everywhere else on the pitch for that matter. Yet I constantly hear people moaning that Lucas gives them away, of course he does! It is the nature of the position, I think people just don't understand what they are talking about to be honest. Makalele used to give away loads of free kicks yet he is acknowledged as the best holding midfielder of recent times.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:22:24
Hi all does anyone know the words to the suarez song . . . . . . timmo lfc

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:24:25
Can anyone tell me why eveyone is calling lucas a squad player whats the differece between squad player and other one i mean we are all a squad and well dosent gerrard and andy fall under squad

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:10:15
Gents, just noticed all the lucas bashing/ praising post and can't help but wonder wether half of you are missing the point. I couldnt agree more that lucas has improved ten-fold over the last 18 months and has indeed been one of the more consistent performers (you could count these on one hand). this does NOT mean he is a GOOD player effort and determination gets you a chance. . ability keeps you there and him and kuyt and ngog and poulsen and skrtel are simply not good enough to take us were we want to go. end of story! I am not saying boo them at every oportunity because we don't do that to our players. but don't be fooled about players playing well for two games out of five and are starting every game.

Not kennys fault because there isn't much to choose from. . . but there will be come august!

Thoughts ed?
Jay Mc {Ed001's Note - sorry but I disagree, he will never be accepted by a few people who blame him for every bad game. He did not play badly last night at all, but everyone is whining about how bad his performance was because the team played badly, not him.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 21:06:37
25 Feb 2011 20:17:09
Does anyone agree that liverpool should enter their reserves into a lower league to get a taste for what it could be like at top level. Please Comment.
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What are you talking about?? ?

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 20:33:03
Actually mate its the TRUTH, why do the Eds even rule out all the TOP players when mardid and barca are interested! Young players now adays look at success and style of play. LFC finished 6th last season, going to finish 5th this season and style of play has been poor and haven't won a trophy in 5 YEARS. Your hazards, sanchez's and GANSO'S want to join the best and LFC are well below that scale AT THE MOMENT. LFC were great in the 80's but not we have to face facts.It will be EVUDENT in the summer also when you the players WE BUY compared to barca and real!

Is there any way that the eds can weed out the fake man ure scum posters who come on here posing as genuine LFC fans? It's great that KK has restored the fear factor around Anfield once again. The bottom line is that its more interesting and exciting speculating what's going to happen at L4 rather than castle greyskull. Forever in our shadow, YNWA.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 20:36:49
Hey ed, with Purslow now officially leaving the club, could we take this as a sign that progress is being made in the CEO, or possibly even announcing an appointment shortly?

DownUnderRed.

{Editor's Note: There will obviously be progress made as time passes - but Purslow was always going to move on. What difference do you expect a new CEO to make?}

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To me the key lies in the 'E' of 'CEO'. It imparts 'executive' powers upon an individual. This means that deals, whether they be commercial or in the transfer market, can be agreed and concluded without the need to convene and seek approval from full board meetings etc, before any significant activity can take place. A CEO with true executive powers is essential for a club like Liverpool if we are to prosper. The alternative, as witnessed by the clearly hamstrung role held by Christian Purslow under the reign of H&G, is a recipe for prevarication and countless lost opportunities. Hopefully the search for a suitably qualified chief is concluded as soon as possible.

The Shoe Shine Boy

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 20:38:44
Gents, heard a few interesting ones today regarding lucas, apparently gremio are willing to pay 12 mill for him. I know he divides opinion but i would snap their hand off for that kind of money. Squad player at best and if liverpool are going to move forward a player of his ability (albeit improved ability) should not be a starting midfielder.

Jay Mc

Couldn't agree more mate. . .Sometimes I think LFC fans are a little short sighted when it comes to players who get their heads down and give 100%. .

We are all burnt from the players like Babel, Ngog, torres near the end who don't give 100% don't seem to give a S*** if we win or lose as long
as they get paid. .

Lucas and Kuyt give 100% and are model professionals but are they good enough players to compete at the top level in europe and the prem i think not. .

Jason macateer loved the club and gave his all but was S***. .

Kuyt scored the winner on Thurs and worked hard but got in good positions and wasted it every time. he lacks invention, skill and has an awful final ball, he has one good game, then two bad. .

Lucas is a steady squad player at best, people are gonna give me the facts on his stats but unless them stats are. goals. .tackles made/ won. chances created then i don't want to know. .

In a perfect world our players would give 100% every game and justify there huge wages with there ability, skill and hardwork.

If we had a team of grafters with no ability we would be relegated. .

whoever is relegated this year will be hard working teams thay ultimatley lack ability. .

Dave. .

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 20:27:15
Has it really become acceptable to think a player having 3-4 out of 10 good games is a quality standard? Lucas is an improved player and has had a few games that make you sit back and say ok, here we have a lad that has been a huge influence tonight, but then he has just as many games giving away meaningless free kicks, i think his positional sense is average at best, i will suport the player each and every game, but i will not try and convince myself that he is a rising star of liverpool quality!
Consistancy is the key and he has not strung consistant top performances together in my eyes. Raul joins the club, takes a few games to settle and then puts 7-8 quality appearances in for the club! He is quality and we could do with adding a bit more of that to the side. I wouldn't write Lucas off right away and he can add depth to the side but class and quality he shows in few small amounts. How many other players need 3-4 seasons to show ability?

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 20:14:32
Would like to see a three pronged attack of suarez carrol and lavezzi or turan, plus marveux on a free with the possibility of baines or coentrao coming in aswell. Should get rid of n'gog, poulson, and other deadwood. Should get a holding mid such as m'vila and rotate with lucas for the position. Also, should make pacheco, sterling, and suso available for loan in lower leagues to get first team experience

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 20:17:09
Does anyone agree that liverpool should enter their reserves into a lower league to get a taste for what it could be like at top level. Please Comment.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 20:19:25
25 Feb 2011 19:34:24
In response to the below - Massive Club? You don't get much bigger than LFC. To also remind you in our last 2 meetings with Barca and Madrid - We won! Sort your head out!

Actually mate its the TRUTH, why do the Eds even rule out all the TOP players when mardid and barca are interested! Young players now adays look at success and style of play. LFC finished 6th last season, going to finish 5th this season and style of play has been poor and haven't won a trophy in 5 YEARS. Your hazards, sanchez's and GANSO'S want to join the best and LFC are well below that scale AT THE MOMENT. LFC were great in the 80's but not we have to face facts.It will be EVUDENT in the summer also when you the players WE BUY compared to barca and real!

Dear oh Dear, were you around in May 2005 when LFc produced what can only be described as the most magical game of football ever? - we in fact won the Champions League - for the 5th time if you didn't know. Or even in 2006 when we won the FA cup which has been dubbed the best FA Cup final in history. Oh, lets not forget the 2007 Champions League final - Where yes we lost. . .but we got there.

Even further back when you were probably nursing on your mums boob, 2001 when we won an unbelieveable 5 trophies.

And to say that we won't attract top talent? Did you know that we signed Fernando Torres back in 2007. He's won the Euro and World Cup. Also just last month we signed a player from Uruguay called Suarez and also a little lad from Newcastle called Andy Carrol.

and as for Real Madrid. WTF have they done recently? Spent a s**t load of dough, go through more managers than a McDonalds drive thru and borrow every penny of it from the most corrupt goverment in the word.

Barca, have just sold there souls to the devil because they're skint!

LFC are a more attractive team than most these days, no debt, a trophy cabinet to make the queens jewells look like an argos catalogue and finally owners and fans who want the best for our club.

Now go away and support Chelsea will ya! !

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 19:36:37
25 Feb 2011 18:55:16
To the joker who wrote kuyt was playing for a new contract have you never seen a liverpool match before since we signed him dirk has been the hardest working player by far played out of position and not once ever complained a true team player who runs himself into the ground every game no he isn't the quickest or the most skillful but as for heart hes unequaled a true liverpool legend and to suggest he tried harder for a new contract is doing him a huge disservice hang your head in shame
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In the league
4 goals
5 assists

That's isn't good anough for a winger/ striker who has played all season as first choice.

Hardworking is good, but not enough.

I know opta stats don't always give a fair analysis, but his pass completion % is 6% less than any other player at Liverpool, seems rather believeable after watching him give the ball away all season

Joey k

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 19:29:58
Ed people say and you will probably agree with them that suso and sterling are too young and need more time but i disagree because these are two talented footballers who will no doubt have big futures at the club and could come into the first team next season suso would be 17 , 18 in november and sterling would be 17 in december , now jack whilshere made his debut for arsenal at 16 and he now starts every week in the arsenal team and is in the england squad so you can't say they need more time , also i know sterling and suso are both small lads with not the most strength ever but jack wilshere is only a little lad , also fabregas made his debut at arsenal at the age of 16 now look at both of them , fabregas and wilshere both quality players , and it shows that its best to bring youngsters in early because if you look where arsenal are in the table there challenging for the title and were fighting for a champions league / europa league spot.

i would appreciate your opinion ed , i can't see how you would disagree with this as the points made make sense and theres no doubt they both could be first team next season.

DLG {Ed001's Note - I would like to see both of them on the bench this season and coming on at the end of games to pick up experience, at least.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 18:55:16
To the joker who wrote kuyt was playing for a new contract have you never seen a liverpool match before since we signed him dirk has been the hardest working player by far played out of position and not once ever complained a true team player who runs himself into the ground every game no he isn't the quickest or the most skillful but as for heart hes unequaled a true liverpool legend and to suggest he tried harder for a new contract is doing him a huge disservice hang your head in shame

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 19:07:02
I like the way some of the players are splitting opinion; so I thought I'd add my thoughts.

Lucas; I think he's improved as a player but in my opinion he has two many average matches (not just him the whole team). Saying that I wouldn't sell him unless someone was paying over £12m for him. Players need to know there's competition for places and at the moment Poulsen and Spearing aren't pushing him hard enough. I'd keep him and sell/ give away Poulsen this summer.

Kuyt; runs all day however a lot of that is chasing his first touch with the ball. Doesn't always make the right decisions can be annoying then pops up with a goal. IMO Kuyt is the ideal squad player; gives his all but shouldn't necessary be a starter as I would expect a player in his position to have more pace, guile and skill.

Cole; I was extremally happy we got Cole in the Summer and I know he's not match fit but with our current squad we can't carry anyone and IMO he's lost his pace. I would sell in the summer (if it was worth it based upon whatever clauses he can be sold for in the summer).

Ngog; strange one this; he had a bad game the other night but holds the ball up well and is skillful but for a Striker he needs to hit the target a lot more. I'd keep him but let him go on loan to a lower premier team next season where he's going to start each week; I think that might tell us whether he can make the grade.

I want the team to always win and I support all the players good and bad however I think we've the players that can change matches for us and replaced them with players not good enough for the first team.

It's great Suarez and Carroll have joined and if we can get 4 more players while selling some of the people not getting into the first team (Jovonavic, Poulsen, Aqua, Darby (I know he's on loan at Notts County but Kelly has surpassed him and Flanagan looks a good player; also Wisdom probably won't start at centre back when he breaks into the first team so will probably play right back) etc. .

With that we need to bring in 4 Players (but these players need to be bought on the the face that if everyone is fit they are in the starting 11 (obviously it may not turn out that way but with the youngsters we have coming through we shouldn't be buying squad players); Marveaux and Tiawo have been mentioned and both are free; hopefully with player sales we'll recoup £20-£25m and if we've made a profit hopefully there will be £10-15m added to that figure. 2 x £15-20m players (DM and RW) would make the squad look a lot stronger than it currently is.

Hoola

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 18:48:20
Are you joking did you watch the game last night and against Chelsea? Him and kelly were totally awesome, best players on the pitch! !

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He played well for last the last 20mins, gives the ball away far to much in a full 90mins, it's like the opposition having an extra defensive midfielder as he is always breaking down our attacks with his poor 1st touch and dreadful final balls, he does win the ball back alot with his hard work, but then he loses it again.

Joey k

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 18:43:33
(sorry Arsenal fans! I meant thoroughly illegal, vicious and spiteful taking away of the ball from your glorious YOUNG technicians!)

steve parker u r a legend mate!
Luv reading your stff. u shud have a website all of your own mate.
= = = = = = = = =

I think any liverpool supporter should be behind Arsenal at the moment, I am supporting them in both cup and league for these reasons:
1- The Cup: If Birmingham win , that's one position less in the Europa places . risky for us
2- In the league: If they maintain the challenge , they may (just may) over take united and deny them the 19th.

Roy

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 18:11:19
"I think its about time we had a vote on Lucas.
If you think he's a good player click unbelievable and if yo think he's a bad plyer click believable.

I for one think he's an awful player, who would struggle to get in most premiership teams, and we urgently need to get rid of him"

Sorry cannot comply. Can't find the buttons you refer to. . I can see agree or disagree buttons. Maybe you are on the wrong site? Personally I think Lucas has been one of our better players for a while now (apart from last night) and people should get off his back for a bit.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 18:15:05
"What the hell is a side back? ?"

I know what a side back and short is . its a haircut.

Dyslexic Dave YWNA.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 18:22:47
Few people suggesting that Kuyt should be used more as an impact player, but in my opiniun Dirk kuyt is not someone that you would like to bring off the bench to change the game. An impact player needs pace, flare or somethin different like physical presence , kuyt doesn't really have any of these qualities.As well as this an impact sub needs to be able to make things happen and i really don't feel he can give that option, i like kuyt but feel it would be best for everyone if he doesn't sign this new contract. just my opiniun.

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Are you joking did you watch the game last night and against Chelsea?? Him and kelly were totally awesome, best players on the pitch! ! !
Olly

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 18:24:31
Few people suggesting that Kuyt should be used more as an impact player, but in my opiniun Dirk kuyt is not someone that you would like to bring off the bench to change the game. An impact player needs pace, flare or somethin different like physical presence , kuyt doesn't really have any of these qualities.As well as this an impact sub needs to be able to make things happen and i really don't feel he can give that option, i like kuyt but feel it would be best for everyone if he doesn't sign this new contract. just my opinion.

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I don't think he is an impact player to change a game and help us get a goal, but in a tough game were winning by 1 goal and there is 20mins left I think he could come on and help keep the pressure off our defence by constantly hounding the opposition defenders when there on the ball, and he works hard at that. Don't get me wrong am not a kuyt lover, but it looks like he is here to stay, therefore I feel this would be the best way to utilise the abilities he has, as we all know he dosnt have the pace or skill to be a threat as a first choice winger or striker.

Joey k

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 18:24:33
How the hell is lucas useless? Complete Joke! Not every player can score all the goals or do all the skills without Lucas we're a complete different side. We need him to do all the simple things we need him to clear out the scrap we need him to make important tackles he hardly ever misplaces passes he is so consistent. No he isn't the most skillful or the quickest but he is damn good at what he does similar to Tiote!
Top lad Lucas the real anfield faithful support not these wannabes!
Iamscouseareyou?

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 17:01:11
Few people suggesting that Kuyt should be used more as an impact player, but in my opiniun Dirk kuyt is not someone that you would like to bring off the bench to change the game. An impact player needs pace, flare or somethin different like physical presence , kuyt doesn't really have any of these qualities.As well as this an impact sub needs to be able to make things happen and i really don't feel he can give that option, i like kuyt but feel it would be best for everyone if he doesn't sign this new contract. just my opiniun.

conor''

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 17:22:59
"Ed agree with you an can't understand why so called fans talk so much cack Riise was never good enough for lfc he done a job for us but never good enough an I remember a certain game against chavski were he just gave up we need new young players oh an alonso will never come because real won't sell. . . . . . ."

Couldn't disagree more, sorry.
Riise was an outstanding player on many, many occasions. Scored many fantastic goals for us, I can think of one in particular against Man united, a free kick, and another against Chelsea in the carling cup.

Not the best defensively, but in his prime, undoubtedly the best LB we have had in a long time. Think of some of the crap we have had in the past. Djime Traore anyone? Actually no, he had an absolute blinder against AC milan in the 2005 CL final.
Still. Dossena, Konchesky, even Aurelio at times have bit under-par.

Please don't bad-mouth Riise. He is a legend, and I would welcome him back anyday. Rarely made a mistake, and had one of the sweetest left foot's in history. It's just a shame he is getting on now, because I'd play him over any of the above mentioned.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 17:30:49
"I think its about time we had a vote on Lucas.
If you think he's a good player click unbelievable and if yo think he's a bad plyer click believable.

I for one think he's an awful player, who would struggle to get in most premiership teams, and we urgently need to get rid of him"

Since this logic is confusing, (you'd think good = believable, and bad = unbelievable, +ve with +ve, -ve with -ve? nevermind. .) and they changed the buttons to agree and disagree anyway.

We should have a definite vote on Lucas.

Good + should stay = Agree
Bad + should leave = Disagree.

Personally, he is too inconsistent. Could play a blinder one match, then play like a blind man the next. I feel he has never really adapted to the PL and although he is improving of late, and you gotta hand that to him, he still causes me anxiety whenever he's on the ball.
now VOTE.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 17:30:54
Lucas is the best defensive midfielder we have got at the moment. . Kenny obviously wants to use a defensive midfielder, so why is everyone on his back, I actually think he has come on leaps and bounds and although not his best performance last night, he does the ugly job for us. . And does it pretty well. . The Chelsea game Lucas was immense, getting rather sick of people on here moaning about him wen clearly the people who don't see what he does for us don't watch every aspect of the game, the odd time he has missed a game we have missed him and you can see we don't function swell as a whole team

Joeyk

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 17:52:07
Hi ed, if pacheco is not doing it in training, why does kk put him on the bench if he has no intension of playing him, he must be better than ngog, to be honest anyone has to be, {Ed001's Note - you would have to ask Dalglish that not me.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 16:27:56
Just a bit of common sense why not off load Ngog cus he just doesn't have it to be a big club striker. . Replace him with D. Sturridge. He can score goals and is english plus young which is similar age as Ngog. Is there any intrest in him mr ed? How much you think he would cost? Really think he could be a very good addition to the new attack force. Kk type of player too! {Ed001's Note - I doubt there is any interest considering we refused to consider him in any kind of part-ex with Torres.}

He could fit in well don't you think ?. Got talent and realistic target too . {ed's note - a big time attitude without the big time talent to match.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 16:36:07
Left sided players Arda Turan, Ibrahim affelay. We should forget Hazard he is nor interested in a move to our club. I am more concerned with the left back position and strongly believe that we should do everything possible in signing Coentrao. I think he is in a class of his own in that position. Kelly on the right back and coentrao on the left back we will have a very attacking back line to provide the strikers the crosses needed to score and bring back the good old days.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 16:22:40
ED, Yann M'Vila {Ed001's Note - ?}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 16:22:43
Hi Ed, what do you think Kenny sees in Ngog? Surely Pacheco, Ecclestone, Amoo and co. deserve a chance now. Ngog has been rubbish for ages.

I know you love Kenny and we all do. But let's not do the 'in rafa we trust' nonsense again. Questioning things is healthy. {Ed001's Note - you mean those that aren't out on loan? Pacheco has failed to work hard enough in training, others have no experience and are not ready to lead the line on their own. At least Ngog should have been able to use his experience, yes he failed but on paper it seemed the right choice.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 16:22:47
25 Feb 2011 16:06:32
"My team with everyone fit:

Reina

Kelly Carragher Agger
Johnson Aurellio

Gerrard Miereles

Kuyt Carrrol Suarez

Subs: Jones, Skrtel, Cole, Wilson, Sterling, Pacheco, Shelvey
Res: Coady, Suso, Soto, Spearing,
Useless: Maxi, Poulson, Lucas, Ngog

But suddenly we're showing a little bit of depth. Thoughts ed or anyone?"

Pretty good actually. The formation works, especially as kelly is better than Johnson defensively, so we can benefit from using both of them.

Though, I reckon one holding midfielder would work better than 3 up front. To play behind Gerrard and Merieles who can drift wide if need be to compliment the overlapping full backs.

Bench looks pretty weak though. Hopefully we can bring in some wingers and a better LB in the summer.

Our problem seems to be in midfield. The only connection between defence and attack is to hoof it up there at the moment. There is a hole in our midfield. You look at Arsenal, they can link the ball from defence to midfield to attack in the blink of an eye. We can't do that because our midfield gives it away too cheaply before we can muster an attack.

A more constructive holding midfielder would do the trick. I don't feel, despite his progress, Lucas can do this.

So I do like this formation but maybe tweak it to.

Reina

Kelly Carra Agger

Johnson Aurelio/ or other LWB

insert holding midfielder
Gerrard Mereiles

Carroll Suarez

bench:
Jones, Skrtel, Cole, Wilson, Spearing, Kuyt

or what have you.
oh, and don't forget to take out the trash this summer, too many crap players.

Still, nice one :D

Yeah, got to agree with you, I certainly think we could do with a holding midfield player, and then yes it would be Kuyt that would go, so for me certainly a postion for summer, because I don't agree with ed and I think Lucas is rubbish (take last night for example)

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 16:18:26
Ed agree with you an can't understand why so called fans talk so much cack Riise was never good enough for lfc he done a job for us but never good enough an I remember a certain game against chavski were he just gave up we need new young players oh an alonso will never come because real won't sell. . . . . . .
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Wow. Guess you would rather have Insua, Aurelio, Konchesky and co. I'll take Riise anyday. He was class during his time here.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 16:19:47
Just a bit of common sense why not off load Ngog cus he just doesn't have it to be a big club striker. . Replace him with D. Sturridge. He can score goals and is english plus young which is similar age as Ngog. Is there any intrest in him mr ed? How much you think he would cost? Really think he could be a very good addition to the new attack force. Kk type of player too ! {Ed001's Note - I doubt there is any interest considering we refused to consider him in any kind of part-ex with Torres.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 16:09:53
Don't think Liverpool are good enough going forward with kuyt and ngog as our leading line, rest of the pitch we looked solid last night, so with gerrard Suarez and Carroll in, kuyt to be used as an impact player maybe. .to help us see out a game, things will be looking up for the end of the season andvthe start of next. Think Liverpool have better youth prospects than ngog. . Eccleston, and ngoo therefore am sure he will be moved on in the summe.

Joey k

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 16:06:32
"My team with everyone fit:

Reina

Kelly Carragher Agger
Johnson Aurellio

Gerrard Miereles

Kuyt Carrrol Suarez

Subs: Jones, Skrtel, Cole, Wilson, Sterling, Pacheco, Shelvey
Res: Coady, Suso, Soto, Spearing,
Useless: Maxi, Poulson, Lucas, Ngog

But suddenly we're showing a little bit of depth. Thoughts ed or anyone?"

Pretty good actually. The formation works, especially as kelly is better than Johnson defensively, so we can benefit from using both of them.

Though, I reckon one holding midfielder would work better than 3 up front. To play behind Gerrard and Merieles who can drift wide if need be to compliment the overlapping full backs.

Bench looks pretty weak though. Hopefully we can bring in some wingers and a better LB in the summer.

Our problem seems to be in midfield. The only connection between defence and attack is to hoof it up there at the moment. There is a hole in our midfield. You look at Arsenal, they can link the ball from defence to midfield to attack in the blink of an eye. We can't do that because our midfield gives it away too cheaply before we can muster an attack.

A more constructive holding midfielder would do the trick. I don't feel, despite his progress, Lucas can do this.

So I do like this formation but maybe tweak it to.

Reina

Kelly Carra Agger

Johnson Aurelio/ or other LWB

insert holding midfielder
Gerrard Mereiles

Carroll Suarez

bench:
Jones, Skrtel, Cole, Wilson, Spearing, Kuyt

or what have you.
oh, and don't forget to take out the trash this summer, too many crap players.

Still, nice one :D

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 15:59:05
What are the chances of signing:
These seem to be the most likely to me.
Enrique
Adam
Young
Merveaux

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 15:46:40
My team with everyone fit:

Reina

Kelly Carragher Agger
Johnson Aurellio

Gerrard Miereles

Kuyt Carrrol Suarez

Subs: Jones, Skrtel, Cole, Wilson, Sterling, Pacheco, Shelvey
Res: Coady, Suso, Soto, Spearing,
Useless: Maxi, Poulson, Lucas, Ngog

But suddenly we're showing a little bit of depth. Thoughts ed or anyone?

Chickey {Ed001's Note - I don't see much depth in our squad, the likes of Jones, Skrtel, Soto and Cole should be way ahead of Lucas in the useless stakes.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 15:31:32
"What the hell is a side back? ?"

Um.
My guess is probably an Americanism for a left/ right back.

That's on the side. and at the back, right?

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 15:35:22
Steve Parker = Legend.

"and why don't we swap Joe Cole for a toasted ciabatta with pickle"

Best line ever on this forum.

Hilarious, and completely true. Hats off to you mate.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 15:37:33
I think its about time we had a vote on Lucas.
If you think he's a good player click unbelievable and if yo think he's a bad plyer click believable.

I for one think he's an awful player, who would struggle to get in most premiership teams, and we urgently need to get rid of him

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 15:19:35
. . aside from The Madness of King Roy XXXII . .

. . you have to ask why so many posters are questioning how good Lucas is; how poor Ngog is; why is Maxi 'pants? How bad is Lucas these days? Why don't we buy Turan? What about swapping Poulsen for Hazard? Who the hell is Mavingo? Why will don't we dump Pacheco? This is the team I want (cue endless lists of hopefuls and dream players) and why don't we swap Joe Cole for a toasted ciabatta with pickle and that nice Purdey's they used to sell in the gold bottle, but now you can only get for £1.30 in London in the silver bottle?

If only football management was this simple.
It IS easier to be a pundit - ask David Ploot (sorry Pleat) or Alan Hansen - "utterly amazing question, the words of a genius Steve!" Being a pundit is a doddle, but it is hard to be a manager.

KK is in a very special position that very few managers will ever get to. Maybe Sir Axel Forgeson will be in that bracket and maybe Obscene Whinger will get there, but very few. That means that people like KK can make decisions that even the most cynical and distrusting will go along with. So we accept his choice of Johnson at left back; we go with Lucas in midfield and we understand his last chances for Cole and Ngog.

Your comments baout these players won't affect KK or DC. They won't sway their views. You are behind the team, you love KK and you want him to succeed. Maybe then, just maybe, you will stop the endless fascination with lists of wishes and dreams. It isn't an order, it's not even a request. I suspect it's more to do with my preference for living in the 'real world' and knowing that what happens is out of my hands.

Then again . . can I just ask why we haven't signed Ronaldo and Kaka? Why can't we wear green instead of that awful red colour that Manure wear? What's wrong with having Colonel GaddaffiDuck's son as our new investor and why is Pope Gregory XII not on our badge?

What do I know!

Steve Parker

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 15:06:09
The updates for FIFA 11 are done and a load of youngsters r in in suso robo n all well chuffd lol

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No coady or Sterling though -Mc

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 14:51:55
25 Feb 2011 13:37:29

"Reina

Kjaer agger wilson

Kelly mavinga

Gerrard meireles


Suarez. Kuyt

Carroll

Subs.

Jones

Aurelio

Shelvey

Suso

Sterling

Lucas

Wickham/ lukaku"


To this idiot:

Where the dickens is Carragher!?

And who the heck is Kjaer/ Suso/ Mavinga!?


get your stats straight lad. . . . . . .yeah well carra won't make it much longer kjaer is a fellow highly rated centreback and suso and mavinga are youth players in reserves with alot of talent my stats are fine

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 14:47:53
After watching Lucas on YouTube playing for Gremio.


This would be my team.


Reina

Kelly Carragher Agger Johnson

Meireles Gerrard Cole

Kuyt Suarez Lucas


Subs: Skrtel, Jovanovic, Ngog, Aurelio(when fit), Spearing.
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Lucas playing up top are you having a laugh.
The guy can't hit a barn door, and he has as much vision for setting up an attack as my 9month old daughter.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 14:51:14
To the out and out muppet who wrote'who the heck is suso/ mivinga' are u for real? ? maybe ur a manc

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 14:36:01
To the guy who wrote the LONG numbered list:

I would have to say that i strongly disagree with almost very point you made. Amazing.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 14:30:16
Well, watched the game last night and my opinion still hasn't changed about Lucas. We were poor up front last night, had no creativity in the middle, looked shakey at the back and even Reina gave me a fright when he missed the punch from the corner.

I thought Kuyt came into the game the last 20 mins. Got a good header too, i got the feeling that he was playing for a new contract and with that goal he just may of sealed it!

N'gog, N'gog, N'gog. What was he doing taking the ball of poor Joe Cole's foot if it was me i would of personally killed him. He will have to be sold in the summer, we would be lucky to get anything over a mill for him. Fair balls to Kyrgiakos for getting stuck in last night. Joe Cole will have to take some pointers from him when he bottled that chance in the 1st half with the keeper.

If we do win this competition we will scrape through the rounds, Carroll will defo give us a boost along with Gerrard but if we lose either one to injury we are just a plain ordinary side. Tough match against Braga in the next round especially over there, they beat Arsenal at home earlier on in the season.

For the weekend match against the Hammers i would rest Gerrard and keep him fit for the scum next week. Hopefully Carroll will be available for that match too. And hopefully whoever refs the game is not on United's books

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 14:28:30
Hats off to Spearing. He followed up on his performance against Everton with a very impressive 35 minute spell last night. He excelled in a more offensive role and he hardly gave the ball away. KK may just have found an extra option for his squad and best of all he is a product of our youth team. Spearing must be buzzing at the opportunity being given to him by KK. I hope he keeps proving wrong those (myself included) who have doubted him. Unfortunately I cannot say the same about Ngog who has had ample opportunity to show us that he is capable but has not lived up to it. I would like to see Jovanovic given an opportunity in his place. have some concerns about Agger's long term future. Whilst he is undoubtedly talented, he seems to be incapable of keeping himself fit for a reasonable length of time. It was positive to see Joe Cole last night despite being short of match fitness, he gave 100%. Kuyt was immense and fully deserved his goal. In spite of the dramas of this season we are still in the hunt for a trophy. You could see what it meant to Stevie G when we scored. I cannot wait to see Carroll and Suarez play together. Not too far off now. Really looking forward to the last third of the season. Reality Red

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 14:08:26
Kyrgiakos, Poulsen, Ngog, Pacheco, Aurelio, Konchesky, Jovanovic, Cole, Maxi possibly, Insua, El Zhar, Degen all need to head out of the door come June 2011.

That's twelve players. The majority of them are what we would call squad players. Some of these players could be replaced by youth being promoted, however that wouldn't necessarily improve our overall squad quality.

What you lose with some of the players, you gain with new players but equally there are plusses and minuses both ways.

You aint going to get a lot for the likes of Phillip Degen for instance, if i were chipping in to his leaving collection, i think i'd pull a button off my cardy and drop it in the envelope for example.

I think a mixture is needed. Players like Kuyt, possibly Maxi, Skrtel, Carragher should become squad players, linking up with the young up and coming players like Mavinga, Ayala, Wilson, Shelvey, Coady.

The replacements should be straightforward first team strength material. A left back, left sided midfielder, a striker, right sided midfielder, centre back.

If money is an issue i.e. the amount the club can justifiably spend then the priority should go on the left and right hand side midfielders, centre back, striker and left back.

I feel with Kelly playing very well down the right hand side, and looked better last night for the rest that he had and Glen Johnson looking far more solid at LB than at RB, perhaps the need for a LB, especially if we go down the route of 3 CB's isn't so great.

The striker situation with Carroll and Suarez fit isn't as urgent either but we saw last night that if either or both are injured we're back to calling on the Ngog's of the squad.

So we're down to the left/ right sided midfielder and a centre half to partner Agger with Carra and Skrtel covering every other game for Agger's next injury to crop up.

Press the squad depth from below and above and that will answer the failings for next season.

Personally if i had a stupid no limit criteria, i'd buy Bastos from Lyon, Hulk from Porto, Milner, Young, Richards (plonk him RB and switch Kelly to CB) with possibly Fernando Torres Llorente.

But Bastos would be crazy money for a player the wrong side of 27. Hmmm back to my football manager game then!

PS Thanks to JJ for his reply last night and i've calmed down now as well.

Bob the Red

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:47:18
To the idiot that wrote this.
1) Baines plays for Everton, they would never sell to us. I'll admit he is a good player, but there is no chance.
2) Who the hell is Bastos? And why would you want to get rid of Jovanovic and Lucas? Lucas has been outstanding in fairness to the lad, and it would be unfair to chuck out Jovanovic when he hasn't had much of a chance, and hasn't done too bad for himself.
3) Never heard of M'Vilia either.
4) Jones? Well that could be anybody couldn't it?
5) Benzema isn't a bad shout and neither is Turan. Though, Turan might cost a bit more than that. Prefer English players though.
6) Richards is over-rated. We'd be conned for paying £10m.
7) get rid of Skrtel? Are you mad? For as little as 9m? If you think Baines is worth £15, then so is skrtel. Skrtel is a brilliant player, and I think you are mad to want to sell him.
8) Insua. . Well, I don't have an opinion one way or another on him. Haven't seen enough of him to judge, so I'd prefer not to sell him, but if it's in his interest to go, then so be it. £4m sound cheap though.
9) yeah agreed, Poulsen and Ngog have to go for me. Poulsen just gives the ball away all the time, and Ngog is pure useless. Though, I'd like to see you try and flog him off for £3m.
10) Sell Cole? Again, stupid move. Cole is a naturally skilled player, and when injury free, he is a quality player. Selling him would be pointless when he clearly wants to stay and he is just getting match fit now. More to the point, £8m? You need to re-think that fee.
11) Johnson. Well, if we were to sell him at least get the £18m back that we bought him for, eh? but why would you want to sell him? We're not short on money now. Though, I perceive Kelly as a better player than him already, so if he leaves, then I'm not heartbroken. Kelly is equal in attack and better in defence, which is the primary attribute for a defender surely. .
12) Kuyt, £9m? What drugs are you on, lad? Did you not watch the sparta game? Aside from carra and stevie, Kuyt is out most influential player. He has the stamina of a horse for crying out loud! £9m would be a rip off. He is worth £15 minimum.

What I want to see in the summer:
out.
Poulsen - not needed since we have Spearing coming up. - sell for £2-4m.
Ngog - give to any desperate takers, the lad isn't cut out for lfc.
Aquilani - after returning from Juve, hold out for at least £10m, if not £12m since we bought him for what, £15 was it?
(could look at shipping out Maxi. Has too many inconsistent matches, not fast enough on the wings.)
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Are you for real?

1) You clearly don't check up here regularly/ or even check up on football much at all as you don't seem to know who Michel Bastos and Yann M'Villa are?
2) Jovanovic doesn't play coz he simply isn't good enough. The management isn't stupid, if Jova was better than N'gog, he would play in front of him, but he doesn't.
3) Phil Jones, Blackburn
4) Skrtel (and the Greek) are meatheads, they're pretty much all brawn and prone to mistakes, not consistent enough.
5) Insua is overweight and lacks the physical fitness required for regular first team football, though I think he is an alright player.
6) Cole is too injury prone. If he wasn't, and thus featured regularly, he would be one of our best players. As it is, we are paying a player who is injured for 3/ 5 games.
7) Though I don't think Kuyt should be sold, £9m is a fair price considering his age and the fact that he isn't the most amazing of players. Having said that his workrate is second to none.

Aquilani must not leave for less than what we got him for, if that means no quick sale, so be it.

{Ed002's Note - You are kidding right? There is no way Liverpool will get €20M for Aquilani.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:48:39
Apparently during David Cameron's tour of Middle Eastern countries during the past week, the subject of the English Premier League was a constant subject in conversations with Kings, Sheikhs and businessman. Of course only 2 clubs received most interest in informal talks - Liverpool and Utd.
I wonder whether any investment in Liverpool could happen? Not in terms of change of ownership, but perhaps some sort of commercial links. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool have American owners, many countries in the middle east will not come running offering sponsorship money to an American owned business.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:55:04
TO this guy. .

1) Baines plays for Everton, they would never sell to us. I'll admit he is a good player, but there is no chance.
2) Who the hell is Bastos? And why would you want to get rid of Jovanovic and Lucas? Lucas has been outstanding in fairness to the lad, and it would be unfair to chuck out Jovanovic when he hasn't had much of a chance, and hasn't done too bad for himself.
3) Never heard of M'Vilia either.
4) Jones? Well that could be anybody couldn't it?
5) Benzema isn't a bad shout and neither is Turan. Though, Turan might cost a bit more than that. Prefer English players though.
6) Richards is over-rated. We'd be conned for paying £10m.
7) get rid of Skrtel? Are you mad? For as little as 9m? If you think Baines is worth £15, then so is skrtel. Skrtel is a brilliant player, and I think you are mad to want to sell him.
8) Insua. . Well, I don't have an opinion one way or another on him. Haven't seen enough of him to judge, so I'd prefer not to sell him, but if it's in his interest to go, then so be it. £4m sound cheap though.
9) yeah agreed, Poulsen and Ngog have to go for me. Poulsen just gives the ball away all the time, and Ngog is pure useless. Though, I'd like to see you try and flog him off for £3m.
10) Sell Cole? Again, stupid move. Cole is a naturally skilled player, and when injury free, he is a quality player. Selling him would be pointless when he clearly wants to stay and he is just getting match fit now. More to the point, £8m? You need to re-think that fee.
11) Johnson. Well, if we were to sell him at least get the £18m back that we bought him for, eh? but why would you want to sell him? We're not short on money now. Though, I perceive Kelly as a better player than him already, so if he leaves, then I'm not heartbroken. Kelly is equal in attack and better in defence, which is the primary attribute for a defender surely. .
12) Kuyt, £9m? What drugs are you on, lad? Did you not watch the sparta game? Aside from carra and stevie, Kuyt is out most influential player. He has the stamina of a horse for crying out loud! £9m would be a rip off. He is worth £15 minimum.
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YOU call someone stupid yet you have never heard of M'villa or Bastos? How hard is it to use Google seeing as your football knowledge is so minimal? It just makes the entire rest of your post not worth reading.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:55:29
Hi guys,

Heard a couple of rumours today from an ex youth player.
Pacheco to join Nottingham Forest and not Norwich on loan until end of season!
Gerrard, Kelly and Johnson will start on Sunday and Carroll will be on the bench but Agger is def out!
Also Ngog was told last night that he had to prove himself worthy of remaining at Liverpool. Don't be surprised if he is loaned out(if Carroll can prove his fitness) very shortly to Swansea!
Taiwo has not signed a pre contract agreement yet but discussions are taking place along with M'Vila

The source is very reliable

Paulmondo

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:58:06
To the person who said who is bastos and m villa. How can we take you serious if you obviously don't pay attention to football there both good players alot better than most at the club now. Bastos plays for Lyon and Brazil And Jones i think he meant the young player at blackburn supposed to be good prospect don't think we need him tho got a few players in that position coming through the ranks.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 14:02:34
Here is just a quick Note and food for thought

Injured Players:
Kelly
Aurelio
Gerrard
Agger
Carroll
Shelvey
Johnson

When people put on here their starting line up and say statements like this team can beat anyone the fact is that we never have what would be a first choice team available - like most teams in the PL we suffer from lack of depth and quality.

The solution I have no idea - rafa tried and squad got too big and the quality was missing.

But im very interested in how NESV are going over the next few seasons to sort this issue out without spend zillions.

YNWA

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:39:02
To the idiot that wrote this.

1) Baines plays for Everton, they would never sell to us. I'll admit he is a good player, but there is no chance.

2) Who the hell is Bastos? And why would you want to get rid of Jovanovic and Lucas? Lucas has been outstanding in fairness to the lad, and it would be unfair to chuck out Jovanovic when he hasn't had much of a chance, and hasn't done too bad for himself.

3) Never heard of M'Vilia either.

4) Jones? Well that could be anybody couldn't it?

5) Benzema isn't a bad shout and neither is Turan. Though, Turan might cost a bit more than that. Prefer English players though.

6) Richards is over-rated. We'd be conned for paying £10m.

7) get rid of Skrtel? Are you mad? For as little as 9m? If you think Baines is worth £15, then so is skrtel. Skrtel is a brilliant player, and I think you are mad to want to sell him.

8) Insua. . Well, I don't have an opinion one way or another on him. Haven't seen enough of him to judge, so I'd prefer not to sell him, but if it's in his interest to go, then so be it. £4m sound cheap though.

9) yeah agreed, Poulsen and Ngog have to go for me. Poulsen just gives the ball away all the time, and Ngog is pure useless. Though, I'd like to see you try and flog him off for £3m.

10) Sell Cole? Again, stupid move. Cole is a naturally skilled player, and when injury free, he is a quality player. Selling him would be pointless when he clearly wants to stay and he is just getting match fit now. More to the point, £8m? You need to re-think that fee.

11) Johnson. Well, if we were to sell him at least get the £18m back that we bought him for, eh? but why would you want to sell him? We're not short on money now. Though, I perceive Kelly as a better player than him already, so if he leaves, then I'm not heartbroken. Kelly is equal in attack and better in defence, which is the primary attribute for a defender surely. .

12) Kuyt, £9m? What drugs are you on, lad? Did you not watch the sparta game? Aside from carra and stevie, Kuyt is out most influential player. He has the stamina of a horse for crying out loud! £9m would be a rip off. He is worth £15 minimum.
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Are you serious?
Skrtel is crap, the guys a liability. To many to times caught out of position.
Cole when we bought him I was happy but hes not as good as he was. The guys been injured near on 2 years and I fear at his age will he get back to how he was, or even near to how he was. I can't see him doing it.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:43:50
After watching Lucas on YouTube playing for Gremio.

This would be my team.

Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Johnson
Meireles Gerrard Cole
Kuyt Suarez Lucas

Subs: Skrtel, Jovanovic, Ngog, Aurelio(when fit), Spearing.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:44:02
The updates for FIFA 11 are done and a load of youngsters r in in suso robo n all well chuffd lol

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:33:51
My views on a few players:
Lucas may try hard, play reasonalby well and have "the best completed pass percentage" or whatever, but he is nothing special at all and can/ should be replaced by better quality players in summer. Players like Banega, Martinez and M'Vila all have something about them whether it's a fantastic passing range or great physical stregth, they certainly add more than Lucas.
I also feel that kuyt should not play in the starting 11 but come on as an impact substitute when we are in need of a goal, as that seems to be the only thing he is capable of doing, scoring late goals against poor teams (sparta, trabsonsbor).
Poulsen should not play again for us, he possesses no quality and can olny put in the odd good tackle and final ball.
Ngog is also not fit to start, he is lightweight but not speedy, he is tall but has no aerial presence, he is a striker but scores barley any goals, so why play him?
Maxi looked to have turned a corner, when he bagged a few goals, but has now just gone back to be being unoticable, adding nothing to our attacking moves.
In the summer it is clear that we need width (RW and LW), backup striking options as our backups atm are simply not good enough, a QUALITY (not enrique) natural left back , and a creative central midfielder, whether he's an attack minded one (honda), defensive (Banega) or box to box (Adam).

E.H LFC

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:15:04
What! He is way better than the likes of carrick, fletcher, ramires denilson and huddlestone.

Ha ha this made me laugh some people seriously. You actually can't be serious when you think Lucas is better than fletcher. Im not a man u fan before you start Im a pool fan. Ill agree he has improved this season but he hasnt improved that much he still isn't good enough. Anyone can pass the ball two yards to the player next to them. I didn't know it was a good thing to give away free kicks outside your area. He is a squad player who is playing because alonso and masch werent replaced. He wouldn't get into any of the top teams starting line up.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:12:19
Sparta Prague what a s**t side just went out to injury people Agger, Kelly. Another thing is we will be good at corners if we have Carroll, Agger, Kyriagos and Skrtel all going to charge into the box making people s**t themselves

Yeah what a great idea, let's have 3 central defenders in the opponents box. f*** defending, we'll use Kenny's steely gaze to deter erroneous attacks.

YNWA

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:04:17
Ha ha, never realised REPKA played for west ham, boy oh boy did you see him gesturing to us in the kop last night! the lads got nerve! mind you hes older than me lol
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I thought it was brilliant , he lost it. . that is the power of the 12th man

L1

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:02:14
I swear I must watch a different Lucas, the guy is s**t, full stop. Etc.
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I'm sorry but your post is pants. You are obviously one of the blind player haters that mar out support. Of course he gives away occasional free kicks, that's what DMs have to do. He had done really well to replace the small sulking Argentinian and he allows Gerrard and Mireiles to get on with creating forwards. Playing both Lucas and Poulsen didn't work last night but that wasn't Lucas' fault. It really is time for the haters to find another hobby horse to hose their bile over.
On another note, htf did their number 9 stay on the pitch last night? Did he wander in off the cage fighting channel by some bizarre accident?
Newtydreads
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I agree the Poulsen and Lucas partnership did not work last night, but I suppose we did not have too many options and at times the team looked unbalanced, but considering the injuries and an under par performance we got the result.
It was not everyone's dream team playing on the pitch last night but 3 months ago we would not of won that game.

L1

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 13:01:08
I really like the look of wilson! Looks strong tackles well very confident on the ball good lad !

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:53:12
ha ha, never realised REPKA played for west ham, boy oh boy did you see him gesturing to us in the kop last night! the lads got nerve! mind you hes older than me lol

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:50:16
Ed, do you think suso will be given a run out soon, cos watching him he does seem like a quality player. i think it would benefit the squad if he is either on the bench or starting. same with sterling etc.

any thoughts?

{Ed002's Note - He may get a run out from the bench before the end of teh season - but he is still very, very young.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:38:17
Just a comment on Sunday's final. I believe the winners go into the Europa Cup so if Birmingham win they take one of the three spaces. This means we would need to be at least 6th. If Arsenal win then as they are likely to be top 4 then 7th gets in. If Birmingham win on Sunday and someone like Stoke or the bitters were to win the FA Cup then we would need to be 5th.

{Ed002's Note - The fate of 7th is not known until the FA Cup final. If a club who has already qualified wins it, then the additional place becomes available. If Birmingham win on Sunday and Everton win the FA Cup, then only 5th will do.}

I think this is correct and regret the negative attitude. If we are not in any European comp then this will surely impact our transfer attraction. {Ed002's Note -

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:38:59
I swear I must watch a different Lucas, the guy is s**t, full stop. Etc.
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I'm sorry but your post is pants. You are obviously one of the blind player haters that mar out support. Of course he gives away occasional free kicks, that's what DMs have to do. He had done really well to replace the small sulking Argentinian and he allows Gerrard and Mireiles to get on with creating forwards. Playing both Lucas and Poulsen didn't work last night but that wasn't Lucas' fault. It really is time for the haters to find another hobby horse to hose their bile over.
On another note, htf did their number 9 stay on the pitch last night? Did he wander in off the cage fighting channel by some bizarre accident?
Newtydreads

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:40:15
Aqua situation. . If they can't afford him I absurd we could go fishing
In their team and do player + cash deal. They will have to pay I think about £12 mil for Aqua, so it could be some good business. Eds I assume you would think this would be a reasonable solution as LFC will not drop valuation and go back on the deal put in place?

Besides, we can call Aqua back in summer and sell him to another Italian club who will pay £12mil right?

Bazzaa {ed's note - I don't think they have anyone we would want.}

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just a suggestion but what about Diego, im not so sure as to how well he has performed at Juventus but he was briliant at Werder Bremen.

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what about the young lad Sebastien Giovinco ed? seems like a class player to me, hes on loan at Parma i think. Would we be able to do some kind of swap deal for him?

{Ed002's Note - I don't think any sort of player exchange will happen.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:32:50
I hope lucas, poulsen and ngog go in the summer. People say lucas is good but then he is the most usless thing. {Ed002's Note - I think that there is a fair chance of Ngog leaving. Poulsen seems certain to move on. I am doubtful about Lucas leaving.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:33:04
Aqua situation. . If they can't afford him I absurd we could go fishing
In their team and do player + cash deal. They will have to pay I think about £12 mil for Aqua, so it could be some good business. Eds I assume you would think this would be a reasonable solution as LFC will not drop valuation and go back on the deal put in place?

Besides, we can call Aqua back in summer and sell him to another Italian club who will pay £12mil right?

Bazzaa {ed's note - I don't think they have anyone we would want.}

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just a suggestion but what about Diego, im not so sure as to how well he has performed at Juventus but he was briliant at Werder Bremen.

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Diego is at VFL Wolfsburg since Summer 2010. . {Ed002's Note - Juventus are simply trying to get a better deal as they have a viable alternative in Pirlo on a free transfer.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:36:34
Dundee. .Meijer. . Voronin. . and now Ngog all in the same bracket. . .not good enough by far! !

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Add morientes to that list

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:18:17
Aqua situation. . If they can't afford him I absurd we could go fishing
In their team and do player + cash deal. They will have to pay I think about £12 mil for Aqua, so it could be some good business. Eds I assume you would think this would be a reasonable solution as LFC will not drop valuation and go back on the deal put in place?

Besides, we can call Aqua back in summer and sell him to another Italian club who will pay £12mil right?

Bazzaa {ed's note - I don't think they have anyone we would want.}

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just a suggestion but what about Diego, im not so sure as to how well he has performed at Juventus but he was briliant at Werder Bremen.

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I think Diego is a quality player and would love to see him at Liverpool, he would do a great job for us. A straight swap would be good business. I think he may even be on loan back in Germany, so i think they would sell him.

WB

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:10:07
Ed I want your opinion on this . . Do you think that another striker is really needed? I know we've got carroll and suarez now but why nit just spend the money elsewhere and use Nathan ecclestone as backup? Probly as good as sturridge who we are linked with? Also got pacheco who is half decent! Should ge rid of ngog tho he was woeful last night! Would like your thoughts on this situation. .

Nathan

{Editor's Note: Pacheco will likely leave in the summer and the third choice is Kuyt. If Jovanovic and Ngog go then someone will be bought in. Sturridge would be a decent option but I doubt that he would be interested as he would still be in the same position as he is at Chelsea.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 12:11:53
Jose enrique
Hi, not a rumour but some interesting info, I met up last night with a good friend of mine who is Newcastle season ticket holder, being a red I asked about Enrique and what he was like. The repsonse shocked me, he said this lad is better than evra, quick and strong and would be worth 25 million if he had a long term contract! amazing player
any thoughts on him please?

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 11:56:45
Not looking good fellow red's , Says on the BBC that Agger , Kelly + Johnson are all doubts to play against west ham on sunday. :/ . .Lets hope there available

LFCmatty

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 11:55:24
Reina
Kjaer agger wilson
Kelly mavinga
Gerrard meireles

Suarez. Kuyt
Carroll
Subs.
Jones
Aurelio
Shelvey
Suso
Sterling
Lucas
Wickham/ lukaku

Ed what u think? Realistic 2011/ 2012 season team?

{Editor's Note: I am sorry but I never comment on teams - but don't expect Lukaku.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 11:49:29
Reflection on last nights game, we played well, all be it not great, but we won. Could have been 2 or 3-0 had we taken our chances, one of them being Ngog nicking Cole's shot of him!

I do believe a lot of the players we are seeing in these games are in the shop window so to speak. Players who probably won't be LFC players here in the summer?

Poulsen
Ngog
Poss Cole
Soto

Come the latter stages we'll possibly see a more stronger side out on the pitch. As for all the Lucas haters, i don't understand? OK he's Brazilian but he's never going to be Pele! Like another poster said "How many Brazil players have made it in the prem? So get off the guys back, he puts in more effort than two other names i could mention who played last night!

We are on an unbeaten run of 8 games, plus 7 clean sheets, another last night. We beat the hammers Sunday that's another 3 points closer to fourth. Spurs are already showing the strain of maintaining 4Th spot against Blackpool. And now we are breathing down their necks as are Chelsea who i think have had their 15Min's in the spotlight and are starting to show it. If we won all our remaining games (a big if) things could turn out a lot better come the summer in relation to signings etc.

There are still some big games to play between the top 5 so anything can change. I am sure we will see some surprises in the summer transfer window like we saw in this one!

I am also confident we can win the Europa league cup to round off our very poor season, for which hopefully we'll never see the likes of again!
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agreed with you right up to the last paragraph! i think we had a poor start to the season but we are looking at a very strong finish to the season! if you look at the situation we were in before Christmas it has been a big improvement since KING KENNY came back! besides that it is an improvement on last season where we finished 7th! i do agree though that we can win the Europa but only if we play well as a team and continue our fantastic run of form! if Carroll can play well for us i think we could beat anybody !

KING KENNY-YNWA

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 11:47:33
Ed , did man citeh reject a £20m bid of us for richards?

{Editor's Note: I cannot say with any confidence that they did.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 11:33:13
(sorry Arsenal fans! I meant thoroughly illegal, vicious and spiteful taking away of the ball from your glorious YOUNG technicians!)

steve parker u r a legend mate!
Luv reading your stff. u shud have a website all of your own mate.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 11:06:28
Sparta Prague what a s**t side just went out to injury people Agger, Kelly. Another thing is we will be good at corners if we have Carroll, Agger, Kyriagos and Skrtel all going to charge into the box making people s**t themselves

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 11:08:28
{ed's note - I am sure they would be welcomed by the players and fans, but highly unlikely. Riise is over the hill and was never really good enough and Alonso is first name on the team sheet for Real Madrid.}

Actually I think Ronaldo and Casillas are on the team sheet before Alonso.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 11:04:10
Hi ed, i really hope chavski don't win the cl, simply because if and a big if we happen to finish 4th and chavski finish 5th but win the cl, we would be bolloxed wouldn't we?

{Editor's Note: Realistically Chelsea will likely be in the top 4 so it won't matter. But your point is correct.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:55:23
Can anyone name a worse liverpool forward in the last 20 years than ngog?

Sean Dundee? Erik Meijer?

Harry J

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VORONIN!

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Dundee. .Meijer. . Voronin. . and now Ngog all in the same bracket. . .not good enough by far! !

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:57:16
I thought Spearing was very good when he came on. Short sharp passing and in there half of the pitch.
Good runs, good positioning, attacking mind and better and cheaper than Poulson

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:54:43
{ed's note - I don't think they have anyone we would want.}

Wouldn't mind Chiellini.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:49:25
25 Feb 2011 08:31:36
24 Feb 2011 22:22:39
Can anyone name a worse liverpool forward in the last 20 years than ngog?

Sean Dundee? Erik Meijer?

Harry J

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VORONIN!

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:50:52
Just a quick reflection on last nights game. .

Poulsen is one of the worst players i have ever watched/ seen in a red shirt offers nothing to the side. .

I thought Spearing when he came on changed the game, are midfield seemed to get more on top in the game, and we created more chances then. does anyone agree.

I would have him a defo starter at the weekend. . just hope agger is ok but he was limping for 5 mins while the greek was off. showed true grit and fight to stay on till the greek was back. .

All in all, another result grinded out, and we are still unbeaten in 8 games. lets keep this run going now and see where we end up.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:47:06
"The Madness of King Roy XXXII"

Christian Poulsen?
Now . . let's consider his worth and ask what Jonjo Shelvey would have brought to the party (careful Steve, cliche patrols are everywhere!) against Sparta Prague.

We deride both Poulsen and to some extent, Lucas, over their performances. Yet they have proved to be solid, very unspectacular in Poulsen's case, until last night. I feel sorry for Poulsen; he came into a side that was struggling and he is a prime example of a man riddled with self-doubt and lacking real confidence. His hesitancy in delivering a final ball on the edge of the box last night summed that up nicely. In many ways, it is the same indecision that plagues David Ngog. Herein lies another issue . .

As fans we rail against poor signings - yet the reality is that Poulsen is an accomplished 'breaker up' of attacking forays and little more. His tackling is average; he can slide in for a nice tackle (sorry Arsenal fans! I meant thoroughly illegal, vicious and spiteful taking away of the ball from your glorious YOUNG technicians!) and then seems to back off when a hard challenge is needed. He is no Macherano, but he could have done a job for us. Trouble is now, he is lost at sea and looks a poor player. I suspect if he moves back to Denmark or Italy, he will once again prove to be a solid midfielder in a succesful side.

My rage against the pundits continues, but thank God (not that I believe in him - it's just a cliched phrase) for Graham Taylor. He seems to have adopted a more general overview of the game that does fit in nicely with the commentary. Not for him the acute and highly technical dissection of the game like David Pleat - "They need to score a goal to win this game Jim, " or Alan Hansen's incisive, "That was utterly sensational the way he looked over his shoulder and brushed his hair back!" Taylor offers a more interesting view of the inner workings of teams - "in the dressing room they will be waiting for the manager and may already have their own ideas they want to put forward." Not as technical as Pleat's banalities or Hansen's ludicrous hyperbole, but far more acceptable.

While finishing rounding and savaging the dilettantes of Arsenal, I was intrigued by the comments this morning suggesting that Fabregas's personal trainer said he was fine to play, but that Wenger refused. So players also have personal trainers that also interfere with the management decisions? Not sure that would go down well with LFC management! Before I am finally accused of spite and venom, on Arsenal's Sunday game, can I just say that I would like Birmingham to win, but more importantly get stuck very, very physically into Arsenal's precious cargo. Wenger's bleatings will be of more interest than the game I suspect. I can only smirk with real amusement at the thought of them coming up against Tomas Repka. To be fair to him, he gave the Kop as good as he got and his challenges, while bordering on the edge of an assault charge, were done with a genuine love for his role and club. Some respect to him for that.

Finally: talkS**T*
My impression is that the 'Keysie & Graysie' debacle will last no more than another month to six weeks. Such banality was usually the domain of Alan (I'm eating while I'm talking as my weight has dropped alarmingly to just 34 stone) Brazil and Ronnie (I'm here! Listen to me as well!) Irani. I expect Kerry Catona, Jordan and Ed Milliband to be bland, dull, boring and unwatchable. It's the same as Keysie and Graysie - but they are just 'unlistenable!'

Steve Parker

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:46:46
Have to agree with the post about Snodgrass, he wud be a decent back up striker as he adds something different. If I was to pick him or Ngog for the bench I would go with Snodgrass especially after last nights performance. Ngog looked out of his depth and that was only playing a ordinary Sparta side with ageing defenders.

Mairt10

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:45:00
What the hell is a side back?? ?

TC

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:29:15
Hi ed, just wanted to ask what is the possibility of us getting Dzsudzs k in the summer. He is a top winger just what we need on the left hand side id say £12 mil.

{editor: I have no idea what the chances are, it all depends if we are after him.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:22:29
To the post below johnsons best position is centre mid forward nets . . . . . . . soccer my a hole

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 10:15:27
{Editor's Note: There will obviously be progress made as time passes - but Purslow was always going to move on. What difference do you expect a new CEO to make?}

Sorry ed, wasn't asking as if I thought it would make a difference. I think it would just be the final piece of the puzzle sorted in terms of the make up of the board. Also in many ways, having a CEO finalised feels like a new beginning, with majority of the H&G era well and truly behind us.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 09:59:34
Anybody got any news on the new ground/ redevelopment of anfield? Whilst we wait for summer transfers surely this should be taking priority? Every month that goes by is a lost month of revenue to get us back to financial level pegging with the clubs higher up.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 09:31:57
Does nobody feel that the Lucas 'good or bad' debate has run it's course? It's been going on for three bl**dy years and the last few weeks on here has been all that people want to talk about!

MR EM

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 09:31:58
Can Carrol & Suarez play now for LFC in the European league agaist Braga?

{Editor's Note: Carroll yes, Suarez no.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 09:12:10
Reflection on last nights game, we played well, all be it not great, but we won. Could have been 2 or 3-0 had we taken our chances, one of them being Ngog nicking Cole's shot of him!

I do believe a lot of the players we are seeing in these games are in the shop window so to speak. Players who probably won't be LFC players here in the summer?

Poulsen
Ngog
Poss Cole
Soto

Come the latter stages we'll possibly see a more stronger side out on the pitch. As for all the Lucas haters, i don't understand? OK he's Brazilian but he's never going to be Pele! Like another poster said "How many Brazil players have made it in the prem? So get off the guys back, he puts in more effort than two other names i could mention who played last night!

We are on an unbeaten run of 8 games, plus 7 clean sheets, another last night. We beat the hammers Sunday that's another 3 points closer to fourth. Spurs are already showing the strain of maintaining 4Th spot against Blackpool. And now we are breathing down their necks as are Chelsea who i think have had their 15Min's in the spotlight and are starting to show it. If we won all our remaining games (a big if) things could turn out a lot better come the summer in relation to signings etc.

There are still some big games to play between the top 5 so anything can change. I am sure we will see some surprises in the summer transfer window like we saw in this one!

I am also confident we can win the Europa league cup to round off our very poor season, for which hopefully we'll never see the likes of again!

Lee73

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 09:12:50
Lucas should just be a squad player

What! He is way better than the likes of Carrick, Fletcher, Ramires, Denilson and Huddlestone, but they are good enough for the first team.

I swear I must watch a different Lucas, the guy is s**t, full stop. If he is being played out of position then I hope he gets his chance to play where he prefers to show me he deserves to wear the red shirt, because as a DM he is the worst (apart for poulson, who should retire). For the one ed who says he's been our most consistent player for 18 months and all the ones who think hes great and improved. one question. how f***ing poor have lfc become for this useless tool to be given the praise he is receiving. the guy, as a DM, would struggle in the championship. I hope he gets a shot playing further up the field, but Im sure he said himself that he styled himself on Dunga who was a DM. I don't want stats on his 2 inch pass completion etc. He is carp, poor in the tackle, too many free kicks given away, too slow, gets dragged out of position easily, too many bad passes when it goes over four yards. no creativity, puts so much pressure on players around him, the guy just doesn't think, or the premiership is too quick for him! We have no one else and that is why he plays. Don't care if he starts for Brazil cos there not my country and there s**t anyway. If some spanish or italian team offers money for him in the summer I would be amazed if Kenny keeps him. He could probably handle those slower less physical leagues abit better. Im not getting in to a debate about this, the guy, as a DM is s**t and LFC deserve better, he only plays as we have no one else

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 09:05:53
No one would spend £8m on Cole!

Citeh rejected a £20m bid for Richards from us in January.

Why would you get rid of Lucas? By far one of our best players and has the determination and passion!

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Lucas being one of our best players shows how much our squad is lacking any quality imo.
There are plenty more better players out there that would add a lot more to the team.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 09:06:44
Hi eds this is my debut post . .
great site by the way love it! !
to my point how the hell can king kenny now not play little Jay Spearing ahead of the donkey that is christian Poulsen? i think Poulsen gave the ball away about 6 times. . and i don't recall Spearing loosing the ball at all, and he also played cole through with a great ball late on! i love Kenny but seriously we need to get rid of our dead wood and play the youngsters!
also kelly and wilson are the future of our defence

RED PAUL YNWA

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 08:31:36
24 Feb 2011 22:22:39
Can anyone name a worse liverpool forward in the last 20 years than ngog?

Sean Dundee? Erik Meijer?

Harry J

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 06:40:15

Your opinion on these summer ins and outs
IN
Taiwo (LB)
Enrique (LB)
Popadopolous (CB)
Mvilla (DM)
Turan (WING)
Marin (WING)
Marveux (WING EITHER) Bosman
Benzema (Striker)

These will supply major strength to the team in every position and add more competition for places within the squad
Outs
Konchesky
Aquilani
Poulsen
Ngog
Jovanovic
Rodriguez

Squad would be
1 Reina
2 Jones
3 Taiwo
4 Enrique
5 Kelly
6 Johnson
7 Agger
8 Skrtel
9 Kyriakos
10 Popadopoous
11 Wilson
12 Carragher **
13 Turan
14 Gerrard **
15 Meirelles
16 Marin
17 lucas
18 Mvilla
19 Marveux
20 Cole **
21 Pacheco
22 Shelvey
23 Suarez
24 Caroll
25 Benzema
** denotes Players that will have two/ three seasons at best left.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 06:47:13
Ed. . i heard news about lewis holtby saying that he would like to play in england. . .although he is an everton fan, i think we should bid for him this summer.also his father was a liverpudlian so he would find himself comfortable here. what do u think?

{Editor's Note: I don't see that he would add enough to the side.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 07:19:23
Can I make a request that has been made before but does not seem to be headed relating to Believable/ Unbelievable buttons? Why do we not abide by the simple rule below:
If you agrre with the last post in the thread press Believable - that includes what the Eds say.
If you do not then press Unbelievable.

I get the impression people are not viewing what the Eds say as part of the posts and on many occassions pressing Unbeilvable when they should be doing otherwise?
IggyPop

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how about every re post has a believable and unbelievable buttons it would take time but this would definitely help

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 07:26:00
Hey ed, with Purslow now officially leaving the club, could we take this as a sign that progress is being made in the CEO, or possibly even announcing an appointment shortly?

DownUnderRed.

{Editor's Note: There will obviously be progress made as time passes - but Purslow was always going to move on. What difference do you expect a new CEO to make?}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 07:46:08
Everything seems to have died down regarding Honda, I thought he looked a great player, anyone heard anything about him, ed, macca, u heard anything?
Trillionaire

{Editor's Note: The transfer window is shut.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 08:05:04
On the subject of Christian Purslow, the 2nd part of his statement really made me laugh.

"I look forward with pride and excitement to watching Liverpool FC compete at the highest levels once again"

as much as i respect the effort he put into getting rid of Laurel and Hardy, i also can't but help think that the troubles we have faced on the field the last 2 seasons are as much down to him too.

afterall he's the one who, along with Broughton, got rid of Benitez & brought on board one Mr Woy Hodgson.

people must not forget for all his so called failings (ie finishing 7th after finishing 2nd) Benitez was battling on three fronts - the owners, the league and most importantly purslow.

the sacking of benitez was nothing more than a power struggle, one RB was never gonna win.

Purslow was appointed as a condition of RBS extending their loan. basically they had their man on the inside.
this was the summer of 2009 after finshing 2nd when Benitez wanted to strengthen the team. Purslow wouldn't allow the alonso money to be re-invested (under instruction from H&G and RBS). as benitez has said on many occassions, he'd lined up a deal that would have helped us go to the next level (poss silva/ Villa) but the lack of ambition from Purslow, acting on the best interests of RBS, not us, didn't allow benitez to push on. so he was peed off all season.

and as the vibes coming from players is that promises were broken. imagine RB tellin torres we're about to sign Silva only for us to get an injured aquaman.

so yeah people are right to say we didn't replace alonso, as aqua man was never fit and in my opinion not 1st choice, and when he was it was too late.
that's why RB and CP didn't get on and that's why benitez was never going to win that battle as purlsow had rbs behind him.

if he'd appointed Dalglish (as KK wanted to as he said his credentials were as good as if not better than RH), pellegrini or Rijkaard instead of hodgson, i don't think we would have been in the S**t we have, as proven by the fantastic work KK has done since he came back.

anyway well done to KK, SL and SC, great win last night Lads, looking forward to a good couple of months of footie. beating the spam will go some way to forgetting most of this season, if we can carry on as we have we'll have a say in matters and 5/ 4th is not out of the question

Ynwa
sinner786

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 02:17:12
25 Feb 2011 02:13:09
Lucas should just be a squad player


What! He is way better than the likes of Carrick, Fletcher, Ramires, Denilson and Huddlestone, but they are good enough for the first team.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 02:13:09
Lucas should just be a squad player

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 00:42:14
It wasn't the poor quality of our team that made tonight what it was, it was the poor quality of theirs

these early european nights will never be good games when the opposition team come knowing they have no chance, and therefore sit back all game

wait until we are playing better teams who will actually come to us with a decent match
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Have you even watched the game?

What i saw was an equal match with enough chances made by sparta praha(if that's how you pronounce that in england)

diO

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 00:32:06
I think Huntelaar could be a good signing for LFC. He played alongside Suarez at Ajax and both players developed a good understanding on the playing field.

He could also work well with Andy Carroll who will score goals but also create chances for players around him.

The fact that Suarez and Carroll will probably be first choice strikers could work well in favour of Huntelaar, who would not join LFC with the pressure of leading the line and expected to be a tallisman.

LFC are in need of an extra striker, Carroll provides aerial strength like Crouch, Suarez provides pace skill and finnishing technique like Tevez, Huntelaar would provide technical skill and finnishing like Torres.

I believe if Huntelaar joined LFC, Kenny Dalglish would make him a success.

He could sign for 12 million.

Whats your opinion ed? {ed's note - too slow.}

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 00:12:03
IN an answer to Mr.Hazard saying he will reject any offer from pool or arsenal if madrir or barca come in for him, just want to tell him that if he looks at the big players that have joined Real the majority not all have had their career spiral into a disaster because they do not really improve on players they use players. Uless you play very well game in game out they drop you straight away at barca but we do not do that at pool we give room for the players to develop and certainly help them to do so and so do arsenal so JUST HOPE WHAT YOU ARE WISHING FOR HAZARD.


hibsylfc

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 00:14:40
Wilson disappointing imo he keep bouting the ball down field he was better last week

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 00:15:05
There seems to be a lot of posters lobbying for Michel Bastos to be signed as our new left wing-back / winger but to be honest do we really need another overhyped and overpriced Brazilian on board? With the notable exception of Juninho how many Brazilians have successfully settled in the EPL?

Personally I would prefer Adam Johnson, who would be a sensation at LFC, or failing that PSV's Bal zs Dzsudzs k. I really hope that we sign 3 wingers (1 left, 1 right and 1 who can play on both sides) to give our squad a greater depth.

Hopefully KK will add some much needed quality to the squad that will allow the fantastic youngsters that we have to develop at a steady rate. We badly need to get rid of Poulsen who was atrocious tonight as was Ngog (we haven't had a striker this bad since Sean Dundee).

I was at the game tonight and it's only when you see them live that you can appreciate how bad they are. There is no drive or desire and quite often they go into hiding on the pitch. A lot of fans that I spoke to want to see Benzema and Yann M'Vila signed in their places.

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 00:16:03
It wasn't the poor quality of our team that made tonight what it was, it was the poor quality of theirs

these early european nights will never be good games when the opposition team come knowing they have no chance, and therefore sit back all game

wait until we are playing better teams who will actually come to us with a decent match!

 

 

 

 

25 Feb 2011 00:04:09
24 Feb 2011 23:16:55
24 Feb 2011 23:16:55
After watching tonights game is anyone of the same opinion that Ngog is simply not championship quality never mind prem league quality. We need another striker after AC & Suarez and of decent quality. All the top 4 teams have 3-4 top strikers or am I stating the obvious

You sound like a man u fan. We are Liverpool and we support every single player at our beloved club. Give the kid a break he works harder than Torres did at any point in the season. And don't forget even with his limited appearances he is still or Europa league top scorer. Give him a break and to be fair to the la he'd walk into any championship attack bar Cardiff

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:59:39
Ed, i don't rate johnson at all at side back
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Yet another pre-pubescent muppet whose footballing knowledge is derived from Pro Evolution Soccer coming on posting drivel.

{Editor's Note: He will do a lot better when he is given a chance at centre wing though.}

 

 

 

 

 
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