Liverpool Banter Archive January 25 2013

 

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25 Jan 2013 23:30:27
This is the story so far regarding coutinho from an italian news paper;

"Inter Milan must be pulling their hair out with the Coutinho situation. First they get excited because Liverpool look certain to be signing him according to the Liverpool Echo, giving them the opportunity to go and get Paulinho from Corinthians, a player they appear absolutely desperate to sign.

Then Liverpool offer a bid that is way below their valuation and Inter Milan think they're going to be in for tough talks, but Coutinho does an interview and says he doesn't want the transfer anyway, despite reports in England stating otherwise.

New hope arrives with Southampton and a bigger bid which Inter Milan find just about acceptable and then, according to today's Gazzetta, Coutninho decides that after being faced with the prospect of Southampton he thinks he'd rather like to join up with Brendan Rodgers.

Mauricio Pochettino, Southampton's new boss, had Coutinho on loan at Espanyol from last January until the end of last season. That was thought to have given the team an advantage when moving in to sign the player and on Wednesday Gazzetta, below left, said that Southampton had moved ahead of Liverpool after offering more for the Brazilian midfielder. They said that Southampton had bid €11m, €3m more than Liverpool had, but still €4m less than Inter Milan want for the midfielder.

After Coutinho telling Calciomercato - "The rumours about the interest of Liverpool are nice, but my desire is to stay here in Milan. I do not feel I'm on the market, I feel the confidence of the coach and club. My head is concentrated on making the most of myself and to return to being strong." - it all seemed to be moving away, but now Gazzetta say Coutinho is waiting for an improved Liverpool offer, which has again scuppered Inter Milan and their quest to sign Paulinho.

He won't sign for Southampton if he can help it, and has told the Italian club to wait for a better Liverpool proposal. This makes things difficult for Inter Milan who now have to wait and see what Liverpool will do and hope that the situation doesn't drag on until the end of the current window. Pochettino will no doubt be trying to change his mind in the background"

abbs

 

 

25 Jan 2013 23:27:53
Playing hard ball over transfer targets is great...when it works
Missing out on a player the manager really wants for the sake of a million quid would be folly
I wonder which way this is going to go

Hypothetically speaking, if you were high flying in a job and were driving a Jag but suddenly were demoted and needed to buy a cheaper car but the car dealer knew you drove a Jag and slapped 30% on the price. Would you still buy it? I'm not saying they slapped a higher price on Coutinho but can you see where this is going? Brendan has identified a target and FSG have set the budget, I don't see what is wrong with this. Your boss set a budget of £2k for the Christmas party but you moan that he didn't pay for strippers. Madness

You have very low expectations who has the better potential and has played at an higher level, couthino or ince, and how much are we willing to pay for ince with all his championship experience and pedegree, I wounder a few mill off ince would sort the answer out, or a golf is cheaper to run than a jag,

26 Jan 2013 11:45:51
Ha Ha Ha! The post about Xmas party and not getting strippers nearly made me spit my coffee all over the laptop. Very funny and a good post. Strippers should be invited to every xmas party. However, not sure that I'll request that at the next head office xmas do. Don't think it would go down to well. Great post. Still laughing.

Albert

 

 

25 Jan 2013 23:12:52
Our bid has apparently been "re-structured" for Coutinho.
With the bulk of our bid being payed upfront in cash.

Left it with them to decide.
I'd say Monday at the latest.
Piddy.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 23:06:26
If we're trying to adapt a tika-taka style of football, why are we so obsessed with English players, the nation with not too many really technically gifted players and who's national team is notorious for 'hoofing' the ball up field. Just think back 4/5 years to the times where we were a real force, our team was majority foreign with Gerrard and Carra the only first team English men. Compare that with now where there has been a big increase in English men, and look at the difference. Foreigners are the way forward in my opinion, particularly in the midfield and on wings, where we need more creativity and the ability to beat a man.

Me.

Mainly English centre backs who are well overated and hoof it.
Carra was ok with Sammi alongside him.
John Terry was ok with the little Portuguese (who's name escapes me) alongside him.
Don't ever put 2 English centre backs together? The ball will be skybound.

kidmillions

Im happy with the amount of English players, you need an English core of players which we have.

I feel as though building a strong squad capable of playing pass and move football built on British grit is a huge benefit to England. I do not follow England as I find them very tedious to say the least but I follow all of our players and hope that they return from international duty without an injury.
Scouse_Pride

Ricardo Carvahlo.

Each club will, at the end of every transfer window, have to name at least eight "home-grown" players in a squad of 25.
To qualify as home grown, a player will have had to be registered for at least three seasons at an English or Welsh club between the ages of 16 and 21.
A good example is where Man city sold Andy Johnson and replaced him with Scott Sinclair, who now never plays but is on their quota.
Hope this helps.
Paul

Of course British players can play pass and move, we've played some lovely stuff this year with a British core. We had a great side for a couple of years under Rafa but I would cringe when we sent out a team with one or two Brits - it just seemed wrong. And they tend to stay for longer, it's impossible to build a team around a group of players that want to move somewhere hot after a couple of seasons.

Po

 

 

25 Jan 2013 23:02:53
Firstly we need some new rumours. No more talk of coutinho as he's done nothing to prove he's good enough. If I was a fifa or champo manager man I'd probably say sign Gomez from bayern or Higuin but let's be honest not happening but I did spot ozil arriving at melwood and alonso told him how good Liverpool is so he must be signing!

Liverpool really need to do what Newcastle have done, identify talented players playing in foreign leagues regularly and buying them at a cheap rate. This coutinho guy isn't nearly as good as sissoko and this is why Liverpool's squad is not champo league quality. We keep missing out on targets to spurs and now southampton, our negotiator is clearly not doing a good job.

Eds what do you think of the targets we are linked with now? We seem to be only linked with inexperience

I will Say I think sturr idge was good business

The big nolo

There's no substitute for skill. Everything else is just coached.

Newcastle have signed a lot of players and to be honest they've got some dross in there.
Sissoko and Mbiwa are good players but before you get too excited about it lets see where they finish because I can see them going down

If the targets aren't good enough, how exactly are we "missing out" on them.

Yeah you're right lets do what Newcastle have done and buy players like obertan, cisse and marveux. Then we can battle relegation too!
I jest to a degree but who knows how good these new boys will be. For me a few of their players over performed last year and have now been found out. The likes of tiote and cisse come to mind. Though they have had a lot of injuries.

You make a great point. Newcastle identify cheap foreign players and are really pushing for the champions league this season. Especially with great signings like Sissoko.

Oh wait they are like 2 points above the relegation zone with no good striker and a shoddy defence. 1 season wonder?

Ben Rose

That's right, lets follow the Newcastle model. Buy a load of mercianaries who play well for a year just to get themselves in the shop window then leave (or start causing trouble behind the scenes) the second another club comes in.

Po

 

 

25 Jan 2013 22:42:41
sorry haven't posted for a while and i'm sort of glad with all this bs going round about possible ins and outs so i'm here to set the record staight.

1. countinho deal will be done in the next 48 hrs or talks will stop.
2. tom ince deal is all but done ready for the summer as blackpool want to keep him till then.
3. ashley williams is a no go as fsg will not let BR spend 10m on a 28 year old just like the sneijder deal.
4.suarez will be leaving in the summer sorry to say even though i'm a big fan. bids to be made for him are
b munich
man c
r madrid
barca

thanks
truered13

Just trying to be clever

Mate suarez already has interest off them and other world class clubs and yet he still signed for us and resigned in summer.
I think he will give it until next season and if we don't achieve CL he will leave and I would blame him.
He comes across as an intelligent fella and if he wanted CL so badly he wouldn't of left Ajax or he would have chosen one of the many CL clubs that wer eyein him up. You can see he is in his element with Sturridge who from the little he's shown has impressed big time.

Which 'world class' player wouldn't want to join Pep at Bayern.
Brilliant Club (awesome, well managed, fantastic club executives), amazing manager (pep), beautiful city (Munich).
What a prospect.
German Red.

Bayern are the most hated Club in Germany (There Bavarians)
kidmillions

26 Jan 2013 13:04:27
True red. You say sorry for not posting for a while. Who are you apologising to? You are clearly deluded and think that we're all sat here waiting for your words of wisdom. Ha ha ha ha! You have just posted utter nonsense. How do you know all this? Suarez to Bayern. Why would he do that? He has never said anything about Pep to make me think he wants to play for him. I believe and this is not some insider gossip because quite frankly I don't know anyone at the club who works, plays or cleans the boots this is purely my opinion. Suarez signed a new contract because he was happy with BR's vision, management style etc. Why would he then go against all that to sign for Bayern and up root his family when he's more than happy on merseyside? Maybe you should not post anything for a while longer if that's all you can come up with.
Albert

 

 

25 Jan 2013 22:36:58
Lucas has started following coutinho on twitter.

How ironic, so did I

 

 

25 Jan 2013 22:17:04
Macca, Any updates on player transfer in or out of Liverpool? I appreciate its difficult to get info from the club but I, like a lot of others, always look out for your posts. Thanks

Kam

Any interest in pritchard ed? Inglethorpe rates him one of the best in europe! But I hear his eager to sign a new contract? {Ed052's Note - I think he was mentioned as a player he recomnended}

26 Jan 2013 00:14:32
It looks like Coutinho is done and as I said early Ince himself believes the deal is pretty much done..

Hope the info turns out to be correct..

Also by all accounts Coates has no future at the club and maybe a centre half will be signed..

Cheers

Macca
{Ed033's Note - Confirmed as the real Macca

26 Jan 2013 01:54:37
Thanks Macca,

What do you think of Ince and Coutinho as players?

26 Jan 2013 02:07:34
Macca you've stated you believe the Coutinho deal is done, do you rate him as a player? More importantly do you think he will improve our starting 11?

Dan.

26 Jan 2013 02:07:51
Thanks Macca. Should the Ince and Coutinho deals go through (and therefore conclude lfc transfer business for january) how would you sum it up? Is coutinho going to be our Modric? should ince be brought back? is sturridge the next 'ian rush'? just opinionating........i like the players we have brought in.......i lil more experience would be nice however

Thanks

Kam

26 Jan 2013 02:08:42
Any chance of Turan in the summer Macca?

Adam

26 Jan 2013 02:18:14
as always great to hear from Macca on the coutinho deal

 

 

25 Jan 2013 22:14:24
yo! {Ed052's Note - howdy}

25 Jan 2013 22:44:49
Wazzup!

Jolly Red

 

 

25 Jan 2013 22:10:50
Just seen countinho in the back of a black merc outside melwood. bout to have medical I guess!

How come no-one spotted him at JLA?
Noall 01

10.10 on a friday night?

Why is it always a black merc or BMW, why do I never hear rumours about players arriving at melwood in a bright yellow Austin Allegro?

Harry redknapp has all the old allegros

Club cars are notoriously black with blacked out windows so people can't see in. A bright yellow Austin wouldn't go unseen by all accounts.

Ben Rose

26 Jan 2013 13:38:45
Why aren't new transfers asked to pedal a rickshaw to Anfield with the clubs delegates in the passenger seats. Surely this would eliminate the need for a medical and they could do a who gets the best time league table. Just a thought.

Albert

 

 

25 Jan 2013 22:02:50
Every transfer window we all have to sit through bs rumours from people who are definitely in the no and have reliable sources? David villa at jl airport? The eds are nearly always bang on so why not leave them to report what's going on. As they have said once and 1 more to come in. Pretty much confirmed by BR today. Hopefully coutinho! But you never no? Great work eds. {Ed052's Note - thanks, some funny rumours cheer us up tho!}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 22:00:02
Eds where in the team if we buy coutinho will he play? Do you think he will be another sahin {Ed052's Note - another Sahin? No. He would probably play in the front 3, or the new Suarez drifting role}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 21:47:10
Someone asked earlier if coutinho had a preference between us and Southampton. According to one of his teammates he will move to either team as he just wants game time, but does prefer Liverpool. I'm very certain that if the fee can be agreed then the player will choose us, however we are way short of both inters evaluation (which is too high anyway) and Southampton bid. I'm still of the opinion that it's unlikely we will sign him due to our reluctance to meet the fee.

Nevada

 

 

25 Jan 2013 21:41:50
Hey Ed, I don't get to see the academy play that much, are there any players in particular from the academy that you see as an exciting prospect? Also I've seen a few people saying we've had a Coutinho bid accepted or that we have taken a step closer to signing him, truth or BS? Cheers mate,
LS7. {Ed052's Note - our youth players have been talked anout to death, but, the main talents are; Robbo, Mclaulghin, Trickett-Smith, Morgan, Ibe, Yesil, Adorjan, Ward, The young Gerrard ( whats his name, left my head). Ojo, erm, thats off the top of my head, and Teixera. Others are good but probably wont make it with us. Nothing on Coutinho}

Jordan rossiter is the young gerrard {Ed052's Note - bingo, cheers}

God that's a lot of players! Never realised how talented our academy actually was until you listed the players the players that could make it into our team! Also the young Gerrard, is it Rossiter or Coady? Also do you anything on that O'Hanlon kid from Ireland, heard he was supposed to be a good player?Cheers mate,
LS7. {Ed052's Note - Rossiter. O'Hanlon is very young buf has rave reviews. Give it a year and we will know more about him}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 21:31:26
The transfers will continue with either coutinho or ince coming in. Right now coutinho is the preferred option as he is not getting playing time. Ince is playing well with blackpool and with coutinho most likely being bought and downing finally playing well on the left wing, there is no point of buying him as it will just stop his progress. Look for movement in the summer as downing with most likely leave with ince coming in.
Coates will most likely be loaned with Mirin coming in for around 5 mil.
That should end the transfer window with a quite successful one

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:40:48
Hey ads, what is the latest situation with Coutinho? Has there been an update today or if not could you give one now? Cheers. {Ed052's Note - nothing I know at the minute. I dont believe there has been much if any change from what Ed002 last said}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:35:23
ED: If Reina were to leave do you think we would go down the road of keeping Jones age 30 and bringing in a sparkling young prospect like 22yr old Kevin Trapp from Frankfurt.
Seems be the road a lot of clubs are going down; a young talented keeper with an experienced back up.
Kevin Trapp looks every inch a star of the future and has a very similar profile to Joe Hart when he made the breakthrough.
kidmillions {Ed052's Note - its very possible yes. I'm off the opinion Jones lad should be number 1, and a younger keeper number 2, but I believe it will be the other way round}

Interesting, Ed052. I see Jones as a perfect number two keeper but I don't think his distribution is as good as we want and is still a little prone to error, in my eyes at least. Each to their own I guess.

Andy K {Ed052's Note - I think Jones has come on leaps on bounds. His distribution has improved hugely, and his is far less prone to error than Reina}

I agree with ed there Jones is not only less error prone he also seems to inspire more confidence in the defence resulting in less mistakes from defenders. I think we should sign zieler from German league, I forget which team, a friend of mine in German media said we have scouted him.

Nevada

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:22:33

ACHILLES. {Ed052's Note - all make up shit mate tbh, to get hits}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 18:43:14
Hi ed,
Four players now left our already thin squad and only 1 addition, there must be a couple more players in.I pray the owners learnt their lesson from the summer transfers and hope we don't miss targets again.

Dave

What? We've sold 4 first team squad players? Who?

SpudRed

25 Jan 2013 22:51:48
he said 4 left not 4 sold. Probably including ngoo and wilson on loan

Hounsred

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:59:46
Eds what's is your knowledge of Paulino from Brazil?
I don't know anything about him but from the Google search he looks a good lad
Any comments? {Ed052's Note - the lad Inter want? Good player, overpriced}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 21:27:08
Lucas following Coutinho on Instagram is pasted from so probably isn't even true. Plus Lucas is following most of the Brazil team so are we signing Kaka, Neymar and Hulk too?

Despite this, I still think Coutinho will be announced in next few days after Rodgers says he is looking to sign 1-2 more players. I very doubt he would have said that if 1 if not 2 deals are very close. If we are not close to signing anyone then it will be very stupid of Brendan to state such a thing as it will show that in the second transfer window in a row we have failed to get our targets.

RedChris

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:39:05
Macca said ince is a done deal so that's good enough for me, he has almost 95% sucess rate from last two windows so he might have info on coutinho soon I hope red2toe

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:33:37
Anyone else think kristian adorjan looks like neil out of the inbetweeners?

ACHILLES.

No problame0!

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:13:37
A little off topic I know but sure anway,,,,,

Is anyone else a bit disappointed that Liverpool will now never have a world class stadium and that Anfield is getting renovated to hold only an extra 15,000 seats?

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Anfield and it's been our spiritual home for over 100 years so I'm happy it will continue to be so.

Sayin that though, I've always been pissed off (I mean it really really annoyed me) over the last 2 decades that our greatest rivals had a 75,000 seater. We came off the back of the 70's and 80's as the most successful and popular team from England. I only wish during the early 90's that we had got the finger out and redeveloped our stadium then (like United did) or built a new world class facility capable of holding 70 - 80,000.
I know hindsight is a wonderful thing and the building of a stadium is all politics and money but it just bothers me so so much that even smaller clubs (in both England and Europe) manage to get higher attendances each week. I attended a Borrusia Dortmand home game last year and even they had 82,000.

Anyway what do you guys think, are you happy with the eventual 60,000 Anfield or as a club should we of aimed higher and would you of liked to see us in a bigger stadium?

Kelly Red

60,000 is disappointing. We would fill 80,000 every week. They could price range the tickets according to view aswel so the higher seats would be cheaper and the people who are priced out of the games now could afford the match day experience. It's a shame the amount of diehard fans that come on here and kids who worship the club that can't afford to visit on match day and support the team. i'm fortunate I can afford to take my son to the games like my dad did for me but I fear for the future and the way things are going the true young fans playing football in the street have never seen the Anfield grass under the lights. 60,000 normal priced seats and an extra 20,000 cheaper seats at the top would be brilliant. If only In my little dream lfc world...

It would be nice to have a big big stadium, but I do think that teams that have relocated to new big grounds have struggled to get the atmosphere that the old grounds had (arsenal is shockingly quiet nowadays and highbury always had a great atmosphere) however I would be better for the supporters because the more tickets there are the easier it is to get to games, but in vthis day and age it cost mega money to build new big stadiums so I can understand the redevelopment, but do agree that it does leave us behind some of the others for matchday revenue..............andy.

Utd. Had superb chairperson and marketing in charge... It is partly what made them. They were buying players like Ferdinand for 30million over 11 years ago... Fergie is good but, crikey, he's not done it on a shoe string.

Don't forget that the local public transport infrastructure would be maxed at just over 60,000 (for a new stadium or a redevelopment). Beyond that the costs of upgrade are more than likely disproportionately expensive.

And, in no way do we want to get into massive high service debt with high interest rates. At this moment in the rebuilding process, we need surplus monies to be able to buy players and build this squad.

A new stadium is probably the slowest way to make money to invest in the team in the short and medium term. If anything, it might end up taking away money from a team rebuilding in the short/medium term.

If FSG can expand Anfield to 60K seats, without handicapping our transfer spending, and without putting the current rebuilding in to limbo, then I'm all for the prudent smart fiscal approach of living within our means. 60K is fine with me. Winning and being successful as a club again is what really matters.

SpudRed

I personally would have prefered a state of the art super stadium in Stanley Park with 75,000 seats, shopping centre, restaurants, cinema, fast food places. Also capable of hosting major music concerts and sporting events American footbal etc in the summer months. Even if it meant sharing with Efc to get it.
The districts of Anfield and Everton need regenerating and not just a lick of paint.
Ps: 75.000 seats would also ensure family circle seats at cheaper prices could be made available on matchdays.

kidmillions

Future of the game is no longer bums on seats, it's multi media online business. 60k will cover current average attendance + waiting list averages, yes they will not "waste" a penny more on risk of an empty seat.

Think, 60k at stadium and 10 million online as clubs agree there own tv rights to games.

E- tickets, virtual tours the wider fan experience, ones that would never get the chance but would pay.

Don't get me wrong, I get to Anfield as much as I can, and away games close to me, other than that every week I am online watching for free because I can, won't be long before it is realised money can be made from it.
Piddy.

Thanks for all the replies guys,,

We'll just have to wait and see how things pan out,

Kelly Red

We can blame David Moore's for nearly ruining our club and not progressing during the 90's,

No worldwide marketing, sponsorship deals, stadium development, nothing. While United were being run like a Super chain Megastore, Moore's was running Liverpool like crappy cornershop.

Peter H Red

"Fergie is good but, crikey, he's not done it on a shoe string."

I don't fully disagree with this statement but you should check the net spend figures for United v Liverpool during the Premiership years. Makes for interesting reading I promise you.

Gav

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:10:46
Prior to the January transfer window opening I think every Liverpool supporter in the world understood that we were in desperate need for reinforcements. Tom Werner Brendan Rodgers players past and present all said that we needed to add 2-3 players of a better quality than what we already have and at the same time certain players who have spent far too much time either injured or warming the bench on ridiculously high wages would be hopefully moved on. So far we are 60% there, Sahin and Cole have left the club, and the signing of Sturridge was a masterful stroke to add strength to our centre forward line of the ONE and only Suarez who has carried the centre forward position all season on his own.

With 6 days to go and rumours of Coutinho and Ince as probable signings I just hope all the hard work done so far doesn't come crashing down come feb 1st with just the signing of Sturridge. I'm begining to feel a little sorry for BR as he must be dreading going infront of the cameras again the day after the window shuts trying his best to hide the disappointment of another poor transfer window...sept 1st last year was cringeworthy and shameful.

I hope I'm wrong and we get Coutinho and maybe Ince too, if not then I think it's time Ian Ayre and his team of negotiators need to have a long look in the mirror and ask themselves are they really trying there utmost best for Our great club on there fat salaries or are they just there going through the motions like the likes of Cole and Sahin.

Curled1

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:08:10
How is it that newcastle can splash the cash on 4 new players and new contracts/wages without selling players? We had to cut loads just to afford 2/3 new players? Finishing 5th in the table after struggling to establish themselves back into the premier league can't yield that much expendature surely?

Im one of the few fans who appreciate how lucky we are to have even signed sturridge this window but i'm a little taken aback by the amount of money other clubs flaunt about knowing how delicate signing new players can be.

Noshbag

Because they have prob got some leftover money from the carroll deal and they haven't exactly spent big money they have only spent a couple of mill more than we have on sturridge, what's with the fascination with other teams business anyway?

SB96

They got the Carroll money remember?

Stoffe

Didn't they sell Demba Ba to Chelsea for £7m?

For pity's sake, we must be in a bad way if Liverpool "supporters" are jealous of the Geordies wheeling & dealing in the transfer market.

We have signed a very good young talent in Daniel Sturridge, with possibly Coutinho & Ince joining too. In my book, that's a massive improvement on what we were left with on Sept 1st last year.

They sold Ba..

Its wages, we had a squad on champions league money and no champions league, they have a wage budget that they can manage, we were (and still are to some degree) spending millions on wages and not new signings SIMPLES :)............andy.

I know who'se position i'd rather be in.
derryred

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:05:33
Hi folks!Remember when we signed sturridge for £12M Fergie said that we are taking a gamble! What should we say to him about the £15M he has just spent on Zaha!



redRUM

 

 

25 Jan 2013 20:01:56
r.e. a post from yesterday. I travel from Belfast to watch the the games, I always pre book the tickets months in advance, hence the day of te match can change depending on sky and how big that game is regards league positions. I always book and overnight stay just in case the game has been shifted from sat to sun i.e. early flight sat, late flight sun. If the game is moved to Monday the orginal match
ticket is still valid. Depending on who you fly with if you explain to your carrier the change in circumtances I find they are quite accomadating as they usually overbook the flights as a matter of course,, so my advice would be to ring them, explain the situation and don't take no for an answer!

p.s. they will try to charge you extra. don't fall for it.They are just chancing. Hold firm.

Fred

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:59:15
It's annoying that Liverpool never went for sissoko and mbwia. Potentially they could work out either way but for under 10m would they have not been worth the risk seeing as we paid 55m for potential on carroll and henderson (who may yet live up to it) . Although he's not a kid should we not take a punt on diame at the money der talking. Maybe to get an advantage over other suitors we could take his value out of the deal in place for carroll. MonaghanRed

I think diame is a great player but he had a heart condition didn't he ?
derryred

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:54:09
I don't get why Coates is complaining with game time and wants to leave. He's only 20 and 2 of the best prem defenders ahead of him. He will be 3rd choice next season because Carra isn't getting any younger or better. Send him out on loan.

He's 22 mate not 20.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:17:00
I love the jft96 song and it would give me so many shivers to hear that being sang from the whole of Anfield like ynwa. What do you guys think?

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:16:57
Quick weather report:

Snowing heavily in Oldham. Boundary park doesn't have a heated pitch but they have erected a "heated bubble" to protect the pitch.

Match should definitely be on. But maybe give yourself a bit more time if you're travelling to it.

Source: I live in Oldham and I am freezing.

JCJ

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:10:02
can we hire the newcastle negotiators

sissoko 2, 5, debuchy 5.5

bargains

tom1975

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:07:14
oh my god this is killing me! are we going to sign coutinho or not? its so clear that all the fans want him. we paid more for borini. I am sick of waiting

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:00:28
what the hell is all the big thing about tom ince for god sake BR buy some quality experience its what we are crying out for stop wasting my season ticket money and 40 odd thousand and buy we are living in are history and need to wake up its been to long now without that title not at anfield and with those bags down the lancs prob getting 20 titles well I say no more hanks eds keep the good work up.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 18:56:27
i d ove to seejohn henry takecharge of these transfer neotiations

part ofthe delaymust be forard and backchat with
ayre and him

ayre hasn't the authority tosay okay 9.2 million done

henry would be in and done in an hour

i ll give you 8 no we want ten, okay I ll give you 8.75
no 9.5
okaythen 9.2 deal

25 Jan 2013 23:00:52
If only negotiating was that easy.

What else is there to negotiating but finding common ground

if its not doable shouldn't take weeks to find that out.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:48:33
Have pool fans become a bunch of shopaholic whiners ? So what, because we aren't dashing out in the January sales and panic buying... Yes we've been there remember !... This means that we aren't competing with soton and the spuds ! At last I feel like we have someone in charge who is sending out a clear message to those greedy agents that we are not here for the taking anymore. The team has a good feel about it and br can now afford to be a bit more choosy. I was at the Norwich game and met the man himself who seemed a genuinely nice guy, was polite and talked a lot of sense. The general in house buzz seems to be the most positive in along time ! YNWA tobiwan

Oh! Yes!


Lyndon

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:47:01
Brazilian midfielder Lucas has suddenly decided to befriend Philippe Coutinho on Instagram, leading many to believe that the Inter Milan man may well be on his way to Anfield.Of course this could be purely coincidental but many will wonder at the timing and assume the young San Siro star is set for a Merseyside move.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:45:14
Not a rumour but we should re sign gary mackay steven instead of ince after that amazing piece of skill

25 Jan 2013 21:02:07
Good player great two feet!

We had him and released him about 3 years ago.

Red1

25 Jan 2013 22:29:20
i agree. a player who dosent get the praise and mention he deserves and is a good consistant performer and a very classy player for dundee utd and wouldn't be to expensive either. howether weathe he is better tham any of our cutrent young crop I don't know
wolvo_Jake

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:42:46
I'd just like to solicite a round of applause for Kidmillions, he's making the site these days. Not a day has gone by without at least ten posts from him. I officially nominite him for the banter of the month award. Maybe the eds can send him a golden boot?

Golden keyboard?

I'm inconsistent, I go missing for weeks on end.
Until I get more consistent, I won't be getting a golden boot :(:(
kidmillions

If you don't keep up this consistency - you'll be benched - I'm watching you

Puzzled

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:35:33
Eds

Not LFC related but I've heard Newcastle have signed Joey Barton on a 3 year contract after been mistaken for a Frenchman. Any truth?

GoodKopBadKop

You thinking of joish bartoni from that french club

I can confirm that this is not true, but since Barton has been in France, half the French league has moved out.

Tig

After joey barton moved in

 

 

25 Jan 2013 19:22:21
quick question? if we get coutinho is the permit going to be an issue? sureky notbif negotiations are at an advanced stage.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 18:51:33
With BR stating a while back that he wants to find the next Steven Gerrard and for our scouts to 'look closer to home' It got me wondering how much do the FA actually put into the north west grass roots football?

Cody next Gerrard

There will never be another Gerrard, even the one now is not the 2005 classic model unfortunately.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 18:51:03
Not a rumor but made me laugh

Just whatched a few interviews with the lads on LFC online. Made me chuckle as Downing actually looks worried we have good players lol.
LETS KICK ON!

 

 

25 Jan 2013 18:39:46
hi there's been a lot of talk about ince maybe too much. I think he would be a average sighin. has there bin any intrest in Marco Rojas not seen loads of him! but looks very good what I have.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 18:17:57
I love these people who say targets are 'smokescreens' haha.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 18:12:23
Lucas just followed Coutinho in instagram, might not seem anything but we are 'close' to signing him. Lucas wouldn't follow him if we weren't fully interested or he is trying to talk him into joining ;)

Are they not both Brazilian teammate then . Cause not

He doesn't need convincing, he wants to come, we just need to come to an agreement with Inter on price and he'll be a Liverpool player.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 18:09:53
Not L.F.C. Related, but I would just like to congratulate Crystal Palace for the shrewdest bit of business for a while. 15m for Zaha. He's brutal. Haha

We paid £35m for Carroll, so i'd say that award goes to Newcastle.

SR (AKA StrabaneRed)

Technically we still have that award. We sold Fernando Torres for 50M

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:59:10
Why don't we just go after paulinho instead, how much would he cost ?

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:51:46
A quick question ed's. When Liverpool signed Riera from Espanyol... Everton made a better bid than us at the time, right? And Riera choose to join us over them. Is Ayre trying to do something similar with Inter and Coutinho? (A yes or no would do it!) {Ed001's Note - that is what he is hoping for.}

Rafa a reason he join us.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:50:19
Lucas just followed Coutinho on InstaGram which means he's practically signed.. {Ed001's Note - they are friends, it means nothing.}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:43:59
Alexander Doni has today broken his silence on his prolonged absence from Liverpool.

The Brazilian goalkeeper's status with the Reds has been shrouded in mystery since he was omitted from the club's pre-season tour of north America owing to personal issues.

Doni made just four appearances in his debut season at Liverpool, largely due to Pepe Reina's three-game suspension in April and was himself sent off against Blackburn.

His time away from Anfield has allowed Brad Jones to reclaim his place as deputy to Reina, who will miss Sunday's FA Cup fourth round trip at Oldham with a thigh problem.

Amd Doni who arrived from Roma on a free transfer in 2011, has revealed that he is currently residing in Miami while his future is resolved but refused to divulge the reason for his absence.

"They talk a lot. First, I was unhappy in the reserves, then it was an ankle injury, and I have to say every hour they invent a new story, " he told Globoesporte.

"I can not speak the truth about what's happening with me and Liverpool.

"We have a problem. I'm resolving the issue."

He added: "I'm expecting a call from my solicitor. I've returned to Miami now, where I was sorting out other business. I cannot say more than that."
source-clickLiverpool

25 Jan 2013 20:32:46
It says doni has broken is silence.....
Well he virtually said nothin

Another player who we never should of signed, waste of money and ill be glad to see the back of him at the end of the season! Sick of players crying about being in the reserves etc your rubbish plain and simple, you had your chance and you blew it

Well that's cleared that up then.

Nick

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:38:35
According to what reported by Record, Sporting Lisbon have set a 13 million euros starting price on Dutch international striker Ricky Van Wolfswinkel (24). Currently on a deal with Portuguese club until June 2016, former Utrecht high numbers scorer is a target for several European clubs, among which Fiorentina, Spartak Moscow and Norwich City.

Liverpool go for him.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:22:45
I'd jus like to say wat the owners/buck are doin is great why pay over the odds jus look wat we got with the legend that is KENNY D carroll/ downing/ 55million when we could of got decent quality I didn't mention HENDO because I've always thought he's quality in his proper position YNWA JON96 ps I would love us to get diame he's top notch

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:16:07
Hi eds, I know its not high on our priorities right now, but any update on the stadium situation?
Kabir {Ed001's Note - nothing new mate sorry. It takes time.}

They are hoping to get the first set of plans in this spring, but being a builder I can tell you that I could be ages before the council do anything with them, I sometimes wonder if they can read :)................andy.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:20:00
not sure if spurs employ scouts or avb just logs on to this great site and like a lot of us checks the player named on you tube and make a bid

Yea like we went after those superstars downing, henderson and carroll? Oh wait we did go after carroll but some persons offered stupid money! Think we welooked at suarez a whole year before you but stupidly we didn't do anything! Sneijder again linked first! Not interested in this other player! Just moutinho thanks

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:15:28
Why do people keep saying they want Torres back? Have you been watching him lately?

We've not had any Torres rumours or return stories for a while. Pitty really.

Torres rumoured back to Liverpool in the summer.... Lol

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:12:55
Perhaps not Liverpool related, but is there any known interest in Melgarejo of Benfica? Looks like he's got a good future.

ChrisMiz

 

 

25 Jan 2013 17:09:02
Hi eds, any idea what the club are doing with Dani Pacheco? Is he being loaned out, sold or will he actually get a chance in the cup? {Ed052's Note - he could leave in January, if not, the summer}

 

 

24 Jan 2013 14:59:51
Eds,

Not becuase he's moving to the Mancs but on a serious note Wilfried Zaha looks a quality player. what are your thoughts on him quality or not?

GAM# {Ed052's Note - not quality. His final ball is terrible}

Anyone who has watched him knows he will turn out a world class player. He has magical feet and pace. I think he will learn a lot from the likes of giggs and young. Only 20, and bags of potential.

If we manage to buy back Ince he is also one who has the qualities to cut it in the epl. Possibly half the price of Zaha too.

Red Lee {Ed001's Note - I have watched him and I don't see anything in him to suggest any kind of world class player in the making.}

He can run quite fast. That's about it.

25 Jan 2013 21:22:28
I'm seem to remember the same being said about Ronaldo

Giggs and Young? Seriously!

He has serious potential but he is either going to turn out like ronaldo or quaresma.. It will go one way or the other

 

 

24 Jan 2013 11:01:25
Eds, I read that Liverpool and Everton are battling it out to sign Chesterfield midfield sensation Tendayi Darikwa, 21, who is rated at £2m (source: football365.com). Have you heard anything on this and do you know anything about the lad?
Digger {Ed052's Note - I have heard about the lad, but he is 20/21 in league 2, so can0nnot understand the hype, but I must admit, I haven't seen him play. This gives a nice summery tho: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21015816}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 16:26:07
Hi eds, Rodgers has said he's hoping for 1or 2 more signings before the end of the window. Is that likely to be Coutinho & Ince, or could we expect a late move for Butland, Jeffren or a CB if Coates leaves?

25 Jan 2013 17:55:49
it means he's HOPING 4 2 more signings not we are gettin 2 more signings

I have been told ed (spurs end) that inglethorpe has urged br to go in for the spurs kid pritchard? Described as one of the best in europe for his age! I'm also told that the player is eager to sign a new contract at spurs! But an offer to spurs will go ahead?

 

 

25 Jan 2013 15:55:20
Sorry but I am not getting the saga with Coutinho.
Apparently he has stated he would prefer to come to Liverpool.
Liverpool have bid for him so what is the hold up?
I know Southampton have bid higher but he doesn't want to go there, or so we are led to believe.
If anybody could shed some light on this saga please feel free to reply.
If this does not come off there is something drastically wrong with our negotiators.As the EDs say either put up or shut up. {Ed002's Note - The hold up is simply that Liverpool has not offered enough.}

I don't think Coutinho wishes to sign for Southampton and Inter need the money so were in a strong position, so long as a 3rd party that Coutinho would sign for doesn't get involved.
On that basis I think we should conclude the deal asap.
kidmillions

Thanks ED002 for reply.Valued opinion as always.
Just wish they would somehow do a deal so we can all move on and talk about something else.

Inter ask £10m our final offer was £8m.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 15:53:09
I read a post about technology and how we can learn from Tennis and it got me thinking about the positives of other sports.

Technology.
In Tennis the atmosphere and enjoyment generated from reviews is great for the spectators at the stadium.
In the NFL the reviews mean for a much higher revenue stream from advertisement. 60 minutes of a game turn into 3 hours of Entertainment, obviously this would be that long in Football as it is less stop-start naturally. IE In NFL they have to set up scrimmage every time but in football it is faster - Surely a guaranteed review for every goal would be better. Make the top leagues more legitimate etc
The same applies with Rugby.

Respect.
In Rugby the players talk to Referees with respect, always calling him Sir and getting a respect back from players.
In the NFL the Referee talks to the crowd explaining every call. Would it be that hard for the Referee to tell the crowd at the time why he gave a penalty or a free kick? This would also help with reviewing Red Cards and stop the Referees from changing their stories.

I know a lot won't come in but I would really like to see Referees explaining their actions after major calls.

Ben Rose

It really works well in tennis. I agree with you, good post.

Adam

I would also like the referee to be able to review a replay before making certain decisions
Cheers stuart

Well you have a point in the respect for the referee and the tennis technology but I think that the flaw of watching NFL and is that there are too many pauses in play, football is different that when there are so many breaks it will be difficult for a club to find good cohesion.
derryred

Ahoy - Ben Rose,

I agree with you fully on the speaking to the Ref - respect issue.

The one I would like to see as per Rugby League is players put "on Report".

Basically an acknowledgement of serious fowl play, but will allow the ref to review after the game and impose the same ban as a sending off.

Would work in situations when it is not a clear sending off - think Shelvey & Jonny Evans - book them both put Shelvey on report and review after the game.

Would also stop ridiculous sendings off.

(I use the word "fowl" rather than "foul" as I am presently eating Lemongrass Chicken Stir Fry)

BOILED ONIONS

An awful lot of free kicks in football are accidental because of the pace of the game. Referees are quite often rightly accused of knowing the rules but not the game, which leads to frustration on the players part.
Rugby on the hand is a much slower stop start game and consequently much easier to referee as 90% of the biting, punching, ear twisting, scrotum twistng and nose breaking happens in a scrum.

cauliflower-ears

I hate to see any major changes happening to the game. Every season they tinker with something or other. Football is perfect how it is. The ironing out of all the faults to try and make things more 'fair' will only remove the passion and debate that forms the greater context. It will become as sterile as lawn bowls.

cozinoz

American Football is a completely different game, with downs and countless defence/offensive changes.

In football this doesn't happen, the NFL isn't stop start due to reviews.

I wouldn't suggest a review of every free kick but primarily big calls. Red cards, goals and penalties. In the run of play in a goal it should have the offsides checked, cross the lines and any hand balls. Penalties would be to stop divers and if they review red cards then it will stop silly reds.

Ben Rose

 

 

25 Jan 2013 15:47:37
I am the only one that thinks its good that we don't pay over the odds anymore for players and try and negotiate our valuation. It wasn't that long ago that we were paying we are paying too much. 35 mill for Carroll and 16 mill for Downing but is coming good now. So lets back our club rather than throw a strop because we have not reached what the selling club wants.

Mighty reds

It is good but I don't want it to go from one extreme to another meaning we will refuse to go near the clubs valuation, which could be the case now.

The Coon

25 Jan 2013 17:26:24
Understand Coon that typically if a club doesn't want a player to leave, they may value him at a 50% increase to scare off potential buyers. See Mc'carthy from Wigan.
If we have a bottom dollar valuation of a player in mind, they should stick to it. Otherwise it wastes everybodys time.

WelshBoyDave

The club doesn't even want to pay for players that fit their supposed own transfer policy now. It's a bit concerning.

Spot on there coon

I think FSG are somewhat scarred by their transfer experience over the last couple of years. In time they might be more willing to take a punt and pay over the odds. As it stands at the moment it seems like they are more focused on standing their ground and sticking with THEIR valuation. This has the potential to come across pretty arrogant to some other clubs!

DJ

 

 

25 Jan 2013 15:36:25
Spurs in for Coutinho might as well forget about him now. They will out bid FSG because their negotiators are ruthless and always try their best to get a target unlike Liverpool who can't afford HP sauce and have to buy Branstons

Always try their best?

I completely forgot Spurs signed Moutinho in the summer. I also forgot we paid £35m for Carroll; we weren't ruthless to get our target then either.

Silly post

Ben Rose

Don't worry - this story was started on rawk as a wind up for spurs fan Ben Rosenthall, who fell for it hook, line, and sinker - he's been tweeting and broadcasters are running with it as fact without checking their sources.

Knowing our record in the transfer market, spurs probably will come in for him...oh well, siht happens.
Digger

You're a fool. 15 million on Allen, 12 on Borini, 12 on Sturridge, 3 on Assaidi, on god knows how much spent on the Sahin loan.
Shall I go back to Dalglish's spending?
35 millon on Carroll, 19 on Downing, 16 on Henderson, 6 on Coates, 6 on Adam. I've probably missed a few out, but that's much more than Tottenham have spent in that period. Our net spend is higher than theirs in that period so don't try and give me that bologne.
I don't understand where this myth that 'FSG haven't put money into transfers' has come from. Of the 5 transfer windows they've been here, in 4 of them we have been one of the highest spending teams in the world.
Daniel YNWA

Is that pickle or sauce because Branston Pickle is dearer than HP sauce!

Lyndon

I hope it's rich and fruity brown, great on a bacon sandwich

Yes but look at the players we've let go, Torres babel, Bellamy kuyt, maxi, and I'm sure there's more I can mention, we sell kuyt for a million quid surely we should got more than that for h?

It hasn't run at spurs! It was rebuffed straight away!

Second only to the legendary chop sauce!
Ginerbolox

"look at the players we've let go, Torres babel, Bellamy kuyt, maxi, and I'm sure there's more I can mention, we sell kuyt for a million quid surely we should got more than that"

Torres went for £50m and has shown nothing of that, he had been playing bad for over a season and a great sale.

Babel was a complete flop with no desire, he has since been released from Germany and is bench warming for Ajax.

Bellamy wanted to leave for Cardiff for his family and that. Likewise with Maxi.

Kuyt was early 30s, had a completely lack of pace or quality coupled with large wages and we did really well to move him on.

Replaced with Borini and Sturridge, a re-emergence of Downing and the introduction of Sterling. Taking about 30 years off of Maxi, Bellamy, Kuyt and Babel. We have also loaned out for about £3m Carroll and scammed Chelsea.

Ben Rose

 

 

25 Jan 2013 15:18:02
What team does Ed007 support? Is it celtic?

Funny you call a 40 gk would "take a step down" to join Liverpool

Your best player is a leyton orient rehect and your league is the equivelent of our league 2

Dnt let a once in a lifetime draw at home with barca (90% possession) get you all giddy

Oh and get your own song as well {Ed007's Note - We actually beat Barca at Celtic Park, you probably missed that watching LFC playing in the CL the same night...oh wait a minute! So are you comfortable singing YNWA which was actually sang first by Man Utd fans, but even they didn't write it, it is from a musical called Carousel, or are you talking about The Fields of Athenry, maybe JCGE....Do you see where this is all going? Jealousy is a terrible thing.}

I apologise on behalf of Liverpool fans to Ed007, what a stupid post.

Ben Rose

I agree it was written by rodgers and hammerstein for carousel, but man united fans didn't sing it on the terraces first, although it was sung in old trafford by three old dears on the pitch as a dirge for the bereaved of the munich air disaster. Liverpool adopted the song in the 60's when it reached number one by liverpudlian band Gerry and the pacemakers, at that time Liverpool fans got in early and sang along to the top ten, and just continued to sing it from then on in. I'm not trying to start an argument because I don't like disrespecting other clubs, but I think i'm right.

Sorry but Jealous of Celtic? Really...

Celtic the first club to offer support after hillsborough, respect eternal friend y.n.w.a jft96
Paisley's genius

Sorry to burst your bubble Ed007 but I don't think many teams are jealous of Celtic.
Respect and admire their support and some of their performances in Europe in recent years but I'm certainly not jealous of them.
They struggled to beat a financially ruined Rangers over the last few years and are only in the European cup because they have no competition to qualify. It's certainly not a step down to join Liverpool from Celtic. In terms of earning higher wages and advancing career prospects, a move to Norwich is a move up from Celtic.

Whoever posted this is a disgrace. What right has anyone got to disrespect Celtic, one of the biggest clubs in the world. They may play in an inferior league but that doesn't automatically make them a smaller club than anyone else. Celtic are a fantastic club who have achieved things well beyond expectations and they should be proud of that and we shouldn't make fun when all that will happen is we'll be embarrassed as ed007 rightly saw to. Have some respect

JR

I thought us and Celtic got on really well and had a good bond, I supported Liverpool for 38years but I always have a soft spot for celtic

How about then ; the winner of the spl (celtic) play the team that finishes 5th yes 5th in the epl and see who gets the spls champion league spot ? if celtic are so good it will be easy for them good extra money for them YEAH RIGHT, now I don't agree with the origional poster and I do agree with various posts saying thanks for your support...............andy.

25 Jan 2013 18:12:33
was the original post about Rab Douglas?

I thought was excellent tongue in cheek humour, I thought we had a sense of humour us Liverpool fans?

Thomas

Clearly a rangers fan who posted this
derryred

Ive plenty of respect for Celtic but none for ed 007 who never gives Liverpool or our fans respect. He's a clever so and so who thinks he knows it all but what the hell this won't get printed but i'd love to have seen his smart arse reply {Ed007's Note - I am heartbroken!! God only knows how I am going to sleep tonight. Give your head a wobble son, is your homework too hard for you or something?}

Edoo7 I like you but you are wrong about man united fans and ynwa any way you sing it very good so good luck to the tags. red mick tag ynwa {Ed007's Note - Thanks Mick, I like you too :-)

I'm not jealous of any team or club.

Respect Celtic as one of the giants of European football.
Keep your Chelsea, Man City and PSG.
I put Celtic alongside Ajax. Great teams when football was about more than just money and SkyTV

Couldnt agree more JR. Celtic are a massive club and a great club. Lisbon lions are legendary and together with Liverpool they have the greatest fans in world football. I think many Barcelona players and fans would agree with that. Liverpool fans have always got on with Celtic fans except when Diouf acted like the person he is. Daglish played for both clubs and we share ynwa. Give respect to Celtic fans. They are our brother club!

Celtic beat Barcelona! not only is the above post disrespectful and embarrassing it also shows an ignorance of football is general. Celtic have some great players like Wanyama, Hooper and their keeper is great. Celtic are a massive club as Barcelona fans and players will testify too. We have a good relationship with Celtic! Did a 5 year old write it?

Celtic usually do alright when they play EPL clubs. In recent seasons they beat Man Utd and they have a massive worldwide fan base. They are a massive club with a much bigger stadium than ours! Yes they play in a worse league but they are on a par with our fans in terms of supporters! Show some respect esp the original poster who I'm ashamed to say is a Liverpool fan!

Celtic beat Barcelona. They didn't draw. Not only is the poster an person but he also knows nothing about football. Would love Wanyama or Hooper in our side. Quality players. Brown is decent as well. I hope the above poster is not seen representative of all Liverpool fans who have built up a reputation for being one of the most knowledgeable and respectful of all fans. Ed 007 don't let this person make you think we are all like that arrogant fool. Celtic are a great club, like our club!

Do people forget how we scrapped past hearts....stop all this talk of a poor leage pls

 

 

25 Jan 2013 14:53:42
Coutinho to Spurs eh? Oh well, onwards and upwards.

Let spurs have him. We had a lucky escape with dempsey and I think coutinho is overrated. Different story if we had been buying an experienced player with proven quality but coutinho was always a gamble

I just don't see where he'd fit in at spurs? dembele, parker, sandro, dempsey, siggurdson, huddlestone & holtby all competing for 3 positions in 4-3-3 midfield next season plus a few youth players coming through too.
the only thing I did consider was the possibility of coutinho replacing bale as an inverted winger if he were to leave come the summer.
s.p

 

 

25 Jan 2013 14:57:50
Sky Italia are apparently running with Spurs interest in Coutinho. Seems we always compete for the same players, any truth in this? Who do you think he would choose?

Cheers lads

I'm calling BS because they already have enough players in that position, just Inter trying to spur (excuse the pun) us to bid more for the lad.

Irish redman

 

 

25 Jan 2013 14:56:20
9th in the income Table
Income based on a lack of CL
20 k extra attendance plus corporate, man united charge 3 years at a time for there boxes.
And here's the main point
Turnover is Vanity
Profit is sanity

Our value on the pitch is rising with all the youngsters values going up, plus the salarys are being capped to reward success not for sitting on the bench. Costs reduced, future spending reduced.., good business sense.
And I personally only want players at the right price on the right salaries and who want to be here.
Let the club get on with it and support all that work for it.
The likes of Hendo and Downing have proven they want to be here, they could have sulked got the pay off and another signing on fee elsewhere, real players and real men.
Pistol Pete

 

 

25 Jan 2013 14:54:31
just proves we've no money to buy players, yeah we got sturridge 12mil, but then we let cole & sahin go but we keep hearing br harping on about how thin our squad is, now were been out bid by southampton for coutinio, its ajoke, idont no our transfer dealings these past few years are so unbelieveably ameture its unreal, why have we got ian ayre in charge of transfer dealings, look what happened the last time, personally ithnk fsg are trying there best to offload us, hence all these players leaving & very little coming in, it seams we can only sign aplayer if we get rid of two players first, its so frustrating, if we don't get top 4 this season suarez will leave no doubt, we wouldn't be far away if we bought atop attacking midfielder & an experienced forward i'd be confident of getting top 4
IRISH RED

The last time we out bid a club for a player that I can remember was carroll and I think it was against spurs. look where that got us. just cause we are not willing to play more then what we value the player for does not mean we have no money. what if qpr offer 25million for him. should we go and offer 26. bidding more than a club does not mean we are a bigger club then them nor does it mean we will finish above them.

KUMBER

 

 

25 Jan 2013 14:22:12
Hi Eds. Realitically when do you believe the Coutinho deal (or lack of) will be resolved? With only 6 days left in the window surely we need to know if we are close and if not would there be any back up plans in place ie going the extra mile for Ince? Based on the summer window I can guess the answer to that!

Jason {Ed002's Note - It will be resolved.}

Brilliant answer. Lol.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 14:07:01
Hi eds, as a daily visitor and site addict I am aware that the only names about are that of Ince, Coutinho and Jeffren. However there was talk from BR and Stevie of the need for expirianced players. Do you know if there is likely to be an approach for any players older than 20? {Ed002's Note - We'll see.}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 13:57:27
What' is the problem coutinho has openly admited to gazzeta dello sport that if he is to be sold he would move to Liverpool but we just can't increase our bid to match southamptons this signing would be a step in the right direction .what is stopping us increasing our bid by 2 million when Rodger has earlier stated that we do have funds available ?

 

 

25 Jan 2013 13:39:28
LFC increase bid for Coutinho to £8 million whereas Southampton's bid for £10.2 million has been accepted by Inter. Coutinho prefer's to go to LFC and sources say that fellow countryman Lucas Leiva's chat will lure Coutinho to LFC. Will this happen? Remains to be seen.

LFC also linked to Ashley Williams of Swansea - he has had a great season so far for Swansea and would be a great addition IF the Anfield outfit get him.

Swansea will screw us for at least another 15mil for AW.

I say let Coutinho go to Southampton and no offence to Southampton let him struggle to find his feet in the EPL in a team fighting against relegation as they have Man U, Wigan and Man City in there next 3 fixtures.

He may then realise that he should have really pushed for a move to LFC.

I know this post is enormously big headed but i'm sick of been linked with players (and their clubs) who have no appreciation of the magnitude and privilege that is playing for LFC even if we are not at the top of the game at this moment in time!

Nath

Please not Williams, likes to run his mouth and just sounds like a "person"

 

 

25 Jan 2013 13:32:53
Whats the weather like in Oldham over the weekend? Don't fancy a midweek trip to that lovely town
FowlerisGod

Grey miserable and drizzly and that's just the town, like stepping back in time into a Hovis Bread advert, but without any sun. {Ed002's Note - The Hovis advert was filmed in Shaftesbury in Dorset.}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 13:17:19
Ed Pls post this..plss
There is a saying..
Once Red always red..

Adebeyor..
Once loan..always loan..

Cant we get him fo cheap..
The guy could be handy..

We can bring him for loan..

he is the master in Loan and will even arrange all the loan papers himself?

Any interest in Adebeyor? {Ed002's Note - No.}

Oh god, please tell me that was a joke. If yes, LOL HILARIOUS!
RedSox69

 

 

25 Jan 2013 13:16:19
Hi Ed's

It seems some people on this site are unable to grasp (ill informed, not educated or just plain stupid when it comes to FFP) the way LFC and other clubs need to operate with Financial Fair Play so I would appreciate the Ed's to either tell me if I am

1. Wrong
or
2. Right

about the following.

Owners of clubs are not allowed to fund the club i.e. take money out of their own pockets and pay bills, wages or transfer fees ect but can spend their own money when it comes to youth academies and Stadiums.

Surely it cannot be that difficult to understand that FSG cannot use their owm money to buy players? The club (LFC) under Financial Fair Play Rules needs to to fund all wages, transfer fees and every day bills out of revenue made by the club without assitance coming from FSG in the form of cash.

Those who keep on lashing out at FSG for not having ambition because they are to greedy to pay an extra 2 million for a player need to get their facts straight before making daft and BS comments unless they are 100% sure of how FFP works.

LFC (the club) needs to live within it's mean and to make a long story short Financial Fair Play relates to breaking even by the club which means that LFC (the club) cannot not spend more than what LFC earns.

So Ed's, I await your answer of whether I am wrong or right so that we can educate the uneducated.

Thanks

Max {Ed002's Note - Sorry Max, you are a little way off the mark but not too far. If you want to know about the FFP rules type FFPR in to the search box above.}

Thanks for that Ed002

Now the opportunity is there for people to go look up the facts about how clubs are allowed to spend money instead of just accusing FSG of being clueless.

At least I am not completely wrong about my assesment but clearly others on this site cannot see the wood for the trees.

Max

Serious question, What happens when the owners sponsor their own team just like PSG have done? fair play goes out the window?

K-Man {Ed002's Note - I guess you didn't read the item then?}

FFP will never work do you really see them punishing the real madrid's, man cities of this world for over spending. Pretty sure most football teams are in debt but just keep spending money. Even united who win trophies almost every year and have a huge stadium are in debt. FFP will never happen

I love it when people speak about other clubs being in violation of FFP. Do they not realize we are one of the violators as well?

 

 

25 Jan 2013 13:14:21
Excellent article on Liverpool Jay( link on lfc live) if anyone interested. YNWA Simonpw

 

 

25 Jan 2013 12:52:40
25 Jan 2013 10:36:01
common...sturridge scored 3 goals..from tap ins...not from 25 yard...

_______________________________________

Do you have a clue about football?

The reason Liverpool have fallen so far behind in the table, is because we don't have a player always breaking into the box, and poaching goals. All the fans have done is moan all season about how there is nobody attacking the penalty area, and we get someone who does it, and does it well, then moan because he doesn't shoot from 25 yards?!

He is the first player i've seen follow a shot in to score since probably Torres. His goals against Manchester United and Norwich were classic strikers goals.

Hang on a minute, I'm just going to go onto the United page, and see if they are mad at Hernandez for not being able to hit a 30 yard belter.............................................................................Nope, they are just happy his poachers goals have given them the edge over Manchester City.

If you had watched Sturridge play, you'd see is link up play is sensational, and his timing and positioning are up there with the very best.

No pipe down, and just enjoy the fact our build up play, finally has an end product, and we don't have to rely on pop shots from Gerrard, or individual runs from Suarez.

YNWA! (Adam)

Some people just can't see the priest on the mountain of sugar...jdog

25 Jan 2013 15:20:35
No dude..I haven't passed the PHD in football which You passed I am guessing...
Do you have any idea why chelsea sold sturridge??
23, england, young, proven, with all the nnecessary qualities...y would a club sell such a talent....
Any clue??
Dont ever say he wasnt getting a game....
Torres is and were failing misserably and this guy wasnt even getting a game...
He is not an extra ordinary talent..
A plain simple striker like bellamy...has got pace...simple as that...
Now send me the textbooks and notebooks of the PHD which you passed in football

25 Jan 2013 15:22:29
is he better than Jovetic?
Is he better than Sanchez?
Is he better than Mirallas?
Have you seen these players perform..Not exactly strikers..
Link up, movment, dribble..
They are quality

To 15.20.35 poster.
i know you being american and new to this sport and all but you can't get a phd in football. sorry. a few years ago sturridge went on loan to a team called Bolton, I know they are not in the premiership any more but they were back then. this is the only time he got a consistent run of games through the middle. to you this would be the striker position. he scored 8 goals(touch downs) in about 12 games. that is a fantastic strike rate for a 21year old.

torres was picket before sturridge at chelsea because roman demands that torres plays other wise he would look a mug.

KUMBER

ps
you can find bolton in a place called the championship.

Dear "dude with no name",

Yes the above mention is class and quality no doubt but if it gets you 3 points everytime Dani Sturridge scores be it an ugly goal (less than 5 yards) or tap ins, you'd be happy wouldn't you? Someones got to do the scraping and rubbish work, don't you think? Nope, I don't have a PHD in Football but I do know what gets us those 3 points, and it's with goals (ugly or a beauty).

RedKei

How about a tie breaker from a guy that knows just a little bit about scoring goals. John Aldridge on Danny Sturridge and his first few "tap-in's"--

"I was delighted with the goal he got. As a former striker, who scored goal after goal in that manner, it was great to see that movement and instinct from a young player.

"How many times in recent seasons have we seen shots like that bounce off the 'keeper or off the post and go to safety? Not with Sturridge. He was on it in a flash, twice as quick as Rafael, and Liverpool need that kind of sharpness and smartness around the penalty area."

It already seemed obvious to me that Studge added that extra dimension that our forward line was missing. Never crossed my mind that any LFC fans would be complaining that he doesn't score 25 yard belters and that he shouldn't be praised for the tap-ins he ha scored so far for us.

Just ask a real top level striker. You can't teach goal scoring instincts. Sure, you can train the player tactically, you can work on his movement, ball control, shooting and finishing and make him better but you either have or don't have that instinct to make that run a split second before anyone else, or move 6 steps towards the back-post, front-post, penalty spot when others are watching the ball, or make that run before the ball is crossed that ends up making it look like an easy goal.

Is he the best striker on the planet, no of course not. Is he exactly what we needed at this moment in time? Perhaps.

SpudRed

 

 

25 Jan 2013 12:32:46
Hi Eds just posted this before, totally forgot about Chelsea.. Doh! This is the revised if you decide to publish.


THE LEAGUE AS IT WOULD LOOK FROM THE 6TH
GAME ONWARDS.
..................P...W....D...L...F......A....PTS
Manutd......18..14....2...2...45....24....44
City..........18..13....3...2...35....12.....42
Spurs........18..10....3...5...32....22.....33
Liverpool...18....9.....5...4...36....18....32
Chelsea.....18...9.....5...4...38....20....32
Arsenal.....18...8.....4....6...37....25....28
Everton....17...5.....9....3...24.....23...24

kidmillions

We would be below Chelsea on Goals Scored :(

Ben Rose

Unfortunatelywe have to gain 7 points on spurs who are above us even in this league

 

 

25 Jan 2013 12:47:43
If there was a Premier League for "Best Dithering over a signing" ....LFC would be running away with it.
I have been told by a friend who knows a Liverpool Echo columnist that all this Coutinho transfer talk is rubbish. This will drag on until deadline day when we will announce the Ince signing ONLY. This is Ian Ayre's way of showing Liverpool fans that we are in the market for this player and that player, when clearly we are not. Reminiscent of the last window don't you think?!
Redman12

 

 

25 Jan 2013 12:31:23
Ffs 1.2 m supposedly the difference in Coutinho valuation. in big scheme of things=Nothing!

Wrong, in the scheme of things 1.2 million that would be better spent on his his wages, rather than pay over the odds for a player who sits on a bench at best.

Over half a % of the clubs annual turnover!

So it is a lot of money and a big deal

Unless your playing football manager again!!


Lyndon

In sensible FFP money management terms that 1.2m might mean the difference in bringing in 2 new signings instead of one. And if we buy the 2nd signing for the right price, it may mean a new loan signing can fit in the FFP budget plan as well.

Actions have permutations and knock down effects.

SpudRed

 

 

25 Jan 2013 12:26:08
Hi eds and Reds, IMO I think LFC wil bring in two more players(a midfielder and a defender).Most likely Coutinho I believe. v are linked with many defenders not sure who(Mirin, Diakite, Federico Fazio).And a dead line deal for Thomas Ince.
Many say Coutinho is not gud, this is the same thing you guys told for Sturridge(12m), now how much do you rate him?? huh?? I believe its the same with Coutinho and he wil make an immediate impact if signed. Stop judging players b4 they play in a RED shirt.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 12:21:44
Hi Guys,

Not a Liverpool topic but a subject related to football in general.

Im your classic pub football fan and have been arguing the toss with young and old over a pint of Cask Ale over technology being bought into the game. Lots of people are for it as it would make the game fair and with football now being so heavily influenced by money, it only makes sence to bring it into the game right?

Others however, feel its not necessary and are under thr impression our game would become stop start like American football and the other opinion is our back pages of the news papers would have nothing interesting in it as controversy is part of why the game is so enthralling.

I personally think football should be run like a game of tennis. The idea would be to give each team 3 challenges per game. These challenges can be used for any decision from a throw in to a penalty or even a bad tackle. The replay is then used to detirmine wether the challenge/apeal is successful or not. Once you use your challenges up then that's it.

I personally can't see any faults in the idea. In a weird kind of way, its a similar idea to the substitution rule that was bought in...

Id be keen to know what everyones thoughts are.

Cheers

Apples ;96;

The obvious fault is that if a referee gives 4 bad decisions in a game against the same team then it doesn't solve the problem. I'm willing to bet United get 4 dodgy decisions for them in any given match; so each time they'd just get away with the 4th.

Red Ollie

My initial thoughts, not a bad idea at all.
Offside is the one that's difficult, if the referee and linesman call it wrong? There's no going back.
kidmillions

What is wrong with American Football?

60 minutes of a match is converted into 3 hours of Entertainment. Adverts during the time-outs etc makes for a far higher Television Profits for the teams.

A lot can be learned from other sports like the NFL, Tennis and Rugby.

Ben Rose

Someone told me (the eds can say if it's true or not!), that in the Bundesliga if there is, for example, a hand ball incident that the officials didn't see, the ref asks the offending player if it struck his hand. If the player says no it didn't hit his hand, and tv replays shows it did, the player gets a ban. The same goes for diving - the player gets asked if there was contact, if he lies, he gets a ban for the next match.

As I say, I don't know if this is true or not, but it seems like a good idea to me. Won't slow the game down, and might bring a bit more respect to refs and players alike.

Nick {Ed002's Note - It is true of Germany and Switzerland.}

Great rule really is. that with goal line tec would make the game much fairer iom the only thing would be offsides.


KUMBER

Nick, Ed002

That system sounds excellent TBF I didn't know it existed in those leagues. Easy to implement, wouldn't slow down play and pretty soon players would naturally start to play in a more 'honest manner' as they know they will be questioned by the ref if it looks dodgy.

I think the tennis style technology could be a good system but if we could clean up the game without involving techology (by using the German method) all the better.

Does anyone watch mutch Bundesliga to see if it works well?

Gav

And what if you say it was the hand of God?

 

 

25 Jan 2013 12:14:52
HOW MUCH HAVE WE REALLY IMPROVED ?
The fixture's at the beginning of the Season was to put it mildly not kind to us.
West Brom away proved to be a difficult game and not just for Liverpool. 3-0
City the current Champions at home we turned a win into a draw with Skyrtel's slip. 2-2
Sunderland away proved to be a dissapointing draw. 1-1
Arsenal at home we lacked confidence and looked lethargic 0-2 says it all.
At home to Manutd we played well to a point but we struggle to convert chances 1-2
If we were to take away these disastrous first 5 games and start the season from the 6th game?
How well have we recovered and how do we compare to our main rivals?
So let's see, I have compiled the league from the 6th game onwards; as you will see, we have recovered quite well and have been playing top 4 football from that point.
So the answer to the Question have we improved is definitely a resounding YES!
Now we ask the Question " Can we find even more improvement with the acquisition of Sturridge and ?
To break into the top 4 Really; before the season ends? It's possible..I believe.

THE LEAGUE AS IT WOULD LOOK FROM THE 6TH
GAME ONWARDS.
............P....W....D...L...F......A....PTS
Manutd..18..14....2...2...45....24.....44
City.......18..13...3...2....35....12.....42
Spurs.....18..10...3...5...32.....22.....33
Liverpool.18...9...5....4...36....18.....32
Arsenal...18...8...4....6...37....25.....28
Everton...17...5...9...3....24....23.....24

kidmillions

So over the last 18 league games we have played as well as Chelsea and Spurs and better than Arsenal and Everton.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 11:55:59
i don't like how were allways putting the players in tough posistions, we did the same with Dempsey we give them every indication we want, then drag out the deal and end up making them move elsewhere - not nice at all lately... if you want someone pay the price or let them be

 

 

25 Jan 2013 11:12:56
Hey ed's. Why don't we buy coutinho for £10m and loan him to so'ton for £500,000 for the rest of the season like the zaha deal. Everyone is a winner? Scouse red

 

 

25 Jan 2013 11:20:40
Just another thought on the coutinho saga. Will he get a work permit? and how? he's only played for the national team once in 2010 and he's not a regular 1st team player. i'm not sure what the exact criteria is but I thought you had to be an international or a player of exceptional talent? Your thoughts would be aprreciated ED's maybe i'm far off the Mark?
thanks {Ed001's Note - that is an issue. He would certainly fail to meet the normal criteria and it would have to be appealed on the basis of him being an 'exceptional talent'.}

Lucas signed with one. If he was able to sign then I'm sure someone with International experience will be able to.

BthekingB

And you know for sure that it isn't BR's valuation of the player.

If he signs for LFC, we could get him to marry a local scouse girl and then he would be a UK national and he could even play for England. If he turns out to be a crap footballer we could sell him at an overrated price as British Football talent.

manwithaplan

Isn't there some drivel about Brazilians counting as Portuguese and Portugal is an EU country. {Ed002's Note - Of course not.}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 11:20:01
Our transfer deals are a joke a club like Liverpool getting outbid by southamption faur enough that's clearly how much we value him at so no point overspending but the manager wants a player go and get him back brendan rodgers my god!
Being overly cautious because of dalglish spending mistakes got to take calculated risks

Get your facts right, being outbid means we could not go higher due to a lack of funds for that deal, however if LFC are placing a value on that target and not going past it then it means that we are doing good business as we are not leaving ourselves open to the Andy Carrol drama we expereinced,

so before you get upset with the club rather understand that we now have a proper recruitment policy, if a player is so much hot property, then LFC would value him correctly, but if teams are using under handed tactics to help drive up the price of their player then I am very much comfortable with LFC walking away.

I remember when we used to be a big club and players would not hesitate to come to our club - not any more - very sad.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 11:11:40
Wow. I am amazed at how so many fans know the intimate details of the proposed Coutinho bid. Do you all work for the club?

I personally don't see it happening. Since BR took over, mathematically we need to get rid of two players to be in a position to sign one. Cole and Sahin departure allowed for Sturridge to come in. We'd have to lose Downing and Ngoo (or other prospect) to free up wages. My 'math' is simply based on the number of new players signed and the number of players sold or loaned in the past year.

Wilson and Ngoo

So how do you know that that's what we need to do?! Do you know the clubs finances? I personally would look at the departures of Cole and Sahin and think that maybe they left because they weren't contributing enough on the pitch.

Your math makes no sense because he was just getting rid of over paid players, people he didn't need ect... Now we have a thin squad and to continue this 2 out 1 in, would be absurd.

Last time I looked it was called a rumour site which if you don't know what that means then you should not be on the site

I think you're absolutely right, there is no way that all of these people could possibly know what is going on when there are media professionals who haven't got a clue. So all of the supposed itk's out there give it a rest eh?

I'm amazed at how much you know about maths.

redmersey

These are Rumour and Banter pages, plus your saying everyone must work for the club as they all know the ins and outs of the Coutinho dealings and then proceed to tell us what club policy is regarding transfers, only on this site, love it

K-Man

 

 

25 Jan 2013 10:47:14
The Football Money League

1. Real Madrid - 513m euro
2. Barcelona - 483m euro
3. Man Utd - 396m euro
4. Bayern - 368m euro
5. Chelsea - 323m euro
6. Arsenal - 290m euro
7. Man City - 286m euro
8. AC Milan - 257m euro
9. Liverpool - 233m euro
10. Juventus - 195m euro

Regardless of Fifa Fair Play rules, we are not even in the ball park to compete with Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea.

They generate 122m, 118m, 96m in match day revenue and we generated 56m.

That puts Man Utd 66m ahead of us purely in stadium benefits.

Sad to say whilst we have a stadium that barely holds 45 thousand and they have one that holds 75 thousand is full all the time, there is not a snowballs chance in hell we are going to mount a sustain era of competitive brilliance.

FSG may make the company more profitable than it was by the previous owners, but they will sure as hell not make it a team that delivers silverware of any stature.

25 Jan 2013 11:57:52
Who wasted all the money on stadium designs? Oh yeh Gillet and Hicks. Who nearly bankrupted the club? Once again Gillett and Hicks. Who saved LFC from Gillett and Hicks? Oh yeh FSG. Did you forget this before you drew up your pretty little post. Also, FSG paid off over 100M of LFC'S debt when they took over. If it wasn't for FSG the club would be in a dire financial state. Think about that before you make stupid comments about where the clubs going. Just because United hate their American owners doesn't mean Lfc have to.

Have you been living under a rock the past 5 months?
AnfieldUSA

I think you should note that we are still keeping up yet aren't in the champions league and finished lower than 6th last year, in that context out revenue shows that we are still a big club, now imagine what we would be if we were in the champions league and got a top 4 finish? Lets not be completely negative glass is still half full.

Success brings money, as does the CL. Man City were not even close to this list before they got middle eastern oil rich owners and getting noticed in the world like that brings money. Winning = money. Say we came 4th two years running, we'd probably jump a little higher on this list.

ChrisMiz

I love these positive posts! You failed to mention the crippling debt that United have that the extra 66m is actually paying for! Plus the fact that FSG are actively looking at ways to increase our capacity and therefore our matchday income to a level where we can compete. It's called growing the business you person! {Ed002's Note - Manchester United do not have a "crippling debt".}

Not until we renovate anifield will we be on a even keel maybe we should charge man city fans 65 quid for an away ticket they pay it for arsenal lol

 

 

25 Jan 2013 09:22:24
More questions than rumours. Firstly, I've heard that squads that have large numbers of foreign players that all speak the same language (in Newcastles squad, French) can make other players feel isolated as the French speakers will all talk in French. Do you think this might cause problems and make some players want to leave? Useful squad players in people like Santon and Krul would be a great shout if Reina leaves, just wonder what your opinion on a Newcastle exodus is.

Second question is about Ngoo and Wilson - just wondering if you know of any longer term partnership agreement with them or have we just sent two boys because of their transfer embargo making it a good chance?

Thanks for all the hard work!
LondonRed {Ed001's Note - it can happen, but most clubs find ways round it, normally fining players that aren't speaking English and making the players mix together during meals and away trips. Such as rooming a French player with an English one etc. Impossible to say if it will cause problems, I don't know what arrangements Newcastle have in place regarding that.
Regarding Ngoo and Wilson, it was just a chance to ensure some players that were on the fringes got valuable first team experience. It gives us the chance to assess them and decide if they have a future with us or not.}

I had heard that Newcastle were jokingly being referred to as chateauxnuef, so if they get relegated does that make then chateauxnuef de crap?

Krul and Santon will NOT leave Newcastle for Liverpool - why move to a smaller club? I also know that Enrique would walk back to Newcastle, he has never settled in Liverpool.

How are Newcastle a big club? Please explain that one? I thought the poster who said Di Santo was a good young player was joker of the day, but no sir it is you, congratulations take a bow ...

Enrique, Carroll, history and league position would argue about Newcastle being a bigger club

cozinoz

 

 

25 Jan 2013 10:28:37
3.5 million bid for wisdom as newcastle try and escape the drop

john

Nurse, John needs his medication.

He's not French.

Yea what ever, Wisdom signed a new deal less than 2 months ago is a regular starter and will be a great player for us.

BigD

Can have his wisdom tooth for that price

How can they, he's not french!

Maybe with his name being andre
pardew thought he was french

25 Jan 2013 14:49:28
Says a lot about the lad and how far he's come that we wouldn't consider a 3.5 million bid.
Whether the club would think about it or not I don't know. But nice to see him appreciated.
Seems to be rare to find, these days!
WelshBoyDave

 

 

25 Jan 2013 10:26:35
Heard that jack butland is close to signing £4M deal. I could see Reina leave this window. Good deal if Reina wants to leave for home and butland the future england keeper coming in! What you think?

I'd doubt he'd be that cheap.

How can Butland be the future England keeper??
Hart is not in his mid-30's.
If we desperately need a new keeper than Begovic should top the list.
Butland is a risky appointment. Very risky.
Stoffe

Id prefer Marc Ter Stegan if Reina leaves, Butland will be a good Keeper but a lot of people have said he is not ready to make the step up as an EPL No.1 ..

BigD

Absolutely not.

ND

25 Jan 2013 19:51:36
Butland could crack under the pressure if put straight in as first choice (he's even less experienced than de Gea was when he joined United), and I don't think Jones is good enough as first choice.

Bad move to replace Reina with Butland, imo.

- Something Red -

25 Jan 2013 19:19:48
I think you should look at proven keepers in the EPL, I would look at Begovic or Mignolet. JIR 63

 

 

25 Jan 2013 10:25:31
downing unhappy with his game time and set to move in the summer

Not what he's been saying in LFCTV interviews on the site.

Is this the same Downing that has said of his happiness at his form and his want to stay at our club for many years?

Is this the same Downing that has played in 27 games this season, starting the previous 10?

Tristan

Damn those people making me play every game. That's it, I have had enough, I will find a team that will let me sit on the bench.
NGF1

Except he said that the other day he hopes that he can see out his contract at Liverpool and ever since he was told by Rodgers he can leave he's played better and has started the majority of the last 10 games but also thinks its good for competition in the squad and he just has to keep playing well to stay in the team.

Perth Red

 

 

25 Jan 2013 10:22:16
gerrard speaks to his manager saying he never wants to play for his country again and he wants to focus the last few years at Liverpool

toby

We wish, but no chance

He wants to reach beckham's CAPS record

Mmm lets see, Beckam record in his sights, england captain, best form in years and 100% league app's this season. You couldn't make this stuff up. Oh wait you just did lmao !YNWA Simonpw

Except only the other day he said he's got beckhams record for most appearances for an out field English player in his sights.

Perth Red

Gerrard has stated many times that he would never turn his back on his country.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 10:02:33
I know the Geordies have signed 5 Frenchmen in this transfer window but three of them are really good players. Debuchy is a very good right back, Mbiwa, a central defender, was captain of the French champions last year and Sissoko is a terrific midfield player. These three were bought for a total of £14m and are all current French internationals. Great work by their scout Graham Carr. And to think we paid more for Allen alone. Where is our scouting system?

Why don't we sign Graham Carr?

Good post. I agree that these three are very good players indeed and I admire the Geordies for bringing them in for £14m instead of paying over-inflated prices for players in this country.

We paid more for Allen, we paid more for Downing, we paid more for Henderson, we paid two and a half times more for Carroll!!

Mbiwa and Sissoko are really good players and they are only 22 years old. Why could we not find these players?

25 Jan 2013 10:20:52
maybe they are not as good as you imagine.
it could be like for M'vila (he was supposed to be the super player and none of the big teams who kept an eye on him for years made a move sufficient enough to sign him).

Here we go...

What matters most as a fan is who is higher up in the table

25 Jan 2013 10:28:53
our scouting system is in italy mate..
common..joe allen..is xavi...

Our scouts are more like his son Alan Carr

Just say though that each of the five players are on £50k a week. That's an annual wage bill of £12.5m for them. Add on the initial transfer fees, agents, etc etc. You're looking at a £30m outlay in year 1 alone, mate.
That's about what a club might earn for a CL place, which Newcastle won't.
So stop crying, and see what happens in the next week of the window.
The Juicer

A lot of reds were saying this kind of thing last season, demba ba has left after a little over a season & a half papis cisse has dipped in form at this moment in time & if these players who they have signed recently play play well on a personal level but Newcastl fail to avoid relegation they will look to move away or Newcastle then have players on big wages but without premiership revenue it appears to be a gamble which may or may not pay off
Paisley's genius

They haven't played yet you don't know how good they will be. You need to stop watching highlights off youtube. Do you not think its odd how no big team has gone for any of these players? Ben Arfa loads of injuries and in the best part of 3 seasons in all competitions he's only played in 48 games and now he wants to leave. Obertan runs and runs and he's fast, that's it and then there's Marveaux who since he signed has had a couple of decent games but he's not as great as everyone on here thought 2 years ago. The only French player that's loved at Newcastle is Cabaye but everyone feels if things don't pick up he'll be off. The Newcastle fans I know hope they are as good as everyone thinks but they also fear that if they don't settle in quick enough it might be too late.
MisterS.

They could all be getting relegated with the geordies too!

FSG sacked the scouting network when they appointed Commolli. They took a view that Commollis contacts in various country's would save on flight expenses etc. in other words they were happy to take advice from a third party with a possible vested interest in a player just too, on the face of it, save on costs.

Ozone

 

 

25 Jan 2013 09:41:26
Surely the club has learned its lesson from the fiasco of the last transfer window? Squad was left thin with more players out than in by gambling on signing players on the last day of transfer window and IMO it has cost us at least 6 points in the table and a possible place in CL. They need to be a tad more ruthless in signing their targets and I know a lot will disagree but Dempsey could have given us that little bit more experience required to push for a top four place as he has proven he is capable of scoring vital goals, here's hoping we have learned and and get our targets before deadlin day!

I said previously, waiting until the last day to to deals could be a very clever management tool in regards to lessening your spending
If a deal or two doesn't come off, then it just looks like we worked hard but the targets didn't come through and we would have to wait to the next transfer window.

Waiting until the last day is not a very clever management tool in regards to lessening your spending you only have to look to the last window to be proven wrong that is the point! It doesn't work that way anymore I admire Newcastle's policy in fairness they bring in 4/5 players for 15 mil or thereabouts and 3 of them are not half bad at all but you can be guaranteed they will recoup that money in a season on one of those players alone! Liverpool need to speculate and be a bit more ruthless than hedgeing their bets on the last day of season!

 

 

25 Jan 2013 09:31:36
If Rodgers tries to sign someone out of his depth in spl it will be the last thing he does as manager of Lfc ! The boy is not even rated in scotland, has no special abilility to mention, l tries hard tho ! Got to be reply of the day ! Obviously a sad hearts fan

 

 

25 Jan 2013 09:31:16
Liverpool HAVE lost out on Coutinho to Southampton as we won't match Inters valuation of the player.

We will sign Thomas Ince a player who won't add anything more to our squad as he is a good Championship player at best.

With regards to Ince surely there are better players and cheaper options in Europe and across the globe not over inflated British players. Our scouts need to do there job properly and unearth a gem.

Marc

Inter can't force the player to go to Southampton.
redfox

Ofcourse you can't force a player to join, but then again you don't need to buy rubbish players just cause you try to lowbid for better players. Then end up with a worde player that're more expensive. Brittish players are rediculous overrated and expensive.

25 Jan 2013 10:30:46
but inter can convince the player to join southampton..than sitting in the bench...
its simple..if inter get the money they want...they would say straight to countinho and his agen to move...simple as that....or..you would never play football with inter...
can then do that??

If they freeze coutinho out who would they play? They need the money to replace wes

Also works the other way, inter don't want him on the bench taking a salary up that they want for Paulinho or Belhanda so may settle for a lower fee to be able to do what they need to do, ultimately Coutinho could make a transfer request to come to us and then make Southampton's bid pointless anyway.

FSG said we have the funds if there is a player we really want. As far as I am aware this quote is true, I think it was Tom Werner who said it.

Rodgers obviously wants Coutinho but FSG don't appear to want to pay the asking price and would rather see him go to another club.

So it appears that they can say one thing and do another. I don't trust people like that. I'm not expecting unrealistic limitless funds splashed out but the Liverpool fans need to see some investment (without selling from a thin squad as it is). Otherwise they risk being tarred with the same brush as the dreaded H & G.

redmersey

25 Jan 2013 14:57:35
We will sign Thomas Ince a player who won't add anything more to our squad as he is a good Championship player at best.

Repeat after me....

I'm a topiary, I'm a topiary. I am an incredibly big topiary.

Far far better stats than Zaha, and United are looking at spending £15 million on him.
Are they also signing a player who won't add anything and is championship quality?

It's fans like you who drag our name down. He hasn't even signed and your already slagging him off.

How many Blackpool games have you watched this season? What are his strengths? What are his weaknesses?

WelshBoyDave

 

 

25 Jan 2013 09:22:33
Not a rumour, I Just want to say that I think they are doing a cracking job with the Transfers. We can't afford to be paying over the odds for players anymore. Ayre and his team have done a great job in this window of showing that just because we want a player we are not going to buy him at any price. They have gone as far as they value a player then left it there. This will stand us in good stead for future transfer targets as teams will realise we arent going to pay silly money.

25 Jan 2013 10:33:35
ehat did ayre done cracking in this window..and showed us what?
bought a player from chelsea...for 12 mill..which was actually his value set by chelsea...
Nonsene..have ayre..bought messi for 20 mill?
nothing...we are still behind countinho...from weeks...

25 Jan 2013 10:40:33
Thank you for your input mr werner.

I agree to a certain extent. For a while we've had a reputation which said "Slap another few million on, it's Liverpool. These mugs always pay over the odds" . It will take a few windows of smart spending and missing out on targets ( Dempsy etc.) for us to get a reputation of setting our value and sticking to it. This will help us in the long term but we will still have the option of going higher than our valuation if a special player comes along.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 09:14:50
luciano becchio to be signed by Liverpool after handing in a transfer request at leeds :)

tobias

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...........joke post of the day

 

 

25 Jan 2013 09:00:58
Hi Eds, Would it be possible to add one more page to the site where you can put updates of current rumours like that of Coutinho. Since there are lots of posts coming in, your comments go down the page very fast and people are not good at searching. They keep on asking same question again and again.
Regds... {Ed002's Note - We tried putting them at the top of the page and it didn't help.}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 08:44:39
the eveident signing of ash williams will be grear for team morale... especially with his comments with suarez..

come on.. journo's must have pretty good leads, resulting in linking rogers to every player he has coached or been in the same room as.

aussiepool tristan

 

 

25 Jan 2013 08:41:39
if coutinho goes to southampton then fair enough, but he will have a small buy out/relegation clause due to their position, not fussed either way if we get him or not. He is obvioulsly very talented but he hasn't exactly set the world alite so far and if inter are willing to let him go then it can't be for financial gain as they line up a more expensive replacement.

Dunno i'd never seen him play till he was linked with us, dunno about everyone else. our midfield has looked not too bad of late, although norwich let us have the ball so its easier to play with less presure.

id like to know wat others think... would you prefer fancy pants NANI trickery or old school solid play like YAYA?

aussiepool tristan

 

 

25 Jan 2013 06:51:55
Hi Ed002,
it`s not about transfers, just a thought on Sterling. After he signed a new contract he`s been playing poor football. {Ed002's Note - I cannot imagine the two are related. He is young and perhaps he needs to be used sparingly.}

He needs to be rested more otherwise we might have another Jack Wiltshire on our hands with injuries.

BigD

 

 

25 Jan 2013 08:30:05
Liverpool's Steven Gerrard insists he has no regrets about rejecting a move to Chelsea during Jose Mourinho's time at Stamford Bridge - but admits it was "very close" to happening.

Gerrard, who has been at the Merseyside club since he was eight years old, has expressed thanks to the club for remaining loyal to him when he came so close to departing.

"It is the club I have supported since I was a boy and I'm in such a privileged position to captain the team, " said the 32-year-old.

"It [a move to Chelsea] was very close but I have no regrets and am absolutely delighted I stayed loyal to Liverpool.

"A lot of people talk about my loyalty to Liverpool but what rarely gets mentioned is Liverpool's loyalty to me.


"I've been there since I was eight and the contracts kept coming, the love kept coming, they have always supported me on and off the pitch.

"A football career is like a roller coaster, it is up and down and you learn from your mistakes on and off the pitch.

"But no matter what I have done I've always had fantastic people around me at the club.

"I think Liverpool deserve a big thank you from myself for the loyalty they have shown to me."

Stevie G legend...............andy.

Yeah yeah billy liar! he can't very well say anything else can he?. I mean he, s over the hill now and defo won't say anything to jeoperdise extending his contract with lfc, no harm to the guy, but what other big team would want him now ?, assuming you can regard lfc as a big team nowadays.also its very strange strange how lfc let torres go to a prem title rival and where willing to let gerrard do the same yet I've seen plenty of scousers on here slobbering cause arsenal sold rvp to a rival, total scouser hypocrites!.

25 Jan 2013 12:41:23
How can you make negative comments about SG. Are you mad or a manc? Over the hill and nobody would want him. Yeh the skipper of LFC and England wouldn't get into another side would he you muppet! Don't post your un-educated views on here. You clearly haven't got a clue what your talking about.

And your club is?
Plenty of clubs would want Gerrard still, Man utd included.
Liverpool sold Torres to a rival as you so call them because every player has a price Ronaldo 80 million, RVP 25 million Rooney 25 million I could go on, and if someone was stupid enough to bid 50 million for him that's their business.

'also its very strange strange how lfc let torres go to a prem title rival and where willing to let gerrard do the same yet I've seen plenty of scousers on here slobbering cause arsenal sold rvp to a rival, total scouser hypocrites!'

Have you been braindead since birth or did you hit your head earlier in your life?

Liverpool let Torres go to Chelsea after he handed in a transfer request. A lot of fans will never forgive him for that. This is exactly why a lot of Liverpool fans dislike RVP, for leaving Arsenal to join a rival.

Sort your head out before you hurt yourself, otherwise invest in a helmet and wear it at all times.

JFT 96

JP

Well Torres flopping in such spectacular fashion has shown that the grass isn't greener, after all doesn't Judas Torres look sooooooo happy playing at Chelsea ...

 

 

25 Jan 2013 08:29:25
They seek him here,
They seek him there,
Us scousers seek him everywhere.
Is he in Milan,
Is he in Lisbon,
That Damned Elusive Ian Ayre.
Sooner or later,
He'll have to come back,
As we need Coutinho,
In our attack.

kidmillions

Did someone spike millions' cornflakes?

Very good ! think you need to get out more though !;)...........andy.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 08:16:00
Hi eds
Great site. Could you tell me what the money from the donate button is spacifically used for. I'd like to donate but would like more info first.
Thanks {Ed002's Note - As far as I understand it is used for the servers and the software that sit behind the site.}

 

 

25 Jan 2013 08:09:15
I work in Birmingham and talk a lot with Blues fans. The general opinion is that Butland is NOT ready for a top-level premiership team but that he would almost certainly want 1st team football.

With this in mind I think it would be a huge gamble to sign him and would prefer us to look elsewhere.

Mar Ter Stegan we should be looking at.

BigD

 

 

25 Jan 2013 07:29:48
Ive been reading the posts and seen quite a few people think coutinho isn't that good and they'd be happy if we missed out on him. I would just like to ask them who they think we could get in for the same amount of money and don't even mention ince or jefferen jefferen can't even get his place in a poor lisbon side in a poor league and ince the same player we got rid of for buttons and is doing ok in the championship. Before you ask I have seen a decent amount of coutinho last season in la liga to make me think he would be a good buy and we should stop messing about and stump up the extra 2 mill or so to get him.

La Liga? Don't you mean Series A {Ed001's Note - he was on loan at Espanyol last season.}

25 Jan 2013 11:29:50
How many times has he played this season for Inter? And the player who's keeping him out of the inter side wouldn't get into Lfc's starting 11 so what's the point in signing him?

 

 

25 Jan 2013 07:28:40
Rogers said our side was a very thin after the summer clear out.

If the only signing this window is DS and we have already let 3 players leave with the possibility of Coates going as well........where does it say the club are financially?

Not that I think we should sign players just to beef up the side but with an already thin squad why did we let the likes of Cole (paid off and could have waited until the summer) go?

If it ends up as we are our side is even thinner than it was and begs the question are we back in Financial trouble?

SO

25 Jan 2013 11:38:11
Cole was a 100k a week bench warmer so i'm glad that he's off our books. Lfc are not in any sort of financial trouble and the way it looks to me is we wasted lots of money last season on players, namely Carroll. A business can't sustain that sort of spending without success. Now is the time to do exactly what Lfc are currently doing and that's play hard ball in the transfer market. When BR came on as Manager the fans and the board said that they would give him time. All I hear is people going on about getting Champs league this season. If we don't get it will people start saying that BR's first season is a failure. Frankly I think BR has done a great job up to now. Just because we don't waste money in Jan doesn't mean the board don't have ambition. If the moneys right and the player doesn't make ridiculous wage demands then we'll do business. If not we've lost nothing because the best transfer in Jan is still Sturridge. Decent amount and fair wages for a 23 year old with good prospects. Stop giving LFC's board hassle and be patient. YNWA come on the red men.

He has also said that January is a difficult time of year to buy players. Not many players want to leave mid-season. He said it'd be better if we do business in Summer.

BthekingB

 

 

25 Jan 2013 07:28:38
Pochettino said he will be signing experienced players from la liga so Southampton's interest was generared by his agent to make Liverpool up their offer to about £10M as the player himself wants to move and the Thomas Ince deal is off till maybe during the summer

Coutinho plays in Serie A not La liga

Thats why he reckons he won't be going to southampton, cause he doesn't play in La liga
JJ

Atm yes. but he was on loan at espanyol and they play in la liga doesn't em?

Perhaps the original poster was refering to his time on loan at espanyol

 

 

25 Jan 2013 06:53:58
Hi eds and Reds, IMO I think LFC wil bring in two more players(a midfielder and a defender).Most likely Coutinho I believe. v are linked with many defenders not sure who(Mirin, Diakite).
Many say Coutinho is not gud, this is the same thing you guys told for Sturridge(12m), now how much do you rate him?? huh?? I believe its the same with Coutinho and he wil make an immediate impact if signed. Stop judging players b4 they play in a RED shirt.

25 Jan 2013 10:36:01
common...sturridge scored 3 goals..from tap ins...not from 25 yard...

25 Jan 2013 12:02:28
A tap in is the same as 3 25yarders because at the end of the day they are still goals. Does it matter where they get scored from. It won't say in the record books in 25 years time Sturridge scored 3 goals (but they were all tap ins).

25 Jan 2013 11:45:13
To make a decent offer on a player and work out whether he will be good for the club you have to judge a player before he signs. Or should we just pay whatever for Coutinho and if it all goes wrong get rid for less than what we paid. Great business mind that you have there. Glad your not in control of the spending at LFC. Muppet!

All hernandez's goals for utd in the league have came from inside 18 yards, do you think they give a crap where they're scored from as long as they go in?

RobInRed

Sturridge's job isn't to score 25 yarders. It's to get on the end of a cross or a cutback. We've been lacking that ever since Torres left.

BthekingB

 

 

25 Jan 2013 05:50:29
When Lucas was out injured we earned 16 pts out of 39.. Since his return we have earned 18 out of 27. Pretty interesting statistic, shows the importance of our #21.

phillyred

Why don't some of you statistics boys tells us which phase of the moon Liverpool win most games? Then we will all know when we should buy tickets for a game.

100% phillyred, don't listen to that edjit, Your point is relevant and with Lucas in the team Liverpool will pick up more points, if a supporter doesn't see the merit in that arguement its not worth trying to convince them - Lost cause

K-Man

25 Jan 2013 11:51:49
When Lucas ties his left boot lace first we are 3 wins out of 5. When he ties his right boot first we are 2 out of 5. OOOOOHHHHH! Will he tie the right boot or the left first for the game against Oldham. Interesting statistics. I know he does this because my brothers girlfriend knows Lucas's sister in law and she said its a real dilemma in the Leiva household.

 

 

25 Jan 2013 05:41:32
all this coutinhio talk is dragging bit too much I just hope we maintain our policy for not paying over the odds for a player.he has bags of potential if he does sign with us(whatever the price maybe) I fully trust BR to get the best out of him.
my dream signing would be isaac cuenca he is available on loan .before his injury he was very highly rated in barca he can play in front three along with SAS. and with pepe looking likely to move to barca in the summer maybe we can easily muster a permanent deal for cuenca. what do you guys think about him ?
AYUSH

 

 

25 Jan 2013 04:26:57
Unbelievable. The end of the window or is it the end of the world? LFC refuse to release the extra 30m to buy Fernando Alondez Garcia so Swansea, Spurs and Southampton have all outbid us by 17p. He would have been perfect - a fox in the box who would have solved all of Liverpool's defence and goal-scoring problems, and all it needed was a cheeky bid from Ian Parry and the Canadians. All I can hope is that it was really just a smokescreen for the return of Jan Kromkamp to his spiritual home. I've given up on LFC until our next win. YMCA

 

 

25 Jan 2013 01:42:07
ransfer gossip; source gazzetta dello sport italian paper; damo

Gazzetta Dello Sport - Coutinho has just one dream: Liverpool
According to Fabrizio Romano tomorrow's Gazetta dello sport writes - Philippe Coutinho has only one dream - to join Liverpool.

Inter is thought to have increased the asking price for the brazilian to 12/13 million euros, and LFC increased their bid to around 9.5 million euros but the player could force a move to Liverpool before the window closes.

Liverpool wanted the player before the Oldham match and that remains to be seen if its going to happen.

He wants to stay! And if he does stay we will have dodged a bullet! Not a great player

 

 

25 Jan 2013 00:12:17
Boo hooooo wahhhh, moan groan coutiniho blah, blah.

My goodness everyone what a load of jessies some of us so called fans are. Sick of all the splash the cash brigade, moaning about money, signings etc.

We have (at last) got a young team on the up, we are playing some good stuff and have a chance ( albeit slim) of getting champions league.

Why does our season rest with signing a promising squad player? Coutiniho is good but is nowhere near the finished article.I think we can afford to take our time as its his loss if he wants to go to Southampton then he is not ambitous enough for our club.

I think we need to remember that its only 2 years ago since Koncheski ......(shudder) the club is moving forward on and off the pitch at last so all you lot posting utter garbage about crisis because we haven't signed x player at x billion should read a book about what made our club great, it was a lot more than money which incidentally FSG have spent buy the bucketload .

Kobi

Ra

25 Jan 2013 09:10:01
Excellent comments. Well said!

Allan

Have to agree mate, good post...........andy.

A breath of fresh air! Great post...

Good post but I think fans wanting to see a few new faces to boost are champions league hopes isn't out of the question.

There's a happy medium to be found! Our squad to keep moving forward and one or two good players to come in would do LFC and all the bickering fans a lot of good!

K-Man

 

 

25 Jan 2013 00:10:36
ok I mostly read the news/jokes on this site as this is what it has end up becoming.. 'fans' complaining that we keep losing out to southampton on transfers? really? first of all let me finally clear it out we didn't lose ramirez as we DID NOT EVEN BID FOR HIM! and as far as I've seen this season he isn't worth the money southampton paid for him! secondly, this coutinho lad; I really can't see what all the hype is about. ok he is young, he is brazilian, he knows tricks, that's all great! but then why is inter not taking advantage of him.. or do you guyz think the EPL is a better playing field rather than serie a, for a brazilian footballer the type of coutinho? Honestly, start using your brains a bit more. If we end up signing him, I hope the kid proves me wrong a hundred times, but if we don't I won't think about it twice.
PP

 

 

25 Jan 2013 00:00:18
Anthony Ujah should be a target, our dealings are shocking and we keep losing out so I reckon we got to find our new Hypia as in he cost us just over 2 mil. Ujah could do it. and why not focus on good players who are coming to the end of contracts like Hugo Viana great vision, Douglas great centre back, Franco Jara on loan but I reckon we could get him maybe even a sneaky bid for matheiu bodmer. even go back in for affellay or even pedro leon. I don't know how we don't try these but pay so much money for hendo sturridge downing etc

Because of wages oh and THEY don't WANT TO COME therefor there not wanted the cheaper we can get players for the better especially with wage costs.and remember just because a player gets paid loads don't mean he's d best joe cole on 90 grand plus his whole career and then you think how much was michu on playing in spain

 

 

25 Jan 2013 00:21:04
The thing which really annoys me is the fact that we havnt agreed a fee for the sake of 2 mil which is nothing, sure keeps trying to negotiate bargains and it's the same Dempsey situation over again just trying to save a million or so and it doesn't work, we certainly have the fund to invest an extra 2 mil so why are the negotiations taking so long

I remember they done it with suarez the 1st bid was 12 mill I think

Im actually happy FSG have stopped paying over the odds for players. Considering Coutinho's lack of experience and halted development since he joined inter milan, 9 million euros is a fair price. Yes, the player is talented, but so was el hadji diouf.
Indian Buzzer

Ok why don'y you go and pay tha t 2mil if you want that deal to go through...ohh yes you don't want to..SO please stop blattering...

That 2 mil could be used to get someone like Michu, then it sounds different, isn't it?

HK

Why don't you lend them a mill or two as that's all it is?, then you frustrations would disappear!.

Leeb7red.

That's part of the problem with football.
That people have now have no idea of the value of money!!

"Its only another 2 million it's nothing"

Someone needs a hug.

The Squirrel

Do we have the funds? We didn't have £2m in the summer for Demsey.

Nothing? have you got 2 million quid?

I agree with this if Liverpool are 100% convinced the lad will make a difference which I assume they are.

However I personally have one massive concern ( hope i'm wrong) Couthinio is not a starter for inter and if he is considered to light weight for them then he will be for Liverpool ( aquilani anyone ?). Sure we have improved a lot and play some good stuff and with DS we now have more firepower But as stoke game proved we are pretty lightweight and when we come up against teams with the sheer running power of stoke ( they didn't bully us they out powered/ out run us) we struggle.
Personally I would rather see a diame arrive now and put the pot of cash towards trying to convince errikson in the summer. Just my opinion but in BR we have a top manager.

Also not related but I would have kicked the ball boy as well !

I couldn't think of anyone who hasn't had a silver spoon all their life that would say £2m is nothing.
£2m savings could make quite a bit of difference due to our slight financial constraints.

FowlerGod.

So you got the 2 million in your back pocket? Sure FSG wouldn't mind if you paid the difference after all it's nothing to you is it!

 

 

24 jan 2013 23:19:02
eds if reina does leave would there be a chance at all of maybe getting manual neuer? if not who would you say is the best possible keeper would could get?

thanks {ed007's note - Rab Douglas has been mentioned a lot.
Plus he has indicated he is willing to take the step down.}

Are you having a laugh chap, Neuer is at 1 of the biggest clubs in the world and in Germany he is also German No.1 and would cost an awful lot of money.

BigD

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:38:50
Hi Eds,

Why were we not going for Moussa Sissoko? Apparently he's only €2.5m ... And we were even going to go for him a few windows back for €10m+

On the other note, I agree with Ed001 that we should either pay it or walk away about Coutinho. However, I'd rather piss Inter off by paying a bit more and hijacking Belhanda instead...

knightza AU {Ed001's Note - he wants to go to Newcastle, I don't think it would matter who else stepped in.}

If he is still that good why would his club sell him so cheap? or at all?

aussiepool tristan

Aussiepool, because he's in final year of his contract.

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:37:25
Hi,

Sorry for language I am french! Do you think that's possible FSG buy Liverpool just to make profit and invest for the red socks? Thanks to us because they save us to the 2 clowns H&G but I have no confidence with american owners, for me just business man to make money!wish I am wrong! If only our owners have the same passion for this institution than the fans I ll have better nights! THANKS

YNWA JFT96

LFCMYLOVE

TBH, the only way they can get significant profits is if we become successful and with the losses they've made already and the losses that are expected to be made in the next few years, it's going to be a a few years (and trophies) before they have some profit to take in.

A French Liverpool fan, cool, head up to the north east friend, you'll be able to get a game for Newcastle the way things are going up there

Kelly Red

Get yourself up to Newcastle mate, they'll sign you up!!

The Cobra

Your english is actually about ten times better than some of the muppets that post on here, well done mate!

FSG buy the club, clear the 300m debt, allow countless millions to be spent on players whilst the club still loses 50m a year. If the plan was to fund the Red Sox with LFC profit then they have a very, very, very long wait. In short the answer is NO.

Lol Newcastle never! LFC simply the greatest club in the world! I will be at anfield for the match versus west ham, can t wait to be back at Liverpool!

The best way to read that post is in French alla joey barton

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:36:24
hello all, would just like to give my opinion on this transfer window so far.. so we got sturridge done early and he has slotted in very well, we are still in the dark about ince. There has also been enquiries over jeffren, hoarua, and most notably coutinho... I would just like to say that coutinho and ince would do me very nicely, but if we fail to only get one or maybe neither (highly unlikely in my opinion) I will not be one to ask for the owners or the managers or ian ayres head, instead I will be positive about how strurridge and the return of borini will change our fortunes in the coming months.

people who are saying why can't we do deals like newcastle for instance. newcastle are playing a very risky game, four frenchmen who are all from french league with no experience in a league like the premiership. all on what I can imagine to be decent wages.. if their risk pays off and the start to climb the table then fair enough, if not they will have a team with a spine of frenchman which arent known for their grit or determination to fight. Liverpool would have the money to buy these four players but what they are trying to do is reduce the annual cost of running the club and that means cutting costs and having to tighten the strings until we are running on a steady level between profit and outgoings.

Liverpool are stable and in this climate with teams all around europe sinking into debt we have to realise this is real life not fantasy league, you can't just press restart when you run out of money, and with the amount of amazing fans who care about our beautiful club, having owners that are being a bit cautious in my eyes is not the worst thing we could have at the mo.. heres to a long sustainable future and hopefully glory to come... ynwa

Calum Red

1 question callum red why are the owners doing this, with the money coming in from all of the sponsorships, the t.v. rights and the money they have saved in wagers by getting the players out who where on the big wagers, they have saved a lot of money, they have had a lot of money coming in and the money they make on match days and merchandise it all adds up to a pretty sum of money, I understand not paying over the odds for players and getting the club to tun soundly in the finanaces but surely we could afford and extra million or 2 for a talent like couthino, or any other extra few millions for other players, one thing is for sure which everyone seems to have bought into and that is our expectations have been lowered, bob paisley said we had a bad season we finished 2nd, that were we once was, and we should realy have the same mentality, I bet you fergie has it, they finished 2nd last season so they went out and spent 24 mill on van persie, who has been the difference for them all season, did we not know we needed a striker last summer, come to think of it BR wanted sturridge on loan, he wanted to come but the owners would not spend the money, that saved money may cost us a few places down the table, were as he could have been scoring and linking up with suarez all season, its just my view on all this money saved and not spent maybe they are spending the interest they are making on the millions they have saves up till now, as I have said, add up the t.v.money and the sponsorship and the saved wagers, and players out on loans, we have saved a lot more than some of you think, but what's happening to the said money

25 Jan 2013 09:53:07
I understand your reply but the way I see it in the last few years Liverpool have been targeted by clubs regarding transfers and making us pay top money when maybe another club could of got them for less. Its obvious that if we wanted to spend an extra cuple of million we could, but we are not guna be held to ransom anymore, tom werner has obviously set a price and ian ayre has to stick to it, and that is fair enough I believe. do remember coutinho is not a regular starter and inter fans arent even to keen on the young lad, there's no gurantees he will make a difference. personally I would take ince over him. look where everton are.. you don't ever see them throwing money around and they are a strong unit. I can't see that it must be quite frustrating as a Liverpool fan because the last few years we threw money around for fun! but where did it get us? in deeeeep trouble is where that got us. So in reply I just believe the club has done the right thing by not being headlocked into paying the top price for a player that in reality has no credentials at a top level.

Calum Red

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:36:14
I bought my fiancee a little puppy today, we decided to name him sparky =D

Noshbag

Can we all see your girlfriends puppies?

Asking for a friend.....ahem....

Allseeingaaii {Ed002's Note - Sparky will be very happy.}

Remember, a puppy is not just for victories. It is also for draws and losses.
MartinR

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:35:14
hey eds, do you guys ever get large donations? {Ed001's Note - I wish! Why, do you fancy paying for me to have a holiday? ;o) I hear NZ is nice at this time of year......}

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:33:08
Would luv an opinion from the eds and supporters about something I can't quite understand. Swansea pretty much held us to ransom over joe Allen in which we eventually paid 15 mil for. Now I would like to know why paying that is fine but for a bigger talent, they don't wanna spend around 10 mil (roughly). I will always back every department of the club but I am just trying to find some reasoning. Please give opinions. {Ed001's Note - who is this bigger talent you refer to then? Because Coutinho is an Inter reserve, while Allen was a regular first teamer. It is not rocket science to work out why one is valued higher.}

Its because allen played for BR before just like borini, but for me the bigger talent has to be the inter kid, 10 mill for his potential is well worth it plus we could get our money back on couthino, I doubt we could get 15 mill on allen

mickey b

See what happens when we go for williams if we pull out all the stops to buy him there is some thing wrong at the club {Ed001's Note - when? You need to stop reading rags.}

Held to ransom?
Try release clause pal.
Piddy

If he's not as talented as Allen I wouldn't pay over 5 million!

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:30:28
hi eds why is it so hard for Liverpool to sign a player with every other club hijacking the move ian ayer must be rubbish at his job no one in the football world knows who the hell he is what do the eds think {Ed001's Note - I just think it is difficult to make a deal without throwing money at it.}

You also need to look at the key players who have committed long term to the club, that's more important than gambling on unproven talent and is also part of Ian Ayre's job.
Burkeyboy

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:29:39
i think the people who keep going on about Liverpool missing out on this player or that player or who just think we should pay what it takes to get the players we want when a lot of the players we want are based on potential rather than what they have achieved should wait a while longer.

Patience and Faith in our methods is a must when wanting to achieve the goals we are aiming for.

millsy

If I want to own a bmw I have to pay the going rate in the market. If I don't have enough dosh then I don't get it so I buy a fiesta and convince myself that it will perform just as well. Sounds a bit like lfc approach to buying players lately!

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:29:11
To chris in tamworth, nice work concerning Bob Paisley on the questions page, has there ever been such an underated manager in the history of british football, watched a programme a few years ago listing the great managers to have worked in the British game I turned off when Harry redknapp came in higher than Bob, all reds know his true greatness & his zen like approach to football, keep well keep red
Paisley's genius {Ed001's Note - seriously? Redknapp was even in the list of great managers? Let alone ahead of the greatest of them all, Sir Bob.}

I was lucky enough to met Sir Bob on many occasions when I was in junior school St Marys in Garston Liverpool. Is wife Jessie was our teacher so when we won the European cup in 78" & 81" we would have an assembly and in would walk Sir Bob grey suit and all. He would also come to the school plays with a few of the players too. Magical times. Some how I doubt that would ever happen now! What an amazing man and what an amazing manager. Thank you Jessie, Thank you Sir Bob.

Danny.

I think the programme may have been on 3/4 years ago when harry was flavour of the month in the media as I say I turned off after Bob Paisley was listed so low, great work eds any news on the proposed coutinho deal?
Paisley's genius

25 Jan 2013 08:26:35
What has Harry Redknapp done? He has never win the league, done anything significant in Europe or managed a team at the very very top.

Sure he took pompey to Wembley and won the cup but ruined them. He also ruined Southampton and I could have turned Spurs around.

Disgraceful.

Ben Rose

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:26:22
What happened to Christian tello from barca

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:19:52
Any interest in Mattias Suarez. 2 Suarez up front would be awesome, and cheeky bid for either benteke or lukaku. Swap Andy Carrol for Cabaye and ben arfa and krul.

Swap Andy Carroll for 3 of newcastles best players?? What are you on?

Apoart from suarez unlikely this is actually a good shout

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:19:26
Both Dembele & Bale are 6'1"

I'm 5'11 and my roommate is also 5'11
AnfieldUSA

1.84 and 1.83m respectively. So 6'0", sorry that I said they were 5'11".

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:17:17
Edds opinion needed are our scouts working for Southampton ? every player recently linked with Liverpool end up at Southampton, Ramirez, ferron and now Coutinho or do we not have the money to compete with a mid table side at best {Ed001's Note - it is just that they have ambitions of Europe and so are looking at similar players to us. There is only a finite pool of quality players, there is bound to be crossover.}

 

 

24 Jan 2013 23:15:10
BR stated he wanted to add to the group, cole & sahin have left with obviously Sturridge added. We have a thin squad anyway that is now thinner. I know there are a number of days yet before the end of the transfer window & feel if we lose coutinho to the saints, whilst it hurts to lose out to a new EPL team, I don't think he would add much to us for the rest of this season IMO

My point? I hope BR will not left short again like he was at the end of the last window. Whilst the Ed's have mooted the possibility of a couple of loan signings, it doesn't strike me there is clear plan in place & Jeffren could be another expensive mistake.

Jimbob

 

 

24 Jan 2013 22:28:31
Ed 01 just saw you replied to a post about Munian earlier.
Tell me this would he be a realistic target for us? Also (I know he's not your beloved Honda) but is he any good? I know he's not having a great season but then the whole team isn't and he has quite a few issue off field, but he reminds me of Fowler with his cheeky attitude.

Also thanks for switching me unto Marcelo Biesla, he may be inconsistent (genuis always is) but I truely admire the mans principles and outlook on life(researched him heavily after you sung his praises) {Ed001's Note - Bilbao want a lot of money for him, he has incredible talent, but it comes with such a risk, I just don't know if it is worth it. If he came up for sale, I would expect the likes of Barca and Madrid to be in for him anyway, which kind of rules us out. Not many Spanish players will pass up the chance to play for either of those two. If we could get him, I would hope that we have fully researched his background and made sure we could keep him under control. If so, then he would be an excellent signing. He is quick, good touch, can pass and shoot, able to mix it when the going gets tough too from what I have seen. Obviously it is a different level of mixing it required in Spain to here though. For anything under 25m, I would say he was worth a punt, over that and I would wonder if it was a bit risky though.
Glad someone else rates Bielsa, he has a real something about him, charisma I guess. It is hard not to like him or the way he gets his teams playing!}

Ed 01 add southampton to the list of buyers for him they have beaten us to at least 2 players, gaston ramierez would have been a great player to link up with suarez, but sadly they out bid us for him, never mind we got joe allen, lol

mickey b {Ed002's Note - I spent the summer explaining that there was no interest in Gaston Ramirez from Liverpool.}

 

 

 
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