Liverpool Banter Archive June 25 2013

25 Jun 2013 22:36:12
Hi Eds just wondering, what does a medical on a new player entail? Cheers boss

Rb {Ed001's Note - you would be better asking a doctor, but they involve all sorts of scans and vary from club to club. Ours are amongst the most thorough these days, hence why it can take a while before an announcement. They can often differ from player to player as well, depending on a player's injury history.}

Quick question, are our medical tests particularly thorough following Aquilani? Or the arrival of Rodgers? I've always thought that our medical team of the past may have not been so professional in the handling of Owen, Gerrard and Torres who have all picked up reoccurring injuries.
Thanks
John YNWA

Not really a reply but wi regards to medical side of game; I think players should not be allowed to play golf, well not play totally but restricted, its amazing how many injuries I think would be related to golf due to the way your legs, knees and ankles twist and strain, icould be miles off but I could also be onto something??

25 Jun 2013 22:05:42
Atletico only owned 40% of Falcao. So they only got 40% of his fee. They did own 50% but they missed some payments and it was decreased or 40-45%.

Doubt it

25 Jun 2013 23:03:25
Hi Eds. Since the Henrikh Mkhitaryan deal looks like it could get very complicating, do you know which other players we might be interested in our turn to? Wanyama maybe? Also now that we have 4 new signings are we going to be looking at any more after we get the midfielder we looking for, if yes, how many more and who do u suggest? Redman 4 Life

Wanyama is a completely different player to Mkhitaryan.

I'd imagine we are still looking for a new CB possibly another striker if suarez leaves and maybe a CDM to be honest I don't reli think we need MKhitaryan looks like a good player but a lot of money and we have plenty people who play his position

25 Jun 2013 22:53:15
Eds, apparently Ian Ayre is flying to the Ukraine today to sort a deal for Henrikh Mkhitaryan. Do you know if this has any truth behind it? {Ed002's Note - Only if it has been on Twitter.}

Idk what happened but Ayre wasn't in any of the Mignolet photos today, not even in the contract signing shot so I think it might have some legs too it, cause ayre is in everyone elses on the site.

Ayre's been riding in his Harley all day, around Stanley Park.

The real AG

25 Jun 2013 22:14:09
Hi Eds I heard there was interest elsewhere in Mignolet as well. Could you which other clubs we had to beat off to get him if you don't mind? Just curious.

Thanks,

-Jack the lad-

Taking a wild stab at it, It couldn't have been Spurs could it.

Don't know what made me think of them.

Alfie

Considering what we paid for Mignolet. Lloris looks a bargain

Arsenal!

25 Jun 2013 21:40:35
Why do people bleat on about Marquee signings? Chelski surely have shown that marquee signings area minefields. For every Mata there's a Torres. For every Hazard there's a Shevchenko. or a Crespo. BR seems to know his mind and recognises what does and doesn't fit - Sturridge in and Carroll out with minimal fuss. And don't start me on Coutinho - what a buy. Have a little faith people. YNWA.

Totally agree fishyred, we're doing ok this summer. At least BR seems to know his own mind. Sabin didn't fit, so off he went. Carroll didn't fit, so he's gone. At least he is decisive with his players. Sad if Pepe goes, but what a replacement if he does.

Cavani coming from Seria A could be the next big flop. He will only score half of the goals he scored in Italy in the Premier.

I happen to agree with ya there kidmillions, as good as cavani is and can be, I think he's over rated and doubt he could achieve the same things in PL as he did in Serie A.

26 Jun 2013 01:53:29
But they are most successful club in modern era, chelsea and united have been winning countless trophys if you take 10-12 years they are most successful club joint with united, before Abramovich they were not even a regular top4 club but now they are known as giants, and will continue to dominate for few years!

26 Jun 2013 10:27:46
@kidmillions
He would be going to either City or Chelsea if he did arrive who both boast very stacked midfields who could provide many more opportunities for him to score than he got at Napoli. The premier league hasn't proved it's better than Serie A, La liga, nor the Bundesliga in recent seasons so that conclusion is a little premature

25 Jun 2013 22:30:41
very happy with what Liverpool's done in such a short time!

Agree Don. A lot of posters on here wanted this as well.

Phooey.

25 Jun 2013 22:14:22
3-4-3 next season anyone? I really like the formation be nice to see it the odd time ed030 this is a question for you my man/woman {Ed030's Note - I am not a big fan personally mate,I prefer would like Liverpool to play,4-2-2-1,3-5-2. }

Ed30. Sorry to point this out as new to the site in terms of posting but if we play with your first formation will we not have one man less than the opposition or is my maths wrong. Personally like the 4 2 3 1 formation

4-2-2-1? do you mean 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-2-1 or 4-2-2-2?

Why do u think we bought a second keeper pig daddy.

Daveevad

Personally I like 4-2-2-2 I think it suits Liverpool well

4-1-2-3

as in CDM, CM, CM, RF ST LF

25 Jun 2013 21:37:26
Just to confirm Mignolet has completed a medical and will be announced within next 48 hours

25 Jun 2013 21:33:57
Mingolet has just been announced on the LFC website. who next I wonder and how many. I think LFC are playing a clever game this season, let the tripe press link us with every one and anything and we'll listen to the eds and there contacts. Bit like domestos 99.9% right usually. lol

25 Jun 2013 21:30:26
£24 million on four players and not one of them better than what we've already got in the startimg 11! Granted there good business and will strengthen the squad but for me I really didn't think our starting 11 where good enough for a top four finish and if you take out suarez these signings aren't giving me much optimis. Come on reds let's break the bank with a couple of big signings for the starting 11 and push on for the champs league again ynwa redted75

How do you know they are not better than we have, give them a chance for gods sake, we are signing young, hungry players who want to come and play for us.as for breaking the bank, you mean like Carroll, that worked didn't it

Good signings, squad players it looks like, one for the future as well.

Agree that without Suarez we will be even further from 4th.

Will only know come the end of the summer if the club have ambition to improve the quality in the starting lineup. No Europe so what can we really expect.

Simon O

Yea let's break the bank get 3 expensive players get in debt go into administration, lose those BIG players, get relagated, never bounce back.

Wish you was manager - NOT

Don't forget we have recouped 15.5 million on Carroll.

Disagree, I think without Sturridge not a top 4 finish - keeping Sturridge fit for next season will be biggest challange, he's made if glass!

We used 28 players in the Premier League last season, and 36 in all games.What makes you think that a starting eleven is enough to see us through the season? Do you also wonder why you and I and others are writing the posts whilst Brenda Rodgers is picking the team?
DM2013

You may need to calm down a bit. It's true we will lose Suarez, an undoubted world class player but when a team loses such a player they change their dynamic. Look at United after Ronaldo left, the rest of the team shared responsibility between them and were still a force. We will be the same, our Midfield is full of creativity and we have strikers capable of banging them in. I foresee Liverpool becoming more of a team similar to how we performed during Suarez ban, expressive and hungry. We will be fine, plus there is a long time yet to go before the season starts and who knows what the wind will bring our way.

25 Jun 2013 21:13:07
Mignolet signed - official
Whos's next?
1.Papa the mad Greek? Too high a price for LFC
2.Lloris? - Benfica will not sell any players who are under a his agent
3.Hendrikh the Armenian? AWOL and too many owners
Eds who would you put your money on?
1 & 3 and we have a squad that can do something, especially if we keep Suarez (slim though it is)

Mhki let's see give it time
papa were playing hard ball
iloris plays for sporting and is away on duty give it time
overall window not yet open have patience

mayhem 1981

Whose next? well it def looks like BR and his merry men are doing the biss nice and early, and you can see what type of players he is bringing in, so to me it is shaping up really well, no need to worry, we will be a force to reckon with, and I think we will score even more goals this coming season, and concede less, which means, top four .
redforever

25 Jun 2013 20:14:19
Question for ed01 / 02, If reina was to leave (and I hope he doesn't) do you think BR will buy another keeper to give mignolet direct competition or do you think he'll keep what we've got?.

Pegleg {Ed002's Note - Mignolet is the choice.}

Christ it's not rocket science Mignolet is going to be 1st choice.There was a time when the rumour was Torres and Pepe to go I was more worried Pepe was going but glad Torres went Pepe has been great for the club but its time to move on for him and Liverpool.

25 Jun 2013 19:41:26
Eds do you think we've got a chance of negrado when Suarez goes I know we've been linked in the past but could be a suitable replacement {Ed002's Note - Not without showing interest.}

But what if he just happened to turn up for training?

26 Jun 2013 01:29:33
With all this Suarez replacement panic amongst the fans, I'm highly expecting Odemwingie to end up sat outside melwood from tomorrow through till deadline day.

25 Jun 2013 19:34:22
i have just had a phone call from a friend who has told me there is a strong possibilty Liverpool will be granted a wild card entry into this years champions league pending the ban to be inflicted on Fenerbache {Ed002's Note - Twitter?}

You know what? No doubt a load of BS but what a lovely little bit of wind up that is for the bitter and twisted friends across the park!

Gotta go.I need to text! Haha!

Nonsense

They have been banned along with Besiktas from Europa. No idea how they bring in another team but, highest ranking would make sense! But who knows.

It will be bursaspor

26 Jun 2013 10:50:21
Think you might find its Bursaspor who take Fenerbache's place. Would've been nice tho!

25 Jun 2013 18:32:00
Ed002, There is discussion of interest in Suarez other than RM. I know this might be a bit boring now but who else are willing to pay the kind of money that it would take for us to sell? I know Juve were very interested last summer but who else? What team could afford him and put up with his antics?

Jay {Ed002's Note - Bayern, Manchester City, Atletico, and perhaps PSG and others.}

25 Jun 2013 21:05:41
Eds fellow reds, I would like to welcome mignolet to Liverpool fc. I think pepe will stay just one more season then he will go to barca .

25 Jun 2013 20:48:33
Mignolet has signed!

25 Jun 2013 19:00:41
i don't see the need for lfc selling deadweight really. unless they want to raise funds for more signings, which I think will be sufficed by selling suarez.
shelvey, downing, assaidi, skrtel, spearing may have roles to play in carling and fa cups. also they can be useful in a dead match maybe resting some key players.
apart from downing I don't think pther players pose a serious wage issue.
i think we should sign probably a CB like brede hangeland or somebody like him with good epl experience and no skill defender. I think agger is one defender enough to play the ball out of defense types. and he is our starter. I don't see a point in purchasing papa or alderwield or even else some one like them. we need a solid CB that complements agger and is likely the opposite of him. I rate hangeland on previous seasons and he still has atleast three seasons in him. may be get a ilori for boosting the squad
we could luk to sign youthful cbs in next windows
maybe.
attack wise I think we are pretty well equipped. and even the midfield is pretty decent. nothing major is required.
i don't think lfc need an out an out DM since the formation we would play is 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 . so midfield will be crowded . at all times I think either one of lucas allen or gerrard will be in defensive role. so a DM is really not a problem. goals will not be a problem this season like last one if a bit of luck favours us.

all we need is not to concede too many. I think we need a good cb for that and an excellent lb too.
i just can't rate enrique. he is good and then he is bad. I can't question his commitment and agility but I think someone more defensively good might be required. since we often open out on our flanks. and our attackers are relatively weak defensively and physically.
rb is covered . LB needs attention.
also we could use some money in retaining our players next season. because if indeed lfc have a good season. the like of psg monaco madrids barca's will always tempt the players. esp the non english ones.

Have you considered that some or all of the players you've mentioned that you say we don't need to sell might, in fact, simply not be good enough or not any better than the youth pushing for their squad places and we don't want them preventing the advancement of those young players or indeed effecting the balance and progression of the squad?

I stopped reading after "I don't see the need for lfc selling deadweight"

you yourself by referring to them as "deadweight" are suggesting they are never going to challenge for a first team place surely?and you want to keep players about that aren't making the first team lads up their game? Look at how reinas performed since knowing if he's fit he starts.

PK

What a rubbish post. Toure is already better than Hangeland and BR is looking to make him the 3rd choice CB. A better CB (Papa or someone big and powerful and quick like him) is neccesary to compliment Agger. CDM and LB cover should also be the next priorities. Next year a replacement for Johnson is a must as well. Top 4 is by no means gauranteed but if LFC don't improve the defense than top 4 won't even be an option.

25 Jun 2013 19:07:14
Cue the imminent troll replies to this post, but I really can't wait to see Allen back in action. If he screws up completely then I'll hold my hands up and say my constant reiteration that he is a class player was short sighted, however if he can replicate the early form he showed before the shoulder injury then he'll be a fantastic string puller in midfield. My only hope is that BR gets him on the protein shakes, obviously not to the point that he ends up a lump, but a bit of added muscle would help him. The early games he played he was simply brilliant.

Whether you dislike the guy or not, we should all be hoping he lives up to his price tag. You don't get high praise from Giggs if you haven't got the talent there.

JFT 96

JP

You do if he's nailing yer other half

I think Allen is a top player with a bright future, I wish people would give him a break too!

Ack17

I keep forgetting about him. He might struggle to get a start, but hope he does .

Ynwa

Hes a little gem of a player. don't see him overtaking gerrard, lucas and hmif he arirves though

pb

Allen will have to fight his way back into the side with Gerrard before his operation and Lucas getting back to form.

Also, I think Henderson has been excellent last season and will no doubt want to make his mark in the midfield as his opportunities as a wide player and as the furthest attacking midfielder will be restricted with Coutinho, Aspas, Alberto and possibly Mickey.

The real AG

He seems level headed and strong willed so personally I think we do brilliant and Rogers loves him so to be honest he will get a chance and hopefully proves his worth

Hi JP.
A few of us were talking about him needing to bulk up a bit earlier this evening in the pub, we were comparing his build to be a little like Lucas when he first came to Liverpool, but you can see that Lucas has beefed up since then, and become a better player, probably due to experience as much as putting on weight.
I also agree that this season he needs to improve on last season, because all good young players should improve on their first season at a new club.
I wish him well this season and hope that he can improve because personally I think he is a great little player.
This time last year I said I would eat my hat if Jordan Henderson didn't become a better player.
I hope I'm right about Joe Allen.

phooey.

Everyone talking about how Allen was our best player early on blah blah blah. How many points did LFC get early in the season with Allen leading the midfield? The answer is simply not very many. Allen is not good enough to start on a top 4 team. Squad player or mid table at best.

25 Jun 2013 18:38:56
Mignolet is now a Liverpool player.

Great addition to the squad.

De1boy

It still isn't confirmed, thought it would be by now.

Not doubting you De1biy but where did you hear this? I'm sure it's true but not confirmed yet. Adrian

25 Jun 2013 21:13:04
It is now:)

Welcome to Liverpool Miggs:)

[The only REDS]

25 Jun 2013 18:28:25
Really don't understand the call for a need of 'marquee' or 'star' signings. Seriously. Give it a rest people. New stars emerge from teams every year. there will always be unknown 'star' players. Just have to look for them. Every year I hear the same crap. We need a marquee signing. We need a big name. We just need players that will give 100% for the club every match, on and off the pitch. That is how stars are made. Every 'star player' started out somewhere, making a name for themselves. So we bring in players that not everyone has heard of. And? Did u ever hear of hyypia before he came to us? Alonso? Hamaan? I could go on all day naming players that mo1 really knew very well, who turned out to be excellent players. Let me also remind you of Fernando morientes. Wasn't he a big name at the time? What did he do when he came? Not a lot. So in summary. Foreign big names rarely work out. Too much pressure from the start, so any mistakes are pounced on by the fans, whereas players bought under the radar get the chance to show us what they're made of before we start hassling them. It gives them a little more confidence. Finances obviously play a major part. Would you give £100k per week to a 28 year old 'big name'? Or £30k per week for a 21 year old with it all on front of him? I know who i'd pick. Just seems to be a lot of fifa or football manager players on here. Ok rant over, hope I made some sort of point. Btw, eds, cracking job you're doing. Been a regular on the site since it was purely football-rumours.com. No other site comes close. Respect! YNWA

Excellent post

Fab post mate. Spot on with everything. This is the attitude and optimism we need.

Young Baller

Agree totally, just because someone plays well for a particular team doesn't mean they will fit at another, there are plenty of examples of that. In some cases you can buy "class", but would much rather we spend the money on improving the squad, and competion within the squad, whilst keeping the wage budget under control, then keep them at the club and reward them with better contracts if they perform than blow it all on a couple of big names on megabucks with only a few seasons left in them.

You see Ed's, this is the type of post we only want to see on here, not the negative so and so's that infest this site, this type of post makes rainbows over my heart, I implore you Ed's, just show posts like these ONLY!

agent owra

Top players win trophies, average players dknt. Simple as.

Get what you are saying but a big name player gives both the fans and the players a big lift going into the season. Of course they don't always work but sometimes they do too

Agent owra. you are the worst type of fan. The type that hides behind rose colored glasses and only wants to be around people that agree with you. This Banter site would die if every reader had the exact same opinions.

25 Jun 2013 18:23:39
is Liverpool (or anyone else) interested in hamburg's Son Heung-Min? I think he'll be awesome in the not so distant future. What about Jose Callejon, he's a great player, just not getting enough game time, is he in RM's future plans?

thanks in advance, liljack {Ed030's Note - He has signed for Bayer Leverkusen or nearly signed. }

Maybe actually reading up on some of these players will answer your question before you hassle the ed's. It's been well reported that he's signed for leverkusen

25 Jun 2013 17:58:51
Sergei Canos has basically confirmed his move to Liverpool.

25 Jun 2013 17:49:07
hi eds, is any club interested in downing,

mickey b {Ed052's Note - There was a rumour of Fulham, but I don't have confirmation of that, and, apart from that, nothing}

25 Jun 2013 17:37:42
hi eds, what's the situation with atsu, apparently he is meant to be signing for about 4 mill? {Ed052's Note - Nothing new, both me and Ed002 have explained}

25 Jun 2013 17:32:55
im a sunderland fan just want to say well done on your signing of simon mignolet you now have the best keeper in the prem probably the world he will not let you down next season thanks to him we are playing in this division so I have no problem with him leaving to a club like Liverpool every sunderland fan loved him gave 100% every game and he's the best keeper our club has ever had easily, so pepe reina has to leave because he has no chance of keeping his place when migs is there.

Great to here that, we will look after him

25 Jun 2013 17:03:49
Afternoon Ed's, just looked through some of todays posts and I was wondering, is there any chance you can just block posts that don't praise the team the manager or the owners?

Now I know some posters are just a little concerned that the players we are buying/bought may not be a lot better than the players already at the club, but these concerns are just bringing the vibe on this site down and I much prefer to see the positive post like " in BR we trust " " these buys really excite me " " hats off to BR and the scouting team for getting there business done early " etc etc.

Any questioning of players by some of the person posters on here really get me cross with there negativity!

Thanks Ed's please post on the banter page thank you ;)

agent owra

Surely everyone is entitled to an opinion? No matter how ignorant, ill-informed and negative, adds to the "banter", and just gives the rest of us the opportunity to put them right with sensible, well thought through, well informed arguments. You should Ed's however with the amount of time and effort you put into the site find a way of blocking the persons who hurl abuse directly at you, and save yourselves the grief. {Ed052's Note - We do block idiots, don't you worry}

You could move to North Korea.

Agent owra lol

25 Jun 2013 16:58:40
pretty happy so far with the way this summer is going, we have bought players early and even though they are not the"big names" some people want they will all have been look at a lot to see if they fit the system we play, now more than ever I think we are going to buy players with the right mind set to play a certain way, I do understand some want star names but we are building a team of players who can play the way the manager wants, I just got a feeling a few will be shocked at what we see this year and let's be patient in regards to who else is joining or leaving as its still early days yet

crewdog

25 Jun 2013 15:59:53
Ed052/Ed001 what do you make of our transfer activity so far?
I like that we have moved quickly to get a lot of players in quickly but I worry that most of them are likely to be squad players. The only ones who we have been linked with or who would improve our first 11 I reckon are Mkhitryan at AM, Papadopoulos at CB and possibly a class RW to replace Suarez someone like Alexis Sanchez.And all of these seem a long way off.
And please don't think I am being negative but I just think with us having limited funds we should surely have our first 11 improved first. {Ed052's Note - Its quite simply fabulous that we've moved so quickly for players, and hopefully we can wrap up all of our dealings before we start pre season. It means the players have more time to gel together in training and matches, so hopefully we can hit the ground running, which we need to to get top 4. Aspas will be a very good player, I am sure of that. Toure is a terrific signing also, because he brings everything that Carragher had, and is a bit pacier about it too!! I wouldn't worry about Suarez leaving. Alberto will grow and show us what he is capable of, and who know, maybe he will do a Coutinho. Aspas replaces Downing, and will bring more flair, fluidity, pace goals and assists to the team too}

Eds well said pal I have been saying for years and getting pretty pissed of that we seem to leave to last minute. Like u say the quicker they come I'm the more chance try have to settle and at least gains bit of practice with what Brendan wants them playing like etc I never understand last minute .com apart from maybe cheaper price which ain't always the case. Well done Brendan for recognizing this this young team is really exciting me the way it is taking shape full of flair and creativity. Just really would like papa in at the back that would make my day and summer complete oh and keep Suarez if not lakaku will do :)

Exactly mate, feeling very positive about next season, looking promising. Jdog

25 Jun 2013 16:49:54
Reports suggesting Mkhitaryan to agree deal with Chelsea {Ed002's Note - Twitter again?}

25 Jun 2013 16:41:55
Mignolet medical complete, no concerns.

Announcement to be made with 1/2 hours. Just official bits and also website content to be created.

Bridgy07

You were saying?

The real AG

Bridgy mate fair play, you called it early again again with the website news. I'll be looking out for your posts pal! Simsimo

Correct as usual Bridgy

Red Lee

25 Jun 2013 16:00:59
If/when Suarez does leave do you expect Liverpool to sign a direct replacement? Or do you think Iago Aspas will be the only striker we buy? Thanks {Ed002's Note - RTP please.}

25 Jun 2013 15:44:23
Any updates on the Atsu, Ilori and Mhkitaryan transfers? {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of Atsu, Ilori needs a money matter addressed and HM is as explained.}

25 Jun 2013 15:11:32
According to Marca Liverpool striker Luis Suarez has agreed personal terms with Real Madrid.
Marca says Suarez settled terms over a contract with Real for some weeks and agreed to move to Madrid if they can strike a fee with Liverpool.
Carlo Ancelotti confirmed as new Real coach today there shouldn't be any more delays in approaching Liverpool about formally opening talks over a fee for Suarez.
Real Madrid needs to activate the �47 million buyout clause or they can get lost! As far as Liverpool is concern, the sooner the better I say so we can use the money to get more talent to the club.

abbs {Ed002's Note - I am guessing you have not read any posts over the past couple of months?}

If we haven't agreed a sale fee yet how can Madrid agree personal terms? Is that not 'tapping up'? {Ed002's Note - They have not spoken with the player directly.}

Yeah carlo, open talks over a fee by all means, just so long as you realise we don't want any of your Real cast offs . oh and by the way, it'll be a short conversation if anything less than 40 mil is mentioned .
think it over now, thanks

"They have not spoken to him directly"
Does this mean that they could speak to his agent Ed? Thanks.
I have an image of Madrid talking to Suarez's ma while Luis is in the front room! {Ed002's Note - Yes.}

25 Jun 2013 15:02:59
Hi eds reading through some of the posts on Mkhitaryan it seems that a deal is still possible, if we do not land him however do you know of interest in similar kinds of players that are alternatives or are we very much focused wholly on HM? {Ed052's Note - Eriksen and Honda are similar, and available options. I would like either, but I highly doubt we would go for either}

25 Jun 2013 15:02:27
It still fails me why we do not go for Diame. Low cost, low wages and a very underrated player. Any PL squad would benefit from him being there. {Ed052's Note - No, he is an overrated player. His technique is poor, he isn't a great finisher or tackler. He is just very strong. He is also very injury prone, and he wouldn't actually be on low wages}

It amazes me how many people rate him so highly. Imo, he's a bulldozer with a poor touch and he gives away possession more than he wins it. Did you notice he was playing in AM and not DM for most of last season too, helps with the MOTD highlights to make him look better then. Compare him in AM to the likes of Coutinho or Suson and we're looking to sign another skillful player for AM.

People jumped in his bandwagon because he had the game of his life against us at there place this season in all honesty it changed my mind a bit of him as I thought he was total rubbish when he was at Wigan. But since that game I didn't see him play well atall apart from one run he has against us at anfield where if he would of finished it off we would of seen one of the best prem goals ever however he shot miles over! Good powerful player but that's about it! Where's momo sisoko these days edd Psg?

25 Jun 2013 14:46:30
Henrikh Mkhitaryan signed with agent Mino Raiola April 15th to get a move to a Europrean club. For 3 days in early June an agent acting for Anzhi tried to persuade him to sign for the Russian team but he knew of Liverpool's interest and refused though the fee and wages would have been higher than paid by Liverpool. The owners of his previous clubs (Metalurg Donetsk and Pyunik FC) have sell on rights written into his contract so they want him to go to Russia for a higher fee as does the owner of Shakhtar! The owner of Pyunik also happens to be the President of the Armenian Football Federation! Henrikh was due in Shakhtar's Austrian training camp on Sunday and has not appeared! Liverpool need to formally make an offer to force this through. Shakhtar are claiming to contact from Liverpool which seems hard to believe.

Is this correct EDS? {Ed002's Note - In part - and some is supposition.}

25 Jun 2013 14:37:23
Hi Eds

If for whatever reason, LFC fail in securing Mkhitaryan,
Do LFC have a back up to Mkhitaryan, and who are they.

Thanks
YNWA-SA {Ed052's Note - Of course. Perhaps Eriksen will become an option, although I would doubt it.}

25 Jun 2013 14:34:38
love this site and a well done to the eds - just love some of the replies to inane posts
here is my opinion and it is only mine so havea go or agree whichever
i am truly looking forward to the season the 1st for a while now, I am excited by the signings and the way BR got us playing last year and think things will be better still this year. I like BR and trust in him and believe we could shock some this year and make a push for the league however I do feel top 4 is very achievable and more realistic but come christmas if we are there or thereabouts we might just shock people who are already writing us off- and that includes the negative fans as well.
courtinho was excellent last season and we can only hope for an improvement now he has settled, sturridge banging em in with a more fluid attack than last year we will score more goals.
we still need a really good CB oh to find a young Sammi would be brilliant.
i love the prospect of mignolet(thought he was the best in the league last season) making sure pepe does his job and ready to fill his boots should pepe go at the end of next season
all in all very optimistic, looking forward to good football with plenty of goals and who knows what can happen. and still transfers to be made

keep the faith {Ed052's Note - thanks mate}

25 Jun 2013 14:06:18
THE LATESTLiverpool target Henrikh Mkhitaryan could be fined after failing to return for pre-season training ON HM

25 Jun 2013 13:50:52
Hey eds, I know you have answered soo many questions about these two players so forgive me, but i'd like to hear your thoughts. Do you reckon that HM's arrival would depend on Suarez departure? Or can you see BR going for HM regardless of what will happen with Suarez? {Ed002's Note - My view is not going to change the more time the question is asked - sorry.}

If I got a penny for the amount of times I have read this same type of comment i'd be a multi millionaire. do you not read the posts? sick to death of hearing about Suarez and HM.

Exact same as Gaston Ramirez last year :@

Calvtron

25 Jun 2013 13:46:41
Hi EDs, do you think Rodgers will try to move out Henderson and Downing this summer?

Husni {Ed052's Note - I doubt it, and maybe, but I expect both to stay}

If he sells henderson i'd be suprized . I thought he finally found his feet in the 2nd half of last season and considering his age etc etc I think the only way is up for him . downing while improved and extra workload covering glen johnsons forrays is at best a squad player to me

I think we've signed enough players now that we won't need Downing. We could get circa 7m for him and his wages are likely to be quite high versus Aspas (possibly 20% lower wages I don't know) and Alberto (would expect his wages to be only two thirds of what Downing is on).

Anyway between the new signings and the younger players coming through I don't think Downing offers enough of a threat going forward to keep him around. I'd cash in.

We should definitely keep Henderson

25 Jun 2013 13:27:05
Not being negative.but are these signings really good enough to move us from 7th to 4th in the table.
Toure is a good signing.
Alberto. unproven and only a handful of 1st team appearances.
Alpas. don't really know enough about
Minoglet. cover for Reina

I hope more quality proven players are on the way in also to help improve the team and not just add to the squad. The players signed are good, but I still feel we need a quality defender, a midfield dynamo and a striker to replace Suarez. Hopefully that can be done with the money from Suarez (if he goes. dare I say it).
My 30th year as season ticket holder, and am just as excited for the start of the season as if it was my first year.

Just put a wager on LFC to win league 20/1. Spurs are 25/1!

YNWA

Your a funny man one minute your asking if the players signed are good enough to make Liverpool top 4, then in the next breath you say you have just had a wager for Liverpool to win the league now that is funny.

25 Jun 2013 12:53:56
Would love to see the lad from shakhtar sign but if not would love to see suso given a chance instead I feel he's ready to stake a claim in 1st team

Really feel we still need a dominant defender in the air!


Basy

I completely agree.

The real AG

Yes definitely mate, totally agree

25 Jun 2013 12:42:19
Eds are we not going to enter the race for WANYAMA he's quality! (Yaya toure like player), very versatille too! an at his age he has bags of potential.

Cheers
Mike

25 Jun 2013 13:23:53
I am not going to pretend I've seen him play that much.But the 3 games I watched Celtic in the CL he was absolutely nothing like Yaya Toure, his passing was abysmal & he took shots from anywhere, just powerful shots, no technique or plassing. Looked a bit over weight & slow.
He also tackles like Jonjo Shelvy. But maybe he is better in the SPL, we will see how he handles the PL and for £ 12 million & a lot of wages I would rather give Conor Coady the chance to be Lucas Leiva's back-up, even Henderson, he played that role against City away and was brilliant.

[The only REDS]

The only reds your talking out your ass there mate, I watch him week in week out in our rubbish league as you like to put it on here and I can assure you the lads the real deal. He can pass, and is one of the best tacklers in the league so I don't now where your making that s**t up from son.

just because he plays for Celtic in the spl I can assure you he's going go on to greatness. He would fit well with BR system and he can cover at RB and Cb, gets goals and is a great leader on the pitch. So less of the BS about him and if the saints get him for the 12.5 million reported then they will be getting a steal, cause in a couple of years one of the big teams will have to pay a small fortune for him after they see he is that good.

Scottybhoy 188 YNWA

25 Jun 2013 12:20:54
Mkhitaryan latest!
Shakhtar Donetsk admit Henrikh Mkhitaryan has gone AWOL.
But the Ukraine club insist there's been no fresh contact from Liverpool.
Shakhtar's general manager Sergey Palkin said: "Mkhitaryan has not appeared for training. We do not know if he will arrive in the near future. He will be fined."
On the ongoing move talk, Palkin added: "He has not had any contact with Liverpool. I am confident that reports of negotiations are just rumours. Liverpool have not made an enquiry about the player.
"We have not heard that Mkhitaryan wants to leave. All questions about his behaviour need to be addressed to him."
Personally I think he was picked up by man in black from Merseyside. ;)

abbs

25 Jun 2013 11:48:49
Ed's is there any chance of Alonso comng back to LFC? {Ed002's Note - I continue to doubt it. I am not sure what Rodgers would do with him if he did return. Perhaps he could ask for him if RM make an offer for Suarez - I wouldn't.}

The only place for him in our current system would be where Gerrard plays. Time to move on.

He is still absolutely class but Amz has hit the nail on the head there, totally agree have to move on

25 Jun 2013 11:48:14
Ed's is there any chance of LFC signing Ben Arfa? {Ed052's Note - Very very little}

Thank God.

Davey Sulls

Over priced.

Poor Attitude.

Injury prone.

No thanks. Ben Arfa is a one trick pony, not to mention his poor attitude and injury history. Do not want another Aurelio on our hands as far as medical issues are concerned.

25 Jun 2013 11:41:14
Hi all, it has been long I posted been busy with other things(YNWIM). I want to comment on our signings thus far and my take on them.GOALKEEPER:though not yet confirmed, but hopefully before the end of the week. I think he will be a welcome addition to the team based on his experience in the league, notwithstanding him(mignolet)being a replacement for reina or not, to me he was one of the most outstanding keepers last season and surely will be provided room for improvement in his all round game when he finally arrives.this signing for me will be(7/10). ATTACK:Both Aspas and Alberto are wonderful prospects(though have not heard of them before) am already looking forward to.Reading about their profiles on the profiles page, gave me that extra bit of excitement for the coming season and I think they will have massive parts to play in the new campaign(hopefully). For me I will give a pass mark(based on signings) of (7/10 for alberto) and(6/10 for aspas).So there you go ladies and gentlemen on my take on each players, enjoy yourselves and have a wonderful day. P.S-If and when suarez does leave, I still think we will have a positive season(finishing 4th Lol)on the assumption of the other targets due to arrive. Note: YNWIM means you know what I mean in case you did not get it.

25 Jun 2013 12:26:33
I don't think anybody knew what 'YNWIM' meant. I might have been able to work it out, had you put 'YKWIM' haha. I love the fact that you re-read your post, realised that wasn't obvious, and rather than change it to 'you know what I mean', you decided to add a note at the end, making the acronym completely pointless to begin with. You might as well have cut the note off, and just put in brackets at the start! lol

Optimistic post though. I agree with most of it, and also look forward to next season :)

25 Jun 2013 11:33:24
Hi Eds & fellow Reds,

Not a rumour but more of a question. If for some reason the Mickey deal falls through could Hamsik of Napoli be an option? He scored 11 goals last season and assisted 17 in all competitions. I know the Eds dislike talking money, but how much would be enough to prize him away? Or reach his buy out clause if he has one? At 25 he looks like a class act. Are any other clubs interested?

Cheers for all the hard work as always Eds,

Fowlers Nostril {Ed052's Note - Hamsik isn't an option. He would demand a hugely excessive fee.}

Thanks for the reply Ed, your opinion is valued as always

25 Jun 2013 11:27:20
Ed052 just reading about your reasons for is cruising to top 4 I am now full of optimism! I think we could shock a lot of people.

Be very dissapointed if Rodgers get the sack though I don't think we will find a better manager

London red {Ed052's Note - I only see him getting the sack if top 4 isn't achieved. If we are very close, he may be given one more year. But, I see no reason why we cannot get top 4. The last 6 months of last year, I believe we were 3rd or 4th, so we will only improve}

The only thing that I am looking forward too this year is BR getting his UB40 claim form

He needs to atleast secure europa IMO. atleast. but I see no reason why he can't even without suarez.

25 Jun 2013 12:06:37
Am I wrong if I say if we carried on the way we played towards the end of last season and even showed throughout the season at big games like manchester city manchester utd chelsea and tottenham we could aim at a top 2 finish if we get the right start. First time in a while I can speak to evertonians and other supporters and they will even applaud how we played the last half of the season for a first season under a different style of play it is only going to get better.

25 Jun 2013 11:16:27
Does anyone wish we would have a pop at signing Keisuke Honda.That guy looks sooo good and we could potentially get him cheap or on a free, so I don't see a big risk. {Ed052's Note - He isn't a free until January}

25 Jun 2013 11:10:19
is mhk only an option if suarez leaves basically is my qestion eds?

tom1975 {Ed052's Note - No. But what is the point saying IF Suarez leaves. Its when, no if}

I ll believe that when he actually leaves ed. as of now he s still a red

seriously think we needsomeone to guarantee us 20 a season if suarez is sold {Ed052's Note - Sturridge maybe?}

Ed we already had sturridge contributing alongside suarez s whilst sturridge might score 20 a season, he woud have if suarez was here too

not exactly a replacement is it? {Ed052's Note - Then Aspas, who will score more than Downing. Then Coutinho will bag 10, Mickey or a similar CAM will get 10-15. Gerrard always gets 10. Another 15 from the other midfielders (Hendo, Allen, Shelvey/Atsu), then 10 from the back 4. That's roughly 85 goals, at a minimum. Not exactly lacking, is it?}

25 Jun 2013 16:52:57
thats a super optimistic projection eds 15 goals from our other mids just simply will not happen. Losing Suarez is a blow, one we can overcome with proper reinvestment, but looking at the clubs that want him should tell you how difficult he will be to replace

25 Jun 2013 10:37:24
Liverpool Echo confirms (usually right, no b*llsh*t)
Tom Ince to sign for Cardiff and Liverpool will receive £2.8m as part of the 35% sell on clause
Well done reds!

25 Jun 2013 10:32:56
Hey eds, I guess you heard that the mkitaryan move maybe in doubt, I still hope he moves excellent attacker but if it doesn't happen do you think BR will move for any1 else, Eriksen and Muriel were linked earlier this month {Ed052's Note - Of course, if Mickey doesn't sign, someone else will. I doubt it'd be either of the 2 mentioned}

Any chance it could be Benteke (I no you expect a AM just wondering though)

Any chance it could be Benteke (I no you expect a AM just wondering though) {Ed052's Note - I don't think so, mainly because he would expect to play week in week out, as would Sturridge. Also, cost is high}

25 Jun 2013 10:28:04
How many more transfers in after Mignolet do you think likely Eds? Things look to me like we are going to have a big push for top four this time. Is that the target this comming season or just another building the squad season. It looks to me as if the board have set out top four finish as a must do? If you could answer that as with all you inside info pleasen guys {Ed052's Note - 2/3/4 more. We have to get top 4 this year otherwise ROdgers will be under huge pressure, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was sacked. It isn't a problem as we will cruise to top 4.}

Not being funny but do you think the quality of players coming in and the potential of a world class player leaving makes Liverpool a top 4 team I think it will be a struggle to dislodge chelsea arsenal man citeh and man u from that group not to mention spurs and everton

dave

Hi Ed52, I admire your optimism but do you honestly think we'll get top 4 with Suarez likely to go? I know people are sick of talking about him but are we not looking more like we could have more of a great squad this season and not necessarily that strong a first 11 in comparison to last season's top 4 teams?

I like all of our signings so far but I think Suarez and Gerrard are our only 2 in the "world-class" bracket, Gerrard isn't getting any younger and Suarez is likely to go.

Definitely thought we'd have it until it actually looks like Wenger is pulling the finger out and signing top level for a change, ie Higuain (proper striker) versus last season signing Giroud/Podolski (good players but not great players). {Ed052's Note - I honestly do yes mate. I don't think Suarez makes a difference to the equation. I would much rather Atsu, Aspas, Alberto and Mickey than just Suarez, however good he is. I also feel our formation is more fluid and works better without Suarez, as we push opposition back more, pass more, and are more fluid. Our squad will by far be better next season than last, as will our first 11. I think that if you are looking at World Class players, then you cannot look far past Sturridge and Coutinho, how they played for us. No doubt Toure will show his worth, as will the other new expensive CB. Wenger may be making changes, but are they the right ones? At 26m, I believe Higuain is overpriced, and Arsenal may struggle to attain the targets they want}

I just don't think we have enough to finish top 4. So Rodgers will be in trouble. Suarez will leave and we will no way replace him with a player of the same ability. We are not better than the two manc clubs, Spurs are better and Arsenal will sign some great players. I think we will finish 6th. If any of our key players get injured than maybe top 8. We have some very good players but also some very average ones too. {Ed052's Note - We replaced Fowler, Owen, and Torres (with Suarez - and we didn't think that possible) and can do the same again. It is not the end of the world}

Cruise to top 4? Haha that has to be a joke ed. with the players we are signing we will be closer to tenth. Other clubs have more ambition than Liverpool at the minute and until we sign a few world class players we will keep slipping. And people who say Liverpool can't attract top players that is complete BS. Football is about money now and instead of buying Aspas Toure Alberto and Mignolet (who we don't need) we could buy a world class player and give him the wages {Ed052's Note - Your so obviously not a Liverpool fan, just a bored sh*t stirrer from another team}

How can anyone say Spurs are better than us? We scored more goals and conceeded less than them. We were bettert than them last season we just had less consistancey. On our game and them on there's I think we were better

Haha well said Ed052.Did anyone actually watch our games at the end of the season.we probably played the best football I have seen in a long time from Liverpool.smart touches, excellent movement, beautiful goals.Once the new guys get into our system and the way we play we should see more of the same.Sorry to say and this isn't a blues v reds statement but I can see Everton maybe struggle a little bit under Martinez and if Spurs lose Bale they are going to have a massive task to fill his boots, he saved them so often last season.Whos to say that Moysie is going to do well at United also.Are these comments coming from Real LFC fans who support our club through thick and thin. I don't think so.Shame {Ed052's Note - Glad you agree}

How can anyone say spurs are better than us easy look at the table for the last 3 seasons.

25 Jun 2013 11:29:47
On form only Chelsea & United are better! And both have new managers! So does City.
Anyone who mentions spuds or the bitters is a spud or a bitter! Any will be asked nicely to $odd off back to where you came from!
People who don't understand football are so arrogant to discuss with the eds who are 1000 times more knowledgeable than any bitter or Spud. Ed052 mate don't bother mate. Anyone with some brain cells knows Liverpool is better than the bitters or spuds! Just like dave the clueless bitter! Our signings will prove great and all you haters will eat a huge P*nis come May 2014.

[The only REDS]

I appreciate the detailed response ED52. Massively improved squad ya I definitely think we are looking like having good strength in depth. I think Sturridge and Coutinho have been fantastic for us, I don't think we could put them near the "world-class" bracket though, imo. It's all opinions though, I think Sturridge will never be any better than a great striker. What I mean by that is I'm very happy with him but imo he'll never be classed in the same bracket as a Suarez or an Etoo in his prime. Coutinho isn't there yet but I think he could make the step up to be considered world-class, he's such an exciting player always looking to create chances.

Arsenal are the easiest target to dislodge from last season's top 4, imo. They've spent years being so close and have signed a load of players who are good squad players for top 4 but not title challengers (Mertesacker, Podolski, Gervinho, Giroud) and have persisted with other below par players such as Ramsey. Last season was unfortunately a season too soon for us but they were there for the taking. My point with Arsenal is if they sign Higuain and someone like Fellaini, even if overpriced, they will be big upgrades in terms of quality on the pitch.

The top 3 are still too far ahead, imo. Spurs are catchable with our improvements and tbh I don't mean to be insulting but I don't consider Everton the slightest threat next season I think they'll be fighting southampton for 7th {Ed052's Note - If Gerrard is classed as world class, then Coutinho and Sturridge certainly are. Sturridge is good enough for us tho, he scores goals, good movement, young, quick, fluid and fits our play. There wouldn't be many better fits around.}

25 Jun 2013 11:40:33
Yep because next season's finish is decided by previous league standings
, I applaude your stupidity! Are you really that arrogant or stupid?
Liverpool will forever be better than the spuds and bitters combined! Spurs are a one man team. Take out bale they are fooked, literally, check the results! Or why would you, you know it!
We are a better team without Suarez in it, don't believe me, check the results and you will know it. I sence the bitters are afraid and Mancs are afraid of next season so they come over here to look funny, but in reality I can smell your fear a mile apart and you make yourselves look like utter and complete tools. Even worse cowards who don't dare to sign in so it doesn't show you're a manc or bitter when it's so obvious and clear like the sun!

[The only REDS]

Ya Sturridge is a great fit for us alright, predominantly in the centre of the front 3 but flexible enough to be able to swap positions to mix it up. I am a big fan of his, just my point was I wouldn't class him in the same bracket as someon like Suarez.

Anyway appreciate your opinion!

Spuds are not as good as us. Come next May we be top 3. And even if they finished above us they will never be a bigger club than the Mighty LFC

25 Jun 2013 09:25:16
According to several european newspapers today LFC are interested in Werder Bremens Eljero Elia. Remember there where talks about him while playing for Hamburg but that Juventus won that race. Any thoughts or news for Elia? {Ed052's Note - Its most probably recycled nonsense. We haven't had interest in many seasons, and have firm, other targets}

24 Jun 2013 21:26:05
Hi eds, quick question.how do you suppose the bbc, in particular Phil mcnulty keep getting news about our transfers so early if were running such a tight ship.

cheers
tom {Ed052's Note - The BBC doesn't get news earlier, it tends to be a few days behind. I'm not blowing my own trumpet, or this sites, but if you read what Ed002 says, on an hourly and daily basis, he will tell you what happens hours and days before the Beeb, and other organisations}

And the Eds still get abuse. its unbelievable really. Appreciate your work Ed052 and of course the other Eds

Pk

Phil McNulty is a BITTER Blue.
He has crucified Suarez and disrespected the most successful football club in English history, Liverpool Football Club.
Jealous, bitter and red top standard journo. who uses every attempt to hurt our football club

Been following the site for years. and I agree with ed052. {Ed052's Note - Why thanks!}

25 Jun 2013 11:47:37
Yeah I like Ed02 when he replies it always seems to come pretty close to what actually happens. so big thanks Ed02 and rest of Eds for making this site so addictive (bit like an interesting facebook lol) and a great read everyday. **** the haters you all doing a great job.

24 Jun 2013 19:43:07
Ed 52 just out of interest if/when Suarez leaves who would your ideal replacement be? {Ed052's Note - How many more times will I be asked this? As a replacement, I am very happy with a combination of Aspas, Alberto and Mickey (or equally suitbale CAM)}

Sturridge has done very well up top but I'd like an upgrade on Borini if/when Suarez goes. Don't see him getting the goals we need if Sturridge is injured or rested, etc. More of a Dirk Kuyt hard worker

Have you watched Borini, the kid works his sox off to impress when he gets on ala kuyt, give him a chance. He's a clinical finisher once gets a run of goals he'll be a different player!
Damo_45

Yeah I have huge doubt over Borini!

Lets see. If Suarez goes and we are left with Borini and Sturridge if he gets injured we are left in a striker crisis. {Ed052's Note - Aspas, Alberto, Yesil, Morgan... Not to mention Downing, or Mickey or Coutinho tucking inside more}

25 Jun 2013 00:46:34
eds saw on the Liverpool site a article was put up confirming the transfer of jay spearing then was almost immediately taken down. think we could have sold him yet? {Ed002's Note - Not yet.}

What club are close to signing him? I hope it's premiership, I don't think he's good enough for us but superb energy and effort and I'd like to see him do well elsewhere {Ed002's Note - I don't think that any club is "close" to signing him. Certainly Bolton would take him on loan again.}

Hopefully if he goes it will be a sale. At this stage I don't see a loan being beneficial to us as I don't see him returning and becoming part of our plans, so with so many players being signed it would make sense to sell him to help balance the books.

If he doesn't get a move to an EPL side then Bolton are still a decent club so at least he has interest in him from there.

25 Jun 2013 06:43:50
Eds,

Have any teams been looking at Sporting's Bruma as of late? He looks some player with a great eye for goal. I read somewhere city were sniffing around, any opinions?

Cheers. {Ed002's Note - There has been a lot of interest in him over the past 6 months but it looks right now as if he will stay in Portugal for another season.}

25 Jun 2013 05:07:42
The way I see it BR going about selling any previous managers signings?
Writing on the wall for:
Reina
Hendo
Downing
Shelvey
Suarez

I think we will see a lots of players going out when the window opens, holidays are over.

BR wants his own players, fair enough those above plus others have had their chances.

Lee73

I am not sure you are right there. I think all those players apart from Shelvey were first team regulars and contributed to varying degrees. To get rid of all of them would be a real gamble as large scale change does not always work. I realise Suarez will probably go which will create a gap for Aspas I think. Toure will also feature but Alberto & Mignolet will be squad players for now.

Mignolet wants to play in the worldcup your mad if you think he'll sit on the bench

That means everyone who was at the club when Rodgers joined is going, i.e. every player bar Gerrard and the local academy players.

Or maybe, just maybe. he might be selling the players he doesn't think are good enough (Suarez aside) or don't suit his style of play (such as Carroll)

Mignolet would need Courtois to get injured to play any games during the world cup

25 Jun 2013 03:04:19
Not a Liverpool rumor just a question, but apparently suarez is rated at 40 million while cavani is said to be going to Chelsea for 58 million? In my opinion suarez is a lot better why is cavani worth and rated more unless its due to suarez's attitude and actions. Would appreciate your view.

Thanks

Any player is only worth what a buying club are willing to pay for him. Comparing different players values are silly as the value is often made up by media anyway.

Nevada

Cavani ain't that good he will be as good as dezko no better suarez is much better national team proves it that Italian league is just slow and suits his game

Because Cavani has a £54 million buy out clause and Suarez has a £40 million 'can listen to offers' clause.

MUSHROOM

And maybe one of them isn't banned 7 matches every season :(

25 Jun 2013 00:12:54
"we came not to play" Liverpool

It is so stupid, doesn't make sense. They should change it.

We come not to play but to win

Adam belfast

It makes sense, but I admit isn't the strongest branding phrase I personally think Warrior could come up with.

Its should be changed simply to "We come to win"

Its in reference to the "play" . we don't come to "play" . play been the operative word, play been to soft . they mean more than that . coming to win is to suggestive . what if we lose a lot lol . does that make it wrong branding. what if we draw a lot lol . do we change it to we come to draw lol/ I get the slogan . I quite like it
5 gold stars

24 Jun 2013 23:52:22
If Suarez stays, even after taking his ban into consideration, he'll still put in more appearnces and score more goals than most made of glass Premier league strikers.
Can't remember Luis Suarez ever missing a game through injury, can you?
That's something else that's great about Suarez.
The lad is made of Steel.
I've said all along we won't sell this summer, as we have to put Lfc's needs first.
We have to finish in the top4 this season, so Suarez who is under contract for 3yrs, has to stay, if we are to achieve our goal.
We don't even need to peruade him to stay, we just refuse to sell in the knowledge that it's impossible for Suarez to sulk, he just loves playing too much and will always give 100%.
So for me it's a no brainer.

Suarez has always been amazing in his attitude on the pitch, and his goals this year. But we could lose Luis and still progress. does anyone else think we should concentrate on Stevie G replacement instead?

Re: Stevie G.

I'm sure a bunch of people are writing him off again this season just like they did last year.

Well, between 2004 and 2010 Gerrard averaged 35 league games and 10 league goals. Last year he played in 35 league games and scored 9 goals.

So, I think he's fine for a couple of years yet. He sat deeper last season and ran a whole lot less, passed more and longer distances, limited his runs forward in to the box and he still averaged the same league games and goals in a season that he had in his prime. Stevie G is a special case, he's not the norm.

SpudRed

25 Jun 2013 01:02:04
So what, is Henderson a replacement for Alonso or something?

As far as Suarez, I have to believe we would be closer to top4 with him included next season as opposed to selling him.

Stevie G sure needs a replacement down the road, but I don't see it being necessary for at least another year. Personally would like to see hendo get a chance to take those reigns and be groomed into it.

25 Jun 2013 07:53:28
Scored 9 and assisted 11 so be had a hand in 20 goals this season. Write him off all you want, we can't afford to lose 20 goals!

Yeah he might never be injured but he has missed more games through suspension than the other strikers do through injury. So that point is a little null and void.

Nevada

Henderson will never be of Steven Gerrard quality you new Gerrard was class from 18 Henderson still ain't that good and he is what 22 good squad player but Gerrard is needed to be replaced in AM as he plays deeper almost replacing alonso in a way because we never done it until now

Gerrard is fine and we have strength in depth to rest him/rotate him. Henderson had a great season and you'd hope Allen will return to his early season form again.

@kidmillions - I agree with you on Suarez. We've bent over backwards to suit him now let's suit the club. Player sales without Suarez, Skrtel, Agger or Reina going will hit circa 40m this summer and 20m from the owners and I think we should be ok financially without selling him.