Liverpool Banter Archive June 25 2014

 

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25 Jun 2014 23:36:41
Evenin Eds, I'm just curious how many questions you'll get about Shaqiri now from people with a bad case of MOTD fever? Especially anyone who declared him pants after the first game.

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26 Jun 2014 06:57:59
There's 1 lol

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25 Jun 2014 23:16:51
Is it just me or is everyone else blind when Suarez wanted out of ajax he bit someone when he wanted to join arsenal he bit someone and now he wants to move again what happenes I just hope the latest Italian take out doesn't effect his value and Liverpool get what they deserve for him

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I don't see why it will. That incident just confirmed common knowledge. At least it means he won't do anything stupid in a Liverpool shirt during the upcoming season.

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26 Jun 2014 09:08:06
I said that the other day he does not have mental issues, it is not passion, he knows exactly what he is doing. As soon as he wants to move and the club don't play ball, he bites someone. The problem is when he does this - he gets exactly what he wants. It's like dealing with a child, you cannot reward them with what they want if they have bitten to get it.

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I really don't see it at all. This is a theory being thrown around a lot, Neil Warnock even suggested the same thing, but I cannot see why he would commit such a heinous act to simply engineer a move elsewhere.

Firstly, such a thing is more likely to put potential clubs off signing him - especially as he is a repeat offender and the games he may now miss.

Secondly, he is also well within his rights to simply hand in a transfer request - much like other players. If he really, truly wanted to leave - and a decent offer was on the table - he could certainly make it happen.

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25 Jun 2014 22:54:41
Everything has been going so well of late for us, I have been delighted with are improvement.

I don't want Luis Suarez at this football club any longer. But it feels as if we start from fresh every summer. This simply cannot keep going on.

We need to assemble are team that we want to take into next season asap or we allow other teams to steal a march on us. I understand this is no ones fault other than that person Suarez who has basically forced are hand in finding a replacement or replacements.

What's your thoughts?

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26 Jun 2014 01:18:09
I personally have the same thought as well.

As far as I think it might be best for Suarez to leave, but it's also might harm us if Suarez to leave. Just hoping the team, with all the incomings are good enough to cope being without him.

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I said the same thing last off-season. Naturally with his performances last year, and his lack of being a knob once he came back in to the team. well, I thought we had started afresh, and he'd taken his second chance with open arms.
Now it's happened again. As you said OP, we can't be doing this every single year. He's made a fool of too many supporters, managers and clubs in general to be given more chances.

Get rid!

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I think the question is will Brendan feel 100% sure Luis won't react this way again in the forthcoming season?
If he misbehaves again in the PL, god knows what that ban would look like? Can we take that risk? Will we have adequate cover?

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25 Jun 2014 22:51:49
Suarez the player is a genius, Suarez the man less so.

Is it too simplistic to suggest that FIFA ban him from playing for Uruguay for the remainder of this WC and the next Copa (which will, by all accounts, be a considerable punishment for him) but lastly, hit him in his pocket and fine him a years salary, to go to kids charities in Uruguay?

Simple, painful and effective. If he doesn't play with the right attitude (and 100%) the kids will lose out.

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26 Jun 2014 00:54:23
Suarez is by no means a "man" - he is a child, and to be more specific, a toddler.

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25 Jun 2014 22:43:49
Ecuador back 5 have been great so far tonight against France. Sign them all. :-)
That sorts out our defence next season.

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25 Jun 2014 22:35:49
Roll on shaqiri world cup fever ;) all I'm praying is that what tommo said via Sanchez is true. I've kept telling myself it won't happen but it's getting harder! Fingers crossed anywho!

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25 Jun 2014 22:12:04
Hi I'm new to the site
Yesterday when suarez bit the Italy player my heart was in my stomach I said to myself not again
I feel sorry for suarez he us a great player but what he done was disgusting and not acceptable
But we should all support him and help him through this tough time and move on

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He will get no support or sympathy from me.

It is the club and fans that I feel sorrow for, and it is them who I will support, not Suarez.

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Cheers, Liverpres.

Cannot support a man that actually complains about sore teeth after biting somebody. jesus.

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25 Jun 2014 22:02:22
Just read Uruguay's response to the biting incident. They say nothing happened and Suarez did nothing. Oh boy, wrong response, all afraid of upsetting Luis. Sound familiar? Does he have any idea how the World and social media have responded.

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Don't know about the world, but it's safe to say the reaction in the US has been extraordinary given most people don't follow the sport at all really.

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All the Uruguan press players team officials and fans are in complete denial that LS has doe anything wrong.
I know it seems a bit harsh but I would send the whole team home and award their place to Italy that would be the harshes punishment possible
I love LS as a football genius but his actions disgust me he needs specialized psycriatric treatment more than our man can give him

Bobbinred

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26 Jun 2014 08:07:38
I love how people make up ridiculous, over-reacting sweeping punishments. Some real creativity. Disqualify an entire team mid-tournament because of violent conduct from one guy. How about we just cancel out all of Suarez's goals? That means England go through! Ridiculousness

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25 Jun 2014 22:02:08
I'd love it if the Sánchez rumours were true. He is the best replacement we could get for Suárez- like Suárez, he has a fantastic work rate (but it doesn't seem to get the better of him), he has pace, great skill, can see a pass, is a good finisher and not bad in the air for a small guy.

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25 Jun 2014 23:06:52
Or Sanchez alongside Suarez.

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25 Jun 2014 21:30:00
Evening dear eds,

Do u think (if the sanchez rumors are true)
That our intention to recruit lallana is basically over?
Or are we looking to have both?!

Many thanx

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{Ed001's Note - I don't think it has any relation to other moves at all.}

25 Jun 2014 21:42:08
FA has come out and said, They actually cannot assure of any punishment for Suarez at this stage.
I strongly believe He would come clean.
And we have already secured Sanchez. What a season coming up.

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25 Jun 2014 22:00:48
And we have already secured Sanchez
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If Phil said it then it must be true -- the thing is , did he really say it/

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Where are the sources?. Hope you are not basing the sanchez deal on what Phil Thompson said. His not exactly Mr. Reliable.

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Sorry Harry, how do you mean, I strongly believe he will would come clean?

Also I'm not sure what Tommo said is true mate are you?

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25 Jun 2014 21:41:31
Shaquiri at it again - I think he's twice the player lallana is - I know where I'd be spending my money

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25 Jun 2014 22:21:37
shaqiri has been quality tonight but his first 2 games he hardly set the world cup alight he's very hit and miss sometimes amazing sometimes bad but he's only young plenty of room for improvement i'd go with shaqri over lallana well over lallana at anything over 20 mill and that's high

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25 Jun 2014 21:40:52
Heard that Liverpool are preparing a bid the the Honduras player COSTLY. Sounds expensive to me! Boom boom. It's the way I tell em.

Sorry guys but someone had to post something that didn't mention the "Phantom Nibbler".

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25 Jun 2014 21:34:44
Hey there. Although i'm English and love Liverpool, I am also a huge fan of the MLS and US Soccer as a whole (i probably watch it as much as LFC or maybe more) So I was wondering if there is any interest or any chance of an MLS or USNT player joining Liverpool?
Thanks, Sam

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25 Jun 2014 21:22:03
Sakho has been looking the biz for france

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25 Jun 2014 21:08:38
Does he have mental problems? Does he have dental problems? Enough!

Can we get back to MOTD fever. Really like James Rodriguez. Don't even mind if it's pronounced James with a J or Ham-ez.

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25 Jun 2014 21:08:17
Motd fever admittedly but the Nigerian keeper. seems a good communicator, good decision making and shot stopper. as the eds have commented we may be looking for a new goalie.thoughts anyone?

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25 Jun 2014 21:18:16
enyeama I watched him a few times last year he looks a very good keeper played well in the french league in the few matches I seen anyways

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25 Jun 2014 20:45:11
Edd001, herrera who looks like heading to united looks a real good player. he's a young midfielder I would have liked at pool potentially next season. Do you think he'll be as good in the PL?

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25 Jun 2014 21:39:41
He would have cost UTD a massive fee.

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{Ed001's Note - looks worth it, likes a tackle, good passer, good vision, works hard for the team, just not sure he will be surrounded with enough quality to get the best from him.}

Agreed Ed. He is some player but in the past he has had difficulty in marking players (down to tactics probably) and dealing with players with pace, nothing that cannot be worked on though.

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25 Jun 2014 20:27:02
People really need to calm down. Yes he's an absolute fool and has cost this club a lot of money through sponsors and maybe even how much he's worth now. But when people start talking about sacking him?! Seriously you would chuck away millions because he bit someone! I think everyone forgets how much a million is.

We will hopefully sell him as soon as possible get as good as a replacement as possible (my option would be Sanchez) and get a lb cb that's it. No centre forward as we have sturridge, borini and lambert. We can take a 4 3 3 formation with Sanchez sterling either side of sturridge.

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Completely agree. As far as hopefully we will lose him- worse things could happen than we sell him for a little less than we expected a week ago say, but best case scenario he stays and fires us to domestic and European glory.
What is being overlooked in this whole debacle, I believe, is the fact Suarez has looked calmer since he started working with BR's psychiatrist mate (forgotten the name, sorry). Uruguay, as a South American team, will have been trying to set up a burning passion within the side heading into the game. If Suarez is mentally unstable, as has been suggested, then this could have triggered the strange response.
Get him helped as much as possible I say, the man is a genius as we all know, just has to fight the devil inside.

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Absolutely 'Toddy'! What Luis needs is an arm around the shoulder and a few calming words in his shell-like, then BR can hook him up with Sanchez and Shaquiri, maybe play Sterling in the hole and its onwards and upwards.Lets not throw the baby out with the bath water gentlemen.I find the 'high-horse' riders and their preparedness to abandon an obviously troubled Liverpool player as repugnant as they find Luis Suarez's recent behaviour. I pardon you Luis

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25 Jun 2014 18:50:50
Edd001, we have to wait to see what happens in suarez.situation but I feel the only player capable of replacing him is sanchez. Whether we get him or not is another matter but.does the.club have atleast someone in mind incase of Suarezs departure?

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{Ed001's Note - the club is always preparing for the possibility of him going, they had to with his constant pressure to go.}

25 Jun 2014 19:51:28
Hi eds I no u stated earlier it was at best possible for Phil Thompson to no what's happening with Sanchez, but can u or will u say what u believe to be taking place in this transfer, thanks

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

25 Jun 2014 19:49:17
Did anyone else have a really uneasy sleep last night?
I was serously emotionally disturbed all night just
wierd dreams then waking up every hour. Suarez has really got to me. I love him, he's my hero, he's one of the best footballers we've ever seen - and then how is he possibly going to survive this? and how is Liverpool going to survive this? He's got into my mind and my heart. Fecking Guy.

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Lol I slept like a baby

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25 Jun 2014 21:20:32
only night iv lost sleep was after the chelsea game kept seeing gerrard slip again and again but certainly wouldn't lose sleep over saurez latest twilight impression

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If I were a centre half or a Liverpool fan I'd be having nightmares to! Those fangs!

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25 Jun 2014 19:31:29
Suarez should be sold, Suarez is this, Suarez is that, sell, sell sell.
11 months on, Suarez is a genius, Suarez is a Liverpool legend.
Another month passes by and Suarez should be sold, Suarez is this, Suarez is that, sell, sell, sell.
The same posters changing their minds all of the time.
We all know what has happened but let the people in charge decide and stop all of this crap. Judge jury, hangman all in one. Some people are supporting him one minute and hanging him the next minute. The same posters with different views depending on who he scores against and how many goals he scores. If he goes then thanks for the memories, Liverpool are a club and we will get over it. If the devil was in a Liverpool shirt he would still get my support untill he no longer wears the shirt. I, unlike others, will not change my mind to suit.

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25 Jun 2014 19:28:28
If I am not mistaken, when Suarez was banned in England, he could still play for Uruguay? Maybe it will be a lengthy International ban.

There must be something wrong in Suarez's head and that is not being sarcastic. You do not just bite people for the fun of it. Something has to trigger this behavior. I am not trying to make excuses for the Suarez but maybe just maybe he needs to go for a psychiatric evaluation?

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25 Jun 2014 19:11:39
Hello Eds,

As you must be aware about Suarez being bitten by the evil bug again n trying to bite Chillieni, there are reports that FIFA can ban him even from club football for a considerable amount of time. Is that possible?

What will be Liverpool's stance then? Will they sue him or sell him?

Lot of questions, I am sorry!

Regards, Ashish

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{Ed002's Note - Read the posts please Ashish.}

25 Jun 2014 19:05:35
Ed's regarding the suarez ban. suppose FIFA ban him from international matches and domestic matches i.e. currently the EPL. would this mean that even if he was sold to a team in another league. the ban would still apply?
Thank You.

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{Ed002's Note - Generally yes. But there are exceptions.}

25 Jun 2014 18:51:39
Article 2 of the FIFA Disciplinary code states that:
"This code applies to every match and competition organised by FIFA"

Article 136 of the code states that:
"If the infringement is serious, in particular but not limited to doping, unlawfully influencing match results, misconduct against match officials, forgery and falsification or violation of the rules governing age limits the associations, confederations, and other organising sports bodies shall request FIFA to extend the sanctions they have imposed so as to have worldwide effect."

"If the judicial bodies of FIFA discover that associations, confederations and other sports organisations have not requested a decision to be extended to have worldwide effect, these bodies may themselves pass a decision."


This would suggest that contrary to what you say Ed01, Fifa can't ban Luis domestically? Only request the FA do so?

Or is your interpretation different?

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{Ed002's Note - You have misinterpreted this. You are wrong.}

More like the FA could ask FIFA for a worldwide ban but even if they don't the FA could still action anyway.

At least that's the way I read it.

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25 Jun 2014 18:50:34
Eds, a question.

If Suarez were to receive a total ban, is there any possibilty that LFC could appeal (for EPL only) on the grounds that they had taken him in hand last year and successfully handled him, sighting the great season he had plus awards that he won. He was not in their care at time of this incident and that perhaps Uruquay should have had somebody in the camp to manage him better? This is probably far fetched but just wondering.

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{Ed002's Note - You are right, it is far fetched.}

25 Jun 2014 18:45:31
as a Liverpool fan I obviously don't want Suarez banned from club football so we can play or sell him. but trying to look at this from a neutral point of view I think a 6 month ban from all football would be fair. I know most would disagree but if this was a man united player who'd bitten 3 different players in the last 4 years we'd all (including me) be calling for a 12 month ban or more

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25 Jun 2014 17:50:44
Hi Eds and fellow reds.
long time reader, first post in a few years.
As a Liverpool fan for over forty years there is only one course of action I would genuinely like to see from my club irrespective of any judgement on his international future. I know innocent until proven but we've all seen it. the whole world has seen it! LIVERPOOL FC striker. again!
Sack Suarez!
Terminate his contract and current relationship with us.
It is the only course of action that will save us further tainting.
We stood by him before and invested in his support but it hasn't had a sustained effect. Therefore we are culpable in him doing it again. We were happy to benefit from the positive and therefore should accept our role in the negative by not punishing him enough to stop him acting this way.
For that reason the financial hit should be taken in the short term in the hope the sponsor deals will continue and be added to, which with him they may not be.
we would save our name from here on in at least, despite it being sullied by him before, twice.
if he is banned we will also be continuing to pay him anyway so there it is.
Sack him.
Please Liverpool.

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Mate, what he done was completely wrong, but we cannot afford to sack him and lose out on a potential £50m+ transfer fee, we're not in a financial position to do so.

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Can't see the club chucking 70+ million away by sacking him mate.

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25 Jun 2014 18:12:19
calm down lad

the owners will not pass up the chance to earn 50-100mil off him

dock his wages, ban him, make him train the youth team, but throwing away that kind of money is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. ok it's mental but let's make the best out of a bad situation

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Are you mad this is not joey Barton. yes he's a nutter yes let's get rid but for nothing

The big clubs will not go near him forget barcalona and real

Let's see what other cash rich clubs will bid forget 100m release bids most is 40million now if that

Just hope he and Liverpool gett lucky with the verdict

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Why should we sack him to save ourselves abuse from other clubs who would be queuing up to sign him on a free

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{Ed002's Note - I doesn't work like that. If he signed for another club then Liverpool can make a claim - this has been tested already by an EPL: side.}

Evening All,
I have been made aware that contact has eventually been made between Suarez and Liverpool football club and talks have not gone well. Suarez is absolutely adamantly refusing to accept he has done anything wrong. Regardless of what people think on here Suarez is right on the verge of being sacked. Liverpool football club believe they have a case to pursue Suarez for damages as a result of his disgraceful behaviour. Wait and see!

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25 Jun 2014 18:54:31
He's already cost us too much. Not just in money.
His value has plummeted by a significant amount, anyway, to us to sponsors, to merchandising, to prospective buyers
Any potential destination will see that too. Will Barca sanction spending on him, or Madrid, despite knowing his previous they may have until this.
i don't want a squalid auction for a reduced fee it demeans us as a club even further.
lets get this. let's get that for him.
we already have got enough from him and by him. LFC is what's important, long term. If moneys your thing then its about marketable value. He is not high on that and won't be for some time. Liverpool football club needs to be all the time. That takes a whole array of factors to maintain, yes including great players bit its all a balance. he's tipped it.
He has disrespected us all and the club. again

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You're getting on your moral high horse matty yet ignoring the very significant business aspect (i.e. the money) that is interwoven with this issue. He isn't going to be sacked and neither should he. Do clubs sack players who break other players legs? Or who throw elbows casually? No. Suarez has let himself, his country, our club down, no doubt about it, but please stop this sensationalist crap the media loves to trot out, its embarrassing.

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25 Jun 2014 22:49:50
Seano, the money aspect has nothing to do with the issue.
The issue is the lad has bitten three players. Twice while on contract with us. That's not a cash thing that's a moral thing so horses for courses its a moral decision. He should be out. What is embarrassing is people worrying about price and bans. He shouldn't be allowed to step inside the place after throwin it back at us never mind represent us on the pitch. Whenever that might be. Sling him, fast, for nothing is fine. Itd be a big gain for the club in the long run

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Seano,
Do you really believe it is as bad to break someone's leg as it is to bite someone. I didn't realise we played football with our teeth. If a player breaks another players leg with a reckless tackle that is a shame however as an ex pro footballer it is part of the game and you expect the odd late tackle and just hope it does not cause any major injury. That is the nature of the game. Biting someone is completely off the scale and I know that fellow professional footballers are disgusted with Suarez and quite rightly so. His attitude is that he has done nothing wrong and Liverpool football club must take a strong stance with him to ensure that if by some miracle he does stay he never does anything like this again

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@matty
When you talk about the club sacking him then the money issue, specifically his value, becomes pertinent. He is simply too valuable to cast off and by ignoring the price and money involved you ignore a significant aspect of the footballing world. We won't sack him because, as either a player on the pitch or a commodity off it, he is highly valuable. His behaviour was once again very poor, no argument at all, but its not going to be enough to dispose of him - we are not in the financial position to be able to do so, its common sense.

@con6580
Doubt you're an ex-pro because I reckon, if you took a straw poll, that 99% of players (former and current) would choose a bite mark on the shoulder over a broken leg. A broken leg is much worse and to suggest otherwise is, in my opinion, beyond the ludicrous. I agree Suarez's propensity for the occasional bite is very peculiar behaviour but, considering some of the other things you see on football pitches, is not the cardinal sin the media are having a field day selling. It is completely unacceptable to bite a player on a pitch - but the media are having way too much influence over how its being reported and peoples reaction to it. But hey whatever sells papers right.

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Biting is a deliberate act all of the time. Breaking someones leg can be accidental.

The focus should not be on "what would you prefer happen to you?" but more so what was the intention of the purpetrator?

A bite is never accidental, there is no excuse for it so give up seano.

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25 Jun 2014 17:29:00
What's the situation with ezequiel Garay? Heard that he moved to Zenit a few weeks back is that true?

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You'll have to ask that question on the Liverpool rumours site, this is the Luis Suarez rumours page.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes he has moved to Zenit - the delayed the announcement.}

25 Jun 2014 17:27:10
Eds fellow reds, could really do with some good news, at the end of the season I couldn't have been happier club moving forward back in Europe Suarez sturridge and sterling looking class really positive for the new season . Now I'm gutted Suarez is a complete tool get rid now, and hope we can move on with what we have .if we keep him I feel it will effect the rest of the team next term . We always seem to get so close, then someone or something wrecks it .hope this doesn't put us back to far .would like to here from BR or fsg to regain some hope

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25 Jun 2014 16:33:00
Question for you
Luis Suarez has mental issues which is obvious, should we punish him for them or try to help him? Those who want him punished are hypocrites as I bet they wouldn't want people with physical disabilities punished but it is okay to punish those that are mentally challenged.

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Same could be said for murderers and peadophiles, that they have mental issues. Best send them them all to a shrink.

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I don't think Suarez has a mental issue. I think you are way of the mark.

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25 Jun 2014 18:01:22
There is a way of reprimanding people who do horrible things despite certain issues. It's nothing to do with hypocrisy so pop off your high horse for a second.

Suarez is not affected with serve mental disabilities, he is 99.99% of the time a completely rational human being. At worst he has a mild form of split personality syndrome bought on by stress. He knows his problems and demons and when he signs contracts and steps onto a football field, he has whilst of stable mind agreed to abide by those laws.

If his mental state is of such where he knows he is unable to do so, he should retire from the sport voluntarily. If he chooses not to retire, he is subject to the laws of both the game and his contracts.

And FYI, there are many examples of players from clubs suffering much more severe physical and mental issues and whilst the clubs have punished their actions when applicable, they have also helped them and continue to do so long after they are not contractually obliged to do so. Take a look at Michael Ball for an example

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I think it is a mental issue. If he had already been diagnosed with it he would have been respected and wouldn't be afraid to come out, but he doesn't want to be seen as weak. Plus, I don't think the either respect or care for such disabilities on the streets of uruguay. We live in a society where the mentally challenged are respected and looked after, but because its luis suarez, who I firstly a footballer (scourgemof the earth to the public) and then probably the most controversial footballer as well, he is being torn apart and Liverpool being torn apart with him.

Just because he doesn't look like a weak figure, or appears to be nasty and desbicable or an overpaid footballer, or a footballing genius, no such things we normally associate with the mentally challenged, doesn't mean he is any different to us, in fact is at a disadvantage in the first place because of his upbringing.

Think outside the box and realise he is a human being like us who clearly cannot help it, and needs some help and treatment, so stop throwing him in the corner and pointing and laughing at him like an animal and realise he can't bloody help it!

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Suarez is a like a child, which in some ways may explain why he equally is so brilliant on the field, because he just can't bare to lose or to let himself down in playing respect and acts like a thug when he doesn't get what he needs-ie goals

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I think does some sort of mental issues but i'd be surprised if he hadn't already received help and it's clearly not worked

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Personally I think you guys are making excuses for what is quite obviously, a little *******. The only thing is, he's our little *******!

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25 Jun 2014 18:59:47
If Suarez has mental issues then FIFA, UEFA, English FA and LFC all have a duty of care towards Suarez . His behaviour is unacceptable it can not be allowed to happen any were on a football pitch but the group of FA's I mentioned are more than happy to have him play football in all their competitions because he brings people to watch him at grounds and on TV . The man has problems handling the pressure and stress of performing week in week out and has been high lighted through out his career this it the third time he has bitten another player not the first time so why has he not been take under the FA's wings and had medical treatment . LFC will probably try and sell him on to the highest bidder but will that cure his problems no it will be LFC just passing him on to some one else to look after and not find the root to the problem . They can ban Suarez that is really easy to do and it takes the emphasis of the FA suits but is that helping the lad why don't they just say he can not play until he has undergone psychiatric treatment to asses his behaviour there is obviously something wrong when he today is saying he did nothing wrong yesterday he can't even realise what he did was not right .

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{Ed002's Note - He has had help in this matter - and that was orgainised by The FA.}

25 Jun 2014 20:12:08
He Had help from LFC and it obviously was not enough help he was banned for seven games and was then allowed to go back into football was that long enough time to fully asses him Ed002

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea.}

25 Jun 2014 20:19:56
I personally cannot believe suarez has again let himself , family , country n Liverpool n all who forgive him down.
Gutted to be honest.
i do not think he will play for LFC again and do not believe another european team will buy him from us.
He will be banned for quite some time and I think he will be back home in uragauay plying his trade after we sell him at a reduced price but making perhaps double what we paid.
Gutted for all the fans who stuck by him.

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26 Jun 2014 08:13:14
We paid reportedly £25m for him. What team in Uruguay could buy him for £50m jack?

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Perhaps his casual use of racists slurs is also a mental issue.
Maybe he has racist Tourette's?

We don't let untreated paranoid schizophrenics fly passenger aircraft. We don't let psychotics run nurseries.

If he has a proven medical disorder and is a danger to himself and/or others then he should be detained and treated, voluntarily or by force.

He should not be playing football if that is the case.

I don't think he has a psychiatric disorder, I think he's just a nasty piece of work.

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25 Jun 2014 16:32:47
Whatever happens to Suarez he needs to accept the punishment. The frustrating thing is that yet again we are talking about one player here. Football is a collective game with genius talent but sometimes we forget it's a team game. We can't keep on defending one player as he keeps wrongdoing on a football field. My opinion is oh no here we go again saga after saga. Sorry but it can't happen anymore.

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25 Jun 2014 16:24:05
So as a bit of an anecdote to the whole Suarez situation, I am American living in the US. This morning I get in my car to drive to the store and the radio comes on to the local station that does a standard crap morning show, focuses mainly on celebrity gossip and the playing of awful pop music.

Anyways, what are the hosts of the show talking about? 'Some guy' (their words) named Luis Suarez that plays for Liverpool in England biting someone for the 3rd time during the World Cup. I suppose for those in other countries this may not seem unusual, but to hear them talking about anything remotely soccer related on a typical morning radio show in America is really, really strange. That's the sort of impact this is having- millions of people being introduced to Liverpool FC in the context of Luis Suarez who happens to play for us. Interestingly, Liverpool was mentioned a couple of times more than Uruguay.

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25 Jun 2014 16:51:50
There is no doubt the guy has done a lot of damage to LFCs' image.

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25 Jun 2014 17:07:34
I agree with AG, And I also agree, we lost the plot the moment we were out of CL and from past 4 years, We didn't gain anything.

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25 Jun 2014 18:06:34
We being out of the CL has nothing to do with Suarez's antics.

You can't be serious if you are pointing out LFC being out of CL and comparing it with Suarez's actions during his time at LFC.

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25 Jun 2014 15:47:30
Edd001 away from the suarz incident what do you make of ronaldo( captain) comments on the portugal team and then comparing aquero and di maria to his own team mates?

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{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen them sorry.}

25 Jun 2014 16:15:08
Ed I'm new the site and just like to know about agger's role at Liverpool next season I like him to play more but not to sure the BR see's it like that

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{Ed001's Note - he is not first choice.}

25 Jun 2014 16:07:26
I'm sorry but I blame BR for what happened. He clearly stated that he wants 'hungry' players at Liverpool and Suarez just proved it.

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Oh the puns. i'm enjoying twitter right now.

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25 Jun 2014 16:07:17
Macca if your reading this, Have you heard anything on the Alexis Sanchez front, have we bid, is it accepted, is he coming.

Any info at all would be much appreciated from all reds.

Thanks

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I read on a website that phil thompson is saying the deal is already done, I am happy if we get him as he could be another diamond for us

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25 Jun 2014 15:51:21
First time poster
On Saturday my three year old daughter charged at me, jumped on me and then sunk her teeth into my shoulder. I proceeded to throw her off me (in a gentle way before I get childline on me) and then she rolled on the floor crying.
It was amazing watching a rerun last night of the exact same thing!
Like suarez I dint make a big thing out of it as these things happen!

On a more serious note I would like to see him leave for the maximum possible on the basis FIFA don't ban him from club football as well. Whilst I will always support any player at Liverpool he does make it rather difficult to defend him and we have a great manager who i'm sure will be able to replace him with a few options who can maintain our current great form. I personally think his value has gone up as any club will be happy as he doesn't have to play any games for his national team which means in his prime he only has his team to play for which makes him a more viable prospect (excluding the insane biting potential)
as someone else said he's done this twice before and on both occasions he was sought after so nothing has changed in that perspective so people maybe need to calm down about not being able to sell him - I don't think it will be an issue.

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25 Jun 2014 15:34:07
I think the best result for everyone is just for Suarez to be classed as mentally Ill. Who's to say he's not? Maybe there really is a deep underlying mental problem with him. No point just banning him, he needs to be admitted somewhere and actually helped as a human, forget the football side. He's not right.

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25 Jun 2014 15:59:33
I agree. I find him troubled as he always bites opponents in pointless places which shows me he doesn't mean to injure them. He is hardly trying to bite players ears off ala Mike Tyson. As I said before I am not condoning his actions but am rather tired of them.

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If he were mentally ill I would think he would be biting the mailman for bending his envelopes that contain pictures or biting his teammates in practice sessions. Why does he only seem to bite people rather randomly in televised events and not other situations? It's all just really weird, to be honest.

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25 Jun 2014 16:39:56
Mike Tyson bit him as he'd been butted a few times.

Louis was shoulder barged and probably called names.

I'll have to give it to Tyson then.

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25 Jun 2014 16:48:51
RDL that makes no sense. Obviously under higher pressured situations where he has to get slightly aggressive he has more chance of biting someone rather then the mailman

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If we assume Suarez is just hardwired such that he cannot distinguish right from wrong in 'high pressure' situations, then the only recourse is the player needs to be an ex-player as he represents someone with the ability to do significant harm to other players on the pitch.

Personally, I think that's complete BS. His reaction after biting Chiellini yesterday was to immediately play it off like Chiellini fouled him. That to me signifies intent to deceive, which can only happen if you know what you were doing was wrong. He did it on purpose, not because of some mental instability or whatever nonsense. Why, I have no idea although for me it's an attempt to force a move.

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Woah woah woah hold on.

lets admit him somewhere once we get the money for him.

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If he was mentally ill and a danger to others, he would be detained and not allowed to play football.

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25 Jun 2014 14:58:56
Hey eds, quick question. If Suarez is banned from club duty, we wouldn't have to pay him would we?

Also, can the club take legal action against Suarez? I don't think they would I was just curious.

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{Ed001's Note - it would be possible for us to withhold his wages, though it would cause no end of legal issues, but it is possible.

What grounds would they have for legal action?}

Gross misconduct? Assault? ABH?

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25 Jun 2014 16:01:50
Could we not properly support him this time and give him the help he needs like a few months break and anger management from experts in that field instead.

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Out of interest why do you assume he was not properly supported previously?

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25 Jun 2014 18:11:01
Cheers ed. There just seemed like so many little things piled up that they could.

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25 Jun 2014 14:22:38
Chielinni, ivonovic, ottman.
Got to give credit for their restraint. I would have punched him square in the face.

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25 Jun 2014 14:54:44
Mikey

One of your best. Chiellini certainly tried his best to do. Ivanovic is a Gentelman. Absolute Respect for him to remain calm and not to press or make a mess.
I admire him since.

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Ivanovic is meant to be one of the nicest person you could ever meet. When they sign a new player, he's the 1st one over to their home to welcome them into the Chelsea family. You could see last season when Torres scored in the CL(I can't remember which game) but he ran the length of the pitch to congratulate him. Luis was lucky that it was him he sunk his teeth into last season. He accepted the apology from Suarez & moved on.

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I think it's more a case of incredulous shock than restraint.

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25 Jun 2014 14:00:59
What is the situation with Suarez after the biting of Giorgio Chiellini? Will Liverpool now willing to sell Suarez to Barcelona or Real Madris. Hoping for your reply.Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

25 Jun 2014 13:38:23
Hello. I have been following this site for a couple of years now and well I'll give this to Suarez - He has convinced me to register and post, well some thing good came out of his bite.
I'd like to join in on the discussion and just say this.
I love suarez, he's one of the most talented players I've ever seen grace the football pitch and there is something so lovely about the way he plays I just can't get enough of it.
That being said, I just can't defend this guy anymore for his behavior and I think what Liverpool should do is wait to find out how long his ban is and if it's not that much, sell him to the highest bidder. I'm sorry but 70 million pounds is looking like a very lovely sum after his most recent action. He is a liability and is at the risk of dragging the club down financially and also in terms of the image of Liverpool FC and by a subsequent ban also our ability to perform on the pitch. I would be happy with Sanchez as his replacement.
As we know, Sturridge can score goals and so can young sterling and coutinho. Keep Borini, sell Suarez and buy Sanchez. We have Lambert as well who's a proven goalscorer. Tighten up the defence and we won't have to score as much as we did last season to win the league.
It hurts me to say this, and some part of me really hopes it doesn't happen, but its time to let go of you Luis.
No player is bigger than the club. Torres was replaced with Luis. Luis can be and will be replaced.

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Welcome to the party. :)

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25 Jun 2014 14:48:38
Mikey

hahah lols. top draw

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25 Jun 2014 15:05:12
You need to get your blood checked man.

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25 Jun 2014 13:36:02
Thomo on the Sanchez rumour can be heard at 28.40

http://newstalk.ie/player/listen_back/5/10851/25th_June_2014_-_Breakfast_Part_3

I'm unsure but will post anyway.
Cheers, Ben

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25 Jun 2014 13:29:43
How do I explain this to my son who loves suarez as a player. it was hard enough last time. I see he could of been tryin to get a reaction to win a penalty. but come on. biting someone. in front of probably over 50 million viewers?

Im in australia and I got up at 2 am to watch him hopefully get a goal and celebrate a win.

No idea what the club do, I guess its in the hands of fifa now.

Rant over

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25 Jun 2014 14:58:00
Its very hard. He turned the whole world in 12 months, and it was certainly shaping to his best phase in his career.
Then you shoudl never forget he is Suarez.

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25 Jun 2014 13:27:59
FIFA have no jurisdiction, they may think they can ban Suarez from playing for Liverpool but they cant. If they attempt to ban him they will have to pay all his wages and Liverpool may even sue them because they will not be able to sell him on. Suarez was playing at their competition and had nothing to do with Liverpool at the time.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but you have no idea what you are talking about. He can be banned from all footballing activity, that is perfectly within FIFA's remit, just as it would be if he had been caught match fixing or taking PEDs. Stop dreaming.}

He can be banned from playing for Liverpool but I doubt it. A very long international ban would be more appropriate, Liverpool as a club has done so much for him despite all the negative press he brings the club, the club don't deserve to be stuck with him, unable to sell him because of a league ban. But we shall see what happens. I'm not sure if his past biting incidents come into the decision making this time because they where not on international duty.

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The longest ban Fifa have gave out at a World Cup was 8 matches when a player got his nose broke. I think Suarez might get a bit more. It depends I guess if they only look at this incident only? I don't know but I would guess he won't be banned from football entirely.

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Ed you want him sold?
I personally think he should be departed if he gets just an international ban
if a ban at all levels then we are screwed

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{Ed001's Note - I have never changed my opinion that he is too much trouble. If you keep players who are constantly misbehaving, no matter how good they are, it sends out the wrong message to the rest of the club. Discipline is a big part of winning things, while you can never stop people from making the choice to do the wrong thing, you have to be seen to treat all players equally or it creates dissension. If, for want of a better play to use, this was say Rossiter playing up, you would be able to say he is young and work on his issues to get him to understand what he is doing is wrong and change his ways. Suarez is not a kid, he is coming into his late 20s now, he has done this multiple times, he is not learning his lessons. I don't see how we can justify keeping him at the club, without him suffering the severest sanctions we can possibly apply. Even then I believe his position should be untenable. He has shown us no loyalty, with his constant pressure to allow him to leave, he deserves nothing from us.}

Absolutely bang on mate
you have pretty much summed up the reason for my outbursts on the banter page other
p.s you happy with the job we are doing there?

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate, how are you getting on with it? Enjoying the experience? Getting fed up of repeat questions yet?}

Loving it mate although I am pretty sure I will have to start pulling my hair sometimes in the future
p.s ed this may be the last week I will be able to do the editing for a while as my exams start next week
thought it'd be better to inform you

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Lifetime international ban, then we can at least get rid of him

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Good luck with the exams Reet. Guess I might be busy next week then . ;)

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Hey reet I feel sorry for you, you get to be guest ed just as it all kicks off. Haha

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25 Jun 2014 12:55:22
Ed001,

Do you believe Suarez has ruined our season already? If he is given a ban upheld by the FA (both our & other countries) then surely it will be near on impossible to sell him & with FFP pretty hard to replace him.

Is there any clarity on whether FIFA can impose bans on FA & UEFA competitions also?

Cheers,

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{Ed001's Note - I don't see how he has ruined our season? Even if the ban is for all footballing activities, which FIFA certainly have the power to do, then we just don't have him in the team. We are not ten men and Luis Suarez!}

I agree Ed.

Although if he does get baned from Epl also then surely we will have to sell him and replace him the best we can with what money we now get for him.

Bony and Sanchez would be nice

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25 Jun 2014 14:44:43
I understand that. But losing your top goalscorer without the means to replace him is a big blow, you can't deny that.

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{Ed001's Note - he was playing at the end of the season when we flopped so disastrously. Losing any first choice player is a blow, but it should be viewed as an opportunity for someone else to show what they can do. Like it was when he missed the first few games last season.}

25 Jun 2014 13:04:25
At the start of last season, Suarez didn't play 5 games, imagine if he did, would we of won the league? So if he stays, and he gets banned for x amounts of games, and were in the situation again. What would be your lots thoughts?

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12/24 month ban fellas an animal

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25 Jun 2014 12:53:54
Suarez actions were truly a disgrace and shameful to our club, yes. And it's sure made myself more open minded when it comes to a sale but with that said when popping over to the other page I was truly concerned by the f'ing and blinding shown by reet I fully understand he has his own opinion and it's his job over there to express it but modesty doesn't kill and just think back to ivanovic incident everyone said that's the second biting and I'm sure if you look back to that date on this page everyone was calling for his head back then aswell next season he knocks 30+goals in and it was hail suarez again I'm not condoning suarez' actions but I'm just saying before everyone goes overboard just think about what could happen next season because I'm almost certain that if he stays and we win the league or come close again it will be all hail suarez again once again to point out his actions were discussing and if it leads to him being sold then so be it but be careful you may just prove yourselves to be hypocrites in less then a years time.

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Mate he bit someone for the third time
ni point in defending him the club comes first
doesn't anyone feel cheated by what he has dine or am I the only one?

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It was bad reet, yes. But the point is everyone brushed the 1st time under the carpet when he signed for us. Then the evra incident, followed by the ivanovic incident purely because, as the OP says, Suarez performed incredibly.

Everyone is being hypocritical by taking offence at the THIRD time of asking! Not to mention evra and posturing for moves away.
Where was this outrage when any of our players have been in any other sort of trouble e.g drink driving charges or similar? Something that actually endangers lives! Take a good look at yourselves. P.S just to reiterate I think it was a disgusting act but don't jump on the bandwagon and act shocked. Is a murderer only evil after his 3rd kill?

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Hectiic
this time he has gone too far
this hss the potential to be disastrous if he gets a ban at all club levels it is not going to be a disaster financially
he has put the club in a 5hitty position

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Agree with you entirely. But if that's your argument then will you forgive him if he doesn't get banned for the club? Because let's face it, he has done no better or worse than the last twice. A bite is a bite. But everyone forgave him then.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry, I did no such thing as you are suggesting. I have never been happy with us signing him, and spoke out on here against the signing. I have always been of the view he is more trouble than he is worth, though I hoped he would prove me wrong. I certainly can not agree with your a bite is a bite. It is an extremely worrying reaction to turn and bite someone, it is not a standard reaction to lash out by biting. There is far more to this than whether it is dangerous or harmful. It is also the fact that he has repeated his idiotic and shameful actions that has to be considered. Once is a mistake that he should have learnt from. Twice is no longer a mistake, it is a problem. A third time shows that not only has he not learnt, but he is consistently responding that way. It is now time to accept that is a part of his make up and respond accordingly, be it with a ban, fine, whatever.}

I am not saying a bite is a bite in a nonchalant sense ed. What I am saying is that people are making out like this time his bite was worse than previous occasions.

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HeCTiiC mate, are you for real mate? do you not understand that this is his third time? people are not making out that this is worse because of the degree he sunk his teeth in. its his third time, that is the reason mate.

If your wife rejects you in bed once, hey that's a worry. but 3 times? somethings going on mate, surely.

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He needs a 2year ban what if he gave some one hepatitas bout time the police got involved

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25 Jun 2014 10:19:19
Hi Ed002,
do you think another biting incident will make the sell of LS harder/impossible during the upcoming transfer window? Do you think the club will be able to get what they expect for LS even after yesterday? thanks

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't know Tom.}

25 Jun 2014 12:22:32
Cynical view but with all the money in football these days football hasn't got a great moral ethic to begin win.

Liverpool could sell suarez as a result but why? So Real /Barca et all can snap him up at a possible reduced price and not give a **** about what he's done. Goals would come next and a month or 2 down the line everyone in madrid would have Suarez shirts on.

My advice would be to let the storm pass and let Suarez take what punishment is handed ( which FYI he clearly deserves)




As much as pool should sell him, no one should buy him either,

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25 Jun 2014 12:43:00
I wouldn't be surprised, If that's exactly what's FSG thinking right now.
They will have just one qustion to BR. Are we better off him or not?

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Still better off with him. Even if he gets a ban which he deserves, will come back and score a bag full of hatricks plus in time Dr Peter's will be able to cure his vampire tendencies which for the most part of last season was in check. Would much rather have his warped passion than a sulking Torres type player.

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As dirty as it makes me feel, I agree with Glowbrix and Chris T. There's all manner of nasty stuff going on in football. Suarez is the tip of the iceberg. The guy's a complete immoral person but a great footballer. Couldn't care less about him as a person really so just ban Suarez and sell him for a stupid amount of money or get him scoring hat tricks for us next year and when he's no good we can move on to another work unit.

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Couldn't agree more, Glowbrix. let's deal with the situation and keep it in some sort of context. The moral double standards of some of the people commenting on this is staggering and nauseating.

Football is full of odious characters, I can name at leats ten in the premiership that i'd consider worst than Suarez. Gladly we don't take a moral lead from them, we just watch them play football, which is how it should be.

I won't name names, but whilst there are certain individuals still allowed to ply their trade after some serious moral misdemeanours then Suarez should be allowed, after punishment, to continue his.

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25 Jun 2014 15:16:56
They will definitely have a better question than that to BR.

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I couldn't disagree more, with global media reporting on his third, yes third assault of another player, what message does that send to children who are most influenced by their so called heros. Double standards, I think not, if some nut job bit me while playing 5 aside for instance I would be straight down the police. Its disgusting and not tolerable in any situation. If I was chiellini I would not limit it to just action from fifa who I believe will be as lenient as they think they can get away with personally. Time for him to go and disgrace the name of another club I think.

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25 Jun 2014 12:15:29
Hi eds Jackson Martinez would love him at anfield

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25 Jun 2014 11:59:18
RE: "laughable excuse" I was not making excuses for anyone! I was trying to point out that Chellini is no angel, in fact he is a thug, Suarez is mentally challenged and once again rubs our name in the mud, read the post again and try to do it without prejudice!

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25 Jun 2014 12:13:50
Zidane has had head butt more than 5 occassions in his life.

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Cantona kung fu kicked a supporter. Did Fergie get rid?

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{Ed001's Note - did he then do it again?}

25 Jun 2014 14:24:12
I think you will find MUFC banned Cantona for 4 months. We didn't make 'Support Cantona' warm up t-shirts either.

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{Ed001's Note - besides the point, the point is he only did it once, this is not a first offence, so it can not be held up as a comparison.}

25 Jun 2014 11:57:30
I think he did it to try and win a penalty.
They're going out of the World Cup, he's just missed a chance, he needs to something.
He decides to bite Chiellini in the hope no-one sees and that Chiellini elbows him in the face and then he gets a penalty.
When he did it against Chelsea he'd just given away a penalty and we were losing.
I think it's more calculated than him juts being mad

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25 Jun 2014 12:14:45
Then He is an person. Thank God, he didn't tried anything with the fans.

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Sorry Harry?

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25 Jun 2014 12:46:45
Trying something when the ball is nowhere near to his feet to win penalty?
He lost it completly.

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25 Jun 2014 11:55:36
you's are all barking mad. how will this drive his price down? his price is what it is, pay it an get him or we keep him an deal with the issues. a lot of people like to over complicate things.

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25 Jun 2014 12:15:47
BR will not sell him under any circumstance, Dreaming of a Title is much bigger than any kinds Nuisence he makes outside Liverpool

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25 Jun 2014 12:28:07
It is likely to be outside BR's hands. FSG and corporate sponsors will have biggest say. The whole thing reduces Suarez price (not value) because it totally weakens LFC's negotiating position. Impending or potential suspensions; image rights etc

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25 Jun 2014 12:44:59
Corporate sponsers don't give a damm about anything apart from their benifit and money, If So He would stay with Liverpool.
They wouldn't cast anyway, Henderson or Allen in thier future Adds.

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25 Jun 2014 13:45:38
Of course their only interested in their investment but who'd want to sponsor a club whose main asset is vilified in the media; constantly at risk of suspension while being paid top dollar?

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Who was it who said no publicity is bad publicity. Off the back of the Ivanovic incident Suarez got an ad campaign in S. America (some thing in an office). If you sponsor him (and his club) you can guarantee your product will constantly be in the limelight. Also you are in the limelight with him and the biting inciden, and then further down the line when all this sh*te has blown over and you still have one of the best forwards in the world helping promote your product and scoring a hatful of goals! Of course some sponsors will walk away because that is also headline grabbing and therefore good publicity. Do you think the top european clubs care about this? They consistently buy the bad boys, like Balotelli and Maradonna in his day.

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25 Jun 2014 15:44:58
Fortunately, BR doesn't alone have the power to decide whether he stays or not.

He will leave.

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25 Jun 2014 15:46:57
Are these the same sponsors who nearly pulled out when Suarez was involved in the Evra incident?

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25 Jun 2014 11:41:29
The first suarez Bite and Liverpool bought him the second suarez bite and every other club on the planet was willing to buy him arsenal even bid for him and the third suarez bite will it make any difference?i think clubs will still come for him and we better sell he might go on and bite someone every other season he just can't control it.

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25 Jun 2014 11:18:17
I didn't want Suarez to go but I was resigned to losing him before this latest incident as I thought we would get a big offer of £70m plus and that he would want to go, however now It wouldn't bother me if we do sell him, I just hope we can get a fair price, I can't agree with fellow posters defending this saying its not as bad as a leg breaker etc but while I know the result ( bite mark) is not that bad, biting is just not acceptable in the same way as spitting which doesn't injure anyone but it is universally frowned upon.
Sorry to say he has let himself, his country, LFC and our supporters down badly. If he does stay for whatever reason we will all be on a knife edge every game waiting for the next instalment.
A flawed genius.

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25 Jun 2014 12:16:54
Alan

TBH, If he does stay with Liverpool, I could see him breaking his own record for most goals scored.
He is some kinda a strange perosn.

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If we had a sheikh as our owner the I won't really care how much we sell him, but we don't and I expect fsg to get the best deal possible if real or barca come calling
This shouldn't be the reason we sell him, it has to be due to the money we are getting

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25 Jun 2014 10:55:56
The emotive responses to the latest Suarez debacle are oversimplifying what has in fact several dimensions to it all of which will contribute to a greater or lesser effect to its outcome.
Firstly is the moral/ethical/cultural issue. Suarez is a product of the Uruguay streets where the sort of behaviour he all too readily displays stems from survival instincts. There is a compelling argument that his prodigious talent is simply another reflection of his will to win and overcome obstacles that we in Europe don't face and hence his blindness to and failure to understand the condemnation he gets. The fact remains that whilst it is true that biting perhaps carries less potential for harm than other forms of physical assault (Keane, Barton, Zidane etc) biting is particularly offensive in Europe and we cannot accept it on the field. Unfortunately it seems that his predilection to biting is as instinctive and impulsive as the anticipation and skill he showed against England and which was universally praised and I don't think that treatment, mentoring, counselling will have any effect and that the constant risk goes with the man.
Secondly is the football issue. This is currently a FIFA matter and the initial action will be taken by them. We have to recognise however that when any LFC player is on international duty he is representing the club and in the World Cup on a global stage. We recognise and accept that by basking in the glory of good performances by LFC players. We cannot wring our hands and say "nothing to do with us - he was playing for Uruguay". We therefore have to accept the downsides as well. I don't know whether any action taken by FIFA will affect LFC but LFC have to take their own action against Suarez for besmirching the name and image of the club. It is a cop out to say he is too valuable a player. Magnificent footballer though he is LFC cannot run the risk of ever escalating suspensions keeping off the field for prolonged periods.
Thirdly is his transfer value. Let's not kid ourselves that no-one will want him. Real Madrid don't have qualms about the personal characteristics of galacticos and they will still be interested in him if they believe he will strengthen the team. What it does do however is reduce LFC's negotiating position regarding a fee. LFC's position is completely undermined because of their need to get rid and the continuous threat of suspension. It may marginally help if FIFA impose only an international ban but the fact is he has become a severely impaired asset for Livepool.
Finally and possibly most important the business issue. It is LFC's sponsors who will have the biggest influence. The Blue Chip brands which LFC have attracted do not want to be associated with a tarnished image and they will therefore expect LFC to take whatever action is most appropriate to protect their investment and you can bet that if they haven't started already they will soon. I hope Ian Ayre is back from his holidays but don't expect him to spending much time on transfers.

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25 Jun 2014 12:25:30
Beem

With all respect to you. ". Suarez is a product of the Uruguay streets. ". This is absolutely stuppid.

Messi has served tea in his past. So as Ronaldo and many many footballers. RONALDINHO learned his tricks from the streets in Brazil.

TBH, Its better to learn the hard way of life from streets than JACK WILSHER AND ROSS BARKLEY.

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Theres a great article on espn about saurez where he came from its quite a good read but upbringing is no excuse just thought i'd mention the article in case any 1 wants a read

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25 Jun 2014 13:35:00
I am not excusing his behaviour. It was reprehensible and I don't think he should play for LFC again but he doesn't see anything wrong because that is natural (instinctive) behaviour to him and consequently there is always the risk that he will do it again (as he has proved). Some can adapt to different conditions but LS doesn't seem able and will always be a ban waiting to happen.

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Psychologists say biting is an emotional response. Nothing to do with where you grow up but possibly how you grew up.

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Yeah but most of you lot grew up in Liverpool and none of you go round biting people lol

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You're wasting your time BeeM.

The (politely) rather silly responses you received speak for themselves. You're hardly speaking to a bunch of PhDs.

There's some gold there isn't there though, eh.

lol.

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25 Jun 2014 10:50:28
Maybe Suarez should have ran to the referee to show him his swollen cheekbone and eye socket after being elbowed in the face. Mind you, doubt anyone would bat an eyelid because of who's on the receiving end. Too many one eyed people.

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He got elbowed due to him biting cheileini was trying to get him off

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I wouldn't want to fall out with Chielleni myself big man if i'm honest Suarez was lucky he asn't having a bad day or we might be saying Suarez if Suarez hadent bit him he wouldn't have a broken nose

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25 Jun 2014 10:37:39
Seems Uruguay FA has decided too defend the stiker, Claiming the Marks on Chiellini were Photoshoped Edited.

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25 Jun 2014 10:36:25
Whilst I cannot and do not defend Suarez, s latest biting incident I will support every and each player who plays in a red shirt. This latest incident happened while he played for his country, not Liverpool. I understand the clubs wanting and needing to please the sponsors but let's all wait a while and let things settle before we get the hangmans noose out. Yes he has some kind of mental issues and the club has stuck by him before but maybe now is the time for the club to make a decision regarding his future. If this happened again in a Liverpool shirt then I would have no hesitation in putting him up for sale and getting the best deal possible but it was, nt, it was in a national shirt. People are acting judge and jury less than 12 hours after the incident. Let the international board decide his fate and then, and only then, the club will decide on the impact caused to the reputation of the club. He is already facing the wrath of the English media for effectively knocking England out of the world cup without this biting incident. We cannot keep saying that there is a fine line between genius and madman. Something will happen but let, s not hang him before the jury sits and decides the outcome. Brilliant player, yes. Madman, yes. Can we help him, no. Whilst he remains a Liverpool player then he will have my support. If and when he goes he will have my respect as a player who gave 100% for Liverpool

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He no longer has my support.this isn't the first time he has done something really stupid

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25 Jun 2014 12:58:20
Jessie

Same here mate, But imagine he scores 3 against UTD at OT nutmugging their new recruits.

Certainly Possible, And on current form in the league Only he could do it.

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Imagine he does it again in the last game of the season with 40m-60m riding on a 4th placed finish. He's dismissed and banned for 20 games. His value halves and he hits out at the club for putting too much pressure on him to deliver. Says he wants out because the FA pick on him. Still pleased with that OT hatrick?

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Anfield boy
Imagine if he does, nt do it again and wins us the league. His value will go up again. This is the here and now, not ifs and buts. Let's just sit back and see what happens.

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He is getting banned 12/24 months he is an animal and stop spouting bollo.bout he from uragray didn't see his team mates biting anyone

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Robbie

Did you say that last time as well? Will Suarez be under more or less pressure now? Does that make an irrational response more or less likely? We need to rid ourselves of him. The club is bigger than this.

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25 Jun 2014 07:41:03
Hi eds.

Only slightly Liverpool related. I just wondered how highly thought of Jurgen klinsman is? In the media / football world. I know we apparently spoke to him once. He has an insanely long contract with the USA - just curious.

Great work as always
Tom

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{Ed001's Note - depends on who you talk to really. Some think he was lucky, though the USA's good results in this World Cup will give those a little pause for thought, I am sure.}

25 Jun 2014 09:37:26
Did anyone get onto the fact the ref from "that" games nickname was "dracula"? Couldn't make it up.

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25 Jun 2014 09:30:44
Can't believe that people are defending Luis over his latest bite incident. One poster even blamed Chiellini!

I felt he was leaving anyway and his comments about the press last week strengthened my thought on this. I think that the bite was pre meditated to manufacture a move away so we had no choice.

As the eds said morals go out the window if the player is good enough. Someone will still buy him!

The old Liverpool would never accept this and the modern one shouldn't either.

We tried to support him but he just reverts to his old self.

Sell him and move on.

Excellent player, poor sportsman.

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25 Jun 2014 11:17:47
L4

As much As I want him to be sold, Where would you want us to move on?.

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Home fan. You response makes no sense.

Are you referring to what player/s we should bring in?

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25 Jun 2014 12:41:34
L4

I am reminding you what we did with 50 quids we had from Torres and where our club ended up for the past 4 years.

He has done something which has no excuse, But then He does thing on the pitch which is irreplaceble.

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Suarez is good, but no one is irreplaceble.

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25 Jun 2014 09:57:13
Morning Ed's and Reds,
Luis Suarez is a footballing genius (not like David Moyes but a real one) who brings creativity to our squad which we have lacked since Kenny Dalglish. If he were to leave us then we will struggle to improve on last seasons heroic effort unless we receive an astronomical amount of cash for him and invest it wisely. Until he bit Giorgio Chiellini he was being linked with leaving and joining Barcelona but will they now decide that he is too much of a liability or will they peruse him regardless. Whoever bids for him will try to knock down the price due to his mentality and his fondness of long bans which I cannot see our board allowing. Our investors know LS is crazy and are all business men first and foremost so will not let his latest escapade distract us from reaching our goals. If he is sold it will be for a record fee for us and if he stays he will be an integral part of our team as long as he doesn't get banned by FIFA. We all know what Suarez is like so it is time to wait for the verdict and then move on.

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25 Jun 2014 11:07:58
I agree to you, and that's the fear which is growing with large part of Liverpool fans outside, You can't blme them
Spending the last 5 years outside top 6 and then this genius take the club to the next level.

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25 Jun 2014 09:15:08
Hey reds and Ed's first of all would like to say Suarez should get a two year international ban, then would LFC to come out and release a statement to basically say we at Liverpool like to give people second chances, but we can't condone luis Suarez behaviour we gave him help for his previous actions, but this is not befitting Liverpool and we will put him up for sale etc etc, yes buying clubs will use this to there advantage, it's a shame because he's my fav player but enough is enough and were best to get shot of him. Cheers

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25 Jun 2014 09:34:07
LFC will never say publicly he is for sale. That would be plain stupid.

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Suarez staying at Liverpool does not tranish Liverpool's image in any way.
Our player has a reputation but when he played for Liverpool the whole of last season his behavior was impeccable.
So, are you made of Gold? I don't care what my player does away on international duty, he is my player, plays for my club and I will take the rough with the smooth. Liverpool knew how to help him, help he certainly needs to manage his aggression, and will continue to do so. Sell him? For a lower value? Are you totally out of it or are you a Manc or something.
Get real, Suarez will get a yellow, and FIFA will sweep this under the carpet. It's only us in England that ooh and aah more than any other nation. What's funnier is Chiellini, one of the least moral defenders, now playing the victim. What a joke. Sell Suarez? You must be mad!

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25 Jun 2014 10:15:33
How does the buying club would have an advantage?. Its not the money that matters here, Its the player any club would want for the enxt 4-5 years.

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100% agree, time for him to move on

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25 Jun 2014 12:09:35
Are you all above so confident of him being sold, because we are in CL, Mind you it won't take much time to go back to 7th, If you don't have some world class in your team.
I want him to be sold. But I am ready to face the consq

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25 Jun 2014 09:08:56
Luis Suarez is undeniably one of the most gifted footballers of the modern generation and Liverpool Football Club has both suffered and benefited from his talent. Prior to the Italy game I was of the opinion that he would most likely leave this summer. I believe he will still leave and Liverpool would still command a fee of at least £50 million. We are also in the Champions League as a result of a great TEAM effort last season. Last season, the profile of the club was raised for all the right reasons and if Suarez stays that would no doubt affect the global image of the club in a negative way. I'm disappointed in you Luis and it's time to part ways. You are now written in football history as a true football talent, one of LFC's greatest and a fool!

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25 Jun 2014 10:20:19
Mickey

I am not in for any kinda global image here. We lost the ground long long time back. Therz nothing much to loose. We have been financially weak from quiet a long time.
Suarez Apparently have been the only world class player we have had in nearly 5 years.
He could single handedly take a team to title and he showed it last year.

But I still want him to be sold. But no doubt He is an excellent player, and very hard to replace no matter how he leaves the club.

The shame and gut geelinsg right now on all the Liverpool fans head is exactly the same when you would finish 7th and 8th. Therz not much of a difference.

But TBH I don't see him to get sold. FSG are real business class, And He is their best product to gamble.

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25 Jun 2014 09:08:35
Official statement : "Fifa can confirm that disciplinary proceedings have been opened against the player Luis Suarez of Uruguay following an apparent breach of art. 48 and/or art. 57 of the Fifa Disciplinary Code during the 2014 Fifa World Cup Brazil match Italy-Uruguay played on 24 June 2014. According to art. 77 lit. a of the Fifa Disciplinary Code (FDC), the Fifa Disciplinary Committee is responsible for sanctioning serious infringements which have escaped the match officials' attention. Furthermore, according to art. 96 of the FDC, any type of proof may be produced (par. 1), in particular are admissible, reports from referees, declarations from the parties and witnesses, material evidence, audio or video recordings (par. 3)."

The article further states that: "If found guilty, Suarez will almost certainly miss the rest of the World Cup, and could receive a ban of up to 24 matches or two years, which could affect his club career as well as international football."

Suarez is quoted to have said: "these things happen inside the penalty area. We were chest against shoulder. I also immediately suffered a blow to the eye."

Suarez has until this afternoon to prepare his defense.

Incredible how ONE MINUTE on the football field can change everything for the next season, the next decade etc, etc, etc. I'm not being overly dramatic. Just reminding those who are suggesting calm to see that the future course for the team has once again been changed, drastically.

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25 Jun 2014 09:55:16
Correct ra 1969 , you are not being overly dramatic , we have just seen £80 million pounds wiped off the club's balance sheet in just a few seconds , so , from a purely business sense , this incident will impact our finances for at least the next decade .

That does not include the withdrawal of sponsorship monies .

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25 Jun 2014 09:35:52
How can it affect his club career?

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He was out with his country and away from Dr Peters for some weeks and look what happened.

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Real AG - I guess it depends on the type and scope of action that FIFA decides to take. Most agree that some type of ban will happen. It could be just for the World Cup, for Uruguay only or it could be worldwide. And even if he is not banned for playing with LFC, the English FA could decide to go along with the ban even if they are not asked to. Remember that when Eric Cantona was banned by the English FA for 9 months (for his Bruce Lee impersonation on a fan) it was a worldwide ban? Many possibilities.

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25 Jun 2014 09:05:44
I supported him during the Evra incident, I supported him after the Ivanovic incident, but I can´t defend the indefencible here. He has bitten someone again. He could be banned for a very long time and not just for the World Cup. His utter stupidity may leave him out of the league AGAIN for however long he gets punished for. He is fantastic, he has been terrific this season, but he and his issues / ego are above his responsibilities as a Liverpool Player, clearly. Aside from the fact that he has behaved disrespectfully towards the club on several occasions with the nonsense he has sprouted before, this is indefencible. No "lets put this into perspective", no "people have done far worse than this". After all the support he received in the past he has shamed himself, his country, his teammates and us, AGAIN. Here we are, with a Champions League spot, ready to build up on that and what does he do? He doesn´t care, that's what he does. I say sell him and buy players that don´t screw their fans, country, clubs, teammates and managers over.

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25 Jun 2014 10:22:01
Therz a difference What you actually feel and what you would when others point to you.
Either Case I want him to be sold, because that's the limit.
But then get ready to face the cons.
And don't worry about the footballing world. They would get another one in less than 24 hours.

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Not sure they can ban him from prem games

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25 Jun 2014 08:52:06
I, like most others, have the utmost admiration
for Suarez the footballer, however several posters
here are trying to do comparisons between biting
and other forms of violent conduct. This is a
pointless exercise. Luis Suarez has demonstrated
yet again that he is unbalanced and needs
professional help. I fear that this may have to
take place during a prolonged absence from the
football field

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25 Jun 2014 09:44:30
Puzzled, I agree with Suarez getting himself professional help and as long as after he has taken the time off he comes back to us a better person I am all in favour. He came back from his last prolonged absence and found the net 31 times in 33 games and was instrumental in our excellent season.

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25 Jun 2014 08:48:41
Suarez obviously has some sort of mental issues as he can't control anger and resorts to the sort of action he probably took as a frustrated toddler.
I genuinely believe that if he were to come out and say
"I have an issue that I can't control, I need help" and he then seeked professional assistance, then he may be treated more leniently by the governing bodies.
I don't believe he will do this however, therefore I believe we must sell.
I don't believe Real or Barca will drop their interest but they'll sure as hell be smart enough to pretend that it bothers them just enough to get the price down.
Get as much as we can, target a quality replacement and move on

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25 Jun 2014 09:37:17
Couldn't agree more.

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25 Jun 2014 10:23:13
Chris

I agree with you mate, that's the first thing He or any club should consider. This is some sorta kind and srange behaviour. I don't think the bite or the incident was a preplanned or intentional.

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Great post Chris. Let's hope that we can still get a decent fee for him, because I do worry that we will see an Arsenal type bid accepted this time round just to get him out of the club.

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25 Jun 2014 08:43:58
Does anyone else think, Suarez's bite could had been partially due to the absence of Steve Peters (our Sports Physchariast), I know he was at LFC during the Ivanavic one but he only really focused on helping Suarez last season and last season, Suarez really looked like he'd turned a corner, probably just coincendence but just a thought.

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25 Jun 2014 09:38:48
Are you kidding? You mean he has to be reminded every time he goes out into the civilization, that he cannot bite people?

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Could be or his national manager pumped him up so much instead of BR's help and dr Peters calming influence which worked all last season. Suarez has a red mist problem which I believe he cannot control, but for what he gave us last season we just can't throw him under the bus.

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As being from the other side of the park.i knew it would not be long before you started to look for an excuse for what he has done to an other human being. this is totally unbelevable .the TRUTH is in the pictures. Liverpool fc should now put him up for sale and protect there reputation. a fantastic player with out doubt. but to support him after doing this on the world stage may be one step to far. we will now wait and see what your club statement says.

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25 Jun 2014 08:42:40
I have been one of Suarez biggest supporters but I can't defend him anymore. I hate to say it but I don't see him pulling on the red shirt ever again. He is a genius but a footballer is no good in the stands. My biggest worry is that he will be banned from all football. I hope it's an international ban so we can cash in on him. I think the owners will say enough is enough.

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25 Jun 2014 09:39:29
I don't know if he can be banned form Club Football. Maybe the Eds can clear that up?

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{Ed001's Note - FIFA have the power to ban anyone from any involvement in football of any kind, if they wish to do so.}

25 Jun 2014 08:39:58
I am shocked at how many people are defending Suarez. I loved this guy in a Liverpool shirt but we cannot stand by and defend him. He has embarrassed our club once again.

I'm not demanding we sell him and I will leave it up to the club what we do with him but at the same time I won't desperately try and thinly defend him because he is a special player.

Anyone looking to defend him now need to pull your heads out of the clouds

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25 Jun 2014 10:27:56
87 Red

I have been his biggest fan here, Not anymore.

The one who is defending his actions are those fans who thinks we would go back again to 7th and 8th.
You cannot convince lot many fans outside Liverpool who actually have never seen the club instead support the club. For them to drag back into midtable is a big pain.

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25 Jun 2014 08:38:53
Absolutely gutted that he has done this AGAIN and has tarnished our great club. It surely leaves us with no choice but to sell him? Assuming we will be able to move him on ant clubs don't drop there interest. Is it true Ed that Lfc have a meeting planned today to discuss the situation?

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25 Jun 2014 08:24:20
Hi Eds and fellow Reds.

I've woken up to hear the media and everyone moaning about Suarez biting. Why o why are we still going on about Suarez biting that player when he was at Ajax?

Whisper, whisper.

What do you mean it's not that one? Oh, so were still having a go at him for biting Ivanovic, jeez wish everyone would just move on we all make mistakes ya know!

Whisper, whisper.

What, he's done it again? Oh you person Suarez, right that's it.

Sound of footsteps.
Sound of light being switched off.
Grabs coat.
Sound of door being slammed.

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25 Jun 2014 08:13:52
Eds/Reds - without wanting to jump on any Saurez bandwagon, I loved him through the Evra incident & even loved him quietly through the Chelsea incident! now I was devastated last night to find out that he has brought Liverpool down again, but I LOVED him! & then 2 hours later I was watching a game that had 2 footballers playing within a week of the death of their brother & I thought that one of them started the season quite well for us & then faded away & I made a decision that he wasn't the man for Liverpool but I've not seen any reports on him complaining or demanding things from the club. It certainly looks like he has kept his silence. & even last night when they both must have been under so much pressure they conducted themselves very well!
so I have spent 3 years backing someone that looks like all he cares about is himself & a full season suggesting that Kolo isn't good enough but this morning I would only want one of those guys back in my squad next season!

incredibly let down Liverpool fan

Luigi Riva

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25 Jun 2014 08:04:53
Brendan Rodgers " We need hungry players to win the Tittle "

Not today Brendan, Not today.

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25 Jun 2014 09:40:51
Hahah. That was funny!

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You win the internet. Congratulations

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25 Jun 2014 10:28:33
chianti and fava beans all round!

it's absolutely mental of course but all the talk of 2 years is silly. 20 matches maybe. and psychotherapy.

and more psychotherapy.

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25 Jun 2014 07:55:59
Too many people are saying that perspective on the bite means more leniency. From my perspective Suarez has repeatedly committed this offense. Something that is unacceptable in the first instance.
Now for me he is still a top player and I am looking thinking that he has obviously had not contact with the club Sports Psychologist, who has been with the England team.
However, Fifa rules state that they can impose up to a maximum of 2 year or 24 match worldwide ban. So, that top player might not play until Christmas on the 24 matches or 2 years.
Now, does this change anyones perspective? Blatter will ensure they come down heavily on this embarrassment which has now been witnessed by the entire world, by a repeat offender. We also have to think about Liverpool sponsors, I imagine they have a big say in what goes on moving forward.

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25 Jun 2014 07:46:33
What Suarez has done is damaging and embarassing. He is a crazed fool who should be sold as soon as a club meets his release clause.

People calling for massive bans need to wind their necks in though. If you geneuinely think a nip of the shoulder is worse than a headbutt to the nose or a studs up fly kick to the chest of a fan (or Alonso) you are mad. Alex Song for example ramming his elbow into the Croatians spine; that carries a serious risk of paralysis. Zidane's headbutt was with such force it could comfortably have stopped Materazzi's heart on the spot.

What he did deserves a big ban on the international stage, no doubt. But punishing Liverpool for something he did whilst in Brazil playing for Uruguay in a tournament we have nothing to do with is ridiculous. He deserves a 24 game or 2 year ban from international football. Nothing more, nothing less. That is based purely on the fact he has a history of the offence.

I'm embarssed to have supported the fiend, but I'm not going to jump on the "life time ban" bandwagon because quite simply, you see worse things than this every week in football. I mean Jesus Christ, Ashley Cole shot someone with an air rifle! Marlon King and Nile Ranger anyone?! Just try and put this into perspective lads. Suarez is a fool, and we should get rid because I don't want players like him here.

If he gets anything like a life time ban for this or a ban from all football, then the Football associations want to look themselves in the face and start questioning their own integrity. They are using Suarez as a scapegoat for everything wrong in football purely because he's an easy target (down to his own actions). Jermaine Defoe bit someone and got a yellow card. If they want to stop this from happening, you don't go mad on one player just because his form of violence was mad and completely wierd. You make all forms of deliberate GBH an instant 6 month ban; everything from a pinch to a spinebuster. Using Suarez just to make an example is just pathetic and a typical media over reaction.

On one final note, I'll reiterate that I hope Luis never plays for us again. Whilst I have the ability to step back and view this in an unbiased manner, I don't want Liverpool associated with him. I bought my 1 year old nephew a Liverpool shirt for his 1st birthday last month. His mother last night handed it back to me because it has Suarez written across the back of it. That is the effect Suarez has on our club. Nobody wants to support us because one of our players is embarassing. Absolutely disgusting that my nephew might end up a Toffee or a United fan because of the man being a total utter 'more on'.

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25 Jun 2014 09:40:04
Spot on EMS.

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Totally spot on EMS.

We bought a Ferrari with dodgy steering. We took it to that new garage up the road 'Brendan Rogers Repairs'. They cleaned it up and attempted to fix the steering. They struggled so got a steering specialist in called Steve Peters. It seemed it was fixed and we finally got some breathtaking mileage out of our award winning Ferrari. But what do you know. The steering is knackered again.

Time to get rid I think.

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25 Jun 2014 10:30:18
YNWAdam

I want him out from the club mate. I know how much I am hurt while saying this. But not any more. I can't take it.
He is a world class gifted ROV. Who could do wonders on pitch. No question about it.
But then there is a line, which none should cross.

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Perfect example Balotelli's yellow card in the same game

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25 Jun 2014 07:29:08
BR has really been praising our psychiatrist. ed001 I'd appreciate if you chimed in on this one. Do you guys think that he held some talks with suarez about keeping his composure at LFC and the lack of his presence maybe spilled over into this fiasco?

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Don't be daft.
He's a grown man he should need someone holding his hand everywhere he goes.

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We let him away from Dr Peters for too long and look what happened.

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25 Jun 2014 07:21:09
We could have got 70 million or more for him if we sell now for what 25 why should we loose money

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25 Jun 2014 07:06:01
This is a genuine suggestion.

We've seen in recent years helmets and phantom of the opera style masks used as protective headgear in football. Why can't Suarez wear a muzzle? Would stop him biting anyone (or saying something stupid)?

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25 Jun 2014 06:50:37
"No great genius has ever existed without some touch of Madness". The fact that he has done it again in spite that he was sanctioned for it in the past, I strongly believe that the biting habit is beyond him. He cannot controls himself and I am sure he has not done it intentionally. I also believe that he should not be sanctioned by the FIFA.

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WoW he should be permanently banned from world cups and international tournaments for the rest of his career, 3 Times totally inexcusable.

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25 Jun 2014 06:38:43
I See how most fans are coming out and calling for Suarez head. At the end of the day we are mediocre without him. I'm not crying about a bite the football world in uproar it's just sad, he's obviously got something wrong with him and needs help.
From footballing side alone we cannot compete for the league/champions league without Luis Suarez.
Sponsors, owners, all these perfect fans, we can't compete and it's going to be blown outa proportion because he's one of the best players in the world that plays for LIVERPOOL

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25 Jun 2014 06:14:04
For anyone who had any doubt, see the animated gif below. I'm just so disappointed in him, I really thought he had turned a corner.

Animated gif of the Luis Suarez bite on Giorgio Chiellini
http://a.pomf.se/phdzcy.gif

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25 Jun 2014 06:07:20
Off the topic of Suarez, Ed002, any developments on Alberto Moreno? Thank you.

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{Ed002's Note - He didn't bite anyone yesterday.}

Funny

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25 Jun 2014 06:06:50
As much as I respect and completely understand Ed002's and others' views on Suarez (and am seriously pissed with him right now), I don't agree with them. I think he is a decent guy off the pitch (he has held a stable relationship for years, he doesn't seem flashy or arrogant and he never comes across as a nasty guy in interviews) but he has deep rooted mental issues.

His will to win is extraordinary- he takes competitive to a new level, and occasionally (usually when his team is losing), in a blind flash of rage, he does something rash, stupid and pointless.

I'm not trying to justify what he has done or sweep it under the carpet in any way, but I agree with what Ian Wright said earlier; I feel sorry for Suarez, because he has serious issues. Forgive me for getting philosophical here, but no-one is born evil, and I don't think Suarez is the exception to this rule- he is not some demon sent from Hell to gleefully wreak havoc on the footballing world with his mischievous teeth, he is a decent guy who has flashes of idiocy that have caused, on balance, because there is no doubt that he is a world class striker, more trouble than he is worth to the club.

Unfortunately, I feel his position at Liverpool has become untenable, but this act of stupidity and (presumably) the resultant ban could cost the club tens of millions pounds in any transfer fee if he were to leave- who could blame Real Madrid or Barcelona if they aren't willing to pay £67m or whatever the fee is (or would have been) for a player who, though unquestionably gifted, is obviously unstable and a liability. A tragic waste of talent.

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25 Jun 2014 06:06:17
Can we PLEASE have a Suarez tab. its doing my head in coming on this site and having to sift through piles of crap just to get to a post about something else

also Ken Aguero needs to stop spouting nonsense about HIV, Hep B and Hep C. its embarrassing

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I was actually thinking the same. We need a Suarez page. And the eds say this isn't good for sponsors. Any press is good press. Bet your hits have gone through the roof overnight.

And yeah Ken chill your beans pal

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{Ed001's Note - not really made much difference to be honest, we have just changed 'is X (who just happened to have a good game last night but that isn't why I am asking honest) going to sign for us' questions, to Suarez talk. It certainly won't help us in terms of income. Just as it will not help the club and you are displaying a massive amount of ignorance by suggesting otherwise. The major brands have reputations, they believe, to protect, they want to be associated with products that match the image they want to portray. That is not some whackjob biting people.}

Actually Alfie, I just checked the stats and they were down on the previous day and the previous Tuesday. Normally during a major tournament page views increase as it goes along, so it is certainly not responsible for any good reaction on our sites.

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25 Jun 2014 06:05:30
This evenings events regarding Suarez biting again has put the club in a very difficult situation and let them down again badly.
He did it the 1st time at Ajax to fabricate a move. He tried it again at Liverpool but did not work. What is his reasoning this time?
The ramifications are enormous for the club.
Who would want to buy someone with a lengthy ban hanging over them?
Do Liverpool now have to buy without selling him whilst he serves his ban hitting the finances?
The Sponsors will not be happy as Ed002 has said.
He is called a magician on the pitch, now he is going to do his best trick ever. Now you see him now you don't--BANNED.

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25 Jun 2014 06:04:35
Once again the imbecile comes out to play, most probably as he's a nutcase who loves to drag this clubs reputation through the mud and certainly because he yet again wants a move away,
This club has been built on good values and anyone condoning this behaviour needs their heads testing, the club once again will be explaining to sponsors etc this mans actions and trying to make sure and give assurances that it will not be happening in a red shirt,
Well hopefully it wont, when he's sold to the highest bidder, get him away from Anfield and packed off sharpish he's a million away from the likes of Gerrard and Sturridge who represent this great club so well and proudly too,
I for one have had it with this clown and for once agree with everything good old Ed002 has to say on the matter, dumbstruck for the first time ever
YNWA JFT96

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25 Jun 2014 05:24:05
I guess biting someone is easier than submitting a transfer request. I think that Suarez may have just engineered his move out of the club.

I suspect our sponsors will not be too pleased, and this is what concerns me the most.

I will be glad when the sideshow that is Suarez is over. I wish him luck in Spain.

I feel for the owners, Ayre and Rodgers now. They are in a tough position.

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25 Jun 2014 03:34:34
Whatever the motivation, the conspiracies, the passion/madness, the genius, the bloke himself is a guy who purposely aims to harm another person.

It's a conscious decision to evaluate an action then perform that action, barring the implication of severe mental illness.

If the guy had took the help the club offered with good intention maybe there's an avenue to work with, but there isn't, he continues to court the Spanish giants whilst putting pen to paper at Liverpool.

If you folk had a partner that was an awesome lay but disrespected you, played around, sought other partners and generally shat on you that would be a destructive relationship surely? And that relationship he has with our club reduces our standing in the game much like your mates would think your a pleb for putting up with a partner as described.

Liverpool should find their self respect again, finish the relationship and move on, no one player etc. Liverpool would be more respected and a new superstar will come. As torres was before, Owen, fowler, rush.

"If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading" - Buddha

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25 Jun 2014 03:09:02
Eds - In regard to Suarez 'incident' yesterday; do you believe, as I do, that he is still very attractive to Barca & Real and that his transfer value is only minimally affected.

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{Ed002's Note - No idea - would you welcome Joey Barton back?}

25 Jun 2014 01:53:46
Taking a look at Suarez as a player from a different angle. I don't wish to discuss the morals of his actions and the potential consequences here I merely want to speak about Suarez. I honestly love to watch the guy play football, he brings about an energy that is unrivalled and that very special and rare ability to produce moments of sheer genius. I often wonder how his brain processes that much information and sends out such quick and accurate commands. Accurate to the millimetre in some cases. And I just though tonight, watching it again, maybe that's why he is so good because the things he can do are literally second nature to him and he doesn't have to think in the same way most people do. Maybe this is why he lapses into these incidents maybe its just a natural ruthless instinct that he usually keeps control of but occasionally just does without thinking. Just a thought.
Jack!

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25 Jun 2014 01:34:00
Suarez plays with so much passion that it over spills sometimes. It's wrong what he did and should be given an international ban and that's it. He has'nt killed anyone or broken someones jaw with punch. The fire in his belly is what makes him so good. He plays like his life depends on his next move on the pitch, More than I can say for many other pro footballers who don't give a rubbish as long as they collect there pay cheque. let's not overeact lads!

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I don't understand this line of thought. Why would his 'passion' lead to him going up to an opponent and biting him from behind? Or grabbing an opponent's arm who has done nothing physically untoward and deciding to take a chunk out of it? I could see if those offended were in some way tussling with Suarez at the time, but they weren't doing anything wrong at all.

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RDL. It's down to frustration as I explained in the post below.

Not much to understand really.

We have seen several red cards for unprovoked acts of aggression during the World Cup already, usually it is by players who are frustrated by the result, their performance or the performance of team-mates (or a combination of either. ).

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25 Jun 2014 07:42:12
u might be able to say let's not overreact if it was a one off but its the third time now he is a world class player no doubt but as a person he is vile no person in there right mind would bite another.

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25 Jun 2014 08:15:08
Chris, u need your head checked for spatting such rubbish. Disgraceful.

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25 Jun 2014 09:25:31
You are all missing the point. When he wanted out of Ajax he bit someone. When he wanted to leave Liverpool for Arsenal he bit someone. Now he is wanting to leave and go to Spain - guess what he bit someone. This has nothing to do with passion for the game and all to do with the club allowing him to be released

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25 Jun 2014 00:33:25
Hello to all the EDS and fellow REDS

Suarez bites again. Ok, let's calm down. I, under no circumstance condone what Luis has done, it's wrong, period! But the English press/FA's reaction to this incident is not shared by the FIFA.
My prediction is: FIFA will issue a yellow card (a booking) to Suarez, because the referee will say that had he seen it in the game he would've brandished a yellow card, and that will be the end of that!
Mr Blatter will not want the controversy and publicity this would bring. It's been a great WC so far, Brazil have had help from referees so why not Uruguay? And to south Americans it's not such a big deal. Suarez himself has said 'things happen in the box'. they do. The 10 game ban the FA gave Luis was way over the top.
That is my 'prediction' and I could be wrong so please don't give me any jib if I'm wrong. If I could tell the future, I wouldn't be here, I'd be at the bookies and doing the lottery.
Either way, it's going to be interesting. One question I'd like to ask Luis is ' why bite, Luis? What's wrong with a kick or a punch or a shove? (no I'm not condoning that either!)

Enjoy the rest of the world cup
YNWA

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A yellow card for biting your opponent?

Sorry mate. If FIFA give him a yellow card that is an utter disgrace.
If biting an opponent is not classed as violent conduct (3 match ban) then I don't know what has happened to the game.

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A yellow card typical Liverpool fans! let's put this to bed if I get caught on camera in the street biting someone on 3 different occasions am going to prison! Right he been caught and we all know its a different rule in life when your famous but let's hope the people at the top who dish out the punishment grow some balls and ban him for the maximum punishment he can get which is 2yrs!

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25 Jun 2014 08:45:34
Let's hope that any punishment is restricted to international football only. I hope that mr Henry doesn't take action against him as it was nothing to do with LFC and to be honest we all know what Luis is like. I am not condoning Suarez but I am no longer interested in his craziness either. The way I am looking at it is Giorgio Chiellini is not hurt but if he was then I would want a serious punishment inflicted on LS as this is his hat trick of biting opponents.

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Ken Aguero what are you doing on this site mate, please move on to your club city site.

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A yellow card?! Seriously? Let's flip this round if someone bit a Liverpool player then I can guarantee you wouldn't be calling for a yellow, the fact of the matter is this is not the 1st time or 2nd but 3RD! Time he's done it. After the season he's had he changed a lot of people's opinions on himself and he's goes and does that. So many people have worked so hard for him to help his anger issues and once again he throws it back in his face. The Uruguay doctor stopped his cancer treatment to help him get fit in time for the World Cup and he goes and repays him by getting banned. I personally don't want anyone like that associated with my Liverpool F.C and I'm sure most people don't. Because I can assure you if he stays in the next two years he'll have another ban hanging over his head of some sort.

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I think there is an opportunity for Colgate to become a major sponsor.

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25 Jun 2014 09:49:22
If I remember correctly Defoe received a yellow card for biting an opponent in a PL match. Suarez should be banned from the rest of the world cup and no more. Song received a 3 game ban for an off the ball elbow hack down the back of Mandzukic. That was violent conduct but did not receive the condemnation that Suarez is receiving.

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25 Jun 2014 00:20:38
Outrage, blah blah.

Get a grip folks. Please show some perspective.

I've seen players break legs on purpose, at times ending careers.

I've seen players elbow people in the head, kick people in the head, head-butt people, stamp down with studs on limbs. take your pick.

I have seen many violent acts on an almost weekly basis, and some of these thugs that commit these acts are lauded as heroes. Similarly, I have seen players admit to beating up wives and girlfriends, involved in gbh hate-crimes and generally be involved in a multitude of despicable acts.

Haven't we all?

In the history of LFC, even King Kenny confessed to smashing some teeth in 'back in the day', whilst the likes of Souness and Whelan were thugs (good players too) who kept lists of names of who they would maim in their next games.

Outside Liverpool, thugs like Keane, Gazza, Joey Barton, Dirty Alan Shearer and Dennis Bergkamp, Danny Mills. take your pick, these people are lauded as heroes.

What Luis did is clearly wrong, but get some perspective you lot.

Chiellini, like Ivanovic before him, was left with barely a scratch, hardly on par with broken limbs and thuggery.

Luis needs help tbh.

His tendency to bite when unprovoked is concerning.

In the one case at LFC and now with Uruguay, was seemingly borne of his frustration at the result and at his failure (at the time of the incident) to help his side to victory.

The same as Chelsea, where Ivanovic had seemingly done nothing to provoke the bite.

(As for the Ajax case btw, Luis was provoked by a crafty opponent who stamped his studs on Suarez's foot. Ouch.)

Biting people without provocation is indeed strange behaviour.

I genuinely feel he may have had a troubled childhood, or suffered some other kind of mental trauma. His tendency to 'bite' suggests that some kind of psychological problem could likely be part of the reason why he lashes out in this way.

Above all, I hope Luis gets the help and support he needs to address this troubling aspect of his character. For such a seemingly nice guy who is so liked with team-mates, he has demons.

He clearly has some kind of psychological issues that need to be addressed. I hope that with help, he can learn to conduct himself in a better manner in future.

Luis will likely get a ban, as biting should obviously be frowned upon as poor behaviour and should be discouraged.

But before everyone joins the Mail, the S*n and the Mirror in crying hyperbolic apocalyptic outrage at what is in all truth a relatively harmless incident, everyone take a deep breath and gain some perspective.

Cheers.

ps: getting banned for his club as well as country would be a very strange move given the circumstances. Expect the bitter English media and non-LFC fans to beat the drum for it though. Thankfully, they're not FIFA. I don't expect a club ban.

If he bit the ref I'd expect a blanket ban! But thankfully that didn't happen.

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A human bite is potentially one of the worst injuries you can have.
There are more germs in the mouth than up Uranus.
If his shoulder gets infected, as most human bites do, it could be very serious.
That's ignoring the risk of HIV, Hepatitis B or C which are potentially life changing infections.

Make no mistake, your 'perspective' is massively skewed. This is a serious offence and his third episode.

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SuarezisaGenius, I couldn't agree more.

A liitle bit of context is needed here.

All those saying we need to sell him for thirty milion less than we would've this morning really need to have a word with themselves.

Sell him to who? North Korea, Mugabi?
No, it'll be to Madrid or Barcelona, who apparently don't mind having a flawed genius winning them champions league titles and banging in goals for fun.

Ask yourself this, if we were to offer him to Arsenal, Spurs, Everton, Utd or Chelsea, for a nominal fee, say £5M, how many would refuse on grounds of morals or principle?

Probably none of them, any one who thinks otherwise is deluded.

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Sell him to whoever, I don't really care.

At this point it is clear (if it wasn't already) that, at best, he's massively unpredictable. What if he decides to go off the handle again and bite Jose Fonte in the season opener? Easily a 20+ match ban (if not something even worse) and we're screwed the rest of the season with an asset (sort of) we can't properly utilize (again).

You simply can't predict what the nugget is going to do and it's incredibly dangerous for the club to bank on someone that certifiably crazy in such a key role moving forward. If it was his first time, all right then, a bit crazy and weird, but we'll deal with it. The 2nd time was even more bizarre, but we dealt with it, let bygones be bygones and all that and I'm sure he promised to behave himself. A third instance just borders on criminally insane, stupid, or both and none of those options represent someone it makes sense to make a key component of your team moving forward.

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I agree to an extent with you Suarezisagenius
What Luis did was wrong
But for me Luis desperately needs help more than let say just a ban
I don't know whether Uruguay have special psychologist for their team or not but dr.Peters clearly help calm Luis down last season
The best thing to do now for Luis is to take himself away from publicity and engage with consultation sessions

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25 Jun 2014 07:26:54
Well said RDL - sell our only world class player - great footballing decision. Are you for real?
I also think I know what the " nugget " will do, he'll score a lot of goals, play with total commitment and continue to give us our only chance of success again.

Perspective people - football is not a sport anymore, it's a business, and Luis Saurez is our only chance of being a successful business.

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I like all these psychological analysis people just do with no knowledge whatsoever. I would love for you to give me further insight in to how biting suggests child hood trauma. that aside I'm with Ken on this one but not as severely as he is. I think if he didn't get banned from Uruguay during his ban for Liverpool he shouldn't be banned from Liverpool while banned for Uruguay.

He should miss the rest of the world cup and I would say all the qualifiers for whatever tournament they play in next. not 5 games where friendlies count.

Finally last year I wanted him gone up until yesterday I obviously wanted him to stay. Now I think 50-60 mill and Sanchez and drive him to Spain. I don't think he will ever regain credibility in England now unfortunately.

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Yes. the perspective here is that it was only a small bite and suarez was a bit annoyed because a defender was doing his job and being a bit rough.

Are you people insane? The perspective here is that he has done this 3 times now. I would not defend my 3 year old if he bit someone once, never mind 3 separate occasions.

I think Fifa would be right to give him a lengthy ban and show him that kind of behaviour is unacceptable, he clearly didn't learn the last 2 times. The real losers in this is Liverpool as we will now have a player taking home 200k a week for sitting on the bench for a long time who we cannot sell anymore.

I hope that the Fifa ban is 10-15 games only and that we sell him immediately before he has no value anymore. We'll be lucky to get 40m for him, I know that even before this incident Madrid were not willing to pay more than the bale and Ronny fees because of his disciplinary history this will reduce his value further. IF we can sell him at all.

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Hi Guys,

Firstly, I must state that biting a fellow footballer is wrong, and should warrant some sort of penalty, whether that be a ban, fine or both is up to the Disciplinary Panel.

Having said that, I must totally agree with Alan, this should not affect his value as a footballer. I believe the fact that Barcelona would still want to sign him means that the price should not drop because of his behaviour.

If other teams are so outraged by his behaviour, walk away completely, and sign a player with a better temperament.

That's my 2 cents on the matter.

YNWA

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The World Cup is FIFA's marquee event! This is where they show their prowess and control over world football. Do you really think they will let this blow over? Do you think they will allow their main global attraction to be associated with premeditated "unsportsmanlike" conduct? I strongly doubt it. We're about to find out very soon.

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Not defending him but totally agree. A lot worse things go on. Simple as that. He obviously ain't going to change but I'd keep him defo.

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Presumably being unable to work because of your own actions he wouldn't be getting paid. I would assume anyway. Ed couldn't you clear this up?

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{Ed001's Note - how can we clear this up? It would be the decision of the club, and they won't even consider it until a punishment has been handed out.}

No I just meant in a regular work place if you can't work because of say house arrest for a month you don't get paid. I was just wondering did football work around a similar basis. basically did Suarez get paid during his other bans. obviously until the punishment is given we won't know anything but I was just trying to clear up a concern a poster above had. sorry if that was unclear

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{Ed001's Note - it is impossible to say, the workplace gets to decide whether to pay or not. Some will continue to pay, Arsenal paid Tony Adams his salary (withheld the bonuses he was due) while he was in jail. On the other hand Jan Molby was irate with Liverpool for withholding his pay while he was in jail on a similar offence. It was partially because of the way Molby reacted to his wages being withheld that saw other clubs continue to pay their players' wages when unable to work. The fuss he kicked up about it, despite it being completely his own fault and a fully deserved punishment (much as I love Jan Molby he was a complete idiot and fully deserved to lose money), caused a lot of discussion amongst football people at the time. Some believed the clubs didn't do enough to help their players deal with all the money at their disposal, and so have to accept part of the blame. Anyway, what I am trying to say is that the club have the choice in their hands.}

Let's leave Jan out of this ED xP

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25 Jun 2014 00:04:38
Man you're all getting your knickers in a twist! Sure: you don't want your players going around biting the opposition, but at the end of the day Suarez is a fantastic footballer who's been instrumental in putting us back up top. We'd be mad to let him go. Let's continue to rehabilitate him and quell the biting obsession by all means, but keep him in the fold for Good's sake.

Moral panic, moral panic!

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How many more 'rehabilitation' attempts do you think he should get? 1 more? 2? 30? There's a limit to how many times you can repeat the same previously punished and entirely avoidable infraction. Curious what you think that number is.

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If he did bite its terrible!
Not just for football but think people!

If we sell his value I am pretty sure just dropped due to the likelyhood of a long ban

If he stays he will have long ban more than likely

So either way he has potentially just made a huge mistake for himself, club.
It is just plain stupid and no point keep saying he needs help. He is not 18! And he gets paid enough to just NOT DO IT

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