Liverpool Banter Archive March 25 2015

 

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25 Mar 2015 21:50:00
What sort of an idiot gets sent off after 40 seconds. I've waited till now as I was so annoyed to post sooner.
Steven Gerrard is the greatest idiot on the planet, I'm sorry to all his lovers but how can you be that stupid.
This was a very aggressive player showing his lack of brains and then went looking for Sky Sports after the match to apologise for what? For being a thug and giving the very worst message to millions of kids who watch and/ or support Liverpool.

Not a legend anymore in my eyes, he could have ruined the guys career with that assault and now hundreds of thousands of kids watched their hero do that. Disgraceful, this game has given him so much and no one should act like that. Roy Keane is still vilified for his tacle on Alf Inge Haaland, our captain was just as nasty and I for one am disgusted. This is sport, if he did that on the street he would be arrested. What a terrible way to finish your career with our great club.

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25 Mar 2015 23:50:30
He'll put in a motm performance before the end of the season, then people will be saying "how can we let such a legend leave".

These things happen, but 1 act of stupidity does not deflect 16 years of absolute brilliance. He's in the dog house and he knows it, so move on.

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25 Mar 2015 23:52:03
think your going the top there and too call him u have no respect for one of our best ever players

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25 Mar 2015 23:58:55
Is this meant to be parody or something?

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25 Mar 2015 23:59:28
I think it is extreme to compare Gerrard's stupid stamp to Roy Keane setting out to end Haaland's career the next time they met. I agree with what you're saying to a degree, it was a massive let down to the remaining ten men who arguably dominated United during the second half, along with millions of LFC supporters all over the world. I'm confused as to why he did it, he wasn't even on the pitch long enough to be frustrated by any of their players to have done it with a hot head. I don't understand why he would stamp on another player after the whistle had blown, 100% on purpose. What a d*ck. I think it's unfair to suggest he is no longer an LFC legend because of this incident. I feel sad for him really, he had an awful end to last season, then a terrible World Cup, and a shocking start to this season and the realisation that age is catching up with him. I find it really shocking that fans of football can mock the fact that with all his quality he has never won the league. Now this has happened, his last year at the club has to be the worse of his career, and he only has himself to blame. He's probably not feeling too clever right now.

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26 Mar 2015 00:01:46
Stupid yes but Herrera could have broke stevies leg the frustration was with BR what a poor manager he is the sooner he goes the better

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26 Mar 2015 06:35:21
It was stupid and probably cost us any glimmer of hope that we had to win that game (and to be fair, if the 1st 45 minutes was anything to go by we were not going to get anything). It was brainless and, in what was probably one of the most pivotal games of the season, showed an incredible lack of control. I think it is really harsh to use that one incident, however, to write off/tarnish his entire career at the club. I know that he is a bellend off the pitch and, as a person, I don't think very highly of him but, as a player, he has been immense for us. Letting one incident overwrite that seems very unfair.

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26 Mar 2015 08:10:47
I think you needed to wait a little longer to calm down mate. Keane's 'tackle' (and the admitted intention) was one that happens once a generation if that, what Gerrard did happens 5-10 times a season. Was disgusting and the ban is fully deserved but potentially career ending (beyond any stud forward challenge) and no longer an LFC legend because of it? Come on

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26 Mar 2015 09:27:36
Behave. Stevie went a bit sunday league on the fella. I'm glad someone showed a bit of b-llocks as they were strolling around Anfield making us look like a bunch of girls.

Just a shame the linesman spotted it, LOL.

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26 Mar 2015 11:17:10
I don, t think it was the pressure of the game getting to him at all, everyone seems to be questioning if he was frustrated through not playing or what ever.
I believe he did it thinking he would get away with it, United were all over us up to that point and I think he came on with the frame of mind "they aren't having it all their own way".
So what do you do when your being bullied off the ball? Let them know that your not going to roll over and let them do it, he threw a hard challenge in against mata then stood on herrera. He's admitted going in with hard challenges before same thing here only the ref sussed him.

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26 Mar 2015 12:33:59
You better go watch Keanes career ending assault on poor Alf Inge Håland again mate, and if u still think gerrards stomp is just as bad, u should start watch water polo or something instead of fotball because you obviously has no clue.

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26 Mar 2015 16:39:01
McgoveB sorry but that was highly contradicting, a disgraceful stamp, yes and yes there would have been plenty of children watching so how can you bash him to have the guts to face the media to apologise and To take full responsibility is the best thing he could have done, I am not defending his stamp at all because theoretically that stamp could cost us top 4.the fact that you no longer consider a man who has carried this club for most of his career is more disgraceful than the stamp itself imo, you should go support Real Madrid you'd fight right in with their fans. People have tempers if you didn't put footballers on such a high pedestal you'd probably reason they're actually human themselves

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26 Mar 2015 17:11:44
SG was not the main reason we lost. had BR sorted out the tactics after 20 mins, maybe the red card doesn`t even happen. BR has to be proactive and not reactive when it comes to tactical situations

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26 Mar 2015 21:11:15
He was A reason we lost though.
He has to take his share of the blame.
And Skertl was stupid as well.
2 senior pro's now not available for 3 games due to their own stupidity.

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26 Mar 2015 21:42:55
I still stand by my opinion that gerrard should have been put out to pasture a couple of years ago. He's just not good enough any more.

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25 Mar 2015 19:12:38
Can anyone tell me if the charity match on Sunday is on TV thanks in advance . PS love this site

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25 Mar 2015 19:24:18
It's on LFC TV

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25 Mar 2015 19:33:18
Lfc tv, you can stream online too

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25 Mar 2015 22:12:49
Looks to be airing on BeIN here in the US, at least according to my provider's programming guide.

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26 Mar 2015 00:01:42
History channel (joking guys)

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25 Mar 2015 17:57:12
I seen an earlier post about the worst players ever to don our shirt. It got me thinking who would be the most injury prone eleven players we have ever had?

I'm going by length of time they have been out injured. Here's my go at it.

Keeper. S. Carson. ( this position was toughest and I'm not sure he is but I think he had a fair few).

Left back. J. Enrique. For last two seasons I've hardly Seen him play.

Centre half. J. Scales. Good player but a lot of injuries.

Centre half. D. Agger. Love the guy but had a lot of injuries.

Right back. J. Flannaghan. I didn't want to use Flannaghan as it was a bad injury

Left wing. H. Kewell. Had to be

Centre mid. A. Aqualani. Again easy one.
Centre mid. Lucas.

Right wing. J. Cole. Another easy one.

Striker. D. Sturridge. Again love the guy but injury prone.

Striker. F. Torres. Struggled on this one.

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25 Mar 2015 19:04:39
Kirkland
Aurelio
Agger
Scales
Heggem
Kewell
Smicer
Redknapp
David Thompson
Owen
Fowler

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25 Mar 2015 19:08:02
Lucas is an odd one, first half of his career he was constantly injury free, able to post up 50 games in all competitions. Then it was the big injury against Chelsea in the cup and was the start of his injury problems.

Martin Kelly had a horrendous injury record for us love the guy and glad he seems to have gotten over them.

M. Owen
Fabio Aurelio
Joe Cole was injured often

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25 Mar 2015 19:36:55
Kirkland
enrique
scales
agger
jones
kewell
redknapp
aquilani
marcus babbel
owen
sturridge

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26 Mar 2015 00:05:50
GK: Kirkland
RB: Degen
CB: Agger
CB: Kelly
LB: Aurelio
CM: Aquilani
CM: Redknapp
RM: Cole
LM: Kewell
CF: Owen
CF: Mellor

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26 Mar 2015 06:41:30
Kirkland (probably stunted his career trajectory)
Aurelio (boss left back but honestly remember him being injured more that playing)
Agger (a favourite centre back of mine, which is why his injuries stick in the mind - we always missed him when he wasnt playing, which was a lot)
Kelly (nearly 2 seasons out speaks for itself)
Babbel (and probably one of the strangest 'injuries' I have seen afflict a Liverpool player)
Redknapp (remember him barely playing for us)
Aquilani (the only thing I can remember is that he was not in the team)
Kewell (constant niggles and a definite feeling that he wasn't really too bothered about his fitness)
Joe Cole (story of his career really)
Fowler (left him a shadow of the player he was)
Cisse (seemed to break his leg twice a season)

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26 Mar 2015 08:12:05
Was it Kirkland or Carson who slipped in the shower and put themselves out for 2 months?

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25 Mar 2015 16:40:12
I know I have made it clear that I would accept a ridiculous offer like 40m for Sterling immediately, that doesn't mean I want him to go. That money would just be incredibly useful to us for a player that we already have about 20 replacements for in the academy and squad already. However, It is sad to see all the bad things being said of him on here, he is off form right now but everyone has these patches especially in youth.

But anyway I want to speak about Rodgers right now. My opinion just keeps getting swayed, every time I allow myself to warm to him again, he demonstrates why he is so easy to be annoyed at. The Eds are constantly giving excellent reasons why he should be sacked and of course, If we don't finish top 4 he should be sacked because you simply cannot finish second and then spend 100m and finish with Europa League that is 100% unacceptable. But if he manages to get us to the top 4 again this season, in my opinion we should give him more time to prove that he can be better and that he is the man to take us forward. Because to be honest I don't think there are many managers out there who could have lost Suarez and then the other key striker early on in the season and still manage to reach top four. Personally I think it very unlikely that we shall finish top 4 but I never stop believing until it is mathematically impossible.

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25 Mar 2015 23:21:39
A lot of those signings were made during the Rafa era, just so we`re clear.

As for BR, his record is all there for us to see and the owners will make a decision based on that and that alone. The owners did not give BR 250m to play good footie. They did that because they want trophies and success and if BR clearly cannot give them that then why should they keep him?

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26 Mar 2015 04:33:05
40 million is hardly a big offer football today. 60 million and take sterling any day. and i would want that money to go new stadium upgrade, rather than any replacement

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26 Mar 2015 06:51:10
The problem for me is, if we were to accept a hypothetical 40mil bid, who do we buy to replace him? Champions League is looking unlikely which means top players will be far harder to entice and will need even more money thrown at them or, more probable, will simply not be interested. Sterling is young with the scope for huge development, he fits into our team and our style (when played in a more advanced position) very well. He is inconsistent but that will only improve - I worry that we will sell him, watch his value and quality skyrocket, and be left with either funds that are badly spent or players unable to fill the gap. The one plus is, I suppose, Jordan Ibe. He could quite adequately fill the hole Sterling leaves softening the blow - the question still remains though about how the money is spent - I simply have no faith in our club to bring the right sort of player into the team anymore. Look at our summer signings - how many have been what you would call a "success"?

- Markovic has potential and I think grow into his role as he adjusts to England, on and off the pitch.
- Balotelli and Lambert have done little to nothing.
- Lovren has, to my suprise and dismay, bombed though that form may change under another manager (?)
- Moreno has perplexed me and, though I concede that the more he plays in the left wing back role the better adjusted he will become, I still think there are huge issues over his concentration, which seems to be non-existent and cost us dearly at times.
- Manquillo was completely unnecessary and has done little
- Lallana is probably the only player to have had a consistent impact this season though the sheer number of times he has been substituted has been unhelpful to him, he is a player who we will be happy we signed (imo)
- Emre Can, if played in midfield, will show just how capable he is. Playing him at the back just underlines how unsure Rodgers is off his defence and really does diminish a lot of Can's qualities.

With that sort of transfer record would you trust Rodgers/transfer committee with 40million quid? I'd rather keep Sterling, its a safer option!

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25 Mar 2015 09:15:14
Edd001can I get your opinion mate on the summer. I said when we were winning matches Rodgers wasn't the man and the performances have been dreadful. We have been embarrassing in the matches we have won defensively and fans were harping on about skittles who was always going to be found out.
There's a problem though. This season is a right off but if Rodgers does go and for e.G de boer was brought in that's more rebuilding and changing and the other top teams will be improving again whilst offering CL.
Personally if we were to get a large sum for sterling I would take it because we have a young great prospect in Ibe. Sterling has been poor all season regardless of were he has played and if he has a decent season next year his agents will be back after another bumper pay rise.
I would trim the squad of big wages earners who aren't good enough, have a look at our young talent before buying with the exceptions being GK, CM and a striker.
Edd, would you keep sterling if we were offered a large sum?

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{Ed001's Note - we don't need a rebuild if we change head coach, they have to deal with what is here.

No way would I sell Sterling, he is not the best young player in the world, but he is a very talented young player who should get better with age. If we want to progress as a club we need to keep hold of him. If you sell him, what message does it send out to players like Ibe for the future?}

25 Mar 2015 15:23:11
Edd001, he is pampered at the club. The hype around him, the holiday while the team plugged away and this contract situation. He has had a poor season and whether it's his agent or himself looking for the wages, would it not send out a worse message rewarding him for nothing this season?
Imo more players at the club will be holding the club to demands if they see a 20 year old being paid huge wages.

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{Ed001's Note - who is at fault for the hype? Who chose to send him on holiday? Who is not managing to get the team to play in a way that suits him? So why punish Sterling for Rodgers' numerous errors? You don't sell your better players if they are not wanting to go, he doesn't want out, yet, though the way the fans are turning on him thanks to Rodgers' big mouth, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up wanting to leave to escape it all!

The lad has knuckled down and worked hard to get a chance, he took the chance and now is having a dip in form. He is young and needs help to work through it. His attitude has been excellent, willingly playing in numerous positions without grumbling, unlike Gerrard who refused to play on the right. He is not, contrary to the crap being spouted, holding the club to ransom over the new deal, unlike Gerrard, who forced the club to make him the highest paid player in its history or he would have signed for Chelsea. So why is everyone on his case? Just give the lad time, he is young and he will improve.}

25 Mar 2015 16:39:53
it sends the message that you are not above the club and we will happily send you on your way for a sum we want, if you think you can extort the club.

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{Ed001's Note - or that we are not going to pay the going rate so go elsewhere as we are not winning anything either?}

25 Mar 2015 16:42:00
Ha ha, now some even want to blame Sterling for going on holiday when it is Rodgers who allowed him to go?

Typical cyclops vision. Just like some wanting to blame Gerrard for the loss vs UTD. Does nobody believe Gerrard would have been pumped up for his last appearance in a LFC shirt vs the Mancs? Who sent him onto the pitch? Mickey Mouse?

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25 Mar 2015 18:00:57
Edd001 cheers for the replys

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25 Mar 2015 18:09:58
Ed001 was it Rogers fault sterling was "to tired" for England

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{Ed001's Note - who cares? I don't give a rat's backside about England.}

25 Mar 2015 18:58:48
A lot of Gerrard bashing there

One thing ill say is Gerrard refused to play on the right when he made it not a 20 year old kid

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{Ed001's Note - it is not Gerrard bashing, I am merely pointing out that he has done a lot worse and is a legend at the club, so people should cut Sterling some slack. By the way, it doesn't matter what age he was, the fact that he did it at all is disgusting.}

25 Mar 2015 23:26:21
ED speaks the truth here re Sterling and SG and anyone who doubts that should either prove him wrong or stop bitching and blaming Sterling for no reason. BR has shown poor management with RS and often does this to absorb himself of blame or divert attention from his own failings. Now that RS is struggling, fans are now using it as a cop out to bash him for not following our orders and signing a contract. RS is till learning and this is the best place for him to grow and even he knows that so let the process run its course and see what happens.

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25 Mar 2015 20:20:12
Didn't Gerrard have one of his most successful seasons on the right anyway?

As for Sterling, he deserves good wages, but regardless of his willingness to stay, someone is holding the club to ransom.

We are not, and will never be a City, Chelsea, Madrid etc under these owners.

Not a criticism of the owners, but let's be honest, if true, it's still a generous offer.

Personally, I think someone (whoever it is) is taking the pabiss out of our club.

The impression I get is that reds are getting sick of this.

First Torres, then Suarez and now a KID who's a good player.

There was a disappointment when Mcmanaman did it as the fans saw his as one of their own, brought up through the club and nurtured, a little bit like Sterling.

I just think people feel a little bit let down by the situation as it's obviously affected his performances, as it would do many players.

Sort it out, get your head down and sign lad. If he carries on performing anyway it's only a matter of time before a RICH club come in and offer him his lucrative demands. Bound to happen.

He will never be as good a player if he does leave though.

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25 Mar 2015 21:51:03
Ed it could also send a positive message to Jordon IBe.

"We think you have more potential than Raheem and want you to be a big part of the future of our club.

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25 Mar 2015 21:42:13
True true good points ed001

But if a player moves to a new club and looks for assurances to play a certain positions would a player at the club not be able to do the same (Gerrard aside just want a opinion)

Or is there a way of handling such things especially when players are in demand ???

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{Ed001's Note - would a player moving to a club he supports do so? It depends on the player anyway, most just want assurances they will get chances to play regularly.}

25 Mar 2015 22:00:29
Ed001, your firing a lot off accusations around regarding Gerrard, based on half truths and hearsay.

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{Ed001's Note - don't talk nonsense, not one bit is half truth and defo not hearsay. The only one making accusations is you because you don't have a clue where I got this from.}

25 Mar 2015 22:54:40
Ed01, with all due respect mate (as I tend to agree with most of your comments) I do think you are quick to slag Gerrard, I don't think you can compare undoubtedly one of the best players in our history asking to be highest paid player and Sterling doing the same, as he isn't and almost certainly will never grow into that category. Whatever you or I for that matter think about Gerrard the person you can't take away what he has been to the club.
Also your reply to Big Al States few few things about Sterling that I know for a fact that are wrong, I am not going to go into detail(because I cant) but believe me he isn't as white as you paint him.
Maybe you will tell me to put up or shut up about Sterling but posters could say the same to you Eds with some of the comments you guys make and ask for "proof".
For the record I don't want us to sell a sterling, I think he has a lot more in his locker than we have already seen and when he/his body matures he could be frightening. His technical ability does need to improve though.

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{Ed001's Note - I am not slagging Gerrard, I am pointing out that just because a player is not ideal off the pitch, doesn't mean they can't go on to have a great, long career on it for us. Gerrard is the best example of that. I never said Sterling was a good boy, just that he is no worse than Gerrard and we accepted him as he was. Ok, as I said, Raheem is almost certainly never going to get to Gerrard's level, but there is no need for this slagging off session he has become subject to.}

26 Mar 2015 17:12:50
Preach, Ed!

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25 Mar 2015 11:18:01
And oh look that 20 year old with 7 goals and 5 assists this season (our highest scorer from open play) has been playing with a toe injury in recent weeks.

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25 Mar 2015 12:16:21
Doesn't mean anything! Players do it all over the world. becides he was crap before that haha I remember Suarez playing injured last year, think he got couple goals aswell. Are you Raheems mum? Shall we give him a little trip away again till its better?

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25 Mar 2015 12:17:09
Too injury prone and he should be top scorer period, not just from open play, at his age.

Not going to develop anymore and comes across as a troublemaker when most Tweens are so grown up and mature at his age.

Lets get rid.

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{Ed001's Note - at 20 years old? Not going to develop any more? I really hope that is a joke. He is miles away from his peak years.}

25 Mar 2015 14:41:10
I'm very much hoping that Zeddicus was being sarcastic

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{Ed001's Note - so am I, but I can't remember what he has been saying normally so I am unsure!}

25 Mar 2015 14:47:13
Not sure what everyone is getting on Sterlings back about, he's got a couple of years until his contract runs out, so in no rush from either side, and besides he's no doubt taking his cues from his agent. Most here don't know the real issues, so while it could be money or greed, it may not.

In terms of potential, he's been one of the better performers in the side despite being played in multiple positions, I think we should cut the man some slack as he may well end up being a critical player for us in a couple of years time.

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25 Mar 2015 15:11:26
Yep, apologies for worrying anyone, but that was indeed sarcastic!

I do think the way BR likes to hang out all the dirty washing in public is the exact antithesis of the Liverpool Way (does anyone remember that?!?), and he has led to this pressure on a 20yo.

We should be looking to our lack of options for Sterling and the fact that we have piled so much pressure on the lad, rather than bemoaning the fact that a 20yo isn't scoring as much as Ronaldo.

Also, the extra crap in the press due to BR's motor-mouth doesn't help encourage the lad to sign a new contract and move on.

It makes me laugh that a number of posters who bemoan the lack of quality depth in our squad are also on Sterling's based on rumours and innuendo in the press.

Give the lad a break, he's only 20 ffs!!

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25 Mar 2015 23:27:05
Stop with the RS bashing because it is getting weak, pathetic and freaking annoying.

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26 Mar 2015 21:48:33
Hear hear red ohio

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25 Mar 2015 10:54:14
A little bit of hostility the other day when I suggested Brendan "has failed badly"
This is why in simple terms why I think this:
He is badly underachieving with the players he has at his disposal, a manager can be deemed a success if he is getting his players and team to play to their ability, a manager can be deemed a massive success if he manages to get them playing beyond their abilities.
He promised the league and a champions league run, he's failed miserably in both.
He's taken the team backwards and out of the champions league spots despite having the funds in the summer to at least maintain the team at the near top, losing Suarez is nothing more than an excuse, failing to replace him after having literally years to plan for life after him is criminal.
His transfer dealings have been far below acceptable and wasteful.
I like some of the football we played under Brendan and we have had some good times but the head says we need to replace him and the transfer commitee tho summer.

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25 Mar 2015 11:32:59
Brilliant post Mikey. Lots of truth and facts in your post unlike all the rubbish stats and fantasies being bandied around by Brendan's fan boys. Its time for the club to take the next step forward by bringing in a manager or head coach who can meet the club's ambitions.

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25 Mar 2015 12:24:47
Give Sterling a good contract i don't understand why people are saying he is gready?
Most off us work for a wage, 99% off us would leave our jobs if we could double our salary.
he will get the money somewhere else if we don't pay.
Age got NOTHING to do with it?he is ours, he is young and playing well.and will only get better.
We need to keep what is good, what do we want sell sterling?we might sell him and buy another Borini for 10 mil + wages.
Keeping sterling is cheaper.
Our competitors will make an offer and pay him close too what he wants.
Same goes for coutinho/henderson/ibe let's keep and build.
Malta

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25 Mar 2015 12:43:28
Problem is5th place is about right in league can you honestly say our squad / first 11 is better that those above us???

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}

25 Mar 2015 12:48:18
I agree. I think with the squad we have we should be pushing for the title at this point. When you spend what we have spent 5th place just isn't good enough, especially given one of the worst United sides I have ever seen will likely pip us for 4th. I would like him to stay if he agrees to work under a DOF and with specialist coaches, similar to what fergie had at united. If he won't agree then we need to find somebody who will. Either way the owners have a huge decision to make this off season.

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25 Mar 2015 16:14:24
Indian Buzzer, new manager and ambitions will not change much, Br talks a bit too much but we have played some great football lately.
We don't know how much power the transfer commitee has?
Fsg have all the time in the world bringing in a top manager is not what they want.
Top managers will ask more money than brendan has spend, and look at the net spend last summer.
FSG know that liverpool is the best buy they will ever make.
Man u is worth 2 billion, after the ground is done and they attracted more sponsers we be worth much more than they paid.
Here in Malta we have 2 groups of football fans, italian mostly juve and milan and some roma/inter supporters.
English 40% manu 40% us and some tottenham/arsenal.
We are so big in the world and FSG know it, and they know how to get the club in order worldwide.
Fsg have time, get more revenue first and spend after, once the ground is ready and revenue is up they will own a billion pound club.
We have millions of supporters worldwide that will never leave, no matter what.
Malta

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25 Mar 2015 17:05:29
supermario, ill say yes to that

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25 Mar 2015 20:41:10
Indian Buzzer, wind your neck in lad.

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25 Mar 2015 21:33:59
Good post Mickey.
I don't agree but I understand where your coming from.
All I would say is that if you go into work and say you are going to perform worse than what you did last week then your boss won't be happy.
Where do you go from 2nd?
He had to say he'd win the league or challenge for it otherwise it would be called regression or stagnation.
The money spent is a bone of contention.
There can be no argument that we spent 100 million.
We also sold Suarez.
And Suarez's do not grow on trees.
I honestly think that we should have just bought 4 Brazilian attacking midfielders with the 100 million.
Bound to be brilliant them Brazilians.

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25 Mar 2015 23:29:14
We are a much better team than we have shown overall this year and this shows why we have been able to claw our way back from 12th to 5th. Had BR just did what we all know should have been done, we would be in a much better position.

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25 Mar 2015 21:32:52
Ed001. Which teams would you say have a worse team/ squad out of the current top 4 then compared to Liverpool?
I think Liverpool are about where they should be for the squad on paper.

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{Ed001's Note - Man Utd, Arsenal both have a worse squad. United are still rebuilding, Arsenal are unbalanced. If the team had not started off so badly, you woulld expect Liverpool to be ahead of both. On paper.}

26 Mar 2015 08:48:38
Jonny I don't think my boss would believe me if I said I am going to perform worse, he would say I'm not sure that's actually possible mikey haha

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26 Mar 2015 12:27:01
Brilliant Mickey.
Like it.

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26 Mar 2015 17:13:34
Ouch!

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25 Mar 2015 08:52:16
I keep getting hairy chest adverts on screen ed.
What is going on.
I'll leave you with that one.

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{Ed001's Note - must be next step for Brendan following teeth, tan and tummy tuck.....}

25 Mar 2015 10:38:33
I keep getting that skalp advert. Where if your bald you can have stubble tattooed on haha

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25 Mar 2015 19:40:27
Funny replies from both of you there. I thought it was a fetish site.
Which probably says more about me than anything else.

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25 Mar 2015 07:20:16
On a lighter note, posted the opposite and got some great responses so.who is the worst player you've ever seen don a red jersey in person?

For me would be jovanavic under Hodgson. A player so inspirationly inept made me believe if I did some training or at least thought about it and didn't put on too much weight could be playing alongside stevie g next january.

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25 Mar 2015 07:56:34
Konchesky. Same ability level as Jovanovic but didn't even try and then got his mum to have a go at people who pointed that out.

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25 Mar 2015 08:32:32
Paul Stewart and David Speedie.

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25 Mar 2015 08:49:45
Surely Nabil El Zhar or Damien Plessis?

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25 Mar 2015 08:50:11
Aquilani?
Worst because he cost so much and delivered so little despite the fact he obviously had talent.

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25 Mar 2015 09:29:31
Istvan Kozma, Bjorn Kvarme, Konchesky and Poulson.

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25 Mar 2015 09:49:19
Yeah but Aquilani had ability, don't mean which player was the worse buy (as in money spent) but players that you can't figure out how they got onto the pitch.

For example, Carroll was one of our worst buys but can see to an extant why he was bought, but some players you see and just think how? Sorry if it seems harsh but just remember watching Jovanavic and wondering what scout made this decision?

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25 Mar 2015 10:00:56
Anyone signed under Hodgeson or Souness

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25 Mar 2015 10:09:57
Joe Cole, Degan, Aquilani very hard to pick only one, we've had so many warming our bench on big wages.

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25 Mar 2015 10:17:29
Degen.

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25 Mar 2015 10:27:05
Cheyrou was something special, I remember him wiping the mud off his gold boots in the middle of a match and from then I I lost time for him. El Hadji Diouf has to be THE worst in my opinion plus I generally just don’t like the guy after he called me a an savoury word at a night club in Sheffield

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25 Mar 2015 10:43:37
Sorry Roland inho, how about kromkamp or josemi.
Or how about that winger Real Madrid gave us as part of the Owen transfer? What's his name?

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25 Mar 2015 10:44:40
Degen has to be up there.

I still remember that game at Pompey away and Rafa had Carra right back and Degen right mid. We lost 2-0. That was a dark day for LFC, lol.

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25 Mar 2015 10:48:42
Sean Dundee

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25 Mar 2015 11:10:04
Sean Dundee, Kvarme, Diouf, Le Tallec, Degen, Pennant, Kewell, Jovanovic, Kromkamp

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25 Mar 2015 12:07:49
sahin?!?!??!

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{Ed001's Note - has to be Paul Stewart, couldn't control the ball, couldn't pass the ball, couldn't head the ball, in fact he couldn't do anything with the ball. Worst of it was that he was even worse without it!}

25 Mar 2015 13:12:26
It shows how bad Diouf was that I actually block from my mind that we have him. I'm changing my answer

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25 Mar 2015 13:27:45
Keane

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25 Mar 2015 13:53:40
Kozma was class lol!

Dundee, Diao, Kromkamp and Kvarme all just awful

Kewell, Clough, Balotelli and Stewart were all huge let downs after some huge hype and anticipation. Not sure which is worse? Awful players from the start or players meant to be great but we're awful?

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25 Mar 2015 16:16:40
No mentions of Pennant suprises me.

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{Ed001's Note - I think everyone is trying to forget him! Though he did have the odd decent appearance, while some of the dross like Stewart (ugh even saying his name makes me feel sick) never managed one good appearance.}

25 Mar 2015 15:50:28
I liked Kromkamp! He was just a bit slow to get back down field when needed

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25 Mar 2015 16:35:23
Pellegrino way to old to get to grips with the prem when he came

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25 Mar 2015 16:56:29
Don't forget Torben Piechnik (spelling) truly awful. Agree Stewart was woeful too.


To change it can anyone give a full team (yeah depressing I know) but heres mine.

GK. Arphexhad.
LB. Konchesky
CH. Peichnik.
CH. Kvarme.
RB. Josemi (but I'm sure there is a worse one just can't think of one)
LM. Kozma.
CM. Diao.
CM. Stewart.
RM. Nunez.
ST. Voronin.
ST. Diouf.

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25 Mar 2015 21:54:00
I only mentioned Stewart because you have a distinct dislike for him ed001.
Great perm though.
Really tight permed head like a judge's wig.
If I had to really decide on my worst ever Liverpool player it would have to be Eric Meijer. Tried hard but what a shabbite player.
Funny people mentioning Arphexhad. Isn't he like the new Ron Jeremy now??
I heard the other day that his porn name is the "Stopper".
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Funny that la.

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25 Mar 2015 23:14:30
Jonnybarnes89-90, agree Paul Stewart, he would have to be my choice, complete waste of money, was it £2.2 mill we, sorry Souness paid for him when £2.2mill was a big big fee, he was sh*te, could never see what Souness saw in him at all, in fact it's bringing it all back again! and I'm fuming at Souness all over again. David Speedie, do you know what he was quite effective at times, can't remember his stats at all but sure I recall a few goals and he did have a bit of fire in his belly and put 100% in.
Few honourable mentions, josemi, degen, Dundee and might surprise a few people Kevin McDonald, sh*te!

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25 Mar 2015 23:24:32
Mr Dennis, the funny thing about Kozma was I saw him do one of the best pieces of skill I had ever seen or seen since, can't remember who it was against but it was right on the by line at the Kop end and it was unbelievable, maybe he never meant it!

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25 Mar 2015 23:30:12
And we wonder why we have been so far behind in the past over two decades.

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26 Mar 2015 06:43:48
Nunez looked liked he was signed from a fruit and veg stall.

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26 Mar 2015 08:46:07
My worst 11 ever is
Itandje
konchesky
Piechnic
Kvarme
Degen
Stewart
Aquilani
Kozma
Jovanovic
Cole
Aspas

Subs
That Italian keeper (can't remember his name)
Dicks
Babb
Johnson
Keane
Allen
Poulson

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25 Mar 2015 06:43:26
Anyone know the extent of injurys to migs, Sturbridge, lallana and loveran also sterling no return date on physio room?

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25 Mar 2015 05:00:01
Hello Eds and reds.
Just thought I would post Brendan Rodgers stats for every game he has managed up until now.
This includes the last game.

164 games
91 wins
33 draws
40 defeats
Goals scored 313
Goals conceded 185
Win Percentage 55.49%

We all have an opinion about the manager, some negative and some positive.
What is the absolute truth is that record.
There is no conjecture in that record.
No opinions just facts.

Now they include every game so that also means Friendlies as well but not too many to distort the statistics.
For me that is an impressive record and that is the basis for my continuing support of this manager.
I know that he has won nothing and that is the only statistic that matters but my point is that he is only going to improve as a manager as time goes on ( again my opinion).

It could go the other way but you would like to think given his age and experience that he will improve.
If that is the case and he improves that ratio to around 60% then we are in Fergie territory in terms of win percentage.

So my question is. Why get rid of a manager with a record like that?

Just to compare and I could only find Mourinho's stats up until March 2014 for Chelsea he has a win percentage of 67% which may have gone up or down a little bit.
That Mourinho record is staggering.
It really is although he still has many years to catch up to Fergie in terms of volume of games.
Ferguson ended with a percentage of 59% but you have to take into account the sheer amount of games he was in charge of.

But my point is that Rodgers can't be as bad as some people make out that he is.
I always considered a manager who is above 50% to be doing well.
Rodgers is above that as things stand right now.
He has loads of things still to learn as well, a blind man can see that but I feel that he is learning as he goes along which in my opinion makes that win percentage even more impressive.

He has not won a thing I understand that and will concede that point but is he really worth sacking?
I don't think so.
Welcome any thoughts.
Ed002 sorry for mentioning Chelsea and Mourinho again, I will go and say 10 hail Mary's now.

Just to add a little caveat to those stats.
In his first six seasons Alex Ferguson's win percentage was 43%.

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{Ed001's Note - this is ridiculous. Stats are just nonsense. I could rip them to shreds, but if you are even wasting your time basing support for a manager clearly out of his depth on his record in lower league football and friendlies, then there is no point. Tim Sherwood had the best stats in Spurs' history as their manager, but he is a clueless tit who just messes about in training without actually doing any coaching.

I am disappointed that you would even bring this up. Why not break it down. Stats for the Champions League? Woeful. Stats for the Europa League? Embarrassing. Remove the friendlies altogether, as they are meaningless. Even then, they are just stats and you can twist them to show anything you want. It is about time you started analysing them, rather than just interpreting them.}

25 Mar 2015 07:27:14
How can you twist his actual record as manager?
That is a strange comment.
That is how many games he has won lost and drawn since he has been here. simple really.
I honestly could not be arsed to remove his friendlies ed.
Just thought after you ripped him apart yesterday that I would clarify why I still support him.
And that record so far is not bad in my book.
Tim Sherwood was manager at Spurs for 10 minutes so of course his stats are warped.
I am not bashing and have never bashed anyone for having a different view to me, I prefer to chat about it as you well know.
His record in Europe is poor but they are included in the stats so it's not like I left them out to support my argument.
They are part of the 165 games total.
I have re-read the post and can't find anywhere where I have bashed any other fan. you need to take that back fella.
I value your opinion Ed but I don't always agree with it.
This is just one such occasion.

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{Ed001's Note - so it is just his record at Liverpool? You never even specified that. But you have to analysis it, of course they can be twisted. I mean there are so many contributing factors to be taken into it. How good the team he is managing is compared to the opponents. How much money he has spent. When the games were played, as in how the opposition's mental state was etc, not the time of day, though even that can be a factor. Basically you have taken 3 years, with friendlies, which could be completely skewing the result, and not looked at anything else. May as well all admit Pep Guardiola is the greatest manager that has ever been and Bill Shankly was not very good if you are basing it purely on win ratio.....

I have re-read my reply and I have no idea where you got it from that I said you were bashing fans???? I think you need to get new glasses mate!}

25 Mar 2015 07:59:07
I do wear glasses and have just re-read it.
You said basing instead of bashing.
ha ha ha
I am pissing my self here now.
It's early Ed. Give me a break.
The funny thing is because I mis-read that comment I am now in a shit mood, so I fired off a couple of posts further down the page just basically calling ya for everything. ha ha.
Specsavers jonnybarnes89-90 is my new name from now on.
My apologies.
Ed from memory, we don't win that many friendlies under Rodgers so I don't think they skew the result too much.
And yes it was just Liverpool, I am not arsed about what he did before he was here.
Or indeed after he leaves.
I am not basing my opinion on just that ed, I just don't think he is as bad as being made out by some.
You don't win 55% of games over 165 by being crap.
That is all I am saying.
Still laughing though!!!

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{Ed001's Note - oooohhhh basing! Now I see it.

As for that, it still skews it, even if it is against him, it still alters the result, which makes the stats false.

You do win over 55% if your team is better than 75% of the opposition if you are a crap manager though....}

25 Mar 2015 08:13:27
At least I have shown you why I still support the man.

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{Ed001's Note - I just don't see that as a good enough reason. Especially when the team is clearly better than they are playing. For me a great manager gets players performing above expectations regularly, Rodgers does it for a couple of games and then we struggle for months. It has become a routine under him.}

25 Mar 2015 08:57:16
Jonnybarnes, send an email to the owners with the above meaningless stats begging them to give clueless Brendan another chance when they sack him in the summer. The man is out of his depth, end of story. Why do people want such an ordinary man in charge of LFC? Its as if u have accepted LFC to be perennial losers, which Brendan is btw. Such fans have no expectations and ambitions for the club they love, and it shows in the club's performances in the last 25 years (bar a few miracles of course).

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25 Mar 2015 10:07:33
Worth remembering our club motto is You'll Never Walk Alone. I'll be getting behind the players and Brendan for the remaining games and see where we end up, top 4 is still very doable. Every proper Liverpool fan should be doing the same, not carping and wining at every poor result.

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25 Mar 2015 12:52:10
Stats are meaningless, say, after a game where one team dominated possession but failed to score and conceded 3. Then the domination of possession becomes meaningless. When it comes to meaningful stats there are only two: goals scored, and win percentage.(obviously more but these are the ones people really care about.) Sorry Ed001 but 3 seasons is a large data spread and BR's win percentage should not be dismissed as irrelevant. Whether you think that 55% is good or bad however, that's up to you.

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{Ed001's Note - win percentage? There is only one win percentage that matters - number of trophies won in those 3 years 0%. Winning games is irrelevant if you don't win the ones that matter.}

25 Mar 2015 13:45:53
we just don't get on ed.
Maybe it's me. as I can't stand Ed002 either:)
Maybe I need to look within.

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25 Mar 2015 18:04:29
Stats can be skewed to suit the viewpoint of the person using them. For instance Wenger has played nearly 9 times as many games as Brendan (1056) and has a win % of 57.56 or something. Some could argue that this makes him a better manager because he has maintained it over a longer period. But many gooners would point to a trophy cabinet that is not as full as they would like despite the impressive stats. Point is at least they have won some. I would argue that the win percentage is irrelevant but rather the trophy's you accumulate that tells the picture. Had he the tactical nous to beat mancrapster united on Sunday I may have given him more latitude but his overall performance as a manager fails to impress me. Am I fickle? Maybe

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25 Mar 2015 20:52:46
Indian Buzzer.
You obviously did not read my post properly.
If you actually read it then you will know that I posted it to spark some debate about the manager.
I just put it out there so that people know where I am coming from.
If you want to chat about the manager and whether he is good or not then don't use things like "He is out of his depth end of story"
How does that help the debate?
As for writing a begging letter????
What the actual.
I should write a letter to the people who employed him in the first place???
See you obviously just want to play the scapegoat game.
Pin the tail on the manager.
FSG signed him as manager and they signed him saying it was a long term appointment. Was that all BS then about the long term appointment?
How can your record as manager be meaningless?
You have made it clear you don't like him, fair enough, more power to you for that.
That is your opinion and I have mine.
But the object of a manager is to win games, the more games you win the more likely you are to win trophies.
55% is a good win percentage for a manager over a 3 year period in my opinion and it certainly does not suggest anyone who is "out of his depth" does it.
Hodgson WAS "OUT OF HIS DEPTH" with a win percentage of 33%
These are not stats that can be skewed they are simply his record as manager of Liverpool Football club.
I have put them on here to show that all those who claim he is crap are talking nonsense.
You may still want him sacked and I can accept that but that record completely destroys your argument that he is useless, inept or out of his depth.
Manager's who are useless do not win 55% of games over a 3 year period.
Not in the premier league.
That again is my opinion.
If you don't believe me then look at all the managers who have ever been in the premier league for about 3 years or longer like Rodgers and compare them against each other in terms of win percentage.
Simple.
There will be only three/four names with a better win percentage than him.
They will be Daglish, Wenger, Ferguson and Mourinho.
Are those managers inept, clueless, out of their depth or any other negative you wish to throw out there?
Thought not.
You may want to pick holes in the manager but his record is his record.
How can you twist a manager's actual record. It is completely black and white.
There is no magic bullet theory, no 2nd shooter on a grassy knoll.
It is just his record as manager.
That is why I put Ferguson's record on my post as a comparison.
I dread to think what you would have written about Ferguson in his first 6 years as manager.
One of the greatest managers in the history of the game would not have got past year three with you as chairman.
I would guess you would have been calling him useless, inept clueless and worse after about 10 months.
That is my point entirely.
3 years into a 5 year plan for me.
5 years gives the manager the correct amount of time to get it right in my opinion.
Others may disagree, but Like I said, I am old school.
5 years is a better time frame to judge a manager.

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25 Mar 2015 20:53:47
I would suggest it is fickle to decide the fate of our manager on 1 game.
Like your name though so I will let you off fella.
HA Ha

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25 Mar 2015 23:35:26
The one Stat you missed which rendered your whole post completely pointless was the stat 0 as in ZERO trophies won so far during that span. The win percentage is the dumbest stat there is IMO because Barnez just posted, it does not account for the a lot of other parameters. As for BR, his record is all there for us to see and the owners will make a decision based on that and that alone. The owners did not give BR 250m to play good footie. They did that because they want trophies (most important stat in football)and success and if BR clearly cannot give them that then why should they keep him? I have asked this question several times and STILL you are unable to answer that, Johbarnes90.

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25 Mar 2015 23:47:29
I hear what you're saying but we are still growing with BR. Sometimes the team is just stagnant with a manager and then it's obviously time to rid. But Henderson was just saying BR is like a twelfth man. The players are getting better under him. I have my frustrations too. Obviously I would like us to win things and I too found it very strange he didn't tweak the system for United after Swansea had figured it out. But Let's not forget the state of the club when Rogers arrived. It was in shambles and now there is a real sense of building something. We went on a crazy run without Suarez. Players like Hendo, Cout, Ibe and Sterling are really stepping up. So i'd definitely say keep. Arsene is a different story, he's been there over two decades.

Look give me Simeone or Klopp and I would be happy. But De Boer? Has he really proven to be a top manager? Is that even possible in the Dutch league? I just hope we don't all turn on a manager who despite ups and downs is getting there, in favour of a quick fix, which leads to disaster. There are no shortcuts in life pal.

Maybe a little patience is needed?

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{Ed001's Note - but how is he getting there? We have looked far worse this season than last, so he was getting there but now is going away from where we want to be....}

26 Mar 2015 05:53:01
Throw a fit Sturridge and Suarez into this seasons team and we would be challenging for the league. Replacing world class strikers is probably the hardest thing to do in the market.

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{Ed001's Note - and whose fault is it that we never replaced Suarez so that we could challenge? The manager.}

26 Mar 2015 07:52:27
redohio. I did not miss that at all.
Again, Ferguson did not win anything in his first 3 years at United so what is your point?
The reason you give a manager time is so they build something tangible.
I am of the opinion that I would like to give him at least 5 years in the job and I point to that record as proof as to why.
If he improves that record by a little then we would be in great shape under Rodgers.
Which in my opinion flies in the face of those who say he is awful, inept etc.

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26 Mar 2015 08:49:25
Again, as Ed points out, the failure to replace Suarez even remotely adequately is down to one man. Facts are, BR has failed. Times up.

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26 Mar 2015 10:17:12
Season before Rodgers: 8th place finish, 2 finals, 1 cup. 100 mil spent. 18 months with 1 manager

With rodgers: 5th place likely, 1 possible final, 0 trophies. 250M spent, 3 years with 1 manager

Does he really deserve more time given the above and the outcome of his predecessor.

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26 Mar 2015 12:31:04
We could finish 4th and win a cup still this year.

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26 Mar 2015 16:27:13
Or we could not and he gets the sack.

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25 Mar 2015 00:36:05
Is Jose Enrique actually going to play any football ??
He's faffing around with dolphins in Dubai now. ffs how much are we paying him for this extended holiday / Instagram/ twitter project he's been on all season?

I know he's not getting Picked but maybe he should show a bit of humility and buckle down a bit

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25 Mar 2015 10:23:27
I agree to the insinuated point which is that we really need to cut down on the squad players we have no need for, Enrique being one of them.

But, it is the international break and he has not been selected for the national team (probably will never be selected too), so he can do whatever he pleases.

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25 Mar 2015 12:56:58
Jose Enrique is the reason i'll never understand Joe Allen hate. While Allen is on the pitch, in training, having good and bad games, he has a part to play. We have players like Enrique and Johnson who don't even play raking in huge wages. Whilst Allen is not a crucial first team player for us, at least he turns up to work, unlike a certain someone swimming with dolphins in Dubai.

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25 Mar 2015 13:14:57
AG - he was there since before the international break, he was there certainly over the weekend. And most players use this opportunity to do some training and work on themselves, especially if they haven't had a game instead of one of our least convincing starting players for months

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25 Mar 2015 14:01:35
Oh come on now, the poor lad is only 28 and played a lot of reserve team football this season. He deserves a break and there are no Dolphins in Jamaica this time of year.

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24 Mar 2015 23:23:13
Everyone moaning about a target man, and ed001 who doesn't like them, I too rather play without one. But if Fellaini works for us so be it! Let's ask any Chelsea fans if they had any problem with a certain Mr Drogba bringing the ball down occasionally from a "long ball" I very much doubt it

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{Ed001's Note - but you said he wasn't a target man and the balls were 'passed' into his chest on the United page. Which is it?}

25 Mar 2015 10:13:56
The new Wimbledon r New bogey team.At least we can't run into them at Wembley lol.

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25 Mar 2015 21:44:39
Found out there Stand-United.
Listen Fellaini is good at certain things and Van Gaal is bringing out those qualities for the good of the team.
It's just not United is it?
Where has the passing free flowing wide men attacking football gone?
I see Big Bird has been selected for the player of the month as well.
ha ha ha ha ha ha
Long may it continue.
Maybe Van Gaal can persuade Big Sam to come in as an attacking coach in the summer.
Imagine the corner routines fella.
The blocking off, the long throws.
Really gets the juices flowing.

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25 Mar 2015 23:37:29
Still talking rubbish. Only a rag will describe hoofball as as "passing to someone`s chest or head.

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26 Mar 2015 16:28:55
Nice one, johnny! The clueless rags are the only ones that will call hoofball free-flowing.

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24 Mar 2015 21:32:04
Damned if you do damned if you don't. If br changed the shape of the team and lost he would have been crucified after being unbeaten for so long, tho should have changed marker for fellani much earlier. We had 4 at the back early season and we couldn't buy a clean sheet. Think we should give sterling some slack he is still very young and what they pay players of his ability is not his fault. Need to keep our best players. all managers have flaws so should keep br unless someone truly special is available, he is a good coach. any way keep believing for next season we are not that far away.any chance of buying Roy race this summer eds think he could really take us to next level.

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25 Mar 2015 08:00:01
The shape is irrelevant. What we do on and off the ball is the important thing

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25 Mar 2015 23:39:13
Changing is not the issue. It was clear that there was a prob and a change was needed. If he had changed it within 20 mins, it would have shown that he was trying to adapt and respond to a tactical prob. He did not HENCE the stick he is rightly getting.

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24 Mar 2015 20:21:24
Eds,

All the talk of signings has already started but the best investment for the team would be on a playing surface where we can play our natural passing game without our 2nd touch bobbling up onto our knees.

Any chance of this happening in the summer or will the work around the main stand rule this out ?

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{Ed001's Note - the pitch is set to be relaid, I am not sure how that would be affected by the building work. I would think charity matches etc would be far more of an issue.}

25 Mar 2015 10:06:04
No the pitch is not being relaid until next summer. Because of the cranes on the pitch and affecting the drainage system. While the work on the main stand is going on.

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24 Mar 2015 20:19:19
Appreciate the detailed response regarding Rodgers, Ed001 and also johnny there

Going one level further from our last discussion, how many managers do you think, in the EPL, are proactive in making changes as the game is ongoing

I have seen Rodgers pulling players to the touchline, whenever possible. While at the same time I've seen very few times big managers like Jose, Arsene do this
Is this because their teams were set up with more anticipation than our side so that they can resort to a different play as the game progresses

Is there a way to avoid these communications during the game, which Rodgers is guilty of doing


Sorry for piling the questions Ed, just wanted a view of the management side

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{Ed001's Note - Jose tends to send written messages on when he needs to, but he doesn't really need to do that at Chelsea, as the players know what he wants when he shouts messages. The small tweaks that should be needed to teams shouldn't require detailed instructions, not once the players get to know the way the team plays.

The worrying thing for me is that Rodgers is still calling people over to the sidelines for long periods of instructional coaching in the middle of a match. That should be what they work on all week, so that during the match he should only need to shout simple instructions on for the players to react to.

If those players don't know by now how to switch from a back three to a back four and figure out who is picking up who, then what on earth is being done on the training ground each day? Is Brendan doing any kind of tactical work with them at all? Watching Moreno's struggles to figure out his position each game, I do wonder how that is not sorted by now.}

25 Mar 2015 07:18:06
Support your manager its like a bloody witch hunt, just because we lost against man u its off with his head.

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25 Mar 2015 07:34:07
Could it not be moreno's fault ???

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25 Mar 2015 09:03:48
I said it in the summer and got crucified. Moreno can't defend.

I stand by what I said; Bertrand was the better option and Brad Smith would not have been any worse defensively.

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25 Mar 2015 16:44:01
Can can,
Don't be naive, unless Rodgers doesn't know where he is not good at, how do you expect him to improve

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25 Mar 2015 21:07:09
But you have now arisen EMS.
My worry about Moreno is his intelligence.
Does he have it in him to learn what he needs to become a great left back or wing back.
He is young but I can remember at least 4 or 5 goals this season which were a direct result of him either switching off or making a bad error.

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26 Mar 2015 15:36:43
My worry about Moreno is concentration - he has games where mentally he just does not turn up. He fails to track players, dawdles on the ball, loses possession, cannot control the ball, cannot pick out a team mate with a pass, his whole game just shuts down. That is a worry - when he's on the ball he looks decent, when he's not he looks like a dead cert to do something that causes us to concede, that is a big worry. Also, though not quite as important, is his inability to run at men - he never seems willing to take a man on, I thought he was a proper attacking left back, I hope we see him "attacking" the left side more, right now he is a stop and pass/cut inside merchant - hope Johnson hasn't been teaching him too much !

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