Liverpool Banter Archive May 25 2015

 

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25 May 2015 23:11:44
come on folks we have to lighten the mood. let's have some fun, we're scousers we laugh at ourselves don't we? Ihave a 10 bob ( for you none scouser's that's 50p aka 70 U.S cents) My bet is if Brendan allowed to continue who is 1st signing to be ( not the ones already agreed) i'm going for a Swansea player ie sigurdsun or Williams in fact no i'm going for both. any takers?

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25 May 2015 23:55:24
It'll be Caulker no doubt. A very technical player, very strong physically and in character, was a wee bit unlucky to be relegated with QPR, but a real character, one who'll add that bit of depth and quality we lack at CB. :D

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26 May 2015 01:54:29
Our first signing is likely to be Jean-Jacques Bougouhi.
21 goals in 26 games for FC Shirak Guumri, the winners of the Armenian Star Premier League. A bargain at €225k and 6 months left on his contract. Surely the step up to the Premiership is no hard task.

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26 May 2015 03:12:18
You guys are crazy, lol! I'd go with him signing Jason Puncheon for 25m cos, " He is a wee man who is always in a good moment any time CP plays us and also fits the way we try to work as well as offers the level of OUSTANDING character and intensity we need in the squad".

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26 May 2015 04:17:21
Anyone who scored against us or who made a tackle against us . Bids in the region of 25-35 million they will play once then spend the rest of the year on the bench or loaned out

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26 May 2015 05:42:12
Vardy and Gayle.

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26 May 2015 07:09:48
Milner

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26 May 2015 07:48:53
Livermore. the lad was outstanding all season but just got a wee bit unlucky during a random drug test. i'm positive we can appeal the ban and get him back playing very soon.

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26 May 2015 12:15:59
I think his first move should be offering Toure another contract.

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26 May 2015 15:22:56
Benteke £35m, Followed by Ings, Milner, another 20m left sided CB and oh Joe Allen for Captaincy.

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25 May 2015 22:27:46
Hey eds,

Just wondering if there was any premier league interest in Marcel Sabitzer?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - No and he plays for Leipzig.}

25 May 2015 23:58:08
He was on loan at salzburg last year is all, had quite a good season, all be it in the Austrian league

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25 May 2015 21:47:43
sorry eds, just meant to ask a couple of questions on my post a second ago. Firstly, do you know anything about the manager situation not already out there as to the likelihood of Rodger's staying? Also, not that there.s necessarily a link to Liverpool as we're pretty much committed to Moreno given his fee, but what is the situation with Bertrand as I really rate him, his loan with Southampton is over I believe and he's surely far too good to sit on the bench at chelsea?
Cheers Eds

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{Ed002's Note - I am sick of the whole Rodgers thing. Chelsea sold Bertrand to Southampton.}

26 May 2015 06:56:48
Im still of the opinion we should have bought Bertrand ourselves. I think he would have done well here.

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25 May 2015 21:34:29
Eds its clear Gordon is calling all the shots here and IMO on a power trip by forcing Rodgers to stay as manager against many of the fans wishes including ED1 there are by far better managers out there not to mention the fact hardly any players have faith in his methods! By the looks of the papers tonight they are saying no change what so ever which is outrageous (or is it the new norm for LFC) the club is obviously a joke from top to bottom! Would you be surprised if they sold the naming rights this summer to recoup their money back from the loan they put in asap? I think FSG are getting played miles out of their depth as demonstrated by the people they have working for them not to mention employing balloteli! i honestly don't see any resolve unless a few players made a lot of noise on the return from this mini gerrard holiday thing they are having? Surely now Sparky can make a comment as the season is now finished?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Sparky returns later this week.}

25 May 2015 22:16:56
R.I.P Liverpool as a major force in the Premier league.

A laughing stock. Caused by an inept administration.

The supporters pay the wages.

Don't forget that !

Those that ignore the supporters, ignore the club.

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25 May 2015 22:28:57
Seriously though Yuri, I go to most home games and at least 75% of the supporters don't even think there's a question about Rodgers staying. It's not see as an issue. The only place it is seems to be on forums.

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25 May 2015 22:38:07
Watch us fly yuri!

You will all thank the pro-rodgers fans :)

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25 May 2015 23:23:08
Maxi96

The only place we will fly to is the Championship league @

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25 May 2015 23:39:53
You must be in dreamland if you think the lazy journalists know what the owners have decided. The eds have said repeatedly that the media is just picking up scraps and putting 2&2 together to make 10 because the owners have said nada to anyone. All the "sources within the club" rubbish is just that. Rubbish! They did the same with KK and what happened? He got the sack. How? because his fate was already decided six months prior and not a soul in the media nor any of us here, knew about it. Until the owners come out and say it, I won't believe it because they have a history of keepin the press guessing and getting the fans hysterical especially, those who follow their pointless drivel. And the pro BR crowd whoever you are, need to chill out before they gloat because a vote for BR is a vote for failure and he IS a failure. Only a pro BR fan will see it diff, just like their idol.

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25 May 2015 22:46:28
That wasn't the sentiments yesterday at the Brit yesterday Ron.

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25 May 2015 22:51:57
I think we were all pro Rodgers when that flying banner came into play, and we just wanted to distance ourselves from it (Rightly so).

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25 May 2015 22:58:30
So you talk to 75% of the stadium's supporters then, Ron?

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25 May 2015 23:01:41
I do not thank the pro-Rodgers fans. If you cannot see the man is a total no-mark. You should have gone to Specsavers.

What has happened. Fans supporting a total loser and idiot.

At one time Liverpool fans had knowledge. Now they seem media junkies that cannot even spell.

How many bad performances will it sink in? Rodgers is rubbish?

Ipso facto, out of his depth !

Forget about computers and statistics
I can work out what is needed on the back of a fag packet.

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25 May 2015 23:05:15
The supporters don't pay the wages tho. Not even close compared to the other revenue streams.

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25 May 2015 23:17:49
What Ron? I go to 100% of the home games and live in the city and your chatting bubbles? Most people I know and or speak to are totally pissed off with him.

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26 May 2015 00:15:29
Brendan is completely out of his depth. I go to nearly all home games and everyone I have spoken to agrees. Tactically inept. Transfer window appalling. Players purchased playing out of position. Hasn't a Scooby doo about managing players or media.
If Brendan had any balls he would resign rather than look to pick up his pay cheque.
If FSG support him I guarantee that he will get sacked in Dec from a mid table position. There are some terrific mangers available now so let's just get on with it otherwise we risk entering a Mike Ashby situation. Sounds dramatic but it could easily happen

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26 May 2015 00:13:00
It's been one day. And you're freaking out about garbage in the papers. The owners have been very generous. Try not to be a tool.

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26 May 2015 06:40:30
I agree about the stoke game ozone, but I wasn't there. I don't speak to 75% if fans but it's quite easy to take a representative sample before and after the game.

P'd off is one thing, but not many I've spoken to think he should lose his job.

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26 May 2015 09:00:02
How do you take a "representative sample"? The majority of the fans also wanted KD to stay, but guess what happened? Fans are important, but decisions are made at a different level.

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26 May 2015 17:47:09
Are you in the corporate boxes then Ron?
Just stick your head in the Sandon and you will hear different.

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26 May 2015 20:03:51
No I'm not in the boxes.

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26 May 2015 20:04:52
I get that AG, you need to address that mantra about decisions to Yuri

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25 May 2015 21:33:31
It truly amazes me how many people believe what's written in the papers or from sky sports.ed2 aka nostradamus has already told us what we need to know about the situation, yet people still pop on here, moan and never read the posts. It really is infuriating. God knows how the eds even put up with it.

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25 May 2015 21:37:09
How they put up with it? It's called making money lol

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25 May 2015 22:23:42
Dear Dorset Red

i have not read what ed002 has wrote and when you ask him he just says read the psots he hates repeating himself , maybe he could be more clear by saying he has wrote about it and its further down in the posts but unless you read every post which many people don't have the time or just can't be bothered they have a right ot psot what they think just like you have in calling people for not reading everything ed002 has wrote ,

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25 May 2015 23:40:38
RTP, simple as.

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26 May 2015 00:25:10
Mbrock there's a neat little thing called a search function. I have no sympathy toward you.

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26 May 2015 00:50:20
How hard is to think too yourself i wanna ask about klopp, so il go and type on search klopp. Oh look lots of answers and replies,no need to say oh ed is klopp coming. Same with a player, if the names not on there then of course write a post asking.

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25 May 2015 21:20:21
Isnt that what you do? A new manager comes in and irrespective if you wanted him or not you hope he does well because as fans you want the team to succeed. Rodgers did well last season, over achieved in my opinion due to certain circumstances, some posters disagree. This season has been a disaster, no doubt about that. Major money gone and 6th place to show for it. i'm convinced we are a better team than Utd, nobody will change my opinion on that, we should have done better. I hope that the powers that be come to the correct decision and remove Rodgers but i don't want another novice in, what would be the point. It has to be a manager of some standing, some experience. If they do insist on sticking with Rodgers then you have to back him, as hard as it may be. What other choice is there? All out anarchy? let's see what happens and hopefully if Fsg are going to act they act fast, either way so we don't have this circus going on all Summer. It is not what is required.

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{Ed001's Note - I agree with you, but I think it would be all out anarchy within the club if he stays anyway. He has lost the backing of most within the club.}

25 May 2015 21:41:27
Ed have you seen the so called reports from "sources close to the club" that Rodgers is to avoid the axe? I know "sources close to the club" could be Dave in the chip shop beside Anfield but do you think FSG could give him a last pop?

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25 May 2015 21:54:59
He's going to avoid the axe and fall on his sword instead maybe?

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25 May 2015 22:05:10
Hey Ed, do you have any idea if those making the decision on Rodgers will consult with the players about their opinions of him, or if they are at least aware of the general feeling within the camp?
Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Of course not.}

25 May 2015 22:08:43
The source is Rodgers!!

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25 May 2015 22:41:20
Why eds I am against player.power etc. But the likes.of coutinho signed without hassle and come out in an interview saying he lovedd working under Brendan and has learnt o's much under him, and he is also the right man to lead us forward.

Does it not count what the planyers think?

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25 May 2015 23:01:24
Coutinho said he was a good coach, which is largely true. Unfortunately we need a manager though.

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25 May 2015 23:48:39
Yes and no. Couts can say that because he plays every week and has the trust of the manager and rightly so. Ask Lucas, Sahko, Can, Borini, Lambert or those he froze out and sent packing like Agger, Kelly, and Suso or those he blames to hide his failures like Sterling, to give an honest opinion about him and see what happens. What does that tell you? It says that players should shut up and do their jobs and their opinions count for very little if anything at all. Now if you want to know what we also learnt about yesterday's debacle apart from BR being toast, is that we just saw how a team can perform when it has completely quit on its manager. If you doubt me, watch the game again if you have the stomach for it, and see what I mean.

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25 May 2015 23:05:36
Sorry Ed I didn't mean whether they will actually ask the players whether they think Rodgers should stay or not, more just whether they are aware of how the players feel about him, and I'd this would hold influence. I can't imagine that an owner would keep a manager if it is known that none of the players get on with him?

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{Ed002's Note - That really isn't how the game works at all.}

26 May 2015 01:30:06
Fair enough Ed, was just curious

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25 May 2015 21:17:09
I was willing to give Rodgers more time for a while, but with now Klopp and Ancelotti both available we have tobmake a play for either of these two.

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25 May 2015 22:08:25
Ancelotti it taking a year out and Klopp (according to reports) is taking 6 months out

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25 May 2015 22:11:27
Can't imagine how much their wages would be, but that would two excellent answers to our management problems.

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25 May 2015 22:16:06
Ancelotti is taking a year out with a serious medical condition that requires operation

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25 May 2015 23:26:55
Rafa can take a year in.

With us !

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25 May 2015 20:53:48
I am interested to know what other members / Eds think about Origi coming?
I was looking forward to his arrival, but after watching him in action several times this season I cannot see anything that suggests he will provide any real threat above what we already have.
In fact, I was reading earlier that he has entered in the worst XI team for France this year by some journalist.

Is it possible to cancel the transfer if Liverpool changed their minds? You would think it was written that it was on the proviso that he sustained standard of football.

I am not trying to shoot the poor guy before he steps foot in Anfield, but I would like to know your thoughts please.

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{Ed002's Note - No, it cannot be cancelled.}

25 May 2015 21:51:10
Give the lad a chance at least,under Brendan's supervision he may turn out to be a world class striker 😏

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25 May 2015 22:31:42
Under Brendan's supervision he may turn out to be an average right wing back

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25 May 2015 22:34:03
kev did you watch him last season , when he was playing well, i think his form has suffered because his head is at our club and not on his game we have all seen it when player are not playing well because something is going on that has turne his head , but i am willing to support the young man because he does have the talent and just maybe he will pay better once he come here because in january loads where asking if we could get him early even to the point where the eds said we would have to pay a few million to get him over here early , so have a look at him last season and then make your mind up or wait for him to fook up before you lay into him , no wonder some players don't want to come here he has not wore the kit and your already saying you don't want him just to wipe your face i hope he plays brilliant all season and be our top scorer , i would just hope you have the balls to hold your hand up and say you was wrong and eat humble pie with the other hand at the same time

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25 May 2015 23:50:58
The boy hasn't even put on his first bip in training and already some want him gone and his contract canceled. The modern LFC fans' state of mind, I guess.

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26 May 2015 07:05:48
Redohio, you're certainly not surprised by such comments are you?

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26 May 2015 07:42:38
I just hope he's given a chance by the fans. I think we sometimes place huge burdens on new players and, unsurprisingly, they buckle under the weight. We shouldn't expect him to bang in 30 goals - let's just hope he adapts and becomes and fruitful member of the squad: that in itself could take time, and that's exactly what he needs to be given.

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26 May 2015 10:24:29
"The modern LFC fans state of mind"

I assume this only refers to not slagging off a player before he gets to the club and doesn't cover constant bile spouted at the manager then.

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25 May 2015 20:51:19
I was driving home from Cork the other day with the wife, the kids asleep in the back, when ynwa came on the radio, we were discussing the feeling of singing that before each game when she said " do liverpool have the best supporters in England? "
It was meant to be rhetorical, I thought about it, thought about this site and replied.
"We used to have"
It saddened me as I said it.

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25 May 2015 21:28:16
Not that this site reflects the feelings at anfield!

On another note, if you class singing and getting behind your team on match day being good fans we must be awful because the place is like a morgue!

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25 May 2015 22:15:34
To be fair, Liverpool are badly in need of something to cheer about. I was going mad in the stands this summer in Charlotte, but I doubt I could have summoned the strength to holler (except AT our players) on Sunday! I'm not a boo-bird by any stretch, but I had given up by 25 in (Which, coincidentally, was exactly what was happening on the pitch)

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25 May 2015 20:08:43
I see Madrid have got rid of Carlo. let the rumour mill start!😉

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25 May 2015 20:28:19
He's taking a year off to have back surgery(from Carlo himself)

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25 May 2015 20:30:52
He's having an operation and taking time out.

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25 May 2015 20:41:18
Ah I stand corrected gentlemen. nice thought while it lasted.

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25 May 2015 21:49:01
He'd still do a better job from his hospital bed.

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25 May 2015 21:51:08
If we had the ability to put the kind of opportunity in front of him that he would look for them I know he would be interested. I'm not saying he'd sign but I've been told he would be interested.

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25 May 2015 23:53:52
Him managing us via voice control would yield better results than the dross BR has given us the horror of watching this year.

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25 May 2015 19:55:29
Bloody hell the season only ended yesterday and looks like everyone is getting impatient. Everyone moaning about the owners and Brendan not being sacked etc. now correct me if I'm wrong but when they sacked Kenny it wasn't the day after the league ended was it? We must all understand that with the level of investment that the owners have put in they must have an in depth review of the club from top to bottom and I'm sure that would take longer than a day. They haven't got where they are by having knee jerk reactions, although they have demonstrated that they are ruthless when needed. I have faith the owners will make the right decision, what that is I don't know. At the end of the day it's there money and I'm sure they won't want to lose much more than they already have, so please have faith, be patient and see how this all plays out. bit of a pointless essay, I know but just thought I'd give my view.
Thank you eds and fellow reds

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25 May 2015 22:02:50
I like FSG, they seem decent people, but when it comes to appointments I don't have much faith. Last time they hired a guy with less experience in top flight management than Garry Monk has now and they also hired Comolli.

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25 May 2015 23:16:17
Didn't comolli , push for kenny to sign grizemann and sissoko?

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26 May 2015 01:00:50
I have no idea who Comolli pushed for Kenny to sign. The guy is an absolute joke who's made a living off of buying Gareth Bale as a LB for Spurs, a position he wasn't even that good at. The amount of money he absolutely wasted at both us and them is diabolical.

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25 May 2015 19:54:46
I wasn't keen on the idea of us signing Milner on a free this summer, but have to say I'd be happy if we got him.

Reason I've turned so to speak is the work rate we would have in the middle of the park both he and Henderson will always put in a shift. I think having the two of them there would cause multiple problems for opposing teams. Also he's on a free admittedly his deal will reflect this in wages etc but there's still no fee involved.

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25 May 2015 22:39:56
I could see why Milner would be a decent acquisition, and if it happens, I would make him Captain ahead of Henderson.

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26 May 2015 16:45:39
No has to be Henderson for captain for me. Possibly Milner vice captain of others leave though.

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25 May 2015 19:33:30
Surprised people are reacting the way they are to what sky sports have said. How can they possibly know what's going on with FSG? and internally within the club. let's just be patient, see what happens and back the outcome.

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25 May 2015 20:46:50
The media know NOTHING about what's going on. I saw the Sky report. All they said was what we the fans on here, already knew as in, there would be a review. They are six months late on that issue. They also said that the review would do everything but BR's his job which is senseless because fans on here already know his job is part of the review. Also, I read in the Daily Fail, a paper that has specialized in making excuses for BR and saying how he would not be fired under any circumstances, have now turned on him and started reporting on what the Eds have been telling us for weeks about Michael Gordon and his crew of reviewers and saying why he needs to go. All in all, the media don't know sh!t about what's happening and are only anticipating stuff and setting it up as a great exclusive when he does get the sack so it will be a bombshell-like situation whereas we have known that for months. Don't believe the media because you have more accurate info than they do, thanks to the great work of the Eds on this sight.

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25 May 2015 21:15:24
The briefing to Sky, James Pearce, Bascombe etc has come from Rodgers himself. Fact!

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25 May 2015 21:28:46
So he is going Redohio? 100%?

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25 May 2015 23:55:56
No, my friend! Just saying that nobody knows for sure. Until the owners say it, I will chill out and wait for the cerdicit.

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25 May 2015 19:33:13
Hi Eds. Thanks for all your hard work. I would expect you will now get bombarded with this question. With Ancelotti now being sacked, do you expect FSG to want to hold talks with him over becoming the next LFC manager? I understand from previous reports Ancelotti would be interested in the job. Any info would be much appreciated

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{Ed002's Note - Not at all.}

25 May 2015 20:47:30
He's having back surgery and is taking a year off.

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25 May 2015 19:31:14
Ed/Eds in your honest opinion and knowledge do u think if FSG stick with BR do u think he can swing this and compete for titles trophies and what in your opinions must he do??

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

25 May 2015 20:38:52
Get a grip one win from a title, how can you not believe we can do well with him.

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25 May 2015 20:49:42
Hahaha. Short and sweet.

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25 May 2015 21:08:44
Personally don't think he can change I've said all along he's a Spoofer as for u maxi muppet what are u talkin about I wanted a opinion from a ed can BR swing it she said no il take that!!

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25 May 2015 21:52:39
It wasn't Rodgers that got us one win away from a title - it was Suarez.

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25 May 2015 22:32:49
Lenin, Suarez missed much of that season, take the blinkers off, it was a team effort.

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25 May 2015 23:57:38
Agree with Ron there. In fact, BR should get the credit as he was the manager hence if I can slate him for being a failure, we should credit him for what he actually did right of which there are a few.

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26 May 2015 01:21:24
Suarez really came into his own when rodgers was appointed. Placing his faith in sturridge and sterling, which many on here would not have been willing to do some time ago, resulted in forming possibly the most potent strike force we will ever see.

Rodgers is many things, and none of them good, but don't take away from the fact that that was HIS team and us playing well was down to him.

And to say it was all suarez is just hugely disrespectful to the rest of the team and makes you sound like you have the football knowledge of a five year old. The only players being carried in that team were johnson and skrtel, the rest were excellent.

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26 May 2015 03:30:42
Spot on, Woolback!

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25 May 2015 19:26:42
hi2 ed02 I realise that this is a nightmare time for u all at the mo!you keep saying fsg won't make a decision on one result but its not one result its a hole season with yesterday capping it off! were are the decisive fsg of the red sox? this hole advisory thing seems so slow and or maybe very bad advice been given I don't no. also u say they haven't sounded out any managers yet why surly they should be wat happens if when they do finaly make a decision to rid us of Rodgers then wat to late for most or some managers. it just seems arse over tit realy does I honestly belive they are good owners but something not right at the moment cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Extensive changes have been made this season, you are simply wrapped up in the microcosm of the team and manager that you cannot see a much bigger picture. People for some reason don't expect anything other than knee-jerk reactions - that was never going to happen.}

25 May 2015 20:22:15
edd I see what your saying but a terrible season and 200 million wasted I don't think is a knee jerk reaction but action is required the word rebuild keeps getting used this is ridiculous a good manager is required we have a good squad and good youngsters who need good guidance. i look at wat they did with red sox witch was decisive why not here cheers edds

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25 May 2015 20:49:55
Changes have already been made and still ongoing. BR's job is only part of that review we will know when we will know and not a second sooner. Just show some patience, sir.

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25 May 2015 22:33:38
Have you heard yourselves?

"We've had a terrible season, quick sack the manager!"

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26 May 2015 07:15:56
Obviously you disagree Ron? The fact is we have had a terrible season, and largely due to Brendan Rodgers, hence the calls for his sacking.

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25 May 2015 19:22:02
I think some fans need to calm down a bit. It is only a day after the season has finished. Don't believe everything you hear in the media. Things can change all the time. At the end of the day if Rodgers stays the fans have to deal with it until his position becomes untenable. We have to just relax a bit and be patient.

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25 May 2015 20:06:46
His position is untenable. We just lost 6-1 to stoke and 3-1 to crystal palace. That's 9 goals in two games against mid-table opposition. Unacceptable.

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25 May 2015 20:43:06
Unacceptable for 80's Liverpool or unacceptable for the current level of the players we have?

Remember whewhen Barcelona lost 7-0 to Munich? Every team has bad day in it, to be fair wr have had a few.

I actually said at the start of the season that the transfers would go either way. Be good straight away or kick on in.the second season much like Tottenham With mosaic, bale etc.

But I am also thankful that Brendan has had this season, so he knows how close he may have come to the sack and what it felt like and to hopefully help him make decisions quicker.

The pressures on.either way next season new manager or not.

Ynwa

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25 May 2015 20:51:08
His list of failures is as long as my arm hence, he will not be kept and the Eds have said based on their info as it stands, they don't think he will be.

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25 May 2015 21:05:51
How could you even justify the possibility of rodgers for another season. He has failed on every single level and it will only get worse. Did he learn from his time at Reading? No.

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25 May 2015 22:00:10
ynwa - we haven';t had a bad day. We have been utterly dire since March. Consider this one fact - Everton's back 4 have scored more goals this season than all 4 of our strikers. That is not a bad day, that is garbage.

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25 May 2015 23:59:23
Maxi must have slept through the whole season and woke up just before the final two games.

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25 May 2015 19:10:38
Ed002 i know you don't like to comment on reports but sky sports news are saying that rodgers is definately staying. Would you please be able to comment on whether you believe this to be true? Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - It is simply them reporting what they have heard from someone of other - no more, no less. It is like the reports of Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Klopp etc. moving to Liverpool. Nothing to get upset about. Although many of the Liverpool fans have taken the opportunity to turn on the owners over what I understand to be, at this time, a simple television report. It shows up much of the fan base to be what they really are - completely naïve, fickle and particularly stupid. It is all dumped on the "Other" page with the usual dross and nonsense.}

25 May 2015 20:41:04
Ed002, i know you must be getting sick of this but now the liverpool echo, telegraph etc are saying that his position is under no immediate threat. Do you think that means he will stay or I they just giving themselves time to make a decision? thanks

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25 May 2015 20:54:37
I posted the same thing up top on another thread about this useless report which did nothing but inform the world about what you and the eds, have been saying for months. They are six months late and know absolutely nada about what is going on. Only naive people will beIieve anything they are told by the lazy media who have been wrong about everything LFC sofar.

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25 May 2015 18:49:16
Hi Eds, Klopp has confirmed that he will take a six month or longer, sabbatical from football. Can't BR staying, so Rafa, Ancelotti, Allerdyce?

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{Ed002's Note - Why do you keep asking about Klopp? Try the European pages.}

25 May 2015 20:30:14
Ancelotti taking a year off.

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25 May 2015 20:32:53
The source is Bild and Klipperty himself said he won't take a sabbatical and is 0,0% tired. Bild is about as credible as Metro.

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25 May 2015 18:21:39
Can everyone just chill out a bit? 'Sources from inside the club' sounds about right, like FSG are going to tell anyone he's getting the sack before telling him. Just wait until the Eds can confirm via a reliable source before kicking off.

Nothing we can do if BR is still the manager next season other than suck it up. Can't think of many people who will be happy with that decision, but we get on with supporting the 11 players on the pitch don't we.

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25 May 2015 18:27:20
Sky don't know any more than we do. Probably guess work. If FSG do keep BR then I'm very concerned about next season. They need to be strong and decisive now. The only sensible option is to sack BR as soon as possible.

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25 May 2015 18:34:12
He won't be. Even his allies in the media who spent the last two and a half months licking his boots and making every excuse known to man for his failures, have now turned on him, saying he should go. He's gone and will not b the manager and thank goodness, we will have nothing to suck up. The players will always have my support because we all know, they are not the problem and indeed, never were.

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25 May 2015 18:43:59
Well I wonder what the " THEY SAVED US CREW " make of this bit of info? Myself and ozone warned you what they were all about, so as the OP has said, just suck it up and get on with it because your all happy with them.

When they took over I continued my stance that I started under the other 2 venture capitalists and season ticket apart didn't and still don't attend cup games or buy any merchandize so as not to put anymore money into there coffers then I have to, and I feel perfectly vindicated when I hear news like this.

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25 May 2015 18:46:04
I hope you are right redohio. They need to make the decision as soon as possible. He's lost the fans, lost the dressing room and lost the plot!

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25 May 2015 19:13:47
Sell me your season ticket waro

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25 May 2015 19:23:36
I respect you having your own opinion waro but it's impossible to say the owners have been lining their coffers with our profits because we haven't made any profit since they took over. Hardly fair to call them greedy, inexperienced? Possibly. But not greedy.

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{Ed002's Note - I suspect he is referring to them not taking on the vast debt the club is now in.}

25 May 2015 19:25:33
How much are you offering Ashy?

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25 May 2015 19:39:19
Forbes value the club at £644 million (aprox, 2015). Could Fsg walk away in profit?

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{Ed002's Note - They are not interested in walking away now - that figure takes account of money coming in two years time.}

25 May 2015 19:49:27
Just to clarify ed, did the money used to fund player purchases and the stadium upgrades come from a loan borrowed against the club?

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{Ed002's Note - The loans for players and losses incurred have been split between the owners and banks. The loans for the stadium will come from banks and third parties.}

25 May 2015 19:51:46
That's exactly it ed002.

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25 May 2015 20:36:12
Thanks for the clarification ed. My apologies waro I didn't understand your point properly before.

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25 May 2015 21:33:04
Waro nobody forces you to buy a season ticket? So therefore you do support the owners financially. Bit hypocritical.

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25 May 2015 22:03:50
Waro if Rodgers gets sacked I'll buy your season ticket off you for face value

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25 May 2015 22:33:34
I'd buy it irrespective of if Rodgers stays or not, the seasons been disappointing but not enough to make me walk away. Season tickets are like gold dust and should be treated as such, if people aren't happy about going to the game what use is it?

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26 May 2015 00:01:52
BR is not that important enuff for me to trash my tickets, if I had them. That's just extreme stupidity

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25 May 2015 15:50:31
Hi Eds.

Would the best coach in the Premier League John Carver be an option if BR was to go?

What would the possible short list be?
Surely the Klopp for the Kop tallk is out of our reach. Klopp with Carragher as his assistant!!! If you were a betting man what odds would you give??

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{Ed002's Note - Why would you want Carragher at the club? He has absolutely zero relevant experience? And obviously you have extremely short memories about who pays his wages? Try and stop the hopelessly dumb questions.}

25 May 2015 16:27:53
You can't really put down anyone associated with Murdoch (presuming that's what you mean)

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{Ed002's Note - So "scousers" now read the Sun then? You are very forgiving people.}

25 May 2015 16:44:03
Doubt carragher really thought too much about who the owner, or should I say majority shareholder, was when he saw the potential pay slip.

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{Ed001's Note - he should have done. He is after all an extremely wealthy bloke and has absolutely no need of the money.}

25 May 2015 16:53:29
Why us si everyone so obsessed with past players?

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25 May 2015 16:55:25
Carragher won't be coming back this soon if at all. Yes you can point to Dalglish winning a double as player-manager etc etc but that was 2 decades ago and the game and the requirements of the job itsef have completely changed since then. Without a solid depth of managerial and coaching experience - which he siml does not have, he would e out of his depth.

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25 May 2015 17:19:36
Doesn't he support Everton anyway? Not that it adds to his coaching credentials.

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25 May 2015 18:35:55
Ex players should stay away from managing our club until they cut their managerial teeth elsewhere.

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25 May 2015 18:41:59
Everton?????

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25 May 2015 16:08:51
Hi Eds, away from what happened yesterday, what do you think of young Sheyi Ojo? The little things I've seen of him is promising and added to that he is a strong lad. Do you see him making the grade?

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{Ed001's Note - I think he will make the grade, the issue is whether it will be with us or not. He is certainly good enough.}

25 May 2015 15:54:05
Redohio re one of your replys down the page, just a question ( not necessarily aimed at you, )when Rodgers got the job, I was disgusted and let everyone know, not just on here but at work and to friends and family. I said how can they give such an inexperienced manger the job, a man sacked by Reading and with 1 OK season at Swansea behind him taking charge of one of the biggest most iconic clubs in the world? Yet got shed loads of abuse from posters on here ( not saying you were one of them ) yet your post earlier and a couple of posts from others praising the ed's ( no offence ed's )for for warning us about giving Swiss Tony the job in the first place which was exactly what I said yet got told to go support city Chelsea etc, what I'm trying to say in my long winded way, is to all the #liverpool'sno1fan crowd on here, listen to peoples opinions and don't rubbish them as negative, take them on board and ask why a posters opinion is against the grain, maybe they have a point that may be valid and don't dismiss it as just negativity.

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25 May 2015 16:54:26
I have no problem admitting that I wanted Rodgers to be "given a chance" when he was first appointed. I am sure you will remember the number of clashes we had 3 years ago on the very same issue, Waro. But over time (significant amount of time, AND money), I have come to the conclusion that Rodgers is not the man for the job. I have stress that my doubts started in the second season where while were scoring goals for fun, he seemingly had no interest look at a very serious issue - defending. Many belittled that then, but it is now a major problem everyone will agree.

Redohio was a very opinionated poster earlier this year, with sentiments similar to those of Ron Keague and DaveBootle, and I remember I clashed with him when he was denigrating posters about being critical of Rodgers. But, he is the very example of a big Rodgers fan who has become disillusioned because of Rodgers' own fault. This is not aimed at criticizing any fan, just a point to illustrate how opinions can change, but at their own time.

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25 May 2015 17:42:37
My op AG, wasn't an I told you so to anyone, it was to point out that people's opinions aren't just negativity to wind people up they are just thoughts and concerns for the club.

Its like me saying I would love klopp to be next manager, but there may be posters who can give good reasons why he would be a mistake, I would disagree with them but wouldn't think they were moaning or negative just as I've said they would be there concerns, unless someone came up with something outlandish.

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25 May 2015 18:27:34
Cyber jousting again.

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25 May 2015 18:46:34
Ron, WHAT?😕

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25 May 2015 19:18:28
Point scoring on the Internet, can't think of anything more futile.

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25 May 2015 19:20:18
Waro, I get your point. I have no beef with you. When you were saying you had your doubts about BR, you are within your right to say that because your concerns are to be respected. Why I clashed with you was that win, lose or draw, all you did was criticize the manager, the owners and the LFCnumberonefan club, who ever the heck they are. That was not opinion. It seemed like a case of you and your ilk rooting for us to fail just to make you all look smart and prove a stupid point, which I could not bear. I had doubts about BR as well but I decided to give him a chance and judge him using his results which is the only way to judge a manager. Had we won the PL last season, we both, his detractors at the time, the eds who thought he was wrong for the job, would have been over the moon. That did not happen and I'm sure you were as disappointed as I was but life goes on. Also, I gave him credit for playing the way we were and getting results (didn't really care about the whole Bielsa stuff until the Ed and I had a discussion about it and I understood his point which came up to be true) because he's the manager and he picks the players and tactics, as well so he'll yeah, he should be credited for it. If we were failing like we did this year, he gets the blame, excuses or questions asked. When this season began and we were struggling., I clashed with many on here including ed01, because all they did was the "I told you so" type posts as if, him failing validates them as geniuses. I thought he would learn from his mistakes and be smart quickly. I was wrong and with every passing game and presser, I realized who we had as manager and I said, "we are in trouble with this guy". This is exactly where AG is spot on and there were many fans like me. I was not a BR no.1 fan type because that is just childish. I will always give the manager a chance because hey, what else are you going to do? If he succeeds, we all succeed. If he fails, we all fail so support him because we want our club to succeed, right?. At least give him time to prove us wrong or right. That was all I was asking for from you and those like you. After three years, we have nothing more to see as BR has nothing to show for that chance many gave him. He has been a disaster and needs to go. He has squandered a golden opportunity to be a great manager for us due to his faults more as a man, than as a manager. He lacks integrity, is proud, arrogant, egotistical, untrustworthy, in denial, self serving and takes responsibility for nothing. You can't see any of these faults by just looking at someone. You have to get to know and spend time with them to find this out. Unfortunately for him, his time is up. Finally, we all love our club BUT only differ on how we get success and that is fine. Opinions can change but that change needs to be supported by facts and hard numbers instead of just rhetoric with no basis in fact nor logic. I apologize if my replies and other posts have offended you in any way. That was not my intention. Cheers and YWNA, Waro!

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25 May 2015 19:43:56
Redohio, I wasn't having a pop at you! I would ask you to look back at some of my old posts because I stated I didn't want him when we got him, but I showed support for him once he was here because what other choice have we got? So win lose or draw I didn't have a go at him to prove I was right, and I definitely didn't want us to lose, paying over £800 for a season ticket and wanting us to lose so I could say I told you so is utter madness, my main issue (and I've seen nothing to waver my opinion) is the owners, but Rodgers got plenty of positive posts from me in his first year, and I've always said, I will give him my backing for the same length of time that Kenny received, and that has long long gone mate.

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25 May 2015 19:56:55
Point scoring Ron? There are no winners in this current sorry mess, only losers. You must be cockerhoop at the news tonight, and if by some major miracle he does turn it around I'm sure you will be on here Ron for some futile cyber jousting.

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25 May 2015 20:09:27
Edifying, Ron. Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - I think Ron is aiming to get a break from the site, he is adding nothing but petty little attempts to point score. The word you would be looking for Ron is hypocrite, it is describing you very well right now.}

25 May 2015 20:17:08
Redohio and Ron. I did respond to both of your posts but they didn't make it on, I know the eds must be mega busy ATM.

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{Ed002's Note - I did not remove them.}

25 May 2015 20:59:02
I've said my piece, Waro. Time to move on because I most certainly have.

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25 May 2015 21:11:34
I thought they didn't make it on ed002 because you and ed001 must be extremely busy with the traffic on here tonight, so I thought they had been lost in the pile, apologies, wasn't being funny with anyone eds.

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{Ed002's Note - No problem. Ed001 will be out sweeping chimneys and I am watching the movie The Wrong Box.} and }

25 May 2015 15:52:28
Here's one that has been troubling me for some time?how could we buy migs when he is so poor with the ball at his feet when we want to play ball at the back and use our keeper in it!!And how if we wanted to play a pressing game from the front would we buy Mario??? Would these not of been huge marks against?? Anyway what do I know!keep the good work up eds and hope this mess can be sorted!!

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25 May 2015 16:11:15
Purely because Rodgers has been winging it for the past 3 seasons, believe his own hype from last season when we all know it was down to saurez and sturridge.

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25 May 2015 19:22:02
Per Ed01, he was the only one available after Pepe burnt his bridges with the club.

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25 May 2015 15:46:37
Hey lfc fans

I'm getting so many messages from
My friends I swear I have deleted so many because U love to laugh at lfc now

But I wanted to tell everyone to read yahoos sport Eurosport article by Paul Parker called . "liverpools biggest problems is brendan Rodgers"

I thought it was really good and it really convincede
100% that's tbe manager must go . I do sometimes blame players when they don't make effort but please have a read guys and gals and eds
Let me know what u think !

And to the eds thanks for allowing me to post on this forum I loved it this season :) and yes I'm
Not a Man U fan

I'll see you all first week of the new prem season. And il be keeping my fingers crosses to a new manager and the freshness it will bring to the team ! Have a good summer peeps!

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25 May 2015 16:04:13
Paul Parker is preaching to the choir. He is not our only prob but is a big prob which will be rectified in earnest.

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{Ed002's Note - Knowing Paul Parker one wonders who wrote the article.}

25 May 2015 16:04:22
Very good article indeed!

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25 May 2015 18:53:12
Ed02 what makes you think someone other than pp write that article out of interest.

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{Ed002's Note - Most footballer's columns are written by someone else. And there is another reason that is really not worth sharing here.}

25 May 2015 15:32:48
Verbatim headlines "Sporting Life"

The Northern Irishman will sit down with Mike Gordon, owners Fenway Sports Group's key man at Anfield, for a "robust and thorough" end-of-season review this week.

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25 May 2015 15:55:51
He will get a smacked bum Nd will still behe manager. If he was going to be sacked he would of been by now. Fsg are as hopeless as him.

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25 May 2015 16:04:42
No news, then. Right?

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25 May 2015 16:57:05
I think that the owners will have someone lined up and confirmed and then get rid of BR. This is not to destabilise the team. Continuation.

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25 May 2015 19:23:39
That must have been part of the review on his position. They defo already have an idea about who they want. Just hope he's the right manager for us because these trial and error appointments don't cut it anymore.

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{Ed002's Note - They are not going to do anything without it being, in their view, right for the club.}

25 May 2015 21:00:06
Thanks for the clarification, Ed.

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25 May 2015 15:07:29
hello eds.

Thanks for the great work throughout the season.

I never thought Rodgers would be so eager to drown himself and make the decision easy for FSG.Eds the worrying part is the gap being created between US and the top 4 teams(financially and quality wise).
So Eds are u optimistic about our future? Is it possible for our generation to witness the great old days ?

THANKS.

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{Ed001's Note - possible but extremely difficult.}

25 May 2015 16:23:09
Every now and then a manager emerges who is capable of great things without great resources, all you have to do is find the next one this summer, not easy but he's out there somewhere.

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25 May 2015 19:25:11
Right you are, gunner. The managers are out there. All we need is the right one because our squad is very good and with the right manager, he will have more than decent material to work with.

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25 May 2015 15:10:34
A lot has happened this season and we are all waiting to see what will happen in the summer.

In the meantime, reminisce ISTANBUL wherever you are today! What a night!

I can't believe it's already 10 years ago.

I hear the players are having a reunion, so I'm fans on here to briefly highlight there Istanbul moment!

YNWA.

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25 May 2015 15:47:15
Forget about instanbul. Stop living up to the stereotype of a Liverpool fan. Can everyone just try be positive in the hope that we will have a completely new coaching staff soon, because Brendan Mike and Colin are doing my head in. Let's look to the present please, because of instanbul is the only thing we can talk about and is all I see related to Liverpool nowadays in articles etc then what's the point defending us anymore.

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25 May 2015 15:10:23
I see Origi's been named in Lequippes worst 11. Congratulations to Ted and the owners for not failing to deliver. The lad should fit in well with the existing shower Rodgers has brought in over the last 3 years.

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25 May 2015 15:20:02
Good job ozone. The lad had not played a single minute of football for us and u are already on his back!! Well done.

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25 May 2015 15:49:52
I know we shouldn't really be criticising players before they've even joined, but ozone is rite.

Rodgers got carried away with world cup fever and wasted another 10mil.

If he didn't sign him last summer would he have gone back for him this summer?

Also if he did would he have cost 10mil? I think not.

Most have said Allen and borini weren't good enough and nothing has changed there.

People are entitled to there own opinion and probably 70% of the time with Rodgers signings people are rote to criticize.

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25 May 2015 16:06:23
It's what he does, Truered.

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25 May 2015 17:24:09
Scratch beneath the surface Redohio and you may find it's another classic moneyball signing based on Sturridge criteria. I'm not having a pop at the lad, I'm having a go at the owners and Ted.

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{Ed002's Note - Don't start the "moneyball" BS again please Ozone.}

25 May 2015 19:29:02
Moneyball is an application of sabremetrics to the sport of baseball ozone.

It doesn't apply to football because the statistical data analysis equations used can only be applied to baseball data.

Saying they are using Moneyball in football is like applying wind resistance data from F1 to footbal. Impossible and irrelevant

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25 May 2015 19:27:30
Ozone, money ball has been debunked so many times by the Eds that referring to it again ruins whatever point you were trying to make. Btw, BR is the one who signed him and called him world class, not the owners.

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25 May 2015 19:31:29
Moneyball is just a statistical method for signing player, alongside using traditional methods. ItS meant to give you even more help when signing players.

And every clubs operates on one and Liverpool, dortmund, Milan, French clubs, athletico have to have such a successful system based on the size of them but the money avaliable to them!

The owners have developed there own method which main.functions are

Players aged 16-24
Buy at our valuations rather than the players present club
Incentive based contracts
Players who are over the age can be signed if they are the right player

I dint know whether they use statistica when signing players but the only one that came about was when sakho signed he had a 92% pass accuracy at psg [complete speculation] I don't have the info the clubs do' to actually look at the individual stats for each player km run, pass acueaxy, tackles, shots, chances created blah.blah

That's just summed up through our signings, the majority fit the bill.

It's not a cheap solution but it's what has been deemed the most sustainable (we can't have a player turnover every two windows like Chelsea as we cannot afford it)

And it is also based losely around the American draft system which is successful for its own reasons. Look into it :)

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25 May 2015 20:51:31
I don't give a flying whatever you want to think about who says moneyball only applies to baseball. Jesus, it's data manipulation and it can be remodelled to suit. For the sake of splitting hairs then I won't refer to it as moneyball, I'll call it 'position specific data analysis to limit financial risk but potentially optimise returns' roughly interpreted as a 'hedge fund'. Select a recognised striker (in this instance Sturridge), obtain skill specific data then find a host of 18 year olds who come close to mirroring the comparative skill data. Go for the best comparable first (unfortunately with FSG, the closest comparable never arrives as chavs, City, arsenal, man utd and a host of other european clubs get in their first) then if that fails go down the pecking order until you get one. In this case that data analysis process has churned out Origi.

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{Ed002's Note - No - Origi was a future "world class" player picked by Rodgers.}

25 May 2015 20:52:20
Problem is in reality we'll get a cross between David Ngog and Danny Welbeck on a bad day.

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25 May 2015 21:24:40
Nothing personal against the lad. In fact, rather than their agents bleeding on about this and that as we've seen with Raheems agent, maybe they should be advising their clients what they're going into. Poor old Origi's arriving at Anfield with the majority of fans harbouring a preconception based on Teds gob. The poor lad doesn't realise that statistics may have portrayed a distorted picture and he's another one who will join the list of others such as Aspas, Borini, Lambert, Ballotelli, Alberto, Lallana, Ilori, Sahin, Allen, Yesil, Moreno, Markvic, Lovren. A complete team with subs in 3 years, it's a disgrace.

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25 May 2015 21:02:47
Thanks for the unwanted lesson, bro! I watched the movie so I know globally what Moneyball is. What I was getting at is that the Eds have said repeatedly that Moneyball is not being used by the club but many continue to use is as a stick to beat up on the owners which is disingenuous.

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25 May 2015 21:17:20
Yes I know Ed from the options put under his nose by the data analysis model and a spot check scouting regime.

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{Ed001's Note - nothing to do with stats, Rodgers watched him play and decided he wanted him at all costs. The statistical analysis was never a part of it mate. Not in any way shape or form. This was a World Cup fever signing I am afraid.}

25 May 2015 23:04:57
Is hanging on to the phrase 'Moneyball' just an example of how short sighted you are Redohio or are you being churlish for the sake of it. I've given you an explanation, yet you retort with the fact you've watched a film called 'Moneyball'. Rather than demonstrating your arrogance with 'unwanted lessons and bro' remarks, digest what Maxi96 and I have posted above and you might be able to walk out your front door and see further than the end of your nose.

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27 May 2015 00:33:24
Moneyball does not interest me because it does and cannot work for football as have been mentioned here by the eds countless times, hence your childish moral lectures and pointless explanation about a system that is factually baseless in footie terms, is just that, as in uninteresting. The reason you mention it is because you wanna bash the owners with it which is why you dwell on it. That is why you spout your drivel about some system based on stats which we all know, mean nothing in footie because in the end, players play, stats don't.we got LS who had terrorized the Dutch league with stats padded with goals and assists. He got here and it took him four chances to score a goal until we played a system to suit him and he improved as a player himself due to work ethic. A stat sheet will never show you that, loser. We used stats to get Downing and how did that pan out? If we had used stats, Coutinho would not be here because he couldn't even make the bench. because stat sheets don't prove your mental makeup, temprament, work ethic, ability to adapt to a new country and league, and the system you want to play to make him succeed. He was a gamble which paid off and that's my opinion, so deal with it. Stats is not how we sign players as the Eds have said yet you go on about it because you think people care about what has been debunked over and over again. The don't so stop with you BS and bashing the owners for what they are clearly not doing. Class dismissed, Chump!

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25 May 2015 15:02:26
BR has me at a lost for words, and to tell you the truth if he is still here next season hats of to him cause it would be the greatest achievement for him yet. LFC is heading down a path where I hope they avoid, sliding back down the table that is. I once said that we need to go for big name players with serious intent and if we fail to land one or two the mere fact that we are after A class players will show our vision and others may want to be a part of a team that wants the top players.

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25 May 2015 14:19:09
Hi guys just wanted to see if other posters or the Ed's know much about Rudi Garcia, the Roma coach.
I don't watch much italian footie so haven't seen Roma play to often, he seem to of done a nice job since being there.
Would he be available? And would he suit our style of play?
Cheers guys

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{Ed002's Note - You need to be asking these questions about random coaches on the European page - Rudi Garcia won't be joining Liverpool.}

25 May 2015 13:52:32
Eds surely by the end of next weekend we will know for certain if BR goes or stay? I can't see any reason to delay this decision whatsoever?

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{Ed002's Note - Perhaps some sort of vote of confidence would make you feel better in the meantime?}

25 May 2015 12:32:36
I'm surprised to see Toure could be singing a new deal. With the managers position precarious as it is, shouldn't the club be waiting to see if the new manager wants him?

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{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the manager. Clubs carry on with, without or whilst changing managers. It makes no difference at all.}

25 May 2015 14:03:02
Understand Ed but with funds limited with FFP etc, offering an ageing player a contract extension when a new manager may be arriving and might not want the player. Just seems me may be wasting money unnecessarily.

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{Ed002's Note - No, life goes on Jonesred.}

25 May 2015 12:14:15
Got to hand it to you, Ed002.

You said when Rodgers was hired that he was out of his depth, and job was too soon for him.

You said after last season Rodgers was out of his depth, and job was too soon for him.

Yesterday: clear as day for all to see.

Too bad FSG didn't give you a call three years and 200 million pounds ago.

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{Ed002's Note - FSG has been taking advice from third parties and will have been aware things have not been great. Michael Gordon's role has increased in respect of the day-to-day running of the club. From a transfers perspective I very much expect much more attention to be paid to the views of Michael Edwards as the club moves forward.}

25 May 2015 13:02:11
Ed, who is Michael Edwards, pls? Thanks in advance!

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{Ed002's Note - He is Director of Technical Performance at the club.}

25 May 2015 14:07:24
Do these guys have a football background? What credentials do they have which might give us hope?
Even if they were successful at Ice Hocky i'd be keen to know

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{Ed002's Note - The advisors have good football knowledge, as does Edwards who was previously with Spurs and, I think, Portsmouth. Gordon is FSG's soccerball guy and certainly knows what he is doing.}

25 May 2015 16:09:22
Good to hear about the people they are surrounding themselves with. Hope their imprint will be felt within the club.

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25 May 2015 15:50:16
why do they buy a football club if they need third parties to tell them if to keep or fire a manager after three years? Honestly why they are into this if they are not interested in football?

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{Ed002's Note - I guess you know little about football club ownership and where and how decisions are made.

If you want the owners out, try daubing abuse on the stadium and see if you can solicit support for a hate campaign. It is the Liverpool way after all. Hopefully then you can get the institutional owners you clearly deserve.}

25 May 2015 19:28:32
Cos that's how it works, clearly.

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25 May 2015 12:13:37
Eds 001 and 002 thanks for your labours of love throughout the season. You both come from different perspectives, but offer great insight.

This season has been awful and surely Rogers is on the brink. One question, do you know whether Rogers has lost the dressing room. Reality Red1

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{Ed002's Note - Thanks. I have already explained that the dressing room is at the top of the stairs on the left.}

25 May 2015 13:30:00
a) The FA Cup semi-final loss against Aston Villa
b) The Crystal Palace loss at Anfield on Gerrard's last appearance there
c) Yesterday.

3 games where the players simply were perfunctory in their approach to the game, a clear indication that they no longer believe in the manager.

Added to this, Rodgers said in his post match comments yesterday that "there were a number of elements to today (6-1 defeat to Stoke), that I was not surprised with" implying that he knew they were going to lose or that he didn't think the players were not going to play for him.

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25 May 2015 16:12:28
Or that he simply talks without thinking first. All could be true, really. He really needs to check his mouth for his next job among many other things he needs to change about himself as a human being, not just as a manager.

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25 May 2015 16:04:53
A number of elements?
1. The formation he picked.
2. The players he picked.
3. The tactics.
4. Brendan Rodgers.

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25 May 2015 16:56:25
Try every single game this season. I cannot think of one game where i was really happy or impressed with us.

The basel exit in the champions league was truly a painful experience to sit through on a desolate, freezing tuesday night. The worst i have ever seen us play.

Until yesterday.

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25 May 2015 19:29:50
If I was the owner, thT Basel night where he cocked up the selection and we played utter dross would have been the last straw for me, at that time.

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25 May 2015 12:11:21
Eds I really do like moussaka Sissoko and think his strength and power is something we could do with, what's your thoughts.?

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{Ed002's Note - He is a decent player who won't be moving to Liverpool.}

25 May 2015 11:54:57
im expecting the sky sports yellow banner across the bottom of the tv screen "Brendon Rodgers sacked by Liverpool" any time now. i'm 150 percent sure il be at Liverpool next season. Then il go if the owners want me to! how many more of these idiotic quotes do we need to hear! I certainly wouldn't trust him to spend a tenner never mind how much we get this window!! I think thommo's right (and I've said this before) but if we spend badly again it could put us back years.

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25 May 2015 12:10:55
The interpretation if thid quote of his is I want to ho but with my contract pay

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25 May 2015 13:04:09
In other wards, from BR to FSG, "if you want me gone, effing pay me!"

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25 May 2015 13:15:49
Probably be the best few millions spent all summer

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25 May 2015 16:13:02
True that, kpm!

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25 May 2015 11:54:06
Hi Ed.s
Just to repeat all the other poster's thanks for all the work put in. Ta very much.

Just a quick question for Ed.1. was Can injured yesterday or just taken off because he had such a mare(been getting progressively worse it has to be said). The guy looked like such a confident player when he came into the team first. Really don't need his confidence destroyed like others. At least it's summer i guess!

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{Ed001's Note - just taken off.}

25 May 2015 16:14:21
Can't blame the boy as his manager has succeeded in destroying his confidence by repeatedly setting him and the team up to fail

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25 May 2015 11:44:29
So Origi named in Lig 1 worst team of the year. Can anyone shed any light on this young lad as I ain't seen much of him bar the world cup.

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25 May 2015 11:57:06
His heart wasn't in it for Lille. He is desperate to join us now.

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25 May 2015 12:50:11
Bit disgusting anyone would made a "worst team" selection.

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25 May 2015 12:56:13
He was far from the worst striker in Ligue 1, but he didn't have a good run of form at any point in the season really. If anything he was probably the most disappointing forward in Ligue 1 but that is only because of the hype that came after his good world cup and purchase by Liverpool.

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{Ed002's Note - He is just a kid but far from the "world class" quip Rodgers made. He has had an awful season with the fans on his back. I cannot see him as a starter for Liverpool and he is certainly not an able replacement for the likes of Borini.}

25 May 2015 13:06:42
Their manager is aweful and their games are a snooze fest so he was the one getting the blame because that's what fans do. I'm happy he's done with them and a good preseason with great support from the fans will help him

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25 May 2015 15:30:33
What do you mean ed? All Origi needs to do to replace Borini is play on the wing occasionally out of position for Rodgers, sit on the bench otherwise and watch Rodgers complain about his lack of strikers and Suarez leaving.

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25 May 2015 21:25:08
With the other strikers he bought staring at one another in disbelief.

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25 May 2015 11:42:09
My ideal summer would be as follows:
Rodgers out and klopp in!
Sterling to stay if Rodgers is sacked so we can concentrate on bringing in a prolific striker and not wasting more money on wingers which we already have in abundance! If sterling does go money should be used wisely and imo be used to attract a top notch striker to the club instead of the likes of borini, lambert, ngogs that have all proved useless!

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25 May 2015 12:08:40
Why keep sterling? he wants to leave therefore the red shirt will never be good enough for him. Get the value for him and look elsewhere

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25 May 2015 13:32:39
Agree with RedalLover, Sterling wants to leave and has massively disrespected LFC, the fans and his fellow pros. I rather we not keep a player who didn't want to play for Liverpool.

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25 May 2015 11:24:26
Independent had Klopp as favourite. Here's dreaming!

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25 May 2015 11:22:24
Brendan still has a job?!

Report back tomorrow morning!

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25 May 2015 11:41:36
I've got horrible feeling he will be here next season. Which underlines a serious problem with fsg.

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25 May 2015 12:12:36
He has failed on ALL fsgs pre season requirements. They are business men and care about making money. They will sack rogers. within the next three weeks (my prediction, my hopes). And if they don't, they will lose more money.

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25 May 2015 12:26:45
Perhaps their problem is finding a suitable replacement ?

Like a number of players. Liverpool could be the place to avoid.

A feeling like can be contagious.

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25 May 2015 13:12:48
Finding a replacement is not a prob because even the groundsman would do better which shows how incompetent he is. The prob is finding the right manager because they made a mistake with appointing him and would not wanna do that again, even tho I don't blame them for giving him a chance. I do blame them for yielding to his demands because he didn't and still doesn't have the CV nor credibility to make such demands. Here's to hoping they succeed.

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25 May 2015 11:19:26
Its been a hugely disappointing season this, by all accounts and measures. and its time for another change which i suspect will happen soon.
But i must point out to something everyone else seems to have overlooked as i see.
Yes. brendan has been clueless and stubborn as mule with his failed tactics and formations. but what about our dear owners role in this failure.
They are as clueless as brendan is in running a football club! They started with a known system when commolli was here and then quickly abandon that system (when commoli failed)and shaked everything up and got us the so called committee to run some football aspects in cthe club which again has failed miserably as it obviously hindered the quick and decisive decisions that need to be made!! And history is a proof in some transfers. let's not forget that they chose a man based solely on his talents of "talking" !
Brendan wasnt a successful manager by any means before coming to liverpool!
Its sad to see the owners of our beloved club so out of their and depth in running a football club as it should. and they need to have a footballing character with history and background overseeing all aspect of the club and stop messing about with ridiculous ways of running a football club!

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25 May 2015 12:19:34
Yes they have made mistakes and they are likely to make more, but the review will clarify the clubs needs and not just on the football pitch. FSG will act even if its to make LFC more attractive to potential buyers.

IMO they have watched from a distance, assessed, scrutinised and learned. FSG are good owners. Just LFC and the Redsox are very different entities

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25 May 2015 13:14:54
They have their hearts in the right place and are taking up more debt just to make us attractive again so can't fault them for that. I just hope they have learnt from their mistakes and will be smarter going forward.

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25 May 2015 13:42:57
The prodpect of owners who are "learning as they go" is not a shameful sight in this club in the same sight of a manager "learning his trade" with us. we deserve better than this.

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25 May 2015 11:04:48
Hi ED 1 if your about!

Why do you think Rogers let his Ego get in the way of seeing what everyone else sees in that this season has been a failure due to his mishandling? I can understand the odd result going against you and brushing it off, but this season has been a train wreck, he bought the wrong players (talented yes but not what we need) he played baffling tactics, he's annoyed the young talents we have in to pretty much making them leave, he's alienated senior players in to again making them want to leave, yet he says he feels he has more to offer? In 3 years he's offered nothing bar a 2nd place finish cause another manager showed him how to get the best from his squad! surely he knows he's on borrowed time and he's looking for his next job so won't admit he was wrong or is he just delusional? I think people would respect him more if he just said "ok i screwed up this is to much or too big a job for one person" instead of the nonsense he sprouts all the time?!

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{Ed001's Note - his ego is too big to see his own failings.}

25 May 2015 11:58:37
But surely this was evident from word go when in his very first game where you were ripped apart by west brom and Rogers told the players in the changing room after the game
" we were the better team today and unlucky not to win "
No one believed what he said that day and it showed from day one he was delusional.
A bizarre man who see's things very differently to the rest of the world.

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25 May 2015 12:13:18
Agree with you their Gunner62 i just find it amazing that his ego has inflated to cloud the vision that everyone else sees, you wouldn't get away with this kind of clouded vision in any other job and i think its a disgrace that its being allowed to happen at liverpool FC!

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25 May 2015 13:22:49
The eds were right from the word go that FSG made a mistake hiring this guy but we were all willing to give him a chance. But he has certain faults not just as a coach, but more importantly, as a man. He lacks integrity, is a liar, untrustworthy, arrogant, egotistical, foolishly proud, and unreliable. Those are his faults as a man which has transferred over to his managerial career. The owners never trusted him with money and that alone was a red flag. Now, the staff, many fans and even the players have turned on him. You can full some people all the time BUT you cannot fool everybody all the time.

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25 May 2015 14:15:22
In the words of George Bush
" you can fool some of the people some of the time, and its them you should concentrate on '

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25 May 2015 14:24:21
Totally agree with you on all the points listed, the only thing that is really poor though is that FSG are ruthless with the Red Sox they Crave success with them ok i know different sport, different income avenues etc, but why the HELL let someone like rogers blow 130 million if they didn't trust him, that makes no sense at all, i know there is a committee but why let rogers sign off on the players and have final say, we could of had bony but ended with balotelli, remys laughing now he's good enough for the prem champs chelsea (good on him), he wasnt good enough for Brendan then, there is serious failings with Liverpool, Brendan maybe the biggest one for being manager, but FSG really need to take some responsibility too and get this Mistake right for next season, i understand they are seen as good owners etc and i don't doubt that but they have given themselves a mountain to climb and i feel for the next manager if he don't hit the ground running god help him

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25 May 2015 16:23:44
Bwetty, you are right that they have to shoulder part of the blame for this as well but I will say that after we came second, I can understand why the owners still let him have his way in spite of their reservations because they would have had a hard time convincing you and me at the time, of not supporting him in the TW. However, they have dug a hole for themselves and the first thing they need to do is to STOP digging and hopefully, the revamp will help them out of this proverbial whole.Just my opinion, tho.

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25 May 2015 20:15:39
Couldnt agree more with your opinion just red must of a poor season decending at the moment i'm sure fsg now what right thing to do is and time will tell sooner than later hopefully : )

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25 May 2015 09:54:56
Hi Ed,

Does finishing 6th mean we have to go through a qualifying round before the group stages of Europa?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Two qualifying rounds.}

25 May 2015 10:15:23
Yeah bring on the mighty T.N.S lol

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25 May 2015 10:19:58
Don't even joke after yesterday.

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25 May 2015 11:57:00
Eds as I understand it we currently have 2 qualifying rounds to play but if Arsenal beat Aston Villa in the FAC then we go straight to the group stage

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25 May 2015 14:58:49
Doesn t really matter if BR is still in charge be it qualifying rounds or group stage we will be knocked out at the first hurdle.

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25 May 2015 10:06:08
To get away from all the doom and gloom what a story yesterday in Jonas Guiterrez.

Absolutely delighted for the guy to overcome his cancer and yesterday was just the icing on a huge cake for him in the grand scheme of things.

Now that is character ! !

Superb

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25 May 2015 10:20:13
Well said mate.

Red Rum

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25 May 2015 13:23:56
Was chuffed to bits for him. Well said, Rum!

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25 May 2015 09:21:43
Ed s any chance of getting monchi and emery from sevilla?

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer questions with "any chance" in.}

25 May 2015 14:20:03
Don't worry Ed. When it comes to Liverpool, sensible doesn't seem to matter anymore.

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25 May 2015 09:33:28
Other than Klopp I'd like lucien Favre or Rudi Garcia to come in. Or maybe give Zidane his first job. Final choice would be get frank Rijkaard back in the game.
I can see us going for Eddie Howe or Sean dyche.

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25 May 2015 10:05:19
Favre would be great! I don´t think we should give the job to a person with no experience as manager.

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25 May 2015 09:53:24
Don't rule out Steve Bruce or fat Sam .

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25 May 2015 10:03:19
Lucien Favre is a very good manager, who sets his team out well and has a history of being successful everywhere he's been. If Rodgers is dismissed, Favre would be a good choice. Maybe he could bring Granit Xhaka with him.

Red Rum

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{Ed002's Note - Maybe Rodgers could take Coutinho with him?}

25 May 2015 10:18:20
Haha, nice ed. I know it's not as simple as that, but Xhaka is the type of player we need in our midfield.

Red Rum

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool already has players who don't score any goals in midfield. And Liverpool has also shown absolutely no interest in the player.}

25 May 2015 11:26:38
based on recent trends ed002, i think the prediction would be to buy more midfielders who don't score goals. hah.

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25 May 2015 13:26:22
That will change after BR who is addicted to midfielders running all over the pitch like headless chickens, is sacked, I hope.

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25 May 2015 09:46:04
Sat here with a nice hot cuppa, and just had a thought. Right now it is not known by us fans what BR's fate is. Unless he is certain of his continuation as Manager next season, he won't be allowed to sign anyone - will he ? So all this talk of players coming could be completely irrelevant.

I just want to add a sincere thanks you to the Eds for their sterling efforts throughout this campaign, and just hope they get some chance to sleep over the summer shopping period, and whatever else might transpire - manager related.

KBL

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25 May 2015 08:37:00
Ed2 you said monchi is interesting napoli. Would they also look to unai emery aswell if they could get the two?

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{Ed002's Note - You really need the European pages for this, but yes.}

25 May 2015 09:38:00
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Learning the lessons from Liverpool's failure.

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25 May 2015 09:54:47
Great Article, I can not agree more with it.

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25 May 2015 09:13:42
BR' if the owners want me to go, I'll go' yes you will Brendan because you won't have any bloody choice. If you had any dignity left you would resign and take your death by football elsewhere because you're killing us with it.

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25 May 2015 09:34:32
I don't see Brendan Rodgers quitting as it would cost him the buyout clause in the contract. This decision has to be made by FSG. I just hope they make the right choice.

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25 May 2015 12:19:29
As much as we all want br replaced by someone better, its ridiculous to think he will or should resign. He's contracted and it has got nothing to do with dignity. I'm sure none of us would resign from our jobs if in a similar position. I can understand we are supporters and passionate. But for br or any other manager coming in it would be at the end of the day a job.

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{Ed002's Note - The last thing you would want then is Klipperty? He has recently resigned from his job.}

25 May 2015 12:20:13
Almost forgot, its all up to the owners now!!

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25 May 2015 12:36:53
I would love klipperty ed. But most people are not like him, in fact hardly anyone is like him.

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25 May 2015 15:03:29
Belive me truered, if I had f***** up at work as bad as he has and let so many people down I would hold my head in shame and get the hell out of there. I know he won't because of the money and because he's too damn stupid to realize this job is beyond him. He still hasn't taken an ounce of blame for any defeat this season.

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25 May 2015 16:10:27
But swish in his line of job if he resigns he will miss out on millions.

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25 May 2015 09:07:54
So lpoking at our list a lot of players need to go or are going
Migs, jones , Johnson , Enrique - I like but injuries have ended his time here, lovern ,Stirling ,lambert ,borini - I like but can see he may be surplus, Balo - I would like to give him another chance ,Gerrard, toure, Coates, aspas, and Alberto - that's 14 players with really on 2 or 3 potential world class players in coutinho and can and maybe sakho not really much to work with

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25 May 2015 09:02:19
hes defo gone whether its announced today who knows. At least the players are having a good time in Dubai atm.

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25 May 2015 08:59:55
Through the roof to say the least with regards yesterday's performance/result.Eds, any ideas as to when BR will be meeting the owners etc?

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{Ed001's Note - no mate, there is always an end of season meeting within a few days of the finish to plan for next season. So it should be fairly soon.}

25 May 2015 09:38:25
It's surely a waste of time flying Brendan out to Boston for a 5 minute meeting. It should go, here were your targets, you missed them all by a mile, you are fired! Surely Ian Ayre can pull the trigger from here?

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25 May 2015 09:34:06
Thanks Ed001

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{Ed001's Note - you are welcome mate.}

25 May 2015 09:50:36
They should just do it via Skype, no need to get him to go to Boston. As for missing the promised targets for the season, it's not just a mile of, it goes beyond that, especially after spending all the money

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25 May 2015 08:59:33
Just to put things into perspective:
Juve's midfield (Pirlo, Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio) cost the club €12.5m. Joe Allen cost £16m.
Hopefully the transfer committee get it right this year.

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25 May 2015 09:44:27
That would imply taking chances on young, cheap players as we have been doing. Yet by doing that the risk of failure is high and the wrath of the fans is brutal. That method requires patience which is non existent amongst this generation of fans. I have high hopes and expectations for the likes of Can, Coutinho, Markovic etc, but it could be years before they become world class players. Then fans will look back and say they were good Rodgers signings, but at this present time fans scream about money being wasted.

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25 May 2015 09:27:10
Joe Allen was not a Transfer Committee buy he was a straight BR buy as was Borini and Oussama Assaidi.

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25 May 2015 10:09:39
Joe Allen for 16m is a joke.

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25 May 2015 11:46:07
The real hope is that there won't be a Transfer Committee after this summer.

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25 May 2015 11:46:07
The real hope is that there won't be a Transfer Committee after this summer.

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25 May 2015 18:32:27
Joe Allen will never be of the same standard as any of those if he played for another thousand years. He's too small, physically weak and dominated by opposition players, his range of passing is poor and he doesn't read the game very well. Why we parted with £15m to sign him I'll never know, but he Sums up Rodgers tenure as manager.

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25 May 2015 08:59:08
Good to see Crouch celebrate his goal yesterday. I hate seeing former players not celebrate scoring against their former clubs.

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25 May 2015 09:36:06
Is that you carra

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25 May 2015 10:30:54
Yeah I agree, why would you not celebrate scoring against a club that sold you. Lol

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25 May 2015 08:45:20
Surely there should have at least been one academy player on the bench? Last game of the season, by the on-field performance it looked like there was nothing to play for, why not give some time to some young talent?

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{Ed001's Note - why was Sterling even on the bench? Rodgers clearly had no intention of using him, so why put him on the bench to get abused? Surely it would have been better to put an academy player there?}

25 May 2015 09:15:16
A lot of the kids played in a tournament abroad, but I totally agree with the Ed, why not play Ojo, Brannigan, Canos, or Sinclair and let's see what they can offer.

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25 May 2015 09:47:40
i do agree eds although part of me thinks it right to make him sweat a little. I don't mind a player wanting to go through ambition but equally he should know half the clubs that are apparently wanting him would very unlikely give him first team regular football anyhow

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{Ed002's Note - Who are these "half the clubs"?}

25 May 2015 10:36:05
Sterling on the bench - it was to get him used to life at City!

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25 May 2015 11:05:31
well eds now i don't know who is really interested but if the fee is going to be £40 million for example, man city, chelsea or top spanish, german clubs

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{Ed002's Note - You are simply making this up Gareth.}

25 May 2015 11:22:47
lol, not really. I don't believe papers but he has been linked to all of the above, B.munich, chelsea, man city, man utd, real etc. i am not saying it will happen Ed02 but hardly making ti up

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained where the interest is - perhaps you could search on that. And if he weren't English I suspect the one interested side would soon drop their interest. He is becoming toxic.}

25 May 2015 08:28:25
Question for ed001,

Can you remember a time when we have played with no strikers and seven midfielders? I don't even think Rafa and houllier in their worst seasons were so negative.

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{Ed001's Note - I honestly can't remember that ever happening before, even when we had all our strikers out injured, Neil Mellor was brought in from the stiffs. Scored a screamer against Arsenal too.}

25 May 2015 09:11:20
I honestly can't fathom any manager ever doing that. It seems such a lack of confidence to every striker in the team when you'd rather play midfielders there.

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25 May 2015 09:15:53
Remember that goal. Last kick of the game I think and half the ground was empty

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25 May 2015 13:30:39
He's out if his depth and always was. Just took some time for all of us even myself, to see it.

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25 May 2015 08:07:04
Just thinking about BR's current situation, got me thinking about Fergusons early years at United.

There are similarities for all to see. Question is, will BR get the chance to turn it around, like you know who did?

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{Ed001's Note - there are few similarities. Ferguson took over a club with no opponents that could outspend them in the league. He took over a club with only one real issue holding them back - a drinking culture. We don't have a similar issue holding us back. Ferguson was a proven winner, we have a man with no track record of success. We can't outspend the opposition in the league if need be. There are so few similarities the whole comparison thing becomes nonsensical. The only real similarities are a number of years without success and we both had a playing legend who was let down by his team mates. They had Robson, we had Gerrard. Even that one has just gone now.}

25 May 2015 08:29:51
Another example of LFC clinging to the past. What happened in the 80's a reason why Rodgers should be given a chance? Every other football club has moved forward and not done things based on the past, and that is the reason why Chelsea and the likes are miles ahead of LFC. Give me a break man.

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25 May 2015 10:14:29
Good god, your reaching lad! That's a terrible comparison, football has completely changed from those days, I'll put money on it that you were comparing Rodgers to Shanks over the last 18 months. Your post is embarrassing to be honest.

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25 May 2015 10:47:29
I was comparing Rodgers current situation, to the situation Fergie found himself in at United, 3 yrs into the job. Both had spent loads of money & failed to deliver, both finished runner up in their 2nd season, then fell away, both had fans fans calling for their head etc etc.

It was just an observation, there's no need to get your knickers in a twist.

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{Ed002's Note - You are just living in the past and looking for pitiful excuses.}

25 May 2015 11:11:00
Ed your living in the past post is just a way to get out of a proper response to reds bbq second post because you know he's right!

Brendan needs time, the owners promised a project, targeted him to build for the future, target young players and are competing with 4 richer teams, and are living in the past if they believe wr should be top of the league this year!

How can you not defend Brendan.either when you say fergie had noone richer than him and yet don't go fair enough Brendan has 4 richer!

Absolute joke.

Brendan deserves another year

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{Ed002's Note - You are a complete idiot. Look who has been spending the money - Liverpool. Look who has the runaway debt - Liverpool. And the best excuse you can come up with is an embarrassing example from the mid 1980s - not living in the past?

Liverpool is in a mess and the fetid Rodgers is largely responsible for it. He was out of his depth when he arrived, as I told you at the time, and is out of his depth now.}

25 May 2015 11:53:52
I'm not looking for excuses Ed. I realize Rodgers has probably had his day. i'm merely pointing out that bigger & better managers have gone through similarly rough times, Fergie being a prime example. i'm not saying BR is the new Fergie, I'm saying however bad it seems right now, it's still possible he could be successfull further down the line. I wonder whether an experienced DoF working above BR, would be a wiser move than just replacing the Manager outright. Last year showed us his potential. He's inexperienced, we know that,but he is a good coach.

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{Ed002's Note - I can see parallels to the decline of Huddersfield Town after the Second World War. I suppose what happened at Third Lanark is far more relevant to your example and what is happening at Liverpool.}

25 May 2015 11:53:52
I'm not looking for excuses Ed. I realize Rodgers has probably had his day. i'm merely pointing out that bigger & better managers have gone through similarly rough times, Fergie being a prime example. i'm not saying BR is the new Fergie, I'm saying however bad it seems right now, it's still possible he could be successfull further down the line. I wonder whether an experienced DoF working above BR, would be a wiser move than just replacing the Manager outright. Last year showed us his potential. He's inexperienced, we know that,but he is a good coach.

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{Ed001's Note - but he has no tactical acumen and is not willing to accept defensive coaches when it is clear he has no clue about defending. The guy is too arrogant and needs to be sacked.}

25 May 2015 11:57:29
I also was disappointed when Rodgers was appointed.

How can you say he deserves another year with the mess he has created?

Clueless and out of his depth.

Just to remind the poster: Stoke 6 Liverpool 1.

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25 May 2015 12:10:35
Sorry ed just looked at the transfers for the prem and you are completely right. Oops.

Transfers in

Liverpool - 200mil
Chelsea - 0
Arsenal - 0
Man u - 0
Man c - 0
Tottenham - 0

Transfer out

Liverpool - 100 mil
Chelsea - 80 mil
Arsenal - 10 mil
United - 0 mil?
City - 0 mil?
Tottenham - 96 mil

Really sorry ed you were right as usual, it wasn't until I looked into It that I realised we should have won league and champions league this year.

Look forward to your 'doesnt matter what the other clubs do' post

Top notch work again eds!! The legitimacy of this website increases everyday. It's got zero propaganda and fitted facts on it lol

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25 May 2015 07:58:18
I hope Real Madrid don't get Rafa Benitez, because, if Rodgers gets sacked as many expect, Rafa is our only option for a better replacement.

Fans are clamouring for names like Bielsa, Klopp, Ancellotti.

You're dreaming, you need a reality check. If we can't keep/attract world class players, what gives you the idea we could possibly attract a world class manager? I am genuinely fascinated to know why you think top class managers would come to LFC?
Rafa is the only one who would, because he loves the club, but he is the exception.

Please enlighten me as to why you think FSG can attract a top class's manger other than Rafa.

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25 May 2015 08:30:07
Why do you think Rafa is a top class manager?

Great guy I'm sure but he's been nothing but trouble to both inter and napoli and has very little success at both while simultaneously falling out with the owners and players of both teams.

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25 May 2015 08:31:52
I though you wanted Rodgers to stay? You have spend a lot of time criticizing other fans for wanting Rodgers moved on, but now you have changed your tune, but still managed to have a dig at the other fans.

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25 May 2015 08:36:23
I should also have added on my previous post that, it is up to FSG to try and attract the names you have mentioned. In their 5 years at LFC, they have allowed over £400 million pounds to be spend and have overseen an experienced PL manager (Hodgson), allowed what the fans wanted (KD), and tried an in-experienced and young manager that fits their policy (Rodgers), and has seen all of them fail. I have so far been extremely grateful to FSG for what they have done to LFC, but this summer is last chance saloon, and by now, they should know that there really is no replacement for proven quality. Get the management and the structure right, appoint the right manager, and that really is the only way to succeed. And to get the right manager, they will probably have to do a lot of convincing.

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25 May 2015 09:28:40
AG, where have I changed my tune? I said "if Rodgers gets sacked as many fans expect".

I don't think there is any point in sacking him, there are bigger issues with the club which means whoever manages the club is destined to fail/finish outside the top 4.

As for attracting managers. Why do you think FSG will be able to attract a top class manager? Last time they failed and at that point the club was not riddled with the same level of debt which limits any new manager's budget.
The club also had 2 world class players in Suarez and Gerrard. Who have we got now?

Any manager who has won what Rafa has won is a world class manager. I don't want him back, but you can't deny his successes.

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{Ed001's Note - last time FSG never even tried to attract a top class manager, so why do you keep bringing that up? It is a ridiculous defence of a failing manager to suggest he should be kept because though he is crap we might only end up with another crap one. As well as trying to blame the club itself for his failure, when it is clear that the club is not 'destined' to fail, people said that same nonsense about Dortmund before Klopp. They say it about every club going through a bad patch, and it is always just a lot of rubbish. No one is destined to fail, we make our choices and succeed or fail because of them. It is those, like you, who expect to fail who do. You carry on supporting failure, and it will carry on failing, I will look for better thanks.}

25 May 2015 12:38:55
Well it must be only me who thinks the club has bigger problems than the manager.

So do you think 3 years ago FSG thought 'we won't bother trying to attract a top class manager, we'll just go for Martinez and Rodgers'? They didn't even approach Rafa then.
Klopp ruled himself out along with several others very early on. What has changed at LFC this time? He didn't want to talk to the owners then.

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25 May 2015 12:59:52
Rafa is in the past. Let it go.

Rodgers and martinez were the only ones even remotely available at the time. How do you expect the owners to magic a top class manager out of thin air? Who do you even suppose would come?

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25 May 2015 13:51:08
At least Ron is consistent. Yeah, at being wrong. You've been found out as a BR cheerleader and now that your boy will be sacked, you are doing the exact same thing he does as in, blaming the club, the owners, other fans and the eds instead of admitting that you have been wrong.no wonder you like this loser and failure of a manager. You have the same qualities The probs we have are mostly BR's fault yet you defended him and slated other fans for disagreeing with you. You even posted once, "He won't be sacked. Move on." nowWe have bigger probs. No sh!t, Sherlock! Thanks for the info, CNN! Some of the bigger probs we have had now are also his fault as in wasted funds, playing staff mess an so on. So pare us your worthless rhetoric and drivel because you have been found out as just as disingenuous as your idol. Class dismissed, chump!

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25 May 2015 07:19:24
#kopwantsklopp let's get it trending!

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25 May 2015 07:51:59
Is that really going to convince Klopp? "Although they don't have Champions League football and there's a restricted budget for a while and although I could have chosen just about any other managerial project in the world.the social media campaign convinced me to take the Liverpool job".
Excuse my cynicism but we are not an appealing prospect for the cream of the footballing world at the moment. Klopp, Cavani, Ancelotti, Messi and the rest have far better options on the table right now that will pay more and offer a lot better chance of glory and trophies. We have overspent and underachieved our way to sixth place without CL football and it saddens me deeply to say the reality is that there are only second tier managers and players that are likely to join us at the moment. We are a huge club, huge following, huge history, but the reality is that, as it stands, top 4 next season would be a phenomenal achievement.

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25 May 2015 09:14:46
How about #kloppjointhekop instead?

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25 May 2015 11:24:38
For what 3 years where he delievers a title challenge, cup runs, losing the one.world class player he had, loses his other striker through injury and gets tbe boot because wr should be winning the league as we're defending champions with just 26 years inBetween.

We are the worst fans in the world end of. ForgeT The media performances, and whatever else the eds have fed you. The man was nearly in tears yesterday. This club means so much to him. You All want the greener grass.

I hope klopp does the right thing and goes to the biggest club. He can get and Brendan stays.

Klopp has taken dortmund backwards this campaign as has Brendan with us but look at the freaking send off he got and we can't even stick by Brendan Without him even being sacked yet. We're the worst fans in the world, the most obnoxious self righteous people in the world of football. Show a little bit of support to our manager not everyone else's!

And as for results like that you all think arsene is the business remember the hidings they have take 5-1 us, 8-2 united, 6-0 Chelsea? You don't base anything on results or indifferent campaigns, show some faith and you will be rewarded.

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{Ed001's Note - nearly in tears? Means so much to him? Are you for real? This is a wind up right?}

25 May 2015 12:39:02
Mick: you're doing a worse job than Brenda mate. You didn't even tweet it yourself.

But, to be fair, I thought the first half of your post was outstanding and showed a lot of character.

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25 May 2015 13:13:23
Rodgers was in tears because he knew he pickled up! His livelyhood is on the line! If he was upset, which i can't comment on, its because his own personal reputation and career had been damaged, nothing to do with feeling bad for the club.

If he felt so bad for the club why hasn't he apologised for the enourmous debt he has racked up? Or not winning anything for three years? Or completely mismanaging players and ruining careers? Or actually apologised for the game yesterday rather than saying sorry and proceeding to take no responsibility?

Oh and klopp actually had success at dortmund. You know, won things. While spending buttons because the club was in dire straights financially, not crying like a baby for a war chest every window. Klopp also realised he had overstayed his welcome and resigned out of humility - not staying on so he could wait for a big pay off when sacked.

I agree that liverpool fans are the worst in the world nowadays but they sure as hell do have the worst manager to match that.

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25 May 2015 14:08:02
And intensity, as well.

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25 May 2015 06:11:32
The owners will fix this, they have to if they're serious about LFC. We need a manager that has a name in the game. Similarly to how first Warrior to be the shirt manufacturer, now it is New Balance. Everybody knows New Balance, it is the same company but NB is a cool brand!

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25 May 2015 03:43:53
News Reports that Emry is off to AC Millan. One possible replacement is already off the board.

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25 May 2015 03:19:53
I just want a manager that will play Can in midfield .

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25 May 2015 07:11:58
Can slows the tempo too much, he is not suited to the premier league.

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{Ed001's Note - those marauding runs from the back defo slowed the tempo! How on earth you can make a judgement like that based on him playing in the defence I will never know. He has not had a chance to settle in the midfield to be judged on, but you are already on his back!}

25 May 2015 07:26:46
This Ron keague guy seems hell bent on accusing each and every player in the team of being c**p but refuses to blame his idol clueless Brendan for the club's suffering. There is nothing wrong with any of our players, but there is a everything wrong with our pretender manager who has dragged the club down to his level. Get over Brendan mate. He is an incompetent manager whose best bet is West Ham or Newcastle in the short and medium term. And i really do not care what he does in the long term but it surely will not be Barca or Real as he simply does not hack it imo.

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{Ed001's Note - I can't see how suggesting every player Rodgers chose is refusing to blame Rodgers? Surely if the players he buys are crap, if they are then to blame for results being poor, then that is the fault of Rodgers for buying them?}

25 May 2015 07:45:16
IB - he is not my idol. I do not refuse to blame him.
I have said I would not sack him, but that is mainly based on the fact that we will struggle to replace him.
Is 3 years too long for you to remember the last time FSG were looking for a manager? Even Rodgers turned them down initially. Do you really trust them to do better this time?
FSG are as clueless as anyone when it comes to football and running a football club.
The structure of the club is a complete shambles and sacking the manager is the equivalent of putting a new roof on a house that has subsidence.

I have no love for Rodgers but sacking him and appointing another, like him, is destined to fail and a waste of money until you get the structure of the club right.

As for our players, how you can back any of them after yesterday's performance beggars belief. Did you watch the game?

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25 May 2015 08:18:16
Can not suited to pl? Disagree mate; while his confidence has been shot in recent weeks, earlier on in the season he looked class. Remember Bolton away? His control on the midfield and forward runs changed the game for me and if he plays there regularly I think he'll start dictating the tempo. He reminds me a little of Whelan

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25 May 2015 08:23:24
So sacking Rodgers would be a waste of money Ron but keeping him wouldn't be? If he stays as manager I would not give him a single penny to spend at all as he would buy players we don't need and then badly mismanage them as well.

Maybe you're right about not being able to attract any new manager, it's a sentiment I agree with to a certain extent but I would rather fire Rodgers and give Evans a year in charge as he would do much much better with the exact same squad of players.

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25 May 2015 09:57:04
To be fair to Ron, if what he is saying is that getting another manager without a proven record etc etc could be just as bad or worse than what we have now. That seems logical.
I was for Rodgers getting another year a while back but since the last 10 games my confidence has waned considerably.
For me Klopp would be ideal, not only in terms of his ability and track record but his enthusiasm for the game! that's what we need massively, a manager that deosnt take everything as seriously as the premiership has become.

In saying that i do not expect him at all although i will disagree with Eds that us losing 6-1 will make the chances of his arrival less likely-i personally think he would see that as a challenge and something he could improve vastly.
HOWEVER, don't think he'll come at all, just dreaming

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25 May 2015 16:37:33
Ron has no idea what he is talking about so nothing to see there. Also, I have never read any of his comments suggesting that he did not want BR sacked. Never! Also, how does he know we will struggle to replace him? Has hhis crystal ball been repaired? Nonsense! We don't need a big name, per se. We need the right manager for us who may not necessarily need to be a big name.

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25 May 2015 02:18:09
Hey ed01 this isn't a brodge question, its just that my everton mate was raving about barkley last season. However watching him this season and you wonder what's so good about him. Watched him against spurs and his lack of a footballing brain is there too see. I just wanted to know your opinion of him ed01 as you are straight up with the truth unlike the media who hype any english player who can kick a ball straight.

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{Ed001's Note - plenty of talent and skill but being badly coached. He needs a lot of work to develop tactical knowledge and to teach him positional sense, when and where to run etc. The lad is being ruined by Martinez and his lack of real coaching.}

25 May 2015 01:22:02
Thanks to ed001 & ed002 - your comments have kept me going this season! I've supported the Reds for nearly 50 years and this is the first time I'm glad the season is over. Believe it or not I kept the faith in br longer than most even after the cl debacle but after the Utd game that was the final straw for me, I can only hope the manner of this defeat tells the owners that br has lost the dressing room and his tenure must end.

However I have hope and think the squad needs tweaking rather than a massive overhaul and we have some exciting young talent who we all hope will make an impact soon, maybe not next year but in 2 years maybe. So my transfer policy would be to buy 'old'; experienced players who could help us out for a couple of years, add some experience to a young squad and have the impact in the way mcAllister did.

Ed002 alerted us to Hernanes - genius shout! I'd add Milner for sure and two more controversial choices - Alves and Tevez. One would be wage heavy but would settle due to Coutinho and Lucas (one of first tasks for new manager is to convince him to stay) and the other can't be as much trouble as Balo and before anyone says Utd, I'll remind you about Ince who was there a lot longer.

I'd get Garbutt too and possibly a new GK perhaps Begovic. Hope Ilori can be convinced to stay as I think he can add something. As Origi will be here and maybe Yesil can get to the next level there is no need to add Ings. What will he add that Sinclair couldn't in 12-18 months?

So let's keep positive and hope we get the players who are proud to wear the shirt. Have a good summer everyone. YNWA.

Had a dream last night that Vidal joined - didn't want to wake up.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

25 May 2015 01:16:29
Things we need this summer:-
1. New structure in place
2. New manager
3. People to liase with loan players/youth tell them where they stand ect.
4. Fans to not put too much pressure on the club
5. Read the posts before asking the eds if player x is coming.
6. Click disagree with this post as it makes no sense.

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25 May 2015 07:13:28
Well there is very little chance of us getting past number 1 on your list.

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25 May 2015 07:56:01
Can I add:-
7. New manager

Oh, and also:-
8. New manager

Thanks

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25 May 2015 01:38:11
Well looks like you guys got slightly lost towards the end of this season and it's not surprising with everything that's going on. Just wanted you opinion on the solution.

For me like Arsenal I think the signings are obvious, being realistic I think you should be looking at:
Begovic
Shawcross
Milner
Austin
Ings

Like us you need a solid no nonsense GK, a Shawcross Skrtel CB partnership would be Nasty, Milner Can and Henderson as your midfield 3 and Austin as your ST until Sturridge gets fits and Ings just to give you something off the bench. Think these are all realistic considering where you finished. Outside looking in it's hard to judge the whole Rodgers thing as we have had very bad times with AW but a change is not always the answer, but starting Lallana and Coutinho Uptop today was just madness

As we gooners always say "there's always next year:)"

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25 May 2015 08:24:53
Why would anyone want Shawcross to be part of their defense? Seriously I'm curious to your reasoning

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25 May 2015 08:59:58
And I think arsenal should re sign bendtner eboue senderos and mannone but that's just from the outside looking in

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25 May 2015 16:39:01
If they are that good, why is Arsenal not signing them?

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25 May 2015 01:36:11
Well. Just watched the match and if the penny hadn't already dropped. ! Ouch.
It was like watching a bunch of players in pre-season who were new to each other and couldn't quite figure out the game plan. What a contrast to last season.
Seriously bored of the excuse of losing Suarez. That, Sturridge injured and the Sterling fiasco is BR's reasoning as to why its been such a tough season. Seriously??
He had the money and then some to buy what was needed to strengthen the squad.
I don't expect any knee jerk reaction by FSG although i'm sure they've been weighing things up for a while now but this has just made it a whole lot easier for them to dish out BR's P45.
My fear is that our desired replacement won't be that easy to come by. The Klopps of the world will have their many suitors and I doubt we are quite as attractive option as once was for such high profile names, especially without euro competition to ours.

For all the money FSG have splashed their most important signing could possibly be BR's successor. We seriously need to get this one right if we are to have any chance of picking ourselves up. We've already been squeezed out of the top tier by the big money boys and some of the mid-table teams are hungry and getting stronger.
Its going to be a very interesting summer!

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25 May 2015 00:32:00
It's a real shame considering going into the oh so near Chelsea game last season most people including me felt Rodgers was going to bring back the good days, after this season it's clear he has lost the dressing room, he has to go. my main concern is not who comes in but we gain stability and professionalism , we must look like a professional club again, for too long we are overpaying on players every time we look at a player every Tom dick and harry knows about it , info is being leaked on things about training spats contracts agents etc. ,
Fellow reds I leave you with this after today's game it can only get better

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