Liverpool Banter Archive May 25 2016

 

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25 May 2016 22:45:33
Bayern Munich CEO K. H. Rummenigge is quoted as having said "We have told our opinion to Mario (Gotze) in a serious way and very clearly. He knows, how the club thinks and he knows, how his future coach thinks. "
Asked, why Gotze made the statement to stay, Rummenigge replied: "Difficult to say. I held talks with him, also Ancelotti. Mario knows the thoughts of FC Bayern. Mario must assess for himself - will I play consistently? "

This is as big a kick in the ass, as I have ever seen before. They really do not want that boy over there. LOL (will be fun watching this circus over the summer) .

Believable6 Unbelievable1

25 May 2016 23:41:54
They want to sell
He wants to move
He wants his loyalty payment.
If they get a serious offer I think they will accept it. They can't afford to lose him on a Bosman (well they can "afford" it but they won't want it to happen) .


26 May 2016 03:42:07
Agree with Ron.


26 May 2016 09:49:44
It'd be really funny if Gotze left Bayern on a Bosman ruling. What goes around, comes around. If you remember, Robert Lewandowski left Dortmund on a Bosman to Bayern just a couple of years ago.


25 May 2016 20:41:19
I know this isn't a rumour but many fans I no personally and myself included, don't really know how the transfer dealings happen at this club. every year we seem to stall at the final hurdle as we have "annoyed" the other club. Could you shed any light I'm sure many people would be interested?

Believable2 Unbelievable2

25 May 2016 22:52:25
I've seen Ed002 explain this at least 10 times in the last year. RTFP or UTFSF.


26 May 2016 01:26:26
We act like the deal is done, overtly courting the player in the media, manager talks about the player in an interview and basically crack the champagne before there is any ink on the contract.

Zielinski was photographed with an LFC shirt on, which would of irked Udinese to the point emotions then start getting involved because we flirt very closely with "tapping up" players, instead of getting the clubs permission to start negotiating with them (although I am sure back room tapping up occurs all the time with agents and 3rd parties) we seem to make extroverted attempts.

It really looks like a lack of professionalism and respect to other clubs.


26 May 2016 01:50:30
I have a question that unless LFC gave him the shirt it's not tapping up. I understand that that there have been other things done, but if a player puts on another clubs shirt that's on them right. ( Corey Dillon who played for the Bengals used to wear Steeler hats in press conferences he did this to be a free agent. No one blamed the Steelers)


25 May 2016 23:45:00
Ed002 is your man for this one. However, my understanding is we annoy other clubs by continuously 'low-balling' with mad offers, we use players to talk to players and about players to try to unsettle them. Basically I think we go about our business like we are Real Madrid or Barcelona but we haven't got the recent prestige of those clubs.


{Ed002's Note - These are all very good points. LIverpool would be miffed if Coutinho were being phoned by the Barcelona manager, photgraphed in a Barcelona shirt and be talking to the press about Barcelona. Hence why Udinese are pissed.}

26 May 2016 03:44:40
Agree with Ron and Ed002, but Zielinski putting on a Liverpool shirt had nothing to with Liverpool I think. Some sort of media team from Poland sort made it happen, and if anything, I think the blame on this should go to Zielinski.

I agree we need to be more professional when contacting players for a future move.


26 May 2016 03:55:11
I mostly agree. but the Liverpool shirt had absolutely nothing to do with Liverpool.


{Ed001's Note - that's not the point though is it. You have a player being publicly courted by a club, then being pictured in their shirt. Whether it is our fault or not, we should apologise to Udinese and make sure to leave Zielinski well alone.}

25 May 2016 20:23:53
Ed001 - saw that you had said Chilwell is close to being done. Do you think he's coming in to be first choice or will he be an understudy for Moreno? Or will we look to bring in him and Hector and Moreno be sold do you think? Also if possible who do we hold interest in centre midfield wise other than Zielinski and Dahoud do you know if it looks like both of those are unattainable, unfortunately as Dahoud looks a serious prospect.

Believable4 Unbelievable1

{Ed001's Note - he will not be understudying Moreno.}

25 May 2016 22:24:38
That's great news. Whoever else comes in is a bonus from here on out but getting keeper and left back were huge this summer so adding them to Matip and then Grujic it's a good start even if there is doom and gloom from some fans.


25 May 2016 22:38:38
Just like Karius will not be understudy to Mignolet.


26 May 2016 01:04:12
I assume that signals the end of smith and moreno, but what about gomez? Does anybody know about his place in the team? I hope klopp doesn't get him brendaned.


26 May 2016 02:30:54
Gomez is a CB that was played out of position by Rogers. I think Smith will go out on loan. I also don't think Moreno is going anywhere. He's too young to give up on. I think Chilwell, if signed, will push him to be a better defender or Moreno will find himself as the second option.


25 May 2016 22:13:35
Is Moreno looking likely to stay then?


{Ed001's Note - depends on if we can find a buyer or not.}

26 May 2016 03:46:01
Why would Smith go out on loan? He is at a point in his career where he needs to play, and frankly, I don't see a long-term future for him at LFC. It is also worth noting that he wanted to leave before his new contract, so I would just sell him if we get Chilwell.


26 May 2016 08:31:31
I'd sell Moreno to anyone who'd take him and have Smith and Chilwell as the two competing left-backs. Both young, both with much promise, they'd spur each other on as both and perhaps aid each others development if not each others drive.


25 May 2016 20:23:41
Jurgen has just said that new goalie will CARRY US (kari-us) too glory?

BUM BUM the old ones are still the best.

Believable10 Unbelievable1

25 May 2016 22:52:02
Didn't a poster say that on here the other day?
Maybe Klopp reads the site lol.


25 May 2016 23:01:44
its what Tottenham defenders say 'come on loris karius'


25 May 2016 20:02:48
Apparently sturridge got injured today.

Believable3 Unbelievable2

25 May 2016 20:13:18
He will only warm bench anyway as kane and vardy way ahead of him.


25 May 2016 20:13:46
He has been left out of training as a precaution.


25 May 2016 20:48:15
Didn't take woy long did it.


25 May 2016 21:44:37
in what universe is Vardy way ahead of Sturridge, 007.


25 May 2016 22:26:35
This one, the one where vardy scored 24 league goals and helped guide his team to the title by arrowing in speedy shots and playing like a true Spartan.


25 May 2016 23:34:14
One season vardy scores copious amounts of goals and all of a sudden he is better than Sturridge who has been doing it regularly for us for the past 3 seasons when injury free. Anybody who would swap Sturridge for Vardy clearys hasn't a clue what they are on about and need to get a reality check.


25 May 2016 22:52:16
In Roy Hodgsons universe 😄.


26 May 2016 02:42:39
Except he hasn't done it regularly for us. Yes when he's injury free but how often is that, vardy doesn't even get injured. Suarez hardly ever got injured and look at the impact he made. Sturridge has had one standout season 13-14. Top striker but vardy is currently ahead of him, so is Kane.


26 May 2016 05:28:22
Vardy is the man. he has been my favorite player of last season, though other players like Mahrez, Payet etc are more talented. obviously.

Firmino has been the best from Liverpool for me.


26 May 2016 11:05:13
I'd go with vardy. Fine line tho. But I'd go with the form man and also the player who has shown his hunger is unmatched all season.


25 May 2016 19:59:45
Thanks to everyone who wished me luck earlier. Operation was a success and I'm sat in my ward eating biscuits, sandwiches, and drinking tea!

Took me ages to type this with just my left hand though!

Believable9 Unbelievable4

25 May 2016 20:14:25
It's going to make more than just typing difficult I think.


25 May 2016 20:29:24
How did you do your right hand in?
Thinking about stats too much? ;)


25 May 2016 20:35:05
Hope you feeling better mk speedy recovery.


25 May 2016 21:21:37
Haha, I'm being kept in overnight. And no not quite Mikey ;) had something called am enchodroma. It's a non-cancerous bone tumour.

So although there was a lump involved, it wasn't in my pants!

Thanks jamesy!


25 May 2016 21:28:07
Wait till you have to brush your teeth with your left hand!


25 May 2016 21:28:17
All the best in recovery MK. I'm at the start of my 6th week of recovery after two ops on my left hand. Make sure they get all the stitches out. I had one left in from two weeks ago and another guy in the hospital. They left 3 in him! Two week delay in me getting back to work!


25 May 2016 21:43:39
All the best mate . Get well soon . YNWA.


25 May 2016 22:19:33
Cheers lads. Thanks for the advice Gazza!


25 May 2016 23:12:37
Speedy recovery mate.


26 May 2016 02:26:15
All the best MK.
YNWA.


26 May 2016 10:53:18
Speedy recovery, YNWA.


{Ed001's Note - oh sorry Adam I missed this somehow. Glad it went well mate, get well soon!}

25 May 2016 19:48:35
Would like to wish rafa all the best at Newcastle as its nice to see him back in the english game and hope he does well. While i didn't agree with everything he did he still gave us Istanbul and I for one am very grateful he did. Possibly my best footballing night.

Believable11 Unbelievable1

25 May 2016 20:14:47
Good luck to Rafa at Newcastle.


25 May 2016 22:44:49
Indeed. Think he's a brave man because the championship is a totally different league.
Hopefully he'll get them back up first time of asking.


25 May 2016 23:47:30
If Rafa wins something at Newcastle he will become a Geordie diety. 😄
Good luck Rafa 😎.


25 May 2016 19:29:52
Personally think guardiola, mourhino have BIGGER rebuilding problems than klopp or conte. People not happy with intended targets but he's building a TEAM and knows full well that 11 superstars don't make a team,

Believable9 Unbelievable1

25 May 2016 20:36:43
I know it's not all about money but they all can just throw it about mate. We are skint!


25 May 2016 21:48:01
LOL

Thats rich coming from a team that finished 8th and 6 or 7 points behind us whilst we were mismanaged for 2 years by a dutch ego maniac. You will not get within 10 points of us next year and will not finish top 4 either. back to usual business arsenal, city, united and pick one from chelsea or spurs.


25 May 2016 22:16:14
City have an aging squad and quality with a few stars, aguero de bruyne silva, where we have a young squad with potential but no one on that level yet. It is similar but If he brings the right players in, a CB and a cm for starters, they will be right up there.


25 May 2016 22:43:39
What does it matter, X manc. You we didn't make top four, neither did you after spending 250m buying duds like Depay, Morgan, Schweini and whose best players for the last three years is a goalkeeper. And don't forget, Klopp dumped your lot out of Europe without even breaking a sweat. Good luck with Mou vows he will make you as toxic as he has made other clubs in the past. N btw, Klopp owns Mou and is undefeated against him. Happy Summer holiday.


25 May 2016 22:36:04
X File's post above reminds me of Sydney saying we would finish 30 points behind United in 13/ 14. Fingers crossed the end result is similar.


25 May 2016 22:52:27
I was saying the same thing earlier 007, I honestly can't see Jose or Pep being the instant gratification supporters want. If DDG leaves in the summer United will struggle, and City need to rebuild. Be an interesting season next year.


26 May 2016 00:17:39
Deserve each other. Neither got any class an both finished.


26 May 2016 02:46:30
Jose and pep obviously have advantages that klopp doesn't plus it's not like klopp has given us instant gratification and if he did then mourinho and pep should have no problem. We will see next season.


25 May 2016 19:07:38
EDs
Do you expect a striker to be signed
This summer, I'd so who too your knowledge are we interested in
Also
Do you expect klopp to be given enough money to sign who we need, so far he has only spent 12 or so million, and not heard mich more about other players that we are 100% interested in
Cheers.

Believable1 Unbelievable2

{Ed001's Note - depends on who goes. I really do not see that question makes any sense, his job is to spend as little as possible to build a team to win. Why is only spending 12m seen as a bad thing?}

25 May 2016 20:05:01
Grujic doesn't count as klopps for me it was something that was already done that he obviously agreed to but I wouldn't class him as klopp personally.


26 May 2016 02:49:05
Klopp personally called Grujic.


{Ed002's Note - That was not a problem.}

25 May 2016 19:08:19
Wow, people on here are so pessimistic! Seriously, get a grip, before Klopp came in, did y'all think that we would have gone to two cup finals? Did any of you think that players like Lovren would improve so much so that he would score the winning goal against Dortmund after putting in strong performances? Did youse think that we would be playing entertaining football with verve and confidence (albeit inconsistently)? No, no and no.

Whilst Klopp is not without his faults such as the signing of Caulker (! ) and also bottling the EL final (arguably), we've improved by leaps and bounds with the same players that no one had any faith in any more. He got us playing attacking football instead of the turgid crap that was being served to us before. We reached two finals, dumping out teams like United and Dortmund on our way to Basel as an added bonus. This is all without having signed any of "his" kind of players and also without a preseason (which does wonders for fitness if done correctly) .

So have a little faith in the man. He didn't win two Bundesliga titles which is currently being dominated by Bayern for no reason. He didn't manage to help mould world beaters in Lewandowski, Hummels and Reus by being incompetent. All we have to do, as fans, is to give him a little time, and hell, support the bloody team! Is that so hard for you pessimists?

Now I've seen people slating our signings and touted signings for various reasons. One being that they aren't 'established stars' or 'marquee signings'. Were Mahrez, Vardy or Kante mega-money players? We all know the answer, so why not reserve your judgements before our new signings have even played a game for us?

When Klopp took over, he said he was going to make us believers again. Now, obviously I'm not saying we should all blindly follow him, but from what I've seen since he's come in, I feel confident in Klopp bringing us back to the top. He's not perfect and can certainly improve, but which coach has constantly won a bloody treble everywhere he goes?

Rant over.

Believable8 Unbelievable2

25 May 2016 19:37:54
Excellent Post, 100% correct in his very first interview when he got the job he said give me time, and let me work.
Just give him some breathing space.


25 May 2016 20:27:39
Great post zspecialone.
The signings Klopp has already made, although not 'big names', could turn out to be absolute diamonds.
He knows better than us what these players are about, and we have to trust his judgment and experience.


25 May 2016 20:52:22
"We must turn from doubters to believers"

The above is probably going to be more difficult than winning the premiership!

No one is not open to criticism but by the same token he has not used one player (except Caulker) that is his signing.

Lets see if we can get top 4 next year - good chance without European football then push on further the year after. It will take time - if it doesn't and he win's the league then the top statement will have firmly been put in place. until the first loss of the following season!


25 May 2016 22:07:45
Top post mate.


25 May 2016 22:46:02
Great post. Klopp didn't need to change me. I was already changed and over the moon when he joined. He gave an interview here in the states and said Liverpool was the only team he wanted to come to and his passion for has proven that.


25 May 2016 23:06:33
Brilliant post mate. Summed it up perfectly.

Can't wait for the new season!


26 May 2016 00:00:53
GREAT POST! Actually, our club has done the scope of the decade by getting Klopp to the helm. Klopp is definetly the man, let's see if FSG are the right owners to pull a PL title, not next year, but at least before I die ;-) . As it seems now the transfer-comitee are dancing with Klopp. that's a start. No more square pegs into round holes please. I don't care about fancy names or big fees, as long as the right talented player-types are coming in, and Klopp can use them.


25 May 2016 18:59:38
Liverpool have received over £800million in prize money since the inception of the Premier League. Only Manchester United and Arsenal are higher than the Reds
(Liverpool echo)

Believable3 Unbelievable1

25 May 2016 21:47:21
And we've spent it well.


25 May 2016 22:46:32
Exceptionally well, I might add, Max.


25 May 2016 23:34:47
Mostly on agent fees, signing on fees and Brendan's dentist.


25 May 2016 23:49:25
£800m in 25yrs, so that's only £32m a year. Peanuts 😂.


25 May 2016 17:53:06
Would hate to see couts go, maybe had a dip in form but he's an important player going forward. Finding the net with some crackers recently too!

Believable4 Unbelievable1

25 May 2016 19:21:49
I think he will still be at Liverpool next season.


25 May 2016 18:15:51
Brahimi in his final season in La Liga before switching to Porto finished top of the successful dribbles statistics chart ahead of Lionel Messi (164 to 143).

Believable3 Unbelievable4

25 May 2016 18:55:13
Fabricated story mate imo. No interest.


25 May 2016 20:17:21
He also scored a grand total of 3 goals in the season whereas Messi scored 28.


25 May 2016 20:53:19
I think Harry's had more dribbles than that over the last few days of posting ;o)


25 May 2016 22:48:16
Pointless stat. However, Brahimi is a very good player, one of the revelations of the last World Cup. I wouldn't mid him if Couts left as he's gotten better at Porto.


25 May 2016 15:30:30
Hi Eds

I like Coutihno but do you think it would affect the squad that much if he left? Personally I don't think he's that great or will be. He's more of a weaker version of Ozil.

Believable1 Unbelievable7

{Ed001's Note - I disagree he is not the same as Ozil. He grafts hard and shows good touch and skill, he just had a dip in form at the end of the season. I think we would miss him.}

25 May 2016 16:54:59
We need Coutinho to stay.!


25 May 2016 16:55:15
Why do people want to sell Coutinho, I have read it so many times on this site, it makes no sense. He is one of the few players in our team with genuine world class quality.

I have friends who support teams like Man u and Arsenal and they say Coutinho is our only good player, so they fear him and acknowledge how good he is. He has won games single-handedly for us, scored big goals. He has had bad games but who hasn't, I would have him in my team instead of Ozil.

He still has his best years to come, and gets to play with better plays in a system better suited to play Football under Klopp.

Crazy.


25 May 2016 17:06:37
I don't understand it either. He's our main scoring threat when Sturridge is not on the field, and about the only truly creative midfielder we have. He's only 23, and maybe he's about to finally come onto his own this coming season, and put the consistency issues behind him. I'd rather continue with him than take a chance on a new incoming midfielder, no matter how highly rated. Time and time again we see that players coming newly into the league don't necessarily find it that easy (Ozil and Firmino from recent memory) .


25 May 2016 17:10:45
People talk rubbish.

People have wanted to sell suarez, sturridge, all of our best players. Probably some people even wanted to jump on the bandwagon with benitez and try and force alonso out of the club.


25 May 2016 17:40:22
Suarez forced his way out with his constant antics or have you conveniently forgotten that.

While i was critical of couthnho in the final he is still one of our best players. If we want to move forward as a club we need to consolidate and not sell our better players every transfer window.

He needs to stay and fight for his place as competition rises if this algerian winger rumour is true thereby raising his levels even higher.

There are other more deserving candidates to be shown the door before coutinho is even considered.


25 May 2016 18:04:34
He will thrive with a better defence behind him and a couple of better players alongside him.

Keep him, he's a match winner.


25 May 2016 18:20:52
Absolute nonsense he's arguably our best player, and he is still very young. We would miss him big time, as we wouldn't sufficiently replace him IMO.


25 May 2016 18:34:07
Ive done a post before about how he will play better with better players around him. If you had milner and lallana alongside you i'm sure they'd manage to make david silva or iniesta struggle.


25 May 2016 20:18:29
Yes. Coutinho runs the show at LFC, and I cannot believe that some of our own fans want him gone.


25 May 2016 22:49:36
Those who want him gone are the same ones who wanted Studge gone asw EPL. Couts will not be for sale under Klopp, end of.


25 May 2016 17:35:13
Today Coutinho, Tomorrow Firmino People!


25 May 2016 13:16:13
I was going through a pair in the rumor section regarding Left back, Kman 92 and other posters.

What is wrong with some people if someone has an option against the manager's choice? I would be massively disappointed if the club only sign Chilwell this season. Am I wrong?

I have also been hearing a lot about Klopp's achievements in 8 months. What has he actually done? Correct me if I am talking bull, he took us to two cup finals and bottled both of them in the end and he has no one to blame.

Lost to a poor city who were struggling for match fitness entire game. We were ripped apart by Sevilla in the EL as well.
In between we sacrificed the league and this is the worst league position in 25 years or more. I love Klopp, but I am not going to blindly trust him. Simple

Apparently Rafa took a poor Chelsea to 3rd place finish and EL in 6 months time.

I was one among those behind Brendan Rodgers 4 years ago when he bought Borini, never questioned one of the most promising manager, what happened then is history and something I have leaned. I am not going to blindly trust anyone, let alone Klopp.

We all use this site to have our opinion and take as much as from the editors who share their knowledge.

If someone has an opinion kindly respect it, it's their view of watching the game, Their perception. Apologies if this post offended anyone. Nothing personal.

Believable5 Unbelievable13

25 May 2016 16:38:13
Im assuming this is Harry due to the name,
Look man, last season is gone, we need to move on and there is definitely no need to be pulling apart potential transfers until they've played and showed us what they are all about,
Chilwell is obviously highly rated and his attitude must be spot on if klopp likes him, also we don't know if he's an upgrade or not till we see what he can do,
Klopps had 8 months with a squad he's not even added to yet let's at least see what his judgement of players is about before we send another manager to his footballing grave,
Im sure before klopp signed Aubamayang amongst others that nobody had heard of them but look what they did, we're in the here and now buddy let's wait and see if things are different after the Euros before we start getting panic attacks.


25 May 2016 16:39:24
When you've watched games since his takeover, you can see the vast improvement. When Rodgers was in charge the entire team looked out of form apart from Coutinho. With Klopp in charge most of the team looks solid, the real poor players like Moreno have stood out as the clear weak areas of the team.

Also, to beat united, dortmund, and villareal to reach a European final is nothing to gawk at. We never performed in big games under Rodgers. I'll take an 8th place finish and two finals with Klopp over a 7th place finish and quarterfinal exits with Rodgers.

AND Klopp did this all with the team that Rodgers built. How you can not trust someone who built what he did in Dortmund is beyond me.

All of us fans are disappointed with an 8th place finish and no silverware, but Klopp has given us excitement and hope and I think that is where the faith in Klopp comes from.


25 May 2016 16:41:34
Rafa's chelsea team may have been a mess but they still had mata, oscar, hazard, lampard, terry, cole and cech. I'd say compared to that the only position we have better than that side is striker, and even then they all can't stop getting injured. As mess but a quality team.

I'm not excusing klopp for bottling finals because it did happen and he has to share some responsibility. However the fact that we even managed to get to 2 finals given where we were a few months ago, and some of the football we've played along the way, is amazing.

We have a long way to go but the fact is our squad simply is THAT bad. Don't mean to slate players but mignolet and moreno will probably go down as the two worst in their position in lfc history. Except from maybe calamity james. The forward players try but lack quality and the midfield doesn't score anywhere near enough goals. Think of the football and hopeless management of rodgers 8 months ago and it looked like all was lost. In comparison chelsea had just won the champions league and everything looked bright and rosy and nobody could ever understand why di matteo was sacked in the first place.


25 May 2016 16:42:58
Well what did you expect? Klopp to win the treble without signing any players and without a proper pre-season?

No need for so much negativity when we got one of the brightest and talented managers in the world. I haven't been as excited for the summer transfer window for a very very long time. I will 100% support any player Klopp brings. In terms of LB, I think Ben Chilwell is ready to start for us. Very very talented player. Has the potential to be world class player within 2 years. Just like Karius.


25 May 2016 16:43:46
It's alright kova, some people just can't accept people have varying opinions and sometimes like to attack them instead of respect a difference in opinion. Ed023 was very respectful in his responses and that's what this site is about not slating each other. All we want is the best for the club we support and honestly what do any of us really know. I agree with you though, Klopp cannot gain instant respect without doing anything, he's showed signs and I think he will come good but it seems people are brown nosing him far too much and it's really embarrassing.


25 May 2016 16:44:42
Fully support anyone who wants to question the manager or any player as long as they state why and that it makes sense.

Personally not a fan of the squad (in terms of balance) but think Klopp did very well to get to two finals. As for losing them, personally think it is down the players experience and mental strength.

Can say we should have beaten them but city have a team of players with numerous medals and experience in finals and Sevilla won their third successive EL title. They have an experience team which took Barcelona the distance in the following cup final.

Are entirely right to question him but just hope people give him time. Our squad is a mess in that it is far too big and have a lot of similar players. Think some hard decisions have to be made on a lot of players excluding the obvious players we need to move on. Added to that don't think there is much room for mistakes with bringing players in.

Think we will struggle for top 4 as don't see Chelsea or united being so poor next season, plus Spurs and Leicester have a very good group of players. Wouldn't mind Klopp getting in younger players and developing a team that can compete for years to come, just don't know if he will be given time.


25 May 2016 16:44:55
I think patience is the key Harry. He hasn't purchased anyone of he's own yet.

Hang tough.


25 May 2016 17:38:03
Aside from what has been said above, an important point being missed is that Klopp has galvanized the fan support behind him and the team to a much higher degree. I don't think there has been a manager who's been liked as much by the fans since Kenny Dalglish. Benitez was liked but he had far more detractors. Klopp not only lives and breathes football, but he is living and breathing Liverpool football and you can clearly see the connection between him and Anfield faithful during the games. Of course, he's made mistakes. But nothing even remotely close to sinking an entire season for an ex-champion (the London club shall remain unnamed, but the manager says he's kinda "special", LOL) . So, by all means, keep on disagreeing with him, but give the guy credit when credit is due. All of us regular posters have a tendency to look at all the fine details. But sometimes we need to take a few steps back and look with a bigger perspective at the bigger picture. The coming season is the crucial, telling one. Most of us found out about Rodgers' abilities (or lack of) the season after Suarez left and Rodgers could no longer hide behind Suarez's goals. It's the same with Klopp now. The cushion he has is the "he hasn't brought in his own players yet". Fair enough. This cushion will be out the window by the end of next season. Then I'm sure there will be far more unanimity between everyone about what Klopp is really like.


25 May 2016 17:42:42
Nothing wrong with opinions, but you say people should respect your opinion. Therefore you should respect someone elses opinion if they think yours is nonsense!


25 May 2016 18:15:05
Agree with John barnez.
With respect to Klopp's achievements, we could be writing this all day.
We score more goals
We create more chances
90% of the players are playing better
The fans have more belief (present company, Kova, excepted)
We're beating better teams - Man Utd, Cityx2, Chelsea, Dortmund, Leicester
We concede fewer from set pieces.

These are all headlines, there's a tremendous amount of work behind the headlines. He's basically changing the culture at LFC but it does all take time.

WRT Chilwell, it will be a risk to rely on him but then remember the impact Joe Gomez had 10 months ago and he was younger. I couldn't honestly put my faith in any left back available these days, they have basically forgotten the art of defence. If Chilwell has it in his locker he is young enough to mould. All these named left backs from foreign leagues seem incapable of defending so I would rather we didn't waste another 10-15 million on them.


25 May 2016 18:35:53
Ron, hector is apparently a very defensive left back, personally if that is the case i would take a 25 year old germany international and ask him to do a job than to buy young again, would also prefer to have smith or gomez as back up.


25 May 2016 23:50:40
Doubt he'll be available to us Woolback.


25 May 2016 17:10:35
Thanks a ton for the patience shown reading my post. I completely respect and acknowledge everyone's view. I have no issues with anyone who has a different view to the game or player.
Chilwell is very young, so young he might need time to settle. He might make numerous mistakes next season given his in experience and age. Soon people will start expressing their disappointment and abuses. So let's cut that bridge. We have our own Chilwell in Smith who has been handed a contract recently. All we need is an experienced LB in the place of Moreno.

Am I incorrect here?


25 May 2016 15:40:14
Hey Eds hope your all well, I wondered if we had shown any interest in Ghoulam from Napoli? I also wondered if you thought Moreno may be moved into midfield, I honestly believe he is better suited to this position.
Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - (a) No. (b) No.}

25 May 2016 15:07:17
Not necessarily about Liverpool but just wondered if any teams had enquired about Gabriel barbosa of santos I've been following him for a while now and looks like he could be the next big thing from Brazil and reminds me of Ronaldo.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes - there is a lit of interest in him - and there has been for a couple of years.}

25 May 2016 14:36:29
Greetings, Ed02. So, you've said that both Ibe and Markovic could be heading through the exit door this summer. Looks likely Canos will be, too.

With so many departures, do you see us signing a Right-Winger as well as the lefty?
I used the search and read your summary again. Only Töre seemed likely, but he's off to West Ham, right? Any other name of a RW that we're interested in?
Thanks a mil.

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{Ed002's Note - Clubs don't replace players who are on loan or who have been on loan.}

25 May 2016 15:07:21
True. Although that means we'll have zero right-wingers.
But I guess Milner and Lallana could be considered wide-right forwards. Sort of.


25 May 2016 14:07:34
I am from Huddersfield and occasionally head down to watch games with a friend of mine who's a season ticket holder. He goes to home and away games pretty much religiously.

When they first brought Chillwell in he mentioned a young lad they'd got on loan who was only young, but needed, as Davidson (the starting lb at the time) was shockingly bad.

He only played 8 games for Huddersfield before he was recalled, I saw him play twice, my friend 7 games and said he's the best player town have had talent wise in a very long time and is adamant that he will start for England later on in his career if he continues to be able to play and develop.

Going forward he was the driving force for them from what I saw. Good with the ball at his feet, can pick out a pass, likes to play one-twos, pacey and very, very direct. In terms of position, he still probably needs some work, however he's already got the intangibles you can't teach. He looks very, very promising.

Personally, if we brought him in I would be very happy and I'm sure it wouldn't take too long for his natural quality and ability to show through.

His style of play is for sure suited to the PL.

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25 May 2016 15:02:57
Tomsbakery, i have watched him a few times for Huddersfield too and as well as looking good going forward I always thought his positional sense when defending was very good, albeit not against premiership players. When he was recalled he left a big gap in the Huddersfield team that they weren't able to fill!
If he does come to us then i would be quietly confident that he can become a regular.
When watching him he used to remind me a bit of Finnan (that will please ED01).


25 May 2016 15:28:36
I agree with the Finnan comparison, which fairs well at such a young age.

The reason for me bringing up position as i maybe only saw him make 2/ 3 mistakes and they were by being slightly behind play, either playing opposing player (s) onside or due to bombing forward and therefore not being in a position to get back. However that being said, he looked a fantastic player for certain and with some tweaks and further higher level experience, I feel could be a real player wherever he ends up playing his football. Hopefully Liverpool.


25 May 2016 13:58:11
Morning Ed, Coutinho out Brahimi in, what are the chances? Certainly think Brahimi would be great buy with his pace and left foot. Are we looking at another case of deal done for Coutinho but not finalised until we sign replacement?

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{Ed002's Note - Measured how?

25 May 2016 15:09:14
Brahimi is right footed.


25 May 2016 15:57:52
Davey, so is coutinho.


25 May 2016 13:17:40
"According to Sportske Novosti, the 19-year-old midfielder is one of the club's top transfer targets this summer.

The Croatian news outlet claim Jurgen Klopp has called Coric to invite him to tour the club's facilities and discuss a move to Anfield. "

Surely even Klopp isn't that stupid?

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25 May 2016 14:33:33
The lad looks like an outstanding talent for his age.
And I firmly believe that if you're good enough, you're old enough. Look at the likes of Rashford .18 and in the Man U first team and now England squad.
If we don't snap Coric up. somebody else will.
Get him signed ASAP I say. while the price tag is relatively low.


25 May 2016 15:03:48
I wasn't talking about the quality of the player I was talking about the fact that apart Klopp phoned him and invited him to Melwood.

Might as well just invite the UEFA disciplinary along as well to personally deliver our transfer ban and ban from european competition.

Luckily, I think it is probably just tabloid bluster.


25 May 2016 15:59:05
Didnt clubs all over europe invite odengaarde to train with them?


25 May 2016 16:39:15
Ffs just because it's reported that way doesn't mean it's happened or happened that way. Klopp might have called him and he could've done so completely legally with permission from the other club.


25 May 2016 19:06:56
RedDawn, Divock origi went to arsenal, spurs and our training ground before he signed for anyone.


25 May 2016 13:31:54
As Liverpool fans, would you be pleased to see Mourinho go to Man Utd?
Personally I would not be too fussed would rather him there than Klopp were he still available.
Of course as a Liverpool fan I would say that!

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25 May 2016 14:15:43
I would have Klopp better football and more funny. Jose just boring football.


25 May 2016 14:26:50
I always thought Mourinho can be funny sometimes but his ego is too big and his football style is not fun to watch. I would hope he goes to Man Utd than to us. They are both unlikable (? ) so maybe they're a perfect match.


25 May 2016 15:58:46
Mourinho's track record in BPL seems to be first season success with established and experienced side, then slides, he falls out with people, then all falls apart. Considering the other lot are still rebuilding I'd agree with a few who have said he's not the right fit for them. Whatever I wouldn't expect him there in 2 years time.


25 May 2016 16:02:13
Would be fun to see mourinho, red nose and bobby charlton, ryan giggs and now Cantona discussing style of play and transfers on same table. First aiders needed for injuries by eyes poking, flying boots and kungfu kick.


25 May 2016 17:54:31
It's Mourinho's style that fails him these days. "Confrontational leadership". It might work for a couple of seasons but players soon get sick of it, sick of the mouthing off, sick of the bitching and sick of the "siege mentality".
There's only so long you can tell a team that everyone hates them before you get fed up of hearing it.
Man Utd are welcome to him 😄.


25 May 2016 12:00:44
ed001, would love to hear your thoughts on this, are you as concerned as I am that Liverpool fc as a club is gaining a reputation for chocking at the vital times, since 2006 we have been to 6 finals yet only won 1, add to that our title collapse 2 years ago a horrible pattern is emerging.

I really thought with everything on offer Wednesday, the lads wouldn't let us down, i was and remain gutted by the turn of events in basel, this is not a anti klopp post either as i was always going to be prepared to give him time i just hope we can aquire players who hate losing and are prepared to go the extra mile when things are not going well, i was bought up on a Liverpool side who always seem to find a way to get the job done.

i do hope we can shed this reputation in the months to come, because if we continue this trend, it will always be a case of what might have been, less talk, more action from the players could be a good way to start imo. By the way i don't think we have a god given right to win things just because we are Liverpool, but i do expect a certain standard when chances off winning things present themselves.

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{Ed001's Note - not really a reputation, we have just bought badly, players with no steel. Rodgers, in particular, just wanted players that would do as he told them and hang on his every word. Those kind of players that can be moulded and do not stand up and argue with him if they disagree.

That is fine up to a point, but you need strong characters in a dressing room, those kind of people will argue with you and disagree with you. You need those people who will argue, as those are the kind of people who step up when things are turning against you.

We saw again and again under Rodgers how the players just turned and looked to the sidelines whenever things went wrong. What we need is players who look to each other and respond by trying harder and running faster when they are struggling.}

25 May 2016 14:29:00
I believe Henderson is that kind of character for us Ed.


25 May 2016 15:32:40
As much as I hate United, we need characters like Roy Keane, a proper, full-blooded leader who would never take a loss under any circumstances.


25 May 2016 16:02:41
That was exactly what I thought about Europa league collapse, the players who went missing Lallana et al were Rodgers players no steel no balls. I believe Klopp will sign players with character and a will to win (like himself) . That winning mentality is the vital missing ingredient for us to progress.


25 May 2016 13:50:29
Correct, Ed. This why the old heads are needed because they are the extension for the manager on the pitch. When Klopp was at BVB, he had the great young players he moulded BUT he also had experienced internationals like Kehl, Dede, Wiedenfeller and the lot, who told the hard truths when needed. Those are the types we need and had we had them vs Sevilla or City, we would have won both finals. "A young man cannot see standing up what an old man can see sitting down" - French proverb.


{Ed001's Note - nice proverb that. Experience can be vital, Leicester had it in spades, Spurs didn't and it told in the end when it mattered.}

25 May 2016 14:41:50
Could not agree more with you here Ed. We have too many passengers in the team, no doubt with quality, but that steel you mention is missing.

From the current team Henderson shows it on the pitch, however even though I think he is one of our best players, I doubt he is the strong character/ leader in the dressing room. No one in the current team portrays that level of authority required to really take charge. Flanagan shows steel on the pitch, Sakho again strong character wouldn't strike him as a leader. Can seems vocal on the pitch, hopefully he can at some point take that role.

Suarez had it in abundance, which in a certain sense carried the whole team forward.


{Ed001's Note - much as I don't like Suarez for the stupid things he did, you are damn right that he offered real drive and determination on the pitch. That makes others graft harder to match it.}

25 May 2016 16:59:22
Roy keane may have been 'peter pan' to quote ferguson but the fact is he stood up to the manager and paid the price. He believed the standards were slipping and spoke out and got sold. You can debate whether that was right or wrong or whether ferguson was right or wrong but the man was a born winner who stood up to the most fierce man in management because he believed he was right. While he lost his position at the club as a result, you could argue he was proven right in the long run as ferguson left an ageing, declining squad for his successor.


25 May 2016 12:19:36
if coutinho where to leave who would be your preferred choice to replace him?

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25 May 2016 13:47:03
Firmino has scored 11 goals and nine assist in his first season I think we have it covered how many did Luis Suarez score in his first season can't of been much better? the money could go to strengthen the rest of the squad in my opinion anyways.


25 May 2016 13:50:48
Yacine Brahimi.


25 May 2016 14:12:03
Loose one of your better players and don't replace them .

Hmmmm haven't we been there before Jamesy.


25 May 2016 16:20:17
We have ja but firmino can fill his boots easily for his first season in EPL you can't say it he doesn't look like he's capable he actually looks for a pass before shooting I love couthino but he's went completely off the boil since neymar has opened his mouth about Barcelona he doesn't seem his normal self fluffing passes every game shooting a mile off target he seems to go off the boil when he gets a call up for the national team like he doesn't want to get injured or he doesn't want to over fatigue himself I dunno with him like o said I love him the guy.


25 May 2016 12:09:41
Hey eds, just a quick question on a player. I remember earlier in the season, ed02 mentioned that we had scouts at some of the Porto games and suggested that it may have been to watch Rubén neves. Just wondering if our interest is gone and if so is anyone else in for him this summer or does he look like staying at Porto for now?

He is one youngster that I think would be a quality addition to the centre of midfield. Already a top quality player, even though he would cost a fortune.

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{Ed002's Note - Don't hold your breath about a move to Liverpool.}

25 May 2016 12:47:48
Would you say the same for Goetze, ed?


{Ed002's Note - I have explained over and over about Goetze.}

25 May 2016 09:55:15
Hi Ed's apparently we will pay Yacine Berhami release clause from Porto, any truth?

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25 May 2016 14:00:24
Won`t believe it till it happens. Very good player, tho.


25 May 2016 12:42:48
If he comes then coutinjo is off.


24 May 2016 20:53:20
Ed002, do you know of any interest in Benteke?

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing specificnright now.}

25 May 2016 12:09:28
This will be my last ever gossip, as my source has left the club.

There is a chance that Moreno will leave.

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{Ed023's Note - Source = Rossiter?}

25 May 2016 12:29:56
Nah Rossiter the Gossiper is not my messenger haha.


25 May 2016 12:30:00
Enrique I reckon ;) .


25 May 2016 12:49:50
How would Enrique know? He was always on holidays.


25 May 2016 13:29:43
The source is Moreno clearly ;)


25 May 2016 14:30:22
Maybe the fitness coach who has left?


25 May 2016 22:29:31
Adi ward?


26 May 2016 02:26:44
The source is the Anfield cat.


25 May 2016 00:16:43
I read this and thought that I'd share as it is a look of what a European Super League would do. (if it had started in 1998)

goo.gl/nRKbJA

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25 May 2016 11:38:45
MKscouser- oh how I hope your right on our transfers. I noticed in a post earlier you mentioned Chilwell, Curic and Sule. God I hope your right. Curic and Sule especially should be exciting to watch as they mature and grow under Klopp, both have massive potential. Let's just hope they materialise eh?!

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25 May 2016 11:18:03
Morning Eds,

I was just wondering if we were to go in for Dahoud, do you think the lack of European football will be an issue? Particularly as gladbach qualified for the champions league.

Cheers.

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{Ed023's Note - No idea, just have to wait and see}

25 May 2016 11:29:37
Cheers for the reply.
I think he would be a wonderful addition to the team, what I have seen of him he seems to have brilliant composure on the ball which can be a really calming influence on the rest of the team when we are required to see out games, something I think we have lacked since the departure of xabi. I also think he has great vision and passing ability that can be utilised further forward aswell. For me he is a much more promising talent than gotze. Fingers crossed kloop can work some magic.


25 May 2016 11:32:27
I think this rumoured interest in Coric is an indication that we've moved on from both Zielinski and Dahoud. All three are similar players in that they are creative midfielders who can carry the ball forward and start counter attack's. All 3 would also slot into midfield alongside Henderson and Can. Don't forget we have Grujic and Stewart as well.


25 May 2016 11:50:05
Yeah I think you may have a point there, coric does excite me a lot also, very gifted footballer. For me Dahoud would be number one but it's not as easy as that. I trust kloop completely he proved time and time again at Dortmund that he creates superstars.


25 May 2016 13:28:16
Maybe we are looking as coutinho is trying to get a big move for champions league.


25 May 2016 12:09:41
Dahoud is simply a wonderful footballer with grey first touch and superb vision. He has a good passing range as well. I just can't see Borussia selling 3 Midfilders in single window unless of course you pay a supper sum up front.
Fantastic player without a doubt.

Coric is young but just a different class, He would need time and proper development,


25 May 2016 09:25:17
Ed's. Just posted this as a reply and would be very interested in getting a debate on it.

The players Klopp bought in to Dortmund have had success and most have become better players under him. Kagawa, Lewdonoski, Hummels, Goetze. Aubameyang would be the stand out for me.
Looking at that and the improvements already made on a bloated squad. Firmino, Origi, Can and Lovren stand out at Liverpool. Do you invision a similar outcome eventually at Liverpool?
I don't expect every player we sign to be a superstar and some players will take time to adapt to the English game.

I hope us as fans will be patient with Klopp and the players he decides to bring in.

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25 May 2016 10:32:13
Of the 4 you mentioned, I think Origi and Can have the highest potential to become something special. Aside from footballing skills, what strikes me is their improving confidence and mental strength. I would add Grujic to the list of high hopes. We haven't seen him play yet, and he's still quite young, but once he fills out and toughens up, the sight of a 1.91 metre tall player in midfield (we haven't had that in a long long time), with clear ball handling skills and aerial ability, will be daunting for opposing players.


25 May 2016 10:52:02
Imagine our potential team in 5 years! (age)

Karius (27); Chilwell (24), Gomez (23), Sule (24), Flanagan (27); Can (27), Grujic (25), Coric (25); Ojo (23), Origi (25), Ibe (25)

Could be one hell of a team!


25 May 2016 11:50:01
I don't want to be negative but, in my opinion, I have seen nothing to suggest Can is going to become this world-beating midfielder. He has a big stature so true can impose himself physically on games however, after 2 seasons, he still looks poor on the ball, poor with his distribution and very bad with his positional sense. I don't see him as a long term answer and, out of the current squad, would have him behind Hendo, Lucas and Stewart in the pecking order. What has he done that makes fellow reds think he is going to be special? I'm not having a go at anyone's opinion here, just curious what they see in the lad as I have clearly missed it.


25 May 2016 12:21:34
I can see Klopp potentially creating superstars out of at least two of Origi, Ojo, Grujic, Can, Firmino or Coutinho. All of these have a bit of X factor IMO, with possibly Matip and Karius in there too but haven't seen them myself.

In response to Seano, Can has definitely suffered when exposed at base of midfield and had his poorer games, but when alongside an experienced head like Hendo he's dominated with his strength, passing, ability to break up play. Villareal second leg was a great example where he set the tone for the match. I can personally see experience and coaching turning him into something really special.


25 May 2016 12:41:35
Can is good but is still very raw despite what people say.

He needs to improve his intelligence, his passing range, and offer more in terms of goals and assits going forward. He uses his physique and confidence to great effect sometimes. Also needs to cut out the stupid challenges.


25 May 2016 13:01:31
Can is really really lucky to get to learn at the cost of Liverpool.

Just imagine if another player had got the same number of opportunities.

I am not bashing him, but there must have been a reason why Bayern Munich or Leverkusen passed on the chance to sign him.

Good natural hair style though. Like it a lot.


25 May 2016 13:21:23
i can see the good things Can brings to the game, and i have to disagree that he has no positional sense or he can do other things, all i know is he has all the atributed to become a top player for us, just because he is not ready made does not mean he is not good, some of his passing is very good and he has a few assists, our players are thought not to dive into tackles so you won't see him doing that, also that's why moreno and clyne don't dive into tackles to win the ball its not the liverpool way next season i think we will see Can become even better with the new signings we have got to protect the defence, i also think a lot of players started to tire at the end of the season because of the amount of games we played and they were not used to playing that many games in a season.


25 May 2016 13:26:06
MK Scouser. By the time they come good teams will be fighting for 2 or 3 of the above mentioned's signatures. This how low we have gone.


25 May 2016 14:36:10
Seano. I just think under the right management and the belief from the coaching team and the players around him he's going to become very good. The individual status of, Lampard, Scholes, Pirlo, Viera, Keane or Gerrard won't be reached by him. Lucas hasn't reached any of their standards and he is still a great servant for our club. He was shocking when he first arrived.


25 May 2016 12:26:05
Can brings up his physicality which helps him to get past players and shrug them. His distribution is poor and often leave space behind them ( lack of brains when to go forward and when to sit back ) People doesn't understand discipline and what a Midfileder should be . Alonso and Gerrard are the best examples for both cases. Brilliant players on their positions equally poor when played out of their positions.

Our manager thinks Can is the one to sit deep.


25 May 2016 08:51:46
I for one am very excited at the young players we seem to have an interest in. I know we need top class players with the quality to usurp what we allready have. But finishing 8th with no Europe makes that extremely hard, extremely expensive and a bit unrealistic. Karius matip grujic. Are great business in my eyes. And I'd love to add Dahoud, coric, chilwell and Sule. We would have a squad full of top class potential that Klopp could coach and get them playing his way and improving all together. I know we all want success now but I think this could potentially build us something very special moving forward. As long as we can keep hold of them when they start to shine. Ever hopeful.

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25 May 2016 09:13:47
Great post mate. Not seen anything of Coric but he sounds like a real talent.

Would love to land Sule, Chilwell and Dahoud though!


25 May 2016 10:02:03
Top post Willis, couldn't agree more. I believe in what Klopp is trying to build, and not all of us need instant gratification!


25 May 2016 11:25:39
Exactly Willis. Trying to get this through to some fans is a mission impossible. Anyone that knows anything of Klopp and his time in Dortmund would know that Klopp built his team with potential primarily kids, African nation players or players from eastern block countries where players often go under the radar. Only when Dortmund where in regular CL did he top his team up with the likes of Mkhitaryan etc. Fans coming on saying ooh now we have Klopp we can attract quality haven't a clue and are going to be sadly disappointed. I for one am looking forward to seeing these youngsters come in, adapt and grow. It's not going to happen in one season and we're going to have to be patient. Yes I may get angry at disappointments along the way but that's my emotions getting the better of my judgement, that's all part of the excitement of it all. Let's enjoy the ride.


25 May 2016 09:09:58
All we need to do is to offload players who doesn't fit in. Benteke and Lallana for example. Get in one top class CDM ( No more U19's ) in that department ( Stewart would cover him up through out the season. A brilliant wide player ( completely different to Coutinho and Firmino ) has pace and trickery also scores goals.


25 May 2016 12:12:33
I don`t get how you can see Lallana doesn't fit in he ain`t going anywhere Klopp loves him.


25 May 2016 08:18:03
I see pako has been given the Valencia job on a permanent basis. As a former red I wish him all the best!
Hes had nothing but success so far in his managerial career but this is a big step up let's hope he takes it. Who knows we could want him back here one day, the last manager we poached from Valencia didn't do to bad 😉.

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25 May 2016 08:42:52
Yeah I hope he does well too.


25 May 2016 08:11:57
Hello, how does everyone on the site use this site?

I just use my iPhone and scroll down looking at posts etc, see if there have been any new contributions to my posts or other threads I have been interested in. Typically in the morning, lunch and evenings ha ha evading the wife moaning about always being in my phone!

I know there is a link to view these posts under my profile, but I usually don't bother unless it is something I want to refresh my memory on from a previous discussion.

The reason I ask is that I had a response or two to my post this morning really quickly and was surprised how quick. I guess it's the morning and people are just catching up on LFC news before the day ahead, like me :-)

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25 May 2016 08:53:06
I'm off work for an operation mate so you'll all have to put up with me until next Monday!


{Ed023's Note - Good luck with your operation and I hope your recovery is quick}

25 May 2016 09:16:25
Good luck with your operation Adam.

Would be able to bear you more though if you keep your latest kim photo while clicked hiding in her bathroom as your avatar.


25 May 2016 09:17:28
Cheers Ed. It was meant to be Monday morning but it's been put back to 2pm this afternoon. It's a fairly simple operation. I'm just having a bone tumour removed from my hand, a bone graft from my wrist to replace the bit they're taking out, and then they are going to send it for a biopsy just to make sure it's benign. They are almost certain it is though. Should have a cool scar to show the grandkids though. I'll tell them I got in a fight with a Tiger and won!


{Ed023's Note - If you're confident about things then that's enough for me buddy - get well soon and I hope the recovery doesn't prevent you from posting on here ;). Come on, tell them it was two tigers lol}

25 May 2016 11:06:04
Best of luck for the op mate x.


25 May 2016 11:21:53
MK - missing an opportunity here. Show them Jurassic park and tell them it was based on you.


25 May 2016 12:48:49
Ha ha that explains the quick response. As others have said good luck with the operation wish you a quick recovery.


25 May 2016 14:28:06
MK Raptor Wrangler!


25 May 2016 08:07:03
Morning reds,

I have a question for you.
In the likely scenario that Moreno moves on and chilwell is signed.

Would you rather A. ) we signed another more experienced left back?
Or B. ) chilwell, Gomez, smith and flannaghan when he is not covering RB fight for the spot?

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25 May 2016 08:17:45
I'd be happy for chilwell to come and another experienced first tramer if the view is that moreno is being sold.


25 May 2016 08:19:22
I will be satisfied with just one. I'll choose B.


25 May 2016 08:24:46
If Moreno is moved out then definitely option A, with another experienced signing. Jonas Hector sounds just about right. However, B is not so bad considering that both Clyne and/ or Flanaghan can cover the left back position if needed. I would actually start Flanaghan on the left before easing Chilwell in, but that leaves the dilemma of a backup for Clyne.


25 May 2016 09:21:38
I really don't see chilwell coming to us to play second fiddle? If that's the case why not stay with the new league winners and have a chance to play champions league etc! I can't see Moreno leaving either, why would we sell a player that publicly messed up in the final and his value will be low. The lad has potential and is young, why not let them fight it out to claim the lb spot for years to come? Would be a breath of fresh air having 2 top talents fighting it out over what's been our problem position for a long time.


25 May 2016 10:21:16
I like Chilwell a lot and fully believe could slot straight in as our first choice left back. I know people will say he couldn't get in at Leicester but he was up against the best lb (this season) in the league. Remember Sturridge / Coutinho couldn't get a game for their sides before coming, are they bad players? Have faith in this lad, he has bags of ability and is going to be top drawer, whether that be at us or elsewhere.


25 May 2016 09:13:38
There has been no indications yet from the manager on Moreno getting sold. So chill. He isn't moving out. We have handed Smith a new contract and he needs to play . If Chilwell comes in then that would be out Quota on the LB unless someone offer us a decent money on Moreno and Klopp decides to sell him which is not the case now.

We will have 3 LB for the upcoming seasons in all probability.
1. Moreno
2. Smith
3. Chilwell.


25 May 2016 11:53:35
I'd let Smith try and compete for the 1st team position with Chilwell and try and improve his game. The lad looks willing and has shown promise when given a chance. I'm not saying Smith is an incredible left-back at the moment just that he has shown enough to be given more chances - buying 2 left-backs seems overkill and a waste of funds when we have Smith who could, with some work, turn out to be good cover (or even force his way into the team as a starter) - has he done much wrong not to be given the chance?


25 May 2016 07:19:59
So Karius has the number 1 jersey. Who had the number 1 jersey last year, anyone know?
I am sure there is nothing to read into this but I am going to anyway!

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25 May 2016 07:29:14
I don't think anybody did? Our last number 1 was Brad Jones 2 seasons ago.


25 May 2016 07:59:07
The last regular starter who held the No 1 jersey was Dudek. After him Cavelieri had it and then Brad Jones until summer 15.


25 May 2016 08:00:04
Ok cool thought so, know I could have googled this but thought it would be an opportunity to build up our hopes and discuss the fact we have a new number 1 :-)


25 May 2016 08:02:48
We didn't have one. Clyne was 2. Mings was 22, Bogdan was in the 30's and Ward in the 50's.

It's been a long time since LFC had a first team keeper who was number 1, not that it means anything but it is interesting.


25 May 2016 08:47:26
The last regular goalkeeper to wear the number 1 shirt was David James. Kirkland was 22. Dudek was 13 if memory serves me right?
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Migs is (? )

Jones and Cavaleri both had the number one but we're not 1st team regulars.


25 May 2016 10:33:15
Dudek was 13 until westerveld left then became 1.


25 May 2016 11:26:22
Stand corrected. Cheers bud.


25 May 2016 07:16:53
See Victor Fischer of Ajax and one time heavy link to us is off to Middlesbrough for £3.5m. With Lyon winger Ghezzel, another link off to Sunderland for similar, due to last year of contract. This had me thinking about Ayew at Swansea, another massive link to us but never signed or entertained.

We look at loads of players and agents love to feed press. Maybe Gotze was just that, looked at but never really had the right to say he turned down Liverpool.

I'm sure 9/ 10 times the players we sign are the only player in that position we actually made efforts for. I doubt looking at the three 'names' Klopp has signed so far he goes for well known stars. Maybe it's a dressing room atmosphere like Leicester as well as right for the job he looks for. Gotze seems like neither of those.

Anyone thinking we missed out or he turned us down should rethink.

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25 May 2016 07:46:48
Good signing for Middlesborough. Will he play ahead of the world class Stewart Downing though? ;)


25 May 2016 13:18:08
If Fischer comes in with his act together he could be the one this season everyone is wondering why didn't we buy them. Especially as over the last 2-3 years he's been linked with almost every club in Europe! Only flashes of excellence is about all he's managed in his career so far but so had payet and Fischer is much younger! Seems a good signing for boro though!


25 May 2016 07:10:06
Hi

Interesting season ahead if we only look at these names

1. Jürgen Klopp
2. Pep Guardiola
3 Jose Mourinho
4. Mauricio Pochettino
5. Claudio Ranieri
6. Arsene Wenger
7. Slaven Bilić
8. Antonio Conte

What a season ahead!

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25 May 2016 07:28:28
Some serious heavy hitters in that list.


25 May 2016 07:48:04
Bacon you really need to quit drinking buddy. These bar fights aren't doing you any good. Who does hit the hardest just out of interest though? My money is on Klopp or Bilic!


25 May 2016 08:00:24
Hoping they finish in that order too.


25 May 2016 08:02:00
Its a shame rafa didn't keep Newcastle up otherwise u could add him to the list.


25 May 2016 08:05:22
Id say bilic tbh them eastward countries can take a hit too. The italians and posh be useless klopp would be accurite and fast like all germans and jose 10/ 1 on to fight dirty. Only man to put it up to bilic is roy keane bita irish spirit 😝.


25 May 2016 08:29:42
I have my doubts about Guardiola doing so well in his first season. He has a complete rebuilding job to do. He should have a talk with his buddy Klopp about the surprises, learning and setbacks that are all possible.


25 May 2016 08:58:48
Tony Pulis
Sam Alladyce
Mark Hughes

lmfao.


25 May 2016 06:52:19
Hi Eds
Once again can I commend you all on a great site the vast majority of the time you are spot on with your predictions not like some of the other Mickey Mouse sites.
Anyway my question is this do you think the funds are there and will be made available to Klopp knowing the clubs current financial situation or will his buying power be solely driven by what money he can bring in from outgoing players . Do you expect Klopp to make any possible marquee signings, who do you think will be sold who will be kept and more importantly who do you think we will buy .
Cheers Notsozippy.

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{Ed001's Note - there are funds there, marquee signings are something that depends on the point of view, the other questions are far too ambigous, both will change as other moves are made. There are very few players that are not available for transfer in our current squad, and our signings will depend largely on who does move out, other than a left back, which looks like being Chilwell (almost certainly) and possibly another more experienced one.}

25 May 2016 10:05:10
This site may not be Mickey Mouse, but it did used to have Disney, or is he still lurking with his fellow devils?!


25 May 2016 06:40:26
Hi EDS,
I just don't get all this talk about LALANA really improving under KLOPP
all he' s done is run around a bit which everyone would do when a new manager comes in, his end product is shocking, in the 2 cup finals he was anonymous, he would be the first out the door for me closely followed by .
COUTINHO but that's for another day, another myth.

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25 May 2016 07:32:38
Before Mignolet? Seriously?


25 May 2016 07:38:17
Okay mate.


25 May 2016 08:09:32
I'm a big fan of Lallana. Any player who has quality but still works hard is worthy of respect.

My only issue with him is that I don't think he is the required quality for us to step up to the next level. I wouldn't even have him in my top 8 list of 1st team squad players that need replacing.

Bogdan, Mignolet, Moreno, Skrtel, Sakho (due to ban), Allen, Milner (centre mid), Benteke etc all need replacing before we even look at Lallana as a primary issue with the squad.

Yes, he isn't top quality. But he isn't anywhere near as damning to our play as you are making out.

As for Coutinho, I have my gripes with him. He needs competition (hopefully Rafa Silva) so that he will look to develop his game into being more than just a 25 yard screamer every 3 games. He has undoubted talent though and again, clearly isn't one of the first players that needs to get the boot. He is still only 23. Even at his current level he is one of the few players in our squad who you would fancy to turn a game on it's head with a goal out of nothing. In fact the only other player who can is Sturridge. If either Couts or Danny leave it will be because they get better offers from elsewhere, not because we will actively look to push them out the door.

Where do these guys come from?


25 May 2016 10:20:01
I think if Coutinho can score every 3 games, that's not too bad for a midfielder. So I am not sure why you think scoring 25 years goals every 3 games is a not a good output from him. He does work hard, he can find a defence splitting pass.


25 May 2016 10:42:00
Iconocred you missed the point on Coutinho. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. It is the other 269 minutes of the 3 games that he goes missing in that is his problem. You get that with young players though. And as you say, he still works hard. He just needs to improve his consistency and overall game play so that if he isn't scoring he is still having a positive influence. He's a cracking young player who I'd be loathe to lose. Looks like we might though.


25 May 2016 06:49:08
I have never been a fan of Lallana. He runs a lot and that's all he does in my eyes. Maybe Klopp likes players who runs a lot Miner for example. His stats is so poor that the club is actually looking at Gotze of another AM.


24 May 2016 23:52:00
Anybody know if Ken Aguero is still playing?

Sorry to bring it up guys. but havnt been on the page in a while and it always makes me laugh when I think about those posts. The lighter side to some dark times under crappy ownership and a loss of direction at our football club.
Thankfully times have changed.
Forgot what a great page this is. thanks and well done to all who run it and contribute.

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25 May 2016 09:23:28
Last I heard kenny was failing yet another medical in a Siberian club. He never got over failing our medical, he was seen at mellwood at least 16 times that season.


24 May 2016 23:54:13
I don't now if anyone agrees with me but I think we're ok up top with origi. ings and sturridge plus firmino who can play there. no10s with coutinho and firminio&lallana. is ample. I think we desperate for someone with pace to burn like Marco rues ( perfect signing) . New left back (hector would do) and a defensive midfielder ( kante) would do also lol our keeper is sorted now thank god. With these additions we won't be far off trust me.

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25 May 2016 00:18:46
Couldn't agree more with you, if only we could get those signings though, that's the problem.


25 May 2016 01:03:33
A wide player with pace, skill and someone who is effective and has been improving over the past two seasons is Karim Bellarabi. There is no chance of someone like Reus, but we have scouted Bellarabi, and he would be an excellent addition to the squad IMO.


25 May 2016 01:33:13
just sign the right players to play that role tho. the names help our insecurities tho I get that!


25 May 2016 08:11:54
Its Funny, We have a Wide player who has pace to burn and absolute sublime skill in Lazar Markovic such a shame we messed him around I really do hope Klopp can convince him to stay because he is going to be world class.


25 May 2016 08:23:30
I agree with the real AG bellarabi has been quite underrated, haven't heard much noise about him, I won't if there is any interest in him.

As for the original post I would agree also. I think striker would only be a concern if Sturridge where to get injured again or possibly even sold (with the obvious departures of benteke, Sinclair and yesil) then and only then should we look at a striker. As for wingers/ forwards I was actually liking our interest in volland I think he's been an awesome player for 2 or 3 seasons now in the bundesliga and now that he has gone to Leverkusen maybe we should show interest in bellarabi. I think one other forward would do us with the number 10s we have plus markovic and maybe ojo (would like ojo and ibe to go out on loans personally) I think we are good in the attacking positions. We definitely need a midfielder, I think this is where we should cut out the young signings with potential and get someone who is at the top of their game now, hendo and can can learn a lot from an experienced midfielder. It's probably our most important position after GK ad we are in desperate need of some real quality there. Along with that a left back and possibly a centre back depending on departures, should be that. That would be 7 - 8 signings plus a lot of outgoings. I would say that's about right.


 
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