Liverpool Banter Archive May 25 2017

25 May 2017 22:22:39
Just putting it out their would anyone take Gael clichy on a free transfer?

25 May 2017 22:56:12
Hell no! Awful player.

25 May 2017 23:03:04
The idea of buying Clichy doesn't really excite me, but I do think he'd be an upgrade on what we currently have. He's 31, so it would only be a short-term fix. But if the plan was to slowly phase him out and Sessegnon in over the next season or so, maybe that's something that would work.

He's probably better than Andrew Robertson, who seems the most likely alternative at this stage. Ideally, I'd like to see us get someone better than both of them.

25 May 2017 23:29:11
No thanks. Clichy is decidedly average and cannot even push a very average defender in Kolarov.

26 May 2017 03:17:26
Clichy was an average player even during his prime. Do you really want Klopp wasting money on him when he is entering the 'pensioner' stage of his career? As the Eds have constantly reminded us, the plan is to sign Sessegnon and loan him back for a season, and and sign a senior LB to hold fort for the next couple of seasons till Sessegnon is ready to be our first choice LB. So its going to be Sessegnon plus someone like Mendy or Bertrand.
Don't need any of City's washed up rejects.

26 May 2017 09:14:33
No thanks, lazy money grubber, not good enough for city why is he good enough for a champions league side. Bertrand, sessegnon would be ideal combo for me.

26 May 2017 17:36:44
Clichy? Thanks but I'll pass on a has-been.

25 May 2017 16:50:41
Interestingly Dejan Lovren has made it into the Sky Sports Fantasy Football team of the season. Make of that what you will.

25 May 2017 17:26:32
Must have got points for assists against and inability to deal with set plays. Incredible.

25 May 2017 17:31:02
Great achievement, what a defender. Solid as rock and most definitely worth his £100k a week.

25 May 2017 18:05:02
Just to clarify I'm clearly being sarcastic.

25 May 2017 18:59:54
Let this be a lesson to anyone who throws stats about.

Stats are a load of plums.

25 May 2017 19:25:37
He actually got 9th best centre half in Europe according to the echo on 17 may.

Crazy or what?

I think its mainly to do with minutes played.

25 May 2017 19:31:46
Sky sports.

25 May 2017 21:44:32
At least it's good for his potential transfer value if anyone wants him.

25 May 2017 22:46:27
It's because he's a decent centre half. unfortunately Matip is a liability who needs to raise his game.

25 May 2017 23:15:05
its stats like these that make us buy average players.

25 May 2017 23:53:52
You missed the Palace game then Weller?

26 May 2017 07:45:49
Oh the joy of reading all of our 'fans' slam all if our players. It must be delightful to play for lfc knowing that the fans hate you.

We just finished 4th in the league and I think that most people can see that it's our record against the relegation fodder that stopped us from doing better. If Mane, Lallana and Coutinho hadn't spent so much time injured who knows what could have happened.

Whatever happened to actually getting behind your team?

26 May 2017 11:45:08
Red Nick,

Its a little bit ironic that you call out our fans for their disrespect towards the players etc, and how clearly they read these things and it affects their attitude, which i do agree with on some levels.

Then in the following paragraph you go on to call any teams in the bottom half of the table 'relegation fodder', because why? they're not quite as good as some of our players? Are they not affected by comments like that as well? Is that cool because they're not 'Liverpool'? .

If you're going to wave the wand of justice mate, you have to be consistent.

25 May 2017 14:11:12
Regarding Milner
He does deserve a lot of credit. he's played out of position and he did it for the team and klopp
A true professional
He never came out and said I'm off etc.
He said he'll play anywhere for the team
Not heard that a lot for a good few years. old school
I'd like to thank him not constantly pick him out.

25 May 2017 15:09:08
Fair call - absolute professional and huge respect to him for sorting a position that was a big liability for us when he would have rather played elsewhere.

25 May 2017 15:17:16
Well said. and I totally agree. Milner is a model proffessional and always gives 100%. He's been a great asset to Liverpool Football Club since joining us.

25 May 2017 16:31:44
I hope he stays next season, good squad player that'll we need at times no doubt. Surprised he didn't win players player this season with his dazzling personality and interesting post match interviews 🤔.

25 May 2017 16:29:48
Great lad and a selfless pro who really cares about something much bigger than himself as in, the team. Bravo for your efforts, sir.

25 May 2017 17:51:22
He not only saved the team, but LFC "management" from a lot of embarrassment, too. What if Milner had decided he wouldn't play left-back? This happens fairly regularly when a player is told to do something he does not want to do. Can you imagine the uproar over not being able to find a competent left-back in this day and age, and being saddled with Moreno for an entire season? Would we still end up 4th? I don't mean to slate a gentleman who has moved on and left the organization, but seriously, this is Liverpool Football club! Ambitious teams have 2 players, sometimes 3, for each position and yet we ended up in a situation of having to rely on a right-footed midfielder playing in the left-back position for an entire season. I'm aware Alexander-Arnold is around but cameo appearances and brief flashes of brilliance does not an entire season make! There's obviously relief all around because Milner did an okay job. But I seriously hope the lesson has been learnt, and we don't continue such amateurish thinking and moves this summer.

25 May 2017 18:17:09
What I like about Milner is his honesty. One interview he said straight up, I don't like playing left back, but that's where klopp has asks me to play. Has played the most games surely? Has to stay next season if you ask me.

{Ed025's Note - good utility player benny..

25 May 2017 21:34:55
He's a good pro, an honest footballer and always can be relied upon to put a shift in. Never goes missing.

25 May 2017 11:35:54
with Manninger announcing his retirement this summer, i assume we are going to go for a similar kind of player as our 3rd choice rather than ward.

In the ed's opinion what should a 3rd goalkeepers qualities be, as usually it is a rarity that they will play so is it more their experience to bring to the squad than anything else?

to everyone, whoever comes in remember, we are liverpool, we support the team and the players through thick and thin.

Onwards and upwards, we march on!

{Ed002's Note - The third pick goalkeeper eith needs to be a youngster who plays regularly for the U23s or it needs to be someone like Manninger, Eduardo or Given etc. - someone who is experienced and useful enough to help the kids but not expected to play a regular part.}

25 May 2017 15:18:13
Given how unlikely it is the position will be required I would be fine to use Grabara as backup - he looks a very good keeper even if only 18 / 19 year old next season.

25 May 2017 17:39:13
I think there is a massive advantage to having an older keeper. They can serve almost as a dressing room father figure, but you ask Kane how important to his early development Brad Freidel was. Staying behind after training with him for hours to help him work on his shooting.

There is more to a squad than just having young talented players. Experience cannot be taught.

25 May 2017 19:02:21
Older keepers are good for making the brews and running and collecting the ball when it goes over the bar.

25 May 2017 10:26:23
Luan is set to sign a new, lucrative deal with Gremio, complete with a clause that will protect the club from European offers.

25 May 2017 11:56:21
If so he was clearly not Luan for us.

I'll get my coat.

25 May 2017 12:14:52
TBH I wasn't overly impressed with us signing Luan.
I'd much rather us go all out for Timo Werner. although I know it would be very difficult to tempt Leipzig to sell him.

25 May 2017 12:16:50
I think he's going to Guilherme another year Zeddicus. get mine whilst your there mate.

25 May 2017 16:51:11
I didn't think he was coming anyway nor was I convinced that he is what we need so not bothered at all.

25 May 2017 19:34:49
We'll just have to focus for another Luan.

26 May 2017 00:42:59
There are 1,133 players named Luan registered in the Brazil Football Confederation. (First and middle name included) . Better get started now with picking another one, if you want one before next season starts.

{Ed007's Note - Och I'm sure some on here could come up with 1,133 formations to accommodate each one.}

25 May 2017 09:29:16
Hi ed. Just reading the Echo (sigh) I no. Its saying that Gremio are saying there has been no contact or offer from Lfc for Luan and the speculation has led to the player getting an improved deal with clauses not allowing a sale to Europe based clubs. Unless i've got it wrong.

Is this a new development that will hamper our attempts now or does the situation with him remain as youve explained?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained over and over that Liverpool had not made an offer and that there could be nothing done without resolving his ownership issues. Read the post please.}

25 May 2017 09:26:06
Hi Eds, heard that Luan has agreed a new deal with his club. So we can forget him this summer and move on?

25 May 2017 10:03:03
I've also heard this.

But I don't really understand how the issue of 3rd party ownership etc works and perhaps this is a confusion over them trying to sort out those issues before he moves to Liverpool?

In any event, i will wait to hear from the Eds instead of the tabloids.