Liverpool Banter Archive January 26 2014

26 Jan 2014 23:29:32
LFC are signing 1 player and 1 player only because if they were in a rush to do so they would have bought salah if he was a must. all the team below us have done better signings than us. if Liverpool want top 4 why haven't they bought yet?. please EDS i'm begging you its running through my head like lol please just confirm if we are going to sign or not i'm begging you lmaoo. Manchester United signed MATA what a shocker!:0 below us if players want to go to a team down there then its obvs they would come to us. you look at lfc a couple of years ago we was the same as utd fell down then the difference is Manchester United bought mata and lfc signed no one. that's why lfc needed rebuilding. now if we take look at utd they going to creep back up on us again and suarez is going to leave. please just say if we going to sign a good player lol.

Like lol, I mean rofl, what we is gun do without a signing!?

27 Jan 2014 03:04:07
were a good, young and hungry team. have faith!

26 Jan 2014 22:52:44
Hi Eds,

As The Window Comes To A Close Are You Expecting Any First Team Arrivals If So How Many Can We Expect? Also Is There Anyone Leaving On Loan Or Permanent?

As Always Thanks

{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

26 Jan 2014 21:55:28
Why can't a billionaire owner buy Liverpool and we can buy our way too success like chelski, man city, PSG, etc

Coz none of them want to buy us lol

We had our chance when DIC came knocking, blame david moores the greedy prick

26 Jan 2014 22:17:27
Why be a sheep I think it shows more quality when u have a team that can compete against teams that throw millons upon millions at players the likes of chavs, city and don't bother mentioning that we've lost to both already this season because both where a joke by the referee.

The interesting thing is on these types of owners is people slate them saying they "buy the trophies" but if they owned the club who these persons support it would be a different story.money talks in our league no money means you have no chance of winning the league imo

Why can't you just support the team?

Hang on, let me go ask a few billionaires and I'll let you know what they say.

Is it turnip season.

I remember there was a Chinese billionaire that the media had linked to buying us. Kenny Huang, I think. But FSG was chosen by a board. I don't know if it was just made up stuff from the media or not though.

{Ed002's Note - Try the search function or the archives where I gave you the low-down on Kenning - around August/September 2010.}

Shallow beyond words!

I'd rather take 5-10 years to earn a premier league title than take 1 year to buy one

I agree with .z. I'm afraid, you can't win this league anymore unless you are loaded. Yeah we have spent but we have spent badly and when we have bought it's spread out over a few seasons so when we buy a player we need we lose another key player to another club. It's nice to think we. Oils do it with our mix of experience and youth but as soon as a competitor can see that we are dangerous they just go out and spend a massive amount of cash on even better players.

Rather than DIC or foreign owner I think barcelona model of fan ownership with some sort of democratic element would be a far more progressive way to take the club. The best parting gift fsg could give the club whenever they decide to move in would be to leave the club in the hands of the fans

I'd have no prob with a billionaire putting massive dough into us as long as they earned it the right way(unlike the city guy taksin sinuwatra). The days of local owners taking on local owners like the moores families (LFC & EFC) and bob lord of Burnley are long gone. Cheeses and city were nowhere before investment and would still be without it. I was brought up on constant success with the reds, my sons (22&19) don't know what it's like to win the league, ****, that was hard to write!
Ruthless, spot on lad, soft rubbish moores blew it with DIC, I read a while back Shiek Mansour still wanted us and I am hoping he will have another go if FSG are just trying to make us more profitable (getting in more sponsors and letting go high earners etc) and may want to sell up if they realise they need more money than they thought and they have got, wishful thinking maybe!
Redwalt, we've been through 2 x 10 years plus and no signs of a title mate, that's more than enough for me, anyone got Shiek man sours number?

Sheik mansour owns man city it was sheik mohamed tht wanted to buy us and if I'm not mistaken his investment arm or DIC was hit badly by the financial crisis and was in bother and dubai was basically broke and had to b bailed out by the abu dhabi crowd so we would infact be in a worse position than when th two cowboys owned us

Cos we're a real football club not plastic, class and love you cannot buy.

Ed I just tired but couldn't find anything about Huang I know he was bad but maybe with your ed powers you could copy & paste it below? Also well done with the site improvements since September 1st 2010

{Ed002's Note - I have no way of doing that, sorry.}

Tirconnail, Maktoum I meant not Mansour. I know they did have a financial blip but don't think it was fatal to be honest, and NO owners would be as bad as the other 2 c*nts, have you read "The epic swindle"?, a must read for all reds, eyeopening stuff, David Moores has a lot to answer to mate.

{Ed001's Note - Dubai is far from skint right now, it is booming, I was out there just before Xmas and it is growing faster than it ever did before the recession hit it.}

Frankly Mr Shankly, ideally yes fan ownership would be the best option, very envious of Barca in that way but a few years back the Spirit of Shankly tried to raise the funds via a pledge of £5,000 per fan (and smaller pledges I think) but got nowhere near the level that was required unfortunately. They did also register the interest of fan ownership with FSG if they ever decide to sell and If I remember correctly asked for "first refusal" on any sale. Sorry I can't be more exact in the detail but that was the jist of it.

26 Jan 2014 21:20:51
Andre gomes rumours picking up any truth eds

The guy who bought him intends creating an auction with the starting price at €15m. File this one under Salah.

Then he can bloody well keep him away from us. We have enough young talent free of charge and don`t need any more.

26 Jan 2014 20:36:40
Id just like to offer some perspective amongst all the desperation for signings,
I too like many think we take far too long messing around when it comes to transfers and I know we don't always have the full facts as to whether we have actually put in a bid or not, I also think that as much as the owners are happy to say we can compete with any club financially that we just aren't in the same ball park with the clubs apparently above us cash wise, Whether that's due to previous overspending, previous debts, trying to stay within the forthcoming restrictions, transfer funds wasted or just bad management at all levels, the fact is we don't have the clout or the pull that clubs in the champions league have when it comes to wages and the attraction of superstardom in the biggest competitions, The bigger point for me is the fact that its totally a sellers market in January and for me the best thing all round would be to get rid of the transfer window altogether, i'm sure then clubs would be forced to at least try to implement their own youth players and give them a chance, instead of having to buy at over the top ridiculous prices for players that just are not worth the hassle or the money,
Id love us to sign a DM and a top class winger but the reality is the targets who would be best suited are overpriced or out of our reach, we'd all love a Shaqiri or another Suarez standard player but without them at this present time we're 4th in the league and in with a great chance of qualifying in the top spots, and no disrespect to the players but surely we're better off with no signings than another couple of Albertos or Aspas, too many signings for the future that never get a chance to shine have come and gone and if its not quality then it ain't quantity that we need, our own youth can provide quantity and some of those deserve a crack at it by now, ill grant you its not always easy when we have limited competitions to blood them in but unless we sign first eleven quality in the next week then these lads who are starting to get a look at the bench weekly should keep getting the chance to gain some experience too,
Chins up boys, we're doing ok, I know we're frustrated with the window but its not the end of our season regardless, we have the big boys to come to Anfield yet, let's make em hear what a real LFC cauldron sounds like and get behind the team, its still ours to lose yet!
YNWA JFT96

And we still have some player to come back from injury. i'm sure Allen can cover for lucas from the sounds of things enrique will be back soon, he is rarely beaten down the line.
young Flanagan back, hope he can find the great form he showed before he got injured, as ed1 said before its a great opportunity for our youth to take their chance.

Allen is no way good enough to cover for Lucas, you must be living in cloud cuckoo land.

Do you not remember last year when he did? He was swatted away like a fly because he isn't a very strong footballer and gave away too many free kicks in crucial areas.

To be fair to him, it is not his position.

To be fair, I think Allens been on the weights. His upper body looks bigger and he is looking stronger. Whilst I remain perplexed at FSGs transfer policy, I do believe Alln will do fine covering Lucas, Enrique and Sakho imminent returns and Flnno playing well. Plus it is an opportunity for the young guns to nine, although the best of the bunch in my opinion are still a bit too young.

I don't see it, just have visions of Allen doing really badly last year, square pegs in round holes, gym or not, he's just too weak to play that role.

26 Jan 2014 22:52:54
Allen can't tackle particularly, but at least he can position himself properly, distribute the ball dependably (if unspectacularly) and free up Gerrard further forward.

Best option we have to play DM at the moment.

Guv, w/ you all the way. We might need to to recalibrate our recuiting team because this transfer by commitee situation could b a case of too many cooks. We will be ok because we have SAS and all our injured players will b back for the last 10 games of the sason which will decide our fate come May. The big boys`ll be here and we, the true fans worldwide will make them wish they`d never shown up. RED TILL WE`RE ALL DEAD!

Post of the month for me, these are the same players that pushed Chelsea and City all the way, beat Man United, smashed Spurs, sit fourth in the table and I see no reason why they can't continue with more of the same with or without reinforcements.

I will be absolutely gutted if we miss out on fourth but without the backing from the fans the chances of that happening increase significantly. In truth only Man United have strengthened their starting xi, but probably not in the position they require the most. Spurs have to return to action with Thursday night football and we all know that isn't the easiest to deal with, all teams have their issues.

Let's not start getting our excuses in now, let's actually show some faith in the team we all love and support and do everything we can to push us on to Champions League footie by creating the cauldron The Guv speaks of.

Supporters lucky enough to go to Anfield and watch us in person do us proud and sing until your lungs pop.

Come on you REDS!

I know ozone we haven't seen eye to eye on here, but we can all agree that our players are going to need our help for the final push. people underestimated us in 2013 more of the same please in 2014
YNWA

Cheers RedHerring and the boys, positive comments much appreciated :)

26 Jan 2014 20:18:54
What are the odds that Brendan sorts out a loan deal for Salah next season. Everyone will be a winner. We bring the player on, the player plays for the side he wants to play for and the value of Chelsea's asset increases.

Perhaps Ed 002 could sort out the details during his summer hols?

Really? You are happy being a feeder club for the chavs?

A 'feeder club' is one that sells its best young players they have produced to another club.

Probably the wrong term, but really is that the height of our ambition? Cast off loans from that mob?

What should our ambition be? The PL is setup in many ways such that those with the most money will generally be the most successful. FFP in many ways makes this even more difficult to alter as you can't simply spend your way into the top any longer. We're 5th in turnover at ~40M behind those in 4th and there is pretty clear statistical correlation between revenue and final league placement (obviously there are exceptions, of course). Expecting anything other than perhaps 5th-6th with an outside chance at 4th is simply illogical.

If its the right loan deals that help you achieve your objective, then why not? There are top players at these 'rich' clubs who can't get a game, i'd rather buy(Sturridge) but if a loan helps short term, all good (Lukaku, Barry:) you won't hear many bluenoses complaining.

I think trying to get back into the top 4 is what we should be aiming for without going down the Everton route of taking loan players left right and centre .

All we would be doing by taking loan players is enabling them to continue to Hoover up talent and having to rely upon a player who would not be available for two crucial games makes no sense.

If the loan can`t get you over the hump, screw it. Give our talented youth players a chance in the interim.

26 Jan 2014 19:48:53
Eds as we get into the last week of the window do you expect a lot of transfer movement in general? Also what is Liverpool priority in this market a left sided forward or CDM to challenge Lucas?

{Ed002's Note - There will be movement, "a lot" is entirely subjective. The club came in to the window with two key targets as discussed. They will be continuing to look to improve the squad.}

Ed who were the two key targets I know Salah was one, could you say who was the other one? Cheers

{Ed002's Note - Hughes.}

Do you expect us to move for Hughes before the window shuts or one for the summer?

{Ed002's Note - I expected it in this window. Know I am not so sure.}

26 Jan 2014 22:54:18
Great just what we need another light weight over rated over priced bench warmer

26 Jan 2014 19:36:25
Mighty Red:

I didn't mean to be disrespectful, more playful with a little bit of frustration showing through.
I do apologize if it sounded disrespectful. FSG are saviors of our club but must now show a little intent. they spend big on their baseball ventures. So come on FSG your help is needed.

Actually the baseball spending is roughly the same and doesn't have any bearing on what happens at Anfield.

I do think we should have gone hell for leather for a good defensive minded CM as soon as Lucas was diagnosed rather than continue pursuing Salah.

LFC and the Red Sox are similar sizes in terms of revenue with a key difference being that the Red Sox are generally profitable whereas LFC is not so much.

FSG has the same policy with the Red Sox as Liverpool, they let Jacoby go because he wanted more than he was worth. He was loved in Boston.

And who won the baseball champioship (world series title) last year? The Red Sox owned by. FSG.

26 Jan 2014 19:11:42
Hi Eds,

Any truth in news of Ricardo Kishna?

Regards
RMP

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

26 Jan 2014 18:50:26
Eds.any update on injury front will Joe Allen and mo sahko make the derby ynwa

{Ed002's Note - Sakho is pretty much available according to the club - but they said nothing about Allen.}

Hope to God that Sakho plays ahead of Toure. Kelly right back and Flano left and we should be fine. Cissokho is a liability at left back.

I truly hope so.

26 Jan 2014 18:31:02
Eds, a lot of Italian websites are claiming Liverpool and Napoli are considering Inler - Agger swap. Any truth?
Cheers

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

26 Jan 2014 18:31:53
Pig of a draw! 2nd worst possible game, aside from city away!

Would have preferred city away to be honest

26 Jan 2014 18:07:14
Does anyone know if Sakho is available for selection tuesday night's derby?

I really hope he and Enrique are fit mate for Tuesday night as well as Allen in that centre holding slot. The bitters will have same joy if them 3 are missing.

26 Jan 2014 17:56:57
Thing that annoys me with us is that we know we now need a DCM player.Yet here we are less than a week to go in a season where with one bit of a push we could make CL for first time in years and we are nowhere near getting some quality in the team. Instead we are looking at 16 17 year old players for the future. I really am asking myself do FSG really want to take this club forward.

26 Jan 2014 17:50:25
As fans we can't help but check banter/rumours sites and speculate etc. But I have come to the conculsion that we are not in the same league as our 'rivals' if those rivals are:
ManU
ManC
Chelsea
Arsenal

Looking at the signings they make we are way below when it comes to spending money. Of course it's not all about spending money, No, but at the same time you can't race against a Ferrari when you drive a Renault, can you? We have not bought well, players in the £7-12M range are not going to set the PL on fire. We can't expect deals like Sturridge and Coutinho again, they don't grow on trees. FSG make noises about competing with 'rivals' but it is either:

1. They don't trust BR and his scouts, having WASTED funds on players who have not made any kind of impact. Aspas and Alberto (Respect) were meant to play big parts. This is more serious and I can't blame them not wanting to throw money away. In comparison with other clubs (except spurs, maybe) we are the worst buyers of players by far. We choose well but seem to have no idea of the price. The Salah deal is a terrible example of our people having no idea what they're talking about with other teams. let's see what comes in the rest of the window.
OR
2. They just want to spend what the club makes and not speculate to accumulate! Which isn't why they initially said and maybe they have changed their minds and might even sell and concentrate on Baseball which is their 'IMPORTANT' sport.
EITHER SCENARIO DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR LIVERPOOL. Without Top4 we will lose our best player, perhaps even others, so to avoid that we have to reinforce the squad. And please don't reply that we can't buy for the sake of buying. Look at our squad, if you can't see how thin on the ground we are, then I take it all back, we are in a great position to even win the league. (Sarcasm, please don't take seriously, Dah!)
Dont' know, may be fellow reds see things differently, your views are appreciated.

I think unless we get owners who back their man in the market, and I mean fully, then we will ever compete with those 4 teams regardless of who owns them.
We looked second best against Bournmouth to be honest for most of the game.

Agreed 100%

It would seem our management couldn't organize a pi. up in a brewery right now.

I personally think every year we don't make the champions league it exponentially gets harder because of urn amounts of money going to already rich clubs.

If you gave me a choice, I would take top four finish every time over an FA Cup win every time now.

The FA Cup has little relevance any more, the prestige has gone from it and economically the prize money is a pittance and it also means entry to one of the worst football competitions since either the Anglo Italian Cup or the Zenith Data Systems Cup.

In a way, I'm happy that we have drawn arsenal because at least when( notice I don't say IF)we get knocked out it's not to that smug ******* Mourinho or to the mancs and it means we can focus on bigger and better things.

Losing out on Salah is not such a big deal because scoring isn't a problem, Sterling has been superb and he will now spend his weekends picking splinters out of his arse(his stats are better than Januzaj too.)

We do however have a very weak spine of the team when Lucas is injured, we have no suitable replacement and frankly "crystal" Joe Allen has done nothing to justify his transfer fee(although he isn't a defensive midfielder to be fair.), the experiment with Gerrard in that role failed and will always fail because he just doesn't have the discipline needed, that is a fair criticism, it's also fair to say that he is on the downward curve as well.

We do need a CM and a fullback(though it was good to see Flanagan back at the weekend.).

There are good CM out there who are within our price range that can do a job, I would love us to sign Fernando, strong in the tackle, composed on the ball, good range of passing and good tactical nous.

He is the kind of player who would make the difference between winning and losing games.

Him, Hendo and Gerrard would be a good midfield and it could even give Allen the chance to prove doubters like me wrong.

26 Jan 2014 19:24:14
Your right we can't use the excuse of not buying for the sake of buying, but overpaying is stupid. We offered in the region of £10M for Salah, if we offered £13M Chelsea would have went higher. They are supposed to have paid £15M. If we went 15 they would have went 16. They bought him to stop us buying him. He will warm the bench there.

{Ed002's Note - Every word is rubbish.}

26 Jan 2014 19:45:01
The fact that you'd even consider 2 a possibility pisses me off no end.

You know the club's losing £50m a year right? Who do you think is plugging that hole? The money fairy?And you know Rodgers has spent £50m nett on transfer fees alone, right?

Do you why we're not buying Juan Mata (aside from the fact that he won't come here)? Because the club doesn't meet FFP, as has been pointed out about 3 million times. No good seeing John W. Henry pump another £100m of his or FSG's own money in transfer spending into the club and then be told we can't compete in Europe because we posted a £150m loss last year, is there?

I see up the page you wishing for an Arabian oil baron to appear. Not going to happen. There's a finite supply of rich people prepared to sink hundreds of millions into football clubs and find ways to cheat the FFP rules. And none of them were queueing up three years ago, were they? FSG are the best owners we could've realistically hope for. But some people still aren't happy, eh?

Sick of this sort of ignorance from fans.

Ok, your right we have a thin squad.but we are trying to stop loosing money we have to have a thin squad even if we get c.l we will still have a slightly thin squad compared to others we can still do well and get top four why in the hell is everyone panicking we keep home form good and we should get top four also your remark about 7 to 12 mill range won't set the prem league alight is nonsense sturridge coutinho van der vart. seamus coleman was bought for pennies that's a few off the top of the head alberto will be good if kept aspas will keep scoring when played.and something I find myself saying a lot leave it up to them.everyone is worried about us not buying, what worries me is lucas being injured.allen may step up and perform like he's playing for a contract let's hope we get the injured back and playing well

I'm a glass half empty kind of guy, but I do think someone like M'villa or Fernando who are both in our price range will just make enough of a difference. Goals aren't an issue but midfield has recently been our failure.

Our price range is pretty clearly rather small, so I by no means would be certain M'Vila or Fernando are in it.

Fernando nearly joined that mob across Stanley Park for £15m in the summer so with 6 months less on his contract it's reasonable that the price could be less.
M'villa is apparently available at the £10-15 mark, well within budget and both at the right age.

We've offered a loan to buy with little money down for M'Vila and apparently well below 11M for Salah. Why do you assume we have 10M+ to spend?

FSG`s trying to make lfc self-sufficient and solvent on its own which has never happened in decades but some of these fans are too daft to comprehend this simple point. Maybe these fans running their mouths slating FSG should stump up the cash to plug the annual 50m pound hole that FSG`s been plugging w/ their own cash

26 Jan 2014 17:45:38
Ed02 are
1. Pastore
2. El Sharaawy
3. Shaqiri

Available for loan deals this month?

{Ed002's Note - The answer is the same as it was when you asked 45 minutes ago.}

Didn't think it went through ed my bad

26 Jan 2014 17:37:49
Away to the gunners will be tough.

Won't exactly be a walk in the park for us either, so many top games and little time to rest for the players.
You leave out Suarez and Sturridge and we will give spare you the horror of facing Betner

Gunner62, genuinely laughed out loud at that, had to explain that to the wife!

26 Jan 2014 17:24:49
Afternoon eds. Reports coming out in portugal that gomes of benfica have had excepted a bid of 15 mllion euro. But hasn't said who the club is. Have you heard anything about this? An if true could it be Liverpool.

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

26 Jan 2014 17:19:56
Watching the Chelsea match today, terrible career move from salah to move there. Hazard oscar willian schurrle ramires among others will mean he will get extremely limited game time. Maybe we'll get him in 2 seasons time for around 10 million like Sturbridge and the like.

But the subs bench seats are heated I hear!

He's been now rebranded the Egyptian Wright-Phillips.

26 Jan 2014 17:11:45
Hello eds for some reason when I click to post in rumours it posts in banter (did it on my last acount) so not sure where this'l end up but being realisticc do you even see us making any signings in jan at all now? and even if we did are there any players that we can afford that are likely to be that much better then any of our current squad? obviously there are plenty of different players being rumoured but who do you feel we can afford that will actually be an improvement?

{Ed002's Note - It goes where the editors decide. Read the posts.}

26 Jan 2014 16:51:49
Who are the people at the club that values the players we go after?

As I find it hard to believe that Aspas, Alberto, Sako and Ilore were bought for the figures banded about. The fact also that some then get loaned out is a joke when we don't have much money.

I also find it strange that BR keeps telling us we will only bring in players who will improve the side yet clearly 60% don't :-)

Mignolet, Sturridge and Countinio seem to be the only players we have bought who are good enough to play on a regular basis.

You can see why the owners struggle with spending money when so much is wasted.

With the Eds implying that we offered way below the price Chelsea paid and Basel wanted I cannot see the club buying anyone.

It's a godsend that BR has got us playing as we have been :-)

{Ed002's Note - The cost for the four players you mention was:
(a) Transfer fees - £39M plus:
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the EPL.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent £25M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years leading to this window).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches(what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (sometimes waived).

26 Jan 2014 18:41:36
I couldn't disagree more with the OP.
When everyone is fit 6 of BR's signings are part of our best 11 when they are on form.

Mignolet, Toure, Sakho, Allen, Coutinho, Sturridge.

It's not Allens fault we overpaid. I think he has played really well whenever he has played. I really Don't get this Allen slating. Our Best Midfield is Him, Lucas and Hendo. Give it a rest.

BR should take a look at Ignacio Camacho from Malaga, we could a player like him in midfield. I think £8-10million would get him. Any chance dear Ed02? Cheers

{Ed002's Note - None.}

26 Jan 2014 16:41:00
Get the feeling something is happening on the transfer front for a midfielder with Romulo, Niguez & Gomes linked within a few days. Maybe we are testing the waters seeing which target is more feasible?

Just dipping the toe?

26 Jan 2014 16:32:39
Tense few days ahead I think. I'm obviously not on my own in thinking that a couple of first team players would really help our team with the we lift we need. Come on red men three points against the blues.

Not tensed at all. We will have our injured players back for the final run-in. But if we can get a couple of good players who can add something to the squad, the gret. If not, we`ll b fine.

26 Jan 2014 16:21:12
According to reports in Portuguese paper A bola, Midfielder Andre Gomes has been sold for 15m to an un-named team this afternoon and the club is to be announced any time soon.

Don't know what to believe myself but just thought I wold pass on what I've seen.

I wonder who it is?

Well funny that because it's NOT Liverpool fc

26 Jan 2014 16:03:24
Two young CM being linked; Saul Niguez (Spanish for €16m) and Andre Gomes (Portuguese €15m).

26 Jan 2014 15:52:23
Hi Ed's, has anyone shown any interest in Ibai Gomez? he's playing really well this season.

{Ed002's Note - He won't be going anywhere.}

26 Jan 2014 15:39:11
Hi eds, not really a rumour but a question, how come in England we are only allowed to talk to foreign players in the last 6 months of their contract while in Germany Munich are signing all players within 6 months of contract ie lewonwoski rode goetze etc? Are they paying the clubs a small fee or is the rules different to ours? Thanks

{Ed002's Note - They are not signing agreements or talking to the players - they are simply agreeing the moves. Goetze was different. So it is agreed that Rode will move but there is no contract.}

Cheers ed!

26 Jan 2014 15:30:42
My sources tell me that Roy Race is to have a medical tomorrow. Apparently he has fallen out with the melchester board and wants a fresh start. Hotshot Hamish will also come in before the transfer window slams shut. Eds can u confirm this?

Without mighty mouse we shouldn't pursue the deal

I;ve heard we are after the world class goalie Billy The Fish as well.

26 Jan 2014 15:21:23
Salah done deal to Chelsea according to Mourinho live on ITV. Let's move on and make sure we don't screw up other priorities.

Stopped caring, really.

26 Jan 2014 15:11:14
I know he left in a strange way but don't you think a player like Raul Meireles could do a job for us again. you could get him for cheap, he knows the prem and Liverpool and would be a good addition to midfield.

Been there done that and then got rid!

I don't see him as an upgrade on what we have, nor do I see him as consistent enough for what we need.

We shouldn't be buying for the sake of it.

It was clear that Raul didn't work as a Defensive mid he was a good CM but we already have an ageing CM.

What you mean by do a job again?
He didn't do anything of note the first time.

Yes he did, Mikey. He might have left in acrimonous cirumstances BUT he ws great for us especially under KK.

Great is a massive overstatement there mate. I remember how lazy he was, he made Johnson look proactive. He was talented I will give you that but it's a team game and his teamwork and effort was well below par. I imagine he would only be worse under Rodgers who values work ethic and teamwork.

Meireles did not do a lot at all for me redohio, I am with mikey1985 on that, sh*thouse as well

26 Jan 2014 14:56:12
Saul Niguez is done his father is on mersyside we've agreed a contract, expect him to be in the squad for WBA.

Oh yes that tried and trusted mid field player in premier league! Who?

26 Jan 2014 13:40:20
Ed who's this Saul Niguez lad? Personally never heard of him. Do you know if he is any good? Cheers,

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

OK Ed change of question (and I'm sorry about this) but do you think we will sign Niguez and say a winger or will it be one or the other? Cheers mate,

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are trying to improve the squad. I have said what I know about SN.}

26 Jan 2014 13:31:17
With Salah now off to Chelsea, who would you like to see Rodgers go after? I'd much rather money spent on a defensive midfielder and a wing back. Romulo and Montoya perhaps? I just hope the club strenghtens some how in this window as we appear weaker than what we were at the start of the window! YNWA

26 Jan 2014 13:16:53
Going off on a tangent(for the Eds or general readership) Does anyone know how many STAPLES(ouch!) Skyrtle had in his head behind the goal yesterday? And then he came back on! Now that's what I call a hard man not to mention playing for the shirt!
In Buck we trust!

None. He's so hard the staples broke.

Skyrtles so hard he asked for a big mac at burger king and got one! still makes me chuckle that 1!

I heard the staple gun needed a tetanus shot.

26 Jan 2014 12:40:30
Ed02 do you see us going after another attacker having missed out on salah? Also do you think we will sign a midfield player this window? we are clearly interested in one having made the loan offer for m'vila. thanks

{Ed002's Note - The club will look to improve the team if they can.}

26 Jan 2014 12:35:08
Eds, multiple sites repeating on both Saul Niguez and Andre Gomes, some saying that we have been told to up our bid on Gomes. If there is no truth in either its very frustrating for us fans to keep hearing and it seems like every site feed off each other until another player is mentioned.

Think I'm going to stay away from Newsnow from now on. It's doing my nut in.

Stay way from newsnow mate if you took everything they said seriously we would have a squad of 60 players.

{Ed002's Note - Newsnow don't say anything at all. All it does is gather feeds from other sources.}

26 Jan 2014 12:29:55
Hey Ed,
What do you know about our interest in Antonio Candreva?

{Ed002's Note - There won't be any. Twitter?}

26 Jan 2014 12:26:53
Hi eds, in your opinion do you think we will sign a player in this transfer window?

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

26 Jan 2014 11:55:57
I posted in the summer that top 4 or even an outside chance of the league was there for us because of the upheaval at so many clubs this season, if we bought quality rather than shopping in the bargain basements of the European leagues, it's there for all to see what option we went for, yet by some miracle ( SUAREZ ) we are close enough to achieve the former, but only if the squad was strengthened this month, yet low and behold, the owners revert to type and penny pinch and expect the manager to work a miracle and keep us in the top 4 ( although he hasn't helped himself with some of his buys ).

Our defence is awful FACT! We are light in midfield and as I suspected the keeper is looking very dodgy and with no decent competition for his place. Thankfully we have Sturridge and Suarez to give us half a chance.

I will be watching the game through my fingers on Tuesday, as I can't see us not conceding, just hope Luis or Danny have there shooting boots on and we can score more, it's the first time in donkeys years that my bottle has gone going into a Derby!

Put your hands in your pockets F$G or our season could be in danger of imploding, and if some of you on here can't see that then your in for a nasty surprise in the coming months!

I have not criticized Rodgers recently but I have this horrible feeling that his sucking up to the owners is going to cost us the top four. Apart from couple lucky buys he has been useless in the transfer market and it is not him but Suarez who is keeping us in the hunt for top four. Once we miss out and Suarez leaves Brendon will come out with statements like we tried our best to keep him but failed. Not that he did not buy wisely or did not give people like Suso a chance as he is too scared to drop the seniors like Gerrad and Johnson. Lots of supporters wanted Suarez out in Summer. I am glad he stayed otherwise a relegation battle would have been looming by this time.

{Ed001's Note - Suarez is keeping us there? Remind me how we got on while Suarez was out suspended? What a ridiculous post. Have you not realised it is a team game yet?}

Yeah c'mon FSG let's start overpaying for players who don't want to come to our club. Let's forget about the Financial FairPlay, give Basle the 25m and drag the likes of Salah kicking and screaming to Merseyside. Let's pay him higher wages than Chelsea would so there's no chance of him leaving in the Summer unless Madrid come in for him. Or Barca. Or Munich. Or Man City.

Waro makes sense, great minds think alike.

If you watched the supplement today on Sky, they were talking about the Glzers being prepared to spend 200 mil.
Even though in reality they don't have it to spend persee, they know that if they do not fulfill their aim of at least champions league etc etc
then the sponsorships won't be quite as lucrative.
That's forward thinking in my book, I've said many a time, football is now about the money, be a success and you reap the rewards.
Im afraid to say the only way to be successful is to spend money, i'm not saying foolishly like the past few windows, but NOW is the time to spend if they want CL and a title push.
They also said Mata will work out cheap for Man Unt if they achieve CL place with him in the side so it was in theory a no brainer.

26 Jan 2014 14:50:22
I agree our defence is awful at present, but that's largely down to injuries isn't it?
Not saying our defence would be awesome if everybody was fit, but I'm pretty sure we would have conceded less goals!

26 Jan 2014 14:03:35
Yes Ed02 we did win some witht he help of Sturridge but without Suarez's contribution we would have been nowhere by christmas. And by the way it is a team game but I have seen more team work from Suarez then Sturridge. I riterate that Suarez is carrying us. If he was not that important he would have been left out yesterday. Rodgers has a lucky break with Suarez staying otherwise we would have been looking for a new manager by now. Martinez was a much better choice but may be he did not supply a 100 page dossier.

{Ed001's Note - this is just idiocy. Give it a rest. Suarez played because he is a part of the team, not because he is carrying us. You are just looking for any excuse to whine, because you are clearly searching high and low for ones and had to dig this one right out of the bottom of the lowest barrel. It is not luck that Suarez is there. Only a fool thinks that it was anything to do with luck. He was forced to stay by the club, nothing to do with luck, all about desire. As for him carrying us, that is just nonsense talk. He is playing well, but you seem to forget that the manager is the one setting up the team to play to his strengths. Now you want to attack Sturridge, for his team work? You are just pathetic. You have nothing but whines, give it a rest and try and support the team just this once.}

You can`t win w/ these people. They are so hell bent on being right that they criticize even though it`s clear they have NO case. They want to be right so much that they`d rather see us fail than them being wrong. Suarez has been carrying us? Bro, you are reaching for crap to grab on so much that it wreaks of desperation and petty, pathetic rancor. With fans like these who slate their very own players, coaches and owners, who needs enemies. You lot are so pathetic and juvenile to the point of outright disgust.

26 Jan 2014 11:37:25
According to the Daily Fail we upped our offer for Salah to £18.5million after Chelsea's offer was accepted. Chelsea came back with a higher offer thought to be in the region of £20m.

If true it raises a couple of interesting issues:

(1) If LFC were prepared to pay that much to secure Salah why did they make such a derisory starting bid? It seems clear that had we bid close to what Basel were demanding, which was less than £18.5m, we could have sealed the deal a long time ago.

(2) If we have a budget of £18.5m or anywhere near this amount for an attacking wide man then it does put the likes of Shaqiri within range. Shaqiri is disillusioned by the lack of game time he's getting at Bayern Munich in a World Cup year whereas he would be a guaranteed starter for Liverpool. Personally I think he is also a more developed player than Salah.

Hope you post this Eds and look forward to reading your thoughts.

3. Don't believe everything you read in the papers. Especially the daily fail.

26 Jan 2014 14:05:00
Mate we were prepared to spend nearly £25 million on mkhitarayan. If you include agents fees, VAT, relocation costs and all the other costs Ed02 tells us about then that signing would have cost upwards of £35 million pounds. we ended up with moses on loan so we still have at least £35 million to spend.

We have plenty of money, money is not an issue. Its just that we won't pay over our valuation of any player.

{Ed002's Note - Money is an issue - in the summer the club were expecting Suarez to leave.}

The case remains however that we have £18m or thereabouts for a player in that position. Surely that puts us within range of a few candidates?

Is it just me or of people seem to have forgotten that after bids of ~20M-25M for Mkhitaryan and Willian that we did actually spend ~24M on Sakho and Ilori instead? Or I guess maybe that money came from the secret defender piggy bank hid in the sofa and not the midfielder one in the cupboard.

26 Jan 2014 11:17:34
I know it may be a bit soon to tell but do you think that Rodgers will be looking to bring borini and assaidi back after their loan spells? Or will we possibly be looking to move them on or loan them out again?

Borini yes as long as he continues injury free and his decent form. I can see him being a squad player and a good bench option.
Assaidi, no I can't see it. I can see him being sold, hopefully for a small profit.

Suso or Assaidi? for me suso.

Borini for Aspas? Borini for me but someone like Moussa sow would be better.

26 Jan 2014 10:28:50
What we need is a solid defensive midfielder, abit of steel.

Who that is I don't know.

Also let's start seeing ibe, I know sterling is doing well but for me ibe is the one with most potential.

Sterling has turned it on this year, but I too believe Ibe has the most potential overall. Hope he can get some games now.

Agree 100% re mid player but we tend to fanny on far too much we won't get one.

Would you be bothered if we signed mvilla? He has some issues yes but no worse than Suarez and he is a good player already with the potential to be even better.

Never really seen mvila play.

Just need experience really, we've enough promising young players

I would say he's probably good enough to walk right into our team especially with Lucas out.
He's also a realistic option because with him being a bit of a person not many clubs will be willing to take him on.
But the talent is certainly there.

26 Jan 2014 09:50:53
Hi ed if lpool were too buy today or tomorro would they be able too play in the darby maybe if we bought salah

{Ed002's Note - If they were registered in time. I am not so sure the chances of Salah playing in the derby are that great just now.}

26 Jan 2014 08:49:11
I've been reading up on youngster Saul Niguez from Athletico, he seems an ok player with potential but IMO not quite what we need, he's farmed out on loan as deemed not ready for first team. He has a 20m clause but a deal could be done for less. I would rather we kept our money than spend on another one for the future.

Okay Dez let's wait 2yrs when he will be out of our price range. I think he and Gomez are exactly the players we should be out to buy, before the clubs with more money to spend come in and out bid us.

26 Jan 2014 07:30:00
Eds,

Realistically, what players in your opinion are we most likely to pursue this week?
I find it hard to believe that we wouldn't at least try for a loan signing or two in this window.
Gutted about Salah, I believe he will become a top Prem League player.
This is probably our best chance to acheive a top four finish for years, and I would not hold the same level of confidence next season, as I am sure Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal, The and most likely Spurs will all spend big this summer.
We on the other hand will almost certainly lose Suarez if we don't acheive a top four place come May!!!

26 Jan 2014 03:19:12
With Lucas LEIVA out for a while, wouldn't it be feasable to use Daniel Agger in the Defensive Midfield role? Or, at a push, Kolo Toure?
I'm assuming we won't buy anyone this January so I'm trying to think like a cash-strapped manager.
A defence which relies on Flanagan, Skrtel and Cissokho keeps me awake at nights.
Coates, Agger, Johnson and Kelly are all crafted from crystalized sugar and we should maybe look to recoup some cash back.
Our defence isn't the type of defence which held Rome or repelled the hordes at Agincourt.
In fact, I slightly poo my Tesco underpants every time we have to defend a set-piece.even against lower-league opposition!
Skrtel, Johnson and Cissokho are extremely poor at defending set-pieces and our goalies aren't exactly formidable in this area!
With big, big games coming up I would urge the "decision-makers" at Liverpool to look at strengthening our dodgy defence.
The "spine" of our midfield also needs looking at and needs a "Souness", "Whelan" or "McDermott" to drive it forward. Henderson is okay but I don't think he and Gerrard play well together.
I know we are fourth and my argument is thus weakened but I think we NEED to re-evaluate the whole squad soon.
We have loads of players out on loan and that usually equates to players available for sale.
Suso, for me, is as good as Coutinho and both should be kept.
Wisdom and Coady are also worthy of another year.
We do have a few really promising players coming through the ranks and they should be nurtured.
Gerrard NEEDS to be replaced and only money will do that, in my humble opinion.
Please, Brendon, do right by our Club and get it right NOW!
ANFIELDPETE

Wow your analogies blow

26 Jan 2014 01:06:13
The Standard chartered deal ends 2014. We are going to have shirt sponsor and stadium long term deal (like arsenal / City). Either Ooredoo, the Qatari telecoms giant formerly known as Qtel or Indonesian airline company.

{Ed002's Note - The Standard Chartered contract runs until the summer of 2016.}

26 Jan 2014 01:24:30
correction they extended it 2 years. The new stadium sponsor is happening, will look to at the shirt deal too. We have been looking into this over a year now.

{Ed002's Note - Jolly good.}

What does it mean edoo2

{Ed002's Note - You will need to be more specific.}

If you have to be corrected on the length of the current deal, then I suggest you look a bit harder, as it does nothing for the credibility of your comments.

{Ed002's Note - He might want to look at which sponsor's name is written on the shirt as well.}

Is it shirt sponsor or anfield edoo2

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool is sponsored by Standard Chartered - why is this so difficult to grasp for people?}

Shud have said training kit or anfield edoo2 soz

{Ed002's Note - I really have no idea what you are talking about.}

Tomorrows announcement do you know if it hs something to do with sponsor of training kit or anfield.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any "announcement" tomorrow. There will be a pre-match press conference.}

26 Jan 2014 00:15:20
Ed 001 & Reds,

Job done at Bournemouth, however I would have expected that at 2-0 up and with 30 mins to go we could have seen a little more of of our fringe players. Instead of putting Alberto & Sterling on with only 6 mins to play why not put Ibe & Alberto on with 30 mins to play in order to go show? I would have liked to have seen either Sama or Aspas on too. Surely with all of our injuries at the moment this would have been a perfect opportunity to asses the guys under pressure. Or were we really that uncomfortable in the last 30 mins?

Fully agree that was my assumption too, but it was clear when lineups came out that BR wants to get Moses & fullback issues sorted so they can contribute- actually contribute on the field not just a brief glimpse of potential like I've would provide. He's talentedand I like him to succeed but he's too young to carry us for half the season. Like to think he will get a run towards the end when we may need the cover and hopefully he will shine. YNWA

25 Jan 2014 23:43:26
Liverpool last night upped there bid for salah to 18.5m, the source also said that Chelsea will now up there offer to 20m as there determined to get there man.

We never bid for him over valuation hardly going 2 throw 20 million in now

25 Jan 2014 23:24:43
Ed do you know of any LFC interest in Saul Niguez of Athletico and would a transfer be possible btw since he's currently on loan?

{Ed002's Note - See previous answer.}

25 Jan 2014 23:58:07
Posted similar to this during game today but can't see it anywhere. We need cover for Mingolet, Jones comes for crosses and falls over like an outfield player playing in goal after your first choice goalie has gone off injured or sent off. If we are without Mingolet for any league games through injury or suspension our hopes of CL will be over, Jones, I'm sorry to say is very poor.

We have much more urgent needs than the quality of our backup goalkeeper.

Wow, just wow! When will people on this forum stop whining about our players. How people can complain about Brad Jones is dumbfounding. If you ask me he is the ultimate professional, one who is happy and content to sit on our bench week after week, without sulking, without complaining about lack of game time, and he is happy to play when called upon for the odd game here or there.

Brad pulled on the Liverpool jersey yesterday, put in a solid shift, didn't concede any goals, in what was another lacklustre Liverpool performance, and will happily take his place back on the bench when we meet Everton on Tuesday night. For a goalkeeper who doesn't play all that often, he put in a solid, professional performance and got the job done that was needed to be done. Instead of whining about him and calling him crap and no good, maybe we should saying, good effort and well played son! Maybe, some of our other players should take note of the professional attitude and performances that Brad displays for LFC day after day, week after week.

Perhaps Brisbane maybe slightly biased

Calmdown, yes we have more urgent needs than back up goalie but the need is there all the same.
Brisbane, did you see how many crosses brad jones didn't get near?
His attitude is great but come on he is going to cost us dearly if he has to have a run of games, just being realistic .