Liverpool Banter Archive July 26 2016

 

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26 Jul 2016 22:23:26
Anyone else think if we can't find a left back good enough, we should try flanno and Clyne, both have played there before, I almost think Clyne played better there.

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27 Jul 2016 01:25:45
Flanno has gone on loan.


27 Jul 2016 03:22:33
I don't think Flanno has gone anywhere yet, can't remember if it was confirmed or not but don't think so. I do think he will go out on loan but yes I do think Flanno could be given time here.


27 Jul 2016 07:44:55
Flanno has gone to Burnley on a season's loan.


27 Jul 2016 07:57:34
That's why I brought it up, would rather keep him than him going on loan, as an Option over Moreno.


27 Jul 2016 08:25:17
Yeah, yeah, Fencey, sure you did.


27 Jul 2016 11:07:50
Flanno having his medical at Burnley. Smith should complete his move to Bournemouth today, then we'll sign a left-back. Simples.


26 Jul 2016 22:14:38
So Brad Smith only going for £3 mill and not £6 mill as originally reported.

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26 Jul 2016 20:20:58
Higuain 90 million euros. wow. I thought he was past his prime but obviously Juventus don't.

This explains why Arsenal couldn't sign him.

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{Ed041's Note - 36 goals in 35 games last season suggests not.

27 Jul 2016 03:25:58
How can you score that many in Serie A and have people say your past your best. He was one of the best goalscorers in the world last season. How much do you think a 30+ goals a season striker costs?


27 Jul 2016 10:08:13
Past his prime? Perhaps you've gone way past everyone's present timeline.


27 Jul 2016 09:59:36
Seems the OP slept through last season or has never heard of Serie A. I'd say being 28 and finishing 2nd between Suarez and Ronaldo for the European Golden Boot is the very definition of being IN your prime.


26 Jul 2016 18:23:26
Lot of talk about flannagan, i think gomez is better choice than him. Flannagan was poor, every time he played and one of the reason we got rid of skrtel and bought mane.

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26 Jul 2016 18:57:19
Flanagan was great until last year, he is coming back from long injury though. How are the other players relevant to him?


26 Jul 2016 19:07:52
Can't see how the sale of skirtel has anything to do with the signing of mane.


26 Jul 2016 19:10:05
Apparently. talks are ongoing at the moment regarding a winter break in the English Football Calendar
I don't really know what to make of it myself. I would imagine Klopp would be in favour of a break.
Anyone got any thoughts on it.


26 Jul 2016 19:11:00
This is joke yeah?


26 Jul 2016 19:12:55
Completely agree with you, that is why we sold agger and got balloteli, Sold pepe reina and got daniel sturridge!


26 Jul 2016 19:25:53
Assume you mean Matip and not Mane?


26 Jul 2016 19:36:07
Waqas, take a bow son.


26 Jul 2016 20:07:45
Agree with the OP.

Also, Coutinho has been very bad every time he has played. I think Brewitt would do a better job. That is why we sold Bogdan and signed Wijnaldum.


26 Jul 2016 20:25:40
Flannagan was brilliant before injury. Gomez looked good but for me he is nowhere near the player Flanagan could be. I hope he doesn't go anywhere.


26 Jul 2016 20:25:44
Not to be too horrible but Skrtel would have been gone long time ago only if we had a manager who was able to see that he was never good enough. We should have bitten City's whole arm off when they wanted to sign Skrtel years ago and while Skrtel was threatening to leave!

Klopp did the right thing by moving him on. All the best to Skrtel in Turkey. Our defence is better off without him.


26 Jul 2016 20:26:30
In Istanbul

No. it's no joke.
Premier League Chief Executive, Richard Scudamore has backed Sam Allerdyce's call for a post Christmas, Winter break.
Whether it just applies to Premier League teams. I'm not sure. But talks are ongoing.


26 Jul 2016 20:38:29
1) How do you know how good matip can be?
2) Did you know Gomez lost form and struggled before his injury?
3) How do you know Gomez is better than Flanagan who is a more established player.
4) I bet you said the same thing about ilori, as if he was a messiah, look at how that turned out.
5) Flanagan hardly played last season, why would someone be brought in to cover him at centre back. Can you say 'moreno'.
6) You must be 10, bless you.


26 Jul 2016 22:16:31
Flanno was one of the best full backs i have seen in a red shirt before his injury.


26 Jul 2016 22:26:41
Say what you like about Flanno, but don't forget he's the reason we sold Jermaine Pennant and bought Igor Biscan.


26 Jul 2016 23:33:28
I think he means in the game where Skrtel arguably had his worst performance in a Liverpool shirt against Southampton, Flanagan was very poor and made Skrtel look a lot worse. Also helping Sadio Mane score a couple goals and hence why we bought him. Pretty shit logic though.


27 Jul 2016 07:34:58
shents, yeah and fanno was captain in the match.


27 Jul 2016 09:18:51
liver la, I was replying to the original post. Unfortunately it is first come first serve with regards to where your replies sit.
Didn't even read the post about the winter break so frankly would not have had an opinion.


26 Jul 2016 18:02:06
Ed001 do you expect wijnaldum to be a replacement for joe allen and be more of an impact sub and competition for Can and Hendo. Or do you expect him to be a part of midfield three and sacrificing one of the attacking mids, or is he going to start instead of hendo or can?

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{Ed001's Note - I expect it to change on a game by game basis, to suit the opposition.}

27 Jul 2016 06:50:44
Exactly, you should always have something up your sleeves. There is something to be said for forming a partnership, but the job of a coach is to be able to understand opposition and plan towards that.


26 Jul 2016 16:25:42
Ed001, what's your analysis on Lovren's season since Klopp took over. I think he's been our best defender overall, but people usually rate Sakho higher due to his personality. Cheers mate.

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{Ed001's Note - he did showed a marked improvement, but he still struggled with reckless challenges at times, which led to his lack of pace being exposed as he was unable to recover. His recovery runs were sluggish at best. Who can forget Kolo Toure running past him to make a last ditch defensive challenge in our box as they both chased back in the Europa League final? That showed the worst of him, the lack of real desire to chase back. For me that shows why we need to replace him.}

26 Jul 2016 17:44:56
Think we need to play either him or sakho, not both. Both have a tendency to lunge in and need someone who can get them out of jail playing next to them, someone who can organise and reads the game well. I rate both players tbh.


26 Jul 2016 17:49:22
Sahko is better and has more pace than Lovren. Don`t believe me? Try catching up with Aubameyang and stopping him from scoring vs Dortmund at Anfield in the first half like Sahko did without fouling him. If you doubt me, watch the game again. Sahko is our best CB not just because of his personality, he is just that talented with pace, power, better passing ability and our best one on one defender bar maybe Kolo Toure, who`s no longer here. his heading does need some work tho, I admit.


26 Jul 2016 18:30:30
All valid points, cheers guys. I overlooked the EL final entirely since I tried to erase it from my memory (thanks for the Vietnam-style flashbacks Ed001), a very dark day.


26 Jul 2016 18:43:19
That was one of my moments of the season ed, toure blowing past lovren.


{Ed001's Note - great on Toure's behalf, but embarrassing to see Lovren like that.}

26 Jul 2016 19:01:23
I think Matip is going to be our best central defender.


26 Jul 2016 19:48:13
I think Lovren needs to improve some aspects of his game - his passing needs to be better, but more importantly, his decision making when it comes to challenges. He goes for a ball all out and this is where he needs to be selective and be a better judge of situations. This was his strength in his only season at Southampton and if he can work towards that, I think he will do well.


{Ed041's Note - every player can improve. The best ones work hard to do this throughout their careers.

26 Jul 2016 19:48:48
I disagree Ron.


26 Jul 2016 23:51:47
For me Sakho is potentially better but Loveen more dependable and consistent right now.


26 Jul 2016 22:50:03
Ed01 reading what your saying about lovren - do you yhink he'll be replaced?


{Ed001's Note - I think Matip already has been brought in to replace him and he will be the back up to him.}

27 Jul 2016 02:42:25
Like the look of Klavan me proper centre half.


27 Jul 2016 06:55:10
I agree with Mings on Klavan. In fact it is obvious you can't safely predict our starting 11, barring massive injury upsets.


26 Jul 2016 22:56:42
I think Ragnar could prove to be more than just an experience backup. He looked good vs us in the Europa and with Sakho apparently annoying Klopp he might get more games than many expected. Do you think Klopp wants rid of Sakho?


26 Jul 2016 15:14:12
Bbc sport saying Bournemouth agree 3mill fee for smith.
Where's the 6 mill fee come from? Add ons?
Seems a shame to lose a decent youngster for so little if they are right.

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26 Jul 2016 15:45:20
Before we changed managers he was scheduled to leave for nothing.
£3m is a decent fee, we only paid £4.7m for Karius who is expected to be a regular starter.


26 Jul 2016 16:12:22
Ron, u cannot compare gk with lb.


26 Jul 2016 16:14:27
Yeah but 4.7m spent and 6m recouped sounds better. Know what you mean though Ron. Just wondered where the 6m figure came from.


26 Jul 2016 16:21:59
And also what if he has a decent season playing regular for Bournemouth and then gets valued around 15 to 20 mill. Surely for the sake of 3m it would of been better to give him game time at lb instead of morena who we all know is useless. But then I ain't jurgen klopp so, so be in.
Excited for season ahead either way.


26 Jul 2016 16:36:20
He's not going to be worth £20m in a years time.
He was given chances but Klopp decided he's not what's needed, so best to sell him so he can at least play football and earn himself some money rather than Rot on our bench.


26 Jul 2016 17:04:04
Is there not a buy-back clause for Smith?


26 Jul 2016 17:56:38
If he keeps playing the way he`s doing as in, can`t defend and always bombing forward with reckless abandon with no positional sense, then he won't even be worth 1m. Hopefully, he improves.


26 Jul 2016 18:29:24
I agree with Ron.

Look guys you can't never sell a player in case they become good at some point in the future.

Smiths not playing first team football for us and Klopp has decided he's not up to it (I'm inclined to agree), so you sell him and look for a decent fee and allow him to go elsewhere to play first team football.

To see our unneeded players being sold as poised to released is very refreshing (see Allen, Skrtel, Ibe, Sinclair, etc)


26 Jul 2016 21:37:24
I really don't get this idea on so many of the fringe players that we better not sell them because they might suddenly get good or might suddenly do something against us. If there was the remotest chance that some of these guys are going to come good all of a sudden and/ or would be getting that kind of game time for us to develop then they wouldn't be sold. The only one who might develop further is Ibe and to be honest it seems like that is only likely to happen somewhere with less expectations, which if anything the Bournemouth price tag is going to increase expectations.


26 Jul 2016 11:17:07
Hello EDs

What's your opinion on the flanno loan move. Good for his development? A way to get him out?

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - just a chance for him to get some regular football. Not a good idea in my opinion. He should have been given that with us.}

26 Jul 2016 12:30:05
Edd001 there was nothing stopping flannaghan from being our first choice right back. He needed a few league games under his belt but we accommodated players who were terrible last season such as moreno can't even defend . I'm angry at this decision to be honest.


26 Jul 2016 12:20:02
Over who though Clyne or moreno?


26 Jul 2016 13:02:17
Either. None of them two know how to defend properly. Both rash and give silly fouls away! But preferably flanno on the right for me although he's done a good job on the left when played there. A full backs first job is to defend and sadly our two first choice can't do it.


26 Jul 2016 13:12:37
I don't really understand why Clyne gets such a hard time.


26 Jul 2016 13:19:43
Think it's a good move myself. If he proves his fitness and form then he will come back and take the right back slot, he's not going to do that with clyne still here though who is currently seen as the safe bet and more reliable currently, despite being ineffective.


26 Jul 2016 13:21:00
love flanno. no he not a favourite of liverpool fans but reminds me of gary neville who was a top class right back defended first. as for are to they are not that good going forward to crossing very poor.


26 Jul 2016 13:34:39
Flan no is a huge favourite among Liverpool fans mate. His name is constantly being touted as an in house replacement for Moreno and often in his preferred position ahead of Clyne. I've even seen him mentioned by some posters as a candidate for a DM position. We love Flanno on this site.
Personally, I'd like to see him prove his fitness and if it needs to be elsewhere just now, then so be it. Moreno is our weakest link and Clyne, in my opinion, has not proven to be an upgrade on Glen Johnson! But the top of the premier league could prove to be a tough proving ground after such a long lay off. Hopefully he'll come back git and firing at right back.


26 Jul 2016 13:37:22
I'm very surprised we are allowing Flanno to go out on loan. In my opinion he's a much better player than Clyne (who I quite like also) . Flanno can play anywhere across the back, albeit he is best and most comfortable at RB.

Furthermore, I'm very surprised Brenda hasn't came in for him if it was clear he was available. Celtics defence is shocking and Flanno is likely to get Champions League football up there.

Also, although Rogers gets a lot of stick on here (the vast majority of it deserved), Flanno was one of the players who came on a lot under him and seemed to enjoy his style of football. If anything he has regressed under Klopp.


26 Jul 2016 13:38:29
I may not agree with the move but I understand it. Flanno needs to get back to full fitness and can only do that by playing every week. Is he better than Clyne when both are in form? Absolutely. See his 13/ 14 season when he was injury free so no arguments there. We have to give him every chance of getting back to that level hence, the move is good for him. As for Clyne getting a hard time Farno, it`s simple. He`s not good enough and even Klopp knows that which is why we are scouting RB`s at the moment.


26 Jul 2016 14:08:54
This move makes sense. Flanno has missed the best part of two years due to his terrible injury, basically had his knee re-built, all through a key stage in his professional development (given his young age) . Klopp clearly considers regular game time at a club where the training intensity won't be as agreesive as his for the squad this season as more important for the future of Flanno. Not having a game here or there with us this year. He will be back for next season fighting for the RB position no doubt!


26 Jul 2016 14:09:42
Black Raven how can you say he has regressed under Klopp? the lads been injured for a couple of seasons now and weren't upto the pace of the premier league when cleared for duty, so Klopp didn't risk him. I would love to know your reasons behind the regressed under Klopp comment.


26 Jul 2016 14:10:26
How has he regressed under Klopp? He's not been fully fit!


26 Jul 2016 14:20:51
Yes gents, you're right. He has been out with injury for a long time, but he's been injury free for 6 months or more. How long before he is fully fit? 2 years?

He a was shocking in a few games last season, especially Southampton when he had the armband!

Does anyone disagree that he improved a lot under Rogers? All i'm saying is it wouldn't hurt us or him to work with Rogers for another year to get fit and get his confidence back. If he goes to Burnley it'll be back to the wall defending for a full year and that's not what he needs. He needs to be playing football and come back next year to be our 1st choice RB.


26 Jul 2016 14:20:58
I love Flanno but I think Klopp wants a modern full back who can defend as well as attack. Flanno is a very good defender but he lacks the ability to attack at pace and take on a man. Maybe this is something that will come with further fitness and the opportunity to play regularly. Whereas Moreno is the opposite, poor defender but at times demonstrated he can attack. Clearly Klopp is looking for a quick defender with good positional sense who can attack/ defend.


26 Jul 2016 14:44:22
Massive fan of Flanno. He is very solid defensively, and very good on the ball.

But I don't think an argument for him playing can be founded on Moreno and Clyne giving away too many fouls. Flanagan is equally as guilty for conceding free kicks. The difference is his are cynical because he isn't quick enough. Clyne and Moreno are cynical because their positioning is awful.

My main argument for Flanno playing is that he is much better at sticking to his man when the ball comes into our third of the pitch, and that he is also much better than them on the ball. His passing, control and composure is light years ahead of Clyne's and Moreno's.

Flanno can actually cross it better as well, however his complete lack of pace prevents him from regularly getting into crossing positions. On the contrary, Clyne and Moreno have the pace to get into good positions but couldn't cross a letter 'T', let alone a football.

It is a massive shame Flanagan is so slow and massively lacks the athleticism to turn quickly. It is the main thing holding him back. If he can get a season under his belt, hopefully he can reclaim some of the agility he has lost through injuries. Whilst he was never quick, he was never this diabolically slow before!

I know football should not be based on physical attributes, but the modern English game is so quick that you need to have it to some degree. The only position I could see him getting away with it to some extent is holding midfield. He is definitely good enough on the ball to play there, and his lack of pace would be less exposed in a position where he is not the last line of defence and doesn't have to stand up to flying wingers for 90 minutes.

Sadly, we do not play with a dedicated holding midfielder, and I don't think Flanno has the mobility to play in a two man midfield.

I fear his career lies elsewhere.


26 Jul 2016 15:55:28
Shame we can't mush Flanno and Moreno together. While his final ball isn't always the best, Moreno does get forward and create. Past centre Flanno looks a bit lost for ideas.


{Ed001's Note - he seemed to know what to do when he got forward against Spurs did Flanno. I have no idea which two players you have been watching as Moreno offers nothing in terms of creativity or movement.}

26 Jul 2016 16:11:59
i did mean gary neville was not a fans fav not flanno.


26 Jul 2016 16:23:38
Completely agree with Moreno's movement, Ed, and I think I was referring more to his ability to get forward, get the ball and make attempts. His hit ratio is low, but the sheer number of attempts brought on by his attacking desire (and lack of defensive ability, I'll grant) has at least given some potential. It's as my brother-in-law says, "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut. " I feel there's something there going forward that can be refined, but I don't disagree with you or any of those who cringes when he gets the ball.

Ultimately, there's probably not enough brains in the lad to really succeed here. Shame, because the desire is there.

As for Flanno, it's much the same. Defensively very strong, and while he absolutely has had a few cracking games going forward, I personally find him far too inconsistent at this stage. However he's still young, and if Klopp feels regular play for another side will help home his abilities - particularly moving forward, I'm happy to see a loan move to accomplish that task.

Possible he's going out to get the spotlight off him briefly so he can progress without the glaring eyes of the media and day-to-day 'Pool fans? Might be something in that.


26 Jul 2016 16:25:38
If this move happens I'll be even more confused than I already am. We need two players for RB next season, a first choice and a back up, whichever one it is Flanno should be one of them. If he does go who will be our second? Randall? Gomez? I don't think either are better options. Again Klopp appears to have a masterplan I can't quite follow.


26 Jul 2016 16:27:26
I for one was hoping flanno would of been pushing Clyne all the way this season for the rb spot. But if jurgen klopp thinks it's best for him to have a season loan to get fully fit there has to be assurances he gets game time and comes back next season raring to go. Still dissapointed though. GOOD LUCK FLANNO.


26 Jul 2016 16:30:03
The injuries that flanno has had Black Raven are not easy to get over believe me, nor the ones suffered by Ings and gomes, I suffered an acl injury 2 years ago and still recovering fully after surgery. Now yes it's different these lads have the top end physios and medics around at their place of work every day but these injuries affect you for life not just the recovery stage. So to say that he has regressed under Klopp because he had a bad few games in the only 6 months that he has been fit in three years is absurd. He may continue to pick up niggles next season too because he will always be recovering from those injuries.


26 Jul 2016 16:39:52
If flanno has his back to the wall, non stop defending while at burnley he will at least be tested while on loan.
Really hope he returns the player he was before his injury.


26 Jul 2016 18:06:14
Only thing I'd want to give Flanno from Moreno is his pace.


26 Jul 2016 18:32:26
Flanno looked a shadow of his pre injury self.

He needs regular football to get back to his best, or at least have a chance of doing so.

Fingers crossed for you Flanno and hopefully we'll have you back at your best for us at Anfield soon.


26 Jul 2016 19:34:45
I think it is a good move for Flanagan to prove his fitness, and to get regular football in the PL. If he is good enough (and almost everyone here thinks he is), he will become their starting RB, adapt to their manager's style and come back to us next summer when we can assess him alongside Clyne and Randall. Burnley will be hoping to stay in the PL and they could use the style of play Flanagan brings. And I would never want to see Flanagan playing central midfield against the likes of Hazard, Silva, Mkhitaryan etc and again some of these comments are way over the top IMO.

I am not a big fan of Clyne, and I agree he can't pass a ball to save his life, but he is at the moment a lot better and more suited to Klopp's style than Flanagan. Liverpool are not scouting any RBs and random made up nonsense along those lines does not strengthen ones argument.

As for Randall, who at times play as a defensive midfielder during his youth days, he was not one who stood out but he does have a chance to cement his place in the squad as a solid back up.


26 Jul 2016 19:49:53
I'd have Flanno over Clyne in a heartbeat - Flanno might not get forward with the same vigour as Clyne but, when he does, he is far more effective and can actually find a man (unlike Clyne) . He also has a much better sense of his defensive responsibilities and in particular his positioning - something Clyne is not great at. I find loaning him out a bizarre and unnecessary move and one which makes little sense - he has the right mentality though and if anybody can make the best of it, and improve themselves, it is Flanno. Good luck to the lad - I hope he returns in a season and make the RB spot his own.


26 Jul 2016 20:28:59
Flanno is a million times better than Moreno!

Glad he will get play time but agree with Ed01 that he should have been getting that with us. How Moreno played over him ill never know. Flanno on left is still far better than Moreno.


{Ed041's Note - I cant see why you have let him go out on loan, he looked the business before his injury

26 Jul 2016 20:51:00
I'm also puzzled as to where people get the idea that Clyne can't defend from. He is probably one of the best right backs in the premier league. And as an outsider he should have kept his position as 1st choice for England ahead of the brainless walker. Not saying he's the best ever but there are hardly a lot of high quality defenders around. He is steady and can get forward well at times too.


{Ed041's Note - Clyne can get pulled around to easy, better attacker than Glenn Johnson but equally bad defender imo.

27 Jul 2016 06:55:09
@ Kopdogs - have you watched Clyne at all? He is woeful when he gets forward. He finds good positions and space but what does he usually do in such positions? Headless chicken cross, misplaced pass or failed attempt to take on his man. He is awful going forward in fact I would even argue that Moreno (as bad as he is) is better going forward! And as for defence? He gets skinned too easily, doesn't have a good physical presence or bite in the tackle. As our team currently stands if I was an opposition manager my only instructions would be 'play it out wide - pressurize the fullbacks' because you know that, if you do that, you will have success against our team. Both our fullbacks are miles away from being good enough - which makes loaning out Flanno all the stranger as he is better than anything we have at the club. If it is a fitness/ long-term injury concern then that is a different story but if Klopp believes Clyne and Moreno better than he see's something I (and many fans) do not.


27 Jul 2016 13:06:02
Better attacker than Glen Johnson?! Clyne is a fluttering mess when inside the opponent's third of the field. He looks uneasy on the ball, can't thread a pass and can't cross. Johnson had much more guile and composure on the ball. I think back to when Johnson scored that late winner at the Bridge, and I can't imagine Clyne being able to do the same thing he did.


26 Jul 2016 09:48:48
Apparently Jetro Willems has posted a pic on snapchat of him signing a contract in a Liverpool training top. Any truth or someone taking the mickey?

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26 Jul 2016 10:01:55
HE photo shopped it HIMSELF.
Its Georginio Wijnaldum signing with his head replaced.
LOLZ.
Maybe a "come and get me" plea

vrcomp
Y. N. W. A.


26 Jul 2016 11:32:32
Captioned "Hahahahaha", any chance he could just find it amusing?


26 Jul 2016 12:38:19
Think it's a bit disrespectful to his current club to be honest.


26 Jul 2016 13:39:17
Hope no tapping up happened there because I can`t stomach any of that nonsense anymore.


26 Jul 2016 14:22:13
This is coming from the same guy that claimed the best team in the world would be 11 of himself.


26 Jul 2016 15:34:41
Can we report him to UEFA for tapping LFC up? 😄.


27 Jul 2016 10:00:35
Yes I realised that afterwards! Oops! Maybe if it doesn't work out for him he could get a job in photography, that was a very good photoshop! Didn't he also post something to Wijnaldum when he joined Liverpool saying 'I'll see you very soon'? Or words to that effect? Smokescreen or thinly veiled message? Him and Chilwell as back up wouldn't be a bad shout at all.


26 Jul 2016 08:58:50
Info for Aussie reds. As you know Optus have the rights to the epl next season. They have responded to the lack of sign ups and have an offer available til the end of the month. I've just signed up on their sim only mobile plan for $30 a month with epl totally free for the upcoming season. After that it's $15 a month for 2017-18. Bargain.

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26 Jul 2016 09:33:15
Really, they caved already? Good update, will have to check it out.


26 Jul 2016 13:45:25
$30 a months is not a bargain, that's for 12 months so 3 months you pay with no premier league The cost after the first year is an ADDITIONAL $15 so $45 a month thereafter. That excludes extra payment for fetch tv to watch it on a large screen tv or buy Apple TV to AirPlay it or use their app ( depending on which version you have) They are absolute thieves holding the Aussie public to ransom. Lucky I had a friend that doesn't watch football that uses their lame mobile and broadband services already and pays over the qualifying 'free' threshold so I get it for nothing. I wouldn't want to give these guys 1 cent for the way they held the public over a barrel.


26 Jul 2016 14:44:48
Of course the season is only 9 months. But for 30 you do get a phone plan remember? I'm just switching my plan. So cost neutral.


26 Jul 2016 14:49:26
Whilst I don't disagree swish, you wanna try living here in the uk, now that's an expensive TV package!


26 Jul 2016 15:07:04
Burkey, the only way its a bargain is if you don't already have a phone contract or broadband ( appears to be the case for you) eveyone else who is still under contract ( standard is 2 years) is being royally shafted as they have to pay for a mobile device they don't need or in most cases even want. I would have to pay $300-$400 to watch it as I'm already under contract.
I know sport isn't cheap in uk as I'm from there originally but I think if BT bought ALL the rights for football and the only way to watch it was to have their mobile or broadband there would be a massive uproar. They could have done an Internet season pass or a deal with Foxtel to screen it on Pay TV but that is not their agenda. It's scandalous they have got away with it. I think Ian Ayre even raised it at a recent meeting with the premier league as it serves no purpose other than to grow a lame service providers market share and rip off fans.


26 Jul 2016 16:09:56
Understand what you're saying, not good for someone in your situation. If you were Optus and had paid that sort of money, which the premier league happily took, you'd also want to maximise the possibilities. I used to pay $90 a month for Foxtel which had a heap of crap I didn't watch, so I'm actually ahead. Also, you don't have to pay for fetch, just plug your device into your big screen if you can. That said, at least with Foxtel they had epl on demand for $90 a season, would be good to see Optus offer something similar.


26 Jul 2016 17:34:15
Does anyone know if Foxtel will offer their liverpool tv channel online? I paid for their epl on demand last season and it wasn't too bad for the price. Wouldn't mind paying a similar amount even if it means delayed games.


26 Jul 2016 18:49:32
You can subscribe to the liverpoolfc tv site and get access to the channel. About 50gbp a year I think. Foxtel have it and the Manu and Chelsea channel to try and compensate for losing the premier league, but no plans to offer online access.


26 Jul 2016 22:52:03
Ive signed up for LFCTV. let's me look at the youngsters and the womens as well. Looks like good value so far. But does mean i'm going to miss out on non LFC EPL matches (my wife would say that is a good thing)


26 Jul 2016 07:55:06
Morning all.

I was in New Brighton yesterday working. I must share with you the view you now have of the mighty looking Anfield Stadium with the new Main Stand erected!

It looked awesome from across the water!

What was also a great sight to see was the amount of tourists taking pictures of it and just standing looking in awe at the new development!

Fair play to The Owners, the designers and all involved. (Supporters as well of course) for simply the best stadium in the world!

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26 Jul 2016 08:30:36
What a refreshing post. Well done that lad!


26 Jul 2016 09:05:01
Back in Liverpool for a quick visit. No games to see but will take a drive and check out the development.


26 Jul 2016 15:40:56
I live local and drive past quite often and still I stop every time in awe at it, from all over the city it's prominent now. Great efforts all involved.


25 Jul 2016 21:42:53
Hi eds and all. just wondered if i could trouble anyone for their opinion on Kevin Keegan. the player. the manager.

Any info appreciated.

Regards
Tom.

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{Ed001's Note - before my time as a player, I am afraid. As a manager, he was very much about attack, attack attack. He just wanted players to go out and score more than the opponent, no matter how many they scored. It was incredible to watch his teams, they could be so entertaining most of the time. Unfortunately the league was full of Pulis-type teams, who would just grind the games out and spoil the entertainment on their way to a 0-0 draw, usually.

What I particularly liked about him was that he would make the players end every training session with an autograph session for the fans. Players, and coaching staff, would have to spend time after every training session just going round the watching fans having pictures taken and signing everything put in front of them. Everything he did was done for the fans' benefit. Shame he couldn't handle the pressure, it was just too much for him. Probably because he cared too much about the fans, so the defeats hurt him on their behalf as well as his own.}

26 Jul 2016 05:24:55
A good read.

Ed01, if I may squeeze in, as my time as a fan just started from Benitez years, I would like to know, which you like the most?

I like Klopp, but it seems unfair to judge him just yet. I really like Benitez.

Err it's ok Ed, just remember after Benitez, they were Hodgson and Rodgers. I think I know your answer. ;)


{Ed001's Note - I love Klopp and did before he joined.}

26 Jul 2016 05:34:34
I started to like him only after we were first linked to him. Did some read especially his interviews and quotes, those really got me excited.

I am sure you are so glad that he's our manager now ya Ed.

Thanks for the reply Ed01.


{Ed001's Note - very glad.}

26 Jul 2016 06:52:49
Keegan the player was similar to Suarez, in that nothing was a lost cause. He was a defenders nightmare as he would chase anything and everything down, and formed a formidable partnership with John toshack.

Not blessed with the skills Suarez had, he still maximised what he had and his methods and endeavour were seen in his teams as a manager

Temperament wise, much better than Suarez ( who isn't) but could still be feisty when he needed to be.

Moved to Hamburg which made way for King kenny, but he himself became European footballer of the year, so gives a measure of how good he was.


{Ed001's Note - he didn't make way for King Kenny, the club targeted Dalglish to play alongside Keegan, but Keegan wanted out.}

26 Jul 2016 07:49:37
KK can't beat him. Liverpool's finest ever!


26 Jul 2016 07:53:15
KK being King Kenny! Oops I never realised KK also Kevin Keegan who I very quickly forgot when liverpools finest emerged. He (Kenny) could play alongside pretty much anyone so The loss was Keegan's - model sportsman model citizen and terrific player.


26 Jul 2016 08:31:52
Keegan wasn't blessed with the skills that some players had. He got to where he got through a superb amount of hard work and determination. His partnership with John Toshack was unbeleivable and the media even made a show about it, they were convinced that the pair were telepathic. All bull as we know but it made good press. He gave us a seasons notice that he was leaving and his best game was his last. 1977 European cup final. Bertie Vogts must still have nightmares about that game.


26 Jul 2016 11:28:17
And he had a great perm!


26 Jul 2016 11:58:04
"i love it, i would really love it. " made him infamous.


26 Jul 2016 12:07:24
Kevin keegan was my hero growing up watching the reds. Gave everything for the shirt. I was very upset when he left for hamburg. But then the cgabt went round wembley v man u in the charity shield " DALGLISH" abd life was anazing again! .


26 Jul 2016 12:53:47
The first game I can remember as a kid was the 74 cup final an Kevin played a blinder, he always gave everything as a player an makes some players today look bone idle. The Rome 77 final was possibly his best game in a Liverpool shirt, can still remember the joy of winning the cup for the first time an also the heartbreak that he was leaving, luckily canny old Bob had it sorted with Kenny. YNWA.


26 Jul 2016 14:29:09
He never got the credit mainly because he achieved plenty outside Liverpool and we had only his share and not the full estate. Keegan was the rare footballer who left Liverpool and won absolutely everything. Those were rare back then. He gave a full one month notice in advance before moving to Hamburg, never understood y people never mention him along the greats.

He was the Dalglish before the Dalglish.


26 Jul 2016 18:17:50
Great player. Superb partnership with Toshack.
Was never going to be playing with Dalglish. Keegan gave Liverpool 12 months notice that he was going. Dalgish was signed to directly replace him. Turned out to be the best buy in LFC history.


26 Jul 2016 19:55:30
Still remember that 1977 Final in Rome. The man was on fire - he had Berti Vogts "the bulldog" and most feared defender in Europe, in his pocket all night long. And everyone is right. Not super talented in terms of intricate football skills, but he more than made up of it with sheer will and determination. Deceptively fast and always very direct. He always took on his man and somehow got by him. You don't see much of that anymore. Looked kinda funny with that long shaggy curly hair and pink HSV Hamburg shirt the next year.


26 Jul 2016 20:58:55
Loved Kevin as a player. Even when he came back and played for Southampton, he was fantastic, partnering with Channon and Ball.
His "attack" mindset as a manager, should have been a blueprint on how football should be played. FA/ UEFA/ FIFA should have amended the rules to encourage that type of play. (Extra league point for every 5 goals scored? )


 
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