Liverpool Banter Archive May 26 2012

 

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26 May 2012 23:52:45
hi i am a BIG liverpool fan an i think Andy Carroll will be a geart player 4 liverpool an i will say he will get 15-25goals next Season
FranTheMen


Maybe 13-20. But 25, he's a bit far off right now but he will. I remeber two Of the best target men/ strikers in the world at age 23. They were simply awful. One got rejected at wigan. The other couldn't hit a barn door. They now go by the names for his life.they now go by the names of fernando llorente and Mario Gomez
AnfieldUSA


I am a big liverpool fan and i hope you are right , but i do not think so , if andy carroll was any good he would have beeb there for us.red mick tag


Red Mick - Lucky Arsenal didn't take your approach with Van Persie - they would have got rid of him after a couple of seasons.
Red Steve


 

 

26 May 2012 23:37:12
Anyone else betting the feeling it could be someone other than Martinez or Rodgers??


Yes i have a strong feeling too and it might shock a lot of people specialy the media. Wait and see

Andy kophead


Yesterday It was anyone But Martinez
Now it's anyone other than Martinez or Rodgers!!
Who else will it be that we don't want tomorrow?


 

 

26 May 2012 23:21:52
Hypothetical, who would fans prefer ?
Agree-Martinez , Disagree-Rodgers
NextGenRed


Klopp! but whoever it is I will support them, as they will be part of our club.
K79


My outsider is laudrup. has connections alreadt with liverpool fc , we are told anyway, with van gaal , ive said for a few days now , watch out for laudrup. steviep62


 

 

26 May 2012 23:13:10
Sessegnon would be a great signing for us.

BthekingB


 

 

26 May 2012 22:55:30
Rumours of JWH spoke to Brendan Rodgers today and hes flown over USA this evening. More twists and turns eh!


 

 

26 May 2012 22:52:20
Complete shot in the dark. Any Rakitic interest from us? If there isn't, just don't post this, if that's an option.

TSP {Ed022's Note - That is an option, but I will respond by saying at the moment there is no interest in anyone, as we have no structure of our club at the moment.}


Thank you edd 022 i have been saying this since kk got sacked. Jayo


 

 

26 May 2012 22:50:49
Really don't care if it is true that Pepe Reina has handed in a transfer request and leaves. He's been awful the last 2 seasons and no where near aggressive enough, he closes his eyes and turns away when a player gets close to him.

Rather have a young, hungry up-and-coming keeper like Schezny or Hart. Want some real aggression and desire.

No one is bigger than our club, and anyone that thinks otherwise we can do better without.

Olly J R


If Pepe did leave mate. I would like McGregor from Rangers. I think he's a decent keeper and would come very cheap.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed022's Note - My personal choice would be Vorm, but McGregor could be a good option.}


Young german Ter Stegen, only 19 could be a long-term solution - give him a couple years though, perhaps loan him back after buying him this season?

Jolly Red


Spot on Blair mate, Vorm/McGregor would do us fine. In Gers current position big Al would not cost too much.

Leyland Wool


Rui patricio for me


I'm with Jolly Red here, Ter Stegen would be a great choice.
Still kinda young but... Isn't De Gea?


Mcgregor would be good, agree with you guys
AnfieldUSA


How about a double swoop for McGregor and ter Stegen? The combined pair would probably be bought for less than we'd get for Reina, so we'd still have a few million in the kitty. That'd give us a player capable of coming straight into the first team, and would also make sure we didn't miss on the potnetial of ter Stegen.


 

 

26 May 2012 22:40:49
{Ed022's note - Brand new player profile on Hulk of FC Porto. www.player-profiles.co.uk - Cheers all.}


 

 

26 May 2012 22:36:36
Hi eds, love the site. I can confirm we have offered the managerial position to Terry Connor. Watch this space {Ed022's Note - I sigh at you.}


FACEPALM!!! lol
huddz red


What about steve kean and mick MacArthy partnership?
AnfieldUSA


 

 

26 May 2012 22:31:10
Not utter rubbish. The last two appointments have been poor. Do you think arsenal would appoint George graham if wenger left? I never wanted dalglish but he did far better than I thought and I would have given him another year( even if in my heart of hearts I did not think he would get us back into the top four). Hodgson is great managing mediocrity. He described teams like wolves being "in our compass". Pulling out all the stops for a top manager is hugely important. The only way FSG can do that is to offer a top wage and offer a large war chest to assemble a team.A Klopp type appointment. I am worried that FSG don't want to spend that and are going for mediocrity hence taking a chance on mangers unproven in upper echelons of football. we won the CL in 2005, final in 2007, semi in 2008, second in 2009. A few bad years with no buys for two summers and we are behaving like we are no longer a big club. A crucial time for FSG to think big. Beulah


Why does everyone think that the owners wont pay the right money for the right person , or are you going to complain if they dont want to pay over the odd's for average layers , like we did with downing , they have invested in our club and they seem to be honest enough so im going to give them the chance they deserve , it was not their fault kenny paid over the odds for downing and henderson , we really could hae got 2 top quality players for the same amount , if only kenny would have been wiser , the downing fee just sticks in my throat , he never even played well tonight , and kenny came out with the famous saying " downing is better than i thought " and some fans wanted to give him another season , for me the owners have done the right thing when they have had to , sacking camolli and then kenny and now they are keeping everything in house untill they have their man or men to fill the 2 roles , and depending on who is our manager we will then know how much they will spend on players , if they get a top coach then he will be given the funds to get the players that will get us back on top and besides the fans thats what the owners want ,


The irony in your comment is that Klopp did have a large war chest when he took over at Dortmund.

Consequently you have missed the significance of Klopp's appointment and subsequent achievement.

This is why I suspect he is first choice. And rightly so.


 

 

26 May 2012 22:26:30
How are all my wonderful scouse friends today?

Just thought I'd pop along since I haven't been on the Liverpool page in a couple of weeks.

So, who are you guys expecting/wanting at the help to bring Liverpool back to former glory?

Which players do you want to bring in to reclaim your perch?

Who are looking to get rid of?

Lots of questions from me today :).

Anyway! enjoy your sunny weekend guys!

The Moon.


Don't get the arrogance of a manc buddy, I thought you'd have a shedful of all that after all these years


I think Roberto Martinez could well be the man to be honest apart from that the only other people I would be ecstatic with would be Bielsa , Guardiola , Klopp.

Tom.


Arrogance? not at all mate, I'm genuinely interested in all matters football and that includes you guys.

Tom, thanks for a decent response, I think Martinez will be great for you guys if you give him time, and that's the key thing here, unless you get somebody like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. which are all very doubtful then you'll have to give the new manager time to build.

Personally I don't rate Guardiola because he hasn't actually proven anything. To me he's still in the same bracket as managers like AVB, Hughes, etc.

Klopp would be an excellent choice but he's currently managing one of the best looking sides on the planet so I couldn't see him giving up that for you guys, no of offense.

If it were up to me I would appoint AVB, I think if he were to stay at Chelsea they wouldn't have won the FA Cup or UCL but 2/3 years down the line they would have a slick, young side.

If believe the same would happen to you if you signed him up. Give him a year to get settled and 2 or 3 years to complete the build of the squad.

I also think that a side that looked like this would certainly be achievable and help you play decent football:

________________Reina
Kelly______Coates____Skrtel____Enrique
________________Lucas
Torje_____________________A.Johnson
_________Sterling____Gerrard
______________Suarez

The formation is a little weird and you've still got players like Johnson and Carroll around who could easily rotate but I thing this side would honestly bring you some great football and high scorelines.

Torje: £20 Million
Johnson: £10 Million

Hardly a massive overhaul and your squad can look completely different. You could also look at having another DM such as Marcos Senna who although is reasonably old he still possesses a lot of ability and would be extremely cheap. he'll only be playing back up to Senna and could probably be gettable at around £3-£4 Million.

The Moon. {Ed022's Note - I worry about how much you know about LFC mate haha! But a good post nonetheless, and a very fair one. I'd say Senna is getting on a bit now, so perhaps another DM would be better.}


If I were on masterchef, assessing your comment, I would say that overall you are patronising, with a hint of sarcasm, the fragrance of a holier-than-thou attitude is present - but the overpowering taste of d0uchebaggery is just too much.

Also, just a side-note, it seems you have tried to venture outside your normal comfort zone - perhaps because you feel insecure after becoming 2nd in your own city, winning nothing except a glorified friendly, replacing 'greats' with average players and the fact that you are generally fading. Thus you come on here be antagonistic, and try and be smug over an 'inferior' club. Thank you for 'kind' words and we hope you hop back over to your site before more unnecessary arrogance spews forth.

Au Revoir!

(Not So) Jolly Red


Jolly Red - shut up. If you can't take an outside view on your team then you really do need help.

I don't really have much feeling towards Liverpool but unlike you guys I respect your heritage, tradition and what you stand for as a club. obviously I can't say that you feel the same.

However I do apologize if that's how I came across, that wasn't my intention. in my OP I was just trying to brighten the place up, everywhere seems to be full of doom and gloom lately.

ED22 - Well, most of the guys on the United page know I'm a football fan before a United fan (If United didn't exist I would have football but if Football didn't exist I would still have Getafe (my hometown club)). so yeah, I like to learn as much as a I can about over teams even if I don't like them haha.

As for the DM, I personally still think Senna has a lot to offer, prizing him from Spain would be difficult though. But let's just say that he's to old, who else would there be? Personally I would look at;

Markus Henriksen - He's one of my favourite up and coming players, brilliant DM and I think he can go above and beyond Lucas...

Sahin - I'm not sure he would leave Madrid for anything other than UCL football. Great defensively and welll he could be the next Alonso.

Felipe Melo - Personally I don't rate him but he's done well this year and it's quite hard to find top players who would leave their clubs but not play UCL football, it's a shame really because the history of Liverpool should be an attraction in itself.

The Moon.


Read the last weeks posts then... maffer


 

 

26 May 2012 22:25:05
preety cool to see Roy doesnt have any hard feelings toward our present Liverpool team. even if his team was boring atleast they won and ill take that everytime espcially for england who just in general have a problem winning.

glad to see kelly (about ten mins) , henderson (20 some minutes) and carroll (all 90) all tries in the squad. plus the usualls of gerrard and downing (who should have done much better but ohwell)

15 and canadian


 

 

26 May 2012 22:17:26
Even when the Warrior deal kicks in the revenue will not reach £200m.


 

 

26 May 2012 22:14:09
Noticed on odds checker that on most betting websites that Brendan Rodgers is now favourite for the Liverpool job


And what's your point ? they change odds to get gullible people to put money on. the bookies, like the press have no idea


 

 

26 May 2012 22:11:41
Watched England and Eurovision song contest:( My one loves it we've had a bet on the Russian grannies:)))
Back to the footy big Andy did ok; Good luck to Woy hope he does well. Oh and all our lads were ok, anywat saturdays are drinks night.
kidmillions


 

 

26 May 2012 22:10:37
Don't know why we don't just show some intent and go and ask to speak to mourinho give him what he wants money wise (within reason and keeping us legal for Europe) champions league guaranteed within a season so money spent covered job do don't care press say he'w not completely happy at Madrid.
{Ed002's Note - He has just agreed a new deal.}


 

 

26 May 2012 21:43:52
Gerrard was a great attacking threat against Norway today. Had a few mishaps but we looked composed with him in the midfield rather than Barry. Downing was poor. He would get wide but wouldn't cross the ball in meaning Carroll didn't have much to attack. Carroll was good, however, he was great at flicking on but there was no one trying to get on the end of his flick ons. Henderson only played 10-15 mins but still showed that he was better than Barry and Milner. Not enough time to get a true reflection on Kelly's performance.

BthekingB


Looked like carroll turned hiself into a CAM that game because young was always ahead of himm looking for the pass.....


 

 

26 May 2012 21:38:09
The Red Knight consortium valued Man Utd at £1 billion. Commercial valuations are in the main based on the business revenue stream against an industry recognised multiplier, which can range anywhere between 2 and 4 depending n factors associated with the business. With utds revenues hovering around the £375 mill mark, it's clear that the Red Knight consortium felt 2.5 to be appropriate.

Now, it could be argued that we are very much similar to Utd in terms of history, global fan base, potential merchandising etc. etc, all the commercial factors you would consider in valuing a football club. Granted they get bigger gate receipts, but that's relative.

Firstly then, on the basis that our revenues hover around the £200 to £235 mill currently, it is clear that FSG got a steal at £300 mill acquisition price, H&G in my opinion do have a call regarding their 'epic swindle' claim.

In no doubt an outfit of venture capitalists want to turn their investment from £300mill to £1 bill by building a 70,000 sweater stadium, achieving champions league football and increasing revenues to that of Utds.

In order to justify that level of capital value hey will need to be successful, they will need a 70000 sweater stadium and they will need a sensible and solid management regime.

Bearing in mind the drive to invest in 20 year olds and youth I would speculate that FSG have a 5-7 year plan. With that in mind, surely their decision in management is imperitave to them and has to be right. Why would they take such a massive gamble on Martinez? Wouldnt Goadiola tick the project boxes?

We remain in europes top ten of revenue earning football clubs without champions league football. It's as clear as the days long that we are a venture capitalists speculative dream, so why would FSG wish to take such a gamble on an unproven manager with a modest playing career? I'm trying to be optimistic here, which is unusual for me but you never know we maybe pleasantly surprised in the forthcoming 2 weeks.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - Liverpool revenues have never been to £200M and you need to remember that the club has been running at a loss for years and recent years has seen that grow considerably. Manchester United are running at a significant profit with a value in the order of £1.5B. It is not comparing like for like - think of similar property in different areas costing very different amounts. A two bedroomed house in Hull might be worth £100k in Hull but £400k in Windsor. This is simply an analogy and I realise taht both Liverpool and Manchester are in the north.}


This is so much of the same old same old from ozone so I it is not worth the
effort to point out the inconsistencies here,though Ed002 has the patience to begin the process . But the only thing I will bother with is why does the manager need to have had a succesfull playing career? Surely we don't have to reel off the list?

Puzzled


My apologies, the revenues shoud've been quoted in euros but given current exchange rates thir not a million miles away. The capitalisation aspect is based on standard accounting, Liverpool have been running at a loss through extraordinary costs associated with stadium costs and compensation packages. That a side, no doubt FSG will be happy with the clubs typical accounting. I feel you can draw a synergy with Utd on a standard accounting basis, the £1.5 bill valuation is an expression of opinion by an independent valuer, not an offer. I don't think FSG will have ignored Utd as a benchmark model. To me an analogy could be to say that utd are a 4 bed detached house and we're a 2 bed bungalow on a plot where it's capable of demolishing the bungalow and building a 4 bed detached house of similar size.

Ozone


Feel free to point out the inconsistencies puzzled.

Ozone


A '70000 sweater stadium'?
Wow, that'll need alot of grannies.

Redjinal


And for the record puzzled, I'm not denouncing Martinez, I'm on the fence with him at the moment. He endeavours to play attractive attacking football but I'm unsure as to whether the jump would be to much or him.

I'm questioning him from FSG's angle given the project they seem to have in mind. I would've thought they'd go for an off he shelf product to get us back into the ham pions league and create the desired culture at the club.

Ozone


United may have a valued at £1.5m but after deducting interest payment the profits on their massive turnover is not that significant, one that would not interest British investers. That is why the Glaziers are trying a partial float on the Singapore Stock Exchange
Bobbinred


Well, to start, Martinez hasn't been named yet, so you're premise is flawed. Assuming he is, then I think it's fair to say that's because the owners do in fact feel he's the right person for the job out of those that are available and actually want it. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't appoint a manager they think will fail as that wouldn't make much sense.

RDL


Ozone

"Liverpool have been running at a loss through extraordinary costs associated with stadium costs and compensation packages"

But you cannot overlook the extraordinary profit made on Torres' transfer during the same period...that profit, thought to be in the region of £40m in accounting terms, surely cancells out a lot of the extraordinary costs you mentioned?

Gav {Ed002's Note - The £50M raised on Torres was taken in to account and the club still made a £50M loss because the buying of Suarez and Carroll and the running costs of teh club are also taken in to account.}


 

 

26 May 2012 21:33:10
Jesus, was my post 19.44 a waste of time or what?

Puzzled


 

 

26 May 2012 21:26:30
this summer is make or break for us. If we don't spend big this summer to make a push for the top 4 we will lose are best players and it will be a long way back. We have all seen what happend to leeds and i dont want that to happen to us. Surely when these people bought us they knew you cannot compete without spending a lot of money.


 

 

26 May 2012 21:25:46
Not meaning to sound like one of these whingers, I just think Rodgers would be such a risk. Done great at Swansea, but the team and style at Swansea has been largely inherited from a certain Spaniard.

His managerial record prior has not been great, and just feel that if we get him we could get RM, just don't understand it (if it happened)

If it happens then I will support and hope for the best, but still want a top name that signal LFC intent, and who will attract some top names, if not I really like not just the way Wigan play but also the way RM built a good footballing brand at Swansea. Live in S Wales and done a few financial stuff with Swansea players, and believe me Jeff Jenkins their chairman really bought into and that is now the swansea way. and the more i think of it the more i think yes, RM could be just what we need. A actual long term plan about how we play.

Sorry to go on but the England game is boring the life out of me.

redphil


Somehow i don't think it will be rodgers


 

 

26 May 2012 21:17:05
Where has all this Renia nonsense come from? Anyone actually know something solid rather than someone who told someone who used to go there with someone who takes the players there oranges ?

G BOX {Ed022's Note - Reina has had a very poor season which will always lead to speculation of unhappiness etc.}


 

 

26 May 2012 21:16:52
Hi ed's

dont know if your watching the game, but do u have any info on number 10 for norway, he's urinating om bains with his speed and skill {Ed022's Note - It's funny you should say that, I was thinking the same thing. I will do a little research into him and see what I can find.}


Funny!

i found out he's playing for Fredrikstad in tippeligaen, as captain.
has a past in Herenveen

must be cheap!

good value for money if he always plays like that!
Hope some scouts were at the game today


8 goals in 10 games this season.

Looks impressive to say the least.

BthekingB


 

 

26 May 2012 21:09:42
Rob green on a free anyone? {Ed022's Note - Malaga look favourites to get his signature last time I checked.}


 

 

26 May 2012 21:02:18
We need to face the fact now that we aren't the force we see ourselves as
All the players we are interested in have the option of Utd, Chelsea and City (all in better situations than us and have money)

All these people saying Maxi out! Cole out! Aqualani out! Can I point out we have European football this year and we ain't gonna get far with European football virgins like Adam, spearing, downing, Henderson, Carroll..... We need to keep our experience all three fore mentioned are good player!

And unless we get a good manager and we stick with him; because some of you may not agree but we are in a state and need rebuilding! We aren't gonna do that great
And with news of Reina requesting to leave who else will follow!?

**54D13R** (my posts are always positive UNTIL today!) :(


Why not give Rafa a one year contract? See how he does? There are no better candidates available. If you give the job to R.F or B.R how long will it take them to get competitive in Champions league? Five years? Ten? Rafa was a control freak, played uninspiring football and messed up with Alonso but he was absolutely brilliant in the Champions League and built a fair team in the premiership. It would be better to get a last hurrah out of Gerrard, Reina etc rather than rebuild all over again and be waiting years for a decent side.
Also, what if Martinez, Rodgers, AVB, whoever, what if they turn out to be a total disaster? At least you know what you're gonna get with Benitez (positive and negative). We'd be competitive and well organised at the very least. I say give him twelve months and see where we are. No 3million compo needed either.
Mantis


 

 

26 May 2012 20:53:11
I posted earlier today about Brendan Rodgers becoming our new head coach,& said the story would likely break early next week.
Well,it seems it's leaked out earlier than I expected.
Twitter's going crazy on him meeting FSG in the States,and the bookies have got him as the new fav for the job.
As I said earlier,I would expect him to be appointed in the next 7-10 days.

The Mole


Twitter lol, come back with a real source sunshine


 

 

26 May 2012 20:48:27
Few questions for Macca regarding some points raised on here, interested in your opinion.
Firstly what is the likelihood of Suarez leaving? I can understand why, but would still be gutted! Also are you aware of any senior players handing in a transfer request? Lastly do you have any info regarding possible candidates for senior positions at the club, excluding the manager more the likes of DOF?

Jim


 

 

26 May 2012 20:38:22
I know that bookies usually talk a load of s**t but why has Rodgers gone from 33/1 to 2/1 in a matter of days? Also what's the situation with Reina?

TheConfusedRed YNWA


Pep and Klopps odds have come in as well. Rodgers is simply because he is going to america on hols and 2 + 2 has made 5.

I'll get behind anyone. but would prefer RM to BR


I believe it is because the media are saying that FSG want to talk to Rodgers and the fact that the media have being saying Martinez hasn't been offered the job seems to suggest that they don't want to give Martinez the job.

BthekingB


I believe now copa is won by Barca Guardiola will now be on holiday also in America, wait for the rumours! Eds, I am sure you can confirm his holiday plans too? It is according to press and tv. {Ed002's Note - He has an interview in Wigan to deal with first.}


 

 

26 May 2012 20:35:28
Hi Ed's
With Brendan Rodgers odds having been slashed to odds on with some bookies. Is there anything in it do you think?Or the bookies just trying to drum up a bit of income?
Many thanks
AL {Ed002's Note - Their odds will reflect where the money is being placed.}


Thanks for your reply Ed,Many Thanks
AL


 

 

26 May 2012 20:18:42
That Andy Carroll seems like a descent player.

Damien


Descent? Do you mean he falls down a lot?

Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - Obviously not Chris. He means he plays better going down hill.}


On his way down?


He will look better when he has left winger and a right winger in the team. Instead of Downing on the right, stopping, cutting in and crossing from deep.


He's a very good player and you'll see a mighty approved Carroll and Henderson next season.


 

 

26 May 2012 20:04:14
Stop the BS people, no one has handed in a transfer request


 

 

26 May 2012 20:01:31
Brenden Rodgers now bookies favourite for manegers job.


Could that be because they want your money


 

 

26 May 2012 19:49:17
Just watching utv and peter reid says ''stewart downing is about 22/23 so he'll start to come into his prime'' LOL, Downing is about 28


I like Peter Reid :)


He's a Liverpool fan too :)


You saw his actual prime this season lol

Pardoe


Maybe Peter Reid, is a bit of a "dreamer", seems many LFC FANS are nowadays!>


He's not a red

DaveyBootle


 

 

26 May 2012 19:44:49
just a quick question, who would a transfer request be handed to? cos we have no manage no dof, not many other people at the mo


No one, Reina will have to sit outside the manager office and wait for one to arrive haha


 

 

26 May 2012 19:40:15
It looks like there is a lot of money gone on Rodgers, I'm at the stage now where I just want them to get it sorted, but if we are considering Rodgers and Martinez I think it would have to be Martinez. Rodgers didn't do it at Reading and got sacked and now he has a swansea team playing well but Martinez laid the foundations at Swansea! I really hope FSG are trying hard to get Klopp and pull out all the stops but if they can't get him I'll support whoever comes in! DubRed


The bookies haven't got a clue


That maybe the case but there might be something in the sudden surge on rodgers!


 

 

26 May 2012 19:39:34
Good Luck Roy! Never was going to work out here but seems a genuine bloke and wish him well on his Euro adventure.

Just make sure a channel 4 tv crew aren't following you around.... Thinking cloughie for gazza!


Dirks Engine Room


 

 

26 May 2012 19:38:02
Hi macca, you said klopp was our first choice and Rodgers second, is this still the case? Or is Rodgers now first?

Thanks
Lee


 

 

26 May 2012 19:32:59
Eds, just a quick question about Macca's post.
He says: "They really WANTED Klopp if he can be persuaded"
Do you think he means the owners wanted Klopp but have now given up because he can not be persuaded or do you think wants to say that the owners STILL want him and try to persuade him?

Please give your opinion because sometimes Macca's spelling can cause a little bit of confusion.

Cheers

Phil {Ed002's Note - My recollections are that Macca's spelling is just fine. It would be best to ask him for clarification but from my perspective I remain of the opinion that Klopp is not a likely manager of Liverpool any time soon.}


 

 

26 May 2012 19:32:35
allrite macca is it true someone has handed in a transfer request an if so do you no who it is nice one
louis d


 

 

26 May 2012 18:59:54
Opinions...
Never could understand the hatred for Owen. After all this is professional football and he always was and still is - very professional. Tried to get back to us many times, including when he became free after Newcastle. Rafa didn't want him again, despite pleas from Gerro and Carra, Rush, and Kenny. Even Fowler voiced his support. Previously, Rick Parry has personally requested him to take Owen and promised to back him financially for this in full. Nevertheless Rafa has made it a personal issue between them, since he has made an effort and went all the way to England camp to try to persuade Gerro and Owen to stay at the club when he took over. Owen, after 8 years, wanted to see the world a bit. I do not consider this to be a crime. Turned out to be a mistake and he has paid for it in full. I would give him the chance to finish his career with us. And he only gained even more prestige in playing for Manu. It only shows what a quality player he still is. I welcome OBJECTIVE opinions please.
-=Solar=-


Well 'objective' or not he did go to Old Trafford AND made comments along the lines of 'the best club etc etc' so that really closes the door doesn't it?

Puzzled


Owen can would not be welcome at this club anymore. That is my objective opinion.


VM YNWA


Didnt he do nothing but pull the club down when he joined man utd? CRAIG


Owen is finished and has been for years. Fergie only took him to United to rile Liverpool. I feel sorry for the lad, could have been an all time great but, in all honesty, who would you prefer next season as a bit part forward, Owen or Sterling?
Mantis


I say this on behalf of the majority reading this..no thanks.


Ferguson finished his England career. He must look back a think if he was still at Liverpool or Newcastle then he'd of deffinatly got more games and been in the eye of England.
In my opinion he would still be in the England squad.
Ferguson signed him so no one else could and never played him even when he was fully fit.
The medals he gained from UTD he diddnt earn.
Yet his still comes out with stupid comments that disrespects former clubs that paid his wages even when lengthy sickness.
For his lack of respect and the fact his thinks he's greater than pele, I hope he ends up at Blackpool or Tranmere, just to bring him back to earth.


 

 

26 May 2012 19:06:40
Quick prediction for the England game:
Parker (who I refuse to call "Scotty") will spend all game in his own half and under no pressure will constantly insist on having the ball from his own defenders who are ten yards away only to turn and pass sideways or forwards ten yards while still under no pressure. In other words he'll be completely unnecessary defensively and completely inaffective in attack.
Then he'll probably be named man of the match


Couldn't be more right mate!


He's also someone who is defensively intelligent, he can read the play, block passes, make tackles, make direct passes, run's across the pitch constantly, he's an all round good defensive midfielder, he's the kind of player people want in their team, slows the play down, lets people create space, and he can open up the game with great pases, he's a good player, unappreciated i think.

Carb


Sorry, forgot to sign my post

Chris in Tamworth


Did you really just say Parker can "read the play, block passes, make tackles, make direct passes, run's across the pitch constantly"?
I play with lads on a Sunday morning who do all these things. Surely these are minimum requirements for a professional?

Chris in Tamworth


Scott Parker is quality.

Ash


I think he is sh!te! Always giving a way fouls. A liability!


 

 

26 May 2012 19:06:22
Macca your Rodgers information is looking more and more promising! If it happens, surely people will finally believe you!
Even if it doesn't this proves there's something in it!

CHickey.


 

 

26 May 2012 18:50:48
Whenever I get a bit fed up with the mess at Liverpool at the moment, I look at this line up and think, if we can get even 5 of these players through we'll be alright for the next 5/7 years.

-------------- Gulacsi --------------
Kelly - Coates - Sama - Robinson
--------------- Coady ---------------
---------- Teixeira -- Suso ---------
-- Sterling --- Bueno* --- Silva --

SUBS: Ward, Flanagan, Wisdom, Bijev, Morgan, Adorjan, Ngoo

There is some incredible talent there. We need to do a 'Barcelona' on it and find a manger brave enough and talented enough to bring these players through. I think Martinez or Klopp would take the risk.

-Shane.

*Presuming Bueno will be signed if he hasn't been already.....I don't know the in's and out's of this deal.


That many forwards on the bench? :-))
-=Solar=-


N'goo was released i think. bijev i doubt will get recalled from his loan as a work permit is an issue. also i would play flanno ahead of sama but they all have potential and they can be great all be it at liverpool or elsewhere
derryred


 

 

26 May 2012 18:33:29
laudrup is working with Liverpool & is helping John on football side of things he will eventually be Livrpool manager ( not sure why not this time , maybe they want somone who has premier league experience )

Martinez will be next manager as he will not demmand huge stars

K.O.B


We need huge stars


 

 

26 May 2012 18:22:31
Haven't posted anything on here before, but I just can't help feeling that there is going to be a big surprise when it comes to appointing the management team, what do you think edd? {Ed002's Note - I am staying a reasonable distance from this issue.}


Come on Ed, this isn't like you!
Gentleman explorer, international playboy, part time spy and man of mystery afraid of a few clueless dissenting voices!
Come on what's your opinion on who will get the Liverpool job

Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - You forgot Rodeo Clown.}


I didn't forget rodeo clown, that's the one and only occupation I think you're telling porkies about!
Come on, take an educated guess!

Chris in Tamworth


I agree with the Ed's comment on OP comment. The management team is hot potato and hot topic right now and a lot of people take what the Ed's say as 'god's word' or 'written gospel' and they come under a barrage of abuse when it doesnt happen. The Ed's do a lot of hard work on here, people should appreciate them a lot more.

Carb


I think EDoo2 is afraid of naming one David Moyes

Puzzled


 

 

26 May 2012 18:22:40
Brendan Rodgers Now 11/8 with
6 betting shops on oddschecker


Lyndon


What odds are Bonetez?


You Haunting me on that one!!


So , whats the point ?


 

 

26 May 2012 18:21:57
Laudrup to be named in the next 24 hours, DOF Van Gal after owners patince runs out with Rodgers,

Paper Pusher


That would be great


That would be bloody amazing! I hope to god its true.


 

 

26 May 2012 18:18:13
I seen this posted on the page from early this morning, Just wondering if anyone (Ed/Macca) knows anything about it because it seems to fit in perfectly with Kenny been sacked. Could Suarez be sold this summer?


''Kenny was sacked because he went back on his promise to sell Suarez this summer, FSG/Henry want rid of him becuase of the damage he done with our sponsors after the Evra incident. Kenny agreed to sell him but when he went to Boston for his end of season review he told FSG he wanted to keep Suarez and that FSG had to either back him or sack him, They sacked him, Ant manager coming in now, Most likely Martinez, Will be told from the start that Suarez is not part of the plans. Antonio Conte and Alegro Allesio from Juventus were caught on camera at the Urugauy/Russia match last night.''

Graham


Yeah i was watching the match last night and the camera showed Conte and Alessio in the crowd, Looks like Suarez could be off, Im not really to bothered if he leaves, Trouble just seems to follow him around, Paul.


Good riddance.


Suarez can leave for all i care, Too much controversey for such a young player, He bit a player, spit a player, cheated a country, made gestures to fans and we all know what he said to Evra, i say get him out and take the 20m for him


£20million?? And the rest!!


20 million?? We paid 23 million for him..

Some people are clueless.

He shouldn't leave, we'll regret it big time. We need our best players to stay ffs.

Unbelievable how many of yous are accepting it so easily.......
{Ed022's Note - £22.5 million to be pedantic.}


Your a fool.


You carnt be an lfc fan spouting that she*p


 

 

26 May 2012 18:10:39
OK this could be a long post so strap yourselves in...

I'd just like to reason out a few things.

FSG have said nothing to the media whatsoever about new managerial contenders. The only names in the media are media created or from Dave Whelan so for everyone saying they're doing it appallingly or haven't got a clue your only info on this is being generated by tabloids or talksport to generate sales revenue.

For everyone saying the club is in dissarray because we have no one in charge. J w Henry is in charge. Tom Werner is in Charge. Ian Sure is our chief exec, jen Chang is our new PR director and the guy who helped seal the single most valuable football kit sponsorship deal in history is our new chief operating officer. Until Commoli we never had a DOF and I don't recall anyone screaming for one until he left (even though he did appallingly in my opinion). Steve Clarke is in charge of team affairs for the time being, the scouting network is still in place and the academy and melwood are both still business as usual. So that means we are looking for 1. A new manager, and 2 a new head of sport science.

So to the management situation. I've seen a huge amount of bile spread recently about who we should or shouldn't get in because LFC is a huge club. Wrong. LfC is a hugely supported club that finished 8th in its domestic league last season and hasn't topped that league in 2 decades. Yes there is a lot of potential but potential won't bring the likes of Europe's elite managers. That's lets face it who everyone would like, I hear people saying we need a manager who has experience winning things, well in this country that would amount to Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho, Dalglish, Wilkinson and Mancini. We had Dalglish, Mourinho costs 15m per Annunciation, Wilkinson I think is currently dribbling ina retirement home and would you really want SAF or Wenger? No. Some say Pep Guardiola, 1 he's not going anywhere but realistically is he proven anywhere outside the bubble of narcs and without 8 of the best 11 players in the world? We are not in a position to prise Loop, Biesla or De Boer out of successful, established positions and anyone else of the 50-60 year old bracket like Cappello or Sven would be coming for money rather than the chancebto build the next generation of success of Liverpool. Realistically we are where United were 30 years ago. A hugely historical club with a massive fanbase and the opportunity to rebuild. They appointed a relatively unknown chap from Scotland that had won bugger all. Arsenal got a bloke that had been managing a tiny club in Japan and Chelsea went and got a guy on 1 years success in a 2 club league that went on a good European cup run. Be honest we need someone that first is willing to come, and secondly has the ability to grow and be with the club hopefully for the next 2 decades. Dalglish was never that man, he probably should never have carried on after his emergency 6 months and left on a high when FSG wanted to implement this new structure, but everyone went with sentimentality and now look where we are. Reconising where and what we are is what the Americans are doing. If they think Martinez, Rodgers or whoever else they appoint is the best man for LFC I will gladly jump on board because the last thing he will need is the kind of abuse from us that could poison next season from the start. None of us are managers or football club owners so lets support OUR CLUB and stop trying to 2nd guess what's going on until something happens

YNWA
FATJANMOLBY


Excellent post mate. Totally agree with you.
KJS


Excellent post, couldn't agree more


Well said. Completly agree. I'm sure some people just click disagree for the sake of it.


Brilliant post, it seems everyone needs the "names" to be at Liverpool, everyone starts somewhere, if it's Martinez so be it were all in this together so let's support him.

G BOX


Ah the sweet smell of truth. Excellent post FATJAN, truthful and incisive, but i fear you will now have to strap yourself in and be ready for the IRWT brigade to vent their venom and spite in your direction. I wish you well in the next few hours :-)

Irish Red Fan


I'd be happy with Mourinho just mumbling. £15m per annunciation is taking the biscuit.


Brilliant Mate!
NextGenRed


Best post for quite a while

Puzzled


Terrific post mate. Well said. I vowed not to post anymore rumors but, I can say with confidence that FSG have a very good long term plan for the club and it doesn't involve spending 100mil on players in every transfer window. I also know that they didn't want to sack Kenny and he was not supposed to be sacked, but he left them no choice really when he started to give ultimatums...
-=Solar=-


Sorry about the spelling. Annunciation obviously should be Annum, Loop Kloop etc... Auto correct ofrom writing it on the phone

Thanks for the replies.
FatJanMolby


Excellent post.

The way a club that has fallen from grace (Dortmund and Juventus a few years ago) rises back up is by being smarter than others, not by recycling tired old faces. Through youth and innovation.

That is also what Dortmund and Juventus did, and they are now the best teams in their leagues by a comfortable margin.


Whilst I agree with the sentiment of this let's not pretend that Man Utd went and got someone who had "won bugger all". Mr Ferguson had one three league titles in 5 years and had won the Cup Winners Cup beating real Madrid in the final. All for Aberdeen... let me say that again... Aberdeen!

The point for me is that Howard Wilkinson was the last person to win the league title as a manager having not previously won the league in another country or in this country previously.

Wenger won in France with Monaco, Mancini in Italy, Ancelotti in Italy, Mourinhon in Portugal etc etc

Naming a manager who has not proved themselves at the top top level, somewhere, remains a risk. I'd support them wholeheartedly but they would still be a risk.


 

 

26 May 2012 18:08:15
This is why we should get Rafa back

Rafael Benitez - Champions League Hero | 2004-2009 | HD

Jamo


Rafa Benitez, who won the Champions League with another manager's team, technically, and got his tactics woefully wrong in the first half.

Rafa Benitez, who stubbornly, refused to start the second highest scorer of the 06-07 Champions League campaign in the Final.

Rafa Benitez, who blew the chance of being immortalized by going on an unnecessary RANT against Satan's lovechild, thus placing unnecessary pressure on his players.

Rafa Benitez, who went from 2nd place to 7th and from 86pts to 63.

He brought some good times and memories and i accept those shouldn't be forgotten, but, and this is important, he added more fuel to his own downfall than the blinkered care to admit.
The day he get's another job somewhere, and i hope he does, will be a good day for Liverpool F.C. Why? because then people may just start to look towards the future and not this continuous yearning for the past. Get over it, remember Rafa was quick to take the Inter job a whole 2 days after he left Liverpool. Does anyone not find it strange nobody seems to want Rafa after the mess he made there?

Irish Red Fan


Time to move forward kid..


Well said Irish Red!

This 'Benitez brigade' will make the job for the new manager near on impossible...

Stone YNWA.


 

 

26 May 2012 17:54:37
Rodgers is in the USA this weekend. I have to believe that FSG will take this opportunity to have a chat with him.
Mark {Ed002's Note - You appreciate it is a large place. I will be in the USA at the end of next week - do you expect them to call me?}


Come have a cheesesteak in philadelphia while you're here...mmmmm

phillyred


If Ed02 gets the job I think we should all get behind him/her despite the lack of trophies on the cv.


Come have a cheesesteak in philadelphia while you're here...mmmmm

phillyred


FSG are known to be interested in Rodgers, who is supposedly going to be in New Jersey for the Wales-Mexico friendly. NJ and Boston are quite close, and the flight to Miami isn't too far either if Henry is still there. It is not unreasonable to think that FSG would use this opportunity to talk to Rodgers.
Mark {Ed002's Note - If they want to talk to Rodgers they will have no problems doing so. Maybe they will be caught on the big screen interviewing him. }


Why not ED002 for manager if you all ready have not ruled yourself out like most of the others


Ed 2 is your name roberto

redphil


Ed002 i would be delighted with you as manager


Ed2, what part are you visiting?
AnfieldUSA {Ed002's Note - I will be in Washington DC and around the Beltway.}


That's Actally withing driving distance. Watch out, im coming;)
AnfieldUSA {Ed002's Note - They let you drive? I am from the West Coast of course but need to go to DC annually to get some paperwork dealt with. Other than that I try and avoid it.}


Some parts of New England are pretty, and then there's Manhattan, of course.

Other than than, Northeast of US nothing to write home about. DC is a soulless swamp: everyone is a laywer, lobbyist, or intern to one.


 

 

26 May 2012 17:49:16
doesn't ed 002 seem a lot mellower since last saturday wonder why ;-)


 

 

26 May 2012 17:44:21
The only info i have is the what i posted last week..

They really wanted Klopp if he can be persuaded, if not Rodgers was there other choice..

Clearly they have also spoken to Martinez..

Obviously i would love Guardiola but have no idea sorry.. You never know..

Cheers

Macca


 

 

26 May 2012 17:29:41
I'm not ITK but there has been a flood of money on the betting exchanges within the last hour for Brendan Rodgers to be next LFC manager. Someone obviously thinks they know something!

Clayali


 

 

26 May 2012 17:11:25
Macca, there's a guy on another forum claiming to be an advisor to FSG. He states that Martinez/LVG are FSG fav's for the job/s. he been quite informative with his posts.

Also states that Laudrup is onboard with FSG giving them the football advise,also claims it was him who advise FSG to buy LFC and that he (Laudrup) is (and Laudrup knows this) plan B if they cannot find an ideal manager.

Now you have contacts inside the team etc. does any of this add up? Or is this guy pulling everyone's chain?

Lee73


Where's this forum mate?

Burnsy


Laudrap won't be a bad choice for DOF. But to me what you are saying is kind of BS.

Cheers
Armando


Not sure about the Laudrup connection mate, sorry..

The only info i have is the what i posted last week..

They really wanted Klopp if he can be persuaded, if not Rodgers was there other choice..

Obviously i would love Guardiola but have no idea sorry.. You never know..

Cheers

Macca


Armando, look on the link I posted and make your own mind up..
Lee73


 

 

26 May 2012 16:58:30
Heard that John Henry spoke with Brendan Rodgers on the phone today.. Don't know how it went though. As everyone reported he met with Martinez in Miami. Klopp not ruled out yet either.


 

 

26 May 2012 16:46:35
Just been looking at some Wigan Stats and they have made an averageproffit of £479,000 per year on transfer dealings over the last 8 years. So Wigan have not really had any money to spend. They also had the second lowest attendance in the Leage behind QPR. This just shows the size of the club Martinez has managed to keep in the premier league. If he'd had 100 million pounds or so to spend on players I doubt he'd have been battling relegation. He deserves a chance, give the guy a break if he gets the job.


Nope - just not good enough


Sorry, but you are deluded, who is good enough for a fair cup team who finished below the bitters?


Paul Jewell and Steve Bruce managed higher league finishes at Wigan so would you suggest either of those to manage us?


How well do you think Pep Guardiola would have done at wigan? I would rather watch a Martinez team than a Paul Jewel Team or a Steve Bruce team. Wigan have lost alot of there best players since they left. It's not easy for a team like Wigan to keep finding good players on the cheap. It doesn't make Steve Bruce a better manager because he finished higher in the league than Martinez. The situation will change every season. Some teams get rich benifactors and climb the league table others have a bit of luck. How well do you think Steve Bruce would have done at Wigan this season?


This debate just dont stand. I DONT KNOW HOW ? HOW ? HOW? ANYONE LIKE MARTINEZ DESERVES A CHANCE?

just like hodgson did? haven't we learn the lesson? the mistake of giving hodgson a chance?

the thing shocks me is, its not the 1st time , like we are not barca that our great manager has left us now lets have a new challenge like, its been 3-4 F..king years , we are getting deep in deep itn this mediocrity cycle. need to go big this time, this time no chance no risk , we must must go for a proven, name with a winning habit n name in Europe ,


Different Manding a team with all our historical baggage and everyone trying to sell us overpriced players. Wigan could always pick up a player of two as they were never gonna win anything, therefore Martinez was buying at face value. Honestly don't know if he could operate in a different world but if FSG back him ten so should we all. His overall football philosophy is top notch. For me Rodgers is OK but benefitted greatly from a job already done by Matinez at Swansea


 

 

26 May 2012 16:43:16
Our new head coach is almost certain to be Brendan Rodgers.
Despite the public rejection and the denials,he has infact spoken to senior members of FSG.
I would expect news to filter out about the meeting early next week,and fully expect him to be appointed within the next 7-10 days.

The Mole


 

 

26 May 2012 15:56:19
JH has been in office all day (saturday)and has apparently been talking about championship manager (the game) he wants to have a better understanding of management.

Avb still getting the job but bizarrely JH wanted to ask him if he had a good record on the game. Lerner talked him out of it but things are a bit weird here. Someone said that JH got his cock out but that would not be like him so i don't believe it.


That JH!
He's such a card in't he.....


Great post. made me laugh :D


Are you bugging his office or are you his secretary.


 

 

26 May 2012 15:36:07
Hi eds...

I know they are just rumours but if we were to get Martinez would u b happy with the appointment?

And as for the idiots already criticising Martinez what kind of fans are u we were known as the best fans in the league not the fans who get on their managers back when things don't go well

Remember what YNWA stands for.

Let's support fsg and the new management team whoever it may be. If its Martinez good luck to him and I hope he proves all u doubters out there wrong

Lfc 4 life


Your the kind of fan who blindly supported our chairmen and managers, who never got to grips with the finacial side of football, never built a stadium and stood back and watched whilst our rivals man u stole our crown!! you go on 'supporting' mate, in your sheepish yes man way, but i'm not gonna just accept whatever dross these clueless tits give us as a manager, we are liverpool fc for gods sake! get some backbone you bloody surf!

milts


Well said Milts.


That was a little like Liverpool this season.
There is no doubting the intent, the work ethic is there, the style is flamboyant, the build up was elegant, but just as the killer blow seemed likely, it was let down in the final word.

That said, I can't see what the problem is with FSG.
What have they done to deserve such vitriol - they haven't even chosen a manager yet f.g.s.


Milts ur quite a funny guy but I think u forget before fsg took over we were hour away from administration. But then again u should know seeing as u only can see the negatives they are our clubs owners deal with it the are here to make a success of the club so let them do their jobs u know the people who already have a successfull sports franchise.

Il support my club through thick and thin and will support whoever the manager is will get my full support if Stevie g can back martinez who are we to disagree that's our clubs captain.


FSG did pull us away from adminastration but it must be said that they did get us on the cheap and there was offers from others ( argueble better ones).
However I can see how they are trying to reduce outgoings and building a team to bring in the most incomings.
Remember Liverpool is a multimillion pound business that has the protential to massive.
The Americans are and will make Liverpool a bigger world stage business success because that's what they do.
They bought the club for £300 mill and there 10year plan is to treble its value. I think they can do it.


I would bet you have never been to Anfield.Why talk about getting to grips with the financial side of football.Football is about passion,supporting LFC is about passion,a special kind of passion.While those like yourself are spouting nonsense about finances real fans will be shouting our team on because we love them,shouting them on no matter who the owners,the manager ,the captain maybe because no matter what IT IS OUR CLUB OUR TEAM AND OUR LOVE.

ps United did not build a new ground!

Derek


Derek your talking from the fans point of view which I totally agree.
FSG are business men first and foremost and their job is to make money.
Long gone are the days when chairmen by out of love of the club.
They have to restructure the spine within the club ( the bit you don't see), to a successful team.
For our club to be successful then it starts within and branches out.
As a fan I used to go to anfield regular but now I don't so much. This doesn't mean I love the club less because infact I love it even more.
If FSG get it right ( I think they will) then you'll will see your new stadium ( or redeveloped anfield) and you'll see more advertisments, more money for players and better coaching facilities etc etc.


I am not an economist,but you have to agree that no one,apart from players and managers,makes or will make any money by investing in football.
Derek


Derek
The supporters get that moment of happyness, frustration, memories, pride and the good old fashioned gossip.. Thats worth more than paper.
The rest take advantage of this and gain their pot of gold so to speak
That's business.
But in the end we all win I guess. They get bigger pots when they make bigger success and we get bigger smiles.


 

 

26 May 2012 16:08:26
lennon aint worth £18 mil


Neither is downing or henderson but we paid it for them


He's always injured.


When will people learn, hendo was £15.6 million


Henderson was £16mil no? and he is young and will grow into a CM worth way more then 16mil for sure, he is a good kid with the right attitude unlike 90% of footballers nowadays

Ska-oop


Ska-oop, i couldnt agree more, i think if you see a lot of posts about Henderson, most will say we paid a little too much for him but will almost always say 'but he has great potential and will become a great player' i agree with both statements, but i believe when Henderson gets to grips with the CM position, he'll make it his own. He's always runnin, chasin, attemptin a lot of penetratin passes, i think he'll become a great CM and England will have to take note and start selectin him.

Carb


 

 

26 May 2012 16:03:51
Hey Eds

Reports are saying Unai Emery has walked out on Valencia....Have you heard anything about Emery and Liverpool?

Thanks

Thatracoonstolemybacon {Ed002's Note - Emery is the coach of Spartak Moscow now.}


 

 

26 May 2012 16:03:09
Tell ya one thing I'm excited for next season - yes we didn't have the bet season last season too inconsistent but we have all this to come:

- new kit
- new manager
- new club directors
- new direction by FSG
- new players
- European Cup
- Lucas back
- England's captain

Guys and girls next season is going to interesting if nothing else!

Can't bloody wait!

YNWA jns


The people who disagreed seriously need to get fruit and cheer up.. Go out and get some people..

Myk


Sitting in the sun may also help.


Yeah I'm feeling really positive it'll all gel, the team and the new management set up and we'll see a new era come stormin' in, get positive guys there must be nothin worse than the negativity comin from the sidelines, they must be able to feel it and it will affect them put yourself in their boots, do you know too I think Andy will really come good, he'll be a different player, when he played against his old team Newcastle at St James' Park he got booed and slagged off, I think it finally sank in that LFC was his team now and Liverpool is his home, there is no loyalty in football once you go, you go, the penny's dropped.
stevieH


 

 

26 May 2012 16:02:24
Ed... do we have any idea who the 2nd and 3rd candidates are for the managers job? Widespread reports have linked Martinez and two others that remain in the hunt. I assume Rodgers is one if he accepts an invitation to interview, but everyone else seems to have either been ruled out or refused the approach.
Thanks in advance. {Ed002's Note - We are not hiding anything from you.}


 

 

26 May 2012 16:01:01
HI

Just want to know if there was any official statement from LFC or FSG about the new manager.

If the answer is "NO" lets wait and see.
Let the new manager come in.
Let the summer holidays take place, then the summer transfers, then the new season and lets see how well we are doing with the new man in charge.

I guess by December we should know which direction our club is moving. Then pull out all the knives and judge the success of the club.

I guess nobody knows how many points we will have on the 31/12/2012 and where we will be sitting on the log. Let the time come but "PATIENCE" first.

Finally i would just like to say support the club and manager.
Great site to all the eds and fellow posters.

YNWA-SA


 

 

26 May 2012 16:00:57
Not to sure how often he updates but on his website (www.whelansays.co.uk) Wigan chairman Dave Whelan is talking more sense about LFC that he's spoken all week...


 

 

26 May 2012 15:57:40
The comments by Guardiola are the groundwork for his announcement that he is joining another club for next season. I am sure of that.

He says "seduced" to suggest that he didn't really want to, but the devil made him do it. Nice spin.

I think it is down to ourselves and Chelsea.


Whelan's good friend Sir Alex Ferguson is said to be retiring at the end of next season.

Food for thought, if nothing else.


It down to who will pay the most wages per year. Thats what the beautiful game has become .END OF that rules us out ,we will be built on time not fianace.


 

 

26 May 2012 15:51:05
ive just thought , our new owners are doing what they do best , buisness behind closed doors quietly ,while everyone else is doing all the shouting and moaning and giving their views out , wigans owner , the papers and the fans , we have all had our say while they have got on with doing their jobs , maybe we should learn from them and trust them , as thats all we can do , i think they will do their best for our club and their buisness , you never know they might suprise a few of us ,,,,mickey b


Very true, I'm sure these Self made millionaire business men know a little more than we do, they need this investment to work for them to make money, I truly believe they will make us great again.

G BOX


 

 

26 May 2012 15:24:12
ed002 do you know what the situation with avb and the lfc job is? Is he out of the running or is he getting an interview? {Ed002's Note - I have not checked but as of a week ago there had been no approach, but one was expected. The Roma job has not come off and the job he really wanted did not become available - so unless something happens soon I suspect he may do some ad hoc coaching and look for a new job later in the season or next summer. There are still a few jobs that may well come up, but there is nothing I could tie down right now.}


 

 

26 May 2012 15:05:57
We should take a chance on Jordan Rhodes. Could be worth a shot! What do you think eds? Stemred


Might need a manager first

Hans


 

 

26 May 2012 14:58:56
Just in the university library and some bloke walks in with a united shirt on, with champions 19 on the back. Even with City winning it this year, the fact that united fans parade 19 in front of our faces irritates me so much. With all that is going on at the minute with managers etc, this has put things into perspective for me. The club has been rotting slowly for years now. FSG are looking to turn it around, and in my eyes will do so. They are business men, they will run the club like a business with a series of boardroom level positions not just on manager in over all control, this structure will take time to bed in, resultantly so progress may not be as quick as we would like. Seeing this guy in the shirt and thinking about United's 20 years of dominance, as a 21 year old lad who wasn't privileged enough o see us in our gory daysť I am perfectly content to wait for a season or two and build a system that works slowly, so that we can back into a long term position of dominance. You can't build success with longevity over night it will take time. But I am willing to wait to see it happen, and it will. Keep the faith.
SuperRedTed


Over the last 20 yeras im afraid to say it looks like united will get to 25 before we get to 20


It's great to read this from one of our younger fans. I was fortunate enough to live through the Shankly/Paisley/Fagan/Dalglish years, so have experienced the glory years first hand.
Sometimes I forget that there is a whole generation that has only seen sporadic success so have to stop myself being too hard on them with their instant demands.
However it is refreshing to hear that we do have young fans like you out there and this will ensure that the Shankly spirit is maintained for years to come. And I hope you are rewarded with a new era of dominance by the mighty reds, though we might have to sit tight and be patient for a few seasons yet!
KJS


Well said


Agree with SuperRedTed 100% and I am roughly the same age,

A problem I have is with people who cheered in 2005 now wearing Man City tops, even tho I don't believe they are proper fan's in any shape or form, by changing allegiance they hurt our club by the club selling less merchandise, this will slow our climb to the top I believe

Ska-oop


 

 

26 May 2012 14:39:56
I still feel we need to fill the DOF position first, because if we bring in the manager and the DOF does not get on with them, it could do more harm than good. With the DOF in place, he could then help advise them on the managerial position and would surely have a better chance of having a good working relationship with them.

Red4Ever


**Warning**

These are just the mumblings of a man who has had too much Sun to his head over the last week, so it could have read warming. :)

My thoughts on this matter have brought me to the conclusion that FSG have already got a DoF in place, not in an official capacity, but the preparation and ground work is being done in an almost clandestine and an occult (secret) way.

The photo op the other day with John W Henry and Roberto Martinez walking the streets of Miami, like a sunny and rich twist on midnight cowboy, wasn't an accident, that was organised.

John W Henry doesn't walk unless he wants too. Especially not when interviewing a potential employee that he knows is a very hot point of news in England and for many people Worldwide.

The photos were contrived from the start to finish, the Paparazzi would have much better photo's, they'd have the pair going into a building, coming out, they'd have the pair walking towards the camera as to get a 100% clear direct picture for all the papers the next day, or selling it to a highest bidder making it an ''Exclusive''.

It would be highly unorthodox and bordering on the unprofessional side of things. Showing a lack of respect, not taking a man seriously, showing Martinez that Mr Henry works in unprofessional and unorthodox, off the hip way etc..

That's why there are golf courses and expensive restaurants for business meetings, partner deals and top job interviews.)

Again, especially when someone has travelled across the Atlantic to have an interview.

Martinez is already the manager and the DoF, who must either lack experience in the job, the league and/or the English language. I believe is in place, again in an unofficial capacity.

I think FSG will want to do some razzmatazz, glitz and footballing glamour and sign player, whilst announcing the new manager and DoF combination in a ''New Liverpool era'' press conference.

~Comolli's dried up ink well. {Ed002's Note - Man I love this stuff - "a sunny and rich twist on midnight cowboy".}


Surely the director of football is already in place. will most likely be unveiled at the same time as the new manager


"like a sunny and rich twist on midnight cowboy".

Oh how that one line has made up for all the bile on here lately, absolutely brilliant. It's been a while since a post here made me laugh so heartily. Keep up the good work.

Cork Red Boi


 

 

26 May 2012 14:31:28
FSG bought Liverpool Football Club , not the 'boot room' .

EdWood {Ed002's Note - Man I loved your films.}


What films did EDWood make?

Is ed wood short for Edward Woodward


We all need to get back to Liverpool ways long term lets get behind who ever it is and support them, let them see, hear and feel they have our full backing. Shankly didnt do it over night. Lets gime him a CHANCE! But with us all behind hin ever step of the way.


The Boot Room Ethos disappeared when Souness was the manager.... although the
board did try to revive it when they appointed Roy Evans... anyway on FSG didnt the American Revolution start in Boston.... I think we all hope that John Henry and Co can pull the club together
after 20 0dd years of mismanagement at board room level
Deano95


I'm sure ed wood back in 50s used to make those dodgy American B movies... {Ed002's Note - Dodgy? Nifty is the word you are looking for.}


He was a joke of a director , one take and it's a rap sort of thing , creating films using a multitude of stock footage . Google would offer more info than I know of him and his films etc .

But my point is , FSG do not need to consider what the Club would have done 40 years ago , 30 years ago , 20 years ago etc . They purchased a mega 'Premier League Club' with a global fanbase and great facilities at an exceptional price with the intention of becoming winners in sustainable fashion .

We need their ideas , we need their vision , we need them and we need to support their decisions to stand a chance of being competitive over the next 25 years .

Souness , Evans & Dalglish have 2 league cups and 1 FA cup in 9 years of the premier league era . Houllier and Benitez won 1 League cup , 2 FA Cups , 2 Super Cups , 1 Uefa Cup and 1 European Cup & 1 PL runners up over 12 Premier League years. Clearly it is 'new ideas and new initiatives' that has paid off for LFC over the last 21 years .

I support everyhting FSG are doing and I am already anticipating a healthier , more vibrant and progressive LFC for next season .

EdWood


And in the process of those managers and others not mentioned have squandered millions of pounds on players who the joe public on the street new were never going to be Liverpool players . FSG who must of gone through the business dealings of LFC over a long period of time before they invested must of seen the wasted millions and thought this is no way to run a business especially after the way we spent last season and sat down and made a whole new plan on how to run Liverpool FC as a club and as a business starting with the cull of so many people Kenny included . I for one back FSG 110 % in all they do and believe that this has needed to of been done we have wasted twenty years stagnating since our last championship lets hope with FSG it wont be another twenty years lets all back them for the good of Liverpool Fc


I believe in addition to making B-Movies he also dressed up in women's clothing!
Bazzaa {Ed002's Note - I am pretty certain that your information is untrue - Ed001 has never made any B Movies.}


We also finished runners up with houllier in charge in 2002 I think? Just saying mate. Dennis 89


Ed Wood is the genius who made Plan 9 from Outer Space, a reference film for all directors who want to understand continuity and special effects.
He died in 1978, so is probably not the short list to manage Liverpool.
Red Steve


 

 

26 May 2012 14:05:38
Just heard on the grapevine that Martinez has been approached by FSG to become Pep Guardiola's assistant at Liverpool.

Sounds like BS if I'm honest, but I thought I would pass it on anyway.


 

 

26 May 2012 14:05:03
Give FSG time it's called due process!

I expect an announcement next week on both Manager and DOF.

That would give the new duo a week to sign players and announce players for sale a week before the first Euro game on June 8.

And is Howard Webb really England's refereeing representative at EURO 2012? Wow..... surely he'll get the final then as the three lions won't be there.


As far as Webb goes - not sure if United had a clause in his Old Trafford contract to allow him to go. Although he will be back for pre-season training with them.

John B


 

 

26 May 2012 13:58:31
Massive rumour................. Van Gaal to be the next Liverpool Manager!!!!!


Hope your correct


Well plse be true i would much rather Van Gall than Martinez, plus he is a well respected coach across the world so we would get better players


 

 

26 May 2012 13:50:29
This is not a rumour, but what exactly do FSG see in Martinez. He has been fighting relegation for the last few seasons, he had hardly transformed Wigan. They never even seem to make mid table. Compared to Lambert and Roger's who have done more in there first season in the prem. I'm confused shirley there has to be other choices?


Wigan were a mid-table Premier League side under Steve Bruce & Paul Jewell. They actually made it to the League Cup final under Jewell.

Wigan have been in a slight decline under Roberto Martinez and have found themselves battling for survival since he took charge.


I'am not confused and don't call me shirley


I agree. Does anyone really think the Norwich and Swansea squads are that much stronger than the Wigan squad that they should finish so far above them in the table? Wigan have some good players, Valencia, N'Zogbia, Rodallega, Moses are all pretty good, and yet they always flirt with relegation. Wigan could comfortably be a mid-table club with great management; so why are we lauding Martinez's avoidance of relegation when it was his team that had been underperforming before?

Red Ollie


Could it be were all bloody clueless then?


 

 

26 May 2012 13:48:34
Hi Eds?
Being realistic.
(If Martinez is the manager).
We'll need 5 new players;
-A RIGHT-BACK.[(back-up for G.Johnson).because Kelly may be moving into CB position].
-A LEFT-BACK.[to provide competition for Enrique].
-A DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER.[back-up for Lucas].
-A RIGHT-WINGER.
-A LEFT-WINGER.
-A STRIKER.

As he(Martinez)use 3-4-3 formation.
Probable first XI:
Goalkeeper:Reina.

Centre-back:Kelly.
Centre-back:Skrtel.
Centre-back:Agger.

Right-wing back:Johnson.
Central Midfielder:Gerrard.
Defensive Midfielder:Lucas.
Left-wing back:José Enrique.

Right-wing forward:(New).
Left-wing forward:(New).
Centre forward:Súarez.

SUPPORT THE NEW MANAGER.
Y.N.W.A


Give it a rest FFS

We are rudderless at the moment


 

 

26 May 2012 13:47:56
i know martinez is favourite for the liverpool job, but if AVB is still in the run in do you think there is any chance of us getting james rodriguez and rolando(if skrtel leaves)

Y


Rolando and Rodriguez would want champions league football


 

 

26 May 2012 13:39:44
Ed/s,
Have you heard anything on the DoF situation ?
There seems to have been zip.
All this talk of a new manager. But is he being told that he will work under a DoF ?
And no idea who that post holder will be ?
In principle, the DoF & Coach model is fine but it does rely on a close working relationship between the two.
At the moment, there is just nothing.
That has been my criticism with FSG.
I will of course support whoever is appointed, but the whole process to date seems rather ill-planned.
The Real KB {Ed002's Note - Nothing of note KB. In an ideal world Wigan would employ a DoF, Liverpool could go after him and then you could have daily updates.}


LOL.
Point taken ed.
The Real KB


Brilliant

Now why don't Wigan do that


But who's generating the talk about our new manager - certainly not LFC.

John B


 

 

26 May 2012 13:33:18
Martinez will be just like Hodgson, why are we even looking at him, is it so he can keep us out of relegation... It's a joke


Back that statement up with your name you are the joke

Big red g


 

 

26 May 2012 13:29:54
As you all know, I am a true and loyal red but I have many concerns.

Why should we all get behind Martinez ? He has not been appointed yet, and in my eyes is just a relegation struggling manager, with no pedigree, experience or even a past record to shout about. Me may become a good manager, who knows ?

Personally I dont think he has the experience or is good enough at the moment, so I have no reason to get behind him....he is not our manager at the moment so why should I ?

Do I have views on who should manage our team , yes of course I do. For me there is only a few managers who are good enough, Guardiola ( low chance of getting him ) or Kloop ( maybe ? )

The only outstanding candidate is Rafa Benitez. i watched a video of Sammi Hypias las t game in 2009 and trust me we wWERE a force to be reckoned with at that time. the commentators were saying how strong and disciplined Liverpool were and that we would be a force for many years to come.

Then Hicks and the other cowboy arrived and our club is now in decline.

for me, sacking kenny at this time was premature. He would have happil;y worked alongside a new kid on the block such as Martinez until he was ready.

FSG made an error in sacking Kenny so early and despite what some of the keyboard warriors are saying, most of the real fans genuinely feel that Kenny should have been given more time.

They must choose wisely this time, whoever comes in has a huge task.

For me there is only one logical choice. His name is Rafa Benitez the man who won the most famous European Cup final in history and brought us within a whisper of winning the league title.

He has learnt from his mistakes, and for me he is the right man, the only man who can rescue our reputation.

Tel 1949


How do you know he learnt from misatkes? whos to say AVB hasnt? what mistakes has Martinez made.... exactly


Kenny was sacked because he went back on his promise to sell Suarez this summer, FSG/Henry want rid of him becuase of the damage he done with our sponsors after the Evra incident. Kenny agreed to sell him but when he went to Boston for his end of season review he told FSG he wanted to keep Suarez and that FSG had to either back him or sack him, They sacked him, Ant manager coming in now, Most likely Martinez, Will be told from the start that Suarez is not part of the plans. Antonio Conte and Alegro Allesio from Juventus were caught on camera at the Urugauy/Russia match last night.

As for Guardiola and Klopp. When Pep says ''Seduce me'' he is talking to Chelsea, There is no way he would come to Liverpool and Klopp has said he's staying where he is

Glen P


Good post I always like reading yours, When I say get behind Martinez I mean when/if he is appointed as he will need full support because it's a very big job. I also would have loved pep or klopp but doesn't look that way, personally Rafa is not for me, just want this to end soon so we can all move on.

G BOX


FFS - you must really be " In The Know " Glen P - to know exactly what was said between FSG and Kenny - and if FSG are winners in the sports world, why on earth would they insist on selling Saurez. You must also know that out of the sides ahead of us in PL this year, only 2 employed successful managers ( well 1 really as Di Matteo won the FA Cup and Cl )

John B


Would these be the same sponsers who took the piss out of LFC at their recent AGM?


I like your point on Martinez working underneath Dalglish, and I would agree on the premature sacking part.

Good post Tel 1949

Mr controversy


In what way did the sponsers take the piss out of the club? {Ed002's Note - I suspect teh reference is to the Standard Chartered AGM.}


 

 

26 May 2012 13:15:52
Current rumours have it that yesterday's announcement by Dave Whelan suggesting that LFC had offered RM the managers position was a ploy to freak out Martinez at the hatred and outcry from LFC fans so that he will not leave Wigan.


 

 

26 May 2012 13:06:00
According to Dave Whelan, Martinez has the Liverpool job. Now he claims Alex Ferguson will retire at the end of next season..... Just wondering if any of the eds know how to contact him as I'm wanting to know tonight's Lottery results.. Cheers..YNWA


11 18 31 33 44 49

You're welcome.

Matt S - YNWA {Ed002's Note - From an academic standpoint, I would be interested to know if anyone does put their pound on these numbers.}


Ill give it a go and hope its a winner lol

midland red


Can you imagine if it was them numbers and no one bothered to put a pound on ill have to go do it now as i would be kicking myself from now till xmas if they came out lol
giblet


 

 

26 May 2012 12:47:24
Hey Eds
Just been reading on ESPN Soccernet that LFC are going to renew their interest in Guardiola. I know there is the connect with his brother being Suarez's agent. Have you heard anything more on this?
Thanks Ste {Ed002's Note - No and any interest FSG might have is nothing to do with Suarez or his agent.}


 

 

26 May 2012 12:46:56
So irritated with these people with their head in the clouds. Whoever is the manager , is the manager, and we should all get behind him.

We are the greatest team in the world. RM will get us playing good football. and as he has shown lately, even with limited players, you can still play football in the proper manner, even against the better sides.

With technically better players and the same attitude why can't it be a success. I have heard no valid argument to say why LFC can't play the RM way and succeed. Very logical to think if you play that way with better players you will get more wins than you lose.

People argue it too cavilier, but then say they want Pep... Umm Barca are about as cavilier and football purist you can get.

As far as the EPL goes RM has more of a schooling here and more expeariance than any of the other candidate (barring Rafa)

For me RM is not the nightmare scenario you all seem to think. He is infact a smart choice, even if he is not my first choice. YNWA

redphil


Well said redphil, I agree with you it`s a shame the ones that want instant answers can`t see that.

Andy kophead.


 

 

26 May 2012 12:44:55
rafa benotez in 2007-one day everyone will realise how good lucas is
need i say more
thanfieldcat


Clever bloke that Bonetez!!

Is he a Spanish Mystic Meg!!

Lyndon


Haha Lyndon trying to be smart but then spells ''benotez' as ''bonetez''


Ironically!!

Lyndon


 

 

26 May 2012 12:43:38
Without doubt Rafa would do the business. I wasn't too keen on his rotational systew, but with him at the helm we would get results. If FSG don't want him. I have only one thing to say: Andre Villas-Boas.


But you said more than one.

Mighty reds


Yes will he do the business with krompkamp, doessna, joanovic, el-zhar, kryiakos, josemi, degen, aqualani, keane, nunez, gonsales and morientes ?


 

 

26 May 2012 12:39:51
My feeling is, and correct me if I'm wrong Ed, that Guardiola and Biesla could be available and Liverpool and Chelsea are looking for a manager. I'd be happy with whichever one Chelsea don't get.
Realistic?

Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - I suspect you are wrong Chris. Very wrong.}


Wrong that they would both be available, wrong that Liverpool and Chelsea are looking for managers or wrong that either man would go to either club?
Or just wrong that either man would go to Liverpool?

Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - I am staying out of the managerial arguments Chris for fear of flak - which will no doubt be coming over a couple of other subjects soon.}


Fair enough Ed, I suppose I was just being hopeful that Bielsa was an option
Please ignore the morans and just keep saying it how you see it

Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - I don't think anything is decided with Bielsa just yet - but Roma are keeping a watchful eye.}


Ie saurez leaving maybe very cryptic ED002
riley


What have you heard ed002 ?
I think I'm expecting Suarez to be moved on..
The other - stadium ?
Come on ed, spill the beans.
The Real KB {Ed002's Note - No doubt there is some flak coming KB but I don't want to be encouraging it. I will be around a lot less as I shall be on the road for a couple of weeks - no point spoiling anything before I leave.}


Well flak would only come if he/she were wrong about something.

This leads me to believe its something positive. Couldn't be about suarez because he has said numerous times he is staying.

It could only be about the managerial appointment and with the certainty that Chris in Tamworth was dismissed means you know who it is?

Perhaps a manager you have dismissed before? Who knows?

GuvTOB


Iv been thinking its along the lines of saurez going my self The Real Kb as llong as they spend the full money on another world class striker it might not be too bad would still be gutted to see him go and Ed002 would get flak cos she has been saying it for ages hope not but looking more likely
giblet


GuvTOB, you are naive to think that just because Suarez says he is staying that he actually will. Its time to let go of your mums hand and enter the real world pal. I would guess it is Suarez and im not too bothered about that. I would much rather it to be Suarez than Kb's other suggestion about the stadium.

The Irish Rover


Who knows if Suarez and the stadium funding are tied up in some ways, Irish Rover. FSG are looking to raise funding / partnerships etc, and maybe Suarez would need to go to rid the club's name of last season's shenanigans. It wouldn't surprise me anyway.
The Real KB


Oh dear. Ed002's cryptic note may suggest that Pep could get the Chelsea job. But neither Pep nor Biesla to LFC.


 

 

26 May 2012 12:39:40
I like how everyone is saying get guardiola, dechamps, de boer etc.
and not martinez ir other managers from crap clubs.
Look where those top managers were from? If guardiola didn't managed barcelona and instead is still at their 'b' team, and we wanted to sign him as our manager, would you support him? No you won't cos you guys are obssed with reputation instead of quality and how they managed to cop despite at such lower clubs. So i suggest no mtter who we get, just get on with it and back the manager for at least two or three season.

UnknownRedd.


 

 

26 May 2012 12:39:36
To summarize whats happening at Liverpool

FSG and Martinez are peforming a snake dance with each one tentatively looking at the other, neither one is quite ready to strike yet.


On the other possible managers

FSG can afford a top Manager as they would not be able to afford him and more importanly would not be able to give him a war chest in the summer transfer market.

FSG seem to want a "yes" man

FSG seem to want to remove passion from the club in the administration end


All very interesting


More questions pop up by the day, such as:

Will it work what FSG are trying to do?

Will FSG turn into the new H&G?

Has Henry bitten off more than he can chew?

Where will LFC go from here?

What exactly will the MGT structure at LFC be like?

Has FSG gone toooo Corporate?

Can you be sacked as LFC manager for being too passionate and for not being a certain image?
Will that lead to a good manager ever bring appointed?

Everybody mentions time and how the new manager needs time but the last two managers got very little time, will the new man fare any better?

As for the 10 year plan for the new manager if FSG don't get it right LFC may not be around in its current form in 10 years time, of course it will still exist but what will it be like the leeds of the O'leary era?


The Anfield Cat Psychic


He what way do you have any reason or inkling that FSG want a Yes man!

You sit there running away with you Mouth
Without even taking a nano second to think about what's coming out of it. With no evidence to back it up

Turn your mum and dads computer off
and behave yourself Soft lad

Lyndon


First off you have not comprehended whats in my post. I am merely asking questions and musing about what appears to be happening, you might not agree with it and thats okay, but think before you reply to a post! After the nuerons have fired in you head and the brain has calmed down re-read the post
before replying.

He what way do you have any reason or inkling that FSG want a Yes man!

"He what way"

Not comprehensible english


You sit there running away with you Mouth

I am typing it has nothing to do with my mouth


Without even taking a nano second to think about what's coming out of it. With no evidence to back it up

I have thought about it in my post I said "Seem" do you understand this word?

Turn your mum and dads computer off
and behave yourself Soft lad

You assume much, its neither my mum or dads computer and I am far from soft


The Anfield Cat Psychic


Good Response!!

Lyndon


 

 

26 May 2012 12:35:26
Tixixi Bergrastain, lots of peoples choice as DOF eh..

As far as I am aware he won't be taking the job due to some personal reasons...

Armando


Any clue who will be? Van Gaal has great experience, but is very confrontational which may not suit our owners.

Papa G


 

 

26 May 2012 12:28:39
Uruguayan forward Luis Suarez has found himself to be the subject of derision and satirical cartoons typically associated with politics rather than sports. Russia defender Roman Sharonov referred to Uruguay’s Luis Suarez “a woman” after the Liverpool player struck him during a friendly. “We didn't clash, he just hit me on the sly. I told him he was a woman, in English, naturally,” Sharonov said after the match.

With the question asked of Suarez, he denied striking the 35 year old defender and said “I am not a woman, he is a woman”. Those present could hardly hold back the laughter. Today we find the sports pages of the Moscow pages talking much of the, now, “little girl” Suarez and little of the lively encounter which in a 1-1 draw with Zenit St. Petersburg striker Alexander Kerzhakov responding to Suarez’s opening goal.

Sharonov, 35, was a surprise choice for Russia’s Euro 2012 squad after an eight-year leave of absence from the National side. “This is my last chance to go the Euros. After all, I’m not a young player, and even young players rarely manage to go.” Sharonov told Reuters.

Suarez joined Liverpool in January 2011 and his controversial career has continued scoring 21 goals in 49 games for Liverpool but suffering a lengthy ban over incidents with Manchester United’s Patrice Evra.


Trouble follows Suarez wherever he is, He bit a player in holland, spit at another player, Cheated Ghana in the world cup and we all know what happened with Evra, Suarez is a trouble maker


SHARONov seems to bitch like a girl and his name as Sharon... really who is the girl?


How did he cheat against Ghana. it wasnt cheating. and was quite basically saved his team from losing. even the other team said they would have done the same thing after the game.... sure it wasnt in the rules. but really would you not have done it to go through to the world cup semis? get a grip. trouble maker or not he is amazing at football and should be admired for just that not his other flaws


''How did he cheat against ghana'' Ehhh, He handled the ball on the line, Thats cheating. simples. you just said yourself ''sure its not in the rules'' are you drunk? He cheated


Lol Liverpool fans not getting any smarter I see.

You say saurez did not cheat but than go on to contradict yourself by basically saying he broke the rules on purpose (which is cheating). But it's ok because it was a brave on honourable act lol give me a break.

CnM
{Ed002's Note - You will see deliberate handballs in many games and it is probably by definition "cheating". However, perhaps we could drop the term from this discussion.}


Well yes he cheated technically but plse tell me which player in todays football has NEVER cheated? As simple as football is players still feel the need to cheat, dive, elbow, kick spit so yes almost everyt player in football cheats to some point


Midland Red


Whether he "cheated" or not is beside the point. But this is why I believe owners are looking to sell. It never ends with Suarez.

I will be happy to see him at Juventus.


He handled the ball, gave away a penalty in the last minute & was sent off!
If Ghana had scored the penalty would Suarez be called a cheat?
Cheating would be if he handled and got away with it because the ref didn't spot it.
Robbo7


 

 

26 May 2012 12:09:03
Remember everyone. Give Martinez a chance. Everyone starts somewhere even Fergie, Pep, Klopp and wenger. Wenger came from bloody asia for christs sake. Personally I believe whoever manages Liverpool is going to have a tough time because the moment we lose 1 match someone will be calling for his head. We just need to support whoever our manager is, whoever plays for us and we need to be a brotherhood because thats what liverpool is.
GOD


Yes, your right. I'm sceptical regarding Martinez but I understand he's a hard worker with drive. If he's appointed we need to get behind him. However, I'll never trust American owners, they don't understand the game and consequently have know passion. There passion is for the dollar nd the dollar alone.

Ozone


Do you know ANY businessman who is NOT in his business for money? Of course FSG are in business for money. BUT this division of their business is Sport and they know that to make money they need their team/s to be successful and so they will do all they can to make sure they ARE successful. The motive needn't concern us...but in achieving their goal they will be also achieving ours - so what IS the problem brother ozone?

Puzzled


EVeryone has a passion. Yours appears to be anti-Americanism. Good luck with that.


The fact that we could be used as leverage at any given moment to service their other business interests. The fact they could exploit us to grow other parts of their business community (warrior) and that they are obsessed with bringing the cost base down as much as they can which would indicate a short term vision of ultimately flipping the club at a profit. Furthermore Randy Lerner and the resale concept. Need I say any more Puzzled pal.

Ozone


Yes I can't deny it, although its not a passion I am anti-American. Whilst not left wing my politics stand at centre to left. Global interference, exploitation, corruption and the main component for the global economic mess we find ourselves in. I don't particularly care for their concepts at the football club I follow. No thanks, they can keep their right wing business think tank the other side of the Pond for me.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - So you hold the American people responsible for global recession etc.? An interesting concept.}


Certainly Ed, de-industrialisation, privatisation, de-regulation of financial markets and securitisation. All American concepts adopted by Mrs Thatcher and burdened upon us. Complicated financial packages invented by Americans and injected into Economies and resulting in toxic debt for which the poor old man on the street is having to suffer the austerity. You can stuff the American way for me, it stinks.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - Many of us opted out back in the day but you may well be over playing the concept of the American Way. I recommend the work of my old buddy Greg Palast, particularly his book the Best Democracy Money Can Buy - but you have to buy it in England to get all of the chapters.}


I'm not directing that at American people by the way Ed, just the American business model and the free market concept. I have Irish relatives in Boston and know some fine Americans.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - And We The People will not hold it against you.}


Cheers Ed, I've taken a note of the recommended read. I'm sure I'll find the findings of his investigative journey very interesting. Thanks for that.

P.S I've only picked up recently that you maybe American but wasnt sure, I hope I haven't offended in anyway as like I say, I'm not taking issue with American people, far from it, it's the free market concept I have issues with and the political forces
encouraging it. It just so happens I very much connect Thatcher with Mr Reagan and I'm of the opinion it's taken 20 years for the economic platform they set out and the greed culture to take hold as it has within world economics generally.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - I am American by birth but left in 1981 - so a long time gone. For various reasons I still spend time there and my mom is still with us out in Marin. But I am not offended.}


 

 

26 May 2012 12:01:31
a rant as much as anything, but i think both Dave Whelan and Roberto Martinez are showing serious lack of professionalism with all these "leaks".
I know Whelan is doing all the talking, but he is getting his info from Martinez...! Surely FSG are aware of this and need to reconsider any offer they may/may not have made to Martinez..?
If Martinez is appointed, I will back him, but i will not be getting too enthusiastic about him returning LFC to former glories in the short or long term. He is currently a small club manager, overseeing a club who have average attendances of approx 14,000 per game. He will be like a fish out of water. sad state of affairs that this is where LFC find themselves..!
What do the Eds think of Whelan and Martinez' conduct in all this...?? {Ed002's Note - Martinez is employed by Whelan and needs to make him aware of what his intentions are. Whelan can do what he wants - it is nothing to do with Liverpool. If he wasn't saying anything all we would have is bleating posts "why won't anyone tell us what is going on?" Whatever happens the fans are going to complain.}


Spot on ed. 002. Fans want things done "the Liverpool way" behind closed doors, yet they are screaming and shouting for some sort of information, on what is happening. Then, when Dave Whelan gives his opinion, keeping his own fans up to date about a club possibly taking his manager, Liverpool fans are up in arms. I'm sure, if Suarez was being pursued by another club, we would hope our chairman kept us up to date.

Irish Red Fan


Whelan's playing devil's advocate for his own agenda. My guess is he's trying to force a quick decision for his own sake. Totally unprofessional and may well hamper the deal going thru'.
solidair


Surely whelan is allowed to do what's best for his business. He is trying to keep one of his best assets. Most businessmen would do like wise.....
DC70


And what other agenda should Dave Whelan be concerned with? Christ, the stupidity of some fans on here is beyond comprehension. He is the chairman of Wigan, everything he says and does should be with the sole purpose of benefiting Wigan Athletic. This absolute s**te about Liverpool being the greatest club in the world is becoming antiquated, that honour belongs to Barcelona now for a while. Our home record last season, to so called lesser clubs was by any standards abysmal. If we have any hope of reacing the heady heights of our past success then maybe it is time to move forward. Fresh ideas just might set us on the right path to again claim to be the best club in the world, with the football style and trophies to back it up.

Irish Red Fan


Whelan has every right to do what he is doing. He has not obligations to Liverpool

Off the pitch, Barcelona are a cynical, money-making machine. They spend their summers touring the world, charging foreigners a hundred dollars for the privilege of watching them stroll around for 45 minutes. Look up how they were received in Asia last year.

It's just the fact they are owned by Catalans and not Americans that they get a free pass - esp. from the many anti-Americans who lurk on forums such as this.

Greatest club in the world? Don't think so.


 

 

26 May 2012 12:00:21
FSG are creating a slick business machine with Liverpool. Look at the CV of recent commercial & corporate directorial appointments. I think this is all positive. On top of that we can cut excellent sponsorship deals providing our overall image is right, clean and untarnished. Also bear in mind USA is a sales culture. Martinez is the perfect choice to fit in with the above, for many reasons. He is probably the most eloquent and personable current premiership manager in interview situations. He is a 24/7 workaholic and Americans also work very long hours. He has already managed a prem club so he knows the territory. He is already in the North West so he doesn't need to uproot, relocate and adapt with all the family strains that could bring with it. Every current high profile, successful manager started somewhere small or in an assistant role. Martinez is already part way up the ladder and with his enthusiasm and intelligence who knows where is can take him and us. Remember that managers have to explain their vision and tactics to the players – so the better they are at articulating that – the more chance the players have of carrying it out. Martinez has an excellent command of English and speaks fluent Spanish so that will be a help with our current squad with several Spanish speakers. Some may remember the comical TV series about Sunderland years ago and will recall how diabolical the manager was at expressing himself. I think Martinez will fit into the new Liverpool business model, will shine in the role and he has my support if he lands the job.


Poppycock


Agreed perfect fit for the business model but what about the bloody football?

Derek


 

 

26 May 2012 11:59:39
Can we just get 1 thing straight, When Guardiola says ''Seduce me'' He's talking to Chelsea, He will never be our manager, Why would he want to manage us when he could manage top players at Chelsea, Go for league titles and manage in the champions league? Sure managers who arnt that long in the game of management like De Boer and Rodgers refused to even talk to us, Thats how bad of a situation our club is in and most of you dont even realise it, It looks like we are gonna be stuck with Roberto Martinez and i guarantee you he wont last the season, Our club is going backwards, Ive never been so upset, angry and dissillusioned in the 35 years ive been supporting LFC, Ive seen a lot of people on here yesterday saying that if Martinez was given the job then they would no longer support our team, Well i wont go that far but even he isnt getting the results, just like Hodgson and Kenny, Then ill be 1 of the 1st to be asking for him to get out of our club, We've been going backwards constantly for the last 4-5 seasons, We need it sorted out quickly, Hopefully Martinez works out for us, Cant see it happening though

David


Why would he go to Chelsea to be remembered as the man who continued winning after Mourinho with an unlimited budget? Hardly CV worthy material...there's a reason alot of fans credit Mourinho more with his Porto achievements than anything else.

Guardiola won't go to Chelsea. Maybe not Liverpool, but deffinitely not Chelsea.


That top Chelsea team that finished 5th in the league, and lost 3 out of 4 games to Liverpool this season.

Overall in terms of playing staff there isn't much in it that's for sure.

But if comes down to money, we don't stand a chance

And BTW the their name was on the CL this season. Slapped around by Barca and Bayern, their luck held out that's all


Grad


Chelsea finished 6th I believe.

HK


To the original poster

no mate ...if 35miln carroll deal can happen then any deal can..

its the model of footballing management..like director of football + manager , n DOF holding or having a say in managers matter is what the reason ..top managers dont want to get in. no manager would want a authority except the owners on his head suggesting or neglecting his ideas n thinking.

thats the main reason


 

 

26 May 2012 11:53:55
Alright lads,

Speaking to Carlton Palmer last night in Dubai and he says Martinez is defo being unvailed as the new boss early in the week. Just passing on the info.

Markdxb


Very much doubt you were talking to him in Dubai when he was in Dublin as guest of honour at the Shamrock Rovers cup game


Ya! Carlton Palmer bet he's got top contacts all over the football world???

Lyndon


Maybe he was talking to Carl Palmer of ELP.
solidair


Carlton Palmer works as a pundit for a Dubai sports channel. He was not in Ireland last night !


 

 

26 May 2012 11:52:10
This is how it looks to me - Dave Whelan was asked for permission to speak to Martinez and got straight onto slysports / talksh**e to tell the world that he has given permission.
Now, realising that there are others in the running and that he maybe should have kept his mouth shut, he gets back to his friends in the media to claim that Martinez has been offered the job but will not take it if he does not get total control - the purpose being to offer RM a means of coming home without a rather large dose of public egg on his face. Simples !


 

 

26 May 2012 11:47:02
A message to all the people complaining about last season and complaining about players
"If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win"
Bill Shankley


I'm sorry, but the only people who would disagree with this comment have to be either bitters or mancs.


And the moaners


I disagreed because you cant spell Shankly. Only a manc or a bitter wouldnt know how to spell the name of our greatest manager.


 

 

26 May 2012 11:43:05
@Ed2, the two 50 Million losses are the 30.2 Million FSG loan and the 68 Million debt. Anyway my point is Liverpool fans could do much worse than FSG so shouldn't get the "YONKS OUT" signs out just yet as they could leave and the club could be bought by someone else in the same fashion as H&G.-MB- {Ed002's Note - No, you don't understand the finances of the club.}


I think the so called LFC fans shouting for the current owners to go should just wait and happens first before they jump the gun. I think these owners know what they are doing. Unlike tom and jerry our last owners. I have a funny feeling our owners now have a big surprise for us all about who our new manager will be. I think it will be a big shock who they choose and it wont be a bad one either. So all the doubters on here just wait and see before you judge. If you can`t wait you can go support another club and leave us true fans alone.

Andy kophead.


Losses and debts are not the same thing.

Losses occur when expenses exceed revenue.

Debt is money owed to third parties.

Losses sit on the profit and loss account.

Debts sit on the balance sheet.

Consistent losses will result in a devaluation of the club in the same way as profits make the club more valuable.

Just a quick heads up!

The Robin


 

 

26 May 2012 11:42:16
Is it true we are going to try talk to pep?


 

 

26 May 2012 11:39:13
Eds and fellow fans. Just thought id have my penny's worth whilst lounging around in the sun. First of all I am now become increasingly annoyed at the amount of negativity surrounding our owners. Sorry but didn't they drag us from the blink of administration when they bought the club and havn't they put plenty of money into the club? Yes they have.
RM has not been offered the job yet and already people are on his case saying he isn't good enough. How do you know this? Has RM had the chance to manage some big players in a team like ours before? People are to obsessed with big names, this goes for players as well as managers. Who is to say that RM wouldn't be a success? Loo at Chelsea, is search of the CL they went through how many managers and spent how much yet ironically it was an interim manager who had previously been sacked by a so called smaller team that led them to glory. You can spout all the big names you want but you have to trust the owners that that will do the best for their investment. If it is RM then he will have my support until I am proven wrong. After all, I am
No glory hunter and will support LFC, whom ever if put in charge.
I've read some post on here lately which quite frankly are shocking from so called Fans saying that they will stop supporting if RM is the manger. Good for you lot, buy a sky blue shirt and sing blue moon if you want to be a glory hunter.
Anyway rant over, I'm going to get some more sun.

Andy the red.


 

 

26 May 2012 11:34:00
Martinez has been offered a position not as Manager but as a number 2 to Pep Guardiola FSG have waited until after the Copa del ray to fly in and close down the deals. Pep won't choose Chelsea due to the higher personal pressures than Barca that caused him to leave. Liverpool is a much more attractive club for him both personally and professionally. Thats also why Roberto has some thinking to do. DOF already in the bag but no name to put to it as yet


Then you woke up...


So you'd be happy with the club spending 7 to 7 % of it's income on the management 1 and 2

Lyndon


Wishfull thinking


 

 

26 May 2012 11:31:50
to macca what is going on mate have you any little bit of info whether martinez has the job or are others still in the running,we need one of your golden nuggets of info,you,ve gone a little quiet.....dave t


 

 

26 May 2012 11:29:52
If you own a top restaurant you employ a top chef. Not a bloke from a Cafe or a Fish n Chip shop.


What a knob! Could you be more disrespectful! No wonder so many other clubs fans hate us so much!


What if the bloke from cafe is a great chef but yet to prove it because he is young..


Unless your restaurant sells fish and chips........

Jolly Red


Spongebob isnt a known top chef . and id still hire him


No you use your current team of chefs to train an up and coming young chef desperate for a shot at the big time.
Otherwise the profession would die out very quickly.
Jamie Oliver used to be a pub chef now he's worth tens of millions and has many restaurants.
Martinez is a good example of a manager who can achieve great things if given a chance.
if we get an experienced DOF in as well then we might be onto a winner.

MIKEY


 

 

26 May 2012 10:53:37
Not posted in a while. Love the site best on the web!
Anyways just my thought on all the Martinez bashing....
My thought is this guy could be a very clever move...
I mean he kept Wigan up and let's be honest there squad
Is awful... He set up swansea for Rodgers before he left...
He plays good footy an is very calm headed even when his
Back is against the wall... But he's also very clever with the media...
If he gets the the job let's just be his 12th man and get
Behind the young man coz u never know and I belive we
Could have a real rough diamond in Martinez!
But an I repeat HE WILL NEED TIME!!

Thanks rickblfc....


Im not against martinez but have you thought he is part of the reason there squad is awful he has had some money to spend wigan are not the biggest spenders nor are they the the smallest spending club in the premier league he has done a good job but you should remember before he took over steve bruce had wigan eleventh in the league if you put into perspective that would make steve bruce the better coach i do rate martinez i think he did a great job at swansea and the last 12 games of last season wigan were great i will get behind him i hope if he is the new manager he does a great job im just not filled with confidence i hope im wrong and he becomes a liverpool great only time will tell
riley


 

 

26 May 2012 11:17:13
Hi ed's just wandering what you thought of pep's comment, I may be just being caught up in the moment but does that give us a chance for him, he would be perfect for the system that FSG want to implement.

Kind Regards

The southern red {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath over Guardiola just yet.}


I accept that challenge Ed.

1.....2.....3.... and hold......





fdhjhghggggggggggggggggggggggggvhvjb




Sorry I fainted

Jolly Red


Lol
Jolly red
epic stoff


 

 

26 May 2012 11:06:24
What's all this MUST get behind Manager Martinez? Telling us what to do?
Insecure plea !
A manager with a big CV will do well. A manager from Wigan or Swansea is a very very risky policy.


Search all the successful managers in today's game and see where they came from.

Eric the red


By that logic shouldn't Terry o connor have been a roaring success at wolves?

Jonesred


 

 

26 May 2012 11:06:12
Not a rumour, more of a dig! Can all those people asking for Rafa to come back, Owen to come back & Torres to come back please wake up. We have new owners will have a new manager and hopefully a new stadium on the way. We need to stop living in the past and face up to the fact that we are going to have to start a fresh. We cam still draw the players that have been playing in the Europa, the team being assembled behind the manager will be responsible for building the club's image & selecting players, all the manager will be there to do is implement his tactics on match day. That is why a strong, opinionated man was never gonna get the job.
M15rk
*great job ed's*


 

 

26 May 2012 10:39:04
@Lyndon, FSG have invested a total of 260.6 Million in Liverpool to date. 30.2 Million transfers, 224 Million buying the club and 6.5 Million in fees. They could sell Liverpool tomorrow for 400 Million if they wanted to so do not think for one moment they are not seeing this as an investment. It is plausible that they could come into this club, sort out the finances, expand all revenue streams and then sell the club for 500 Million making a tidy profit for them and their investors. There is also a chance someone like the Glaziers could buy the club with borrowed bank money. I do not think they are in this for the short term, but if Liverpool keep failing to make the top 4 then they may opt out and cash in.-MB- {Ed002's Note - Your figures are miles away from what they have invested. Where is the loss of £50M from last year? Where is the loss of £50M from this year?}


Not many Banks will lend anybody 400million pound in today's Climate.
If they sold the club for 400 million I'd of thought they'd make a loss.

Ed2 what do you think

Cheers

Lyndon {Ed002's Note - The figures are all rubbish - ignore them.}


Will do ed2

Just find it funny when people band around
Hundreds of millions of pounds like it's nothing. Theirs not that many people in the world who know about handling such figures. But it uncanny that such a large % of them are on Football chat sites!!

Lyndon {Ed002's Note - I could not agree more Lyndon.}


 

 

26 May 2012 10:35:13
Again - I must be missing something. All the rubbish on here slating FSG. They saved the club - end of. Honestly where would we be if they hadn't come in at the last minute.

The big thing is FSG and the heirarchy at LFC have said very little about who is in the frame to be our new manager - they have mentioned no names. Everything, and every name has been generated by the press and rumours from people allegedly in the know, and of course the loud mouthed Gobsh**e called Whelan, who is just trying to keep his mananger by pi**ing off FSG with his comments

Be patient, wait for the official announcement from the club, they are running the process in a very quiet professional way.

John B


 

 

26 May 2012 10:27:27
Great,Bielsa is out of contract this summer and we defenetly should try to get him.His tactical knowigies are great and that's why Guardiola used to ask him about football tactics!!


 

 

26 May 2012 10:25:09
i would be content with robeto martinez in, however i thing it would be a huge upset if he signed some unconvincing players such as moses.

top 4 would be a doubt with martinez in
my opinion
rm97


 

 

26 May 2012 10:05:03
"If Martinez is going to be manager then he has my full support" - Steven Gerrard.


What can he do ?


" if ............ is going to be manager then he has my full support" - Steven Gerrard.

Mr Slonk The Red

YNWA


 

 

26 May 2012 09:55:51
All these transfer rumours are a load of bull!! We haven't even replaced all the staff that left yet and most importantly the manager himself. I'm sure which ever manager comes in will have his own targets in mind. For example if RM did come in I'm sure he would be interested in bringing some of the Wigan players to Anfield. If AVB came he would probably target some Portuguese players or players he's managed before.
Until the managerial position is sorted no one is a transfer target so stop dreaming!! I have faith in the owners and so I request all LFC fans to be patient and fully support the owners as well as the new manager. THANK YOU!
Do you agree ed??

YNWA JFT96
RedCOB {Ed001's Note - yep, fully agree.}


Where is this un-written law that because Martinez has come from Wigan that he will bring Wigan players with him? I'm sure that he would have other, say more high profile transfer targets in place.


There is no law! It's called common sense. I never said he will only bring players from Wigan. For example V. Moses who's had thrived under Martinez would probably jump at the chance if RM wanted to sign him for LFC.
I just hope we secure the best manager possible. It's crucial. I don't want us to employ a manager who will end up getting sacked before the end of the next season. We don't want to become the new Chelsea.
So forget about transfers for now. We need the right man in charge. Someone who has dealt with the pressures of a big club. Dealt with the media pressure and pressure from the fans. Someone who has won trophies. Someone who can attract class players. Someone who can bring back the glory days. For me there is only one man who is available and has all them qualities...

Mr Rafael Benitez

RedCOB


 

 

26 May 2012 09:31:24
Klopp? Let's hope it's true. Dave Whelan needs to take his face to the bog he chats that much shabite. I'm sure a few more names will enter the frame. I'm not sure whether or not I'm frustrated, bored or excited by all this. Anyone notice how Rafa has gone quiet? If he wasn't given the opportunity I guarantee his agent would be chatting loads to the press. Makes you think really.

Klopp all day for me.

P.s I'm not an England fan but wish good luck to Roy. I reckon Andy will shine at this tournament.

DaveyBootle


One reason which is driving RM leave his job will surely his loudmouth boss !!.
Would love to see Klopp appointed.
Lets hope for the best.


 

 

26 May 2012 09:28:51
To be honest I have no idea where people get their transfer rumours on here. I have a few v close contacts in the club plus I know some players but at the moment it's all v quiet. We are a club with no manager or DOF so there's no one there to make these decisions and surely targets that had been identified under Damien and KK will not necessarily be the choice of the new manager and his team.

Also what are our chances of Guardiola? He's won all there is to win with Barca, surely we are a better challenge than Chelsea in footballing terms as there is more to do at Anfield!! We are a better "project" as it were.


So you have very close friends at the club and your comming on here asking what the chances are of guardiola joining!!


If you ask me we are further along the line. chelsea will still have to rebuild their team sooner or later and by that stage our team will be acheiving its full potential
derryred


 

 

26 May 2012 09:27:30
Hands up those who think we can afford a top drawer manager?

Thats an awful lot of hands

Would a top drawer manger require a top drawer budget?

Now who needs Paddy Power to tell you who the next manager will be?

Its very obvious

The Tabby Cat Psychic


Apparently Jesus had a "top drawer manger."

Matt S - YNWA


Was it successful?

Was a geezer called Martinez one of the three wise men?


 

 

26 May 2012 09:27:25
Dave Whelan was in a restaurant in Manchester last night shooting his mouth off. My Da was telling me that RM will get the job and he wants to bring 3 players with him. Basically Whelan was saying he will have 20 million in his coffers from Liverpool soon. Moses and McCarthy are 2 of the players most probable.


 

 

26 May 2012 09:16:48
Liverpool fans swiftly need to wake up. It is as clear as day that Martinez will be the next manager unless he rejects the post. Fans are talking about Kevin Strootman and Pep Guardiola like Liverpool actually have a chance of attracting players and managers of this quality. It's time to realise Liverpool are now a midtable club and midtable clubs attract midtable players and managers. Luis Suarez will be sold, Skyrtel will be sold, Gerrard's days of being worldclass have gone and Reina's huge decline is there for everyone to see. No DOF, no manager and a bunch of Americans who are more interested in making money than putting it into the club. The cost cutting is going to take it's toll on an already poor squad. Liverpool are in a mess and I think bottom half of the table next season is highly probable. People want Rafa back, but need to realise this is a manager that spent a fortune at Liverpool, the majority of his buys being very poor. His constant whining about lack of funds when he had spent more than Man United and Arsenal in the same period, well he will get even less money from FSG and clubs like Chelsea, Man City, Man United, Arsenal, Spurs and even Newcastle are strengthening their already excellent squads. Liverpool are being left behind. I have watched my club drop from the Premiership and I see similarities between what happened to us and what is starting to happen to you. It is time to get behind Martinez if he accepts the Liverpool post as division amongst fans will not help the squad perform.-MB-


How are they interested in just making money!
It will be a long while before they make any money after what they've invested
Pudding!!!

Lyndon


Haha clueless. Martinez hasn't even been offered the job ya plank!

Martin


Emails like this motivate. If we become the underdog you fight harder


Your not far wrong to be fair, bottom Half and relegations a bit harsh but mid tables on the money. If we want to look into the future we only need to look at Villa. It is what it is.

Ozone


Maybe JH vision is turn Liverpool into a "farm" so to speak where the academy turns out players that can be sold and Liverpool can make a profit, we will be a profitable feeder club for the top 6.

Blueboy


A lot of you fans are narrow minded. think about the teams that have been truly successful that last 20 years. Barca, other than henry i can't think of another world class player that has moved their. They buy young and develop the team to play together. they don't just think ooo he world class and so is he. Let's spend 30 mill to get them?! It is no business sense it no football sense. We are not Man City and we are not chelsea. You need to get real and realise the job that is in hand.


Right our squad is still pretty young, carroll will eventually peak when he ite 25-26. hendo and shelvey will start to peak soon too. sterling and suso are soon to get appearances. coates will get more too. i think it can look up. all the best teams (except barca) are built from the back and we have a solid back 4- we actually have 6 v.good defenders. now when our center midfield is at full stregnth, we're okay there too. we need depth on the wings and another foreward couldn't hurt. remember, we have sterling coming through the ranks and soon he will have his breakthrough season. remember what gareth bale did in his ? i think we will be okay and martinez will do a good job here with the right backing. i see a bright future.
derryred


Why do you say and even Newcastleť are strengthening their squads. Its as if you are surprised. Remember they finished way above us and are avery well run club indeed with excellent players. Dont knock the Geordies


Get a grip will you. In 2009 with RAFA we finished a very close second to United.
Considering the disruptions to the club since then we are doing well to have won anything.

We are not a mid table club. We are a club in transition, grow a pair and give it time

Tel 1949


Your painting a very poor picture of our famous team , and your way out with your predictions , we are days away from a new manager and maybe a DOF ,this alone will bring stability within the club , and it will not be our best players leaving , it will be that were adding 3/4 very good players too it , even Lucas will be like signing a new 25 million player , the future of our club is so much brighter than most people think ,
redforever


As ever tel 1949 the voice of reason lol
riley


 

 

26 May 2012 09:13:49
Talks port saying klopp is lined up for Monday !

Unbelievable

Cp


Were are they sayin this have you a link for it?


Why did you post it then?


 

 

26 may 2012 09:13:27
please john henry, give us klopp as our new manager and not roberto martinez.
moose believes this could come true !
yozlfc


 

 

26 May 2012 09:10:15
Was just reading about our owners "Fenway Sports Group". Since taking over the Boston Red Sox in 2002, they have won the world series 2 times. Im sure that says a lot about the people who run the club. I know you cant compare the two sports and leagues, but you can definately believe their desire to win.
PKM


Twice in two years is good, but not impressive


It's Very good when a different team wins it every year of late!

Lyndon


When FSG took over in 2002 the Red Sox hadn't won a World Series since 1918! I very much doubt that the Red Sox fans are grumbling about their owners. -SH-


Great! This guarantees that Liverpool will win the Premier League in the near future then?


And didn't they get to the final of the world series on one other occasion?


 

 

26 May 2012 09:07:52
AVB and Van Gaal to be interviewed this week, but dont get excited about Guardiola as he will still take a year out.
DOF will be announced first followed closely by the new manager. This time next week we will have a new era starting for the Mighty Reds, but I sort of dont want it to be under Martinez.
His playing career was mediocre and I cant help thinking his managerial career would end up following the same path.
YOZLFC


While Fergie, Wenger & Mourinho were brilliant footballers...


 

 

26 May 2012 09:06:48
Can everyone please stop the Klopp, Guardiola rubbish, Roberto Martinez is Liverpool's new manager. Get behind him.


People should get behind roberto martinez he is young and he needs to be given a chance you never know what he can do if we dont give him a go


 

 

26 May 2012 09:06:20
hey eds and macca, if we were to get martinez how much would we have to pay in compensation to wigan? anything over 2mil then i think we should go for AVB who is on a free and would excite players and fans if he did join

Thanks
Kindest Regards {Ed002's Note - It would be negotiable between the sides but no doubt the owners have been given a figure.}


Avb would be a car crash as well


 

 

26 May 2012 08:52:51
heard that fsg are coming back to england to meet three managers at the moment, martinez,rodgers and wait for it.... rafa!!!!! heard it from a reliable source that told me that comolli and kenny was going just saying what i have heard.


 

 

26 may 2012 08:46:05
looking forward to martinez getting the job young bright manager remember its about moving forward so that means no rafa. it's all about a fresh start so when u read this i want u to shout out load come on liverpool! come on martinez we will rise again long live the king


 

 

26 May 2012 08:38:13
Sir Alex Ferguson's old friend Dave Whelan, the Wigan owner, has claimed the Manchester United manager, 70, will retire at the end of next season.
Full story: Daily Mail

so thats the whelan who make all the news about martinez meeting and getting a job in liverpool. no wonder he helping his friend alex frogy.


In what way would that be Helping Fergie
Mr Paranoid!!


Do u think martinez is that big man who everyone want' he is martinez but whelan show like he is pep


 

 

26 May 2012 08:25:03
imagine a club with dave whelan as chairman and harry i love sky reporters redknapp as the gaffer nothing would be kept secret whelan is either telling the truth that martinez was made an offer our its a clever ploy to annoy the americans into not giving him the job so he is sentenced to another year of relegation worries with terry wogan.


 

 

26 May 2012 08:19:55
I think it's disgraceful the amount of Liverpool fans having a go at Martinez. Whether or not the man becomes our manager he will NEVER be a success if the attitude is, before he's even started, he is 'not good enough, and will fail'.
Scolari, Capello, Ramos, even AVB, all have some fantastic records in the past but in many eyes failed when they came to England. Past glories is not a perfect measure of success. Every manager starts on having no trophy's, particularly when they've managed one of the smallest clubs in the premier league.
We're meant to be a great club for managerial support, we're also meant to be alot more things we seem to have let slip over the last few years. He may not get the job, but if he does - give the fella a chance and stop thinking like a plastic fan.


Couldn't of said it better!

clm96p


I hope he sees it as a challenge and quietly rubs it into every doubters face.

I hope he gets the job. I have always liked him and maybe a bit more experience at a bigger club would have been nicer, we all have to start somewhere.

I think he'll be brilliant.

COME ON MARTINEZ!

Tristan


Dalglish is better getting the Wigan manager we might as well get Steve bruce !!!!


 

 

26 May 2012 08:17:50
I think we can take Dave Whelan's comments with a pinch of salt, he's now fegies medical advisor insisting he will be retiring at the end of the upcoming season.
Martinez is the first of a few to be interviewed, if I was John Henry I'd appoint van gaal ASAP and get some bids in for raw talent before the euros rather than after. We all know what tournaments can do to prices and egos " Diouf, Diao" certainly don't want that to happen again.

Of all the Managers available I think Martinez is a decent candidate but I don't think he'd stand a chance and we'd become a mid table side for a few seasons to come, that's is time we can I'll afford to waste we need to be challenging now as well as in the future.

Stu Gerrard


 

 

26 May 2012 08:11:57
Skrtel has told liverpool he wants to leave to play in the CL. Liverpool will demand 20 million plus for him and he's agent has said 5 clubs have asked about him. If FSG sell our player of the season then they can f off to. I dont care if he wants to leave he can see out he's contract. Theres already people saying fsg stands for f**king s**t group. If suarez and skrtel leave and martinez arrives i fear for fsg the fans will turn against them if they have not already. No need to build a new ground it would be empty.

{Ed002's Note - There is a big difference between turning down an offer from another club and forcing a player to see out a contract after saying he wants to leave - what would forcing players to see out their contracts do to morale at the club?}


I wouldn't take as an accurate news source.

They are the only ones with this story.

Skrtel is negotiating a new contract, so it's easy to make stories up. Plus sometimes it's the agent putting these things out there to get more money.


No it will be full but hopefully without person fans (if your even 1) like you!!


clm96p


If they want to go then let them go.

He has been a key player for the last 2 seasons and I'll be sad to see him go but we move on and get someone better.

Tristan


Here we go! Exactly how would the fans turn against them.
Don't tell me send a rude letter email to the owners! Ah that's ready been done by the SOS mob or a nice Demo!!

Support the team and let's see what happens kneejerker

Lyndon

L


Ed002 - has Skrtle stated he wants to leave?

Ozone {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware. Csonto told Associated Press (pre Dalglish leaving) that because of changes at the club his client wanted to know what the future held and said that there were enquiries being made of Skrtel from Italy.}


Since then skrtel has been on lfc tv and denied this statement and has never said he would put in a trannsfer request.


If he does want to leave let him..
One Great Season player thinks he's
Berty Big Bo**ocks Shocker

Lyndon


Cheers for that Ed.

Ozone


Actually he's had two great seasons in a row.

if Lucas was still here he would have got the player of the year again for Liverpool and we would have been fighting for champions league places.

if we can get £17m for skrtel why not? Lovren is available and Musacchio is available as one of those two with our youngster Coates then we'd be fine.

Lovren would demand a fee around £10m
and Musacchio around 10m euros, so if we get £17m for Skrtel then we could get both if the club wanted to think of a long term replacement for Carragher.


Sell

Skrtel - £17m
Cole - £5m
Maxi - £2m
Kuyt - £4m
Wilson - £1m
Jones - free
Adam - £5m
= £34m


In

Lovren £10m, CBR/L - R/LB

Musacchio £7m, CBR - RB

Ryan Boudebouz £11m, RW - AM

Vargas £5m plus Aquilani for free (to get Vargas and because Aquilani's wages are huge), LM - LAM - LWF - L DEF

Luuk De Jong £13m, FWD - ST - AM

Nicolas Lodeiro - Free, AM - Winger - FWD

Nigel De Jong - £8m (at city he is on £108,277 pw there is no reason why we couldn't offer him what he is getting at City with unofficial assurances of more game time, DM - HM - SW

=£54m

Take away player sales £54m - £34m = £20m net spending since we are reported of having a £30m transfer cap we would have 10m still to spend on a extra player in the winter OR not spend it at all to aid in balancing the books.

4231 the Real Madrid Formation.

Reina
Johnson, Lovren, Agger, Enrique
Nigel De Jong, Lucas
Suarez, Gerrard, Vargas
Carroll

4231
Doni
Kelly, Musacchio, Coates, Vargas
Henderson, Jonjo
Boudebouz, Loderio, Downing
Luuk De Jong

but tell me with a 1st eleven of the below Liverpool wouldn't challenge for 2nd, 3rd or 4th

Reina
Johnson, Lovren, Agger, Enrique
Nigel De Jong, Lucas
Suarez, Gerrard, Vargas
Carroll


 

 

26 May 2012 08:11:06
If Martinez is appointed as manager I will get behind the decision as I will have no choice.

However, I think it's fair to say that it is an appointment that doesn't fill me with great confidence.

There used to be a time where if we didn't win it would affect my mood for days (maybe because I became so used to success).

When Souness, then Evans, then Houllier were appointed, I slowly got used to limited success and the draws and defeats didn't hurt as much.

Then came Rafa.

He got us to the point where we went into every game and expected to win or at the very least get a draw. The hurt returned as we were becoming successful again.

Then came Roy.

We were shocking to watch, the results were poor and for the first time in my life of supporting LFC, we were potentially facing relegation.

In stepped KK and the results improved slightly.

I still didn't have the confidence that we would get results every game, so the hurt just wasn't really there. The following season, we played so nice football at times, but the results were shocking.
We won a cup, yet no-one could argue that we played particularly well to win it and could even have lost it on penalties.
We got to another cup final and again played shocking apart from the final 25-30 minutes, but by then the game was over, the damage had been done.
A change was needed regardless of the legendary status of KK.

And now onto the new era.

I want a manager to be appointed that will bring back that hurt when we don't get the result(s) expected.

Yes Martinez has Wigan playing some nice football at times, but why are they always fighting relegation every season? I'm sorry, but this guy does not fill me with confidence in being the next manager of LFC.

I really don't think he is the manager to bring back the hurt.


Martinez had no money to spend at Wigan, they are a selling club, perhaps with a little spending power and the attraction of players to Liverpool he would be a success, give the fella a bit of credit.
Big Bill


 

 

26 May 2012 07:54:34
if martinez is to become manager he should be given time the money he was given at wigan was small and brought in ok players on a small budget so if he becomes liverpool manager he will be given a bigger bu dget then he will be able to go after bigger players {Ed002's Note - It's not the fact that Martinez is in line to become manager,that worrys me,but this hole process has seemed to have been handled very badly by FSG.
Chelsea city utd and gunners will all spend big this summer,so if Martinez is your man FSG,he will need to be backed to the hilt,to break back into top 4!!!

Madred


You know why martinez will be a legend because he didnt play for liverpool has never had anything do with liverpool so he will bring a new era at liverpool


This does not sound like ed002!?

Square tomato {Ed002's Note - It is not Ed002 ST. As if I would fail to put a space after a comma. Thanks for picking it up.}


No worries ed, I wasn't fooled.

Square tomato


 

 

26 May 2012 07:09:33
Hi Eds, great job and great site. You all keep us sane and distracted from work so sincere thanks for a terrific job.

Can you just confirm something for me please. A lot of supporters who are anti-Martinez keep saying its another 'Woy' and are claiming it was FSG who appointed Roy Hodgson but I thought it was H&G who sacked Rafa then hired Hodgson before FSG bought us and ultimately sacked RH to recruit KK. Is this correct?

I for one am excited about Martinez joining. I know he doesn't come with a sparkling trophy-ridden CV but he is young and from his interviews seems very ambitious and committed to winning and this is what I think we need to freshen things up.

Cheers,
B-Red {Ed002's Note - Hodgson was indeed hired by H&G.}


 

 

26 May 2012 06:13:43
Hey eds, are the pictures of the new 2013 'kit' that were posted a few weeks back actually the new playing kits? I mean they dont even look like football jerseys. {Ed002's Note - The kit was launched a week or so ago and there will be pictures on the club site.}


 

 

26 May 2012 05:46:01
Hi ed's, if has is expected, roberto martinez is named r new manager (I 4 1 would be happy), has he got any decent connections in spain, and south america (seem to see wigan sign quite a lot if unknown from these places) and do u reckon given his surname he could av an advantage of signing javi martinez (bilbao) lol? But is he an unknown to most top european players! And that's why we need some 1 like van gaal or who ever is appointed sd or dof, to attract the top notch quality players? And if van gaal does become spoting director, he must have some big, Big book of contacts in the game! I can see good times ahead, aslong as we as fans give it time, and if it doesn't start as well as we want, we don't over react and stop supporting the manager and players! It could click straight away, but as long has we see improvement game by game, he shows his manager quality's and drops under performing players and rewards players who have played well, and not drop them next game something rafa and KK done quite a lot, and hopely because we are in 4 trophies, we give the youth such as sterling,suso, coady. Wisdom, morgan and ngoo chances (not all at once) but some at a time, and if not let them go out on loan at a higher level than reserve football, no lower than league 1, only to local teams, crewe if promoted, tranmere etc etc, and maybe the top youngsters could even go to some prem teams like utd and arsenal have done the past years, and if martinez is manager: he will have a good relationship with wigan, so maybe send players like flanno and robbo, wilson maybe suso to wigan? And sterling is young I know and yet so talented, I would keep him in the 1st team squad, michael owen was so young, pace is 1 thing that can destroy the best and experience defenders! And he if he keeps level headed and not get too big 4 his boots and works to his 100% ability in every training session and games ( I have no doubt he will, as he does seem a good lad) and his family keep him grounded! We could have something special at r club, and its does to us as a club to nurture and develop him, with rodolfo involved, every young player knows he has worked with most of barca's home grown players ie: messi, pedro etc etc, and he will get the best out of them, if like he has said they stay on track and work hard everyday to improve, the players will hopely start progressing through the academy, reserves and 1st team all playing the same systems and the transition isn't has hard abd daunting! We will be a top club from top to bottom, ( I know we are already a great club ) but if uefa stick to the new fair play rules, then what fsg are doing will benefit us in the next few years, and we are making more commercially, the stadium issue looks to be coming to an answer either way as in new or refurbishment of anfield, ( ayre keeps aying it doesn't make sense to make a new stadium 4 only 15,000 extra seats, but isn't there a 10-15 year waiting list for season tickets, so surely we coulf build a 80,000-100,000 seater stadium, barca, mancs, madrid, ac and inter and even bayern fill there stadiums all the time, we have the support to do it aswell, and about the naming rights issue, who cares what its callled, it will always be anfield to us, and it will be are home and we will be playong there, imagine it 100.000 against the mancs? WOW! Plus we would be an option to host the champions league final! Ayre think big and not 60,000 seater, anyway sorry for going on, and its like therapy to me this, just getting things of me chest, and sometimes your mind goes into rant or talking bubbles for a bit ( sorry ), but I hope some points are good enough to read or bare! Love the site ed's and macca, thanks! DHH Y..N..W..A! Jft96!


 

 

26 May 2012 05:11:49
Dave Whelan in my eyes has always been a really top bloke, well until now that is....
He has always said that if a big club came in for Martinez then he wouldn't stand in his way, well then, what the hell is he doing now....
LFC always try and keep things quiet but this bloke is putting Martinez and LFC in a really awkward position, why can't he just keep quiet and protect his dignity..
Im my eyes he has now gone down hill.

Liverbird09


Maybe Martinez shouldn't be keeping Whelan up-to-date with every little details then.


Whelan is paying his wages.

BJH YNWA


 

 

26 May 2012 04:34:01
if martinez does not get the liverpool job, he should blame dave whelan, who just does'nt know when to shut up.


Maybe Martinez shouldn't be keeping Whelan up-to-date with every little details then.


Whelan is paying his wages.

BJH YNWA


 

 

26 May 2012 02:51:18
i do have a question for macca if he is interested though!

macs you say you have players who you talk to inside the club (whether former or current who knows!) but do you know what there thought of martinez possibly being the new LFC manager. nothing is written in stone of course but im sure they are atleast thinking and have some thoughts on the situation! JLFC


 

 

26 May 2012 02:49:06
Wish everyone would just take a deep breath and relax!

All this fuss about a new manager! Obviously, the role is important but, in the grand scheme of things, his influence is FAR too overstated. Sure, you can look at a particular game and point out tactical flaws made by a manager that could have cost us a game but, over the due course of a season, these kinds of errors will balance out for any reasonbly competent manager...just like they do for mistakes made by players.

The reality is the manager gets way too much credit for wins....& bears too much of the blame for losses. I can't think of any other sport where the manager's name actually gets sung by fans alongside the names of players...like he is the 12th man on the team. Too much importance placed on him to be frank.

Do you really think Wigan is life and death every year because of Martinez?...or could it possibly have something to do with the crap players they have.

The only issue with Martinez is shaking the 'small club' mentality & actually going out & spending money on players...not as easy as it sounds. Everyone thinks it's easy to just spend but, if you all of a sudden walk into $ when you've never had it (like Martinez), it requires a different mindset (think of the purchases Hodgson made when he moved to LFC from Fulham--there's a reason we got Konchevsky).

I think Martinez will be a great addition. I'm less concerned about him and more concerned about providing him with 3 or 4 high quality players that he can actually manage.

Red (Not Blue) Lenses


What a silly post.

The whole way the team plays is influenced by the manager.

But apart from that would you go out and play badly knowing you were going to get a football boot lambasted at you head by the manager after the match or how about being on the receiving end of the hair dryer treatment.


 

 

26 May 2012 02:01:18
Well lads if old boy Whelan is spot on that's if mind you we can all sit back and watch our beloved team fall apart and be another villa because im sorry but lets wake up here these yanks are no better than the last lot clowns,we got 50m for Torres 8m Babel 12m meireles plus the wage bill cut dramatically so what have they spent?? Also lets get real here Martinez? Really ye he has had a great last two months of the season I agree but what bout the previous 6? LFC are becoming a laughing stock well done. I don't know bout John Henry and Tom Werner looks to me like we got Warner bros! {Ed002's Note - What they have spent is the money that paid for Adam, Coates, Suarez, Carroll, Downing, Enrique and Henderson.}


That's all Folks!


Are you really asking those question u must have been sozzled last night!! Money has gone on players edd has stated!


 

 

26 May 2012 01:44:01
Hello eds,i have been reading you site for a few months and like it because there is no rubbish comments commenly know as b-s.

My opinion is if Martinez is appointed manager all lfc fans should back him. This will give him confidence to do his job and deal with a higher level of players he is going to work with. I work with one fan who has said "he will never watch liverpool again if Martinez is appointed manger"

To me he his not a true supporter through thick and thin. I thought Kenny did ok this season and really thought he might get until xmas because Liverpool played good football in a lot of games but for various reasons "bottled it". Wether this is down to management tactics , players not carrying out instructions or lack of quality its up to the individual supporter to decide.Last thing dont know if anybody else has noticed how vocal Dave Whelan has been over the regarding of Roberto Martinez's impending departure has been reported to the national press. I didn't know he was our new director of communications! More from him than the owners


 

 

26 May 2012 01:26:48
First post guys, but read every day.

What I wanna say is...do u guys really think fsg don't wanna put us back to the top? Everyone talks about them like they are H and G! These guys have come in and already fired 2 mangers for not performing, a director of football and various back room staff! To think they are trying to do things on the cheap us ludicrous! If they were they would not have fired that many people, paying out compensation all over the place!

If they believe Martinez is the right coach to take us forward then so be it! He is a good young manager that will need our support! What you gotta remember, we will have a DOF who is gunna be the guy buying the players! Martinez is there to make them play.

Martinez probably isn't everyones first choice, but I think he can get the best out of some of the underperformers.

We gotta trust fsg! They may well be in it for the money, but where do u get the best money?!?! From being at the top! They aren't going to want a mid table team who can't get sponsors etc! They are gunna wanna be at the top where the big bucks are.

Mason 84


 

 

26 May 2012 01:22:30
Martinez wont be our next manager it will be jurgen klopp. get your money on it i have


I'll put the house and the car


 

 

26 May 2012 01:11:45
Hey guys i got a fortune cookie and in it, it said Rome wasnt built in a day and to be patient. it led me to believe its a sign were going to get the roma manager!

seriously though i got that fortune cookie, which is kind of funny the situation were in. but that is what some of us sound like these days. and i thought id share my winnings with everyone.

BostonRedBlox


 

 

26 May 2012 01:01:24
De Boer has allegedly turned us down. What happens if Martinez does too. We're looking at a third choice manager.
Meanwhile the only manager to win the CL for us in the last 28 years sits on the sidelines.
And people say FSG dont know what they're doing.


 

 

26 May 2012 00:57:37
I am tired of seeing reports in the media that this player wants more playing time, or wants to leave, or desires playing elsewhere. THEN GO!! no player is bigger than LFC, the club will always be the priority, a place in the first team should e earned, not demanded like a petulant schoolboy, or written into your contract. The only reason TH I could envisage someone putting it in their contract is because they dont have the confidence in their own ability. Anyway, if rumours of this or that player wanting to leave are true, get the most we can get for them and get players in that would have pride in the badge, and desire to make us the best.

Red4Ever


Paper talk - dont be so naive!
We are so hungry for news and love our team so much that they give us anything that will fill pages and sell papers.


 

 

26 May 2012 00:38:35
Hi all, firsly peopl e who dislike rafa need to rememeber what he did and how quick he did it for LFC instead of remembering the bad. 2 CL finals in 3yr says enough imo. Having said that it dont mean any other manager cant bring success so we need support whoever comes to help him acheive this, 1 thing is for sure , we DO have a good enough squad for top 4 we won CL with less so lets not beat oursleves up about that. Who cares how much induviduals cost , they was young buys and if they click for the next 10 yr its not a lot of ££££ but i for sure dont think for 1 minute we cant challenge top 4 with what we have if every 1 plays to their potential and we dont get unlucky hitting posts/crossbars every shot then we can achieve success. Last year wasnt good enough but it doesnt mean they wont improve. YNWA Waynos


It's time to look forward not back it doesn't work


What planet are you on, good enough for a top 4 finish? Look at the PL points totals and the goal difference especially Man City +64, LFC +7. Yes, that's a difference of 57 goals. We get beaten easily by West Brom, Wigan, Fulham, Swansea, QPR.....the list is endless. Wake the f**k up, we are nowhere NEAR Top 4.


To the above poster, did you ever go to school? He said top four you muppet not the title... Clearly the missed chances, woodwork and goalkeeper motm performances had nothing to do with where we were at the end ... We are good enough, you just are not as a supporter

NextGenRed


 

 

26 May 2012 00:22:49
Why is everybody crying over the possibility of Martinez he is a perfect fit to be shaped into our long term manager he is only one part of the puzzle to remember with another older far more experienced watching over him helping him in the DOF role by the way breaking news later I have a good source that tells me Dave whelan is going to tell us wat Martinez ate for lunch YNWA


 

 

26 May 2012 00:21:36
Well it looks very likely Martinez is our new manager then, which will only fuel the Diame rumours. I think we could definitely get him, but I do hope Martinez doesn't raid Wigan and go for Moses and Rodallega. Also, don't know why "fans" are making up and actually going with Berbatov rumours, we'd never buy him and has no place in the Liverpool side. He's lazy, old and despite him being a decent finisher, he's overall a poor player and would be terrible in a mid-table team.

Sean The Red


Tottenham were a "mid table team" when man utd paid 30,000,000 for him.


Berbs would not touch Liverpool, face it nobody wants to manage your club and no decent players want to play for you.


 

 

25 May 2012 23:45:32
I still have a cheeky feeling that it could be klopp
I don't know why? I have no evidence to back anything up, just a feeling that it may happen
Jbplfc


 

 

25 May 2012 23:44:56
macca were are u surly u must have some info on todays going ons cheers mate

mike


 

 

 
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