Liverpool Banter Archive September 26 2015

26 Sep 2015 23:50:07
Hi Eds, just watched MOTD & wondered if most teams have a defensive coach or not? I know nothing really about the game but even I can see that we can't defend, surely BR has eyesight similar to mine. BR seems to have replaced Lovren with Sakho which is a step in the right direction but I hope he now appreciates what a quality pro Lucas is. Our most under-rated player. He took so much stick in his early years & just kept his head down & got with it. he's had his injuries & yet keeps on giving his all. I think he doesn't get the accolades he deserves because that role isn't glamorous but its vital to us. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Not specifically but they will often have coaches who were defenders.}

26 Sep 2015 22:17:24
The boys did ok today, It wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination but the important thing when things have been going so poorly is the result and we got that.

The game shows me what a different team we are when we have sturridge in our team, movement finishing etc is different class even at 75% fitness let's just all keep our fingers crossed that he stays fit.

Some of the posts mention Can and most are right this guy clearly isn't a defender please god Play him in A three with Milner and Lucas while Hendo is out.

All in all a good day for the reds though.now all this is irrelevant when the derby comes round? Anything could happen.

On a side note am I the only one that finds it hilarious that sky have clearly pasted sturridges head onto Benteke's body when they do the line ups at the start of the game its great!!!!!!!

26 Sep 2015 21:58:57
Was a good game for me. We had lots of invention in attack, and goals build confidence. You could see the confidence effect in action today if you caught the City/Spurs game. Anyway, defence still very poor and I am not sure how Gestede so easily over powered Sakho, who otherwise looks so powerful. We really have to stop playing Can in a back three. It is just asking for trouble

27 Sep 2015 00:58:55
Gestede over powered him not only because he had a running start on Sahko, it was due to a severe lack of awareness from Sahko who didn't look around him to see if A player was calling for the cross. Had he done that, he would have seen Gested and positioned his body to impede him fro getting a good header on frame. Sahko like Can for the first, were ball watching hence, the goals came.

27 Sep 2015 02:48:57
Villa's second goal was a result of extrememly poor communication between the backline. Either Skrtel, Can or Migs should have shouted at Sakho to watch his back with Gestede running at him with full speed. While the attacking football yesterday was a breath of fresh air after all the dross we have had to witness in the last one year or so, the defense continues to be fragile and unconvincing.

27 Sep 2015 10:07:01
The only thing I can criticise from Villa's second goal was Clyne didn't try hard enough to close the cross down. Can't criticise Sakho, Gestede had the run on Sakho and it was a belting header. We can't stop everything (ok I know we aren't stopping anything) but sometimes you just have to applaud a good goal.

26 Sep 2015 20:39:58
Although I am glad that Liverpool got the win today. It seems this will only prolong the Brendan Rodgers saga. My honest opinion is that he is not a horrible manager. But at the same time I don't think he is a manager who can lead us into the top 4. If we stick with him, I could easily see us between fifth and seventh at the end of the year. As for now I could see fans having a complete knee jerk reaction after every game. If we win he saves his job. If we lose, fire him. The people I feel sorry for is the EDs who are going to have their hands full after every match. let's see what happens against Everton.

P.S. EDs Thank you for all the work you do in informing us fans.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

26 Sep 2015 23:03:52
He may be a decent coach, but he is not a quality manager.

He's shown himself to be small-minded (amongst other equally unenviable personal and professional traits) and the mess he has created will be a challenge to unravel.

Just about beating Aston Villa at home after everything that's gone changes none of that.

27 Sep 2015 01:02:32
Spot on, Wiwar! Nothing changes for me. He needs to go. If he wins consistently then of course, he stays till the end of the season BUT I don't see that happening because BR gets too comfortable after a win and then, loses the next two. He needs to go, period.

26 Sep 2015 19:36:16
Last season and this have proved to me the only way this group of players under Rodgers can play with any sort of control is today's formation. I would prefer someone with more mobility to partner Lucas to cover pacey counter attacks but i liked the constant width available in moreno and cline. Liverpool suit two forwards with good mobility and technical ability. Sturridge and Ings showed real partnership potential today which is a massive positive in terms of our goal scoring potential. If we never signed milner we could have had Can partnering Lucas today with gomez at rcb and that's a better all round team imo.

26 Sep 2015 19:05:43
Some improvement today. morenos crosses actually looked like crosses and Sturridge is getting fitter. ings looks like he's determined to give 100 % every game he gets picked for and Lucas is back to his play breaking up best. Clyne looks the part and our shape (two strikers) actually made some sense. But our defence is still shaky (Sakho being bossed like that in the air???) and our bench was not the strongest. A step forward yes, but Aston Villa are are poor side who almost got a draw. So not a huge step forward IMO

26 Sep 2015 18:31:24
I know it's only one game, but anyone else think Gestede looks more of a traditional Liverpool style player than Benteke?

26 Sep 2015 19:47:53
Not me, Lenin. He's at his level and being gifted two goal without breaking a sweat by a poor manager, doesn't make him an LFC type player. Heading seems to be the only thing Gestede is good at.

26 Sep 2015 21:20:01
To be fair, redohio, he is really, really good at heading though. Not saying I want him, mind.

26 Sep 2015 17:51:33
Well, chaps at least we scored more than 1 goal. I think it was a pretty good attacking display, although Aston villa made it quite easy for us, and we all know it's easy to look good against poor teams. I think Danny ings has a lot to do with us being a constant threat going forward. He is the only striker making proper runs into the box or for the midfield, sturridge kind of just plays of the quality of other and scores amazing goals. Ings is hardworking with a pure strikers brain which is what we have missed, he is what you call a 'fox in the box'. I think that is all for the positives though if we are talking about the team and not individuals.

As a team, we are one of the worst defenses in the league and those players should not be anywhere near that. In terms of personal or on paper we should have a solid defence, but together they are so disorganised without the ball, even sometimes with the ball. We are a complete shambles, no communication and therefore no organisation at the back and the players should take half the blame for that (skrtel sahko and mignolet) but Rogers is defensively inept and I have no confidence in him ever being able to improve that. We just rely on out scoring teams half the time and that will not get us top four or the league ever, unless you have a player like Suarez.

Nothing has improved and even after 8 games of positive results I don't think anything will actually change. So this result does nothing towards fixing the problems currently at the club. My faith has been lost and I supported him through 3 seasons, but last season showed me he won't improve at Liverpool and we will not move forward. We need an experienced change, one that should work as LVG has worked for United. If FSG naively bring in the wrong man once again, they then have to be part of the problem.

Anyway individually, Lucas was brilliant, discretely saved us from being overrun all game. Moreno has been consistently our best player since he's been back and his position should not be in question, although defensively always shakey. Clyne proved me wrong, he can definitely play that wingback role, he was another threat all day. Sturridge, well he's like marmite at times, today I love him. Ings, if he continues will be a fan favourite if he isn't already. Milner had a much better game. Coutinho is having his usual consistency problem, he has it every season but will come out of it, we seriously can't rely on him otherwise he will leave. Other than that mediocre.

26 Sep 2015 18:46:33
I think Sturridge is one of those players who will lose it a lot, but it will be trying something. He won't hassle the defenders too much but if he gets a chance he will be more likely to finish it than anyone in our team, and he can beat players with ease when fully fit

26 Sep 2015 19:28:22
Inge has the look of John Aldridge about him, and that is no bad thing - a pure striker - it's about time we had one of those.

26 Sep 2015 19:56:07
Brilliant post, Kman! The win changes nothing for me. BR needs to go ASAP.

26 Sep 2015 17:22:12
Milner, Lucas and sterling played awesome, looking like, they are back in form.

Good support from ings and coutinho.

Great to see full backs playing as fullbacks, not sure about CB combination.

It would good to see can as midfielder. rather than regular CB.

{Ed023's Note - Sterling?}

26 Sep 2015 17:32:02
You need glasses dude. Emre Can played at the back and there was no Sterling on the pitch (I know you mean Sturridge).

26 Sep 2015 18:05:24
To be fair AG he did say it would be good to see can in midfield not at the back

27 Sep 2015 04:06:44
Haha could not get over the fact sterling moved on. It's sturridge friends.

26 Sep 2015 17:15:55
If ever we needed a result, that makes life a little easier.

26 Sep 2015 17:21:51
Your back. Oh . . Mighty Reds, you seem to be posting a lot on here recently. Have you got bored over on our page? Or don't you visit to troll when we're top?

26 Sep 2015 17:45:23
He's not really very welcome here either Stand so you're welcome to him. He's a blind apologist for Rodgers. I think he might be James Pearce

26 Sep 2015 18:05:16
Or Ron Kreague. I take that back because Ron has now changed his tune and wants him sacked.

26 Sep 2015 18:26:36
I have been to troll plenty of times Stand but sometimes they don't get posted has you lot from Salford didn't sharpen your teeth enough to bite at me, like you normally do. Smug I know but that's me.

26 Sep 2015 18:31:06
Haha i was about to say he trolls here too, only joking mighty all lfc fans welcome, even if we don't all agree.

26 Sep 2015 18:40:20
Redohio, Ron wants BR sacked? When did this happen ? I never saw that post and was so looking forward to one of the last BR love children turning.

26 Sep 2015 18:56:31
Sorry to disappoint you Ohio.

I don't want Rodgers sacked, I want him to win every game from now until the end of the season.

What I have said for the last couple of weeks is it looks like he's going to be sacked or I think I also used the phrase "regime change".

I still think the same, I can't see him lasting until 2016, but I don't want it to happen unlike the majority.

26 Sep 2015 19:20:07
Just because someone has a different opinion than the norm does not mean they are not welcome on the page Essex. Pretty poor comment really.

26 Sep 2015 19:29:31
It would be pretty boring if everyone had the same opinion

26 Sep 2015 20:06:15
Still talking with both sides of your mouth, I see, Ron. You are a one man crusade and a known BR apologist so save your word play and obfuscation for you and your ilk. You have been criticizing him a lot recently after coming on here to gloat when he was kept and using every trick in the book to absorb him of blame for all his issues. Now, you wanna switch up and think we won't catch it. Sorry, bro you lose. You are and always will be recognized as a BR apologist and nothing you say or do will change that. Many here think you're either him in disguise or his paid public defender. Own it , Ron and stop deflecting and double speaking like your BFF always does and in fact, he just did that after the Villa game.

26 Sep 2015 21:20:21
I'm allowed that opinion then tj?! Think am allowed to call out Rodgers apologists who are helping to bring the club to its knees!

26 Sep 2015 17:07:04
The 'Other posts' can't believe his luck, for the first time since last April more or less, he can take a day off.

26 Sep 2015 16:54:49
Couldn't watch the game, but my positives are obviously sturridge is getting back, we scored early, a rarity these days. How did we play? How was sturridge apart fro, the goals? Still shaken at the back?

26 Sep 2015 17:00:43
Villa were poor and that summed up the first half, We played well and BR pulled a blinder in deploying Countinho as the main man in the middle alongside Lucas.

Sakho and Can culprit for both the goals

26 Sep 2015 17:05:36
we were better going forward, two top finishes from Studge . when he is fit, he is just miles away ahead of any of our other strikers, simple as that, his movement is sensational and finish is great. We were pretty disastrous defending wise. Sakho, who I usualy am a big fan of was really poor and the others were not better. communication at the back was as bad as it can be. We were lucky to concede only two tbh.

26 Sep 2015 17:08:38
Sturridge struggled until the first goal. I was just about to post how he seemed a bit lacking in sharpness and then two top finishes.

26 Sep 2015 17:09:35
Unfortunately I was only able to watch the first half in full, thanks to my fantastic Internet connection. But in the first half, Sturridge tried hard but match fitness is still clearly an issue for him. He also looked very much afraid to really sprint. I fully understand why, he doesn't want to push himself just yet and be out for another 8 months.

In the second half, my stream came back on around the 71st minute, so I missed all 4 second half goals, but around the 75 minute mark, Sturridge looked exhausted, leggy and in need of substituting. He still had 2 opportunities which, had he been playing from 6 weeks ago, he would have buried them all.

Defensively we looked a little unsettled on occasion and Can made a horrendous error which should have resulted in a Villa goal, we did panick at times, there was a moment towards the end of the first half where several players attempted to try and clear it, swinging their legs wildly and missing.

We didn't really create much in the first half, we dominated possession but there was no penetration at all. Second half we seemingly turned it on, but my bloody internet farted and killed my stream >_

26 Sep 2015 17:16:17
Some brilliant individual play.For most of the game we were flat.Rodgers once again got lucky,he chose wrong formation,Villa team were happy to give us posession as we were harmless and lacked penetration.Main problem is we lacked any movement,In between when milner was running into spaces it caused them real problems,the goals were pure individual brilliance,I don't think it requires any coach or setup to score such a goal.Rodgers once again played Can in RCB position,he struggles defensively.Our defence was shambles,Sakho was great except his heading which was awful.Our team is really under utilised.We don't have great defence but our attack is very dangerous.We have greater chances of winning games by scoring more goals than playing insipidly to stop goals.

26 Sep 2015 17:24:08
Indian

What exactly is your point mate, If the goals were all pure individual brilliance, let's buy 11 individual brilliant players?.
Then swallow a fact the goals conceded were also down to pure individual mistake and does not relate to any manager.

Sakho was great except his heading? seriously?

26 Sep 2015 17:52:08
We played the same way we normally play with the same lifeless tempo and panic in defence. The goals were well worked and Dtudge will only get more confident from his goals. Apart from that, it was the same old stuff, just a different day.

26 Sep 2015 18:12:28
Indian, we showed no penetration? We scored three goals! I'd hate to be in bed with you if you don't know the meaning of the word.
I was at the game. We had a lot of possession and got in behind their back line on many occasions, the problem was, final delivery, crosses, taking too many touches, hesitant play etc are far too common. Villa were pretty poor as well. Encouraging that we won, but a better side would have beat us today no problem.

26 Sep 2015 18:46:25
Mate did u see Arsenal,Utd,City attacking when they are in posession?How many overlapping runs did u see in today's game when Villa were very compact?
How many times did we have to see our wingbacks pass back the ball to the CM who inturn passed sideways with no option infront of them or when our wingbacks were trying to hopelessly put the ball into the box.Villa were happy to concede the posession even when they were 1-0 down.

Who do u think played Can in RCB position?And why did we concede our first goal? I agree that sometimes Goals conceded is down to pure individaul mistakes but whose fault it is in the first place to play such defenders?

OK Sakho was decent compared to others but great was an exagerration.

26 Sep 2015 16:26:24
What a goal Danny boy! Nice to have you back! More of the same for the rest of the season please 😃👏 and for goodness sake stay fit!

26 Sep 2015 16:20:40
Stttttuuuuuuuurrrrriiiiiiiiddddgggggeeeeee!!!!!

His first goal for us in over six months!!!

Cmon, Daniel, make it three!!

26 Sep 2015 15:10:29
Starting to think we might have committed an act of robbery in signing Ings.

26 Sep 2015 15:50:22
Like the lad a lot, pace, skill, work rate and scores goals.

26 Sep 2015 16:52:47
Yes Mate
Am liking the look of ings ,reminds me a bit of kuyt ,great engine aswell ,keeping sturidge fit is the key ,2 goals conceded but two quality crosses to be fair ,but we all prefer attacking high pressing entertaining football than what we've been watchin recently ,mangers come and go ,but we fans stay forever ,,a win is a win -red til were dead -YNWA

26 Sep 2015 14:57:41
Good to see that the Villa boys have turned up in Klopp tracksuits as well

26 Sep 2015 12:54:34
Hi eds and reds,

All this talk of playing with a back three has got me thinking.

Our main concern with our full backs is that they are strong going forward but suspect defensively. This is what I believe has led to Rodgers and some here favouring playing 3 CBs.

However, as Ed001 so eloquently explained earlier this creates all sorts of problems with organisation, and becomes very inflexible.

Another problem with this is that Rodgers refuses to change the shape if things are going badly, he doesn't see the problems and therefore can't fix them.

Watching us play 3 at the back always reminds me of what I believe to be one of the greatest tactical triumphs in our recent history.

Away at Juventus in 2005 Rafa picked 5 defenders. Finnan, Carragher, Hyypie, Traore and Riise. With Alonso as a playmaker and Biscan filling in any gaps.

Now, why I believe this was so clever was that these 5 defenders could easily interchange to a back 4 if needed. When attacking Traore would push out to left back Riise would push forward and give an extra man in midfield. When defending Traore would move into the centre to provide extra support against Del Piero and Ibra, with Finnan and Riise then marking Nedved and Zambrotta. If Del Piero dropped deep then we would revert to a back four and Biscan picked up Del Piero. This meant that we would always have an extra man in Defence to close down the ball and marshal the defence into position.

I really do think that this was a tactical master class from Rafa that day.

Now moving forwards to today Rodgers has the ability to play such a system with the players he has, but instead refuses to do it.

Playing a back five of Clyne, Can, Skrtel, Sakho and Moreno, Rodgers has the chance to alter this system during the game to fit what is happening, but he refuses to do so.

Clyne could push forward into a right wing role with Can moving across to cover RB. Moreno could do the same on the other side with Sakho covering LB. As well as this Can can step forward into midfield and the full backs drop back to orthodox LB/RB.

If we are playing a team with one up top and wingers then we can go to four at the back and drop the full backs deep, leaving a man over. If the opposition has two up top the wing backs can push forward leaving the 3 at the back protected by a CM, once again leaving us with an additional man.

The problem however is that if Rodgers picks two at the back, it sticks like that and the opposition figure us out, if he picks 3 at the back he sticks like that and the opposition figure us out.

It is his lack of flexibility during a game that will be his undoing. He is of the belief that he can outsmart the opposition before the game and be 3-4 goals up by half time, which we can't at the moment, we can't score (which is another issue that I'll look at at some point).

The best teams, even most average teams will adapt their tactics constantly throughout a game and we need to do the same and counteract.

The players we have give Rodgers great flexibility, but he refuses to use it. And that is why he is failing.

Anyway, hoping for a solid game later and will be good to see a few goals scored for once!

Have a great day all!

Oh and for the rugby fans out there. Cymru am Byth!!!!

26 Sep 2015 10:34:25
Ed1 which players would you play in midfield that would be able to give us the balance to play two forwards?

{Ed001's Note - while Hendo is out, I would put Can and Lucas in central midfield and play Milner out wide, with Couts nominally on the left. Milner's workrate should be able to help cover. Personally though I would not play two up top while Benteke is out, I would play Ings from the start then bring on Sturridge when Villa are tiring, with Firmino as a deep lying forward off them.}

26 Sep 2015 11:21:16
Lucas and Rossitter in the middle with Can as the advance Midfielder.

26 Sep 2015 11:24:03
Firmino recovered?

26 Sep 2015 11:38:00
Looks like Firmino is out until after international break now Unfortunately. Couldn't agree more about Milner he as the work rate to play out wide he would also provide good cover for Clyne.

26 Sep 2015 13:30:15
I agree with Ed for most part. Milner is a lot more effective outwide whilst we have players of equal ability in the centre. Isn't firmino injured? I'd play sturridge from the off that being the case.

{Ed001's Note - oh yeah I forgot.}

26 Sep 2015 10:42:06
I hate to be an harbinger of doom but we have a problem today.

I have to be at a family gathering this afternoon - so what's the problem with that ? Well every time we have had such a gathering over the past 40 years or so Liverpool have always lost - including the FA Cup Final against Wimbledon in 1988.

Hopefully, this sequence has to end sometime - maybe today ???

26 Sep 2015 11:12:30
Postpone the Gathering.

{Ed001's Note - for once I agree with Harry, what kind of family gathers during a Liverpool match anyway?}

26 Sep 2015 11:25:02
Lols Ed01, Are you a regular visitor at the Irish Village in Dubai? You could find plenty similar passionate like you. They hardly listen to anyone.

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about, but I do listen, it is you that never takes any notice and just repeats the same notice over and over. I spend my time learning off people who know what they are talking about, listening and learning from their experience, whereas you just shout about your latest knee jerk fad with no time taken to understand it and figure out if it actually makes sense.}

26 Sep 2015 11:25:09
The Manchester voodoo family

26 Sep 2015 11:40:18
Common I was kidding mate. You are my teddy frnd. Ed01

{Ed001's Note - oh god, now I am scared!}

26 Sep 2015 13:32:58
I've never wanted our team to lose but must say if we do and it hastens Rodgers' departure than I can deal with that. short term loss for the long term gain. The sooner his reign ends the better it will be for the longevity of the club.

26 Sep 2015 14:15:48
Feel the same way Swish, hoping for a 5-0 today with a Sturridge hat-trick,but if another bad performance and result makes the owners take decisive action to arrest this decline, so be it. Come on Red men!

26 Sep 2015 09:04:48
There seems to me to be a massive issue in schools, clubs and these so called centre of excellence in that they are stifling the creativity of young children. In schools it is to focus on results but they aren't allowed to express themselves within a structure that is motivating and rewarding.
It is the same in football and especially at Liverpool. There is no creativity any more except the odd coutiniho moment. No one is allowed to express themselves any more. Jordan I be is the perfect example. He has been overcoached to not take chances and run at people. We need match winners not perfect sideways passers. People who move into space and see a pass not stop in front of the defensive line and then drop back. The reason there are so few match changers is because it is coached out of them. Give the team a structure and individual game plan with plan b and c for various situations but allow flair players to show their flair without fear of failure.
The thing is I think this is stating the obvious but BR and many others see it much differently.
I want to enjoy football so do children, supporters and the players.

26 Sep 2015 09:16:43
No one is allowed to express themselves any more??
This is rubbish, Countinho is not treated Separate by the manager to express, Its his skill and excellent ability that makes him a stand out player from other one dimensional footballer who need instructions to do.

When Scholes had the ball with him, It was his game from that moment.

{Ed001's Note - you really do not understand the game at all Harry. I suggest you go and watch lots of different sports and try and gain some insights into movement etc. Things like basketball will allow you to see close up condensed shots of good movement to create space in tight situations and how to utilise flair within a team framework. Only it is clear that right now you see everything with blinkers on and no understanding of what is happening on the pitch. Maybe watching a few different sports, where you are not biased so can watch it with a clear head, might enable you to learn how to analyse what is actually happening.}

26 Sep 2015 09:53:44
off the ball movement is more important than on the ball movement. coutinho is a good player, bt he can be even better witht the support of the other players around him.

his passes often found sturridge and suarez in the past as they were both on the move all the time, they don't stick to a position. now coutinhos incisive passes are nearly non-existent which pretty much emphasizes what ed001 is saying, so i agree.

26 Sep 2015 10:40:37
I've been playing handball for a few years now and you come to realise the timing of runs is everything in handball. In attack the team drives forward as a unit rather than one player driving. If one player drives forward they need to pose a threat to the opposition and draw in defenders to them to create space for another player. It's about trying to create space and gaps in the defence by moving the ball fast, but driving forward to draw defenders into you to create space for your wider players.

I think the basic problem with Liverpool is the team aren't driving forward together and the passing is too slow. I mean a player driving forward with the ball is good, but if he has no supporting runs from the midfielders around him, he'll just end up isolated. I guess that's is why Rodgers passing tactics never work, because the off the ball movement just doesn't seem to be there.

26 Sep 2015 10:45:20
Ed001 mate when are you and Harry doing a podcast?
You two sound like a bad sit com hahaha

26 Sep 2015 11:03:58
Everton football club are mopping up the talent of the city as always

I guarantee, through that method, that they will always have a fundamental core of a side which Liverpool have neglected.

Liverpool need to pull their fingers out and encourage a core of scousers in the team.

26 Sep 2015 10:45:20
Ed001 mate when are you and Harry doing a podcast?
You two sound like a bad sit com hahaha

{Ed001's Note - hahaha.}

26 Sep 2015 11:25:42
Very soon Mikey

26 Sep 2015 13:47:09
Id pay money to listen to this!

26 Sep 2015 07:45:34
Can someone please explain the reasons why FSG are not keen on Klopp ?

When FSG first came in, we were told they admired the Dortmund model for success and would be trying to replicate it

26 Sep 2015 08:10:46
BR wonr be going anywhere fast trust me.

26 Sep 2015 09:07:22
And Y do you think Klopp would accept our job in the first place? He has options on the table and he could choose anyone from it, We should be in the bottom half of his priority list in any case.

26 Sep 2015 09:11:53
Nonsense. We don't know if he will take the job because we haven't asked him, so how can you claim to know what Klopp's priorities are Harry? Stop embarrassing yourself lad.

26 Sep 2015 09:13:00
No one knows - pure guess from me is that he is a bit of an unconventional character, colourful, charismatic, my way or the highway kind of guy, speaks his mind out with a crazy dance. A person you would see more in the show biz than say as a head of primary school. Some owners are a bit too conservative for that. I remember when Ferguson left, there were rumurs Mourinho is desprate to take his job in ManU but the borad there said he is not the United way bla bla bla and went for Moyce as the more dignified soft conventional option. well we have seen how did that work.

26 Sep 2015 09:31:51
What would be a Manager's priority AG? If he has an option to choose from Arsenal and Liverpool or Bayern and Liverpool. Its a straight forward choice and Common sense.

{Ed001's Note - and when was he offered the choice? In the summer he would have had the choice of Liverpool or the sabbatical. Not the same thing. Now please stop trolling for a few hours and take a break before you have an enforced one, as I am bored of you right now.}

26 Sep 2015 10:23:44
What? When was Klopp offered the Arsenal or Bayern job? When was he offered the Liverpool job? You either have trouble expressing what want to express or you have some of the weirdest notions I have ever come across in a sports fan.

26 Sep 2015 14:26:11
How do Harrys posts keep getting posted?! Mostly complete nonsense. It's like the ramblings of a 5 year old football fan!

25 Sep 2015 21:26:56
Hi,

Question for Ed1 if he's around. If we are talking to other managers, as has been suggested, does that mean that Rodgers is as good as gone regardless of the next few results?

If so, why haven't we removed/replaced him already?

Sorry if this is a hard one to give an exact answer to I'm just looking for your opinion.

Many thanks.

{Ed001's Note - no it just means they are preparing for the eventuality he goes.}

26 Sep 2015 06:46:00
They may well give him the opportunity to resign.

26 Sep 2015 08:38:01
Liverpool could get relegated and I don't believe that arrogant fool would resign.