Liverpool Banter Archive April 27 2012
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27 Apr 2012 23:32:03
Facts you must know about marcelo bielsa this season. FACT#1:appointed as manager of bilbao without buying any player and is doing a great job presently.FACT#2:knows how to bring the best out of his players.perfect examples:muniain,llorente,susaeta,martinez and so on.FACT#3:gives youngsters chance to prove themselves,ewample muniain(19yrs).FACT#4:Taken bilbao to two cup finals(europa and spanish kings cup).FACT#5:spoken highly of by great coaches an example is guardiola who once said he (bielsa) was his mentor and also said they share the same footballing philosophy.he was also once touted to take over at barcelona.With all these facts,if kenny was to go in the summer,i think he would be a perfect replacement.thanks for your time.
He doesn't speak english though does he?
athletic bilbao have lost as many league games as lfc as well this year.
'great cup manager'
oh yeah, we've already got one of them and he's won the english league a few times too.
if it's stick or twist i'll stick thanks
He's also Coached them to 10 loses this season and 40 points off top spot
FACT!
Pretty similar to KK's Record really
Buy without a Trophy yet
Lyndon
Yes but why would he leave after a year with a much better side.dont get me wrong i would love him but dont see it happening.DORSET RED
27 Apr 2012 23:28:47
I have been a Liverpool fan for over forty years and I have to say I am not sure whether to laugh or cry at some of the postings here. Who do we think we are? We have to recognize that, outside Anfield, no-one considers Liverpool to be a major club at the moment, so why should some of the names frequently mentioned wish to come here? For the chance of Europa League football sometime in the future? And though it pains me to say it, the biggest block to progress is our manager. He is the Day Before Yesterday's Man. Has he shown that he still has the Midas Touch? No. Can he attract big names in today's market? No. Is it time to say Thank You for everything, Kenny, and move on? Yes. Who should be our manager? Someone young, bright, hungry and forward-thinking, working alongside real Liverpool people like Carragher and Gerrard. What we have at the moment feels tired, laboured and way off the pace. I hope we can start to put things right this summer.
Well said,hear hear !! B
Nauseating
Squirrel
27 Apr 2012 23:06:56
Stevie interview on late late show was recorded. Should be in squad for Norwich .
Mick 1980
Same. wish i was there!!
Shanio1
27 Apr 2012 22:50:55
I urge you all to find an amazon review for veet hair removal gel and try not to burst out laughing.
It's gone viral so you should get it from a google search. Absolute genius!!
Ultra red
Funniest thing I've seen this year ... good shout!
dd
For the record, dont do it with deep heat either. I did, for a bet, and it was the worst hour of my life.
TK-Red {Ed001's Note - crab cream as well, a mate of mine slapped the whole tube on at once, instead of the small doses every few hours, he was rushed into intensive care. Thing is he put the cream on while a whole load of us were downstairs waiting for him to go on a night out, all we heard was screaming. His sister went up to see what was wrong and came down laughing too hard to phone an ambulance or tell anyone what was wrong!}
And definitely don't cook chilli, then go for a leak after adding a bottle of insanity sauce. Gordon Sumner's message in a bottle took on a whole new meaning after that for me...
Cuchulainn's Hounds
I just read it whilst my 5 week old daughter is asleep on my chest, i have never laughed so hard without any sound coming out. Tears streaming down my face with a baby bouncing up and down through silent giggles.
27 Apr 2012 22:41:49
We have 1 trophy, going for a second. What will arsenal, spuds, Geordies, chavs and 1 of the mancs teams be doing at the end of the season?
Getting paraded in an open top bus showing off their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th placed 2012 certificates?
As for the bitters, expect a betamax video of the season out if they finish above us.
Ultra red
Don't forget that Chelsea still have the biggest match of the year to play! I would never instantly assume who is going to win after 2005 buddy!
GOD
I get your sentiment and hope you are right but, be careful...Chelski--out of nowhere--could suddenly be in possession of 2 very big prizes.
Let's hope not...but, just sayin'
27 Apr 2012 22:31:28
If people think KK is going at end of season, & we have no DoF, how can we possibly be linked with any players?
Gav the RED
27 Apr 2012 22:23:30
I have heard that Kenny was at the game Toulouse Montpellier,i wish it s not true!belhanda,sissoko or giroud are not good enough for us.i am french and don t want this player,our league is poor!for exemple girond remenber me gygnac,2 good seasons and nothing.look at deutch,south america..We can buy great player coz new owners and we are Liverpool,even no CL it s a pride to wear the famous red shirt!Liverpool my love.great site,thanks.jft96. Nico
Remember Newcastle's signings ?
27 Apr 2012 22:16:08
ed do you see carragher retiring at the end of the season and kelly going back to cb so we have skrtel n agger then kelly and coates as backup.also if that happens would we look at a established rb or a youngster.DORSET RED {Ed002's Note - I suspect that CArracgher is planning another year.}
You are joking me DORSET RED
He's staying for one more year, Dorset mate. Because we never replaced Sammy Lee and need someone to put the cones out.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Haha good one blair he can have another year but only cup games.DORSET RED
27 Apr 2012 21:55:20
Some random observations...
i) Man! Do I ever miss LFC being in the CL...we need to assemble a team that is capable of getting back in there...and FAST! A club of our stature should be penciled into that competition year in and year out...NO EXCUSES.
I miss LFC being in those games and me, being a nervous wreck for the week leading up to the match, being a bundle of nerves during the match (replete with heart palpatations) to be followed by pure joy and relief when it is all over...knowing we won!
SIGH! :(
ii) For all those who keep whining that the only way to be competitive is to spend big money...explain why Real and Barca are watching on the sidelines? Granted no team is going to win every match or every tournament but, by the same token, where are the big money players when they are needed most?? It's nice that Messi or Ronaldo can pop in several goals each game...against lower table teams...but, where were they when it really counted?...not just this CL but, last World Cup?
With big money comes big expectations...and far too often, these players do not deliver when it REALLY matters.
Sure, they are great players and I'd rather have them on my team than not but, the point here is that spending ridiculous sums of money--just for the sake of it a la MANC--does not guarantee winning.
This is why the top priority for LFC should not be any one particular player...but rather, an intelligent, thinking, scouting staff with vision. People who can spot that diamond in the rough--not the lazy, staff we have who are so sorely lacking foresight and who can only come up with regurgitated names like Adam, Henderson and Carroll. What the hell were they thinking??
Give me a team of decent players but, who all have an incredible work ethic, a will to win and who take pride in themselves and wearing the LFC shirt and I will guarantee you we will have more cups than we know what to do with. Other teams who have far less money than we do are capable of doing this...why can't we?
Talent alone is not the answer any more than throwing gobs of money around is the answer.
That's why I go back to the importance of a quality scouting staff who can identify talent and who can properly assess the worth of a player so that management can spend wisely...instead of the pattern we've been following in recent years where we just indiscriminantly throw around crazy money.
We can snicker at Chelsea and Manc for their crazy spending but, really have we been any better?
iii) Hate to admit it but, Chelsea have been on quite a roll. They've pulled off miracles during a very, very tough spell of important games. I hate them so much!
Let's hope we whip them in the FA Cup and we beat them at home...and that loss keeps them out of the CL next year (goes without saying we will be Bayern fans until the CL).
That would be sweet!
iv) What an absolute disgrace Drogba is...can't stand that guy and his play acting. Worst offense: remember the EPL game when the camears clearly showed him rolling around and then stopping and peeking through his fingers to see if the ref gave him the call...as in is it o.k. for me to stop now or should I continue with the theatrics until I get the call. Absolutely pathetic.
Never understood why referees are not given an opportunity immediately after the game to watch the tape and to retroactively hand out red and yellow cards.
If FIFA is really serious about eliminating diving and attempts to con the referee, it is easy to do: when players get caught, make the penalties severe enough to be a true deterrent including the option for retroactive punishment by the game ref. The problem is, they aren't serious about it and so, the beautiful game continues to look farcical.
There! Got that off my chest...now I can get back to work!
Red (Not Blue) Lenses
So in your thinking we are better off buying crap beacuse the big name players cant do it whenit counts. I.e Messi or Ronaldo. Do you ever think it was them players who got them there in the first place. Stupid reckoning. IMO
Very good post.....spot on about the need for good scouting as opposed to lazily throwing money down the drain.
ANFIELDPETE
Not sure that is what the post is saying...and if you read more carefully, you would get that. The post is simply a counter argument for those who believe the only chance of winning is if we are buying $50 million players on $200,000 weekly pay packets.
Far more important than buying big name players is buying QUALITY players...the two things are not synonymous...thinking they are is what is actully stupid.
Red (Not Blue) Lenses
27 Apr 2012 21:34:42
Hey Macca
Following recent indications are we trying to sign Moussa Sissoko and Gaston Ramirez? I just your views over anyone a you are always right.
Cheers Benno W
27 Apr 2012 21:07:16
As I said 2 weeks ago mourinho will be our next manager
Thanks for the information. I await with enthusiasm the report of t
he worlds first flying pig and the return of the fully formed snowball from its trip to hell .
Red4Life
He just signed a new contract till 2014 which gives him even more power at the club so i highly doubt it. S
Sign your posts mate and be the New Macca. The guy could do with a break, considering how much sh!t/flack he gets.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Mourinho doesn't want the Liverpool job a his interest in England is either Man U ( his preferred choice) or Arsenal. Must be said though that he did mention spurs and everton at one point.
Normally I'd say Man U is his destination but Gaurdiola is Fergusons preference and Mourinho's fate could possibly be down to what influence Ferguson has when he eventually retires.
Spurs for me would be worth a punt considering Wenger doesn't look like to retire or leave anytime soon but this I suppose would be dependent on wether spurs can keep hold of their current stars and have resources for major investment. Currently their wage bill is getting more and more worrying and it's only a matter of time before their bubble pops.
Liverpool would be an extremely utterly shock u turn from a man who doesn't like the club or it's fans.
In a scale of 1 to 10 ( 10 being a positively yes) and would say a 1.
The manager of what?
Regardless of whether he wants to manage LFC (and he doesn't for the record--thinking he does is the most ridiculous idea ever), WE do not want him here.
Could you imagine the disruption he would cause? He would shred the already fragile finances of the team and then disappear the first hint that things aren't going his way.
Anytime a manager is bigger than his players or the club (at least in his mind and in the view of the media), you are courting disaster.
Who cares what the Special One wants; WE don't want him. Let him be special somewhere else.
Red (Not Blue) Lenses
I told you all about 2 months ago that he will be manager of united next season even if that t**t Fergie wins the league or not Fact those of you that laugh at me remember my name because I will be back on to ram those laughs down your throat I wish I was wrong but it is 100 percent done deal . Fergie will not say that he is going to retire because last time he did the team went on a bad run and they won't risk that again ! It's the owners that have decided as they know if they don't take him right now then city will get him ! Maybe macca knows something about this ? I know it's not Liverpool but the man is clued up on football and people should not doubt him! Also check out the odds at bookies 5/2 they are not stupid !
27 Apr 2012 20:49:08
this club loves to financially exploit its fans and it's sad to see. ian ayre is a creature.
Hey ed,
How comes the pies at Goodison are about ten bob cheaper than at Anfield ?
The Real KB
Nature of the beast
Sink or swim
Peter
Because KB, the anfield pies contain beef & potato, where as the Bitter pies are 100% rat.
Ultra red
Why are the pies cheaper, the beer cooler and the football better? why is that.
27 Apr 2012 20:43:18
Ed what do you make of the reports saying we bid 20€ mill for Ramirez. {Ed022's Note - Lies, as per usual mate.}
27 Apr 2012 20:38:21
after watching bilboa over the last few months an barca an also real the last couple of years an also spains domnation of international football as well fsg and anyone one else in eurpean football must looking at spain an asking what are they doing there to produce so many class players an quality teams!
with rafa we had a manager who was well placed to tap into this talent and gets some great players until h+g pulled the plug on his spending!
we should bring that former barce dof who i carnt spell his an defo carnt say his name haha.
a spanish manager would definately help bring the likes of muniar lorrentie soldado martinez ect.
a refreshed rafa after his long sabatical would work for me!
dean mcc
{Ed022's Note -
27 Apr 2012 20:22:26
My Team Next Year
Sell Reina Buy Lloris
Lloris
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Lavezzi Gerrard GastonRamirez Hazard
Suarez
Soldado
In my opion its a solid defence
lavezzi and hazard quality wingers ramirez great playmaker
gerrard all round quality
suarez great creator
soldado great poacher
in my opinion lloris no more than 15 m
lavezzi 30m
hazard 30m
solado 20m
that means we would have spent 95 m and got amazing wingers and striker for the price we got carroll , hendo etc .....
im opinion that team would be challenging for the title ...
I didn't knew Gastn Ramirez was a free agent. Perhaps, you forgot to pay Bologna for Ramirez. lolz :)
Hazard? Same day he's linked with Man City? Top team, high wages. Mid table team, above average wages. Hmmmm. Let me guess? He was a boyhood Liverpool fan who is sentimental?
27 Apr 2012 20:13:00
In my opinion Daglish should step down at the end and we should appoint Benitez again ......
He would surely bring in some spanish talent Ie: Llorente , Munain etc ....
He plays better football than daglish in my opinion under daglish we are lacking a poacher which i feel daglish wont bring in were as rafa will most probably see that there is room for improvment and hopefully bring in right player to get us into the champions league .....
Just my opinion thoo ...
Without agreeing or disagreeing on the manager subject, Benitez has NEVER EVER played better football. Negative boring rubbish. I used to hate watching us, whether we won or not
To be fair, Benitez was European football mainly .. Tactical football that's defence minded, hence the lack of shots hence many bore draws. We was lucky that he got us a prolific striker who's talented as well as poaching. Should Benitez still be in charge today then I'm pretty confident Torres would still be here. Remember though how many strikers Rafa bought Before he got it right?.
Dalglish is old school Liverpool styled.. Taught to him by paisley, fagon, Evans etc etc who believe in attacking football. That's why you see mainly 20 shots on goal at every game but chance of loosing through counter attacks.
Who knows maybe Carroll could show his potential next season or maybe Dalglish may find the new Torres.
To be honest I prefer the Dalglish style football and do think it will be hugely successful once the final ingredient is added.
27 Apr 2012 20:25:01
He eds and fellow lfc fans im going to be in liverpool for the fa cuo final and was wondering if anyone had any tips in where i should go to watch it while im there?
Thanks! S
The Sandon
Jack the Groove
Try anfield there showing it £5 adults £3children
Yes i just heard about the anfield thing booking it tomorrow thanks! S
First National James Street
Like Anfield Away From Home. Quality
Knowsley Red
Ok so would people reckon going to the kop would be good? Dan
First Nationals great
27 Apr 2012 20:05:40
To Blair Mayne-
Thanks for encouraging the flutter mate. Got 3 bets going at the moment
Wigan, Wolves, Villa to go down 80/1
Wolves, Bolton, Villa to go down 50/1
Wolves, QPR, Villa to go down 40/1
Cheers
K. Bennett
Ps, if any come through I owe you a drink mate!
Villa won't go down, it will be wolves blackburn and qpr
No probs K mate. I think that QPR and Blackburn, will go down with Wolves. If we didn't get most of our points before the turn of the year. You could have got us in amongst the betting. lol
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
27 Apr 2012 19:56:12
FYI we are not signing Honda. Our contract with Standard Chartered won't let us do it.
Live-On-Pool {Ed022's Note - ?}
Since when? Or have I missed something?
K. Bennett
Because Standard Chartered have an agreement with Nissan and Toyota and provide our squad with cars. Carra has 5 Nissan Micras, Stevie has 4 Toyota Priuses and Luis has a Partridge in a pear tree.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
27 Apr 2012 20:04:55
Team for LFC 12/13
Riena
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique
Lucas
Gerrard Aquilaini
Suarez(Free Role) Muniain
Soldado
Jones, Kelly, Coates, Bellamy, Hendo, Downing, Carroll
LOAN THE UPCOMING STARS:
Shelvey
Sterling
Suso Ect....
Suso is ready
Sterling is ready
Shelvey is more than ready
27 Apr 2012 19:38:54
Kenny at tonight's Ligue 1 match Toulouse - Montpellier
Toulouse - Moussa Sissoko
Montpellier - Olivier Giroud, Younes Belhanda
I dunno, who he want {Ed022's Note - He want cake, den he want some sausages.}
Come on ed, he has to eat his sausages before he can have dessert {Ed022's Note - You dare question the king!?}
I can only dream that its Belhanda!!
GuvTOB
I didn't know kenny liked sausages!!
27 Apr 2012 19:34:52
Makes me laugh these so call supporters.
Football is about silverware ( trophies ), those finals we tell our kids, grand kids about.
Can you all remember the 2005 final when everyone wrote us off a half time and then the greatest comeback in final history happened.
Remember Rafa won it with mainly Houliers team. Rafa then gave Europe a glimps of our name for seasons after. Our league positions was up and down and in all honesty we never looked like winning the league but in Europe we was on fire.
Then a bad season accured and the press convinced you we should get rid. Many then wanted him out.
Hodgson took the reins and to be blunt our football was appalling, defensive and shocking. He diddnt even want to back his own players when name calling from other managers.
Dalglish was wanted by you the fans and he steadied the ship as a caretaker.
He then brought in the old fashioned pass n move football that is the Liverpool traditional way that we lacked since the days of Evans.
Remember how long Dalglish was out of the game yet he still won trophy and another final in his first year.some fans think that changing a manager will instantly mean winning the EPL yet the truth is that any manager needs time to build the team he wants and develop a winning formula.
You have a manager who is a natural winner ( an original Mourinho) so give the guy the chance to show you he can creat a winning formula and win.
Football is about trophies and as Liverpool manager he has already won 10.
We are not a Chelsea, City, Barcelona or Madrid. We do go through managers for convience. We are Liverpool and proud and we always stay faithful and give our managers a chance. That's why we're respected.
Give him a chance.
Physic red
Great post mate. Hope FSG feel the same.
How naive, football is about money, slate me if you want, but thats the way of the world, yes silverware is great but even better is the prize money that comes with it, the higher we finish in the league the more money we get
Very sad little post above.
x
When dudek saved shevchenko's penalty did you cheer 'YEEES! think of all the money we'll get for this!'
how about when when dirk kuyt scored the winner against united in the fa cup this season?
did you not celebrate the 4-1 at Old Trafford because we didn't get any prize money for it?
football is about SO much more than money.
x
p.s. great OP by the way
May be sad, but that's the cold hard truth, you think fsg bought the club for a laugh or to make money, if you can't understand that there is something wrong with you
Sad but true, as a fan we want trophies but owners only want pound signs
we need to find a balance between the 2
The fans don't think about money, but how long after we won the champs league did the owners decide to sell, why do you think that was, could it have been that the club was at its highest valuation in decades, I may be sad in pointing it out, and some of you don't want to hear it but it's true, I love this club but im realistic, the world resolves around money
Trophies = £s
Fans are happy with new memories and owners get a few quid from extra games and finals.
Football is about silverware in a clubs history and not about how much the owners made profit.
Your a fan to watch your team in a final, talk about dodgy decisions or class goals.. It's not about " oh yeah we made a mill on that game".
Of the fans are happy then the money comes in. The more success you have then the more fans you will generate at that of course makes the club bigger.
Trophies are priority and that's what it's all about.
Physic red
''It's all about the money, d d dum dum d d d dum !! B
27 Apr 2012 19:32:45
One player Carroll should learn from is Zlatan Ibrahimović.. What a Top Class Player...
I'm not a Carroll fan but I dislike Ibrahimovic even more. I know his stats are great but I can honestly say I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen him impress me
Chris in Tamworth
Now thats a good joke
No he should definetly watch Llorente, different class last night
GawaRed
What and change his club every other year? The man doesn't know the meaning of the word loyalty. If ever there was a self serving football mercenary, surely it's him. Nick.
I have seen imbrahimovic against liverpool live 3 times, he has never done a tap, one of the most over rated lazy players in world football.
As i said before, llorente n Gomez r way better than ibrahimovic.
Indian Buzzer
27 Apr 2012 19:30:02
Question for Macca:
Macca do you think Suarez will stay in the summer Regardless what happens to Dalglish.
Thanks,
Charlesworth II
27 Apr 2012 19:28:59
Kenny Dalglish is in France watching
Toulouse vs Montpellier. No idea who hes watching. {Ed022's Note - He's watching Toulouse vs Montpellier I'm guessing.}
Nice !! B
27 Apr 2012 19:17:28
John Terry got sent off on purpose. He realized Pique was on the field and Shakira was home aline :p
Quality
red gaz
27 Apr 2012 18:22:39
Hey eds haven't posted in a while, don't think this has been discussed too much but any interest in siem de jong?
Shane K Lfc {Ed022's Note - None that we are aware of mate.}
27 Apr 2012 19:03:49
Evening eds fellow reds. I think we have more chance of mourinho .I think pep will take a season brake then take over at man s**t from old purple nose .cheers psv
27 Apr 2012 19:03:06
There are so many belters coming on here asking questions you would expect from someone who had only started following football 5 minutes ago it would drive me insane being an editor. It's like meetamong.com instead of Liverpool-rumours sometimes. Eds any chance of posting cyanide pills out to serial offenders, you would have this place cleaned up and sensible in no time.
27 Apr 2012 18:55:55
G BOX,hush ya gums! love it mate. Actually lol'ed when I read that. Better than my 'tuck your lip in' any day! Thank you for making me laugh,on an otherwise awful! WelshBoyDave
27 Apr 2012 18:54:31
more evidence that kenny will go at the end of season ! can anybody really see kenny being followed around by fox sports cameras when he has always hated any intrusion on matters concerning the team , i think it points to a new coach although kenny is my idol and his health should come first !
kopace
Well they will be there for the fa cup final, so yes i can see kenny being followed around
Yes i know he will be for the final , im talkin long term , its goin to be right in to next season
kopace
Is that the same kenny dalglish who is in france this evening scouting players for lfc at the toulouse v montpellier game?
Untill you have been told your services are no longer req then you do what your responsibilities are ...surley
Kenny has made it clear he will be involved, whether as manager or some other role.
27 Apr 2012 18:47:21
Don't think Pep would leave barca an say he needs a rest to them an then take another job on! He's defo stayin out the game for abit,he will prob be back there in 2/3/4 years cos there in His blood.
Kp
27 Apr 2012 18:34:11
By hook or by crook I have just received my ticket for the cup final F**K YEAH!
Unfortunately I'm in the Club Wembley section and am not allowed to wear my colours but my voice will definitely be heard!
My question is does anyone now what end or blocks the liverpool fans are in. My ticket is in block 238.
Also does anyone know where to go for a few bevies and soak up the atmosphere with the other liverpool fans at Wembley before the game?
Simsimo
Well done mate.
Both times at Wembley this season we've had the East side, so I imagine it will be the same. You'll get a great view from your seat as well. Enjoy.
The Real KB
The Wembley Tavern mate.Or from East stand walk accross car park at the back.Red boozer Accross the road just before the Bridge.Im in block 211 if that helps
On the bus up there is your best bet {Ed003's Note - Could always get a carry out from the offie's at the start of wembley way and join the others milling around on the grass area by the take away with the golden arches, :) }
238 is chelsea end
Cheers for the info fellas. Nerves are building already!
Simsimo
Ed 003 have to watch it with carry outs.Bizzies confiscate mate
We are East side KB
27 Apr 2012 18:30:03
Without jumping into the Guardiola bandwagon like a headless chicken, I have question for you?
If Alaba, a 19 year old, can not only play a UCL semi final at Bernebeu but also take a penalty kick in the penalty shoot out ahead of Robben, Muller and Gustavo, why cant we play our 19 year olds in a premier league game or two?
LiverBird
I think you need to ask that question to Kenny Dalglish!
RedSG
That was a good reply RedSG.
But whats your answer to the question?
LiverBird
Sorry Ed,
But that question was for you?
LiverBird {Ed022's Note - I apologise mate, Its my mistake. I think it's important to remember the cultural differences and the subjectivity of football with regards to style etc.}
Flanagan has played recently. He is only 19 isn't he? Shelvey is young too. I am sure Sterling will play in one of the next 2 games.
BthekingB
Never understood the "they need more time" argument. I think it's overdone.
Trevor Francis was in the Birmingham first team at 16. Has football really changed that much in thirty years?
Rooney was a regular at 17, owen at 18, gerrard at 19, giggs at 17, most recently chamberlain at 18, if they're good enough play them in my opinion
Did you see the size of Alaba! He's a big lad!
27 Apr 2012 18:06:03
Don't expect high profile managers like muronho,gurdiala or others .We will try to sign some other young and hungary managers like martinez,biesla and branden rogers etc. Martinez has more chances than others becquse he has premiere league experience and almost saved wigan from relegation which is least talanted side in premerie league. He knows value of money because he knows what is the scarcity of money.
Plz reply fellow lfc suppourters.
Dalglish not leaving
Bielsa is 56 lol
Biesla's not young and after the Hodgson saga i'd rather we didn't look down the table for a manager.
Here's an interesting idea.
Let's get rid of Benitez ( only ever won a league cup and err some trophy in Istanbul), then we can bring in Hodgson ( won loads in scandiavian countries) he doing amazing with fulham and made them a feared force in Europe. Ok footballs dire but he's gotta be better than Benitez right?.
Oh yeah this has happened.
Ok option 2..
We will get rid of Dalglish ( only won 10 trophies as Liverpool manager) because although in his first year he's won a cup and got us in a final ( we don't want trophies we only want to finish in the top 4), then we can replace him with a manager unproven in the premiership who win the league after he gets a team to settle which will only take a couple of years but I'm sure you fans won't call for his head either.
Mercelo Bielsea is 56 years old....
RedSG
I dont know any hungary managers ? whos there national manager ?
27 Apr 2012 18:00:27
Does anyone actually know 100% if KK is leaving at the end of the season or not? kinda pointless arguing about replacements if not no?
Lets just hope he stays.
Yeah the owners.
MIKEY
It's pretty obvious he probably won't be are manager next season
100% is he's staying. He also has the backing of Tom Werner.
Although a bad league results and position everything else is falling into place. Under Dalglish he's got us one trophy and another final in only his first year. Our wage bill has dropped dramatically ( although wages and transfer fees was Comolli responsability ) and we now play the Liverpool pass and move attacking football.
Remember that under all the glitter football is about winning trophies and we ARE doing this.
Dalglish has been out of football for such a long time yet he still gets us silver.
Dalglish is just warming up and youll see a stronger team next season with a challenge happening.
I know his press conference's are hit and miss but he DOES stick by his team and won't have a bad word said about the club he adores.
He's a winner and should be given more support from some supporters.
Thanks
Physic red
27 Apr 2012 17:19:07
Ed i see that more and more fans are moaning about they want kenny to be sacked (which is fair enough if you cant give someone a decent chance) after a poor league season so i was wondering when fsg bought the Red Sox how did the then manager do? did he get fired for a poor season? or did Fsg let him have a few seasons to see if he could sort out the problems and create a winning team because the only problem with LFC (albeit a big problem) is we cant shoot on target and make goals...
Many Thanks Ed
The Bailiff {Ed002's Note - He lasted a year or so.}
Its not down to the manager or coach in baseball , its down to the director or someone like that , if you have watched MONEYBALL you would see this
Grady Little. Sob, sniff. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. LFC fans who want to feel some bitter Red Sox pain should google "Game 7, 2003 ALCS." Brings a tear to me eye just thinking of it.
On the bright side, "the curse" was broken the following year.
JB
P.S.: any posters here going to the Fenway game?
He must not have made the top 4!
The Irish Rover
Generally when new owners come in they like to get their own choices in, with regards to Liverpool you have to ask if kenny is their man or was it the fans choice, think the answer is obvious
27 Apr 2012 17:17:10
Guardiola will NOT be taking the Liverpool job this summer. He is taking a break from football, so he says after he leaves the Barca role. I think we should give Kenny another season (when his contract expires?) then next summer try to pursue Guardiola for a managerial position with Txiki Begiristain as DoF.
A job like Barca is massive, at Liverpool he wouldn't be under as much pressure and would probably enjoy the task of working with some quality players and youngsters. It would be a nice challenge for him in my opinion, he's already spoken highly of the Liverpool academy, so who knows?
It's far fetched, but would it would be perfect if it comes to fruition.
Sikander
Just reading the first 5 words made me agree
Pep says he wants a break from football...so he could be Everton bound..smf
I don't comprehend what they don't understand about "Sabbatical". {Ed022's Note - Pah, people these days huh?}
27 Apr 2012 16:35:17
i think Kenny will get one more season and no matter what happens (except winning the league, :), he will become dof and after Pep has had a nice rest will become oour manager, (well a man can dream).. luv this site, be gentle it's my first post
He should have been sacked after the wigan game
We actually played better than manu,arsenal or the chavs against Wigan.
kidmillions
Man u arsenal and chelsea all above us , moral of us playing better against wigan than them , please explain.
The 2nd pOster is a muppet.
AnfieldUSA
27 Apr 2012 16:31:05
get real folks, guardiola is not comin, end of story.too be honest, whats he actualy done.....oh yea, thats right, he inherited ryjkards team with the 3 greatest players on the planet, messi,iniesta and xavi, added fabregas and sanchez and won everything! not that impossible realy when you look at it. he hasnt been tested at all in any other league let alone team! sorry guys but even if he was intrested, he wouldnt be the man for me.
would realy like too hear your views on this guys please.
molbys mom
This is what I hate about fans... Pep has done an exceptional job... Yes he inherited a good side, and yes work has been done before by cruyff, but he's the coach who has had them playing fantastic, consistently winning titles, and as messi has said made him the player he is today... He is a fantastic coach and I'm sure the next club he's at he will do a great job... Just look at AVB and RDM, same team, different results, it's all down to his great coaching methods and I for one will miss him coaching barca.
G BOX
Here we again, Houliier and Rafa now Pep too won everything with Rjkyaard's (sp) sqaud?
Messi was 21 when he took over! did u ever see him goin any other way than forward?
molbys mom
Give me evidence that he didnt and i will quietly go away!
molbys mom
He was 20 and look at his record under pep... Hush your gums you know f all!
G BOX
Absolutely no-one can knock a man thats won 13 trophies in 4 years. Regardless of what was inherited, what league, players etc.
Roy Hodgeson could do well with Barca seeing than they have tons of quality and work well together ...Molbys mom is correct
Molby, it's one thing having the right players but it's another thing altogether getting them to play consistently well together and to keep on top of massive egos while also recognising which massive egos, ie Ibrahimovic, will or won't work.
14 trophies in 3 seasons isn't it?
Your argument is far too simplistic
Chris in Tamworth
Actually he added Fabregas and Sanchez and didnt win anything. Well the 2 trophies he wanted to win. Molbys mom does have a point that Guardiola inherited a great team. Maybe Pep can see the end of a great team. Come to think of it, he even brought Ibrahimovich, who was a disaster.
The Irish Rover
OK, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY, if tony pulis was in charge of messi at the age of 21, do u not think messi would be the player he is now? pep guardiola was a very lucky man to have a player like that, the boys a natural genius and needs very little coaching! give pep the job of stoke on a january wednesday nite, lets see how good a footballing coach he is......
molby mom
Guardiola's undoubtedly a good manager but the job wasn't a difficult one when he came in. All he had to do was keep the players happy and given he was teammate to a lot of them it was pretty easy to do so. His transfer policy can be questioned: I don't know who Barca's current left-back is, Mascherano is a strange signing to play cb, and Eto'o + 30m for Ibrahimovic was just bizarre. I personally dislike the pass-pass-bore stuff Barcelona play anyway, and given his limited time in management this seems to be his "trademark" so to speak; taken elsewhere the system could be exposed without players like Iniesta, Xavi and Messi to play in it. And though this may be controversial to suggest, I believe that his resignation at Barca hints at a lack of moral fortitude and lack of desire to win trophies and build dynasties, as Ferguson and Wenger have done. Guardiola is certainly a good tactician and man-manager but I've seen nothing to suggest that he isn't vastly overrated in the general media for being at the right club at the right time
Red Ollie
All iam saying is, he is relatively raw and very young in managercoach role, hes not had another job too prove he can do it at the top, of course his record speaks for himself, lets not forget he took on the job of the best team in the world! lets see what he can do without all of those luxurys at his disposal....and lets not forget his coaching staff too.
Ok guys, youve all made valid points. my point is just because he took over the worlds greatest team and won everything, dosnt make him a great coach. look at inter milan, they won the champions league under mourinho....benitez came in...look what happened. EVERY LEAGUE AND EVERY TEAM ARE DIFFERENT, HE IS UNPROVEN.
molbys mom
14 trophy wins out of the 18 competitions entered (I think), says it all really. Yes he has some of the best players in the world at his disposal, but it's some achievement to get them playing in a system to get them playing to the best of their abilities.
RedSG
Well G BOX,
Molbys Mom is correct.
Without condemning or discrediting him for the 13 out of 18 titles, I would say that he got a rough diamond and then polished it.
I wouldnt say that he is yet to be tested in the other leagues but I will be eager to see him when he decides on hisnext assignment.
But believe it or not, I think he is very similar to Kenny as a manager....
Kenny carried on and achieved great heights as a manager with the pass and move philosophy set up by Shankley....Its a shame tht English clubs were banned from Europe bcoz we will never what heights Kenny would have reached with that team...
Guardiola has walked pretty much the same path.....
It would be a travesty were LFC to sack Kenny....You dont become a great club by hiring and firing of managers.....
Its pathetic that Liverpool fans, known to be one of the most knowledgeable in the world, have to share the platform with the fans in the internet who know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about football......
Most of the so called fans asking for Kenny's head and Carroll's departure are a DISGRACE to the club......
LiverBird
Liverbird, spot on mate. finally, someones talking sense since i started this debate....and i totally agree with everything you said about kenny europe.
molbys mom
I've always had my suspicions about who actually bought Ibrahimovic.
Any idea Ed002?
Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - The main reason for the Ibrahimovic deal was to rid themselves of Samuel Eto'o and, as you suspect there are some complexities which are not really for consumption in the public domain.}
Gaurdiola is not proven in any other country and could possibly fade out like AVB or rikaard ( spelling)..
Mourinho is by far more successful as he's proven in 4 different countries and doesn't rely on dof.
Unfortunatly we won't ever get any of them
Managing a team of stars is not as easy as some of you make out. Look at Villas Boas, or Scolari. This does not mean Guardiola would succeed at Stoke; it means he was a fit for Barca.
Second, his departure may have more to do with the fact that he does not get along with the new president and board, rather than some "lack of fortitude". His comment that he wants "distance" from the club is a revealing choice of words.
27 Apr 2012 16:25:30
After working with a team made up of the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Villa, Alves I can only imagine Pep must be jumping at the chance to mould players such as Adam, Spearing, Johnson, Carroll and Henderson at Liverpool!
Spoken like a true red. Backing his team to the hilt. Liverpool doesn't need supporters like you
27 Apr 2012 16:16:47
article here on Guardiola, seems likely to me that he'll take some time off after giving so much these last four years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17867892
27 Apr 2012 16:16:29
Not gonna happen, however i do admire Gus Poyet.
Yeah his side gave us real test at anfield
27 Apr 2012 15:52:54
no............... just before we get people start to ask if guardiloa is going to be the next liverpool manager. thats the answer.
max
Do tells us how you are 100% certain of your informtion Max
If you think he is coming go down the bookies and put some cash on it, it might change the odds on who will be manager next season, and then those of us who have a grasp of reality might make a few quid.
27 Apr 2012 15:48:05
Bad news, looks like Gerrard is out for the game tomorrow. He is over in Dublin and is a guest on the late late show. There is no way Kenny would let him over the night before a game if he was playing. Just tot i would let you know.
That interview was done thursday nite
The Late Late show is live..no recorded interviews
The interview was done thursday in a smaller room with just lfc fans, i was there.
You'll see tonite it was done yesterday like the Noel gallagher interview was more or less on the same time he was on stage in the 02 how's that
Dublin is half an hour flight
Not the other side of the world exactly
Gerrard probaly takes longer to get home from anfield on a regular day
As othe rpeople have mentioned, it was probably pre-recorded
they have just shown the promo ad for show, which showed the audience singing YNWA.
its very unlikely that you would get an entire Late Late Show audience full of LFC football fans, considering you have to book tickets months in advance :)
What a show!
John Bishop,
Stevie G
and Irish C&W Legend Philomena Begley :)
27 Apr 2012 15:46:06
Disagree - Megson
Agree - Mourinho
Megson and Mourinho for what - ritual blood sacrifice on the Kop to lift our goal (non)scoring curse? Can't imagine it's for anything else; either of these two clowns.
ND
27 Apr 2012 15:23:38
another copy & paste(apologies) but it is a really good read to the kenny dlaglish debate constantly going on here on whether he should stay or go? worth a read if you have the time.
WHY THE SACRED COW IS SACRED FOR A REASON
by Rob Gutmann // 26 April 2012 //
A Defence of the Realm - Part One
HARRY REDKNAPP's Spurs have won just one in their last nine and are fifth in the Premier League. Until about six weeks ago 'the greatest living Englishman's' season looked unimpeachable. Third in the table and mounting a challenge to the Manc duopoly, he appeared nailed on for the Manager of the Year thing. Now he faces a season potless and is pissing in the Champions League qualification wind.
He hasn't won an away match this year, and since Santa dropped his sack the campaign's become a right old balls up for Harold.
Still the press pack love him. Still Sky love him and, most significantly, the FA are so desperate to appoint an Englander that they'd have hired him for the big job and let him name his sides over the phone, direct from the jug, armed only with his last 20p. If only Her Majesty had had the pleasure.
King Kenny's Liverpool may finish seventh or eighth, with one trophy won, in the final of another, and a season of three Wembley appearances to reflect upon.
Unbelievably though, Dalglish will be planning his summer vacation while still unsure of his long-term employment prospects.
Against this backdrop there are some eternal truths that need dusting down and forcing again down throats. So, once more, for the benefit of the young, the old, the media, expertry of all denominations, and those who simply haven't been paying attention – this is Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish we're talking about here.
He's a man who doesn't fail lightly. When he does, it always makes him stronger. Failure is to Kenny as spinach is to Popeye. It rejuvenates and propels him back out there twice the man.
Failure must always punctuate success. It's necessary to define it. Without its humbling reference achievement seems shallow. If it's a prerequisite and crucial ingredient, it follows that it needs to be planned and prepared for every inch as much as for the glorious triumphs ultimately desired.
The greats know how to fail. To belly flop, roll and ride the punches. To take the pain but stand tall against the strain. To walk on through that bloody rain, Godammit.
Kenny Dalglish knows this drill. His legendary Boys' Own career is peppered with moments sent to test. His story is a cyclical and a neo-biblical one of rise- fall- redemption.
I was speaking to some (unjustifiably) smug Tottenham fans recently – they mocked that Dalglish was our 'Keegan or Hoddle' – the implication being that supporters were blinded to actual prowess by iconic status in club folklore. Kenny as vanity folly.
There's a difference though between Kenny Dalglish and other club's sacred cows.
In the last 100 years, only five human beings have as managers won the English Championship four times (or more). Only two have accomplished that feat with two different clubs.
Kenny Dalglish is one of those titans.
He is also the man to have most recently joined that elite of two. Of the big five (Chapman, Busby,Paisley, Ferguson and Dalglish) only Alex Ferguson has reached the precious four-title mark more recently than Dalglish.
Those needing to diminish the accomplishment will suggest that Dalglish inherited an all-conquering team.
It is true that Paisley and Fagan had been winning silverware for fun at Liverpool in the years that preceded Dalglish's stewardship. However, it is worth countering that Kenny took on the management job at LFC on the back of the club's first trophyless season in nearly a decade, with a team that had aged and was being dismantled.
Of the great defenders of the Paisley-Fagan era, Dalglish was to see minimal to no service from Phil Neal, Alan Kennedy, Mark Lawrenson or Phil Thompson. He did not inherit the team that enjoyed both himself and Graeme Souness as superstar fulcrums. Within 24 months of taking the manager's job only four of Kenny's main 14 players had been inherited from predecessors.
More significantly perhaps it is worth noting that Dalglish the coach was handed the baton at the managerially pubescent age of just 34 with no leadership experience whatsoever, and on the back of the club's (then) darkest hour following Heysel (85).
Some more context – Rafa Benitez is correctly revered by the majority of Liverpool fans. The Champions League win of 2005, the Cup win a year later and the second place finish with 86 points in 2009 were memories supporters of most clubs can but dream of.
But Rafa's six-year tenure was not strictly marked by a seamless ascent. Yes, of course, the European Cup was bagged against all odds at the end of his first season, but in win percentage terms he actually trails the Dalglish Mark II reign's first 68-game record.
No one with their senses intact would have shown Rafa the door at the end of his first 68 games (even if you don't factor in Istanbul), yet by the time Rafa had clocked up his first 68 he had a win percentage of 47 %.
Dalglish doesn't have a European Cup yet but he's won slightly more football matches – 49% of his 68 matches. Three visits to Wembley and possibly two trophies aren't shabby returns for a first 18 months' work either .
Let's also recall that the team Dalglish was bequeathed in January 2011 was one lying 13th and a handful of points points off a relegation place. Rafa may quietly be eternally grateful to his predecessor Gerrard Houllier that he did actually manage to scrape his lumbering latter day Liverpool side into fourth place and a Champions League qualifying position at the end of the 2003/04 season.
Both Dalglish and Benitez were given some funds in their early period and the net spends are quite comparable, unless we apply inflationary factors.
Although some may argue that Rafa in real terms had the greater net acquisition of players it is pertinent that Djibril Cisse was not a player he directly selected and that significant asset, Michael Owen, was not sold at the peak of his value.
Rafa's first 68 included some notable scalps at the very top of the European game – Juventus, Chelsea and AC Milan. Kenny's equivalent period is marked by no less a series of famous victories against teams of similar power – Man Utd (twice), Manchester City (twice) and Chelsea (twice).
Both Rafa and Kenny could boast victories over Arsenal in their early reigns, but Kenny can point to three straight derby wins (and a draw) to Rafa's one from two. Notwithstanding the incomparable winning of the European Cup by Benitez, all in all there's an even stevens feel to any comparison of the two manager's early machinations.
Despite this parity, Dalglish faces weekly questions about his team selections, his grasp of tactical fundamentals, criticism for a lack of goals, and is slaughtered for most of his recruitment of 2011.
Such is the breadth of scope of criticism you'd be hard pushed to keep in mind the respectable 49% win percentage and two cup final appearances. The club's time honoured mission statement – to win trophies – now apparently not an applicable benchmark. Silver is it seems a devalued commodity.
Even amid the euphoria of January 2011 when the grey clouds of the Hodgson era were replaced with the heaven-sent sun beam of Kenny's second coming, there were unspoken anxious mutterings that despite Dalglish's iconic status, he may, in the face of modern day football's harsh reality, actually be yesterday's man.
The 12 years since he'd been in top-flight management may have diminished his powers and antiquated his methodology to the point of near extinction.
Kenny's Napoleonic first 100-ish days dispelled most initial doubts. By May 2011 he'd taken Hodgson's 13th best team in the country and turned it into the Premier League's third best performing team (in points per games terms). Kenny was back. Kenny could play three at the back. Kenny could do 4231, 442, 451. Kenny's team was tactically flexible. Kenny's team could defend, score goals, keep the ball on the deck, and play some of the freest flowing stuff we'd seen at Anfield, since, well, Kenny.
All this without official best player Steven Gerrard (injured) and having lost Gerrard's other half, Fernando Torres. All this with a typical midfield of Maxi, Spearing, Lucas and Meireles. As far a cry (on paper) from 'Alonso, Gerrard, Mascherano and Sissoko' as one could pick from a list of great Liverpool midfielders of the past 20 years.
So, Kenny was back. Not withered by time. Sharp and savvy as ever. Suddenly those four league titles didn't seem so long ago. Despite a more mixed bag of results over the first six months of the subsequent season (the current one), by the beginning of February 2012 as Liverpool lay fifth and within a point of a Champions League place (and in a domestic cup final for the first time in six years), things still looked very much on course.
What has happened recently has not been pretty. There's no sugar coating that two wins in 11 league games represents the stuff of nightmares for a team and a manager with the loftiest of ambitions. Kenny has gone from canny to clueless in a matter of weeks – from peerless to pathetic in the eyes of many of the more gleeful press predators.
It matters little to many that this sorry league run has actually been punctuated by four crucial cup wins (including final and semi final wins), nor that Liverpool were desperately unfortunate to lose some of the league matches in that dreadful run (the recent travesty of a defeat at West Brom's hands emblematic of a truly perplexing season).
It has been posited since the league slump set in that 'relegation form' is de facto unacceptable and proof positive of a busted flush. The corollary is that no mitigation can be provided by silverware or its imminence. This view, like others that are precipitously rushing to abdicate the King, would do well to note the following selection of periods of unadulterated 'relegation form' served up by some greats of yesteryear :
1980/81 – 2 wins in 9 – Bob Paisley
1981/82 – 2 wins in 8 – Bob Paisley
1984/85 – 2 wins in 11 – Joe Fagan
2004/2005 – 3 wins in 11 – Rafa Benitez
The sacking of Damien Comolli in March suggests that even the club's top brass may be getting their heads turned by a horrible spring.
It undoubtedly grates that Kenny is now forced to justify his work with reference to the fact that despite the fall away in the league that the season has still born witness to the return of good ol' fashioned trophy-winning.
The apt witch hunt that drove Roy Hodgson from the Anfield kingdom after just six months as a Liverpool manager may have blinded too many to one of the club's most cherished of traditions – giving an appointment trust and time.
Even since the glory days became a distant a set of memories, modern day Liverpool custodians such as Gerard Houllier and Rafa Benitez proved worth the wait. Both good men with track records in the game, who, came, saw and left their marks on the club's history, and repaid allegiance with legendary campaigns and plenty more shiny metal vases.
Dalglish deserves to be cut more slack than Roy Hodgson. Much more. He deserves at least as much time and patience as Gerard Houllier was indulged. Rafa too. This would be so had his return seen only a modest improvement on Hodgson's record. Yet Kenny's more than fulfilled the initial stabilising brief.
He's written part of the club's story once again. If those that stand in judgement deem that he must leave soon, he goes with his reputation intact and his legacy unblemished. He's prevailed in his own glorious past, has succeeded since and, never doubt this, has the power to do so in the future. The fear must remain that if he goes now we will never see his like again.
That would be some shame.
s.p
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Patience the lost virtue.
Jatt YNWA
Can someone forward this to John Henry please?
Matt S - YNWA
Absolute top drawer article! If only the knee jerk fans could take a step back and understand exactly what Liverpool means to Kenny and what Kenny means to Liverpool and then, just then, they may begin to see a bigger picture rather than calling for replacements/sackings ludicrous signings that follow every defeat/draw! Given enough time Kenny will get it right! - T-Mac
Really enjoyed reading that.
Lee YNWA
I have to add my support !
Derry Red
Great article and they do a great podcast too. I look forward to hearing it every week.
Simsimo
Exactly what I was just about to say
Aintree Red
Completely agree! Give the man time! Time he deserves! Yes, we've under-performed in the league and KK knows that! But give his a chance to correct it!
LFC_SA
Excellent and fascinating. The com parisons are extremely revealing. No doubt those who would like a new manager installed after every bad result would have wanted Bob Paisley sacked too. Thanks for posting this article.
Red Owl
Very Bad post
Too much thought put into it
as a member of the twitter generation
The head of Dalglish must roll
Brilliant and insightful!
K. Bennett
Super!! Read.
kidmillions
Beautifully written
I wish more "internet" fans understood this article..
LiverBird
A truly brilliant post, well done sir....brought tears to an old mans eyes
tel 1949
Great post!..
Physic red
@MAT S W, original poster here. i actually considered forwarding it from my twitter account to mr henry oddly enough. i read it and thought seriously about it. only his lack of use of twitter actually stopped me!
s.p
Nice one s.p. I agree wholeheartedly with your comments.
ND
Absolutely amazing, that come from the heart, best message on this site that i can remember.
There has been no indication whatsoever John Henry or Werner do not appreciate Kenny. Some fans on forums such as this have called for his head after each defeat. I doubt they represent the owners.
27 Apr 2012 15:10:07
i honestly dont have any idea on why we kops hate charlie adam. hes a decent player yah but he hasnt had a good game or two but still i think he makes up a good player. we shouldnt sell him, lets give him some time like we are giving henderson. for me hes better then downing. lets give him a year more. he will play better with lucas. so lets support adam. cheers
redh0t
If we get rasmus elm you can say goodbye to adam
Mj
Nonsense......
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush...
Adam is a very good player......Its just sad that some fans without any football knowledge land up in this side giving useless and derisory observations
LiverBird
27 Apr 2012 15:09:15
I have copied below from BBC re. preview for Norwich game. I think it's interesting reading & shows that this is incredible bad luck. Admittedly clinical finishing is required but there is nothing to suggest these lack of conversions have come from just one player!
Most interestingly is that opponents are restricted by their shots as well suggesting the whole team play an excellent pressing game as well.
The reason for this is that it amazes me that there are so many calls for sweeping changes in the flu when quite clearly - a little tinkering would or at least might allow the team to start racking up points on the board. It is obviously frustrating but rash decisions about management or personnel seem extreme.
At any rate, judge for yourselves.
YNWA - NJV
ex bbc ....
The Reds have hit the woodwork 30 times in the Premier League this season, more than any other side in a full campaign since 2000 (according to Opta).
They have converted just 9% of shots into goals this season, the lowest proportion in the top flight.
The Reds have allowed their opponents just 120 shots on targets this term - the lowest tally in the Premier League.
Liverpool have won two of their last 11 top-flight matches (W2, D2, L7).
Kenny Dalglish's side have won seven away Premier League games this term - only the top three can better that tally.
Do we get points for hitting woodwork?
It shows we are not far from challenging for the top 4. Patients people stability brings success!
TSB
Nice one s.p. I agree wholeheartedly with your comments.
ND
@TSB,
How can you ask for PATIENCE when idiots (like in the second comment) isnt willing to budge from his viewpoint?
Like Fans who are good @ sitting on their sofas and slating the team just because they got an earful from their boss in the office or from their proffesor @ college.....
LiverBird
27 Apr 2012 15:05:34
Hi Eds
Look I'm sorry to beat a dead horse here but can someone please explain why Aquilani isn't in a Liverpool jersey right now? I've seen others ask the same question, only to be told "try the search function". Well the search function doesn't answer the question adequately. The closest answer I found was that doesn't want to play for LFC, which does nothing to explain why he signed for us or why we don't just force him to play or just sell him and have done with it?
If any light can be shed on this ridiculous saga I'd be most grateful. {Ed002's Note - I have no intention of opening up the whole tedious affair again. There is plenty to read about this in the archives.}
He signed or us, but for whatever reason he wasnt happy.Maybe he didnt like the weather or maybe it was a master stroke by him & his agent to get a nice wage increase & then play 2 seasons in Italy while Liverpool pick up the tab.Surely even if AC Milan didnt want him that some other Italian club would! I mean £6 million isnt a lot of money for an Italian international that has played pretty well for AC, is it?
The Irish Rover
I reckon he will probably end up in Florence when Montolivo goes to Milan.
Jatt YNWA
Wish aqua would fook off.
kidmillions
You answered your own question........HE DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR US! Force him to play? Seriously? Do you really think that is the way forward? And come on now, do you not think we have tried to sell him? Do you really think we like paying his wages while having no contribution on the pitch from him? You do realise that Juventus (and now looks like Milan aswell) took up loan to buy deals but then didn't go through with them?
K. Bennett
Give him the Pailey treatment and get him back, stick him in the reserves for two months then see if his attitude changes. He is a class player but one of the recent breed of superstars who want everything.
Who knows a few games with Suarez and he may learn a little humility and understand about the honour it is to be able to play for a club like ours?
Tel 1949
27 Apr 2012 15:02:05
Never thought I'd say this, but I actually feel a little sorry for Real.
Unlike Mourinho's Chelsea teams, I actually enjoy watching Real play. Maybe because of Alonso. But they are explosive, and thrilling when they attack.
I believe they blew it in the first leg, when they had the chance to put Bayern away. But sat back at 1-1, and conceded. In second leg, they just ran out of gas by the second half.
Nonsense
Germany efficiency won the day as usual
There not actually that good! Some really good players yes but it's a team game.
kidmillions
Bayern were efficient because they rested over the week-end for the match. Real played Barca in a title decider three days earlier. The results were obvious.
27 Apr 2012 14:41:17
Pep is not coming to Liverpool! 0.00% chance of that. Some people are delusional.
27 Apr 2012 14:40:34
Hey Macca,
I believe every word you say, but I will not believe your innuendo question on KK being moved or sacked.
When you are certain of the targets being watched and maybe (a possibility) of coming to LFC next season, it should not take a genius to figure out that it is KK pulling the strings now, and he already has the backing from FSG to plan for the season ahead.
To others,
FSG are sensible enough to realize the consequences of sacking KK,
1. The true and knowledgeable fans of football understand what KK has done to LFC. They have not forgotten the condition we were in when he came in to steady the ship. There would be huge uproar from this sect - mainly the long standing fans of LFC from 80s who support KK like me.
2. Breaking a team in reorganization by bringing in a new manager could send the club backwards with the forward ideas for atleast an year.
3. Financially, FSG will have to pay out KK, no matter how amenable the sacking may look in public. This would be utter nonsense financially, especially when KK only has an year left on the contract.
Considering these point, people like me who want KK to stay for next season, relax and overlook the knee-jerk reaction of fans.
Regards
mgz
PS - Thanks for the updates, Macca.
I never once said Dalglish would be sacked or moved upstairs...
Cheers
Macca
27 Apr 2012 14:29:16
Who would you rather have - Dalglish or Benitez?
Agree - Dalglish
Disagree - Benitez
Benitez i think he would do alot better with the funding but think of it like this would you rather a manager that wins champions leauge 1st season or carling cup and maby f.a cup 1 st season i know thats not how you compare managers but i like benitez more personally i was born in 91 so wasent lucky enough to see dalglish. STEMLOCC1
Its a really tough decision, both have good qualities and both have faults, Dalglish i think struggles when under pressure and all aspects of the Suarez situation affected him and the team more than he let on, but he can create a team ethic a unity. Benitez had some brilliant qualities we were very difficult to beat and he bought some great players although he also bought some turkeys too, tactically he was very good at stopping opposing teams but i felt his weakness was building an attacking team when we needed to therefore we had a lot of draws under him, which ultimately cost us the title, but you have to wonder what he would have done with money to spend. to sum up - score draw!
cobra.
I would rather have Michael Laudrup than either of them.
As an avid observer of footballing calamity...lol
KD or RB...strikes me you guys are deffo lovers of the maestros of sporting gaffe expertise...
No honest hats off ...pmsl:)))))
Love this place
Blue247
Arsene Wenger
Maestros of champions lge and 4lge titles. Plus a few cup final n recent semis of blue disposal
5GOLD STARS
Id like KK to bring Rafa back, I think they both respect each other and as long as you get the best traits of each (not the worst) it could be brilliant.
Would rather have Carra as manager than either of those two clowns
I would rather have Moyes, then i would know what it feels like to be an Everton fan and win................Nothing!!
The Irish Rover
27 Apr 2012 14:21:06
Couple of points.
I'd actually like to see KK given at least another year to turn things around. However I do fear for him given that Comolli has gone and our league position is terrible. So on to rumours
1. Rafa will definitely not come back in short term as Purslow is still heavily linked to LFC/Fenway as an advisor - I think this is a shame.
2. Bizarre as it sounds - every LFC fan should watch Moneyball - John Henry appears (Someone plays his part). he tries to get Billy Bean to go to the Red Sox to be General Manager (To be highest paid GM in league actually). For Director of football to work properly you need a Director of football and a team manager that can work closely. I'd expect that Henry is looking for this combination - and looking for the very best. Also I would have thought he would have announced his new DoF by now - which makes me think he's waiting until after FA cup final to announce big changes - ie new combination of DoF and Manager.
Thanks
Paulo
1. Disagree. I believe Purslow was fired. He has no influence.
2. Agree. Although I believe Moneyball has nothing to do with, DOF/manager need to work hand in glove.
3. I believe big announcements will be made after Cup Final.
Purslow is long gone. His advisory position expired at the start of the season.
27 Apr 2012 13:57:17
hi all. what i can not get my head around is all these rumours of players that are linked to our club liverpool. if we bought in every one named we would have a squad of 100 . come on guys lets face it it's all rubbish and iv been told this from my source within the club that we have at least 163 million to spend on top players at least 5-6 players will come in 5 to leave for sure. also can we stop all of this about are club getting a new manager at the end of the day we do not need one we have king kenny is heart and soul is with are club he is staying put . the next coming season we will have a team that will challenge for the tittle. remember the name l.f.c red
Did you pull a sicky from school mate?
Sorry come again. STEMLOCC
This is complete and utter rubbish. Why do you allow people to make such posts ED?
Do you need an Ed to tell you?
I am not an Ed but some people are justed f*ck*d in the head, like this poster above
Is your source in a comma?
AnfieldUSA {Ed022's Note - You mean a coma? A comma is a much different thing, and probably difficult to get inside of, much like a nun.}
Oh yes, totally my mistake. These touch screen phones mate! I try to type like my son and that happens..
AnfieldUSA
27 Apr 2012 13:52:34
lets get something sorted and be realistic, Pep Guardiola will NOT be joining liverpool, end of, so lets stop with all these crazy rumours
Pep Guardiola has quit BARCELONA due to stress, pressure, tiredness after four years of winning and destroying every team he came up against, playing some of the best football your ever likely to see, with some of the best players on the planet, how long do you think he would last at Liverpool? he would be exhausted after two training sessions, lets get serious Liverpool fans Guardiola is not a stupid man, if he came to Liverpool for an easier job then the world no longer makes any sense.
27 Apr 2012 13:45:10
Hi Ed(s). In your opinion do you think it would be a wise move for Pep Guardiola to take a year out of football while he is possibly so sort after due to being quite young and successful?
KernowRed {Ed002's Note - Sure.}
Would he be taking a year out because of his personal health? I seem to remember he was having problems with his back. Or is he simply after a career break to relax a bit.
MIKEY
27 apr 2012 13:07:53
macca, is the interest in llorente big as the interest in soldado? and what about muniain any news?
27 Apr 2012 12:55:57
All this talk of a tv crew etc, I seem to remember something on TV around the first Euro cup final about life inside LFC, would like to know does anybody else remember or am I having a grey moment?
27 Apr 2012 12:45:01
, Gaston Ramirez is from Fray Bentos.
3 cheers for Ramirez!!
27 Apr 2012 12:13:03
Sorry to keep pestering Ed but if you re- post this,promise wont ask again.Mate who sits infront've me Lower cetenuary aint got Ticket for Cup Final(Thank God,i have.He aint got a P.C so im posting for him)Hes desperate to go,as those who sit around him got tickets also.If anyone has one to sell,he'd be delighted to take off there hands.His name is Culley,and Ed002 has his phone number if you can help. Thanks everyone,particularily Ed.I thought he was gona cry the other day lol
27 Apr 2012 11:51:38
Ed, I wouldnt know how to go about this.But it would be Great if All fans could unite via this forumn and set the ball rolling with some sort've campaign/movement to ensure in big games,real fans, and not so many corporate/sponsors get tickets.Starting with the F.A,then moving on to games in Europe to Uefa.We pay through the earth,treated like s ite.And we have Stadias of 90,000,yet real fans get just over half the tickets.Ok sponsors etc are partve todays world,but its a joke.
70,000 tickets should be shared between between both clubs participating.I dont think thats an unreasonable requirement. {Ed002's Note - However correct it appears to be to give the vast majority of the tickets to the participating clubs, it is sadly not going to happen.}
I totally agree with your point but have just had a thought as I read it
Splitting 70,000 would be 35,000 tickets to each team...... WE and the likes of Utd newcastle and the like could sell these. If Wigan/Bolton (examples) can't fill their home allocation as it is.... At least 15,000 of their allocation at Wembly would be neutrals that just want to watch or live near these places and want to be patriotic to their hometown
So then the arguement grows to say we should be given 75% but who wants 53,500 scousers coming to town haha
Good point poster above.Maybe a sliding scale of tickets then,35k downwards,depending on demand of clubs involved.
27 Apr 2012 11:39:41
So, Peps leaving Barca then, come on FSG, do your job!!
FSG are doing their job.
Wake up to yourself!
The Wolfman
27 Apr 2012 11:35:04
Why does everyone seem to think that we need a team of worldbeaters. United are top of the league and who have they got that any of the worlds top clubs would break the bank for? Rooney perhaps, but there's nobody else.
What's needed is a decent squad of good, capable players who can do a job, and a manager who can make them work as a team.
All our successful teams consisted of just that, Kenny made a great team of Mcmahon, Aldridge, Beardsley, Houghton, Barnes. We won the double with Kevin Mcdonald (who?), Craig Johnson, Ronnie Whelan, Steve Nicol, Beglin etc. All good players but by no means world beaters. They just had a good manager to make them work.
All of Fergusons teams have been the same.
So please stop whining that all these £50m+ players will never come to Liverpool cause there's no champions league. We don't need them as long as our manager gets it right.
Kenny is got us playing some good stuff more often than not, light years better than the previous regimes, and that's after only a year, how long was Fergie given? 7 years?
Ok the points tally and position aren't acceptible, Kenny knows that, but that will surely change if the luck (which has been freakish) changes and we keep up the improvements.
So if we can't get the Guardiolas of the world, let's sit tight and let's give Kenny and the team our backing. He's the last manager to bring us league success. Give him time to find his feet. He's outwitted Fergie before, he can do it again. We've already improved. It can only get better.
Aintree Red
I don't recall us ever needing Maradona, Cruyff, Van Basten, Voller, Platini, Matthaus, Gullit etc. All considered some of the best in their day at a time when we were top of the world. ;)
Surely you dont think nani or valencia or scholes vidic are crap. STEMLOCC1
Rooney, Young, Vidic, Evra, Nani, Valencia, Carrick.
Imo, Carrick is the most underated player in the league.
Add to this the youngsters, Rafael, Smalling, Jones, Cleverly, Anderson, Welbeck and Hernandez.
You're deluded if you think United are a bad side, and i'm a regular posting Liverpool fan!
YNWA! (Adam)
Show me where I said they were a bad side, or that any of them were crap. FFS what am I dealing with. There should be another site for the less intelligent among us.
I've said quite the opposite. They're all good players playing for an excellent manager. None of them are what you would call world class, £50m + players. Carrick, Young, Nani and Valencia are not a Messi, Ronaldo, Zidane, Maradona, Cruyff. Has it gone in yet?
But they all very good and do a great job within a very good set up. Please read and understand before posting stuff that doesn't make sense.
Strewth
World class individual players help but ultimately it's a team sport and solid well knit teams with good sound systems are always the trophy winners. Look at what Pep did with Barca. He got rid of world "class" players like Eto'o, Deco, Ronaldinho and Ibrahimowicz in favor of home grown Barca-system oriented players, and a select few that would fit in. That explains the 13 trophies so far in 4 years. It's the perfect execution of a system that wins every time.... ra1969
27 Apr 2012 11:27:08
Can anyone give an honest opinion of how FSG have done since they took over! The problems they inherited are well documented so understandable that there was a lot of cleaning up to do, ie poor squad, wage bill etc etc and it wasn't going to be done overnight. But on the surface things are looking good an amazing shirt deal, the setting up of acadamies around the world more in to sponsorship and I'm sure there's lots more being done. I do feel that Comolli did bluff them in to thinking he was a lot better at his job than he actually was but that's FSG fault. They were at fault for his appointment 100% but they weren't long in taken action to be fair. They understand business not football players so no blame can be associated with them over players performance or ability. That blame lies somewhere else which is well talked about. I really don't believe those players are as bad as there being made out to be on a side note, the last 20 minute against west brom i think, we had henderson, shelvey, suarez carroll spearing and enrique on the pitch together. That's a seriously young team in the making, not including kelly, flanagan, coates and lucas. Still think adam and downing are just having a bad season, more so downing than adam but we'll see. Bit more luck in front of goal (I know that old reliable line) you could another 10 to 12 points to our position which is challenging for the champions league spot. The league doesn't lie so we are where we are. So yes a mixed season but if I find out of other people what they think og FSG and does anyone have any idea of what there planning to grow the club in the future apart from the stadium
Owen
27 Apr 2012 11:24:53
Extract from the ''EXAMINER''
''Fox said it's the first time cameras are being permitted in Liverpool's locker room at Anfield, its home since 1892. Scott Boggins, formerly of HBO's "24/7," is executive producer.''
So the grubby ''SUN'' (News Int.) and the rest of those sleazy sw1ne get to soil what should be hallowed ground to anyone remotely connected to LFC......
Well I hope you lot can still sleep at nights ! :(
Jawannatoffee
This is an American TV channel which has nothing to do with the Sun. I doubt they even know what "the Sun" is. {Ed002's Note - Fox Broadcasting and The Sun have the same owners and are part of the same media group.}
The people who run and make decisions at Fox Soccer are Americans who were probably about 10 years old during Hillsborough. That's what I am mean by "nothing to do with"
And the people who generally watch Fox Soccer are Americans who were also about 5 years old, and know little or nothing about "the Sun".
That's what i mean by "nothing to do with". Ownership is a different matter. But no need to immediately start tainting everyone at Fox Soccer with "Murdoch" or "Sun". It's knee-jerk and a little OTT.
{Ed002's Note - I suspect that the English fans feel rather strongly about anything Murdoch related.}
F... Murdoch and F... The S** thats my opinion
Carb
I agree with Carb!
K. Bennett
27 Apr 2012 11:20:19
Just a idea Eds. You know when you post, you have the option to leave your e-mail address and name? Could you have a signature section so everyone must sign their posts? I've seen some really good, really bad and really funny posts of late but some if not most haven't signed.
Sam Adzii JFT96 {Ed002's Note - We would prefer folks to sign their posts.}
Can you tell me then Why if you put your name in Name option it doesnt get posted but only gets posted if u type in text block anyone else find this? or is it just me?
JoshS {Ed001's Note - because it is a converted email contact form, the name option is just a hangover and should have been removed as it is not used.}
Good idea, should add a signature box and not allow the post to be submitted unless it is filled in
Carb
Why? So you can start calling people names? {Ed022's Note - So you can direct respond to comments properly.}
27 Apr 2012 11:20:17
Liverpool have just ordered weekly deliveries of Spanish Chorizo sausage for the Melwood training ground canteen from pre-season onwards on a 1 year rolling contract - Also rumored that Saville row will be making the managers suits on the same basis. Could this be a clue wrt to our next manager?
NOT IN THE KNOW.
Grassy Asp.
I think you might be on to something there, lad
Steve Bruce ?
27 Apr 2012 11:08:02
I know we wanted a fox in the box but didnt think it would be Fox tv! Mr T
27 Apr 2012 11:05:44
Can someone please tell me why our scouts watch most of the best and potential players around, make no move for them but then 1 - 2 years later when they have doubled in price want to sign them? Who decides if we are to bid for them or not? whoever it is needs to be sacked!
27 Apr 2012 10:51:34
What some on hear don't get is that when FSG bought the club they inherited a squad full of overpaid underperforming players. Too many were earning over 70k a week with some unproved youngsters on 30-40k a week too. As we know FSG partly addressed this issue last summer and moved on some of these players, others were loaned to reduce the wages burden. This summer. Aurelio's contract is up, Cole and Aquilani will be sold or let go with a pay off if need be and Kuyt and Maxi are likely to be on their way too as may be Johnson (who is a top end earner). Importantly none of Kenny's signings are earning salaries in the top tier of salaries paid by the club. Yes we spent too much on some of their transfer fees, however most of these fees were funded from player sales. The really important thing to FSG business model is that the wages of any new signing are not in the top tier of wages paid by the club. To get to the top tier a player will need to earn that reward. This is why the general (not absolute) policy is to sign players 25 or under of great quality who have yet to hit their peak. If they are successful we will reward them. Suarez being the perfect example. Reality Red
27 Apr 2012 10:51:05
Hi Ed i just read that Guardiola quit barca. What are the chances of him comming to lfc or chelsea. Do u expect he will straight way go to coaching role after quitting barca. Aner fans.d any progress in replacement of commoli. Thanx and i also want to know the view of oth {Ed002's Note - I suspect Guardiola will want to take some time off. When a new Director of Football has been recruited, I am sure we will hear but there is nothing right now.}
27 Apr 2012 10:33:16
Al this talk about Guardiola is absolute rubbish. Last season people were going on about AVB and look how he ended up. Guardiola has no experience of the premiership and would be a huge gamble much like AVB was. Ironically his career mirrors KK's in many ways. If he leaves Barca its because he is burnt out by the pressure and expectation. Just because KK succeeded with us first time round was no guarantee that he would succeed at other clubs (he did it at Blackburn with big bucks behind him but he did not succeed at the Barcodes or at Celtic). The same will be for Guardiola. When we look back at our season we can see that we have pummelled teams in terms of possession and played very good pass and move football. Our overwhelming failure has been to score enough goals. All in all this together with two cup finals represents progress and if KK can fine tune the squad in the summer with FGS's financial help we could be real challengers next summer. Those who know Henry and his team know that they are winners who have pumped big big buck into the Red Socks. We now have in place great sponsorship deals with Standard Chartered and Warrior and the promotion of LFC in the states is beginning to get under way. Despite some of the Eds' doubts, I believe KK will be bankrolled for 2-3 £20m players this summer. A quality young striker and a couple of wingers (Susaeta yes please) would be perfect. Reality Red
The difference between AVB and Pep is, Pep has beaten the best teams in the world, on a consistent basis and has won everything in world football Ross
There may be reasons to hire Guardiola even if success is not guaranteed. The owners are trying to raise the profile of the club. Guardiola is perfect for that. He is young, good with the media, speaks English, and essentially projects an attractive image.
27 Apr 2012 10:06:35
Roberto Martinez. Give the guy a chance at a top club.
Yeah, but not ours!
AG
27 Apr 2012 10:00:01
EFC fan in peace
Why on gods green earth have liverpool let fox, behind the scenes, fox are owned by rupert murdoch who owns the sun....
goes to show what the yanks know.
treat supporters with contempt.
Steblue69
Hey not sure why am getting disagree,s
But i do think it is a disgrace, for your great club to be linked with anything out that rag.
i have even contacted my own site regarding our section on what the papers say because it had the scum on it,
least some of us still have morals.
ps hope you f@@k chelski after what they did.
Steblu69
The only thing worth doing with any of Murdoch's property is havin a gd wipe after sittin on the throne
Carb
27 Apr 2012 09:37:14
hi, im going to my 1st ever game at Anfield on Tuesday night and just want to know if anyone knows what my view will be like? im sitting in the Anfield Road end row 30 block 125. thanks
Anfield road has restricted views but you should see the action ok..The history surrounds you perfection RED RUSS
That's where I have my season tickets. The pillars are annoying, the stand has a reasonably good atmosphere. We are close to the away fans and usually enjoy abit of banter. You will have a great time regardless. P.s ifyou like chips and curry sauce there is a fantastic chinese outside the ground.
Sam Adzii JFT 96
There is a seating plan on the official website, tickets page which shows your viewpoint from each section.
27 Apr 2012 09:29:37
Just read the article on LFC site that they are to allow Fox (murdoch's) News cameras to produce a documentary inside the club. Didi anyone else's teeth grind?!
I know what you mean, and personally I have a split opinion. However, on the balance of things, I would say it is a good idea. The problem is that in order to 'spread the word' about the greatness of LFC, you are going to have to cosy up to someone in the media. My advice is to think of it as us using him (Murdoch) and not vica versa. Although it saddens me - alot! - we are in the age of commercialism in football. In order to try to compete with other top clubs, we will have to become more 'media savvy'. Nick.
It will be great viewing for fans, but I really really really wish it wasn't murdoch they signed up with.
There are other companies who can do fly on the wall docs, but I guess they are going for what will give major exposure in the US.
Hope Dirk gets a better haircut - that frizzy look is so 80s.
I've read a few posts regarding this documentary mate from a few LFC websites. I don't like the idea of it either but if people did object to anything Murdoch is associated with. Then they should cancel their Sky subscription.
Remember it was not so long ago that the New York Times company (Murdochs paper) owned 17% of us. And no-one on any site had a problem with this? From what I read on all LFC sites anyway as I didn't read anything about it, at all.
Tony Barrett left the Echo to go to the times (Murdoch paper) but still appears on LFC tv and is part of our social media network. Tommo sits every Saturday oin a Sky studio and there are loads of other examples of LFC fans/ex-players/ working one time or another for Sky. Robbie Fowler and Jamie have sat in their studios too and commented on games.
Did any of this make your teeth cringe? Im not nor ever will stick up for Murdoch and News.Corp. Because I hope Murdoch and Mackenzie die slow painful deaths. Im just pointing out other examples in which people could be unhappy with the club/players/journos/ex-players etc, etc...
We should treat the Daily Fail imo, like we do with the S*n. That's were Kelvin Mackenzie works now. But we don't, some people still read the paper. And more annoyingly they copy and paste from it and put it up here.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - The New York Times is nothing to do with Murdoch Blair. Perhaps you are thinking of the New York Post - although that is nothing to do with Liverpool. Have you blacklisted Masterchef as well?}
Thanks Ed, I was and always have wondered why no-one complained about the NYT group owning a part of us? I didn't get mixed up mate, I thought that Murdoch owned the NYT.
You learn something in here everyday mate, cheers lol
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Murdoch owns Fox in the US, but he has little do with the running of the channel. Most of the people working in US know nothing about the Sun or Mackenzie. You would just get a blank stare.
Don't taint everyone who works at Fox or Sky.
You have been warned!
27 Apr 2012 09:24:57
gerrard back in training this week,in contention for tommorows game,
yet he is in dublin tonight on the late late show...(talk show)
really is nothing left on the rest of the league games
if kk is allowing this
red jay
Aww gr8 ill watch it for once..
Suppose its the only reason i would watch the show. Tubbs the presenter is a Red fan his only saving grace. Noel
He is on the late late show tonight, but it was filmed yesterday
27 Apr 2012 09:05:19
This may of been covered before but i have to have my say. First why is there no handshake for Terry and Ferdinand? The legal process is utter shed, the FA just dont want to make Terry look any worse than he does now when it is rejected. Why did they make Luis do it then? Why has Toure not been done for gesturing at the wolves fans when Luis was hit with a 1 game ban! The contradicctory nature and hypocrisy of the FA make me sick. Wait untill there is trouble at the cup final, giving the Chelski fans the extra 2 hours to get mullered and then will they put the sole blame on us! Am i a paranoid android here? probably, but the FA need to take a look at themselves.
FowlerisGod
Agreed. Very disappointed by the FA's stand - it's really double standards and IMO a witch-hunt against Luis and LFC
Singred {Ed002's Note - Don't be ridiculous, it is nothing to do with Suarez or Liverpool.}
I'd be a bit wary of painting LFC as the major victim but there is no doubt that the FA are a bunch of doddering hypocrites. Like Kenny always says....if we get treated the same as everyone else then we have no cause for complaint
cozinoz
To us LFC fans it does stink but the reality is that it has been cancelled again because anton ferdinand has been asked whether he will shake hands and it's obvious that he won't. therefore, the F.A have cancelled so not to have a mockery made of it again.
It might be nothing to do with Liverpool ed 002! But it's double standards! Surely you can appreciate our frustration!
Aldos tash {Ed002's Note - Of course not. No one said that they would not shake Suarez' hand - it was a self-inflicted wound caused by the stupidity of Suarez.}
It does make you wonder if those who initially said Fergie played us in that situ were correct.And the F.A aided him in that
Ed 002, i knw you are not a very fond fan of liverpool but i must tell u that you must mind your language while speaking about a liverpool player. sorry for the rant. but felt disappointed in you. srikirshna {Ed002's Note - I can't believe that you don't understand that what Suarez did was particularly stupid and damaging to the club.}
True ed but i think Evra was nearly as much to blame as suarez and hes got off the hook but regardless of his quality I hope we sell Suarez Liverpool are not really a club who keep a 'balotelli' if u will
Joshs
Im sure i remember readin yesterday that Anton was taking legal advice on wheter to shake Terry's hand, IMO if i was in his shoes, i wouldnt and the whole world would understand, i understand respect and fairplay, but did Terry have that when he said what he said? No. So why should Anton? I personally feel sorry for Anton as the poor bloke has been recievin death threats and everythin, if i was in his shoes and recieving things like that, i sure wouldnt appreciate it, especially considerin he hasnt done anythin wrong, but its their choice and up to them, but i'd still respect Anton wheter he shook hands with Terry or not, Terry on the other hand has proven countless times that he only cares about himself.
Carb
27 Apr 2012 08:47:10
the wife has just said to me "dave you have bin a moody miserable b**tard for the past week ,what's up??" "sorry love just have a bit of pmt" a confused look spread across her face....pre match tension i explained..i dont no about any other red men out the, but i am climbing the walls roll on the 5th may ....dave d
27 Apr 2012 08:25:25
What is the point of a DOF? Arsenal doesn't have one,United doesn't. Do they work?
Shankly,Paisley and Kenny did ok without one.
Leave it to the likes of Spurs and the rent boys,that's what I say. Get Bielsa in and let him get on with it.
Can't argue with that.
Sam Adzii jft96
Really enjoyed watching his Bilbao team this season and Chile in the past... reading up on him his attention to detail reminds me of Rafa or Mourinho, and the idea of triple training sessions might mean we have greater energy in the final third of games, or at least get Adam fitter. I think he may be Barca bound personally though...
Richards
Charlie adam is one of the fittest players at the club. up until his injury no liverpool covered more miles than him through the course of the season. opta stats have proved this, leave the lad alone and support him. the work some players actually do isn't witnessed by the average fan
27 Apr 2012 08:15:31
My friend works at Royal Birkdale Golf Club in a reasonably high up position. As a result, he occasionally hears football related gossip due to the fact so many ex Reds play their golf there, including KK, Hansen and Lawro. He's not a fan himself but passes the odd snippet onto me. He told me that he has heard King Kenny will step aside this summer, as he has told friends he is finding dealing with the modern pros tougher than he expected. He will be given a roving ambassador role for life, and we will then hire either Txiki Begiristain or surprisingly Fabio Capello as DOF. They will then choose the manager to work with, and there are no names until the DOF is appointed. The 'moneyball' principles will continue with the DOF told to develop youth and aim for palyers under 25 at all times
My mate nicks the balls out of the streams at Royal Birkdale Golf Club. He was looking for some expensive Top-Flite XL 7000 Supers, when he was disturbed, and had to dash off behind some gorse bushes. Peering through the flowery, but thorny, foliage who did he see but Kenny and Jocky walking by. He heard Kenny's dolcid tones saying how much he was looking forward to next season. Then he asked Jocky where his ball went. Jocky said you haven't lost another one of those new Top-Flite XL 7000 Supers have you Ken ?
Aye. said Kenny. I hit a beauty back there and it went pin high, hit the pole, and shot off somewhere.
F's sake, said Jocky, just like the fitba' eh?
My mate bricked himself. He let out his best Lesser Blue Crested Warbler impression, rustled the bushes a bit, and gently rolled out one of his newly purloined golf balls.
Get in there ya beauty, shouted Kenny. They both putted out and left, walking into the sunset.
My mate had to make do with a few battered Dunlops, but he said it was worth it cos now he knows Kenny is staying next season.
Hey lads, don't shoot the messenger eh ?
The Real KB
LOL put a smile on my face im glad kennys staying maybe
gee man
Brilliant the real KB, best post in ages. cheered me up no end that.
RNred
Lol great post Real KB
A big thank you, to The Real KB for sharing this true story with us. Thank God Kenny is staying.
kidmillions
KB, that was jus pure comedy gold, lol, get this man a stage and sell me a ticket!
Carb
27 Apr 2012 07:53:33
hey eds do you think pep guardiola will take a break or manage a diffrent team thanks {Ed003's Note - I would say take a break}
27 Apr 2012 07:48:00
So LFC are scouting Muniain, Soldado, Susaeta, Ramirez. I would be happy with any of those.
Jarvis or Moses please
27 Apr 2012 06:52:49
Here is my assesment
GK: Reina
Out : Doni and Jones. (may b1 1/2 M)
In : hennesy from Wolves. (5M)
CB: Agger , Skretel , Coates , D.Wilson
Out : Carra *(retired)
In : None
RB : Kelly, Flanno
Out: Johnson *high wages (10+ M)
In : Boswinga (Free)
LB : Enrique , Robbo
Out: Aurelio
In : Figerua/ D.Ward (Wolves) (4M)
C.Mid : Gerrard, Aquallani, Lucas , Henderson , Shelvey, Spearing, Suso
Out : Adam (6M)
In : None
LW : Bellamy,
Out: Downing (12M) , maxi (2M)
In : J.H0illet (Free), Affaley (9M)
RW : J.Cole
Out: Kuyt (3M)
In : G. Ramirez (15M), Moses (8M)
Striker: Carrol, Suarez,
Out : None
In : De Jong (15M), Rodellega (Free), FarFan (Free)
Total IN : 35 M
Total Out: 44 M + Sign On fees to Free (11M) = 55M
Total Outlay 20M
Team
Reina/ Hennesy
Kelly/Boswinga
Agger/ Wilson
Skretle/ Coates
Enrique/Ward/Figerua
G.Ramirez / Cole / Moses
Gerrard/ Henderson
Shelvey/ Aqualani
Luca/ Spearing
Bellamy / Hoillet/ Affelay
Carrol/ De Jong / Rodellaga
FarFan / Suarez
--Indian Redz
That team would get us nowhere! Thank god your not our manager!
Aldos tash
Boswinga?
It was the hennesy signing that puzzled me
Were is sterling /////
Has Roy taken over again?
27 Apr 2012 06:39:46
well next year is a liverpool year. i am sure we gonna finish top 4, i am just so excited that next year we gonna end all our woodworks and plenty of goals will be coming. we will also be making an impact in europa league and we gonna beat top uefa teams. lets hope this time our signing doesnt screw us up. next year man to be watched : henderson and downing.
redh0t
Why so many disagrees? Next season Henderson and Downing would have had a full season to settle and other than that, the man was jus pointin out that he thinks we are guna have a season to remember by returnin to CL and goin far in Europa League, and all those disagrees? I can see many fans are expectin a great season next year then
Carb
27 Apr 2012 05:44:33
Is there any chance pep guardiola wil manage LFC, even thou we dnt hav chmp leag futbal nxt season ?
Fifa 12 is the best bet
27 Apr 2012 05:16:32
The criteria for a new manager (should we ever need one) seems far too simplistic to me. Why would we consider someone like Guardiola when he has limited experience of Premier League football? Look at what happened with AVB. Surely, we need a manager who:
- understands English (and Welsh) football
- is experienced in Europe
- has the respect of the players
- can work without multi-million budget
- is a motivator and man-manager
- has had previous success as a player
- has managed more than one successful team
- gets the team playing exciting football
- who LOVES Liverpool Football Club
I don't see Guardiola, AVB, Maureen, or even Rafa fulfilling all the above.
Have faith in Kenny Dalglish. No-one suggests his transfers were perfect last year and he dug his own hole by not getting a striker in January (if there was one available) but there is simply no-one better to be holding the reins at the present time without taking a huge multi-million gamble on someone like Guardiola or AVB.
cozinoz
I can think of two managers who fulfill that criteria...
Kenny Dalglish and Rafa Benitez
Rafa not a previously successful player and certainly not a man-manager
Why do you need experience of the Premier League?
Did Fergie have it? Did Wenger? Did Mourhinho?
Sorry. I don't get this argument.
27 Apr 2012 03:11:53
Its a bit worrying, that two players (Cole and Aquilani) who obviously do not want to play for LFC are rumoured to be returning.
There is clearly no substance in the story
27 Apr 2012 02:56:03
ed could you put your opinion on this? (the first paragraph)
although i do not see pep in a managers posistion at LFC, but if he does go to the EPL id suspect it would be Liverpool. dont think hed want to take an "alright" squad like arsenal. who are in the CL, have basically no funds due to their board. i doubt hed go to chelsea, if RDM is NOT appointed manager. itd be suicide to take over that team. more now with the ageing players ageing even more! although chelsea do have a good squad i doubt he go there personnally. but then there is us, liverpool. someone he has commented on quite highly in the past (not saying he likes us better) but we are in a bad posistion. and any manager that gets us the next PL title will be an absoulute legend at LFC forever. the man who got us out of this rut.
personnally i dont fully care who our manager is. aslong as he knows how to use youth. Mourinho does not know how to do that. and thats why i admire barca over madrid anyday. but look at chelsea, and inter, they arent in the best situations.
this all being said i dont want kenny to leave and while he is here im going to support him. he isnt an idiot. he knows how a team works. especially ours. those who say he is tactically inept. remember this is the best football we have played in YEARS. we do need a few more players to complete this circuit. but it takes time. and we do have europa to atleast blood some youngsters into europe. like the hendos and shelveys. things are coming along. no matter how you look at it there is improvement. no matter how little.
sorry for the rant
JLFC {Ed001's Note - I just don't see any way of knowing which team he would want to manage. Who is to say City wouldn't snap him up?}
27 Apr 2012 02:14:51
Let's be frank -
Downing - incredibly overated - a winger that can't cross, score or beat a man. Bought as the finished article, has looked the furthest from finished.
Enrique - solid season - but isn't the type of full back to swing crosses in - EVER - sees a lot of the ball in an area where crosses could hit big andy - chooses the short square ball everytime
Hendo - played outta position the whole year
Spearing - a poor man's scott parker - wouldn't get into any of the mid-table midfields
Adam - over hyped - I have seen no evidence of "10 million pound set pieces" (SAF) + suicide back passes to reina!?
Carroll - isn't going to glide past a man or speed past a defence. If he isn't being supplied - he will be useless. I don't blame him - u have to put it in the right aerial area to get him scoring - all round game vastly improved since feb
Suarez - irreplaceable - terrorises everyone! Something is seriously wrong if the rumours of selling him are true
We are creating chances but at the same time our league position isn't a false position. It worries me that kk came out and said he was responsible for transfers in this past summer. Why sack dc, it's plain to see the money spent was silly for the business done but more so the players bought were the wrong choices.
The direction needs to be changed - at the moment we have the 6 or strongest squad in the league - without this change of direction how can the club expect champions league, let alone the title?
MSA - YNWA
Also shouldnt it be kenny telling enrique to cross in those Positions? That shows you poor tactics, anyway i think kenny's time is up. RedTurk
I think u need to show a bit more respect to spearing n downing. Spearing is a handy squad player who always gives his 100%. Downing is terribly lacking in confidence at the moment. The rest i think is spot on.
Indian Buzzer
In your opinion most of our signings are sh1te,how do we manage to create so many chances every game with these players
No sh1t Redturk!! When did you come up with that thought? Never heard you say that before!
The Irish Rover
Evidence of 10 million pound set pieces? That is what bloody Fergie said, to label the player when he moved somewhere else. Should never use terms from that man towards a Liverpool player, forget that label.
But sure we know he can whip them in, but when it will happen is the question, hopefully soon.
Indian Buzzer demanding respect for the players?
Both Kenny and DC would have agreed on last summers transfers, there would have been 1st,2nd choices etc.
owning up just removes any pressure for future failings. DOF determines football style, and tries to match with signings available, hence premier proven players being the main of the summers buys. Hindsight is easy to have as we can now look back. Same people who were screaming for Downing, Adam last year are now relegating them from the club. Lets just have faith in whoever pulls the shirt on and get behind them 100%.
This summer changes will happen.
YNWA
PIDDY
I more or less agree with the post few points on the replies 1,If kenny has to tell the fullback to cross the ball we are fooked these guys are prfessionals on £50,000 a week they should be able to figure this one out 2,Its no good saying spearing gives 100% when he is second rate compare our midfield when it was mascerano, alsonso,Gerard and any one other you care to mention say Riera this had 3 world class players in the middle now with Gerard injured for most of the season and quite honestly not at his best for most of the games(please dont have a pop coz I critised Gerard I love the guy but what with injuries he hasnt been his best this term and he shouldnt have to carry the team all the time) he has played we are exactly where we should be mid table.As far as Suarez goes NO ONE is irriplacable we managed without him for 10 games this season if he goes he goes
27 Apr 2012 01:49:36
i understand that we have some very underperforming players in our squad right now, but its disgusting to see all of our "fans" with the sack kenny, sell carroll, hendo, adam, downing and everyother new signing. yes i am dissapointed in our league form, but a true fan keeps the faith and gets behind our club rather than cry and complain how were so far away from challenging. give our boys a change to get settled and enjoy a full preseason and see how we start clicking and the goals start flowing. sry for the rant but keep the faith!
27 Apr 2012 01:49:33
people, i know yoy will shoot me for this, but i think we should let aquaman have a chance at liverpool. and see how he gets on
It's not a case of giving him a chance. He doesn't want to play for Liverpool anat all, ever.
27 Apr 2012 00:58:45
considering our remaining games are pointless from league view. Why isn't Raheem Sterling and Suso starting games.
Time to Blood some kids.
Agree fully, give our younger players, suso, sterling, shelvy, and coates a chance to see where theyre at,
Suso has been away with his natioanl side (U19) scored a goal for them in there 4 0 win actually. sterling on the other hand is in university and does have exams and schooling. however when sterling does travel he should atleast get a spot on the bench SOMETIMES. not all
Sterling goes to uni at age of 17?
I went to uni aged 17... mind you, I wasn't porking every chick that looked my way at the time, so I guess Sterling and I differ in many ways!
Rugby Parker
27 Apr 2012 00:49:29
Does anyone else think that, if guardiola becomes available, that fsg should pull out all the stops to get him. It may well be unlikely that we get him, but it will be a huge statement of intent. Managers like that don't become available every day. It will show us if they are as ambitious as they say they are.
If we can't get someone of that calibre I don't see the point of dalglish stepping aside. Not many would do much better and I'm sure he's identified what we need to improve, results wise. Performances are there, I don't think we're far away from much better things.
I don't see the point of changing for someone mediocre who we'll be stuck with for 4 or 5 years pushing for 4th place. We should be striving for more than that. Dalglish can move us forward with another season or 2, and he wouldn't think twice about stepping aside if he thought someone was available who could have us challenging the top 2. But you never know where he could take us in that time.
Dalglish is a winner, he wouldn't see top 4 as success. He will want more. If he goes, we may be in danger of signing a manager who targets top 4 and that's it. Not good enough for me. I include Benitez in that. yes he got us to second, but didn't someone once say that first is first, second is nothing.
So in conclusion, sign someone who'll have us challenging or stick with dalglish until we can do so, that's if he doesn't do it himself. We'll never know unless we give him a decent crack at it, and that's got to be more than he's had so far.
Aintree red
At last a bit of (not so commmon ) sense
I would like him at our club because of the brand of football he promotes. FSG have already made a 'statement of intent' by stumping up £35m for AC, £16m for Downing and £16m for Henderson.
That may be so, but you can't stand still in football, you've got to keep at it, show you mean business and make others sit up and take note. Carroll and the rest were just stage 1. Either go for guardiola or let kenny work on stage 2 (the focal point, I would assume, would be get someone to put all these chances away)
He could work with KK for a year to get to know the EPL and then take over the following year? Either that or get him on a retainer for the future? Either way, he could gen up on his knowledge of EPL by watching games and being involved to some degree.
Iggypop
27 Apr 2012 00:42:15
No rumour, just stating that I think the Gaston Ramirez rumour is built on solid foundation and I truly think this will be our first move. For me this means that Adam will be expendable, as we will have Lucas, Henderson, Gerrard already in central midfield. I also think we will move for a pacy right winger, and I am hoping we also land an attacking Bundesliga player, of which Podolski or Muller would top my list of possiblities.
Or as macca says. susaetta, one of bilbaos best players if you ask me. but i fugred since we are looking at llorente (past windows) and we are recently looking at munain, then i would not have guessed looking at him. but if its true id take him and T.Silva (academy) for RW any day! JLFC
In (5 players): Vorm, Isla, Sissoko/Witzel, Ramirez/Muniain, Soldado/De Jong.
Out (too many to count): Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Spearing, Maxi, Jones, Doni, Aquilani, Cole, Kuyt, Pacheco, Wilson, Darby, Amoo, Ecclestone, Bellamy and yes Gerrard.
Time for change. These players had their chances.
1st X1
Vorm
Isla Skrtel Agger Enrique
Henderson Lucas
Ramirez Suso Suarez
Soldado
2nd X1
Gulacsi
Flanagan Kelly Coates Robinson
Shelvey Sissoko
Silva Adorjan Downing
Carroll
Thoughts?
27 Apr 2012 00:38:10
A word about Giordiola: he did not invent the Barca style of play, nor did he build their prominent youth system. Was in place when he arrived. Doesn't mean he isn't a good manager, just wanted to point out that he didn't build a champion out of nothing. That being said, he did build possibly the best team of all time from strong foundations.
I don't think he would come to LFC anyway, but if he did, he would have to change the entire team to play the style of Barcelona. Arsenal maybe, with fast players who can pass the ball. LFC have no speed and really nobody who can control the ball and make crisp passes.
If he came, he would build the team using the youngsters, who are being taught by former Barca youth coaches, not the current first eleven.
Believe it or not, there is a plan.
What are you on about? he changed there whole philosophy everything they've achieved recently is down to his philosophy.
Tom. {Ed001's Note - no it's not, Cruyff changed the philosophy.}
Radomir Antic shouldnt b forgot when looking at the basis of barca's succes under rijkard & pep, They were in a relgation fight when he took over & he moved xavi who was playing as a defensive midfielder to the position he now plays further forward.
He also brought iniesta & valdes into first team & 8 think they ended up that season finishing 4th or 5th. He only was manager for 6 months as a laporte became president & wanted Rijkard as manager but he lay a foundation for there current success & deserves some credit in where Barca are now.
Agree with Ed001. Cruyff designed Barcelona's system from top to bottom based on his 'total football' philosophy. Guardiola is actually a product of and a disciple of that.
27 Apr 2012 00:34:09
I am a Boston Red Sox fan, and know alot about what FSG are about. They have pumped hundreds of millions into the Sox squad and every year go after the top players, at high cost. They are really promoting LFC in the US and I really can't see them accepting the current squad LFC have. I would expect a significant investment this summer, if their management of the Red Sox is any indication. That doesn't mean a new squad, but I would fully expect two to three new players in the 20 million range. Just hope this time they go after the right players.
GoSoxGo
FSG financially can not dig into their own pockets. Liverpool fc as a business will have fund any transfers that come into the club by selling player/freeing up wages/using 38m transfer fund.
No inwards investment is likely from FSG. American fans should think of liverpool as a £200m property deal/capital tied up in an under-valued asset.
I agree.
Most LFC fans don't really know what Henry is like. Most probably think he is just another yank trying to make some money. Wrong. I used to work in hedge funds and I have known of him for a long time. He is in it to win.
There are BIG changes coming. Standard Charter, Warrior, etc - just the beginning.
^ Can you divulge more? What other plans do you see NESV making to take Liverpool forward?
27 Apr 2012 00:34:05
1- general a reactive type of manager vs attacking manager
2-Dalglish approached: 4-4-2, the formation. Dalglish traditional formation
3- Damien Comolli/Liverpool fluid 4-1-2-3 formation with inverted wingers on the flanks.
The Fluid 4-1-2-3
Liverpool like to start aggressively, with great intensity on the ball and good pressing off it to ensure that they target specific weak zones of opposition. Looking to win balls and second balls. Both Fullbacks like to push forward reasonably in order to stretch the play. They don't over-commit though, receiving most of their passes around the half way line and not venturing too deep into enemy territory. Liverpool like to start the games with a quick tempo and pace.
Where talking about the compact triangle in the middle of midfield with spearing, henderson and Gerrard and a creative player such as Luis Suarez who makes the formation a diamond. This is a formation that Jose Mourinho/AVB favours and we have seen this formation before at chelsea and at Inter with jose. But why does it seem to work for mourinho and Not for AVB/Dalglish.
One of the reasons could be how mourinho's formation changes throughout the game. Starting with this formation in order to get the early goal and then reverting back to a 4-5-1 defensive counter. Also the workrate and defensive work put in by the make shift winger/strikers/fullbacks. Mourinhos wingers work a lot harder to get back for the team and defend.
Could this be a battle of Damien Comolli Fluid 4-1-2-3 vs Dalglish traditional 4-4-2, with Dalglish ultimately undermining the Fluid 4-1-2-3 to win a power struggle at Liverpool. Often in this Fluid 4-1-2-3 formation/matches we have played fanatic football, but Daliglish has been slow to change formation to a more defensive counter and been slow to change the attacking intensity to the fans surprise.
Then again Dalglish traditional 4-4-2 formation has been used more in the cup competitions. In my opinion the formation was totally wrong for Everton game. Own Formation and Tactical mistakes gifted liverpool the win and against better teams such as Chelsea in the final. Dalglish formation will be found wanting.
27 Apr 2012 00:26:57
Kenny needs to be manager. Our focus was the cups, as was ferguson in the early years of his( took him seven years to win anything). He won us 1(maybe 2) cups in his first year, he's the last manager of Liverpool to deliver a league title. He has got us playing some amazing football. Really good. Sold some deadwood. Bought some stars and bought of bad ones and ones for the furture. He has brought stability to the club. All we need is a few signings here and there and we got ourselves a title contending squad and a manager who will not leave us no matter how much money he is offered.
AnfieldUSA
The problem is it was a totally different era, and Ferguson was in his forties, and Kenny is in his sixties.
Kennny managed Liverpool before. Did outstanding. And honestly, you missed my entire point in that paragraph
AnfieldUSA
I got your point. The things Kenny did back then is what is needed now. I get it.
The problem is the physical energy that is needed to do all this at a very large club is unbelievably stressful, a 24/7 job. And you have to do it a now in a completely changed media environment, in which you are punished for things like the "Suarez incident".
Why do you think Guardiola has just quit at the age of 41?
Fergie finished 2nd in the league in his first full season won his first trophy after 3 and half years . you say it took him seven years to win a trophy he won five tophies after seven years you plum check your facts
Oh 3 years my bad, dont get over excited when you spot a error. Makes it seem like you know bits of info here and there but apart of that, you know nothing. You insipid donkey.
AnfieldUSA
27 Apr 2012 00:10:43
hi all. il make this as short as i can for you all. thankyou very much indeed for all of your support we have had a wee bad season i can say we are aiming for at least 5-6 players to come in and all i can say is il give it my best for next season also im not stepping down i love this club with my heart and soul .
Wrong page, Fergie
Great reply !
27 Apr 2012 00:22:19
Hey eds and reds,
What happened to that world player skills thing. Where the best players go head to head in skills challenges. Not herd nothing about it for ages.
Gaz b
27 Apr 2012 00:19:24
Hi ed's just a quick one, that portugese lad we signed from sporting, has he joined us yet or is he joining in the summer? haven't heard much of him since his move
Thanks
He's injured! won't play till next season!
27 Apr 2012 00:15:15
just to let you guys no we had 2 scouts at the game tonight who could we be watching ???
p.s i no this because i was there and seen it with my own eyes.
Markel Susaeta, apparently
Munain llorente (less likely) mikel san jose (even less likely!) martinez. a few others
26 Apr 2012 23:59:45
Walcott in the summer? Always thought that would be on if we got CL, seems even less likely now considering his recent run of form in Arsenal's starting XI
Really? Walcott's already been done to death, move on please
Squirrel
26 Apr 2012 23:40:38
Only a quick one, just heard on SSN pep is asking to leave Barca! SSN are saying they believe he want to manage in the premiership? Could you see that being us or am I way of the mark?
Ps Great site
You are WAY off the mark. How could he bring Barca style to our team? Perhaps if he sold everyone on the team except perhaps Suarez. There is no way he would go from the world's top team to an underachieving mid-table team on a wet cold country. Never happen.
He did say that he thinks the LFC youth set-up is the best in Europe (along with La Masia).
He might like a challenge.
And didn't Houllier attempt to sign him way back then?
Anyway, come on Pep. Come and have a go.... you're the chap to get LFC liked and successful again.
King Tubby
Actually, if he comes to any English club, it will most likely be Liverpool.
26 Apr 2012 23:36:15
Pretty much settled that KK is going nowhere - LFC have commissioned a fly-on-the-wall documentary series starting in May, and following the club through pre-seasons tours and preparation for next season.
Would they agree to this if they were going to be sacking KK - I doubt it!
Link here: http://t.co/Y2O7qw6w
Why would that have any relevance whether Kenny kept his job or not?
Who said anything about sacking Kenny? He will move into a different role. And documentary means nothing.