Liverpool Banter Archive December 27 2011

 

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27 Dec 2011 23:40:59

My team to play Newcastle:

__________Reina__________

Kelly_Skrtel_Agger_Enrique

Johnson_Gerrard_Downing

Bellamy__Suarez__Maxi

The Grand wizard...


Johnson and Downing centre Midfielders , thank god your not our manager.

Tom.


Whats the poin in doing that kennys not goin to come on here and go i think il go wth that fellas lineup today is he you melt!


The only way that XI works is

_____________Reina_____________

Johnson_Kelly_Skrtel_Agger_Enrique

Downing__Gerrard__Maxi__Bellamy

____________Suarez_____________


However - expect Carrol & Adam to start and not Gerrard.

Through the Storm


I've got a feeling Carrol will get a place in the starting line up again.

Andy


Is that Carrol himself.touting for start?


This is the proper line up

______________reina__________________johnson agger skrtel jose enrique

rodriguez shelvey adam downing

__________suarez bellamy_________


 

 

27 Dec 2011 23:40:16
Man this Carroll slagging is intense here.. I for 1 thought he was 1 of our better players out on the pitch yest.

Ok so did anybody notice something wrong with 1 of Carroll's eyes. Seemed a little puffy and Purple. Like he had been punched or something.
Did anybody else notice that?

S.G.L.


Yes , Sure . He definately had a black eye ... no doubt about it .

I reckon just a training ground collision .

Kenny Dalglish was sporting such cuts and bumps around his eye just a few weeks ago .

Qwerty


Maybe it was an eye for an eye


 

 

27 Dec 2011 23:23:58
Give up the moaning now guys the game has gone and we have dodged a bullet with Chelsea and Arsenal drawing as well. Lets look forward to seeing what we got for Newcastle...

I think with Stevie G back we will see what Carrol is really made out of and also we will see a slightly different Suarez. Before all the pressure was on Suarez to get something out of the game but now he knows he is not top dog and might pass it more instead of dribbling the ball around his dribble and that the pressure is slightly off him and the team as it has its G man back. :)

Speedy


 

 

27 Dec 2011 23:14:05
Any chance of Doumbia in January? Thanks, Jay


 

 

27 Dec 2011 22:22:26
hi ed, any interest in strootman fom psv? thanks {Ed002's Note - Sure - as we have explained.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 22:34:34
What is all this talk that Suarez can't finish? I often go to Liverpool games and before the games, when they practice, he is by far and away the most accurate. He just often shoots from awkward situations when he should probably pass, it is very rare to see him miss a sitter, unlike Carroll.


Sure is full of confidence unlike Andy.
TIZER RED


Soz ed my phone changed the word Suarez

Suarez is full of confidence, Andy isn't.


Well he missed a sitter from 12 yards with only the keeper to beat. It's called a penalty, against Sunderland! 2 points dropped. Now hang around & I'll pick a few more out for you.

The Irish Rover


 

 

27 Dec 2011 22:29:57
Just seen the sending off at Arsenal. Very similar to the Spearing sending off, it wasn't even a foul and yet a team are reduced to 10 men. I understand that this is because of an FA rule, if so then they are not fit to run football. It is not and never has been a non contact sport. Defenders and midfielders need to be able to tackle if they can't then you may as well just have 10 stirkers. If the FA are not careful football will end up like a form of basketball with the feet and will end up with the same number of spectators.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 22:04:49
Sorry all, that was not me before.. Gerrard will be on the bench for newcastle..

Cheers

Macca


 

 

27 Dec 2011 22:02:52
Gareth Bale looked good again tonight, one day that lad could end up at a big club!

Chris in Tamworth


He'll never go to liverpool then!


Prob go abroad so!


Barca or Real. Where else?

BooDaBooze


 

 

27 Dec 2011 22:00:42
Evening eds: I understand the owner/kenny's transfer policy buy young for the future and build a great squad right but my question is how many 18-24 our banging in goals left right and centre and are available?? why dont we just bite the bullet and by a 26 - 30 ie: defoe, honda, Rossi, Forlan, ect because we need goals we might have joint best defence in the league but theirs no point having the best defence and not being able to score oh one more question why is'nt bellamy starting games ??

ramy the red


I believe he has a similar knee problem to king. struggles to play twice a week


Bellamy has a chronic knee problem and so needs to be managed, so we get the best out of him!

Keith


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:54:40
Our best option for 3points is 4-3-3.
reina
johnson skertal agger enruqie
kuyt adam downing
gerrard suarez
carroll

if we play this system we can also cover the running backs when they get forward u can revert to 442 ect iv been waiting to see this formation all year its important we get hazard from lille also


We'd would get absolutely slaughtered on the break with that side.

Stu.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:53:27
Any chance of us getting loic remy in January?


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:50:13
Anyone get a spare for the Toon game on Friday ?
The Real KB


Might be me being thick but what u on about mate?
Rednose


Ticket?


Try RAWK...some fella is giving one away.

DaveyBootle


Think he is looking for a spare ticket for the newcastle game , thats the one on friday at anfield at 8pm .


He is talking about match tickets against Newcastle ... Lol

Qwerty


Sorry boys,been on the lash,time of year n all that, now that every one pointed it out feel like my 1st post,thick !
Rednose


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:47:27
Hi all

If Ozil is available and i know we need champions league football to gain the best players, but could he be influenced by ex Liverpool players like...Alonso, Didi and other players he is in contact with at Real who have been loved here



Just a thought

Sweetcorn


I doubt ozil would leave madrid to come to us, he would probably sign for the likes of city, united, milans, munich etc


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:38:57
Thank god for global warming, methane, CFC's and carbon dioxyde because this Ozone is a right pain in the a$$!

Samson Rasher


If my lovely late mum was alive today,she would be blaming it on the yanks landing on the moon,jimmubosun,


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:37:57
I am watching the norwich spurs game and the singing those carrow fans have been doing is something we are missing in anfield we should be ashamed.
ed001 what is spurs doing or who in their team have they got that is making them so unbeatable ? or is it their manager ? I think KK is better personally.
one more thing if you had choice of one player from the prem to get who would it be ? thanks hope you had a good christmas

hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - they are high on confidence with a good team and team spirit. The player I would take from the Prem would have to be Robin Van Persie.}


When bale is in full flow he's unstoppable, brilliant player and still developing. Something we lack at lfc, a winger with final product.
Rednose


Why dont we try martin kelly there?worked for bale,


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:37:35
Adel Taarabt 10M from QPR


Why????

Chris in Tamworth


Just for the sake of it I reckon .


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:34:54
Any chance we could sign Bale, Tiote and Van Persie in January or the summer? davey


You couldn't sign a single one of them EVER, let alone all 3


Bale detest's liverpool anyway so that won't happen


They will go to a bigger club mate!


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:33:11
Reina
Kelly, Skyrtel, Agger, Enrique,
Spearing
Johnson,, Shelvey, Bellamy/Sterling
Stevie
Suarez
Subs: Doni, Coates, Carroll, Flanno,Suso, Robinson

Stands: Hendo, Adam , Downing

Carpark: All the blinkered fans


Johnson at RW won't happen, as if fit, he will play RB due to his contract! Anyway, why break up such a good back four now?

Keith


Sterling is too lightwieght,watched the ressies game against the scums last week,everytime he tried to take a man on he got pushed away like he was made of ricepaper,


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:28:57
untied supporter here just reading your banter for laughs. funny stuff. just had a thought. how about signing ruud van nisterlrooy. could help carroll in his development and he knows how to score goals.

rddu


Untied? The intelligence of Manchester/Newcastle/West Ham fans never ceases to amaze me.

YNWA! (Adam)

P.S. Heres something funny, your pathetic enough to read our banter page!


Yea funny as funny as rooneys hair or anderson being able to score either lol


What about Suarez's face, that's funny. Think you'll find Anderson has scored more thn Carroll this year


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:25:55
What are peoples thoughts on Niko Kranjcar. I think he's a good player with fantastic technique but i hate signing rejects from our rivals.

GuvTOB


Lots of spurs fans would like to see more of him, personally would like him playing whenever lennon is injured. He was fantastic against you when we beat you 4-0


Does that not answer your question when you say reject?
ssg


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:20:21
all we need is soldado, montolivo and wijnaldum

that would cost
20m - striker
10-13m - winger
5-8m - DM


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:10:26
we have to admit now guys

spurs are a far greater team than us....


To be honest so are city, united, arsenal and chelsea... hense the reason we are 6th...jdog


They have somthing we don't,quality wing play,fact.
Rednose


So next season mate, when Harry is England boss, Modric is playing for Chelsea, Bale for Barca, Friedel & Parker have hung up their boots. Adebayor finds a club who pay him the wages he wants. VDV injured again... Not really a team (inc the gaffer) that are going to be around next year ... I'm gonna stick by LFC & keep my fingers crossed for a decent & sustainable future. You continue to worship the currents Spurs team if you wish.

dd


Love your post dd!
Red&Bred


Dd,while the rest of your post might be true i can't see bale moving abroad, have visions of of him in a scum shirt (shudder)! If he does move to manc land hope it's the sky blue half or shud it just be manc land seen as 90% of utd supporters dnt come from there!
Rednose


Yawn, there's plenty of United fans in Manchester, just have a massive following from all over the world


Honestly mate do you really believe thats gonna happen or is this your christmas wish list its not gonna happenl. So when Gerrard.Carragher and Bellamy retire from injuries, suarez gets fed up being called a rascist and leaves,Reina finally gets his move he has wanted for the past 3 years , slagging off Carroll for missing a sitter ( phew! that could have been us). Dont take your position in the game for granted nothing lasts forever guys its not 1990 anymore, things change.


There might be plenty of manc fans in manchester but most of them r blue fact ! If you've been shopping in da after Xmas sales u will like this post, Trafford centre is blue!!


Soz 4got to sign my post,never seen so many kids in city colours,come out the woodwork like chelsea fans when they got the cash (silva n co etc)hence r top of the league, still miles better than lookin at scums 4 a change not that u see many unless u r from anywhere but manchester,prawn sarnies anyone ha ha
Rednose


 

 

27 Dec 2011 21:30:28
Everyone going on about buying. what about the great players we have in the reserves. and what happened to that Spanish wonder kid, and the Mexican scoring machine we signed. the powers at be said they would probably be in the first team before the end of the season. so why not give them a go now eds? {Ed001's Note - because they are still kids.}


U would like to see coady given a chance up front,


 

 

27 Dec 2011 20:40:04
Qzone,

If you are that great a judge of a player, what are you doing here instead of being present in a dug out.....

Most of the times when things dont go as they wish, some people find ways of blaming someone for that....You are one of them......Whats wrong with Carroll?.........I dont get it....

Do the following :

1. Take a picture of Carroll now and take one of him one year back.....Compare the changes

You will find him much fitter and leaner than he used to be......

2. Compare "your so called" first touch NOW and one YEAR back........

You will realise how improved he is.....

3. In 1992 when Shearer chose Blackburn instead of Manchester United (due to Kenny being there), he was a Premier League Champion three years later in 1995.....His only one in his long and illustrious career..

Carroll's situation is no more different....

A lot of your other arguements are simply baseless....For example the Charlie Adams one......He is a great buy....What more do you want from him?.....The lad does almost everything.....He has played more than 95% of the matches.....

If you feel that most of us are wrong abt Adam, try asking Chelsea supporters about Fernando Torres...

I have read ur posts.......Nowhere do you come across clean with ur "observations" and "constructive criticisms".....Lots of whining but you dont offer any intellectual solutions for ur so called beliefs regarding the players....

As far as Ed whining goes, it seems you are new to the site.......Becoz the Ed's are fabolus and have very good knowledge of the game and its peripheral activies (eg transfer rumours).......

They have been good and Ed001 especially is very good at his work and has a fantastic sense of humour (which of course would be beyond YOU given the taste you have shown in the past 12 hours)........

Take a vacation
You are badly in need of one

LiverBird


Take your rose tinted glasses of mate all is not rosy in the garden we all love kenny but 35 mill for carroll ......that kills me ,,,,,truley kills me


Well said liverbird, we are moving in right direction.

B o H


What a load of nonsense. A year ago, Carroll was scoring goals.

Ash


Table doesnt lie......

We are just 3 points off the 4th place which looks like the place which we want....Its more of 3rd or 4th which we are targetting.......No one team has ever taken tht kind of leap which you are "frantically" insisting on......

What are your expectations from the season?

And yes......please sign your posts.....Tht should give some amt of credibility to what you write and post......

LiverBird


I have to say Carrol was better last season.. he looks like the most mal-coordinated donkey i have ever seen this season.. last year wasn't that bad.. he got some goals looked up for it.. total opposite of this season


You lost me with the Adam thing Liverbird, I believe he is a good addition to the squad. In fact, with the exception of Carroll, I believe every player brought in is an upgrade on what we had and are equipped to develop the style of football we're producing. Carrolls no different to Ngog. Lets swap notes re Carroll in 18 months lad.

Ozone


I believe Carroll will come good....The problems with him are in no way related to his skills, ability, temperament or talent...

His only issue is that he has been bought for 35 mil pounds from Newcastle.....

You say he has no pace but at his position take the best players who have ever played the game and been successful for a long period of time, you will be surprised to know that there are not many.......

Look at Torres who had so much pace....All he could give Liverpool was 2 seasons when he was at his absolute best.....

Get REAL...the pace with which the game is played today you need not have a
number 9 with explosive pace......you want the pace to come from the midfield......

If you love football, leave everything to time and Kenny will make Carroll sing......He has played at the highest level in the same position as Carroll for all his career.....He will not only turn out to be good, he will become a monster of a forward.......You forget tht he is just 22....Thats just frightening.....He is so young and has plenty of time on his side......

Be ahead of the curve.....

LiverBird


You are right that you don't need pace to play in Carroll's position. But you do need football intelligence, and an awareness of what is going on around you. Unfortunately, Carroll has shown no indication of this so far.


I can prove that too but you dont merit any further replies because you dont sign your posts

LiverBird


 

 

27 Dec 2011 20:39:23
I cant wait to see Stevie g, Luis ( before ban ) and Andy play in the same side. Should be very interesting. All the best.


KNEE JERK


KNEEJERK,

I agree with your observation...
Kenny would not have imagined that Stevie G would be out this long....

He will be a vital cog to that engine room if he stays injury free this season......Also, I am afraid that his replacement has already been thought of by Kenny and Comolli.....

I am not concerned with Carroll......He will eventually come good.....I am more amused by Kuyt and Maxi.......

Ed, Could you please throw some light on this......

Kuyt has been probably told that he needs to expect less game time or move (to get regular games).....Plus Maxi's contract should run out at the end of the season (Pls confirm abt both of them).....Cole and Aquilani are 99% going out.....

These places will need filling........2 at the least if not all.......

LiverBird {Ed001's Note - Maxi's contract has 18 months left I think, but you are correct on Kuyt, he is gradually being phased out.}


Yeah Stevie G... but Carrol are you having a laugh?


Its true RE Stevie, but injury free he still has a couple of seasons. All the best.

KNEE JERK


 

 

27 Dec 2011 20:26:13
My team to play Newcastle:

__________Reina__________

Johnson_Skrtel_Agger_Enrique

________Spearing_________
___Gerrard_____Adam_____

_Bellamy__Suarez__Maxi___


Replace adam with shelvey, Adam has been terrible the last couple of games.

Nnam


Gerrard will play off Suarez, we need goals, agree with Bellamy to play, but on the left, dowing on the right, barr bad crossing last time out he did well!


-------Reina---------
Kelly Skrtel Agger Enrique
Hendo Adam
Bellers Gerrard. Maxi
Suarez

I'd be happy to start with that. Though I wouldn't be certain if Gerrard would be fit enough to see out 90 mins.

The Irish Rover


Henderson and adam have been terrible in the last two games.


Stevie ain't goin to start for another few games


Yes totally agree mate.. thats out best team... why can't kk see it?


We need to play Spearing with Hendo in the midfield....

Unlike QPR, Wigan and Blackburn, Newcastle have in Cabaye a playmaker who can hurt when given space....Plus Ba has scored more than 10 goals this season and can damage when left free....

Adam is out of gas at the moment and should be rested for the game.....

Gerrard should be brought in later in the game....He needs more time to play his way into match fitness.....A 90 min full action may not be in our long term (season) interest...

Plus we should give Kelly a game sending out a gentle warning to Johnson who has not been good since the Chelsea matches....Most of our momentum built on the right hand side goes waste because of his sloppiness....

LiverBird


 

 

27 Dec 2011 20:25:55
in the games we drew and really shoulda won against Sunderland, Norwich, Swansea, Man U, Man C, Wigan, Blackburn and the loss against Stoke, if we had won those we would have been on 46 points! We are just so unlucky!!


Mate any team could say that ..The truth is Liverpool are not good enough at the moment and they need to start pulling there socks up and working hard.


If blackburn had of won all there games then they would be top of the league... jdog


We played arsenal right time, would we get 3 pts now, chelsea game was 50/50. remember reinas save, could have lost it. woulda, coulda, shoulda. sounds like man u fan talking about ec.
its there for talking, loohing aheah at all times.

B o H


 

 

27 Dec 2011 20:14:55
harry redknapp is the only one who has worked out why man utd have been at the top for so long . wingers and constant crosses hence bale /lennon its percentages . anyone remember john barnes . we only have one winger at the moment a top class right winger will improve us and provide balance at the moment were not balanced. also we have lost two world class midfielders gerrard and lucas adam and henderson are our second choice midfield . if luis gets suspended youll see a change of formation . kennys the man hes had hillsboro on his plate and also his wifes illness we couldnt have any one better. for gods sake give him a chance.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 20:14:20
Lad at game yesterday expressrd view LFC wont get decisions unless tow line over Suarez.There were some strange ones,have to admit


 

 

27 Dec 2011 20:10:00
I for one am a liverpool fc fan, not sure I can say the same for a lot of other posters here. The point is I support the team, and I think a lot of people just whinge and moan and single out players to have a pop at because of their form. Through thick and thin I will support lfc, and EVERY lfc player for as long as they wear the liver bird upon their chest. If you cant support the players, dont say you support the team. Get behind each and every one of them and maybe the confidence will return and glory wont be so far away.YNWA. Roblfc86.


Its not confidence players like henderson and carol need its a new club.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 19:59:48
With Arsenal and Chelsea both drawing games they should have won the Blackburn result is a missed opportunity rather than a calamity. Yes we should be beating Blackburn at Anfield like we should have beaten Swansea, Norwich and Man U but we are in a far better position than this time last season don't forget we are unbeaten at home, one of only two teams in the division to remain unbeaten at home, we have the best defensive record in the division, Gerrard is back for the second half of the season and we won't be losing any players to the African Cup of Nations. Reasons to be cheerful 1, 2, 3 4. The main problem is teams have worked out how to stop us scoring at Anfield and this, combined with the lack of a 20-25 goal a season striker has resulted in far too many dropped points. If KK can get a decent striker in January either on loan or by spending some real cash then the top four will be there for the taking.

You know it makes sense.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 19:25:42
{Ed001's Note - you lied about him running back to cover for Gerrard and made up some nonsense about him never having been forward. That was a blatant lie. So no, what you posted, in your endless whines, were not opinions, they were lies or maybe mistakes due to your lack of knowledge? If they were a mistake, I would have expected an apology when you realised they were a mistake after watching the game, probably for the first time judging by the complete tosh you have posted about it.}

-------------------------------------------------

No you barked on about him covering for Gerrard as if we should be thankful for the effort and I interpreted it as him hiding away from his designated role up front as he was having no change out of Samba.

You'll get no apology out of me, specifically given the unfounded 'you know nothing, your an idiot, are you that dense etc.etc.' insults supported by the fragile case for Carroll having a good game because he filled a hole left by Gerrard in the second half when Stevie lost his man.

Clearly your the one with the lack of knowledge about the game. Not in any of your responses have you been able to contradict the fact that Carroll doesn't have a turn of pace, he's poor in the air, he can't run with the ball, he has no positional sense, his first touch is dire and his passings off the mark. I'll remind you of your assertions 18 months from now.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - I am bored of your lies and make believe fairy tales about what was said and how you were such a great player. Your lack of any kind of knowledge of the game, your complete falsehoods and backtracking when caught out on those falsehoods is also pathetic. You can't even read simple English to understand what I have said. You are just a bitter whining, moaning, boo boy and your assessment of players is coloured by your own bias. You lack the ability to be fair, and change your story to suit whatever particular nonsense you want to spout in that particular post. You said Carroll didn't make any effort and tried to hide away from the ball constantly, I have pointed out, with examples, where you were wrong. Now you want to make up some different story. Why do you not just admit you were wrong about his effort and hiding, then you can discuss his ability or lack thereof in a fair and balanced manner. Rather than the biased and completely false manner in which you are trying to blame him for everything. I bet you must have been gutted he didn't score the own goal as well, that way you could have had something new to whinge about.}


YES ED001!


Oh this is why I love this site...ED001 you are brilliant. !!
Tel 1949


Omg are you till going on about how sh*t you think AC is.

Yes he's not worth 35 mill but if KENNY paid that, he paid that for a reason.


I know who I'd trust more out of you and KENNY
Now look up the word support, you muppit.

YNWA
TIZER RED


Ozone there are a number of top managers and players across the world who in the past 18 months has said how much potential Carroll has. So who is the one clueless about the game all these managers and players or you, an person who jumps on someones back without having much chance to prove themselves. Did you critisise Maxi and Lucas 12 months ago or did you give them a chance.


YAWN!

KNEE JERK


Go 'ed Ed 1. Have it!!!!!

DaveyBootle


The only reason Liverpool were quoted 35 milllion is because Spurs were prepared to pay 25-28 mil for Carroll.......

People either dont know or dont want to understand why we paid 35 mil for him........

It wasnt just a signing.....It was a STATEMENT OF INTENT......And nobody knew beforehand that Suarez would settle so well....It is very easy to speak after an event has occured......

Football players reject clubs (even Liverpool) but fans somehow are not prepared to understand that.....

We will never sign players like Higuain, Gotze, Hazard, Neymar and so on...the message is simple........They dont want to join LIVERPOOL....If fans still cant digest that......

LiverBird


Carroll was good. Very unlucky to be up against a keeper on form. He got in some good goalscoring positions at times, which is encouraging. He may have misplaced a couple of passes but he linked well at other times - you need to give the man some credit when he does things right - rather than just focussing on the bad parts.

If he keeps playing like that the goals will come.

BJH YNWA.


Besides Suarez has been keeping Andy Carroll out of the side with his scintillating form.......

Give Andy Carroll five straight starts and he will surely do well.....

He knows where is the net...and Kenny knows that.....

LiverBird


 

 

27 Dec 2011 19:01:03
Would all those posters who would like KD to be replaced now please reply to this post, along with your name. I want to keep a note of who you all are and remind you of your nonsense at the end of the season.

Come on, put your name where your mouth is!

FT


My name will never be scribbled down on that paper mate. I fully agree with what you say though.

DaveyBootle


Good one.
long live the king

B o H


. {Ed001's Note - this post has been deleted as the poster didn't have the guts to put a name to it as he was asked.}


Great post FT.

Stu.


No one brave enough yet??

And no I do not weant KD to go!

Iggypop


Me

JFT96


Just as a matter of interest JFT96 who would you have replace him and why?


I don't believe any LFC fan wants to see Kenny replaced. I believe most would like nothing other than to see us win the title with Kenny as manager. However, the owners have their targets, and if they are not met, I suspect there will be changes. The owners are not sentimental, unlike ourselves.


Glenn Roeder because he's top notch!

JFT96


He looks like John Henry....

Is that why you want him?

LiverBird


JFT96, I am not taking you seriously - for obvious reasons.

FT


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:52:55
What would you guys be happy with:

4th in the league - no cups
5th in the league - Coca Cola cup and FA Cup

Is the main priority getting into champions league in your eyes? Or is it winning cups? Would we settle for FA Cup and Coca Cola cup if we actually got it and call it a good season or would it be a failure?

Thanks, KickingBro


Trophies.
The Real KB


5th and both trophies.

RenegadeRed


Got to be cl i miss it, and i think its were players like Stevie g, Suarez, Reina and Agger deserve to show there talent. Also we will be able to easier to sign the " superstars" that many crave. All the best.

KNEE JERK
* Cue champs league tune*


That's a tough one. It would be great to win some trophies but champs league would attract more players of a high calibre like Higuiene and ozil. Sorry for the spelling stupid I phone. I wrote that name ten times and it felt changing it.


I think 4th will help us recruit the better players to the club.I would love 2 trips to Wembley though.I can't see why we can't get a trophy and a CL place.

Jiminy Cricket


4th. Anything but 4th this year will be considered a failure. What's the point in having pointless little trophies with pathetic prize money if you're not playing in Europe's premier competiton, where we'd get an extra £30m a year.

Martin {Ed001's Note - pointless? Winning trophies is what it is all about! Finishing 4th is not winning.}


Champions League please!

Attract 'better' players, then trophies next season.

FT


Settle for a few home wins on the trot


I thought that you got into europe if you won the cups? for example, Birmingham last season after winning europa.

to be honest, I'd settle with europa given how this season has unfolded. It's a patient growing progress. Too many silly dropped points.

With that in mind, I'd just go all out for the trophies and aim for somewhere between 4th and 7th, and I'd call that a season well done.

The FA cup in particular would be a mega confidence boost for the season following to build on, and then really go for the league with that momentum, and knuckle down on every game, making sure we don't loose stupid points.

I stand by that we can beat anybody on our day. We play as good football as anybody on our day. We can turn over Man city and grab the minor cup. I don't want another trophy-less season at the expense of a higher place. I want something physical to show for our investments and patience over the years.

Not consistently winning cups is the reason that we've lost our world class players in the past (Alonso, Mascherano, Torres), and if we continue the barren run, there's no reason not to suggest that we could lose our star players (Reina, Suarez, Carroll ect) who are hungry for trophies (or irrespective worth) and could win them with other teams.

Mr Controversy


Cl, need it money wise and to attract right players.

B o H


I get what you mean ed, but I'd rather get into the CL so that we could spend more in the transfer window and attract the players we need to move forward. It would also pretty much guarantee Suárez staying as well.

With trophies, of course you get the pride of winning it, but we'd still be stuck with the real quality players reluctance to join us and the possibility of Suárez being tempted away.

That is not to suggest that they are both exclusive to each other. I believe we can win the League Cup and I believe we can get 4th, and I wouldn't consider it too outlandish to believe we could get both.

Martin {Ed001's Note - if players want to leave a team that is winning trophies and making progress, then good riddance.}


Never cared too much about FA cup
or carling cup - not Liverpool trophies.
I want to seen us back in CL. European
cup is one of ours. And eventually back
challenging for the EPL. Bring the real
LFC trophies back home Kenny!.


I want us to win trophies.That is the be-all-and-end-all as far as I am concerned. Frankly, I could care less about "being in Europe". I realize this is probably not popular. I just find the whole "Champions League" thing to be over-inflated, over-hyped and boring. {Ed002's Note - However it is very important to the finances of the club who will continue to lose money without being in Europe.}


Mr Controversey, are you kidding me? Andy Carroll is hardly what I would call a star player. More like overpaid, overhyped championship standard player.

Steve


I think if we dont get 4th then we really need to win a trophy, and i think if we were offered two trophy's for 4th then i would be happy with that this season, but would really be desperate to get back in the CL next term


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:46:59
Ed forget negatives now,moving on,i see Suarez more as a playmaker.Would he get more room playing behind two(NEW !}Strikers?In so called"hole?"Just an idea,Mr.Whinge {Ed001's Note - I wouldn't mind seeing him, Gerrard and Downing behind a striker myself, I think it would be ideal for them. Bellamy when available would be ahead of Downing, or on the bench to change it if not quite fully fit.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:43:14
buy 1 player but buy a quality one is we need. Higuain, Saldado, Pdolsky . at least 1 of them will do help us the goal we miss every match.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:42:49
Got lucky Again ! with results so far today boys.Now come on -Do Newcastle!


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:41:54
People on here play computer games too much! Get real we are a million miles away from last year with the progress we have made. Enrique , Adam have settled well and Henderson will become top class. Anyone who has played football knows you don't just go and win every game
against the so called
lower teams..Keep believing ...It will happen for us! YNWA


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:40:27
Hi Ed

I have noticed that Giuseppe Rossi is still at Villarreal and, although he hasn't had a great season due to his bad injury, he been good over the past few seasons.

Cheers Benno {Ed001's Note - and your point is? He is out injured still!!!}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:40:03
{Ed001's Note - except that isn't what you were saying, are you really this dense that you still aren't getting it? I am not picking at your blatant lack of support for one of our players, but for the fact that you are making up lies in an attempt to prove your point. At least try and be fair in your assessment of him. He worked hard yesterday, he didn't hide at all, so please stop with the nonsense about him not trying and hiding yesterday.}

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Im getting racked off with this. What lies Ed? For you to interpret any post of mine as containing a lie it must have contained a statistic. The only statistic I have posted is in relation to samba winning in excess of 90% of the aerial 50-50's. If you watch the game again and tally them up (not the challenges where its a clear header for Carroll or vise versa in Sambas favour, the 50-50's that could go either way), Samba wins the majority interpretated statistically as 90% plus.

All other posts are in the main an opinion of Carroll in general and an evaluation of his performance yesterday.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - you lied about him running back to cover for Gerrard and made up some nonsense about him never having been forward. That was a blatant lie. So no, what you posted, in your endless whines, were not opinions, they were lies or maybe mistakes due to your lack of knowledge? If they were a mistake, I would have expected an apology when you realised they were a mistake after watching the game, probably for the first time judging by the complete tosh you have posted about it.}


Hour 12 of Ozone whinging, still has'nt anything on my mrs though. All the best.

KNEE JERK


This is knee jerks Mrs here, don't listen to him, no one can moan more than this guy who's been moaning all day.

Maybe he needs to get laid.

Knee jerks Mrs


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:39:54
John Barnes believes Liverpool should target Gonzalo Higuain in the January transfer window.


Me too

TIZER RED


I think hed rather sit on bench at Real than sign for you lot


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:37:53
Ed moving on from yesterday,Diggers been on radio saying ideal player for Reds be Higuain.You said you dont see it,neither do i.However if enough muller available to throw at it,do you still feel the same? {Ed001's Note - I don't feel the problem is money, it would be a lack of Champions League football. Chelsea have already been offered Higuain for 40m (not sure if it was Euros or Pounds), so long as they agreed not to move for Cavani. So we know the price, but would he want to join us?}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:26:01
Fans I would happily share a beer with and talk about Liverpool -

Bob The Red, Jonson, Blair Mayne, The Real KB, Macca, Ed001 (among others)

Even the turdz, at least he's got a sense of humour.

However, I'd definitely leave the pub if we were joined by -

RedTurd, Toolblack and Ozone.

I've played with moaning s***s like you guys, and the team's *always* better of without you.

Matt S - YNWA


Fine! I dont like beer anyway ;) always been more of a cider man myself haha. A very insulted:

YNWA! (Adam)

Ps. I may have to crash this pub gathering!


You can be Bob The Red's +1 Adam :-)

Matt S - YNWA


Nines a lager shandy, shaken not stirred

Tel 1949


I dont drink mate, il leave you to intoxicate your body. Waste of money when you consider there are people in africa with no water, here we are wasting fluids to intoxicate ourselves.RedTurk


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:21:27
Got tickets in the main stand,block ME,row 36,seat 219 for lfC vs Newcastle,just wanted to no if the view is good and how many rows does the many stand go up to.


ME is towards the Anfield Rd end mate their is a small post that could be in your way while looking towards the Kop

Micheal Mouse


ME starts by the edge of the Anfields Rd ends Area Mate Row 36 is near the back,so you should miss the post that side of the Main Stand.Their is restricted seats in that block.You want to check the Lfc website for restricted view seats.I think your too far back to be bothered by the post though

Nojay


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:15:56
Carrolls only goning to get better now with STEVIE G back! I for one thought Andy Carroll looked good yday, he was unlucky at the end with the gk pulling off a great save. You have got to remember he is only young. Im not one to put players down but he only signing thats looked below par this season in my eyes is downing but im pretty sure if he picks up the form he had at villa n boro he'll come good!

Red P


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:14:26
This time last season we were 6 points away from relegation, and playing the worst brand of football seen at Anfield from a home side since Everton left in 1892. This season 3 points off 4th and Champions League qualification, playing some good, attractive, attacking football and we just seem to be unlucky in front of goal.
We are still in both Cup competitions, So why am I seeing people calling for King Kenny's head? 12 months ago we could only dream of being in this position. It will take time to get it all right.
A couple of additions in Jan will see us through to the summer, where more rebuilding of the squad can take place (Hopefully with CL Qualification secured to bring in a higher quality of player).
Have a little faith

SW81


I totally agree with what you are saying but a point I would like to make is the fact that if we actually won the games where we drew like Sunderland, Norwich, Swansea, Man U, Man C, Wigan, Blackburn and the loss against Stoke then we would be talking about winning the league. I am not in no way saying that it is Kenny's fault but if he doesn't make transfers in January I fear that the 4th place is well and truly gone.

Thanks, KickingBro


KickingBro, you exactly right, we would be talking about winning the league if we had won them games. We all know we should have, we have been nothing but unlucky in front of goal, we create enough chances, have more than enough on target, and hit the woodwork a crazy amount of times, but keepers seem to have their games of the season against us. It is no-ones fault its just the way our season has gone so far.
It wont be like this all season.... It cant be... Can it?

SW81


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:12:30
Wow after the mass hysteria following the game yeterday I think it important to point out that we are currently 2 pts ahead of Chelsea and level with Arsenal over the xmas period! But I suppose the season is over? Stop with the knee jerk's after every game. Bob the Red on his first mobile after 42 years!!


Lol, I'm impressed you managed to get it out of the box Bob lad.
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - I just wonder which of his grandkids set it up for him.}


Sorry bob , not sure what table you are looking at , you are confirming my fear about liverpool supporters ! You are 2 points behind Arsenal and 3 behind chelsea mate ,
Davo {Ed001's Note - I think you need to read it again mate, he said over the Xmas period, not the season.}


Sorry Bob and Sorry Ed ,
Davo {Ed001's Note - no worries, I had to read it twice myself, that's how I realised straight away what you did.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:08:25
Here Ozone,
stick Film4 on, there's a film you might like - "The Muppet Christmas Carol".
Lol.
Just up your street.
The Real KB


Ozone as clearly absorbed too much Sun.
Jiminy Cricket


Or too much 'Sol'.
The Real KB


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:08:23
All injuries are now behind Gerrard. He will be in the starting line-up for the Newcastle game.

Cheers

Macca


Thats great news thanks macca

THE BIRD CAMPILE


Great news that Macca. Do you see him playing with Suarez upfront or playing in the middle with Adam or Henderson or Shelvey?

Thanks, KickingBro


Cheers Macca quality birthday present that mate

Jim


HI Macca/Ed's- I know it is diffilcult to reveal information, but could you offer any hope for the loyal LFC fans around stadium plans and transfer activity? It would be wonderful to just know that things are progressing positively and that the team/club will continue to be invested in and supported by the owners.

May I just add that I for one remain postive for the team, the manager and the owners. People need to remember what nearly happened to the club as a result of several years mis-management only a year or two ago.

We are playing good football (I was at the Norwich game and Chelsea away game and we were great on both occasions, just needed a little more composure and luck in the final third during the Norwich game). The building blocks of the new team and club are in place, we are playing the Liverpool way (attacking teams and playing pass and move footy) and the club is on a sound financial footing with intelligent owners. We have made great strides over the last year. We are strong defensively (which again is a solid base to start with) and we have made numerous goal chances which will only increase and hopefully be converted following the return of Steven Gerrard and more additions over the coming months.

Stay positive and support the greatest club around.

ConnorsLFC

YNWA {Ed001's Note - I still expect an announcement on the stadium any time, though I still wouldn't want to call it either way as everyone seems to have a different reading of whether it will be a new one or rebuild Anfield. As for players, I still expect two or 3 players to join in January, but I am not expecting hundreds of millions of pounds to be spent.}


Simply the BEST news we could have had. With Gerrard we look a completely different team. No one else currently in the team is anywhere near his level. That includes Suarez.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 18:01:52
hey....c'mon.....who will liverpool sign....pliz everybody?


Messi on a bosman...Happy now?

-DJ-


Don't know about anyone else I'm prayin for any of the following. Ramirez. Fletcher. Saldado. Kagawa. Podolski. Marin and ozil and Luik de Jong all top class players if we could get 2 of them I can see the goals flying in and 4th place getting closer and closer. I also think the input of a world class player or 2 would give the rest of the team a boost and maybe some confidence


*** hell mate, I'd have liked to have seen your Xmas pressie list.
The Real KB


Definitely not old spice and 'world's best dad' socks anyhow...

Cuchulainn's hounds


No socks or aftershave but my wife did get me a tour of anfield. Can't wait to walk down to the pitch and touch that famous sign on my way past.


Enjoy it mate. That's a sweet Christmas present! Kagawa and Higuain would be my choice for January signings (wishful thinking though, highly doubtful)

Cuchulainn's Hounds


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:53:16
Ozone's gotta have a new i pad or somethin similar for xmas,he's even responding to his own responses now ha ha. Keep goin Ozone,you might break it and give me something else to read,rather then your scientific breakdown of Andy Carroll.
Jonson.


If I broke it Jonson I wouldn't be able to post would I so you wouldn't have anything else to read.

Ozone


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:53:02
arsenal slip up, as well as chelsea yesterday. for me, maybe i am wrong, spurs will slide down the table. it is still in our hands, have to be positive. our defence is on top, need an out and out winger and we need a fox in the box type, dont think this will happen in jan though. sg is back so this is a massive positive. he is world class. what do some of you think of sg playing down the right side of midfield. maybe kelly behind him. enrique and downing on the other.
all to play for.

B o H


All to play for? tottenham may lose the odd point up til the end of the season but they have a much better team and will still be in 3rd at the end of the season.


Yeah 3rd & the end of the seaon ... then Harry leaves for England, Modric leaves for 30m, Bale leaves as well. Friedel & Parker retire & Adebayor moves on to his next club.

Goodnight Spurs!

dd


Whilst I agree that Tottenham have a better team than us do they have a better squad? I don't think they do. They haven't been hit with injuries yet and I'm pretty sure you are all familiar with Van der Vaart, Gareth Bale, Aaron Lennon and Ledley King's injury troubles. When they get hit with injuries they will fall down and hopefully, if Kenny gets his transfers right, we will be there to capitalise!

Thanks, KickingBro


Ofcorse they hav a better squad. Likes of bassong, dawson, huddlestone, pienarr, kranjar, livermore, rose, pavelychenko, defoe.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:48:52
Armchair and PS3 supporters need to get real in their attitudes and realise what being a fan really is. KK doing a great job, we have stability and growth, some faith and support would be good. We've got a few years of rebuilding to do yet. I'm fully behind the progress of the club as a whole and what the objectives are, I don't just support them when we win! Too much bitching and short termism.

EVO YNWA


Blah, Blah, Blah! heard it all before from the fans with their rose coloured glasses and there misplaced belief that Kenny is all knowing.

Steve


Didn't know any rebuilding was needed? Its been "your year" for the past 20 seasons


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:47:57
man utd have 11 first team squad players out injured; they beat both fulham and wigan 5-0; that tells you about the quality and mentality of the team. liverpool have almost full squad available and still can't beat bottom teams; that says alot about quality in the squad.

1. henderson should not be in starting line up, he doesn't take risk,scare of making mistakes and not good enough. this is not about the future, it is about now. jonjo shelvey is younger and more talented than him, he should be playing ahead of him. am so sure conor coady we offer more than him. why we bought and still can't figure out.

2. charlie! charlie! charlie!! somebody should tell him to keep it simple, he is a limited player.

3. CARROLL- THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO CARROLL'S LFC CAREER IS KK. DID HE BUY HIM TO RIDICULE HIM? why not play to this boy strength for all the money you bought him for. it is not carroll's fault if he cant play pass and move, it is not his type of game.why are you trying to change him? he is not technically gifted, his ability to create space and exploit it is non existence, all these were obvious when he was in newcastle; yet we bought him for all that money. PLAY TO HIS STRENGTH KK, PLANT HIM IN THE BOX AND WHIP CROSSES TO THE BOX FOR HIS CONSUMPTION. STOP RIDICULING THE POOR LAD. STOP PLAYING DOWNING ON THE RIGHT AND MAXI/BELLAMY ON THE LEFT. IT IS NOT WORKING.

4. downing is a typical english player, all he offers is pace nothing else. he gets in good positions but his ability to make right decisions is so poor for his age. he had the ball more than anyone yesterday and didnt do anything with it. for 20m, we deserve better than this crap play.

WHY DID WE BUY SOOOOOOOOOO POORLY?
LFC IS SO AVERAGE AND SO MANY FANS HAVE ACCEPTED THIS. WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD AND CREATE ANOTHER ERA OF MIGHTY REDS.
nigerian fan(tooblack)


Mate, you need to take your pills again.
Check out your post of 06 Nov @ 14.13 hrs.
The Real KB


At least Man U supporters came on this site & wished us a Happy Xmas... you're just plain rude!

dd


If Kenny had plans to play a pass and move game, then his panic purchase of Carroll, and his subsequent lack of performances lays firmly at the feet of the guy so many have their faith in! Kenny eered with this purchase so he should own the ramifications of Carrolls lack of ability to play in this side.

Steve


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:42:34
Hi Ed001, just to check. Dud Adebayor quit international duty after the shootings, or will he be going to ACN too? I guess Assou-Ekotto will go? {Ed001's Note - he quit initially, but he has since agreed to return to international football. But it is irrelevant as Togo never qualified, nor did Assou-Ekotto's Cameroon.}


I believe Adebayor did a lot of soul searching before quitting international football......and then reversing his decision. Togo or not to go, that was the question. Regarding the ACN, Togo are not to go, so Adebayor will not be required to go as he plays for Togo.

Rigsby.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:37:50
These idiots sayin kd should leave are stupid and thre getting sucked into the new way of running a club I.e if you don't have instant success then your sacked. Morons. Look at fergie when he took over man u they were nearly relegated in his first season but the club gave him time and havnt looked back since. The clubs with long term managers have way more success the proof is all around us just look at the teams who's managers have been there for more than 5 or 6 years and almost all of them are doing great even everton. Moyes has no money at all but almost always finnished in top 10. Kd is trying to build a team that will dominate for years not buy instant success like Chelsea did and look at the s**t there in now. A team full of old Players who don't want to be there. If your just after short term glory then start supporting man city


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:29:42
Temporary reprieve for pool. It will take you two home games to catch up with us (remember one home game is worth one point).

Poolgunner


Funny you would write that.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:28:43
I said that people needed to take a step back after the criticism yesterday. Us, arsenal and chelsea have all drew at home against lower teams but thats football for you and the beauty of the prem. As i said yesterday another point in the bag and another home game on fri. We are in a fine position going into the second half of season.

Kenny is doing a fine job and we can have a great season. Just lets start supporting our red shirted heroes.

Mighty reds


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:20:08
Give us a stat on how many crosses gave carroll a decent chance to attack it. Not one where he is standing still and not one where he has to back track. The man was running up and down the pitch to help us sout while you messiah suarez was standing still dont get me wrong suarez is amazing but in all fairness carroll works harder for the team
lfc all day

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I just can't understand how you can't see it. The crosses are going into the right areas. Carroll hasn't got the ability to lose his man and create his own space. He came deep as he'd had enough of Samba roughing him up and winning everything.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - we can't see it because you are quite simply wrong. You are just clueless lad, embarrassingly clueless.}


I tell you what Ed, I find it bizarre how the majority of people in th Kop were puffing and panting about the same thing yesterday and the general opinion of Carroll in the pub after was exactly how I'm putting it out on here. There wasn't a sole with an argument remotely close to yours and a few others on here yesterday.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - what's your point? Are any of those scouts? Do they just watch what a player does or do they just watch the game? Give it a rest and try supporting for a change.}


There's a hole in your logic Ozone


All this crap that our so called supporters are giving Carroll is so unjust its exactly the same situation as Lucas a few seasons ago a young player coming into LFC with a reputation but taking time to establish themselves. Remember the slating Lucas got and is the same with Carroll..

Give him a break..

Support LFC - all the squad!

YNWA jns


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:15:40
Eds do you know if we have any interest in any Swansea or QPR players? {Ed001's Note - none as far as I am aware. Though we have looked at Caulker, who is on loan at Swansea and I would be shocked if we weren't keeping tabs on Vorm.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:06:24
Ed , I know I am a Spurs fan , so this might not count for much , but why are the pool fans slagged off when they moan about carroll and henderson ?? The proof is in the pudding surely ! If you spend £20/35 million on players from other leagues , then you expect them to need time to settle , but these two both came from premier league teams , are supposed best of English young talent but still cant cut it , basically overpriced and over rated ! I feel for any team in this position when panic buys are made , but the fans pay the wages so should be able to have their say . Liverpool fans are used to having the best , and at present , they havent .
Davo


Quite a refreshing post from another teams supporter. All the best.

KNEE JERK


I think judgement should be made after next season.
The same was said about Lucas, Kuyt amongst others.
I'm sure spurs have said the same about players they had.
My point is that these players could come good once they realise to stop trying to hard to impress but play their natural game then the the support will follow, the confidence.
It's abit like learning to drive. If your family say your rubbish then your confidence affects your driving.

I'm sure Henderson & Carroll will come through once you all give them your backing.

Pyscic red


Worth noting Spurs lodged a 25m bid for Carroll prior to ours.


Please, the proof is not, nor never has it been, in the pudding. The proof is in the eating. It's not difficult!

Chris in Tamworth


Yep , I think that we did lodge a bid before yours but most Spurs fans were grateful that you ended up with him !
Davo


 

 

27 Dec 2011 17:06:22
Dalglish needs to leave now, If he loved the club so much he would just walk away, He hasnt got what it takes anymore to be a top manager, our results have shown that, anyone else and we would be shouting for them to be sacked but just because its KK we let him get away with it, no man is bigger than our club, We need something new, Carrol henderson and adam is the biggest waste of money i have ever seen in nearly 40 years of supporting liverpool, we need a change now, our club is going backwards

paul ynwa


What are you on mate?

Completely stupid and ignorant post.

maka YNWA JFT96


What can you say about this post?
Well it's pretty obvious that this person's opinion isn't that of encouragement and support. The phrase 'youll never walk alone' doesn't registrar.
My only conclusion is that this person is a manc or a bitter.
This person must be a d***.

My opinion is that under Daglish our football is a attacking pass n move style that's exciting to watch.
If our approach to goal was more deadly and out 17post n bar hits was converted to goals, then we would be up there with united and city now.
Considering we're we was under Roy, I think Daglish has done a miracle.
But then this is only my opinion.

Physcic red


Paul You Need to Walk Away!!!


'physcic red' just because his ''opinion'' isnt the same as yours then hes a manc or a D***, your pathetic, obviously liverpool are struggling, we have millions of fans around the world, do you think the original potser of the comment is the only 1 thats unhappy? kop on mate, davey


I have never seen fans like ours, we have the brainwave of a radio and memory of a gold fish, we have no respect to ourselves because if we have then we must surely be talking with more sense, look at the other teams above us, they all have had bad result in the last two matches par from the Man Utds who were lucky once again, look at our so called mature fans, a 40 years fan of LFC and talks like a 5 years old, how are we going to get better if our fans think like that, actually it makes me feel sick reading the comments of the so called supporters of LFC, with supporters like them who needs enemies.


I must apologise for my recent comments and leaving such negative about someone else's opinion.
I must stress that it annoys me when people leave constant doom and gloom posts about our team, manager, owners etc etc.
I should know better than to mock or down others thoughts.
Sorry to those it offends.
Physcic red


So it's worse now is it? Worse than when we came 8th in the premiership in 1993?!?

dd


I have never seen fans like ours, we have the brainwave of a radio and memory of a gold fish, we have no respect to ourselves because if we have then we must surely be talking with more sense, look at the other teams above us, they all have had bad result in the last two matches par from the Man Utds who were lucky once again, look at our so called mature fans, a 40 years fan of LFC and talks like a 5 years old, how are we going to get better if our fans think like that, actually it makes me feel sick reading the comments of the so called supporters of LFC, with supporters like them who needs enemies.
----------------------------------------No name so apologies for copy and paste, but how were Man U lucky. Winning 5 nil in last two matches is hardly lucky.

I have the same feeling about Liverpool as you clearly do about Man U but for god's sake, grow up.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 16:56:31
Arsenal 1-1 wolves ft


Wenger for the sack surely if they cannot beat Wolves at home!! Lol.

JRG


 

 

27 Dec 2011 16:56:17
I think we can still get 4th spot as Chelsea and Arsenal can slip up as much as us.... what I do think will hamper us more is Suarez ban, that's really going to hurt... however, it might mean we have to play to Carroll's strengths, let's see what he can do. {Ed002's Note - Equally both Chelsea and Arsenal will lose players to the African Cup of Nations.}


Good point Ed... and if Gerrard is now back for the rest of the season (fingers crossed), he has the passing quality to stretch the opposition, who knows the change might do something for the team.


The changing sands, all the best.

KNEE JERK


And another point to add is that Chelsea, Arsenal and spurs all need to come to Anfield still.

We are in a good position right now so get behind the team rather than slag them off.


'm a man U fan, but really hope that do make the top 4, North stick together.

I wasn't aware of who you had at home, but on recent form Spurs are the ones who I think will do very well.

It's the same on the United site when they don't play well, all the knockers come on and you would think that the team are getting relegated.

Good luck


 

 

27 Dec 2011 16:41:49
Hi Eds,

I'm hearing rumours about interest in Darren Bent and Niko Kranjcar from us (Liverpool)? Is there any substance behind these rumours?

Thanks in advance.
AK {Ed002's Note - Please read the other posts.}


Hope not,dont want others cast offs


 

 

27 Dec 2011 16:30:49
Merry Xmas, hope the 1-1 draw was what you all wanted ;) - pfft. and some of you still think your gonna get European football.

Well done to Charlie Adam, cracking goal. LOL.


Out of interest, which football team do you follow?


If you read through the posts actually you'll see most of the doom mongers are more geared towards relegation.. One bad result doesn't mean we're not gonna get top 4.. We'll just have to wait and see! Great 5-0 win yesterday, now go back to your own site :)

YNWA! (Adam)


 

 

27 Dec 2011 16:17:07
ok we all know and are sick of average purchases , for me enrique , coates , bellamy , and adam (for 6.5 mil) where very good business .. it is clear that other players havent performed and this is why i have to say , a creative attacking wide player and a goal scorer need to be purchased asap .. for me id take one of soldado , bent or higuan as for the other i am unsure maybe podolski or ozil ?

Mr. Deeds


 

 

27 Dec 2011 16:10:53
great website. I am getting sick and tired of kenny's rubbish formation and the british flops (as well as agger, kuyt, skirtel etc). They have to go as they are not good enough. Which striker do u think will have a great chance of joining us in January. Because we are playing man city in the semis carling cup and we have no chance of winning unless we get world class talent in the transfer window. Thank you.


Im getting tired of reading rubbish like this,we are four points off third,and we all would have taken that during hodgsons reign,have a whinge at the end of the season not now,get behind the team, rob


Flops? Are you serious, its obvious you dont watch Liverpool at all... Best defence in the league thanks to Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger and Enrique... I hate when fools like this come on this site and give it loads, fair enough you can have your say but what are you on about seriously... All the signings we have made have more or less settled into the team now, bar Carroll who just needs a run of games and some confidence... As far as i'm concerned we only really need a proven goalscorer, i think the rest of the squad are good enough to get us a top 4 spot.

Rocky


Sorry have to disagree - Agger and Skirtel are one of the best defense partnerships in the premiership so far this season...


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:56:26
All 3 things I mentioned, I completely disagree with!
Thoughts Ed? {Ed002's Note - The "fans" are extremely fickle, but it is unusual to see so much against Dalglish when the side drew. Typically there is a figure or two of hate everyweek - we saw that every week last year and the same is happening this year. Perhaps the fans have realised that all the players they want out are those who have arrived in the past year hence turning again on Dalglish. I don't know.}---------------

Cheers for the response Ed, when one of the Liverpool Ed's are online, could you show them the original post again? I would also like one if there opinions! Thanks

{Ed002's Note - I am afraid you are stuck with me and the response I have given.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:50:24
Hi eds I know most people have pointed it out that we need a clinical striker and just wondering which strikers we have interest in? Cheers!
Great site {Ed002's Note - Please read the posts.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:43:53
I always thought hiding was not getting involved and always standing next to one of the centre halves if your a forward so it looks like your constantly marked,then no one will pass the player the ball to that player. Never heard of showing for a ball as hiding though especially classic hiding ha ha. Heard they taught some s**te at Lilleshall back in the day,classic hiding must've been one of em.
Jonson.

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Aye up another one with insults. The irony here is that you've gone back on your insult Jonson. Thats what Carroll did for the majority of the game, stand next to Samba or endeavored to participate in nonsensical bouts of movement in vain attempts to lose him.

Its also possible to take the ball at your feet with the centre half up your backside but you need to meet the ball, something Carroll doesn't seem to be to familiar with. The problem is when he comes deep to help out and attempt to get on the ball it doesn't work as he's a danger on the ball in the middle of the park.

We go 2-1 up at stamford Bridge, he comes on trips over the ball in the middle loses out to Lampard and luckily for us Merieles puts it over the bar. It could quite easily have been a different story.

When he runs with the ball its tantamount to my 5 year old in the back garden. He's not helping the team out by tracking back he's hiding from his job as a centre forward.

Ozone


Ozone

Where your argument regarding Carroll falls down is that Carroll came closest to scoring yesterday than any other player. He was denied twice by fantastic saves and put a difficult header narrowly wide with the keeper well beaten. His outfield play still leaves a lot to be desired but he is trying and you cannot fault his effort yesterday.

As I said in an earlier post, Suarez missed far simpler opportunities than Carroll had and didn't even work the keeper. If Carroll had missed the chances that Suarez missed, or gave the ball away with as much regularity, then he would be crucified on here.

JRG


Yes JRG, but never let the truth get in front of another persons BS.

The Irish Rover


Came closest to scoring sitters that should've been put away against poor opposition. On both occasions he merely swung a leg. The first his favoured left peg and the second with his weaker right. A more cultured player would've dinked the first chance over the keeper, the second should have been hit with more force. Either way they should've been goals. Are we also forgetting the chance he had when he was to busy looking to the heavens when the ball was still in play.

In a nutshell thats all he does, swing his left peg and hope for the best. Most of his goals are scored that way.

Ozone


Correct me if I'm wrong JRG, but it is Carrolls job to stick the ball in the back of the net so statistically speaking you would expext him to come the closest out of the 11 Liverpool players on the park.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - just like it is your job to support the team you mean? But statistically speaking you rank below most United supporters in terms of supporting our players.....}


Look Ed its a matter of opinion, some of the lads yesterday were having a pop at Adam, lads that have been to every European Cup final and followed Liverpool home and away for years. Are you saying they aren't true supporters?

I don't see the issue with Adam, to me he's been a great buy. His passing abilities are undoubted, I had reservations regarding his tracking back and chasing but i've seen enough so far to conclude that he is a good addition to our squad, specifically when Lucas does the holding work.

As I say its all about opinions and I don't see any potential in Carroll whatsover. I don't see how he can partner anyone upfront and I don't see him as a lone striker with what he has in his locker.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - except that isn't what you were saying, are you really this dense that you still aren't getting it? I am not picking at your blatant lack of support for one of our players, but for the fact that you are making up lies in an attempt to prove your point. At least try and be fair in your assessment of him. He worked hard yesterday, he didn't hide at all, so please stop with the nonsense about him not trying and hiding yesterday.}


'statistically speaking you would expext him to come the closest out of the 11 Liverpool players on the park'

So surely he has done his job if he has come the closest to scoring? You cannot possibly blame him if the keeper makes two world class saves from him?

And to say that he should have dinked the first chance is ridiculous - there was neither the time or space to do anything other than what he did.

JRG


Hello peeps ! aint been on for a while three quick points 1. sack kenny ? have a word its a work in progress and we ARE heading in the right direction frustrating at times but with stevie back we will gain the cutting edge back 2. can the eds or macca see us going for a striker and attacking midfielder in jan or just a striker ? 3. ozone is a cretin you waste time and effort replying to his nonsense , great work eds looking forward to the loons asking about oezil kaka messi and ronaldo for the next month i bet !!! andyred1


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:34:52
Think Carroll played a decent game yesterday. In my opinion, the big difference between the Carroll of Newcastle and Carroll of Liverpool is the way the rest of the team play. At Newcastle he knew where to run to as soon as the team won the ball because it was always going to be coming to him next, he was the main man. Now at Liverpool, once we win the ball the team is looking for Suarez. So, Carroll has to think, 'ok, what's Suarez going to do next and where do I need to run to to get on the end of his ball.' And, to be fair, even the best player in the world would struggle to predict what Suarez is going to do next. In my opinion, it's going to take a long time to fit into this system as I'd say he's never been in a team before where he hasn't been the main target.

Our main problem is that there's no creativity from midfield, so Suarez has to drop back and start everything....and then there's no one smart enough to figure out what Suarez will do next. But, Gerrard may fix all of these problems and allow Suarez to focus on beating only one man and then sticking it in the back of the net.

-Shane.


Very concise comment. Hit the nail on the head. That's why Maxi plays best with Luis, they are on the same wavelength.aklfc


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:28:38
hi eds great site hope you all had a great christmas.
now on to a serious note liverpool obviously need a fox in the box.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:19:47
John Barnes has reccomended Gonzalo Higuian as our potential hero infront of goal. Highly unlikely due to massive wages £30 million+ transfer fees plus spanish tax on players of i think 20% and the whole champions league situation. The most likely striker in my opinion is a player for £20 million the same as suarez. Of course everyone would love the Higuains e.t.c.but so unfortunately it won't happen until champions league is reached.! i have a sneaky feeling that a bid could be made for Seydou Doumbia of CSKA.!

BLANCO7


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:19:12
Ozone, is that you then ? Washed your hands of him ?
The Real KB

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I won't deny it KB, I'm disappointed when I get to the game and see him starting. I've got my reasons for why I don't rate Carroll but would love it if he proved me wrong. I just think theres massive flaws in the basic skills he should possess as a centre forward at this stage in his development.

Henderson tends to have his quite games but theres glimpses of quality and you can see what he has can be worked. I don't think the same can be said for Carroll. kenny puts a brave spin on things for the media but I'm sure behind the scenes hes scratching his head.

You only have to look at the warm ups before the games to see the flaws in the basics. The one touch session he can't cope with. The shots are rarely on target, his long balls don't end up at feet etc. etc.

Ozone


Well, I can respect your opinion even if I don't agree with it. You go the matches, so fair enough. But I don't see how we all can allow him to fail. He's been Kenny's biggest signing and I can't see m / any more of those, if the stadium issue is round the corner. He needs another season and a half. There's no other way. If by then it hasn't happened, it might cost Kenny his job.
Don't you at least acknowledge that mate?
The Real KB


Perfectly summed up The Real KB.

JRG


Yes I do KB mate, fair comment. As I have said, I would be over the moon if come this time next year he's found form and I got it totally wrong.

Ozone


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:13:05
The team is playing fantastic at the moment. Please people stop slating Carroll. He was excellent yesterday and clearly has a lot of potential.

We have played great against every team this season bar tottenham and yes, there is a thing called luck which everyone needs. Unfortunately it has not gone our way so far.

We are potentially 4 points of 4th place at christmas, and we still havent had any luck. This is also by only scoring 21 goals. This is a sign of a great team!

Once we get the luck, with the support we have, we will be champions once again!

Thanks
Mitul


Make that 3 points of 4th place :-)


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:12:41
Hi Ed's.
I've read through all the gossip and it's a little gloomy, as nobody seems that likely.
Is there any new info to get me exited?

Thanks Ed's and hope you had a good xmas!

Burnsy {Ed002's Note - Nothing I can whip you into a frenzy over.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:07:30
I tell you what Ed, theres nothing more I'd wish for than to be proven wrong on the Carroll issue. If theres something in his locker i've missed or i've interpreted what i've seen in his ability incorrectly and he goes on to be effective in an entertaining Liverpool campaign, i'll come on here and be more than happy to be hit with a barrage of 'I told you so, you know nothing etc. etc.'.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - It has become tedious - we are going to kill this whole thread as it bores me and no doubt others.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 15:03:02
Ed, I don't know what you think, but the negativity after the game yesterday was shocking yesterday! I seen on a different webiste that:
1) KK is no better than Roy Hodgson
2) Andy Carroll still getting stick, dispite him playin well yesterday
3) that we won't even make the Europa League, never mind the Champions League!

I think these 'fans' are clueless as they clearly only look for things to moan at, despite the fact we are playing some cracking football!

All 3 things I mentioned, I completely disagree with!
Thoughts Ed? {Ed002's Note - The "fans" are extremely fikle, but it is unusual to see so much against Dalglish when the side drew. Typically there is a figure or two of hate everyweek - we saw that every week last year and the same is happening this year. Perhaps the fans have realised that all the players they want out are those who have arrived in the past year hence turning again on Dalglish. I don't know.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 14:59:34
Ozone
I'm curious to know what position you play/played, because as a full back (can also play LM) Carroll would be a dream to play with.

As good as Enrique is defensivley sometimes he misses the right time to cross the ball, which p*sses me off as i play that position.

If you can't see that Carroll had a good game yeaterday and worked tirelessly for 90 mins then i'm afraid you haven't got a clue.

KT!


I used to play in the centre of midfield. In principle (from a CM's eye) Carroll should be ideal to play with if he could take the ball at his feet with his back to goal, hold it up then spin off. But he cant.

I disagree with the poor delivery. The deliveries there Carroll is do busy zig zagging around in a nonsensical fashion trying to lose his man before the deliveries put in and thats why the deliveries are looking poor. If he had a turn of pace and strength he wouldn't need to do so much jossling, he could lose his man when the pass is placed.

Ozone


Ozone... that's an interesting post and made me think about it - what is scary is, if this is true, we chose to buy a centre forward for 35mill who is unable to control the ball at his feet, spin off a man to find space to shoot, lose a marker! Who picked this player for Liverpool? Camolli or Dalglish?


I don't know but who ever scouted him needs roasting, thats if he ever was scouted (11th hour panic buy in my opinion post Torres debacle, nothing else available).

Ozone


Carrol will come good
We paid around 25 mill for Torres and sold him for 50 so we only paid 10 mill for carrol. Ignore the price tag


 

 

27 Dec 2011 14:45:45
Ed in all likelihood we will be buying a striker in January transfer window. With the possibility of Suarez being out fr a lot of big games, do you think Liverpool will add to the squad early in jan? As oppose to leaving it quite late like last year? Cheers mate {Ed002's Note - We cannot tell when players will arrive. Sorry.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 14:29:21
My season ticket is in the paddock 1 seat in front of where JWH sits when he's there/ David Moores old seat in the directors box and I can guarantee u de Jong was not there yesterday as i was surveying the box trying too find him for at least 20 min!!


Mpc


 

 

27 Dec 2011 14:25:59
This is just out of the blue but how about instead of slating Carroll we try singing for him like we do for Suarez and see what happens. If he knows the fans are behind him it might give him the confidence to bang a few goals in. Just an idea but I think while he's a Liverpool player he deserves the same treatment as all the other players. Just sing for him for one game and sea what happens.


He gets the singing when he does something, West Brom away. 'Ohh the lad, you should see Andy Carroll ------' and 'sweet caroll nine' was booming out the Smethwick End Stand concourse at half time and for 10 mins into the second half.

Ozone


Sweet Carroll Nine! Oh oh oh!
Scoring never looked so good!
Sweet Carroll Nine WOAH OH OH
Goals all the time
Woah oh oh
Just like kenny said he would!

Thanks, KickingBro


Just watched the game for a 3rd time and have come to a conclusion: the sooner Suarez's ban begins the sooner we will start scoring goals. Mark my words. Controversial statement, but think about it. Everything goes through him at the moment, he is not playing well and nothing happens. When he is not in the team others will try things and be brought into the game more. Gerrard, Carroll, Bellamy and Downing will combine better, Wait and see.

Chuck Norris


A few hundred away fans is not exactly 30 odd thousand home fans is it


 

 

27 Dec 2011 14:13:10
{Ed001's Note - I know what hiding is, clearly you don't, he was always showing for the ball, you are a joke lad. Just another no mark whinger who failed to make it in the pros and has a chip on his shoulder about it.}

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Yes showing for the ball when theres no point, roughly defined as 'classic hiding'. No point in arguing about it Ed you have your opinion and I have mine. Time will tell with Carroll.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - except what you have is nonsense, not an opinion. You have blatantly lied about Carroll's performance to make him out to be worse than he is. At least give the lad his due, he is not the finished article, he is massively lacking in confidence (I am sure whingers like you are a great help to that!) and he is not playing regularly. But he is trying, he is showing for the ball (classic hiding my backside, you talk some nonsense) and he clearly desperately wants to do well. He is looking to cover team mates, so it shows a willingness to sacrifice himself for the team, which is something a number of other players could learn from.}


I always thought hiding was not getting involved and always standing next to one of the centre halves if your a forward so it looks like your constantly marked,then no one will pass the player the ball to that player. Never heard of showing for a ball as hiding though especially classic hiding ha ha. Heard they taught some s**te at Lilleshall back in the day,classic hiding must've been one of em.
Jonson.


When Liverpool score you can see the delight on Carroll's face. He wants to do well for the club and fans so let's get behind him!

Corkpoolred


Watch the game again on LFC tv Ed and tally up how many 50-50s Samba wins in the air, it equates to in exces of 90%.

If you think my reasonings nonsense then so be it. Footballs about opinions. In my opinion Samba had Carroll in his back pocket. Carroll couldn't lose him and I watched him try all the typical tricks you would expect from a centre forward.

Dzecko would've turned Samba inside out yesterday and thats the sort of player we should be comparing Carroll too as they are of similar profile but a gulf apart in quality.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - I think this thread has dragged out long enough now.}


I thought carroll played well just needs a goal or two then things will click
k-h


What Ed001 said ^^^^

Matt S - YNWA


He played good he, he just need to jump at times , he never jumps up for the ball


Give us a stat on how many crosses gave carroll a decent chance to attack it. Not one where he is standing still and not one where he has to back track. The man was running up and down the pitch to help us sout while you messiah suarez was standing still dont get me wrong suarez is amazing but in all fairness carroll works harder for the team
lfc all day


How tall is samba? 6`8 i think. carrol 6`3. samba is strong defender and reads the game well. i personally think carroll was always going to struggle against him. please name a player who got the better of samba in the air this season. thanks j {Ed001's Note - he is 6ft 4.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 14:09:37
If, as you say, we wouldn't get £5 mill on the market for him, how could we sell him or get rid of him as you suggest ?
The lad needs to work hard, get back to what he can clearly do, and be afforded a decent chance to do it without fellas like you on his back.
The Real KB

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What can he do then KB? He's had one good season playing for the local club he supported as a boy. A large part of that successful season being down to the commeradary amongst a nucleus of Newcastle players and their drinking habits (reminisent of the crazy gang). The same nucleus now disbanded by Pardew to avoid unsettling a squad he's building.

All I see is a player who can't head, control the ball, run with the ball, create his own space, have a turn of pace or generally read the game.

I remember last year before the Carroll signing when it was purely speculation and one of the Ed's dismissing the rumour entirely on the premise that Liverpool wouldn't be interested in a beer swilling bully. Im not sure if it's the same Ed001 now vehemently trying to defend the player on the basis that 'he tracks back'.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - you really are a fool. I have never claimed that Carroll is the best striker in the world, I have said numerous times he is not my type of player. But, unlike you, I will give players a chance and will keep an open mind each time I watch them, just in case I have been wrong. Carroll showed a huge improvement yesterday, but you are far too busy whining and moaning to notice. I am wondering if you even bothered to watch anything other than MOTD, you certainly don't seem to have watched the same match I have seen 4 times now. His passing was a bit loose, though not as loose as Johnson's, who was awful yesterday but I notice you aren't slating him despite him always being the point where possession broke down. Most of the balls Carroll received were head height right at him, so all he could do was make a standing leap while the defender was able to run up and leap over him. Unless the passes start being placed slightly away from him, either in front so he can drop off, or to the sides so he can attack them, there is nothing he can do. No point him making a run when the ball is going where he is running from is there? Unlike Johnson, who would go to make a run then stop and complain when the ball was played into the space he should have been running into. The only ball Carroll was able to move onto, he was able to drop off the defender, control on his chest superbly and lay it off. But I am sure your vast knowledge of the game understands all these points doesn't it Ozone?}


Ed, with the exception of spurs away, i've been to every home and away game this season including all League Cup games. Iv'e tried to keep an open mind about Carroll but I literally cannot take anything to go forward with from what i've seen. Its a dead duck in the water.

Ozone


Ed, you will also notice from some of my other posts that Johnsons my other bug bear. I don't understand why Kenny doesn't start with Martin Kelly. Chelsea equaliser down to Johnson, Fulham winner down to Johnson. Every defencive mistake starts with Johnson.

I was at the game yesterday and i've watched it again on LFC tv. i'll stand by my judgement of Carroll all day long as i've seen enough to be sure in my mind that he's not good enough. I've kept an open mind and left it until now to vent my spleen as I don't enjoy denouncing our players. I specifically watched him off the ball yesterday, as I have in other games. He is one dimensional and we run out of ideas having him up front as the so called 'other option'.

Ozone


Well said ed 001, sick of people reading newspapers and then making judgement, instead of watching player in action. i did not see blackburn game, last one with carroll i saw was fulham, thought he did very well, unlucky not to score. his time will come and then all these dimwits will clain they knew he was great.

B o H


Ozone,
As I've said before, probably 90% of Liverpool fans would not have targeted Carroll before he signed. He didn't strike me as a typical LFC player, ed001 the same, loads more. But he's with us. The lad clearly does want to do well, he's putting the graft in but it's not happening for him. Unfortunately he's at the part of the team where the same could be said of everyone, including Suarez to an extent. I hope a new signing or two can lift things. AC needs a couple of goals, coming on when we're 2-0 up or something. Cos at the moment, he is a young lad bereft of confidence. It's in his head mate.
Kenny cannot afford to see him fail and be sold on at a huge loss. The Americans will not stand for that. We should ****ing get behind him, cos the alternative does not bear thinking about.
The Real KB


 

 

27 Dec 2011 14:13:53
kenny has done a great job at lfc since taking over but only in steadying a very rocky ship which was badly needed at that time but this is a results business and we just arent getting them whether its tactics or ill feeling in the dressing room there is something just not right behind the seens kenny has got to stay at the club but not as manager we need a 10-15 year manager to get a team in place so he can mould it into a winning team on all fronts too many managers thru the door in recent times which never bodes well look how many managers fergie has out lasted thats the kind of permanent stability we need maybe this season or next kenny will step down and a new manager will be sought out for all us fans to here the same excuses it takes time for a new manager and players to gel etc etc etc then before we know it will 30 years without a league title i think fsg missed a great opp to get that man here sooner rather than later also we wouldnt be stuck with carroll hendo etc who are a step in the wrong direction we need ready made talent at this present time also how bad did gerro make adam and hendo look when he came on the guy is different class just a pity lucas n gerro cant play together this season if so we would most def be sitting alot better off than we are now


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:41:50
{Ed001's Note - clearly you have no knowledge whatsoever of the game, as Carroll was looking for the ball all the time, at no point did he hide as you accuse. I am wasting my time talking to you about football, you don't even understand it, perhaps netball would be more your level?}

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If you knew about the game Ed, you'd know what 'hiding' is. We've all done it (those who've played at a good level) when we're not in the mood when there maybe other things on the mind, so its easy to spot it. The problem with carroll is its persistent and its now second nature to his game because deep down he doesn't want to be at Anfield.

His attempts at heading the ball stink of 'hiding' his nonsensical movement stinks of 'hiding'. He didn't want to come in the first place. He's a geordie lad who just wanted to play at Newcastle and stay a local lad.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - I know what hiding is, clearly you don't, he was always showing for the ball, you are a joke lad. Just another no mark whinger who failed to make it in the pros and has a chip on his shoulder about it.}


Ozone you are talking rubbish from start to finish. He made one coc-up on Monday when he had his back turned to Downing (I think) as Downing re-crossed the ball because he was expecting it. As for his not wanting to be at Anfield, I can assure you for a fact he does. RED LENIN


Well said ed.


Ozone, are you in any way related to RedTurk? Or do you both love spouting nonsense? Maybe a relationship could form between you two...

Alex


Ozone your blowing fumes out your hole
k-h


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:39:24
Can anyone tell me the logic behing Suarez being magnificent when he slots the ball in the post, and Carroll is crap when he does the same thing?


Suarez makes own chances and works nuts off!


A ball in the post gives the same amount of goals anyway


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:39:11
Another game yesterday in which we were again unlucky. Another game which we dominated and had 28 shots on and off target to many times this season this has happened looking at our losses and draws we have been the better team in every game except the spurs game. Look at 12 months ago we wernt creating chances and conceding far to many. No we have the best defensive record in the PL and creating more chances than any team we've played bar Spurs. I agree results are not good enough, look at the Sunderland, Norwich, Swansea, Fulham, Wigan and Blackburn. 6 teams in the bottom half of the table and only 3 goals scored against them. But for people so jumping on the players and Kennys backs as i said best defensive record in prem, creating loads of chances every game and hit the woodwork nearly 20 times in as many games and the missed penalties. This shows the team has hugely improved and Kenny has turned the team around. All were missing is a natural finisher, someone who is clinical. Imagine with all the chances we create someone like RVP in our team. I would love to see a new winger come in in Jan to add more threat but a new striker has to be top priority we need to bring him in in the first week of Jan aswell. Top 4 isnt to late. Support the team and get behind the manager were still a work in progress


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:50:14
i dont care where we finish in the league we could finish 12th an id still support liverpool because they are my team and thats all that matters. ppl would be praising andy if bunn didnt pull of a cracking save u all need to stop moaning and start supporting the atmousphere at anfield yesterday was poor u could hear a pin drop what happend to our world famous fans singing there hearts out come on boys an girls just start singing!!

big red john


I reckon the crowd had a massive hangover. Gerrard certainly lifted the crowd and team. Wish we would start the game as fast as we play in the last 10 mins.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:46:26
If you look through the archives from the summer you will see my name all over posts talking up how we should move for Ba, who was available on a free due West Ham irrationality of putting a release clause in his contract should the club get relegated. Most people responded in ridicule of my opinion, and although we will never know whether or not he would have been as prolific alongside Suarez, one thing for sure is that we would be now looking at the fact that he has scored nearly as many goalsy on his own as our entire team.
People on here talking of Krasic, Kaka etc, pull yourselves together.
Kaka is a has been, yes a good player but not as influential as gerrard, or as good a passer as gerrard or adam, he would command too much in wages.
Krasic has been touted by many top clubs, and im sorry to admit it but we cant compete right now, not because we are not a top club but because we are not in the champions league.
We can still top players, but look more toward Luuk De Jong than Kaka.
Personally if you look at our season i think every keeper coming to anfield has put in a near MoM performance to keep their team in the game, Bunn, Vorm, Ruddy, Hart have all been outstanding against us.
We just need the rub of the green to go our way, another striker/winger would help. Id go after De Jong, either jan or summer and then look at Chris Eagles, Scott Sinclair or Aiden McGeady as either one or two additions, we can get these players for.decent financial packages and they would definately help.the team. I know their is no current interest in these wingers but all three are viable.

Ed, any thoughts on my essay? Haha

Anfield Andy {Ed002's Note - The issue with Ba was his knees and the failed mediacals on the mainland and at Stoke.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:34:20
{Ed001's Note - give it a rest, you clearly didn't even bother to watch what he did. Did you even watch the match? When Gerrard came on and was caught upfield, who was filling in the space left in midfield? Oh yes, Andy Carroll had raced back 40 yards to fill the gap while Stevie walked back, but I am sure you were far too busy whining about him not beating 9 men before slotting home to notice what he actually did do. It is no wonder the players all look bereft of confidence, they are getting no support from the crowd, just groans and moans.}

I agree completely. I was watching Carroll throughout the game, he raced back to defend corners and freekicks, nearly scored twice if it wasn't for the gk and had a decent game. I don't understand why people slate him so much, Suarez missed glorious chances too yet nobody slates him like the abuse Carroll gets. I want Carroll to do well, unlike much of you on here, and I give him my full support. If the crosses from the wings were of better quality, he would have scored for sure.

YoungRed


Carroll had a good game and tried hard. Gerrard looked well off the pace and very unfit. Hope he regains it fast.

Chuck Norris


Tracking back here and there clearly now translates as a good striker. No problem, we're going to win the league. Problem solved.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - still lacking that understanding I see! You said he didn't work hard, then when it is pointed out you were wrong and he was working hard, you have no changed tack to say it doesn't matter anyway. Give it a rest, you are embarrassing.}


Not at all Ed I was being satirical. I don't feel for one moment that he's put a shift in in a red shirt. I'll stand by my accusation of 'hiding'.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - you can stand by it, but you are just making yourself look even more clueless.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:28:07
i love this site but im getting really dragged down by the negativity on here. dont know how the ed's cope! im totally shocked by "fans" calling for kenny to be sacked. in my opinion, we are playing some really good football, just obviously not converting our chances. much higher tempo and better movement than any of the dross i watched under hodgson and alot of the time under rafa. if we had taken our chances, it could have been 4-1 and nobody would be moaning.
cheers, big steve177


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:26:25
Hi eds just wondered when the financial fair play rule comes into affect. Maybe when it does some of these idiots on here will realise that lfc are getting themselvs in a great position by getting rid of high earners like Johnson and looking to bring in talented youngsters with low wages. We've got a march on every one at the mo because the way I see it the like of man utd and Chelsea will need to do a rapid clear out. Please tell me if I'm mistakenly optimistic. {Ed002's Note - June 30, 2014 but the three years prior to that (i.e. from this season) are used to gather data. Clubs will demonstrate that they are moving in teh right direction. Chelsea's problem has been that as they have a very low turnover of players, many have gotten old at the same time (Lampard, Drogba, Ferreira etc.) hence them wanting to do some rebuilding. I would not worry about the FFP rules at all.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:19:57
I wish some people would give Carrol a break

yesterday he played well he was stopped by two great saves was inches wide from a header and had one ruled out and if suarez left it to downing would have stood...

anytime he has played lately its been for 5 mins what can he do in 5 mins?

If the fans got behind him instead of giving him constant stick he probably would of put away a few from yday and atleast hes getting decent attempts on goal which nobody else in our team can do

Carrol Will Come Good


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:13:39
How realistic , or reasonable do you think it is to expect a club to go from near meltdown, struggling in the lower half of the table to challenging for the title in one season (and a bit) ? You need a reality check and realise that the managment are doing a damn good job. From reading this site and from the (lack of) atmosphere at anfield im thinking that a lot of Liverpool fans are not as special as they once were. no class.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:12:34
Hey , Would you put Newcastle in a top 7 now or , just say the league has a top 6 ?

Newcastle have done surprising well thus far .

Qwerty


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:10:14
morning all i felt confidence was at seasons low yesterday.Too many players not stepping up to plate which i find suprising considering so many have captains expperiance.I also think Kenny has lost his sense of humour during press meetings and also looks very down i know its difficult after these dissapointments but someone needs to keep spirits up.Maybe we need to freshen things up with some sighnings but not just for the sake of it we need some quality.Hope to see Kenny with a smile again soon best sight in football.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 13:08:28
Macca is a legend!!

He predicted Stevie to be in the squad at boxing day ages ago!!

Macca - with the transfer window coming up...how about everyday in January at 8pm we have a little post from you to give all the fans an update!

God bless

Deanz


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:59:55
First time i've ever used the site on my phone Eds, and i have to say its brilliant! Reading rumours today suggesting that Liverpool might be ready to raid the german market. My question to you is do you think the likes of Podolski, Reus and Ozil would suit the premier league? I'd take all 3 of them if they're available! Germans are like English grafters with flair!

YNWA (Adam) {Ed001's Note - yes, Podolski I have always thought would be sensational in England, and Ozil is a player who could play anywhere.}


I was of a similar opinion tbf ed :) i understand that Podolski is possibly but not likely, and Ozil is potentially a possible for the summer. No idea about Reus though as i've only seen internet speculation. A player who i think is very similar to Ozil is Mario Goetze but my knees tremble at the thought of his price tag :S

YNWA (Adam)


Marco reus and marko marin seems like good players. abit small physically, but its how u use ur advantages to cover ur disadvantages i guess? would really love to see Podolski play for us.

Kaizer


 

 

27 Dec 2011 01:41:26
{Ed001's Note - give it a rest, you clearly didn't even bother to watch what he did. Did you even watch the match? When Gerrard came on and was caught upfield, who was filling in the space left in midfield? Oh yes, Andy Carroll had raced back 40 yards to fill the gap while Stevie walked back, but I am sure you were far too busy whining about him not beating 9 men before slotting home to notice what he actually did do. It is no wonder the players all look bereft of confidence, they are getting no support from the crowd, just groans and moans.}

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This is the sort of thing thats getting right up my nose. No I don't expect him to beat nine men and slot the ball in the back of the net. What I expect from a man at 6'3" is to at least hold his own as a target man and pose an aerial threat in the opposing half. What I would expect from a professional footballer with England caps is for him to have some positional knowledge and not 'hide' for spells. I would also expect at this level a player to afford the ability to have a good first touch and not need three in order to get it 90% of the time onto the outside of his left foot.

He can't do any of this. You only have to watch his shooting accuracy during the warm up to see how poor he is. He's a duff and I'll stand by this comment all day long. I wouldn't even say he's suited to route one as he's got limitations with that let alone the pass and move stuff we play.

I'm not one of the boo boys constantly looking for something to moan about. Theres been glimpses of class with Henderson and he will in no doubt become a class player. Charlie Adam can be magestic in games, his left foots like a wand. Downing does demonstrate his class in spells and is clearly comfortable with pass and move. All three in my opinion are good signings. Suarez undoubted and Enrique buy of the season.

Theres two areas that infuriate me. Carroll at centre forward and Glen Johnson at right back. Carroll wouldn't get anywhere near the team sheet for me for reasons expressed and I'd play Martin Kelly infront of Glen all day long. The lads class, his defencive qualities are far superior to Johnsons and his crossing and passing ability far more accurate.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - clearly you have no knowledge whatsoever of the game, as Carroll was looking for the ball all the time, at no point did he hide as you accuse. I am wasting my time talking to you about football, you don't even understand it, perhaps netball would be more your level?}


'I'm not one of the boo boys constantly looking for something to moan about'

Could have fooled me......

JRG


The problem isn't Andy Carroll or Stewart Downing for that matter. I actually think Andy's been very unlucky. The problem lies elsewhere. We're still two to three quality players short. My considered view is that we still need a quality winger on the right and a creative midfielder a la Modric or Silva. Add to this a striker who has a high conversion ratio and that would make Liverpool competitive. Having said that we have to wait and see whether the club has sufficient resources to bring in the the missing piece of the jigsaw. However, I'm still optimistic and for heaven's sake give KK the support he needs and deserves.


Is that right Ed, if you think Carroll possesses ability you havn't a clue about football.

I played for Birmingham City as a youth under Ron Saunders and had a period at Lilleshall with England at the school of excellence. I know a dud when I see one. When it eventually goes pear shaped with carroll, as in no doubt it will, I'll refer you back to this post.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - yes, yes, I am sure you know football just because you played it. The question wasn't whether Carroll was any good anyway, I was just pointing out how wrong you were about his performance yesterday. Which your talk of nearly being a pro does not change in the slightest, you still have no idea of what went on in the match. You can refer me back to any post you like, but you will still be wrong and I will still be right that he did work hard and did chase back to fill in the hole Gerrard left. Perhaps you should go back and watch Carroll play again, this time without the 'I hate Carroll' blinkers on, just watch him, not the match. I doubt it will change anything, that is why so few ex-players make good scouts, they have no idea how to watch a game like a scout.}


Ha, its not just me who has this opinion of ozone then ( scroll down ) i dont think netball would suit him/her either, because some tactical knowledge is required there also. Maybe hopscotch with kids at school would your level.All the best.

KNEE JERK


I think i've forgotten more about football than what you know about the game ozone. All the best.

KNEE JERK


Tactical knowledge Knee Jerk?? Well if you think carrolls the way forward why don't you go and follow Stoke.

Route one suits Carroll, hang around up front waiting for the huff, might get a loose ball here and there to swing the left peg at.

Dzecko is your modern type traditional centre forward. Big, strong, good in the air, turn of pace (as was demonstrated at Anfield in the last minute when they nearly nicked it) and quick feet, all of which Carroll hasn't got.

Enlighten me Knee jerk. What are these ground breaking master tactics involving Carroll which apparently im to ignorant to see?

Ozone


Yes, your right thats why we signed the likes of Downing, Enrique to play route one. It was'nt so we could play with width, which we have been lacking in for a long time. And you mentioned Dzecko who had bad first but is now showing his class. MESSAGE!

KNEE JERK


 

 

27 Dec 2011 01:18:09
{Ed001's Note - give it a rest, you clearly didn't even bother to watch what he did. Did you even watch the match? When Gerrard came on and was caught upfield, who was filling in the space left in midfield? Oh yes, Andy Carroll had raced back 40 yards to fill the gap while Stevie walked back, but I am sure you were far too busy whining about him not beating 9 men before slotting home to notice what he actually did do. It is no wonder the players all look bereft of confidence, they are getting no support from the crowd, just groans and moans.}

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Utter rubbish, he hadn't raced back anywhere, he was just in the position plodding his way upfield yards off the front line as he just couldn't be bothered to keep up with play. In any event, if thats the criteria for constituting what were looking for in a number nine then we may as well accept that Man Utd have well and truly knocked us off our perch.

The million dollar question clears the matter for me irrespective of how I could outline 10-15 reasons why I think he's a poor player. Would there be any suitors in January at £10 million? Not a cat in hells chance. We wouldn't get £5 million for him as he hasn't got any potential or the basic skills to work with. Championship at best.

What was it Shankly said "Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple." Well that concept went out of the window when we brought Carroll in.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - try going back and watching the game without being such a knob today, you will find I am right and you are a sad little boo boy who knows nothing.}


If, as you say, we wouldn't get £5 mill on the market for him, how could we sell him or get rid of him as you suggest ?
The lad needs to work hard, get back to what he can clearly do, and be afforded a decent chance to do it without fellas like you on his back.
The Real KB


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:52:42
To Indian Buzzer , who 'wud have no hesitation in firing KK n appointing the special one.'

Please explain to me why you (or anyone who agrees with him) support Liverpool. Im genuinely interested to know .


Everyone knows who the better manager is. Stop kidding yourself, u know the answer as well. Its not abt what KK has done in the past, its abt whether he has the tactical genius too take us to the top again, which i seriously doubt. World class players dream of playin under mourinho, n if u want some class in our team, u have to appoint such managers. I want to see liverpool win trophies, not just hug past glories.
Indian Buzzer {Ed005's Note - We have made massive progress since Dalglish came to the club so he is doing a good job now. And if a player wants to come to the club purely based on who the manager is then I wouldn't want him anyway. Plus, winning trophies takes time - we are in the LC semis, still in the FA Cup so at the moment we are still in with a chance of winning the two realistic trophies we hope for this season. Progress can be made in one season, but things can't be totally turned around in 6months, unless you have City money.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:51:56
Any reason you are not posting my comments ??

Devil Dust. {Ed002's Note - I have not seen any comments from you.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:51:22
The argument that Carroll and Henderson are for the "future" just doesn't cut it for me.

It is necessary to question the premise: did Liverpool need to buy for the "future"?
Before answering the question we should perhaps have regard to a coupla facts.

1. Upon the club being taken over, LFC had been out of the CL for a year, approaching two

2. Many a key player had left (Alonso, Mascherano, Arbeloa) ,or intended leaving (Torres), and eventually left

3. No same calibre replacements were brought in

4. The club was a disjointed mess steadily slipping into the abyss. It's lure was diminishing by each game.
We were a right laughing stock.

5. LFC don't have bottom-less pits of cash

6. Spurs, Arsenal and City were pulling away, at an exponential rate

7. For all the above reasons, it was necessary something drastic be done.
For reasons 1, 4 and 6 in particular, in light of considerations 2, 3 and 5, whatever solution, it had to be immediate.

It was necessary to catch up with Spurs and Arsenal, haul our way back into the CL and restore our lure and confidence in the team.
Our limited funds dictated that prudence and diligence prevail.

Only those players who'd yield immediate results, help haul back Arsenal and Spurs and return to the CL ought to have been bought.
2, 3 year projects at the expense of immediate was unthinkable.

It's been said that Carroll and Henderson are for the "future".
For that reason, the £50m odd the pair cost and for the reasons aforementioned, it was not in our interest to buy Carroll and Henderson.

They won't help the immediate, most important goal: return to CL.
At £35m and £16m, we didn't need potential/3 year project.
We needed immediate impact for an immediate situation.

By the time either of them come good, if ever they do, LFC will down deep in the abyss.

The conclusion is that Carroll and Henderson were unwise buys, regardless of the rationale.

Melville.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:48:31
Kos,
We are still 3 points of fourth and four off third(admittedly spurs got two games on hand.stop whining about our team and kenny,get behind them because these chances created will be capitalised on and we'll be a real force.
Ynwa
Tommo


Its not winging, its simply honesty. the amount of chances created should have netted more than 3 wins and 6 draws. that has to be put right. maybe Podolski is the answer. KOS


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:45:45
Lets compare Hodgson to Dalglish: (Seeing as everyone is saying Kenny is not doing much better)

Hodgson all competitions:

PL - W7 D4 L9 - 25 points from 20 games
EL - W6 D4 L0 - Knockout stage progression vs Sparta Prague
CC - W0 D0 L1 - Knocked out 3rd round vs Northampton (h)
FA - Did not manage any games

Dalglish all competitions:

PL - W18 D10 L8 - 64 points from 36 games
EL - W1 D2 L1 - Knocked out last 16 vs Braga
CC - W4 D0 L0 - Semi finals progression vs Man City
FA - W0 D0 L1 - Knocked out 3rd round vs Man Utd (a)

Now if we were to turn this into points all together from all competitions, it would look like this. This is to give a clearer picture on the difference in how much better we are under Kenny.

KD: P45, W23, D12, L10 - 81 points
RH: P31, W13, D8, L10 - 47 points

So for Hodgson to match up with Kenny, he would need 10 wins, 4 draws and no losses from all competitions. Which isnt gonna happen.

Kenny is far superior and I dont know how the media can say Hodgson isnt that far off.

Cheers, RM


Roy hodgson's level is doing well with unfancied sides. fulham and now west brom.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:39:37
tis is a site were ur allowed to air your views, not like andy carrol r henderson are reading the posts so get a grip all the do gooders, were 6th after having all the easier sides at home . im sure spurs will beat norwich . we all love liverpool n t dont make anyone lesser of a fan for been disgruntled, if u lke henderson n carrol we wont be playing on tues or wednesday next season n thats were liverpool should be at, esp after the money spent,
5gold stars


'Do gooders' ?
Lol. What does that make you then 5gs ?
The Real KB


Doesnt matter what i am thats not the point. we are a hard working team in 6th spot in the league , maybe the "dont knock carroll n henderson cos that makes u a crap fan people" realise that the better
5gold stars


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:32:18
Is it true luuk de jong turned lfc down once?


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:23:43
Genuinely cannot believe some of the criticism of Carroll. Thought he was one of our best players on the night, again we just could not put the ball in the back of the net. We should have scored about 8, beyond a joke how we cannot put our chances away, also if Carroll had Suarez's chances we would have won the game.

We have a much more lethal edge when Carroll is in the starting line-up, if he doesn't get a run in the team now I will be very disappointed.

On a second note, the leader is back....and boy did we miss him against Wigan.

Jatt YNWA


Think you'll find Carroll will be a regular starter now in a more orthidox 4-4-2 to get him match-sharp so that once Suarez's ban kicks in he wont be getting thrown in at the deep end. Once Luis's ban commences expect to see him start alongside Kuyt as a strike-partner. RED LENIN


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:20:01
Damien commoli should be sacked for wasting millions on his rubbish stats.


Many people here who moan about people who moan about moaners (!) say that they are stuck in the past, showing faith in kenny and 'blindly' defending the management team...When in fact it is you the moaners who are stuck in the past, and not accepting that we are not and have not been for years at the very top level of english football.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:16:33
In light of their fortunate fixture list over the festive period, Manchester United have decided to bring out a new biscuit. They will name it the Jammy Dodger.

Rafa's Purple Goatie


And pools fixture list is sooo hard

last 2 games wigan n blackburn 2 points

stop being so pathetic !!

Devil Dust.


Touched a nerve eh?
Twas only a light hearted joke I think...
-DJ-


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:08:27
Watched my first game yesterday in the Kip. WAS AMAZING. Have to say it was quieter than I thought it was goin to be. Some of the fans there just were not singing ,more bothered about slating players. Thought our whole outlook was to support our team! We absolutely battered Blackburn. They did not come to play football. Bit of luck, that's all we need.
Have to say it was amazing though!
Gaz b


The Kop is dead.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 12:08:15
I don't 'belong' to this site, but hey you guys are experts at moaning and slating players and the manager. Liverpool fans are well known for supporting their team through thick and thin. Why the change? Keep the faith. Andy Carroll was bought because he showed some eye for goal at Newcastle and he will surely deliver - remember the price tag is weighing upon his shoulders (just like Torres). Downing provides the required pace upfront, he will come good (look at Theo he has improved)- look at his performances for Aston Villa last year. You are putting too much pressure on the players. Charlie Adam was exceptional for Blackpool and their talisman. Give the players time to adapt to the manager's tactics and the new environment.

Poolgunner


Couldnt agree more poolgunner. unfortunately , the cancer of instant gratification from these spoilt brats is ruining what made this club and its fans special.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 11:40:55
If Chelski have been told they can have Kaka for £22 million,why are we not even considering him?,him and Stevie G competing for the same place would be awesome,also would be able to rest Stevie G a bit more and not be so reliant on him when he's fit


It's a while since we've been reliant on Gerrard mate.
Kaka ? The clue is in the name..
The Real KB


Kenny would prefer zomora because his english and overpriced.


Kaka wouldn't last 10 minutes in the Prem . RED LENIN


Kah Kah Kah

Kaizer


 

 

27 Dec 2011 11:39:45
Gerard was class yesterday hasn't played for ages but ran the game for 20 mins he's bound to be short in the odd tackle due to match fitness but he can spot the right pass uses space well the others need to up their games and have belief roll on Friday


Stevie showed flashes,tad overboard-ran the game


 

 

27 Dec 2011 11:39:35
I can safely say that i was never happy with the appointment of Kenny Daglish. the rule is you NEVER EVER GO BACK. and its been proven yet again. I cant think of anyone, anywhere that its worked. Its a shame that another season is gong to slip by without a real go at the league. what really gets me is the fans that think it will all come good in the end. like some kind of fairy tale. sides no longer fear anfield, they come now thinking we got a chance here. and the real shame is they are right. the results this season at home back that up. cant blame anyone except the manager. his players, his tactics, his team selection. KOS


And play in the championship? Your a joke mate. Do us a favour.

red snake


If you think you can takeover a team in the mess we where in and turn them a title winning team in one season you are living in a dream world. Its your choice if you choose to not to back Kenny and the team. But that whole statement shows you have no understanding of football.

Craig


Kenny is a rubbish manager. As a manager you are judged on results and players you sign. Results are rubbish players he signed cost big money and are rubbish. Adam is crap,Henderson should still be at sunderland thats his level,Carroll should be in the championship, Suarez might be a good player but he wouldnt know where the goal was if you gave him a gps with directions.


Souness, Evans, Houllier and Benitez have all failed to win the title. They all had poor first seasons in charge in the league but were all given the time to build their own teams. Kenny deserves time and he will get it.

A few games ago you said Kenny had 5 games left if not he is out, well guess what he's still here and will be next season. I suggest you get used to it.

JRG


So your happy with 3 wins out of 9. is that acceptable for you lot now.. i guess that is why we are where we are. kos


In fairness Craig he has spent a lot of money and still we look toothless. Gerrard comes on and controls the midfield. That is worrying. He has not played a lot since March. That shows how poor Adam and Henderson are.
Also the team are not going to find any rhythm as he keep changing the team.


Our away form is as good as the sides above us, its our home form is whats going to cost us top4. i know we were never going to challenge the league but if the club is to move forward, champions league is a must. another season without it then we will have to fend off offers for the likes of Pepe and suarez. let alone attract the quality needed to have a real go at the league. 20+ years since we won the title. and that has to be put right. the only way to do that is to finish top 4 this season. the only thing holding the club back now is the home form. were almost at the half way point of the season. the club can still put it right but it will take a monumental effort from here on in.... KOS..


If we are stuck with him till the end of the season then he will need to find a striker that can score goals. there is no doubt we are creating enough chances but with suarez missing 8 games, maybe more if his appeal fails, the goals will have to come from somewhere. i just hope that jan2nd sees the arrival of atleast one if not 2 strikers. bellamy cant play 2 games in a week, and carroll is about as low on confidence as its possible to be. time will tell..KOS


Thats right a few points off 4th and with the business end of the season still to come, get a grip. We are near enough to were we want to be and we are not playing our best football yet. All the best.

KNEE JERK


 

 

27 Dec 2011 11:36:59
Morning all, I hope everyone had a good Xmas.
I didn't get to see the match yesterday. I'd intended watching MoTD but gave it a swerve after another draw.
I heard Kenny's after match interview. It seems to me that he's right enough - we're doing 90% of things well, but the confidence has gone in front of goal.

For a young team, with several new players, it's starting to really affect the lads now. It's so palpable you can feel it. It's transmitted between the crowd and the players. I actually felt this when I was at the Fulham match. It's bound to be even more acute at Anfield.

Utd, give them their due, still have that feeling of arrogance. They feel that they're gonna win. When they are getting off to flyers, scoring after 5 or 10 minutes, it makes all the difference.

So, for me, this transfer window has now become critical for this team of Kenny's. It must be so frustrating for the players, to play well and come away with only a draw or even a defeat.
We need two players minimum - RM / Winger and another striker. At least one of these new lads has to hit the ground running and peg a few goals.
We just need that little kick start, and we'll be off again. It will be very interesting to see how much money will be spent.
But, at the moment, the lads' confidence has taken a battering.
The Real KB


Kenny should be sacked. He has wasted two transfer windows buying crap. Suarez and enrique are the only decent players the rest are crap.


Lets allow kenny to finish the season first before even thinking of sacking him. i think he is doing quite well n needs abit of luck. we are definitely creating chances. its not like we're lost in the middle of the field and dont know what to do.

Kaizer


 

 

27 Dec 2011 11:29:38
Absolutely disgraceful some of the 'fans' on here. Go and support southport. Leave the owners and the king alone. Get behind the players instead of either saying nothing at the games or moaning on here. If you can't see the football being played is probably the best in the league then jog on. He's had less than 12 months to turn this great club around the king is doing a fantastic job. 2 more signings in January and the return of gerrard then the 20 or so chances that are being created will soon start rippling the net. It's in the players heads at the minute that their not scoring. They need supporting not slagging off, something alot of fans (or day-trippers) have forgotten!!!!!!

Djjj


15 points from 27 at home. says it all. not good enough.


After you've been on this site for a while mate, it actually becomes a little bit laughable. I don't know if people have played sport themselves. But, when confidence is low, the last you need is getting slagged off.
Kenny is very protective in the public eye of his players, so it's difficult to get a gist of what he feels. But we do need a 'freshen up' - could be Gerrard back, could be a good win, or a new signing or two, even losing Suarez for a few games is an opportunity.
The Real KB


The results are what a manager is judged on and frankly he should be sacked before he wastes another 50 million on crap.


Yes we're playing the best football in the league untill it gets to sunday league Andy up front who hasn't got a clue and never will.

He is a failed left back and never made it through the Newcastle acadamy as he doesn't possess the basic skills to make it at championship level let alone premiership. Newcastle took a punt on him purely because he litterly grew into his frame over night so they threw him upfront as a last gasp experiment and hasn't that yielded them a nice little return.

We bought into a young player, so supposedly you can assume a significant proportion of the £35 mill tag was made up of 'potential'. What potential? He has no turn of pace, he's a useless target man as he can't shape his body correctly to shield the ball and keep the defender at bay, his movement is nonsensical, he moves towards the player with the ball to recieve when he shouldn't and doesn't fill the hole when he should. His attempts at peeling off defenders are at a youth level as if he's still learning the trick and this is making the players delivering the ball look poor. His aerial ability for a big lads ridiculous (samba won 93% of 50-50's yesterday).

Theres no if's and buts about the Carroll issue, he is just a poor player. In Henderson you can see the quality in glimpses and in no doubt he will be class, Coates potential is clear to see, Kelly class. These young players possess potential, Carroll doesn't and while we're reliant on him upfront it will be a frustrating afternoon all round for the fans.

Ozone


Why dont you go to the worship king kenny site then mate. He will be sacked just wait and see as Henry said top 4 nothing else matters.


If we dont make top4 this season, KK has to go. Some of his purchases like downing, carrol, adam have been garbage. Enrique n bellamy were his only two good signings. Suarez n coates were commoli's doing.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

27 Dec 2011 11:25:09
some people on this site make me lauph a few bad results and the knives come out banners are made and protests begin why dont yous all just take a deep breath and relax were creating chances but not finishing them were not scoring enough goals and kenny isnt picking the best eleven and were giving relegation teams chances to stay up and not good enough at this point i think we need to be patient we have been really unlucky and poor infront of goal but for every one calling for kk head is laughable were turning into evertonions bitter i no we should have a lot more points but we havnt and am as angry as every one with the results but lets not start the whos going to be next manager and we want the owners out carry on as other people who come on this site must laugh there heads of lets get behind the team manager owners trainers every one to do with the club hederson will be a very good player adam good squad player carroll will ether come good our be sold my opinion is hes not right for liverpool and were not far of fourth not that were that good i think chelsea arsenal are not better than us at this momment so lets be get behind the team and just see were we are at the end of the season then we can judge true red


The table says they are. thats all that counts. points


Your one-line criticisms are clever mister no name. Have you got a one-line alternative answer ?
The Real KB


Is it 3 points away from 4th, yes dead and buried. all the best.

KNEE JERK


So kb does that stand for Kevin Bacon because you would play the sleepers role perfectly


Somebody's got a new phone or Ipad for Xmas I see eh ?
Testing it out on here. We expect a little more than one line nonsense on this page mate, and a little humour would not go amiss too. I think you should do one back to your twitter account.
The Real KB


 

 

27 Dec 2011 11:24:25
Some of the "way out there fans" with there knee jerk views Must be Lonely. Because they must of
"Divorced the wife for cooking the there tea wrong one day". "put the kids in care for once having a untidy bedroom"


It's not knew jerk, this is not the first poor result and I can garentee it won't be the last!!


He is the worst manager for years


I see the mancs, trolls and bitters are out in force today. Get a grip and behave your selves. Some of the comments are so pathetic that they could never have come from actually LFC supporters. Caroll is a problem at the moment, but it'll work out one way or another. The other new players are not 'crap', they're human. We simply need a bit of luck and visiting goalies not playing out of their skins. Stay cool.
ND


ND best post of the day. Most of this must be a wind up. No real LFC fan wants to see kk out


 

 

27 Dec 2011 11:23:19
Some people on here need to get a grip! Least the likes of RedTurk are consistant in moaning. But all these knee jerks, are the same poster that said after we beat Chelsea said that the title is ours. Get a grip! Changing sands, knee jerk " fans ", all the best.

KNEE JERK


 

 

27 Dec 2011 11:11:49
Can people slating Andy Carroll just think for a moment, do you know how hard it is to get any momentum on a cross if it is floated in.. Not to mention it gives the opposition time to get into position....

Sorry for mentioning them but! Watching united on MOTD most of their crosses are driven In meaning a header can have alot more sting in it....

Just an opinion

Southern Red


Andy Carroll is in no way good enough to play for Liverpool.

Steve


True! But did you notice how much more purpose the ball had to it, when Stevie g whipped in that free kick when he came. Those are the ball Andy needs, balls he can attack. All the best.

KNEE JERK


Samba won 92% of the aerial 50-50's with Carroll yesterday. You could bring in Mr Whippy to put the right crosses in for 90 mins and Carroll still wouldn't get on the end of them as he has no positional sense or turn of pace to transfer the whipped cross into a snapp header with force. Dead duck, never going to work and the sooner the do gooders with their 'we don't want moaners on here etc. etc.', get used to it the better.

Ozone


Ozone, is that you then ? Washed your hands of him ?
The Real KB


Ozone you have no clue about football.

KNEE JERK


Youve hit the nail on the head. every Man Utd side has had two wingers . thats all they practise is crosses even full backs . whisky nose plays the percentages . Man Utd have the most crosses in premier league every season . indeed beckhams average per game was 28 . thats why they flatten the lesser teams we have to wise up and copy play percentages


 

 

27 dec 2011 11:08:30
i bet any money the henderson/downing/carroll haters are the same ones who nearly hounded lucas "badly missed" out of the club. these kind of "fans" put you off the game.


Footballs opinions or do you want north korea esque footy views?regardless of opposing views,sickve childish,nan=me calling.or you aint a red etc


 

 

27 Dec 2011 10:47:40
its sooo aparent that hendersson n carrol are not lfc players (50mill). is he playing them cos he spent so much on them?? its a results business n thats how your measured on the results, ive shelled out alot of money to see lfc this season so i can feel free to voice what i want, kenny needs to get his act together he has wasted alot of money , i love kenny but he is not picking his best 11 . we need clinical players with pace n craft, hard work only gets u so far in every walk of life, over prced british players hes purchased . no way henderson n caroll would get into any other top sides, top 4 is a huge ask now
5gold stars


Henderson has been one of the best players on the pitch for the last few games. you're talking s**te mate


How the Hell can you Blame Henderson a "Midfielder" . he's been played out of position half the time and playing a defensive role the other half. Glory Hunter!! Not blaming Suarez for only hitting the target with 20% of shots What a Muppet go support Man City!!


He aint done anything , hes a midfielder he should be able to play def midfield or on the right for 20million. he wouldnt get into the other sides fact!!!!!!!! now go to the playground n call names !!!!!
5gold stars


Could scott parker play on the left wing. could nani play as a dm. no. and they are both the finished article. Henderson is still learning his game. He wont be the finished article till he hits his mid 20s,


5gold Stars, grow up!
JayB


Look Deep into your Soul My Friend and be true to yourself!! Was you a Lucas persecutor many months ago but Now have his Name on the back of your shirt??? I'm Not Bet Fred but 1-10 on you were!!!


I really don't see how Kenny has wasted money. I remember the owners mentioning they wanted players with resale value, so if we look at it like that, I have no doubts that in 5 years, with regular football at a big club like ours, we'd get more than our money back if we sold Hendo. Big Andy's a bit different in that we were hamstrung by the timing of the torres transfer and our other targets being unavailable, AND newcastle ripping us off a lil, but after all that I again have no doubt that AC will be a far better player if/when he leaves Liverpool than he was when he signed.

Certain fan's unreasonable short-term goals are obviously clashing with the long-term aims of our owners and management, which is why you get them all on here bleating about "why aren't we top 4 right now?? Why, despite hardly losing all season and playing some great football, are we so terrible blah blah blah".

Rugby Parker


Henderson is a quality, all-round, versatile young player. Who, if he's left to get on with his game, will go on to captain LFC in the future.
The Real KB


Ya! Iniestas Often played sat just in front of the Back Four At Barcelona!!! But only when Messi's in Goal!!


Hes not good enough for liverpool for fcks sake , its simple as that.20million he was, dont blame the lad for playing when he is picked .when gerard is fully fit who makes way!!! let me tell you ....... henderson n bellamy for carrol n we will get goals n results!!!!
5 gold stars


 

 

27 Dec 2011 10:40:57
Interesting to note that, for the £80m blown on Carroll, Adam, Downing and Henderson, Moussa Sissoko, Juan Mata, Keisuke Honda and Alan Dzagoev could've been bought.

At one point or another, the latter four were very much possibilities.
At half the price but thrice the ability and productivity, Honda, NOT Carroll, should of been our man in Jan.
He's very versatile and would of done a good job upfront alongside Suarez.

For the summer, Sissoko, Dzagoev and Mata would of significantly improved our lot.
They'd of been super value-for-money, at much lesser prices, better still.

That's the basis of my criticism of Dalglish.
At those prices, Carroll, Adam, Downing and Henderson were never going to be value for money.
Their contribution was always going to be negatively disproportionate to their cost.

Better options existed and should of been sort.

Going to the Jan window, I believe there's a need for at least two nifty additions (Dzagoev & Soldado/Podolski my choices), but I'm not sure if Dalglish should be trusted with spending our dough anymore.
Too many cock-ups.

Melville
ps: Ed002, heard anything in particular about Sow? {Ed002's Note - He is a possibility.}


Melville, maybe the owners have read this and will replace Kenny with yourself. Your're a genius mate


Gr8 post
5 gold stars


You all know the story. clubs always pay over the odds for british players. remember robbie keane. 6 months and flogged on. i cant see them selling carroll in this window but i can see him used in a deal for another striker. kos


With the exception of Andy Carroll, the other options you mentioned would all have been more expensive than the players we bought. Sissoko would be close to double what Adam cost with higher wages thrown in, Juan Mata went for more than Downing and again almost certainly on higher wages, and trying to sign both Honda and Dzagoev from CSKA would have pushed the price of both players up, making Dzagoev more expensive than Hendo.

Far too many people on here suffering from "big-pictureitis", things don't go perfectly immediately and it's a clamour to change everything.

Rugby Parker


Maybe those players didn't want to join our club!! Maybe they wanted Champions League football or higher wages... How can people say we should've bought this and that player, its very childish to say such a thing, its not fantasy football, I'm sure we made enquiries for some of these players but the players chose different clubs, simple, we can only get players that are willing to come and without Champions League football its harder to get some players to come to us... We're still in a good position to get in the top 4 for next season so we'll see what happens in January


What utter rubbish. You have no knowledge whatsoever that the players mentioned would have been better than the players here. They might not adapt to the PL, the physical attributes required, they might not like the weather, they might be injury prone. It's bordering on childishness just to pluck players out of the air & think that they will be better than what we've got. No basis at all. You think that you are the manager with all the experience & scouting staff? You're not!

The Irish Rover


Mata was terrible against us at Stamford bridge. Which by the Law of "Kneejerkism" you would of sold him by now for having a bad game!! It only makes Sense???


 

 

27 Dec 2011 10:15:46
People on here yesterday went OTT. Ok not a great reult but another point in the bag. For KK to get the complete squad he wants i would say its going to take 5 or 6 transfer windows not one or two. So lets get behind the club. KK is doing an amazing job lets give him a bit more support.

Mighty reds


Played: 9
Won: 3
Drawn: 6
Lost: 0
Goals for: 11
Against: 7

this is far from amazing. this is average. the sooner daglish is gone the better. kos


Get a grip hes spent 60mill in adam carrol n henderson. 60mill that he may aswell have set on fire. look at newcastle they have ba up front n he cost 7mill. they are laughing at us . i bet if he had that 60mill back he wouldnt buy them again. we wont be top 4 sadly n unless the americans fancy giving him another 60mill in jan we will struggle ,
5gold stars


Disgusting that "KOS" can even call himself a LFC fan.


What, the facts are right there infront of you. are you amazed with 3 home wins and 6 draws? grow up you child.... great players rarely make great managers. KOS


Im guessing KOS wasnt around in the late eighties?


I was around for the late 70s aswell as the 80s. i guess most of you think 3 home wins for liverpool is acceptable these days. well not me. this level of sloppy finishing is not good enough. kos


5 r 6 windows? Is he going to change the team everytime in the hope of getting it rite ? KK being found out - the toys outa the pram shortly and off he goes - it's in his DNA lol


Seriously if you were john henry would you give comolli and kenny another 60 mill in january. I know i wouldn't.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 10:06:39
HEY LFC FANS...

now REMEMBER i am a huge fan...but i wanna rant...so allow me eds....

last 3 managers.............same weaknesses!..

1 we are complacent
2 no killer instinct
3 no fear factor at the club

my point is...everyone is saying ohh we are playing really well bla bla...but we are in 6th position!! so all that tells me is the players we bought..(all from teams finishing lower than us in our worst season last yr....bar suarez) have reached their peak and kk has got the best out of them..

now WHYYYYYYYYYY dont we buy BETTER players with pace..and technical ability..and maybe kk can take them to 1st position.

in my opinion we are so far from the top 4 teams its so painful to see in the course of a football season....and the most annoying thing is.........every liverpool fan could write on a board exactly how to change things...and i bet 90% of the results will be the same opinion............yet season after season...same average players same average results...beat a few top teams...then draw 12 games against bottom teams..

its really disheartening to see players coming in eahc year and not embracing the old ways of 2nd place being unacceptable..i know times have changed but i really love those videos of shankly talking about invincibility..i wish we had a fear factor at the club


You say we are so far from a top 4 team, yet depending on the Arsenal result today, it will either be 3 or 4 points.

Doesn't look to far for me, especially with Stevie back and the transfer window opening.

Grios up, support the team rather and maybe you will see their confidence improve. You can visibly see the team drain after a couple of missed chances when all you get from the crowd are groans (especially after long periods of silence.

For gods sake get behind the team and act like the 12th man again.


But were still only 3 points off 4th maybe 4points if arsenal win

big red john


Boo hoo


You do know at maximum by the end of the day we'll only be 4 points off the 4th place spot. With good signing in January and just a tad bit of finishing improvement, we should get there.

Renegadered


Dont get me wrong..i do agree with you...its just disheartening at times because i think my hopes for liverpool are either too much and the way the team looks i just think we are far behind the others...i think we are coasting in a straight line..while others while just surpass us like spurs and arsenal and cfc

their teams are better than us NOW........they WILL ADD AGAIN......so where do u think that leaves us.?? come on be honest? {Ed002's Note -


Arsenal and Chelsea have had their worst start in years! We are still behind them, Toon are 1 point behind us. No matter how you look at it the business conducted in the summer was ineffectual. The style of football has improved under Kenny the impact has not! Spurs play pretty and effective football.

My concerns are growing as the owners dont have a clue about football(they have said so themselves) and we need someone to stop decisions like £35m for Carroll, the clubs all time record signing who has had zero impact.

The only defence ive heard is he has potential and his wages are low! If that is how the club is to be run we are in for a bleak decade.

I stated during the takeover that I didnt like rich sugar daddies taking over the club. However the LFC project needs massive financial clout behind it as our problems are multi dimensional.The owners concern me as all I hear is reduction of wage bill buying players for the future or working on stop gap solutions to the stadium.

Ed 02 has said we will not spend big until we secure Champions League football, and I think he is correct, however without a further splurge we cannot hope to get 4th! Failure to do so this year sets us further back again.

We are still walking through a dark storm I fear things are set to get alot worse!

Sorry for the negativity.

Dont Buy The Sun {Ed002's Note - I don't think the responsibility for spending £35M plus VAT, plus agents fees plus VAT on agents fees on Andy Carroll can be laid at the door of the owners.}


I think i'm right in saying the only team above us to beat us this season is Spurs, and that game was a bit of a right-off with no right back and 2 players sent off, AND we're only a handful of points off Champions League places, so I don't think we're too far behind the top 4.

In my opinion, it stands to reason we'll be better in the 2nd half of the season than the 1st. There's been an incredible amount of change at the club, everyone (not just the new signings) will invariably need time to adjust, so just try to relax and enjoy the very entertaining brand of football we play in pretty much every game i've seen this season.

Rugby Parker


Ed 02 I agree that the owners did not decide on Carroll the point is they have no checks and balance against the stupidity of that decision, and Kenny cant hide from that decision! You said that deal raised your eyebrows well MINE TOO! Im not a football manager but with my tiny ammount of knowledge I knew it was insanity! So our owners need to get serious If they dont have money to burn then they must improve the decision making process.

Dont Buy The Sun {Ed002's Note - They have checks and balances inasmuch as the decision to buy a player comes from the management team, although Dalglish can I understand override matters. Comolli is the Director of Football and is there to advise the owners.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 08:50:53

Another home match and another draw with the opposition keeper leaving with the man of the match award. This story is becoming so familiar this season and doesn't get any less frustrating. It's becoming sickening to see us dominate possession, create so many goal scoring opportunities and restrict the opposition to so few chances in almost every game and yet we only come away draw. There was also the customary bad refereeing decision when Maxi was brought down for a penalty but was wrongly flagged off-side, although with our luck this season from the spot it was probably better it was not given.

I thought Andy Carroll had a decent game yesterday. We have been calling out for someone to get on the end of things in the box and I thought he done that. The keeper pulled off two fantastic saves from him and he put one difficult header just wide with the keeper stranded. It really annoys me to see him getting so much criticism from the usual people on here while other players seem immune to criticism.

In my opinion Suarez did not play well yesterday and has not for a few games now. He is giving away possession regularly and did not test the keeper with any of his shots, at least Carroll forced some good saves. Suarez often shoots. often from impossible angles, or tries to take a defender on when a Liverpool player is in a better position. If Carroll had missed the chances that Suarez missed yesterday, or given the ball away as regularly, he would have been crucified on here. It is interesting that Suarez, quite rightly, gets the full backing of almost every fan on here when he is going through a self-made bad patch of the pitch and yet Carroll gets slaughtered because he is not performing to standard that some people think is acceptable. We should back all our players regardless of their level or performances.

I am not suggesting people start on Suarez but just to judge players performances equally and fairly. It is clear that Carroll is not performing at the level we need or expect on a regular basis but when he does put in a decent performance as he did yesterday, lets not get on his back.

JRG


Totally agree JRG. Suarez seems to want to turn a player inside out before releasing the ball. He beats his player then goes back to beat him again. Maybe sometimes lifting his head to pick out a player.

I sometimes think I watch a different game to some posters. They come on here & slate the whole team. " We need at least 3 midfielders" " Downing was awful" " Maxi wouldn't get in a top 6 team" blah blah blah. I go & look at the stats, the shots, the possesion & think how can we dominate teams with so many bad players?We need someone to put the ball in the net! That's it! There's nothing much wrong with anything else. It's not as if our midfield is getting over run or our defence is overworked. It's not! We are creating in most games enough chances to win 3 games never mind one. Listen, I'm as frustrated as anyone because I can see how good we are playing. Better than for possibly 10 years. We are so close, yet I fear if the fans don't get behind the team & let KK, Clarke & Commoli sort out a few problems then it will be all to no avail. You can already see it at Anfield. The crowd dond support like they used too. They're apprehensive & it filters onto the pitch.

Maybe if we can keep Gerrard fit it might change things. Maybe Suarez can get onto the end of some of his thru balls & just concentrate on hitting the target. Maybe Carroll can get on the end of Gerrards corners & free kicks. We have come on leaps & bounds in less than a year. Surely more people can see that than the few of us on this site?

The Irish Rover


Thats a fair point.
I think Caroll plays quite well considering he hasnt had a run of games and also that the style we play isnt conducive of his strengths. I would like to see some good crosses which he can attack. Is this his fault or downings and kuyts?

Re. Suarez, i still see him as a second striker. Suarez will make a lot of opportunites but will also miss a lot so i think we need a robbie fowler type predator. The problem is there arent many about.


ADAM MORGAN. End of
kopfiend 1978


 

 

27 Dec 2011 08:39:14
I really don't understand why some people would want the King sacked. Our team is playing fu*king fantastic. When i watch Liverpool play i am not bored for one minute, they play at a great tempo and produce a lot of chances. To those who want the King sacked why don't you have a look at the match statistics from the matches Liverpool have played, we have demolished every team in possession and every other stat. I agree that the most important statistic is "goals scored", but I'm sure if the team keeps performing like this the flood gates will eventually open, and then we will be unstoppable.

Walk On
YNWA


 

 

27 Dec 2011 08:33:04
Hey eds and Macca, can you give me a update on what players we are currently interessted in and if theres any realistic targets for the january transfer window? Since Liverpool are struggeling to score goals its naturally that we are beeing linked with "big name" strikers, but how realistic is it that thoose players wants to play for a club that isnt in the champions league and maby wont be next year either?

Also wondering if you guys think Liverpool will spend some money at all on transfers in january?

Just tired of reading us beeing linked with players that would cost 40 million £ and would have weekly wages thats over 200.000 £, when everybody over 12 years knows thats just not gonna happend.

Btw you are all doing a great job and i hope all of you had a fine christmas :) {Ed002's Note - We get asked this same question dozens of times a day but you need to keep up and read the posts. What information we have is shared.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 08:00:42
DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER-
Eds and fellow fans. I know people are making up transfer names in hope but I have it on good authority that Liverpool fans are going to start singing and backing the team in 2012.... Now i know it sounds far fetched but there could be some truth to it. In fact i'll go as far to say my SOURCE is going to start a song.

Taffytel


Fans react to what the players do on the pitch, and henderson, adam , carol etc do not inspire the majority of the fans.red mick tag


 

 

27 Dec 2011 07:37:24
The Gaston Ramirez link might be true but the twitter trail seems bogus.BBC Sports Agent? Fake. Anyone have anything more substantial than a retweeted, retweet, from a fake tweet?


 

 

27 Dec 2011 06:49:28
27 Dec 2011 00:49:12
A source on twitter who I regard as very reliable says we are pushing for gaston ramirez. The deal was being wrapped up for the summer however LFC are trying to get it doen this january. If that deal were to fail he says, podolski is a backup option.

The podolski backup does seem weird to me personally, because podolski is mainly a striker/winger, and gaston ramirez is an attacking midfielder as far as I know..

The guy on twitter also states LFC will not knee jerk buy a striker, if they are buying one it is a considered purchase.

He's been spot on last januari and summer so gaston ramirez looks to be on his way to becoming an LFC player sooner rather than later!

JanBorman

***

Miguel Castro on twitter your source?

red snake


 

 

27 Dec 2011 05:32:29
All this talk of what manager is wanted to replace Kenny... What player should be replacing this player... Who's poor and who's not... who's a bad buy and who is not is doin my nut.
It creases me to say it but we have some pr*cks supporting our club nowadays.
Kenny has dragged us up off the floor. We should hold our heads up as proud as he does when talking about our club. Not look at other managers coming in.
The likes of henderson, adam, downing and carrol being hounded out by our own "fans" is pathetic. The same fans were wishing Lucas, Maxi, Skrtel and Johnson etc were gone 12 months ago.
I'd like to remind them fans that were well within our target this season, yet we haven't once got out of third gear. The potential we have is obvious.
Kenny has us play football again. Dominating teams. Defending well. Passing the ball. Playing with pace. Playing with passion and commitment we haven't seen for a while.
These lads that are being hounded (including Kenny) have brought back honour to the club. Yes, we could be doing better. Yes, individually, they could be playing better. But that just proves how far we've come. The team is coming together - no question. The new lads (in my opinion) have been excellent. Why? Because they have done everything with a little bit of class - the Liverpool way.
Haven't to go through the season mostly with out Gerrard and Carra (which in recent years would have been unthinkable). Dealing with the other injuries within the team. The Suarez situation. The fact were not converting our chances (which the team as a whole should be looking at them selves - and will be). The fact that we know some players haven't hit top form yet. I think we're doing alright.
This whole luck think (hit the post X amount of times... ref's not going way.... etc) I don't buy. At home we simply haven't got the confidence we should have. This is because these so called fans have created undue pressure. The atmosphere is snide. The players already know the pressure of playing for Liverpool FC. But to be ridiculed by there own fans - whilst playing for them - is not something they should have to deal with. It never used to be the liverpool way either. But, it seems to be getting worse. The Lucas situation should have been proof to these idiots that players need us behind them.
The days when the Kop would be worth 1 goal a game has long gone. In FACT it's now swung the other way.
I wish these fans would do one and "support" someone else.

Keep it going Kenny.

Shmickles


I agree totally with you shmickles, I was at the game yesterday and the BS from the "been there seen that super fans" was a bit embarrassing.
It was a disappointing game with no one achieving an acceptable standard but Kenny is building a team. With a few tweaks, i.e. Steve G returning maybe a signing or two we will turn this around.


Shmickles, we can pass the ball as much as we like, dominate possession as much as we like, play with as much passion as we like, none of that in the end makes the slightest difference if the results arent happening. Fact is we drew to the last place team in the competition. there is nothing at all to be proud of here. We simply arent as good as some fans would have the rest of us believe. We are in 6th place because thats about where this team is at the moment. Fact is we are an average team full of average players, with a few exceptions. Fact is out team needs new players ASAP or CL football will remain just a dream for us all. The longer we are out of the CL, the longer and harder it will be to get back to it. Fact is we are no longer a top 4 club. The sooner everyone realises this the better for us all.

Steve


 

 

27 Dec 2011 02:33:26
Only 3 losses out of 18 games, 20 games yet to play before the end of the season. It's those 7 draws so far, that are hurting us. Reminds me of 2008/2009 when we lost only 2 games all season and still finished only 2nd.
But we'll make 4th this year for sure. We have less losses than Arsenal & Chelsea, and a January window that will bring in some new legs and creativity.
Keep the faith and hold those knees from jerking so often and so fast. ;-) . YNWA ra1969@usa.com


Other thing about those 3 losses are stoke and Fulham could have been avoided if the many chances were converted!
Lfcmatt


We may have less losses but Arsenal and chelsea also have more wins than us


 

 

27 Dec 2011 02:09:20
I think we can all see that English men are not the way forward for our club (going forward). It is rare to find a skillful, tricky english man who plays similar to a brazilian /spanish player and that is the type of player we desperatley need (along with someone who is caple of finding the net). i feel we have over paid on all the English men we signed this year as they are yet to score more than a few between them and have like 1 assist (henderson, downing, carroll), if we are going to inject some life and quality into our team we really need to move abroad. I know many of you seem to think that every single small sized foreigner will just be shoved off the ball and fail in this physical league, but there are many examples of smaller players who are capable of dominating some of these defenders. So please in a few days i want to be seeing us linked with a couple of classy foreigners not all these boring english players playing for midtable/relegation candidate teams.

Freddy


 

 

27 Dec 2011 01:51:54
All this 'support the team or jog on' nonsense.

I support the team while im at the game, praise the players and get behind the team as we do as Liverpool fans (although the atmosphere at Anfield at the moment is shocking).

I come on here to express an opinion on a so called banter page but get told to 'jog on' when my opinions negative towards a player. Im convinced half of these do gooders with their 'go and support someone else' nonsense don't actually go the games or they'd be as angry as I am about certain players.

Ozone


Exactly we back and support them at the game(us that go on here Ozone)But on a forumn are we to be blind to our defeciances,to please the"were great/regardless mercants?Mr.Whinge {Ed001's Note - what we expect is for people like Ozone to actually not lie about players and make up deficiencies based on complete fabrications. He clearly never even watched the match, yet is trying to act like he knows what went wrong. If your assessments were honest, you wouldn't get the stick you get Ozone, but you have nothing but whinges and whines based on your complete lack of knowledge of anything that took place yesterday.}


 

 

27 Dec 2011 01:40:41
Any interest in kaka, if he is a available for a cut price deal like the rumours have been going around(22mil) ?


The wages these type of players are on will just ruin ya club


 

 

27 Dec 2011 01:37:18
Not so much a rumour more of a pondering.

Does anyone else think that Rafa would have done a better job with the cash given to him under FSG that Kenny.

Love kenny and support him totally but i still think Benitez was a class act at big money buys.


Reded


Rafa cud have attracted some very good spanish players to the club like mata, llorente.... As spanish players r the best in the world, we wud be higher up the table.
Indian Buzzer


@Indian Buzzer
There is no guarantee, whatsoever, that whichever players Rafa would have bought would have placed us in the higher league placings right now. That is just pure speculations. Rafa also made horrible signings in his time so don't come here spreading speculative myths.
Besides, Rafa favours shyte football that lulls people to sleep, so give us a break with this Rafa bullshyte.

BooDaBooze


Where is the guarantee that the spanish players would have clicked instantly in the epl, indian buzzer?
Alonso did not hit the ground running, did he? It took time before he got going.

BooDaBooze


Mata didnt need time to adjust. I doubt llorente wud need time either, he is a typical english-style forward. Plus, spanish players r known to be more skillful than british players. Its abt quality, which unfortunately most of our players do not have.
Indian Buzzer


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:59:20
i have been reading about the rumours,i will love to see striking trio of pato,suarez and podolski and sign Eriksen ozil and get kenny to bring junior hoilett in.

we were at the ajax game when the fan attacked the gk which was hilarious but im telling you that vertonghen is some player.

Hope my dreams come true kenny...

cal the boy


Pato, podolski, eriksen, ozil, hoillett?? haha god damn your optimistic, never going to happen with any of them i suspect. Hoilett an outside chance the rest no chance (although Podolski situation could change).

I would love Pato but i'd forget about it, the sort of player who we would never sign


Why would we want Vertonghen, anyway? Do we need him? Where would we play him? What we don't need right now is another CB.

BooDaBooze


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:59:08
I just wanted to say, it's feels so great to have Steven Gerrard back in action.
And relax guys, we are not far off our aim, some ridiculous posts about sacking the King.
It's NEVER over until the fat lady sings (and I hear no singing Just yet)

LFC 2929


I'd love Charlie to do what he did yesterday but in the oppositions box. He was absolutely nowhere. C'mon lads please do it. We need to win some games now.


Hark, whats that yonder I hear?


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:45:54
gk reina
rb kelly
cb vertonghen
cb agger
lb enrique
cm adam
cm ozil
cm eriksen
rw suarez
lw podolski
st pato

if all of the rumours are true how good would this team look, get the cheque book out kenny and after that bring the kids through.

bring these kids through

suso
sterling
wisdom
mendy
coady
amoo
and get pacheco back he is brilliant he is on my kit god dam it

love and peace charlie


As if ozil, eriksen or pato would come to the 6th best team in the EPL


Mate this will look great


So ur mid is all attaking mids. Defence wud be left open lool


Would rathe have Lucas there than Adam. and it'll be a very very good squad. But this can only be a dream. Hope, w are getting back on winning way. It really has started to frustrate us, now.


Theres not a bottomless pit,how much would that lot cost,plus wages


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:39:34
I thought Carroll did okay, but something he did in the 78th minute that made me really mad. Gerrard puts a ball in to him. He misses the ball and fails to notice Downing ready to receive the ball and put it in for another go. But no, Carroll just gave up there. I think that just sums up his attitude. Anyway, Skrtel has 2 goals and 1 assist. Downing has none of either

Keith YNWA {Ed005's Note - Does that make Suarez's attitude 10times worse? He often fails to acknowledge a pass would be a far better option than a shot but shoots anyway.}


To be fair strikers need confidence andy carroll is suffering a lack of it at the moment it doesent make him a bad player and he will come good and start scoring goals


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:37:26
We need to invest in a goalscorer! my choices would be Demba Ba, Darren Bent or Gabi Agbonlahor. Do u think we will sign another striker and if so who? thanks.


Could always pay 35m to newcastle for demba ba


Atleast its worth it...........


Yes they got ba on a free, unreal,just goes to show ya just got to look in the right place


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:32:39
If it wasn't for 2 blatantly world class saves, carrol would have netted us 6 points this season and we would be in the top 3. Im sure we wouldn't be having a go at him then. He will come good if he gets a run of games and builds up his confidence.


Agree 100%. However i feel he is missing game time and at the moment he will not get it with us even if suarez gets 8 game ban. He should definitelt go on loan with a caveat that he plays every game. Sunderland, Wigan, Bolton, Villa to name a few are crying out for a striker. Let the boy get his confidence back as long as he keeps to the fitness program he been working on. He could take points off all teams around us,

Taffytel


Could,would,nearly,bet Mancs p ss themselves at this


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:12:33
if Mourinho became Liverpool manager , I wouldnt watch or support them anymore. Supporting Liverpool goes beyond football. Its also about pride , dignity , honour , class, humility...qualities 'the special one' will never possess.


It used to be about success until about 20 years ago


Too be honest our football would be a lot better, we'd be winning and would actually be in top 4 instead of this dillutional thinking of support the team and everything will be ok, we just drew to bottom of the league can't win s**t Blackburn, wake up!!!


Wake up mate. This is 2012 now, not the 1980's. Pride, passion, dignity..... all have taken a backseat. Its about money n success. If u dont have either, ur a goner. Mourinho is the best tactician in the world at this point of time, n i wud have no hesitation in firing KK n appointing the special one. Plus, mourinho wud be able to attract top class players to the club, whether we have champions league football or not.
Indian Buzzer


You do realise that LFC turned down Jose for Rafa? That's why he will not manage LFC until he gets over the slight.


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:08:33
I have had time to collect my thoughts before verbally bashing my......OUR beloved reds team and have decided to make some comments on here after reading everyones comments (or some people will call verbal diarrhea). Now dont get me wrong I am not all positive about what I have to say I just need to get some things of my chest and I hope I dont get abuse as you guys are the only ones probably will listen as my wife doesnt give a sh@t lol. But feel free to just skip this long boring post as most of you will think its utter nonsense any way....I just need to vent and as I type further on it wont make any sense and I wont remember what the hell I came on here to say any way lol sorry...

Everyone that has been bashing slating Carrol and Downing after yesterdays performance are wrong too and before you switch off I am not a Carrol believer. I think they both played well for what they did. However, I still beleive that they are not Liverpool players and we will see they will get less playing time as season goes on unless they amazingly improve vastily. Carrol was not at fault that Liverpools final ball was poor or didnt come quick enough so he could out jump the many defenders who beat him to the ball in the 1st half. What he did was chase and work hard and was unlucky not to score, however I think he impedes the way Liverpool want to play and thats becuase of his ability....but we should not slag him for his effort yesterday. Downing had a good game I thought and what let him down was his final ball and shooting (as usual). I think some of you are judging him only on his final ball and shooting and not looking at his work rate and ability to get into a position to give a final ball. He has had worse games but another player here who played well.
I think we should look at the fact we came out (yet again) against a team we should be beating easily and playing slow dreary football and letting them have time to regroup get back in numbers to defend. We never do this against the bigger teams and we go for the jugular and attack, hence why we score. We started to slow and indeed we had chances to score but this is the year we cant put the ball back into the net but everything was to slow untill it was too late when they scored. We came out playing fast football second half but ran out of steam and ran into another sublime performance by a stand in goal keeper.
As much as it hurts to say Suarez is at fault for a lot of our games this year with his inability to score. As amazing he is creating them he wastes a lot and I think his virus has spread amongst the team.
The inability to score...... I do think however this would change if the management would find the ability to motivate our players before starting the game and we go for the win instead of just stroking the ball around slowly and see if we can create a space. We always start slow against smaller teams hence why we have failed to beat them this year and only start really dominating when we realise we have little time to score.
Adam should not be slated as he is a good player but had 2 bad games. These things happen...... he is after all playing in Lucases role and this would have affected his gameplay. Hendo is still too young and I think every one is thinking he should be the finished article but he is only just beginning his career lets give some time, at least he can run pass control the ball unlike Carrol. Hendo will be good.
It was good to see Stevie G come out and he looks class.
The way forward......dont panic buy a striker that scores loads in another league (Holland) as that means didly squat in ours. The next striker must be able to control the ball be comfurtable (spelling) on the ball has the ability to score and set up play and be powerful.....who that is I dont know (opposite to Carrol) but I hope our scouts are working over time. I dont think we will find the answer this transfer window as one player wont all of a sudden make us score. There is something not right at our club that is affecting our play to score. This is why I would just give Morgan a chance and say have a go son see if you are the missing link...... Fowler and Owen took their chance lets see if you can.
Bellamy should start more often but I think he will when Suarezs ban starts, which I think will be only 4 games. I think he got 8 in knowing we will appeal and hopefully the ban will be halfed.
I have run out of steam now and have no more desire to vent even though I could write on but there is enough drivel here, I do apologise but its things going around my mad head.....
Oh there is one thing I would like to change at our club...and get rid of all those boring non singing fans currently there. I am unfortunate that I am living abroad now but I remember when I used to go every game there was never any quiet match days...but Anfield is silent unless we score now adays what is wrong with you supporters....dont you realise you are the 12th man you are part of the team. ANd you season ticket holders...shame on you for giving your tickets away for one but shame on you that you dont give it away on the condition that that person will sing his heart out even when we are not winning..... that ticket you have is someones dream....someone somewhere is dreaming of going to Anfield and watching their club players play and you give it to someone that doesnt understand that we are the 12th man...shame on you

Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedy


Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all Lee YNWA


Rubbish!


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:07:01
Just a quick thought, the one thing that makes this club special is the holy trinity as shanks described it between the manager, players and fans. let's remember none of us walk alone, get behind the team and KK, and let's not forget the families and friends of the 96 and their suffering at this time.of year, our thoughts are with them, keep up the Faith for the team, and the fight for justice. Walk on with dignity, remember we are Liverpool, best fans and city in the world


The fans are taken for granted by lfc , they do not respect us.


Sadly true,ticket allocating/respect for people paying near 800 quid,null and void by club.Look at Athens!Speedy and like aint always privvy to how were s it on.As they dont go(with respect.as knpw they want to)


 

 

26 Dec 2011 23:54:45
{Ed001's Note - you clearly have made your decision and are refusing to do anything other than whinge then. Because it was simple to watch the game and see him chasing back and working hard, it did leave him out of position to receive forward passes at times, but you can't be everywhere at once. He needs better and more consistent crosses into the box, ones that he can attack, rather than balls that are lumped up to him and force him to make a standing jump against a defender who is able to run and head it clear. I suppose you are under the impression that he is some kind of superman who has to win every ball in the air and fails to take into account how bad the ball is? What Carroll needs is confidence, it is clearly low.}

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I totally disagree Ed, he is in fact making the players putting in the deliveries look bad with his nonsensical movement. He doesn't know what he is doing. He should be getting the movement right in the box in order to enable a run on the defender but he can't do it as he has no turn of pace. Its an easy afternoons work for a centre half. He has no qualities whatsoever suited to the way we play. He should be sent on a free to Stoke. CHASING BACK & WORKING HARD?? I don't know what game you were watching Ed, the lads heart rate barely passed 75 all game. If the delivery is so poor why is it we're having so many attempts on goal? The last minute chance should've been buried but it fell on his right foot. The chance in the first half should've ended up in the back of the net but all he did was but his foot through the ball as hard as he could at point blank range with the keeper.

He was a panic buy, its never going to work, he's not the right profile for how we play. Kenny clearly had Keegan/ Toshack, Shearer/ Sutton type partnership in mind with Carroll/ Suarez but he's got it wrong.

Ozone {Ed001's Note - give it a rest, you clearly didn't even bother to watch what he did. Did you even watch the match? When Gerrard came on and was caught upfield, who was filling in the space left in midfield? Oh yes, Andy Carroll had raced back 40 yards to fill the gap while Stevie walked back, but I am sure you were far too busy whining about him not beating 9 men before slotting home to notice what he actually did do. It is no wonder the players all look bereft of confidence, they are getting no support from the crowd, just groans and moans.}


That's the first time I've seen you mention the crowd Ed01...hard to admit isn't it?

With all this negativity lately, I'm completely exhausted to be fair(fair play Eds!). The lads are playing some very nice stuff this season, Defense reminds me of the Hyypia rein(don't get me started on Enrique = BEST LB in the League, bar none..) and we have the King on his throne.

Regarding the 'crowd' issue = It's a simple case of time. In 'time' the 12th man will return, just like Kenny did. But till then. we'll have to be proud of our away day men & women = Incredible. The goals will come .. How you ask? Simple really, Kenny will 'finally' get to play some 5-a-side with the lads and show them how its done! Lee YNWA


I agree 100% with Ed001
A lot of our fans need to get off Carroll's back, he works hard for the team. Our crossing has been pretty poor this season he needs better and more consistent crosses into the box, we just lumped the ball up to him and expect him to win everthing that comes his way. He needs confidence, and we the fans aren't helping, everytime he misses a chance the we get on his back.

TheBa300


 

 

27 Dec 2011 00:02:16
Give him a break, I think he actually played well today, worked hard and was unlucky not to score.

No wonder his confidence is low when there are people like you whinging about the poor lad all the time. Imagine what he'd think of us Liverpool fans if he came on this site and got put off by the likes of you.

He is a good player with a lot of potential, he needs proper crosses and balls which he can run onto and put in the back of the net.

maka YNWA JFT96

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The poor lad? £150k loyalty bonus on top of wages. Have a word with yourself. Potential? What potential, you tell me. If he posseses so much potential then in no doubt there'll be a host of suitors waiting in the wings to take him off our hands in January!! We wouldn't be able to give him away lad.

Proper crosses, he gets plenty he just doesn't know how to lose his man and fashion his own space as he has no turn of pace. The ball fell at his feet twic today 3 yards from the goal line and he missed them both but I suppose the keeper has a blinder again did he.

Ozone


Ozone, leave the site and then go and support someone else. Maybe we should start to get behind every player, if we have a second half of the season like last year all will be good.

We have always been better in the second half of the season historically, i remember when the king was in charge before and Atkinson was in charge of Man U, we were 10 points behind and ended up losing 1 game from Jan 1st til may. its not the same league but keep the faith, we are Liverpool Football Club and we will always back every player in Red


Sweetcorn


Its not a case of give him a break we have got nothing against him. hopefully 1 day he will live up 2 expectations and become that 10 million pound striker we no he can become. all where saying is there not worth half what we paid some1 has got be responsible 4 this rubbish. and its shouldnt be us cos every person i no could of said what i no. i get fustrated when people say prem experience. carrol= 6 months. hendo= 12 months most of that sub or subbed. adam=6 lucky months 4 average ones the man cant run end of. i just cannot justifie this rubbish.


Another go and support etc,them comments should be banned.Its a forumn ffs.Everyone ultimately wants the best for LFC.(bar Disney and few other infiltrators lol)


 

 

26 Dec 2011 23:59:39
Why is every bloody person slating downing. Carroll. Adam and hendo because they wernt able to come to a new club with expectations way higher than any club theyv played at before. It was only 2 or 3 years ago every Liverpool fan was saying even worse thing about Lucas and look at him now. He's been our best player for the last year or so. I don't know about every one else but I'm really optimistic about the the next few years. We've been playing really good football with players not performing. just wait till they find there form. Class is permanent but form comes and goes and I believe most of the players we have are top class.


 

 

26 Dec 2011 23:48:28
Ed's and anyone else just having a discussion about liverpool and lack of goals(by the way I feel we play some of the best football in the league up until the finish lol).
So are arguement was who the best ever striker in the premierleague has been?mine would be shearer or bergkamp yours?
Ynwa
Tommo
{Ed001's Note - there can only be one for me - Robbie Fowler, he could do things no one else could do.}


Most fellow pro' strikers hold Fowler in the highest regard - he was Brilliant, brilliant bloody brilliant!

dd


Shearer, Henry, Fowler, Van Nistlerooy (in order)


The one and only GOD!
Scouse Pride


Henry is very "Handy"


 

 

26 Dec 2011 23:46:45
Hi to all, great site totally addictive but please get rid of these m*n un**ed adverts, and please give KK time, I have watched the reds since the 70's and although I am not totally sold on him as a manager I would love to see him put us back on our perch. Keep the Faith and best wishes to us all for the new year a couple of cups and top four please


 

 

26 Dec 2011 23:41:48
From the posts on here I see Andy Carroll is to blame for todays 2 dropped points.
I thought he actually done alright today. He worked hard, Chased back and was unlucky not get on the score sheet. With AC on the pitch Suarez had much more space to work in. I think there is alot more to come from Carroll, but lets give him a chance to give us more.
There is alot of talk about who to bring in and what we've already spent on players, but unfortunately it isn't always that simple. Man city drew with WBA today and their bench cost more than our team.
I think we all agree we need a Right winger and another striker, but it is nowhere near as bad as the majority of posts are suggesting. KK and SC have got us playing good football again, and I don't think its gonna take too much tweaking in Jan for us to kick on in the 2nd half of the season and start climbing the table.

Tommy Walsh


 

 

26 Dec 2011 23:37:35
look listen all these idiots saying get kk out. Are clearaly not educatid,on football propaly. All real footy fans know its a building procces.

luck will change
. the lines man and the ref will start getting correct descision for us.

.WOODWORK how many times have we hit it is 17,16 not sure.

.4 pens missed

. luis suarez. ie evras word agaisnt suarezs word

. some serious sitters missed

.opponents gk keepers are playing blinders
( A Begovic.de gea.j ruddy.vorm.hart.al habsi. m bunn) all had BLINDERS

on the bright side.

. Luck will change (law of aveerages)
. stevie is back
. last season we finished 6 on 58 points. This season out of 18 games we have 31 points as long as we hit 60 points we get over 58 we have improved.

. defence is the best in league enough said.

.henderson is growing into the club. he had a shaky start,like lucas but he will come good.He was very good today.

.downing will grow into club
.adam will grow into club
.carroll will grow into club


.new players

. january is around the corner.And i think we will sign a poacher ie hopefully someone like. bent.padolski.solado. a good goal scorer thats all we need maybee a another wide man.

Damien Comolli is a top scout.In his arsenal days he scouted kolo toure there and clichy.

in his tottenham days he scouted them bale. Kevin-Prince Boateng. Adel Taarabt.Luka Modrić.Dimitar Berbatov. i think he will find some players.

a few youngsters may break through ie Danny Wilson,Suso,Raheem Sterling,Jonjo Shelvey,Martin Kelly,Conor Coady,Jon Flanagan,Jack Robinson,Sebastián Coates,Jordon Ibe,Krisztián Adorján,Adam Morgan.

look i have spent a good 20 mins on this read it and you cant deny things are rally bright

oh yeah we have had 330 shots so far and only 21 goals scored.that equals every 15.7 shots we have we score 1 when carroll cums good or we get a fox in the box we are laughing


We miss sitters because we can't put them away, fair enough 2 or 3 games we miss, but it's been a hell of a lot more, fact is we are a 6th or 7th team and we right where we should be.


You say its down to luck I say its down to averageness. Average players, average manager (in terms of money spent and inability to inspire wins against the lesser teams)

Best defence in league? you must have started counting positions 5th to 20th as "the league"?


 

 

 
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